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The Preacher
11-11-15, 09:41
Can we please refrain from that shit brothers? It's not cool on multiple levels. One being that if LEO is reading this, you are casually providing them with valuable drug use intel on people who already may have major legal issues. Further incriminating them. We all know that drugs are a part of the game. If you feel the need to share some specific drug use intel here, make an announcement, then offer the info privately to those who request it. No productive reason to put it on blast. The same way most of us offer additional details on the providers. If names + drug use are to be tossed around, pm's might be the more confidential route. Just my 2 cents.
The Preacher
11-11-15, 09:44
Does anybody know what the hell happened to Poni? Man, I miss reading his journals! LOL.
YoungRestless
11-11-15, 10:31
I'm still trying to figure out what "hell to the naw" means, LOL.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdKI1wj-JpI
Perhaps this will provide some insight! A little hilarious!
JackStamina
11-11-15, 10:43
if ya don't like the posts, ask me and I will show you how to use the 'ignore function!Man, you make a post asking people what about your posts we find annoying, and when we respond, you tell us to get fucked and ignore your posts. LOL. Dude, you are fucking psycho. We can all read your post. We all understand what you are saying. We just don't give a fuck about you. This isn't some tight knit group of brothers for fucks sake, or a social back slapping club. You've totally lost perspective. The other guy said it the best, and most succinctly of anyone here;.
"You've had more issues with providers since July than I've had in years of mongering. You've even had issues here on the forum, because you're the resident fucking drama queen. You are a self-righteous douchebag that feels the need to lecture mongers on how to monger, and providers on how to provide. You freak out over things that most of us understand are part of the game. Yet you expect us to have an ounce of sympathy for you".
The worst part of this, is you are one of those douchebags that HAS to be right, and HAS to feel like you win every discussion. It's very evident in your argumentative writing stye. SO you will keep responding to each of these posts (THAT YOU FUCKING ASKED FOR) with page after page of drivel, instead of just shutting the fuck up and moving on with the business of mongering, until it gets to the point you are banned. You aren't special dude. We've all seen this episode before.
Handicapper
11-11-15, 10:46
...a simple review! LOL.
They tell me my expectations are too high because I expect not to have to drive all over the damn city to see a provider and they go comm dark on me! The pathetic part about the whole thing is, they have the same complaints (and will post them) and it's alright if they get upset about it BUT I should put on my big boy shorts and suck it up! SMDH!
One thing I've noticed about people on this board and life, in general, people love to dish it out but when the shet comes back on them, they want to make some big ado of it! They want to tell the world that they've been done wrong! If they can't take the heat, remove yourselves from the damn kitchen!You remind me of the alcoholic who quits drinking, goes to AA meetings and then sits at Denny's for hours after the meeting drinking coffee with all the other AA people talking about the good times they had when they were drinking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdKI1wj-JpI
Perhaps this will provide some insight! A little hilarious!That's the best thing you have ever posted. LOL.
Can we please refrain from that shit brothers? It's not cool on multiple levels. One being that if LEO is reading this, you are casually providing them with valuable drug use intel on people who already may have major legal issues. Further incriminating them. We all know that drugs are a part of the game. If you feel the need to share some specific drug use intel here, make an announcement, then offer the info privately to those who request it. No productive reason to put it on blast. The same way most of us offer additional details on the providers. If names + drug use are to be tossed around, pm's might be the more confidential route. Just my 2 cents.There is ZERO need to mention ANY name in regards to drug use or other personal information. We ALL do certain shit in our lives that we are not proud of. So back off the working girls that use candy or alcohol or whatever they do with there bodies. No one's business but there's!
Chris5.
You bring these problems on yourself because you talk to people like they are beneath you. You've bragged here about interrogating providers on the type of bed at their incall and other such nonsense. I've seen you mention how you threaten to leave bad reviews when you don't get your way, and I've heard that you offer positive reviews as a bargaining chip. You've advocated mongers to double-book, but ripped providers for doing it. And from what I understand you're also more inclined to go for half hours or QVs anyway. You expect the providers to treat you like gold for like $80, and not want you to hurry up and finish? Give me a break.
You've had more issues with providers since July than I've had in years of mongering. You've even had issues here on the forum, because you're the resident fucking drama queen. You are a self-righteous douchebag that feels the need to lecture mongers on how to monger, and providers on how to provide. You freak out over things that most of us understand are part of the game. Yet you expect us to have an ounce of sympathy for you when you manage to talk your way out of pussy even when you're trying to pay for it? Hilarious.
And since you chose to make it public, the issue with Missy was that she shared something with you in confidence (because she trusted you), and you chose to blast it all over the forum. That's a bullshit move. Then for a few weeks every time anyone mentioned drugs, you felt the need to chime in and bring her name into it. I just didn't understand why you chose to keep singling her out when most providers have serious habits. Hers was already well documented, so you weren't warning anyone about a damn thing.
For the record, I'm not in love with her and never have been. She's a good provider and an even better person, IMO. Circumstances have not been kind to her, so I tried to be a friend. Given that the last time I visited her, she had broken down into tears and talked about ending her life because of something posted on this forum, I thought maybe you could refrain from destroying her ability to make a living by needlessly bringing her name up again and again. You didn't give a shit and ran your mouth anyway. Because that's all you do is run your mouth.
This shit is exactly how you bring problems on yourself. That is why nobody gives a shit about bad things happening to you. Not providers, not mongers on this forum. If you're leaving the hobby, fucking go already. You will not be missed. Punk *****.Please allow me to interject into your little feud. For Voltron94 you are INCORRECT sir in saying that a QV or even an HH visit should not allow you to be treated well because you're ONLY spending 80 coins so therefore the SP has the right to want to finish you off fast so you can leave. BULL FUCKING SHIT!! You are dead wrong! There is ZERO difference between a 300 coin dream and an 80 coin dream! The sex is fucking identical! No difference and no better! That SAME sp that get 300 coins will still try and treat you like shit and kick you the fuck out of there after 15 minutes! That is a fucked up MYTH that guy's think the more CASH they spend the better the service will be. WRONG! So of my BEST dreams in my life have come from cheap 20 to 40 coin girls. Some of my WORSE sessions have came from high end girls. Also and please pay attention, A PROVIDER ain't ever your fucking friend dude! There is no such thing in this game as MONGERS and provider's being friends! NEVER works out!
YoungRestless there is also NOTHING wrong with hoodrat girls dude. Nothing at ALL. A shady environment is all part of this game. Hood rats have some of the BEST pussys out there! And just because a member has low post counts means absolutely nothing. That man still has a right to be heard. You don't have to agree with him but he has the right to his opinion. And in regards to bad reviews absolutely post them!! I honestly care more about the BAD reviews than the GOOD reviews! If a skank gets out of line then absolutely post a bad review. I do NOT agree with posting private info on anyone's personal habits. That if true if you did it was 100 percent WRONG! No one is perfect. Now the two of you can go out to a strip club and have a beer TOGETHER! LOL.
Chris5.
The Preacher
11-11-15, 12:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdKI1wj-JpI
Perhaps this will provide some insight! A little hilarious!Hilarious!
YoungRestless
11-11-15, 14:33
You remind me of the alcoholic who quits drinking, goes to AA meetings and then sits at Denny's for hours after the meeting drinking coffee with all the other AA people talking about the good times they had when they were drinking.
...kiss asses who basically follows the crowd and really don't have your own mind you little weasel! LOL.
41 posts! Now that's cute! LOL and a few of them are to me!
YoungRestless
11-11-15, 14:34
Hilarious!
...would like that one! LOL.
Handicapper
11-11-15, 17:18
...kiss asses who basically follows the crowd and really don't have your own mind you little weasel! LOL.
41 posts! Now that's cute! LOL and a few of them are to me!Dude, you announce you're quitting the hobby at 2:35 yesterday afternoon. Then you post 15 times, some 5-6 paragraphs long until 3:00 the next morning. Then you start posting again before 8:30 in the morning. I'd suggest you find a new hobby to occupy your time. Like getting some sleep.
Dude, you announce you're quitting the hobby at 2:35 yesterday afternoon. Then you post 15 times, some 5-6 paragraphs long until 3:00 the next morning. Then you start posting again before 8:30 in the morning. I'd suggest you find a new hobby to occupy your time. Like getting some sleep.Yeah. I like reading. Up to a point. And then one starts to wonder about hobbies that some mongers may be sharing with some of the providers that themonger had been bitching about.
Dude, you announce you're quitting the hobby at 2:35 yesterday afternoon. Then you post 15 times, some 5-6 paragraphs long until 3:00 the next morning. Then you start posting again before 8:30 in the morning. I'd suggest you find a new hobby to occupy your time. Like getting some sleep.A lot of these social media internet sites (if that's what you want to call this stuff) have people that actually work for the website. They will post frequently and often to keep actual members engaged. Just like the Ashley Madison site that had fake profiles. Many dating sites have fake accounts as well. YoungRestless could be one of those people. Jaxtantricman is like that. He is constantly posting about this girl and this girl as if having sex with hookers is his full time job. Jaxtantricman is now HobbyGuyJax or something like that.
Hilarious!Now that is funny as heck thanks.
Typically whenever I participate in a discussion, I am very respectful and tactful- go back and see who started the shit since you are all over my posts- damn, someone should be posting their experiences rather than investigating me; that sounds like a little biatch! When you see me tear someone a new one, it is because they came at me in the wrong way! If ya don't want to get your azz tore up then approach me respectfully! As far as interrogating providers (you little sissy) about beds and such, if having a session on the floor or on a damn deflated air mattress suits your fancy, then go for it! If I am paying my money I have every right to ensure an environment that is conducive to a comfortable session. You seem to be the type who is use to seeing hoodrats that provide shitty environments and you have no standard little boy! And wannabe philosopher! I also have a right to know if others will be in the room hiding- anything wrong with that?! I guess everyone should be like you huh! You sound like the resident punk!
Lie lie lie regarding threatening bad reviews just to get my way! You don't even know me you silly azz thing! If I tell a provider I will write a bad review on her, it is only after they have done me wrong like robbed me; rushed me, or some other shit that is unbecoming of a provider, not because I can't get my way! Total garbage! Is there something wrong with warning guys about bad experiences so that they can make a well informed decision about seeing someone? Silly! As far as telling a lady I'd write a good review if they do right by me, I don't see an issue with this stupid. I feel if the session warranted a good review, then I will write a good one in order to help their biz; but only if the session is good and I don't ask for anything unreasonable in any session, EVER! Dummy! I tell them about me writing a bad review so they don't think they are going to get away with providing shitty services!
You say I have told guys to double book; sure I do because when you show up at a call and the girl either don't answer (which is frequent) or has you waiting 30 minutes to an hour, are you one of those dumb azzes who sits in the parking lot and wait or do you just go on to the next provider who's available! I think the former! That's how dumb you are! Waiting in a parking lot for an unreasonable amount of time for pussy- pussy! I don't see the issue with this. If ya schedule with one provider and drive 30 minutes across town and she does not answer and you have no back up, then what?! Typically, I don't even schedule with the second provider but I might call or text to at least see if they are avail in that area! Anything wrong with that resident biatch!
When I schedule for any amount of time (be it, 15 or 30 minutes), I expect that amount of time. Nothing more; nothing less. Unless you are there to observe this, then you are just surmising what I do in a session. Most of these girls, if you request a 30 minutes session want you finished in 5 minutes! I have seen it myself and I have seen guys posts reviews about it (JaxQT just posted a similar review about time and so did Smokie)! I don't expect to be treated like gold, but I do expect to be treated fairly and given my allotted time! I don't even ask for anything all freaky like BBFS and such; not even BBBJs if they're uncomfortable with it. I expect a decent session which is a reasonable request! Like I said, you really don't know me do ya! What a silly azz!
The reason you see me having issues is because I take the time to post them which is more than I can say about the non-contributors and lurkers like yourself who only tries to offer their philosophical views instead of real actual reviews! Get some legitimate reviews and stop sitting on the damn sidelines punk!
I expect nothing unreasonable or different than anybody else on this forum. Most of the issues I have are similar to what anyone else experiences! If drama exist on this forum, I am not the one to start it but if you approach me the wrong way, I will roar like a lion and tear your azz up and that's a promise, not from AllState, but from little ole me! If I have something of value to offer, I will do that and have; the least of what I can say of your miniscule posts! I also don't expect your sympathy either! Since you have been PMSing about me so long, why haven't you placed me on your "IGNORE LIST!" It's easy to do ya know! That way, you don't ever have to read my posts again! How's that butt-hole! Use the ignore function or are you too illiterate to figure it out!Condescension? Check. You might be the only person on these forums that care about post count, by the way.
Heavily questioning providers? Check. When you ask to many questions, providers start to think you're a cop, genius. Research providers, and walk away if an incall is too sketchy.
Threatening a bad review when you don't get your way? Check. You didn't get the visit out of Ashley you wanted, and told her you would negatively review her when she wouldn't respond. You said so yourself.
Dangling a positive review as a bargaining chip? Check. Not only is it insulting (as if good providers aren't already trying to show you a good time), but it's an implied threat of a bad review if they don't keep you happy.
Advocating double booking for clients, but against it for providers? Check. When I arrive, they get 15 minutes to respond or I move on. If I book someone else afterward, that's the appointment I honor. No need to double up.
Short visits only? Check. "Thirty minutes or less" is fine for delivering pizzas, not dick. Providers expect you to get in, bust, and GTFO, because you're not paying much money. There's no such thing as an unrushed QV.
More negative experiences since July than I've had in over 6 years? Check. Mostly before you even get into the room. You get properly shut down more often than Windows, dude.
I relocated months ago, chief. I've posted reviews on seven different providers in my current town since then. To be honest, I didn't use the forums here because I didn't come here until a certain provider told me about it.
And as to why I don't use the ignore list on you? Because it's been kind of hilarious watching karma bite you in the ass, and now that you're leaving the hobby I won't have to ignore you.
Come on partner, admit it! You are in love with a hooker. The nerve of you to PM me telling me what I should posts! That is quite presumptuous on your part! I don't tell you who to post on and what the contents of that posts should be so leave me the fruck alone about mine; little girl! Now you're sounding like a man in love- correction, a biatch in love! Damn, that is some dysfunctional shet pete! Maybe you are doing the drugs with her! Is that why this upsets you? Are you a user!
Tried to be a friend to her! I know you have issues now! They don't want your friendship, they want your money so they can go buy drugs! You see, you have got it twisted little ballerina! If someone wants to end their life because of what is posted on here, perhaps they should stop reading the posts or clean up their drug act! What people say on here about girls using drugs is no different than what is said of her. Don't make her out to be the victim or the special one here! Man! You really do have it bad don't you! Can't you go find a normal gal! Please don't marry a woman who is hooked on this shet; you will live to regret it!
STOP acting like you care about her anyway. If you cared that much about her, you would not contribute to her demise! Yes, contributing money to a known heroin user is contributing to her demise; yet, you love her so much right! Hypocrite! You don't care for her, you're helping her get closer and closer to her death. READ the literature on heroin users! They are usually dead within 5 years, I believe! Stop helping her kill herself! If I wanted to hurt her, as you say, I have a video of her doing heroin and I never made it public! Some nasty shet, BTW!Sorry to burst your bubble, but repeating this over and over again doesn't make it true. We've swapped texts on a handful of occasions over the course of several months. Mostly memes and simple "how have you been" stuff. Although you're clearly onto me, I wished her a happy birthday, and then when I heard about her vacation I told her to "stay strong and hang in there". If that's a love affair, she would be the most low maintenance woman on the planet.
Go figure that when a woman broke down crying and started talking about wanting to die, I talked with her like a real person. I know it's a foreign concept to you, but these are people, not just a collection of rented holes. We're still friends, just like she is friendly with lots of her clients. She confided in me in a low moment, and I didn't turn around and use that to try and hurt her business. Unlike you, who at least had the initial instinct to use discretion before you decided that didn't garner enough attention and put her on blast. Yet you act like it's really big of you to not post a video of a woman shooting up so she can stomach the concept of helping your fat ass get your rocks off.
So drama queen? Check. The fact that you brought this up from a 4-month old private conversation in some attempt to shame or embarrass me confirms that. Yeah, I am friendly with some providers. I care about them enough as human beings that I don't want to see someone destroy their livelihood and perhaps drive them to do something out of desperation. How humiliating to have that pointed out, right?
And before you try to turn any of this "contributing to her demise" crap on me, I knew about her habit before you did. You've given her money more recently than I have, too. You didn't do any of this shit for some noble purpose like helping her either. Unlike you, I actually have experience with people that have struggled with addiction. I encouraged her to find a way to get away from the drugs, make the money she needs, and get back out of the business. She's a grown woman, and she's going to do what she feels is necessary. Recent word is that she's sober after her vacation, with regular tests to study for, and planning an exit in the near future. I hope it's true, because she's a sweet girl that deserves better for herself and her kid.
Not only will I run my mouth but I can back it up all day and every day and Sunday too and there is nothing you can do about that you spineless azz wimp! No one gives a damn about me? Really; well please be aware that these providers, likewise, don't give a damn about you either! Only about your money! Neither do these guys care about ya dumb azz either because no one knows and no one cares who you are! And for the record, frankly my dear heart, I don't give a damn about who likes me or not. You should have known that a long time ago-if you know me like you think you do!
Lastly, if ya come after me on this forum, I will blast you to pieces! I assure you, no punk here but we know who the punk is, don't we! Hilarious!See, here's where you're the one that has it backwards. You're the one coming on here rage posting about getting shut down by escorts so often that you want to leave the hobby. You're the one complaining about other mongers mocking you for whining about the lack of professionalism and customer service from Backpage escorts, for fuck's sake. You don't have any respect for providers. You barely see them as people. And that comes through when you interact with them. That's why you're having trouble finding a woman who will fuck you for money without wanting it to be over with as quickly as possible.
Me, I don't have these problems. I get along fine with posters on these forums. Not that I really care one way or other, because I'm just here to read reviews and talk about providers I enjoy. I've had a good rapport with almost every provider I've ever seen. I book hour sessions. I tip when warranted. I write reviews, and don't make a big deal about it to them. I understand that what these ladies provide is worth more to me than the money I am giving them, and so I treat them with genuine appreciation and respect. Yknow, just like real people. It's crazy, but they actually seem to like that. And I get treated well in return. In fact, the agency in my current town gives me priority now, because as the lady who runs the place said "the girls speak highly of you, and we appreciate good clients".
Oh, and anytime you're ready to quit playing internet tough guy, that'd be a smart move on your part. There is no scenario in which you would ever intimidate me, especially not while you're hiding behind a keyboard.
Man, you make a post asking people what about your posts we find annoying, and when we respond, you tell us to get fucked and ignore your posts. LOL. Dude, you are fucking psycho. We can all read your post. We all understand what you are saying. We just don't give a fuck about you. This isn't some tight knit group of brothers for fucks sake, or a social back slapping club. You've totally lost perspective. The other guy said it the best, and most succinctly of anyone here;.
"You've had more issues with providers since July than I've had in years of mongering. You've even had issues here on the forum, because you're the resident fucking drama queen. You are a self-righteous douchebag that feels the need to lecture mongers on how to monger, and providers on how to provide. You freak out over things that most of us understand are part of the game. Yet you expect us to have an ounce of sympathy for you".
The worst part of this, is you are one of those douchebags that HAS to be right, and HAS to feel like you win every discussion. It's very evident in your argumentative writing stye. SO you will keep responding to each of these posts (THAT YOU FUCKING ASKED FOR) with page after page of drivel, instead of just shutting the fuck up and moving on with the business of mongering, until it gets to the point you are banned. You aren't special dude. We've all seen this episode before.Restless not only has lost credibility but the respect of the entire monger community on this site! Nobody really cares what he posts because it's pointless to give credence to anything he says. Does anyone find it interesting that not a single person has come to his defence? That pretty much says it all. One thing I've noticed from reading other cities postings is that there seems to be one in every local, it's the loser with a megaphone syndrome, begging to be heard. JD.
RegularMem1
11-11-15, 22:26
Please allow me to interject into your little feud. For Voltron94 you are INCORRECT sir in saying that a QV or even an HH visit should not allow you to be treated well because you're ONLY spending 80 coins so therefore the SP has the right to want to finish you off fast so you can leave. BULL FUCKING SHIT!! You are dead wrong! There is ZERO difference between a 300 coin dream and an 80 coin dream! The sex is fucking identical! No difference and no better! That SAME sp that get 300 coins will still try and treat you like shit and kick you the fuck out of there after 15 minutes! That is a fucked up MYTH that guy's think the more CASH they spend the better the service will be. WRONG! So of my BEST dreams in my life have come from cheap 20 to 40 coin girls. Some of my WORSE sessions have came from high end girls. Also and please pay attention, A PROVIDER ain't ever your fucking friend dude! There is no such thing in this game as MONGERS and provider's being friends! NEVER works out!
YoungRestless there is also NOTHING wrong with hoodrat girls dude. Nothing at ALL. A shady environment is all part of this game. Hood rats have some of the BEST pussys out there! And just because a member has low post counts means absolutely nothing. That man still has a right to be heard. You don't have to agree with him but he has the right to his opinion. And in regards to bad reviews absolutely post them!! I honestly care more about the BAD reviews than the GOOD reviews! If a skank gets out of line then absolutely post a bad review. I do NOT agree with posting private info on anyone's personal habits. That if true if you did it was 100 percent WRONG! No one is perfect. Now the two of you can go out to a strip club and have a beer TOGETHER! LOL.
Chris5.I have had numerous 250 and 300 (coin) visits in FL and other states and countries; I have NEVER had one where I was rushed or disappointed. In fact several lasted well beyond the time I paid for. I prefer those over the QV visits. Possibly my attitude and / or demeanor is different than yours? YMMV.
Please allow me to interject into your little feud. For Voltron94 you are INCORRECT sir in saying that a QV or even an HH visit should not allow you to be treated well because you're ONLY spending 80 coins so therefore the SP has the right to want to finish you off fast so you can leave. BULL FUCKING SHIT!! You are dead wrong! There is ZERO difference between a 300 coin dream and an 80 coin dream! The sex is fucking identical! No difference and no better! That SAME sp that get 300 coins will still try and treat you like shit and kick you the fuck out of there after 15 minutes! That is a fucked up MYTH that guy's think the more CASH they spend the better the service will be. WRONG! So of my BEST dreams in my life have come from cheap 20 to 40 coin girls. Some of my WORSE sessions have came from high end girls. Also and please pay attention, A PROVIDER ain't ever your fucking friend dude! There is no such thing in this game as MONGERS and provider's being friends! NEVER works out!
Three points here:
1) The point being made was that at some stage, providers will decide that a demanding client just isn't worth the headache. The less money it's worth to them, the less bullshit they will put up with.
2) I didn't say anything about different provider prices. Of course there are good and bad providers across the price spectrum. And while I agree that you should be treated well on any session length, it's naïve to expect that providers aren't looking to finish you before you hit the time limit. Yeah, if she's rushing you 5 minutes into the session, report it and don't repeat. But if it's at 25, consider it even for all those times you went 35 and she didn't bat an eyelash.
3) Being friends with a sex worker is not difficult, especially if you're real with them from the start about the fact that you understand the hustle. I've got multiple friends who do (or have done) sex work. We're cool and they don't try to take advantage. I'm not trying to get anything out of them, and they don't try to get anything from me. If they cross that line, they get cut off. I'm no sucker.
YoungRestless
11-12-15, 02:57
Three points here:
1) The point being made was that at some stage, providers will decide that a demanding client just isn't worth the headache. The less money it's worth to them, the less bullshit they will put up with.
2) I didn't say anything about different provider prices. Of course there are good and bad providers across the price spectrum. And while I agree that you should be treated well on any session length, it's nave to expect that providers aren't looking to finish you before you hit the time limit. Yeah, if she's rushing you 5 minutes into the session, report it and don't repeat. But if it's at 25, consider it even for all those times you went 35 and she didn't bat an eyelash.
3) Being friends with a sex worker is not difficult, especially if you're real with them from the start about the fact that you understand the hustle. I've got multiple friends who do (or have done) sex work. We're cool and they don't try to take advantage. I'm not trying to get anything out of them, and they don't try to get anything from me. If they cross that line, they get cut off. I'm no sucker.
It's ironic that as I was driving home tonight, I had to remind myself that the best service I have ever had out of a provider is when I donated 60 to her account! The girl almost blew my mind and I don't say that often! I have donated more than 3 times and nearly 4 times more and the service was no where near the 60. Average at best, IMHO!
One of the biggest reasons these girls treat guys in this so-called hobby like shet is because it is what you allow them to do. You have no expectations or standards whatsoever! Now, let's see what is unreasonable about my request/standards:
1. I like a clean environment (unreasonable?)
2. I don't want you to remind me 5 minutes into a 15 minutes session that my time is almost up (unreasonable?)
3. I don't want to drive all the way across town and you stop answering your damn phone or you expect me to wait 30 minutes to an hour (unreasonable?)
4. I don't like doing my biz on floors, deflated air mattresses, or raggedy azz couches that goes down to the metal springs (unreasonable?)
*Consider this also about the raggedy azz couch: if I weigh 250 lbs. and the girl weighs 150 lbs. , that is 400 lbs. on a raggedy azz couch which makes it very difficult to do a session on!
5. I want good hygiene (unreasonable?)
6. I don't want to wait more than 15 minutes after a session was to be started (unreasonable?) I don't have all frucking day to wait for you!
7. I want it to be the girl in the pix or at least close to it (unreasonable?)
8. I don't like when providers smoke in front of me (unreasonable?)
9. I like providers to treat me with respect as I always do the same! Just because you are giving up some p-ssy (Ms. 18 year old) does not give you a right to treat me like I'm some frucking kid! (unreasonable?)
These are things I expect out of a session and hey, if you read the majority of the ad's, most of the things I mentioned above they say they do! False advertisement? Anyway, these are my standards and you have every right to expect much less but when you are giving girls the amount of money that professionals don't even make, HELL TO THE YES, I expect better service and if you don't you're the FOOL!
I am not demanding but you're not going to give me Shetty service and expect to get paid either! When I deal with these girls, I'm very respectful and I treat them nice and don't try to take advantage of their time. In fact, most girls seem to like my company so much, they are the ones who take a lot of time before getting the session started and sometimes after the session they want to talk even longer! So ya dumb azz don't know me and don't even try to know me! You are one of these silly azzes who are giving these girls major money ($150-200) because you are apparently just plain dumb as hell! As for me, I am not going to spend my whole life saving on hookers. Because of my attitude, I have paid off major bills and have very little debt!
Let me offer you some advice (I know you hate when I give it but will give it anyway) - don't spend all your money on PUSSY! It's not worth it! Spend your money on something that you will see and enjoy 10,20, 30 years from here! PUSSY ain't worth what you're paying fool!
How do you know the length of time I spend in a session? Were you there? You certainly seem to want to know the intimate details of a guy's session huh?! That's some sick shet man! Mind your own frucking biz you damn freak! Most of the time, I am the one trying to get in and out of a session! You know why? Because I don't find that being in the company of an escort to be that stimulating! I want to get in and out in case they have drugs in the room because I don't want to get charged with constructive possession! Anything wrong with that? You're a pretty presumptuous little weasel who thinks he knows everything! Look at your posts- most of them are about you trying to show your so-called intelligence and not much in the way of seeing providers! You are like a lurker in my opinion!
The fact that you think you can be friends with providers is got damn laughable! I have never heard such absurdity in my life; I mean, I know this is what guys try to do but you sound so sincere! What are you, 18? 10? 12? Anyone who believes they can be friends with a drug addict is delusional! How stupid! How dumb! How ignorant!
I'd like to dedicate a song a rapper used to sing years ago and it goes something like this: "Dumb- dumb-Dumb-Dumb-Dumb- dumb-Dumb-Dumb -Dumb- dumb-Dumb-Dumb-dumb (and then he yells out after so many dumbs) -STUPID! Stupid as can be! This song describes you very well! Go get a better girl pete! That is my unsolicited advice that you don't like- BUT I'm giving it to your STUPID azz any who!
Furthermore, STOP calling them a friend! You are supplying them with money so that they can buy drugs to destroy themselves! This is not a got damn friend! You are helping them to get closer and closer to their DEATH! You want to be a true friend, stop giving them money for drugs and help them get cleaned up instead of trying to get your short dick sucked!
YoungRestless
11-12-15, 03:25
Restless not only has lost credibility but the respect of the entire monger community on this site! Nobody really cares what he posts because it's pointless to give credence to anything he says. Does anyone find it interesting that not a single person has come to his defence? That pretty much says it all. One thing I've noticed from reading other cities postings is that there seems to be one in every local, it's the loser with a megaphone syndrome, begging to be heard. JD.
Just read above and Mr. Chris has! He has confirmed what I've said for years; paying more money does not equate to getting great service! Lie lie lie! Credibility! Who cares whether you accept what I have to say or not. Respect? I'm not doing anything that deserves respect when I am giving girls money to buy drugs so that they can destroy themselves! This does not deserve respect you little weasel!
By the way, I've been meaning to address some bullshet you said a while back. I didn't see your comments till well after because most of what you say is bullshet to me, like how you send hookers your pix upon request which is some dumb shet! Anyway, it has to do with you saying that the folks caught up in the sting in Tampa area just showed up and they got arrested. I knew it was total bullshet and when I asked you about your source, I was thinking you'd give me something of substance but ya gave me some lame azz information about look at the newspaper! LOL- I knew it was bullshet then because I had already checked out that source! I was thinking you'd say you heard it from someone who is at least close to the situation but again, you provided some bullshet, "look at the newspaper!" How frucking ignorant and dumb! Now there's your credence! LOL.
BTW, I don't care if you hear me or not; in fact, not really even thinking about ya! You are just not that important! Silly azz loser!
Oh! And just because people don't come out publicly to defends me (which I can stand on my own) does not mean I don't get PMs telling me to leave you azz-holes alone because it's not worth it! Ha! Some people just don't want to be unnecessarily targeted by a bunch of azz-wipes! But I love a good fight mutt! So go ahead and continue to fruck your azzholes you love so much (something nasty about that SHIT- pun intended!) and leave me the fruck alone and if I have no credence, put me on ignore!
YoungRestless
11-12-15, 03:37
I have had numerous 250 and 300 (coin) visits in FL and other states and countries; I have NEVER had one where I was rushed or disappointed. In fact several lasted well beyond the time I paid for. I prefer those over the QV visits. Possibly my attitude and / or demeanor is different than yours? YMMV.
Where they gave a girl a nice piece of change for an hour and only got, maybe, 20 minutes. Some of these girls have the attitude of once you bust, you got to go. If you bust 10 minutes into the session, you got to go! They don't want to sit there and snuggle with you; they want your money and you out of there. Read over in the BP thread, a client just posted how he originally wanted to do a half hour and when he arrived and saw how attractive the girl was, he upgraded immediately to an hour. He said that after a very short session (not even close to an hour's time), she put some distance between him and her, essentially letting him know that there won't be any seconds here and she showed her disinterest. This happens all too often from my observations of reading the reviews.
YoungRestless
11-12-15, 03:50
Condescension? Check. You might be the only person on these forums that care about post count, by the way.
Heavily questioning providers? Check. When you ask to many questions, providers start to think you're a cop, genius. Research providers, and walk away if an incall is too sketchy.
Threatening a bad review when you don't get your way? Check. You didn't get the visit out of Ashley you wanted, and told her you would negatively review her when she wouldn't respond. You said so yourself.
Dangling a positive review as a bargaining chip? Check. Not only is it insulting (as if good providers aren't already trying to show you a good time), but it's an implied threat of a bad review if they don't keep you happy.
Advocating double booking for clients, but against it for providers? Check. When I arrive, they get 15 minutes to respond or I move on. If I book someone else afterward, that's the appointment I honor. No need to double up.
Short visits only? Check. "Thirty minutes or less" is fine for delivering pizzas, not dick. Providers expect you to get in, bust, and GTFO, because you're not paying much money. There's no such thing as an unrushed QV.
More negative experiences since July than I've had in over 6 years? Check. Mostly before you even get into the room. You get properly shut down more often than Windows, dude.
I relocated months ago, chief. I've posted reviews on seven different providers in my current town since then. To be honest, I didn't use the forums here because I didn't come here until a certain provider told me about it.
And as to why I don't use the ignore list on you? Because it's been kind of hilarious watching karma bite you in the ass, and now that you're leaving the hobby I won't have to ignore you.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but repeating this over and over again doesn't make it true. We've swapped texts on a handful of occasions over the course of several months. Mostly memes and simple "how have you been" stuff. Although you're clearly onto me, I wished her a happy birthday, and then when I heard about her vacation I told her to "stay strong and hang in there". If that's a love affair, she would be the most low maintenance woman on the planet.
Go figure that when a woman broke down crying and started talking about wanting to die, I talked with her like a real person. I know it's a foreign concept to you, but these are people, not just a collection of rented holes. We're still friends, just like she is friendly with lots of her clients. She confided in me in a low moment, and I didn't turn around and use that to try and hurt her business. Unlike you, who at least had the initial instinct to use discretion before you decided that didn't garner enough attention and put her on blast. Yet you act like it's really big of you to not post a video of a woman shooting up so she can stomach the concept of helping your fat ass get your rocks off.
So drama queen? Check. The fact that you brought this up from a 4-month old private conversation in some attempt to shame or embarrass me confirms that. Yeah, I am friendly with some providers. I care about them enough as human beings that I don't want to see someone destroy their livelihood and perhaps drive them to do something out of desperation. How humiliating to have that pointed out, right?
And before you try to turn any of this "contributing to her demise" crap on me, I knew about her habit before you did. You've given her money more recently than I have, too. You didn't do any of this shit for some noble purpose like helping her either. Unlike you, I actually have experience with people that have struggled with addiction. I encouraged her to find a way to get away from the drugs, make the money she needs, and get back out of the business. She's a grown woman, and she's going to do what she feels is necessary. Recent word is that she's sober after her vacation, with regular tests to study for, and planning an exit in the near future. I hope it's true, because she's a sweet girl that deserves better for herself and her kid.
See, here's where you're the one that has it backwards. You're the one coming on here rage posting about getting shut down by escorts so often that you want to leave the hobby. You're the one complaining about other mongers mocking you for whining about the lack of professionalism and customer service from Backpage escorts, for fuck's sake. You don't have any respect for providers. You barely see them as people. And that comes through when you interact with them. That's why you're having trouble finding a woman who will fuck you for money without wanting it to be over with as quickly as possible.
Me, I don't have these problems. I get along fine with posters on these forums. Not that I really care one way or other, because I'm just here to read reviews and talk about providers I enjoy. I've had a good rapport with almost every provider I've ever seen. I book hour sessions. I tip when warranted. I write reviews, and don't make a big deal about it to them. I understand that what these ladies provide is worth more to me than the money I am giving them, and so I treat them with genuine appreciation and respect. Yknow, just like real people. It's crazy, but they actually seem to like that. And I get treated well in return. In fact, the agency in my current town gives me priority now, because as the lady who runs the place said "the girls speak highly of you, and we appreciate good clients".
Oh, and anytime you're ready to quit playing internet tough guy, that'd be a smart move on your part. There is no scenario in which you would ever intimidate me, especially not while you're hiding behind a keyboard.
Thanks for the effort though but damn, you're too dense in the brain to even try to make understand something so simple. Just a quick example, I said I've told a girl that I will write a bad review because they made me drive all the frucking way to their location and stopped answering their phones. This has nothing to do with me not getting my way (douchebag), this has to do with wasting my time, money, and gas! Wow, you're so ignorant! So dumb! I don't have the energy for such ignorance any longer; not with you at least! Man, you are really in love with these escorts! So sad boss but hey, it's your life! Pathetic!
Btw, shouldn't you be out there MONGERING as you say!? Why continue to waste time with someone that means nothing to you! lol
YoungRestless
11-12-15, 03:55
A lot of these social media internet sites (if that's what you want to call this stuff) have people that actually work for the website. They will post frequently and often to keep actual members engaged. Just like the Ashley Madison site that had fake profiles. Many dating sites have fake accounts as well. YoungRestless could be one of those people. Jaxtantricman is like that. He is constantly posting about this girl and this girl as if having sex with hookers is his full time job. Jaxtantricman is now HobbyGuyJax or something like that.That is some frucked up insight! LOL.
YoungRestless
11-12-15, 03:58
That's the best thing you have ever posted. LOL.I don't find too many interesting posts either; mostly bullshet and asking too many questions about who seen this one or that one- like Mouthhunter! Not much in the way of reviews though! LOL.
YoungRestless
11-12-15, 04:04
Time to let you entertain yourselves! Especially you Voltran94 or whatever. Love this Woodshed shet! I tore many new azz holes through this medium! Anyway, let me go so that you mongers can get back to your mongering! LOL; damn, for people to pay me so much attention, you have taken your eyes off of the true purpose of why you're here! I guess I SHOULD feel a little special to get so much attention! Shet! Well, you all can have the last word on this one and if it makes you feel better, YOU WON (nothing)! LOL.
Oh, before I go; I have to post this for you Jax Mutt (Jaxdog) because you said I had no supporters and for you Voltran94 because you are full of shet; Someone brought this to my attention and I must say, the gentleman is sharp as heck!
"Go figure that when a woman broke down crying and started talking about wanting to die, I talked with her like a real person.She confided in me in a low moment, and I didn't turn around and use that to try and hurt her business.
"Confided" in him about thoughts of suicide and what does he do with the information? He puts it on blast in the woodshed for the world to see. And all for a totally selfish reason, to try and win points in an internet debate by portraying himself as a wonderful, compassionate person. FAIL
The operative word is CONFIDED! if one CONFIDES in you, you don't tell the whole got damn world about it! But I understand, pussy was trying to win some PUSSY! You so-called saved her from killing herself on the one hand by lending a shoulder BUT yet, you continue to help her in her DRUG ADDICTION which will eventually lead to her demise! What a caring guy!
Bye y'all! This shet is too hilarious!
Time to let you entertain yourselves! Especially you Voltran94 or whatever. Love this Woodshed shet! I tore many new azz holes through this medium! Anyway, let me go so that you mongers can get back to your mongering! LOL; damn, for people to pay me so much attention, you have taken your eyes off of the true purpose of why you're here! I guess I SHOULD feel a little special to get so much attention! Shet! Well, you all can have the last word on this one and if it makes you feel better, YOU WON (nothing)! LOL.
Oh, before I go; I have to post this for you Jax Mutt (Jaxdog) because you said I had no supporters and for you Voltran94 because you are full of shet; Someone brought this to my attention and I must say, the gentleman is sharp as heck!
"Go figure that when a woman broke down crying and started talking about wanting to die, I talked with her like a real person.She confided in me in a low moment, and I didn't turn around and use that to try and hurt her business.
"Confided" in him about thoughts of suicide and what does he do with the information? He puts it on blast in the woodshed for the world to see. And all for a totally selfish reason, to try and win points in an internet debate by portraying himself as a wonderful, compassionate person. FAIL
The operative word is CONFIDED! if one CONFIDES in you, you don't tell the whole got damn world about it! But I understand, pussy was trying to win some PUSSY! You so-called saved her from killing herself on the one hand by lending a shoulder BUT yet, you continue to help her in her DRUG ADDICTION which will eventually lead to her demise! What a caring guy!
Bye y'all! This shet is too hilarious!This is real easy, jackass.
You betrayed her confidence. You used what she shared with you to hurt her business, and it wasn't out of some twisted ambition to help her. I approached you with my concerns about what you were doing, you blew them off. Then yesterday when I dared suggest that you bring problems on yourself, you betrayed my confidence by dragging this whole thing out from 4 months ago. Including making private conversations into a public discussion and mischaracterizing them. You made it necessary to point out why I was concerned about what you were doing. And it's a pretty valid reason. I said it to you in confidence at that time, and the only reason we're discussing any of it now is because YOU BROUGHT IT UP PUBLICLY in an attempt to embarrass me (and her as well). Except all it did was make you look like even more of an asshole.
I didn't "save" her the night she got upset, and never claimed I did. I tried to comfort her and mostly just listened to her. She told me plenty of things that have nothing to do with all this, so I've kept them in confidence. It certainly wasn't about trying to "win some pussy", because I only happened to be there with her for an appointment. If you had been there and watched her in that moment, I would at least like to imagine you wouldn't have fucked her over the way you did. But most likely not.
And you keep neglecting this point. That all happened on the last night I saw her in mid-July, the same night I learned about her habit. I never gave her another dime. OTOH, you read about her habit on the forum over a month later, and then still went to see her. You sat back and filmed her doing it. You gave her more money, more often, and more recently than I ever did. So I don't know how you put anything on me about "helping her demise" on my shoulders while claiming any sort of innocence for yourself.
I have had numerous 250 and 300 (coin) visits in FL and other states and countries; I have NEVER had one where I was rushed or disappointed. In fact several lasted well beyond the time I paid for. I prefer those over the QV visits. Possibly my attitude and / or demeanor is different than yours? YMMV.Your demeanor is different than mine? LOL! Go ahead and continue paying 300 or more coins. I disagree!! QV is the only way to go! I have just pulled your player card player.
Chris5.
Three points here:
1) The point being made was that at some stage, providers will decide that a demanding client just isn't worth the headache. The less money it's worth to them, the less bullshit they will put up with.
2) I didn't say anything about different provider prices. Of course there are good and bad providers across the price spectrum. And while I agree that you should be treated well on any session length, it's nave to expect that providers aren't looking to finish you before you hit the time limit. Yeah, if she's rushing you 5 minutes into the session, report it and don't repeat. But if it's at 25, consider it even for all those times you went 35 and she didn't bat an eyelash.
3) Being friends with a sex worker is not difficult, especially if you're real with them from the start about the fact that you understand the hustle. I've got multiple friends who do (or have done) sex work. We're cool and they don't try to take advantage. I'm not trying to get anything out of them, and they don't try to get anything from me. If they cross that line, they get cut off. I'm no sucker.Post number 1023 by YR says exactly how I feel about this post Voltron. I disagree with you a thousand percent dude! Say what you want about youngrestless but that brother hit it out of the fucking ballpark in his response to your post!! YR is deal correct!! And wrote a masterful post!! Dude these girls ain't your friend! Guys like voltron do this for free pussy and will stab there board brothers in the back in a heartbeat!! YR said all I was going to say. Excellent fucking POST Youngrestless!!
Chris5.
Gents,
"the ignore button of which you speak".
Where do I find it and activate it? Does it ignore all posts within a thread in which the poster is ignored or does the thread remain with just the posters comments redacted?
Its time for a test drive.
Many thanks.
J4 me.
Dirty Wild66
11-12-15, 07:33
YR, did you actually say you got bored reading someone else's post? (Voltron) And say reading another's content was bull "shet"?
Boy that is some funny "shet" right there.
Again some of your content is worthy, most is just rambling and not worth the read.
You are losing more respect by the minute.
Maybe you can post two whole pages tonight.
Where they gave a girl a nice piece of change for an hour and only got, maybe, 20 minutes. Some of these girls have the attitude of once you bust, you got to go. If you bust 10 minutes into the session, you got to go! They don't want to sit there and snuggle with you; they want your money and you out of there. Read over in the BP thread, a client just posted how he originally wanted to do a half hour and when he arrived and saw how attractive the girl was, he upgraded immediately to an hour. He said that after a very short session (not even close to an hour's time), she put some distance between him and her, essentially letting him know that there won't be any seconds here and she showed her disinterest. This happens all too often from my observations of reading the reviews.Absolutely correct! There is nothing else I need to add! Fucking snuggling!! LOL!! This is not LOVE people!!
Chris5.
I don't find too many interesting posts either; mostly bullshet and asking too many questions about who seen this one or that one...! Not much in the way of reviews though! LOL.This is the most relevant thought shared here recently.
It's ironic that as I was driving home tonight, I had to remind myself that the best service I have ever had out of a provider is when I donated 60 to her account! The girl almost blew my mind and I don't say that often! I have donated more than 3 times and nearly 4 times more and the service was no where near the 60. Average at best, IMHO!
One of the biggest reasons these girls treat guys in this so-called hobby like shet is because it is what you allow them to do. You have no expectations or standards whatsoever! Now, let's see what is unreasonable about my request/standards:
1. I like a clean environment (unreasonable?)
2. I don't want you to remind me 5 minutes into a 15 minutes session that my time is almost up (unreasonable?)
3. I don't want to drive all the way across town and you stop answering your damn phone or you expect me to wait 30 minutes to an hour (unreasonable?)
4. I don't like doing my biz on floors, deflated air mattresses, or raggedy azz couches that goes down to the metal springs (unreasonable?)
*Consider this also about the raggedy azz couch: if I weigh 250 lbs. and the girl weighs 150 lbs. , that is 400 lbs. on a raggedy azz couch which makes it very difficult to do a session on!
5. I want good hygiene (unreasonable?)
6. I don't want to wait more than 15 minutes after a session was to be started (unreasonable?) I don't have all frucking day to wait for you!
7. I want it to be the girl in the pix or at least close to it (unreasonable?)
8. I don't like when providers smoke in front of me (unreasonable?)
9. I like providers to treat me with respect as I always do the same! Just because you are giving up some p-ssy (Ms. 18 year old) does not give you a right to treat me like I'm some frucking kid! (unreasonable?)
These are things I expect out of a session and hey, if you read the majority of the ad's, most of the things I mentioned above they say they do! False advertisement? Anyway, these are my standards and you have every right to expect much less but when you are giving girls the amount of money that professionals don't even make, HELL TO THE YES, I expect better service and if you don't you're the FOOL!
I am not demanding but you're not going to give me Shetty service and expect to get paid either! When I deal with these girls, I'm very respectful and I treat them nice and don't try to take advantage of their time. In fact, most girls seem to like my company so much, they are the ones who take a lot of time before getting the session started and sometimes after the session they want to talk even longer! So ya dumb azz don't know me and don't even try to know me! You are one of these silly azzes who are giving these girls major money ($150-200) because you are apparently just plain dumb as hell! As for me, I am not going to spend my whole life saving on hookers. Because of my attitude, I have paid off major bills and have very little debt!
Let me offer you some advice (I know you hate when I give it but will give it anyway) - don't spend all your money on PUSSY! It's not worth it! Spend your money on something that you will see and enjoy 10,20, 30 years from here! PUSSY ain't worth what you're paying fool!
How do you know the length of time I spend in a session? Were you there? You certainly seem to want to know the intimate details of a guy's session huh?! That's some sick shet man! Mind your own frucking biz you damn freak! Most of the time, I am the one trying to get in and out of a session! You know why? Because I don't find that being in the company of an escort to be that stimulating! I want to get in and out in case they have drugs in the room because I don't want to get charged with constructive possession! Anything wrong with that? You're a pretty presumptuous little weasel who thinks he knows everything! Look at your posts- most of them are about you trying to show your so-called intelligence and not much in the way of seeing providers! You are like a lurker in my opinion!
The fact that you think you can be friends with providers is got damn laughable! I have never heard such absurdity in my life; I mean, I know this is what guys try to do but you sound so sincere! What are you, 18? 10? 12? Anyone who believes they can be friends with a drug addict is delusional! How stupid! How dumb! How ignorant!
I'd like to dedicate a song a rapper used to sing years ago and it goes something like this: "Dumb- dumb-Dumb-Dumb-Dumb- dumb-Dumb-Dumb -Dumb- dumb-Dumb-Dumb-dumb (and then he yells out after so many dumbs) -STUPID! Stupid as can be! This song describes you very well! Go get a better girl pete! That is my unsolicited advice that you don't like- BUT I'm giving it to your STUPID azz any who!
Furthermore, STOP calling them a friend! You are supplying them with money so that they can buy drugs to destroy themselves! This is not a got damn friend! You are helping them to get closer and closer to their DEATH! You want to be a true friend, stop giving them money for drugs and help them get cleaned up instead of trying to get your short dick sucked!Sorry Voltron but YR is kicking your ass dude! LOL! He is shredding you all over this particular debate!! His post was excellent! Period! This girls are not your friend and they don't love you. Pay them as LESS as you possibly can. And you dictate the fucking terms! Hey brother YR you are more than welcome in our Orlando brotherhood! Orlando is where I'm at. Bring your talents here to the magic city!
Chris5.
Member #6355
11-12-15, 08:55
Gents,
"the ignore button of which you speak".
Where do I find it and activate it? Does it ignore all posts within a thread in which the poster is ignored or does the thread remain with just the posters comments redacted?
Its time for a test drive.
Many thanks.
J4 me.Go to a message by the poster you'd like to ignore. Select the poster's name on the upper-left corner of the message. Select "View Profile," and then on the Profile page, select "Add to Ignore List. " I use this feature a lot as it allows you to avoid the keyboard warriors who seem to have multiple profiles set up in order to argue among their various personalities.
Just read above and Mr. Chris has! He has confirmed what I've said for years; paying more money does not equate to getting great service! Lie lie lie! Credibility! Who cares whether you accept what I have to say or not. Respect? I'm not doing anything that deserves respect when I am giving girls money to buy drugs so that they can destroy themselves! This does not deserve respect you little weasel!
By the way, I've been meaning to address some bullshet you said a while back. I didn't see your comments till well after because most of what you say is bullshet to me, like how you send hookers your pix upon request which is some dumb shet! Anyway, it has to do with you saying that the folks caught up in the sting in Tampa area just showed up and they got arrested. I knew it was total bullshet and when I asked you about your source, I was thinking you'd give me something of substance but ya gave me some lame azz information about look at the newspaper! LOL- I knew it was bullshet then because I had already checked out that source! I was thinking you'd say you heard it from someone who is at least close to the situation but again, you provided some bullshet, "look at the newspaper!" How frucking ignorant and dumb! Now there's your credence! LOL.
BTW, I don't care if you hear me or not; in fact, not really even thinking about ya! You are just not that important! Silly azz loser!
Oh! And just because people don't come out publicly to defends me (which I can stand on my own) does not mean I don't get PMs telling me to leave you azz-holes alone because it's not worth it! Ha! Some people just don't want to be unnecessarily targeted by a bunch of azz-wipes! But I love a good fight mutt! So go ahead and continue to fruck your azzholes you love so much (something nasty about that SHIT- pun intended!) and leave me the fruck alone and if I have no credence, put me on ignore!Hmmm, sounds like I hit a nerve. I'm done here, I have better things to do as every legitimate monger here I'm sure feels the same way. Go on with your ramblings if it makes you happy, I have no doubt you will. JD.
Go to a message by the poster you'd like to ignore. Select the poster's name on the upper-left corner of the message. Select "View Profile," and then on the Profile page, select "Add to Ignore List. " I use this feature a lot as it allows you to avoid the keyboard warriors who seem to have multiple profiles set up in order to argue among their various personalities.I should have done that a long time ago Fred. I'm not even sure why I entered into this pointless debate, the guys obviously not playing with a full deck. Thanks for reminding me of that option. I'm sure mongers putting YR on their ignore list is growing by the minute! JD.
MouthHunter
11-12-15, 09:23
He should disappear from hurting our brains with his dumbass remarks.
I just used this option for the first time, it's fucking cool. If all the mongers that find Restless to be a fucking idiot would you use it the only person that would be reading his posts would be himself! Of course that wouldn't stop him from blithering on. JD.
He should disappear from hurting our brains with his dumbass remarks.Gents, I have had the idiot ignored for a few months now. It is well worth it! It's not like I am missing out on valuable Intel, as he rarely provides any. I just got tired of his delusions of grandeur. Ironically, a lot of the girls that didn't see him shows me that their screening process works!!
YR is the ugly chick who believes that if she just keeps talking, she is bound to make some sense, eventually!
Wasn't he supposed to be starting his doctorate program, yeah right!
Carressa Banks
11-12-15, 11:03
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Time to let you entertain yourselves! Especially you Voltran94 or whatever. Love this Woodshed shet! I tore many new azz holes through this medium! Anyway, let me go so that you mongers can get back to your mongering! LOL; damn, for people to pay me so much attention, you have taken your eyes off of the true purpose of why you're here! I guess I SHOULD feel a little special to get so much attention! Shet! Well, you all can have the last word on this one and if it makes you feel better, YOU WON (nothing)! LOL.
Oh, before I go; I have to post this for you Jax Mutt (Jaxdog) because you said I had no supporters and for you Voltran94 because you are full of shet; Someone brought this to my attention and I must say, the gentleman is sharp as heck!
"Go figure that when a woman broke down crying and started talking about wanting to die, I talked with her like a real person.She confided in me in a low moment, and I didn't turn around and use that to try and hurt her business.
"Confided" in him about thoughts of suicide and what does he do with the information? He puts it on blast in the woodshed for the world to see. And all for a totally selfish reason, to try and win points in an internet debate by portraying himself as a wonderful, compassionate person. FAIL
The operative word is CONFIDED! if one CONFIDES in you, you don't tell the whole got damn world about it! But I understand, pussy was trying to win some PUSSY! You so-called saved her from killing herself on the one hand by lending a shoulder BUT yet, you continue to help her in her DRUG ADDICTION which will eventually lead to her demise! What a caring guy!
Bye y'all! This shet is too hilarious!Another excellent post YR. I'm truly a fan of yours!
Chris5.
I just used this option for the first time, it's fucking cool. If all the mongers that find Restless to be a fucking idiot would you use it the only person that would be reading his posts would be himself! Of course that wouldn't stop him from blithering on. JD.I love it when the douche-bags get all butt hurt when someone expresses an opinion in the Woodshed. I'm not sure why you think you are superior to others but hey, whatever gets you through the day.
As a reminder, almost anything goes in the Woodshed. You don't like it? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. So, fuck anyone that wants to stifle free speech. I would bet you are the same type of people that talk over others or more loudly because they think they are right. The same people that cry when their right to express themselves is trampled but are the same people at the front of the line to try and shut others down. Again, fuck you.
That is some frucked up insight! LOL.But I noticed you didn't deny it being true either. HAHAHAHA.
Sorry Voltron but YR is kicking your ass dude! LOL! He is shredding you all over this particular debate!! His post was excellent! Period! This girls are not your friend and they don't love you. Pay them as LESS as you possibly can. And you dictate the fucking terms! Hey brother YR you are more than welcome in our Orlando brotherhood! Orlando is where I'm at. Bring your talents here to the magic city!
Chris5.Sounds like the only love affair going on here is between you and YR. Perhaps that is the real reason for his retirement from the hobby?
The thing you don't seem to grasp is that YR is leaving because providers won't see him. All he wants is a basic GFE from a decent-looking provider in a clean bed. That's really not hard to find, but he turns it into an epic struggle. He plays 20 questions over the phone and they start thinking he is LEO. Or he makes a bunch of demands and they decide his $80 isn't worth the hassle. So much for dictating terms.
I want the same things as he does, but I almost never have problems. Why is that? I do my research. I RTFF or ask people who have seen the provider before I even pick up the phone. My call is short & sweet: session length, time, location. If things aren't right when I get there (e. G. Sketchy incall, not the same girl, management can't stay invisible), I bounce. Otherwise I go in and have my fun. It's not rocket science.
As to what I pay, I do hour sessions because I have a bit of stamina and don't like to rush. Many providers have told me they prefer them as well, because it's more time to get comfortable with the client. That relaxed atmosphere and added connection in a GFE is what I like. I have zero trouble affording any of this, so why not get what I want?
And as to friends? I beg to differ. In this particular case, I no longer even live in the same state. The friendship has been us trading some joke memes and I wished her a happy birthday. OMG, I am so getting taken advantage of! Free birthday wishes! What's next, a car?
Every sex worker has a hustle. It's about making you feel as if they are into you so you'll give them money and do shit for them. The best analogy to telling a sex worker that you understand the hustle is a birthday party clown when you tell him all the kids have gone outside. They give a big exhale, they relax their posture, they say things like "thank god", and often they light up a cigarette. I don't love these girls and they don't love me, we both know it and I'm not trying to change it, so we can be cool with each other. I'm friendly with my dentist, but if he hits me up for money or begs me to come in and get a crown that I don't need, I'm telling him no. Likewise, I'm friendly with my barber, but I'm not trying to get free haircuts out of the deal.
I sold my condo a few weeks ago, and my realtor was a good friend of mine that I met when she was working a sugar baby and webcam girl. She used the money from sex work to take her real estate courses, and now she sells houses and owns rental properties. She was so interested in exploiting me that she sold the place for half of her normal commission.
Sounds like the only love affair going on here is between you and YR. Perhaps that is the real reason for his retirement from the hobby?
The thing you don't seem to grasp is that YR is leaving because providers won't see him. All he wants is a basic GFE from a decent-looking provider in a clean bed. That's really not hard to find, but he turns it into an epic struggle. He plays 20 questions over the phone and they start thinking he is LEO. Or he makes a bunch of demands and they decide his $80 isn't worth the hassle. So much for dictating terms.
I want the same things as he does, but I almost never have problems. Why is that? I do my research. I RTFF or ask people who have seen the provider before I even pick up the phone. My call is short & sweet: session length, time, location. If things aren't right when I get there (e. G. Sketchy incall, not the same girl, management can't stay invisible), I bounce. Otherwise I go in and have my fun. It's not rocket science.
As to what I pay, I do hour sessions because I have a bit of stamina and don't like to rush. Many providers have told me they prefer them as well, because it's more time to get comfortable with the client. That relaxed atmosphere and added connection in a GFE is what I like. I have zero trouble affording any of this, so why not get what I want?
And as to friends? I beg to differ. In this particular case, I no longer even live in the same state. The friendship has been us trading some joke memes and I wished her a happy birthday. OMG, I am so getting taken advantage of! Free birthday wishes! What's next, a car?
Every sex worker has a hustle. It's about making you feel as if they are into you so you'll give them money and do shit for them. The best analogy to telling a sex worker that you understand the hustle is a birthday party clown when you tell him all the kids have gone outside. They give a big exhale, they relax their posture, they say things like "thank god", and often they light up a cigarette. I don't love these girls and they don't love me, we both know it and I'm not trying to change it, so we can be cool with each other. I'm friendly with my dentist, but if he hits me up for money or begs me to come in and get a crown that I don't need, I'm telling him no. Likewise, I'm friendly with my barber, but I'm not trying to get free haircuts out of the deal.
I sold my condo a few weeks ago, and my realtor was a good friend of mine that I met when she was working a sugar baby and webcam girl. She used the money from sex work to take her real estate courses, and now she sells houses and owns rental properties. She was so interested in exploiting me that she sold the place for half of her normal commission.Voltron you sir are one confused DUDE. You should BE a PROVIDER since you love and cater to there needs so much! LOL! Mr I have stamina and I need an hour to fuck! You're confused and I don't give a shit what you think or do. Good your ass left Florida. One less pussy we real mongers have to deal with. Go take a new PROVIDER out to dinner and bring her home to meet your family Mr nice I Cater to provider's asshole!
Chris5.
YoungRestless
11-13-15, 10:56
Voltron you sir are one confused DUDE. You should BE a PROVIDER since you love and cater to there needs so much! LOL! Mr I have stamina and I need an hour to fuck! You're confused and I don't give a shit what you think or do. Good your ass left Florida. One less pussy we real mongers have to deal with. Go take a new PROVIDER out to dinner and bring her home to meet your family Mr nice I Cater to provider's asshole!
Chris5.A million! I agree! Pay as little as possible because at the end of the day, $300 pussy is no different than $80! That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Me and my cheap azz! lol
Couldn't resist!
BTW, I don't do GFE nor do I cuddle/snuggle! I'm funny about kissing a mouth that smokes and sucks random dick- just sayin! I'm a wham bam thank you ma'am, kind of guy! Very simple needs! Hate couches though! lol
Fishguy717
11-13-15, 11:51
Sounds like the only love affair going on here is between you and YR. Perhaps that is the real reason for his retirement from the hobby?
The thing you don't seem to grasp is that YR is leaving because providers won't see him. All he wants is a basic GFE from a decent-looking provider in a clean bed. That's really not hard to find, but he turns it into an epic struggle. He plays 20 questions over the phone and they start thinking he is LEO. Or he makes a bunch of demands and they decide his $80 isn't worth the hassle. So much for dictating terms.
I want the same things as he does, but I almost never have problems. Why is that? I do my research. I RTFF or ask people who have seen the provider before I even pick up the phone. My call is short & sweet: session length, time, location. If things aren't right when I get there (e. G. Sketchy incall, not the same girl, management can't stay invisible), I bounce. Otherwise I go in and have my fun. It's not rocket science.
As to what I pay, I do hour sessions because I have a bit of stamina and don't like to rush. Many providers have told me they prefer them as well, because it's more time to get comfortable with the client. That relaxed atmosphere and added connection in a GFE is what I like. I have zero trouble affording any of this, so why not get what I want?
And as to friends? I beg to differ. In this particular case, I no longer even live in the same state. The friendship has been us trading some joke memes and I wished her a happy birthday. OMG, I am so getting taken advantage of! Free birthday wishes! What's next, a car?
Every sex worker has a hustle. It's about making you feel as if they are into you so you'll give them money and do shit for them. The best analogy to telling a sex worker that you understand the hustle is a birthday party clown when you tell him all the kids have gone outside. They give a big exhale, they relax their posture, they say things like "thank god", and often they light up a cigarette. I don't love these girls and they don't love me, we both know it and I'm not trying to change it, so we can be cool with each other. I'm friendly with my dentist, but if he hits me up for money or begs me to come in and get a crown that I don't need, I'm telling him no. Likewise, I'm friendly with my barber, but I'm not trying to get free haircuts out of the deal.
I sold my condo a few weeks ago, and my realtor was a good friend of mine that I met when she was working a sugar baby and webcam girl. She used the money from sex work to take her real estate courses, and now she sells houses and owns rental properties. She was so interested in exploiting me that she sold the place for half of her normal commission.Damn, I had to add another one to the ignore list. When someone replies to the one you're ignoring, then you see the content anyway.
A million! I agree! Pay as little as possible because at the end of the day, $300 pussy is no different than $80! That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Me and my cheap azz! lol
Couldn't resist!
BTW, I don't do GFE nor do I cuddle/snuggle! I'm funny about kissing a mouth that smokes and sucks random dick- just sayin! I'm a wham bam thank you ma'am, kind of guy! Very simple needs! Hate couches though! lolI love the greener pastures you express to everyone so believers all feel envious of you. You experience the same drama good and bad and pay just as much as us all. I used to listen to youngsters 10 years ago with your bravado about getting the cleanest cheapest pussy less than everyone else on a different posting venue. Someone has to be the loudest and all knowing. You go booooyyeee. I love and agree with your checklist, We all want that! Control is an illusion till the woman takes it away. To each his own. But thanks for the fun.
MouthHunter
11-14-15, 01:34
I love it when the douche-bags get all butt hurt when someone expresses an opinion in the Woodshed. I'm not sure why you think you are superior to others but hey, whatever gets you through the day.
As a reminder, almost anything goes in the Woodshed. You don't like it? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. So, fuck anyone that wants to stifle free speech. I would bet you are the same type of people that talk over others or more loudly because they think they are right. The same people that cry when their right to express themselves is trampled but are the same people at the front of the line to try and shut others down. Again, fuck you.Is that what I'm seeing here?
Is that what I'm seeing here?I'm afraid not MH, I'm not as polite as he is. I'm just tired of some of the senior members "holier than thou" attitude. I don't play well with people like that professionally and I'm sure as hell not going to on some chat forum. But, you can always shoot a note to the Admin and they can check! Stay safe!
Is that what I'm seeing here?It's likely true, if Red Talon = YR is false, you can bet there is another one that = YR.
Member #6355
11-16-15, 07:06
I recently went to a couple of concerts by a well-known singer that I admire - well, that I used to admire. I liked him so much that I saw him both here in Jax and a few days later in Orlando. You can imagine how shocked I was to find out at the second show that he sang almost all of the same songs and reproduced almost all of the seemingly impromptu banter between songs as in the Jax show. Only a few words were changed to refer to local sports teams and landmarks. So all of the warm, fuzzy feelings I had at the first show were dissipated by the discovery that this guy was just in it for the money, saying the same thing to one crowd after another just so he could collect a paycheck.
I was so upset that I immediately got on the Internet and invented numerous personalities for myself on a sex-oriented website. One of these personalities was dedicated to revealing that ladies of the evening are - just like that singer - only in it for the money. The other personalities are dedicated to telling the first one what a swell guy he is. Only by means of this subterfuge will I be able to exorcize the horrible revelation that Barry Manilow isn't the sweet, spontaneous angel I once believed in!
I recently went to a couple of concerts by a well-known singer that I admire - well, that I used to admire. I liked him so much that I saw him both here in Jax and a few days later in Orlando. You can imagine how shocked I was to find out at the second show that he sang almost all of the same songs and reproduced almost all of the seemingly impromptu banter between songs as in the Jax show. Only a few words were changed to refer to local sports teams and landmarks. So all of the warm, fuzzy feelings I had at the first show were dissipated by the discovery that this guy was just in it for the money, saying the same thing to one crowd after another just so he could collect a paycheck.
I was so upset that I immediately got on the Internet and invented numerous personalities for myself on a sex-oriented website. One of these personalities was dedicated to revealing that ladies of the evening are - just like that singer - only in it for the money. The other personalities are dedicated to telling the first one what a swell guy he is. Only by means of this subterfuge will I be able to exorcize the horrible revelation that Barry Manilow isn't the sweet, spontaneous angel I once believed in!Live and let go!
The YR drama serious was buried a couple days ago. You sir are trying to dig it up and and bring it back like pet cemetery. If he has retired then good for him. If not, I understand that too. You woke up this morning thinking about another monger? You probably going to miss him the most. Won't you?
And don't go tryna say that CB1 = YR. It won't add up.
CB1.
It's Monger Crush Monday!
Let's get Fred to admit to his crush on YR.
JTM used to have a crush on PoniBoi. Where are they now?
And my crush is Preacher because most mongers write with have no personal. LOL.
I recently went to a couple of concerts by a well-known singer that I admire - well, that I used to admire. I liked him so much that I saw him both here in Jax and a few days later in Orlando. You can imagine how shocked I was to find out at the second show that he sang almost all of the same songs and reproduced almost all of the seemingly impromptu banter between songs as in the Jax show. Only a few words were changed to refer to local sports teams and landmarks. So all of the warm, fuzzy feelings I had at the first show were dissipated by the discovery that this guy was just in it for the money, saying the same thing to one crowd after another just so he could collect a paycheck.
I was so upset that I immediately got on the Internet and invented numerous personalities for myself on a sex-oriented website. One of these personalities was dedicated to revealing that ladies of the evening are - just like that singer - only in it for the money. The other personalities are dedicated to telling the first one what a swell guy he is. Only by means of this subterfuge will I be able to exorcize the horrible revelation that Barry Manilow isn't the sweet, spontaneous angel I once believed in!Providers, Dentists, Investment Advisors, and now Artists. The malaise is spreading.
While reviewing my mail recently, I noticed that everyone in my family received the same "preferred" /"exclusive offer" from merchants and credit card promoters. It seems that the holidays are similarly infected.
We should name the "virus". I vote for "rational self interest". Whoops Ayn Rand already coined that one.
J4 me.
I love it when the douche-bags get all butt hurt when someone expresses an opinion in the Woodshed. I'm not sure why you think you are superior to others but hey, whatever gets you through the day.
As a reminder, almost anything goes in the Woodshed. You don't like it? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. So, fuck anyone that wants to stifle free speech. I would bet you are the same type of people that talk over others or more loudly because they think they are right. The same people that cry when their right to express themselves is trampled but are the same people at the front of the line to try and shut others down. Again, fuck you.I strongly suspect the sentiment would be very different had the behavior been limited exclusively to the Woodshed, but it isn't.
J4 me.
YoungRestless
11-16-15, 09:02
I recently went to a couple of concerts by a well-known singer that I admire - well, that I used to admire. I liked him so much that I saw him both here in Jax and a few days later in Orlando. You can imagine how shocked I was to find out at the second show that he sang almost all of the same songs and reproduced almost all of the seemingly impromptu banter between songs as in the Jax show. Only a few words were changed to refer to local sports teams and landmarks. So all of the warm, fuzzy feelings I had at the first show were dissipated by the discovery that this guy was just in it for the money, saying the same thing to one crowd after another just so he could collect a paycheck.
I was so upset that I immediately got on the Internet and invented numerous personalities for myself on a sex-oriented website. One of these personalities was dedicated to revealing that ladies of the evening are - just like that singer - only in it for the money. The other personalities are dedicated to telling the first one what a swell guy he is. Only by means of this subterfuge will I be able to exorcize the horrible revelation that Barry Manilow isn't the sweet, spontaneous angel I once believed in!Just dropping in for a moment!
Good news! No, I did not save 15% on car insurance buying it through the gecko! However...!
Because of my thrifty behavior; because I don't think p-ssy is gold because someone charges $300; because I won't spend a nice chunk of my salary on used p-ssy; because I won't spend my retirement on, again, used p-ssy and drug addicts; GUESS WHAT?!
Because I'm so thrifty and have better sense than most and refuse to go broke on used p-ssy, I was able to get rid of my mortgage and have been without a car payment for years and I owe no one for gradate school! Nice isn't it! LOL.
Is $300 p-ssy better than $60-80 p-ssy?
Hell to the naw! Or perhaps you'll understand this better! Hell to the no! Kind of like saying 5 to the 3rd power or again, Hell to the naw naw!
Folks want you to admirer them because they pay a mint for a piece of azz! Child please, don't make me sneeze! At the end of the day, p-ssy, is p-ssy, is p-ssy!
It's all about what you value boo! I just don't place that kind of value on things that have very poor ROI (return on investment)!
Old azz man spending his life savings on p-ssy! Such a shame! I tell ya, even without a house payment, no school debt, very little credit card debt, and no car payment; I still would not pay that kind of money for p-ssy! Why?! Because partneroni, the difference between what I donate and what you donate is that with you, they have more money for their habits! With me, they'd have to solicit their drugs from the discount dope boy (A.K.A. Triple D)! LOL.
Now that's good news!
YoungRestless
11-16-15, 09:09
Is that what I'm seeing here?Just a few words!
Can you please go get some p-ssy instead of asking about it so much? Most of your posts are asking folks: "anyone seen this one or that one?" That shet gets old! LOL.
Live and let go!
The YR drama serious was buried a couple days ago. You sir are trying to dig it up and and bring it back like pet cemetery. If he has retired then good for him. If not, I understand that too. You woke up this morning thinking about another monger? You probably going to miss him the most. Won't you?
And don't go tryna say that CB1 = YR. It won't add up.
CB1.
It's Monger Crush Monday!
Let's get Fred to admit to his crush on YR.
JTM used to have a crush on PoniBoi. Where are they now?
And my crush is Preacher because most mongers write with have no personal. LOL.
Its the Woodshed remember. Anything goes. As Red Talon so eloquently wrote "if you don't like it don't let the door hit you in the ass".
Besides. FZ has posted a handful of comments in the Woodshed related to this matter. By my count he has still a "gazillion " more to go before catching up to YR.
And unless I missed one of your posts, I don't recall you ever mentioning to YR to "stem the blithering".
So you throw a flag on FZ but not YR. Come on now, CB1 you seemed to me to be more fair and balanced in the past.
J4 me.
Its the Woodshed remember. Anything goes. As Red Talon so eloquently wrote "if you don't like it don't let the door hit you in the ass".
Besides. FZ has posted a handful of comments in the Woodshed related to this matter. By my count he has still a "gazillion " more to go before catching up to YR.
And unless I missed one of your posts, I don't recall you ever mentioning to YR to "stem the blithering".
So you throw a flag on FZ but not YR. Come on now, CB1 you seemed to me to be more fair and balanced in the past.
J4 me.There was a full day that the woodshed had dropped the YR beat down. I have in the pass told YR he was long winded. I also have noticed that YR gets gang up on for being a passionate novelist of the hobby. FS woke up with the mini series. If he really didn't want to be bothered with YR then he wouldn't have posted what was clearly a slick shot. Now the woodshed is back beating the dead horse.
This ain't about pussy. This is more of bullying. I'm not saying that either has a history if more intel. That's besides the point. Some mongers have been in this game longer than others. Some are out banging up a storm but rarely post. I get pm'd more intel than is posted daily by silent seniors.
I'm all for the shed battles. But I also have been asked to let it go by PoniBoi. And that I did.
CB1.
Maybe I can bring a topic to the shed that will change the channel from this soap opera. LOL.
The Preacher
11-16-15, 14:31
Live and let go!
The YR drama serious was buried a couple days ago. You sir are trying to dig it up and and bring it back like pet cemetery. If he has retired then good for him. If not, I understand that too. You woke up this morning thinking about another monger? You probably going to miss him the most. Won't you?
And don't go tryna say that CB1 = YR. It won't add up.
CB1.
It's Monger Crush Monday!
Let's get Fred to admit to his crush on YR.
JTM used to have a crush on PoniBoi. Where are they now?
And my crush is Preacher because most mongers write with have no personal. LOL.I've been looking high and low for my crush. Poni Boy. WTH happened to that guy? Hopefully he didn't get locked up!
Just dropping in for a moment!
Good news! No, I did not save 15% on car insurance buying it through the gecko! However...!
Because of my thrifty behavior; because I don't think p-ssy is gold because someone charges $300; because I won't spend a nice chunk of my salary on used p-ssy; because I won't spend my retirement on, again, used p-ssy and drug addicts; GUESS WHAT?!
Because I'm so thrifty and have better sense than most and refuse to go broke on used p-ssy, I was able to get rid of my mortgage and have been without a car payment for years and I owe no one for gradate school! Nice isn't it! LOL.
Is $300 p-ssy better than $60-80 p-ssy?
Hell to the naw! Or perhaps you'll understand this better! Hell to the no! Kind of like saying 5 to the 3rd power or again, Hell to the naw naw!
Folks want you to admirer them because they pay a mint for a piece of azz! Child please, don't make me sneeze! At the end of the day, p-ssy, is p-ssy, is p-ssy!
It's all about what you value boo! I just don't place that kind of value on things that have very poor ROI (return on investment)!
Old azz man spending his life savings on p-ssy! Such a shame! I tell ya, even without a house payment, no school debt, very little credit card debt, and no car payment; I still would not pay that kind of money for p-ssy! Why?! Because partneroni, the difference between what I donate and what you donate is that with you, they have more money for their habits! With me, they'd have to solicit their drugs from the discount dope boy (A.K.A. Triple D)! LOL.
Now that's good news!I accidentally opened my account with out punching in my password and happened to see Restless's post about, well who care's really, but I have to give credit where credit is due, he finally made me laugh! Discount Dope Boy, Triple the, now that was pretty funny. JD.
I was trolling face book. I was on the page of a provider friend when I read a comment that was made on her recent pic. Click on the dudes pic and was brought to his page. To my surprise this dude had a shit load of friends. Mostly women. So I started to look at them because I recognized several right off. To my surprise he was friends with damn near every BP provider current and past and just as many strippers. From his pic I didn't get the impression that he was a monger. Maybe a DB would explain his popularity. I'm just guessing. I'm not for sure.
One particular friend stood out. I recognize the chick but not the name. Took me a minute to place her. It was our very own Carressa. (I think that how you spell it) My inquiring mind prompted me to go throw her page. No crime right. She put it out there as public knowledge. This was good timing because I had been thinking of treating myself to BP session. I wanted to see for myself what all the fuss was about. Carressa, Peyton, or Aubrey. But after going through her pics, I quickly came to a conclusion. Carressa is not cute at all! And I thought Angie Loveless was overrated. This is the woodshed and I am a provider critic. Call it how I see it as always.
Mongers paying 2 yards to see her. She all make up, nose and boobs. I was so shock I had to share with a couple others in the hobby. All too we floored by what they saw. But what got me the most is the garbage she posted on her page. Typical young street girl shit. Not that of a mature professional. But I can tell she likes her liquor from the things she posted. And I quote " I think when I drinking I driver str8 er when I'm looking at my Iphone. ".
This hooker needs to be walking. If I remember correctly just a couple days ago a monger posted a pic of her. It only said something like guess who this is or maybe not. I think it was MH or KL. Not sure but I looked back and it's been removed from existence. So if your on the fence like me between the three. St8 up! Go for Peyton or Aubrey if you paying for looks. Most of Carressa pics looked tragic.
CB1.
I'm sure I'm going to catch hell for this post. But I don't think any monger can say I have ever steered them wrong.
YoungRestless
11-17-15, 00:12
I was trolling face book. I was on the page of a provider friend when I read a comment that was made on her recent pic. Click on the dudes pic and was brought to his page. To my surprise this dude had a shit load of friends. Mostly women. So I started to look at them because I recognized several right off. To my surprise he was friends with damn near every BP provider current and past and just as many strippers. From his pic I didn't get the impression that he was a monger. Maybe a DB would explain his popularity. I'm just guessing. I'm not for sure.
One particular friend stood out. I recognize the chick but not the name. Took me a minute to place her. It was our very own Carressa. (I think that how you spell it) My inquiring mind prompted me to go throw her page. No crime right. She put it out there as public knowledge. This was good timing because I had been thinking of treating myself to BP session. I wanted to see for myself what all the fuss was about. Carressa, Peyton, or Aubrey. But after going through her pics, I quickly came to a conclusion. Carressa is not cute at all! And I thought Angie Loveless was overrated. This is the woodshed and I am a provider critic. Call it how I see it as always.
Mongers paying 2 yards to see her. She all make up, nose and boobs. I was so shock I had to share with a couple others in the hobby. All too we floored by what they saw. But what got me the most is the garbage she posted on her page. Typical young street girl shit. Not that of a mature professional. But I can tell she likes her liquor from the things she posted. And I quote " I think when I drinking I driver str8 er when I'm looking at my Iphone. ".
This hooker needs to be walking. If I remember correctly just a couple days ago a monger posted a pic of her. It only said something like guess who this is or maybe not. I think it was MH or KL. Not sure but I looked back and it's been removed from existence. So if your on the fence like me between the three. St8 up! Go for Peyton or Aubrey if you paying for looks. Most of Carressa pics looked tragic.
CB1.
I'm sure I'm going to catch hell for this post. But I don't think any monger can say I have ever steered them wrong.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I saw her FB pix a long time ago and I was shocked. Someone on here PM'd me because he thought I was speaking for her in the affirmative (I wasn't, I was just being fosicious) but he couldn't believe that one of those pix she posted showed more of a pot belly which points to heavy liquor usage- I know, I used to work around these types. Anyway, as I always say, as far as reviews are concerned, they should only be taken with a grain of salt because it is no telling why some girls get rave reviews or some poor. What questions come to mind regarding the reviewer: was he drunk, or high on something else, is the prescription in his glasses bad, has it been a while since he had a taste, some could be OLD AS HELL and anything that moves and in their 20's look good!, etc. As my history teacher used to say: "one never knows, does one!" Still cracks me up! LOL.
The Preacher
11-17-15, 00:32
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I saw her FB pix a long time ago and I was shocked. Someone on here PM'd me because he thought I was speaking for her in the affirmative (I wasn't, I was just being fosicious) but he couldn't believe that one of those pix she posted showed more of a pot belly which points to heavy liquor usage- I know, I used to work around these types. Anyway, as I always say, as far as reviews are concerned, they should only be taken with a grain of salt because it is no telling why some girls get rave reviews or some poor. What questions come to mind regarding the reviewer: was he drunk, or high on something else, is the prescription in his glasses bad, has it been a while since he had a taste, etc. As my history teacher used to say: "one never knows, does one!" Still cracks me up! LOL.One other variable involved is the reviewers general experience with women. If a monger has not had the luxury to sample the many different levels of attractive women in real life for one reason or another, chances are that a BP girl would blow his mind pretty damn easy. For me, I only pull the trigger on specific body types and/or performance levels. I guess you can say that I am a monger specialist, not a generalist. That Caressa chick did not ping my radar at all. Not knocking her, just saying that she wasn't impressive enough to me to warrant taking her for a drive. Now those chicks Payton and Aubrey are REALLY pinging my radar! But I am trying to retire from the hobby though so I haven't pulled the trigger. YET! .
There was a full day that the woodshed had dropped the YR beat down. I have in the pass told YR he was long winded. I also have noticed that YR gets gang up on for being a passionate novelist of the hobby. FS woke up with the mini series. If he really didn't want to be bothered with YR then he wouldn't have posted what was clearly a slick shot. Now the woodshed is back beating the dead horse.
This ain't about pussy. This is more of bullying. I'm not saying that either has a history if more intel. That's besides the point. Some mongers have been in this game longer than others. Some are out banging up a storm but rarely post. I get pm'd more intel than is posted daily by silent seniors.
I'm all for the shed battles. But I also have been asked to let it go by PoniBoi. And that I did.
CB1.
Maybe I can bring a topic to the shed that will change the channel from this soap opera. LOL.I respectfully disagree.
If you contrast the content of the posts between YR and the rest (FZ, JD, etc), YR is apt to employ a very pointed stick to jab others that disagree with him.
But here's the important point for me, YR does it by invoking terms like "go ahead I'll rip your azz" or by referring to the poster disparagingly ("Fred Flinstone", "Jack Mutt" etc).
YR's diatribes are vitriolic and personal. And while others may have responded similarly, the frequency, intensity, and immaturity seemed to me less so than by YR.
So who was really bullying who?
Sorry dude. YR wasn't a victim of bullying. Although it never ceases to amaze me how often petulant behavior is rationalized by "victimization".
But thanks for changing the channel. As I stated in the title this is my last post on this matter.
(BTW I agree with Fishguy regarding the "Ignore" feature. It only truly works if there are no responses to the "ignored").
Respectfully.
J4 me.
I was trolling face book. I was on the page of a provider friend when I read a comment that was made on her recent pic. Click on the dudes pic and was brought to his page. To my surprise this dude had a shit load of friends. Mostly women. So I started to look at them because I recognized several right off. To my surprise he was friends with damn near every BP provider current and past and just as many strippers. From his pic I didn't get the impression that he was a monger. Maybe a DB would explain his popularity. I'm just guessing. I'm not for sure.
One particular friend stood out. I recognize the chick but not the name. Took me a minute to place her. It was our very own Carressa. (I think that how you spell it) My inquiring mind prompted me to go throw her page. No crime right. She put it out there as public knowledge. This was good timing because I had been thinking of treating myself to BP session. I wanted to see for myself what all the fuss was about. Carressa, Peyton, or Aubrey. But after going through her pics, I quickly came to a conclusion. Carressa is not cute at all! And I thought Angie Loveless was overrated. This is the woodshed and I am a provider critic. Call it how I see it as always.
Mongers paying 2 yards to see her. She all make up, nose and boobs. I was so shock I had to share with a couple others in the hobby. All too we floored by what they saw. But what got me the most is the garbage she posted on her page. Typical young street girl shit. Not that of a mature professional. But I can tell she likes her liquor from the things she posted. And I quote " I think when I drinking I driver str8 er when I'm looking at my Iphone. ".
This hooker needs to be walking. If I remember correctly just a couple days ago a monger posted a pic of her. It only said something like guess who this is or maybe not. I think it was MH or KL. Not sure but I looked back and it's been removed from existence. So if your on the fence like me between the three. St8 up! Go for Peyton or Aubrey if you paying for looks. Most of Carressa pics looked tragic.
CB1.
I'm sure I'm going to catch hell for this post. But I don't think any monger can say I have ever steered them wrong.But I actually agree with you. I saw the face shot that someone posted of Carressa and she looks like a cartoon character. I couldn't stop laughing knowing all the rave reviews she gets. Oh well, to each his own.
One other variable involved is the reviewers general experience with women. If a monger has not had the luxury to sample the many different levels of attractive women in real life for one reason or another, chances are that a BP girl would blow his mind pretty damn easy. For me, I only pull the trigger on specific body types and/or performance levels. I guess you can say that I am a monger specialist, not a generalist. That Caressa chick did not ping my radar at all. Not knocking her, just saying that she wasn't impressive enough to me to warrant taking her for a drive. Now those chicks Payton and Aubrey are REALLY pinging my radar! But I am trying to retire from the hobby though so I haven't pulled the trigger. YET! .Well said Preacher, any monger that has sampled a lot of women in real life typically will have higher standards when mongering, I'm speaking in general of course. One must also take into account personal preferences, we all have our likes and dislikes.
I have also recognized a continuing problem in my personal life. Women that I now date are generally older, I'm no spring chicken and don't expect to date one, the issue arises when we have sex and of course they look and act nothing like the 20-30 year olds I've been fucking in my mongering life. Lets face it, most 40-50 year old women have been through child birth and have aged, their mature women, even the ones that take very good care of themselves have some milage. It's not that I'm disappointed with these women, I'm not, it's just hard for me to sustain any type of long term sexual relationship in my personal dating life, I start yearning for a tight young body to fuck! There's also the sex itself. I've become a Greek freak of late and while there are plenty of regular women that will do anal I truly like to pound that ass almost daily and there's very few "normal" women that can take that kind of ass punishment day in and day out. Needless to say I've created a very hard role to fill with the attributes I'm looking for, a good looking in shape older woman that I get along with that's up for getting her ass fucked hard everyday! I'm fully aware that my mongering life is getting in the way of my personal relationships and I've thought about quitting but I've developed such a great verity of very good local providers that fulfill my every sexual want and desire I'm really torn between getting out of the life and trying to create a better personal life for myself. I also realize I've developed a sexual addiction but knowing this and actually doing something about it are two different things! JD.
YoungRestless
11-17-15, 11:55
I respectfully disagree.
If you contrast the content of the posts between YR and the rest (FZ, JD, etc), YR is apt to employ a very pointed stick to jab others that disagree with him.
But here's the important point for me, YR does it by invoking terms like "go ahead I'll rip your azz" or by referring to the poster disparagingly ("Fred Flinstone", "Jack Mutt" etc).
YR's diatribes are vitriolic and personal. And while others may have responded similarly, the frequency, intensity, and immaturity seemed to me less so than by YR.
So who was really bullying who?
Sorry dude. YR wasn't a victim of bullying. Although it never ceases to amaze me how often petulant behavior is rationalized by "victimization".
But thanks for changing the channel. As I stated in the title this is my last post on this matter.
(BTW I agree with Fishguy regarding the "Ignore" feature. It only truly works if there are no responses to the "ignored").
Respectfully.
J4 me.
I'll TRY to be very short on this one but Junior, let me explain something to you and others, for that matter! I don't really give a flying fruck who disagrees with me! Really! I am mature and realistic enough to understand that people will disagree. However, it is not the disagreement that gets me, for really and truly, everybody has an opinion! But what gets me is how one interacts with others. I mean, if one disagrees with me, that's fine. But when you do it in a condescending manner and disrespectful, that's when I get up on my toes and go to battle! One thing I've noticed about folks is that they readily can dish it out but man oh man they cannot take it when the shet comes back on them! They then want to start crying and pretending to be the victim. There's always a way to have a respectful discourse with someone without the insults BUT remember, if ya going to come at someone in a discourteous manner, be ready to get it back 10-fold! Now don't sit here and tell me that different ones have been so respectful and sweet; they have been anything BUT! If one goes back to all the different issues I've had with different ones (starting from the outset of the issue), you will see who initiated the negative exchange and I know FOR SURE it wasn't me because even in my personal life, I am not a contentious person. I'm really an under the radar type who bothers no one! And THEN, it's enough that one might have an exchange with the initial instigator but then his buddy wants to chime in with insults (those that have no frucking backbone) and then the shet gets started! If I am having a disagreement with someone, no one requires your input- rude ones, at that! Especially if you cannot be objective!
The issue here is, sometimes we say things that rub folks the wrong way; e. g., Like saying something negative about a provider they may LOVE SO MUCH and then they come after you in a nasty / untactful manner. Or like when I mentioned, in general, about even the high priced providers don't give a damn about you; who got their panties in a twist over that? Yeah, Fred Flintstone! Some things just touches nerves but guess what, there is no reason to smart off to someone for making general comments. Guess what? I also knew who would get their panties in a twist once I mentioned that thing about the high priced escorts- so called! Knew it! As you all like to mention, YMMV. What worked great for you in a session, might not work so great for me. Just the nature of the beast! And let me say this too, some people are rather passive-aggressive types. When they come after you, it might seem innocuous on the surface but I can see them seething underneath (through their writings)! Even when they approach you in a kind of subtle way, you can see (in their writings) that they really mean to insult you! You can see sometimes that they've wanted to say something to you for a while; at least I can. And no, I am not paranoid!
Am I being too sensitive? Hell to the naw! Do I expect to be spoken to like a got damn grown azz man? Hell yes! And so do you! Lastly and again, if you are going to dish it out, be ready to take it 10-fold when it comes back on you INSTEAD of crying like a biatch!
Well said Preacher, any monger that has sampled a lot of women in real life typically will have higher standards when mongering, I'm speaking in general of course. One must also take into account personal preferences, we all have our likes and dislikes.
I have also recognized a continuing problem in my personal life. Women that I now date are generally older, I'm no spring chicken and don't expect to date one, the issue arises when we have sex and of course they look and act nothing like the 20-30 year olds I've been fucking in my mongering life. Lets face it, most 40-50 year old women have been through child birth and have aged, their mature women, even the ones that take very good care of themselves have some milage. It's not that I'm disappointed with these women, I'm not, it's just hard for me to sustain any type of long term sexual relationship in my personal dating life, I start yearning for a tight young body to fuck! There's also the sex itself. I've become a Greek freak of late and while there are plenty of regular women that will do anal I truly like to pound that ass almost daily and there's very few "normal" women that can take that kind of ass punishment day in and day out. Needless to say I've created a very hard role to fill with the attributes I'm looking for, a good looking in shape older woman that I get along with that's up for getting her ass fucked hard everyday! I'm fully aware that my mongering life is getting in the way of my personal relationships and I've thought about quitting but I've developed such a great verity of very good local providers that fulfill my every sexual want and desire I'm really torn between getting out of the life and trying to create a better personal life for myself. I also realize I've developed a sexual addiction but knowing this and actually doing something about it are two different things! JD.True!
It's hard to balance playing in dreamland and living in the real world.
MyDarkSide
11-17-15, 15:10
If I remember correctly just a couple days ago a monger posted a pic of her. It only said something like guess who this is or maybe not. I think it was MH or KL. Not sure but I looked back and it's been removed from existence. So if your on the fence like me between the three. St8 up! Go for Peyton or Aubrey if you paying for looks. Most of Carressa pics looked tragic.Hmmm. If I'd have known that was Carressa's face I'd have pulled (would pull) the trigger on that one. Even without the good reviews I found it kinda hot in a MILF way. To each their own.
Well said Preacher, any monger that has sampled a lot of women in real life typically will have higher standards when mongering, I'm speaking in general of course. One must also take into account personal preferences, we all have our likes and dislikes.
I have also recognized a continuing problem in my personal life. Women that I now date are generally older, I'm no spring chicken and don't expect to date one, the issue arises when we have sex and of course they look and act nothing like the 20-30 year olds I've been fucking in my mongering life. Lets face it, most 40-50 year old women have been through child birth and have aged, their mature women, even the ones that take very good care of themselves have some milage. It's not that I'm disappointed with these women, I'm not, it's just hard for me to sustain any type of long term sexual relationship in my personal dating life, I start yearning for a tight young body to fuck! There's also the sex itself. I've become a Greek freak of late and while there are plenty of regular women that will do anal I truly like to pound that ass almost daily and there's very few "normal" women that can take that kind of ass punishment day in and day out. Needless to say I've created a very hard role to fill with the attributes I'm looking for, a good looking in shape older woman that I get along with that's up for getting her ass fucked hard everyday! I'm fully aware that my mongering life is getting in the way of my personal relationships and I've thought about quitting but I've developed such a great verity of very good local providers that fulfill my every sexual want and desire I'm really torn between getting out of the life and trying to create a better personal life for myself. I also realize I've developed a sexual addiction but knowing this and actually doing something about it are two different things! JD.JD, if you happen to find one let me know if she has a younger sister, thanks!
Live and let go!
The YR drama serious was buried a couple days ago. You sir are trying to dig it up and and bring it back like pet cemetery. If he has retired then good for him. If not, I understand that too. You woke up this morning thinking about another monger? You probably going to miss him the most. Won't you?
And don't go tryna say that CB1 = YR. It won't add up.
CB1.
It's Monger Crush Monday!
Let's get Fred to admit to his crush on YR.
JTM used to have a crush on PoniBoi. Where are they now?
And my crush is Preacher because most mongers write with have no personal. LOL.Besides, everyone knows CB1 does not =YR, all of us know CB1 = Pipelayer10. Ha!
I've been looking high and low for my crush. Poni Boy. WTH happened to that guy? Hopefully he didn't get locked up!Got Charlie Sheen'd maybe.
Well said Preacher, any monger that has sampled a lot of women in real life typically will have higher standards when mongering, I'm speaking in general of course. One must also take into account personal preferences, we all have our likes and dislikes.
I have also recognized a continuing problem in my personal life. Women that I now date are generally older, I'm no spring chicken and don't expect to date one, the issue arises when we have sex and of course they look and act nothing like the 20-30 year olds I've been fucking in my mongering life. Lets face it, most 40-50 year old women have been through child birth and have aged, their mature women, even the ones that take very good care of themselves have some milage. It's not that I'm disappointed with these women, I'm not, it's just hard for me to sustain any type of long term sexual relationship in my personal dating life, I start yearning for a tight young body to fuck! There's also the sex itself. I've become a Greek freak of late and while there are plenty of regular women that will do anal I truly like to pound that ass almost daily and there's very few "normal" women that can take that kind of ass punishment day in and day out. Needless to say I've created a very hard role to fill with the attributes I'm looking for, a good looking in shape older woman that I get along with that's up for getting her ass fucked hard everyday! I'm fully aware that my mongering life is getting in the way of my personal relationships and I've thought about quitting but I've developed such a great verity of very good local providers that fulfill my every sexual want and desire I'm really torn between getting out of the life and trying to create a better personal life for myself. I also realize I've developed a sexual addiction but knowing this and actually doing something about it are two different things! JD.I hear ya'.
Trying to find right body type (spinner for me with a nice rack), mature, sober, competent, accommodating, civilized, and low volume. Is like searching for a Unicorn (that spews skittles).
But the good news is despite my age, the girls only seem to get younger and if I'm not keen on the current roster of girls I just sit back and wait for the next recruitment class. Sort of like Texas weather, if ya' don't like it, don't fret its bound to change soon.
Stay safe.
J4 me.
How do I break out of regular member shite?
I need a minimum number of posts or something?
It's annoying to post and wait until an admin approves my message or whatever it is that delays everything.
[blue]Six months and 25 posts. I wonder why we do that?
Oh yeah, because when we didn't assholes would register just to troll.
A2[blue]
Don't get me wrong, I agree with it. Thanks for clarifying the rules.
I tried searching but couldn't find them posted.
I was trolling face book. I was on the page of a provider friend when I read a comment that was made on her recent pic. Click on the dudes pic and was brought to his page. To my surprise this dude had a shit load of friends. Mostly women. So I started to look at them because I recognized several right off. To my surprise he was friends with damn near every BP provider current and past and just as many strippers. From his pic I didn't get the impression that he was a monger. Maybe a DB would explain his popularity. I'm just guessing. I'm not for sure.
One particular friend stood out. I recognize the chick but not the name. Took me a minute to place her. It was our very own Carressa. (I think that how you spell it) My inquiring mind prompted me to go throw her page. No crime right. She put it out there as public knowledge. This was good timing because I had been thinking of treating myself to BP session. I wanted to see for myself what all the fuss was about. Carressa, Peyton, or Aubrey. But after going through her pics, I quickly came to a conclusion. Carressa is not cute at all! And I thought Angie Loveless was overrated. This is the woodshed and I am a provider critic. Call it how I see it as always.
Mongers paying 2 yards to see her. She all make up, nose and boobs. I was so shock I had to share with a couple others in the hobby. All too we floored by what they saw. But what got me the most is the garbage she posted on her page. Typical young street girl shit. Not that of a mature professional. But I can tell she likes her liquor from the things she posted. And I quote " I think when I drinking I driver str8 er when I'm looking at my Iphone. ".
This hooker needs to be walking. If I remember correctly just a couple days ago a monger posted a pic of her. It only said something like guess who this is or maybe not. I think it was MH or KL. Not sure but I looked back and it's been removed from existence. So if your on the fence like me between the three. St8 up! Go for Peyton or Aubrey if you paying for looks. Most of Carressa pics looked tragic.
CB1.
I'm sure I'm going to catch hell for this post. But I don't think any monger can say I have ever steered them wrong.While I have never met Caressa, I have conversed with her many times on private mail, in fact I was one that reposted her face pic and made a not so flattering comment, she rightly let know that was wrong.
The girl is real. Are you a stud, how big is your tool, why are you only seeing CL girls, YMMV, of the girls that only give CBJ to you but I get BBBJ. What's your problem. To challenge me is okay but don't judge me. I heard that you have in-grown ass hair boils that you like picked out.
While I have never met Caressa, I have conversed with her many times on private mail, in fact I was one that reposted her face pic and made a not so flattering comment, she rightly let know that was wrong.
The girl is real. Are you a stud, how big is your tool, why are you only seeing CL girls, YMMV, of the girls that only give CBJ to you but I get BBBJ. What's your problem. To challenge me is okay but don't judge me. I heard that you have in-grown ass hair boils that you like picked out.So you made commented on her looks and she checked you. That's your bad. Not mine. Don't go try a check me. You will get schooled.
First off, Carressa opens herself up for judgment by being a provider. No monger goes to see a hooker because they have see great personality in a ad pic.
And if you read my posts then you know, I don't just see CL girls but I will say that the last CO girl ended up being not wanting P4 P even though I hinted to it in my ad. And she was a better lay then most of the providers I've seen.
Also what kinda man or monger ask another man how big his tool is. That make you the biggest tool in this 'shed. And where in my hundreds of post have you read I got a CBJ? And you want to know if I'm a stud. No. But I'm not old fat or ugly. How about you? Let's be honest buddy. You are more than welcome to look through my post, find a provider that I've seen that knows me and ask them any punk at ss question you like about me.
CB1.
It's so funny that this hypocrite admits to never meeting a provider. Makes fun of her. Gets rebuked by her. Then sets out to be her white knight and come after me And if you still want to know how big my tool is then kneel your punk at ss before me. You shall be knighted by me too.
While I have never met Caressa, I have conversed with her many times on private mail, in fact I was one that reposted her face pic and made a not so flattering comment, she rightly let know that was wrong.
The girl is real. Are you a stud, how big is your tool, why are you only seeing CL girls, YMMV, of the girls that only give CBJ to you but I get BBBJ. What's your problem. To challenge me is okay but don't judge me. I heard that you have in-grown ass hair boils that you like picked out.Dawg! I read through the last 100 and something of your 400 plus post and noticed sometime. You only mentioned seeing one provider named Pandora in Pensacola threads. Your not a monger your a commentator at best. You can't pay for a provider to give you a bone, Dawg? If you going to come at me for a provider. At least be puzzy whipped from her. Maybe she will give you a freebie or discount for stooge.
CB1.
Dawgleg =JTM (reloaded).
I was trolling face book. I was on the page of a provider friend when I read a comment that was made on her recent pic. Click on the dudes pic and was brought to his page. To my surprise this dude had a shit load of friends. Mostly women. So I started to look at them because I recognized several right off. To my surprise he was friends with damn near every BP provider current and past and just as many strippers. From his pic I didn't get the impression that he was a monger. Maybe a DB would explain his popularity. I'm just guessing. I'm not for sure.
One particular friend stood out. I recognize the chick but not the name. Took me a minute to place her. It was our very own Carressa. (I think that how you spell it) My inquiring mind prompted me to go throw her page. No crime right. She put it out there as public knowledge. This was good timing because I had been thinking of treating myself to BP session. I wanted to see for myself what all the fuss was about. Carressa, Peyton, or Aubrey. But after going through her pics, I quickly came to a conclusion. Carressa is not cute at all! And I thought Angie Loveless was overrated. This is the woodshed and I am a provider critic. Call it how I see it as always.
Mongers paying 2 yards to see her. She all make up, nose and boobs. I was so shock I had to share with a couple others in the hobby. All too we floored by what they saw. But what got me the most is the garbage she posted on her page. Typical young street girl shit. Not that of a mature professional. But I can tell she likes her liquor from the things she posted. And I quote " I think when I drinking I driver str8 er when I'm looking at my Iphone. ".
This hooker needs to be walking. If I remember correctly just a couple days ago a monger posted a pic of her. It only said something like guess who this is or maybe not. I think it was MH or KL. Not sure but I looked back and it's been removed from existence. So if your on the fence like me between the three. St8 up! Go for Peyton or Aubrey if you paying for looks. Most of Carressa pics looked tragic.
CB1.
I'm sure I'm going to catch hell for this post. But I don't think any monger can say I have ever steered them wrong.Face isn't the cutest but I've definitely done a lot worse. She's not bad to look at. I wouldn't say she is street walker material though. Those that use chemicals I would say are street walker material, I enjoy my liquor as well. I've never seen her social media page but I definitely am curious now. My dream with here was decent. BBBJ was a 4 out of 10. Kinda just licked it. But she has great boobs and a amazing attitude. I would repeat but there's always someone cuter out there. It's why I love the hobby!! Everyday you find new presents underneath the tree to unwrap. You shouldn't catch hell from anyone. This is the woodshed it's what goes down here.
ThePhenom120
11-26-15, 21:31
I wonder how many providers are accepting Black Friday donations tonight? LOL.
Stewie Griffin
11-26-15, 23:00
I wonder how many providers are accepting Black Friday donations tonight? LOL.Trying to hook up with this one now.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/let-me-rub-you-downpunkin/7825431
ThePhenom120
11-27-15, 00:28
Trying to hook up with this one now.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/let-me-rub-you-downpunkin/7825431I tried to see her once. She declined me, for some reason I can't remember. But once she found out 2 of her friends were seeing me on the regular, she was ready to see me then. I ended up declining her invite.
LuckyGandor
11-27-15, 04:54
Trying to hook up with this one now.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/let-me-rub-you-downpunkin/7825431How'd it go? I remember reading a report she's shady as fuck.
Stewie Griffin
11-27-15, 08:41
How'd it go? I remember reading a report she's shady as fuck.I declined after she quoted me $150 for the half hour.
I declined after she quoted me $150 for the half hour.You might have saved yourself some disappointment too. As I look through dozens of her pics I noticed she doesn't show past her face and breast. A sign that she is big in her bottom half or completely out of shape.
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Sick of the bullshit on here, just delete my fucking account. You don't care if anyone catches anything. I will not be back.
I'll give you another chance and then I will retire your account. Perhaps you missed the part that said EXCEPT when substantiated by links to internet accessible public records.
Perhaps you don't know what except means. See people can do that, they just can't do it without being able to prove it.
Here it's like this,
Ladies of Jacksonville, I've had SEVERAL girls write me to tell me that Jaxguyrr has what really looks like herpes sores on his dick. They told me that he says he cut himself shaving but they all said it really looked like he had herpes to them. They all recommended that if you see him you should make him double up on the condoms and no BBBJ under any circumstances.
I'm not saying he has it, just saying they said it sure looks like he does.
Now, how hard would it be for you to get a BBBJ in Jacksonville if this wasn't a training example.
Here's another question; how many chicks are going to read this, then forget it was a training example even though I'm saying its not true but they will remember your handle and the word herpes and only give you a handy while they are wearing playtex gloves?
You can say it, you just have to be able to prove it with an impartial record.
I realize telling you is a waste of time, I understand that regardless that the facts are 100% against your position you will continue to believe that people can't give LEGITIMATE STD warnings here but some other reasonable people may see the sense behind the rule.
A2
PS, on the not being back part, my money says you will. You will also be welcomed when you do.
Dawg! I read through the last 100 and something of your 400 plus post and noticed sometime. You only mentioned seeing one provider named Pandora in Pensacola threads. Your not a monger your a commentator at best. You can't pay for a provider to give you a bone, Dawg? If you going to come at me for a provider. At least be puzzy whipped from her. Maybe she will give you a freebie or discount for stooge.
CB1.
Dawgleg =JTM (reloaded).Yo dude, I was drinking, thought you would have recognized that from my slurred, pointless, never ending keyboard chatter. You seem like a person who can accept that.
Seems like something I said hit home with you, 100 of my pervious post. Your my only fan.
My real world persona is not even close to my online actions, I can't be loose lipped any where in the real world.
But, I have seen where you can't buy a BBBJ. Me I just walk out when that happens, but I also respectfully donate when the girl can perform, and that's rare.
You can't beat me, can't outsmart me, outwit me, school me, whatever you think you got it won't work with me, I'm not here for those reasons. I'm not implying that your intelligence is superior I'm just not here to challenge or judge. (See below).
Caressa, I think that she is somewhat different then most, I think others do also, and in your trashing of her looks post of her you even admitted that you may get flamed for the opinion. My only point was that in your CBJ only status and your CL history that maybe you should not be so judgemental.
100 post though, maybe I have tried 10 times I guess and have been successful of half of that or so, maybe in the last year, really who cares, I go when I'm ready and attempt to inform others of my experience when it happens, some through private mail.
This is a never ending debate, really, I could go on for ever but to no end, I concede to beers and entertainment value, I don't come here for intellectual conversation, really and I mean really, I am here just to have fun with you guys, there's a part of this that we all have in common. For me I wish I would have not posted that toward your name, sry,.
I'll be in and out of jax for a while, the girls love me, I stay anonymous first and foremost. I am a member of 411 and date-check. But I'm nobody and that's the way I prefer.
Maybe we should compare bank accounts or dick size next
"On a side note" do not insult Pandora, I was her first review, it's not been easy in this area to find someone as friendly n willing as she is. I don't hang with just anybody. She's special.
Yo dude, I was drinking, thought you would have recognized that from my slurred, pointless, never ending keyboard chatter. You seem like a person who can accept that.
Seems like something I said hit home with you, 100 of my pervious post. Your my only fan.
My real world persona is not even close to my online actions, I can't be loose lipped any where in the real world.
But, I have seen where you can't buy a BBBJ. Me I just walk out when that happens, but I also respectfully donate when the girl can perform, and that's rare.
You can't beat me, can't outsmart me, outwit me, school me, whatever you think you got it won't work with me, I'm not here for those reasons. I'm not implying that your intelligence is superior I'm just not here to challenge or judge. (See below).
Caressa, I think that she is somewhat different then most, I think others do also, and in your trashing of her looks post of her you even admitted that you may get flamed for the opinion. My only point was that in your CBJ only status and your CL history that maybe you should not be so judgemental.
100 post though, maybe I have tried 10 times I guess and have been successful of half of that or so, maybe in the last year, really who cares, I go when I'm ready and attempt to inform others of my experience when it happens, some through private mail.
This is a never ending debate, really, I could go on for ever but to no end, I concede to beers and entertainment value, I don't come here for intellectual conversation, really and I mean really, I am here just to have fun with you guys, there's a part of this that we all have in common. For me I wish I would have not posted that toward your name, sry,.
I'll be in and out of jax for a while, the girls love me, I stay anonymous first and foremost. I am a member of 411 and date-check. But I'm nobody and that's the way I prefer.
Maybe we should compare bank accounts or dick size next
"On a side note" do not insult Pandora, I was her first review, it's not been easy in this area to find someone as friendly n willing as she is. I don't hang with just anybody. She's special.I don't have a CBJ only policy. CBJ is like taking a shower with your clothes on.
I don't have a problem with Caressa. Just judging her from what I see, heard and read. That is what we do here on this site. She is selling herself as a product and service in her ad. Products and services get judged compared and reviewed. Take the good with the bad.
I never bashed Pandora. Never mentioned one negative thing about her. Never even heard of her til I read your post history.
You say that Caressa is different from most providers. To really be objective you would have to spend at least the same amount of time getting to know them as you have with her. I have spent time with several providers on a personal level. Most are just young women who made poor choices which lead to bad habits that became expensive to support.
CBJ.
Oh yea. You said "Maybe we should compare bank accounts or dick size next" . Last time you asked me what size is my dick. Are you really that curious about another man's penis? Are you that guy that doesn't face forward at the public urinals. Can't help but peek over to see what the next man is working with? Bet you start a conversation while peeing as a diversion to catch a glimpse. LOL.
Here comes the stories, would you like to see it? LOL I believe my girlfriend would say something if there was anything on it and there is not. I was called and told about your comment, so since you want to make your accusations go ahead and delete the account because I have seen this go down too many times and I will not participate in the back and forth. I do not want another chance. Now the question is since I am leaving will you actually act as a grown up and not continue story telling, or be a grown up, delete it and take the high road and end it? I guess we shall see. Good bye.
Sure, as soon as you actually leave. That's the thing, you're not leaving. What you're doing is responding with untruths, which continues the discussion, then accusing me of continuing the discussion. I didn't slander you, well that's obvious by definition, slander involves speech. Since it was written, if I did anything it was libel except, and this is the important bit so have somebody explain it to you, maybe the girlfriend, I said several times that it wasn't true and that I was using it as an example for teaching.
If you want this to end, just stop writing. It's pretty simple, when you're not trying to get in my face like this you don't cross my mind, you're really not that important to me.
I'm gonna move this to The Woodshed.
A2
Jaxguyrr;2699391 Deleted by Admin.
Sick of the bullshit on here, just delete my fucking account. You don't care if anyone catches anything. I will not be back.
I'll give you another chance and then I will retire your account. Perhaps you missed the part that said EXCEPT when substantiated by links to internet accessible public records.
Perhaps you don't know what except means. See people can do that, they just can't do it without being able to prove it.
Here it's like this.
Ladies of Jacksonville, I've had SEVERAL girls write me to tell me that Jaxguyrr has what really looks like herpes sores on his dick. They told me that he says he cut himself shaving but they all said it really looked like he had herpes to them. They all recommended that if you see him you should make him double up on the condoms and no BBBJ under any circumstances.
I'm not saying he has it, just saying they said it sure looks like he does.
Now, how hard would it be for you to get a BBBJ in Jacksonville if this wasn't a training example.
Here's another question; how many chicks are going to read this, then forget it was a training example even though I'm saying its not true but they will remember your handle and the word herpes and only give you a handy while they are wearing playtex gloves?
You can say it, you just have to be able to prove it with an impartial record.
I realize telling you is a waste of time, I understand that regardless that the facts are 100% against your position you will continue to believe that people can't give LEGITIMATE STD warnings here but some other reasonable people may see the sense behind the rule.
A2.
P.S., on the not being back part, my money says you will. You will also be welcomed when you do.
I don't have a CBJ only policy. CBJ is like taking a shower with your clothes on.
I don't have a problem with Caressa. Just judging her from what I see, heard and read. That is what we do here on this site. She is selling herself as a product and service in her ad. Products and services get judged compared and reviewed. Take the good with the bad.
I never bashed Pandora. Never mentioned one negative thing about her. Never even heard of her til I read your post history.
You say that Caressa is different from most providers. To really be objective you would have to spend at least the same amount of time getting to know them as you have with her. I have spent time with several providers on a personal level. Most are just young women who made poor choices which lead to bad habits that became expensive to support.
CBJ.
Oh yea. You said "Maybe we should compare bank accounts or dick size next" . Last time you asked me what size is my dick. Are you really that curious about another man's penis? Are you that guy that doesn't face forward at the public urinals. Can't help but peek over to see what the next man is working with? Bet you start a conversation while peeing as a diversion to catch a glimpse. LOL.Way to funny, I do find myself looking straight forward at the rest stops, (maybe I have deeper issues LOL) it use to be shake it twice and your playing with it, I swear I could shake for fifteen minutes now. Sry I started this I just get bored. The Caressa girl, hope it works out for her I'm a sucker for how crummy things can get, feel like I can help but in reality I cannot.
Way to funny, I do find myself looking straight forward at the rest stops, (maybe I have deeper issues LOL) it use to be shake it twice and your playing with it, I swear I could shake for fifteen minutes now. Sry I started this I just get bored. The Caressa girl, hope it works out for her I'm a sucker for how crummy things can get, feel like I can help but in reality I cannot.One thing I have learned is that every hooker has a sad story to tell. You not going to hear about the good guys they passed up to for the bad boy. Or the lack of motivation because they were used to getting by off looks. Now let's look at the bright side of being a hooker. What other job can a regular chick make 200 an hour. Even a SWan makes 20 for about a 5 minute blow. Well above minimum wage.
Now here is what's important. What they do with that money. Easy money doesn't have the same value as hard earned money to most folks. Fast money spends even faster. That's why we don't hear about too many providers retiring out the business. With the type of money most make daily if they didn't put it in their nose, lungs or veins then they would be living somewhere other than a motel or trap house. This does not apply to all providers. Just the majority here in Jax.
One thing I have learned is that every hooker has a sad story to tell. You not going to hear about the good guys they passed up to for the bad boy. Or the lack of motivation because they were used to getting by off looks. Now let's look at the bright side of being a hooker. What other job can a regular chick make 200 an hour. Even a SWan makes 20 for about a 5 minute blow. Well above minimum wage.
Now here is what's important. What they do with that money. Easy money doesn't have the same value as hard earned money to most folks. Fast money spends even faster. That's why we don't hear about too many providers retiring out the business. With the type of money most make daily if they didn't put it in their nose, lungs or veins then they would be living somewhere other than a motel or trap house. This does not apply to all providers. Just the majority here in Jax.Well said CB1, I myself find that money I've gotten via means other than my everyday job, I. E. Dividends, gambling, etc. Etc. Seems to slip through my fingers rather quickly, typically right into the hands of a favorite provider. JD.
You might need glasses. Where I'd you read that walk down the road and get something for free. But I would say is that I have been taken care of by a few SWs that I have seen frequently. There is no reason for me to lie about any of this. I write about most things just because it's a good way for me to look back on the time I spent in this hobby when I decide to walk away from it. I would be more than glad to give you my "hobby name" and you can ask a any of the SWs who have seen me about anything written.
But I don't have to prove anything. I'm not going to lie about pushy that I can buy. That's pointless. But what you don't realize is that providers are still women. The same way the charge men. Their are men who see them for free.
Their are several senior mongers that I communicate with frequently. You would be surprised what is not written. Who has had sex for free. Or gone on dates. Overnight stays and so on with these same providers who the vast majority pay, play and then send guys on your way. This forum seem to think that any dudes who are seen around a provider are pimps, DBs, and management. You ever think that these girls might get lonely sitting in some motel room all day waiting on strangers to call? That dude seen hanging around might be a friend or fwb that she enjoys company so he spends some time with her. I know for a fact because I been in that situation several times. I'm sure their are plenty of mongers that have stories of the time a provider that went past the pay date. Just because you might not have been in that situation or have that kinda luck don't mean it's not possible or doesn't happen. Might just mean your fat and ugly or have the personality of a tree stump. Who knows. LOL.
Member #5209
12-09-15, 15:21
You might need glasses. Where I'd you read that walk down the road and get something for free. But I would say is that I have been taken care of by a few SWs that I have seen frequently. There is no reason for me to lie about any of this. I write about most things just because it's a good way for me to look back on the time I spent in this hobby when I decide to walk away from it. I would be more than glad to give you my "hobby name" and you can ask a any of the SWs who have seen me about anything written.
But I don't have to prove anything. I'm not going to lie about pushy that I can buy. That's pointless. But what you don't realize is that providers are still women. The same way the charge men. Their are men who see them for free.
Their are several senior mongers that I communicate with frequently. You would be surprised what is not written. Who has had sex for free. Or gone on dates. Overnight stays and so on with these same providers who the vast majority pay, play and then send guys on your way. This forum seem to think that any dudes who are seen around a provider are pimps, DBs, and management. You ever think that these girls might get lonely sitting in some motel room all day waiting on strangers to call? That dude seen hanging around might be a friend or fwb that she enjoys company so he spends some time with her. I know for a fact because I been in that situation several times. I'm sure their are plenty of mongers that have stories of the time a provider that went past the pay date. Just because you might not have been in that situation or have that kinda luck don't mean it's not possible or doesn't happen. Might just mean your fat and ugly or have the personality of a tree stump. Who knows. LOL.I agree with your statement 100%. Some of these ladies, and yes I said ladies are very trustworthy and don't mind having a friend when they are in town. I have spent time with a couple in my Years of mongering and have recieved the benefits of being a friend. I am in no way management or a db but I have been invited to just chill and be a friend during down time. If you show respect you get respect. Not every girl can deem this respect but there still are a few. Some aren't dope fiends and truly enjoy a caring ear.
LuckyGandor
12-10-15, 18:22
I imagine someone has had an experience with a clinger. After the date, won't stop texting about a future date or just basically beg you to come by (I. E. : wants money). What do you usually do in response? Ignore until the clinger moves onto the next victim or tell the clinger to stop texting?
I just don't want to find out the clinger is a psycho and push the buttons too much.
YoungRestless
12-10-15, 18:36
I imagine someone has had an experience with a clinger. After the date, won't stop texting about a future date or just basically beg you to come by (I. E. : wants money). What do you usually do in response? Ignore until the clinger moves onto the next victim or tell the clinger to stop texting?
I just don't want to find out the clinger is a psycho and push the buttons too much.You're such a stud and she just can't get enough of ya!
LuckyGandor
12-10-15, 18:37
You're such a stud and she just can't get enough of ya!Haha yeah no.
Alley From Cin
12-10-15, 23:16
I imagine someone has had an experience with a clinger. After the date, won't stop texting about a future date or just basically beg you to come by (I. E. : wants money). What do you usually do in response? Ignore until the clinger moves onto the next victim or tell the clinger to stop texting?
I just don't want to find out the clinger is a psycho and push the buttons too much.We got a stage five clinger. I said a stage five clinger. LOL (wedding crashers) sorry I couldn't resist. But I have been away a while and so curious what is the woodshed?
We got a stage five clinger. I said a stage five clinger. LOL (wedding crashers) sorry I couldn't resist. But I have been away a while and so curious what is the woodshed?The woodshed is where you take stuff that don't necessarily belong in the other threads. Like an arena for a dispute between mongers or a place to be social.
Since you're here Alley, I was wondering if you would post better pics in the classifieds. You have 2 face pics and 1 partial body pic. For the mongers who know or have seen you before that may be enough to get them to pull the trigger. But for those of us who have been catfished by providers we may need more of a visual to even get it out the holster. Also rates would be a nice see in your ad.
I imagine someone has had an experience with a clinger. After the date, won't stop texting about a future date or just basically beg you to come by (I. E. : wants money). What do you usually do in response? Ignore until the clinger moves onto the next victim or tell the clinger to stop texting?
I just don't want to find out the clinger is a psycho and push the buttons too much.You can't just block the number?
If not, you could just say something like "I don't think I'll be able to come see you anytime soon. I'll let you know if that changes. " Both true, and relatively unlikely to unleash anyone's inner psycho.
Alley From Cin
12-11-15, 16:16
The woodshed is where you take stuff that don't necessarily belong in the other threads. Like an arena for a dispute between mongers or a place to be social.
Since you're here Alley, I was wondering if you would post better pics in the classifieds. You have 2 face pics and 1 partial body pic. For the mongers who know or have seen you before that may be enough to get them to pull the trigger. But for those of us who have been catfished by providers we may need more of a visual to even get it out the holster. Also rates would be a nice see in your ad.You are right I should add some. I'm currently driving to work at the moment so I can't do it right now but I will do so tonight when I get off.
Not really a review since I didn't go see her but thought I'd throw it out there.
Contacted her and within moments she was just a beotch.
Only asked a few questions and was informed she has plenty of clients and told me I could not read.
Maybe one of you guys will find her worth walking on eggshells for but not me.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/violet-gorgeous-co-ed-young-and-down-to-earth-come-see-me-upscale-hotel/8405782
YoungRestless
12-11-15, 19:59
Not really a review since I didn't go see her but thought I'd throw it out there.
Contacted her and within moments she was just a beotch.
Only asked a few questions and was informed she has plenty of clients and told me I could not read.
Maybe one of you guys will find her worth walking on eggshells for but not me.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/violet-gorgeous-co-ed-young-and-down-to-earth-come-see-me-upscale-hotel/8405782But I can tell you that her attitude left very little to be desired! I'm glad she is particular about who she sees! She thought I was the one who wrote the review but I told her it couldn't have been me since I don't meet her standards! Besides that, I wasn't trying to meet her anywho! LOL.
LuckyGandor
12-11-15, 20:11
But I can tell you that her attitude left very little to be desired! I'm glad she is particular about who she sees! She thought I was the one who wrote the review but I told her it couldn't have been me since I don't meet her standards! Besides that, I wasn't trying to meet her anywho! LOL.LOL. I saw her post and thought she was pretty cute.
Then I facebooked the phone number. No thanks.
But I can tell you that her attitude left very little to be desired! I'm glad she is particular about who she sees! She thought I was the one who wrote the review but I told her it couldn't have been me since I don't meet her standards! Besides that, I wasn't trying to meet her anywho! LOL.My review that is not really a review. LOL.
And yeah, attitude is the fastest way to turn me off. Funny enough the few questions I present to providers usually does a good job of weeding them out pretty quick.
Her pricing should warrant a little better customer service.
YoungRestless
12-12-15, 04:04
My review that is not really a review. LOL.
And yeah, attitude is the fastest way to turn me off. Funny enough the few questions I present to providers usually does a good job of weeding them out pretty quick.
Her pricing should warrant a little better customer service.Possibly next week, she might use different pix's and a different phone number too so be on the lookout!
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Can't post PM's brother, I will however look into it.
A2
Whoever that was, was becoming a thorn in my side.
For you Mongers who have no idea what's going on, I'm going to throw in an excerpt from the original post w / some changes. Is that okay, A2? If it isn't, I'll cease and desist.
From the original post (w / changes):
If I was to venture a wild guess, I would say this individual who had PMed me expressing their disapproval of my activities, was that of my favorite witch, trying to claw out at me from her imminent demise; Or it can be one of her thug-pimp associates doing her dirty work, since she's probably too inept and too busy rippin off Mongers or consuming candy.
I seriously hope it isn't a fellow Monger who's trying to defend Sassy's honor- if she even has any. If it is, hey!, give me a friendly PM. Then I'll turn around and just utilize the Ignore option.
Lest we forget, I've attached her vid again. Busted 1000 views and I'm enjoying watching the number grow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2pLk02-VY
Be Safe & Happy Holidays Co0 per! Here's putting it in your po0 per! Jr and I will be looking for you on PH when you've reached rock bottom and graduated to a SWan. You'll be mouth-jacking for a Jack along w / Kate who is cold and lonely.
-PB.
Whoever that was, was becoming a thorn in my side.
For you Mongers who have no idea what's going on, I'm going to throw in an excerpt from the original post w / some changes. Is that okay, A2? If it isn't, I'll cease and desist.
From the original post (w / changes):
If I was to venture a wild guess, I would say this individual who had PMed me expressing their disapproval of my activities, was that of my favorite witch, trying to claw out at me from her imminent demise; Or it can be one of her thug-pimp associates doing her dirty work, since she's probably too inept and too busy rippin off Mongers or consuming candy.
I seriously hope it isn't a fellow Monger who's trying to defend Sassy's honor- if she even has any. If it is, hey!, give me a friendly PM. Then I'll turn around and just utilize the Ignore option.
Lest we forget, I've attached her vid again. Busted 1000 views and I'm enjoying watching the number grow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2pLk02-VY
Be Safe & Happy Holidays Co0 per! Here's putting it in your po0 per! Jr and I will be looking for you on PH when you've reached rock bottom and graduated to a SWan. You'll be mouth-jacking for a Jack along w / Kate who is cold and lonely.
-PB.That's some funny shit right there.
Can't you tell by the hint of Asian in the girl on pornhub? Man, I didn't know Jackie got down like that! I'm not sure if her body still looks like that but I can tell it is her. I was thinking of a girl by the name of Stephanie when I initially said I recognized her but the other reviewer made me realize they are 2 different girls. For some time, I know she was asking for 100 but I'm assuming now, she wants more.I call bullshit. Kim / Jackie is not the girl in the porn. Don't look at the videos, Google Tii and look at all her pics. Jackie has posted several pics over the years. None even look close to as good as the porn star. And if it was her she would have used her porn star status for commercial purposes. These hookers at very pretentious.
YoungRestless
12-17-15, 09:35
I call bullshit. Kim / Jackie is not the girl in the porn. Don't look at the videos, Google Tii and look at all her pics. Jackie has posted several pics over the years. None even look close to as good as the porn star. And if it was her she would have used her porn star status for commercial purposes. These hookers at very pretentious.
But this girl definitely looks like Jackie Daniels to me and I'm not the only one who sees that. Just because she doesn't advertise it for commercial purposes does not mean it isn't her. I've seen girls advertise for basic BP services who either did some porn or even has great reviews and such yet, not make reference to their reviews and the fact that they've done porn. It doesn't make since to me why they wouldn't use it as a way of getting more money BUT I guess they have their reasons for not doing so. I've even asked some girls (regarding reviews I've incidentally found) why they don't reference their reviews in their ad's like the ones on "ThE otheR" site and many times I don't get a satisfactory answer. Go figure! To me, reviews are like good reference letters. Anyhow, it looks to be a time when Jackie looked a lot better versus her more recent pix so don't forget about this fact. She was probably a little younger and fresher too boo. Anyway, don't know if I'd call it bullshet just yet!
You all be the judge!
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-beauty/5771533
http://tubecucumber.com/en/videos3154390/tii-an-oiled-up-latina-teen-ass.html
But this girl definitely looks like Jackie Daniels to me and I'm not the only one who sees that... Anyhow, it looks to be a time when Jackie looked a lot better versus her more recent pix so don't forget about this fact. She was probably a little younger and fresher too boo. Anyway, don't know if I'd call it bullshet just yet!
You all be the judge!
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-beauty/5771533
http://tubecucumber.com/en/videos3154390/tii-an-oiled-up-latina-teen-ass.htmlIf you look at the BP ad, bottom right, she is smiling and you can see a missing / chipped tooth on the right side of her mouth. The girl in the video has the same issue.
But this girl definitely looks like Jackie Daniels to me and I'm not the only one who sees that. Just because she doesn't advertise it for commercial purposes does not mean it isn't her. I've seen girls advertise for basic BP services who either did some porn or even has great reviews and such yet, not make reference to their reviews and the fact that they've done porn. It doesn't make since to me why they wouldn't use it as a way of getting more money BUT I guess they have their reasons for not doing so. I've even asked some girls (regarding reviews I've incidentally found) why they don't reference their reviews in their ad's like the ones on "ThE otheR" site and many times I don't get a satisfactory answer. Go figure! To me, reviews are like good reference letters. Anyhow, it looks to be a time when Jackie looked a lot better versus her more recent pix so don't forget about this fact. She was probably a little younger and fresher too boo. Anyway, don't know if I'd call it bullshet just yet!
You all be the judge!
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/asian-beauty/5771533
http://tubecucumber.com/en/videos3154390/tii-an-oiled-up-latina-teen-ass.htmlI found her first modeling pics. No make up. I stand corrected.
You win playa. Just please don't call me boo again. Unless you want to cuddle wit me. LOL.
YoungRestless
12-17-15, 14:28
If you look at the BP ad, bottom right, she is smiling and you can see a missing / chipped tooth on the right side of her mouth. The girl in the video has the same issue.Superman vision! I thought it was her or the girl has a twin sister out there. I'm thinking she may have done the videos at a time when she was younger and fresher looking. Anyway, she's a hawt little number! Thanks for the x-ray vision; so to speak!
I call bullshit. Kim / Jackie is not the girl in the porn. Don't look at the videos, Google Tii and look at all her pics. Jackie has posted several pics over the years. None even look close to as good as the porn star. And if it was her she would have used her porn star status for commercial purposes. These hookers at very pretentious.I've been told I was mistaken before & perhaps I was, but I have never been called a liar on this board before. If I actually gave a shit, I might be offended.
It is her. I was seeing her when she did the porn & she looked just like that then. I see her now & yes, she is a little older & a bit slimmer now. She laughs when I mention the porn but never has seemed inclined to want to trade off it or, for that matter, to get much into the whole review thing. Makes her feel vulnerable & exposed, so I have heeded her wishes & enjoyed being a regular. I chimed in by way of endorsement & because I know she needs a little extra help these days.
But what do I know, huh?
YoungRestless
12-17-15, 16:46
I've been told I was mistaken before & perhaps I was, but I have never been called a liar on this board before. If I actually gave a shit, I might be offended.
It is her. I was seeing her when she did the porn & she looked just like that then. I see her now & yes, she is a little older & a bit slimmer now. She laughs when I mention the porn but never has seemed inclined to want to trade off it or, for that matter, to get much into the whole review thing. Makes her feel vulnerable & exposed, so I have heeded her wishes & enjoyed being a regular. I chimed in by way of endorsement & because I know she needs a little extra help these days.
But what do I know, huh?That video was done years ago.
PB that was priceless kimosabe!! I got a kick out of that story. Too f-in funny. Yes sir. Karma is a *****. I wonder if she enjoyed the clown music as much as I did. Ohh to be a fly on the wall as she watched that video. Too goddamn funny. Good work! Tonto out.
PB that was priceless kimosabe!! I got a kick out of that story. Too f-in funny. Yes sir. Karma is a *****. I wonder if she enjoyed the clown music as much as I did. Ohh to be a fly on the wall as she watched that video. Too goddamn funny. Good work! Tonto out.Thanks Tonto! If you could have only heard the conversation. The broken sadness in her voice & the desperation of trying to regain some dignity. To top it off w / me sounding seriously interested only to hang up on her. I HAD to hang up and end convo; it was too much too bear tryin to keep a serious & sincere voice. Yeah, I get the feeling that her notoriety is getting the bed of her. I think karma kicked her ass and she knows it. LOL.
The video was just the cake & the clown music was the icing & the acquired snaps of her was the decorative pieces that made this cake so sweet & delicious.
Contemplating doing a vid on our shysting witches Mandy & Nikki. Its just formulating thought for right now.
BSHM Tonto! Glad to have given some holiday cheer.
-PB.
YoungRestless
12-19-15, 02:52
Gents,
On the BP thread, there's a discussion about where LEO does sting operations. While I do agree that, typically, stings are done in motels and on street corners, I don't want you guys to walk away with a false sense of security thinking they won't do them in residences as well. Generally speaking, we hear stings taking place in, as I said, motels and street corners but I caution everyone to always be careful because they (LEO) can change it up from time to time. To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, I will say one name and he's a host of a very famous show where all they do is stings out of residential homes and his name is Chris Hanson. Need I say more as far as what he does and where his show takes place.
Obviously it would make sense to do these particular aforementioned stings out of residential homes because of the types of guys LEOs are targeting, but it still points to the fact that LEO has the resources to obtain and use a residential home to launch its sting operations. In other words, don't let your guards totally down just because, in most cases, stings take place in usual venues (motels / streets) bcuz they will switch it up on you. Years ago I remember hearing one of JSO's finest talk to a reporter about how prostitution has changed. In other words with the advent of the internet, he was saying prostitution has gone underground, so to speak, and not happening as much on street corners. The girls even work from phones now which was unheard of years ago. You had to pretty much know their usual spots if you wanted to see them. Anyway, for this reason, he said they were going to have to use, in effect, nontraditional techniques to catch wrongdoers. This has always stuck to my mind when he said that and this is one reason I say to be on guard each and every time no matter where you are or who you plan on seeing. Of course one of the safest ways, to a degree, is to have a girl come to your home but of course that has its own inherent risk (i.e., she scopes out the goods in your home and come back with ole DB when you're not there to rob you; remember, we're dealing with drug addicts).
Also, there was a time I always thought LEO would never put a vice-female cop in the room with a Joe unless it was one of those hotels with connecting rooms (LEO would usually hide in the adjoining room) but the LEO female I visited at the hotel off Baymeadows didn't have an adjoining or connecting room which I thought was strange but it happens. Sometimes their only access point to the room is through the main door entrance which they usually come in once the undercover gives the code word. Again, something to watch out for. I can't emphasize it enough, they will switch shet up on us! Be ALERT! Just my $0. 02.
YoungRestless
12-19-15, 04:11
Gents,
On the BP thread, there's a discussion about where LEO does sting operations. While I do agree that, typically, stings are done in motels and on street corners, I don't want you guys to walk away with a false sense of security thinking they won't do them in residences as well. Generally speaking, we hear stings taking place in, as I said, motels and street corners but I caution everyone to always be careful because they (LEO) can change it up from time to time. To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, I will say one name and he's a host of a very famous show where all they do is stings out of residential homes and his name is Chris Hanson. Need I say more as far as what he does and where his show takes place.
Obviously it would make sense to do these particular aforementioned stings out of residential homes because of the types of guys LEOs are targeting, but it still points to the fact that LEO has the resources to obtain and use a residential home to launch its sting operations. In other words, don't let your guards totally down just because, in most cases, stings take place in usual venues (motels / streets) bcuz they will switch it up on you. Years ago I remember hearing one of JSO's finest talk to a reporter about how prostitution has changed. In other words with the advent of the internet, he was saying prostitution has gone underground, so to speak, and not happening as much on street corners. The girls even work from phones now which was unheard of years ago. You had to pretty much know their usual spots if you wanted to see them. Anyway, for this reason, he said they were going to have to use, in effect, nontraditional techniques to catch wrongdoers. This has always stuck to my mind when he said that and this is one reason I say to be on guard each and every time no matter where you are or who you plan on seeing. Of course one of the safest ways, to a degree, is to have a girl come to your home but of course that has its own inherent risk (i.e., she scopes out the goods in your home and come back with ole DB when you're not there to rob you; remember, we're dealing with drug addicts).
Also, there was a time I always thought LEO would never put a vice-female cop in the room with a Joe unless it was one of those hotels with connecting rooms (LEO would usually hide in the adjoining room) but the LEO female I visited at the hotel off Baymeadows didn't have an adjoining or connecting room which I thought was strange but it happens. Sometimes their only access point to the room is through the main door entrance which they usually come in once the undercover gives the code word. Again, something to watch out for. I can't emphasize it enough, they will switch shet up on us! Be ALERT! Just my $0. 02.Instead of using a home, LEO rented an apartment, instead, from October to March. You'll also notice how LEO talked about hooking moving from the streets to the internet and much more. I particularly liked this part in the article:
"Precautions taken
Some women appeared leery of being arrested. One issued an Internet warning to other prostitutes after she became suspicious of the clients at the Seeley Road apartment. After that, police moved to a Park Street apartment covered by the same lease agreement."
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/06/syracuse_police_sting_sheds_li.html
This is another good one where they observe guys going to see a legit prostitute and arrest them as they leave:
https://www.arlnow.com/2012/07/30/confessions-of-a-john-arrested-in-arlington/
Stewie Griffin
12-19-15, 10:13
When I was caught they were actually using the girls apartment who I had made my appointment with.
Which is why I like them to come to me. But then also like you said, they know where you live, what you have, etc. But luckily never had a problem.
Gents,
On the BP thread, there's a discussion about where LEO does sting operations. While I do agree that, typically, stings are done in motels and on street corners, I don't want you guys to walk away with a false sense of security thinking they won't do them in residences as well. Generally speaking, we hear stings taking place in, as I said, motels and street corners but I caution everyone to always be careful because they (LEO) can change it up from time to time. To give you an idea of where I'm coming from, I will say one name and he's a host of a very famous show where all they do is stings out of residential homes and his name is Chris Hanson. Need I say more as far as what he does and where his show takes place.
Obviously it would make sense to do these particular aforementioned stings out of residential homes because of the types of guys LEOs are targeting, but it still points to the fact that LEO has the resources to obtain and use a residential home to launch its sting operations. In other words, don't let your guards totally down just because, in most cases, stings take place in usual venues (motels / streets) bcuz they will switch it up on you. Years ago I remember hearing one of JSO's finest talk to a reporter about how prostitution has changed. In other words with the advent of the internet, he was saying prostitution has gone underground, so to speak, and not happening as much on street corners. The girls even work from phones now which was unheard of years ago. You had to pretty much know their usual spots if you wanted to see them. Anyway, for this reason, he said they were going to have to use, in effect, nontraditional techniques to catch wrongdoers. This has always stuck to my mind when he said that and this is one reason I say to be on guard each and every time no matter where you are or who you plan on seeing. Of course one of the safest ways, to a degree, is to have a girl come to your home but of course that has its own inherent risk (i.e., she scopes out the goods in your home and come back with ole DB when you're not there to rob you; remember, we're dealing with drug addicts).
Also, there was a time I always thought LEO would never put a vice-female cop in the room with a Joe unless it was one of those hotels with connecting rooms (LEO would usually hide in the adjoining room) but the LEO female I visited at the hotel off Baymeadows didn't have an adjoining or connecting room which I thought was strange but it happens. Sometimes their only access point to the room is through the main door entrance which they usually come in once the undercover gives the code word. Again, something to watch out for. I can't emphasize it enough, they will switch shet up on us! Be ALERT! Just my $0. 02.
YoungRestless
12-19-15, 13:15
When I was caught they were actually using the girls apartment who I had made my appointment with.
Which is why I like them to come to me. But then also like you said, they know where you live, what you have, etc. But luckily never had a problem.You call an escort on the phone to do an outcall to your home and it goes something like this:
1. Mike: Hi Jenna, are you doing outcalls today?
2. Jenna: Yes I am and it will be $250 for me to come and stay for an hour.
3. Mike: Are you GFE and do you provide BBJs? (as you know, many guys want to know what sex acts a girl will perform for the money they're paying; most girls tell me guys ask sexually explicit questions over the phone; they tell me that if they don't answer these guys questions that the guys won't come; the guys tell them that they're going to see someone else instead; so again, the girls feel compelled to answer).
4. Jenna: Yes I do but if I do an uncovered blowjob, that will cost you another $20; is that a problem?
5. Mike: No, I can handle that.
*So they agree to meet up at a certain time and he provides his address.
6. Jenna: Will there be anyone else in your home besides you? I don't want to get robbed or gang raped! And am I talking to the person who I'll be seeing? (She can say this to ensure that you are the one she's talking to and that you won't try to say it was someone else like a friend who just left).
*So once she gets to your place, mind you, you have already broken the law because you had a discussion about monetary compensation in exchange for a sex act. So in order to get you out of YOUR residence when she comes, she says this:
7. Jenna: Hi, Mike, I'm outside but I prefer you come outside so we can meet before we go into your home. I just want to make sure you're safe and not some serial killer! LOL (so in order to allay her concerns, you come outside to meet her).
*As soon as you come outside, the boys jump out and put you in cuffs!
*She can also say to you, let's meet for coffee at the diner down the street from you and if I feel safe with you, we can go back to your place. Again, another way to get you outside.
Anyway, I know one might say this can never happen or I have such an imagination but as LEO said, they are having to use nontraditional or creative ways to catch people doing these acts now and honestly, this scenario is not that unreasonable when you think about it. I'll just say just make sure you are always flexible in your thinking as LEO is certainly trying to find ways of getting offenders. So in this example, she came to your home and never really had to come inside because you've already implicated yourself. Just something to consider.
You call an escort on the phone to do an outcall to your home and it goes something like this:
1. Mike: Hi Jenna, are you doing outcalls today?
2. Jenna: Yes I am and it will be $250 for me to come and stay for an hour.
3. Mike: Are you GFE and do you provide BBJs? (as you know, many guys want to know what sex acts a girl will perform for the money they're paying; most girls tell me guys ask sexually explicit questions over the phone; they tell me that if they don't answer these guys questions that the guys won't come; the guys tell them that they're going to see someone else instead; so again, the girls feel compelled to answer).
4. Jenna: Yes I do but if I do an uncovered blowjob, that will cost you another $20; is that a problem?
5. Mike: No, I can handle that.
*So they agree to meet up at a certain time and he provides his address.
6. Jenna: Will there be anyone else in your home besides you? I don't want to get robbed or gang raped! And am I talking to the person who I'll be seeing? (She can say this to ensure that you are the one she's talking to and that you won't try to say it was someone else like a friend who just left).
*So once she gets to your place, mind you, you have already broken the law because you had a discussion about monetary compensation in exchange for a sex act. So in order to get you out of YOUR residence when she comes, she says this:
7. Jenna: Hi, Mike, I'm outside but I prefer you come outside so we can meet before we go into your home. I just want to make sure you're safe and not some serial killer! LOL (so in order to allay her concerns, you come outside to meet her).
*As soon as you come outside, the boys jump out and put you in cuffs!
*She can also say to you, let's meet for coffee at the diner down the street from you and if I feel safe with you, we can go back to your place. Again, another way to get you outside.
Anyway, I know one might say this can never happen or I have such an imagination but as LEO said, they are having to use nontraditional or creative ways to catch people doing these acts now and honestly, this scenario is not that unreasonable when you think about it. I'll just say just make sure you are always flexible in your thinking as LEO is certainly trying to find ways of getting offenders. So in this example, she came to your home and never really had to come inside because you've already implicated yourself. Just something to consider.Pretty farfetched in the realm of possibilities. Best thing is to ask if she wants to come hang out. If a girl is being that explicit with her rates and the acts she will perform, I would NEVER go through with it in the first place. RED FLAG!
Stewie Griffin
12-19-15, 17:45
I never discuss anything over the phone and never anything in person, especially the first meeting. Even if I have seen someone 100 times if I got a text saying I need 20 come let me blow you, I would bail. Usually I just get the, hey I would like to see you text. Nice and safe.
In my case I had set up a meeting for a massage a couple of days in advance at her apartment in mayport. The day of she contacted me and asked if I could come early. So I so show up, give her the money for the hour and she tell me to get comfortable and she will be back. I lay down and she comes in says okay I'm going to start and head down to your feet and ill stop in the middle and we will all be happy. She cuaght me off guard with that so I just said okay. And that is when vice came through the door.
I never asked for anything extra, never paid for anything extra. And that is pretty much why they dropped the charges. But you still go to jail, you can not bond out for solicitation, still have to pay for lawyers, and your picture still ends up in the paper.
I saw the girl I went to see while I was in the court room waiting for my turn. Turns out she got busted and then worked with police to bust everyone else she was supposed to see that day.
And remember all it takes is for you to say the wrong thing and they can take you down. I know someone who was joking with a SW who was walking in front of his job while they were taking lunch. She said something like 50 and I can make your lunch better. My friend joking around was like no way to much, she says how much you think iam worth, he says 30 maybe. And that's when the police rolled up and got him for soliciting. Of course they later dropped the charges, but again he had to go through the hassel and almost lost his job. And I have ever of that happening more than once. So you have to be careful just joking around.
You call an escort on the phone to do an outcall to your home and it goes something like this:
1. Mike: Hi Jenna, are you doing outcalls today?
2. Jenna: Yes I am and it will be $250 for me to come and stay for an hour.
3. Mike: Are you GFE and do you provide BBJs? (as you know, many guys want to know what sex acts a girl will perform for the money they're paying; most girls tell me guys ask sexually explicit questions over the phone; they tell me that if they don't answer these guys questions that the guys won't come; the guys tell them that they're going to see someone else instead; so again, the girls feel compelled to answer).
4. Jenna: Yes I do but if I do an uncovered blowjob, that will cost you another $20; is that a problem?
5. Mike: No, I can handle that.
*So they agree to meet up at a certain time and he provides his address.
6. Jenna: Will there be anyone else in your home besides you? I don't want to get robbed or gang raped! And am I talking to the person who I'll be seeing? (She can say this to ensure that you are the one she's talking to and that you won't try to say it was someone else like a friend who just left).
*So once she gets to your place, mind you, you have already broken the law because you had a discussion about monetary compensation in exchange for a sex act. So in order to get you out of YOUR residence when she comes, she says this:
7. Jenna: Hi, Mike, I'm outside but I prefer you come outside so we can meet before we go into your home. I just want to make sure you're safe and not some serial killer! LOL (so in order to allay her concerns, you come outside to meet her).
*As soon as you come outside, the boys jump out and put you in cuffs!
*She can also say to you, let's meet for coffee at the diner down the street from you and if I feel safe with you, we can go back to your place. Again, another way to get you outside.
Anyway, I know one might say this can never happen or I have such an imagination but as LEO said, they are having to use nontraditional or creative ways to catch people doing these acts now and honestly, this scenario is not that unreasonable when you think about it. I'll just say just make sure you are always flexible in your thinking as LEO is certainly trying to find ways of getting offenders. So in this example, she came to your home and never really had to come inside because you've already implicated yourself. Just something to consider.
I never discuss anything over the phone and never anything in person, especially the first meeting. Even if I have seen someone 100 times if I got a text saying I need 20 come let me blow you, I would bail. Usually I just get the, hey I would like to see you text. Nice and safe.
In my case I had set up a meeting for a massage a couple of days in advance at her apartment in mayport. The day of she contacted me and asked if I could come early. So I so show up, give her the money for the hour and she tell me to get comfortable and she will be back. I lay down and she comes in says okay I'm going to start and head down to your feet and ill stop in the middle and we will all be happy. She cuaght me off guard with that so I just said okay. And that is when vice came through the door.
I never asked for anything extra, never paid for anything extra. And that is pretty much why they dropped the charges. But you still go to jail, you can not bond out for solicitation, still have to pay for lawyers, and your picture still ends up in the paper.
I saw the girl I went to see while I was in the court room waiting for my turn. Turns out she got busted and then worked with police to bust everyone else she was supposed to see that day.
And remember all it takes is for you to say the wrong thing and they can take you down. I know someone who was joking with a SW who was walking in front of his job while they were taking lunch. She said something like 50 and I can make your lunch better. My friend joking around was like no way to much, she says how much you think iam worth, he says 30 maybe. And that's when the police rolled up and got him for soliciting. Of course they later dropped the charges, but again he had to go through the hassel and almost lost his job. And I have ever of that happening more than once. So you have to be careful just joking around.Hey Stewie, what was the girls name? JD.
YoungRestless
12-20-15, 10:21
Pretty farfetched in the realm of possibilities. Best thing is to ask if she wants to come hang out. If a girl is being that explicit with her rates and the acts she will perform, I would NEVER go through with it in the first place. RED FLAG!
...not discussing explicit details but the reason I mentioned it is because many of the girls tell me that guys are very explicit with them over the phone. They feel if they don't tell the guys what they want to hear that they'd lose the business to which I tell them, "lose it!" But they're so money hungry. It's not as far fetched as you might think though. These guys (LEO) are in the biz of catching lawbreakers and sometimes they setup sophisticated stings to catch folks. Think about people who have arrest warrants out there. The cops setup some elaborate sting where they send notices to these jokers letting them know they've won a plasma TV or a trip to Europe or whatever. So they tell them they have to come to some place to claim their prize. They unwittingly go to these places and as soon as they show up, they find out they've been hoodwinked as they're getting arrested! Really hilarious! The whole idea is to keep the undercover safe and in the scenario I provided, this is the best way to do it.
If I've figured out a way to keep their undercover safe, you know they've already determined they can do it this way because they certainly wouldn't want her to go into some unknown place. It's not unusual for some providers to want to meet for drinks or coffee before an appt. Some providers prefer this in order to see if there is any chemistry or to see if they can figure out who you are. April, who advertises on BP, likes to meet for drinks and I've known other providers to do the same and there are guys out there who don't mind such meetings. It is very important, as you said, to not be explicit but trust me, there are many guys out there that talk about a lot of crazy things on the phone. LEO will even purposely have explicit conversations with you over the phone just to get you to implicate yourself; at this point, they have audio but when you show up, they do like to get video evidence, if they can. Anyway, very important to always remain vigilant and don't underestimate these folks. I remember looking at a video LEO did where one of their undercovers was driving around in a clown suit looking for SWers! lol and guess what, girls were actually falling for this shet!
Check this shet out! Notice LEO said, we must be creative!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3NO1cWOVx0
YoungRestless
12-20-15, 10:54
I never discuss anything over the phone and never anything in person, especially the first meeting. Even if I have seen someone 100 times if I got a text saying I need 20 come let me blow you, I would bail. Usually I just get the, hey I would like to see you text. Nice and safe.
In my case I had set up a meeting for a massage a couple of days in advance at her apartment in mayport. The day of she contacted me and asked if I could come early. So I so show up, give her the money for the hour and she tell me to get comfortable and she will be back. I lay down and she comes in says okay I'm going to start and head down to your feet and ill stop in the middle and we will all be happy. She cuaght me off guard with that so I just said okay. And that is when vice came through the door.
I never asked for anything extra, never paid for anything extra. And that is pretty much why they dropped the charges. But you still go to jail, you can not bond out for solicitation, still have to pay for lawyers, and your picture still ends up in the paper.
I saw the girl I went to see while I was in the court room waiting for my turn. Turns out she got busted and then worked with police to bust everyone else she was supposed to see that day.
And remember all it takes is for you to say the wrong thing and they can take you down. I know someone who was joking with a SW who was walking in front of his job while they were taking lunch. She said something like 50 and I can make your lunch better. My friend joking around was like no way to much, she says how much you think iam worth, he says 30 maybe. And that's when the police rolled up and got him for soliciting. Of course they later dropped the charges, but again he had to go through the hassel and almost lost his job. And I have ever of that happening more than once. So you have to be careful just joking around.Sometimes I tell girls when an undercover ask you to so something sexually, you know how some people, if they're kind of irritated might say, "yea, whatever!" It is responses like this that can jam you up. You have to be as clear as you possibly can be. I was asked by an undercover, "you did say over the telephone that you were interested in full service?" I paused and thought about what she had said to me and IMMEDIATELY I said (knowing this conversation might be recorded), "no, you must be mistaken as I never said that; you must have me mixed up with someone else. " She asked me all these sexually explicit questions and I basically stuck to the story of you are not going to touch me; all I want is for you to model for me in lingerie and we are not going to have sex because I don't want to catch any diseases, etc. I was saying any and everything I knew that could exonerate me if they decided to take me to jail anyway. So you are certainly correct, you have to GUARD the words coming out of your mouth because one Freudian Slip will fruck you up!
Guys, these ladies will turn on you and LEO do use them from time to time! Whenever you are asked anything from an unknown or known provider, pause before answering and ask yourself, "what I'm getting ready to say, can my own words implicate me in this matter?" If the answer is yes, don't say it! Don't be so quick to answer to anything!
YoungRestless
12-20-15, 11:14
...who got caught up in a sting that they've been approached by LEO to help them in stings. Not just prostitution stings but also to help them catch their drug boys and such. Some of them say they wouldn't do it because the amount of money they can make hooking is too good to mess up their reputation. Sure, a defense attorney can discount the young lady's testimony, providing LEO didn't setup listening and video devices in the room to validate what transpired in that situation. Taking her word alone can be problematic but again, having a good audio / visual system in place can be the hurt of you.
Remember though, don't be so focused on the fact that prostitution is just a misdemeanor crime because typically when LEO does these stings, people get more than prostitution charges. They get people, in these stings, for drugs, outstanding warrants, pimping, ladies bringing their little ones to these stings (stupid), sex trafficking, etc. If it was just prostitution by itself, that might be one thing, but LEO is looking to score bigger points than just simple prostitution. And also remember, it is not uncommon for police officers to use civilians to help them take down criminals- this is why they call them informants! A certified prostitute can work in this same capacity! Remember also, people have been implicated in crimes because when those jokers were in jail, they ran their mouth to another jailbird who told the prosecutors about it and not only did the snitch get a reduced sentence, but the stupid diarrhea of the mouth criminal got got! LOL
The Preacher
12-20-15, 11:46
...who got caught up in a sting that they've been approached by LEO to help them in stings. Not just prostitution stings but also to help them catch their drug boys and such. Some of them say they wouldn't do it because the amount of money they can make hooking is too good to mess up their reputation. Sure, a defense attorney can discount the young lady's testimony, providing LEO didn't setup listening and video devices in the room to validate what transpired in that situation. Taking her word alone can be problematic but again, having a good audio / visual system in place can be the hurt of you.
Remember though, don't be so focused on the fact that prostitution is just a misdemeanor crime because typically when LEO does these stings, people get more than prostitution charges. They get people, in these stings, for drugs, outstanding warrants, pimping, ladies bringing their little ones to these stings (stupid), sex trafficking, etc. If it was just prostitution by itself, that might be one thing, but LEO is looking to score bigger points than just simple prostitution. And also remember, it is not uncommon for police officers to use civilians to help them take down criminals- this is why they call them informants! A certified prostitute can work in this same capacity! Remember also, people have been implicated in crimes because when those jokers were in jail, they ran their mouth to another jailbird who told the prosecutors about it and not only did the snitch get a reduced sentence, but the stupid diarrhea of the mouth criminal got got! LOLYesh the prostitution charge, though potentially life ruining, is not my biggest fear. It's what would happen if the provider just happens to have a significant stash of drugs in the room. Which I've personally seen before. To get caught up in a drug bust would be horrible.
RedSoxFan28
12-20-15, 12:03
Wow, all this discussion is really good but also shines some reality. You guys ever find it hard to stop doing these type of activities? I said I was only going to do it once. That certainly failed and I'm looking for my meeting. The little head sure knows how to persuade me.
Stewie Griffin
12-20-15, 14:56
Hey Stewie, what was the girls name? JD.I could not even tell you. I have no idea. When I got home from jail I went to look and her ad was down, her facebook was down, everything was gone. It was my first meeting with her, and my last. LOL.
I have never been to mayport since. =P.
Am I missing something here? Has the JSO been running on going sting operations other than the occasional run of the mill street walking busts and the "nothing better to do" occupation of calling providers hoping to entrap them into saying and or doing something stupid? If they are it's the first I've heard of it. Looking at recent news reports there was a sting operation conducted with multiple law enforcement agencies across the country which also included JSO in conjunction with the FBI, this happened in October of this year, fifteen people were arrested in Jacksonville, Clay and Nassau county area. How these stings were conducted and who was targeted isn't explained. Sounded to me like a lot of wasted money and effort with not much to show for it. Last year Clay county targeted a few message parlors and other than the occasional police street walking sting and the JSO vice squad targeting prostitutes I can find no other activity on the part of local law enforcement to target men soliciting sex from providers. Now this isn't to say they may not start doing these very things tomorrow! My point is I think there's a major preoccupation on this site with police activity that's completely unwarranted. Of course we all want to be safe from any criminal prosecution that may arise from our participation in an activity that many of us think of as a victim less crime. Personally I would never fuck a provider that I thought was underage or was being forced to do something she didn't want to do. Now women providing me with sexual gratification to support themselves and or their drug habit is totally fair play in my book, it's a choice she's made for herself. I find much of this talk of police targeting and intervention to be a waste of time and energy but hey it's your time and energy that your wasting so have at it. I personally won't be taking part in any more of these discussions until that time I hear there's actual reason to be concerned. It's my hope that local law enforcement agencies continue to find a better use for their budgets and resources. JD.
YoungRestless
12-20-15, 20:36
Yesh the prostitution charge, though potentially life ruining, is not my biggest fear. It's what would happen if the provider just happens to have a significant stash of drugs in the room. Which I've personally seen before. To get caught up in a drug bust would be horrible.
We can't just look at the prostitution charge in and of itself. As you so eloquently mentioned, what about them there drugs! Some guys on here are in professions that if they ever caught a drug charge, especially if their profession requires licensure, you are toast! LEO knows they aren't just going to reel in solicitors. They know that if they can find people willing to engage in one illegal activity, it is likely that those persons are breaking other laws as well. Again, all I'm saying is, be open-minded. Never say what can't happen because as long as LEO can work within the confines of the law, they would do it if it means bringing in more criminals. Personally, I don't have an issue with what LEO does (in this respect) - there are many people (human trafficking) who are forced into prostitution and I am glad someone is out there trying to prevent such things as this. Any who folks, even if LEO only targets Johns who do outcall less than 5% of the time, the million dollar question is, do you want to be a part of that five percent?!
YoungRestless
12-20-15, 20:43
Wow, all this discussion is really good but also shines some reality. You guys ever find it hard to stop doing these type of activities? I said I was only going to do it once. That certainly failed and I'm looking for my meeting. The little head sure knows how to persuade me.
...until you find a way to get out of this thing, think with that brain in your head as much as possible! A criminal record is one of the risk involved and can be extremely damaging in more ways than I can count but we must consider other risk factors. There are Johns who have been robbed, shot, and killed participating in this so-called hobby. So my advice, try to exit the life as soon as you can unless you're ready to deal with its inherent risk. Foremost of all, educate educate educate yourself on the do's and don'ts! You are going to take risk but make sure it's well calculated risk.
YoungRestless
12-20-15, 21:14
...LEO needs to fight more important crimes in our society like murder, drugs, gangs, etc. However consider this, as far as prostitution goes, many of these crimes are associated with it such as murder and drugs, to name a few. There was a gentleman who came to Jax (he was from Ohio) for whatever purpose recently (a professional guy who owned a biz). It appeared that he may have contacted a provider while at his motel. Who knows what transpired or what lead to his unfortunate death but he's dead now; some pimp appears to have shot him! Possibly for involving himself in something that seems as harmless as prostitution. I looked at his social media page and my heart went out to him (because it certainly could have been one of us) and his family. The sad thing is he had just loss his mother a few months before his death. Also, the fact that he left his home to come to another city and die for foolishness, no doubt. Very sad.
Now, some people on here are very astute when it comes to this activity or so-called hobby and they take all the necessary precautions to ensure their safety. BRAVO to you- whoever you are! However, there are many people in this hobby who knows very little about what they must do to keep themselves safe. Therefore it is wonderful (thanks to Admin and company) that they allow such a forum and opportunity for people to have these discussions in a relatively safe setting. I don't want to wait till I get jammed up and then decide that these conversations are paramount! I want to discuss and get educated about it now so that whatsoever risk I undertake, it will be done with calculation and not carelessness or even ignorance. Yes IGNORANCE!
Look, I have had Shetty jobs and I have had great jobs. What determines whether or not you're going to have a great job largely depends on your record. Hence, my desire is to be well informed so that I can always have great job opportunities (and being informed can keep me safe until I can make a clean break from this life without consequences). Let me tell you this too, not only does criminal records prevent you from getting certain jobs but they can affect you as far as getting into certain colleges. Yes! Colleges are now performing criminal background checks! Especially post baccalaureate degree programs. So consider these discussions tools to help people not fruck up their lives for a piece of snatch! Then again, getting a criminal record for prostitution is only one aspect to consider; as I mentioned above, you can die as well! Sometimes they prevent you from getting into certain apartments.
Again, I am going to say BRAVO to those who know so much about this subject matter but you'd also be surprised how much people don't know and they must be educated on how to stay as many steps ahead of LEO as possible. Just my $0. 02.
Lastly, consider this also, Leo is not always going to show their hand in everything they do. Just because it's not in newspapers and such do not mean it didn't happen. Do you think they tell us everything they are doing?
...LEO needs to fight more important crimes...Good advice, info and points to think about.
Now, let me tell y'all something, LEO won't stop you for picking up a SW. Just for that NO, because there's no grounds for an intervention. However, theyll have grounds to stop you if you break transit law. For example, you stop in the middle of the highway or main road where traffic is supposed to flow, you'll get stopped and be prepare to be questioned, her to be questioned, possible car search if he cop gets probable suspicion, etc etc etc. That could be worse than a solicitation charge because if the lady has her medicine on her or if she decides to drop it in your car you'll be in big deep trouble. So if you pick up a SW, drive like a grandma and follow all the transit laws (speed, stops, red lights, etc). A stupid mistake could open the door for LEO to intervene. That's my tip for safe mongering defensive behavior.
YoungRestless
12-20-15, 23:57
Good advice, info and points to think about.
Now, let me tell y'all something, LEO won't stop you for picking up a SW. Just for that NO, because there's no grounds for an intervention. However, theyll have grounds to stop you if you break transit law. For example, you stop in the middle of the highway or main road where traffic is supposed to flow, you'll get stopped and be prepare to be questioned, her to be questioned, possible car search if he cop gets probable suspicion, etc etc etc. That could be worse than a solicitation charge because if the lady has her medicine on her or if she decides to drop it in your car you'll be in big deep trouble. So if you pick up a SW, drive like a grandma and follow all the transit laws (speed, stops, red lights, etc). A stupid mistake could open the door for LEO to intervene. That's my tip for safe mongering defensive behavior.I wonder if hitchhiking is still against the law (I think it is) and if they (LEOs) see you pick someone up off the streets, if they can stop you just for that. There was a guy on the SWer thread who said that he was caught with a SWer in his car. Apparently they went to a very secluded spot that looked suspicious to LEO (got to hide in plain sight gents). They both were eventually summoned to get out of the car and a search commenced. The guy on here said that the girl tossed her drugs in the back of his car, I believe, and when LEO found them, she wouldn't own up to them. Long story short, he said that he was out of 10's of thousands of dollars trying to clear his name. It doesn't only have to happen on the streets though. What if LEO comes in the hotel room where you and the hooker are and they find drugs? Very nasty situation and part of the risk.
YoungRestless
12-21-15, 00:24
I wonder if hitchhiking is still against the law (I think it is) and if they (LEOs) see you pick someone up off the streets, if they can stop you just for that. There was a guy on the SWer thread who said that he was caught with a SWer in his car. Apparently they went to a very secluded spot that looked suspicious to LEO (got to hide in plain sight gents). They both were eventually summoned to get out of the car and a search commenced. The guy on here said that the girl tossed her drugs in the back of his car, I believe, and when LEO found them, she wouldn't own up to them. Long story short, he said that he was out of 10's of thousands of dollars trying to clear his name. It doesn't only have to happen on the streets though. What if LEO comes in the hotel room where you and the hooker are and they find drugs? Very nasty situation and part of the risk.Is it against the law to hitchhike?
Hitchhiking in the United States is legal. The confusion lies with the United States Uniform Vehicle Code. The law states: "No person shall stand in a roadway for the purpose of soliciting a ride. ".
Don't know how solid this source is.
...LEO needs to fight more important crimes in our society like murder, drugs, gangs, etc. However consider this, as far as prostitution goes, many of these crimes are associated with it such as murder and drugs, to name a few. There was a gentleman who came to Jax (he was from Ohio) for whatever purpose recently (a professional guy who owned a biz). It appeared that he may have contacted a provider while at his motel. Who knows what transpired or what lead to his unfortunate death but he's dead now; some pimp appears to have shot him! Possibly for involving himself in something that seems as harmless as prostitution. I looked at his social media page and my heart went out to him (because it certainly could have been one of us) and his family. The sad thing is he had just loss his mother a few months before his death. Also, the fact that he left his home to come to another city and die for foolishness, no doubt. Very sad.
Now, some people on here are very astute when it comes to this activity or so-called hobby and they take all the necessary precautions to ensure their safety. BRAVO to you- whoever you are! However, there are many people in this hobby who knows very little about what they must do to keep themselves safe. Therefore it is wonderful (thanks to Admin and company) that they allow such a forum and opportunity for people to have these discussions in a relatively safe setting. I don't want to wait till I get jammed up and then decide that these conversations are paramount! I want to discuss and get educated about it now so that whatsoever risk I undertake, it will be done with calculation and not carelessness or even ignorance. Yes IGNORANCE!
Look, I have had Shetty jobs and I have had great jobs. What determines whether or not you're going to have a great job largely depends on your record. Hence, my desire is to be well informed so that I can always have great job opportunities (and being informed can keep me safe until I can make a clean break from this life without consequences). Let me tell you this too, not only does criminal records prevent you from getting certain jobs but they can affect you as far as getting into certain colleges. Yes! Colleges are now performing criminal background checks! Especially post baccalaureate degree programs. So consider these discussions tools to help people not fruck up their lives for a piece of snatch! Then again, getting a criminal record for prostitution is only one aspect to consider; as I mentioned above, you can die as well! Sometimes they prevent you from getting into certain apartments.
Again, I am going to say BRAVO to those who know so much about this subject matter but you'd also be surprised how much people don't know and they must be educated on how to stay as many steps ahead of LEO as possible. Just my $0. 02.
Lastly, consider this also, Leo is not always going to show their hand in everything they do. Just because it's not in newspapers and such do not mean it didn't happen. Do you think they tell us everything they are doing?Damn good insight and one of the better reads on here in a while. The govt will never show their hand and we would be extremely nieve to believe they give us the whole scoop. As the saying goes. If someone knocks on your door and the guy says were from the govt and were here to help. SLAM that door SHUT. Never trust the govt. Just saying. Tonto out!!
Damn good insight and one of the better reads on here in a while. The govt will never show their hand and we would be extremely nieve to believe they give us the whole scoop. As the saying goes. If someone knocks on your door and the guy says were from the govt and were here to help. SLAM that door SHUT. Never trust the govt. Just saying. Tonto out!!Not just the gov, don't trust nobody dude.
Talking about ways when LEO can intervene. Take a look at this: http://www.news4jax.com/news/crime/orlando-man-pleads-guilty-to-having-sex-with-homeless-teen.
YoungRestless
12-21-15, 21:53
Talking about ways when LEO can intervene. Take a look at this: http://www.news4jax.com/news/crime/orlando-man-pleads-guilty-to-having-sex-with-homeless-teen.Can be hard to avoid. Just think, she saved their numbers in her phone and knew where the John lived!
Old School
12-21-15, 22:36
Is it against the law to hitchhike?
Hitchhiking in the United States is legal. The confusion lies with the United States Uniform Vehicle Code. The law states: "No person shall stand in a roadway for the purpose of soliciting a ride. ".
Don't know how solid this source is.Consider this, they know just about all the Swans. Can they arrest you for giving someone a ride, no but as stated if stopping in the roadway to pick up someone is illegal then they got you, light out, did not use your turn signal, illegal you-turn, and you should get it by now.
Keep Safe brothers and have a Merry Christmas if you believe some fat bastard is going to fit down your chimney with a hottie for you.
YoungRestless
12-22-15, 00:22
Consider this, they know just about all the Swans. Can they arrest you for giving someone a ride, no but as stated if stopping in the roadway to pick up someone is illegal then they got you, light out, did not use your turn signal, illegal you-turn, and you should get it by now.
Keep Safe brothers and have a Merry Christmas if you believe some fat bastard is going to fit down your chimney with a hottie for you.
They can make up any ole lame excuse to stop you! Years ago, a LEO saw me driving down a dark street off Main st and a known Swer walking down the same street. He stopped me and gave me a ticket for stopping / talking to a Swer. Now as I think about it, it's strange that they would have a law on the books for that but I certainly got that ticket- BASTARD!
Yeah, the problem is, many of these houses don't even have chimneys so how will that fat fruck get into these houses these days! And areas of the country where it doesn't snow, will he use water ski's instead of a sled and will he have to replace Rudolph with a dolphin if he must transport his gifts over water in the southern parts of the country! Kinda complicated!
Not just the gov, don't trust nobody dude.Just ask an indian! Tonto out!!
YoungRestless
12-23-15, 00:30
You are one of the biggest hypocrites and pricks under the sun! You sit on your little scooter thinking you're some big somebody! Now hypocrite, you tell us to obey the rules and guidelines and if we don't we get infarctions. BUT, does the rules say you should tell A BIG ASS LIE! You mentioned in the Swer thread that I talked about TV / TS's and you know damn well that's a damn lie! Who is your boss you fucking faggot since you love to post things about TS / TV's and such- sounds like your fetish! Since you told a blatant lie! This should not and, I doubt if it is, consistent with the rules the actual owner of this board has made and I wonder if he knows that you do these things! Now, let's see (since this is in woodshed) if this gets posted and if it does (which I doubt), hopefully these guys will see right through your bullshit! You know damn well I never spoke of TS / TV's and you silly azz thing, you should correct that! Oh, I forgot, you're the moderator of a sex board so that makes you special! Fuck you and Jaxmutt (AKA Jaxdog)!
I don't judge Boo, and what are you overcompensating for here? English is my first language boo, we both know what you posted.
A2
YoungRestless
12-23-15, 02:29
You are one of the biggest hypocrites and pricks under the sun! You sit on your little scooter thinking you're some big somebody! Now hypocrite, you tell us to obey the rules and guidelines and if we don't we get infarctions. BUT, does the rules say you should tell A BIG ASS LIE! You mentioned in the Swer thread that I talked about TV / TS's and you know damn well that's a damn lie! Who is your boss you fucking faggot since you love to post things about TS / TV's and such- sounds like your fetish! Since you told a blatant lie! This should not and, I doubt if it is, consistent with the rules the actual owner of this board has made and I wonder if he knows that you do these things! Now, let's see (since this is in woodshed) if this gets posted and if it does (which I doubt), hopefully these guys will see right through your bullshit! You know damn well I never spoke of TS / TV's and you silly azz thing, you should correct that! Oh, I forgot, you're the moderator of a sex board so that makes you special! Fuck you and Jaxmutt (AKA Jaxdog)!
I don't judge Boo, and what are you overcompensating for here? English is my first language boo, we both know what you posted.
A2Prove I talked about TV / TS's! Don't just post some big azz lie about me mentioning or talking about it! You're a liar and a hypocrite! Damn, when a fella has to deal with some of the other pricks of this board then you chime in with them (because you don't have the backbone to stand up to them), what the hell am I supposed to do! Rules and guidelines are put into place for a reason and it is so that pricks like you don't make up shet as you go and you made that shet up! Yeah, anyone with a good memory and if you have been reading in the Swer thread:
Do you remember me saying anything about TV / TS's?
Please tell me exactly what I said please!
He's a lying azz ASShole who is taking advantage of his position! This is some communist shit to the max! Anyway BOO BOO, you don't have to worry about me posting on this shitty board and that is a fucking promise! One thing I can't stand is a fucking LIAR and a bias son-of-a-*****! Adios prick of the year!
I don't really remember because I tried to put it out of my mind but I'm pretty sure you said something about wanting to do oral on somebody who had a giant cock but even bigger tits, but I'm not sure anymore.
We both know you have already made your next alias to start again. Trolls can't live without their daily dose Boo.
A2
You are one of the biggest hypocrites and pricks under the sun! You sit on your little scooter thinking you're some big somebody! Now hypocrite, you tell us to obey the rules and guidelines and if we don't we get infarctions. BUT, does the rules say you should tell A BIG ASS LIE! You mentioned in the Swer thread that I talked about TV / TS's and you know damn well that's a damn lie! Who is your boss you fucking faggot since you love to post things about TS / TV's and such- sounds like your fetish! Since you told a blatant lie! This should not and, I doubt if it is, consistent with the rules the actual owner of this board has made and I wonder if he knows that you do these things! Now, let's see (since this is in woodshed) if this gets posted and if it does (which I doubt), hopefully these guys will see right through your bullshit! You know damn well I never spoke of TS / TV's and you silly azz thing, you should correct that! Oh, I forgot, you're the moderator of a sex board so that makes you special! Fuck you and Jaxmutt (AKA Jaxdog)!
I don't judge Boo, and what are you overcompensating for here? English is my first language boo, we both know what you posted.
A2Me thinks, you are taking this a little too seriously. Come on man, lighten up. You seem to spend a lot of time writing dissertations here. All that takes time and energy. Instead why not kick back, pour yourself a drink and enjoy the season.
Me thinks, you are taking this a little too seriously. Come on man, lighten up. You seem to spend a lot of time writing dissertations here. All that takes time and energy. Instead why not kick back, pour yourself a drink and enjoy the season.Don't know what happened between Young and A2, since I have Young on "Ignore".
Don't want to know.
But I'm not surprised, because the trajectory of the rants predicted it.
"You don't tug on Superman's cape.
You don't spit into the wind.
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger.
And you don't mess around with A2".
We are 48 hrs from Christmas. Please be kind to those providers who are deserving. Many have younglings.
Merry Christmas.
J4 me.
Alley From Cin
12-23-15, 11:41
I have been newly introduced to the world of bdsm. What I have learned so far is I am switch as I like both roles. Since I am newer to that lifestyle I don't know much about being dominant though from what I have learned I do like it and want to know more. I realize it's not for everyone. But anyone who is into the lifestlye in either role that could give me any info or tips to being a good Dom would be appreciated. I have done a ton of research online and went to a lot of book stores but can't find to much. I did get a sex book that list thousands of different fetish's. I have also joined quite a few online groups, but with all the people on this site I figured why not ask. There has to be someone that can give me info and tips any help to ensure I do things the right way would be appreciated, I realize that I will make mistakes and there is always room for trial and error to figure out what works best for me.
Don't know what happened between Young and A2, since I have Young on "Ignore".
Don't want to know.
But I'm not surprised, because the trajectory of the rants predicted it.
"You don't tug on Superman's cape.
You don't spit into the wind.
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger.
And you don't mess around with A2".
We are 48 hrs from Christmas. Please be kind to those providers who are deserving. Many have younglings.
Merry Christmas.
J4 me.Dude, USASG and ISG are not owned by a man named Jackson Marshall. Admin2 is not his lifelong friend and neither one of the fools live in Argentina. USASG was owned by a man named Jackson Marshall Bond. He apparently lives in Longwood, Fl. His address and phone number is easily available. When Mr. Bond owned USASG / ISG it was a one man operation. He probably made a living doing this. Mr. Marshall is a concrete contactor and probably not a very good one. He has been sued 10 times over USASG and his concrete business. 5 or 6 years ago Mr. Bond sold this little company.
It was purchased by a large company named Primetel that's located in Philadelphia. Primetel owns a number of smaller companies. The most notable of which is National A-1 Advertising, National operates USASG and most likely issues Admin2's paycheck. Primetel's many companies mostly buy blocks of 1-800 type numbers and try to resell them. They possess about 3,000,000 1-800 numbers. They also set these numbers up as Sex Hotlines. They have online companies such as HotMovies.com, GayMovies.Com, Camping.com and others. Primetel is a large company not some Mom & Pop operation they want you to think it is. Their address and phone number are easily locatable.
I have never seen or met Admin2. I think the first Admin may have been a young man named Michael Duffy. Admin2 comes off as a roughly 30 year guy, who puts in 15 nights, 5 nights a week for pretty much minimum wage. There is a weekend guy. These guys probably webmaster 6 to 8 different domains. I bet this guy lives with his mom, is scared of black people and girls. I bet he surely doesn't have girlfriend. She'the probably kick his ass if she knew about this USASG bullshit. If a person were to travel to Philadelphia, wait outside his work place and beat his ass if you could find him he would call the police on you and lie about his avocation. Admin2 is not a tough guy. He's a fucking Internet Warrior. What's that? A 15 year old little boy who's messing around on a website he shouldn't be messing with. He can get away with it because you don't know who he is or where he lives.
Why am I telling you this? It's probably a lot more truthful than what you think you know.
Dude, USASG and ISG are not owned by a man named Jackson Marshall. Admin2 is not his lifelong friend and neither one of the fools live in Argentina. USASG was owned by a man named Jackson Marshall Bond. He apparently lives in Longwood, Fl. His address and phone number is easily available. When Mr. Bond owned USASG / ISG it was a one man operation. He probably made a living doing this. Mr. Marshall is a concrete contactor and probably not a very good one. He has been sued 10 times over USASG and his concrete business. 5 or 6 years ago Mr. Bond sold this little company.
It was purchased by a large company named Primetel that's located in Philadelphia. Primetel owns a number of smaller companies. The most notable of which is National A-1 Advertising, National operates USASG and most likely issues Admin2's paycheck. Primetel's many companies mostly buy blocks of 1-800 type numbers and try to resell them. They possess about 3,000,000 1-800 numbers. They also set these numbers up as Sex Hotlines. They have online companies such as HotMovies.com, GayMovies.Com, Camping.com and others. Primetel is a large company not some Mom & Pop operation they want you to think it is. Their address and phone number are easily locatable.
I have never seen or met Admin2. I think the first Admin may have been a young man named Michael Duffy. Admin2 comes off as a roughly 30 year guy, who puts in 15 nights, 5 nights a week for pretty much minimum wage. There is a weekend guy. These guys probably webmaster 6 to 8 different domains. I bet this guy lives with his mom, is scared of black people and girls. I bet he surely doesn't have girlfriend. She'the probably kick his ass if she knew about this USASG bullshit. If a person were to travel to Philadelphia, wait outside his work place and beat his ass if you could find him he would call the police on you and lie about his avocation. Admin2 is not a tough guy. He's a fucking Internet Warrior. What's that? A 15 year old little boy who's messing around on a website he shouldn't be messing with. He can get away with it because you don't know who he is or where he lives.
Why am I telling you this? It's probably a lot more truthful than what you think you know.And I'm sure the guys from the forum that have been to BsAs and met myself and Jax are just plants.
I'm sure these pictures are all photoshopped.
1 Stripper stage at the house in Argentina.
2 A picture of 9 de Julio taken over the Clarin with the name of the Orlando fight thread on it (thought this was taken a while ago in 2014 for the last asshole that said I lived in my mom's basement).
3. The Chick I fucked today for 40 bucks, she doesn't really establish that I live here, though if you took a scraping off the inside of her cheek you would find my DNA, she's just to show you how much better my life is than yours you fucking troll.
4. This chick is the one I fucked yesterday (50 bucks) with her sister (another 50). Seriously, life really is this good.
And I'm sure the guys from the forum that have been to BsAs and met myself and Jax are just plants.
I'm sure these pictures are all photoshopped.
1 Stripper stage at the house in Argentina.
2 A picture of 9 de Julio taken over the Clarin with the name of the Orlando fight thread on it (thought this was taken a while ago in 2014 for the last asshole that said I lived in my mom's basement).
3. The Chick I fucked today for 40 bucks, she doesn't really establish that I live here, though if you took a scraping off the inside of her cheek you would find my DNA, she's just to show you how much better my life is than yours you fucking troll.
4. This chick is the one I fucked yesterday (50 bucks) with her sister (another 50). Seriously, life really is this good.A2! You told me to ignore this annoying troll. Now look at you. LOL.
Oh yea. Could you share with me the digits of the sisters too. J / K.
Sure 54-11-9-15-3129-8892
Have fun
A2
The Preacher
12-23-15, 21:46
And I'm sure the guys from the forum that have been to BsAs and met myself and Jax are just plants.
I'm sure these pictures are all photoshopped.
1 Stripper stage at the house in Argentina.
2 A picture of 9 de Julio taken over the Clarin with the name of the Orlando fight thread on it (thought this was taken a while ago in 2014 for the last asshole that said I lived in my mom's basement).
3. The Chick I fucked today for 40 bucks, she doesn't really establish that I live here, though if you took a scraping off the inside of her cheek you would find my DNA, she's just to show you how much better my life is than yours you fucking troll.
4. This chick is the one I fucked yesterday (50 bucks) with her sister (another 50). Seriously, life really is this good.Look at those tits! Whew!
And I'm sure the guys from the forum that have been to BsAs and met myself and Jax are just plants.
I'm sure these pictures are all photoshopped.
1 Stripper stage at the house in Argentina.
2 A picture of 9 de Julio taken over the Clarin with the name of the Orlando fight thread on it (thought this was taken a while ago in 2014 for the last asshole that said I lived in my mom's basement).
3. The Chick I fucked today for 40 bucks, she doesn't really establish that I live here, though if you took a scraping off the inside of her cheek you would find my DNA, she's just to show you how much better my life is than yours you fucking troll.
4. This chick is the one I fucked yesterday (50 bucks) with her sister (another 50). Seriously, life really is this good.Lincoln said you can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool everybody all the time. I haven't figured out where you got the pictures yet. But your still the same old Internet Warrior you always were. Hiding behind your computer screen pretending your a bad ass. Dude, there ain't no Jackson Marshall. Jackson Marshall Bond lives in Longwood, fl where he has for the last 23 years. Want me to call him? If you were in Argentina you would know its a dictatorship and relatively eXpensive. If I'm so wrong why did you ban me. Why not let me sit here and argue with myself? See you in Phillie.
You really can't help yourself I reckon.
Pictures 1 and 2 came from my phone, picture 3 came from selfie escorts, and picture 4 came from Baires Girls
Argentina had a dictatorship from 1976 to 1983 but then returned to Democracy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_general_election,_1983 and has had a representative form of government since then.
It was expensive up until 2002 when they had a major financial crisis which involved the biggest default of sovereign debt in history.
https://economics.rabobank.com/publications/2013/august/the-argentine-crisis-20012002-/
It got pretty fucking cheap after that.
I keep banning you because you're a troll and you spew racists bullshit in mass PM's.
Have fun in Phillie
A2
I have been newly introduced to the world of bdsm. What I have learned so far is I am switch as I like both roles. Since I am newer to that lifestyle I don't know much about being dominant though from what I have learned I do like it and want to know more. I realize it's not for everyone. But anyone who is into the lifestlye in either role that could give me any info or tips to being a good Dom would be appreciated. I have done a ton of research online and went to a lot of book stores but can't find to much. I did get a sex book that list thousands of different fetish's. I have also joined quite a few online groups, but with all the people on this site I figured why not ask. There has to be someone that can give me info and tips any help to ensure I do things the right way would be appreciated, I realize that I will make mistakes and there is always room for trial and error to figure out what works best for me.To be a good dominant first you need to be dominated. A good submissive will turn into a good dominant. It's not easy though, you need good chemistry with the other party and that is the most difficult thing to find when you go into that dark world. I was into it like 10 yrs ago and I really enjoyed it so don't give me ideas. LOL.
TheSwampHawk
12-24-15, 14:31
Dude, USASG and ISG are not owned by a man named Jackson Marshall. Admin2 is not his lifelong friend and neither one of the fools live in Argentina. USASG was owned by a man named Jackson Marshall Bond. He apparently lives in Longwood, Fl. His address and phone number is easily available. When Mr. Bond owned USASG / ISG it was a one man operation. He probably made a living doing this. Mr. Marshall is a concrete contactor and probably not a very good one. He has been sued 10 times over USASG and his concrete business. 5 or 6 years ago Mr. Bond sold this little company.
It was purchased by a large company named Primetel that's located in Philadelphia. Primetel owns a number of smaller companies. The most notable of which is National A-1 Advertising, National operates USASG and most likely issues Admin2's paycheck. Primetel's many companies mostly buy blocks of 1-800 type numbers and try to resell them. They possess about 3,000,000 1-800 numbers. They also set these numbers up as Sex Hotlines. They have online companies such as HotMovies.com, GayMovies.Com, Camping.com and others. Primetel is a large company not some Mom & Pop operation they want you to think it is. Their address and phone number are easily locatable.
I have never seen or met Admin2. I think the first Admin may have been a young man named Michael Duffy. Admin2 comes off as a roughly 30 year guy, who puts in 15 nights, 5 nights a week for pretty much minimum wage. There is a weekend guy. These guys probably webmaster 6 to 8 different domains. I bet this guy lives with his mom, is scared of black people and girls. I bet he surely doesn't have girlfriend. She'the probably kick his ass if she knew about this USASG bullshit. If a person were to travel to Philadelphia, wait outside his work place and beat his ass if you could find him he would call the police on you and lie about his avocation. Admin2 is not a tough guy. He's a fucking Internet Warrior. What's that? A 15 year old little boy who's messing around on a website he shouldn't be messing with. He can get away with it because you don't know who he is or where he lives.
Why am I telling you this? It's probably a lot more truthful than what you think you know.Most of this BS doesn't check out & it's WAY over the edge.
Butt out,
-SH.
TomCat4871
01-01-16, 14:08
Damn, this is really a continuing growing problem. Most other forms of candy I'll ignore. I've had to cut 2 UTR's due to this. Happy Mongering in 2016. Wishing everyone many a nut in the new year.
MouthHunter
01-01-16, 15:34
Since the worthless troll YoungWorthless was banned. Maybe we'll have a bit of fresh air for the new year. Happy hunting my friends.
Since the worthless troll YoungWorthless was banned. Maybe we'll have a bit of fresh air for the new year. Happy hunting my friends.Actually, YR wasn't banned just a good old ass chewing. Also I have noticed the green light by his name. So he still signs on. Don't be surprised if your comment resurrects him.
Beware kimosabe's. She's posting again. Its a damn shame too because she looks good. Just sayin. Tonto!!
Clear your inbox. LOL. Tonto!
When it comes to Backpage, the majority of "BBW" equates to fat disgusting slobs that don't give two shits about thier appearance. Good rule of thumb for you guys is not to bang chicks with bigger guts than you have. I don't even know how you would have sex with some of these behemoths. Good god, you would have to send out an expedition of spelunkers with enough provisions for a month of Sunday's to actually locate the va-jay-jay. Plus, a team of mechanical engineers to figure out how to actually have sex once it is located.
One more thing, "Big Booty" = horrifically gross, fat and pimply ass. "Twerking" those makes the bile rise up.
"Drops the mic, gets off soapbox and walks off the stage"
Beware kimosabe's. She's posting again. Its a damn shame too because she looks good. Just sayin. Tonto!!Yes I second this. Mandy is a thief of the first order. And she doesn't care who she robs. She will take, take and take some more. Just don't ever contact Mandy!
Oh, and that goes for Raquel too, her friend and partner in crime. She also goes by Rocky. These 2 are the worst type of slime on BP.
I noticed Raquel didn't even use a name in one of her ads, because she knows her Raquel name is mud.
Mandy is a thief and Raquel is her partner, you have been warned.
TroopDavid
01-08-16, 00:11
All I can say is party hard, but don't show up to this ones shindig!!
Troop Out!
Maybe if I hit powerball tonight I can swing those prices. LOL. But I here ya FZ. You get what you pay for. Tonto!!
Posts: 45.
New shop at the beach.
Quote Originally Posted by DrewPark.
http://jacksonville.backpage.com/Bod...shower/8547661
Looks like another Chinese shop east of Penman.
LOL ad said "magic finger" gee so many new shops I need to hit the lotto so I can visit them all. Maybe the are over building spas in and around Jax, my guess is many owners are coming from the North for a better opportunity.
Don't want to spend a lot of time on the "soap box" but, some new mongers may not understand the big picture. Of course these shops aren't owned by the girls, or for that matter the management. Most of the m are owned long armed by a few Asian syndicates that aim to dominate the sex trade in whatever city. Once they own the BP / CL massage, you'll see the shops going to take out services. It's not new, they do it all over the country.
It's up to you mongers where you spend your money, my issue is they take most of the money straight out of the local economy and use it to make real money in the drug trade. Just so you know the real deal. Happy mongering!
PT.
Damn, this is really a continuing growing problem. Most other forms of candy I'll ignore. I've had to cut 2 UTR's due to this. Happy Mongering in 2016. Wishing everyone many a nut in the new year.What is UTR?
Vandelay Ent
01-12-16, 07:20
What is UTR?Listen to the song "Treetop Flyer".
What is UTR?"Under The Radar".
J4 me.
Why do some girls show their nice looking asses on their ads if trips to that ass is off limits. I feel if that's what your advertising it should be on the menu. Just sayin. Tonto!
Why do some girls show their nice looking asses on their ads if trips to that ass is off limits. I feel if that's what your advertising it should be on the menu. Just sayin. Tonto!With women. Even the women that aren't hookers. I think everyone reading this is old enough to agree on that.
KittyLikker
01-12-16, 09:35
Why do some girls show their nice looking asses on their ads if trips to that ass is off limits. I feel if that's what your advertising it should be on the menu. Just sayin. Tonto!I agree, but I've never seen a fast food cheeseburger that looked anything like the one on the billboard either!
Why do some girls show their nice looking asses on their ads if trips to that ass is off limits. I feel if that's what your advertising it should be on the menu. Just sayin. Tonto!https://youtu.be/iEe_eraFWWs
Fishguy717
01-12-16, 09:46
Why do some girls show their nice looking asses on their ads if trips to that ass is off limits. I feel if that's what your advertising it should be on the menu. Just sayin. Tonto!Usually if ALL of the pics show their fine ass, then they don't have any tits.
Why do some girls show their nice looking asses on their ads if trips to that ass is off limits. I feel if that's what your advertising it should be on the menu. Just sayin. Tonto!Not everyone wants to go to Greece, some like simple doggie style.
The Preacher
01-12-16, 12:07
Not everyone wants to go to Greece, some like simple doggie style.I am in this category. Greek isn't one of my preferences. But a phat ass is of the utmost importance.
Why do some girls show their nice looking asses on their ads if trips to that ass is off limits. I feel if that's what your advertising it should be on the menu. Just sayin. Tonto!And I learned long ago that ass pics mean absolutely nothing as far as anal availability goes. Terms like "fetish friendly" & "open minded" are only occasionally code. BP girls sometimes get around the monitoring with references to "Greak", "backyard", "bacc side", or (my favorite) "out door fun". But some of the finest practitioners of the Grecian arts never hint at it at all.
Research. Follow the discussions, especially posts from guys who like what you do.
Which is why I am really going to miss JD!
It's up to you mongers where you spend your money, my issue is they take most of the money straight out of the local economy and use it to make real money in the drug trade. Just so you know the real deal. Happy mongering!Lets not delude ourselves.
Given the growing prevalence of "cheap" drugs (mainly "H") a large percentage of providers are trickin just to satisfy their daily. I'd say 75-80% of providers, but some you more prolific hobbyists may have a better sense. And most / all that money goes directly to the DBs'.
So the risks are growing, Watch your six.
Risk adversely selects the reckless and uninformed.
J4 me.
Jactionville
01-16-16, 10:50
This one is highly recommended. Very pretty with a great body. She travels from Tally to Savannah and also Orlando so she is not in north Florida all the time but make sure you catch her while you can when she is here.
http://staugustine.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/layla-luv-gone-to-orlando-upscale-playmate-awesome-reviewsfetish-friendly/8388386Self promotion at it's finest!
That's a pretty unfair attitude honestly. Some of us are a lot more cautious when it comes to this and that's not something to bully and put down. We post reviews like everyone else, it just may be of someone that's already on TER or has one or more reviews on here.
Seriously, get over yourself.While I can appreciate honesty, telling everyone your not willing to take one for the team and are willing to lay back and let everyone else take all the risks is just plain stupid! Sure, take in all the advice you wish but don't advertise your unwillingness to take a chance and to let everyone else run interference for you, that's just not using your brain! JD.
LuckyGandor
01-17-16, 01:02
While I can appreciate honesty, telling everyone your not willing to take one for the team and are willing to lay back and let everyone else take all the risks is just plain stupid! Sure, take in all the advice you wish but don't advertise your unwillingness to take a chance and to let everyone else run interference for you, that's just not using your brain! JD.Heh I didn't mean to start such controversy. It's not like I'm forcing someone to TOFTT as I sit waiting for an answer. Just curious if someone had happened to see a certain person before, like a lot of other people post on here. I'm more cautious than most and am not one usually to TOFTT. But I'm not blasting anyone for not seeing the person I ask about or criticizing.
While I can appreciate honesty, telling everyone your not willing to take one for the team and are willing to lay back and let everyone else take all the risks is just plain stupid! Sure, take in all the advice you wish but don't advertise your unwillingness to take a chance and to let everyone else run interference for you, that's just not using your brain! JD.We can review members posts as far back as 200. But when you see monger made 2 or 3 reviews out of 160 posts, you know he ain't going to TOFTT.
Heh I didn't mean to start such controversy. It's not like I'm forcing someone to TOFTT as I sit waiting for an answer. Just curious if someone had happened to see a certain person before, like a lot of other people post on here. I'm more cautious than most and am not one usually to TOFTT. But I'm not blasting anyone for not seeing the person I ask about or criticizing.LG, my post wasn't so much aimed at you as it was the gentleman that had posted the statement about his willingness to sit around gathering information from other board members then brag that he'd never take one for the team or as he put it " that's someone else's job" Does he really think he's going to endear himself to the membership by making such comments? My "job" as he puts it has always been to engage in a free exchange of information with like minded individuals on this site, not to act as some mongers early warning alarm that there may be trouble on the horizon. While all of us use this site to help keep everyone safe from a verity of mishaps that may befall mongers participating in our particular brand of fun, to so openly state his intention to let everyone else take the risks while he reaps the reward of our willingness to take one for the team smacks of an attitude of entitlement. I. e. I'm better than everyone else so let them take all the chances. While it's perfectly fine to use the site in just such a manner try using a little common sense and not be so blatantly vocal with your intentions! JD.
Heh I didn't mean to start such controversy. It's not like I'm forcing someone to TOFTT as I sit waiting for an answer. Just curious if someone had happened to see a certain person before, like a lot of other people post on here. I'm more cautious than most and am not one usually to TOFTT. But I'm not blasting anyone for not seeing the person I ask about or criticizing.Lucky,
I agree with you on this. There seems to be two overall types of guys on the board. The first being someone that will bang anything with a pulse including barebacking streetwalkers (Will never figure that one out) and the next being overly cautious guys like myself that have good careers, know a lot of people around town with a wife and family that doesn't want the two different worlds colliding. Years ago, I reported on someone being a junkie / thief and took a huge amount of shit for it as morons ran to her rescue and defended her. But, in the end she ended up being exactly what I called her, a junkie / thief.
I've been at this a LONG time and have never had a hint of suspicion that my worlds would cross and intend on keeping it that way. You are the smart one in this discussion.
On a personal note, I'm still mourning Angie moving away! I don't think I can replace her.
Lucky,
I agree with you on this. There seems to be two overall types of guys on the board. The first being someone that will bang anything with a pulse including barebacking streetwalkers (Will never figure that one out) and the next being overly cautious guys like myself that have good careers, know a lot of people around town with a wife and family that doesn't want the two different worlds colliding. Years ago, I reported on someone being a junkie / thief and took a huge amount of shit for it as morons ran to her rescue and defended her. But, in the end she ended up being exactly what I called her, a junkie / thief.
I've been at this a LONG time and have never had a hint of suspicion that my worlds would cross and intend on keeping it that way. You are the smart one in this discussion.
On a personal note, I'm still mourning Angie moving away! I don't think I can replace her.This forum reduces risk for everyone when intel is relevant and timely. Seems to me that those that prefer to "take more than they give" are the beneficiaries of others. In my book that's unfair and should not be tolerated.
J4 me.
LG, my post wasn't so much aimed at you as it was the gentleman that had posted the statement about his willingness to sit around gathering information from other board members then brag that he'd never take one for the team or as he put it " that's someone else's job" Does he really think he's going to endear himself to the membership by making such comments? My "job" as he puts it has always been to engage in a free exchange of information with like minded individuals on this site, not to act as some mongers early warning alarm that there may be trouble on the horizon. While all of us use this site to help keep everyone safe from a verity of mishaps that may befall mongers participating in our particular brand of fun, to so openly state his intention to let everyone else take the risks while he reaps the reward of our willingness to take one for the team smacks of an attitude of entitlement. I. e. I'm better than everyone else so let them take all the chances. While it's perfectly fine to use the site in just such a manner try using a little common sense and not be so blatantly vocal with your intentions! JD.To be so blunt. I should've chosen my words better. That I can admit to. I do however, prefer to minimize my risks and am very selective of whom I spend time with, which is the smart thing to do from my point of view.
JaxSince1982
01-18-16, 09:42
I was out with my SO the other evening and as I'm sitting at the bar facing the door I see what I believed to be a provider I had seen 6 or 7 months ago. A wave of fear came over me as I didn't need any drama. As she got closer I realized I was mistaken. Whew!! Anyway that got me thinking. Jax is really a small town! Running into a provider when we are out and about can happen. How would I handle it? Well I never give my real name to a provider so there's that. Also I've managed not to piss off any of them so I don't believe they would have any reason so be confrontational if I were to ever run into one. So have any of you had a provider run in? If so how did you handle it?
Member #5069
01-18-16, 11:39
Self promotion at it's finest!I am not a provider. I was just trying to relay some information about someone that's all, but if you think I am her than I guess that is kind of good for me. The fewer dripping dicks that get insider of her the better for me I guess.
This forum reduces risk for everyone when intel is relevant and timely. Seems to me that those that prefer to "take more than they give" are the beneficiaries of others. In my book that's unfair and should not be tolerated.
J4 me.I just blasted through your posts and didn't really see anything that leapt out where you are "TOFTT". Your post reeks of hypocritical overtones. From the 35,000 foot level it appears this board serves a purpose to qualify girls that are posting on Backpage. If the ad is halfway decent, it garners attention from more than one guy so someone will eventually pull the trigger BUT not necessarily post about thier experience. But, when someone else asks about a certain girl then they pipe up and share thier experience.
Let's face the truth, single guys or guys in bad marriages are going to be more prolific in "TOFTT" and posting / sharing thier experience that married or attached. When let's say for arguments sake, 25% of your posts are "TOFTT" then you can get back on your soapbox. Freedom of speech is great, but see the attachment LOL!
I was out with my SO the other evening and as I'm sitting at the bar facing the door I see what I believed to be a provider I had seen 6 or 7 months ago. A wave of fear came over me as I didn't need any drama. As she got closer I realized I was mistaken. Whew!! Anyway that got me thinking. Jax is really a small town! Running into a provider when we are out and about can happen. How would I handle it? Well I never give my real name to a provider so there's that. Also I've managed not to piss off any of them so I don't believe they would have any reason so be confrontational if I were to ever run into one. So have any of you had a provider run in? If so how did you handle it?Happened at a concert at Florida Theater. Looked to my left and just across the aisle on the same row was Gina, one of my ATF's, there with a date. I was with my SO. After the show with all the people leaving simultaneously, who should be exiting the same door at the same time? Yep. She caught my eye and we both gave an ever so slight nod and smile and moved on into the night. The next time we got together, we talked about that split second moment of 'oh crap, how is this going to go', but we were both calm and cool and nobody was ever the wiser. Damn, I miss Gina!
To be so blunt. I should've chosen my words better. That I can admit to. I do however, prefer to minimize my risks and am very selective of whom I spend time with, which is the smart thing to do from my point of view.In many instances I'll do the same thing, I'll wait and see if anything pops up about a certain provider I'm interested in. Sometimes I'm rewarded with some good information and sometimes I'm not. If no info is forth coming and I'm really interested in a certain provider I'll certainly TOFTT. One of the reasons I've decided to quit this hobby is I've gotten way to good at it. Rarely if ever am I surprised these days, a sure sign that I'm too deeply involved in this past time.
The point I was making with my post is that we're all here for the same reasons, or most of us are. We want to stay safe and have a good time with as minimal amount of risk as possible. Waiting for info on a provider is totally cool and in many cases a good idea. JD.
I was out with my SO the other evening and as I'm sitting at the bar facing the door I see what I believed to be a provider I had seen 6 or 7 months ago. A wave of fear came over me as I didn't need any drama. As she got closer I realized I was mistaken. Whew!! Anyway that got me thinking. Jax is really a small town! Running into a provider when we are out and about can happen. How would I handle it? Well I never give my real name to a provider so there's that. Also I've managed not to piss off any of them so I don't believe they would have any reason so be confrontational if I were to ever run into one. So have any of you had a provider run in? If so how did you handle it?I was sitting with my wife & another couple in a Titusville restaurant on our way home from a vacation when a provider I had seen in Orlando walked in with 2 guys & sat down at the table right next to us. Facing me, no less. My heart trip-hammered in my chest & I felt myself flush so, yeah, I was dismayed. Throughout the meal, which we had only just ordered, I stole glances in her direction but never saw a hint of recognition. As far as I could tell, she never looked in my direction. I hardly tasted my rock shrimp.
As we got up to leave, I dawdled behind my group & looked back. She immediately looked up & directly at me, grinned like a possum & winked.
I just blasted through your posts and didn't really see anything that leapt out where you are "TOFTT". Your post reeks of hypocritical overtones. From the 35,000 foot level it appears this board serves a purpose to qualify girls that are posting on Backpage. If the ad is halfway decent, it garners attention from more than one guy so someone will eventually pull the trigger BUT not necessarily post about thier experience. But, when someone else asks about a certain girl then they pipe up and share thier experience.
Let's face the truth, single guys or guys in bad marriages are going to be more prolific in "TOFTT" and posting / sharing thier experience that married or attached. When let's say for arguments sake, 25% of your posts are "TOFTT" then you can get back on your soapbox. Freedom of speech is great, but see the attachment LOL!Flailing about won't improve your argument or status. Posting timely and relevant intelligence will. That goes for you, me and everyone else.
If you take more information than you give you should be treated accordingly regardless of your marital status.
My position stands.
J4 m4.
To be so blunt. I should've chosen my words better. That I can admit to. I do however, prefer to minimize my risks and am very selective of whom I spend time with, which is the smart thing to do from my point of view.When you're at the bottom of a hole, the first thing to do is to quit digging. The "smart thing to do" would be to thank the guys who TOFTT for providing you with a safe way to enjoy this hobby, and leave it at that.
When you're at the bottom of a hole, the first thing to do is to quit digging. The "smart thing to do" would be to thank the guys who TOFTT for providing you with a safe way to enjoy this hobby, and leave it at that.Just a thought, but blocking the guys that make it so obvious that they are leeches, is a good solution. That way they can't' see your posts, and there is no value in us reading their posts.
I was out with my SO the other evening and as I'm sitting at the bar facing the door I see what I believed to be a provider I had seen 6 or 7 months ago. A wave of fear came over me as I didn't need any drama. As she got closer I realized I was mistaken. Whew!! Anyway that got me thinking. Jax is really a small town! Running into a provider when we are out and about can happen. How would I handle it? Well I never give my real name to a provider so there's that. Also I've managed not to piss off any of them so I don't believe they would have any reason so be confrontational if I were to ever run into one. So have any of you had a provider run in? If so how did you handle it?I could've sworn I saw Payton Jeannette in Chilis on Baymeadows a couple weeks ago, but she's never met me so she wouldn't of known who I was anyway. I did run into my ATF down the road from my house once. She was driving by and I was pulling out of a parking lot just about a mile from my house and she waved and I waved back. Does that count? She never knew where I lived so I didn't care. When I asked her what she was doing in my hood, she only told me she didn't know it was me, and I advised her "well you thought it was someone you knew because you waved at me" LOL. These girls, I tell ya.
I just blasted through your posts and didn't really see anything that leapt out where you are "TOFTT". Your post reeks of hypocritical overtones. From the 35,000 foot level it appears this board serves a purpose to qualify girls that are posting on Backpage. If the ad is halfway decent, it garners attention from more than one guy so someone will eventually pull the trigger BUT not necessarily post about thier experience. But, when someone else asks about a certain girl then they pipe up and share thier experience.
Let's face the truth, single guys or guys in bad marriages are going to be more prolific in "TOFTT" and posting / sharing thier experience that married or attached. When let's say for arguments sake, 25% of your posts are "TOFTT" then you can get back on your soapbox. Freedom of speech is great, but see the attachment LOL!I say, "You, you Red Talon, you are my number one guy" LOLOLOL. I don't know Red Talon, but I like him already. To any dude reading this that takes issue that I won't be the first one that TOFTT, act like a man and stop getting your feelings hurt.
When you're at the bottom of a hole, the first thing to do is to quit digging. The "smart thing to do" would be to thank the guys who TOFTT for providing you with a safe way to enjoy this hobby, and leave it at that.Yet another hypocrite, from your posts it appears you have only seen Missy. So, practice what you preach brother!
Was meeting a buddy of mine for drinks at gold club one night. When I showed up he was talking to a chick at the bar. He had been chatting with her for a bit before I got there and I realized she was a BP girl I saw a long time ago. My buddy ended up getting her number and I had to tell him how I found her on backpage.
He thought it was going to be a sure bet for a hookup after I told him. He called her the next day and she told him she was so trashed she didn't remember meeting him. LOL.
I was out with my SO the other evening and as I'm sitting at the bar facing the door I see what I believed to be a provider I had seen 6 or 7 months ago. A wave of fear came over me as I didn't need any drama. As she got closer I realized I was mistaken. Whew!! Anyway that got me thinking. Jax is really a small town! Running into a provider when we are out and about can happen. How would I handle it? Well I never give my real name to a provider so there's that. Also I've managed not to piss off any of them so I don't believe they would have any reason so be confrontational if I were to ever run into one. So have any of you had a provider run in? If so how did you handle it?
Yet another hypocrite, from your posts it appears you have only seen Missy. So, practice what you preach brother!I only started my account here in July after a visit with Missy when she mentioned she couldn't login to Backpage. She mentioned this place specifically in her BP ads, so I made a review post here. I moved out of town less than a week later. Since then I have reviewed Erin, Amber, Mallory, Cara, Robyn, Olivia, and Cindy in my new town.
I post intel when I have it and I share intel when asked, and I don't disrespect mongers for TOFTT. I'm practicing what I preach all the way.
I was out with my SO the other evening and as I'm sitting at the bar facing the door I see what I believed to be a provider I had seen 6 or 7 months ago. A wave of fear came over me as I didn't need any drama. As she got closer I realized I was mistaken. Whew!! Anyway that got me thinking. Jax is really a small town! Running into a provider when we are out and about can happen. How would I handle it? Well I never give my real name to a provider so there's that. Also I've managed not to piss off any of them so I don't believe they would have any reason so be confrontational if I were to ever run into one. So have any of you had a provider run in? If so how did you handle it?So I read your post and almost fell out of my recliner! It happened to me once years ago. I had a really cute little spinner that was flying under the radar. I had met her through another provider who was a friend of hers. She never advertized and I had seen 6 or 7 times. Anyway, we knew each others real names and had actually gotten pretty close. She was a real sweetheart and we really clicked. We actually began seeing other in a non-professional way. She knew I was married and I knew all about her boyfriend who had no idea what she was doing on the side. She actually still lived at home with her parents. She told me one day that she had taken a waitressing job for some extra money at the Woody's BBQ on Beach. It's no longer there BTW. One day after work my wife suggested that we meet at Woodys for dinner after work. I agreed bcuz my utr had told me that morning that she was not working that day. So I get there and walk in, see my wife and go sit down. Our waitress walks up and guess who it was? I almost shit my pants. But man did we both hold it together. The next day I called her up and we both laughed uncontrollably. She told me she had gotten called in that afternoon to cover for someone else. I continued to see this girl for another year till she moved to south florida. To this day, we still get together a couple of times a year.
I have thought about that encounter many times and if it had been any other girl it could have been a disaster.
Just a thought, but blocking the guys that make it so obvious that they are leeches, is a good solution. That way they can't' see your posts, and there is no value in us reading their posts.It never ceases to amaze me how quickly people invoke terms like "hypocrisy", justice, etc to rationalize their motives or behavior. Please note: I never invoked the TOFTT, I simply addressed "leeching" (those that take more than they give).
Also for those of you interested in insulting me or anyone else through imagery, it maybe wise to steer clear from using imagery that depicts a Special Needs Child. Aside from the obvious reasons: Its someone's child, an innocent being, special needs children are different but not less, your mom raised you better than that, etc.
Its the type of disparagement that differentiates humanity based on their physical characteristics rather than their contributions to society.
It is ineffective and immature use of imagery, but insightful about the sender.
A couple of additions to the ignore list for me.
I'm done with this topic.
J4 me.
This topic has evolved. It started with a reply I sent to LuckyGandor. I suggested he TOFTT and he replied back with some thing about he leaves that for the crazies. If you look back at his post you will see its all questions and commentary. Even yesterday he was throwing out questions.
I sent him Intel on my CL find. He wanted to know everything under the sun about her and more. And because he was a Senior I did. Most of it was through our person email. If you look back you can see that he confirms that she is real but he never really gave a review of her. I had asked him twice about her and he never replied back. I know he was in contact with her but I don't think he ever did partake. So what he did was really waste my time.
I give out digits and Intel in pm often. Some mongers never make reviews or they just end up being digit collectors. So I have decided stop wasting my time sharing with those who don't give back or how are not trusted members.
I hope this ends the TOFTT topic. I'm sure LuckyG won't have anything to say in reply to this post. He talks about sharing his Intel with others. He may have seen 2 providers and I question that number. With over 160 post you would expect to see some real reviews. Check for yourselves. He ain't a real monger. He just another troll.
CB1.
Any more questions LG?
It never ceases to amaze me how quickly people invoke terms like "hypocrisy", justice, etc to rationalize their motives or behavior. Please note: I never invoked the TOFTT, I simply addressed "leeching" (those that take more than they give).
Also for those of you interested in insulting me or anyone else through imagery, it maybe wise to steer clear from using imagery that depicts a Special Needs Child. Aside from the obvious reasons: Its someone's child, an innocent being, special needs children are different but not less, your mom raised you better than that, etc.
Its the type of disparagement that differentiates humanity based on their physical characteristics rather than their contributions to society.
It is ineffective and immature use of imagery, but insightful about the sender.
A couple of additions to the ignore list for me.
I'm done with this topic.
J4 me.I just find it funny that a person who pays women for sex is throwing out the PC Card. Some days it's just too easy.
This topic has evolved. It started with a reply I sent to LuckyGandor. I suggested he TOFTT and he replied back with some thing about he leaves that for the crazies. If you look back at his post you will see its all questions and commentary. Even yesterday he was throwing out questions.
I sent him Intel on my CL find. He wanted to know everything under the sun about her and more. And because he was a Senior I did. Most of it was through our person email. If you look back you can see that he confirms that she is real but he never really gave a review of her. I had asked him twice about her and he never replied back. I know he was in contact with her but I don't think he ever did partake. So what he did was really waste my time.
I give out digits and Intel in pm often. Some mongers never make reviews or they just end up being digit collectors. So I have decided stop wasting my time sharing with those who don't give back or how are not trusted members.
I hope this ends the TOFTT topic. I'm sure LuckyG won't have anything to say in reply to this post. He talks about sharing his Intel with others. He may have seen 2 providers and I question that number. With over 160 post you would expect to see some real reviews. Check for yourselves. He ain't a real monger. He just another troll.
CB1.
Any more questions LG?At BEST he and some of the others are Trolls, as you mentioned. However, collecting information without provide anything useful back to the board could be a tactic used by LEO. That's why they go on my IGNORE list.
...He wanted to know everything under the sun about her and more. And because he was a Senior I did... When I receive unsolicited PMs I always check the posters previous posts. Raw post count means nothing these days. I look at the entire body of work here. As a result a fair number of messages go straight to the delete file. That being said, there have been a lot of low number post fellows who I helped out concerning (ahem) my area of "expertise".
LuckyGandor
01-20-16, 02:43
Damn cantb1, I thought we were bros. I even defended you against countless heckling into my private messages.
And for the record regarding your "CL" find, I was in contact with her before we talked cause she posted briefly on backpage. It was just an amusing coincidence that it was the same girl. And I did go see her as I posted and I posted a review, I didn't go into crazy detail but I did. I responded to Stewie in pm about her. Harley told me at the time I was the best she'd had. Sorry cantb1, guess you didn't do it for her.
I've posted a few reviews, Kayleigh, Sunshine, etc. But do most of my contact through pm but if someone is interesting that I don't see posts about, I'll ask about them. And I never said only crazies TOFTT, I just said I don't like seeing girls with no reviews at all. And for the record I got 4-5 pms about this issue all supporting me. Assume they don't want to post so they don't get bullied by you and Drew.
I thought we were cool man, not sure why you had to take it to another level. Hurts.
This topic has evolved. It started with a reply I sent to LuckyGandor. I suggested he TOFTT and he replied back with some thing about he leaves that for the crazies. If you look back at his post you will see its all questions and commentary. Even yesterday he was throwing out questions.
I sent him Intel on my CL find. He wanted to know everything under the sun about her and more. And because he was a Senior I did. Most of it was through our person email. If you look back you can see that he confirms that she is real but he never really gave a review of her. I had asked him twice about her and he never replied back. I know he was in contact with her but I don't think he ever did partake. So what he did was really waste my time.
I give out digits and Intel in pm often. Some mongers never make reviews or they just end up being digit collectors. So I have decided stop wasting my time sharing with those who don't give back or how are not trusted members.
I hope this ends the TOFTT topic. I'm sure LuckyG won't have anything to say in reply to this post. He talks about sharing his Intel with others. He may have seen 2 providers and I question that number. With over 160 post you would expect to see some real reviews. Check for yourselves. He ain't a real monger. He just another troll.
CB1.
Any more questions LG?
Damn cantb1, I thought we were bros. I even defended you against countless heckling into my private messages.
And for the record regarding your "CL" find, I was in contact with her before we talked cause she posted briefly on backpage. It was just an amusing coincidence that it was the same girl. And I did go see her as I posted and I posted a review, I didn't go into crazy detail but I did. I responded to Stewie in pm about her. Harley told me at the time I was the best she'd had. Sorry cantb1, guess you didn't do it for her.
I've posted a few reviews, Kayleigh, Sunshine, etc. But do most of my contact through pm but if someone is interesting that I don't see posts about, I'll ask about them. And I never said only crazies TOFTT, I just said I don't like seeing girls with no reviews at all. And for the record I got 4-5 pms about this issue all supporting me. Assume they don't want to post so they don't get bullied by you and Drew.
I thought we were cool man, not sure why you had to take it to another level. Hurts.I didn't like how out of control the TOFTT topic got. So I decided to define its origin. I'm no BULLY and I don't see where Drew did more than give his opinion on the matter. In the end I will be more selective on who I give Intel in pm. Trust members and active contributing members still feel free to hmu.
As for your comment that you were the best she had. If that's what is she really said. It sure doesn't hurt my feeling at all. Mind you. Fucking a hooker is for my pleasure. Hers is spending my money. LOL.
LuckyGandor
01-20-16, 10:55
I didn't like how out of control the TOFTT topic got. So I decided to define its origin. I'm no BULLY and I don't see where Drew did more than give his opinion on the matter. In the end I will be more selective on who I give Intel in pm. Trust members and active contributing members still feel free to hmu.
As for your comment that you were the best she had. If that's what is she really said. It sure doesn't hurt my feeling at all. Mind you. Fucking a hooker is for my pleasure. Hers is spending my money. LOL.For the record you didn't give me any Intel in pm. I already knew her and you posted all about her publically. Unless you count Facebook links but whatevs.
For the record you didn't give me any Intel in pm. I already knew her and you posted all about her publically. Unless you count Facebook links but whatevs.OK LuckyG. Your memory must be cloudy. I have 14 inbox emails from you between Dec 3 and 4. I replied to all of them. Then I have an inbox email from you on Dec 21 asking for pics from my 3 some and I didn't reply back to that one. And if you would like I'm tight with several trusted senior who are not in this debate that I can forward them those emails as proof that I went out my way to help you feel comfortable seeing her. I might talk some shit. But no reason for me to lie. I earned my stripes. Lmao.
GeomaticsJoe
01-20-16, 12:31
I didn't like how out of control the TOFTT topic got. So I decided to define its origin. I'm no BULLY and I don't see where Drew did more than give his opinion on the matter. In the end I will be more selective on who I give Intel in pm. Trust members and active contributing members still feel free to hmu.As a long time lurker and recent poster all I would say is that I have had interactions with Drew before and he has always been helpful.
And as far as this Team goes, I have some questions: do they hold open try outs and are uniforms provided?
TomCat4871
01-20-16, 20:34
Random comment here.
Poking around my FB I stumbled upon a particular chic who is a rare poster on BP. A certain puerto rican Ms. Tifanny. When I looked at the people she knew it was UNBELIEVABLE. It was literally like a who's who of Jacksonville providers past and present. What a FB network! Pic after pic after pic. Girls I had seen and girls that had been on my to-do list but just never got around to. Makes me wonder if she is some kind of Madam DB to them or just scissor sisters with half of backpage.
Spot on review, agree. The fresh aspect intrigued me as did her social media presence and life details. Good girl gone bad? She definitely looks like she's aged a few years since recent social media pics so I assume she's living life hard.You fucked her too? Or are you reviewing her FB page?
LuckyGandor
01-21-16, 01:02
You fucked her too? Or are you reviewing her FB page?Are your skills at reading that poor?
Check a couple posts down, smart guy.
Old School
01-21-16, 01:32
Random comment here.
Poking around my FB I stumbled upon a particular chic who is a rare poster on BP. A certain puerto rican Ms. Tifanny. When I looked at the people she knew it was UNBELIEVABLE. It was literally like a who's who of Jacksonville providers past and present. What a FB network! Pic after pic after pic. Girls I had seen and girls that had been on my to-do list but just never got around to. Makes me wonder if she is some kind of Madam DB to them or just scissor sisters with half of backpage.It is the same for Dancers and Servers, find one and you can find many more. They meet in the trade, on vacation, by friends of friends, DB's and want to be Pimps.
LuckyGandor
01-21-16, 02:34
OK LuckyG. Your memory must be cloudy. I have 14 inbox emails from you between Dec 3 and 4. I replied to all of them. Then I have an inbox email from you on Dec 21 asking for pics from my 3 some and I didn't reply back to that one. And if you would like I'm tight with several trusted senior who are not in this debate that I can forward them those emails as proof that I went out my way to help you feel comfortable seeing her. I might talk some shit. But no reason for me to lie. I earned my stripes. Lmao.Well our opinions of Intel differ. I was already in contact with her. I enjoyed your story you posted (the everyone thought was bs BTW but me) so I replied if you had a pic of her. You did and it turned out to be the same girl. I was planning to see her anyhow but figured I'd enjoy your story too.
If you consider that Intel then great you gave me Intel, thanks big guy. Most of the other emails was me enjoying your stories. Sorry for trying to be friendly.
And to think I defended you to the 5-6 people who pmed me talking shit about you. What a waste.
ThePhenom120
01-21-16, 04:33
Random comment here.
Poking around my FB I stumbled upon a particular chic who is a rare poster on BP. A certain puerto rican Ms. Tifanny. When I looked at the people she knew it was UNBELIEVABLE. It was literally like a who's who of Jacksonville providers past and present. What a FB network! Pic after pic after pic. Girls I had seen and girls that had been on my to-do list but just never got around to. Makes me wonder if she is some kind of Madam DB to them or just scissor sisters with half of backpage.You certainly are not lien buddy. I used to post here a lot and try to read up on other monger experiences to figure out which girls were worth seeing. But now since I found a few girls on FB I've been using them to help link me to other providers. This works wonders until they run into uncle LEO.
Are your skills at reading that poor?
Check a couple posts down, smart guy.Well, my eyes aren't as good as they used to be. Maybe I can't see where you said you met her or a review you made. But my nose has gotten very sensitive over the years. And I can smell bullshit from across the city.
Random comment here.
Poking around my FB I stumbled upon a particular chic who is a rare poster on BP. A certain puerto rican Ms. Tifanny. When I looked at the people she knew it was UNBELIEVABLE. It was literally like a who's who of Jacksonville providers past and present. What a FB network! Pic after pic after pic. Girls I had seen and girls that had been on my to-do list but just never got around to. Makes me wonder if she is some kind of Madam DB to them or just scissor sisters with half of backpage.If you find one on a social network, you will find them linked together. I see many of these girls on social network and they are usually linked to others that do this. They even use the same pictures for FB they do for their BP adds. Kind of odd actually, but like someone said, they meet doing this, word of mouth, and probably in the joint, so there ya go.
Well our opinions of Intel differ. I was already in contact with her. I enjoyed your story you posted (the everyone thought was bs BTW but me) so I replied if you had a pic of her. You did and it turned out to be the same girl. I was planning to see her anyhow but figured I'd enjoy your story too.
If you consider that Intel then great you gave me Intel, thanks big guy. Most of the other emails was me enjoying your stories. Sorry for trying to be friendly.
And to think I defended you to the 5-6 people who pmed me talking shit about you. What a waste.Well gosh, LuckyG. Thanks for being my white knight in your inbox. Last thing I would have to do is to lie about some pussy I paid for. Or some free tricks from a hooker. No disrespect to the girls intended. I like hookers. They are the reason we joined this site.
KittyLikker
01-21-16, 11:57
I was out with my SO the other evening and as I'm sitting at the bar facing the door I see what I believed to be a provider I had seen 6 or 7 months ago. A wave of fear came over me as I didn't need any drama. As she got closer I realized I was mistaken. Whew!! Anyway that got me thinking. Jax is really a small town! Running into a provider when we are out and about can happen. How would I handle it? Well I never give my real name to a provider so there's that. Also I've managed not to piss off any of them so I don't believe they would have any reason so be confrontational if I were to ever run into one. So have any of you had a provider run in? If so how did you handle it?Many years ago I saw Liz (getluckywithliz) somewhat regularly (damn, she may have been my first in jax come to think of it). Anyway, she is one who seemed to pretty much have her shit together and seemed to have a real life outside of the hobby. She told me about running into a customer at the movies and having the same "oh shit" feeling- hoping they would play it cool.
I am SURE that there are plenty of girls who would fuck your shit up if they thought there was something in it for them, but I do believe that most of them want to keep the private biz private. I just wish I knew how to tell the difference!
Pseudonymous
01-21-16, 17:04
Many years ago I saw Liz (getluckywithliz) somewhat regularly (damn, she may have been my first in jax come to think of it). Anyway, she is one who seemed to pretty much have her shit together and seemed to have a real life outside of the hobby. She told me about running into a customer at the movies and having the same "oh shit" feeling- hoping they would play it cool.
I am SURE that there are plenty of girls who would fuck your shit up if they thought there was something in it for them, but I do believe that most of them want to keep the private biz private. I just wish I knew how to tell the difference!Crazy as it may sound, that may be a reason to perfer the SWs over the BP'ers (among other things). BP'ers have real lives, & could probably do some real damage to your reputation if they really wanted to. SWs are so trapped and so consumed by their addictions they don't have the means to really expose you, unless they cooperate with LEO.
In the beginning I thought I'd 'graduate' to BP once I could afford it. Now that I can, it's so many reasons to stay off BP. The stroll is like Amazon.com or walmart. They have mostly what you need and some of what you want. BP is like eBay. Only for rare products, everything else is overpriced.
Saw naomi again this morning. I know I probably sound like a broken record. LOL. But I get my coin worth and she's just hands down an awesome chick. And I never get ripped off or clock watched and I get everything I want. I've decided until she quits the game my wampums will be well spent. Be safe and remember to always keep the peacepipe packed. Tonto!!
If you find one on a social network, you will find them linked together. I see many of these girls on social network and they are usually linked to others that do this. They even use the same pictures for FB they do for their BP adds. Kind of odd actually, but like someone said, they meet doing this, word of mouth, and probably in the joint, so there ya go.Your absolutely correct. These providers all know each other ie facebook social media etc. My atf said oh I know her. She's on my facebook. Etc. So you are 100 percent correct on that! Tonto!
Member #5048
01-22-16, 16:43
Random comment here.
Poking around my FB I stumbled upon a particular chic who is a rare poster on BP. A certain puerto rican Ms. Tifanny. When I looked at the people she knew it was UNBELIEVABLE. It was literally like a who's who of Jacksonville providers past and present. What a FB network! Pic after pic after pic. Girls I had seen and girls that had been on my to-do list but just never got around to. Makes me wonder if she is some kind of Madam DB to them or just scissor sisters with half of backpage.I was about to post about the same exact thing. It is unreal how connected they are. I guess it should be expected. Poking around, I have connected pretty much every BP chick out there. Whats funny (and scary) is that I have a mutual friend with two of them. I wonder how he knows them but don't have the balls to ask or know how to do so without revealing how I do. That would be really awkward.
Alley From Cin
01-23-16, 01:01
Many years ago I saw Liz (getluckywithliz) somewhat regularly (damn, she may have been my first in jax come to think of it). Anyway, she is one who seemed to pretty much have her shit together and seemed to have a real life outside of the hobby. She told me about running into a customer at the movies and having the same "oh shit" feeling- hoping they would play it cool.
I am SURE that there are plenty of girls who would fuck your shit up if they thought there was something in it for them, but I do believe that most of them want to keep the private biz private. I just wish I knew how to tell the difference!Let me say one as a dancer turned provider, with a regular job / life as well, it does happen. One time years and years ago when I was only dancing, I had my kids with me and ran into someone from the club this was over off baymeadows, apparently he was blind to the fact that I had kids with me and kept following me around the grocery store like don't I know you, the whole time I am like umm no you don't and pointing to the kids.
There have been other times, as well, once I got a job at a restaurant, hired by one manager only to go in and find out my general manager was a regular of mine back in the days of Cinders. I didn't work there to long cause it was just weird. Since then here and there I have came across a few mongers, and I think we all have the same fear, is he / she going to blow my cover. I can say that probably just as much as you would want your hobby to stay a secret, we want our double lives kept in the dark as well. There are a few members of this board who I have known for 10+ years, and have seen at multiples places I have been employed at, but we are not necessarily friends that speak on a day to day basis but enough so that we can chat, only if the other person is alone. I can't speak for every provider, or every monger, but there is a reason we all go through all these necessary precautions, burner phones, google voice numbers, text apps, and what not. Everyone wants to have a good time, but there is no need for others to know about it, unless it is here and we are just giving out info for others. Just my two cents for what is worth.
Member #5048
01-23-16, 13:56
So,
It has been about a year since I took my frst trip into "mongerland" so I wanted to give a recap and offer a little advice to any new members / mongers out there. My first visit was supposed to be with Riverside Gina but when I got there, I got the "bait and switch". She had apparently double booked and sent out "a friend" (Nichelle) To take care of me. It ended up being a car visit that I donated too much for but hey, live and learn. Since then I have spent way too much (this "thing of ours" is addicting) but had mostly a good time. My best times this year have been with Gina, Rikki, Miranda, Alyssa, (haven't sen her in months due to reports) Ashley (Skittles) and the queen Maliyah. I apologize for the lack of reports but will contribute more in the future. I am going to post a few late reviews after this. Now, the advice I mentioned. (feel free to direct newbies to this post and add any of your own.).
1. Do your own research first. I trolled the forums for about six months before I made my first visit and my first post was a "thank you" to other contributers and a review. Read back a few months or so if you have questions. Most will probalby be answered, especially if they are about a provider. The fact is that most of them have been reviewed already under one name or another. It just takes a little effort. A lot of effort will go a long way. No one likes it when a new member starts out asking for "hand outs".
2. Realize that nothing is more truer than YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary. I made the mistake of expecting the same experience as others and was disappointed more than once. You will not have the same adventures as a senior with 1000 plus posts. Yet. I have had a couple really good experiences but honestly, I think that I jsut got lucky at this point.
3. Remember that there are many more mongers than girls. They will double book and make multiple appointments and therefore aren't very reliable. If she is clock watching, there is probably someone on the way or already waiting.
4. Protect yourself and your stuff. I don't take more than the donation with me. I only take the donation, my phone, my protection and my keys inside. I don't do "car dates" or pick up SW but if I did, I would make sure nothing of value was in reach. I arrive early and check out the surroundings. I take the long way to the room. I check out the room, bathroom, house, apartment etc before anything happens. I try not to give the donation until the end of the visit. If I do take it out, I place it somewhere visible and make it clear that it should stay there. The doesn't always happen and then I get "rushed" but I try. I don't talk about what is going to happen until LEO check is completed. If anything seems fishy, I bolt.
5. Negotiate. Although a provider may have a set donation, that doesn't mean that she isn't flexible. If she is unwilling to adjust the donation, either accept it or walk away. For a long time I was pretty passive and just donated whatever was stated first. Now, I will at least ask if she is willing to accept something else. I understand that it is supply vs demand and am nice about it but have also saved a few here and there. Remember that if market price (or higher) is always paid, it will continue to go up.
I think that is about it, but I am sure there is lots more that can be said by Mongers more experienced than I.
So,
It has been about a year since I took my frst trip into "mongerland" so I wanted to give a recap and offer a little advice to any new members / mongers out there. My first visit was supposed to be with Riverside Gina but when I got there, I got the "bait and switch". She had apparently double booked and sent out "a friend" (Nichelle) To take care of me. It ended up being a car visit that I donated too much for but hey, live and learn. Since then I have spent way too much (this "thing of ours" is addicting) but had mostly a good time. My best times this year have been with Gina, Rikki, Miranda, Alyssa, (haven't sen her in months due to reports) Ashley (Skittles) and the queen Maliyah. I apologize for the lack of reports but will contribute more in the future. I am going to post a few late reviews after this. Now, the advice I mentioned. (feel free to direct newbies to this post and add any of your own.).
1. Do your own research first. I trolled the forums for about six months before I made my first visit and my first post was a "thank you" to other contributers and a review. Read back a few months or so if you have questions. Most will probalby be answered, especially if they are about a provider. The fact is that most of them have been reviewed already under one name or another. It just takes a little effort. A lot of effort will go a long way. No one likes it when a new member starts out asking for "hand outs".
2. Realize that nothing is more truer than YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary. I made the mistake of expecting the same experience as others and was disappointed more than once. You will not have the same adventures as a senior with 1000 plus posts. Yet. I have had a couple really good experiences but honestly, I think that I jsut got lucky at this point.
3. Remember that there are many more mongers than girls. They will double book and make multiple appointments and therefore aren't very reliable. If she is clock watching, there is probably someone on the way or already waiting.
4. Protect yourself and your stuff. I don't take more than the donation with me. I only take the donation, my phone, my protection and my keys inside. I don't do "car dates" or pick up SW but if I did, I would make sure nothing of value was in reach. I arrive early and check out the surroundings. I take the long way to the room. I check out the room, bathroom, house, apartment etc before anything happens. I try not to give the donation until the end of the visit. If I do take it out, I place it somewhere visible and make it clear that it should stay there. The doesn't always happen and then I get "rushed" but I try. I don't talk about what is going to happen until LEO check is completed. If anything seems fishy, I bolt.
5. Negotiate. Although a provider may have a set donation, that doesn't mean that she isn't flexible. If she is unwilling to adjust the donation, either accept it or walk away. For a long time I was pretty passive and just donated whatever was stated first. Now, I will at least ask if she is willing to accept something else. I understand that it is supply vs demand and am nice about it but have also saved a few here and there. Remember that if market price (or higher) is always paid, it will continue to go up.
I think that is about it, but I am sure there is lots more that can be said by Mongers more experienced than I.Be the user or be used, brutal but true. Be in control.
Let me say one as a dancer turned provider, with a regular job / life as well, it does happen. One time years and years ago when I was only dancing, I had my kids with me and ran into someone from the club this was over off baymeadows, apparently he was blind to the fact that I had kids with me and kept following me around the grocery store like don't I know you, the whole time I am like umm no you don't and pointing to the kids.
There have been other times, as well, once I got a job at a restaurant, hired by one manager only to go in and find out my general manager was a regular of mine back in the days of Cinders. I didn't work there to long cause it was just weird. Since then here and there I have came across a few mongers, and I think we all have the same fear, is he / she going to blow my cover. I can say that probably just as much as you would want your hobby to stay a secret, we want our double lives kept in the dark as well. There are a few members of this board who I have known for 10+ years, and have seen at multiples places I have been employed at, but we are not necessarily friends that speak on a day to day basis but enough so that we can chat, only if the other person is alone. I can't speak for every provider, or every monger, but there is a reason we all go through all these necessary precautions, burner phones, google voice numbers, text apps, and what not. Everyone wants to have a good time, but there is no need for others to know about it, unless it is here and we are just giving out info for others. Just my two cents for what is worth.Good point of view from the other side of the hobby, Google, Facebook are a good resource and I don't think being completely hidden is impossible because people talk and your details will get around with Hobbyist or providers for sure. That's an extra effort I don't worry about, No burner phone, goggle voice or hidden text here, If I want to see you, you will know exactly who I am because I will know exactly who you are no matter if your name is Roxie, Trixie what ever, If I can't satisfy my need for knowledge about the lady I want to see I don't see her.
So,
It has been about a year since I took my frst trip into "mongerland" so I wanted to give a recap and offer a little advice to any new members / mongers out there. My first visit was supposed to be with Riverside Gina but when I got there, I got the "bait and switch". She had apparently double booked and sent out "a friend" (Nichelle) To take care of me. It ended up being a car visit that I donated too much for but hey, live and learn. Since then I have spent way too much (this "thing of ours" is addicting) but had mostly a good time. My best times this year have been with Gina, Rikki, Miranda, Alyssa, (haven't sen her in months due to reports) Ashley (Skittles) and the queen Maliyah. I apologize for the lack of reports but will contribute more in the future. I am going to post a few late reviews after this. Now, the advice I mentioned. (feel free to direct newbies to this post and add any of your own.).
1. Do your own research first. I trolled the forums for about six months before I made my first visit and my first post was a "thank you" to other contributers and a review. Read back a few months or so if you have questions. Most will probalby be answered, especially if they are about a provider. The fact is that most of them have been reviewed already under one name or another. It just takes a little effort. A lot of effort will go a long way. No one likes it when a new member starts out asking for "hand outs".
2. Realize that nothing is more truer than YMMV. Your Mileage May Vary. I made the mistake of expecting the same experience as others and was disappointed more than once. You will not have the same adventures as a senior with 1000 plus posts. Yet. I have had a couple really good experiences but honestly, I think that I jsut got lucky at this point.
3. Remember that there are many more mongers than girls. They will double book and make multiple appointments and therefore aren't very reliable. If she is clock watching, there is probably someone on the way or already waiting.
4. Protect yourself and your stuff. I don't take more than the donation with me. I only take the donation, my phone, my protection and my keys inside. I don't do "car dates" or pick up SW but if I did, I would make sure nothing of value was in reach. I arrive early and check out the surroundings. I take the long way to the room. I check out the room, bathroom, house, apartment etc before anything happens. I try not to give the donation until the end of the visit. If I do take it out, I place it somewhere visible and make it clear that it should stay there. The doesn't always happen and then I get "rushed" but I try. I don't talk about what is going to happen until LEO check is completed. If anything seems fishy, I bolt.
5. Negotiate. Although a provider may have a set donation, that doesn't mean that she isn't flexible. If she is unwilling to adjust the donation, either accept it or walk away. For a long time I was pretty passive and just donated whatever was stated first. Now, I will at least ask if she is willing to accept something else. I understand that it is supply vs demand and am nice about it but have also saved a few here and there. Remember that if market price (or higher) is always paid, it will continue to go up.
I think that is about it, but I am sure there is lots more that can be said by Mongers more experienced than I.I thought you did a pretty good job with your advice, just a couple things I'd like to add.
First if you have the option of outcall use it! If she's coming to your house there's almost zero chance she's a cop and you have a lot of control in your own place.
Second and while I'm not a frequenter of Street walkers there is a sure fire way to tell if a SW is a cop or not, just ask her if she needs a ride? A women police officer under no circumstances is going to get into your car, ever! Now a regular street hooker might also be cautious about entering your vehicle but she will almost always get inside if you look cool. A police woman never will and asking to give a woman a ride isn't against the law.
Stay safe my brothers. JD.
I believe with what we have now as far as tools go it does make it easier and I would imagine harder to stop. I remember my first dream. It was summer of 87. Found the ad in the village voice. Then went on to picking up the latest copy of screw magazine. While I do go on a hiatus of sorts now and then I must agree its so much easier to pick up this smarty phone and look around. Better than hitting the newsstand. LOL. Good luck JD. If you can quit buying tobacco you can quit buying ass. Just my. 02. This old chief can't quit the damn tobacco. LOL.
Wow. Had to throw this out. If only just to remember,LOL. The days of old are long gone. My first dream was in a place where you went in and about 8 girls if I remember right lined up in front of this young scout and the lady of the house told me to pick. I remember being nervous and unable to decide. She mustve picked up on this and said pick two. This is your first time isn't it. Wow. I picked this gorgeous redhead and this really fine brunette. My first threesome ever and it was amazing. I miss that scenario where there was a place you could chill out grab a drink feel completely safe and shoot the shit with the ladies. But that was many moons ago and now its pick 1 and hope for the best and hope the place isn't shady or a sting. Tonto!
BrunetteBombX
01-24-16, 12:48
Madam Kiki? I used to work for her. She had a really cool lounge room, and always had a fridge stocked with drinks / beers. All the girls wore all black dresses / heels and we would all come out at once and he got to choose. Then, walked back down into the sessions rooms, and there was massage tables, lay-down showers, etc. Does this sound familiar to you? It was a little pop up business off University, right behind the chicken place. I've always wondered what happened to Kiki. I left shorty, and went independent.
Wow. Had to throw this out. If only just to remember,LOL. The days of old are long gone. My first dream was in a place where you went in and about 8 girls if I remember right lined up in front of this young scout and the lady of the house told me to pick. I remember being nervous and unable to decide. She mustve picked up on this and said pick two. This is your first time isn't it. Wow. I picked this gorgeous redhead and this really fine brunette. My first threesome ever and it was amazing. I miss that scenario where there was a place you could chill out grab a drink feel completely safe and shoot the shit with the ladies. But that was many moons ago and now its pick 1 and hope for the best and hope the place isn't shady or a sting. Tonto!
I thought you did a pretty good job with your advice, just a couple things I'd like to add.
First if you have the option of outcall use it! If she's coming to your house there's almost zero chance she's a cop and you have a lot of control in your own place.
Second and while I'm not a frequenter of Street walkers there is a sure fire way to tell if a SW is a cop or not, just ask her if she needs a ride? A women police officer under no circumstances is going to get into your car, ever! Now a regular street hooker might also be cautious about entering your vehicle but she will almost always get inside if you look cool. A police woman never will and asking to give a woman a ride isn't against the law.
Stay safe my brothers. JD.Sorry, I strongly disagree with the outcall advice. The last thing I want is for a past dalliance whom is hard up for cash (or worse homeless) to show up at my front door because they kept my address and meet my wife. Or, they could also scope out the house and send someone to break in and try to steal from me. Als, they are opportunistic so if anything catches thier eye while in the house they will probably try to take it.
Again, it's just my 2 cents but outcalls to your residence is just a really bad idea. The risk is far, far greater than the reward. That being said, I have had Angie to my house but I have known her for many years and I do trust her as we have developed a friendship that goes beyond the client / provider relationship. Stay safe!
Sorry, I strongly disagree with the outcall advice. The last thing I want is for a past dalliance whom is hard up for cash (or worse homeless) to show up at my front door because they kept my address and meet my wife. Or, they could also scope out the house and send someone to break in and try to steal from me. Als, they are opportunistic so if anything catches thier eye while in the house they will probably try to take it.
Again, it's just my 2 cents but outcalls to your residence is just a really bad idea. The risk is far, far greater than the reward. That being said, I have had Angie to my house but I have known her for many years and I do trust her as we have developed a friendship that goes beyond the client / provider relationship. Stay safe!I think just like researching to make sure your incall you visit is a real provider you should always make sure your outcall is planned somewhat. I don't leave anything out I don't want to loose and limit alone time for them. But if I do loose something it can always be replaced, I am not married so I don't worry about someone finding out. Stuff happens though, If you don't show you have something for them to steal them they will hopefully choose the next mark. I am a firm believer or giving the vibe your more trouble trying to rob and steal from that its worth for them, most criminals are cowards unless they are crazy or stoned and I don't plan to see those types and tell them no thanks at the door. With providers working with LE to bust hobbyist with incall just scares me too much. Call me a chicken but I don't want to start my iron bar experience after all these years. Paying more and being selective seems to work better for me, I will get a room now and then too but that's only if I couldn't fill my requirements to come to my house and my hormones pushes me to see a gal.
Sorry, I strongly disagree with the outcall advice. The last thing I want is for a past dalliance whom is hard up for cash (or worse homeless) to show up at my front door because they kept my address and meet my wife. Or, they could also scope out the house and send someone to break in and try to steal from me. Als, they are opportunistic so if anything catches thier eye while in the house they will probably try to take it.
Again, it's just my 2 cents but outcalls to your residence is just a really bad idea. The risk is far, far greater than the reward. That being said, I have had Angie to my house but I have known her for many years and I do trust her as we have developed a friendship that goes beyond the client / provider relationship. Stay safe!RT, I've had so many providers to my place I've lost count and never had a single issue, not one! I'm in total control at my place and they know it but hey to each his own. I guess it really depends on your circumstances, I'm not married so that's not a concern and I've never been afraid of some provider showing up at my place unannounced. The idea that they might be scoping out my place to break in, well all can say is good luck with that. I for one would much rather them come to me than me to them, it's not even a close call for me. JD.
RT, I've had so many providers to my place I've lost count and never had a single issue, not one! I'm in total control at my place and they know it but hey to each his own. I guess it really depends on your circumstances, I'm not married so that's not a concern and I've never been afraid of some provider showing up at my place unannounced. The idea that they might be scoping out my place to break in, well all can say is good luck with that. I for one would much rather them come to me than me to them, it's not even a close call for me. JD.RT, you make good sense with your points and obviously that works for you. I however, agree completely with JD.
At my home I'm in total control, in particular the providers I have to pick up and drop off. They come and go on my schedule, not theirs, and they seem to be more cooperative while here. I like to recruit my providers from the strip clubs so that I have time (multiple visits) to get to know them and determine if they are a candidate. As a result I have ongoing happy relationships with three providers that all seem to be happy with the status quo. A side benefit of this is that I have a pretty large photo and video gallery that I can use if necessary for identification (and for my own pleasure).
I let them know (subtlely) that any unannounced visit to ask for money will terminate our relationship, and any suspicious activity will be approached armed.
RT, you make good sense with your points and obviously that works for you. I however, agree completely with JD.
At my home I'm in total control, in particular the providers I have to pick up and drop off. They come and go on my schedule, not theirs, and they seem to be more cooperative while here. I like to recruit my providers from the strip clubs so that I have time (multiple visits) to get to know them and determine if they are a candidate. As a result I have ongoing happy relationships with three providers that all seem to be happy with the status quo. A side benefit of this is that I have a pretty large photo and video gallery that I can use if necessary for identification (and for my own pleasure).
I let them know (subtlely) that any unannounced visit to ask for money will terminate our relationship, and any suspicious activity will be approached armed.Outcall is the way to go and the reality of all of this is that you have to let these girls know where you stand. They are opportunists and will prey on the week. That goes for all of them, even the ones that are everybody's favorite. If you make it clear to them you won't put up with their shenanigans than you are good. I only do outcall and all you have to do is never let them out of your sight.
RT, I've had so many providers to my place I've lost count and never had a single issue, not one! I'm in total control at my place and they know it but hey to each his own. I guess it really depends on your circumstances, I'm not married so that's not a concern and I've never been afraid of some provider showing up at my place unannounced. The idea that they might be scoping out my place to break in, well all can say is good luck with that. I for one would much rather them come to me than me to them, it's not even a close call for me. JD.Once or twice a year they get a bunch of in call busts of hobbyist but I can't remember a outcall bust of a hobbyist.
Once or twice a year they get a bunch of in call busts of hobbyist but I can't remember a outcall bust of a hobbyist.When it comes to the police outcall is by far the safest way to go. Law enforcement officials would never in a million years let an undercover police woman walk in to a situation where they don't have total control. Can you imagine the law suits that would start being filed if guns were indeed used and bullets actually started flying. It would be an absolute nightmare for local law enforcement not to mention bankrupt the city and cost many an officer their jobs. It's just not going to happen. Now setting up in a hotel room waiting for unsuspecting mongers to take the bait now that's right up their alley. But as I've mentioned many times in the past, our local LEOs seem to have other things their more interested in spending taxpayers dollars on, let's hope it stays that way. JD.
When it comes to the police outcall is by far the safest way to go. Law enforcement officials would never in a million years let an undercover police woman walk in to a situation where they don't have total control. Can you imagine the law suits that would start being filed if guns were indeed used and bullets actually started flying. It would be an absolute nightmare for local law enforcement not to mention bankrupt the city and cost many an officer their jobs. It's just not going to happen. Now setting up in a hotel room waiting for unsuspecting mongers to take the bait now that's right up their alley. But as I've mentioned many times in the past, our local LEOs seem to have other things their more interested in spending taxpayers dollars on, let's hope it stays that way. JD.I'm not going to risk the two worlds colliding. Let me be clear, LEO actually never crosses my mind but I do NOT want these people to know where I live. It's just a risk I'm not going to ever take. Over 15 years in doing this and I've never even been in a situation that has made me uncomfortable so I will keep doing what works and keeps me private. Good luck and stay safe though!
I'm not going to risk the two worlds colliding. Let me be clear, LEO actually never crosses my mind but I do NOT want these people to know where I live. It's just a risk I'm not going to ever take. Over 15 years in doing this and I've never even been in a situation that has made me uncomfortable so I will keep doing what works and keeps me private. Good luck and stay safe though!"These people" comment says a lot to your point of view your don't look at them as someone you want in your inner circle and there is nothing wrong with that, I try to choose ladies that are not doing this out of dependency but want to better themselves and that is never an exact science with my lust for a certain lady but I will try to treat them equally. The providers are not always dangerous people and are humans too so I try to treat them that way until I can't or they show me they don't deserve respect. Nothing wrong with your choice at all, you can do your homework and be safe for sure.
"These people" comment says a lot to your point of view your don't look at them as someone you want in your inner circle and there is nothing wrong with that, I try to choose ladies that are not doing this out of dependency but want to better themselves and that is never an exact science with my lust for a certain lady but I will try to treat them equally. The providers are not always dangerous people and are humans too so I try to treat them that way until I can't or they show me they don't deserve respect. Nothing wrong with your choice at all, you can do your homework and be safe for sure.Do me a favor and name one provider that you have seen that is on to better things and is a productive member of society. Productive being the key word here. Once they venture down this road, 99.9% spiral the drain.
Do me a favor and name one provider that you have seen that is on to better things and is a productive member of society. Productive being the key word here. Once they venture down this road, 99.9% spiral the drain.Talon, I can name a few that have overcome the odds. I will not name names out of respect to them. One young lady I saw for a couple of years went back to school, got a degree in education and is now a teacher. Another I was seeing 15 years ago went to college, actually was going to college at the time I was seeing her, earned a degree and is now an executive assistant with big company in one of the cities biggest building downtown. And the 3rd lady, well, she overcame more than any other. She had 2 young kids, an abusive husband that was forcing her to trick and feeding her Crack like peppermint candies. She got out, of the business and the marriage, went into a shelter for battered women, got an AA degree from FSCJ, and now is happily married again and she works for a car dealership in their finance department.
The last lady I told you about was known by many people on this board. I'm sure of it. Now I've told you about 3 that I know of that escaped and are leading productive lives. I'm sure there are many more. I agree that the odds are not good. Probably more likely that they are murdered or die of an overdose than to beat the odds. But it can happen.
I will leave you with this. I personally was involved with helping 2 of these women I told you about beat the odds. I helped them financially a little (without anything in return) and more than anything gave them moral support. They were both just good people in a bad way trying to survive. It was more satisfying to me to help them to screw them.
I've been in this a long time guys. I'm not trying to make you think I'm some kind of Saint or anything. I'm not!
I think just like researching to make sure your incall you visit is a real provider you should always make sure your outcall is planned somewhat. I don't leave anything out I don't want to loose and limit alone time for them. But if I do loose something it can always be replaced, I am not married so I don't worry about someone finding out. Stuff happens though, If you don't show you have something for them to steal them they will hopefully choose the next mark. I am a firm believer or giving the vibe your more trouble trying to rob and steal from that its worth for them, most criminals are cowards unless they are crazy or stoned and I don't plan to see those types and tell them no thanks at the door. With providers working with LE to bust hobbyist with incall just scares me too much. Call me a chicken but I don't want to start my iron bar experience after all these years. Paying more and being selective seems to work better for me, I will get a room now and then too but that's only if I couldn't fill my requirements to come to my house and my hormones pushes me to see a gal.You have be selective when you do this. There is practically no risk at all of being busted when you do an outcall (especially when you mandate she come alone). That's the only kind of provider I will ever see. Outcall and has to drive herself. It's the safest way. Even if you get a hotel yourself and do an outcall by having her come to you, do you really want the hotel experience? There are cameras everywhere in hotels. What's going to happen if you visit a provider at a hotel and she decides to shoot up right after you leave and ends up ODing? Well guess what, you are going to be the last person seen leaving her room and it will be on tape. Do you really want that in your life regardless of being married or not? Girls that will see you in hotels are junkies, and thieves. Why anyone would risk that will continue to baffle me. Pay more, have them come to you and alone. Can't put a price on safety and freedom.
KittyLikker
01-26-16, 09:09
Guys, the obvious solution is the best of both. I just have them meet me at JaxDogs place, they all know where it is. Only problem is he blows out their o-rings before I get a chance to. But hell, at least it's safe.
MouthHunter
01-26-16, 09:13
OK, I know that everyone is talking about females and pussies at Wackos, BUT OMG their food is great and nicely priced. I go to Wackos mostly during the daytime and though they have many nice ladies to fuck, Wackos has great food too!I think we have a club owner as a member! Anyway yes Harvey, your food is also good and at reasonable pricing. Make sure you keep the 2 for 1 beer specials during the entire dayshift though. That's where the gold club and scores fuck up.
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