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WeTheBest904
07-28-20, 01:55
Dude. You've been pretty active on the board lately and all I see is you complaining and asking about info on providers! Then you review one who I wouldn't even dare to go see based on looks! LOL. Me personally I've seen "Vivienne" who used to go by a different name when she was on SA and used to stay out in a nice apartment out in Bartram Park area. Now I haven't seen her since she's been posting on STG. When I did see her, from what I can tell from her STG pics, she still has a nice body (including her ass)! If you don't like what pics they post for you then don't go see them, simple as that. You act like these girls need to sit around all day and cater to "your" needs! This is their "job" and how they make their living! So yea you are wasting their time when you message them back and forth with nonsense. Either you go see for yourself or you don't. Quit beating around the Bush with silly requests when you have all the information you need from the ads and from other people that have already reviwed! Man get off your high horse and go see some Eros women is basically what you like to describe, women with touched up pics. But then again you don't like to spend $! LOL, its STG ads man classic case of YMMV, but that's basically with anyone you go see honestly. Just a risk you take in this hobby. I've been called out before when I first started out! Someone needs to call you out because you been out of control lately lmao.

OneForTheGlory
08-05-20, 18:48
I need career advice I want to be able to stand on my own.

Powerhouse100
08-05-20, 22:59
Dude. You've been pretty active on the board lately and all I see is you complaining and asking about info on providers! Then you review one who I wouldn't even dare to go see based on looks! LOL. Me personally I've seen "Vivienne" who used to go by a different name when she was on SA and used to stay out in a nice apartment out in Bartram Park area. Now I haven't seen her since she's been posting on STG. When I did see her, from what I can tell from her STG pics, she still has a nice body (including her ass)! If you don't like what pics they post for you then don't go see them, simple as that. You act like these girls need to sit around all day and cater to "your" needs! This is their "job" and how they make their living! So yea you are wasting their time when you message them back and forth with nonsense. Either you go see for yourself or you don't. Quit beating around the Bush with silly requests when you have all the information you need from the ads and from other people that have already reviwed! Man get off your high horse and go see some Eros women is basically what you like to describe, women with touched up pics. But then again you don't like to spend $! LOL, its STG ads man classic case of YMMV, but that's basically with anyone you go see honestly. Just a risk you take in this hobby. I've been called out before when I first started out! Someone needs to call you out because you been out of control lately lmao.

Hmmm- it seems Viv has a white knight! Next thing you know, you two will be walking down the aisle of hooker matrimony! Just because people don't agree with your assessment of a provider, don't get mad like a little biatch! Others have said negative things about her too, yet, you call me out! It's sad to see a so-called man get all bent out of shape over a hooker who gives 1-not 2, F's about him! Damn, sorry for late response and tell Viv I said hilo! Send me an invitation too white knight!

Powerhouse100
08-05-20, 23:47
I rarely do this but after reading this individual's past reviews, after he attacked me, it appears he's been accused of being a self-reviewer. If anyone cares to look, his reviews have been very questionable at best. He's been on the board for probably almost 4 years and only 40 something posts. That's odd and it shows you're not much of a contributor. He should read one of the reports he posted below where he accused me of doing something he also did--double standard much!? At any rate, seems Mr. Or Ms. WeTheBest904 has had a lot of issues in the past and I'd be very suspect of his / her posts! IJS.

Previous posts:

"OK. #1 Just because I respond to a post its "defensive". #2 You are wrong and I'm not that guy, sorry you got turned around for whatever reason maybe you caught her at a bad time obviously since she wanted you to be there in 5! Also I don't see how it was a "glowing" review, to each his own. I merely said she was 100% real and sexy as fawk. Didn't know posting real pics was a red flag. Listen, if you think I wasn't nervous as fuck going to see her then you're wrong! Like you guys always say to new members, TOFTT! LOL and that's exactly what I did. As far as 100 QV, I'll gladly donate my $ not yours to someone who is legit and clean any day! Compared to all this other trash on BP, sure it's easy to go ahead and tell yourself she's not real, I sure as hell did. And this "porn star" quality you speak of, you're looking in the wrong place for that man. Your tastes and my tastes are totally different, plain and simple. All I can say is if you like her look then enjoy, if not then I'm sorry. Perfect example I went to go see Sabina over at mandarin who you guys wrote this "glowing" review on. And she was just ok to me! Not everyone here is going to like what you like. Isn't that why we always say YMMV in our posts / reviews? Also I've never been with a pornstar so I don't know what quality you're looking for! You have to go see for yourself. I would try again to see her if you've already passed her "screening" process by sending a pic of your junk, LOL. I don't know what else to say. I know others here trust my reviews and you don't have to and that's fine. I only did a QV just to confirm what's there obviously and she is all there. You guys can take it for what it's worth. I'm good.

Fine with me if you guys don't dream of her! LOL fawk it take it or leave it. Like I said before your loss is my gain. Lmao oops self review again. All I know is I'm on the inside looking out now. Sucks for you guys that don't believe me but what do I know this is just a self review right. I already knew I was going to catch some flack when I reviewed her but hey you senior members can figure it out on your own. I'll be gladly hitting that while you guys are on the fence waiting to make the jump LOL. I already did for you guys and now it's a self review. Crazy how that works.

So I guess she was a self review too! Lmao you guys are too funny. This is why I don't post a lot. I guess I'll keep my "self reviews" to myself. Oh well. Guess I'll start posting non review BS stuff as well so I can be a senior member just like you guys.

Quebec and LukeCage really! And you 2 "senior member" pm me about other providers!? Lmao. I guess this is a self review too. You guys make senior members status seem like a joke. Let's not forget why we're on this forum / board. To help one another find pussy. Just cause I post a review on a provider automatically a self review! WTF is that. Look I got nothing to gain from that. If you're too pussy to go and see for yourself then I can't help you! Like I said my gain and your loss if you don't believe me on this one. I'll gladly be a regular of hers so long as she's still providing. At least I TOFTT! I don't know what the deal is with the guy but when I saw her I didn't see him around until after I left I saw a guy standing outside a door adjacent to the room somewhat smoking a cig. Could it have been him? Possibly, but there was no interruptions in my dream from him is all I'm saying.

WN and MBX. You guys are exactly right! Nail on the head how could possibly fool you guys LOL. Your loss my gain. Period. Don't need to explain myself you guys and go see for yourself but I guess since you are the SM here, you know better my mistake. Sorry. Like I said if you have the cojones to go see her then you won't be disappointed. I've posted nothing but reviews on providers and this is my first non. All you SM post some BS all the time just to get that "status". You guys are too funny. But what do I know, this is just a self review! Lmao. ".

Quebec
08-06-20, 14:03
I rarely do this but after reading this individual's past reviews, after he attacked me, it appears he's been accused of being a self-reviewer. If anyone cares to look, his reviews have been very questionable at best. He's been on the board for probably almost 4 years and only 40 something posts. That's odd and it shows you're not much of a contributor. He should read one of the reports he posted below where he accused me of doing something he also did--double standard much!? At any rate, seems Mr. Or Ms. WeTheBest904 has had a lot of issues in the past and I'd be very suspect of his / her posts! IJS.

Previous posts:

"OK. #1 Just because I respond to a post its "defensive". #2 You are wrong and I'm not that guy, sorry you got turned around for whatever reason maybe you caught her at a bad time obviously since she wanted you to be there in 5! Also I don't see how it was a "glowing" review, to each his own. I merely said she was 100% real and sexy as fawk. Didn't know posting real pics was a red flag. Listen, if you think I wasn't nervous as fuck going to see her then you're wrong! Like you guys always say to new members, TOFTT! LOL and that's exactly what I did. As far as 100 QV, I'll gladly donate my $ not yours to someone who is legit and clean any day! Compared to all this other trash on BP, sure it's easy to go ahead and tell yourself she's not real, I sure as hell did. And this "porn star" quality you speak of, you're looking in the wrong place for that man. Your tastes and my tastes are totally different, plain and simple. All I can say is if you like her look then enjoy, if not then I'm sorry. Perfect example I went to go see Sabina over at mandarin who you guys wrote this "glowing" review on. And she was just ok to me! Not everyone here is going to like what you like. Isn't that why we always say YMMV in our posts / reviews? Also I've never been with a pornstar so I don't know what quality you're looking for! You have to go see for yourself. I would try again to see her if you've already passed her "screening" process by sending a pic of your junk, LOL. I don't know what else to say. I know others here trust my reviews and you don't have to and that's fine. I only did a QV just to confirm what's there obviously and she is all there. You guys can take it for what it's worth. I'm good.

Fine with me if you guys don't dream of her! LOL fawk it take it or leave it. Like I said before your loss is my gain. Lmao oops self review again. All I know is I'm on the inside looking out now. Sucks for you guys that don't believe me but what do I know this is just a self review right. I already knew I was going to catch some flack when I reviewed her but hey you senior members can figure it out on your own. I'll be gladly hitting that while you guys are on the fence waiting to make the jump LOL. I already did for you guys and now it's a self review. Crazy how that works.

So I guess she was a self review too! Lmao you guys are too funny. This is why I don't post a lot. I guess I'll keep my "self reviews" to myself. Oh well. Guess I'll start posting non review BS stuff as well so I can be a senior member just like you guys.

Quebec and LukeCage really! And you 2 "senior member" pm me about other providers!? Lmao. I guess this is a self review too. You guys make senior members status seem like a joke. Let's not forget why we're on this forum / board. To help one another find pussy. Just cause I post a review on a provider automatically a self review! WTF is that. Look I got nothing to gain from that. If you're too pussy to go and see for yourself then I can't help you! Like I said my gain and your loss if you don't believe me on this one. I'll gladly be a regular of hers so long as she's still providing. At least I TOFTT! I don't know what the deal is with the guy but when I saw her I didn't see him around until after I left I saw a guy standing outside a door adjacent to the room somewhat smoking a cig. Could it have been him? Possibly, but there was no interruptions in my dream from him is all I'm saying.

WN and MBX. You guys are exactly right! Nail on the head how could possibly fool you guys LOL. Your loss my gain. Period. Don't need to explain myself you guys and go see for yourself but I guess since you are the SM here, you know better my mistake. Sorry. Like I said if you have the cojones to go see her then you won't be disappointed. I've posted nothing but reviews on providers and this is my first non. All you SM post some BS all the time just to get that "status". You guys are too funny. But what do I know, this is just a self review! Lmao. ".Hey, what did I do? LOL.

Powerhouse100
08-06-20, 14:52
Hey, what did I do? LOL.LOL- you didn't do anything. I was just listing some of this guy's reviews showing he seemed to have a pattern of getting into it with members in the past. You're good!

Quebec
08-06-20, 15:06
LOL- you didn't do anything. I was just listing some of this guy's reviews showing he seemed to have a pattern of getting into it with members in the past. You're good!Oh I see, that was a copy of his post. Gotcha!

WeTheBest904
08-06-20, 21:33
You win. I guess I'm this white knight you speak of. LOL. I don't post much because I have my regulars which you're still searching for. Oh and great job copy and pasting. Here's a throwback of a massage provider (if any of you were lucky enough to see her) I'm still seeing.

Powerhouse100
08-07-20, 10:00
You win. I guess I'm this white knight you speak of. LOL. I don't post much because I have my regulars which you're still searching for. Oh and great job copy and pasting. Here's a throwback of a massage provider (if any of you were lucky enough to see her) I'm still seeing.Stop being weird and grow up.

WeTheBest904
08-07-20, 12:06
Stop being weird and grow up.I told you already you won man. I'm bowing out.

Red Talon
08-07-20, 12:48
You win. I guess I'm this white knight you speak of. LOL. I don't post much because I have my regulars which you're still searching for. Oh and great job copy and pasting. Here's a throwback of a massage provider (if any of you were lucky enough to see her) I'm still seeing.Just keep in mind that asshole / douchebags come and go to the forum all of the time. Not worth expending energy interacting with them, just toss them on the ignore list and eventually they ALWAYS fade away.

The forum has changed drastically since the Backpage days I think due to the unrelenting pressure on human trafficking spreading into other areas. Less info about girls and more guys clucking like old hens just to hear themselves. Stay safe!

JZetoro19
08-07-20, 15:29
Just keep in mind that asshole / douchebags come and go to the forum all of the time. Not worth expending energy interacting with them, just toss them on the ignore list and eventually they ALWAYS fade away.

The forum has changed drastically since the Backpage days I think due to the unrelenting pressure on human trafficking spreading into other areas. Less info about girls and more guys clucking like old hens just to hear themselves. Stay safe!I second this one. You run into the ones that types with their nose in the air or the ones that feel entitled. The point on this forum is to help each other out, to an extent.

Red Talon
08-07-20, 16:10
I second this one. You run into the ones that types with their nose in the air or the ones that feel entitled. The point on this forum is to help each other out, to an extent.I think that is also part of the reason guys don't post reviews as much as they could. When you post a positive review you have loudmouth assholes accusing you of "white knighting". I've been told that guys will tell a girl "if you don't give me a good price I will post a negative review".

Not sure who to believe but some guys on here are just scummy enough to pull something like that.

Powerhouse100
08-07-20, 17:09
I think that is also part of the reason guys don't post reviews as much as they could. When you post a positive review you have loudmouth assholes accusing you of "white knighting". I've been told that guys will tell a girl "if you don't give me a good price I will post a negative review".

Not sure who to believe but some guys on here are just scummy enough to pull something like that.Yeah Red, I hear ya. You act just like a little biatch too. I mean, you posted something against me because I didn't agree with your assessment of Valentina the Latina. Actually, the real reason you posted it against me was because over here in the woodshed, I didn't agree with your stupid political views and after that, you came after me about Valentina, trying to make an argument with me about me saying she smelled like ass! And she did! It wasn't so much about Valentina as it was about you getting beat up about your political views, which I give 2 Fccks about! I mean, you tried to call me out by saying I lied about the girl's arse smell but the question is, were you there!? You and this "WeTheBest904 " or whatever he / she goes by, belong together! I rarely see you post anything of value! Think about it, Red agreed with someone who reviewed Valentina and it was this person's first post (self-post?) and now he's in the amen corner with someone who has ONLY 40 something posts and has been on here for 4 years! Two non-contributors! Red probably never even seen Valentina--he probably lied about seeing her just so he could start some dumb shit with me!

Most of the time, you come on here trying to give advice, as if we need your stupid advice! At any rate, I won't participate in your boyfriend and your foolish diatribe as this is my last word on dealing with you on stupidity. I can argue against the best of them partner but you and the other idiot aren't worth my time! Look at my reviews and look at your posts and let others judge who is actually posting valuable information--I'm sure I'll win by a long shot! Not that I'm competing with you! I guess you'll say like the other idiot that you don't post much because you have UTRs. Fine, don't post because no one needs your useless advice anyway. You 2 idiots! Frick and freck!

Powerhouse100
08-07-20, 17:47
Sorry Red, I just remembered something:

You need to quit loaning hookers money and not share your account information especially if you don't want hookers ordering shit. Throat Goddess said you were an arrogant asshole anyways and that even your wife can't even tolerate your ass!

Now I'm sure you know what I'm talking about or should I elaborate further!? LOL.

PlayTiem
08-09-20, 01:36
Obama, they might have said some stupid things about "you didn't build it"This stemmed from a misunderstood antecedent.

The "it" Obama was referring to was the road that lead to the business, NOT the business itself. YOU didn't build the road that led to your business (well, not most people anyways).

He was talking about how we need society's support web to succeed individually. You can't have a successful retail store if customers can't get to your store, or if they get shot or abducted along the way, or if they die from buying tainted meat from you the first time around.

This is clear if one listens to the whole thing (or at least a few sentences on either side) instead of slicing up the sound like was done so frequently back in the day.

Say what you want about the man, his presidency, or his politics (I mean, I think he was demonstrably to the right of Reagan, but that's an opinion), but the persistence of this mis-quote irritates me to this day, which is why I'm replying to an old post after having not been on the board for awhile.

Also, yes, he said other things. I'm not commenting on other things he said or didn't say. Just this.

DWaltonXXX
08-13-20, 17:24
That's strange. I have hundreds of posts and dozens of reviews and nobody has ever accused me of white knighting.

You think. Maybe. It's because not every positive review is considered "white knighting"?


I think that is also part of the reason guys don't post reviews as much as they could. When you post a positive review you have loudmouth assholes accusing you of "white knighting". I've been told that guys will tell a girl "if you don't give me a good price I will post a negative review".

Not sure who to believe but some guys on here are just scummy enough to pull something like that.

MekaleKahi
08-13-20, 18:37
Honest question, I've never done one because the idea of being in public and getting caught freaks me out. Do you go to like the back of a Walmart parking lot and try to blend in, or what? How does this actually work? I'm open to trying it but I'd do well to have some understanding of what exactly the parameters are. How do you not get seen or be inconspicuous about it. Inbox is fine, any experienced member that wants to help me out is appreciated.

NeckAuthority
08-14-20, 00:18
Honest question, I've never done one because the idea of being in public and getting caught freaks me out. Do you go to like the back of a Walmart parking lot and try to blend in, or what? How does this actually work? I'm open to trying it but I'd do well to have some understanding of what exactly the parameters are. How do you not get seen or be inconspicuous about it. Inbox is fine, any experienced member that wants to help me out is appreciated.Probably get more responses in the SW thread. Literally their backyard. Anywho tint and sun shields and ya pretty much good in any parking lot. Nobody looking for your car. If you got tiny they would really have to strain their eyes. Plus your in Fl you should have tint anywho LOL.

Stewie Griffin
08-29-20, 00:57
Is anyone else a member. Trying to figure out who this one girl is.

AMnnos
11-30-20, 10:41
Here's a scenario that I'm dealing with.

I knew this woman for years through mutual friends. She was married, had her own business, and even though she was never rude, she kinda acted like she was a little above everyone. But, she's hot, and many have lusted over her for years.

Following her in social media over the years, I witnessed her divorce, apparent addiction to pills, her phase of only dating women because she's sick of men, etc. I'd comment on her pics, donate to her random "fund raisers", etc, but she never really had any reactions to anything I would post (all respectful stuff).

Well, I saw an ad recently and she's selling her pussy here in Jacksonville. I've fantasized for over 10 years about how her nude body would look, seeing her face with ME making her cum, and how it would be to fuck her, but she never gave me the time of day!

Would you text her, and just show up and see how she reacts? I'm wondering how this would play out. She'll instantly know it's me. Will she be embarrassed? Will it work out in my favor? I'm on the fence, but I want to check that box in my mind, and get that pussy. Pay or not! Thoughts?First give me her name, number, and a couple pics and I'll do a date with her to test the waters for you. After we're done, I'll let her know that, you being a mutual friend, is lusting after her.

Ha! J / k.

A straight up answer to your dilemma is, Why the fuck not? Fair game. You both want something. I'd say dive right in, but approach with finesse when you contact her. That way it's easier on the initial shock of her knowing that you know. I'm sure there will be a bit of an embarrassment on her part, being that she was an independent self-relying woman with some stature under her belt. If you conduct yourself accordingly, she'll realize itll work in both of your favor that fact that she knows you.

Not too long ago, I had a coworker that wound up selling pussy. Once she knew that it was me she was shocked and embarrassed at first. But after soothing out her uneasiness, things worked out well for the both of us.

Ain't it weird tho, how some of these ladies get to where they have to sell pussy in order to get by? It's like they had it all once, then BAM! They're gettin paid to suck dick and bend over. LOL. Its especially weird when you had some sort of personal connection to them. At the same time its refreshing.

I have, or at least had, a dilemma much like yours not too long ago. My story, uhmmm, I don't know if I should put it out there. Eats at me at times. Lordy🙄.

ShaggyJax
12-06-20, 07:55
To anyone that believes that my post in the Escort thread about Liza Blair was to start a fight is incorrect. That was not my intent at all. I was just offering up my view of the passing scene.

Shaggy.

I didn't think it was, I knew it was. That's why I got rid of it, if you want to post it here feel free.

You won't write the same stuff, you will say you did and plead your innocence but you were for sure, 100% tossing a hand grenade to see who jumped.

A2

Member #6355
12-06-20, 13:04
Honest question, I've never done one because the idea of being in public and getting caught freaks me out. Do you go to like the back of a Walmart parking lot and try to blend in, or what? How does this actually work? I'm open to trying it but I'd do well to have some understanding of what exactly the parameters are. How do you not get seen or be inconspicuous about it. Inbox is fine, any experienced member that wants to help me out is appreciated.Fortunately for this particular purpose, Jacksonville is "blessed" with a multitude of abandoned malls, strip malls, and other vacant areas that were built with their own parking lots, also now abandoned. If you drive around just a bit in any direction, you'll find a location within minutes.

JameyDean
12-06-20, 13:47
This stemmed from a misunderstood antecedent.

The "it" Obama was referring to was the road that lead to the business, NOT the business itself. YOU didn't build the road that led to your business (well, not most people anyways).

He was talking about how we need society's support web to succeed individually. You can't have a successful retail store if customers can't get to your store, or if they get shot or abducted along the way, or if they die from buying tainted meat from you the first time around.

This is clear if one listens to the whole thing (or at least a few sentences on either side) instead of slicing up the sound like was done so frequently back in the day.

Say what you want about the man, his presidency, or his politics (I mean, I think he was demonstrably to the right of Reagan, but that's an opinion), but the persistence of this mis-quote irritates me to this day, which is why I'm replying to an old post after having not been on the board for awhile.

Also, yes, he said other things. I'm not commenting on other things he said or didn't say. Just this.In a communist brain from the dark continent sure.

ShaggyJax
12-06-20, 13:56
To anyone that believes that my post in the Escort thread about Liza Blair was to start a fight is incorrect. That was not my intent at all. I was just offering up my view of the passing scene.

Shaggy.

I didn't think it was, I knew it was. That's why I got rid of it, if you want to post it here feel free.

You won't write the same stuff, you will say you did and plead your innocence but you were for sure, 100% tossing a hand grenade to see who jumped.

A2Unfortunately, I don't know what hand grenade I tossed. I really don't. Please let me know by PM. That might make it more clear.

Shaggy.

AMnnos
12-12-20, 20:31
Are you really talking shit on somone for giving a review? I don't give a fuck what's got her busy all day nor do I really care. I pay girls to give a decent blowjob not fall asleep. If you can't manage that then you can absolutely expect a negative review just like with anything else. Gtfo out of here with your white knight bs.If you're going to attempt to be an online tough guy, at least bring it to the right thread.

And please explain to me how I white knighted a girl. I never disputed the guys review.

I apologize if I hurt your feelings. Jeezus🙄

PlayTiem
12-13-20, 13:05
In a communist brain from the dark continent sure.You should go back to licking shit off the walls, because posting something that makes sense is clearly beyond your abilities.

JameyDean
12-13-20, 13:08
You should go back to licking shit off the walls, because posting something that makes sense is clearly beyond your abilities.Because you come from another world.

NeckAuthority
12-28-20, 08:10
I wonder why it matters if she leaves not being argumentative but just curious the only few bad reviews I've seen about her at okay except the one you have written about her I don't mean it's okay to write a bad review but to bash somebody when someone else may enjoy her company I for one do and if you didn't have a good experience maybe it was a off day for her I always try at least twice first visit always a little off cause of nerves or whatever but sometimes the second one is better.Can obviously tell a female wrote this. Its not just clint every other post regarding bubbles is the same. The multiple post I wrote of you, I mean her as well. Again Not trying to be mean, but with this "profession" looks are taken into consideration. She is beyond ugly, and if you see her going to another provider, will take the steam out of you. No she does not look better in person. Almost unreal scary even. I seen her going to a provider, and I turned tail. That thing bad for business. Please become another city problem.

DarkMan2020
01-09-21, 10:12
Can obviously tell a female wrote this. Its not just clint every other post regarding bubbles is the same. The multiple post I wrote of you, I mean her as well. Again Not trying to be mean, but with this "profession" looks are taken into consideration. She is beyond ugly, and if you see her going to another provider, will take the steam out of you. No she does not look better in person. Almost unreal scary even. I seen her going to a provider, and I turned tail. That thing bad for business. Please become another city problem.To be truthful I'm a man of 34 years in age if she's so ugly then by all means you didn't have to see her but why would you or anyone continue to bash her cause what you don't like someone else might that all I'm saying I just don't understand is she bothering you or hassling you for dates or money if not then why would you even comment just shows the immaturity level of you and the other mongers and I know A2 will probably ban me and remove this but just shows how this site works let's bash a girl for her looks even know one we don't know her or have even done a date with her you say you saw her going to another providers and as well as the comment about every other posts about her which ones the ones you and Clint wrote get real dude grow up and act like a man instead of a child and once again I'm definitely not a woman but have a good one no argument just don't understand why say something about someone if you have no interest in them beats me good day.

Bobb Sledd
01-09-21, 17:18
To be truthful I'm a man of 34 years in age if she's so ugly then by all means you didn't have to see her but why would you or anyone continue to bash her cause what you don't like someone else might that all I'm saying I just don't understand is she bothering you or hassling you for dates or money if not then why would you even comment just shows the immaturity level of you and the other mongers and I know A2 will probably ban me and remove this but just shows how this site works let's bash a girl for her looks even know one we don't know her or have even done a date with her you say you saw her going to another providers and as well as the comment about every other posts about her which ones the ones you and Clint wrote get real dude grow up and act like a man instead of a child and once again I'm definitely not a woman but have a good one no argument just don't understand why say something about someone if you have no interest in them beats me good day.In those 34 years you never learned punctuation? 198 words and only one period? Virtually unreadable!

Powerhouse100
01-09-21, 17:33
In those 34 years you never learned punctuation? 198 words and only one period? Virtually unreadable!Bobb that shet was funny as heck! LOL.

ClitEastwoodJx
01-09-21, 22:03
Can obviously tell a female wrote this. Its not just clint every other post regarding bubbles is the same. The multiple post I wrote of you, I mean her as well. Again Not trying to be mean, but with this "profession" looks are taken into consideration. She is beyond ugly, and if you see her going to another provider, will take the steam out of you. No she does not look better in person. Almost unreal scary even. I seen her going to a provider, and I turned tail. That thing bad for business. Please become another city problem.I think I've mentioned her twice in my life, not every other post.

DarkMan2020
01-10-21, 22:14
I think I've mentioned her twice in my life, not every other post.If you never seen here and don't plan on it. Then why are you even talking about her at all. Your option of her is irrelevant considering you haven't seen her but in passing supposedly. So with that being said leave the reviews to people who actually Jane instead of bashing a girl that's just trying to make a dollar have a great day.

Red Talon
01-11-21, 13:52
If you never seen here and don't plan on it. Then why are you even talking about her at all. Your option of her is irrelevant considering you haven't seen her but in passing supposedly. So with that being said leave the reviews to people who actually Jane instead of bashing a girl that's just trying to make a dollar have a great day.Yes, leave it to the questionable person who only has done one review and is now white knighting her. At least make up some additional reviews so you at least appear to be believable.

You did one "review" and then proceeded to argue. Not a good look, don't have a good day and basically go fuck yourself.

NeckAuthority
01-11-21, 22:44
I know I make multiple post about her, yet really. Thought this was an informational forum. I haven't been on this board as long as others, and can say one thing I seen. Hell even happened to me once. Someone dream a provider because of 1 review that shined light in the darkness. Turns out there was a reason why so many say what they said. Then guess what comes here to complain. I would understand if the darkman say, "its a hole that gets the job done". Then I probably leave it at that. Yet going out of your way to stand up for her? For what? Good lawd thought this be the one place where we can avoid that sensitivity b. S. I just hate people being mislead. YMMV so to each their own but be honest and don't sugarcoat it for the doe's, it ultimately helps them in the end as well.

PlayTiem
01-12-21, 14:09
To be truthful I'm a man of 34 years in age if she's so ugly then by all means you didn't have to see her but why would you or anyone continue to bash her cause what you don't like someone else might that all I'm saying I just don't understand is she bothering you or hassling you for dates or money if not then why would you even comment just shows the immaturity level of you and the other mongers and I know A2 will probably ban me and remove this but just shows how this site works let's bash a girl for her looks even know one we don't know her or have even done a date with her you say you saw her going to another providers and as well as the comment about every other posts about her which ones the ones you and Clint wrote get real dude grow up and act like a man instead of a child and once again I'm definitely not a woman but have a good one no argument just don't understand why say something about someone if you have no interest in them beats me good day.To be truthful, one thing I've learned in life is if someone says "to be honest" (or similar), they're most likely about to lie to you.

An observation: the specific way you ramble is more the way that women ramble than the way that men do.

JBird76
02-11-21, 00:43
Look LT, noone is pulling a freakin scam, just because you can't get the experiences that we had received you call us scamming. Thats uncalled for, if anything your should be removed. So what you are telling me is that I can't report of my experiences; isn't this what the site is for.

We are all stood up even from best providers that we all agreed are legitimately stellar. Example, I have yet been able to date Summer because her coms to me is lurky, I texted a hand full with some replys then goes dark.

Took me several trys to dream with Bizzy, BB Brandy etc. But, eventually I got to see them. But when comes was bad or ladies turnout not so great as compared to reviews, I'm not going to freakin hold it against people reporting positive dreams, because I can't get my foot in the door.

Another question comes to mind. You mentioned dirty talks as a tech that you use to weed out ladies. Many girls hate that shit, it's demeaning and disrespectful. I respect all girls that I date. Often than not I receive great service. You may want to change your approach. Just sayin.

Again, I'm not promoting anyone, I'm sharing my experiences only, and her number was not listed, I had it and offered to share it. You are wrong with what you are suggesting.Bunch of jackasses to suggest removal for sharing our experiences. She is a cool girl and I'm glad some of these assholes never got to meet her. BTW she is active again for the moment but not sure how long.

GWS69
02-25-21, 21:09
So the mention of Thursday was simply deception, not benefical info to your fellow monger. Means you know she would be upset of your post. I think your full of shit and can't admit a mistake.


I am far from a Rookie for I have been a monger for over 25 years. I wrote Thursday but it was not that day. I have seen Lily many times and there has never been an issue and by the way, she has never ask me not to post.

TankerJo
03-02-21, 21:32
So the mention of Thursday was simply deception, not benefical info to your fellow monger. Means you know she would be upset of your post. I think your full of shit and can't admit a mistake.So. If he gives you the accurate date of his visit, then he is betraying the provider with incriminating info, but if he gives a DIFFERENT date in order NOT to betray the provider, then he is lying and thus full of shit. Am I understanding this right?

For the record, his info mirrors my experience, so I say he is NOT full of shit, but rather being unfairly slandered for whatever reason.

Seriously man, where is this aggression coming from?

GWS69
03-03-21, 22:40
If he gives the accurate date he betrays himself and the provider knows who he is. He gave a different date to deceive the provider because he knows she will figure out who he is and be upset. Obviously he, you and I know that this shop does not like to be posted on in this manner. I did not question his experience, I clearly stated this spa is great. He is fos because his response was bs.

Aggregated cause I have not seen Lily for awhile, and don't want some rookie screwing it up.

Understood?


So. If he gives you the accurate date of his visit, then he is betraying the provider with incriminating info, but if he gives a DIFFERENT date in order NOT to betray the provider, then he is lying and thus full of shit. Am I understanding this right?

For the record, his info mirrors my experience, so I say he is NOT full of shit, but rather being unfairly slandered for whatever reason.

Seriously man, where is this aggression coming from?

SCGuy469
03-06-21, 12:23
If he gives the accurate date he betrays himself and the provider knows who he is. He gave a different date to deceive the provider because he knows she will figure out who he is and be upset. Obviously he, you and I know that this shop does not like to be posted on in this manner. I did not question his experience, I clearly stated this spa is great. He is fos because his response was bs.

Aggregated cause I have not seen Lily for awhile, and don't want some rookie screwing it up.

Understood?GWS69, you have now changed your story. You first said I was a Rookie because I gave the day I was actually there and I did not give a different date to deceive Lily for she does not read the reviews. Period, that shows how well you do not know her. I gave a different date because I wanted my fellow mongers to know it was a recent experience that they could count on and the actual day does not matter. So which is it. If I give the correct day, I am a Rookie and if I give a different day, I am trying to deceive. You simply got caught up on something that you know nothing about and when you were called out on it, you changed your story. I also wonder why the Powers to Be allowed you to post your statements, since they had nothing to do with reporting one's experience, which is what this site is all about. My experience with Lily, at Tai Chi, was exceptional and she is a true machine that really enjoys her work and has a great menu & attitude.

Red Talon
03-07-21, 15:43
GWS69, you have now changed your story. You first said I was a Rookie because I gave the day I was actually there and I did not give a different date to deceive Lily for she does not read the reviews. Period, that shows how well you do not know her. I gave a different date because I wanted my fellow mongers to know it was a recent experience that they could count on and the actual day does not matter. So which is it. If I give the correct day, I am a Rookie and if I give a different day, I am trying to deceive. You simply got caught up on something that you know nothing about and when you were called out on it, you changed your story. I also wonder why the Powers to Be allowed you to post your statements, since they had nothing to do with reporting one's experience, which is what this site is all about. My experience with Lily, at Tai Chi, was exceptional and she is a true machine that really enjoys her work and has a great menu & attitude.Worse than a bunch of old women, what the fuck is wrong with you guys?

JaxRedLight
03-14-21, 21:34
Has anyone else heard about the guy in a black truck getting women to do car dates and then throwing them out of the vehicle when they are naked? Then he is driving off with all of their clothes, phone, etc.

Described as a 'very proper AA, muscular, with cop vibes. ' One of the women he pulled it on told me about it today at the pot luck after church.

RichardCohen
03-14-21, 23:02
Has anyone else heard about the guy in a black truck getting women to do car dates and then throwing them out of the vehicle when they are naked? Then he is driving off with all of their clothes, phone, etc.

Described as a 'very proper AA, muscular, with cop vibes. ' One of the women he pulled it on told me about it today at the pot luck after church.A vice officer matching this description may have just been released from federal prison.

IrishGringo2
03-15-21, 15:56
The woodshed for? Or supposed to be for?

ToeLover
03-15-21, 23:26
The woodshed for? Or supposed to be for?Pretty much general bitchiness like women where you argue with other posters about stupid shit. It's where you post whatever you want that doesn't have anything to do with the mission of the forums (finding pussy).

Bobb Sledd
03-16-21, 03:09
The woodshed for? Or supposed to be for?Cut and pasted from the beginning of the thread:

The Woodshed.

Since you guys refuse to stay on topic in ANY review thread I've given you a space for your unending arguments. There are other threads like this around the forum, Cincy has The Octagon, Detroit has Motor City Madness, in Boston it's The Thunderdome. In keeping with Jacksonville's southern identity I thought The Woodshed was appropriate since it was the place Pappy took you to tan your hide.

There are a different set of rules in here. I won't redact fighting, you can call each other cocksuckers, stupid motherfuckers, whatever you want but no hate speech. The words, nigger, spick, kike, jap (but not Jap.) dot, ect. Or any use of words intended to be racially or ethnically derogatory are still not allowed.

You may not post arrest or legal issues, nor unfounded STD reports, and as always absolutely nothing about anybody under the age of 18. Mostly what you can do it argue. What this means of course if there is ZERO tolerance on the review threads for that now. Normally it takes one infraction for a regular member to get put on permanent moderation and two for a senior to go back on. In Jax now that number is the same for both, 1.

A2.

Stewie Griffin
03-27-21, 14:35
I've posted several ads on stg. But I can never see them. I've had others look and they can't see them but the link works. Anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong and why they aren't showing up. Here's the link to one of them. I've posted 4 different ads in different categories but still can't see them unless I use the link.

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/massage/these-girls-will-rob-you/128310757866

AMnnos
03-27-21, 15:47
I've posted several ads on stg. But I can never see them. I've had others look and they can't see them but the link works. Anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong and why they aren't showing up. Here's the link to one of them. I've posted 4 different ads in different categories but still can't see them unless I use the link.

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/massage/these-girls-will-rob-you/128310757866Using STGs "Find Escorts" function and keying in words you used like "rob", "beware" and "money", I came up nada. There WAS one that someone put out on a Paula Garcia chic aka Bella. Some out-of-town hoe. I'm not a techie type of guy so I have no idea why it's not doing what it's supposed to do.

Fist-bump kudos for taking the time and effort putting the warning out on some of these thieving time-wasting skanks. It's good that you put it out on STGs platform so it reaches a broader audience. Hopefully that would drown out their bullshit and either make them leave the biz or or yield good service. I did the same thing from time to time when BP was up.

Just a thought though; if you could add their contact info, their exact place of business, and maybe some other relevant detail to further expose them, that would definitely paint a better picture. But like I said, just a thought.

Pleasant day and good job👍.

*Amanda needs to quit with her bullshit pics and videos and let me fuck that ass😄

TailBlazing
03-27-21, 17:41
I hooked up with her and she was actually very pleasant. Allowed dfk but does have other rules. Probably won't repeat because she's about 50 lbs heavier than the pics indicate.

Like all girls though, someone has a decent experience and someone gets robbed or something negative. Always hit and miss.


Using STGs "Find Escorts" function and keying in words you used like "rob", "beware" and "money", I came up nada. There WAS one that someone put out on a Paula Garcia chic aka Bella. Some out-of-town hoe. I'm not a techie type of guy so I have no idea why it's not doing what it's supposed to do.

Fist-bump kudos for taking the time and effort putting the warning out on some of these thieving time-wasting skanks. It's good that you put it out on STGs platform so it reaches a broader audience. Hopefully that would drown out their bullshit and either make them leave the biz or or yield good service. I did the same thing from time to time when BP was up.

Just a thought though; if you could add their contact info, their exact place of business, and maybe some other relevant detail to further expose them, that would definitely paint a better picture. But like I said, just a thought.

Pleasant day and good job👍.

*Amanda needs to quit with her bullshit pics and videos and let me fuck that ass😄

TailBlazing
03-27-21, 17:42
After you deep dick one of the stg girls on here ask them to show you how to post.


I've posted several ads on stg. But I can never see them. I've had others look and they can't see them but the link works. Anybody have any idea what I'm doing wrong and why they aren't showing up. Here's the link to one of them. I've posted 4 different ads in different categories but still can't see them unless I use the link.

http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/massage/these-girls-will-rob-you/128310757866

AMnnos
03-27-21, 19:04
I hooked up with her and she was actually very pleasant. Allowed dfk but does have other rules. Probably won't repeat because she's about 50 lbs heavier than the pics indicate.

Like all girls though, someone has a decent experience and someone gets robbed or something negative. Always hit and miss.She came off as blatantly rude and b!+chy. I'm guessing she was gettin hit up by guys wanting contact fun when in fact she was advertising just selling pic and vids. This was thru CL where I had found her at. She made some statement about "No, I don't do meets. I'm just selling pics and vids. " She seemed annoyed that I asked. I ended our text but she had hmu on several occassions after, again pushing her p-and-v sales on me. Now I'm annoyed and told her flat out that I'm not interested. THEEEN, she hits me up again and gives in to doing a meet but was asking for an exuberant amount dineros but of course it was followed with all the "No's" which was, again, annoying. She hmu agreeing for a date but all I'm allowed to do is cherish her presence I guess. Oh, almost forgot: "CashApp me" Wrong!

Shes also posted on CL that shes "looking for a job". Well yeah, so am I. Blowjob. Anyone wanna take a chance with giving her legitimate employment?

Amanda must have fucked someone over bcuz the individual had posted a Stay Away warning on CL. **Stewie, Was that you? Lmao😆.

Stewie Griffin
03-27-21, 19:17
She came off as blatantly rude and b!+chy. I'm guessing she was gettin hit up by guys wanting contact fun when in fact she was advertising just selling pic and vids. This was thru CL where I had found her at. She made some statement about "No, I don't do meets. I'm just selling pics and vids. " She seemed annoyed that I asked. I ended our text but she had hmu on several occassions after, again pushing her p-and-v sales on me. Now I'm annoyed and told her flat out that I'm not interested. THEEEN, she hits me up again and gives in to doing a meet but was asking for an exuberant amount dineros but of course it was followed with all the "No's" which was, again, annoying. She hmu agreeing for a date but all I'm allowed to do is cherish her presence I guess. Oh, almost forgot: "CashApp me" Wrong!

Shes also posted on CL that shes "looking for a job". Well yeah, so am I. Blowjob. Anyone wanna take a chance with giving her legitimate employment?

Amanda must have fucked someone over bcuz the individual had posted a Stay Away warning on CL. **Stewie, Was that you? Lmao😆.Nope. That one wasn't me. LOL.

NeckAuthority
03-28-21, 01:23
Shames me to say, I haven't seen a provider in months.

Just been going to my utrs, but their not to reliable. Sometimes a month gap between each visit. Now with the Stimulus they went dark LOL. So long story short, I was out and found a couple VR headsets for only 3 bucks, I'm like why not.

Got home, confused as hell setting it up, but hey got the bad lassy up. Pretty neat then light bulb goes off LOL. Let's see how these boys do in the theater room, aka el banő. Man, almost want to shed a tear. These things are genius. Turned the guilty pleasure into a performance at the San Carlo. Going through my vintage catalog for the next show LOL.

Just had to share, because damn the quality of gals on & off the streets is putrid, or a setup. Hopefully the scene rebounds soon. Yet with how Tik Tok teaching the mass how to b financial dependent LOL.

PlayTiem
03-29-21, 13:29
Using STGs "Find Escorts" function and keying in words you used like "rob", "beware" and "money", I came up nada. There WAS one that someone put out on a Paula Garcia chic aka Bella. Some out-of-town hoe. I'm not a techie type of guy so I have no idea why it's not doing what it's supposed to do.

Fist-bump kudos for taking the time and effort putting the warning out on some of these thieving time-wasting skanks. It's good that you put it out on STGs platform so it reaches a broader audience. Hopefully that would drown out their bullshit and either make them leave the biz or or yield good service. I did the same thing from time to time when BP was up.

Just a thought though; if you could add their contact info, their exact place of business, and maybe some other relevant detail to further expose them, that would definitely paint a better picture. But like I said, just a thought.Well, that one he posted was in the Massage section, not the Escort section.

I'm guessing they're flagging them based on keywords, and just quarantining them. Not deleting them, but not linking to them in the main lists.

The keyword search doesn't just extend to the title of the post, it also includes the body. I tried searching for "money" in Massages, and there were a few other posts that showed up, but not that one.

If you want to try posting something that defeats the keyword filters (assuming I'm right), I'd recommend getting out your thesaurus. Try "these ladies will take your money without providing any services" or "this girl and her partner will leave you with more stress than you arrived with" or something similar.

Fishguy717
04-17-21, 12:13
Not sure where else to put this, but I've used the 'contact us' form twice in the past month with no response. And I did check my spam folder, it's not there either. Just thought I'd let you know in case you want to check it. Thank you.

Stewie Griffin
04-17-21, 21:16
After you deep dick one of the stg girls on here ask them to show you how to post.I think someone flagged me and if they do you have to send in a verification pic with a sign to verify it's you In the pics in the ad. That's the only thing I can think of.

TomCat4871
04-23-21, 11:23
You guys ever get this kind of text? Lately, it's as if my number got out, and I've been getting hit about every week or two from a number not in my google voice. The conversation usually turns into an emergency. And its never something you can help out directly. The last chic said something about her mom in a car accident and on life support and she needs to get to Gainesville. When I say "ok, I'll take you there" she's like, "no, its better if I go myself" or otherwise finds an excuse of some kind. LOL.

HeadRooster
04-23-21, 12:16
You guys ever get this kind of text? Lately, it's as if my number got out, and I've been getting hit about every week or two from a number not in my google voice. The conversation usually turns into an emergency. And its never something you can help out directly. The last chic said something about her mom in a car accident and on life support and she needs to get to Gainesville. When I say "ok, I'll take you there" she's like, "no, its better if I go myself" or otherwise finds an excuse of some kind. LOL.I've received this one 3 x over the last 2 weeks from different cell numbers.

I always respond with " cool, tell me where you are located, and I'll meet you at a local gas station ".

Then of course the excuses start, then after I counter every one you guessed it " can't you send me the money " SMH.

Guys must fall for it as I would assume they / he would stop trying this stupid scam.

TomCat4871
04-24-21, 16:54
I see restaurants posting about having trouble finding staff due to the stimulus. My google voice is a barren field, I can barely get anyone to respond more than a text or two then disappear and not close a deal.

Stewie Griffin
04-24-21, 21:18
I've received this one 3 x over the last 2 weeks from different cell numbers.

I always respond with " cool, tell me where you are located, and I'll meet you at a local gas station ".

Then of course the excuses start, then after I counter every one you guessed it " can't you send me the money " SMH.

Guys must fall for it as I would assume they / he would stop trying this stupid scam.Yep I have gotten a lot of those as well.

Stewie Griffin
04-24-21, 21:19
I see restaurants posting about having trouble finding staff due to the stimulus. My google voice is a barren field, I can barely get anyone to respond more than a text or two then disappear and not close a deal.My company just hired 30 people. 2 out of the 30 showed up for their first day. This has happening for over a year now.

PlayTiem
04-25-21, 12:59
My company just hired 30 people. 2 out of the 30 showed up for their first day. This has happening for over a year now.Weird. I have a buddy who has a construction business. He hasn't been having any problems getting people to show up (I mean, beyond the usual shenanigans) and is expanding out to add another crew. But he also doesn't pay $2. 14 an hour or whatever it is the restaurants are paying out these days.

I expect that a smaller percentage of the workin' girls than we might think have gotten stimulus checks, considering that getting them requires having filed federal tax returns and the like. And a lot of them aren't exactly the paperwork type. But, given that there's a larger liquid money supply right now, they're probably having a much easier time getting cash from clients.

Jax Jedi
04-25-21, 18:51
Why can't I be attracted to fat, ugly women. I'd have more than I could handle here in Jax. The picking are slim and the ones that look decent are real hard to get ahold of.

Thank goodness for the latinas rolling through occasionally. Just wish they would time it better so there was always one in town.

TomCat4871
05-25-21, 15:11
Maybe its worth holding my nut for 4 weeks for a few of the better girls to come back online from the taxpayer provided existence.

MikeEbanks
05-25-21, 15:37
Could be most of the folks remember the last year and decided to try a different industry? If it was me, I probably would not want to get caught by covid-2025 in a restaurant job. In regards to the stimulus check, most working girls likely got them. The last requirement was to file taxes and folks qualify even if they make 0 money, so yes.


Weird. I have a buddy who has a construction business. He hasn't been having any problems getting people to show up (I mean, beyond the usual shenanigans) and is expanding out to add another crew. But he also doesn't pay $2. 14 an hour or whatever it is the restaurants are paying out these days.

I expect that a smaller percentage of the workin' girls than we might think have gotten stimulus checks, considering that getting them requires having filed federal tax returns and the like. And a lot of them aren't exactly the paperwork type. But, given that there's a larger liquid money supply right now, they're probably having a much easier time getting cash from clients.

TomCat4871
05-25-21, 15:50
Anybody try uncovering new talent on Whatsyourprice or sexyjobs?

Stewie Griffin
05-26-21, 14:43
Anybody try uncovering new talent on Whatsyourprice or sexyjobs?Wyp was a waste of time for me. Most people who contacted me wanted you to just pay to take them out.

Scooter6
05-27-21, 07:37
Wyp was a waste of time for me. Most people who contacted me wanted you to just pay to take them out.But I have had a couple decent encounters from WYP. But it's been a while since I was on there on any regular basis and haven't seen much there the last couple of times I logged on to bother pursuing.

Maybe for sh*ts and grins I'll look sometime soon to see if anything piques my interest.

PlayTiem
05-27-21, 14:22
Wyp was a waste of time for me. Most people who contacted me wanted you to just pay to take them out.The girls I talked to hated WYP because there wasn't any way of specifying what the named price was for. Coffee? Bareback anal with 3 friends and a goat?

I kinda avoided it for exactly the same reason.

TimesLikeThese
05-29-21, 08:12
I recently contacted Effy to set up a meeting. Slow response. I have a lifelong friend who is also a provider. I sometimes ask her about a provider if I am a little suspicious. She knows or knows about most of the area providers. We are friends and I am not a customer of hers so I trust her opinion. She does not know her but knows of her. She said stay away far away. Not for the reason I usually get, Ripoff. She said the other providers have been been hearing about her from each other and customers. She has been thrown out of multiple hotels in the last few months from hotel guest complaints. Not very discreet. They said that she is very sloppy with the way she conducts business. She is paranoid probably due to drug use. Information about her such as videos pictures customer correspondence screenshots, etc are out there. She may have good reason to be paranoid. She pissed someone off. I won't say anymore about that. Enough second hand information. My texts with her started out pretty normal. I mentioned what my friend had said and that I had some reservations about our meeting. Then it gets weird. Really really weird. Very disturbing. I won't share the details here but at one point she accused me of stalking her and wasn't going to stand for it. She is clearly troubled. I hope her family or friends get her help. Very sad. Please stay away from this one.Sounds like she did piss someone off: you. While I've never met her, it does seem that the first post against her was also written by a newbie. Just saying it sounds fishy.

TimesLikeThese
05-29-21, 08:18
I see restaurants posting about having trouble finding staff due to the stimulus. My google voice is a barren field, I can barely get anyone to respond more than a text or two then disappear and not close a deal.And it's not just our hobby. Have you noticed more and more retired, older women as cashiers now, where it used to be girls in their twenties. Nothing against older women, just something I noticed. The young women aren't working, just collecting pay checks I'm guessing. It's sad how far this country has gone.

TopJimmie
05-29-21, 09:37
Sounds like she did piss someone off: you. While I've never met her, it does seem that the first post against her was also written by a newbie. Just saying it sounds fishy.Turn one page to see a negative post #21253 written by a senior member regarding Effy.

Low Baller
05-29-21, 12:10
Sounds like she did piss someone off: you. While I've never met her, it does seem that the first post against her was also written by a newbie. Just saying it sounds fishy.I concur, I get the fishy smell from reading that newbie "advice" post.

GatorDawg87
05-29-21, 20:00
I concur, I get the fishy smell from reading that newbie "advice" post.I never posted before. I never felt the need too. I don't need to advertise every time I pay a visit. This time was different. I received some information in my personal vetting process. I don't rely on reviews. I probably should have kept my opinions to myself. I certainly will in the future. I won't post what I saw or talk about it publicly. We all exploit these ladies misfortunes. This is where I drew the line. I don't understand why people who don't have person information of their own would question the veracity of another commenter. Maybe they are going to contact her for personal validation. I'm not the saveaho type. Skepticism is wise and healthy. I thought this venue was to help one another. I wish everyone the best of luck. Effy too. I will never post again.

Low Baller
05-29-21, 22:15
I never posted before. I never felt the need too. I don't need to advertise every time I pay a visit. This time was different. I received some information in my personal vetting process. I don't rely on reviews. I probably should have kept my opinions to myself. I certainly will in the future. I won't post what I saw or talk about it publicly. We all exploit these ladies misfortunes. This is where I drew the line. I don't understand why people who don't have person information of their own would question the veracity of another commenter. Maybe they are going to contact her for personal validation. I'm not the saveaho type. Skepticism is wise and healthy. I thought this venue was to help one another. I wish everyone the best of luck. Effy too. I will never post again.No need to get a chip on one's shoulder, there is enough anger in this world! But, when one asks "I don't understand why people who don't have person information of their own would question the veracity of another commenter" and refers to my post, then I will politely answer. The answer is that I have not seen that provider, and I said so, my post was not about the provider, which I made clear. Instead, I questioned the content of the post, it seems to my nose to smell fishy by the way it was worded. Regulars here know, there are many "selfie" reviews, etc, and much said that seems weird or fishy. I, like everyone here, has a right to comment about how a review sounds, and that is the simple answer. Understand that none of us should be afraid to agree or disagree with what someone says.

HeadRooster
06-03-21, 12:15
No need to get a chip on one's shoulder, there is enough anger in this world! But, when one asks "I don't understand why people who don't have person information of their own would question the veracity of another commenter" and refers to my post, then I will politely answer. The answer is that I have not seen that provider, and I said so, my post was not about the provider, which I made clear. Instead, I questioned the content of the post, it seems to my nose to smell fishy by the way it was worded. Regulars here know, there are many "selfie" reviews, etc, and much said that seems weird or fishy. I, like everyone here, has a right to comment about how a review sounds, and that is the simple answer. Understand that none of us should be afraid to agree or disagree with what someone says.She PM'd me after I posted / commented thanking another member for his post warning to stay away. She asked me if I'd like to see her conversation with the person, to which I simply responded saying " I'm good ". Guess she didn't like my response, LMAO.

But the good news is anyone that plans to visit a Hospital in the near future can rest assured she may be running it.

P.S. Since I can't figure out how to snip and paste on my MAC like I can easily on my work PC, screen shot of the messages attached:

HR.

Travellar
06-03-21, 12:29
She PM'd me after I posted / commented thanking another member for his post warning to stay away. She asked me if I'd like to see her conversation with the person, to which I simply responded saying " I'm good ". Guess she didn't like my response, LMAO.

But the good news is anyone that plans to visit a Hospital in the near future can rest assured she may be running it.

P.S. Since I can't figure out how to snip and paste on my MAC like I can easily on my work PC, screen shot of the messages attached:

HR.One by me, one by a newbie Gator something. I will stand by mine! I have never spoken to her, never seen her (as a provider) and have no desire to do either. I find her "explanation" of my review dubious and her claim of "working alone" most hilarious of all. Lets not forget she was, as of the time of my review, staying in a well known motel off jtb and us1, frequented by many mongers and DBs.

Jringo2020
06-12-21, 05:48
One by me, one by a newbie Gator something. I will stand by mine! I have never spoken to her, never seen her (as a provider) and have no desire to do either. I find her "explanation" of my review dubious and her claim of "working alone" most hilarious of all. Lets not forget she was, as of the time of my review, staying in a well known motel off jtb and us1, frequented by many mongers and DBs.I must be one of the few on here that had a good experience with her, I had no complaints and she was very accommodating and sweet with me. Now she can be sarcastic and snarky but I am too so I can see how it runs guys wrong.

BoxCar255
06-14-21, 02:05
I must be one of the few on here that had a good experience with her, I had no complaints and she was very accommodating and sweet with me. Now she can be sarcastic and snarky but I am too so I can see how it runs guys wrong.Does she save all texts from customers and potential customers? If she gets in trouble will she share this info to save her own ass? Something to think about.

Rino888
06-14-21, 09:52
She PM'd me after I posted / commented thanking another member for his post warning to stay away. She asked me if I'd like to see her conversation with the person, to which I simply responded saying " I'm good ". Guess she didn't like my response, LMAO.

But the good news is anyone that plans to visit a Hospital in the near future can rest assured she may be running it.

P.S. Since I can't figure out how to snip and paste on my MAC like I can easily on my work PC, screen shot of the messages attached:

HR.She was going to send you correspondence with a customer. That's a huge red flag. Why would she save that information. Who else does she give this info to? Effy is trouble and troubled.

Jringo2020
06-14-21, 10:08
Does she save all texts from customers and potential customers? If she gets in trouble will she share this info to save her own ass? Something to think about.If you think for one second that anyone of these girls in Jacksonville wouldn't burn you to save their own ass you are crazy, they all are running some kind of scam or con here, an honest hooker is a oxymoron. Just saying, might be a few but rare, most just looking to ge that next fix and will lie, cheat or steal to get it. It's the nature of the beast with this game.

I don't think she keeps texts but I don't know for certain.

Ttmft
06-14-21, 18:42
If you think for one second that anyone of these girls in Jacksonville wouldn't burn you to save their own ass you are crazy, they all are running some kind of scam or con here, an honest hooker is a oxymoron. Just saying, might be a few but rare, most just looking to ge that next fix and will lie, cheat or steal to get it. It's the nature of the beast with this game.

I don't think she keeps texts but I don't know for certain.Burners are your friend. Anyone can save my texts. There's no way to trace my burner to me. If it gets too hot, into the trash it goes. They are pretty affordable now.

BoxCar255
06-14-21, 19:08
If you think for one second that anyone of these girls in Jacksonville wouldn't burn you to save their own ass you are crazy, they all are running some kind of scam or con here, an honest hooker is a oxymoron. Just saying, might be a few but rare, most just looking to ge that next fix and will lie, cheat or steal to get it. It's the nature of the beast with this game.

I don't think she keeps texts but I don't know for certain.See post #3129 I think that is proof that Effy does keep them. I think the burner phone is a good idea for most but there is proof positive on this one. Looks like drugs are taking her down fast and it's a matter of time before she has to leverage her way out of trouble. Not worth the risk.

ClitEastwoodJx
06-14-21, 20:31
If you think for one second that anyone of these girls in Jacksonville wouldn't burn you to save their own ass you are crazy, they all are running some kind of scam or con here, an honest hooker is a oxymoron. Just saying, might be a few but rare, most just looking to ge that next fix and will lie, cheat or steal to get it. It's the nature of the beast with this game.

I don't think she keeps texts but I don't know for certain.I use a text app, so I have a different phone number every time I monger.

HeadRooster
06-15-21, 07:32
I use a text app, so I have a different phone number every time I monger.I've been using Google Voice for about 2 years now.

I learned the hard way years ago using my personal cell number. I should have known better, and it cost me dearly. You can read between the lines for what I'm saying.

I've recently seen a few providers ads stating no text apps or whatever. Yeah, F. You. Not worth it gentlemen, USE an app.

HR.

GhostDaddy
06-15-21, 09:07
If you think for one second that anyone of these girls in Jacksonville wouldn't burn you to save their own ass you are crazy, they all are running some kind of scam or con here, an honest hooker is a oxymoron. Just saying, might be a few but rare, most just looking to ge that next fix and will lie, cheat or steal to get it. It's the nature of the beast with this game.

I don't think she keeps texts but I don't know for certain.Like every one previous said, USE BURNER NUMBERS!! Scammer love it when you use your personal numbers because they can look up your name and residence very easily. Not to mention, providers will blow your phone up when they need their fix.

Vandelay Ent
06-15-21, 13:28
Like every one previous said, USE BURNER NUMBERS!! Scammer love it when you use your personal numbers because they can look up your name and residence very easily. Not to mention, providers will blow your phone up when they need their fix.Just do it.

Jringo2020
06-15-21, 15:05
See post #3129 I think that is proof that Effy does keep them. I think the burner phone is a good idea for most but there is proof positive on this one. Looks like drugs are taking her down fast and it's a matter of time before she has to leverage her way out of trouble. Not worth the risk.Duval county has so many problems and judges soft on drugs I don't think just numbers is worth much leverage at all, unless you slinging a lot of candy. How many times we see these girls get busted and they out in 2 days or so. Duval county court system is a joke LOL.

But def good idea to use a burner, at minimum for the first time or two.

AMnnos
06-24-21, 10:49
I was saying Hartley is still preggo and at home with me. Sorry why'all had to take her out the business. Be careful her friend who still does stg took her photos and is posting as her to setup guys. You don't have to believe me. But she is retired for good. She does call the admin every time she see post up with her pics to have taken down.How about you quit cock blocking? Are you jealous, hating or both?

I'd like a little preggo fun thank you.

Ryu69
06-24-21, 11:08
How about you quit cock blocking? Are you jealous, hating or both?

I'd like a little preggo fun thank you.LOL well if that's how you see it so be it, but yea she definitely out due to wanting a better life, and not catching anything or dying from candy like every other girl does, shit I mean isn't it a good thing when a female decides to better her life.

AMnnos
06-24-21, 11:58
LOL well if that's how you see it so be it, but yea she definitely out due to wanting a better life, and not catching anything or dying from candy like every other girl does, shit I mean isn't it a good thing when a female decides to better her life.I'm all for a female bettering her life.

Be a bro and let her know that I'll be by around eight to pick her up.

Ryu69
06-24-21, 12:22
I'm all for a female bettering her life.

Be a bro and let her know that I'll be by around eight to pick her up.OK well then tell your gf or wife I be there at 7:50 pm.

Quebec
06-24-21, 22:25
How about you quit cock blocking? Are you jealous, hating or both?

I'd like a little preggo fun thank you."Our girlfriend bro". Funny as shit!

AMnnos
06-25-21, 12:21
OK well then tell your gf or wife I be there at 7:50 pm.My EX blew up to 250 lbs, living with some dude out west. Want her address?

Powerhouse100
07-13-21, 22:04
Fellas, help me out! So, as many of you know, I gave you information on this UTR. She text me out of the blue sometimes with these emergencies saying she has no money or place to stay. Now, I know I gave at least 30-40 guys her information, so why is she still in dire straights?!

Can you please tell me if you have attempted to reach out to her and did she ghost you or basically, did not follow through. If a certain number of you tell me that she blew you off, then I will know she is a victim of her own doing / circumstances. Let me know, please. Thanks.

TunPunFun
07-14-21, 09:55
Fellas, help me out! So, as many of you know, I gave you information on this UTR. She text me out of the blue sometimes with these emergencies saying she has no money or place to stay. Now, I know I gave at least 30-40 guys her information, so why is she still in dire straights?!

Can you please tell me if you have attempted to reach out to her and did she ghost you or basically, did not follow through. If a certain number of you tell me that she blew you off, then I will know she is a victim of her own doing / circumstances. Let me know, please. Thanks.She hit me up randomly and said she was stuck in Arlington. Needed money for a room or a ride. I offered both, then she ghosted. Haven't heard back. She seems flaky.

I can't remember the name she went by when she would post. I always called her crazy eyes. What did she go by then?

FlaWill
07-14-21, 11:47
Fellas, help me out! So, as many of you know, I gave you information on this UTR. She text me out of the blue sometimes with these emergencies saying she has no money or place to stay. Now, I know I gave at least 30-40 guys her information, so why is she still in dire straights?!

Can you please tell me if you have attempted to reach out to her and did she ghost you or basically, did not follow through. If a certain number of you tell me that she blew you off, then I will know she is a victim of her own doing / circumstances. Let me know, please. Thanks.Funny thing about tossing out a number without any sort of details, like her first name. I once tried that and it turned out it was an EX and the guy was looking to cause some issue with her. That's why I reached out to you in a pm asking for just a bit more info. I got nothing so I passed. I'm always looking to find another UTR and I get that you're busy, but no info = no contact. Been down this road before.

Stewie Griffin
07-14-21, 11:48
Fellas, help me out! So, as many of you know, I gave you information on this UTR. She text me out of the blue sometimes with these emergencies saying she has no money or place to stay. Now, I know I gave at least 30-40 guys her information, so why is she still in dire straights?!

Can you please tell me if you have attempted to reach out to her and did she ghost you or basically, did not follow through. If a certain number of you tell me that she blew you off, then I will know she is a victim of her own doing / circumstances. Let me know, please. Thanks.I know I hit her up and she responded right away. Texted her back asking where she was located and her rates and two days later she responded at like 2 am and then never responded again.

FirstTimeH
07-14-21, 12:23
Fellas, help me out! So, as many of you know, I gave you information on this UTR. She text me out of the blue sometimes with these emergencies saying she has no money or place to stay. Now, I know I gave at least 30-40 guys her information, so why is she still in dire straights?!

Can you please tell me if you have attempted to reach out to her and did she ghost you or basically, did not follow through. If a certain number of you tell me that she blew you off, then I will know she is a victim of her own doing / circumstances. Let me know, please. Thanks.I hit here up and comms were spotty then she didn't have a place for the deed and said she was by Dennys in op. Haven't heard from her since.

Quebec
07-14-21, 12:58
Fellas, help me out! So, as many of you know, I gave you information on this UTR. She text me out of the blue sometimes with these emergencies saying she has no money or place to stay. Now, I know I gave at least 30-40 guys her information, so why is she still in dire straights?!

Can you please tell me if you have attempted to reach out to her and did she ghost you or basically, did not follow through. If a certain number of you tell me that she blew you off, then I will know she is a victim of her own doing / circumstances. Let me know, please. Thanks.Texts were spotty at best and when she did communicate she was "desperate" and needed an advance. Same bs I could get on my own using SKIP. Not blaming you, I'm blaming her.

Powerhouse100
07-14-21, 13:02
Funny thing about tossing out a number without any sort of details, like her first name. I once tried that and it turned out it was an EX and the guy was looking to cause some issue with her. That's why I reached out to you in a pm asking for just a bit more info. I got nothing so I passed. I'm always looking to find another UTR and I get that you're busy, but no info = no contact. Been down this road before.I was actually leaving it up to her to text you a pic of herself, such as holding a toothbrush or 2 fingers or something. This way, you'd know if she was someone you knew or if she was according to your liking. I guess asking her to do a little work was asking too much!

DWaltonXXX
07-15-21, 12:17
Fellas, help me out! So, as many of you know, I gave you information on this UTR. She text me out of the blue sometimes with these emergencies saying she has no money or place to stay. Now, I know I gave at least 30-40 guys her information, so why is she still in dire straights?!

Can you please tell me if you have attempted to reach out to her and did she ghost you or basically, did not follow through. If a certain number of you tell me that she blew you off, then I will know she is a victim of her own doing / circumstances. Let me know, please. Thanks.Arlington is not a great location for me. With employees and a wife, I need to be able to justify absences from where I'm supposed to be. Somebody on Collins is on my way to work. Somebody at the airport I can sometimes justify because I have a vendor out that way. Even Southside / JTB or University I have rare errands. I never visit Arlington for any reason. If I did, I'd throw her a bone (pun totally intended).

AMnnos
07-26-21, 06:29
Sorry guys wasnt me I won't even drive on p. H. Nice try at slander but anyone who knows me knows that's not a possibility.Noone gives a shit. Get back in the kitchen. Make sammiches.

FlaWill
07-30-21, 14:56
When I find a scam Ad on the usual websites, I feel like it's a Public Service to fuck with them. I always recommend a burner phone but each person has their preference for protecting their identity. Recommend using a photo search site similar to TinEye and search a few of the Ad's photos. When you get a bunch of returns, you know it's likely a scammer Ad. I get to reply them asking easy questions like "What part of town are you in?" and letting them know I'm looking for a regular thing. Some post their rates and list in / outcall as an option.

I texted these two today asking the usual questions and giving away no information. The first one "Fun Sexy Freak" replied 30 minutes later with "1 hour $200". Then they ask for a "50% booking advance". I tell them no way and crickets as they move on to some other sucker.

The second "Sweet Tight" girl replied asking how long I want a couple hours later. They then quoted their rate, which is already in their Ad. Now the fun starts as I text back and forth with questions. I get the "Advance Booking Fee" to "confirm" but we haven't set a date, time, or location. I get the usual "it's for my safety" and "because I've been badly scammed". I kept this one going for a while before telling them to take a hike.

Be safe out there, never send money EVER for a first date, do your homework and take part in the Public Service campaign!

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/fun-sexy-freak/179688857188 "Fun Sexy Freak".

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/sweettight-juicy-pretty-kitty/257262100408 "Sweet Tight".

FlaWill
07-31-21, 17:11
I hit the button for a "local" girl, with a 904 area code, hoping for something sane. She's "Cherry Bomb", a local redhead (love redheads). She didn't wave the advance booking card just quoted a ridiculous rate fee. Something like $250 QV, $300 HH, and $350 H for incall off Atlantic & Kernan. Her outcall (my preference) was even more insane. $400 Hour and $600 for 2 Hours. She added that she has a hard time making money here and was thinking about moving (probably a great idea). I wished her well and she got snotty. I say fly away little red bird.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/redhead-hotter-than-the-904-c/506930234812. "Cherry Bomb".

I decided to reach out to another with an out of the area number. Quoted a reasonable $160 for an hour outcall but then the "You have to give me something in advance for booking". I play the game and get their cash app info and tell them it's too much. They counter with a lower amount, then lower again, I just couldn't get them down to break my record of $10. We had a nice hour or two playing the game. I think they're still waiting for my $15 Advance Booking fee.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/wanna-play-hotel-or-bed-roomen/401156035890 "Enjoy your own style. Hungry Girl".

BudWhite
07-31-21, 17:29
The first one is great service wise if you can handle the rates. They also go up and down like the crypto market so buy on the dip if you can.


I hit the button for a "local" girl, with a 904 area code, hoping for something sane. She's "Cherry Bomb", a local redhead (love redheads). She didn't wave the advance booking card just quoted a ridiculous rate fee. Something like $250 QV, $300 HH, and $350 H for incall off Atlantic & Kernan. Her outcall (my preference) was even more insane. $400 Hour and $600 for 2 Hours. She added that she has a hard time making money here and was thinking about moving (probably a great idea). I wished her well and she got snotty. I say fly away little red bird.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/redhead-hotter-than-the-904-c/506930234812. "Cherry Bomb".

I decided to reach out to another with an out of the area number. Quoted a reasonable $160 for an hour outcall but then the "You have to give me something in advance for booking". I play the game and get their cash app info and tell them it's too much. They counter with a lower amount, then lower again, I just couldn't get them down to break my record of $10. We had a nice hour or two playing the game. I think they're still waiting for my $15 Advance Booking fee.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/wanna-play-hotel-or-bed-roomen/401156035890 "Enjoy your own style. Hungry Girl".

FirstTimeH
07-31-21, 17:36
I hit the button for a "local" girl, with a 904 area code, hoping for something sane. She's "Cherry Bomb", a local redhead (love redheads). She didn't wave the advance booking card just quoted a ridiculous rate fee. Something like $250 QV, $300 HH, and $350 H for incall off Atlantic & Kernan. Her outcall (my preference) was even more insane. $400 Hour and $600 for 2 Hours. She added that she has a hard time making money here and was thinking about moving (probably a great idea). I wished her well and she got snotty. I say fly away little red bird.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/redhead-hotter-than-the-904-c/506930234812. "Cherry Bomb".

I decided to reach out to another with an out of the area number. Quoted a reasonable $160 for an hour outcall but then the "You have to give me something in advance for booking". I play the game and get their cash app info and tell them it's too much. They counter with a lower amount, then lower again, I just couldn't get them down to break my record of $10. We had a nice hour or two playing the game. I think they're still waiting for my $15 Advance Booking fee.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/wanna-play-hotel-or-bed-roomen/401156035890 "Enjoy your own style. Hungry Girl".I would love to see the first girl in your post, but 250 qv is insane. I've reached out to her and her donation is always the same, she a hot little thing but for 250 ill pass.

FlaWill
07-31-21, 18:33
I would love to see the first girl in your post, but 250 qv is insane. I've reached out to her and her donation is always the same, she a hot little thing but for 250 ill pass.I would as well and was hoping with a local area code she was legit. Instead, she's nuts asking for $250 QV (Incall) and $300 qv (Outcall). Rate schedule just goes off the chart after that. Yeah, she's a cute redhead and I have a weakness for them but, I'm not stupid to pay these prices. I'll just set something up with my regular and schedule a title something extra with my UTR girl. Be warned, if she doesn't get her way she gets real ugly and I was being a gentleman.

On the bright side, the other scam is down to $10 advance booking. Just maybe I can get them to $5! Occasionally, I just love toying with these scams.

Scooter6
08-01-21, 15:15
I hit the button for a "local" girl, with a 904 area code, hoping for something sane. She's "Cherry Bomb", a local redhead (love redheads). She didn't wave the advance booking card just quoted a ridiculous rate fee. Something like $250 QV, $300 HH, and $350 H for incall off Atlantic & Kernan. Her outcall (my preference) was even more insane. $400 Hour and $600 for 2 Hours. She added that she has a hard time making money here and was thinking about moving (probably a great idea). I wished her well and she got snotty. I say fly away little red bird.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/redhead-hotter-than-the-904-c/506930234812. "Cherry Bomb".

I decided to reach out to another with an out of the area number. Quoted a reasonable $160 for an hour outcall but then the "You have to give me something in advance for booking". I play the game and get their cash app info and tell them it's too much. They counter with a lower amount, then lower again, I just couldn't get them down to break my record of $10. We had a nice hour or two playing the game. I think they're still waiting for my $15 Advance Booking fee.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/wanna-play-hotel-or-bed-roomen/401156035890 "Enjoy your own style. Hungry Girl".What a shame. Atl & Kernan is my neck of the woods. Dang it for the GPS.

I can understand why she's not making anything with those rates. GTFOH.

MKinsella08
08-01-21, 15:48
What a shame. Atl & Kernan is my neck of the woods. Dang it for the GPS.

I can understand why she's not making anything with those rates. GTFOH.Was just throwing my 2 cents in too, I would love to see her, but with the rates quoted and possible limitations in services I look for on my dates I can't afford to throw away good money for what I want and not get it.

I do have a thing for redheads too and she likes wearing my favorite type of lingerie, black sheer stockings.

GhostDaddy
08-02-21, 07:31
I hit the button for a "local" girl, with a 904 area code, hoping for something sane. She's "Cherry Bomb", a local redhead (love redheads). She didn't wave the advance booking card just quoted a ridiculous rate fee. Something like $250 QV, $300 HH, and $350 H for incall off Atlantic & Kernan. Her outcall (my preference) was even more insane. $400 Hour and $600 for 2 Hours. She added that she has a hard time making money here and was thinking about moving (probably a great idea). I wished her well and she got snotty. I say fly away little red bird.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/redhead-hotter-than-the-904-c/506930234812. "Cherry Bomb".

I decided to reach out to another with an out of the area number. Quoted a reasonable $160 for an hour outcall but then the "You have to give me something in advance for booking". I play the game and get their cash app info and tell them it's too much. They counter with a lower amount, then lower again, I just couldn't get them down to break my record of $10. We had a nice hour or two playing the game. I think they're still waiting for my $15 Advance Booking fee.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/latin/wanna-play-hotel-or-bed-roomen/401156035890 "Enjoy your own style. Hungry Girl".If any ads says "your own style" or "sexy girl", it's a overseas scammer wanting a deposit.

FlaWill
09-20-21, 12:35
Here's another announcement in the interest of Monger Safety. Recently started posting to the Jacksonville STG as "New", and then fill in all the other excuses for needing money for this "Mom". I searched the STG photos on Tineye without any hits and then there's the local 904 number. Gave it a try on Saturday. No reply. Tried today with the new number and got a reply. Wouldn't say what part of town, then there's the advance booking fee. Geez, for a "new" girl and a "Mom needing money", she sure learned the tricks fast! Searched the new photo and, sure enough, got a hit from 2 years ago. Wants $20 booking fee and won't share any info about where but does post low hourly rates.

The two numbers are: (904) xxx-3185 and (904) xxx-7585.

Don't EVER provide a booking fee, deposit to hold your appointment, or any cash advance. You'll get more satisfaction giving $10 to someone on the corner than online, and I don't even do that.

I also let them know I'd posted their scam. Let's see how fast it disappears!

Red Talon
09-26-21, 07:26
I know better than to let a hooker in my home the point of the response was back at what one dude said. I was just a bit confused to see such a review. I've seen the girls about 5 times now and they seem to have normal jobs as well and always have a decent amount of cash when I do see them. I was a bit thrown off to hear they might be thieves. Seems they both come from good homes / backgrounds. Seems maybe they do it as a hobby or something being they are lesbians.Holy f'ing shit, either you are completely delusional or a girl hiding under an account trying to portray these girls as "decent". Wait, I'm just going to call you out as a liar. There are no girls that you have seen multiple times that have "normal jobs" and a "decent amount of cash". Right, they want to get banged by a guy that reeks of B. O. and piss just for grins.

There are so many thing wrong with what you said it’s just comical but being lesbians is the cherry on top of the sundae. Go peddle your shit elsewhere.

MyTinyDick
09-26-21, 09:37
Holy f'ing shit, either you are completely delusional or a girl hiding under an account trying to portray these girls as "decent". Wait, I'm just going to call you out as a liar. There are no girls that you have seen multiple times that have "normal jobs" and a "decent amount of cash". Right, they want to get banged by a guy that reeks of B. O. and piss just for grins.

There are so many thing wrong with what you said its just comical but being lesbians is the cherry on top of the sundae. Go peddle your shit elsewhere.Dude. He's working on a cure for sickle cell prostate cancer.

YbScottyB
09-27-21, 08:01
If any ads says "your own style" or "sexy girl", it's a overseas scammer wanting a deposit.I always ask what city your in some get salty and say what city do you think, most ignore and ask me what city I am in. Since the scams have so many ads out there they have no clue what city there in or I give them a Middelburg or Macclenny zip and they are like yeah that's our city. LOL.

Motoyo
09-27-21, 09:41
Holy f'ing shit, either you are completely delusional or a girl hiding under an account trying to portray these girls as "decent". Wait, I'm just going to call you out as a liar. There are no girls that you have seen multiple times that have "normal jobs" and a "decent amount of cash". Right, they want to get banged by a guy that reeks of B. O. and piss just for grins.

There are so many thing wrong with what you said its just comical but being lesbians is the cherry on top of the sundae. Go peddle your shit elsewhere.Whaaaa?

You saying there isn't two well off, clean, full time working, dick curious hot lesbians girls that are advertising on STG (of all places) to experiment with dick? LOL.

All the posts he / she (the one you are replying to) has are only one step away from the old "Dear penthouse, I never thought it would happen to me" type fantasy shit: Two hot, clean, upscale lesbians invited me over to bang them. Was the night of my life. They even let me live out a fantasy fetish I had with them and they was alllll kinds of into it. (A non-sexual fetish they claim..whatever that means. I guess paying a hooker/escort for NOT sex?).

But I do have to give it to the girls (or whoever is writing for them) trying to be clever and frame rules as 'kinda negatives' in the fake review to try to make it seem more real, to imply what the rules are that wont budge on: no bareback, no BBBJ, no CIM, only one is willing to give head..etc.

Wpgsh34
09-27-21, 15:19
I always ask what city your in some get salty and say what city do you think, most ignore and ask me what city I am in. Since the scams have so many ads out there they have no clue what city there in or I give them a Middelburg or Macclenny zip and they are like yeah that's our city. LOL.I texted one on rubratings, add was clearly fake, picture of girl was hot and I remember getting the ole unbelievably low pricing from her and request to pay by Apple Card. So when I saw the pic of the same chick I texted and when asked where I was to told them Chicago near wrigley field, the response was I'll be there in 30 minutes, after wasting their time for about half hour told them they were a scam and blew them off. They were pissed. But I sure had fun.

Savis6969
10-05-21, 21:40
You guys expect the girls to keep there shit updated well for safety reasons she requires a recent picture of yourself. I know you got some bad girls out there ran to the ground and robbing guys. But hey you guys do the same thing. She does not even require a deposit. Just that you lay it out. Then you talk shit about the good ones when you never even met them. She understands decision. But hell if you think about it you go to these rooms where providers work. They have multiple guys coming and going. Just think that shit is all on camera. Then suspicions start to rise. Then the le gets involved. Runs the camera back. Then your well you know. That is why she is outcall only. She not only looking out for her safety but your as well. She like to be on the low for you guys. And as far as her number goes she is here visiting. So some girls do have real numbers. She is not twacked out nor has the monkey on her back. She truly does enjoy what she does. Thanks enjoy your night and stay safe.

KawsakiGuy
10-06-21, 19:37
You guys expect the girls to keep there shit updated well for safety reasons she requires a recent picture of yourself. I know you got some bad girls out there ran to the ground and robbing guys. But hey you guys do the same thing. She does not even require a deposit. Just that you lay it out. Then you talk shit about the good ones when you never even met them. She understands decision. But hell if you think about it you go to these rooms where providers work. They have multiple guys coming and going. Just think that shit is all on camera. Then suspicions start to rise. Then the le gets involved. Runs the camera back. Then your well you know. That is why she is outcall only. She not only looking out for her safety but your as well. She like to be on the low for you guys. And as far as her number goes she is here visiting. So some girls do have real numbers. She is not twacked out nor has the monkey on her back. She truly does enjoy what she does. Thanks enjoy your night and stay safe.If you look on their posts they posted about the same girl but in Richmond.

Savis6969
10-07-21, 02:01
If you look on their posts they posted about the same girl but in Richmond.Yeah so I did post about myself in Richmond. Maybe if why'all actually looked me up read my reviews and even read my post maybe even watch some of my movies granted I haven't uploaded none in a few really had time I've been traveling sorry but you would also notice that I've been clear across the United States as well so go to the search bar search for my name don't forget to add the one and make sure you spell it correctly two l not one I have finally left Jacksonville but again please don't forget to search and read my reviews there are some guys on here that I've seen have many many many post So technically yes I can post hey check me out that way you guys can actually see my reviews Google me I'm all over Google.

ArchyRozay
10-23-21, 13:16
Hey boys,

Seems like there's a lot of skepticism surrounding my story concerning Desi and Lotto. You don't have to believe the story if you don't want to. Fine by me. Continue seeing her at your own risk. PM me if you really want the details. But let's not derail the entire board talking about one topic. Let's get back to posting dreams, good or bad. Speaking of, I'll be doing an excellent write up on JoJo who I got to see 2 days ago and last night. Only saw her bc of recommendations from the board and it did not disappoint! Stay safe out there and happy mongering.

Low Baller
10-23-21, 14:47
Thanks for the informative write up on how these tricks do anything to steal your hard-earned coins. Let this be a warning to anyone on the forum that it is imperative to do your due diligence and use the search feature to see if there is any intel on a provider before seeing her. I haven't seen her personally bc there have been many negative reports on her including a guy getting robbed at gunpoint. Speaking of.

I got sucker punched and jumped a few weeks ago by Desi's boyfriend who recently got of jail and some others. They beat me and took my gun and pulled the trigger right at my head. Luckily, I had a loaded magazine in my pocket and an unloaded one in the gun or else this monger would be dead rn. I cannot stress enough how important this forum is simply for the safety of mongers out there and just how lucky you are that you weren't robbed at gunpoint considering the history of Sweetness. Here's a link to Desi's ad in which she's even posting Lottos face in it like WTF. It's more likely he actually posted it though since they're advertising pics and vids. Whatever. I can confirm she's a straight up junkie and has sores and bruises all over due to her habit. My experience with her was so bad a few months ago that a review on her was my very first contribution to the board which can be found at post #22397. I was only around her again bc I was seeing Ronnie who was staying with her for a bit. Stay safe out there people. The scene has really changed..Mongers,

At first, I reacted in shock and horror when I read this. I mean it scared the crap out of me and concerned me.

Archy seemed believable in his post, so I did react. I stopped seeing providers. Yep for my well being I decided to skip contacting providers for a while because of that story!

But after reading some recent comments and my actual thinking the facts, I must say. I think I was fooled! I Do Not Believe The Story!

Why?

As Clit and Ken said in later posts, why did Archy wait a couple of weeks to post his story? Why not post it immediately?

Thank you Clit and Ken! Thanks you so much for helping me to stop and think. Great mongers we can all trust!

Also comments were made by others, that was weeks ago, so why no reports on the news of mongers getting robbed?

Then I thought about it, and why would a DB point a gun at a monger's head after taking from a monger and then pulling the trigger? Most people would assume it was loaded, and usually it would be loaded! So if the DB or handler was that nuts, why didn't he use his own gun to shoot Archy or a knife? Why pull the trigger on a gun you think is loaded unless you want to kill? And if you want to kill and the gun is empty, why then stop with one sucker punch?

Hmmm, it sure does not pass the smell test, now that I think about it.

Bad news is the story had me stop mongering out of fear, it was scary as crap. Double bad news is that I now do not believe the story, it was all make believe!

I do not believe that story? Do You Believe It?

Good news, mow that I know the truth, I am back to mongering.

I usually say avoid a provider when a negative post, now I suggest we avoid believing any of his posts. Fool me once, shame on you, but fool me twice shame on me.

Red Talon
10-23-21, 20:39
Mongers,

At first, I reacted in shock and horror when I read this. I mean it scared the crap out of me and concerned me.

Archy seemed believable in his post, so I did react. I stopped seeing providers. Yep for my well being I decided to skip contacting providers for a while because of that story!

But after reading some recent comments and my actual thinking the facts, I must say. I think I was fooled! I Do Not Believe The Story!

Why?

As Clit and Ken said in later posts, why did Archy wait a couple of weeks to post his story? Why not post it immediately?

Thank you Clit and Ken! Thanks you so much for helping me to stop and think. Great mongers we can all trust!

Also comments were made by others, that was weeks ago, so why no reports on the news of mongers getting robbed?

Then I thought about it, and why would a DB point a gun at a monger's head after taking from a monger and then pulling the trigger? Most people would assume it was loaded, and usually it would be loaded! So if the DB or handler was that nuts, why didn't he use his own gun to shoot Archy or a knife? Why pull the trigger on a gun you think is loaded unless you want to kill? And if you want to kill and the gun is empty, why then stop with one sucker punch?

Hmmm, it sure does not pass the smell test, now that I think about it.

Bad news is the story had me stop mongering out of fear, it was scary as crap. Double bad news is that I now do not believe the story, it was all make believe!

I do not believe that story? Do You Believe It?

Good news, mow that I know the truth, I am back to mongering.

I usually say avoid a provider when a negative post, now I suggest we avoid believing any of his posts. Fool me once, shame on you, but fool me twice shame on me.I thought the same thing, complete b. S. But, too busy with a project here to call it out. Thanks brother!

DahGirlsOfJax
10-24-21, 02:07
I cannot vouch for the validity of ArchyRozay's storied encounter but I do know that our hobby comes with risks that can be life changing or life ending. I have meet numerous individuals during my 25 years in the hobby and sad to say some are no longer on this side of the ground. I personally know two hobbyist that were set up during encounters.

One, about 15 years ago, was set up during an in call visit to a private residence. He was overcome by the occupants in the house and taken to a ATM for withdrawals. Once the ATM daily limit was taken, the hobbyist was stabbed to unconsciousness, thrown in his vehicle's trunk and the vehicle was doused with gasoline and torched in the middle of a field.

This past year a hobbyist set up an out call to his residence. The provider arrived with friends that somehow gained entrance to the residence. Again this hobbyist was taken to numerous ATM's but he refused to divulge the pin number. He too was stabbed to unconsciousness and he was thrown from his moving vehicle, luckily in Georgia which made this a federal crime.

Yes both hobbyist survived though scarred. All of the perpetrators have been caught and all but one perpetrator was sentenced to multiple decades in prison, one perpetrator is still awaiting trial.

In my hobbying I have had to involve the police a half dozen times. They are not pleased at my form of recreation but in the end they have always protected the public from worse offenders.

Keep your head on a swivel, stay safe and report these type of encounters to this forum and the police.

Low Baller
10-24-21, 05:42
Hey boys,

Seems like there's a lot of skepticism surrounding my story concerning Desi and Lotto. You don't have to believe the story if you don't want to. Fine by me. Continue seeing her at your own risk. PM me if you really want the details. But let's not derail the entire board talking about one topic. Let's get back to posting dreams, good or bad. Speaking of, I'll be doing an excellent write up on JoJo who I got to see 2 days ago and last night. Only saw her bc of recommendations from the board and it did not disappoint! Stay safe out there and happy mongering.Mongers,

Others are questioning the bs Archy posted, and he fluffs it away as if robbery and pulling a trigger of a gun is not important. Weird!

Weird he has a dream with JoJo but did not write it yet! Weird it was not written just now! How long does it take to write a review of a dream? Don't you mongers find all of this weird?

We should all wait in anticipation and excitement?

Just Weird!

Did he see anyone or is it more bs coming?

Weird!

Mongers, don't you find all of this weird?

PokeTiger
10-24-21, 09:52
Especially if DBs or boyfriends are involved. Because of drugs, they do not act like normal people. It really depends on your luck. If you got involved in one of their stupid act, nothing could help.

Always visit providers with decent review.


Mongers,

Others are questioning the bs Archy posted, and he fluffs it away as if robbery and pulling a trigger of a gun is not important. Weird!

Weird he has a dream with JoJo but did not write it yet! Weird it was not written just now! How long does it take to write a review of a dream? Don't you mongers find all of this weird?

We should all wait in anticipation and excitement?

Just Weird!

Did he see anyone or is it more bs coming?

Weird!

Mongers, don't you find all of this weird?

PervNerd48
10-25-21, 10:59
This whole conversation about whether the stories on the site are true remind me of Chris Rock's bit about couples. You know the bit.

If you're both in church on Sunday, it's good.

If you're both smoking crack on Sunday, it's good.

Now, if one of you is in church and the other is smoking crack. Not good.

I think this is true of trying to find a provider in Jacksonville. If the hardest drug you've ever done is weed, and your provider is stoned, you're probably fine.

If you've used meth or crack, and your provider is on meth or crack, you'll probably find a way to make it work.

The problem is that most of us haven't used meth or crack, and just about every provider on STG is hitting those pipes.

The last time I saw a provider, she wanted to smoke up in the room. I was not cool and bailed. I'm a teetotaler; I've never smoked weed or cigs.

I don't need the situation to escalate to muggings and stabbings to know that the scene is dangerous right now. And I don't need that much drama in my life. So I'm being VERY cautious right now.

Everyone here has to determine how much risk they're willing to take to hobby.

ArchyRozay
10-25-21, 15:59
Mongers,

Others are questioning the bs Archy posted, and he fluffs it away as if robbery and pulling a trigger of a gun is not important. Weird!

Weird he has a dream with JoJo but did not write it yet! Weird it was not written just now! How long does it take to write a review of a dream? Don't you mongers find all of this weird?

We should all wait in anticipation and excitement?

Just Weird!

Did he see anyone or is it more bs coming?

Weird!

Mongers, don't you find all of this weird?First of all, I just realized posted my response in the wrong thread.

And just because you have a senior member mark next to your name doesn't give your stories any more credibility than any of mine. Go look at my past contributions to the board and you will see fairly detailed, accurate accounts of different dreams that I have had with providers. I like to provide long write-ups on providers and haven't been bothered to write them up yet. Last time I checked, there wasn't a rule that says you have to immediately write a review once you've seen a provider. Like WTF. Unfortunately, my situation with Desi and her boyfriend was NOT a dream. All these people on the board trying to poke holes in the story is just sad bc you know so frighteningly little about the situation and here you are jumping to conclusions without even trying to PM me for more details or anything. It shows how people are trying to justify to themselves reasons as to why they should continue seeing said provider. FWIW, I didn't tell anyone to take her page down or that SHE would rob you. I wasn't even there to see her. Continue at your own risk but rest assured, everything that I have posted here is 100% accurate information and I'm hoping it doesn't happen to anybody else.

Powerhouse100
10-25-21, 23:04
I have often seen where a girl is a problem or there was something about her that, if reported early, would have saved others a lot of grief and inconvenience. I've seen where guys are talking about a girl, let's say, the week of October 25th, and how bad she was. Then, another joker comes along and says I saw her last month and she was awful. At this point, I want to say, "why report it now!" I know there is not a policy on when to report, but fellas, if there is something about a girl that we need to know so we can avoid her, I hope all of us make an effort to report ASAP. I mean, I know, of late, I have been guilty of this, so I will try to do better as well. Now if a girl and DB are robbing people, I would hope we'd report this stat! It could be a matter of life or death, TBH. Not busting anyone's chops, but again, hopefully, we will report more timely. Timeliness is what makes this board's information invaluable! That is all and carry on!

Scooter6
10-26-21, 09:37
I have often seen where a girl is a problem or there was something about her that, if reported early, would have saved others a lot of grief and inconvenience. I've seen where guys are talking about a girl, let's say, the week of October 25th, and how bad she was. Then, another joker comes along and says I saw her last month and she was awful. At this point, I want to say, "why report it now!" I know there is not a policy on when to report, but fellas, if there is something about a girl that we need to know so we can avoid her, I hope all of us make an effort to report ASAP. I mean, I know, of late, I have been guilty of this, so I will try to do better as well. Now if a girl and DB are robbing people, I would hope we'd report this stat! It could be a matter of life or death, TBH. Not busting anyone's chops, but again, hopefully, we will report more timely. Timeliness is what makes this board's information invaluable! That is all and carry on!This!! Well said and totally agree.

Red Talon
10-26-21, 14:20
If you feel the need to carry a gun to a "date", it should be time to reassess your life choices. One of the main points you learn early on as a gun owner and is especially driven in during your CCW training is that when you draw your weapon be prepared to take a life.

I see a lot of shit talking about weapons on here and all it is proving is we have some really stupid motherfuckers. You don't strap a weapon on and then put yourself in a risky situation thinking that gunning down another human is going to save your ass from the court room. How fucking stupid are you? Someone breaks into my home and I cut them in half with my shotgun, no regrets. Going to meet a hooker for illegal activities and having to explain why I was strapped and drew a weapon? That’s not going to get “explained away”.

Think before you talk shit.

NeckAuthority
10-26-21, 20:53
If you feel the need to carry a gun to a "date", it should be time to reassess your life choices. One of the main points you learn early on as a gun owner and is especially driven in during your CCW training is that when you draw your weapon be prepared to take a life.

I see a lot of shit talking about weapons on here and all it is proving is we have some really stupid motherfuckers. You don't strap a weapon on and then put yourself in a risky situation thinking that gunning down another human is going to save your ass from the court room. How fucking stupid are you? Someone breaks into my home and I cut them in half with my shotgun, no regrets. Going to meet a hooker for illegal activities and having to explain why I was strapped and drew a weapon? Thats not going to get explained away.

Think before you talk shit.Just going to say the obvious.

Wear it everywhere else. Only exception (besides the obvious places) I make is to bar or anywhere where there's alcohol, because I'm drinking LOL. This hobby will never be an exception to that. I can tell countless stories but that's only anecdotal. Responsible gun owner is a responsible gun owner regardless. Not like your walking into a situation thinking "I may need this". If like me then I tote it regardless like Chaptick. Like my chapstick I don't let it be known or seen. You are right, guns only have one purpose, and if your giddy, you might as well have a plastic spoon. Again I'll just digress and say to each their own, but curious you sound a little butthurt about the topic.

Red Talon
10-27-21, 08:32
Just going to say the obvious.

Wear it everywhere else. Only exception (besides the obvious places) I make is to bar or anywhere where there's alcohol, because I'm drinking LOL. This hobby will never be an exception to that. I can tell countless stories but that's only anecdotal. Responsible gun owner is a responsible gun owner regardless. Not like your walking into a situation thinking "I may need this". If like me then I tote it regardless like Chaptick. Like my chapstick I don't let it be known or seen. You are right, guns only have one purpose, and if your giddy, you might as well have a plastic spoon. Again I'll just digress and say to each their own, but curious you sound a little butthurt about the topic.Not "butthurt" as you put it but fucking retards make responsible weapons owners like myself look bad. The gun grabbing lunatics fight every day to take away our rights to own guns and then jackasses come along talking about guns like they are toys. I got my first gun when I was 9 and let's just say the collection has grown to the point that if they ever feel the need to cone along and "confiscate" they might have to pack a lunch. Also, long time CCW holder although I don't feel the need to carry.

When you talk about getting a weapon taken away from you on a "date", you are just a dumb fucknuts that shouldn't have been there in the first place. And you certainly shouldn't own any weapons and be allowed to carry. It's just a matter of time before blood is spilled.

I guess I have been fortunate, but I prefer smart. I've never been in a place where I thought, "Gee, I wish I had a gun". The outcome is NEVER going to be what you think it is. I have this sneaking suspicion Mr. Rozay is a punk kid, I can't fathom how any adult would be that fucking stupid.

MyTinyDick
10-27-21, 08:40
Not "butthurt" as you put it but fucking retards make responsible weapons owners like myself look bad. The gun grabbing lunatics fight every day to take away our rights to own guns and then jackasses come along talking about guns like they are toys. I got my first gun when I was 9 and let's just say the collection has grown to the point that if they ever feel the need to cone along and "confiscate" they might have to pack a lunch. Also, long time CCW holder although I don't feel the need to carry.

When you talk about getting a weapon taken away from you on a "date", you are just a dumb fucknuts that shouldn't have been there in the first place. And you certainly shouldn't own any weapons and be allowed to carry. It's just a matter of time before blood is spilled.

I guess I have been fortunate, but I prefer smart. I've never been in a place where I thought, "Gee, I wish I had a gun". The outcome is NEVER going to be what you think it is. I have this sneaking suspicion Mr. Rozay is a punk kid, I can't fathom how any adult would be that fucking stupid.When Thomas Jefferson wrote the constitution a firearm was a muzzleloader or flintlock. They were single shot weapons. The pistol were frequently fired and then spun around and used as a club. If your not fighting to have the unconstitutional disarming of convicts that's all I'm willing to allow you.

Scooter6
10-27-21, 09:25
If you feel the need to carry a gun to a "date", it should be time to reassess your life choices. One of the main points you learn early on as a gun owner and is especially driven in during your CCW training is that when you draw your weapon be prepared to take a life.

I see a lot of shit talking about weapons on here and all it is proving is we have some really stupid motherfuckers. You don't strap a weapon on and then put yourself in a risky situation thinking that gunning down another human is going to save your ass from the court room. How fucking stupid are you? Someone breaks into my home and I cut them in half with my shotgun, no regrets. Going to meet a hooker for illegal activities and having to explain why I was strapped and drew a weapon? Thats not going to get explained away.

Think before you talk shit.I have to agree on this one. If you're putting yourself in situations where you think there is even a remote chance you need to be strapped, then you probably need to choose someone else or find another hobby.

Yes, I get the whole 'I'm going to protect myself. ' blah blah blah. But seriously, if you're going to sketchy places where there is a hint of needing your sideshooter, then guess what, you need to NOT be there!

To each their own, I suppose. But I for one will not put myself in that type of situation to begin with. But, regardless of which side of the fence you sit on, stay safe out there.

NeckAuthority
10-27-21, 13:28
Not "butthurt" as you put it but fucking retards make responsible weapons owners like myself look bad. The gun grabbing lunatics fight every day to take away our rights to own guns and then jackasses come along talking about guns like they are toys. I got my first gun when I was 9 and let's just say the collection has grown to the point that if they ever feel the need to cone along and "confiscate" they might have to pack a lunch. Also, long time CCW holder although I don't feel the need to carry.

When you talk about getting a weapon taken away from you on a "date", you are just a dumb fucknuts that shouldn't have been there in the first place. And you certainly shouldn't own any weapons and be allowed to carry. It's just a matter of time before blood is spilled.

I guess I have been fortunate, but I prefer smart. I've never been in a place where I thought, "Gee, I wish I had a gun". The outcome is NEVER going to be what you think it is. I have this sneaking suspicion Mr. Rozay is a punk kid, I can't fathom how any adult would be that fucking stupid.Unless you looking for trouble nobody should be heading into a situation with the idea of "think I may need it" I said in another post, That its hella fishy how if your inside that someone can sneak up on you and sucker you, and coincidentally get your piece. That's really suspect. Benefit of the doubt I'm thinking he tried to reach for and the dude man-handled and got it. Which is another no-no.

I've been at gunpoint with and without a piece on me. If I know I'll just forfeit a wallet, some change whatever I'm cool with that no need to escalate it. There's been times when I had to. Yet most times Law & Order keep me above water (left and righty). People rush to get guns and don't know how to use the oldest weapons in history. People also need to know how to take a hit, and keep pushing foward. Only way I think the dude got his gun is because he tried to pull it or punk the dude and he looking sweet. Glad he walked away though.

Also ain't noone trying to take anyone guns (legal ones) that's just some political shid to garnish votes.

PervNerd48
10-27-21, 14:11
Also ain't noone trying to take anyone guns (legal ones) that's just some political shid to garnish votes.As a loosy-goosy lefty liberal, I can sum up my position on gun control pretty succinctly:

If you think your right to bear arms outweighs my strong desire to not get shot, we have a problem.

I believe in responsible gun ownership, understand the needs and desires of those who hunt, and don't want to take away a person's ability to reasonably defend themselves. And if you want to collect guns because you think some of them are cool, I'm down. I used to collect comic books. I get it.

I am incredibly afraid of anything that can fire off bullets faster than I can count, especially when these sort of weapons end up in the hands of those least qualified to own a slingshot.

If we could all come together on that issue and minimize the number of crazy multiple-person shootings in the US, I'll be happy. Yes, I have all sorts of clever arguments about the 2nd amendment and the founding fathers and whatnot, but really, it all boils down to I just don't want to get shot.

Thus endeth my crazy liberal communist plot. May your next hummer be tooth-free.

Sportster2005
10-27-21, 15:24
As a loosy-goosy lefty liberal, I can sum up my position on gun control pretty succinctly:

If you think your right to bear arms outweighs my strong desire to not get shot, we have a problem.

I believe in responsible gun ownership, understand the needs and desires of those who hunt, and don't want to take away a person's ability to reasonably defend themselves. And if you want to collect guns because you think some of them are cool, I'm down. I used to collect comic books. I get it.

I am incredibly afraid of anything that can fire off bullets faster than I can count, especially when these sort of weapons end up in the hands of those least qualified to own a slingshot.

If we could all come together on that issue and minimize the number of crazy multiple-person shootings in the US, I'll be happy. Yes, I have all sorts of clever arguments about the 2nd amendment and the founding fathers and whatnot, but really, it all boils down to I just don't want to get shot.

Thus endeth my crazy liberal communist plot. May your next hummer be tooth-free." An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ".

MikeEbanks
10-27-21, 17:21
I have to agree on this one. If you're putting yourself in situations where you think there is even a remote chance you need to be strapped, then you probably need to choose someone else or find another hobby.

Yes, I get the whole 'I'm going to protect myself. ' blah blah blah. But seriously, if you're going to sketchy places where there is a hint of needing your sideshooter, then guess what, you need to NOT be there!

To each their own, I suppose. But I for one will not put myself in that type of situation to begin with. But, regardless of which side of the fence you sit on, stay safe out there.Agreed, I rather be armed than not armed. Now, it is best to avoid the situation altogether because even if I carried a whole armory is useless if some else shoot me first.

ArchyRozay
10-27-21, 18:04
I have this sneaking suspicion Mr. Rozay is a punk kid, I can't fathom how any adult would be that fucking stupid.Judging by your very uneducated response, it seems as if you haven't even read the account of what happened. You've just gleaned some information here and there and making absolutely outlandish assumptions that couldn't be further from the truth so I'll go ahead and clear the air for you. Read the post again and you'll see that I was there to see ronnie, NOT Desi. I had established a rapport with her where I would front her room money and she would pay me back right after she did a date. She left to do a car date and came back with my money. By this time, the room had filled with people that I did not know. I just wanted to get my money back and get tf out of there. Got the cash and as I was walking out the door while my back was turned, 3 men inside the room grabbed me, pulled me back in and started jumping me. It's pretty easy to see a gun on a man in that situation. I'm lucky I made it out alive. The place was off of Dunn Ave. But to say I'm likely some "punk kid" is honestly cute to say the least. Anyone can be had at these rinky dink motels providers typically choose to reside in. If you think you're immune, go right ahead and stay oblivious to the potential dangers of these situations. But please. Please. Stop making ridiculous assumptions and comments here. It only further lends itself to NeckAuthority's assertion that you sound "butthurt". Thanks.

-ArchyRozay.

PervNerd48
10-29-21, 18:16
" An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. ".Funny thing- the quote is from a Robert Heinlein novel, and it's meant to be satirical. From Quora:

"The quote in question is from Beyond This Horizon, Heinlein's 1948 novel, originally published as a two part serial in Astounding Science Fiction in 1942.

Here's the original quote, in context:

An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.

Like Heinlein himself, this novel and this quote are both complicated and often contentiously interpreted.

In Beyond This Horizon, the world Heinlein creates is a post-scarcity utopia, somewhat like Roddenberry's Star Trek. Poverty, war, disease, conflict, even aging have been tamed and defeated. Genetic modification is normal to make all people perfect specimens. There is no want in this world. Every need is met. Nobody does a single thing they do not want to do.

And people are bored of it. They're bored, immortal supermen. Bumping around into other bored, immortal supermen. All the time.

What follows is a thought experiment. It's an exercise in what Freud called "the narcissism of minor differences. ".

Because people are bored and face no adversity and human nature itself remains unchanged, people simply end up getting offended over increasingly trivial matters. They get offended over mere slights of etiquette and protocol.

Because every person is a perfect human specimen, eventually dueling with sidearms becomes the means to settle interpersonal conflict. Every person wears a firearm at all times. In fact, to not have a firearm is a mark of shame; those who do not have a gun are shunned as pariahs.

Why must you be polite in this society?

Because every interaction that is not perfectly mannered could require a duel to the death between otherwise immortal supermen. ".

JaxHunter01
10-31-21, 06:21
I have to laugh. Everyone bitching about the subpar quality of escorts in the area. However someone must be fucking, these trolls and pigs, at inflated prices. Supply and demand. Most of these trolls need to be walking Main Street working for a Jackson. Not getting paid $ for a substandard quick visit. I for one, will retain my money and develop a few Utrs. Quit complaining, quit paying outrageous fees and starve the trolls out. Why would a quality provider want to come here, when everyone is trying to get a discount. Our STG looks like a Jenny Craig advertisement. So quit chasing a unicorn they don't live in Cracksonville. Just my two cents.

Powerhouse100
10-31-21, 08:56
I have to laugh. Everyone bitching about the subpar quality of escorts in the area. However someone must be fucking, these trolls and pigs, at inflated prices. Supply and demand. Most of these trolls need to be walking Main Street working for a Jackson. Not getting paid $ for a substandard quick visit. I for one, will retain my money and develop a few Utrs. Quit complaining, quit paying outrageous fees and starve the trolls out. Why would a quality provider want to come here, when everyone is trying to get a discount. Our STG looks like a Jenny Craig advertisement. So quit chasing a unicorn they don't live in Cracksonville. Just my two cents.When a man is right, he's right! I've definitely had my fill!

NeckAuthority
11-01-21, 00:11
When a man is right, he's right! I've definitely had my fill!I use to have one for each finger I had. Now all either left up north or 6 ft under. Man all the possible ones acting like hoes. I keep saying this, but their must be a forum for these hoes. Ain't no way coincidently these hoes started charging 80-100 for a qv at almost the same time. Also on dating apps regular gals are speaking the lingo (qv, Rose's all that), and usually I stop communicating after that. Don't do that time shid outside the usual game. Flat fee for whatever.

Think it's this Red Pill shid. There's to many sex addicted Simps gat would pound drywall if there was a hole. 3-5 years ago and before was so much fun. SW was sexy and not cracked out. I was raw dogging one at her place for years. Always clean and hygienic sexy with big hooters. I told a story before, when my ac was broke, the doe put me in her ride,(newer year than mine) did the deed. I left my main phone, and she was chill about returning it.

Man those days is over. Alot of sissy boys and.

Skinny / fat-o-lards things walking. The milfs in sin city was a blessing. Lawd have mercy just nothing in Jax anymore.

Fuck it a rant.

WTF is with society period now a days LOL. Why the hell these unattractive, baby damage looking like spoiled milk / melted cheese, morbidly obese bimbos think they are hot shid. I like bbw, but damn just because your big as all out doors, does not make you a bbw. Beautiful play a part somewhere. Like damn. Then can't really get credible reviews here. Last one I took which screwed me over was that gal off Atlantic. Had to buy fungus spray bc my juevos was itching for a week and some. Plus the BJ was mediocre. Makes me want to just hang up the jacket, but I stay looking for the Unicorns LOL.

Low Baller
12-25-21, 12:47
So I've been lurking and using the info off this board for several years. Finally decided to register and post. We all know who Bubbles is. Yeah I know, but I honestly don't find her that appalling. She sucks cock like a champ, and she will take a a good fucking. One time I was in mish digging deep and pulling just out to stick back in. She, after a minute she says, "you know you are in my ass" LOL! Yeah baby! So in short. She's a great time. A cool chick. And I definitely will repeat because again, she's a cool chick. Never had any issues with hygiene. I've even had her over to the casa.

https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/come-check-me-out-at-my-new-pl/531359362976Santa will give a lump of coal to Bubles' pimp for that selfie!

Unbelievable and clearly selfie.

Lump of Coal Award to Bubbles.

DirtyGrndpa
12-27-21, 20:13
Santa will give a lump of coal to Bubles' pimp for that selfie!

Unbelievable and clearly selfie.

Lump of Coal Award to Bubbles.I assure you brother I'm not a damn provider, much less Bubbles. So let me get this right. I post an option you don't agree with, so you in turn assume the worse. You try to call me out as a fraud? Really not worth my time taking this to the woodshed. Typical millennial douche bag. Only your opinion matters. Right?

Low Baller
12-28-21, 08:02
I assure you brother I'm not a damn provider, much less Bubbles. So let me get this right. I post an option you don't agree with, so you in turn assume the worse. You try to call me out as a fraud? Really not worth my time taking this to the woodshed. Typical millennial douche bag. Only your opinion matters. Right?My opinion is that a selfie was done. The addition of stuff about taking her to one's casa part and praise with no details of Bubbles, when mongers here already know she looks like just smacks of selfie or more probable bubbles' pimp trying to drum up business. But, of course, I could be mistaken, this is only my opinion.

Mongers, you only need to do a search on Bubbles to see what a beauty she is, and then wonder why any of us would see her two times with gushing praise, and then say we were so excited by her we took her to our home for a third time.

Weird, no?

Low Baller
02-15-22, 11:34
I've been a regular for the last couple of months (eight meets) and never have had an issue with cashapp donations with Karmen. Karmen has always treated me fair and honest. There's always two sides to a story and I happen to know hers so that being said I felt compelled to respond to this review. It's the girls livelihood so I think its only fair.We all heard the monger's side. Sounded like she took him to the financial cleaners and he got no service from her for giving her his hard earned money. You are partial to her - 8 meets in a couple of months (that's weekly for months) and you said she has a side and you happen to know it. You also say it is her livelihood, so you want to be fair. Ok, to be really fair, what is her side of the story? Are you saying she did not take his cash via an app without proving him services, because it do not sound like you are saying that at all?

SteveJones1969
02-15-22, 18:01
We all heard the monger's side. Sounded like she took him to the financial cleaners and he got no service from her for giving her his hard earned money. You are partial to her - 8 meets in a couple of months (that's weekly for months) and you said she has a side and you happen to know it. You also say it is her livelihood, so you want to be fair. Ok, to be really fair, what is her side of the story? Are you saying she did not take his cash via an app without proving him services, because it do not sound like you are saying that at all?I think you miss-read the original post. The monger did not pay her anything because his cash app did not work. She wanted something because of he time he was already there. Sounds fair to me. But instead he just wasted her time and drove off laughing about it. Yea, sure, these girls waste a lot of our time as well but he should have flipped her something. And of course, what he should do is show up with the cash in hand.

I have also visited Karmen and it is always a very straight forward transaction. Yes the place she stays is not the best but she keeps her room OK. She does have toys if you want that. She has a better body than most and has always been lucid during my visits. Put it this way. She is better than most girls on the site and we should all encourage more girls to be like her. We all complain about the quality around town, be thankful when we have one who provides what she says. I will be visiting again and will give all of you guys the thumbs up on this one.

BigEnk61
02-15-22, 20:27
We all heard the monger's side. Sounded like she took him to the financial cleaners and he got no service from her for giving her his hard earned money. You are partial to her - 8 meets in a couple of months (that's weekly for months) and you said she has a side and you happen to know it. You also say it is her livelihood, so you want to be fair. Ok, to be really fair, what is her side of the story? Are you saying she did not take his cash via an app without proving him services, because it do not sound like you are saying that at all?You need to re-read (MRBrooks) original post. I Know its long winded but it says nothing about paying her anything only that he attempted too. I'll private message you with the details on her side of the story.

Low Baller
02-16-22, 17:59
We all heard the monger's side. Sounded like she took him to the financial cleaners and he got no service from her for giving her his hard earned money. You are partial to her - 8 meets in a couple of months (that's weekly for months) and you said she has a side and you happen to know it. You also say it is her livelihood, so you want to be fair. Ok, to be really fair, what is her side of the story? Are you saying she did not take his cash via an app without proving him services, because it do not sound like you are saying that at all?I support what I hear from mongers, but I am also open to hearing from providers. I was Wrong re Karmen, the other side of everything has me believing she was right. Thanks fellow monger for updating me!

MRBrooks1133
02-17-22, 16:15
I support what I hear from mongers, but I am also open to hearing from providers. I was Wrong re Karmen, the other side of everything has me believing she was right. Thanks fellow monger for updating me!First off you weren't there. You taking a side on this situation whether your accusing me of being wrong, or accusing her of being wrong is nothing more than a flip a coin scenario. You don't know me or any other user on this forum. So, its not right to criticize people who actually have the experience with these providers. Now, you can give your personal experience of the provider I'm talking about, that's totally fine. But to say that I'm making it up, or that I don't have the right to speak my mind about something I feel was out of line as of this, you are in fact out of line. She might be a good provider to some people, but to cherry pick when you feel its ok to rob people or take advantage of people when you feel its the right time, even if it's one time out of the year, is never OK! If your going to be a good provider, and when I mean good, I'm not talking about performance, that's subjective to ones opinion, I'm talking about the business side of things, you should be honest and straight to the point every time. Thinks for your biased opinion.

ToeLover
02-19-22, 15:26
The purpose of these boards is to share your experience. Bunch of fucking Karens on here who want to chime in claiming you are wrong, or lying. Post your experience. If others don't like it then they can post their own experiences.


First off you weren't there. You taking a side on this situation whether your accusing me of being wrong, or accusing her of being wrong is nothing more than a flip a coin scenario. You don't know me or any other user on this forum. So, its not right to criticize people who actually have the experience with these providers. Now, you can give your personal experience of the provider I'm talking about, that's totally fine. But to say that I'm making it up, or that I don't have the right to speak my mind about something I feel was out of line as of this, you are in fact out of line. She might be a good provider to some people, but to cherry pick when you feel its ok to rob people or take advantage of people when you feel its the right time, even if it's one time out of the year, is never OK! If your going to be a good provider, and when I mean good, I'm not talking about performance, that's subjective to ones opinion, I'm talking about the business side of things, you should be honest and straight to the point every time. Thinks for your biased opinion.

Powerhouse100
02-23-22, 02:09
I have text at least 20 providers over the last few days. Either get ghosted or no response. Getting dry out there!These girls have finally figured it out. If fools are going to pay any and everything moving a $100 minimum for a qv and if they see at least 2 clients a day, that's $200 per day for only 30 minutes of work. Why would anyone want to see dozens of strange dicks when you can make money like this. It's a no-brainer for them; especially for low skilled workers. Those who say it's my money and I pay what I want also contributes to the problem. Once a provider makes her 200, as stated above, which means only seeing 2 clients that day, they are out of the rotation until perhaps the next day. Of course, if we stick to a reasonable donation of 60 for qv, it'll force them to see more clients per day; there is already a supply and demand problem. More clients and very little providers. I don't see this happening with the desperate. To begin with, many of these girls don't even like sex and it is their mission to work less, yet, get more of our dollars. They can be very lazy, in other words. At any rate, the hobby, as we knew it, is destroyed! Might as well find a new hobby with less frustration, I suppose. Also, keep in mind, these girls can get more than 100 texts / calls per day. The odds are stacked against those who want some strange! LOL.

Low Baller
02-23-22, 12:32
These girls have finally figured it out. If fools are going to pay any and everything moving a $100 minimum for a qv and if they see at least 2 clients a day, that's $200 per day for only 30 minutes of work. Why would anyone want to see dozens of strange dicks when you can make money like this. It's a no-brainer for them; especially for low skilled workers. Those who say it's my money and I pay what I want also contributes to the problem. Once a provider makes her 200, as stated above, which means only seeing 2 clients that day, they are out of the rotation until perhaps the next day. Of course, if we stick to a reasonable donation of 60 for qv, it'll force them to see more clients per day; there is already a supply and demand problem. More clients and very little providers. I don't see this happening with the desperate. To begin with, many of these girls don't even like sex and it is their mission to work less, yet, get more of our dollars. They can be very lazy, in other words. At any rate, the hobby, as we knew it, is destroyed! Might as well find a new hobby with less frustration, I suppose. Also, keep in mind, these girls can get more than 100 texts / calls per day. The odds are stacked against those who want some strange! LOL.I agree wise Powerhouse – too many guys are paying whatever the providers ask. Not only on STG but on all media such as Tryst – guys seem to think they have to pay the asking price.

Fellow mongers please stop agreeing to these high asking donations. Understand as Powerhouse pointed out, when you overpay it causes consequences like decrease in the providers' services, lack of response to texts, poor services, etc. , and that all leads to you overpaying even more and more consequences!

Negotiate. Negotiate. Negotiate.

If you cannot negotiate, then at least offer the provider 10 coins less and say that is all you have. Remember, providers need your coins, they pay the room by the day and have food and candy needs, so they need your coins. Why have so many providers quit posting? If they say no too often, then they become homeless and you will find them walking along Phillips, etc. These providers cannot last by saying no if you offer them fewer coins. Whatever she ask for qv or hh – offer her 10 or 20 coins less.

RawDawg904
02-24-22, 07:52
Guys. When you see someone like GibbyHaynes with little to no posts, and none of them make sense or have any value, realize it's the same loser that went by MyTinyDick, DirtyDianesWig, DirtyDiane, YourLying, YourLying2, and now GibbyHaynes. He had a few others and they all keep getting banned. Just ignore that loser, as nothing they ever say has any value at all, and he's just trying to get you to respond. He's an absolute waste of everything! Ignore those types!

NeckAuthority
02-25-22, 00:45
Just curious due to the choice of hobbyists here, anyone watch the interviews from the soft under belly?

Ayenjael
02-25-22, 10:22
You boys out here pissing these girls off.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LaneyBanks2/status/1496668074249969665

Red Talon
02-25-22, 14:22
You boys out here pissing these girls off.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LaneyBanks2/status/1496668074249969665Looks like she forgot "filthy wh-o-re" in her list of "titles". Talk about a hypocrite, she takes dick for a living and has the gall to call others out. DERRRHHH.

AMnnos
02-25-22, 14:23
You boys out here pissing these girls off.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LaneyBanks2/status/1496668074249969665And her "No No's".

RawDawg904
02-25-22, 17:02
More gamgbou bullshit! Your hero chip east west was found facedown on a dope house yard and hauled off to jail. He showed the cops his wiener one to many times.Wow. You're stupid. No one will respond to you're garbage again. Go get a life, pathetic loser.

DWaltonXXX
02-25-22, 17:04
More gamgbou bullshit! Your hero chip east west was found facedown on a dope house yard and hauled off to jail. He showed the cops his wiener one to many times.Do you know that you're completely unintelligible? You should experiment with using sentences, and those sentences should have real words in them. It's even better when the content of those sentences jibes with reality.

Kma2016
02-25-22, 20:14
Do you know that you're completely unintelligible? You should experiment with using sentences, and those sentences should have real words in them. It's even better when the content of those sentences jibes with reality.Don't feed trolls. Just add to your ignore list.

JustinCider904
02-28-22, 10:43
I agree wise Powerhouse too many guys are paying whatever the providers ask. Not only on STG but on all media such as Tryst guys seem to think they have to pay the asking price.

Fellow mongers please stop agreeing to these high asking donations. Understand as Powerhouse pointed out, when you overpay it causes consequences like decrease in the providers' services, lack of response to texts, poor services, etc. , and that all leads to you overpaying even more and more consequences!

Negotiate. Negotiate. Negotiate.

If you cannot negotiate, then at least offer the provider 10 coins less and say that is all you have. Remember, providers need your coins, they pay the room by the day and have food and candy needs, so they need your coins. Why have so many providers quit posting? If they say no too often, then they become homeless and you will find them walking along Phillips, etc. These providers cannot last by saying no if you offer them fewer coins. Whatever she ask for qv or hh offer her 10 or 20 coins less.I agree with LB on negotiating with the low quality girls (99.9% of STG girls). But please stop doing it to the good looking young girls that start here or come through here. If you don't think someone is worth their price move on and quit fucking it up for the rest of us that do not want to fuck girls for or worth two Jacksons. If you don't believe a Lexus is better than a Toyota then stay with the Toyota, get a used beat up one and negotiate away. But stop trying to talk the Lexus down to used Toyota prices. Whether you think so or not, this is a large reason prices are going UP. Quality girls are constantly driven out of our area by douce bags that treat Beyonce's like Lizzo's, or Scarlette Johansson like Tess Holiday. Because there is no competing quality girls to set the market a swan can charge 80-100 QV because there are an abundance of horny dudes and not an equal amount of providers. Negotiating low prices does not set the market, supply and demand does. The supply here is very low and the demand is outragoues. There is a reason you don't find a Ferrari dealership in Green Cove Springs. And its not because there aren't enough Ferrari's. There are literally thousands of mongers in the city and surrounding area and only about 2-3 dozen regular providers. Guys, especially mongers, will eventually low their standards to what ever is available. Thats just reality, and a quick view of this board will confrim that real quick. If we had even 6-10 good looking clean providers (lets call these the Lexus') then the Toyota's would loose a lot of appeal for many of us. Of course there are plenty of mongers that just want a nut and don't care where it comes from, what the girl looks like, or even if she has an obvious cold sore on her lip while she gives a BBBJ. But I don't believe most of us are that person. If so this board wouldn't likely exist, and surely wouldn't be as popular. This isn't usadiscountpussy. Nl, though it could be a good start up venture for someone, and then we can get a board where they go there for the cheap crap and we can establish something better here.

Low Baller
02-28-22, 13:05
I agree with LB on negotiating with the low quality girls (99.9% of STG girls). But please stop doing it to the good looking young girls that start here or come through here. If you don't think someone is worth their price move on and quit fucking it up for the rest of us that do not want to fuck girls for or worth two Jacksons. If you don't believe a Lexus is better than a Toyota then stay with the Toyota, get a used beat up one and negotiate away. But stop trying to talk the Lexus down to used Toyota prices. Whether you think so or not, this is a large reason prices are going UP. Quality girls are constantly driven out of our area by douce bags that treat Beyonce's like Lizzo's, or Scarlette Johansson like Tess Holiday. Because there is no competing quality girls to set the market a swan can charge 80-100 QV because there are an abundance of horny dudes and not an equal amount of providers. Negotiating low prices does not set the market, supply and demand does. The supply here is very low and the demand is outragoues. There is a reason you don't find a Ferrari dealership in Green Cove Springs. And its not because there aren't enough Ferrari's. There are literally thousands of mongers in the city and surrounding area and only about 2-3 dozen regular providers..Understand, but the logic has a major error. Low Balling is Not comparable to buying a Toyota vs a Ferrari, instead low balling is about Not Over Paying for either that Ferrari or Toyota!

What do I mean? Some people over pay big time when buying a car, while others know how to negotiate and get the exact same car for much less. If I am buying a Ferrari or a Toyota, then I will Not pay sticker and additional dealer profit fees and dealer add-ons (like pin striping, ha ha), nope I will negotiate for a much lower price. Some guys are afraid to negotiate, or think it is wrong and end up paying above sticker plus add-on feeds and additional dealer profit fees for the exact same car I bought for much less. That is exactly what I am talking about when I say as a general rule, always offer a provider at least. 10 or. 20 less than her original asking price. Why? Because, mongers like me will negotiate with providers from their asking price, and we will Pay Much Less than the mongers who refuse to negotiate will pay for the exact same fun with the exact Same provider.

So if one feels good paying much more than I pay for the exact same CFS with the exact same provider that is fine, whatever makes one happy is cool.

As for harming the provider market, negotiating, I. E. Offering less than a provider's asking price is not causing any negative effect. A provider and say no, and other mongers can then pay her full asking price. My offering her less will not ever make her quit the business. As for top quality providers, that is too subjective. Many providers I think are hags, others find attractive. Some providers I review as great, other review as avoid. Who know what is really a super hot provider, I know that many asking high prices are not, so I cannot use that as a measuring stick. But, assume there is a super babe provider and I offer her. 3 less than her asking price; I do not believe that will make her quit the business. If she is so hot, some other monger will pay her asking price. In a free market economy, negotiating for a fair price is crucial. So mongers, unless one gets his jollies by over-paying, we must keep offering less than those insane high asking prices given by providers.

JustinCider904
03-01-22, 11:20
Understand, but the logic has a major error. Low Balling is Not comparable to buying a Toyota vs a Ferrari, instead low balling is about Not Over Paying for either that Ferrari or Toyota!

As for harming the provider market, negotiating, I. E. Offering less than a provider's asking price is not causing any negative effect. A provider and say no, and other mongers can then pay her full asking price. My offering her less will not ever make her quit the business. As for top quality providers, that is too subjective. Many providers I think are hags, others find attractive. Some providers I review as great, other review as avoid. Who know what is really a super hot provider, I know that many asking high prices are not, so I cannot use that as a measuring stick. But, assume there is a super babe provider and I offer her. 3 less than her asking price; I do not believe that will make her quit the business. If she is so hot, some other monger will pay her asking price. In a free market economy, negotiating for a fair price is crucial. So mongers, unless one gets his jollies by over-paying, we must keep offering less than those insane high asking prices given by providers.The fact that you focused on Toyota vs Ferrari shows that you missed my point entirely, or just disregarded it and focused on two extremes to prove your point. I comparded Toyota to a Lexus, and did so purposely because I have met many people that do not see a difference between the two that justify the price difference. If you are one of these people, then you will never understand; or at least not until you are in a position where the price is no longer the hangup on whether it could be considered. I completely agree that a single person offering a low price, or negotiating will not put someone out of business; I think we can all agree on this. However; getting flooded with these offers will make them move on. This is what I am advocating against. If you put a Lexus dealership in a market where the sales people are all tied up with offers at Toyota prices they are going to pack up business and go somewhere else their product is appreciated. This is what is happening in our market. We live in a free market economy (which really is irrelevant here since this is not a legal transaction and lives by its own set of rules, or absent from them but I digress), and no one can stop you from doing what ever you wish. But my point is your (and others with this mindset) are forcing the Lexus' to pack up and go where they are appreciated and can make a living without dealing with being undervalued. It is true that there are times that you can negotiate someone down to a ridiculous rate or even down a couple of Hamiltons, and you feel very accomplished after this fact. That's great, though it is probably not a great quality to be proud of getting joy from making someone else feel less than (warranted or not). If saving a Hamilton or a Jackson will really make or break your decision or expereince then stick with the Harleys, and Bubbly Blondes, and swans, and stop chasing the Mid-Tier+ girls out of town for your own selfish reasons. Your tactics are not forcing prices down, they are forcing providers out and leaving the market with only dollar store material. Leaving only low quality over priced providers.

Low Baller
03-01-22, 19:55
The fact that you focused on Toyota vs Ferrari shows that you missed my point entirely, or just disregarded it and focused on two extremes to prove your point. I comparded Toyota to a Lexus, and did so purposely because I have met many people that do not see a difference between the two that justify the price difference. If you are one of these people, then you will never understand; or at least not until you are in a position where the price is no longer the hangup on whether it could be considered. I completely agree that a single person offering a low price, or negotiating will not put someone out of business; I think we can all agree on this. However; getting flooded with these offers will make them move on. This is what I am advocating against. If you put a Lexus dealership in a market where the sales people are all tied up with offers at Toyota prices they are going to pack up business and go somewhere else their product is appreciated. This is what is happening in our market.Providers are offering us mongers a service. Hence, comparing buying 30 minutes of FS fun from a hottie with buying a Lexus is mentally incorrect and just plain wrong. Services simply are not things and cannot really be logically compared with things like cars! Further, whether a monger likes to buy expensive cars, or cheap cars has nothing to do with a monger's desire for providers or for the coins he is willing to pay, and to compare those is a logic error and false.

Some argue that high quality provers will move away if mongers offer to pay the providers less than their asking price. As proof they point to the lack of quality in Jax right now. But, there is no reason a provider would move out of town because some mongers offered her less. In fact, currently many mongers are paying the full asking price, so I can use the same proof and say that the not negotiating has made the current lack of quality in providers. What is the reason for the current lack of quality? I do not really know; I have no answer. Perhaps it just runs in wave cycles.

Finally, offering a provider less does not mean I am suggesting to picking a swan for a car date while some big spending dude picks a young hottie at a fancy hotel. I say compare the same provider, at the same hotel and for the same service, but at different prices! That is, if Provider Hottie asks 200 for qv FS and a monger pays 200 without offering her less, then fine. But, for comparison, I contact the same Provider Hottie and I offer her 150 for the qv FS, which she accepts. I had lots of fun with the her, the only difference was that I paid 150 and the other monger paid 200! Perhaps some mongers get their jollies over paying, but I prefer to pay a fair rate that both the provider and I agree upon. No, it has nothing to do with what I can afford, the issue is simply to offer the provider less for the same thing other dues over pay for.

Negotiate! Negotiate! If a provider refuses your offer, then you decide if you want to pay her full price or try some one else. The choice is up to you, just as the choice is up to the provider to accept your offer or to see no one. With the quality and quantity so low right now, too many mongers just pay the full asking rate and as a result the providers have shot their asking rates to insane levels. Mongers – we all need to negotiate, for example, offer. 10 or. 20 less is all you have to do in order to enjoy the same provider for the same service at the same hotel that some mongers pay insanely high prices for. Besides, I believe providers do not respect guys who have no balls and are afraid to offer them less. So, mongers start lowering providers' prices now by offering them less. It will improve quality and services for us all.

JustinCider904
03-01-22, 23:04
Providers are offering us mongers a service. Hence, comparing buying 30 minutes of FS fun from a hottie with buying a Lexus is mentally incorrect and just plain wrong. Services simply are not things and cannot really be logically compared with things like cars! Further, whether a monger likes to buy expensive cars, or cheap cars has nothing to do with a monger's desire for providers or for the coins he is willing to pay, and to compare those is a logic error and false.

Some argue that high quality provers will move away if mongers offer to pay the providers less than their asking price. As proof they point to the lack of quality in Jax right now. But, there is no reason a provider would move out of town because some mongers offered her less. In fact, currently many mongers are paying the full asking price, so I can use the same proof and say that the not negotiating has made the current lack of quality in providers. What is the reason for the current lack of quality? I do not really know; I have no answer. Perhaps it just runs in wave cycles.
I used a cars metaphore because a cars value is subjective much like a provider. Any car that does more than get you from point A to point B has a subjective value, just like all providers have a subjective value. What you find valuable about them could be a range of things from the way they look, feel, bragging rights, fit, comfort. The list goes on and on. But ultimately it is a means to an end. And to state that my (along with many others) view point is wrong without a counter reason is incredibly illogical. Your hangup is undoubtable pricing, which is why you are trying to get everyone else on this board to follow your lead, but you claim it is not about price. Really, 10,20, hell even 50 to 100 dollars is inconsiquencial for many of us, but for you it literally defines whether someone is worth your time. The reality is, unless they are desperate; you're not worth their time. And your so stuck on the trees you can't see the forest. Many of us want at least a few nice reliable girls we can see without worrying about issues, and want to see them regularly. Your tactics might get you a nut at a discounted rate in the short term, but adds to the hassle the provider goes through, and there are unfortuantly enough mongers like yourself doing the same thing, causing them to move to places like Orlando and Atlanta as Poke pointed out. A city where there are over a million and a half people should have at least a handful of decent providers, but the reality is I don't blame them for leaving after dealing with this day in and day out. Most other major cities are not like this (hell not even major, medium ones are way better), it sucks for those of us that look past the moment. Clearly from the posts you have given us your main desire is not just to spend some intimate time with someone, you demean the women and are proud enough to brag about it. My goal by having this open discussion is to hopefully catch the attention of quality providers that are reading this board, so they know there are good mongers out here that understand they are people too. While also hopefully offering a counter argument to deter others that have any interest in having long time quality providers. Quality is also very subjective, and clearly our definitions of quality are quite different; and that is okay.

Moral of the story, don't be this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgHcYxKjwVE

Low Baller
03-02-22, 01:30
I used a cars metaphore because a cars value is subjective much like a provider. Any car that does more than get you from point A to point B has a subjective value, just like all providers have a subjective value. What you find valuable about them could be a range of things from the way they look, feel, bragging rights, fit, comfort. The list goes on and on. But ultimately it is a means to an end. And to state that my (along with many others) view point is wrong without a counter reason is incredibly illogical. Your hangup is undoubtable pricing, which is why you are trying to get everyone else on this board to follow your lead, but you claim it is not about price. Really, 10,20, hell even 50 to 100 dollars is inconsiquencial for many of us, but for you it literally defines whether someone is worth your time. The reality is, unless they are desperate; you're not worth their time. And your so stuck on the trees you can't see the forest. Many of us want at least a few nice reliable girls we can see without worrying about issues, and want to see them regularly. Your tactics might get you a nut at a discounted rate in the short term, but adds to the hassle the provider goes through, and there are unfortuantly enough mongers like yourself doing the same thing, causing them to move to places like Orlando and Atlanta as Poke pointed out.I understood every word written. Also, the lack of logic and critical thinking. Plus the personal attacks when attempts at logic failed. Noticed it all and understood it all. As for subjective, I am the one that raised that point and kept trying to keep the argument logical and on point instead of emotional and personal attacks.

Also, you seem to know a lot, but you have no proof, no statistical support, like your dictate saying offering mid-priced providers caused them to move out of town. Hence, you demanded I quit offering such providers less than their full price. And then some stuff that the poor providers are working so hard, it is mean for me to offer them less. I am so mean. Yep, I got it all, every jumbled, mixed up thought of it.

Point is, providers expect to have lower prices offered. The logic that these poor girls need to be paid their full asking price is simple provider=logic and silly.

Bottom line, I probably see the same providers you see and have the same fun with them and pay them. 50 or more less! If one gets his jollies paying more for the same provider and the same services, then that is cool, to each his own. But, do not attack me for paying less to that same provider you see.

Providers do not respect guys without balls who cannot make them a counter offer, it is that simple. Excuses, excuses can not cover up that fact.

Mongers, let's make this non-personal, providers jacked up the prices and we need to have the balls to make a counter offer for. 10 or. 20 less. Only then will providers respect us and their services improve.

JustinCider904
03-02-22, 11:36
I understood every word written. Also, the lack of logic and critical thinking. Plus the personal attacks when attempts at logic failed. Noticed it all and understood it all. As for subjective, I am the one that raised that point and kept trying to keep the argument logical and on point instead of emotional and personal attacks.

Providers do not respect guys without balls who cannot make them a counter offer, it is that simple. Excuses, excuses can not cover up that fact.

Mongers, let's make this non-personal, providers jacked up the prices and we need to have the balls to make a counter offer for. 10 or. 20 less. Only then will providers respect us and their services improve.Sir you made it personal with the statement "mentally incorrect". As you seem to somehow find yourself a scholar of some sort, mental is a personal state of being and not a general statement about a population or position. So, you can use that logic on yourself. And my statement wasn't a personal attack but a statement of reasonable logic from statements you make in your posts about how you treat these women and what you think about them. Your abusive attitude and tactics are destroying it for the rest of us, and your trying to force feed it down members throats by claiming you're the "man with balls" for negotiating and everyone else can have balls to if they act like you. This is laughable in so many ways. No question that most women like a strong man and respect this position, but abuse does not equal strong. And furthermore, as you have made it a point to bring up over and over; this is a financial transation. The provider does not pick who she is going to see based off how "strong" the person comes off, this statement alone suggests you are looking for some form of respect by your tactics. Since these girls are only intersted in the mighty dollar, in what world do they respect someone offering them the lowest amount at their most desprate time? I do not believe I am the one being illogical here. I brought up your past posts and obvious patterns of abuse not to personally attack you but to put into context that your idea of fun is not being intimate, it is power. This power trip, while by itself in a vacuum, does limited damage to the providers psyche that carries over farther than just your session. But when multiplied causes a total breakdown at worst, or them to reconsider the business or our area at best. Which hurts it for those of us looking for a different type of good time.

I get it, you get your validation from percived respect of "winning" a bidding war with the provider; and the sex is the by product. And there is nothing any of us can do to stop you, but this selfishness kills it for the rest of us. And to be clear, I want to draw a very distenct line between the tactics of Low Baller, and those of Powerhouse. From the information provided, Powerhouse seems to offer a provider what he deems a fair rate and if they do not accept he respectfully moves on. This is not necessarly what I am advocating against, it is the relentless need to bring the price down and taking advantage of desperate time or mood to do so. We are all taking advantage of these providers to a point, as they are of us. But kicking them when they are down is just so unhuman IMO.

Low Baller
03-02-22, 20:09
Sir you made it personal with the statement "mentally incorrect". As you seem to somehow find yourself a scholar of some sort, mental is a personal state of being and not a general statement about a population or position. So, you can use that logic on yourself. And my statement wasn't a personal attack but a statement of reasonable logic from statements you make in your posts about how you treat these women and what you think about them. Your abusive attitude and tactics are destroying it for the rest of us, and your trying to force feed it down members throats by claiming you're the "man with balls" for negotiating and everyone else can have balls to if they act like you. This is laughable in so many ways. No question that most women like a strong man and respect this position, but abuse does not equal strong. And furthermore, as you have made it a point to bring up over and over; this is a financial transation. The provider does not pick who she is going to see based off how "strong" the person comes off, this statement alone suggests you are looking for some form of respect by your tactics. Since these girls are only intersted in the mighty dollar, in what world do they respect someone offering them the lowest amount at their most desprate time? I do not believe I am the one being illogical here. I brought up your past posts and obvious patterns of abuse not to personally attack you but to put into context that your idea of fun is not being intimate, it is power. This power trip, while by itself in a vacuum, does limited damage to the providers psyche that carries over farther than just your session. But when multiplied causes a total breakdown at worst, or them to reconsider the business or our area at best. Which hurts it for those of us looking for a different type of good time.

I get it, you get your validation from percived respect of "winning" a bidding war with the provider; and the sex is the by product. And there is nothing any of us can do to stop you, but this selfishness kills it for the rest of us. And to be clear, I want to draw a very distenct line between the tactics of Low Baller, and those of Powerhouse. From the information provided, Powerhouse seems to offer a provider what he deems a fair rate and if they do not accept he respectfully moves on. This is not necessarly what I am advocating against, it is the relentless need to bring the price down and taking advantage of desperate time or mood to do so. We are all taking advantage of these providers to a point, as they are of us. But kicking them when they are down is just so unhuman IMO.Like I said, we see some the same providers, several of them know who you are from your intimacy desire and wanting to pay full asking price. As an example, the UTR provider we both see told me she gagged due to the odor coming from your jr. I gave her some packs of wipes from my car so she could wipe you down below the next time you visited. Point is, price is not everything, providers get turned off by mongers like you having odor down below. So, let's quit talking about paying full price as a way to get better quality and instead talk about better hygiene. We mongers complain when a provider has odor down below, well if we want them fresh down below, then we should also be fresh and clean down below. Maybe then we would have more out of town providers visiting Jax! Let's not scare them away boys.

PlayTiem
03-04-22, 14:21
Several touring providers avoid JAX because they perceive the mongers here as being incredibly cheap.

I understand the value of negotiation, and I don't partake of a particular provider's services if I think she is asking more than I would get from the transaction, but providers who have the option are avoiding coming here because of this. And the ones who have the options are generally higher quality providers.

TallBear
03-04-22, 17:14
Screw a bunch of negotiation!

Like most grownups my life is filled with negotiation. This "hobby" is a diversion. An occasional walk on the wild side. It's tasting a little forbidden fruit now & then, and I am way more concerned about avoiding the no-shit risks involved than dickering over dollars with a woman who almost certainly needs the cash more than I do.

First rule of negotiation: if you can walk away, you are in control of the conversation. Also, there is an inverse relationship between trying to control the conversation & actually controlling it.

I know I pay a little more than some. I consistently get rewarded for it.

But you do you.

NeckAuthority
03-06-22, 23:02
Several touring providers avoid JAX because they perceive the mongers here as being incredibly cheap.

I understand the value of negotiation, and I don't partake of a particular provider's services if I think she is asking more than I would get from the transaction, but providers who have the option are avoiding coming here because of this. And the ones who have the options are generally higher quality providers.I slowly seen the downfall of jax like pretty much all of us. Sure people haggle to much, yet the quality doesn't merit the price. Pretty sure we all walked into a little situation where price is not even a conversation. Its known, you slip it on the donation plate and get your blessing. Yet, for me atleast my itch can't be scratched here anymore, so size the quality up and send out offers. Think financially we are set here, but the thought for paying for subpar talent is beneath me atleast. Think about it when does it end? Let's say you have a lassy who you break off the same breadcrumbs for years. She's does her thing. A little caveat here, we know bozos is going to pay whatever the sewer rats quote which why we seen their quotes increase. They had bits of cheese, but now they want the breadcrumbs. There some hidden board out there the ladies visit, so they either get the info of rates there or they see on ads.

If sewer rats are getting breadcrumbs, then ofcourse she wants a slice now. Which is cool. Then guess what the sewer rats wants a slice now, so guess what. She going to want two. On and on. So gets to the point where the quality don't match the quote. So we believe they are not worth what they are quoting, at the same time they think we are clutching our bread, where we really trying to bring their head from the clouds. I can go other states and get a phenomenal cleansing for under a buck. Yet same can be said over a buck when I was up north. It was worth it.

Yet here atleast the "higher-end" ladies seem to be on the spectrum for being cordial and safe environment, which is comfortable, yet same time not exciting.

Yet these streets calling me I yearn for the thrill LOL.

PervNerd48
03-07-22, 15:13
*stands on soapbox*.

I personally don't think the situation is going to improve until we, as johns / clients / hobbyists, start telling politicians to back off on stupid ideas for trying to deal with legitimate sex trafficking.

Shutting down Craigslist and Backpage and the review sites did nothing to fight traffickers. And while I'm not trying to trivialize the real harm done, the truth is that most reported estimates of sex trafficking are wildly overestimated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/11/are-people-day-trafficked-right-front-our-eyes-nope/

https://whyy.org/segments/fosta-sesta-was-supposed-to-thwart-sex-trafficking-instead-its-sparked-a-movement/

SESTA / FOSTA made hobbying more dangerous for both johns and sex workers.

We need to move sex work from the underground status it's in now to something more legitimate, where we can talk openly about safe situations for both johns and sex workers. It's ridiculous that it's hard to identify dangerous providers, just as it's ridiculous for sex workers to not be able to identify dangerous men who abuse the service they provide.

Most of us just want to be able to see a provider who's not going to rob us, not going to pass on a dangerous STD, and is going to be clear-headed enough to have a fun time with at a price agreed to by both parties. We do this in every other economic transaction we conduct in our lives. Why is sex work so hard to do this with? The puritanical approach isn't working and never did.

Sex work is real work. The sex economy is a real economy. Sex work needs to be legitimized to make it safer and more fun for all.

DevilsAdvoc8
03-07-22, 16:24
*stands on soapbox*.

I personally don't think the situation is going to improve until we, as johns / clients / hobbyists, start telling politicians to back off on stupid ideas for trying to deal with legitimate sex trafficking.

Shutting down Craigslist and Backpage and the review sites did nothing to fight traffickers. And while I'm not trying to trivialize the real harm done, the truth is that most reported estimates of sex trafficking are wildly overestimated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/11/are-people-day-trafficked-right-front-our-eyes-nope/

https://whyy.org/segments/fosta-sesta-was-supposed-to-thwart-sex-trafficking-instead-its-sparked-a-movement/

SESTA / FOSTA made hobbying more dangerous for both johns and sex workers.

We need to move sex work from the underground status it's in now to something more legitimate, where we can talk openly about safe situations for both johns and sex workers. It's ridiculous that it's hard to identify dangerous providers, just as it's ridiculous for sex workers to not be able to identify dangerous men who abuse the service they provide..Sure, I would vote for that and most others would too. Neither party actually supports this. Democrats want the Scandinavian model (girls are victims and Johns are abusers) and Republicans think it is unbiblical or whatever. That said, the Jax scene is worse than a number of either Republican areas (such as Dallas) or liberal areas (the NYC / NJ areas comes to mind). The Dallas area is particularly interesting since hobbying is now a felony in TX.

Someone needs to open an agency here or something. Until someone gets the talent and makes it available we're going to keep staying in this mess.

JustinCider904
03-07-22, 17:33
*stands on soapbox*.

I personally don't think the situation is going to improve until we, as johns / clients / hobbyists, start telling politicians to back off on stupid ideas for trying to deal with legitimate sex trafficking.

Shutting down Craigslist and Backpage and the review sites did nothing to fight traffickers. And while I'm not trying to trivialize the real harm done, the truth is that most reported estimates of sex trafficking are wildly overestimated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/11/are-people-day-trafficked-right-front-our-eyes-nope/

https://whyy.org/segments/fosta-sesta-was-supposed-to-thwart-sex-trafficking-instead-its-sparked-a-movement/

SESTA / FOSTA made hobbying more dangerous for both johns and sex workers.

We need to move sex work from the underground status it's in now to something more legitimate, where we can talk openly about safe situations for both johns and sex workers. It's ridiculous that it's hard to identify dangerous providers, just as it's ridiculous for sex workers to not be able to identify dangerous men who abuse the service they provide.

Most of us just want to be able to see a provider who's not going to rob us, not going to pass on a dangerous STD, and is going to be clear-headed enough to have a fun time with at a price agreed to by both parties. We do this in every other economic transaction we conduct in our lives. Why is sex work so hard to do this with? The puritanical approach isn't working and never did.

Sex work is real work. The sex economy is a real economy. Sex work needs to be legitimized to make it safer and more fun for all.I totally agree with you. Making sex work legal is safer for everyone, all peer reviewed data shows this. Other than Farming, there is no older profession, so it is really difficult to understand the constant resistance to it. The biggest issue is the majority of female voters will not go for it, and almost no sober married male will opening side with this position. Thus the conundrum, as these are two of the largest voting demographics.

Member #6355
03-08-22, 07:35
*stands on soapbox*.

I personally don't think the situation is going to improve until we, as johns / clients / hobbyists, start telling politicians to back off on stupid ideas for trying to deal with legitimate sex trafficking.

Shutting down Craigslist and Backpage and the review sites did nothing to fight traffickers. And while I'm not trying to trivialize the real harm done, the truth is that most reported estimates of sex trafficking are wildly overestimated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/11/are-people-day-trafficked-right-front-our-eyes-nope/

https://whyy.org/segments/fosta-sesta-was-supposed-to-thwart-sex-trafficking-instead-its-sparked-a-movement/

SESTA / FOSTA made hobbying more dangerous for both johns and sex workers.

We need to move sex work from the underground status it's in now to something more legitimate, where we can talk openly about safe situations for both johns and sex workers. It's ridiculous that it's hard to identify dangerous providers, just as it's ridiculous for sex workers to not be able to identify dangerous men who abuse the service they provide.

Most of us just want to be able to see a provider who's not going to rob us, not going to pass on a dangerous STD, and is going to be clear-headed enough to have a fun time with at a price agreed to by both parties. We do this in every other economic transaction we conduct in our lives. Why is sex work so hard to do this with? The puritanical approach isn't working and never did.

Sex work is real work. The sex economy is a real economy. Sex work needs to be legitimized to make it safer and more fun for all.I completely agree with all of this. However, in the legal brothels in Nevada, at least, condoms are required for everything, including BJs, which would be a deal-breaker for me. One of the girls from one of these establishments, BTW, is Alice Little, who has some free YouTube videos and maintains a pretty amusing blog.

Ethan X
03-09-22, 01:53
Yeah, you can officially chalk this one up as a waste. You can tell this broad is one of those white chicks who spent way too much time around trash, and thinks that just because she has friends that she can play that role too. You all know the type I'm talking about.

Either way, she's the only white stripper in Cocktails I've seen thus far. I'm not going to bother with this chick. If any of you decide to try, I won't stop you.

I'm done for the night. Going to maybe go for a drunken walk now.

E. X.

MouthHunter
03-09-22, 13:44
Dude you do understand those girls are there to work. Which means they need money. You go in there saying that you're not going to spend any. WTF do you expect them to act like? They just want to entertain you for free? Go to a regular bar and see how that goes for you.

OneForTheGlory
03-09-22, 15:17
Dude you do understand those girls are there to work. Which means they need money. You go in there saying that you're not going to spend any. WTF do you expect them to act like? They just want to entertain you for free? Go to a regular bar and see how that goes for you.If your looking for a girl to start up a conversation with you for free you best off going to a regular bar. Now a days in strip clubs you got to tip them to approach you on anything. You might on rare occasions have a girl approach you and ask you about your day but it's super rare. If you just sit in the corner the women are just going to think your a weirdo or a creep. And if your looking for white girls the best club on the west side is solid gold.

Ethan X
03-09-22, 20:51
Dude you do understand those girls are there to work. Which means they need money. You go in there saying that you're not going to spend any. WTF do you expect them to act like? They just want to entertain you for free? Go to a regular bar and see how that goes for you.Where. Exactly did I say I was coming in here not looking to spend money? I know I was drunk, but I've never once uttered those words. So like before, maybe you also have me confused with someone else, because I ever once said that. The most I said was that I was going to go find a dark corner so I don't get harassed for money. Yeah, because I literally JUST walked in. Nobody likes being jumped at the door.

If you and the other guy aren't going to actually read what I said, ask questions. Don't make things up that I never said.

Ethan X
03-09-22, 20:55
I said came in and wasn't interested in spending any money. But I actually was throwing money. It was the white girl that made me stop.

So yeah, you're right, I actually did say that. But if anybody read anything, they'd see I went against that frame of mind rather quickly from me saying I was drunk.

OnTime877
03-09-22, 23:00
Actually no, I haven't been complaining about Cocktails. Even when I was here back in 2014-2015, I still wasn't complaining. I've been reporting what I've been seeing. That's all. Maybe you have me confused with someone else.

Also, it actually is the only club I can get to without a car. The dumbest thing a human can do, in a city THIS big, with a bus system THIS bad that actually stops running 30 minutes after midnight, would be to take either a bus, or an expensive ass uber to one of these clubs. Talk about counterproductive. The money you spend in the club is bad enough, but to add on the cost of an uber back and forth would be insane.

I haven't had a bad time in Cocktails yet. I mean, it hasn't been good yet either, but it hasn't been anything regrettable as of yet. Truth be told I can't stand the remodeled club or the fact that they turned it into a hood spot, but I'm willing to let this play itself out to see what happens. I just need someone to cut the tongue out of the mouth of the clown with the mic who won't shut the fuck up, and get a DJ who actually knows what music is and I'll be fine.Continue your negative reviews, and we will all continue to do what we have always done, stay away from that club. Cheers.

Ethan X
03-09-22, 23:57
Continue your negative reviews, and we will all continue to do what we have always done, stay away from that club. Cheers.It's called reporting. Whether negative or positive, that's what this forum is for. I am providing info and Intel for everybody like we are all supposed to be doing. You can continue skipping Cocktails that's your choice. It's a free country. Doesn't matter. I'm not going to stop reporting because one person doesn't want to see it.

That would be like one person complaining about someone posting about repeat sessions with a SW. Do you expect the person reporting to stay away from the chick he keeps seeing because one person has issues with the intel?

And furthermore, like I said, if you and the other guys who are literally cherry picking a freaking part of one sentence in order to make points that make no sense themselves have such a huge issue with me posting, how about you just ignore everything with my name attached and focus on what everybody else is posting. Because I'm damn sure not going to stop giving everybody a heads up on what I'm seeing.

Problem solved.

E. X.

MouthHunter
03-10-22, 10:39
Where. Exactly did I say I was coming in here not looking to spend money? I know I was drunk, but I've never once uttered those words. So like before, maybe you also have me confused with someone else, because I ever once said that. The most I said was that I was going to go find a dark corner so I don't get harassed for money. Yeah, because I literally JUST walked in. Nobody likes being jumped at the door.

If you and the other guy aren't going to actually read what I said, ask questions. Don't make things up that I never said.Not looking to spend any money.

OnTime877
03-10-22, 17:57
It's called reporting. Whether negative or positive, that's what this forum is for. I am providing info and Intel for everybody like we are all supposed to be doing. You can continue skipping Cocktails that's your choice. It's a free country. Doesn't matter. I'm not going to stop reporting because one person doesn't want to see it.I just recommended that, rather than coming here complaining about the same club all the time, a club no one cares about, that you invest in a bus pass or an Uber so you can go across the river to some better clubs. You didn't like those suggestions because the buses stop running at midnight and you feel Uber is too expensive, so just keep doing what you are doing.

BlackLance40
03-11-22, 12:06
It's called reporting. Whether negative or positive, that's what this forum is for. I am providing info and Intel for everybody like we are all supposed to be doing. You can continue skipping Cocktails that's your choice. It's a free country. Doesn't matter. I'm not going to stop reporting because one person doesn't want to see it.

That would be like one person complaining about someone posting about repeat sessions with a SW. Do you expect the person reporting to stay away from the chick he keeps seeing because one person has issues with the intel?

And furthermore, like I said, if you and the other guys who are literally cherry picking a freaking part of one sentence in order to make points that make no sense themselves have such a huge issue with me posting, how about you just ignore everything with my name attached and focus on what everybody else is posting. Because I'm damn sure not going to stop giving everybody a heads up on what I'm seeing..Nothing really wrong with Cocktails. I've had fun during the day. I've had fun there at night.

Aside from liquor being a little pricey, it's fine. Had some nice dances from ladies there.

Ethan X
03-11-22, 12:49
I just recommended that, rather than coming here complaining about the same club all the time, a club no one cares about, that you invest in a bus pass or an Uber so you can go across the river to some better clubs. You didn't like those suggestions because the buses stop running at midnight and you feel Uber is too expensive, so just keep doing what you are doing.I'm doing the same thing that literally all of you on here do. We report our findings and experiences. Period. You guys complain all the time and still go back to the same areas you complain about and you report back to everybody. Nobody bats an eye because that's what we're supposed to be doing on here. Your argument is that you just don't care about the club I'm reporting about. Literally nobody is asking you to even acknowledge anything I say. Because by your logic, you should be complaining on everybody's posts from every club they go to numerous times. Because truth be told, YOU are the one complaining here. Again, I'm reporting. If that's a problem for you or anybody else, ignore my posts. I can't believe that simple solution is so very hard for you guys to process.

OnTime877
03-13-22, 15:48
I'm doing the same thing that literally all of you on here do. We report our findings and experiences. Period. You guys complain all the time and still go back to the same areas you complain about and you report back to everybody. Nobody bats an eye because that's what we're supposed to be doing on here. Your argument is that you just don't care about the club I'm reporting about. Literally nobody is asking you to even acknowledge anything I say. Because by your logic, you should be complaining on everybody's posts from every club they go to numerous times. Because truth be told, YOU are the one complaining here. Again, I'm reporting. If that's a problem for you or anybody else, ignore my posts. I can't believe that simple solution is so very hard for you guys to process.But you are a one trick pony. All you do is whine about the same club day after day, and for years. It's ironic that you talk about "logic" when the most basic, 2nd grader level logic says to find somewhere else to go rather than piss and moan for eight years, wasting bandwidth here going on about a club no one cares about. But oh I forgot, you can't afford a car or an Uber or even a bus pass, so looks like you are stuck with Cocktails. Carry on, and by all means be sure to come here and cry about it every day. Waa waa waaa.

OnTime over and out.

TomCat4871
03-19-22, 14:19
Since this is the debate portion of the board. I posted in the DND section about my virginal first experience of getting hustled by Melissa Sue in Argyle. (the standard 'guy walks in the room after she has your money and tells you to leave' hustle). I think over and over in my head how to handle those situations. Pretty much they just want your money and you just want the doorway cleared for you to walk out and you are out 60-120 (nobody is REALLY paying more than this right?) . I think about the various ways to protect myself including the 'gun' option. But as I think through each possible scenario, this can only be used as the last resort to get out without harm, not really to escalate things and get out with your money. This is a chess game and you are in check. You can't actually shoot and have it pass a legal self defense litmus test. Worse case scenario, the D. A. Shows that YOU were there in the commission of the crime of prostitution and thus its turned into a murder charge against YOU. I know about putting the money on the counter and telling the girls not to touch it. But 99% of the time they grabbed it, counted it, and everything went fine. (even though a few services were less than expected, but no actual hustle). What do you guys do? Just stick to your rules and if the insist on grabbing and counting then you walk out? What if you count the bills in front of them, then put it by the tv? I'm trying to find alternatives / suggestions. Also, have you guys noted that this really happens during late nights only ? So would daytime mongering be better ? I usually day monger when possible.

MekaleKahi
03-19-22, 14:50
My advice for self defense without a weapon: Throat punch. Hit them right in the trachea and they're on the ground grasping for air while you make an escape. If you really want to seal the deal kick them in the balls immediately after.

BudWhite
03-19-22, 15:20
Sometimes I see the posts where people say I have a carry permit so I'm safe in these situations.

That's the biggest mistake you'll ever make in your life is drawing a firearm on someone in a situation like this. Your life will change forever instantly. The story becomes news. Family, friends and employers learn about it and the only explanation you have is some guy high as a kite guy verbally shook you down for money in a hotel room where you were seeking play for pay.

This exact scenario isn't new. I got hit with it once a while ago. I walked out and let them have their 5 minutes of glory. Then I sent a text to the girl who orchestrated it and said "tell your boyfriend to bring my money into the parking lot right now or I'm camping out here all night and raining on the next scam you try to stage on some poor fool. Next thing I know the piece of shit that thought he had the best of me came out handed me my money and I went on my way.

YourLying3
03-26-22, 08:50
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Powerhouse100
04-21-22, 09:41
Mr. ShortlinerRico, you are the quintessential white knight! Call me trash because I do qv's sometimes, but it looks like your girl is trailer trash with those cheese thighs! Marry the damn girl already and keep your recommendations to yourself if that's what you're going to offer us! Geez!

NeckAuthority
04-22-22, 23:40
Since this is the debate portion of the board. I posted in the DND section about my virginal first experience of getting hustled by Melissa Sue in Argyle. (the standard 'guy walks in the room after she has your money and tells you to leave' hustle). I think over and over in my head how to handle those situations. Pretty much they just want your money and you just want the doorway cleared for you to walk out and you are out 60-120 (nobody is REALLY paying more than this right?) . I think about the various ways to protect myself including the 'gun' option. But as I think through each possible scenario, this can only be used as the last resort to get out without harm, not really to escalate things and get out with your money. This is a chess game and you are in check. You can't actually shoot and have it pass a legal self defense litmus test. Worse case scenario, the D. A. Shows that YOU were there in the commission of the crime of prostitution and thus its turned into a murder charge against YOU. I know about putting the money on the counter and telling the girls not to touch it. But 99% of the time they grabbed it, counted it, and everything went fine. (even though a few services were less than expected, but no actual hustle). What do you guys do? Just stick to your rules and if the insist on grabbing and counting then you walk out? What if you count the bills in front of them, then put it by the tv? I'm trying to find alternatives / suggestions. Also, have you guys noted that this really happens during late nights only ? So would daytime mongering be better ? I usually day monger when possible.My two cents. I personally carry everywhere I go. I have no intention on using it ever crept at the range, but its habbit. In no circumstances will a SW / provider know I'm carrying, or the db get the drop and take it like that other dude on the board LOL. I been "hustled", robbed, mugged at gunpoint with multiple guns on me. Even a knife pulled. Never pulled it, since I know that little birdie brings 10 x more trouble. Leave the money, don't be petty. If things are getting sketchy leave. If the girl is unruly leave. If when you enter, it seems she's stalling leave. If you get into a fight me personally I go for body blows. 3 times I dealt with db' I got lucky and I would assume I tagged the liver. Since they went down instantly. It's hard to knock out a crackhead believe me LOL. Need a hammer or something. Always check the bathroom closet under bed. If she acting suspect leave.

Don't be stupid and think buying a little hammer will help you navigate the hobby. Get a permit for you, everyone at the age (with exceptions) of 20 should be licensed. In my opinion. If you don't feel safe in a particular location, and think you might need a little tool than leave.

Sure it's not "responsible " to carry everywhere I go, but that's my vice I guess you can say LOL. (With the exception if I know I be drinking, to many of my peers jamed up for just that). I can't even say bring a blade. Learn to take hits, if you soft this ain't for you unless you really getting the highly reported, reviewed ladies. Yet sometimes they turn sour and may set you up as well. All in all to say. Weigh your options and don't be stupid. Stay in your lane, the moment you crossover, I,lt can all end.

Correction I did pull it on one dude nightwalker who was playing dress up. Thought was a chick, but after he talked, had to tell him exit. Then he get crazy. In a real annoying way. Tbh that's why I did what I did, them type of dudes annoy the fudge out of me, like I don't care what you do, but that ain't for me so be good with that, rather than drag it on. (play on words there LOL).

MRBrooks1133
04-23-22, 00:02
My two cents. I personally carry everywhere I go. I have no intention on using it ever crept at the range, but its habbit. In no circumstances will a SW / provider know I'm carrying, or the db get the drop and take it like that other dude on the board LOL. I been "hustled", robbed, mugged at gunpoint with multiple guns on me. Even a knife pulled. Never pulled it, since I know that little birdie brings 10 x more trouble. Leave the money, don't be petty. If things are getting sketchy leave. If the girl is unruly leave. If when you enter, it seems she's stalling leave. If you get into a fight me personally I go for body blows. 3 times I dealt with db' I got lucky and I would assume I tagged the liver. Since they went down instantly. It's hard to knock out a crackhead believe me LOL. Need a hammer or something. Always check the bathroom closet under bed. If she acting suspect leave.

Don't be stupid and think buying a little hammer will help you navigate the hobby. Get a permit for you, everyone at the age (with exceptions) of 20 should be licensed. In my opinion. If you don't feel safe in a particular location, and think you might need a little tool than leave.

Sure it's not "responsible " to carry everywhere I go, but that's my vice I guess you can say LOL. (With the exception if I know I be drinking, to many of my peers jamed up for just that). I can't even say bring a blade. Learn to take hits, if you soft this ain't for you unless you really getting the highly reported, reviewed ladies. Yet sometimes they turn sour and may set you up as well. All in all to say. Weigh your options and don't be stupid. Stay in your lane, the moment you crossover, I,lt can all end.

Correction I did pull it on one dude nightwalker who was playing dress up. Thought was a chick, but after he talked, had to tell him exit. Then he get crazy. In a real annoying way. Tbh that's why I did what I did, them type of dudes annoy the fudge out of me, like I don't care what you do, but that ain't for me so be good with that, rather than drag it on. (play on words there LOL).There's several girls who definitely deserve to get shot. This is why the game is illegal. These crackheads / dopeboys / pimps / thug wannabes who are always trying to take advantage of an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass. I think we should carry a body cam for our protection. Atleast it shows they were trying to take advantage of us at gun point if we ever had to use self defense as a last resort. I'd rather take a prostitution conviction then be charge for pre meditated murder. At least it shows they attempted to kill me if I had to use a gun on them. After all, we're just there to get laid. That's it. Nothing else to it. These girls / pimps are just there to rob us.

PlayTiem
04-23-22, 06:57
There's several girls who definitely deserve to get shot. This is why the game is illegal. These crackheads / dopeboys / pimps / thug wannabes who are always trying to take advantage of an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass. I think we should carry a body cam for our protection. Atleast it shows they were trying to take advantage of us at gun point if we ever had to use self defense as a last resort. I'd rather take a prostitution conviction then be charge for pre meditated murder. At least it shows they attempted to kill me if I had to use a gun on them. After all, we're just there to get laid. That's it. Nothing else to it. These girls / pimps are just there to rob us.What the fuck is wrong with you? You are fine with wanting to engage in illegal activity, but the other side is immoral because what now?

"an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass" Go to a bar. Don't shoot someone.

Piece of shit.

ClitEastwoodJx
04-23-22, 08:51
I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/karmen-as-the-southside-sensa/020229639684.OMG! She's back to that shit again? I'm so sorry that happened to you, and I'm glad you're okay! Wow!

MRBrooks1133
04-23-22, 09:12
I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/karmen-as-the-southside-sensa/020229639684.Hey blacklighting,

Look at my previous post about this girl from back in Feb. Now you know what I mean when I say avoid this girl! It's amazing how all these other guys defending her when I complained about her for what she tried to do to me. Fucking white knight cucks. Yeah, avoid youngerman circle, which is where I found her at the time, but I know she's at Baymeadows. Avoid that area too. In fact, there was shooting out there a couple nights go in that area. It's ironic how there happens to be shady shit that goes on out there but you a sheriff's office on the right side a few blocks down passed the Sonesta suites if I'm pronouncing that right.

Oshmalee
04-23-22, 09:38
Glad you're okay. She won't be suckering anymore mongers from STG. Sent link to boss man.


I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/karmen-as-the-southside-sensa/020229639684.

BudWhite
04-23-22, 11:17
I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/karmen-as-the-southside-sensa/020229639684.The firearm law knowledge on this forum is frightening.

Low Baller
04-23-22, 11:45
I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/karmen-as-the-southside-sensa/020229639684.BL,

First I am glad you got out safe and second safe without getting robbed. At least you did not have to run naked to your car like I did.

Mongers, this is scary in more than the fact some providers are trying to rob us. What is scary is that these girls have been in Jax a long time and even have good reviews here. So they must be normal much of the time, but when desperate they decide to rob us. And, Mongers do not blame stg, this provider has been on Tryst and asking high prices!

Three lessons from all of this: First, even a positive rated long term provider may rob or even kill us. Second Mongers, do not ever trust a provider. You are only $ to her no matter how she makes you feel like a bf. Third, the girls make you feel special, but we are just $ to them so stop paying them insane rates, they are not our girl friends!

BL, again glad you are ok, you did every thing right the reviews have been positive and yet you were cautious and you baked out when you had to.

SuperXY
04-23-22, 13:33
The firearm law knowledge on this forum is frightening.My thought as well. I'm CC, and choose never carry to a meet up. It's not worth working yourself up to be put in a slammer over these model citizens.

Zinzrah
04-23-22, 13:54
The firearm law knowledge on this forum is frightening.Dude when 3 guys come after me I'm pulling my piece too. You're way overthinking this. I always wanted to see that girl too but not anymore. As long as money wasn't exchanged for sexual services he's in the clear. He committed no crime and is perfectly legal to defend himself. Now if after then the waters get murky but I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep dropping 3 DBs that brought a knife to a gun fight.

MRBrooks1133
04-23-22, 14:21
What the fuck is wrong with you? You are fine with wanting to engage in illegal activity, but the other side is immoral because what now?

"an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass" Go to a bar. Don't shoot someone.

Piece of shit.Oh so your going to justify every pimp that tries to rob someone for playing by the rules. Oh let me guess, in the black Market business there is no rules right? Bullshit! Smart successful individuals who have money don't fool around the ghettos. But believe it or not, you can find top notch call girls / #myfans webcam girls that will try to take advantage of you as well. Its not just the ghetto / trailer park. I rest assure you this, when prostitution becomes legalized and monitored by the state / government, the types of girls will die off. Natural selection will takes its place.

Grune
04-23-22, 16:21
I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/karmen-as-the-southside-sensa/020229639684.A few weeks back she was posting that she was homeless and living out of a bus station and needed money for a room. That means she's down bad and desperate. I make it a point to avoid the desperate. Nothing to lose.

DevilsAdvoc8
04-23-22, 18:17
Dude when 3 guys come after me I'm pulling my piece too. You're way overthinking this. I always wanted to see that girl too but not anymore. As long as money wasn't exchanged for sexual services he's in the clear. He committed no crime and is perfectly legal to defend himself. Now if after then the waters get murky but I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep dropping 3 DBs that brought a knife to a gun fight.I'm also CCW. I remember this from my course. At that point he was in an armed robbery situation where using your weapon is now legal. I also don't know why anyone is discouraging self-defense in this scenario. Yes, the law is never 100% but neither is trusting DBs not to kill you after you hand over the money anyway. Obviously, don't pull the trigger unless you have to, but not sure why leaving yourself to the mercy of thugs is somehow the right move.

At any rate, thanks to the guy that let us know. This is the worst thing that can happen in this game. Stay safe everyone. Thanks Oshmalee for sending the ban to STG.

MRBrooks1133
04-23-22, 22:28
What the fuck is wrong with you? You are fine with wanting to engage in illegal activity, but the other side is immoral because what now?

"an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass" Go to a bar. Don't shoot someone.

Piece of shit.Your going go to call me piece of shit for having the balls to defend myself. That's why guys like me who fought for this country, is the reason why little pussy fucks like you who didn't get laid high school, who have never lived up to a standard in life, who always cried for not getting a trophy for finishing last, but still got acknowledged for trying, is the reason why you grew up to be *****! Your a crybaby little simp bastard who does what your femboy pimp tells you what to do. So you say " how dare you shoot at anyone, you'll got to jail". "That's not how you treat a provider and her pimp". So I guess I'm suppose to stand there and let them rob me and be on my way right? That's just how it goes right? That's just the nature of the game right? And of course your going to say "well, you who had no business being there in the first place". Your right.

I had no business being in Afghanistan, but I was there. That doesn't mean you get to dictate my fate. There is people that have worked really hard and earned their right to exist on this planet. I can make a pretty good guess that 90% of these providers as well as their degenerate pimps haven't earned nothing in this lifetime. And if anything, they should all be castrated. Especially the ones who are going out their way take advantage of good people. This is why we can't have good things in this country.

Bobb Sledd
04-24-22, 06:03
I'm also CCW. I remember this from my course. At that point he was in an armed robbery situation where using your weapon is now legal. I also don't know why anyone is discouraging self-defense in this scenario. Yes, the law is never 100% but neither is trusting DBs not to kill you after you hand over the money anyway. Obviously, don't pull the trigger unless you have to, but not sure why leaving yourself to the mercy of thugs is somehow the right move.

At any rate, thanks to the guy that let us know. This is the worst thing that can happen in this game. Stay safe everyone. Thanks Oshmalee for sending the ban to STG.Maybe a discussion best had in the Woodshed, but a quick thought. Pulling a CC and not pulling the trigger is seen by many prosecutors as having NOT been a life-or-death situation. If you pull it, shoot! And shoot to kill, leaving only one side of the story to be told. If you're not ready for that you probably shouldn't be carrying. Safe Mongering!! (Not aimed at you DevilsAdvoc8, just posted on your comment.)

BudWhite
04-24-22, 09:24
Maybe a discussion best had in the Woodshed, but a quick thought. Pulling a CC and not pulling the trigger is seen by many prosecutors as having NOT been a life-or-death situation. If you pull it, shoot! And shoot to kill, leaving only one side of the story to be told. If you're not ready for that you probably shouldn't be carrying. Safe Mongering!! (Not aimed at you DevilsAdvoc8, just posted on your comment.)This is 100% correct.

A CC permit is a license to carry concealed. Not a license to flash your brand new toy. Knives while considered deadly weapons are also something you can walk away from unless you're cornered with no other means of escape.

This also isn't an armed robbery. He was in their room. They'll claim self defense. He's lucky they didn't shoot him for waiving a firearm around like a toy.

Low Baller
04-24-22, 11:18
Maybe a discussion best had in the Woodshed, but a quick thought. Pulling a CC and not pulling the trigger is seen by many prosecutors as having NOT been a life-or-death situation. If you pull it, shoot! And shoot to kill, leaving only one side of the story to be told. If you're not ready for that you probably shouldn't be carrying. Safe Mongering!! (Not aimed at you DevilsAdvoc8, just posted on your comment.)Karmen must be avoided always, seeing her you may be robbed, you may get beaten, you may get killed, you may get ghosted, or you may see her. There are a number of possibilities and all of them are real. She has poor skills. I know from experience, I reviewed Karen negatively last year, so she is not worth taking a chance on getting robbed over. Bottom line, Karmen should be totally avoided.

About B L's actions, I think he did everything correct, unless he wanted to pull something like I did, running buck naked to my car. He was confronted and pulled his gun to stop thing at least temporary, then he backed out, that is retreated, so that he could avoid worse consequences. Guys full of testosterone and law pundits may have done something more aggressive but I believe B L was very smart and did perfect. Yep, I wish he had shot all of the bums and then yelled Make My Day, but that was not realistic. Black Lighting really handled a bad situation wisely and also showed the risks we mongers are taking!

I am not with law enforcement, so I do not know the rules or law, but I disagree that if one pulls a gun then one should pull the trigger. There is the cliche of do not pull a gun unless you are willing to use it. Yes I agree, but the converse of that is not valid, meaning if you pull a gun you need to shoot the bum. Pull a gun and do what is needed in the situation would be my rule, and if one can avoid deadly force then seek that. But, I agree that is one is going to shoot an attacker then shoot to kill. I believe that statement is correct for two reasons. First, it keeps the bum from making a lie that you threatened him first, pulled a gun while he was just casually minding his own business. Second, he was attacking you so the best way to stop that is to put a bullet through his head. Wounded DBs can still kill you. As a side note, if a monger has to shoot a DB while visiting a provider, then assume if the DB lives, he will lie and say you started it all and tried to rape his gf. The provider will also lie, she will not be truthful and say she tried to set you up to get robbed! Would Karmen admit to a felony that resulted in her DB getting killed? Heck no, that would be admitting to felony murder and life without parole. So the provider will lie, and you need to tell the truth. You were there to see a provider, which is Not a felony and otherwise say only you were attacked and feared for your life, but you cannot say more without a lawyer you are too shaken up to say more and just repeat the same. Greg McMichael and Dunn both had big mouths talking to cops instead of shutting up and waiting until a lawyer was appointed. They thought they could talk their way out and all got life. Yep they were bad guys and you are a good guy, but do not say anything without a lawyer because the provider is guaranteed to lie. P.S. Your phone is proof you were invited into the room, you will need to give that to your lawyer. What a mess one gets from shooting to save one's own life! Black Lightening, you were so darn smart to back away and avoid such a mess!!

Re Karmen, mongers need to avoid her, she is not worth any of the possibilities.

MekaleKahi
04-24-22, 15:15
About B L's actions, I think he did everything correctThe only thing I would have done differently is said "god damn I didn't know four bitches were sucking my cock today" and dropped my fucken pants for them.

LovesAFreak
04-24-22, 17:18
I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/karmen-as-the-southside-sensa/020229639684.Glad you made it out with incident. I recently started carrying myself and pray I'm never put into a situation like this. This is a dangerous hobby we all know things can turn at any given time. Cannot trust these women or db's thinking they will let you go after the robbery. Stay safe gents.

JustinCider904
04-25-22, 16:18
Karmen must be avoided always, seeing her you may be robbed, you may get beaten, you may get killed, you may get ghosted, or you may see her. There are a number of possibilities and all of them are real. She has poor skills. I know from experience, I reviewed Karen negatively last year, so she is not worth taking a chance on getting robbed over. Bottom line, Karmen should be totally avoided.

About B L's actions, I think he did everything correct, unless he wanted to pull something like I did, running buck naked to my car. He was confronted and pulled his gun to stop thing at least temporary, then he backed out, that is retreated, so that he could avoid worse consequences. Guys full of testosterone and law pundits may have done something more aggressive but I believe B L was very smart and did perfect. Yep, I wish he had shot all of the bums and then yelled Make My Day, but that was not realistic. Black Lighting really handled a bad situation wisely and also showed the risks we mongers are taking!

I am not with law enforcement, so I do not know the rules or law, but I disagree that if one pulls a gun then one should pull the trigger. There is the cliche of do not pull a gun unless you are willing to use it. Yes I agree, but the converse of that is not valid, meaning if you pull a gun you need to shoot the bum. Pull a gun and do what is needed in the situation would be my rule, and if one can avoid deadly force then seek that. But, I agree that is one is going to shoot an attacker then shoot to kill. I believe that statement is correct for two reasons. First, it keeps the bum from making a lie that you threatened him first, pulled a gun while he was just casually minding his own business. Second, he was attacking you so the best way to stop that is to put a bullet through his head. Wounded DBs can still kill you. As a side note, if a monger has to shoot a DB while visiting a provider, then assume if the DB lives, he will lie and say you started it all and tried to rape his gf. The provider will also lie, she will not be truthful and say she tried to set you up to get robbed! Would Karmen admit to a felony that resulted in her DB getting killed? Heck no, that would be admitting to felony murder and life without parole. So the provider will lie, and you need to tell the truth. You were there to see a provider, which is Not a felony and otherwise say only you were attacked and feared for your life, but you cannot say more without a lawyer you are too shaken up to say more and just repeat the same. Greg McMichael and Dunn both had big mouths talking to cops instead of shutting up and waiting until a lawyer was appointed. They thought they could talk their way out and all got life. Yep they were bad guys and you are a good guy, but do not say anything without a lawyer because the provider is guaranteed to lie. P.S. Your phone is proof you were invited into the room, you will need to give that to your lawyer. What a mess one gets from shooting to save one's own life! Black Lightening, you were so darn smart to back away and avoid such a mess!!

Re Karmen, mongers need to avoid her, she is not worth any of the possibilities.I mostly agree with this position. BL absolutely did the right thing, by backing out without incident. It is generally in the best interest of the shooter to make sure the victim is dead if you have to shoot. This is what law enforcement is taught regardless of what they say publicly, it is also why they don't seek medical assistance in most matters. Dead men don't talk is the mantra they are told over and over. Leaving only the shooters story with no counter-argument. Personally I have mixed feelings on this that go way deeper than this post, but it has been an effective defense for murder for decades.

With that said. Unless you report the incident and invoke Marsy's law, carrying a firearm with intent to commit a crime (even if the firearm was never intended to be used for said crime) is a felony. Mongering is a crime, and carrying a firearm with intent to monger is a felony, and one that can not only land you in prison, but can prevent you from ever handling a firearm again. Like most laws, this tends to be enforced arbitrarily. Depending on who you know and what you look like heavily applies to whether they would consider even charging you. McMichael is a good example of that. It is true he talked to much and it was used against him, but lets be real. He was the bad guy not a victim of his lack of silence. He was someone who acted how he has likely acted most of his life as a law enforcement officer, just he didn't have the immunity protection his badge supplied him with. He did however know people who tried their hardest to protect him, but there were limits of the protection a civilian can receive.

BigEnk61
04-25-22, 16:32
To bad about Karmen and the latest bad reviews on JAX Escorts thread. Got her kicked off STG as a result. I think its unfair that these providers have no recourse to dispute claims made against them. I know that she has a past and that can't be be helped. I know personally and from other guys that she's a trusted go too for fun and for the most part consistent.

She made an account under sexyscare and respectfully tried to tell her side of the story, I know this because she sent me a screen shot of it before up loading it. It never was posted by the moderator, don't know why but probably because it was disputing claims made by the original monger who posted the bad review. She showed me screenshots of text messages from the that day and let me tell you things are not what they seem.

Anyone who is interested in knowing the other side of this story can PM me and I'd be glad to share what I know first hand.

The pic was from yesterday, she had a bad day after the bad review and being kicked off STG so I payed her a visit. She did not disappoint.

JustinCider904
04-25-22, 16:37
I'm also CCW. I remember this from my course. At that point he was in an armed robbery situation where using your weapon is now legal. I also don't know why anyone is discouraging self-defense in this scenario. Yes, the law is never 100% but neither is trusting DBs not to kill you after you hand over the money anyway. Obviously, don't pull the trigger unless you have to, but not sure why leaving yourself to the mercy of thugs is somehow the right move.

At any rate, thanks to the guy that let us know. This is the worst thing that can happen in this game. Stay safe everyone. Thanks Oshmalee for sending the ban to STG.That is absolutely correct. They exited with weapons and were the aggressors. Someone else did bring up money not being exchanged leaves him in the clear for other scenarios, but this is not exactly true. I already posted on this, but you do not have to of committed, or be in the act of committing a crime for the law to work against you here. You only have to have INTENT to commit a crime, which like it or not we all do when arriving at a providers location. Under most circumstances this will not apply to any of us because most soliciting charges are misdemeanors, however; as someone else pointed out. If they (the provider and DB) wanted to argue you tried to rob THEM and they were protecting themselves, now you are in armed robbery territory. And it is multiple words against yours. Depending on who you know, what you look like, your profession, and your criminal history will greatly effect how this turns out. But it can absolutely be a nightmare for you for years, even if you "win" in the end.

Low Baller
04-25-22, 18:34
I mostly agree with this position. BL absolutely did the right thing, by backing out without incident. It is generally in the best interest of the shooter to make sure the victim is dead if you have to shoot. This is what law enforcement is taught regardless of what they say publicly, it is also why they don't seek medical assistance in most matters. Dead men don't talk is the mantra they are told over and over. Leaving only the shooters story with no counter-argument. Personally I have mixed feelings on this that go way deeper than this post, but it has been an effective defense for murder for decades.

With that said. Unless you report the incident and invoke Marsy's law, carrying a firearm with intent to commit a crime (even if the firearm was never intended to be used for said crime) is a felony.Not making this into an argument, but for the record, any person engaged in a criminal offense as defined under FL Statute 790.07 (1) and (2) is charged with having a weapon even if said weapon is not shown or carried. But under said statute, you must be committing one of eighteen felonies described in the code, such as murder. Arson, carjacking, aggravated assault, etc. BUT, the FL statute does not include solicitation as one of the 18 delineated crimes! So, reading the law instead of just giving my two-cents, it is clear that a monger legally carrying a gun and going to see a provider is not committing a felony just because he is carrying a gun! Intent or lack thereof is not an issue! Of course, if a monger pulls it out and waves it around saying he is a bad-ass, that is a different crime.

Ok, here is where FL Law gets cool: those DB that tried to rob B L committed an additional felony because they carried knives while attempting to rob B L. Robbery is one of the 18 listed felonies that can lead to an additional weapons charge. And it applies to much more than a firearm!

In fact, all this buzz over carrying a gun is misinformation because under FL Statute 790.07 (1) and (2) a weapon for purposes of Florida law and criminal penalties includes a gun, any size knife, tear gas, tazar, pepper spray, brass knuckles and many other things, even if you only carry them! WTF – if I am carrying a small pocket knife or sissy pepper spray and see a provider I am able to be charged with a felony even if I am only seeing a provider? No! And also same is you legally carry a gun and see a provider, you cannot be charged with a felony for that. But, if she says you tried to rape her after breaking in, then gun, pen knife or sissy pepper spray in your pocket all could result in a felony charge (but probably not a conviction since your phone shows you were invited, so she will be seen as a liar).

Bottomline, you can get nailed for carrying almost anything if you commit a felony, but seeing a provider is not a felony in Florida. So, relax mongers and avoid the misinformation, it is not an issue unless you do commit a felony.

EaglesSb
04-25-22, 23:45
This is 100% correct.

A CC permit is a license to carry concealed. Not a license to flash your brand new toy. Knives while considered deadly weapons are also something you can walk away from unless you're cornered with no other means of escape.

This also isn't an armed robbery. He was in their room. They'll claim self defense. He's lucky they didn't shoot him for waiving a firearm around like a toy.So if you want to kill / rob someone, just invite them in your room and the law will protect them?

JustinCider904
04-26-22, 10:45
Not making this into an argument, but for the record, any person engaged in a criminal offense as defined under FL Statute 790.07 (1) and (2) is charged with having a weapon even if said weapon is not shown or carried. But under said statute, you must be committing one of eighteen felonies described in the code, such as murder. Arson, carjacking, aggravated assault, etc. BUT, the FL statute does not include solicitation as one of the 18 delineated crimes! So, reading the law instead of just giving my two-cents, it is clear that a monger legally carrying a gun and going to see a provider is not committing a felony just because he is carrying a gun! Intent or lack thereof is not an issue! Of course, if a monger pulls it out and waves it around saying he is a bad-ass, that is a different crime.

Ok, here is where FL Law gets cool: those DB that tried to rob B L committed an additional felony because they carried knives while attempting to rob B L. Robbery is one of the 18 listed felonies that can lead to an additional weapons charge. And it applies to much more than a firearm!

In fact, all this buzz over carrying a gun is misinformation because under FL Statute 790.07 (1) and (2) a weapon for purposes of Florida law and criminal penalties includes a gun, any size knife, tear gas, tazar, pepper spray, brass knuckles and many other things, even if you only carry them! WTF if I am carrying a small pocket knife or sissy pepper spray and see a provider I am able to be charged with a felony even if I am only seeing a provider? No! And also same is you legally carry a gun and see a provider, you cannot be charged with a felony for that. But, if she says you tried to rape her after breaking in, then gun, pen knife or sissy pepper spray in your pocket all could result in a felony charge (but probably not a conviction since your phone shows you were invited, so she will be seen as a liar).

Bottomline, you can get nailed for carrying almost anything if you commit a felony, but seeing a provider is not a felony in Florida. So, relax mongers and avoid the misinformation, it is not an issue unless you do commit a felony.While part of what you say is true, it is not misinformation. Your post has inclusion and exclusion of information to make your argument true. This is a common tactic the media and politicians uses to convince people of their perceived plight, anger, discrimination etc.

Actual full line of Florida statue: (1) Whoever, while committing or attempting to commit any felony or while under indictment, displays, uses, threatens, or attempts to use any weapon or electric weapon or device or carries a concealed weapon is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

Notice the attempting to commit line. This is an intentional arbitrary line. What defines attempt? This is where lawyers and juries are left to perception. And depending on who the defendant, victim, jury, judge, and jurisdiction are heavily affects how this is perceived. Attempting does not have to mean, I grabbed you and tried to steal your things. It could mean I entered the room I was invited into and brandished a gun to intimidate you into giving me something (such as sex for free instead of the agreed upon amount or actual robbery, both are felonies). This brings me to where I clarified in my next post, which was totally omitted in your post. "Under most circumstances this will not apply to any of us because most soliciting charges are misdemeanors, however; as someone else pointed out. If they (the provider and DB) wanted to argue you tried to rob THEM and they were protecting themselves, now you are in armed robbery territory. And it is multiple words against yours. Depending on who you know, what you look like, your profession, and your criminal history will greatly effect how this turns out. But it can absolutely be a nightmare for you for years, even if you "win" in the end. ".

It is a complete fallacy to assume the law is on your side. There are so many tactics a victim, or scam artist, or anyone can use to manipulate the law against you. By estimates, up to 10% of people in prison are innocent. There are about 2 million people in prison in the US at any given moment, that is 200,000 innocent people behind bars. And I would bet most of them thought the law was on their side. Just because you perceive the way a law SHOULD be, doesn't mean it is actually like that. If you think your word (the word of someone by their own admission is about to commit a crime) will be accepted as gospel, it is a quick ticket to prison. I do not bring up these situations to be argumentative or oppositional, but to be informative. I would prefer actual bad guys go to jail, instead of those of us trying to have relations between two (or more) consulting adults. It is common that those that have not had direct relationships with the law (either through defense, as a victim, attorney, or even a bailiff) has a misconception and distortion of what actually plays out in court. Trust me when I say, it is not what the media tells you, its not what politicians tell you, its not what you learned in K-12. It is much darker and less just than that. And what happens on the streets is even worse. It is not the police's job to catch bad guys, it is to arrest and fine people to justify their bloated budgets. Although they are not legally allowed to call them such, they all have quotas. It is not their job to decern what is right and wrong, or who the victim or defendant is. It is to arrest them and let the courts decide, either through a judge or jury; whether said person is innocent or not.

JustinCider904
04-26-22, 10:55
So if you want to kill / rob someone, just invite them in your room and the law will protect them?Under the context of what BW gave, yes. Who's to say who the actual victim is? Unless you are recording your interaction the entire time (which wouldn't be allowed as evidence to defend yourself anyway), what proof do you have that you were not the original assailant? They could argue, yes we are soliciting prostitution, yes we are using drugs, yes we know it is illegal, but people have a history of raping me and he (the DB) was just there to protect me. And just like you can invoke Marsy's law, so can they. It is not a given the truth will prevail in the legal system. Which is why I so adamantly defend BL's tactics by backing out without incident.

BudWhite
04-26-22, 18:55
So if you want to kill / rob someone, just invite them in your room and the law will protect them?That's not what I'm saying at all.

My point is this isn't a clear cut case like everyone is making it out to be. He's in a room that isn't his with 4 people he doesn't know. They can say he broke in, that he was buying drugs from them, stalking the girl, or he was robbing them. No vigilante case is ever easy.

One thing is for certain. If he pulls a firearm just to wave it around to intimidate eventually he's going to draw on the wrong person. No more playing Sonic or Mario ever again after making that mistake

FlaWill
04-26-22, 21:46
While part of what you say is true, it is not misinformation. Your post has inclusion and exclusion of information to make your argument true. This is a common tactic the media and politicians uses to convince people of their perceived plight, anger, discrimination etc.

Actual full line of Florida statue: (1) Whoever, while committing or attempting to commit any felony or while under indictment, displays, uses, threatens, or attempts to use any weapon or electric weapon or device or carries a concealed weapon is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

Notice the attempting to commit line. This is an intentional arbitrary line. What defines attempt? This is where lawyers and juries are left to perception. And depending on who the defendant, victim, jury, judge, and jurisdiction are heavily affects how this is perceived. Attempting does not have to mean, I grabbed you and tried to steal your things. It could mean I entered the room I was invited into and brandished a gun to intimidate you into giving me something (such as sex for free instead of the agreed upon amount or actual robbery, both are felonies). This brings me to where I clarified in my next post, which was totally omitted in your post. "Under most circumstances this will not apply to any of us because most soliciting charges are misdemeanors, however; as someone else pointed out. If they (the provider and DB) wanted to argue you tried to rob THEM and they were protecting themselves, now you are in armed robbery territory. And it is multiple words against yours. Depending on who you know, what you look like, your profession, and your criminal history will greatly effect how this turns out. But it can absolutely be a nightmare for you for years, even if you "win" in the end. ".

It is a complete fallacy to assume the law is on your side. There are so many tactics a victim, or scam artist, or anyone can use to manipulate the law against you. By estimates, up to 10% of people in prison are innocent. There are about 2 million people in prison in the US at any given moment, that is 200,000 innocent people behind bars. And I would bet most of them thought the law was on their side. Just because you perceive the way a law SHOULD be, doesn't mean it is actually like that. If you think your word (the word of someone by their own admission is about to commit a crime) will be accepted as gospel, it is a quick ticket to prison. I do not bring up these situations to be argumentative or oppositional, but to be informative. I would prefer actual bad guys go to jail, instead of those of us trying to have relations between two (or more) consulting adults. It is common that those that have not had direct relationships with the law (either through defense, as a victim, attorney, or even a bailiff) has a misconception and distortion of what actually plays out in court. Trust me when I say, it is not what the media tells you, its not what politicians tell you, its not what you learned in K-12. It is much darker and less just than that. And what happens on the streets is even worse. It is not the police's job to catch bad guys, it is to arrest and fine people to justify their bloated budgets. Although they are not legally allowed to call them such, they all have quotas. It is not their job to decern what is right and wrong, or who the victim or defendant is. It is to arrest them and let the courts decide, either through a judge or jury; whether said person is innocent or not.I'll just add this. Many holders of a CCW permit don’t remember all of what they read or were taught about where you cannot carry. Places like Court Houses, Airports, Schools, Premises openly serving alcohol readily come to mind but then there's also a place of nuisance. Don't remember that one or just skimmed over it? If you're unlucky enough to have a ambitious Prosecutor you might fall victim to a common prosecutorial tactic of overcharging someone then later reducing the charge. Each time you get charged again, you get arrested again and go through the process a second or third time. A friend went through this tactic for him to plea out. So, back to a place of nuisance. A place of prostitution qualifies and is mentioned in the Fla Statute. Then there's a place or location that's had a couple of armed robberies, assault and battery over a six month period, that too qualifies as a place of nuisance. Well, that rules out any hotel on Youngerman. So, if you're carrying in a place of nuisance be aware you may not be on as stable ground as you may think. Prosecutors have lots of ability to make life miserable in an already bad situation. Just be aware and be safe, evaluate your own circumstances, and continually assess your situation. USCCA isn't a bad option to have if a situation turns out bad.

Low Baller
04-26-22, 21:52
While part of what you say is true, it is not misinformation. Your post has inclusion and exclusion of information to make your argument true. This is a common tactic the media and politicians uses to convince people of their perceived plight, anger, discrimination etc.

Actual full line of Florida statue: (1) Whoever, while committing or attempting to commit any felony or while under indictment, displays, uses, threatens, or attempts to use any weapon or electric weapon or device or carries a concealed weapon is guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

Notice the attempting to commit line. This is an intentional arbitrary line. What defines attempt? This is where lawyers and juries are left to perception. And depending on who the defendant, victim, jury, judge, and jurisdiction are heavily affects how this is perceived. Attempting does not have to mean, I grabbed you and tried to steal your things. It could mean I entered the room I was invited into and brandished a gun to intimidate you into giving me something (such as sex for free instead of the agreed upon amount or actual robbery, both are felonies).Thanks, I do agree. Who does not remember learning about little George Washington cutting down a cherry tree and since he could not tell a lie he told the truth? And her was such a great guy, just like all the other founding fathers. Then we learn they were not perfect and it was baloney we were told in school. Yes, I agree with you! And the law is not on our side most of the time. Scouting was so all-American and wonderful until the dark secrets of scout leader sexual abuse and cover-up by the BSA brought them to bankruptcy. And cops are not bad but they are human and sometimes shaft people. Agreed. Thanks.

But, I must on my own fork off to the fairytale road to mongers' feeling about providers. We mongers get emotional when a provider lets us screw her puss and then calls us baby and says how we are her favorite guy, etc. Its easy for a provider to make us feel that we are special to her, how good we feel inside her. After all playing our emotions is an important part of how she makes a living. Mongers, it all is a fairytale! We are only $ in a provider's eyes. When we wake up and learn the truth we will not get sucked into over paying them. Sad but true, much of what we have been told or made to feel is just not true. Providers see us as $ and they need $ every day. We are horny and willing to give them some $ if they give us some relief. It is a money focused exchange and we need to be like Rick on Pawn Stars, learn to negotiate and say no if what the provider asks is crazy high.

TopJimmie
04-27-22, 18:30
To bad about Karmen and the latest bad reviews on JAX Escorts thread. Got her kicked off STG as a result. I think its unfair that these providers have no recourse to dispute claims made against them. I know that she has a past and that can't be be helped. I know personally and from other guys that she's a trusted go too for fun and for the most part consistent.

She made an account under sexyscare and respectfully tried to tell her side of the story, I know this because she sent me a screen shot of it before up loading it. It never was posted by the moderator, don't know why but probably because it was disputing claims made by the original monger who posted the bad review. She showed me screenshots of text messages from the that day and let me tell you things are not what they seem.

Anyone who is interested in knowing the other side of this story can PM me and I'd be glad to share what I know first hand.

The pic was from yesterday, she had a bad day after the bad review and being kicked off STG so I payed her a visit. She did not disappoint.Dude! We were told of a scenario involving attempts at armed robbery from karmen and some thugs. Now you're trying to say that you'll tell the other side of the story vis PM? Talk about a white knight!

This is a forum we use to protect one another from the everyday dangers of this very thing, which you are seemingly supportive of by immediately going to her rescue! Do not tell any such secret sob story defending this felony behavior!

Tell us on this public forum, or shut the fuck up! You're making a fool of yourself by sincerely discrediting every word you ever post to this site.

Admin2
04-28-22, 17:49
I am seriously considering adding a rule prohibiting the discussion of guns or the right to carry on review threads.

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment guy but some of you guys are whackadoodles.

A2

Red Talon
04-29-22, 05:24
I am seriously considering adding a rule prohibiting the discussion of guns or the right to carry on review threads.

I'm a staunch 2nd Amendment guy but some of you guys are whackadoodles.

A2Seems like some are lying as no-one would be stupid enough to do what they are doing. Owning let alone carrying is a tremendous responsibility and some on here are acting like they are Dirty Harry.

PlayTiem
04-30-22, 09:38
Your going go to call me piece of shit for having the balls to defend myself. That's why guys like me who fought for this country, is the reason why little pussy fucks like you who didn't get laid high school, who have never lived up to a standard in life, who always cried for not getting a trophy for finishing last, but still got acknowledged for trying, is the reason why you grew up to be *****! Your a crybaby little simp bastard who does what your femboy pimp tells you what to do. So you say " how dare you shoot at anyone, you'll got to jail". "That's not how you treat a provider and her pimp". So I guess I'm suppose to stand there and let them rob me and be on my way right? That's just how it goes right? That's just the nature of the game right? And of course your going to say "well, you who had no business being there in the first place". Your right.

I had no business being in Afghanistan, but I was there. That doesn't mean you get to dictate my fate. There is people that have worked really hard and earned their right to exist on this planet. I can make a pretty good guess that 90% of these providers as well as their degenerate pimps haven't earned nothing in this lifetime. And if anything, they should all be castrated. Especially the ones who are going out their way take advantage of good people. This is why we can't have good things in this country.I'm so sorry that your penis is so small, and you are so angry about it.

Please find a way to resolve your personal issues besides shooting people.

I believe that shooting people is a resort, but a last resort.

I've also got an adequately large cock (ask any of the providers that I've seen), and one that's been getting serviced not "didn't laid get high school", but "has been getting laid during and since high school" (notice the difference in grammar. Mine is correct), and am of a generation that doesn't believe in participation trophies.

Fucking drama queen.

BigEnk61
04-30-22, 11:50
I'm so sorry that your penis is so small, and you are so angry about it.

Please find a way to resolve your personal issues besides shooting people.

I believe that shooting people is a resort, but a last resort.

I've also got an adequately large cock (ask any of the providers that I've seen), and one that's been getting serviced not "didn't laid get high school", but "has been getting laid during and since high school" (notice the difference in grammar. Mine is correct), and am of a generation that doesn't believe in participation trophies.

Fucking drama queen.That's perfect, couldn't have said it better.

Red Talon
05-01-22, 07:35
Your going go to call me piece of shit for having the balls to defend myself. That's why guys like me who fought for this country, is the reason why little pussy fucks like you who didn't get laid high school, who have never lived up to a standard in life, who always cried for not getting a trophy for finishing last, but still got acknowledged for trying, is the reason why you grew up to be *****! Your a crybaby little simp bastard who does what your femboy pimp tells you what to do. So you say " how dare you shoot at anyone, you'll got to jail". "That's not how you treat a provider and her pimp". So I guess I'm suppose to stand there and let them rob me and be on my way right? That's just how it goes right? That's just the nature of the game right? And of course your going to say "well, you who had no business being there in the first place". Your right.

I had no business being in Afghanistan, but I was there. That doesn't mean you get to dictate my fate. There is people that have worked really hard and earned their right to exist on this planet. I can make a pretty good guess that 90% of these providers as well as their degenerate pimps haven't earned nothing in this lifetime. And if anything, they should all be castrated. Especially the ones who are going out their way take advantage of good people. This is why we can't have good things in this country.Don't forget, you CHOSE to put yourself into a potentially bad situation that is also illegal. Your thought process is exactly why people who actually carry get a bad rep. Stop being a dipshit and maybe retake the CCW course as it's obvious you did not pay attention the first time. In fact, turn in your permit as someone with your issues should not be carrying. It's just a matter of time before you fuck up.

BudWhite
05-01-22, 09:39
I had no business being in Afghanistan, but I was there. That doesn't mean you get to dictate my fate. There is people that have worked really hard and earned their right to exist on this planet. I can make a pretty good guess that 90% of these providers as well as their degenerate pimps haven't earned nothing in this lifetime. And if anything, they should all be castrated. Especially the ones who are going out their way take advantage of good people. This is why we can't have good things in this country.I appreciate your service. I have to respectfully disagree though. You did have business in Afghanistan. There wasn't a draft so you obviously enlisted under your own free will. Part of the job of selecting a career in the military is that there is a chance our country goes to war.

FunTimeTom
05-12-22, 12:15
WTF is up with JAX? Why are all the girls either a crackhead or scammer. Where are all the legit SWer at?

TomCat4871
05-21-22, 12:00
Seems to be pretty real. The combination of the hiring market too. Because I'm looking through social media and I'm seeing some chics gets jobs who barely ever had any. So yeah, 60 is almost gone, and 80 is on its way out, it seems. So the only option is pay it, spank and pay it less often, and just wait out a market correction if there is any?

Powerhouse100
05-22-22, 18:36
Seems to be pretty real. The combination of the hiring market too. Because I'm looking through social media and I'm seeing some chics gets jobs who barely ever had any. So yeah, 60 is almost gone, and 80 is on its way out, it seems. So the only option is pay it, spank and pay it less often, and just wait out a market correction if there is any?Tom,

You said a mouthful! The best way to beat them at this game is to do it a whole lot less. The demand is driving up the costs. These girls have come to reazlize that if they can increase their prices, they only have to see, maybe, two people a day. I mean, if one is asking for 120 for a qv and saw 2 people, that's $240/ day and they only had to work no more than 30 minutes per day. I don't know if this will ever get better because, now, they know jokers are willing to pay a mint for stinky kitty kat! We have to realize too that if these girls had another viable alternative in life, they wouldn't be selling kat. I have had so many tell me how much they hate sex, so go figure!

FredTed1
05-23-22, 12:47
Yes, 200 in thirty minutes sounds like a lot, but in four hours they are out of candy. I agree that prices are going up, gas. Food and everything else. The other commodities will lower prices a bit maybe, so imo there is not much we can do about it. If you want to dance pay the band!!Just remember that you voted for that gas, food, cars, loans, vystar crashing etc. I'm just taking a wild guess that there's mostly left leaning party voters in here and since you didn't mention why all the prices are up I'm guessing you're one. Only one thing is going to bring the prices back down and it's going to be until about March 2025 if it happens.

TallBear
05-24-22, 09:34
Just remember that you voted for that gas, food, cars, loans, vystar crashing etc. I'm just taking a wild guess that there's mostly left leaning party voters in here and since you didn't mention why all the prices are up I'm guessing you're one. Only one thing is going to bring the prices back down and it's going to be until about March 2025 if it happens.Can I not even read a fuck board without being subjected to off-topic Biden-bashing neo-fascist bullshit? Your assumption about your fellow mongers' political predelictions is absurd & ignoring your Putin-fluffing fanboy's role in setting the stage for the current (global) inflation is absolutely typical. Take it to the goddamn Woodshed!

As for the actual topic: in my experience, the "donation" rates were at their highest about 10 years ago, when inflation was low, the economy was booming & the political right was apoplectic about a Black man in the White House.

BeachDan9999
05-24-22, 12:27
Can I not even read a fuck board without being subjected to off-topic Biden-bashing neo-fascist bullshit? Your assumption about your fellow mongers' political predelictions is absurd & ignoring your Putin-fluffing fanboy's role in setting the stage for the current (global) inflation is absolutely typical. Take it to the goddamn Woodshed!

As for the actual topic: in my experience, the "donation" rates were at their highest about 10 years ago, when inflation was low, the economy was booming & the political right was apoplectic about a Black man in the White House.Typical liberal hypocrite. Please spare us your political rambling's.

KoolBreeze
05-24-22, 13:04
Can I not even read a fuck board without being subjected to off-topic Biden-bashing neo-fascist bullshit? Your assumption about your fellow mongers' political predelictions is absurd & ignoring your Putin-fluffing fanboy's role in setting the stage for the current (global) inflation is absolutely typical. Take it to the goddamn Woodshed!

As for the actual topic: in my experience, the "donation" rates were at their highest about 10 years ago, when inflation was low, the economy was booming & the political right was apoplectic about a Black man in the White House.You the man. That's all I need to say. LOL.

Grune
05-24-22, 15:33
Just remember that you voted for that gas, food, cars, loans, vystar crashing etc. I'm just taking a wild guess that there's mostly left leaning party voters in here and since you didn't mention why all the prices are up I'm guessing you're one. Only one thing is going to bring the prices back down and it's going to be until about March 2025 if it happens.Can we just be in here without some trump dingaling ruining conversation?

DllsCwby
05-25-22, 14:49
Typical liberal hypocrite. Please spare us your political rambling's.100% everything they touch turns to shit.

Red Talon
05-25-22, 15:29
100% everything they touch turns to shit.I'm old enough to remember back to the Carter administration. I was farming at that time and it was really, really bad. That being said, I've never seen an administration literally fuck up everything they touch. They keep touting the unemployment number, of course it's going to be low! You literally locked people out of where they worked for over a year, they are just going back to their jobs!

Biden makes a statement in front of the world, the Whitehouse walks it back. Who is pulling his strings? He walks around like someone is sticking a huge key in his back and winding him up every few hours. Total gaffe machine, Carrie's notes for everything and still can't make coherent statements.

If you put in term limits, let's say 2 for a senator and 4 for a state rep plus severely limit how much money they can make in office plus no lobbying when they are out that would help.

Plus, it's all about poll numbers. If the abortion issue was so important, the Democrats could have introduced legislation on day one since they control of the house, senate and president. But, not a work was said until the public started gnashing their teeth about Roe. VS. Wade. Neither side is any good but I have heard a lot more crazy ass shit from Democrats over the Republicans.

OnTime877
05-25-22, 20:29
It's worldwide inflation, not centered in the US. Worldwide, sort of reminds me when there was a worldwide pandemic that is now becoming endemic. Worldwide, yet the Fox News crowd was running around claiming it was a conspiracy to defeat Trump and it all ends in November 2020. No, it was a worldwide pandemic, and the whole world wasn't conspiring against Trump. This all begs the question though, what part of "worldwide" do you not understand? The main causes of the current inflation are disrupted supply chains (Covid) and a war that is the greatest threat to Europe since WW II. It also involves key exporters of food and fuel. So cry about Biden all ya like, but do it with facts and the proper context. You'll never get that watching Fox.

At least we have our democracy back, a habitually lying, serial grifter and insurrectionist is gone. And he's losing his king maker status as his attempts to exact revenge in Georgia have failed. Our system worked, barely, and here's hoping none of you guys contributed to his "stop the steal" scam as 90% of that, 10's of millions went in his own pocket.

P.S. For those who'd say we'd never have had the war if Trump was in office, I'd agree to an extent. I mean when our president is sucking up to little Vlad swooning over him in public, believing him over US intelligence services, Trump grifting in the Ukraine withholding taxpayer funds asking for personal favors, bungling a pandemic, minimizing, lying for his political skin while we have the highest Covid death rate among wealthy nations, wrecking US democracy lying about election stealing stirring up insurrection, jockeying to pull us out of NATO, etc, why distract from all that by invading Ukraine?? It was coming though as such has been Putin's design all along as he'd already told us, to absorb Ukraine and more while turning back NATO to pre-1997.

But hey, sorry to interrupt the overly simiplistic Fox News talking points. You guys carry on. Bring back the party of Reagan, who as we speak is turning in his grave.

OnTime877
05-25-22, 20:50
Yep, with very few exceptions inflation is currently worldwide. Scroll down, use the drop down menu and check the graphs by county.

https://www.ft.com/content/088d3368-bb8b-4ff3-9df7-a7680d4d81b2

And this is from a centrist, UK source with an excellent reputation for accuracy.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/

Stop letting Hannity and Tucker do your thinking for you, which is allowing your mind to be a propaganda receptacle.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

WailOnSkydog
05-26-22, 10:32
Yep, with very few exceptions inflation is currently worldwide. Scroll down, use the drop down menu and check the graphs by county.

https://www.ft.com/content/088d3368-bb8b-4ff3-9df7-a7680d4d81b2

And this is from a centrist, UK source with an excellent reputation for accuracy.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/

Stop letting Hannity and Tucker do your thinking for you, which is allowing your mind to be a propaganda receptacle.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/You have no idea what you're talking about. The site you vouch for as a media fact checker is run by Dave Van Zandt. Who is a left-wing loon. He considers the WSJ to be "Right-wing". There's so much wrong with this site that it is comparable to Snopes.

Regarding world-wide inflation. What is your point? When the world's largest energy producer (USA) shuts down production-the impact is worldwide. PMR (price margin realization) is in full effect across all sectors. Raw materials, refining processes, manufacturing, farming, fertilizers, transportation and warehousing all impacted.

I encourage critical thinking. Now, where can I find some good pussy?

Stay safe!

Skydog.

TallBear
05-27-22, 02:14
In what universe is the Wall Street Journal not "right wing"? The WSJ has worn its conservative capitalist credentials proudly since I was kicking slats out of my crib. Yeah, WSJ dislikes the Tangerine Mussolini who just vacated the White House but that merely means they remain "thinking man's conservative". Being "right wing" has not always meant one is a neo-Confederate white supremacist, traitorous insurrectionist, outright fascist or Q-Anon crazy.

But if that's the new standard (it's certainly the trend) then, sure, even the WSJ is "woke".

The US has not, in fact, shut down oil & gas production, not by a long shot. Big Oil is still drilling, still pumping and still making a killing. No industry is better at exploiting global instability for maximum profit.

Where is that windfall profits tax when we need it? Oh, that's right, Big Business strangled that baby in its crib after the OPEC embargo.

WailOnSkydog
05-27-22, 11:11
In what universe is the Wall Street Journal not "right wing"? The WSJ has worn its conservative capitalist credentials proudly since I was kicking slats out of my crib. Yeah, WSJ dislikes the Tangerine Mussolini who just vacated the White House but that merely means they remain "thinking man's conservative". Being "right wing" has not always meant one is a neo-Confederate white supremacist, traitorous insurrectionist, outright fascist or Q-Anon crazy.

But if that's the new standard (it's certainly the trend) then, sure, even the WSJ is "woke".

The US has not, in fact, shut down oil & gas production, not by a long shot. Big Oil is still drilling, still pumping and still making a killing. No industry is better at exploiting global instability for maximum profit.

Where is that windfall profits tax when we need it? Oh, that's right, Big Business strangled that baby in its crib after the OPEC embargo.So being a capitalist is right wing? Making profits is bad?

Who ever hired you in your life?

You're right. We haven't completely stopped production- just severely curtailed it. That way, we can buy energy from happy places like Venezuela, where I'm sure Maduro is sharing the wealth.

President Teleprompter appreciates your support.

Oh, do you know what an insurrection is? It's obvious that you don't.

Wail On.

Skydog.

MikeEbanks
05-27-22, 13:06
I don't know about your anecdotes and personal attacks so I'll focus on the 3rd statement.

Money in politics should be a no brainer by now just about everyone supports the idea (term limits, no more lobbying, and remove money from elections). Please research which party is blocking that progress for the last 10 years at the very least and reflect on it.

In regards to abortion again, it is a bit unfair to ask them (democrats) to do anything when everyone knows (including yourself) anything divisive has zero chance in a 50-50 split senate.


I'm old enough to remember back to the Carter administration. I was farming at that time and it was really, really bad. That being said, I've never seen an administration literally fuck up everything they touch. They keep touting the unemployment number, of course it's going to be low! You literally locked people out of where they worked for over a year, they are just going back to their jobs!

Biden makes a statement in front of the world, the Whitehouse walks it back. Who is pulling his strings? He walks around like someone is sticking a huge key in his back and winding him up every few hours. Total gaffe machine, Carrie's notes for everything and still can't make coherent statements.

If you put in term limits, let's say 2 for a senator and 4 for a state rep plus severely limit how much money they can make in office plus no lobbying when they are out that would help.

Plus, it's all about poll numbers. If the abortion issue was so important, the Democrats could have introduced legislation on day one since they control of the house, senate and president. But, not a work was said until the public started gnashing their teeth about Roe. VS. Wade. Neither side is any good but I have heard a lot more crazy ass shit from Democrats over the Republicans.

MikeEbanks
05-27-22, 13:23
The US (25% of the world economy), China (19% EU and Japan. And basically everyone shut down. Even if we had stayed open there was no escape from economical upheaval. Incidentally UK inflation seems even higher than the US.


You have no idea what you're talking about. The site you vouch for as a media fact checker is run by Dave Van Zandt. Who is a left-wing loon. He considers the WSJ to be "Right-wing". There's so much wrong with this site that it is comparable to Snopes.

Regarding world-wide inflation. What is your point? When the world's largest energy producer (USA) shuts down production-the impact is worldwide. PMR (price margin realization) is in full effect across all sectors. Raw materials, refining processes, manufacturing, farming, fertilizers, transportation and warehousing all impacted.

I encourage critical thinking. Now, where can I find some good pussy?

Stay safe!

Skydog.