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I have decided to post some basic info about both how to protect yourself in this digital age.
And how to use apps and programs to your advantage. Hope some people find it useful.
Always a good idea to have a burn phone or fake phone number to use when mongering.
Google voice (for now) fits this perfectly. On a pc you can use it to text and for incoming voicemail. On apple / android smart phones you can simply use the app for text / voicemail.
Or you can download apps to add to its use. Moi google +voice or talkatone both are great (search your app store) they allow calls over wifi and sometimes 3 g and always offer text and voicemail. Best of all they offer a completely different number than your "real number" also having a second number has uses like finding a provider who may be blocking you after robbing you or are jerking you around on time issues.
On a pc make a google account and then search google voice and log in.
On smartphone make a google account. Log into google voice via email area. Download the google voice app or even better talkatone / moi google+ voice and log in.
Enjoy your new free fake number!
If any info is a little off I apolagize log in procedures etc change occasionally.
Google now using more secure methods to stop LEO from snooping your private stuff.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0, 2817,2455203,00.asp.
This is a good thing for mongers who store emails pics vids and contacts in there gmail acct instead of a phone so wives gfs can't find, bravo google!
Tineye searches and google image searches can give you some clue as to if a provider is real, fake, or a scam.
Also search the phone number in a google search helps sometimes.
Sorry kimber1 accident on deletion.
Kimber1 pointed out to me google still must give info to LEO, I didn't mean to imply it didn't, just that it upped its security a little. Any info on the web is accesible to LEO.
In some manner. I just prefer to store stuff on a gmail account (zipped with encrytion if I must) rather than a phone my family etc could pick up and use. Personal choice though.
Since tor (not torrent) was cracked bye the fbi there is no way to use email etc without being some traces left behind.
But I don't believe making calls and texts on google voice etc show up in your billing cycles since they are web use not texts / calls that's a safety step to hide from your wife.
Which is a good thing.
Why I personally don't rely on tor encryption.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24345-silk-road-bust-hints-at-fbis-new-cybercrime-powers.html#.UzItYc6 wVgE.
Most of these are refurbs but very cheap and disposable if needed in a pinch. Can be activated in a fake name etc.
Most even come with airtime card included! 30-60 dollars airtime included is very cheap to keep your butt out of trouble with the wife etc.
http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?_refineresult=true&adid=22222222220207338965&search_query=Straight+Talk&veh=sem&wl0=be&wl1=g&wl2=see&wl3=25864525922&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&facet=condition%3 ARefurbished.
I hate links.
http://www.walmart.com/browse/cell-phones/prepaid-cell-phones/straight-talk/3944_542371_133261/YnJhbmQ6U3RyYWlnaHQgVGFsawieie
Talkatone app for iOS and a google voice number made my mobile a burner. Great advice, and I second the notion hiding from the wife is crucial. Downside is you end up with a number outside of Lexington. Not a deal breaker, but it'll show up as a different town on caller ID.
Talkatone app for iOS and a google voice number made my mobile a burner. Great advice, and I second the notion hiding from the wife is crucial. Downside is you end up with a number outside of Lexington. Not a deal breaker, but it'll show up as a different town on caller ID.I think I have one for alabama and cinci LOL but a walker thinking you don't live in town maybe a good thing! Google voice used to have lex numbers they don't now? Talkatone I didn't even try the local numbers.
Why I personally don't rely on tor encryption.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24345-silk-road-bust-hints-at-fbis-new-cybercrime-powers.html#.UzItYc6 wVgE.I don't understand a word of this. Good thing I know golf.
I think I have one for alabama and cinci LOL but a walker thinking you don't live in town maybe a good thing! Google voice used to have lex numbers they don't now? Talkatone I didn't even try the local numbers.G.V. Has not offered a Lex exchange # to date. Vast majority of the 859 exchanges have been from area around NKY. There is / was a limited amount of #'s for an exchange out of Harrodsburg / Cornishville. That's as close to Lex it has gotten. And it's unlikely they will anytime soon if ever.
Why I personally don't rely on tor encryption.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24345-silk-road-bust-hints-at-fbis-new-cybercrime-powers.html#.UzItYc6 wVgE.You rely on google voice but don't tor encryption. Oh geez Oh pete, I'm not really sure where to start on this.
Guys be careful out there as well as what you read in here. If you are serious about your electronic security, this isn't the way. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes or upset anyone, but there is just too much wrong information and bad advice being posted in here not to say something.
You rely on google voice but don't tor encryption. Oh geez Oh pete, I'm not really sure where to start on this.
Guys be careful out there as well as what you read in here. If you are serious about your electronic security, this isn't the way. I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes or upset anyone, but there is just too much wrong information and bad advice being posted in here not to say something.I rely on google voice to hide from my wife, not law enforcement, LOL. Maybe I need to explain more I shouldn't have mentioned tor even.
But I appreciate any and all info or comments. I didn't start this as a how to avoid LEO thread, I just got off topic.
G.V. Has not offered a Lex exchange # to date. Vast majority of the 859 exchanges have been from area around NKY. There is / was a limited amount of #'s for an exchange out of Harrodsburg / Cornishville. That's as close to Lex it has gotten. And it's unlikely they will anytime soon if ever.I had one with a 859 area code tied to a old aol. Email. I just assumed it was lex. Completely my fault.
This thread is meant as a help guide to help mongers avoid there wives / children finding there mongering habits on there phone etc, not a guide to avoid law enforcement.
I'm sorry if I got off topic, common sense is your best tool to avoid cousin LEO. Rather than store my mongering contacts or photos on my phone, I store them on a google acct.
Purely so the info doesn't pop up on my phone on accident.
I use google voice / talkatone only so girls don't have my number to call / text me at bad times, only when I CHOOSE to contact them!
I won't mention tor anymore as I don't wish to confuse the issue or mongers.
Always a good idea to have a burn phone or fake phone number to use when mongering.
Google voice (for now) fits this perfectly. On a pc you can use it to text and for incoming voicemail. On apple / android smart phones you can simply use the app for text / voicemail.
Or you can download apps to add to its use. Moi google +voice or talkatone both are great (search your app store) they allow calls over wifi and sometimes 3 g and always offer text and voicemail. Best of all they offer a completely different number than your "real number" also having a second number has uses like finding a provider who may be blocking you after robbing you or are jerking you around on time issues.
On a pc make a google account and then search google voice and log in.
On smartphone make a google account. Log into google voice via email area. Download the google voice app or even better talkatone / moi google+ voice and log in.
Enjoy your new free fake number!
If any info is a little off I apolagize log in procedures etc change occasionally.Google will track and store all this data forever, and what's tracked and stored is subject to subpoena. It's a relatively small risk probably. Still, I simply don't trust Google to maintain privacy safeguards when their whole model is built around tracking everything you do and piling it into a single data stream across all devices so they can sell advertising against it.
Google will track and store all this data forever, and what's tracked and stored is subject to subpoena. It's a relatively small risk probably. Still, I simply don't trust Google to maintain privacy safeguards when their whole model is built around tracking everything you do and piling it into a single data stream across all devices so they can sell advertising against it.Very good point. But your phone records would also be subject to subpoena correct?
Unless you just use a cheap burner AND can hide it so your wife never finds it.
No tactic is safe from wives and cousin LEO!
But I appreciate all comments.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?11051-Mongering-For-Newbies-%28please-no-replys-if-you-have-a-comment-just-PM-me%29
TheDaytimer
03-30-14, 10:06
A google voice number is traceable back to the IP when you obtained it or if you ever use the gmail account.
Always a good idea to have a burn phone or fake phone number to use when mongering.
Google voice (for now) fits this perfectly. On a pc you can use it to text and for incoming voicemail. On apple / android smart phones you can simply use the app for text / voicemail.
Or you can download apps to add to its use. Moi google +voice or talkatone both are great (search your app store) they allow calls over wifi and sometimes 3 g and always offer text and voicemail. Best of all they offer a completely different number than your "real number" also having a second number has uses like finding a provider who may be blocking you after robbing you or are jerking you around on time issues.
On a pc make a google account and then search google voice and log in.
On smartphone make a google account. Log into google voice via email area. Download the google voice app or even better talkatone / moi google+ voice and log in.
Enjoy your new free fake number!
If any info is a little off I apolagize log in procedures etc change occasionally.
Member #4483
03-30-14, 13:38
Google now using more secure methods to stop LEO from snooping your private stuff.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0, 2817,2455203,00.asp.
This is a good thing for mongers who store emails pics vids and contacts in there gmail acct instead of a phone so wives gfs can't find, bravo google!310215
GOOGLE is the most intrusive company in the universe, period! The FEDS have the ability to plug straight into Google's entire network. When you "secure" trash, aka secure delete, things from your Google Gmail account, you believe they are gone, correct? Think again; they are NOT gone. Google is the only company in the universe that keeps everything, and they keep it forever! Believe what you will, but nothing is ever "securely deleted" from your Google account -- NOT from Gmail, NOT from Google Voice, etc., etc., etc.!
I highly recommend, instead of using Google Gmail, that you CLOSE your Google Gmail account immediately after you open an account at "FastMail-dot-fm" -- GoTo: www.FastMail.fm and read all you can about their great, secure service. I like the FastMail company for several very important reasons including, but not limited to, (1) the fact that they are based overseas; (2) I have used them for more than 10 years without ever having a single issue; (3) they are regularly rated as being one of the top e-mail service providers in the entire world; (4) they have a relatively lengthy list of domains to choose from; (5) their pricing is very reasonable and more than competitive; (6) you can create numerous "alias" accounts (I have more than 50 alias accounts); AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, (7) when you SECURE DELETE anything from your FastMail account, it is, in fact, SECURELY DELETED FOREVER!
Since one has the ability to create (and delete, whenever one wishes) numerous FastMail "alias" accounts, I have been able to easily and regularly change my Google Voice numbers. I never keep a Google Voice number for regular mongering use for more than 90 days or so before I create a new FastMail "alias" to use to obtain yet another new and free Google Voice number. Once you learn the procedure involved, the entire process takes less than five minutes from start to finish to create a new "alias" at FastMail, test it, then use the new "alias" to go to Google Voice to get a new number to use from that point forward. Candidly, I have quickly and easily obtained and used more than 30 Google Voice numbers using this method.
While it is true that LE absolutely has the ability to access Google Voice, the key to trying to remain UTR is to NOT show up a lot -- meaning -- the more often you use a particular Google Voice number for mongering purposes, the more often you should get and use a new and different Google Voice number. When any particular number (or e-Mail) shows up a lot in an investigation, it becomes a target for LE. This is just common sense and follows the old 80/20 Rule, that is, 80-percent of the calls (or e-Mails) going back and forth between providers and mongers most likely involve or comprise a mere 20-percent of the numbers (or e-Mails) involved in a LE investigation. So it goes without saying that you do NOT want your number (or e-Mail) to show up in that 20-percent group or category. THIS IS THE MOST OFTEN OVERLOOKED FACT concerning investigations, IMHO. I believe SOP for LE today is to focus on and then catch the worst of the worst -- and that is pretty much true across the entire range of offenses irrespective of what the "flavor of the month" just happens to be at any given point in time.
The FACTS are that anything and everything you do on the Internet, via e-Mail and otherwise, as well as on a cell phone, leaves traceable tracks all over the place -- it's inevitable and inescapable. In other words, the ISSUE is really NOT a matter of whether something is traceable because everything is traceable. IT IS BIG BROTHER'S GREATEST DREAM COME TRUE! Since it's inevitable and inescapable that you are going to leave traceable tracks, YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR STRATEGY in order to try to remain UTR BY PUTTING THE ODDS AND THE PERCENTAGES IN YOUR FAVOR as explained throughout this post.
The moral to this story is that you should change your Google Voice number really often, but you need a new e-Mail address to do that (and opening new e-Mail accounts all the time is a hassle, to say the least), or be willing to pay Google to change your existing number, which is just plain dumb on every level to pay Google, IMHO. So your choice is to open a new e-Mail account every time you want to get a new, FREE Google Voice number, or merely create an "alias" account under your existing account (provided your current e-Mail service provider offers that feature to you), which looks and acts like a real, not an alias, e-Mail account. Again, I want to emphasize that the key to trying to remain UTR is to regularly change your Google Voice number and e-Mail address so it does NOT show up enough to move you into the 20-percent category. And the best way that I am aware of to accomplish this strategy is to use a reliable, offshore e-Mail service provider (very important detail) to create "alias" e-Mail accounts to then obtain new Google Voice numbers on a schedule in-line with your mongering habits and level of activity, which should keep your "identifiable" information out of the top 20-percent category!
As a side NOTE: FYI, I also prefer to use www.StartPage.com for my Internet searches as opposed to using Google since Google also keeps every search that it performs. I used to exclusively use Scroogle but Google more or less put them out of business about 7-8 years ago, as I recall. Although I preferred using the old Scroogle to using www.StartPage.com, at least www.StartPage.com is still way better than using Google, IMHO. In addition, I use IP changing services a lot too, e.g., www.HideMyAss.com and JonDo (visit: https://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondo.html), which are anonymous IP changers.
Incidentally, IMHO, one of the absolute most secure ways to communicate with providers and to setup appointments is to use the PM system here at USASG. The drawbacks are, of course, that a very high percentage of providers do NOT understand this, rarely check for or answer PMs (at least NOT promptly or regularly, in any case), and almost all of them lead such unpredictable and tumultuous lives that their respective schedules and availability changes minute-by-minute, which effectively renders the PM system useless when any last minute change is made by the vast majority of providers. I suppose it's still a very good system to use with the less than 2-percent of providers who are reliable, organized, and sane -- but certainly NOT with the remaining 98-percent majority who are unreliable, disorganized, and psychological basket cases.
Good luck, and HAPPY HUNTING always! --SA007.
310215
Guys once again, I'm not posting these tips to avoid fbi state police etc. I'm posting these tips primarily to hide contacts and photos of ladies from wife gf etc.
These current times the LEO can track you practically anywhere they want!
No web service is 100% LEO proof.
I'm just trying to help guys not buy a burner phone every month just to get laid.
Hell a cheap burner and time card is equal to a monger visit! I'd rather have tail than a new phone.
Chuck Roast
05-20-14, 01:55
I use this, you can even change your voice to a lady if it serves your purpose...
https://www.spoofcard.com/
You can get a SIP client for your smart phone and purchase a number from http: urlreplacement0} for $4.95 per month and $0.0136 per minute.
I change numbers very frequently plus it's a Montserrat root domain not a USA based domain.
https://duckduckgo.com/ ......doesn't track or store info.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/lexington-ky ...all information is good information. Sometimes busts and LEO activity are discussed there.
http://lexington.craigslist.org/search/cas/?query=w4m .....I've never had any luck there but hey its free.
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en .....I'm not a fan since LEO cracked it, but if your the paranoid anti government type it offers better than stock encryption.
http://eroticmugshots.com/lexington-escorts/ ...lotta deleted or old ads stored there stuff beyond backpage too.
https://incloak.com/ ...not my thing but some might find it useful.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-track-a-cell-phone/#!RvGjy...very useful in my opinion esp if your phone is lost or stolen etc.
310215
GOOGLE is the most intrusive company in the universe, period! The FEDS have the ability to plug straight into Google's entire network. When you "secure" trash, aka secure delete, things from your Google Gmail account, you believe they are gone, correct? Think again; they are NOT gone. Google is the only company in the universe that keeps everything, and they keep it forever! Believe what you will, but nothing is ever "securely deleted" from your Google account -- NOT from Gmail, NOT from Google Voice, etc., etc., etc.!
I highly recommend, instead of using Google Gmail, that you CLOSE your Google Gmail account immediately after you open an account at "FastMail-dot-fm" -- GoTo: www.FastMail.fm and read all you can about their great, secure service. I like the FastMail company for several very important reasons including, but not limited to, (1) the fact that they are based overseas; (2) I have used them for more than 10 years without ever having a single issue; (3) they are regularly rated as being one of the top e-mail service providers in the entire world; (4) they have a relatively lengthy list of domains to choose from; (5) their pricing is very reasonable and more than competitive; (6) you can create numerous "alias" accounts (I have more than 50 alias accounts); AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, (7) when you SECURE DELETE anything from your FastMail account, it is, in fact, SECURELY DELETED FOREVER!
Since one has the ability to create (and delete, whenever one wishes) numerous FastMail "alias" accounts, I have been able to easily and regularly change my Google Voice numbers. I never keep a Google Voice number for regular mongering use for more than 90 days or so before I create a new FastMail "alias" to use to obtain yet another new and free Google Voice number. Once you learn the procedure involved, the entire process takes less than five minutes from start to finish to create a new "alias" at FastMail, test it, then use the new "alias" to go to Google Voice to get a new number to use from that point forward. Candidly, I have quickly and easily obtained and used more than 30 Google Voice numbers using this method.
While it is true that LE absolutely has the ability to access Google Voice, the key to trying to remain UTR is to NOT show up a lot -- meaning -- the more often you use a particular Google Voice number for mongering purposes, the more often you should get and use a new and different Google Voice number. When any particular number (or e-Mail) shows up a lot in an investigation, it becomes a target for LE. This is just common sense and follows the old 80/20 Rule, that is, 80-percent of the calls (or e-Mails) going back and forth between providers and mongers most likely involve or comprise a mere 20-percent of the numbers (or e-Mails) involved in a LE investigation. So it goes without saying that you do NOT want your number (or e-Mail) to show up in that 20-percent group or category. THIS IS THE MOST OFTEN OVERLOOKED FACT concerning investigations, IMHO. I believe SOP for LE today is to focus on and then catch the worst of the worst -- and that is pretty much true across the entire range of offenses irrespective of what the "flavor of the month" just happens to be at any given point in time.
The FACTS are that anything and everything you do on the Internet, via e-Mail and otherwise, as well as on a cell phone, leaves traceable tracks all over the place -- it's inevitable and inescapable. In other words, the ISSUE is really NOT a matter of whether something is traceable because everything is traceable. IT IS BIG BROTHER'S GREATEST DREAM COME TRUE! Since it's inevitable and inescapable that you are going to leave traceable tracks, YOU MUST CHANGE YOUR STRATEGY in order to try to remain UTR BY PUTTING THE ODDS AND THE PERCENTAGES IN YOUR FAVOR as explained throughout this post.
The moral to this story is that you should change your Google Voice number really often, but you need a new e-Mail address to do that (and opening new e-Mail accounts all the time is a hassle, to say the least), or be willing to pay Google to change your existing number, which is just plain dumb on every level to pay Google, IMHO. So your choice is to open a new e-Mail account every time you want to get a new, FREE Google Voice number, or merely create an "alias" account under your existing account (provided your current e-Mail service provider offers that feature to you), which looks and acts like a real, not an alias, e-Mail account. Again, I want to emphasize that the key to trying to remain UTR is to regularly change your Google Voice number and e-Mail address so it does NOT show up enough to move you into the 20-percent category. And the best way that I am aware of to accomplish this strategy is to use a reliable, offshore e-Mail service provider (very important detail) to create "alias" e-Mail accounts to then obtain new Google Voice numbers on a schedule in-line with your mongering habits and level of activity, which should keep your "identifiable" information out of the top 20-percent category!
As a side NOTE: FYI, I also prefer to use www.StartPage.com for my Internet searches as opposed to using Google since Google also keeps every search that it performs. I used to exclusively use Scroogle but Google more or less put them out of business about 7-8 years ago, as I recall. Although I preferred using the old Scroogle to using www.StartPage.com, at least www.StartPage.com is still way better than using Google, IMHO. In addition, I use IP changing services a lot too, e.g., www.HideMyAss.com and JonDo (visit: https://anonymous-proxy-servers.net/en/jondo.html), which are anonymous IP changers.
Incidentally, IMHO, one of the absolute most secure ways to communicate with providers and to setup appointments is to use the PM system here at USASG. The drawbacks are, of course, that a very high percentage of providers do NOT understand this, rarely check for or answer PMs (at least NOT promptly or regularly, in any case), and almost all of them lead such unpredictable and tumultuous lives that their respective schedules and availability changes minute-by-minute, which effectively renders the PM system useless when any last minute change is made by the vast majority of providers. I suppose it's still a very good system to use with the less than 2-percent of providers who are reliable, organized, and sane -- but certainly NOT with the remaining 98-percent majority who are unreliable, disorganized, and psychological basket cases.
Good luck, and HAPPY HUNTING always! --SA007.
310215Do your research...
http://torrentfreak.com/vpn-providers-mull-fraudster-database-in-wake-of-lulzec-fiasco-111006/#disqus_thread.
Girls that peg.Any girls that do it pm me info. Thanks.
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