Takes A Looks
02-08-14, 18:17
Athough I'm not a Vegas Local, I feel like I am, being there so much on business. The last three times I've been in town, there has been a huge rip off scheme on Vegas BP. I had 15 BP Esc. Out call. In a row visit my room, and none were legit. They were either bait and switch or running the agency scam. The agency scam is when they pretend to be independant, then when they get to your room. And after you give them the 250 or whatever they first claim their rate is, they say that that 250 is just the agency fee, and they ask for 200-300 or more. They know they now have leverage since they already have your 250 or whatever you gave them. The bait and switch of course is when the esc that shows up is not the same one that is in the ad.
Now I'm sure there are some legit esc on BP as well, but here are some of the things you can do to avoid getting ripped off by those who are not.
Just an FYI, I think you can reduce your chances of getting ripped off by sticking with the SW scene (your car. Not going to their hotel), but taking SW to your hotel I would think would reduce the chance of ripoff as well).
On Backpage or CL esc. Outcall - when they come to your room -.
1. Peep through the door peephole and make sure its the same girl as in the ad pics. Make sure to hide your wallet and any valuables or extra cash. The only thing you should have in your pocket is the cash you planned on giving her in the first place.
2. If she is, invite her in, if not, don't even open the door. Even if they start knocking hard or making threats, just ignore.
3. So if she is the girl in the pic, you can invite her in. AND NO MATTER WHAT SHE TELLS YOU. Do not give her the cash upfront (unless you have already seen her before, or you have solid reviews on her from someone you trust) - but you can show her that you have the cash, and you can set the cash on a table or something between you and her. And you can let her know after you are done, she can take the cash!! - Even if she sits in your room for 30 minutes tryin to intimidate you to give her the cash upfront. Just don't do it... If the intimidation gets to a really bad point to where she just won't leave, or she threatens violence from her or her pimp. You can simply call hotel security as the last resort, and have her removed from your room. Remember, just because you invited her to your room from Backpage, and just because she may be wearing skimpy chlothes does not mean anything. It does not mean that you solicited her or anything else. AND ANOTHER THING to remember. Very important. Just because you invited her to your room from backpage or CL. Does not mean you owe her a penny. There is no contract in writing. If she demands the cash upfront, and you say no, there is nothing she can do. Except to intimidate you to giving her the cash upfront. And eventually she will have to leave your room anyway, whether she does on her own or with assistance from hotel security. And don't let them intimidate you on giving them a cancellation fee. The cancellation is their fault, not yours. Don't give them a single penny as you owe them nothing. They may also try to tell you that they will go to your hotel front desk and have the front desk put their fee on your hotel bill. That is simply not true and one of the funniest lies I've ever heard from a scammer or ROB. Unless you book to see a show or something through your hotel yourself, nothing else would be billed to you...One other thing to remember, a lot of scammers will ask you right away if you are a Local or Visiting. You should never admit that you are just visiting. Just by being in a hotel most of them will already assume you are visiting anyway, but you should never give them that impression. If they feel that you are a local, they may think that you will be a regular local and see them often, so they may be less likely to rip off. A Vegas ex-call girl. Turned SW. Actually told me this. But a true scammer probably won't care if you are local or not anyway. Some switch from Vegas to Cali, come and go anyway. But the key is to never give cash upfront.
Now advice on Incalls. Where you go to her.
1. Again, give her the impression you are a local. Don't wear jewlery or have anything in your pockets besides the cash you plan on giving her in the first place.
2. When she opens door, just look or peek around door. Keep door open. To make sure she is the same esc as in the ad picture.
3. If she is, you can go in and have door closed, If not just walk away.
4. So if she is legit and you go in, make sure to ask her if you can take a quick peak around to make sure no one else is in the room. If she says yeah you can, then do that, if she says no or acts like she is hiding something or someone, then just leave.
5. So if you look around and no one else is in room, make sure the front door and all doors, if its a house are locked. If the door has an indoor latch like most hotels do (the one that can only be locked or unlocked from the inside) make sure to ask her to lock the indoor latch too. If she does not want to, then simply leave. If its an apt, or house that does not have an indoor latch, make sure to be extremely cautious, because it could be a set-up and Mr. Pimp could open the door from the outside, and walk in on you while your pants are at your ankles.
6. Then before you give her cash make sure to ask her if its a flat fee, ask her twice (you can also make her aware that you know all about the agency fee scam. And that you don't play those games). If you have seen good reviews on her, or someone else you trust has recommended her you can probably give her the cash upfront. If she fumbles with your questions or does not directly answer them, then just simply leave OR tell her you can only give cash after your done. If you haven't seen reviews on her but she answers your questions directly, you could just set the cash on table between you and her, till your done.
7. I have heard stories of people getting robbed in vegas after going to an incall location. Remember on incalls there is a lot more risk for hobbyists, as mugging set-ups are easier for scammers.
8. But also remember robbery is a serious crime. Some Pimps think you won't report it because you will too embarrased to report it. But also remember this. Just because you call a Backpage girl or CL girl and go to their place, doesn't mean you solicited sex from them or did anything illegal. You could have been there for a legit massage or something like that, it just means you met them on backpage or CL and you were at their place and you got robbed. If you get robbed, You should not hesistate on reporting them and the address that they are operating at. Same as if you were to get robbed at a club or anywhere else. Don't let them get away with it.
I hope this helps fellow Mongers. Have fun and stay safe.
Now I'm sure there are some legit esc on BP as well, but here are some of the things you can do to avoid getting ripped off by those who are not.
Just an FYI, I think you can reduce your chances of getting ripped off by sticking with the SW scene (your car. Not going to their hotel), but taking SW to your hotel I would think would reduce the chance of ripoff as well).
On Backpage or CL esc. Outcall - when they come to your room -.
1. Peep through the door peephole and make sure its the same girl as in the ad pics. Make sure to hide your wallet and any valuables or extra cash. The only thing you should have in your pocket is the cash you planned on giving her in the first place.
2. If she is, invite her in, if not, don't even open the door. Even if they start knocking hard or making threats, just ignore.
3. So if she is the girl in the pic, you can invite her in. AND NO MATTER WHAT SHE TELLS YOU. Do not give her the cash upfront (unless you have already seen her before, or you have solid reviews on her from someone you trust) - but you can show her that you have the cash, and you can set the cash on a table or something between you and her. And you can let her know after you are done, she can take the cash!! - Even if she sits in your room for 30 minutes tryin to intimidate you to give her the cash upfront. Just don't do it... If the intimidation gets to a really bad point to where she just won't leave, or she threatens violence from her or her pimp. You can simply call hotel security as the last resort, and have her removed from your room. Remember, just because you invited her to your room from Backpage, and just because she may be wearing skimpy chlothes does not mean anything. It does not mean that you solicited her or anything else. AND ANOTHER THING to remember. Very important. Just because you invited her to your room from backpage or CL. Does not mean you owe her a penny. There is no contract in writing. If she demands the cash upfront, and you say no, there is nothing she can do. Except to intimidate you to giving her the cash upfront. And eventually she will have to leave your room anyway, whether she does on her own or with assistance from hotel security. And don't let them intimidate you on giving them a cancellation fee. The cancellation is their fault, not yours. Don't give them a single penny as you owe them nothing. They may also try to tell you that they will go to your hotel front desk and have the front desk put their fee on your hotel bill. That is simply not true and one of the funniest lies I've ever heard from a scammer or ROB. Unless you book to see a show or something through your hotel yourself, nothing else would be billed to you...One other thing to remember, a lot of scammers will ask you right away if you are a Local or Visiting. You should never admit that you are just visiting. Just by being in a hotel most of them will already assume you are visiting anyway, but you should never give them that impression. If they feel that you are a local, they may think that you will be a regular local and see them often, so they may be less likely to rip off. A Vegas ex-call girl. Turned SW. Actually told me this. But a true scammer probably won't care if you are local or not anyway. Some switch from Vegas to Cali, come and go anyway. But the key is to never give cash upfront.
Now advice on Incalls. Where you go to her.
1. Again, give her the impression you are a local. Don't wear jewlery or have anything in your pockets besides the cash you plan on giving her in the first place.
2. When she opens door, just look or peek around door. Keep door open. To make sure she is the same esc as in the ad picture.
3. If she is, you can go in and have door closed, If not just walk away.
4. So if she is legit and you go in, make sure to ask her if you can take a quick peak around to make sure no one else is in the room. If she says yeah you can, then do that, if she says no or acts like she is hiding something or someone, then just leave.
5. So if you look around and no one else is in room, make sure the front door and all doors, if its a house are locked. If the door has an indoor latch like most hotels do (the one that can only be locked or unlocked from the inside) make sure to ask her to lock the indoor latch too. If she does not want to, then simply leave. If its an apt, or house that does not have an indoor latch, make sure to be extremely cautious, because it could be a set-up and Mr. Pimp could open the door from the outside, and walk in on you while your pants are at your ankles.
6. Then before you give her cash make sure to ask her if its a flat fee, ask her twice (you can also make her aware that you know all about the agency fee scam. And that you don't play those games). If you have seen good reviews on her, or someone else you trust has recommended her you can probably give her the cash upfront. If she fumbles with your questions or does not directly answer them, then just simply leave OR tell her you can only give cash after your done. If you haven't seen reviews on her but she answers your questions directly, you could just set the cash on table between you and her, till your done.
7. I have heard stories of people getting robbed in vegas after going to an incall location. Remember on incalls there is a lot more risk for hobbyists, as mugging set-ups are easier for scammers.
8. But also remember robbery is a serious crime. Some Pimps think you won't report it because you will too embarrased to report it. But also remember this. Just because you call a Backpage girl or CL girl and go to their place, doesn't mean you solicited sex from them or did anything illegal. You could have been there for a legit massage or something like that, it just means you met them on backpage or CL and you were at their place and you got robbed. If you get robbed, You should not hesistate on reporting them and the address that they are operating at. Same as if you were to get robbed at a club or anywhere else. Don't let them get away with it.
I hope this helps fellow Mongers. Have fun and stay safe.