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"Can we start a thread for people whining about LEO on here?" Well, here ya go. THIS is the place for all those LEO stories, preferably quality posts with some real LEO intel that we can all benefit from. But as another example, this is the type of |thing| that should absolutely be posted HERE:
"A little over 6 months ago I pulled up to my hotel, and walked to the passenger side of the van. I started to open the door when I heard the footsteps behind me ..." The original post (-now deleted by the moderator-) continued on to relate a tale of robbery in some unknown hotel parking lot, maybe not even in Knoxville.
In short, this little story was completely unrelated to the main purpose of this board: "to provide for the exchange of information between men on the subject of finding women for sex." Tell all the LEO stories you want, but DO NOT forget this strict rule:
"Posting the names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status and / or the release dates of people who have been arrested for engaging in commercial sex activities is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.".
Green Spa on Clinton Highway was closed this week as a "public nuisance" by a court order from Judge Steve Sword.
LEO claimed to the court that spa employees had offered sex acts to undercovers for money. The same place, operating under the name "Smile Spa" was ordered permanently closed previously, but opened under a new name and owner a month later.
Quote Originally Posted by BallBuster [ViewOriginalPost]
"Its very unlikely that Uncle would set something like this up in a hotel parking lot. And it obviously didn't go down, otherwise there would have been some guests on his list. Use some common sense people."
MilfMan865 wrote (in part): Wondering about the tactics
"... Apparently they threatened him with stuff that could be used against him, so he immediately flipped and began working with them. The monger was then scheduling appointments with some of the providers suspected of being under management... " Happy Hunting, MilfMan.
Good advice about listening to your gut. The way I read the original story, the cops in the parking lot "wiring up" could have been doing anything, not just a hobby bust. Could've been a drug buy. And I don't doubt MilfMan's source, but I am very curious as to why LEO would have to 'flip' a monger to work with them (to make busts in a sting operation). They do it all the time on their own.
My general rule is to NEVER see a BP type provider unless I have read multiple reviews from trusted seniors before my date. And when working SW, if they won't immediately get in the truck, I simply drive away without saying anything. And never go to 'their spot', ever.
Ichfickemich
01-26-14, 00:45
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=787320
I found the info helpful, hope you do too.
This is a message from Jackson, THE Administrator. It has been up before on other boards. May be a good idea to post it here.
Echo
[quote]
From the desk of the master monger himself
===============================================
Hi guys,
A forum member posted to express his concerns that some reports contain too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:
1. Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information from me about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's servers are located outside of US jurisdiction, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.
Thanks, Jackson
[quote]
Of course, this information should never be used to run one's mouth off about our site to The Man (LEO), a provider, or anyone else.
Posted in general reports about a possible planned sting tomorrow Tuesday the 28th didn't realize this forum was available until after I posted check out the post and better safe than sorry.
Streetwalker busted, then The Man uses her for bait!
You WILL find this little detail of a hobby news story VERY interesting:
"is reportedly known to 'walk the streets' and get rides from men, who offer her money or narcotics for sex, the police chief said. During the operation, an undercover officer with the Crime Task Force picked her up while she was walking and she reportedly offered the officer sex for money.".
{ " She then agreed to assist the operation by wearing a recording device and 'walk the highway. ' "} (emphasis added).
"The six men at different times offered Goodman rides. Court records indicate she told the men she needed money, which reportedly prompted the men to offer money or narcotics for sex." Source is a story from oakridger. Com.
So the cops busted her, then used her for bait, yet they still charged her with promoting prostitution, WOW. Having dreamed of the girl in question (both in Oak Ridge and Oliver Springs), you can understand why these mongers took the bait. She is a really good looking 22 year old, dresses very hot, and has great tits. Lesson is: even the ones we know may be 'too hot too handle' so to speak.
Lordy, with all the heat that's on right now, this hobby is certainly harder than it has ever been before! Stay safe.
Ichfickemich
01-29-14, 13:42
LEO uses all sorts of things to hear with too, old pagers, pens, watches, taped wire and the list goes on and on. Whispers in ears are good and make sure of everything.
Streetwalker busted, then The Man uses her for bait!
You WILL find this little detail of a hobby news story VERY interesting:
"is reportedly known to 'walk the streets' and get rides from men, who offer her money or narcotics for sex, the police chief said. During the operation, an undercover officer with the Crime Task Force picked her up while she was walking and she reportedly offered the officer sex for money.".
{ " She then agreed to assist the operation by wearing a recording device and 'walk the highway. ' "} (emphasis added).
"The six men at different times offered Goodman rides. Court records indicate she told the men she needed money, which reportedly prompted the men to offer money or narcotics for sex." Source is a story from oakridger. Com.
So the cops busted her, then used her for bait, yet they still charged her with promoting prostitution, WOW. Having dreamed of the girl in question (both in Oak Ridge and Oliver Springs), you can understand why these mongers took the bait. She is a really good looking 22 year old, dresses very hot, and has great tits. Lesson is: even the ones we know may be 'too hot too handle' so to speak.
Lordy, with all the heat that's on right now, this hobby is certainly harder than it has ever been before! Stay safe..
AngeleyezMama
02-04-14, 14:58
I seen there are two people one male and one female on that list we all try to prevent from being put on. When I looked the first time the woman had the promoting charge as well but then when I just looked at it again the promoting charge was not on there so I am not sure what happened there. Just stay safe out there. Xoxo Angeleyezmama.
AngeleyezMama
02-04-14, 15:07
[Arrest/Conviction/Incarceration/Release Report deleted by Admin]
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it was a report regarding an individual who was arrested / charged / awaiting trial / convicted / awaiting sentencing / incarcerated / released / on probation for engaging in commercial sex activities or any other non-violent crime.
I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea: Posting the names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status and/or the release dates of people who have been arrested for engaging in commercial sex activities is really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.
Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status, or release dates.
Thanks!
Photoman41
02-05-14, 17:52
Curious occurrence at a local AMP on Sunday. Saw a car with an FOP tag parked outside. Checked the hood and it was still warm. When I returned a bit more than an hour later, car was still there. No other establishments were open at that location or nearby. Possibly a LEO sampling the wares, or what? Just curious.
Photoman41.
Curious occurrence at a local AMP on Sunday. Saw a car with an FOP tag parked outside. Checked the hood and it was still warm. When I returned a bit more than an hour later, car was still there. No other establishments were open at that location or nearby. Possibly a LEO sampling the wares, or what? Just curious.
Photoman41.They have needs just like the rest of us. It's common for LEO to partake and play just as we do. I Know a couple UTR's that service the fuzz. The other thing to consider is not all FOP tags are valid. Some people are lucky to get their hands on a tag and use it to get away with traffic offenses. Some are dumb enough to forget their driving around with such distinguishment.
They have needs just like the rest of us. It's common for LEO to partake and play just as we do. I Know a couple UTR's that service the fuzz. The other thing to consider is not all FOP tags are valid. Some people are lucky to get their hands on a tag and use it to get away with traffic offenses. Some are dumb enough to forget their driving around with such distinguishment.Just donate a hundred to the FOP and get a handful of stickers for you licenses plate. It may have been me at the AMP and I haven't been hassled on the stroll either.
Have a lucky day, or plan ahead.
Nick.
An interesting read with info about a frequent provider (Paula) who's now fallen on hard (er) times. A local monger thought he'd been ripped off and fired many shots into the house. Now he's been convicted on several counts of attempted murder.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2014/feb/06/man-convicted-of-attempted-murder-counts-in-spat/
Take from this what you will.
An interesting read with info about a frequent provider (Paula) who's now fallen on hard (er) times. A local monger thought he'd been ripped off and fired many shots into the house. Now he's been convicted on several counts of attempted murder.
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2014/feb/06/man-convicted-of-attempted-murder-counts-in-spat/
Take from this what you will.So am I to assume that he shot Frankenrose?
BallBuster
02-06-14, 23:19
So am I to assume that he shot Frankenrose?It was her Boyfriend and baby Daddys Mom. She needs put away for a long time. Menace to society.
So am I to assume that he shot Frankenrose?NO, the boyfriend's mother was the one injured, not P's mother. Here's from the KNS story:
"Pills in hand, prostitute Paula Dishmon made a fuss about her armed boyfriend, Norris Monholland, returning home. Moates ran to his car, only to discover that $2,000 in drug money had been stolen and to realize the whole affair might have been a setup... He grabbed his gun and wound up firing at least three shots into the house, striking Norris Monholland's mother, Linda Monholland. Moates wound up charged with five counts of attempted murder — one count for each occupant of the house.".
(SORRY, posted this now cause I didn't think about the "membership" now required to read a stinking news story online!
As if P and mother Frankenrose aren't reason enough to stay away, I can tell you that the BF mentioned (NM) is in a family group that's neighbrohoe famous for being really badasscrazy. Do a quick search on that particular name, it'll tell you all you need to know.
NO, the boyfriend's mother was the one injured, not P's mother. Here's from the KNS story:
"Pills in hand, prostitute Paula Dishmon made a fuss about her armed boyfriend, Norris Monholland, returning home. Moates ran to his car, only to discover that $2,000 in drug money had been stolen and to realize the whole affair might have been a setup... He grabbed his gun and wound up firing at least three shots into the house, striking Norris Monholland's mother, Linda Monholland. Moates wound up charged with five counts of attempted murder — one count for each occupant of the house.".
(SORRY, posted this now cause I didn't think about the "membership" now required to read a stinking news story online!
As if P and mother Frankenrose aren't reason enough to stay away, I can tell you that the BF mentioned (NM) is in a family group that's neighbrohoe famous for being really badasscrazy. Do a quick search on that particular name, it'll tell you all you need to know.Holy hell.I've never ever met her and no way in hell anybody would after the hell she's put everyone around her thru.
Speaking of Paula, her often badly reviewed doubles partner popped up on the 24 hr arrest list for an interesting VOP charge. Bad reviews aside, I'd think conspiracy to commit aggravated robbery should scare off any potential monger who does their research.
NO, the boyfriend's mother was the one injured, not P's mother. Here's from the KNS story:
"Pills in hand, prostitute Paula Dishmon made a fuss about her armed boyfriend, Norris Monholland, returning home. Moates ran to his car, only to discover that $2,000 in drug money had been stolen and to realize the whole affair might have been a setup... He grabbed his gun and wound up firing at least three shots into the house, striking Norris Monholland's mother, Linda Monholland. Moates wound up charged with five counts of attempted murder — one count for each occupant of the house.".
(SORRY, posted this now cause I didn't think about the "membership" now required to read a stinking news story online!
As if P and mother Frankenrose aren't reason enough to stay away, I can tell you that the BF mentioned (NM) is in a family group that's neighbrohoe famous for being really badasscrazy. Do a quick search on that particular name, it'll tell you all you need to know.How much worse could it be than that bunch? Maybe a KPD officer thrown into the mix? Funny and appropriate at the same time.
LoveTheMerch
02-20-14, 17:27
I am pretty sure I have pictures from the Backpage ad from Jan. 16 that was lure for the bust. Everything ads up, location, odd conversation with the "provider", and removal of the ad as soon as the busts were done. May give someone insight to keep in mind to avoid future busts.
LTM.
Couple of the ladies made the 24 hour list. They don't really look all that familiar though!
I counted six girls on the list today. There were a couple yesterday, and the day before. It looks like LEO is trying to fill the hotel. Don't ever admit to anything. It is not illegal to give a girl a ride through a bad neighborhood. Never discuss $ without seeing or touching her puss. Cops can use all kinds of bs to get you, but they can't flash vadge. Be careful.
Bigredvan 420.
S E Monger
04-12-14, 11:55
Couple of the ladies made the 24 hour list. They don't really look all that familiar though!Yep...6 ladies on 24 hour list. And several more with no charge listed. Be careful out there, men!
KnoxVegasMonger.
BallBuster
04-12-14, 18:23
Flat out Prostitution you will normally find are SW. Unfortunately promo is a class e felony and are normally the girls that they have found via an advertisement I.e. Promoting themselves as such. All the girls I seen on the list looked to be UTRs and or SW.
3 on list this morning. I've never seen an add for any of them. Assuming SW's.
JourneyMan
04-20-14, 11:21
The reason I say this is Sophie is still visiting uncle and Ashley AKA Kissy was a recent visitor with Uncle not sure what going on but its not good I smell uncover all over this.
TowTruckMan70
05-07-14, 00:08
The reason I say this is Sophie is still visiting uncle and Ashley AKA Kissy was a recent visitor with Uncle not sure what going on but its not good I smell uncover all over this.I just saw Sophie today and I am not in jail so whoever is saying she is working with LEO needs to stop unless they know what they're talking about.
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This is why we have the report post button.
A2
Got 2 on LEO's guest list today. The redhead is off-and-on with BP ads (a quick FB cross-reference confirmed the same pics). Have no clue on the blonde but she looks like one worth trying if the heat wasn't on.
Stay safe, gents.
Dr Holiday
05-09-14, 15:38
Always amazed at what else they get caught for beside promoting... Drugs seems to be number one followed by various versions of lying, cheating, stealing right behind...
LoveTheMerch
05-16-14, 06:44
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/knoxville/423-260-0743/1/2773
This was a sting ad from backpage last night. It is now removed from Backpage and 5 got busted for PatProst based on the 24 hour list.
This ad may have also been involved, but not as confident as the one above.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/knoxville/865-279-6133/1/2748
I hope none of you were on the list.
LTM.
Saw three mongers on the 24 hr report this morning, wonder if it was from BP girls ad or SW?
LoveTheMerch
05-16-14, 18:27
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/knoxville/423-260-0743/1/2773
This was a sting ad from backpage last night. It is now removed from Backpage and 5 got busted for PatProst based on the 24 hour list.
This ad may have also been involved, but not as confident as the one above.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/knoxville/865-279-6133/1/2748
I hope none of you were on the list.
LTM.To make sure the pictures of this girl are archived for future reference, I am posting here.
LoveTheMerch
05-16-14, 18:31
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/knoxville/423-260-0743/1/2773
This was a sting ad from backpage last night. It is now removed from Backpage and 5 got busted for PatProst based on the 24 hour list.
This ad may have also been involved, but not as confident as the one above.
http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/knoxville/865-279-6133/1/2748
I hope none of you were on the list.
LTM.From the other ad:
From the other ad:Thanks LM. I was going to mention this ad as being kinda sketchy as well. I'm sure that a few guy's including me owe you a big Thank You.
Grizzlyman
05-18-14, 00:46
Could this ad from BP be another sting? It just smells like bacon. Grizzly.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-beautiful-juicy-22/10397192
If anyone missed it, article up today (5/31) on crackdown of SW action.
http://www.wbir.com/story/news/local/2014/05/31/kpd-arrests-19-in-prostitution-operation/9807137/
The operative quote from the story: " . . The operations, which are planned to continue through summer in the area and others throughout the city".
Stay safe, gents.
Take a look at this news article:
Http: www. Wate. Com / story /25675383/ increased-prostitution-in-north-knoxville-prompts-businesses-to-take-action.
Now we know who has been calling out LEO and the mayor on a daily basis complaining. What an idiot. He opens a bar on Central and surprise, surprise, surprise; there are prostitutes working there. ANY bar, ANYWHERE that calls out the cops on a daily basis won't be in business for long, and deserves to go out of business.
I count at least 5 ladies of the oriental persuasion on today's guest list. A couple have charges of "impersonating a licensed professional. " Safe to assume one of the local parlors got stung.
Stay safe, gents.
*I see now this was already posted in the MP forum. Sorry for the duplicate, but then again, there's no such thing as too much info.
Anyone know why pictures are not showing the last 3-4 days on the site?
MikeHunt865
06-12-14, 21:53
Back up, much better pixel. Wow.
Skrapsbor1
06-20-14, 08:48
At least two new BP girls on the 24 hour list and a few girls charged with human trafficking. Our escort friends have a tough time since there are no reviews to look for about us mongers. Girls Please screen your guys and guys we need to make it easy for them to do it. Remember there are no stupid questions when it comes to staying out of uncles house.
Play Safe.
Skraps.
MikeHunt865
06-20-14, 16:31
Exactly what is human trafficking? I guess I'm dumb.
exactly what is human trafficking? i guess i'm dumb.it can mean anything from slavery, kidnapping to pimping **** girls or forced prostitution.
http://www.ccaht.org/ccahtvid.html
JourneyMan
06-25-14, 15:39
it can mean anything from slavery, kidnapping to pimping **** girls or forced prostitution.
http://www.ccaht.org/ccahtvid.htmlthey can level human trafficking charges against you now.
even if you the deny you didn't know what was going on even just doing the girl a favor.
if you decide to do this be very careful it can get you a lot of trouble even tho your attention is good.
GimpedChef
06-25-14, 20:25
Supreme court ruled that police can not search a persons cell phone without a warrant. So if a provider gets arrested your number may not end up in LEOs hands. I would still stick with a throw away though. That would also mean that text messages can not be used against you unless a warrant was issued before hand.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/25/justice/supreme-court-cell-phones/
Keep Safe.
GC.
Source:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2014/jul/08/four-women-and-one-man-arrested-in-prostitution/
Three women and one man were arrested Monday at a massage parlor on Chapman Highway in Sevier County, authorities said.
Arrested and charged with promoting prostitution and impersonation of a licensed professional was (the 3 females names, etc). All of Sevier County. One male (name, etc.) of Clarksville, was arrested and charged with patronizing prostitution. The raid occurred after an undercover operation at Royal Spa in Seymour revealed the women were charging patrons for sexual acts and also did not possess valid massage therapist licenses in Tennessee, officials said.
{the male} was found at the spa when deputies arrived, authorities said. All were arraigned before a magistrate and are awaiting a bond hearing before a judge. Bond and preliminary hearing information was not available.
The Sevier County Sheriff said the Sheriff's Office's Street Crimes Unit and Criminal Investigation Division were assisted by members of the Knox County Sheriff's Office Vice Unit, along with federal agents.
JizzyGillespie
07-09-14, 12:47
I read all there positive reviews last week on here and then there's a bust, coinsidence I think not.
Source: Knox News 11 July 2014.
"Authorities arrested five people, seized stolen vehicles, a stolen firearm, marijuana, cocaine and filed prostitution charges after the 1 pm Raid at 3422 Highway 92 in Rutledge, according to a news release from the Grainger County Sheriff's Office. ".
"Officers were armed with a search warrant when they entered the home. They found videos, cameras and lights "related to the prostitution operation," officers said. ".
The Sheriff was also quoted as saying information for this bust came from neighbors and backpage dot com where dozens of ads had been placed for prostitution. Both CR and this place were busted after they posted {daily} ads on BP for several weeks and / or months.
SalesMan47
07-12-14, 22:43
Source: Knox News 11 July 2014.
"Authorities arrested five people, seized stolen vehicles, a stolen firearm, marijuana, cocaine and filed prostitution charges after the 1 pm Raid at 3422 Highway 92 in Rutledge, according to a news release from the Grainger County Sheriff's Office. ".
"Officers were armed with a search warrant when they entered the home. They found videos, cameras and lights "related to the prostitution operation," officers said. ".
The Sheriff was also quoted as saying information for this bust came from neighbors and backpage dot com where dozens of ads had been placed for prostitution. Both CR and this place were busted after they posted {daily} ads on BP for several weeks and / or months.I went there but as I pulled in I remembered a post on here about listening to your inner voice and mine was telling me something was not right. I saw to many vehicles and just felt something was wrong turned around and left and glad I did. Just remember we do think with the little head but also listen to the bigger one as well.
No fewer than 6 on the list today. Easily recognize 2 (BP and previous reviews). Not a clue on the others.
Stay safe, gentlemen.
Ritchie865
08-20-14, 04:59
Heat is on. Play safe.
Not totally off-topic, but wanted to remind everyone that LEO is out in spades already for the Labor Day weekend. Went out for a quick drink tonight and saw about 8-10 in a half hour period. Until Tuesday, assume there's a cop around every corner. It's ridiculous how thick they are out there. Keep your guard up and don't take any chances. (I had 2 beers and took a cab all of 5 minutes home).
Remember: it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
Stay safe, gents.
LoveTheMerch
09-15-14, 21:11
To make sure the pictures of this girl are archived for future reference, I am posting here.Here is the last ad I posted about a bust (with pictures). There was another one of the same ilk on Jan. 16 2014. Perhaps if you look to September 12,2013 you could find bust reports. That is your first clue to finding out if there is a sting in Knoxville. They don't change their patterns and as long as they keep getting numbers, they won't change. So, we should all be safe till some Thursday in January. When they will take new pictures of the same girl with the same tattoo and the same age and the same price as they have always done. It also becomes clear that they do not read this forum very thoroughly if at all. Had they been reading it, they would have known to change their tactics. They don't have to. Or so it seems.
No one from this board should ever get busted from this ad type again.
LTM.
Sugar Squirts
11-11-14, 14:35
Here is the last ad I posted about a bust (with pictures). There was another one of the same ilk on Jan. 16 2014. Perhaps if you look to September 12,2013 you could find bust reports. That is your first clue to finding out if there is a sting in Knoxville. They don't change their patterns and as long as they keep getting numbers, they won't change. So, we should all be safe till some Thursday in January. When they will take new pictures of the same girl with the same tattoo and the same age and the same price as they have always done. It also becomes clear that they do not read this forum very thoroughly if at all. Had they been reading it, they would have known to change their tactics. They don't have to. Or so it seems.
No one from this board should ever get busted from this ad type again.
LTM.I'm glad to have come across this posting since when I typically post an ad I don't switch it up and I usually use the same picture as well no wonder I'm not getting many hits! It's been frustrating, but at least I have an answer now.
FranklinStein
11-19-14, 18:40
Dredged from a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore, here are some tips on how to look suspicious to staff at a hotel or motel. They really do train employees to watch for this stuff and a few bullet points apply to monger behavior*.
What Should I Consider Suspicious?
Guests who:
Request specific room assignments or locations.*
Use cash for large transactions or a credit card in someone else's name.*
Arrive with unusual amounts of luggage.*
Make unusual inquiries about local sites, including government, military, police, communications, and power facilities.
Refuse cleaning service over an extended time.*
Use entrances and exits that avoid the lobby.*
Abandon a room and leave behind clothing and toiletry items.
Do not leave their room.
Change their appearance.
Leave the property for several days and then return.
Thefts of official vehicles, uniforms, identification, and access cards.
Reports of guest rooms with burn marks or discoloration on the walls or door.
Unusual odors or liquids seeping from a guest room.
Unusual amounts of traffic.*
Discovery of unusual items in guest rooms or facility dumpsters.
Fertilizer or agricultural products.
Chemicals or chemical containers.
Fuel or fuel containers.
Weapons, ammunition, and explosives.
Extremist training manuals or literature.
Fraudulent credit cards or documents.
Parked vehicles in isolated areas.*
It is important to remember that just because someone's speech, actions, beliefs, appearance, or way of life is different, it does not mean that he or she is suspicious.
"Friday Afternoon Stroll: Nothing out to speak of, LEO was out in force & it looks like they had an army of social workers with them. They were stopped under the bridge on Central just up from the bus station talking to Riley, and they were in full force at the convenience stores on Baxter at 275. . . ".
Good observation. The BAD news is theres now a massive LEO effort at 'human trafficking' along with a shiny new task force thing that includes state investigators unit + the fbi. Add the social worker types to help. Ex; someone posted about a bunch of busts last week at the bristol race, that was surely part of it. Guess the fed-grants money theyll throw at them make all this worth it to The Man.
Other info is posted about a 'cleanup' of the strolls around central. The investors around there are pushing it, it mostly started with the newer bar near the health department clinic. There's been quite a few news stories about the 'problems' a few working girls walking on the sidewalks are causing such distress to the business owners. The message is as if / if you want to come into their bar and spend money, then it's ok to take home the hooker that's working in the bar. Amazing.
I wasn't really sure where to place this. This did not occur in our town, but a great example of how to protect the innocent, while maintaining freedom for consenting adults.
http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_28858381/13-men-charged-woodbury-sex-stings
This was sent to me as a reply from an ad. I think someone is either pissed that am back or this is a scam. It said that I waas charged in may of 2015. #1 that is bullshit, I have never been arrested and #2 my phone has not rang today other than people I already know. So be careful everyone.
From: KCSO@knoxsheriff.org.
We tried contacting you today by phone and have logged the calls. We are trying to reach you regarding a possible Promotion Of Prostitution charge from May 2015. Call 8652152444 reference case BP52015 DW.
To view this posting, please click the following link:
http://knoxville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-bh-is-back-luscious-lexie-i-am-taking-bookings-for-next-weekset-ahead-of-time/11295364
This person has contacted you anonymously through knoxville. backpage.com. If you believe their email is a scam, spam, or inappropriate, please forward this email to.
This was sent to me as a reply from an ad. I think someone is either pissed that am back or this is a scam. It said that I waas charged in may of 2015. #1 that is bullshit, I have never been arrested and #2 my phone has not rang today other than people I already know. So be careful everyone.
From: KCSO@knoxsheriff.org.
We tried contacting you today by phone and have logged the calls. We are trying to reach you regarding a possible Promotion Of Prostitution charge from May 2015. Call 8652152444 reference case BP52015 DW.
To view this posting, please click the following link:
http://knoxville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-bh-is-back-luscious-lexie-i-am-taking-bookings-for-next-weekset-ahead-of-time/11295364
This person has contacted you anonymously through knoxville. backpage.com. If you believe their email is a scam, spam, or inappropriate, please forward this email to.Even if the Sheriff's office was contacting you via email, which seems very doubtful, their true email address would be with a .Gov address, not a .Org address. Whoever did send that to you committed a felony of impersonating a law enforcement officer. Keep a print out of it. If you run into trouble yourself, use it. LEO really gets pissed about people impersonating them.
Thank yoy ffor the help dear, just never seen or heard of one of these before. Just a little curious.
Even if the Sheriff's office was contacting you via email, which seems very doubtful, their true email address would be with a .Gov address, not a .Org address. Whoever did send that to you committed a felony of impersonating a law enforcement officer. Keep a print out of it. If you run into trouble yourself, use it. LEO really gets pissed about people impersonating them.
This was sent to me as a reply from an ad. I think someone is either pissed that am back or this is a scam. It said that I waas charged in may of 2015. #1 that is bullshit, I have never been arrested and #2 my phone has not rang today other than people I already know. So be careful everyone.
From: KCSO@knoxsheriff.org.
We tried contacting you today by phone and have logged the calls. We are trying to reach you regarding a possible Promotion Of Prostitution charge from May 2015. Call 8652152444 reference case BP52015 DW.
To view this posting, please click the following link:
http://knoxville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-bh-is-back-luscious-lexie-i-am-taking-bookings-for-next-weekset-ahead-of-time/11295364
This person has contacted you anonymously through knoxville. backpage.com. If you believe their email is a scam, spam, or inappropriate, please forward this email to.There are some vicious people out there or you really pissed someone off. Agree I highly doubt there is anything ligitimate here, but can scar people non-the-less which they wanted to do.
GiselleBelle69
10-20-15, 18:30
Even if the Sheriff's office was contacting you via email, which seems very doubtful, their true email address would be with a .Gov address, not a .Org address. Whoever did send that to you committed a felony of impersonating a law enforcement officer. Keep a print out of it. If you run into trouble yourself, use it. LEO really gets pissed about people impersonating them.I had the same thing happened to me about a month ago. Mine said it was from the Alcoa Police Department because that's the area I was in It basically said if I did not turn myself and they would come to me I ignored it and nothing has came from it, But I did change areas just to be safe. Better to be safe than sorry!
The email addy is CORRECT. The number is CORRECT. I know a few MORE ladies, who have received the very same things, calls and emails, within the past WEEK. Clearly, this site has MANY jailhouse lawyers. Wait, I mean ignorant fucks.
Boys and girls, beware! A flood of money has come into the system. These folks are now looking to add FEDERAL charges. Read more money. More money means more manpower. They are looking for a return on the taxpayer's money. The measure is charges and convictions, resulting in more money coming into the system, although exogenously versus endogeneously. The law is grey. Take advantage of this. You have been warned.
This was sent to me as a reply from an ad. I think someone is either pissed that am back or this is a scam. It said that I waas charged in may of 2015. #1 that is bullshit, I have never been arrested and #2 my phone has not rang today other than people I already know. So be careful everyone.
From: KCSO@knoxsheriff.org.
We tried contacting you today by phone and have logged the calls. We are trying to reach you regarding a possible Promotion Of Prostitution charge from May 2015. Call 8652152444 reference case BP52015 DW.
To view this posting, please click the following link:
http://knoxville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/the-bh-is-back-luscious-lexie-i-am-taking-bookings-for-next-weekset-ahead-of-time/11295364
This person has contacted you anonymously through knoxville. backpage.com. If you believe their email is a scam, spam, or inappropriate, please forward this email to.
I think someone is either jealous or intimidated. It don't matter to me either way. I stay in my own bubble and don't feel the need to help people drum up drama. I want everyone to be happy around me and have fun. I am happy with who I am and happy in life. If people have to lower their intellectual level and mess with me to make themselves feel better about who they are, then so be it. I will remain my happy, saucy self. Have a great night and play safe. Luscious Lexie.
There are some vicious people out there or you really pissed someone off. Agree I highly doubt there is anything ligitimate here, but can scar people non-the-less which they wanted to do.
These are warning shots across the bow. They are to let you know that you are on the radar. These are the brazen aspects of law enforcement, such as when people in white vehilces come to make narcotic buys. Well dumbass, was the all white vehicle not a sign? Similarly, the calls and emails are warning shots to let people know that they are on the radar. As I have always said, you can always play and stay within the law. However, I have seen many, many statements of laws being broken on this site. Learn the law, and work with it.
I had the same thing happened to me about a month ago. Mine said it was from the Alcoa Police Department because that's the area I was in It basically said if I did not turn myself and they would come to me I ignored it and nothing has came from it, But I did change areas just to be safe. Better to be safe than sorry!
Even if the Sheriff's office was contacting you via email, which seems very doubtful, their true email address would be with a .Gov address, not a .Org address. Whoever did send that to you committed a felony of impersonating a law enforcement officer. Keep a print out of it. If you run into trouble yourself, use it. LEO really gets pissed about people impersonating them.Not necessarily. . GOV was originally reserved for the federal government. And anyone can apply for a. ORG address. Knoxsheriff. Org appears to be their web site, so it's quite possibly legit.
Now whether the mail was actually sent by them, that's a different question. It's easy to forge email, and it doesn't require any special tools. An expert can look at the raw email message and detect obvious forgeries, but most people don't know how to do that. So the person who sent the message could have been legitimately representing the sheriff, or could have been trolling. Then again, if they really wanted to make a case out of it, they wouldn't rely on email as a way to get in touch.
Just another opportunity to use the newest catch-phrase of 'human trafficking'.
https://reason.com/blog/2015/10/15/fbi-sponsors-operation-cross-country-ix
MilfMan865
10-31-15, 10:29
Stings on Magnolia Avenue: http://wate.com/2015/10/31/6-men-arrested-after-kpd-prostitution-sting/.
Be smart and safe.
Milfman.
Didn't see any of the names listed on the 24 hour list. So wondering if this sting was conducted this morning, or if the system hasn't been updated?The news does say brother mongers were 'taken into police custody' -- but that's probably intended misleading. In the past the girls get arrested, while the men get some stuck with some kind of a appearance ticket and let go. Still have to be booked and stuff, but they do it by turning themself in at the jail later (and there's no difference in the outcome).
That being said, with the state and fed uncles doing these things now (they love the catch word: "human trafficking") that will probably change. Stay safe.
Your Highness
11-01-15, 17:47
Apparently, police can delay charging the johns in prostitution stings. According to this article, first posted by Noelle:
http://www.twincities.com/crime/ci_28858381/13-men-charged-woodbury-sex-stings
"Washington County Attorney Pete Orput held off charging the men involved in the first two stings because law enforcement wanted to do another sting as part of the investigation, he said. ".
Here is the guy taking pics! His Facebook group is Knoxville Crime and he bans anyone who criticizes or doesn't agree with him and his minions. Easiest to join and watch and gather intel. I'm working on his vehicle so people knows what he drives. One pic is from his convict days and then a pic now that he is older.Somebody complained about his 'copyrighted' pics and threatened to sue him. This is his response:
John Messner: Sue me, I got nothing. I have no job and no bank account. I don't own a car worth much, both are over 17 years old and I don't have money. Even if by some lucky chance you would even get a judgement...I ain't got nothing. Shit, I'm still trying to get enough money together for next months rent. (October 19 at 10:30am)
Maybe he's trying to make his entire living off of taking silly pictures from now on. Interesting.
Somebody complained about his 'copyrighted' pics and threatened to sue him. This is his response:
John Messner: Sue me, I got nothing. I have no job and no bank account. I don't own a car worth much, both are over 17 years old and I don't have money. Even if by some lucky chance you would even get a judgement...I ain't got nothing. Shit, I'm still trying to get enough money together for next months rent. (October 19 at 10:30am)
Maybe he's trying to make his entire living off of taking silly pictures from now on. Interesting.Fortunately, I don't bother with SW's at all. But he's going to piss off the wrong person and end up with a lot less than nothing. He's a huge target and there are some bad people out there on the street.
ThermoNuclear
05-26-16, 08:16
There's a good thread on Reddit discussing the recent sting nabbing "two pastors" and such:
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/4kz1af/child_sex_sting_nets_two_tennessee_pastors/
MilfMan865
06-11-16, 10:18
BP advertiser on The 24 Hour List. Look in the Dubya section.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
MilfMan865
07-11-16, 01:13
BP Advertiser on the 24 Hour List. Search based on initials SAH.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
MilfMan865
07-14-16, 07:56
BP Advertisers on The 24 Hour List (13-JUL-2016). Search for initials MRU and DJW so far, but based on the pattern, it is inevitable that other names will pop up over the next few days. LEO did a news conference outlining the approach to how they conduct such stings. While many esteemed citizens have gotten off of the couch because of Pokemon Go, it looks like LEO is out-and-about busy conducting a sting (massage-oriented so far). Just another reminder for providers to be diligent in all areas of their business (a "LEO check" is ficticious, c'mon) and for mongers to think with their big head. Look at the patterns.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
Their catchword is "human trafficking". These dudes that keep wanting underage girls are going to kill this hobby. This why I avoid websites (especially BP) like the plague.
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/05/tbi-arrests-41-individuals-connected-human-trafficking/88290964/
The sad thing is, the political lure of federal money is what's driving this nonsense.... our adult hobby has ZERO to do with true 'human trafficking' of children - it's such a ridiculous farce. Too bad that good people like so-sweet Jilly Bean are getting caught up in it. |rant over|
Their catchword is "human trafficking". These dudes that keep wanting underage girls are going to kill this hobby. This why I avoid websites (especially BP) like the plague.
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2016/08/05/tbi-arrests-41-individuals-connected-human-trafficking/88290964/
The sad thing is, the political lure of federal money is what's driving this nonsense.... our hobby really has ZERO to do with true 'human trafficking' of children - it's such a ridiculous farce. Too bad that good people like so-sweet Jilly Bean are getting caught up in it. |rant over|Here's there blog article with more details.
https://tbinews.wordpress.com/2016/08/05/41-arrested-in-nashville-human-trafficking-operation/
Notice how NONE of the people arrested in a "Human Trafficking" operation are actually charged with Human Trafficking.
MilfMan865
08-14-16, 12:16
Consider there may be a lot of ladies who operate hair salons. It is evident they should be licensed to do so, but let's consider that these ladies specialize in Perms. We're not talking about basic Perms, these are the extravagant Perms that leave their customers so happy that they wouldn't consider going to a basic hair salon any more. We'll call the providers Perm Girls, who provide specialized Perms that leave their customers happy.
Over a period of time, the Hair Salon Vice Squad notices that there are a lot of bald dudes going into the Perm places. It looks like the pockets in their cargo pants are bulging at the seams, but when they leave the Perm place, their pockets appear empty. What was in their pockets? Some bald dudes actually enter the establishment empty handed and leave with bags of materials. Perhaps materials that help them maintain a Perm? These guys are still bald, heads as smooth and shiny as a cue ball. Low and behold, all over town, a lot of bald dudes are in possession of alleged Perm maintenance materials. Not only bald dudes, but ladies who don't have a Perm are in possession of Perm maintenance materials. Those products are getting misused and are actually illegal to possess. Many people are trying so hard to maintain the Perms that they don't have, they are overdosing on the Perm maintenance products. Stories about people passed out in their cars, Perm materials all over their car. This creates a precarious situation in which many areas of society are impacted.
The Hair Salon Vice Squad knows that those materials have to make it to the street from somewhere. The normal distribution channels are coming up empty, so there must be a paradigm shift in the distribution network. Their reasoning (both inductive and deductive) suggests the materials are likely being funneled through the Perm Girls. What if those bald dudes are working with the Perm girls to ensure that Perm maintenance make it to the masses? The Hair Salon Vice Squad would be remiss not to check that out since the result is a scourge on society. It is their job to investigate that type of activity to the fullest extent. The Perms should get ready for a lot of freshly shaved heads of undercover agents of the Hair Salon Vice Squad to pay them a visit to see what's happening. Those undercover Hair Salon Vice Squad agents may not find what they seek, but they can turn the lives of the Perm girls upside. Keep in mind that the Perm girls are still acting as though they have a license to provide Perms, that's illegal, so they are subject to fines, fees, and reputation damage if apprehended on even a misdemeanor. The Hair Salon Vice Squad doesn't care one iota about the type of Perm provided, it's all about those Perm maintenance materials that may be being funneled through her establishment.
Now consider that the Perm Girls could be Body Rub Girls or any other type provider on the fringes. Consider that the Perm maintenance materials are any illicit items (e.g., Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals) that are illegal, highly addictive, and foster a certain criminal element. Consider that you've read this far and none of this make sense .,., sorry not sorry .,., for dragging you down this mental rabbit hole.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
InFromBehind
08-14-16, 14:35
Consider there may be a lot of ladies who operate hair salons. It is evident they should be licensed to do so, but let's consider that these ladies specialize in Perms. We're not talking about basic Perms, these are the extravagant Perms that leave their customers so happy that they wouldn't consider going to a basic hair salon any more. We'll call the providers Perm Girls, who provide specialized Perms that leave their customers happy.
Over a period of time, the Hair Salon Vice Squad notices that there are a lot of bald dudes going into the Perm places. It looks like the pockets in their cargo pants are bulging at the seams, but when they leave the Perm place, their pockets appear empty. What was in their pockets? Some bald dudes actually enter the establishment empty handed and leave with bags of materials. Perhaps materials that help them maintain a Perm? These guys are still bald, heads as smooth and shiny as a cue ball. Low and behold, all over town, a lot of bald dudes are in possession of alleged Perm maintenance materials. Not only bald dudes, but ladies who don't have a Perm are in possession of Perm maintenance materials. Those products are getting misused and are actually illegal to possess. Many people are trying so hard to maintain the Perms that they don't have, they are overdosing on the Perm maintenance products. Stories about people passed out in their cars, Perm materials all over their car. This creates a precarious situation in which many areas of society are impacted.
The Hair Salon Vice Squad knows that those materials have to make it to the street from somewhere. The normal distribution channels are coming up empty, so there must be a paradigm shift in the distribution network. Their reasoning (both inductive and deductive) suggests the materials are likely being funneled through the Perm Girls. What if those bald dudes are working with the Perm girls to ensure that Perm maintenance make it to the masses? The Hair Salon Vice Squad would be remiss not to check that out since the result is a scourge on society. It is their job to investigate that type of activity to the fullest extent. The Perms should get ready for a lot of freshly shaved heads of undercover agents of the Hair Salon Vice Squad to pay them a visit to see what's happening. Those undercover Hair Salon Vice Squad agents may not find what they seek, but they can turn the lives of the Perm girls upside. Keep in mind that the Perm girls are still acting as though they have a license to provide Perms, that's illegal, so they are subject to fines, fees, and reputation damage if apprehended on even a misdemeanor. The Hair Salon Vice Squad doesn't care one iota about the type of Perm provided, it's all about those Perm maintenance materials that may be being funneled through her establishment.
Now consider that the Perm Girls could be Body Rub Girls or any other type provider on the fringes. Consider that the Perm maintenance materials are any illicit items (e.g., Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals) that are illegal, highly addictive, and foster a certain criminal element. Consider that you've read this far and none of this make sense .,., sorry not sorry .,., for dragging you down this mental rabbit hole.
Stay safe,
Milfman.This just made me want to get a topless hair cut. Anyone know where I could find such?
"Police were conducting a reverse prostitution operation by posting on Backpage.com under the escorts section. " . . .
Names and pics on the websites:
http://wate.com/2016/08/19/9-charged-in-knox-knoxville-hotel-prostitution-bust/.
http://www.local8now.com/content/news/9-Arrested-in-undercover-sting-390742002.html.
http://www.wbir.com/news/crime/knox-county-vice-unit-arrests-nine-in-prostitution-sting/303019501.
Note the men were |arrested|... no more gettin' tickets.
Hope no USASG members are on that list -- we've been talking about the BP stings for months. Maybe somebody smart can figure out BP ad that got them mongers?
"Police were conducting a reverse prostitution operation by posting on Backpage.com under the escorts section. " . . .
Names and pics on the websites:
http://wate.com/2016/08/19/9-charged-in-knox-knoxville-hotel-prostitution-bust/.
http://www.local8now.com/content/news/9-Arrested-in-undercover-sting-390742002.html.
http://www.wbir.com/news/crime/knox-county-vice-unit-arrests-nine-in-prostitution-sting/303019501.
Note the men were |arrested|... no more gettin' tickets.
Hope no USASG members are on that list -- we've been talking about the BP stings for months. Maybe somebody smart can figure out BP ad that got them mongers?Shame about the one. Had her on my short list. But am I wrong in thinking the pattern is holding? Always on a Thursday.
"Police were conducting a reverse prostitution operation by posting on Backpage.com under the escorts section. " . . .
At least they didn't call it a "Human Trafficking Operation", right?
From the desk of the master monger himself:
A forum member posted to express his concerns that some reports contain too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:
1. Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's servers are located outside of US jurisdiction, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.
>This should answer frequent posted concerns about how we are 'fret with liability'. . . Of course, none of this information should ever be used as an excuse to run one's mouth off about this site to The Man (LEO), a provider, nor |anyone| else.
"Rule #1: Don't talk about fight club."
'senior mongers only'
Posts advertising for a supposed 'new site for senior members only' went up (in several cities) a little while ago. Those posts have now been removed. If you happened to bookmark that advertised site before the posts were removed, I wouldn't dare go into it. For more info on USASG safety, see the post below.
MilfMan865
08-20-16, 23:34
Highly-reviewed BP advertiser on the 24 Hour List. Look for initials CBJ (no pun intended). If you don't see the ad in time, check one of the many list archives.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
From the desk of the master monger himself:
A forum member posted to express his concerns that some reports contain too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:
1. Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.
2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's servers are located outside of US jurisdiction, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.
>This should answer frequent posted concerns about how we are 'fret with liability'. . . Of course, none of this information should ever be used as an excuse to run one's mouth off about this site to The Man (LEO), a provider, nor |anyone| else.
"Rule #1: Don't talk about fight club."I agree with all except #2. How do you know that a member hasn't been detained from information learned on here? I. E. A specific location and time of a walker. I know they can't use it in court but who is to say the LEO just doesn't happen "to stroll by" said location at said time and bingo look what I found. Just saying. Again I know they can't use any info in court but they can say I was just driving by and happened to see this.
I agree with all except #2. How do you know that a member hasn't been detained from information learned on here? I. E. A specific location and time of a walker. I know they can't use it in court but who is to say the LEO just doesn't happen "to stroll by" said location at said time and bingo look what I found. Just saying. Again I know they can't use any info in court but they can say I was just driving by and happened to see this.It's a question of tense hoss. If you are using the forum as it was intended, read about hookers, go fuck hookers, write about fucking hookers, rinse and repeat. (ok maybe rinse before you do the writing but you get the point) then where is LEO going to get his time machine to GO BACK IN TIME to when and where you said you fucked the hooker? I mean how else is he going to just be "strolling by" unless you came of the forum BEFORE you fucked said hooker and posted "ok I'm going to 1313 Cemetery Lane so I can fuck Morticia (I don't give a fuck, she's fucking hot) at midnight on the 13th? If a guy is that stupid then when he gets busted it's just Darwin being right again.
Drops mic
A2
Oh yeah, we know because that shit woulda been in all the papers and then all over the forum if it had ever happened.
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And now you get it again. Common sense isn't so common. Cops already know where the chicks are working, they know the notels, when the bosses say "bust hookers" they bust hookers.
For you my friend, if you don't want to start all over with a new user name I suggest you stop posting this horseshit. Guys have been saying this since the second day we have been open and it's still not happening.
Three strikes and you're out.
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MilfMan865
08-27-16, 20:57
BP advertiser on the 24 Hour List. Look for initials KMH. If you don't see the listing in time, check one of the many list archives.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
MilfMan865
08-28-16, 13:49
She made the front page in sevierville.
http://www.themountainpress.com/news/woman-arrested-for-prostitution/article_fd84ef9c-acc9-551e-9b81-61b05e133879.html
Following up on the initial notice. The BP provider professes a Kim K booty, stellar reviews on the the board, search the Backpage Advertiser Reviews thread for Sierra Alpha Sierra Hotel Alpha. Use your social media search for additional information.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
MilfMan865
08-30-16, 09:32
I will no longer be making references and associations to the KCSO 24 Hour List (or other lists) and providers. Although subtly and discreetly, referencing folks on that list adds to the problem of embarrassment at a minimum. I could have received infractions for it in retrospect, but corrective course of action is necessary. I have witnessed numerous folks. ,. , folks I respect, appreciate, and would go to battle with. ,. , have their lives turned upside down by being arrested for one thing or another (often having it wiped from their record). I don't want to add to anyone's embarrassment related to an arrest for "engaging in commercial sex activities or any other non-violent crime".
Another reason is the following forum editor's guidance:
Posting the names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status and/or the release dates of people who have been arrested for engaging in commercial sex activities is really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.
Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status, or release dates.
Respectfully,
Milfman.
The Human Trafficking charges come later with more information discerned in the investigations and who is applying the heat. Remember, you can be charged with almost anything with just a little bit of INTENT shown. Follow the money. Federal court is so much more profitable.
Here's there blog article with more details.
https://tbinews.wordpress.com/2016/08/05/41-arrested-in-nashville-human-trafficking-operation/
Notice how NONE of the people arrested in a "Human Trafficking" operation are actually charged with Human Trafficking.
SpurMonster1
09-13-16, 20:39
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This one is working with uncle LEO. Back in May I visited her at Motel 6 off of C. Bluff. I go in the room and we start to get down to business. We are both naked and she gets a text. So she stops working my gear and starts fucking texting. Then comes a loud pounding on the door and she starts to act like she's startled (horrible acting job). She goes to the door as I quickly put my boxers on and in walks Uncle LEO. He asked me my name then says "that's not who this room is registered to. You're trespassing". He leads her to the bathroom and then handcuffs me and takes me outside. He questions me for approximately 5 min and tells me it's my lucky day and unlocked me. I said "what about my fucking money, not like I got any bang for my buck" . Then he looks at me and says " I told you that it's your lucky day & I won't tell you again, so understand what I mean". So I left and got the hell out of there. I'm pretty sure she had to split the dough with Uncle. I hope the motherfucker choked on his goddamn doughnut.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/available-for-you/16721173
MilfMan865
09-29-16, 14:54
A Knoxville sting operation targeting mongers appears to be going on as of 29-SEP-2016. Just a reminder to be diligent in your vetting process, especially when visiting a new provider or a "familiar" provider who hasn't been on the scene for a while.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
A Knoxville sting operation targeting mongers appears to be going on as of 29-SEP-2016. Just a reminder to be diligent in your vetting process, especially when visiting a new provider or a "familiar" provider who hasn't been on the scene for a while.
Stay safe,
Milfman.Thank you.
I just received a suspected text from out of the blue. I'll pass on that one and play safe today with a known UTR.
Have fun my brothers.
Callmecrazy
09-29-16, 18:44
I reckon this could be it. http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/wild-crazy-freaky-blonde-lets-have-some-fun-together-fetish-friendly/18995588.
Vol Man6203
09-29-16, 19:44
See their Facebook page. 7 arrested including a couple nasty guys. 3 federal agents with Homeland Security participated. Also said area motels request their help to stop this illegal activity.
https://m.facebook.com/knoxsheriff/posts/922492497856148
Liketoplay
09-29-16, 19:53
A Knoxville sting operation targeting mongers appears to be going on as of 29-SEP-2016. Just a reminder to be diligent in your vetting process, especially when visiting a new provider or a "familiar" provider who hasn't been on the scene for a while.
Stay safe,
Milfman.Wow just wow.
InItForFun
09-29-16, 21:58
See their Facebook page. 7 arrested including a couple nasty guys. 3 federal agents with Homeland Security participated. Also said area motels request their help to stop this illegal activity.
https://m.facebook.com/knoxsheriff/posts/922492497856148Good for the 73 yr old guy who was arrested too. If at 73 he is still chasing tail, I might would have thrown his bail if I had known.
More about the war on 'human trafficking'....
(just posting information, not an argument for/against TOR)
This article is actually about child porn (not just mongering), but it is an interesting read about LEO investigative tactics, specifically how the FBI conducted a nationwide sting operation by using the computer server of an internet website... guy here was a funeral director in Rockwood.
Summary:
The FBI recently busted 180+ men on child porn charges who were members of a site called "The Playpen" -- which according to the FBI "operates on the dark web, an encrypted network using hidden servers. Site visitors use the anonymous browsing tool Tor, which hides the user's Internet protocol, or IP, address." (AND) "The FBI wound up arresting the Florida man who served as administrator and seized his server from a location in North Carolina."
Source: http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2016/10/14/knoxville-federal-judge-rules-fbi-tactics-flawed-porn-case/92051034/.
Even though this 'search' may be found unconstitutional, some of the material they gathered may still be admissible thru the "good faith exception"... better read that again!
Seems if they get the server, the browser being used don't matter. Maybe the real lesson here is that the server was located in North Carolina. Luckily, our USASG manual says: "the Forum's servers are located outside of US jurisdiction, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system"...
MilfMan865
10-16-16, 13:37
Seems if they get the server, the browser being used don't matter. Maybe the real lesson here is that the server was located in North Carolina. Luckily, our USASG manual says: "the Forum's servers are located outside of US jurisdiction, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system"...Excellent and concise job in not only laying out the issues in the case and what went wrong technically, but correlating that to what USASG has done to eliminate that risk. You more tech savvy members would need to comment on the shortfalls of whether full-disk encryption was used on the server and other elements that would have helped for the server hosting the information.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
Member #6269
10-30-16, 08:00
Greetings,
I have a question regarding how ads are worded, and possible signs that they may NOT be LEO. Not sure I can or should ask publicly. [Deleted by Admin]
Let me help you, yes, you can so ask away.
If any asshole gives you shit for asking a question then report the post or PM. They don't have to answer if they don't want to, nothing says they have to, but there is nothing in the rules that says new guys can't ask questions.
A2
Winston1984
10-30-16, 16:24
Things that make me comfortable and ready to slip off into dreamland are multiple reviews. Ads on multiple sites are better. But nothing is foolproof. Of course the other side of the coin is, if she has to run multiple adds on multiple sites instead of relying on regulars / repeat business there may be a reason. I guess the sweet-spot would be a character in your dream that was in the process of building up a base or regulars. So someone who had run adds for months but not years. Eventually seasoned veterans will expect you to give back and TOFTT. But at 5 posts you are still asking for free info and annoying those senior to me. But don't expect a magic bullet, if the add says exactly this or not say that. New adds will occasionally snag a monger, but usually this is discovered and reported in a few days.
Advertiser on the list today under "are" - charges are not hobby related but are of a nature that I'm crossing her off my potential list. Feel free to PM if she's no longer on there.
I can't get around the single letter filter. Last name is under the letter that comes after queue and before ess.
MutualRespect
01-16-17, 02:46
I've edited the below from this site: http://www.policemag.com/blog/women-in-law-enforcement/story/2012/07/officer-safety-concerns-on-john-stings1.aspx.
The undercover (UC) officer must blend into the crowd, as well as lead the conversation in a safe and lawful way.
In conversations with a target, how far can the UC go before a defense attorney can use an entrapment defense? That's the key to a good UC operative, the business transaction must be suggested and led by the john. He or she should name the specific sexual act and cost when talking to the UC.
Simple questions to the john should lead the conversation in the right direction. Here are several things to say:
What do you want today?
Tell me what you need.
What kind of date do you want?
These questions lead to specifics without leading the john. The cost of a "trick" seals the deal as far as making a case, so it's important to let the john name his or her offer. Again, simple questions frame the john's response.
How much is that worth to you?
What would you pay for that?
Like any other encounter with a suspect, maintain a reaction gap between you and the john, so you can quickly move to protect yourself or escape a grab. Nothing's for free with working prostitutes, so keeping a distance between you and the john shouldn't arouse suspicion.
I've edited the below from this site: http://www.policemag.com/blog/women-in-law-enforcement/story/2012/07/officer-safety-concerns-on-john-stings1.aspx.
The undercover (UC) officer must blend into the crowd, as well as lead the conversation in a safe and lawful way.
In conversations with a target, how far can the UC go before a defense attorney can use an entrapment defense? That's the key to a good UC operative, the business transaction must be suggested and led by the john. He or she should name the specific sexual act and cost when talking to the UC.
Simple questions to the john should lead the conversation in the right direction. Here are several things to say:
What do you want today?
Tell me what you need.
What kind of date do you want?
These questions lead to specifics without leading the john. The cost of a "trick" seals the deal as far as making a case, so it's important to let the john name his or her offer. Again, simple questions frame the john's response.
How much is that worth to you?
What would you pay for that?
Like any other encounter with a suspect, maintain a reaction gap between you and the john, so you can quickly move to protect yourself or escape a grab. Nothing's for free with working prostitutes, so keeping a distance between you and the john shouldn't arouse suspicion.I'm sure the new trafficking crackdown allows the LEO to deviate from this. And if not, I think some LEO do not really care to bend the rules, after all, the damage is really done in the arrest. Being splattered all over the paper, having to call the SO for bail, your work relations tarnished. It would not matter if the charges are tossed or not. . damage is done. So. Research research research. One way would be to walk in and announce I just need a massage. . . I'm pretty sure if its a LEO, she not going to start rubbing your hairy back HAHAHAAH. If she does. . . Well she may be legit.
I'm sure the new trafficking crackdown allows the LEO to deviate from this. And if not, I think some LEO do not really care to bend the rules, after all, the damage is really done in the arrest. Being splattered all over the paper, having to call the SO for bail, your work relations tarnished. It would not matter if the charges are tossed or not. . damage is done. So. Research research research. One way would be to walk in and announce I just need a massage. . . I'm pretty sure if its a LEO, she not going to start rubbing your hairy back HAHAHAAH. If she does. . . Well she may be legit.In my situation the undercover got totally naked, yes I saw his ducky doodle, I did half the massage, never took money, when he asked if I would do extras I said no. It didn't matter, they were going to get me and make an example of me. LEO can do whatever they want. They don't have rules. Their goal is to make money off you, shame you, and make themselves look like they're everyone's hero for cleaning up the town when in reality they need to focus on true criminals. It's a victimless crime. They want to put girls in jail for doing massages and relaxing people. This is our America.
In my situation the undercover got totally naked, yes I saw his ducky doodle, I did half the massage, never took money, when he asked if I would do extras I said no. It didn't matter, they were going to get me and make an example of me. LEO can do whatever they want. They don't have rules. Their goal is to make money off you, shame you, and make themselves look like they're everyone's hero for cleaning up the town when in reality they need to focus on true criminals. It's a victimless crime. They want to put girls in jail for doing massages and relaxing people. This is our America.Last summer a provider claimed a detective had full sex with her.
Next day they busted her in the hotel room and she went to jail.
Another provider i met in Minneapolis said they charged her with a felony of "self promoting"!
No rules is right.
That's why I always tell the girls.
Get a lawyer on retainer.
As soon as it start to go south lawyer up.
Do not talk. Don't let them try and scare you into any negotiating.
Say nothing but "I want to talk to my lawyer!".
They're fucking liers.
Sweetheart, This is not personally directed to you. Let's examine the facts for a charge to lead to conviction.
True:
In my situation the undercover got totally naked, yes I saw his ducky doodle.
I did half the massage.
False:
Never took money.
When he asked if I would do extras I said no.
The false part is what got you the charges. A discussion had to occur about services to establish intent. Taking the money is what sealed the deal. Almost surely, audio and video are part of this case.
If anyone is charged, I highly recommend that you go to a BY THE HOUR attorney. By the charge attorneys will leave you saying hello to Bubba when the number of hours exceeds their capabilities and what they expected. Better yet, go hire a QUALIFIED attorney beforehand. Read BY THE HOUR. Have this person explain the particulars of these cases. They are very simple. Remain within the lines of the law. These lines bend and stretch greatly. But break them and get caught, and you will pay your debt to society.
In my situation the undercover got totally naked, yes I saw his ducky doodle, I did half the massage, never took money, when he asked if I would do extras I said no. It didn't matter, they were going to get me and make an example of me. LEO can do whatever they want. They don't have rules. Their goal is to make money off you, shame you, and make themselves look like they're everyone's hero for cleaning up the town when in reality they need to focus on true criminals. It's a victimless crime. They want to put girls in jail for doing massages and relaxing people. This is our America.
Sweetheart, This is not personally directed to you. Let's examine the facts for a charge to lead to conviction.
True:
In my situation the undercover got totally naked, yes I saw his ducky doodle.
I did half the massage.
False:
Never took money.
When he asked if I would do extras I said no.
The false part is what got you the charges. A discussion had to occur about services to establish intent. Taking the money is what sealed the deal. Almost surely, audio and video are part of this case.
If anyone is charged, I highly recommend that you go to a BY THE HOUR attorney. By the charge attorneys will leave you saying hello to Bubba when the number of hours exceeds their capabilities and what they expected. Better yet, go hire a QUALIFIED attorney beforehand. Read BY THE HOUR. Have this person explain the particulars of these cases. They are very simple. Remain within the lines of the law. These lines bend and stretch greatly. But break them and get caught, and you will pay your debt to society.Everything I stated was true. Anyone who knows me will back me up on this.
Everything I stated was true. Anyone who knows me will back me up on this.Most of us, even us seniors who haven't had the pleasure believe you! LOL most of us don't pay any attention to what Blu has to say. Some like to talk big and most just ignore it. I suggest you don't waste your time! If you ever decide to give a well established senior a shot even if you haven't met let me know.
Stay Safe.
Dawg.
Sweetheart, I am not the one that you need to convince or anyone here for that matter. The courts are the ones. I am giving pertinent information that is very costly to learn after the fact. Any court case is public knowledge.
Fact 1:
The transfer of possession of "funds" is paramount in establishing any charge involving a service. No need to take my word for it. Look it up in Tennessee Code Annotated. These books are available at your local library in most instances. You can find them online too. How the transfer is effected is a surprise for most folks. T. C. A. Clearly defines possession and transfer. You will need to look at the various cases to understand precedence.
Fact 2:
Discussing a service beforehand establishes intent. Again, T. C. A. Has very well-defined concepts for intent. Look at precedence again. Establishing intent is necessary to go to the charge. Solicitation comes before promotion.
No need to take my word for it. It is in black and white.
Guys, go to a REAL Licensed Massage Therapist. Do you pay upfront? Is a transfer of possession of "payment" effected before you receive any services? The transfer of possession is what SEALS the DEAL. Read the particulars for what is "possessed" for a charge. In a sting, the funds are marked from the git go. Remember boys, this is taxpayer money, YOURS. Do you want the boys in blue taking your money and randomly fucking with it? LOL You could go to a LMT, and she could drain you dry. You pay. No promo charge occurs. Learn why this is true.
As stated before, go to a QUALIFIED, HOURLY attorney. Ask beforehand how his fee is calculated to ascertain whether he is hourly or by the charge. Most likely will run you around a grand.
Everything I stated was true. Anyone who knows me will back me up on this.
Sweetheart, I am not the one that you need to convince or anyone here for that matter. The courts are the ones. I am giving pertinent information that is very costly to learn after the fact. Any court case is public knowledge.
Fact 1:
The transfer of possession of "funds" is paramount in establishing any charge involving a service. No need to take my word for it. Look it up in Tennessee Code Annotated. These books are available at your local library in most instances. You can find them online too. How the transfer is effected is a surprise for most folks. T. C. A. Clearly defines possession and transfer. You will need to look at the various cases to understand precedence.
Fact 2:
Discussing a service beforehand establishes intent. Again, T. C. A. Has very well-defined concepts for intent. Look at precedence again. Establishing intent is necessary to go to the charge. Solicitation comes before promotion.
No need to take my word for it. It is in black and white.
Guys, go to a REAL Licensed Massage Therapist. Do you pay upfront? Is a transfer of possession of "payment" effected before you receive any services? The transfer of possession is what SEALS the DEAL. Read the particulars for what is "possessed" for a charge. In a sting, the funds are marked from the git go. Remember boys, this is taxpayer money, YOURS. Do you want the boys in blue taking your money and randomly fucking with it? LOL You could go to a LMT, and she could drain you dry. You pay. No promo charge occurs. Learn why this is true.
As stated before, go to a QUALIFIED, HOURLY attorney. Ask beforehand how his fee is calculated to ascertain whether he is hourly or by the charge. Most likely will run you around a grand.You can state an opinion Bluford. But you have no idea about my situation. I hired one of the best attorneys around. Worked out very well for me. I am quite an intelligent person who is drug free and I have held highly regarded positions in the work place. Someone wanted me out of the game. Ladies and gentlemen the game has changed. Dirty LEO do exist. They have each others back. Because, in the end it's all about the publicity, right? They don't give a crap if you serve jail time. They want to look good for all the saintly townfolk to see. Your fancy intellectual words look good in black and white bluford but we all know better. My clients know how I had worked that's why most were in shock when the news broke. We know you're smart Bluford, very impressive but street smarts win on this. Play safe my friends. Xoxo Whitney.
BallSwinger
02-23-17, 23:28
Most of us, even us seniors who haven't had the pleasure believe you! LOL most of us don't pay any attention to what Blu has to say. Some like to talk big and most just ignore it. I suggest you don't waste your time! If you ever decide to give a well established senior a shot even if you haven't met let me know.
Stay Safe.
Dawg.I agree. For some reason, folks tend to disregard people who are condescending with "boys" and "sweetheart" intros, then blab on with educational posts constantly about how super-pimp they are in the game. Good info, but horrible approach that is off-putting to, dare I say, a majority of the readers.
I'm fine with never passing your background checks since we've never met. You be extra careful and stay out of the clink.
BS.
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Keep your bloviating in the fight thread
A2
Sweetheart, I have yet to state my opinion. I have given only facts pertaining to your type of case. The particular facts of your case or any case is a matter of public information.
Now, I will make an inference. From your information, I gather that you engaged with a LEO, regular client, who turned the tables on you. I am inferring because I have not taken the time to find your case's information. I have emphasized the importance of playing and being legal. Everyone can play this game AND be within the constraints of the law, which bend greatly. Do not break them. The game remains the same, until the law changes. Know the law, and you know the game.
Hopefully, your attorney has apprised you of the particulars of the law, so you can stay within the law. However, if you hired a per charge based counselor, this is probably not true. Anyone can look up who your attorney was / is for your case. If you need direction about a qualified attorney, send me a pm.
You can state an opinion Bluford. But you have no idea about my situation. I hired one of the best attorneys around. Worked out very well for me. I am quite an intelligent person who is drug free and I have held highly regarded positions in the work place. Someone wanted me out of the game. Ladies and gentlemen the game has changed. Dirty LEO do exist. They have each others back. Because, in the end it's all about the publicity, right? They don't give a crap if you serve jail time. They want to look good for all the saintly townfolk to see. Your fancy intellectual words look good in black and white bluford but we all know better. My clients know how I had worked that's why most were in shock when the news broke. We know you're smart Bluford, very impressive but street smarts win on this. Play safe my friends. Xoxo Whitney.
Anyone that believes that LEO has any concerns about obeying the law should read this article that just broke on the FBI.
http://www.ocweekly.com/news/fbi-used-best-buys-geek-squad-to-increase-secret-public-surveillance-7950030
They have been employing the Geek Squad from Best Buy stores to hunt around in every computer they can come in contact with to find anything they "think" might be illegal. It seems that no one at any level in the Justice Department or local LEO's have ever read the USA Constitution. If all Plea Bargaining was done away with, we'd have far less of this sort of illegal activity on the part of various LEO's since their tactics would come out in courts. As it is, nearly all cases are plea bargained and people plead guilty to things that they should never have been accused of in the first place to prevent even harsher penalties if they refuse to plea, even when they know they are innocent. Our entire "Justice" system is sick and corrupt.
Anyone that believes that LEO has any concerns about obeying the law should read this article that just broke on the FBI.
http://www.ocweekly.com/news/fbi-used-best-buys-geek-squad-to-increase-secret-public-surveillance-7950030
They have been employing the Geek Squad from Best Buy stores to hunt around in every computer they can come in contact with to find anything they "think" might be illegal. It seems that no one at any level in the Justice Department or local LEO's have ever read the USA Constitution. If all Plea Bargaining was done away with, we'd have far less of this sort of illegal activity on the part of various LEO's since their tactics would come out in courts. As it is, nearly all cases are plea bargained and people plead guilty to things that they should never have been accused of in the first place to prevent even harsher penalties if they refuse to plea, even when they know they are innocent. Our entire "Justice" system is sick and corrupt.So true RJ.
StonesRoller69
03-10-17, 19:20
Anyone that believes that LEO has any concerns about obeying the law should read this article that just broke on the FBI.
http://www.ocweekly.com/news/fbi-used-best-buys-geek-squad-to-increase-secret-public-surveillance-7950030
They have been employing the Geek Squad from Best Buy stores to hunt around in every computer they can come in contact with to find anything they "think" might be illegal. It seems that no one at any level in the Justice Department or local LEO's have ever read the USA Constitution. If all Plea Bargaining was done away with, we'd have far less of this sort of illegal activity on the part of various LEO's since their tactics would come out in courts. As it is, nearly all cases are plea bargained and people plead guilty to things that they should never have been accused of in the first place to prevent even harsher penalties if they refuse to plea, even when they know they are innocent. Our entire "Justice" system is sick and corrupt.That is some scary stuff. It distresses me to read it. But I'm not going to kill the messenger. Thanks for the info, RJH.
Not sure where to post this but a lady friend of mine just got caught up in a sting operation off Lafayette exit at Hampton inn. Just wanted to inform you lady and gentlemen. Stay safe.
StonesRoller69
03-20-17, 13:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
I found this video mentioned on a different forum here. I think it is worth watching, at least the first 15 minutes. It may be a bit dated but I don't think a lot has changed in the past 10 years in terms of asserting your rights (although keep in mind this is before Ferguson and its backlash). I have had many encounters with LEO over the years and (luckily) have avoided serious trouble. But I did spend one night in a jail (for something I didn't even do) and I tell you I don't ever want to repeat that experience.
TIP: I often have trouble understanding some of what is said in videos. The CC button actually works pretty well on this video so you may want to turn CC on.
Let me state that I'm not a big YouTube watcher, nor have I done much research on the subject, so there may well be better or more pertinent videos / information available. I welcome any that anyone else has to share.
It is worth noting that the narrator was once the Executive Director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). I find that many people have a total misunderstanding of what the ACLU is all about. The ACLU is about protecting the rights of EVERYONE and they provide a lot of useful services and information. They don't pick and choose whose rights should be protected although it may seem that way from the cases the media chooses to sensationalize. Just my. 02 worth.
The "No Thanks" checkpoint video that followed is pretty entertaining. These guys have got some huge balls! But I'm certainly not recommending anyone take the same actions, especially with the current federal administration! By the way, I worked a short time for ICE but my job had nothing to do with border patrol. But I can tell you that a whole lot has been done over the past 15 years despite the rhetoric of the current administration (if you have any questions about that PM me). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_3dDNPwJTU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
I found this video mentioned on a different forum here. I think it is worth watching, at least the first 15 minutes. It may be a bit dated but I don't think a lot has changed in the past 10 years in terms of asserting your rights (although keep in mind this is before Ferguson and its backlash). I have had many encounters with LEO over the years and (luckily) have avoided serious trouble. But I did spend one night in a jail (for something I didn't even do) and I tell you I don't ever want to repeat that experience.
TIP: I often have trouble understanding some of what is said in videos. The CC button actually works pretty well on this video so you may want to turn CC on.
Let me state that I'm not a big YouTube watcher, nor have I done much research on the subject, so there may well be better or more pertinent videos / information available. I welcome any that anyone else has to share.
It is worth noting that the narrator was once the Executive Director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). I find that many people have a total misunderstanding of what the ACLU is all about. The ACLU is about protecting the rights of EVERYONE and they provide a lot of useful services and information. They don't pick and choose whose rights should be protected although it may seem that way from the cases the media chooses to sensationalize. Just my. 02 worth.
The "No Thanks" checkpoint video that followed is pretty entertaining. These guys have got some huge balls! But I'm certainly not recommending anyone take the same actions, especially with the current federal administration! By the way, I worked a short time for ICE but my job had nothing to do with border patrol. But I can tell you that a whole lot has been done over the past 15 years despite the rhetoric of the current administration (if you have any questions about that PM me). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_3dDNPwJTU.Nice find!
Yep. Be polite. "Yes sir, no sir". And "NO..You may NOT sir"., Ask "am I free to go?". Other than that NEVER talk to LEO. ALWAYS Lawyer up. , and shut up!
Rrayr.
MilfMan865
03-22-17, 10:49
Another example of legislation gone bad (even though it's China):
Sex workers said that "the reason why they do not use condoms is that the contraceptive rubbers are used as evidence against them by the police when they are caught. " The police have confirmed that, indeed, the possession of condoms alone is enough to warrant an arrest.
No need to read the article, but link is included for completeness:
http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/96841/20160730/china-police-uses-condoms-evidence-sex-workers-choice-use.htm
Stay safe.,.,
milfman.
StonesRoller69
03-22-17, 14:55
Another example of legislation gone bad (even though it's China):
Sex workers said that "the reason why they do not use condoms is that the contraceptive rubbers are used as evidence against them by the police when they are caught. " The police have confirmed that, indeed, the possession of condoms alone is enough to warrant an arrest.
No need to read the article, but link is included for completeness:
http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/96841/20160730/china-police-uses-condoms-evidence-sex-workers-choice-use.htm
Stay safe.,.,
milfman.Reminds me of an ancient Chinese proverb. Woman slammed protected not protected from slammer.
Confucius also say, Virginity like bubble. One prick. All gone.
Confucius also say, Man with tool in woman's mouth not necessarily dentist.
I could go on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA
I found this video mentioned on a different forum here. I think it is worth watching, at least the first 15 minutes. It may be a bit dated but I don't think a lot has changed in the past 10 years in terms of asserting your rights (although keep in mind this is before Ferguson and its backlash). I have had many encounters with LEO over the years and (luckily) have avoided serious trouble. But I did spend one night in a jail (for something I didn't even do) and I tell you I don't ever want to repeat that experience.
TIP: I often have trouble understanding some of what is said in videos. The CC button actually works pretty well on this video so you may want to turn CC on.
Let me state that I'm not a big YouTube watcher, nor have I done much research on the subject, so there may well be better or more pertinent videos / information available. I welcome any that anyone else has to share.
It is worth noting that the narrator was once the Executive Director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). I find that many people have a total misunderstanding of what the ACLU is all about. The ACLU is about protecting the rights of EVERYONE and they provide a lot of useful services and information. They don't pick and choose whose rights should be protected although it may seem that way from the cases the media chooses to sensationalize. Just my. 02 worth.
The "No Thanks" checkpoint video that followed is pretty entertaining. These guys have got some huge balls! But I'm certainly not recommending anyone take the same actions, especially with the current federal administration! By the way, I worked a short time for ICE but my job had nothing to do with border patrol. But I can tell you that a whole lot has been done over the past 15 years despite the rhetoric of the current administration (if you have any questions about that PM me). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_3dDNPwJTU.The ACLU does very much pick and choose which rights and whose rights they try to support. Try to get the ACLU to ever even consider supporting the 2nd Amendment or the 10th Amendment. It ain't going to happen.
StonesRoller69
03-24-17, 15:21
The ACLU does very much pick and choose which rights and whose rights they try to support. Try to get the ACLU to ever even consider supporting the 2nd Amendment or the 10th Amendment. It ain't going to happen."The ACLU works in the courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to all people in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States. " Like any organization dealing with complicated issues and having limited resources, the ACLU certainly picks and chooses cases / issues based on several factors but always in defense of "individual rights and liberties. " The ACLU's position on 2nd Amendment rights has been clear and consistent for a long time. You can read about that at https://www.aclu.org/other/second-amendment?redirect=organization-news-and-highlights/second-amendment..
Moving forward, let's avoid any debates and just stick to what is pertinent to the hobby.
"The ACLU works in the courts, legislatures and communities to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to all people in this country by the Constitution and laws of the United States. " Like any organization dealing with complicated issues and having limited resources, the ACLU certainly picks and chooses cases / issues based on several factors but always in defense of "individual rights and liberties. " The ACLU's position on 2nd Amendment rights has been clear and consistent for a long time. You can read about that at https://www.aclu.org/other/second-amendment?redirect=organization-news-and-highlights/second-amendment..
Moving forward, let's avoid any debates and just stick to what is pertinent to the hobby.We can move forward, but it was you who brought up the ACLU and I have zero respect for that organization. They talk a good game, but are just a bunch of political hacks in my opinion. And I grew up on the streets.
StonesRoller69
03-25-17, 15:05
We can move forward, but it was you who brought up the ACLU and I have zero respect for that organization. They talk a good game, but are just a bunch of political hacks in my opinion. And I grew up on the streets.I'm just wondering about the logic here. Are people supposed to have more respect for a person who "grew up on the streets" when it comes to understanding the Constitution, complex legal issues, and an organization that has been around for almost 100 years? I'm going with the educated person 10 times out of 10. But that's just me.
I'm just wondering about the logic here. Are people supposed to have more respect for a person who "grew up on the streets" when it comes to understanding the Constitution, complex legal issues, and an organization that has been around for almost 100 years? I'm going with the educated person 10 times out of 10. But that's just me.You do sound like an attorney. Educated, maybe? Actual Knowledge? I grew up on the streets but built several business' and created several hundreds of jobs over the years. The ACLU reminds me of the Blue Hats from the UN. Useless and pretty much despised everywhere. Just useless political hacks as I said.
In my situation the undercover got totally naked, yes I saw his ducky doodle, I did half the massage, never took money, when he asked ... I said no. It didn't matter, ... They don't have rules. I assume he's married. I wonder if his wife know what he really does for a living?
Their goal is to make money off you, shame youIs a woman under blue light still a woman. You know, as someone stated previously, this is all public record. Maybe someone should make it a little more public, like the mugshot sites. Maybe HIS friends, family and neighbors would be interested to see what he really does for a living.
This whole thing really chaps my ass! I practice polyamory, which is completely legal. My suitors support me, which is also just as legal and valid and as any other man / woman being supported by a man / men / woman / women. And immaterial considering that every shack up is also legal, regardless of the number in residence (or participating yet not together in residence). And it's still quite surprising to me how many officers on POF and OKC. Both single and married. Are very agreeable to an open relationship AND helping you pay a few bills while they engage with you in said open relationship. Interestingly enough, they never see that as prostitution. No one does. Because it's not.
But tweek the semantics (not the behavior) just a teeny-tiny bit, change the angle that you stand every so slightly when you look at it, and bam! All of a sudden. POOF. Like magic, I'm doing something illegal. I don't even have to cross a line, just jump up and down right where I'm standing and I could just toggle myself. Legal, illegal, legal, illegal.
"The average busy professional in this country wakes up in the morning, goes to work, comes home, takes care of personal and family obligations, and then goes to sleep, unaware that he or she likely committed several federal crimes that day" - Harvey Silvergate.
And how many traffickers did they get off the street the day they arrested you? How many women or children were rescued?
Law Enforcement, when practiced right, is a noble profession; something the citizens can be proud of and stand behind. This here is just a dog and pony show. Entertainment value only. And it makes a mockery of the true profession of law enforcement.
Whitney, I'm glad to read that you are safe, warm, and have a good attorney. Much love, beautiful lady.
MilfMan865
04-06-17, 00:06
Title: Secret Service agent on VP's detail caught after meeting with prostitute at Maryland hotel.
Link: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/secret-service-agent-prostitute-maryland-hotel/index.html.
Who hasn't been tempted (or followed-through) on official work travel, to simply have the pleasure companion mosey to the hotel room?
"According to the spokesperson, the employee was required to surrender his weapon and official gear and was placed on administrative leave. The employee's security clearance and access to all Secret Service facilities has also been suspended."
Be smart,
Milfman.
StonesRoller69
04-20-17, 11:05
http://nypost.com/2017/04/19/bill-would-end-immunity-for-cops-who-have-sex-with-hookers/
'Local and state investigators have said the tactic is not employed by investigators, an assertion backed up by the committee's chairman. ' Yeah right, not a single cop in Michigan has taken advantage of this.
MilfMan865
04-21-17, 18:02
Several names on The List for issues not related to the hobby. If those gals have issues on the books for any reason upon LEO arriving or they arrive at LEO's location, those gals get a reservation to the Gray Bar Inn on the spot. ,. ,., irrespective of hobby stuff. Take a look at the ads that request that you sign up for a session using the Book of Faces. Numerous ads using legit providers' pics, but the info doesn't link back to legit providers (flag those fakes). The Therapeutic Services (supposedly licensed massage) section of CL requires that the massage ladies include their massage license number, so if you see an ad without a license notice and it looks TGTBT, it is likely a trap.
A concerted effort is being made to destroy confidence in any ads that one may respond to on CL and BP (especially since the Adult section of BP has simply flooded the Dating Section). LEO has put that in print, they "want anyone responding to an adult ad to wonder if it's really law enforcement on the other end". For those ladies that screen, you know that LEO can use fake state IDs for the purposes of screening so you may get one of those (Google is full of free fake state IDs that someone can send to you; don't forget about Photoshop IDs). If you don't have a way to vet the state ID that someone sends you, there's no point in requesting the ID. Want a dick pick for verification .,., Google is full of free dick pics too. The influx of funding to fight trafficking, and headlines to justify said funding, has made LEO's tactics and the extent of their immunity even more dastardly (consider what has happened to a few of our own).
Ladies and Gents .,., please be exceedingly vigilant for the next several days .,., connect the dots.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
MilfMan865
07-27-17, 19:21
How BP stings work and overcoming providers' reference requirements. ,. ,. From an alleged LEO perspective.
https://forum.officer.com/forum/officers-and-law-enforcement-professionals-only/the-squad-room/211494-backpage-stings?p=5542545#post5542545
Stay safe,
Milfman.
How BP stings work and overcoming providers' reference requirements. ,. ,. From an alleged LEO perspective.
https://forum.officer.com/forum/officers-and-law-enforcement-professionals-only/the-squad-room/211494-backpage-stings?p=5542545#post5542545
Stay safe,
Milfman.Welcome back was wondering where you have been.
No doubt we have more than one LEO on this site. JMO.
RyanRivera
08-15-17, 22:30
https://tbinewsroom.com/2017/08/15/11-men-facing-felony-charges-as-a-result-of-kingsport-human-trafficking-operation/
RyanRivera
08-18-17, 11:06
From a source I trust, got word that there is possible shenanigans going on BP and possibly SA over next few days. Stay safe.
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Keep all that partisan crap to yourself.
Yes you may report any posts of anybody doing it regardless of affiliation and I will do this same thing to them.
This isn't a red state/blue state thing, this is a keep all that shit off the forum thing.
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StonesRoller69
08-27-17, 19:33
A few days ago I was with one of the providers who was caught up in the recent Knoxville sting (and for that reason I am not naming her). She told me that she was in the car with the guy and did a cop check that consisted of both of them touching private parts but through clothing. Then he offered her a specific amount for a BJ. Then said he was an undercover cop and busted her when she agreed to the date. I have seen this provider several times and have no reason to doubt her version of the events. I was somewhat surprised that LEO could or would go this far. I am no legal expert so I am not offering advice other than to be very careful. If you are an expert in the matter feel free to chime in.
A few days ago I was with one of the providers who was caught up in the recent Knoxville sting (and for that reason I am not naming her). She told me that she was in the car with the guy and did a cop check that consisted of both of them touching private parts but through clothing. Then he offered her a specific amount for a BJ. Then said he was an undercover cop and busted her when she agreed to the date. I have seen this provider several times and have no reason to doubt her version of the events. I was somewhat surprised that LEO could or would go this far. I am no legal expert so I am not offering advice other than to be very careful. If you are an expert in the matter feel free to chime in.I'm by no means an expert, but this is why I never believed the myth of the LEO check. Regardless of what the law / procedure on paper is, I feel like reality works this way:
Cop and girl grope each other. Bust made.
In court, the girl: "But we grabbed each other's naughty bits!
Cop: "lolno didn't happen. ".
Judge: "I believe you, officer. Guilty! Next case. ".
Buzz LightYear
08-28-17, 22:47
I'm by no means an expert, but this is why I never believed the myth of the LEO check. Regardless of what the law / procedure on paper is, I feel like reality works this way:
Cop and girl grope each other. Bust made.
In court, the girl: "But we grabbed each other's naughty bits!
Cop: "lolno didn't happen. ".
Judge: "I believe you, officer. Guilty! Next case. ".You pretty much nailed it, just ask our favorite body rub girl W.
You pretty much nailed it, just ask our favorite body rub girl W.A LEO can do whatever he or she wants to make an arrest. Tennessee is one of the few states that does not have an entrapment law. Unless the accused can prove to a judge, it's basically your word against theirs. Who do you think a judge would believe?
MilfMan865
09-06-17, 15:54
Received verifiable intel that there is activity on Merchant's Road (close to IHOP) involving undercover LEO. It is likely involving providers based on the ladies who are being questioned. If you plan on mongering in that area, use your situational awareness to stay safe.
Happy hunting,
Milfman.
Received verifiable intel that there is activity on Merchant's Road (close to IHOP) involving undercover LEO. It is likely involving providers based on the ladies who are being questioned. If you plan on mongering in that area, use your situational awareness to stay safe.
Happy hunting,
Milfman.Thanks for the intel!
Tncocksman
09-07-17, 07:57
A few days ago I was with one of the providers who was caught up in the recent Knoxville sting (and for that reason I am not naming her). She told me that she was in the car with the guy and did a cop check that consisted of both of them touching private parts but through clothing. Then he offered her a specific amount for a BJ. Then said he was an undercover cop and busted her when she agreed to the date. I have seen this provider several times and have no reason to doubt her version of the events. I was somewhat surprised that LEO could or would go this far. I am no legal expert so I am not offering advice other than to be very careful. If you are an expert in the matter feel free to chime in.There have been a lot of cases where cops would get down to business and sample a girl's services, then turn bust her right after he busted a nut.
Happens quite often. If they're smart, all they have to do is lie and say it didn't happen. If they're not so smart, well. There's a reason this sort of thing has been documented so much.
A few days ago I was with one of the providers who was caught up in the recent Knoxville sting (and for that reason I am not naming her). She told me that she was in the car with the guy and did a cop check that consisted of both of them touching private parts but through clothing. Then he offered her a specific amount for a BJ. Then said he was an undercover cop and busted her when she agreed to the date. I have seen this provider several times and have no reason to doubt her version of the events. I was somewhat surprised that LEO could or would go this far. I am no legal expert so I am not offering advice other than to be very careful. If you are an expert in the matter feel free to chime in.A cop can do anything and still get away with it unless you record it. If you go for a incall, you will be busted as soon as enter the room regardless of LEO check or not. You don't even have to offer the money, just enter the room and you are in the locker. They can use your text messages or phone call record as proof in the court.
From a reliable provider, Raven caught up in a sting and charged with promoting this morning off of Notel 6 Merchants over by Outback Steakhouse. Sting still might be in progress.
I contacted her a couple of times last night on a burner. I just got a "you still interested?" Knowing she's already locked up, I'm guessing it's LEO on the other end. So I burned my burner.
Stay safe out there.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/enjoy-complete-satisfaction-an-experience-you-will-never-ever-forget-pure-release/28373363
From a reliable provider, Raven caught up in a sting and charged with promoting this morning off of Notel 6 Merchants over by Outback Steakhouse. Sting still might be in progress.
I contacted her a couple of times last night on a burner. I just got a "you still interested?" Knowing she's already locked up, I'm guessing it's LEO on the other end. So I burned my burner.
Stay safe out there.
http://knoxville.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/enjoy-complete-satisfaction-an-experience-you-will-never-ever-forget-pure-release/28373363America's Best Value motel.
MilfMan865
10-12-17, 10:48
http://www.local8now.com/content/news/Trafficking-sting-leads-to-discovery-of-missing-NC-child-450594943.html
Read carefully since the headline could be misleading: the providers were of legal age.
Be safe,
Milfman.
http://www.local8now.com/content/news/Trafficking-sting-leads-to-discovery-of-missing-NC-child-450594943.html
Read carefully since the headline could be misleading: the providers were of legal age.
Be safe,
Milfman.Providers were of age the story did say there was a minor in the car though.
MilfMan865
11-03-17, 10:49
A historically reliable source has relayed information that. , , undercover LEO activity is heavy just off the Merchant's Exit near America's Best Value Inn (ABVI). If you plan on mongering in that area, take extra precautions. ,. , or. ,. , choose an alternate location on this soggy day.
Stay safe,
Milfman.
MilfMan865
11-12-17, 21:43
Synopsis: Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) raided a call center affiliated with a major escort directory (eros dot com) alleging "cross-border illegal activity. " While not confirming the exact nature of this investigation, agents explain HSI agents are often assigned to cases involving money laundering, trafficking, and cyber-sex crimes (prostitution and solicitation are generally state crimes instead of federal). Department of Homeland Security involvement signals both interstate and international activity.
http://abc11.com/adult-entertainment-industry-abuzz-after-federal-raid/2625072/
Stay safe,
Milfman.
Member #5558
12-12-17, 17:06
America's Best Value motel.I have found something cheaper than actually going out and buying a burner phone. It's called textme.Com and works rather well. Totally free as long as you just text. The downside is you won't get a local area code. Mines out west somewhere. If get into a problem like mentioned here, you can dump the program and reload with a different number. You can get a local area code but have to pay for that luxery.
MilfMan865
12-13-17, 10:15
URL: http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/12/federal-sex-ad-ban-passes-judiciary.
Summary: "The bill would allow the government to treat websites and social apps as if they are human traffickers if bad actors should communicate through their digital platforms and tools. If H R 1865 becomes law, the FBI (or other law enforcement agencies) would be able to prosecute Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, Craigslist, and myriad other sites where sex workers advertise and / or communicate with clients even if the sexual exchange is only alluded to and never completed. Not knowing about the exchange or having no intention to have facilitated prostitution would not count as a defense."
Stay safe,
Milfman.
URL: http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/12/federal-sex-ad-ban-passes-judiciary.
Summary: "The bill would allow the government to treat websites and social apps as if they are human traffickers if bad actors should communicate through their digital platforms and tools. If H R 1865 becomes law, the FBI (or other law enforcement agencies) would be able to prosecute Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, Craigslist, and myriad other sites where sex workers advertise and / or communicate with clients even if the sexual exchange is only alluded to and never completed. Not knowing about the exchange or having no intention to have facilitated prostitution would not count as a defense."
Stay safe,
Milfman.All that would do, is create dozens of offshore based websites that were devoted to sex advertising for profit. They would just create a new industry outside of the USA Even based in Canada, such a website there would be legal since prostitution is legal in Canada. As usual, the turds that run the government haven't thought that through. Right now they have back door access. Offshore, they would have butkas.
A little birdie tells me there was a sting on the south side tonight. Hope no brothers got caught up in it. They're still trying, even with covid going on.
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