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LukeSkyWanker
05-29-02, 15:50
Viagra is available in any Farmacia in Venezuela for about $6-10 per 50g tablet depending on how rich or desperate you look. You do not need a prescription or ID or anything and it certainly does the business.
Can anyone tell me if Viagra makes sex more pleasurable -in addition to getting an erection? I have heard two different opinions about this. I don't have a problem maintaining a hard-on. It's about the one thing I can always do and I don't think it could get any harder! But sensitivity and tubing pressure are off a good bit as I enter middle age (47!) Will Viagra make sex better for me? How about for women? Will it at least make her nipples hard? Enquiring minds need to know. . .
Viagra does not make sex more pleasurable, unless you count lasting longer and recovering quicker. Do you have a problem of getting pleasure from sex? For me, it is mostly in the mine. I usually last a long time anyway (to get & give more pleasure) and can easily last an hour with Viagra and be ready again in about another half, if I am feeling interested. You don't just get an errection as you have to have the interest/stimulation to get one. If you don't have trouble getting a boner, don't use it. I use 100 mg tables and cut them with a pill cutter into 4 almost equal parts and it works well with me.
The way Viagra works, and it was an unintended things as it was designed for something else, it to stop the blood from flowing out of the penis when there is an increased flow during arousal. So it will not do anything for a woman so don't give it to her or waste it on her. If my memory serves me correct, it was originally designed for older men with some condition and it didn't work for that but they discovered a great side effect, , but will not have any effect sexually on a woman. I don't not think it will do them any harm, but when it was used for waht it was originally intented, it cost less that one tenth of the cost now. The drug company accidentally discovered a money winer, so what is new?
What are the side effects of Viagra for a normal person. I heard some people have headache next day morning. The experienced people can give their suggestion.
Secondly I do not have problem with getting erection first time but will ejaculate immediately entering in if I take long time in pre play. Then I have problem with getting hard second time(except I have a very pretty one with me) & ejaculation will be after some time then first time. The third time I never thought about. Do you guys think Viagra will help me?
Originally posted by khun
What are the side effects of Viagra for a normal person. I heard some people have headache next day morning. The experienced people can give their suggestion.
Secondly I do not have problem with getting erection first time but will ejaculate immediately entering in if I take long time in pre play. Then I have problem with getting hard second time(except I have a very pretty one with me) & ejaculation will be after some time then first time. The third time I never thought about. Do you guys think Viagra will help me?
For the people who are interested
I tried 1/4
It worked for me perfectly as I wanted
2 shots in a sequence
No headache
No larger erection
Quite happy
Thanks
> it to stop the blood from flowing out of the penis when there is an increased flow during arousal. So it will not do anything for a woman so don't give it to her or waste it on her.
I've talked a few girls into trying it and they claimed that it did something for them. I don't know the science behind it but it seems to me that blood rushing to their private parts might do something for them. They do seem a little more engorged than usuall. Perhaps Gin would work better.
Frankfurt40
06-10-02, 06:51
dear all...
i just read recently about "suprima" as an alternative
for viagra. does anybody had tried it.?? where to get it
in germany with out a prescription.??
leopoldo1963
06-27-02, 13:31
VIAGRA NATURAL ALTERNATIVES
Anyone tried STAMINA RX, PRO EREX or others herbal products?
I have ordered the first product and 'll post the effects :)
mandrillo
viagra can be brought in thailand at just about any pharmacy. walk in there and ask. if you buy four tablets then they will open a new packet for you. there is a hologram on the box but i'm sure someone has managed to forge that. real tablets are blue on the outside and white in the middle. most pharmacies stock 100mg tablets. they will cut them up for you into smaller doses. i do not have any problems with my erection, so i only take it before an all nighter - hell if i'm paying for a night, then i want it seven or eight times. with 50 mg it helps me keep it up in the small hours.
the cost is about 500 baht for a 100 mg tablet, but you'll get a discount if buying in bulk.
i'd guess that importing it into most countries is illegal. keep the amounts small so that you can't be accused of supplying it.
roasty, thanks for answer,what do u mean by:
"real tablets" are there false tablets around in Thai shops?
i mean home made viagra made by some alchemist only to get some tmoneyselling to "farangs "like me?
so i should break one tablets and see if it is white inside?
banker:viagra will not help u un premature ejaculation..
it is a"erection helper"
jeffjimman
09-11-02, 12:43
Viagra + Ecstacy?
I have no problem getting erections with my gf... except when I tried the happy pill: my Johnson withered. It wasn't a big deal, since we were happy anyway, but having sex would definitely be a plus!
So, I wonder if anyone has experice with V+E. Is the full 100mg way too much? Cut it in half? Quarters? Side effects?
hi there, i heard that in mexico you can get fake viagra??? anyone run into that?? do you need a px or over the counter? i will be in el paso in nov but want to know if i will have problems with crossing the border with viagra? would love some info
Originally posted by mandrillo
i would like to know if Viagra tablets can be bought without medical prescription in Thailand,and can i take some tablets
back tto my country?
what is the maximum amount of tablets i can take back ?
any recommendations about how many mg should i take?
thanks Everybody
Yes you can purchase in Thailand without prescription but you must gamble on the fact that Thaiand are expert at copying almost everything so why not purple pills. Saying that, I have purchased a small amount both in Bangkok and Phuket and they seemed OK. You can purchase from any Pharmacist without prescription but expect to pay around 800 to 1000 baht for one 100mg tablet. Good luck.
Viagra is available over the counter without a prescription in Mexico.But its not cheap.I was paying $13-14 for a 100mg pill.Recently all the pharmacies have upped their price to $20 or more.One place wanted 23 dollars for one pill! So today I started researching mail order options. I got alot of good advice from alt.support impotence.Alot of guys had good experince with this company: http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com/ProductList.htm
They sell a generic version of Viagra for $2.40 per 100 mg pill, plus a few bucks shipping.From now on I'm bringing my own pills to party in Mexico.
DonkeyKong
09-28-02, 00:35
robser;
I've been using vidrin for the past 3 months. It works great. I purchased it over the internet by filling out a very simple, short questionaire.
Regarding bogus viagra; I purchased viagra in Mexico a few times and it did not have the same effectiveness as the vidrin I puurchased here. Whether it was bogus or it was the situation(time, food, etc.) I don't know.
PosterLion
09-28-02, 22:20
To All,
I have tried Viagra about ten times now, eleven to be precise. I cut the 100mg. tablet in two and this works very well. I have read some posts that believe this may be problematic if the drug is dispensed inside the pill in a manner that is not uniform. I have not found this to be the case. Try it and be your own judge. As I have said, I have done it eleven times now. Each time has worked. Now I will tell you of the two times I have purchased Viagra. The first time was in a Pharmacy in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico. There is no consultation fee and there is no prescription required. I bought one pill at a smaller Pharmacy a couple of blocks from the main group of pharmacies that you pass when you first cross the border. The tablet cost me around $16usd. I can’t remember the exact price because I was drunk and hell bent on trying it. But I am sure I paid at least $15usd for it. I remember being astonished and thinking to myself, this is not cheap. I can’t comment on whether fake Viagra is being sold in Mexico because I have never bought any. But the experience of life tells me that anything is possible. I would bet a dollar that there is fake Viagra being sold. It is too easy to make a buck that way. Someone will try it.
The second time I bought Viagra was on the Internet. I think it is a reasonable deal. I purchased ten 100mg. tablets at https://www.amerimedrx.com/index.asp. The price was $139usd plus $15usd shipping. This came out to a price of $15.40usd per pill. I got the tablets in the mail via FedEx in a couple of days. Beware that you must sign for the pills. I was home the day they were delivered so it was no problem. I have 5.5 pills left and am happy with my purchase. There was no consultation fee and it was very easy. The form was very short and to the point. Just be sure you check the boxes that say you are not taking any Nitrate drugs and that you have difficulty getting an erection. It is easy!
I read this forum a lot and I usually click the “last 24 hours” section. I saw that the subject of Viagra came up and I decided to pay a visit. I hope this information is useful to all you chaps out there.
I noticed a post that said you could buy Viagra at http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com/ProductList.htm and I was intrigued because of the low price (just $3.30usd per pill). I went there to check it out and this is what I found. I went through the page to see how much it might cost me. I clicked the button to purchase the product and I got a security certificate alert. I decided not to go any further. If anyone has purchased Viagra from here then please let me know of your experience! Another thing I found a little suspect about this site is that they claim that Sildenafil Citrate (the active ingredient in Viagra) is of limited supply and they reserve the right to substitute another drug (Suhagra) in place of Sildenafil Citrate. Here is the actual text from the site below:
Sildenafil Citrate, 100mg tablets. Brand Name: Silagra®, manufactured by Cipla®. Product is equivalent to Viagra® 100, manufactured by Pfizer®. At the moment there is a shortage of the Silagra brand, we reserve the right to dispense Suhagra made by Okasa® (division of Cipla®).
I need to read up on the chemical details of Viagra. I should do it to be in line with what I know of the other chemicals I have experimented with. Oh well, with time I will learn much. After checking out the suspect Viagra dealer I decided to do a search out of curiosity. I found a website that compares the prices of Viagra between all the sites they know of that sells Viagra online. I think this might be a legit find. As a matter of fact, one of the sites sells Viagra for cheaper than I paid with amerimedrx ($13.20usd per tab). I think I will try them next. The price comparison site is at: http://www.drugstorebestbuys.com/bestbuys.htm
and the site that I found the best deal for ten 100mg. tabs is at: http://www.pillvalue.com . I have not tried pillvalue yet but I think I will on my next purchase. I haven’t seen a better deal than $13.20 yet. If anyone has tried this site then please tell us of your experience. If I don’t get a post back on this than I will be sure and let you know after I try pillvalue. But as I said, I still have 5.5 pills left from amerimedrx at $15.40 a tab. Amerimedrx is also listed at the comparison site. I wish I’d have known about it and I would have tried pillvalue first and saved $2.20 a tab! Oh well, chalk it up eh...
I placed an order from generics onkine,I'll report back on my experience.Here are some quotes from guys who have bought from this company(found on alt.support imotence)
"Generic Viagra (Sildenafil Citrate) can be mail ordered from India
without a prescription and is only about $2.50 per 100mg tablet so if you normally use 50mg split the 100 for a cost of only $1.25 per dose. The generic is exactly the same composition as Pfizer Viagra. Myself and several other people in this newsgroup have ordered form http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com with no problems or complaints."
"The Pharmaceutical company that manufactures the tablets has there product description at www.cipla.com/ourproducts/38/silagra.htm
there is a good description of the manufacturing facilities there as well. Looks modern and "first world" to me. I know for me they work exactly like Pfizer Viagra right down to the flushed face and stuffy nose. Legally, as for ordering drugs from foreign countries, as long as they aren't "scheduled" (i.e. controlled substances) technically customs could deny entry to prescription drugs but rarely ever does. It is not against the law to order non scheduled drugs for personal use, just they can be denied entry. generics-online claims they will reship or refund if customs denied entry but I have never heard of that happening so I don't know if that promise has ever been tested. Basically customs is a non issue and could care less about Viagra. I have ordered twice from http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com with 2
to 4 week shipping times. Others in this group and elsewhere have reported similar experiences to mine. I have also ordered from http://www.medsmall.com which shipped quickly but charged a little more and has a minimum order of 64 tablets.
http://www.importeddrugs.com also lists generic Viagra for $2.36 per 100mg and I have heard they are reliable but I have no personal experience with them. They have a flat rate $30 shipping though. For right now generics-online is the best I have found. The tablets actually only cost 55 cents per 100mg retail in India so even at $2.50 there is still some serious price gouging."
"India has always had patent laws which are somewhat different from most countries. It has nothing to do with India being a third world country. It is a long tradition of their legal system.
Under Indian law you cannot claim a patent on a product, but only on the process used to create a product. Pfizer uses a certain method to
manufacture sildenaf l citrate, and Indian law recognizes their patent on that process. But their patent on the product is not valid in India. Thus, anyone is free to invent a new process to create sildenafil citrate. There are quite a number of ways to manufacture sildenafil citrate. Pfizer's problem is that they failed to file patents on other possible processes. Had they done so the Indian companies would not have been able to manufacture it legally. Since Pfizer failed to file patents on other processes, the Indian companies went ahead and file patents themselves on their alternative processes. Thus, it is too late for Pfizer to do anything about it. Pfizer even went to court in India to stop the Indian companies and their complaint was thrown out of court"
As someone who has NOT tried Viagra, let me ask a couple questions. Does sex feel diferent or better using Viagra? I know it produces an erection, but I can almost always get very hard -at least the 1st time. Getting an erection for a second or third round is a bit more dificult (never used to be ...) but mostly because I don't have the intense interest or need to come again. Would Viagra make me WANT to keep going or just make it possible with a constant erection? Maybe what I''m looking for is testosterone ...
My usual method - over the last few years - is to stay hard by not coming and have sex for as long as necesary or as long as she lets me and then come once. If she wants to have sex 3 or 4 times, I simply delay until she's done. I know that not every guy can do this, or would want to do this but it works for me. I used to just come 2 or 3 times per session but I'm getting too damn old. Should I try Viagra? Or look for the fountain of youth? Or sleep with hotter chicks . . . that might work.
Proko -- Viagra is basically to help you stay hard if you're having trouble with that. It makes erections more sustained once you have arousal in the first place -- which is one of the reasons it's popular among porn stars, for example, who have to basically stay hard all day, though they're not cumming all that often. I know some folks say that it helps you get subsequent erections quicker after orgasm as well, but opinion is decidedly divided on that, and most of the literature I've read on it basically says that it won't make any difference in this regard.
If you've got no problems maintaining an erection, I don't see why you'd want to bother with it, honestly.
I'm wondering whether anyone has experience taking Viagra with anti-depressants, in particular Paxil. For instance, does it help with the 'sexual side effects.? I am currently taking that and it indeed does a number on your sex drive. Usually it is just a long delay in orgasm, which might be consider a benefit, but sometimes it is way too long. Also, occasionally it does affect the ability to get an erection.
Similarly does Viagra counteract the effects of alcohol?
Oddly enough, I'm taking Paxil more for it's indirect help with ED (erectile dysfunction) than with depression. Sometimes this occurs with too much alchohol but other times it is more mental.
Apparently, there is a correlation with depression and ED, so I'm trying to see if that might be the cause. Of course, if the anti-depressant interferes with sex that might cause more severe depression :)
Viagra in EUROPE
I wanted to try viagra and have found a website that gave me a good result.
www.viagra-europe.net
Ordered on the web.
Instant order confirmation by mail.
2 days later order shipped confirmation by mail plus UPS tracking number.
2 more days later UPS delivered a flat documents envelope without any traces and the viagra in small plastic pouch with explanation in my own language with it.
Perfect
10x 100 mg for 135 euro, ups included.
Don't think i'm from the seller; you know i'm a regular here.
Just wanted to share my experience with other europeen interested guys here.
The viagra is shipped from germany, so that's why for europeens it's better than from usa, because we don't have to bother with customs problems.
Lew Archer
10-13-02, 21:26
I am a new user (former lurker) and find the forum very interested and informative.
I am looking to obtain Viagra (I am in New York City) via the internet. What are the legitimate sites that will not cheat you? What has been other peoples' experiences? Is it safe to use one's credit card on these sites or was a check/money order utilized?
Borderguy, have you received your order from generics online and what is your opinion?
Any other opinions/advice/information will be greatly appreciated.
DonkeyKong
10-14-02, 19:02
Lew;
You might consider vidrin. It is viagra that is compounded(it's mixed with something I don't recall). You place it under your tongue. It is faster acting then viagra in the pill form.
I obtained mine after answering Very few questions at the vidrin.biz site. You might want to shop around, although I haven't seen anyone mention any deals for vidrin like I've seen for viagra.
Lew Archer
10-14-02, 23:07
Thank you for the information DonkeyKong. What is your experiences with Vidrin? Have you tried Viagra and how does the two compare? Vidrin does seem expensive though compared to what other board members have been mentioning about Viagra.
Any other websites to recommend?
Lew Archer
10-14-02, 23:17
Also, have anyone else had any experience with any of the other "over-the-counter" enhancers? Horny Goat Weed, Yohimbe, and stuff of that nature?
DonkeyKong
10-15-02, 01:40
Lew;
My experience with vidrin has been very positive. I'm am using my second order now. My experience with viagra is only what I purchased in Tijuana. I'm not sure if it was "genuine" or counterfeit as I didn't have the same positive results as with the vidrin. My understanding though is viagra is affected more by the time factor, plus when you had your last meal, etc.
I did use Yohimbe for a while until I overcame my reluctance to order any prescription drug online. It did have a noticable positive effect, but nowhere near vidrin. Hope I've been of some help. If you choose to purchase vidrin, please post if you find a bargain. Good Luck!
Mic Jagger
10-25-02, 19:35
This is a quote from another person, "I have considerable experience with yohimbe bark, yohimbe extracts, and pure yohimbine. I, too, would describe yohimbine, the pharmaceutical, as "cleaner" in effect than yohimbe, the bark. Yohimbine is more concentrated on sexual effects, and it doesn't give me a headache, or make me feel dumb. Not at all; rather it promotes mental alertness."
My question, has anyone had any experience with the pharmmceutical "yohimbine" ? In the US you need a perscription to purchase but I was wondering if anyone has found this available in the Mexico pharmacies?
Lew Archer
11-13-02, 11:47
Is there any update amongst the board members regarding purchasing Viagra via the internet, or purchasing any of the Viagra deriveratives or substitutes? (Vidrin, Yohimbe, Horney Goat Weed, etc.)
OK, silly question time.
Why buy Viagra on-line when all you have to do is ask your doctor for it?
Its is more expensive on-line and you have to wait. Why not just get a script and buy it when you need it?
Almost any doctor will prescribe on request.
I ordered Sildenafil Citrate (generic Viagra) online at w w w (dot) generics-online-pharmacy (dot) c o m . This generic Viagra is produced in India using a process that had not been patented by the orignal producer of the drug. As I understand it, Indian law does not recognise a patent on the drug, only the patent on the process of making the drug. Anyway, I answered their screening questionnaire, ordered 8 100mg tablets, paid with a credit card, and had them shipped to a neighborhood Mailbox place by registered Air Mail. Total cost, including shipping, came to $4.25 per 100 mg tablet. It would have been much cheaper if I had ordered in a larger quantity. Total elapsed time from order to delivery was 20 days. Oh, I also had to pay $5 to the Mailbox place for receiving my delivery. (I used the Mailbox place to avoid inquisitive eyes at home. "Oh, what did you get from India?")
I haven't used Viagra before, so I took a quarter of a pill (25 mg) and within a half an hour, it took effect with moderately successful results (a harder erection than usual). That was the "dry run". I plan to try a "wet run" with half a pill this weekend, at our friendly neighborhood massage parlor. For more info on the massage parlor, see my post at US>Arizona>Phoenix dated 11/16/2002. Report on the Blue Vitamin from India will follow!
Today I took 50 mg of the generic Viagra from India. It did allow me to perform well, and be hard for 30+ minutes, but I did have trouble finishing. I didn't notice any lack of sensitivity, except the normal diminishing of sensitivity caused by using a condom. We did everything right, and for a long time, but I just couldn't come. Hmmm, maybe I'll go back to 25 mg or none. But if you want to be hard for a long time, it works.
It looks like the blue vitamin from India is the real deal.
I recently went to my regular doctor for my annual physical and during our chat I mentioned that I would like to try Viagra. He said he didn't see any reason why not. I then asked if he had any samples. He said sure, and later handed me a sample containing six 50mg tablets, with the instructions that I should take 1 or 2, but no more than once per day.
I read the instructions that came with the drug, and one point of interest was the following warning: (paraphrased) If you have an erection that lasts 4 hours or more, contact your doctor immediately. An erection that lasts 6 hours may permanently damage the penis!
So anyway, I got a free sample worth $30 to $50 for my $10 co-payment.
I keep reading about taking a half pill, or a quarter pill. How do you cut the pill? I tried to cut one of my pills with a knife, and wound up completely destroying it.
DonkeyKong
11-29-02, 01:57
DHC;
Go to SAVON amd buy a pill cutter. They are blue in color and cost $4-5. I'm sure it will work better than a knife.
Thats India's way of taking back all the wealth that stolen by the western world...
Originally posted by fatsoNOT
re: Borderguy. Posting on Indian law of patent rights of Viagra and etc. Well, no matter how Indian government spins it, this is just another evidence how the Indian government and its people steal intellectual properties.
"India has always had patent laws which are somewhat different from most countries. It has nothing to do with India being a third world country. It is a long tradition of their legal system". Yup, tht "long tradition" is really stealing and "India has always had patent laws", yup., that patent laws is a third world banana republic laws.
re:Prokofiev. I concur with Joe, there is truly no reason for you to take Viagra if you have no problem to maintain erection. My personal experience is, sex w/ Viagra is not as good as natural. For one, the sensation is not as natural. Also, if you take too much Viagra, you may have problem to achieve ejaculation.
Originally posted by kevin_405
Thats India's way of taking back all the wealth that stolen by the western world...
It is not the matter of stolen in the past. Even today west is menting money from poor countries in the name of development & investment. First they ask to make rules of patent & bla bla aaa.
For expample Viagra can be produced at a price of $ 0.25 (as Cipla is doing in India as there is say "no patent law in force") but is sold at $10. Is it not a cheating with customer?
Soframysin in a tube of 150 gms is available in India & $ 0.50 & this is sold in Thailand at $ 4. Interesting it is manufactured by the same company in both the countries. Why so cheap in India because they can't sell it at higher price against Indian products. So guys the patent laws & intelactual property is to loot the public. Which can not happen in India.
Originally posted by khun
It is not the matter of stolen in the past. Even today west is menting money from poor countries in the name of development & investment. First they ask to make rules of patent & bla bla aaa.
For expample Viagra can be produced at a price of $ 0.25 (as Cipla is doing in India as there is say "no patent law in force") but is sold at $10. Is it not a cheating with customer?
Soframysin in a tube of 150 gms is available in India & $ 0.50 & this is sold in Thailand at $ 4. Interesting it is manufactured by the same company in both the countries. Why so cheap in India because they can't sell it at higher price against Indian products. So guys the patent laws & intelactual property is to loot the public. Which can not happen in India.
this is supply and demand. if there was no market the price would be lower and vice versa.
i have tried V it dose work for me just 1/4 of a tab is good and no side effects but i'm having trouble getting off lately but i think this is a mind (mental) thing, i do enjoy sex with a woman but sometimes when i get to the bedroom i don't seem to feel it to much down below and i ware out physically before i cum and i am a middle age guy is there anything else i should be trying
Since nobody's posted yet a first-hand report on Uprima, I might as well be the first.
While in Koh Samui this month I picked up some Uprima, the Viagra alternative made by Abbot. This is the stuff you place under your tongue and let dissolve. It comes in 2 and 3 milligram sizes, (I used the latter) and it's got different ingredients and works differently than does Viagra, in that Uprima is supposed to stimulate the hypothalamus in the brain for erections as opposed to Viagra's affectation of blood vessels. Supposedly, it easier on the system, including the heart, which should cut down on the amounts of coitus interruptus via cardiac arrest. I picked up and used a packet of 4 tablets, with the price being in the same general range as Viagra, perhaps slightly higher.
My experience was mixed, and I'll confess I've no idea whether it's because the stuff just didn't do it for me or whether I didn't take it properly, but I lean toward the former, as I read and followed the directions pretty carefully. Basically I noticed only a slight difference, not lasting anywhere near as long as a minor dose of Viagra, and in two cases I noticed no difference at all. My sense after reading the various literature and trying Uprima is that it's aimed at a different issue -- those who have trouble getting erections in the first place as opposed to those who have no trouble getting but are unable to satisfactorily maintain them. As I don't at all have the first problem, this wasn't the optimal solution for me.
Whistle830
12-23-02, 21:49
I've tried Viagra once as it was given to me from a sample pack.
I was fortunate to have it on hand as I had been drinking quite a bit with a girlfriend and her friend at a hockey game.
On the way home, it was very apparent that I was going to get my 3-some fantasy fulfilled. Normally for me, a heavy alcohol intake and sex don't mix well. To make a long story short, I came 4 times. To put this in perspective, I'm 42 and have been in a steady relationship for about 11 years. I have a pretty active sex life and usually get it about 3 to 5 times per week. Usually one or two orgasms is good for me and her so I was pretty impressed by the time I came the fourth time. Next thing I knew, bingo, I had another erection and I might have gone for a 5th one if the girls weren't already boinked out.
I don't imagine I'll use Viagra much unless I have some unexpected health problem but I will always keep a tab on hand in case I've had a few too many drinks and another great opportunity arises....
Whistle
the viagra bought from www.generics-online-pharmacy.com is as good as the original viagra but so much cheaper, about 1/4 of the price. 16 tabl of 100 mg sildenafil is just 38$, and as ½ tabl is enough it is just slightly more than 1$. My sexlife has never been better since viagra come, although I don't suffer from erectile dysfunction but without viagra I am not superlover...
soon sildenafils(viagra) young brother Tadalafil(cialis) will be on the market and it will be more poweful and lasts more longer. Merry christmas.
dose anyone know where Uprima can be purchased is it available online or in the United States ,, sorry for my ignorance
UPRIMA
Viagra worked for me, as for most people, but it's nice to try out new things, so I got my medical man to give me a prescription for Uprima.
It didn't work at all. No effect on the brain, no effect on "erectile function". It may have worked without my noticing it, but I have no use for drugs the effect of which I don't notice, so I've crossed out Uprima from my shopping list.
There are other Viagra clones awaiting marketing approval though, and I'm looking forward to experimenting with those.
Vasomax was withdrawn in the US and Europe shortly after it came out, but it is for sale in Brazil ("mesilato de fentolamina"). Could be available in Mexico too, from what I've heard.
AugustaSexFiend
01-04-03, 18:11
Hey everyone, I've never done the viagra yet (not needed yet, though curious about having a 3 or 4 hour boner for whomever's getting it), but has anyone ever heard of SPONTANE-E-S . I work at the post office and we have this stuff coming through here the last couple weeks. They are blue pills and the letters they're in claim that they have same effects or similar to viagra. Anyone know?
A word of caution for those using Viagra and especially those thinking about it. While I am absolutely certain that for the vast majority it's relatively safe, I had an experience that warrants sharing here.
I had gotten a bit complacent about fucking my wife over the last several years when prior to that I was ten hut all the time and we often had sex at least every day.
Since a change in my professional life had dictated a lot of travel I had not had to do before, I suddenly found myself in lots of hotel rooms in strange cities with no one watching me. So naturally curious I started to experiment with strip clubs, then massage parlors, finally escorts and I was off to the races. Man oh man what I had been missing for 20 years!
Well, the wife noticed a diminished interest in banging her ( she's 45 and gettin' fat and has a real mean streak in her ) so she sends me to the doctor who prescribes viagra. Says sometimes as you guys get a little older ( I'm 50 ) you need a little jumpstart, try these. Whoa Nelly! Now I didn't experience 4 hour fuckathons with my wife necessarily, but they did work pretty well so she got what she wanted and I found them to be lots of fun fucking hookers!
Now I hadn't taken very many, but decided to visit a girl I had seen before once along with another girl for a 2 for 1. I stopped at my bar for a couple shots before my appointed time as per usual and while there washed down a Viagra with Tequila all on an empty stomach. Real smart!
Anyway, to make a long story short, I went and did these two girls and it was way wild let me tell you, but when we were done, I found that I was having a lot of trouble catching my breath and my head was sweating uncontrollably. I managed to get dressedeven though I had to stop and get rest several times. I tried a cold washcloth and drinking icewater but nothing helped.
I managed to stagger down the elevator to the street and walk 3 blocks to my parked car. Again I had to stop several times and sit and rest and by the time I reached my car, I had a sharp pain in the middle of my chest, I could barely breath, and was drenched in sweat. I contemplated going into a fire house I had to pass on the way, but rejected that idea. Now in the car, all I could think of was get home...fast! Plus, I remembered that I had told my wife that I was going one place and had gone quite another and explaining what I was doing over there was not something I wanted to do, believe me. So, I drove and as I drove the pain and symptoms just got worse and worse until I was in agony and desperately trying to at least get near home in order to get help as well as cover my tracks. Then the pain shot down my arm and in a flash I knew exactly what was happening to me but still couldn't believe it. I was having a fuckin' heart attack!
In the end, I did make it home, staggered in the house, freaked out my wife who drove me to the hospital ( two minutes away thank God ) and they rushed me to surgery, during which I went into full cardiac and respiratory arrest and literally died on the table. I later discovered that it took them 10 minutes to revive me with electroshock and they were so convinced that I had had it that they sent someone out to tell my wife that it looked bad and that it was likely I was not going to make it. Fooled 'em all!
Anyway, the damage was done and I lost 50% of my heart hat day and I fully believe that although the Viagra didn't directly cause it, that it was a major contributor. So, be cautious guys, especially you older ones, them young girls will fuck you to death.
Mic Jagger
01-06-03, 20:17
Thanks for sharing Trashman, its good to hear you made alright. just curious what was the dosage of viagra you were taking?
I believe the dosage was 50mg.
Lamont Sanford
01-08-03, 04:34
I got into an argument with a friend over Viagra, so I have to ask: Will maintain an erection longer? I say that if someone premature ejaculates, then Viagra will not slow that down, but it will give another erection or maintain the the current one. My friend was arguing that it will slow orgasms for a man. Any answers are welcome! I gotta shut him up, and I hope I am right....
Acaris
El_Critico
01-08-03, 06:40
First off let me say this... I'm not a doctor, nor do I have any special medical knowledge. Do not take any part of this message as advice! I am simply sharing my experience.
I tried Silagra (generic viagra) today. I picked it up from http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com ...the total with shipping for 16 100mg tabs was $40-something. It took about 3 weeks to arrive.
My stats: 34 years old, 185lbs, decent physical shape. About a year ago I noticed my stamina was decreasing so when I heard about this cheap V alternative, I thought what the hell, let's give it a try. Ol' Petey is pretty quick these days to assume half-mass if there's a break in the action. Petey also likes longer naps between outings than he used to and is quick to go into hiding when the action is over (erection gone almost instantly). Without viagra I'm probably good for 3 shots in 2 hours on a decent night. I might be able to go one or two more but it would be a major undertaking and would be more work than fun.
I cut a 100mg tab into quarters and took 1 quarter. In theory I took about 25mg. This is assuming the active ingredients are evenly distributed throughout the tablet, which the support at the website assured me of.
about 1 hour later I started to feel flushed in the face. I recognized this as one of the side effects and knew the fun was about to begin. I'll spare you all the details of the testing phase. Sorry, go buy a Hustler! Anyhow, this stuff works!! I went EIGHT times in 4 hours! Yes E-I-G-H-T and I may go one more!
The first time felt pretty much like usual except the orgasm itself was a little prolonged. If you've ever had an orgasm while stoned, that's kinda what it felt like. Petey went limp a little slower than usual, but not much.
Numbers 2-8 were different. The orgasm was like normal, not prolonged and Petey stayed at attention even after the action was over. I had to beat him down with a stick all 7 times!
Also, the first few times, the long-distance money shot was pretty impressive compared to usual dribble. After 3 times or so I was pumping an almost dry well though.
I've heard it can be hard to orgasm while on the V, but I didn't have any difficulty. As a matter of fact I'd say session #8 went about like my usual session #3, a little work, but not so much as to ruin the fun.
Trashman
as regards your heart attack, maybe read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2641857.stm
I would not like you to have another heart attack at the wrong time. Your wife might be annoyed.
Skinless,
Thank you for this valuable info. It confirms my suspicions that the Viagra was very possibly a contributor to my heart attack. In my case, I did not fit the profile of the typical heart attack victim in that I am not overweight, don't smoke, have very low cholesteral, don't have family history, etc etc. The heart attack in my case was not caused by plaque build up in the blood vessels, but rather a big blood clot in not one but two or more arteries of the heart which caused immediate 100% blockage in those vessels which caused a very rapid onslaught of all the classic symptoms at once including extreme shortness of breath, high chest pain, massive sweats, and extreme pain in not one but both arms. I damn near died before I got to the hospital and they unblocked the arteries. As it turns out they only unblocked one that day and went back in 4 days later to unblock the other one. because the unblocking of the first one was so difficult during which I actually went into full cardiac and respiratory arrest and died on the table for a period exceeding 10 minutes to be revived only after over a half dozen shock treatments to restart the heart. I came to as they were bag breathing me and ready to cease revival efforts!
The blood clots were so pervasive and large in the cardiac arteries that they had great difficulty clearing them using a combination of clot buster drugs and physical intervention by way of running a wire from my groin through the femoral artery up into the heart and using angioplasty baloons to move the clots. Even after the baloon was inflated and then removed the clot wouldn't break loose and continued to form and stay in place. The cardiologist said later that he had never seen anything quite like it and was sweating bullets.
That's why I mentioned all this here to warn others that Viagre CAN be dangerous. I'm not saying it is only can be so use with caution and perhaps cut the dosage. As it was, I will freely admit that I was using it recreationally and that was probably stupid, but I hear of lots of guys doing so.
Trashman, that is some story. Scary.
I am 41, and I recently decided to give Viagra a try, as I am really having a hard time keeping it up for my good friend, namely, my wife. It's less of a problem for other women, but even there I am fading a bit.
Anyway, I have now taken the big blue pill on 4 separate occasions. The result?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
catch-n-release
01-12-03, 14:01
generic viagre TJ...?
any onr e try it..? i went to a pharmacy in TJ and they tried to sell it to me...very cheap...blue pills in same shape as viagra...was nervous to try..so bought the viagra...not happy with the price..15 bucks each..(100mm) also...has anyone had no effects at all with viagra...? i have and it has been hit and miss everytime...even with an empty stomach..?
DonkeyKong
01-13-03, 07:55
catch-n-release;
Purchased Viagra 4/5 times in Tijuana and it didn't work. I perchased Vidrin online here in the U.S. and used it with sucess. I am suspicious that the Viagra might have been counterfeit. It also is no great bargain, as you've pointed out.
for everyone who have use real viagra
or the generic one (http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com)
I have never use the V before so i need abit info before i bought it ( I plan to order the 50 mg at http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com )
Is it addictive? i am afraid that i will depend on this drug to have fun
Thanks
Tried Viagra for the first time down in Buenos Aires. Never have had a problem getting it up but the second time is kinda up and down when condoms are involved.
Based on board advice, I took half a pill the first time (half a 50 mg pill) and it did not do anything noticeable even though I took the other half when I wasn't noticing anything. The other three times I took the whole pill and definitely noticed it was easier to get it up, harder to get it off, and I stayed hard even after I cam.
Now I just read Trashman's post and it scares me. I am also in good shape, excellent really, and no history of heart disease. I just got a little flushed feeling and bit a of a headache initially after taking it, normally gone by the time the girl arrived.
I think maybe anyone who is going to take it should have a complete physical first.
Dickhead, I now many have already said it. But once again, thanks for your hilarious posts regarding BA.
Concerning Viagra, It works great on me. Better with 50mg than 25. It depends how aroused I am. I also take it on an empty stomach (at least 3 hours after a meal) to have quicker and more powerful assimilation into my system.
I will say that it works on the plumbing, enabling erections. But it won´t do a thing if desire does not follow, that is, if we are not aroused.
I feel all the consequences though. Flushing in the face. High sensitivity to light. The next day when I wake up, I feel very tired/drowsy, and find it hard to breathe.
The most serious or preocupying part of taking vitamin V is the impact on my heart rate. I indeed fell my heart beat increase quite a bit and so I can understand the near death experience faced recentlly by a forum member.
To counteract this, I take Valerian, a plant that regulates the heart rate at the same time I take Vitamin V. I believe it works (to a certain extent). Valerian is totally legal and sold everywhere
Has anyone else tried this combination?
Hope it helps.
B69, I did not notice any side effects other than the brief headache. I felt perfectly normal the next day. Tired maybe, but I attributed that to staying up all night fucking and only getting a few hours' sleep. I did not feel flushed for very long at all. I did not notice a rapid heartbeat. I did take 50 mg. after the initial experiment. I was aware that it does no good as far as CREATING arousal but I am fortunately or unfortunately constantly aroused so that is not an issue.
The day I notice a rapid heartbeat is the day I resolve not to take it any more. Maybe one factor is that I have a very low resting pulse, about 60, from years of regular aerobic exercise. Oftentimes after sex (disregarding Viagra) I am sweating so much and breathing so hard and panting so much that the woman is worried and I actually thought I was sweating and panting LESS the nights I used the V. No idea why that might be.
DH
Viagra
Two things should be borne in mind:
1) Viagra counterfeits are big business worldwide, so don't dismiss Viagra before you've tried the real one (i.e. get a prescription from your doctor and buy it from your local chemist's!). I'm for buying generic, cheaper drugs whenever the occasion arises, only I don't do so with Viagra.
2) Deaths while under Viagra are common because Viagra typically works for several hours after the pill is taken. During all this time, people don't stop dying from various causes. If this were the case, Viagra would be a life-prolonging medication and people could become immortal by taking one Viagra dose after another.
Good point in general, though I'd make some distinctions here, particularly on counterfeits. Silagra and Penagra are exact copies of Viagra manufactured in India using different manufacturing efforts, so as not to violate Indian copyright law, and as long as you're getting clearly labelled and sealed pills of these kinds you should still be fine. No question there are lots of other counterfeits around, but an awful lot of them look exactly like the blue pills, so it's best to make sure you buy them in original packaging as opposed to in bulk. And while people do keep dying of various causes, there's little question that for some people Viagra can cause heart stress and thereby problems, as increased heart activity is definitely one of the long-reported side-effects, and reports of heart failure have consistently been reported since Viagra's release. Not to mention the fact that heart attacks during coitus are not uncommon in older men in any event.
Point taken, but I suspect Viagra has saved more lives than the opposite because it is known to lower blood pressure ever so slightly. High blood pressure (hypertension) is the killer, not low blood pressure, though the latter is unpleasant.
The side-effects I've had consistently are headaches. Lowering the dose (50 mg instead of 100 mg) has helped, as well as drinking alcohol moderately (one or two pints of beer). Taking one prescription-free painkiller as a matter of course is also a good idea.
Can't make omelettes without breaking eggs.
Guys, I would point out that I am very sure that I am the exception rather than the rule in terms of my problem with Viagra, nor can I definitively say that it caused the heart attack. Evidence points to it and my cariologist, who is the only one I told about it agrees, but remember that I just happened to have certain conditions that made the normally safe and beneficial effects not safe. Until and if you know that you have similar problems ( have a physical and when the doc does the blood work for the usual cholesteral and stuff, ask him to check Homosystein (sp?) and particularly C Reactive Protein levels which can both be indicators of higher liklihood of an artery plaque rupture occurring. If you have this condition as I did, although your overall health and cholesteral etc are good, you can be a heart attack out of the blue candidate and in this situation, Viagra can act as a catalyst.
Hello all,
thanks for the info for the generic viagra (http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com), the V has arrive today
However, since this is my first time using this product.
Can Anyone brief on how to use it safelly.
I bought the 50mg, should i cut in half (25mg) for starter?
Anyone who have use the V from the company have any problem?
Sorry for the long question, i am excited but worry a bit.
Thank you
LukeSkyWanker
02-07-03, 16:04
Hello Zero cut it in half and use 50mg, I use Silagra from Generics online and buy 100mg tabs I have found no extra benefit taking a full 100mg so it is much better to use half. The cost of 100mg tabs compared to 50 is negligible so you may aswell buy 100s and get twice the number of good sessions.
I'd start with a 25mg dose by cutting them in half, and if that doesn't do the trick then go to the full tab. How much you need depends entirely on your situation and how your body reacts to them. I agree with LukeSkyWanker, though -- the 100mgs are a better deal than the 50s.
Thanks for the tips, I'll post my finding soon!
Bronco69962
02-10-03, 13:29
I am going to be travelling to India (Mumbai) and would like to try the inexpensive viagra generic. Does anyone know if a prescription (Doctors Note) required to purchase this drug from a pharmacy?
Unfortunately, I can't live without viagra - I say unfortunately because of the side effects. I started off with 25 mgs, which rarely worked, moved up to 50 mgs, which still sometimes failed, before finding comfort with the 100 mg version, which always does the trick, sexually speaking. My side effects are headaches, heart burn, and sinus congestion. I can't wait for something else to come along that doesn't have these associated problems.
Hey Fluff,
Though I haven´t tried it yet, Cialis has been out in the market for a couple of months. Same active ingredient as Viagra. It is considered to be an improvement: longer lasting and with fewer side effects. Check it out.
Coming out soon is Levitra from Bayer. Also supposed to be an improvement.
I too will probably wish to switch to one of these to avoid the side effects.
Good luck.
short update on the generic viagra.
But the 50mg, cut into half, so roughly 25mg.
got a nice woody but not really notice difference in stamina,
Still cannot go more than one pop.
Side effect my face really blush and some sinus congestion.
I know when I tried viagra just to see what happened, the side effects suck but you do get some good stamina at times, not consistently.
Apparently a new pill tadalafil, spelling may be wrong, is supposed to be an improvement.
Cialis
Isn't Cialis suppose to work for up to 24 hours, instead of just 6 hours for Viagra?
I'd rather stick to Viagra in spite of the known side-effects. Even if Cialis has lower side-effects, they'll be with you for longer.
Regarding Viagra headaches: taking an Ibuprofen tablet right from the start and/or drinking moderately (three glasses of beer at the most in an evening) has worked for me.
xxl
Does everyone know ALL the side effects of Viagra? I use the 50mg ones, after my doctor checked me out thoroughly. My high blood pressure med causes me a little side effect, thus the viagra.
If you take vitamin V, erections that last more than two hours can be dangerous. If this happens, My doctor said head straight for the ER! Tissue damage can occur and Mr. Happy can go limp for good. If you feel dizzy or lightheaded, the V is raising your BP too high, so you should back off. Painful or bloody urine indicates yet another problem and see a doctor ASAP. Just thought everyone should know.
C
It's really funny how even doctors still can't agree. I go to a good urologist/oncologist featured in Top 100 US doctors mag. When I asked about the warning of erection over 4 hours, he blew it off. I had some other problems which I thought were related to V. After many tests, scans, and scopes, he finds no cause. Fortunately, mr Happy works fine, except a for a little side effect, which he says is not related to V either. I used take a 50 mg and quarter it, but eventually just stopped using it for now.
I've never posted in this section, but there are some of my posts in the Mexico City section. I'm 32, average weight, healthy to my knowledge. I've never been the Sex Marathon Man even as a teen, but I usually manage very nicely like 75% of the time, which I think is pretty normal. Lack of physical condition and excessive daytime stress are even then likely to be the cause of my trouble.
I recently experimented with Viagra. Loved every minute of it. However, questions:
I first took 50mgs at 10AM. Full effect came in thirty minutes, I had a hard-on that lasted over an hour to start with, went at it most of the day and still felt the effects the next morn. No flushing, a minor headache. Next tryout, 25 mg. Same effect, but not as immediately noticeable. Lasted for maybe 6-8 hours. Less headache. Next 2 tries, 12 mg each (or somewhere close). Effect is very well defined, lasts 3 hours and on one case, overnight. No secondary effects at all.
The stamina and ease of erection improves clearly and immediately in any dose.
Have I found a magic 12mg. dose? Maybe I dont really need it, and just suffer performance anxiety? Has anyone tried the 12 mg dose? Is there a habituation effect known to long time users?
Thanxs
PeterPaul
peterpaul,
Sounds to me like you're a normal guy. Any guy who says he's never had any erection problems is full of it. What you did is what my doctor told me to do, cut the pill down and see if it's just enough medicine for what I want.
I've learned that if I'm drop dead exhausted, and take the 50Mg, nothing happens. Sometimes you just need rest. Other times, I've taken half and it's lasted overnight, with 3-5 erections in a 12 hour period. In fact, it does seem to prompt more erections over about two days when I take the full 50Mg. The headaches do bother me, so I cut it in half and take that when I think I need it.
C
I did not beleive the viagria b/s but on my last trip to cartegena col I bought the generic pills and went on a complete fucking spree of 14 chics in 5 days when i went to peru 3 days later was barely able to be with 1 woman a day viagria free. I am a 33 yo a tad overweight with no erection problems .my point is the shit works >I took half a pill so in the 5 days I took 3 pills
New to this forum and found it very informative.
I have some experience trying natural herbs like Yohimbe, Ginseng and practising PC muscle contracting everyday. It really help in maintain erection and prolong ejaculation. However, these natural herb does not provide instant effect.
I'm 25 and has a girl friend. I can easily get an erection without help from hand/blow job. My sexual capability enhanced afer I use natural herb and contract/release of PC muscle. But, it only works for my GF (I can't have same sexual performance with erotic *****, I am explained detail in next paragraph) and I need a long rest in order to go for 2nd time. Recently, I am travelling a lot and expose to some Russian and Latin America erotic chics. I found myself has problem in getting erection and has quick ejaculation problem during blowjob. May I know is anyway to resist it?
I tried to use cock-ring, desensitized spray and it does not work.
I have ask for advises from internet sexual doctor, they said I am too sexual aroused by experience ***** and advise me to try their product containing 5-UTP (kind of anti-depression). May I know is anyone tried kind of product before ? Will it stabilize my hyper-excited emotion when a new 'explorer' like me encounter with a experienced *****? Hence I am thinking of taking Viagra to gain better erection. I believe if erection is gained, it will help to build up confience and so prolong the sexual activities.
Do you think it will help?
There is a medication called proviron, that is taken with steriods, dianabol, because it prevents water retention and the formation of breasts in males. One side effect though is it will give you a constant erection without going down. You even have to watch the dosage or it will stay up for a considerable time.
I was recently given a sample pack by my urologist just beacuse he had so many and wanted to get rid of them. So I tried a 50mg., just to masturbate. I got a real bad headache and alot of the side effects assoaciate with it. Didnt even get a half way decent hard on.
Then about a week later I had an opportunity with a woman so I took in advance, however, this time I took a handful of aspirin with it. But circumstances were such that we ouldn't get together that night. So I jerked off awith a rock hard dick. Explosive orgasm though not much more volume than normal.
Woke up with a hard on that I jerked off and went about my day. Had no headaches or side effects the following day like the first time I took it.
Well over the next couple of day I was feeling the positive effects of the drug. I think about sex and get a hard on and then when the opportunity presented it self with the woman I was rock hard, rigid like a pole... we tried positions we had not tried before because I could not get that hard.
Now this is five days after the taken it and I still am feeling some of the effects though they have lessened since day one.
I think my weekly routine will be to pop one at the beginning of the week and just let it do its course for the week.
Question--100 mg is it harmful and are the side effects very bad or not? I think a 100mg at the begiining of the week will last me the full seven days.
Wingwagon-
You are living, breathing proof of the placebo effect!
Viagra has a half life, in the body, of about 4 hours. A smaller doese than 25mg has very little effect on anyone.
Ergo: If you took a 50mg pill before you went to bed at night then you wuld probably have some 'help' with the morning stiffy. The effects would be completely gone by lunch time. No significant amount left in the system.
Don't bother trying to medicate in advance of need, Viagra does not work that way, there are others that fit that usage pattern better. Just take it when you are likley to need it. A typical strategy might be to take 25mg before you go home with your 'bride of the night', by the time you are home and ready to roll the vitamin V will probably be providing its supporting role.
Dusty-Bin:
I must also be a living, walking proof of the same placebo effect... I take 12-20mgs (eighths, fifths of a 100mg pill) and the effect is strong and noticeable for 2-3 hours. I'm 34, normal, etc. The effect is actually much faster and sustained erection, no repeat performance, etc. It also usually carries on to the next morning if I'm not too exhausted before sleep.
With a 25 mg dose I usually get a spontaneous (meaning no exciting thoughts or acts, just walking or driving, etc.) rock-hard erection about 20-35 minutes after taking dose, that lasts about 15 minutes and recedes of its own. In this case the effect is the same as above, only a bit stronger and lasts maybe 4-5 hours.
The only time I tried 50mg (my first time) I had sex only once (for about an hour) but was standing on attention on and off for maybe 12 hours. Of course, secondary effects really kick in but Aspirin could be the answer (it was that time).
I've been trying this for maybe a couple of months, bout twice a week, and have gone through nearly 3 of the 100mg pills.
Your advice about intake time is correct in my opinion. A 7-day effect is of course absurd.
Cheers!
Peterpaul
James D 2004
05-02-03, 22:20
I don't have much problem because sometimes when I go to see my favorite Korean girl, she think I'm on something when we embrace each other, while I wasn't. However, I took viagra for a better quality of erection. And 50 mg worked for me.
Time for refill, I thought of new drugs. But I saw viagra softab. It's the same drug but compounded into a candy form to melt under the tongue. Instead of half of a 100 mg pill, half of a candy of 40 mg (20mg) is enough. And it worked. It's much easier to cut the candy form than the pill. It ended up more expensive, but it's suppose to work in 20 min. Considering that the new drugs cannot be much faster, and that they are expensive now, I stick to viagra in the new form. Viagra pill is a bit fast for me, as soon as 45 min. The softab must have worked in less than 30 min, who's counting. I feel the same blush in my face soon after I took it under my tongue. There's less side effect such as headache afterwards.
Happy with it. Candy form is easy to store and handle. I'm willing to try generic as well but couldn't find reliable pharmacy. Would like more info. The last thing I want is for the online store not to response in a week, and I don't know whether they will satisfy the order or not. I think the pharmacy is very important especially for generics. I used Kiwimed for viagra. Good and overnight delivery. But now they don't send to PO boxes. So I used levin-rx (spell?). Also reliable overnight delivery. Even a little bit cheaper.
My side effect is that I can do whoever mamasan send me. That's a horrible after thought, that is, when you think about what you have done.
William Hauger
05-11-03, 17:12
Hello
Viagra prolongs the intercouse considerably, you will not have an orgasm as quickly and you get it up faster the second time and the third...
50 mg is the recommended dose,and in my experience sufficient.
Have a long good fuck
William
I've enjoyed the benefits of Vitamin V for a little while now - 50 mg gives me multiple, long-lasting erections for many hours, and in some cases, the next morning. Unfortunately, I experience the side effects as well. The flush of the skin on my face and ears is no big deal, but I also get the headaches. I've seen people on this board mention aspirin and ibuprofen, but does anyone have the definitive word on what is safest and most effective to use with Viagra? Does it not matter?
I've enjoyed the benefits of Vitamin V for a little while now - 50 mg gives me multiple, long-lasting erections for many hours, and in some cases, the next morning. Unfortunately, I experience the side effects as well. The flush of the skin on my face and ears is no big deal, but I also get the headaches. I've seen people on this board mention aspirin and ibuprofen, but does anyone have the definitive word on what is safest and most effective to use with Viagra? Does it not matter?
James D 2004
05-12-03, 21:41
The recommended dose for softab is 20 mg compared to 50 mg pill form. It worked for me. Less blush on the face and no headache at all. I had mild headache for the old pills. The price is higher but not that much difference.
Thought this artical moght be interesting to some of you.
FOR PHARMACEUTICAL FIRMS, billions of dollars in sales are at stake. For five years, Pfizer has had Viagra in the pole position in the market to treat erectile dysfunction, or E.D.
But soon two new anti-impotence drugs could challenge Viagra for the lead. The companies making and marketing them claim the products take effect as much as half an hour sooner than Viagra and that one of them lasts several hours longer...a day or more.
According to an Securities and exchange Commission filing, Pfizer sold one-point-seven billion dollars worth of Viagra last year accounting for by one outside estimate 5 to 10 percent of the company’s profit.
But analysts and medical experts say that’s just a piece of the potential market for E.D. drugs.
“It’s probably well over 5 billion if you can get to all those individuals and treat them,” said Mara Goldstein, drug sector analyst at CIBC WorldMarkets.
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In a Viagra commercial, former presidential candidate Bob Dole says, “It’s a little bit embarrassing to talk about E.D., but it’s so important to millions of men and their partners.” But despite his best efforts to educate the public on behalf of Pfizer, there’s still a lack of knowledge about and a stigma attached to E.D. More than 30 million American men are estimated to have E.D., but fewer than 25 percent of them have done anything about it.
“There’s a huge pool of patients out there that have not yet sought treatment for this condition,” said Dr. Andy McCullough, a urologist at New York University.
That’s why Eli Lilly and a Nasdaq-traded biotech called Icos have teamed up to make Cialis, the pill that’s supposed to last at least a day. And two overseas companies, GlaxoSmithKline and Bayer have partnered on Levitra.
After receiving European approval Cialis and Levitra have been competing against each other and Viagra for the past two to three months.
The companies will not release sales figures yet.
But there are reports Cialis is taking market share from Viagra.
The battle for mindshare is another story...the French have already nicknamed Cialis “Le Weekend” for its long-acting properties.
“The moniker ‘Le Weekend’ drug is quite helpful because people see the flexibility into it,” said Mark Barbato, executive director at Lilly.
Of course, Lilly’s competitors disagree. “We don’t think men want a product that lasts too long in their body,” said David Pernock, senior marketing vice president at GlaxoSmithKline.
“Really for your average middle-aged patient in the U.S., it’s really not relevant to have the drug around for 48 hours when sexual activity is generally completed within the first three or four,” said Dr. Michael Sweeney at Pfizer.
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Dr. McCullough has participated in separate research on Viagra, Cialis and Levitra. But he says until all three products have been compared to one another in a controlled study, it’s hard to tell which one he’ll prefer to prescribe. “I think we should be cautious about making direct comparisons between the three drugs. There have been no scientific trials that have been published to compare the three drugs,” he said.
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Little more than half of the American men who have gotten a prescription for Viagra...have had it refilled. It could be because the little blue pill makes some users literally see blue, or because it isn’t recommended to be taken too close to meals.
But the new drugs — which don’t have those problems — are not without other potential side-effects, like headaches and facial flushing for Levitra, and head, back and bellyaches for Cialis.
The FDA is also concerned Levitra could cause an abnormal heartbeat and sudden death.
“To my knowledge there’s no evidence in the trials that Levitra is detrimental to the heart,” Dr. McCullough said, adding that he and others expect Cialis might encounter the same scrutiny when it reaches that stage in the approval process.
The potential heart-related side effects of Glaxo’s Levitra will be the topic of an FDA advisory committee meeting Thursday, and if the company clears that hurdle, full FDA approval could be just weeks away.
Analysts believe Levitra — which is further along — will get to market first, perhaps by late summer. But Cialis should also win FDA approval by the end of the year.
“While marketing textbooks would always indicate sooner is better than later, I think in this case you start with the molecule and how good it is. There are a number of examples in our business where the better molecule wins out,” Barbato said.
Unless, that is, one of the molecules happens to be named Viagra. “Very often you find the drug that has the largest market share is not necessarily the best product, but it’s the one that’s the most well known out there,” CIBC’s Goldstein said.
The race in the U.S. has yet to begin, but analysts and medical experts say there’s reason for E.D. sufferers and investors to get excited about two new drugs being on track to compete.
“I think these are fascinating times because now we will have an alternative to the one drug,” Dr. McCullough said.
James D 2004
05-29-03, 12:21
I looked at the other options. They aren't FDA approved yet I think. To get it from Europe costs you an arm and a leg.
With softab, the two main problems are overcome. It dissolves under the tongue so it doesn't go through the digestive system. It acts faster, 20 min, and I don't fast (not eating) anymore. It doesn't 'last' as long as the other drugs, but as long as it's fast acting, you can always take another pill, which is unlikely for most people. Short lasting is not necessarily a bad thing.
The disadvantage I saw is that when the softab is dissolving under your tongue, you better not doing anything else, like drinking, smoking etc, to avoid swallowing the medicine into your stomach, instead of absorbing under the tongue.
Member #1553
05-30-03, 00:48
I travel to latin countries, mainly the DR in recent times and I have never used any type of Viagra. I want to try out a generic brand of Viagra but do not know the names of it in latin countries or the Dominican Republic, I don't want to be ripped off and sold something that is BS. I don't want to take too much, just see what 25MG does for me, maybe it will help my stamina and help me keep it up after the first round more rapidly. Generic brand that can be purchased in the DR is what I really seek. Thank you.
wolverine7l
I told my doctor I was having problems maintaining an erection so he gave me a prescription for viagra (50 mg). He said it takes effect after about 20 minutes and the effect is more pronounced on an empty stomach (as opposed to recently eating a meal high in fat.) I'm 43 yrs old and in excellent health (low blood pressure and resting heart rate) due to two decades of biking and running. My game plan is take it in the morning when I wake up to piss and then go back to bed and screw my wife. Would I be better off taking half a pill (25 mg) to lessen the side effects? Anyone here have experience taking this medicine in the morning on an empty stomach?
Well the stuff is amazing for me. Pfizer viagra from the web out of an Arizona company to here in San Diego, $15 total per pill including FedEx and everything else for my first order, 10 pills. Starts working fine after 30 minutes and then it takes about 30 seconds to get fully hard. Not perfect, because in my 20's I got it up in 5 to 10 seconds. Only side effects are flushing red in the face. No dizziness. A ncie giddy feeling though, like it's almost an anti-depressant that I've heard it can be.
My first pill in Tijuana, Mexico about 45 minutes prior to being with a girl at the Adelita Bar. 30 seconds to erection and it stayed hard even after I was finished with her in the hotel room. $60 for her by the way. So I kept going, two more girls both street walkers a couple blocks away. And when it went soft it only took a little over half a minute to get fully up again. Thank god for this drug. After I went home it was still working 12 hours later because I could jack off and it still only took me half a minute to 45 seconds to get it up with my hand.
Oh, and I went back to Tijuana a week later and half a pill works with the same success. Except it wears off in around 8 hours.
By the way my problem started at age 45, I developed partial loss of sensation on the left side of my body and it took me 3 or 4 minutes to get hard and it would go soft anywhere from a few seconds later to a couple minutes later. And a half hard on or no hard on was the norm. The doctors did a scan but it came up negative. I never told him about the erection problem and he, the nuerologist, didn't ask. He said it must be a partial blood flow problem as far as the partial loss of feeling and the slight numbness on the left side. Put up with that for 3 years. Now at 48 it's almost back to normal, relatively quick hard on after the 30 minutes from taking the pill, and lasting about as long as I could before my problems started.
Never got or took any viagra earlier for various reasons, all of which are probably stupid. Like I didn't want to deal with the embarassing questions a doctor would ask prior to getting a sample of the pill. And I was wary of getting ripped off on the net. Well the Arizona company is for real, my first shot at ordering.
PhilT
Thanks for the encouraging news Philt. I paid a $30 copay for 10 tablets. I visited my doc last week to get some meds for my sinuses, so I decided I may as well tell him about my erection difficulties. My erection problems started when I was 39. Prior to that age my wife didn't need to do much to get me hard in seconds. Now it takes at least a few minutes of stroking just to get me semi hard and then I lose momentum when I slip on a condom. Very frustrating for both of us. I'm anxious to try this stuff, especially if I can recover quickly for a second round.
Hey Gino,
Quite a few times I have taken Viagra in the morning (50mg), right after waking up. On an empty stomach. And I have not felt any different than when I take it in the afternoon or evening on an empty stomach as well.
Basically the side effects of taking it in the morning is the same as anytime. It wears me down a bit. So around noon, I feel tired.
Hope this helps.
DiabloMactavish
06-28-03, 12:01
I know that probably all of us have gotten some of these stupid "increase your size with this amazing pil", and "herbal viagra".
Here's an article on one of the companies that just got busted for fraud:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/921042.asp
Be smart.
In Cambodia and Thailand we've got Veetab or sildenafil which is the generic of Viagra. 12$ for 20 50mg tabs. Incredable stuff. I acheive titanium before I can get my pants off with 50mg. Available at all pharmacies.
Good luck!
Hi,
I have seen a lot of advertising around a Viagra-type of pill, under the name of Actra-RX. It is distributed by a company Body Basics. They claim hard erections for 8-10 hours and the pill is based on Chinese enzyme-based ingrediente. And no side effects.
Has anybody tried it or have any info on this ?
Their web site is: www.intimaxx.com
The other night I ran into an old friend before I could get home to cut my 100 mg Viagra in half so I took 100 mg for the first time and I noticed absolutely NO difference between 100 and 50.
DH,
the few times I have taken 100mg, I have noticed better penile performance (in terms of erections, etc.) but not that much more. However, the side effects (increased heart rate, flushing, etc.) were more powerful and notable.
Originally posted by b69
DH,
the few times I have taken 100mg, I have noticed better penile performance (in terms of erections, etc.) but not that much more. However, the side effects (increased heart rate, flushing, etc.) were more powerful and notable. I just discovered this topic in WSG. I want to report on my success geting Viagra from India. Go to www.generics-online-pharmacy.com The cost for the 100mg is quite less than that from the States. Like about $2.50 vs $11 a pill. This is approx. It is secure and you order it registered and you have to sign for it. It comes in a plain envelope and looks like a magazine. I have it sent to po box to avoid questions. It takes up to 28 days to receive it. I have ordered it 3 times now and received it ok. JJ
Originally posted by Zero
Hello all,
thanks for the info for the generic viagra (http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com), the V has arrive today
However, since this is my first time using this product.
Can Anyone brief on how to use it safelly.
I bought the 50mg, should i cut in half (25mg) for starter?
Anyone who have use the V from the company have any problem?
Sorry for the long question, i am excited but worry a bit.
Thank you I scrolled down to this post and even thou it was posted several months I will try to answer. I get the 100mg. I take 100mg if I have a important enough "date". I have cut them down to 50mg and 25 mg for different girls. Some girls get me off more than others. I am sure this is true with all of you.. I am 69 yers old and do not have a heart problem. I take dilantin for seizures. No problem so far. I have taken them about 50 times. The stuff is completly safe for me. I don't know about your health. If you have a heart problem and take nitro etc. I think you have to watch out. My brain docter would not prescribe nor my internal guy as they were hedging their bets. I just lie when somebody asks my age. I knock off 20 years of my birth date. I am a risk taker. YMMV JJ
Originally posted by b69
DH,
the few times I have taken 100mg, I have noticed better penile performance (in terms of erections, etc.) but not that much more. However, the side effects (increased heart rate, flushing, etc.) were more powerful and notable. I just discovered this topic in WSG. I want to report on my success geting Viagra from India. Go to www.generics-online-pharmacy.com The cost for the 100mg is quite less than that from the States. Like about $2.50 vs $11 a pill. This is approx. It is secure and you order it registered and you have to sign for it. It comes in a plain envelope and looks like a magazine. I have it sent to po box to avoid questions. It takes up to 28 days to receive it. I have ordered it 3 times now and received it ok. JJ
Hey J Jones,
Thanks for the recommendation on the Indian Viagra webpage. I know this page but have never used it. Now I have another confirmation that is is trustworthy. So, I will definitely consider it.
Thanks.
Has anyone heard or tried something being marketed as a generic Viagra called Vigrex? It is suppose to contain the same active ingrediant, Sildenafil Citrate, as in Viagra. I think there are also other pills with different names but they all proclaim to have the same active ingrediant. Any comments inthis area would be appreciated.
For those of you who have health care coverage at work, you might want to check if V is cover in your plan. I recently found out that it is covered under our group plan with United Health Care. So now I can order 15 100 gr Vs a month for $20. What a deal!
Sinverg Wenza
08-01-03, 13:23
Hello,
I would like to share my limited but first hand experience with Cialis.
I'm 37 and healthy. I use vitamin V sometimes to feel like 18 yr. old. It helps me when I go mongering and many times it has saved a session when the SW didn't have a good attitude, and it has improved many when she had it.
I usually break a 50mg pill in 4, so each dose is about 12.5mg (really 10-15mg) I get very good, lasting erections. I get blush in the face, and the effect wears off softly in 4-5 hours, then I get some headache.
A few weeks ago I got a pack of Cialis (4 pills), the new Viagra competitor, which is said to last the whole weekend. Cialis comes in 10mg and 20mg doses. I got the 10mg pills.
Assuming similar results as V, I thought I'd rather cut the pills in two so I would take 5mg each time. This also was a precaution measure and it seemed to me it would be safe. It was, indeed. No noticeable effects after two hours, so I decided to have the other half. One hour later, I finally noticed the effects but the erection seemed like an ordinary one, not as powerful as it is with V. The effect did last for several days, during which I noticed it is easier for me to get erections (needing much less stimulation).
I let a couple of weeks pass by and took the full pill in the first place. The effects were similar. It worked in about one hour and the effect also lasted three days.
Conclusion, Cialis is sold for about the same price as Viagra, but to me, Viagra is cheaper (since I split it four ways) and more effective. Since I only use it to enhance some of the mongering experiences, I don't think the persistent effect is enough of a reason to switch. I think I'll stick to Viagra.
Sinverg
Silver Tibby
08-20-03, 18:41
Hello I was wondering if anyone could tell me where I could purchase Cialis, I have used vitamin V in the past and it worked great for me.. But I would really like to try Cialis, anyone have any suggestions, online preferably?
STibby
I ordered from www.generics-online-pharmacy.com on August 6 but have not received my shipment. I tried to email them today and my email was bounced back to me with the following message:
<support@generics-online-pharmacy.com>: host 202.157.186.51[202.157.186.51]
said: 554 5.7.1 Message cannot be accepted, content filter rejection reject
RFC 822 (in reply to end of DATA command)
anybody had a similar experience or can explain this bounce message?
DropFrame: This "company" just begun in 2003, uses a Manila po box. It also have a very simple payment method (you can only buy one item at a time). Did you get this through a spam? That would be consistent with rejecting your email bounce.
Silver Tibby,
Cialis (tadalafil), is available from a number of online store e.g.
http://www.buy-cheap-cialis-online.com/
or
https://www.getpharma.com/Affiliates/secure_order/order.asp
or
http://www.directpharmacyrx.com/?CFID=4371458&CFTOKEN=19788191
Just do a search online and are ready to order. I get quite a bit of stuff from the above for myself as well for private patients: however, I've no experience with tadalafil from these sites…
Regards, Havanaman
PS.. I have no commercial interests in the above sites…
J Jones
I received the following email from www.generics-online-pharmacy.com after I did not get my shipment:
Hello,
We will track your order and let you know about the outcome. Of course you will get a full refund in case it got lost. Please let me know if you receive it meanwhile.
Tracking takes some time as it goes all the way and back by post, it is not the same as tracking a courier shipment. Please refer to our disclaimer for the time frame allowed. It might take a while but in the end you either get the product or a full refund. Please contact us again in case you get no notification from us the next 42 days.
Best regards
Marc
I had a similar experience with www.generics-online-pharmacy.com earlier this year, after 30 days my order still haven’t show up then I received the exact same reply as DropFrame after I contacted the company, but it is cheap enough so I went ahead and place a second order. Second order showed up within 10 days then my first order showed up after 40+ days. At the end, I got what I needed and I am happy.
I have been ordered from www.generics-online-pharmacy.com since 2002, they used to be a lot quicker.
South Star
09-25-03, 21:54
My experience with Viagra:
I have multiple sclerosis, and I have lost a little bit of skin perception, so my erections don't last enough for a satisfactory sexual experience. Since I take 50 mg of Viagra, I have erections of 3-4 hours, then I go to sleep, and at the next morning I can attack once again.
I feel like I was born again.
Does anyone know if Viagra is allowed thru customs in Japan without a prescription? I get my V from Mexico w/o prescription and bring it into the US secretly.
Japan has such stern warnings about bringing medications into Japan and I don't see any info on V. I definitely want to avoid an embarrassing encounter at the airport.
Thanks.
Does anyone know if Viagra is allowed thru customs in Japan without a prescription? I get my V from Mexico w/o prescription and bring it into the US secretly.
Japan has such stern warnings about bringing medications into Japan and I don't see any info on V. I definitely want to avoid an embarrassing encounter at the airport.
Thanks.
Bottom Line
10-04-03, 00:12
Re: Sertraline (Brand Name Zoloft)
Does anyone have any experience of this as a way to delay ejaculation?
Question regarding dosage of either Viagra or Levitra.
Both say ONE DOSE PER DAY -
Let's say the DOC approves 50 mg "V" or 20 mg "L" but you can get good results with 1/2
Anyone know why you cannot take 1/2 dose and then 2-3 hours later the other half dose to make it last longer.
Looks like each pill has about a 3 hour half life -
I finally received my order from India. The problem was here in the good old USA Postal Service.
Last night I did 50mg and had an erection that lasted several hours.
Couldn't be happier!!
Does anyone know if Viagra is available over the counter and without prescription, in Prague? Travelling there in 2 weeks and don't have time to go the mail order route.
Thanks.
I ordered from www.generics-online-pharmacy.com on 9/28
and received my order today with no problems, about 23 days total. You can't beat the price if you don't mind the wait.
Dave
Gastroller
10-23-03, 22:52
Has anyone had any luck or experience with any of the over the counter stuff? I've seen a lot of ads regarding Enzyte and was wondering if it even came close to the big V.
James D 2004
10-24-03, 14:52
I tried WorldExpressRX for the first time because nobody else allows PO box anymore. When I enquire the order after more than a month, they say out of stock. Refund is promised but I won't use it again.
Can anyone help? Fast delivery to US PO box, Levitra or Viagra softtab, generic or original.
The cheepest way I have found for Viagra is see your DOC and have him write prescription for the large dose 50 or 100mg.?They cost just a little more than the small dose and you just break them in half .And while your there ask for a handful of sample pack's(5 to the pack)and every time you go back ask for more samples.The DOCS are more than happy to give them up as they are flooded with samples from the drug co.I get 3-5 every visit which about pays for the office visit Good luck Dr.D.
James D 2004
10-31-03, 14:01
I tried eDrugstore.md instead. Tried Levitra. Fast reliable shipping, as good as kiwimed, or any US based stores. I think fairly good price with no prescription charges. Delivery to PO box. The catch is, although they mail the pills in a standard small USPS standard box, on it they have the name of the pharmacy in Spanish from Miami. The name is something like family pharmacy but everybody will have guessed.
The box is of course discrete but you have to sign for it in front of the post office queue. The bad thing is that these pharmacies never worry the sound of pills shaking in the box. They don't fill the box so the small container roams freely inside the box. And the pills roams freely in the container. Last time the woman shake the package fiercely when she was carrying the package up to the counter. This time the man didn't shake it. And I carefully take the box and walk like a model pass the queue. They are really noisy this time.
Since the lowest dose pills are 5 mg, I cut the 20 mg pills into 10 mg with my Viagra pill cutter. I would have cut it into 5 mg if the pill weren't too small to handle. Can't say it's faster than V but I didn't fast and the effect will sure come out somewhat sooner than the recommended 1 hr. I test drive in the afternoon with a dry run. By some accidental touch by some objects, I had an erection in the evening and another the next morning. No side effects. I had minor side effects with V.
Marconista
11-05-03, 12:37
Gents,
I placed an order with http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com on October 24, received an email-confirmation on Oct.25, and received 16pcs of 100mg tablets of "Silagra" (Generec Viagra/Sildenafil-Citrate) in Oslo/Norway today, November 5, which is 13 days from I placed the order. Postage-stamp on the envelope is Oct.30 in Mumbai/Bombay. Excellent. The cost, including registered mailing, was EURO 43,90 (5.50 for mail), which is about USD.45.
My question to the users:
Is it equal to the Viagra in that sence that I can cut it in 4, and use 25mg, and have the same effect (I have no medical problem), which I found sufficient when tested some time back (prolonged hardness for repeated use :-) ).
Marconista -- in my experience, smaller doses of Silagra (and Penagra) from chopped-up pills do keep the same effects as doing such with Viagra.
James D 2004
11-06-03, 00:52
Field test. I cut 20 mg into 5 mg each. That is really small. But unlike Viagra, cutting a strange shaped pill into 2 isn't that easy. I tried the short side as well as the long side, but still I don't know which side is better in reducing pill waste. Cutting into 4 for the original Viagra would be difficult, in the sense that when I need it, I will be normally in the car going somewhere. I have to take out the pill and the cutter and do the cutting in some parking lot. I often take the pills driving. Levitra circular disc is much easier to cut, even though it is so much smaller.
So 5 mg works for me. I had a quarter French, a quarter Vietnamese, a half Chinese, and a Korean. A few hours later, I think I can still do another whole whatever.
noshame_etal
11-06-03, 01:03
An alternative to Viagra for you may be increasing your testosterone level. I have taken V. and not liked the headache, heartburn, and other negative side effects.
In te last 3 months I began a more intense exercise pattern that includes suplements. I picked up an estrogen blocker called 6-OXO and an testosterone precurser called 1-AD. Ever since I started taking it I am a walking HardOn.
Take a look on your own
Doctor_Skank
11-08-03, 16:56
Anybody know a way to increase your overall total ejaculate... to build up a massive load of cum?
Any vitamin or natural product, or just eat a lot of protein?
Doctor,
I hate to ask this, but what do you plan to do with that "massive load of cum"? Just wondering . . .
I think most of us have experienced a decrease in ejaculate and tubing pressure as we get older. Back when I was 16 screwing my girlfriend, I would pull-out at the last second and would end up shooting it completely over her head. Now if I pull-out, it ends up in her pubic hair. As I turned 30 or so my cum became much thicker and viscous and now, will not travel great distances except by airplane.
You see this a lot in porno flix. Most of the older guys can't hose down the ladies as well as time goes by. But certain exceptions come to mind, like Peter North who must be mid-40's and still has some unbelieveable loads. Doc, are you trying to get in the film business or just want to drown a particular lady?
Peace, -P
Doctor_Skank
11-08-03, 17:35
Prokofiev,
Romeo wants to drown Juliet in cum...
I have a really good volume actually, but really am into CIM and cumming on her body or face of late. A new hobby.
So I am looking to get as much volume as I can.
There is an image on my head of a girl I recently unloaded onto... and this image of her lustily licking it off her face and smearing her face with it reminds me of the power trip I had at that moment and it still really turns me on. I am chasing that moment and hoping to catch it. So I am just curious if the volume can somehow be naturally pumped up.
What do the porno stars use? I heard something about zinc... anybody know anything on this rather sticky subject?
Hey Doc,
Regarding Porn actors, we hear so much stories. That they do PC muscle excersize daily, that they eat a lot of pineapple (?), take Zinc supplements. I believe Peter North does all three.
There are other ways too, which I have experimented and came to an interesting result in terms of more powerful orgasms and more cum: yohimbe/yohimbine; dostinex/cabasaser (hard to get, but possible). Check these out.
Enjoy.
PN supposedly is really into kegel exercises, (the PC muscle part just mentioned) which help counteract the diminishing force issue Prokofiev mentions earlier.
Doctor_Skank
11-09-03, 11:57
Thanks all for your info. Pineapple? Hmm. I like pineapple anyway...
Have heard of yohimbe root but never tried it...so I will just to see what happens.
I'll do more research and conduct a field test. I'll post the results in a couple of weeks...
Later all.
This Forum is a never ending source of great information.
I was always wondering why my ex-girlfriend would give me pineapple-yohimbe tea in a zinc cup with a chaser of Enzyte!
Love those Enzyte commercials on TV. Who would have thought 10 or 20 years ago that they would run stuff like that. Onward and upward . . .
Latin Walker
11-10-03, 07:05
Anyone with experiences with GHB? I had a few friends take it before going to clubs and totally being aroused while still in control. Is that possible?
Anone tried it?
LW
Does anyone have any experince of getting hold of V in Europe? Easy to get hold of in Asia but in Europe seems impossible without having to visit the doc.
Viagra is only available through perscription from a doctor here in Northern Europe. It think it's quite expensive here as compared to other vendors offering it discounted on various websites.
Perhaps in a southern european country their health rules may be different.
James D 2004
11-12-03, 13:36
WorldExpressRX.com that I tried is based in London. They have online consultation by US liscensed doctors. Does that means they cannot do online consultation to European patients? I don't think so. They ship all over the world including Europe. My order hanged in there for over a month because they ran out of stock. But I did get the money refunded. Nobody answers the phone probably because of the time difference. But I did get reply to my email.
NYC Expat,
I live in Spain and the rules are the same. However, some, very few, pharmacies are willing to sell Viagra without prescription. It can also be bought in Andorra, in some pharmacies, withouth prescription.
Hope it helps.
Guys ,
I have not tried Viagra - but as I am about to hit Thailand thought I should at least get my monies worth.
Can you give me any advice on :
1 How much to take - 1/2 tab?
2 How long it takes to work - I don't wanna walk around all nite with a woody on!
3 Known side effects.
I am pretty fit but in my early 40's so welcome a little boost.
Are there any alternative which are readily available in Thailand - if so any advice on this would be great.
Your advice is appreciated.
Thanks,
Cruk
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Seldom Seemly
11-15-03, 21:45
Cruk,
The dose of viagra is usually 50 mg. you can buy 100 mg tablets for about the same price and break them in half. It is very important that you take it on an empty stomach, usally after not eating for 3-4 hours. It will be absorbed andstart to work within 30 to 45 minutes. You will only have an erection if you are aroused. Don't worry about walking around with a hard on. It will only happen if the situation is right. The effect lasts 3-4 hours. Kind of like being 20 again. The most common side effects are a little nasal stuffieness, kind of like hayfever, and for some people a mild headache.
The newer Levitra works just as well. And Cialis, the newest version, not yet available in the states lasts about 36 hours. Have fun.
Member #1553
11-16-03, 06:08
Has anyone here ever tried ENZYTE? Did it improve anything even moderately and in what type of time frame? I am looking for something for improving multiple sessions and a little bit of a boost to my libido. Vit V doesn't agree with me but it does work, gave me horrible headaches, I guess I would say a type of dizziness, and flushing and that was in 50mg doses and lesser but still uncomfortable effects at 25mg. There are so many scams and outrageous claims, I don't know what to believe.
Cruk --
1. If you're buying the 100mg tabs, try starting with half a tab and see how it goes. You can go up to a whole or down to a quarter as needed.
2. Figure generally about half-an-hour or so for it to kick in.
3. The most common side effects are headaches, flushing, stomach upset, and some dizziness, and alcohol tends to magnify them. You shouldn't be taking it if you've got any history of heart trouble, as there are tons of reports of heart trouble -- scroll back through this section and you'll read one.
In Thailand you can also often find copied versions manufactured in India -- Penagra, Silagra, and Kamagra. They are just as effective, and generally half the price.
Enjoy your trip!
Hey Wolverine.
I checked out Enzyte. Like many similar supplements, it contains a whole bunch of ingredients, with the intent that if some don´t work, at least others will.
From tonics to improve (slightly) blood flow/oxygenation like ginseng and Muiara Puama, to vasodilators like Gingko, to plants and roots to improve hormonal levels (Tribulus, Maca, Epidemium aka Tongkat Ali). And even saw palmeto to reduce prostate problems.
The real, efective ingredient here is Yohimbe. That is the real aphrodisiac in there. The other ingredients are all valid and will help, but the key one is Yohimbe. Look for Yohimbine, the extract of Yohimbe. You should like it.
Hope this helps.
Yohimbine
In regard to this dietary supplement, I can tell I've tried 12-13 capsules containing this aphrodisiac with several other added ingredients including ginseng, saw palmetto etc. over the past few months. They were purchased from a website for dietary supplements located in S. Florida.
They cost $1. each, bottle of 10. Must be taken 2 hrs. before anticipated activity.
No side effects but after 1 hr. I could feel some flushiness, increased heart rate (possibly because of anticipation of sex with a particular woman I look forward to weekly) and strangely enough cold like symtoms (stiffles). No headache.
I'm not completely convinced regarding effect towards my own natural erections. But I do think it helps a little. Afterall, its the stimulation I receive from my partner that really turns me on.
I am going to order generic V for comparison.
James D 2004
11-17-03, 18:22
New trial results just announced upset the stock price of Pfizer. Although inconclusive, the reports established that the newer Levitra and Cialis are serious competitors.
Viagra's main advantage is price, because there are generics. While there's no point in using the generics in California, the price advantage makes a lot of difference in Thailand or say Argentina. A rare New York strip and a bottle of wine before sex is disastrous. You really need to avoid food such as greasy burger for a few hours for best results. The compounded form that dissolves in your mouth solves this problem and acts faster. But it takes some 10 to 20 min to dissolve and you shouldn't doing any swallowing for optimum results. If you add that dissolving time, the acting time isn't that much faster. The fact that compounded form exists tell you something.
I prefer Levitra. It's safe to put them anywhere. Unlike the distinctive color and shape of Viagra, the pill is very small, the most common circular disc in shape and grey in color. It's very easy to cut into 4 pieces. You don't need to avoid food, and less side effect - heavy head instead of headache, less blushing etc. Probably faster acting.
They all works like this, otherwise it would be funny. After the kick in time and for the duration of the lasting time, you will stay normal if you are not aroused. When you are aroused by the same things that aroused you before, sight, touch, or imagination, you get stronger erection. Depending on person you have longer erection. And normally you have more erection-ejection cycle than without the drugs.
Short kick in time is a good thing, but long lasting time isn't necessarily a good thing. Accidental touch of your pennis by your pants in the toilet may give rise to a huge erection. But Cialis used in Bangkok will save you a lot of money as it is claimed to last for a weekend.
They do make you feel like teens again - rest a while, from a few min to a few hours depending on person, and you are ready to go again. However, there's something unnatural about them. After ejaculation, your pennis don't shrink immediately. Girls with any experience at all can tell the difference. You can almost have another go right away. But if you don't want to, a hot towel or just think about nothing will bring the wood down in a short time.
Personally, the drugs are best for beating the jet lag, or a long drive. Best for expensive short (1 hr) appointments when you need the wood there and then. The appointment is made and there's no refund no matter what your condition is. For an all nighter you could have a few times more than you normally do. But I suppose if you over drawn your body, some how you will pay for it. To direct the blood where it is needed is pretty harmless.
Yohimbine update
I mistakenly forgot to name the product I tried if someone else has also (comments welcome) or would like to try.
See previous remarks.
Its ”Herbal V”. A 500 mg. capsule contains 250 mg. extract of Yohimbe, 50 mg. Panax Ginseng, 75 mg. Damiana extract, 35 mg. Saw Palmetto plus traces of Vit. C (as ascorbic acid), E (as d-Alpha Tocophenol Succinate), zinc and selenium.
The US website is vitacost dot com.
This product is distributed by a N.J. co.
Der Komisar
11-18-03, 22:08
Tried the "G" once. If my buddies weren't over at the time I would have had sex with my livingroonm wall. It was an incredible aphrodisiac.
It's extremely dangerous though. I've seen people have seizures on its effects. I'd much rather take Viagra, than risk the latter. I recommend you do the same.
Hello friends,
Do you have any idea about something like Viagra but for woman? I bought "Donna Creme" made in Belgium under suggestion of the pharmacy (25 Euro) but is like a wet cream, no other effects!
Thanks and ciao,
Latin
James D 2004
11-22-03, 03:17
I heard more than once that Viagra works for some women too. But women is pretty easy:
1) G-2 Pocket Rocket and
2) KAMA creme, etc, applied on the rocket tip
By easy I mean that if a man need Viagra, the alternative by doing something like 1 and 2 probably wouldn't work.
Here's the experimental report:
This girl didn't reply my email when I mentioned the word toys. Some days later I called her anyway without mentioning it. I sort of wanted the type used in Asian porn pictures and videos. Thin and insert inside pussy. But I heard that pocket rocket is good. I saw lots of pocket rockets and lookalikes in yahoo shops but didn't saw those used in Asian porns. I went for it. This girl must be new to this thing. When she saw it's so small compared to the other toys she didn't object to it. She also appreciate the words massager written on the rocket rather than vibrator. I also brought Vigel that I heard is a good thing, but it didn't arrive yet. While waiting for the goods, I think I got the possibly original idea to apply Vigel on the rocket tip. I haven't got Vigel yet but I got something called KAMA creme that was a free gift from Kiwimed, I think, when I ordered Viagra a long time ago. I didn't tell her that. I just stick the rocket on her for a few seconds and then offer her some lubricants. Anyway Kama creme is and looks like a lubricant, but makes her feels a little bit hot down there. She likes the rocket but for 1st time users a less strong setting will be perfect. Some other rockets do have dual settings. She also likes the spicy hot sensation at the pussy. She had an orgasm for that. I didn't bother if it's real or not, considering dickheads method is to insert you finger into her ass at the same time to check. Not that I don't like to finger her ass, but she would probably not return my call next time. The 1 & 2 pair worked so well that she asked me if they comes in one package. Now that would be a good idea. In return she invited me to her home for coffee some time. End of experiment.
forgive me if I should be r'ing TFF, but I have read some of it and it seems tyhat in some places you can walk into a pharmacy and get Viagra or one of its generics without a prescription (Russia's board mentions it, thailand, too).
Does anyone know if this is true in Germany? England? Belgium?
Mark
Mark User
I can comment on England, France, Germany and Belgium: You need a prescription of some sort (private or otherwise). However, as with anything else in life, there are ways and means. Hard currency will buy you whatever you need, and I do mean WHATEVER you need. Spain is a different story, I have bought everything I needed from regular chemists without any form of ID or prescriptions (antibiotics, antihypertensives, Vit-V etc…).
Regards, Havanaman
Marconista:
Read your report about ordering Silagra from the online-pharmacy. As I live in Oslo too, I was wondering whether you had to pay any customs or VAT (must be paid for packages from abroad with a value of NOK 200 (USD 30) or higher)? What kind of packaging was used?
Have you gotten around to trying the pills and to what effect?
Thanks,
BunBiter
Marconista
12-03-03, 14:17
Result from testing SILAGRA:
I have in an earlier post described how I went about to buy the Silagra from India, and will now present the result from the test.
Business-trip abroad, and had a weekend to spare.
Invited a female friend to travel to meet me, and I paid her ticket. GF, ie amateur, not a pro or semi-pro.
I arrived in the hotel at 8AM, and she arrived at 1130AM.
She texted me of her arrival, so I split a 100mg in 4 pieces and took one at about 1100AM.
Some hugging and teasing, then start playing.
As I did not have sex for about a week, I expected to c*m within short, but it took about 25 minutes after penetrating before I did.
Then some more teasing and playing for 30 minutes, and at it again. Took longer to c*m this time, and the Lady enjoyed it VERY much.
That afternoon and evening we F*cked 6 times, I was c*ming 4 of them. Next morning also managed one more round. Then breakfast and some sight-seeing in the area.
At 4PM I took another quart of the 100mg pill, and we f*cked 4 times that evening, me c*ming all 4 times, and the Lady in heaven as well.
Last day, she had to leave at 1PM, and I took a quarter before breakfast, and we played until she had to leave. That was 4 f*cks as well, me coming 3 times.
The Lady left for the airport with a huge smile on her face, although she texted me, saying she missed me already. I can understand that, as we f*cked 14 times in 48 hours. The best 48 hours I’ve had in many years. I was hot for this Lady, and I know that was part of the reason the Silagra was working well for me.
I do not have a medical problem, hence testing only with 25mg everytime. Could feel some some flushing to the head, but no headache what so ever afterwards. Felt something in the chest the last day with the first lady, but guess I was all exhausted from all this action that I normally not have on such a regular basis as that weekend.
A week ago I had a blind date with a Lady that I’ve been texting for a while.
This was a total disaster, even though I had a quarter of the pill before the encounter as well. She looked OK, was in her middle 30’ties and friendly. This was an amateur also. While playing with her, I discovered that she was bleeding, but went ahead with the play. After about 5 minutes intercourse, the d*ck died on me. I guess the reason was because of her bleeding. Had a break, and I could not get back in to the play. You have to be hot for the Lady to have the stuff working for you.
Also met the first Lady on the same trip, and the pill was working wonderful with her again. 4 times a night.
Since I don’t speak Indian, I can not thank Silagra enough the Indian way, so I finish this test report with a Salamat Po, as the Ladies are Pinays.
Re.: Generic Viagra: Silagra
I ordered from the same co. 16 x 100 mg and received order conf. on 23 Nov. Still waiting for delivery. I live in Denmark.
Results of performance to follow.
Enjoy.
Have a good one. Have many.
I finally tried Cialis for the first time the other day. I have taken Viagra in the past and found it to work well, it's just that I didn't much care for the side affects. The flush feeling, headache, and sometimes blurred vision were a bit much, even though it did do it's specified job.
I picked up the Cialis at a pharmacia just across the border in Tijuana. They were out of the 10mg size, so I went with 20mg for $12(US). For me, it seemed to work as well as Viagra, with no headache or vision problems, but still got some of the flush feeling, just not as much as with V. The effects did seem to last into the next day, tapering off into the evening. Looks like I'll be using C instead of V.
FYI I ordered from e-rx.net, order came in 2 days. I cut the pill in half and it worked fine. The first time side effects were slight headache, and a hot flash, but really no side effects on the second and third try. Re-rx is more expensive then generics-online-pharmacy, but I needed them fast, and the website wouldn't let me order. I always thought you walked around with a hard on once you took a pill, but its more of a reliable back up once the action gets started. I hope I never take one and find out I'm not going to get any, that would be a waste at 80.00 USD for 4 pills. Once you split them you have 8, but these things are like gold right now for me. If anyone has a cheaper option, that ships quickly let me know.
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!
Re: Generic Viagra: Silagra
Letter arrived today. Website in India claims product was shipped 24 Nov. Postmark on envelope was 2 Dec. which is about right for a registered letter taking one week.
Report to follow asap.
Reported earlier today that Silagra arrived in the mail.
Bought a tablet cutter at the local pharmacy to split a 100 mg. pill in quarters. Quite easy but a very small amt. of fine powder content was wasted in the cut.
At 5 PM took a qrt. pill. About 45 min. later began to feel a slight flushiness in my face. Drove to spanske-piger dot dk (spanish girls) for first lab test. Arrived at 6:15 PM. Report on encounter in Copenhagen thread shortly.
Conclusion: Erection hardness improved and slower downtime. Had a comfortable warmth throughout my body afterwards. No other side effects with 25 mg. Since outdoor temp. was 40F/4C, it was a nice feeling.
Will try 50 mg. next encounter and report to follow.
My report on Silagra from the Indian Co. generics-online-pharmacy.com
Somewhat of a pain at the beginning, due to the fact my home state was on the restricted list. It took about 3 weeks for the package to arrive and came in a pretty bland looking envelope. I also ordered the 100mg tabs as the other posters did. It comes with a convenient pre-cut line in the middle of the tablet so pressing down with a knife edge is sufficient enough to split without any problems.
So I took half a pill and about 45 min later I could definitely feel the slight flushing of the face some posters have reported. I also experienced quicker erections and quicker recovery time just like Viagra. Conclusion: Silagra from generic-online-pharmacy.com works great! (certain states in the US they will not ship to!!Mine was one..but had it delivered to another state and then sent to my state... ;o)
Any way to find out in advance what states are restricted?
Plain Hungry
12-27-03, 04:04
My unit works well enough, but the pressure of dealing with professional ladies on a time table, sometimes slows me down.
I get my V from Ameridex (spell?), fast service, no troubles.
I break it the pill into quaters, then break the quater in half. (8 doses)
I break it in a small cup, to collect any powder from breakage.
I take a chunk about 45 min.s before getting laid. I put water in the "powder-cup" and drink it too. I also take an asprin because the V gives me a headache.
I don't flush too much with this small dose, and I'm hornier than usual all day.
My initial hard-on is a little slow to go down after sex, that's the only slight draw back to using this stuff.
From the Indian website I’ve used 2 full pills since receiving them. One was split into quarters and the second into halves. The quarter dosage is excellent for BJ when I visited spanish girls dot dk a couple of times the past 2 weeks. The girl really had to work for an outcome on my part.
I also have a steady woman whom I have BBBJ and FS weekly. Here the half pill came in handy without problems. She commented how hard I was. Told her she really turns me on with her new sexy panties she just removed.
BTW, realizing these vitamins will diminish quickly and the website limits purchases (for personal usage) I ordered from a spam email from another site:
select-pharma dot com offering generic formulas.
They will send you 6 free pills for shipping charge of $24.-. I added on 12 more pills for a total of approx. $67.-. No additional shipping charge. They claim it was sent 10 Dec. The plain, padded envelope arrived today from Belize postmarked 12 Dec. with a private person’s return address. It wasn’t even registered. It must have cost them $1.50 equivalent to ship.
These Silagras look different from the ones I got from India. They are slightly darker in color and round like aspirin. 100 mg. is imprinted on them. Why do I have thoughts about bogus
Silagras?. If they are counterfeit, I will let you know and hopefully all of you will spread the word about fraud and avoid this website.
Strikesfun
12-31-03, 12:38
OK need some help from the over 50 gang.
Viagra, Cialis, levitra.
I have used Viagra and found that 50mb gives me nice hard dude for about 4 hours. Also found that taking another 50 say 10 hours later for an evening event has same benefit. Minimum side effects.
Cialis Question: What is the effect of Cialis 10 and 20. Is the results the same as V, good, med, rock hard/. If on a short trip do you take once a day? Thinking it would be nice to take once a day for 2-3 days and be ready on opportunity. What is opinion on skip 10 and do 20 for effect?
Levitra: Same questions. In reading some info sounds like works like V or better for some. Is this sound right. Time frame is 4-5 hours after taking.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Frank
Viagra and Levitra are about the same...after about 30 minutes to an hour it works for about 4 hours.
The V gives me a flushed warm feeling and intense feeling while in the act. But the funny thing is sometimes I feel a little detached while doing it...of course that may have just been the girl's attitude. Maybe a little more liquor would have helped...LOL
Levitra takes about the same amount of time and I have gotten a headache from it, but while in the act it seemed to feel better, hard to explain, it seemed to work more subtlely, but then again it may have just been my partner's attitude. 10 mg seems to be enough but I have taken 20mg also just to be on the safe side.
Cialis is the weekend drug, lasts for 36 hours, take it on Friday night and in about 15 minutes you are aready to rock whenever you are stimulated until Sunday. Of the 3 it is the most subtle. I have taken 10 mg but recommend 20mg for the best results (that may be a personal thing).
The V to me works the best for the rock hard stiffie...so much that taking a piss can bring an erection. It seems to intensify everything, it always gives me acid indigestion so I take it with Tums. With V I can get away with 25mg and it always works, if I want more I just take more. I haven't taken more than 50mg at a time though.
The others are more subtle, take some stimulation to get hard but it s a more natural feeling. The V is like a performance enhancer where all systems get hyped up including your heart...so take it with care.
If I'm going to have a hearty athletic marathon fuck a thon then I'll nibble on V like Skittles all night. Also good if you're night crawling the strip joints and like to have wood when the girls are toying with you.
The Cialis is best when you don't know when the time will strike and the Levitra falls somewhere in between.
I should note that I have learned to take TUMS with all of them. That may just be my own personal reaction though.
In all cases I buy the larger pills and break them up, it's cheaper that way. I like them all!
I recommend that you try all 3 and report back so we can compare notes.
And by the way, a lot of us less than 50 year olds are taking these just because it is a great enhancer for the multi mongering night. Quicker come backs for multiple orgasms.
Cialis vs. Regalis.
After reading the latest posts, I spent some time on the net this afternoon searching for Cialis. Found a pharmacy with the MD’s name, a physical address and phone no. in Key West selling original Cialis to US patients in 20 mg. potency at a reasonable price I think. www dot affordable-prescriptions dot com.
Many websites selling these drugs have no visible address or phone no. for contact. Just a reply form. Prefer to avoid ripoffs.
Also found a generic version of Cialis called Regalis from a licensed pharmacy in Monterrey, Mexico: www dot rx-mex dot com. They sell to US and European patients only. Can a generic version of Cialis already be on the market less than one yr. after the original’s introduction?.
Just posting my search results and wondering if anyone has experience with these websites and care to comment. Cialis does seem to have some advantage while mongering on vacation or LT encounters with the women.
Still have some Silagra. Will try rx-mex at the appropriate time before vacation this spring and summer.
Stroker Ace
01-07-04, 12:39
This problem has probably been discussed in here somewhere, but I haven't found it. My problem is pre-mature ejaculation. It has damn near ruined my sex life lately and seems to be getting worse. I'm 51 yrs old and in good health. Will Viagra help me with this problem? Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Stroker -- no, Viagra will not really help you keep from popping prematurely, (though some guys do report some degree of decreased ability to cum) as premature ejaculation is considered to be primarily psychologically based. You might want instead to look into some of the desensitizing creams to reduce sensation somewhat, or wearing a double condom, which does the same. Strengthening the pelvic floor muscles, which can tend to get weaker with age unless tended to, is also supposed to help since those muscles improve your general control of the nether regions.
Hey Stroker,
Check out this web page:
http://www.orgasmdelay.com/
The guy who runs this, Serge Kreutz, is a straight shooter, as far as my personal experience, with other sites of his, is concerned.
Hope this helps.
There are some exercises you can do to help with premature ejaculation. You can masturbate almost to the point of coming and then squeeze the upper part of your rod hard so that it cannot escape until the feeling subsides, repeat this several times and this is supposed to strengthen your ability to "hold" it.
Practise this daily for a couple of weeks and you should strengthen your love muscles much as if you were strengthening any other muscles of your body.
As for what Viagra might help you with is the rebound....Viagra should bring you up to full speed erection again quickly after ejaculation (5 minutes?) and I would think that your 2nd or 3rd ejaculations would take more time to generate. Of course if you're with a girl for hire you will probably need to negotiate a "package" deal for this.
Another thing is just masturbate to climax before you go out mongering so that you have less ejaculate in your tank, the Viagra will bring you around but yet you will have already alleviated any excess pressure and therfore last longer once you get to it. (or into it as it were)
Another thing to remember is that the frequency of sex will reduce your ejaculate for some of the same reasons, if you have sex daily your reserves will always be on the lower side witht the additional benefits of strengthening your love muscles and probably improving your sexual techniques.
So to paraphrase from a famous philosopher "if you like something do it, if you like it a lot do it a lot."
Good Luck
Stroker,
First and foremost, you must exercise your PC (pubococcygeus) muscle. It's located a point between your scrocum (spelling?) and anus. Try urinating and try very hard to stop it and HOLD IT until you feel the urge desipitate, release slowly and continue urinating. That's the muscle. It needs exercise. Believe me I know. I'm 56 and started late.
It's going to take 2-6 weeks to train yourself to hold it back. Start with simple squeezes for 5 seconds 20 times. Do NOT hold your breath. Important to continue breathing. Do this 3 times a day. Release the muscle slowly. Do NOT use your stomach muscles in combination with the PC muscle. It's easy and it works if you do your share.
In addition, consider the book "How to make love all night and drive a woman wild". All the necessary exercises are explained in the book with full details how you start, intermediate and advance exercises. It works. I don't think you will regret buying the book. Author is Barbara Keesling, Ph.D. Yes, a woman, but she knows what she's talking about. Try a book sellers website. ISBN no.0060171227. Ok, who's laughing on the other side of the monitor.
As a last resort, masturbate 1-2 hrs. prior to anticipated intercourse. You will have to squeeze this muscle during intercourse more than once and your partner will know it and realize what you are doing, but she probably will be impressed eventually with your control. Women also have this muscle. Ask her to squeeze hers while you're inside. It feels GREAT.
With a strong PC muscle, you can orgasm more than once without ejaculating. Perhaps if necessary, you MIGHT find generic V called Silagra helpful with this problem in combination using your muscle. See earlier posts.
With all due respect to Rico, its not very convenient squeezing your penis to hold it back. The root of your problem and with all men regardless of age is a strong PC muscle which will STOP urine and sperm. How else do porno stars and men claiming to make love for hrs. do it without using this muscle.
I repeat, you will find this book helpful. OK. I did.
Go ahead and laugh but you can train your muscle while reading this post, standing in line at the bank or supermarket, movie theatre etc.
There's the other phrase:
"Use it, or loose it".
Hi stroker ace, I am 49 years old and does not have a pre-mature ejaculation problem however I have been using Viagra for a couple of years and have found that sometimes I have a hard time coming when I am using Viagra. I have talked to a couple of my friends who also have the same problem when using Viagra. So I think using Viagra might help with your pre-mature ejaculation problem. It wouldn't hurt. Just my 2 cents.
Remember the movie. "There is something about Mary". Well, just don´t go out with a loaded gun! And whatch out for that hair gel!
I agree with NYC expat, I have read some of the same exercises in some books dating back to the 70's.
I ordered from generics-online-pharmacy, on dec. 20th. Order arrived on jan. 8th, cheap prices, haven't tried them yet
Hey Stroker Ace,
I agree with NYC Expat about the PC muscle as being most important in helping and the frequency of ejaculation will be just as much so, but theres more you can do. This may sound obvious but stay on top initially so you can control all movement and slow down to a stop when you need to. Get a feel of your body and timing until your right on the verge of bursting then pull out and not only hold your PC muscle back, but tightly grip the base of your cock at the same time until the feeling subsides. This is not so much to hold back semen but more to control contractions and momentarily distract feeling from the stimulation going on in the your head of your penis.
With perfect timing you will be able to begin but not fully complete an orgasm and even dribble some, which will be good because the partial release will both relieve pressure and deminish sensitivity. Dont forget to switch it up and give her oral for a while in between if you feel you cant last, until you recover. Repeat as nessisary (she wont mind). Also this may be a good time to tightly pinch or squeeze the head of your erection as the slight discomfort is not sexually gratifying and will help desensitise you quicker for the next penitration.
If all else fails, try a desensitising product. Probably something with "caine" on the end of the name like a docter might use as a numbing agent, but available in a sex shop or catalog. Just be confident you can naturally establish a rhythem with a regular partner and build up to lasting longer. If its a provider, who cares what she thinks of your performance, she's being paid! Either way, take the pressure off yourself, its likely a big part of the problem.
Now I have a question: I've always been curios about trying Viagra or similiar products but have no erectile problems and function fine sexually. So...
Is it bad to take these products on either a sampling or long term basis if you dont nessisarily need them?
Also, can your erections become dependant apon them?
My personal experience has been that the use of Viagra, Levitra or Cialis has not affected my ability to get an erection without them. (so far)
I have integrated them into my mongering rouitine since Viagra came out and have tried the rest as they became available.
If the wife decides she wants some my little buddy always springs to action to take care of business without the meds.
I do find that if I'm cruising the strip joints and expecting to do some marathon mongering they sure come in handy for the multiple erections and ejaculations.
GettingTang
01-16-04, 04:37
How does viagra affect the heart and heart rate. I have heard it increases the heart rate in some people to a very fast rate, even while resting.
I don't have a heart condition, but i don't want one either!
Anyone with a heart condition or a family history of such or any unhealthy physical condition should be checked by a Doctor before using Viagra or anything else.
I'm not an expert in these matters but it seems logical to include smokers, excessive drinkers, and people with a disporportionate weight to height ratio as people who should have a Doctror's recommendation. It's not worth the risk.
GT, you might want to check out Trashman's story earlier in this thread at 01-04-03 23:07. It's definitely a cautionary tale.
I think it would be a mistake to take medical advice from a bunch of mongers. Especially if the concern is something as serious as possible heart failure.
Hi.
Here's IMHO about Viagra. I'm been using for the last two/three years on certain occasions. It has not hinder my performance without it. In fact, sometimes, when I'm not using, my face gets flush like I was on it and I'm get to perform just as good without it. Maybe it's in the mind too?
But when I'm on it, boy it really helps alot in substaining an erection and my ability to perform longer. And yes, sometimes I do have hard time coming.
As my doctor said, it's also used by some patients as an additive. Just like getting premium gas into your tank.
Catfish is right. You shouldn't use our opinion to get Viagra without a doctor's check-up first.
Be warn not to consume alchohol with it. you'll be pissing your Viagra away.
Bill
Catfish,
You're absolutely correct, if in doubt ask a doctor for an assessment.
According to Viagra & Levitra TV commercials if you're OK the Doctor will probably freebie you a sample six-pack.
The freebie samples alone will more than cover the cost of a doctor's office visit not to mention the peace of mind.
Rico
i been using the V most of the time for over two year's now (and having sex regularly) about 25mg. per dose it sure dose help but it's not a cure all or guarantee, in fact while on it sometimes i have lost penis feeling during sex and could not get off (pop) sometimes a disconnected feeling form my sex partner, and lately it seems it takes me forever to get off (pop) weather i use V or not
is there anything i could use for increasing sensitivity like a rub on cream or am i just loosing my sexual desire or appetite for it (and what can be done about that) something like once the desire or fantasy has been acted out it's no longer a desire
i have heard this from many who use V that after awhile it's not as effective but is it the V or are they just loosing the desire and not knowing it
Hello Guys,
Can anyone tell me where to buy cheap Cialis from a reliable store with shipping facilities to Europe?
Thanks in advance,
Keep (not always) cool
Jamis Plumber
01-23-04, 08:49
Bill Lee,
All V adverts just explain that it increases blood flow to the member. In your experience, and probably all you guys out there, do you still mentain the hard on even after popping? Or it requires some more stimulation for the member to get up again. With limited knowledge on this product (am from a country where even dispensing aspirin requires serious medical check-ups and costs a fortune) I assume that you can carry your hard on all the 4hrs even after several pops with the member not willing to wagger!
James D 2004
01-23-04, 15:13
My updates:
To answer some of the questions, all these drugs help with erection, that is, blood flow, but don't help with pops. The number of pops that you can manage still depends on your general health and could be some other drugs that you take.
Of course no erection no pops. But you can have erection but no pops. It doesn't help with premature ej but in a way it does. After the 1st pop, you can stay erected but no pop. So you can go on an on. However you probably won't enjoy it. But depending on people, if you rest half a day, long enough to recuperate partially but short enough for the drug to be effective, you both will probably enjoy it.
Of the drugs Viagra, Levitra and Cialis, I predict Levitra will be the winner and Cialis will be for the occasions. Levitra will be somewhat faster than Viagra. More importantly, L will not be affected by your stomach. V is so unreliable after meal so I tried the compounded ones that dissolves on the tongue. It's also unreliable in a way that you need to be patient enough for the pill to dissolve properly, and it takes time. Personally I have less side effect using L than V, both mild anyway.
V is similar but L gives me rather consistent happy experience after say half a day. For V, 25 mg is enough for me but I usually take more as it's not that consistence. For L, I cut the tiny 20 mg into very tiny 5 mg. I don't even bother to collect the left overs in the pill cutter. Of course some quarter pills are bigger than the others, but my body doesn't seem to bother. I see a professional in the daytime. Often I can manage another full erection in the middle of the night with a non-pro.
That's the problem with Cialis. Who can really predict what will happen in the next few days? If you find yourself in a desert, you have to do it with the camels! Nowadays these drugs are so common that many women knew the difference, at least all professionals do. C is a sure way to get caught taking it by the persons you don't want them to know.
Dosug
Read my post dated 01-02-04 15:49.
I believe both websites ship to Europe.
Do let us know your experience with them.
Enjoy.
Prince Frenum
01-24-04, 13:38
All,
My contact and some information:
I've obtained my V from http://prescriptionskeywest.com/. Perhaps a bit pricey, but reliable so far.
This month's GQ: "Boning Up" by Jamie Bufalino (pages 68-70) has an entertaining article about the second generation options (Levitra, Uprima, Muse, Topiglan, Cialis).
From reading the short article and some posts, I may like to experiment with the Cialis for on-the-side weekend galavanting. Any online suggestions, feel free to drop me a line.
Loving the way sildenafil disengages your mind,
Prince Frenum
GettingTang
01-24-04, 21:39
DOCTOR TURNS ME DOWN FOR VIAGRA!
Ok gentlemen, I'm pissed. I went into a local health clinic here in San Diego. I paid $145 for an office visit to get a free sample of viagra. Or so I thought. I'm 6'2" 212lbs 34 years old and relatively physically fit. I have worked out all my life and have no serious medical illnesses.
Anyhow, when the nurse came into my room and asks me what I was there for today, I mentioned it was private and I would rather discuss it with the doctor. She takes my temperature, heart rate and blood pressure, (standard procedure)! My blood pressure was slightly elevated, as was my heart rate due to being nervous about asking for some little blue pills. Trust me, it's rather embarrassing experience.
Anyhow, in comes this beautiful 33-38 year old tall thing, long brunette hair, doctor! I almost choked on my own saliva! She was a looker boys. I hold my composure as she asked what she can do for me and why I'm there. (I think she already knew) I mumble out the words, "I would like to try out some viagra" She does not flinch, very professional! She asks me "what for? I replied, been having some minor trouble maintaining an erection"
She proceeds to ask me the following questions, rather rudely, but still professional.
1. How long have I had my current sexual partner, and how many different ones have I had over the past three years?
2. Do I have a history of heart disease?
3. Do I know what my current cholesterol count is?
4. How often do I have difficulty maintaining an erection?
5. Do I have any lower back problems (don't we all)?
6. Am I faithful to my current sexual partner?
7. Have I had any STDs?
She then looks over the chart from the nurses exam and notices my slightly elevated blood pressure reading and heart rate.
She then rudely informs me, I need to have a series of lab work and cardiology checkup before she will prescribe me any viagra!!!!????!!!!
I was pissed! She then comments about how tooooo many young males are getting prescriptions for viagra for the wrong reasons and this medication she be used for only those who really need it. Also, because I do have some lower back problems she tells me I will also need a series of MRI to be done and x-rays to make sure a damaged nerve in my lower back is not actually causing my problems.
Well, is this the typical Women's physicians attitude towards this?
I can bet you a dollar to a dime, that if I had gotten a male doc, I was walking with a sample packet of the blue pills!
I can bet you if I was a female with any sort of female problem, the bag of pills would have been in my hot little hand!
What a joke, doctors are supposed to be there for our service, not turn us away based on their own sexual hang-ups! It became all too obvious this doctor being female had a problem with guys using viagra recreationally. I thought this is what the hell they made it for! I thought sex was supposed to fun!?!
So the moral of my story, do not go see a female doctor for viagra!
GETTINGTANG
LOL, GT, figures that you'd end up getting a doctor who was actually concerned for your health!
Agree with Joe, your health is important and taking V can be dangerous if prescribed incorrectly. With all due respect GT, you’re only 34. You really DON’T need it, do you?
Be honest to yourself.
Your quote:
“I thought this is what the hell they made it for!”.
I thought V was made for men whom really NEED it older and not as fit as you.
Your quote:
“I have worked out all my life and have no serious medical illnesses”.
Why didn’t you just order on a website?. I think the majority whom post here do.
For $145, you could of gotten generic “Cialis” for that amount. She really didn’t think you needed it at your age and your present physical condition, without defending her.
Your quote:
“What a joke, doctors are supposed to be there for our service.”
Doctors are there for our HEALTH and their bank account.
Hey, take a chance, get a second male opinion.
Seldom Seemly
01-25-04, 14:53
With all due respect to the other responders, Viagra is NOT a dangerous drug. The risk of angina or heart attack is very similar to that of men who have sex without using it. I can understand the hesitation of some of the older mongers in understanding why a younger man might want to try it but there are plenty of good reasons.
In my practice the youngest person I have prescribed it for was a 24 year old who was involved in a serious relationship and was experiencing a significant inability to have an erection for the first time in his life. Its happend to most of us at times, but in this person it was causing a profound lack of confidence and that was confounding his problem. He requested a trial of Viagra and I thought it was just the right medicine. It worked very well and straightened things out rather quickly. he then had no further use for it.
This is just one example. My opinion is that the doctor that you saw was competent but inexperienced and at the very least not compassionate. sorry about that. better luck next time.
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Has anyone ever ordered from RX_MEX.com?
James D 2004
01-27-04, 16:35
GT, why you expect to get a free sample of V when everybody in the clinic have to ask you why you were there?
If you are really confident of your health, buy online. You get a lot of V for 145. They are the cheapest of the others. If you are not absolutely confident, answer the online questionaire truthfully. These questionaires are 'supposed' to be examined by a doctor.
I always wonder why a healthy person would want to go to the doctor for a free sample, even for free. I thought I was shy to buy online. You rest my case.
OttoGraham
01-27-04, 16:50
GT - check out www.impotenceprescriptions.com before you waste your money on a real doctor next time.
-Uncle Otto
Uncle Otto,
Before you waste your money on original V, read earlier posts.
The Indian site posted by and used by other members on this thread sells generic V for one-third the cost per 100 mg. pill.
Guys, choose wisely and surf/shop the net for your best prices and service.
Has anyone out there heard of or used Dostinex (Cabergoline)? It is a prolactin inhibitor that is supposed to decrease refractory time and enable men to have multiple orgasms in a short time, as well as increase libido.
DocBill449,
Let me begin by saying that I have not use Cabergoline.
Being a dopamine agonist, I have no doubt that there will be sexual advantages with its use. However I must tell you that a medical institution I know removed Cabergoline from formulary due simply to its adverse side effects profile: namely dizziness, fatigue, constipation, and a reduction in blood pressure (systolic, diastolic or both). I would suggest caution.
Regards,
Havanaman
I have taken a few times Dostinex/Cabaser/Cabergoline and definitely enjoy it. I do note a prosexual effect. Stronger orgasms, more pleasure, more libido, more excitement. Great stuff.
And no side-effects whatsoever.
Enjoy.
Thanks Havanaman and B69! B69, how do you take it - right before sex or a day before? And how often? Thanks for your input!
Getting Tang
I just read your report on trying to obtain Viagra from a local doctor and note that you are in San Diego...only 15 minutes from Tijuana.
In Tijuana (or Mexicali, Tecate, or Algodones) you can walk into virtually any pharmacy by the border without a prescription and buy Viagra, Levitra, and Cialis by name.
4 packs cost about $40-50.00. Pfizer, Bayer and Lilly are the companies who make these products and they all come in blister packs in boxes sealed at the factory.
There are also generics available at the pharmacies for about the same price for twice the amount.
You can make an adventure out of it by buying some and then immediately trying it out on your favorite senorita of the week at Adelitas in the Zona Norte.
But of course you already know this.
Rico
Doc Bill,
I usually take it 2 hours before estimated sex time and on an empty stomach. I usually take 0.5 gr. If you take 3 times, for example, every 3 days for example, you will note more effects.
With 0.5 gr, you feel an overall improvement, more sensibility during BJ or any kind of contact, and you feel your desire as stronger.
Once I took 1 gr and I was feeling great overall, full of energy, very excited and lust-full. Orgasm was definitely more powerful and pleasurable.
As mentioned, I have never felt any negative side-effects, ever.
Hi All,
Just joined in this forum and stumbled across the discussion about Viagra.
Recently, another new natural enhancer called Magix was getting popular and hot in South East Asia, posted more info about it at Singapore Classified Ads as I believe it is more appropriate there.
Chinese Power
02-03-04, 19:35
Hey guys!
Does anybody can tell me if generic Viagra or Cialis works? Is there any difference with the original product?
Thanks!
GettingTang
02-03-04, 23:03
Well,
I decided to side step the female doctor and take all of your advice here and order my big V from the web. Much, much easier! I guess you do learn something new everyday!
I actually ordered mine at 1:30 AM and was surprised when they delivered it that next evening! Via USP to my door. It cost $129.95 for 10, 100 mg tabs, (20 doses) plus $19.00 for overnight shipping! Is this a good deal? seems like it to me. The site I purchased it through also offers a free extra pill on each refill.
OK, on to the details. I no sooner got the little pills, ripped open the pack and popped down half a pill on an empty stomach. Then it hit me, "who the hell was I going to F*ck?" I had made no prior arrangements for a date, lol! I opened up some porn sites for a little visual stimulation, lone behold, the old general was at rock hard attention about 45 minutes later. He got so damn hard, it almost hurt. I have never really had a serious problem getting it up, but lately, due to age, the hard on was just not quite as stiff. While, it felt like I was 19, my pecker was full on stiff hard! Had not felt it like that in years.
So rather then blow a good thing and lotion it up myself, I signed off the web, smacked the old general down (it wanted to stay hard, took 15 minutes for the erection to die off)! I jumped in my car and drove down to my favorite AMP. Well, to make a long story short, I got in two pops, back to back! The hard on stayed full on during both ejaculations! Again something I have not been able to do since my mid twenties!
Bottom line, the stuff works, I had a very light headache when I got home, took a couple of Tylenol, I was smiling! The stuff works boys!
GETTINGTANG~!
James D 2004
02-04-04, 00:50
GT, the only good thing about V is that it's cheap and there are generics even cheaper. Your's sound genuine V and for that price L is similar priced but better, at least you don't need an empty stomach and it won't take 45 min to take effect. If you have a light heahache, then you would not have any with L.
This may sound silly to some, but here goes.
Does taking Viagra even though you don't need it, do anything for you? I mean, does it prolong your natural erection? And, is it damgerous to take it if you don't need it at all? Is there such a thing as Viagra addiction?
Plugger, Viagra does not increase libido or desire, does not make one horny. Therefore, if you don't have a problem getting and/or maintaining an erection there is no point in taking it. The only difference you may notice is an increased ability to get it up again fairly quickly. And no, it's not addictive, at least not physically.
GT,
That sounds like a pretty good deal...you ended up spending about $7.44 per dose based on cutting each 100 mg V pill in half therefore having 50 mg per throw.
Since you didn't have to leave your house to get it you come out pretty good on that.
If you went to TJ you would pay about the same $7-8 per dose but then you have the time and expense of going down there etc.
So who did you order from and what are your fav amps in SD? You can answer via PM if you'd like.
best regards,
Rico
GT
Welcome to the club of pleasure enhancement via vitamin supplements (LOL). The generic versions work fine also. Puts a smile on your face, a tiger in your tank and for me, my lady is impressed. Everytime.
BTW, let us know the website where you purchased, since there are many sites selling placebos.
Have a good one. Have many.
James D 2004
02-07-04, 00:12
edrugstore.md
Genuine Viagra 100 mg x 20 = 50mg x 40 247/40 = $ 6.1
Levitra 20 mg x 10 = 5mg x 40 129/40 = $ 3.2
If you search around there are sites that compare prices and list good stores. I use edrugstore only because they deliver to PO boxes, while most are FedEx only, can't do PO boxes.
US based I think. Free consultation and fast shipping cost you as much as any other fast shipping stores.
Never tried less than 50mg of V because the smallest pill are 50mg. The minimum pill size of Levitra is 5 mg. I never thought I can cut down 20 mg into uneven 5 mg that easy. And that any of the quarter pills work just as well, after at least 4 weeks. So at first I thought L is the more expensive one. Now Levitra could be as cheap as generic V. When I refill with more pills, it would be less than $3 per use, WOW, anything can't get much cheaper, same as interest rate.
Can't say L is better but I feel that it is. That 5 mg, could be as little as 3 mg after the cut, could last till the next day. I know I'm a good tester. Without anything an whole hour massage won't get me hard on. With anything I got an beautiful erection before anyone undress. In terms of side effect, empty stomach, fast acting, L is all better.
The only disadvantage of L is that I can't cut the pill at the traffic light anymore! Too dam difficult. Even difficult to grab the tiny quarter pills and take it.
Hey guys,
Anybody know of any ways to increase the amount of sperm?
Any special diets or supplements?
I've been smoking cigarettes for the past 6 months and I'm not sure if its my imagination or what, but my ejaculate seems to be less lately.
Thanks
Maxam,
The volume of your ejaculate has nothing to do with your sperm count. Most of the ejaculate is fluid from the prostate. Having said that you are astute to notice the connection to cigarette smoking. Many things including smoking and diet affect the volume and consistency of the ejaculate. Also as you grow older (at least in my case) the volume decreases.
Just OneMan
GettingTang
02-07-04, 17:34
I'm not one to pass along compliments easily, but I need to when it comes to V. Viagra has changed my sex life. True, it is no wonder drug. It does not directly affect libido, but indirectly it does. When you know for 100% certain you will get rock hard like when you were a teenager, be given a slightly fuller longer penis, and be able to get it up 20 minutes or sooner after your first pop, it is bound to affect your mental state when it comes to sex.
This drug is simple in what it does. True, there are way too many myths. some people here treat this drug as if it will increase sperm and semen reproduction and make you a super duper stud. This it will not. What it will do, is allow you to have a rock hard, increased size hard on! Where you go with it from there is totally up to you.
Side affects: Yes, there are a few. Naturally it will vary from person to person. Most people will get a very light, but noticeable headache. Mine usually show up after the drug wears off, so this is not a problem during sex.
I get a very light, but noticeable tingling "high" from the drug, sort of a bit of out of body sensation. No, I'm not talking floating on the ceiling, but just a tad bit different, a detached feeling.
It definitely decreases penis sensation, it dulls the feeling somewhat in the tip of your penis. For me, this is not a bad thing, it allows MUCH better ejaculation control! I basically while on viagra, can CUM when I want too! This in combination with an increase in size and being straight up rock hard, is sure to affect your confidence.
It will lower your blood pressure, for most of the entire next day. I noticed a very slight light head the following day after using viagra. I regularly monitor my blood pressure with my own blood pressure machine. Each time, the following day, whenever I check my blood pressure, it is always low. Normal for me is 120/76, give or take a few points. Each time I have measured it the following day or morning, it always shows 110/65 or less. A dramatic noticeable difference. This is probably why the recommend being closely monitored if you use Blood pressure medication.
Bottom line, viagra is not the wonder drug some in here make it out to be, but it does work and WILL get you rock hard and does help you last and last. What you do with it from there, is all up to you and your mind!
Hope this info helps.
GETTINGTANG~!
James D 2004
02-08-04, 00:37
GT, you are one in a trillion.
If I were you I'll sue Pfizer for decreasing my sexual pleasure for 1 billion.
One man,
I'm not looking to increase sperm count necessarily, only to bump up the volume. (my own personal porn star fantasy I guess)
I think you're right about the volume being mostly just fluid.
On the oral sex thread, I noticed someone mentioned a connection between water intake and volume of ejaculate. Also mentioned was weight loss and some supplements called lechtin and l arguine, even raw egg whites(yuck!)
Some more incentives to drink more water and drop a couple of pounds.
Thanks
Hey anyone and everyone, I need some info based on your own experience.
I've tried V in different doses. They all give me a bad headache and flushing.
Has anyone tried all three-V,L and C? Which of them has given you the least bad effects? I know that meds affect each of us differently, but, I'm hoping that maybe one of the others would be better for me.
Thanks,
ILuvIt
Iluvit
How many times have you tried it? I found the more I used it, frequency that is, the less headache i got. I am talking about V, have not tried the others. Been using it about a year & have not got headaches in about 6 months. Always get the stuffy nose. I take 50mg 2-3 time a week on average.
Hope this helps & will be curious if anyone else has had a similar reaction.
The Cialis is the best of the bunch. It lasts for 36 hours, kicks in about 20 minutes after taking it and doesn't give you the flushed feeling that V and L can give you...V & L can make me sweat, I think this is from the increased blood pressure. I get kind of heated up.
I think the feeling during sex is better too. V sometimes would give me a "detached" feeling during sex but then again that may have been only me or maybe the girl I was with.
Both V & L has given me a headache before.
The best part is the fact that C lasts for so much longer for about the same price so you can take it on Friday night and last through Sunday on it.
It only takes about 20 minutes to kick in too.
GettingTang,
If you find Viagra to be performing well for you, I guess you should try Cialis. You will then realise that Viagra lost by miles.
The beauty of Cialis is that its effect last at least 8~12 hours with errection on aroused. That means you wont need to hold a hard stick running around or get some fresh air before continue bonking.
Yes, Viagra do helps to make your penis rock solid but even when you don't wish for the errection. You like it not, the errection will continue during the effect of Magix and normally the effect last not more than an hour (some probably even lesser), beside those noticeable negative effect of Viagra like blurred blue vision, headache, stomach upset, etc.
I have always skeptical about the long term effect that may cause over-dependency on this kind of simulator to perform the job.
I wonder if anyone here has tried any Herbs Alternative? I do know one that works better than Cialis. For those interested could check this out Table of Contents > Classified Ads & Personal Endorsements > Asia Classified Ads > Singapore
Webnet,
I split a 100mg in half and tried the half fearing a whole pill would be too much. After having the headache, I split the other half into a quarter and tried that. The headache was less severe, but so was the length of time of my erection.
So, basically, I've been using 50mg doses each time, twice a week for 4 weeks. I haven't felt any lessening of the headaches or flushing so far. But as I said before, meds affect each of us differently.
ILuvIt
I agree that although V will make you rock hard ...it also will get hard if you're just taking a leak. If my slacks rub against my unit I spring to attention.
Cialis is a little more sophisticated and knows how to act in proper company. LOL
James D 2004
02-13-04, 03:48
Rico, good point. I have that experience when I first tried V. If what you said are true, that means C is not that much affected by physical stimulation, with mental stimulation as the major contribution. That's good but the disadvantage of C is that it last too long. If I pay a woman I would only take C if I can afford her for the weekend, or a few woman.
Since you mentioned it, I think that L may be more subtle than V. But that's just my impression, I didn't even thought about it.
GettingTang
02-13-04, 04:36
Are you people kidding. I can already see the pathway being laid for dependency on the mighty V or other enhancers. Lets face it, I have now been using this powerful awesome drug for almost two weeks or so. I have banged away about a dozen times using it already. It has dramatically enhanced my sex life. My regular lady thinks I have become some sort of sexual maniac stud! (no she does not know about the viagra.) My stiffy if full on hard and stays that way until I decide otherwise. "ITS HARDER TO STOP THE DAMN ERECTION, THEN IT IS TO GET ONE" (Think about that one for a second) I can maintain my control forever if I want. the little lady wants three orgasms tonight, then damn-it, I give her three, then cum. You all get the idea. I find myself never worrying about going limp. the pecker is rock hard and it will stay that way as long as I like.
Okay the bad news, the other night I decided to go without it, been noticing some side affects, did not want a headache and wanted to fuck and sleep. Anyhow, I had a bit of problem doing the same performance. I'm not too man enough, not to admit, I might be becoming Psychologically dependent on this mighty drug. Damn I sure hope it does not have any long term usage affects?!? Because I have a feeling I will be using it for years!
GETTINGTANG~!
Tall,
I agree that L is more subtle than V. I still prefer C even if it does last for 36 hours, you never know if another opportunity could come along.
As for the dependency that Getting Tang mentioned I have been using for at least 3 years and I haven't noticed any problem with that although I have thought about it.
I tested the waters and found that it still works without the chemicals although maybe not as rock hard as with V, which in my book is definately the one that makes you the hardest. By the way I'm in my mid 40s and in excellent physical condition.
The only worry I have is not having enough juice for the multiple orgasms. Especially if you go home to the little woman after a night of mongering and then she decides she wants some, the stiffy is there but no juice...I have had to fake an orgasm.
Rico
James D 2004
02-14-04, 00:38
Rico, the problem with C is the little woman, see? Say I want to save the cum for all my other girl friends. Even with L and V, when I came home after mongering, sometimes I got a little stiff late night or the next morning. A little bit of relaxing and it will go away. But if the little woman saw it and want some. Say if I don't want to waste cum on her, it's a waste. Or the little woman just want some at the time, if she grab me, normally I wouldn't have wood and I'll said sorry, some other time. But if I got wood I can't refuse. Can you imagine the problem if C last that long?
By now all professionals know what's the difference with and without enhancement drugs. If you don't use it, you are a fairly good client. Soon all women will know about the difference. Say if a girlie magazine have a article on how to spot your SO having an affair. If your little woman climb onto you, have sex, and discovered that you took drugs, how to explain it away? If you say I took it for you, then you have a whole life of torture in front of you.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/02/12/1076548159429.html?from=storyrhs
Looks like Viagra sponsor the Sydney Swans, an Aussie footy crew based in Sydney (duh). What else do they sponsor and why?
You Got Male
02-15-04, 01:13
Maxman,
To increase your sperm count, I would suggest you use zinc, tribulus terrestris and arginine. Stack these 3 together and you'll increase your sperm count naturally, and the volume of ejaculation is euphoric. But under severe cases you need to see a doctor.
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Late Night
02-15-04, 03:43
Anyone know where I can buy Taladafil (generic Cialis) online? Somewhere reliable where you have bought a working ingredient.
Any orders from RX_MEX.com? I think their Cialis version is called Regalis. Any experiences?
I believe the higher dose is 20 mg. I have tried generic viagra (Omnigen) and had a great experience with them. Time to move on to this new wonder drug.
TIA
Prince Frenum
02-15-04, 03:48
I too can vouch for the generic V out of India. A lot has to do with the amount of grub and booze in one's system for it to kick in and for the duration. For a Valentine's weekend session, the 50mg. was good, but the 100mg. was great! So I recommend the generic V from this location for price, effectiveness, and most of all - the virtues of the blue pill itself. It is in a pop wrap (not a bottle) and indented for not needing a tablet cutter to split it. A simple, but great feature so one can pop the dose in restroom on the way out of the restaurant. Ready for action right on arrival.
Have fun,
Prince Frenum
I also prefer the V from India, I'm looking for a source to order c from as well, do not use rex-mex.com I ordered from them in early January and never recieved the order, they also do not answer e mails stay away from them.
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To all,
How reliable are these out of country suppliers?
Are there any problems with customs?
Have you found their quality up to the domestic standards?
You guys are giving me great feedback!!
ILuvIt
Tall n Handsome,
Isn't it wonderful that the things we have to worry about is if we will have enough juice to satify all of the women in our lives?.....ahhh life is good.
Rico
OldMassageGuy
02-16-04, 17:40
Of all the places that you guys have orderd the V, are there any that do not ship them in a bottle to rattle around in the Fedex pack? I use them only for my outside activities since it helps overcome performance anxieties at the spa's and indy's, at least with me it does.
So when I ordered it the first time via fedex it came discreetly packaged, but rattled like hell, and I just knew that everyone in the office knew what it was. And that was not a very good feeling.
James D 2004
02-16-04, 22:12
vett, get a mail box. Some ship to PO boxes that I mentioned. I have the same problem. Of course the post workers know what it is. The male ones handle the packages without noise. The female ones are all 'shakers'. Just don't go to the post office at lunch time and before close. Since you have to sign for it the whole line may know that it is. Better still, since it doesn't matter where you get your mail box, get one as far as possible.
Rice, juice and wood is two different thing. I have to preserve my juice.
For those thing C is the greatest thing, imagine that you come back from a weekend in TJ. You come across your neighbor, who is an old bag that you swear that you will never bang. But since C is still in your system and may be the moon light is different tonight. You bang her. When you wake up in the morning ...
If any of you live near Tijuana you can get Viagra from any street corner Pharmacy without a prescription. I usually just buy only one 100 mg, for $13. If you shop around or buy more you can get them for a little over $10,
The first time I tried Viagra I brought a 50mg pill, and bit it in half to try it out. ( 50 Mg, you can ask the Pharmacy to cut it in 1/2 for you also.)
I have only been using Viagra for about 6 months now, because I felt I was fairly young and didn't need it. I usually only take 1/2 a pill( 100mg) and it works great. I can easily do two young women within the hour, and If I wanted I think I would be able to do three women. ( two is enough for me)
Viagra, usually makes me last longer then before, but not always.
The good part is if I come to fast; I can usually get it back in action real fast, and continue with the girl I picked, or with a new one.
I hate the side effects, flushed face, heartbeat a little faster then normal, and it does take a little while to kick in. ( some bar tender was bugging me to pick a girl; I told him to fuck off, I wasn't ready yet- he just looked at me weird.)
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To all,
I don't feel any symptoms using 1/2 100 mg of V.
I buy V at my local pharmacy and claim it on my flexible spending account through my employer.
If you buy generic V or C through web site without prescription, can I still claim through flexible spending account.
Thanks
James D 2004
02-17-04, 03:06
Come on guys, the price issue is getting old. If you buy a year of supply, 40 doses, 1 dose per week plus some rest weeks, the price is $6 for real V and $3 for L.
In USA the custom for tips is 15% or more. If you go to TJ for $50 a pop, $6 is less than you would tip a waitess.
GettingTang
02-17-04, 04:18
I agree with Tall here. Enough nickel and dimming this med. It works plain and simple. If you pay a dollar or two more per pop who really cares? I personally would rather pay a bit more for the real drug, rather then get some shady foreign bootleg generic crap. To me the peace of mind Knowing I got the real deal is worth spending $40-$50 more for a 10 pill prescription.
A few questions for the board. Or Viagra users
1. How often are you using Viagra? Since I got my first prescription I have been taking it 3 out of four nights.
2. Have any of you noticed any heart related side affects? I had not noticed any at all, but the past few days, I've been having quite noticeable heart palpitation and skipped beats. One even had me grabbing at my chest, it lasted for a good 10 seconds where my heart sort of fluttered. Scared the hell out of me. Now there was no pain or chest discomfort, but definitely some mixed heart beating going on. I can't help but think my almost daily use of Viagra may have been the cause?
3. Headaches continue, but they are manageable, a couple Tylenol a few hours later, knocks that out.
GETTINGTANG~!
Getting Tang
If I had used V 3 out of 4 nites and then had some heart /chest pains I think that I would take that as a warning sign!
It is my experience that both L and especially C are more subtle as far as noticeable blood pressure fluctuations.
Maybe you should run an experiment to see which works best for you overall.
That’s what I did, I was using the V for a couple of years and I put up with the blood pressure changes, the flushed face feeling and then the fierce heart beating when I climaxed, etc., then when L & C came out I tried them out and found the C more to my liking.
I do not have the increased heartbeat with the C that I had with the V but yet I can still get all the wood I want.
To me the C is worth it and the fact that it kicks in faster and lasts longer is only icing on the cake.
Now here's a question for the forum, has anyone used any of these in combination? I did the other night, 25mg of V and 20 mg of C, these were taken within a few of hours of each other and I pulled an all-nighter...that was a real winner for woodiness!!
Rico
Gentlemen,
Viagra dilates the blood vessels and we make use of this when we need / want to. However we should not forget that this puts considerable pressure on the circulatory system (cardiac and general) so there could be long-term physical consequences of using combinations of such products designed to cause vasodilatation.
Nothing is known about such mixes, so the possibility of elevating the body-status of either one or both, or indeed the synergistic-effect possibility remains. Commensurate with this would probably be the side effects of both products, and maybe some new ones.
The bottom line here is that combinations could: cause nothing at all (except a woody to remember! Nice going Rico); cause dangerously low blood pressure; dizziness; fainting; an MI or stroke (complete or TIA…).
If you get what you need form V, C, L or whatever: why mix them without medical supervision?
Take care friends,
Regards,
Havanaman
If anyone is interested, here is a website in India selling generic C I recently discovered while surfing.
www dot cialis dot shoprxonline dot com
I purchased generic V from India as others members without problems.
SosuaDoctor
02-17-04, 21:29
Gentlemen,
I just scrolled through this entire thread and saw no mention of Korean Ginseng. I had heard that it increases bloodflow and helps enhance ones erection. I am a 32 year old male with no problem attaining an erection but the harder I can be and the longer I can last, the better. I have tried viagra and I am not a huge fan of it. It definately makes you harder but I find I lose sensitivity. I am a frequent poster in the Dominican Republic (Sosua) section and I am going down for 7 days next week. I have been there many times and have banged many chicas, however, this time, I am on a mission. I want to completely tear the ass out of a few of these girls. I want to make them cry "gringo"! I am going to leave them singing the star spangled banner in Spanish. I bought some liquid Korean ginseng today. Tell me gentlemen, will this help me in my quest to pulverize Dominican culo? Thanks in advance.
Sosua Doctor
James D 2004
02-17-04, 22:03
Asian billionaries all take ginseng like rice. Have to be the real thing - there are many fakes. The effect is proven but long term. If you take enough it is supposed to keep you young and healthy, not particularly target at erection. Since V, many tigers and rhino etc are saved as their penis or horns are no longer required - too expensive and the effect isn't immediate.
SosuaDoctor
If you want those girls to sing then forget the ginseng, rhino penis powder, golden rice etc. and buy some V, L, or C.
End of story.
Rico
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