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Rdavis1972
06-27-13, 14:40
After Loki PK suggested the idea in the Backpage thread, I took a look at the Cincinnati forum to see what this Rant and Raves thread was that he was talking about. Basically a member created a thread in their forum dedicated to allowing people to sound off on anything and everything. I don't necessarily think we need a special place to tear people down and argue. I have a feeling if that's what this turns into the admins are still going to hand out the requisite smack downs and perhaps even kill the thread. That being said it would be nice to have a place to talk about items not directly related to finding pussy without jamming up the threads that are there for specifically that purpose. So here we go.
. That being said it would be nice to have a place to talk about items not directly related to finding pussy without jamming up the threads that are there for specifically that purpose. So here we go.Right On!
'So, did ya ever notice". The number of used condoms or wrappers in the basket on your way out of an appointment? I noticed today, more than I care to admit I counted! Thats fucked up! Just sayin.
Peace.
PK
How fucking awesome is this? I will now become a much more active member. Love it!
Speaking of condoms, I once saw a young girl that emptied purse on bed, and about 87 rubbers came out. All different brand, sizes, colors, and flavors!
Not at all for me but to each his own I guess. Dude that's some wicked shit! Enjoy and let the good times roll. Like a snowball headed down hill!
Quail. Your shit amazes me!
L10.
BTW. Love the new R & R forum thread!
Upforfunn27
06-27-13, 22:00
Right On!
'So, did ya ever notice". The number of used condoms or wrappers in the basket on your way out of an appointment? I noticed today, more than I care to admit I counted! Thats fucked up! Just sayin.
Peace.
PKAnd worse the amount of condoms, was size of the one hanging over the side. I thought it was pantyhose. Damn! I'm so white.
this is how the octagon works in cincy. in this thread and only this thread i'll relax some of the rules regarding argumentative behavior. you can't out somebody, you can't, as always, post about **** stuff, you can't threaten people, what you can do is call somebody a douchebag or asshole and i'll let it go. hell i'll even let the girls speak freely in here if you want.
the price for a thread like that is you can't do any of that stuff in the review threads anymore. none, nada, zip. no complaining about what people post, no calling guys liars, no white knighting, all that stuff would happen here.
talk among yourselves, if you just want this to be a place you can sound off about shit that pisses you off while retaining the "no calling other members out" sort of rules, that's fine with me as well. if you do choose to make this a free fire zone then i will moderate all the other review threads with a much heavier hand.
a2
I have a few questions. Normally I would ask via PM. But for the benefit of ALL forum members I shall do so here.
1. What if somebody posts in the General thread, a totally inaccurate or off the wall statement about a provider or a situation. Do we respond here? Or simply say 'lets move this discussion to R&R' and take it up here?
What would be an acceptable way to 'jump' the topic to this thread?
2. Regarding responses to posts in the other threads, how far can we go, or what is allowed, regarding bad information. That is to say, there is a difference in calling or inferring somebody is a douche as opposed to saying 'no that is incorrect'. Opinion vs. Facts.
3."Talk among yourselves, if you just want this to be a place you can sound off about shit that pisses you off while retaining the "no calling other members out" sort of rules, that's fine with me as well. If you do choose to make this a free fire zone then I will moderate all the other review threads with a much heavier hand." ----.how do we make that choice? a Poll? Or short probationary period untill we work through the details?
Finally, as you know I am TRYING to stay on Jacksons good side and not piss you guys off ;) so with that in mind, where do we draw the line between intelligent reponse with solid info and being overly abrasive?
Thanks.
Peace.
PK
Why do you feel the need to "correct" other peoples "bad" information. This is a crowd sourced model. 10 guys say,"everything covered," 1 guy says "she gave me BB Anal." What do you think happened? Guys that come on here that are douchebags and post bad information should be ignored Not engaged. Engaging a troll is giving them EXACTLY what they are looking for. What they hate is to be ignored. Each and every time you pound your keyboard it's like you are jerking them off. Click their name and put them on your ignore list and you will never see them again. If somebody is STUPID enough to read one report and make a decision based on that, well that's a painful lesson we all had to learn.
If you just HAVE to give them the BBBJ they are so desperately looking for by engaging them then click on "Reply With Quote" then when the dialog box comes up copy everything INCLUDING the Quote=XXXX; 12345678 then back out, come here, and start with a new post and copy that in. I haven't checked that but it should work. Of course it probably won't result in the argument that you are looking for (I'm being nice but truth is truth) because they won't know to check here for your cutting remarks.
As far as what this thread should be, I'm checking it, as guys express their wishes I'll figure it out.
A2
I have a few questions. Normally I would ask via PM. But for the benefit of ALL forum members I shall do so here.
1. What if somebody posts in the General thread, a totally inaccurate or off the wall statement about a provider or a situation. Do we respond here? Or simply say 'lets move this discussion to R&R' and take it up here?
What would be an acceptable way to 'jump' the topic to this thread?
2. Regarding responses to posts in the other threads, how far can we go, or what is allowed, regarding bad information. That is to say, there is a difference in calling or inferring somebody is a douche as opposed to saying 'no that is incorrect'. Opinion vs. Facts.
3."Talk among yourselves, if you just want this to be a place you can sound off about shit that pisses you off while retaining the "no calling other members out" sort of rules, that's fine with me as well. If you do choose to make this a free fire zone then I will moderate all the other review threads with a much heavier hand.". How do we make that choice? A Poll? Or short probationary period untill we work through the details?
Finally, as you know I am TRYING to stay on Jacksons good side and not piss you guys off. So with that in mind, where do we draw the line between intelligent reponse with solid info and being overly abrasive?
Thanks.
Peace.
PK
Why do you feel the need to "correct" other peoples "bad" information. This is a crowd sourced model. 10 guys say,"everything covered," 1 guy says "she gave me BB Anal." What do you think happened? Guys that come on here that are douchebags and post bad information should be ignored Not engaged. Engaging a troll is giving them EXACTLY what they are looking for. What they hate is to be ignored. Each and every time you pound your keyboard it's like you are jerking them off. Click their name and put them on your ignore list and you will never see them again. If somebody is STUPID enough to read one report and make a decision based on that, well that's a painful lesson we all had to learn.
If you just HAVE to give them the BBBJ they are so desperately looking for by engaging them then click on "Reply With Quote" then when the dialog box comes up copy everything INCLUDING the Quote=XXXX; 12345678 then back out, come here, and start with a new post and copy that in. I haven't checked that but it should work. Of course it probably won't result in the argument that you are looking for (I'm being nice but truth is truth) because they won't know to check here for your cutting remarks.
As far as what this thread should be, I'm checking it, as guys express their wishes I'll figure it out.
A2The only reason I (not speaking for others) feel the need to engage certain individuals is to protect MY sources of outlet. If some douchebag trashes a decent provider that I see, or others here see and know, it effects their business. Which, in turn, effects my ability to see them. Over the years I have seen many issues arise with or about a girl that then turns into a big shit storm and eventually she leaves the business or our area. Now, I have to go and find a relaible provider to replace her. Not as easy to do in upstate NY as other places. Such as BA.
Also, since it is a crowdsourced forum there should be a balance between input and critical review of that input. Without that degree of scrutiny anybody can say anything they want and it may be taken as true or accurate. This means anyone with a vendetta or an axe to grind could come to the forum and throw wild accusations around and ruin a girl's reputation as a good provider. When the other 'tenured' or senior members step up and say ' no thats not true, or has NEVER been my experience', the ability to form your own opinon on who to see is enhanced.
I'm no white knight, but I feel a degree of critcal review or banter is necessary for good, lively discussion. That doesn't mean we get to slam each and every statement by every poster. But it does allow for more information to be revealed over the course of the discussion. Just recently it went down like that regarding a girl in Troy named Ryan. Everyone had seen her posts, yet nobody ever reported seeing her. I busted a newb's balls over asking for her info in his first and only post. 2 days and 15 posts later somebody came forward and reported he HAD seen her and she WAS reliable and worth seeing. If that didn't fly that way, we never would have known about her.
Look at it from a member standpoint. How many members were posting here in 2007? In 2010? In the last 12 months the traffic and new members has more than tripled! I know you have been her longer than me, but I have been here in the Albany forum since 2003/2004 and I lasted through some dark days. Back when it was me and maybe 3 others posting and even then it may have been only once or twice a month. Over the last 9-10 years we have developed a strong community and are getting more and more good information. Much more so in the recent years. That is a good thing, isn't it? Point is, DRAMA sells. People don't come back for boring, robotic, slow interaction. Guys come back to read exciting reports and grab good information, so they can live vicariously. So they can learn how the vets do it, so they can do it to. Learning what NOT to do is just as important as what TO do. By calling bullshit when I see it, I feel it can benefit everybody so we can be safe and have a good time. Unfortunately, every now and then the trolls turn up and shit in the bathwater. That sucks, but can have some entertainment value as well. It is MORE than obvious that I enjoy conflict and spirited debate, I can't deny that. But I try to present an intelligent and fair response. I don't call people names(usually ;) ) and engage in personal attacks, I typically only question motives and facts and if I am proven wrong I say 'I'm wrong' and apologize.
Sorry for the long response, but you asked. While I'm on it, a perfect example of a post I would normally go after is this "Alison I see her every day."
My normal response would be " Gee thanks for that!" " Now could you tell us 'when' or 'how' you see her and what she charges? And what her service and appearance is like since she jumped from SW to BP beauty?"
Why would I do that? Because I used to see her for 30-70 a pop and now she is on BP for 150-200. I am genuinely interested in more info on her, now it has been going on 2- 3 days and that is going to 'die in committee'. So I believe a certain amount of banter helps drive traffic and interest in the forums. I'm not saying let the trolls have at it. I'm just sayin sometimes its not a bad thing to 'let the boys be boys'. ;)
Have a great fucking week everybody! I may be out of communication for a few days so wishing why'all a happy 4th of July.
Peace.
PK
The only reason I (not speaking for others) feel the need to engage certain individuals is to protect MY sources of outlet. If some douchebag trashes a decent provider that I see, or others here see and know, it effects their business. Which, in turn, effects my ability to see them. Over the years I have seen many issues arise with or about a girl that then turns into a big shit storm and eventually she leaves the business or our area. Now, I have to go and find a relaible provider to replace her. Not as easy to do in upstate NY as other places. Such as BA.Good point I hadn't thought about that. Living in a place where the hobby is legal does tend to make one blind to the problems of the brothers elsewhere.
Also, since it is a crowdsourced forum there should be a balance between input and critical review of that input. Without that degree of scrutiny anybody can say anything they want and it may be taken as true or accurate. This means anyone with a vendetta or an axe to grind could come to the forum and throw wild accusations around and ruin a girl's reputation as a good provider. When the other 'tenured' or senior members step up and say ' no thats not true, or has NEVER been my experience', the ability to form your own opinon on who to see is enhanced.
I'm no white knight, but I feel a degree of critcal review or banter is necessary for good, lively discussion. That doesn't mean we get to slam each and every statement by every poster. But it does allow for more information to be revealed over the course of the discussion.Exactly, A2 has never and will never throw a flag for critical review or good, lively discussion. You don't even need a "Rants and Raves" section for that. Flags start flying at the "What they hell are you saying" or "you're a fucking liar" point. It's like Jax says in the FAQ "It's hard to define but I know it when I see it."
Look at it from a member standpoint. How many members were posting here in 2007? In 2010? In the last 12 months the traffic and new members has more than tripled! I know you have been her longer than me, but I have been here in the Albany forum since 2003/2004 and I lasted through some dark days. Back when it was me and maybe 3 others posting and even then it may have been only once or twice a month.We thank all of you for keeping this forum alive then.
Have a great fucking week everybody! Wishing y'all a happy 4th of July.Our sentiments from here at USASG as well,
A2
Member #4407
06-29-13, 19:35
The things some of you like and perform with all willing providers, such as lfk / dfk, DATY, BBBJ, greek, etc. BLOWS MY MIND. I can't get beyond the VERY REAL std risk of this hobby. Providers have ZERO incentive to tell us if they have an std. (And vice-versa, so these girls who have no rules are always at risk to become a "sexual zombie" from a random john and then spread it to us regular johns.)
I wish I could delude myself to enjoy DATY / dfk, but I long ago gave those activities except for the very rare provider. I just can never get beyond that what-the-fuck-did-I-just-do feeling afterwards if I play it risky.
You guys are about to find out why we have rules prohibiting discussing this issue. I let this post go because it's in R&R's.
Flame on,
A2
Rdavis1972
06-30-13, 10:39
The things some of you like and perform with all willing providers, such as lfk / dfk, DATY, BBBJ, greek, etc. BLOWS MY MIND. I can't get beyond the VERY REAL std risk of this hobby. Providers have ZERO incentive to tell us if they have an std. (And vice-versa, so these girls who have no rules are always at risk to become a "sexual zombie" from a random john and then spread it to us regular johns.)
I wish I could delude myself to enjoy DATY / dfk, but I long ago gave those activities except for the very rare provider. I just can never get beyond that what-the-fuck-did-I-just-do feeling afterwards if I play it risky.
You guys are about to find out why we have rules prohibiting discussing this issue. I let this post go because it's in R&R's.
Flame on,
A2I agree with everything you said, except the preaching part. It's not for me, but to each their own. I just hope I never have a condom blowout. If that happens you're right I the mix with all the risk takers. It's a risky business, we should all know that by now.
Are fucking up my PayDar!
After decades of NYC hunting, my eye is nigh-hawk trained to hone in on the slow-moving, the loitering, the poor, the huddles masses. You get the point.
So now, there's all these pseudo-loitering "figures" messing with my echo-location pings (to flagrantly mix my wildlife metaphor)!
Luckily, I've not yet been arrested for jerking off on on of 'them!
The things some of you like and perform with all willing providers, such as lfk / dfk, DATY, BBBJ, greek, etc. BLOWS MY MIND. I can't get beyond the VERY REAL std risk of this hobby. Providers have ZERO incentive to tell us if they have an std. (And vice-versa, so these girls who have no rules are always at risk to become a "sexual zombie" from a random john and then spread it to us regular johns.)
I wish I could delude myself to enjoy DATY / dfk, but I long ago gave those activities except for the very rare provider. I just can never get beyond that what-the-fuck-did-I-just-do feeling afterwards if I play it riskyBeen Away on vacation so I have been out of the loop.
I am not attacking your position. Merely stating my own opinion and that of some others, I'm sure.
Risk? Yes of course there is risk associated with each and every one of those activities. The only thing is, you risk that each and every day with a girl you pick up in a bar or at the beach or at school. Seriously, you play Russian roulette with anyone you have relations with unless you are in a REAL monogamous relationship. You may be, but is your S. O. ? How do you know she isn't blowing her favorite bartender BB? We all HOPE thats not the case, but can you REALLY be sure?
I find that kissing is very much not a 'high' level activity regarding disease, but DATY certainly can be. But for me I never dine the first time. I usually see a girl 2-3 times before I stick my tongue in for a taste. I have never contracted an STD in the years I have been active in this hobby. I consider myself quite lucky to be sure. But BBBJ? Unless she has open sores in her mouth or on her lips the risk of transmission to you / me is as low as kissing. Much more risky for her if you are infected and pop in her mouth. But the F to M risk is relatively low.
As for BBFS or BB Greek? No way! I find that to be a serious risk that I would never take. Especially the Anal. Too mush risk of blood exposure and that is just insane. But to each his own. If I discover a girl I see has been BBFS or BB anal, chances are I won't see her for any service. Which puts the whole idea of transparency in jeopardy. If a girl knows she will lose biz she has more incentive NOT to tell.
So risk is a relative term to each individual. You could be at risk if a girl is blowing you and tongues your balls and shaft below the cover. So how does that cover help you sleep at night when you look at the dirty details of service. The best way to stay that safe is to find another hobby. OR learn to internalize the guilt, shame and worry associated with these activites. AND see trusted providers instead of traveling BP beauties. Also, develop a good relationship with your Doctor and get checked often.
Like the NYS lottery,"HEY, you never know!"
Peace.
PK
So we had this review posted for Nuru Goddess Dominique earlier this afternoon.
Originally Posted by TableToy [View Original Post]
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/.ont-25/8303335
Called early set up appointment for noon. She said call when you get close,
I called at 11:50 no answer and message box was full. Tried about 15 times.
And gave up. I did read of this happening another a while back. A waste of gas and time.
I thought it was a bit odd and so did some others as Dom's service has been nothing short of spectacular. I'm not a guy that normally goes back for seconds, I like variety but I have seen Dom more times than I can count, which is not enough. I saw her today at 4:00 and asked her if she had missed an appointment at noon today, I did not tell her about the bad review. Dom told me that someone had called for a noon appointment but they didn't have or would not provide references. She no longer sees new clients that don't have references. She had no reason to defend herself as I had not mentioned the review at that time.
So I can only guess that the bad review is sour grapes for not being seen. I have seen it before and I'm sure I will see it again. The reason I believe Dom's side of the story is because of how well I know her and how much I trust her. She has become a friend that I look forward to seeing for reasons other than the Nuru activities. The other reason I believe Dom is the review itself. 15 times dude? Really? No one tries 15 times before they give up. 5 maybe, not 15.
Sorry, got to raise the BS flag on this one.
Gentlemen, it is VITAL that the integrity of these reviews be maintained. Using the reviews as retaliation when a provider won't see you or won't do what you want them to do ruins that integrity. The BS from a lot of the providers is bad enough, let's take the high road on our end.
Rdavis1972
07-10-13, 10:47
Based on the fact that several providers read our comments, in particular in the Massage Parlor Reports.
Perhaps at least in that area we should refrain from any specifics of a good nature, and just.
Give a rating of C, B, B+, A, A+. I saw a report where 1 girl "Judy" was given outstanding.
Reviews and a lot of description. Well she changed her name and service stopped.
On the other hand far more beneficial would be negative reviews so we can save our money and.
Maybe even encourage better service. As always YMMV but at least we'd know the.
Rip offs and wouldn't jeopardize the good spots. Just an idea.On the surface this sounds like a great idea, it would address the concern that you bring up. That being said, if all you give is a letter grade with no detail, all that tells us is that you Had a certain level of good time with a provider. You may have an experience that you consider an A+ because the provider happened to offer exactly what you were looking for. Somebody else may have the exact same experience with this provider and only consider it a D- because she didn't offer what he was looking for. Does this D- mean this is a bad provider? Of course not. It just means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We're not here just to avoid getting ripped off, another big part of this is to find a good provider that offers what we're looking for. Read back through the threads. What is the most commonly asked follow up question to reports? What is on the menu (or some variation). Without session detail this forum turns into just a complaint board where people come to complain about bad sessions, because basically all you've got to say is a detailed complaint about a bad session, or a vague letter grade for a good one that tells nothing about that session.
Good to see we are finally making coming sense out of something that is very easy to figure out. We should never be going against fellow board members just respect their opinion and use what suits us. I used to want to post commentary and always did but that put me on the defensive and alienated me with a lot of board members. I sit back and let people express themselves because after all its their opinion and they are entitled to it. I may not always agree but I know people have the same thoughts likes and dislikes etc also. My methods are unique because they work for me and I don't expect people to follow what I do. I hit fellow board members via PM so that they have a one one chance to answer my critiques if they choose to.
So we had this review posted for Nuru Goddess Dominique earlier this afternoon.
Originally Posted by TableToy [View Original Post]
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/.ont-25/8303335
Called early set up appointment for noon. She said call when you get close,
I called at 11:50 no answer and message box was full. Tried about 15 times.
And gave up. I did read of this happening another a while back. A waste of gas and time.
I thought it was a bit odd and so did some others as Dom's service has been nothing short of spectacular. I'm not a guy that normally goes back for seconds, I like variety but I have seen Dom more times than I can count, which is not enough. I saw her today at 4:00 and asked her if she had missed an appointment at noon today, I did not tell her about the bad review. Dom told me that someone had called for a noon appointment but they didn't have or would not provide references. She no longer sees new clients that don't have references. She had no reason to defend herself as I had not mentioned the review at that time.
So I can only guess that the bad review is sour grapes for not being seen. I have seen it before and I'm sure I will see it again. The reason I believe Dom's side of the story is because of how well I know her and how much I trust her. She has become a friend that I look forward to seeing for reasons other than the Nuru activities. The other reason I believe Dom is the review itself. 15 times dude? Really? No one tries 15 times before they give up. 5 maybe, not 15.
Sorry, got to raise the BS flag on this one.
Gentlemen, it is VITAL that the integrity of these reviews be maintained. Using the reviews as retaliation when a provider won't see you or won't do what you want them to do ruins that integrity. The BS from a lot of the providers is bad enough, let's take the high road on our end.I agree with you 100000% reviews should NEVER be used for retribution. If it didn't work out or you had no chemistry there are decent ways to say that. Writing a Bullshit review is not one of them!
On the surface this sounds like a great idea, it would address the concern that you bring up. That being said, if all you give is a letter grade with no detail, all that tells us is that you Had a certain level of good time with a provider. You may have an experience that you consider an A+ because the provider happened to offer exactly what you were looking for. Somebody else may have the exact same experience with this provider and only consider it a D- because she didn't offer what he was looking for. Does this D- mean this is a bad provider? Of course not. It just means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We're not here just to avoid getting ripped off, another big part of this is to find a good provider that offers what we're looking for. Read back through the threads. What is the most commonly asked follow up question to reports? What is on the menu (or some variation). Without session detail this forum turns into just a complaint board where people come to complain about bad sessions, because basically all you've got to say is a detailed complaint about a bad session, or a vague letter grade for a good one that tells nothing about that session.Again, I agree completely. Who is to say that one man's 'D' isn't another man's 'A+++'? Writing descriptive reviews and detailed accounts of the session gives guys the BEST information to make better decisions! Some fucktards will never understand no matter how many times or ways you try to lay it out for them. Their motives and lack of good 'mongering' sense shows through every time.
Just because one or two girls drop off the radar because they don't like being reviewed is no reason (not a good one, IMHO) to stop providing fellow hobbyists with reliable info. It could save any one of us a great deal of time and aggro simply by stating she is not a GFE or does NOT do BBBJ. For every one that drops out 10 more take her place. Then it is the review system or community that helps keep the ball rolling.
Sorry if some of my posts seem out of context but Tabletoy is on my admin-blocked list so I don't see those posts. Only if somebody quotes will I see that info. Which is probably best for all involved, 'cause y'all know how I am! And I'm not going to change anytime soon! In the lyrics of Sammy Davis jr " I gotta be ME, I just gotta be ME!"
Peace.
PK
Hobbyist10
07-10-13, 15:55
Rdavis1972 wrote. On the surface this sounds like a great idea, it would address the concern that you bring up. That being said, if all you give is a letter grade with no detail, all that tells us is that you Had a certain level of good time with a provider. You may have an experience that you consider an A+ because the provider happened to offer exactly what you were looking for. Somebody else may have the exact same experience with this provider and only consider it a D- because she didn't offer what he was looking for. Does this D- mean this is a bad provider? Of course not. It just means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We're not here just to avoid getting ripped off, another big part of this is to find a good provider that offers what we're looking for. Read back through the threads. What is the most commonly asked follow up question to reports? What is on the menu (or some variation). Without session detail this forum turns into just a complaint board where people come to complain about bad sessions, because basically all you've got to say is a detailed complaint about a bad session, or a vague letter grade for a good one that tells nothing about that session.
Point well taken. I guess that ratings wouldn't provide the info needed. It did sound good on the surface though.
Good to see we are finally making coming sense out of something that is very easy to figure out. We should never be going against fellow board members just respect their opinion and use what suits us. I used to want to post commentary and always did but that put me on the defensive and alienated me with a lot of board members. I sit back and let people express themselves because after all its their opinion and they are entitled to it. I may not always agree but I know people have the same thoughts likes and dislikes etc also. My methods are unique because they work for me and I don't expect people to follow what I do. I hit fellow board members via PM so that they have a one one chance to answer my critiques if they choose to.I understand the desire to let sleeping dogs lie. BUT, I think that there are times and situations that call for 'discussion'. We are not talking about whether or not one member likes CBJ and another likes BBBJ. We often are discussing 'good ettiquette' or proper tcb skills. Some guys come on the board, shit in the cereal bowl and are never heard from again. Those of us who have been around the block a few times (I know you have been here a long time under a similar handle) don't always take well to 'bad information' or purposeful misleading of newbies. Or Vindictive bullshit posts with an agenda.
I get that you seem to dislike or disagree with the drama associated with these forums. Thats fine. And I don't want to be offensive to other members. But to each his own bro. Just like YMMV with providers, so too does the 'online experience'. If you don't like the banter and the playful ribbing, don't engage. For what its worth, it's not like you are here for the 'Albany market info' it appears you primarily monger in the downstate area-so if you don't like the scene, why participate?
Peace.
PK
So we had this review posted for Nuru Goddess Dominique earlier this afternoon.
Originally Posted by TableToy [View Original Post]
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/.ont-25/8303335
Called early set up appointment for noon. She said call when you get close,
I called at 11:50 no answer and message box was full. Tried about 15 times.
And gave up. I did read of this happening another a while back. A waste of gas and time.
I thought it was a bit odd and so did some others as Dom's service has been nothing short of spectacular. I'm not a guy that normally goes back for seconds, I like variety but I have seen Dom more times than I can count, which is not enough. I saw her today at 4:00 and asked her if she had missed an appointment at noon today, I did not tell her about the bad review. Dom told me that someone had called for a noon appointment but they didn't have or would not provide references. She no longer sees new clients that don't have references. She had no reason to defend herself as I had not mentioned the review at that time.
So I can only guess that the bad review is sour grapes for not being seen. I have seen it before and I'm sure I will see it again. The reason I believe Dom's side of the story is because of how well I know her and how much I trust her. She has become a friend that I look forward to seeing for reasons other than the Nuru activities. The other reason I believe Dom is the review itself. 15 times dude? Really? No one tries 15 times before they give up. 5 maybe, not 15.
Sorry, got to raise the BS flag on this one.
Gentlemen, it is VITAL that the integrity of these reviews be maintained. Using the reviews as retaliation when a provider won't see you or won't do what you want them to do ruins that integrity. The BS from a lot of the providers is bad enough, let's take the high road on our end.I did call 15 times since I really wanted the NURU and she had great reviews. She agreed to the appointment and never asked once for any reference at all just a first name. It's very disappointing, fortunately I was able to get into the CP massage and had a wonderful time though not NURU. I may try Dom. Again 1 more time and explain what she said happened. If what she said is true, then why didn't she answer the phone at noon and ask for references?
Rdavis1972 wrote. On the surface this sounds like a great idea, it would address the concern that you bring up. That being said, if all you give is a letter grade with no detail, all that tells us is that you Had a certain level of good time with a provider. You may have an experience that you consider an A+ because the provider happened to offer exactly what you were looking for. Somebody else may have the exact same experience with this provider and only consider it a D- because she didn't offer what he was looking for. Does this D- mean this is a bad provider? Of course not. It just means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We're not here just to avoid getting ripped off, another big part of this is to find a good provider that offers what we're looking for. Read back through the threads. What is the most commonly asked follow up question to reports? What is on the menu (or some variation). Without session detail this forum turns into just a complaint board where people come to complain about bad sessions, because basically all you've got to say is a detailed complaint about a bad session, or a vague letter grade for a good one that tells nothing about that session.
Point well taken. I guess that ratings wouldn't provide the info needed. It did sound good on the surface though.I think it's easy enough for members to understand a simple system. FS or BJ gets between A- to A+, Nude or topless B- to B+, great HJ B- to B+, if no HJ just say it's a legit place, if it's a lackluster HJ then give it a C what I'm saying is that a lot of these places try and stay off the radar, and when a lot of detailed reviews show up they tend to pull back on service or change girls. A sample review might be something like, went to Schenectady Spa was pleasantly surprised by clean place, lockable doors, good looking masseuse that enjoyed her work. Massage was very thorough and overall service was a B+.
A few of you self absorbed writers say my comments on Dominique were only for retaliation. That's total B. S. I merely reported a fact, I'd really like to get a NURU from this provider. She asked for no references as I said and then after I drove to the designated spot some 30 minutes away she didn't answer the phone. I did not make any of this up because of a bad experience with Dom. Just couldn't complete the appointment because of her end. If you know of any better way to get an actual meet up please elaborate.
I think it's easy enough for members to understand a simple system. FS or BJ gets between A- to A+, Nude or topless B- to B+, great HJ B- to B+, if no HJ just say it's a legit place, if it's a lackluster HJ then give it a C what I'm saying is that a lot of these places try and stay off the radar, and when a lot of detailed reviews show up they tend to pull back on service or change girls. A sample review might be something like, went to Schenectady Spa was pleasantly surprised by clean place, lockable doors, good looking masseuse that enjoyed her work. Massage was very thorough and overall service was a B+.Using a rating system that implies quality will be extraordinarily confusing if you mean it simply as a code.
Rdavis1972
07-11-13, 21:06
I think it's easy enough for members to understand a simple system. FS or BJ gets between A- to A+, Nude or topless B- to B+, great HJ B- to B+, if no HJ just say it's a legit place, if it's a lackluster HJ then give it a C what I'm saying is that a lot of these places try and stay off the radar, and when a lot of detailed reviews show up they tend to pull back on service or change girls. A sample review might be something like, went to Schenectady Spa was pleasantly surprised by clean place, lockable doors, good looking masseuse that enjoyed her work. Massage was very thorough and overall service was a B+.The problem with a system like this is that in order for it to mean anything to anybody, they need to know how to decode the rating. If everybody knows the code, what's the point? It's just another unnecessary layer of confusion.
I think it's easy enough for members to understand a simple system. FS or BJ gets between A- to A+, Nude or topless B- to B+, great HJ B- to B+, if no HJ just say it's a legit place, if it's a lackluster HJ then give it a C what I'm saying is that a lot of these places try and stay off the radar, and when a lot of detailed reviews show up they tend to pull back on service or change girls. A sample review might be something like, went to Schenectady Spa was pleasantly surprised by clean place, lockable doors, good looking masseuse that enjoyed her work. Massage was very thorough and overall service was a B+.Why? What purpose would this serve? All of your ratings are at best subjective. Lets just stick to giving a girl a review with an explanation of why you are saying the things you are about her. I for one will not participate in an unnecessary layer of ratings. It's kinda like the "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" deal. I have had some pretty good pussy from girls who never got undressed. They just pulled up their skirt and I plowed away.
This suggestion kinda reminds me of the bureaucracy that epitomizes all of our state programs and employees. Notice I refrained from using the term "state worker" as this is a fictitious oxy-moron.
Just write your review and justify it with details.
L10
A few of you self absorbed writers say my comments on Dominique were only for retaliation. That's total B. S. I merely reported a fact, I'd really like to get a NURU from this provider. She asked for no references as I said and then after I drove to the designated spot some 30 minutes away she didn't answer the phone. I did not make any of this up because of a bad experience with Dom. Just couldn't complete the appointment because of her end. If you know of any better way to get an actual meet up please elaborate.Self absorbed? Go f%k yourself. I heard your side of the story and I heard Dom's side. I believe her side. The way I presented it to her she had no reason to defend herself whatsoever. No one else here has had the "problem" you had so your "problem" lacks credibility. The fact that you have been blocked by several members of this board, add me to that list, also costs you credibility.
Have a nice life.
The problem with a system like this is that in order for it to mean anything to anybody, they need to know how to decode the rating. If everybody knows the code, what's the point? It's just another unnecessary layer of confusion.I only suggest some system and only relating to massage places, that protects the girls from specifics that could cause management to remove them, thus in the long run hurting ourselves. This apparently happened at the spa on Central Ave, where Judy was giving "great" service but after a detailed review it stopped. I refer anyone interested to the type of reviews at Spahunters as an example http://www.spahunters.com/spa/8807/Good-Life-Spa?rtn=%2Fspas%2FNew-York%2Fother%2F%3Fstatus%3D%26sort%3DREVIEWED%26page%3D1
Member #4407
07-16-13, 23:41
To add my depreciated sixpence on the issues recently discussed:
A letter-grade-rating system is good in theory, but will be awful in practice. I get the idea. If we advertise a provider is doing extras in a place where maybe she doesn't want that known, right, we could jeopardize a good thing. I have a perfect solution for that: DON'T REVIEW HER THEN. Yes, mongers will lose out, but at least the original poster will have kept his good thing going. Nothing wrong with being selfish every now-and-then. If the provider feels she wants more clients because she does extra activities, then she has to get the word out. No way around it. I have debated this too, and so if I feel my review will jeopardize a good thing, I just don't give every darn DDarkness-mandated detail.
As for fellow mongers getting on Table Toy's case, I don't get it. He didn't actually give the provider a bad review. He simply said she was a no-show / no-answer. Any monger who has been in the hobby long enough has experienced the extreme frustration when this happens. It sucks. It's a total loss. Time, gas, opportunity cost, and still no pussy. Back to square one or give up for the night. I don't review every provider who does a no-show, because I get it, shit happens. There are infinite reasons why a provider will do this: kid issues, SO issues, handler issues, over-booking, etc. Escorts aren't known to be paragons of accountability. To castigate Table Toy because he called out the provider for bad TCB skills isn't fair to the forum. That's info we need. And if asked directly, of course a provider will justify any of her actions. After all, we're not paying cash to fuck Mother Theresa.
As for fellow mongers getting on Table Toy's case, I don't get it. /QUOTE]I believe it wasn't so much this post, but his prior post (in which he essentially called another member a liar) , that lent itself to lingering ill-will.
Here's a portion of that post (of note. What Mr Mojo reported was very similar to services others have reported as well) :
[quote]04-18-13 19:03.
Albany-Schenectady-Troy: Massage Parlor Reports.
TableToy.
I think this is embellished?
No name of attendant? Is Mr MoJo that "Studley" that he gets services no one else reports? I think perhaps a fantasy has been reported here.
To add my depreciated sixpence on the issues recently discussed:
A letter-grade-rating system is good in theory, but will be awful in practice. I get the idea. If we advertise a provider is doing extras in a place where maybe she doesn't want that known, right, we could jeopardize a good thing. I have a perfect solution for that: DON'T REVIEW HER THEN. Yes, mongers will lose out, but at least the original poster will have kept his good thing going. Nothing wrong with being selfish every now-and-then. If the provider feels she wants more clients because she does extra activities, then she has to get the word out. No way around it. I have debated this too, and so if I feel my review will jeopardize a good thing, I just don't give every darn DDarkness-mandated detail.
As for fellow mongers getting on Table Toy's case, I don't get it. He didn't actually give the provider a bad review. He simply said she was a no-show / no-answer. Any monger who has been in the hobby long enough has experienced the extreme frustration when this happens. It sucks. It's a total loss. Time, gas, opportunity cost, and still no pussy. Back to square one or give up for the night. I don't review every provider who does a no-show, because I get it, shit happens. There are infinite reasons why a provider will do this: kid issues, SO issues, handler issues, over-booking, etc. Escorts aren't known to be paragons of accountability. To castigate Table Toy because he called out the provider for bad TCB skills isn't fair to the forum. That's info we need. And if asked directly, of course a provider will justify any of her actions. After all, we're not paying cash to fuck Mother Theresa.First- DDarkness is a MOD in a different forum. Try to keep them straight, not everybody is fully aware of that reference.
Second- in that forum certain things are required for premium access. If you don't like the rules, don't play. Those same set of rules don't apply here or in the 10 other forums some of us use as well.
Third- a letter grade is just not a workable system in this type of situation. YMMV far too much from provider to provider or even the same one day to day. Not everybody has the same needs or fantasies. If you only like to jerk off in front of a girl, how does your A+ rating help the guy who digs FS or BBBJ or greek or any other kink or fetish? It just doesn't fly.
THUS the NEED for good reports and some quality of detail. These forums are to HELP OTHER MONGERS! How can you help if you say ' good massage plus extras'. 'or 'I left happy'. Guys need to understand that the powers that be KNOW what goes on. They know WHERE it goes on. And they don't NEED THESE BOARDS to figure it out. So please, guys, don't get all "afraid it will stop happening' cause you wrote a report about it.
Some chick didn't get fired because some dude reported she was giving extra service. She got fired because she GOT CAUGHT! Let us not be too over the top when it comes to stuff like this.
Write the report you want to write! Don't let anyone change the way you do what you do. Spitzer-you have gone to the mat several times on eccie because of not meeting PA requirements-and have said you don't want or need PA- totally cool bro. That is your choice, nobody should bust your balls about it.
BUT, some guys are going to want or ask for more detail, to better decide if they want to see a girl or not. Our money is hard earned we wish tos spend wisely, no more or less. If you want to help, cool. If not, then don't.
As for the 'other' members review or no-show report, that is his right to speak. It's a free country. Other members disagreed with his assessment of that girl because of their own experience with her. In a crowdsourced forum, you need to read and make your own choices from the 'volume' of information provided. I think others were more offended by the nature of the report and the 'history' or lack there of, of that particular member. People are more apt to believe a senior member with lots of 'solid' reports, as opposed to a new member with mostly argumentative posts and few comprehensive reports with usable info.
Just my 2. 5cents (adjusted for inflation);)
Peace.
PK
I don't think a rating systems works. If you want a quality provider, you have to read the reviews and find ones that fit your style. I have received provider recommendations from senior members, only to be dissapointed from time to time. Just because a woman clicks with one type of client and he has a really great time, doesn't mean she'll click with a friend of his. This ends up with one glowing review and one negative review. Just because she gets an A+ rating once doesn't mean she always will be that. I'd rather have the usual details we offer here vs a simplistic number / letter grading. This allows me to read up before making a call. SBA is classic case, she would have rave reviews, only to get dragged down by her problems and flame out, then 6 months later come back strong as ever for a little while, until she flamed out again. (no offense to SBA, she's a sweet as pie heartbreaker when she wants to be)
Rdavis1972
07-19-13, 15:53
I don't know why, but I am ALWAYS surprised by how much preaching is done on this site. I never said I was "special." I was getting what I paid for on a regular basis. Skip the lecture and provide some helpful information. For example, I'll provide you with some helpful information, it is not "your special" it is "you're special." I'm happy to help you out.I'm going to cut you a little slack here since I did reply to "your" (did I get it right this time?) post and therefore it's not hard to imagine why you'd think that I was singling you out, but that is not at all the case. I replied to "your" (I think I'm getting the hang of this.) post because it was the latest in the discussion and I didn't want my input to appear to be coming out of left field. It was meant as a reminder to all, as it is easy to start getting comfortable with these ladies. My point was, take the reviews for what they are, useful information, but never let "your" (eh, eh) guard down regardless of how many glowing reviews a provider has or from whom (yeah, I thought you'd be proud of that one) those review might have come from. Believe it or not I was actually trying to support "your" (sorry, I ran out of funnies) post.
I normally write with excellent grammar. As a well educated professional I take pride in proper use of the English language. That being said, I like to relax a little bit when posting to a web forum dedicated to the pursuit of good pussy for hire. I guess this reinforces my point, even here you can't let your guard down for a second. Next time I'm updating my resume I'll be sure to run it by you first. You just can't take any chances when "you're" (WOW, that one almost got by me) trying to land that dream job.
I have noticed that what is a "Great" experience to one guy, might be just an "okay" experience to another guy. I am starting to recognize that some members on here have the same expectations as me, and some members have other expectations. So I will try to pay closer attention to those posts that are more reflective of my views. Just an observation.
Your powers of observation serve you well young jedi!
I am not busting balls but I think we can all agree this should be obvious. And that is the reason I would be so against a letter grade system for any type of provider report. Massage, escort, SW, any kind of experience is really in the eye of the beholder. And one man's trash is another man's treasure, it REALLY is as simple as that.
I, for one, don't usually engage in FS with many providers. It is just my thing, I get plenty of straight sex at home but NEVER, EVER get any head! So, I see escorts almost exclusively for BBBJ, which means I can't rate a girl according to a letter system that would have solid meaning to others.
Some guys almost exclusively like FS, Some like to have a girl in the room while they just jerk-off, some are greek aficionados. Some guys LOVE fat BBW, some like ONLY spinners, black, white, blonde, redhead, big tits, small tits, big ass, small ass. The spectrum is so broad nobody could hope to pin it down.
For me, somedays I like thick, most days I like spinners, I LOVE redheads of all shapes and sizes (although BBW do nada for me). So depending on the day or the mood I'm in can directly relate to my overall experience and effect my final review. I have had awesome CBJs from ugly or less attractive girls and horrible BBBJs from some model material providers. Some girls are just great at riding rodeo style, others are dead fish. Some are both, depending on the dude or the day. This is almost as ethereal a question as the chicken or the egg.
WHICH, is why it is so important to provide some detail regarding your encounter. That will help everyone here make better choices and read between the lines. If a guy says it took 'all day and countless calls' to finally meet and then says he had a bad time. Got to take it with a grain of salt because anyone would be annoyed to all fucking hell by the time the meeting took place... and then just 1 word out of place could make you pull your pants up and walk out. Many of us have been there, many of you WILL be there someday, count on it!
So in closing, I only want to say please take the time to try to write a decent, cohesive report. It doesn't have to be long winded prose.... But being 'thorough' is very helpful and you don't have to be 'Thoreau' to do that.... Lets try to have some standards men! And GET FUCKED! Then tell us about it ;)
Peace.
PK
Member #4407
07-21-13, 01:25
I'm going to cut you a little slack here since I did reply to "your" (did I get it right this time?) post and therefore it's not hard to imagine why you'd think that I was singling you out, but that is not at all the case. I replied to "your" (I think I'm getting the hang of this.) post because it was the latest in the discussion and I didn't want my input to appear to be coming out of left field. It was meant as a reminder to all, as it is easy to start getting comfortable with these ladies. My point was, take the reviews for what they are, useful information, but never let "your" (eh, eh) guard down regardless of how many glowing reviews a provider has or from whom (yeah, I thought you'd be proud of that one) those review might have come from. Believe it or not I was actually trying to support "your" (sorry, I ran out of funnies) post.
I normally write with excellent grammar. As a well educated professional I take pride in proper use of the English language. That being said, I like to relax a little bit when posting to a web forum dedicated to the pursuit of good pussy for hire. I guess this reinforces my point, even here you can't let your guard down for a second. Next time I'm updating my resume I'll be sure to run it by you first. You just can't take any chances when "you're" (WOW, that one almost got by me) trying to land that dream job.Well done RDavis. I enjoyed you're entertaining response. Your a funny dude! Whom does that other member think he is, correcting you're english. We mostly all right good. Afterall, this is'nt middle-school grammar class.
Member #4407
07-21-13, 17:08
Hey Mister I'm glad you had a change of heart.
I'm glad your had a great time with Lexy. Because I didn't think you would ever call again after your what wrote in post # 686 under in the Streetwalker thread. You said 'If I call her and she tells me 150 for 30 mins, guess what? NOT GON DO IT! Read my lips, na gan the! ', But I'm glad fun was had by all! Because I needed I mean she needed the money.
I'm glad she was able to help you with your fetish!
No hard feelings dude. I just call 'them like I see them. And I have seen A LOT of you guys!
RM122What the fuck is this?
I don't like the idea of the ladies (or their handlers, who are guys playing for the opposing team) scrutinizing our reviews and calling us out if we change an opinion. These forums serve as a "locker room" for dudes to talk about pussy. It ain't going to read well to feminine eyes. Fuck, I'd hate to read "Monger Reviews" posted by providers. I know it's impossible to prevent the ladies / handlers from reading, but at least maybe the mods can prevent them from posting?
And what's up with that creepy, cryptic last line? It's like: "I AM THE GREAT ORACLE OF DELPHI! I SEE ALL. I KNOW ALL OF YOU. WHAT YOU DO. WHY. WHEN. WHERE. WITH WHOM. AND ALL YOUR DARK, DIRTY FETISHES." Ahhhh, good for you. Now go suck a dick.
Rdavis1972
07-22-13, 13:59
"I' meaning YOU are Lexy? Is that correct?
Peace.
PKI don't know if this is Alison / Lexi. It's certainly implied in the plate of crow presented to Loki, though something's off. Almost all of the posts from Nmale1962 are in support of Alison / Lexi. Either a +1 of somebody else's positive report, or an original glowing reviewer, or a cut her some slack type thing. All seems to lend weight to this being Alison / Lexi. All that is except for the one post where Nmale1962 implies the Alison stole "his" debit card (below). Why would Alison post this about herself? She wouldn't. Perhaps this is a close friend of Alison / Lexi that had an axe to grind back on January 24th when this post was made.
In any case, it is definitely VERY shady to say the least and does not paint a very pretty picture for Lexy in my eyes.
01/24/2013. This report from Nmale1962 implies that Alison stole "his" debit card.
I'm sorry I didn't post this sooner. I have been to Alison's place at least four times in the past three weeks. I have been drawn there just like everybody else on this board. All of my visits have been during the day. Never later than 1 pm. I also was thinking she was a good person in a bad situation. Here is where it all comes to an end for me. Last Friday we agreeded to go to lunch. Get her out of that area for a while. We have been talking just about every day. I know what she does and don't have a problem with it. I am not looking for wife I have one. And I'm not looking to become a sugar daddy. I believed she is a good kid in a bad situation. Friday morning we texted back and forth and I told her if something comes up we can do it another time. She texted me back saying we can have lunch at her place and asked if we could date after because she really needed the money. I said sure. There is should be no debate about her skills.
Here is where it all went downhill. I left work and picked up lunch. I paid with my debit card and for some reason in a rush I put in my debit card in my pocket instead of my wallet. When I pulled up to her place I locked my wallet in my glove compartment forgetting that my debt card still in my pocket. She lets me in. I notice she seemed a little different. I think she's was strung-out. So I go with it. As soon as we sit to eat lunch there's a pounding on the door. She tells to me to stay seated. Everything is ok. She answers the door and has a conversation with a man. I could not hear what was said but it seemed heated. Like someone is owed money and they knew I was there. She comes back and we continue with our lunch. A few minutes later pounding on the door again. She gets up lets someone in the house. I ask who that was. She tells me she had to let someone in the basement. But it sounded like they went upstairs. A few minutes later is pounding on the door again. This goes on a least 3 more times. Now by my count there is at least 5 other people in the house with us. We do finish lunch and she asks if I want to go to the back part of the house. I said she sure. I'm thinking with the wrong head. We sit on the bed for a while and pounding on the door again. She answers' it and comes back. I then give her a donation. She put it in her purse and says she will be right back. She comes back. We talk for a while and eventually my pants do come off. The same pants that have my debit card it. I don't need to go into detail. It's now time to go back to work and she walks me to the door.
Here is where it really goes downhill. I get back to work and one of my friends at work asks to see me. I go into his office and he closes the door. He point blank asks me what I was doing in that house. My reply was what you are talking about. He then tells me that he knows that I was there Wednesday and even knows I was there on a Sunday morning. He then tells me someone was looking out for me. And this is my only warning! He also tells me that the APD will have no pity on me if I become a victim in that neighborhood. His first concern is I went there to smoke crack. So I come clean with him and tell him there is a great girl that lives there. He assures me that there are no great girls in the neighborhood. Only working girls and crack heads. (I learn that he grew up in that neighborhood and his brother still lives there) I still don't know how who tipped him off on my actives. I assured him that I was not going back there. Now I'm feeling lucky that nothing happened to me and he will keep his mouth shut.
Not it's Friday night and I has promised my son I'll take him out to eat. We go to a local dinner to eat. Now it's time to pay and guess what no debit card. I pay with cash and fly home. Check my on-line banking and I was lucky no extra charges. I called the 800 number on the web site and disabled the card. Total damages $5 for a replacement card.
Earlier I sent two text messages to Alison after I left her place and before I knew the card was missing and got no response from her. I looked in my car at work and still can't find my debit card. I not am going to accuse her of taking anything from me. It may still turn up. I still have not heard from her (I have not texted her since Friday). At this point I feel lucky just to walk away.
I was not going to post this message but after reading the most recent post I don't want anyone to get hurt. Again I'm sorry I didn't post this sooner. Needless to say I will not be returning there.
There are more than a few reports from Nmale1962 about Allison / Lexy. If you read them closely it almost seems as if there ia a pattern of some 'freudian slips' in each and every post that points to actually 'being' Allison / Lexy.
It certainly would be easier if the truth came to light. I, for one, have no issue with girls posting in threads. It actually can be a very helpful dynamic. Although, I absolutely advise against them responding to bad reports. Unless there is a real issue of accuracy (like she wasn't IN TOWN and somebody posts a fake review to smear her good name) providers should remain mute unless its to say thanks.
BUT the shill posts by the sock puppet are really a bad bad bad idea. Nothing good will ever come of that behavior, especially when they get exposed for doing it. Then everyone seems to resent that situation. Better to cum clean sooner than later so less people feel deceived and slighted.
Just my 2 cents.
Peace.
PK
The truth is. I am NOT Alison. Yes it's spelled Alison not Allison. Loki Pk ripped me pretty good in a previous post. I waited a long time to get him back. Now it's over and I have no hard feelings. I will tell you that a popular senior member gave me Alison number on 12/31/2012. What is my relationship with Alison / Lexy? Like many mongers on this board I have seen her a lot. Anyone who has ever seen Alison / Lexy knows what you're going to get. Now let's all move on get fucked and report on it! If anyone has any problems or questions they can PM me.
Stay Safe
There are more than a few reports from Nmale1962 about Allison / Lexy. If you read them closely it almost seems as if there ia a pattern of some 'freudian slips' in each and every post that points to actually 'being' Allison / Lexy.
It certainly would be easier if the truth came to light. I, for one, have no issue with girls posting in threads. It actually can be a very helpful dynamic. Although, I absolutely advise against them responding to bad reports. Unless there is a real issue of accuracy (like she wasn't IN TOWN and somebody posts a fake review to smear her good name) providers should remain mute unless its to say thanks.
BUT the shill posts by the sock puppet are really a bad bad bad idea. Nothing good will ever come of that behavior, especially when they get exposed for doing it. Then everyone seems to resent that situation. Better to cum clean sooner than later so less people feel deceived and slighted.
Just my 2 cents.
Peace.
PK
Sweet Destiny
07-22-13, 22:57
I agree with you Loki. Some ladies still do not understand what a provider is. They think do but have the wrong idea of it.
There are more than a few reports from Nmale1962 about Allison / Lexy. If you read them closely it almost seems as if there ia a pattern of some 'freudian slips' in each and every post that points to actually 'being' Allison / Lexy.
It certainly would be easier if the truth came to light. I, for one, have no issue with girls posting in threads. It actually can be a very helpful dynamic. Although, I absolutely advise against them responding to bad reports. Unless there is a real issue of accuracy (like she wasn't IN TOWN and somebody posts a fake review to smear her good name) providers should remain mute unless its to say thanks.
BUT the shill posts by the sock puppet are really a bad bad bad idea. Nothing good will ever come of that behavior, especially when they get exposed for doing it. Then everyone seems to resent that situation. Better to cum clean sooner than later so less people feel deceived and slighted.
Just my 2 cents.
Peace.
PK
Hey Mister I'm glad you had a change of heart.
I'm glad your had a great time with Lexy. Because I didn't think you would ever call again after your what wrote in post # 686 under in the Streetwalker thread. You said 'If I call her and she tells me 150 for 30 mins, guess what? NOT GON DO IT! Read my lips, na gan the! ', But I'm glad fun was had by all! Because I needed I mean she needed the money.
And I have seen A LOT of you guys! RM122 You are either Allison or you are coaching her to respond via your account.
"And I have seen A LOT of you guys!"."
- what is that supposed to mean? I believe it means exactly what the words indicate.
" Because I needed I mean she needed the money"-again is that a Freudian slip or a weak attempt at busting my balls?
". Yes it's spelled Alison not Allison"-really? Did you read it off her drivers license? Why the need to fix the spelling? There is only one person I can think of that would care.
Previously you posted.
"This is Alison's first time on BP and she was never on CL. Prior to Alison hitting the Albany scene a little more than a year ago (look how far back the reviews go on her) she was an escort in Long Island and South Florida."That was mid feb, yet you only got her number from another member on the last day of December. Gee, you sure do get to know A LOT about a girl in a short time. I had been throat fucking her for over a year and never got any of that info. Hmmmm.
Also, you posted regarding her arrest for ebt fraud or some shit.
" All facts here.
There is a crackdown on selling food stamps (They come in the form of a Benefits card). The county needs to show they are cracking down on welfare fraud. A store owner will pay 50 cash for 100 worth of food stamps. This is a common practice. A corner store in that neighborhood has the reputation of engaging in that practice for years.
This corner store gets popped.
To get themselves off the hook they need to turn over names of people know who are selling their benefits. DSS has to show there cracking down on this activity. Here is a white girl with had a habit (With no deep roots in the neighborhood). She gets picked up. No one else from the neighborhood get turn busted.
She gets arrested. Two charges for one crime. Several days later DSS and the county issue a press release "cracking down on welfare fraud". Two people arrested Alison for selling food stamps and a woman from Watervliet for collecting SS checks. It's on Fox news Ch13. Keep up the good work DDS! And don't forget about the elections this fall.
This is all public knowledge. Again I do feel bad that I accused her steeling from me. I try to live by what my lawyer once told me 'Don't Trust anyone'."-for someone who had technically barely seen her for 3 weeks you sure do KNOW ALOT of info.
THEN you post about your Debit card missing.
"I was not going to post this message but after reading the most recent post I don't want anyone to get hurt. Again I'm sorry I didn't post this sooner. Needless to say I will not be returning there."And THEN less than 48 hours later you post.
"As for Alison herself she really is a great provider. She has always gone the extra mile to put a smile on my face. (just read the board) I still think she a really good kid living in a bad situation. That being said I'm sorry I implied she stole from me."Finally on 6/27 you posted.
'Alison ,I see her every day." ."HOW? Because you see her in the mirror? FUCK YEAH!
Also considering you have NEVER posted ANYTHING having to do with ANY OTHER PROVIDER I call YOU and your behavior suspect! SHILL SAYS I!
Welcome to RANTS AND RAVES MOTHERFUCKERS!
Peace.
PK
If NMale1962 isn't the provider, he is the providers pimp shilling for the provider. That's the only way these comments make any sense.
Either way, that dude isn't contributing anything positive to this community.
A review from a providers pimp is the definition of a self-licking ice cream cone in this community. Aren't there rules on this forum related to paid advertisements? That's basically the relationship NMale1962 has implied.
Your scared. LOL Get a life Big Fella. Move on! PM me is you want.
You are either Allison or you are coaching her to respond via your account.
- what is that supposed to mean? I believe it means exactly what the words indicate.
-again is that a Freudian slip or a weak attempt at busting my balls?
-really? Did you read it off her drivers license? Why the need to fix the spelling? There is only one person I can think of that would care.
Previously you posted.
That was mid feb, yet you only got her number from another member on the last day of December. Gee, you sure do get to know A LOT about a girl in a short time. I had been throat fucking her for over a year and never got any of that info. Hmmmm.
Also, you posted regarding her arrest for ebt fraud or some shit.
-for someone who had technically barely seen her for 3 weeks you sure do KNOW ALOT of info.
THEN you post about your Debit card missing.
And THEN less than 48 hours later you post.
Finally on 6/27 you posted.
HOW? Because you see her in the mirror? FUCK YEAH!
Also considering you have NEVER posted ANYTHING having to do with ANY OTHER PROVIDER I call YOU and your behavior suspect! SHILL SAYS I!
Welcome to RANTS AND RAVES MOTHERFUCKERS!
Peace.
PK
If NMale1962 isn't the provider, he is the providers pimp shilling for the provider. That's the only way these comments make any sense.
Either way, that dude isn't contributing anything positive to this community.
A review from a providers pimp is the definition of a self-licking ice cream cone in this community. Aren't there rules on this forum related to paid advertisements? That's basically the relationship NMale1962 has implied.If you look at all if his posts chronologically it's quite obvious there are two people using this account. (Or one person suffering from Dissociative identity disorder)
The first 5 posts are the same person, starting on 2-16-13 it's very obviously a different person. EVERYTHING about the writing is different, the thoughts are organized differently, the style is different, the unique disagreement in tenses from the original poster disapears and, the content itself changes. That continues until the post one 7-06-13 which reverts to the original writing style. After that it's mixed
So yeah, I'm on it. Ignore them, I think, (notice I said think, not know) he's letting her use his account and she's not smart enough to get the voice correct.
He's outed, ignore them and move on, with any luck, he or she will be stupid enough to get wise with me when I'm writing in blue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucz9eV7Eh0s
A2
If you look at all if his posts chronologically it's quite obvious there are two people using this account. (Or one person suffering from Dissociative identity disorder)
The first 5 posts are the same person, starting on 2-16-13 it's very obviously a different person. EVERYTHING about the writing is different, the thoughts are organized differently, the style is different, the unique disagreement in tenses from the original poster disapears and, the content itself changes. That continues until the post one 7-06-13 which reverts to the original writing style. After that it's mixed.
So yeah, I'm on it. Ignore them, I think, (notice I said think, not know) he's letting her use his account and she's not smart enough to get the voice correct.
He's outed, ignore them and move on, with any luck, he or she will be stupid enough to get wise with me when I'm writing in blue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucz9eV7Eh0s
A2Well played my good man! Well played indeed!
Peace.
PK
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/beatiful-hot-sexy-massage-by-melissa-22/12110081
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hot-beautiful-indian-female-massage-therapy-22/12063663 Saw Melissa who is very slim and attractive. She says she has several girls working for her. She has a small house in Schenectady with a single mattress set up as a massage table. She wears lingerie but any touching of her is extra. She has very limited skills in body rubs, no pre-flip at all and HE is totally mechanical hoping that the visual will get you to respond enough. She is pleasant but all business and not even close to the other advertisers I've seen on BP. I recommend you go elsewhere she's expensive for no delivery or anything you might hope for.
Your scared. LOL Get a life Big Fella. Move on! PM me is you want.Seems someone has dropped off the radar.
I always find it funny when someone says 'get a life'. Hmmm.... I have a life, which is what pays for 'your' life. ;)
Maybe I'll quit my job and start sucking off the gov't teet. Who is going to pay for all those EBT scams now?
YEAH, who's scared now?
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PM is you want. LOL.
PK
Seems someone has dropped off the radar.
I always find it funny when someone says 'get a life'. Hmmm. I have a life, which is what pays for 'your' life. .
Maybe I'll quit my job and start sucking off the gov't teet. Who is going to pay for all those EBT scams now?
YEAH, who's scared now?
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PM is you want. LOL.
PKLet's take this off line! Read my PM!
Then let's see who's scared! HAHAHAHAHA
Let's take this off line! Read my PM!
Then let's see who's scared! HAHAHAHAHA
Here is the PM this asshole just sent me! Now normally I would NEVER post the contents of a PM, but since this asshole is trying to threaten me I figured its a 'special exception'. So now we can all see what this NMALE/LEXY/Allison group is all about!
"Hey Cowboy. I had a deal for you! Let's meet and if I'm Alison / Lexy you get a free hour of services. If I'm not Alison / Lexy we can talk about it. And I'll tell you I saw you go in the Travel Lodge and Leave the Travel Lodge. And I really like my chances. Meeting place let's say 1st street and Judson. Noon on Friday and we can talk about it! As for my relationship with Alison, It's none of your fucking Business! Understand. Just because you pays a women to suck your cock doesn't mean she's your best friend. I got news for you. Once they get the money they want it over. They will tell you anything you want to hear. One FOIL request with DMV and ill get all the info I need. Get it.
Now because I'm a nice guy and Alison has enough problems I am willing to forget you even exist. Just leave the Kid alone! No more Alison / Lexy posts. If not let's meet up and talk about it. Your Choice. Remember I can get kicked off this site but they can't stop me from going to DMV."
Yup. Real nice you fucking scumbag!
Fuck off.
PK
Here is the PM this asshole just sent me! Now normally I would NEVER post the contents of a PM, but since this asshole is trying to threaten me I figured its a 'special exception'. So now we can all see what this NMALE / LEXY / Allison group is all about!
"Hey Cowboy. I had a deal for you! Let's meet and if I'm Alison / Lexy you get a free hour of services. If I'm not Alison / Lexy we can talk about it. And I'll tell you I saw you go in the Travel Lodge and Leave the Travel Lodge. And I really like my chances. Meeting place let's say 1st street and Judson. Noon on Friday and we can talk about it! As for my relationship with Alison, It's none of your fucking Business! Understand. Just because you pays a women to suck your cock doesn't mean she's your best friend. I got news for you. Once they get the money they want it over. They will tell you anything you want to hear. One FOIL request with DMV and ill get all the info I need. Get it.
Now because I'm a nice guy and Alison has enough problems I am willing to forget you even exist. Just leave the Kid alone! No more Alison / Lexy posts. If not let's meet up and talk about it. Your Choice. Remember I can get kicked off this site but they can't stop me from going to DMV."
Yup. Real nice you fucking scumbag!
Fuck off.
PKAs much as I hate to rain on this jackasses parade (Ok, that's a lie, I'm loving raining on his parade) , he's an idiot.
Your not going to get someone's personal information from the DMV based on a license plate number with just a FOIL request. You're going to need a court order and I would love to be a fly on the wall while you try to explain why you need one of those.
When you make a threat, it helps to be educated enough to know if you are actually going to be able to carry it out.
Hobbyist10
07-30-13, 17:39
Lexy was a cracked out scumbag when I saw her, and I related that in my review. Unfortunately Loki gave her a very positive review less than a week later.
Hobbyist10
07-30-13, 18:09
If this is Lexy's "handler", she can't be much different. Two peas in a pod. She should just move away, a fresh start far away from here. You don't have anything to worry about Loki. Don't let this guy get to you.
Peace Out
Lexy was a cracked out scumbag when I saw her, and I related that in my review. Unfortunately Loki gave her a very positive review less than a week later.Yup what a fucking mistake on my part right? Oh well, life teaches hard lessons to all of us one way or the other. What is really a shame is without that asshole she would probably do just fine on her own. Clean up from the drugs and take real care of herself like a 'lady' instead of a junkie. But we all know that isn't going to happen.
What I find really laughable is the reference he makes to---
" Just because you pays a women to suck your cock doesn't mean she's your best friend. I got news for you. Once they get the money they want it over. They will tell you anything you want to hear. Now because I'm a nice guy and Alison has enough problems I am willing to forget you even exist. Just leave the Kid alone! No more Alison / Lexy posts."
WHAT? I never said she was my friend or ever wanted to be. Shit, I don't think we have said 10 words to each other except for the TCB parts. And I also find it funny that the 'Ghetto' slang actually finds it's way into the written word. 'you pays a woman'. NO DIPSHIT. 'you pay' not pays! DUH DUH DUH DOH DUH!
And as far as 'leave the kid alone". I have NEVER been hard on her, only the SHILL who portrayed himself to be a monger 'in the know'.... Had he come clean a few weeks ago and simply said , 'Yeah, I'm her friend and was trying to help her out. Sorry I'll stop".... nobody would have given a flying fuck and it all would have been business as usual for them. Instead, he threatens ME for doing nothing more than calling him out on his bullshit.
Foolish pimp, tricks are for kids! AND, I was the one who gave her A GOOD REVIEW! HAHAHAHA. Now THAT is good business sense right there!
As the old saying goes "You can't fix stupid". ;)
Peace.
PK
"IS YOU WANT" wow that explains a lot.
Rants and Raves thread, being a douche here is OK but threats never are. And baby I mean never. At the end of the day we have the most info and the Russian hackers that write our code can find anybody. This isn't a threat aimed at anybody, it's just a statement of fact.
Nmale, guys can write what they want, that's the nature of free forums, if the provider in question (who I know nothing about) provides good services, then most of her reviews will be good. If she doesn't, then they won't. It's the way it works. Threatening somebody to make them stop posting is always bad juju.
Loki is often a pain in my ass, I've told him this many times. He enjoys the argument, getting involved in a shoving match over the internet is just silly. Asking to met somebody is reality is sillier. Personally I would have agreed and then not gone.
Chill ladies, it's the internet.
Read about pussy, go fuck the pussy you read good things about, then come back and write about the pussy you just fucked. It's pretty simple.
These are the pussys I'm going to be fucking in 30 mins http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/Lolitas%20Love_4328-9425_12371.htm
Read it and weep ladies, read it and weep.
A2
When I said Loki is often a pain in the ass I should have said my ass and I should have written it like this
Loki is often a pain in my ass.
By writing it in blue, I lent the gravitas of my office to that statement and I didn't intend for it to be that heavy. For the record, I think (both personally and professionally) that he's a great addition to the A / S/T forum, while he does enjoy the occasional dustup, I think this forum and it's value are important to him.
A2.
PS I fucked those blondes yesterday, turned out to be sisters, turned out to be pretty fucking good.
SO, yeah. I'm on the hunt.
I am currently aiming at:
http://veronicaboyt69.wix.com/vgentlemanschoiceA big peeve of mine is a web site that plays music at me. My thinking is that it should be my choice whether I want to hear some crappy music or not. What if I'm surfing late at night and my SO is woken up by this? Not that I have an SO right now, but you get my drift. And then the fireworks? WFT?
Just give me some facts. Give me some pictures. Preferably real ones!
If you (the provider) have a truly well-done web site, then I'm going to assume I don't want to pay your price. And if you have one of these half-assed sites, then I'm not going to be at all impressed. So either way, you've wasted your time.
Crappy provider web sites are right up with playing with my radio on a car date.
Just my little afternoon rant.
Hobbyist10
08-03-13, 02:31
A big peeve of mine is a web site that plays music at me. My thinking is that it should be my choice whether I want to hear some crappy music or not. What if I'm surfing late at night and my SO is woken up by this? Not that I have an SO right now, but you get my drift. And then the fireworks? WFT?
Just give me some facts. Give me some pictures. Preferably real ones!
If you (the provider) have a truly well-done web site, then I'm going to assume I don't want to pay your price. And if you have one of these half-assed sites, then I'm not going to be at all impressed. So either way, you've wasted your time.
Crappy provider web sites are right up with playing with my radio on a car date.
Just my little afternoon rant.I could not agree more. That bothers me as well. The music I hear always sucks anyway. Some bee bop pariah scary crap. And it always blasts loud at the worst time. You are not alone my friend.
Rdavis1972
08-03-13, 07:24
I could not agree more. That bothers me as well. The music I hear always sucks anyway. Some bee bop pariah scary crap. And it always blasts loud at the worst time. You are not alone my friend.I learned a long time ago to never surf with your sound on. My speakers are always turned off unless I'm currently listening to something.
LordPippin
08-04-13, 14:13
Am I the only one who looks at the bpage ads that say things like "back by popular demand" and think "I don't recall you being popular or in demand" or "forget the rest, I'm the best." and I think "No. No you aren't. Your reviews say otherwise." How about when an ad uses the word "upscale" and they end up being in total no-tells with the one light bulb out in the room, and it reeks of cigarettes. I think there was even one that said she was "open minded" and it actually translated to mish only, no fingers anywhere, no DFK, no GFE, and no enthusiasm. Some of these girls are as open minded as a caucasian, republican evangelical southern minister in charge of a bible camp.
Am I the only one who looks at the bpage ads that say things like "back by popular demand" and think "I don't recall you being popular or in demand" or "forget the rest, I'm the best." and I think "No. No you aren't. Your reviews say otherwise." How about when an ad uses the word "upscale" and they end up being in total no-tells with the one light bulb out in the room, and it reeks of cigarettes. I think there was even one that said she was "open minded" and it actually translated to mish only, no fingers anywhere, no DFK, no GFE, and no enthusiasm. Some of these girls are as open minded as a caucasian, republican evangelical southern minister in charge of a bible camp.90% of the girls truly don't understand much about the business. They never take the time to find out what's really wanted at our end. Sure, some of them have skills, but I'm certainly not meeting too many who are actually smart. Many don't even bother to work on their skills, as though it doesn't matter.
I would bet that those who are smart soon figure out how to get $500 or more for a session. After all, why wouldn't they? And the rest just feed off the bottom along with all their dumb competition.
Writing crap that you're 'upscale' or 'in demand' doesn't convince me, either. In fact, I'm drawn to ads that are more honest. Just like I'm likely to repeat with a plain girl who doesn't annoy me and does a good job, while the hottie who thinks that just placing her mouth around my cock is enough gets passed by. A no-effort BJ works for 18-year old guys because they can cum without any stimulation. But for those of us slightly (e-hem) more advanced in years need actual skills.
Those words pretty much put them on my 'pay-no-mind- list'. Seriously, when I see shit like that I almost never even click on the ad, unless I'm really bored and need a good laugh!
What is even more amusing is when an ad reads upscale and then the wording in the ad-body is total Ghetto slang or all spelled poorly. 'Upscales gentlemens only'. Or the ever popular 'Upscale' ad with a shitty mattress in a shithole room with a cellulite princess doing the duck-lips kisses and doggy shit K-9 poses.
Oh yeah, REALLY upscale lady! PAHAHAHAHAHA!;)
Peace.
PK
In addition to all that, what also makes me bypass an ad is when the title is littered with dollar signs $$$exy!
You're ad is for an e$cort! I think we all get the hint that there's money involved!
Sweet Destiny
08-06-13, 00:25
Those words pretty much put them on my 'pay-no-mind- list'. Seriously, when I see shit like that I almost never even click on the ad, unless I'm really bored and need a good laugh!
What is even more amusing is when an ad reads upscale and then the wording in the ad-body is total Ghetto slang or all spelled poorly. 'Upscales gentlemens only'. Or the ever popular 'Upscale' ad with a shitty mattress in a shithole room with a cellulite princess doing the duck-lips kisses and doggy shit K-9 poses.
Oh yeah, REALLY upscale lady! PAHAHAHAHAHA.
Peace.
PKI am upscale.
Lmaoooooo!
P. S. Bad grammar is sooooooo irritating.
I am upscale.
Lmaoooooo!
P. S. Bad grammar is sooooooo irritating.:)
NICE!
Peace.
PK
Member #4407
08-06-13, 21:24
This isn't meant as an attack, just pointing out the irony. We're all here on a forum dedicated to a subject which, well, breaks the rules. The Hobby is a rule-breaker. Hence, Hobbyists, by nature, are rule breakers. So I don't get the extreme punctiliousness regarding forum posting guidelines. This goes for the moderators too. One would think this is a Women's Incontinence forum."Ladies, how many times do I have to remind you? Comments regarding dribbling belong in the Symptoms section. And please remember, we can't discuss urethral discharge. It's clearly posted in the guidelines. Thank you, Ethel."
Member #4407
08-06-13, 22:02
Remember, I keep it upfront its business, ya want to be a hero, go to match. Com, If people could do any better they would.
You are the one that will get taken out by a buncha hood rats, not being brutal just honest.
Get off the white horse and leave it. The difference between myself and God, God never woke up wishing he was me!
All the bestYou just had your first hobby experience last week. And you're already a doyen. I'm impressed by your straightforward, coldhearted attitude. You're a quick learner. You get it dude. You keep it real. You'll go far in the hobby. Impressive bro. Impressive!
This isn't meant as an attack, just pointing out the irony. We're all here on a forum dedicated to a subject which, well, breaks the rules. The Hobby is a rule-breaker. Hence, Hobbyists, by nature, are rule breakers. So I don't get the extreme punctiliousness regarding forum posting guidelines. This goes for the moderators too. One would think this is a Women's Incontinence forum."Ladies, how many times do I have to remind you? Comments regarding dribbling belong in the Symptoms section. And please remember, we can't discuss urethral discharge. It's clearly posted in the guidelines. Thank you, Ethel."Jax has had the forum for 14 years or so and I've been a member for 12 of them. Back then we didn't have so many rules and guys came here to, well, find out about pussy. The conversation stayed on topic, pussy. There wasn't a lot of fighting or arguing. Then the web, and our site, got more social, the economy went bad up north and membership grew. Then there were a lot more guys here posting, but not so much about pussy. Trolls showed up, guys that just wanted to start fights, I guess they just don't like pussy all that much, I don't know.
The STD rule here was because some asshole would go see some girl and because she wasn't stupid enough to have BB Anal after he used a cactus to loosen her up he got pissed because he felt shorted. Did he write a post that said "She wouldn't let me butt fuck her with a cactus before giving me BB anal? No. He would say "she has the gift that keeps on giving." Or her competition would do the same. So what should we do? I should have every provider that wants to clear her name submit blood work? No we made a reasonable rule.
Arrest reports; same thing except add the bizarre Jr G-men that seem to get off reporting that chicks got busted. Before we made the rule we talked to a couple guys down here that were retired cops from up there about this. We asked them about cops using providers (especially street providers) for sting operations. Each and everyone of them, without hesitation said the same thing."It could happen but it's extremely unlikely because drug addicted street walkers make really bad witnesses" or words to that effect. So we made the rule.
Every rule on that FAQ came from experience, we had a problem that forced the guys that are just coming here to read about pussy to wade through pages of bullshit before they go to the pussy, and we created a rule to solve it.
Spitz you post some decent stuff, I get paid the same whether I throw a flag or not. I prefer the days when it's not. You also don't want to abide by the rules you agreed to abide by when you joined the forum. It's not going to happen, Jax pays me to enforce them and so I do it. Nobody is forcing you to come here and participate, hell you could make your own forum if you want to, but as long as you are posting here then I'm going to do my job. Simple as that, when I take money to do a thing, I do that thing.
Sometimes I try and use humor when I do it. Sometimes it backfires. I get tired of addressing the same problems over and over again so I try different ways to solve them. What I don't understand is this. If everything you posted was about actual experiences and you never said a chick had an STD, used weird punctuation or all caps, then like over 90% of the membership you would never receive an infraction. It's not that hard; read about pussy, go fuck the pussy you read about, then come back here and write about the pussy you have fucked.
One more thing, when you say it's not an attack then go on to post something like this;
This goes for the moderators too. One would think this is a Women's Incontinence forum."Ladies, how many times do I have to remind you? Comments regarding dribbling belong in the Symptoms section. And please remember, we can't discuss urethral discharge. It's clearly posted in the guidelines. Thank you, Ethel."directed at another person, in this case me, regardless of what you said in the beginning of the post, it's an attack. You will notice I did not reply in kind.
A2
This forum is rants AND raves. Heavy on the rants lately. Since I hobby for its value as a natural upper, drug free BTW, just thought I'd say something positive.
I truly enjoy that when I come back from one of those extended business trips reading through the forums here and catching up on the activities of the dudes and the duds out mongering with the ladies and bitches.
Love you ladies and dudes, not so much you duds and bitches.
More entertaining than TV.
Spitz. Your not a dude yet, but not a dud either. Stay odd, it's interesting, but you're walking a thin line that separates the odd from the drama queens.
As posted in BP advertisers thread..... (I'm not attacking the OP just starting a discussion re:hygiene.)
"Here is the bad. She hates when clients don't take a shower. I'm no expert and I know that all girls taste different but I would venture to say that if she took a shower that day it was maybe at 2AM and then she went to the gym. It wasnt bad but you could tell that it wasnt minty fresh."
The dichotomy is striking to say the least.... On the one hand her vag is - "It wasnt bad but you could tell that it wasnt minty fresh." :eek: So? Close? Not quite minty fresh?
OR .... "if she took a shower that day it was maybe at 2AM and then she went to the gym" --- DEFINATELY not 'minty fresh'?!?! Unless your a Caveman I suppose ;)
Maybe we should start a member poll? Minty Fresh or Musty Dusty..... I prefer clean and natural :)
Peace.
PK
SalesGuy71
08-08-13, 22:01
Loved reading this. I still don't get the "Upscale Older White Gentlemen" line with the words above it saying "I have a juicy butt." What upscale older white gentleman wants a juicy butt? And if you are looking for an upscale older white gentleman, try using correct grammar and spelling. I can deal with a typo (although with spell-check these days it's not hard to fix before posting) but "I is a gorjus gurl wid a big jucy but" is not getting me any closer to calling your number.
Am I the only one who looks at the bpage ads that say things like "back by popular demand" and think "I don't recall you being popular or in demand" or "forget the rest, I'm the best." and I think "No. No you aren't. Your reviews say otherwise." How about when an ad uses the word "upscale" and they end up being in total no-tells with the one light bulb out in the room, and it reeks of cigarettes. I think there was even one that said she was "open minded" and it actually translated to mish only, no fingers anywhere, no DFK, no GFE, and no enthusiasm. Some of these girls are as open minded as a caucasian, republican evangelical southern minister in charge of a bible camp.
Rdavis1972
08-09-13, 06:45
Loved reading this. I still don't get the "Upscale Older White Gentlemen" line with the words above it saying "I have a juicy butt." What upscale older white gentleman wants a juicy butt? And if you are looking for an upscale older white gentleman, try using correct grammar and spelling. I can deal with a typo (although with spell-check these days it's not hard to fix before posting) but "I is a gorjus gurl wid a big jucy but" is not getting me any closer to calling your number.I guess we're all just too "tenured" (some more than others) to get it. This form of writing is like the electronic form of walking around with your pants hanging off your ass. It's how this "less tenured" generation expresses their individuality. Yup, you're unique kid, just like everybody else.
Sweet Destiny
08-09-13, 16:22
Loved reading this. I still don't get the "Upscale Older White Gentlemen" line with the words above it saying "I have a juicy butt." What upscale older white gentleman wants a juicy butt? And if you are looking for an upscale older white gentleman, try using correct grammar and spelling. I can deal with a typo (although with spell-check these days it's not hard to fix before posting) but "I is a gorjus gurl wid a big jucy but" is not getting me any closer to calling your number.Actually upscale gents are closet freaks.
They act all stuck up but like the crazy stuff. Lmao.
This form of writing is like the electronic form of walking around with your pants hanging off your ass.Can I please take that line and use it? It's sheer poetry!
(For those that haven't worked their way back through the thread, he was referring to advertisers using phrases such as "I is a gorjus gurl wid a big jucy but")
Rdavis1972
08-10-13, 00:33
Actually upscale gents are closet freaks.
They act all stuck up but like the crazy stuff. Lmao.Hey lady, if you're going to come in here and hang with the boys, you're going to have to stay telling stories of some of your freakiest sessions. Be sure to change the names to protect the "innocent" however. You get to read about our horror stories so it's only fair. Hahaha
Member #4459
08-10-13, 14:17
As posted in BP advertisers thread. (I'm not attacking the OP just starting a discussion re:hygiene.)
"Here is the bad. She hates when clients don't take a shower. I'm no expert and I know that all girls taste different but I would venture to say that if she took a shower that day it was maybe at 2AM and then she went to the gym. It wasnt bad but you could tell that it wasnt minty fresh."
The dichotomy is striking to say the least. On the one hand her vag is."It wasnt bad but you could tell that it wasnt minty fresh.". So? Close? Not quite minty fresh?
OR."if she took a shower that day it was maybe at 2AM and then she went to the gym". DEFINATELY not 'minty fresh'? Unless your a Caveman I suppose.
Maybe we should start a member poll? Minty Fresh or Musty Dusty. I prefer clean and natural.
Peace.
PKLoki I can't agree with you more regarding clean and natural. Ladies it's very simple, be shower fresh and remember you can hang all the tree air fresheners you want in the Asian fish market but it's still going to smell like fish so keep the perfume above the waist. If a shower doesn't do the trick then please use a personal day. And for the ladies who rely on yesterday's or the day before's shower, TIP: it doesn't work, it's equivalent to smelling a bums morning dump inside an OTB bathroom when your drawers come off. Now go wash your damn asses please.
Fox
Rdavis1972
08-10-13, 22:53
Can I please take that line and use it? It's sheer poetry!
(For those that haven't worked their way back through the thread, he was referring to advertisers using phrases such as "I is a gorjus gurl wid a big jucy but") I'd be honored lmao
SalesGuy71
08-11-13, 08:01
Hey Destiny. Yes, kind of true. I like getting freaky too. And I love a great tight butt. But just the thought of a juicy butt prior to doing anything conjures up thoughts of something else not so pleasant. Yech!
Actually upscale gents are closet freaks.
They act all stuck up but like the crazy stuff. Lmao.
Sweet Destiny
08-12-13, 15:01
Hey Destiny. Yes, kind of true. I like getting freaky too. And I love a great tight butt. But just the thought of a juicy butt prior to doing anything conjures up thoughts of something else not so pleasant. Yech!Uh oh. LOL.
Actually upscale gents are closet freaks.
They act all stuck up but like the crazy stuff. Lmao.Thanks for helping me 'get my freak on' today!;)
That was CRAY CRAY! LOL
No seriously, that was fun! Got to do THAT again for sure;)
Peace.
PK
Sweet Destiny
08-16-13, 15:49
Thanks for helping me 'get my freak on' today.
That was CRAY CRAY! LOL
No seriously, that was fun! Got to do THAT again for sure.
Peace.
PKHell yeah we do! Gag-errrrific. Hahaha!
Anyways did you hear about the escort stalker from eccie. Name is waterboy13, well he has officially turned stalker on NR now. Seems like he is attacking us reviewed girls then when we tell him we won't see him he starts calling us names and threatening stating he called cops. He seriously said I have been arrested for this before. Lmao. Those that know me know that (knock on wood) I have NEVER been arrested for this. He even was a douche-bag enough to put my real first name in the review for people to see. Well when it is your tattoo and in your pics who wouldn't be able to find out unless you are NOT looking for it.
OYE VE THE CRAZINESS!
Sorry had to get it out.
Sweet Destiny
08-17-13, 13:15
Hey lady, if you're going to come in here and hang with the boys, you're going to have to stay telling stories of some of your freakiest sessions. Be sure to change the names to protect the "innocent" however. You get to read about our horror stories so it's only fair. HahahaI have stories for weeks! Hair pulling, spanking. The good stuff.
LordPippin
08-17-13, 20:40
Destiny, just don't mention the time I asked you to dress up like a llama ok? Lets keep that on the down low. Or the time I said I wanted to do a Liberace role play. Just don't tell those stories please?
Sweet Destiny
08-17-13, 21:46
Destiny, just don't mention the time I asked you to dress up like a llama ok? Lets keep that on the down low. Or the time I said I wanted to do a Liberace role play. Just don't tell those stories please?Lmaoooooo. That made my night!
Destiny, just don't mention the time I asked you to dress up like a llama ok? Lets keep that on the down low. Or the time I said I wanted to do a Liberace role play. Just don't tell those stories please?Alpacas have much softer fur!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpaca
Sweet Destiny
08-18-13, 03:06
Alpacas have much softer fur!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlpacaIf I could find either as a costume, I would definitely take pictures. Hahahaha
If I could find either as a costume, I would definitely take pictures. HahahahaI would DEFINATELY want to see that! Hahahhahah!
Peace
PK
I am not looking for, nor do I care for validation regarding this 'Cher' business. I am only saying that considering the transgression everyone involved has gone a bit over the top.
Did she ROB him? No! Did she OUT him? No! Did she infect or otherwise fuck up someone's cock? No!
She stood him up and that's it. Her attitude sucks but this business isn't exactly run like the Ritz or Lloyd's of London. SO THE FUCK WHAT! Jesus, guys here have been getting fucked about getting fucked for years and years, NOW all of a sudden we need to pull together as a community to right this wrong and teach her and others like her a lesson?
DAMN! There have been numerous reports of cash and dash, pimp intimidation, bait and switch, and SHIT service and NOT a fucking ONE if ya did ANYTHING about those reports!
Do I feel bad that she stood Quail up and then was indignant about it? Yes of course! Know what I'm going to do about it? I'm never going to fucking call her! End of story.
By the looks of her ad or ads over the last 6 months or so I get the idea she is NOT making a killing in this biz. There are so many more out there that offend much worse. I don't see any of you guys trying to get warrenjeffers cash back after that chick flat out ROBbED him. At least Levi10 called her to bust balls. She deserves that and more.
But a stand up for a date and a bad attitude? Wow maybe you guys don't have the experience that I thought you did. How many times has this happened to each and every one of us? I've had it happen too many times to count. And Quail has had that happen as many times (probably more) than me, why is this time so special?
Foster the good ones, treat them well and let the shit rot on the vine! Molly is now walking the stroll in Schenectady. That's Karma baby! That's all I'm saying!
Hhahahhaaha Flintstone toes!!!! Hahahah that's great!
Peace Pot and Microdot!
PK
Member #4407
08-18-13, 17:58
Did she ROB him? No! Did she OUT him? No! Did she infect or otherwise fuck up someone's cock? No!
DAMN! There have been numerous reports of cash and dash, pimp intimidation, bait and switch, and SHIT service and NOT a fucking ONE if ya did ANYTHING about those reports!
Do I feel bad that she stood Quail up and then was indignant about it? Yes of course! Know what I'm going to do about it? I'm never going to fucking call her! End of story.
By the looks of her ad or ads over the last 6 months or so I get the idea she is NOT making a killing in this biz.
But a stand up for a date and a bad attitude? Wow maybe you guys don't have the experience that I thought you did. How many times has this happened to each and every one of us? I've had it happen too many times to count.Well done Loki. I agree 100% with you. Great points. And I want to add:
What we guys so easily forget is we have the EASY side of the transaction. For all the risks that us mongers have, for the providers, multiply each by a factor of 10, plus add ten more risk-categories. As one working girl told me, EVERY provider at some point has been raped / robbed / beaten or all three at once. It's no secret many providers disappear every year. And end up in places like Gilgo Beach. How many times do providers get stood up? How many times do providers drive to an outcall with a fake address? How many times do providers get some dude showing up with less cash than necessary? And he still insists on service? Again, as one girl told me, she can't exactly go to the police when her civil liberties are abused. She can't have her driver / handler in the room with her. She is at the mercy of the random guy in her room. And he could be ANYONE. Don't you know who Jack the Ripper preyed upon?
One girl told me a story: she was asked by a "monger" to show up at his house nude for $600. She shows up, but not nude. But not only is it the wrong house, this has been an on-going prank a local teen has been doing to a neighbor. Screws over the homeowner and the provider. What happened? The police were called and the provider was taken in.
Providers are extremely vulnerable. Although it sucks to be let down by one, we have to remember the risk is infinitely more for the providers. Always.
I'm very grateful for quality providers, and every time I have a great experience, I can barely believe it. But yes, most providers suck, and not in a good way. It's the Hobby. Accept it or stop playing.
(And in specific regards to Cher: Quail, what the fuck were you thinking? Every time I accidentally click on her ad, I almost gag. She did you a fucking favor by cancelling.)
A couple if things. First I want to thank all of my fellow members of usasexguide for your support of my posting this warning / alert / negative review. For all of you who have seen my comments / posts / reviews over the years, you know that I (and many other senior and long time members, encourage participation / contribution by everyone. I have encouraged comments, posts, reviews, whether positive or negative. I have always tried my best to be honest and tell it like it is.
I posted this no show and shitty attitude about Cher, and I would do it again if this happened with ANY provider. And I hope that all of you would do the same.
NOW my point was made. I just called Cher and told her that on my end it is OVER. She did apologize for the last minute cancellation, but told me that a family matter DID arise about 30 minutes prior to our 11 am date. I accepted her apology and thanked her. I did however tell her that she should have cancelled as soon as she knew and that the conversation we just had should have happened 3 days ago.
And she offered to see me for a makeup visit and promised that my time with her would be special
A couple if things. First I want to thank all of my fellow members of usasexguide for your support of my posting this warning / alert / negative review. For all of you who have seen my comments / posts / reviews over the years, you know that I (and many other senior and long time members, encourage participation / contribution by everyone. I have encouraged comments, posts, reviews, whether positive or negative. I have always tried my best to be honest and tell it like it is.
I posted this no show and shitty attitude about Cher, and I would do it again if this happened with ANY provider. And I hope that all of you would do the same.
NOW my point was made. I just called Cher and told her that on my end it is OVER. She did apologize for the last minute cancellation, but told me that a family matter DID arise about 30 minutes prior to our 11 am date. I accepted her apology and thanked her. I did however tell her that she should have cancelled as soon as she knew and that the conversation we just had should have happened 3 days ago.
And she offered to see me for a makeup visit and promised that my time with her would be specialProviders never make up for a Bad or Cancelled Session. It's best for you to never call this Girl again. Move on and find another one.
Sweet Destiny
08-18-13, 23:53
Providers never make up for a Bad or Cancelled Session. It's best for you to never call this Girl again. Move on and find another one.Have to disagree. Not all providers are like that and I know a few of them besides myself. If we cancel we offer another time.
Have to disagree. Not all providers are like that and I know a few of them besides myself. If we cancel we offer another time.If I call a Provider I'm interested in seeing for a First Session and set up a Time, then she Cancels on me for whatever reason, I'm done with her. I never call her back to reschedule. Even if she calls me back with the reason why she cancelled on me, I'm done. A First Session Impression is very important to me.
If I call a Provider I'm interested in seeing for a First Session and set up a Time, then she Cancels on me for whatever reason, I'm done with her. I never call her back to reschedule. Even if she calls me back with the reason why she cancelled on me, I'm done. A First Session Impression is very important to me.You could easily be missing out on some super quality providers. Hey! Shit happens. It happens to everybody and can happen at ANY time.
If she calls back to cancel, she has the right attitude. She showed you a courtesy that many others would not. Then, you would NEVER call her again?
Sorry bro, we are all entitled to our opinions and methods. I think you make a mistake in that scenario.
Now, a no-call no-show situation ABSOLUTELY calls for a DNS response. But there are several girls I am a big fan of and would have never seen if I followed your proceedure. I am happy to say, I did call them at another time and it was worth the trouble, to be sure.
Peace.
Pot.
And Microdot!
PK
269546
Alpacas have much softer fur!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlpacaOH BABY! Here is the pics I took last night with my girl in a soft Alpaca costume! HUMMANA HUMMANA HUMMANA HUMMANA HUMMANA!
;)
Peace.
PK
Rdavis1972
08-19-13, 14:26
269546
OH BABY! Here is the pics I took last night with my girl in a soft Alpaca costume! HUMMANA HUMMANA HUMMANA HUMMANA HUMMANA!
Peace.
PKI'm throwing the BS flag on that play! That's clearly a real Alpaca. Costume my ass :cool:
If I call a Provider I'm interested in seeing for a First Session and set up a Time, then she Cancels on me for whatever reason, I'm done with her. I never call her back to reschedule. Even if she calls me back with the reason why she cancelled on me, I'm done. A First Session Impression is very important to me.If a provider contacts me to cancel or discusses the nature of a session that doesn't happen for any number of valid reasons, that's not a red flag, that's a good sign.
It's the providers that say nothing when they run late and end up no-shows to a scheduled meeting that piss me off. In 10 years I've never met a Provider with excellent customer service skills that absolutely suck at their job. One usually, and in my case nearly always, informs towards what can be expected with the other.
Even in Albany, these forums are loaded with review after review that link performance to attitude and customer service. I've never read a review that claimed a provider had a great attitude, or was very engaged and honest in communication for a scheduled session, and the session was completely terrible.
You could easily be missing out on some super quality providers. Hey! Shit happens. It happens to everybody and can happen at ANY time.
If she calls back to cancel, she has the right attitude. She showed you a courtesy that many others would not. Then, you would NEVER call her again?
Sorry bro, we are all entitled to our opinions and methods. I think you make a mistake in that scenario.
Now, a no-call no-show situation ABSOLUTELY calls for a DNS response. But there are several girls I am a big fan of and would have never seen if I followed your proceedure. I am happy to say, I did call them at another time and it was worth the trouble, to be sure.
Peace.
Pot.
And Microdot!
PKYou are 100 percent correct. I agree with you. It's a pet peeve of mine about cancelling a First Session. I've had a First Session with a few Providers cancel out on me. Here's one story of what happened; I made an appointment with a Provider and things looked good. Then I call about an hour before the Session to confirm and she doesn't pick up the phone. I just get her voicemail. No call back or even a text. Next day she calls me to try to reschedule another appointment. I don't even answer my phone. I let it go to my voicemail. I never call her back again. I write her number on my "Do Not Call List." Even if she's possibly Great Provider, I'll never know cause I will never call her for a Session.
LordPippin
08-23-13, 22:19
What is with Veronica's ad?
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/indulge-in-exceptional-24/12568946
Now before I go any further, I have seen Veronica and she is super freakin amazing! However, what's with the positioning of the "blur" in some of her pics? Is her mouth that recognizable?"Hmm geee I don't recognize you by your eyes or your nose *gets a DFK* OMG its you Veronica! I didn't recognize you until I got that kiss!"
Again, she is a super provider, I just can't help myself but poke fun.
Board,
After reading the continuing reports on bad or disappointing providers, I'd like to make a radical suggestion. Now I do most of my mongering in Asia. And there, things work this way and they work well. Seeing the fast food workers picket the other day for increased minimum wage made me think that as a group, we might consider the following.
Realizing that providers don't want to discuss things on the phone (ok). When meeting up with one, before payment ensues, having the full discussion about do's and don'ts. Or if she looks nothing like her pictures. Leave and note that you will be posting this information online for all to see (tell her you are a member of the better business bureau). And then. The BIG thing. Tell her she will be paid at the END of the session. And if she puts up a fuss, tell her,"like any other service, you get paid at the end". That is the usual routine for lots of things in our society, you get the service THEN you pay. Now, if many of the users of these providers did that. We might start a trend. Yes, the providers think that the client may run off without paying. But why should any of us put our "trust" that the provider will give the agreed upon service rather than them trusting the client to pay at the end.First, this is NOT McDonalds or Subway (which BTW require payment UPFRONT) There IS a HUGE degree of trust that needs to be involved on both sides before, during, and after the session. But the 'Money Trust' part is ENTIRELY different. In a High class meeting, this is a different dynamic than a street walker or BP type set-up. If you call a high class service, you are not concerned with a cash and dash or rip-off artist so that whole scenario plays differently from the start. OR, if you have a good relationship with a provider, the payment part may be held off until after the deeds are done. But two strangers in a room is a completely different story.
I understand that sometimes the little head takes over. You made the contact, made the call, made the drive, etc. Now you will settle for disappointing service (or even worse, a smelly provider) that doesn't meet your expectations. But, like a bad restaurant (read El-Kins here) , drive them out of business by making them give the service or you walk.
Just a suggestion. Maybe you guys will flame me about it. But honestly, in other countries, this stuff is discussed up front (the do's and don'ts) and the payment provided at the end of the service.
GGAs Far as other countries and discussing it before payment? Again, I must disagree. This is NOT another country. In the USA, for the most part, play for pay is NOT legal. And discussing it can get you arrested. All one has to do is agree to a sex act for money and you can be arrested. No money need change hands, only agreeing to take money or pay money for sex is enough. So talking about it before both parties are sure of the other is VERY risky.
We live in a retardedly puritan society where many laws are based upon ancient religous beliefs. Other countries without our pilgrim / puritan backgrounds are far more progressive when it comes to sexworkers. Unfortunately, we don't live there, we live here and its not legal. So we do what we must.
As far as poor service or Bait and switch goes? YES we have to learn to think with the big head and walk when it is necessary! Too many guys will settle for the wrong provider which just encourages bad service and behavior. Like any other business, we must come together and vote with our wallets. That is the only way we can improve the service we recieve or expect.
Peace.
PK
Member #4459
09-02-13, 15:53
I just finished reading Loki's responses and took particular notice to his response and I quote "In the USA, for the most part, play for pay is NOT legal. And discussing it can get you arrested. All one has to do is agree to a sex act for money and you can be arrested. No money need change hands, only agreeing to take money or pay money for sex is enough. So talking about it before both parties are sure of the other is VERY risky."
This set off a red flag in my head regarding texting providers, an act which many (not all) utilize in this modern day BUT how vulnerable are we in doing this? I understand the risks involved in the hobby but is texting really a smart thing to be doing? Are we essentially tapping our own phones by laying out our words in an attempt to participate in an illegal act?
Taking the easy or 'convenient' route all too often can come back to bite you in the ass and I personally text because it's less invasive, or so I thought. I've read reviews from rookies and senior members alike who mention texting providers. Are we putting ourselves at greater risk in an already risky enough biz?
Fox.
If this girl makes things right with Quail I'll be the first to engage with her a friendly game of hide the salami. I told her this upfront. Make it right with him and I'll give her business. It sounds like she's on the right track. Perhaps a call is in order to her?
L10.
A couple if things. First I want to thank all of my fellow members of usasexguide for your support of my posting this warning / alert / negative review. For all of you who have seen my comments / posts / reviews over the years, you know that I (and many other senior and long time members, encourage participation / contribution by everyone. I have encouraged comments, posts, reviews, whether positive or negative. I have always tried my best to be honest and tell it like it is.
I posted this no show and shitty attitude about Cher, and I would do it again if this happened with ANY provider. And I hope that all of you would do the same.
NOW my point was made. I just called Cher and told her that on my end it is OVER. She did apologize for the last minute cancellation, but told me that a family matter DID arise about 30 minutes prior to our 11 am date. I accepted her apology and thanked her. I did however tell her that she should have cancelled as soon as she knew and that the conversation we just had should have happened 3 days ago.
And she offered to see me for a makeup visit and promised that my time with her would be special
If this girl makes things right with Quail I'll be the first to engage with her a friendly game of hide the salami. I told her this upfront. Make it right with him and I'll give her business. It sounds like she's on the right track. Perhaps a call is in order to her?
L10.Thanks Levi 10. I DID have a visit with Cher last week and reviewed her in the general reports section. She has pictures and reviews on Naughty Reviews. And she can send you more pictures if requested. Cher is very competent and dies all she can to please her client. She is a mature woman, early 49s, nice tits and ass, very good BBBJ and knows how to use her body.
I don't know how many times I go through this. Maybe 10-15 times per week. Between here and another site, I get at least that many requests from unknown members for any number of things.
Phone numbers for my ATF or soon to be ATF's;). Where can I find her? What is her address? Can I use you as a reference? I tried to call her but she won't pick up, do YOU know how I can get in touch with her. Can YOU call her for me and help me set up a date?
HOLY FUCKIN' SHIT!
How do half of these nit-wits get their shoes on in the morning? Do they still live at home and let Mommy pick-out their clothes and schedule dentist appointments? It is BEYOND reasonable to think ANYONE would do this shit for them ESPECIALLY when many don't even have a single post or valid report.
For the record: 'WE WERE ALL NEW HERE ONCE!". And we figured it out! We are not here to hold your fucking hand, pick out an ad for you, drive you over, make the deal, and / or wipe your ass when it's done! Grow some fucking sack and 'get 'er done' dude'!
New tagline- 'Getting laid- so easy a caveman could do it! '
Sorry, but lately it has gotten almost bizarre!
Peace.
PK
WHAT THE FUCK! Am I the only one who is beyond annoyed with the retarded backpage ads that say 'Back, by popular demand" or 'NEW girl, just arrived" or how about 'Last Day, Leaving Tomorrow"?
Holy shit! Sorry to the Ladies who run their shit properly (Kendra, Destiny, Victoria, Tara, etc)
This is for the chicks on Backpage who have failed to ' buy a clue'- BUT NOBODY is demanding you return. Shit I bet nobody knew you left, or that you ever arrived in the first place!
Or the 'new girl' who has been running the same ad since fucking March! YOU ARE NOT NEW ANYMORE. Change your fucking ad!
What is totally worse is that I ACTUALLY CLICK on those ads DAY AFTER DAY! I don't know why, maybe it is just a Pavlovian response? But I do it!;)
It has just been burning a hole in my brain this week and I needed to vent!
Maybe this thread will become my small, lonely, spot to talk to myself- but at least it won't clog up the review threads! LOL.
Peace.
PK
Great rant! I had to chime in because I too get tired of scrolling through the BP ads. Particularly on my phone.
WHAT THE FUCK! Am I the only one who is beyond annoyed with the retarded backpage ads that say 'Back, by popular demand" or 'NEW girl, just arrived" or how about 'Last Day, Leaving Tomorrow"?
Holy shit! Sorry to the Ladies who run their shit properly (Kendra, Destiny, Victoria, Tara, etc)
This is for the chicks on Backpage who have failed to ' buy a clue'- BUT NOBODY is demanding you return. Shit I bet nobody knew you left, or that you ever arrived in the first place!
Or the 'new girl' who has been running the same ad since fucking March! YOU ARE NOT NEW ANYMORE. Change your fucking ad!
What is totally worse is that I ACTUALLY CLICK on those ads DAY AFTER DAY! I don't know why, maybe it is just a Pavlovian response? But I do it.
It has just been burning a hole in my brain this week and I needed to vent!
Maybe this thread will become my small, lonely, spot to talk to myself- but at least it won't clog up the review threads! LOL.
Peace.
PK
Great rant! I had to chime in because I too get tired of scrolling through the BP ads. Particularly on my phone.Throw in the ones that say "hot blonde" and then show pictures of a brunette, or ones that say latina or asian and show a black woman.
Or the ones that forget to crop out the name of the website they stole the pics from. Or the ones that say 24/7 and you call and they text you back saying not available until after 9pm, or until the weekend. Or they list Albany as their location and they are really in Schenectady. Or 90 miles away in Gloversville! BP was better when CL was active, now all the ads are mixed together into one soup and and you'll really have to dig to find something good.
Member #4459
10-05-13, 12:02
Throw in the ones that say "hot blonde" and then show pictures of a brunette, or ones that say latina or asian and show a black woman.
Or the ones that forget to crop out the name of the website they stole the pics from. Or the ones that say 24/7 and you call and they text you back saying not available until after 9pm, or until the weekend. Or they list Albany as their location and they are really in Schenectady. Or 90 miles away in Gloversville! BP was better when CL was active, now all the ads are mixed together into one soup and and you'll really have to dig to find something good.Anyone ever meet the girls who work out of the 'Colony' area or taken advantage of the money back guarantees if they aren't the girl in the pics? Hahaha
Anyone ever meet the girls who work out of the 'Colony' area or taken advantage of the money back guarantees if they aren't the girl in the pics? HahahaHAHAHA! Yeah, money back guarantee! Translated 'You are free to run as fast as possible in the OTHER direction, BEFORE you hand over the cash!" SMH.
;)
Peace.
PK
All true, all true!
Just as true as every AMP having a Grand Opening ----- every day----- for the past year!
WHAT THE FUCK! Am I the only one who is beyond annoyed with the retarded backpage ads that say 'Back, by popular demand" or 'NEW girl, just arrived" or how about 'Last Day, Leaving Tomorrow"?
Holy shit! Sorry to the Ladies who run their shit properly (Kendra, Destiny, Victoria, Tara, etc)
This is for the chicks on Backpage who have failed to ' buy a clue'- BUT NOBODY is demanding you return. Shit I bet nobody knew you left, or that you ever arrived in the first place!
Or the 'new girl' who has been running the same ad since fucking March! YOU ARE NOT NEW ANYMORE. Change your fucking ad!
What is totally worse is that I ACTUALLY CLICK on those ads DAY AFTER DAY! I don't know why, maybe it is just a Pavlovian response? But I do it.
It has just been burning a hole in my brain this week and I needed to vent!
Maybe this thread will become my small, lonely, spot to talk to myself- but at least it won't clog up the review threads! LOL.
Peace.
PKSince when does anyone believe advertising? The operative mode is "Buyer Beware", but I do get a kick out of what some of the advertisers think we'll buy. Will someone tell me what a NEW girl is?
C
Since when does anyone believe advertising? The operative mode is "Buyer Beware", but I do get a kick out of what some of the advertisers think we'll buy. Will someone tell me what a NEW girl is?
CPerhaps the idea of a 'Rant' is lost upon you?!?!?! Nobody is saying 'We are upset because we believed these 'marketing ploys' ".... I was ranting 'BECAUSE' of THESE MARKETING PLOYS!
Some of these 'leaders' or 'titles' are just fucking retarded! YEAH, I SAID RETARDED!!! Not so PC here in the R&R section on a SHMB!!!! LOL ;)
Seriously, half of the stuff is just SOOOO over the top it isn't even funny, OR..... Maybe it is even MORE hilarious!
Such as this one '
""PERFESSIONAL * Eronic * And Loveable * CRYSTAL; [incall&out}.20"
HOLY SHIT! I needs me some perfessional Lovin'.... I needs me some 'eronic' sensuality...... I needs me some FUCKING SPELLCHECK!!!! OMFG!!!! :D
I could go on like this all goddamn day!!!
Here is another- 'Indulge In Realness and true Beauty' What the fuck is 'realness'?!?! And how exactly to I indulge in it?
Who wrote this shit Mike Tyson? DAMN!
Like shooting fish in a barrel I say!
Peace.
PK
Perhaps the idea of a 'Rant' is lost upon you? Nobody is saying 'We are upset because we believed these 'marketing ploys' ". I was ranting 'BECAUSE' of THESE MARKETING PLOYS!
Some of these 'leaders' or 'titles' are just fucking retarded! YEAH, I SAID RETARDED! Not so PC here in the R&R section on a SHMB! LOL.
Seriously, half of the stuff is just SOOOO over the top it isn't even funny, OR. Maybe it is even MORE hilarious!
Such as this one '
""PERFESSIONAL * Eronic * And Loveable * CRYSTAL; [incall&out}.20"
HOLY SHIT! I needs me some perfessional Lovin'. I needs me some 'eronic' sensuality. I needs me some FUCKING SPELLCHECK! OMFG! .
I could go on like this all goddamn day!
Here is another- 'Indulge In Realness and true Beauty' What the fuck is 'realness'? And how exactly to I indulge in it?
Who wrote this shit Mike Tyson? DAMN!
Like shooting fish in a barrel I say!
Peace.
PKFound this offer too good to resist: ". Let me endure you with my sweetness."
So good to feel desired.
C
Found this offer too good to resist: ". Let me endure you with my sweetness."
So good to feel desired.
CAWESOME!
Peace.
PK
Member #4459
10-11-13, 16:01
"Why choose one girl when you can have 10 hot NUDE ones and 1 ugly one."
I feel bad I might have to stop by this place and give the poor ugly duckling a $5 bill for a dance HAHAHA
Who am I Eddie Lewis? Well, for starters I am a person that has an opinion and will express it any time I want to. THAT'S WHO I AM! I'm also not a guy that hides behind a keyboard, any time you want me to tell you in person, just let me know where and I'll be happy to meet up with you to do just that.
I am sick and tired of pricks like you that give the rest of us a bad name. Is it so hard to just tell the girl the truth? Did you really have to be a coward? When some of us lie, they think we're ALL liars and then we have to jump through more hoops to get the pussy.
Yes, if you do this again I will call you out on it. My hope is you realize you screwed up and won't do it again. Whether some of them lie or not is irrelevant. It's called taking the high road and being a decent human being, not a lying scumbag.
EddieLewis
11-09-13, 06:39
Dude. Back off on the gin and tonics for a minute!!
Your opinion is yours, how you would have handled it. Mine is mine. In my opinion, I handled it the way I saw best.
Tell me in person? Are you serious right now? You want to get into a confrontation over this? Bro, you better go get some of that pussy you're tlaking about here to calm your nerves.
And you're just the type who will see any gal and regardless, write a stellar review. To me, man, that's dishonesty. That's not taking the high road. You give us gents who are looking for a nice gal misleading info! All I did was voice my complete honest opinion and you're ready to meet behind the church after school to throw down. Calm the fuck down bro. Lighten the hell up!! The war is over, and Elvis is dead!!
No you may go jump through a hoop!!
Good day bro!! Love you man!!
Who am I Eddie Lewis? Well, for starters I am a person that has an opinion and will express it any time I want to. THAT'S WHO I AM! I'm also not a guy that hides behind a keyboard, any time you want me to tell you in person, just let me know where and I'll be happy to meet up with you to do just that.
I am sick and tired of pricks like you that give the rest of us a bad name. Is it so hard to just tell the girl the truth? Did you really have to be a coward? When some of us lie, they think we're ALL liars and then we have to jump through more hoops to get the pussy.
Yes, if you do this again I will call you out on it. My hope is you realize you screwed up and won't do it again. Whether some of them lie or not is irrelevant. It's called taking the high road and being a decent human being, not a lying scumbag.
Nice projection, well done, however it shows a lack of research before hitting those keys. I've gotten in more than one confrontation here for writing a "bad review" on a girl other guys liked and I've also readily reported no shows and theft. I don't remember ever suggesting a throwdown either, I was merely diffusing the "dude you're just a tough guy because you can hide behind a keyboard" argument that I always get. Now, perhaps you would like to show me what review I've written that had misleading info? Since I have reviewed Brooke, and you haven't seen her, I guess that won't work will it? Don't have time for this? Then don't talk shit. I called you out on dishonesty you admitted to. You now have to prove dishonesty that you have accused me of with no proof.
I have no problem with the fact that you thought she didn't look good and had to leave, I think we've all done that. I just think that when we lie to girls like that it hurts all of us and I think there are plenty of guys that agree with me on that, some don't I'm sure but I'm sure plenty do.
Now, show me my dishonest reviews please. I'll wait.
Your move Ace.
Dude. Back off on the gin and tonics for a minute!!
Your opinion is yours, how you would have handled it. Mine is mine. In my opinion, I handled it the way I saw best.
Tell me in person? Are you serious right now? You want to get into a confrontation over this? Bro, you better go get some of that pussy you're tlaking about here to calm your nerves.
And you're just the type who will see any gal and regardless, write a stellar review. To me, man, that's dishonesty. That's not taking the high road. You give us gents who are looking for a nice gal misleading info! All I did was voice my complete honest opinion and you're ready to meet behind the church after school to throw down. Calm the fuck down bro. Lighten the hell up!! The war is over, and Elvis is dead!!
No you may go jump through a hoop!!
Good day bro!! Love you man!!
EddieLewis
11-09-13, 10:26
Time for that group hug! .
Nice projection, well done, however it shows a lack of research before hitting those keys. I've gotten in more than one confrontation here for writing a "bad review" on a girl other guys liked and I've also readily reported no shows and theft. I don't remember ever suggesting a throwdown either, I was merely diffusing the "dude you're just a tough guy because you can hide behind a keyboard" argument that I always get. Now, perhaps you would like to show me what review I've written that had misleading info? Since I have reviewed Brooke, and you haven't seen her, I guess that won't work will it? Don't have time for this? Then don't talk shit. I called you out on dishonesty you admitted to. You now have to prove dishonesty that you have accused me of with no proof.
I have no problem with the fact that you thought she didn't look good and had to leave, I think we've all done that. I just think that when we lie to girls like that it hurts all of us and I think there are plenty of guys that agree with me on that, some don't I'm sure but I'm sure plenty do.
Now, show me my dishonest reviews please. I'll wait.
Your move Ace.
In my opinion, I handled it the way I saw best.Eddie,
My two cents on the way you handled it is that you didn't need to leave her high and dry. I agree with Msanders in that type of behavior just hurts all of us.
I believe both guys and girls have the right to lie to get someone out of and away from their car / apt / room. That's a safety issue and takes precedent over being nice. After that, you could have called her and let her know you weren't coming back.
Time for that group hug! .I don't want to get embroiled in some big dispute but am going to throw in my 2 cents against my better judgement and for what it is worth.
First of all, I am sure this is not the first time a provider has been stood up so let's keep it in perspective. And we all know that providers can lie, cheat, scam etc. And many of their clients rape, beat and rip them off. Truly, it is an ugly, sordid business.
Having said that, however, I know I have adopted a personal code of conduct in over 25 years of hobbying. Basically I treat a provider as I would treat myself until the provider proves themselves to be untrustworthy. I might not like a situation, I might decide to back out at the last minute, walk away, etc. But if the provider has been straight with me then I will do them the courtesy of informing them that I will not participate. It might be a text I send down the road, a call or a direct communication to their face but it really doesn't matter. If they were willing to risk meeting me and treated me with decency then I am not going to do anything but treat them with professional respect no matter what their looks, condition, etc.
If a provider lies, cheats, bullshits, etc. Then I have no qualms about what might occur afterwards. I have zero tolerance in that situation.
In the case of Brooke, I have not read any review in which there was any indication that she was anything other than straightforward and professional with the reviewer and that was the case when I saw her as well. I wasn't there when EddieLewis and Brooke were together (thankfully! LOL) so maybe there was something more that happened that wasn't mentioned. But as the scenario was presented I do question why someone wouldn't have treated her with perhaps a bit more courtesy. A simple text would probably have sufficed.
I cannot tell EddieLewis what to do nor anyone else. As Eddie stated, to each his own. I can only share the perspective I take in these matters and I hope it can be taken in the spirit of some self-reflection and not an attack.
Be safe.
EddieLewis
11-09-13, 16:45
Like you said. We need a group hug!!
I don't want to get embroiled in some big dispute but am going to throw in my 2 cents against my better judgement and for what it is worth.
Like I said..... group hug!!
First of all, I am sure this is not the first time a provider has been stood up so let's keep it in perspective. And we all know that providers can lie, cheat, scam etc. And many of their clients rape, beat and rip them off. Truly, it is an ugly, sordid business.
Having said that, however, I know I have adopted a personal code of conduct in over 25 years of hobbying. Basically I treat a provider as I would treat myself until the provider proves themselves to be untrustworthy. I might not like a situation, I might decide to back out at the last minute, walk away, etc. But if the provider has been straight with me then I will do them the courtesy of informing them that I will not participate. It might be a text I send down the road, a call or a direct communication to their face but it really doesn't matter. If they were willing to risk meeting me and treated me with decency then I am not going to do anything but treat them with professional respect no matter what their looks, condition, etc.
If a provider lies, cheats, bullshits, etc. Then I have no qualms about what might occur afterwards. I have zero tolerance in that situation.
In the case of Brooke, I have not read any review in which there was any indication that she was anything other than straightforward and professional with the reviewer and that was the case when I saw her as well. I wasn't there when EddieLewis and Brooke were together (thankfully! LOL) so maybe there was something more that happened that wasn't mentioned. But as the scenario was presented I do question why someone wouldn't have treated her with perhaps a bit more courtesy. A simple text would probably have sufficed.
I cannot tell EddieLewis what to do nor anyone else. As Eddie stated, to each his own. I can only share the perspective I take in these matters and I hope it can be taken in the spirit of some self-reflection and not an attack.
Be safe.
First off, I must say it is good to see others here who have a 'moral compass' or at least a semblance of one!
Everybody plays and parties in their own way, I would never begrudge a fellow monger his fun. You like a feather duster up the wazoo while she whistles Dixie as you cum in cola can? :eek: More power to ya boys! You treat a girl as a throwaway cum-dumpster? Or less than a person? Yeah... I'm going to have a BIG problem with that.
Is that a threat? NO. Do I want to meet you 'up on the hill afterschool' ?.... NO Do I want to share information with you? NO!!!!
Plain and simple, the shit you pull reflects on us ALL. If you disagree with me, that is fine.... BUT, Remember, we project as much of our past history with others upon them, as they do on us. If you think it is ok to do that to her because of what other girls do to other guys, that is bad logic and flawed reasoning. Now, to suggest it is ok to pull that shit on a girl....{who DID NOTHING WRONG- other than not meet YOUR standards (which is a ridicules statement BTW)}. Is a total dick move bro. A text, a call, a simple 'thanks but not today' is all you needed to do. What the fuck is so hard to understand about that?!!?
The reason I asked what time this went down is that I had a tight window of opportunity yesterday and was trying to set-up with Brooke and I got hosed because somebody else was working the time slot just before me and screwed the whole operation for me. That was between 2-3 pm, so obviously not you or your fault.... Or really anybody's fault, sometimes it is just how the ball bounces...I have been doing it long enough to know this is how it goes and I don't get all wound up over it..... The point I'm trying to make is that SHE may have had a PAYING client who got 'parked' or dissed while she was WAITING for YOU....FUCK DUDE! Girls have to deal with no shows all the time, but to show up- make a new meet (in person). And then stiff the new / second session. May well have COST her $ And that is just not right.... You could have texted her from the end of the street, end of story.
Now..., for what it is worth, you should know I hate to 'white knight' for anyone!!! So for the record, I am not doing so now.... I am railing against the 'principle' of what you did and how it was handled, nothing more. You don't like the way she looked? I can dig that! She certainly has a 'goth-chic' appearance that may be more attractive in a dark room LOL :) . But DAMN she can suck a dick!! BUT, in the harsh light of day she didn't pass your litmus test- no worries! But just SAY SO. In any way, shape or form- OTHER than no show / stiff.
I am not looking for an apology (if you did I'd call you a fag ;) ) but to take a strong position on action like this is churlish and obtuse. When we have conversations regarding 'remember 'so and so'? Whatever happened to this chick or that one? THIS is the type of shit that pushes girls out of the biz. That turns them bitter and changes the attitude for the next guy on the wire. Food for thought.
Peace.
PK.
EddieLewis
11-09-13, 21:05
WOW!! Looks like I may have touched a nerve or two here. First off, FUCK YOU LOKI PK AND YOUR HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!
You tried real hard to DIS me on another site, eccie.net and failed miserably on that attempt. You wish to play the word game with someone who knows how to do just that, simply let me know.
This game is just that, a game. You win some, you lose some. You get angry because I voice an opinion on a lady that you find attractive? You feel the need to rip me apart publicly because I disagree with your taste in women? You talk about morals yet you are paying for pussy likely because you can't find it anywhere else for free. You talk about treating a gal like shit or not. What the hell do you think you are doing?! You go on and on about these gals like they are a piece of meat, yet you call me out implying that I treat them like a piece of meat, less than human. DUDE. Please.
Is it that I stood in the way of your 2-3 pm action or that I spoke honestly about your latest trophy? For what its worth, I've received many PM's on my willing to speak the truth, and tell the real story about a gal. You speak about principals? Do you have any idea what that means?
For what it's worth, I am Eddie Fucking Lewis, yea, that's right. I am a human, probably more than you will ever know or at least be. I am the one you tried real hard to ripp apart on that other piece of shit site, saying I was cop, or the same as FranklinPierce. Basically, you tried to diss my character over there and are trying the same here. For that, I say again, FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE THE FUCK IN ON!
Back the fuck off asshole, and watch who you try to get into it with! Go ahead, try to figure out who I am and what IP address I use.
Do me and many others a favor, shut the fuck up and get the hell off your high fucking horse!
All that aside, I love you man!
I give to you, your 2-3 pm time slot with Brooke!!
FUCKING ASSHOLE! YEA, THAT'S RIGHT, YOU HEARD ME!!
Have a shitty night you fucking piece of shit!! With all due respect of course! :
First off, I must say it is good to see others here who have a 'moral compass' or at least a semblance of one!
Everybody plays and parties in their own way, I would never begrudge a fellow monger his fun. You like a feather duster up the wazoo while she whistles Dixie as you cum in cola can? :eek: More power to ya boys! You treat a girl as a throwaway cum-dumpster? Or less than a person? Yeah... I'm going to have a BIG problem with that.
Is that a threat? NO. Do I want to meet you 'up on the hill afterschool' ?.... NO Do I want to share information with you? NO!!!!
Plain and simple, the shit you pull reflects on us ALL. If you disagree with me, that is fine.... BUT, Remember, we project as much of our past history with others upon them, as they do on us. If you think it is ok to do that to her because of what other girls do to other guys, that is bad logic and flawed reasoning. Now, to suggest it is ok to pull that shit on a girl....{who DID NOTHING WRONG- other than not meet YOUR standards (which is a ridicules statement BTW)}. Is a total dick move bro. A text, a call, a simple 'thanks but not today' is all you needed to do. What the fuck is so hard to understand about that?!!?
The reason I asked what time this went down is that I had a tight window of opportunity yesterday and was trying to set-up with Brooke and I got hosed because somebody else was working the time slot just before me and screwed the whole operation for me. That was between 2-3 pm, so obviously not you or your fault.... Or really anybody's fault, sometimes it is just how the ball bounces...I have been doing it long enough to know this is how it goes and I don't get all wound up over it..... The point I'm trying to make is that SHE may have had a PAYING client who got 'parked' or dissed while she was WAITING for YOU....FUCK DUDE! Girls have to deal with no shows all the time, but to show up- make a new meet (in person). And then stiff the new / second session. May well have COST her $ And that is just not right.... You could have texted her from the end of the street, end of story.
Now..., for what it is worth, you should know I hate to 'white knight' for anyone!!! So for the record, I am not doing so now.... I am railing against the 'principle' of what you did and how it was handled, nothing more. You don't like the way she looked? I can dig that! She certainly has a 'goth-chic' appearance that may be more attractive in a dark room LOL :) . But DAMN she can suck a dick!! BUT, in the harsh light of day she didn't pass your litmus test- no worries! But just SAY SO. In any way, shape or form- OTHER than no show / stiff.
I am not looking for an apology (if you did I'd call you a fag ;) ) but to take a strong position on action like this is churlish and obtuse. When we have conversations regarding 'remember 'so and so'? Whatever happened to this chick or that one? THIS is the type of shit that pushes girls out of the biz. That turns them bitter and changes the attitude for the next guy on the wire. Food for thought.
Peace.
PK.
If the mods don't ban you, not only will I be shocked but extremely dissapointed. You are quite a piece of work and its guys like you that give the rest of us a bad name. Go ahead and tell me what a piece of shit I am and blah blah blah. Your opinion means nothing to me.
WOW!! Looks like I may have touched a nerve or two here. First off, FUCK YOU LOKI PK AND YOUR HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!
You tried real hard to DIS me on another site, eccie.net and failed miserably on that attempt. You wish to play the word game with someone who knows how to do just that, simply let me know.
This game is just that, a game. You win some, you lose some. You get angry because I voice an opinion on a lady that you find attractive? You feel the need to rip me apart publicly because I disagree with your taste in women? You talk about morals yet you are paying for pussy likely because you can't find it anywhere else for free. You talk about treating a gal like shit or not. What the hell do you think you are doing?! You go on and on about these gals like they are a piece of meat, yet you call me out implying that I treat them like a piece of meat, less than human. DUDE. Please.
Is it that I stood in the way of your 2-3 pm action or that I spoke honestly about your latest trophy? For what its worth, I've received many PM's on my willing to speak the truth, and tell the real story about a gal. You speak about principals? Do you have any idea what that means?
For what it's worth, I am Eddie Fucking Lewis, yea, that's right. I am a human, probably more than you will ever know or at least be. I am the one you tried real hard to ripp apart on that other piece of shit site, saying I was cop, or the same as FranklinPierce. Basically, you tried to diss my character over there and are trying the same here. For that, I say again, FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE THE FUCK IN ON!
Back the fuck off asshole, and watch who you try to get into it with! Go ahead, try to figure out who I am and what IP address I use.
Do me and many others a favor, shut the fuck up and get the hell off your high fucking horse!
All that aside, I love you man!
I give to you, your 2-3 pm time slot with Brooke!!
FUCKING ASSHOLE! YEA, THAT'S RIGHT, YOU HEARD ME!!
Have a shitty night you fucking piece of shit!! With all due respect of course! :
if the mods don't ban you, not only will i be shocked but extremely dissapointed. you are quite a piece of work and its guys like you that give the rest of us a bad name. go ahead and tell me what a piece of shit i am and blah blah blah. your opinion means nothing to me.loki said it right in the backpage thread; "meet me in rants and raves and i'll tell you the rest of what i think."
threads like this were designed for you guys to call each other names and work this kind of shit out and not pollute the review threads. some rules still apply, no threats, no revealing personal info, no std allegations or arrest reports, as always nothing about **** people.
you may however call somebody a fuckwad, douchebag, cocksucking nazi faggot if you want. though you can't call them a nigger, spick, kike, jap (but jap. is ok if they are japanese just like aa is ok if they are african american) cracker, and if they are actually gay you can't call them a faggot. we have no time for hate speech on the forum.
families are off limits, though i have in the past allowed guys to say that they enjoyed fucking somebodies sister (if it turns out the sister is dead or a nun though an apology, a serious apology not a bullshit one, must be immediately proffered)
these threads exist for this kind of shit. if this sort of thing bunches your panties (not aimed at you msanders i'm just hijacking your post for a psa) give this thread a skip in the future.
flame on ladies,
a2
ps i will admit i prefer seeing more originality than this;
have a shitty night you fucking piece of shit!you have the entire english language at your disposal and that was the best you could do?
WOW!! Looks like I may have touched a nerve or two here. First off, FUCK YOU LOKI PK AND YOUR HORSE YOU RODE IN ON!:Someone touched a nerve somewhere, THAT's for sure LOL- I'm all in disarray, oooohh!
You get angry because I voice an opinion on a lady that you find attractive? You feel the need to rip me apart publicly because I disagree with your taste in women?:I didn't RIP you apart publicly, but it sure does sound like you need a WHAAA-mmm-bulance.
I.
is it that I stood in the way of your 2-3 pm action or that I spoke honestly about your latest trophy? For what its worth, I've received many PM's on my willing to speak the truth, and tell the real story about a gal. You speak about principals? Do you have any idea what that means?:Trophy! Hardly! You somehow got that she is my new ATF from a single visit / report? Where the FUCK did I say that? Yes she gives good head, and I'll go back for more= so far, that's all I can say or have said. And why is it always the 'many PM's ' yada yada yada? Whatev's!
FUCKING ASSHOLE! YEA, THAT'S RIGHT, YOU HEARD ME!!
Have a shitty night you fucking piece of shit!! With all due respect of course! :I just don't think I'll sleep well knowing how irate you are with my tart assessment of your actions. Instead of just saying 'perhaps I could have handled it better'- you go off like a devil in church. HAHAHA touched a nerve indeed- like a 12 yr old whose Mom found his porn stash! So with all due respect to you 'right honorable gentlemen'.
-"I would like to direct this to the distinguished members of the panel: You lousy cork-soakers. You have violated my farging rights. Dis somanumbatching country was founded so that the liberties of common patriotic citizens like me could not be taken away by a bunch of fargin iceholes... Like yourselves!
Peace.
PK.
Rdavis1972
11-10-13, 08:29
loki said it right in the backpage thread; "meet me in rants and raves and i'll tell you the rest of what i think."
threads like this were designed for you guys to call each other names and work this kind of shit out and not pollute the review threads. some rules still apply, no threats, no revealing personal info, no std allegations or arrest reports, as always nothing about **** people.
you may however call somebody a fuckwad, douchebag, cocksucking nazi faggot if you want. though you can't call them a nigger, spick, kike, jap (but jap. is ok if they are japanese just like aa is ok if they are african american) cracker, and if they are actually gay you can't call them a faggot. we have no time for hate speech on the forum.
families are off limits, though i have in the past allowed guys to say that they enjoyed fucking somebodies sister (if it turns out the sister is dead or a nun though an apology, a serious apology not a bullshit one, must be immediately proffered)
these threads exist for this kind of shit. if this sort of thing bunches your panties (not aimed at you msanders i'm just hijacking your post for a psa) give this thread a skip in the future.
flame on ladies,
a2
ps i will admit i prefer seeing more originality than this;
you have the entire english language at your disposal and that was the best you could do?to the point with more than just a bit of humor (funny shit a2) injected. this is exactly why this thread was started, so you can call a douch a douch without getting bounced.
Member #4459
11-10-13, 15:22
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/touched-by-an-angel-in-calls-rnret-try-the-very-best-vetsspec-weekend45-and-75-off-44/5108362
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/touched-by-an-angel-in-calls-rnret-try-the-very-best-vetsspec-weekend45-and-75-off-44/5108362Thats hilarious. I saw her once...as been previously reviewed she doesn't stop talking for one second. The time I was at her place she couldn't get her music to play and that didn't help. Before the happy ending she paused the session to take a shit. Then went immediately for the HJ and was wondering why "I wasnt happy to see her"!
LonlyTrucker
11-10-13, 23:04
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/touched-by-an-angel-in-calls-rnret-try-the-very-best-vetsspec-weekend45-and-75-off-44/5108362I've been touched by that Angel and I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/touched-by-an-angel-in-calls-rnret-try-the-very-best-vetsspec-weekend45-and-75-off-44/5108362Ummmm. No. I saw her once and that was enough. If a bridge had been closer I might have jumped off of it.
This is an ellipses (...) this is a comma (,) this is a period (.) they are not fucking interchangeable! Please tell your friends.
Just saying,
A2.
Hi all in my humble opinion most of you need to grow up. I've spoken to the lady in question and found her sketchy. You may care less or ask why? I believe her mental status is frequently compromised by mind altering substances and her rates fluctuate frequently. The funny thing is as per her physical description, is it spinner? She's just what I like. PK with respect you tend to dominate the conversation and do attempt to impose your methodology on other consumers. I don't know or care to know the man who referred to these women as pieces of meat, crude dude. I like to be polite, I refuse to give detailed accounts about how much cum I unloaded on her tits, face or ass, in fact I find it unnecessary and crude. To each his own as one of you said. I'm not as active as I once was too many rate increases and less than polite providers. So I'll stick to the girls I know who provide basic service at a fair rate. Name calling is just plain ignorant, I won't engage. Peace, out.
I have been following the posts by " Eddie Lewis " or whatever other names he may use on this site and other sites. I truly think that given time, he will implode. He has already antagonized, agitated, and irritated most male members by his words and actions. I for one, will NEVER share any information with assholes like him. I believe that soon the providers in this area will also learn about Eddie's views and actions, and Eddie will be an outcast on their " willing to see " list.
Hi all in my humble opinion most of you need to grow up. I've spoken to the lady in question and found her sketchy. You may care less or ask why? I believe her mental status is frequently compromised by mind altering substances and her rates fluctuate frequently. The funny thing is as per her physical description, is it spinner? She's just what I like. PK with respect you tend to dominate the conversation and do attempt to impose your methodology on other consumers. I don't know or care to know the man who referred to these women as pieces of meat, crude dude. I like to be polite, I refuse to give detailed accounts about how much cum I unloaded on her tits, face or ass, in fact I find it unnecessary and crude. To each his own as one of you said. I'm not as active as I once was too many rate increases and less than polite providers. So I'll stick to the girls I know who provide basic service at a fair rate. Name calling is just plain ignorant, I won't engage. Peace, out.
With all due respect, Why did you decide to engage at this moment?
As for imposing my methodology on others, Well that may be so. But only in an attempt to get other's 'with the program'. You can all do whatever you want, with whoever you want, whenever you want. BUT if you treat the girls like shit and behave like an uneducated BOOR then I will tell you so. No more, no less.
We are here to share our experiences so that other folks can benefit! When somebody takes that info and 'shit's in the punch-bowl' it ruins the party for the rest of us! WHY SHOULD I SHARE with ASSHOLES like EDDIE MUNSTER? So he can leave a girl who is trying earn a living high and dry on the sidewalk waiting for him to return. Literally costing her money and customers..THAT was a dickmove, that is all I was saying!
In return for expressing my distaste for that behavior- I am called out and told to fuck-off etc. THEN, the conversation goes on to rip on the provider! Like it is some SURPRISE that she may have a DRUG PROBLEM! HOLY SHIT! A sex-worker who is a drug abuser at! Say it ain't so Joe! PUHLEEESE! Anyone who is under some Hollywood illusion about the sex workers in our area needs to check himself- HARD! I for one, don't see the need to call out the issues with each girl. You know what you are paying for and who and why you are paying her. Then for Eddie to attack ME because we are all paying for 'it' is hilarious.
I don't like assholes who treat these women like shit. I DON'T FUCKING LIKE ASSHOLES LIKE THAT!!! Live your life, fuck your brains out, maybe even write a report or two about it. But if you act like an ASSHOLE, expect me to call you out on it. Plain and simple. But I don't wish to assist these assholes any longer...So I'll tell ya what I'll do. I will keep doing what I do, and share my info via PM only with trusted members- and the rest of the small-minded buffoons can go back to playing russsian roulette on BP. Good luck son! Your going to need it.
PK.
With all due respect, Why did you decide to engage at this moment?
As for imposing my methodology on others, Well that may be so. But only drug abuser at! Say it ain't so Joe! PUHLEEESE! Anyone who is under some Hollywood illusion about the sex workers in our area needs to check himself- HARD! I for one, don't see the need to call out the issues with each girl. You know what you are paying for and who and why you are paying her. Then for Eddie to attack ME because we are all paying for 'it' is hilarious.Brevity is the key to communication. Eddie is a troll, don't feed the troll. PK I'm not sure you've ever pm'd me, I do value your input. I'm just saying sometimes you're a little over the top. You likely feel my reports are too short and don't provide enough details. I hope you still trust me, if indeed you ever did. I tend to be a loner and I'm perfectly capable of researching providers.Anyway, I agree with you on your opinion of Eddie perhaps he should wear a scarlet letter and be shunned lol. Peace Bro, enjoy life to its fullest.
Brevity is the key to communication. Eddie is a troll, don't feed the troll. PK I'm not sure you've ever pm'd me, I do value your input. I'm just saying sometimes you're a little over the top. You likely feel my reports are too short and don't provide enough details. I hope you still trust me, if indeed you ever did. I tend to be a loner and I'm perfectly capable of researching providers.Anyway, I agree with you on your opinion of Eddie perhaps he should wear a scarlet letter and be shunned lol. Peace Bro, enjoy life to its fullest.
I understand your personality and postings lean toward the 'brevity' side of the spectrum and mine slant more to the verbose. Again, to each his own. And I am totally cool with that. We had some discourse early in your time as a member here, and I am sure you will recall that there was some turbulence. We smoothed the waters in a very short time and have not, and DO not now, have any issue(s) between us. In fact, I hope you realize that I don't have problems with ANYONE who does the right thing.
As I previously stated- To each his own! But that statement does NOT apply to THIEFS, ABUSERS, PEDOPHILES, and RUDE DUDES! To clarify, I will be happy to let everyone lead their lives as long as they stay within a set of pre-determined guidelines---more simply put
'Do what you like, but if you abuse or rob or steal or otherwise demean the girls in this hobby of ours- I will call you out on it!!!!"
Plain and simple- Eddie did the wrong thing to that girl last week and that makes him a raging asshole in my book. He actually posted about popping a 'grude load' in a Body-rub providers mouth some time ago. A girl I KNOW requested he not CIM. But he did so anyway and now finds it amusing. THAT kind of shit makes him an asshole!!! So I would ask, 'Why should I do anything that will assist him?'
As for me being a 'little over the top'- THAT is the understatement of the century! Except for maybe 'OBAMA saying you can keep your insurance' ;) !!!
Listen, I don't WK for anyone- so when somebody forces me to do so, it gets magnified 10X's. I rarely defend any one particular lady, but I will fight to the death for the general principles I believe in. These girls have to deal with all kinds of fat, smelly, dirty, hairy, rude, cheap, disturbed and psycho individuals- they never know what kind of situation they will walk into next. OR when a perfectly good , long term client is gonna go Ted Bundy on them! Is it really too much to ask of us as customers to show them respect and humanity? To treat them with dignity instead of that misogynistic attitude akin to fraternity parties?!?
Am I really too demanding? Is this really too hard to understand? Guys want the girls to treat them a certain way, or to meet certain expectations- BUT then they chisel the rates....they push the envelope even though limits were already made clear.... or stiff or rob the chick on the backside. THEN, brag about it on a SHMB expecting all the frat boys to cheer and holler! WOO HOO! Sorry guys, if you pull this shit, don't expect me to be your cheerleader. end of rant.
PK
I understand your personality and postings lean toward the 'brevity' side of the spectrum and mine slant more to the verbose. Again, to each his own. And I am totally cool with that. We had some discourse early in your time as a member here, and I am sure you will recall that there was some turbulence. We smoothed the waters in a very short time and have not, and DO not now, have any issue(s) between us. In fact, I hope you realize that I don't have problems with ANYONE who does the right thing.
As I previously stated- To each his own! But that statement does NOT apply to THIEFS, ABUSERS, PEDOPHILES, and RUDE DUDES! To clarify, I will be happy to let everyone lead their lives as long as they stay within a set of pre-determined guidelines---more simply put
'Do what you like, but if you abuse or rob or steal or otherwise demean the girls in this hobby of ours- I will call you out on it!!!!"
Plain and simple- Eddie did the wrong thing to that girl last week and that makes him a raging asshole in my book. He actually posted about popping a 'grude load' in a Body-rub providers mouth some time ago. A girl I KNOW requested he not CIM. But he did so anyway and now finds it amusing. THAT kind of shit makes him an asshole!!! So I would ask, 'Why should I do anything that will assist him?'
As for me being a 'little over the top'- THAT is the understatement of the century! Except for maybe 'OBAMA saying you can keep your insurance' ;) !!!
Listen, I don't WK for anyone- so when somebody forces me to do so, it gets magnified 10X's. I rarely defend any one particular lady, but I will fight to the death for the general principles I believe in. These girls have to deal with all kinds of fat, smelly, dirty, hairy, rude, cheap, disturbed and psycho individuals- they never know what kind of situation they will walk into next. OR when a perfectly good , long term client is gonna go Ted Bundy on them! Is it really too much to ask of us as customers to show them respect and humanity? To treat them with dignity instead of that misogynistic attitude akin to fraternity parties?!?
Am I really too demanding? Is this really too hard to understand? Guys want the girls to treat them a certain way, or to meet certain expectations- BUT then they chisel the rates....they push the envelope even though limits were already made clear.... or stiff or rob the chick on the backside. THEN, brag about it on a SHMB expecting all the frat boys to cheer and holler! WOO HOO! Sorry guys, if you pull this shit, don't expect me to be your cheerleader. end of rant.
PKPK, we have completely different styles but I couldn't agree more with the points you made. Certainly echoed my thoughts and perspectives, thank you.
EddieLewis
11-13-13, 21:59
Not sure about the body rub girl thing. I don't recall ever posting anything like that. I don't even use the term "grude load." Not sure where that is coming from.
Plain and simple- Eddie did the wrong thing to that girl last week and that makes him a raging asshole in my book. He actually posted about popping a 'grude load' in a Body-rub providers mouth some time ago. A girl I KNOW requested he not CIM. But he did so anyway and now finds it amusing. THAT kind of shit makes him an asshole!!! So I would ask, 'Why should I do anything that will assist him?'
PK
EddieLewis
11-13-13, 22:04
Are you serious? She told you she did that? Wow.
Thats hilarious. I saw her once...as been previously reviewed she doesn't stop talking for one second. The time I was at her place she couldn't get her music to play and that didn't help. Before the happy ending she paused the session to take a shit. Then went immediately for the HJ and was wondering why "I wasnt happy to see her"!
Rdavis1972
11-13-13, 23:18
Not sure about the body rub girl thing. I don't recall ever posting anything like that. I don't even use the term "grude load." Not sure where that is coming from.I do believe this.
Don't bother is right. She did the same to me many months ago. Although I played her game and shot not one but 2 loads right down her throat. First one I said oops, sorry second one was a grude load because of her upsell.
Great tits but she's a DNR.Is the post that loki was referring to.
EddieLewis
11-14-13, 07:54
Ah, now I recall. Should have said grudge load.
The gal advertises on BP in body rub but when you get there she is clear as day she offers more including FS. In fact she had NO covers and told me that I could CIM. She even offered BBFS which I nicely declined.
This appt was supposed to be a 150 doby rub by the time she upsold me for her BBBJ's and CIM it was 230. That's why I referred to grudge load. Trust I paid for it, was very clear.
Thanks RD for finding and reminding me.
I still stand by my NO as far as seeing her or giving my recommendation.
I do believe this.
Is the post that loki was referring to.
Member #4459
11-14-13, 17:30
http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/touched-by-an-angel-in-calls-rnret-try-the-very-best-vetsspec-weekend45-and-75-off-44/5108362I had a few PM's regarding this post, it was only a joke, I am in no way suggesting to go see this one. In fact I'm here to say DO NOT go see her. It is equivalent to be strapped in your seat, on a flight to Hong Kong, sitting next to the most annoying person you know that never stfu. Best way I can describe it.
EddieLewis
11-14-13, 22:00
I wonder if her shit stunk!! LOL.
That's like the most weird thing I've ever heard. A lady leaves the room to take a crap and tells the client about it. Wonder if she ate corn the night before.
I had a few PM's regarding this post, it was only a joke, I am in no way suggesting to go see this one. In fact I'm here to say DO NOT go see her. It is equivalent to be strapped in your seat, on a flight to Hong Kong, sitting next to the most annoying person you know that never stfu. Best way I can describe it.
I wonder if her shit stunk!! LOL.
That's like the most weird thing I've ever heard. A lady leaves the room to take a crap and tells the client about it. Wonder if she ate corn the night before.I wonder if you feel like your looking in the mirror when you see a turd in the toilet? When you do, do you wonder if you ate corn?
WarrenAJeffers
11-17-13, 22:33
Just want to thank you who showed up. It was a great time, she enjoyed it and we will be doing it again. Would have liked one more but with the three of us it was a good time.Again, stop worrying about trying to include more guys. You should be happy that you're double teaming a hot chick. Period. You keep adding more guys to the mix, and guess what? The gal runs out of holes. Then what would you do?
Member #5120
11-18-13, 06:54
Again, stop worrying about trying to include more guys. You should be happy that you're double teaming a hot chick. Period. You keep adding more guys to the mix, and guess what? The gal runs out of holes. Then what would you do?Again. What is your problem. Why don't you stop worrying about what Her and I want to do and MYOFB.
Rdavis1972
11-18-13, 10:26
Again. What is your problem. Why don't you stop worrying about what Her and I want to do and MYOFB.You just know this tool (WAJ) was grinning while typing his response. He's getting off on getting you wound up. Just ignore him.
Again, stop worrying about trying to include more guys. You should be happy that you're double teaming a hot chick. Period. You keep adding more guys to the mix, and guess what? The gal runs out of holes. Then what would you do?What is your problem man? A gangbang is just that. A gang of guys that bangs the girl. If the provider is up to having several guys, then why does it bother you? Give it a rest will you?
WarrenAJeffers
11-18-13, 23:45
Again. What is your problem. Why don't you stop worrying about what Her and I want to do and MYOFB.You didn't answer my question. What do you do when the gal runs out of holes? Stand there and grab your meat?
Are you serious? She told you she did that? Wow.Oh yea...she said she changed her diet...something like that...so gross...she is out of her mind. Literally does not stop talking for one second. It is almost funny.
Oh yea...she said she changed her diet...something like that...so gross...she is out of her mind. Literally does not stop talking for one second. It is almost funny.Recently we stopped removing ellipses (for those of you that don't know what they are they're the ...'s) because they are a mark of grammar. One uses them to indicate that you have left out part of a quote or that the author has chosen to not provide all information and is allowing the reader to fill in what may be missing. They are not used to indicate a pause. The English language has another mark that indicates a pause, it's called a comma, see I just used one, and there is another one, and yet another. When you use an ellipse for a comma, those of us that actually know what they are go back and see what quote we may have missed or what dialog may be missing when there is none it breaks up the flow of your writing.
Additionally I have to fix all of the times they are used incorrectly and that is seriously cutting into my getting laid time. If this trend continues, I'm going to have to talk to Jax about maybe doing something about it... (See; there is the correct use of one, see how I implied a threat to start removing them again but didn't actually say it?)
Recently we stopped removing ellipses (for those of you that don't know what they are they're the ...'s) because they are a mark of grammar. One uses them to indicate that you have left out part of a quote or that the author has chosen to not provide all information and is allowing the reader to fill in what may be missing. They are not used to indicate a pause. The English language has another mark that indicates a pause, it's called a comma, see I just used one, and there is another one, and yet another. When you use an ellipse for a comma, those of us that actually know what they are go back and see what quote we may have missed or what dialog may be missing when there is none it breaks up the flow of your writing.
Additionally I have to fix all of the times they are used incorrectly and that is seriously cutting into my getting laid time. If this trend continues, I'm going to have to talk to Jax about maybe doing something about it... (See; there is the correct use of one, see how I implied a threat to start removing them again but didn't actually say it?)Removing ellipses? What a waste of time. Lighten up, there are real issues that need policing. Proper punctuation isn't one of them.
See.
Recently we stopped removing ellipses (for those of you that don't know what they are they're the ...'s) because they are a mark of grammar. One uses them to indicate that you have left out part of a quote or that the author has chosen to not provide all information and is allowing the reader to fill in what may be missing. They are not used to indicate a pause. The English language has another mark that indicates a pause, it's called a comma, see I just used one, and there is another one, and yet another. When you use an ellipse for a comma, those of us that actually know what they are go back and see what quote we may have missed or what dialog may be missing when there is none it breaks up the flow of your writing.
Additionally I have to fix all of the times they are used incorrectly and that is seriously cutting into my getting laid time. If this trend continues, I'm going to have to talk to Jax about maybe doing something about it... (See; there is the correct use of one, see how I implied a threat to start removing them again but didn't actually say it?)According to Merriam-Webster..
"1 a: the omission of one or more words that are obviously understood but that must be supplied to make a construction grammatically complete.
b: a sudden leap from one topic to another.
2: marks or a mark (as.) indicating an omission (as of words) or a PAUSE < ".
Although it is frowned upon grammatically when overused.
Just saying...
Peace.
PK;).
You just know this tool (WAJ) was grinning while typing his response. He's getting off on getting you wound up. Just ignore him.RDavis, wise advice. Constructive, relevant comments should be encouraged. This is not.
According to Merriam-Webster..
"1 a: the omission of one or more words that are obviously understood but that must be supplied to make a construction grammatically complete.
b: a sudden leap from one topic to another.
2: marks or a mark (as.) indicating an omission (as of words) or a PAUSE < ".
Although it is frowned upon grammatically when overused.
Just saying...
Peace.
PK;).I know you can't read very well Loki so I'm writing slowly. Yes an ellipsis can be used to indicate a dramatic pause. However; in the example I cited there were four of them in a 19 word sentence. A2 doesn't like to break balls for no reason but I have to fix the excessive use of them. Soon I will be fixing them by simply deleting the posts that contain an excessive amount.
CMale, please allow me to retort. Making posts more readable is only part of my job, however it's an important part of my job since our product is the written word. All of the time I spend fixing the nearly unreadable posts by the worst offenders detracts from the time I could be spending taking care of the "real issues that need policing." Further, while you're always welcome to post your opinion but until you start paying me please refrain from telling me how to do my fucking job. The guy who does pay me is happy with it.
Removing ellipses? What a waste of time. Lighten up, there are real issues that need policing. Proper punctuation isn't one of them.
I know you can't read very well Loki so I'm writing slowly. Yes an ellipsis can be used to indicate a dramatic pause. However; in the example I cited there were four of them in a 19 word sentence. A2 doesn't like to break balls for no reason but I have to fix the excessive use of them. Soon I will be fixing them by simply deleting the posts that contain an excessive amount.
You should know that I actually read this passage s-l-o-w-l-y. I really did ;)
Let us all make no mistakes in understanding something here. A2 did NOT write a particular post in blue, and I tend to be a big offender of the ellipsis mistake, SO I was busting his balls just a little bit. Thus the 'just sayin ..." sign off (which BTW is a PROPER use LOL). Since he didn't write in blue I was having a little fun. No more no less.
However, he IS correct in calling that excessive use out. What some of us may take for granted is that this is a FREE forum for us. Provided at THEIR expense for US to utilize. So we probably should take that into consideration at all times. I am not sure how it is these days, but when I was a new member I had several of my first posts politely bounced back for editing of grammar and punctuation. The lesson was learned quickly and I have enjoyed my time here rather hassle free for years. This forum and others like it depend upon the 'writing' of posts for information. When the standards of proper language / grammar are not upheld things turn to shit pretty quick. The posts will begin to resemble a middle school text festival, which I, for one, would not come back to again and again.
SO... Peace, Pot and Micro-dot Motherfuckers!! ;).
Just sayin ....
PK.
Let us all make no mistakes in understanding something here. A2 did NOT write a particular post in blue, and I tend to be a big offender of the ellipsis mistake, SO I was busting his balls just a little bit.What Loki is referring to is the two different types of ink I use. When I'm posting in black like this I'm just another guy on the forum. However, when I post in blue, I'm posting as the Admin, otherwise known as the voice of fucking God on this forum.
In black, I'm just another asshole and you can call me one.
Voice of God, don't fuck with me.
A2.
Oh yeah, I forgot Loki is an asshole.
LOL.
Tall Guy John
11-21-13, 11:53
Classic, I love it!
What Loki is referring to is the two different types of ink I use. When I'm posting in black like this I'm just another guy on the forum. However, when I post in blue, I'm posting as the Admin, otherwise known as the voice of fucking God on this forum.
In black, I'm just another asshole and you can call me one.
Voice of God, don't fuck with me.
A2.
Oh yeah, I forgot Loki is an asshole.
LOL.
Oh yeah, I forgot Loki is an asshole.
LOL."All the people like us are we, and everyone else is they.
― Rudyard Kipling.
;)
Peace...
PK
The reason for these sites is for us mongers to share info If, indeed, this forum is for the open "sharing" of information and you've been at this for 10+ years, why is it that you've "shared" so little information? I'll answer for you. It's because you want all the benefits from this forum, yet are reluctant to contribute, for whatever reason. I, too, believe this forum is about sharing of information and to me sharing, as I was taught when I was about 3 years old, is about both people giving and receiving derived benefit.
My point here is that for someone to need to contribute in order to gain information is not BS. Quite the contrary, its the carrot that's being dangled for them to eek there way out of their shell and start adding posts that others can benefit from, including you. If everyone posted 11 post in 10+ years this forum would be utterly worthless. In fact you say it best when you mention all of us working together. Part of working together is contributing. Might I suggest you start!
Just my 2 cents worth.
L10.
I, too, believe this forum is about sharing of information and to me sharing, as I was taught when I was about 3 years old, is about both people giving and receiving derived benefit.
My point here is that for someone to need to contribute in order to gain information is not BS. ...
. Part of working together is contributing. Might I suggest you start!
Just my 2 cents worth.
L10.Levi has dome a fine job of articulating the general belief of 'Senior Members' that give and take is an important mantra. First we 'GIVE' then we 'TAKE'.
QUID PRO QUO boys!!
I understand that many newb 'types' don't think it necessary to participate before asking questions. Whether you have been 'around' our hobby for decades or just starting out, the need for good information is vital to good, safe, hobby practices. The truth is that as a new member you don't need to go out and TOFTT and report back before anyone helps. What you need to do is PARTICIPATE!!! that can be simply getting involved in the discussion or posting an introduction and asking questions ABOUT the hobby.
Most individuals that 'don't have a clue' start off first with a question about this girl or that girl. Which is a mistake, if you consider what would be the dynamic of the same conversation in a bar. Imagine 3 guys talking about the girls they have seen and the activities provided and for what price...Suddenly, a stranger appears and says 'What do you know about 'Sally Rottencrotch'? " All 3 guys would shut up and be like 'Who the fuck are you?' 'Piss off jerk-off and ask your mother..." yada yada yada RIGHT!
That is what tends to happen when a stranger interjects themselves in an unfamiliar group's discussion. So why would you think it is any different in an internet forum?
If you have ever seen the movie 'Animal House" and Flounder walks up to the guys obviously playing poker and says 'You guys playin' cards... And everybody stops and looks at him like the knucklehead that he is-THAT!! Is what WE do when we get that kind of question.
So the new guys can understand where this all comes from, remember- 10 yrs ago there was no craigslist or backpage etc... We had to prowl the streets or know a friend who knew a girl who provided service. When that was the case, we all guarded our secrets closely so some Jabronie didn't ruin a good thing. Times were much harder back then, so we played our cards close to the vest. That culture still exists today. Why should I give a new guy with no history the keys to my dragon horde and let him go fuck things up? I have been able to accrue a list of DOZENS of ladies to call, who can see me at a moments notice and cure what ails me- Which is a VAST improvement over driving the stroll for hours looking for some toothless Tammy to lick the lizard. I don't do the streetwalker thing anymore, not with the list of lovely girls I have seen and continue to see.
Talk about SO MUCH BETTER! Words cannot describe the happiness in my soul to go to a hotel room, take a shower, pay the lady, get naked and enjoy the carnal debauchery that will surely ensue!
Now, all we ask is that members PARTICIPATE!!! If you think that is 'bullshit' or 'bs' ...let me know how you feel about that in a year- after you take 800 PM's requesting the number and address of your ATF. After you give the number out to some faceless stranger who then goes and abuses that girl so badly that she leaves the biz forever. After she won't take your calls anymore because she thinks you are friends with that asshole. After you can't get a date because the girls talk and decide you have the wrong friends and they won't risk it with you because they think you are part of 'those guys'.
Yes, we are a difficult group to become entrenched with. We don't share our information as freely as the bloodsuckers would like. But the truth is- WE DO! Read the fucking forums!! Almost ALL the answers to those dickhead questions have been answered already, many are just too lazy to do their own research. So they just ask a blunt ' HAs anyone seen 'Sally Stinkpants'? Yeah, we have! She was the topic of debate last week, but you don't want to go back and search so why not just ask?
Fuck, I can't even begin to count the number of times I was promised information back if I provided digits upfront and got NOTHING! Got to be in the hundreds of times by now. The words 'Give and Take' are presented since time eternal in that order 'FOR GOOD REASON.
Peace.
PK.
Member #4459
12-14-13, 16:36
Listen to the man, now I will provide an example why.
In the not so distant future I received countless PM's regarding a particular massage provider, I won't mention any names in this post nor via pm, just felt the need to share after reading what Loki just said.
Some 1 post 'POG' (piece of garbage) that I provided with BASIC info decided to use me, w / o my consent, as a reference via my screen name. As a long time customer the provider knew my screen name and happily obliged the 'POG' with an appointment. Well this scumbag, low life was a pushy arrogant loser and didn't want to play by the rules, so apparently every time he overstepped a boundary it was followed up with I (that would be ME) said it was allowed.
I received a text message asking me to never refer her to anyone I know again, the creep ' I sent ' tried to short her on the donation, was pushy, had terrible hygiene, etc. Needless to say my texts from that point were never answered again, nor my calls. A lose lose situation for her and I. Obviously she was wayyy creeped out and in her eyes, I had a major part in why.
Now I understand the guys who say they will provide info via PM to senior members only, makes a hell of a lot of sense. It makes one wonder how many 'POG' have used the more popular names here as reference w / o any consent after reading a review or comment. I'd bet most of the 1 post wonders are actually one in the same continuously making up new screen names, hoping to get a reputable reviewer to fall for the bait. In my case it was complete made up bullshit but how the hell do you police that?
Proceed with caution Gents.
Fox.
Rdavis1972
12-14-13, 16:58
Levi has dome a fine job of articulating the general belief of 'Senior Members' that give and take is an important mantra. First we 'GIVE' then we 'TAKE'.
Peace.
PK.Look at it this way, it's not so much that people are "new", but rather that they are unknown. Not only is there the possibility of you being uncle LEO, but there's a handful of douches on here that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire much less share any kind of info with. If you don't participate and prove yourself, how does anybody know you're not another of those douches?
Believe me, I know how it is. I started out asking for information, and Loki called me on it. I, however understood where he was coming from and overcame. At least I think I did. Maybe I'm just delusional and all these guys think I'm one of the douches. Haha.
Guys? GUYS!?
Well then.
Listen to the man, now I will provide an example why.
In the not so distant future I received countless PM's regarding a particular massage provider, I won't mention any names in this post nor via pm, just felt the need to share after reading what Loki just said.
Some 1 post 'POG' (piece of garbage) that I provided with BASIC info decided to use me, w / o my consent, as a reference via my screen name. As a long time customer the provider knew my screen name and happily obliged the 'POG' with an appointment. Well this scumbag, low life was a pushy arrogant loser and didn't want to play by the rules, so apparently every time he overstepped a boundary it was followed up with I (that would be ME) said it was allowed.
I received a text message asking me to never refer her to anyone I know again, the creep ' I sent ' tried to short her on the donation, was pushy, had terrible hygiene, etc. Needless to say my texts from that point were never answered again, nor my calls. A lose lose situation for her and I. Obviously she was wayyy creeped out and in her eyes, I had a major part in why.
Now I understand the guys who say they will provide info via PM to senior members only, makes a hell of a lot of sense. It makes one wonder how many 'POG' have used the more popular names here as reference w / o any consent after reading a review or comment. I'd bet most of the 1 post wonders are actually one in the same continuously making up new screen names, hoping to get a reputable reviewer to fall for the bait. In my case it was complete made up bullshit but how the hell do you police that?
Proceed with caution Gents.
Fox.Silver Fox your past experience with some member falsely using your handle as a reference is the reason that I have always informed the woman that I will ONLY share her contact information with those senior members and some regular members that I know to be " legit " contributors to this site or other sites that I am on. The woman and I establish a " code word or words " that she must hear from the man. If she doesn't hear the code words as we agreed in advance, then she knows that the recommendation did NOT come from me. As SilverFox said, anyone reading this site could contact the woman and say " " Quail " sent me or " Quail " and I are best buddies. " I do this because I not only want to protect the woman from a newbie jerk / creep, but also possible LE that may be monitoring these sites. And I want to insure that this woman who I have enjoyed personally as well as my friends and trusted fellow members have enjoyed, continues to safely provide her services to us for a long time to come. Very often the provider will send me HANDLE on the site as well as his REAL name. Many times when a member contacts this woman, the member give his real name (or a fake real name) . While I do know many members real names as well as their handles, for the most part I do not. So when the provider tell me that " Tom Swift " called, I have no clue what " Tom Swift's " handle is. Shit, I just used the name Tom Swift, who was a character in a series of boys books in the 1950's that I read- Like the Hardy Boys series or the Nancy Drew series of books for girls. My " tenure and experience (and yes Loki, my age " are showing here. LOL. That is why I ask the woman to get me the handle.
I, probably more than most members, have found or tried someone new and, always with the providers permission. Been willing to post a review or comments and share her information. But I always ask her permission in case she wishes to remain UTR. If she chooses UTR and perhaps wants ONLY a few new clients, then I will only contact by private message those trusted members that I believe will enjoy her particular skills or looks.
I don't mind if folks are hard on new posters, the community polices itself, and works.
For the most part, my PMs are in RFIs, not requests for me. That's mostly because I don't frequent the locals, my mongering is out of town. The "don't shit where you eat" mantra applies. If I go local it's either someone I'm sure of, or a total TOFTT in a situation where a girl is someone I think I've run into out of town, so while maybe new to Albany not necessarily new to a traveller.
I only mention this because as a traveller, I do often rely on information from communities like this in other towns, often on other sites. So in that sense I do sympathize somewhat with infrequent but out of town requests. That doesn't mean a healthy dose of skepticism is out of line, or inappropriate, because in my experience real mongers know how give and take works. It's a universal system in my experience, and give is expected before take.
Not really a rant, but the thread is touching a topic I have to deal with in my travels.
Oh and I'm glad to see "Brooke" has gone solo and is getting positive attention. I reviewed her here many months ago and she was excellent. Not really my type, but she puts it all into her sessions and anyone who doesn't have fun with a girl who tries clearly has too small a sample for context.
I have been trying to get together with my 'all time'-ATF and have not been having any luck. I just don't want to drive out to her place. From my comfort zone it is a good 20 minutes one way, maybe more with traffic. Allowing for missed calls and bullshit it would be 50-55 minutes round trip plus the time for the date. So I have not seen her in more than a few months.
Holiday season has arrived and so have the 'I'm available' texts from the aforementioned 'atf'. We have a code so it is not an issue, and she has followed contact procedure without a problem. Problem is that I have spoken to her 4 times in the last 4 days and it has become more than obvious that I represent nothing more than an ATM to supplement the holiday shopping spree.
Now before we get all on the 'I told you so' /'You should know better' bandwagon--believe me when I tell you that I am under no illusions when it comes to this business...and DO NOT get stars in my eyes / or get all misty-eyed thinking about our time together. The issue is the absolute rude nasty attitude I got when I couldn't make our timetables match up. Seriously, after trying to set a meet on Saturday she was hot and heavy to meet ...then 4 hrs until next contact! Obviously, I had made other arrangements and my time to play was over. I told her I couldn't meet and she hung up the phone! WoW very surprised, not like the girl I had seen for years previously, not at all.
No time to play on Sunday :( so... 'thanks, no thanks text' replied to her, and I hear crickets. Usually, she would say sorry hun and maybe tomorrow...yada yada yada. Today the texts came in at 9:30 am, 11:30 and 3 pm and sorry but I'm working so I text, 'I'll call after 6'... and no reply. I call her at 5:55 6:15 6:45 and nothing. I hear back at almost 8 pm and she wants to see me an hour after that. I apologized and said that would not work and she hung-up on me again. Frankly, I was pissed, like really annoyed- pissed. Too bad because I couldn't even begin to explain how much coin I spent on her since 2009-2010 OMFG!.
So I go do some Christmas shopping and got bored and made a few other calls. Destiny was able to see me on short notice...FUN was had by ALL ;).
And I made sure to leave a little extra coin for the Christmas season! Good for Destiny!! Bad for my old friend C'est la vie!!
Peace.
PK.
Problem is that I have spoken to her 4 times in the last 4 days and it has become more than obvious that I represent nothing more than an ATM to supplement the holiday shopping spree.
So I go do some Christmas shopping and got bored and made a few other calls. Destiny was able to see me on short notice...FUN was had by ALL ;).
And I made sure to leave a little extra coin for the Christmas season! Good for Destiny!! Bad for my old friend C'est la vie!!
Peace.
PK.All Women look at us Guys as their personal Money Machines. So this shouldn't be a Big Secret. All Women, Hookers or Regular Girls Love Dead Presidents over a Living Guy. Very few Women like a Guy for who he is. Glad you found a new replacement.
Thompson7675
12-24-13, 01:52
I too get that Christmas time rush. Need money to buy gifts bullshit. Unless their offspring are getting crack rocks in their stockings. I had one girl tell me she needed to get her kid a gift cert for Christmas. I told her I would pick it up on my way to see her and she's like oh no you don't need to do that. They won't be open that early. Dam ladies don't fuckin lie to us. We are not stupid for Christ's sake.
Merry Christmas mongers.
And I made sure to leave a little extra coin for the Christmas season! Good for Destiny!! Bad for my old friend C'est la vie!!
Peace.
PK.If this is a certain spinner that I'm thinking of, that's disappointing. She's generally a good provider.
I too get that Christmas time rush. Need money to buy gifts bullshit. Unless their offspring are getting crack rocks in their stockings. I had one girl tell me she needed to get her kid a gift cert for Christmas. I told her I would pick it up on my way to see her and she's like oh no you don't need to do that. They won't be open that early. Dam ladies don't fuckin lie to us. We are not stupid for Christ's sake.
Merry Christmas mongers.I did take my ATF Christmas Shopping tonight. I bought her Toys for her kids. When you actually go with her and she gets Toys and things for her kids, then you know how the Money is being spent. She treats me Great when I see her. At least I know that the Money was spent on Gifts for her kids.
EddieLewis
12-24-13, 07:26
Ron M.
Consider what you did, a very nice gesture. Yes, when you know they actually use the money for what they say, is a nice feeling and goes a long way.
I did take my ATF Christmas Shopping tonight. I bought her Toys for her kids. When you actually go with her and she gets Toys and things for her kids, then you know how the Money is being spent. She treats me Great when I see her. At least I know that the Money was spent on Gifts for her kids.
EddieLewis
12-24-13, 07:32
LPK.
Not sure what respond to this other than I know exactly what you are saying.
I had an ATF for a spell before I realized very quickly the same line she was giving me she was giving to him and him and him and him. At that point, I found others to spend time with and eventually weeded her out.
To date, I still get the texts from the former ATF asking for $. I don't think it will ever end!! No, I do not give in and pony up!! Not going to happen.
To add up what I gave her over a short amount of time would have me really pissed off.
Happy Holidays all!!
EL.
I have been trying to get together with my 'all time'-ATF and have not been having any luck. I just don't want to drive out to her place. From my comfort zone it is a good 20 minutes one way, maybe more with traffic. Allowing for missed calls and bullshit it would be 50-55 minutes round trip plus the time for the date. So I have not seen her in more than a few months.
Holiday season has arrived and so have the 'I'm available' texts from the aforementioned 'atf'. We have a code so it is not an issue, and she has followed contact procedure without a problem. Problem is that I have spoken to her 4 times in the last 4 days and it has become more than obvious that I represent nothing more than an ATM to supplement the holiday shopping spree.
Now before we get all on the 'I told you so' /'You should know better' bandwagon--believe me when I tell you that I am under no illusions when it comes to this business...and DO NOT get stars in my eyes / or get all misty-eyed thinking about our time together. The issue is the absolute rude nasty attitude I got when I couldn't make our timetables match up. Seriously, after trying to set a meet on Saturday she was hot and heavy to meet ...then 4 hrs until next contact! Obviously, I had made other arrangements and my time to play was over. I told her I couldn't meet and she hung up the phone! WoW very surprised, not like the girl I had seen for years previously, not at all.
No time to play on Sunday :( so... 'thanks, no thanks text' replied to her, and I hear crickets. Usually, she would say sorry hun and maybe tomorrow...yada yada yada. Today the texts came in at 9:30 am, 11:30 and 3 pm and sorry but I'm working so I text, 'I'll call after 6'... and no reply. I call her at 5:55 6:15 6:45 and nothing. I hear back at almost 8 pm and she wants to see me an hour after that. I apologized and said that would not work and she hung-up on me again. Frankly, I was pissed, like really annoyed- pissed. Too bad because I couldn't even begin to explain how much coin I spent on her since 2009-2010 OMFG!.
So I go do some Christmas shopping and got bored and made a few other calls. Destiny was able to see me on short notice...FUN was had by ALL ;).
And I made sure to leave a little extra coin for the Christmas season! Good for Destiny!! Bad for my old friend C'est la vie!!
Peace.
PK.
What really spins my head around was the rude attitude when she wasn't getting what she wanted. She was all warm and charming when I was trying to set the date. As soon as she realized it wasn't going to work out she got rude, short and hung up.
No problem seeing as I haven't been seeing her 3-4 times per week anymore. I moved on to better things long ago. But it was just a little bit painful to see the true colors of her personality shine through. I have now deleted her from my contact list and have placed several others who actually provide BETTER service ON my ATF list.
There are always options for BOTH sides in this equation- Later 'gator!
Peace.
PK.
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Seriously?
You gotta bust my ass on Christmas Eve?
A2
She has been blowing up my phone since 10 am! Yeah, real nice...because she knows I would normally give her at least 2 x's her rate for a Christmas gift.
Such is life!
Just goes to show you, 'it's nothing personal Sonny, strictly business'!
Merry Christmas Eve Boys and girls! ;).
Peace.
PK.
EddieLewis
12-24-13, 14:34
What's the old saying? Tell her No once, you'll see how much she likes you. Or NOT!
I hear you on the sweetness until she hears no. Then the real beast makes the scene.
EL.
She has been blowing up my phone since 10 am! Yeah, real nice...because she knows I would normally give her at least 2 x's her rate for a Christmas gift.
Such is life!
Just goes to show you, 'it's nothing personal Sonny, strictly business'!
Merry Christmas Eve Boys and girls! ;).
Peace.
PK.
What's the old saying? Tell her No once, you'll see how much she likes you. Or NOT!
I hear you on the sweetness until she hears no. Then the real beast makes the scene.
EL.True, True, True story right there!!
Nail on the head!!
Peace.
PK.
What is the deal with girls who post ads saying "available all day" and then when you call they can't see you until after 4 pm?
I mean 'what's with that, anyway'?.... Too bad, because I was hoping to see a girl when I was in her neighborhood and she told me she was out shopping and wouldn't be back until after 4.
Now I know many folks just put up the same ad day after day without making any adjustment, but really... Is it too hard to not place the ad until you are ready to see customers? Or to adjust the ad copy to be correct?
I don't expect most of the ladies to have the marketing skills of Ron Popeil, but jeeze! Am I the only one who thinks that phone skills and attention to detail in the ad may be a reflection of the service as well?
End Rants for 2013 ;).
Peace.
PK.
EddieLewis
12-26-13, 20:55
Folks.
My Norton's is blocking something called Nuclear Exploit Kit Website when I get on this site. Not sure what it is but thank God my Norton's is earning its keep!!
I equate this to the provider's skills in general. Be assured I do not expect magna cum laude however truth in statements made goes a long way with me. With that in mind, I have walked out of more than one hotel when someone who has emphatically stated that they are indeed the girl in the pic and another creature shows up wanting to provide service. Lok I have had the exact same experience looking to play mid day and swung and missed with girls who's ad states available any time day or night. They never saw a penny of this kids money! Girls. Listen up. Proof read your listing prior to posting it. Make sure it represents you accurately. You will get far better reviews which leads to repeat business which means more cash.
Rant done!
L10.
What is the deal with girls who post ads saying "available all day" and then when you call they can't see you until after 4 pm?
I mean 'what's with that, anyway'?.... Too bad, because I was hoping to see a girl when I was in her neighborhood and she told me she was out shopping and wouldn't be back until after 4.
Now I know many folks just put up the same ad day after day without making any adjustment, but really... Is it too hard to not place the ad until you are ready to see customers? Or to adjust the ad copy to be correct?
I don't expect most of the ladies to have the marketing skills of Ron Popeil, but jeeze! Am I the only one who thinks that phone skills and attention to detail in the ad may be a reflection of the service as well?
End Rants for 2013 ;).
Peace.
PK.
Ladies,
Ditch the attitude of the phone. I am calling to get information. I am interested in meeting you, if I wasn't I wouldn't be calling. The call, however, is not a guarantee that it will work out and if it doesn't I haven't "wasted your time", some of the information you gave me prevented me from seeing you this time. It may have been the price, the location, the time your available, it could have been a number of things.
However I can tell you this, if you give me a pissy attitude just because I won't book an appt. Right then and there, your phone won't be ringing with my number on your caller I'd. Ever.
We the hobbyists aren't the enemy. Remember that. If you can't, go work at McDonalds where I would like a large fry with that please.
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/time-is-expiring-5184917956-24/13385572
Time is expiring 518-4****56 - 24
Cute sexy crazy fun everybody wants me because I'm number one bet you won't say I'm not what would you bet on it the stakes must be generous Schenectady ny any time of day you can reach me to set up a time 518-4****56 and I will talk to you soon
Poster's age: 24
• Location: Albany, Schenectady
• Post ID: 13385572 Albany
Now normally I would not pull out an ad for ridicule... BUT! Since Msanders brought up the whole idea of phone skills, I thought I would present it in a broader scale ie. TCB skills as a concept. Many girls make horrible choices and mistakes by either choosing the WRONG photos...such as in this example IMHO. (The horrible pimple assed twerk shot must be akin to a guy sending a girl a 'cock-shot') ABSOLUTELY NOT SEXY! Or, they word the ad in a borderline retarded manner...again, such as we see here ;)
Also, there is a definite correlation between the bad grammar / wording / incoherent run-on sentences and bad service / upsell /'list of no's" etc. Having come to that realization, much like Msanders, if the phone skills are rude or nasty or just 'off then I move on to greener pastures as well.
Peace.
PK.
RonJeremyJr11
01-23-14, 21:29
The funny thing about the ad you just posted is that she is always walking the stroll in schnectady tweeking out. I have never experienced her or tried to she always looks out of it. LOL.
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/time-is-expiring-5184917956-24/13385572
Time is expiring 518-4****56 - 24
Cute sexy crazy fun everybody wants me because I'm number one bet you won't say I'm not what would you bet on it the stakes must be generous Schenectady ny any time of day you can reach me to set up a time 518-4****56 and I will talk to you soon
Poster's age: 24
• Location: Albany, Schenectady
• Post ID: 13385572 Albany
Now normally I would not pull out an ad for ridicule... BUT! Since Msanders brought up the whole idea of phone skills, I thought I would present it in a broader scale ie. TCB skills as a concept. Many girls make horrible choices and mistakes by either choosing the WRONG photos...such as in this example IMHO. (The horrible pimple assed twerk shot must be akin to a guy sending a girl a 'cock-shot') ABSOLUTELY NOT SEXY! Or, they word the ad in a borderline retarded manner...again, such as we see here ;)
Also, there is a definite correlation between the bad grammar / wording / incoherent run-on sentences and bad service / upsell /'list of no's" etc. Having come to that realization, much like Msanders, if the phone skills are rude or nasty or just 'off then I move on to greener pastures as well.
Peace.
PK.
AND...another perfect example of what NOT TO POST!
LOL.
Peace.
PK.
Rdavis1972
01-25-14, 22:08
AND...another perfect example of what NOT TO POST!
LOL.
Peace.
PK.She is swallowing that thong right through get skin!
I am sorry to rant about this AGAIN...BUT!
Why is it always that when I, and I assume other's, post reviews and reports about the ladies we see ...I get 101 PM's asking for more details? WHAT! MORE details?! WTF?! I mean seriously fellas how much more fucking detail do you want?
ALSO, how come 98.99% of these questions are BCD? Ask your questions in the public forum for pity's sake! Chances are somebody else may have the same questions. PARTICIPATE FUCKER!
I have PM's from folks I have never even heard off...ZERO reports...ZERO posts...Joined 2 years ago!! HOLY SHIT! P-A-are-T-I=see-I-P-A-T-E!
SHARE AND SHARE alike.
I don't mean to go off like a devil in church, but after so many years of playing and reporting AND RANTING...people still don't 'get it'. A user based group / forum depends on the USERS to PARTICIPATE!
For the record, I will no longer be responding to PM's from non-active members. And by 'non-active' I mean guys with ZERO activity, and 1000 questions. To those who have earned their stripes and have taken a step back- no worries- ask away.
Am I the only one who feels this way?
Peace.
PK.
Loki,
Tell them to stfu & toftt.
But I have a question for the group. Is there value in reviews of girls that have been reviewed many times if nothing is different from previous, recent reviews? I'm thinking my post count is low here because I never review the already well reviewed, and thus I'm probably looked at as a new although I think most vets know I've been around awhile.
But I also don't want to be the douche saying the same thing as the guy I'm getting sloppy seconds from either. Clearly a first-world problem.
Loki,
Tell them to stfu & toftt.
But I have a question for the group. Is there value in reviews of girls that have been reviewed many times if nothing is different from previous, recent reviews? I'm thinking my post count is low here because I never review the already well reviewed, and thus I'm probably looked at as a new although I think most vets know I've been around awhile.
But I also don't want to be the douche saying the same thing as the guy I'm getting sloppy seconds from either. Clearly a first-world problem.Post the report as YOU saw it. Even though it may be the same, it will be different because its yours. Everyone has a different perspective and every little bit helps.
Call them like YOU see them:).
Peace.
PK.
Rdavis1972
02-28-14, 07:34
Loki,
Tell them to stfu & toftt.
But I have a question for the group. Is there value in reviews of girls that have been reviewed many times if nothing is different from previous, recent reviews? I'm thinking my post count is low here because I never review the already well reviewed, and thus I'm probably looked at as a new although I think most vets know I've been around awhile.
But I also don't want to be the douche saying the same thing as the guy I'm getting sloppy seconds from either. Clearly a first-world problem.Anybody can do a good job once, that doesn't make them a good provider. Several good reviews show a pattern of consistency. The same could be said for negative reviews. I definitely think there's value in any honest review.
Member #4459
03-01-14, 09:57
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/36dddd-pretty-japanese-girl-temptations-100-youngandreal-pics-21/13631878
Anybody ever meet a Japanese girl who was straight from China? Lmao!
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/36dddd-pretty-japanese-girl-temptations-100-youngandreal-pics-21/13631878
Anybody ever meet a Japanese girl who was straight from China? Lmao!AHHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
Classic!
Peace.
PK.
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/36dddd-pretty-japanese-girl-temptations-100-youngandreal-pics-21/13631878
Anybody ever meet a Japanese girl who was straight from China? Lmao!Didn't you know that everything is made in China these days!
Didn't you know that everything is made in China these days!FUCK!! Goddamn outsourcing ruining the industry! LOL.
Peace.
PK.
You can Pick your friends...you can pick your nose...BUT! You CAN'T wipe your friends under the couch!
BAHAHAHAHAHA.
PK.
GuitarGuy1000
03-09-14, 20:52
I apologize for my limited number of posts: I don't have the combination of free time and hobby capital that some of the more illustrious members have, but I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate their informative and entertaining reports. I'm sure that a number of members live somewhat vicariously through the exploits of the others. I myself, have only seen a handful of providers and have authored a few reviews on the nr site under a different, but similar username. I have a true fondness for massage, asian women and the AMP experience in general, which brings up my topic of conversation: In the past year, there have been numerous raids on various area AMPs: some have survived and reopened (CP, Scotia, Bennington x 2), some have closed for good (Saratoga, GS). Shortly after numerous very explicit reviews were posted on NR, the CP AMP was raided and arrests ensued. Coincidence? The others have been reviewed here and on other sites prior to their being raided as well. AMPs differ from providers, in that (for the most part) they are not individuals using fake names and discrete locations, they are brick and mortar storefront businesses operating in our communities, towns, cities, villages etc. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot when we post detailed reviews of our AMP experiences on the various sites and feeding ammunition to uncle LEO, who we know from the various news reports, is monitoring this site, BP, NR, etc.?? There is no anonymity for reviewing an AMP as opposed to reviewing a provider. I have hesitated to post AMP experiences for this reason. I welcome debate, both pro and con on this topic. Are we helping or hindering the cause? Thoughts?? Thanks.
I apologize for my limited number of posts: I don't have the combination of free time and hobby capital that some of the more illustrious members have, but I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate their informative and entertaining reports. I'm sure that a number of members live somewhat vicariously through the exploits of the others. I myself, have only seen a handful of providers and have authored a few reviews on the nr site under a different, but similar username. I have a true fondness for massage, asian women and the AMP experience in general, which brings up my topic of conversation: In the past year, there have been numerous raids on various area AMPs: some have survived and reopened (CP, Scotia, Bennington x 2), some have closed for good (Saratoga, GS). Shortly after numerous very explicit reviews were posted on NR, the CP AMP was raided and arrests ensued. Coincidence? The others have been reviewed here and on other sites prior to their being raided as well. AMPs differ from providers, in that (for the most part) they are not individuals using fake names and discrete locations, they are brick and mortar storefront businesses operating in our communities, towns, cities, villages etc. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot when we post detailed reviews of our AMP experiences on the various sites and feeding ammunition to uncle LEO, who we know from the various news reports, is monitoring this site, BP, NR, etc.?? There is no anonymity for reviewing an AMP as opposed to reviewing a provider. I have hesitated to post AMP experiences for this reason. I welcome debate, both pro and con on this topic. Are we helping or hindering the cause? Thoughts?? Thanks.I'm woefully ignorant of AMP believing escorts provide more what I'm looking for. In fact I haven't been to a massage parlor since I was stationed in Ft. Carson during the VN war, Koreans everywhere frequently abandoned by army dudes. I think your point is valid and should be adhered to.
? Thoughts?? Thanks.I agree 100%. The AMP scene is SO much more simplified when it comes to LEO. No elaborate Ruse need be devised. Little time and money spent on such endeavor ... All they have to do is walk-in and pay for a massage. If she offers CLM without a license it is an automatic misdemeanor, it actually has more teeth than the prostitution charge. Then there is the illegal immigrant issue etc. THAT can be BIG TROUBLE if trafficking is involved. Then of course the prostitute charges.
Talk about low-hanging fruit.
So yeah, I think the details for the AMPs should be abbreviated and much info should be exchanged BCD in that regards. Too bad, but it has always been the elephant in the room.
Peace.
PK.
Member #4459
03-10-14, 21:23
There is no anonymity for reviewing an AMP as opposed to reviewing a provider. I have hesitated to post AMP experiences for this reason. I welcome debate, both pro and con on this topic. Are we helping or hindering the cause? Thoughts?? Thanks.Personally I think the HE reviews have little to do with these places getting pinched besides speeding up the inevitable. Operating in Nys w / o a license (LMT) is an E Felony and that's what most do on a daily basis, aside from any other violations. Not to mention they advertise multiple times daily exposing themselves even more.
SF.
Hey did anyone else get a random PM from someone named MilfLick420?
TheRealWantsom
04-01-14, 13:54
I understand the need to "vet" posts from newbies, but when does the probationary period end for members. The time it takes to get a post on the board is really driving my lack of contributing. Is it based on the number of posts, quality of reports, on length of time as a member?
I understand the need to "vet" posts from newbies, but when does the probationary period end for members. The time it takes to get a post on the board is really driving my lack of contributing. Is it based on the number of posts, quality of reports, on length of time as a member?Copied from the forum FAQ:
Why are Forum Member's reports reviewed before they are posted?
The reason why Forum Member's report are held pending moderations is to stop Serial Spammers and to ensure adherence to the Forum's Posting Guidelines.
1.First, please recognize the the purpose of monitoring reports it not to aggravate you but to keep The Forum free of spam. It is specifically because I put in the work to monitor posts that the Forum is relatively spam free. I don't like all the work, but I know from experience that there's no other option if I want to keep the site free of SPAM.
2. Second, the Forum is a compendium of reports, not a chat room. I care about the reports, not the chit-chat. Therefore, I don't think it's really that big of a deal if, for example, a report about Rio de Janerio is visible at 6 pm or not until a few hours later?
How long does it take for Forum Member's reports to be reviewed?
Forum Member's reports are reviewed and approved a minimum of twice per day, approximately every 12 hours, and usually at approximately 12:00 noon and 12:00 midnight EST.
In addition to the loosely scheduled moderation times described above, it is quite common for me to moderate pending reports throughout the day as time permits.
The average wait between the time a Forum Member's report is uploaded and the time it is actually displayed in the forum is less than 6 hours.
PLEASE NOTE: The average moderation time is less than 6 hours".
This is from here: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?faq=posting_questions#faq_posting_questions_02.
I understand it can be frustrating to wait for the mod approval, but it shouldn't deter you from posting. As has been stated by the owner of the site- 'it is not a chat room' . Tough it out for a short while and then you can have your cake and eat it too. Stick around for a bit, we could use more good participation.
Peace.
PK.
Rdavis1972
04-03-14, 06:36
Sorry guys, I'm exceptionally tired this morning and this small screen on my phone looks extra blurry. I tried to respond to s post from TheRealWatson which also contained a comment from A2. Since I am the moderator on this thread (I created it), I have the ability to delete posts. The link to delete a post is in the same place where you'd normally click to reply to the post.
Long story short, target than responding to the post, I mistakenly deleted it. I don't sewer anyway that I can recover it.
Again, I'm an idiot, I apologize!
Rdavis1972
04-03-14, 11:55
The delete post from TheRealWatson was in regards to how long posts wold continue to be moderated. A2 had added a comment explaining how it worked. The jist of it is that after you have been a regular member for 6 months, and have amassed at least 25 post, and do not have a history of douchy posts, you'll then be a senior member and your post will no longer be moderated. This of course assumes that you continue to not act douchy, otherwise even as a senior member your posts could be required to be moderated.
TheRealWantsom
04-04-14, 06:35
The delete post from TheRealWatson was in regards to how long posts wold continue to be moderated. A2 had added a comment explaining how it worked. The jist of it is that after you have been a regular member for 6 months, and have amassed at least 25 post, and do not have a history of douchy posts, you'll then be a senior member and your post will no longer be moderated. This of course assumes that you continue to not act douchy, otherwise even as a senior member your posts could be required to be moderated.THANK YOU! Seeing my post deleted, I figured I was not being civil and was now classified as a douche. I'll keep posting and hopefully loss the newbie status.
THANK YOU! Seeing my post deleted, I figured I was not being civil and was now classified as a douche. I'll keep posting and hopefully loss the newbie status.To the best of my knowledge TheRealWantsom has not been douchey. Sr membership is automatic after six months and 25 posts, without coming to my attention. Even if you do come to my attention as a douche you will still be a Sr, you will just be a moderated Sr.
Thanks for clearing this up Rdavis.
A2
That I have become a bit bored with the same old routine. I find that sometimes I am having a hard time reaching an orgasm.
Today it occurred to me as to 'why' that may be.
My theory revolves around the blowjob ability of many providers or more actually, the lack of that ability. The skills that actually "make me cum" as opposed to "having me cum with her there". That is to say, me having to finish myself on her face or in her mouth by my own hand. As opposed to a more 'hands free' scenario.
Sometimes, as of late, I have had to take things into my own hands to reach a climax. Which, in and of itself, is not a bad thing...just not a GREAT thing. Either my time is running short or my girl is just rubbing me the wrong way. Or maybe, sucking my cock but not SUCKING my COCK!! I find I need a bit more stimulation these days. Which could be either a little PM action or just better technique or situation.
I used to enjoy the 'car-date' and SW action as I enjoyed the 'risk' of getting caught and the bit of public spectacle. After having done that a million times and a thousand ways I grew tired of it. I began to enjoy the BP / Craigslist action. In the comfort of a room, fully naked, no holds- barred (or holes;)) and that was GREAT for a long time now.
But now I find myself more and more critical of the girls technique or timing. Not on purpose, of course.
The other day I found myself in a great incall with a hot little spinner and jerking off into her mouth and face and it was cool... but a bit 'meh'.
THEN, I found myself a few days later exploring the depths of Brooke's throat at her incall near Schenectady and I was in fucking heaven! Laying back and having my cock sucked by this chick until she MAKES ME CUM! And that is when I realized it. SHE makes ME cum. Hard BTW;) Not just sucking my dick until I reach down and pull it across the finish line!
That is my dilemma and the new motivation that drives my dick to "explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before!
Peace.
PK.
That I have become a bit bored with the same old routine. I find that sometimes I am having a hard time reaching an orgasm.
Today it occurred to me as to 'why' that may be.
My theory revolves around the blowjob ability of many providers or more actually, the lack of that ability. The skills that actually "make me cum" as opposed to "having me cum with her there". That is to say, me having to finish myself on her face or in her mouth by my own hand. As opposed to a more 'hands free' scenario.
Sometimes, as of late, I have had to take things into my own hands to reach a climax. Which, in and of itself, is not a bad thing...just not a GREAT thing. Either my time is running short or my girl is just rubbing me the wrong way. Or maybe, sucking my cock but not SUCKING my COCK!! I find I need a bit more stimulation these days. Which could be either a little PM action or just better technique or situation.
I used to enjoy the 'car-date' and SW action as I enjoyed the 'risk' of getting caught and the bit of public spectacle. After having done that a million times and a thousand ways I grew tired of it. I began to enjoy the BP / Craigslist action. In the comfort of a room, fully naked, no holds- barred (or holes;)) and that was GREAT for a long time now.
But now I find myself more and more critical of the girls technique or timing. Not on purpose, of course.
The other day I found myself in a great incall with a hot little spinner and jerking off into her mouth and face and it was cool... but a bit 'meh'.
THEN, I found myself a few days later exploring the depths of Brooke's throat at her incall near Schenectady and I was in fucking heaven! Laying back and having my cock sucked by this chick until she MAKES ME CUM! And that is when I realized it. SHE makes ME cum. Hard BTW;) Not just sucking my dick until I reach down and pull it across the finish line!
That is my dilemma and the new motivation that drives my dick to "explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before!
Peace.
PK.This is a great post. Both in its honesty and truth. Thanks!
In my opinion the number of quality providers for reasonable rates has diminished tremendously. I still know a few nice, clean intelligent escorts but I've always wanted to see new talent. I was so desperate Wednesday I went to Backus St. In Schenectady picked up a thin mixed race girl for two Jefferson "baby" had four kids blah, blah, blah. It was okay she might be a little nuts. Just venting not looking to put down any of the honest and decent providers. Peace out.
I have ben enjoying some new twists to the hobby and have begun to see the world with new eyes.
Vampire Eyes!!
Everything seems new to me...opportunity behind every door...possibility in every chick I pass.
As I walk into a store or a room full of people I look around and wonder 'who will be next". Who is here to play, or could be convinced to play;).
I have been able to connect the dots on 4 or 5 girls I have seen, and know how close to me some of them really are. Almost TOO CLOSE for comfort. ALMOST.
One girl has a sister I have seen as well...neither knows the other has seen me.
As well as a different girl who has a roommate that I play with also. Then there is ANOTHER chick that I have seen quite a bit who has a bff that worked for me for years. Now I look around and see that more folks are involved in this hobby than many care to admit. The more I see, the more I SEE!
Now for those who are worried or fucking pussies!! I'm not out killing and sucking blood! I just have begun to be more and more aware of what is happening around me. And WHO it is happening for or to. I see the world and those around me in a different light, as though a veil has been pulled away to reveal the truth...and I dig it!!
Peace.
PK.
GuitarGuy1000
04-17-14, 13:15
I have noticed how the various local (and not so local!) AMPs have changed their advertising strategy and photos in an effort to increase business: "Sweet, sexy Asian love", "Hot, sweet, lovely Asian girls", "grand opening young girls", "charmin-hot-sweet-Asian girls", "new arrival- for your full bodywork pleasure", "amazing bodywork-Happy time", "Hot-Hot!" As competition heats up, so do the ads and photos. Is it only a matter of time before another round of busts spoils the local AMP scene here in the capital district? It seems inevitable! Stay safe!
http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hot-lovely-asian-girl-_-first-time-in-town-23/13628901
A fifty years old Asian woman with ugly teeth, asking high price.Do you have any actual reviews or are you just trolling the BP ads and posting bullshit for fun?
PK.
Do you have any actual reviews or are you just trolling the BP ads and posting bullshit for fun?
PK.Like we don't know the Asian adds are fake pics.
Like we don't know the Asian adds are fake pics.I had to TOFTT today and was rewarded in Spades!!
Sometimes even a blind squirrel gets a nut! .
Peace.
PK.
Is it me? Or are things getting a bit 'Shilly' around here this week /.
LOL.
Seems like a sudden influx of first time posters all singing the praises of untried and probably untrue ladies.
Again.is it just me?
Peace.
PK.
With first time posters it's easy to be skeptical initially Loki. Good thing if many of these newbies are legit though.
With first time posters it's easy to be skeptical initially Loki. Good thing if many of these newbies are legit though.It is easy to be skeptical when someone comes on and 'White Knights' a provider that more than a few senior members have reviewed poorly. When someone posts 2-3 posts the DAY the join, singing the praises of some be&S provider or scammer and then is never seen or heard from again- We tend to be skeptical.
I saw Mia about six months ago, when she was advertising with Allure. Her pictures were accurate (she was super hot), and the service was okay, but not GFE. Everything was covered, which was fine by me. I think I paid $75 for an hr, but it was a while ago so I don't remember. Allure is one of those agencies, like extreme fantasies was, where the fee that they quote you, just gets the girl to your hotel room, then you have to "tip" up front for any service. I'm inclined to believe that the new pictures are legit as well.
A guy answers the phone when you call, and he was easy to deal with, although the Mia later told me that he thought I was a LE because I asked in the phone how much I needed to tip for good service. Also, outcall only.
Hope that helps. I know I should've shared this a while ago, since I lurk all the time on this board. But here it is anyway.
I've read a lot of comments on here about this Ashley, I checked the whole room when I got there and no one was in the bathroom. She was sweet and look just like she did in the photos even better. Asked for a little extra for some fetish stuff but I thought it was reasonable for a golden shower. Just sharing my experience not tying to say anyone might not have been right but I'm going to go see her again for my fix.Just two simple examples in the last couple of weeks.
THEN, when REAL guys come on and post a bad review we tend to not give it as much weight because guys like this ruin the information pool.
Or when a first time poster comes on and says "I have been lurking for a while..." then posts three or 4 reviews in the same thread that all read like they were paraphrased from one of MY reviews...or Quail's, or Levi10's or Reaper's. Do they think we didn't notice? Is it LEO trying to infiltrate the circle?
I don't fucking know! But it's Rants and Raves so DEAL WITH IT! :).
Peace.
PK.
It is easy to be skeptical when someone comes on and 'White Knights' a provider that more than a few senior members have reviewed poorly. When someone posts 2-3 posts the DAY the join, singing the praises of some be&S provider or scammer and then is never seen or heard from again- We tend to be skeptical.
Just two simple examples in the last couple of weeks.
THEN, when REAL guys come on and post a bad review we tend to not give it as much weight because guys like this ruin the information pool.
Or when a first time poster comes on and says "I have been lurking for a while..." then posts three or 4 reviews in the same thread that all read like they were paraphrased from one of MY reviews...or Quail's, or Levi10's or Reaper's. Do they think we didn't notice? Is it LEO trying to infiltrate the circle?
I don't fucking know! But it's Rants and Raves so DEAL WITH IT! :).
Peace.
PK.I stand my review of Mia. Just because I don't wax poetic every time I get an HJ doesn't mean that I'm shilling. Someone asked about allure and I responded. That's different than an unsolicited report about a girl with terrible prior reviews. No one has contradicted my report either, and I'm sure that someone here has used that agency since they've been on BP for ever.
On another note, I'm suspicious of every review I read, too. Sometimes I'm suspicious of shills, sometimes I wonder if some of us just have bad of taste. I mean- who is really recommending Brooke in S'dy? She's covered in bruises, her place is disgusting and her teeth look like a 7-10 split. Who cares if she's a bbj Picasso? Same with Layla at the place near SUNY. I walked out on both.
By the way, I'm not offended if anyone thinks I'm a shill. My review was effusive, and I have no credibility here. But I will say that if anyone here sees Mia from Allure and says that she's not smoking hot, they're a fucking liar.
GuitarGuy1000
05-10-14, 00:02
I stand my review of Mia. Just because I don't wax poetic every time I get an HJ doesn't mean that I'm shilling. Someone asked about allure and I responded. That's different than an unsolicited report about a girl with terrible prior reviews. No one has contradicted my report either, and I'm sure that someone here has used that agency since they've been on BP for ever.
On another note, I'm suspicious of every review I read, too. Sometimes I'm suspicious of shills, sometimes I wonder if some of us just have bad of taste. I mean- who is really recommending Brooke in S'dy? She's covered in bruises, her place is disgusting and her teeth look like a 7-10 split. Who cares if she's a bbj Picasso? Same with Layla at the place near SUNY. I walked out on both.
By the way, I'm not offended if anyone thinks I'm a shill. My review was effusive, and I have no credibility here. But I will say that if anyone here sees Mia from Allure and says that she's not smoking hot, they're a fucking liar.Well said! Welcome to the site!
I stand my review of Mia. Just because I don't wax poetic every time I get an HJ doesn't mean that I'm shilling. Someone asked about allure and I responded. That's different than an unsolicited report about a girl with terrible prior reviews. No one has contradicted my report either, and I'm sure that someone here has used that agency since they've been on BP for ever.
On another note, I'm suspicious of every review I read, too. Sometimes I'm suspicious of shills, sometimes I wonder if some of us just have bad of taste. I mean- who is really recommending Brooke in S'dy? She's covered in bruises, her place is disgusting and her teeth look like a 7-10 split. Who cares if she's a bbj Picasso? Same with Layla at the place near SUNY. I walked out on both.
By the way, I'm not offended if anyone thinks I'm a shill. My review was effusive, and I have no credibility here. But I will say that if anyone here sees Mia from Allure and says that she's not smoking hot, they're a fucking liar.Nobody is asking you to 'wax poetic' every time you pop a nut. BUT...how about a little more than one single post, about a girl you saw SIX MONTHS ago. Is it really too much to ask for people to participate in a reasonable manner? And by reasonable, I mean to say that guys could report with a little more frequency or less 'lag' time form visit to report.
When somebody has just one post ever and is effusive regarding that provider, it smells fishy. Now I am not saying you are full of shit, I am simply calling attention to the 'pattern' into which your post falls under. After almost a month you haven't posted any other info...haven't offered any other opinions or insight UNTIL I referenced your post. So your second post ever is merely defending the first.
Usually the shills just fade into the void and aren't heard from again so it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
It is hard to overlook proven patterns of behavior, so we do tend to look at newbs with an eye of suspicion. Sorry if it comes across as abrasive... All I ask is to be proven wrong.
Peace.
PK.
Welcome to the forum and please share your experiences more frequently. For example, your opinion about Brooke and Layla could have helped some people make up their own mind. It certainly helped make up my mind.
Stay safe.
Vic.
I stand my review of Mia. Just because I don't wax poetic every time I get an HJ doesn't mean that I'm shilling. Someone asked about allure and I responded. That's different than an unsolicited report about a girl with terrible prior reviews. No one has contradicted my report either, and I'm sure that someone here has used that agency since they've been on BP for ever.
On another note, I'm suspicious of every review I read, too. Sometimes I'm suspicious of shills, sometimes I wonder if some of us just have bad of taste. I mean- who is really recommending Brooke in S'dy? She's covered in bruises, her place is disgusting and her teeth look like a 7-10 split. Who cares if she's a bbj Picasso? Same with Layla at the place near SUNY. I walked out on both.
By the way, I'm not offended if anyone thinks I'm a shill. My review was effusive, and I have no credibility here. But I will say that if anyone here sees Mia from Allure and says that she's not smoking hot, they're a fucking liar.
I stand my review of Mia. Just because I don't wax poetic every time I get an HJ doesn't mean that I'm shillinr.AND posting 2 times ever...one to shill and the second to defend that shill post. Yup, my bad...so sorry.
PAAHAHHAHHAHA!
PK.
I stand my review of Mia. Just because I don't wax poetic every time I get an HJ doesn't mean that I'm shilling. Someone asked about allure and I responded. That's different than an unsolicited report about a girl with terrible prior reviews. .See... It is this type of participation, or more accurately, the lack thereof, that causes me to doubt new members. Guys ***** and moan about how hard it can be to get 'in' with the senior members. Yet the truth is the only thing...THE ONLY thing, you need to do is post every so often. If you find the atmosphere to 'hostile' remember 2 things:
1. Rants and raves was invented to keep the hostility to this thread alone...thus cleaning up the main forums from petty bickering, like this :) So that is a nonissue in the main threads. If the bickering is too much for the thin skinned and the weak of constitution, avoid this thread.
2. Of course it can be hostile! It is an illegal activity and everyone is at risk. Of being robbed, outed, VD, bait and switch and the list is as long as your arm. So we tend to be PROTECTIVE of our sources for reliable pussy! This is REAL life adult shit boys and girls. If it goes bad it can go bad fast in so many ways.
So if y'all think I'm a harsh taskmaster... YOUR God Damn RIGHT I am! I enjoy my participation in this hobby and value the friends I've made on both sides of the aisle. I can make a phone call and less than 30 minutes later I can be balls deep in some beautiful chicks throat! Who wouldn't be protective of that kind of quality and convenience.
Fwiw I am not saying Digibal is a liar, I'm saying if you have info...share it. Obviously he has more information as he's been doing it for years.
Peace.
PK.
See... It is this type of participation, or more accurately, the lack thereof, that causes me to doubt new members. Guys ***** and moan about how hard it can be to get 'in' with the senior members. Yet the truth is the only thing...THE ONLY thing, you need to do is post every so often. If you find the atmosphere to 'hostile' remember 2 things:
1. Rants and raves was invented to keep the hostility to this thread alone...thus cleaning up the main forums from petty bickering, like this :) So that is a nonissue in the main threads. If the bickering is too much for the thin skinned and the weak of constitution, avoid this thread.
2. Of course it can be hostile! It is an illegal activity and everyone is at risk. Of being robbed, outed, VD, bait and switch and the list is as long as your arm. So we tend to be PROTECTIVE of our sources for reliable pussy! This is REAL life adult shit boys and girls. If it goes bad it can go bad fast in so many ways.
So if y'all think I'm a harsh taskmaster... YOUR God Damn RIGHT I am! I enjoy my participation in this hobby and value the friends I've made on both sides of the aisle. I can make a phone call and less than 30 minutes later I can be balls deep in some beautiful chicks throat! Who wouldn't be protective of that kind of quality and convenience.
Fwiw I am not saying Digibal is a liar, I'm saying if you have info...share it. Obviously he has more information as he's been doing it for years.
Peace.
PK.Christ. Why are you still talking about me? Haven't you said your peace? I don't go on the board for a week, and when I check in, there's 2000 words to read. Why say in 5 words what can be said in 2000, I guess.
I don't post reports about the girls whose books are already written, because there's little point. I only posted on allure because there was an information gap. Now I feel like I have to defend them, and I don't like to be in that position. I don't know know the guy that runs them, I don't get a cut of the action, I don't care if anybody uses them.
If I have useful information, I'll share it, okay?
I don't get it? Why do some hobbyists feel that they need to treat the providers like garbage? What's the deal?
I just spoke to a girl I saw Friday, she is positively the BEST I have seen in this hobby to date. Bar none. She was tastefully dressed, very attractive and INCREDIBLY accommodating and she wasn't a clock watcher by any stretch of the imagination. She never asked for the donation until after the session was over and only when she was headed out the door. She was simply amazing.
I just spoke to her and she is pretty close to quitting the hobby. Last week she saw more assholes that SMELLED like an asshole than she did guys that were clean and respectful.
WHY?
Why do these guys think that it's OK to show up smelling like a garbage dump and then treat the girl like a piece of trash? If you want a "ho", pick up a girl on Albany St. If she treats you like crap, fine, give it right back to her. However, this is not the first time I have talked to a provider that gives a quality experience that gets treated like dirt.
You're paying her. So what? It doesn't mean you own her and it doesn't mean she doesn't deserve respect. You wonder why we don't get great girls in the area and so much bait and switch crap? There is your answer.
Man up. Treat a lady like a lady.
Msanders, thanks for posting this. I agree with you completely. I have been told by providers that the vast majority of guys treat them badly. So they get too defensive, and throw it back on other people. Like the nice guys. We all should read your post, and learn a little bit. Thanks.
I don't get it? Why do some hobbyists feel that they need to treat the providers like garbage? What's the deal?
I just spoke to a girl I saw Friday, she is positively the BEST I have seen in this hobby to date. Bar none. She was tastefully dressed, very attractive and INCREDIBLY accommodating and she wasn't a clock watcher by any stretch of the imagination. She never asked for the donation until after the session was over and only when she was headed out the door. She was simply amazing.
I just spoke to her and she is pretty close to quitting the hobby. Last week she saw more assholes that SMELLED like an asshole than she did guys that were clean and respectful.
WHY?
Why do these guys think that it's OK to show up smelling like a garbage dump and then treat the girl like a piece of trash? If you want a "ho", pick up a girl on Albany St. If she treats you like crap, fine, give it right back to her. However, this is not the first time I have talked to a provider that gives a quality experience that gets treated like dirt.
You're paying her. So what? It doesn't mean you own her and it doesn't mean she doesn't deserve respect. You wonder why we don't get great girls in the area and so much bait and switch crap? There is your answer.
Man up. Treat a lady like a lady.
I don't get it? Why do some hobbyists feel that they need to treat the providers like garbage? What's the deal?
I just spoke to a girl I saw Friday, she is positively the BEST I have seen in this hobby to date. Bar none. She was tastefully dressed, very attractive and INCREDIBLY accommodating and she wasn't a clock watcher by any stretch of the imagination. She never asked for the donation until after the session was over and only when she was headed out the door. She was simply amazing.
I just spoke to her and she is pretty close to quitting the hobby. Last week she saw more assholes that SMELLED like an asshole than she did guys that were clean and respectful.
WHY?
Why do these guys think that it's OK to show up smelling like a garbage dump and then treat the girl like a piece of trash? If you want a "ho", pick up a girl on Albany St. If she treats you like crap, fine, give it right back to her. However, this is not the first time I have talked to a provider that gives a quality experience that gets treated like dirt.
You're paying her. So what? It doesn't mean you own her and it doesn't mean she doesn't deserve respect. You wonder why we don't get great girls in the area and so much bait and switch crap? There is your answer.
Man up. Treat a lady like a lady.I have gotten about 8 PM's so far from guys who want to know which provider I am referring to.
No fuckin' way am I letting that cat out of the bag.
I have no way of knowing who the douchebags are that are doing this and I'm not going to risk telling one of them so they can take retribution with her. It's not happening.
It doesn't matter either. She was passing through for the weekend on a road trip and she is never coming back. She travels all over the country and she says she has never been treated as poorly as she was here.
If that means you don't believe this is a problem, then you are likely a part of the problem.
Man up. Treat the ladies with respect until they give you a reason not to.
End of story.
Christ. Why are you still talking about me? Haven't you said your peace? I don't go on the board for a week, and when I check in, there's 2000 words to read. Why say in 5 words what can be said in 2000, I guess.
I don't post reports about the girls whose books are already written, because there's little point. I only posted on allure because there was an information gap. Now I feel like I have to defend them, and I don't like to be in that position. I don't know know the guy that runs them, I don't get a cut of the action, I don't care if anybody uses them.
If I have useful information, I'll share it, okay?Because I AM BAITING YOU YA FUCKING DING DONG! You must have a metal plate in your head you're so thick! So I will spell it out for you in 'five words'. You need to participate MORE. K?
Did you even READ my rant?
PK.
Hobbyist10
05-20-14, 18:15
Every time I check this site out, Loki is acting like a dickhead. Maybe you are what you eat. LOL.
Every time I check this site out, Loki is acting like a dickhead. Maybe you are what you eat. LOL.Wow! Did you have to google that original quote or did your Mother just say it to you AGAIN.
Thank you for all the tremendous contributions to this forum over the years... Excuse me...YEAR. 21 posts in twelve months, almost 20% of which have been redacted by the Admins. 3 since last August and 2 of those are redacted. Thanks for stopping by.
Can I get that number for the last 'female' you were with? I forgot to give your Mom her birthday gift;).
PK.
Msanders. I completely agree with you in that every provider deserves to be treated with respect. Furthermore, you often times get what you give, so if it were me jonesing for some special treatment from these providers then shower, shave, clean up and treat the provider like you'd like to be treated.
Now with all that being said, I'd certainly stop short of calling these providers "ladies". A true lady doesn't suck cocks for a living nor does she do anything sexually for cash, period. These are human beings that deserve to be treated with respect and dignity however lets not confuse them with ladies. This is just my two cents. And its probably over priced!
L10.
I don't get it? Why do some hobbyists feel that they need to treat the providers like garbage? What's the deal?
I just spoke to a girl I saw Friday, she is positively the BEST I have seen in this hobby to date. Bar none. She was tastefully dressed, very attractive and INCREDIBLY accommodating and she wasn't a clock watcher by any stretch of the imagination. She never asked for the donation until after the session was over and only when she was headed out the door. She was simply amazing.
I just spoke to her and she is pretty close to quitting the hobby. Last week she saw more assholes that SMELLED like an asshole than she did guys that were clean and respectful.
WHY?
Why do these guys think that it's OK to show up smelling like a garbage dump and then treat the girl like a piece of trash? If you want a "ho", pick up a girl on Albany St. If she treats you like crap, fine, give it right back to her. However, this is not the first time I have talked to a provider that gives a quality experience that gets treated like dirt.
You're paying her. So what? It doesn't mean you own her and it doesn't mean she doesn't deserve respect. You wonder why we don't get great girls in the area and so much bait and switch crap? There is your answer.
Man up. Treat a lady like a lady.
Rampage1212
05-23-14, 02:05
A true lady doesn't have sex for money? I guess you've never heard of dating LOL.
BTW, as far as treating them like ladies and with respect.. Well it depends who you're dealing with to be honest. You can't treat a **** like a lady.
Elegant ladies do not fuck, suck cock, or turn tricks, for cash period. These providers are just that-service providers. I have dated my fair share of "ladies" not one would ever consider posting an ad or hitting the streets in hopes of making a living. I have never paid a date cash. Yet I certainly purchased dinner, treated them special and had my fair share of fun afterwards however no cash ever changed hands.
L10.
A true lady doesn't have sex for money? I guess you've never heard of dating LOL.
BTW, as far as treating them like ladies and with respect.. Well it depends who you're dealing with to be honest. You can't treat a **** like a lady.
Rampage1212
05-23-14, 22:35
Elegant ladies do not fuck, suck cock, or turn tricks, for cash period. These providers are just that-service providers. I have dated my fair share of "ladies" not one would ever consider posting an ad or hitting the streets in hopes of making a living. I have never paid a date cash. Yet I certainly purchased dinner, treated them special and had my fair share of fun afterwards however no cash ever changed hands.
L10.Dude, you spent money in hopes of getting sex. What's the difference? LOL one way or another, dudes pay for sex, weather its a hooker or a date.
I've never paid for sex, I hear that so many times mostly from young cats & old heads that should know better! Every man is going to pay for pussy in his lifetime, whether it be directly...hooker on the corner or indirectly...taking Elegant bitches out to eat & to the movies & what not! If you want that ass...We are going to pay to get it!
Dude, you spent money in hopes of getting sex. What's the difference? LOL one way or another, dudes pay for sex, weather its a hooker or a date.Here's a difference: friends ask for your time, not your money. One way or another we guys spend on the ladies. It's nice to do business with a personable provider, just keep it in perspective. When we pay for sex and are on the clock we shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking that we're with a friend. Once you've paid her for sex, try asking the same lady out for an even more expensive night on the town. Think that'll get you laid?
For what it is worth... Guys need to treat ALL women with respect and dignity. If she has a silver spoon in her mouth, up her nose, or in her Vag it shouldn't make a difference. Looking down on anyone for doing what they do is a measure of your own character, not theirs. The true measure of a man is how he treats people who mean nothing to him. Treat them like shit and it is a reflection of YOU, not them.
Everybody has a story, a hardship, a misery or a Joy that brought them to this point. To behave like some half-brained Mongoloid just because you can, simply shows a lack of respect for society in general. A callous disregard for someone's personal dignity will only serve to drag you deeper into the depths of depravity.
Yes, it is AWESOME that we can pay for play and have the fantasy that the wife, GF or SO doesn't provide. I find that this hobby exceeds my wildest dreams as a cum filled teenager!! But to degrade and denounce any woman for the life they lead is not a sign of strong character. It shows a heart filled with self-loathing that manifests outwardly upon those around them.
Are they Who*res or Bit*ches? Slu*ts or cu*nts? Yeah, sometimes. But they don't have to be hookers to fulfill those definitions. We all know plenty of professional ladies that MORE than exceed those descriptors and they've never sucked cock for cash (or have they;)) .
The point I'm trying to make is that people are people and we should be thankful this hobby exists to fill those voids in our lives that need it. Not judging from on high. From the dirtiest streetwalker to the highest paid call girls or courtesans, you all should learn to treat them better than what has been shown in this thread.
You all know me, I'm a raging fucking prick who will throw down with the best of them at the drop of a hat. But I can say in all honesty that I have never treated a 'lady of the evening' as a piece of meat or less than human. I'm polite. I'm clean. I pay what she asks. I ask from time to time if our chosen activity is making her uncomfortable. I am concerned for her well-being. I don't do what she asks me not to. If she says stop, I stop. WHY? Because I may want to see her again!! Or another girl she may know. These women talk about us, fellas! And if you treat them like shit, THEY WILL REMEMBER YOU! And they will tell their friends, who WILL REMEMBER YOU!
Know why I get laid so much? Because I treat them as well as I can and I don't fucking haggle. When they see my number ring through, they answer. Because they REMEMBER ME and know what to expect. Courtesy goes a long way, as does cleanliness. Play heads up ball guys and you will be rewarded. Shoot dirty pool and your options will grow smaller by the day.
Peace.
PK.
GuitarGuy1000
05-25-14, 19:51
I don't get it? Why do some hobbyists feel that they need to treat the providers like garbage? What's the deal?
I just spoke to a girl I saw Friday, she is positively the BEST I have seen in this hobby to date. Bar none. She was tastefully dressed, very attractive and INCREDIBLY accommodating and she wasn't a clock watcher by any stretch of the imagination. She never asked for the donation until after the session was over and only when she was headed out the door. She was simply amazing.
I just spoke to her and she is pretty close to quitting the hobby. Last week she saw more assholes that SMELLED like an asshole than she did guys that were clean and respectful.
WHY?
Why do these guys think that it's OK to show up smelling like a garbage dump and then treat the girl like a piece of trash? If you want a "ho", pick up a girl on Albany St. If she treats you like crap, fine, give it right back to her. However, this is not the first time I have talked to a provider that gives a quality experience that gets treated like dirt.
You're paying her. So what? It doesn't mean you own her and it doesn't mean she doesn't deserve respect. You wonder why we don't get great girls in the area and so much bait and switch crap? There is your answer.
Man up. Treat a lady like a lady.The same thought process should apply to the women in our favorite AMPs as well! I always arrive clean and groomed, even at places where a table shower is available. I have found that treating the women with respect usually yields it's rewards. The women in the various AMPs work extremely hard and rely on tips: the house gets the upfront fee, not the masseuse! And just because we ARE giving her a tip, doesn't' give us an excuse to manhandle them or force them into doing anything that they aren't comfortable with. They are human beings too! I have enjoyed myself above and beyond, even in some the AMPs known for being "therapeutic" only! Some of the most sensual sessions have been provided by women with the "less than stellar" looks, so although YMMV, don't always judge the book by it's cover, tip accordingly, be respectful, and stay safe!!
The same thought process should apply to the women in our favorite AMPs as well! I always arrive clean and groomed, even at places where a table shower is available. I have found that treating the women with respect usually yields it's rewards. The women in the various AMPs work extremely hard and rely on tips: the house gets the upfront fee, not the masseuse! And just because we ARE giving her a tip, doesn't' give us an excuse to manhandle them or force them into doing anything that they aren't comfortable with. They are human beings too! I have enjoyed myself above and beyond, even in some the AMPs known for being "therapeutic" only! Some of the most sensual sessions have been provided by women with the "less than stellar" looks, so although YMMV, don't always judge the book by it's cover, tip accordingly, be respectful, and stay safe!!Amen brother! A-fuckin-men!
Peace.
PK.
Amen brother! A-fuckin-men!
Peace.
PK.Listen to my big brother guys he knows his stuff.
Peace.
BK.
Rdavis1972
05-27-14, 18:14
Listen to my big brother guys he knows his stuff.
Peace.
BK.Well played "Loki BK", or shill we just call you "BK"? LOL!
Listen to my big brother guys he knows his stuff.
Peace.
BK.Really Frank? Really?
PK.
I am the king of working girls. It is my life. It's what defines me. I am the best at it and you all need to look up to Me and Me only. I will not just stand by while people on this site ridicule me damn it! I am the King! Love me god damn it!
It's Rants and Raves so I'll leave it, but I'm banning the user name. Hobbyist10 you can post shit like this here under your real name.
A2
I am the king of working girls. It is my life. It's what defines me. I am the best at it and you all need to look up to Me and Me only. I will not just stand by while people on this site ridicule me damn it! I am the King! Love me god damn it!Isn't there an age limit? I wasn't aware that they allowed 7th grade idiots here.
But if that's how you want it. No problem. The forum is yours.
Enjoy.
PK.
Really Frank? Really?
PK.Public Apology to Frank Pierce for making a bad call.
My sincere apologies sir, I was wrong and I am sorry.
Peace.
PK.
Sweet Destiny
05-30-14, 11:04
Msanders. I completely agree with you in that every provider deserves to be treated with respect. Furthermore, you often times get what you give, so if it were me jonesing for some special treatment from these providers then shower, shave, clean up and treat the provider like you'd like to be treated.
Now with all that being said, I'd certainly stop short of calling these providers "ladies". A true lady doesn't suck cocks for a living nor does she do anything sexually for cash, period. These are human beings that deserve to be treated with respect and dignity however lets not confuse them with ladies. This is just my two cents. And its probably over priced!
L10.I consider myself a lady as I carry myself very well. To say we are not considered a LADY actually baffles me as I know plenty of LADIES in this business that carry themselves up to par as well. And I would consider them a LADY.
SamClemens
05-30-14, 12:49
I consider myself a lady as I carry myself very well. To say we are not considered a LADY actually baffles me as I know plenty of LADIES in this business that carry themselves up to par as well. And I would consider them a LADY.I can't vouch for every provider, and there are certainly some in the profession that, let's say, are on the shady side.
But Destiny is absolutely a "lady" in every sense of the word.
I have visited her four or five times, and each visit has been pleasurable not only because of the physical aspect, but because of the classy, friendly and intelligent manner she has exhibited on each of my visits.
I can't vouch for every provider, and there are certainly some in the profession that, let's say, are on the shady side.
But Destiny is absolutely a "lady" in every sense of the word.
I have visited her four or five times, and each visit has been pleasurable not only because of the physical aspect, but because of the classy, friendly and intelligent manner she has exhibited on each of my visits.I have been seeing Destiny since she first started as an escort many years ago on escorts.com . She has always conducted herself very dignified and has always taken care of her clients by responding promptly and being on time. She has a friendly personality, always a smile on her face, and recently graduated college. And her sexual skills and ability to please her clients are first rate, as clearly shown by her many positive reviews on this site and other sites, and her ability to turn first time clients into regular, returning clients. Thank you Destiny for many years of pleasing me.
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