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WordUp
03-02-03, 18:41
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PRICE .... PRICES .... is a damn hard as thing to set a regular price to because so many factors are included. I personally am not into paying more than $75 for any Sw, Stripper, or whomever. I must admit that I have paid as much as $150, for this Fine Azz thick Stripper in Memphis, Tenn. and again in Detroit, Mich.. I broke all the rules, because I had to have this person, for she was a dream type , in looks and everything else. Yet, I got my MONIES Worth, and they both stay almost (3) hours because we had a lot of fun together, and and the drinking helped too.

....> I say all this to say that the prices we arre paying to SxWkrs, is easily driving up the price. especially in MP, whether Asian or NOT. You can dictate what you are willing to pay by simply NOT paying higher prices for BAD service. And GooD Service can be paid the extra tips, include of just assuming you have to give one. As you have begun to see, SW are NO longer concern if they give you good service, and you still pay because the Qualtity and Quality of SW is Soo Damn Poor. I mean some of the Street Walkers, as dressed up as they are often forget to completely wash, before hitting the streets. Nothing is worse than SW > BO.


....>> I have found a lot of diamonds in the rough, and have had girls as pretty as model, and as sexy as a Playmate for little as $20-25 .... and had them for and hour or more. Some I have put up in a motel, because they were homeless, and hit it often, while there. I have even sent some back home on Greyhound .... but that is rare, because most live right in the city and fully know what they are doing. So paying a high price, will just set it, and you will evenually be paying more at some point.

....>>> It is very important that as much as we want to and it is hard, that we stop paying high prices. Keep telling them you will pay this amount, and sooner or later they "WILL" give in. You will benefit from someone elses refusal. It will work out because they are in the business of making money too.


.......>>>> Lastly, it is important to be respectful, and kind if possible. Treating SW like SW/HOES will get you nowhere, and make even get you beat up. Treating them with kindness, has gotten me a lot of extras, good referrences, twosomes for the price of one, and warnings about other girls, areas, people, and situations. A little Respect and Kindness, can go very far.

PRICE .... is still the issue, so put more thought into it, and be prepared to tell them "NO" if you feel the price is out of line, and the service is BAD. Especially at MP's. Too bad we can't picket.


This is the first post to this subject, I hope it is NOT the last.
ALSO, I know prices are better outside of the USA, but few are willing to travel in search of SW. This post is about SW here in the USA. For those who do not know, "This You Now Know !!!!"




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nai
03-03-03, 02:42
2 cents on price:

Los Angeles AMPS:
50 for half hour off the bat - sometimes $40
plus tip
40-HR, 60-BJ, 80-100 FS... almost always give 100, unless the service isn't good (e.g. hurried, HR finish, rude, attitude, etc.).

If you give less, they will remember you - they have memories like elephants.

TJ
at AB and CC:
50-60 FS plus 11 room and 1-2 tip room staff.
For SW around 20 FS after negotiation. Think the room was less, too, but not certain.

DayNight
07-02-03, 05:51
BTW, cheaptest I got (besides free) was US$5.00 in Vung Tau/Vietnam in 1991. It was ***** house at the beach. Good service too. But had to use crab shampoo later.

Cum On Her
07-14-03, 03:21
To get your car into shape throw some fresh gear on it.
Let them know you know how to ride it wild.
A lot of abbreviations are in here for you that are into cars you will know what is what.

Here is a break down of some terms

hj (hydrolic junk)
bj (blower junk)
full (full intake)
greek lessons (they do this in the back of their shop for extra money)

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street legal cars:

$0 feel test, includes some hj,bj, seeing the goods, fingering the engine
$1-10 hj
$10-20 bj
$20-40 full
$20-60 greek lessons

subtractions

-$1 for everytime a that crack ***** mechanic scratchs or smells something... seriously(you can get them down pretty low $0 for full if you know what you are doing)

additions places to wait for repairs

$0 waiting in your car, just keep out of sight or keep an eye on things

$0 repairs at your house risky but the price is right (you would need the mechanic to drop you at your door, letting them know where you live)

$0 a lot of mechanics will have there own place (be weary cause they may have someone there, which could be good or bad)

$0-60 motel/hotel

if a mechanic doesn't have a place to keep the car the night you can say the money you are paying goes to the room. so you get a room and mechanic for one low price

$0-60 airbagless, your life, be safe out there, death is just around the door. if you like it without the airbag it is your own call.

$0-100 photos/video for insurance purpose. some will let you do it just to show off their work.

notes

street is cheapest but dirtiest way to get your car tuned.

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house full of mechanics:

all the same rules as street but you usually will have a selection of mechanics

additions

if you are in a house of mechanics a lot of time the head mechanic that is running the house will want soem extra cash for himself

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strip mall mechanics:

$0 talking about what the mechanic can do to your car (beware mechanics are professionals at talking the talk just to get more money out of you.)

$10-40 table detailing (where the mechanic goes up on the table for a better view of the car)

$10-60 private auto detailing (usually done behind close doors. no one will know what is going on with your ride, unless you show them.)

subtractions

none

additions

$1-10 for drinks from the drink machine, for you and your mechanic (they encourage you to buy some)

$0-40 hj during private auto detailing
$0-80 bj during private auto detailing
$0-140 full during private auto detailing

$0-140 airbagless during private auto detailing

$0-400 after business hours private auto work (usually quick and too the point unless they really like you)

notes

they usually have picture for sale of their work, but you can not photograph.film while they work

become friends with one of these mechanics and they may do the work for free, but you have to be very good friends

usually there is loud music playing in the back to help them work

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amp: (auto motor place, like peppy guys)

$30-60 for a half hour tune up
$40-100 for an hour tune up

generally includes body scrub (of car), full buffing (of car), hj

subtractions

none

additions

$0-40 tip for hj
$0-60 tip for bj
$0-100 tip for full
$0-100 tip for greek lessons (most do not do this seeing as they speak an asian language)

$0-200 after hours waxing of your car (you must be a very loyal customer for this. they usually wax and buff until your car can not take anymore.)

notes

make friends with the asians they have the best cars around. if you make friends you dont have to tip them. just pay for the normal job

if you get to know them they like to meet outside of work and sometimes will let you photograph/film auto buffing at your place for free

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auto model shop:

$30-45 for 15-45 minute inspection
$30-150 for 30-60 minute inspection

subtractions

-$0-50 for uglier mechanics (greasy)
-$0-50 for poor working conditions (low light, no bed/lift for car)

additions

$0-40 hj
$0-80 bj
$0-150 full
$0-200 greek lessons (a lot of mechanics at these places love greek for some reason)

$0-100 not using aribag (these mechanics are usuall safe enough. a lot of them have done amatuer films about working on cars.)

$0-400 after shop hours some mechanics work on your car on the side

notes

photos/video are usually available from there mechanics

some of these place do not time the inspection and have a flat rate for a full inspection.

these places usuall like to show off demo bras and other coverings for your car.

these places are generally a safe bet once you know who to go to and who not to go to. they will treat you better the more often you go. make sure that you make a good offer the first time but not one that will be too much on your wallet because they will charge this every time you are in the shop

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out of home high scale mechanic:

$100-300 flat rate just to look at the car

subtractions

none

additions

$0-100 hj
$0-150 bj
$0-300 full

$0-300 with no airbag

$0-1000 pictures/video for your insurance

notes

some will just accept the flat rate for any type of job you have planned to do to your car.

they are usually safe bets due to you going to there home where they do all the work from.

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in home high scale service woman:

$150-300 flat rate just to look at the car

subtractions

none

additions

$0-100 hj
$0-150 bj
$0-300 full

$0-150 driver

$0-300 with no airbag

$0-1000 pictures/video for your insurance

notes

some will just accept the flat rate for any type of job you have planned to do to your car.

some will bring a driver to watch over them as they fix your car

these people are fifty fifty on what could be a great experience for your car and being ripped off.

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friend/ home work on your car:

$0 no money need here

$0 for picture as long as ou have good friends

$0 waxing anything you want

subtractions

none

additions

you may have to buy them lunch, cuddle and hug, say you love them

notes

safest bet for using no air bag, although most accidents in cars happen at or near home. so just don't let your car leak oil in the garage.

some mechanics like to use elecric engines in their garage

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my calculation may be wrong for the parts in some areas of the world... but strive for lower price and better service. don't let the mechanics screw you... remember your trying to screw them.

remember be a courteous driver and always look both ways before crossing the street

Havanaman
08-07-03, 19:05
Cumonher,

Very good analogy. How right you are; your calculations are right on! Very enjoyable read.

Regards, Havanaman

Boulder Co Guy
05-24-04, 20:44
I would like to agree with Wordup on his points in a previous post.

1) Dont just hand out a bunch of cash when you dont know what your getting, no matter how good looking the girl is. Often times it the flashy ones that dont provide good service. I always negotiate 10 or 20 less than I want to pay, then if I get good service, i can tip them, most appreciate this.

2) Treat the girls with respect. Girls that like you will provide better service and soemtimes do you a favor. Once when I lived in Dallas a girl had me use the money I was going to pay her to get a room, not much left over for her, but she liked me. Many other times when lucky enough to visit the same girl more than once we spent as much time as I had available with no complaints. I have gotten some of the best service from repeat girls for 20 bucks.

This doesnt mean be a chump either, I let the bossy and/or paraniod/crazy ones out right away. I dont take them anywhere or get them anything until our business is done and if i do, only within reason.

Happy hunting!

bubbagump69
08-26-04, 03:58
Here is my experience on prices:

SW in US - 20 -40 for BBBJ, FS 40-75
AMP in US - 140 for FS

Cheapest = Brazil 15 for FS
Easiest once you know the system - Korea 70 FS

Mr. Mac
09-15-04, 23:14
Cumonher,

I was just browsing the other areas of the group and noticed your great analogy of 'the life' and I have to say that it was ON TIME!!!!! It was inciteful, full of good info and to the point. Its surely a great guide to finding and negotiating with a future mechanic.

Keep them comin!!!

PEACE,

Mr. Mac

Love The Ladies
10-05-04, 06:01
Within INdia, prices for 1 hour go for $6 up to $100.
Full night is: $20-$300.
The difference is better quality sex for cheaper money but the more expensive look better.

WordUp
10-05-04, 06:55
HERE IN CINCINNATI, OHIO

The going rate varies from $20 - $100. Even on the streets I have seen that range. As far as Escorts, look for $75 - 250 at the high end. That is according to looks, and your Judgement of What is Hot. Mostly I do the streets for now, and it is running a little higher than normal because so few decent one are out and they know this. Even the crackheads are asking $40-50 for F/S. No damn way. TA decent Crackhead that I "Might " use will get no more than $20 w/maybe a $5 tip, if good. I very rarely do crackheads, and that is what is mainly out. I go for the Clubs/Bar girls mainly. That is the corner bars, and a few of the Main Street Clubs. Don't think College, and Work-a-day girl won't accept a few dollars under the table. Especially when they kinda know you, and you are buying the drinks. Learn to spot those girls who are willing, as those who just want their drinks paid for.

TOO MANY, men are paying too much for everything and that is driving all prices up. If you read my post, I rarely pay top dollars even for the Decent Good Looking Ones. Amazingly when you don't they will bargain a better price for you budget. "ALMOST ALWAYS !" It is your MONEY, and you have to call the SHOTS. That is why Big Spenders are always getting Ripped-Off. Don't paid the full price upfront with an unknown, and ask what you will get up front, and for how long you will get it. Is that one nut or two.

And if you take any pictures you will have to pay more with most girls. Limit your payment to just $15-20 more and try to shot at least #15-30 pictures. Shot them w/ & w/out clothes and a few full lenght to get a full body idea of the girl. Most won't do faces, so don't worry about it.

If you go outside of the USA, read all the post. Read rvrn the archivred post, and the new. The quality is better, cheaper, and a far greater variety. And alway take your own condoms. USA condom are far superior than anyone elses, and get with Nox-9 inside and outside the condom. Take a Lube bottle of Nox-9 with you, in your travels even at home. It kills the AIDS virus on contact.

WORD

Johnny Darko
10-23-04, 11:43
Was killing an hour or two by surfing on threads which I do not usually frequent. What is Lube bottle of Nox-9 ? Is this only available in America as I am European?
Moreover, I agree in keeping prices down. Strangely enough when I am firm with my money I tend to get more respect and better quality sex. I admit that sometimes I will not have enough time on my hand due to wifey problem or else am in a country for the first time and do overpay. In most cases, here, I notice that they treat me as a kind of sugar daddy which is content with everything if you know what I mean - the result is hurried hurried sex until, of course, I decide to run in my normal gear.
Anyhow, keep it up and, if you can, justtell me what Lube bottle of Nox-9 is

Cheers,

Johnny

WordUp
11-03-04, 16:47
WELL, Nox-9, IS on your lubes or condoms "Kills the AIDS Virus" on contact, the way Bleach kills mold and mildrew. You can buy iy from Johnson & Johnson Products, or any SEX item web site. or do a Google search. The web site. It is "NOT" on every condom which it should be. You will have to buy it with it. I know is www.ky.com or go to your favorrite Condom web site. You can even get them to send you a "FREE" tube of warming lube. Good stuff, for SEX.

Rodman 2
03-26-05, 01:49
Recent trip around Texas allowed me to survey pries both from direct experience of negotiations and spontaneous offers.

SW PRICES

Standard price is a Jackson for a BJ, 10 for a HJ..

Cheaper is almost always available if business is slow. 11 am is a good time. Or midafternnon. When action is slow prices go down. Under these circumstances a BJ for 10 or a HJ for 5 is often possible. Also FS for 10 or a Jackson can be available.

Looks are not always proportial to price nor are BSW or HSW nessecarlily cheaper than WSW. Nor is it so that druggies will take less. In my experince a SW who like a dozen or more beers a day will often be interested in ten because that's what she needs for a dozen whereas a hit may be a Jackson.

Price for FS seems to be more variable 30 to 40 is often acceptable, with BJ thrown in. Price quotes often seem to reflect how much the SW enjoys FS, how busy she is, and wether its in a room or your car.

NEGOTIATIONS

I hide my wallet in the car and take the max I'm prepared to spend and split it up into 2 or more folded rolls and secret them in different places on my person such as in the side of my shoes.

After I establish they are not LE I begin negotiations. I like to find SW with DDD boobs spilling out of their blouse. (unlikely to pass the LE Academy fitness requirements) I first lowball andwatch response. If she says "I dont know" she is looking for more but is probably willing to accept the offer. If you aren't as interested as you thought use this to bail. If you want to go ahead the say "thats all I have tonight". After I say that I try to stick to my initial offer. After I get service if its good I will often tip up to standard price or promise (and deliver standard price on next encounter.

This strategy avoids overpaying for poor service. I always pay up front as a sign of good faith unless Its a regular girl who is confident that I'm going to treat her right. Some times you will miss out on a woman you want by employing my strategy but your average price will be so low you will have money for more action. Also that hot SW who wants $100 one day can sometimes be had for a Jackson a week later when things are slow and she needs money for rent or whatever.

I never ask a SW to quote a price. Some do but I never ask. When you ask most will quote prices way more than they expect. I have been quoted 50 by a BSW who later gave me service for 5 after I told her thats what I had.


LONG TERM PRICE TRENDS

The long term trend is that SW prices are slowly falling. I say this because prices for SW have essentially remained constant over last 20 years. During this time inflation has devalued the Jackson considerably.

Motown Man
04-09-05, 08:57
My experience is -

$20 will get you a BBBJ - sometime 1/2 & 1/2, or CFS.
$30-$40 will definitely get you 1/2 & 1/2 or CFS.

Never paid more than this - have occassionally paid less.

Motown Man
04-09-05, 08:58
In Newark, you can get BBBJ with AR for $20 - sometimes less.

I miss Newark!

Jim Rob
04-11-05, 00:59
The prices in my area DC are getting to High at the AMP's. I wanted to know what the prices are in the other places. AMP's are now around 50 to 60 half hour and 80 for and hour and the girls now are asking about 60 just for a HJ

Azz Warrior
04-11-05, 01:34
Dear brothers:

Based on the places I visit, the rates at several MPs go like this:

1/2 hour = $40 to $50 depending on location and if you have a coupon.
1 hour = $60 to $80 depending on location and if you have a coupon.

Now, those rates are just to "get in" the MP. Once I'm inside I usually tip the girl according to her service as follows:

HJ = $20
BJ = $40
FS = $60

In total, it costs me about $100 for FS. And I will not pay more than that unless the girl looks like Britney Spears or has a Jennifer Lopez ass.

I know of other brothers who tip the girls more than that. To each their own.

AW

Bill Bradsky
06-27-05, 00:26
It amazes me that ordinary looking Asian women can get 80 to 160 per hour in the USA who could not make 20 USD a day in their own country. Considering this income is tax free cash it is no wonder so many are trying to get into the US.

I can't think of any unskilled job a man could do to make 80, much less 160 USD per hour tax free.

There are many providers in the US who make well in excess of $100,000 per year tax free.

The idea put forth that these women are victims is just nonsense. They often have new cars and nice houses and are not being forced to do anything they don't want to do. I think it is more likely that men in the US are the real victims.

In other parts of the world the quality is much better and the price is much cheaper.

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bluishballs
07-08-05, 14:11
It's said to cause lesions in the vagina, so if you want to use that Nox-9 condom, be sure to let the girl know. If you have some kind of disease, it can get through the condom and into that lesion since the lesions don't heal up that quick. (Lesions don't happen in all cases)

bluishballs
07-08-05, 14:15
Does this usually work? If I offer $60 for fs and the girl says no, can I get up and pretend to leave, which may cause the girl to change her mind since she's only there to make money.

USTraveller
07-09-05, 20:55
At a MP or Spa style location, you typically pay for the legal part of the service up front. So if negotiations for extras don't go well, you can pretend to leave to get a better price, as if you are in a car dealership. However, if you do leave, you are essentially giving up the time you already paid for.

Keep in mind that you can over-negotiate and under-pay. I'd rather pay $80-100 for FS and have her eager to perform and do a good job, aka a GFE. If you negotiate down to a rate she's not comfortable with, she'll still do it for the money but may seem more mechanical and you may not enjoy it enough.

It's amazing how consistent the pricing is among these establishments, so they must communicate in some way. There is room for negotiations, and maybe you'll get lucky and get a good price and good service. There are other factors such as how busy they are and how much competition they have, so keep those in mind too.

Good luck and believe me, I want prices to come down too, but not at the cost of good service.

-USTraveller

stoxnbonds
07-16-05, 22:11
Gents,

This is off-topic for a discussion of pricing, but it's too important to not post it here.

TIP: Don't get your medical information from posters on USASG. Especially on irreversible conditions like immunodeficiency.

The US Congress commissioned an investigation into Nonoxynol 9 and the topic of microbial prophylaxis and published this report:

http://www.global-campaign.org/clientfiles/GAO_report_0405.pdf

The bottom-line is that N-9 is an effective spermicide. As a prophylactic versus bacteriological STDs like chlamydia and gonnorhea -- inconclusive. HIV prophylaxis -- Inconclusive.

Never believe anything until you google it twice.

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Safe Sex topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

NutHang
08-26-05, 13:23
Street prices in Portland/ Seattle have taken a jump in recent years. The problem is too many "young attorney" yuppie types have ruined the market by over tipping and gladly paying outrageous prices... I think this is true of California as well. Over the past 10+ years rates have doubled in Nevada brothels also.

All of this, plus Internet escorts (typical $250 hour FS) has changed the street rate: BBBJ now .40 - .80 and CFS now .60 - 1.20 and you will find the wannabee escorts trying to get even higher rates on street. Some of those are lookers, too.

Among the lower range, are those with various habits (crack, crank, chiva, or booze) remember the cost of a dime bag, is still a dime. So if willing to settle for that... a lower rate can be negotiated. Same with BBW providers. However the younger more attractive types, and those with pimps, are demanding rates as quoted above. Often will not move, or agree to the lower range at all :(

Seems like a Benjamin has become the "standard rate" for CFS, half hour, from attractive provider on Craigs List or street. Sorry to report.

Best Tx Monger
08-29-05, 23:31
Golden Eyes has come to the National forum to willingly admitt that prices in Texas, specifically speaking Dallas-Fort Worth, have taken a nose dive from MY personal experience. I do not know whether mongering miles are being limited by the recent inflation of gas prices.

With gas prices escalating to almost $3 for unleaded I do not know if current market prices will hold up. I know that I will have to re-visit my mongering habit.

Prices here are anywhere from $40-$80 for FS. You can expect to pay a Benjamin for a top of the line breed out on the street. Once again, despite gas prices rising, I have not notice significant price increase worth mentioning.

On the other hand, if you want an escort you can expect to pay $150-$200 for a mut but $250-$300 if you want a throughbred. In the future, I would not really expect prices in private sector unless you have an outcall. My .98 cents.

Regards,

-007

Ttbearhug
12-04-05, 07:19
After many years, and I do mean many.

The price is always what the drug of choice cost.

Most if not all will do BBBJCIM for 20

A few will demand 25-30, offer the 20 and promiise tip for good service.

FS, that is about 40-50

Motel for a few hours, I will give them the room and a few $$$

ALWAYS PAY CASH FOR THE ROOM

Best Tx Monger
01-09-06, 11:12
Has anyone noticed that prices go down during the winter time. Or at least in Texas that is the case. Usually for a very good sw, you can spend $ .8 but right now you can get a thoroughbred for$ .6 .

Was wondering if this was the case in others states and cities, or just something that is just local, or perhaps unique in this demography.

-007

PsyberZombie
01-31-06, 07:15
Inner·resting reading for you Escort Lovers =

A consumer guide to prostitutes (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10879309/)

p.s. Many Thanks to fellow Monger Three X , who originally posted this Link over on the Orange County Board

Speck
03-13-06, 03:43
Los Angeles pricing:

Homeless crack ho on San Pedro st.(note: This will be as disgusting as it can possibly get)

BBBJ $5 FS(god help you) $10

Normal crack ho downtown Los Angeles, Fig, PCH:

BBBJ $20-30, FS $25-60

Below average pimped girl OR independent girl working known pimp tracks(Sunset, Western/Beverly, Sepulveda, hottie gallery on fig):

CBJ $30-40, FS $50-70

Full on pimped hottie:

CBJ $40-60...note that a lot of these girls will turn down $40 if they are really hot...FS $80-120, typical being $100.

Las Vegas prices:

Downtown or Boulder Hwy crack ho:

BBBJ $10-30 depending on look & addiction level....FS $20-80 same standards.

3am in front of Flamingo:

CBJ $100, FS $200

3am in middle range strip casinos(Luxor, MGM, etc)

CBJ $100, FS $200(note CBJ may not be available and the girls will usually quote $300-500 for fs, but come down to $200 real quick. Also note that some people have tried negotiating down below $200, with very rushed service as a result)

Bellagio, Ceasars, etc high end bar girls....

CBJ - Not available
FS - $500 to skys the limit.

Member #4186
09-30-06, 18:58
I'm surprised that this thread has languished as long as it has. Maybe my post will spark new discussion.

I've experienced the Tampa scene, though it has been five years. Back then, the place for service was what was nominally a "lingerie modeling studio." It worked roughly like a more typical Asian Massage Parlor, a.k.a. AMP, except that no massage was offered, nor did anyone give pretense to offer it. The usual experience went as follows:

entry: .2$ to .5$
Fallacious Stratocaster: about $ to $.5 for tip

Depending on the girl, the studio, and the client's level of drunkenness, you could therefore get Frumpy Slingshot for about $$ or less total out-of-pocket. Many of the girls were worth the investment in this Flapjack Scalawag, in terms of appearance attitude and interaction. I tended to spend total $$.5, give or take.

At one of the (many) strip clubs, you'd get a lap dance with full-straddle "Tampa style" (which is essentially identical to "Houston style" or "Toronto style") lappers for $20 a song, though that has increased to an average of about $25 a song, some places / dancers nowadays charging more and some holding to the old standard. At some of these clubs, after other entry fees to private back rooms you could experience various Crockery Hologram Junctions or Better-Business Harp Jinglings for maybe $. Steep. Plus for $$$ with a select few you might get the coveted Fancy Schmancy.

I do not generally patronize Straight Winkers and wasn't a regular on driving zones. I know that girls who looked 60 years old, but were actually 18 years old, thanks to various stimulating substances directed into blood streams, all hovered along the Nebraska Avenue stroll. I hear that the low Los Angeles prices (reported below) were basically available as the norm in Tampa too.

In Jackson Mississippi, there are very very few driving opportunities. Once in a while someone reports something going on along Highway 80, where I've confirmed that .2$ can get you whatever you'd like, if you can find a 60-year-old. I mean, an 18-year-old who is likely to look 60 years old.

There aren't any AMPs in Jackson, Mississippi. Seems sort of odd. There is one place that operates similarly, but with African-American women, so I guess you could call it an A-AMP :), but there are no women who know how to give massage or table shower or any of the other things that SHOULD go along with such an experience. For a city its size, Jackson is very low on the Vicious Criminy scale relative to other national opportunities.

I know that the internet has changed, to a great degree, the reliability but also the price of actual escorting. Now you don't rely on business cards posted in phone booths any more, unless you're foolish; or even, on the many ads in the yellow pages. But there's little reason to discuss internet ladies' prices here, since they have web pages that make it pretty much clear.

I'd say, mostly, I'm surprised at how low the prices have remained over the last few decades in some areas, particularly given the degree of internet saturation and the ready availability of information and therefore greater independence for many of the ladies. Strewn Wranglers still charge such minimal rates that there can hardly be anything less. We almost don't have bills that small in this country!

Double Nickle
10-03-06, 18:25
At the American AMPs I've tried pricing seems to be fairly standard, but to vary a bit depending on the location and whether it is Korean, Chinese, or Japanese. At the only Japanese MP I've tried yet, I was asked for $70 for the massage which included table shower. HJ was given without soliciting further money, but I voluntarily tipped in line with Korean and Chinese MPs.

A Chinese Massage Parlor in Philadelphia charged $80 up front. I got to wash myself in a stand up shower, use of a sauna, a great massage, and that's it. I wasn't pressured for any tip, but as my wallet was secured in a locker elsewhere on the premises, my money wasn't available anyway. I suspect known customers can get HR. House fee at New York City CMPs I've tried has been $40-$50. I went 10 minutes over at one clockwatching (but recommended) place and was charged another $10. The Chinese girls I've seen don't seem to want to talk about tipping scales, but at one place the girl awkwardly seemed to indicate that a tip equal to the house fee of $40 was expected. I had received massage, HR, roaming up top, and titsucking, so this seemed a bargain. I handed her a $100 bill, keep the change, and got astonishing service next time. Another reviewer with the same girl at the same place tipped only $30 and reported terrible service from her the next time.

I am most familiar with Korean Massage Parlors. The commonest house fee is $60. I have found this in Philadelphia, Connecticut, and Providence. One place in Philadelphia only charged me $50. Newspaper ads sometimes have a $10 or $15 off coupon. I get FS which has usually been available. One cautious girl would only do HR the first time, for which she wanted $60. The FS she gave me the second time for $100 was a much better deal. Another lady elsewhere in Connecticut only offered HJ or BJ. I got the latter for $80. I've found $100 FS widely in Connecticut and Philadelphia. Sometimes a girl at the same place would want another $20. $140 is the most I've found expected at a Korean Massage Parlor.

Lately more KMPs have wanted everything up front, $160 or $200. Usually the house fee or combo house fee/tip is asked for without any discussion of time involved. Sessions generally seem to run an hour, or almost an hour.

Fission06
11-26-06, 22:04
Prices for Las Vegas AMPs:

30 min = .50
1 Hour = .70
TS = $

For a HJ, it's generally .80-$. It's very expensive here in Vegas. I don't know about anything more than a HJ because I have yet to find one that does more than that.

Double Nickle
12-05-06, 14:28
$0 feel test, includes some hj,bj, seeing the goods, fingering the engine
$1-10 hj
$10-20 bj
$20-40 full
$20-60 greek lessons
I've seen USASexGuide posters who claim that gorgeous AMP girls not only give them free sex, but buy them restaurant dinners, designer clothes, etc. It is probably true but I don't ever expect it to happen to me.

At the AMPs the least I've paid lately is $100 total for HJ. $80 is the normal price, but in addition to HJ I got DFK, UTC roaming up top, sucking on tit, and a great massage from a beautiful young lady.

I've gotten BBBJ at an AMP for total $120.

Recently I've had AMP FS for $140 total.

By going for less than an hour or leaving no tip or a small tip one can get services for less than these prices. But if a low end provider isn't that busy and has legal and other high expenses I don't think they really make all that much money. I do not believe in shortchanging them.

On the other hand, I don't like to pay more than $200 even for great FS and all the amenities. I do, after all, have a budget myself. I have paid $300 total for FS at a Manhattan AMP. It was a great experience with a super hottie, but I probably won't go back soon.

Posters talk about getting a PSE (Porn Star Experience) at a regular massage parlor or escort service. For $300 you can get together with an authentic pornstar who does escort service - a young hot looking one if the web ads are accurate.

Upper end "VIP" or "Celebrity" escorts, often described as "Visiting" will often run $1,000 to $1,600 an hour. I seem to remember some even higher. They may have appeared in top men's magazines and/or pornographic movies. They will often advertise under a regular double barrelled name like the luscious Mimi Miyagi at $1,500 an hour. Or they may be famous enough to be recognised by a single name, like Keisha at $1,500 an hour. I had the opportunity to meet Keisha at a stripclub once. Besides being sexy and beautiful, she was extremely nice and friendly.

At $1,600 an hour, a year would cost you over 14 million dollars. A lifetime would put a dent in a billionaire's pocketbook. Fortunately there are packages. You can get an overnight experience with "The Lover" in Los Angeles for only $5,000. A 24 hour day with Joanna DiCarlo will only cost $9,000. Brittney Lane advertises a year of exclusive companionship for $1.25 million. Remind me to buy a lottery ticket tomorrow.

Double Nickle

Member #4186
12-06-06, 13:24
I've seen USASexGuide posters who claim that gorgeous AMP girls not only give them free sex, but buy them restaurant dinners, designer clothes, etc. It is probably true but I don't ever expect it to happen to me.
I don't even think these statements are "probably true." It's amazing to me to fathom, but I do genuinely believe that even anonymously and on the internet with people they'll never meet and even when discussing paid providers, many men are so insecure about their masculinity that they feel they have to bluster to boost their own self-esteem.


At the AMPs the least I've paid lately is $100 total for HJ. $80 is the normal price, but in addition to HJ I got DFK, UTC roaming up top, sucking on tit, and a great massage from a beautiful young lady.

I've gotten BBBJ at an AMP for total $120.

Recently I've had AMP FS for $140 total.I agree with your general pricing. In the New Orleans area, things are mildly more expensive, with a $20 or so boosted up over the prices you've mentioned. But I almost never go over $200 for the whole thing, room fee and massage and table-shower and all other services and afters tip combined. In Houston there are regularly advertised "special" prices, one-fee-covers-all, and I've found that the AMPs (and a few non-Asian flop-house-style jernts) tend to agree to their advertisements, if not those of competitors. Some day a wise-en-heimer will figure out that he can just say, "We honor all competitors coupons!" and we'll have a REAL buyers' market! :)

More on prices here. At nearly every AMP I've ever encountered, the "room fee" tends to be $60, and I'm not convinced that they demand it for any reason other than to see whether or not you've got a wad of cash in your pocket. I try to "flash" some $20s (not a lot! don't want to get rolled!) when ponying up the room fee, merely to let the girl and Mama-san know that I'm going to pay for more than just a room.


By going for less than an hour or leaving no tip or a small tip one can get services for less than these prices. But if a low end provider isn't that busy and has legal and other high expenses I don't think they really make all that much money. I do not believe in shortchanging them.

On the other hand, I don't like to pay more than $200 even for great FS and all the amenities. I do, after all, have a budget myself. I have paid $300 total for FS at a Manhattan AMP. It was a great experience with a super hottie, but I probably won't go back soon.I'm in a funny psychological zone, when it comes to how much I pay a provider. One response is, that I get all desperate and annoyed with myself, and have feelings of inadequacy and weakness (why am I not Caesar by now! I am well into middle age but I am not conquering France yet!) about my own "empire" of accomplishments, if I end up paying more than about $250 for a single, one-hour full-service provider experience. Another odd emotional response is, that I am willing to blow a general average of about $100 per hour (in bits and chunks) on strippers, if you count the cost of drinks, lap-dances, other services, and overall party money, through the course of an evening. I might spend three hours hanging out and spending almost nothing, and then $250 on a back-room experience that involves something like hand-job or even (rarely, for strip-clubbing) full-service, but the average generally comes out to just over $100 per hour. Somehow, more than that feels "wrong" and less than that feels "boring." And yet another response is, that if I spend LESS than $75 for an experience that finishes me off, I feel somehow dirty and undervalued, as though I have cheapened myself.

I don't know where these feelings come from, and they are obviously strangely subjective and really bear no relation to "true" market conditions or my own desirability and value as a human. But I do know enough to know, that I don't want to be blowing $300 an hour on an internet-based call-girl, not because she will or won't do what I want or look as good as I need her to look, but more because I don't want the hit to my self-esteem. I don't want to be "taken advantage of" by her and her pricing.


Posters talk about getting a PSE (Porn Star Experience) at a regular massage parlor or escort service. For $300 you can get together with an authentic pornstar who does escort service - a young hot looking one if the web ads are accurate.

Upper end "VIP" or "Celebrity" escorts, often described as "Visiting" will often run $1,000 to $1,600 an hour. I seem to remember some even higher. They may have appeared in top men's magazines and/or pornographic movies. They will often advertise under a regular double barrelled name like the luscious Mimi Miyagi at $1,500 an hour. Or they may be famous enough to be recognised by a single name, like Keisha at $1,500 an hour. I had the opportunity to meet Keisha at a stripclub once. Besides being sexy and beautiful, she was extremely nice and friendly.

At $1,600 an hour, a year would cost you over 14 million dollars. A lifetime would put a dent in a billionaire's pocketbook. Fortunately there are packages. You can get an overnight experience with "The Lover" in Los Angeles for only $5,000. A 24 hour day with Joanna DiCarlo will only cost $9,000. Brittney Lane advertises a year of exclusive companionship for $1.25 million. Remind me to buy a lottery ticket tomorrow.

Double NickleIndeed, the mere act of shopping around from the base of any major North American metropolitan area can find plenty of girls-next-door who act like raving banshees in the sack, and generally the less "glamourous" or "vogue" they (and their website designs) look, the more likely they'll be "personable" and therefore willing to please, in terms of both direct service and interpersonal "style" and friendliness. The genuinely touching experiences are definitely available, but usually you have to drop down from the highest of high-end markets, into the middle-end -- heh :) -- to find that better level of service. The tippy-top, and the marginally top, and even the aspiring-to-be-top, providers, are much lower than the satsified-with-not-being-the-top girls.

So, basically, I think those thousand-bucks-an-hour girls aren't looking for dates or Johns or companionship or a quick exchange of service-for-money. They're looking for idiots.

Snake27
01-04-07, 14:42
I live in the USA where, as everyone here knows, prostitution is a disaster. In nearly all cities where I've travelled I haven't seen any street workers worth picking up in over 10 years; it seems the only ones left are those too desperate to avoid the constant police harrassment. So the SW price is infinite for me. And I've never been willing to shell out $200 to $300 for eros.com. More power to you guys with that kind money, but I just resign myself to the thought that those eros girls are out of my league. craigslist (CL) is a little cheaper, but still $150 is usually too much for me to call someone out of the blue who will most likely end up providing a lousy experience. The most I'm willing to do is an AMP ($40 for 1/2 hour room, $100 tip) and only about once or twice a year. AMP service is usually good.

I did have an interesting experience with a semi-pro that illustrates the business in America. I picked this girl up in a bar about 2 years ago and we had a fling. She was pretty and young (about 1/2 my age) and I was her sugar daddy. I didn't pay much ($80 per visit). We had a lot of fun, were friendly, and had dinner together sometimes. But one day during dinner I noticed her phone flashing every 3 minutes (she was polite enough not to answer). I found out a week or so later that she had decided to advertise on CL. Well, she became a lot harder to contact and stood me up 4 or 5 times. Apparently there are a lot of doctors, lawyers, and Captains of Industry out there willing to pay twice what I was. Very sad. I finally gave up on her, although she did call me a couple times to recover -- I was polite and made some excuses. Like they say, money can't buy love but it can buy a good approximation. If the price is right.

Hizark21
01-04-07, 20:13
I am not sure where you have been looking, but good SW's can be found if you are patient. The key is to get a SW's ph# so you can see her on a regular basis. Since you travel it's much harder since SW's ph#'s go bad so fast. This is why it's important to work together.

Snake27
01-04-07, 22:35
Hizark, it probably depends on the city, as well as one's standards. E.g. one factor influencing me lately is that I tend to seek more of a GFE, something that's very hard to find among girls doing a high volume. And it's hard to find in any case, but I'm patient and enjoy the hunt.

On another note, I was thinking that the reason the prices in the USA are so high generally is that prostitution is illegal and the laws are heavily enforced. We have basically a puritanical anti-sex police state here, though I hasten to add that I otherwise love the USA. A lot of girls are afraid to advertise themself. They fear stings that occassionally happen on eros or CL. This reduces the supply of girls which increases the price -- simple economics. In Germany, where the sex trade is legal, the supply is higher and the prices lower. Having said that, I don't begrudge the girls their prices. They should get whatever the market will bear. If they can find some rich fool to shell out $500, that's cool with me.

Member #4186
01-07-07, 15:57
It's funny how, here in the good ol' US of A, we have this strange come-here go-away attitude toward sexuality. For example, the Britney / Aguilera girls are constantly displaying overt acts of sexual desirability, to the extent that many religiously conservative nations ban their rock videos and exhort their young men and women to look away from the "sinful West."

But in those same foreign countries, generally, it's not particularly difficult or expensive to find a "normal" experience with what would amount to a prostitute, at a cheap enough rate that their average middle-class male worker can afford it about twice a month and at a level of enforcement that makes the risk of police action almost negligible.

Sure, different countries have different levels of prostitute availability, and some extremely conservative lands have essentially elminated it. But basically the USA is the most sexually liberal in the SHOW of sexuality, relative to the real level of genuinely AVAILABLE sexuality. The Saudis say, "No sex!" and mean it. The Indians say, "Sure, sex!" and mean it. The Philippinos say, "Umm, sex maybe!" and mean it. The Americans say, "No sex!" and then prance around naked on TV, create the VCR porn revolution, and invent the internet. Weird.

So, to have all this internet and MTV and ads for escorts all over the phone booths, on the one hand; and then to make it illegal and to enforce against it more than, essentially, nearly every other country in the world? What gives?

Hypocrisy, obviously; and a Puritanical heritage unfortunately interfered with from the good ol' free market; and (I hasten to add) morbid obesity and extremely materialistic anti-sexual hysteria among the younger women.

Frankly, I think it's the young women. Ever been to Denmark? People are fucking -- and fucking STRANGERS often! -- right and left. And they're educated, decent folk, not taking undue risks, playing by "the relationship rules" enough. Not in the USA. If most of our American young-adult and middle-aged men were getting boned by hotties (or married to women who were sexually adventuresome), would the market for prostitutes on the internet be what it is in the USA?

I have heard, often, that men are "supposed" to not settle for a sexually frigid woman. That we have CHOICE in whom we have congress with. But really, when do we have the option, here in the USA, of being the chooser? Beggars can't be ...

Snake27
01-09-07, 20:28
Book Guy, you make some good points, though I'm not too sure about your last two paragraphs. I don't think you can blame the USA situation primarily on women. The men here are rather conservative/religious, and many of them support anti-prostitution law. Probably the allowance of "tease" is a free speech issue. They'd stop porno, including the very softcore junk on TV, if they could.

Anyway, in a weird way the strong enforcement of prostitution laws has helped me. I used to live in Europe. Years ago when I visited a big European city (especially in Germany) I would be like a kid in a candy store and I spent WAY too much. Ever been to an FKK ? But nowadays I just look at the escort ads and say "that's nice, but too bad it's so expensive". And I can get it for free -- not from a stripclub hottie, but from an "ordinary" woman my own age, so I'm not desperate to pay those prices, though as I said I sometimes visit an AMP. I prefer to save my money for when I travel to another country, which happens mostly on business. Then it's an adventure and the prices are more reasonable too.

Hizark21
01-09-07, 23:40
I can't believe that more mongers are not willing to help keep prices down. A lot of fools pay $80 or $60 for a bj. They just don't seem to understand that you can get 2 bj's if they hold out.

BJ prices in SD is $30-$40.
Facials with bj: $30-60. A good negotiating tactic is too start low and offer $10 or $20 for a facial. Most SW's will start off with $40, I then counter offer with $30 for bj plus $10 or possibly $20 for a facial. This negotiating tactic works very well. In many cases you will have trouble convincing the SW. I generally tell the SW that they are getting a extra $10 for a few minutes of grossness. 80% of the time the SW will go for the offer..

Benchseats Rock
01-10-07, 00:46
I can't believe that more mongers are not willing to help keep prices down. A lot of fools pay $80 or $60 for a bj. They just don't seem to understand that you can get 2 bj's if they hold out.

BJ prices in SD is $30-$40.
Facials with bj: $30-60. A good negotiating tactic is too start low and offer $10 or $20 for a facial. Most SW's will start off with $40, I then counter offer with $30 for bj plus $10 or possibly $20 for a facial. This negotiating tactic works very well. In many cases you will have trouble convincing the SW. I generally tell the SW that they are getting a extra $10 for a few minutes of grossness. 80% of the time the SW will go for the offer..



Tell me about it.

Baltimore prices are $20 for a BBBJ / $40 for FS and you can tip if you want, but never more than a $10. Some if not all at one point will say they get more, all will go for these standard prices - more than occasionally you can get FS for $30 if not for less.


Benchseats Rock

Hizark21
01-10-07, 06:48
I am just amazed how much cheaper the prices are in east and mid west. A lot of it is because there is less good WSW's in the past 3 or 4 years. Most of the good SW's are from out of town in San Diego. The other factor is that there is a lot less crack SW's than there used to be.

It's one thing to pay $30 or $40, but I can't believe some fools are willing to pay $60 or $80. Personally I just say no.

Member #4186
01-10-07, 13:35
Fools? I'm regularly paying $150 to $200 for a single pop at an Asian massage / lingerie type place. Or $300 and up to ferret my way through strip club vagaries, meeting girls, drinking, finding one who looks good enough for the lapper, trying to find one who will offer something in the back room or outside the club, etc. etc. Fools? It's just the market.

Then again, maybe we're fools to let the market determine our sexual wellbeing.

Member #4186
01-20-07, 20:40
Book Guy, you make some good points, though I'm not too sure about your last two paragraphs. I don't think you can blame the USA situation primarily on women. ... etc.Snake: good points. I understand your point about puritanical and religious men -- I have been, many times in my life, surrounded by them! -- but I still think the "root cause" is women, and their response to materialism. It's not really an arguable proposition, just a gut feeling. I came to this belief through participation in the Club H discussion boards, where men pointed out that even a girl from a "traditional" culture who is brought to America will (and quite quickly, too!) convert to a "suburban frigid housewife" because of material desires. Evidently it has something to do with fingernail manicures ...

Anyway, whatever the "root cause," the USA has an odd resistance to letting men get off their rocks. I want to get my rocks off more often, but I live in the USA. I think we should change the culture around us. Complaining about it is a first step. An ineffectual one, yes, but a first one none the less. :)

Master76
02-05-07, 20:03
Recently used http://www.gia.com.ua

Here are the prices:

1 hour $110
2 hours $160,
3 hours $200
4 hours $240,
6 hours $280,
8 hours $320,
10 hours $360,
12 hours $400,
1 day $500,
2 days $900

Baltimonger
04-14-07, 23:19
I live with a SW who has moved on to posting with CL. She has gone from $20-60 dates to nothing less than $100. Even when her posts ask for $70-80, guys still routinely pay her anywhere from $100-500 at a time. I don't know why anyone would pay out this kind of money for sex, but I have theories:
The typical CL, and other web sites hunter is not willing to spend time hunting for poon on skid row; may be long on cash, but short on time, such as the manager or CEO who wants a quick hook up without the missus knowing; may be from out of town on business, and is playing with the company's money; or may not have areas to hunt, or at least doesn't know about them.

Her take tonight:
2 dates. $650 total, including a 1 minute BBBJ. One out-of towner, and another who lives too far away from the SW loops.

AmIaCriminal2
04-25-07, 11:43
"Sure, different countries have different levels of prostitute availability, and some extremely conservative lands have essentially elminated it. But basically the USA is the most sexually liberal in the SHOW of sexuality, relative to the real level of genuinely AVAILABLE sexuality. The Saudis say, "No sex!" and mean it. The Indians say, "Sure, sex!" and mean it. The Philippinos say, "Umm, sex maybe!" and mean it. The Americans say, "No sex!" and then prance around naked on TV, create the VCR porn revolution, and invent the internet. Weird."...My guess is it is government population controll. If you notice how our culture is being fueled first by the entrance of crack and rap and Affirmative Action, it places the average young womans idea of a succesful man looking nothing like me. Add in welfare and child support to a woman it appears that your average American Male is being regulated out of existance, and if an average joe does get to have sex a few times, then he can be enslaved for the next 20 years through child support, and that even leads to the divorce incidence in this country with silly excuses like "I don't love him anymore".

It is my opinion that it is basically illegal for a man to need sex from women in this country.

Mighty Max
05-20-07, 13:46
It is my opinion that it is basically illegal for a man to need sex from women in this country.
This statement is perhaps the most true statement I have read in a week.

Redsox2005
05-31-07, 04:34
Northwest Florida I have never paid more than $20 for a CBJ. This is in the last 3 years. I once picked up a girl who said her mom was in jail and trying to raise money, she actually only asked for $10. So it was a deal. Saw her the next day for the exact same thing. Unbelievable.

Big Red50
06-01-07, 10:08
If you pick up a SW in Balmer prior to sexing her you have to play several rounds of R U A Cop. There are several answers to the question, I will not recommend an answer, because on a previous Balmer-General Reports Post #2225 dated 10/24/06, I got my ass flamed good for having an opinion Hon.
Ok, that is the information, now for instructions, don’t you Mongers fuck up the SW tuition system while you are here Hon. Here are Balmer rates if you Monger please adhere to these Hon.

• BBBJ One jack if CIM or swallow you may tip a nickel Hon.
• BBBJ and CFS half and half, 2 jacks, again if there is CIM, swallow or anal you may tip no more than one half jack to one jack Hon. That’s not one and a half jacks only one half of a jack Hon.
• If the SW provides a room you may up tuition one half jack Hon.

Thanks Hon

Big Red from Balmer

Ho Watcher
08-21-07, 20:55
Book Guy, you make some good points, though I'm not too sure about your last two paragraphs. I don't think you can blame the USA situation primarily on women. The men here are rather conservative/religious, and many of them support anti-prostitution law. Probably the allowance of "tease" is a free speech issue. They'd stop porno, including the very softcore junk on TV, if they could.I posted a report on one of the Baltimore threads that might shed some light on how commercial sex in the USA got the way it is. Rather than repost the whole thing, here is the link.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=551439#post551439

Okaynow 2001
11-27-07, 10:20
Is it illegal just to pick one up?

Most of the time when they get in the car, I will talk about everything else except sex. A cop wont ride in a car with a stranger. A pro wont say anything until she get out of the area.

If a cop sees me pick up a pro, and later stops us (assuming no drugs, weapons, etc in the car) what can he do?

Sitting BS
05-04-08, 12:49
Is it illegal just to pick one up?

Most of the time when they get in the car, I will talk about everything else except sex. A cop wont ride in a car with a stranger. A pro wont say anything until she get out of the area.

If a cop sees me pick up a pro, and later stops us (assuming no drugs, weapons, etc in the car) what can he do?You may want to check out the West Virginia Boards. I understand you are not from there, and they are not neccessarily an indication of B-more laws, but I have read that the cops in Charleston are getting way more liberal with what they can pick you up for, for example, if they see you pick up a "known SW" they can charge you. AGain, this does not mean things are the same in Maryland, but you may want to look into it more.

Bighawg11
05-14-08, 23:01
Is the sliding economy and rising gas prices having an impact upon your mongering?

Read on one board that a local place raised 1hr price $10...just for the entry fee. Wow.

R Consultant
05-29-08, 09:26
You might want to take the time to read the FAQ that Jackson set up for the site and us Mongers to read and know what you should and shouldnt do. It gives you some ideas and where to start plus it lets you know what your rights are from the get go.

Heres the link - you can find it by clicking the Forums link up top.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/announcement-mongeringrules.php

Happy Hunting..




Is it illegal just to pick one up?

Most of the time when they get in the car, I will talk about everything else except sex. A cop wont ride in a car with a stranger. A pro wont say anything until she get out of the area.

If a cop sees me pick up a pro, and later stops us (assuming no drugs, weapons, etc in the car) what can he do?

Orlando J
06-28-08, 02:31
How do you think the economy is affecting prices?
http://www.lilith-ezine.com/articles/politics/American-Economy-Collapsing.html

R Consultant
10-09-08, 20:21
This was on the front page of yahoo news


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081009/ts_nm/us_autos_outlook



How do you think the economy is affecting prices?
http://www.lilith-ezine.com/articles/politics/American-Economy-Collapsing.html

Pussylicker2
12-16-08, 02:10
It seems there are lots of times when there are few customers at the strip club, and the girls are all begging. I don't like to ask for discounts, but its getting to be more and more normal.

Horndog132
01-14-09, 21:50
URL:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/395845_kristofonline14.html

Kristof: Striking the brothels' bottom line

Last updated January 13, 2009 10:34 a.m. PT

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

POIPET, Cambodia -- In trying to figure out how we can defeat sex trafficking, a starting point is to think like a brothel owner.

My guide to that has been Sok Khorn, an amiable middle-aged woman who is a longtime brothel owner here in the wild Cambodian town of Poipet. I met her five years ago when she sold me a teenager, Srey Mom, for $203 and then blithely wrote me a receipt confirming that the girl was now my property. At another brothel nearby, I purchased another imprisoned teenager for $150.

Astonished that in the 21st century I had bought two human beings, I took them back to their villages and worked with a local aid group to help them start small businesses. I've remained close to them over the years, but the results were mixed.

The second girl did wonderfully, learning hairdressing and marrying a terrific man. But Srey Mom, it turned out, was addicted to methamphetamine and fled back to the brothel world to feed her craving.

I just returned again to Khorn's brothel to interview her, and found something remarkable. It had gone broke and closed, like many of the brothels in Poipet. One lesson is that the business model is more vulnerable than it looks. There are ways we can make enslaving girls more risky and less profitable, so that traffickers give up in disgust.

For years, Khorn had been grumbling to me about the brothel -- the low margins, the seven-day schedule, difficult customers, grasping policemen and scorn from the community. There was also a personal toll, for her husband had sex with the girls, infuriating her, and the couple eventually divorced bitterly. Khorn was also troubled that her youngest daughter, now 13, was growing up surrounded by drunken, leering men.

Then in the last year, the brothel business became even more challenging amid rising pressure from aid groups, journalists and the U.S. State Department's trafficking office. The office issued reports shaming Cambodian leaders and threatened sanctions if they did nothing.

Many of the brothels are owned by the police, which complicates matters, but eventually authorities in Cambodia were pressured enough that they ordered a partial crackdown.

"They didn't tell me to close down exactly," said another Poipet brothel owner whom I've also interviewed periodically. "But they said I should keep the front door closed."

About half the brothels in Poipet seem to have gone out of business in the last couple of years. After Khorn's brothel closed, her daughter-in-law took four of the prostitutes to staff a new brothel, but it's doing poorly, and she is thinking of starting a rice shop instead. "A store would be more profitable," grumbled the daughter-in-law, Sav Channa.

"The police come almost every day, asking for $5," she said. "Any time a policeman gets drunk, he comes and asks for money. ... Sometimes I just close up and pretend that this isn't a brothel. I say that we're all sisters."

Channa, who does not seem to be imprisoning anyone against her will, readily acknowledged that some other brothels in Poipet torture girls, enslave them and occasionally beat them to death. She complained that their cruelty gives them a competitive advantage.

But brutality has its own drawbacks as a business model, particularly during a crackdown, pimps say. Brothels that imprison and torture girls have to pay for 24-hour guards, and they lose business because they can't allow customers to take girls out to hotel rooms. Moreover, the Cambodian government has begun prosecuting the most abusive traffickers.

"One brothel owner here was actually arrested," complained another owner in Poipet, indignantly. "After that, I was so scared, I closed the brothel for a while."

To be sure, a new brothel district has opened up on the edge of Poipet -- in the guise of "karaoke lounges" employing teenage girls. One of the Mama-sans there offered that while she didn't have a young virgin girl in stock, she could get me one.

Virgin sales are the profit center for many brothels in Asia (partly because they stitch girls up and resell them as virgins several times over), and thus these sales are their economic vulnerability as well. If we want to undermine sex trafficking, the best way is to pressure governments like Cambodia's to organize sting operations and arrest both buyers and sellers of virgin girls. Cambodia has shown it is willing to take at least some action, and that is one that would strike at the heart of the business model.

Sexual slavery is like any other business: Raise the operating costs, create a risk of jail, and the human traffickers will quite sensibly shift to some other trade. If the Obama administration treats 21st-century slavery as a top priority, we can push many of the traffickers to quit in disgust and switch to stealing motorcycles instead.

Nicholas D. Kristof is a columnist for the New York Times. Copyright 2009 New York Times News Service.

Loopy De Loop
06-08-09, 07:33
Here is a link showing some price drop in Toronto Canada.

http://www.thestar.com/article/646871

Stay safe people

Annaica
07-09-09, 15:54
Please enjoying viewing these pics.

RediMax42
04-21-10, 23:09
Purchasing a girl, however well intentioned is Trafficking, quite illegal in Cambodia.

He is an idiot to write this.




URL:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/395845_kristofonline14.html

Kristof: Striking the brothels' bottom line

Last updated January 13, 2009 10:34 a.m. PT

By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

POIPET, Cambodia -- In trying to figure out how we can defeat sex trafficking, a starting point is to think like a brothel owner.

My guide to that has been Sok Khorn, an amiable middle-aged woman who is a longtime brothel owner here in the wild Cambodian town of Poipet. I met her five years ago when she sold me a teenager, Srey Mom, for $203 and then blithely wrote me a receipt confirming that the girl was now my property. At another brothel nearby, I purchased another imprisoned teenager for $150.

Astonished that in the 21st century I had bought two human beings, I took them back to their villages and worked with a local aid group to help them start small businesses. I've remained close to them over the years, but the results were mixed.

The second girl did wonderfully, learning hairdressing and marrying a terrific man. But Srey Mom, it turned out, was addicted to methamphetamine and fled back to the brothel world to feed her craving.

I just returned again to Khorn's brothel to interview her, and found something remarkable. It had gone broke and closed, like many of the brothels in Poipet. One lesson is that the business model is more vulnerable than it looks. There are ways we can make enslaving girls more risky and less profitable, so that traffickers give up in disgust.

For years, Khorn had been grumbling to me about the brothel -- the low margins, the seven-day schedule, difficult customers, grasping policemen and scorn from the community. There was also a personal toll, for her husband had sex with the girls, infuriating her, and the couple eventually divorced bitterly. Khorn was also troubled that her youngest daughter, now 13, was growing up surrounded by drunken, leering men.

Then in the last year, the brothel business became even more challenging amid rising pressure from aid groups, journalists and the U.S. State Department's trafficking office. The office issued reports shaming Cambodian leaders and threatened sanctions if they did nothing.

Many of the brothels are owned by the police, which complicates matters, but eventually authorities in Cambodia were pressured enough that they ordered a partial crackdown.

"They didn't tell me to close down exactly," said another Poipet brothel owner whom I've also interviewed periodically. "But they said I should keep the front door closed."

About half the brothels in Poipet seem to have gone out of business in the last couple of years. After Khorn's brothel closed, her daughter-in-law took four of the prostitutes to staff a new brothel, but it's doing poorly, and she is thinking of starting a rice shop instead. "A store would be more profitable," grumbled the daughter-in-law, Sav Channa.

"The police come almost every day, asking for $5," she said. "Any time a policeman gets drunk, he comes and asks for money. ... Sometimes I just close up and pretend that this isn't a brothel. I say that we're all sisters."

Channa, who does not seem to be imprisoning anyone against her will, readily acknowledged that some other brothels in Poipet torture girls, enslave them and occasionally beat them to death. She complained that their cruelty gives them a competitive advantage.

But brutality has its own drawbacks as a business model, particularly during a crackdown, pimps say. Brothels that imprison and torture girls have to pay for 24-hour guards, and they lose business because they can't allow customers to take girls out to hotel rooms. Moreover, the Cambodian government has begun prosecuting the most abusive traffickers.

"One brothel owner here was actually arrested," complained another owner in Poipet, indignantly. "After that, I was so scared, I closed the brothel for a while."

To be sure, a new brothel district has opened up on the edge of Poipet -- in the guise of "karaoke lounges" employing teenage girls. One of the Mama-sans there offered that while she didn't have a young virgin girl in stock, she could get me one.

Virgin sales are the profit center for many brothels in Asia (partly because they stitch girls up and resell them as virgins several times over), and thus these sales are their economic vulnerability as well. If we want to undermine sex trafficking, the best way is to pressure governments like Cambodia's to organize sting operations and arrest both buyers and sellers of virgin girls. Cambodia has shown it is willing to take at least some action, and that is one that would strike at the heart of the business model.

Sexual slavery is like any other business: Raise the operating costs, create a risk of jail, and the human traffickers will quite sensibly shift to some other trade. If the Obama administration treats 21st-century slavery as a top priority, we can push many of the traffickers to quit in disgust and switch to stealing motorcycles instead.

Nicholas D. Kristof is a columnist for the New York Times. Copyright 2009 New York Times News Service.

John Goodie
05-27-10, 23:21
I've found that pricing can really depend on your attitude and how you present. Also, treating the girls well helps a lot too.

I had a regular that called me up once when I hadn't seen her for a while, she asked and I told her basically it was cause I didn't have the cash to throw around.

She called me the next day and said she'd go way lower (like a 1/3 what she normally got). After that I never paid the full asking price, but I went back to her a lot. And why not, she was a great lay in a decent apartment in a nice area (nothing skeezy).

Asianluvr11
08-13-10, 19:20
If I haggle with the ladies a little I can usually get them to drop their price from 10-30 bucks. You are already there, you got the cash, she wants/needs the cash, you can walk and find another. We hold all the cards. We are just afraid to piss off a women we will probably never see again.

Boner Alert
10-28-11, 12:12
We don't set the price, the SW sets the price. We may try to bargain and get a better deal but they have their mind set one a certain price and if they don't get that price or some where near that price then that gives them an excuse to offer less service and then we receive what I like to call a "poor-mans quickie", and if you are not a premature ejaculator then you will not get your money worth.

"We are just afraid to piss off a women we will probably never see again"

That's not true, if you know the streets and the rules of the streets then you will know that its not about fear but about reaching middle ground, different areas also define the prices set by the SW, most of the SW are out there for one reason, drug money. There may be a few that are out there to try to get important things that they need to get by in this weak economy but most of them are only there to get their drug fix. The price of the drugs varies from one area to the next and this is what the SW's use to set their prices, the idea is the less they have to "work" to get their fix the better. So what they do is they will set their prices higher than the cost of the drugs and this does 2 things: 1. If they get full price then they get what they want then some. 2. If they can't get the asking price then you will probably be trying to cut the price in half for your benefit but she will go back up a little just to make sure she has enough for her fix, this is that middle I mentioned earlier.

You are probably wondering "well then why didn't they just tell me that price from the start?" remember, they want their fix and they don't want to have to be out there longer than they have to. This is not the 70s. 80s, or early 90s anymore, lots of things have changed since then and they can't stay out there as long as they used to.

The reason is mainly law enforcement, the longer they are out there the more chances for them to get caught by uncle leo. And unlike back then, these SW are freelancers now and there are no pimps involved like it used to be so the women make their own decisions and set their own prices, they figure if they set the price higher then the drugs that they buy, then they have all bases covered. Now if you drop below their set minimum then that's when the shit starts to hit the fan.

Its like this, say you see a SW and pick her up and she quote you 60$ then you say hell no and quote back 20$, then she counters with 40$ then you quote her 30$ and she accepts. So what just happened. Ok here is the trick, lets say that the drugs she buys cost about 30$, her mind is set at 30$ but she knows that there will be bargain shoppers out there that will haggle for a lower price, so she sets her price higher than 30$ so that if you haggle the price down to her set minimum she can then agree knowing that she will get her fix, and you leave thinking you bargained the best deal so you are happy and so is she so everybody wins. But if she set her price at 30$ from the start then she might have only gotten half of that price and that means she has to "work" another "shift" to make enough for her fix, remember she's not trying to stay out too long so she hopes that her first customer will be her last customer for the day, besides do you really want to receive a "poor-mans quickie"?

Its easy to tell what her set minimum is, that's the price she stops at, and if she won't budge from that price then you will have a good idea of what she's paying for drugs.

So we the mongers don't set the price, the drug dealers set the price, and the SWs make us think that we are getting a deal when that was the asking price all along.

RegalFreeman
02-16-12, 23:56
I'd like to say it's a very cynical way to look at it, but you actually may be onto something.

SensualSkyla
11-10-12, 11:51
So sad when us ladies are automatically labeled as such. It is obvious you see the wrong women out there if that is all you know about them. Because of that is why it is tough to get anything. I never cared for drugs and also like the company of a man, but don't want to feel used because he always gets off taking from a woman whether he gives her money or not. Us straight ladies who want to pay the politics like house taxes are here too. Economy decides how much we have to charge because after we get the money we have to give it up to economy and politics just like any other job. Us women have to pay the same amount to everything as you guys do, and men control economy today just like they always did. It is how life just is.

SensualSkyla.


We don't set the price, the SW sets the price. We may try to bargain and get a better deal but they have their mind set one a certain price and if they don't get that price or some where near that price then that gives them an excuse to offer less service and then we receive what I like to call a "poor-mans quickie", and if you are not a premature ejaculator then you will not get your money worth.

"We are just afraid to piss off a women we will probably never see again"

That's not true, if you know the streets and the rules of the streets then you will know that its not about fear but about reaching middle ground, different areas also define the prices set by the SW, most of the SW are out there for one reason, drug money. There may be a few that are out there to try to get important things that they need to get by in this weak economy but most of them are only there to get their drug fix. The price of the drugs varies from one area to the next and this is what the SW's use to set their prices, the idea is the less they have to "work" to get their fix the better. So what they do is they will set their prices higher than the cost of the drugs and this does 2 things: 1. If they get full price then they get what they want then some. 2. If they can't get the asking price then you will probably be trying to cut the price in half for your benefit but she will go back up a little just to make sure she has enough for her fix, this is that middle I mentioned earlier.

You are probably wondering "well then why didn't they just tell me that price from the start?" remember, they want their fix and they don't want to have to be out there longer than they have to. This is not the 70s. 80s, or early 90s anymore, lots of things have changed since then and they can't stay out there as long as they used to.

The reason is mainly law enforcement, the longer they are out there the more chances for them to get caught by uncle leo. And unlike back then, these SW are freelancers now and there are no pimps involved like it used to be so the women make their own decisions and set their own prices, they figure if they set the price higher then the drugs that they buy, then they have all bases covered. Now if you drop below their set minimum then that's when the shit starts to hit the fan.

Its like this, say you see a SW and pick her up and she quote you 60$ then you say hell no and quote back 20$, then she counters with 40$ then you quote her 30$ and she accepts. So what just happened. Ok here is the trick, lets say that the drugs she buys cost about 30$, her mind is set at 30$ but she knows that there will be bargain shoppers out there that will haggle for a lower price, so she sets her price higher than 30$ so that if you haggle the price down to her set minimum she can then agree knowing that she will get her fix, and you leave thinking you bargained the best deal so you are happy and so is she so everybody wins. But if she set her price at 30$ from the start then she might have only gotten half of that price and that means she has to "work" another "shift" to make enough for her fix, remember she's not trying to stay out too long so she hopes that her first customer will be her last customer for the day, besides do you really want to receive a "poor-mans quickie"?

Its easy to tell what her set minimum is, that's the price she stops at, and if she won't budge from that price then you will have a good idea of what she's paying for drugs.

So we the mongers don't set the price, the drug dealers set the price, and the SWs make us think that we are getting a deal when that was the asking price all along.

SensualSkyla
11-10-12, 11:57
I'm not an SW but I'm sure not every lady who is does drugs like you label them here. There are plenty who need the money for legit reasons after men in political positions of all types and power took it from them in many ways and want more from them today, but are ready to punish them if they don't have it now. It happens everyday to women all the time.

SensualSkyla.


We don't set the price, the SW sets the price. We may try to bargain and get a better deal but they have their mind set one a certain price and if they don't get that price or some where near that price then that gives them an excuse to offer less service and then we receive what I like to call a "poor-mans quickie", and if you are not a premature ejaculator then you will not get your money worth.

"We are just afraid to piss off a women we will probably never see again"

That's not true, if you know the streets and the rules of the streets then you will know that its not about fear but about reaching middle ground, different areas also define the prices set by the SW, most of the SW are out there for one reason, drug money. There may be a few that are out there to try to get important things that they need to get by in this weak economy but most of them are only there to get their drug fix. The price of the drugs varies from one area to the next and this is what the SW's use to set their prices, the idea is the less they have to "work" to get their fix the better. So what they do is they will set their prices higher than the cost of the drugs and this does 2 things: 1. If they get full price then they get what they want then some. 2. If they can't get the asking price then you will probably be trying to cut the price in half for your benefit but she will go back up a little just to make sure she has enough for her fix, this is that middle I mentioned earlier.

You are probably wondering "well then why didn't they just tell me that price from the start?" remember, they want their fix and they don't want to have to be out there longer than they have to. This is not the 70s. 80s, or early 90s anymore, lots of things have changed since then and they can't stay out there as long as they used to.

The reason is mainly law enforcement, the longer they are out there the more chances for them to get caught by uncle leo. And unlike back then, these SW are freelancers now and there are no pimps involved like it used to be so the women make their own decisions and set their own prices, they figure if they set the price higher then the drugs that they buy, then they have all bases covered. Now if you drop below their set minimum then that's when the shit starts to hit the fan.

Its like this, say you see a SW and pick her up and she quote you 60$ then you say hell no and quote back 20$, then she counters with 40$ then you quote her 30$ and she accepts. So what just happened. Ok here is the trick, lets say that the drugs she buys cost about 30$, her mind is set at 30$ but she knows that there will be bargain shoppers out there that will haggle for a lower price, so she sets her price higher than 30$ so that if you haggle the price down to her set minimum she can then agree knowing that she will get her fix, and you leave thinking you bargained the best deal so you are happy and so is she so everybody wins. But if she set her price at 30$ from the start then she might have only gotten half of that price and that means she has to "work" another "shift" to make enough for her fix, remember she's not trying to stay out too long so she hopes that her first customer will be her last customer for the day, besides do you really want to receive a "poor-mans quickie"?

Its easy to tell what her set minimum is, that's the price she stops at, and if she won't budge from that price then you will have a good idea of what she's paying for drugs.

So we the mongers don't set the price, the drug dealers set the price, and the SWs make us think that we are getting a deal when that was the asking price all along.

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Steve508
10-26-13, 18:59
I have a SW that has a house and if she hosts I only give her $40. Does she want more? Yes. Does she ask for more? Yes. But we set the price. If she doesn't want my $40 I will find a SW that will give me a BJ down the street.

Camera3
10-28-13, 08:32
I have a SW that has a house and if she hosts I only give her $40. Does she want more? Yes. Does she ask for more? Yes. But we set the price. If she doesn't want my $40 I will find a SW that will give me a BJ down the street.I saw a great bumper sticker once, "Congress, you cannot repeal the law of supply and demand." The going price for an hour in my home area is anywhere from about $.6 to $5 or so. We have one provider that asks $ for FS and is pretty famous for her intensity. Why does she do it and what do others think? She told me she is happy with that. She gets all the dates she wants, only works during the day, doesn't have any overhead (outcall only) and goes fishing on the weekends. Other providers wish she would charge more and don't necessarily say nice things about her.

OK. So pretty much every guy on this forum in our area have her on our ATF list. Great price, great product, great service.- better than Walmart! BUT she is not the only SP I see. In fact, for my next date she isn't on the list. I have three others.- all new to me but am communicating with them and all seem like things will be fun. The low-cost SP? She will be my fall back because, because, because.

I do not haggle on suggested donations. I just don't. And I do bargain for price out in the real world on about everything else. I haggle over all sorts of things.- but this one thing.- this one thing that is so personal.- I am sorry, I am not going to beat up a SP on the price she sets. If I think it is outside what I want to give then I move on. If she asks why I tell her.- price matters. If she wants to lower her rate then I really want her to tell me why? I also want to know if I will get reduced service because she lowered the price. I know this may come as a surprise but there are some SP's out there that aren' the brightest bulb in the box.- it happens. I just want to be assured that she is lowering the price but not lowering the quality. And I absolutely don't want her to feel like she got taken.- she will take that out on me in the form of poor service (or worse).

They say that compromise is reached when neither side if happy. Think about it. If she is not happy because you beat her up on price and you are not happy because you had to come up a little above what you wanted, then.- think real hard on this one before you answer.- what the fuck do you think is going to happen in your session? You feel like you paid too much and she is going to give you less than stellar service because she is coming in with an attitude. Would you piss off a waiter before he brings you your food? I guess some would.

I do not have a great answer. I personally tend to gravitate toward SP's that publish their donations. Of course, that also means I don't see SW types and probably avoid a lot of potential ladies that advertise. I do go through phases. Last year, I went through a BBW phase and, frankly, got some very enthusiastic fat chicks for some bargain prices. A few months ago I was looking for the perfect teenage spinner.- well, she doesn't exists. Right now, I want a wild red head nympho and have managed to line up three for later this week.- one is bound to pan out. But I won't be beating up any on suggested donation.- no, I want a good ride.

Just my two cents.

Toshi69
03-31-14, 14:14
Why? The rest of the economy is compatible, a native meal is a few pennies.


This article made me think about how crazy this world is http://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Prostitution_Prices.

According to that women in Bangladesh ask only couple bucks, in Egypt tourists will have to pay 2-300 bucks, India just couple dollars and in Amsterdam around 70 dollars. It is understandable if you think local wages and compare to that, but still makes me sad.

Steve508
05-17-14, 16:33
If a provider is charging more because she thinks that she is worth it, then she better be or she deserves the reviews that she isn't all that.

Viriato
07-06-14, 20:22
Honestly, I see a lot of people complaining about the prices (and don't get me wrong, this IS an expensive pasttime!) but you know what? Nobody is forcing you to see that particular worker! I frequent a masseuse and I've seen other people post some less than flattering reviews about her prices. To be honest, I've never had a problem. I'm more than happy getting what I paid for, and every cent is worth it. In fact, I've been going to her enough that she'll sometimes charge me a little less. So you just have to know how to play the game. If you want a $5 BJ, then be prepared to get the worst BJ of your life, because you'll only get what you pay for.

BritishMadison
04-06-15, 13:13
Honestly, I see a lot of people complaining about the prices (and don't get me wrong, this IS an expensive pasttime!) but you know what? Nobody is forcing you to see that particular worker! I frequent a masseuse and I've seen other people post some less than flattering reviews about her prices. To be honest, I've never had a problem. I'm more than happy getting what I paid for, and every cent is worth it. In fact, I've been going to her enough that she'll sometimes charge me a little less. So you just have to know how to play the game. If you want a $5 BJ, then be prepared to get the worst BJ of your life, because you'll only get what you pay for.OMG exactly you get what you pay for well said.

SePuede
04-18-15, 15:45
In this time of age, texting is a blessings for both parties. I have my fix providers and I pay their suggested donation, but sometimes, just sometimes I offer a lower amount via text to new women. I have been rejected, accepted or ignored. I got less time offered, I had to wait a little longer or just business as usual. I realized that been showered and been courteous takes you really far and we both are happy the deal happened and ready to go again in the future.

If you can tip, please do and do not make a big deal about, you are just paying forward.

SePuede.

"Mongering is a disease whose only known cure is poverty".

ChachZillah
05-05-16, 00:18
With the way alot of you think it's no surprise to me why so many providers who could dominant their local markets go for greener pastures. This isn't uber ya know.

Zwyft
06-27-16, 14:13
I have a SW that has a house and if she hosts I only give her $40. Does she want more? Yes. Does she ask for more? Yes. But we set the price. If she doesn't want my $40 I will find a SW that will give me a BJ down the street.That's understandable- tho I've had a lady just say no and walk away.

Guess there's more johns too.

Zwyft
06-27-16, 14:19
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Zwyft
06-27-16, 14:20
Fools? I'm regularly paying $150 to $200 for a single pop at an Asian massage / lingerie type place. Or $300 and up to ferret my way through strip club vagaries, meeting girls, drinking, finding one who looks good enough for the lapper, trying to find one who will offer something in the back room or outside the club, etc. etc. Fools? It's just the market.

Then again, maybe we're fools to let the market determine our sexual wellbeing.Nah all johns and workers set the standards together- this aspect of the economy is black to stats but it's probably the freest of markets.

Nikitin22
10-02-17, 10:51
I have a SW that has a house and if she hosts I only give her $40. Does she want more? Yes. Does she ask for more? Yes. But we set the price. If she doesn't want my $40 I will find a SW that will give me a BJ down the street.Nothing wrong with that. Personally I think it is more polite to pay more for hosting.

You can eat food in the street, but in restaurant meal costs more.

Craven Morehead
01-27-18, 09:38
Here's a negotiating technique I've used a few times that seems to work for me. I'm at an AMP, face down having had a decent back rub from a hottie. I flip over, gently rub her tits & offer her $80 for sex.

Her: I need $140.

Me: I only have $80.

Her: it's $140.

Me: $80 is all I have.

Her: How about $120.

Me: no thanks. I'll give you $40 for hand release.

Her: OK, I'll take the $80.

Change the $ amounts based on your scenario.

Craven LowerPrices.

OlGary
01-27-18, 11:10
Here's a negotiating technique I've used a few times that seems to work for me. I'm at an AMP, face down having had a decent back rub from a hottie. I flip over, gently rub her tits & offer her $80 for sex.

Her: I need $140.

Me: I only have $80.

Her: it's $140.

Me: $80 is all I have.

Her: How about $120.

Me: no thanks. I'll give you $40 for hand release.

Her: OK, I'll take the $80.

Change the $ amounts based on your scenario.

Craven LowerPrices.It's acgood technique. Too bad, it's not going to work with the most AMP providers in the high cost of living areas (e. G. , Boston or New York).

HoneyLove313
12-13-18, 14:46
in this time of age, texting is a blessings for both parties. I have my fix providers and i pay their suggested donation, but sometimes, just sometimes i offer a lower amount via text to new women. I have been rejected, accepted or ignored. I got less time offered, i had to wait a little longer or just business as usual. I realized that been showered and been courteous takes you really far and we both are happy the deal happened and ready to go again in the future.

If you can tip, please do and do not make a big deal about, you are just paying forward.

Sepuede.

"mongering is a disease whose only known cure is poverty".Thank you we need, more hobbyist like you.

FlavorFul1
12-15-18, 00:31
It's acgood technique. Too bad, it's not going to work with the most AMP providers in the high cost of living areas (e. G. , Boston or New York).He did say "Change the $ amounts based on your scenario. " I. E location as well.

FlavorFul1
12-15-18, 00:37
OMG exactly you get what you pay for well said.Said the escort. I would agree if all providers provided the same service to the same customers for the same cost. I have seen may providers for half the cost as I saw them months ago simply by telling them what I was looking to spend. (and they clearly did not know me as a repeat customer).

Svetaklisko
12-01-19, 18:30
Ukraine.

Recently used https://devozki.com.

Here are the prices:

1 hour $110.

2 hours $160.

3 hours $200.

4 hours $240.

6 hours $280.

8 hours $320.

10 hours $360.

12 hours $400.

1 day $500.

2 days $900.

Ezinho
05-19-20, 18:57
So I have a regular that lets me pay part of the donation with a pre-paid Uber gift card. I buy the card and then send her the code before I arrive, and then once at her incall I'll give her the rest of the donation in cash. Obviously I wouldn't do this with a new girl but I've seen her many times before.

I like this because I get the 3% cash back bonus on my credit card. Also it makes the situation feel different to me, like I'm getting a discount or something, even though I'm really not. It turns me on that she will see me for so little cash.

I don't know why she likes it. Maybe she likes that she gets paid some of the money upfront?

Anyway, does anyone else pay girls with gift cards instead of cash? If so, what cards do you guys give? Does it cover the whole donation or just part of it?

My goal with this is to eventually pay her only with gift cards.

DPunisHer
05-21-20, 05:30
If a ***** is charging $80 for a QV.

You are about to be ripped off. Don't even.

Bother making an appt.

MisterPlow
06-01-20, 15:52
So I have a regular that lets me pay part of the donation with a pre-paid Uber gift card. I buy the card and then send her the code before I arrive, and then once at her incall I'll give her the rest of the donation in cash. Obviously I wouldn't do this with a new girl but I've seen her many times before.

I like this because I get the 3% cash back bonus on my credit card. Also it makes the situation feel different to me, like I'm getting a discount or something, even though I'm really not. It turns me on that she will see me for so little cash.

I don't know why she likes it. Maybe she likes that she gets paid some of the money upfront?

Anyway, does anyone else pay girls with gift cards instead of cash? If so, what cards do you guys give? Does it cover the whole donation or just part of it?

My goal with this is to eventually pay her only with gift cards.Yes, I've used vanilla pre-paid visa gift cards in the past for full donations.

TheBoobHound
07-09-20, 10:40
If a ***** is charging $80 for a QV.

You are about to be ripped off. Don't even.

Bother making an appt.I rarely see escorts in hotels anymore and prefer the MP, strip club and sugar game. But back when I mainly saw escorts, I felt the time duration was pretty meaningless. Few allow multiple shots and most aren't up to take a pounding for 55 minutes. To me, you're just paying more for the exact same thing when you buy an hour over a half hour or quick shot.

At least on the first time seeing a girl, I'd never pay for more than her shortest time offering. If she proves to have good attitude / looks / service I would repeat and increase The time spent.

TrickLessons
08-11-20, 01:30
I rarely see escorts in hotels anymore and prefer the MP, strip club and sugar game. But back when I mainly saw escorts, I felt the time duration was pretty meaningless. Few allow multiple shots and most aren't up to take a pounding for 55 minutes. To me, you're just paying more for the exact same thing when you buy an hour over a half hour or quick shot.

At least on the first time seeing a girl, I'd never pay for more than her shortest time offering. If she proves to have good attitude / looks / service I would repeat and increase The time spent.Sorry to butt in but I was speaking to a girl about this the other day and she told me most dudes pay 200 for an hour and only last 10 minutes. I've been doing this for 10 years and I figured out early.

That its better to pay for the quicky. I'm a minute man anyways so 15 minutes is more than enough. If I pay for 15 minutes and last 10, the service was worth the cost of 80 at bare minimum. How she looks.

And her performance decides if I thought the service was more than worth the 80. I've gotten some explosive play for 80.

TrickLessons
08-11-20, 01:43
Here's a negotiating technique I've used a few times that seems to work for me. I'm at an AMP, face down having had a decent back rub from a hottie. I flip over, gently rub her tits & offer her $80 for sex.

Her: I need $140.

Me: I only have $80.

Her: it's $140.

Me: $80 is all I have.

Her: How about $120.

Me: no thanks. I'll give you $40 for hand release.

Her: OK, I'll take the $80.

Change the $ amounts based on your scenario.

Craven LowerPrices.Many providers will call this being cheap. Negotiations is not being cheap. Negotiations is Negotiations. She can choose to take the 80 or pass.

No one is forcing these women to do anything. But guys can't get caught up in the shaming tactics. It's your money, you earned it, not her.

TrickLessons
08-11-20, 01:45
That's understandable- tho I've had a lady just say no and walk away.

Guess there's more johns too.Back in this era you could afford to walk away. Now not so much, finding a good provider is a little bit harder.

PFelming
08-24-20, 14:22
I was wondering how much the tip was when you get 2 providers at once? Do you need to tip them the full rate for any extras, or do you just give one tip and have them split it?

Crazy Geek Guy
09-10-20, 16:37
I recently went to an escort. I tried to negotiate her prices was instantly shown the door. She told me, if you had read my ad in its entirety you would see I do not negotiate my prices I don't work for an agency and I'm independent I can set my own prices. If you don't like it you can go somewhere else. Which is really hard considering in her area she is the only one. Everyone around her is fake, flighty or on drugs and honestly she is so well worth her prices and to me I don't think for a quick visit 50 bucks is bad half hour 150 in an hour's 250. Plus she is incall and welcomes a wide range of fetishes.

SaltyDog2016
03-05-21, 00:09
The new "deposit" crave is running rampant. I've read reviews in several states where lots of mongers are getting taken from this scam. Providers are asking for a deposit prior to a visit via Cashapp, PayPal, Venmo, or any other online payment method. Once the payment is sent, the provider blocks the number. Ultimately, no services are rendered and the provider got paid.

Do not pay in advance, ever. If so, the chances of actually ever meeting a provider are slim to none.

Salty.

OrangeSleeze
03-28-21, 15:14
When you go to an AMP, how much should one pay for full service?

Jh547
04-13-21, 07:51
I found this as the price range at an AMP.

40 =HJ.

60=HJ with roaming and FIV.

80-100 =Russian.

150 = FS, bring your own cover.

200= Greek FS.

Anyone else have prices?


When you go to an AMP, how much should one pay for full service?

DrPornDawger
04-16-21, 18:46
I found this as the price range at an AMP.

40 =HJ.

60=HJ with roaming and FIV.

80-100 =Russian.

150 = FS, bring your own cover.

200= Greek FS.

Anyone else have prices?San Diego.

40-80 HJ (CHJ).

100 BBBJ / HJ.

120-200 CFS (sometimes BBFS can be had).

Don't know about greek.

SeattleMassage
04-27-21, 13:52
Do not pay in advance, ever.

Highly agreed. Never ever pay in advance and do not let this ridiculous "deposit" idea spread.

DonutHole90
05-29-21, 22:29
I was wondering how much the tip was when you get 2 providers at once? Do you need to tip them the full rate for any extras, or do you just give one tip and have them split it?Generally speaking, you are expected to tip double what you would with just one girl. If just a HJ, then you would tip 80-120 (40-60 for each girl). It's definitely an indulgence.

SeattleMassage
06-24-21, 16:18
40 each and that is it. We have to band together on pricing here guys. Please do not overpay or overtip.

TornadosBoy
06-06-22, 12:04
Who charges how much for classic sex?

PaulOxy
06-09-22, 19:57
And could be the type of girls I pick up. I don't bother with HJ's. Seems like a waste, I can do that myself. Head, between 20 - 40. Some girls, swallowing is $5 - 10 more. If they are talented and able, a good facefuck gets $50 - 70. Sex, usually around 75. Anal, I never go higher than 100 to 120. They always seem to ask for double those prices, but life is about negotiation.

Johnny Shakes
06-17-22, 06:31
Can you tell me about anal charges?

Johnny Shakes
07-28-22, 02:47
How much couple sex price?

RedBullUK
08-09-22, 10:02
I recently went to an escort. I tried to negotiate her prices was instantly shown the door. She told me, if you had read my ad in its entirety you would see I do not negotiate my prices I don't work for an agency and I'm independent I can set my own prices. If you don't like it you can go somewhere else. Which is really hard considering in her area she is the only one. Everyone around her is fake, flighty or on drugs and honestly she is so well worth her prices and to me I don't think for a quick visit 50 bucks is bad half hour 150 in an hour's 250. Plus she is incall and welcomes a wide range of fetishes.I hope you told her where to go.

Nick4
07-25-23, 10:33
Can you tell me about anal charges?Yes, they're a pain in the ass. .