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Kakashihatake
05-13-13, 19:28
As a monger, I personally feel its a waste of finances paying around $200-300 a session only to finish up in less than 10 minutes. I mean, the point of this hobby is to enjoy someone's sexual company right? To fulfill sexual desires that are not met? But it is hard to enjoy this hobby if when it doesn't last for long. I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but does anyone else feel the same way?

Anyway, I suffer from premature ejaculation (pe) and I'm not ashamed of it. I even tell providers sometimes to take it easy on me because of my condition. Of course, providers, for the most part don't care. Recently, I was with Nara of Rose and told her to slow it down because of my condition. She blatantly said I don't want you to take long which translates to get it done ASAP. It's not her fault and I'm not trying to give her a bad rep, I know the issue is me and its no one else's fault. I guess I developed pe through excessive masturbation during highschool, college, and early 20's. It wasn't until recently that I've been addressing the situation.

So here's part of me addressing my situation by possibly getting some advice from you, my fellow hobby-ists. I love sex and would love to enjoy it more. I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.

Thank you so much guys. You guys are the best.

Admin2
05-13-13, 21:23
I'm going to direct every bodies attention to the special Honolulu restrictions explained in the yellow field above. It took some courage for the brother to start this thread, I'm going to immediately ban without comment any members acting like douchbags here. I don't care if you were the first person to ever join this board and have 10, 000 posts. Be a dick, get banned. It's a serious topic and will be treated as such.

Thanks,

A2

Insatiable808
05-13-13, 21:38
As a monger, I personally feel its a waste of finances paying around $200-300 a session only to finish up in less than 10 minutes. I mean, the point of this hobby is to enjoy someone's sexual company right? To fulfill sexual desires that are not met? But it is hard to enjoy this hobby if when it doesn't last for long. I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but does anyone else feel the same way?

Anyway, I suffer from premature ejaculation (pe) and I'm not ashamed of it. I even tell providers sometimes to take it easy on me because of my condition. Of course, providers, for the most part don't care. Recently, I was with Nara of Rose and told her to slow it down because of my condition. She blatantly said I don't want you to take long which translates to get it done ASAP. It's not her fault and I'm not trying to give her a bad rep, I know the issue is me and its no one else's fault. I guess I developed pe through excessive masturbation during highschool, college, and early 20's. It wasn't until recently that I've been addressing the situation.

So here's part of me addressing my situation by possibly getting some advice from you, my fellow hobby-ists. I love sex and would love to enjoy it more. I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.

Thank you so much guys. You guys are the best.I have found that Viagra (even in small dose, eg. 25mg) will help you to sustain a harder erection for a longer time, therefore allowing you to enjoy sex longer. I suppose Cialis or other ED pill would help also. If you have 100 mg pill, just quarter it and take 1 section about 1 hr before sex & see what happens. Hope this helps.

Be Safe,

Insatiable808

Hypo Luxa
05-13-13, 21:39
As a monger, I personally feel its a waste of finances paying around $200-300 a session only to finish up in less than 10 minutes. I mean, the point of this hobby is to enjoy someone's sexual company right? To fulfill sexual desires that are not met? But it is hard to enjoy this hobby if when it doesn't last for long. I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but does anyone else feel the same way?

Anyway, I suffer from premature ejaculation (pe) and I'm not ashamed of it. I even tell providers sometimes to take it easy on me because of my condition. Of course, providers, for the most part don't care. Recently, I was with Nara of Rose and told her to slow it down because of my condition. She blatantly said I don't want you to take long which translates to get it done ASAP. It's not her fault and I'm not trying to give her a bad rep, I know the issue is me and its no one else's fault. I guess I developed pe through excessive masturbation during highschool, college, and early 20's. It wasn't until recently that I've been addressing the situation.

So here's part of me addressing my situation by possibly getting some advice from you, my fellow hobby-ists. I love sex and would love to enjoy it more. I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.

Thank you so much guys. You guys are the best.No shame! Hey, I've had that problem too and have mentioned it here several times in the last ten years for advice. For me personally, with age came temperament for that problem. It was almost overnight. Anyway, when I was dealing with it, here is what helped me:

1) Seek out the guaranteed MSOG providers. They're well documented on this forum. Or, explain to the girl your issue and ask her if for a little extra fee ($50 max) if she let you pop twice. And then, frequent and support those understanding and generous providers! And if she says no, then thank her and leave. Let her know it is a deal breaker for you to see her or not.

2) Toss one (or two) off before going. Seriously, don't go in with a loaded gun. For me, going twice in the hour or so preceding the visit really, really helped.

3) Go in with a buzz. Don't go in drunk with liquor dick, but definitely having a buzz gets you more stamina also. Of course, play safe and take a cab or walk there.

4) Get in the best physical shape you can be in. This also can be very beneficial as controling yourself is also about your own body control which is always aided by a fit and clean system.

5) Sometimes sleep or anti-anxiety meds can help too.

My recommendation is to try #1 and #2 first while working yourself up to #4, unless you're already fit. #3 next, and in an extreme case, #5.

Good luck!

P.S.
The Kison and CHM girls may be right up your alley as they are great MSOG providers!

Duke Atreides
05-13-13, 22:07
I sometimes struggle with this myself. The first girl I slept with was mentally / sexually abusive in regards to it and it just turned into a nightmare that spiraled into "Performance anxiety+Premature"

This continued to plague me through future girls.

One day I just started eating right and working out, lost 133lbs and did my first chin up!

Following this transformation I got with an amazing girl and I was so prepared for another frustrating experience. But. Even with being nervous my entire body responded like a porn star! Raging rock hard with almost complete control over when I pop we had sex 4. 5 times a day and I always performed to MY complete satisfaction.

The diet and workout plan I followed came from an amazing book called "The Four Hour body" by Timothy Ferris (very basic but talks in basic English and covers many subjects in regards to health).

I now go crazy with steak and such the day before I monger or I know I'm getting laid.

24hrs before sex I eat:

4 brazil nuts

20 almonds.

10 minute cold shower morning and evening. (your body responds by thinking "winter is here. I might die. I need all the manliness I can get!" and it starts creating testosterone to help you through this trying time.) LOL.

YMMV but this has solved my premature ejaculation that has plagued me since I was a teenager.

Good luck and PM me for a very basic workout plan.

Also FYI. I do not take any vitamins or health foods / special milkshakes. But you can always bring this up at a health food store and ask for something natural. They deal with this stuff all the time.

Lowlys One
05-13-13, 22:29
Is there a difference between P. E. And a person who is just hyper sensitive and cums to fast for his liking and how can you tell the difference between the two?

Hypo Luxa
05-13-13, 22:34
Is there a difference between P. E. And a person who is just hyper sensitive and cums to fast for his liking and how can you tell the difference between the two?I think that is the very definition of premature ejaculation. It's that you cannot control or suppress your climax and you cum before you want to.

Redneck 1
05-13-13, 23:12
I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.Age has eliminated any premature ejaculation problem for me. Years ago, however, I occasionally did face the danger of climaxing too fast if I was with a particularly attractive or exciting woman. So I used two techniques (either together or separately) to solve the problem. First, sometimes when I felt a climax approaching too fast, I would say that I needed to "rest" and then stop all sexual activity, usually for a minute or less. Second, sometimes when I felt a climax approaching too fast, I would think about something very sad or disgusting for a while. Simple techniques, but they effectively prevented me from ejaculating and "reset the clock."

Hihon
05-13-13, 23:16
I cum faster in mish than when she rides me cg so when I see a provider I have them do the work. After all, I'm paying so I want to enjoy the longest I can. I can control my ejaculations easier when she's on top. I don't know if that will work for you but it does for me.

Duke Atreides
05-13-13, 23:53
Is there a difference between P. E. And a person who is just hyper sensitive and cums to fast for his liking and how can you tell the difference between the two?In my case it was not because of over stimulation due to sensitivity. Sometimes I would PE with 1/2 a boner, after only 1 minute of sex. Actual lack of sensitivity was an issue during that time period also.

Just my 2 cents on my own experiences with it.

Lowlys One
05-14-13, 00:50
I think that is the very definition of premature ejaculation. It's that you cannot control or suppress your climax and you cum before you want to.Ah heck then I guess I got P. E. To then, but there are two different situations where it occurs, the first is, somedays either I'm super sensitive and just blowing on it will get me hard and then I seem to lack the will to hold off on ejaculation, I think lacking the willpower to hold off is more perplexing or troublesome than just being extra sensitive, why the difference in sensitivity from one day to the next is beyond me but I'm ok with that, but lacking the willpower to hold off, is troubling or I guess I just don't understand that. The second instant is when, let's just say I overindulge in things and I have questions as to where I can get it up, and as another member said I ejaculate even before I can get half hard, which really freaks me out, I think it's more because I'm afraid that I wouldn't be able to stay hard even if I got hard, so I over push myself into orgasm and that's really a sad situation, this is the one that bothers me but I know that one is more psychological, than physical. But on the whole for the most part I usually have control over my orgasms, I don't consider coming to fast because of a really sexy women P. E, isn't that just normal. Also sex with a S. O, I'm perfectly normal except for maybe variances in sensitivity, but isn't that normal?

Panda Bike
05-14-13, 03:13
Lowlys, I was always tought to let the ladys cum first. I tell that to my son too. This makes you a good guy with the girls. Its all about control. But if you try it this way you might last along time. I do this with Monica and Mimi from Pine Tree.


Ah heck then I guess I got P. E. to then, but there are two different situations where it occurs, the first is, somedays either I'm super sensitive and just blowing on it will get me hard and then I seem to lack the will to hold off on ejaculation, I think lacking the willpower to hold off is more perplexing or troublesome than just being extra sensitive, why the difference in sensitivity from one day to the next is beyond me but I'm ok with that, but lacking the willpower to hold off, is troubling or I guess I just don't understand that. The second instant is when, let's just say I overindulge in things and I have questions as to where I can get it up, and as another member said I ejaculate even before I can get half hard, which really freaks me out, I think it's more because I'm afraid that I wouldn't be able to stay hard even if I got hard, so I over push myself into orgasm and that's really a sad situation, this is the one that bothers me but I know that one is more psychological, than physical. But on the whole for the most part I usually have control over my orgasms, I don't consider coming to fast because of a really sexy women P. E, isn't that just normal. Also sex with a S. O, I'm perfectly normal except for maybe variances in sensitivity, but isn't that normal?

Bikeda
05-14-13, 03:41
There are certain techniques ie performing kegels to strengthen your PC muscle or pulling your testicles away from your body when feeling the urge but you may want to talk to your primary care about it. Suggest that you're open to trying a anti-depressant / anxiety med like Zoloft. It's generic so it should be inexpensive. One of the side effects that people on these types of meds is delayed ejaculation. For someone w a ejaculation cycle that they like, using these meds takes too long. In your case because of the sensitivity challenges perhaps this "side effect" of the meds can be used to your advantage. There is no really downside for someone who doesn't have depression or anxiety to use a low dose med like this for long long periods of time. There are long term studies that show patients can continue their use of these meds. Hope this helps, later go back to Nara post usage and take the entire hour.

B


As a monger, I personally feel its a waste of finances paying around $200-300 a session only to finish up in less than 10 minutes. I mean, the point of this hobby is to enjoy someone's sexual company right? To fulfill sexual desires that are not met? But it is hard to enjoy this hobby if when it doesn't last for long. I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but does anyone else feel the same way?

Anyway, I suffer from premature ejaculation (pe) and I'm not ashamed of it. I even tell providers sometimes to take it easy on me because of my condition. Of course, providers, for the most part don't care. Recently, I was with Nara of Rose and told her to slow it down because of my condition. She blatantly said I don't want you to take long which translates to get it done ASAP. It's not her fault and I'm not trying to give her a bad rep, I know the issue is me and its no one else's fault. I guess I developed pe through excessive masturbation during highschool, college, and early 20's. It wasn't until recently that I've been addressing the situation.

So here's part of me addressing my situation by possibly getting some advice from you, my fellow hobby-ists. I love sex and would love to enjoy it more. I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.

Thank you so much guys. You guys are the best.

Crouchingtiger
05-14-13, 04:49
There are several things you can do.

Learn the Karma Sutra.

As others stated let the provider do the work first, so you can concentrate on enjoying but not coming. When you are doing positions of thrusting controled by the male, in a way it is like also pushing out.

Everytime you feel you are getting close to busting a nut, pull out and eat her, change positions and take your time so that the tide rolls back out, then resume.

Masterbate before you go.

Then, if you got the ability, some girls don't know if you come, and if you can keep hard by continuing to to thrust until you get your second wind.

Another way is to pull out just before you come (this is if you are bb) let the shot fall on the towel as you are turning her over, then reinsert and keep going.

When I was younger, I could come and keep pumping till I got the second wind, of course with a rubber, it may come off.

The last three may piss off the AMP chick and she may stop you and say you came already, you only get one shot, others may not care or mind. YMMV.

Age will eventually slow you down or a prostate problem. Unfortunately, I have become jaded and a rubber makes me go limp after 10-15 minutes. I last longer without a rubber, but can fk for a long time and come if I want to, but most AMP girls only give you one pop usually and even the ones that do 2 fers, sometimes they maybe to tired or in a bad mood, no guarens. So I like to do them for the whole hour. I know this wears them out and they are trying to make a living, but hey the money I spent is hard earned to and I am not Chralie Sheen so I want to enjoy every minute / dollar of it.

John Ross
05-14-13, 09:09
As a monger, I personally feel its a waste of finances paying around $200-300 a session only to finish up in less than 10 minutes. I mean, the point of this hobby is to enjoy someone's sexual company right? To fulfill sexual desires that are not met? But it is hard to enjoy this hobby if when it doesn't last for long. I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but does anyone else feel the same way?

Anyway, I suffer from premature ejaculation (pe) and I'm not ashamed of it. I even tell providers sometimes to take it easy on me because of my condition. Of course, providers, for the most part don't care. Recently, I was with Nara of Rose and told her to slow it down because of my condition. She blatantly said I don't want you to take long which translates to get it done ASAP. It's not her fault and I'm not trying to give her a bad rep, I know the issue is me and its no one else's fault. I guess I developed pe through excessive masturbation during highschool, college, and early 20's. It wasn't until recently that I've been addressing the situation.

So here's part of me addressing my situation by possibly getting some advice from you, my fellow hobby-ists. I love sex and would love to enjoy it more. I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.

Thank you so much guys. You guys are the best.Sorry to hear about your situation and the only thing I can add is what some other guys have said. Alcohol can help you last longer, but you will need to find the right amount. Too much and you won't get off. Too little and it won't make much of a difference. Another thing to keep in mind is AMP girls don't like guys that have been drinking as they know it will take longer. The MS even knows this and will help out the girl by calling TIME a little earlier than usual.

Several years ago I used to do a lot of mountain biking on a daily basis and was able to last much, much longer than I did prior to that. My guess is that the bike seat would rub against my cock and balls and make it less sensitive. I do remember there were times when I thought they were kind of numb / desensitized while riding bike. I don't think a stationary bike would have the same effect because there is no vibration / bumps since you are not traveling on the road or mountain.

You can always try some de-sensitizing cream. I always thought about using them, but wondered what effect it would have on the girl if doing things BB. If it desensitizes your dick, will it do the same for her mouth and pussy? That is one of the reasons I never tried it.

You never stated your age, so I can't comment on age related stuff. If you have health conditions, be careful with your meds. I thought about trying Viagra for fun, but was also worried about it giving me a heart attack / stroke as I have high blood pressure. HBP meds can also have an effect on ED. I remember my doc changing my HBP meds and it prevented me from keeping it up. Went back to my regular meds and it was back to normal.

Good luck!

Honolulu808
05-14-13, 13:31
I have been reading your commend and the replies to your post. Seems like your are confusing premature ejaculation and cumming too fast.

Premature ejaculation is common to both male and female. It is when a person secretes fluids by stimulation. It helps with the sexual act so there is lubrication for the male and female to enjoy phucking. Without premature ejaculation you would be dry phucking or you would have to use lubrication to help with the sexual act.

Cumming too fast is something else, where one cums early in their sexual act. That sounds like what you do. Nothing is wrong with cumming early in a sexual act especially at an AMP. You hear of people having second or third pops, well the provider would usually allow second pops if you cum early in the deed as you may have time left to continue to be serviced. Sometimes you read about guys getting mad because they are not allowed a second pop, well, if you are a superman and bang for 40 minutes one usually will not get a second pop. You my friend needs to act kewl after you cum and play it out to go for the second round of fornification. Girls like it when I guy cums within 10 minutes cause round 2 is just around the corner. Just hope you could get your woody up again and enjoy the experience of phucking again after you cum.


As a monger, I personally feel its a waste of finances paying around $200-300 a session only pto finish up in less than 10 minutes. I mean, the point of this hobby is to enjoy someone's sexual company right? To fulfill sexual desires that are not met? But it is hard to enjoy this phobby if when it doesn't last for long. I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but does anyone else feel the same way?

Anyway, I suffer from premature ejaculation (pe) and I'm not ashamed of it. I even tell providers sometimes to take it easy on me because of my condition. Of course, providers, for the most part don't care. Recently, I was with Nara of Rose and told her to slow it down because of my condition. She blatantly said I don't want you to take long which translates to get it done ASAP. It's not her fault and I'm not trying to give her a bad rep, I know the issue is me and its no one else's fault. I guess I developed pe through excessive masturbation during highschool, college, and early 20's. It wasn't until recently that I've been addressing the situation.

So here's part of me addressing my situation by possibly getting some advice from you, my fellow hobby-ists. I love sex and would love to enjoy it more. I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.

Thank you so much guys. You guys are the best.

Mipene77
05-14-13, 16:27
I think that is the very definition of premature ejaculation. It's that you cannot control or suppress your climax and you cum before you want to.Whenever I start to get that feeling of premature ejaculation I just start thinking I am banging one of those ugly, fat, makeup counter girls at Macy's (instead of the hot AMP girl I am with). Worked great for me last time I was doing Aki. God damn she is tight! We love you Aki.

YG365
05-14-13, 16:30
As a monger, I personally feel its a waste of finances paying around $200-300 a session only to finish up in less than 10 minutes. I mean, the point of this hobby is to enjoy someone's sexual company right? To fulfill sexual desires that are not met? But it is hard to enjoy this hobby if when it doesn't last for long. I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but does anyone else feel the same way?

Anyway, I suffer from premature ejaculation (pe) and I'm not ashamed of it. I even tell providers sometimes to take it easy on me because of my condition. Of course, providers, for the most part don't care. Recently, I was with Nara of Rose and told her to slow it down because of my condition. She blatantly said I don't want you to take long which translates to get it done ASAP. It's not her fault and I'm not trying to give her a bad rep, I know the issue is me and its no one else's fault. I guess I developed pe through excessive masturbation during highschool, college, and early 20's. It wasn't until recently that I've been addressing the situation.

So here's part of me addressing my situation by possibly getting some advice from you, my fellow hobby-ists. I love sex and would love to enjoy it more. I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.

Thank you so much guys. You guys are the best.Actually, the AMPs in Hawaii aren't meant to fulfill your sexual desires. They're here for you to blow your load with a female partner. You do know that right? If you wanted to fulfill your fantasy's and desires, you need to visit FKK clubs in Germany. At these FKK clubs, you'll be able to find whatever you're looking for.

If you're trying to last longer, a shitty condom usually does the trick for me. You could also focus on something else or slow down when you think you're getting excited. You also need to identify your blow buttons and stay away from them. I've been able to identify what gets me off and I usually stay away from it until I want to blow my load.

Goodluck,

YG

Little Dickie
05-14-13, 18:28
You are confusing premature ejaculation with pre-ejaculate. Premature ejaculation IS cumming too soon. Pre-ejaculate is the lubricant secreted before ejaculation.

Definition from the Mayo clinic: (Many other definitions can be found but they will say basically the same thing.)

Premature Ejaculation: "Premature ejaculation occurs when a man ejaculates sooner during sexual intercourse than they or their partner would like."

Definition from Princeton:

Pre-ejaculate: "Pre-ejaculate (also known as pre-ejaculatory fluid, preseminal fluid, or Cowper's fluid, and colloquially as pre-cum) is the clear, colorless, viscous fluid that emits from the urethra of a man's penis when he is sexually aroused."


I have been reading your commend and the replies to your post. Seems like your are confusing premature ejaculation and cumming too fast.

Premature ejaculation is common to both male and female. It is when a person secretes fluids by stimulation. It helps with the sexual act so there is lubrication for the male and female to enjoy phucking. Without premature ejaculation you would be dry phucking or you would have to use lubrication to help with the sexual act.

Cumming too fast is something else, where one cums early in their sexual act. That sounds like what you do. Nothing is wrong with cumming early in a sexual act especially at an AMP. You hear of people having second or third pops, well the provider would usually allow second pops if you cum early in the deed as you may have time left to continue to be serviced. Sometimes you read about guys getting mad because they are not allowed a second pop, well, if you are a superman and bang for 40 minutes one usually will not get a second pop. You my friend needs to act kewl after you cum and play it out to go for the second round of fornification. Girls like it when I guy cums within 10 minutes cause round 2 is just around the corner. Just hope you could get your woody up again and enjoy the experience of phucking again after you cum.

Honolulu808
05-15-13, 02:12
Mahalo for the correction and research LD.

Still premature ejaculation could out get to get double pops in one session.


You are confusing premature ejaculation with pre-ejaculate. Premature ejaculation IS cumming too soon. Pre-ejaculate is the lubricant secreted before ejaculation.

Definition from the Mayo clinic: (Many other definitions can be found but they will say basically the same thing.)

Premature Ejaculation: "Premature ejaculation occurs when a man ejaculates sooner during sexual intercourse than they or their partner would like."

Definition from Princeton:

Pre-ejaculate: "Pre-ejaculate (also known as pre-ejaculatory fluid, preseminal fluid, or Cowper's fluid, and colloquially as pre-cum) is the clear, colorless, viscous fluid that emits from the urethra of a man's penis when he is sexually aroused."

Doc Wayne
05-15-13, 13:15
Yeah, this is a good idea for a new thread BUT I wish you had just titled it for the whole spectrum of problems. Like also include when get hard time cum. Even at my age, I still get both problems from time to time and I'm still trying to figure out when is when. Sometimes I think the bb makes me cum too fast but covered cannot cum at all.

YG365
05-15-13, 14:40
Mahalo for the correction and research LD.

Still premature ejaculation could out get to get double pops in one session.Huh? I don't get this statement of yours. Clarify.

YG

Hypo Luxa
05-15-13, 17:02
Yeah, this is a good idea for a new thread BUT I wish you had just titled it for the whole spectrum of problems. Like also include when get hard time cum. Even at my age, I still get both problems from time to time and I'm still trying to figure out when is when. Sometimes I think the bb makes me cum too fast but covered cannot cum at all.Wow, we are paralleling each other here! I went from always having difficulty controlling my climax to now being able to. But, the one issue I now face is that sometimes if I control it for too long, I lose the ability to come at the end. The other day with Yasy, I worked hard on not coming so I could go through all of her dirty deeds fully. But, at the end when she was asking me to cum on her face while giving me sloppy, wet BBBJ, I couldn't pull the trigger. I had to go back to FS. Even then I was worried I might not pop until she really started fucking back hard and DFKing me. That did it!

So, with Sugar a couple of days ago, I decided to go with the opportunity of blowing before it was too late. It paid off because it was early enough to get a round too, but I still had enough drive to stay hard and go right into round two.

Getting older while participating in the hobby is an interesting process!

Doc Wayne
05-15-13, 18:18
Wow, we are paralleling each other here! I went from always having difficulty controlling my climax to now being able to. But, the one issue I now face is that sometimes if I control it for too long, I lose the ability to come at the end. The other day with Yasy, I worked hard on not coming so I could go through all of her dirty deeds fully. But, at the end when she was asking me to cum on her face while giving me sloppy, wet BBBJ, I couldn't pull the trigger. I had to go back to FS. Even then I was worried I might not pop until she really started fucking back hard and DFKing me. That did it!

So, with Sugar a couple of days ago, I decided to go with the opportunity of blowing before it was too late. It paid off because it was early enough to get a round too, but I still had enough drive to stay hard and go right into round two.

Getting older while participating in the hobby is an interesting process!How about we call this the ED thread. Not for erectile dysfunction. But "ejaculation disability" LOL

Qman90
05-15-13, 19:31
Wow, we are paralleling each other here! I went from always having difficulty controlling my climax to now being able to. But, the one issue I now face is that sometimes if I control it for too long, I lose the ability to come at the end. The other day with Yasy, I worked hard on not coming so I could go through all of her dirty deeds fully. But, at the end when she was asking me to cum on her face while giving me sloppy, wet BBBJ, I couldn't pull the trigger. I had to go back to FS. Even then I was worried I might not pop until she really started fucking back hard and DFKing me. That did it!

So, with Sugar a couple of days ago, I decided to go with the opportunity of blowing before it was too late. It paid off because it was early enough to get a round too, but I still had enough drive to stay hard and go right into round two.

Getting older while participating in the hobby is an interesting process!Got to agree with both of you. Been having the same problem myself. Sometimes I can't cum and other times I cum too early.

Starfox64
05-15-13, 19:54
Got to agree with both of you. Been having the same problem myself. Sometimes I can't cum and other times I cum too early.I have sometimes have the same problem. I think what happens is that we use up all our stamina trying not to cum. Then when it's time. Sometimes after 40 min of athletic sex there just isn't enough blood pressure down there to get off. I think physical shape has something to do with this. I've let myself slide a little and noticed this problem recently. So I'm back to running and working out.

Crouchingtiger
05-16-13, 03:12
I have sometimes have the same problem. I think what happens is that we use up all our stamina trying not to cum. Then when it's time. Sometimes after 40 min of athletic sex there just isn't enough blood pressure down there to get off. I think physical shape has something to do with this. I've let myself slide a little and noticed this problem recently. So I'm back to running and working out.That is true with a lot of people. Yes, when you are out of shape your heart is pumping hard. Athletes and runners, doing the same excercise as you, are said to have lower heart rates.

Also, you may not know this, but on a hot muggy day, have you notice you feel like a lazy dog. Same as havng sex for a long time, expecially when its warm. Your blood vessel opens up to try and cool you down, when that happens, its hard to stay hard, for me, I tell the girl to give me a hand job while my heart rate slows, catch my breath and I cool down, then I can get back to pumping her. Thats why I like the air conditioner on (girls usually hate this), but the draw back is that for some guys it makes you more sensitive, you know chicken skin, but your blood vessel constricts to try and keep you warm. For me when it is cold, I can stay sensitive, but yet control and have mad monkey sex without getting prematurely tired from being hot, if I tire it is because of being out of condition, for an hour no problem.

Shooter808
05-16-13, 04:04
Wow, we are paralleling each other here! I went from always having difficulty controlling my climax to now being able to. But, the one issue I now face is that sometimes if I control it for too long, I lose the ability to come at the end. The other day with Yasy, I worked hard on not coming so I could go through all of her dirty deeds fully. But, at the end when she was asking me to cum on her face while giving me sloppy, wet BBBJ, I couldn't pull the trigger. I had to go back to FS. Even then I was worried I might not pop until she really started fucking back hard and DFKing me. That did it!

So, with Sugar a couple of days ago, I decided to go with the opportunity of blowing before it was too late. It paid off because it was early enough to get a round too, but I still had enough drive to stay hard and go right into round two.

Getting older while participating in the hobby is an interesting process!Same problem here. I have a semi regular civilian now and bareback if I control it for too long it takes me forever to pop. It was bad enough when I was wearing a cover and had a few beers but now bb and no alcohol and still can go for an hour easy. Sounds fun but after a while, you just want to finish.

What a fahking problem I never expected to have. I think I wasn't banging enough in my 20's and 30's. LOL!

YG365
05-16-13, 05:06
Same problem here. I have a semi regular civilian now and bareback if I control it for too long it takes me forever to pop. It was bad enough when I was wearing a cover and had a few beers but now bb and no alcohol and still can go for an hour easy. Sounds fun but after a while, you just want to finish.

What a fahking problem I never expected to have. I think I wasn't banging enough in my 20's and 30's. LOL!That's why mongers should just blow their load when you get the chance. It ain't about trying to please the girl but maximizing your O.

YG

Hypo Luxa
05-16-13, 06:00
That's why mongers should just blow their load when you get the chance. It ain't about trying to please the girl but maximizing your O.

YGPleasing the girl actually pleases me. Seriously, that is part of my satisfaction. Not from a "generosity" standpoint, but from an ego feeding standpoint. It just adds to the overall experience when she's going nutz too! Plus, the longer you hold out from popping, the longer the service.

Crouchingtiger
05-16-13, 06:22
That's why mongers should just blow their load when you get the chance. It ain't about trying to please the girl but maximizing your O.

YGFor me its not about just blowing your load or pleasing the girl, its the fact that, I want to enjoy every minute inside the girl (whether its her puss, mouth or hands) as long as I can. Its like when a girl goes to a spa to be pampered. Well, I want jr. pampered for the time I paid / paying for. Of course in the end its about me making sure she is rewarded in the end with a nice dose of vita juice-hehe.

Seriously, I would love a girl that would suck jr all night while I watch tv till my ready to go to sleep-hmmmm. Don't have to worry about jr staying hard for that cause it just feels good.

Lowlys One
05-16-13, 08:33
Got to agree with both of you. Been having the same problem myself. Sometimes I can't cum and other times I cum too early.I'm the same at times, for me a lot has to do with having the mind / body connection, or the loss of it. There can be a number of reasons why I lose that connection like to much drinking and partying, nervousness (that's why I haven't been AMP'ing as of late) , feeling rushed, over exerting and or fatigue and on and on. Almost like lifting weights that are a little bit to heavy, you're lifting the weights but you're not feeling the muscles contract, it's hard to get that mind / body connection if the weights you're using are to heavy, same with the deed, hard to feel the friction if you all buss or fatigued and out of breath or feel uncomfortable or uneasy.

Doc Wayne
05-16-13, 13:08
Thanks for the pertinent info fellas. Just wish the Coco I referred to would return sometime soon. She said her "circuit" was California, then New York then down to Mississippi (I asked her "why there?" Seems like an odd place. She said the work there was easy. Mostly old guys who come fast. OK then) so maybe she be back soon.

PP2Moved this quote from the Seven thread. But it points out that old guys have this conundrum. I think old guys cumming fast is a mental thing if they're not on ed drugs. It's the excitement of fucking a sweet young thing, or because they haven't had sex in awhile. Just my personal opinion, not my medical opinion. On the other hand, if you're on Viagra, the erection can be so hard that it loses some sensitivity, plus age and other physical factors slow down everything and it may take longer, or forever to cum, especially if a thick condom is used. There's another thread for mongering with ole guys and the board used to use it to reminisce about old times, but the purpose of that thread was also to help ole guys find providers who did the old farts well. We could use that thread specifically to discuss cumming problems when guys get old. What problems are being experienced and what to do about it.

Kakashihatake
05-16-13, 16:04
Pleasing the girl actually pleases me. Seriously, that is part of my satisfaction. Not from a "generosity" standpoint, but from an ego feeding standpoint. It just adds to the overall experience when she's going nutz too! Plus, the longer you hold out from popping, the longer the service.I agree with you. It's not fully about us guys getting ours, but giving the girl, provider or not, some level of pleasure. For me its a mental thing, that it sexually pleases me to know the girl I'm with is having fun like me. Think about it, its not fun for us if the girl we're with is not having with us, therefore, we get complaints about deadfish providers.

To stay on topic, an update on my situation. Been reading books about premature ejaculation, particularly this book called ejaculation trainer. It helped in reiterating the importance of breathing, muscle relaxation, and muscle control. It gave a pretty clear guide on physical and mental techniques and habits to break and develop to help control ejaculation. If your interested let me know through pm. I'll send it to you in pdf format.

I've also bought a "toy" to help in my training, although, I may need to replace this with a fleshlight stamina training unit. I've been timing myself and there has been significant improvements. The practice, breathing and muscle control really helped.

My fondness of porn and the "need" to get it done quickly really messed up my system. So right now, I'm staying away from visually stimulating images to try and regain some mental control which helps in lasting longer. Will keep you folks updated on my progress.

Prjuan
05-17-13, 18:19
To consider whether premature ejaculation (PE) may be happening, requires consideration of what is statistically normal in terms of the duration of sexual intercourse. In spite of member discussions here who may experience much longer durations, the statistical median for the time entering a woman until completion (intravaginal ejaculation latency time or IELT) is less than 6 minutes. One multinational study of 500 couples showed this time could range between 50 seconds to 45 minutes, but the vast majority of men finish more in the range of 5. 5 minutes. A similar study conducted some years later had the same findings, and other studies echo these results.

"The DSM-IV guideline defines PE as ejaculation before, shortly after, or before they wish" which is unfortunately quite vague; diagnostically speaking this is considered to fall in the 30 second to 2 minute range, particularly if this is what someone experiences consistently. It is worth noting that IELT generally decreases with age, which is to say that the older the man, the shorter time to completion, is what is normally experienced.

Again, there appear to be those here discuss much longer sessions or even delayed ejaculation / inorgasmia as age progresses, but when populations of subjects are considered, most do not have half hour latency as they get into their 50s. It is worth noting that between 30-70% of men experience some degree of PE at some time in their lives, so this is not at all uncommon. If someone regularly lasts 30 minutes, then bravo.

There are thought to be many potential causes of PE, ranging from behavioral training (masturbating quickly during youth due to limited privacy or masturbating quickly for immediate gratification) , to anxiety (sexual or otherwise) , physical condition, age, muscle tension, sexual position, frequency of sexual activity, and neurochemical disposition.

It is the last part that becomes interesting, as there has been found to be a relationship between PE and serotonin pathways, which is why there has been off label use of serotonin related anti-depressant drugs to treat the disorder. This is due to the fact that while many anti-depressant medications have sexual side effects, it was discovered that one side effect common to SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) which increase available serotonin, is delayed ejaculation. People taking these drugs for depression found that they lasted longer in bed, so doctors started prescribing the drugs for people with PE alone.

For this reason, an effort has been made to find an approved medication to help treat those with PE but not necessarily symptoms of depression, specifically an SSRI medication that was found to be ineffective as an anti-depressant due to its short half life, called Dapoxetine (brand name Priligy). Half life means that it leaves the body too quickly to help with mood, but a short half life drug can be taken as needed a few hours before sex to affect the serotonin system thought to be responsible for causing PE symptoms. That is to say, PE may be the result of a problem with the supply of the neurotransmitter serotonin, or the function of its receptors. PE may be associated with depression, so those with both symptoms can be treated with a conventional SSRI daily treatment rather than on-demand use. It is inadvisable for those suffering from depression to use SSRI's on demand, or for those that do not fit the diagnositic criteria for PE to experiment with SSRI's to try an extend already normal IELT durations. These medications alter brain chemicals after all, and should not be taken if brain chemistry and sexual function are normal, because this could result in other problems.

Dapoxetine / Priligy is undergoing testing protocols in the US, but has been available in other countries for some time. Those with a doctor's prescription can obtain the generic or brand name medication via mail order pharmacies in places like Canada. It may be that those with normal serotonin function will receive little or no benefit at all from such a medication other than side effects, but those that have a biochemical disposition towards PE will notice a significant change in their IELT duration.

In simplest terms, this medication has been found to increase time for those with severe PE symptoms by as much as 400, in one study up to 700. In the more extreme cases, we're talking about extending the IELT for someone from one minute to seven minutes, which wouldn't seem like much to someone without this disorder, but could be very signficant to those that do.

So getting back to the original poster's question, if unsatisfied with the duration of experiences, and consistently lasting fewer than five minutes, it could be this condition that is involved. If IELT is consistently 10 minutes or more, that is actually greater than the median, so you would not be considered to be fall into the diagnostic category. Still, the same advice below would apply for the most part regarding other strategies for anyone to extend their sexual time.

There are things that can be attempted, such as "start stop" and "squeeze pause" techniques popularized by the Masters and Johnson research team (you can search for these and read about them at the links below, and maybe try them out with a provider). This is intended to help the man learn to recognize and prolonge the sexual plateau phase, and to avoid going to the reflexive "ejaculatory inevitability" phase which in general terms cannot be stopped. The theory is that becoming more aware of the sensations of each phase, and the muscles that may be involved with altering the progression of each phase, can help a man to achieve more control.

There is also cognitive / behavioral therapy to reduce anxieties and improve relaxation surrounding sexual behavior, pubococcygeal (aka pc) muscle exercises called Kegel exercises, desensitizing cream, changing to a position such as woman on top, which reduces muscle tension for the man, adjusting speed and technique, and some of the others ideas that have been mentioned by members. Anxiety, muscle tension, and abstinence will contribute to earlier ejaculation, so keep these in mind.

Abstinence for some days before an encounter will make the problem worse. While stimulants such as caffeine increase muscle tension and may hasten ejaculation, alcohol on the other hand is a muscle relaxant but also psychological disinhibitor, so it is not surprising that there can be a relationship between these. I'm not sure I would use alcohol in this scenario myself, but avoiding stimulants and trying to focus on relaxation could not hurt. Meditate, enjoy the massage if available, relax, and take your time.

The most effective treatment for those that truly experience PE, is said to be an SSRI medication, so if you feel that all other options have been exhausted and you may fall into this category, it may be worthwhile to discuss this with your physician or urologist.

Perhaps having the opportunity to explore these options and techniques with providers can prove therapeutic, and help get you to where you want to be with more satisfying results.

Aloha.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/premature-ejaculation/DS00578/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/435884-treatment

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16422843

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22456105

Member #3973
05-18-13, 15:31
.In spite of member discussions here who may experience much longer durations, the statistical median for the time entering a woman until completion (intravaginal ejaculation latency time or IELT) is less than 6 minutes. One multinational study of 500 couples showed this time could range between 50 seconds to 45 minutes, but the vast majority of men finish more in the range of 5. 5 minutes.A couple of experienced providers providers have told me that most customers finish within 5 min after starting FS. So unless they intend to provide 2 or more pops, they will do table showers, massages and talk story as part of the service to use up time. Not bad for their typical customers who pop fast and cannot go twice.

Shooter808
05-18-13, 16:04
A couple of experienced providers providers have told me that most customers finish within 5 min after starting FS. So unless they intend to provide 2 or more pops, they will do table showers, massages and talk story as part of the service to use up time. Not bad for their typical customers who pop fast and cannot go twice.I'll tell you that they are much happier if you pop fast too. If you had to bang 10+ guys a day, you probably wouldn't like the long sessions either.

I think it's mostly mental and I'm trying to train my body to get back to those good old <10 minute days. I think I prefer to get the massage, shower bath, etc.

Member #5570
05-18-13, 16:35
As a monger, I personally feel its a waste of finances paying around $200-300 a session only to finish up in less than 10 minutes. I mean, the point of this hobby is to enjoy someone's sexual company right? To fulfill sexual desires that are not met? But it is hard to enjoy this hobby if when it doesn't last for long. I don't mean to be too philosophical about this but does anyone else feel the same way?

Anyway, I suffer from premature ejaculation (pe) and I'm not ashamed of it. I even tell providers sometimes to take it easy on me because of my condition. Of course, providers, for the most part don't care. Recently, I was with Nara of Rose and told her to slow it down because of my condition. She blatantly said I don't want you to take long which translates to get it done ASAP. It's not her fault and I'm not trying to give her a bad rep, I know the issue is me and its no one else's fault. I guess I developed pe through excessive masturbation during highschool, college, and early 20's. It wasn't until recently that I've been addressing the situation.

So here's part of me addressing my situation by possibly getting some advice from you, my fellow hobby-ists. I love sex and would love to enjoy it more. I'm looking for suggestions, testimonies, recommendations, or anything that could help me or anyone else in thus forum that's has pe.

Thank you so much guys. You guys are the best.Is this a fact? Has there been studies published on this?

I did the exact same thing on my younger years. I am not in my mid 30's and having the same issue.

Couldn't last more than 10min. Heck sometimes I couldn't last for more than a couple of mins.

The only times when I am able to go the distance is when I got a decent amount of alcohol in my body, not drunk but definitely buzzed.

Uki Eater
05-18-13, 16:46
A couple of experienced providers providers have told me that most customers finish within 5 min after starting FS. So unless they intend to provide 2 or more pops, they will do table showers, massages and talk story as part of the service to use up time. Not bad for their typical customers who pop fast and cannot go twice.
I'll tell you that they are much happier if you pop fast too. If you had to bang 10+ guys a day, you probably wouldn't like the long sessions either.

I think it's mostly mental and I'm trying to train my body to get back to those good old <10 minute days. I think I prefer to get the massage, shower bath, etc.The way I look at my experience is to focus on having fun and making the most of it with the provider I'm with and not rely heavily on doing the deed as being the only means of having fun/enjoyment. To not be one dimensional when it comes to enjoyment at the AMPs. I look at the overall fun factors with the girl in that 1 hour. That means being silly, playful, cracking jokes, conversing, teasing, laughing, massagy, doing the deed with her etc which adds to the overall fun.

If I happen to pop early or had to finish with an HJ / BJ, I don't see it as being a complete waste because I look at the other aspects on how it was fun. It does bother me at times that I pop in the first position or had to finish off with an HJ but, when I read / hear that others didn't get an extra, they got rushed out, short timed, they couldn't finish, no touchy here / there etc, etc, I realize that my experience with the same girl wasn't bad at all.

Shooter808
05-18-13, 19:20
The way I look at my experience is to focus on having fun and making the most of it with the provider I'm with and not rely heavily on doing the deed as being the only means of having fun / enjoyment. To not be one dimensional when it comes to enjoyment at the AMPs. I look at the overall fun factors with the girl in that 1 hour. That means being silly, playful, cracking jokes, conversing, teasing, laughing, massagy, doing the deed with her etc which adds to the overall fun.

If I happen to pop early or had to finish with an HJ / BJ, I don't see it as being a complete waste because I look at the other aspects on how it was fun. It does bother me at times that I pop in the first position or had to finish off with an HJ but, when I read / hear that others didn't get an extra, they got rushed out, short timed, they couldn't finish, no touchy here / there etc, etc, I realize that my experience with the same girl wasn't bad at all.I think you got the right attitude. I'm just grateful that we get to bang young hotties for a reasonable price. I mean WTF, where else in the real world does that happen. To me it's a thing like, fahk. I got to drive this black Porsche. I would really prefer a red one. The glass is half full.

Prjuan
05-18-13, 20:01
Is this a fact? Has there been studies published on this?This is but one of the theories to try and explain a possible cause, however there is not necessarily a study or data to support it. No one really knows what causes PE. It is my opinion that man (and animals) have evolved to finish within an appropriate amount of time to promote pregnancy. It may not be evolutionarily advantageous to take 45 minutes for each attempt, where procreation is concerned, since that requires a great expenditure of time and energy. Fortunately sex can be enjoyed in and of itself.

Prjuan
05-18-13, 20:07
I think you got the right attitude.I agree that it is a good attitude to try and enjoy the whole experience and all aspects of it. Still, I can see how it could be disappointing to sometimes lose the good part of an hour if things happen unexpectedly and one gets rushed out the door. It gets me thinking that it would be useful to have a thread that can give members a suggestion as to current providers that allow MSOG / multi-pop. I don't think I would go to someone that only allowed a single.

Aloha

Uki Eater
05-19-13, 03:16
I agree that it is a good attitude to try and enjoy the whole experience and all aspects of it. Still, I can see how it could be disappointing to sometimes lose the good part of an hour if things happen unexpectedly and one gets rushed out the door. It gets me thinking that it would be useful to have a thread that can give members a suggestion as to current providers that allow MSOG / multi-pop. I don't think I would go to someone that only allowed a single.

AlohaI know what you mean man. One common reason is due to timing. I got rushed out by Bebe at Kison because I came in at 3:00 am. This was when Kison was open till 4:00am. Bebe came into the room stumbling. LOL. Can tell she just woke up. Anyways. 30-35min after I popped, she told me I was done as in finished already and time for me to leave. She wanted to go back sleep hehe.

Other situations include a provider feeling she can hurry you out because her other customers (her regulars) are waiting in line. So, if you pop early, she feels that's good enough where no need to talk much story / massagy. She half ass the massagy and blah, blah talking because the main thing is that you popped already. Another reason is the provider doesn't like the person (for several reasons) and wants to get it over with quickly.

Things do unexpectedly happen that you do not get the full hour. I think the best you can do is you do your part to help ensure that it does last the hour and not rely mainly on the provider to be with you for the whole hour. Be aware of the factors beforehand on why you could be short timed. Sometimes, the excitement gets the best of you that you tend to forget about the factors.

Ocolumbo
05-19-13, 03:21
I think you got the right attitude. I'm just grateful that we get to bang young hotties for a reasonable price. I mean WTF, where else in the real world does that happen. To me it's a thing like, fahk. I got to drive this black Porsche. I would really prefer a red one. The glass is half full.You are right. Glass is more than half full. Be grateful for what we have. Do not take any of it for granted. Cannot find any American city with what we have in this forum. Just check the message parlor threads of other cities in this forum.

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Kakashihatake
05-20-13, 17:22
Is this a fact? Has there been studies published on this?

I did the exact same thing on my younger years. I am not in my mid 30's and having the same issue.

Couldn't last more than 10min. Heck sometimes I couldn't last for more than a couple of mins.

The only times when I am able to go the distance is when I got a decent amount of alcohol in my body, not drunk but definitely buzzed.From what I've been reading, excessive masturbation which is usually coupled with ejaculating quick to avoid getting caught trains the body, both mentally and physically, to do just that. Ejaculate fast. Right now, my practice sessions are about 20-30 minutes long to facilitate re-programing my body and mind. I'm also starting to recognize my point of no return, making sure to stop and rest before hitting that point.

Crouchingtiger
05-21-13, 02:45
I don't think masturbating a lot has anything to do with PE as it hasn't affected me. If anything if I don't have sex with my five girlfriends, a provider, or fwb for 3 or more days, then I am more likely to ejaculate easier and earlier. I would think if you do it too much you desenthesize (sp?) yourself. I think it is like your taste buds, it has been proven that those that like strong beer or hot spicy food is because they have less taste buds and need that bite. While those that have too many think that certain foods are to this or to that. So both men and women can be very much the same in their erogenous organs. I know there is a claim that those that who have not had a circumcision have supposedly more pleasurable sex, although that is an ongoing debate.

So sometimes depending on the girl and situation I may or may not wack off. If the girl gets a kick out of me spewing a lot or she likes going several or more rounds, I try to save myself.

If you ever notice, if you do multi pops, the second and so forth time usually takes longer with each round. It also takes longer to recover with each round, especially when you get older. You also spew less vitamin juice too-hehe. You also have less fishes swimming and decrease the chances of impregnating a girl. So if I am planning on seeing a provider, I usually masturbate the previous day (of course there are days when the urge just hits you). Unless of course I know I may get two pops from a girl.

If anything, practicing the karma sutra, or like any sport, you must condition yourself, those may help to control that point of no return, learning to focus. When you approach the point back off and eat her or stop to DFK, change to a position that is less stimulating but still nice. Just like for women, being on top is the best on average.

It is interesting that the average according to a monger is six minutes? Wow. I could never appreciate amping if that were my case. I usually bang the girl at least 30 minutes, although I could get it over with in 20. I usually like to go at it from the minute she walks in and if I do finish in 30 minutes, usually it is because I hope to get a 2nd pop or will have the girl massage me.

Prjuan
05-21-13, 16:13
Right now, my practice sessions are about 20-30 minutes long to facilitate re-programing my body and mind. I'm also starting to recognize my point of no return, making sure to stop and rest before hitting that point.That is a recommended strategy. In particular, it is good to gain more enjoyment from the plateau phase, for as long as possible.

While it is possible that there are those who have trained themselves to finish quickly, there are two classifications of the disorder. Primary (lifetime), and secondary (acquired), as well as subcategories global (happens every time), and situational (happens some of the time). Those with primary-global PE as well as some others, may have an underlying biochemical predisposition towards the disorder, particularly if it was present upon the very first experiences with masturbation or sexual contact. Hopefully practice can offer some relief.

Aloha

Member #3973
05-21-13, 19:14
[QUOTE=Crouchingtiger; 1768192.

It is interesting that the average according to a monger is six minutes? Wow. I could never appreciate amping if that were my case. I usually bang the girl at least 30 minutes, although I could get it over with in 20. I usually like to go at it from the minute she walks in and if I do finish in 30 minutes, usually it is because I hope to get a 2nd pop or will have the girl massage me.[/QUOTE]
It is important to point out that the 6 min average is only for the actual intercourse, the time the penis is inserted into the vagina until ejaculation. It does not include foreplay, BJ or DATY. Changing positions often with some LKF / DFK, DATY or FIV in between can extend also the time spent on sexual activity. Adding time for conversation, massage, shower or table shower can add up to a full hour and are part of a good AMP experience.

So IMHO, unless a guy pops in 2-3 min in FS he probably does not suffer from PE.

Crouchingtiger
05-21-13, 23:07
It is important to point out that the 6 min average is only for the actual intercourse, the time the penis is inserted into the vagina until ejaculation. It does not include foreplay, BJ or DATY. Changing positions often with some LKF / DFK, DATY or FIV in between can extend also the time spent on sexual activity. Adding time for conversation, massage, shower or table shower can add up to a full hour and are part of a good AMP experience.

So IMHO, unless a guy pops in 2-3 min in FS he probably does not suffer from PE.For me I rarely do TS unless I know I got a girl that I can get some action in that room. Just for the record, I always shower at home. So that is not part of my time comp. However, I look at sex as also including BJ and handjob or even doing her Russian anything that can get a guy off, not only intercourse or anal. With that said, I have heard of guys that get so wired by a girl that even rubbing a guy's crotch thru his pants will make him have a boo boo. If you take away my pleasuring the girl and the foreplay where she kisses you, out of the hour then 30 to 40 minutes. In as far as changing positions, how long can that take, not very. Plus I have learned to change positons without withdrawing it from her majority if the time. As for kissing, I don't stop just cause I'm kissing. So 6 minutes is still fast to me. This of course is all with providers and can change if the girl is one of those that will stretch the session past the hour if she likes the guy and the mms is cool cause she know and like you as a customer.

Kakashihatake
05-22-13, 18:50
That is a recommended strategy. In particular, it is good to gain more enjoyment from the plateau phase, for as long as possible.

While it is possible that there are those who have trained themselves to finish quickly, there are two classifications of the disorder. Primary (lifetime) , and secondary (acquired) , as well as subcategories global (happens every time) , and situational (happens some of the time). Those with primary-global PE as well as some others, may have an underlying biochemical predisposition towards the disorder, particularly if it was present upon the very first experiences with masturbation or sexual contact. Hopefully practice can offer some relief.

AlohaI think mine is acquired / global. I don't remember starting out like this. I remember during elementary school years, trying to get off as quickly as I can to avoid getting caught. It just kinda developed from there.

Prjuan
05-23-13, 05:15
It is probably easier to resolve the problem that was learned than a problem that originates from a biological basis, so practice and training may help you to have a longer and more enjoyable experience. Have fun.

RequeteBueno
05-25-13, 14:00
Happened across this looking for why my urethra hurts when I squeeze it middle shaft to tip, and typically in a more erectile position.

I got bored reading it, you may find it more enlightening for you. There are techniques to use.

http://books.google.com/books?id=HKupErbQO4QC&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=penis+hurts+to+squeeze&source=bl&ots=x-HXSLCVuP&sig=SsUK1HXFbbSI5NPrHNanGVW0fWo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=q_qgUbfxCaXNigKolYHQBg&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=penis%20hurts%20to%20squeeze&f=false

KidFarian
04-16-17, 15:40
Happened across this looking for why my urethra hurts when I squeeze it middle shaft to tip, and typically in a more erectile position.

I got bored reading it, you may find it more enlightening for you. There are techniques to use.

http://books.google.com/books?id=HKupErbQO4QC&pg=PA39&lpg=PA39&dq=penis+hurts+to+squeeze&source=bl&ots=x-HXSLCVuP&sig=SsUK1HXFbbSI5NPrHNanGVW0fWo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=q_qgUbfxCaXNigKolYHQBg&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=penis%20hurts%20to%20squeeze&f=falseI didn't realize this thread existed when I originally posed the question in the General Report thread. So thanks to all that replied. I'm hit or miss with my SO. But it's been better lately. Peaks and valleys. A few times recently I wouldn't cum at all so I'm still figuring it out.

Next topic for me is to be better at DATY. Thoughts from anyone would be great. Thanks for your support, knowledge and time.

Redneck 1
04-18-17, 08:59
Next topic for me is to be better at DATY. Thoughts from anyone would be great. Thanks for your support, knowledge and time.Just as individual men have personal preferences about how they best like a woman to perform a BJ, individual women have personal preferences about how they best like DATY to be performed. So if a man's goal "is to be better at DATY," communicating with the woman about her personal preferences can be helpful. For example, some like a man to focus the DATY mostly on the clitoral area, while others like a larger area to be stimulated; some like a finger inside during DATY, while some don't; some prefer a more slow and gentle style, while others like a more vigorous style. Indeed, a woman's preferences can sometimes even be different on different nights. So in my experience it can be quite useful to ask a woman for guidance on precisely what she would prefer.

KidFarian
04-18-17, 10:23
Just as individual men have personal preferences about how they best like a woman to perform a BJ, individual women have personal preferences about how they best like DATY to be performed. So if a man's goal "is to be better at DATY," communicating with the woman about her personal preferences can be helpful. For example, some like a man to focus the DATY mostly on the clitoral area, while others like a larger area to be stimulated; some like a finger inside during DATY, while some don't; some prefer a more slow and gentle style, while others like a more vigorous style. Indeed, a woman's preferences can sometimes even be different on different nights. So in my experience it can be quite useful to ask a woman for guidance on precisely what she would prefer.I'm going to ask the questions and see how that works. Being so late in the game and teaching an old dog new tricks has me playing catch up. Tha JMS for the information.

Surfer Ten
04-18-17, 19:10
Just as individual men have personal preferences about how they best like a woman to perform a BJ, individual women have personal preferences about how they best like DATY to be performed. So if a man's goal "is to be better at DATY," communicating with the woman about her personal preferences can be helpful. For example, some like a man to focus the DATY mostly on the clitoral area, while others like a larger area to be stimulated; some like a finger inside during DATY, while some don't; some prefer a more slow and gentle style, while others like a more vigorous style. Indeed, a woman's preferences can sometimes even be different on different nights. So in my experience it can be quite useful to ask a woman for guidance on precisely what she would prefer.Aloha brother,

I totally agree with Brother Redneck. Everyone will have their own preference that really makes it special for them. What worked wonders for me other than asking what turns them on is if you get a chance to watch her masturbating, you will know exactly what she likes in terms of what areas to focus on, what kind of pressure, what kind of tempo, etc. I learned this many moons ago with an ex SO. She loved DATY but I could never make her come. I was really frustrated about that because I like to think that's my specialty. LOL! Anyway, once when we were laying in bed after dozing off after a great fuck, we started to kiss and cuddle, she grew hotter and hotter, but my Jr. Was worn out and I couldn't get it up (this was before the days of vitamin C or V) I started playing with her wet pussy and then guided her hand to it. At first, she didn't want to touch it but after I started sucking on her nipples, she gradually began to masturbate. I worked my way between her legs to get a better view at what she was doing and what surprised me was she wasn't rubbing her clit. She had both hands on either side of her pussy, spreading her labia and was pressing and massaging about 1/2 an inch to the side of her clit with her index and middle fingers. She was so turned on, her pussy was actually oozing sweet juices! In no time, she was coming hard and practically screaming!

Fuck! Now I knew exactly why I couldn't make her come during DATY. I was concentrating on her clit the whole time and would never have figured it out unless she told me which she probably wouldn't as she was really shy and talking about sex made her uncomfortable. I didn't say anything about what I noticed but thought I'd use that knowledge the next time we got together. So, when that time came, I started out with my usual slow and sensual kissing and licking around her pussy to tease her. Then after getting her worked up, I lightly licked her clit for a bit until she got more worked up. Then I started focusing on the areas she concentrated her rubbing when she was masturbating the other day. I noticed her moaning as I put pressure on that area with my lips and tongue. Aha! I found her special spot! In no time I discovered what she liked by her moans and actually made her come for the first time in DATY! I was stoked but she was totally blown away. She said that no one had ever made her come with DATY. I wouldn't have had a clue that her special spot was where it was. So, that was an unbelievable stroke of luck for me and now I always try to get my women to masturbate so I can see what they like and try to duplicate it with my mouth, tongue and fingers. Of course, I never tell them that I am observing and "developing strategies" or thinking up techniques that will please them based upon what they do to themselves.

Have fun experimenting brother!

ST.

KidFarian
09-02-17, 02:52
Aloha brother,

I totally agree with Brother Redneck. Everyone will have their own preference that really makes it special for them. What worked wonders for me other than asking what turns them on is if you get a chance to watch her masturbating, you will know exactly what she likes in terms of what areas to focus on, what kind of pressure, what kind of tempo, etc. I learned this many moons ago with an ex SO. She loved DATY but I could never make her come. I was really frustrated about that because I like to think that's my specialty. LOL! Anyway, once when we were laying in bed after dozing off after a great fuck, we started to kiss and cuddle, she grew hotter and hotter, but my Jr. Was worn out and I couldn't get it up (this was before the days of vitamin C or V) I started playing with her wet pussy and then guided her hand to it. At first, she didn't want to touch it but after I started sucking on her nipples, she gradually began to masturbate. I worked my way between her legs to get a better view at what she was doing and what surprised me was she wasn't rubbing her clit. She had both hands on either side of her pussy, spreading her labia and was pressing and massaging about 1/2 an inch to the side of her clit with her index and middle fingers. She was so turned on, her pussy was actually oozing sweet juices! In no time, she was coming hard and practically screaming!

Fuck! Now I knew exactly why I couldn't make her come during DATY. I was concentrating on her clit the whole time and would never have figured it out unless she told me which she probably wouldn't as she was really shy and talking about sex made her uncomfortable. I didn't say anything about what I noticed but thought I'd use that knowledge the next time we got together. So, when that time came, I started out with my usual slow and sensual kissing and licking around her pussy to tease her. Then after getting her worked up, I lightly licked her clit for a bit until she got more worked up. Then I started focusing on the areas she concentrated her rubbing when she was masturbating the other day. I noticed her moaning as I put pressure on that area with my lips and tongue. Aha! I found her special spot! In no time I discovered what she liked by her moans and actually made her come for the first time in DATY! I was stoked but she was totally blown away. She said that no one had ever made her come with DATY. I wouldn't have had a clue that her special spot was where it was. So, that was an unbelievable stroke of luck for me and now I always try to get my women to masturbate so I can see what they like and try to duplicate it with my mouth, tongue and fingers. Of course, I never tell them that I am observing and "developing strategies" or thinking up techniques that will please them based upon what they do to themselves.

Have fun experimenting brother!

ST.So I asked the question and after several minutes of trial I am finally getting somewhere. She got wet but I inadvertently moved from her spot and lost the momentum. Thanks again for the support. I look forward to mastering the path to her her pussy and making her cum!

The Kid.

Magnod
09-03-17, 15:36
Anyone try tram and clom? I've seen it mentioned as the magical solution to PE.

Clomipramine and tramadol?

Teens For Cash
09-03-17, 15:57
Anyone try tram and clom? I've seen it mentioned as the magical solution to PE.

Clomipramine and tramadol?I tried and use tramadol and it works very good, but it keeps me awake all night after I use it.

Magnod
09-04-17, 14:23
I tried and use tramadol and it works very good, but it keeps me awake all night after I use it.That means you just have to take more V and bring a lot of cash with you all night.

How much do you take? Did you order it?

I tried to find it online but couldn't get a good reputable site.

BotoMoco
09-04-17, 17:03
Go take the vitality vitamin pack for men from GNC. You will take forever to pop. I quit taking it because of that LOL.

Miketastic69
09-04-17, 17:05
Go take the vitality vitamin pack for men from GNC. You will take forever to pop. I quit taking it because of that LOL.I tried a few Herbal remedies and GNC products. It made me not be able to cum for nearly an hour sometimes. Then, I would get phantom boners that were painful. I worry that is what caused my impotence now later in life. I have to take two cialis and a viagra to get up and I pop at a reasonable 30 minutes.

KeepGoing
09-04-17, 17:26
Here's a suggestion one of the korean babes taught me. Whenever you are close to ejaculation, whack / touch / etc. A part of your body that is very sensitive. She used to whack my butt whenever I got extra hard (which was a. Indication that I was cumming soon) This will cause your body to react to the other part of your body, thus causing a delay in ejaculation. The other suggestion is to just pull out and wait a tad bit.

LukeCage808
09-04-17, 20:23
The more common term is antidepressants. One of the side effects is that it delays orgasms. It's great for men but not so great for women. If you need to impress the new lady in your life or spent a ton on an expensive escort, you won't to get your money's worth.

You will need a doctors prescription. Works like a charm. I believe the male porn stars use this too.

Teens For Cash
09-05-17, 09:40
That means you just have to take more V and bring a lot of cash with you all night.

How much do you take? Did you order it?

I tried to find it online but couldn't get a good reputable site.I got the pills from a doctor for a bad back. Its hard to find a good source for it without getting from a doctor.

StangBang
09-05-17, 20:23
3-5 shots of whiskey does the trick for me. They'll call you superman.

Lucky808
09-06-17, 01:26
Don't understand this thread. Why take meds. If you cum fast the first time then just cum again.

Blake123
09-07-17, 04:44
Don't understand this thread. Why take meds. If you cum fast the first time then just cum again.I think it relates to concern about PE during one-hour AMP visits. Lots of guys cannot cum more than once in an hour; therefore, they don't want to blow their load during the first 5-10 minutes of the session.

Comp Dude 35
09-07-17, 21:09
I think it relates to concern about PE during one-hour AMP visits. Lots of guys cannot cum more than once in an hour; therefore, they don't want to blow their load during the first 5-10 minutes of the session.Totally agree; not all of us are young guns with multiple bullets LOL!

I've found, over the years of life, that certain positions cause me to lose it earlier than I would like. Through experimentation, there is one position that I can do that will allow me to last a long time, sometimes too long for some of the wahines, but eh, good for me.

Maybe that's something to think about when worrying about PE.

Aloha!

CD35.

LukeCage808
09-08-17, 04:52
Don't understand this thread. Why take meds. If you cum fast the first time then just cum again.With professionals, and with civilians, you don't always get another shot. AMP girls get a lot of clients, especially the popular ones, so they aren't likely to grant you a mulligan and try again. Some do, but many places it's once and a massage. With regular girls even more so, you need to show them you know what you're doing. It's better to be impressive the first time (that way their will be a 2nd time). Medication and supplements are just one method. Technique, skill, and experience is the primary way of lasting a long time and leaving her satisfied.

What you don't want her to do is to complain to her friends on how fast you came. You only get one shot on making a good first impression.

Member #5810
09-08-17, 10:04
Don't understand this thread. Why take meds. If you cum fast the first time then just cum again.Not all girls give msog. Lot of providers are 1 and done. I always ask if it's available then I either hold back or let it go depending on if msog is available.

MegaManDp
09-08-17, 23:47
I got the recommendation on this board for Super Dragon 6000 spray. It works I use it whenever I'm on my monger. I use it in combination with a desensitizing lotion as well before I head out and leave it on. Once I arrive it gets showered off and I don't pop in 3 minutes like Leii and others could make me do. The first nut is always the best and I'd rather not waste it rubbing one out prior to a session.

KidFarian
09-09-17, 00:41
I got the recommendation on this board for Super Dragon 6000 spray. It works I use it whenever I'm on my monger. I use it in combination with a desensitizing lotion as well before I head out and leave it on. Once I arrive it gets showered off and I don't pop in 3 minutes like Leii and others could make me do. The first nut is always the best and I'd rather not waste it rubbing one out prior to a session.Where do you get it from?

DeMeter
09-09-17, 01:36
Don't understand this thread. Why take meds. If you cum fast the first time then just cum again.Let's be honest. Many guys here (who can afford frequenting AMP visits) are not 21 years old boys.

And they have only 50 minutes. You cum but time clock doesn't stop.

How many guys over 40 years old can get hard and cum again and again in 50 minutes so easily?

I seriously wonder how many times they cum when they praise she allowed msog.

Anyone who could cum 3 or 4 times in 50 minutes?

MegaManDp
09-09-17, 02:52
Where do you get it from?I just buy it from Ebay.

LukeCage808
09-09-17, 05:25
I'm telling you fellas, taking anti anxiety medication as a method to last longer is the shit. Your technique and skill will get better, simply because you last longer (so you can try out more shit). You literally can last as long as you want. In fact, you really have to concentrate and try really hard to cum.

If you use it on a long term girl friend or wife you may get bored with her. Eating hamburgers everyday gets boring, so no need be impressive.

But if she's new (where I once had a propensity to come earlier than I wanted), with this medication I can try all kinds of moves (covered or uncovered) and last the whole hour, and well past the 2nd knock.

It's legal too, you just need a doctor's prescription. Tell him your stressed from work, girl friend left you, etc. You don't need a lot, take it when you need to. Eventually you will wean yourself off the stuff because you'll figure out what to do to last longer.

You don't have to go online or to the store and ask for the ED spray. No shame, just go Longs. A pill a day is all you will need.

BotoMoco
09-09-17, 13:08
I'm telling you guys. Go buy the vitality vitamin pack from GNC and you will take for days to cum. Try it and wth at the same time you'd be taking some healthy supplements. Like I said before I stopped taking it because I couldn't cum.

LukeCage808
11-13-17, 18:13
Read this article in men's health on lasting longer. Never hurts to have more options. I think the ladies first option is the best. Once you take care of her, you can pretty do whatever you want. Multiple Os for her is a bonus.

https://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/have-sex-for-an-hour?internal_recirc=outbrain_maf

P Venkman
11-22-17, 16:10
I'm telling you fellas, taking anti anxiety medication as a method to last longer is the shit. Your technique and skill will get better, simply because you last longer (so you can try out more shit). You literally can last as long as you want. In fact, you really have to concentrate and try really hard to cum.

If you use it on a long term girl friend or wife you may get bored with her. Eating hamburgers everyday gets boring, so no need be impressive.

But if she's new (where I once had a propensity to come earlier than I wanted), with this medication I can try all kinds of moves (covered or uncovered) and last the whole hour, and well past the 2nd knock.

It's legal too, you just need a doctor's prescription. Tell him your stressed from work, girl friend left you, etc. You don't need a lot, take it when you need to. Eventually you will wean yourself off the stuff because you'll figure out what to do to last longer.

You don't have to go online or to the store and ask for the ED spray. No shame, just go Longs. A pill a day is all you will need.I always have a hard time cumming the way it is. Too many years in my youth before I discovered AMPs I had to offload them myself. Smh. LOL.

DRmjm
11-22-17, 17:38
It's impossible for me to cum wearing the industrial strength condom at the AMP anyway. I just fuck until I get bored and then have her finish with an HJ or BBBJCIM if I'm With a provider that allows that.


I always have a hard time cumming the way it is. Too many years in my youth before I discovered AMPs I had to offload them myself. Smh. LOL.

Chikan San
11-22-17, 23:44
https://www.risingmaster.com/

This site has a lot of helpful information; I was able to use some tips to help out my stamina.

SmellMyFinga
11-24-17, 08:01
I had a woman tell me double pop for me. I said I'll try. Unfortunately I couldn't do it. I'm little too old but was horny still. So he gave me a BBBJCIM, and then tried to get up again but I ran out of time. So how much should I give since I never got to use Jr inside her.

Finger Licking
11-24-17, 17:20
I always have a hard time cumming the way it is. Too many years in my youth before I discovered AMPs I had to offload them myself. Smh. LOL.I love that shit. I bang the shit out of providers for almost the straight hour porno rough shit style. Some get frustrated and get on top and I'm laughing to myself because they are trying so hard to get me to cum they will start doing random shit and jumping off for a few minutes of alternating BBBJ and cg.

StickyWeed
11-25-17, 05:38
The numbing sprays really work. Makes your wang chun numb but still feels good LOL. A god send. I'm saving this for special occasions will provide real report later.

And of course, I was high.

Smokin Gun
11-26-17, 04:41
I love that shit. I bang the shit out of providers for almost the straight hour porno rough shit style. Some get frustrated and get on top and I'm laughing to myself because they are trying so hard to get me to cum they will start doing random shit and jumping off for a few minutes of alternating BBBJ and cg.Years of "self-training" with porn has given me the stamina I need to maximize my sessions. Combine that now with the V pill to address my ED and I am unstoppable. The next step is for me to work on my pelvis thrusts exercises.

TrialnError
02-16-21, 20:12
Do providers get more irritated when you cum too fast or take too long?

KidFarian
02-17-21, 01:36
Do providers get more irritated when you cum too fast or take too long?I've had providers frown at me for taking too long. Saying that their puss has to work more after our appointment. And I've had providers upset because they wanted more D after I busted. TEHO YMMV. My plan is to make them "O" and then get mine, that way everyone is happy. The best quote I got was that my D is bad for business but good for SO or wifey. LOL.

Kumuman
02-17-21, 03:43
Do providers get more irritated when you cum too fast or take too long.The answer you seek is in fishing tales.

LocaLoppa
02-17-21, 18:58
You would be surprised how quick most customers cum, LOL. Don't believe every superman story here. Girls say you superman is an insult--you take too long to shoot.


Do providers get more irritated when you cum too fast or take too long?

TrialnError
02-17-21, 19:11
Not quite sure I'm following your analogy or advice here. The quicker the better I'm assuming is what you're getting at? What if you pop really early into the session, would a one shot provider allow another one or do most just end the session right there? Let's say you pop 15 or 20 minutes into a 1 hr session.


The answer you seek is in fishing tales.

ATLFan
02-17-21, 23:34
Not quite sure I'm following your analogy or advice here. The quicker the better I'm assuming is what you're getting at? What if you pop really early into the session, would a one shot provider allow another one or do most just end the session right there? Let's say you pop 15 or 20 minutes into a 1 hr session.I remember a provider made me bust quick from her head technique. She was acting very sorry and apologizing and said normally I only do one but she would give me two since she caused me to finish quick. LOL I just laid back and it took her like 30 more minutes to suck out another one. She was trying hard. I guess she really thought it was her issue LOL. One of my more memorable sessions.

ToHaveFun
03-01-21, 17:50
Certain girls that I have seen for the first time made me pop early. If she is hot enough and she allows certain things (dfk, 69, fia). I have lost control and started to squirt my load. Definitely repeated with those situations.

HoLeeMackerel
03-02-21, 11:19
You would be surprised how quick most customers cum, LOL. Don't believe every superman story here. Girls say you superman is an insult--you take too long to shoot.Does superman mean the same as when they say "you strong" after I cum? Never understand what that meant.

TIA.

EastSide89
04-25-21, 02:13
Certain girls that I have seen for the first time made me pop early. If she is hot enough and she allows certain things (dfk, 69, fia). I have lost control and started to squirt my load. Definitely repeated with those situations.I like to eat some edibles, smoke 2-3 fat finger size joints with some dabs and hash inside the joint, 2 shots of Jameson, pop a viagra the spray 5-7 sprays of some Ky duration spray on my cock 10 minutes before a session if the chick offers only one pop to ensure cock is inside pussy the whole hour. Most times can last until second or even a third knock and yes girls do get upset for making them work hard. We all work hard for our money so we must enjoy every second of it.

HITraveler
04-25-21, 23:45
Does superman mean the same as when they say "you strong" after I cum? Never understand what that meant.

TIA.If they say "you're strong!" after you cum, it can be a compliment. It is the same as "You fuck hard! When they say "You're Superman", it means "you take too long to cum, and my pussy hurts! You mother fucker!

Ichinut
05-20-21, 01:54
I like to eat some edibles, smoke 2-3 fat finger size joints with some dabs and hash inside the joint, 2 shots of Jameson, pop a viagra the spray 5-7 sprays of some Ky duration spray on my cock 10 minutes before a session if the chick offers only one pop to ensure cock is inside pussy the whole hour. Most times can last until second or even a third knock and yes girls do get upset for making them work hard. We all work hard for our money so we must enjoy every second of it.Mean that remedy! I'm pretty satisfied with 20 min, haha! I going try that spray and up my game another 10 min. I like to drink plenty Gatorade starting the day before, makes me cum like there's no tomorrow, LOL!