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Anyone working the Sugar Daddy's sites in the Las Vegas area? I'm just starting my quest on seeking arrangements dot com. I will keep you posted
I've worked both sites. SA and SD4m. I've had success with both. There are plusses and minuses and you find a spirited debate on in the Los Angeles and Richmond Forums. I am current working SA. Here is my story:
So, I've got two AA spinners in the 18. 24 bracket that confirmed offers on the table of 1K and 1. 5K a month. They can both host. Unlimited visits and they want to be exclusive to me (I'm not sure if I believe that but hey I'll go with). My thought is that it's like a contract term. If I catch them cheating I can use it as a excuse to renegotiate the agreement down. Still need to do the Meet & Greet (M&G) and check chemistry. Have negotiated initial trial amounts with both.
Not going to make a commitment because I'm in negotiations with a hot latin spinner who is all about chemistry and a athletic white girl who has this girl next door look. I am surprised that they are all looking for one Sugar Daddy and they want exclusivity. They can be exclusive with me. I'm fucking who I want (LOL)!
I am hoping others will chime so we can set the local SB market. My thoughts are we don't have to worry about the visitors. The power we have as locals is that our money is consistent. Out of town money is high but inconsistent. So, when I get these responses that this is Vegas and you are not offering enough I don't even worry about it. There is a woman on the site that will find my offering to be enough and will be appreciative of it. After all most of the women on the site are giving it away for free in their personal lives. Most of them are not PRO's.
If someone is a scam or PRO. Shout them out with profile number and picture. Picture is important. Profiles can be changed. And the women do it all the time to maintain a fresh look. Good Hunting!
MasterJedi
04-07-13, 15:27
Good luck to you. It okay to dream on, but having a exclusive right will probably cost you over your range mentioned for a decent girl, unless you talking street hoa. Realistically, how many bangs can you get out of 1K? Verity is the name of the game. If you want exclusive, then it's call wife or gf and that's no fun.
HollywoodGuy
04-07-13, 15:32
I've worked both sites. SA and SD4m. I've had success with both. There are plusses and minuses and you find a spirited debate on in the Los Angeles and Richmond Forums. I am current working SA. Here is my story:
So, I've got two AA spinners in the 18. 24 bracket that confirmed offers on the table of 1K and 1. 5K a month. They can both host. Unlimited visits and they want to be exclusive to me (I'm not sure if I believe that but hey I'll go with). My thought is that it's like a contract term. If I catch them cheating I can use it as a excuse to renegotiate the agreement down. Still need to do the Meet & Greet (M&G) and check chemistry. Have negotiated initial trial amounts with both.
Not going to make a commitment because I'm in negotiations with a hot latin spinner who is all about chemistry and a athletic white girl who has this girl next door look. I am surprised that they are all looking for one Sugar Daddy and they want exclusivity. They can be exclusive with me. I'm fucking who I want (LOL)!
Attention! Commander on deck!Pay them by the week and see how it goes. Can you post a link to their profile? I would stick to the $250 a week amount. Worst case scenario you are out the $250 because the chemistry wasn't exactly what you were looking for. Try to get at least 4 visits the first week. Once you add in the food, drinks maybe a trip to cvs it could go to $400 for the week. Still comes out to $ a visit.
MasterJedi
04-07-13, 17:55
Pay them by the week and see how it goes. Can you post a link to their profile? I would stick to the $250 a week amount. Worst case scenario you are out the $250 because the chemistry wasn't exactly what you were looking for. Try to get at least 4 visits the first week. Once you add in the food, drinks maybe a trip to cvs it could go to $400 for the week. Still comes out to $ a visit.I would do the same or go with each bang. If you want exclusive, then it's call wife or gf and that's no fun. Lot of us already have that.
They can be exclusive with me. I'm fucking who I want (LOL)!I appreciate the suggestions gentlemen. But can I get some information on the deals YOU are working on in this market as opposed to just commenting on mine? How about some examples of techniques that you have used that might be particular to the Las Vegas market? How about some tales of success and failures within this market?
I am still in negotiations. I have already got them to agree to 250 for the week to start. With a plan of at least two visits that is 125 to start. I bust twice each session as a minimum. Inexpensive dinner and they host. I'm looking at a Cost Per Orgasm = CPO of 100 max. 400 a week. I don't think that is too bad. Compare that with some of the well reviewed escorts here in Vegas or a casino girl IMHO and for me it the best pussy deal to be had. Even if you have to get a room, given the Sunday though Thursday rates in this town it is a small price to pay. And depending upon your tastes you can get young fresh low milage pussy compared to the rest of the PRO & UTR market. Now I know the deal. Any woman that is willing to sell pussy to me is willing to sell it to the next mother fucker that shows up with money.
Here is my logic: I am trying to learn the Las Vegas SB market. I want to know what these women have in their heads as a fair amount. What are they looking for monthly. Then I ask them how many visits can I have. That gives me a ball park figure cost per visit. Now they are not thinking that way. They are looking at the big picture and focusing on how much they are going to get for the month.
Since my standard is always: Can we break it down for the week to start? Then after a month go to every two weeks then after the next month when we are comfortable go with a monthly allowance? I never gotten a no. And I require a test run at $100. It makes them put some skin in the game. I do not have to continue after the first visit.
As for variety, I don't need to fuck five different women on five different nights. In fact I have fucked five different women IN the same night. My goal is to fuck on a consistent basis. I want to know when I am fucking and who I am going to be fucking. And I respectfully submit that all you mother fuckers out there can set up YOUR fuck schedule to satisfy YOUR own personal preferences.
I am focused on the deals to be found in THIS particular pussy market. And the techniques that work best to close them.
I am hoping others will chime so we can set the local SB market. My thoughts are we don't have to worry about the visitors. The power we have as locals is that our money is consistent. Out of town money is high but inconsistent. So, when I get these responses that this is Vegas and you are not offering enough I don't even worry about it. There is a woman on the site that will find my offering to be enough and will be appreciative of it. After all most of the women on the site are giving it away for free in their personal lives. Most of them are not PRO's.
If someone is a scam or PRO. Shout them out with profile number and picture. Picture is important. Profiles can be changed. And the women do it all the time to maintain a fresh look. Good Hunting!
Attention! Commander on deck!I think for the amount of time and money you're putting in makes me think that you're wasting your time can it be done sure but I think it's six of one half a dozen of the other. Just saying.
MasterJedi
04-08-13, 05:49
It's perfectly fine to comment on anybody's post, that's why it's called a forum.
In negotiations with a HYCB White; 18 to 24 range; 1K / month; hosts; two visits a week; has girl next door looks; waiting to hear back if she agrees to overnights and my weekly payment plan to start.
In negotiations with Young Hot Hispanic (my favorite) spinner that wants 2K a month. Simply stated her request was too high. No counter offer waiting to see if she will negotiate down against herself. Funny story. Says she is only fucking her boss right now and is willing to stop if we enter an arrangement.
New inquiry from young AA. 18. 24 range, baby fat, needs workout program. No numbers yet.
Attention! Commander on deck!
HYCB = Hot young college babe.
Had a contact with a POT about three month ago on a trip out to Vegas. She was a gorgeous blond Barbie doll type with huge tits. Very fun to chat with spunky and sexy. But when it came time to meet she was quite flaky.
Found out she worked at Spearmint Rhino. Probably no way I could convince her to come out and play without some serious jam.
Anyway it was a bust. Stick with the amateurs much better chances.
Be careful out there.
Revvo
I'm not even in town and I've just closed my first deal!
LVSB001; Source: SA; 29 year old; blonde; MILF; needs a little extra help; Says "Let me know your schedule, I will make time for you"; NSA; $100 a visit; and that gentlemen is how it is done.
I LOVE being a Sugar Daddy!
HollywoodGuy
04-09-13, 00:35
I'm not even in town and I've just closed my first deal!
LVSB001; Source: SA; 29 year old; blonde; MILF; needs a little extra help; Says "Let me know your schedule, I will make time for you"; NSA; $100 a visit; and that gentlemen is how it is done.
I LOVE being a Sugar Daddy!
Attention! Commander on deck!The Wall Street Journal reported today that in spite of White House efforts to prop up the market, that the unemployment rate for Sugar Babies is continuing to rise. Serious Sugar Daddies are continuing to spend too much capital in the SW, Online Escort and AMP markets. While efforts are being made to rectify the situation the overflow of available SB's is causing a deflation rate in many major cities across the USA.
Internationally this phenomenon seems to be prevalent as well, except in China where 9's and 10's are commanding all time record prices. Consult your local thread on this site and a reputable Monger in your area to research how you can rearrange your portfolio to better capitalize on this emerging trend.
MasterJedi
04-09-13, 10:30
I'm not even in town and I've just closed my first deal!
LVSB001; Source: SA; 29 year old; blonde; MILF; needs a little extra help; Says "Let me know your schedule, I will make time for you"; NSA; $100 a visit; and that gentlemen is how it is done.
I would do the same or go with each bang.WOW. This is too funny. $100 per visit? Just about any provider is willing to do a repeat for that, been there, done that.
I'm glad you listened to my advice.
All opinions and comments are welcome But not necessarily useful.TRUE that!
MasterJedi
04-09-13, 11:02
Post from LA forum. Certainly a different perspective on SD.
It is hard work being a sugar daddy. At least compared to seeing escorts or going to AMPs. Yes, in a successful SD / SB arrangement, the girl should be servicing you on your whims. But being a sugar daddy also requires you to be in deep cover (especially if you're married or have a high profile job). You have to keep track of aliases, hide communications, hide / destroy receipts, keep identifying info away from her at all times, avoid serious emotional attachment, and etc.
The end product with a SB is often far more satisfying than it is with an escort or Pro. But in comparison it takes a lot of work both in acquiring and maintaining. So don't kid yourself. If you under-estimate the work involved, you'll probably get burnt sooner rather than later.
There are problems and issues with getting tail no matter what. SWs are handy but finding a good one can be a challenge. Escorts the same plus a lot more expensive. In-call places or massage parlors ditto. If you want a true gf experience and are willing to invest some time and energy then I guess having a few SBs is definitely a way to go.
My problem is that I bore easily sexually. So all the time I invest in a SB relationship and then I want something new. It is almost better to try the love them and leave them one-night stand-dating scene. But my experience seems similar to others I have noted on this thread. $ can get you something if you aren't too picky. $$ can get you most of what you want. $$$ can usually get you something prime. I prefer the SBs who are relatively new to this. They are thankful for the extra dough and not so jaded yet that they skate in the sack or want more than you might be willing to part with. SBs are on the menu for sure and IMHO are a lot better than the escorts / in-call / massage parlor scene. So for me it is SWs for a snack and SBs for a more satisfying meal
MJ.
I do not see your point. Are you saying that the perspective quoted from the LA Forum is different? If so from whom or what? The quotes from the LA forum reflect some hard won experience gathered through no small amount of risk. These experiences contribute massively to the value of this endeavor.
Question for you. Have you made any efforts in the sugar bowl? If so how has your experience been? How does your personal experience compare with other providers? What is it costing you? How did you arrive at these amounts?
I am trying to see your point. Help us out.
Be careful out there.
Revvo
Drunker Irish posted this warning on the DC board, and I think it's worth reposting here.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sugar-daddy-extortion-578452Gentlemen,
If your girls get out of line: Show no fear!
It is garden tools like these that give real Sugar Babies a bad name. Straight up gold digger with Golden Pussy Syndrome (Reference Richmond). And she is Hispanic. Usually only the White Girl's have delusions of grandeur like this.
SA Profile Number. 1384933.
Description:
My standards have been raised by men with every arrangement I've had. And the happier you make this Princess, the better for you. It takes a lot to keep me happy and even more to keep you around. Are you that generous REAL Sugar Daddy? Please, no wannabe SD's or amateurs. And If you are, be ready to hand over a very generous tribute just to say hello. I'm here for a serious fun time living in the lap of luxury with a very generous MAN. Long term Daddy's always welcome.
Arrangement I am Seeking.
I'm Seeking: Sugar Daddy.
I Expect: US$10, 001 to $20, 000 monthly.
Description:
Direct deposits and cash are mandatory to satisfy my ideal arrangement. 2 credit cards should be put on reserve for shopping, booking trips and travel expenses. I am open for NSA relationship but prefer exclusivity. Discretion of our arrangement is a must. And FUN on both parts is required! So if you are that REAM SD man, message me now. This Goddess is a very busy gal in demand. Xo.
P4P Las Vegas Sugar Baby Market.
5 to 6 = $
7 to 8 = $.5.
9 = $$
10 = $$+
This is the single girl 18 to 24 year old market. Subtract 50 for every five years. MILFs get a flat $ due to the child care hassle. If you are traveler avoid MILFs at all cost. They often don't have their child care in order and will cancel on you at the last minute.
A Sugar Baby (SB) gets paid by the event not the sexual activity or time. A minimum visit should be 2 to 4 hours of playtime. Playtime is defined as time spent in the private space together. Chemistry can often lead to overnights. And you can negotiate a overnight into the initial allowance. I suggest that traveling Sugar Daddies (SD) avoid the overnight with a unknown SB. This is P4P. Sugar for benefits. Be very careful advancing sugar for benefits to be received later. Some SD's do it. I do not recommend it.
If she starts asking you about time. She is pro. If she starts asking about explicit sex acts. She is a pro. If she wants the money up front. She is a pro. If she wants to come straight to your room. She is a pro. A true Sugar Baby wants to check you out, maybe have a drink or dinner, fuck you and get paid afterwards. So, you have to factor those costs into your over all expenses. The young women are often on diets and very weight conscious. I've never had one try to break the bank at a meal. Now it is perfectly acceptable to discuss her "allowance" up front. And you can negotiate if you want. I don't. For two reasons. You don't want be with some one that is not happy during your time together. And if they have delusional view of what their pussy is worth, chances are they also have a no idea what they are doing in the bedroom either.
The motivation of the SB can be they truly are attracted to older men, they might be tired of fucking men their own age who don't have anything to offer them financially, MILFs who need money to get by in day to day life, They may have had a child early in life and never got their financial life launched or divorced and unable to live the lifestyle they were accustomed too. In the MILF area look for active women in the athletic and Fitness areas. Then you have GMILF who just like to live large at the later part of life. They are the hardest to get on a P4P basis they are often not really in it for the money but for the perceived quality of male in The Sugar World. True value is 18 to 24 year old who lives at home or is going to school and has a job or parental support. These are the ones taking dick for fun and profit. Also, I find lots of value in the MILF market. If you ease up on them body and age wise they are often stellar bedroom performers who are appreciative of ALL of your gifts. There is nothing better than to have just spent that last two hours pounding a garden tool into the mattress and be driving home afterward when you receive a text saying "thank you when can I see you again."
The Las Vegas Sugar Baby Market is skewed by traveling SD's who want the pussy so bad they over pay for it. If you are a traveling SD pay for what you want. But don't pay more than you would pay a true professional. With a SB you NEVER know what you are going to get in the bedroom. As a local I have staying power. I'm going to be here long after you leave. So when the winter months come and the foolish dick stops getting off the plane as frequently, my more modest allowances start looking better and they are more consistent. I can work with a SB to improve her sexual skills. I have the time. The traveling SD's pussy clock starts counting down once they have wheels down.
HollywoodGuy
04-13-13, 12:20
P4P Las Vegas Sugar Baby Market.
5 to 6 = $
7 to 8 = $.5.
9 = $$
10 = $$+
This is the single girl 18 to 24 year old market. Subtract 50 for every five years. MILFs get a flat $ due to the child care hassle. If you are traveler avoid MILFs at all cost. They often don't have their child care in order and will cancel on you at the last minute.
A Sugar Baby (SB) gets paid by the event not the sexual activity or time. A minimum visit should be 2 to 4 hours of playtime. Playtime is defined as time spent in the private space together. Chemistry can often lead to overnights. And you can negotiate a overnight into the initial allowance. I suggest that traveling Sugar Daddies (SD) avoid the overnight with a unknown SB. This is P4P. Sugar for benefits. Be very careful advancing sugar for benefits to be received later. Some SD's do it. I do not recommend it.
If she starts asking you about time. She is pro. If she starts asking about explicit sex acts. She is a pro. If she wants the money up front. She is a pro. If she wants to come straight to your room. She is a pro. A true Sugar Baby wants to check you out, maybe have a drink or dinner, fuck you and get paid afterwards. So, you have to factor those costs into your over all expenses. The young women are often on diets and very weight conscious. I've never had one try to break the bank at a meal. Now it is perfectly acceptable to discuss her "allowance" up front. And you can negotiate if you want. I don't. For two reasons. You don't want be with some one that is not happy during your time together. And if they have delusional view of what their pussy is worth, chances are they also have a no idea what they are doing in the bedroom either.
The motivation of the SB can be they truly are attracted to older men, they might be tired of fucking men their own age who don't have anything to offer them financially, MILFs who need money to get by in day to day life, They may have had a child early in life and never got their financial life launched or divorced and unable to live the lifestyle they were accustomed too. In the MILF area look for active women in the athletic and Fitness areas. Then you have GMILF who just like to live large at the later part of life. They are the hardest to get on a P4P basis they are often not really in it for the money but for the perceived quality of male in The Sugar World. True value is 18 to 24 year old who lives at home or is going to school and has a job or parental support. These are the ones taking dick for fun and profit. Also, I find lots of value in the MILF market. If you ease up on them body and age wise they are often stellar bedroom performers who are appreciative of ALL of your gifts. There is nothing better than to have just spent that last two hours pounding a garden tool into the mattress and be driving home afterward when you receive a text saying "thank you when can I see you again."
The Las Vegas Sugar Baby Market is skewed by traveling SD's who want the pussy so bad they over pay for it. If you are a traveling SD pay for what you want. But don't pay more than you would pay a true professional. With a SB you NEVER know what you are going to get in the bedroom. As a local I have staying power. I'm going to be here long after you leave. So when the winter months come and the foolish dick stops getting off the plane as frequently, my more modest allowances start looking better and they are more consistent. I can work with a SB to improve her sexual skills. I have the time. The traveling SD's pussy clock starts counting down once they have wheels down.
Just say no to expensive crack!
ATTENTION! Commander on deck!Here Here and There There. Very good info. I would only add that as the urgency to fill your schedule decreases (as you acquire a baby or 2) there will be a direct correlation to an increase in babe quality and a lowering of costs to acquire them. Also there is a sub catagory of girls that are even more attracted to a daddy with multiple girls. Their competitive nature combined with their need to have a proven so-called real SD and a strong need for approval (and what could be stronger than approval from a daddy that has quality choices abounding) makes them all the more willing to share their time and eager to prove their worthiness.
Start a spreadsheet (encrypted if necessary) of all activity costs. Year over year you will see an increased ROI in all areas.
It was almost exactly one year ago. I sure wish I would have had the wisdom of this forum then to prevent some embarrassing rookie mistakes.
I was coming from out of state to Vegas alone for the weekend and thought it would be more fun to spend what I would normally spend on CGs and strip clubs for the company of one girl for the entire weekend.
THE GOOD.
I found a 21-year-old white girl who, when we met, looked as good if not better than her pictures. No beauty contestant, but seemed somewhat like a genuine girl-next-door. For the entire weekend, she was there when I wanted her there, gone when I didn't, and back when I did again. Had some once-in-a-lifetime (for me, at least) experiences, such as getting a BJ in the back of a limo, going to a strip club with a girl, and getting bottle service at a club. She was pretty fun outside of the room, and wild inside. She seemed pretty enthusiastic about making me happy, especially at first. Admittedly, though, once she saw what a sucker I was, that seemed to give her the leverage and took away some of her motivation to cater to me.
THE BAD
She was a provider. I found out later (HUGE BLUNDER NOT GOOGLE-ING HER NUMBER BEFOREHAND). From reviews I read, she sounded like a pretty low-budget, high-volume provider. Made me kind of sick to my stomach.
THE UGLY.
I WAY overpaid. I can't bring myself to share an exact number for fear of losing every last shred of respect on this forum. Considering direct cash payments, things I bought her, entertainment expenses, it was in the 2K neighborhood over the course of the weekend. I had read far too many female-authored forums about the sugar bowl, without getting the other side to counter-balance. So I was under the impression that was what I would have to spend to get what I wanted. That's why I'm glad to see forums such as this. In hindsight, I'm quite certain I would have actually gotten a better experience from her if I had actually understood the market and negotiated. My willingness to overpay made her take me for a sucker, I'm sure.
Although I realize now I could probably get what I had that weekend for a fraction of the cost. And with a girl who engages in prostitution on a lighter grey shade of the spectrum. I think I may stick with CGs. Sugar seems like a little too much work and complication for what I'm seeking. To me, hunting CGs is all about the thrill of the chase. I find the whole process fun. Also, although the comparative risk is debatable, with a sugar baby, I have to worry too much about being seen in public, blackmail, my computer being compromised, etc.
Anyway, hope some of you can learn from my mistakes.
MasterJedi
04-14-13, 16:05
Let me be more specific. This is a different perspective than people who believe sb / sd arrangement is only option. Thanks, I didn't have to write all that myself.
It is hard work being a sugar daddy. At least compared to seeing escorts or going to AMPs. Yes, in a successful SD / SB arrangement, the girl should be servicing you on your whims. But being a sugar daddy also requires you to be in deep cover (especially if you're married or have a high profile job). You have to keep track of aliases, hide communications, hide / destroy receipts, keep identifying info away from her at all times, avoid serious emotional attachment, and etc.
The end product with a SB is often far more satisfying than it is with an escort or Pro. But in comparison it takes a lot of work both in acquiring and maintaining. So don't kid yourself. If you under-estimate the work involved, you'll probably get burnt sooner rather than later.
There are problems and issues with getting tail no matter what. SWs are handy but finding a good one can be a challenge. Escorts the same plus a lot more expensive. In-call places or massage parlors ditto. If you want a true gf experience and are willing to invest some time and energy then I guess having a few SBs is definitely a way to go.
My problem is that I bore easily sexually. So all the time I invest in a SB relationship and then I want something new. It is almost better to try the love them and leave them one-night stand-dating scene. But my experience seems similar to others I have noted on this thread. $ can get you something if you aren't too picky. $$ can get you most of what you want. $$$ can usually get you something prime. I prefer the SBs who are relatively new to this. They are thankful for the extra dough and not so jaded yet that they skate in the sack or want more than you might be willing to part with. SBs are on the menu for sure and IMHO are a lot better than the escorts / in-call / massage parlor scene. So for me it is SWs for a snack and SBs for a more satisfying meal.
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HollywoodGuy
04-14-13, 20:36
MasterJedi,
I don't believe that The Sugar World is the only option to buy pussy. I simply believe it is the best way (long or short term) to buy pussy. Some people like everyday low prices at Walmart. I prefer to shop at Nordstrom when they are having a sale. Either way when we leave the store we all have exactly what we set out to buy in the bag.
And let me be specific. There are some straight up dumb ass ignorant mother fuckers posting in the Las Vegas forum! They either don't believe or don't know how to set up a one time arrangement in The Sugar World. They shouldn't just sit on the sidelines with their dicks in hands, whining in their "girly man" voices and being pissed off! If they don't know and they want to know, then they better ask somebody!
ATTENTION! Commander on deckI don't think a lot of people realize that the SD sites have evolved to include every class of girl, from civi daters to SW's and everything in between
Seadog1000
04-14-13, 20:39
While not in Las Vegas, the Sugar World works very well for me. Currently seeing a couple of 20-25 year olds at 100-200 per meeting. Also seeing a couple of married SBs. Those are the fun ones. Take them out to dinner, bang them, and then send home to hubby. Hubby ain't giving them what they need and so they're out selling it. Just helping them out.
Sea Out
Pokerprolv
04-15-13, 03:14
I use sugardaddyforme and have had a lot of success. I just e-mail them with a standard "you're really pretty, let's talk maybe we can work something out". I've gotten probably 10 girls from that site for 250 and under.
HollywoodGuy
04-15-13, 17:47
I use sugardaddyforme and have had a lot of success. I just e-mail them with a standard "you're really pretty, let's talk maybe we can work something out". I've gotten probably 10 girls from that site for 250 and under.For $250 I can 99% of the girls on that site. LOL. Try offering $ a date or $$.5 per WEEK. Unless they are true 10/10/10's (white or asian) then I can understand
Arrive in Vegas on Saturday and chilling with friends (by choice and design).
LVSB001 meeting me on Sunday afternoon; On Monday bringing her lunch. Back seat action after lunch in her parking lot at work. Tuesday hotel meeting after work. Sugar amount: $. Plus hotel (2 nights) , meals (Brunch. 2 dinners, and a liquid lunch) , gifts (shoes & lingerie). CPO report to follow.
Maybe do a interview on Saturday night. Interview Monday night. Interview Tuesday at lunch. Wednesday Breakfast lunch and dinner interview. Meet Ms. Canada on Thursday morning. She will meeting me at the door naked. I love Vegas!
P. S. Why would anyone even consider a CG or Escort?
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Arrive in Vegas on Saturday and chilling with friends (by choice and design).
LVSB001 meeting me on Sunday afternoon; On Monday bringing her lunch. Back seat action after lunch in her parking lot at work. Tuesday hotel meeting after work. Sugar amount: $. Plus hotel (2 nights) , meals (Brunch. 2 dinners, and a liquid lunch) , gifts (shoes & lingerie). CPO report to follow.
Maybe do a interview on Saturday night. Interview Monday night. Interview Tuesday at lunch. Wednesday Breakfast lunch and dinner interview. Meet Ms. Canada on Thursday morning. She will meeting me at the door naked. I love Vegas!
ATTENTION! Commander on deck!
P. S. Why would anyone even consider a CG or Escort?Sounds good but what about some us who has limited funds, what advice do you have? I tried this once in LA and I spent more than I would have seeing an escort.
Sounds good but what about some us who has limited funds, what advice do you have? I tried this once in LA and I spent more than I would have seeing an escort.Mr. Taglibug,
It depends upon what you mean by "limited funds". Give me the numbers from your LA experience and we will figure out what went wrong. I mean this with no disrespect. If you are a sprinter and you done after one race. Yes, most likely a Sugar Baby is not a good deal for you. But if you are more of a long distance runner that can go the distance several times then a Sugar Baby is going to beat a Escort every day of the week.
The average Sugar Baby experience should be 2 to 4 hours with at least two busts. That is my minimum standard. But I've had Sugar Babies show up and I work them for an hour bust once and drop $. Not optimal. But not bad over all as I like to keep my Cost Per Orgasm (CPO) at less than $. Even if you measure by the hour that is $/hour. And that is for a 19 year old African American (AA) spinner. Who did BBBJ. Took a pounding from behind for as hard and as long as I wanted (Complete with hair pulling and ass slapping). Then I flipped her over and finished her off in mish.
But the only way to know for sure is to work actual numbers. I won't know what LVSB001 is going to cost me completely until everything is done. I am most certain to keep my CPO below a hundred and I might get it below that. I will post the results and how I measure success. Let's run the numbers on your LA experience.
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MasterJedi
04-18-13, 02:44
I splurge when I win stack of black chips at the casino, but I'm a bargain hunter without the casino's support. I just posted my report on 'streetwalker reports'. I spent. 3 for CBJ and. 6 for FS. My CPO is. 45 for tonight, so please tell me if anyone can direct me to sb / sd site for the bargain hunters.
I splurge when I win stack of black chips at the casino, but I'm a bargain hunter without the casino's support. I just posted my report on 'streetwalker reports'. I spent. 3 for CBJ and. 6 for FS. My CPO is. 45 for tonight, so please tell me if anyone can direct me to sb / sd site for the bargain hunters.MasterJedi,
That is a excellent CPO! Anytime you can keep your CPO lower than $ you are doing great in the sugar world!
Last week I had a 19 year old AA Spinner delivered to my door. She was a SW (can you still say that here?) in a rural community 1 hour away. No kissing; Straight fuckin! BBBJ, CFS, Took a doggie pounding as hard I could hit it (And yes I went deep, I went hard and I went HAM. I tried to bruise her mother fucking cervix!) complete with hair pulling and ass slapping. Flipped her over and finished off in missionary. I had a great time! Sugar: $; CPO = $; But it was a outcall man! Source: SA.
Yes, I know it is not for everyone. But it is possible. 50% of all AA Spinners on the Sugar sites are PRO's and will quote you hh & hr rates right on the site. Plus a lot of white girls and Latinas. I have not run across many Asian pros. They are usually doing the real Sugar Daddy thing and are in high demand. The PRO's often have in call. SD4m is the best site for short term one time arrangements. I am not suggesting you or anybody join. But the is a WIDE range of options out there. It is a brave new world for buying pussy online.
I splurge when I win stack of black chips at the casino, but I'm a bargain hunter without the casino's support. I just posted my report on 'streetwalker reports'. I spent. 3 for CBJ and. 6 for FS. My CPO is. 45 for tonight, so please tell me if anyone can direct me to sb / sd site for the bargain hunters.With the site they go on why pay 40. 00 a month when you can mine CL for (FREE) right Master? I bet he didn't compute that into his CPO?
Dirty Old Guy
04-18-13, 08:30
Douchebaggery? Love it! :D
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I've followed this discussion for some time now and need to contribute. Past few trips I've met a couple of sb. IMHO, the best advantage is time. If you work it right a sb will stay the entire night and won't say no to 3rds. 4ths, etc. Plus, you know what you're getting. Everything is arranged before hand so there are no surprises. Looks or otherwise. Importantly though, even when I have a sb lined up, I still hunt cg's. If the sb isn't coming over til midnight, you have a good 2 hrs to see what you can find. Most cg's are in and out in a half hr anyway. Or arrange an afternoon meeting with the sb and enjoy your nighttime hunt. Its all what your budget can afford.
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HollywoodGuy
04-18-13, 14:55
Douchebaggery? Love it! :DTry using that in a game of scrabble.
Mr. Joesun1,
Sugar Daddy's who care about the numbers actually do calculate the cost of joining a sugar site into their overall CPO calculations.
For example: A sugar site costs on average 50 / month. I see a minimum of 1 sugar baby a week. I bust twice during each visit. Over 4 weeks that is 8 busts. 50/8 = 6. 25. So, at a minimum I have to add 6. 25 per bust to my average CPO calculations. Now that is a minimum. Of course if I bust more I can amortize the monthly cost of my sugar site membership over the total average number of busts per month. So, my man that number (6. 25 per bust) can only go down. For me that constitutes a negligible additional expense on a per bust basis. Your budget may dictate otherwise.
Now I keep a team of sugar baby's consisting of: 1 to 3 All Time Favorites (ATF's) ; 1 to 3 Booty Calls (BC's) ; and any number of Random Fucks (RF's). So, yes joining a sugar site does require an initial capital outlay. And this capital outlay represents a opportunity to bust with a SW or BP girl. I choose to skip that one time opportunity and amortize the cost of my sugar site membership over the total number of splooge deposits I get to make inside of the orifice of my choice with my sugar babies. As I have explained this cost really doesn't make much of a difference to me.
SubCmdr out
MasterJedi
04-19-13, 03:33
That's great math. $6. 25 per pop sounds like a plan.
PartyTimeGuy
04-19-13, 13:04
Mr. Joesun1,
Sugar Daddy's who care about the numbers actually do calculate the cost of joining a sugar site into their overall CPO calculations.
For example: A sugar site costs on average 50 / month. I see a minimum of 1 sugar baby a week. I bust twice during each visit. Over 4 weeks that is 8 busts. 50/8 = 6. 25. So, at a minimum I have to add 6. 25 per bust to my average CPO calculations. Now that is a minimum. Of course if I bust more I can amortize the monthly cost of my sugar site membership over the total average number of busts per month. So, my man that number (6. 25 per bust) can only go down. For me that constitutes a negligible additional expense on a per bust basis. Your budget may dictate otherwise.
Now I keep a team of sugar baby's consisting of: 1 to 3 All Time Favorites (ATF's) ; 1 to 3 Booty Calls (BC's) ; and any number of Random Fucks (RF's). So, yes joining a sugar site does require an initial capital outlay. And this capital outlay represents a opportunity to bust with a SW or BP girl. I choose to skip that one time opportunity and amortize the cost of my sugar site membership over the total number of splooge deposits I get to make inside of the orifice of my choice with my sugar babies. As I have explained this cost really doesn't make much of a difference to me.
SubCmdr outI like your "SB team system:" ATFs, BCs and RFs. Personally I haven't found all that many ATFs but many on the BC and RF teams. Maybe I just get bored too easily.
With the site they go on why pay 40. 00 a month when you can mine CL for (FREE) right Master? I bet he didn't compute that into his CPO?Never ever had success with CL way to many scammers for me, like 99. 99 percent. The $50 / mo is well worth it, ps you can do your initial month on seekingarrangements for $25
HollywoodGuy
04-19-13, 23:01
Never ever had success with CL way to many scammers for me, like 99. 99 percent. The $50 / mo is well worth it, ps you can do your initial month on seekingarrangements for $25And when you get full up with pussy. Just cancel your membership and they will offer you a free month to come back
HollywoodGuy
04-19-13, 23:06
With the site they go on why pay 40. 00 a month when you can mine CL for (FREE) right Master? I bet he didn't compute that into his CPO?So lets see. If you get a minimum of 20 pops a month from your sd membership that works out to an extra $2 a pop. WOW. Thats a real ball buster. LOL. Oh and every girl there wants it so bad you can smell it (my favorite smell). And the % of spam messages you get on a SD site is at most 10. Not 90.
MasterJedi
04-20-13, 23:16
So lets see. If you get a minimum of 20 pops a month from your sd membership that works out to an extra $2 a pop. WOW. Thats a real ball buster. LOL. Oh and every girl there wants it so bad you can smell it (my favorite smell). And the % of spam messages you get on a SD site is at most 10. Not 90.Ball Buster? That's funny. If you have one pop and spend. 5 for the membership is not so good as far as CPO. 2 or 3 pops will contribute less for CPO, but other perspective is you can get another pop for. 5 (rather than paying for the membership) if you look around.
HollywoodGuy
04-21-13, 00:56
Ball Buster? That's funny. If you have one pop and spend. 5 for the membership is not so good as far as CPO. 2 or 3 pops will contribute less for CPO, but other perspective is you can get another pop for. 5 (rather than paying for the membership) if you look around.Well being the semi disabled old guy that I am. I only get one pop per session. So my CPO is always going to be higher than the younger / more able? Guys. I just try to find girls that like it long and hard in every way. The longer the session the happier the ending. Warning. Don't get old. LOL
MasterJedi
04-21-13, 02:13
Well being the semi disabled old guy that I am. I only get one pop per session. So my CPO is always going to be higher than the younger / more able? Guys. I just try to find girls that like it long and hard in every way. The longer the session the happier the ending. Warning. Don't get old. LOLThanks for the warning about getting old. Try to taking breaks in between. I like to take it out of the pussy and pop it back their mouth, let them play with it, that gets me at least 10 more minutes of playing time, works every time.
Source SA: Sydney Profile #1472245.
Just spoke to Sydney. She is a lovely young lady that supports herself and her kid through dancing. She wants $1000 / meet for the first time. And $800 / meet for future ones if she likes you. Says that anyone who will not meet her price is only interested in "cheap" women. Says she can make that kind of money in one night doing nothing. Drives a nice car and has a expensive life style. Only does this because she would like a steady income on the side. Wow!
Exactly who is funding this craziness! Enjoy your strip clubs gentleman LOL!
SubCmdr
Started at the Yard House (Inside the Red Rock) she was already inside having a drink. She had on a form fitting dress that hit thigh high with 4' platform heels. She was dressed to impress. Her blue dress contrasted nicely with her natural blonde hair. Nice ass and some serious dick sucking lips (which I found out were like pillows). She insisted on passionate kiss when I arrived at the bar.
Then off to the Sedona Restaurant for Brunch. It was quite the bougie place. But there were lots of hot women all dressed up in short dresses and high heels. We oogled them equally (She is into women). That was fun! We sat outside on this lovely day and talked for hours. It was also nice to be out with a woman where it actually looked we were on a regular date.
Then I made a rookie mistake. I went to the wrong hotel! Well you ask how can that happen. I've got five different hotel reservations for the trip with Ms. Canada. I threw this in at the last minute. We had discussed two different hotels that would be close to her and I booked one but went to the other. When you are running them like I do you need a personal assistant to work your schedule and logistics.
The main event consisted of three busts (Two in her mouth & in her pussy). GFE; Missionary & Doggy style; Requests for nipple biting; Requests for ass slapping; Requests for hair pulling; Requests for harder and deeper penetration; Requests for finger fucking until she came; Lots of OMG; And 'Daddy I'm about to cum again. ' No requests denied; Complete satisfaction achieved;
Slipped her 'gift' into her purse while she was in the bathroom. She is my new ATF1 if I can get her to stay in the game. Received a text afterwards that she had a great day. Then received a text later saying that she doesn't think she can do the sugar dating thing. She can't believe she just got paid for sex!
That gentlemen is why I pursue the babies! Because if you chase the right ones you are not dealing with professionals with a 100, 000 miles on their P4P pussy. You are getting one just off the factory floor and taking them out for a test drive. And they want to be driven hard. We would say in high performance driving school, a squealing tire is a happy tire!
Subcmdr
Time on Station (TOS) = total amount of time of the date.
Time in hole (TIH) = total amount of time behind closed doors.
Cost Per Orgasm (CPO) = Total cost of the encounter / number of orgasms achieved.
Face / Body / Attitude (F / B/A) = Ratings of each one of those characteristics.
This is how I will making the quantitative evaluation of my Sugar World encounters from this point on. All are welcome to use this format.
Subcmdr
Craven Morhead
04-22-13, 17:53
Started at the Yard House (Inside the Red Rock) she was already inside having a drink. She had on a form fitting dress that hit thigh high with 4' platform heels. She was dressed to impress. Her blue dress contrasted nicely with her natural blonde hair. Nice ass and some serious dick sucking lips (which I found out were like pillows). She insisted on passionate kiss when I arrived at the bar.
Then off to the Sedona Restaurant for Brunch. It was quite the bougie place. But there were lots of hot women all dressed up in short dresses and high heels. We oogled them equally (She is into women). That was fun! We sat outside on this lovely day and talked for hours. It was also nice to be out with a woman where it actually looked we were on a regular date.
Then I made a rookie mistake. I went to the wrong hotel! Well you ask how can that happen. I've got five different hotel reservations for the trip with Ms. Canada. I threw this in at the last minute. We had discussed two different hotels that would be close to her and I booked one but went to the other. When you are running them like I do you need a personal assistant to work your schedule and logistics.
The main event consisted of three busts (Two in her mouth & in her pussy). GFE; Missionary & Doggy style; Requests for nipple biting; Requests for ass slapping; Requests for hair pulling; Requests for harder and deeper penetration; Requests for finger fucking until she came; Lots of OMG; And 'Daddy I'm about to cum again. ' No requests denied; Complete satisfaction achieved;
Slipped her 'gift' into her purse while she was in the bathroom. She is my new ATF1 if I can get her to stay in the game. Received a text afterwards that she had a great day. Then received a text later saying that she doesn't think she can do the sugar dating thing. She can't believe she just got paid for sex!
That gentlemen is why I pursue the babies! Because if you chase the right ones you are not dealing with professionals with a 100, 000 miles on their P4P pussy. You are getting one just off the factory floor and taking them out for a test drive. And they want to be driven hard. We would say in high performance driving school, a squealing tire is a happy tire!
SubcmdrI wish, I had the time and was a long distance runner. I love those hot sexy milfs.
Started at the Yard House (Inside the Red Rock) she was already inside having a drink. She had on a form fitting dress that hit thigh high with 4' platform heels. She was dressed to impress. Her blue dress contrasted nicely with her natural blonde hair. Nice ass and some serious dick sucking lips (which I found out were like pillows). She insisted on passionate kiss when I arrived at the bar.
Then off to the Sedona Restaurant for Brunch. It was quite the bougie place. But there were lots of hot women all dressed up in short dresses and high heels. We oogled them equally (She is into women). That was fun! We sat outside on this lovely day and talked for hours. It was also nice to be out with a woman where it actually looked we were on a regular date.
Then I made a rookie mistake. I went to the wrong hotel! Well you ask how can that happen. I've got five different hotel reservations for the trip with Ms. Canada. I threw this in at the last minute. We had discussed two different hotels that would be close to her and I booked one but went to the other. When you are running them like I do you need a personal assistant to work your schedule and logistics.
The main event consisted of three busts (Two in her mouth & in her pussy). GFE; Missionary & Doggy style; Requests for nipple biting; Requests for ass slapping; Requests for hair pulling; Requests for harder and deeper penetration; Requests for finger fucking until she came; Lots of OMG; And 'Daddy I'm about to cum again. ' No requests denied; Complete satisfaction achieved;
Slipped her 'gift' into her purse while she was in the bathroom. She is my new ATF1 if I can get her to stay in the game. Received a text afterwards that she had a great day. Then received a text later saying that she doesn't think she can do the sugar dating thing. She can't believe she just got paid for sex!
That gentlemen is why I pursue the babies! Because if you chase the right ones you are not dealing with professionals with a 100, 000 miles on their P4P pussy. You are getting one just off the factory floor and taking them out for a test drive. And they want to be driven hard. We would say in high performance driving school, a squealing tire is a happy tire!
SubcmdrWhats the damage?
Member #5570
04-22-13, 20:11
Thanks for the warning about getting old. Try to taking breaks in between. I like to take it out of the pussy and pop it back their mouth, let them play with it, that gets me at least 10 more minutes of playing time, works every time.This would have the opposite affect on me. I would burst immediately after taking out of theirbpussy and stick it in their mouth.
Good report Subcmdr. Well written as usual. I am glad to see that you have turned over a new leaf. It's enough to make one feel like becoming a SD. Well, maybe not.
I wish, I had the time and was a long distance runner. I love those hot sexy milfs.
Went to Yard House then Sedona . received a text later saying that she doesn't think she can do the sugar dating thing. She can't believe she just got paid for sex!K got to check out sedona now LOL. So what was the arrangement you made up front with her?
HollywoodGuy
04-22-13, 22:00
Time on Station (TOS) = total amount of time of the date.
Time in hole (TIH) = total amount of time behind closed doors.
Cost Per Orgasm (CPO) = Total cost of the encounter / number of orgasms achieved.
Face / Body / Attitude (F / B/A) = Ratings of each one of those characteristics.
This is how I will making the quantitative evaluation of my Sugar World encounters from this point on. All are welcome to use this format.
SubcmdrSince we are setting up the parameters for better overall reviews can we change that to face / body / attitude / skills? So a 40 possible total points scale?
HollywoodGuy
04-22-13, 22:02
This would have the opposite affect on me. I would burst immediately after taking out of theirbpussy and stick it in their mouth.Wait till you turn sixty. I promise you it won't be a problem.
HollywoodGuy
04-22-13, 22:06
Started at the Yard House (Inside the Red Rock) she was already inside having a drink. She had on a form fitting dress that hit thigh high with 4' platform heels. She was dressed to impress. Her blue dress contrasted nicely with her natural blonde hair. Nice ass and some serious dick sucking lips (which I found out were like pillows). She insisted on passionate kiss when I arrived at the bar.
Then off to the Sedona Restaurant for Brunch. It was quite the bougie place. But there were lots of hot women all dressed up in short dresses and high heels. We oogled them equally (She is into women). That was fun! We sat outside on this lovely day and talked for hours. It was also nice to be out with a woman where it actually looked we were on a regular date.
Then I made a rookie mistake. I went to the wrong hotel! Well you ask how can that happen. I've got five different hotel reservations for the trip with Ms. Canada. I threw this in at the last minute. We had discussed two different hotels that would be close to her and I booked one but went to the other. When you are running them like I do you need a personal assistant to work your schedule and logistics.
The main event consisted of three busts (Two in her mouth & in her pussy). GFE; Missionary & Doggy style; Requests for nipple biting; Requests for ass slapping; Requests for hair pulling; Requests for harder and deeper penetration; Requests for finger fucking until she came; Lots of OMG; And 'Daddy I'm about to cum again. ' No requests denied; Complete satisfaction achieved;
Slipped her 'gift' into her purse while she was in the bathroom. She is my new ATF1 if I can get her to stay in the game. Received a text afterwards that she had a great day. Then received a text later saying that she doesn't think she can do the sugar dating thing. She can't believe she just got paid for sex!
That gentlemen is why I pursue the babies! Because if you chase the right ones you are not dealing with professionals with a 100, 000 miles on their P4P pussy. You are getting one just off the factory floor and taking them out for a test drive. And they want to be driven hard. We would say in high performance driving school, a squealing tire is a happy tire!
SubcmdrAwesome. And you are right. In every way. At this point I am having a hard or not so hard time deleting the pros out of my spreadsheet waiting list
Since we are setting up the parameters for better overall reviews can we change that to face / body / attitude / skills? So a 40 possible total points scale?HG,
Good plan!
Face / Body / Attitude / Skill a ten point scale for each category for a total of 40 point total score.
SubCmdr
We doing our own version of QE up in here!
TOS: 6 hours 20 minutes.
TIH: 2 hours 40 minutes.
CPO: $58. 06.
F / B/A / S: 10/6/10/10; Total Score = 36.
Yes, Gentleman! As you can tell by my score: This one rocked my world. I received notification that although I provided her with an exceptional experience; she can't see me anymore and is leaving the game.
I don't chase the babies because it is easy. I chase the babies because they make me hard!
Subcmdr
P. S. Sedona Restaurant was a excellent setting. But the food was just ok. And was overpriced for the quality and quantity received. I used a Groupon (yes, right in front of her) because the Commander's pockets are not fat. I would only return if I had a Groupon. If ever questioned by a SB about trying to save money. My response is every dollar I save I one more that I can spend on you!
HollywoodGuy
04-23-13, 04:41
We doing our own version of QE up in here!
TOS: 6 hours 20 minutes.
TIH: 2 hours 40 minutes.
CPO: $58. 06.
F / B/A / S: 10/6/10/10; Total Score = 36.
Yes, Gentleman! As you can tell by my score: This one rocked my world. I received notification that although I provided her with an exceptional experience; she can't see me anymore and is leaving the game.
I don't chase the babies because it is easy. I chase the babies because they make me hard!
Subcmdr.
P. S. Sedona Restaurant was a excellent setting. But the food was just ok. And was overpriced for the quality and quantity received. I used a Groupon (yes, right in front of her) because the Commander's pockets are not fat. I would only return if I had a Groupon. If ever questioned by a SB about trying to save money. My response is every dollar I save I one more that I can spend on you!I like this as a smart early interview analysis. As time goes on the factors will have to be weighted over multiple dates for the regulars. This morning I dropped $123 on makeup after a satisfying hookup with babe 1. I spent 4 hours with babe 2 and spent nothing (only minor hooking up). In the evening I paid babe 3 $.6 but had to get a room for another $.6 (awesome hookup). But those numbers could be half of that on another day. Today they were generally in need. Tomorrow they may not be. So today I was almost triple over budget. Tomorrow the full day and night is probably going to be around $40 for 24 hours total with my newest regular. and the day. And occasionally I take a day off.
For rating my regulars where 90% of my cash is going, I figure it on a monthly basis only. i
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HollywoodGuy
04-24-13, 01:51
Saw "the little princess" today. Spent 7 hours with her with 1 hour of it in bed. Her dinner was $35. That's all she wrote.
BigBubbaBobby
04-24-13, 06:18
Source SA: Sydney Profile #1472245.
Just spoke to Sydney. She is a lovely young lady that supports herself and her kid through dancing. She wants $1000 / meet for the first time. And $800 / meet for future ones if she likes you. Says that anyone who will not meet her price is only interested in "cheap" women. Says she can make that kind of money in one night doing nothing. Drives a nice car and has a expensive life style. Only does this because she would like a steady income on the side. Wow!
Exactly who is funding this craziness! Enjoy your strip clubs gentleman LOL!
SubCmdrOr, you could go see her dance first to see if you like her before dropping $1k on the first meet!
http://palominoclublv.com/portfolio_1/velvet/
Text I received from a POT SB here in Vegas in response to a request for a second date after meeting her for drinks:
"Thanks actually no. I met a guy last night that gave me 100 to show up 200 as a left because he loved me and 200 to meet up with him a couple hours after to go to dinner. That's a good sd :-D and I didn't have to do anything and now we're going to breakfast and shopping and he hasn't layed 1 hand on me yet. That's a real arrangement."
Are you kidding me? Who does this?
Subcmdr
No one in his right mind would drop a grand for one meeting for a Sugar Baby. Unless he is rich or just does not care about money. Maybe a grand for 5 meets or even 10 meets but not for one! And at least two nuts per meet.
I have been in the sugar bowl for a short time and by no means do I consider myself an expert like some of the mongers on this site. And I have not ever considered spending that much. The most I ever paid for one meet was 300 and that was my first time out of the gate and that was with a 9 + blonde haired blue eyed stripper gorgeous. 28 yo. Fucked me like I was the last man on earth.
But then I found out about the bowl and literally thousands of available babies. And I never looked back.
Oh and I correct myself I did pay a grand one time. And it was for a month of fucking / dating / laughing with / enjoying the company of what I consider a Class A woman. Beautiful in every way, looks, attitude, spirit, and skills. It was worth every penny and I would do it again in a heartbeat.
The stripper below. I could almost guarantee. Would be a huge disappointment. She would be demanding, conceited, and not even act like she likes it. My babies try to please me, they tell me how much they admire me, how good looking I am. Talk to me like a person. They are excited to spend time with me. And they are not trying to work me.
Now you may say. They are just bullshitting me and that is their job. Possibly. I doubt it but possibly. Can anyone here say that their wife does not do the same thing?
Revvo
HollywoodGuy
04-24-13, 21:01
243933Saw may 19 year old baby today $.8 total. 8 hours total time 1 hour in the bedroom. I am only posting so that you can see the differing amounts on different days. So far this month we have spent 9 days together with I think 1 overnite. Total tab so far $$$$$$ or about $67 per visit. I have read many posts talking about e-volvment or the lack there of.
I spend at least an hour a visit just cuddling, which I love. I am not married so any love I get is going to come from a baby. Which I need. I am her everything, which can be a big responsibility but I like it. The more e-volvement the less expensive the girl. A girl with no emotional needs is going to want more cash.
Craven Morhead
04-24-13, 21:43
243933
Saw may 19 year old baby today $.8 total. 8 hours total time 1 hour in the bedroom. I am only posting so that you can see the differing amounts on different days. So far this month we have spent 9 days together with I think 1 overnite. Total tab so far $$$$$$ or about $67 per visit. I have read many posts talking about e-volvment or the lack there of.
I spend at least an hour a visit just cuddling, which I love. I am not married so any love I get is going to come from a baby. Which I need. I am her everything, which can be a big responsibility but I like it. The more e-volvement the less expensive the girl. A girl with no emotional needs is going to want more cash.When cuddling or any conversation, what does a 19 whyear old talk about? I get the sex part of it, just don't think I could relate much to a 19 whyear old I'm on the wrong side of 50.
I am a big fan of the cuddling thing myself.
Sometimes it is pillow talk. Sometimes I just tell them about my day. I find that my SBs genuinely are interested I what I have to say. Very intelligent and can talk about anything I want to.
But I never try to make it a big intellectual conversation anyway. Not the right forum.
Revvo
HollywoodGuy
04-25-13, 02:18
When cuddling or any conversation, what does a 19 whyear old talk about? I get the sex part of it, just don't think I could relate much to a 19 whyear old I'm on the wrong side of 50.I am very immature for my age (59). LOL. Just a teenager at heart. Kinda missed out a little on my teen years due to circumstances beyond my control. Also have an insatiable desire to help the weak and needy. Young girls like to talk about what all girls really want to talk about. How they feel about stuff. Just when they get older maybe they keep their mouth shut because they know you don't really want to hear it. If you want to score big with any girl. Be a good listener.
HollywoodGuy
04-25-13, 03:32
No one in his right mind would drop a grand for one meeting for a Sugar Baby. Unless he is rich or just does not care about money. Maybe a grand for 5 meets or even 10 meets but not for one! And at least two nuts per meet.Http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1192003/High-class-prostitute-court-shooting-billionaire-banker-lover-dead.html
I think this guy overpaid
Johhny Quest
04-25-13, 10:20
Remember that NY Gov?
Talk about over paying? Remember that New Yack governor who resigned and became a CNN news anchor? Eliot Spitzer.
The Gov guy over paid and still got caught. The hooker got $1, 000 to $5, 000 per hour!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/10/spitzer/
Http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1192003/High-class-prostitute-court-shooting-billionaire-banker-lover-dead.html
I think this guy overpaid
Dirty Old Guy
04-25-13, 19:25
$1000 to $5000 per HOUR? WOW Now THAT is some expensive pussy!
Remember that NY Gov?
Talk about over paying? Remember that New Yack governor who resigned and became a CNN news anchor? Eliot Spitzer.
The Gov guy over paid and still got caught. The hooker got $1, 000 to $5, 000 per hour!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/10/spitzer/
HollywoodGuy
04-25-13, 21:28
$1000 to $5000 per HOUR? WOW Now THAT is some expensive pussy!I used to date a girl who I met on SD4ME that started out at 18 getting 2k an hour from a rich asian guy. Then she moved down to 2k a month. I got her for $ a date. When they are white, young and fresh and not on any drugs sometimes they can get a lot. Now she is on BP and struggling because she can"t get any repeaters due to drug habit.
Hollywood,
I spent some really good quality time with my little Asian ATF. It was great. I was reading your piece on your princess.
Question. What kind of stuff do you guys do together other than the FC? We had lunch went for walks, went to get ice cream.
What do you guys do?
Trying to round things out a little.
Revvo
Diamondman
04-25-13, 22:45
Text I received from a POT SB here in Vegas in response to a request for a second date after meeting her for drinks:
"Thanks actually no. I met a guy last night that gave me 100 to show up 200 as a left because he loved me and 200 to meet up with him a couple hours after to go to dinner. That's a good sd :-D and I didn't have to do anything and now we're going to breakfast and shopping and he hasn't layed 1 hand on me yet. That's a real arrangement."
Are you kidding me? Who does this?
SubcmdrA Real idiot this guy. Talk about ruining the SD-SB system. I usually start with $ for a few hours, overnight $$. That's it. Any other extras would come over time when you spend time with them
HollywoodGuy
04-25-13, 23:47
A Real idiot this guy. Talk about ruining the SD-SB system. I usually start with $ for a few hours, overnight $$. That's it. Any other extras would come over time when you spend time with themWho does this. Many possibilities. Recently divorced, has a company expense account, likes to think of himself as a big man (due to minor endowment) , unattractive, premature ejaculator, can't get it up at all (due to medical reasons). And I am sure there are other reasons as well. He is not ruining it for anyone, because those GPS girls aren"t usually very interesting anyway. Until they see daylight, then they either drop out of the game or fall into line
243933
Saw may 19 year old baby today $.8 total. 8 hours total time 1 hour in the bedroom. I am only posting so that you can see the differing amounts on different days. So far this month we have spent 9 days together with I think 1 overnite. Total tab so far $$$$$$ or about $67 per visit. I have read many posts talking about e-volvment or the lack there of.
I spend at least an hour a visit just cuddling, which I love. I am not married so any love I get is going to come from a baby. Which I need. I am her everything, which can be a big responsibility but I like it. The more e-volvement the less expensive the girl. A girl with no emotional needs is going to want more cash.HG,
Did you and the SubCm both move to Vegas? We have to meet somewhere late next month and go over the SD4ME crash course. I will invite JohnnQ, Dirty, Zappa, and Panther and any other reputable guys for coffee and donuts, my treat.
PC out
HollywoodGuy
04-26-13, 00:02
HG,
Did you and the SubCm both move to Vegas? We have to meet somewhere late next month and go over the SD4ME crash course. I will invite JohnnQ, Dirty, Zappa, and Panther and any other reputable guys for coffee and donuts, my treat.
PC outI live in L. A. But got friendly with Subcommander. And only do SD girls. And there is so little info on this site that I am in all 3 threads, vegas, L. A, richmond. Been to vegas many time but not recently. We could do a conference call. I've been using a free conference call line from freeeconferencecall. Com for the past year. Set it up and I, ll talk to you there. Can't use my companies account. But it is free
Cuddling: Big Plus
I am a big fan of the cuddling thing myself. _ Sometimes it is pillow talk. Sometimes I just tell them about my day. I find that my SBs genuinely are interested I what I have to say. Very intelligent and can talk about anything I want to. _ But I never try to make it a big intellectual conversation anyway. Not the right forum.
RevvoIf You are having to maintain a "cover"identity to maintain Your security then talking about Your "day" could expose Your real-life identity which could lead to all kinds of major disasters!
Dirty Old Guy
04-26-13, 08:04
PC,
I'll be in town from the 15th through the 21st. After I'm broke because I've spent all my money on the tables, green fees and pussy, I'll be happy to have a cup of coffee and a donut with you and the guys. I'll need the nourishment! :D
Dirty
HG,
Did you and the SubCm both move to Vegas? We have to meet somewhere late next month and go over the SD4ME crash course. I will invite JohnnQ, Dirty, Zappa, and Panther and any other reputable guys for coffee and donuts, my treat.
PC out
PC,
I'll be in town from the 15th through the 21st. After I'm broke because I've spent all my money on the tables, green fees and pussy, I'll be happy to have a cup of coffee and a donut with you and the guys. I'll need the nourishment! .
Dirtywon't be back till 5-30. Then June 21st DOG.
Any takers then SubC, HG?
PC out
I live in L. A. But got friendly with Subcommander. And only do SD girls. And there is so little info on this site that I am in all 3 threads, vegas, L. A, richmond. Been to vegas many time but not recently. We could do a conference call. I've been using a free conference call line from freeeconferencecall. Com for the past year. Set it up and I, ll talk to you there. Can't use my companies account. But it is freeHG,
In LA abunch as well since I live there too LOL.
Perhaps we can grab a coffee in WeHo sometime and I can take the 30 mins course and coffee and Scone is on me.
PC out
won't be back till 5-30. Then June 21st DOG.
Any takers then SubC, HG?
PC outMr. PC,
I am in for SD4m users conference in LV 5/30 or after. I am also game for a conference call.
SubCmdr
HollywoodGuy
04-26-13, 12:23
HG,
In LA abunch as well since I live there too LOL.
Perhaps we can grab a coffee in WeHo sometime and I can take the 30 mins course and coffee and Scone is on me.
PC outI am not too far from WeHo. Like 20 minutes. I am in east hollywood. 10 minutes from dwntwn. Breakfast at the standard is always cool. Or I will meander over to you.
PC,
I'll be in town from the 15th through the 21st. After I'm broke because I've spent all my money on the tables, green fees and pussy, I'll be happy to have a cup of coffee and a donut with you and the guys. I'll need the nourishment! .
DirtyBefore you get to those donuts you better survive your trip first! .
Dirty Old Guy
04-27-13, 07:58
Joe,
Well, since Pc is going to be out of town when I'm there, then YOU need to buy the donuts so I have the sustenance to survive the trip.
All that golf and pussy is going to wear my old ass out! :D
Dirty
Before you get to those donuts you better survive your trip first! .
I am not too far from WeHo. Like 20 minutes. I am in east hollywood. 10 minutes from dwntwn. Breakfast at the standard is always cool. Or I will meander over to you.I will pm you later.
PC out
HollywoodGuy
05-06-13, 01:39
I will pm you later.
PC outWhere are all the vegas posts? No juicy SD stories? If I lived in vegas I would be bangin. I like AA and mixed spinners mostly. And I see a lot them posting, and a lot of them are HCG's. Wassup ? The CG's are gettin all the action. These girls are starving for attention. And rent is like 1/3 of los angeles. I would rent like a 3 bedroom apt for $1000 and put 3 different girls in there. LOL
I swear that would work
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I'd like to see some more discussion on this topic.
I joined up on SA the other day, and so far no luck. I'd really like a genuine young SB, and not a working pro. So far the only one that's given me her number was a pro. Even though I think she's smoking hot, I'd rather wade through the civilians first. I had two more that seemed all revved up for a meet and greet, and then disappeared. Any tips for a horny married bastard like myself?
Longtime lurker, first time poster. I'd like to see some more discussion on this topic.
I joined up on SA the other day, and so far no luck. I'd really like a genuine young SB, and not a working pro. So far the only one that's given me her number was a pro. Even though I think she's smoking hot, I'd rather wade through the civilians first. I had two more that seemed all revved up for a meet and greet, and then disappeared. Any tips for a horny married bastard like myself?The Richmond VA forum has an excellent (very long) thread on this topic. It is full of good advice that should translate to wherever you are.
The Richmond VA forum has an excellent (very long) thread on this topic. It is full of good advice that should translate to wherever you are.Thank you, sir. That should keep me busy for a while.
HollywoodGuy
05-20-13, 04:24
Hey guys, After a quick search I came up with these pot SB's. Go for it. And let us know the results. If I lived there I would message them all.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2639322-LovelyFendi-Las-Vegas-Nevada-SugarBaby. Probly UTR. But hot.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2633617-fergieth-Las-Vegas-Nevada-SugarBaby. Worth hitting up.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2572491-Goldenmorgan-Las-Vegas-Nevada-SugarBaby. Fuck yeah.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2027196-CaramelCakesXO-Las-Vegas--Nevada-SugarBaby. I"m down.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2594255-lamour83-Las-Vegas-NV-SugarBaby. Easy money.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2618681-karamelkandie-Las-Vegas-Nevada-SugarBaby. Worth a try.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2521771-SimplyHunny-Las-Vegas-Nevada-SugarBaby. MILF.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2609373-Malia91-Las-Vegas-Nevada-SugarBaby. Thick and ready.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2606430-_sealion-Las-Vegas-Nevada-SugarBaby. AA hippy chick.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2602534-badgirl541-Henderson--Nevada--SugarBaby. Catch her if you can
The following lovely lady wants 300 / hr (no anal)
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3821113&from=mail_list
SubCmdr out
MasterJedi
06-09-13, 20:06
She advertise with 'just your tattooed girl next door seeking a real sugar daddy'.
Got in touch with her and made arrangement for $$ first trial and to be negotiated for more meeting later.
Being that she claims to be SB is more like escort provider and I can get it for cheaper.
She is 23 yo. 5"2 125lbs and busty with waist length blonde hair tattoos and piercings.
Nothing special.
So I have been on SA for a week looking at LV opportunities. I am getting a lot of responses, phone numbers, and emails. I haven't started calling the phone numbers yet, but I have gotten some offers.
I was wondering if the photos are mostly fake or mostly real. Most are in the more attractive range (maybe TGTBT.) I didn't know if the agencies have started co-opting the sugar sites yet or if there were a bunch of fakes out there. Can someone let me know if these sites are semi-reliable of photos. Thanks.
I noticed that we have discussed 2 Sugar sites here, SD4M and SA but have not discussed Arrangement Finders.
I looked at SD4M and it seemed old and the search seems limited. SA has much better search. But doesn't seem to be mentioned as often. I had success on SA a few months ago and I'll post that story later (its not Vegas related, just SA related).
Can somebody please explain why one is better than another.
Member #5570
09-13-13, 18:55
I noticed that we have discussed 2 Sugar sites here, SD4M and SA but have not discussed Arrangement Finders.
I looked at SD4M and it seemed old and the search seems limited. SA has much better search. But doesn't seem to be mentioned as often. I had success on SA a few months ago and I'll post that story later (its not Vegas related, just SA related).
Can somebody please explain why one is better than another.You might as well throw in WYP, Tagged, Cupid, FB, and many others.
From what I've seen, it really is based on the markets you're in. In my areas, I find SA to have the best quality SBs, and the most. But others are having great luck with SD4M and almost hunt there exclusively.
I was wondering if the photos are mostly fake or mostly real. Most are in the more attractive range (maybe TGTBT.) I didn't know if the agencies have started co-opting the sugar sites yet or if there were a bunch of fakes out there. Can someone let me know if these sites are semi-reliable of photos. Thanks.I pull the large majority of my sugar babies in Vegas from SA (and around the country for that matter). And I have not had one incident where the woman was not fairly represented by their picture. Nor I'm I experiencing any problems with pros.
SubCmdr
I noticed that we have discussed 2 Sugar sites here, SD4M and SA but have not discussed Arrangement Finders.
I looked at SD4M and it seemed old and the search seems limited. SA has much better search. But doesn't seem to be mentioned as often. I had success on SA a few months ago and I'll post that story later (its not Vegas related, just SA related).
Can somebody please explain why one is better than another.The best sugar site is the one that works for you. And you will only figure that out by signing up and working them for a bit to see if you can get the response you desire.
I like both SD4M and SA. But the stats show that I have better success with SA. The woman are hotter and I get a better response. No problems with GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome) for me on SA. I know how to screen.
PM for details on how I work the sugar sites and how a visitor can work them to their advantage also.
SubCmdr
Dicky Gozinya
10-10-13, 14:33
Ok if this appears off-topic I apologize in advance. I live in Vegas and my ex wife went to dealers school in Vegas. When I got home each night she would tell me about the guys that hit on her at school that day. She would mention how many guys, the kinds of offers she received, how many if the guys were married, how many didn't care she was married. She told me the line he heard from 90% of them was "Hey this is Vegas and what happens here stays here. That saying applies to locals too. No one cares what anyone does in Vegas."
So here is the reason I bring this up her: She said about 30 of the 50 come-ons she received were from guys, who lived Out of Town and who paid for the class to meet women they were interested in supporting on a PT basis. She told me she saw the guys she turned down go right over to another table and try the same with a different girl in the class. I asked her if the girls talked with each other about the guys. She said yes, but mostly about what the guys were offering and it about the guys themselves! She said no, most of the girls (the girls in the class were mostly students that wanted to get some job or way to pay for school and expenses ). She said she would see the guys in the class for about 10-classes, then thy would be gone and one of her girl-friends in he class would reduce her class attendance a day or two a week. My ex had a story about a girls almost every day. Most of the "arrangements" were out of state guys paying a low of $500 to a high of $3000 / mo. She said the girls told her "why not. I still get to have my BF at school and this is just an extra. I'm not going to be hot forever, so I should bank it now."
So what I am saying is it seems that in Vegas it's certainly extremely lucrative for students to "pay their way" thru school as a SB. If this sort of transaction is a regular occurrence at the dealer school my ex attended. My ex was not that bright so she attended 3-different schools before she finally learned enough to get a job at a casino.
The question is: anyone heard of this method of trolling for SB in other states?
Ok if this appears off-topic I apologize in advance. I live in Vegas and my ex wife went to dealers school in Vegas. When I got home each night she would tell me about the guys that hit on her at school that day. She would mention how many guys, the kinds of offers she received, how many if the guys were married, how many didn't care she was married. She told me the line he heard from 90% of them was "Hey this is Vegas and what happens here stays here. That saying applies to locals too. No one cares what anyone does in Vegas."
So here is the reason I bring this up her: She said about 30 of the 50 come-ons she received were from guys, who lived Out of Town and who paid for the class to meet women they were interested in supporting on a PT basis. She told me she saw the guys she turned down go right over to another table and try the same with a different girl in the class. I asked her if the girls talked with each other about the guys. She said yes, but mostly about what the guys were offering and it about the guys themselves! She said no, most of the girls (the girls in the class were mostly students that wanted to get some job or way to pay for school and expenses ). She said she would see the guys in the class for about 10-classes, then thy would be gone and one of her girl-friends in he class would reduce her class attendance a day or two a week. My ex had a story about a girls almost every day. Most of the "arrangements" were out of state guys paying a low of $500 to a high of $3000 / mo. She said the girls told her "why not. I still get to have my BF at school and this is just an extra. I'm not going to be hot forever, so I should bank it now."
So what I am saying is it seems that in Vegas it's certainly extremely lucrative for students to "pay their way" thru school as a SB. If this sort of transaction is a regular occurrence at the dealer school my ex attended. My ex was not that bright so she attended 3-different schools before she finally learned enough to get a job at a casino.
The question is: anyone heard of this method of trolling for SB in other states?That is a good Idea but what these students don't realize is they can get their training paid for by the state up til 10, 000 plus there's other ways to break into the industry w / o breaking your wallet.
The following lovely lady wants 300 / hr (no anal)
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3821113&from=mail_list
SubCmdr outWhats her pic code on there? Pm it if you like. Thanks. Are
Dicky Gozinya
10-11-13, 19:15
How do they apply for that free training?
That is a good Idea but what these students don't realize is they can get their training paid for by the state up til 10, 000 plus there's other ways to break into the industry w / o breaking your wallet.
How do they apply for that free training?PM Me and I'll tell you more actually I made a mistake it's not 10,000 it's up to 5,000.
To my fellow Brothers in the bowl:
I have two lovely ladies that are currently on my fuck team as booty call girls. I may have to wave or cut them due because I am having Salary Cap issues and haven't decided if I want to renegotiate their contracts.
They are professional rub and tug girls here in Vegas. If you are passing through and looking for that sort of thing holla at your boy.
There is a vetting process. So if you roll up on me and don't Act Right, don't expect to automatically hear from me or get a referral.
Sub Cmdr.
To my fellow Brothers in the bowl:
I have two lovely ladies that are currently on my fuck team as booty call girls. I may have to wave or cut them due because I am having Salary Cap issues and haven't decided if I want to renegotiate their contracts.
They are professional rub and tug girls here in Vegas. If you are passing through and looking for that sort of thing holla at your boy.
There is a vetting process. So if you roll up on me and don't Act Right, don't expect to automatically hear from me or get a referral.
Sub Cmdr.Can you share what your allowance is for these ladies, and how old, young are & Tor older are&T.
Good for comparison shopping.
To my fellow Brothers in the bowl:
I have two lovely ladies that are currently on my fuck team as booty call girls. They are professional rub and tug girls here in Vegas. If you are passing through and looking for that sort of thing holla at your boy.
There is a vetting process.
Sub Cmdr.I found out today that one of them is full service (never asked if she was a stone cold pro). The other is strictly HE. But she has a girlfriend that will do more. All of them are Latina's. Let me know via PM if you are interested.
Mr. Commander please empty your mailbox.
HollywoodGuy
03-16-14, 16:12
Ok if this appears off-topic I apologize in advance. I live in Vegas and my ex wife went to dealers school in Vegas. When I got home each night she would tell me about the guys that hit on her at school that day. She would mention how many guys, the kinds of offers she received, how many if the guys were married, how many didn't care she was married. She told me the line he heard from 90% of them was "Hey this is Vegas and what happens here stays here. That saying applies to locals too. No one cares what anyone does in Vegas."
So here is the reason I bring this up her: She said about 30 of the 50 come-ons she received were from guys, who lived Out of Town and who paid for the class to meet women they were interested in supporting on a PT basis. She told me she saw the guys she turned down go right over to another table and try the same with a different girl in the class. I asked her if the girls talked with each other about the guys. She said yes, but mostly about what the guys were offering and it about the guys themselves! She said no, most of the girls (the girls in the class were mostly students that wanted to get some job or way to pay for school and expenses ). She said she would see the guys in the class for about 10-classes, then thy would be gone and one of her girl-friends in he class would reduce her class attendance a day or two a week. My ex had a story about a girls almost every day. Most of the "arrangements" were out of state guys paying a low of $500 to a high of $3000 / mo. She said the girls told her "why not. I still get to have my BF at school and this is just an extra. I'm not going to be hot forever, so I should bank it now."
So what I am saying is it seems that in Vegas it's certainly extremely lucrative for students to "pay their way" thru school as a SB. If this sort of transaction is a regular occurrence at the dealer school my ex attended. My ex was not that bright so she attended 3-different schools before she finally learned enough to get a job at a casino.
The question is: anyone heard of this method of trolling for SB in other states?Not really. But college girls that range all the way from first timers to hard core pros are all over the place. In any city you go to. Especially the ones in the slightly lower income areas.
HollywoodGuy
04-20-14, 22:38
Just posting to say Hi and hope all is well. You would think there would be a lot of sugar posts in vegas. I used to cruise the ads just to see all the HCB's in that area.
Just posting to say Hi and hope all is well. You would think there would be a lot of sugar posts in vegas. I used to cruise the ads just to see all the HCB's in that area.Hey brother,
I've gone international. Don't really have time for the sugar bowl when I'm in country. All of my adventures are off shore now. Don't have much to share for this area other than insights into techniques and phycology. But techniques for penetrating non-pros transcend boarders. But bring your language skills. Women are communicators. And you need to communicate with them in there language to get POF (panties on floor).
For all who don't know was my mentor in the sugarworld when I moved to the west coast. Got my CPO (cost per orgasm) down to $ or less at times.
Big props to you my man.
Member #5570
11-22-15, 14:16
Hey brother,
I've gone international. Don't really have time for the sugar bowl when I'm in country. All of my adventures are off shore now. Don't have much to share for this area other than insights into techniques and phycology. But techniques for penetrating non-pros transcend boarders. But bring your language skills. Women are communicators. And you need to communicate with them in there language to get POF (panties on floor).
For all who don't know was my mentor in the sugarworld when I moved to the west coast. Got my CPO (cost per orgasm) down to $ or less at times.
Big props to you my man.No wonder why we haven't heard from you in ages. Glad to see you still keeping them Panties on the Floor, no matter where they might be.
Rock on bud!
LukeCoolHand
02-14-17, 11:11
Visiting your fine city for the first time in more than 10 years. Used to be a yearly trip!
A little surprised by the lack of intel on the sugar baby scene. Anyone have some back channel advice? I've already spoken with a couple young ladies.
From SA and it sounds like a promising scene.
Thanks in advance for any info!
Visiting your fine city for the first time in more than 10 years. Used to be a yearly trip!
A little surprised by the lack of intel on the sugar baby scene. Anyone have some back channel advice? I've already spoken with a couple young ladies.
From SA and it sounds like a promising scene.
Thanks in advance for any info!I had always thought Las Vegas SA was just all hookers compared to other cities. Nothing wrong with that but no need for it in a place like this.
That's not true?
Johhny Quest
04-09-17, 02:50
'I'm rich. You're hot. ' The cold mathematics of sugar daddy dating.
Article:
http://www.sfgate.com/living/article/I-m-rich-You-re-hot-The-cold-mathematics-of-6133072.php
Gentleman,
I'm back after living in the Dominican Republic for almost three years. It was straight off the chain fellas! But I'm so happy to be back I feel like Neo in the Matrix at the end of the first movie when he learns how to use his powers.
How has everyone been? Who's still running up in dem Sugar Babies? How you finding them? How much you paying them? Holla at a brother.
Subcmdr.
Gentleman,
I'm back after living in the Dominican Republic for almost three years. It was straight off the chain fellas! But I'm so happy to be back I feel like Neo in the Matrix at the end of the first movie when he learns how to use his powers.
How has everyone been? Who's still running up in dem Sugar Babies? How you finding them? How much you paying them? Holla at a brother.
Subcmdr.You are the beast anyway welcome back!
Guys I am on SA so if anyone want's help PM me I will hook you up FOC! I just don't want this month to go to waste!!
www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7707068-b2a9-4279-9f9d-f86ab34adfc0
Outstanding communication, and right on time. What a beauty when she came walking down the hallway at my hotel. Really sexy, and actually looks much younger than her posted age.
Perfect butt, natural rack with one nip pierced, and a fun personality. It was obvious from the jump that this one knew more about the art of pleasure than I would ever hope. To know. Truly skilled professional not just as a SB, but as a performance artist. If you like kink, she may teach you some things.
Menu wide open, and enhanced with many different positions. Very responsive to my requests. A great time with a great girl that didn't break the bank.
Long Gone13
09-14-17, 14:18
www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7707068-b2a9-4279-9f9d-f86ab34adfc0
Outstanding communication, and right on time. What a beauty when she came walking down the hallway at my hotel. Really sexy, and actually looks much younger than her posted age.
Perfect butt, natural rack with one nip pierced, and a fun personality. It was obvious from the jump that this one knew more about the art of pleasure than I would ever hope. To know. Truly skilled professional not just as a SB, but as a performance artist. If you like kink, she may teach you some things.
Menu wide open, and enhanced with many different positions. Very responsive to my requests. A great time with a great girl that didn't break the bank.Can you Pm me her number please?
WhatCanISay
09-14-17, 16:25
www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7707068-b2a9-4279-9f9d-f86ab34adfc0
Outstanding communication, and right on time. What a beauty when she came walking down the hallway at my hotel. Really sexy, and actually looks much younger than her posted age.
Perfect butt, natural rack with one nip pierced, and a fun personality. It was obvious from the jump that this one knew more about the art of pleasure than I would ever hope. To know. Truly skilled professional not just as a SB, but as a performance artist. If you like kink, she may teach you some things.
Menu wide open, and enhanced with many different positions. Very responsive to my requests. A great time with a great girl that didn't break the bank.That link requires you to sign in. That the only way to see her info?
WhatCanISay
09-14-17, 17:01
Whats the basic guideline with these?
If it's anything like the standard hobby listings, this would probably be LOT more difficult and scams.
WhatCanISay
09-15-17, 02:56
www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7707068-b2a9-4279-9f9d-f86ab34adfc0
Outstanding communication, and right on time. What a beauty when she came walking down the hallway at my hotel. Really sexy, and actually looks much younger than her posted age.
Perfect butt, natural rack with one nip pierced, and a fun personality. It was obvious from the jump that this one knew more about the art of pleasure than I would ever hope. To know. Truly skilled professional not just as a SB, but as a performance artist. If you like kink, she may teach you some things.
Menu wide open, and enhanced with many different positions. Very responsive to my requests. A great time with a great girl that didn't break the bank.Any way to contact her without going thru the site? Standard members can't read messages.
WhatCanISay
09-16-17, 16:30
Joined one of those sites and asked bunch of girls what they wanted. They ranged from $500 to $2000 per session!! They're delusional.
That link requires you to sign in. That the only way to see her info?You can register for an account for free.
Whats the basic guideline with these?
If it's anything like the standard hobby listings, this would probably be LOT more difficult and scams.SA, because there is a cost for guys, keeps the site running with real girls. Promise, it's worth it. Had a nice time with a waitress that dances occasionally, and the nude yoga instructor that I mentioned below. Took me a couple of hours to find the right situation for me. Still getting Vegas offers even though I've been back home for days.
Joined one of those sites and asked bunch of girls what they wanted. They ranged from $500 to $2000 per session!! They're delusional.If you joined S. A. , negotiate. One Vegas girl wanted 600 and one wanted 500. Both were happy with less than half.
Joined one of those sites and asked bunch of girls what they wanted. They ranged from $500 to $2000 per session!! They're delusional.Which site did you join? While there are many with high expectations I have found plenty to be had for $1 to $3 on SA.
WhatCanISay
09-19-17, 18:21
Which site did you join? While there are many with high expectations I have found plenty to be had for $1 to $3 on SA.SA. Most seem to ask for $300 and up. Few have settle on $100/ meet. Thats very hard to find.
WhatCanISay
09-20-17, 05:13
SA, because there is a cost for guys, keeps the site running with real girls. Promise, it's worth it. Had a nice time with a waitress that dances occasionally, and the nude yoga instructor that I mentioned below. Took me a couple of hours to find the right situation for me. Still getting Vegas offers even though I've been back home for days.That blonde nude yoga instructor wanted $500 per session. You know what I can get for $500 on Mojo? A legit model for 2 hours minimum.
On the other hand, there are many unique things about SA girls that's worth the extra money.
Joined one of those sites and asked bunch of girls what they wanted. They ranged from $500 to $2000 per session!! They're delusional.The most I ever paid was $500, but in general negotiate. They usually will go lower than their initial offer. For $2000 they better spend the whole vacation with you. I've used SA in Vegas for about 10 years now and it has averaged $250-$400 which usually get's me drinks and conversation at a bar, and then a couple of rounds in the room.
The most I ever paid was $500, but in general negotiate. They usually will go lower than their initial offer. For $2000 they better spend the whole vacation with you. I've used SA in Vegas for about 10 years now and it has averaged $250-$400 which usually get's me drinks and conversation at a bar, and then a couple of rounds in the room.For these ones you normally get for 250-400, are they hot and what age? I'll be traveling there so going to test out the SA scene there. Are they typically good to meet you in your hotel for a drink and then straight up to room?
WhatCanISay
09-26-17, 01:18
For these ones you normally get for 250-400, are they hot and what age? I'll be traveling there so going to test out the SA scene there. Are they typically good to meet you in your hotel for a drink and then straight up to room?What I've noticed about the girls on SA is that their pics are the actual girls. Maybe older pics or whatever. But they are usually the actual girls. On Mojo or CL, 90% different girls.
For these ones you normally get for 250-400, are they hot and what age? I'll be traveling there so going to test out the SA scene there. Are they typically good to meet you in your hotel for a drink and then straight up to room?$250 seems to be somewhat of a sweet spot. Have had plenty go for it, plenty of others stick to $400,500 or more per meet. At $250 most of the girls / women have been attractive, pictures usually accurate. Quite attractive women over 40, average to cute to attractive younger ones. Except for one total 18 yr old doll I can't say I've met any "Hotties" at this $ point.
As for meeting at your hotel, I'm local and can't say, but, most have been willing to meet at my place, others meet for a drink or coffee first. Based on this I think you would have no problem having them meet you for a drink and then up to the room.
Onecurious
10-27-17, 13:10
I'm a member of SA and looking for any info for my upcoming trip. Only interested in Caucasian women with slim to average build. My budget is about 250-350 per meeting. I've had a lot of success finding great company in this range before but for some reason most are wanting more this time around and the ones I saw before are no longer there. Please PM if you have any info to share.
WhatCanISay
10-29-17, 04:27
I'm a member of SA and looking for any info for my upcoming trip. Only interested in Caucasian women with slim to average build. My budget is about 250-350 per meeting. I've had a lot of success finding great company in this range before but for some reason most are wanting more this time around and the ones I saw before are no longer there. Please PM if you have any info to share.There are plenty for your price range. In fact, 95% will play with you for that range.
ShyGuy2175
10-30-17, 02:17
I agree with the range you're at. I'm in Vegas also for the Sema show this upcoming week. I had recently signed up for SA back home in Orlando, Fl before coming out here or testing out the site. Had the chance to meet up with this smoking hot red head tonight thru SA, was NOT disappointed at all. Opinions and tastes vary among us hobbyists and mongers, but as for my own taste tonights experience is definetly in the top 5. Good luck and have fun.
There are plenty for your price range. In fact, 95% will play with you for that range.
I was thinking about trying out SA for a month since I was browsing for free and came across many girls that seem like they could be interesting.
Who's actually a member or has been? Let me know the pros and cons. Your input will help me decide for or against spending the $80 to try it for a month. If there is any workaround for a trial period or discounted rate, please also let me know.
Like I said, I'm considering SA. But I will go another route if any of you fellow hobbyists have had good results with another free or less costly site.
I was thinking about trying out SA for a month since I was browsing for free and came across many girls that seem like they could be interesting.
Who's actually a member or has been? Let me know the pros and cons. Your input will help me decide for or against spending the $80 to try it for a month. If there is any workaround for a trial period or discounted rate, please also let me know.Worth it if you're in Cali (SoCal) as for Vegas it sucks again flake city! If you really must try it at the very least split the cost with someone 80 is way to high! Just a little quick tip other sugar sites you can see the girls on SA you can't so what I do from time to time is look at the other sites and I google the girl's screen name the more characters and numbers in the screen name the more hits you will get that is about as free as you'll get dating sites are the next best thing....Tinder, Meet me POF OkCupid are good for both Civi's and workers.
Worth it if you're in Cali (SoCal) as for Vegas it sucks again flake city! If you really must try it at the very least split the cost with someone 80 is way to high! Just a little quick tip other sugar sites you can see the girls on SA you can't so what I do from time to time is look at the other sites and I google the girl's screen name the more characters and numbers in the screen name the more hits you will get that is about as free as you'll get dating sites are the next best thing....Tinder, Meet me POF OkCupid are good for both Civi's and workers.Had a very positive experience with SA in Vegas. Was recently visiting for 5 nights. Had 4 chicks total, took the middle night off to gamble and rest. Dropped a grand total, almost all house money thank you very much. All 4 were ages 21-25.3 were incredibly hot, not like super model but good bodies and very eager to please. All GFE, would do bare if you wanted. The 4th was a little bigger than her photos but a complete freak so it evened out. Multiple pops with all 4. Incredible few hours with each. Very easy setup. Met for drink in my hotel then went upstairs after feeling comfortable. 1 of them was visiting from Cali, the other 3 were local. Will see the 2 local ones with good bodies again when I return. Incredible times. I highly recommend. You do have to put some work in, text a lot. Get on a similar page before meeting for date. I had a great week! Even better, on the last night after banging the last one for a few hours, picked up a girl while smoking a cig out front my hotel. Talked and drank for an hour or so then fucked her too. Just a girl visiting looking for the D. No arrangement necessary. They always come along when you least expect them to! God I love vegas!
Josephr9999
12-19-17, 11:27
We were probably on the prowl at the same time LOL. It was a grind on SA, chatted with a number of girls. The first one I met was a 25 yo Chinese girl that works security in a strip casino. Cute, smart and fun. We went to dinner and when I invited her up to my room she said "I'm not sure I'm ready for that, I just ended a LT relationship". Geez WTF. We made plans for two nights later with me thinking I'd take another run at her but I caught the flu. When she texted me if we were still on, I offered cuddling under a blanket together then she ghosted me LOL. So, I found a CG to scratch the itch instead. Most girls I chatted with were DTF but all started at least 5 bones but would come down to 3 - 4. Had one hottie that seemed a go named BabyBell or something like that. When it came time to get together she ghosted me so be warned. Hell, maybe Tom swooped her up instead LOL. On my last day early afternoon, I met a super hot 27 yo that came to my hotel for 2. 5 bones. She was fun and definitely would repeat. She liked to ride CG, said she gets off that way. She wanted 5, and asked why I was only willing to do half that to which I replied "Because most girls are in the 2 range". She said, well next time will be higher, I just caught her horny and desperate for cash & dick that day. I had 3 girls continuing to text me after I got home, seems two came down to 400, the other 300. I'd guess they'd all come down to 2. 5 to 3.
Had a very positive experience with SA in Vegas. Was recently visiting for 5 nights. Had 4 chicks total, took the middle night off to gamble and rest. Dropped a grand total, almost all house money thank you very much. All 4 were ages 21-25.3 were incredibly hot, not like super model but good bodies and very eager to please. All GFE, would do bare if you wanted. The 4th was a little bigger than her photos but a complete freak so it evened out. Multiple pops with all 4. Incredible few hours with each. Very easy setup. Met for drink in my hotel then went upstairs after feeling comfortable. 1 of them was visiting from Cali, the other 3 were local. Will see the 2 local ones with good bodies again when I return. Incredible times. I highly recommend. You do have to put some work in, text a lot. Get on a similar page before meeting for date. I had a great week! Even better, on the last night after banging the last one for a few hours, picked up a girl while smoking a cig out front my hotel. Talked and drank for an hour or so then fucked her too. Just a girl visiting looking for the D. No arrangement necessary. They always come along when you least expect them to! God I love vegas!If you got the dough to drop like that every month then yes if you're a broke (Joke) like me then I will pass. .
SpinnerLove69
01-31-18, 15:04
Hi. Been hobbling for years but it's hard to find any real connection that way. Seems this is a better way to go. But haven't dove in yet. For anyone with a SO how do you handle visits? What if your time is limited to maybe once a quarter to meet.
I read about weekly stipend vs pay per mtg. Why is the most common and how frequent do you meet?
Thanks for any guidance from a newb sugar daddy.
Hi. Been hobbling for years but it's hard to find any real connection that way. Seems this is a better way to go. But haven't dove in yet. For anyone with a SO how do you handle visits? What if your time is limited to maybe once a quarter to meet.
I read about weekly stipend vs pay per mtg. Why is the most common and how frequent do you meet?
Thanks for any guidance from a newb sugar daddy.Get a hotel room. Pay with a gift card or cash. Get one that has a bar or is near a bar. That way you can meet them for a drink first and then just walk back to your room. Set up maybe 2 or 3 for the same day. Likely at least one will flake. I only do PPM. Some will do a weekly or monthly allowance and allow you to see them as much as you want or maybe just once or twice a week. It's easier to PPM and let's face it you likely will get tired of just one. Vegas has a great SA scene. Takes some work. Message a bunch, move to text fast. You will have great success. The Richmond board on here has a section with great advice. Read all of it and you will be an expert and getting more young sexy pussy than you can handle.
Stripper Love
06-15-18, 20:21
I visit Vegas 3 to 4 times a year and there's and unbelievable amount of sugar babies on SA in this city. Just curious why there's not more reviews on this page? I plan on seeing a couple this week to get the ball rolling but I guess I just don't understand. This city is a gold mine for SB's.
I visit Vegas 3 to 4 times a year and there's and unbelievable amount of sugar babies on SA in this city. Just curious why there's not more reviews on this page? I plan on seeing a couple this week to get the ball rolling but I guess I just don't understand. This city is a gold mine for SB's.I get most of my action from SA, but usually when I travel out of town for work. Something I've noticed about SA in Vegas is that many girls suffer from "golden pussy syndrome" and will ask for a pretty unreasonable allowance given their looks and what they have to offer. Lots of options in town, but much better deals / offerings outside of Vegas in my opinion.
How do you guys get BBFS from the sa girls? Do you flat out ask or do you just go for it and they don't mind?
How do you guys get BBFS from the sa girls? Do you flat out ask or do you just go for it and they don't mind?I always ask if they're on anything to prevent it and segway the conversation from there.
I always ask if they're on anything to prevent it and segway the conversation from there.Hmmm what do you mean by prevent it? Like ask if you can BBFS when on the date or when your about to have sex? In my opinion I've had it happen randomly once was just in the moment and we didn't have any condom the other I just asked flat out right as we are having sex but she was very young and immature. But when I ask before going out it always fails. Figured there was some better way, what have you guys tried to make it work?
Hmmm what do you mean by prevent it? Like ask if you can BBFS when on the date or when your about to have sex? In my opinion I've had it happen randomly once was just in the moment and we didn't have any condom the other I just asked flat out right as we are having sex but she was very young and immature. But when I ask before going out it always fails. Figured there was some better way, what have you guys tried to make it work?Sorry, I meant I always ask if they're on some sort of contraceptive. I always ask before the initial meet to make sure we're both on the same page about what's to be expected. Maybe it's just your approach or how you're asking them?
Sorry, I meant I always ask if they're on some sort of contraceptive. I always ask before the initial meet to make sure we're both on the same page about what's to be expected. Maybe it's just your approach or how you're asking them?Hmm gotcha so you plan date pay per meet for ex she agrees to 300 for example then you ask if she's on contraceptives and whether she says yes or no it means she is down for BBFS? I just ask I'm seeking long term pay per date or more blah blah and looking for a woman I see on a regular and if she is willing to do blood work to enjoy the relationship better and most just say yes but only use condom etc. So was looking for ideas LOL but seems like your way may work its like indirectly in a way.
LasVegasWhitey
06-22-18, 15:40
Set up my SA account this week just to feel it out before dropping the 89 for the month. Thought I would ask out there to our group if anyone here has experience with Alexxxa_Xoxo? Of course as a newbie on here they toss a slew of great messages at you with the hook that you must pay to respond. This little hottie caught my eye. Tried the ol typing my phone number into a message trick LOL however they give you a STANDARD boiler plate message to send these ladies. Any help would be appreciated. TIA.
Whitey.
LvPacer1960
06-27-18, 00:51
Sorry, I meant I always ask if they're on some sort of contraceptive. I always ask before the initial meet to make sure we're both on the same page about what's to be expected. Maybe it's just your approach or how you're asking them?I rarely ask about BBFS before meets. I usually casually throw out I've had a vasectomy. When we start getting into it, I start kissing their body and going down on them. When I come back up they usually just spread their legs and let me enter bare.
Been a member of SA for years and had a lot of luck even when travelling. Any sure things on SA I should try while in town. Pm if needed. Thanks.
Josephr9999
07-02-18, 16:06
Ok you horny bastards, just spent 5 days in LV. SA appears to be the bomb. On my trip last year I met a damn near smoking hot 27 yo. Came to the room for an hour 2. 5 plus a burrito and coffee afterwards. Told me I caught her on an afternoon when she was broke and horny which is her worst enemy. We had some connection so I contacted her before my trip and we set up some fun in my room my first night. My roommate buddy was being an ass and wouldn't give up the room for us because he needed his sleep so I took her in the bathroom and ran the shower while we buried the sword on the throne in multiple positions. A few days later I took her to dinner and then we hit it in a different hotel to avoid my buddy. The rocket blew all over her back and there's pics and video. I'd classify her as semi-pro but less than other Vegas rates. She said she's considering a career at one of the Ranches, if so I'll give up the intel if that happens. Until then, she's mine because you MF's will rip her tight little package apart in short time. Sorry but a monger does have his standards LOL.
I chatted and texted with multiple SB's and it seems 300 is the going ppm. Some think there's gold between the arches and won't do less than 5. Occasionally you can find one for 2. 0. Met up with MidwestStawbrryBB. I took care of her meal and parking, wasn't interested in making an arrangement as objects in pictures are much larger in real life. She would likely be a lot of fun and an open menu but just not my tastes. She texted me multiple times after we met asking if I'd meet up with her at her place. Just wasn't my cup of tea.
Just found out about this site. Visiting LV for the first time. I've been talking with aaxol_, OliviaHartt, and The Real Catalina. Heard horror stories about LE stings. These girls legit?
I am going to be taking two vacations and two work trips in the next 9 months to Vegas and wondered how reliable the girls on the sugar sites are in Vegas? I have been talking to a couple about meeting when I am town and they seem to be legit but is the rate of working girls using the Sugar sites higher in Vegas? In St Louis. Most of the escorts have been chased from the sites so I am curious about the Vegas girls.
Oh man I just came back from a meeting with an sb want to be and I'm fucking deaf in my ears. She talked the WHOLE fucking time, I know every bill that she has and how much all of her car payments are, even her electric bill. Really? WTF! I mean she was smoking fucking hot, big titties, strong legs, a little short but the talking just fucking killed me man, OMG!! They talk thousands like every guy has a few thousands to throw out the window. Oh if I'm going to have sex it will probably be in the thousands. Getta fuck out of my face geez!! I spent about forty minutes in a cafe with her she talked probably 39 minutes, even when she ate, I bought her a sandwich she talked while she was eating as well man. I need 2 k for my rent! Excuse me, what? I had to excuse myself but I wouldn't mind doing up to two bills to hit that fine ass.
I couldn't even check her out, she was looking into my eyes the whole time while I wanted to look at her tits, great fucking tits with a jogging outfit oooooh mama, I would've fucked her right fucking there, she was hot. I barely took a glimpse at her ass when she walked to get some napkins, big ass not huge but not small either looked like I could fuck that ass until tomorrow. I wanted to have my vengeance on that ass for listening to her shit for so long. I'll keep you guys posted.
ChrisPoontang
08-10-18, 17:18
Oh man I just came back from a meeting with an sb want to be and I'm fucking deaf in my ears. She talked the WHOLE fucking time, I know every bill that she has and how much all of her car payments are, even her electric bill. Really? WTF! I mean she was smoking fucking hot, big titties, strong legs, a little short but the talking just fucking killed me man, OMG!! They talk thousands like every guy has a few thousands to throw out the window. Oh if I'm going to have sex it will probably be in the thousands. Getta fuck out of my face geez!! I spend about forty minutes in a cafe with her she talked probably 39 minutes, even when she ate, I bought her a sandwich she talked while she was eating as well man. I need 2 k for my rent! Excuse me, what? I had to excuse myself but I wouldn't mind doing up to two bills to hit that fine ass. I'll keep you guys posted.If her rent is $2 k in vegas of all places then she obviously needs to start a podcast since she loves to talk so damn much.
Oh man I just came back from a meeting with an sb want to be and I'm fucking deaf in my ears. She talked the WHOLE fucking time, I know every bill that she has and how much all of her car payments are, even her electric bill. Really? WTF! I mean she was smoking fucking hot, big titties, strong legs, a little short but the talking just fucking killed me man, OMG!! They talk thousands like every guy has a few thousands to throw out the window. Oh if I'm going to have sex it will probably be in the thousands. Getta fuck out of my face geez!! I spent about forty minutes in a cafe with her she talked probably 39 minutes, even when she ate, I bought her a sandwich she talked while she was eating as well man. I need 2 k for my rent! Excuse me, what? I had to excuse myself but I wouldn't mind doing up to two bills to hit that fine ass.
I couldn't even check her out, she was looking into my eyes the whole time while I wanted to look at her tits, great fucking tits with a jogging outfit oooooh mama, I would've fucked her right fucking there, she was hot. I barely took a glimpse at her ass when she walked to get some napkins, big ass not huge but not small either looked like I could fuck that ass until tomorrow. I wanted to have my vengeance on that ass for listening to her shit for so long. I'll keep you guys posted.Don't do it no poon is worth that torture. If you wanted that get married and attached a car battery to your nuts. She showed you her hand bro, she isn't giving it up she's going to try and squeeze a bunch of money out of you and lead you on. If she was serious there would be some open leg action after the initial bill just like every thot out there.
Just found out about this site. Visiting LV for the first time. I've been talking with aaxol_, OliviaHartt, and The Real Catalina. Heard horror stories about LE stings. These girls legit?SA in Vegas is a scam. You're correct about LE stings, entrapment, 99% fake ads. It's garbage. Took over where BP left off. Also read about lot's of guys getting their accounts canceled if they mention anything regarding money. Hell, it's a sugar daddy site. What do you expect.
I've had luck the past week on SA, but in the $$$ range for 1. 5-2 hours -- not the sort of multi-hour or all-night value SA is really known for, and also higher than the typical rates people here on the forum are shooting for I guess? I have a nice hedonism budget but am still at Splenda tier, so I'm definitely looking to convert one of these girls to something like 1. 5/ month for 2-3 x / week -- great value for me and she gets to smoke all my weed and relax by the pool on a regular basis. Hasn't happened yet, but I'm just going to spend a couple months exploring SA and probably hitting up the Strip and looking for independents to take home.
Anyway, both SA girls were SMOKING hot -- one was much cuter and younger looking than the pictures (I felt like a dirty old man and I'm 34) and another was an insanely nubile 20 year old with fantastic natural DDs. Based on the messages I'm getting there are a lot of girls who are basically semi-pro like this, they are offering slightly better than P411-level escort rates for value -- they seem legit although there are some who are double dipping with escort ads on and off as well. Discussion of exact amounts / time and services always happened once we had established that I wanted to meet that day / soon and we switched to texting. Semi-pro definitely factored in when I barebacked girl #2 without even asking and she told me to pull out because of no birth control.
It's good to be back in the game. Other intel: There are bigger fish out there; girl #1 told me she's seeing a daddy spending 5 k / month for 3 times a week. I told her to hang onto him tight.
Member #5757
09-05-18, 15:51
Hmm gotcha so you plan date pay per meet for ex she agrees to 300 for example then you ask if she's on contraceptives and whether she says yes or no it means she is down for BBFS? I just ask I'm seeking long term pay per date or more blah blah and looking for a woman I see on a regular and if she is willing to do blood work to enjoy the relationship better and most just say yes but only use condom etc. So was looking for ideas LOL but seems like your way may work its like indirectly in a way.I have had good luck on SA with some quality young women, and it's been about 50/50 using condoms or going bare. I usually will ask them that same question mentioned before about whether they take birth control, and I word it like this:
"I wanted to also ask, I'm assuming you're clean right? And are you on a form of birth control at all? I am clean and never had anything before. I also haven't had many partners since my ex-wife."
A lot of them will says "Yes and Yes" or "Yes I'm clean and on birth control" Or "Yes I'm clean but no birth control". If they say they're on it, I immediately change the subject. It's implied at that point no condom will be used and most likely be filling her young pussy up with a 4+ day saved up load of cum. LOL!
This young girl only offers a topless sensual massage with a hand finish. She keeps her panties on during. Her rate is 200 for 1 hour.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4917b8a5-848a-4a70-9b6d-8e3fb764945b
MongerHalic
09-09-18, 17:29
This young girl only offers a topless sensual massage with a hand finish. She keeps her panties on during. Her rate is 200 for 1 hour.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4917b8a5-848a-4a70-9b6d-8e3fb764945bCute girl, but 200 roses for a HJ is crazy talk.
Indy Jones 317
09-13-18, 13:34
This young girl only offers a topless sensual massage with a hand finish. She keeps her panties on during. Her rate is 200 for 1 hour.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4917b8a5-848a-4a70-9b6d-8e3fb764945bHow sensual is the massage? Are you allowed to touch her?
Indy Jones 317
09-13-18, 15:55
This young girl only offers a topless sensual massage with a hand finish. She keeps her panties on during. Her rate is 200 for 1 hour.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4917b8a5-848a-4a70-9b6d-8e3fb764945bIs this a quote she gave you via text? Or did you actually see her in person?
FunSeeker702
09-15-18, 17:41
This young girl only offers a topless sensual massage with a hand finish. She keeps her panties on during. Her rate is 200 for 1 hour.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4917b8a5-848a-4a70-9b6d-8e3fb764945bYea that's a bit high. Considering you can throw in an extra bill at a korean joint for FS GFE.
Is this a quote she gave you via text? Or did you actually see her in person?Quote via text. Did not see her.
So I saw Abigale. A thin, 21 year old. Alcohol and possibly drug problem. Very quiet and soft spoken. Rocker / gothic look. Small, but nice tits. Starts out high on price, but drops easily, but then tries to upsell in the room for everything including BBBJ. She's a sub.
She can be slow to respond at times because of the alcohol. She carries a big bottle of liquor with her in her purse. I picked her up at her apt across the street from the Hard Rock hotel early in the morning and brought her to my hotel. I got out of my car to greet her and she didn't say anything. Not a "hi" or "how are you? She just walked past me and got inside the car. Very strange reaction to meeting someone. I was already regretting it.
Tried to make conversation during the drive to loosen her up. Drove her back to my hotel. We had CFS (she's open to BBFS for a higher amount). Nothing special. She did have a bit of pussy odor even though she told me she had just showered and I didn't even try to DATY.
Then I took her for breakfast in the hotel and she of course ordered alcohol for breakfast. Then back up to the room for another round, but her personality seemed to change at this point and she didn't follow through on what we agreed on.
Quick shower together and I could tell she was packing up and getting ready to leave while I was in the shower. I came out and after some debate I eventually managed to cum a second time while she laid next to me and I squeezed her tit with one hand. Damage was 200.
Would I recommend her? I don't know. You could have a very fun and weird Vegas experience with her if you wanted. The body is nice and her face is cute, but the sex and strange personality are the downsides. The funny thing is on my last night in Vegas I was at the Stratosphere with another girl from SA. This girl was so much better. Just a sweet, normal, skinny blonde with gorgeous natural tits, also submissive. New to SA. And I was the first guy she saw from SA.
We had just been to the top of the Stratosphere and were walking through the shops on the 2nd floor of the Strat back to the garage. This was around midnight. I happened to look over at one of the fast food restaurants and I saw Abigale (the girl I just reviewed) sitting alone in one of the restaurants. I couldn't believe the odds of me running into her again. She didn't see me and I didn't stop to say anything.
TimLee0415
09-17-18, 18:16
Would you mind sharing the skinny blondes info? TIA! Heading down next week. Excited.
Hobbyist1980
09-17-18, 19:01
So I saw Abigale. A thin, 21 year old. Alcohol and possibly drug problem. Very quiet and soft spoken. Rocker / gothic look. Small, but nice tits. Starts out high on price, but drops easily, but then tries to upsell in the room for everything including BBBJ. She's a sub.
She can be slow to respond at times because of the alcohol. She carries a big bottle of liquor with her in her purse. I picked her up at her apt across the street from the Hard Rock hotel early in the morning and brought her to my hotel. I got out of my car to greet her and she didn't say anything. Not a "hi" or "how are you? She just walked past me and got inside the car. Very strange reaction to meeting someone. I was already regretting it.
Tried to make conversation during the drive to loosen her up. Drove her back to my hotel. We had CFS (she's open to BBFS for a higher amount). Nothing special. She did have a bit of pussy odor even though she told me she had just showered and I didn't even try to DATY.
Then I took her for breakfast in the hotel and she of course ordered alcohol for breakfast. Then back up to the room for another round, but her personality seemed to change at this point and she didn't follow through on what we agreed on.
Quick shower together and I could tell she was packing up and getting ready to leave while I was in the shower. I came out and after some debate I eventually managed to cum a second time while she laid next to me and I squeezed her tit with one hand. Damage was 200.
Would I recommend her? I don't know. You could have a very fun and weird Vegas experience with her if you wanted. The body is nice and her face is cute, but the sex and strange personality are the downsides. The funny thing is on my last night in Vegas I was at the Stratosphere with another girl from SA. This girl was so much better. Just a sweet, normal, skinny blonde with gorgeous natural tits, also submissive. New to SA. And I was the first guy she saw from SA.
We had just been to the top of the Stratosphere and were walking through the shops on the 2nd floor of the Strat back to the garage. This was around midnight. I happened to look over at one of the fast food restaurants and I saw Abigale (the girl I just reviewed) sitting alone in one of the restaurants. I couldn't believe the odds of me running into her again. She didn't see me and I didn't stop to say anything.Someone reviewed her as Abby earlier in the thread. The review also mentioned she was only good for one pop.
Ihaschzbrgr
09-17-18, 19:29
So I saw Abigale. A thin, 21 year old. Alcohol and possibly drug problem. Very quiet and soft spoken. Rocker / gothic look. Small, but nice tits. Starts out high on price, but drops easily, but then tries to upsell in the room for everything including BBBJ. She's a sub.
She can be slow to respond at times because of the alcohol. She carries a big bottle of liquor with her in her purse. I picked her up at her apt across the street from the Hard Rock hotel early in the morning and brought her to my hotel. I got out of my car to greet her and she didn't say anything. Not a "hi" or "how are you? She just walked past me and got inside the car. Very strange reaction to meeting someone. I was already regretting it.
Tried to make conversation during the drive to loosen her up. Drove her back to my hotel. We had CFS (she's open to BBFS for a higher amount). Nothing special. She did have a bit of pussy odor even though she told me she had just showered and I didn't even try to DATY.
Then I took her for breakfast in the hotel and she of course ordered alcohol for breakfast. Then back up to the room for another round, but her personality seemed to change at this point and she didn't follow through on what we agreed on.
Quick shower together and I could tell she was packing up and getting ready to leave while I was in the shower. I came out and after some debate I eventually managed to cum a second time while she laid next to me and I squeezed her tit with one hand. Damage was 200.
Would I recommend her? I don't know. You could have a very fun and weird Vegas experience with her if you wanted. The body is nice and her face is cute, but the sex and strange personality are the downsides. The funny thing is on my last night in Vegas I was at the Stratosphere with another girl from SA. This girl was so much better. Just a sweet, normal, skinny blonde with gorgeous natural tits, also submissive. New to SA. And I was the first guy she saw from SA.
We had just been to the top of the Stratosphere and were walking through the shops on the 2nd floor of the Strat back to the garage. This was around midnight. I happened to look over at one of the fast food restaurants and I saw Abigale (the girl I just reviewed) sitting alone in one of the restaurants. I couldn't believe the odds of me running into her again. She didn't see me and I didn't stop to say anything.She goes by Abby and posts on mojovillage http://las-vegas.mojovillage.com/adult-18/companionsguides-women/young-vegas-babe_164663 . Thanks for report, almost partook had it not been for her high prices. She finally quoted down to $$, but started at 6 $ LOL.
So I saw Abigale. A thin, 21 year old. Alcohol and possibly drug problem. Very quiet and soft spoken. Rocker / gothic look. Small, but nice tits. Starts out high on price, but drops easily, but then tries to upsell in the room for everything including BBBJ. She's a sub.
She can be slow to respond at times because of the alcohol. She carries a big bottle of liquor with her in her purse. I picked her up at her apt across the street from the Hard Rock hotel early in the morning and brought her to my hotel. I got out of my car to greet her and she didn't say anything. Not a "hi" or "how are you? She just walked past me and got inside the car. Very strange reaction to meeting someone. I was already regretting it.
Tried to make conversation during the drive to loosen her up. Drove her back to my hotel. We had CFS (she's open to BBFS for a higher amount). Nothing special. She did have a bit of pussy odor even though she told me she had just showered and I didn't even try to DATY.
Then I took her for breakfast in the hotel and she of course ordered alcohol for breakfast. Then back up to the room for another round, but her personality seemed to change at this point and she didn't follow through on what we agreed on.
Quick shower together and I could tell she was packing up and getting ready to leave while I was in the shower. I came out and after some debate I eventually managed to cum a second time while she laid next to me and I squeezed her tit with one hand. Damage was 200.
Would I recommend her? I don't know. You could have a very fun and weird Vegas experience with her if you wanted. The body is nice and her face is cute, but the sex and strange personality are the downsides. The funny thing is on my last night in Vegas I was at the Stratosphere with another girl from SA. This girl was so much better. Just a sweet, normal, skinny blonde with gorgeous natural tits, also submissive. New to SA. And I was the first guy she saw from SA.
We had just been to the top of the Stratosphere and were walking through the shops on the 2nd floor of the Strat back to the garage. This was around midnight. I happened to look over at one of the fast food restaurants and I saw Abigale (the girl I just reviewed) sitting alone in one of the restaurants. I couldn't believe the odds of me running into her again. She didn't see me and I didn't stop to say anything.If you meet a girl off SA you might want to double check for reviews on here or other places first. Abby has been reviewed here before, under the mojo section, and the old craigslist section. You might have been better prepared for her.
Found a street walker using this site, cheap, pretty sure rides the horse, did 2 old men for 150. Will to go 3 days for 600, and do you as you requested. Dumped her when she got on the H. But you get what you pay for. Spinner, make her shower is all I will say, do it and send it on the road.
OldHoopster
09-21-18, 15:47
Care to share her contact info? And a bit more on her looks? Thank you.
DickenSider
09-21-18, 21:33
Hello Vegas mongers! I have a known associate I will tell you is fun to be with that is stuck in Vegas and needs some help, sweet gal and is needing some help since she went there on a muse!
https://www.seeking.com/member/62622b48-ae96-451e-89bf-f3a306441e84
TimLee0415
09-22-18, 01:20
Hello Vegas mongers! I have a known associate I will tell you is fun to be with that is stuck in Vegas and needs some help, sweet gal and is needing some help since she went there on a muse!
https://www.seeking.com/member/62622b48-ae96-451e-89bf-f3a306441e84Pmed you DickenSider!
VegasMan118
09-22-18, 06:05
So I saw Abigale. A thin, 21 year old. Alcohol and possibly drug problem. Very quiet and soft spoken. Rocker / gothic look. Small, but nice tits. Starts out high on price, but drops easily, but then tries to upsell in the room for everything including BBBJ. She's a sub.
She can be slow to respond at times because of the alcohol. She carries a big bottle of liquor with her in her purse. I picked her up at her apt across the street from the Hard Rock hotel early in the morning and brought her to my hotel. I got out of my car to greet her and she didn't say anything. Not a "hi" or "how are you? She just walked past me and got inside the car. Very strange reaction to meeting someone. I was already regretting it.
Tried to make conversation during the drive to loosen her up. Drove her back to my hotel. We had CFS (she's open to BBFS for a higher amount). Nothing special. She did have a bit of pussy odor even though she told me she had just showered and I didn't even try to DATY.
Then I took her for breakfast in the hotel and she of course ordered alcohol for breakfast. Then back up to the room for another round, but her personality seemed to change at this point and she didn't follow through on what we agreed on.
Quick shower together and I could tell she was packing up and getting ready to leave while I was in the shower. I came out and after some debate I eventually managed to cum a second time while she laid next to me and I squeezed her tit with one hand. Damage was 200.
Would I recommend her? I don't know. You could have a very fun and weird Vegas experience with her if you wanted. The body is nice and her face is cute, but the sex and strange personality are the downsides. The funny thing is on my last night in Vegas I was at the Stratosphere with another girl from SA. This girl was so much better. Just a sweet, normal, skinny blonde with gorgeous natural tits, also submissive. New to SA. And I was the first guy she saw from SA.
We had just been to the top of the Stratosphere and were walking through the shops on the 2nd floor of the Strat back to the garage. This was around midnight. I happened to look over at one of the fast food restaurants and I saw Abigale (the girl I just reviewed) sitting alone in one of the restaurants. I couldn't believe the odds of me running into her again. She didn't see me and I didn't stop to say anything.Spot on. I had her 3 time, She did talked a lot with me, and we finish the whole bottle of Jamerson, She can drink like a fish, Her pussy is smell the 1st time we met, then the 2nd time is much better, cause we shower together. Also she let me take some picture and Video with creampie finish. FYI she do have a hemorrhoids that stuck out like a short thumb.
So I tried Secret Benefits and it's pretty much garbage. I think the "girls" get some kind of commission for contacting you and then you spend 10 coins to unlock the message and then you never get another response. Waste of time and money. I'm pretty good at spotting the fakes and scammers on the adult sites so there were a ton of emails I never responded to since they didn't look legit but even the ones that looked somewhat legit ended up being scammers. So is Seeking Arrangement any better and do guys have better luck with hook ups? Just too much money to risk on another bogus site.
SmashPussy
10-01-18, 06:52
Spot on. I had her 3 time, She did talked a lot with me, and we finish the whole bottle of Jamerson, She can drink like a fish, Her pussy is smell the 1st time we met, then the 2nd time is much better, cause we shower together. Also she let me take some picture and Video with creampie finish. FYI she do have a hemorrhoids that stuck out like a short thumb.200 to fuck a drunk that has a smelly pussy, way too much.
PiledRiver9999
10-01-18, 11:16
200 to fuck a drunk that has a smelly pussy, way too much.That's funny.
So I tried Secret Benefits and it's pretty much garbage. I think the "girls" get some kind of commission for contacting you and then you spend 10 coins to unlock the message and then you never get another response. Waste of time and money. I'm pretty good at spotting the fakes and scammers on the adult sites so there were a ton of emails I never responded to since they didn't look legit but even the ones that looked somewhat legit ended up being scammers. So is Seeking Arrangement any better and do guys have better luck with hook ups? Just too much money to risk on another bogus site.I haven't tried Secret Benefits but can tell you for certain that my experience on SA has been better than you described. Rarely ran into a scammer. Certainly some flakes, some GPS, and also girls that have moved over from CL and BP (not always a bad thing). I've score plenty of attractive women of all ages in the 250 - 300 range. YMMV but personally, the best fishing ground I've ever found.
VegasMan118
10-02-18, 06:10
200 to fuck a drunk that has a smelly pussy, way too much.I don't pay that much, only 80 coin, I only pay that much on HobbyshopLv, Love those Korean chicks, Most I pick is top quality.
200 to fuck a drunk that has a smelly pussy, way too much.Hopefully this doesn't make you vomit, but when I was talking with her I asked her what was the most a guy ever paid her and she told me one guy staying at the Wynn gave her 2 grand and all he wanted was for her to take a dump on him. Yes, you read that right. She said she tried to crap on him, but she just couldn't do it. She told me this while we were walking to the restaurant for breakfast. Enjoy your meal.
P.S. She's also been to the Green Door.
Call Me Booger
10-04-18, 11:47
Thank you for my morning laugh. I now have this visual of her hovering him and trying to squeeze out a dump. Wonder if he saw her roids looking at him from her pink eye while she was squatting?
Hopefully this doesn't make you vomit, but when I was talking with her I asked her what was the most a guy ever paid her and she told me one guy staying at the Wynn gave her 2 grand and all he wanted was for her to take a dump on him. Yes, you read that right. She said she tried to crap on him, but she just couldn't do it. She told me this while we were walking to the restaurant for breakfast. Enjoy your meal.
P.S. She's also been to the Green Door.
Thank you for my morning laugh. I now have this visual of her hovering him and trying to squeeze out a dump. Wonder if he saw her roids looking at him from her pink eye while she was squatting?Damn Booger, you just had to take it to another level for us. As if the previous visual wasn't enough? LOL.
Ill drop reports here as they come in. So far all talk. Hitting vegas 4 times on the next two months.
Quick overview, I'm SHOCKED at how hot and YOUNG some of these girls are. I've got offers ranging from LITERAL swimsuit models for 5. 000 a month to one girl GREAT shape and cute (not hot) asking for whatever I think is fair. Most are camping on the 1. 000 per visit (full night of fun). I'm stunned at the access to 18 year olds that are actually 18.
Ill drop reports here as they come in. So far all talk. Hitting vegas 4 times on the next two months.
Quick overview, I'm SHOCKED at how hot and YOUNG some of these girls are. I've got offers ranging from LITERAL swimsuit models for 5. 000 a month to one girl GREAT shape and cute (not hot) asking for whatever I think is fair. Most are camping on the 1. 000 per visit (full night of fun). I'm stunned at the access to 18 year olds that are actually 18.You can generally find girls as hot as the ones you're talking about for much much cheaper than what they're offering. Just takes some expectation setting and getting a feel for what they're open to.
Glad I put off Abby to go bang 3 girls at Dietz and my top 2 Barcelona chicas LOL.
So I was on SA for probably 18+ months and had a blast. Lots of action, constant new additions and plenty of great times. I was on a break for the past 6 months and started checking in again recently and it's amazing the number of girls with GPS now. Asking six or seven bills per, lots of rules and just seem hardened. Sad where things have gone but hoping to still find a few newer girls with reasonable requests. The hunt continues but just not like before.
So I was on SA for probably 18+ months and had a blast. Lots of action, constant new additions and plenty of great times. I was on a break for the past 6 months and started checking in again recently and it's amazing the number of girls with GPS now. Asking six or seven bills per, lots of rules and just seem hardened. Sad where things have gone but hoping to still find a few newer girls with reasonable requests. The hunt continues but just not like before.I'm on a break from SA and actually deleted the account. Even though I found much success there, I ran into a lot of what you're describing as well.
Have you subscribed once again, and if so how are you fairing?
FilmMakr97
11-22-18, 15:30
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e77e9ad-e758-4746-afa7-b37fa1cb3cca
This chick quoted me 600.
Not sure what that entails.
Anyone have any recon on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e77e9ad-e758-4746-afa7-b37fa1cb3cca
This chick quoted me 600.
Not sure what that entails.
Anyone have any recon on her?Never talked to her, but 600 is expensive even for Vegas. You can find much hotter for cheaper if you do some digging.
AceKingQueen
11-29-18, 18:31
Never talked to her, but 600 is expensive even for Vegas. You can find much hotter for cheaper if you do some digging.Spoke with her few days back. Not my type. Seniors can PM me can share digits. K.
I know that I am late to the ballgame here with some of these reports but I figured that I would add my own two cents to this thread.
General
In general, I agree that SA has gotten bombarded with girls who do not really know what the SD / SB relationship is really like or just want money for lunch, dinner, photo sharing, text conversations and online conversations. It is ridiculous. I am not sure if this a generational thing with younger people feeling entitled to money for very little "work" or anything of value (I know that GPS has existed since the beginning of time, but the young women on SA these days seem to think that they deserve money because they put up semi-sexy photos).
Even women in their late twenties and early thirties on the website often respond with, "I'm new to this. Tell me how it works. " Then, when I explain how a traditional SD / SB relationship works or how PPM works, they act very offended or as though they expected guys to give them money because they "look cute" or because they want someone to help them pay their school tuition or credit cards in exchange for "nice conversations" or "dinner dates" with no physical intimacy involved. I started reporting the profiles of girls that act like this but there are so many that it does not seem to matter.
At least in the past, you could find someone in their twenties or thirties who was reasonably attractive and willing to please for a reasonable donation or "allowance" as they call it. I'm sure these ladies still exist, but it takes a lot longer to find them and the vast majority of the "18-25 crew" think that they do not have to provide any type of actual intimacy in order to get hundreds if not thousands of dollars from men.
Anyways, those are my thoughts in brief. Here are some specific reports:
Abby
I know that Abby has been much discussed here in this thread but let me add in some history here. I saw her in January of 2017 when she was still posting on Craigslist. Back then, she would post an ad for about an hour and then delete it quickly after someone contacted her. She had me pick her up from her dad's house late at night, which was a bit unnerving but she informed me that her dad "knew what she did and was okay with it" so she was very casual about the whole thing. Her dad's house was located in the very north parts of Las Vegas so an Uber or Lyft ride to the Strip would cost $60-$70. Luckily, I had a rental car that trip. After picking her up, we talked on the ride back to my hotel (I think I was staying at the Luxor) and she said that she had met a few guys before since she had turned 18 and was often down to just chill, have sex and do drugs with a lot of the men she met. In terms of service, she was definitely down for bare-everything and finishing inside her (and anywhere). She did not have hemorrhoids at the time, but that was almost two years ago and who knows how many men she has been with since we first met.
What was weird about her is that she also gave me a link to her Facebook profile (which has since been deleted or turned private) where at the time, she had like 800+ friends and was comfortable with people posting on her wall when they got paid and wanted to meet her. There was literally a guy who posted on her wall, "Hey, I just got paid. I'll give you 500 to come over right now. " So yeah, I guess she was right that her dad. Or anyone else. Did not care. I should state that I am not judging her or anyone who is that open about what they do to make money. It's just rare to find someone who is that open about it to their parents, siblings, friends and the Facebook community.
Anyways, she was an interesting person to be sure. When Abby and I met, she was definitely not drunk or high or strung out as has been reported in more recent reports. Perhaps she has traveled further down the rabbit hole in the past two years.
Oh yes, for reference, I should point out that she wanted $$$ back in January 2017. That was for about two hours of play and another hour of driving back and forth from her house. Not sure what she wants now.
Blonde Angel 18
https://www.seeking.com/member/4917b8a5-848a-4a70-9b6d-8e3fb764945b
This gal was mentioned earlier in this thread as well. I managed to talk to her for a bit and apparently now all she wants to do is dinner dates. Her phone number does match up with a seemingly-legitimate Facebook profile (I do not have her permission to share either). However, $$ plus the cost of a dinner to just. Talk? Have company? Really? Based on her Facebook photos, she is traveling the world a lot. Riding camels in Egypt, wine tasting in France, dining in Italy. So maybe there are a lot of old, desperate men who are willing to pay her to eat dinner with them in public so that they look cool?
Again, this is an example of the stuff I was talking about in my general report. She is definitely young and hot. If she was willing to go FS and act like an actual girlfriend in public and in private, then sure. $$ would be a steal. Even $$$ or $$ might be doable depending on how long she wanted to stay and how many times we would be in the bedroom together.
But no. Sadly no.
ViciousVal
https://www.seeking.com/member/4805afbb-f9ba-46ad-a08f-7bf70c411173
This gal quoted $$ for a few hours of fun, including BBFS and other things as long as it wasn't too "weird or painful" or something like that. I never got to meet her as I was out of town when she was wanted to meet.
sanctumregnum
https://www.seeking.com/member/2f70df0c-63a5-4940-b060-c3ddf0fa104c
This gal quoted $$ for a "few hours of fun and to CIM. " Then it was $$ for three hours of BBFS and to finish inside her. It was $.5 per hour after that as well so five hours would be $$ (with BBFS and CIM / CIP). Apparently she is trying to pay off student loans before her next semester starts or something. Anyways, I passed because after she sent current selfies to my phone, she looked a lot older and much more worn out than in her SA profile and $$ to CIM / CIP for someone who is not actually receiving an allowance and providing multiple on-going meetings per month is ridiculous.
There were 3 different profiles and when I hit them up, they all 3 gave me the same number to text. The first time they weren't open to much physically and after the next 2 inquiries responded with that same number I skipped it. Just my. 02.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e77e9ad-e758-4746-afa7-b37fa1cb3cca
This chick quoted me 600.
Not sure what that entails.
Anyone have any recon on her?
I did reactivate my profile. It's definitely more work than before with a lot of what the previous poster mentioned and what I had in the earlier post. I'm finding a gem here and there but several ghostings as is so common with the younger generation now. It can still be rewarding but I can't count on it like I used to so that a disappointment.
I'm on a break from SA and actually deleted the account. Even though I found much success there, I ran into a lot of what you're describing as well.
Have you subscribed once again, and if so how are you fairing?
EricIsRagIn
12-16-18, 19:19
New to the sugar bowl, I haven't been able to find any info on this one. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. Just trying to be careful. If any of you gents have any info on her I'd appreciate it. Once I meet up with someone Ill be glad to share my experience.
https://www.seeking.com/member/253f5c69-f626-4dfd-868a-dd699c0f5a55
RanLikeWind
12-17-18, 17:37
New to the sugar bowl, I haven't been able to find any info on this one. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. Just trying to be careful. If any of you gents have any info on her I'd appreciate it. Once I meet up with someone Ill be glad to share my experience.
https://www.seeking.com/member/253f5c69-f626-4dfd-868a-dd699c0f5a55I haven't seen someone in a Von Dutch shirt in over a decade fwiw.
All the links to SA takes me to the log in page.
If you are not a member, can you not see any of their listings?
Correct, you have to at least have a profile to see the girls. You have to pay the membership to read or send messages too.
All the links to SA takes me to the log in page.
If you are not a member, can you not see any of their listings?
Uh oh. I think the anti-repeat character filter took out the $ prices in some of these reviews.
ViciousVal should read $ x 6 and sanctumregnum should read:
"Then it was $ x 7 for three hours of BBFS and to finish inside her. It was $. 5 per hour after that as well so five hours would be $ x 10 (with BBFS and CIM / CIP). Apparently she is trying to pay off student loans before her next semester starts or something. Anyways, I passed because after she sent current selfies to my phone, she looked a lot older and much more worn out than in her SA profile and $ x 10 to CIM / CIP for someone who is not actually receiving an allowance and providing multiple on-going meetings per month is ridiculous.
I know that I am late to the ballgame here with some of these reports but I figured that I would add my own two cents to this thread.
General
In general, I agree that SA has gotten bombarded with girls who do not really know what the SD / SB relationship is really like or just want money for lunch, dinner, photo sharing, text conversations and online conversations. It is ridiculous. I am not sure if this a generational thing with younger people feeling entitled to money for very little "work" or anything of value (I know that GPS has existed since the beginning of time, but the young women on SA these days seem to think that they deserve money because they put up semi-sexy photos).
Even women in their late twenties and early thirties on the website often respond with, "I'm new to this. Tell me how it works. " Then, when I explain how a traditional SD / SB relationship works or how PPM works, they act very offended or as though they expected guys to give them money because they "look cute" or because they want someone to help them pay their school tuition or credit cards in exchange for "nice conversations" or "dinner dates" with no physical intimacy involved. I started reporting the profiles of girls that act like this but there are so many that it does not seem to matter.
At least in the past, you could find someone in their twenties or thirties who was reasonably attractive and willing to please for a reasonable donation or "allowance" as they call it. I'm sure these ladies still exist, but it takes a lot longer to find them and the vast majority of the "18-25 crew" think that they do not have to provide any type of actual intimacy in order to get hundreds if not thousands of dollars from men.
Anyways, those are my thoughts in brief. Here are some specific reports:
Abby
I know that Abby has been much discussed here in this thread but let me add in some history here. I saw her in January of 2017 when she was still posting on Craigslist. Back then, she would post an ad for about an hour and then delete it quickly after someone contacted her. She had me pick her up from her dad's house late at night, which was a bit unnerving but she informed me that her dad "knew what she did and was okay with it" so she was very casual about the whole thing. Her dad's house was located in the very north parts of Las Vegas so an Uber or Lyft ride to the Strip would cost $60-$70. Luckily, I had a rental car that trip. After picking her up, we talked on the ride back to my hotel (I think I was staying at the Luxor) and she said that she had met a few guys before since she had turned 18 and was often down to just chill, have sex and do drugs with a lot of the men she met. In terms of service, she was definitely down for bare-everything and finishing inside her (and anywhere). She did not have hemorrhoids at the time, but that was almost two years ago and who knows how many men she has been with since we first met.
What was weird about her is that she also gave me a link to her Facebook profile (which has since been deleted or turned private) where at the time, she had like 800+ friends and was comfortable with people posting on her wall when they got paid and wanted to meet her. There was literally a guy who posted on her wall, "Hey, I just got paid. I'll give you 500 to come over right now. " So yeah, I guess she was right that her dad. Or anyone else. Did not care. I should state that I am not judging her or anyone who is that open about what they do to make money. It's just rare to find someone who is that open about it to their parents, siblings, friends and the Facebook community.
Anyways, she was an interesting person to be sure. When Abby and I met, she was definitely not drunk or high or strung out as has been reported in more recent reports. Perhaps she has traveled further down the rabbit hole in the past two years.
Oh yes, for reference, I should point out that she wanted $$$ back in January 2017. That was for about two hours of play and another hour of driving back and forth from her house. Not sure what she wants now.
Blonde Angel 18
https://www.seeking.com/member/4917b8a5-848a-4a70-9b6d-8e3fb764945b
This gal was mentioned earlier in this thread as well. I managed to talk to her for a bit and apparently now all she wants to do is dinner dates. Her phone number does match up with a seemingly-legitimate Facebook profile (I do not have her permission to share either). However, $$ plus the cost of a dinner to just. Talk? Have company? Really? Based on her Facebook photos, she is traveling the world a lot. Riding camels in Egypt, wine tasting in France, dining in Italy. So maybe there are a lot of old, desperate men who are willing to pay her to eat dinner with them in public so that they look cool?
Again, this is an example of the stuff I was talking about in my general report. She is definitely young and hot. If she was willing to go FS and act like an actual girlfriend in public and in private, then sure. $$ would be a steal. Even $$$ or $$ might be doable depending on how long she wanted to stay and how many times we would be in the bedroom together.
But no. Sadly no.
ViciousVal
https://www.seeking.com/member/4805afbb-f9ba-46ad-a08f-7bf70c411173
This gal quoted $$ for a few hours of fun, including BBFS and other things as long as it wasn't too "weird or painful" or something like that. I never got to meet her as I was out of town when she was wanted to meet.
sanctumregnum
https://www.seeking.com/member/2f70df0c-63a5-4940-b060-c3ddf0fa104c
This gal quoted $$ for a "few hours of fun and to CIM. " Then it was $$ for three hours of BBFS and to finish inside her. It was $.5 per hour after that as well so five hours would be $$ (with BBFS and CIM / CIP). Apparently she is trying to pay off student loans before her next semester starts or something. Anyways, I passed because after she sent current selfies to my phone, she looked a lot older and much more worn out than in her SA profile and $$ to CIM / CIP for someone who is not actually receiving an allowance and providing multiple on-going meetings per month is ridiculous.
New to the sugar bowl, I haven't been able to find any info on this one. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. Just trying to be careful. If any of you gents have any info on her I'd appreciate it. Once I meet up with someone Ill be glad to share my experience.
https://www.seeking.com/member/253f5c69-f626-4dfd-868a-dd699c0f5a55She has GPS, hard core.
SexThinker
12-28-18, 09:22
Uh oh. I think the anti-repeat character filter took out the $ prices in some of these reviews.
ViciousVal should read $ x 6 and sanctumregnum should read:
"Then it was $ x 7 for three hours of BBFS and to finish inside her. It was $. 5 per hour after that as well so five hours would be $ x 10 (with BBFS and CIM / CIP). Apparently she is trying to pay off student loans before her next semester starts or something. Anyways, I passed because after she sent current selfies to my phone, she looked a lot older and much more worn out than in her SA profile and $ x 10 to CIM / CIP for someone who is not actually receiving an allowance and providing multiple on-going meetings per month is ridiculous.You know, to avoid that problem you could, I dunno, use normal every day amounts that everyone would understand.
She has GPS, hard core.If I am going to pay GPS prices (which I would not) there are way better looking girls on the site, and others, that would be more worth it than her. I always get tentative when a girl classifies herself as 'average' in the profile. It usually means she has extra pounds. When in Vegas, and use SA, I usually stick with the 'slim' girls or go to Eros and find a decent pro if I don't want to have to work for it.
Is anybody with resources looking for a safe live in? I have a post up in escorts. Offering nude maid service / fetish / cuddling for niccole, this may be the spot that would help her out the most.
She is my friend and I want her to be safe and taken care of. I have to leave town.
Is anybody with resources looking for a safe live in? I have a post up in escorts. Offering nude maid service / fetish / cuddling for niccole, this may be the spot that would help her out the most.
She is my friend and I want her to be safe and taken care of. I have to leave town.If anyone can help out I can let her stay with me from wed till Friday to help out I get free rooms on the strip.
Looking for a little help from someone familiar with the SA scene in Vegas. Looking to get some info on some girls I have been talking with about meeting when I am there and would like to handle it via PMs.
First time poster. After years of primarily trolling mojovillage and other similar sites, I joined SA a couple weeks ago for the first time and immediately connected with a smoking hot girl at a reasonable ppm and I've seen her a couple times since. She's up for anything (CIM, COF, CIP). Otherwise, lots of talk and monetary expectations, but I haven't met up with anyone else yet. Partly because I've been happy with this girl and also because a lot of girls on SA don't offer incall, which I need. So far I would say it's been worth it since you generally have a higher class of girls with less inhibitions and willing to do a lot more. I've made contact with enough girls I don't think I will renew when my 30 days is up. I could see it being something where I activate twice a year for 30 days just to see what's new.
Also. It's possible I've found the holy grail. I've been chatting with a girl for a few weeks who claims she's never gone all the way with anyone. Who knows if she's being honest or not, but I hope to find out soon. Will return and report when I know more. Obviously not sharing this one. Yet.
TL; DR. If you can pay the entry fee and put in work, you can find what you want on SA.
How much is the ppm?
First time poster. After years of primarily trolling mojovillage and other similar sites, I joined SA a couple weeks ago for the first time and immediately connected with a smoking hot girl at a reasonable ppm and I've seen her a couple times since. She's up for anything (CIM, COF, CIP). Otherwise, lots of talk and monetary expectations, but I haven't met up with anyone else yet. Partly because I've been happy with this girl and also because a lot of girls on SA don't offer incall, which I need. So far I would say it's been worth it since you generally have a higher class of girls with less inhibitions and willing to do a lot more. I've made contact with enough girls I don't think I will renew when my 30 days is up. I could see it being something where I activate twice a year for 30 days just to see what's new.
Also. It's possible I've found the holy grail. I've been chatting with a girl for a few weeks who claims she's never gone all the way with anyone. Who knows if she's being honest or not, but I hope to find out soon. Will return and report when I know more. Obviously not sharing this one. Yet.
TL; DR. If you can pay the entry fee and put in work, you can find what you want on SA.
How much is the ppm?2-3 depending on what you are looking to do.
2-3 depending on what you are looking to do.Who's the girl? .
Taco Master
01-18-19, 15:22
2-3 depending on what you are looking to do.Does 2 =00 or 000?
Does 2 =00 or 000?00 - I'm new here still trying to get the terminology down. LOL.
CharlieSunrise
01-22-19, 19:57
While planning my trip here I started doing my homework a few weeks before and found little help on this sight and didn't find much on standard escort sites so I started working and sifting through Seeing arrangements for some legit options to try out. I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by what I was able to find.
The first one goes by Christine7373, claims to be 25 and I believe it, 8. 5/10 looks she is cute thin with a nice set of B's and a handful of ass, claimed to be a contortionist and with how flexible she is I'd buy it. Had a fantastic round with her, true girlfriend experience, I did not push any limits but didn't find anything that was off limits. Performance I would give a 10/10, seemed to truly get into it and made me believe she was enjoying it more than me. Not only would I repeat but I did a couple times. Rates were exceptional compared others 200 no clocks involved.
The second goes by circasurvive7, sweet girl also thin with a nice set of B's and a handful of ass looks to be of hispanic decent looks 9/10. Another real girlfriend experience, performance was good but not a home run 7. 5/10. She drove up from Arizona for the date (1. 5 hr away) which impressed me. She was a bit pricier asked 500, but accepted 400 in negotiations prior to the date. I would likely repeat as I believe performance would improve wit repeat visits.
I have a couple more girls lined up for the rest of my trip and will report back once I have experienced them.
CS From Michigan.
PauseTheDrama
01-22-19, 22:41
Will you ask if you can share Christine number?
While planning my trip here I started doing my homework a few weeks before and found little help on this sight and didn't find much on standard escort sites so I started working and sifting through Seeing arrangements for some legit options to try out. I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by what I was able to find.
The first one goes by Christine7373, claims to be 25 and I believe it, 8. 5/10 looks she is cute thin with a nice set of B's and a handful of ass, claimed to be a contortionist and with how flexible she is I'd buy it. Had a fantastic round with her, true girlfriend experience, I did not push any limits but didn't find anything that was off limits. Performance I would give a 10/10, seemed to truly get into it and made me believe she was enjoying it more than me. Not only would I repeat but I did a couple times. Rates were exceptional compared others 200 no clocks involved.
The second goes by circasurvive7, sweet girl also thin with a nice set of B's and a handful of ass looks to be of hispanic decent looks 9/10. Another real girlfriend experience, performance was good but not a home run 7. 5/10. She drove up from Arizona for the date (1. 5 hr away) which impressed me. She was a bit pricier asked 500, but accepted 400 in negotiations prior to the date. I would likely repeat as I believe performance would improve wit repeat visits.
I have a couple more girls lined up for the rest of my trip and will report back once I have experienced them.
CS From Michigan.
CharlieSunrise
01-23-19, 12:45
Will you ask if you can share Christine number?I'll ask next time I see her, she is ready to jump at my whim and I plan to hit it at least one more time if not more before I check out.
Dillan1251
01-24-19, 12:28
Saw this one last night. Arranged something for 4 $ met at bar. Bought drinks went back to room. What a complete waste of time. I should of known from the start she was too immature. Giggles laughed put on sexy clothes that's about it. Things went no where. Complete rip off. Complete. Sent her packing light four bills. Yep sucker.
Has anyone else been running into girls instantly giving you their numbers and requesting to meet within an hour or two? Just today I messaged a girl, she instantly gave me her number, and said she got stood up, had a hotel room, and wanted to meet right then and there. She sent me her instagram to verify, but there were so many red flags and alarms going off in my head that I finally just said no because it just seemed way TGTBT.
Saw this one last night. Arranged something for 4 $ met at bar. Bought drinks went back to room. What a complete waste of time. I should of known from the start she was too immature. Giggles laughed put on sexy clothes that's about it. Things went no where. Complete rip off. Complete. Sent her packing light four bills. Yep sucker.Had you discussed the terms of the arrangement first? Did you give her the money before those terms were met?
I have a couple dates set up when I am in Vegas next time and the girls have indicated they know how the arrangements work but if they think they are getting money before the deed is done, they are mistaken.
Has anyone else been running into girls instantly giving you their numbers and requesting to meet within an hour or two? Just today I messaged a girl, she instantly gave me her number, and said she got stood up, had a hotel room, and wanted to meet right then and there. She sent me her instagram to verify, but there were so many red flags and alarms going off in my head that I finally just said no because it just seemed way TGTBT.Yep. Scam 101. Avoid.
Has anyone else been running into girls instantly giving you their numbers and requesting to meet within an hour or two? Just today I messaged a girl, she instantly gave me her number, and said she got stood up, had a hotel room, and wanted to meet right then and there. She sent me her instagram to verify, but there were so many red flags and alarms going off in my head that I finally just said no because it just seemed way TGTBT.She's probably just a working girl. The girls that used to be on craigslist, backpage, etc, have moved to the sugarworld now too. Its no longer just girls that are actually trying to find a real sugardaddy / baby relationship, but regular working girls are on there too. I've seen girls posted on there, that I have also seen posting on escortalligator and the likes. By seen, I mean I've seen their posts, I have yet to actually meet with one of them, and I have yet to pay for a seeking arrangements membership.
Team,
So I enjoyed this young treat while in LA and she is back in Vegas, so I figured I would share with you guys. Pics are fairly accurate, she looks about 18, slender and a little baby damage. I would classify her more as utr then sb, but who knows. We chatted for a few days and she came right over, a little shy but very cute. Great BBBJ, covered any position you want and greek friendly, she let me finish in her mouth and didn; t miss a drop. I would definitely repeat, for a little extra, she will go bare, if is into you, the damage $$ but no clock watching, two pops and nice clean young girl. Here is her link https://www.seeking.com/member/a09b5cbe-94c9-457a-8e35-277700b3ca2f.
Enjoy!
T.
Team,
So I enjoyed this young treat while in LA and she is back in Vegas, so I figured I would share with you guys. Pics are fairly accurate, she looks about 18, slender and a little baby damage. I would classify her more as utr then sb, but who knows. We chatted for a few days and she came right over, a little shy but very cute. Great BBBJ, covered any position you want and greek friendly, she let me finish in her mouth and didn; t miss a drop. I would definitely repeat, for a little extra, she will go bare, if is into you, the damage $$ but no clock watching, two pops and nice clean young girl. Here is her link https://www.seeking.com/member/a09b5cbe-94c9-457a-8e35-277700b3ca2f..Have seen her as well and agree with everything you say.
Team,
So I enjoyed this young treat while in LA and she is back in Vegas, so I figured I would share with you guys. Pics are fairly accurate, she looks about 18, slender and a little baby damage. I would classify her more as utr then sb, but who knows. We chatted for a few days and she came right over, a little shy but very cute. Great BBBJ, covered any position you want and greek friendly, she let me finish in her mouth and didn; t miss a drop. I would definitely repeat, for a little extra, she will go bare, if is into you, the damage $$ but no clock watching, two pops and nice clean young girl. Here is her link https://www.seeking.com/member/a09b5cbe-94c9-457a-8e35-277700b3ca2f.
Enjoy!
T.Hey. How about a screen grab for those of us not signed up the that site. Thanks!
RobertBeard
01-30-19, 00:43
Hey. How about a screen grab for those of us not signed up the that site. Thanks!Not likely. I signed up just to see her profile and it says link not active. Too good to be true is the more likely scenario.
RWarNmsn69
01-30-19, 01:00
Not likely. I signed up just to see her profile and it says link not active. Too good to be true is the more likely scenario.I just now viewed her profile.
Safe mongering and sugaring!
Hey. How about a screen grab for those of us not signed up the that site. Thanks!Here is her pick as of now, she does not want me to share her #, if she changes her mind I certainly will. If your on SA, reach out to her politely and try to seduce her, she is not a pro or utr, so it takes more then how much.
PauseTheDrama
01-30-19, 23:19
She is hot. Great pics on her profile Nice find.
Here is her pick as of now, she does not want me to share her #, if she changes her mind I certainly will. If your on SA, reach out to her politely and try to seduce her, she is not a pro or utr, so it takes more then how much.
Here is her pick as of now, she does not want me to share her #, if she changes her mind I certainly will. If your on SA, reach out to her politely and try to seduce her, she is not a pro or utr, so it takes more then how much.I started texting her and I don't know where you got $$ bc she's got gps like all the other bitches on there and wouldn't go below 5 benjamin's. She told me most pay her 1000 I told her she's f'ing crazy and she's not worth more than 150. That kinda ended the conversation. Has an attitude too. Couldn't take it any more. GPS like no other. What a waste of joining this site.
I started texting her and I don't know where you got $$ bc she's got gps like all the other bitches on there and wouldn't go below 5 benjamin's. She told me most pay her 1000 I told her she's f'ing crazy and she's not worth more than 150. That kinda ended the conversation. Has an attitude too. Couldn't take it any more. GPS like no other. What a waste of joining this site.Not sure what kind of girls you are focusing on but what you describe has not been my experience on SA. Sure, the girls you describe are out there and often keywords in their profile will indicate as much. Especially if you focus on the under 21, super hot and relatively new members that think the site is going to be a gold mine for them to find rich men willing to exchange Gold for Pussy. I've found many very attractive women ranging from 18 to 50 with reasonable expectations and have no problem hooking up in the 200 to 300 range. Many more out there in the 300 to 500 range, and although I stay below that, a lot of girls in this range are super hot and probably worth every penny.
Teratogen666
02-01-19, 03:57
Greetings fellas,
I'm rather new to this board but not entirely new to the game. Been reading throughout threads the past couple weeks to familiarize myself with stuff. I am also new to this SA site. I first discovered it through here. I'm wondering though. I created a profile and, of course, they want you to pay a ridiculous amount just to exchange communications. I've been "favorited" and messaged by tons of girls already. But, alas, they are dead ends if I cannot reply. You gentlemen who use this site, you are paying members? I'm trying to figure out an easier way. I did indicate in my profile that I'm unable to read messages on the site and gave sly notice of how I can be found through social sites and apps. Yet I still get constant notifications of incoming messages that I can't even read. ONE girl found me on Instagram and messaged me. Offered decent price but none of the services I prefer, so I declined. Any tips or tricks to circumvent the ridiculous membership fee? Or is that pretty much my only option?
Not sure what kind of girls you are focusing on but what you describe has not been my experience on SA. Sure, the girls you describe are out there and often keywords in their profile will indicate as much. Especially if you focus on the under 21, super hot and relatively new members that think the site is going to be a gold mine for them to find rich men willing to exchange Gold for Pussy. I've found many very attractive women ranging from 18 to 50 with reasonable expectations and have no problem hooking up in the 200 to 300 range. Many more out there in the 300 to 500 range, and although I stay below that, a lot of girls in this range are super hot and probably worth every penny.M,
That is about how it is on the east coast, Buttercup was my first sb in LA. I have no idea what the market is like in Vegas, but from Baltimore to Dc, there is a drastic jump. DC girls have gps syndrome and the Baltimore girls do not. Of course if the girls inbox is swamped she will keep raising the price till her clients stop calling. Just my. 02, plus I think she needed the money to get back to Vegas, I was probably the anomaly.
Not sure what kind of girls you are focusing on but what you describe has not been my experience on SA. Sure, the girls you describe are out there and often keywords in their profile will indicate as much. Especially if you focus on the under 21, super hot and relatively new members that think the site is going to be a gold mine for them to find rich men willing to exchange Gold for Pussy. I've found many very attractive women ranging from 18 to 50 with reasonable expectations and have no problem hooking up in the 200 to 300 range. Many more out there in the 300 to 500 range, and although I stay below that, a lot of girls in this range are super hot and probably worth every penny.Well M if that's not your experience please share a few that are in the 200 range bc there is no way ANY of the girls that messaged me would consider anything less than 500/ hr. One offered 300 hhr and I laughed. I still say GPS is all they have on this site but please prove to me it isn't with some names. Even the vicious val girl that was reported for 200 wouldn't go under 600 for me. My luck can't be that bad regarding these hos on this site.
I started texting her and I don't know where you got $$ bc she's got gps like all the other bitches on there and wouldn't go below 5 benjamin's. She told me most pay her 1000 I told her she's f'ing crazy and she's not worth more than 150. That kinda ended the conversation. Has an attitude too. Couldn't take it any more. GPS like no other. What a waste of joining this site.Thank you for posting that. I was tempted to pay for another month of SA just to message her, because 200 for a young Vegas girl like that is a bargain, but I'm not surprised she got GPS. Vegas is loaded with money. If you're one of these girls would you rather screw 5 guys for 200 each, or wait for one guy to give you 1,000? It's supply & demand. There is a lot of demand in Vegas, so prices are higher. That's why it's best to get a girl that's new to SA, but that doesn't always work either because a new girl may have signed up after hearing how much money her girlfriends are getting per date.
The guy who posted about Vicious Val for 200 posted later that he made a mistake in the amount. It was higher than 200. When I texted her last year she came down to 400, but that's still too high for me.
Thank you for posting that. I was tempted to pay for another month of SA just to message her, because 200 for a young Vegas girl like that is a bargain, but I'm not surprised she got GPS. Vegas is loaded with money. If you're one of these girls would you rather screw 5 guys for 200 each, or wait for one guy to give you 1,000? It's supply & demand. There is a lot of demand in Vegas, so prices are higher. That's why it's best to get a girl that's new to SA, but that doesn't always work either because a new girl may have signed up after hearing how much money her girlfriends are getting per date.
The guy who posted about Vicious Val for 200 posted later that he made a mistake in the amount. It was higher than 200. When I texted her last year she came down to 400, but that's still too high for me.Yup agree totally. No way I'm renewing the monthly fee. One month of this crap is more than enough. I'll stick with this board for my new prospects.
Well M if that's not your experience please share a few that are in the 200 range bc there is no way ANY of the girls that messaged me would consider anything less than 500/ hr. One offered 300 hhr and I laughed. I still say GPS is all they have on this site but please prove to me it isn't with some names. Even the vicious val girl that was reported for 200 wouldn't go under 600 for me. My luck can't be that bad regarding these hos on this site.Years ago a very wise mentor I was lucky to have told me "You make your own luck. " Not sure if it's relevant here but it came to mind when I read your reply.
I'm going to have to respectfully pass on the request to share names.
City Slicker
02-01-19, 16:23
Well M if that's not your experience please share a few that are in the 200 range bc there is no way ANY of the girls that messaged me would consider anything less than 500/ hr. One offered 300 hhr and I laughed. I still say GPS is all they have on this site but please prove to me it isn't with some names. Even the vicious val girl that was reported for 200 wouldn't go under 600 for me. My luck can't be that bad regarding these hos on this site.MDxxx, I am in the same boat as you guys are. 2 weeks on SA and most quotes are 300-500 easy. I guess I am not spending enough time do meet & greet. I've 2 greet and meet but never really got anywhere and they are time consuming not to mention paying for lunch and coffee. I am not sure how much time you guys are spending on the site but I hunt frequently but dnt have the time to meet for dinner dates.
MDxxx, I am in the same boat as you guys are. 2 weeks on SA and most quotes are 300-500 easy. I guess I am not spending enough time do meet & greet. I've 2 greet and meet but never really got anywhere and they are time consuming not to mention paying for lunch and coffee. I am not sure how much time you guys are spending on the site but I hunt frequently but dnt have the time to meet for dinner dates.I don't even meet and greet these hos on SA. Waste of time. I ask them straight up donation and menu. Always 500-1000. and when you try to lower it they are offended. total bs. These dreamers think their shit don't stink. Or their pussies. This site is just a waste of time. GPS at its worst. sorry don’t mean to beat a dead horse. just IMHO.
I don't even meet and greet these hos on SA. Waste of time. I ask them straight up donation and menu. Always 500-1000. and when you try to lower it they are offended. total bs. These dreamers think their shit don't stink. Or their pussies. This site is just a waste of time. GPS at its worst.Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I think your approach is totally the problem here. Most of these girls don't view themselves as escorts so if you jump straight to the money / menu they get offended and either don't reply or quote high with the hope you will either say yes and they will get their top dollar or you will go away. Try and be nice and funny at first, show a little personality. They will lower their guards a bit once they think you are possibly a decent guy with money. Once the money comes up, if they go high say "wow that's more than I was expecting, most quotes are in the $200-$250 range. " If they don't budge or don't come down low enough, on to the next. In one month, I've seen 4 girls and donation ranged from $100-300. I have two others lined up for next week, both in the $200 range. I've talked with many others and some are still out of my preferred range so I move on.
Also, don't let on that it's a one time thing (even though let's be honest. It is), pretend you are really interested in finding the right SB. If they ask for an allowance or an on-going thing, say "I always do ppm on first meeting to make sure we're compatible, then we can discuss allowance for future visits" (spoiler. There are no future visits unless they completely blow me away).
It is way more work than mojo and other escort sites because with escorts both parties know what's up from the onset. SB like to pretend they're different, so you have to approach it as such. If you don't want to work for it, then I agree SA isn't for you. If you are willing to put in the work, the rewards are great.
For the most part, I do agree with you on not doing an initial meet and greet, unless she is extremely hot and you are willing to take this step to try and seal the deal. And if you do take this step, make it clear you are just paying for the meal and not meal + time. Life's too short to pay not to get laid.
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I think your approach is totally the problem here. Most of these girls don't view themselves as escorts so if you jump straight to the money / menu they get offended and either don't reply or quote high with the hope you will either say yes and they will get their top dollar or you will go away. Try and be nice and funny at first, show a little personality. They will lower their guards a bit once they think you are possibly a decent guy with money. Once the money comes up, if they go high say "wow that's more than I was expecting, most quotes are in the $200-$250 range. " If they don't budge or don't come down low enough, on to the next. In one month, I've seen 4 girls and donation ranged from $100-300. I have two others lined up for next week, both in the $200 range. I've talked with many others and some are still out of my preferred range so I move on.
Also, don't let on that it's a one time thing (even though let's be honest. It is), pretend you are really interested in finding the right SB. If they ask for an allowance or an on-going thing, say "I always do ppm on first meeting to make sure we're compatible, then we can discuss allowance for future visits" (spoiler. There are no future visits unless they completely blow me away).
It is way more work than mojo and other escort sites because with escorts both parties know what's up from the onset. SB like to pretend they're different, so you have to approach it as such. If you don't want to work for it, then I agree SA isn't for you. If you are willing to put in the work, the rewards are great.
For the most part, I do agree with you on not doing an initial meet and greet, unless she is extremely hot and you are willing to take this step to try and seal the deal. And if you do take this step, make it clear you are just paying for the meal and not meal + time. Life's too short to pay not to get laid.I agree that the GPS is off the charts on SA. And no offense-unless she's super hot-I don't want to waste my time trying to convince some chick I'm really into HER. I just want to get laid. Try WYP--much more of a semi-pro feel, girls not as hot but still very do-able and most are DTF. I've had great success in the LA and Vegas sections.
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but I think your approach is totally the problem here. Most of these girls don't view themselves as escorts so if you jump straight to the money / menu they get offended and either don't reply or quote high with the hope you will either say yes and they will get their top dollar or you will go away. Try and be nice and funny at first, show a little personality. They will lower their guards a bit once they think you are possibly a decent guy with money. Once the money comes up, if they go high say "wow that's more than I was expecting, most quotes are in the $200-$250 range. " If they don't budge or don't come down low enough, on to the next. In one month, I've seen 4 girls and donation ranged from $100-300. I have two others lined up for next week, both in the $200 range. I've talked with many others and some are still out of my preferred range so I move on.
Also, don't let on that it's a one time thing (even though let's be honest. It is), pretend you are really interested in finding the right SB. If they ask for an allowance or an on-going thing, say "I always do ppm on first meeting to make sure we're compatible, then we can discuss allowance for future visits" (spoiler. There are no future visits unless they completely blow me away).
It is way more work than mojo and other escort sites because with escorts both parties know what's up from the onset. SB like to pretend they're different, so you have to approach it as such. If you don't want to work for it, then I agree SA isn't for you. If you are willing to put in the work, the rewards are great.
For the most part, I do agree with you on not doing an initial meet and greet, unless she is extremely hot and you are willing to take this step to try and seal the deal. And if you do take this step, make it clear you are just paying for the meal and not meal + time. Life's too short to pay not to get laid.Not to sound like a jerk too but if you're getting girls on this site for 100-300 why don't you post them? Sorry I don't believe you. Your methods may work but give us proof. Every lead I've gotten from this section and even the previous years recommendations have all turned out to be GPS. I've heard advice on what to do and they say they've gotten tons at decent rates but never give the names of those girls. And PTA is 100% right when he says GPS is off the charts and not worth the time asking their rates because they are going to be ridiculous.
Lotsoffun201
02-06-19, 11:01
I've quit looking online and have had the best luck recently finding girls who work day shifts at the clubs. This is my take on why this works best:
1. You're local so it can be a regular thing. They rip you off and they're done.
2. There is never a question as to whether the photos are real.
3. They're smart enough not to blow a good thing.
4. Prices are reasonable for 1-2 hour meet ups.
I've met two recently. Both are easily 9 in appearance and have told me thy were on WYP and a couple other sites. Both would travel with me at no additional cost other than airfare and room which I'm buying anyway. Both are older and very mature so you don't get those looks when you're with your "niece".
Generally these girls bring up an arrangement to me, and not the other way around. I believe if you ask them first, they come up with some ridiculous GPS figure, but when it's their idea, it's much more reasonable. This method takes time and patience but it seems to pay off pretty well for me at least.
RanLikeWind
02-06-19, 12:30
Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but what is WYP?
Lotsoffun201
02-06-19, 12:34
Maybe I'm having a brain fart, but what is WYP?What's your price. It's a sugar site.
I've quit looking online and have had the best luck recently finding girls who work day shifts at the clubs. This is my take on why this works best:
1. You're local so it can be a regular thing. They rip you off and they're done.
2. There is never a question as to whether the photos are real.
3. They're smart enough not to blow a good thing.
4. Prices are reasonable for 1-2 hour meet ups.
I've met two recently. Both are easily 9 in appearance and have told me thy were on WYP and a couple other sites. Both would travel with me at no additional cost other than airfare and room which I'm buying anyway. Both are older and very mature so you don't get those looks when you're with your "niece".
Generally these girls bring up an arrangement to me, and not the other way around. I believe if you ask them first, they come up with some ridiculous GPS figure, but when it's their idea, it's much more reasonable. This method takes time and patience but it seems to pay off pretty well for me at least.There is incredible value in day shift strippers. Most of them bored AF, not making enough $, and you can find some super hot chicks.
PartyTimeGuy
02-07-19, 05:37
I've quit looking online and have had the best luck recently finding girls who work day shifts at the clubs. This is my take on why this works best:
1. You're local so it can be a regular thing. They rip you off and they're done.
2. There is never a question as to whether the photos are real.
3. They're smart enough not to blow a good thing.
4. Prices are reasonable for 1-2 hour meet ups.
I've met two recently. Both are easily 9 in appearance and have told me thy were on WYP and a couple other sites. Both would travel with me at no additional cost other than airfare and room which I'm buying anyway. Both are older and very mature so you don't get those looks when you're with your "niece".
Generally these girls bring up an arrangement to me, and not the other way around. I believe if you ask them first, they come up with some ridiculous GPS figure, but when it's their idea, it's much more reasonable. This method takes time and patience but it seems to pay off pretty well for me at least.Just got back from a trip to Vegas.
I totally agree with your approach. It not only works in Vegas but also in other locations. Day shift strippers are the best! Some of the best SBs I ever had were on the day shift. The night shift seems to have more GPS, just like most of the pussy on the sugar sites. Girls who have to work hard to have a few bills stuffed in their G-string seem to appreciate a good SD situation, give you the GFE you want, come very reasonably priced, and are thankful for the extra cash. Besides, you can interview them live and have a pretty good idea what you are getting long before you make the sugar offer.
BTW: I love those looks when you are with your "niece. " LOL I tell my "nieces" to blow a kiss to the up-tight (usually older) women who give them the hairy eyeball. Let's face it: they are jealous and want the younguns to stay out of "their" territory. Women of all ages are catty as hell!
Lotsoffun201
02-07-19, 09:56
Just got back from a trip to Vegas.
I totally agree with your approach. It not only works in Vegas but also in other locations. Day shift strippers are the best! Some of the best SBs I ever had were on the day shift. The night shift seems to have more GPS, just like most of the pussy on the sugar sites. Girls who have to work hard to have a few bills stuffed in their G-string seem to appreciate a good SD situation, give you the GFE you want, come very reasonably priced, and are thankful for the extra cash. Besides, you can interview them live and have a pretty good idea what you are getting long before you make the sugar offer.
BTW: I love those looks when you are with your "niece. " LOL I tell my "nieces" to blow a kiss to the up-tight (usually older) women who give them the hairy eyeball. Let's face it: they are jealous and want the younguns to stay out of "their" territory. Women of all ages are catty as hell!That's my point exactly. Night girls, particularly the young hot ones are used to getting thousands stuffed in their gstring. For the most part, they're party girls, flaky, and frankly not very good company. Day girls work harder for less, many times they are either single moms, going to school, or have another job. They appreciate the attention, generally provide great GFE for reasonable amounts or better yet, appreciate a nice date etc. They appreciate a good ongoing thing. I have two now that I met locally one is in her late 30's, goes to school and has her shit together. We get together once every two weeks or so for cocktails or dinner and then an hour or so of GFE $$ The other is in her 40's, a bit more of a partier but has another job. She just likes to be treated to nice dinners, gives great GFE no additional charge. Trouble is I can only take her in small doses as she gets a little goofy when she drinks.
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