Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[Whitney31]

I am so frustrated lately with what I hear from my clients. I'm so over these girls that take advantage of them. I'm tired of girls upsaleing, the fake pics, the drug use, the pimps. Stop inabling these girls. They bat their lashes at you, give you a poor me story and then some wonder how they get cash and dashed or get a gun stuck in their face. These girls play a lot of you. They make things hard for the very few of us who have busted our asses most of our lives to give reliable service so we can pay our own bills, own a car, support our children. Just makes me sick. All of my clients have their own personal reasons why they indulge with us and all are so sweet and I hate when someone takes advantage of them. If the pic looks fake, it probably is. It's so important to read this forum and make a decision with your brain and not the goods. Keep your info personal. Don t give your full name, don't use your personal phone, don't tell them where you work, don't bring your wallet in with you, esp if you have your driver license in it or extra money. Just bring what is needed for the donation and if the girl has satisfied you above and beyond then go to your car and tip them. Tips are very much appreciated. Never pay for service up front and never discuss or exchange hands. A great provider will not be demanding of pay up front, to me, my donation is not worth jail time. That's why you wait til after your hour is complete. The smartest thing you can do is bring in your glasses or gum, sit it on a piece of furniture alongside the donation and make sure the girl sees you do that then when you leave just pick up the glasses and go out the door. No exchanging hands. All I can say is and I can't say it enough, be smart and be safe. Thanks! Xoxo your body rub specialist Whitney.

[RJHunter]

I am so frustrated lately with what I hear from my clients. I'm so over these girls that take advantage of them. I'm tired of girls upsaleing, the fake pics, the drug use, the pimps. Stop inabling these girls. They bat their lashes at you, give you a poor me story and then some wonder how they get cash and dashed or get a gun stuck in their face. These girls play a lot of you. They make things hard for the very few of us who have busted our asses most of our lives to give reliable service so we can pay our own bills, own a car, support our children. Just makes me sick. All of my clients have their own personal reasons why they indulge with us and all are so sweet and I hate when someone takes advantage of them. If the pic looks fake, it probably is. It's so important to read this forum and make a decision with your brain and not the goods. Keep your info personal. Don t give your full name, don't use your personal phone, don't tell them where you work, don't bring your wallet in with you, esp if you have your driver license in it or extra money. Just bring what is needed for the donation and if the girl has satisfied you above and beyond then go to your car and tip them. Tips are very much appreciated. Never pay for service up front and never discuss or exchange hands. A great provider will not be demanding of pay up front, to me, my donation is not worth jail time. That's why you wait til after your hour is complete. The smartest thing you can do is bring in your glasses or gum, sit it on a piece of furniture alongside the donation and make sure the girl sees you do that then when you leave just pick up the glasses and go out the door. No exchanging hands. All I can say is and I can't say it enough, be smart and be safe. Thanks! Xoxo your body rub specialist Whitney.You are spot on Whitney. I moved here from a large West Coast city where there are certainly fakes as well, but this area is a bad joke. A very few, sort of OK providers that you have to sort through dozens of fakes and frauds to find. I think it is intentional by LEO to go after the honest ones and leave the worst and most dangerous ones alone. Common sense would tell us that LEO would want to get the true dangerous felons off the street instead, but that doesn't seem to be their method in K-Town. It points to a completely corrupt political system that encourages the situation you write about. If it weren't for the very long drive required, I'd be a regular client of yours. Best Wishes.

[Noelle]

If I am using search (Advanced Search, top right of page), what would cause the screen to go completely blank? As in the entire page, within my browser.

Thanks in advance, Noelle.

[KnoxYankee]

Is it just me or does somebody think they're the Joker posting on BP reviews. I just decided to add this clown to my ignore list no reason to be feeding the trolls.

[MilfMan865]

I've been seeing quite a bit of discussion about MSOG being a deal breaker for some. I have a hard time understanding why MSOG isn't offered when a provider charges by the hour (no half-hour or quick visit sessions offered) or the monger simply books the hour (I haven't seen any ads where providers charge by the minute). I understand that some mongers will only book a QV or HHR and never deal with the HR issue. Some insight from providers may be needed on this one, but enlighten us on your thoughts concerning the "one and done" policy when a monger has already procured at least the HHR or HR session.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[Bezee2012]

OK gentlemen,

Question I have is if you had a provider drive outside an area she is familiar with and over an hour away would you object to her having a driver, be it male or female, with her? Driver is willing to drop her off and come back when she calls. We all have safety we worry about both for us and them. Just looking for some input on this. PM or post is fine.

Bezee.

[GaltGuy]

OK gentlemen,

Question I have is if you had a provider drive outside an area she is familiar with and over an hour away would you object to her having a driver, be it male or female, with her? Driver is willing to drop her off and come back when she calls. We all have safety we worry about both for us and them. Just looking for some input on this. PM or post is fine.

Bezee.Seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially since I'm assuming you have some background with the provider, else she wouldn't drive an hour to see you.

[Bezee2012]

Seems perfectly reasonable to me, especially since I'm assuming you have some background with the provider, else she wouldn't drive an hour to see you.I appreciate the responses I have gotten so far and just wanted to see if my thinking was on same page as others. I am not to worried about my safety if the provider comes to me because hell they are on my turf and don't know what to expect so a cash and dash or straight up robbery is very slim. I know a few providers that do utilize a driver for their personal safety. The provider I contacted I haven't met before but she is going to cone to me but asked if it was alright if she had a male driver since she is going to be over an hour from where she is and not familiar with my area. I am along the same think as most that if he drops her off and comes back when she calls I am cool with it. Again thank you to those that gave respondedresponded. Oshe is an UTR and I hope to get her to come up here more often and maybe get a room and let the Knoxville men sample her skills. She is a college student in Carolina that a friend of mine has seen. She wants to get away from where she might be recognized by other students and possibly family and she said Knoxville seems like a decent place to check out.

Bezee.

[Rrayr]

I've been seeing quite a bit of discussion about MSOG being a deal breaker for some. I have a hard time understanding why MSOG isn't offered when a provider charges by the hour (no half-hour or quick visit sessions offered) or the monger simply books the hour (I haven't seen any ads where providers charge by the minute). I understand that some mongers will only book a QV or HHR and never deal with the HR issue. Some insight from providers may be needed on this one, but enlighten us on your thoughts concerning the "one and done" policy when a monger has already procured at least the HHR or HR session.

Stay safe,

Milfman.I've always envied those bucks who could kick two goals back to back. Even when I was younger I was pretty much one and done and content for the day. It usually would take me about 3 hours later to come back around. That's why I always book HH or Qv's. I think regular providers would be open to MSOG. Honestly I feel it depends on the chemistry and how you treat them. If they genuinely enjoy your company there shouldn't be a prob. But if you treat em like a slab of meat. Well...

I've heard some providers mention and complain that it sometimes takes real work to get some of the older gents to pop. And if they don't pop they feel of course short changed and so the provider goes beyond the aloted time out of sympathy. So can you imagine if one of those dudes wanted to go again?! I also can understand from their perspective if a client wants to go again with minutes left on the clock, she's put into a situation where she either lets him try and finish the second goal, or has to cut him off at the agreed time and then be accused of being a "clock watcher". Finished or not.

Safe to say most here appreciate the "non-clock watchers".

Rrayr.

[John HandCock]

OK gentlemen,

Question I have is if you had a provider drive outside an area she is familiar with and over an hour away would you object to her having a driver, be it male or female, with her? Driver is willing to drop her off and come back when she calls. We all have safety we worry about both for us and them. Just looking for some input on this. PM or post is fine.

Bezee.I have no problem with them having a driver as long as he disappears until called. Don't want one calli g or beating on the door.

[Bezee2012]

Okay this hobbying is getting to the point of who can screw the other over first. I am not seeing any joy in it anymore. Most of the good providers are leaving Knoxville or straight up retiring. With all the "miscommunication" of MSOG and getting mad about it. Just ask upfrint and don't assume. The drastic low balling of providers when we know they are in need is actually pathetic. If you want to pay junkie prices get a junkie. We all know being prompt is not a strong point with most of the providers. There are exceptions and they get the premium prices. There have been reports of someone ripping off a member on here and if you all know he whole story of what happened you would think different of this guy but he will get his in the end. This same guy threatened me through the provider and it just made me laugh. To those that are setting appointments with a provider for outcall that you know is 45 minutes away and then canceling when they get there (you know who you are) well that is a childish punk thing. I may become person non Grata but I had to get this off my chest and let the few on here know that the little games they are playing are extremely childish and only hurt the hobby in the long run. If you don't want to see a provider for whatever reason don't contact them. People that know me and want me to elaborate some more can PM me but that is all I am going to say in public forum.

Sorry for the rant but this is an adult hobby and the children need to move on.

Bezee.

[Rrayr]

I think it's reasonable. Especially if it's a first encounter.
I also always ask if she's arriving alone or not and state preferences. Park and wait or no park drive and come back. Just common sense.

OK gentlemen,

Question I have is if you had a provider drive outside an area she is familiar with and over an hour away would you object to her having a driver, be it male or female, with her? Driver is willing to drop her off and come back when she calls. We all have safety we worry about both for us and them. Just looking for some input on this. PM or post is fine.

Bezee.

[RollOneUp]

A lot of new members with only a few post reviewing providers that have been around for awhile makes me wonder.

Note to all new posters / members on this forum. Go TOFFT with a new provider and post a review good or bad.

Give a extra ten to snap a couple of pics of the girl and post them.

Prove yourself to the rest of the members on this site. To many new members asking questions RTFF to much LEO on this site and to many provider busts.

JMOIf you don't want to share info then don't. Thats everyones choice.

Posting pictures of shays nasty ass doesn't make your posr any different. Why don't you follow your own advice? Of course the new guys are going to visit with the established providers. I have went underground and have been seeing only utr girls and sharing within my own circle. Theres not a chance in hell I would expose them and jeopardize my and their good health. After warning guys a about shay and some of the responses I got including yours. You just keep doing what your doing and let everyone else do the same. Jmo but anyone deserving of sr status should be able to find girls on their own not rely on bashing of newer members to find the latest biggest **** in knoxville.

[Sara8032]

So I'm planning on visiting you guys this week, but some of the things I have read here are quite disturbing and may be a deal breaker. I'm a safe, reliable, verified provider. In your forum I am reading things that quite concern me in regards to my safety. I'm reading about game playing, I'm reading about malicious ads, I'm reading about unsafe practices actually advocated for by a provider who now is understanding how orange is the new black. I'm reading about lowballing, I'm reading about sending ladies on wild goose chases:


Okay this hobbying is getting to the point of who can screw the other over first. Most of the good providers are leaving Knoxville or straight up retiring. The drastic low balling of providers when we know they are in need is actually pathetic. If you want to pay junkie prices get a junkie. To those that are setting appointments with a provider for outcall that you know is 45 minutes away and then canceling when they get there (you know who you are) well that is a childish punk thing. Sorry for the rant but this is an adult hobby and the children need to move on.

Bezee.


To those that are setting appointments with a provider for outcall that you know is 45 minutes away and then canceling when they get there (you know who you are) well that is a childish punk thing. This is why ladies screen or should screen. When you know who you are seeing this does not happen.


I'm tired of girls upselling, the fake pics, the drug use, the pimps.

If the pic looks fake, it probably is.

Keep your info personal. Don t give your full name, don't use your personal phone, don't tell them where you work, don't bring your wallet in with you, esp if you have your driver license in it or extra money. Just bring what is needed for the donation and if the girl has satisfied you above and beyond then go to your car and tip them. Tips are very much appreciated. Never pay for service up front and never discuss or exchange hands. A great provider will not be demanding of pay up front, to me, my donation is not worth jail time. Upselling is bad. Everyone leaves disappointed. A smart client only takes in the proper donation and maybe a tip. If he doesn't receive the services he expected for the posted rate, he leaves disappointed. The provider loses a potential regular because she disappointed the client.

If the pictures look fake. If the girl answering the door isn't the girl in the pix, you aren't the guy with the money. It's that simple.

Don't give you full name etc. And this is why she is sitting in the pokey. If you don't know who you are seeing, you have no way of protecting your self from getting busted, hurt, pranked, etc. A reputable provider won't see guys using burner phones. We have reviews for our legitimacy but clients are just an unknown on the other end of a text or call.

Here are threads from Indianapolis regarding burner phones and client verification:


Your real name is John Smith. You by a Verizon phone, with an account paid each month for you and your family under that name, multiple lines etc. That is your real phone. Has your real name and any info associated with it.

Now you buy a Walmart burner phone under the name of Joe Blow, pay cash, no links to any other personal information, no addresses, cities etc. This also is a real phone much different than apps or internet lines. However some providers can with a capital investment see that you are Joe Blow with no address or any other information. So, thus a burner phone and they won't answer or they tell you to call with a real phone or provide personal information to verify that you are safe. Again, probably 85% of the time a provider contacted doesn't care or know what phone or app you are using. The safe ones do!

Does this help?


A burner phone is one tool a man has to keep his identity for getting out to unsavory providers that might use it against them. Or to just keep some separation between real life and fun. Note that Sara didn't say she wouldn't see someone that uses a burner phone, only that you better be easily screen able because her safety comes first to her. Create a good reputation for yourself with good providers or get on a screening service to nudge things along, and good providers will respect that.

The ladies that don't ask any questions are the worrisome ones. Those are the ones that don't care about anything but their next fix and their next wad of cash to pay for it.


I responded to this before but do not know if A2 is declining to post my response. He's very busy so I'll try again.

One) do you think I could or would tell?

Two) providers must be able to protect themselves against creepers to remain safe. You have Reviews to fall back on when considering particular ladies. You, as just a number or a handle, could be this guy http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/textbook-case-w-va-sex-worker-stopped-serial-killer-authorities-n400646..

Three) discreet.

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Adjective.

Careful and circumspect in one's speech or actions, especially in order to avoid causing offense or to gain an advantage.

Four) anonwhymous.

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Adjective.

(of a person) not identified by name; of unknown name.

"the anonymous author of Beowulf".

Synonyms: unnamed, of unknown name, nameless, incognito, unidentified, unknown, unsourced, secret More.

Although often confused in the hobby, numbers three and four are very different. You do not have to remain anonymous to be discreet. Reputable and careful providers care about their safety and do not value your "need to remain anonymous " over their personal safety. It's that simple.

But to answer your question there exists many ways to determine if the number you are using is an app, a VOIP, a burner phone, a cell phone or a landline. Contact me on a burner and all communication ceases until you demonstrate that you value my need to remain safe. Just recently I had a guy contact me that I had to have him contact me from a non burner. Thank God I did. My spidey senses were on overload. Further research on this particular guy revealed numerous arrests for criminal confinement, aggravated battery, strangulation etc over the last couple of years and that he had been recently released from state custody. I know with every inch of my Bbw body, had I seen this guy I would have been beaten, raped and robbed.

I think I deserve that level of security that puts my safety over any clients anonymity.

Recently a valued provider on here was beaten and worse because she "respected" his need for anonymity. Fuck that.


Some of you have really screwed the pooch lately. I know it's difficult to play the game of how to determine if the ad is going to get you what you want when you visit, but really some of the dumb stuff that I have heard lately has already amazed me and blacklisted some of you.

Contacting New Ads: You see a NEW ad for a provider on BP, USA ACA, Er*s, Etc. Not one that has been reviewed, talked about or promoted before, again research is the key. What do you do. Contact them the way they specify in the ad. It's simple. If they want text only, use texts. If they want calls only, then call. If they want e-mails only then e-mail. If they don't specify then it's open season on how you want to contact them. But don't get pissy if you text and never hear back when the ad says Calls Only. You can try anything you want but if you don't follow the ad, you may never hear back.

Contacting Established Ads: The ads can be several places just like new ads and the method of contacting them is similar, just follow the ad's request. The ads for established providers like Heidi, Jordan, Aurora, Mmgeg, Bre Sexi, Leah even Sabrina's are ads for "established" providers. Why are they established, because there are multiple reviews / postings about them, you just have to look. Yes even Sabrina was discussed and pics posted for almost a week before she was available. It was clear that she was safe. I even put up a post in the proper forum, with a link an hour after her first appointment. She is known as a traveling provider and they do frequent the area from time to time so get used to doing the research. If someone like Ilapp is discussing her arrival you can bet that once she arrives she is safe, real and ready for business.

No Verification: Many BP ladies don't require verification. That's why LE has a field day with them. I was once told by a BP lady to bring her a pack of cigarettes because that way she knew I wasn't Uncle. That's how ignorant some of these ladies can be. If they don't ask for verification, then go ahead and set up the appointment, but then it's a somewhat risky TOFTT if there is no info about them from your research. Research is very important here so go to the research section of this blog and read how to do it.

Verification Required Unknown Provider: If the provider is not known then what they ask for and what you give them can be debatable depending on their request and your comfort level of their request. For many of you personal information, real phone numbers, workplace information, e-mail addresses are out of the question, but then you may not see them so don't get pissy. It's your choice. If they ask for provider references then be prepared to give them that info. I personally feel that if a provider asks for personal info and through my extensive research I find little to no info on them, then I will pass because it's either LE or a scam. I just won't waste my time with it.

Verification Required Known Providers: The ones that are known, are safe, have been reviewed or discussed then be prepared to comply with their verification process. It could include many things like a real phone number, workplace info, e-mail address etc. If they don't ask for other provider references then don't give them any because they obviously don't use them. If you don't like their verification process then you have a choice, provide it or don't see them. Don't send endless texts of multiple provider references to someone who really doesn't use them, it pisses them off! Some verified providers prefer to be called to discuss the verification process, some prefer texts, some e-mails. Follow their instructions. They are doing this for their safety as well as yours. What is really stupid is calling them on your real phone number and giving them a made up name. Now you are blocked because they normally know your real name. Again it's all about choices and the reliability and safety of the provider. The Kitty Club has a stringent verification process but it's safe so again it's your choice.

Contact Etiquette Unknown Providers: Ask unknown providers anything you want but just be aware it may cause you to be blocked. Asking if they suck dick and swallow will probably get you blocked and may get you arrested if by chance it was LE on the other end. No incriminating texts or convo's, wait until you are there. A lot of this is explained earlier in this blog so read it. I normally ask if FS is available and then wait until I am there to ask more about the menu so I can get a feel for the provider and situation. You can always walk away.

Contact Etiquette Established Providers: Calling or texting with known, reviewed, discussed and / or established providers requires some common sense. If you don't know what is offered from the research then your research probably sucks! Sabrina was discussed but the full menu was not, however it was made pretty clear that she was FS and most likely GFE. Things like greek and fetishes were not discussed but they are not a real common discussion and normally come out in reports later by those who partake if the provider provides these services. Now here is the issue that occurred recently. Don't text a provider asking about an appointment and then wait hours to return their text. These are not "unknown" BP ladies. They are more professional, so be quick in your responses. We all hate it when our texts go to crickets, well the good providers do also. Be responsive in a timely fashion so the provider doesn't feel like they are getting the run around, which is something we don't like either. The other thing is if you are having an inappropriate dialogue either through texts or a conversation and they ask you to stop, then STOP! Continuing on with this type of dialogue will only get you blacklisted. If you are dumb enough to continue on and they then refuse to see you, and then you tell them it's ok because you just came from watching their porn movie, don't get all pissy because you can no longer, ever and forever, see them because of your stupidity!

They Do Talk to Each Other Last but not least, most established providers communicate with each other. If you want to post about big noses on this board, or how someone must be unsafe because they did a porn movie in the past, or you want to push the personal limits and discretions of a young inexperienced provider by requesting personal pics or videos, then just be prepared for the fallout. Because they talk, because they know each other, your comments about one may BAN you from several. It's not always going to be evident. They may tell you to go away or your texts and calls may just go unanswered. It was your choice to say and do what you want, it's their choice to not see you now or ever again.

Oh by the way if you call a provider and they don't answer then they are either busy, a flake and not answering calls, or you have been blocked. Try calling providers several times, most call you back if they aren't flakes. Don't be a pest and call every 5 minutes but, once an hour and four or five times a day is not inappropriate. Texting a few times a day is also OK. If you never hear back from them after a couple of days of doing this then you are either blocked or they are a fake.

As always respect goes both ways. As a hobbyist if you show your humanity, then the good providers will show you a good time.JUST MY OBSERVATIONS.

[Rrayr]

If you don't want to share info then don't. Thats everyones choice.

Posting pictures of shays nasty ass doesn't make your posr any different. Why don't you follow your own advice? Of course the new guys are going to visit with the established providers. I have went underground and have been seeing only utr girls and sharing within my own circle. Theres not a chance in hell I would expose them and jeopardize my and their good health. After warning guys a about shay and some of the responses I got including yours. You just keep doing what your doing and let everyone else do the same. Jmo but anyone deserving of sr status should be able to find girls on their own not rely on bashing of newer members to find the latest biggest **** in knoxville.Skboy is only being cautious in light of recent events. But your condescending bashing is just halarious. Sounds like heartbroken love to me. What do the rest of you mongers think? Also I guess we should all go by each other's word of mouth with and what providers tell you with regards to good health. That's your control standard? Ha ha! Hello McFly! This IS risky behavior that you / we are all engaged in. And we all should treat everyone like we all have the Ebola in your cola. But I guess you are somehow privileged and get to see their doctors reports. Please enlighten us as to which ones are clean and healthy. Or stay underground.

[Nickn3]

I have seen Whitney a few time and would have even more if she were closer to Knoxville. She is a wonderful lady to visit with. It pains me to see her being so disrespected.

So many jealous and hateful people trying to punish one sweet and harmless lady. I can only guess some of the persecutors do it for religious reasons, well a part of my religion says Karma pays dividends, and another says do no harm, but take no shit.

To all of the hypocrites in Sevier County I hope your not looking up when Karma drops a load of shit on your heads. Some of you have surly earned it.

[Jg3786]

I have seen Whitney a few time and would have even more if she were closer to Knoxville. She is a wonderful lady to visit with. It pains me to see her being so disrespected.

So many jealous and hateful people trying to punish one sweet and harmless lady. I can only guess some of the persecutors do it for religious reasons, well a part of my religion says Karma pays dividends, and another says do no harm, but take no shit.

To all of the hypocrites in Sevier County I hope your not looking up when Karma drops a load of shit on your heads. Some of you have surly earned it.Very well said.

[MilfMan865]

So I'm planning on visiting you guys this week, but some of the things I have read here are quite disturbing and may be a deal breaker. I'm a safe, reliable, verified provider. In your forum I am reading things that quite concern me in regards to my safety. I'm reading about game playing, I'm reading about malicious ads, I'm reading about unsafe practices actually advocated for by a provider who now is understanding how orange is the new black. I'm reading about lowballing, I'm reading about sending ladies on wild goose chases:
JUST MY OBSERVATIONS.You stepped in from Indy to the Knoxville board, did some research, then "dropped the mic". Whoa, I had to pick up the mic that you dropped for a moment. I fully appreciate the way that you established a hypothesis, provided supporting evidence, then noted a conclusion based on that evidence. We all understand that conclusions are only as sound as the assumptions for which they are built upon. I acknowledge that some of the issues that you have read about could, and likely should, be a deal breaker for a traveling provider. Let me help enlighten you for a bit. We have a rather vocal board in our small neck of the woods compared to cities many times larger. We do a reasonable job of policing ourselves and calling out mongers who could do, but choose not to do better by the way they disrespect themselves, providers, or the hobby itself. You are reading the gritty, unfiltered, grimy, dirty realities of what is likely going on wherever you have visited or planning to visit; we're just putting it out there because we communicate and are passionate about it. I'm sure that you, like the rest of us, would rather that those travesties did not occur, but they do and you have the privilege of reading about it here. The alternative would be for us to be quiet about it and you would arrive unaware of the goings on; I'd prefer the raw and unabashed nature of how things are discussed on this board. Regardless of what you have read, writing off a visit may be a bit myopic and you would miss out meeting some really stand up gentlemen. Many of those gentlemen aren't as vocal on this board, but they would appreciate your taking the time to share your talents in Knoxville and would show you a remarkable time. Based on recent events (i.e., the busts), you may not want to set up in the Pigeon Forge / Gatlinburg area, but be sure to do a little sightseeing there. You seem like a provider who does her research, is always aware of her surroundings, is safety focused, is no non-sense, is verified and performs diligent screening, is book and street smart, and aims to please. With all of your superlatives, I can't imagine a location on this planet in which you wouldn't be able to thrive .,.,. especially little ol' Rocky Top Tennessee.

Continue your excellence.

MILFMan.

[RJHunter]

I have seen Whitney a few time and would have even more if she were closer to Knoxville. She is a wonderful lady to visit with. It pains me to see her being so disrespected.

So many jealous and hateful people trying to punish one sweet and harmless lady. I can only guess some of the persecutors do it for religious reasons, well a part of my religion says Karma pays dividends, and another says do no harm, but take no shit.

To all of the hypocrites in Sevier County I hope your not looking up when Karma drops a load of shit on your heads. Some of you have surly earned it.Their police departments must have way too much money available and no serious crime in Sevier County to hassle someone that has never been shown to hurt anyone or anything. I hope the voters keep that in mind when there are elections for Mayor, County Officials, etc. There should be consequences to how they utilize their tax payer resources.

I wonder why it is that we keep hearing about "stings" catching hookers and johns, and no big "Stings" catching drug dealers and gang bangers. Priorities.

[Rrayr]

I just read this interesting, Does and Don'ts post by Sr. Member Freckle Freak out in Indianapolis. A must read for all newbies.

Post #55

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?19166-First-Time-Posters-and-Newbies

[AT1976]

So my truck has a "check engine light" that is getting fairly annoying. What to do, what to do? Self service is always available, its my truck, I know what needs fixing, and what doesn't, I know what fluid brands I like and don't. But where is the fun in that? I could call a newly established mechanic with absolutely no BBB reviews. Maybe they fix the truck, maybe they take it for a "Test Drive" and I never see them again. I could take it to the "Dealership" nice prmium service, but a premium rate. Appointments are always ontime, and I know exactly what I am getting when I get there. I could call my mechanic. Well known, doesn't price gouge, doesn't try to fix things that aren't broken or try to sell me some liscense plate cover I don't need. Gets the job done for a fair price. Great option right? Well some history on my Mechanic, seems lately like he wants to talk to me about what jimmy's shop is doing and how Dave's shop is shorting the quality and raising the prices. I'm like? WTF? I didn't call Jimmy or Dave, what do I care how they are doing business? Last time I went to get an Oil change the mechanic asked if I could bring some GD oil? Did you not know you were a mechanic today? Did you put on your overalls, and turn on the open sign in the window and forget all about the tools you may need? Should I swing by Lowe's and pick up a cresent wrench? And why in the hell does your shop say always open, if you know your closed 6 hours a day? And when did my mechanic start working on an engine rebuild, get half way through and then tell me its extra if we need to finish? My truck is in pieces on the damn floor and you want to renegotiate the price? What happened to what we agreed to? See if this was your mechanic, I bet BBB would know all about them and how they did you wrong, and I bet your "buddies would not be like, I went there and everything was Awesome, and they rotated my tires for free, and your just a bitter truck owner. SO why are we treating our "Mechanics" any different here gentlemen? I just want to know which mechanics have what skills, and know how to agree on a price to fix my truck without stealing it? Isn't that hat this forum is about? Finding the right Mechanic to fix your check engine light?

[Bezee2012]

So my truck has a "check engine light" that is getting fairly annoying. What to do, what to do? Self service is always available, its my truck, I know what needs fixing, and what doesn't, I know what fluid brands I like and don't. But where is the fun in that? I could call a newly established mechanic with absolutely no BBB reviews. Maybe they fix the truck, maybe they take it for a "Test Drive" and I never see them again. I could take it to the "Dealership" nice prmium service, but a premium rate. Appointments are always ontime, and I know exactly what I am getting when I get there. I could call my mechanic. Well known, doesn't price gouge, doesn't try to fix things that aren't broken or try to sell me some liscense plate cover I don't need. Gets the job done for a fair price. Great option right? Well some history on my Mechanic, seems lately like he wants to talk to me about what jimmy's shop is doing and how Dave's shop is shorting the quality and raising the prices. I'm like? WTF? I didn't call Jimmy or Dave, what do I care how they are doing business? Last time I went to get an Oil change the mechanic asked if I could bring some GD oil? Did you not know you were a mechanic today? Did you put on your overalls, and turn on the open sign in the window and forget all about the tools you may need? Should I swing by Lowe's and pick up a cresent wrench? And why in the hell does your shop say always open, if you know your closed 6 hours a day? And when did my mechanic start working on an engine rebuild, get half way through and then tell me its extra if we need to finish? My truck is in pieces on the damn floor and you want to renegotiate the price? What happened to what we agreed to? See if this was your mechanic, I bet BBB would know all about them and how they did you wrong, and I bet your "buddies would not be like, I went there and everything was Awesome, and they rotated my tires for free, and your just a bitter truck owner. SO why are we treating our "Mechanics" any different here gentlemen? I just want to know which mechanics have what skills, and know how to agree on a price to fix my truck without stealing it? Isn't that hat this forum is about? Finding the right Mechanic to fix your check engine light?Very well put and love the break down and comparison.

[Rrayr]

I just started watching the Girlfriend Experience on Starz this week.

Although it's a fictional show, and the escorts are on the higher class end spectrum of things, I couldn't help but relate to the circumstances, lingo, scenarios, and predicaments the characters go through. Worth a watch.

TGFP
Rrayr

[MilfMan865]

I just started watching the Girlfriend Experience on Starz this week.

Although it's a fictional show, and the escorts are on the higher class end spectrum of things, I couldn't help but relate to the circumstances, lingo, scenarios, and predicaments the characters go through. Worth a watch.

TGFP
RrayrI concur with your assessment man. I watched the entire first season over a couple of days OnDemand. I don't have the propensity to binge watch, but the draw of Elvis Presley's granddaughter had me hooked. The higher end escort activities boggles the mind. It is in stark contrast to Secret Diary of a Call Girl from several years ago. The series is definitely worth a look.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[KoolAid]

Just putting it out there, if you can answer this question I'll be able to help you reconnect. This smoke filled room needs to be drawn out but all you have is an adjustable spray nozzle to cause this effect. If you know what it is hit me up.

Oh also she was fond of a Todd?

K. A.

[Bezee2012]

The list has a friend of mine on it. Initials are KHP guess she had to get out and celebrate after her rant on here about myself and Bluford. I do honestly wish her the best and hope she gets things turned around.

[Skboy]

The list has a friend of mine on it. Initials are KHP guess she had to get out and celebrate after her rant on here about myself and Bluford. I do honestly wish her the best and hope she gets things turned around.Got Strawberry too! Both girls living on the south side of town. Way to go KPD the gangs are running this cesspool of drugs town and your popping working girls. But lets talk about the real issues in this town Transgender Bathrooms hey Mayor and just because there is no money in busting gang members.

[FitDaddy3]

My issue with your post, mundane, is that you only have to something to say when someone makes fun of one of your girls. Rose has been called every unflattering name in the book on this forum and I've never read anything where you or anyone else took issue with that. Still, she must be making a living here or else she'd go somewhere else. If that's your girl you posted, I think that's great! You don't need to white knight her to the rest of the forum, though. If you don't like my opinion of the way she looks. Too bad! You're the one that posted her pic on here and opened her up to my opinion and everyone elses. I didn't expect to get any support in my way of thinking and I'm fine with that. I'm not going to lay down and let you or anyone else try and run over me about it, though. Bottom line. You're to blame for my post.

[MilfMan865]

So I saw the post about Jills 80 special. I had never tried her because honestly I thought the normal $. 2 quote was too high for what you got. But I see. 8 and think what the hell. I contacted her at a couple minutes past 5 thru text and by 533 we had an appointment set. My last response to her after getting the address was ok I will see you at 8 and will text when I am close. Done deal right? Wrong according to Jilly. After my 533 confirmation text I go into a meeting. While I'm in my meeting she freaking blows my phone up with 6 text which I don't get until after my meeting. I get out of my meeting at 644 I reply yes we are still on. She replys sorry I already booked the 8. WTF? Very very unprofessional. I'm done. You guys do what you will. But if these girls are allowed to tret customers that way then they will. I miss my fav massage girl.For this to happen to anyone, I hate that it happened to a highly-respected and perpetual contributor to the board. It sounds like you needed to confirm the confirmation of the confirmation within an unspecified period of time which happens to be less than the duration of your meeting. I agree with you Hound, an appointment is exactly that, your slot reserved, no further clarification needed.

This got me thinking about the looting etiquette of Need before Greed. I don't care if someone has had X appointment cancellations that day, my X+1 appointment should not be subjected to the non-professional behavior. Dealing with cancellations should be built into the business model as it's a normal part of doing business. A provider has a right to cancel a meeting for any reason she deems necessary just as a monger has the right to walk away of what you see at the door is vastly different than what is displayed in pics. This is a learning process for newer providers and further illustrates why it's hard for new providers to break into the biz and stay on top. When the business is coming fast and furious, does greed overtake whatever need was marketed, or are they just trying to strike while the iron is hot?

Dealing with a myriad of personalities and idiosyncrasies of various mongers makes me amazed that I never heard a complaint about Whitney, Candy Curves, Luscious Lexie, Thick Chick Bella, Lucy, Lovely Lydia, and there may be others, but those are the ones that come to mind not only for professionalism and stellar service, but longevity in the biz. They should not be overlooked nor forgotten.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[Lexie]

I try to provide stellar service and keep exact appointment times. I do understand things come up in lfe with everyone, so I do try not to get butthurt if someone has to cancel. As I do expect the same in return. I have not posted in a while due to the heat out there but rest assured I am working! I am not meeting new friends unless a senior member or a trusted provider can vet them. I enjoy my work as I hope my friends leave happy at the same time. Hope to see ya soon MM, stay safe and play hard. Luvs Luscious Lexie.


For this to happen to anyone, I hate that it happened to a highly-respected and perpetual contributor to the board. It sounds like you needed to confirm the confirmation of the confirmation within an unspecified period of time which happens to be less than the duration of your meeting. I agree with you Hound, an appointment is exactly that, your slot reserved, no further clarification needed.

This got me thinking about the looting etiquette of Need before Greed. I don't care if someone has had X appointment cancellations that day, my X+1 appointment should not be subjected to the non-professional behavior. Dealing with cancellations should be built into the business model as it's a normal part of doing business. A provider has a right to cancel a meeting for any reason she deems necessary just as a monger has the right to walk away of what you see at the door is vastly different than what is displayed in pics. This is a learning process for newer providers and further illustrates why it's hard for new providers to break into the biz and stay on top. When the business is coming fast and furious, does greed overtake whatever need was marketed, or are they just trying to strike while the iron is hot?

Dealing with a myriad of personalities and idiosyncrasies of various mongers makes me amazed that I never heard a complaint about Whitney, Candy Curves, Luscious Lexie, Thick Chick Bella, Lucy, Lovely Lydia, and there may be others, but those are the ones that come to mind not only for professionalism and stellar service, but longevity in the biz. They should not be overlooked nor forgotten.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[ThermoNuclear]

Excellent lengthy article on the profession, modern enforcement history, and those advocating abolition vs decriminalization.

It's worth a read.

"A growing movement of sex workers and activists is making the decriminalization of sex work a feminist issue. ".

Direct link: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/magazine/should-prostitution-be-a-crime.html.

This link should get you around the paywall: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjh7-DPk83MAhVGPCYKHYHUCUEQFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F05%2F08%2Fmagazine%2Fshould-prostitution-be-a-crime.html&usg=AFQjCNHdJ05ZaxIZJ8kG5oc6og34HZoRTw.

[Rrayr]

Excellent lengthy article on the profession, modern enforcement history, and those advocating abolition vs decriminalization.

It's worth a read.

"A growing movement of sex workers and activists is making the decriminalization of sex work a feminist issue. ".

Direct link: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/08/magazine/should-prostitution-be-a-crime.html.

This link should get you around the paywall: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjh7-DPk83MAhVGPCYKHYHUCUEQFggdMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2016%2F05%2F08%2Fmagazine%2Fshould-prostitution-be-a-crime.html&usg=AFQjCNHdJ05ZaxIZJ8kG5oc6og34HZoRTw.Good article. Some thoughts: I feel.

It's demand for supply. There will always be a demand by men for a supply. I reverse those normally two linked words (supply and demand) because in a world where there is an abundant "supply" for men, IF men cared less about needing and wanting sex, there wouldn't be a demand. Or at least an extremely low demand. Women do not give out sex for free.
I have this honest convo with "straight" women all the time, and most just don't get why men need sex. And how we can have it with no emotions attached. Their responses are usually "ew"! Or "sick". The providers on the other hand, not so much. They get it.
All men pay for it in some way or another.

So which one is it?

Supply equals money and demand equals sex?

Or.

Supply equals sex and demand equals money?

I demand sex now I have the money. I think it does matters which comes first.

What I find interesting is that no one is looking at or talking about the side of the Mans needs and why men seek out sex, without the risk of name calling. "Perverts, over sexed, addicts, psychological obsessive disorder and it's all we think about".

Before I started this hobbie, I used to be judgemental about the trade. I now look at providers and courtesans in a totally different light. From this males perspective, I can't imagine a world without them. But, on second thought I guess I can imagine that world. And it's not a safe pretty world.

Rrayr.

[KnoxVol]

Anyone tried this contraption?

https://scroguard.com/how-it-worksI think that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Well that and the underwear that let's you cum in the strip club LOL.

[Noelle]

Here are some thoughts I've shared elsewhere on this topic:

"Prostitution" is a crime of semantics only.

"Prostitution" as a defined term, "exchange of sex for money or some other benefit", has always been legal. The legal form being by contract, and referred to as Marriage.

Any married person who has been thru marriage counseling can tell you that the first thing that is discussed is His Needs and Her Needs.

His Needs are usually expressed semantically as Devotion / Admiration. But when you get down to the crux of it, it is not about how clean the house is, how ordered the finances are, how well-behaved the kids are, or how good the food tastes. A man will feel most admired / devoted to when he is getting lots of sex.

Her Needs are usually expressed semantically as Safety / Support. She wants to not have to worry about a roof over her and her children's heads, food in everyone's mouths, and freedom to pursue hobbies and interests. Which is generally provided for by $$.

Marriage is a money / sex exchange. It always has been, always will be. Marriage is legal prostitution.

So, many will argue, NO, it more than that!

And I would agree, and say that it is the SAME for ALL male / female interactions, because every time I meet with one of my gentleman callers, it is ALWAYS more than that, but because I am single and polyamorous, society only wants to focus on the sex and money (and if I declare that I am a polyamorous, SAHM, it's discrimination based on sexual orientation and familial status, since mono-amorism is ok, but poly is not?

So, either we only focus on the "sex / money only" on ALL fronts and call ALL spades a spade; or we recognize that each and every interaction between men and women is negotiated as a mutual benefit exchange, unique to each coupling, regardless of benefit, and allow private consensual matters between adults to remain private, regardless of what semantics we use.


Good article. Some thoughts: I feel.

It's demand for supply. There will always be a demand by men for a supply. I reverse those normally two linked words (supply and demand) because in a world where there is an abundant "supply" for men, IF men cared less about needing and wanting sex, there wouldn't be a demand. Or at least an extremely low demand. Women do not give out sex for free.
I have this honest convo with "straight" women all the time, and most just don't get why men need sex. And how we can have it with no emotions attached. Their responses are usually "ew"! Or "sick". The providers on the other hand, not so much. They get it.
All men pay for it in some way or another.

So which one is it?

Supply equals money and demand equals sex?

Or.

Supply equals sex and demand equals money?

I demand sex now I have the money. I think it does matters which comes first.

What I find interesting is that no one is looking at or talking about the side of the Mans needs and why men seek out sex, without the risk of name calling. "Perverts, over sexed, addicts, psychological obsessive disorder and it's all we think about".

Before I started this hobbie, I used to be judgemental about the trade. I now look at providers and courtesans in a totally different light. From this males perspective, I can't imagine a world without them. But, on second thought I guess I can imagine that world. And it's not a safe pretty world.

Rrayr.

[RazorXX]

I think that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Well that and the underwear that let's you cum in the strip club LOL.HA! First thing I thought of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFC0O393DQ

[ThermoNuclear]

A truism is that sex is 90% of a bad relationship and 10% of a good relationship.

If you ponder that, it accounts for all the other things that a genuine, caring, devoted relationship can be. Sadly I and I am sure a zillion others of both genders got a bill of goods not matching the ideal when saying "I do".

I pay others to mow the lawn, because I never wanted the goddamn yard with the upkeep and half the weekend all summer to makntain. Likewise I have to outsource the sex and adult interaction because sadly the princess doesn't see this as her responsibility or interest. So it goes.

Noelle, I need to look you up as you are clearly intelligent understanding of the needs of men and women and how this crappy world of artificial scarcity for sex works. Cheers. And cudos to you for honesty and insight.


Here are some thoughts I've shared elsewhere on this topic:

"Prostitution" is a crime of semantics only.

"Prostitution" as a defined term, "exchange of sex for money or some other benefit", has always been legal. The legal form being by contract, and referred to as Marriage.

Any married person who has been thru marriage counseling can tell you that the first thing that is discussed is His Needs and Her Needs.

His Needs are usually expressed semantically as Devotion / Admiration. But when you get down to the crux of it, it is not about how clean the house is, how ordered the finances are, how well-behaved the kids are, or how good the food tastes. A man will feel most admired / devoted to when he is getting lots of sex.

Her Needs are usually expressed semantically as Safety / Support. She wants to not have to worry about a roof over her and her children's heads, food in everyone's mouths, and freedom to pursue hobbies and interests. Which is generally provided for by $$.

Marriage is a money / sex exchange. It always has been, always will be. Marriage is legal prostitution.

So, many will argue, NO, it more than that!

And I would agree, and say that it is the SAME for ALL male / female interactions, because every time I meet with one of my gentleman callers, it is ALWAYS more than that, but because I am single and polyamorous, society only wants to focus on the sex and money (and if I declare that I am a polyamorous, SAHM, it's discrimination based on sexual orientation and familial status, since mono-amorism is ok, but poly is not?

So, either we only focus on the "sex / money only" on ALL fronts and call ALL spades a spade; or we recognize that each and every interaction between men and women is negotiated as a mutual benefit exchange, unique to each coupling, regardless of benefit, and allow private consensual matters between adults to remain private, regardless of what semantics we use.

[RJHunter]

Here are some thoughts I've shared elsewhere on this topic:

"Prostitution" is a crime of semantics only.

"Prostitution" as a defined term, "exchange of sex for money or some other benefit", has always been legal. The legal form being by contract, and referred to as Marriage.

Any married person who has been thru marriage counseling can tell you that the first thing that is discussed is His Needs and Her Needs.

His Needs are usually expressed semantically as Devotion / Admiration. But when you get down to the crux of it, it is not about how clean the house is, how ordered the finances are, how well-behaved the kids are, or how good the food tastes. A man will feel most admired / devoted to when he is getting lots of sex.

Her Needs are usually expressed semantically as Safety / Support. She wants to not have to worry about a roof over her and her children's heads, food in everyone's mouths, and freedom to pursue hobbies and interests. Which is generally provided for by $$.

Marriage is a money / sex exchange. It always has been, always will be. Marriage is legal prostitution.

So, many will argue, NO, it more than that!

And I would agree, and say that it is the SAME for ALL male / female interactions, because every time I meet with one of my gentleman callers, it is ALWAYS more than that, but because I am single and polyamorous, society only wants to focus on the sex and money (and if I declare that I am a polyamorous, SAHM, it's discrimination based on sexual orientation and familial status, since mono-amorism is ok, but poly is not?

So, either we only focus on the "sex / money only" on ALL fronts and call ALL spades a spade; or we recognize that each and every interaction between men and women is negotiated as a mutual benefit exchange, unique to each coupling, regardless of benefit, and allow private consensual matters between adults to remain private, regardless of what semantics we use.100% accurate. Its also the case that nearly every Western Nation in the world except the USA Has recognized this and legalized prostitution. Its only our fruitcake religious right wing that prevents it from being legal in The USA And that's because they want to control sex instead of allowing individuals to make their own choices.

[CrazyEddie]

Just curious if he came, got blitzed, and arrested.

[AT1976]

Might just be me, and I am not trying to instigate anything. Is it possible to give a Report with less detail? Well I guess it may be, at least the girls name is here. What does this tell anyone. Don't get me wrong, some of my posts are horrible, I wish I had done better when I first started.


Took a nap and dreamed of bella last week. Dream was pleasant. I am sure I will dream again.We have posts like this hitting the market after a post by MM showing the best post I think I have ever seen:


Ad Location: http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/422/posts/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/2-Massages-Massage-Parlors/16581-Sensual-deep-tissue-massage-.html.

Ad Posted: Thursday, May 5, 2016.

Provider contact: Jilly Bean (Forum Advertiser on USA Adult Classifieds) - contacted her through the number included in her ad.

Recommend? : Yes, highly. I get the impression that Jill takes constructive criticism well since she has made considerable improvements.

Note: This is a follow-up to previous reviews, only focusing on aspects that are different than what has been previously reported by me or others.

The Good:

Jill's deep tissue massage skills have improved considerably. I commented before that she moved around a bit, somewhat sporadically, during previous sessions, but she was focused and made a concerted effort to massage an area before moving on to another. Her core massage technique is still being refined and the improvements are to be applauded (especially her glute / hip approach using the circular effleurage). Having a couple of windows cracked created a soothing breeze through out the room along with the light aroma of candles. The lotion used didn't have a strong fragrance and once again, the heated lotion was a nice touch. Offered to hang my clothes so that they wouldn't get wrinkled. A shower was offered, but wasn't really needed since the lotion didn't leave me smelling like I'd been rolling around in a flower bed. I left relaxed, rejuvenated and looking forward to my next visit.

Opportunities for Improvement:

Music was playing this time, it was a radio station. I'd suggest playing Pandora or having a CD of sensual music (without lyrics) to help set the ambiance. I'm normally focused on the massage at hand but got a little distracted by a someone yelling at me to "Get on down to wherever and get a car! Buy here pay here! Yahhhh!

I'm not sure about any changes to her screening process or appointment setup since I've seen her on numerous occasions and contacted her on short notice for which she was able to accommodate me almost immediately.

Perhaps investing in a coat rack would be nice. Having a spot to hang a suit coat, dress shirt, hat, etc., such that everything is in a convenient location indicative of other massage places.

Seniors and Trusted may contact me directly for clarification on anything included in this follow-up report.

Stay thirsty my friends.,,.

Milfman.Again not trying to start anything, just wish there was a little more detail. Austin.

[AllyTheBest865]

Can someone please give the real definition of "upscale" ? Either I'm stupid, been bamboozled or this word is being used a little to free by want to-bees.

I'll take this one.

Here, this is upscale;

http://www.soloindependientes.com/escorts-acompanantes/Britany_15-2513-4846_945.htm

70 bucks an hour.

You're welcome

A2

[CrazyEddie]

Might just be me, and I am not trying to instigate anything. Is it possible to give a Report with less detail? Well I guess it may be, at least the girls name is here. What does this tell anyone. Don't get me wrong, some of my posts are horrible, I wish I had done better when I first started.

We have posts like this hitting the market after a post by MM showing the best post I think I have ever seen:

Again not trying to start anything, just wish there was a little more detail. Austin.Completely agree with you there. Two things I hate to see in reviews. Opinions (she had a perfect body, she was beautiful, she was fat, the BJ was super). Instead, facts. (The pictures were her, not her, only CJB, BBBJ, she was on time, she was late etc.) Secondly, I hate seeing someone's dick getting sucked. Do you really think I am interested in seeing your little sparrow egg getting serviced? Pictures of the provider are great. Pictures with your little buddy in it are not.

[AllyTheBest865]

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[Bezee2012]

I have a few providers that are friends and some of the things they and the mongers ask for in LEO checks make me laugh. When it comes down to it in court it would be your word against theirs as to what took place. Who is going to be believed more, the cop or the trick / John? Honestly the checks are truly a joke. We as mongers (well a lot of them) think if a girl sends a picture of her boobs it proves she isn't a cop. Boob pics are pretty easy to find on the net and so are dick pics. Just ranting some on this boring Sunday afternoon.

[KenVetteman]

I have a few providers that are friends and some of the things they and the mongers ask for in LEO checks make me laugh. When it comes down to it in court it would be your word against theirs as to what took place. Who is going to be believed more, the cop or the trick / John? Honestly the checks are truly a joke. We as mongers (well a lot of them) think if a girl sends a picture of her boobs it proves she isn't a cop. Boob pics are pretty easy to find on the net and so are dick pics. Just ranting some on this boring Sunday afternoon.Asking if you are LEO is so worthless. LEO can lie with immunity ken.

[AT1976]

Will be out of the game a for a week or more. Have to get a tendon relocated. Hope all is well with the world, whilst I'm gone. Happy hunting, stay safe, and remember " Don't sweat the petty shit, and don't pet the sweaty shit. ".

[SpurMonster1]

Dreamt that Brandi is home from vacation. Saw her in fountain city on Tuesday. She looks great, Clear eyes, clear head I had a great time with her, she has put on just a couple of pounds but in all the right places. Service was exceptional. Hung around for a while and chatted she seems to be in a good place but has to be careful. Ill ask if she wants to share number with friends and respond in private. If you get the chance go and she her.LEO's give themselves away every time with poor grammar and questionable specifics. Go away, LEO. Peaceful people can live their lives without you and therein lies the rub, LEO's are not peaceful. LEO's want to do what authoritarian bullies tell them to do for money. LEO's are sick and insecure people on this site.

[BigJim865]

Dreamt that Brandi is home from vacation. Saw her in fountain city on Tuesday. She looks great, Clear eyes, clear head I had a great time with her, she has put on just a couple of pounds but in all the right places. Service was exceptional. Hung around for a while and chatted she seems to be in a good place but has to be careful. Ill ask if she wants to share number with friends and respond in private. If you get the chance go and she her.Whether you are LEO or a monger is in question at this point. Either way I could care less but if you are LEO, I would say you are posting for the sheer purpose of getting your numbers up and reaching senior status with vague known facts about providers. If your a true monger my advice is that no one will trust you until you have brought something of substance to the forum. Either way your legitimacy is at question.

BigJim.

[Admin2]

Whether you are LEO or a monger is in question at this point. Either way I could care less but if you are LEO, I would say you are posting for the sheer purpose of getting your numbers up and reaching senior status with vague known facts about providers. If your a true monger my advice is that no one will trust you until you have brought something of substance to the forum. Either way your legitimacy is at question.

BigJim.


LEO's give themselves away every time with poor grammar and questionable specifics. Go away, LEO. Peaceful people can live their lives without you and therein lies the rub, LEO's are not peaceful. LEO's want to do what authoritarian bullies tell them to do for money. LEO's are sick and insecure people on this site.You two need to learn to use the correct thread for your stupid shit. I got tired of cleaning up threads in Knoxville and that's why I made this thread.

A2

[Jim7767]

Hello again,

First-- Fitdaddy does not think this is necessary. Maybe so and maybe not. It is for all of you to decide and please post any information that could be helpful to all of us. I want to give my perspective to all of you on this site, and am sure others would appreciate yours.

The guys today.

We are looking for sex, plain and simple. Whatever that is to you, or any of you, is in your ball park. This needs to be discussed, no matter how difficult and uncomfortable it can be sometimes.

Our problem is we like variety. That is why we are here on this site. Maybe this is the wrong area of the site to be on. Maybe we need to go back to the top of the page to classified, or BP.

I am on 411 and TER and they are helpful for the the variety seeker and you can see the varieties described there. The 411 annual is my favorite for starters.

Some of us wanr more commitment and some less. Do you want an exclusive deal on both sides or does it matter? How often. How long. Where? When? What time of day?

We need to think about should it be private and discrete? Weekends? How many times a month? How much advance notice? Dinner out? Travel?

Will there be a lot of phone talk? Texting? Them hearing about our problems and we hearing about theirs.

Payment each time? Weekly, Monthly. Gifts for holidays and special days. How much will work for both? Will it change? What about emergencies?

We probably want to keep in UTR. Will she keep it that way? What if we want her and her girlfriend?

Rant: I hate the girl having the cell phone on while I am with them. If they cannot turn it off, I can be out the door. That should be our time.

I do not smoke. I really do not want a smoker, but they are hard to find. They should not smoke during our time together anyway. Your choice.

I would suggest a meeting and talking first if you are serious about something long term. If you are just looking for getting to home plate asap, know that ahead of time. Those are hard to get any mileage out of.

I have have met 2 SB so far. These were not the girls on top of these pages. I researched and contacted only what I consider true SB's.

First one texted, talked in car, talked money, and got a room. Beautiful girl, nice body, she enjoyed the sex, I did not. Made another date to just talk and she did not show. Good with me as it saved me from a long discussion why I thought we were not right with each other.

Second one, meet and greet. Nice lady, looked good, nice body, liked me and I liked her. Made date for later in week. Got room. In bed she did not really enjoy the sex. Texted and wanted to meet this week. I will say we are not right for each other.

I may be of the opinion, from these meetings, that these ladies are not like the hookers we usually date. I have to rethink what is my appeal for a SB? Why not an escort when and where I want. They know their job and most do it well if you do some mining.

I will go on a few more meet and greets only. I will be more direct with the sex questions. I will let them know my deal breakers and I want to know theirs.

Next time I will post what my opinion of what the SB's are looking for.

All of your opinions are important, so go ahead and post.

[FitDaddy3]

Hello again,

First-- Fitdaddy does not think this is necessary. Maybe so and maybe not. It is for all of you to decide and please post any information that could be helpful to all of us. I want to give my perspective to all of you on this site, and am sure others would appreciate yours.

The guys today.

We are looking for sex, plain and simple. Whatever that is to you, or any of you, is in your ball park. This needs to be discussed, no matter how difficult and uncomfortable it can be sometimes.

Our problem is we like variety. That is why we are here on this site. Maybe this is the wrong area of the site to be on. Maybe we need to go back to the top of the page to classified, or BP.

I am on 411 and TER and they are helpful for the the variety seeker and you can see the varieties described there. The 411 annual is my favorite for starters.

Some of us wanr more commitment and some less. Do you want an exclusive deal on both sides or does it matter? How often. How long. Where? When? What time of day?

We need to think about should it be private and discrete? Weekends? How many times a month? How much advance notice? Dinner out? Travel?

Will there be a lot of phone talk? Texting? Them hearing about our problems and we hearing about theirs.

Payment each time? Weekly, Monthly. Gifts for holidays and special days. How much will work for both? Will it change? What about emergencies?

We probably want to keep in UTR. Will she keep it that way? What if we want her and her girlfriend?

Rant: I hate the girl having the cell phone on while I am with them. If they cannot turn it off, I can be out the door. That should be our time.

I do not smoke. I really do not want a smoker, but they are hard to find. They should not smoke during our time together anyway. Your choice.

I would suggest a meeting and talking first if you are serious about something long term. If you are just looking for getting to home plate asap, know that ahead of time. Those are hard to get any mileage out of.

I have have met 2 SB so far. These were not the girls on top of these pages. I researched and contacted only what I consider true SB's.

First one texted, talked in car, talked money, and got a room. Beautiful girl, nice body, she enjoyed the sex, I did not. Made another date to just talk and she did not show. Good with me as it saved me from a long discussion why I thought we were not right with each other.

Second one, meet and greet. Nice lady, looked good, nice body, liked me and I liked her. Made date for later in week. Got room. In bed she did not really enjoy the sex. Texted and wanted to meet this week. I will say we are not right for each other.

I may be of the opinion, from these meetings, that these ladies are not like the hookers we usually date. I have to rethink what is my appeal for a SB? Why not an escort when and where I want. They know their job and most do it well if you do some mining.

I will go on a few more meet and greets only. I will be more direct with the sex questions. I will let them know my deal breakers and I want to know theirs.

Next time I will post what my opinion of what the SB's are looking for.

All of your opinions are important, so go ahead and post.I welcomed your input on my first response and welcome it again now. My only point of contention was your opening sentence in your first post, which said, "I think it is time for some of us to post information about the ladies posting on SA. " it seemed to discount the many posts that have been made before yours, almost to the extent of pretending they didn't even exist. I think your posts can be helpful and add a great deal to the discussion. They are not, however, what has not initiated the discussion my reply was only meant to make that clear. Thank you.

[MilfMan865]

Stopped by Kmart on Broadway since it is closing. Burner phones for about $7 after discount.

.,.,., stuff below may be ignored for those who don't need the details .,.,.
The models that I saw were Tracfone's with 2 X minutes for every Airtime Minute that you buy. The Alcatel OneTouch A205 G and the Huawei H110 C. I don't text on the burner and only use them for calls. Paid cash, didn't use the reward card, stocked up. Not sure of any discounts on the Anytime Minute cards since I didn't get one. This is not an endorsement of Kmart or Tracfone, just passing along the info for those needing a burner phone and happen to be out that way.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[MilfMan865]

A buddy informed me that the free TextNow app can be used on a smartphone as an alternative to a dedicated burner phone since it provides a separate number that can be used for messaging and calls. I haven't used TextNow and don't know the security specifics as opposed to something physically separate, but it may work for some of you. This may be old technique to many, but I'm a bit behind the times on apps and such.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[BallSwinger]

A buddy informed me that the free TextNow app can be used on a smartphone as an alternative to a dedicated burner phone since it provides a separate number that can be used for messaging and calls. I haven't used TextNow and don't know the security specifics as opposed to something physically separate, but it may work for some of you. This may be old technique to many, but I'm a bit behind the times on apps and such.

Stay safe,

Milfman.How's that different than GoogleVoice that has been around for years?

BS.

[MilfMan865]

How's that different than GoogleVoice that has been around for years?

BS.It doesn't look like any difference. On the surface, I can't see any benefits that would place TextNow over the proven GoogleVoice. Some of you more smartphone tech savvy gentlemen will need to address that in detail.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[I Am Noone]

It doesn't look like any difference. On the surface, I can't see any benefits that would place TextNow over the proven GoogleVoice. Some of you more smartphone tech savvy gentlemen will need to address that in detail.

Stay safe,

Milfman.You're right MM. In a pure phone carrier environment, text messages are encrypted at the source and then decrypted when it hits the receiver's phone. With apps like Google Voice, TextNow, etc. , the decryption happens when the message hits their servers, so you're texts are probably being stored in plain text in a database somewhere. It basically comes down to how comfortable you are with having Google, etc. Be able to read your messages.

[JoeyMahoney69]

1,2,3 stars. How do we get them? Is it the quality of our posts? The number of posts? Looking around the site and couldn't find an answer. So thought I would ask here.

[Jim7767]

1,2,3 stars. How do we get them? Is it the quality of our posts? The number of posts? Looking around the site and couldn't find an answer. So thought I would ask here.I would like to know about the stars also.

[Bezee2012]

I would like to know about the stars also.Maybe it is good boy points for not getting infractions. Lord knows I have a hard time not causing trouble.

[BallSwinger]

Anyone seen this one? Or have any info? Been looking at this one for a while.

http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/french-vanilla-delight/17111433Did you even bother searching this forum for reviews? Use the search window in the top right corner and you'll learn all you need to know. She's been reviewed extensively.

[Bezee2012]

Did you even bother searching this forum for reviews? Use the search window in the top right corner and you'll learn all you need to know. She's been reviewed extensively.Why put forth the effort when we should just hand over the info! Got to love the newbies. Not all are like that luckily.

[Rrayr]

Today, 18:29 .

Quote Originally Posted by Skboy.

I have to agree with everyone on this one.

Not the smartest thing to do Stonedroller69 going BB with a SW.

Because if she is letting you she is letting anyone who wants to.

Just my two cents.


StonesRoller69
Okay, plenty of reviews with guys going BB with all kinds of providers. Are you guys (the ones who go BB) really believing your providers are immune and only the other guys' (or just SWs) are going to be an issue? Denial ain't a river in Egypt. But I don't mind the feedback, just expect mine in return may not agree completely with yours.

@StonesRoller69, I take back what I said about you being "somewhat intelligent".

Your response post says it all.

I did some fact checking and neither I, SKBoy or SpamAccount123 has ever encouraged using no protection when it comes to FS with any providers inside this sport. As a matter a fact, I think you would be hard press to find any seasoned Monger on this forum who thinks not using any protection is a wonderful peachy idea.

The river your floating down is called Russian Roulette.

Are you under 20?
Do you need a Mentor?

Here's a little feedback:
Please do not promote or encourage reckless behavior.

Rrayr

[StonesRoller69]

@StonesRoller69, I take back what I said about you being "somewhat intelligent".

Your response post says it all.

I did some fact checking and neither I, SKBoy or SpamAccount123 has ever encouraged using no protection when it comes to FS with any providers inside this sport. As a matter a fact, I think you would be hard press to find any seasoned Monger on this forum who thinks not using any protection is a wonderful peachy idea.

The river your floating down is called Russian Roulette.

Are you under 20?
Do you need a Mentor?

Here's a little feedback:
Please do not promote or encourage reckless behavior.

RrayrWell, you are still in denial if you think getting a BBBJ can't give you something. Same scenario you just pointed out, think about all the dicks and cum in there. And I'm not encouraging anybody to do anything, just reporting on my experience. Geez, you fucking seniors think you're all that and then some! First you bust my chops to post reviews and when I do you jump all over them. So, stay away from me, asshole and mind your own fucking business. What a douchebag!

[Mjmtax]

Well, you are still in denial if you think getting a BBBJ can't give you something. Same scenario you just pointed out, think about all the dicks and cum in there. And I'm not encouraging anybody to do anything, just reporting on my experience. Geez, you fucking seniors think you're all that and then some! First you bust my chops to post reviews and when I do you jump all over them. So, stay away from me, asshole and mind your own fucking business. What a douchebag!By Stones' own admission, he has been mongering for decades. It's probably safe to assume that he has gone BB with dozens (hundreds?) of women over that time period, and it apparently hasn't bitten him yet. And it may never bite him. Yes, he's rolling the dice, but we all do to some degree, protection or not. I get a little tired of the self-righteousness of some of the posters regarding using protection. I would wager a significant sum that most of the posters on these boards have gone BB with providers, strippers, SW's, UTR's. Whatever, and probably more than once. If it makes you feel better and lets you sleep easier at night, then by all means, use protection every time, good for you. But get off the back of others who come here and provide valuable intel, that's what this board is for.

[VolNation]

By Stones' own admission, he has been mongering for decades. It's probably safe to assume that he has gone BB with dozens (hundreds?) of women over that time period, and it apparently hasn't bitten him yet. And it may never bite him. Yes, he's rolling the dice, but we all do to some degree, protection or not. I get a little tired of the self-righteousness of some of the posters regarding using protection. I would wager a significant sum that most of the posters on these boards have gone BB with providers, strippers, SW's, UTR's. Whatever, and probably more than once. If it makes you feel better and lets you sleep easier at night, then by all means, use protection every time, good for you. But get off the back of others who come here and provide valuable intel, that's what this board is for.Not to beat a dead horse but. It is a statistics game. Use a condom or pay the price. Your choice. I know there are people out there who think they will never be the one but the sad fact is you are wrong. Numbers never lie. Use a condom or wish you had. Your choice. Not preaching, just saying be smart and never regret not having one.

[StonesRoller69]

By Stones' own admission, he has been mongering for decades. It's probably safe to assume that he has gone BB with dozens (hundreds?) of women over that time period, and it apparently hasn't bitten him yet. And it may never bite him. Yes, he's rolling the dice, but we all do to some degree, protection or not. I get a little tired of the self-righteousness of some of the posters regarding using protection. I would wager a significant sum that most of the posters on these boards have gone BB with providers, strippers, SW's, UTR's. Whatever, and probably more than once. If it makes you feel better and lets you sleep easier at night, then by all means, use protection every time, good for you. But get off the back of others who come here and provide valuable intel, that's what this board is for.I honestly think you made my point better than I did!

[BallSwinger]

By Stones' own admission, he has been mongering for decades. It's probably safe to assume that he has gone BB with dozens (hundreds?) of women over that time period, and it apparently hasn't bitten him yet. And it may never bite him. Yes, he's rolling the dice, but we all do to some degree, protection or not. I get a little tired of the self-righteousness of some of the posters regarding using protection. I would wager a significant sum that most of the posters on these boards have gone BB with providers, strippers, SW's, UTR's. Whatever, and probably more than once. If it makes you feel better and lets you sleep easier at night, then by all means, use protection every time, good for you. But get off the back of others who come here and provide valuable intel, that's what this board is for.Agreed, on everything but the "self-righteous" part. No reason to discourage him from giving intel. You can use his report just as I did, and mark the ladies off your list as playing too recklessly. I'd rather know which girls are freely allowing BBFS and avoid them, than not and climb into that petri dish.

BS.

[Mjmtax]

Not to beat a dead horse but. It is a statistics game. Use a condom or pay the price. Your choice. I know there are people out there who think they will never be the one but the sad fact is you are wrong. Numbers never lie. Use a condom or wish you had. Your choice. Not preaching, just saying be smart and never regret not having one.Numbers often do lie. I play with numbers for a living, so I know. As my economics professor was fond of saying, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics! You could play once, with protection, and still get burned. Or, you could play thousands of times without protection, and come out smelling like a rose. It ain't fair, but nothing in this life is.

[EchoEcho]

Pretty much over putting chick pics on here just to have some pussy-desperate jackwagon pull out his phone

|~instead of his dick~|

just so that he can show some girl 'how popular' she is. Some even do it as a negotiating point for a lower price.

Assholes. (sorry -- on a roll today)

[MilfMan865]

BP is not an arena in which I play, but I glance at the ads like most do. Ad said "Must Love Pets" but I couldn't discern if she were referring to herself or otherwise. Not the most enticing photo choice to me, but there's someone out there champing at the bit to get to that.

http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=18355903&image=18368334

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[KnoxVol]

BP is not an arena in which I play, but I glance at the ads like most do. Ad said "Must Love Pets" but I couldn't discern if she were referring to herself or otherwise. Not the most enticing photo choice to me, but there's someone out there champing at the bit to get to that.

http://knoxville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=18355903&image=18368334

Stay safe,

Milfman.Damn the ad is down. I bet she would be fun.

[Skboy]

Damn the ad is down. I bet she would be fun.This girl ran CL ads with her bf looking to swap couples or group sex. They must have broke up or he is pimping her out.

[Jg3786]

Damn the ad is down. I bet she would be fun.Candy's💣 special make you💦128166;128150;128139; - 20 (Central Ave pike).

[MilfMan865]

A distinction should be made between actual hobbying version cosign hobbying. A hobbyist actually visits a provider, reports on the experience (or the dream if you wish), indicates the pros and cons, and provides verifiable intel. We can determine if the experience is similar to our own, help us decide if we will visit or not, and we can ascertain the veracity of the claims based on what has been shared. You can spot these folks easily since they actually participate in the hobby and their speech and actions are commensurate with that.

Cosign hobbying is perpetuated by dudes who don't actually visit providers or may have said that they have visited a provider; however, no one can verify whether they have actually visited anyone. You will see a cosign hobbyist say "Yeah man, she is great", or "You're right, she's garbage", "True dude, I heard that she smells like carp", "Mercy mercy, looks who's posting again", and the like. Based on the established rules of this board, you can actually gain Senior Status by being a cosign hobbyist. Those dudes have never visited a provider, as in never admitted to it (read as not committed the alleged offense), and try to perpetuate a persona of actually being a hobbyist.

Don't get me wrong, cosigning is not bad when you've actually seen providers and would like to relay that your experience with that provider is consistent with the other monger's report.

Remember when you were much younger and you would hear certain lame dudes talk about getting pu,$$,y. ,. , even when you know that they had never even seen a real vagina since they popped out of one? Yeah, it's like that in a nutshell, those dudes got older but their truth factor didn't grow up in terms of talking about getting pu,$$,y (an excellent trait for certain professions).

Kudos to all the real hobbyists out there fulfulling the purpose of this forum (from the FAQ): The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

Part of that directive is being responsible and conscientious with helping keep providers safe. I don't intend to get under anyone's skin, but it's obvious if you look hard enough at the posts. Learn to recognize the distinction (the provider's already do) and be careful what you share with mere cosign hobbyists (even with Senior status) in PMs.

Happy hunting or be happy cosigning someone else's hunt .,.,

Milfman.

[Pizza Man]

I have been accessing this site by using the public wifi in fast food restaurants. Lately more and more restaurants are blocking access to this site. Anyone have a way to get around their blocks? Pm me if you don't want to post. Thanks.

[MadMax24]

I have been accessing this site by using the public wifi in fast food restaurants. Lately more and more restaurants are blocking access to this site. Anyone have a way to get around their blocks? Pm me if you don't want to post. Thanks.Use a VPN.

[MilfMan865]

Use a VPN.


I have been accessing this site by using the public wifi in fast food restaurants. Lately more and more restaurants are blocking access to this site. Anyone have a way to get around their blocks? Pm me if you don't want to post. Thanks.I always rely on Tor Browser.

-milfman.

[Bezee2012]

Got to love it when things go to someone's head. It is so funny.

[ZorroZ59]

Partially sarcastic, but that needs some tuning. I'm certain that a 2-post regular member was able to secure that visit though. You have to be one of the few who haven't made that initial visit with Sabrina though and look forward to your report.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.I have been having some issues with some of the seniors on here, not that I don't respect their opinions, or that I don't understand the security / not wanting to loose a good thing, but to constantly berate and distrust someone you don't know is just sort of asinine. I guess that you would consider myself to be a newbie or novice and from several of you that have bragged about you many conquest that may be true, if I believed half of what I have read. Let me give you a little of my history;.

1 I have been in the hobby since 1978.

2 I spent 20 years in the Navy and enjoyed many adventures in most countries and in all states except 3.

3 I moved to Knoxville in 1996.

4 I lost my wife to diabetics in 2009.

5 I being a newbie have reached out and had a wonderful interlude with many of the ladies on here including Sabrina and hope to again soon.

6 I have been a member of P411 for several years with a proven track record, including recently Jilly.

I could probably go on, but instead of constant ridicule, of people you don't even know how about reaching out as most senior adults should and try to find out some information about individuals and try to mentor.

All this being said that story of a lady making a meal first was sort of hard to swallow but hey I guess anything is possible.

Please feel free to remark and or PM me, I will do what I can tho help you out.

Zorroz59.

[Admin2]

I have been having some issues with some of the seniors on here, not that I don't respect their opinions, or that I don't understand the security / not wanting to loose a good thing, but to constantly berate and distrust someone you don't know is just sort of asinine. I guess that you would consider myself to be a newbie or novice and from several of you that have bragged about you many conquest that may be true, if I believed half of what I have read. Let me give you a little of my history;.

1 I have been in the hobby since 1978.

2 I spent 20 years in the Navy and enjoyed many adventures in most countries and in all states except 3.

3 I moved to Knoxville in 1996.

4 I lost my wife to diabetics in 2009.

5 I being a newbie have reached out and had a wonderful interlude with many of the ladies on here including Sabrina and hope to again soon.

6 I have been a member of P411 for several years with a proven track record, including recently Jilly.

I could probably go on, but instead of constant ridicule, of people you don't even know how about reaching out as most senior adults should and try to find out some information about individuals and try to mentor.

All this being said that story of a lady making a meal first was sort of hard to swallow but hey I guess anything is possible.

Please feel free to remark and or PM me, I will do what I can tho help you out.

Zorroz59.For the most part it's not versus. Some of the guys are assholes and like to haze, report that and I'll fucking hammer them.

For most of the guys it simply an issue of familiarity. Think of it as if you moved to a new city and in your neighborhood there's a corner bar at the intersection of two busy streets. At that bar there are guys who have known each other for years, and since there is a lot of traffic outside there are always new faces.

So at this bar, from time to time the guys who have been there forever might step outback and smoke a doobie. You like smoking weed and you kind of want some of the weed as well. If you ask somebody "hey, what's a guy got to do to get invited outside for a little weed?" You're getting nothing. However; if you go back to the bar a couple times, shoot the shit, become familiar, then one day when they go outback and they see you standing on a corner smoking your own doob they will probably invite you over to sit on a crate. After that, as long as you continue bringing some weed from time to time and you're not an asshole, you will most likely continue to be welcomed in the smoking lounge.

Guys that have been here for years have seen THOUSANDS of new names pop up. Shills, chicks pretending to be mongers to self review, assholes that can't be bothered to post unless they are asking for information about a chick that has a review two posts down. Just chill, contribute, be involved in the convo and don't be a dick and you'll become part of the community.

It's how it works.

A2.

[ZorroZ59]

For the most part it's not versus. Some of the guys are assholes and like to haze, report that and I'll fucking hammer them.

For most of the guys it simply an issue of familiarity. Think of it as if you moved to a new city and in your neighborhood there's a corner bar at the intersection of two busy streets. At that bar there are guys who have known each other for years, and since there is a lot of traffic outside there are always new faces.

So at this bar, from time to time the guys who have been there forever might step outback and smoke a doobie. You like smoking weed and you kind of want some of the weed as well. If you ask somebody "hey, what's a guy got to do to get invited outside for a little weed?" You're getting nothing. However; if you go back to the bar a couple times, shoot the shit, become familiar, then one day when they go outback and they see you standing on a corner smoking your own doob they will probably invite you over to sit on a crate. After that, as long as you continue bringing some weed from time to time and you're not an asshole, you will most likely continue to be welcomed in the smoking lounge.

Guys that have been here for years have seen THOUSANDS of new names pop up. Shills, chicks pretending to be mongers to self review, assholes that can't be bothered to post unless they are asking for information about a chick that has a review two posts down. Just chill, contribute, be involved in the convo and don't be a dick and you'll become part of the community.

It's how it works.

A2.In the past I read that someone was looking for Jilly, she is on P411, or is today.

https://www.preferred411.com/secure/index.cfm?fx=client_login

https://www.preferred411.com/Large5/228781_Web3.jpg?xid=6042

JILLYBEAN KNOXVILLE P228781.

KNOXVILLE, TENNESSEE (INDEPENDENT).

[RyanRivera]

I have been having some issues with some of the seniors on here, not that I don't respect their opinions, or that I don't understand the security / not wanting to loose a good thing, but to constantly berate and distrust someone you don't know is just sort of asinine. I guess that you would consider myself to be a newbie or novice and from several of you that have bragged about you many conquest that may be true, if I believed half of what I have read. Let me give you a little of my history;.

1 I have been in the hobby since 1978.

2 I spent 20 years in the Navy and enjoyed many adventures in most countries and in all states except 3.

3 I moved to Knoxville in 1996.

4 I lost my wife to diabetics in 2009.

5 I being a newbie have reached out and had a wonderful interlude with many of the ladies on here including Sabrina and hope to again soon.

6 I have been a member of P411 for several years with a proven track record, including recently Jilly.

I could probably go on, but instead of constant ridicule, of people you don't even know how about reaching out as most senior adults should and try to find out some information about individuals and try to mentor.

All this being said that story of a lady making a meal first was sort of hard to swallow but hey I guess anything is possible.

Please feel free to remark and or PM me, I will do what I can tho help you out.

Zorroz59.It was just stovetop, and she thought she had a sucker on the line. Candidly, I was a bit surprised I didn't wake up naked, bleeding, and in a ditch; but that risk is exciting to me. I enjoy playing the role of the gullible, interfacing with people less savory that the sweet little lady that cleans my house. I'm also fascinated by conmen. I think the different between the cons of a junkie, and the cons of politicians and leaders, are simply self-discipline and finesse. I'm also not much older than a number of providers. I won't go into detail, because I'll stick out like a sore thumb around here. While I fully respect how inner circles work, I would not mind being perpetually precluded from this place. I think the gentleman here seem fairly nice, and I don't mine a good hazing one bit. That being said, this is my way of exploring what's on the other side of the tracks. My presence here has less to do with Maslow's physiological needs, and more to due with social exploration.

[RyanRivera]

I always rely on Tor Browser.

-milfman.I think a lot of those steps are preference. You could even do more, if you wanted. However, I imagine at some point, so long as you're not the low hanging fruit, or have upset someone in particular, there is fairly low risk. I'll add some more tips, should anyone want to go to the extreme.

* Keep your burner off at your home / work. Only use it in transit somewhere.

* When using a browser, be it phone or laptop, make sure you are not logged in, or have not logged in, to any accounts that are identifiable (facebook, gmail, email, banking, etc). There is software sold to depts that can do something called browser fingerprinting. It likely won't be used as evidence. And I'm not even sure local boys have the budget for said system.

* Be mindful of phrases, or words, that are unique to you. Again, I highly doubt that would apply to this hobby, but often times when anonymity is paramount, one might run their sentences through a tool that will swap synonyms to hide their verbiage. There is software to identify people based on their vocabulary.

* Always park your car in ways where the tag it not facing outward. Ideal to park a reasonable distance from where you intend to meet, to you can survey the state of things. Doesn't hurt to show up early, and someone else recommended.

* If you feel something suspicious, do not immediately announce it, or call someone out. By being coy, you'll have more time to plan an exit, or reduce any collateral damage. Don't tell someone if you think they're a fraud. Just let them be.

* Being mildly patient, and thinking with the big head when deciding to try someone, will keep you out of trouble most of the time. Err on the side of safety. While there is a finite supply of advertising providers, there are hundreds, if not thousands, that would be willing to provide if it is presented to them in the right way. Subtlety is your friend.

Most of those aren't new, but two are things I haven't seen on here, and is not well known.

[RyanRivera]

Forgot one:

* When uploading pics, be sure to remove EXIF data first. Most major sites remove it by default, but vBulletin, the software used for this forum, does not remove it out of the box. Sometimes exif data will have gps coordinates of where the pic was taken, the name of the phone's user, etc. Again, I HIGHLY doubt you'll have issue by leaving it in around these parts, but if you feel you need to go above and beyond, that's another item.

Case in point, the one that made dinner a couple of weeks ago, or whenever that was? Here is a pic I took.

[MilfMan865]

I take most things in stride, but a minor pet peeve of mine is when a member has requested a PM on a matter, you are ready to exchange the information requested, you hit send, then get slapped in the face with ,.,., screeeech!!!! ,.,.,:



Errors
The following errors occurred with your submission

<MEMBER HANDLE> has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.
It only takes a moment to clear out some messages. I'm just as guilty of that negligence as everyone else.

Happy hunting,

Milfman.

[MilfMan865]

A thinning of the skin appears to be a consistent theme as of late, or maybe aging is making me have more of a "get off my lawn attitude". I'll just post in this thread for a while since interpreting the King's English may be a lost art. Nope, not being largely or mildly argumentative, my wrists are burning from all of the slaps.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

[Rrayr]

Just letting fellow mongers know that Sam did a cash and dash on me. It happened last Thursday night. Said she was going in her boyfriends moms place to grab a few things before we took off. Waited over an hour for her text to pick her up and got back "will be ready in a minute". Left after an hour and a half. Tried texting and calling the next day and surprise surprise no response. So everyone be careful out there.Not picking sides here. But somthing just don't jive.

Although flaky, she has had some very good reviews as of late.

I don't make it a habit fronting cash. BUT, On more than one occasion I've fronted cash for a room as she always came back.

I'm sure she has a diff take on the incident.

And with only 10 posts. Well. We'll see soon enough.

Rrayr.

[Bluford]

Upon reading the posts about Sam VERY carefully. You will find more stories about Sam VERY similar to Lucky's. Same shit, different flavor. One's cash and dash is another's I will make it up to you IF and WHEN I feel like it. Half of these girls that you boys talk about came from me. Actually originating from a very good friend. We miss you, buddy. He had enough sense not to bring them to the site. I brought this one. Oh well, chalk it up to a learning experience. Bringing a girl to the site is different from sharing information discriminantly.

Bluford.


Not picking sides here. But somthing just don't jive.

Although flaky, she has had some very good reviews as of late.

I don't make it a habit fronting cash. BUT, On more than one occasion I've fronted cash for a room as she always came back.

I'm sure she has a diff take on the incident.

And with only 10 posts. Well. We'll see soon enough.

Rrayr.

[JimsWang]

Upon reading the posts about Sam VERY carefully. You will find more stories about Sam VERY similar to Lucky's. Same shit, different flavor. One's cash and dash is another's I will make it up to you IF and WHEN I feel like it. Half of these girls that you boys talk about came from me. Actually originating from a very good friend. We miss you, buddy. He had enough sense not to bring them to the site. I brought this one. Oh well, chalk it up to a learning experience. Bringing a girl to the site is different from sharing information discriminantly.

Bluford.All hail Bluford and his giant cock and magnanimous spirit. Wtfe. (sorry a2 but it had to be said).

[MilfMan865]

http://knoxville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/gorgeous-blonde-bombshell-body-rubs/18668421
Massage was done on mattress on floor, pretty messy. If you are OCD this is not a place for you. Very attractive young lady and easy to talk to.She has a sensual look about her, very attractive as you said. My OCD tendencies are going haywire on this one. After dreaming of some of the well-known massage girls who exhibited a spa-like experience at the top of their game to rival the AMPs, a mattress on the floor (likely dirty sheets) and piles of trash adjacent makes my skin crawl.

Nice report.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

[Geewiz]

All hail Bluford and his giant cock and magnanimous spirit. Wtfe. (sorry a2 but it had to be said).I have no clue how he made senior status. He should run for president.

[EchoEcho]

All hail, Bluford - you magnificent bastard!


All hail Bluford and his giant cock and magnanimous spirit. Wtfe. (sorry a2 but it had to be said).

[YoungBlood1]

All hail, Bluford - you magnificent bastard!He's also a lawyer, clearly.

[Rrayr]

I have no clue how he made senior status. He should run for president.Me first! I have a ring kissing appointment with the great one.

[Bezee2012]

Ok seems that some from this forum have been no showing a lot just recently. Now no shows on either side are not good for the hobby. We as mongers hate when we get put off again and again for an hour or more so you would think that we would no try to be as petty and return the favor. I know at least three providers that have been no showed and when they text back they are told "you providers do it all the time". He is from this forum so I am asking who ever it is to please stop being petty and don't screw it up for the rest of us. I am sure if someone messed with your ability to make a living you would either have to raise your prices or go out of business. If you are being given the run around and having your appointment pushed back or no showed just post a review of said provider and move on to the next one. Two of the three providers have always been on time with me and if there was going to be a delay I have been given plenty of notice and sometimes a discount for the inconvenience. So who ever this is doing this there must be a reason these providers have done this.

Let's be adults and have fun the drama should be confined to the GF or spouse this hobby should drama free and pleasurable and on to the next one.

Bezee.

[AmanToy]

Ok seems that some from this forum have been no showing a lot just recently. Now no shows on either side are not good for the hobby. We as mongers hate when we get put off again and again for an hour or more so you would think that we would no try to be as petty and return the favor. I know at least three providers that have been no showed and when they text back they are told "you providers do it all the time". He is from this forum so I am asking who ever it is to please stop being petty and don't screw it up for the rest of us. I am sure if someone messed with your ability to make a living you would either have to raise your prices or go out of business. If you are being given the run around and having your appointment pushed back or no showed just post a review of said provider and move on to the next one. Two of the three providers have always been on time with me and if there was going to be a delay I have been given plenty of notice and sometimes a discount for the inconvenience. So who ever this is doing this there must be a reason these providers have done this.

Let's be adults and have fun the drama should be confined to the GF or spouse this hobby should drama free and pleasurable and on to the next one.

Bezee.I agree that we should all be more attentive to each others time. I talked about this a while ago. I was on the other end, being blown off repeatedly, then being told that we do it all the time. After all time is money!

[MilfMan865]

I don't understand how someone can be cashed-and-dashed since taking control of the situation and imploring a simple change in the process of when the donation is rendered prevents that. Along those lines, I cannot understand how someone could show up for a dream with a provider and not have condoms. My OCD tendencies dictate that I have to have confidence in the brand, fit, material, protection perks, and overall integrity of the condom (who knows if what she has has expired or has been tampered with).

It is in no way akin to "going to a fast food joint and being told they were out of hamburgers, only selling fries." You can still get full off of the fries, just not as appetizing as having the burgers and the fries would have been. I can't fathom being in a situation where I must rely on providers to furnish condoms. Some may say that she's not prepared for her session if she doesn't have any, but I would consider not being prepared for my session if I don't bring some. I'm interested in reasons/excuses for not having your own condoms. I consider bringing condoms just as important as making sure that I have the donation; showing up without either one is inexcusable.

Be smart,

Milfman.

[KnoxVol]

Upon reading the posts about Sam VERY carefully. You will find more stories about Sam VERY similar to Lucky's. Same shit, different flavor. One's cash and dash is another's I will make it up to you IF and WHEN I feel like it. Half of these girls that you boys talk about came from me. Actually originating from a very good friend. We miss you, buddy. He had enough sense not to bring them to the site. I brought this one. Oh well, chalk it up to a learning experience. Bringing a girl to the site is different from sharing information discriminantly.

Bluford.You brought Sam to this site? I've known her for over a decade I'm pretty sure I mentioned this site to her before she joined ill let you have this one though. Ill just rest my laurels on mya and by extension jordyn.

[KnoxVol]

Not picking sides here. But somthing just don't jive.

Although flaky, she has had some very good reviews as of late.

I don't make it a habit fronting cash. BUT, On more than one occasion I've fronted cash for a room as she always came back.

I'm sure she has a diff take on the incident.

And with only 10 posts. Well. We'll see soon enough.

Rrayr.Good reviews lately are meaningless. Sam has definitely ripped off and stolen from some guys.

[Bezee2012]

I don't understand how someone can be cashed-and-dashed since taking control of the situation and imploring a simple change in the process of when the donation is rendered prevents that. Along those lines, I cannot understand how someone could show up for a dream with a provider and not have condoms. My OCD tendencies dictate that I have to have confidence in the brand, fit, material, protection perks, and overall integrity of the condom (who knows if what she has has expired or has been tampered with).

It is in no way akin to "going to a fast food joint and being told they were out of hamburgers, only selling fries." You can still get full off of the fries, just not as appetizing as having the burgers and the fries would have been. I can't fathom being in a situation where I must rely on providers to furnish condoms. Some may say that she's not prepared for her session if she doesn't have any, but I would consider not being prepared for my session if I don't bring some. I'm interested in reasons/excuses for not having your own condoms. I consider bringing condoms just as important as making sure that I have the donation; showing up without either one is inexcusable.

Be smart,

Milfman.I agree 100% with you milfman. I always bring my own especially the first couple of times, once I get to know you and feel comfortable I may not. There are very few that I don't bring one all the time, Sugar Squirts is one Blount Honey was another.

[Rrayr]

I don't understand how someone can be cashed-and-dashed since taking control of the situation and imploring a simple change in the process of when the donation is rendered prevents that. Along those lines, I cannot understand how someone could show up for a dream with a provider and not have condoms. My OCD tendencies dictate that I have to have confidence in the brand, fit, material, protection perks, and overall integrity of the condom (who knows if what she has has expired or has been tampered with).

It is in no way akin to "going to a fast food joint and being told they were out of hamburgers, only selling fries." You can still get full off of the fries, just not as appetizing as having the burgers and the fries would have been. I can't fathom being in a situation where I must rely on providers to furnish condoms. Some may say that she's not prepared for her session if she doesn't have any, but I would consider not being prepared for my session if I don't bring some. I'm interested in reasons/excuses for not having your own condoms. I consider bringing condoms just as important as making sure that I have the donation; showing up without either one is inexcusable.

Be smart,

Milfman.Your totaly right. After trying many I prefer and found my own brand that works for me.

Reasons for not bringing.

1. You have a death wish.
2. Limited budget and your willing to gamble.
3. Don't care if she gets pregnant. (On that note, one well known is knocked up by a john).
4. You like the way it feels without and that over rides all of the above concerns.
5. Don't give damn.
6. Not the sharpest tool in the shed
I think someone called me self righteous once. Still scratching my head on that one.
Just my two cents.

Rrayr.

[LayenLow]

Your totaly right. After trying many I prefer and found my own brand that works for me.

Reasons for not bringing.

1. You have a death wish.
2. Limited budget and your willing to gamble.
3. Don't care if she gets pregnant. (On that note, one well known is knocked up by a john).
4. You like the way it feels without and that over rides all of the above concerns.
5. Don't give damn.
6. Not the sharpest tool in the shed
I think someone called me self righteous once. Still scratching my head on that one.
Just my two cents.

Rrayr.For me the reason is because I am married. And if I got caught with a wrapper, a receipt, much less one that wasn't open in my car, wallet, pocket then I might as well be giving her a tape of the act. I can get them on the way if they tell me and I normally ask and if I do I leave the extras behind for the provider. Occasionally there isn't one at the encounter and normally settle on BJ.

Now I'm mostly on SA and my SB keeps them in her purse for us, but I do know the downfalls but it's not just that I am lazy or not smart about the dangers.

[Bezee2012]

I agree 100% with you milfman. I always bring my own especially the first couple of times, once I get to know you and feel comfortable I may not. There are very few that I don't bring one all the time, Sugar Squirts is one Blount Honey was another.I am not saying I dream uncovered just that I know those two always had them on hand when I showed up.

[TNWodman]

Has any one on here been "black balled" by a provider? I was seeing this one on a regular basis and even helper her out a few time. She always made up for helping her out. I did make it clear to her that I would never put myself in a hard position helping her out and she said she understood that. I know she is friends with a few other working women. A few weeks ago she called asking for help and I couldn't do anything for her. She complained and told me I was lying which I wasn't, it was right before payday for me and I had just enough to make it till payday.

When payday came around, I tried contacting her with no answer. I tried the next day and still no answer. A few days after that I tried contacting one of her friends for a date and got " at % told me not to see you so don't ever call me again. " That was the first time I had ever tried contacting the second provider.

I had always been good to the first. Like I said, I had helped her out a few times in the past. Never asked for anything when I helped her but she did make it up to me with special treatments and even and overnight once. But I guess I made her mad because I did not help her out that one time so she told her "friends" not to see me. I have left the providers names out on purpose so they or I don't get any slack from this.

It is just a question. I probably won't see either provider again since they gave me an attitude, there are others out there. Thanks in advance.

[Rrayr]

Has any one on here been "black balled" by a provider? I was seeing this one on a regular basis and even helper her out a few time. She always made up for helping her out. I did make it clear to her that I would never put myself in a hard position helping her out and she said she understood that. I know she is friends with a few other working women. A few weeks ago she called asking for help and I couldn't do anything for her. She complained and told me I was lying which I wasn't, it was right before payday for me and I had just enough to make it till payday.

When payday came around, I tried contacting her with no answer. I tried the next day and still no answer. A few days after that I tried contacting one of her friends for a date and got " at % told me not to see you so don't ever call me again. " That was the first time I had ever tried contacting the second provider.

I had always been good to the first. Like I said, I had helped her out a few times in the past. Never asked for anything when I helped her but she did make it up to me with special treatments and even and overnight once. But I guess I made her mad because I did not help her out that one time so she told her "friends" not to see me. I have left the providers names out on purpose so they or I don't get any slack from this.

It is just a question. I probably won't see either provider again since they gave me an attitude, there are others out there. Thanks in advance.Ever notice how hard sometimes it is to get a hold of ANY provider on the weekends? Especially Sundays?

My phone blows up with (hey baby!) come Wed-Friday.
But crickets after that. Guess Sundays they rest and go to Church.

Never been blacked balled, but as far as giving the extra help, I've learned my hard lessons. I'm done being "Captain save a hoe"!
NEVER let them know the Payday!

Keep it hard!
Rrayr.

[Bucktrain]

Has any one on here been "black balled" by a provider? I was seeing this one on a regular basis and even helper her out a few time. She always made up for helping her out. I did make it clear to her that I would never put myself in a hard position helping her out and she said she understood that. I know she is friends with a few other working women. A few weeks ago she called asking for help and I couldn't do anything for her. She complained and told me I was lying which I wasn't, it was right before payday for me and I had just enough to make it till payday.

When payday came around, I tried contacting her with no answer. I tried the next day and still no answer. A few days after that I tried contacting one of her friends for a date and got " at % told me not to see you so don't ever call me again. " That was the first time I had ever tried contacting the second provider.

I had always been good to the first. Like I said, I had helped her out a few times in the past. Never asked for anything when I helped her but she did make it up to me with special treatments and even and overnight once. But I guess I made her mad because I did not help her out that one time so she told her "friends" not to see me. I have left the providers names out on purpose so they or I don't get any slack from this.

It is just a question. I probably won't see either provider again since they gave me an attitude, there are others out there. Thanks in advance.You have to realize, to most women, men are human doings not human beings. Once the doings stop you become useless to them.

[Vol Man6203]

Has any one on here been "black balled" by a provider? I was seeing this one on a regular basis and even helper her out a few time. She always made up for helping her out. I did make it clear to her that I would never put myself in a hard position helping her out and she said she understood that. I know she is friends with a few other working women. A few weeks ago she called asking for help and I couldn't do anything for her. She complained and told me I was lying which I wasn't, it was right before payday for me and I had just enough to make it till payday.

When payday came around, I tried contacting her with no answer. I tried the next day and still no answer. A few days after that I tried contacting one of her friends for a date and got " at % told me not to see you so don't ever call me again. " That was the first time I had ever tried contacting the second provider.

I had always been good to the first. Like I said, I had helped her out a few times in the past. Never asked for anything when I helped her but she did make it up to me with special treatments and even and overnight once. But I guess I made her mad because I did not help her out that one time so she told her "friends" not to see me. I have left the providers names out on purpose so they or I don't get any slack from this.

It is just a question. I probably won't see either provider again since they gave me an attitude, there are others out there. Thanks in advance.I've learned the hard way to never ever give them an advance! They always promise to make it up but it always turns into a disaster. Trust me, she will reach out to you soon enough for some $$ I've gotten good at ignoring their texts for help thru one calamity in their lives after another LOL. Somehow they survive it LOL.

[MilfMan865]

I had always been good to the first. Like I said, I had helped her out a few times in the past.

It is just a question. I probably won't see either provider again since they gave me an attitude, there are others out there. Thanks in advance.


Never been blacked balled, but as far as giving the extra help, I've learned my hard lessons. I'm done being "Captain save a hoe"!

Rrayr.


You have to realize, to most women, men are human doings not human beings. Once the doings stop you become useless to them.


I've learned the hard way to never ever give them an advance! They always promise to make it up but it always turns into a disaster. Trust me, she will reach out to you soon enough for some $$ I've gotten good at ignoring their texts for help thru one calamity in their lives after another LOL. Somehow they survive it LOL.We've all had a provider try to exert some power that they don't possess. I've never the blackball threat happen, but it seems like we are essentially "blackball proof" since there are so many other options available. It's still a "What have you done for me lately?" mentality. For every aspect that you think that you are being good to her, she's likely laughing that you think that you are being good to her. You have the power in the situation because you control how and where you spend your hard-earned money; she's just trying to hone her skills at separating you from your money. For example, we all know providers who live from one crisis to another, let's call her Henny Penny. Henny Penny will hit you up for an advance of 50 bucks here, 75 bucks there, to help her get through a crisis (could be a phone, a blown tire, other car trouble, needs a room, food, whatever), and promises to make it up in trade .,. eventually .,. and it's easy for you to wire it or add the funds to her greendot. Thing is, Henny Penny has hit up 10 to 20 of her monger contacts with the same emergency/sob story. Even if Henny Penny's sob story pulls at the heart strings of just a few, she can collect 300 to 400 roses on her acting skills alone .,. without providing any service. She doesn't remember all of the times that you have come through for her, likely laughing at you for it, but she remembers that one time that you stood your ground. Miraculously, her phone doesn't get cut off, her tire is fixed, that transmission is humming along, she has a room and could use some help, her belly is full and fridge is full, and all of those problems have been solved despite your help along with some left over to give to a deadbeat boyfriend or insignificant other.

She'd be stupid to attempt to blackball you since that hurts her future money plus the money of her not so smart cohorts. If anything, you should thank Henny Penny for doing you a favor by freeing you from future drama. When things are going well have you ever had a provider hit you up for a "freebie" session to make up for all of the help that you have provided in the past or to build up a credit for future help that you will provide? Of course not, like the mythical unicorn, she doesn't exist. Face it man, you're blackball resistant, some other "Captain Save a H" will step up to fill the void, and she's obviously allergic to logic.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

[Tnmm51]

We've all had a provider try to exert some power that they don't possess. I've never the blackball threat happen, but it seems like we are essentially "blackball proof" since there are so many other options available. It's still a "What have you done for me lately?" mentality. For every aspect that you think that you are being good to her, she's likely laughing that you think that you are being good to her. You have the power in the situation because you control how and where you spend your hard-earned money; she's just trying to hone her skills at separating you from your money. For example, we all know providers who live from one crisis to another, let's call her Henny Penny. Henny Penny will hit you up for an advance of 50 bucks here, 75 bucks there, to help her get through a crisis (could be a phone, a blown tire, other car trouble, needs a room, food, whatever), and promises to make it up in trade .,. eventually .,. and it's easy for you to wire it or add the funds to her greendot. Thing is, Henny Penny has hit up 10 to 20 of her monger contacts with the same emergency/sob story. Even if Henny Penny's sob story pulls at the heart strings of just a few, she can collect 300 to 400 roses on her acting skills alone .,. without providing any service. She doesn't remember all of the times that you have come through for her, likely laughing at you for it, but she remembers that one time that you stood your ground. Miraculously, her phone doesn't get cut off, her tire is fixed, that transmission is humming along, she has a room and could use some help, her belly is full and fridge is full, and all of those problems have been solved despite your help along with some left over to give to a deadbeat boyfriend or insignificant other.

She'd be stupid to attempt to blackball you since that hurts her future money plus the money of her not so smart cohorts. If anything, you should thank Henny Penny for doing you a favor by freeing you from future drama. When things are going well have you ever had a provider hit you up for a "freebie" session to make up for all of the help that you have provided in the past or to build up a credit for future help that you will provide? Of course not, like the mythical unicorn, she doesn't exist. Face it man, you're blackball resistant, some other "Captain Save a H" will step up to fill the void, and she's obviously allergic to logic.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.Before you fall for the story. Try this,heybaby,can I come over for a hr. Or two for free. I'm a little short on cash. See how many answer you back. That chit can go both ways.

[Sir Geoffrey]

We've all had a provider try to exert some power that they don't possess. I've never the blackball threat happen, but it seems like we are essentially "blackball proof" since there are so many other options available. It's still a "What have you done for me lately?" mentality. For every aspect that you think that you are being good to her, she's likely laughing that you think that you are being good to her. You have the power in the situation because you control how and where you spend your hard-earned money; she's just trying to hone her skills at separating you from your money. For example, we all know providers who live from one crisis to another, let's call her Henny Penny. Henny Penny will hit you up for an advance of 50 bucks here, 75 bucks there, to help her get through a crisis (could be a phone, a blown tire, other car trouble, needs a room, food, whatever), and promises to make it up in trade .,. eventually .,. and it's easy for you to wire it or add the funds to her greendot. Thing is, Henny Penny has hit up 10 to 20 of her monger contacts with the same emergency/sob story. Even if Henny Penny's sob story pulls at the heart strings of just a few, she can collect 300 to 400 roses on her acting skills alone .,. without providing any service. She doesn't remember all of the times that you have come through for her, likely laughing at you for it, but she remembers that one time that you stood your ground. Miraculously, her phone doesn't get cut off, her tire is fixed, that transmission is humming along, she has a room and could use some help, her belly is full and fridge is full, and all of those problems have been solved despite your help along with some left over to give to a deadbeat boyfriend or insignificant other.

She'd be stupid to attempt to blackball you since that hurts her future money plus the money of her not so smart cohorts. If anything, you should thank Henny Penny for doing you a favor by freeing you from future drama. When things are going well have you ever had a provider hit you up for a "freebie" session to make up for all of the help that you have provided in the past or to build up a credit for future help that you will provide? Of course not, like the mythical unicorn, she doesn't exist. Face it man, you're blackball resistant, some other "Captain Save a H" will step up to fill the void, and she's obviously allergic to logic.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.In 30 years of mongering in several cities, I have only met a tiny handful of providers who were honest and trustworthy enough to front money to. Most just look at it as a way to get money without working for it.

[Bluford]

Rrayr,

The smart girls have learned that being available Mon-Fri before 6 pm is best for them to become regular with the MOST consistent friends. Weekends are generally SLOW for them. Consider when the SO most likely to be around, Evenings and Weekends. Guys engaging on weekends are an entirely different group, and so are the girls.

Bluford.


Ever notice how hard sometimes it is to get a hold of ANY provider on the weekends? Especially Sundays?

My phone blows up with (hey baby!) come Wed-Friday.
But crickets after that. Guess Sundays they rest and go to Church.

Never been blacked balled, but as far as giving the extra help, I've learned my hard lessons. I'm done being "Captain save a hoe"!
NEVER let them know the Payday!

Keep it hard!
Rrayr.

[Bluford]

Boys,

Remember the golden rule, "He who hath the gold, makes the rules. " I will spell this out. When YOU have the gold, YOU make the rules. When you give the gold away, the other person makes the rules. Reminds me of a saying grandpappy Bluford said, "A fool and his money are soon parted. ".

Another problem that I see is the Captain Save a Hoe and White Knight bullshit mentality. This mentality leads to becoming a fool very quickly. Note, posting about girls fucking you over is GOOD. We need the intel.

This blackball bullshit is nothing to be concerned. Supply GREATLY outweighs demand. Patience is required. An issue is your lack of feeling connected to the supply. When you are well-connected. When a girl acts stupid, you say, "NEXT". LOL.

Bluford School Moral:

Time is Money, and Money is Time.

Bluford.


Has any one on here been "black balled" by a provider?

[Vol Man6203]

Before you fall for the story. Try this,heybaby,can I come over for a hr. Or two for free. I'm a little short on cash. See how many answer you back. That chit can go both ways.So I tried that tonight. Someone I'm seeing that I occasionally tip extra asked me to come by tonight. I had just seen her last night but she wanted more (cash that is, not cock). I texted back that I would love to come by again but I was broke currently. Surprise surprise I never heard back from her LOL. Something to remember when they are stroking your ego telling you how great you are.

[Tnmm51]

So I tried that tonight. Someone I'm seeing that I occasionally tip extra asked me to come by tonight. I had just seen her last night but she wanted more (cash that is, not cock). I texted back that I would love to come by again but I was broke currently. Surprise surprise I never heard back from her LOL. Something to remember when they are stroking your ego telling you how great you are.Looks like the tipping got you no where either. I guess she forget about that also. LOL.

[Lvglsvgs]

I've suggested the same thing in the past with a few gals that were a little text happy. Even recently. That usually shut 'them up.


So I tried that tonight. Someone I'm seeing that I occasionally tip extra asked me to come by tonight. I had just seen her last night but she wanted more (cash that is, not cock). I texted back that I would love to come by again but I was broke currently. Surprise surprise I never heard back from her LOL. Something to remember when they are stroking your ego telling you how great you are.

[Winston1984]

A strategy I enjoyed when I get a text asking me to stop by is the following reply. "When I saw you before we had a good time, but you refused to _ can you do it if I come see you now?" So whatever your thing is greek, BBBJ, costumes that she doesn't normally do you get the idea.

[AT1976]

Has any one on here been "black balled" by a provider? I was seeing this one on a regular basis and even helper her out a few time. She always made up for helping her out. I did make it clear to her that I would never put myself in a hard position helping her out and she said she understood that. I know she is friends with a few other working women. A few weeks ago she called asking for help and I couldn't do anything for her. She complained and told me I was lying which I wasn't, it was right before payday for me and I had just enough to make it till payday.

When payday came around, I tried contacting her with no answer. I tried the next day and still no answer. A few days after that I tried contacting one of her friends for a date and got " at % told me not to see you so don't ever call me again. " That was the first time I had ever tried contacting the second provider.

I had always been good to the first. Like I said, I had helped her out a few times in the past. Never asked for anything when I helped her but she did make it up to me with special treatments and even and overnight once. But I guess I made her mad because I did not help her out that one time so she told her "friends" not to see me. I have left the providers names out on purpose so they or I don't get any slack from this.

It is just a question. I probably won't see either provider again since they gave me an attitude, there are others out there. Thanks in advance.Multiple responses. Yes I have been, and a few days later same one was calling cause she was "short on rent".

[MilfMan865]

A trusted provided has requested that I inform the board that she is moving out of the Knoxville area on September 25, 2016. In order not to violate the ad policy, you can Google "Lovely Lydia GFE" to find current contact information. She noted that she would like to reconnect with established friends before she departs. Wish her well.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[YoungBlood1]

A trusted provided has requested that I inform the board that she is moving out of the Knoxville area on September 25, 2016. In order not to violate the ad policy, you can Google "Lovely Lydia GFE" to find current contact information. She noted that she would like to reconnect with established friends before she departs. Wish her well.

Stay safe,

Milfman.I've always wanted to visit with her but I don't meet her age requirements. She's had some pretty rave reviews on here in the past.

[LayenLow]

With all that is going on this week and multiple postings I want to remind everyone that this is suppose to be a fun endeavor. This is not about pushing the limits of the providers and forcing them to do things they are unwilling to do or forcing them to do it for way less then they want (that my friends would be considered rape and there is a special place in hell for rapist of any kind). Negotiation is one thing and we all agree negotiation is part of this. Even the hardest girl out there at one time had a heart and dreams and someone on here bragging about what they can force someone to do and how cheap they can get it for wouldn't last long in my company in real life. So they would be considered keyboard heroes they talk a big game behind a keyboard but shallow little men. I am the first to admit I have been taken by a sob story before and we certainly need to guard against it and being ripped off, but at the end of the day it's only money (money we were going to use anyway) and I can lay my head down at night and sleep because I wasn't an asshole to a woman even if she deserved it. The same people that give advice on how to pull in so many UTR's they have a different flavor every night and then the same week talk about talking down a SW on price and getting more than they agreed to the same guy that tries to do phone negotiations with some of the best providers we have in the area and then lectures everyone on treating a SW right so they won't loose his $5. 00 BJ source. The problem is for every provider that screws over a john that john then tries to screw over a provider and it is a viscous cycle. The best providers we have and the ones that stick around realize that this is a mutual beneficial exchange of money for casual sex and I can bet that their favorite clients understand that also. I am not white Knighting for anyone because know one knows my handle I am just sick of the games and have talked to many providers that feel the same way.

JMTC.

Layenlow.

While I agree with you about rape being a terrible crime I have to ask; how does one "force" a provider to "do it for way less than they want" because if force is involved why would there be payment? If a guy bargains hard the chick can always say no? If he doesn't respect the no, then it's rape obviously, I get that part. What I don't get is making a great deal analogous to rape.

A2

[Rrayr]

True story here.

I actually had a well known BP provider, 22 yrs old, low ball me!

No lie. Back in July. She texts me up wanting to see me. At first I tell her no bc I'm really short this week on cash. She persisted. We negotiated. I say "baby all I can swing today is 80. " She says "okay" at first. We agree. Then driving to location she texts back "hey babe can you do at least 100?" I think about it and say "hmmm, okay baby. 100 it is. Can't wait to see ya bc I miss ya!".

She then texts back, " that's okay sweetie, you can go ahead and just give me 80. ".

Okay! No argument from me. I'm scratching my head. That was a first!

But you know, it really is about how you treat them. How you respect them. How you Listen. The connection you have with them.

YMMV goes hand in hand with attitude and the connection.

Rrayr.

[LayenLow]

So John shows up at providers location after they discussed details over the phone and in her ad, once there the john wants to hold the "greenery" for his safety. They start the deed and he then goes over his amount of time or the agreed upon menu. John says if you don't a,b, or c then I am not paying you anything. Provider is worried or screwed up so she is forced to do a,b,c and now john wants d and even f. Then at the end of the deed john still holding the "greenery" stiffs the provider or pays less than the agreed upon donation because he is evil and he will never see her again. So forcing someone to do a sexual act by lying taking advantage of the situation or terror sounds a lot like rape to some and getting someone to do more than they agreed for cheaper sounds like a good bargain to others. Believe me I understand it is a fine line but I personally don't get next to it and most guys don't.

Again I don't want to come off like I am a holy saint, I am married and having sex with women for money. But it is consensual and mutually beneficial, Ill be in a different part of Hell.

Layinglow.

[Bluford]

Me thinks that LayenLow is FEMALE. Upon profiling the posts, I believe that LayenLow is FEMALE. Can anyone LEGIT verify that LayenLow is male?

Bluford.


So John shows up at providers location after they discussed details over the phone and in her ad, once there the john wants to hold the "greenery" for his safety. They start the deed and he then goes over his amount of time or the agreed upon menu. John says if you don't a,b, or c then I am not paying you anything. Provider is worried or screwed up so she is forced to do a,b,c and now john wants d and even f. Then at the end of the deed john still holding the "greenery" stiffs the provider or pays less than the agreed upon donation because he is evil and he will never see her again. So forcing someone to do a sexual act by lying taking advantage of the situation or terror sounds a lot like rape to some and getting someone to do more than they agreed for cheaper sounds like a good bargain to others. Believe me I understand it is a fine line but I personally don't get next to it and most guys don't.

Again I don't want to come off like I am a holy saint, I am married and having sex with women for money. But it is consensual and mutually beneficial, Ill be in a different part of Hell.

Layinglow.

[MilfMan865]

Cheyennemarie19 - One of the best experiences ever. Asks for 350 but worth every penny.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/bbdd75b8-bfa3-4dc5-a18a-fa7de84f6629
We all have different operationalized definitions of "worth every penny". Considering this is the Knoxville area proper and not a much bigger city, a provider'd have to get a 1099-MISC for some other type of work to be worth three fitty to five hunned to me (and it would likely involve a series of advanced college degrees and certifications she had earned).

If the gals on SA in this area were the likes of porn stars (particularly Gianna Nicole, Aidra Fox, Eva Lovia, Cassidy Banks, Sara Jay, Alexis Texas, or Carter Cruise) where marking a QV with one of them off of a bucket list is the goal, I could definitely understand. For all I know, I've been inadvertently meeting streetwalkers on SA so my mode of comparison for market range may be out of whack.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

[Jerry1235]

We all have different operationalized definitions of "worth every penny". Considering this is the Knoxville area proper and not a much bigger city, a provider'd have to get a 1099-MISC for some other type of work to be worth three fitty to five hunned to me (and it would likely involve a series of advanced college degrees and certifications she had earned).

If the gals on SA in this area were the likes of porn stars (particularly Gianna Nicole, Aidra Fox, Eva Lovia, Cassidy Banks, Sara Jay, Alexis Texas, or Carter Cruise) where marking a QV with one of them off of a bucket list is the goal, I could definitely understand. For all I know, I've been inadvertently meeting streetwalkers on SA so my mode of comparison for market range may be out of whack.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.Watch much porn, sir? Ha ha Just kidding. I agree with you though. My question is, when or how did the prices go up? I used to go over there a lot, I'm from Nashville, and the average price was about $150. Nowadays, it seems to be about $200. Funny thing is, even your unknown UTRs are asking for as much.

There was plenty of talent. They mostly asked between $120-$160,depending. That was a great deal. Today, they come out right out of the gate at $200. I even had one provider tell me," Yeah, we charge Nashville prices. " That was funny.

Just curious as to what happened, that's all.

Stay safe.

[LayenLow]

Me thinks that LayenLow is FEMALE. Upon profiling the posts, I believe that LayenLow is FEMALE. Can anyone LEGIT verify that LayenLow is male?

Bluford.URANIDIOT. But we can add this post to all the other post that you have been dead wrong about and your conspiracy theories. You have more useless post then a fence row intended to keep dead people inside a cemetery. Can anyone Legit actually verify that Bluford has ever said anything useful or given credible info? I know a lot of senior members and providers that can say the opposite. Crawl back under your rock, and cut the meds in half.

[Bluford]

Renee, be a good girl! Your recent post about yourself confirmed what we thought. An even earlier post about yourself had us raise our eyebrows wondering why you were using another alias AGAIN.


URANIDIOT. But we can add this post to all the other post that you have been dead wrong about and your conspiracy theories. You have more useless post then a fence row intended to keep dead people inside a cemetery. Can anyone Legit actually verify that Bluford has ever said anything useful or given credible info? I know a lot of senior members and providers that can say the opposite. Crawl back under your rock, and cut the meds in half.

[Skboy]

My advise to new regular / members.

Don't ask for info on providers earn your stripes first.

Don't attack other members just keep it to urself until the time is right, RTFF and learn.

To build cred, give honest good or bad reviews on unknown provider, not ones that have been around for years.

Bring utr girls to others members on the forum that's a big plus.

Post photos of providers, a great photo speaks a thousand words.

Ok rant over!

[Jerry1235]

My advise to new regular / members.

Don't ask for info on providers earn your stripes first.

Don't attack other members just keep it to urself until the time is right, RTFF and learn.

To build cred, give honest good or bad reviews on unknown provider, not ones that have been around for years.

Bring utr girls to others members on the forum that's a big plus.

Post photos of providers, a great photo speaks a thousand words.

Ok rant over!Don't mean to start an argument, despite the topic (s) on this threat, however, how does a new / regular member accomplish that? I've seen where a new member will post a review on an unknown provider only to be criticized and / or attacked for reviewing said unknown. Comments such as," she's unknown and he only has (insert number here) posts. How can we take him seriously?

As for the rest, I totally agree. Earn your stripes.

Again, don't mean to start an argument. Simply asking.

Stay safe.

[Skboy]

[QUOTE=Jerry1235;3080725]Don't mean to start an argument, despite the topic (s) on this threat, however, how does a new / regular member accomplish that? I've seen where a new member will post a review on an unknown provider only to be criticized and / or attacked for reviewing said unknown. Comments such as," she's unknown and he only has (insert number here) posts. How can we take him seriously?

As for the rest, I totally agree. Earn your stripes.

Again, don't mean to start an argument. Simply asking.

Your answer is there but you didn't see.

A photo of a provider is hard to beat as proving a point !

A good body shot or a mouth full of hard cock or cum speaks volumes.

Most providers love to pose for a little extra donation, never hurts to ask.

[Bluford]

Jerry,

You have asked a very pertinent point. An important part of the review that you address is the QUALITY of the intel. Just saying, she is a good fuck will not cut it. Here are a few bits of information highly valued.

Decscription of location. General area (not specific) SPECIFIC details of the area pertaining to SAFETY. Who was around, their general descriptions (related to safety) neighbors hanging around (nosy neighbors), where you had to park, safety of car, comfort level of leaving car, could you see the car from inside.

SAFETY FIRST. Answer questions someone would have regarding safety of location.

Hygiene information of woman, does she have track marks, drug use, smoker (smell left on your clothes if any, I. E. Perfume or smoke), Again related to SAFETY.

Most of the guys here are 60 plus. Think accordingly.

Available menu options that she made available to you and refused. How did she perform. Did she perform as she stated.

E. g. Had a woman tell me that she could take me down her throat. No, she could take me only in the back of her throat, big difference. Could she take a hard assfuck?, She said anal but she would allow only slide it in lightly, big difference.

Any follow up from her or you and response.

Review:

Specifics on SAFETY and Performance.

Bluford School Moral:

ACTIONABLE INTEL is required. In ONE MONTH, I saw EVERY woman on BP, who had not already been discussed here. This is how I became IN like Flynn here within ONE MONTH of joining. This is how I EARNED trust. I did not go around asking for actionable intel. I went out and delivered. This is how I became a squirrel in the innermost circle in this area within ONE month. Many thanks guys! We have some heavy hitters here. I know my place and what I bring to the table. Know yours and act accordingly. What you see discussed on the site is not even the tip of the iceberg.

This is how you earn your FIRST stripe.

Bluford.


Don't mean to start an argument, despite the topic (s) on this threat, however, how does a new / regular member accomplish that? I've seen where a new member will post a review on an unknown provider only to be criticized and / or attacked for reviewing said unknown. Comments such as," she's unknown and he only has (insert number here) posts. How can we take him seriously?

As for the rest, I totally agree. Earn your stripes.

Again, don't mean to start an argument. Simply asking.

Stay safe.

[LayenLow]

Renee, be a good girl! Your recent post about yourself confirmed what we thought. An even earlier post about yourself had us raise our eyebrows wondering why you were using another alias AGAIN.You are again on you wonderful vacation from reality. I have been with this board long enough to remember when your sorry azz came to it with this exact same delusional attitude that again is rearing it's ugly in-bread head. You are not accepted into any inner circle, you scammed a bunch of seniors into getting their personal e-mail address on the grounds of "actionable Intel" and continue to bother so many people that most people have blocked your post. You have been black balled my so many providers you should have felt like you've been walking WH for a few years. Re-read your post you warned of Kat and how everyone needed to not see her because of being followed what ever did you mean by that? Nothing you told her you would ruin her if she didn't cooperate with your low balling self. Same thing with Miss Hollywood and Southern Bell. They wouldn't put up with your bullshit so you ran them down. I know several providers that wouldn't ever agree to see you because your so obnoxious. I realize I am feeding the troll and that arguing with crazy only makes me look crazy, but enough is enough stop trying to take advantage of the girls and realize if they even agree to meet with you that should be worth whatever they are asking. And warning to guys he post CL adds and collects pictures of you if you respond. He gets you to PM him instead of actually writing a review or a warning in open forum in order to get your personal e-mails. Be careful.

[AmanToy]

True story here.

I actually had a well known BP provider, 22 yrs old, low ball me!

No lie. Back in July. She texts me up wanting to see me. At first I tell her no bc I'm really short this week on cash. She persisted. We negotiated. I say "baby all I can swing today is 80. " She says "okay" at first. We agree. Then driving to location she texts back "hey babe can you do at least 100?" I think about it and say "hmmm, okay baby. 100 it is. Can't wait to see ya bc I miss ya!".

She then texts back, " that's okay sweetie, you can go ahead and just give me 80. ".

Okay! No argument from me. I'm scratching my head. That was a first!

But you know, it really is about how you treat them. How you respect them. How you Listen. The connection you have with them.

YMMV goes hand in hand with attitude and the connection.

Rrayr.I've been burned before, I will not "lend" money any more. But I have two providers that will contact me when they really do need something. Room paid or Groceries and such. I make it a point to see them then. They understand that I may not be able to compensate in full at that moment but I will make it up as soon as I can. On occasion I will overcompensate to return the favor. It seems to work well with these two women. Sometimes we will just bullshit during the day even if I'm not going to see them. I wholeheartedly agree that you get out what you put in. My experiences with them are very good and I believe that it has got to do with the respect and the connection we have. In fact I won't even post about them. I do understand that there are truly cold, evil women out there, I've married 2 of them. LOL. I am getting better at spotting them. But then again I do love the crazy ones.

[BBtie72]

I have been fairly active in the hobby as of late. Its been a while since I got a lot of actionable intel so I based some of my visits off others reviews. My point is a lot of guys on here don't know what good pussy is. I understand YMMV and maybe I been spoiled with some promo stuff but Damn there are some pretty sad recommendations out there.

Good luck and happy hunting.

[MilfMan865]

I've never met Kelsey but I just wanted to say there's nothing wrong with making time to see both her and Sabrina. One shouldn't / doesn't have to stop seeing one provider just because another is around, don't smash one smash them both.Peculiar that there is a Team Sabrina and Team Kelsey emerging.

I was at the Vols -vs- Gators football game. In the first half, I saw instances where hoards of Vols' fans turned on their own team. The Boo Birds came out, proclamations of coach firings directed, and pleading to get in players with heart. When down 21 (Gators) - 0 (Vols), thousands of the 102,455+ in attendance made a mass exodus in disgust. The final result, was a victory for the Vols - 38, Gators - 28, and those who left missed out on an epic performance.

Back to the Team Kelsey and Team Sabrina and continuing the football analogy. Instead of "smashing them both", essentially rooting for both teams, one could easily choose "smashing neither of them" and just root for one of the other 126 teams (128 teams total) in the Division I Football (FBS) if only ephemeral loyalties exist. Kind of like watching a game in a sports bar when you couldn't give a rat's arse about which team wins.

I'm allergic to drama, so when faced with a situation like Team A or Team B (with little or no loyalties for either team), there are too many other viable options and choose to root for another team or just turn the channel. I don't care what you do with your time, your money, or the level of drama that you tolerate, but I would expect that you would.

Respecting the game while revering the journey .,.

milfman.

[ZorroZ59]

Peculiar that there is a Team Sabrina and Team Kelsey emerging.

I was at the Vols -vs- Gators football game. In the first half, I saw instances where hoards of Vols' fans turned on their own team. The Boo Birds came out, proclamations of coach firings directed, and pleading to get in players with heart. When down 21 (Gators) - 0 (Vols), thousands of the 102,455+ in attendance made a mass exodus in disgust. The final result, was a victory for the Vols - 38, Gators - 28, and those who left missed out on an epic performance.

Back to the Team Kelsey and Team Sabrina and continuing the football analogy. Instead of "smashing them both", essentially rooting for both teams, one could easily choose "smashing neither of them" and just root for one of the other 126 teams (128 teams total) in the Division I Football (FBS) if only ephemeral loyalties exist. Kind of like watching a game in a sports bar when you couldn't give a rat's arse about which team wins.

I'm allergic to drama, so when faced with a situation like Team A or Team B (with little or no loyalties for either team), there are too many other viable options and choose to root for another team or just turn the channel. I don't care what you do with your time, your money, or the level of drama that you tolerate, but I would expect that you would.

Respecting the game while revering the journey .,.

milfman.Most eloquently put Mr Milfman, I plan on rooting for them all, the more the merrier.

[The Load2]

Peculiar that there is a Team Sabrina and Team Kelsey emerging.

I was at the Vols -vs- Gators football game. In the first half, I saw instances where hoards of Vols' fans turned on their own team. The Boo Birds came out, proclamations of coach firings directed, and pleading to get in players with heart. When down 21 (Gators) - 0 (Vols), thousands of the 102,455+ in attendance made a mass exodus in disgust. The final result, was a victory for the Vols - 38, Gators - 28, and those who left missed out on an epic performance.

Back to the Team Kelsey and Team Sabrina and continuing the football analogy. Instead of "smashing them both", essentially rooting for both teams, one could easily choose "smashing neither of them" and just root for one of the other 126 teams (128 teams total) in the Division I Football (FBS) if only ephemeral loyalties exist. Kind of like watching a game in a sports bar when you couldn't give a rat's arse about which team wins.

I'm allergic to drama, so when faced with a situation like Team A or Team B (with little or no loyalties for either team), there are too many other viable options and choose to root for another team or just turn the channel. I don't care what you do with your time, your money, or the level of drama that you tolerate, but I would expect that you would.

Respecting the game while revering the journey .,.

milfman.Well that was a very pointless post if you don't want to smash either lady you don't have to. I'm not talking about "drama" I'm talking about fucking and I can smash both ladies w / o "rooting for both teams". The best part about this sport is I can set my DVR and "watch" at another time or date w / o anyone knowing when I'm watching. If you want to avoid the "drama" don't tell anyone which charity you donate to until another time that's what you call "respecting the game". Sounds to me like you just wanted to let us ALL know you went to the UT vs Florida game so congratulations and I was at the game too. Sec B row 15, some of the best seats in the house.

[MilfMan865]

I was at the game too.Nothing short of respect to you sir, ease up just a bit please. Recall the idiom, "OpiniOns are like asshOles, everybOdy's gOt One". Acknowledging that some asshOles can't help but reveal themselves at the most inopportune times (since where someone sat or shat at the game is purely tangential). Not sure how that simple (plain, easily understood, not complicated) game analogy could have been misinterpreted as anything short of agreeing with the initial assertion of "smashing them both" while adding other options. The beauty of opinions in essence even if it led to a visceral diatribe.

Staying away from urban colloquialism of "smashing" henceforth:
See One. See the Other. See Both. See Neither.
(for clarity since the initial agreement was misinterpreted: See Sabrina, See Kelsey, See Sabrina and Kelsey, See neither Sabrina or Kelsey)
Just the binary options with two variables. All elements of Personal Choice, Free Will, and maths.

Good luck to both ladies, the dudes white knighting, and everyone else trying to make their way throughout this madness by using the invaluable contributions of this forum.

Respecting the game while revering the journey.,.

Milfman.

[Skboy]

Both of these girls are favors of the month and one of them is already burned out on the game.

A few of the members / white knights are holding on a little to tight, Try to remember what Jackson set this site up for.

Hit it, review it good or bad pass along the info to the other members.

Keep each other safe!

[BBtie72]

Both of these girls are favors of the month and one of them is already burned out on the game.

A few of the members / white knights are holding on a little to tight, Try to remember what Jackson set this site up for.

Hit it, review it good or bad pass along the info to the other members.

Keep each other safe!Fucking funny.

[MilfMan865]

Both of these girls are favors of the month and one of them is already burned out on the game.

A few of the members / white knights are holding on a little to tight, Try to remember what Jackson set this site up for.

Hit it, review it good or bad pass along the info to the other members.

Keep each other safe!


Fucking funny.Precisely! Mic dropped.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

[Member #5245]

Nothing short of respect to you sir, ease up just a bit please. Recall the idiom, "OpiniOns are like asshOles, everybOdy's gOt One". Acknowledging that some asshOles can't help but reveal themselves at the most inopportune times (since where someone sat or shat at the game is purely tangential). Not sure how that simple (plain, easily understood, not complicated) game analogy could have been misinterpreted as anything short of agreeing with the initial assertion of "smashing them both" while adding other options. The beauty of opinions in essence even if it led to a visceral diatribe.

Staying away from urban colloquialism of "smashing" henceforth:
See One. See the Other. See Both. See Neither.
(for clarity since the initial agreement was misinterpreted: See Sabrina, See Kelsey, See Sabrina and Kelsey, See neither Sabrina or Kelsey)
Just the binary options with two variables. All elements of Personal Choice, Free Will, and maths.

Good luck to both ladies, the dudes white knighting, and everyone else trying to make their way throughout this madness by using the invaluable contributions of this forum.

Respecting the game while revering the journey.,.

Milfman.You guys were at that game! Made my week end. Too cool. Next big home game invite me. I'll bring Sabrina and we'll all get laid. LOL.

The Belly (I prefer the term Dark Knight BTW).

[AmanToy]

Both of these girls are favors of the month and one of them is already burned out on the game.

A few of the members / white knights are holding on a little to tight, Try to remember what Jackson set this site up for.

Hit it, review it good or bad pass along the info to the other members.

Keep each other safe!I've not partaken either of these fine women. I've jumped in after a bunch of good reviews before and been disappointed. Rates went up enthusiasm and service had gone down. I've also noticed that some of the glowing reviews are from mongers that have done this in the past only to turn around and bad mouth the very same providers later on. I've decided to let the flames burn down and partake at a later date if they are still around. If not there will another flavor next month.

[Love Ladies]

Both of these girls are favors of the month and one of them is already burned out on the game.

A few of the members / white knights are holding on a little to tight, Try to remember what Jackson set this site up for.

Hit it, review it good or bad pass along the info to the other members.

Keep each other safe!I have no team, just share what I know! Sabrina is still a great, great fuck! But when red flags, lies, BS, and handlers surface. I leave the picture. Nothing personal. Just business. No ill will toward Sabrina. But if I'm driving a Mercedes AMG and I discover a bomb under it, I ditch the damn car no matter how fine it may be.

Each to their own. Be safe!

[Bluford]

Renee,

You need to take your meds. You are showing your ignorance here. The Wed afternoon group no longer posts on here. The little ole mayor lady made the big boys go inside in 2012. We have MANY cliques here, meeting in the flesh and in online forums away from here. Can you say Facebook?

I have no need to run a scam to obtain personal, confidential information on the members here. You can ask admin how many posts that have been bounced because I was revealing confidential information about the WIFE here. LOL I was trying to let the wife know that her game was lame.

Bluford School Moral:

1) When you are fucking the same women, anonomity is NONEXISTENT.

2) Women talk.

By the same women, I mean the ones talked about on here. For every 1 girl talked about here, at least 500 TRUE UTRs are out there, waiting to be enjoyed. I got propositiioned by TWO women in TWO consecutive hours today. They asked ME for a date.

Bluford School Moral:

1) To get laid more than you can handle, you HAVE to be around women.

2) Women beget women.

I have asked ZERO members for email addresses. First, I do not enjoy texting. I am old school phone. To get in touch with me requires a phone with voice. When I ask for your number, give it, or be left with silence. I am indifferent. This fact can be verified by other members.

Renee, thank you for bringing up a point, although false it is.

MEN, I shall be clear. To communicate with ME requires talking by phone. I do not have time to exchange endless emails or texts.

Regarding Kat, more ignorance is being spouted on your part. Kat has never spoken to me. I told the trusted members here about the issues with Kat, and they are VERY serious. Regarding THE PLAGUE, Miss Hollywood, she is a straight up thief. Regarding Little Southern Belle SCAM, she is a BLACKMAILER.

This one is so funny that it speaks for itself. LOL.

"realize if they even agree to meet with you that should be worth whatever they are asking. ".

Regarding the pics request, more delusions on your part. I have a recent post HERE, which I advise, DO NOT GIVE OUT YOUR PICS. Fact check it, boys. LOL.

Enough of the funnies for today.

You are the ONLY member here, who is recently extolling the virtues of Renee in your posts, not one but TWO posts. Renee, go take your medicine, darling. You will feel better one day.

Bluford School Announcement:

I am considering giving a tech talk locally about communication security. Some of you commit grievious errors, which could be corrected quite easily and cheaply.

Bluford.

P.S. Another member was the one, who recommended the Bluford School name. We miss you, buddy.


You are again on you wonderful vacation from reality. I have been with this board long enough to remember when your sorry azz came to it with this exact same delusional attitude that again is rearing it's ugly in-bread head. You are not accepted into any inner circle, you scammed a bunch of seniors into getting their personal e-mail address on the grounds of "actionable Intel" and continue to bother so many people that most people have blocked your post. You have been black balled my so many providers you should have felt like you've been walking WH for a few years. Re-read your post you warned of Kat and how everyone needed to not see her because of being followed what ever did you mean by that? Nothing you told her you would ruin her if she didn't cooperate with your low balling self. Same thing with Miss Hollywood and Southern Bell. They wouldn't put up with your bullshit so you ran them down. I know several providers that wouldn't ever agree to see you because your so obnoxious. I realize I am feeding the troll and that arguing with crazy only makes me look crazy, but enough is enough stop trying to take advantage of the girls and realize if they even agree to meet with you that should be worth whatever they are asking. And warning to guys he post CL adds and collects pictures of you if you respond. He gets you to PM him instead of actually writing a review or a warning in open forum in order to get your personal e-mails. Be careful.

[Whitney31]

I just want to say I love you guys and can't stress enough about being safe and protecting yourselves. I'm staying strong. Thank you. Xoxo Whitney.

[Noelle]

I just want to say I love you guys and can't stress enough about being safe and protecting yourselves. I'm staying strong. Thank you. Xoxo Whitney.Yes ma'am indeed! <3 <3 <3 Glad you could pop in.

[MilfMan865]

Yes ma'am indeed! <3 <3 <3 Glad you could pop in.


I just want to say I love you guys and can't stress enough about being safe and protecting yourselves. I'm staying strong. Thank you. Xoxo Whitney.It's always a pleasure to see providers/advertisers who are friends of the board, current and former, pop-in and drop a Hello whether they have an active ad out or not. Just one favor .,., clearing some of your PM space would be greatly appreciated; some of us have been waiting far too looooonnnnngggg to reconnect with you. Continue the excellence ladies and best wishes to you all.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[Whitney31]

It's always a pleasure to see providers/advertisers who are friends of the board, current and former, pop-in and drop a Hello whether they have an active ad out or not. Just one favor .,., clearing some of your PM space would be greatly appreciated; some of us have been waiting far too looooonnnnngggg to reconnect with you. Continue the excellence ladies and best wishes to you all.

Stay safe,

Milfman.Thank you milkman for letting me know. Inbox is now clear. Xoxo whitney.

[Sugar Squirt]

Where have I been? I've missed all the action! LOL. All these new names!

[MilfMan865]

Are any of you also getting spammed in PMs? Statistically, I'm thinking that I'm not the only one and it could get progressively worse (i.e., if not deleting quick enough, it will cause my message count limit to be reached faster than anticipated). Nothing that I have reported to A2 yet since I can simply delete the messages while merely deleting them is manageable. The links are from members with seemingly cryptic usernames that have 0 total posts, use the subject "hi", with each message including a link to a webcam site.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[GreenHornet99]

Are any of you also getting spammed in PMs? Statistically, I'm thinking that I'm not the only one and it could get progressively worse (i.e., if not deleting quick enough, it will cause my message count limit to be reached faster than anticipated). Nothing that I have reported to A2 yet since I can simply delete the messages while merely deleting them is manageable. The links are from members with seemingly cryptic usernames that have 0 total posts, use the subject "hi", with each message including a link to a webcam site.

Stay safe,

Milfman.I just got one. It might be best to report them if we don't want to be spammed everyday.

It was a spamming crew out of russia, we have been working on it all day. I think we got it under control.

A2

[RyanRivera]

Are any of you also getting spammed in PMs? Statistically, I'm thinking that I'm not the only one and it could get progressively worse (i.e., if not deleting quick enough, it will cause my message count limit to be reached faster than anticipated). Nothing that I have reported to A2 yet since I can simply delete the messages while merely deleting them is manageable. The links are from members with seemingly cryptic usernames that have 0 total posts, use the subject "hi", with each message including a link to a webcam site.

Stay safe,

Milfman.Sounds like an affiliate marketer has built a script. If it persists, A2 can just ban the IPs associated, even if multiple.

[KnoxYankee]

I was hoping once my 4 infractions from 1-22-13 expired that I would be out of the purgatory of my comments being moderated before they get posted. I really hate the delay before they get posted. OK, I admit it this is me bitching and we all must play by the rules, so I have no choice but live with it. I just wanted to rant a little and this is the category to do it if I'm not mistaken.

I just hope one day I earn back the trust of the administrator and that my comments no longer have to be moderated before there posted.

Or, instead of doing this, you could have sent me a PM and handled it like an adult. I would have reviewed the account and seen whats up.

Now, and I admit I'm in a really bad fucking mood because I've been at my computer for 11 straight hours dealing with a massive spam attack from an outfit out of Russia, I'm thinking maybe you can kiss my ass.

Maybe

A2

[KnoxVol]

You arent helping her and she is already so low priced you couldn't possibly be trying to get a price cut and she lacks emotion and energy and is prob more interested in trying to find a 4 leaf clover in your yard than she is about making you relaxed and helping you get that relief you paid for.

She doesn't really read this board so I really appreciate you showing her. Asshole.

[Rrayr]

I was hoping once my 4 infractions from 1-22-13 expired that I would be out of the purgatory of my comments being moderated before they get posted. I really hate the delay before they get posted. OK, I admit it this is me bitching and we all must play by the rules, so I have no choice but live with it. I just wanted to rant a little and this is the category to do it if I'm not mistaken.

I just hope one day I earn back the trust of the administrator and that my comments no longer have to be moderated before there posted.

Or, instead of doing this, you could have sent me a PM and handled it like an adult. I would have reviewed the account and seen whats up.

Now, and I admit I'm in a really bad fucking mood because I've been at my computer for 11 straight hours dealing with a massive spam attack from an outfit out of Russia, I'm thinking maybe you can kiss my ass.

Maybe

A2Laughing out loud here.

Yeah, I received a couple of spams in my box.

Appreciate your due diligence A2!

[Member #5245]

I was hoping once my 4 infractions from 1-22-13 expired that I would be out of the purgatory of my comments being moderated before they get posted. I really hate the delay before they get posted. OK, I admit it this is me bitching and we all must play by the rules, so I have no choice but live with it. I just wanted to rant a little and this is the category to do it if I'm not mistaken.

I just hope one day I earn back the trust of the administrator and that my comments no longer have to be moderated before there posted.

Or, instead of doing this, you could have sent me a PM and handled it like an adult. I would have reviewed the account and seen whats up.

Now, and I admit I'm in a really bad fucking mood because I've been at my computer for 11 straight hours dealing with a massive spam attack from an outfit out of Russia, I'm thinking maybe you can kiss my ass.

Maybe

A2I, for one, would never question A2. The man is obviously overworked and smart enough to know who fucks up and what to do about it. Purgatory is better than removal. Just happy that I'm still alive on here. LOL.

The Belly.

Thanks Belly, normally no, not overworked, yesterday was a fucking bastard for sure.

A2

[Sabrinaknox]

Hey everyone, just wanted to warn some gentlemen and ladies out there on a new member on the board, t Scott, I have never met this man! The information he is giving out is not verifiable! Just be careful with him, especially ladies, because I have not verified him!! Anyways, if you are looking for good references hungbelly is always a great one and plenty of my other reviews!! Hope everyone is being safe and has a great rest of the week.

See, she's a big girl and perfectly able to take care of herself.

You're kinda hot honey, I like strong yet sweet women a lot.

A2

[Member #5245]

[Deleted by Admin]

The Belly, being careful with my words here.

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the content of the report was pointless, unproductive white knight drama. Please read the Forum FAQ and the Forum's Posting Guidelines for more information. Thank You!

Belly I am being careful with my words here as well. Don't ever call for ALL seniors to blow up my inbox again please. She's a big girl, she can take care of herself.

A2

[Skboy]

I knew when I saw the pics it would hit the fan.

Plus I knew which monger would be throwing the S-.

One more time / Whoa lighten Jim Dandy is on his way.

TO Me this site is for members to share info on having sex with providers.

Hit it review it good or bad pass along the info to keep other mongers safe Its not about the provider its about the monger.

If a provider sends or is posing for pics / videos most of the time they are going to end up here or on some other site. Its a givin.

Kinda getting over the drama on this provider in question.

Am sure some members don't agree With what am saying so just put me on your ignore list I know one member who has made mine.

Btw A2 thanks for letting me play in your sandbox I know you have a hard job cleaning out the ====

[T Scott]

Hey everyone, just wanted to warn some gentlemen and ladies out there on a new member on the board, t Scott, I have never met this man! The information he is giving out is not verifiable! Just be careful with him, especially ladies, because I have not verified him!! Anyways, if you are looking for good references hungbelly is always a great one and plenty of my other reviews!! Hope everyone is being safe and has a great rest of the week.

See, she's a big girl and perfectly able to take care of herself.

You're kinda hot honey, I like strong yet sweet women a lot.

A2Then the question becomes how did I get nude pics with face? (No one else has these?) How did I know you laughed about trying to get mongers to pose with their c**ks in you? Mongers, was it you? How did I know a monger you bragged about controlling was at Disney until the 17th? Shall I go on? Mongers, if this describes you then you know the truth. Sabrina, you took a lot of money from me, Scotty, and Chuck. Don't feed this tale. You were the one who asked me to see you long after your massage and SA adventures. It was you who said USASG guys were cheap and you needed a great review. You never said a word about not posting your face shots? A2, I believe this is the right section to defend myself. And I've tried to do it kindly.

To the others who have messaged me saying how she'd ripped you off, step up like I have. I've always believe mongers had the right to know the true story. I'm okay with not being a white knight. Someone is lying and some of you know what I just described relates to you! End of story.

Yeah this is the right section but you aren't defending yourself, I think the word you're looking for is burying yourself. I don't think you know just how obsessive this posts reveals you to be.

You can't post about her anymore. You obviously have an agenda beyond getting pussy. Anything else you post about her I will delete.

A2

[MilfMan865]

This is not my sandbox and I don't treat it as such. Along those lines, I have a hard time understanding how someone can become ButtHurt over what someone claims to do with a provider or discussions they've had with a provider. The prodding question on repeat is "You mad bro?" as a monger gets so wrapped up in a single provider that he appears obsessed. I often wonder why he doesn't simply visit another provider and work out all of his aggression. Providers don't treat us all the same or charge us the same even for the same service, we treat some providers better than others, and that is the essence of YMMV.

I often have to step back and think about why I'm here:



What is the purpose of this Forum?
The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
If what you are contributing doesn't fit that objective, it's just noise and pointless. For the non-moderated, you've used decent judgment to a great degree to ensure that but. ,. , for the moderated, A2 helps you out a bit.

Providers as Slot Machines not Investment Portfolios:

Over time, you'll have to view some of these providers as slot machines and your activities as merely gambling (not an investment portfolio as some may like to think). You put your money in, pull the slot, then hope that it comes up with a combination that is favorable for you. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but overall. You hope that you win enough to make it worth your while. As a general rule, recall "the house always wins".

With the ButtHurt going on, I imagine some dudes huddled around a single slot machine. .,., all day and all night as if it's only calling his name. ,. , thinking that that next slot pull will be that hit of a lifetime, but he is forced to keep putting loads of money into it just for that chance. Those dudes see people winning all around them, but it doesn't matter, that single machine calling his name is the only one that matters. If you're a fan of the Twilight Zone, see "The Fever" (Season 1, Episode 17) (use "the twilight zone the fever" in your favorite video sharing site).

This hobby is supposed to be fun and exciting while sharing our exploits, not antagonistic and vitriolic while attacking each other. Some of the most excited I get is knowing that pu-c is coming to me or I'm on my way to get some pu-c: either way, it involves pu-c. For the ButtHurt among us, you may have let limerence get in the way of enjoying your mongering journey. I encourage the ButtHurt to step back and think about why you're mongering in the first place and whether you're truly built for this hobby which can be brutal at times. Answer this to yourself: when you run across a provider who made your toes curl/eyes roll back in your head thus you experienced one of the most erotic encounters ever, (1) are you excited to share the info with your fellow mongers with whatever criticism may arise as you look for the next NEW find or (2) are you inclined to try to keep her to yourself and defend, at all costs, the honor of an adult business woman who can fight her own battles? One of those predisposes you to a hobby of ButtHurt and Fight Club violations.

I'm thankful that I'm allowed to play in this sandbox which has saved me a lot of time, money, and headaches. I'm about to go get some pu-c, and I hope that you are too.

Respecting the game while revering the journey. ,.

Milfman.

[KnoxTNman]

So I received a rather strange PM yesterday where a new member asked me to share my Seeking Arrangement login and password. He offered to pay me some money if I do that. I don't even know how to explain how stupid and weird it was but was wondering if anyone else received it.

Unfortunately I deleted the message without making a note of the member name.

[MilfMan865]

I'm as guilty of this as the next guy. <snip>I will try very hard to avoid the temptation of being lazy and only providing a link to the profile of any ladies I speak about from now on. I will try and demand more of myself and include the lady's screen name as well to assist all my fellow mongers in searching for information on these ladies. I hope all my fellow mongers will try and do the same. Thanks.Short version: Including a screenshot, link on an archive site, or some other identifier will help someone looking through posts figure out who/what you're referencing.

Verbose version: It's been mentioned before, but a general reminder is is warranted. I merely skim BP or CL and don't look at the Streetwalker scene at all. As someone who will RTFF regularly, it pains me to no end to go back six months and see something like that "That Maryville / Oak Ridge / South Knoxville / wherever gal", or a commonly shared name such as "Brandy, Tiffany, Lexie, any gemstone name, any luxury vehicle name, etc. " as the subject without any historical reference even with the original poster.

Including a screenshot of the ad, a pic from the public ad, a link to the ad on one of the ad archive sites, or something that would allow someone performing a search to figure out exactly who you're talking about. Google helps tremendously for common tech tasks (for example, "Creating a screenshot in Windows 10"). I try to make posts as self-contained as possible so that you don't have to go through a derivation of posts to figure out what I'm referencing. I fall short of that at times for lack of due diligence, but I will commit to doing better as well.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

[Jim7767]

So I received a rather strange PM yesterday where a new member asked me to share my Seeking Arrangement login and password. He offered to pay me some money if I do that. I don't even know how to explain how stupid and weird it was but was wondering if anyone else received it.

Unfortunately I deleted the message without making a note of the member name.You know that has to be stupid to even ask. If he can't get up the $ to get listed, he should not be looking. Maybe he was banned and is trying another way to get it. Play it straigt. We are here to get info, but also to help each other.

[The Load2]

Grab them by the Pussy.

[RazorXX]

http://keyetv.com/news/local/shocking-billboard-targets-austins-immigrant-population

Gave me a chuckle and also made me realize there probably is a very good SB market in the border states.

[Rrayr]

I just realized hundreds of thousands of men if not millions will not get to have sex tonight or in the coming weeks because of our next president.

Thank God for Whor*s!

Rrayr.

[MilfMan865]

Saw a post on USA Classifieds this week, and I am wondering if this is the same Whitney that used to be in the Pigeon Forge area. I knew there were some LEO issues this summer, but is she back in the game? Anyone have any info?


I saw an ad on BP last week as well. Has anyone seen her since her return? I heard she may be working with LEO.The ad text is as follows:
-,-,-,-,
Available - 40.

Posted: Wednesday, November 16,2016 9:57 AM.

Your favorite girl is back. Missed you my friends. I'm only seeing friends I have seen before. No exceptions. 8654541834 XOXO Whitney.

Poster's age: 40.

Location: Knoxville.
-,-,-,-,

Rumors, particularly those regarding folks working with LEO, can be precarious elements,. ,. , especially when someone is trying to achieve a sense of normalcy following a period of abnormality. Whitney is diligently working to get her life back on track. I have seen Whitney in East Tennessee (didn't acknowledge her publicly for mutual privacy reasons), but you may have actually seen her as well working at her regular job. ,. , evidence that she's trying to adhere to the stipulations established for her.

If we decipher the ad, she mentions that she wishes to reconnect with old friends and not interested in making new friends at this time. If friends have seen her before, it sounds like they are encouraged to contact her to catch up and reconnect (granted the friend can be associated with meeting her before in some way). If a person is trying to connect as a new friend, she requests that she not be contacted.

Many of us make a concerted effort to help keep these girls safe in general. Aside from carefully sharing information with those who have the ladies' best interest at heart, part of that involves respecting her wishes concerning when and how she's contacted. If she mentions no exceptions, respecting her request and wishing her well should be the modus operandi.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[MilfMan865]

I've never indulged in a QV or a 30 minute session because I like to embrace my precious time with a provider and I don't like to feel rushed in any way. I've seen providers who I thought would never offer a QV advertise them. ,. , I'm in shock for a bit. It may be a pre-Black Friday special, indicative of a slow period, or a sign of something less appealing. If QVs are in your wheelhouse or if you want to see a provider who doesn't regularly offer them, this may be "the most wonderful time of the year" for you.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[Jg3786]

I've never indulged in a QV or a 30 minute session because I like to embrace my time and don't like to feel rushed in any way. I've seen providers who I thought would never offer a QV advertise them. ,. , I'm in shock for a bit. It may be a pre-Black Friday situation or indicative of a slow period. If a QV is how you roll, this may be the season for that.

Stay safe,

Milfman.I know that I just saw that surprised me.

[The Load2]

I've never indulged in a QV or a 30 minute session because I like to embrace my precious time with a provider and I don't like to feel rushed in any way. I've seen providers who I thought would never offer a QV advertise them. ,. , I'm in shock for a bit. It may be a pre-Black Friday special, indicative of a slow period, or a sign of something less appealing. If QVs are in your wheelhouse or if you want to see a provider who doesn't regularly offer them, this may be "the most wonderful time of the year" for you.

Stay safe,

Milfman.It's not even Thanksgiving yet and I've already heard the "I need money for Christmas" close.

[TheOneThing]

Sorry if I caused any issues for anyone on this site. I've watched BP for over a year without seeing anyone. I picked a couple of ladies to see and just asked a question based on what I heard from one of them. I was thinking of trying to see Whitney but it sounds like she will not be seeing newbies and I can certainly understand.

I guess I've got a lot to learn if I'm going to dabble in this lifestyle.

Again I'm sorry if I offended anyone. That was not my intend.


The ad text is as follows:
-,-,-,-,
Available - 40.

Posted: Wednesday, November 16,2016 9:57 AM.

Your favorite girl is back. Missed you my friends. I'm only seeing friends I have seen before. No exceptions. 8654541834 XOXO Whitney.

Poster's age: 40.

Location: Knoxville.
-,-,-,-,

Rumors, particularly those regarding folks working with LEO, can be precarious elements,. ,. , especially when someone is trying to achieve a sense of normalcy following a period of abnormality. Whitney is diligently working to get her life back on track. I have seen Whitney in East Tennessee (didn't acknowledge her publicly for mutual privacy reasons), but you may have actually seen her as well working at her regular job. ,. , evidence that she's trying to adhere to the stipulations established for her.

If we decipher the ad, she mentions that she wishes to reconnect with old friends and not interested in making new friends at this time. If friends have seen her before, it sounds like they are encouraged to contact her to catch up and reconnect (granted the friend can be associated with meeting her before in some way). If a person is trying to connect as a new friend, she requests that she not be contacted.

Many of us make a concerted effort to help keep these girls safe in general. Aside from carefully sharing information with those who have the ladies' best interest at heart, part of that involves respecting her wishes concerning when and how she's contacted. If she mentions no exceptions, respecting her request and wishing her well should be the modus operandi.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[ChaosTn]

Sorry if I caused any issues for anyone on this site. I've watched BP for over a year without seeing anyone. I picked a couple of ladies to see and just asked a question based on what I heard from one of them. I was thinking of trying to see Whitney but it sounds like she will not be seeing newbies and I can certainly understand.

I guess I've got a lot to learn if I'm going to dabble in this lifestyle.

Again I'm sorry if I offended anyone. That was not my intend.You are not "out of line" to post a question about a provider. But, if the source of your info about a provider is another provider. Don't believe it is true. They are very competitive about building a client list. Most will spread false rumors in order to "hurt" the rep of their competition.

Hell, some of them would make more money running a "dirty' election campaign for a politician.

[MilfMan865]

The increasing number of providers receiving public ridicule from getting arrested, the rumors swirling, and the different criteria mongers use to determine whether or not they will see the ladies again is intriguing.

It seems like once a lady is on LEO's radar, she is immediately blacklisted by many mongers. Those mongers are likely the least vocal, but their actions indicate that they will never see her again. Whether she is rumored to be working with LEO or not is irrelevant, an arrest is enough is disqualifying. Other mongers wait a bit to determine if she is safe and proceed based on their comfort and risk-tolerance levels. They may be hesitant and skittish, but will still visit the provider once a warm and fuzzy feeling is obtained.

I can't fault any monger for proceeding with caution based on the level of risk with which he's comfortable. The provider's embarrassment of being publicly chastised by LEO pales in comparison to the level of anxiety once their family, friends, and co-workers get wind of the offense. Rumors begin to run amuck. Regardless of whether a monger chooses to blacklist her or proceed like she never had LEO issues, the provider still deserves the dignity and respect to deal with those new legal, family, and other issues in private regardless of how public the arrest was. Numerous providers, some who have ads on this site and had a long track record of stellar service, have met unfortunate circumstances so considering whether or not to see them is not merely hypothetical any more. I've heard about providers who were solely dependent on providing have resorted to regular jobs to supplement or dropping the bottom out of their prices just to make ends meet. This dilemma isn't going to simply disappear, so providers and mongers alike have important choices to make going forward.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[John HandCock]

The increasing number of providers receiving public ridicule from getting arrested, the rumors swirling, and the different criteria mongers use to determine whether or not they will see the ladies again is intriguing.

It seems like once a lady is on LEO's radar, she is immediately blacklisted by many mongers. Those mongers are likely the least vocal, but their actions indicate that they will never see her again. Whether she is rumored to be working with LEO or not is irrelevant, an arrest is enough is disqualifying. Other mongers wait a bit to determine if she is safe and proceed based on their comfort and risk-tolerance levels. They may be hesitant and skittish, but will still visit the provider once a warm and fuzzy feeling is obtained.

I can't fault any monger for proceeding with caution based on the level of risk with which he's comfortable. The provider's embarrassment of being publicly chastised by LEO pales in comparison to the level of anxiety once their family, friends, and co-workers get wind of the offense. Rumors begin to run amuck. Regardless of whether a monger chooses to blacklist her or proceed like she never had LEO issues, the provider still deserves the dignity and respect to deal with those new legal, family, and other issues in private regardless of how public the arrest was. Numerous providers, some who have ads on this site and had a long track record of stellar service, have met unfortunate circumstances so considering whether or not to see them is not merely hypothetical any more. I've heard about providers who were solely dependent on providing have resorted to regular jobs to supplement or dropping the bottom out of their prices just to make ends meet. This dilemma isn't going to simply disappear, so providers and mongers alike have important choices to make going forward.

Stay safe,

Milfman.Provoders busted for prostitution are a very small danger to mongers that's only Interested in that service. Try to bust mongers that way is to slow and not cost efficient. Now if t hat provider has a side business going or has contacts into that business and you are a participant in said side business that's where your you should be worried. Lets face it, escorts for the most are a wealth of info to LEO who has used that knowledge from the dawn of time. The mongers who like to get involved in the escorts personal life have the most to fear as to the monger who adhere to the old code of just a business transaction.

[MilfMan865]

It's not even Thanksgiving yet and I've already heard the "I need money for Christmas" close.I hear you man, you're spot on. It's going to get worse by the day. The requests to simply front them money for a session or loan it to them are next. Usually that money will have to be considered a donation because they won't make good on that. Rarely. They will even ask for money when they already owe you money. No shame.

stay safe,
Milfman.

[Rrayr]

I hear you man, you're spot on. It's going to get worse by the day. The requests to simply front them money for a session or loan it to them are next. Usually that money will have to be considered a donation because they won't make good on that. Rarely. They will even ask for money when they already owe you money. No shame.

stay safe,
Milfman.And, don't let them know the PayDay!

I made that mistake on a couple. Geez whaaa.

Keeping it hard.

Rrayr.

[MasterOf]

Anybody taken the time to reverse the posted numbers on social media? Seems like a TONif Hispanic men are losing as providers according to the Facebook.

[MilfMan865]

Just a rant, nothing more, so please ignore it if you're pressed for time. I'm sure that ladies have a long list for dudes, but they can handle getting the word out on that. Ladies,. ,. , please,. ,. , it goes without saying, but please make a concerted effort to wash your arse. This isn't as much of an issue with escorts (although it's still prevalent), but many of the hygiene-challenged ladies that I have met on SA. Few aspects kill the mood for me faster than having some playtime with a luxurious spinner well positioned in doggy style, the moments get heated, and the unadulterated smell of pure arse funk hits me in the face. It's happening more and more, but they often comment that they just got off work. I don't like the smell of dried up urine coupled with some musty lady armpits either. Ladies ,.,., if you haven't checked the odor status of your vagina, don't leave it up to the guy to be hit with an odoriferous surprise. Any arse funk aroma is amplified when the action gets going. Also, if you have blank space in your mouth where teeth should be or have rotten teeth still in your mouth, aesthetics truly matter and it is highly likely that those rotten teeth are causing dragon breath. As a result, you shouldn't be offended when a guy turns his head as you try to kiss him since you shouldn't have put him in that difficult position. If he opts out of DATY with you, just leave it at that, don't make that an indictment on his lack of courtesy (since you likely hooked him up with a BBBJ). Screw GFE if your house isn't in order, handle your hygiene responsibilities before focusing on your core business.

Simple soap and water ladies, but hitting those hot spots with a baby wipe would be appreciated. Of course women have different odors about their nether regions (some of their natural odor could be a bit musty, but she is still clean), but arse funk is unacceptable. If you expect a guy to hold his breath long enough to get through a arse funk-filled session, you're asking too much. Olympic swimmers can't hold their breath that long.

I dream that I make a concerted effort to stick with what's on her menu, always be respectful and gentlemanly, compensate her for her time and tip or gift well, have lady health and beauty products available when they visit me, and be obsessively clean and put together because I'm requesting cleanliness from her. I don't care how drop-dead gorgeous she is, funk of any kind is not attractive: I just want her to wash her dayum arse.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

[JustAGuy3]

As always, you speak the truth and do it in the most upbeat, respectful, and hilarious way possible. That may be the most true and funny thing I will read all day.

I make it a point to show up shower fresh, teeth brushed and deodorant on before every meeting. Noone enjoys the waft of B. O. Or poor hygeine. Well said MM!

Stay safe everyone!

JAG.

[Mjmtax]

Just a rant, nothing more, so please ignore it if you're pressed for time. I'm sure that ladies have a long list for dudes, but they can handle getting the word out on that. Ladies,. ,. , please,. ,. , it goes without saying, but please make a concerted effort to wash your arse. This isn't as much of an issue with escorts (although it's still prevalent), but many of the hygiene-challenged ladies that I have met on SA. Few aspects kill the mood for me faster than having some playtime with a luxurious spinner well positioned in doggy style, the moments get heated, and the unadulterated smell of pure arse funk hits me in the face. It's happening more and more, but they often comment that they just got off work. I don't like the smell of dried up urine coupled with some musty lady armpits either. Ladies ,.,., if you haven't checked the odor status of your vagina, don't leave it up to the guy to be hit with an odoriferous surprise. Any arse funk aroma is amplified when the action gets going. Also, if you have blank space in your mouth where teeth should be or have rotten teeth still in your mouth, aesthetics truly matter and it is highly likely that those rotten teeth are causing dragon breath. As a result, you shouldn't be offended when a guy turns his head as you try to kiss him since you shouldn't have put him in that difficult position. If he opts out of DATY with you, just leave it at that, don't make that an indictment on his lack of courtesy (since you likely hooked him up with a BBBJ). Screw GFE if your house isn't in order, handle your hygiene responsibilities before focusing on your core business.

Simple soap and water ladies, but hitting those hot spots with a baby wipe would be appreciated. Of course women have different odors about their nether regions (some of their natural odor could be a bit musty, but she is still clean), but arse funk is unacceptable. If you expect a guy to hold his breath long enough to get through a arse funk-filled session, you're asking too much. Olympic swimmers can't hold their breath that long.

I dream that I make a concerted effort to stick with what's on her menu, always be respectful and gentlemanly, compensate her for her time and tip or gift well, have lady health and beauty products available when they visit me, and be obsessively clean and put together because I'm requesting cleanliness from her. I don't care how drop-dead gorgeous she is, funk of any kind is not attractive: I just want her to wash her dayum arse.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.I couldn't agree more. I love to 69, and that is an absolute mood killer for me. In fact, I had been seeing a dancer from Mouse's Ear OTC for a while, and we recently did a 3-some with another dancer. I had been with the first lady several times, and always enjoyed our time together, but for some reason, on this night she just wasn't clean. She was sitting on my face while dancer #2 was going to work on me with a nice BBBJ, and the arse odor hit me hard. I had to tactfully disengage that position and avoid getting too close the rest of the time. It actually turned me off so badly, I won't see her again. It really should go without saying, but.

[Rrayr]

Just a rant, nothing more, so please ignore it if you're pressed for time. I'm sure that ladies have a long list for dudes, but they can handle getting the word out on that. Ladies,. ,. , please,. ,. , it goes without saying, but please make a concerted effort to wash your arse. This isn't as much of an issue with escorts (although it's still prevalent), but many of the hygiene-challenged ladies that I have met on SA. Few aspects kill the mood for me faster than having some playtime with a luxurious spinner well positioned in doggy style, the moments get heated, and the unadulterated smell of pure arse funk hits me in the face. It's happening more and more, but they often comment that they just got off work. I don't like the smell of dried up urine coupled with some musty lady armpits either...Happy Hunting,

Milfman.Ha! Well put. After agreed schedule, I always signal to the provider "about' to jump in the shower real quick then heading over" goes a long way with them. Most times they say give them an extra 30 minutes to shower before I head over. Doesn't necessarily guarantee a shower fresh experience.

Honestly, with some, not all I've learned to breath through my mouth with the K9 position.

Keep it hard.

Rrayr.

[Callmecrazy]

I have been informed of some warnings that relate to my post from earlier today. So with that being said if you decide to make contact with them it's at your own risk.

[MilfMan865]

"Remember: we all get what we tolerate. So stop tolerating excuses within yourself, limiting beliefs of the past, or half-assed or fearful states. ".

Tony Robbins.

I wanted to thank all of you who share verifiable and pertinent intelligence for helping make 2016 a little safer for my dreams. Personally, you have helped save me a lot of time, reduced the headache, decreased my risk, and helped me conserve those hard earned entertainment dollars.

On the eve of 2017, my tolerance for providers behaving badly will be much shorter. I will keep in mind that "we all get what we tolerate". This list is only a few key points (not discussing ways to prevent the transgressions), but if a provider does ANY of the following she will be written off for no future visits. ,. ,.

* does a no call, no show or is horrendously late without respect or regard to how precious time is.

* steals

* performs a cash and dash.

* gets a loan without service, then doesn't repay it at the time that she says she would. It's never advisable to loan providers any money without service, regardless how "close" you think you are or how small the amount, but write that off and consider it her severance.

* questionable or downright offensive hygiene. Everyone sweats and that's indicative of some sensual enjoyment, but neglecting to properly bathe is inexcusable. Oral hygiene is included in this.

* cuts a session short, is dishonest about boundaries (like claims to offer MSOG during the time frame, but doesn't), or just performs in a lackluster fashion indicative of not being committed to providing stellar service.

Accidents like a provider being late can and do happen, but the sheer number of providers and SA options are too many to tolerate anything less that what is desirable.

In return, I'll make a commitment to be obsessive about proper hygiene, genuinely respectful of her time and boundaries, communicate effectively concerning the session if necessary, and abide by her financial expectations.

Best wishes for 2017.

Milfman.

[Ga Dogfan]

"Remember: we all get what we tolerate. So stop tolerating excuses within yourself, limiting beliefs of the past, or half-assed or fearful states. ".

Tony Robbins.

I wanted to thank all of you who share verifiable and pertinent intelligence for helping make 2016 a little safer for my dreams. Personally, you have helped save me a lot of time, reduced the headache, decreased my risk, and helped me conserve those hard earned entertainment dollars.

On the eve of 2017, my tolerance for providers behaving badly will be much shorter. I will keep in mind that "we all get what we tolerate". This list is only a few key points (not discussing ways to prevent the transgressions), but if a provider does ANY of the following she will be written off for no future visits. ,. ,.

* does a no call, no show or is horrendously late without respect or regard to how precious time is.

* steals

* performs a cash and dash.

* gets a loan without service, then doesn't repay it at the time that she says she would. It's never advisable to loan providers any money without service, regardless how "close" you think you are or how small the amount, but write that off and consider it her severance.

* questionable or downright offensive hygiene. Everyone sweats and that's indicative of some sensual enjoyment, but neglecting to properly bathe is inexcusable. Oral hygiene is included in this.

* cuts a session short, is dishonest about boundaries (like claims to offer MSOG during the time frame, but doesn't), or just performs in a lackluster fashion indicative of not being committed to providing stellar service.

Accidents like a provider being late can and do happen, but the sheer number of providers and SA options are too many to tolerate anything less that what is desirable.

In return, I'll make a commitment to be obsessive about proper hygiene, genuinely respectful of her time and boundaries, communicate effectively concerning the session if necessary, and abide by her financial expectations.

Best wishes for 2017.

Milfman.Very well said Sir! Of course I have floated money to one lady I know and trust well and have never regretted it. Wouldn't go to the point to date one of the ladies but I have become close friends her and have a lot of respect for her. But there aren't many others I would ever consider loaning money to.

[MutualRespect]

I don't understand how someone can be cashed-and-dashed since taking control of the situation and imploring a simple change in the process of when the donation is rendered prevents that.

Milfman.MM. Could you or someone else who knows, expand on what the simple change is? I've looked around on the site and must be overlooking it.

[MilfMan865]

MM. Could you or someone else who knows, expand on what the simple change is? I've looked around on the site and must be overlooking it.BigJim addressed one method of cash and dash proofing: hold on to your funds until after the dream.


That's an expensive lesson my friend, however most of if not all of us have had similar situations in our pasts.

2) never give the money up front. Once again a good provider will not take the money up front.

BigJim.Be safe,

Milfman.

[MutualRespect]

BigJim addressed one method of cash and dash proofing: hold on to your funds until after the dream.

Be safe,

Milfman.Thanks BigJim & Milfman.

Sorry guys, this is probably obvious to you but I'm not 'getting' this most basic idea. How do you keep the donation and still leave it out?

It seems that when most Ads or provider specific websites describe a standard date, they say to leave the donation out.

Now that I'm a little wiser, I don't want to trust as easily. Trying to figure out a way to make this work for both parties in a mutually respectful way.

[Bendme]

Thanks BigJim & Milfman.

Sorry guys, this is probably obvious to you but I'm not 'getting' this most basic idea. How do you keep the donation and still leave it out?

.Most good providers never ask for the cash, even when finished. When you're done, politely hand them the money or lay it down in plain sight. You're paying for services rendered, not in advance.

Paying up front is never a good idea and if they demand it, turn around and leave, even though the little guy is begging you to stay. I know, easy to say, but hard to do. I still get burned now and then, even after more than forty years playing this game.

[MutualRespect]

Most good providers never ask for the cash, even when finished. When you're done, politely hand them the money or lay it down in plain sight. You're paying for services rendered, not in advance.

Paying up front is never a good idea and if they demand it, turn around and leave, even though the little guy is begging you to stay. I know, easy to say, but hard to do. I still get burned now and then, even after more than forty years playing this game.Thanks Bendme.

When first meeting a provider (no personal history with her) do any of you guys show them you have the cash to make them comfortable or is it just better to not worry about it and leave it hidden until the dream is over?

[Bendme]

Thanks Bendme.

When first meeting a provider (no personal history with her) do any of you guys show them you have the cash to make them comfortable or is it just better to not worry about it and leave it hidden until the dream is over?Try this:

Buy a prepaid card in the amount stated, plus a generous tip.

Show up at the agreed upon time, not a minute early or late.

Slide the card under the door or place it in plain sight.

Politely knock on the door.

Promptly leave, so as not to show any disrespect, and ensuring the provider remains comfortable.

Report back with the details.

[MutualRespect]

Try this:

Buy a prepaid...
...ensuring the provider remains comfortable.

Report back with the details.Translation: Don't worry about it.

Ok bend ok. Ya got me LOL.

[MilfMan865]

I got contacted around 2 am From a Kentucky-based provider who was spending some time in Chattanooga visiting family. Over the last few days she had an ad up in Chattanooga, in BP's dating section, and she commented that there were a few instances where she wasn't being compensated for her time.

After some silence. ,. , I figured that it was a crap shoot after reading her ad. I was surprised that she didn't realize that by posting in the BP Dating section, Women for Men, for which guys are used to getting cheap thrills for no compensation whatsoever, she was opening herself up to that. By posting in that section, she was being misleading to the guys who were used to showing up with nothing more than a rubber (if that much) and no funds in his pockets. I can't blame the guys for that.

Be smart,

Milfman.

[HardKnox]

I got contacted around 2 am From a Kentucky-based provider who was spending some time in Chattanooga visiting family. Over the last few days she had an ad up in Chattanooga, in BP's dating section, and she commented that there were a few instances where she wasn't being compensated for her time.

After some silence. ,. , I figured that it was a crap shoot after reading her ad. I was surprised that she didn't realize that by posting in the BP Dating section, Women for Men, for which guys are used to getting cheap thrills for no compensation whatsoever, she was opening herself up to that. By posting in that section, she was being misleading to the guys who were used to showing up with nothing more than a rubber (if that much) and no funds in his pockets. I can't blame the guys for that.

Be smart,

Milfman.With the demise of the escort section on BP I think a lot of the providers have turned to the dating section as an alternative. Many of the posts there are identical to the posts that were previously on the escort section. I wonder how long it will be until that section is censored as well. If a provider wants to post an ad on the dating section that is not clear about her status she might consider explaning things once contact is made or better yet have a website and direct that individual to her site which will explain things.

HK.

[CrazyEddie]

You can now have sex with Mags.

http://www.escortdirectory.com/escort/Miranda%20Mynx-46428/

[GreenHornet99]

You can now have sex with Mags.

http://www.escortdirectory.com/escort/Miranda%20Mynx-46428/I do see a resemblance.

[ChaosTn]

I do see a resemblance.I saw this post and. I had a horrific image of Mags forcing a man to "butt-chug" moonshine. Before she mounts him with her homemade strap-on.

[MilfMan865]

To anyone contacting females, mentioning this site for which she is totally unaware, saying that dudes are talking about them, and then trying to solicit additional favors from bringing forth that information. ,. ,. , no respect for you "Bro" (and I use that term loosely). It runs rampant with respect to SA. Major Fight Club / G-code violations. You know who you.

To prove their point, females even screenshot the communication, don't redact the phone numbers or messaging usernames, provide a dude's SA profile name in some instances, and similar nonsense.

Violating Fight Club/G-code is behavior unbecoming of a gentleman.

To everyone else, stay safe.

Always,

Milfman.

[ChaosTn]

To anyone contacting females, mentioning this site for which she is totally unaware, saying that dudes are talking about them, and then trying to solicit additional favors from bringing forth that information. ,. ,. , no respect for you "Bro" (and I use that term loosely). It runs rampant with respect to SA. Major Fight Club / G-code violations. You know who you.

To prove their point, females even screenshot the communication, don't redact the phone numbers or messaging usernames, provide a dude's SA profile name in some instances, and similar nonsense.

Violating Fight Club/G-code is behavior unbecoming of a gentleman.

To everyone else, stay safe.

Always,

Milfman.I was the last person sending a reply to this thread. But, my post was a sarcastic "gutter humor" reply about having sex with the character "Mags" from the tv show "Justified". So, my question to you is who on the forum pissed you off?

[Ga Dogfan]

To anyone contacting females, mentioning this site for which she is totally unaware, saying that dudes are talking about them, and then trying to solicit additional favors from bringing forth that information. ,. ,. , no respect for you "Bro" (and I use that term loosely). It runs rampant with respect to SA. Major Fight Club / G-code violations. You know who you.

To prove their point, females even screenshot the communication, don't redact the phone numbers or messaging usernames, provide a dude's SA profile name in some instances, and similar nonsense.

Violating Fight Club/G-code is behavior unbecoming of a gentleman.

To everyone else, stay safe.

Always,

Milfman.Hopefully it wasn't ine of us, the long time seniors! Most know the code but plenty of new seniors and newbs who don't understand the code and respect lile you, myself, Bez, Sk, Dr, Nick and a good few others. Hate to hear someone did this to another monger. Honestly I've gotten to where I am very selective with who I share with and help on here.

[FitDaddy3]

Hey man you showed up a few days ago, sent out 3 form letters to 3 different forums, asked for info on 3 chick's, say you dreamed with Carla but gave no link to her and offered no info. You want pm's to give that out. You need to adjust your attitude and act like the Newby that you are. You get nothing else from me tIll you offer up at least twice as much info as you have taken in the short time you have been here. Honestly, I have serious concerns about what you are doing here.

[Skboy]

Too All the Barking Lap Dogs On This Site!

Bow Bow Wow Every Dog Has His Day!

This Site Was made by a monger for mongers to trade info on Having sex with women.

Some members need to learn and remember that.

[BallSwinger]

Too All the Barking Lap Dogs On This Site!

Bow Bow Wow Every Dog Has His Day!

This Site Was made by a monger for mongers to trade info on Having sex with women.

Some members need to learn and remember that.***** all you want about unnamed folks, but it's all ignored unless you don't want to be a "barking lap dog" and name names. You are what you complain about.

BS.

[MilfMan865]

***** all you want about unnamed folks, but it's all ignored unless you don't want to be a "barking lap dog" and name names. You are what you complain about.
BS.Most of the time, one doesn't know specifically to name names. Many blokes read these boards, but don't contribute to the open forum. Some have a tendency to contact the females in question and sing like songbirds related to the contents. Yes, the ladies could stumble upon it and read the content themselves; however, we're talking about Fight Club rules here. If the actual offenders were known, they would be contacted directly through PM (and save others the trouble of reading the PSA). This is just one way to let the "lap dogs" know that their indiscretions didn't go unnoticed.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[StonesRoller69]

Most of the time, one doesn't know specifically to name names. Many blokes read these boards, but don't contribute to the open forum. Some have a tendency to contact the females in question and sing like songbirds related to the contents. Yes, the ladies could stumble upon it and read the content themselves; however, we're talking about Fight Club rules here. If the actual offenders were known, they would be contacted directly through PM (and save others the trouble of reading the PSA). This is just one way to let the "lap dogs" know that their indiscretions didn't go unnoticed.

Stay safe,

Milfman.I don't get it. But I'm certainly open to guidance / suggestions from anyone, especially those that have been here a lot longer than me. If the First Rule is we don't talk about it, how are we supposed to refer each other to providers? I want details. Because the only way I know to do it is to give the provider a heads up that trusted senior members of the club will be contacting them. Why else would the providers go along? Do we expect (or want) them to just accept everyone that contacts them because without some info that's what they would be doing (I. E. How is the provider going to know that someone contacting them is someone I recommended?) I suppose we could all agree to use a code word or something when we call that the provider has been told in advance but I don't see a big difference in that because that would still be evidence of an organized effort whether we name our "club" or not. It seems to me any provider with at least half a brain is going to want to have some idea of who will be contacting them and why they should be trusted.

What am I missing? Again, provide DETAILS of a better way to do it and I will follow. By the way, I contacted Admin asking for guidance on this a couple of weeks ago and the response I got was less useful than tits on a bull (I will forward it to anyone who wants to see it).

[MilfMan865]

If the First Rule is we don't talk about it, how are we supposed to refer each other to providers? What am I missing?
What is the purpose of this Forum?

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

The Rules of Fight Club. (only focusing on the first two rules).

1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.

2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.

You may be thinking too much, but don't let anyone discourage you from posting information that you want to share. Anecdotal evidence is plentiful of superb resources that are misused and it ruins it for the folks using it as intended (for example, think traffic rules and the gun laws in the States). When I read the purpose. ,. , I see the "between men". If you prefer talking about or directing someone to FIGHT CLUB who isn't part of FIGHT CLUB, then that's your interpretation and more than your right to do so. No prescription exists, so the balance that works for you may not work for another. You can clean a toilet with your toothbrush, but I wouldn't recommend it if you plan on putting said toothbrush back in your mouth.

The framework is in place within the rules of FIGHT CLUB.

Consider the nuances in these examples:

Example 1: Guy 1 - I have a buddy who would really like to meet you. I'll have him contact you. Female 1 - cool, thanks. I look forward to hearing from him.

Example 2: Female 2 - I heard that there is a board where guys talk about what they do with women. What do you think about that? Guy 2 - no way. that's crazy and they're crazy.

Example 3: (any guy posts pictures of a female or says something about her) Guy 3 - Hey Female 3. I saw where a guy showed pics of you getting spit roasted and you said that you don't do stuff like that. Female 3 - That couldn't have been me. Where did you see that nonsense? Guy 3 - FIGHT CLUB, here are some screenshots.

Happy hunting,

Milfman.

[Ga Dogfan]

What is the purpose of this Forum?

The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

The Rules of Fight Club. (only focusing on the first two rules).

1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.

2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.

You may be thinking too much, but don't let anyone discourage you from posting information that you want to share. Anecdotal evidence is plentiful of superb resources that are misused and it ruins it for the folks using it as intended (for example, think traffic rules and the gun laws in the States). When I read the purpose. ,. , I see the "between men". If you prefer talking about or directing someone to FIGHT CLUB who isn't part of FIGHT CLUB, then that's your interpretation and more than your right to do so. No prescription exists, so the balance that works for you may not work for another. You can clean a toilet with your toothbrush, but I wouldn't recommend it if you plan on putting said toothbrush back in your mouth.

The framework is in place within the rules of FIGHT CLUB.

Consider the nuances in these examples:

Example 1: Guy 1 - I have a buddy who would really like to meet you. I'll have him contact you. Female 1 - cool, thanks. I look forward to hearing from him.

Example 2: Female 2 - I heard that there is a board where guys talk about what they do with women. What do you think about that? Guy 2 - no way. that's crazy and they're crazy.

Example 3: (any guy posts pictures of a female or says something about her) Guy 3 - Hey Female 3. I saw where a guy showed pics of you getting spit roasted and you said that you don't do stuff like that. Female 3 - That couldn't have been me. Where did you see that nonsense? Guy 3 - FIGHT CLUB, here are some screenshots.

Happy hunting,

Milfman.Milfman these new seniors and regulars don't seem to get it. To many white knights and guys who don't understand the main purpose of this board is for mongers to get reviews and an idea on who's safe. Honestly I won't share info with or acknowledge most newbies without some serious stripes earned. How? Through reports on known ladies, validation from other well known seniors they may have shared info with and / or acknowledgement from a well known trusted lady on the board. Yes I'm ok with a few of the ladies knowing about the board. The ones who used to post on here and earned their place. Ladies who haven't started drama over reviews or posts. Honestly a lot of the BP and younger ladies get to emotional and worked up if something unflattering is reported. Not to mention the white knighting by guys who think they'll get something from it.

My two cents is contribute to the board, earn your stripes and in time maybe some of us long time seniors will trust you. It's ok to direct ladies the classified posting board but no need to direct them here. If in time they find it fine but otherwise don't help. Don't be a rat or white knoght! If you help a trusted senior with a utr or lady have them acknowledge it. If you see a well known lady who does post here maybe let her validate you and don't be a parrot. Have real reviews, not yeah seen so and so also and she is great. Because it doesn't matter how many posts you have, If those are your reviews I still won't help you. I'm here to protect my ass, keep the hobby safe and fun for others by posting info and reviews and keeping out of uncles reach. Yes I will keep a lady I like safe too but do it without exposing the source.

Just my two cents.

Dawg.

[StonesRoller69]

Example 1: Guy 1 - I have a buddy who would really like to meet you. I'll have him contact you. Female 1 - cool, thanks. I look forward to hearing from him.

Example 2: Female 2 - I heard that there is a board where guys talk about what they do with women. What do you think about that? Guy 2 - no way. that's crazy and they're crazy.

Example 3: (any guy posts pictures of a female or says something about her) Guy 3 - Hey Female 3. I saw where a guy showed pics of you getting spit roasted and you said that you don't do stuff like that. Female 3 - That couldn't have been me. Where did you see that nonsense? Guy 3 - FIGHT CLUB, here are some screenshots.

Happy hunting,

Milfman.I understand the last two examples. But Example 1 does not provide the necessary details on how to accomplish this without mentioning the club or providing further information. Think through the possibilities of the whole scenario. For example, I recently provided digits to several senior members here. Do you expect that each time I should contact the provider and tell her, "My buddy MilfMan is going to contact you. " "My buddy JoeSchmough is going to contact you. " Repeat ad nauseum -- not very practical. And then that also exposes you by screen name should the provider already know about the club or find out about it and now they can go on here and read your posts AND match that up to the real you. (I sure prefer no one uses my screen name here with any providers.) Also, I think many providers are going to want to know what some of these "nicknames" mean or where they come from. And since I don't know any of you, I feel more comfortable explaining why I am referring you as trusted rather than pretend you are my buddy. In your Example 1, I would expect and hope that Female 1 would respond more like this: Female 1 - Cool, thanks. Now how will I know it is your buddy who is contacting me?

The devil is in the details and you are not providing enough for me to understand how to best make this work.

I welcome any other opinions on this.

[StonesRoller69]

I understand the last two examples. But Example 1 does not provide the necessary details on how to accomplish this without mentioning the club or providing further information. Think through the possibilities of the whole scenario. For example, I recently provided digits to several senior members here. Do you expect that each time I should contact the provider and tell her, "My buddy MilfMan is going to contact you. " "My buddy JoeSchmough is going to contact you. " Repeat ad nauseum -- not very practical. And then that also exposes you by screen name should the provider already know about the club or find out about it and now they can go on here and read your posts AND match that up to the real you. (I sure prefer no one uses my screen name here with any providers.) Also, I think many providers are going to want to know what some of these "nicknames" mean or where they come from. And since I don't know any of you, I feel more comfortable explaining why I am referring you as trusted rather than pretend you are my buddy. In your Example 1, I would expect and hope that Female 1 would respond more like this: Female 1 - Cool, thanks. Now how will I know it is your buddy who is contacting me?

The devil is in the details and you are not providing enough for me to understand how to best make this work.

I welcome any other opinions on this.I want to add a little more on my thought process as I just explained to someone in a PM. When I have mentioned to a provider that the people I am referring are from an organization, I don't tell her the name of it or anything more than that it is an organization of guys who see providers and build some credibility with each other by sharing some information about their experiences with providers. Also, I think it is beneficial for providers to know about the organization (the basics, not details) because it has a two-fold effect -- it makes them realize if they go the extra mile they will get referred (that benefits us, too) and make more money, and if they do anything negative the word will be spread and it will hurt their business (obvious benefit to us as well).

[MilfMan865]

I wish it would stop on BP and SA. The use of Snapchat features, outside of Snapchat, is getting ridiculous. I'm tired of seeing videos or pics of women looking like a puppy, crazed bunny, kitten, or other nonsense when I'm shopping for some companionship. I can't bypass those ads or profiles fast enough. I can understand wanting to hide real face pics, but dayum, it makes them look foolish.

If she can remember the fear associated with Y2 K, she's too doggone old to be using bunny ears in her pics or vids. Leave that crap in Snapchat.

(oh, kudos if you made a killing off of the IPO of that Snapchat crap)

The "get off my lawn" rant is over.

Happy hunting,

Milfman.

[ShagMaster D]

Hey man you showed up a few days ago, sent out 3 form letters to 3 different forums, asked for info on 3 chick's, say you dreamed with Carla but gave no link to her and offered no info. You want pm's to give that out. You need to adjust your attitude and act like the Newby that you are. You get nothing else from me tIll you offer up at least twice as much info as you have taken in the short time you have been here. Honestly, I have serious concerns about what you are doing here.Not sure what you mean?

Respect is give and take.

SD.

[MilfMan865]

Sr. Member of the club that doesn't exist? I think you just validated all the points I made in our recent discussion. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, just making a point, that it shouldn't be a big deal to mention the existence of our "club" especially with regard to providing a reference. See my post #959 under Tips, Tricks, Arguing and Bullshit.We are all gatekeepers and I appreciate your tenacity with bringing forth a potential faux pas. Reminders are always encouraged, but be careful of Fight Club mis-interpretations. No Fight Club Rule Violations are possible since W is already aware of Fight Club, likely well before many of us were aware of Fight Club and arrived for our first fight.

Go ahead. ,. , take just a moment and look across the room at Fight Club ,. ,. , you will likely see her there. ,. ,. , hootin' and hollerin' . ,. ,. , reminding a dude about Fight Club Rule #3 (since she can induce massage drunkenness).

W can't unsee Fight Club. No one is running to her and chirping about something that went on a Fight Club in this instance. A member is providing a reference to a provider who is ALREADY AWARE of Fight Club; said member IS NOT INTRODUCING a provider (totally unaware to this point) to Fight Club for purposes of helping her screen. Actually, I'm confident that W has Fight Club Rule #8 under her belt.

Of course, I could totally off-base in this interpretation. Lively debate pushes us forward nonetheless.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[Ga Dogfan]

We are all gatekeepers and I appreciate your tenacity with bringing forth a potential faux pas. Reminders are always encouraged, but be careful of Fight Club mis-interpretations. No Fight Club Rule Violations are possible since W is already aware of Fight Club, likely well before many of us were aware of Fight Club and arrived for our first fight.

Go ahead. ,. , take just a moment and look across the room at Fight Club ,. ,. , you will likely see her there. ,. ,. , hootin' and hollerin' . ,. ,. , reminding a dude about Fight Club Rule #3 (since she can induce massage drunkenness).

W can't unsee Fight Club. No one is running to her and chirping about something that went on a Fight Club in this instance. A member is providing a reference to a provider who is ALREADY AWARE of Fight Club; said member IS NOT INTRODUCING a provider (totally unaware to this point) to Fight Club for purposes of helping her screen. Actually, I'm confident that W has Fight Club Rule #8 under her belt.

Of course, I could totally off-base in this interpretation. Lively debate pushes us forward nonetheless.

Stay safe,

Milfman.I think what newbies don't understand is the ladies used to post on here. They don't now that several of the trusted ladies still know about this side and will comment. However they're not the ones starting trouble. Honestly it's nicer without to many here because so many used to cause drama. The ones like W. , Chris, LTP and a few others don't create drama over an unfavorable comment. I guess some of the newbs will never get it and those are the ones that will never get help from me. I don't care if have reached senior status! Mainly this side is for mongers and reviews. Just my two cents and I'm sure I'm not the only long time senior who feels this way. All might not speak up but that doesn't mean they'll help you either.

Happy Hunting.

Dawg.

[StonesRoller69]

I think what newbies don't understand is the ladies used to post on here. They don't now that several of the trusted ladies still know about this side and will comment. However they're not the ones starting trouble. Honestly it's nicer without to many here because so many used to cause drama. The ones like W. , Chris, LTP and a few others don't create drama over an unfavorable comment. I guess some of the newbs will never get it and those are the ones that will never get help from me. I don't care if have reached senior status! Mainly this side is for mongers and reviews. Just my two cents and I'm sure I'm not the only long time senior who feels this way. All might not speak up but that doesn't mean they'll help you either.

Happy Hunting.

Dawg.I don't know if your comments are directed at me but I won't take it personally. My overall point was, and still is, it really isn't a big deal if a provider knows about the club -- the basics, just that it exists and there are trusted members so she and they can use that to their advantage. MilfMan's example proves my point. How the provider knows is irrelevant, it is clear that her knowing is an advantage in this case to MM's providing digits and the provider's knowing they can be trusted. It's that simple. I think people are too hung up on the supposed rules like they are out of the Bible or something. Remember, Fight Club is just a movie.

[Rrayr]

I understand the last two examples. But Example 1 does not provide the necessary details on how to accomplish this without mentioning the club or providing further information. Think through the possibilities of the whole scenario. For example, I recently...

The devil is in the details and you are not providing enough for me to understand how to best make this work.

I welcome any other opinions on this.Stonesroller69 is right on point note worthy with regards to the providers performance and mature feedback.

MilfMan865 as well has always articulated a stellar thought process. Unfortunately some of the "fly-by-bucks" that attend fight club are short lived visit and leave a mess in their wake.

I for one think; and I would stake all here agree, that safety supersedes all other rules.
It may be an unwritten obvious rule, but nonetheless paramount.
I've certainly made some mistakes at start and continue to value the seasoned true mongers that remain as mentors.
It's always amusing to see the rookies cry about "Millennial fairness". Like stated before, this is not FB.
The stakes are high, and the respected Seniors that are still around appropriate the rules and their manners accordingly.
Let me list the stakes for those of you newbie fuckers that are slow: Injury or death, incarceration, labeled Sex offender, divorce , loss of income, and disease. And not necessarily in that order.

Mongers value: Safety, legitimate (non-LEO),
quality, serviced performance and donation.
Providers value: Safety, legitimate (non-LEO), donations, gentlemanly treatment.

Reviews are extremely important to both sides.

And most of the drama stems from crass mean spirited thoughtless reviews. Feelings get hurt and name calling gets thrown around. We least not forget these are women gentlemen. Emotional sexual creatures. A2 already does a tremendous job at filtering out all the providers BS. And my advice to all the providers that know about this forum has ALWAYS BEEN to please DO NOT read your reviews. Because it does nothing but ad damage to the already self conscious delicate females psyche. "Just do a great job sweetie and all will be fine and the roses will pour in".

Did I leave anything out?

Drink and be gone.

Rrayr.

[MutualRespect]

1. If you don't want to smell like perfume or cigarettes when leaving a provider:

A. Ask ahead of time if she is able and willing to accommodate that request.

B. Remind her of your request the night before. I can't remember everything and don't expect my provider to either, they talk and text a lot of us.

C. If you shower at her place afterwards, do not use any of her towels. They generally leave a feminine scent on you because they are washed with her other laundry. If the towel is fresh and folded up on the rack at a hotel, it is usually scent free.

D. While this is obvious, don't use her soap. Bring your own or just rinse off.

E. It is my responsibility to stay wife-safe, not the provider's. The only time you could blame her is if you ask ahead of time, she agreed and still wears something scented. Of course, if you already took boner pills it's hard to leave.

F. After you've cleaned up, do not hug or kiss the provider goodbye. Usually her clothes have her scent and it will transfer.

2. YMMV: Your Mileage May Very simply means that you may have a different chemistry with the provider than someone else does. I find treating a woman with respect provides a consistently great experience. Say something you like about her body or something she does or is doing for you. Its simple really, make her feel good and she will work harder to make you feel like a king. Human relations 101.

3. Sometimes the chemistry isn't there and that's OK. Everyone has unique tastes and if she isn't your cup of tea, don't return. There are some I'll never see again and a select few that I still think about.

4. Bring your own condoms so that the experience isn't handicapped by not having one. You probably have a favorite anyway.

[Magic Show]

1. If you don't want to smell like perfume or cigarettes when leaving a provider:These are good tips. With regards to smoke and perfume odors, a good trick is to carry a dryer sheet or two with you. If the lady does not respect your wishes about smoking or perfumes, rub it over your clothes after you leave and you can largely neutralize most odors.

[MilfMan865]

Having been visiting strip clubs for so long, I am starting to see the daughters of my favorite dancers hit the stage. A few of my favorite MILFs were recently blessed with healthy grand children. Every birthday we're all as old as we've ever been and as young as we'll ever be again.

I'm not looking to institute a name change to pay homage to the GMILFs in particular, but I wanted to give a shout out to all of the GMILFs. ,. , handling their own business and offering assistance to their kids and grand-kids. My oh my, that erotic GMILF experience is always reliable .,., never iffy like some of the shiny and new ladies coming onto the scene. Always a consistent experience with trusty GMILFs, ladies in every sense of word.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[TricitiesGuy]

I am a longtime member of the boards, but have not been extremely active here or in the hobby. In fact, it had been a couple of years since I had seen anyone in the hobby until a couple of weeks ago when I met someone from Seeking Arrangements. Anyway, I contacted a very well reviewed provider who asked for refefences. Since I have been out of the hobby, the ladies I knew are no longer active or available to give refs. Preferred411 was mentioned as an option. Can I get some opinions on that? Is it safe & discreet? Is it worth it to get "re-established" (or more accurately, established as I was never very active). Thanks for everyone's posts & advice, past, current & future.

[LionHaart]

I am a longtime member of the boards, but have not been extremely active here or in the hobby. In fact, it had been a couple of years since I had seen anyone in the hobby until a couple of weeks ago when I met someone from Seeking Arrangements. Anyway, I contacted a very well reviewed provider who asked for refefences. Since I have been out of the hobby, the ladies I knew are no longer active or available to give refs. Preferred411 was mentioned as an option. Can I get some opinions on that? Is it safe & discreet? Is it worth it to get "re-established" (or more accurately, established as I was never very active). Thanks for everyone's posts & advice, past, current & future.Yes, it is worth it! It is very confidential and discreet and worth the small fee and hassle. And it helped me to meet some very beautiful and well established ladies. Play safe.

[MutualRespect]

Yes, it is worth it! It is very confidential and discreet and worth the small fee and hassle. And it helped me to meet some very beautiful and well established ladies. Play safe.Agree with Lion. It is safe to share your information with them. They are based in Canada and take the verification very seriously.

[MilfMan865]

So, if a member notifies the masses that a provider is in desperate need of help today. ,. , highly recommended. ,. , great body and awesome personality. ,. ,. , and her rates are 200 roses and up per hour incall. ,. , 250-275 roses per hour outcall depending on location. ,. , in Knoxville where SA is prevalent and reasonable options always available. ,. , is it considered desperate when she's not running some type of "special" for the short notice to bring her in line with the other viable options? As with most aspects, it boils down to semantics.

Stay safe. ,. ,

Milfman.

[Whitney31]

So, if a member notifies the masses that a provider is in desperate need of help today. ,. , highly recommended. ,. , great body and awesome personality. ,. ,. , and her rates are 200 roses and up per hour incall. ,. , 250-275 roses per hour outcall depending on location. ,. , in Knoxville where SA is prevalent and reasonable options always available. ,. , is it considered desperate when she's not running some type of "special" for the short notice to bring her in line with the other viable options? As with most aspects, it boils down to semantics.

Stay safe. ,. ,

Milfman.If you see what I'm seeing Milfman. It doesn't mean she is really desperate. She is quite witty actually. Having a member of the board post advertisements for her keeps administration from having to delete the advertisement for her as we all know that providers should use the classified section of USA.

[MilfMan865]

It's arguably the 2nd most wonderful time of the year. Look around you gentlemen. The USA Adult Classifieds for Knoxvegas is blossoming, an enormous number of potential options are realizing that a regular 9-5 job at near minimum wage will not pay the bills, those that are recently 18 are itching to practice their adulting, many of the more popular strippers are traveling out of town for the weekends which makes room for some eager newbies, BP and CL are packed with ads (if you're still doing that and craving a bit of danger with your nut), UTRs are popping up like merekats, SA has several new potential SBs joining every day. Many of which claim to have "never done anything like this before", and the reliable and established providers have greater availability.

To be Captain Obvious for a bit. ,. , supply greatly outweighs demand at this juncture. I'm usually willing to pay a premium (plus tip) for exceptional service (I do not negotiate, if she's asking for an unreasonable donation for her skillset, I move on to the next without trying to talk her down). However, the competition is so fierce for our entertainment dollars, the price for companionship has plummeted. Yes, the ladies could command much more and the market would support much more, but competition between ladies instead of cooperation among ladies has created the landscape that we now enjoy. Monger responsibly, my friends, and enjoy this wonderful time of the year.

Happy Hunting, ,

Milfman.

[Rrayr]

It's arguably the 2nd most wonderful time of the year. Look around you gentlemen. The USA Adult Classifieds for Knoxvegas is blossoming, an enormous number of potential options are realizing that a regular 9-5 job at near minimum wage will not pay the bills, those that are recently 18 are itching to practice their adulting, many of the more popular strippers are traveling out of town for the weekends which makes room for some eager newbies, BP and CL are packed with ads (if you're still doing that and craving a bit of danger with your nut), UTRs are popping up like merekats, SA has several new potential SBs joining every day. Many of which claim to have "never done anything like this before", and the reliable and established providers have greater availability.

To be Captain Obvious for a bit. ,. , supply greatly outweighs demand at this juncture. I'm usually willing to pay a premium (plus tip) for exceptional service (I do not negotiate, if she's asking for an unreasonable donation for her skillset, I move on to the next without trying to talk her down). However, the competition is so fierce for our entertainment dollars, the price for companionship has plummeted. Yes, the ladies could command much more and the market would support much more, but competition between ladies instead of cooperation among ladies has created the landscape that we now enjoy. Monger responsibly, my friends, and enjoy this wonderful time of the year.

Happy Hunting, ,

Milfman.Amen brother. Competition is Fierce out there right now. And what rises to the top is not only the expected visual quality, but the service of consistant reliable quality. And clear coded communication is paramount for us Mongers. Simply put, move on to the next provider if you're not getting what you deserve. Most of them are slow learners. But eventually the good ones catch on.

Drink and be gone.

Rrayr.

[Rrayr]

I had this dream about role reversal.

I contemplated asking these girls for paying ME for my time, charm and complete mannered gentleman qualities. I feel I'm worth it. While some men would gladly give away their time at no cost for most of these lovelys, I feel MY standards are at least worth $25 bucks for a whole hour.

15/HH
8/QV

That is all.

Rrayr.

[StonesRoller69]

I had this dream about role reversal.

I contemplated asking these girls for paying ME for my time, charm and complete mannered gentleman qualities. I feel I'm worth it. While some men would gladly give away their time at no cost for most of these lovelys, I feel MY standards are at least worth $25 bucks for a whole hour.

15/HH
8/QV

That is all.

Rrayr.You are selling yourself short, my friend. You should double those rates. And get the money up front!

[MilfMan865]

I had this dream about role reversal.

I contemplated asking these girls for paying ME for my time, charm and complete mannered gentleman qualities. I feel I'm worth it. While some men would gladly give away their time at no cost for most of these lovelys, I feel MY standards are at least worth $25 bucks for a whole hour.

15/HH
8/QV

That is all.

Rrayr.


You are selling yourself short, my friend. You should double those rates. And get the money up front!Be careful man. A bunch of dudes will get into the game so that the supply will skyrocket while the demand remains flat.

I have confidence in you man, but I'll give you a week, then I fear we'll see you posting rates of 12.50 per hour FS, 7. 50/ HH, and 4/ QV, you'll be using filters on your pics, along with a special for returning friends. Your screening process and LEO check will be the phrase "So you coming or nah?". Focus on arrangements, that's where the real money is because you could get 50 just for being a dinner date. The next few days will be full of eureka moments.

Happy hunting,

Milfman.

[HitAndQuit63]

I had this dream about role reversal.

I contemplated asking these girls for paying ME for my time, charm and complete mannered gentleman qualities. I feel I'm worth it. While some men would gladly give away their time at no cost for most of these lovelys, I feel MY standards are at least worth $25 bucks for a whole hour.

15/HH
8/QV

That is all.

Rrayr.If you need a handler let me know!

[Rrayr]

If you need a handler let me know!Ha! Fine fellers waste no time pimping me out.

I may need a driver tho.

There are no sheep farmers in Valhalla
But there are many silent Wh****.

[GreenHornet99]

Ha! Fine fellers waste no time pimping me out.

I may need a driver tho.

There are no sheep farmers in Valhalla
But there are many silent Wh****.I'm a really good driver and I get my underwear at Kmart. Have to be back in time to watch Judge Wapner though.

[MilfMan865]

I'm a really good driver and I get my underwear at Kmart. Have to be back in time to watch Judge Wapner though.We see you flexin':

http://knoxville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/hey-ladies-tired-of-being-treated-like-shit-and-no-respect-towards-ya/22066208

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[Rrayr]

We see you flexin':

http://knoxville.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/hey-ladies-tired-of-being-treated-like-shit-and-no-respect-towards-ya/22066208

Stay safe,

Milfman.Damn! Nothing gets by you!

You've been outed!

[InFromBehind]

If you need a handler let me know!https://youtu.be/LXWIWFgY0lU

[HitAndQuit63]

https://youtu.be/LXWIWFgY0lUMan I wish.

[KelseyKel]

I had this dream about role reversal.

I contemplated asking these girls for paying ME for my time, charm and complete mannered gentleman qualities. I feel I'm worth it. While some men would gladly give away their time at no cost for most of these lovelys, I feel MY standards are at least worth $25 bucks for a whole hour.

15/HH
8/QV

That is all.

Rrayr.Rrayr.

I'll be your handler AND your driver! But, it's going to cost ya.

Kel.

[Rrayr]

Rrayr.

I'll be your handler AND your driver! But, it's going to cost ya.

Kel.Ha! Sold!

Let's star with 10% Kel.

[KelseyKel]

Ha! Sold!

Let's star with 10% Kel.Hand shake.

[Rrayr]

Hand shake.Shall we visit Lady Mo? Or is that too soon?

[HitAndQuit63]

Shall we visit Lady Mo? Or is that too soon?Glad I lost out on the job he's all yours young lady. Hope you both make it back in one piece.

[LuvKnoxSB]

Someone ratted me out on a post. So I got blasted on SA thanks for that whoever you are.

[Jg3786]

Ha! Sold!

Let's star with 10% Kel.Make sure she keeps an eye on the gas gauge.

[HitAndQuit63]

Shall we visit Lady Mo? Or is that too soon?I have vision of a giant redhead chasing you two down strawberry plains Pike giant strap on flapping.

[Skboy]

Someone ratted me out on a post. So I got blasted on SA thanks for that whoever you are.You can forget about the fight club rules on this site.

There will always be some lapdog wanta be king of the white knight world that will run his DS about what is said / posted on this forum to providers.

I have thousands of photos / videos that I will not post for this reason.

So who,s lost is it ? The members who enjoy seeing photos of providers doing what they do best. Btw which is the biggest reason I joined this site or the monger who thinks he has that extra special connection with the provider by running his mouth about what is on the site. That is a joke within its self. When she seeing you for free please let everyone know.

Of course there are the providers at troll this site to see what is being said about them. One thing is for sure if they are doing that they are not providing any service to anyone.

So there is my Fight club rules rant JMO !

[Whitney31]

I want to let the board know that I work alone. For my safety and others I do not affiliate with other providers. I've been burned too many times by trying to help them. I don't bother them for verification So, please don't ask me for verification. Thank you.

[StonesRoller69]

Man, there are a lot of dumbasses on this site. What is with this trend of calling every monger who does something you don't like a White Knight? If actually caring about fellow human beings makes me a White Knight then I will wear the title proudly and say, "Fuck You. " Got it?

[Whitney31]

Looking for a small place to rent in the Knoxville area. Discretion is very important to me so please only message me privately and not in the forum. Established clientele with suggestions only please. Send me a pm Or text me. Thank you dear friends.

[Winston1984]

After my last review, I got a question from lets say Bob. He wishes to know if a girl is in her own apartment or did outcall. I understand questions posed to me that a girl might not answer honestly. But it seems easy to contact her and ask. As a glance at my screen name will tell any English literature major, I can be a bit paranoid. But what does the group think?

[HitAndQuit63]

After my last review, I got a question from lets say Bob. He wishes to know if a girl is in her own apartment or did outcall. I understand questions posed to me that a girl might not answer honestly. But it seems easy to contact her and ask. As a glance at my screen name will tell any English literature major, I can be a bit paranoid. But what does the group think?I think it's up to poster to decide what to share. I'm not always comfortable with some questions I've.

Been asked and I answer that way. I don't think it's an inappropriate question. Just another factor in deciding to meet the provided.

[TricitiesGuy]

Does anyone know a decent hotel in Knoxville around Strawberry Plains or Papermill that offers express check out. Leaving and simply leaving your keys in the room? The Best Western at exit 8 off of I-81 in offers that, and I've found it very useful. It seems I am leaving Morrristown and moving my activities farther into Knoxville. I know some hotels will do that if you arrange it in advance, but I like the convenience and anonymity of having that as an option by default. Thanks in advance!