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MisforMaster
02-18-13, 23:24
I'm looking for a Sugarbaby. Craigslist is horrible. I could go into detail about the young woman that I met off of there who passed out in a bathroom with a heroin needle in her arm, but I'll save everyone the drama. And most of the sites that I've been on have a very limited selection of women who basically don't respond to emails.

If there are other websites that I've missed (seeking arrangement, sugardaddies), please let me know.

I'm open for ideas. Feel free to PM me if its warranted.

MM

LeftyGolfer
02-19-13, 09:17
Check out a site called sugar daddy for me.

WarlockKy
02-19-13, 23:19
I'm looking for a Sugarbaby. Craigslist is horrible. I could go into detail about the young woman that I met off of there who passed out in a bathroom with a heroin needle in her arm, but I'll save everyone the drama. And most of the sites that I've been on have a very limited selection of women who basically don't respond to emails.

If there are other websites that I've missed (seeking arrangement, sugardaddies) , please let me know.

I'm open for ideas. Feel free to PM me if its warranted.

MMHttp://www.sponsorforme.com/

A friend of mine has had more than just a little bit of luck there

HotnCoolPk
02-19-13, 23:52
Http://www.sponsorforme.com/

A friend of mine has had more than just a little bit of luck thereThanks. I was also looking for a similar site. Will definitely check it out!

MisforMaster
02-20-13, 03:52
For the record. I think I've finally met my match.

HotnCoolPk
02-20-13, 15:23
For the record. I think I've finally met my match.Can you elaborate a little? Did you use below site to find? It would be helpful for fellow mongers.

MisforMaster
02-21-13, 00:29
Can you elaborate a little? Did you use below site to find? It would be helpful for fellow mongers.I've finally met someone who's giving me a run for my Money.

Ally (AKA Sinful Dreams).

I'm never the type of guy who kisses and tells. Unless I'm alerting my fellow mongers to a dangerous situation, thief, or, an Uncle amongst us. But words can't really describe the dynamic that she and I have had for the last two days. To say that I never expected anyone like her is an understatement.

EuroInCincy
03-18-13, 08:09
Most luck at sa or sd4m?

Member #4514
03-30-13, 11:53
I have experienced incredible fortune at SA. If you're looking for a consistent GFE and develop a more monogamous type relationship (at least as close as it gets in the business) , it's fantastic. A lot of them only see one person if you're fortunate enough to find what you're looking for. Worth the money, I assure you. Lots of college girls on there too looking for help. Sometimes you have to be really patient but that's what I prefer anyway.

BamBam
03-31-13, 14:24
Could you elaborate on SA? I haven't tried them. Could you post a link or send it to me in a PM?

Thanks!


I have experienced incredible fortune at SA. If you're looking for a consistent GFE and develop a more monogamous type relationship (at least as close as it gets in the business) , it's fantastic. A lot of them only see one person if you're fortunate enough to find what you're looking for. Worth the money, I assure you. Lots of college girls on there too looking for help. Sometimes you have to be really patient but that's what I prefer anyway.

Ancvz
04-04-13, 00:25
Could you elaborate on SA? I haven't tried them. Could you post a link or send it to me in a PM?

Thanks!Fairly certain he's referring to :

http://www.seekingarrangement.com/

BamBam
04-05-13, 16:39
Thanks ANCVZ. I also got the info from a PM.


Fairly certain he's referring to :

http://www.seekingarrangement.com/

EuroInCincy
05-16-13, 09:13
Anybody else doing so in Cincy?

Compare notes?

Pasture Finder
11-30-13, 15:55
I've been interested in this type of arrangement. Looking into SA now. Anyone had any success?

Pasture Finder
12-01-13, 19:21
I've been interested in this type of arrangement. Looking into SA now. Anyone had any success?Yeah, not impressed with SA. Sites that like are a giant waste of my time. I've seen several sites like this and they all do the free sign up and a fortune to do anything. Like AFF. They send out those fake messages and stuff to get you to enter a credit card. I'm happy to share more of my findings, but save your time.

Anyhow, I welcome PMs and messages about some type of sugar daddy type of relationship.

Tip01
12-02-13, 17:25
Unfortunately I haven't found a site (Big or Small) that isn't like this.


Yeah, not impressed with SA. Sites that like are a giant waste of my time. I've seen several sites like this and they all do the free sign up and a fortune to do anything. Like AFF. They send out those fake messages and stuff to get you to enter a credit card. I'm happy to share more of my findings, but save your time.

Anyhow, I welcome PMs and messages about some type of sugar daddy type of relationship.

DavidNgrk
12-03-13, 13:51
Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.

Pasture Finder
12-03-13, 16:06
Anyone ever had success with AM?

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.I'm on AM. Not much luck for me. They managed to get some funds out of me.



I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.The woman I've talked to said they get like 200 messages a day from guys, so it is mostly like a dating site where you have to stand out to get attention. As a guy on there with a photo and completed profile and such I've received about a half dozen messages, most of which are a one contact message saying "Want to chat?" So I agree... Kind of scammy. Of course AM makes a little money on each of those messages so great for them... But my opinion would be that it is not worth it.

TallGuy54
12-03-13, 19:05
Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.I had the same results when I tried Asley M. But I had a lot better results using Adultfriendfinder.com.

Dsprdo
12-03-13, 19:14
There is a huge thread on this on the Richmond, VA page, with contributors from all over the country. It is filled with good tips and some great stories. I personally have met and had success with 8-10 girls in the last 8-9 months, ranging from UTR girls to a couple of true first timers. I use SA exclusively but some guys swear by sugardaddy4 me. I have pretty much given up looking for girls anywhere else.

Varoom
12-03-13, 19:54
There is a huge thread on this on the Richmond, VA page, with contributors from all over the country. It is filled with good tips and some great stories. I personally have met and had success with 8-10 girls in the last 8-9 months, ranging from UTR girls to a couple of true first timers. I use SA exclusively but some guys swear by sugardaddy4 me. I have pretty much given up looking for girls anywhere else.As Dsprdo mentions, the thread here on usasg is stellar reading on the subject. If you wish to learn the trade of hunting and trapping Sugarbabies you might as well learn from some of the experts who write about their experiences right here on the site. Frankly whether you are interested in this craft or not it is some of the most entertaining reading one could have; well worth pouring a martini and begin on page one as it reads like a novel. There are now over 5200 posts to consume on the subject and you will certainly pick up a number of pointers there too as quite a few of these fellows have been practicing for years and share nearly every detail of their thrists..

You will find the thread here http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-... but I would suggest going to the bottom right hand side of the page and hitting last, this will take you to post #1... These older gents have become quite skilled at charming the pants off of these youngins regularly. What a country!!

Pasture Finder
12-05-13, 17:24
As Dsprdo mentions, the thread here on usasg is stellar reading on the subject. If you wish to learn the trade of hunting and trapping Sugarbabies you might as well learn from some of the experts who write about their experiences right here on the site. It is certainly a good read. Completely killing my free time reading through this start to finish, but getting a lot of questions answered. And laughing quite a bit too.

Pasture Finder
12-09-13, 23:32
I've been looking at and exploring the idea of being a sugar daddy for a little bit of time now. I've read many of the interesting and informative posts on the link below and I've learned quite a bit. I've determined that being a sugar daddy is for me. I'm a business owner and have a little money. Turns out that it makes me quite the sugar daddy.

With that said my goal has been to find the perfect combination of someone who shares and interest in business AND someone who is okay with something physical. I've tried the escort thing and I have to say it left me wanting something more. This seems to do the trick.

As I mentioned below, I've tried Ashley Mad, and it was a waste of money. Between USASG and checking things out on sites like Seeking Arrangements it appears that being an SD has a promising future.

Just thought I would share.

Todd Cincy
12-17-13, 13:15
SD4 M (Sugar Daddy for Me), on the other hand, seems to be dying, at least in the Cincinnati area. Moreover, SD4 M wouldn't stop processing my credit card, so I stopped using them altogether.

Seeking Arrangement is more above-board, and you can end your membership at any time (no auto billing). Seeking Arrangement also does a good job of weeding out fake profiles. The atmosphere there is almost like a conventional dating site.

The sugar daddy scene is recommended if you prefer the higher end ladies here (Dawn, Shelly, Molly, EE), and would like to take your hobbying to the "next level". I have seen around a dozen UTRs and first-timers from the site over the past 3 years.

I have usually paid $200 per encounter (occasionally $300 when the lady had to travel a long distance to me).

SA is *not* a good option for those of you who are into $40 car dates with crack-addicted SWs (and I would prefer you keep the SW cooties to yourself, anyway).

You will need time and a considerable amount of patience. Since the sugar daddy scene has become widely publicized, SA has attracted a lot of women who have inflated expectations. Some seem to see it as a Match or E-Harmony where they can meet millionaires. LOL.

But there definitely are some gems who are willing to play for a moderate amount of cash. I have had the most luck with working-class single moms of various ages, and students, aged 21 to 25. College-educated career women aged 25 to 35, not so much: They are the ones who regard the site as "Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire?" For those of you who like older women, the site *does* have a few low-volume, UTR MILFs who play.

I want to emphasize that this is not like calling up an escort service and having a woman knock on your door an hour later. You have to be willing to put some time and effort in, and even deal with rejection. But the sugar daddy scene *is* real, and you will meet women on SA who simply aren't going to show up on BP, or even here.

EuroInCincy
01-29-14, 07:56
Seeking Arrangement is more above-board, and you can end your membership at any time (no auto billing). Seeking Arrangement also does a good job of weeding out fake profiles. The atmosphere there is almost like a conventional dating site.

I want to emphasize that this is not like calling up an escort service and having a woman knock on your door an hour later. You have to be willing to put some time and effort in, and even deal with rejection. But the sugar daddy scene *is* real, and you will meet women on SA who simply aren't going to show up on BP, or even here.I fully agree here and quite enjoy the dynamics there.

I have met some real gems there.

Colt0870
03-14-14, 15:58
Anyone ever had success with AM? I tried it and invested $50. Early on I got a lot of messages and interest from a girl. Probably about a 6. She said she had an open relationship with her husband. I kind of chickened out and we never met. I was feeling good about the site so I put in another $150 I think. I tried the "Traveling Man" feature which to my surprise required separate fees. I got a hot lead while in Chicago from a girl who said she loved sex. She was about a 4. She chickened out this time. The messages really dropped off after that. I still have an account with tons of credits but never get any messages. I think they have a lot of shills on the site that send newbies messages so they invest more money.

I gave up because it just seemed like so much work to connect with a decent looking girl, arrange a meeting and try to find time to have an affair and cover all your tracks. Also worried about if the girl would try to wreck my home life.

If done right, the hobby is much easier, safer and has definite results.I've been on a AM for 6-7 months and have many great encounters with married and attached ladies. From chat to FS. I had up to 16 ladies going at one time, seeing 2-3 a week all for the price of a room. It's all in your approach on AM. Calm and Cool gets you in. I still have 5 I'm playing with.

NKY747
03-25-14, 02:53
A recent interview on 700 WLW had an involved discussion of how much money that site is making.

Enough so where there is a very likely chance it will have its own stock index. The statistics were amazing in the world of sex and how men and women are working it between the legs.

A few stats:

Women have as many as 4 affairs a year. (those in the game).

Men have on average 5-6 in the same time frame.

Those who 'do' the deed end up mostly with those who are less attractive than their current partner.

Average span of time spent in the affair; 3-4 months, average.

Of course some renegades could skew those results. Whether better looking or otherwise. Indirectly I have 3 women that that don't come with $ signs that the arrangement is for good times. When one falls out of the rotation I usually find one to enter back into it, keeps it interesting. It's like shooting fish out of a barrel on facebook if you know what you're doing, understanding the friend zone.

So many women out there in relationships where the guy just isn't providing the bedroom romantics. In knowing this, and without thinking completely with your cock you can get somewhere just bringing your position up carefully from a necessity point of view.

Of course everyone has their game, some better than others. I've found that no two women are the same but two women in the same room is even better.

Colt0870
03-25-14, 18:22
I have noticed recently that AM switched owners and now profiles with pics get way more attention and show up in the searches more often then a non-pic profile. When I have my pic up I get more looks. I have noticed also more SB on there looking for their SD.

Hairy2
04-23-14, 21:38
I will offer my experience since venturing into the SB scene. Details will follow, but in general if you like the flakiness and delays of a $50/ hhr streetscort but prefer to pay for at high end escort rates, then a Sugar baby is for you!

Details on my meetings:

SB #1 - Prompt, friendly. No investment besides dinner. However, much heavier and only 4 ft tall. Pass.

SB #2 - Best so far. $50+dinner on first meet. Then we started making out and she gave me a HJ without me asking. Unfortunately, she never took another call of mine.

SB #3- Lunch. She wanted $400 (per meet. Probably a 5-6 on the scale. Whatever.

SB #4- Never can meet. Always claimed to be "15 minutes away." Total flake. I gave up trying to meet after 4 false starts.

SB #5 - Lots of rules, but she really has a decent job and a kid. Looks like we have come to agree on a ppm of $100, so wish me luck.

All in all, a lot of work and little return.

EuroInCincy
04-27-14, 07:57
SB #2 - Best so far. $50+dinner on first meet. Then we started making out and she gave me a HJ without me asking. Unfortunately, she never took another call of mine.
That is all some want, or they don't dare to take the next step.

Kasai
04-28-14, 15:26
There's an application (for both android and Apple) called tinder that a close friend of mine has had success with. 30,000 foot view of it is quite simple:

Everyone posts a picture and you go through pictures of women and swipesone way if you would find them attractive and the other way if you don't. If both you and the woman find each other attractive you can start talking to one another and set up a time and a place (my friend has met people and just hooked up with them without a donation).

Obviously if you don't want your picture out there this isn't a great option, but it's still an option.

TriStateTori
05-14-14, 20:23
SD4 M (Sugar Daddy for Me), on the other hand, seems to be dying, at least in the Cincinnati area. Moreover, SD4 M wouldn't stop processing my credit card, so I stopped using them altogether.
I moved here from South Orange County, CA. I had great success as a sugarbaby using Sugar Daddy For Me. It seems to be a waste of money in Cincy, so I canceled my account.

CA had a few fake "Daddies", and I wish SD4 M did better screening, but whatever. I didn't see any decent options in Cincy. Had a few potentials make offers as a response to CL / BP ads I posted, but they were all flakes or one guy wanting someone to abuse and mask it as a dom / sub relationship (he wanted to control food, put me on a leash and collar on a treadmill, use his grill steak prod thing to brand (ie: burn) his initials on my ass, and even had his own WATERBOARDING table to test monthly to ensure I was honest when he asked if I broke any rules from his 107 page rulebook). LOL.

After that guy, even men who ask me to poop on them don't surprise me. .



You will need time and a considerable amount of patience. Since the sugar daddy scene has become widely publicized, SA has attracted a lot of women who have inflated expectations. Some seem to see it as a Match or E-Harmony where they can meet millionaires. LOL.I think some of those women had pumped their pretty little heads with ideas from shows like Millionaire Matchmaker, hehe.

PillowTalk69
05-15-14, 06:37
Most SBs think they have gold lined psy and want a fortune to play Guys generally I have met or talked with are looking for play time not a steady woman. Ladies always have the choice as an escort to go LTR play or hourly / half but many ladies never take in the shopping options, dinner etc and women usually want "extras" with the $ options. SBs are usually nothing more than escorts with extras. Best bargains so far on the board are the 2 and three hundred overnights dinner, maybe some shopping then home for some serious no holds barred play after equipment checks. Most men are looking for high quality ladies / escorts who love it all. Men say they aren't but backchannel they are and so are ladies. It is amazing how many high end ladies on USASG are looking for natural play and have high quality reps. Most men love the feel of a woman on their business and most women love to ride their business and feel the results Just my experience. I love curling up with a woman at night doing her in many positions feeling her riding my business then spooning with her. Sometimes feeling her hands and mouth early morning waking me up for a return to bliss before the end of the overnight and depositing some serious baby batter in her to have us both leave with memories and hopefully return engagements. Most men are NOT looking for a SO or steady companion but a woman who knows how to pleasure a man COMPLETELY and wants the same from him as often as he can get it up and release. SBs are fine for men with dollars, lots of them. Me I will take a HOT HORNEY SP any day with an excellent reputation and see what we can work out. JMO FWIW. PT.

DavidNgrk
05-15-14, 14:31
Men say they aren't but backchannel they are and so are ladies. It is amazing how many high end ladies on USASG are looking for natural play and have high quality reps. Most men love the feel of a woman on their business and most women love to ride their business and feel the results Just my experience. I love curling up with a woman at night doing her in many positions feeling her riding my business then spooning with her. Sometimes feeling her hands and mouth early morning waking me up for a return to bliss before the end of the overnight and depositing some serious baby batter in her to have us both leave with memories and hopefully return engagements. I assume each party shares a doctor's clean bill of health note, right? I would love to find a SP with this situation assuming all is clear and clean. Covers are such a buzzkill and I usually just go the BNG route.

HollywoodGuy
05-15-14, 18:11
Most SBs think they have gold lined psy and want a fortune to play Guys generally I have met or talked with are looking for play time not a steady woman. Ladies always have the choice as an escort to go LTR play or hourly / half but many ladies never take in the shopping options, dinner etc and women usually want "extras" with the $ options. SBs are usually nothing more than escorts with extras. Best bargains so far on the board are the 2 and three hundred overnights dinner, maybe some shopping then home for some serious no holds barred play after equipment checks. Most men are looking for high quality ladies / escorts who love it all. Men say they aren't but backchannel they are and so are ladies. It is amazing how many high end ladies on USASG are looking for natural play and have high quality reps. Most men love the feel of a woman on their business and most women love to ride their business and feel the results Just my experience. I love curling up with a woman at night doing her in many positions feeling her riding my business then spooning with her. Sometimes feeling her hands and mouth early morning waking me up for a return to bliss before the end of the overnight and depositing some serious baby batter in her to have us both leave with memories and hopefully return engagements. Most men are NOT looking for a SO or steady companion but a woman who knows how to pleasure a man COMPLETELY and wants the same from him as often as he can get it up and release. SBs are fine for men with dollars, lots of them. Me I will take a HOT HORNEY SP any day with an excellent reputation and see what we can work out. JMO FWIW. PT.You mean $$ to $ plus shopping, dinner etc? They better be lifetime memory dates for those prices. Or $$ to $ total for everything you spend on?

EuroInCincy
05-18-14, 07:53
I think some of those women had pumped their pretty little heads with ideas from shows like Millionaire Matchmaker, hehe.I have used SA for a very very long time, and have had some good longer term result until about a year ago when it really got popular...and most who came onboard had the Golden Pussy Syndrome. In one meet and greet I was told "let's go tot the casino and bring $15,000 to pay so she could double the $so I did bring $15,000 in monopoly $.

One thing which has given some result, is just patiently wait a few months and then you with some you see their demands drop.

Ah well it is boating season, so crusing the river to the south.

Todd Cincy
05-18-14, 20:47
I like the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS).

The popularity of SA has indeed brought some girls who would never even consider escorting, and have some very inflated expectations.

But here is how it works to your advantage, gentlemen:

- The vast majority of the GPS girls will simply get frustrated and drop out. (Now tell me: How many guys in Cincinnati are going to provide anyone with lavish allowances?

- But, a certain percentage of those women (who again, were unlikely to try outright escorting) will agree to hook up for about what a standard outcall would cost here.

- Overall, SA increases the "supply" quotient of the hobby marketplace, and that works to your advantage.

- Also, I have noticed some USAG providers on SA (I won't name names). They are weakening the case of the GPS girls, by providing more straightforward services. When escorts compete with sugar babies, sugar daddies win.

- To succeed on SA, you must have some game going on. I'm a very average looking, middle aged man, but I don't come off like a pervert, and I have good people skills. I am usually able to get college girls off that site for $200. And I also get turned down a lot; that goes with the territory.

- The bad part is that it does take some work. SA isn't an option when you want company NOW, already. It functions a lot like Match or EHarmony, except that you can proposition the women, and 20 year old women will (not infrequently) respond to 45 year old men.

- Finally: Don't worry about the GPS girls. When they ask for something outrageous, just say, "no thanks" and move on. It's a numbers game at the end of the day.

BamBam
05-19-14, 09:52
I like the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS).

The popularity of SA has indeed brought some girls who would never even consider escorting, and have some very inflated expectations.

But here is how it works to your advantage, gentlemen:

- The vast majority of the GPS girls will simply get frustrated and drop out. (Now tell me: How many guys in Cincinnati are going to provide anyone with lavish allowances?

- But, a certain percentage of those women (who again, were unlikely to try outright escorting) will agree to hook up for about what a standard outcall would cost here.

- Overall, SA increases the "supply" quotient of the hobby marketplace, and that works to your advantage.

- Also, I have noticed some USAG providers on SA (I won't name names). They are weakening the case of the GPS girls, by providing more straightforward services. When escorts compete with sugar babies, sugar daddies win.

- To succeed on SA, you must have some game going on. I'm a very average looking, middle aged man, but I don't come off like a pervert, and I have good people skills. I am usually able to get college girls off that site for $200. And I also get turned down a lot; that goes with the territory.

- The bad part is that it does take some work. SA isn't an option when you want company NOW, already. It functions a lot like Match or EHarmony, except that you can proposition the women, and 20 year old women will (not infrequently) respond to 45 year old men.

- Finally: Don't worry about the GPS girls. When they ask for something outrageous, just say, "no thanks" and move on. It's a numbers game at the end of the day.This is very consistent with my experience as well...down to the same 'allowance' amount.

RB.

PillowTalk69
05-20-14, 06:12
You mean $$ to $ plus shopping, dinner etc? They better be lifetime memory dates for those prices. Or $$ to $ total for everything you spend on?The later of course WE have what they want and whether it is with a SB or escort provider or masseuse the bottom line is we set out limits they set theres and it then becomes a matter of meeting our limits based on our needs and matching it with a ladies. There are more than enough ladies to go around.

WarlockKy
05-20-14, 18:31
I like the "Golden Pussy Syndrome" (GPS). I trademarked "Golden Pussy Syndrome" and all derivatives sometime ago.

Guess I'll have to get on A2 to setup a BeerPay system. LOL.

Todd Cincy
06-01-14, 07:34
I'm going to begin this SB post by briefly praising escorts.

While some escorts are easier to contact and schedule with than others, almost all of the ladies on USAG and similar sites have a business-like attitude: They are realistic about what you want, and they specify the price you will need to pay in order to get it.

A handful of escorts have "disqualifiers" about whom they will and won't see. Discreet Desires recently featured a woman who would only see guys 45 and under. (She is no longer on the DD site, BTW.) But most escorts will see any hobbyist who is polite, hygienic, and shows no signs of mental instability.

Many sugar babies are different. A large number of SBs join Seeking Arrangements with the idea that they are going to meet George Clooney or Johnny Depp. Last winter I interacted (unsuccessfully) on Seeking Arrangements with a 19-year-old Miami University student who came from a wealthy family. (She used a close variant of her real name and I found her on Facebook.) It soon became obvious that she really didn't have any financial needs; she was on Seeking Arrangements in order to find a slightly older fantasy boyfriend: a 20-something millionaire who would whisk her away for weekends in Paris, or something like that.

Seeking Arrangements goes out of its way to market itself as a high-end *dating* site, even though most of the men on the site are, in fact, hobbyists. The result is that many sugar babies come on board with unrealistic expectations, and drop out after a few weeks.

Now, let me reiterate (see my previous posts): Seeking Arrangements is also a place where you can meet great UTR women, who are willing to part-time escort, but who don't want to leap into the USAG world with both feet. You can usually tell the serious UTR women from the fantasy boyfriend seekers by reading the profiles.

The problem, for some of you, will be that this does take time and effort. Over the span of a single 1-month Seeking Arrangements membership, I've gotten 6 or 7 solid UTR contacts, and I've also come up completely empty-handed.

I usually bounce back and forth between here and Seeking Arrangements. At present, I think the selection here is pretty good: lots of fit, younger women whose company can be had at reasonable prices. For me there is a tipping point, when the selection / price / quality combination in the escort world becomes undesirable, and at that point I go back to Seeking Arrangements.

In other words, I have found that the best strategy is to be *both* a sugar daddy and a hobbyist, depending on who is available and willing in each venue.

Snobaldone
06-04-14, 06:26
This story tells the tale of how bad things can go, if things end badly in your SB / SD relationship. If she doesn't have anything to lose, it's your ass.

From the Wausau Daily Herald, May 22,2014.

WAUSAU A Kronenwetter police officer accused of soliciting a 19-year-old prostitute paid her about $6,000 over the course of their four-month relationship for rent, gas money and other expenses, according to court records.

JR, 41, who is married and has been a police officer in Kronenwetter since July 2006, is on administrative leave from the department and is the subject of an internal investigation, Kronenwetter Police Chief DJ said this week.

JR is accused of having sexual contact with the woman on six separate occasions, including one in January that took place inside the Kronenwetter Police Department, according to a Wausau Police Department report. The woman also rode with JR in his squad car on at least one official call, the report shows.

An investigation began April 8 when the woman approached a Wausau police officer and reported she had been exchanging sex for money with a Kronenwetter police officer, according to a news release. The woman, whose name was not released, told the officer she first exchanged sex for money with JR at a home in Green Bay after JR responded to an ad for adult escort services she placed on an Internet classified site.

The woman moved to Wausau and stopped advertising for escort services because "she was making enough money" from her arrangement with JR, according to the report.

The woman told police JR was aware she was on probation at the time the sexual encounters took place. Investigators confirmed and verified details of several transactions and accessed private messages JR exchanged with the woman on Facebook, police said.

JR admitted to Wausau detectives he gave the woman money, but called her "a friend. " JR was arrested April 10 and was released on a signature bond.

Wausau police requested assistance from the Department of Criminal Investigations but the request was denied because the expected charges in the case did not rise to a felony level, according to the report.

Charges were filed May 16 in Marathon County Circuit Court. JR, who is not in custody, faces three counts of soliciting a prostitute and one count of encouraging probation violations. Langlade County District Attorney RU has been assigned to prosecute the case to avoid any conflict of interest from local prosecutors acquainted with JR.

Court dates have not yet been set.

JZLizard
06-04-14, 09:19
Knowing that any married cop that does this probably deserves whatever he gets just for being stupid enough not to foresee the career and marriage ramifications, I was wondering to myself how, from a strictly legal standpoint, they would be able to distinguish a true SD / SB arrangement from what happens in many relationships where one partner helps the other one out financially from time to time.

Then I read this part:



The woman moved to Wausau and stopped advertising for escort services because "she was making enough money" from her arrangement with JR, according to the report.So I guess the moral of the story is never flip a hooker over to an SB. They should be two different things.

This was just a backpage girl rather than a true SB.

Hairy2
06-20-14, 21:12
After many half-starts, I got a SB worth holding on to. Single mom in a bad way, attractive and in her lower 20's. I might introduce her to the site if her situation does not improve soon. Definitely not a drug user either.

NKY747
06-20-14, 23:56
Most SBs think they have gold lined psy and want a fortune to play Guys generally I have met or talked with are looking for play time not a steady woman. Ladies always have the choice as an escort to go LTR play or hourly / half but many ladies never take in the shopping options, dinner etc and women usually want "extras" with the $ options. SBs are usually nothing more than escorts with extras. Best bargains so far on the board are the 2 and three hundred overnights dinner, maybe some shopping then home for some serious no holds barred play after equipment checks. Most men are looking for high quality ladies / escorts who love it all. Men say they aren't but backchannel they are and so are ladies. It is amazing how many high end ladies on USASG are looking for natural play and have high quality reps. Most men love the feel of a woman on their business and most women love to ride their business and feel the results Just my experience. I love curling up with a woman at night doing her in many positions feeling her riding my business then spooning with her. Sometimes feeling her hands and mouth early morning waking me up for a return to bliss before the end of the overnight and depositing some serious baby batter in her to have us both leave with memories and hopefully return engagements. Most men are NOT looking for a SO or steady companion but a woman who knows how to pleasure a man COMPLETELY and wants the same from him as often as he can get it up and release. SBs are fine for men with dollars, lots of them. Me I will take a HOT HORNEY SP any day with an excellent reputation and see what we can work out. JMO FWIW. PT.In the ones that do go distance, the end can be really messy if you're the one that's throwing down the disconnect switch. I recently went through this with one and I was blamed for everything including flat tires, out of gas, you name it. Funny how quickly things got reversed back out with their situation improving in just a few short weeks.

My recorrection if I was to go through this again (and I will) will be to keep it at an arm's length, that way it never gets close or dependent on my time and effort.

MisforMaster
06-21-14, 01:33
In the ones that do go distance, the end can be really messy if you're the one that's throwing down the disconnect switch. I recently went through this with one and I was blamed for everything including flat tires, out of gas, you name it. Funny how quickly things got reversed back out with their situation improving in just a few short weeks.

My recorrection if I was to go through this again (and I will) will be to keep it at an arm's length, that way it never gets close or dependent on my time and effort.I've had an interesting mix with SB's in the cincy area. I had one experience where we were a good match on paper, but, in person, we were polar opposites. I had another match who landed up in Jail, and then had some really bad luck with a string of Heroin users. I've had local SB's try to mix me in with three or four other SD's in the area: There's nothing like being told that you're not on her appointment list because you're not giving her what her other 'daddy' is giving her, and then one SB who would blame me for the rain when the DirecTV (that I paid for) would go out when a thunderstorm would roll through.

But, as I've 'lost' a few, I've definitely 'won' a few as well -- I've got a 20 year old college student now as a SB and that works out really well for me -- it's a mix of phone calls, text messages, and snapchats throughout the week if I'm traveling, and the same assortment of calls, text messages, and snapchats if I'm at home with the added benefit of being able to call her up just about anytime for whatever play is warranted. She takes my money and shops with it; either for herself or for us (when I landed back home tonight, she had dinner waiting on me when I got home, followed by something very sexy that I know she just bought last week and some new 'hardware' on her body): all for right around $2 k / month. I'll pay for her to travel with me if she wants to (she's gone to Florida and Vegas with me a few times). Honestly, she's cheaper than a bona fide girlfriend, with the same level of emotional attachment, better sex, and less drama or bullshit (I've gained numerous ex-girlfriends from my job's stress, hours, and travel -- it seems different, but, who knows). I found this one on a website and just sat realistic expectations with her: she's happy, I'm happy, and as long as I wrap my shit up, she's happy with whatever and whoever else I want to do. Still cheaper than a bona fide girlfriend.

Natti Gfe
06-21-14, 09:38
I'm a escort and I had someone that would take me out shopping or out to eat or just to hang out but the guy moveI would love to have someone like that again I would love get close to someone an pamper me an I would take care of him I might not have much but I do have a loving heart an would be there for them at there back en call.

Love Natti / alliso.

Hairy2
06-25-14, 20:23
After many half-starts, I got a SB worth holding on to. Single mom in a bad way, attractive and in her lower 20's. I might introduce her to the site if her situation does not improve soon. Definitely not a drug user either.I suggested the opportunity for her to improve her situation, and she did not feel the risk / reward worked in her favor. Lucky me, I am the only supplement to her income (and sole supplier of a special pro biotic nutritional supplement).

NKY747
07-17-14, 00:46
I'm a escort and I had someone that would take me out shopping or out to eat or just to hang out but the guy moveI would love to have someone like that again I would love get close to someone an pamper me an I would take care of him I might not have much but I do have a loving heart an would be there for them at there back en call.

Love Natti / alliso.I took that as very genuine Natti. Very nice looking woman as well, in my area too. .


I've had an interesting mix with SB's in the cincy area. I had one experience where we were a good match on paper, but, in person, we were polar opposites. I had another match who landed up in Jail, and then had some really bad luck with a string of Heroin users. I've had local SB's try to mix me in with three or four other SD's in the area: There's nothing like being told that you're not on her appointment list because you're not giving her what her other 'daddy' is giving her, and then one SB who would blame me for the rain when the DirecTV (that I paid for) would go out when a thunderstorm would roll through.

But, as I've 'lost' a few, I've definitely 'won' a few as well -- I've got a 20 year old college student now as a SB and that works out really well for me -- it's a mix of phone calls, text messages, and snapchats throughout the week if I'm traveling, and the same assortment of calls, text messages, and snapchats if I'm at home with the added benefit of being able to call her up just about anytime for whatever play is warranted. She takes my money and shops with it; either for herself or for us (when I landed back home tonight, she had dinner waiting on me when I got home, followed by something very sexy that I know she just bought last week and some new 'hardware' on her body): all for right around $2 k / month. I'll pay for her to travel with me if she wants to (she's gone to Florida and Vegas with me a few times). Honestly, she's cheaper than a bona fide girlfriend, with the same level of emotional attachment, better sex, and less drama or bullshit (I've gained numerous ex-girlfriends from my job's stress, hours, and travel -- it seems different, but, who knows). I found this one on a website and just sat realistic expectations with her: she's happy, I'm happy, and as long as I wrap my shit up, she's happy with whatever and whoever else I want to do. Still cheaper than a bona fide girlfriend.Great reply. I was working on a 20 year old months ago, felt right, looked right, sounded right. Output didn't match input. Crisis mode that there was no toilet paper in the house, now 'that's' a problem.

The best $60 ever spent was the money I lent, never heard from her again. Not a bad looking woman but she was aiming too high too fast and the dividends were few and far between. I needed her like an unhealed wound, know there's decent ones out there to enjoy.

Tcoupe
08-07-14, 09:45
I'm a escort and I had someone that would take me out shopping or out to eat or just to hang out but the guy moveI would love to have someone like that again I would love get close to someone an pamper me an I would take care of him I might not have much but I do have a loving heart an would be there for them at there back en call.

Love Natti / alliso.I wish I was I was a baller.

MisforMaster
08-11-14, 16:03
Someone mentioned to me that he wanted to be a Sugar Daddy, but didn't really know where to look or what to look for, so, I wanted to take a few minutes and craft up a guide to those who are interested in this aspect of the lifestyle.

The first thing that you'll really need to look at is the amount of money that you're willing to spend. My general rule of thumb is between 10-20% of your take home pay. I'm a firm believer of two things: 1.) A SugarDaddy isn't a replacement for a job, and 2.) that your ideal SB is going to get a mixture of cash and gifts from you. Let's say you're making 200 K / year, and after Uncle Sam and everyone else gets their cut, you're bringing home $150 K. When you break that down, your SB "Allowance" is 22 K / year (or $1875/ month). I then try to take it a step further and try to split it 60/40 cash / expenses.

I try to avoid monthly arrangements -- it's risky for both you as well as the girl. I've also hit Paypal's Anti Money Laundering (and my Bank's own AML) list twice in the last two months; if I were to do a new sugarbaby it would be on a prepaid debit card that's in her name, and I'd just remotely load it from cash. Paypal will 1099-K you if you're depositing more than 10 K a year in their accounts, and I've been audited before from my SugarBaby 'donations' and it just turned into a headache (for both me as well as the girl).

SugarBabies are generally bad with managing their money -- it's ok to get them the occasional fancy gift, but, it makes much more sense to be practical. In the last year, I've bought laptops for school, car repairs, shoes, gift certificates to Express, and flowers for when they're having a bad day. A coach purse doesn't matter if she can't get her car started to come and see you.

Ultimately, you'll need to figure out what you're really looking for in a girl. If you're just looking for sex, get an escort (seriously, guys, isn't that why most of us are here? Your SugarBaby is going to be anywhere between a FWB and a serious girlfriend. Some will want to meet up once a week, some will want you to spend all week with them. Be honest with yourself, figure out what you're looking for, and go out for it.

Finding SugarBabies isn't that hard -- however, where you find them is usually a good indicator of what's going to happen. I've found out that CraigsList is probably the worst -- I've had girls quote me 6-10 K / month for two dinners and no overnights -- however, your mileage may vary. I've had relatively good luck with the one major Sugar Daddy website and the $60/ month fee netted me 84 different emails / phone numbers, and I ended up meeting / having dinner dates with 22 of them. I'm not saying that I'm George Clooney, but I like to think of myself as a semi-attractive guy, but, generally speaking, paying for more than a month is probably overkill if you're doing it right.

Try to ignore all of the "online" stuff. If all you need is a girl to chat with you via text / skype / kik or whatever, just go to a camsite -- you'll get exactly what you're looking for and generally at a fraction of the cost.

Also, stay away from the blogs and other sources online -- there are plenty of girls online who claim that they're bringing home 20 K a month from two different guys -- or guys who are claiming that they have five or ten SB's: they are gross exaggerations at best, but generally fake or driving traffic to a scummy website the rest of the time.

Don't ever give a girl money or a gift without coming to an agreement. Reiterate that in email and make sure that she's comfortable with everything. If she wants $1000 or however much to meetup to see if you're "real" or "serious," say no and move on to the next one. Don't be that asshole and take one for a "test drive," that makes you a really shitty person, and a scummy SugarDaddy. Ideally, I like to get the arrangement on the table before having the meetup, and try to get a feeling on whatever chemistry is out there as well. If she's not willing to say, or there isn't some chemistry, say no, and move on to the next one. It's perfectly normal to negotiate -- I start low and let her go higher -- I think that's how the game works best. Always meet in public: I've discovered that nice dinners are a great meetup places because she can dress up a bit (and you can gauge how serious she is about it -- if she looks like white trash when you go out someplace nice, you can say no and move on to the next one who would appreciate that a little more), you can grab a wine, and have a nice dinner with great conversation. I try to limit most meetups to a small kiss or something appropriate for the situation. You'll find out that you'll hit it off with some girls, and others not so much -- just like normal dating -- don't say insulting things, and don't take anything to heart; just move on.

If all you want is just sex, find an escort (god knows we have plenty of them in Cincy! But, sex is a part of an arrangement even if you don't like to acknowledge it. Don't expect to jump into bed with her on your first date, and if you want to have fun and good sex, you'll want to be comfortable with each other. Don't schedule it nor make it seem like a formality.

If you have any questions, or need advice, please let me know.

Todd Cincy
08-12-14, 19:55
Thanks. This is a great topic that we need more information about.

Here is my situation: I *am* looking for sex, not a quasi-girlfriend. While the quality of escorts has improved in recent years, I have high-end tastes. I'm really only interested in around 20% of the ladies who show up on USAG. I don't like rough types, middle-aged women, or overweights. I don't like incalls in sketchy parts of town. That weeds out a lot of the escorts for me.

I'm also reasonably good looking and fit, without being George Clooney. I'm in my mid-40's, far too old to be "boyfriend material" for most of these ladies.

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

There are many variables here, of course, but a sugar baby should not involve a monumental amount of money. Keep in mind, this is Gen why we're talking about, the "hook up" generation. Be polite and be a gentleman, but don't even think about promising someone a monthly allowance. (I always go pay-per-visit.).

My observation: over half of the women join Seeking Arrangements with unrealistic expectations, and end up dropping out in a few weeks or months. But there are definitely women who are willing to deal, who have fewer lifestyle issues and less mileage than the typical Backpage escort.

SBs are also *legal* I should add. This makes a huge difference to me.




Ultimately, you'll need to figure out what you're really looking for in a girl. If you're just looking for sex, get an escort (seriously, guys, isn't that why most of us are here? Your SugarBaby is going to be anywhere between a FWB and a serious girlfriend. Some will want to meet up once a week, some will want you to spend all week with them. Be honest with yourself, figure out what you're looking for, and go out for it.

Finding SugarBabies isn't that hard -- however, where you find them is usually a good indicator of what's going to happen. I've found out that CraigsList is probably the worst -- I've had girls quote me 6-10 K / month for two dinners and no overnights -- however, your mileage may vary.

If all you want is just sex, find an escort (god knows we have plenty of them in Cincy! But, sex is a part of an arrangement even if you don't like to acknowledge it. Don't expect to jump into bed with her on your first date, and if you want to have fun and good sex, you'll want to be comfortable with each other. Don't schedule it nor make it seem like a formality.

If you have any questions, or need advice, please let me know.

MisforMaster
08-13-14, 00:15
My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.It's been my experience that if you're back to per-meeting math, you're going to get girls who flake out on you a lot sooner than the weekly / monthly girls or girls who have drug problems. I'm not going to name names, but I've had a few girls in the last year indicate that they're interested in exploring a different kind of arrangement, only to discover that their priorities involve Heroin and a needle.

HollywoodGuy
08-13-14, 00:33
Thanks. This is a great topic that we need more information about.

Here is my situation: I *am* looking for sex, not a quasi-girlfriend. While the quality of escorts has improved in recent years, I have high-end tastes. I'm really only interested in around 20% of the ladies who show up on USAG. I don't like rough types, middle-aged women, or overweights. I don't like incalls in sketchy parts of town. That weeds out a lot of the escorts for me.

I'm also reasonably good looking and fit, without being George Clooney. I'm in my mid-40's, far too old to be "boyfriend material" for most of these ladies.

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

There are many variables here, of course, but a sugar baby should not involve a monumental amount of money. Keep in mind, this is Gen why we're talking about, the "hook up" generation. Be polite and be a gentleman, but don't even think about promising someone a monthly allowance. (I always go pay-per-visit.).

My observation: over half of the women join Seeking Arrangements with unrealistic expectations, and end up dropping out in a few weeks or months. But there are definitely women who are willing to deal, who have fewer lifestyle issues and less mileage than the typical Backpage escort.

SBs are also *legal* I should add. This makes a huge difference to me.How about $ per meet? Any girl will fuck you $$.5. But only a girl that is really into you (or desperate) will take the $. Either way you win.

Cheech1
08-15-14, 11:04
Personally, I think the best way is to find a girl who will give you the time you ask for in return for you paying certain bills. Like the rent, utilities, and keeping the apartment stocked with food. Her apartment. Keep the lease in her name, the utilities in her name. So you have a basic expense of maybe a grand or $1200 a month. After that it becomes a matter of reward for better performance. So maybe you see her twice a week for the basic expense you are laying out. If she takes care of business, get her gift cards to buy clothes. Stock the place with some good liquor. A little spending cash. But, keep track. Is the liquor all gone when you stop by? Does she have new clothes to account for what you gave her? The point is you have some control over what's going on. Sure she can see other guys and make extra money. But, is she keeping clean? Is she always available for your pleasure, usually with notice?

Now, if she's not walking the walk, you can exercise your control. Stop paying the electric, the gas, the rent. The point is to keep control of what you're doing, not that you have her on a leash, but that you get what you're paying for.

Cheech.

DickHerDown
08-15-14, 17:36
Thanks. This is a great topic that we need more information about.

Here is my situation: I *am* looking for sex, not a quasi-girlfriend. While the quality of escorts has improved in recent years, I have high-end tastes. I'm really only interested in around 20% of the ladies who show up on USAG. I don't like rough types, middle-aged women, or overweights. I don't like incalls in sketchy parts of town. That weeds out a lot of the escorts for me.

I'm also reasonably good looking and fit, without being George Clooney. I'm in my mid-40's, far too old to be "boyfriend material" for most of these ladies.

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

There are many variables here, of course, but a sugar baby should not involve a monumental amount of money. Keep in mind, this is Gen why we're talking about, the "hook up" generation. Be polite and be a gentleman, but don't even think about promising someone a monthly allowance. (I always go pay-per-visit.).

My observation: over half of the women join Seeking Arrangements with unrealistic expectations, and end up dropping out in a few weeks or months. But there are definitely women who are willing to deal, who have fewer lifestyle issues and less mileage than the typical Backpage escort.

SBs are also *legal* I should add. This makes a huge difference to me.I'm looking for something similar but it's very hard to find. I'm like you, in the fact that I don't like fat chicks, girls who stay in nasty motels, or drug users. The problem with most girls you'll find on this site is that there lives are incredibly fucked up. They can't rent an apartment or buy a car because their credit is awful and they have no way to prove their income. They typically have criminal records and never plan on getting a real job. Hell, think about the last time you're phone was turned off or you had "phone trouble" LOL. Happens to most providers daily. If that's the case, having an apt, paying utilities and such is way more than most can handle. I do agree that 2. 50 is way too much per visit. Of course the girl will have to be attracted to the daddy and the $ for this to work. Anyway, I'll continue to keep my eyes open for that perfect sugar baby.

Dr Kenneth W
08-26-14, 14:42
Fellow mongers, a friend recently decided to experiment with a website dedicated to SB / SD relationships. It was pretty easy to find some ladies in need of help with bills. He found a lady in Western Hills that was so appreciative for a few bucks for car insurance that she let him abuse her mouth for a BBBJCIM. Now this lady is not going to win any beauty contests, but she does have a nice rack and is clean and some may even find her attractive if they are in to long hair and curves. She is mid 30's. She is willing to share pics. Her mouth was very soft and she could deep throat pretty well apparently, and the boys also were not left out of the action. She was willing to invite him over to her apartment, but he opted to drive to a large nearby park and have her go to town in the back seat. His favorite part was how she did not object to him bouncing her head up and down on his shaft like a basketball, and he is above average girth and length. She gagged a couple of times but my friend likes that. My friend believes that she is willing to be a CFS girl, because she does like to talk about how kinky she is, but he just wanted to abuse her mouth.

He received direct permission today to share digits because she could use some more help on some projects. Trusted seniors, if you are interested in the UTR types and are like my friend you can PM me for digits.

Kystud
08-29-14, 19:56
I am a older gentleman looking for a sugar baby relationship looking for one lady to spoil and see regular if this interest anyone please message me.

Zeotch2
09-09-14, 15:45
I am a older gentleman looking for a sugar baby relationship looking for one lady to spoil and see regular if this interest anyone please message me.I've been fortunate and found a few college students via Craigslist who were willing to enter an SB / SD relationship on a per-meeting basis.

EuroInCincy
09-12-14, 08:42
I've been fortunate and found a few college students via Craigslist who were willing to enter an SB / SD relationship on a per-meeting basis.Have not found much game with Craigslist, but SA is like shooting fish in the barrel. Just avoid the GPS's.

MisforMaster
09-22-14, 03:11
Have not found much game with Craigslist, but SA is like shooting fish in the barrel. Just avoid the GPS's.I'll second that comment -- SA is unlike anything I've seen in terms of getting women to reach out to you. Unfortunately, I've had girls from Youngstown and Chicago message me, along with girls who say they're from Cincinnati but write that they're ('an hour away') {read: Louisville}.

Unfortunately, it seems like most of the girls on SA don't really understand how these 'arrangements' work. This isn't whatsyourprice or USASG where you're paying for a date, but the minute you give most of these girls the money, the run for the hills never to be seen again.

Oh well, I just write it off as the COGS and move onto the next one.

Mbgbe696
10-06-14, 20:24
I'm looking for something similar but it's very hard to find. I'm like you, in the fact that I don't like fat chicks, girls who stay in nasty motels, or drug users. The problem with most girls you'll find on this site is that there lives are incredibly fucked up. They can't rent an apartment or buy a car because their credit is awful and they have no way to prove their income. They typically have criminal records and never plan on getting a real job. Hell, think about the last time you're phone was turned off or you had "phone trouble" LOL. Happens to most providers daily. If that's the case, having an apt, paying utilities and such is way more than most can handle. I do agree that 2. 50 is way too much per visit. Of course the girl will have to be attracted to the daddy and the $ for this to work. Anyway, I'll continue to keep my eyes open for that perfect sugar baby.I was driving through a town up north that I work in, there was a attractive girl in her 20's begging for money, I stopped and talked to her and told her there was another way for help, I said a sugar daddy / baby relationship and gave her my email. Later that evening she email me and said she was interested. Today we met at a public restaurant and discussed it and agreed to give it a try. What I want to say is there are other ways to meet girls for a SD / SB relationship.

SoiCowboy100
10-07-14, 19:59
Can I have the sugar daddy website you used?


Someone mentioned to me that he wanted to be a Sugar Daddy, but didn't really know where to look or what to look for, so, I wanted to take a few minutes and craft up a guide to those who are interested in this aspect of the lifestyle.

The first thing that you'll really need to look at is the amount of money that you're willing to spend. My general rule of thumb is between 10-20% of your take home pay. I'm a firm believer of two things: 1.) A SugarDaddy isn't a replacement for a job, and 2.) that your ideal SB is going to get a mixture of cash and gifts from you. Let's say you're making 200 K / year, and after Uncle Sam and everyone else gets their cut, you're bringing home $150 K. When you break that down, your SB "Allowance" is 22 K / year (or $1875/ month). I then try to take it a step further and try to split it 60/40 cash / expenses.

I try to avoid monthly arrangements -- it's risky for both you as well as the girl. I've also hit Paypal's Anti Money Laundering (and my Bank's own AML) list twice in the last two months; if I were to do a new sugarbaby it would be on a prepaid debit card that's in her name, and I'd just remotely load it from cash. Paypal will 1099-K you if you're depositing more than 10 K a year in their accounts, and I've been audited before from my SugarBaby 'donations' and it just turned into a headache (for both me as well as the girl).

SugarBabies are generally bad with managing their money -- it's ok to get them the occasional fancy gift, but, it makes much more sense to be practical. In the last year, I've bought laptops for school, car repairs, shoes, gift certificates to Express, and flowers for when they're having a bad day. A coach purse doesn't matter if she can't get her car started to come and see you.

Ultimately, you'll need to figure out what you're really looking for in a girl. If you're just looking for sex, get an escort (seriously, guys, isn't that why most of us are here? Your SugarBaby is going to be anywhere between a FWB and a serious girlfriend. Some will want to meet up once a week, some will want you to spend all week with them. Be honest with yourself, figure out what you're looking for, and go out for it.

Finding SugarBabies isn't that hard -- however, where you find them is usually a good indicator of what's going to happen. I've found out that CraigsList is probably the worst -- I've had girls quote me 6-10 K / month for two dinners and no overnights -- however, your mileage may vary. I've had relatively good luck with the one major Sugar Daddy website and the $60/ month fee netted me 84 different emails / phone numbers, and I ended up meeting / having dinner dates with 22 of them. I'm not saying that I'm George Clooney, but I like to think of myself as a semi-attractive guy, but, generally speaking, paying for more than a month is probably overkill if you're doing it right.

Try to ignore all of the "online" stuff. If all you need is a girl to chat with you via text / skype / kik or whatever, just go to a camsite -- you'll get exactly what you're looking for and generally at a fraction of the cost.

Also, stay away from the blogs and other sources online -- there are plenty of girls online who claim that they're bringing home 20 K a month from two different guys -- or guys who are claiming that they have five or ten SB's: they are gross exaggerations at best, but generally fake or driving traffic to a scummy website the rest of the time.

Don't ever give a girl money or a gift without coming to an agreement. Reiterate that in email and make sure that she's comfortable with everything. If she wants $1000 or however much to meetup to see if you're "real" or "serious," say no and move on to the next one. Don't be that asshole and take one for a "test drive," that makes you a really shitty person, and a scummy SugarDaddy. Ideally, I like to get the arrangement on the table before having the meetup, and try to get a feeling on whatever chemistry is out there as well. If she's not willing to say, or there isn't some chemistry, say no, and move on to the next one. It's perfectly normal to negotiate -- I start low and let her go higher -- I think that's how the game works best. Always meet in public: I've discovered that nice dinners are a great meetup places because she can dress up a bit (and you can gauge how serious she is about it -- if she looks like white trash when you go out someplace nice, you can say no and move on to the next one who would appreciate that a little more), you can grab a wine, and have a nice dinner with great conversation. I try to limit most meetups to a small kiss or something appropriate for the situation. You'll find out that you'll hit it off with some girls, and others not so much -- just like normal dating -- don't say insulting things, and don't take anything to heart; just move on.

If all you want is just sex, find an escort (god knows we have plenty of them in Cincy! But, sex is a part of an arrangement even if you don't like to acknowledge it. Don't expect to jump into bed with her on your first date, and if you want to have fun and good sex, you'll want to be comfortable with each other. Don't schedule it nor make it seem like a formality.

If you have any questions, or need advice, please let me know.

MisforMaster
10-08-14, 00:12
Can I have the sugar daddy website you used?Out of respect to A2, I won't post it on here, but, if you're interested and need pointers on where to look, you can message me.

MM.

Kystud
10-11-14, 09:28
My search for a sugar baby is over I have found one just took a little time and patience but my search for a sugar baby is over thanks to all that shared info and stuff on this subject.

Mbgbe696
01-04-15, 20:38
I have found an awesome SB, so I will take my leave and be her now. I will follow and advise if needed. Thanks to all the great men on this site, who have advised me and shared info. All be safe.

ChickaAmante
01-30-15, 05:03
If anyone of you lucky folks, who have their personal SB arrangement and all but would like to have additional trusted sr members to keep your SB's needs met, I just wanted you to know, I am here, LOL.

Ending my shameless plug here by saying that I'm picky myself and been trying my luck on SA.

CA.

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Kybob
02-07-15, 18:38
I found my SB on SA. I also tried SD4 ME but had mixed results. I found that these girls can be put into a few categories. One, they are veteran SBs and know exactly what they want and what they will do for it. They are up front and direct, and will tell you exactly how much they want per visit / week / month and what they will do and won't do. I've had these girls tell me $500 for any time. Coffee, sex, dinner, movie, whatever. Anything and everything will cost. I avoid this category. You'll see why. Second, they are an escort. SA and SD4 ME have turned into the new CL or BP for the working ladies. They will be up front about the pay for play. They will ask to meet in a hotel and will tell you $200 per hour. Simple. I avoid this category too. If I wanted a *****, I wouldn't be online at a SD / SB website. The third category and my personal favorite is the complete noob. She has no idea what to ask for or how the relationship works. That works totally in your favor. Just don't be a dick, and she'll be eating out of your palm in no time.

My first SB asked for $1000 a month allowance, and wanted it all up front. We went on a date, had a great time, and ended up at my place. She was 21, I'm 47. We made out like we were in high school, and I sucked on those tits before she told me she was having her period but we could fuck the next week. Never saw her again. She disappeared with my $1000. The second girl I met, and I still see, is also 21, very cute, and has an amazing body. I offered her $800 a month but $200 per week and she will only receive money after we have our time together. She's totally cool with that. I see her 2-3 times per week and we fuck like rabbits whenever we see each other. Never used a condom, and I creampie that tight pussy every time I see her. I eventually brought her home to my girlfriend and the 3 of us have been having fun ever since, although my gf just likes to watch. On the side, I met another girl on SA. 18, and fresh out of high school. Mixed race, very cute with an amazing body. Complete noob. She never asked for a dime, but I gave her $200 every time we met up just to be cool. We only fucked a few times, but again total bareback no condom, creampie every time. On our third and final visit, I asked to fuck her in the ass and she told me she'd never done that before but was willing to try. I lubed her up and popped her ass cherry. After that, I simply didn't have enough money to keep her going and my regular SB, so I dropped her. In the meantime, I've had multiple girls who email me through SA or SD4 ME and want to meet. I've met 4 other local Cincy girls, all hot, all 18-21, and I fucked each and every one. Some simply ask for dinner, some ask for a little money, and some give it up in the hope I'll be their permanent SD. I even went to North Carolina for 5 days to visit a friend, and while there contacted about 20 girls in the Raleigh area through SA. I met 4 girls and fucked every one. The most it cost me for each was dinner.

The key for me is to weed through the pros, the veterans, and the ******. There are TONS of very naive, very desperate chicks on these web sites. I've literally emailed about 200 chicks, and I think I've been very successful meeting the noobs. Once you get a feel for it, you'll be tapping hot pussy left and right. Some may read my description and think, damn this guy is harsh taking advantage of these girls, but hey I'm not looking to give away my money or save every girl down on her luck. I'm looking to get laid, and whether through the SB / SD websites or at the bar, makes no difference to me. I'm actually about to head out now and fuck my regular. Be safe fellas.

Kystud
02-08-15, 09:20
I looking for a regular sugar baby is there sites that are best for looking for a sugarbaby any info would be greatly appreciateed.

Kybob
02-08-15, 14:57
I looking for a regular sugar baby is there sites that are best for looking for a sugarbaby any info would be greatly appreciateed.Google "sugar baby sugar daddy websites". There are tons. The best I've found are Seeking Arrangement (SA) and Sugar Daddy For Me (SD4 ME).

EuroInCincy
03-03-15, 12:08
A great blog post.

http://goforthecruise.com/sugarbaby-dating-guide/

TriOval
03-18-15, 16:25
I will tell you, this has been a week. I have been a member of SA for exactly one week. And I have met 2 girls intimately, (really intimately) and have 4 sets of nudes emailed to me from prospective SBs. I am f'king another tomorrow, and if she is as hot as her naked pictures, and what she says she is into, you won't see my fat ass around here too much. I think a winning structure is 200 the first meet, 150 the second and third meets per month, and one freebie for the fourth. 500/ month. Included are casual lunches, drinks, ball games. Many are jumping at that offer. The number of single moms out there, trolling SA seems to be uncountable.

It has been stated below you have to take your time and weed out the pros, and hood rats, and the 20 yo college gals that think they are all that and want the big dough, which is spot on. Hell I turned down a smokin hot 19 YO just yesterday. And she would have probably done the first sesh free. You can skin a cat over and over, but only kill him once, and if you have the experience here, guys have the leverage to negotiate.

I am telling you guys and gals, the times are a changing. This business model is what I have been looking for for a while. If you can work a deal for every other month. You get two hotties and switch off.

MisforMaster
03-19-15, 10:50
I will tell you, this has been a week. I have been a member of SA for exactly one week. And I have met 2 girls intimately, (really intimately) and have 4 sets of nudes emailed to me from prospective SBs. I am f'king another tomorrow, and if she is as hot as her naked pictures, and what she says she is into, you won't see my fat ass around here too much. I think a winning structure is 200 the first meet, 150 the second and third meets per month, and one freebie for the fourth. 500/ month. Included are casual lunches, drinks, ball games. Many are jumping at that offer. The number of single moms out there, trolling SA seems to be uncountable.

It has been stated below you have to take your time and weed out the pros, and hood rats, and the 20 yo college gals that think they are all that and want the big dough, which is spot on. Hell I turned down a smokin hot 19 YO just yesterday. And she would have probably done the first sesh free. You can skin a cat over and over, but only kill him once, and if you have the experience here, guys have the leverage to negotiate.

I am telling you guys and gals, the times are a changing. This business model is what I have been looking for for a while. If you can work a deal for every other month. You get two hotties and switch off.SA is like shooting fish in a barrel. Just be careful -- there are a lot of flakes and chicks who will just waste your time or try to get their fangs in you.

SantaClause
04-27-15, 20:48
I will tell you, this has been a week. I have been a member of SA for exactly one week. And I have met 2 girls intimately, (really intimately) and have 4 sets of nudes emailed to me from prospective SBs. I am f'king another tomorrow, and if she is as hot as her naked pictures, and what she says she is into, you won't see my fat ass around here too much. I think a winning structure is 200 the first meet, 150 the second and third meets per month, and one freebie for the fourth. 500/ month. Included are casual lunches, drinks, ball games. Many are jumping at that offer. The number of single moms out there, trolling SA seems to be uncountable.

It has been stated below you have to take your time and weed out the pros, and hood rats, and the 20 yo college gals that think they are all that and want the big dough, which is spot on. Hell I turned down a smokin hot 19 YO just yesterday. And she would have probably done the first sesh free. You can skin a cat over and over, but only kill him once, and if you have the experience here, guys have the leverage to negotiate.

I am telling you guys and gals, the times are a changing. This business model is what I have been looking for for a while. If you can work a deal for every other month. You get two hotties and switch off.What do you think about the Diamond Membership. I've heard this gives you a leg up over dudes with the Basic membership, and girls will give free sessions. I'm thinking if I can get just 10 free sessions over the course of a year it will pay itself off.

EuroInCincy
04-29-15, 11:00
What do you think about the Diamond Membership. I've heard this gives you a leg up over dudes with the Basic membership, and girls will give free sessions. I'm thinking if I can get just 10 free sessions over the course of a year it will pay itself off.Why would you try to get something for nothing. It ruins it for all involved. Be a man and spoil.

Babelover77
04-30-15, 07:35
Why would you try to get something for nothing. It ruins it for all involved. Be a man and spoil.Let me get this right. SClause is saying the membership gets you free sessions? Why and how?

And ECincy says, if you do get free, be a man and spend anyway. Why? LOL.

SantaClause
05-01-15, 20:19
Instead of paying month by month, to achieve Diamond status, you pay a lump sum for the entire year. The rationale is that only a Rich Guy would have that type of money at his disposal.

Whenever girls on the site report going on dates w / fakers, SA's default response is "only go on dates with Diamond members".

ECincy has a good point. But then again, at the other side of the spectrum you have guys OD'ing with generosity. Booking flights for the girls, taking them on shopping sprees (on top of the agreed upon rate). So taking advantage of Diamond status would only normalize things.

I think it would be interesting if 3 or 4 of us come together and pitch in for a diamond account. Anyone with me?

BamBam
05-02-15, 09:37
Instead of paying month by month, to achieve Diamond status, you pay a lump sum for the entire year. The rationale is that only a Rich Guy would have that type of money at his disposal.

Whenever girls on the site report going on dates w / fakers, SA's default response is "only go on dates with Diamond members".

ECincy has a good point. But then again, at the other side of the spectrum you have guys OD'ing with generosity. Booking flights for the girls, taking them on shopping sprees (on top of the agreed upon rate). So taking advantage of Diamond status would only normalize things.

I think it would be interesting if 3 or 4 of us come together and pitch in for a diamond account. Anyone with me?I don't see how this would work? How would you split the POT's?

MisforMaster
05-02-15, 11:07
I don't see how this would work? How would you split the POT's?I've *had* a diamond account on SA for the last year. The only thing that the diamond account really does is it gives you a way to pay for a year at a time and then they do some stupid 'identity verification' on you -- my guess is so that you can't chargeback the thing on your credit card -- and then you get the little badge / icon near your name.

It's. Not anywhere as glamorous as SA makes it out to be, and in all of the time that I've been on SA, I've only had one girl (who was a complete fucking trainwreck, mind you) come after me because I had the diamond.

Also, nothing good in this life is free. And that includes SA pussy.

MM.

EuroInCincy
05-05-15, 09:16
Let me get this right. SClause is saying the membership gets you free sessions? Why and how?

And ECincy says, if you do get free, be a man and spend anyway. Why? LOL.A SB does not really give it for free. They expect a reward. The next time it is not free. So you move on and that leaves the SB jaded and. The next guy has to deal with the attitude that everybody on sa wants it for free. Rad the profiles and you can pretty much tell which SB trusted a potential SD and did it for 'free' this way just ruins the hunting grounds.

MisforMaster
05-06-15, 15:19
A SB does not really give it for free. They expect a reward. The next time it is not free. So you move on and that leaves the SB jaded and. The next guy has to deal with the attitude that everybody on sa wants it for free. Rad the profiles and you can pretty much tell which SB trusted a potential SD and did it for 'free' this way just ruins the hunting grounds.Unfortunately, I've had it from both sides of the fence.

I've had the girls who have been burned so many times they're cautious. In situations like those, I'll generally give them enough $$ for gas, babysitter, and all of that fun stuff in the beginning, but, not really what I'd consider "sugaring. " If they haven't done anything by the second or third date, then I generally won't have another one with them and just cut off all contact.

For the girls who then say that they don't want to have sex with their SugarDaddy, my response is generally:

"I'm really sorry -- I'm not comfortable giving women I don't know money unless I'm completely convinced that they're going to be my Sugar Baby. I don't want to be taken advantage of when there are so many women who are comfortable with my requests. ".

The reality is (and I believe that I've mentioned this in my post) is that if you're the type of SD who wants to "kick the tires" for free to see if your SB is a right fit for you, then just go see an escort. We have plenty of them in Cincinnati who are amazingly great. I honestly don't want to deal with the crazy girls (and in one case, their inane brothers) who have been burned and who want unrealistic things, and I'm sure that the girls don't necessarily want to deal with guys who don't want to pay.

MM.

EuroInCincy
05-09-15, 22:11
Unfortunately, I've had it from both sides of the fence.
The reality is (and I believe that I've mentioned this in my post) is that if you're the type of SD who wants to "kick the tires" for free to see if your SB is a right fit for you, then just go see an escort. We have plenty of them in Cincinnati who are amazingly great. I honestly don't want to deal with the crazy girls (and in one case, their inane brothers) who have been burned and who want unrealistic things, and I'm sure that the girls don't necessarily want to deal with guys who don't want to pay.

MM.Fully agree. It is much better to share info, as I have done in the past with a few here, by making our own private blog with the real info about the sb's we encounter.

Look Big
06-11-15, 18:05
I have a possible sugar baby. Don't really know how to go about it, she sent me a pic looks TGTBT but wishful thinking has me ready to meet her. But she needs 2000 to take care of something. I know I can't give it all to her up front. But don't know how I should go about it. Any info would be great thanks.

Bocintibean
06-13-15, 10:11
I looking for a regular sugar baby.

WithRespect
06-13-15, 10:16
I have a possible sugar baby. Don't really know how to go about it, she sent me a pic looks TGTBT but wishful thinking has me ready to meet her. But she needs 2000 to take care of something. I know I can't give it all to her up front. But don't know how I should go about it. Any info would be great thanks.Do not do that man! There are nice girls out there that want to be Sugarbabies, and they don't ask for $2000.00 up front like that.

Cincyfunguy
06-13-15, 12:30
I have a possible sugar baby. Don't really know how to go about it, she sent me a pic looks TGTBT but wishful thinking has me ready to meet her. But she needs 2000 to take care of something. I know I can't give it all to her up front. But don't know how I should go about it. Any info would be great thanks.Are you saying that you would actually CONSIDER giving upwards of 2,000 to someone you don't know, and even already suspect as someone TGTBT? Seriously?

BamBam
06-13-15, 14:58
I have a possible sugar baby. Don't really know how to go about it, she sent me a pic looks TGTBT but wishful thinking has me ready to meet her. But she needs 2000 to take care of something. I know I can't give it all to her up front. But don't know how I should go about it. Any info would be great thanks.I wish we all could share more info here. It might help us cut down on the number of flakes, etc we run into. To help you assess this situation, you should offer a bit more info. Can you tell us which website you used to meet her? You don't have to share a link but you might also consider sharing a photo. A lot of the women on SA, SD4 Me, etc use multiple profiles. One of us might have encountered her before.

In my experience, and I will bet it is true for most men here, when the SB asks for money right up front, a big warning sign goes off. They are either a ripoff or nando1 neither of which you want to get involved with. Good luck brother.

BAM.

Look Big
06-13-15, 16:47
No I'm not considering giving her 2000 up front. Never had a Sb so I'm looking for info on how it generally works. If its gift per visit it doesn't seem to be any different than any other encounter. And yes pics seem TGTBT but I'm not wiring / sending her anything so that part will work it's self out.


Are you saying that you would actually CONSIDER giving upwards of 2,000 to someone you don't know, and even already suspect as someone TGTBT? Seriously?.

MisforMaster
06-13-15, 17:03
I have a possible sugar baby. Don't really know how to go about it, she sent me a pic looks TGTBT but wishful thinking has me ready to meet her. But she needs 2000 to take care of something. I know I can't give it all to her up front. But don't know how I should go about it. Any info would be great thanks.Look.

I'd have to sit and question why I'd want to spend 2 K on something. Let alone a piece of girl from SA.

I'm not telling you "don't do that," because, well, we're men and we're stubborn.

With that said, follow my simple checklist: 1.) does her initial email seem like a form email? 2.) Do her pictures come back on tineye or others? 3.) Does the name she give me and her phone number match up? 4.) is she hiding her relationship status on facebook? 5.) is there a constant stream of drama from her?

If the answer to ANY of the above is yes, drop all contact and move elsewhere. Period.

Look Big
06-13-15, 17:15
Haven't asked for her facebook thanks that was helpful.


Look.

I'd have to sit and question why I'd want to spend 2 K on something. Let alone a piece of girl from SA.

I'm not telling you "don't do that," because, well, we're men and we're stubborn.

With that said, follow my simple checklist: 1.) does her initial email seem like a form email? 2.) Do her pictures come back on tineye or others? 3.) Does the name she give me and her phone number match up? 4.) is she hiding her relationship status on facebook? 5.) is there a constant stream of drama from her?

If the answer to ANY of the above is yes, drop all contact and move elsewhere. Period..

BamBam
06-15-15, 15:05
I just ended an exchange with a POT on SA using the profile title Red. She does not show when I search for her name. She approached me. Here is an attempt at a link.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4ab6498/view?conversation-inbox

She said her name was Kate and she gave me her number. PM if you want to know what it is. Neither number nor pics returned any hits. She wants $500/ date but will take $200. Two things triggered my spidey sense: 1) she mentioned sex and money in the same text message and later did the same in a PM. 2) She refuses to meet in a public place. Instead, she insisted on having the first meeting at my place or a hotel.

If you are chatting with her, be very. Very careful.

BAM.

Big Sug
06-15-15, 18:43
So I took the SA leap for a month to see if anything good happened. Holy cow. While there is a fair share of hookers willing to meet by the hour, I've met and banged two SB's so far (two weeks in) at the cost of some sushi and wine on date one at my place (22 yoa, chunky but willing and able, if not a little off in the head. The second (and way hotter, professional job, bad divorce, wants a little fun, 30 something) came over Saturday, we went to a nice dinner, then sex toy shopping on a whim and back to my place for an all night sex party. No money exchanged. She is an f-ing blast and wants to keep coming over. Hasn't said word one about paying her bills or giving money. She just likes to drink wine, eat food and fuck like a champ. I have several more on the line who'll be visiting before long. This may be the long lost holy grail if you're willing to wade through the ones who just want money to hold your hand and get to the ones who first and foremost want to fuck like rabbits and worry about the financial stuff later.

MisforMaster
06-15-15, 22:43
I just ended an exchange with a POT on SA using the profile title Red. She does not show when I search for her name. She approached me. Here is an attempt at a link.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4ab6498/view?conversation-inbox

She said her name was Kate and she gave me her number. PM if you want to know what it is. Neither number nor pics returned any hits. She wants $500/ date but will take $200. Two things triggered my spidey sense: 1) she mentioned sex and money in the same text message and later did the same in a PM. 2) She refuses to meet in a public place. Instead, she insisted on having the first meeting at my place or a hotel.

If you are chatting with her, be very. Very careful.

BAM.She looks oddly familiar. But I can't place her.

MM.

BamBam
06-18-15, 11:44
I had a MnG with "Betty. " She is legit but our schedules are not going to overlap for now. She has some odd looking pics that had me a bit worried when I first saw them. I now understand better. Seniors can PM me if they want some background.

BAM.

Beachesnole02
06-18-15, 12:01
Haven't asked for her facebook thanks that was helpful.

.Before you ask, go to facebook and search with her email address.

KnightWish69
06-18-15, 13:38
Decided to try the SB site and so far it works. Too bad I'm a broke ass. Missed quite a few but can't complain.

BamBam
06-18-15, 21:07
I keep a secure, running log of the women I contact and evaluate on several of the SB sites. I ignore women outside my target zone. I am also pretty good at online research. Some of you here have used me to help build a dossier on POT's. I have a good rotation at present (slogan: I have too many women!) but I am addicted to the hunt. I would like to see us create a local thread as good as the Richmond thread. I have decided to start sharing info on profiles that I have not "adopted. " I am also willing to share my research with any seniors who contact me by PM. Are there others here who value cooperation over competition between us SD's?

BAM.

BamBam
06-18-15, 21:10
Decided to try the SB site and so far it works. Too bad I'm a broke ass. Missed quite a few but can't complain.There are some strategies that will let you get SB's for free. Some are despicable; other simply require time and patience. Which site have you tried?

BAM.

MisforMaster
06-18-15, 22:33
I keep a secure, running log of the women I contact and evaluate on several of the SB sites. I ignore women outside my target zone. I am also pretty good at online research. Some of you here have used me to help build a dossier on POT's. I have a good rotation at present (slogan: I have too many women!) but I am addicted to the hunt. I would like to see us create a local thread as good as the Richmond thread. I have decided to start sharing info on profiles that I have not "adopted. " I am also willing to share my research with any seniors who contact me by PM. Are there others here who value cooperation over competition between us SD's?

BAM.Competition evens the playing field.

A few of us have already done the same thing -- I'll send you a message tonight (as long as I don't forget).

MM.

BamBam
06-29-15, 14:23
I just got a pm from an Atlanta SB saying the following:


You profile intrigues me and you sound like fun. Hope your having a great day. I am traveling to your area to meet some friends in the next week. Would love to chat more and discuss the possibilities.She invited me to set up a three-way with my regular SB. (That's not happening.).

She sounds pro. Has anyone else been contacted? Has she volunteered a rate?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9599af1/view

BAM.

BamBam
06-30-15, 19:33
This one contacted me and offered to drive the same day from Muncie to see me.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/sugar-babies/in/muncie/blondie972

Her profile picture traces to Helga Crawford in Beverly Hills. I asked her to send me some better photos to my email. She used laurenblondie972@yahoo.com to answer and sent me pics from a porn model named Gisele. When I said I was disappointed because her pics looked so much like Gisele, she went silent.

If anyone has had better success, please let me know.

BAM.

BamBam
07-03-15, 12:50
This one turns up as Fin Dom and Fem Dom. I think I have encountered other profiles by her.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3c440df/view

https://twitter.com/jennamistress

Good luck if you are seeking that kind of thing.

BAM.

EuroInCincy
07-05-15, 08:45
Yes same message. Yet she went silent LOL.


I just got a pm from an Atlanta SB saying the following:

She invited me to set up a three-way with my regular SB. (That's not happening.).

She sounds pro. Has anyone else been contacted? Has she volunteered a rate?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9599af1/view

BAM.

Bowtie
07-05-15, 11:31
Same thing up here in cmh, back and forth, then silent. Fishing?


Yes same message. Yet she went silent LOL.

CincyGuy50
07-05-15, 12:06
I just ended an exchange with a POT on SA using the profile title Red. She does not show when I search for her name. She approached me. Here is an attempt at a link.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4ab6498/view?conversation-inbox

She said her name was Kate and she gave me her number. PM if you want to know what it is. Neither number nor pics returned any hits. She wants $500/ date but will take $200. Two things triggered my spidey sense: 1) she mentioned sex and money in the same text message and later did the same in a PM. 2) She refuses to meet in a public place. Instead, she insisted on having the first meeting at my place or a hotel.

If you are chatting with her, be very. Very careful.

BAM.Yes, was chatting back & forth with her for a bit. Got her number also, she's very forward, can't host, wants to visit your house, asks for $500, will take $200, and like you said, spidey senses itchin' like crazy. She sent me an email with more explicit photos, said she was vacation till June 25, then went back to work in Kenwood area. Wanted to come by before work. Never texted her back, now her profile is "Unavailable".

CincyGuy50
07-05-15, 12:11
I just got a pm from an Atlanta SB saying the following:

She invited me to set up a three-way with my regular SB. (That's not happening.).

She sounds pro. Has anyone else been contacted? Has she volunteered a rate?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9599af1/view

BAM.Yes, got the same message, word for word, that you did. Wanted to meet over the weekend, told her I had Sunday (today) sorta free. Then wanted to know about my coming week schedule for a possible meet.

I asked, "To meet about what exactly?" as the only thing I know about 'her' is what she sent in her message. She never quoted me a rate, perhaps that's coming in her next reply. Strange though it seems. I've got my 10 ft. Pole handy, but even that might not be long enough. LOL.

BamBam
07-05-15, 17:03
Yes, was chatting back & forth with her for a bit. Got her number also, she's very forward, can't host, wants to visit your house, asks for $500, will take $200, and like you said, spidey senses itchin' like crazy. She sent me an email with more explicit photos, said she was vacation till June 25, then went back to work in Kenwood area. Wanted to come by before work. Never texted her back, now her profile is "Unavailable".I can still see her profile but she revoked my rights to see her private pics. It was only one shot showing some saggy tits. Not at all attractive.

BAM.

JoeBogus
07-06-15, 15:38
I just ended an exchange with a POT on SA using the profile title Red. She does not show when I search for her name. She approached me. Here is an attempt at a link.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4ab6498/view?conversation-inbox

She said her name was Kate and she gave me her number. PM if you want to know what it is. Neither number nor pics returned any hits. She wants $500/ date but will take $200. Two things triggered my spidey sense: 1) she mentioned sex and money in the same text message and later did the same in a PM. 2) She refuses to meet in a public place. Instead, she insisted on having the first meeting at my place or a hotel.

If you are chatting with her, be very. Very careful.

BAM.I have been chatting her up too. She told me she lives on the West Side and her profile says Cleves. I have her number also.

I've got a full stable of SB's and more POTS than I can handle.

Thanks for sharing your intel.

Joe.

EuroInCincy
07-07-15, 07:48
She has send me some nice video's LOL.

And more info is available to the ones who have had coffee with me.


I have been chatting her up too. She told me she lives on the West Side and her profile says Cleves. I have her number also.

I've got a full stable of SB's and more POTS than I can handle.

Thanks for sharing your intel.

Joe.

MisforMaster
07-08-15, 11:45
I Love Cincy's SB scene, but, if you guys want something insane, you should come to Miami.

I've been down here since last week, and I'm having lunch, dinner, and drinks with different girls (ranging between an "Ohio 8" and a "Miami 10") basically every day. Including one 6'1 tall blond Russian bombshell with a spinner body with no baby fat who's trying to get me to marry her, with allowances anywhere between $200/ week and $1000/ week.

It *really* makes me want to move down here!

ChickaAmante
07-08-15, 17:00
Here is why. They say you get 10 free msgs when SD has one approved photo. I sent a message after meeting the photo obligation and they changed my message to a standard message - 'hi, you caught my attention, do you want to have an arrangement?' - what good is that message. Their staff is creepy to moderate even the free messages. Net, no trial of this site whatsoever. Unless you spend some crazy membership dues. Who knows!

Big Sug
07-08-15, 17:16
Here is why. They say you get 10 free msgs when SD has one approved photo. I sent a message after meeting the photo obligation and they changed my message to a standard message - 'hi, you caught my attention, do you want to have an arrangement?' - what good is that message. Their staff is creepy to moderate even the free messages. Net, no trial of this site whatsoever. Unless you spend some crazy membership dues. Who knows!I'm here to tell you, it'll be the best $80 you'll spend. You'll get so much pussy flying at you for various arrangements. Weed through them, pick a few out and start fucking! It's almost too much pussy. LOL. I've settled in on this one hot POA that just wants to fuck. No money involved. I took her to a nice dinner. We went away for the 4th and spent the entire time banging. She wants to bang my other civilian girl (24 years old, fucks like banshee and hasn't asked for a dime). Spend the money for one month and you'll be happy. I promise.

BamBam
07-08-15, 18:26
She has send me some nice video's LOL.

And more info is available to the ones who have had coffee with me.Can I get the videos?

BAM.

BamBam
07-08-15, 18:29
I Love Cincy's SB scene, but, if you guys want something insane, you should come to Miami.

I've been down here since last week, and I'm having lunch, dinner, and drinks with different girls (ranging between an "Ohio 8" and a "Miami 10") basically every day. Including one 6'1 tall blond Russian bombshell with a spinner body with no baby fat who's trying to get me to marry her, with allowances anywhere between $200/ week and $1000/ week.

It *really* makes me want to move down here!Remember the lesson of Icarus and don't fly too close to the sun. All that great action may leave you with a sugar hangover when you have to come back to SWO.

BAM.

BamBam
07-08-15, 18:30
Here is why. They say you get 10 free msgs when SD has one approved photo. I sent a message after meeting the photo obligation and they changed my message to a standard message - 'hi, you caught my attention, do you want to have an arrangement?' - what good is that message. Their staff is creepy to moderate even the free messages. Net, no trial of this site whatsoever. Unless you spend some crazy membership dues. Who knows!In my experience, it is the only site in this area that produces active leads.

BAM.

BamBam
07-09-15, 13:14
Some of you guys are messing it up for the rest of us! Here is a link to a local SB. She claims to have made $15 K from four different SD's over the last three months and did nothing more than go to dinner and exchange texts. Have any of you guys been in contact with her?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1d36f7e/view

OK, fess up: which of you guys is doing this?

BAM.

BTW, from her pictures, she appears to be a dancer and one of the pics is from inside a hotel room.

Willow1535
07-09-15, 15:39
I would agree. It is a great site and lots of activity for a small investment of time and money. I have even.come across a few familiar faces out there.

I just deactivated my membership; for a short time. It was up for renewal again and I have too many to keep track of. There are many attractive women on there. You'd be amazed at what a nice dinner and / or minimal time or money spent will get you. I have met several; ranging in age from 19 - 43.

FYI. Red is back from vacationing in Florida. She gave me the same story. I had some nice pics, but never pulled the plug. Something just doesn't seem right with her.

Happy hunting.


In my experience, it is the only site in this area that produces active leads.

BAM.

JoeBogus
07-09-15, 15:47
This member on SA that is a potential scammer / Pro. Email address is hoe4today@gmail.com so that tells you something. Email header says kristen stinkpuss. Really?

Her first PM to me in SA "my needs, well I need money to pay for my vehicle, and my costs of classes for school and a place to live. I need new clothes and shoes terribly. Do you think we can make an arrangement of some sort. ".

Her first email message to me "well I am looking to make money fast. I need to make my car payments, pay on some bills I'm behind on, and maybe some extra spending money. In return I tend to what ever needs you may have. I can meet as much as you like me too. Thanks for getting back to me. My cell number is 513-xxx-0871".

It only got stranger once the texts started. I did not follow up. Batavia / Amelia is too far for me anyway.

Kc148
07-09-15, 15:58
When I was playing on SA, some told me of the high donations and others of companionship without sex. I said fine, goodbye and wished them well. Most contacted later offering sex for a much lower price. Don't believe everything you hear.

KC.


Some of you guys are messing it up for the rest of us! Here is a link to a local SB. She claims to have made $15 K from four different SD's over the last three months and did nothing more than go to dinner and exchange texts. Have any of you guys been in contact with her?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1d36f7e/view

OK, fess up: which of you guys is doing this?

BAM.

BTW, from her pictures, she appears to be a dancer and one of the pics is from inside a hotel room.

CincyGuy50
07-09-15, 16:43
Some of you guys are messing it up for the rest of us! Here is a link to a local SB. She claims to have made $15 K from four different SD's over the last three months and did nothing more than go to dinner and exchange texts. Have any of you guys been in contact with her?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1d36f7e/view

OK, fess up: which of you guys is doing this?

BAM.

BTW, from her pictures, she appears to be a dancer and one of the pics is from inside a hotel room.My trial month is almost up as well, and throughout my searches, she's never popped up. Same thing happened with another profile. I looked at her stats and nothing I filtered should have prevented my search from finding her profile. I have not contacted her myself as this is the first I've seen her profile. And my subscription is up anyway.

CincyGuy50
07-09-15, 16:46
FYI. Red is back from vacationing in Florida. She gave me the same story. I had some nice pics, but never pulled the plug. Something just doesn't seem right with her.

Happy hunting.Something just isn't right with this one. I passed this one by.

BamBam
07-09-15, 21:03
This member on SA that is a potential scammer / Pro. Email address is hoe4today@gmail.com so that tells you something. Email header says kristen stinkpuss. Really?

Her first PM to me in SA "my needs, well I need money to pay for my vehicle, and my costs of classes for school and a place to live. I need new clothes and shoes terribly. Do you think we can make an arrangement of some sort. ".

Her first email message to me "well I am looking to make money fast. I need to make my car payments, pay on some bills I'm behind on, and maybe some extra spending money. In return I tend to what ever needs you may have. I can meet as much as you like me too. Thanks for getting back to me. My cell number is 513-xxx-0871".

It only got stranger once the texts started. I did not follow up. Batavia / Amelia is too far for me anyway.This was good info and helpful. I saw the same profile but was put off by three kids. If you can, next time including a link would save folks some time looking her up.

Here it is: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ef1a3fbe/view.

BAM.

CincyGuy50
07-09-15, 22:37
This member on SA that is a potential scammer / Pro. Email address is hoe4today@gmail.com so that tells you something. Email header says kristen stinkpuss. Really?

Her first PM to me in SA "my needs, well I need money to pay for my vehicle, and my costs of classes for school and a place to live. I need new clothes and shoes terribly. Do you think we can make an arrangement of some sort. ".

Her first email message to me "well I am looking to make money fast. I need to make my car payments, pay on some bills I'm behind on, and maybe some extra spending money. In return I tend to what ever needs you may have. I can meet as much as you like me too. Thanks for getting back to me. My cell number is 513-xxx-0871".

It only got stranger once the texts started. I did not follow up. Batavia / Amelia is too far for me anyway.We spoke back & forth for about a week. Every message from her (Hell, from most of them on that site) was about paying for something for her, right now. Some girls sound as if they could really use a bit of help. Others just want a new $700 purse with matching shoes. I talked this one down to $150/ visit. Then she wanted me to come over twice a week, every week. ($1,200/ month whether I visited or not! Please.

I went out of town for a week and never followed up with her.

At first I thought that site was a gold mine. Now I realize its just gold-diggers looking for a fool.

Martin9646
07-09-15, 22:45
This member on SA that is a potential scammer / Pro. Email address is hoe4today@gmail.com so that tells you something. Email header says kristen stinkpuss. Really?

Her first PM to me in SA "my needs, well I need money to pay for my vehicle, and my costs of classes for school and a place to live. I need new clothes and shoes terribly. Do you think we can make an arrangement of some sort. ".

Her first email message to me "well I am looking to make money fast. I need to make my car payments, pay on some bills I'm behind on, and maybe some extra spending money. In return I tend to what ever needs you may have. I can meet as much as you like me too. Thanks for getting back to me. My cell number is 513-xxx-0871".

It only got stranger once the texts started. I did not follow up. Batavia / Amelia is too far for me anyway.Thanks for the info. This is a whole new ball game regarding verification. Should I be concerned about uncles on SA?

EuroInCincy
07-10-15, 07:18
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eeb2d68/view

So texted back and forth just for he fun. The 4th message was. What is your address I can come over now.

MisforMaster
07-10-15, 10:27
Thanks for the info. This is a whole new ball game regarding verification. Should I be concerned about uncles on SA?I'd normally say "no," but, remember, one of the girls from SA was busted last November for Solicitation based on a guy she met from SA.

Some guys might remember the name, but, if you don't, message me.

MM.

BamBam
07-10-15, 12:39
I'd normally say "no," but, remember, one of the girls from SA was busted last November for Solicitation based on a guy she met from SA.

Some guys might remember the name, but, if you don't, message me.

MM.You are remembering Arnela and. She is relatively well-known as wanting to be a high-end escort. She pops up on SA as Annika from time to time but demands something like $1500 per meet. Someone from LEO said "Great! Come on over. " She did and they popped her. Not very bright and she make no effort to conceal her personal data.

Mikeyisme
07-10-15, 15:09
Has anyone had any contact, or experience with a girl selling panties on SA that says to be from West Carollton? She looks way TGTBT but I am not really getting an uncle vibe from her.

DogSun
07-10-15, 15:50
You are remembering Arnela and. She is relatively well-known as wanting to be a high-end escort. She pops up on SA as Annika from time to time but demands something like $1500 per meet. Someone from LEO said "Great! Come on over. " She did and they popped her. Not very bright and she make no effort to conceal her personal data.So LE was posing as a member on SA and set her up that way?

Big Sug
07-10-15, 17:42
Some of you guys are messing it up for the rest of us! Here is a link to a local SB. She claims to have made $15 K from four different SD's over the last three months and did nothing more than go to dinner and exchange texts. Have any of you guys been in contact with her?

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1d36f7e/view

OK, fess up: which of you guys is doing this?

BAM.

BTW, from her pictures, she appears to be a dancer and one of the pics is from inside a hotel room.Her friend Aubrey and she are flakes. She told me similar and I said she should go fuck herself. $200 just for dinner and no anything.

BamBam
07-10-15, 21:51
So LE was posing as a member on SA and set her up that way?That's the way it looks. I think that LEO would find it easier to bust the ladies who are a little too obvious. As a general rule, if you are to be a long term SD, you need to set up MnG with all POTs before agreeing an allowance. LEO will usually not invest an hour or more for a luncheon or dinner MnG on the 'chance' of making a bust. It's just not efficient for them. However, if they can sit in HQ and send PM's to women on SA, SD4 Me, etc, saying: "Will you fuck and suck for $200?" and get them to come to a sting site, it is efficient. It also poisons the site for us legitimate SD's by making it look like the site is full of horndog creepos. On the other hand, if the ladies think the site is mostly creepo horndogs, polite gentlemen stand out in contrast. Take your cues from that.

BAM.

MisforMaster
07-11-15, 01:36
That's the way it looks. I think that LEO would find it easier to bust the ladies who are a little too obvious. As a general rule, if you are to be a long term SD, you need to set up MnG with all POTs before agreeing an allowance. LEO will usually not invest an hour or more for a luncheon or dinner MnG on the 'chance' of making a bust. It's just not efficient for them. However, if they can sit in HQ and send PM's to women on SA, SD4 Me, etc, saying: "Will you fuck and suck for $200?" and get them to come to a sting site, it is efficient. It also poisons the site for us legitimate SD's by making it look like the site is full of horndog creepos. On the other hand, if the ladies think the site is mostly creepo horndogs, polite gentlemen stand out in contrast. Take your cues from that.

BAM.As silly as this sounds.

A SD relationship becomes prostitution when there's a very specific agreement to exchange cash or material possessions for sex. Which must be explicit and consummate almost immediately. There is some wiggle room, but, you know how this works. SB relationships are generally legal because couples tend to work on their relationships so sex isn't an explicit or dominant requirement (myself excluded), but, instead do things like going to social events, provide companionship, and receive compensation.

The big issue here is if you're married. Then you're playing with "house" money. And it's a possibility that your SB will have to repay half of what you give her back to your wife (ouch).

MM.

MisforMaster
07-11-15, 09:31
I apparently deleted a post instead of replying to it.

Hey A2 -- can you help me restore what I (absentmindedly) clicked away?

MM.

BamBam
07-11-15, 12:06
I was exchanging PM's with Queen Victoria:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eac799ef/view

She made me a favorite and viewed me several times. This morning I discovered she had blocked me. Another woman who had registered about the same time and was the same age also blocked me. I cannot find the second profile now and it's possible she deleted her profile or hid it temporarily. In any case, I suspect they were exchanging info and discovered I had sent the same approach message to both of them. I am not sure how I could have avoided this except by being more selective in those I approach.

BAM.

BamBam
07-11-15, 12:33
Just got a PM from this one. She is now in Cinti up from Atlanta.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9599af1/view

She can host and wants $$ per meet. No other details we offered or requested.

BAM.

CincyGuy50
07-11-15, 15:46
Just got a PM from this one. She is now in Cinti up from Atlanta.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9599af1/view

She can host and wants $$ per meet. No other details we offered or requested.

BAM.Yes I did too. Wanted me to give her my number to meet. Said she's here for 3 days.

I didn't reply.

JoeBogus
07-11-15, 16:03
I was exchanging PM's with Queen Victoria:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eac799ef/view

She made me a favorite and viewed me several times. This morning I discovered she had blocked me. Another woman who had registered about the same time and was the same age also blocked me. I cannot find the second profile now and it's possible she deleted her profile or hid it temporarily. In any case, I suspect they were exchanging info and discovered I had sent the same approach message to both of them. I am not sure how I could have avoided this except by being more selective in those I approach.

BAM.This one's pics seemed professionally done and seemed TGTBT, even for SA.

As for the same approach message, there is a risk that too many of us in one market are using the 5 steps language and are stepping on each other. So far I have not run into that but it's bound to happen eventually.

John HandCock
07-11-15, 18:34
Been watching the post concerning Aubrey.

I just had lunch with her and there was no charge. She is a pretty girl and stated that she was getting $$$ for just meeting and I then knew it was the same one that you guys had referenced. Anyway she is doing quite well doing this and there are quite a few guys in your area that are willing to pay the price. She is very pretty and quite smart and has figured out how to play the game for now. Anyway I got off just buying lunch and figured out early she was out of my range. We texted several times and she never asked for a meeting fee.

BamBam
07-11-15, 19:13
This one's pics seemed professionally done and seemed TGTBT, even for SA.

As for the same approach message, there is a risk that too many of us in one market are using the 5 steps language and are stepping on each other. So far I have not run into that but it's bound to happen eventually.I am only using the 5-steps as an outline. My actual approach message is probably unique to me.

My note on the lady from Atlanta posted with only two $$; there should have been FIVE. I invited her to let me know if she had any slow periods where there might be more flexibility.

BAM.

EuroInCincy
07-13-15, 08:19
You are remembering Arnela and. She is relatively well-known as wanting to be a high-end escort. She pops up on SA as Annika from time to time but demands something like $1500 per meet. Someone from LEO said "Great! Come on over. " She did and they popped her. Not very bright and she make no effort to conceal her personal data.Yes annika. Wanting $500 for lunch to see if you are real. Did got a free lunch. But declined the lets go to my place for $500.

EuroInCincy
07-13-15, 08:22
I am only using the 5-steps as an outline. My actual approach message is probably unique to me.

My note on the lady from Atlanta posted with only two $$; there should have been FIVE. I invited her to let me know if she had any slow periods where there might be more flexibility.

BAM.Strawberry and another are in from atlanta.

The other is in her 30's texted me Friday evening wanting to have my address so she could come over.

I should have given her the rumpke location.

Then Saturday Strawberry texted me and also seemed too interested in my location.

ChickaAmante
07-14-15, 20:09
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea1e68df/view

Kayla baby-- exchanged info. I say lets connect via text. She was like, I need a $ right now. Can I meet you now? . I'm like I only have 15 min. Before I head back to work from my break. She's like I can come to you for a minute to pick up her $. I'm like but we haven't even talked, or discussed anything. She's like just let me know where you are. I'm like - 'not happening', many reasons, one being that I might definitely not within 15 min. Of driving distance from where she was (she indicated earlier where she was in general). She says she'll make it. I'm like what is she riding- a hovercraft? . I said 'BYE'.

A bit manipulated/exaggerated text above but essentially that is what happened. Some POTs are just INTERESTING! BTW, her profile starts with - I'm very smart!! ;). LOL

Beware!!

CincyGuy50
07-15-15, 14:54
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea1e68df/view

Kayla baby-- exchanged info. I say lets connect via text. She was like, I need a $ right now. Can I meet you now? . I'm like I only have 15 min. Before I head back to work from my break. She's like I can come to you for a minute to pick up her $. I'm like but we haven't even talked, or discussed anything. She's like just let me know where you are. I'm like - 'not happening', many reasons, one being that I might definitely not within 15 min. Of driving distance from where she was (she indicated earlier where she was in general). She says she'll make it. I'm like what is she riding- a hovercraft? . I said 'BYE'.

A bit manipulated/exaggerated text above but essentially that is what happened. Some POTs are just INTERESTING! BTW, her profile starts with - I'm very smart!! ;). LOL

Beware!!I would agree. Most of the ones I've exchanged emails and texts with want you to send them $ for gas, or their phone is about to die, or some other immediate drama that needs MY money to fix, RIGHT NOW! All of these instances were in the initial contact, or very soon after. "Send me money for gas so we can meet up. " "Send me money so we can chat, my data package is going to run out. " "I'm so hungry, I haven't eaten in 2 days, can you send me a little something now so I can feed my kid. ?" Man. So much drama, and we haven't even met or discussed anything yet. Either I'm really not equipped with the proper credentials (buckets of money) to be on that site, or these womenz be crazy. I think I've seen enough from there. Got to be a better way. Stay safe guys! Cheers,

BamBam
07-15-15, 17:23
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea1e68df/view

Kayla baby-- exchanged info. I say lets connect via text. She was like, I need a $ right now. Can I meet you now? . I'm like I only have 15 min. Before I head back to work from my break. She's like I can come to you for a minute to pick up her $. I'm like but we haven't even talked, or discussed anything. She's like just let me know where you are. I'm like - 'not happening', many reasons, one being that I might definitely not within 15 min. Of driving distance from where she was (she indicated earlier where she was in general). She says she'll make it. I'm like what is she riding- a hovercraft? . I said 'BYE'.

A bit manipulated/exaggerated text above but essentially that is what happened. Some POTs are just INTERESTING! BTW, her profile starts with - I'm very smart!! ;). LOL

Beware!!I've chatted with her. She said she didn't have a car and that I would have to pick her up. I guess that is still true if she is riding a hovercraft. LOL!

CincyGuy50
07-16-15, 09:31
I heard from her this morning also. Funny how a lot of these girls that seem so desperate for cash on there, will have tattoos and piercings, and other items in their photos that they obviously had money to get. And now they need yours immediately for some purse or tank of gas, before absolutely any discussions take place. Thanks for the heads up! She's cute and all but I don't need any more drama.

CincyGuy50
07-17-15, 11:15
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ec13645f/view

Here's another one. Stay far away from this piece of work. I've been chatting with her for about two weeks now. Wants to come and see me, but I have to send her gas money first. She's won't make a move unless you send her $. I almost fell for it too, but I backed away at the last minute. She will work on your sympathy for her current situation, but I've already learned the game they're playing. Money first, then meet.

EuroInCincy
07-18-15, 08:16
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ec13645f/view

Here's another one. Stay far away from this piece of work. I've been chatting with her for about two weeks now. Wants to come and see me, but I have to send her gas money first. She's won't make a move unless you send her $. I almost fell for it too, but I backed away at the last minute. She will work on your sympathy for her current situation, but I've already learned the game they're playing. Money first, then meet.NEVER play upfront.

I have filled a gas tank after the coffee. But that was it.

BTW I find out many prefer to use kik instead of texting.

BamBam
07-18-15, 10:30
NEVER play upfront.

I have filled a gas tank after the coffee. But that was it.

BTW I find out many prefer to use kik instead of texting.I am not paying anything until after I see the woman. That means at least one casual meeting before offering them an allowance, gas money or anything. After the meeting, if I am interested in pursuing them further, I might offer gas or baby sitting money to establish my 'generosity. ' It's hard to do this with a pre-POT who is several hundred miles away.

Where can I find out more about kik? Can I use it on a burner phone or my laptop?

CincyGuy50
07-18-15, 12:00
Where can I find out more about kik? Can I use it on a burner phone or my laptop?http://www.kik.com/

I don't think you can use it on laptops. If you're burner is Android you're good.

MisforMaster
07-18-15, 12:53
I am not paying anything until after I see the woman. That means at least one casual meeting before offering them an allowance, gas money or anything. After the meeting, if I am interested in pursuing them further, I might offer gas or baby sitting money to establish my 'generosity. ' It's hard to do this with a pre-POT who is several hundred miles away.

Where can I find out more about kik? Can I use it on a burner phone or my laptop?If your burner phone is an android or iOS device, you can use it there.

If you're tech-positive, you can use kik on your laptop (it's jabber underneath the hood), but, it requires some hacking to make it work.

MisforMaster
07-18-15, 13:01
BTW I find out many prefer to use kik instead of texting.The reason for this is so that they can keep up with their pretend identities.

Generally speaking, I won't continue chatting with a SB if she's given me a google voice number, a burner number, or, any of the texting apps unless they tell me up front that is what they're doing. Before I give them any money, their 'identity' must come back to something real -- Facebook Profile, Mugshot, work webpage, public records. Something verifiable and trusted -- no exceptions. As you might have guessed, this has caused me to drop a lot of Sugar Babies -- but I'm looking for a "Sugar Baby," not a "Gold Digger. ".

Case in point -- a SB from Miami was showing me pictures of her apple watch. And then proceeds to give me a textfree number swearing up and down that it was her real number. It took about 30 seconds to get her real number from textfree (yes, you can do that with just about any service out there), look her up on facebook, and see that she's less than 4 weeks away from being married -- which is a far cry away from her "being single. ".

I've had phone calls that go:

"Hey, this is (SB's Real name)'s boyfriend. Why does she always delete text messages that she receives from you?

I'm looking to avoid phone calls like that while I'm out at dinner with friends or coworkers.

Mr Longrod
07-21-15, 10:16
Sydney Dawn https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e992bf2e/view?search-recently-active.

Annie P https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e12946001/view?search-recently-active.

MissAxo https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e68498bc/view?search-recently-active.

DoubleTrouble93 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7afb39f/view?search-recently-active.

Cosmogirl123 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8d4eece/view?search-recently-active.

VictoriaL123 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0096f6f/view?search-recently-active.

None of these girls will put out anything except their hand asking for cash. Beware unless you are into paying to be friends with no benefits.

ChickaAmante
07-21-15, 23:29
I can add countless others that are out there just to beg, plead and / or get a quick buck for nothing in return. One offered me a few nude pics for $$/pic... I mean seriously, don't they know there's free stuff on internet and just a pic for that much. Stupid b****

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e5be1e9e/view

This one above is amazingly falsifying. A good friend of mine met her and she's 50 lbs heavier and the pics must be 5 yrs old at least. Also had crazy baby damage and overall looked like an obese BBW (not a curvy good-shaped one either).

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ef27747b

This one wants 1400 $ LV purse. Not a penny less. And that too for mostly uncertain meeting.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e74a67001/view

This one above is a pure 'mail ordered bride from Russia' that is now into full time gold digging. She wants 5 star hotel minimum for first meeting and a gift. Has two kids and 27 yo. Must've been dumped after the bride fad was over for her ordering husband.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ecc17b9f/view

This one above needs to update her pics.. she's atleast 30-40 lbs heavier and not as pretty anymore.. had a kid and must be baby damage from what my friend could guess from the external size.. so he moved on..

Lots of dreamers, beggars, stupid SBs, gold diggers out there on SA. So far lot more time investment than the regular scene. Still optimistic. .


Sydney Dawn https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e992bf2e/view?search-recently-active.

Annie P https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e12946001/view?search-recently-active.

MissAxo https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e68498bc/view?search-recently-active.

DoubleTrouble93 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7afb39f/view?search-recently-active.

Cosmogirl123 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8d4eece/view?search-recently-active.

VictoriaL123 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0096f6f/view?search-recently-active.

None of these girls will put out anything except their hand asking for cash. Beware unless you are into paying to be friends with no benefits.

Kc148
07-22-15, 09:53
I was on the SA site in March, spent a lot of time, had successes, avoid the providers posting, found the costs no cheaper and often more expensive than offered by providers here but did not find the one I wanted to see more than a few times (attractive, younger, good in bed, fun to talk with). I recently bought another month. Have had one success, avoided the providers but have found lots of the SB are wasting my time. Much more than before. As has already been pointed out, many are looking for cash for only friendship-no sex. Thanks again for posting them. At least some actually post no sex on profile so we can avoid. Not sure if the site has become so widely known that many girls figure why not try to get cash off these stupid older men. Also, from my experiences, I am sure the site puts up fake profiles, has someone handle them, respond with positive responses to one's messages, even write about meeting but then never agree to an actual day and time to meet or stop responding once they are forced to set meet time. I have found these to often have locations that are small towns that one could find on maps that they hope will throw off the SD. Such as listing Loveland, Fairfield, Bellevue, Spring Grove, etc. Most of those ladies if real would have said Cincinnati. Also when you are looking at the site, it seems that there are many women who are active and on line. This is true technically but not in reality. Unless you go to your profile, open it and click on log out, the site will keep you on it. I have always thought by closing the site it would disconnect you. Not true. Many of the "on Line" women have just not properly logged off and are not really looking at the site. Another factor is that I am in the Cincinnati area. Seems from other people's posting, that some other areas of the country do have a good supply of good SB. I am happy for them but sad for us. I will continue to look for next several weeks but will not renew.

KC.

Mr Longrod
07-22-15, 16:05
KC. I agree. There must of been some info put out about SA that all of these non sex girls are showing up. Who pays these girls to just hold hands? I am tired of the bs on there too.

WanderingAbout
07-22-15, 16:52
There are nearly a dozen strippers from Harem, Cheeks and Diamonds seeking arrangements online. A number of the ladies are from the Cincinnati area who work in Dayton. All are using fake names on the website and names other than their stage name in most cases. A few identified their occupation as stripper or entertainer.

Introduce yourself online. Meet at club. Work out the arrangement details. Some want regulars at the club plus a SD. Some offer OTC after meeting at the club. All are seeking arrangements.

It's a different way to meet a stripper. Proof is in the pics provided. Stay safe.

MisforMaster
07-22-15, 18:42
KC. I agree. There must of been some info put out about SA that all of these non sex girls are showing up. Who pays these girls to just hold hands? I am tired of the bs on there too.Yup. It's the SA blog.

From their post a few days ago about the "Twenty-some things about Sugar Dating" (or some bullshit like that):

Number 14 is the one that really stands out: "You don't necessarily have to put out to cash in. " The woman goes on to say, "I'm never going to have sex with you but I will let you think so for one more month. " It's basically false promises with no intention of follow through. Some SBs do it, some SDs do it. Unfortuantely, I was really bit by this in the beginning. I'll usually do pay for play in the beginning until I start to trust them, and then once I really trust them, I'll give them an allowance.

MisforMaster
07-22-15, 18:44
Sydney Dawn https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e992bf2e/view?search-recently-active.
None of these girls will put out anything except their hand asking for cash. Beware unless you are into paying to be friends with no benefits.I did have a brief relationship with Sydney Dawn last year. Full menu, comfortable with BB once you give her an STD test (and yes, she'll give you one in return). She wanted a house after the third meeting, and I wasn't anywhere close to that comfortable to her.

MM.

EuroInCincy
07-23-15, 07:28
e. I have found these to often have locations that are small towns that one could find on maps that they hope will throw off the SD. Such as listing Loveland, Fairfield, Bellevue, Spring Grove, etc. Most of those ladies if real would have said Cincinnati.
KC.The locations are based on their Zip code. So these girls do not enter loveland, they enter 45140 and SA automatically nets Loveland. So it is USPS database driven not user input driven.

D Nut
07-23-15, 10:42
I had no idea how many SBs I knew in real life. I opened an account just for my own curiosity and blew my mind how many I knew. Wowza!

Davem7643
07-23-15, 15:06
I've been researching SB and thought I might try the SA site. Looked at most posts here but if there is any help you can give a guy it would be appreciated. Be safe.

JoeBogus
07-23-15, 21:07
Aubrey unique on SA pulled a pretty slick cash and dash maneuver on me today so I'm warning you to stay away.

I violated the first rule of the sugarbowl. The sugar starts when the panties hit the floor.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb9f5f5f/view

ChickaAmante
07-23-15, 23:44
Today's episode was the last straw. There are a couple of POTs that I have been talking with. Lots of slow texting, millions of key strokes. Lots of calls and messages. So much so that my SO noticed the unusual behavior of me spending too much time on the computer / phone. The last straw was due to the attached profile (currently deactivated). Did lots of chatting, texting, giggles and googles on phone etc etc. For 7 days. Did M&G and upon her request, both agreed directly to terms of arrangement and regular routine for FC visits. First visit scheduled today. Asked a few times to confirm. All OK. I booked FC. All OK. Ordered food and drinks. All OK. 10 minutes before our scheduled time, this POS texts, she's on her monthly and anything else would be possibly entertained. I was like 'Fuck off'. Lots of other SBs did the same recently, just way before the FC. Its just not fucking worth my time is my conclusion! Goodbye SA. Never renewing my subscription!! SA has ruined it by posting blog posts encouraging SB's to expect everything just for nothing in return. And then those moron MTV reality shows, same shit was shown there.

http://www.mtv.com/shows/truelife/true-life-im-a-sugar-baby/1667269/playlist/

SBs are getting programmed, contaminated with toxic thoughts. LOL. We, brothers, need to be united or else some stupid men will always be the suckers that will ruin it for everyone else.

Here is the latest info. On some profiles. Flakes, GPS, beggars, hustlers and so much more.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e54716be/view -- wants handholding for $$visit.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3a4b2001/view - too dumb to follow a conversation on call.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3051b001/view - expects charity SD. Nothing is being offered in return, just a sob story!!

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e79dc0001/view - expects to receive $$ for pics / videos.

I can go on and on and on. Fuck it!! JUST PISSED OFF TODAY! LOL.

Choochie
07-24-15, 10:00
I had no idea how many SBs I knew in real life. I opened an account just for my own curiosity and blew my mind how many I knew. Wowza!I think if you personally know a girl who seeks sugar either with SD / SB or with escorting on BP or walking the stroll. The odds of you knowing multiple goes way up. Because it seems like these girls hit their licks in packs like they go to the bathroom. Need to bring a friend along. Can't do anything alone. Just like they always have a boyfriend. Some loser who's okay with his piece getting fucked every which way.

Speaking of Mr. Nut, I think you said a long time ago that you saw this tatted up TGTBT girl in a bar in NCH, or perhaps MtHealthy. It sounded like you knew her. I've lost contact with her for about a year. Big mistake. Should have made her my SB. She was sweet and hot as hell. I just didn't pay her enough attention and took her for granted. She told me her name was Paris. I can send a photo via PM, if you are the guy who said this a long time ago. I have tried searching for the comment. It was what indirectly lead me to seeing her the first time. That was maybe 2 years ago. She hasn't advertised in a very long time. I suspect someone else converted her to SB status. I should have.

D Nut
07-26-15, 23:27
I think if you personally know a girl who seeks sugar either with SD / SB or with escorting on BP or walking the stroll. The odds of you knowing multiple goes way up. Because it seems like these girls hit their licks in packs like they go to the bathroom. Need to bring a friend along. Can't do anything alone. Just like they always have a boyfriend. Some loser who's okay with his piece getting fucked every which way.

Speaking of Mr. Nut, I think you said a long time ago that you saw this tatted up TGTBT girl in a bar in NCH, or perhaps MtHealthy. It sounded like you knew her. I've lost contact with her for about a year. Big mistake. Should have made her my SB. She was sweet and hot as hell. I just didn't pay her enough attention and took her for granted. She told me her name was Paris. I can send a photo via PM, if you are the guy who said this a long time ago. I have tried searching for the comment. It was what indirectly lead me to seeing her the first time. That was maybe 2 years ago. She hasn't advertised in a very long time. I suspect someone else converted her to SB status. I should have.They are real friends who I occasionally meet out for dinner, meet up at bars, text about whatever, been to their houses; doing things real friends do. They are not on BP or walking the streets. Most are legitimate college students trying to graduate.

As for Paris, I don't recall that conversation. I don't even know a Paris in real life. BUt I do have some tatted up friends from that part of town. Sure. Send me a photo and I'll let you know if I know her.

BamBam
07-27-15, 15:02
Nando1 alert. Homeless and asking for money. Lives near Fairfield. Burned up my phone for a brief period.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3a4b2001/view

Big Sug
07-27-15, 16:05
Well, despite some negative reports, I've had a great time on SA and at minimal cost (ie: no more than BP or CL girls, and some no cost but dinner). I banged the living hell out of this hot 22 year old this weekend. Incredible body, part native american. Only issue was she definitely took something on a bathroom trip be / see she got super sleepy and nodded off after round 4! LOL. I didn't see any marks and checked her purse when she was asleep to see what it was, but didn't find anything. Not sure what was up, but for a 3 hour date, it was 2 bones and she was tight, toned and willing to do it all, and even try some new stuff! I've banged every date from SA, and have another set up this weekend with a 21 year old who is pure smoke. Utterly drop dead gorgeous and ready to get down. I'll report back.

I've actually met a girl I may date (and who very much wants to date me, surprisingly!. Early 30's, smoking hot, divorced, loves to bang anytime / anywhere, loves girls and will do as many as we can pick up, and best part is she's fully employed, and just got a job that will pay her more than I make. And that's doing something! LOL. Winner, winner!

Kc148
07-28-15, 01:10
Claimed to me as well that was homeless and wanted me to get her a hotel room for week. I said happy to if I was present when she registered, I got a key as well and then we went back to room and got intimate. She said forget it, that she was no prostitute and I was a jerk for expecting more than a friendship.

KC.


Nando1 alert. Homeless and asking for money. Lives near Fairfield. Burned up my phone for a brief period.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3a4b2001/view

Kc148
07-28-15, 01:18
SexyMolly of Cincinnati listed age of 25 was a pro who will try to scam you. I had seen her before from another site, lied to me. Led with around the area, then was in hotel room but of my choice and not hers, kept asking for money upfront and used then deleted a text from my burner phone. I knew her guy was coming over and she was trying to scam me. I bent her over, banged her quickly and left. She had a guy waiting outside in car but I got away. So today I go to pick up SexyMolly and it was fake pic-was her. Before I knew it she was hoping in my car. I told her to get out of my car. She said she wanted money, was 15 and would call the police and tell them I raped her. I explained for her she could call cops. She told me she had researched me, I was married and would tell wife and cops. I told her that I was single and she could call. I them picked up my cell and started to make a call to cops. She got out of my car while calling me all kinds of names. Avoid!

KC.

BamBam
07-28-15, 16:39
SexyMolly of Cincinnati listed age of 25 was a pro who will try to scam you. I had seen her before from another site, lied to me. Led with around the area, then was in hotel room but of my choice and not hers, kept asking for money upfront and used then deleted a text from my burner phone. I knew her guy was coming over and she was trying to scam me. I bent her over, banged her quickly and left. She had a guy waiting outside in car but I got away. So today I go to pick up SexyMolly and it was fake pic-was her. Before I knew it she was hoping in my car. I told her to get out of my car. She said she wanted money, was 15 and would call the police and tell them I raped her. I explained for her she could call cops. She told me she had researched me, I was married and would tell wife and cops. I told her that I was single and she could call. I them picked up my cell and started to make a call to cops. She got out of my car while calling me all kinds of names. Avoid!

KC.Which website is she on? I tried but couldn't find her on SA or SD4 Me. I ran into one like that a year ago on SD4 Me. After a couple of bad sessions, I dumped her. She texted saying she had all my data, was putting it on the internet and was on her way to my place. I said come on over; I'll be waiting. She still texts me from time to time asking if I am over being mad.

Kc148
07-29-15, 12:40
She is on SA. I put her name in sexymolly in profile search and she came up. Avoid her!

KC.


Which website is she on? I tried but couldn't find her on SA or SD4 Me. I ran into one like that a year ago on SD4 Me. After a couple of bad sessions, I dumped her. She texted saying she had all my data, was putting it on the internet and was on her way to my place. I said come on over; I'll be waiting. She still texts me from time to time asking if I am over being mad.

Joe999
07-29-15, 14:11
Found this one on sd4 me site. She is cute but will try to blackmail you as soon as she has a chance to. It was a rough road for a while. But please staybaway from this one. Pm me for details if you like.

BamBam
07-29-15, 15:33
Found this one on sd4 me site. She is cute but will try to blackmail you as soon as she has a chance to. It was a rough road for a while. But please stay away from this one. Pm me for details if you like.Holy Cow! That was one of the names used by the girl who tried to blackmail me. She is really cute and we had some great sex but she had a druggy BF who kept trying to get her to extort more money. If she would just go into straight and honest escorting, she could be very popular. She also goes by Jessica and has tons of different numbers. She will try to cash and dash if you give her the chance.

JoeBogus
07-30-15, 00:05
Found this one on sd4 me site. She is cute but will try to blackmail you as soon as she has a chance to. It was a rough road for a while. But please staybaway from this one. Pm me for details if you like.Not sure if this is the same girl. Mandyy1124@xxxxx.com. 513-xxx-4225. Never was able to actually get a meet scheduled.

EuroInCincy
07-30-15, 00:09
Found this one on sd4 me site. She is cute but will try to blackmail you as soon as she has a chance to. It was a rough road for a while. But please staybaway from this one. Pm me for details if you like.I never met her. I had it set up, but never made it, since it sounded a tad to 'smelly'.

Yes. Even had 'her parents' call me stating thy needed $ for a STD test. LOL.

After 5 calls and 30 text it did stop.

MisforMaster
07-30-15, 04:16
I never met her. I had it set up, but never made it, since it sounded a tad to 'smelly'.

Yes. Even had 'her parents' call me stating thy needed $ for a STD test. LOL.

After 5 calls and 30 text it did stop.And I thought mine were bad.

Honestly, the worst was the little redhead who broke my heart, but, that's another story for another day (44 phone calls and a little under 2,000 text messages during the course of a weekend).

Mikeyisme
07-30-15, 11:26
Any of you fellow brothers out there get any experience with either of these 2?

Kc148
07-30-15, 16:22
She talked me into taking her to dinner. Complete wack job. She is shorter and wider than pics show. Talked about sex weekend wiith civilian and bummed he has not called. Thinks she is god's gift to man. Wanted stupid amount to have sex and wanted to be worshipped. Fat, short, crap persoanlity. I couldn't wait for dinner to be over and escape. KC.


Any of you fellow brothers out there get any experience with either of these 2?.

Mr Longrod
07-30-15, 17:17
Any of you fellow brothers out there get any experience with either of these 2?I have seen Sophie a few times (on the left) . I had no issues with her. Very good times. If you are old or fat or ugly it may make a difference. As always YMMV.

Choochie
07-30-15, 17:29
She talked me into taking her to dinner. Complete wack job. She is shorter and wider than pics show. Talked about sex weekend wiith civilian and bummed he has not called. Thinks she is god's gift to man. Wanted stupid amount to have sex and wanted to be worshipped. Fat, short, crap persoanlity. I couldn't wait for dinner to be over and escape. KC.

.Tell me that you told her she was all these things. Please. Please. It would make me so happy.

The sad thing is, there are guys who would jump at the chance to do this for her no matter how bad she is.

Some guy reading this was like "Holy shit! I love fat short bitches who want me to worship them and pay them for sex".

DiscreetG5771
07-30-15, 19:16
She talked me into taking her to dinner. Complete wack job. She is shorter and wider than pics show. Talked about sex weekend wiith civilian and bummed he has not called. Thinks she is god's gift to man. Wanted stupid amount to have sex and wanted to be worshipped. Fat, short, crap persoanlity. I couldn't wait for dinner to be over and escape. KC.

.Yea, she's a *****! Complete snob.

EuroInCincy
07-30-15, 21:27
Any of you fellow brothers out there get any experience with either of these 2?The one on the left is Sophie yes.

EuroInCincy
08-01-15, 22:25
So there she is using the same pictures / bed spread.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e78695601/view?search-created-new Sunshine23126.

(she has not date for 5 months!).

And you can also find her on http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/350/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/7366-Let-SunShine-Brighten-Your-Day-OUT-CALLS-ONLY-.html.

Also see post 3592 by dnut and 3588.

Kc148
08-01-15, 23:10
I was suppose to see the one on the right today. Communication by text had been pretty good. We set a meeting for her today at a Starbucks in Fairfield. But then texting stopped yesterday and she didn't respond today so assumed she wasn't coming. Has anyone been able to meet her?

KC.


Any of you fellow brothers out there get any experience with either of these 2?

JoeBogus
08-02-15, 09:29
I was suppose to see the one on the right today. Communication by text had been pretty good. We set a meeting for her today at a Starbucks in Fairfield. But then texting stopped yesterday and she didn't respond today so assumed she wasn't coming. Has anyone been able to meet her?

KC.I have texted her before but was never able to get her to a M&G.

BamBam
08-02-15, 12:48
I have texted her before but was never able to get her to a M&G.I chatted with her after she made me a favorite but we never got to a MnG. She went silent on me about a month ago. I did learn that she doesn't have reliable transportation. Sometimes they are embarrassed that they cannot make the meeting and just go quiet.

BamBam
08-03-15, 19:32
Her profile says you must send her a gift before sending a message. Did anyone here bite? Has anyone here *ever* used SFD4 Me to send a gift?

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/sugar-babies/oh/dayton/Parisfrance12

ChickaAmante
08-03-15, 22:41
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e314fc001/view

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e74a67001/view

Just realized both profiles are the same person. A retired Russian mail-order-bride (or *****?) who pushes hard for drinks or dinner right away and if you say coffee, calls you cheap (yep, calling potential SD cheap, so that ended quick for profile #1 above). Then I felt for the trick the second time, when I saw the other profile #2. Took her to drinks and then the ***** wants $$ . Makes me book a place and then says sorry, its too low. Raise it to $$ or she's not driving. Stay far far away from this crazy one!

ChickaAmante
08-03-15, 22:43
I have had the same experience. I see a pattern here. No good! She goes silent way too quick!

I have seen 3-4 profiles that I had connected with, taken down already. Wonder if SA pays some brazillian kids or nigerian kids to put up profiles. Chat with SDs by texts. Bore them to death by not responding or sparsely responding and then taking the profile down. I sense conspiracy!!


I chatted with her after she made me a favorite but we never got to a MnG. She went silent on me about a month ago. I did learn that she doesn't have reliable transportation. Sometimes they are embarrassed that they cannot make the meeting and just go quiet.

ChickaAmante
08-03-15, 22:49
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4f11d401/view

Upon initial contact, had good communication. Called a one or two times but didn't answer. So texting was all. Decided a place. Of course car had been totaled (you guessed it, day before she joined SA). So I said ok, let's decide where to meet. Emphasized on dinner and groceries (clue 1, I missed it). Long story short, I drive all that way to the eastgate. She wouldn't come out of her crappy apartment complex until I spilled sugar since she had to pay sitter and now the sitter is upset (according to her). You get it. Too much drama and no payback in site, I ran out of there in no time!!

Kc148
08-03-15, 23:38
We texted, she wanted to meet bad, I said can't till another day, she asked to meet before or after, I said okay but how much for intimate fun time, 350, I say 150, she says no, I say goodbye, she says ok, I pick her up, she is faking bad back but we go to hotel room, talk, naked, kissing, breast play, DATY & she gets wet and more into it, she kisses more than touched my dick, I enter her but she is very tight so not last long. I buy her McDonald's and $20 worth of milk and diapers. Next day I get stood up by provider and am horny so text her. Same price and hotel. But her back is worse and when we get to hotel she says is feeling sick, threw up in back of throat so no kissing. All bullshit. Both days I gave her a back massage and her back was fine with no tense or sore spots. So I play with her tits and stick it inside her hard, long and full on. Once inside I realized she wasn't so tight but had been squeezing so very hard the day before trying to not let me in. Once in, she stopped squeezing. She was backwards of what a good lay should be. She was not a good fu*k. On the drive to drop her off, she was texting on her cell most of the time. I will not see her again.

KC.


https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4f11d401/view

Upon initial contact, had good communication. Called a one or two times but didn't answer. So texting was all. Decided a place. Of course car had been totaled (you guessed it, day before she joined SA). So I said ok, let's decide where to meet. Emphasized on dinner and groceries (clue 1, I missed it). Long story short, I drive all that way to the eastgate. She wouldn't come out of her crappy apartment complex until I spilled sugar since she had to pay sitter and now the sitter is upset (according to her). You get it. Too much drama and no payback in site, I ran out of there in no time!!

D Nut
08-03-15, 23:58
Her profile says you must send her a gift before sending a message. Did anyone here bite? Has anyone here *ever* used SFD4 Me to send a gift?

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/sugar-babies/oh/dayton/Parisfrance12Uh. Guys. You better run. But a different reason other than asking for a gift before messaging:

http://princess-chrysalis29.******.com/

(More than likely a fake profile. But still.).

BamBam
08-04-15, 11:02
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e314fc001/view

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e74a67001/view

Just realized both profiles are the same person. A retired Russian mail-order-bride (or *****?) who pushes hard for drinks or dinner right away and if you say coffee, calls you cheap (yep, calling potential SD cheap, so that ended quick for profile #1 above). Then I felt for the trick the second time, when I saw the other profile #2. Took her to drinks and then the ***** wants $$ . Makes me book a place and then says sorry, its too low. Raise it to $$ or she's not driving. Stay far far away from this crazy one!The second profile was using stolen pics. She brushed off my approach and when I told her guys could tell when someone used 'borrowed' pics she blocked me.

BamBam
08-04-15, 11:06
Uh. Guys. You better run. But a different reason other than asking for a gift before messaging:

http://princess-chrysalis29.******.com/

(More than likely a fake profile. But still.).It may say she is trans but if you go back far enough you can tell she started with lady parts and her 'trans' thing may just be posturing. Either way, bad attitude and likely trouble.

BamBam
08-05-15, 18:43
Here is what she sent to me (after making me a favorite):


...that sounds perfect to me. except i dont like meeting or doing anything with anyone i dont think can financially support me, so in order for someone to prove to me they are worthy of my time and efforts, you have to put down a $500 down transferred to me through paypal. i know it might sound crazy, but trust me it will be worth it in the end my daddy. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eed62b701/view

Anyone willing to TOFTT? LOL!

BAM.

IDontLikeU
08-05-15, 20:40
Here is what she sent to me (after making me a favorite):

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eed62b701/view

Anyone willing to TOFTT? LOL!

BAM.No but I will translate: I'm a lazy do nothing who has figured out that there are plenty of suckers who will send me money and I don't have to lift a finger! Don't be one of those suckers.

EuroInCincy
08-06-15, 02:44
Here is what she sent to me (after making me a favorite):

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eed62b701/view

Anyone willing to TOFTT? LOL!

BAM.There are a few others who try to do so. Just keep saying "NO".

BamBam
08-06-15, 10:53
Here is what she sent to me (after making me a favorite):

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eed62b701/view

Anyone willing to TOFTT? LOL!

BAM.Here is how our exchange went after the money request:

Me.

Sadly, I have had too many bad experiences here that have made me shy about offering money before even knowing the person who will be getting it. It's also the case, that I am unable to offer that kind of money for a single meet. That is almost as much as I offer for a monthly allowance. You are too rich for me, alas.

16 hours ago Arial Poppie.

Any amount helps really, I just want to know you can afford me and enjoy my time. I hope that you will be willing to do at least that. I do want to meet you and spend time with you.

16 hours ago Me.

I will think about it and get back to you.

15 hours ago Arial Poppie.

Okay boo. Ihope you say yes.

I will wait a week and maybe get back to her. She is a bit too young for my tastes.

JoeBogus
08-06-15, 21:05
Any info on these new additions? They all messaged me and then went silent when I answered.

Little Bit https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e92216c7/view.

Rain S. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2066fff/view.

Aveary https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ecd94d301/view.

Endlesswetdreams https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e637733c/view.

Kandi 89 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e342d2201/view.

JoeBogus
08-06-15, 21:27
Bribaby https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e85707ff/view.

"I dance at New York New York cabaret in Franklin and I work Monday Thursday Friday Saturday, usually evenings".

BamBam
08-07-15, 20:09
Any info on these new additions? They all messaged me and then went silent when I answered.

Little Bit https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e92216c7/view.

Rain S. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2066fff/view.

Aveary https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ecd94d301/view.

Endlesswetdreams https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e637733c/view.

Kandi 89 https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e342d2201/view.Aveary's profile is a clear Nando1 and Little Bit has a reputation for being an unsafe Covington streetwalker.

JoeBogus
08-07-15, 21:09
Aveary's profile is a clear Nando1 and Little Bit has a reputation for being an unsafe Covington streetwalker.What is Nando1? I'm assuming its a psycho bitc* I have seen references to a SW named LittleBit but did not know if this was the same girl. She said her name was Jen and lived in Norwood.

Bribaby (Stripper) said she is now working days at NYNY and want to meet first in the club, as expected.

EuroInCincy
08-08-15, 01:55
Any info on these new additions? They all messaged me and then went silent when I answered.

Rain S. https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2066fff/view.

.Emailed with her. Then it. Went silent.

Renewed my memberships. And she was back and again after 2 emails. Silence.

BamBam
08-08-15, 12:46
What is Nando1? I'm assuming its a psycho bitc* I have seen references to a SW named LittleBit but did not know if this was the same girl. She said her name was Jen and lived in Norwood.

Bribaby (Stripper) said she is now working days at NYNY and want to meet first in the club, as expected.Bribaby invited me to visit her at NYNY but I said I had not been in a place like that in several decades. I can always get private shows as part of my arrangement.

Nando 1 is the bottom of the Hernando rating scale which was described early in the Richmond SB thread. Nando1's are women who are in desperate financial shape and will always cause drama. They typically have one or more kids, no job, are about to be evicted, may or may not have a drug problem. They have no life skills which lead them to always be living on the edge. They are the worst choice you could make for a SB despite their willingness to accept low amounts and regardless of how attractive they are. Nando1 is now part of the jargon even after the rest of his scale has fallen into disuse.

JoeBogus
08-08-15, 13:19
This flake reached out to me with an excuse for standing me up on my first try at a M&G and then crickets after I responded setting a time for a new meet. She finally got back to me and we had a time set for today. Another no show. I'm done with her.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb47ff6f/view

EuroInCincy
08-09-15, 18:05
I got her private pictures and on one of them it looked as if she has a something black under her jaw.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1d36f7e/view?conversation-inbox

I got this response.

"Ok I don't have a beard you fucking idiot that's a shadow obviously don't waste your time messaging me bc I am not interested in you too old for me for any amount of money. ".

Atleast I know she is out of my price range.

Fido2
08-10-15, 04:29
Nikki another stripper looking for substantial donation.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e5c395001/view

Works at a club s of dayton. Was bitchn how little she gets tipped her for dances. Clearly looking for high roller.

BamBam
08-10-15, 10:58
I got her private pictures and on one of them it looked as if she has a something black under her jaw.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1d36f7e/view?conversation-inbox

I got this response.

"Ok I don't have a beard you fucking idiot that's a shadow obviously don't waste your time messaging me bc I am not interested in you too old for me for any amount of money. ".

Atleast I know she is out of my price range.I exchanged PM's with her a month ago. At that time, she was a 'no sex' SB. She claimed she had been to dinner with four different men, had no sex and made $15 K in three months. I wished her luck and moved on. She has nice pics tho'.

MisforMaster
08-11-15, 14:06
Jessica: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eac6ef601/view.

Wanted $300 to get a hotel room for a week while her place was getting fixed. Compulsive liar. Nice rack, though (complete with tattoos of stars blasting out of her vag. A nice touch, I guess).

Tesa: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e87f22001/view.

Oh god. Where do I begin?

Racist as all hell. While I'm white, we had a black server when I took her out for dinner and she damn near went into full-on KKK meltdown. Kids taken away from CPS. Full on crazy ***** former stripper mode.

ChickaAmante
08-11-15, 17:03
Well the first profile you share spells 'waste' as 'waist' . And she wants $$$ LOL.

A few more to add to the roster -.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4407e2b/view - nando 1. 30-40 lbs heavier, 3-5 years older than the pics on her profile... I gave some consolation money (shouldn't have actually but fell for the emotional plea) and moved on... I wouldn't do her even if she paid me cash :(.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e37e941e/view -- roommate with the above one. Seemed nicer than pics. But she was on her way out. So not much to say about her but sounds like they are in trouble and pounce on any new SD profile that gets created!

Beware!


Jessica: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eac6ef601/view.

Wanted $300 to get a hotel room for a week while her place was getting fixed. Compulsive liar. Nice rack, though (complete with tattoos of stars blasting out of her vag. A nice touch, I guess).

Tesa: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e87f22001/view.

Oh god. Where do I begin?

Racist as all hell. While I'm white, we had a black server when I took her out for dinner and she damn near went into full-on KKK meltdown. Kids taken away from CPS. Full on crazy ***** former stripper mode.

D Nut
08-11-15, 21:20
Looks like the Sunshine that advertises here is also on SA.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e78695601/view?search-recently-active

BamBam
08-12-15, 09:31
Well the first profile you share spells 'waste' as 'waist' . And she wants $$$ LOL.

A few more to add to the roster -.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4407e2b/view - nando 1. 30-40 lbs heavier, 3-5 years older than the pics on her profile... I gave some consolation money (shouldn't have actually but fell for the emotional plea) and moved on... I wouldn't do her even if she paid me cash :(.

Beware!I got the first one (LD) to send some pictures to my private email. She looked too rough for me and I broke off contact. Later, she sent me several insulting PM's on SA. Meh.

BAM.

Waltmore
08-12-15, 23:01
I got the first one (LD) to send some pictures to my private email. She looked too rough for me and I broke off contact. Later, she sent me several insulting PM's on SA. Meh.

BAM.Lady Diomand (her spelling) is straight up batshit crazy. I took her to lunch and was nice to her which was a big mistake. I think that she wanted a serious relationship, as in way too fucking serious, this was not Match.com. When I told her that we weren't going anywhere she went off on me. I tried being nice to get her to stop. I then went ugly on her. She still wanted me to start all over and take her to breakfast. I finally had to block her number. Stay away from this one. As always.

LTL429
08-13-15, 08:00
Got lucky and snagged a newbie before you guys could corrupt her. Cost of date was 3 beers for me, 2 for her and then back to my place. I think I'll hang on to this on for a bit LOL.

Cincy
08-13-15, 08:57
That's good to know as I've been in communication with her too. She was straight up with me about needing sitter money and a ride right off, but its one more expense and that drives up costs.


https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4f11d401/view

Upon initial contact, had good communication. Called a one or two times but didn't answer. So texting was all. Decided a place. Of course car had been totaled (you guessed it, day before she joined SA). So I said ok, let's decide where to meet. Emphasized on dinner and groceries (clue 1, I missed it). Long story short, I drive all that way to the eastgate. She wouldn't come out of her crappy apartment complex until I spilled sugar since she had to pay sitter and now the sitter is upset (according to her). You get it. Too much drama and no payback in site, I ran out of there in no time!!

LTL429
08-13-15, 10:11
Not sure how you guys are hyper linking their profiles so I just put her screen name as subject. She is real. Willing to meet. Does not drive. Tiny 20 yr old. Like 4'10. This is not the same one I mentioned early for Wednesday night. I'm being stingy with her for now. Seniors pm for more on Macie Sorry guys 😂128514;.

CincyGuy50
08-13-15, 10:46
Thanks for the 'heads-up' on this one, gentlemen! She's been sending me messages on SA and we started to text a bit. I haven't had any time lately to meet with her, before I saw your reviews here. Now I won't even consider her. It seems like there's more 'issues' available on SA than on a magazine stand. Every one of those girls has so much drama going on, and only more money will solve it. I'm currently teasing another newbie along on there, but as one of you said before. "The sugar doesn't start until the panties hit the floor" seems like the best approach to me.

BamBam
08-13-15, 18:26
I think someone already warned us off this one but I already had a MnG set with her for this morning. She was really anxious to make sure I showed. After we met, I discused scammers with her and told her anyone asking for more than nominal amounts for a MnG was considered a scammer. She assured me that was not her. I later unwisely gave her $40 for babysitter and gas. (I know, I know.) She later blew my phone up with insults, etc. Cute girl but not just Nando1 but also BSC. Stay very clear; she will be nothing but trouble.

Link:https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4f11d401/view.

BAM.

EuroInCincy
08-13-15, 18:33
Thanks for the 'heads-up' on this one, gentlemen! She's been sending me messages on SA and we started to text a bit. I haven't had any time lately to meet with her, before I saw your reviews here. Now I won't even consider her. It seems like there's more 'issues' available on SA than on a magazine stand. Every one of those girls has so much drama going on, and only more money will solve it. I'm currently teasing another newbie along on there, but as one of you said before. "The sugar doesn't start until the panties hit the floor" seems like the best approach to me.Yes got in touch with her a long long time ago. Decided too much hassle. Stopped contact and then she keeps contacting me on and off.

So I have given her text a special tone. "silence".

EuroInCincy
08-14-15, 06:47
So had this Russian SB from SA for the last 3 months, and all she needed was had her rent paid, and the occasional dinner and bottle of wine. And yes during coffee one of the flow mongers here showed interest, but she was too good to share.

Daily text, good pictures and with the key of the apartment free access 24/7.

Then I go on a 4 week trip. The first week, great texts and then it dries up. A week later a 'dear john' text, because she found a regular guy to date and he already proposed.

So the moral of the story is. Enjoy any SB while you can. And move on.

Kc148
08-17-15, 00:28
I agree that there are fake women on the site that the site puts up. They must hire people to respond to messages for a fake profile, string it out as long as possible, finally agree to meet and then go silent.

There are also real women who want to meet, fu*k and get a gift. I have taken to pushing quickly for a meet. If they hesitate and want to message more, I move on. I also give them my hobby cell number and if they don't respond, write them off. I may lose a couple of real ones but I don't continue to waste time.

In the month that I signed up for which ends soon, I did not feel it was as successful as my winter month. But I still have fu*ked 5 with another 3 that I turned down cause they were just plain unattractive to me. I may continue to see one of them so no great gems. But hope always springs eternal.

KC.


I have had the same experience. I see a pattern here. No good! She goes silent way too quick!

I have seen 3-4 profiles that I had connected with, taken down already. Wonder if SA pays some brazillian kids or nigerian kids to put up profiles. Chat with SDs by texts. Bore them to death by not responding or sparsely responding and then taking the profile down. I sense conspiracy!!

Martin9646
08-17-15, 11:25
Nando 1 - beyond bbw, her dads place, supporting a habit.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e5be1e9e/view

MisforMaster
08-17-15, 12:38
So had this Russian SB from SA for the last 3 months, and all she needed was had her rent paid, and the occasional dinner and bottle of wine. And yes during coffee one of the flow mongers here showed interest, but she was too good to share.

Daily text, good pictures and with the key of the apartment free access 24/7.

Then I go on a 4 week trip. The first week, great texts and then it dries up. A week later a 'dear john' text, because she found a regular guy to date and he already proposed.

So the moral of the story is. Enjoy any SB while you can. And move on.If she's like any other Russian woman that I've dealt with, she'll be back.

Don't be afraid to walk out, don't be afraid to tell her to get out, and don't be afraid to find someone else.

MisforMaster
08-17-15, 12:42
I think someone already warned us off this one but I already had a MnG set with her for this morning. She was really anxious to make sure I showed. After we met, I discused scammers with her and told her anyone asking for more than nominal amounts for a MnG was considered a scammer. She assured me that was not her. I later unwisely gave her $40 for babysitter and gas. (I know, I know.) She later blew my phone up with insults, etc. Cute girl but not just Nando1 but also BSC. Stay very clear; she will be nothing but trouble.

Link:https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e4f11d401/view.

BAM.Ugh. This girl again.

Let me guess, is she still pulling the "Pulled muscle / car accident" scam?

Long story short: last year when I first started with SA, I got rinsed for about $1000 from her. It was so bad I had to block her from my phone. Nice to see that she's still on the site, just under a different name.

EuroInCincy
08-17-15, 18:50
Here is one who needs $ asap for her books next week.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9c2e4c01/view?conversation-inbox

Here is one who needs $ for a dr. 's visit asap and is ok to drop the panties on the floor.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/conversation.php?member_id=e093c2c01&mailbox=inbox

I am out of town. Enjoy.

BamBam
08-17-15, 18:54
Ugh. This girl again.

Let me guess, is she still pulling the "Pulled muscle / car accident" scam?

Long story short: last year when I first started with SA, I got rinsed for about $1000 from her. It was so bad I had to block her from my phone. Nice to see that she's still on the site, just under a different name.You nailed it. Claimed she had an accident and injured her right shoulder. Wasted my time.

BAM.

D Nut
08-17-15, 21:23
I am not really interested in a SD / SB arrangement. My question is really just out of curiosity than for getting "tips".

A lot of these girls request a "gift" at the initial meeting just to prove that the guys are serious about being a good SD (provider of funds). I get that. They want proof you're not just a tire kicker. However, has anyone ever asked the girls that do request a gift for proof, to prove that they (the girl) is also serious? After all, if you're going to give her a Prada bag (an example), then what proof do you get in return that she's actually looking for an arrangement, and not just there collecting proof from 100 guys without any intention of following through with the SD / SB arrangement?

John HandCock
08-17-15, 23:17
I am not really interested in a SD / SB arrangement. My question is really just out of curiosity than for getting "tips".

A lot of these girls request a "gift" at the initial meeting just to prove that the guys are serious about being a good SD (provider of funds). I get that. They want proof you're not just a tire kicker. However, has anyone ever asked the girls that do request a gift for proof, to prove that they (the girl) is also serious? After all, if you're going to give her a Prada bag (an example), then what proof do you get in return that she's actually looking for an arrangement, and not just there collecting proof from 100 guys without any intention of following through with the SD / SB arrangement?Never pay or gift a sb for just meeting. You can buy her dinner or drinks if you want but nothing more. This is like an interview and how many have ever been paid to go to an interview. Some sb will request gas or babysitter money and that's a no no also. Just my rules. Just to meet to talk and get to know each other, not a dime.

Waltmore
08-17-15, 23:23
There are also real women who want to meet, fu*k and get a gift. I have taken to pushing quickly for a meet. If they hesitate and want to message more, I move on. I also give them my hobby cell number and if they don't respond, write them off. I may lose a couple of real ones but I don't continue to waste time.
KC.I used to believe that I missed a few ladies by trying to use my hobby phone but in reality I now believe that is an erroneous belief. If they are indeed looking for a sugar daddy, they are not going to care the hows or whys of contact. Texting is far easier than logging on to the site and jumping through hoops to communicate. Any that won't contact you via phone, they can of course block their number should they so choose, have no intention of ever meeting. If they are seeking an arrangement they will communicate any way possible to meet that end. If they can not understand this simple bit of logic then you are better off without them. Just my opinion of course. As always.

MisforMaster
08-17-15, 23:44
You nailed it. Claimed she had an accident and injured her right shoulder. Wasted my time.

BAM.Sorry, man. I didn't put one and one and one together until I saw the posts, otherwise, I would have mentioned it sooner.

MM.

MisforMaster
08-18-15, 00:00
I am not really interested in a SD / SB arrangement. My question is really just out of curiosity than for getting "tips".

A lot of these girls request a "gift" at the initial meeting just to prove that the guys are serious about being a good SD (provider of funds). I get that. They want proof you're not just a tire kicker. However, has anyone ever asked the girls that do request a gift for proof, to prove that they (the girl) is also serious? After all, if you're going to give her a Prada bag (an example), then what proof do you get in return that she's actually looking for an arrangement, and not just there collecting proof from 100 guys without any intention of following through with the SD / SB arrangement?That's difficult.

Here's the thing. A majority of the girls that I run into on SA have unrealistic expectations. While in Florida I've had a woman ask for a 10 K loan, had someone ask for a car, and had an interesting experience in dealing with the rinsers. In Cincinnati, I've had a lot of the same: someone who wanted me to buy her a house, someone who wanted me to pay her back mortgage payments to get her home from foreclosure, someone who scammed me out of $1500, and someone who tried to get me arrested but, there are one or two ones who are legitimately sugar babies.

My general philosophy is that I'll gladly give $40 or even $100 to pay for gas and whatever on the first date, but, the first date is for me to actually see if her pictures check out in person and to make sure that she's not a nando 1 or just plain old bat shit crazy *****. If I meet her and she's not completely crazy, cute, and laughs at my jokes, I'll usually talk to her about her compensation. I am very clear to repeat what she says to make sure that there are no miscommunications and then I let her know my hard limits and rules in all of this. I'll tell her about my "one strike" policy, and that for the first six months of this, if she fucks up once, it's over and there will be no goodbye -- just me blocking her phone number and walking away. I make sure that she knows that she'll generally get compensated every week (on Thursday), and that it's her responsibility to make sure that she has either a US Bank account, or she signs up for a prepaid card and provides me the details so that she can get paid.

The rule is basically like an escort for the first time -- it's pay for play until we're both comfortable. Period. End of story. If she's not comfortable with that in the beginning, it's not going to work out.

Realistically, I go out on meet and greet dinners / coffee / drinks / park / casino three to four times as week. I'll have my Florida sugar baby over two nights a week, my Cincinnati sugar baby over one or two nights a week, and that's usually enough for my social calendar.

MM.

Lebruno
08-18-15, 00:12
Interesting that you approach it pretty straight forward! Does it not cause a concern when you need to divulge your 'real' personal details when you transfer funds into her bank account?

Is there an issue with leaving a trail of transferring funds to a SB?

Also, how much of discretion is recommended during the initial contact with a potential SB just that she does not come back to haunt us later.


That's difficult.

Here's the thing. A majority of the girls that I run into on SA have unrealistic expectations. While in Florida I've had a woman ask for a 10 K loan, had someone ask for a car, and had an interesting experience in dealing with the rinsers. In Cincinnati, I've had a lot of the same: someone who wanted me to buy her a house, someone who wanted me to pay her back mortgage payments to get her home from foreclosure, someone who scammed me out of $1500, and someone who tried to get me arrested but, there are one or two ones who are legitimately sugar babies.

My general philosophy is that I'll gladly give $40 or even $100 to pay for gas and whatever on the first date, but, the first date is for me to actually see if her pictures check out in person and to make sure that she's not a nando 1 or just plain old bat shit crazy *****. If I meet her and she's not completely crazy, cute, and laughs at my jokes, I'll usually talk to her about her compensation. I am very clear to repeat what she says to make sure that there are no miscommunications and then I let her know my hard limits and rules in all of this. I'll tell her about my "one strike" policy, and that for the first six months of this, if she fucks up once, it's over and there will be no goodbye -- just me blocking her phone number and walking away. I make sure that she knows that she'll generally get compensated every week (on Thursday), and that it's her responsibility to make sure that she has either a US Bank account, or she signs up for a prepaid card and provides me the details so that she can get paid.

The rule is basically like an escort for the first time -- it's pay for play until we're both comfortable. Period. End of story. If she's not comfortable with that in the beginning, it's not going to work out.

Realistically, I go out on meet and greet dinners / coffee / drinks / park / casino three to four times as week. I'll have my Florida sugar baby over two nights a week, my Cincinnati sugar baby over one or two nights a week, and that's usually enough for my social calendar.

MM.

MisforMaster
08-18-15, 04:14
Interesting that you approach it pretty straight forward! Does it not cause a concern when you need to divulge your 'real' personal details when you transfer funds into her bank account?

Is there an issue with leaving a trail of transferring funds to a SB?

Also, how much of discretion is recommended during the initial contact with a potential SB just that she does not come back to haunt us later.Does it bother me? No -- it's all done through ACH / third party. My SB just sees it as income from ADP like a direct deposit from a paycheck if she uses a bank account, or, just loads from a bank account on a prepaid card. I don't really care about leaving a trail. But married SD's might care.

I don't use my first name until we've met; it's my last name only, and reservations will usually be made under my last name for dinner.

MM.

ChickaAmante
08-18-15, 06:33
I had warned about her in my previous posts. Sorry that you had to discover her Fugly self in person. Bad bad memory!


Nando 1 - beyond bbw, her dads place, supporting a habit.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e5be1e9e/view

ChickaAmante
08-18-15, 06:40
MM. You are handing them 40 or 100 for M&G? No wonder these Chicks develop these expectations of handouts for their FaceTime in person. I just schooled a gold digger last week. She was expecting a 200 deposit, to be used later if we clicked. And 100 just to meet. To prove I'm a genuine SD. And she cleans houses for a living. I'm like you work for so less and all of a sudden here on first meet your rate tops the rates of attorney initial consultation fees. Why? Needless to say, I didn't want to meet as she kept on her focus on money and told me that she's gotten much more (500 +) on first dates. And I kept wondering who are these SDs? . LOL. Just kidding my friend. We all have different budgets but it was interesting to see that you are willing to give 100 on first date before FC.


That's difficult.

Here's the thing. A majority of the girls that I run into on SA have unrealistic expectations. While in Florida I've had a woman ask for a 10 K loan, had someone ask for a car, and had an interesting experience in dealing with the rinsers. In Cincinnati, I've had a lot of the same: someone who wanted me to buy her a house, someone who wanted me to pay her back mortgage payments to get her home from foreclosure, someone who scammed me out of $1500, and someone who tried to get me arrested but, there are one or two ones who are legitimately sugar babies.

My general philosophy is that I'll gladly give $40 or even $100 to pay for gas and whatever on the first date, but, the first date is for me to actually see if her pictures check out in person and to make sure that she's not a nando 1 or just plain old bat shit crazy *****. If I meet her and she's not completely crazy, cute, and laughs at my jokes, I'll usually talk to her about her compensation. I am very clear to repeat what she says to make sure that there are no miscommunications and then I let her know my hard limits and rules in all of this. I'll tell her about my "one strike" policy, and that for the first six months of this, if she fucks up once, it's over and there will be no goodbye -- just me blocking her phone number and walking away. I make sure that she knows that she'll generally get compensated every week (on Thursday), and that it's her responsibility to make sure that she has either a US Bank account, or she signs up for a prepaid card and provides me the details so that she can get paid.

The rule is basically like an escort for the first time -- it's pay for play until we're both comfortable. Period. End of story. If she's not comfortable with that in the beginning, it's not going to work out.

Realistically, I go out on meet and greet dinners / coffee / drinks / park / casino three to four times as week. I'll have my Florida sugar baby over two nights a week, my Cincinnati sugar baby over one or two nights a week, and that's usually enough for my social calendar.

MM.

ChickaAmante
08-18-15, 06:45
My rule is. Sugar must flow both ways or not at all!! If they ask for a gift, I move on!! There are far too many gold diggers out there ...


I am not really interested in a SD / SB arrangement. My question is really just out of curiosity than for getting "tips".

A lot of these girls request a "gift" at the initial meeting just to prove that the guys are serious about being a good SD (provider of funds). I get that. They want proof you're not just a tire kicker. However, has anyone ever asked the girls that do request a gift for proof, to prove that they (the girl) is also serious? After all, if you're going to give her a Prada bag (an example), then what proof do you get in return that she's actually looking for an arrangement, and not just there collecting proof from 100 guys without any intention of following through with the SD / SB arrangement?

BamBam
08-18-15, 08:09
Sorry, man. I didn't put one and one and one together until I saw the posts, otherwise, I would have mentioned it sooner.

MM.Meh. She got me for gas money only. She must have really led you a chase.

I normally refuse any money for a first meeting. I especially refuse to offer anything if I am not sure I want to see them again. More than 2/3 of my meetings are busts and I am not paying for that. Occasionally, if the chick os hot and we've agreed to meet and on the allowance, I may show some generosity. However, it is a rare thing. Suga-baby simply has her pitch perfected. That's why I wanted everyone here to be warned.

BAM.

SimonPieMan
08-18-15, 09:14
Based on all the recent info about this site, I decided to sign up. I was just notified that these two from Owenton had viewed my profile. According to their profile, it was created today. Their handle is "bmwgreeb". I may have to upgrade my account just to check it out.

Simon.

BamBam
08-18-15, 10:08
MM. You are handing them 40 or 100 for M&G? No wonder these Chicks develop these expectations of handouts for their FaceTime in person. I just schooled a gold digger last week. She was expecting a 200 deposit, to be used later if we clicked. And 100 just to meet. To prove I'm a genuine SD. And she cleans houses for a living. I'm like you work for so less and all of a sudden here on first meet your rate tops the rates of attorney initial consultation fees. Why? Needless to say, I didn't want to meet as she kept on her focus on money and told me that she's gotten much more (500 +) on first dates. And I kept wondering who are these SDs? . LOL. Just kidding my friend. We all have different budgets but it was interesting to see that you are willing to give 100 on first date before FC.Could you provide a profile name or link? It would help us avoid her. Or in MM's case, give her a second look.

BamBam
08-18-15, 10:19
Based on all the recent info about this site, I decided to sign up. I was just notified that these two from Owenton had viewed my profile. According to their profile, it was created today. Their handle is "bmwgreeb". I may have to upgrade my account just to check it out.

Simon.I don't see them. The profile name doesn't show anything either. If you share a link, I will let you know if it is worth your while. I never gotten anywhere with the profiles that post two-for one.

BAM.

SimonPieMan
08-18-15, 10:31
I don't see them. The profile name doesn't show anything either. If you share a link, I will let you know if it is worth your while. I never gotten anywhere with the profiles that post two-for one.

BAM.https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e85cf5501/view/?utm_source=sa&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=viewed

BamBam
08-18-15, 11:06
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e85cf5501/view/?utm_source=sa&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=viewedIMO there are much better options.

SimonPieMan
08-18-15, 11:20
IMO there are much better options.There was just something about the one in the purple bikini that made it move.

MisforMaster
08-18-15, 12:44
MM. You are handing them 40 or 100 for M&G? No wonder these Chicks develop these expectations of handouts for their FaceTime in person. I just schooled a gold digger last week. She was expecting a 200 deposit, to be used later if we clicked. And 100 just to meet. To prove I'm a genuine SD. And she cleans houses for a living. I'm like you work for so less and all of a sudden here on first meet your rate tops the rates of attorney initial consultation fees. Why? Needless to say, I didn't want to meet as she kept on her focus on money and told me that she's gotten much more (500 +) on first dates. And I kept wondering who are these SDs? . LOL. Just kidding my friend. We all have different budgets but it was interesting to see that you are willing to give 100 on first date before FC.I'll usually give anywhere between $40-100 for a M / G, depending on how far out of the way she is. But it's one of the things that it depends on the girl, how long we've been talking, and how much she's got to travel.

Here's my thing -- I have no problem blowing 1 K on a chick to figure out that she's a gold digging psycho.

I'd rather spend the 1 K now than deal with someone who rinses me for 10-25 K (and I've seen it happen to one of my friends).

What's $40 to me? Honestly, it's not that much. I generally piss that away in food and drinks every day.

IDontLikeU
08-18-15, 13:44
When I deal with younger chicks, they all want money or "loans" or medicine or something for nothing. I even asked one why is this and she told me that it's easy to get old guys to give them things if they think they are going to get laid. I may lose a lot of girls this way BUT this keeps me from being played:

I tell each and every new one that there are no handouts just to talk, you want something then I want something.

Perform=donation, want a donation? Then she has to perform, no if's ands or buts. I don't care about her tuition, books, electric bill, rent, cellphone, gas, babysitter, that's not my problem. If a chick can't manage her money that's not my problem. Usually they have a drug problem.

This keeps me protected and it works. I learned from my mistakes. It also keeps the bat shit crazies at bay too.

BamBam
08-18-15, 16:21
I'll usually give anywhere between $40-100 for a M / G, depending on how far out of the way she is. But it's one of the things that it depends on the girl, how long we've been talking, and how much she's got to travel.

Here's my thing -- I have no problem blowing 1 K on a chick to figure out that she's a gold digging psycho.

I'd rather spend the 1 K now than deal with someone who rinses me for 10-25 K (and I've seen it happen to one of my friends).

What's $40 to me? Honestly, it's not that much. I generally piss that away in food and drinks every day.I usually don't offer money just to meet. I worry that it sets up a mindset of getting cash without delivering the sugar. Also, when I tried WYP, where the money was expected, I found most of the women just took the cash and disappeared. That said, I also have experienced about 1/3 ncns on MnG's. I can see where offering them some gas money would give them more of an incentive to show up. I guess I have more time than money at this point.

BAM.

LTL429
08-19-15, 10:09
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e5a1ab6c/view

Fun time. Real and Drama free. Reasonable too.

MisforMaster
08-19-15, 10:13
I usually don't offer money just to meet. I worry that it sets up a mindset of getting cash without delivering the sugar. Also, when I tried WYP, where the money was expected, I found most of the women just took the cash and disappeared. That said, I also have experienced about 1/3 ncns on MnG's. I can see where offering them some gas money would give them more of an incentive to show up. I guess I have more time than money at this point.

BAM.Yeah. WYP is full of girls rinsing for money. One of my SB's last year (beautiful redhead with massive boobs) mentioned that she was doing WYP four or five times a week (at $200/ pop and she'd have to get to give it up. In South Florida, I've met a lot of interesting girls on WYP, but, it's never gone to anything more than dinner and a phone call afterwards to tell them that I'm really not interested in spending $200/ night on them.

BamBam
08-19-15, 10:28
Yeah. WYP is full of girls rinsing for money. One of my SB's last year (beautiful redhead with massive boobs) mentioned that she was doing WYP four or five times a week (at $200/ pop and she'd have to get to give it up. In South Florida, I've met a lot of interesting girls on WYP, but, it's never gone to anything more than dinner and a phone call afterwards to tell them that I'm really not interested in spending $200/ night on them.Do you think she was telling the truth? I mean how many guys can there be in Cincinnati willing to offer that kind of money just for a date? I would think after a week or two she would have run through all of them (if there *is* that many.) Or was that in S. Florida? I have occasionally chatted with women who say they are making thousands per month from a Daddy but it was always some thing that ended just a little while ago. Of course, it is always combined with GPS. So there's that.

BAM.