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Tonylove465
10-04-12, 08:29
Was hoping that we could start a discussion on SB / SD relationships. Does anyone have any experience here that they'd like to share? I, for one, have thought long and hard (no pun intended) about this. I have done a little trolling on a SB / SD site without much success. I saw this topic / thread in another state and it appeared to be going strong.

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10-20-12, 15:00
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Hobbyist666
12-12-12, 16:49
Was hoping that we could start a discussion on SB / SD relationships. Does anyone have any experience here that they'd like to share? I, for one, have thought long and hard (no pun intended) about this. I have done a little trolling on a SB / SD site without much success. I saw this topic / thread in another state and it appeared to be going strong.This is a great topic. Surprising enough thats how I came to know my current wife. Before I met her I went out on a number of dates with girls from the sites. Never came away empty handed and never gave them money (other than dinner, drinks, etc.). Found some great woman from the sites.

TheDistance
12-27-12, 10:44
I'm personally a huge fan. I have had a lot of fun with some gorgeous non pro young ladies by simply taking them out on occasion and giving them an allowance that is way less than what a lot of hobbyists drop on Asian experiments and such. There have been duds, too, but generally I've had good luck with it.

LeeWill
12-27-12, 11:23
Thanks for starting the thread. I have been doing the sugar baby thing for a while now. I have had both good and bad experiences. I like it because it just feels "safer" then an escort that might be under watch for uncle Leo. It is also a lot more GFE when it works as you are normally their only "client".

Indplsgent4fu
12-29-12, 03:14
I'm personally a huge fan. I have had a lot of fun with some gorgeous non pro young ladies by simply taking them out on occasion and giving them an allowance that is way less than what a lot of hobbyists drop on Asian experiments and such. There have been duds, too, but generally I've had good luck with it.By Asian experiments do you mean AMPs? If so, then I must be under paying at the AMPs or over donating to a SB.

TheDistance
12-29-12, 23:12
By Asian experiments do you mean AMPs? If so, then I must be under paying at the AMPs or over donating to a SB.Really was referring to all the unsatisfied reviews. But SBs can run a wide range of cost for sure. However you can find some sweethearts that are looking for a good relationship with a guy who can be a gentleman and a reliable provider that will give you a month of couple times a week meetings for less than some of the pros reviewed here charge for an hour or two.

Fast Spa
12-29-12, 23:32
Really was referring to all the unsatisfied reviews. But SBs can run a wide range of cost for sure. However you can find some sweethearts that are looking for a good relationship with a guy who can be a gentleman and a reliable provider that will give you a month of couple times a week meetings for less than some of the pros reviewed here charge for an hour.That sugar babys are constantly calling you can I get a little usually 70 this happens to me 2 or 3 times a week thats after my weekly donation. Asians I know the price usually 100 to 160 depending on age and looks and they never call you!

TheDistance
12-29-12, 23:44
That sugar babys are constantly calling you can I get a little usually 70 this happens to me 2 or 3 times a week thats after my weekly donation. Asians I know the price usually 100 to 160 depending on age and looks and they never call you!I usually set an allowance or offer to pay one particular bill and I tell them that I understand that things can come up. If they need extra for something special then they need to come up with something special for me in return. I usually toss in a gift here or there to keep the enthusiasm up. For instance I helped one out with a reasonable down payment on a car she could afford and ended up with one of her friends joining in the fun a couple of times. Was a fantastic investment.

I changed the monthly cost in my last post a bit.

HappyMan40
01-31-13, 11:54
Good thread and I prefer the SD approach over traditional providers for a number of reasons. It's more intimate, same money for more frequent interactions than a traditional provider, and the girls tend to be better looking and younger.

You have to be very careful on the money / negotiations side and set clear boundaries early. Allowances are a bad idea, the girls then cancel and disappear. Money each time and occassional gifts is the way to go.

My best two recent ones were a 25 year old in Anderson, lives by the casino, very pale but great body and fun. I forget her screen name and can't find her on there. Fantastic oral. Other was a mid 20s college student named Haley. Lives on west side off of dandy trail. Big 420 user and I think that's where it all went. Beautiful smile and great body, although she is starting to gain some weight. Lots of fun, loves to party, and will go no condom (which I know is stupid by me) but she's worth it. Had a handle of hspesard and meowallnight, she disappears but usually reappears on the sites. Haven't seen her in a bit though and lost her number but would again in a second when she reappears.

TheCoach26
02-01-13, 11:01
Which websites are the best for finding a sugarbaby?

EarlyCuyler
02-01-13, 18:57
Ok, so I just signed up for one of these things. I have no idea how to approach someone. I guess the assumption could be made that they are there for the same thing that I am, but the profiles don't really say such. Do these things normally involve an actual date, an escort type of incall thingy, what? I'm not a smooth talker, never have been, but I am pretty outgoing and have some degree of intellect, so not sure how this would all factor into the whole thing.

Suggestions please.

HappyMan40
02-02-13, 12:11
Ok, so I just signed up for one of these things. I have no idea how to approach someone. I guess the assumption could be made that they are there for the same thing that I am, but the profiles don't really say such. Do these things normally involve an actual date, an escort type of incall thingy, what? I'm not a smooth talker, never have been, but I am pretty outgoing and have some degree of intellect, so not sure how this would all factor into the whole thing.

Suggestions please.Be friendly but assertive. Email them on he site and be nice and make no price or sex negotiations. Suggest lunch or drinks to see if you have chemistry and don't expect or ask for sex then. Then if you like then, cut your business deal. If they want you to bring money to a meet and greet, back away fast.

On incall, I think half do and half don't so if that's a priority to you get that settled on the initial meet. Both of mine recent SD hook ups did host. One girl in Anderson and her place was fine. Other girl west side (hspesard / meowallnight) and her place was fine but she had a big fat cat that would stare at me as I was having my intimate fun with her.

Good luck!

Tonylove465
02-04-13, 13:06
I too would like to know what's the best way to find a true SB?

I've been on SugarDaddy4you and it's like a crap shoot, a game that I don't want to play.

Some gals were asking "how much allowance / month" that I was willing to give and I hadn't even met them.

Some were just escorts finding a different way to market themselves.

Finding a "true"? SB is not easy.

That's kinda why I started this thread. So we could share ideas on how to go about finding one.


Which websites are the best for finding a sugarbaby?

DirkMcQuickley
02-14-13, 19:10
Which websites are the best for finding a sugarbaby?I cannot speak from personal experience. I've been slowly digging through all the subforums here on USA Sex Guide and it looks like the Richmond Virginia SD / SB Forum has a lot activity which I think we may all find useful:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

I'll keep digging through all the other forums and see if any other useful links can be added.

TheDistance
02-28-13, 18:25
I've actually had my best luck posting on craigslist. I don't go straight for the "SB" throat, but have met my two best by posting a "dance for me" ad for the first and a "massage" ad for the second. The first, the dancer, had never done anything like it before, but had danced ballet and jazz for 11 years, was proud of her body and thought it sounded like fun, we met for dinner, and ended up in a very fun relationship for about six months, until she got way too serious and started wanting to have my babies. This girl was the real deal. 23 years old, college student, pre-med for a PhD (rather than MD) , student senator, family was "Family of the Year", etc. The second had never given a massage before but wanted to try, I said sure, lowballed her on the price but she still bit. Ended up with me massaging her first and then lots of good times over the next few months, until my job posting there was over in December. She was a 21 year old daycare worker that liked going out with older men and liked being spoiled.

I'm attaching a couple of pictures of both for you to get an idea of the quality that $600/mth (plus whatever I spent actually taking her out) and $800 / mth (we never had a set amount, but that's about what my burn rate on her was) can provide. The first two pictures are of the daycare worker (~$800 mth), the second two (caramel skin) are of the student ($600/mth for her rent).


I too would like to know what's the best way to find a true SB?

I've been on SugarDaddy4you and it's like a crap shoot, a game that I don't want to play.

Some gals were asking "how much allowance / month" that I was willing to give and I hadn't even met them.

Some were just escorts finding a different way to market themselves.

Finding a "true"? SB is not easy.

That's kinda why I started this thread. So we could share ideas on how to go about finding one.

LuckyLou
02-28-13, 22:52
I'm attaching a couple of pictures of both for you to get an idea of the quality that $600/mth (plus whatever I spent actually taking her out) and $800 / mth (we never had a set amount, but that's about what my burn rate on her was) can provide. The first two pictures are of the daycare worker (~$800 mth), the second two (caramel skin) are of the student ($600/mth for her rent).If you don't mind me asking, what did those monthly amounts plus incidentals get you in terms of visits per month? And were these visits more GFE than Pro (sounds like they were, just curious for a little more detail). Also, did you pay the money up front, say first of the month for rent and hope the visits came after?

BTW, kudos to you! Both those Babies are smokin!

LL

LuckyLou
02-28-13, 22:56
The Richmond Virginia SD / SB Forum has a lot activity which I think we may all find useful:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

I'll keep digging through all the other forums and see if any other useful links can be added.Is a gold mine. Subscribe to it then take your time reading through all the past posts. The pussy is abundant my friends, the pussy is abundant.

LL

TheDistance
03-01-13, 00:26
2-4 times a week, total GFE relationship, going out for dinner, hanging out watching TV, spending the night on occasion, weekend trips, etc. The way I explain it with them when I suggest the idea is that I'm looking for a relationship that's caring, but stops short of the whole falling in love complication. We both have a responsibility to each other and I expect to be a priority, just as she should expect me to be responsible with my commitment to her. Beyond that I let things evolve pretty naturally. I always treat them like a lady, and I think that's part of the draw.

I'm always cautious up front, so I may start off on a "weekly" basis and know I may eat a visit. It's happened, I just accept it as part of the process. Once some trust is built, I don't mind shifting to a larger payment, like the rent up front. I'm also really quick to pull the plug if I feel like things are getting out of balance.

It's probably worth mentioning I've had some interesting disasters, too. For instance, I took a potential shopping, had a little bit of fun, and figured it would be interesting to evolve. Then, a few days later my phone starts blowing up with calls from the Hamilton County jail. I couldn't understand the name that was being left on my VM, but I realized, after a couple of days, I hadn't heard from my prospective SB and I looked up the inmate list. Sure enough, there she was, locked up for failure to appear. She continued to blow up my phone - I'm talking 30-40 calls per day - for a couple of weeks and then finally gave up. I wasn't about to bail someone out of jail after one meeting.


If you don't mind me asking, what did those monthly amounts plus incidentals get you in terms of visits per month? And were these visits more GFE than Pro (sounds like they were, just curious for a little more detail). Also, did you pay the money up front, say first of the month for rent and hope the visits came after?

BTW, kudos to you! Both those Babies are smokin!

LL

LuckyLou
03-01-13, 14:11
2-4 times a week, total GFE relationship, going out for dinner, hanging out watching TV, spending the night on occasion, weekend trips, etc.Nice, very nice. Thank you for contributing and for responding to the post.

LL.

P. S. Keep the photos coming;.p

Tonylove465
03-08-13, 08:51
Distance,

I have posted a couple ads on Craigslist. However, there are SO many men posting on there, it's seems to get lost. Also a lot of spam responses.

I like the idea though.

I wish more people would partake in this thread. I did notice a couple other cities posted a similar thread after I put this up.

I think that today there are many females our there that would be willing. It's just trying to find them. Seems that the younger generation is a little more accepting of these types of relationships.

I think one area that I would look into is waitresses. A lot of them are attending school and needing help with bills.

West Central
03-10-13, 22:01
I didn't even notice this thread down here at the bottom. I posted in the General reports that I've been trolling MyGirlFund lately. Seems to be the kind of place we're looking for. There are a LOT of camgirls on there, but with some time spent sifting and chatting a few up, there are working girls to be found. There's no location search which is frustrating, and it's definitely not a complete replacement for PoF, but the hunt is there and it's fun.

Tonylove465
03-14-13, 09:18
WC-

This sounds a lot like "WhatsYourPrice?"

A lot of work and playing games. Trying to weed out the scam, cams and phonies.

I know I'm probably looking for something that I will member find.

Good to hear from ya.

TL


I didn't even notice this thread down here at the bottom. I posted in the General reports that I've been trolling MyGirlFund lately. Seems to be the kind of place we're looking for. There are a LOT of camgirls on there, but with some time spent sifting and chatting a few up, there are working girls to be found. There's no location search which is frustrating, and it's definitely not a complete replacement for PoF, but the hunt is there and it's fun.

Member #4103
04-30-13, 13:47
I cannot speak from personal experience. I've been slowly digging through all the subforums here on USA Sex Guide and it looks like the Richmond Virginia SD / SB Forum has a lot activity which I think we may all find useful:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

I'll keep digging through all the other forums and see if any other useful links can be added.Already been said, but check out the Richmond, VA site for info on Sugarbabies. It is a gold mine.

And I would advise you to use seeking arrangement. Com. I've had way more success on that one than SD4Me which is mostly pros, bots etc.

Happy hunting,

HC

HollywoodGuy
05-08-13, 21:08
2-4 times a week, total GFE relationship, going out for dinner, hanging out watching TV, spending the night on occasion, weekend trips, etc. The way I explain it with them when I suggest the idea is that I'm looking for a relationship that's caring, but stops short of the whole falling in love complication. We both have a responsibility to each other and I expect to be a priority, just as she should expect me to be responsible with my commitment to her. Beyond that I let things evolve pretty naturally. I always treat them like a lady, and I think that's part of the draw.

I'm always cautious up front, so I may start off on a "weekly" basis and know I may eat a visit. It's happened, I just accept it as part of the process. Once some trust is built, I don't mind shifting to a larger payment, like the rent up front. I'm also really quick to pull the plug if I feel like things are getting out of balance.

It's probably worth mentioning I've had some interesting disasters, too. For instance, I took a potential shopping, had a little bit of fun, and figured it would be interesting to evolve. Then, a few days later my phone starts blowing up with calls from the Hamilton County jail. I couldn't understand the name that was being left on my VM, but I realized, after a couple of days, I hadn't heard from my prospective SB and I looked up the inmate list. Sure enough, there she was, locked up for failure to appear. She continued to blow up my phone. I'm talking 30-40 calls per day. For a couple of weeks and then finally gave up. I wasn't about to bail someone out of jail after one meeting.I just put $40 on the books for an old SB be of mine from 6 years ago. My, how the mighty have fallen.

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06-16-13, 04:12
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TheDistance
09-24-13, 13:04
Nice, very nice. Thank you for contributing and for responding to the post.

LL.

P. S. Keep the photos coming; . PHave been pretty busy with life lately so really haven't been around here a lot. But did want to share the latest success to again let you guys know what can be found with a little leg work and patience. She's 20, a junior at IUPUI, very smart, sweet, good student. Works out 2-3 times a week and is absolutely as solid as a rock. I see her 1-3 times a week, mostly restricted by my schedule. She's always on time (or even early, who ever heard of that?) , eager to please and is really very sexual and sexy for such a young woman. $150 / week and hasn't asked for a penny more.

Found on craigslist.

LuckyLou
09-24-13, 15:03
Have been pretty busy with life lately so really haven't been around here a lot. But did want to share the latest success to again let you guys know what can be found with a little leg work and patience. She's 20, a junior at IUPUI, very smart, sweet, good student. Works out 2-3 times a week and is absolutely as solid as a rock. I see her 1-3 times a week, mostly restricted by my schedule. She's always on time (or even early, who ever heard of that?) , eager to please and is really very sexual and sexy for such a young woman. $150 / week and hasn't asked for a penny more.

Found on craigslist.She is absolutely gorgeous. Congratulation on what sounds like a perfect union of supply and demand.

LL.

Ps. Keep those photos coming my man!

HollywoodGuy
09-24-13, 15:27
Have been pretty busy with life lately so really haven't been around here a lot. But did want to share the latest success to again let you guys know what can be found with a little leg work and patience. She's 20, a junior at IUPUI, very smart, sweet, good student. Works out 2-3 times a week and is absolutely as solid as a rock. I see her 1-3 times a week, mostly restricted by my schedule. She's always on time (or even early, who ever heard of that?) , eager to please and is really very sexual and sexy for such a young woman. $150 / week and hasn't asked for a penny more.

Found on craigslist.Just my type. Awesome

WhenWhen
09-24-13, 23:10
Please get her to pose more even if you can't show her face. Would love to see more of her ass, pussy and tits. Thanks.


Have been pretty busy with life lately so really haven't been around here a lot. But did want to the latest success to again let you guys know what can be found with a little leg work and patience. She's 20, a junior at IUPUI, very smart, sweet, good student. Works out 2-3 times a week and is absolutely as solid as a rock. I see her 1-3 times a week, mostly restricted by my schedule. She's always on time (or even early, who ever heard of that?) , eager to please and is really very sexual and sexy for such a young woman. $150 / week and hasn't asked for a penny more.

Found on craigslist.

TheDistance
10-01-13, 19:52
Please get her to pose more even if you can't show her face. Would love to see more of her ass, pussy and tits. Thanks.Took this after our meeting today. Not going to do a full "spread" but just wanted to show a little of the other side of the equation. By the way, those are real.

278358

WhenWhen
10-02-13, 00:06
Keep 'them coming. She's amazing!


Took this after our meeting today. Not going to do a full "spread" but just wanted to show a little of the other side of the equation. By the way, those are real.

278358

PillowTalk69
10-08-13, 08:03
Be careful as hot as that looks you could become a Baby Daddy real quick. Is she exclusive with you or do you share the fare for the month Hell I would travel for a piece of that myself. As I said You are one lucky man WW. PT

TheDistance
10-09-13, 08:54
Be careful as hot as that looks you could become a Baby Daddy real quick. Is she exclusive with you or do you share the fare for the month Hell I would travel for a piece of that myself. As I said You are one lucky man WW. PTI'm careful about it and she's pretty career minded. It's exclusive. She doesn't have time for a normal relationship so this scratches her itch and she is able to get her nails and hair done and accent her wardrobe. She works and that covers her living expenses. I'm just helping her enjoy some luxury.

DirkMcQuickley
10-26-13, 19:13
I finally completed the survey of all the subforums on USA Sex Guide and here are all the links that specifically cater to SD / SB relationships:

Highest Activity:

The Richmond Virginia board is clearly the hotbed of activity with 333 pages of reading at this time (link at bottom).

Modest Activity:

The Los Angeles California has a decent amount of activity with 29 pages of reading.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites

The Las Vegas Nevada board has 8 pages of reading.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World

Our Indianapolis board is next at 3 pages of activity.

Weak Activity:

Louisville Kentucky has a small board with only 1 page of reading.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10690-Sugar-Babies

Cincinnati Ohio has a small board with only 1 page of reading.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10668-Sugarbabies

The deadest board of all is in Seattle Washington (only two posts).

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10905-Sugar-Babies-and-Daddies-Advice-and-Reports

That's it. I was surprised that there were no SB / SD boards in big cities / states like New York, Texas and Washington DC. Ah well. Enjoy the reading. I know I will.


I cannot speak from personal experience. I've been slowly digging through all the subforums here on USA Sex Guide and it looks like the Richmond Virginia SD / SB Forum has a lot activity which I think we may all find useful:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

I'll keep digging through all the other forums and see if any other useful links can be added.

FancyTlc88
10-26-13, 23:36
Where do you find real sugar daddy? I would give him ton tlc. I wouldn't take him granted. No luck yet. ("Wild women do"Natalie Cole).

MoniRobles
07-25-15, 17:04
Arrangement, looking for young women, college student, with 41 old italian men for a "mutually beneficial relationship and mutually beneficial arrangement. The "mutual benefit" is an exchange of cash and gifts for companionship.

Private message if interested.

Freckle Freak
08-17-15, 13:38
Red from BP a week ago who I reported on is now in a real job. However she does have a profile on SA under the same handle. Those of you that utilize that site could possibly make contact with her. Her pic is just like the ones on BP. Do a search for Indy redheads within 50 miles. Same colts jersey with long red hair.

FF.

P.S. Have fun with some freckles if you make contact.

Freckle Freak
08-17-15, 13:53
This is a site where those of us are seeking arrangement with a sugar baby and it is a (. Com) address.

FF.

P.S. There are some nice freckled women on there.

FancyTlc88
08-18-15, 16:29
Where do you find real sugar daddy? I'm looking for real sugar daddy arragement.

IndyGuy123
09-12-15, 01:19
When a member said they couldn't find yaya69, I went looking on SA as I knew I had seen her out there. Oh my am I glad I looked. I just happened to run across a chick I met online about a year ago. At the time, she was not meeting anyone in person. It appears that has changed. I do not even have a paid SA account but it doesn't matter as I still have her as a contact on a well known social app.

I will share the two pics I have of her that do not include her face.

Indy Guy CEO of IGI (I am going to love adding this on to the corporation).

Freckle Freak
09-12-15, 01:24
Ok both Nostra and JaxSon07 make some very good points. Chelli is right about filling in the blanks on his post, but the point here is if you refer to them as such to their face then they are gone and you don't get the golden prize. So here are some suggestions.

1. Move the Sugar Baby and SA discussion to this forum. They are not Escorts, Backpage, Streetwalkers, Strippers so thus they don't belong on those forums.

2. These special providers don't want to be labeled that way or any of the above and if you do they are gone. They are Sugar Babies and thus are paid for a date not for sex. Hell there are guys on these sights that pay thousands of dollars to only spend time with these ladies with no sex involved. That's just the way it is. Hobbyists are smarter and should play smarter.

3. Do NOT use handles of any SB's or SA's on this site. Obviously someone spooked a SA and her profile is hidden or down. Some idiot on here will eventually tell one of these SB's about this site and if handles are all over it then before long social media will eat it up and these ladies will know.

4. Do NOT give out phone numbers of these ladies at random. I got one phone number and thought "how in the hell was I going to call or text her without telling her how I got the number"? I have received numbers for ladies on SA from friends who had already checked with the lady first to see if it was ok to be introduced. A random call out of the blue will scare them off.

5. Use PM's to communicate ladies handles and other info. Do not put it in open forum. You can tell a story without names or being specific. Treat these ladies similar to UTR's. No open posting of handles, names and contact info.

6. Sign up on the SA site because most hobbyists are not going to share much info without knowing you and without checking it out with their SB. These are not regular providers and most will get very pissed off if they know their info is being passed around. There are a few that are no better than BP ladies. Hell one is basically homeless and also advertises on CL, but these types are few and far between.

7. Follow the link and read the forum it's very helpful. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ.

If we all behave ourselves instead of making this a witch hunt we can all benefit. Use your big heads not the little one.

FF.

P.S. There are some very hot freckled ladies on SA.

JaxSon07
09-12-15, 07:17
Ok both Nostra and JaxSon07 make some very good points. Chelli is right about filling in the blanks on his post, but the point here is if you refer to them as such to their face then they are gone and you don't get the golden prize. So here are some suggestions.

1. Move the Sugar Baby and SA discussion to this forum. They are not Escorts, Backpage, Streetwalkers, Strippers so thus they don't belong on those forums.

2. These special providers don't want to be labeled that way or any of the above and if you do they are gone. They are Sugar Babies and thus are paid for a date not for sex. Hell there are guys on these sights that pay thousands of dollars to only spend time with these ladies with no sex involved. That's just the way it is. Hobbyists are smarter and should play smarter.

3. Do NOT use handles of any SB's or SA's on this site. Obviously someone spooked a SA and her profile is hidden or down. Some idiot on here will eventually tell one of these SB's about this site and if handles are all over it then before long social media will eat it up and these ladies will know.

4. Do NOT give out phone numbers of these ladies at random. I got one phone number and thought "how in the hell was I going to call or text her without telling her how I got the number"? I have received numbers for ladies on SA from friends who had already checked with the lady first to see if it was ok to be introduced. A random call out of the blue will scare them off.

5. Use PM's to communicate ladies handles and other info. Do not put it in open forum. You can tell a story without names or being specific. Treat these ladies similar to UTR's. No open posting of handles, names and contact info.

6. Sign up on the SA site because most hobbyists are not going to share much info without knowing you and without checking it out with their SB. These are not regular providers and most will get very pissed off if they know their info is being passed around. There are a few that are no better than BP ladies. Hell one is basically homeless and also advertises on CL, but these types are few and far between.

7. Follow the link and read the forum it's very helpful. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ.

If we all behave ourselves instead of making this a witch hunt we can all benefit. Use your big heads not the little one.

FF.

P.S. There are some very hot freckled ladies on SA.Good points, I agree with all of them. Of all the gals I have been with from SA, nearly all of them would have been extremely pissed and shut it down had I asked them if I could share their info with someone else. They like pretending in front of you that you are the only one, they don't want you to know they are seeing someone else cause it seems slutty to them. So through PM, two trusted members could exchange info on who's flaky, who's got issues, what they're paying for time with a certain gal, who has GP syndrome, etc.

Once this forum gets up and running, I may start posting some activity updates every few days. Currently I have 2 in my active lineup that I've been banging for a few weeks now and 2 on the sidelines that are ready for gametime as soon as our schedules allow. One of the young ladies in my active lineup, I haven't paid since the first date. There was a certain gift she wanted, it cost me about $400. When I gave it to her I made a big deal out of the fact I was fronting her the gift and I better be able to trust her to hold up her end of the deal, blah, blah, blah. She was so excited to get it she suggested t 4 dates in return, I threw out 5 and she happily accepted. And of course, when I say "date" I'm talking about 2 or 3 hours at whatever the cheapest hotel is that day.

Of course all them aren't this easy. One that I'm trying to get in my active lineup is playing hardball on the amount, but I'm sticking to my guns hard at 150 cause she's just middle of the pack as far as looks. She's white, has auburn hair and huge cans, so a little different than the typical petite, tight, Latino, Asian or African American I tend to gravitate towards.

John HandCock
09-12-15, 09:57
Here is a suggestion for your forum on SB.

If you really want a helpful forum provide links to the sb profile on whatever site you contact her. The link along with info on whether you obtained, such as did you actually meet or just text, was she asking to be paid for a m&g, description, was her pics old, actually her, better looking or worse than pics on profile. Did she waste your time and go silent just before meeting. Was she realistic on whatever she was seeking for an arrangement, was she a pro, utr, seeking one sd, looking for ltr, or open to one time meetings LOL. This is just some things that can be addressed in a review which is helpful to members of your forum. It gives them some idea as to whether they want to purse said baby or not waste their time.

IMHO this is much more useful information than some forums which doesn't post these things. Some forums have some useful info but make good reading in the fiction / non fiction catagory turning into a sausage fest of of who is fucking the most sb.

Just my suggestion.

JaxSon07
09-12-15, 14:57
Here is a suggestion for your forum on SB.

If you really want a helpful forum provide links to the sb profile on whatever site you contact her. The link along with info on whether you obtained, such as did you actually meet or just text, was she asking to be paid for a m&g, description, was her pics old, actually her, better looking or worse than pics on profile. Did she waste your time and go silent just before meeting. Was she realistic on whatever she was seeking for an arrangement, was she a pro, utr, seeking one sd, looking for ltr, or open to one time meetings LOL. This is just some things that can be addressed in a review which is helpful to members of your forum. It gives them some idea as to whether they want to purse said baby or not waste their time.

IMHO this is much more useful information than some forums which doesn't post these things. Some forums have some useful info but make good reading in the fiction / non fiction catagory turning into a sausage fest of of who is fucking the most sb.

Just my suggestion.I agree that it would be more helpful, but I feel it would ruin a good thing for the guys who are working the SA scene. Like FF mentioned earlier, someone from here no doubt will spill the beans to a girl and she'll be gone. It just happened earlier this week.

I'm kind of viewing this thread as more of a tips, tricks, and advice type thread. When I first started on SA I was wasting a lot of time, effort, and money. After some practice, and utilizing a lot of tips from the Richmond VA forum, my success rate skyrocketed. And when I say success, I mean finding the girls that are ready to move straight to a good time with minimal messaging and at a price much cheaper than a similar quality provider. Not all guys are into this sort of thing, but some of us are.

John HandCock
09-13-15, 00:07
I agree that it would be more helpful, but I feel it would ruin a good thing for the guys who are working the SA scene. Like FF mentioned earlier, someone from here no doubt will spill the beans to a girl and she'll be gone. It just happened earlier this week.

I'm kind of viewing this thread as more of a tips, tricks, and advice type thread. When I first started on SA I was wasting a lot of time, effort, and money. After some practice, and utilizing a lot of tips from the Richmond VA forum, my success rate skyrocketed. And when I say success, I mean finding the girls that are ready to move straight to a good time with minimal messaging and at a price much cheaper than a similar quality provider. Not all guys are into this sort of thing, but some of us are.Its your forum, and you can take it in any direction you want. If I want tips or entertaining reading I go to the Richmond or Hollywood forum. If I'm traveling and want actual helpful info I check out the Cincinnati, Knoxville or Baltimore sa forums.

Oh on scaring a sb off there are dozens that are new daily posting profile s.

I also read that SA has a section for the ladies to pass on like information on the SD. Which guy's are cheap, douchebags, or what they consider the real deal. They have a system to grade us so I guess it goes both ways.

Member #4893
09-16-15, 22:03
I've gotten a lot of PM's the past few days, I'm still a newbie to posting on the forums so I didn't even realize I had any messages until today. I'm trying to get back to everyone.

I haven't talked to that many girls that I could just offer 150 and they would jump at it. Although there have been a few (actually, there's a couple I talked to last week that jumped at 100, but they are not quite my type). But it does take a little game to settle around 150 or 200. I'm still fairly young (very early 40's and very physically fit; so I admit that probablyhelps with the very young gals. So I prefer not talking about an amount until we meet for coffee or a drink. Then I treat it like I'm meeting a gal on a regular date and spend a little time trying to build a good connection before we discuss money. When the topic comes up, I talk about how I don't want it to feel transactional, or like I'm seeing an escort, or how I'm not into spending big money just for 1 or 2 times, and how I am conservative with my "allowance" as I want to be able to continue things on a regular basis. I start at 150 every time, and stick to my guns unless it's someone I really want to get with, then if I don't hear from them in a few days I'll up it to 200, then that's it. And I still think that's a pretty good deal, because all of they gals I have seen will stay for at least 2 hours, often 3 or more if you have developed a friendship and good communication.

Indy Chap
09-17-15, 11:39
I've been reading the forum and I joined up for SA. I have my first M&G next week. What do I say if I run into someone I know who sees me with a 21 year old gorgeous blonde at lunch? Some good excuses would help!

Freckle Freak
09-17-15, 11:49
I've been reading the forum and I joined up for SA. I have my first M&G next week. What do I say if I run into someone I know who sees me with a 21 year old gorgeous blonde at lunch? Some good excuses would help!On who sees you with her. "Interview for a job"; "Daughters or Nieces friend", "helping out a friends daughter who is interested in my industry or needs help with her resume (have friends name to help provide cover); "customers daughter who needs help"; "new corporate philanthropy project meeting"; "lunch with a secretary at work"; damn must I go on!

FF.

P.S. If she has freckles then you are meeting with her about the spots on her skin that make her feel ugly cause most women don't like their freckles!

Tonylove465
09-28-15, 10:13
Hello gentlemen.

I started this thread 10/12. I glad to see it is finally taking off. I just wanted to add my $0. 02.

I've been dabbling with SA for about a year now. And I must say that I've, overall, enjoyed the experience.

However, there is a lot of extra work that goes into it. As much as I love meeting young, beautiful girls looking for assistance. Its sometimes nice just to call up my lontime provider friend to get what I want and not jump thru a lot of hoops.

Anyway, just wanted to wish everyone luck with your ventures. Please feel free to contact me with questions.

Take care. Be safe.

-TonyLove.

NiceGuy52
10-03-15, 04:32
You are a moderator? Wow what is usag doing? Just kidding we should have a beer together and forget about the past.


Hello gentlemen.

I started this thread 10/12. I glad to see it is finally taking off. I just wanted to add my $0. 02.

I've been dabbling with SA for about a year now. And I must say that I've, overall, enjoyed the experience.

However, there is a lot of extra work that goes into it. As much as I love meeting young, beautiful girls looking for assistance. Its sometimes nice just to call up my lontime provider friend to get what I want and not jump thru a lot of hoops.

Anyway, just wanted to wish everyone luck with your ventures. Please feel free to contact me with questions.

Take care. Be safe.

-TonyLove.

Romeoinsd
10-07-15, 23:00
Well, after getting tired of the latest BP choices and reading up on this thread, I finally took the plunge!

Signing up for that 30 days (non-recurring) $70 was a hard pill to swallow, but wow! It has already paid itself off!

Met a young 20 yr old single mom who was behind on bills. Blonde southern gal that looked very much like Reese Witherspoon at her finest. Perfect straight white teeth, perky oversized "be" titties, and not an ounce of fat or baby damage on her. Probably the best body I have seen in a long time. I almost don't believe she has a kid, but she showed me the photos.

She gladly accepted $/ hr, and she acted like she was my GFE wife that hadn't seen me after a 2 year tour in Iraq. Her BBBJ technique was amazing as she stared straight into my eyes (at my request).

Please do not PM me about her. I texted back and forth with her for about 2 weeks until she finally felt comfortable meeting me, so her info is not something I can share with everyone.

So why am I posting this? Just to let others know that these SA veterans are correct! If you put in a little effort and energy, SA is a gold mine! Sure, there are the fakes that want you to Moneygram them the donation first (in broken english). I play around with them until they leave me alone.

I am already lining up some others, but quite honestly, if I can just keep hitting this Reece Witherspoon for a while, SA has served me well.

Any drawbacks?

I have found two so far. The first one is minor. When you first sign up, you will start shooting off PM's to all the profiles you fall in love with. The site has (spam?) guards and limits the amount of new PM's per day. But it's a daily high limit, and I just continued on day 2. But once you have established a PM thread with someone, then there are no limits.

Second, since these girls are not *true* working girls, a lot of them will want a pic of you. If being discreet and anonymity is of extreme importance to you, I suggest finding some pics of a similiar likeness to you and using them. Is it cheating? Yeah, but I think the discreetness in this department does not need to be explained. If she doesn't like you after meeting for coffee, just shake hands and walk away.

For the record, I have no affiliation to SA. Just a happy customer.

IndyGuy123
10-08-15, 14:41
Signing up for that 30 days (non-recurring) $70 was a hard pill to swallow, but wow! It has already paid itself off!Damn! It tells me like 45. I wonder if that is because I have had a basic membership for awhile and they are enticing me to upgrade at a discount.

There definitely seems to be a lot of ladies that are very eager. I only have a basic membership but have been favorited by like 50 ladies and have about 30 PMs waiting on me to upgrade. Of course I don't have a picture loaded. If I did, none of them would contact me.

The best thing about SA, lots of redheads! .

Indy Guy.

Indy Tech
10-08-15, 22:29
I too took the 70 dollar plunge, and I agree with Romeoinsd, it has already paid for itself three weeks in. Here are a few of my favorites for examples:

I have been with a 26 year old freckled spinner. Cute as hell, who has no problem seeing me for a couple hours for $ -she is my sex only girl.

My ATF is a thick 20 year old chick, all she wants is some adventure, no cash, no gifts, just show her a good time. She goes on weekend road trips with me, last week it was Cincinnati. She is my road trip gal.

I also have a 25 year old "butch " spinner, she is ok on the looks department, excellent body, nice rack. I don't normally go for the butch type, but between the two of us, we can pretty much pick up on any girl we want. Together we are an unstoppable force, able to easily conquer any bi girl we see. Excellent times with this gal. She still lives at home, no car, no job. The arrangement with her is just, get her out of the house, I take her shopping, spending minimal, compared to the payoff I get with her. She is my bar hopping gal.

This weekend I have a 25 year old mixed Hispanic girl to meet and greet.

SA has made it hard to go back to my old mongering ways, because it's so easy to score. Like ducks in a barrel.

I don't think I'll ever bang another girl over thirty again.

I'm not trying to brag, I'm not affiliated with the site, I'm just trying to express to my fellow mongers, its worth the cash if you have some game.

On a side note, during my first visit with my freckled redhead spinner, I gave her some satisfying DATY. I couldn't help while I was down there if I was having some IndyGuy or FF sloppy seconds. Her freckles have wings!

Indy Tech
10-08-15, 23:31
DO IT!

If you are considering, here are some tips from my experience that I will share.

If you go on the site from the internet, it's 69.99 for a 30 day subscription. If you download the app, it gives you cheaper options for fewer days, but if you purchase 30 days off of the app, its 99.99 .

You have to have a subscription to communicate with the babies.

I'm divorced and have nothing to hide, so I have a profile pic. If you have an SO, or want to be discreet, paying customers have the option to upload a picture and lock it from being visible. You can unlock the pic for any baby you want to, they just have to send you a request to see it.

I recommend before you begin a membership, go to the SA section on this site in the Richmond Virginia thread. There is a plethora of information about conducting yourself with the babies. I have game, but found it useful because the site was new to me. There is a section buried in the thread that covers all aspects of, how to contact successfully, negotiate, weed out, etc etc.

Avoid the profiles with the terms, spoiled, princess, allowance, usually going to be a gold digger.

The professional ladies will try to negotiate a price before you meet, they are going to treat you like an escort would, have time limits, and rush you out the door. I try to avoid these too, but at times, its hard to say no to a gorgeous 21 year old hardbody begging for sex for just a $ donation.

The prime babies are actually easy to find, gals needing extra cash, financially strapped, going through hard times. They will give you the most bang for your buck, if you treat them well, they will give you freebies, do overnights for practically nothing.

It's all about game, if you do things right, you will be rewarded, no matter what you look like. I'm 45 , overweight, not ugly, but not Brad Pitt either. I have had no problem scoring with 8's, 9's, with very little effort or out of pocket expense.

Think about this, your average 20 something girl on this site doesn't want a 20 something guy. The guys their age are generally douche bags, interested more in video games and putting rear wings on their Honda civics. Still little boys. The girls that are on this site, are looking for a mature man, to show them a good time, spend a little money on them, and most of all, give them attention.

Take advantage my fellow mongers, take this plunge and run with it. If you do it right, you will have more prospective dates than you have time for.

DO IT!

IndyGuy123
10-11-15, 08:45
On a side note, during my first visit with my freckled redhead spinner, I gave her some satisfying DATY. I couldn't help while I was down there if I was having some IndyGuy or FF sloppy seconds. Her freckles have wings!Normally if they have freckles and red, you are talking sloppy thirds at best. Despite the best of my efforts, he always beats me to the prize. Then he will so gracefully inform me of her knowing I lost again.

In this case, I think you can knock me out of the equation. I have been putting most all my efforts on a grand prize.

Indy Guy.

Indy Tech
10-11-15, 13:36
Normally if they have freckles and red, you are talking sloppy thirds at best. Despite the best of my efforts, he always beats me to the prize. Then he will so gracefully inform me of her knowing I lost again.

In this case, I think you can knock me out of the equation. I have been putting most all my efforts on a grand prize.

Indy Guy.Good to know I beat at least one of you pros to those freckles. She is a semi pro though, so I'm sure I was having sloppy somebody hehe. Good luck with your grand prize! I'm trying to mold my ATF into a perfect fit for me. She's young and impressionable, so it's been kinda easy so far!

Romeoinsd
10-11-15, 14:44
One thing that I do love about the civilian girls is that they typically don't use a hobby phone (like a pro) and since they are all attention wh*res, they all connect their # to their FB account. I truly hope FB never deletes that search function, but I am sure its coming in the near future.

It's a fountain of knowledge!

They will even Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, etc. Which allows me to research them without even meeting them. I had several girls lined up to meet me after I saw their "hot" pics on SA, but after seeing their 100+ up-to-date photos which were not indicative of the pics they were using, I told them I would pass.

Even if you already have game, you can find out if they have daddy issues, car issues, 420 issues, 3 x per day Chipotle issues, and use them all to your advantage. One girl said to me "It's like you already know me and know what i am thinking!"

Another trick is asking if you can email them. Their email is typically "MyFirstName.MyLastName69@gmail.com" or something similiar that allows you to figure out who they are.

Now, before anyone be-grudges me the "Hobbyist Privacy Riot Act", keep it mind I am only using this info to try and avoid SCAMS / ROBS, as well as trying to see if they are representative of who they say they are. Hey, they signed up for the website, right?

One girl was from Lafayette and she tried getting me to moneygram her gas money so she could come see me. Told her I would compensate in person. She gave every excuse in the book, even called me a "splenda daddy" and not a sugar daddy. Little did she know that I had already researched her (via FB) and when I addressed her by her real name, she f*ckin flipped out on me when I call her out on her con-game. It was pretty funny.

I have a tentative meet-and-greet with a 19 yr old blonde that reminds me of Rebecca Romijn. This chick tweets like 30 x per day. I already know her likes, dis-likes, *love's*, *hate's*. I even know her favorite fast food chain, so I have gotten her a modest gift card and I haven't even had a sit-down with her.

It's like taking panties, I mean, candy from a baby. It's almost not even fair.

I know for some of you guys, all this sounds like a lot of work and effort and you are rolling your eyes. But I honestly have a lot more time than money, and most of these young, broke hotties are not going to break my wallet and are most likely going to give me more mileage per hour than a BP girl or most providers.

Happy Hobbying!

Indy Tech
10-11-15, 15:22
I agree Romeoinsd, it is almost unfair, it's so easy. I did the same exact research on all that I can before we met. It just adds to your game, when you can find out all their likes, dislikes before your first meeting. I think that's why my ATF and I hit it off so well at our first meeting. I creeped her Twitter, FB, and instagram pages, gathered all the important information in my head. I knew exactly what to talk about, where to suggest to go, what to bring her as a gift. I bought her a cheap $15 bracelet and gave it to her on our second date, it's been on her wrist ever since. I get selfies from her daily, and I can always catch a glimpse of it.

It's too easy, I have saved hundreds in just a few short weeks. I wish I would have joined the site sooner. I had seen it about a year before, but figured it was just another bot site. Man was I ever wrong, no bots, and plenty of babes.

Just stay away from the gold diggers, one gal actually has on her profile description " I'm looking for 10,000 a month " , what a joke! If she actually does look like her profile pic, I wouldn't give the chick ten bucks.

Mwdude
10-12-15, 09:39
"Splenda daddy". That right there is damn funny.

IndyGuy123
10-12-15, 11:16
"Splenda daddy". That right there is damn funny.No the funny part is I alsonrG referred to myself as that. I frequently visit a lady that has been talked about on this site at her "day job". Last time, I was there her manager called to the back and said her sugar daddy was there. I told him I was a Splenda daddy at best.

Indy Guy.

Geneva Guy
10-12-15, 12:17
"Splenda daddy". That right there is damn funny.I checked, Splenda cost more per pound than sugar. So its a compliment really hehehehe.

I'm in upstate NY but no SA thread there (these guys in this are are too cheap ass to join). I agree, one month in SA lead to some good stuff, my favorite. A black girl that loves oral sex, swallows cum like soda and loves to fuck. And lives near me and she can host. WOW. And not a wallet breaker.

I appreciate all the SD / SA boards on ISG, you guys have been a big help.

Thanks.

GG.

Indy Chap
10-13-15, 09:42
I was looking for a steady weekly get-together to replace the 3-year UTR weekly arrangement I recently lost to a new BF. I tend to skew older and the pickins are a bit slimmer, but I found someone great and the last month has been terrific. I hope this goes on for a long time. I could see how SA could turn into a "hit and quit" site, but for what I was looking for, it's been good. I'm at $$. 5 per visit, plus hotel, which is pricey, but worth it.

If that other site was still around, I would still occasionally dabble, but now that it's gone and there's no replacement in sight, this current situation will work. Hopefully someone comes up with a new site in the near future. The USA Adult Classifieds are not terrible, of course, but they don't come close to the utility of NR.

Indy Tech
10-13-15, 18:04
It's pretty weak, but I thought some might be interested.

https://www.letstalksugar.com/forums/forum/advice/

Romeoinsd
10-14-15, 23:15
I hope this goes on for a long time. I could see how SA could turn into a "hit and quit" site, but for what I was looking for, it's been good. I'm at $$. 5 per visit, plus hotel, which is pricey, but worth it.As I have entered the Sugarbowl, it can definitely be a different dynamic than typical hobbying.

For example, I only have one SA account, but once I get her # thru PM, I will do recon via my 5 other numbers. "Hey, I was talking to you on SA before I cancelled my account, how are you?" These girls are talking to so many guys you can easily get away with it. And the funny part? These girls are even BIGGER liars than BP girls. I imagine its because they are trying to maintain their "good girl" image.

The one SB I reported on earlier lives 1 hour away from me. I told her that if she lived closer or acually in Indy, she could really bank some more. She told me "what do you mean? I am only seeing you! I am not a prostitute!" Little does she know that she has been discussing donations and menu options with my 5 other "friends".

Another potential SB rainchecked me this week. Said she had a nephew / neice babysitting emergency. Yet the twitter says hitting the bong. With another sugar daddy? Possibly. I don't really care, but at least keep your appts unless its a real emergency.

The only thing keeping me going is that these girls, or at least the ones I am going for, are absolute 18-20 yr old college stunners! 100 for a GFE hour and I am in heaven!

The bad part, however, is the increased drama / lying due to trying to avoid looking like a wh*re, the (sometimes) lack of in-call due to still living with mommy and daddy or at a dorm, and the lack of commitment / punctuality. This could also be partially my fault since I am currently going for the young stunners (see attachment).

Before anyone asks, yes, that is a real pic. I already met her for coffee. If he doesn't flake out on me this weekend, I plan on f*cking her into next week.

The worst part is pretending to listen and pretending to care.

I am still learning the skills of this game. But one thing is for sure; I aint doing no $$h or meet-and-greets. They can show themselves the door!

Nostra3
10-15-15, 14:55
As I have entered the Sugarbowl, it can definitely be a different dynamic than typical hobbying.

For example, I only have one SA account, but once I get her # thru PM, I will do recon via my 5 other numbers. "Hey, I was talking to you on SA before I cancelled my account, how are you?" These girls are talking to so many guys you can easily get away with it. And the funny part? These girls are even BIGGER liars than BP girls. I imagine its because they are trying to maintain their "good girl" image.

The one SB I reported on earlier lives 1 hour away from me. I told her that if she lived closer or acually in Indy, she could really bank some more. She told me "what do you mean? I am only seeing you! I am not a prostitute!" Little does she know that she has been discussing donations and menu options with my 5 other "friends".

Another potential SB rainchecked me this week. Said she had a nephew / neice babysitting emergency. Yet the twitter says hitting the bong. With another sugar daddy? Possibly. I don't really care, but at least keep your appts unless its a real emergency.

The only thing keeping me going is that these girls, or at least the ones I am going for, are absolute 18-20 yr old college stunners! 100 for a GFE hour and I am in heaven!

The bad part, however, is the increased drama / lying due to trying to avoid looking like a wh*re, the (sometimes) lack of in-call due to still living with mommy and daddy or at a dorm, and the lack of commitment / punctuality. This could also be partially my fault since I am currently going for the young stunners (see attachment).

Before anyone asks, yes, that is a real pic. I already met her for coffee. If he doesn't flake out on me this weekend, I plan on f*cking her into next week.

The worst part is pretending to listen and pretending to care.

I am still learning the skills of this game. But one thing is for sure; I aint doing no $$h or meet-and-greets. They can show themselves the door!Couple of things. First congrats on the wins lately. Great stories looking forward to hearing more.

Second, you sound like you are stalking these girls. Why are you texting with 5 different numbers, etc? You are fucking a bunch of chick's, so don't stalk them for doing the same thing. I'm worried when so many girls I talk to mention how many guys are creepy and stalk them, find out all their personal info, and won't stop texting them. This is the reason many have given me for getting off the site or being insanely careful. Just relax a little bit.

Third, I know the girl in the pic very well. No way you're getting her for $100 an hour. So if you are claiming that, I call into question the veracity of all your posts.

Not trying to be argumentative, just saying let's keep it cool, chill, and would rather not have their pics posted here for them to find!

Romeoinsd
10-15-15, 16:00
Couple of things. First congrats on the wins lately. Great stories looking forward to hearing more.

Second, you sound like you are stalking these girls. Why are you texting with 5 different numbers, etc?

Third, I know the girl in the pic very well. No way you're getting her for $100 an hour. So if you are claiming that, I call into question the veracity of all your posts.

Not trying to be argumentative, just saying let's keep it cool, chill, and would rather not have their pics posted here for them to find!I do the multiple personalites to gather the truth about what I am dealing with. I do the same with BP girls. Menus, what they are into, what they are NOT into, etc. Each "person" asks a little bit of info and pieces it together. If I were to ask ALL questions from one #, than it usually screams "Uncle" to them. Once I establish a connection, the other "interested parties" go away.

Is that stalking? F*ck no! That's just doing my homework. Intelligence gathering for my protection. This research also led to discovery of girls that are *loosely* connected to my social circles. I immediately seize all contact and they never hear from me again as I don't need the hobby crossing into my personal life.

As for the girl in the pic, $100/ hr is my deal with her. Will she try and up it later? Probably. But as you probably already know, she is the BIGGEST game player / liar of them all. If you don't already know this, you will find out soon. Her initial offering was $500/ hr.

If you don't believe my deal with her, we can take it to PM's. I can verify all her info with you, assuming she has hosted you.

I get that you are not trying to come off as a jerk. Neither am I. But we are all going to play this game a little different and get different bargains.

I agree with the pic though. I will ask ADMIN to remove it

JohnBuddy
10-21-15, 13:26
Anyone want to trade info on seeking? Been a member for a year with GREAT success!

IndyGuy123
10-21-15, 16:50
I do not see what the big deal is with SA. Joined the site and think it is a waste of time and effort. No one on there worth even contacting!

Indy Guy.

*Thinking: I wonder how many will see through the bs in my posting*.

Indy Tech
10-21-15, 20:21
I do not see what the big deal is with SA. Joined the site and think it is a waste of time and effort. No one on there worth even contacting!

Indy Guy.

*Thinking: I wonder how many will see through the bs in my posting*.Absolutely!

Banging twenty something hotties is a real drag! I miss time limits, and spending hundreds every month. It's also a HUGE PAIN juggling four girls at once. I barely have any time to myself anymore.

I also miss the stress of the whole uncle possibly lurking in the back of my mind.

Worst of all, there isn't a freckled whoe in the entire central Indiana area.

I'm letting my membership expire, and going to go back to banging clock watching drug addled skanks, and paying high prices.

Nostra3
10-21-15, 21:12
I do not see what the big deal is with SA. Joined the site and think it is a waste of time and effort. No one on there worth even contacting!

Indy Guy.

*Thinking: I wonder how many will see through the bs in my posting*.Yep, it sucks. Stay off there.

IndyGuy123
10-22-15, 01:06
Yep, it sucks. Stay off there.I think I am going to ask for a refund.


Banging twenty something hotties is a real drag! I miss time limits, and spending hundreds every month. It's also a HUGE PAIN juggling four girls at once. I barely have any time to myself anymore.Exactly! Who has time for that. The stress alone of all them will send me to an early grave.


Worst of all, there isn't a freckled whoe in the entire central Indiana area.Not sure about the freckled field. However, the three reds in three days is completely unsatisfactory!!

Unpleased Indy Guy.

Bfeguy
10-22-15, 12:52
Anyone want to trade info on seeking? Been a member for a year with GREAT success!Yes I can. It has been hit and miss but a few experiences none the less.

Nostra3
10-26-15, 18:18
Yes I can. It has been hit and miss but a few experiences none the less.Sure, would love to compare notes.

IndyGuy123
10-26-15, 18:24
Sure, would love to compare notes.Maybe we need a closed door, invite only SA JAD session!

The one caveat is this greedy bastard has lost all recollection of any and all redheads! What even was her name today? I think I forgot while those wonderful strawberry locks were waving all over the place.
Indy Guy.

Inndy1
10-27-15, 06:50
Yes I can. It has been hit and miss but a few experiences none the less.I would love to get in on sharing I've been on for 3 months had some luck but like anything homework involved.

JaxSon07
10-27-15, 20:40
Yes I can. It has been hit and miss but a few experiences none the less.I've been in the SA game for well over a year, and kind of gave this thread a kickstart a few months ago. But I'm noticing a trend of GPS (golden pussy syndrome) the past couple months. I try to stay in the 150-200 per encounter range. But I've had a lot of meet and greets in the past month where the girl stands firm at 300 or above. If they are bluffing, they'll usually come around pretty quick. But I'm seeing a trend of standing firm. So someone must be gving it to them. Lets help each other out and keep the market low guys However there are still plenty of gems on there in that range. I still have to turn some down cause of too many on my plate.

The hardest thing is that they come and go so fast. There are a few regulars, but most are short lived on there.

Golfer72
10-27-15, 23:08
Been on there around 6-8 weeks. Not a day goes by where I don't add a new project to my list. Have met up with at least 6 ladies so far. It is simply spectacular. And easy.

Indplsgent4fu
10-28-15, 01:49
I've been in the SA game for well over a year, and kind of gave this thread a kickstart a few months ago. But I'm noticing a trend of GPS (golden pussy syndrome) the past couple months. I try to stay in the 150-200 per encounter range. But I've had a lot of meet and greets in the past month where the girl stands firm at 300 or above. If they are bluffing, they'll usually come around pretty quick. But I'm seeing a trend of standing firm. So someone must be gving it to them. Lets help each other out and keep the market low guys However there are still plenty of gems on there in that range. I still have to turn some down cause of too many on my plate.

The hardest thing is that they come and go so fast. There are a few regulars, but most are short lived on there.I've been on sd sites for years, but since "kick starting" in the past 2 months, the GPS syndrome has taken over. I've lost 6 friends in the past month because they are no longer happy with the donations we've had in place for months, and they are wanting $300 to $400+, and they are getting it.

Inndy1
10-28-15, 14:31
Hopeful Angel off of SA is definitely in for play. Her friend contacted me after I met her on there. I had a M&g with her and off to the room for a few hrs of FS BBBJ everything but Geece. Damage was $$. 5. A little high but for time spent and quality of fun we'll worth it. Plus she was an easy 8 very pretty. A few days later a repeat of the same. Then lost contact due to her phone getting disconnected. A few weeks go by and she contacts me about Hopeful Angel and I might want to see her. I said no I want to see you but she says she found someone she is going to stay with and try and make it work. Hopeful Angel is a Red head with Freckles but just not my type you can go to SA for pics. Just added this to show there is action and some good action on SA.

Lion7170
10-28-15, 15:52
I have not been contributing here for a long time now. The SB relationship is completely different from any talked about in the other threads. The cost of maintaining a baby is not based on an hourly rate. One problem with attempting to set a market price is that there is no market. There are also many blogs of SB's advising them on what to expect. The blogs in New York set expectations high. This world of SB's is extremely varied. If you are hoping to have a hookup with a hot college girl, it won't be simple or cheap most of the time. My friend here has found some gems who have lower expectations. My experience has found that if you look for the stunning college girl who wants a SD they are going to be high maintenance. There is a woman for every taste and budget though. As long as you keep perspective on the scale of cost vs benefit it will work. Those seeking a quick hookup with set pricing will be better served by seeing a trusted escort.

Indplsgent4fu
10-28-15, 19:20
I have not been contributing here for a long time now. The SB relationship is completely different from any talked about in the other threads. The cost of maintaining a baby is not based on an hourly rate. One problem with attempting to set a market price is that there is no market. There are also many blogs of SB's advising them on what to expect. The blogs in New York set expectations high. This world of SB's is extremely varied. If you are hoping to have a hookup with a hot college girl, it won't be simple or cheap most of the time. My friend here has found some gems who have lower expectations. My experience has found that if you look for the stunning college girl who wants a SD they are going to be high maintenance. There is a woman for every taste and budget though. As long as you keep perspective on the scale of cost vs benefit it will work. Those seeking a quick hookup with set pricing will be better served by seeing a trusted escort.There is no one absolute way to go about this for the man or the lady. Every person has their unique style, perception, preferences and budget. Although it is not supposed to based on hourly rate, in my 20 years of SD / SB experience, most ladies want an allowance, but EVERY one of the ladies I encountered, compromised and accepted a reasonable donation at each time we visited with each other. I have encountered stunning college girls, asians, hispanic, dancers, hooters girls, etc. In fact, I have seen many of the ladies that advertise on here, BP and other escort sites that ALSO have a profile on sd / sb sites (hoping to get a bigger better deal). Choice is yours, but you, I and everyone on here DO set the market and the market price. Once you decide you can live without the popular flavor of the month, and are willing to step away, then you will be pleasantly surprised and rewarded.

Indplsgent4fu
10-28-15, 20:31
There is no one absolute way to go about this for the man or the lady. Every person has their unique style, perception, preferences and budget. Although it is not supposed to based on hourly rate, in my 20 years of SD / SB experience, most ladies want an allowance, but EVERY one of the ladies I encountered, compromised and accepted a reasonable donation at each time we visited with each other. I have encountered stunning college girls, asians, hispanic, dancers, hooters girls, etc. In fact, I have seen many of the ladies that advertise on here, BP and other escort sites that ALSO have a profile on sd / sb sites (hoping to get a bigger better deal). Choice is yours, but you, I and everyone on here DO set the market and the market price. Once you decide you can live without the popular flavor of the month, and are willing to step away, then you will be pleasantly surprised and rewarded.https://www.facebook.com/Hangoverpakistan/videos/897787563634766/?pnref=story

IndyGuy123
10-29-15, 01:40
This is too good not to share. I just found a former Fredericks of Hollywood model on SA. She sent me the pictures and all to prove it. Has the catalog she was in to show me when I see her this week.

Don't ask for a name. If she is good, I am hiding this one as long as possible. Happy hunting!

Indy Guy.

Golfer72
10-29-15, 18:14
This is too good not to share. I just found a former Fredericks of Hollywood model on SA. She sent me the pictures and all to prove it. Has the catalog she was in to show me when I see her this week.

Don't ask for a name. If she is good, I am hiding this one as long as possible. Happy hunting!

Indy Guy.This is too good not to share and don't ask for a name?

VoxDei
11-01-15, 21:50
I have had some fair bit of luck in the bay area just messaging people saying I am in town for business often and would like to meet casually. I am trying to do the same for Indy. My experience seems to be that girls seem to respond at a much higher rate when you are clearly not from town and just looking for NSA and down for FC. I have 3 scheduled on a 2 day trip out there. With flaking ratio, I think I may close the deal with at least 1.

My question is around donation. All these are non-pros (I have seen their FB pages. Mostly single moms even when they are pretty young, early 20's) - usually they never discuss donation but I find that I need to meet local standards. I was thinking $150-$200. Just wanted to get you local bros opinions.

Thanks.

VD.

P.S. Please check out the Richmond thread if you haven; t arelady.

Tonylove465
11-02-15, 02:01
I just wanted to tell everyone that I so happy that this thing has taken off. I started this thread a year ago. It got off to a slow start. But finally it had picked up steam and taken off.

Like many of you have said, this is very rewarding.

I mentioned before that it is a little more work. Bit I have met MANY beautiful ladies through this process.

In most cases, I'm helping these girls. And unlike a lot of the professional providers I've seen, it seems as though these SB are using the help to benefit there position in life. And not spending it on drugs but paying for school or other bills.

Just want to thank you all for your input.

VoxDei
11-02-15, 23:35
Your inbox is full. Thanks for offer of help.

IndyGuy123
11-03-15, 02:52
Your inbox is full. Thanks for offer of help.Try again! Same to others who tried tonight.

Tonight's SB lesson to myself. Make sure to have a hotel pre-booked when she has a roommate with kids. When she told me she had no bra or panties on, my first thought should have been hotels.com.

Indy Guy.

Golfer72
11-03-15, 10:46
Definitely a little more work on the front end, but a veritable ever-changing smorgasboard of hot women of you are willing to put in the time and effort.

IndyGuy123
11-03-15, 11:43
Definitely a little more work on the front end, but a veritable ever-changing smorgasboard of hot women of you are willing to put in the time and effort.And with the way you been hitting that smorgasboard, you are going to be fatter than me in no time.

Indy Guy.

JaxSon07
11-03-15, 20:16
I have had some fair bit of luck in the bay area just messaging people saying I am in town for business often and would like to meet casually. I am trying to do the same for Indy. My experience seems to be that girls seem to respond at a much higher rate when you are clearly not from town and just looking for NSA and down for FC. I have 3 scheduled on a 2 day trip out there. With flaking ratio, I think I may close the deal with at least 1.

My question is around donation. All these are non-pros (I have seen their FB pages. Mostly single moms even when they are pretty young, early 20's) - usually they never discuss donation but I find that I need to meet local standards. I was thinking $150-$200. Just wanted to get you local bros opinions.

Thanks.

VD.

P.S. Please check out the Richmond thread if you haven; t arelady.You do have a good point. I'm visiting another state this coming weekend so I messaged about 10 in that city that looked like they might be game for getting down to business, 6 replied that they were up for a drink and then accompanying me back to the room. So now it's just a matter of choosing Of course I did say that I visit frequently and am looking for someone to meet up with everytime I'm in town. That makes them feel that it will be more than one time and keeps the allowance conversation at bay. I've found that if I can do that, and I work them a little over a drink, very few will say no to $150-200 cash if I want to move to FC right then.

I may change my city on my profile and start working that angle on those that don't know me on SA.

P.S. Just a warning, keep an eye out for the underage girls on there. I just came across my second one the other day.

Inndy1
11-05-15, 08:39
So I get a message from Brittany Ann from SA. I return it she is 23 part time school / work. I as k for her number so we can talk or text rather than use the site. She contacts me this morning and we talk and set up a m&g. She's in school til one no problem. I figure things are going great she is hot. Has no problem meeting up and talking. Now before I get really going I google number. It is linked to BP ads from Sept and Oct so I'm like yes. Young beautiful and ready to play. As we are getting to work out plans the next text is just so you know I'm not looking for play for pay and my time is valuable so I would expect some money for my time. WTF I got plenty if people to hang out with for free. Not sure what she is thinking from BP to just hanging out.

Freckle Freak
11-05-15, 09:51
So I get a message from Brittany Ann from SA. I return it she is 23 part time school / work. I as k for her number so we can talk or text rather than use the site. She contacts me this morning and we talk and set up a m&g. She's in school til one no problem. I figure things are going great she is hot. Has no problem meeting up and talking. Now before I get really going I google number. It is linked to BP ads from Sept and Oct so I'm like yes. Young beautiful and ready to play. As we are getting to work out plans the next text is just so you know I'm not looking for play for pay and my time is valuable so I would expect some money for my time. WTF I got plenty if people to hang out with for free. Not sure what she is thinking from BP to just hanging out.This is an easy one. She is a part time student and has a job, so what type of job does she have? Minimum wage is $7. 25 / hr. Meet with her for a couple of hours over lunch or dinner. Pay the bill and let her know that you will apply the balance of what she owes YOU the next time you two meet! Let's see dining out at a mid range restaurant will run at least $50 with food, drinks and tip. 2 hours at $7. 25 = $14.50 so you will get a little over $10 off your first pay with play meeting. So if it takes 10 meetings with her to determine sexual compatibility then you're already $100 ahead!

Another option is to let her know you will be happy to pay her $100 to meet, however since time is money and you are a business professional your professional hourly billing rate is $150 hr. You wouldn't want to meet any longer than 40 minutes so you wouldn't have to charge her extra!

If the first two don't sound good then just say "Thanks for the offer to meet, but my time is more valuable than yours so I really don't think it would be gentlemanly of me to charge you to meet, so I will pass!

FF.

P.S. Unless she is covered in freckles then you can give her my number!

Romeoinsd
11-05-15, 10:06
So I get a message from Brittany Ann from SA. Now before I get really going I google number. It is linked to BP ads from Sept and Oct. As we are getting to work out plans the next text is just so you know I'm not looking for play for pay and my time is valuable so I would expect some money for my time. WTF I got plenty if people to hang out with for free. Not sure what she is thinking from BP to just hanging out.If I can verify that the profile is a BP girl or UTR, I won't even bother. As you have discovered, they feel they can milk the same amount of donation for just hanging out. Let some other chump "take care" of her.

BTW, I received the same "hello" from her. She must be hurting for donations.

On a related note, good job on doing your homework and research with her. It will save you (most of the time) on funds / time / energy. Don't let anyone tell you its "stalking" or invasive. You are only protecting your own interests.

I recently was in talks with a potential SB, super cute and super young. Figured out her FB page and we had 2 or 3 "friends of friends" in common. I backed off and ceased communications. I don't need the drama. Several days later, I end up at a Halloween party at friend's condo in downtown Carmel. The SB shows up with her SO and I am there with my date. Talk about close call! I never sent her my pic so she didn't know who I was when I shook her hand. But the entire night I looked at her in a different way.

I still wanted to bang her. But now I am definitely not going to.

Do your homework and stay safe!

FqIdiot
11-05-15, 10:10
This is an easy one. She is a part time student and has a job, so what type of job does she have?A Facebook search on her number shows that she works at Kroger. Your estimate on her hourly rate is likely spot on.

I've been texting with her as well, and also was aware of her previous BP posts. One of the primary reasons I have been speaking with her. She hasn't hit me up for any cost to 'meet' her yet, but if that happens I'll pass.

I joined SA based upon the feedback I saw in this thread, and have had a lot of interesting conversations and one solid hookup. Agree with the GPS issue I've read recently. Many of these girls act like they're on BP, but ask for much more than they're worth. Many of the girls I have communicated with should just stick to BP as only a fool with pony up $$$ or more to 'enjoy their company'.

While I first thought this was a prime hunting ground to find girls that provided BP type of relationships with a little less risk and much prettier faces, the absurd requests I'm getting have led me to the point of thinking this site is more work than it's worth.

Part of the fun of this hobby is having a plethora of different faces to choose from, and not getting bogged down with one person. Allowance? Pass. I need to get to know you better before giving you the good stuff. Pass. I don't want a wife. I want different faces every week, different experiences, different pussy.

Now, having seen pictures of Brittany Ann's amazing tits (small, which I like), I'm going to play this one out! If she asks for money up front, I'll happily refer her back to her last BP ad where she informed those readers not to contact her if the donation was less than. 6.

FQ.

Romeoinsd
11-05-15, 10:20
While I first thought this was a prime hunting ground to find girls that provided BP type of relationships with a little less risk and much prettier faces, the absurd requests I'm getting have led me to the point of thinking this site is more work than it's worth.This is EXTREMELY true. There is definitely more work involved and more GPS to sift thru.

I even laugh when the profile says "I am NOT a prostitute!" Yeah, ok honey.

But some of these fresh young college hotties are hot, hot, hot and broke, broke, broke.

I am meeting a 19yr old 5'9" blonde today for a cheap lunch. She is a 9 in my book. I would salivate for her if I just saw her walking by in public. And she keeps telling me how broke she is.

But therein lies the second problem here...the quid pro quo of not sharing here and keeping the GPS and cost down for each of us with our individual SB's. Assuming you go back for seconds.

It's a whole new game! I love it!

FqIdiot
11-05-15, 10:45
This is EXTREMELY true. There is definitely more work involved and more GPS to sift thru.So update on my previous post. Just spoke with her, and the discussion was laughable.

I inquired about our first meeting, and what she was looking for. She informed me that she would first need to meet with me and we would mutually decide if we wanted to enter into a SB / SD relationship. Seemed reasonable. So I asked her expectations if we were to decide to move forward.

Her - "Well, to meet with me I'd want you to pay for that time. ".

Me - "Hmm, that seems odd. I mean, if I'm taking you to lunch to discuss whether we want to move forward, why would I pay you for that?

At this point, she's having a discussion with some other person that obviously was listening to our conversation. I could here this person attempt to explain the logic to her so she could explain it to me.

Her - "Umm, because you're the sugar dad. That's just how it works I guess. ".

Me - "So will you be paying me for my time as well?" (thanks FF for that one).

Her - "Umm, no because you're the sugar dad. ".

At this point I decided to not continue with the fun of the conversation. Remember, this chick was on BP a month ago offering services, and now she's expecting me to allow her to interview me and I have to pay her for that privilege? PASS.

I'm still chuckling over the absurd expectations some of these women have.

FQ.

IndyGuy123
11-05-15, 11:47
So I get a message from Brittany Ann from SA.


Now, having seen pictures of Brittany Ann's amazing tits (small, which I like), I'm going to play this one out!Inndy and FQ.

Do as you like but coming from someone that has been there and done that with her, don't BOTHER! First, she has a NASTY case of some psoriasis type skin condition. It is all over her body. Second, she sucks in bed. Third, she has an obvious pharmaceutical issue. Her pimp or dealer is never far away.


This is EXTREMELY true. There is definitely more work involved and more GPS to sift thru.
It's a whole new game! I love it!This is true. Keep in mind that if you got skill and can play the game right, the proverbial door (their legs) are wide open on a select group of them. I already have 2 girls on the hook that I am meeting and screwing and have yet to give them a dime other than dinner. Now, these are not the pick of the litter but not bad either. They are the supplement between meeting and working on the real hotties. The SA game is also a choice or preference over other ways and means. In many cases, meeting an SA lady may cost more but it is also not a HHR or HR and see the door. Most of these ladies are willing to spend multiple hours with you if you like. My personal pick of the litter is a little more than an HR with an escort but we spend half a day together and will play as long as my heart can take it.

Some mongers may not be willing to put in a little work or do not want the extended visits. For those types of hobbyists, SA may not be the way to go. Another advantage of the meet and greets is that you get to the real thing and generally costs no more than lunch or coffee.

At this point, she's having a discussion with some other person that obviously was listening to our conversation. I could here this person attempt to explain the logic to her so she could explain it to me.Sounds to me like you just got validation of the pimp/SO.
Indy Guy

FqIdiot
11-05-15, 15:00
The SA game is also a choice or preference over other ways and means. In many cases, meeting an SA lady may cost more but it is also not a HHR or HR and see the door. Most of these ladies are willing to spend multiple hours with you if you like. My personal pick of the litter is a little more than an HR with an escort but we spend half a day together and will play as long as my heart can take it.That's exactly why I joined that site. I'm tired of transactions, and that all there usually was on BP or other sites. I've enjoyed the company of a lovely young lady currently attending Ball State, and to your point her expectations are typical but you get much more out of the time. I enjoy that, but the games you have to play with some of these girls to get to that point can be exhausting.

I'll continue to spend time with this lovely lady as her expectations are reasonable, and try to find some others to add to the mix. Part of the fun is the hunt, and there are definitely a lot of very attractive women in college to go after here. I'll stick to the recommendation to avoid any that have had previous BP ads. Additional searches on FB have kept me from even continuing conversations with most.

FQ.

IndyGuy123
11-05-15, 16:52
I've enjoyed the company of a lovely young lady currently attending Ball State, and to your point her expectations are typical but you get much more out of the time. I enjoy that, but the games you have to play with some of these girls to get to that point can be exhausting.The BSU reference offers up another thing I have quickly learned. There are plenty of young coeds in the Indy area, but there is also many more SD. If you are ready, willing, and able to venture out of town to one of the local large schools, there are many more of them and less potential suitors. This applies to the coeds and regular ladies as well. I currently have a Boilermaker seemingly courting me instead of the other way around. 10/10 may be too low for her. When venturing into other towns, it is also nice to have friends in low places.

Golfer,

Wouldn't you concur? .

Indy Guy.

Golfer72
11-05-15, 17:02
The BSU reference offers up another thing I have quickly learned. There are plenty of young coeds in the Indy area, but there is also many more SD. If you are ready, willing, and able to venture out of town to one of the local large schools, there are many more of them and less potential suitors. This applies to the coeds and regular ladies as well. I currently have a Boilermaker seemingly courting me instead of the other way around. 10/10 may be too low for her. When venturing into other towns, it is also nice to have friends in low places.

Golfer,

Wouldn't you concur? .

Indy Guy.Tell her to quit blowing up my phone. LOL.

Inndy1
11-05-15, 17:09
Inndy and FQ.

Do as you like but coming from someone that has been there and done that with her, don't BOTHER! First, she has a NASTY case of some psoriasis type skin condition. It is all over her body. Second, she sucks in bed. Third, she has an obvious pharmaceutical issue. Her pimp or dealer is never far away.

This is true. Keep in mind that if you got skill and can play the game right, the proverbial door (their legs) are wide open on a select group of them. I already have 2 girls on the hook that I am meeting and screwing and have yet to give them a dime other than dinner. Now, these are not the pick of the litter but not bad either. They are the supplement between meeting and working on the real hotties. The SA game is also a choice or preference over other ways and means. In many cases, meeting an SA lady may cost more but it is also not a HHR or HR and see the door. Most of these ladies are willing to spend multiple hours with you if you like. My personal pick of the litter is a little more than an HR with an escort but we spend half a day together and will play as long as my heart can take it.

Some mongers may not be willing to put in a little work or do not want the extended visits. For those types of hobbyists, SA may not be the way to go. Another advantage of the meet and greets is that you get to the real thing and generally costs no more than lunch or coffee.
Sounds to me like you just got validation of the pimp/SO.
Indy GuyThanks for the advice. I wasn't going to mess with her but damn her pics are hot. I'll play with her online for a while but not my going to waste time or money that's for sure.

IndyGuy123
11-05-15, 17:33
Thanks for the advice. I wasn't going to mess with her but damn her pics are hot. I'll play with her online for a while but not my going to waste time or money that's for sure.It is too bad to. She has one of the best little spinner bodies I have ever seen. Maybe you could wear some rose colored glasses and it would hide the skin condition. Now to just get past her other issues. You can borrow my glasses. I frequently use them for the ladies that aren't red on top.


Tell her to quit blowing up my phone. LOL.That is fine. She can blow up your phone. That is not necessarily the opportune location for the blowing that is planned.
BTW.....the reference to you was for the other ones. The gentleman's agreement (ain't that a crook) is still in place.

Indy Guy.

Tony Colt
11-06-15, 11:44
If you have any Intel please PM Thanks.

IndyGuy123
11-06-15, 15:35
If you have any Intel please PM Thanks.Link?

This Brittany? http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-looking-for-a-sophisticated-accomplished-and-generous-sugar-daddy/13009397.

Indy Guy.

Tony Colt
11-06-15, 15:44
Yes that is the one.


Link?

This Brittany? http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/im-looking-for-a-sophisticated-accomplished-and-generous-sugar-daddy/13009397.

Indy Guy.

Romeoinsd
11-06-15, 16:07
If you have any Intel please PM Thanks.I was texting her about 1 month ago. Light SB texting. You know, "Hi, how are you? Tell me about you, blah, blah, blah. ".

I set the phone down at my desk for several hours (I was at work) and when I return to it she is calling me a time waster, and a f*cking loser. Said that my questions were atypical of someone that didn't read her ad.

I read it. It emphatically stated that she was NOT a prostitute. It was like she got pissed that I didn't get straight to the point and ask "Hey, how much for how much?

I get that she probably wastes a lot of time with tire-kickers, but I think she is delusional and that she thinks her sh*t don't stink. She threw a couple of more expletives when I tried to talk to her like an adult, but in the end, I ended up just blocking her.

She is a snob with attitude. And what's worse is that most of us would have to drive OVER an hour ON PURPOSE just to experience that in person. I know some mongers here have reported on her in the past and maybe she is excellent in bed. Plenty of other fish in the sea.

Yeah, no thanks.

IndyGuy123
11-06-15, 16:18
She is a snob with attitude. And what's worse is that most of us would have to drive OVER an hour ON PURPOSE just to experience that in person. I know some mongers here have reported on her in the past and maybe she is excellent in bed. Plenty of other fish in the sea.Giving Tony the full lowdown thru direct contact. Basically, she plays the SB role well in her communication but will also get straight to business. She is just as hot as the pictures. Maybe even better. She is good in bed but not incredible. I honestly think she may have bipolar.

Cost makes her worth it. Cost plus the game makes her worth it. Cost plus game plus distance equals not worth it.

Indy Guy.

Inndy1
11-07-15, 08:55
She is definitely a go and on P411 as Chanel. I have not took the plunge so can't review. Wants $$$ on P411 but maybe through SA you can work on better deal. I'll get back with Intel if I work something out.

IndyGuy123
11-08-15, 00:04
She is definitely a go and on P411 as Chanel. I have not took the plunge so can't review. Wants $$$ on P411 but maybe through SA you can work on better deal. I'll get back with Intel if I work something out.And if you like to be completely ravaged, she has friends! Her friends includes some of the greats we rave about on this board. For those that are willing to drop a little more coin to not have to play the games or are not on SA, the lovely Chanel also advertises on our sister site.

Indy Guy.

Tonylove465
11-08-15, 04:10
Yes, I told Indy that I drove to Terre Haute to meet her. She sent me some extremely hot pics. She also talked as if we'd be able to get along.

We met at Applebee's for dinner. Spoke openly and honestly. She asks if I'd like to go to her place. I said sure. But I need to run by ATM. I asked her to text me he address as we part at the door.

As soon as I start my car I get a text from her saying that I'm too promiscuous and not for her. Gone.


Giving Tony the full lowdown thru direct contact. Basically, she plays the SB role well in her communication but will also get straight to business. She is just as hot as the pictures. Maybe even better. She is good in bed but not incredible. I honestly think she may have bipolar.

Cost makes her worth it. Cost plus the game makes her worth it. Cost plus game plus distance equals not worth it.

Indy Guy.

Tonylove465
11-08-15, 04:12
I was just watch the world's leader in sports channel. And surprise! I see a commercial for ArrangementFinders.

First time I'd seen it. Anyone else seen it?

IndyGuy123
11-09-15, 10:36
I was just watch the world's leader in sports channel. And surprise! I see a commercial for ArrangementFinders.

First time I'd seen it. Anyone else seen it?TL,

Didn't see the commercial that you are talking about but I had to take a look to see if I could find it. Damn sure this is not the commercial they were playing but it is too good not to share. This is f'and hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS76Uu2rP-Q

Indy Guy.

Romeoinsd
11-10-15, 10:00
Yes, I told Indy that I drove to Terre Haute to meet her. She sent me some extremely hot pics. She also talked as if we'd be able to get along.

We met at Applebee's for dinner. Spoke openly and honestly. She asks if I'd like to go to her place. I said sure. But I need to run by ATM. I asked her to text me he address as we part at the door.

As soon as I start my car I get a text from her saying that I'm too promiscuous and not for her. Gone.So she is the one with a BP ad AND a SA ad.

And YOU are too promiscuous?

Wow.

Delusional.

IndyGuy123
11-10-15, 10:51
So she is the one with a BP ad AND a SA ad.

And YOU are too promiscuous?

Wow.

Delusional.You better keep counting. She is on BP, SA, Arrangement Finders, What's your price, and even CL on occasion. The thing is if she moved closer to Indy and got her head on straight, I think she could actually be someones high end SB. I will settle for having hit it once and moving back on to being promiscuous.

Indy Guy.

John HandCock
11-10-15, 12:29
You better keep counting. She is on BP, SA, Arrangement Finders, What's your price, and even CL on occasion. The thing is if she moved closer to Indy and got her head on straight, I think she could actually be someones high end SB. I will settle for having hit it once and moving back on to being promiscuous.

Indy Guy.Add SD4 ME also. Was on that site pretty close to 2 years ago.

JohnBuddy
11-13-15, 14:04
I love SA. Try katie. With a one two three. Hottie.

Dente
11-13-15, 15:03
I love SA. Try katie. With a one two three. Hottie.I must say that I love it too. You might also try CiCi with a two and three.

Romeoinsd
11-14-15, 19:06
I've been in the SA game for well over a year, and kind of gave this thread a kickstart a few months ago. But I'm noticing a trend of GPS (golden pussy syndrome) the past couple months. I try to stay in the 150-200 per encounter range. But I've had a lot of meet and greets in the past month where the girl stands firm at 300 or above. If they are bluffing, they'll usually come around pretty quick. But I'm seeing a trend of standing firm. So someone must be gving it to them. Lets help each other out and keep the market low guys However there are still plenty of gems on there in that range. I still have to turn some down cause of too many on my plate.

The hardest thing is that they come and go so fast. There are a few regulars, but most are short lived on there.I hear the sermon you are preaching brother and I am staying strong!

I think my problem is that I aim for the 18-23 yr old hotties that EVERY guy wants to f*ck.

I had one 19 yr old recently tell me the she is a virgin and only does hand jobs. When I asked what kind of sugar she wanted, she told me she had been offered 1,000 weekly allowance and some dude even offered to buy her a car.

I told her that I would *maybe* give her $ per meet if she was also any good at massaging. I also told her that she sounds like a smart girl and that she is probably spending that 1 K / week wisely. I also asked her what kind of car she picked out.

She's been silent so far.

Airmantroy
11-14-15, 22:56
I was in town on business and noticed her profile stated NO BS. Blah blah blah. Having been in this hobby for a number of years I knew she was willing to do a per visit deal as well as see an out of towner that may never see her again. We set up for her to come to my place but it was late and her "cousin" had to be up for work early and the hotel security guard kept hounding the "cousin" while she waited in the parking lot. She was nervous and I had made the mistake of forgetting condoms so I settled with a bbbjcimnqns for 200. She's.

31 caucasian, slim build with a little droop to her boobs. Not a firm hardbody but would be great as a regular. SA profile name to seniors if your interested. She did say she gets plenty of messages mostly asking for nudes. She thinks that's just stupid. Sooo.

Tonylove465
11-15-15, 05:45
Gentlemen-.

Just curious if anyone has met her?

I started communicating with her when I first got on SA.

We had great conversation and set up a meeting.

A couple days before, MIA.

Couple months later she contacted me again. Apologized and have me a story about the ex was back around, but hoping I was still interested. Again we set up a meeting. Again went missing just before our agreed upon date.

Then a couple months later, contacted again. Said ex is moving out and on. We set up yet another meeting.

And again she disappeared.

I'm just curious if she's ever met anyone or just teasing all of us, or just me?

Thanks.

-TL.

Romeoinsd
11-15-15, 11:36
Gentlemen-.

Bri5678. Just curious if anyone has met her?

We had great conversation and set up a meeting.

A couple days before, MIA.I have never chatted with her, but I hope you figure it out!

I am posting my list of time wasters. These are simply their public screen names that anyone can see and I hope it's ok with A2.

X. Victoria. Always *out of town* when you want to meet.

Wildmustang. Wants 1 K for just coffee. (Not really a timewaster if all you want is coffee.).

Parkergirl4 - wants 2 K for just coffee.

Mayohmy. Moneygram scam.

Greeneyedbb & Brooklynn. Same person, setups multiple accounts. Gives home address right away for a meet. This person is either a fake, sting, or rob. Went silent when I asked for a unique pic.

If it is coming down to an actual meet, I will request a pic with something unique, like holding up 3 fingers sideways or upside down. This avoids fakes sending you stock / old photos. If their face is already in their public profile, I don't see what the big deal is. If it isn't, I still ask for the unique photo but they can take it from the neck down and avoid the face.

I tell them straight up that I am asking to avoid fakes or meeting a dude. The fakes will either go silent or come up with some excuse as to how the last time they went swimming a great white shark ate the camera portion of their phone but kept the rest of it intact. I also give them my monger email as an alternative. I am pretty sure the shark didn't eat their email.

John1901
11-15-15, 14:40
Just getting back into the game after a few years off. Great thread but didn't know that that stood for?

IndyGuy123
11-16-15, 02:03
Just getting back into the game after a few years off. Great thread but didn't know that that stood for?Seeking Arrangement. If interested. Google it.

Indy Guy.

IndyGuy123
11-16-15, 05:33
Parkergirl4 - wants 2 K for just coffee.Either you said something wrong to her or I am just lucky. I am meeting with her this week. Based on your post, I did a double check and she doesn't expect anything for our meeting.

Many of the SA ladies are effected heavily by how a guy treats them. This is more so than an escort since many SA girls want a regular thing and to act as if you are a couple. I have 2 girls I see regularly that don't charge me a dime and say they just want me there. Just got home from a stunning blonde who wanted me to spend the night simply for picking her up from the airport.

Indy Guy.

Romeoinsd
11-16-15, 09:55
Either you said something wrong to her or I am just lucky. I am meeting with her this week. Based on your post, I did a double check and she doesn't expect anything for our meeting.You could be right. I work for a publicly traded Fortune 500 company located in downtown Indy. Maybe I need to stop telling them that info.

Please let us know how it goes!

TheDistance
11-16-15, 23:24
I've been back on the prowl the past few months after a 8 month romance with a young woman that bordered on goddess. I've noticed a lot of "split" in the expectations of the young ladies I've spoken to recently. There are some who simply want to "date" a man with resources, who picks her up in a nice car (without the windows duct taped shut, as one said) and who doesn't whine about the tab at dinner. Then there are some with that "golden pussy" syndrome. $1000/ wk? Where did you get that idea? Yes, $50 K a year tax free would be nice, but a few 28 hour weeks at $8 an hour will have them coming around on how ridiculous that idea is.

I'm a pretty decent looking guy, fit, charming, and generally considered a good catch, even by women well below my age range. I like to spoil a lady a little, bring some joy to her life. The idea of $1000/ wk is so ludicrous it's hard to even respond to it without becoming a snide asshole.

JohnBuddy
11-17-15, 10:12
"Greeneyedbb & Brooklynn. Same person, setups multiple accounts. Gives home address right away for a meet. This person is either a fake, sting, or rob. Went silent when I asked for a unique pic. " She is real. Iffy place but ok during the day. Price is right $ , pics are her.

Romeoinsd
11-17-15, 12:12
"Greeneyedbb & Brooklynn. She is real. Iffy place but ok during the day. Price is right $ , pics are her.Yeah, another monger PM'ed me with the same info. I wasn't going to post a retraction until I went for myself.

But with 2 verifies now, I am going to have to definitely check her out.

Tonylove465
11-18-15, 06:06
ParkerGirl told me she was a virgin. So no intercourse or BJ. But would do everything else.

Didn't make any demands. Actually asked me what I would offer for that. She didn't want to be greedy.


Either you said something wrong to her or I am just lucky. I am meeting with her this week. Based on your post, I did a double check and she doesn't expect anything for our meeting.

Many of the SA ladies are effected heavily by how a guy treats them. This is more so than an escort since many SA girls want a regular thing and to act as if you are a couple. I have 2 girls I see regularly that don't charge me a dime and say they just want me there. Just got home from a stunning blonde who wanted me to spend the night simply for picking her up from the airport.

Indy Guy.

JohnBuddy
11-18-15, 10:17
BeautyGrace. Smoke stained teeth and dental problem. Just saying. JB.

JohnBuddy
11-18-15, 11:31
She is 5-9 thin, lots of tats and piercing. Likes young girls, looks and dress like a boy (She a girl). Once her clothes are off she has one hot body and is all girl. ANYTHING goes. Toys, greek, stays till your done. No clock at all. Getitgotitgood23. Take you heart meds before you ride this one! JB.

Evalder
11-19-15, 16:55
First, I wanted to say thank you for starting this thread. Very useful info as I am just dipping my toes into the SD world.

I was curious if the more experienced and successful SDs could share any tips, or even an outline, on what to say when first contacting a SB. I'm not always good at the initial interaction with people and any advice would be great. Is it best to ask for a meet-up or wait for the girl to do so, and about how far along in the conversation, assuming she is interested, would you advise doing so? If all of this has been asked before, I apologize for missing it while reading over the thread and would appreciate being pointed then to the relevant entries.

Again, thank you.

Bfeguy
11-19-15, 23:58
This one scared me off in the first couple texts. Very forward with what activities and donation.


"Greeneyedbb & Brooklynn. Same person, setups multiple accounts. Gives home address right away for a meet. This person is either a fake, sting, or rob. Went silent when I asked for a unique pic. " She is real. Iffy place but ok during the day. Price is right $ , pics are her.

Tonylove465
11-20-15, 08:49
Just wanted to let you know about this one.

I met her a few months back.

Talked a real good game. Was open to all different types of arrangements.

We met at BobEvans. And the conversation went great. We came to an agreement and I gave her $ for her time meeting with me.

The next day she tells me she's a virgin. That she doesn't think she can give our arrangement a try.

A day or 2 later, she had another profile posted with a different name.

I hit it up, and she told me that was not her. Someone stole her pics.

You can try, but my advice is to stay away.

Freckle Freak
11-20-15, 09:09
First, I wanted to say thank you for starting this thread. Very useful info as I am just dipping my toes into the SD world.

I was curious if the more experienced and successful SDs could share any tips, or even an outline, on what to say when first contacting a SB. I'm not always good at the initial interaction with people and any advice would be great. Is it best to ask for a meet-up or wait for the girl to do so, and about how far along in the conversation, assuming she is interested, would you advise doing so? If all of this has been asked before, I apologize for missing it while reading over the thread and would appreciate being pointed then to the relevant entries.

Again, thank you.In this forum if you had RTFF. Below is a link to another forum that may be of some help, but you need to take the time to read it.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

FF.

P.S. Lot's of SB / SA ladies have freckles and I have tasted a few in the past.

Evalder
11-20-15, 12:35
In this forum if you had RTFF. Below is a link to another forum that may be of some help, but you need to take the time to read it.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

FF.

P.S. Lot's of SB / SA ladies have freckles and I have tasted a few in the past.I've read this thread and I've been making my way through the 700 plus pages of the other thread, but have not yet found the answers to my questions. While there is lots of good info, I've yet to find anything addressing what to say in that first message to a SB.

I noticed many freckled ladies as well. What did you say when first contacting them? How did you know, besides the freckles, that they were worth meeting?

Evalder
11-20-15, 14:48
While looking through the 700+ page Richmond thread, I came across another thread that is an Index of that thread: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2480291&viewfull=1.

Found it more useful than trying to wade through all those posts right off the bat so I thought I should share.

JaxSon07
11-20-15, 22:15
Just wanted to let you know about this one.

I met her a few months back.

Talked a real good game. Was open to all different types of arrangements.

We met at BobEvans. And the conversation went great. We came to an agreement and I gave her $ for her time meeting with me.

The next day she tells me she's a virgin. That she doesn't think she can give our arrangement a try.

A day or 2 later, she had another profile posted with a different name.

I hit it up, and she told me that was not her. Someone stole her pics.

You can try, but my advice is to stay away.I'll throw in a big warning on this girl too. She's not 18. I met up with her too, and I was skeptical so I managed to get her full name out of her. A little bit of Facebook work and I finally found her. And her page was full of 17th birthday wishes from just a few weeks earlier. I asked her, and she admitted to it. She's in high school and she can only go out when her mom goes to work. I don't know about everyone else, but for me there's way too many things that can go wrong trying to mess with this.

Inndy1
11-22-15, 16:35
She is on SA I messaged her a month ago she contacted me today and we talked for a bit on site. She needs help now and is straight forward in what she will do for you for some help. Don't know anything more because I'm unable time wise to do anything right now so didn't want to waste her time or mine. Just thought I would let everyone know in case they are looking or maybe someone has already seen and has more insight.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7255f101/view?search-created-new

Dente
11-22-15, 21:47
She is on SA I messaged her a month ago she contacted me today and we talked for a bit on site. She needs help now and is straight forward in what she will do for you for some help. Don't know anything more because I'm unable time wise to do anything right now so didn't want to waste her time or mine. Just thought I would let everyone know in case they are looking or maybe someone has already seen and has more insight.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7255f101/view?search-created-newPlease proceed with caution. The name that's linked to her e-mail account shows some dealing with uncle. I did not confirm the linkage with her.

GoodTimes007
12-01-15, 21:41
She is 5-9 thin, lots of tats and piercing. Likes young girls, looks and dress like a boy (She a girl). Once her clothes are off she has one hot body and is all girl. ANYTHING goes. Toys, greek, stays till your done. No clock at all. Getitgotitgood23. Take you heart meds before you ride this one! JB.No longer BJ, anal, or making out. Does look hot without clothes. In Bloomington.

Bfeguy
12-02-15, 13:46
No longer BJ, anal, or making out. Does look hot without clothes. In Bloomington.I was wondering about that.

When I was texting her 3 weeks ago she laid out all those same rules.

I saw your review and thought to myself that maybe it was just me.

I see now it wasn't just me after all.

With all those rules I don't see her doing well as a SB. But, what do I know.

JohnBuddy
12-02-15, 15:34
She is very real and will gladly meet you in your car and very economical. North Indy very petite! 4-11 100 lbs Nice girl. $.

Chill Pill
12-02-15, 21:46
After one month on SA and getting hosed repeatedly I'm done w / it. I expected a classier and more normal lady and instead I ran into 3 SB's that were total scams. 1st one, SD WANTED from good ole Warsaw, in fact turns out she only
lived less than 5 or 6 miles from me here in Northern Indiana. I agreed to pay $200 to meet (which I know is stupid) but thought I would only give it if she ended up going home w / me. She agreed but ended up getting sick and for a week later
demanded more and more money which I declined. Stay away from her.

Next Crystal7979 from good ole Greenwood. We met and chemistry was good. Later on she hit me up for rent said her previous SD drained her account and she was going to get kicked out of her house. I bought the sob story and next
day she claimed her money I gave her was stolen by her daughters friend. Wanted me to give her more. I declined and so after several days of texting I have no longer heard from her. She's very cute, very believable and very crooked.
Stay away,

The one who took the cake was only1 4 u from South Whitley. We arranged a meeting place, she claimed she had car trouble and her sister was bringing her to our meeting location. She hopped in my car and her sister followed us to my
house. We had agree on an overnight, she brought her clothes in my house and asked for an extra hundred for her sister cause she was pissed she had to bring her to meet me. I said no but she insisted. I gave her the money and
she dashed, I texted her a big WTF and she replied that she was coming back and had left her clothes there, she was getting gas for her sister and would be back shortly. Well needless to say after 30 min of texting w / her she was
silent and haven't heard from her since.

I've reported them all to SA but don't expect a whole lot. I've seen escorts for years and never had so much as a problem. Guess I'll stick w / them. Much simpler and cheaper.

IndyGuy123
12-03-15, 20:34
After one month on SA and getting hosed repeatedly I'm done w / it. I expected a classier and more normal lady and instead I ran into 3 SB's that were total scams. CP,

Sorry to hear about your misfortunes. There definitely are some scammers out there but my experience is much less than BP girls. The worst I have come across is a young lady that flaked out and went radio silent when we were to meet. Even then it wasted some time but no finances.

Indy Guy.

Evalder
12-04-15, 03:42
After one month on SA and getting hosed repeatedly I'm done w / it. I expected a classier and more normal lady.Sorry about your bad experiences. Thank you for sharing. Hopefully we can all learn by examining what went wrong in those scenarios and avoid any similar situations in the future.

GoodTimes007
12-04-15, 14:30
Chill Pill,

I'm sorry you had those experiences. I wouldn't give up but rather adjust how you go about doing the SA thing.

1. I don't agree to an amount prior to meeting if at all possible. Most sugar babies want a meet and greet and it should cost you nothing. "Let's meet over coffee and talk about an arrangement, and see if chemistry exists. " You may find yourself at your house that day, or on a second date.

2. SA saves all of your messaging, so be careful what you say online. Even if you delete, you can go back to the same lady, hit "view messages," then hit restore conversation. I'd make sure to tell them you'll only discuss it offline.

3. Download a texting ap like "text now," give them that number. If they go crazy, delete the ap.

4. Avoid the ladies that ***** sbout bills, want deposits before meeting, or that jump right into "how much can you pay me?" Especially avoid those that jump right into what type of menu they offer. Most are scams or too dumb to be discrete and careful. They'll meet uncle soon enough.

5. Search their name and umber on Facebook. I avoided a lady who had all druggie friends, and announcing house arrest. I searched mugshots and found she was arrested for child endangerment. A little homework can save you problems.

6. Never give money to a lady beyond what you agree to, I always say "I want a set per visit amount we can agree to, as I want to enjoy our time together without drama, and without this feeling like a transaction, beyond that amount I do not want asked for more. " I've only had one try, and I dumped her.


After one month on SA and getting hosed repeatedly I'm done w / it. I expected a classier and more normal lady and instead I ran into 3 SB's that were total scams. 1st one, SD WANTED from good ole Warsaw, in fact turns out she only
lived less than 5 or 6 miles from me here in Northern Indiana. I agreed to pay $200 to meet (which I know is stupid) but thought I would only give it if she ended up going home w / me. She agreed but ended up getting sick and for a week later
demanded more and more money which I declined. Stay away from her.

Next Crystal7979 from good ole Greenwood. We met and chemistry was good. Later on she hit me up for rent said her previous SD drained her account and she was going to get kicked out of her house. I bought the sob story and next
day she claimed her money I gave her was stolen by her daughters friend. Wanted me to give her more. I declined and so after several days of texting I have no longer heard from her. She's very cute, very believable and very crooked.
Stay away,

The one who took the cake was only1 4 u from South Whitley. We arranged a meeting place, she claimed she had car trouble and her sister was bringing her to our meeting location. She hopped in my car and her sister followed us to my
house. We had agree on an overnight, she brought her clothes in my house and asked for an extra hundred for her sister cause she was pissed she had to bring her to meet me. I said no but she insisted. I gave her the money and
she dashed, I texted her a big WTF and she replied that she was coming back and had left her clothes there, she was getting gas for her sister and would be back shortly. Well needless to say after 30 min of texting w / her she was
silent and haven't heard from her since.

I've reported them all to SA but don't expect a whole lot. I've seen escorts for years and never had so much as a problem. Guess I'll stick w / them. Much simpler and cheaper.

GoodTimes007
12-04-15, 15:01
She is very real and will gladly meet you in your car and very economical. North Indy very petite! 4-11 100 lbs Nice girl. $.Does she have good hygiene and a cute face? I noticed this one but her face is hidden, what I can see looked awkward:

Mike7794
12-04-15, 23:08
Chill pill. I'm sorry to read about your experience. Like Goodtimes mentioned if you change your approach you'll have success. I'm having the time of my life. I have 21, 22, and 23 year olds I'm doing on a regular to semi regular basis. Made a few early mistakes, but learned from the veterans on this site in Richmond and Los Angeles on how to work it and the girls.

Chill Pill
12-05-15, 01:13
Chill Pill,

I'm sorry you had those experiences. I wouldn't give up but rather adjust how you go about doing the SA thing.

1. I don't agree to an amount prior to meeting if at all possible. Most sugar babies want a meet and greet and it should cost you nothing. "Let's meet over coffee and talk about an arrangement, and see if chemistry exists. " You may find yourself at your house that day, or on a second date.

2. SA saves all of your messaging, so be careful what you say online. Even if you delete, you can go back to the same lady, hit "view messages," then hit restore conversation. I'd make sure to tell them you'll only discuss it offline.

3. Download a texting ap like "text now," give them that number. If they go crazy, delete the ap.

4. Avoid the ladies that ***** sbout bills, want deposits before meeting, or that jump right into "how much can you pay me?" Especially avoid those that jump right into what type of menu they offer. Most are scams or too dumb to be discrete and careful. They'll meet uncle soon enough.

5. Search their name and umber on Facebook. I avoided a lady who had all druggie friends, and announcing house arrest. I searched mugshots and found she was arrested for child endangerment. A little homework can save you problems.

6. Never give money to a lady beyond what you agree to, I always say "I want a set per visit amount we can agree to, as I want to enjoy our time together without drama, and without this feeling like a transaction, beyond that amount I do not want asked for more. " I've only had one try, and I dumped her.Thanks for the advice and condolences guys. The advice you gave me was same as my good friend Freckle Freak gave me. I was just totally taken off guard. I just expected a much classier and girl next door type of woman and happened to latch on to players instead of real sugar babies. I'm going to take a break for the time being and depending on.

What happens I will try again. I'll just treat them like escorts instead of women in need of money and companionship.

GoodTimes007
12-05-15, 08:44
Curious if anyone has Intel on Harley? Her legs have my head spinning. PM if you like.

Warning: ariana0089 . Had a meet and greet with her and she seemed cool, cute as her pictures for sure. She had a horribly strong perfume on that I made note to ask her not to wear if we saw each other again. Her finger nails were dirty, but other than that seemed like a struggling college chick. She wanted 250 per meet, I told her I'd think about it. The next day she sent enticing pics, so I decided to meet her despite her giving the red flag "I need to pay rent" bs. We met in public as I was limited on time. We began kissing and playing around a little, when I noticed a horrid smell of BO and strong odor of fish (just sayin' Moments later she began sweating so bad I just couldn't take it, I've never seen so much sweat with so little effort, so I gingerly bowed out. She blew up my phone with texts for about two days with more debt issues, then disappeared. Her hygiene was either a drug or health problem, either way I chose the high road and thought with my big head for a change. It's a shame as she was one cute lady. Some may not mind the aforementioned and if so I imagine she's good to go. But. Not for me.

IndyGuy123
12-05-15, 12:09
Curious if anyone has Intel on Harley? Her legs have my head spinning. PM if you like.

Warning: ariana0089 . Had a meet and greet with her and she seemed cool, cute as her pictures for sure. She had a horribly strong perfume on that I made note to ask her not to wear if we saw each other again. Her finger nails were dirty, but other than that seemed like a struggling college chick. She wanted 250 per meet, I told her I'd think about it. The next day she sent enticing pics, so I decided to meet her despite her giving the red flag "I need to pay rent" bs. We met in public as I was limited on time. We began kissing and playing around a little, when I noticed a horrid smell of BO and strong odor of fish (just sayin' Moments later she began sweating so bad I just couldn't take it, I've never seen so much sweat with so little effort, so I gingerly bowed out. She blew up my phone with texts for about two days with more debt issues, then disappeared. Her hygiene was either a drug or health problem, either way I chose the high road and thought with my big head for a change. It's a shame as she was one cute lady. Some may not mind the aforementioned and if so I imagine she's good to go. But. Not for me.GT,

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. However, I think you may have met her on a bad day. A couple respected senior members on this board and myself all know her and have had nothing but great times with her. None of us experienced the issues that you had. Not questioning that it happened just saying it may have been a bad day for her.

Indy Guy.

GoodTimes007
12-05-15, 17:10
GT,

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. However, I think you may have met her on a bad day. A couple respected senior members on this board and myself all know her and have had nothing but great times with her. None of us experienced the issues that you had. Not questioning that it happened just saying it may have been a bad day for her.

Indy Guy.IG,

I was a respected senior for some time (a few years ago) until I disagreed on an experience and received back lash for having said so on here. I had to change my user name as a result. I surely do not want to start that again, but can assure you that my experience was questionable enough to worry about my health and potential discretion. Glad to hear all went well for you.

Bigg2003
12-08-15, 13:28
I've recently exchanged messages with a Sugar Baby on SA, but she was rather direct (maybe even too direct) about her expectations and pricing:

Me: What are you looking for in a daddy?

SB: Someone to sexually pleasure once a week and be friends and get an allowance.

Me: Sounds perfect. What kind of allowance are you looking.

SB: $300 per meet.

Maybe I'm being overly paranoid and / or she is young and naive, but that's enough for anyone to run into trouble (especially when it's in writing). Would anyone else be comfortable seeing someone who wrote that to them?

JohnBuddy
12-08-15, 15:26
She is a very hot older lady 40 ish. Never had kids, wild as hell in the sack. She is one beautiful lady. Only problem is she is southern Indiana. Be nice to her she a sweetheart and loves the Colts games! Play nice!

GoodTimes007
12-09-15, 10:56
I've recently exchanged messages with a Sugar Baby on SA, but she was rather direct (maybe even too direct) about her expectations and pricing:

Me: What are you looking for in a daddy?

SB: Someone to sexually pleasure once a week and be friends and get an allowance.

Me: Sounds perfect. What kind of allowance are you looking.

SB: $300 per meet.

Maybe I'm being overly paranoid and / or she is young and naive, but that's enough for anyone to run into trouble (especially when it's in writing). Would anyone else be comfortable seeing someone who wrote that to them?I had an identical conversation with an Amber who also listed out a bunch of rules. I passed as she seemed careless in her communication and lacked the charm that many more affordable ladies offer on that site. The best SBs know what we want and prefer to meet and talk prior to setting a price. In my humble opinion, if they aren't concerned with chemistry the experience would likely be no more rewarding than BP for you, and 300 is an awefully high price for a BP style arrangement.

There is another "boy looking" young lady trying to collect the same amount and reaching out unsolicited with "want to meet up? $300. " I took one look at her profile and question her legal age. Play safe.

Mwdude
12-09-15, 14:41
She is a very hot older lady 40 ish. Never had kids, wild as hell in the sack. She is one beautiful lady. Only problem is she is southern Indiana. Be nice to her she a sweetheart and loves the Colts games! Play nice!How far south? How do I get her number without paying outrageous SA fees?

Nostra3
12-10-15, 10:21
I had an identical conversation with an Amber who also listed out a bunch of rules. I passed as she seemed careless in her communication and lacked the charm that many more affordable ladies offer on that site. The best SBs know what we want and prefer to meet and talk prior to setting a price. In my humble opinion, if they aren't concerned with chemistry the experience would likely be no more rewarding than BP for you, and 300 is an awefully high price for a BP style arrangement.

There is another "boy looking" young lady trying to collect the same amount and reaching out unsolicited with "want to meet up? $300. " I took one look at her profile and question her legal age. Play safe.I know Amber. Total waste of space on this earth. If you met her it would be the worst $300 you've ever spent.

And I also got the message from the extremely young looking girl. I asked her if she was even 18. She said yes, I told her I'd need to see I'd.

Evalder
12-10-15, 12:57
I've recently exchanged messages with a Sugar Baby on SA, but she was rather direct (maybe even too direct) about her expectations and pricing:

Me: What are you looking for in a daddy?

SB: Someone to sexually pleasure once a week and be friends and get an allowance.

Me: Sounds perfect. What kind of allowance are you looking.

SB: $300 per meet.

Maybe I'm being overly paranoid and / or she is young and naive, but that's enough for anyone to run into trouble (especially when it's in writing). Would anyone else be comfortable seeing someone who wrote that to them?That is a big red flag for me, and more cash than I would want to agree to pay without ever having met. The appeal of an SB over a Pro / UTR for me is the dating and long sessions spent together. I won't do any talk of price before the meet and greet. Also be wary of getting locked into a price. Price are more likely to go up over time, not down. Plus 300 is more than any, and I mean any of the girls have ever asked of me on SB after texting / meeting. Maybe I'm lucky.

Evalder
12-10-15, 13:17
How far south? How do I get her number without paying outrageous SA fees?I don't think the cost for one month is really that outrageous. In the long haul, one month on SA can pay for itself if you find the right woman / women.

JohnBuddy
12-10-15, 15:29
Very very nice young lady (20). Upside, she has her own place in upscale area Zionsville. Great open menu and very easy on the wallet. Downside a little heavier than her. Pics. But some big young boobies. Play safe!

Golfer72
12-10-15, 17:22
Is there any way to search by username on SA?

Dente
12-10-15, 18:57
Is there any way to search by username on SA?Yes, enter the username in the profile text box.

Indy Tech
12-10-15, 19:24
Is there any way to search by username on SA?You can only do that type of search with a paid subscription.

Indy Tech
12-10-15, 19:26
How far south? How do I get her number without paying outrageous SA fees?If you download the Android app, you can pay cheaper rates for less subscription time, but IMHO, SA pays for itself in the long run.

Evalder
12-10-15, 19:34
Is there any way to search by username on SA?Yes. In the search filter choose / toggle down "profile text" and input the username your looking for. If age, body, area, etc would exclude them they won't show up. For example if you're looking for Name, but Name is Asian and your search is limited to Caucasian she won't show.

Inndy1
12-10-15, 23:45
Is there any way to search by username on SA?Go to filter and look for profile text put name and make sure city and state are correct and then research it will come up.

IndyGuy123
12-11-15, 10:19
There has been repeated conversation about the SA fees and opinions on whether or not it is worth it. As many have said, it is. However, since you are paying a monthly subscription, the value is set by how many ladies you are able to see in that time. If your budget only allows you to see 1 or 2 ladies a month, it may not be worth your time or subscription fee.

Here are a few pointers from a relative new guy to SA but had massive success in just a single month:

If the $70 subscription is an issue, sign up for the basic membership today but don't upgrade to premium. In a short time, they will offer you a lowered subscription fee. It drops nearly in half. This will be for 1 month. After a month, do not renew. Wait a month or so and then sign up again when they offer you the lowered premium rate again. If you do it right, you will have enough in the pipeline to keep you busy until the fees drop again.

In that month, go crazy and contact every girl you are interested in. Some will not reply for one reason or another. Some are game players (not many). Then you will get the girls that are serious. Get them offline as soon as possible with phone numbers or similar contact methods that way you can contact them even after your month is up. Feel them out. Some are willing to take there time and communicate for a while before meeting while others want to meet quickly or will stop communicating as they think you are just playing games and aren't serious. Meet the ones that want to meet right away and slowly work in the ones that are willing to wait but don't wait too long.

If you like them young and are willing to drive, there are hot beds of smoking hot young coeds in the big colleges to the north and south. Some are willing to drive to you. Most of this young beauties don't care if you are old or not.

Be sure to be VERY discrete about talking about them here or on any similar board. I communicate routinely with a young lady that was recently mentioned on this board. She told me how it was strange because her contacts on that sight jumped seemingly overnight.

Lastly, be sure to PM me with any legit redheads, freckles, or best of all freckled reds. Don't tell that other guy on here. He can find out later.

Indy Guy.

BigGuyUAteMe
12-11-15, 11:24
You can use the search function without a paid subscription, I have done it.

BG.


You can only do that type of search with a paid subscription.

Evalder
12-11-15, 13:56
You can use the search function without a paid subscription, I have done it.

BG.Ditto that. I have a separate non-premium acct just for doing searches or checking out who looked at / Favorited me without having to use my main.

Indy Tech
12-12-15, 01:44
Ditto that. I have a separate non-premium acct just for doing searches or checking out who looked at / Favorited me without having to use my main.Sorry about the false information, I guess I didn't figure out the text search until I had a paid subscription.

For punishment, I am putting myself on a freckle free diet for a week.

BigGuyUAteMe
12-12-15, 11:30
Don't you think that that's a little too harsh of punishment?

BG.

P.S. Have fun, play safe, do your research, give and get respect, if you find freckles PM FF, then TPHFB.


Sorry about the false information, I guess I didn't figure out the text search until I had a paid subscription.

For punishment, I am putting myself on a freckle free diet for a week.

Indy Tech
12-12-15, 13:15
Don't you think that that's a little too harsh of punishment?

BG.Not at all, I guess I should have mentioned that my two current babies are without freckles. My ATF is a thick 23 year old Hispanic FREAK. My other is a 25 year old Hispanic spinner, that gives porn star quality blow jobs.

I will somehow make it through my week of punishment, not to worry.

IndyGuy123
12-12-15, 16:56
Not at all, I guess I should have mentioned that my two current babies are without freckles. My ATF is a thick 23 year old Hispanic FREAK. My other is a 25 year old Hispanic spinner, that gives porn star quality blow jobs.Where is the punishment? That sounds like taking car keys from a teenager when the car has a blown engine.

Indy Guy.

Indy Tech
12-12-15, 21:33
where is the punishment? That sounds like taking car keys from a teenager when the car has a blown engine.

Indy guy.they don't have freckles.

BiteOfTheApple
12-13-15, 12:30
Stay away from Dezirae in SA. Cash and dasher.

Evalder
12-13-15, 19:33
Stay away from Dezirae in SA. Cash and dasher.Sorry about your experience.

She tired to get me to see her. Something about her seemed fishy. Glad I stayed away.

Take care and thanks for the heads up.

Hobbyist45
12-13-15, 22:18
Stay away from Dezirae in SA. Cash and dasher.She messaged me last night out of the blue asking if I was available. Red flags all over the place.

Dangerb
12-13-15, 22:36
Anyone have any info on her? She messaged me and said she was driving up to Fort Wayne and wanted to meet and hinted maybe more. We had never messages before. Any help would be appreciated. Profile says she is from Greenwiid.

GoodTimes007
12-13-15, 23:59
Stay away from Dezirae in SA. Cash and dasher.I would never have guessed with that innocent face. Bummer. She looks cute. Here is what I'm learning, anyone care to add to the list?

1. If they only have one picture, likely a scam.

2. "I am hot and want your money but don't ask for sex because you aren't getting it. " Can I please buy the man a beer that allow these women to exist? I'll provide them advice at half the price, and won't make him take me shopping.

3. Do the "two or three for one" really think we are dumb enough to think we'd benefit at all?

4. What value does mamaj, therealoprawhinfrey, kaileyr1, becca07, yourgirl_xo, mia32114, cupcake47, iceblue, and the like ad to SA other than sign us up for memberships?

5. Does SA need to age validate, or should they just allow dateline to do an episode on us?

6. Why does "I'm not a prostitute" translate to "the more hot an affordable version of," and why aren't there more of you?

7. Since when is a 300 lbs girl a sugar baby? Yes, made of sugar, but nobody I'd call baby.

8. Is there an attractive black lady in Indy that does not induce risk to ones health and safety? So hot, so many scams! Why!

9. Is Snow White a ***** or is it just me?

10. If I'm paying $150 for a Starbucks, can I cum in it first?

IndyGuy123
12-14-15, 17:16
1. If they only have one picture, likely a scam.Although I know there are some that this may be the case, not necessarily true. If you get her talking away from the site and she still won't send you a picture then likely a scam. If in question, get them to text you a picture that is distinctive and not a standard pose.


2. "I am hot and want your money but don't ask for sex because you aren't getting it. " Can I please buy the man a beer that allow these women to exist? I'll provide them advice at half the price, and won't make him take me shopping.Some of them do this as they want to really play the SB role. Get them alone after a M&G and "you aren't getting any" turns into I will give you more than you can take.


3. Do the "two or three for one" really think we are dumb enough to think we'd benefit at all?Agree! 2 or 3 times the allowance but the same amount of playing.


4. What value does mamaj, therealoprawhinfrey, kaileyr1, becca07, yourgirl_xo, mia32114, cupcake47, iceblue, and the like ad to SA other than sign us up for memberships?I can tell you on more than one of them they add a lot. .


5. Does SA need to age validate, or should they just allow dateline to do an episode on us?Agree. If they are young and even in question, ask them to see their driver's license. If they won't do it, exit stage right.


6. Why does "I'm not a prostitute" translate to "the more hot an affordable version of," and why aren't there more of you?So true and some of the best out there imo.


7. Since when is a 300 lbs girl a sugar baby? Yes, made of sugar, but nobody I'd call baby.Not my thing but big girls need loving too and some guys, including on this forum, like the bigger ladies.


10. If I'm paying $150 for a Starbucks, can I cum in it first?Never pay for the M&G other than any food or refreshments you have during that time.

I will add one item. Since you can search by hair color, the redheads are covered. They need a search parameter for freckles!

Indy Guy.

JaxSon07
12-14-15, 19:17
I would never have guessed with that innocent face. Bummer. She looks cute. Here is what I'm learning, anyone care to add to the list?

1. If they only have one picture, likely a scam.

2. "I am hot and want your money but don't ask for sex because you aren't getting it. " Can I please buy the man a beer that allow these women to exist? I'll provide them advice at half the price, and won't make him take me shopping.

3. Do the "two or three for one" really think we are dumb enough to think we'd benefit at all?

4. What value does mamaj, therealoprawhinfrey, kaileyr1, becca07, yourgirl_xo, mia32114, cupcake47, iceblue, and the like ad to SA other than sign us up for memberships?

5. Does SA need to age validate, or should they just allow dateline to do an episode on us?

6. Why does "I'm not a prostitute" translate to "the more hot an affordable version of," and why aren't there more of you?

7. Since when is a 300 lbs girl a sugar baby? Yes, made of sugar, but nobody I'd call baby.

8. Is there an attractive black lady in Indy that does not induce risk to ones health and safety? So hot, so many scams! Why!

9. Is Snow White a ***** or is it just me?

10. If I'm paying $150 for a Starbucks, can I cum in it first?I know for fact a few of those names you mentioned are very much for real. You just have to get used to running into some flaky girls, or girls that start a conversation on the website and then don't check messages for a few days or even weeks. But it's definitely a numbers game, there is so many available gals that if you throw out enough lines you're going to have more than you have time for.

The underage thing does seem to be becoming for of an issue. I met up with an Asian girl last week, and I highly doubt she was a day over 16. Due to her looks and her maturity level in face to face conversation. She had nothing to verify her age, so I declined and got out of there.

And I think I have only came across one scam in all of my dealing. And it was obvious right away. She was asking for a MoneyPak before meeting. Other than that, I haven't had a hint of a scam.

Evalder
12-15-15, 01:41
Here is what I'm learning, anyone care to add to the list?

1. If they only have one picture, likely a scam.Not always. I think that maybe you're having trouble with your approach or interactions with the women on the site.


2. "I am hot and want your money but don't ask for sex because you aren't getting it. " Can I please buy the man a beer that allow these women to exist? I'll provide them advice at half the price, and won't make him take me shopping.I know of a few scenarios where having arm candy would be useful and where the guy might not be looking for sex. Different people want different things. If you and those ladies don't want the same things, then move on. Also just cause they say they don't want sex, doesn't mean they will not become intimate. It just may take more time / skill / effort than you are willing to put in.


3. Do the "two or three for one" really think we are dumb enough to think we'd benefit at all?Never tried them, go a rip-off / scam vibe from one and the other I saw you couldn't pay me to date. YMMV, but I doubt those are good deals.


4. What value does mamaj, therealoprawhinfrey, kaileyr1, becca07, yourgirl_xo, mia32114, cupcake47, iceblue, and the like ad to SA other than sign us up for memberships?I can tell you that I personally know a few of those you listed. One is very, very picky and some of the others require a good deal of charm and finesse to reach. Again I think your approach may be an issue as might be your profile.


5. Does SA need to age validate, or should they just allow dateline to do an episode on us?They should age validate, but not sure how they would do so outside of collecting DLN numbers or something, and that would scare off a lot of girls.

I'm also of the mindset there should be some kind of barrier to entry for the ladies, but no idea what that would be.


6. Why does "I'm not a prostitute" translate to "the more hot an affordable version of," and why aren't there more of you?I don't know. Need more of them for sure. I think the "Not a prostitute" label is to for their own sense of self worth and mostly to ward off creeps. From what I've heard, guys are talking to these girls like they are responding to a backpage ad. Guys are being creepy, rude and inappropriate right out of the gate.


7. Since when is a 300 lbs girl a sugar baby? Yes, made of sugar, but nobody I'd call baby.Different people have different tastes. While they may not be to my or your liking, they are still people and still have some inherent self worth and someone will find them attractive.


8. Is there an attractive black lady in Indy that does not induce risk to ones health and safety? So hot, so many scams! Why!I don't particularly fancy the AA ladies. But from speaking with a few and from some other research, it seems they get the fewest number of men messaging them. If you are encountering scams, please report them on the site along with any proof of the attempted scam.


9. Is Snow White a ***** or is it just me?Never talked to her. Can't say. Might be her, might be you.


10. If I'm paying $150 for a Starbucks, can I cum in it first?Never, ever, ever, pay the lady for the Meet and Greet. Heck if you play your cards right, sometimes you can get her to buy your drink.

GoodTimes007
12-15-15, 08:32
Thank you so much for the replies, I will surely keep trying with the limited A list. I don't believe in posting positive experiences publicly as I have yet to meet a lady wanting public reviews on SA. Now, if I feel one falls into the realm of unsafe or insane, I will provide warning. However if either of you have inquiries, I'd be happy to share my positive encounters via PM. I appreciate the replies.

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12-16-15, 09:58
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IndyGuy123
12-16-15, 16:22
We all talk about SA so much. What about AF (Arrangement Finder)? A lot of the girls are the same but there are also a number that are not on SA. AF is even a sponsor of this little site we call home.

Indy Guy.

Indy Tech
12-16-15, 21:10
We all talk about SA so much. What about AF (Arrangement Finder)? A lot of the girls are the same but there are also a number that are not on SA. AF is even a sponsor of this little site we call home.

Indy Guy.I know that SA boasts about no fake profiles, and I believe that to be true. Not sure about AF, but I'll stick to SA. I already don't have enough time in my day, or days in my week juggling SA babies.

Evalder
12-17-15, 12:49
Anyone have any experience with Misskay30. I have been chatting for a while with her, and want to be sure she legit.I have only briefly chatted with her online. She seemed okay, but still be safe. I got distracted by life and several other SBs that I found more interesting to talk to.

You probably know this, but I'll say it anyway: Follow the usual M&G in public protocols and don't bring too much cash and play it smart. Always think with the big head and make the SBs work for your attention and generosity.

Evalder
12-17-15, 12:53
I don't believe in posting positive experiences publicly as I have yet to meet a lady wanting public reviews on SA. Now, if I feel one falls into the realm of unsafe or insane, I will provide warning.I agree with that 100%.

Nostra3
12-17-15, 13:42
Not always. I think that maybe you're having trouble with your approach or interactions with the women on the site.

Never tried them, go a rip-off / scam vibe from one and the other I saw you couldn't pay me to date. YMMV, but I doubt those are good deals.

I can tell you that I personally know a few of those you listed. One is very, very picky and some of the others require a good deal of charm and finesse to reach. Again I think your approach may be an issue as might be your profile.I agree with the others on this. I also know several of the girls on your list and one of them is absolutely spectacular. She showed me the messages she gets on there, and 9 of 10 are horrifying. We're lucky any of them stay on longer than a week. You have to go out of your way to set yourself apart from the herd, especially with the top notch ones.

Evalder
12-17-15, 18:47
I agree with the others on this. I also know several of the girls on your list and one of them is absolutely spectacular. She showed me the messages she gets on there, and 9 of 10 are horrifying. We're lucky any of them stay on longer than a week. You have to go out of your way to set yourself apart from the herd, especially with the top notch ones.From conversations with the ladies on the site, even those I have no interest in, it is appalling how some of these men behave. From asking how much $ for X, to a guy whose first message to a girl was "I bet your pussy taste great".

SBs (well most anyway) are not BP girls. I'm honestly concerned that the monger hoards will end up spoiling it for those looking for something more than an escort.

Tonylove465
12-17-15, 19:03
Heads up! Guys.

Amber M /21 Indianapolis.

She is probably the hottest chick I've met on SA.

She is a lot of talk. Maybe you might get some attention. Hopefully she learned what this site is about. But chances are she's going to tell ya the SOB stories and ask for money all the time.

Met her this past spring / summer. The first month I knew her she was locked up for 2 weeks.

Kept asking for money for court fees, attorney fees and playing the baby card. Baby needs diapers, please. Baby needs food, please.

She's changed her profile name. It was Angie.

Jjbee62
12-17-15, 21:49
From conversations with the ladies on the site, even those I have no interest in, it is appalling how some of these men behave. From asking how much $ for X, to a guy whose first message to a girl was "I bet your pussy taste great".

SBs (well most anyway) are not BP girls. I'm honestly concerned that the monger hoards will end up spoiling it for those looking for something more than an escort.I wouldn't worry about it too much. I have a few single female friends on regular dating sites and they get the same stuff from guys. If anything, it makes things much easier for the guys with a bit of class. All you have to do is treat them nice and you're already in the top 10%.

Hobbyist45
12-18-15, 01:19
Heads up! Guys.

Amber M /21 Indianapolis.

She is probably the hottest chick I've met on SA.

She is a lot of talk. Maybe you might get some attention. Hopefully she learned what this site is about. But chances are she's going to tell ya the SOB stories and ask for money all the time.

Met her this past spring / summer. The first month I knew her she was locked up for 2 weeks.

Kept asking for money for court fees, attorney fees and playing the baby card. Baby needs diapers, please. Baby needs food, please.

She's changed her profile name. It was Angie.Thanks for the heads up. Been messaging her today and definitely don't need the drama.

Evalder
12-18-15, 01:30
Guys,

I wrote that top 10 list out of humor Humor can be quite hard to interpret, and I apologize if I misinterpreted anything.


In my opinion, this is a community of brothers that should lookout for one another.You are correct, and any criticism we give should be more constructive. My comments about the girls being real and suggestion that your approach may be to blame were meant to be helpful, not a criticism or in any way mean spirited.

Also very much agree that warning posts are helpful to all. It seems like the rule on SBs should be no public recommendations, just warnings.


Having spent a considerable amount of time in POF, Ashley Madison, and others, I can confidently say that idiot men, monger or not, say stupid things. If my top 10 list is considered such, I apologize to the community.I will admit to poor choice of words in my response, and shouldn't have equated the idiots posting rude things there to mongers. That was unfair. I apologize.

Miscommunications and misunderstandings happen. No need to apologize, but it very big of you to do so.

NiceGuy52
12-18-15, 07:59
Has anyone ever met Harley from SA. We have traded texts several times and she seems legit. Offers a complete and full menu. But just wondered before I take the plunge.

Nostra3
12-18-15, 11:59
Heads up! Guys.

Amber M /21 Indianapolis.

She is probably the hottest chick I've met on SA.

She is a lot of talk. Maybe you might get some attention. Hopefully she learned what this site is about. But chances are she's going to tell ya the SOB stories and ask for money all the time.

Met her this past spring / summer. The first month I knew her she was locked up for 2 weeks.

Kept asking for money for court fees, attorney fees and playing the baby card. Baby needs diapers, please. Baby needs food, please.

She's changed her profile name. It was Angie.I'll repeat myself, stay away from this one. She's a total and complete piece of shit. And way less hot since the baby damage, anyway.

BiteOfTheApple
12-19-15, 12:42
Has anyone ever met Harley from SA. We have traded texts several times and she seems legit. Offers a complete and full menu. But just wondered before I take the plunge.I met her in the summer for coffee, etc. She seems legit. I did not take the plunge, however, she was wearing an ankle bracelet at the time. So, I moved on.

Bigg2003
12-19-15, 22:24
I'll repeat myself, stay away from this one. She's a total and complete piece of shit. And way less hot since the baby damage, anyway.Thanks! She's been messaging me a lot lately trying to meet.

Bigg2003
12-19-15, 22:36
If anyone has any experience with her, please PM me.

Dente
12-20-15, 11:23
If anyone has any experience with her, please PM me.She's totally legit and open to most things. I've met up with her previously in Indy as she does not mind traveling to meet.

Inndy1
12-20-15, 21:43
She's totally legit and open to most things. I've met up with her previously in Indy as she does not mind traveling to meet.From Kentucky? Is that the one?

Bigg2003
12-20-15, 23:07
From Kentucky? Is that the one?That is correct.

Hobbyist45
12-21-15, 08:30
From Lafayette. Got something in the works with her. If anyone has seen her and willing to pass along any info (pm), I'd be greatly appreciative.

Evalder
12-21-15, 21:27
From Lafayette. Got something in the works with her. If anyone has seen her and willing to pass along any info (pm), I'd be greatly appreciative.Chatted with her a bit. Didn't quite strike my fancy, but seemed nice. Good luck.

GoodTimes007
12-22-15, 13:13
LizzieH "Well last guy I have gave me an upfront in Amazon as a way for him to show me that he's not lying about his wealthy and it was only like $6,000 dollars so nothing huge, then we met that night and the next day he gave me 50,000 for 8 months and hen after that 8 months anther 50,000. ".

Passionateamdreal: "My books are $607.89. $2 k a month". She said someone gave her a bad check, shame on whomever that was. I will say, she's very rude throughout the entire process.

I think these two are out of my league.

GoodTimes007
12-22-15, 13:25
Was a waste of time for me. No call, no show, after what I felt was incredible chemistry. I think the issue is that she requires a meet and greet on the south side, but she could have said such instead of leaving me stranded at a Starbucks for an hour with no returned text. I'm embarrassed to say that the day prior she did the same thing but had texted that time to apologize. Both times I left it cool, including the flat out "blown off" occasion and left it at "I hope all is well and that you are ok. I'm leaving now, but if you get this and are alright let me know. " Nothing. I'm sure she's good for some, but a bit disrespectful to me. I've noticed this trend of great conversation, a strong desire to meet, then the time comes and a lot of cancelations. It must be the holidays.

Bfeguy
12-23-15, 15:35
Anyone have any intell on this one?

Been communicating and am 80% convinced she would be down for a good time.

Bubbler99
12-25-15, 12:50
So she is the one with a BP ad AND a SA ad.

And YOU are too promiscuous?

Wow.

Delusional.Brittney goes by urlittlebaby on SA and SD4 ME. I met her for dinner in TH as well. She's got a rockin hot body with an ass to die for (thank you God for creating yoga pants). Conversation, while pleasant, seemed fake, insincere and a bit cold even when discussing intimate subjects. I am considering a follow up visit with her at her place to see if she warms up some in private. Getting up close and personal with that incredible body should be worth the trip!

Bfeguy
12-25-15, 13:00
Anyone have any intell on this one?

Been communicating and am 80% convinced she would be down for a good time.Well, the last 20% of convincing me seeing Monroe pretty much went to hell in a handbasket two days ago.

We got to the donation part of things and she started in how broke she was, electricity was going to get turned off on Christmas eve blah blah.

So I offered to come and see her right then. Said she was babysitting and could I front her the money right then and she would see me the next day. For the hell of it, I asked her to send me some pictures of her standing in front of a mirror holding two fingers up. She agreed, so that confirmed the girl in the picture matched the profile picture on SA.

I explained that our first meeting needed to be face to face with any donations for her time would be addressed at that time. She then asked again if there was anyway I could see it my heart to send her the money for her light bill that day. I acted like I didn't know how to send money like this and she sent me the link for Western Union and explained how it worked.

I told her again, lets meet now. She said she had to go to work right after babysitting and that she could meet me after she got off work but needed the money (200.00) to pay her light bill before 5 pm that day. Even sent me an address.

I acted like my internet wouldn't hook to the Western Union site. She said I will set an account up for you and you can just give me your card number and I can but it in for you.

I said let me know when you have it ready. About 5 min later she texts me saying its ready to go, what is your card number. Wow.

So I respond asking her what made her think that I would just hand over my card information to a prefect stranger. Hell, my family don't even have this information.

So she starts in how I'm just like the rest of the guys on the site, totally fake and uncaring. I kept communicating as I had nothing better to do at the time. She explained that I did not understand how all of this works. (excuse me, I have been at this for going on 39 years) and that if I expected to see her then I had to pay her up front. Really, I thought it was for her pastdue light bill.

I MapQuested the address and it appears to be a 200,000+ home in a location close to water.

Needless to say, BEWARE OF THIS ONE. I would suggest anyone thining about this woman to reconsider.

Happy holidays to all you guys.

Romeoinsd
12-25-15, 15:29
From Lafayette. Got something in the works with her. If anyone has seen her and willing to pass along any info (pm), I'd be greatly appreciative.Let us know how that goes.

She was all talk and no go with me.

Romeoinsd
12-25-15, 15:33
Needless to say, BEWARE OF THIS ONE. I would suggest anyone thining about this woman to reconsider.

Happy holidays to all you guys.Thanks for the head-up on this one! She recently reached out to me, so at least I now know where the talks will be geared towards. A moneygram.

Romeoinsd
12-25-15, 15:43
Greeneyedbb & Brooklynn. Same person, setups multiple accounts. Gives home address right away for a meet. This person is either a fake, sting, or rob. Went silent when I asked for a unique pic.I finally saw this girl. Extremely sweet. Extreme bubbly personality. Pics are accurate.

The only negative is that she is basically a high volume girl using SA instead of BP. She is not that bright.

She is sweet enough that I am hoping her Uncle doesn't catch on.

Bfeguy
12-25-15, 22:10
Brittney goes by urlittlebaby on SA and SD4 ME. I met her for dinner in TH as well. She's got a rockin hot body with an ass to die for (thank you God for creating yoga pants). Conversation, while pleasant, seemed fake, insincere and a bit cold even when discussing intimate subjects. I am considering a follow up visit with her at her place to see if she warms up some in private. Getting up close and personal with that incredible body should be worth the trip!Back in October her and I started texting. Oh my god what a hot body. After a couple of days of this she lured me from Indy to Terre Haute on the premise of meeting for lunch and then on to her place for dessert.

We had lunch. Kept going to the bathroom, like three times. After the third time she came out and said she had never done this and couldn't go thru with it and left.

About 4 weeks ago, I'm on the website and she hits me up like we never spoke. I reminded her of the fiasco back in October. She said "Well, if you are going to bring that up, then what's the use in talking again?" I told her, "My point exactly".

I think she is bi-polar.

JuanPelota57
12-27-15, 10:31
Back in October her and I started texting. Oh my god what a hot body. After a couple of days of this she lured me from Indy to Terre Haute on the premise of meeting for lunch and then on to her place for dessert.

We had lunch. Kept going to the bathroom, like three times. After the third time she came out and said she had never done this and couldn't go thru with it and left.

About 4 weeks ago, I'm on the website and she hits me up like we never spoke. I reminded her of the fiasco back in October. She said "Well, if you are going to bring that up, then what's the use in talking again?" I told her, "My point exactly".

I think she is bi-polar.I 'dated' Britt for a few months. She definitely is a pro at the SB game. I agree with all of the comments here as well as those over on the BP forum. I finally had enough of the drive to TH so I ended it. If she lived in Indy I'd probably have continued with her BS as she is very hot.

Evalder
12-27-15, 16:06
Well, the last 20% of convincing me seeing Monroe pretty much went to hell in a handbasket...Happy holidays to all you guys.Thanks for the heads up. Happy Holidays to you as well.

Romeoinsd
12-30-15, 23:17
Proceed carefully with this one!

If you contact her thru SA, she plays the innocent girl whose sh*t doesn't stink and who claims to not know any abbreviations such as GFE, hhr, hr, etc. $300 to "just hang out because I have never done this before."

If you contact her because you found her old escort ads, than she checks references and only does outcall for $$hour.

If you call her out on her BS, she does a "urlittlebaby" act and goes postal on you.

I have no respect for girls that want to play it both ways and get paid for nothing SA-style.

GoodTimes007
12-31-15, 07:51
I've been talking on and off with the following ladies for some time now, curious if any have Intel? I'm trying to do some process of elimination here as all require some serious follow up and yet seem worth it. Please PM for the sake of their discretion unless clear warnings are necessary for all.

Jenna.

Amber H maybe drama?

Lexi2716.

Taprath.

Mamaj92.

Scarlett.

Bexpat.

Thanks.

Romeoinsd
01-01-16, 14:00
I've been talking on and off with the following ladies for some time now, curious if any have Intel? I'm trying to do some process of elimination here as all require some serious follow up and yet seem worth it. Please PM for the sake of their discretion unless clear warnings are necessary for all.

Jenna.

Amber H maybe drama?

Lexi2716.

Taprath.

Mamaj92.

Scarlett.

Bexpat.

Thanks.For me, they were all time-wasters except for Mamaj92. They either respond once per month or not at all. I sometimes wonder if these are somewhat of shill accounts just to get you to renew your account.

But either way, you should still try and go for them. They could just be ignoring me because they didn't like me.

TheDistance
01-01-16, 14:22
As someone who's been enjoying this type of relationships for a long time, I thought I'd add a few things (you can see some of my advice early in this thread).

What I've seen from Evalder, Goodtimes and IndyGuy echoes my thoughts and experiences. The ladies I'm looking for are not pros, and treating them like a pro isn't going to go anywhere. The ones I'm looking for are generally young ladies that want to be wined and dined, get their nails and hair done, maybe a little help here and there with the rent. The relationship I'm interested in is much more a committed, caring, friends-with-benefits style than a "menu-based" type of relationship. I don't use SA, so I'm not really qualified to comment directly on the resources that are available; I tend to meet my SBs through real life interactions or sometimes through Craigslist. I bring the same amount of charm, attention and effort as I would to a normal dating relationship, and that's what I expect in return.

First, I want to echo all the advice about never paying for a M&G. I'll buy dinner, spring for the coffee or drinks, whatever. I usually shoot for a lunch meeting just because it's more casual. I treat it like a flirtatious job interview. I want to know about the person, their thoughts, what their requirements are, and why they think they'd make a good sugar baby. I don't necessarily want to hear their sob story (if there is one). I wouldn't dream of giving someone money through Western Union / Moneygram. They need to put forth the effort if they want me to reciprocate. Ladies with the attitude that the DADDY needs to give them something first are living in a fantasy world (or they're being successful taking advantage of guys who are a bit too desperate and don't understand the dynamics of this type of relationship yet).

Second, I wouldn't EVER give a prospective SB a second chance to stand me up. She misses that first date, or she's more than a few minutes late (and I'd better know she's going to be late), and I'm done. Just like I'd treat it if there was a job interview. I've had strings of dead mothers, dead step-fathers, dead daughters, hospitalized loved ones, ER visit excuses. I've also had overslept, got in the shower late, was cleaning out my closet. I really don't care what the excuse is, obviously meeting wasn't important enough to you, so don't cry to me that your rent is due.

Third, there are a lot of sweet, smart, sexy young ladies that are thrilled to death with a steady, committed $600-$800 per month. They're not having to work 100 hours to get that, they generally get to have a good time, etc. If you do your best to treat them well both in public and in private, they'll respond. The idea of $6000 up front "to prove your wealth" is ludicrous in the extreme. That may be necessary if you're trying to seduce some Hollywood starlet, but a midwestern college cutie? Maybe I'm just not that desperate. I do get the occasional "$1000/ wk" type of woman, and strangely, they generally seem to be the least attractive variety. It's weird.

I know on another thread it was said that all these girls are pros, but I don't see it that way. I don't think there's anything at all wrong with a woman being attracted to a guy because he treats her nicely. As a matter of fact, I think it makes perfect sense for a college student who is focused on her school and doesn't want the drama of a "normal" relationship to seek out this kind of relationship. I think there's plenty of reasons for a young lady to be attracted to a decent looking, well kept, gentleman who takes good care of her without it making her a professional or a sex worker.

TD.

P.S. I saw Britt a couple of times a few years back, but got a real serious "stripper vibe" from here with her wanting to negotiate everything. I got a good chuckle at her, "Never done this before" spiel mentioned here. Honestly, I don't like real "meaty" girl parts, either, so I didn't find her that attractive out of her clothes.

Evalder
01-01-16, 16:59
I've been talking on and off with the following ladies for some time now, curious if any have Intel? I'm trying to do some process of elimination here as all require some serious follow up and yet seem worth it. Please PM for the sake of their discretion unless clear warnings are necessary for all.

Jenna. Bit of Attitude and Drama. Got a GPS vibe from her.

Others I will PM you info.

Evalder
01-01-16, 17:02
As someone who's been enjoying this type of relationships for a long time, I thought I'd add a few things (you can see some of my advice early in this thread).

What I've seen from Evalder, Goodtimes and IndyGuy echoes my thoughts and experiences. The ladies I'm looking for are not pros, and treating them like a pro isn't going to go anywhere. The ones I'm looking for are generally young ladies that want to be wined and dined, get their nails and hair done, maybe a little help here and there with the rent. The relationship I'm interested in is much more a committed, caring, friends-with-benefits style than a "menu-based" type of relationship. I don't use SA, so I'm not really qualified to comment directly on the resources that are available; I tend to meet my SBs through real life interactions or sometimes through Craigslist. I bring the same amount of charm, attention and effort as I would to a normal dating relationship, and that's what I expect in return.

First, I want to echo all the advice about never paying for a M&G. I'll buy dinner, spring for the coffee or drinks, whatever. I usually shoot for a lunch meeting just because it's more casual. I treat it like a flirtatious job interview. I want to know about the person, their thoughts, what their requirements are, and why they think they'd make a good sugar baby. I don't necessarily want to hear their sob story (if there is one). I wouldn't dream of giving someone money through Western Union / Moneygram. They need to put forth the effort if they want me to reciprocate. Ladies with the attitude that the DADDY needs to give them something first are living in a fantasy world (or they're being successful taking advantage of guys who are a bit too desperate and don't understand the dynamics of this type of relationship yet).

Second, I wouldn't EVER give a prospective SB a second chance to stand me up. She misses that first date, or she's more than a few minutes late (and I'd better know she's going to be late), and I'm done. Just like I'd treat it if there was a job interview. I've had strings of dead mothers, dead step-fathers, dead daughters, hospitalized loved ones, ER visit excuses. I've also had overslept, got in the shower late, was cleaning out my closet. I really don't care what the excuse is, obviously meeting wasn't important enough to you, so don't cry to me that your rent is due.

Third, there are a lot of sweet, smart, sexy young ladies that are thrilled to death with a steady, committed $600-$800 per month. They're not having to work 100 hours to get that, they generally get to have a good time, etc. If you do your best to treat them well both in public and in private, they'll respond. The idea of $6000 up front "to prove your wealth" is ludicrous in the extreme. That may be necessary if you're trying to seduce some Hollywood starlet, but a midwestern college cutie? Maybe I'm just not that desperate. I do get the occasional "$1000/ wk" type of woman, and strangely, they generally seem to be the least attractive variety. It's weird.

I know on another thread it was said that all these girls are pros, but I don't see it that way. I don't think there's anything at all wrong with a woman being attracted to a guy because he treats her nicely. As a matter of fact, I think it makes perfect sense for a college student who is focused on her school and doesn't want the drama of a "normal" relationship to seek out this kind of relationship. I think there's plenty of reasons for a young lady to be attracted to a decent looking, well kept, gentleman who takes good care of her without it making her a professional or a sex worker.

TD.

P.S. I saw Britt a couple of times a few years back, but got a real serious "stripper vibe" from here with her wanting to negotiate everything. I got a good chuckle at her, "Never done this before" spiel mentioned here. Honestly, I don't like real "meaty" girl parts, either, so I didn't find her that attractive out of her clothes.Good advice. Thank you.

Admin2
01-01-16, 18:46
First, I want to echo all the advice about never paying for a M&G. I'll buy dinner, spring for the coffee or drinks, whatever. I usually shoot for a lunch meeting just because it's more casual. I treat it like a flirtatious job interview. I want to know about the person, their thoughts, what their requirements are, and why they think they'd make a good sugar baby. I don't necessarily want to hear their sob story (if there is one). I wouldn't dream of giving someone money through Western Union / Moneygram. They need to put forth the effort if they want me to reciprocate. Ladies with the attitude that the DADDY needs to give them something first are living in a fantasy world (or they're being successful taking advantage of guys who are a bit too desperate and don't understand the dynamics of this type of relationship yet).

Second, I wouldn't EVER give a prospective SB a second chance to stand me up. She misses that first date, or she's more than a few minutes late (and I'd better know she's going to be late), and I'm done. Just like I'd treat it if there was a job interview. I've had strings of dead mothers, dead step-fathers, dead daughters, hospitalized loved ones, ER visit excuses. I've also had overslept, got in the shower late, was cleaning out my closet. I really don't care what the excuse is, obviously meeting wasn't important enough to you, so don't cry to me that your rent is due.Fuck, finally somebody that gets it.

I never thought the day would get here.

A2.

Mwdude
01-02-16, 00:33
Fuck, finally somebody that gets it.

I never thought the day would get here.

A2.Come on. It can't be helpful to call 99 pct of your users morons.

Evalder
01-02-16, 14:26
Come on. It can't be helpful to call 99 pct of your users morons.It might be helpful if it gets people to stop putting up with tardiness and no shows and to stop paying for M&Gs.

Plus nowhere was the word "morons" used or overtly implied.

Evalder
01-02-16, 14:43
Don't know if this has been shared or not (if it has I apologize for missing it), but according to several SBs I've talked to, they get a notification every single time their profile is viewed. Even if the same person has viewed it before. So if you view their profile 10 times and then message them, they will have seen that you viewed them 10 times. They will also see if you checked out their profile even if you have all your status info hidden and your account hidden.

One girl I had spoken to in the past messaged me "I see you looking at me" as I had accidentally clicked on her profile instead of the message thread. That's how I first learned that happens. Have confirmed this info since. Thought it was worth passing along.

So maybe it is a good idea to create a "Shopping" account to check out POT SBs and refresh your memory when chatting / texting.

GoodTimes007
01-10-16, 11:32
For those looking for UTR pros / semi pros.

Kinsley2015 looks very familiar from the hobby, and as a cash and dash or robbery. I could be wrong but proceed with caution unless someone else has a better memory than I and can shed some light.

Nina Love Lace real deal pro not SB but plan on spending 250-3 per plus hotel.

Katej22 real deal amature plan on 225 plus hotel and a crappy BP attitude. Looks hot, I have low tolerance for crappy replies when I'm being cordial.

For those looking for a more relationship style arrangement, here's how I have found it to finally work best.

After three months on SA and tremendous success, I'd say that the ones really worth knowing, and the best value, are those who don't sell themselves for sex. They take their time, you make them laugh, you engage in conversation about their passions and dreams, you compliment them, and they show genuine interest in you as a person. Never bring up money throughout the entire time you talk. I'm getting marketing materials made by one, paying half the price of graphic design firms, and we are sharing ideas naked in bed while working on its creation. A true SB has no problem earning her keep, appreciates mentorship in the pursuit of her dreams, and is happy with a new lingerie set from VS as a sign of affection more so than an allowance. With patience, "she" can be found, and I've found mine in 3 months, two of which involved daily conversations with her. It was a 30 minute daily investment for a lady passionate about marketing, a need I have, that has lead to a discrete relationship in the process.

It's really opened my eyes to quality versus quantity and made me rethink the entire approach on that site. Women don't like being negotiated with $$$ for sex, it's insulting to most. So when a woman does not take the time to get to know me prior to asking "how much can you give?" I let her know how equally offensive her question is to those she gets about sex.

The one unexplored avenue.

I'm curious if anyone has experience with paying a monthly allowance and how that has worked out? Pros, cons? I've used the standard line "there must be chemistry, consistency, and trust established prior to commuting to an up front monthly allowance, and I would never insult you with the idea of waiting until months end, do you have an idea that may work for both of our levels of comfort?" That has always lead to a per visit (better referred to a weekly arrangement since your seeing them only once per week anyway). There are however a select few beauties on there that do not bend from monthly. As soon as I perceive them as a scam, they tend to find a suitor. Am I missing out on a good thing, or an increased investment with less visits, more cancellations and scheduling conflicts, etc?

Jjbee62
01-11-16, 14:24
For those looking for UTR pros / semi pros.

Kinsley2015 looks very familiar from the hobby, and as a cash and dash or robbery. I could be wrong but proceed with caution unless someone else has a better memory than I and can shed some light.

Nina Love Lace real deal pro not SB but plan on spending 250-3 per plus hotel.

Katej22 real deal amature plan on 225 plus hotel and a crappy BP attitude. Looks hot, I have low tolerance for crappy replies when I'm being cordial.

For those looking for a more relationship style arrangement, here's how I have found it to finally work best.

After three months on SA and tremendous success, I'd say that the ones really worth knowing, and the best value, are those who don't sell themselves for sex. They take their time, you make them laugh, you engage in conversation about their passions and dreams, you compliment them, and they show genuine interest in you as a person. Never bring up money throughout the entire time you talk. I'm getting marketing materials made by one, paying half the price of graphic design firms, and we are sharing ideas naked in bed while working on its creation. A true SB has no problem earning her keep, appreciates mentorship in the pursuit of her dreams, and is happy with a new lingerie set from VS as a sign of affection more so than an allowance. With patience, "she" can be found, and I've found mine in 3 months, two of which involved daily conversations with her. It was a 30 minute daily investment for a lady passionate about marketing, a need I have, that has lead to a discrete relationship in the process.

It's really opened my eyes to quality versus quantity and made me rethink the entire approach on that site. Women don't like being negotiated with $$$ for sex, it's insulting to most. So when a woman does not take the time to get to know me prior to asking "how much can you give?" I let her know how equally offensive her question is to those she gets about sex.

The one unexplored avenue.

I'm curious if anyone has experience with paying a monthly allowance and how that has worked out? Pros, cons? I've used the standard line "there must be chemistry, consistency, and trust established prior to commuting to an up front monthly allowance, and I would never insult you with the idea of waiting until months end, do you have an idea that may work for both of our levels of comfort?" That has always lead to a per visit (better referred to a weekly arrangement since your seeing them only once per week anyway). There are however a select few beauties on there that do not bend from monthly. As soon as I perceive them as a scam, they tend to find a suitor. Am I missing out on a good thing, or an increased investment with less visits, more cancellations and scheduling conflicts, etc?All good stuff. My gut says to pass on anyone insisting on a monthly arrangement up front. Once that monthly allowance is established the incentive to perform is gone. All she has to concern herself with is making you happy a few days before payment is due.

Another issue are the ones who are double and triple dipping.

However, if you get a regular schedule working with one who is worth the investment, monthly might be a better arrangement.

JohnBuddy
01-12-16, 12:28
Bamabelle22 She is real and has her own place. Semi-pro. Do not over pay 2. Isles open. Play safe JB.

JaxSon07
01-13-16, 15:13
Any of you guys know "mirandie"? We got a good dialogue going and she wants to meet tomorrow. She looks like a stripper in her pics, I'm not a club regular but I thought some of you guys might recognize her.

Bfeguy
01-13-16, 19:43
Any of you guys know "mirandie"? We got a good dialogue going and she wants to meet tomorrow. She looks like a stripper in her pics, I'm not a club regular but I thought some of you guys might recognize her.I have spent time with her.

Normal drama that an ex stripper has.

KyBoyHere
01-23-16, 15:15
Definitely a little more work on the front end, but a veritable ever-changing smorgasboard of hot women of you are willing to put in the time and effort.Couldn't agree more, if any of you have yet to try this, you are truly missing out. Yes there is a $70 dollar fee to join but if you wait a bit you will get a decent discount, honestly all you probably need is one month to have enough contacts to make it worth your wild.

The savings overall is huge if you like a weekly session, I may never go back to the normal hinting after trying this, it's much more fun and your wallet goes much further. I have been pleasantly surprised thus far, in sure there is scams and bad experiences but haven't ran across that yet.

GoodTimes007
01-26-16, 07:23
Bit of Attitude and Drama. Got a GPS vibe from her.

Others I will PM you info.In response to Jenna:

Jenna apparently must have GPS (and at minimum a complete waste of time,) as she spends her time online agreeing to arrangements, then never committing to a meet and greet as she continues to seek out better offers, when one can't be found she will email back (up to weeks) later "forgetting" what our agreement was and asking for clarification. She's done this for months, now her new gig is throwing down attitude "that she's wasted enough of her time" on meet and greets that she wants guaranteed payment if she meets at all. I've noticed a growing trend of ladies expecting to be paid for a meet and greet and sure hope fellas are not doing so to secure a face to face; it's not necessary nor worth it.

In general. To those discussing meet and greets.

Treat SA like a normal dating site with monies not mentioned at all. If they try, simply say you only discuss this once you know chemistry exists, which can only be established once you have met them in person. They are in essence applying for a job, they don't get paid for interviews, nor should they be for meet and greets. I'm personally not paying until I know they look like their picture, do not bring drama or attitude, are safe and live in a decent location, and have good hygiene.

This below should go without saying.

But be careful on SA. The more popular SA gets, the more scammers it attracts. There is a growing number of "send me money through. " Wire transfer or Paypal ladies, and a spawning of "cyber, Skype, and text only" arrangement seekers surfacing. Be careful and be sure to report those to SA, the report feature does work. Just be sure to get the lady to say that this is what she wants within SAs email system and her, and her IP address will be banned. I traditionally try to get them off that site prior to discussing specifics, however I've had to adjust three things: Find out if they are wanting a face to face arrangement and if they intend to do so for the price of a drink (I don't say it that way of course,) get their number first and Google / Facebook it (using a fake fb account,) if you get a name you can google the name + "mugshots," and not showing my pictures prior to knowing for certain it's not a scam. Since doing so, I've caught two ladies scamming: one wanting a wire transfer to get her sick grandma a caregiver for "our day," the other a part of the same druggie group that previously screen shot my pictures. Be safe, for what it's worth. The moderator of this board gave me good advice with these ladies. Tel them to shut up and move on. That works if direct enough about it, also.

Dangerb
01-26-16, 11:12
If you go into settings, you can hide your activity, profile, and registration date if you want. If you hide your activity, it doesn't show up that you viewed her, if you hide your profile, they won't be able to find you without some effort.


Don't know if this has been shared or not (if it has I apologize for missing it), but according to several SBs I've talked to, they get a notification every single time their profile is viewed. Even if the same person has viewed it before. So if you view their profile 10 times and then message them, they will have seen that you viewed them 10 times. They will also see if you checked out their profile even if you have all your status info hidden and your account hidden.

One girl I had spoken to in the past messaged me "I see you looking at me" as I had accidentally clicked on her profile instead of the message thread. That's how I first learned that happens. Have confirmed this info since. Thought it was worth passing along.

So maybe it is a good idea to create a "Shopping" account to check out POT SBs and refresh your memory when chatting / texting.

Evalder
01-26-16, 11:38
If you go into settings, you can hide your activity, profile, and registration date if you want. If you hide your activity, it doesn't show up that you viewed her, if you hide your profile, they won't be able to find you without some effort.Weird. I had my activity set to hidden from the get go and it still would show the SB when I had viewed their profile. Maybe a glitch? I would still advise a shopping account anyway.

JohnBuddy
01-27-16, 12:39
Does anyone have any information on Brunettebombshell11 or Sugga74. I can provide info on others in return, please PM me. Thanks JB.

Ertonfc
01-28-16, 14:00
Does anyone have any information on Brunettebombshell11 or Sugga74. I can provide info on others in return, please PM me. Thanks JB.I know I've never posted on here before (longtime lurker) but I have talked with brunettebombshell. She told me she would need 8. Thats with a couple zeros after, naturally I laughed and proceeded to dip into the rest of the bottomless pool of fun. I can echo what the rest say about not paying, ever. Dinner / drinks is plenty and just never talk about the rest and itll work itself out.

Indy Tech
01-29-16, 14:35
Total waste of time. Not my typical sugar baby type, but she contacted me first, and I decided what the hell. She seemed really nice, but turned out to be a HUGE WASTE OF TIME. I don't want to go into all the details, but wanted to let my fellow mongers know the deal with this one.

Stay away from this one brothers, not worth the time or the drive, there are plenty of other quality babies to choose from.

JaxSon07
02-01-16, 21:35
Bamabelle22 She is real and has her own place. Semi-pro. Do not over pay 2. Isles open. Play safe JB.I'll second that. Very easy to set up. From the first message to walking in her front door was about 90 minutes. Got almost 2 hours of fun for 2.

Inndy1
02-04-16, 18:48
Anyone meet her or have ant intel. I have meet and greet tomorrow so I will see.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e57e77b31/view?conversation-inbox

BiteOfTheApple
02-04-16, 19:28
Anyone meet her or have ant intel. I have meet and greet tomorrow so I will see.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e57e77b31/view?conversation-inboxHer FB comes back in her SO name. Search her number there.

Sonic1
02-04-16, 23:21
Anyone meet her or have ant intel. I have meet and greet tomorrow so I will see.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e57e77b31/view?conversation-inboxYes, I have met her on 2 occasions. She lives on the south side of Indy. She's only 20, but she's very mature for her age. After talking to her, you won't believe she's so young. She is very cute and very friendly and easy to get along with. The first meeting was a simple meet and greet over dinner. We met again for dinner tonight. A few kisses exchanged, haven't done anything else with her. She's clean, well kept, and can hold an intelligent conversation. I think you will enjoy her company. I'm struggling with the age thing, so I haven't pressed with intimacy, so I can't help you there. Also, no details were exchanged on a possible arrangement. She doesn't press at all. Don't feel you are in competition with me as I'm leaning more towards meeting another woman I've been talking to who is in her 30's, where I am personally a little more comfortable.

P.S.: Were you the guy texting here around 8 pm tonight while I was at dinner with her?

Good Luck! I think you will be happy with what you see.

Inndy1
02-05-16, 00:18
Yes, I have met her on 2 occasions. She lives on the south side of Indy. She's only 20, but she's very mature for her age. After talking to her, you won't believe she's so young. She is very cute and very friendly and easy to get along with. The first meeting was a simple meet and greet over dinner. We met again for dinner tonight. A few kisses exchanged, haven't done anything else with her. She's clean, well kept, and can hold an intelligent conversation. I think you will enjoy her company. I'm struggling with the age thing, so I haven't pressed with intimacy, so I can't help you there. Also, no details were exchanged on a possible arrangement. She doesn't press at all. Don't feel you are in competition with me as I'm leaning more towards meeting another woman I've been talking to who is in her 30's, where I am personally a little more comfortable.

P.S.: Were you the guy texting here around 8 pm tonight while I was at dinner with her?

Good Luck! I think you will be happy with what you see.No wasn't me texting her. Thanks for everything.

Sonic1
02-05-16, 00:23
No wasn't me texting her. Thanks for everything.No problem. We are all on here to help each other out. I'm interested in how your experience goes tomorrow. Keep us posted!