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[HollywoodGuy]

The girls that favorite you on SA are rarely the ones you are going to meet or even want to meet. It's usually better to be proactive than reactive.

[FarFarAway]

The girls that favorite you on SA are rarely the ones you are going to meet or even want to meet. It's usually better to be proactive than reactive.I don't disagree. I find it useful to favorite girls I message, b / c then I can tell if they are on / have been on the site, and that helps me decide whether to give up on them or persist.

[HollywoodGuy]

Never bother searching by "Minimal" expectations. Minimal is defined as up to 1 k a month in allowance (sounds good on the face of it). But is usually defined by the girl as only 2 or 3 meetups a month (not so minimal per date).

[FarFarAway]

Today I spent my first deep, planned session in the FC with my new SB, ModelMILF. Truly, it was beyond my wildest dreams when I joined SA a short time ago. My expectations may not be as high as some of you, as I have a *truly* problematic SO. This was the best sex I've had in 20 years, which is more an indictment of those decades than anything. ModelMILF is slender but with skillfully enhanced 38 Ds, flawless skin, face absolutely a 10. Alt enough (few tattoos) to be outside my usual. Slow start moved to making out and once she was naked, she signaled for action on her kitty, which BTW is one of the cutest in my experience, with a tiny landing strip. Using several techniques, she had seemingly perpetual Os for 30-40 minutes. She downplayed it saying she is more responsive if she knows you better. I really could have spent hours there, but the clock struck and I simply did her mish, but she got very involved with switching the angles and action for her pleasure. Several more Os for her.
Another afternoon with this incredible baby. I spent a huge amount of time with my face between her legs and she has now revealed herself to be a squirter, as she promised earlier. I know there are varied opinions on this issue. I am 100% sure here it is a combo of strong orgasmic contractions and copious natural lubrication. It is hard to imagine where she has taken me compared to where I was a few weeks ago. I can see why others talk of the addiction to sugaring. I can't see not having access to her.

[Raslan]

Have been seeing this woman I met on SA since the beginning of the year. No $, she just wants sex. The problem is that I can tell she would love it if it developed into more. Never going to happen. She starts to act like a PITA GF at times, commenting, "Why were you on SA?

So I created a new handle on SA which I haven't paid to upgrade yet. Been getting a lot of hits but, without Premium, you aren't able to message. Then I see a grid showing the comparison between standard and Premium and it shows 10 free messages on standard. "Cool!" I thought. I can send messages to the ones I would really like, directing them to email or text me. Problem solved. WRONG! No matter how eloquent you message, the site switches it to "You intrigued me. Interested in an arrangement?" Then you can't read the friggin reply!

Dammit. Vaguely remember this when I first got on SA but forgot about it this time. And don't even bother trying to bury your email in the body of your profile like you can on AF. They spot it and reject it.

[DrMcNaughty]

I have been on SA for almost a year. If you have game, are a great sexual master and teacher and have a clueof what gifts to give its very easy to avoid handing over your cold hard cash. Granted I've paid for many very nice hotel rooms via hotwire, a few nice vacations, lots of great sexy skimpy clothing that turns me on haha. I have literally handed over $650 in cash, put a single temporaily homeless hot mom up for a week in a hotel and made a $200 car payment for another. I'm 48 , have had the most debauheerous sex of my life this year! I'm in great shape I look 38, very athletic and active. Work in music / fashion industries as photographer. I have been banging smoking hot petite spinners, which I prefer. Aged 18 -30. One of my regulars was an anal loving micro spinner with first name of state that has both a north and a south. Not bragging. But I laugh when I hear some of these girls gettng 10 k plus a month and don't hold a torch to the hot little sluts I've been banging! Right now I have a rotation of 4 little babes. Cheers guys!


Never bother searching by "Minimal" expectations. Minimal is defined as up to 1 k a month in allowance (sounds good on the face of it). But is usually defined by the girl as only 2 or 3 meetups a month (not so minimal per date).

[HollywoodGuy]

I have been on SA for almost a year. If you have game, are a great sexual master and teacher and have a clueof what gifts to give its very easy to avoid handing over your cold hard cash. Granted I've paid for many very nice hotel rooms via hotwire, a few nice vacations, lots of great sexy skimpy clothing that turns me on haha. I have literally handed over $650 in cash, put a single temporaily homeless hot mom up for a week in a hotel and made a $200 car payment for another. I'm 48 , have had the most debauheerous sex of my life this year! I'm in great shape I look 38, very athletic and active. Work in music / fashion industries as photographer. I have been banging smoking hot petite spinners, which I prefer. Aged 18 -30. One of my regulars was an anal loving micro spinner with first name of state that has both a north and a south. Not bragging. But I laugh when I hear some of these girls gettng 10 k plus a month and don't hold a torch to the hot little sluts I've been banging! Right now I have a rotation of 4 little babes. Cheers guys!We all work with our god given talents and our learned responses. I would never begin to compare my success with my buddy the x rockstar who banged a girl a day (including cover models) while touring this great land. (without ever spending a dime). He stopped counting when he hit girl number 2000. Or my friend who is disabled, grossly overweight and can barely stand yet manages to get some friendly MILF's to lend a helping hand. (with a little sugar to sweeten the deal). Live long and prosper.

[HollywoodGuy]

Just an FYI. Uber must be subsidizing their drivers right now. I just did a 90 minute uber pool ride for a girl for under 14 dollars. It's a good time to have a girl come over these days and semi-impress them as the last man said. I usually just ask the girl upfront if she is cool with the pool. I have never had one say "no" yet.

[HollywoodGuy]

I had changed my profile a while back stating that I was looking for very submissive girls. One of the consequences was getting hit up by a lot of curvy, thick and larger girls. Most of these girls give no hint as to that particular part of their personality in their profiles. Just an observation.

[FarFarAway]

I had changed my profile a while back stating that I was looking for very submissive girls. One of the consequences was getting hit up by a lot of curvy, thick and larger girls. Most of these girls give no hint as to that particular part of their personality in their profiles. Just an observation.Doesn't it seem likely they are not getting a lot of dates / sex b / c of their build, so they are more needy, and also for the same reason they aren't that experienced, and therefore think that a guy who is going to direct them / teach them is going to work better? Or perhaps they think if they can't offer a hot body like others, they can offer this behavior?

[FarFarAway]

Install social media / messaging apps like WhatsApp, Line, Kik, Snapchat, etc. If they give you their main phone number (and most people aren't savvy enough to use a burner app or secondary line), their account should pop up if they use these apps. Should give you more pics and sometimes useful info like their usual username. For example -- girl pops up on Kik after you save her number into your phone. Her Kik username is something like 'bellaxoxo'. You search 'bellaxoxo' on other apps like instagram, facebook, etc. And lo and behold, you find even more information and pics.

Also, reverse searching profile pics with google image search or tineye can yield results as well.

BTW Smokarz, your inbox is full.I've seen a couple of profiles recently that used photos of models pulled off the web. I messaged with one before I figured it out, and then she went silent, so don't know what she really is like. She had a private photo that is presumably her and not ridiculously off base, but still. No doubt those sorts of photos get me thinking with my little head, which is their purpose. If a photo looks too fantastic, it probably is and you should tineye it. This is a well-known BP risk, but too bad it's coming to SA.

[HollywoodGuy]

Doesn't it seem likely they are not getting a lot of dates / sex b / c of their build, so they are more needy, and also for the same reason they aren't that experienced, and therefore think that a guy who is going to direct them / teach them is going to work better? Or perhaps they think if they can't offer a hot body like others, they can offer this behavior?Actually a fair number are older. So they know what they want. Its just an observation. I haven't really analyzed it.

[HollywoodGuy]

I've seen a couple of profiles recently that used photos of models pulled off the web. I messaged with one before I figured it out, and then she went silent, so don't know what she really is like. She had a private photo that is presumably her and not ridiculously off base, but still. No doubt those sorts of photos get me thinking with my little head, which is their purpose. If a photo looks too fantastic, it probably is and you should tineye it. This is a well-known BP risk, but too bad it's coming to SA.If a girl only has model pics, I won't message her.

[HollywoodGuy]

Due to monetary constraints I am settling down to a life of only seeing my ATF twice a week and having my roommate to keep me company. So there won't be anything to report for the foreseeable future. I will continue to monitor this thread and input when it's appropriate. And good hunting out there.

[John HandCock]

Actually a fair number are older. So they know what they want. Its just an observation. I haven't really analyzed it.Dating your specific type of girl you wouldn't know that but the bigger girls are more definitely down to be turned into fuck toys. Most are flat out freaks. I'm sure there has been some type of study on it. You will find more bigger girls into the bdsm scene than the spinner types.

[Beachesnole02]

Anyone have any experience with this site? It is run by the same people as SA? Thanks.

[FarFarAway]

If you'd like a HUGE laugh, search SA for CaliGeminiGirl in Huntington Beach. It's so over the top I wonder if it's like a woman who was deactivating but didn't want to leave her info on there, so she made stuff up.

[HollywoodGuy]

Dating your specific type of girl you wouldn't know that but the bigger girls are more definitely down to be turned into fuck toys. Most are flat out freaks. I'm sure there has been some type of study on it. You will find more bigger girls into the bdsm scene than the spinner types.I guess that's why I am sticking with my ATF. And you are right. I've always kinda known that. But since my "type" is basically the opposite I just never paid attention to it.

[HollywoodGuy]

If you'd like a HUGE laugh, search SA for CaliGeminiGirl in Huntington Beach. It's so over the top I wonder if it's like a woman who was deactivating but didn't want to leave her info on there, so she made stuff up.I clicked on her profile and she sent me a message "I work at hooters costa mesa Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday night. Drop by let me know your a finalist for my sugar daddy and we'll talk".

[Galaxxxy69]

I have to ask. I live in a crappy studio, (when I say crappy, I mean crappy) my job is not glamorous at all, it would be considered blue collar. I'm 40 years old and should have a solid foundation which I still don't. Yet, I can spend 400-600 a month on girls. For other guys that are on the same boat as I am, does anything like this matter to you or the girls when you see them? What do you do in these circumstances? I want to transition seeing Pros and go for SugarBabbies instead. Who can provide me with feedback?

If you feel compelled to PM me, please do so. I greatly appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.

[HollywoodGuy]

I have to ask. I live in a crappy studio, (when I say crappy, I mean crappy) my job is not glamorous at all, it would be considered blue collar. I'm 40 years old and should have a solid foundation which I still don't. Yet, I can spend 400-600 a month on girls. For other guys that are on the same boat as I am, does anything like this matter to you or the girls when you see them? What do you do in these circumstances? I want to transition seeing Pros and go for SugarBabbies instead. Who can provide me with feedback?

If you feel compelled to PM me, please do so. I greatly appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.Go for some hot UTR's. They are going to be cuter and lower mileage than a pro. They may have pro experience in their past, but now they want to stay on the down low due to prior bad experiences as a pro. Or they just might need a few quick bucks and then move on. But in the process you will meet a real NP here and there. And all for $ a date depending on your type. I have met some awesome UTR's that were just doing it to get out of a temporary jam. And then they stop. You can usually get a full hour out of them especially the first few times or more. I just had a beginner UTR. Saw her 4 times and spent a $ including the uber each time. In this case I was the one that moved on. But she was a legit freshman at a local college living in off campus group housing. And open to kink. Well worth it.

[Galaxxxy69]

Go for some hot UTR's. They are going to be cuter and lower mileage than a pro. They may have pro experience in their past, but now they want to stay on the down low due to prior bad experiences as a pro. Or they just might need a few quick bucks and then move on. But in the process you will meet a real NP here and there. And all for $ a date depending on your type. I have met some awesome UTR's that were just doing it to get out of a temporary jam. And then they stop. You can usually get a full hour out of them especially the first few times or more. I just had a beginner UTR. Saw her 4 times and spent a $ including the uber each time. In this case I was the one that moved on. But she was a legit freshman at a local college living in off campus group housing. And open to kink. Well worth it.Thanks. I guess I'm over thinking it myself more than anything. Will give it a shot for sure.

[Raslan]

I have to ask. I live in a crappy studio, (when I say crappy, I mean crappy) my job is not glamorous at all, it would be considered blue collar. I'm 40 years old and should have a solid foundation which I still don't. Yet, I can spend 400-600 a month on girls. For other guys that are on the same boat as I am, does anything like this matter to you or the girls when you see them? What do you do in these circumstances? I want to transition seeing Pros and go for SugarBabbies instead. Who can provide me with feedback?

If you feel compelled to PM me, please do so. I greatly appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.While I'm sure the high expectation types are enamored with guys who have fancy jobs (means more cash to grab), I think most don't give a crap. As long as you can converse in somewhat coherent manner. As far as you pad goes, who cares? Being married, I never bring them home so it's only a matter of the hotel you get.

Hope that helps.

[DrMcNaughty]

Read my post from 9/13 ! Earlier this week I had sexy 21 year old Asian spinner from denver drive 7 hrs to come play for 3 days. All holes were in the field of play. I made her some excellent meals, took her to hot springs and stand up paddle boarding. Had some sexy new outfits for her and 5 new toys to play with. The second night I even added a sexy young Russian summer worker to the mix. Girl 1 is bi and wanted to play. Not a cent of cash was exchanged just a lot of body fluids.


I have to ask. I live in a crappy studio, (when I say crappy, I mean crappy) my job is not glamorous at all, it would be considered blue collar. I'm 40 years old and should have a solid foundation which I still don't. Yet, I can spend 400-600 a month on girls. For other guys that are on the same boat as I am, does anything like this matter to you or the girls when you see them? What do you do in these circumstances? I want to transition seeing Pros and go for SugarBabbies instead. Who can provide me with feedback?

If you feel compelled to PM me, please do so. I greatly appreciate all feedback.

Thanks.

[FarFarAway]

The SBs posting in our area are sometimes clueless. Many talk about wanting to travel with the SD. So how is that going to happen if we are never going to give them our real identity, and vice versa? Perhaps travel in a profile is an indicator of newbies. I have also messaged with several (including my current SB) who list cities like Newport Beach or San Clemente or Laguna Beach, but are actually in San Diego. I think they perceive there are more rich guys in Newport, or they are spreading themselves over both SD and OC by placing themselves in the middle. If the location is important to you, you need to get this squared away with her early. I didn't with my SB and was in deep before I realized what a drive it was going to be.

[HollywoodGuy]

The SBs posting in our area are sometimes clueless. Many talk about wanting to travel with the SD. So how is that going to happen if we are never going to give them our real identity, and vice versa? Perhaps travel in a profile is an indicator of newbies. I have also messaged with several (including my current SB) who list cities like Newport Beach or San Clemente or Laguna Beach, but are actually in San Diego. I think they perceive there are more rich guys in Newport, or they are spreading themselves over both SD and OC by placing themselves in the middle. If the location is important to you, you need to get this squared away with her early. I didn't with my SB and was in deep before I realized what a drive it was going to be.Some guys who do travel for work can manage it. Read the richmond thread for more info. Also girls give fake locations for many reasons. Local is always best. For me its got to be within a 20 dollar uber distance, preferably 10 or less. My driving days are over due to time constraints.

[HollywoodGuy]

Started talking and txting to a really cute 18 year old with a bangin body near my house. She straight up says she's kinky and doesn't worry too much about the sugar. But I've heard that before. Sometimes true, sometimes not. Anyway I am going to meet her as soon as possible. Got my usual Friday night date but that is it for the next however many days. So maybe Friday after the date? Or the weekend. I swear if you just hang back on that site, it will come to you.

[BeardedMan67]

Got a response from one of the girls on SA. Just my type-tall, smart, long hair, bisexual, and a little naughty. When I asked about her living arrangements, she lives with her parents and is a senior in high school!! I guess it concerns me that she lives with her parents and is in high school. I have had other 18 year olds but they have been in college. Anything I should watch out for??

I do like breaking them in and watching their expressions when they have someone with experience teaching them!

Bearded man.

[HollywoodGuy]

Got a response from one of the girls on SA. Just my type-tall, smart, long hair, bisexual, and a little naughty. When I asked about her living arrangements, she lives with her parents and is a senior in high school!! I guess it concerns me that she lives with her parents and is in high school. I have had other 18 year olds but they have been in college. Anything I should watch out for??

I do like breaking them in and watching their expressions when they have someone with experience teaching them!

Bearded man.Just get a look at that CA picture ID first.

[HollywoodGuy]

I see the self described kinky new freshman I was txting with already deleted her profile after just a few days. But when I woke up this morning she had left me a txt from late last nite that she would hmu later today. Also I see the last freshman I did the four dates with is patrolling the site daily. Sometimes you gotta move fast or they are gone. And others may have been born yesterday, but they weren't born last nite.

[FarFarAway]

There are lots of 'college' girls in the OC who go to community college, so they don't have to be Einsteins. M&G w / 21 YO HCP tonight. Smokin' hot when cleaned up in her photos, very pretty in person, full 37's. Has a thought, talkative but not too much. Sitting in my car, receptive to anything and everything I suggested. Also pretty much hyperventilating when I slid my hand up her skirt. After, several texts about how great I am, blah, blah. Can't wait for the FC, though I promised 'I'm not expecting full-on sex the first time we are alone'.

[HollywoodGuy]

There are lots of 'college' girls in the OC who go to community college, so they don't have to be Einsteins. M&G w / 21 YO HCP tonight. Smokin' hot when cleaned up in her photos, very pretty in person, full 37's. Has a thought, talkative but not too much. Sitting in my car, receptive to anything and everything I suggested. Also pretty much hyperventilating when I slid my hand up her skirt. After, several texts about how great I am, blah, blah. Can't wait for the FC, though I promised 'I'm not expecting full-on sex the first time we are alone'.Never expect, but always be ready. lol.

[Member #5257]

Hi all.

For some weird reason. I am making great progress with a couple of ladies off sa in the last few days. Never tried this approach because of the time commitment and risk. Find the escort approach easier with better way to protect personal information.

Anyhow, now I have these two ladies responded.

If you have seen either please share.

Would like to meet at least one. She says she is close to Riverside and mv. Can you please share a hotel / motel I can take her with hourly rate in the area?

If you want to pm, please do so. Anyway you can share the info pls.

Thanks for all the help on this thread.

P.

[FarFarAway]

Hi all.

For some weird reason. I am making great progress with a couple of ladies off sa in the last few days. Never tried this approach because of the time commitment and risk. Find the escort approach easier with better way to protect personal information.

Anyhow, now I have these two ladies responded.

If you have seen either please share.

Would like to meet at least one. She says she is close to Riverside and mv. Can you please share a hotel / motel I can take her with hourly rate in the area?

If you want to pm, please do so. Anyway you can share the info pls.

Thanks for all the help on this thread.

P.I don't know the women, but I just posted the exact same question on the OC Notel thread. There isn't a perfect spot to post for this info. I work out in Riverside periodically and I have several POTs on the line right now that seem almost guaranteed for a FC trip.

Someone suggested finding places by a search on hotels.com and then listing from lowest to highest price. Surprisingly, for midweek I hit the Mission Inn this way. It's one of the nicest places around and could be had for $129. That still may be too much for you. A site some people are using is hotels9to5.com, and I believe it has one property near the Ontario airport. That's a 30 min drive from Riverside / Moreno, though.

[HollywoodGuy]

As my funds have been very tight this year I let all my girls go except my ATF (and cut her allowance in half). Since I have very little to spend I figure I may as well only spend it on NP first timers the few times a month I can afford to. I came pretty close with a couple of gals in the last two months (18 & 20 year old college girls). They were fresh enough, and the 18 year old said I was only the second date she had had off the site. I have seen her four times so far (but the other one ditched me). She was awesome looking (insane body). And I have been pining away for her for about a month (as she has refused to answer my txts). Either she wasn't too high on my allowance, didn't like that I waited forever to get back to her, or after some consideration decided that since I already had an ATF and a roommate her chances of moving up the food chain were a bit dim. I may still pursue her though as NP options are always limited.

But today I had a close to perfect body sophomore (my type of course, 32B-24-34), who has only had sex with one guy in her life (her same age BF that she recently split from). It was our second date (the first was an unpaid four hour touchy feely date). Today she came over in a crop top and draw string pants with no underwear on at all. Before she came over she said she wasn't quite ready for a paid date yet and wanted to get to know me a little better first as she was curious but wanted to feel a connection before committing. But after spending 4 hours with her she decided to spend the last one in the FC. We had just finished up when my roommate unexpectedly came home early from work. She acted hurt for about 15 minutes until she ate the home cooked meal I prepared for her and calmed down.

The sophomore was very gracious to her on the way out and thought she was just acting silly. In follow up txts she assured me she would be back.

[Member #5257]

Thanks FFA. My concern is about using a cc on websites to book. That can show up on a statement etc.

Same way having to show I'd at check in is a concern. Need to rtf but I was hoping that finding a hourly would be better.

That rate at mission is great but as you say, will set high expectations for future dates. Trying to keep it low cost on hotels.


I don't know the women, but I just posted the exact same question on the OC Notel thread. There isn't a perfect spot to post for this info. I work out in Riverside periodically and I have several POTs on the line right now that seem almost guaranteed for a FC trip.

Someone suggested finding places by a search on hotels.com and then listing from lowest to highest price. Surprisingly, for midweek I hit the Mission Inn this way. It's one of the nicest places around and could be had for $129. That still may be too much for you. A site some people are using is hotels9to5.com, and I believe it has one property near the Ontario airport. That's a 30 min drive from Riverside / Moreno, though.

[FarFarAway]

Thanks FFA. My concern is about using a cc on websites to book. That can show up on a statement etc.

Same way having to show I'd at check in is a concern. Need to rtf but I was hoping that finding a hourly would be better.

That rate at mission is great but as you say, will set high expectations for future dates. Trying to keep it low cost on hotels.Roger all that. I went to the Highlights archive for the Richmond thread, and there is a lot of good info there, but several years old. I have asked F Scott if he could update. He claims that you can find a low rate at a place online, call them directly and ask for it, use a prepaid card to hold it, and then pay cash when you show up. It does not avoid the photo I'd requirement, but he says he asks then to put his 'business address' (non-existent) on the account so he can expense it. Everything else can be your monger I'd. Email, phone #, etc. That all seems pretty safe, but I agree, a real notel would be better. I have thought about posting a? On Craigslist. One of us should do it.

My first date with my baby in a beach hotel in Dana Point she still looks back on kindly, but she books us now at more economical places that are just fine with both of us. Of course, she's a MILF and mature.

[NotTom]

Hi all.

For some weird reason. I am making great progress with a couple of ladies off sa in the last few days. Never tried this approach because of the time commitment and risk. Find the escort approach easier with better way to protect personal information.

Anyhow, now I have these two ladies responded.

If you have seen either please share.

Would like to meet at least one. She says she is close to Riverside and mv. Can you please share a hotel / motel I can take her with hourly rate in the area?

If you want to pm, please do so. Anyway you can share the info pls.

Thanks for all the help on this thread.

P.I know a spot in San Bernardino that rents by the hour. It's kind of run down and the girl won't be impressed at all but it will get the job done. And it's in a quiet and safe area. Pm me if interested.

[FarFarAway]

I know a spot in San Bernardino that rents by the hour. It's kind of run down and the girl won't be impressed at all but it will get the job done. And it's in a quiet and safe area. Pm me if interested.From my posting over on the OC thread came this reply, which I believe refers to Fontana:

The majority of notels in that area would be on Foothill Blvd. Which I haven't used but I'm pretty sure would give some kind of hourly rate if asked in person. Most won't give an hourly rate over the phone but you can call and see what their nightly rate is and go with the cheapest. Google maps is your friend to see also if it looks dumpy. I usually use notels in Pomona or further east in San Bernandino / Redlands and have the girls meet me there.

If they look to dumpy or over priced. Motel 6 is usually your cheapest chain. They accept cash obviously with no card required. But remember usually all, even notels, require I'd. At Motel 6 get a room for a single person which will give you the cheapest rate. And sneak the girl in. Good luck.

[Member #5257]

Most escort I meet have in call. They have a 'safe' place to meet.

Most sa ladies I find interesting do not have a meeting location.

So I have to book hotel. Most hotels required I'd and cc. Providing my real I'd and cc create huge risk.

So I prefer hourly place that don't require I'd and will take cash.

Another problem is that the room will be vacated few hours after checking in but reservation is for the night. Don't want the pot to return to the place after I leave.

Thoughts?

[Marlowe]

Most escort I meet have in call. They have a 'safe' place to meet.

Most sa ladies I find interesting do not have a meeting location.

So I have to book hotel. Most hotels required I'd and cc. Providing my real I'd and cc create huge risk.

So I prefer hourly place that don't require I'd and will take cash.

Another problem is that the room will be vacated few hours after checking in but reservation is for the night. Don't want the pot to return to the place after I leave.

Thoughts?Most of these places now have a card key to enter the room. When you get the room, just get one key and take it with you. Tell the desk not to give a key to your room to anyone else. Problem solved.

[John HandCock]

Most of these places now have a card key to enter the room. When you get the room, just get one key and take it with you. Tell the desk not to give a key to your room to anyone else. Problem solved.That works only if your the one on record who rents it. If you put it in her name that won't work. If its a few hours rental stay full time. If its cheap overnighter don't tell them you only got it for just the time together. Let them leave then you depart 30 minutes later.

[Pinche Gringo]

I am about ready to jump back into SB's again. It has been a few years since I was active in SA and SB4. I found SA to have more civilian goals and SB4 ME seemed to have a high percentage of "working girls". What has been everyones recent experience.

Thanks.

[HollywoodGuy]

I am about ready to jump back into SB's again. It has been a few years since I was active in SA and SB4. I found SA to have more civilian goals and SB4 ME seemed to have a high percentage of "working girls". What has been everyones recent experience.

Thanks.Stick to SA, they have it all. Pro, utr, sb, np, even a few virgins.

[Pinche Gringo]

Guess the virgins are in LA / SFV. Not in the OC for sure.


Stick to SA, they have it all. Pro, utr, sb, np, even a few virgins.

[Large Ess]

Stick to SA, they have it all. Pro, utr, sb, np, even a few virgins.Hey Hollywood Man, I have been hitting a rough patch as we all do sometimes. Can't get anyone to bite for the 100. Six months ago I had lots willing to take the chance. Now, not so much. Nothing has changed on my profile and I was hoping with girls going back to school and the freshman coming in they would be up for some adventure. I don't have as much time to chat with them and perhaps that is it. I thought I remember clearly that you let them know before meeting what the gift is and it only comes with some action. Is that still the case or do you meet with them and lay it out then?

Largess.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hey Hollywood Man, I have been hitting a rough patch as we all do sometimes. Can't get anyone to bite for the 100. Six months ago I had lots willing to take the chance. Now, not so much. Nothing has changed on my profile and I was hoping with girls going back to school and the freshman coming in they would be up for some adventure. I don't have as much time to chat with them and perhaps that is it. I thought I remember clearly that you let them know before meeting what the gift is and it only comes with some action. Is that still the case or do you meet with them and lay it out then?

Largess.That still is the case. And lately I have been getting bombarded, but have no extra funds to partake. I cut loose any girl I ever saw and then there were the ones that faded away on their own. I recently did meet with a girl that said no sex on her profile. I was just bored and so I messaged her that I was ok with no sex. One thing led to another and I have seen her more than a few times. The times we had no sex there was no allowance, and the times there was sex, there was an allowance. I told her my sad story of having to stop sugaring, so she said she would even take less as she is looking for more of some kind of emotional connection. You might think she is some also ran, but she is actually good looking and has a gym body. So who the fuck knows anymore. All I know is her average visit is like 2 to 5 hours and she is a sweet and sexy 19 year old with a very dirty mind.

[FarFarAway]

I have two 20 YO nieces (in law) in college. Both pretty / smart, eminently f*able. One is hot as any baby on SA. I once walked in on her in the shower on a vacation. And struggling w / college costs. I've checked postings in her city to see if she might be on SA. The SO just asked me for ten large on her tuition. Now, I am not banging her (unfortunately), and she just cost me big time. I haven't spent that much in total on the superhot babies I've hit since joining the bowl. So, I think it's fair I keep bangin' them!

[Pinche Gringo]

She is in the LA area. Just too hard to get schedules synced. Looking to trade for ladies in the OC.

[FarFarAway]

OK, I have to post to keep this thread alive. I am working on a POT I got from CL, not a sugar site, who likely is a webcam performer, past or present. She sent me a video. Yow! I am not into that area, so I don't know how to track her down as a 'provider' like I might on HX, BP, etc. Are there any of you with expertise in this area? She has SoCal / Vegas connections, model looks (5'8', big boobs, 23 YO, blond).

[FarFarAway]

Anyone else have a hard time putting down SA? I feel like I have CDO for it (you know what that is, right? It's like Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, except it's alphabetized like it damn well ought to be). I have a new arrangement w / a hot 21 YO baby. I don't need to be on there looking at POTs that likely will never come to anything and I would have a hard time affording if they did. And yet, I am, pretty often.

When you are going full bore on it, its like a second job.

[Raslan]

Anyone else have a hard time putting down SA? I feel like I have CDO for it (you know what that is, right? It's like Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder, except it's alphabetized like it damn well ought to be). I have a new arrangement w / a hot 21 YO baby. I don't need to be on there looking at POTs that likely will never come to anything and I would have a hard time affording if they did. And yet, I am, pretty often.

When you are going full bore on it, its like a second job.Not a premium member as I'm on the side lines right now but I still get a boost every time I see an email notification!

[FarFarAway]

Anyone who is messaging w / a POT on SA who is in HB and is using a variation of a username including chrissy, you should PM me.

[DocOck]

OK, I have to post to keep this thread alive. I am working on a POT I got from CL, not a sugar site, who likely is a webcam performer, past or present. She sent me a video. Yow! I am not into that area, so I don't know how to track her down as a 'provider' like I might on HX, BP, etc. Are there any of you with expertise in this area? She has SoCal / Vegas connections, model looks (5'8', big boobs, 23 YO, blond).I can give it a shot. I'm pretty busy this weekend, but I'm also pretty good at tracking people down.

[FarFarAway]

On the recommendation of others a few weeks ago, I've been looking in odd spots for POTs. Craigslist Resumes section, where photos are included, have often revealed someone w / interests (but I haven't gotten any to M&G yet). This is an excerpt from a message I just got from one. Some interesting perspectives.

My gf's have sugar daddies. The men are nice to them. & they really enjoy the great sex. Everybody want's young pretty pussy & nice tits 2 suck on. It's got to feel so good when you shoot in there. Nice & deep. Your paying for pleasure. But you pay 4 it somehow anyway huh. LOL?? So your married. Kool. But you would like a younger girl to enjoy right??

BTW, the title of her ad was: Senior care w / young caregiver. Isn't that the definition of a sugar baby? - LOL!

[Assaholic]

On the recommendation of others a few weeks ago, I've been looking in odd spots for POTs. Craigslist Resumes section, where photos are included, have often revealed someone w / interests (but I haven't gotten any to M&G yet). This is an excerpt from a message I just got from one. Some interesting perspectives.

My gf's have sugar daddies. The men are nice to them. & they really enjoy the great sex. Everybody want's young pretty pussy & nice tits 2 suck on. It's got to feel so good when you shoot in there. Nice & deep. Your paying for pleasure. But you pay 4 it somehow anyway huh. LOL?? So your married. Kool. But you would like a younger girl to enjoy right??

BTW, the title of her ad was: Senior care w / young caregiver. Isn't that the definition of a sugar baby? - LOL!If that's verbatim, it sounds to me like a guy / pimp wrote it. I'd be surprised if a girl actually used that syntax / tone. Stay safe.

[FarFarAway]

If that's verbatim, it sounds to me like a guy / pimp wrote it. I'd be surprised if a girl actually used that syntax / tone. Stay safe.It is verbatim, and you have a good point. This is why we have our brothers to reality test everything. IDK, though. You'd think if that was the situation, she would be coming back at me with some offers, and nothing so far.

[FarFarAway]

We got to keep this thread going. So I'll step in for HWG and give a progress report.

I have a regular SB. OCHottie - on an allowance - 21 YO community college student, big tits, super pretty, very nice, fucks like a grownup. I see her Thursday afternoon. She expects champagne at the FC, but a $20 bottle satisfies her.

Yesterday I had M&G w / tiny (<5') Latina. OCSpinner - artsy / fartsy and kick-ass bod, based on private photos on SA. $ 20 for sushi. She moved home after many yrs living w / BF after he hit her. So needy, at the end of the date she's hugging on me and won't let go. Agreed to FC next week, no sugar mentioned,"I'm looking forward to learning so much from you" "I just want to make you happy physically".

Messaging w / 21 YO engaged girl (tracked down all her info from email) InlandGeek, extremely explicit flirting, etc. Just from that, has agreed to FC but wants sugar. M&G w / her tomorrow afternoon.

Messaged over the weekend w / 24 YO asian. LAspinner - very beautiful, slim and refined, had an arrangement w / a married businessman she traveled with. M&G Friday morning.

Messaged today w / 36 YO fantastic tall, slender, busty blond MILF. InlandMILF - true knockout, experienced w / 2 arrangements, meeting next week once the report I'm working on gets filed.

All this with mostly keeping my profile inactive, as I am trying to keep the regular SB from seeing it (she hasn't been on SA since we started) and cutting my risk vis-a-vis the SO. I get on, look at my favorites to see which are on the site, then message them, try to move them off to text or email. I've been busy and contacted dozens of girls on SA, and of course most don't turn out as well, but just forget those.

[Christophe1]

We got to keep this thread going. So I'll step in for HWG and give a progress report.

I have a regular SB. OCHottie - on an allowance - 21 YO community college student, big tits, super pretty, very nice, fucks like a grownup. I see her Thursday afternoon. She expects champagne at the FC, but a $20 bottle satisfies her.

Yesterday I had M&G w / tiny (<5') Latina. OCSpinner - artsy / fartsy and kick-ass bod, based on private photos on SA. $ 20 for sushi. She moved home after many yrs living w / BF after he hit her. So needy, at the end of the date she's hugging on me and won't let go. Agreed to FC next week, no sugar mentioned,"I'm looking forward to learning so much from you" "I just want to make you happy physically".

Messaging w / 21 YO engaged girl (tracked down all her info from email) InlandGeek, extremely explicit flirting, etc. Just from that, has agreed to FC but wants sugar. M&G w / her tomorrow afternoon.

Messaged over the weekend w / 24 YO asian. LAspinner - very beautiful, slim and refined, had an arrangement w / a married businessman she traveled with. M&G Friday morning.

Messaged today w / 36 YO fantastic tall, slender, busty blond MILF. InlandMILF - true knockout, experienced w / 2 arrangements, meeting next week once the report I'm working on gets filed.

All this with mostly keeping my profile inactive, as I am trying to keep the regular SB from seeing it (she hasn't been on SA since we started) and cutting my risk vis-a-vis the SO. I get on, look at my favorites to see which are on the site, then message them, try to move them off to text or email. I've been busy and contacted dozens of girls on SA, and of course most don't turn out as well, but just forget those.Way to go, yo, FarFarAway. I owe you some info. Plus, thanks for pointing out that our HG is MIA.

To HG. The moon is shining upon you. Your body will heal and you will grow strong. 💪.

Bring the Black Sisters back. FUCK ALL THE RACIST.

FUCK YOU ALL RACISTS PIGS.

Peace be with USA. All of US love 💘 Our gift.

[FarFarAway]

Way to go, yo, FarFarAway. I owe you some info. Plus, thanks for pointing out that our HG is MIA.

To HG. The moon is shining upon you. Your body will heal and you will grow strong. 💪.

Bring the Black Sisters back. FUCK ALL THE RACIST.

FUCK YOU ALL RACISTS PIGS.

Peace be with USA. All of US love 💘 Our gift.Well, if he's still the mod of this thread, he must make periodic appearances. I am not yet a full-fledged senior member and someone must approve my posts. HG taught me well and I hope sees his contribution to my success. I am guessing your last sentiments have a political bent. I try not to get too exorcised when the unexpected occurs in this arena. And I always want civility on these threads. We're all here to help each other, and sometimes to show off a little. If we can keep it to that, we'll have a successful blog.

[TheHuntsman]

I just wanted to vent and get something off my chest and I think this is the only place to do it. I currently have a gf and we've been "together" for almost two years. Our relationship is a bit complicated so we don't always get to see each other. I am not trying to justify my actions, but I am human and I do need attention both physically and emotionally more than I sometimes got from my gf. With that being said I tried out SA and met a few girls here or there. This summer I started talking to a young thick just graduated from high school 18 yr old. We only met once, because she was so busy enjoying her summer with friends and family before leaving for school. The one time we did meet up we just hung out in my car and made out and performed oral on each other. No full on sex. I figured once she left for school that would be it. She still would text me from college and say she misses me and for me to go visit her. I had no idea she would catch feelings for me so quickly. Tonight she text me and said she feels like I don't like her anymore and asked if I was talking to anyone else. I never told her I had a gf. I told her yes I was talking to someone. Figured I should finally end it because I want to make things work with my gf. I really thought once she went off to college and was going to college parties she would meet someone and start banging all types of guys. Maybe even some girls. Anyway, she went on about how I was an asshole. Which I agree with her totally. Just feeling like shit right now as I didn't mean for this to happen.

Anyone else have anything similar happen to them?

[FarFarAway]

I just wanted to vent and get something off my chest and I think this is the only place to do it. I currently have a gf and we've been "together" for almost two years. Our relationship is a bit complicated so we don't always get to see each other. I am not trying to justify my actions, but I am human and I do need attention both physically and emotionally more than I sometimes got from my gf. With that being said I tried out SA and met a few girls here or there. This summer I started talking to a young thick just graduated from high school 18 yr old. We only met once, because she was so busy enjoying her summer with friends and family before leaving for school. The one time we did meet up we just hung out in my car and made out and performed oral on each other. No full on sex. I figured once she left for school that would be it. She still would text me from college and say she misses me and for me to go visit her. I had no idea she would catch feelings for me so quickly. Tonight she text me and said she feels like I don't like her anymore and asked if I was talking to anyone else. I never told her I had a gf. I told her yes I was talking to someone. Figured I should finally end it because I want to make things work with my gf. I really thought once she went off to college and was going to college parties she would meet someone and start banging all types of guys. Maybe even some girls. Anyway, she went on about how I was an asshole. Which I agree with her totally. Just feeling like shit right now as I didn't mean for this to happen.

Anyone else have anything similar happen to them?One of our bowl brothers was away from the bowl for a few years and came back w / a vengeance, w / a post titled 'I am going straight to hell' . I've heard much worse, and I have had much worse done to me in the bowl (rip offs / rinses of multiples of hundreds). I am pretty much a nice guy in civi life and try to have a conscience in my bowl activities, and it sounds like you do too. I don't think you did any lasting damage to this chick. She is a teen after all. No worse than dating others her age. I'd forget about it. But, also be aware this kind of shit happens when dating this demographic. I am 60's and haven't dated a teen yet, but done several 20's. I am often looking at the 30 and 40's girls on SA and have had an arrangement w / one MILF. Much less drama.

[FarFarAway]

Well, if he's still the mod of this thread, he must make periodic appearances. I am not yet a full-fledged senior member and someone must approve my posts. HG taught me well and I hope sees his contribution to my success. I am guessing your last sentiments have a political bent. I try not to get too exorcised when the unexpected occurs in this arena. And I always want civility on these threads. We're all here to help each other, and sometimes to show off a little. If we can keep it to that, we'll have a successful blog.I just want to make note that the moderation of this thread has been taken over by Admin. Our brother HollywoodGuy seems to be AWOL, which we should all hope is a temporary event based not on any unfortunate experiences in the bowl. No SD on here is perfect, but HWG has made significant contributions to many who read these threads, including myself.

Do you know that I have always been a moderator of this thread?

Guys who start threads have limited moderation privileges (they can delete posts) but we always have full privileges on every thread.

A2

[SupDaddy]

It took me several months and a lot of failed attempts, but I finally scored a beauty. 21 year old, blonde, good curves, senior in college. Smart, nice, willing to please in bed. It's costing me though. Allowance is $$$ . She lives an hour away so I see her only 2 or 3 times a month. She doesn't mind spending the night with me so it's worth it to me. Also she works hard at school and her job so I don't mind helping her to finish school. She texts me few times each week asking me how I am, but doesn't get clingy. We had a great time in the FC last meeting, followed by a nice shower together. I asked her to go down on me and she said she didn't think she was too good, but I encouraged her and she did great. Nothing sweeter than to see that beautiful face looking up at me, water dripping over us, and she giving it her best. Going to spend tonight with her!

Keep at it brothers. It's work but you will find what you want. Thanks HG for the encouragement. Here are the results.

[FarFarAway]

I just want to make note that the moderation of this thread has been taken over by Admin. Our brother HollywoodGuy seems to be AWOL, which we should all hope is a temporary event based not on any unfortunate experiences in the bowl. No SD on here is perfect, but HWG has made significant contributions to many who read these threads, including myself.

Do you know that I have always been a moderator of this thread?

Guys who start threads have limited moderation privileges (they can delete posts) but we always have full privileges on every thread.

A2I do now, so thanks for your yeoman contributions, A2.

[John HandCock]

I just wanted to vent and get something off my chest and I think this is the only place to do it. I currently have a gf and we've been "together" for almost two years. Our relationship is a bit complicated so we don't always get to see each other. I am not trying to justify my actions, but I am human and I do need attention both physically and emotionally more than I sometimes got from my gf. With that being said I tried out SA and met a few girls here or there. This summer I started talking to a young thick just graduated from high school 18 yr old. We only met once, because she was so busy enjoying her summer with friends and family before leaving for school. The one time we did meet up we just hung out in my car and made out and performed oral on each other. No full on sex. I figured once she left for school that would be it. She still would text me from college and say she misses me and for me to go visit her. I had no idea she would catch feelings for me so quickly. Tonight she text me and said she feels like I don't like her anymore and asked if I was talking to anyone else. I never told her I had a gf. I told her yes I was talking to someone. Figured I should finally end it because I want to make things work with my gf. I really thought once she went off to college and was going to college parties she would meet someone and start banging all types of guys. Maybe even some girls. Anyway, she went on about how I was an asshole. Which I agree with her totally. Just feeling like shit right now as I didn't mean for this to happen.

Anyone else have anything similar happen to them?Nope that's a first. Alot of info missing but for a one time car date seems rather extreme. You left out what the arrangement was, did she have the impression you was going to help once she got to school, that she was going to be exclusive. Lots of info missing but sounds like a girl who was expecting more than she got. Rather extreme for a one time car date.

[Christophe1]

Well, if he's still the mod of this thread, he must make periodic appearances. I am not yet a full-fledged senior member and someone must approve my posts. HG taught me well and I hope sees his contribution to my success. I am guessing your last sentiments have a political bent. I try not to get too exorcised when the unexpected occurs in this arena. And I always want civility on these threads. We're all here to help each other, and sometimes to show off a little. If we can keep it to that, we'll have a successful blog.LOL. Yes my passion was boiling. I liked them both.

If you use WeChat. Make a minimum a minimum of two accounts. If you are good looking it is pretty easy. Chinese women like exotic- tall, good curly hair, and bushy eye-lashes. One account is to filter out the scams or to filter out what the wechater is about.

This takes time. Sometime FC in 1 day or at worst, one week. I personally like the high quality of women that are coming here to LA from Asia.

Amazing women. When I meet the right one,... each day is getting closer, I will quit this with a quickness.

I just turned 40 and never have been married.

FFA. You are a good guy.

[TheHuntsman]

Mr John Hancock, there was no exchange of money. I think you're right that she wanted more as in a relationship. I understand she is young and it's easy for young girls to get feelings quickly. It actually made me think of this old bit from Eddie Murphy's Raw when he talks about making a girl go,"oooooh".

[FarFarAway]

We got to keep this thread going. So I'll step in for HWG and give a progress report.

I have a regular SB. OCHottie - on an allowance - 21 YO community college student, big tits, super pretty, very nice, fucks like a grownup. I see her Thursday afternoon. She expects champagne at the FC, but a $20 bottle satisfies her.

Yesterday I had M&G w / tiny (<5') Latina. OCSpinner - artsy / fartsy and kick-ass bod, based on private photos on SA. $ 20 for sushi. She moved home after many yrs living w / BF after he hit her. So needy, at the end of the date she's hugging on me and won't let go. Agreed to FC next week, no sugar mentioned,"I'm looking forward to learning so much from you" "I just want to make you happy physically".

Messaging w / 21 YO engaged girl (tracked down all her info from email) InlandGeek, extremely explicit flirting, etc. Just from that, has agreed to FC but wants sugar. M&G w / her tomorrow afternoon.

Messaged over the weekend w / 24 YO asian. LAspinner - very beautiful, slim and refined, had an arrangement w / a married businessman she traveled with. M&G Friday morning.

Messaged today w / 36 YO fantastic tall, slender, busty blond MILF. InlandMILF - true knockout, experienced w / 2 arrangements, meeting next week once the report I'm working on gets filed.
.Update. The ups and downs of the bowl. OCHottie is making some odd noises about when she gets her allowance. Very impersonal. Other problems too, not suitable for the Forum. OCSpinner was supposed to go to the FC yesterday, a no show. InlandGeek. Set M&G twice, both times excuses within an hour before why she couldn't. Cold feet. LAspinner. After agreeing to meet in OC, expected me to get to near her work in Beverly Hills at 5 pm Friday for M&G. No. InlandMILF. M&G complete, great person, stable / reliable, wanted a lot, negotiated down to my usual, also offered to host (but is a half hour drive out of my usual zone. Tradeoff - risk of exposure vs. Cost of room).

M&Gs. Wednesday morning w / SouthernMILF (25), Friday morning w / MILFlatina (21), Friday afternoon w / HOTcoed (20).

[Tipisil]

Update. The ups and downs of the bowl. OCHottie is making some odd noises about when she gets her allowance. Very impersonal. Other problems too, not suitable for the Forum. OCSpinner was supposed to go to the FC yesterday, a no show. InlandGeek. Set M&G twice, both times excuses within an hour before why she couldn't. Cold feet. LAspinner. After agreeing to meet in OC, expected me to get to near her work in Beverly Hills at 5 pm Friday for M&G. No. InlandMILF. M&G complete, great person, stable / reliable, wanted a lot, negotiated down to my usual, also offered to host (but is a half hour drive out of my usual zone. Tradeoff - risk of exposure vs. Cost of room).

M&Gs. Wednesday morning w / SouthernMILF (25), Friday morning w / MILFlatina (21), Friday afternoon w / HOTcoed (20).Thanks for that update: I ended my first month on SA with two deeds done with one MILF close to my work. I am set to meet another married woman next week. Tomorrow I have a M&G with a 24 or 25 year old hippie girl.

Last week I was supposed to meet with a 23 year old college student nanny but she was a total no show.

[Leche]

Thanks for that update: I ended my first month on SA with two deeds done with one MILF close to my work. I am set to meet another married woman next week. Tomorrow I have a M&G with a 24 or 25 year old hippie girl.

Last week I was supposed to meet with a 23 year old college student nanny but she was a total no show.Is you hippie girl Korean and located in west LA?

[FarFarAway]

I initially contacted this 20 YO girl from SA but she took her profile down long ago. It took probably a month of intermittent messaging to get her to meet. A sophomore science major, pretty introverted. I only got a photo this week. Petite, beautiful lips, verified as HOT by JoyDrop. She shows up at a sports bar (a victory in itself. A no-show was completely possible) and proceeds to inhale the food I had ordered for us. I know 'starving student', but geez. Nice general conversations about school, family, home, etc. At one point I ventured into the topic 'how did you learn about arrangements?' and was met w / stony silence. Oops, good time to hit the men's room. Changed the topic on return and things became more relaxed. After a very token gift card on the way out, she did email afterward thanking me. I think this one is going to be a long-term project.

[SupDaddy]

I initially contacted this 20 YO girl from SA but she took her profile down long ago. It took probably a month of intermittent messaging to get her to meet. A sophomore science major, pretty introverted. I only got a photo this week. Petite, beautiful lips, verified as HOT by JoyDrop.t.That's interesting how you approach it as a long-term project. I've found the same. I think my batting average from meet and greets to actual arrangement is something like. 200, one out of five. What have you found works for you in finally succeeding with long-term projects? I've actually been working on this 21 yo AA hottie for several months. One meet and greet that went well then she vanished for 2 mos. Then we started talking again the last few weeks. She agreed to drive to me yesterday and then flaked.

[FarFarAway]

That's interesting how you approach it as a long-term project. I've found the same. I think my batting average from meet and greets to actual arrangement is something like. 200, one out of five. What have you found works for you in finally succeeding with long-term projects? I've actually been working on this 21 yo AA hottie for several months. One meet and greet that went well then she vanished for 2 mos. Then we started talking again the last few weeks. She agreed to drive to me yesterday and then flaked.Hey, I'm no expert. I had a similar coed in the same town but different school. Intermittent messages over months following an initial meet. Then, one day out of the blue, she contacts me and says she wants to book the FC for us, and of course we should talk about allowance. We do a phone call and it is clear she wants 500. This is a pudgy girl w / a pretty face who has never had an arrangement and surely had little real sexual experience. I listen intently to HWG's advice (he's lurking here of course but rarely posts anymore) about what girls can be had for, and different scales in different towns. This girl on his scale in an inland county was like 150 max. HWG gave me shit (PM) for the allowance I gave my first SB that was around the coed's ask. ModelMILF was truly incredible, though. Anyway, I told the POT that I'd be expecting a Playboy model for that kind of scratch, and obviously this was going nowhere.

I sent last night's POT a message laying out the parameters (and even referred to my earlier experience) and saying the expectation #s on SA were inflated and no one was really getting that (especially if they are a clueless 20 YO). I draw no conclusion from the silence so far, but if it persists I'll be sure I've run her off. Good, actually, b / c when they are this clueless they truly are time-wasters.

[BlackBone]

This one look familiar to anyone? Not much of a SB but her face looks as if I seen her somewhere before. BP or CL. Not sure.

SA LINK (https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7d101026-fed4-2bb8-dde5-6267a1144c9b)

[John HandCock]

I initially contacted this 20 YO girl from SA but she took her profile down long ago. It took probably a month of intermittent messaging to get her to meet. A sophomore science major, pretty introverted. I only got a photo this week. Petite, beautiful lips, verified as HOT by JoyDrop. She shows up at a sports bar (a victory in itself. A no-show was completely possible) and proceeds to inhale the food I had ordered for us. I know 'starving student', but geez. Nice general conversations about school, family, home, etc. At one point I ventured into the topic 'how did you learn about arrangements?' and was met w / stony silence. Oops, good time to hit the men's room. Changed the topic on return and things became more relaxed. After a very token gift card on the way out, she did email afterward thanking me. I think this one is going to be a long-term project.She got a free meal and a gift. Women know within a very short time if they are going to the fc with you. If you don't lock up an agreement at the end of the m / g most usually its not going to happen until they go through all other options. You probably can get another dinner and give her gift meet. When things go silent and awkward its best to move on.

[FarFarAway]

She got a free meal and a gift. Women know within a very short time if they are going to the fc with you. If you don't lock up an agreement at the end of the m / g most usually its not going to happen until they go through all other options. You probably can get another dinner and give her gift meet. When things go silent and awkward its best to move on.No argument that she is a fallow field. I did respond w / a little more email exchange w / her, but won't initiate anything. I have too much else on my plate. Was in the FC w / my regular baby yesterday, have M&G w / super submissive ('know my place') single mom this morning and a HOT MILF this afternoon, FC tomorrow w / latina spinner, and then I have to spend 3 days w / the family, no text / email / SA.

[FarFarAway]

No argument that she is a fallow field. I did respond w / a little more email exchange w / her, but won't initiate anything. I have too much else on my plate. Was in the FC w / my regular baby yesterday, have M&G w / super submissive ('know my place') single mom this morning and a HOT MILF this afternoon, FC tomorrow w / latina spinner, and then I have to spend 3 days w / the family, no text / email / SA.OMFG. What a day. The first MNG was fine. She's very alt, lots of tats, pierced tongue, tragic life story, claims not to have had sex in 8 months, and only been w / 6 men total. Great sloppy kisses (tongue stud was interesting), wanted to fuck right there in the Sbux parking lot. I had no time but clearly could have the FC. Her text: ('you'll be inside me soon'.

The MILF as a person was beyond my wildest. Go-getter, doing zillions of interesting things, bright, private pix show incredibly fit, she'll email 'better', busty, can't tell if fakes. In bad marriage (no respect for hubby), likely to leave him eventually. Hasn't had sex outside her marriage (16 yrs); I know, but I believe her. At a supernice place, walked to a secluded spot and made out like teenagers. Says she's submissive and began to define, but then I grabbed her hair and she smiled. Will I go to hell if I take her to the hotel I booked for my out of town Thanksgiving guests and partake before they get here?

[DocOck]

Will I go to hell if I take her to the hotel I booked for my out of town Thanksgiving guests and partake before they get here?Maybe, but the devil will high five you on your way in. Sounds like you're having a great time in general, from suicide girl to MILF!

[John HandCock]

No argument that she is a fallow field. I did respond w / a little more email exchange w / her, but won't initiate anything. I have too much else on my plate. Was in the FC w / my regular baby yesterday, have M&G w / super submissive ('know my place') single mom this morning and a HOT MILF this afternoon, FC tomorrow w / latina spinner, and then I have to spend 3 days w / the family, no text / email / SA.Cool, nice story. Post some links to these girls.

[FarFarAway]

Cool, nice story. Post some links to these girls.Thanks; I'm a little bit cautious about putting their profiles out there directly, as it could get back to them that I did so, spoiling my FC chances. There's also the matter of my having a SO, which makes me even more cautious. You never want to give any baby a chance / reason to look at your body of posts, figure stuff out about you, etc. HWG used to post pics all the time on this thread, but JZLizard says it's a no-no for married guys. However, in this case, I'll give some bread crumbs. Loma Linda Ca, and the name includes Katie. The MILF, as I have posted on Richmond, was busted by her SO following our MNG and has understandably deactivated her profile. I was a bit nervous he could track me down at my hotel checkin today, but all was well. I think I am out of the woods for the moment w / her, and I can attend to the two 19 YOs who contacted me (well, responded) on SA today.

My family has a tradition of going around the dinner table at Thanksgiving, w / each person saying what they are thankful for. I had decided after the election I was going to go with the US Constitution this year, but god knows I could just as easily say SA, but somehow don't think the SO's family would appreciate it.

[Large Ess]

I have focusing on the newest setting on SA and having a lot of interest. I have two certainties, its just a matter of timing. One was supposed to come to my place last Sat but she injured herself terribly. We have been chatting every day and have had phone sex and skype sex. I find if you get them to come over the phone, they are pretty much ready to do anything. I also never pressure but do stick to HG's creedo of no play no pay. I have also stuck with the amount which I have been successful with so far but have had a lot of rejections as well. I had been seeing a single SB for about six months but her family obligations make for too large a gap in time. I told her that and she was cool with it. Here is the current batch. Most are larger but I like busty women and I have found larger women are great in bed. I do have a real hankering for a blonde blue eyed spinner but I am actually more particular about that look and I haven't found anyone one that really does it for me on HX where is where I would go for that, because on SE the caucasian woman always want a lot more. Goofed up on the numbers, its late but hopefully one can follow.

#1 Incredibly sweet and incredibly sexual. Has had a number of threesomes and wants to try bondage. Hopefully we will see each other this weekend.

#2 Far away but willing to take the train in. Have been speaking to her daily and she is primed. Probably not FC the first meet but just a matter of time.

#4 wants to have a threesome and #1 is up for it but we have to meet first.

# 5 tiny and not good looking but wants to fuck badly. It would be nice to come at her from behind. Nice to play with a spinner.

#6 lives out in the desert and I was trying to get some action while I was out there. Would have fooled around but timing didn't happen.

#7 Agreed to FC but I quoted too high. Not bad but I realized when she agreed I could have gone lower! LOL Looking forward to hooking up with her.

#8 this one pushing to meet. I think has already agreed to the support number.
#3 gorgeous as you can see and wanted too much. I got her down to half with is still double what I hold as my offer, so not certain.

[FarFarAway]

For the holiday weekend I took a family group including the SO to the racetrack. That is also where I took my first baby on our second date. ModelMILF's very striking, w / a big back / shoulder tattoo, slim and busty, and dresses to impress, so you can't not notice her. We get to our tables yesterday and who should be the waitress but the same gal I had when there w / ModelMILF. I strained to see if there was any recognition of me in her eyes, and grabbed a benjie from my betting stake just in case I needed to take her aside and remind her she didn't remember me. My guts churned, but luckily, she never betrayed any threat to life as I know it. She's likely seen this before. Whew!

Hot damn! here's something to be thankful for. I've made the cut and am now an official senior member. It's great to be in the club. Thanks, A2.

[DocOck]

For the holiday weekend I took a family group including the SO to the racetrack. That is also where I took my first baby on our second date. ModelMILF's very striking, w / a big back / shoulder tattoo, slim and busty, and dresses to impress, so you can't not notice her. We get to our tables yesterday and who should be the waitress but the same gal I had when there w / ModelMILF. I strained to see if there was any recognition of me in her eyes, and grabbed a benjie from my betting stake just in case I needed to take her aside and remind her she didn't remember me. My guts churned, but luckily, she never betrayed any threat to life as I know it. She's likely seen this before. Whew!

Hot damn! here's something to be thankful for. I've made the cut and am now an official senior member. It's great to be in the club. Thanks, A2.Congrats on both counts!

[FarFarAway]

Went to the FC w / OCspinner last afternoon, the tiny 23 YO Latina. Her pix looked great on SA, but the body was just OK. Tits not as nice as I'd envisioned. However, a pussy to dream about. I've always had a hard-on for some I've seen in porn pix w / very full (but not grotesque) lips. Something to really sink your lips / tongue into. Well, that was her, in spades. Pretty much the minute I walked into the room she was kissing me, got me on the bed, got on top, and started humping / grinding me, moanin' like she's coming. I asked her how long it had been and she said 2 months. We basically kissed nonstop, eventually get our clothes off, as soon as I started sucking on her tits she really went off. I asked her how she got herself off, she showed me, and then I made her come that way. I let her blow me and she was just going wild, I had to get her to stop otherwise I would have popped. Eventually I got to eating her and again, rolling orgasms, one after another. She's begging me 'my pussy wants your dick, daddy', so I suit up. Though she's tiny, she's not that tight and hugely wet. Fucking her wasn't all that. She texts today 'had so much fun'.

[BigBadNut]

Do you pay for the sites with a prepaid card? Trying to keep totally anonomous. Need to have a few basic rules. Separate cell phone? Etc. Feel free to BBq me here or PM!

[FarFarAway]

Do you pay for the sites with a prepaid card? Trying to keep totally anonomous. Need to have a few basic rules. Separate cell phone? Etc. Feel free to BBq me here or PM!You have to go read all the Highlights on the Richmond, VA thread, essentially the national site for SDs.

[Zman429]

Do you pay for the sites with a prepaid card? Trying to keep totally anonomous. Need to have a few basic rules. Separate cell phone? Etc. Feel free to BBq me here or PM!Prepaid card or debit card with a changable limit is always a good idea. SA doesn't auto renew so you can use a regular cc with them. I use google voice but a separate phone or other phone app is a good idea.

[DrMcNaughty]

Good times! Are you going to hit it again?


Went to the FC w / OCspinner last afternoon, the tiny 23 YO Latina. Her pix looked great on SA, but the body was just OK. Tits not as nice as I'd envisioned. However, a pussy to dream about. I've always had a hard-on for some I've seen in porn pix w / very full (but not grotesque) lips. Something to really sink your lips / tongue into. Well, that was her, in spades. Pretty much the minute I walked into the room she was kissing me, got me on the bed, got on top, and started humping / grinding me, moanin' like she's coming. I asked her how long it had been and she said 2 months. We basically kissed nonstop, eventually get our clothes off, as soon as I started sucking on her tits she really went off. I asked her how she got herself off, she showed me, and then I made her come that way. I let her blow me and she was just going wild, I had to get her to stop otherwise I would have popped. Eventually I got to eating her and again, rolling orgasms, one after another. She's begging me 'my pussy wants your dick, daddy', so I suit up. Though she's tiny, she's not that tight and hugely wet. Fucking her wasn't all that. She texts today 'had so much fun'.

[John HandCock]

Do you pay for the sites with a prepaid card? Trying to keep totally anonomous. Need to have a few basic rules. Separate cell phone? Etc. Feel free to BBq me here or PM!My position on this is if you play sooner or later your going to be caught if you have a so. Unless th SO is completely stupid or just doesn't care your going to get caught. If you have done this for awhile then what's worked for you will work here. You can do all the secret squirrel, overboard CIA crap you want but seems overkill especially if your out parading them around in public. Its not rocket science.

[FarFarAway]

My position on this is if you play sooner or later your going to be caught if you have a so. Unless th SO is completely stupid or just doesn't care your going to get caught. If you have done this for awhile then what's worked for you will work here. You can do all the secret squirrel, overboard CIA crap you want but seems overkill especially if your out parading them around in public. Its not rocket science.My thought on this is that it's like anything. I know of people who have been mongers for years / decades w / o their SOs finding out. If you have the mindset to keep that hidden it will serve you well in the bowl. I know of guys who have been SDs for years (1-2 w / one SB) and just studs (talented at picking up / out chix to fuck). I think the key is attention to detail. If you have that, in all aspects of your life, you have a hope to keep safe. If you're a 'close is good enough' type, yes, you are going to mess up and get caught.

[John HandCock]

My thought on this is that it's like anything. I know of people who have been mongers for years / decades w / o their SOs finding out. If you have the mindset to keep that hidden it will serve you well in the bowl. I know of guys who have been SDs for years (1-2 w / one SB) and just studs (talented at picking up / out chix to fuck). I think the key is attention to detail. If you have that, in all aspects of your life, you have a hope to keep safe. If you're a 'close is good enough' type, yes, you are going to mess up and get caught.So how does parading one around in public not comprise all of ones secret squirrel tactics. I'll use your story of the track incident as an example. As far as the mongers who have done it for years I stand by the statement that the so is stupid or just doesn't care. Stupid is something that can't be fixed and if she doesn't care its because she has her own thing on the side or she doesn't want to mess up her economic situation as long as she isn't seeing you being busted on the nightly news and becoming an embarrassment to the family.

[FarFarAway]

So how does parading one around in public not comprise all of ones secret squirrel tactics. I'll use your story of the track incident as an example. As far as the mongers who have done it for years I stand by the statement that the so is stupid or just doesn't care. Stupid is something that can't be fixed and if she doesn't care its because she has her own thing on the side or she doesn't want to mess up her economic situation as long as she isn't seeing you being busted on the nightly news and becoming an embarrassment to the family.I can think of 3 cases of people in the bowl discovered by their SOs recently, including that MILF I MNGed w /, and in all 3, it was a simple screw-up, not a complicated one, that did them in. Leaving something on the electronic device. They either didn't close their browser or left a document about their bowl activities there. Don't assume that just b / c something is on a password or a fingerprint scan, the SO can't look at it. Make sure that your SO could look at any part of your devices and find nothing.

I am pretty careful about many aspects of secrecy, including my special browser. Its features that likely help me the most, though, are that it does not store cookies or history, and I don't use bookmarks (I know, it's a pain, having to type them in every time and remember your password. How does that compare to lifetime spousal support, though?) When I close the browser window, it all goes away. I keep it on a USB drive, and even if there were a file created (there isn't, I check periodically), it would go away when the drive is removed. If there were a crisis, and there were something on it, it is small enough I could destroy it with one whack (or even eat it. LOL! I have one at work that stores sensitive stuff (copies of messages on SA) that is encrypted and also easily destroyed. Some like to store that stuff in the cloud. Also a good idea. I'm not much of a techie, but I have all kinds of stuff stahsed indraft messages on my secret email. You may recall David Petraeus, former CIA director, communicated w / a mistress via an email account they shared and just kept editing the message drafts.

[FarFarAway]

On SA in Newport Beach there is a very alluring profile of a 30's hot blond, favoritepasttime, nice photos. I messaged including my email and got an email in response that I replied to. Then silence for a week or more. I got today an exact repeat of the earlier email. I don't know what this is exactly, but it isn't an actual person who wants to be a SB.

[Christophe1]

I can think of 3 cases of people in the bowl discovered by their SOs recently, including that MILF I MNGed w /, and in all 3, it was a simple screw-up, not a complicated one, that did them in. Leaving something on the electronic device. They either didn't close their browser or left a document about their bowl activities there. Don't assume that just b / c something is on a password or a fingerprint scan, the SO can't look at it. Make sure that your SO could look at any part of your devices and find nothing.

I am pretty careful about many aspects of secrecy, including my special browser. Its features that likely help me the most, though, are that it does not store cookies or history, and I don't use bookmarks (I know, it's a pain, having to type them in every time and remember your password. How does that compare to lifetime spousal support, though?) When I close the browser window, it all goes away. I keep it on a USB drive, and even if there were a file created (there isn't, I check periodically), it would go away when the drive is removed. If there were a crisis, and there were something on it, it is small enough I could destroy it with one whack (or even eat it. LOL! I have one at work that stores sensitive stuff (copies of messages on SA) that is encrypted and also easily destroyed. Some like to store that stuff in the cloud. Also a good idea. I'm not much of a techie, but I have all kinds of stuff stahsed indraft messages on my secret email. You may recall David Petraeus, former CIA director, communicated w / a mistress via an email account they shared and just kept editing the message drafts.I know this may sound very stupid, but why not be truthful and deal with the consequences?

If you are not happy with your situation, why not change it. Pay your wife off and move on, or teach her who you are and hope the SO understands.

Short story. I have a couple of dogs. All my dogs are the best (people in training) and everyone praises me for their exemplary manners. They get treated very well by everyone and some people make me stupid offers so as to buy them away. My dogs love everyone. I swear they are gifts to us. Children can't resist and the ladies oogle over them. No matter how much they like others they know I am their provider and there is a sacred trust. I can pet other dogs, cats, rabbits...etc. They can be lap dogs for others as well. At the end of the day my feet are warm and in the morning I am throwing them bones.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=x8LesTvNuaw

[Noname101]

...#3 gorgeous as you can see and wanted too much. I got her down to half with is still double what I hold as my offer, so not certain.Definitely pass on #3. Met her recently and while she's pretty down to earth and talkative, she is definitely all about getting as much without giving the least as possible. Would not recommend!

[Large Ess]

Definitely pass on #3. Met her recently and while she's pretty down to earth and talkative, she is definitely all about getting as much without giving the least as possible. Would not recommend!Thank you! A fellow monger coming through! I had tried negotiating further and she wouldn't budge, so I had moved on but ALWAYS good to get info on these women.

[BeardedMan67]

Hello All.

I am traveling to your area in Feb 2017 for just three days. I wondered if some of you might share with me some contact info for some of your past SBs. Please message me. Happy to trade names if you ever come to Ks.

Beardedman.

[Large Ess]

Anyone have luck with Asian SB's on here. They will not give me the time of day. Every other type will respond, but in my two years on this site, I don't think I have had even three bites. Any suggestions? I think the Asian women have a better sense of their monetary value but I am not certain other than my looks, which I cannot change, what I could do to make myself more attractive to them. Advice welcome.

[Livinitup]

Anyone have luck with Asian SB's on here. They will not give me the time of day. Every other type will respond, but in my two years on this site, I don't think I have had even three bites. Any suggestions? I think the Asian women have a better sense of their monetary value but I am not certain other than my looks, which I cannot change, what I could do to make myself more attractive to them. Advice welcome.If they ask for a picture, send them a picture of a stack of one hundreds. And in your profile mention your trust fund a few times.

Hey laugh all you want but it works for the Donald.

[Assaholic]

Anyone have luck with Asian SB's on here. They will not give me the time of day. Every other type will respond, but in my two years on this site, I don't think I have had even three bites. Any suggestions? I think the Asian women have a better sense of their monetary value but I am not certain other than my looks, which I cannot change, what I could do to make myself more attractive to them. Advice welcome.Me neither. I tried very ambitiously for a month. Studied the forum going back several months, polished up my profile, practiced my best game which has rarely failed me in the civi or AMP world. I didn't even make it to a single M&G (except a couple of no-shows). 95% plus didn't respond. 75% plus didn't even view my profile. I think the supply-demand curve for young, attractive Asians is not in our favor. I'm guessing MILF territory might be more fertile but that's strictly conjecture. Toward the end of my month-long experiment, I recall jumping on one new 19 or 20-ish Asian profile who I thought was very low key. Not even a face or full body pic in public or private photos and a very brief bio. This was her first or second day on the site and I thought this one should be an easy one to bag. Fortunately, she did reply. First she was skittish and said she wasn't even sure she wanted to go ahead with this, in a very friendly tone. OK, so I gave her a couple days and followed up. She then said she did decide to go ahead with the SB lifestyle, but was so overwhelmed with suitors, she wasn't even considering newish guys like me and was trying to decide from among a few other more experienced candidates. She didn't actually says this exactly, but from the tone of her response, it sounded like she had at least a couple dozen guys lined up. Probably guys with mansions, yachts, 10 k+ offers or who knows what. So at that point I decided this isn't going to work for me, or at least not via this medium. I sincerely hope your experience turns out better than mine. Happy holidays and let's all pray for a more robust student exchange program!

[Socalimp]

Maybe it's me and my lack of game compared to you guys but I have a few ASB's that I keep on rotation.

I'm a cheap arse and most of the time what I have in rotation is around $ per visit with all the bells and whistles (BBFSCIP).

The only issue is that I can't find local ones as the ones I have are at least 25 miles away.

It's funny cause I have a hard time getting a Latina SB.

Another strategy I use is finding SB thru wechat and I confirmed it works.

[DocOck]

Anyone have luck with Asian SB's on here. They will not give me the time of day. Every other type will respond, but in my two years on this site, I don't think I have had even three bites. Any suggestions? I think the Asian women have a better sense of their monetary value but I am not certain other than my looks, which I cannot change, what I could do to make myself more attractive to them. Advice welcome.Plenty of Asian girlfriends (civilians, for lack of a better term), I've even dated a few Kgirl escorts (that is, outside of business hours), but never managed to actually snag an Asian SB. I've been stood up a couple of times. I matched with one college freshman on Tinder who was looking for a SD, but she scared me off with how 'prepared' she was -- she told me that she's been wanting to try sugaring for years and did a ton of research before turning 18. Her asking price / expectations were too high for my taste. Another one turned out to be a stripper. We met at the her club and it was obvious she was using SA as a way to bring in customers.

Not a ton of white girls in my personal experience either. My actual meetups have been with mostly Latina, black, or mixed girls.

[DocOck]

So about a year ago I started talking with a cute mixed POT from out of town. I had planned on visiting her city and was looking to meet up with someone. We never ended up meeting, but stayed in touch until communication just kind of fizzled out.

Then about a month ago I got a random text from her -- she was visiting LA and wanted to meet up. Our schedules didn't allow for anything more than a couple of drinks before she had to head to the airport, but we hit it off well enough and she seemed eager to come back to see me.

Well, it finally happened earlier this week. I snagged a cheap plane ticket for her and we spent a couple of days together. Some sight seeing, dinner, drinks, the usual. The best part of having a visiting SB is that she got to stay with me, which meant lots of FC action. She is the definition of spinner -- tiny, petite body with one of the tightest pussies I've ever had the pleasure of fucking. Very reasonable allowance request coupled with a cheap plane ticket means I'm definitely going to fly her back in after the holidays.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hey there. Sorry for goin MIA. And I may go off for another couple of months after this post. Lots of financial issues. No money to party. But after so many years of doing this I got a few that only require uber fare and no sugar. I guess when you are down and out you find out who your real friends are. So I am not getting all I want by a long shot, but I am still getting a little somethin somthin. But all from girls I have posted about here in the past. So I don't see any reason to keep posting about the same girls over and over.

But just to recap.

My ATF - 27 - tall and slender and a super freak. 2 years and counting.

My X the stripper - 23 - now officially gay but will still give me HJ's because she loves me and feels sorry for me. 3 years and counting.

The new girl - 19 - loves all the freaky stuff I am teaching her that her same age BF has no clue about.

Even my x wife (as in 20 years x) said she would chip in with a BJ / HJ. Took her up on it once so far. But her home cooked meals are always welcome.

Trying to get some sympathy sex from a couple others as well, but no luck so far.

And I let my SA account expire. So please keep it going guys, and thanks.

[Marlowe]

Hey there. Sorry for goin MIA. And I may go off for another couple of months after this post. Lots of financial issues. No money to party. But after so many years of doing this I got a few that only require uber fare and no sugar. I guess when you are down and out you find out who your real friends are. So I am not getting all I want by a long shot, but I am still getting a little somethin somthin. But all from girls I have posted about here in the past. So I don't see any reason to keep posting about the same girls over and over.

But just to recap.

My ATF - 27 - tall and slender and a super freak. 2 years and counting.

My X the stripper - 23 - now officially gay but will still give me HJ's because she loves me and feels sorry for me. 3 years and counting.

The new girl - 19 - loves all the freaky stuff I am teaching her that her same age BF has no clue about.

Even my x wife (as in 20 years x) said she would chip in with a BJ / HJ. Took her up on it once so far. But her home cooked meals are always welcome.

Trying to get some sympathy sex from a couple others as well, but no luck so far.

And I let my SA account expire. So please keep it going guys, and thanks.Sorry to hear about your tough times. I am experiencing something similar, but I never got the type of action that you did, so maybe I don't miss it as much? Hoping for better luck in the coming year.

[Large Ess]

Hope things rebound for you HG. You have been a great source of info and guidance. I finally got together with my 22 year singer. Very cute face. Beautiful warm eyes. Bigger girl with huge areola which isn't my favorite but she is incredibly responsive to everything. Great kisser with nice full lips. Solid BBBJ skill that I will will be able to guide her to becoming excellent. Very nice pussy that got tremendously wet. She would squeeze me so hard that my D* would pop out! Ha! Great afternoon together and she is a insightful cultured young woman. She lives an hour away so the under was pricey but I didn't pay for anything else.

[ChrisPoontang]

Even my x wife (as in 20 years x) said she would chip in with a BJ / HJ. Took her up on it once so far. But her home cooked meals are always welcome.

Wow. Just wow.

Smh.

[HollywoodGuy]

Sorry to hear about your tough times. I am experiencing something similar, but I never got the type of action that you did, so maybe I don't miss it as much? Hoping for better luck in the coming year.Trust me I am going through withdrawal symptoms. Its worse than drugs. LOL.

[JohnnyTheWad]

Hey there. Sorry for goin MIA. And I may go off for another couple of months after this post. Lots of financial issues. No money to party. But after so many years of doing this I got a few that only require uber fare and no sugar. I guess when you are down and out you find out who your real friends are. So I am not getting all I want by a long shot, but I am still getting a little somethin somthin. But all from girls I have posted about here in the past. So I don't see any reason to keep posting about the same girls over and over.

But just to recap.

My ATF - 27 - tall and slender and a super freak. 2 years and counting.

My X the stripper - 23 - now officially gay but will still give me HJ's because she loves me and feels sorry for me. 3 years and counting.

The new girl - 19 - loves all the freaky stuff I am teaching her that her same age BF has no clue about.

Even my x wife (as in 20 years x) said she would chip in with a BJ / HJ. Took her up on it once so far. But her home cooked meals are always welcome.

Trying to get some sympathy sex from a couple others as well, but no luck so far.

And I let my SA account expire. So please keep it going guys, and thanks.HG, I hope things get better for you. You are a good dude and I appreciate the SA help you gave me earlier this year. Stay happy, all will work out. Sounds like you still have a pretty good stable LOL. And BTW. Merry Christmas! JTW.

[Tipisil]

I got one of those home cooked meals tonite. For now I,ll pass on the HJ's. Its not really creepy, but she is an older woman. LOL.

Anyway my stripper x stayed over last night. Ogle her pic while you can. I will be taking it down in a few days time.I would eat ramen rather than pass out a HJ from an older woman. Thats what I am into though, just a personal preference.

[ChrisPoontang]

Ogle her pic while you can. .Its 2016, no one is ogling that pic.

Sorry to add to your despair.

[Oswalt]

Sorry to hear of the financial tough times. Your stripper is incredible. If she needs a new income source feel free to pass along.


I got one of those home cooked meals tonite. For now I,ll pass on the HJ's. Its not really creepy, but she is an older woman. LOL.

Anyway my stripper x stayed over last night. Ogle her pic while you can. I will be taking it down in a few days time.

[HollywoodGuy]

Well since I have nothing but time and no cash. I signed up to Match dot com. I am talking to a sweet, slender 19 year old Nursing assistant my first week. She looks like my type. But of course this is civi dating at its slowest. So we are txting and getting to know each other first. Lets see if I can reel her in before I have a stroke. I could just call in a girl here or there. But like any addiction. One is too many and a thousand is never enough. So for now I am staying the course. I doubt I can last much longer. Maybe next month if I see any improvements at work I will treat myself. And thanks for the support out there.

Merry Christmas and a HNY to all.

[Marlowe]

Well since I have nothing but time and no cash. I signed up to Match dot com. I am talking to a sweet, slender 19 year old Nursing assistant my first week. She looks like my type. But of course this is civi dating at its slowest. So we are txting and getting to know each other first. Lets see if I can reel her in before I have a stroke. I could just call in a girl here or there. But like any addiction. One is too many and a thousand is never enough. So for now I am staying the course. I doubt I can last much longer. Maybe next month if I see any improvements at work I will treat myself. And thanks for the support out there.

Merry Christmas and a HNY to all.The problem I had with match.com is that you have to be a premium member to send and read messages, which was $49.95 per month which renews automatically and is nearly impossible to cancel. I got around it initially because B of A questioned the charge and I cancelled it, but I was already in gold status. About three months later they dowgraded me because they weren't getting their monthly payments. With your experience, did you find a way around these charges?

[IsaacCho80]

Due to my personal relationship status, I was retired from the hobby world but now the status has changed, no other option but treated myself to a 6 month of meaningless sex. I opened up a sa account and went hunting full force with a fully automatic ak47 and a 45 as a backup.

1st target. 19 year old Latina girl. She was young, innocent and very sweet. We made a arrangement of $200 per meet. She was very inexperienced. 36 natural ds. For $200, Her last 2 bus were her age and didn't know shit. Taught her so much sexually and she was willing to learn and please. She even went on birth control for my ass. Being with this one, it's like having sex with your new sexual gf. Been seeing her for about 1 year.

2nd target. Perfect 10 21 yrold 1/2 Latina and 1/2 German. OMG. She is perfect. 5-8", 120 lbs, nice ass, naturally d's (prefect tear shape) thin, fit. Guys, this chick is PERFECT. Agreed to $400 first meet. Met at a bar, talked for about a hour, got a room and had fun. BBBJ, sucked my balls, and covered everything. She is sweet and unbelievably hot. Second meeting on on was $600. Wage is totally worth every penny but didn't have the same connection as my first target. Only lasted 3 meetings.

3rd target. 24 year old Latina thick chick. She was at best 5 out of 10. Too big for my taste, droopy tits and big guy. Nothing to be proud of. Lives around and Hollywood. Agreed to $200 meet. Went to her apt. Gave a great BBBJ and covered up for sex. After finished, I went to bathroom and saw about 10 used condoms in the trash can. Never saw her again.

4th. Was in Virginia for business and went on sa. Met a young 25 year old Asian chick. She is married but has a worthless husband and she wants out of her marriage. Her friends recommended this site and at the right time and place, I was the guy to convince her she needs to give arrangement a shot. We met for dinner and drink. We got along very well over dinner. After dinner, we went my room and fucked all night. 4 rounds. Took a nap and had to catch a early flight back home and she had to go home to get ready for work. After she left, I realized there was never mention of money or arrangement. I called her and she said she did this for herself. Not the money or arrangement. She offered an open invitation to contact her anytime I'm in the east coast. Great times.

5th. Was horney late night and my ref girl was not available so went on sa and seemed out the dirty of the dirty. Willing to come and give a sloppy BJ. Met a 22-25 yrold whites girl from Chicago. I town visiting a friend and low on money. Offered $200 to come to my area and suck me off in her car. She agreed. Not a looker but gave me one of the best BBBJ cim I ever had. She uses this light sucking motion with her lips. Sick. But within 3 minutes.

Couple things I've learned in 6 months was to be successful on these sites, follow these 3 main steps.

1. Go fishing. To catch more fish, you need more hood and baits. Contact as many many many many girls and wait to see if you connect. The more contacts, the better odds of you getting more and better quality.

2. Don't play games. Be honest and straightforward. If you looking for 1 time arrangement, it doesn't matter but if you are wanting a long term arrangement, be honest with her and yourself financially.

The highest quality girls are not hookers on these sites. They are looking for 1 or could main daddies who will take care of them.

3. Within reason, you don't need to be rich to have fun here. I know that there are sweet girls out there just looking for a little help. I've communicated with girls who are ok with $50-$100 per meet.

[Stolper]

The problem I had with match.com is that you have to be a premium member to send and read messages, which was $49.95 per month which renews automatically and is nearly impossible to cancel. I got around it initially because B of A questioned the charge and I cancelled it, but I was already in gold status. About three months later they dowgraded me because they weren't getting their monthly payments. With your experience, did you find a way around these charges?I'm not sure why you thought it was impossible to cancel. I've cancelled Match.com numerous times and it only requires like 2 clicks. The automatic renewal is annoying though if you forget.

[FarFarAway]

Not everyone in southern California stopped sugaring for the holiday. I MnG w / a 27 YO in massage school, just laid off. 5'8', only one tat, very nice rack, been victimized by men in the bowl and out, looking for a kind soul. It's me. If only I could get away from my SO to meet w / her.

I've contacted many, many since renewing my membership, gotten many replies. Too much to fully exploit, actually. Tis the season.

[Tipisil]

Due to my personal relationship status, I was retired from the hobby world but now the status has changed, no other option but treated myself to a 6 month of meaningless sex. I opened up a sa account and went hunting full force with a fully automatic ak47 and a 45 as a backup.

1st target. 19 year old Latina girl. She was young, innocent and very sweet. We made a arrangement of $200 per meet. She was very inexperienced. 36 natural ds. For $200, Her last 2 bus were her age and didn't know shit. Taught her so much sexually and she was willing to learn and please. She even went on birth control for my ass. Being with this one, it's like having sex with your new sexual gf. Been seeing her for about 1 year.

2nd target. Perfect 10 21 yrold 1/2 Latina and 1/2 German. OMG. She is perfect. 5-8", 120 lbs, nice ass, naturally d's (prefect tear shape) thin, fit. Guys, this chick is PERFECT. Agreed to $400 first meet. Met at a bar, talked for about a hour, got a room and had fun. BBBJ, sucked my balls, and covered everything. She is sweet and unbelievably hot. Second meeting on on was $600. Wage is totally worth every penny but didn't have the same connection as my first target. Only lasted 3 meetings.

3rd target. 24 year old Latina thick chick. She was at best 5 out of 10. Too big for my taste, droopy tits and big guy. Nothing to be proud of. Lives around and Hollywood. Agreed to $200 meet. Went to her apt. Gave a great BBBJ and covered up for sex. After finished, I went to bathroom and saw about 10 used condoms in the trash can. Never saw her again.

4th. Was in Virginia for business and went on sa. Met a young 25 year old Asian chick. She is married but has a worthless husband and she wants out of her marriage. Her friends recommended this site and at the right time and place, I was the guy to convince her she needs to give arrangement a shot. We met for dinner and drink. We got along very well over dinner. After dinner, we went my room and fucked all night. 4 rounds. Took a nap and had to catch a early flight back home and she had to go home to get ready for work. After she left, I realized there was never mention of money or arrangement. I called her and she said she did this for herself. Not the money or arrangement. She offered an open invitation to contact her anytime I'm in the east coast. Great times.

5th. Was horney late night and my ref girl was not available so went on sa and seemed out the dirty of the dirty. Willing to come and give a sloppy BJ. Met a 22-25 yrold whites girl from Chicago. I town visiting a friend and low on money. Offered $200 to come to my area and suck me off in her car. She agreed. Not a looker but gave me one of the best BBBJ cim I ever had. She uses this light sucking motion with her lips. Sick. But within 3 minutes.

Couple things I've learned in 6 months was to be successful on these sites, follow these 3 main steps.

1. Go fishing. To catch more fish, you need more hood and baits. Contact as many many many many girls and wait to see if you connect. The more contacts, the better odds of you getting more and better quality.

2. Don't play games. Be honest and straightforward. If you looking for 1 time arrangement, it doesn't matter but if you are wanting a long term arrangement, be honest with her and yourself financially.

The highest quality girls are not hookers on these sites. They are looking for 1 or could main daddies who will take care of them.

3. Within reason, you don't need to be rich to have fun here. I know that there are sweet girls out there just looking for a little help. I've communicated with girls who are ok with $50-$100 per meet.Thank for those experiences. Good reading. I canceled my membership. Did a few meeting and was stood up twice. You just brush it off and move on. I would go broke if I went with many of them. Maybe when I'm older and the pension kicks in.

[FarFarAway]

I am posting this question here to get local knowledge for southern California. I blasted out a bunch of contacts on SA before Christmas and I'm getting a decent reply rate. My targets are mostly the young-ish coeds. Anyway, I am messaging w / a few and they are hitting me back w / 'Hun'. Should I immediately be on guard about this, and think this likely means they are UTRs? Some have quickly gotten to the 'how much allowance' question, which to me pretty much cinches that they are UTRs. Do I need to even go to this extent if I'm not interested in that kind of setup? Mostly, I like ongoing, regular SBs.

My yield from my blast has been incredible. I have a MNG w / a certifiable 20's model (easily located her civi pix) w / no outlandish $ expectations, several 18 YOs who are looking for adventure. It is a week I can't get away from the SO, otherwise I literally could be in continuous pursuit.

One frustration. Women who post their city close to me, and then turn out to be in a different county. Moving a city or two over I understand, they're just trying to stay under a bit of cover. We do it too. But when she lists a coastal city when in fact she lives 60 miles inland, she is clearly just posting where she judges more SDs with $ are. That one was smokin' hot too. Frustrated the hell out of me.

[HollywoodGuy]

The problem I had with match.com is that you have to be a premium member to send and read messages, which was $49.95 per month which renews automatically and is nearly impossible to cancel. I got around it initially because B of A questioned the charge and I cancelled it, but I was already in gold status. About three months later they downgraded me because they weren't getting their monthly payments. With your experience, did you find a way around these charges?It was $75 for 3 months. Doing my first M&G Monday with a 20 year old nurse. She is driving an hour + each way to see me. Won't take gas money (she said the idea of it made her feel like a hooker), and says she will stay for 4 hours. Spinner body average looks. Says she never met a guy off a dating site, has never been with anyone over 21 and never been with a white guy. We have texted for hours, many hours. She said she needs help in the skills dept. I know this isn't every guys dream, but I have always had a soft spot for the ones that want to be trained. And the training I got on SA really helped me to hone in on her. I will update if things progress.

[HollywoodGuy]

Just an interesting girl I saw online. She has white? Areolae.

[Bobb Sledd]

Just an interesting girl I saw online. She has white? Areolae.I've seen her myself, quite often actually. I'm thinking for whatever reason she's wearing pasties? Agree? Disagree?

[JohnnyTheWad]

I am posting this question here to get local knowledge for southern California. I blasted out a bunch of contacts on SA before Christmas and I'm getting a decent reply rate. My targets are mostly the young-ish coeds. Anyway, I am messaging w / a few and they are hitting me back w / 'Hun'. Should I immediately be on guard about this, and think this likely means they are UTRs? Some have quickly gotten to the 'how much allowance' question, which to me pretty much cinches that they are UTRs. Do I need to even go to this extent if I'm not interested in that kind of setup? Mostly, I like ongoing, regular SBs.

My yield from my blast has been incredible. I have a MNG w / a certifiable 20's model (easily located her civi pix) w / no outlandish $ expectations, several 18 YOs who are looking for adventure. It is a week I can't get away from the SO, otherwise I literally could be in continuous pursuit.

One frustration. Women who post their city close to me, and then turn out to be in a different county. Moving a city or two over I understand, they're just trying to stay under a bit of cover. We do it too. But when she lists a coastal city when in fact she lives 60 miles inland, she is clearly just posting where she judges more SDs with $ are. That one was smokin' hot too. Frustrated the hell out of me.Damn I wish I lived out west and only had to drive 60 miles LOL I drive 100 miles for poossy LOL. But I make a multi-day time of it when I "go on tour" LOL thanks for the feedback, I tried SA awhile back and experienced much of the other you did. Till they raised their prices.

[JustLookInSW]

I've seen her myself, quite often actually. I'm thinking for whatever reason she's wearing pasties? Agree? Disagree?Not sure about the pasties, but I think she hits the tanning bed with some kind of nipple cover. Kinda sexy weird with broken English.

[DrMcNaughty]

Why don't you just say it how it is. Quit beatin around her bare bushless Bush! You saw her while jacking off in camville haha!


Not sure about the pasties, but I think she hits the tanning bed with some kind of nipple cover. Kinda sexy weird with broken English.

[Lebruno]

I always thought Match generated more Spam compared to SA. But what I know is hearsay and I really hope that it isn't too bad. Besides since the price increase at SA I would love to have more affordable options. Hope both of your time investment is for nothing. Good luck for your M&G.


It was $75 for 3 months. Doing my first M&G Monday with a 20 year old nurse. She is driving an hour + each way to see me. Won't take gas money (she said the idea of it made her feel like a hooker), and says she will stay for 4 hours. Spinner body average looks. Says she never met a guy off a dating site, has never been with anyone over 21 and never been with a white guy. We have texted for hours, many hours. She said she needs help in the skills dept. I know this isn't every guys dream, but I have always had a soft spot for the ones that want to be trained. And the training I got on SA really helped me to hone in on her. I will update if things progress.

[FarFarAway]

I always thought Match generated more Spam compared to SA. But what I know is hearsay and I really hope that it isn't too bad. Besides since the price increase at SA I would love to have more affordable options. Hope both of your time investment is for nothing. Good luck for your M&G.I haven't had much problem w / spam on SA, but then I keep my profile hidden from searches most of the time. The only women who look at it are those who I contact. However, I recently got a reply from a woman I contacted who said she initially thought my message was spam. I guess it was too well written or not crude enough to be from the average SD. What made her realize I wasn't a catfish was that I commented on her dog, that was in one of her public photos. So, words to the wise about initial contacts. Personalize your message to her profile. This has obviously been mentioned here many times before.

[FarFarAway]

Sometimes you just get lucky. I find a local profile I like, a 26 YO latina, hot body, says she does modeling. My initial message gets no response. After 4 days, I send my follow-up that inquires generally if she is submissive (her profile said she was interested in a kinky playful daddy), and she turns on a dime. She asks for my #, we exchange a bunch of texts about meeting today. I'm thinking MNG at Sbux, but she says no, in private. Hot damn, right to the FC?! She even says she'll get the room, and no discussion of sugar. I'm on board but today's schedule doesn't allow it. I say that and she wants tomorrow, which also doesn't work, so we're going for Wednesday am. Yeah, I know, it could all not happen, but it's pretty damn interesting to consider.

[Flash911]

Sometimes you just get lucky. I find a local profile I like, a 26 YO latina, hot body, says she does modeling. My initial message gets no response. After 4 days, I send my follow-up that inquires generally if she is submissive (her profile said she was interested in a kinky playful daddy), and she turns on a dime. She asks for my #, we exchange a bunch of texts about meeting today. I'm thinking MNG at Sbux, but she says no, in private. Hot damn, right to the FC?! She even says she'll get the room, and no discussion of sugar. I'm on board but today's schedule doesn't allow it. I say that and she wants tomorrow, which also doesn't work, so we're going for Wednesday am. Yeah, I know, it could all not happen, but it's pretty damn interesting to consider.Dude be careful. Not saying it isn't all real but there's a couple of red flags. No MnG, move right to the in private and she's getting the room. You feeling me?

Good luck and report back afterward!

[DocOck]

Dude be careful. Not saying it isn't all real but there's a couple of red flags. No MnG, move right to the in private and she's getting the room. You feeling me?

Good luck and report back afterward!Yeah, I agree. Sounds a little TGTBT. If you want, PM me some of her info and I'll see if I can find out anything about her.

[FarFarAway]

Dude be careful. Not saying it isn't all real but there's a couple of red flags. No MnG, move right to the in private and she's getting the room. You feeling me?

Good luck and report back afterward!I do appreciate you guys helping me out. I just PMed her SA profile to DocOck. She sexted me today and it was a photo I could find on the web by tineye - it does look kinda like her profile pics, but they could not be found by tineye.

I'd planned to ask her to meet me in the lobby of the hotel, and then walk to the room, if I go. Yes, I was thinking it was possible that she would have her guy waiting with her in the room. To do what? I'm not going to bring anything other than the room $ I promised. Any other ideas?

[Captain Solo]

Thanks to the bros, especially Hollywood Guy, who posted good infos on SA.

I signed up for SA. Found a few good-looking young girls locally available for potential hook ups.

There are many ugly, bad-looking girls who think so highly of themselves, suggesting ridiculous compensations. A few are very quick to suggest meetings, anxious to make some quick money.

I have other options for good sex. Read my posts in the Tijuana thread. I also have a very beautiful and classy petite young girl locally whom I can see for $ per session. A lot of these women in SA are not that good-looking. So I will wait to see how SA go. Potentially I can hook up with girls in places where I go to do business. Would be better than scouting the streets. Hehe.

I hate to be fooled, exploited or treated unfairly. But meetings for coffee or lunch with young girls may bring different rewards than hanging out in putas bars all the time.

[FarFarAway]

I do appreciate you guys helping me out. I just PMed her SA profile to DocOck. She sexted me today and it was a photo I could find on the web by tineye - it does look kinda like her profile pics, but they could not be found by tineye.

I'd planned to ask her to meet me in the lobby of the hotel, and then walk to the room, if I go. Yes, I was thinking it was possible that she would have her guy waiting with her in the room. To do what? I'm not going to bring anything other than the room $ I promised. Any other ideas?Well, she didn't get the room; I called her on the web photo, and accused her of being a catfish. She says no. Said she was at a friend's testing wigs to wear. Hmm. I may just retreat to asking her to do this the regular way, and if not, move on. I literally am swimming in pussy. I just saw my regular 21 YO SB for the first time in a month, awesome. I have a 18 YO adventurehound dying to MnG Friday, I coffee w / a certified model tomorrow, I have several latinas near work wanting to meet. It's a playground.

[Large Ess]

Have had a few experiences in the last couple weeks to share.

Finally met up with my art major. Sweet as can be. Beautiful brown eyes and a huge set of tits. She's got a kinky side, likes them bit. Likes to be spanked which I am finding that most of these girls are into. Part of the daddy thing? I am wondering if others have experience similar predilections. Great time. Go down on her forever. She comes. She goves me head and it's fine. Looking forward to teaching her. We fuck and she is wrapping her legs around me. We spent a few hours together and I sent her on her way. Just the cost of the uber. She is also bisexual and wants to do threesomes and explore bdsm.

Out to the palm springs area where everyone seems to flake. LOL. It is interesting out there as the girls are expecting a LOT of $$ for even meeting. I guess they don't realize the competition they have from LA or Riverside. Was set up to go with a cute dyed blonde but she got sick. Opted for an older woman in her forties. We had a great conversation and she is into anal which I am not really but would like to explore with someone who really enjoys it. We get together and she is very very cool. Excellent skills fun as hell. Seeing her ass by firelight was wonderful. Price point was a little higher but not by much. She talks a bit too much about her real life but convenience and having a change of pace with a woman close to my age is worth it at this point.

Got back into town and finally met an AF 24 yr who I have talking to and chatting with for a couple months. Massive tits. Very sexy voice. She takes the train into town and I pick her up at the station. We have a very nice lunch. Nothing has been promised. She wanted to make certain that she didn't have to do anything, and I am always fine with that. But it is clear that we are going to be having sex. She is very cute and having a wonderful time. She has told me she likes it rough. We get back to my place and she informs me that it is her time of the month which she is completely bummed out about. I take it in stride because the one thing I really wanted was to do Russian with her and that is still on. Damn, this girl is passionate. Lots of excellent kissing, nibbling and biting. I pull her hair and I could almost hear her pussy getting wet. LOL. Spanking her and pushing her down and she is loving it. I don't act this way with women who don't like it. I really get turned on by what they like, which is why the woman above intrigues me with the anal. Bree goes down on me and gives me a spectacular BJ. She had asked me what I liked and remembers every little detail. Fucking her is going to be off the chart. She kneels down as I lay on the bed and titty fucks me and it's mindblowing. Nice and slow and she's sucking me as well. I come very hard and as I lay there with my eyes closed she starts licking the cum off of my cock. Incredible. Paid for her train ticket and uber. Under $.

The art major is beautiful, the older woman has incredible eyes and hair, the 24 has a smooth lovely voice and a smile that is so kind. Yes, I would love to banging a cute little hottie spinner but in the end, the question is, would it be better sex? It's not really worth it to spend the $ to find out at the moment.

[XxBullXx]

Just popping my head in to read about your guys' adventures.

Still trying to be a good boy, the lack of funds recently help.

Stay safe out there fellas.

[HollywoodGuy]

Re-upped my SA membership yesterday. Its been 3 to 4 months since I met anyone new. Match was a bust but still talking to one (the only one) that I started with. My budget is low so I am going to have to be super selective. I already reconnected with a fav UTR from the past. Will see her next week.

[HippyHippyShak]

Just staying with the number I'll assume, that's what I strive for.


Re-upped my SA membership yesterday. Its been 3 to 4 months since I met anyone new. Match was a bust but still talking to one (the only one) that I started with. My budget is low so I am going to have to be super selective. I already reconnected with a fav UTR from the past. Will see her next week.

[FarFarAway]

Re-upped my SA membership yesterday. Its been 3 to 4 months since I met anyone new. Match was a bust but still talking to one (the only one) that I started with. My budget is low so I am going to have to be super selective. I already reconnected with a fav UTR from the past. Will see her next week.Welcome back, man. Looking forward to more of your posts and vetting POTs. We're playing in different parts of the bowl, but I always learn from you.

[ChickenHawk88]

How long do you guys renew? Month? 3 ? 6? . I tried for one month while back and didn't quite pan out.

[Lotus007]

Have been premium member and started bombarding copy paste emails to those who mostly were looking for financial gain and personalized who catches eyes and looking for real dates. So far had 6 m&gs. 2 are ready to go to fc soon. Too bad I will be out of country for few weeks.

Keeping allowance at 180 max no matter how beautiful they are.

Yesterday had date with struggling actress who worked in quite a few films and was looking for daddy to sponsor her tv show. Cost dinner and movie. Got good roaming time and promised fc once back from trip.

2 more sbs ready for fc after one dinner date. Only looking for allowance till they find new job as they are in bind after loosing some in recent months.

No FC yet but bowl looks promising.

It took one month of full bombarding to get what I wanted. Passed on many utrs.

[HollywoodGuy]

How long do you guys renew? Month? 3 ? 6? . I tried for one month while back and didn't quite pan out.Six months seems to work best for me.

[HollywoodGuy]

Got the ball rolling on SA. About the same type of girls as always. For $$$ you can have basically anyone. For $$ you still have great selection. For $ you are going to have to work for it. But I already have 4 girls numbers or email. I am not in a big rush so I am going to try to find a tight newbie even if it takes a couple weeks. First sex of the new year. Did my ATF (who I am totally bored with) but for $ including the ubers it was worth it. I have just fucked her too many times.

[HippyHippyShak]

Same here, no rush, my paradyme shifted along time ago when I learned about the number etc, I've followed your method somewhat and adapted to it.


Got the ball rolling on SA. About the same type of girls as always. For $$$ you can have basically anyone. For $$ you still have great selection. For $ you are going to have to work for it. But I already have 4 girls numbers or email. I am not in a big rush so I am going to try to find a tight newbie even if it takes a couple weeks. First sex of the new year. Did my ATF (who I am totally bored with) but for $ including the ubers it was worth it. I have just fucked her too many times.

[HippyHippyShak]

Isn't it nice to reacquaint though? I don't think I've ever been uninterested, no matter how many times.


Got the ball rolling on SA. About the same type of girls as always. For $$$ you can have basically anyone. For $$ you still have great selection. For $ you are going to have to work for it. But I already have 4 girls numbers or email. I am not in a big rush so I am going to try to find a tight newbie even if it takes a couple weeks. First sex of the new year. Did my ATF (who I am totally bored with) but for $ including the ubers it was worth it. I have just fucked her too many times.

[HippyHippyShak]

Its usually her that renews, and that's ok, I have no set rules, and if she wants to reacquaint, its fine by me.


How long do you guys renew? Month? 3 ? 6? . I tried for one month while back and didn't quite pan out.

[HollywoodGuy]

Isn't it nice to reacquaint though? I don't think I've ever been uninterested, no matter how many times.I don't really like re-acquainting. Its time for a change. Like the song says "it's never as good as the first time". Sad but true. Its like chasing the high. Better to just find a new high.

[Venator]

Happy New Year folks! So a new year and starting off with a new POT but we'll see how that goes, 19 yo started college all the hoopla. Chatting up another one that is absolutely a submissive personality so that won't be difficult to "nail" down, 23 yo on a break from University needs a little spending cash. Still working on a fine as wine little spinner who's working to change careers, 28 and definitely a dime in my book. I got to enjoy a couple of spinners last year and unfortunately I've developed a taste for these tiny beauties. First world man problems. LOL!

[FarFarAway]

What has been people's experience with these? I am messaging w / two right now. One lists dancer in her profile and specifically discusses it w / me. She has an 'open relationship'. I am messaging w / another POT, and via intelligence I find her FB page, which says she started work at the Spearmint Rhino last year. Both are 20's spinners, lots of hot photos.

[DocOck]

What has been people's experience with these? I am messaging w / two right now. One lists dancer in her profile and specifically discusses it w / me. She has an 'open relationship'. I am messaging w / another POT, and via intelligence I find her FB page, which says she started work at the Spearmint Rhino last year. Both are 20's spinners, lots of hot photos.My first experience with a stripper POT: messaged a really cute Asian stripper off SA. She told me that she was probably deleting her account and giving up on sugaring, but gave me her phone number. She started sending me selfie nudes while she was on break at the club and then would complain at how slow it was over there. Like an idiot, I went over there a couple of times because I wanted to see her in person (super hot), show her I had money to throw around, and get a hands on preview of that body. Lap dances were great and she seemed to be very sweet. A few times we'd agree to meet for dinner or drinks but then she would cancel at the last minute. Once I stopped going to see her at the club, she stopped texting me or answering my texts. The other stripper POTs have been similar -- if I don't show any interest in going to the club, they don't show any interest in me.

Every case is different, but remember that the job of a (normal) stripper is to seduce you, take your money, and leave you with a hard on. I think if they insist on meeting at their club, they're probably just looking for new regular clients. This has happened to me a few times. I'd make sure to meet them for dinner / drinks / coffee like any other POT in order to make sure they're legitimately interested in a sugar relationship and not a new client. It also removes some of imbalance inherent in seeing them at their club, since it's their turf.

[HollywoodGuy]

I spent a good part of the weekend reviewing the girls on SA. I got to chat with about a dozen or so. I have my heart set on this one for now. If her story is legit, (I found her IG and an old OK cupid account) she would be the one. 21, 5.2, clean lifestyle, same age BF, works full time, no tats. Just needs a little help that he can't provide.

[John HandCock]

What has been people's experience with these? I am messaging w / two right now. One lists dancer in her profile and specifically discusses it w / me. She has an 'open relationship'. I am messaging w / another POT, and via intelligence I find her FB page, which says she started work at the Spearmint Rhino last year. Both are 20's spinners, lots of hot photos.Most have crazy money thrown at them in the club and expect that from a sd. They also work the club angle.

[DavidTheSancho]

I miss living in Socal, so much more to choose from compared to where I am now in the Bay Area. Girls on SA have ridiculous expectations here, yet, I have had two very memorable experiences. Met a girl who had just moved from LA and was looking for someone to cover her living expenses. Our second date happened to be on her birthday and she gave me the best BJ I have ever had, spent the night and repeated in the morning before I left to work. No allowance at all, lost all contact with her a few days later though. From sleuthing her social media I guess she shacked up with some big shot in the film industry she found on SA. She was working in television so a dream come true for her.

Also met another girl who I swear was going to murder me the first time we met but we have been friends with benefits for a couple months now. No allowance except a couple gifts here and there. I shouldn't but I do get jealous as I see her profile is still up but she claims she doesn't talk to anyone and just has it for the laughs. Highly doubt it though.

Anyways, I was curious if you guys only come here to talk the bowl or if there are any other resources out there. I checked out reddit a couple times but the guys there seem like real pushovers.

[FarFarAway]

I had a long period in my 30's and 20's in the Bay, and my evaluation of the women there is that they are 49 ers. You know what that is, right? They're 4's, but think they're 9's. The bowl here in Orange County is great, and I think it is likely better in LA.


I miss living in Socal, so much more to choose from compared to where I am now in the Bay Area. Girls on SA have ridiculous expectations here, yet, I have had two very memorable experiences. Met a girl who had just moved from LA and was looking for someone to cover her living expenses. Our second date happened to be on her birthday and she gave me the best BJ I have ever had, spent the night and repeated in the morning before I left to work. No allowance at all, lost all contact with her a few days later though. From sleuthing her social media I guess she shacked up with some big shot in the film industry she found on SA. She was working in television so a dream come true for her.

Also met another girl who I swear was going to murder me the first time we met but we have been friends with benefits for a couple months now. No allowance except a couple gifts here and there. I shouldn't but I do get jealous as I see her profile is still up but she claims she doesn't talk to anyone and just has it for the laughs. Highly doubt it though.

Anyways, I was curious if you guys only come here to talk the bowl or if there are any other resources out there. I checked out reddit a couple times but the guys there seem like real pushovers.

[John HandCock]

I spent a good part of the weekend reviewing the girls on SA. I got to chat with about a dozen or so. I have my heart set on this one for now. If her story is legit, (I found her IG and an old OK cupid account) she would be the one. 21, 5.2, clean lifestyle, same age BF, works full time, no tats. Just needs a little help that he can't provide.Post a link to this beauty.

[HollywoodGuy]

The afore pictured hottie asked me yesterday if she could come right over. I said no. Today we had a planned date at 6. She is no w officially MIA. This has happen to me a few times. I have banged some amazing girls where when they said jump, I did and had an amazing time. Never to see them again. I hope this isn't another one that's permanently in the wind.

[HollywoodGuy]

I am often (or not so often) asked, what are the 5 steps to success. These steps should be relayed in 5 seperate messages.

Step 1 - Send her a message telling her about yourself and make her ponder her motives for being on the site.

Step 2 - Find out if she is just looking for an ATM or is she looking for a real connection.

Step 3 - Let her know that you are not an ATM and that you pay "this much" per date.

Setp 4 - Tell her to email you so that you can explain to her what your expectations are on a first date.

Step 5 - Now via email (or txt) Let her know its pay to play but she could opt for a "no sex, no money" date, except for normal dating expenses to get to know you better first.

[Captain Solo]

I started messages with a few very hot young girls.

Will try out your strategy.

Thanks for being very helpful to your bros.


I am often (or not so often) asked, what are the 5 steps to success. These steps should be relayed in 5 seperate messages.

Step 1 - Send her a message telling her about yourself and make her ponder her motives for being on the site.

Step 2 - Find out if she is just looking for an ATM or is she looking for a real connection.

Step 3 - Let her know that you are not an ATM and that you pay "this much" per date.

Setp 4 - Tell her to email you so that you can explain to her what your expectations are on a first date.

Step 5 - Now via email (or txt) Let her know its pay to play but she could opt for a "no sex, no money" date, except for normal dating expenses to get to know you better first.

[Xenpar]

I miss living in Socal, so much more to choose from compared to where I am now in the Bay Area. Girls on SA have ridiculous expectations here, yet, I have had two very memorable experiences. Met a girl who had just moved from LA and was looking for someone to cover her living expenses. Our second date happened to be on her birthday and she gave me the best BJ I have ever had, spent the night and repeated in the morning before I left to work. No allowance at all, lost all contact with her a few days later though. From sleuthing her social media I guess she shacked up with some big shot in the film industry she found on SA. She was working in television so a dream come true for her.

Also met another girl who I swear was going to murder me the first time we met but we have been friends with benefits for a couple months now. No allowance except a couple gifts here and there. I shouldn't but I do get jealous as I see her profile is still up but she claims she doesn't talk to anyone and just has it for the laughs. Highly doubt it though.

Anyways, I was curious if you guys only come here to talk the bowl or if there are any other resources out there. I checked out reddit a couple times but the guys there seem like real pushovers.


I had a long period in my 30's and 20's in the Bay, and my evaluation of the women there is that they are 49 ers. You know what that is, right? They're 4's, but think they're 9's. The bowl here in Orange County is great, and I think it is likely better in LA.As a Bay Area resident as well, I can agree the GPS is high due to (in my opinion) the amount of tech money in the area. I also agree there aren't as many women (especially hot) in the area compared to say Atlanta, LA or NYC. I suspect the M: F ratio is skewed more to men compared to elsewhere, so it's just a tougher market. With that said, patience is key. Your own personality and game are a huge part of it with regard to expenses. Develop a technique that isn't exhausting or time consuming and stick to it. Also, don't allow yourself to get jealous. Assume they are seeing others and that you're just along for the ride for as long as it lasts.

As far as reddit goes, I agree. I've found the posts here and in the http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not thread have been more representative of the reality.

[FarFarAway]

I've had an awful few days, not helped by it being Friday the 13th. I had two Latina POTs lined up for Wednesday near work, one for lunch and one for happy hour. #1 is 21 YO, absolutely beautiful, sent all kindsa lingerie photos, found her FB (she's in a relationship). #2 24 YO also pretty and stacked, in a relationship 6 years, complained about the BF / their sex, we've already extensively discussed FC activities, I'm looking forward to it. #1 goes crickets the day of, deactivates her profile on SA. #2 just doesn't reply to messages, 2 days later says 'had an out of town emergency'. I was supposed to be in the FC w / my regular SB Thursday am, but she wanted to party w / a GF Wednesday night and begged off. The afternoon was supposed to be a MnG w / 40's interior decorator, but she went silent as I tried to schedule. Today, I had coffee booked w / a 24 YO beautiful butchy asian / latin lesbian who says she's never had a dick but wants to try. I texted her before leaving my house, all's well, I get there and she's crickets. I messaged and then had an extensive phone conversation (yes, real voices) w / a 22 YO coed who had a 2 mo arrangement that melted down when his wife caught him. Very auspicious, we set the MnG today, she's a 5'7' spinner, found her FB / videos. I text the place to her this morning and get a text back about a deposit on an apartment. Never anything else. Huh? After I am back home w / the SO she texts she had to move and was sorry to miss our meeting, but still wants to try. Sigh. No pussy this week at all.

[HollywoodGuy]

I've had an awful few days, not helped by it being Friday the 13th. I had two Latina POTs lined up for Wednesday near work, one for lunch and one for happy hour. #1 is 21 YO, absolutely beautiful, sent all kindsa lingerie photos, found her FB (she's in a relationship). #2 24 YO also pretty and stacked, in a relationship 6 years, complained about the BF / their sex, we've already extensively discussed FC activities, I'm looking forward to it. #1 goes crickets the day of, deactivates her profile on SA. #2 just doesn't reply to messages, 2 days later says 'had an out of town emergency'. I was supposed to be in the FC w / my regular SB Thursday am, but she wanted to party w / a GF Wednesday night and begged off. The afternoon was supposed to be a MnG w / 40's interior decorator, but she went silent as I tried to schedule. Today, I had coffee booked w / a 24 YO beautiful butchy asian / latin lesbian who says she's never had a dick but wants to try. I texted her before leaving my house, all's well, I get there and she's crickets. I messaged and then had an extensive phone conversation (yes, real voices) w / a 22 YO coed who had a 2 mo arrangement that melted down when his wife caught him. Very auspicious, we set the MnG today, she's a 5'7' spinner, found her FB / videos. I text the place to her this morning and get a text back about a deposit on an apartment. Never anything else. Huh? After I am back home w / the SO she texts she had to move and was sorry to miss our meeting, but still wants to try. Sigh. No pussy this week at all.Thats funny. But not really. When you want it and can't get it. It is OMG frustrating. I am broke and have had a few nibbles. But no real angst about slow moving, not responding, and flaking pots. I am only focusing on my target group, so when I do score at least it will be or should be rewarding. I think I have been on SA for two full weeks now. I skipped a hottie that went to the wind. Or I should say to greener pastures. And skipped on a hot UTR.

[SupDaddy]

Can you or anyone else describe in detail how you find out someone's facebook or any other information?


I've had an awful few days, not helped by it being Friday the 13th. I had two Latina POTs lined up for Wednesday near work, one for lunch and one for happy hour. #1 is 21 YO, absolutely beautiful, sent all kindsa lingerie photos, found her FB (she's in a relationship).. I messaged and then had an extensive phone conversation (yes, real voices) w / a 22 YO coed who had a 2 mo arrangement that melted down when his wife caught him. Very auspicious, we set the MnG today, she's a 5'7' spinner, found her FB / videos. I text the place to her this morning and get a text back about a deposit on an apartment. Never anything else. Huh? After I am back home w / the SO she texts she had to move and was sorry to miss our meeting, but still wants to try. Sigh. No pussy this week at all.

[HollywoodGuy]

I am often (or not so often) asked, what are the 5 steps to success. These steps should be relayed in 5 seperate messages.

Step 1 - Send her a message telling her about yourself and make her ponder her motives for being on the site.

Step 2 - Find out if she is just looking for an ATM or is she looking for a real connection.

Step 3 - Let her know that you are not an ATM and that you pay "this much" per date.

Setp 4 - Tell her to email you so that you can explain to her what your expectations are on a first date.

Step 5 - Now via email (or txt) Let her know its pay to play but she could opt for a "no sex, no money" date, except for normal dating expenses to get to know you better first.Also. Anytime you ask a question and the pot does not respond to it specifically (like by just jumping ahead and giving you her number, or saying lets have dinner, or lets meet tonite). Just acknowledge her response and then take her right back to the script.

It will be tempting to jump ahead, BUT experience has taught me to stay away from mind reading and just follow the script as it is laid out. Pre-screening and pre-qualifying in the aforementioned manner will help avoid bad M&G's and avoid unrealistic expectations and then wasting every ones time.

Good Luck and Happy Hunting.

[HollywoodGuy]

Saw one of my x's last night. No sugar.

[Large Ess]

I would also like to know how to track down Facebook profiles. Seeing my 22 singer today. Was supposed to see my regular this morning but she's sick. Had a MnG setup for last night that has been in the works for weeks. She's close bu so was just supposed to come over and hang out. , maybe kiss a bit. When I repeated that no sugar suddenly she had to go to victorville! Ha! She's really cute with a nice rack and she has already texted me today, so perhaps she will come around. Had a very hot AF quote me 5 $ a meet and I gave my line, lo and behold she's fine with it.

[FarFarAway]

I would also like to know how to track down Facebook profiles. Seeing my 22 singer today. Was supposed to see my regular this morning but she's sick. Had a MnG setup for last night that has been in the works for weeks. She's close bu so was just supposed to come over and hang out. , maybe kiss a bit. When I repeated that no sugar suddenly she had to go to victorville! Ha! She's really cute with a nice rack and she has already texted me today, so perhaps she will come around. Had a very hot AF quote me 5 $ a meet and I gave my line, lo and behold she's fine with it.Hop over to the Richmond Va SB thread. I've posted over there about cyber intel. You just need your own FB page that is either your sugar identity or something else that can't be traced back to you. Supposedly, someone has tested w / several fake profiles if one can tell that another has looked at the page, and supposedly the answer is no, but I don't trust these social media companies. If you search someone's page (or their friends also) too much, I would expect FB to start suggesting them as friends or vice versa, and then the s* hits the fan.

[HollywoodGuy]

I would also like to know how to track down Facebook profiles. Seeing my 22 singer today. Was supposed to see my regular this morning but she's sick. Had a MnG setup for last night that has been in the works for weeks. She's close bu so was just supposed to come over and hang out. , maybe kiss a bit. When I repeated that no sugar suddenly she had to go to victorville! Ha! She's really cute with a nice rack and she has already texted me today, so perhaps she will come around. Had a very hot AF quote me 5 $ a meet and I gave my line, lo and behold she's fine with it.Lots of GPS out there. It's almost an inspiration to work overtime.

[DocOck]

If you search someone's page (or their friends also) too much, I would expect FB to start suggesting them as friends or vice versa, and then the s* hits the fan.This is definitely true. Always use fake social media profiles for internet sleuthing with fresh email accounts and burner numbers.

[HollywoodGuy]

So I finally did my M&G with the 20 year old (5.4 and 102 lbs) that I met on match.com. It was a lot of fun. Lots of kissing and cuddling. It could go somewhere. She actually told her mom about me already and said I would need to meet her if I wanted to date her. This girl is a virgin and is looking to lose that. She is here legally on a student visa, but I am sure a marriage would make that a lot easier. LOL. No chance of a pregnancy, but I didn't mention that to her. So the sugar was 0. As was to be expected.

[Lebruno]

Congrats HWG! Guess all the hard work is finally paying off with some zero sugar pussies! LOL.


So I finally did my M&G with the 20 year old (5.4 and 102 lbs) that I met on match.com. It was a lot of fun. Lots of kissing and cuddling. It could go somewhere. She actually told her mom about me already and said I would need to meet her if I wanted to date her. This girl is a virgin and is looking to lose that. She is here legally on a student visa, but I am sure a marriage would make that a lot easier. LOL. No chance of a pregnancy, but I didn't mention that to her. So the sugar was 0. As was to be expected.

[HollywoodGuy]

Congrats HWG! Guess all the hard work is finally paying off with some zero sugar pussies! LOL.Not totally. I am not really getting what I would normally get (bomb sex) if I was paying. But beggars can't be choosers.

[HollywoodGuy]

Found an anything goes girl 2 miles from my house. A 20 year old latina college student. Admittedly overweight. But it's been a while since I had an hour long BJ. I believe she will be up to the challenge. She is a super submissive that likes being roughed up, told what to do, is a total pleaser and has basically no limits. Cute face makes it work. Her close proximity is a little scary. She could walk here. The college student part eases my fears though.

[Tipisil]

Found an anything goes girl 2 miles from my house. A 20 year old latina college student. Admittedly overweight. But it's been a while since I had an hour long BJ. I believe she will be up to the challenge. She is a super submissive that likes being roughed up, told what to do, is a total pleaser and has basically no limits. Cute face makes it work. Her close proximity is a little scary. She could walk here. The college student part eases my fears though.Another gold nugget from SA?

[HollywoodGuy]

Another gold nugget from SA?I am all SA. I am slowly reconnecting with a few girls from the past and talking to a few new ones. At $$ a date I would be in model heaven. At a $ I have to cut a couple of corners but they are still nice girls. I pray my fortunes reverse in a year or two so I can partake of the awesome bounty available out there. For now I will have to play on their sympathies and ask for freebies here and there. And also not even worry about frequency. But the sun is out this morning (finally) and I am going to have a blessed day.

[SupDaddy]

Thanks for sharing the wisdom HWG! Can you let us know out of 10 girls, how many will get past question 2, they are looking for connection. Of those that want a connection, how many out of 10 will accept your $ per date offer?

I think we all know it takes effort, but it may be good to know the numbers so we don't get discouraged in the process.


Step 1 - Send her a message telling her about yourself and make her ponder her motives for being on the site.

Step 2 - Find out if she is just looking for an ATM or is she looking for a real connection.

Step 3 - Let her know that you are not an ATM and that you pay "this much" per date.
Good Luck and Happy Hunting.

[FarFarAway]

Some decent MnGs. I moved up in age to the 30's.

#1. 35 YO MILF, married but no sex at home, no bowl experience, but an affair. Near my work so minimal risk of SO discovery. Super hot spinner, red hair / blue eyes, classy dresser, jewelry, career, etc. Maybe this is just for the excitement. Foreign. I found her FB, all she said is true. Generous sugar promised. The only question at this stage is scheduling. I'll call her InlandRed.

#2. single Cali blonde, profile pic not her but I also found her FB from the cell #, so I knew she has a very pretty GND face, PeopleSmart says she is 40+, the profile / her lips? 34. In person, body maybe a little cushioned, but nice big knockers, hot legs in a dress slit up the thigh. Smart, professional job. Messaging for a week and an opening suddenly appeared in my schedule, so I texted. She couldn't go out today so invited me to her apartment complex party room. Hmm. Seemed a little sketchy but I run / drive fast so I went for it. Totally quiet spot, way better than any Sbux. Typical nice convo, she's had an arrangement. I ask some leading questions and it emerges she's submissive. Whadyaknow. Time flew and I needed to leave so I tested her, stood her up and told her to kiss me. Performed well, then blushed. Wise to stop there. No sugar talk. This is going to be fun. Her own place in a nice complex not too far from home (I know, might prefer distance, but at least I'll never be where I'm not supposed to be). I'll call her CoastBlond.

Reports after the FCs.

[HollywoodGuy]

Thanks for sharing the wisdom HWG! Can you let us know out of 10 girls, how many will get past question 2, they are looking for connection. Of those that want a connection, how many out of 10 will accept your $ per date offer?

I think we all know it takes effort, but it may be good to know the numbers so we don't get discouraged in the process.Everyones numbers will vary. The more game and experience you have the easier it will get. Just get out there and have some fun.

[Captain Solo]

Hot girl wanted me meet quick but wanted me to buy token+ with my bank card or PAYPAL?

Is she a scam? After I pay I will never see her.


I am all SA. I am slowly reconnecting with a few girls from the past and talking to a few new ones. At $$ a date I would be in model heaven. At a $ I have to cut a couple of corners but they are still nice girls. I pray my fortunes reverse in a year or two so I can partake of the awesome bounty available out there. For now I will have to play on their sympathies and ask for freebies here and there. And also not even worry about frequency. But the sun is out this morning (finally) and I am going to have a blessed day.

[HollywoodGuy]

I just did a one hour M&G with he aforementioned 20 year old latina chubby sub girl today. She had been pre-trained by another guy and was really more of the masochist type. I rubbed her pussy as hard as I could otc until my arm was sore. The harder I rubbed the more she liked it. Not the greatest kisser but good enough. On our first real date I am sure her mouth will be occupied elsewhere. She is 5 minutes away and available anytime after school. The M&G was a free test run.

[HollywoodGuy]

Talked to this one today. She is another girl from my past that says she would be very happy to reconnect. Awesome 20 year old body. Lives not too far away. I am ready for her now. LOL.

[WutsMyName]

Joined SA got a couple things going but damn there are some hustlers on there, but I found a pornstar and working something out with her.

I'm young not a typical daddy type so alot trying to play me.

Any tips going forward?

I spent the night with one 0 sugar.

Did a couple M&Gen one of them legit asked for snow I noted the hell out LOL.

Got a hot 19 who is new and seems down wanting minimal sugar / pampering.

[Captain Solo]

Thanks to the bros who share their info in this site.

I met a few girls potentially just ST hook ups.

Are there hourly notels along Freeway 5 that they would recommend?

[ChickenHawk88]

Reading these stories I decided to put it in for 6 months. I'm not as experienced as many of you guys but I'm going to give try. I have a couple that want to meet prob out of my range but just go to get the hang of this.

[Steve4100]

Thanks to the bros who share their info in this site.

I met a few girls potentially just ST hook ups.

Are there hourly notels along Freeway 5 that they would recommend?Read the thread titled "hourly motels in the area" under the Los Angeles forums. Do some research and you should get some answers. Good luck.

[Steve4100]

Talked to this one today. She is another girl from my past that says she would be very happy to reconnect. Awesome 20 year old body. Lives not too far away. I am ready for her now. LOL.Damn you find some fine looking women. Hope you can get your issues resolved and get back to the level you were at before. You are the man. .

[HollywoodGuy]

I just saw one of my UTR's from late last year. It was nice to see a familiar face and someone that's used to my quirks and eccentricities. She txted me out of the blue as she realized she was only 5 minutes from my house. So I picked her up and then dropped her off after at the train station.

The one pictured below is a POT I have been talking to off and on for a year and never met. In the beginning she was so adamant about her $$ so I just kept shining her on. Today she says, she has a day off coming soon, and will make the one hour train ride to my area for $ and maybe just hang out for a few hours. She is very sweet looking, 21 and in shape.

You never know when a pots fortunes will rise or fall, just as our own, and then their situation can be completely different. Usually over time they expect more. But not always.

[HollywoodGuy]

Damn you find some fine looking women. Hope you can get your issues resolved and get back to the level you were at before. You are the man. .One reason I love dating young black girls. Not only are they genetically predisposed to having better bodies a lot of them participated in sports all through school. A white girl with a body like this is going to want some serious coin to get frisky with an old fart like me. At this point, on average, I am triple these girls age. Life is good.

[Steve4100]

One reason I love dating young black girls. Not only are they genetically predisposed to having better bodies a lot of them participated in sports all through school. A white girl with a body like this is going to want some serious coin to get frisky with an old fart like me. At this point, on average, I am triple these girls age. Life is good.Yes I agree on the black girls. Most of the girls I see on a regular bases are also young and black. I even have a 51 year old black woman I see that could pass for 30. They also seem to be less inhibited. Only thing that seems to be better in white girls is that they are more likely to kiss. Black girls, for whatever reason, seem to not like to kiss. At least that has been my experience. I, like you, am much older than they are so not sure how much impact that has.

[HollywoodGuy]

Yes I agree on the black girls. Most of the girls I see on a regular bases are also young and black. I even have a 51 year old black woman I see that could pass for 30. They also seem to be less inhibited. Only thing that seems to be better in white girls is that they are more likely to kiss. Black girls, for whatever reason, seem to not like to kiss. At least that has been my experience. I, like you, am much older than they are so not sure how much impact that has.Most girls in general are not exactly addicted to kissing. It's a lost art. The one last night will do as I order her, and her kissing did get a little better as she got turned on. But she wasnt all that.

[FarFarAway]

This one will be CoastSub. She's 32. Her profile specifically says she likes older dominant guys. Well, 1 outa 2 aint bad. She's tall, busty, way prettier in person than on SA, bright, traveled, employed. Extremely nice conversation, lots of hair tossing, etc.

I'm just having a better feel for these 30's gals. They don't flake the way many of the coeds do, they seem truly interested, and any one of them has potential to offer a real connection, something I'm looking for more after the handful of SBs I've had so far. They're half my age instead of the 1/3 my age I've been trying some. Still, 1 of the 3 30's girls I have right now will need to go to the FC for me to find if this is fertile ground to plow.

[FarFarAway]

W / CoastSub. Lots of positive messages since MnG, so went for it. Drinks at the mall, and a better view of her. Not fat, but a larger frame matching her height, still a great rack, a beauty. Lots of great convo on culture, her knowledge surprised, then out to the parking garage, where I planned ahead. My car was isolated, excellent makeout session, she wants to know our next get-together. I whack her ass as she gets out. She loves it, swings it as she walks away. More + messages afterward. FC the next time for sure, but I have so many other MnGs, follow-ups, and work / travel, fitting it all in is my only problem. I know, a good one. I have so many POTs out of my last SA month, I don't mind my membership lapsing.

[HollywoodGuy]

Talked to this one today. She is another girl from my past that says she would be very happy to reconnect. Awesome 20 year old body. Lives not too far away. I am ready for her now. LOL.I saw her today. It tuns out that 20 year old was actually an 18 college freshman. Sweet nice clingy girl. I will be seeing her again.

[HollywoodGuy]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06d82902-8896-4541-8010-97a99ec071d0

Princess Z: a day ago.
Hey you want to have some fun with me.

ME: a day ago.
What guy wouldn't.

Princess Z: a day ago.
Well I'm in town for the weekend if you want to 925-XXX-XXXX.

ME: a day ago.
Like the other site asks. Whats your price?

Princess Z: about 23 hours ago.
How long you want to see me for?

ME: about 23 hours ago.
An hour.

Princess Z: about 22 hours ago.
120.

[ChickenHawk88]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06d82902-8896-4541-8010-97a99ec071d0

Princess Z: a day ago.
Hey you want to have some fun with me.

ME: a day ago.
What guy wouldn't.

Princess Z: a day ago.
Well I'm in town for the weekend if you want to 925-XXX-XXXX.

ME: a day ago.
Like the other site asks. Whats your price?

Princess Z: about 23 hours ago.
How long you want to see me for?

ME: about 23 hours ago.
An hour.

Princess Z: about 22 hours ago.
120.Thanks for the info. Looks like from the pic she's a dancer😁 so limber.

[Large Ess]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/06d82902-8896-4541-8010-97a99ec071d0

Princess Z: a day ago.
Hey you want to have some fun with me.

ME: a day ago.
What guy wouldn't.

Princess Z: a day ago.
Well I'm in town for the weekend if you want to 925-XXX-XXXX.

ME: a day ago.
Like the other site asks. Whats your price?

Princess Z: about 23 hours ago.
How long you want to see me for?

ME: about 23 hours ago.
An hour.

Princess Z: about 22 hours ago.
120.Damn nice and nice price. I am about to report on my Sunday which was great.

[Large Ess]

Second time with a incredibly buxom AF. We didn't got to FC the first tie only because she was on her period. This time we knew we would and she couldn't even wait for me to lick her sweet pussy. She grew a bit of a patch for me and I was in heaven. Love trimmed and landing strips. We fit well and she has a killer smile. Her BJ skills are off the chart. I find out today I am like her third guy. She's been with her boyfriend, had one crazy night which she doesn't remember and now me. She's a sweetheart and th the cost was uber and one Ulysses.

[FarFarAway]

Second time with a incredibly buxom AF. We didn't got to FC the first tie only because she was on her period. This time we knew we would and she couldn't even wait for me to lick her sweet pussy. She grew a bit of a patch for me and I was in heaven. Love trimmed and landing strips. We fit well and she has a killer smile. Her BJ skills are off the chart. I find out today I am like her third guy. She's been with her boyfriend, had one crazy night which she doesn't remember and now me. She's a sweetheart and th the cost was uber and one Ulysses.This, but what's AF? - and I did check the glossary at the Richmond thread.

[Justn Beaver]

Hey Guys!

I was just looking in Craigslist and came across this post that I have put the link up here for an older type that wants to mentor a younger lady in the Ktown area who works in DTLA. Maybe this person doesn't even want sugar but maybe she wants sugar I don't really know but this could help one of you out so that is why I just put it here. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/w4m/5971239539.html.

Have a great day!

Justn Beaver.

[Large Ess]

This, but what's AF? - and I did check the glossary at the Richmond thread.African American.

[FarFarAway]

African American.Why not use AA like others?

[HollywoodGuy]

This super hottie (pictured) hit me up today from her new profile. I guess she forgot I was that cheap dude that insulted her with an offer under $$$ or $$$$$ or whatever it was she was after. LOL. But boys the pickens are so easy right now. I have never seen this many willing girls at a $. In 3 weeks I got a dozen names and numbers and turned down two dozen more. So far i have been on 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$$$$. With varying degrees of success. From making out and rolling around on the floor, to a hot car date at a laundromat to the traditional FC date in my palace. My lack of funds has forced me to up my game, get a little more honest, and spend some real time showing an interest.

[The Tall Man]

This super hottie (pictured) hit me up today from her new profile. I guess she forgot I was that cheap dude that insulted her with an offer under $$$ or $$$$$ or whatever it was she was after. LOL. But boys the pickens are so easy right now. I have never seen this many willing girls at a $. In 3 weeks I got a dozen names and numbers and turned down two dozen more. So far i have been on 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$$$$. With varying degrees of success. From making out and rolling around on the floor, to a hot car date at a laundromat to the traditional FC date in my palace. My lack of funds has forced me to up my game, get a little more honest, and spend some real time showing an interest.She sure looks delicious though!

TTM.

[HollywoodGuy]

The one pictured below is a POT I have been talking to off and on for a year and never met. In the beginning she was so adamant about her $$ so I just kept shining her on. Today she says, she has a day off coming soon, and will make the one hour train ride to my area for $ and maybe just hang out for a few hours. She is very sweet looking, 21 and in shape.I spoke to her on the phone today. She sounds awesome. She only met two other guys off the site in a year of being on there. Both were really pushing their luck. It makes no sense as this is a naturally giving type girl. And just my type (5. 8 and 115 lbs). A real SB that want to hang out, maybe stay over. It; s all about the chemistry. She is looking for a once a week arrangement. I can handle that.

[DrMcNaughty]

7 dates just under 10 k! Jesus Daddt money bags haha! Lucky girls! What did you mean? $$ I would guess yes.


This super hottie (pictured) hit me up today from her new profile. I guess she forgot I was that cheap dude that insulted her with an offer under $$$ or $$$$$ or whatever it was she was after. LOL. But boys the pickens are so easy right now. I have never seen this many willing girls at a $. In 3 weeks I got a dozen names and numbers and turned down two dozen more. So far i have been on 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$$$$. With varying degrees of success. From making out and rolling around on the floor, to a hot car date at a laundromat to the traditional FC date in my palace. My lack of funds has forced me to up my game, get a little more honest, and spend some real time showing an interest.

[Large Ess]

Why not use AA like others?Just brain dead is all.

[Dolato]

7 dates just under 10 k! Jesus Daddt money bags haha! Lucky girls! What did you mean? $$ I would guess yes.He said 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$ not 10 k. At less than $ per date, that's a good cost per bang.

[DrMcNaughty]

I was joking I realized fully that he Daddy Good Deal had an extra $ . "settke down now" haha.


He said 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$ not 10 k. At less than $ per date, that's a good cost per bang.

[HollywoodGuy]

He said 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$ not 10 k. At less than $ per date, that's a good cost per bang.Actually it says 7 dates for just under $$$$$. Thats five $ or about .7 per date.

[Dolato]

Actually it says 7 dates for just under $$$$$. Thats five $ or about .7 per date.Yea I understood what you wrote. I copied and pasted your line and must have missed the extra $s at the end. Still not sure what the other guy's going on about though. I guess he's making jokes?

[Lebruno]

Wow. She looks super delicious. So did she come down from her original price?


This super hottie (pictured) hit me up today from her new profile. I guess she forgot I was that cheap dude that insulted her with an offer under $$$ or $$$$$ or whatever it was she was after. LOL. But boys the pickens are so easy right now. I have never seen this many willing girls at a $. In 3 weeks I got a dozen names and numbers and turned down two dozen more. So far i have been on 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$$$$. With varying degrees of success. From making out and rolling around on the floor, to a hot car date at a laundromat to the traditional FC date in my palace. My lack of funds has forced me to up my game, get a little more honest, and spend some real time showing an interest.

[Captain Solo]

The majority is blacks and Latinas. Most are not that good-looking, but do think their pussies are pure gold.

Quite a few do quick pay for play. Their fees plus hotel would run into $$ A thick Asian woman wanted $$ for a short session. I never messaged her again.

Older Caucasians and Latinas want lots of wine and dine at expensive restaurants with no assurance of sex after. Damn.

Many young girls want no physical relationships, just on line talk for money. WTF?

Most young girls want set monthly allowances, $2,000 to $5,000 or more for fucking a few times a month. These dim-witted, uneducated women think their pussies are worth a lot. Fuck their haughty attitudes. Women in the US are so stupid and spoiled. They all are blatant about taking advantages of and abusing the guys. I hope they end up with pimps who work them for nothing.

I can skip all the bullshit, go down to Tijuana, party, drink all night and fuck some of the hottest young girls every weekend for less than $100. Repeat next week.

[Captain Solo]

The thick Asian woman wanted $500 for a ST fuck. WTF?


Quite a few do quick pay for play. Their fees plus hotel would run into $$ A thick Asian woman wanted $500 for a short session. I never messaged her again.

[Stolper]

The majority is blacks and Latinas. Most are not that good-looking, but do think their pussies are pure gold.

Quite a few do quick pay for play. Their fees plus hotel would run into $$ A thick Asian woman wanted $$ for a short session. I never messaged her again.

Older Caucasians and Latinas want lots of wine and dine at expensive restaurants with no assurance of sex after. Damn.

Many young girls want no physical relationships, just on line talk for money. WTF?

Most young girls want set monthly allowances, $2,000 to $5,000 or more for fucking a few times a month. These dim-witted, uneducated women think their pussies are worth a lot. Fuck their haughty attitudes. Women in the US are so stupid and spoiled. They all are blatant about taking advantages of and abusing the guys. I hope they end up with pimps who work them for nothing.

I can skip all the bullshit, go down to Tijuana, party, drink all night and fuck some of the hottest young girls every weekend for less than $100. Repeat next week.This is all mostly true. While I love hearing about the stories on here, you have to realize that most of these girls being referred to here are AA and AA girls command a much lower price in every realm of paid sex work. So SA is not really the haven that you would think from reading these stories. You can get a 6/6 AA girl for little to no money, but good luck trying to get a 9/9 white or Asian girl for anything less than $$.

[DrMcNaughty]

I was smoking a wee bit tooo much of the ghost train haze. Yes I was joking!

G


Yea I understood what you wrote. I copied and pasted your line and must have missed the extra $s at the end. Still not sure what the other guy's going on about though. I guess he's making jokes?.

[FarFarAway]

This is all mostly true. While I love hearing about the stories on here, you have to realize that most of these girls being referred to here are AA and AA girls command a much lower price in every realm of paid sex work. So SA is not really the haven that you would think from reading these stories. You can get a 6/6 AA girl for little to no money, but good luck trying to get a 9/9 white or Asian girl for anything less than $$.Sorry, but you guys are reaping what you sow. I totally disagree with your characterization of the women on SA. I am on there a lot when my membership is active, and in my area, it isn't what you describe. I don't know what axe you have to grind w / them, but I can assure you that you're not competing w / me in the bowl, and the women on SA that I talk to will be happy not to have you messaging them.

[Stolper]

Sorry, but you guys are reaping what you sow. I totally disagree with your characterization of the women on SA. I am on there a lot when my membership is active, and in my area, it isn't what you describe. I don't know what axe you have to grind w / them, but I can assure you that you're not competing w / me in the bowl, and the women on SA that I talk to will be happy not to have you messaging them.I'm not sure where you are, but I've been in the bowl in multiple major cities. Maybe because I tend to go for the under 30's crowd. Maybe because I've only sugared in the "major" cities, but my experience has been exactly this. The ones who are willing to go straight to FC for little to no money have been AA, Latinas, "Mixed (aka AA)", or not super attractive (at least relative to the non-BP escort market). The ones that are white or Asian and slightly more attractive usually command a much higher rate, something like 400-500 for a night. And I'm talking about the ones actually willing to meet up, not that ones that promise you all sorts of things and don't show up. Maybe you have significantly better luck or a better approach, but from a quick read of your recent LA forum history, all I see are mostly complaints about SBs flaking or promises of FC meetups without follow throughs, or reports about less attractive than expected women. If you're actually meeting a ton of hot women who are going to FC for little to no money, then kudos to you. I'm just pointing out the other side, which is that people reading this forum shouldn't be misled and expect to find gorgeous 9/9 non-AA SBs just dying to have sex with you for less than 4-5 $ sugar.

[Captain Solo]

Most women show face piercing, huge tattoos, funny retouched pics, low level or no education, menial and clerical jobs, poor grammar and bad spelling errors. They look like trailer trash to me, but they want to trade whatever little they have to be "taken care of," for world travel, expensive shopping at fancy stores, wine and dine at fancy restaurants, spoiled with flattering and gifts, lots of stupid bullshit. They are dreaming their stupid dreams and make me laugh out of my ass. Hehe.

A few girls use pics copied off the internet, which can be easily found using tineye.

A few list their addresses in tony beach cities, but they actually live somewhere else, and target rich guys living near the beaches.

A few divorcees and alleged college students wanted to do ST quickly to pay expenses.

Messaged a few good-looking young students but they canceled their SA accounts and no longer responded. I hope they found their billionaire sugar daddies.

Found a tall and lanky Russian girl. Her face is not that pretty. She's on a tourist visa, trying to find ways to stay in the US to better her future. She was ready to do ST the next day but flaked out and moved to another town too far for me too meet. She was short of money and would do anything.

An attractive woman wanted to meet at a Starbuck Coffee. I made a mistake inviting her to a quick lunch. She wanted to go to fancy restaurants with a long drive so I had to cancel her. Now she wants to meet only in restaurants, no more Starbucks hehe.

A couple women claimed young children, wanted $20 per hour for baby sitters if we meet.

A fairly attractive business woman drove 50 miles to meet me then drove me out to lunch. She's single now and not so young, but still fairly attractive with her tight assets, with extended family nearby but still lonely, wanting companies for local trips and to be fucked for sure. She agreed to a few driving trips. After lunch I was kissing and groping her in the car. She was in a daze, looking horny for a good fuck, but insisted that she had to go to meetings.

She wanted to meet again next week. Will arrange for a local trips when I will fuck her all night, well, unless her boobs and her ass are too saggy and her pussy too loose that kill off my libido. It's hard to seduce me. I am jaded with the hot, fun, sexy, passionate and tight young spinners in Tijuana hehe. You can say I have many hot, sexy and flirty GF's there. I don't even look at women in the US anymore unless they are young and extremely attractive.

A few other interesting young girls wanted to meet, stating minimal expectations. I will definitely help those with genuine needs, but will play the stupid, greedy, ugly fools with way-inflated sense of self-worth hehe.

BACKPAGE's escort sections are now censored. Most advertisers moved to the dating sections, eventually may be a lot of them will be in SEEKING ARRANGEMENT.

US men have been beaten down and legally enslaved to US pussies. Even stupid clerical biitches working for DMV, cities, counties and state office are haughty and rude, need to be put in their proper clerical places. Don't let them abuse and exploit you like fools.

[FarFarAway]

I'm not sure where you are, but I've been in the bowl in multiple major cities. Maybe because I tend to go for the under 30's crowd. Maybe because I've only sugared in the "major" cities, but my experience has been exactly this. The ones who are willing to go straight to FC for little to no money have been AA, Latinas, "Mixed (aka AA)", or not super attractive (at least relative to the non-BP escort market). The ones that are white or Asian and slightly more attractive usually command a much higher rate, something like 400-500 for a night. And I'm talking about the ones actually willing to meet up, not that ones that promise you all sorts of things and don't show up. Maybe you have significantly better luck or a better approach, but from a quick read of your recent LA forum history, all I see are mostly complaints about SBs flaking or promises of FC meetups without follow throughs, or reports about less attractive than expected women. If you're actually meeting a ton of hot women who are going to FC for little to no money, then kudos to you. I'm just pointing out the other side, which is that people reading this forum shouldn't be misled and expect to find gorgeous 9/9 non-AA SBs just dying to have sex with you for less than 4-5 $ sugar.And who ever said you ought to be getting this for free? It's called sugar dating. It's not regular. After the excellent experience you've shown with your 9 posts, I am sure everyone is waiting w / bated breath to hear your next pronouncement.

I've had plenty of good experiences. The purpose of this forum in my view is to help each other out, share experiences good and bad, and maybe brag a little. B / c there are very few outlets available to discuss this matter, intrinsically.

[FarFarAway]

So, Captain, you want to run down all the women on SA in favor of the far superior women in Tijuana; perhaps you're just a shill for them and don't like seeing your business drop off b / c we don't need to head to Mexico anymore.

If you want to know about my and other's experience in the bowl, you should really go over to the Richmond VA Sugar Daddy thread (its the defacto national thread, the New York Times of sugaring), and you'll get an eyeful.


Most women show face piercing, huge tattoos, funny retouched pics, low level or no education, menial and clerical jobs, poor grammar and bad spelling errors. They look like trailer trash to me, but they want to trade whatever little they have to be "taken care of," for world travel, expensive shopping at fancy stores, wine and dine at fancy restaurants, spoiled with flattering and gifts, lots of stupid bullshit. They are dreaming their stupid dreams and make me laugh out of my ass. Hehe.

A few girls use pics copied off the internet, which can be easily found using tineye.

A few list their addresses in tony beach cities, but they actually live somewhere else, and target rich guys living near the beaches.

A few divorcees and alleged college students wanted to do ST quickly to pay expenses.

Messaged a few good-looking young students but they canceled their SA accounts and no longer responded. I hope they found their billionaire sugar daddies.

Found a tall and lanky Russian girl. Her face is not that pretty. She's on a tourist visa, trying to find ways to stay in the US to better her future. She was ready to do ST the next day but flaked out and moved to another town too far for me too meet. She was short of money and would do anything.

An attractive woman wanted to meet at a Starbuck Coffee. I made a mistake inviting her to a quick lunch. She wanted to go to fancy restaurants with a long drive so I had to cancel her. Now she wants to meet only in restaurants, no more Starbucks hehe.

A couple women claimed young children, wanted $20 per hour for baby sitters if we meet.

A fairly attractive business woman drove 50 miles to meet me then drove me out to lunch. She's single now and not so young, but still fairly attractive with her tight assets, with extended family nearby but still lonely, wanting companies for local trips and to be fucked for sure. She agreed to a few driving trips. After lunch I was kissing and groping her in the car. She was in a daze, looking horny for a good fuck, but insisted that she had to go to meetings.

She wanted to meet again next week. Will arrange for a local trips when I will fuck her all night, well, unless her boobs and her ass are too saggy and her pussy too loose that kill off my libido. It's hard to seduce me. I am jaded with the hot, fun, sexy, passionate and tight young spinners in Tijuana hehe. You can say I have many hot, sexy and flirty GF's there. I don't even look at women in the US anymore unless they are young and extremely attractive.

A few other interesting young girls wanted to meet, stating minimal expectations. I will definitely help those with genuine needs, but will play the stupid, greedy, ugly fools with way-inflated sense of self-worth hehe.

BACKPAGE's escort sections are now censored. Most advertisers moved to the dating sections, eventually may be a lot of them will be in SEEKING ARRANGEMENT.

US men have been beaten down and legally enslaved to US pussies. Even stupid clerical biitches working for DMV, cities, counties and state office are haughty and rude, need to be put in their proper clerical places. Don't let them abuse and exploit you like fools.

[Captain Solo]

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[Ks Dark Knight]

He said 7 dates this month for a total of just under $$ not 10 k. At less than $ per date, that's a good cost per bang.In my day we used to call that type of math the CPH factor. Cost Per Hose. LOL.

[Captain Solo]

By laws in most states, exchanging sex for money, or any sorts of valuable compensation, is prostitution. I am surprised there are so many girls and women in may age groups, some with responsible jobs and families, are asking for money to fuck. The feds most likely have undercover agents in all suspected sites already. After busting Craigslist and Backpage, they will go after their next targets. They may even set up stings to trap these sugar babies in their acts.

Almost all girls and women in SA want money in exchange for their companies and of course, sex. They try to manipulate guys into thinking they are good girls, not prostitutes, therefore their sexual services are worth more. Some require long-term arrangements of $5,000 to $8,000 a month for a few meetings and fuck sessions. If they can string 10 guys along, then they can make serious money. Good luck finding those guys and not the cheap mongers who want to fuck for free. Hope the sugar babies won't starve while waiting for their big breaks.

I guess a few old, lonely guys, perhaps drug traffickers, with lots of easy money to burn, may spend that kind of money just to spoil and fuck a few young pussies. Too bad El Chapo is in the slammer. Good luck finding more guys like him who have lots of easy drugs money to waste. Sugar babies may starve while waiting for arrangements with those kinds of guys. Of course getting close to gangsters and criminals can bring serious security risks. With any suspicion of infidelity or snitching to DEA, the bad boys have been known to cut the throats and dispose of their GFs easily.

The woman I just met is not in her 20's but still pretty, tight and firm in all the right places. She acted horny and liked me so much that she started talking about a few trips we will take together. She wanted me to go to her church, WTF? Perhaps she's a sugar mommy and I am her baby hehe.

A few super scholars claimed post graduate degrees but had no ideas what fields they were in, may be just hoing for money hehe. Will look into the finances of a few young and pretty students and help them out accordingly.

[BenderOver]

By laws in most states, exchanging sex for money, or any sorts of valuable compensation, is prostitution. I am surprised there are so many girls and women in may age groups, some with responsible jobs and families, are asking for money to fuck. The feds most likely have undercover agents in all suspected sites already. After busting Craigslist and Backpage, they will go after their next targets. They may even set up stings to trap these sugar babies in their acts.

Almost all girls and women in SA want money in exchange for their companies and of course, sex. They try to manipulate guys into thinking they are good girls, not prostitutes, therefore their sexual services are worth more. Some require long-term arrangements of $5,000 to $8,000 a month for a few meetings and fuck sessions. If they can string 10 guys along, then they can make serious money. Good luck finding those guys and not the cheap mongers who want to fuck for free. Hope the sugar babies won't starve while waiting for their big breaks.

I guess a few old, lonely guys, perhaps drug traffickers, with lots of easy money to burn, may spend that kind of money just to spoil and fuck a few young pussies. Too bad El Chapo is in the slammer. Good luck finding more guys like him who have lots of easy drugs money to waste. Sugar babies may starve while waiting for arrangements with those kinds of guys. Of course getting close to gangsters and criminals can bring serious security risks. With any suspicion of infidelity or snitching to DEA, the bad boys have been known to cut the throats and dispose of their GFs easily.

The woman I just met is not in her 20's but still pretty, tight and firm in all the right places. She acted horny and liked me so much that she started talking about a few trips we will take together. She wanted me to go to her church, WTF? Perhaps she's a sugar mommy and I am her baby hehe.

A few super scholars claimed post graduate degrees but had no ideas what fields they were in, may be just hoing for money hehe. Will look into the finances of a few young and pretty students and help them out accordingly.I don't pay women for sex. I pay them to leave afterwards.

Charlie Sheen for president!

[Captain Solo]

I paid $75 for 3 months in MATCH.COM just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of MATCH.COM so you don't have to pay subscription.

There are some very attractive and accomplished females in MATCH.COM, albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.

In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.

[SA2222]

Anyone indulge in this 23 yo sluttty girl?

[Dog Rice]

I have similar experiences as you about SA. SA used to have less pros, but now most of SA gals are pros (in my area. San Diego). Unfortunately, Match.com does not work well for mongers with SO. Like myself.


I paid $75 for 3 months in MATCH.COM just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of MATCH.COM so you don't have to pay subscription.

There are some very attractive and accomplished females in MATCH.COM, albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.

In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.

[Pinche Gringo]

Dog Rice.

That is why I left SA. It was getting so hard wading through the pro's there. SD4 ME was the same. The search for that allusive NP goes on. I, have a SO so my play time is limited.


I have similar experiences as you about SA. SA used to have less pros, but now most of SA gals are pros (in my area. San Diego). Unfortunately, Match.com does not work well for mongers with SO. Like myself.

[DutchTreat]

Now you're talking my language! I'll drink to that!

Dutch.


I paid $75 for 3 months in MATCH.COM just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of MATCH.COM so you don't have to pay subscription.

There are some very attractive and accomplished females in MATCH.COM, albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.

In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.

[ChickenHawk88]

Anyone indulge in this 23 yo sluttty girl?Would help with link or pic 🤔.

[Captain Solo]

I messaged about 50 of the best -looking young babes.

A few wanted front money to pay for lost phones so they can arrange to meet. Ya right!

A few alleged college students have been texting me again and again, wanting to meet.

Others would go around and around, sending me messages asking what kinds of arrangements I wanted. It's obvious they are just fishing around for the highest prices. Eventually I told them they are the asking parties, so I want the hear their proposals. Their normal range is $300 for 1 hour and $400 for 90 minutes. I suppose prices can be haggled down.

Talked to a few alleged young girls with the prettiest pictures. They sounded very nice and sweet, but would not meet face to face until arrangements have been made, like $2 K to $8 K a month, meeting a few times each month. May be movie stars and Hollywood execs have lots of slush money they can spend on their young fuck toys.

The compensation arrangements range from pay per meet, to supposed long-term exclusive relationships, and anything in between. The young girls were talking details of the arrangements like good contract lawyers. It sure sounds like an established industry to me. A simple signature on a contract may obligate signers to millions in obligations, which can be collected. So be very careful what contracts you sign.


I have similar experiences as you about SA. SA used to have less pros, but now most of SA gals are pros (in my area. San Diego). Unfortunately, Match.com does not work well for mongers with SO. Like myself.

[HollywoodGuy]

Wow. She looks super delicious. So did she come down from her original price?I haven't bothered to ask yet.

[HollywoodGuy]

I paid $75 for 3 months in MATCH.COM just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of MATCH.COM so you don't have to pay subscription.

There are some very attractive and accomplished females in MATCH.COM, albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.

In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.You get what you put into it. I stick by my prior statement. There are many hot girls you can get for $$ a date (meaning $$ cash to her). Maybe asian and super hot white girls are $$$. There may be extras like a room or a meal or whatever (or not). You will need some game to do it. But it's very doable. Any race. Any age. Just develop your game. And read their profiles.

Look for girls that says they dont know what they are looking for, or that want a real connection, or that like to chill at home, etc.

Does that mean every girl is to be had? Of course not. But with so many competing for your business, its just about having to spend the hours. And it is a lot of hours. If you dont have the time then you are going to spend more. Maybe a lot more. God has blessed me with a love for AA women so I do get off a bit easier for sure. AA models are $$ all day. And for a $ I have no trouble getting ones with great bodies even if they are less in the looks dept. But far from average. But it comes down to game. My x the stripper who routinely turns down 5 bills for sex (and never takes less than a $ just to go on a dinner date) is currently more than happy to let me off easy. But thats a LTR that I have a lot of time invested into. But if all you have to offer (or want to offer) is cash. Expect to pay more.

For now I will stick to my $ girls, and there are no shortages.

[Captain Solo]

Truth is, lots of those SA women are overweight, look trashy with piercing and tattoos, not my types. I would never fuck them.

Most will quickly agree to ST sessions from $200 to $500 plus hotels, which can be steep. Did find a fairly good-looking business woman in her 30's. Went to lunch with her and got along great. She just wants fun and to release stress hehe.

The hot ones won't meet until they have long-term arrangements, costing $5 K to $8 K a month to meet 3 to 4 times. Not even sure if their pics are real. I suppose if they keep fishing they may find a few guys with big money in Los Angeles who can afford to spoil their sugar babies with that kind of money.

This girl April told me she's still going to school, volunteering for Suicide Prevention ect. Then she ratted off clauses in the agreement and different levels of pricing like a lawyer. If any guys stupid enough to sign such agreement, they may be liable for big money that can be collected in court. Collection lawyers are cheap and ready. Meanwhile she can string along dozens guys at the same time. This looks like a big scam.

I have other alternatives with known better quality that cost much less time and money.

Will not renew the SA sub.


You get what you put into it. I stick by my prior statement. There are many hot girls you can get for $$ a date (meaning $$ cash to her). Maybe asian and super hot white girls are $$$. There may be extras like a room or a meal or whatever (or not). You will need some game to do it. But it's very doable. Any race. Any age. Just develop your game. And read their profiles.

Look for girls that says they dont know what they are looking for, or that want a real connection, or that like to chill at home, etc.

Does that mean every girl is to be had? Of course not. But with so many competing for your business, its just about having to spend the hours. And it is a lot of hours. If you dont have the time then you are going to spend more. Maybe a lot more. God has blessed me with a love for AA women so I do get off a bit easier for sure. AA models are $$ all day. And for a $ I have no trouble getting ones with great bodies even if they are less in the looks dept. But far from average. But it comes down to game. My x the stripper who routinely turns down 5 bills for sex (and never takes less than a $ just to go on a dinner date) is currently more than happy to let me off easy. But thats a LTR that I have a lot of time invested into. But if all you have to offer (or want to offer) is cash. Expect to pay more.

For now I will stick to my $ girls, and there are no shortages.

[Captain Solo]

I have always given money to girls, women, even friends in need. No problems with that. I just hate the stupid little games these women play about dates and sex, which are not available until you pay. These women are all pay-for-play fuck toys.

There are plenty beautiful young women available for play that cost a lot less time and money. One sweet and very beautiful young girl in NewPort Beach would do a full hour massage and sex in her hotel room for $100. An Asian woman in her late 20's with banging body would do suck and fuck in her hotel room for $50. She works in Anaheim near Disney. PM me if you want her tel. At least they are honest about what they do and deserve my respect.

I would drive down to Tijuana about every week and party with dozens of hot young girls in bars. Some of those girls look and feel as good as super models. Even some of the $20 girls on the streets look good enough to turn heads in Los Angeles. I can speak only very little Spanish and the girls very little English. We can't do meaningful conversation, not sure if I even want to get into deep personal relationships with them, but enough interaction that I have enough fun and sexual fulfillment every week hehe. The Mexican girls are at least honest about what they want.

Will not waste any more time chasing old, ugly, trashy gold diggers in SA, who play hard games to extract maximum money from me.


Now you're talking my language! I'll drink to that!

Dutch.

[John HandCock]

Truth is, lots of those SA women are overweight, look trashy with piercing and tattoos, not my types. I would never fuck them.

Most will quickly agree to ST sessions from $200 to $500 plus hotels, which can be steep. Did find a fairly good-looking business woman in her 30's. Went to lunch with her and got along great. She just wants fun and to release stress hehe.

The hot ones won't meet until they have long-term arrangements, costing $5 K to $8 K a month to meet 3 to 4 times. Not even sure if their pics are real. I suppose if they keep fishing they may find a few guys with big money in Los Angeles who can afford to spoil their sugar babies with that kind of money.

This girl April told me she's still going to school, volunteering for Suicide Prevention ect. Then she ratted off clauses in the agreement and different levels of pricing like a lawyer. If any guys stupid enough to sign such agreement, they may be liable for big money that can be collected in court. Collection lawyers are cheap and ready. Meanwhile she can string along dozens guys at the same time. This looks like a big scam.

I have other alternatives with known better quality that cost much less time and money.

Will not renew the SA sub.K the horse is pretty well beaten to death so why keep beating it. You don't like SA. Its not for everyone and pretty clear not for you. Move on to what's your cup of tea.

[Raslan]

OK, you've given your opinion on SA. Not your thing, not your cup of tea. Gotcha. Move on. Next topic. No problem. For me, however, for HG and others, it has worked. A lot of work, granted, and I can get a 20 something "Amazo. Hottie" off HX all day long for a lot less trouble but I, just me talking here, doesn't have to be you, have found some women there who are a blast! Are they 8,9,10's? Nope. But they truly get into it, do incredible things with and to me that no amount of cheddar on HX will get me. Call me a softie but I also, like a lot of the ladies there am looking for an emotional connection along with the 'tang. My MO is to hit it hard for a month or so and let the natural process of attrition take over until I boil it down to a couple or even one who is what I'm looking for. Until I get bored and do it all over again!

To each his own, no harm no foul.

Oh, and, I'm sure you will want to flame me with whatever names you feel appropo since I don't happen to agree with you. Flame away.

[HollywoodGuy]

OK, you've given your opinion on SA. Not your thing, not your cup of tea. Gotcha. Move on. Next topic. No problem. For me, however, for HG and others, it has worked. A lot of work, granted, and I can get a 20 something "Amazo. Hottie" off HX all day long for a lot less trouble but I, just me talking here, doesn't have to be you, have found some women there who are a blast! Are they 8,9,10's? Nope. But they truly get into it, do incredible things with and to me that no amount of cheddar on HX will get me. Call me a softie but I also, like a lot of the ladies there am looking for an emotional connection along with the 'tang. My MO is to hit it hard for a month or so and let the natural process of attrition take over until I boil it down to a couple or even one who is what I'm looking for. Until I get bored and do it all over again!

To each his own, no harm no foul.

Oh, and, I'm sure you will want to flame me with whatever names you feel appropo since I don't happen to agree with you. Flame away.Its kinda like going out to dinner. You can just go to mastros and get the best steak in town (for top dollar) or you can look for the hidden gems (like taylors). Maybe not as good, but more than satisfying for half the price. Also I do believe we all do SA looking for the "fresher" girls. The mileage that a known pro has may not be so appealing to some and not a big deal to others. I prefer the raw talent as opposed to the more experienced providers (that may not be all that anyway), from all that I have read and experienced.

[FarFarAway]

African American.This was in response to my question as to what AF means. I found on another thread it refers to the Arrangement Finders site too.

[HollywoodGuy]

This was in response to my question as to what AF means. I found on another thread it refers to the Arrangement Finders site too.Or Asian Female.

[Dolato]

OK, you've given your opinion on SA. Not your thing, not your cup of tea. Gotcha. Move on. Next topic. No problem. For me, however, for HG and others, it has worked. A lot of work, granted, and I can get a 20 something "Amazo. Hottie" off HX all day long for a lot less trouble but I, just me talking here, doesn't have to be you, have found some women there who are a blast! Are they 8,9,10's? Nope. But they truly get into it, do incredible things with and to me that no amount of cheddar on HX will get me. Call me a softie but I also, like a lot of the ladies there am looking for an emotional connection along with the 'tang. My MO is to hit it hard for a month or so and let the natural process of attrition take over until I boil it down to a couple or even one who is what I'm looking for. Until I get bored and do it all over again!+1 on everything you said. I played in the sugar bowl for a while and had a blast. Being without a so, I had the freedom / time to make it work. Some were duds and I made plenty of mistakes, and others were experiences I'll look back on with a smile for the rest of my life. I've only been doing hx lately because I couldn't put in the time to fish in the sugar world the proper way with the m&g and the mass messages. With the news of all those mall retail shops closing, that's got to add some more fish in the sea. I've been tempted to dive back in and contribute to some college funds in socal.

[Captain Solo]

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[Tipisil]

Has anyone had any experience with Seeking Arrangement? Its the site that pops up on this site when you try to log in.

[FarFarAway]

Has anyone had any experience with Seeking Arrangement? Its the site that pops up on this site when you try to log in.There is a vast quantity of postings about it here and on the Richmond, VA sugar daddy thread. It is the leading site.

[Steve4100]

There is a vast quantity of postings about it here and on the Richmond, VA sugar daddy thread. It is the leading site.Also discussed on many other city sites. In some cities it actually has it's own thread.

[Velroy]

You getting a free month from match dot com for this?


I paid $75 for 3 months in MATCH.COM just to see the differences from SA. You can post free listings and add email address or tel number. People can contact you outside of MATCH.COM so you don't have to pay subscription.

There are some very attractive and accomplished females in MATCH.COM, albeit older in their 30's and 40's, not so hot-looking but absent tattoos and body piercings, who post long, detailed, apparently true and believable biographical backgrounds, honest, dignified people wanting normal dating and companies without compensation.

In comparison, SA has lots more young, hot females, in 18 to 20 age groups, with fancy pictures showing lots of tattoos and body piercings, shallow, artificial, sometimes outright fake bios. They all want to sell their companies and their pussies for money, some wanting lots of money. Hate to say it, but SA women appear shallow, ignorant, uneducated trailer trash, who try to disguise and deny what they do, but by all practical and essential considerations, they are really doing shameless prostitution.

[Captain Solo]

Only 3 months.

Don't know of any free months.


You getting a free month from match dot com for this?

[Captain Solo]

She uses a very old pic and refused to allow access to her private pics.

Had a meeting at local Starbucks, swanky but populated by a few weirdos and a hairy, smelly homeless guy eating his meal. The place was depressing, scary, not exactly upwardly mobile. There was a young Asian girl working on her lap top. I should have made the move on her.

Kareem showed up about 1 hour late. She's Hispanic from central America and looked way below average, old and flabby, wearing large, loose, frumpy clothing and cheap perfume, far worse than even the cleaning women in my neighborhood. We moved to a fast food place next door where there was more room to talk. I bought her a milk shake and some cookies which she saved for her son.

We were doing small talk. She said she was nervous. She has 1 son, works a secretary 35 miles away. She's living with a female roommate who watches her son, likely her useless, mooching BF. She seems to have a very hard life. Looks like she has been driving around hooking after work.

I was pretty disgusted with the ways she looked, smelled and sounded. I would never want to be next to, left alone fucking such bad-looking and lowly woman, and paying her. I was considering giving her a little money for her son, but shelved the idea. I don't need to have sympathy for trashy people who fuck up their lives.

[HollywoodGuy]

So my roommate is moving out this week. Back to her home state in the south. I loved having her here (and collecting rent). But I am going to turn her room into some sort of pussy palace when she leaves. I got a new roomate most likely taking her place. Another girl I met on SA. But she is going to take the small bedroom for less rent. Its nice to have a young girl around even if I,m not banging her. And there is always a lot of teasing and flirting to keep it interesting between the real dates. This new one gets some serious sugar when she partakes. Like 1 k for an overnite from her current SD. But she has a real job with decent pay.

Still got my ATF for uber money only. And my stripper x for normal civi dating fees. But I am ready to meet some new girls. The last two were OK but not what I am really looking for. A non-pro first timer with awesome skills & thats in my demographic.

[Raslan]

I saw a profile on AM focusing on the cyber hacking and fem bot aspect of AM. Supposedly. After the whole hacking thing, they got rid of the bots. Has anyone heard anything about AM lately?

[Lebruno]

The site that pops up when you log into USASG is Secret Benefits and not SA. I did create an account for the heck of it. There is no free limited trial options. Only P2 P from the get-go. I am not pulling the trigger yet until I hear some positive reviews.


Has anyone had any experience with Seeking Arrangement? Its the site that pops up on this site when you try to log in.