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Valerie12
18 Los Angeles
Sweetest girl
Hello, as you may know my name is Valerie and I just wanted to tell you a bit about myself and what I am interested in. I'm 16 years old and I'm looking for a man who could spoil me.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb7f90f11/view
First one I have encountered prior to asking for a picture ID. Her message to me above.
I have caught about 6 more after asking.I messaged her a few days ago, but she hasn't read it yet. Thanks for the headsup. I've only encountered one other underaged girl (that I know of) on the site -- she volunteered the information after we had settled the meeting details. I of course told her I wasn't comfortable with that at all.
HWG -- what do you do in that kind of situation? Report the profile? Leave it alone? On the one hand, if they are underage, they shouldn't be messing around the site and probably should be reported. The other side of it is that maybe it's LE and they're looking to catch people going after dudes who would seek younger girls.
As planned I saw my girl "N" today. I think it was our 6th date and definitely our hottest one yet..OMG HG you are one hell of a patient guy.
How long did you you let your room mate stay without f'ing her. Naw I take my hat off to you bro' you got the game and the time to weave that spell on the Sista's.
HollywoodGuy
10-31-15, 20:17
I messaged her a few days ago, but she hasn't read it yet. Thanks for the headsup. I've only encountered one other underaged girl (that I know of) on the site -- she volunteered the information after we had settled the meeting details. I of course told her I wasn't comfortable with that at all.
HWG -- what do you do in that kind of situation? Report the profile? Leave it alone? On the one hand, if they are underage, they shouldn't be messing around the site and probably should be reported. The other side of it is that maybe it's LE and they're looking to catch people going after dudes who would seek younger girls.I prefer to mind my own business. There are lots of girls unable to produce a CA picture ID. I got one on hold till her 18th bday. Reporting people is just going to turn into one of those no good deed goes unpunished scenarios. Not for me. I just move on.
HollywoodGuy
10-31-15, 20:20
OMG HG you are one hell of a patient guy.
How long did you you let your room mate stay without f'ing her. Naw I take my hat off to you bro' you got the game and the time to weave that spell on the Sista's.She is leaving on the 25th of this month back to her moms in another state. And I am never going to fuck her. But having a lot of girls around just keeps the other ones on their toes. The day she leaves I expect all hell to break loose once anyone finds out I am living alone. The tiny BJ she gave me this morning was just a reminder of what I could be getting if I made her my exclusive GF. Something that also is never going to happen.
HollywoodGuy
10-31-15, 20:35
I messaged her a few days ago, but she hasn't read it yet. Thanks for the headsup. I've only encountered one other underaged girl (that I know of) on the site -- she volunteered the information after we had settled the meeting details. I of course told her I wasn't comfortable with that at all.
HWG -- what do you do in that kind of situation? Report the profile? Leave it alone? On the one hand, if they are underage, they shouldn't be messing around the site and probably should be reported. The other side of it is that maybe it's LE and they're looking to catch people going after dudes who would seek younger girls.I hear stories all the time from girls that they, or their friend, or cousin or whoever was or is fucking some guy older than they are supposed to. These guys just don't realize how lucky they are not to be in jail. I love risk, but I love my freedom more.
Saw my little girl "N" again last night once she was done with halloweening. Date number 8 and still all covered. Trying to break her of that. But no luck so far. I would hate to have to stop seeing her. But so far I have no replacements on board. Her $ a date donation rate for 90 minutes still keeps me coming back for more.1, Show her a clean test.
2. Offer her more money.
3. Bring plan be birth control.
4. Bob's your uncle.
HeartofaLion
11-01-15, 21:58
Saw my little girl "N" again last night once she was done with halloweening. Date number 8 and still all covered. Trying to break her of that. But no luck so far. I would hate to have to stop seeing her. But so far I have no replacements on board. Her $ a date donation rate for 90 minutes still keeps me coming back for more.I'm all loving your girl and. How tall is she? She look very petite and that is a good height espeacialy for different positions.
HollywoodGuy
11-02-15, 02:54
1, Show her a clean test.
2. Offer her more money.
3. Bring plan be birth control.
4. Bob's your uncle.1. she has seen that.
2. not going to do that.
3. already have a vasectomy.
4. I am her daddy and she is already my very little girl.
HollywoodGuy
11-02-15, 03:02
I'm all loving your girl and. How tall is she? She look very petite and that is a good height espeacialy for different positions.She is like 5'4" and a little thicker than I like for the very reason you mention. But she has some other good qualities that are very very hard to find. And we do have real chemistry. So I am going to hang in there for now.
For anyone who reads my posts, my "Hawaiian Princess" is back in L. A. visiting some family. Since I over lavished her the last time she was here I told her we have to have at least two dates in the FC before she sees another dime (which she agreed to). And then its straight to a $ a date after that.
Now imagine the brattiest girl you can. Like non stop and intentionally annoying. And a one off virgin (by me) and gay. So finally after 8 weeks of her being gone and dozens of emails during that time begging for money (in spite of or because of her solidly middle class life), she finally breaks down and admits she is lonely and bored and wants to know if she can just come by and chill. I agreed.
HeartofaLion
11-02-15, 04:06
She is like 5'4" and a little thicker than I like for the very reason you mention. But she has some other good qualities that are very very hard to find. And we do have real chemistry. So I am going to hang in there for now.
For anyone who reads my posts, my "Hawaiian Princess" is back in L. A. visiting some family. Since I over lavished her the last time she was here I told her we have to have at least two dates in the FC before she sees another dime (which she agreed to). And then its straight to a $ a date after that.
Now imagine the brattiest girl you can. Like non stop and intentionally annoying. And a one off virgin (by me) and gay. So finally after 8 weeks of her being gone and dozens of emails during that time begging for money (in spite of or because of her solidly middle class life), she finally breaks down and admits she is lonely and bored and wants to know if she can just come by and chill. I agreed.Bratty girls. I love them, even intentionally. You prolly watched me on video been dimmed by a hot bratty girl. I never charged a dime in there but shooting those clips opened my door for a paying fetish career. But there is nothing like doing it on real life. Even better when she enjoys that power. Guys, don't get me wrong. It is hot to be on top but been a bottom it is a good experience too. Ands let me tell you that most of the time the best action happened off camera just between takes. Some of that took over even after the shoot.
Oh. I thought this and girls was the same you said that was looking for some dates the other day. One you mentioned who lived by Manchester area.
I really like your advrntures and I'm always waiting to hear all about them. Even your roommate that keeps you company, that is a awesome. If I was on your position I would also do the same thing and on the same circumstances. I have a friends who fulfills my foot fetish for nothing. . 20, . 15.
Last time (4 days ago) she came to my place and asked me if she can bring her cousin to change clothes, shower, etc. Yes, my reward was all feetnIncould get. I lotioned her legs, feet and same for her dousing. On top of that, meeting her dousing was great. While my friend was taking a shower, her cousin gave me a hug and started grooving me and dancing her behind just after I gave her a foot massage. I grabbed her neck ands started kissing her with lots of passion. She started to relax herself and my hands start to get busy. To bad she is from Lancaster and I don't have a car now. Ahhhh.
HollywoodGuy
11-02-15, 13:21
Bratty girls. I love them, even intentionally. You prolly watched me on video been dimmed by a hot bratty girl. I never charged a dime in there but shooting those clips opened my door for a paying fetish career. But there is nothing like doing it on real life. Even better when she enjoys that power. Guys, don't get me wrong. It is hot to be on top but been a bottom it is a good experience too. Ands let me tell you that most of the time the best action happened off camera just between takes. Some of that took over even after the shoot.
Oh. I thought this and girls was the same you said that was looking for some dates the other day. One you mentioned who lived by Manchester area.
I really like your advrntures and I'm always waiting to hear all about them. Even your roommate that keeps you company, that is a awesome. If I was on your position I would also do the same thing and on the same circumstances. I have a friends who fulfills my foot fetish for nothing. . 20, . 15.
Last time (4 days ago) she came to my place and asked me if she can bring her cousin to change clothes, shower, etc. Yes, my reward was all feetnIncould get. I lotioned her legs, feet and same for her dousing. On top of that, meeting her dousing was great. While my friend was taking a shower, her cousin gave me a hug and started grooving me and dancing her behind just after I gave her a foot massage. I grabbed her neck ands started kissing her with lots of passion. She started to relax herself and my hands start to get busy. To bad she is from Lancaster and I don't have a car now. Ahhhh.Well the brat emailed me this morning trying to tease a $ out of me. I told the brat I would message her after work. Then after I turned her down she says, "oh I wasnt going to charge you". But I know that is BS and once she steps through the door the whining and begging will start. Tryin to think with the big head for a change. Then she says "oh and my period is going to start like tomorrow". Gee, too bad. But I still may give in. LOL
Most of you guys use a prepaid credit card for these site like you do with a burner phone for privacy reason? Thank you.Don't know about SA but a prepaid card is a must for sd4 m. The cancellation is very difficult, so it's best to just use up the funds on a prepaid and let the account not renew due to lack of funds rather than trying to cancel your account.
HollywoodGuy
11-03-15, 01:05
"actually, I've had more than 1 date for 1200, so what does that say about you? And I've never been offered less than $400 so maybe take that advice and forget about me. Goodbye".
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eeca5d0a/view
This girl is a 7 all around at best. There are some desperate guys out there for sure. Saying she has never been offered less than $$$$ is a lie for sure. But this is the shit you have to deal with everyday to stay in this game. And she lives in Lancaster. LOL
Just stay the course my brothers, because there is sexy, sexual, and pleasant to be around girl that cant wait to prove her worth for a $ or $$ everyday of the week. And if you like super hotties go with $$$ if you can afford it. They may not be super hot in bed but everyone will think you're a stud if you like to wine and dine.
ChickenHawk88
11-03-15, 01:44
"actually, I've had more than 1 date for 1200, so what does that say about you? And I've never been offered less than $400 so maybe take that advice and forget about me. Goodbye".
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eeca5d0a/view
This girl is a 7 all around at best. There are some desperate guys out there for sure. Saying she has never been offered less than $$$$ is a lie for sure. But this is the shit you have to deal with everyday to stay in this game. And she lives in Lancaster. LOL
Just stay the course my brothers, because there is sexy, sexual, and pleasant to be around girl that cant wait to prove her worth for a $ or $$ everyday of the week. And if you like super hotties go with $$$ if you can afford it. They may not be super hot in bed but everyone will think you're a stud if you like to wine and dine.Thanks HG for the words of wisdom. I guess some of you guys have the smooth talking and some got the looks. I was able to get some good chat on whisper but when I send my pic that's the end of it. There is still one from SA that I talk to but she dosent meet unless she really need it. We'll see how that goes.
HollywoodGuy
11-03-15, 02:44
Thanks HG for the words of wisdom. I guess some of you guys have the smooth talking and some got the looks. I was able to get some good chat on whisper but when I send my pic that's the end of it. There is still one from SA that I talk to but she dosent meet unless she really need it. We'll see how that goes.I would say there are looks and there is confidence. If you are lacking in one you need to try to shore up the other. So you could be a good looking asshole or an erudite and compassionate nerd (or whatever) and still be a success.
I talk & write for a living but due to time management issues I actually use a script when talking to POTS. I may vary it slightly to acknowledge that I have actually read their profile or their responses, but I still stick to the script. And I am constantly fine tuning the script based on feedback the same way I fine tune a national ad campaign with the feedback data I get from the advertiser. This fine tuning chore is a never ending process.
Thanks HG for the words of wisdom. I guess some of you guys have the smooth talking and some got the looks. I was able to get some good chat on whisper but when I send my pic that's the end of it. There is still one from SA that I talk to but she dosent meet unless she really need it. We'll see how that goes.I'm probably on the younger side for a SD, so that might also work in my favor, but my general approach is just to be polite and friendly. Even when a girl tries to insult my offer, I just tell we all have our own expectations and wish them luck.
I had a nice back and forth with one girl a week ago, but once we got down to business it was clear that we were far apart on compensation. She said that I was so refreshingly normal and fun to talk to that she was considering sleeping with me for free, haha. Of course it didn't happen, but it was nice to hear.
All that being said, just keep plugging away, man. It's a numbers game, in the long run.
Got a message form this one, but I am betting she is sending a blanket out and seeing what she can get. Have not heard back from her yet.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eabee8e01/view
The others I have been working on all came tumbling down. The good news is I know why. I always have great conversation with them but I have noticed that I try to avoid the M&G which is biting me in my ass. I sometimes have little patience as I rarely have free time to "work" the ladies. I believe this is why I preferred Pro's. There is no magic or question as to what is going to happen. I get in and get out at my discretion (most times). I am taking my time with a couple now and will see where this leads. Below are the ones I was working on in brief:
1. This one seems like a UTR to me. Wants $$. 50 for "however long I want" <-- her words. She is on the back burner.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eee3a7d7/view
2. I think another UTR has nice tits but communication is sparse. She was down for $. 20 for a couple hours. Searched pics and found twitter page which says she's form back east but she says she is from LA. IDK. Back burner for now.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ee69d0b11/view
3. This one I believe is a stripper / UTR and would not give me a price, we had a fun little convo but in the end she said I was asking too many questions. I blocked her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed4d793b/view?conversation-inbox
There are others I am working on. Sort of experimenting with until I find something I really want to pursue. I have athick older woman with very pretty face who wants me to come to her hotel tonight. She is in town on business and has ben pleasant so far. I asked about $ and she said "lets not complicate this any more than it needs to be, lets just vide". So we shall see where this goes. Awaiting confirmation for tonight.
John HandCock
11-03-15, 14:31
Got a message form this one, but I am betting she is sending a blanket out and seeing what she can get. Have not heard back from her yet.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eabee8e01/view
The others I have been working on all came tumbling down. The good news is I know why. I always have great conversation with them but I have noticed that I try to avoid the M&G which is biting me in my ass. I sometimes have little patience as I rarely have free time to "work" the ladies. I believe this is why I preferred Pro's. There is no magic or question as to what is going to happen. I get in and get out at my discretion (most times). I am taking my time with a couple now and will see where this leads. Below are the ones I was working on in brief:
1. This one seems like a UTR to me. Wants $$. 50 for "however long I want" <-- her words. She is on the back burner.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eee3a7d7/view
2. I think another UTR has nice tits but communication is sparse. She was down for $. 20 for a couple hours. Searched pics and found twitter page which says she's form back east but she says she is from LA. IDK. Back burner for now.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ee69d0b11/view
3. This one I believe is a stripper / UTR and would not give me a price, we had a fun little convo but in the end she said I was asking too many questions. I blocked her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed4d793b/view?conversation-inbox
There are others I am working on. Sort of experimenting with until I find something I really want to pursue. I have athick older woman with very pretty face who wants me to come to her hotel tonight. She is in town on business and has ben pleasant so far. I asked about $ and she said "lets not complicate this any more than it needs to be, lets just vide". So we shall see where this goes. Awaiting confirmation for tonight.Congratulations sir, excellent report with links and useful info. Keep up the good work.
3. This one I believe is a stripper / UTR and would not give me a price, we had a fun little convo but in the end she said I was asking too many questions. I blocked her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed4d793b/view?conversation-inboxYeah, I've been talking to her as well. We exchanged numbers and she seemed really into meeting up and then she vanished. Then randomly started a conversation again, but when I brought up meeting, she vanished again. She did confirm that she's a stripper, but wouldn't tell me the club.
HollywoodGuy
11-03-15, 15:18
3. This one I believe is a stripper / UTR and would not give me a price, we had a fun little convo but in the end she said I was asking too many questions. I blocked her.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ed4d793b/view?conversation-inboxI messaged with her a few times. Made her my final offer. And then no reply. Obviously it was less than she was hoping for, because the rest of the convo was pretty chill.
Yeah, I've been talking to her as well. We exchanged numbers and she seemed really into meeting up and then she vanished. Then randomly started a conversation again, but when I brought up meeting, she vanished again. She did confirm that she's a stripper, but wouldn't tell me the club.It doesn't matter what coast we're talking about, but strippers seem to have a common theme. Flakiness. They will plan something with you then not follow through, or it takes a few appointments to maybe actually get to meet. It amazing how consistent and across the board it is. That has been my experience.
HollywoodGuy
11-05-15, 02:01
One problem with the sugar game is sometimes you have to see a regular because you have an arrangement and part of that arrangement is frequency. So today I had to see my ATF from 10 am to 1 pm and then had to see my Hawaiian Princess from 4 pm to 9 pm. She is only here for a short time and this may have been the only day to see her without risking not seeing her at all.
I really didn't need that much FC time. It would be great if they always came on the day that was best for me, but that's not always the case. So sometimes you got to put out a little to keep everyone happy. With multiple babies (and UTR's are not babies) counting on you there are going to be times when you see someone when you really don't need to. I guess its sorta like fucking your baby in the day and then having to fuck your SO at night to keep the suspicion off. Even a UTR is going to be put off if you dont see her enough, but there is not much she can do about it, except ditch you. And a lot of them will if you cant see them semi regularly (this only applies if you are paying discount rates). An SB has to take precedence over a UTR most of the time. But the girls today were both babies so I was in a jam.
I don't have an SO but I do have an ATF and she is counting on those 2 dates a week to get paid. And I am sure my ATF (or any girl) would still like to get paid for doing nothing. But thats never a good precedent to set. So my second date wasn't as hot as it could have been but at least I got to see my princess after her being gone for 2 months and make sure we still had a connection. And it seems we do. I doubt I could get it up for anyone but a first date tomorrow and I have my usual friday nite date with my ATF. So it might be a good day to just do nothing or an M&G. I dont have unlimited juice these days, so scheduling is more critical than ever.
I met this one. She was nice, but a bit on the dull side personality wise. Doesn't look as good as her pictures as well.
You are too nice. A 7 ? More like a 5.
HollywoodGuy
11-05-15, 14:16
You are too nice. A 7 ? More like a 5.I always give slightly higher marks for any girl under 5'2". I think a 5 foot spinner would be close to one of my ideal desires. She is far from that. And always slightly higher marks for a 18 to 20. She was over that. But the whole point of the post was just the ridiculousness of her attitude. Actually my roommate confessed to me that prior to meeting me a guy did give her 12 hundred to have sex with her and he didn't even get it up. But she was so creeped out she didn't go back for a second date (which was offered).
So we guys here have to just understand that there can be mitigating circumstances when we get turned down sometimes. This is why I really like to catch them on the first day they sign up. There are some minuses to that. But if I look back over my most successful scores at least half were girls I managed to get to first. Before they got ruined in one way or another by someone else.
HeartofaLion
11-06-15, 05:24
Somehow I recuperated faster than I expected. Must have been that 9.5 hours of sleep I had last night. So I saw my new girl "N" again after work. She was looking cute today.And girl is really cute. I'm on the same page, younger girls should get more points. I really girls wearing skin tight leggings. More than all, how these girls dress cute for us.
HollywoodGuy
11-06-15, 19:43
And girl is really cute. I'm on the same page, younger girls should get more points. I really girls wearing skin tight leggings. More than all, how these girls dress cute for us.And she's a foot model. A good one.
HeartofaLion
11-07-15, 02:43
And she's a foot model. A good one.A foot model? Cool. How are her foot domination skills? LOL.
HollywoodGuy
11-07-15, 14:53
A foot model? Cool. How are her foot domination skills? LOL.She is an amateur. But she likes it, so what she lacks in learned skills she more than makes up for in natural ability (plus me teaching her).
HeartofaLion
11-07-15, 23:46
She is an amateur. But she likes it, so what she lacks in learned skills she more than makes up for in natural ability (plus me teaching her).The best thing is when we are on their their feet and the girl looks curious. Like she knows the power she has over doot men like us.
* by the way. Can anybody guide me? I'm meeting with this girl. Not even a non pro. I been waiting for her forba few months. Is hard when they have a bf LOL but she said she has no bf for 3 days.
Can somebody suggest a hotel around this ratio of Florence, Fig, Gage, and Broadway. . 20 to. 25 range. Remember guys. I'm walking.
HeartofaLion
11-08-15, 02:07
She is an amateur. But she likes it, so what she lacks in learned skills she more than makes up for in natural ability (plus me teaching her).I hope you are training her on trampling. That's a hot scene.
HollywoodGuy
11-08-15, 03:19
The best thing is when we are on their their feet and the girl looks curious. Like she knows the power she has over foot men like us.Especially when that power turns to appreciation, and you go straight from their feet to their pussy. You gotta love it.
Not into that. And I am actually one of the few dominant foot lovers out there as far as I can tell. I know there are others, but it does put me in the minority. On rare occasions I have gotten it in reverse. Usually in the form of massages, but not always. This was one of the few freebie girls I met on SA a while back. She had a pretty strong foot and sock fetish. But she is long gone now.This one from SA as well? Around the $ range?
HollywoodGuy
11-09-15, 13:56
This one from SA as well? Around the $ range?Yes. I start every girl at a $. And they are all from SA these days. Anything over that lately seems to be going to uber. But that girl was a freebie except for the room cost which was .7 for a hojo's in the sgv. So she was free but the date wasn't. Still a great deal. Think she moved to the desert.
Yes. I start every girl at a $. And they are all from SA these days. Anything over that lately seems to be going to uber. But that girl was a freebie except for the room cost which was .7 for a hojo's in the sgv. So she was free but the date wasn't. Still a great deal. Think she moved to the desert.Wish I had the flexibility man but hey you can't beat free. I got a freebie on Friday from a civi. I had a M&G setup with a plump Latina in Glendale but cancelled because I got lucky with a hot Armenian MILF who I chatted up at our company's quarterly breakfast. She was one of the servers for the catered event. Sex was decent as she was not shy and let me hit it however I wanted. Bad part was the BJ was lacking heavily. I am almost certain she is married as she was very cautious entering and exiting the vehicle and hotel. I checked my text while we were getting a breather and she freaked, thinking I was taking pics. After I calmed her down and finished on her face (which she took like a champ) we exchanged numbers. Funny thing is she asked me not to txt her unless she txt first. She claims its work related but whatever haha. Unfortunately I did not get the Latina who I wanted to nail with Huge tits but She did just fine as her ass was plump, round and nice but chest was a small "A" with small nips. Oh well I didn't pay so I can't complain. Trying to get the Latina tonight, I want to suck those boobies. I will see how that goes.
HollywoodGuy
11-10-15, 01:46
My roommate got a profile on eHarmony for 3 months and has me running it. What a giant pain in the ass website. And talk about scammy. Too many issues to list. I am sure getting laid off of there would be an expensive chore.
HeartofaLion
11-10-15, 05:33
Not into that. And I am actually one of the few dominant foot lovers out there as far as I can tell. I know there are others, but it does put me in the minority. On rare occasions I have gotten it in reverse. Usually in the form of massages, but not always. This was one of the few freebie girls I met on SA a while back. She had a pretty strong foot and sock fetish. But she is long gone now.Hehe a girl suckinfg my toes? LOL. Not into that. And by the way, trampling can be enjoyed for dominant guys too.
By the way, today I had this Facebrook girl message me if I like her. I have been commenting on her provocative pic lately. She asked me if I wanted to be her sugar daddy. I sensed she needed money. We talked about an arrangement and she asked for 3. 00 for a date LOL. I wanted. 80 (was ready to offer 1. 00 too). I told her I can get better deal for less. She responded.
" I'm sure not as good as me".
And I told her.
" that is something I would never know because I'm sure not paying that much.
With 3. 00 I can invest it in a private small foot party (I know where to find the models and most of time extra activities happens) get $ back. I had done it before LOL.
Luckily, found another girl looking to make some $ and she was doing. 70 she is petite and looks like a cute normal girl.
P.S. I kind of like seeing these non-pro pix on their FB before asking the big question.
HollywoodGuy
11-11-15, 04:33
I think I need a rest.
HollywoodGuy
11-11-15, 04:37
Hehe a girl suckinfg my toes? LOL. Not into that. And by the way, trampling can be enjoyed for dominant guys too.
By the way, today I had this Facebrook girl message me if I like her. I have been commenting on her provocative pic lately. She asked me if I wanted to be her sugar daddy. I sensed she needed money. We talked about an arrangement and she asked for 3. 00 for a date LOL. I wanted. 80 (was ready to offer 1. 00 too). I told her I can get better deal for less. She responded.
" I'm sure not as good as me".
And I told her.
" that is something I would never know because I'm sure not paying that much.
With 3. 00 I can invest it in a private small foot party (I know where to find the models and most of time extra activities happens) get $ back. I had done it before LOL.
Luckily, found another girl looking to make some $ and she was doing. 70 she is petite and looks like a cute normal girl.
P.S. I kind of like seeing these non-pro pix on their FB before asking the big question.Never met a girl off of FB. But good work dude. Because it is work. Today a fresh 18 year old said I insulted her because I said she was worth at most $$ and she got 18 hundred (one time only of course) for a no sex date. But today I saw two girls for a total of 9 hours out of which like 2 and a half was in the FC. And then my roommate came home at 11 pm, so all we had time for, was for me to masturbate her to sleep. Life goes on.
Stallion6007
11-11-15, 09:21
Not into that. And I am actually one of the few dominant foot lovers out there as far as I can tell. I know there are others, but it does put me in the minority. On rare occasions I have gotten it in reverse. Usually in the form of massages, but not always. This was one of the few freebie girls I met on SA a while back. She had a pretty strong foot and sock fetish. But she is long gone now.I've only been lucky enough twice to meet a gal into feet as much as I am. Nice find. Bummer she's not around any more. Foot ladies are the real "unicorns" IMO. - Stallion.
HollywoodGuy
11-11-15, 17:06
I've only been lucky enough twice to meet a gal into feet as much as I am. Nice find. Bummer she's not around any more. Foot ladies are the real "unicorns" IMO. - Stallion.I love foot model first timers. They are the best because its all new and exciting for them. And gives you a window to get to them on a deeper level. My ATF is not into it, but my little girl "N" and my Hawaiian Princess who I just saw yesterday are. The bratty princess likes to act all cool yet she goes out of her way quietly to get the details right to make me happy. My little girl "N" is already going proactive on me. LOL.
Sidenote. Collarme is now collarspace. Already ran across one pro sub from there over at SA. She is asking crazy and almost funny amounts. I think she is done with me, but I told her some girls have sub needs equal to or greater than my $ donation amount. I doubt it will budge her though. The key to getting NP girls to accept that $ donation is to get into their head. Otherwise why should they take less than the $$ or $$$ they know most guys are paying?
Had two FC sessions and a M&G last weekend:
Saturday night my plans fell through, so I was just browsing through SA when I struck up a conversation with a hot 19 year old black girl. Thin but with huge tits. Pretty face. We exchanged numbers and started getting down to brass tacks. She asked for 300 and I politely declined and told her to have a good night. She quickly hit me back and asked what I was willing to give and I countered with the standard 100. We settled on 150. I then brought up that I don't like using protection, to which she protested again. Told her no biggie and to have a good night. She relented and I offered to pick her up.
Picked her up and she was dressed very plainly, which I suppose is good for discretion, but not very titillating. She also reeked of weed. Thankfully, she was the girl from the pics, albeit not done up, which is a shame. She ended up being very chatty and friendly, which was a relief.
Drove down to the FC and got down to business. Some light kissing turned to stripping. This girl is super thin but her tits were outrageous. Double Ds. Soft and saggy, but it almost seemed biologically impossible for her to have such a huge chest on a tiny body.
She also had one of the tightest pussies I've ever encountered. I got her nice and wet and it was still a struggle to fully enter her. It felt so great that I almost came 5 times within the first 5 minutes. We didn't go at it very long, because eventually I just couldn't hold it. Nice girl, hot as hell, but she was kind of a dead fish, plus the idea of having to pick her up or send an uber every time seemed annoying. I'll probably pass.
Sunday afternoon had a M&G with a cute, nerdy 18 year old black girl who lived way up in the Valley. She was very cool, but I think she's using SA as more like a dating site than anything else. Throughout the day I had been texting with a slim 21 year old Latina. Sent me some hot nudes, wanted to have a regular SD / fuck buddy and was willing to drive to my place. She wanted 400, countered with the usual 100. She asked for another 50 for gas and promised that she'd rock my world.
She ended up being pretty and slim, just the way I like them. Very friendly and affectionate to start. Knew how to rub her body and place her hands in the right way. Maybe used to be a stripper? Started off with some light kissing and then to the bedroom. We got naked and I embraced her and here's where the wheels started to fall off. She ran out to grab a condom. I should have confirmed no cover, but since I hadn't, I didn't want to push it. She puts it on immediately (so no BBBJ) and gives a lame BJ. I move down to start oral and she says no. At this point I'm losing wood due to the mood being killed, so I decide to throw it in and just hope for the best. She's clearly faking it and won't kiss me anymore. After some half hearted sex, I just pull out and finish myself off. She's suddenly very affectionate again and goes on about what a great time we just had, etc. , when it was in fact some of the worst sex I've ever had. She wants to see me again soon, I keep it vague.
In other news, the two girls from my threesome finally got back to me after almost a month of unreturned texts / phone calls / messages. Not sure why they were incommunicado to begin with, but we might get together this weekend. I'm definitely wary now though. I'll need to find out why I was getting the silent treatment for so long after a seemingly fun, mutually beneficial time.
Not sure if this is entirely appropriate to post, but I thought it was fascinating. When I first started on SA a couple months ago, came across an absolutely gorgeous mixed girl. Tall, killer body, beautiful face. I hit her up a couple times, but she never responded. Way out of my league anyway. She eventually deleted her account.
Then a couple weeks ago, I saw her on Tinder. She had a unique enough first name and provided a couple nuggets of info that I eventually found her profile on fb. Scrolling through her pics, I came across a family photo. Her father looked awfully familiar to me until I finally realized that he was a former NBA star from the 90's! Not a Hall of Famer, but definitely someone the average fan would know.
Anyway, random story, but thought this community might appreciate it.
(Please do not contact me asking who the player or girl is, because I won't respond).
One problem with the sugar game is sometimes you have to see a regular because you have an arrangement and part of that arrangement is frequency. So today I had to see my ATF from 10 am to 1 pm and then had to see my Hawaiian Princess from 4 pm to 9 pm. She is only here for a short time and this may have been the only day to see her without risking not seeing her at all.
I really didn't need that much FC time. It would be great if they always came on the day that was best for me, but that's not always the case. So sometimes you got to put out a little to keep everyone happy. With multiple babies (and UTR's are not babies) counting on you there are going to be times when you see someone when you really don't need to. I guess its sorta like fucking your baby in the day and then having to fuck your SO at night to keep the suspicion off. Even a UTR is going to be put off if you dont see her enough, but there is not much she can do about it, except ditch you. And a lot of them will if you cant see them semi regularly (this only applies if you are paying discount rates). An SB has to take precedence over a UTR most of the time. But the girls today were both babies so I was in a jam.
I don't have an SO but I do have an ATF and she is counting on those 2 dates a week to get paid. And I am sure my ATF (or any girl) would still like to get paid for doing nothing. But thats never a good precedent to set. So my second date wasn't as hot as it could have been but at least I got to see my princess after her being gone for 2 months and make sure we still had a connection. And it seems we do. I doubt I could get it up for anyone but a first date tomorrow and I have my usual friday nite date with my ATF. So it might be a good day to just do nothing or an M&G. I dont have unlimited juice these days, so scheduling is more critical than ever.I am running into this as well as I have basically 3 SB's and all of them are far away. Luckily I am not bound to a allowance with them but it points up the challenges. I have to text them a lot because for them it's the connection is more emotional. But it's been pretty cool. I had one 18 yr old from Friday afternoon though Saturday afternoon for 175. We had a great time. She has the most gorgeous pussy. No lie. You will see pics soon. She very sexual although lacking with some skills she is wiling to learn. She was crazy tight because it has been so long since she had intercourse. Is she a ten in looks? Nope. Is she great company? Yep. And she is 18 and letting me fuck her as much as I want. That is fine for me!
HollywoodGuy
11-13-15, 17:47
I am running into this as well as I have basically 3 SB's and all of them are far away. Luckily I am not bound to a allowance with them but it points up the challenges. I have to text them a lot because for them it's the connection is more emotional. But it's been pretty cool. I had one 18 yr old from Friday afternoon though Saturday afternoon for 175. We had a great time. She has the most gorgeous pussy. No lie. You will see pics soon. She very sexual although lacking with some skills she is wiling to learn. She was crazy tight because it has been so long since she had intercourse. Is she a ten in looks? Nope. Is she great company? Yep. And she is 18 and letting me fuck her as much as I want. That is fine for me!An 18 year old with a pretty pussy? Got to get high marks for that. My 21 year old girl "N" isn't all that from the waist to the neckline, but her pussy and ass are awesome, almost TGTBT (and she is cute enough). So I keep coming back for more.
And she is a good contrast to my ATF. My ATF more than anything wants a good pounding, but my girl "N" likes a lot more DATY, so it all balances out. Right now they are my mainstays. My roommate is moving out any day now. So I am back on the hunt and going to give my X SB/GF another try. So today I sent out a lot of intro letters on SA. All it takes is one winner to keep things going for a few more months. I have a pretty awsome UTR latina also with an amazing ass and pussy, but she just upped her rate to $.5 from a $. Haven't called her back but I may have to in the short term. We only had 5 dates, but they were all good and no drama.
HollywoodGuy
11-13-15, 19:28
I know guys look for SB's all over the place. But for sure eHarmony can't be one of them. My roomy got a profile on there. Its set up in a way that would never work if you were looking to hook-up. Period.
I would say there are looks and there is confidence. If you are lacking in one you need to try to shore up the other. So you could be a good looking asshole or an erudite and compassionate nerd (or whatever) and still be a success.
I talk & write for a living but due to time management issues I actually use a script when talking to POTS. I may vary it slightly to acknowledge that I have actually read their profile or their responses, but I still stick to the script. And I am constantly fine tuning the script based on feedback the same way I fine tune a national ad campaign with the feedback data I get from the advertiser. This fine tuning chore is a never ending process.I have followed HG's advice and been happily successful. I am not good looking, young, or in shape. BUT I dress very nicely, am always polite and try to make them laugh and take them to a nice dinner or lunch, and by "nice" so far it has never been a high end place. A lot of these girls have zero experience with even a decent night out. It's terrible but works in our favor.
My roommate got a profile on eHarmony for 3 months and has me running it. What a giant pain in the ass website. And talk about scammy. Too many issues to list. I am sure getting laid off of there would be an expensive chore.I did get laid off of there but it was relationship laid. I can't complain about it. She was really sexual and had multiple orgasms. We were together for two years. So that kind of laid has its benefits and we were having it so frequently, didn't need others.
Member #5616
11-14-15, 13:14
An 18 year old with a pretty pussy? Got to get high marks for that. My 21 year old girl "N" isn't all that from the waist to the neckline, but her pussy and ass are awesome, almost TGTBT (and she is cute enough). So I keep coming back for more.
And she is a good contrast to my ATF. My ATF more than anything wants a good pounding, but my girl "N" likes a lot more DATY, so it all balances out. Right now they are my mainstays. My roommate is moving out any day now. So I am back on the hunt and going to give my X SB/GF another try. So today I sent out a lot of intro letters on SA. All it takes is one winner to keep things going for a few more months. I have a pretty awsome UTR latina also with an amazing ass and pussy, but she just upped her rate to $.5 from a $. Haven't called her back but I may have to in the short term. We only had 5 dates, but they were all good and no drama.Hey Hg, how often do you get Latina on SA to agree to $. I was thinking of making an account soon to target Latina. Thank you.
HollywoodGuy
11-14-15, 15:02
Hey Hg, how often do you get Latina on SA to agree to $. I was thinking of making an account soon to target Latina. Thank you.Rarely, unless you like thick latinas. Then its no problem at all. But I like spinners or at least HWP on the slender side. I never really thought about it. But there are a ton of pretty and love to fuck thick latinas on there for a $.. I just cant get interested in a repeat no matter how good they are. So for all the work it takes to get one. I at least wanna try to get someone I would hope to see again.
Had a busy Saturday. Had a dinner date planned with a cute 19 year old Latina who lived east of the city. Confirmed that she was definitely up for FWB, so I booked a hotel since I was going to be an hour from my usual location. As chance would have it, one of the girls I had my threesome with (who also lived in the area) contacted me and said she and her friend were interested in meeting again (this is after weeks of unreturned texts and phone calls).
I headed over to the hotel as early as possible, checked in, and then picked up the girls. They were as hot as ever and apologized for being out of touch. They claimed they were a little weirded out by the first experience, but then decided that they enjoyed it and wanted to try again.
The sex was amazing and this time we didn't bother with protection, which was heavenly. Despite claiming to be practically lesbians, they really seemed to love the cock. They were moaning and yelling so loudly that I was sure someone was going to call the front desk. I would've loved to spend more time with them, but I had to get to the dinner date.
Cleaned up and picked up the new girl and yikes, she was thick. She did a good job of hiding it in her photos and accentuating her face (which is very pretty). She was very sweet and affectionate however. After dinner we went to the hotel and frankly, my heart (and dick) weren't that into it. After the marathon threesome, I just didn't have much to give and her body type didn't turn me on. We engaged in a lot of kissing and petting and then I drove her home.
So the good news is that I at least got multiple uses out of the hotel and (more importanly), reconnected with my threesome partners. Bad news is that I dropped a good chunk of change on a dinner that went nowhere.
HollywoodGuy
11-16-15, 17:43
Best condom overall. Kimono Microthin. Comes in regular and large. On ebay for as low as 60 cents each and virtually no smell.
I tried like 10 different brands? I am only going bare with my ATF or any guaranteed lonely girls with current STD results. I even had my ATF tested.
I had three scares in the last year. All turned out to be false alarms, but I am done with that. I even got as close as one girl giving it to her BF but somehow I dodged the bullet.
HollywoodGuy
11-16-15, 17:57
Cleaned up and picked up the new girl and yikes, she was thick. She did a good job of hiding it in her photos and accentuating her face (which is very pretty). She was very sweet and affectionate however.On SA if I don't see a full body pic (and not in some contorted way to hide her true figure), she better send me one or I will not meet her. And a lot of girls that fall short in the the looks dept many times do have very sweet personalities or BJ skills to compensate. Great report.
I wrote a very long report and then I guess forgot to hit upload. Far too lazy to write it all again. Met with a AF 21 yr from SA after several weeks of texting and one time talking on the phone where I laid out my deal and she replied, "Oh, you don't have to pay me for a hand job, dinner's fine. " Had seen a pic to know she had a nice body but little did I realize! We have Korean BBQ and then head back to my place. She immediately takes off her boats and lays on the bed and her form fitting dress rides up under her perfect ass, nice and round but not flabby. I go in and start massaging and kissing that piece of art and she is always moaning. The clothes come off and she has a perfect body for my tastes. 34 C's flat tummy, cute shaved pussy and an ass to die for. I move up to these breasts that are, yes, perfect. Nipples already hard as can be. I spend a lot of time here and she say, "Come on, fuck me. " But I have many other ideas first. I go down her and her pussy is fresh and crazy tight. She gets nice and wet and is writhing and saying nasty shit. None of which came across in the restaurant, which makes it better. She saves it.
She gives me head and she's fine, enthusiastic but needs guidance which she followed well. The one downside is she doesn't do BBBJ so the cover went on then. Then we start fucking and it's crazy good. She very flexible and squats on top and just rides me like no tomorrow. I flip her into mission and fuck her for quite a while and her legs are up over my shoulders. I push them back and am pile driving into her with her legs almost back to her ears. We slow down and play a little and then she gets back on top and we are just staring at each other as we fuck. Flip her into doggie which was so wonderful with that beautiful ass and small hips to grab onto and thrust her back on my cock. All the time, she is telling me how handsome I am and how much she loves being fucked by me. She tells me she want me to come from this position and so I take my time nice and slow and come in the bag. We lay next to other having great conversation. She says she has to go and I swear she wasn't even thinking of the money. She never asked and was about to head out the door, when I gave her some money for the week. We are hopefully seeing each other in a couple days.
On SA if I don't see a full body pic (and not in some contorted way to hide her true figure), she better send me one or I will not meet her. And a lot of girls that fall short in the the looks dept many times do have very sweet personalities or BJ skills to compensate. Great report.Yeah, I'm usually pretty careful with that. With this girl, I could tell she was a little plump from the photos (bare arms were a dead giveaway) and she admitted she was thick, but she was way heavier than I anticipated. Thankfully the hotel and trip wasn't a total loss, thanks to my afternoon delight (and complimentary room service breakfast).
HollywoodGuy
11-18-15, 21:42
Yeah, I'm usually pretty careful with that. With this girl, I could tell she was a little plump from the photos (bare arms were a dead giveaway) and she admitted she was thick, but she was way heavier than I anticipated. Thankfully the hotel and trip wasn't a total loss, thanks to my afternoon delight (and complimentary room service breakfast).Its funny. The first thing I always look at is a girls arms. If they're thick in any way that's usually a pretty good indicator to start with.
So after my incredible experience on Monday, it was time for the universe to find balance. I had been feeling bad that I hadn't seen my San be 18 in quite a while. The truth being out of the four SB's I have met she is the least attractive, although gives the best head. She is by far the most immature of the bunch as well and refers to me as her boyfriend which makes me feel kind of guilty. She knows I see other women, but I think she has put it out of her mind. Her schedule is nuts with two jobs and Jr. College. We decide to meet this morning which means I have to drive out yesterday and pay for a room. No problem, I get a pretty good deal. We talk last night and she is very excited to see me. We only have from 8 until noon. But we will make good use of it. Shiest me a picture of a guy performing cunilingus from behind. I think " This will be fun. It has been a while.
I get a text this morning that says "I started my period. " Her periods are irregular and she's taking birth control but I don't think she remembers to take it. Anyway, I tell her to come over anyway. I figure we can still have some fun and she can certainly give me head. But. She. Is. Eighteen. And she is tired and she doesn't feel well and she doesn't want to and no amount or kind of convincing with budge her. She gets off twice by dry humping me and I get nada. She went in for a few moments and then just stopped and I pulled away from her. She asked if I was mad and I said I was disappointed. Then she started to cry. Then we got through that. And made out and she came again and I try again but no dice. So we just sleep for a while. I have empathy for her, she was not feeling well but is a hell of a commitment on my part to make the drive and pay for the room for a maybe. In the long run, I look at this as a good thing because I wanted to wind this one down due to the distance. I can put this one on the back burner and she'll either get pissed or be really open when I see her next time. I'd be fine letting her go.
HollywoodGuy
11-19-15, 01:36
So after my incredible experience on Monday, it was time for the universe to find balance. I had been feeling bad that I hadn't seen my San be 18 in quite a while. The truth being out of the four SB's I have met she is the least attractive, although gives the best head. She is by far the most immature of the bunch as well and refers to me as her boyfriend which makes me feel kind of guilty. She knows I see other women, but I think she has put it out of her mind. Her schedule is nuts with two jobs and Jr. College. We decide to meet this morning which means I have to drive out yesterday and pay for a room. No problem, I get a pretty good deal. We talk last night and she is very excited to see me. We only have from 8 until noon. But we will make good use of it. Shiest me a picture of a guy performing cunilingus from behind. I think " This will be fun. It has been a while.
I get a text this morning that says "I started my period. " Her periods are irregular and she's taking birth control but I don't think she remembers to take it. Anyway, I tell her to come over anyway. I figure we can still have some fun and she can certainly give me head. But. She. Is. Eighteen. And she is tired and she doesn't feel well and she doesn't want to and no amount or kind of convincing with budge her. She gets off twice by dry humping me and I get nada. She went in for a few moments and then just stopped and I pulled away from her. She asked if I was mad and I said I was disappointed. Then she started to cry. Then we got through that. And made out and she came again and I try again but no dice. So we just sleep for a while. I have empathy for her, she was not feeling well but is a hell of a commitment on my part to make the drive and pay for the room for a maybe. In the long run, I look at this as a good thing because I wanted to wind this one down due to the distance. I can put this one on the back burner and she'll either get pissed or be really open when I see her next time. I'd be fine letting her go.I have a spreadsheet of all my girls period dates going back a year. Good info to have. Because even they forget. And they always look at that as a sign of caring. Try it and see for yourself.
HollywoodGuy
11-19-15, 03:14
Anorexic - 12 - 13
Spinner - 14 - 17
Swimsuit model - 18 - 19
Athletic - 20 - 21
A little thick - 22 - 23
Small bbw - 24 - 25
Any girl over 25 better be an 18 or 19 y.o. with a pretty face and some BJ skills to match.
Just my opinion.
I have a spreadsheet of all my girls period dates going back a year. Good info to have. Because even they forget. And they always look at that as a sign of caring. Try it and see for yourself.Like Hollywood, I keep track using an app for planning. I quiz them about how long their cycles are and the timing to make sure I am not falling on the wrong side of the bloodletting. Here's an example why you have to do it:
I drove 2 hrs to see my ATF at the moment. When I got there she told me her period started and she was not in the mood for sex. Well, that was not acceptable for me so I gave her two choices 1) no allowance but I would stay over and we can mess around or 2) business as usual-put a towel down on the bed and let her rip. Well, she got in the mood. I kinda like fucking a girl on her period as long as there is a shower nearby. It can be a mess but they can be horny at that time of the month. It is also good for cramps if you can get them over it.
TiigerLilly.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e0a7bc08/view?search-recently-active
"I am just seeing your message on SA. Sorry its taken me so long to respond. I'm just getting adjusted to the west coast. I am interested in hanging out to get to know you. My expectations range in the more practical $1,500 - $3,000 per visit. I give excellent massages and make good eye candy. See you sooner than later".
I think this breaks my all time high per visit offer from a girl on SA.I think she mistook Practical for "per visit" rather than "per month".
HollywoodGuy
11-19-15, 18:05
I think she mistook Practical for "per visit" rather than "per month".I agree, but either way I didn't see a $ a visit in her plans. Plus the phrase "arm candy" is usually just code for gold digger. I just gave her my copy and paste "that would be out of my league. But thanks for responding. And good luck in your search". I routinely get thousand dollar a date proposals that are not typos. Damn that charlie sheen. You know that Bree has a profile on SA. Messaged her twice asking for her rates. No reply. I guess if you have to ask you cant afford her. Too bad as she is one of my fav's.
HollywoodGuy
11-19-15, 18:08
Like Hollywood, I keep track using an app for planning. I quiz them about how long their cycles are and the timing to make sure I am not falling on the wrong side of the bloodletting. Here's an example why you have to do it:
I drove 2 hrs to see my ATF at the moment. When I got there she told me her period started and she was not in the mood for sex. Well, that was not acceptable for me so I gave her two choices 1) no allowance but I would stay over and we can mess around or 2) business as usual-put a towel down on the bed and let her rip. Well, she got in the mood. I kinda like fucking a girl on her period as long as there is a shower nearby. It can be a mess but they can be horny at that time of the month. It is also good for cramps if you can get them over it.This month all three of my regulars are slated to "flow" between the 20th and the 25th. Time management and opportunity costs must be considered. And I hate jerking off. Luckily my ATF is pretty "light" so it hasnt been a deal breaker. But the other two are no way jose until its over.
HeartofaLion
11-19-15, 18:27
I agree, but either way I didn't see a $ a visit in her plans. Plus the phrase "arm candy" is usually just code for gold digger. I just gave her my copy and paste "that would be out of my league. But thanks for responding. And good luck in your search". I routinely get thousand dollar a date proposals that are not typos. Damn that charlie sheen. You know that Bree has a profile on SA. Messaged her twice asking for her rates. No reply. I guess if you have to ask you cant afford her. Too bad as she is one of my fav's.You meant the girl who shoots x-videos? Maybe you should book for her for a video shoot. Make that foot related. You could also join with somebody who shoots videos and that is interested to shoot wit her. Once you meet hr. Boom. It would be all in your hands.
HollywoodGuy
11-20-15, 03:51
You meant the girl who shoots x-videos? Maybe you should book for her for a video shoot. Make that foot related. You could also join with somebody who shoots videos and that is interested to shoot wit her. Once you meet hr. Boom. It would be all in your hands.Dude that girl is way out of my league and yours too. She was one of the truly successful actors in the porn industry. And I am sure still makes as much or more than I do.
On another note. I am counting the days till my roommate leaves. So I am actively talking to girls on SA again. This time I am taking a really slow approach so as to be able to get exactly what I want. My ATF has me really spoiled. So the bar is high. But not too high as to be unable to find some fun and willing partners. I am already setting up a few M&G's for after the 1st of December.
I am finding that the top level category to get what I want is DD/lg. Once I find that I can pretty much get what it is I'm looking for, as the main purpose is to teach and guide the girl to please her Daddy. It's really all I've been doing for the last 3 years. Anything (but obviously not everything) else is just too vanilla for me most of the time. But I am not kicking any hotties out of bed just because they want to be treated like the adults they are. It's like I used to tell the girls "yeah, I am perverted, but never creepy".
Like the song says "heaven is a place on earth".
I have a spreadsheet of all my girls period dates going back a year. Good info to have. Because even they forget. And they always look at that as a sign of caring. Try it and see for yourself.That's a great suggestion, I will try it. The problem with this particular girl is her periods are all over the place. Which I thought being on birth control fixed. But not in this case. I did end up spending time with your recommended, lovely "and" and so it wasn't a wasted day.
HollywoodGuy
11-20-15, 17:04
That's a great suggestion, I will try it. The problem with this particular girl is her periods are all over the place. Which I thought being on birth control fixed. But not in this case. I did end up spending time with your recommended, lovely "N" and so it wasn't a wasted day.Yeah, and I have backed off of her for the moment due to too many work and girl related commitments. She isn't too happy about it, but oh well.
Hey brother,
Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated. I've gone international. Don't really have time for the sugar bowl when I'm in country. All of my adventures are off shore now. Don't have much to share for this area other than insights into techniques and phycology. But techniques for penetrating non-pros transcend boarders. Bring your language skills. Women are communicators. And you need to communicate with them in their language to get POF (panties on floor).
For all who don't know HG was my mentor in the sugarworld when I moved to the west coast. He taught me how to get my CPO (cost per orgasm) down to $ or less at times.
Big props to you my man.
Any girl over 25 better be an 18 or 19 y.o. with a pretty face and some BJ skills to match. Just my opinion.Damn right my brother! I tell all my girls that if they get any bigger than when I met them. That's it. No mas para mi.
Hey brother,
Reports of my demise are greatly exaggerated. I've gone international. Don't really have time for the sugar bowl when I'm in country. All of my adventures are off shore now. Don't have much to share for this area other than insights into techniques and phycology. But techniques for penetrating non-pros transcend boarders. Bring your language skills. Women are communicators. And you need to communicate with them in their language to get POF (panties on floor).
For all who don't know HG was my mentor in the sugarworld when I moved to the west coast. He taught me how to get my CPO (cost per orgasm) down to $ or less at times.
Big props to you my man.It's borders, not boarders, whom are people that are getting onto something, such as they boarded the train.
HollywoodGuy
11-20-15, 21:43
It's borders, not boarders, whom are people that are getting onto something, such as they boarded the train.Boarders, whoreders, mortars, quarters?
I'm sure there's a rap song about buying pussy in Syria somewhere in there.
So SubC how is the international pussy. Got any pics?
We can't let this thread devolve like another one I wont mention.
But good grammar, spelling and proper etiquette are always appreciated.
Boarders, whoreders, mortars, quarters? We can't let this thread devolve like another one I wont mention. But good grammar, spelling and proper etiquette are always appreciated.Ok my brothers, while certain people are playing editor and giving me spelling lessons. I'll continue to be a IP (International Player) with a CPO well under $/2. (Do the math).
Six girl harem. Ugliest is a 7. Best one is a 10 (That's on the international scale not the US scale. Add two to my ratings for the USA attractiveness equivalent). Age range: 21 - 38. I provide for my entire harem on the US equivalent of (x < 5 * $/ month). Pictures? I'll step back now and let the resident english professor show me what his harem looks like.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
It's borders, not boarders, whom are people that are getting onto something, such as they boarded the train.My bad! I made a typo after seven months of writing very little english. In fact as I type this I'm chatting with my girls in another language using whatsapp. Thank you for pointing it out to me. Now can we stop with the pointless bickering and get back to the PAM (Pussy Aquisition Methods)?
My point is that the techniques discussed here transcend borders with a few adjustments for cultural differences. And if you have some language skills your success rate dramatically improves. The algorithms guiding my MSM (Moisture Seeking Missile) has been very successful in putting my payload on target. Only one miss so far. But like I said in my previous post. My adventures are off shore and my experiences are very different from the ones I have had here.
My bad! I made a typo after seven months of writing very little english. In fact as I type this I'm chatting with my girls in another language using whatsapp. Thank you for pointing it out to me. Now can we stop with the pointless bickering and get back to the PAM (Pussy Aquisition Methods)?
My point is that the techniques discussed here transcend borders with a few adjustments for cultural differences. And if you have some language skills your success rate dramatically improves. The algorithms guiding my MSM (Moisture Seeking Missile) has been very successful in putting my payload on target. Only one miss so far. But like I said in my previous post. My adventures are off shore and my experiences are very different from the ones I have had here.I enjoyed your post no matter how your words were spelled. Thanks for dropping by and saying hello.
HollywoodGuy
11-21-15, 03:24
My bad! I made a typo after seven months of writing very little english. In fact as I type this I'm chatting with my girls in another language using whatsapp. Thank you for pointing it out to me. Now can we stop with the pointless bickering and get back to the PAM (Pussy Aquisition Methods)?
My point is that the techniques discussed here transcend borders with a few adjustments for cultural differences. And if you have some language skills your success rate dramatically improves. The algorithms guiding my MSM (Moisture Seeking Missile) has been very successful in putting my payload on target. Only one miss so far. But like I said in my previous post. My adventures are off shore and my experiences are very different from the ones I have had here.Is that all in the DR?
HollywoodGuy
11-21-15, 03:31
Ok my brothers, while certain people are playing editor and giving me spelling lessons. I'll continue to be a IP (International Player) with a CPO well under $/2. (Do the math).
Six girl harem. Ugliest is a 7. Best one is a 10 (That's on the international scale not the US scale. Add two to my ratings for the USA attractiveness equivalent). Age range: 21 - 38. I provide for my entire harem on the US equivalent of (x < 5 * $/ month). Pictures? I'll step back now and let the resident english professor show me what his harem looks like.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.Sadly my harem is down to two. Luckily they are exact opposites so I am getting some added coverage. But the other necessities of life have been looming large. And no need to post any more pics of them as there are so many posted already. Have to wait till next month to have anything new. I may make an exception for turkey day as it will be a dress up affair.
Is that all in the DR?Si, mi hermano (Yes, my brother).
HollywoodGuy
11-22-15, 01:03
Hey PG. I accidentally deleted your post. But to reply. There are many good girls in the OC. Focus on the Anaheim area. And sorry about that.
Pinche Gringo
11-22-15, 01:31
Deleted my post? WHY? Hahahaha Will try to focus more on Anaheim. Will let you know how it goes.
HollywoodGuy
11-22-15, 14:42
Deleted my post? WHY? Hahahaha Will try to focus more on Anaheim. Will let you know how it goes.Why? Because when you are the moderator of a thread the links you see for replying and editing are slightly different then the ones you see when you are NOT a moderator. So just out out habit as a user I clicked on the wrong link. Just an honest mistake after a couple drinks. Sorry again.
Christophe1
11-22-15, 17:46
Why? Because when you are the moderator of a thread the links you see for replying and editing are slightly different then the ones you see when you are NOT a moderator. So just out out habit as a user I clicked on the wrong link. Just an honest mistake after a couple drinks. Sorry again.Hey! I thought you stopped drinking 20 years ago. Maybe I'm mistaken.
Be safe. You can delete this too. :)
Pinche Gringo
11-22-15, 18:00
I was just playing with you dude. No worries from me at all. The only worries I have are all the SB's wanting unrealistic allowances.
Why? Because when you are the moderator of a thread the links you see for replying and editing are slightly different then the ones you see when you are NOT a moderator. So just out out habit as a user I clicked on the wrong link. Just an honest mistake after a couple drinks. Sorry again.
Why? Because when you are the moderator of a thread the links you see for replying and editing are slightly different then the ones you see when you are NOT a moderator. So just out out habit as a user I clicked on the wrong link. Just an honest mistake after a couple drinks. Sorry again.It happens. I've deleted a few from the EC threads by mistake.
HollywoodGuy
11-22-15, 20:00
Hey! I thought you stopped drinking 20 years ago. Maybe I'm mistaken.
Be safe. You can delete this too. :)I stopped being a drunk 18 years ago. I have one now and then if I can't get right to sleep. I have become what those folks don't like. A normal functioning person that can have a drink (but only if there is sex or sleep involved) and not suddenly fall off the wagon or worse. I never seem to want more than one. But even that one gets me tipsy. Two and I'm already sick. Somehow I became allergic to it. But I did go to meetings and have 4 years sober before I realized I wasn't that person anymore.
Kind of like sex. Although I used to get pretty anxious if I didnt have a date on any given day. Lately I been down to like 15 to 20 times a month and I feel fine. And saving a little money to boot.
Same thing with food. I used to eat every meal like it was my last. Now I got by BMI down from 24 to 21. For me, with age came moderation.
I stopped being a drunk 18 years ago. I have one now and then if I can't get right to sleep. I have become what those folks don't like. A normal functioning person that can have a drink (but only if there is sex or sleep involved) and not suddenly fall off the wagon or worse. I never seem to want more than one. But even that one gets me tipsy. Two and I'm already sick. Somehow I became allergic to it. But I did go to meetings and have 4 years sober before I realized I wasn't that person anymore.
Kind of like sex. Although I used to get pretty anxious if I didnt have a date on any given day. Lately I been down to like 15 to 20 times a month and I feel fine. And saving a little money to boot.
Same thing with food. I used to eat every meal like it was my last. Now I got by BMI down from 24 to 21. For me, with age came moderation.Well, I'm impressed with your will power and ability to choose the straight and narrow. Really, I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Congrats!
I was tempted to send a Pm but thought I would ask the local guru for public suggestions before going private. I will visiting the West coast for ten days over Thanksgiving through 12-4. Aside from blasting SA for loose women looking for a quick encounter, does anyone have any suggestions on approaches or specific SB's I should consider? PM's welcome. I am not completely new and have contributed to both the Richmond and Cincinnati SB forums. (We miss you on Richmond HWG!
Bambam.
HollywoodGuy
11-23-15, 14:14
Well, I'm impressed with your will power and ability to choose the straight and narrow. Really, I'm not trying to be a smart ass. Congrats!It's been a life long struggle. But I finally got to a place that's somewhat comfortable. My family pretty much disowned me at an early age. Even my own kid figured I would be dead by 40. Now I got it all. All that I ever wanted. Nice car, nice house, good pussy, awesome business partner and a beautiful and successful daughter I can be proud of. Not braggin. I worked for it.
HollywoodGuy
11-23-15, 14:17
I was tempted to send a Pm but thought I would ask the local guru for public suggestions before going private. I will visiting the West coast for ten days over Thanksgiving through 12-4. Aside from blasting SA for loose women looking for a quick encounter, does anyone have any suggestions on approaches or specific SB's I should consider? PM's welcome. I am not completely new and have contributed to both the Richmond and Cincinnati SB forums. (We miss you on Richmond HWG!
Bambam.Send out your inquiries now. Well in advance on SA. Shouldn't be a problem meeting someone or two.
HollywoodGuy
11-26-15, 11:34
Lord, we all give thanks for the awesome pussy you bestow upon us. Since tomorrow is Black Friday. I will do my best to make sure all my AA girls get an encouraging message from me over the weekend. God Bless America. And especially Southern California for all the super fine, lonely girls that can't get enough dick (black, white, asian or hispnanic) to satisfy their never ending need to feel wanted and desirable. We will all do our best and renew our efforts to comfort them in their time of need. Happy Thanksgiving to All.
Lord, we all give thanks for the awesome pussy you bestow upon us. Since tomorrow is Black Friday. I will do my best to make sure all my AA girls get an encouraging message from me over the weekend. God Bless America. And especially Southern California for all the super fine, lonely girls that can't get enough dick (black, white, asian or hispnanic) to satisfy their never ending need to feel wanted and desirable. We will all do our best and renew our efforts to comfort them in their time of need. Happy Thanksgiving to All.Aman! Thanks for another giving me another chichi for today. Chichi's christ.
Lord, we all give thanks for the awesome pussy you bestow upon us. Since tomorrow is Black Friday. I will do my best to make sure all my AA girls get an encouraging message from me over the weekend. God Bless America. And especially Southern California for all the super fine, lonely girls that can't get enough dick (black, white, asian or hispnanic) to satisfy their never ending need to feel wanted and desirable. We will all do our best and renew our efforts to comfort them in their time of need. Happy Thanksgiving to All.Seconded. You guys weren't kidding about this being the busy season. Had a M&G set up with a drop dead gorgeous 20 year old blonde last night (frankly, I was surprised she wanted to hang out), but I had to raincheck due to a last minute work thing. Passed up a date with an 21 year old Asian stripper that I had been working on, due to the blonde. Have an afternoon date tomorrow with a super cute 18 year old Latina (she's already asking for money so she can get some birth control) and then a dinner M&G with a 23 year old Latina. Saturday night is a dinner date with a 20 year old Latina. It's raining ladies out there, gentlemen.
Eat well, be merry, stay safe.
In my prior post, I mentioned a blonde 20 year old that I had to raincheck on. Originally, I was going to pick her up at 10, but I was having an issue figuring out where to go. Does anybody have any recommendations for cool late night spots that aren't necessarily 21+? Obviously the FC would be ideal, but barring that I'd love to hear what other guys do.
Happy thankgiving. Again and again.
Lord, we all give thanks for the awesome pussy you bestow upon us. Since tomorrow is Black Friday. I will do my best to make sure all my AA girls get an encouraging message from me over the weekend. God Bless America. And especially Southern California for all the super fine, lonely girls that can't get enough dick (black, white, asian or hispnanic) to satisfy their never ending need to feel wanted and desirable. We will all do our best and renew our efforts to comfort them in their time of need. Happy Thanksgiving to All.
HollywoodGuy
11-27-15, 01:44
My final date with my roommate. She will be gone in a day or two.
Standard turkey day dinner at a 4 star restaurant.
JohnnyTheWad
11-27-15, 02:16
I stopped being a drunk 18 years ago. I have one now and then if I can't get right to sleep. I have become what those folks don't like. A normal functioning person that can have a drink (but only if there is sex or sleep involved) and not suddenly fall off the wagon or worse. I never seem to want more than one. But even that one gets me tipsy. Two and I'm already sick. Somehow I became allergic to it. But I did go to meetings and have 4 years sober before I realized I wasn't that person anymore.
Kind of like sex. Although I used to get pretty anxious if I didnt have a date on any given day. Lately I been down to like 15 to 20 times a month and I feel fine. And saving a little money to boot.
Same thing with food. I used to eat every meal like it was my last. Now I got by BMI down from 24 to 21. For me, with age came moderation.That is an interesting revelation, HG. You are indeed a rare man that can go back with moderation. As for myself, 25 years and do not miss it a bit. As for the sex and food, OMG I am so friggin out of control. LOL Hope your turkey day was a good one. JTW.
Hope to keep seeing her once a week after she leaves this weekend. More on a GF level with no allowance. Just civi dating costs.Your ex room mate is so hot no wonder you let her mess up your wood floor with her silettos.
Keep up the good work my friend. You are an inspiration to us all.
Member #5794
11-28-15, 01:24
My final date with my roommate. She will be gone in a day or two.
Standard turkey day dinner at a 4 star restaurant.All the sugar daddies I know on sa stay away from the dark meat. Kind of like gresham's law.
As soon as she is gone the X SB / GF will be arriving sometime this week.You are the man. Hope to one day have that kind of success.
HollywoodGuy
11-28-15, 13:38
All the sugar daddies I know on sa stay away from the dark meat. Kind of like gresham's law.I don't know who you know. But you got it ass backwards. Because these girls have nowhere to go. And they are not unaware that their "value" is generally degraded in the marketplace, so rather than leave, they work all the harder to compete in a mostly white consumer environment. Now except for some posts I have read about some older asian women (too old for me), the overall skills of the average horny AA girl is off the charts compared to any white girls I have interviewed. But I am only basing this on a few hundred encounters over the years. I hate that phrase "the law of attraction". But maybe they sense my true appreciation of their looks, skills and overall desire to please their master and commander.
I think its very telling that 90% of all "managers" are black. If white girls where so easily managed there would be far more white "managers". And being the senior manager I am in my work life I expect the same type of hard work, loyalty and dedication in my girls. So unless you just have no natural attraction to dark meat then you have no idea of what you are missing.
Now it's possible that all the truly awesome white girls are in such high demand that they are either quickly taken off the market by overpaying suitors or have an over inflated opinion of their value (GPS). Either scenario would lock me out of that market. But for whatever the reason there is an over abundance of grade A prime dark meat to consume. Just my opinion. And Happy Holidays to you all.
BTW, this only pertains to the SB and AMP market. But this is an SD thread. So hence my opinion. My failure to mention anything about light skinned Latina girls is only due to my opinion that they are really no different than the white girls I have encountered. And the dark skinned ones generally don't seem to be all that attracted to me. So no opinion there.
HollywoodGuy
11-28-15, 14:33
You are the man. Hope to one day have that kind of success.Except for the chosen few, most success is born out out of multiple failures. So go out and fail until you get it right. It worked for thomas edison.
HollywoodGuy
11-28-15, 21:39
I think to get the quality I would need in a white girl or super hot latina to be happy (in the looks dept) would probably be about $$$. I am working on an 18 year old white girl now. But she is maybe a 7 at best. She is down for a $, but only because we have a shared fantasy she is having trouble finding.
HollywoodGuy
11-29-15, 19:48
Now that the roommate is gone I am on a tear. I am chatting up a ridiculous amount of girls today. All types, even GPS girls just for the fun of it. I love to hear the angst in their messages knowing they are giving up the chance for some real fun due to their lifestyles of the rich and famous fantasies. But for real. The chance of me dating anyone over 23 looks dim. At that point they need real money. No more mommy or daddy to help them. Shit, I still help my daughter and she is 32.
Where are these parents when they need them?
On the down side my ATF started crying last nite knowing I am going to see my X GF soon. I dont do so well with crying. But we talked it out today. And I think we will be OK.
All the sugar daddies I know on sa stay away from the dark meat. Kind of like gresham's law.White girls are my thing, but HWG is right about the AA girls working it. I met up with a 23 year old AA girl recently. She is petite, but with boobs and the black girl booty. She has a degree, a job, and a car. I got her back to my place and for the next 3 hours she did ANYTHING to please me. She would have stayed longer but I couldn't go anymore. She can't wait to come back over later this week. And this for a very small allowance.
My SB's as I last reported, have been difficult to meet up with, so I went back on SA. Got some great promising responses. One was of a BBW African American with a gorgeous face and very good taste in clothes. We move from emails to texing to chatting in about ten minutes. We start talking about sex in another ten minutes. We both have to run errands and we are texting while we do it. She is an absolute newbie and talks about how she could never ask somebody for a specific amount of money because that would make her feel like a prostitute. While texting her, she asks me what I find sexy and I lay it on, "The back of the neck, hot breath in my ears, the feel of her hair. " She responds, "Oh fuck". I keep going. She texts, "you're killing me. " So when I get home and call her, I tell her she could come over if she wants. She is up for it but is spotting so we won't be doing everything. She loves giving head she tells me. She arrives and no doubt is a big woman, 6'0" and definitely a big girl, but she has some nice tits and round ass. Beautiful eyes and big full lips and not much self esteem.
Crazy passionate and really good at giving head. She likes it rough and I was pinching her nipples harder than I ever have with anyone else and she was fucking loving it. She was responding to everything like she had never had anyone take the time to really engage in foreplay. We played for hours. I didn't come because I had actually seen an HXer about two hours before she came over. I had no idea the day was going to end up this way! We made plans to see each other tonight so we can fuck. And she walked out the door with no mention of anything. This may just become a bootycall situation. She is very bright and I wouldn't mind being seen with her so mini-trips might be in the future.
White girls are my thing, but HWG is right about the AA girls working it. I met up with a 23 year old AA girl recently. She is petite, but with boobs and the black girl booty. She has a degree, a job, and a car. I got her back to my place and for the next 3 hours she did ANYTHING to please me. She would have stayed longer but I couldn't go anymore. She can't wait to come back over later this week. And this for a very small allowance.Damn. Maybe I should give the black ladies another try.
I've been focusing on finding an asian or white female. But that is tough to find.
HollywoodGuy
12-01-15, 11:52
Damn. Maybe I should give the black ladies another try.
I've been focusing on finding an asian or white female. But that is tough to find.And the younger the better, they are down. But if they are anything in the BB range and older. You better record it and get s signed release.
HollywoodGuy
12-01-15, 13:57
Damn. Maybe I should give the black ladies another try.
I've been focusing on finding an asian or white female. But that is tough to find.I don't know about you, but I need steady reliable pussy.
DirkMcQuickley
12-01-15, 17:27
And the younger the better, they are down. But if they are anything in the BB range and older. You better record it and get s signed release.What does "BB" mean? That's a new one on me and there are so many possibilities.
What does "BB" mean? That's a new one on me and there are so many possibilities.BB=bareback as in without condom. See'Mon. Man, basic stuff like this doesn't need to be in a glossary.
HollywoodGuy
12-01-15, 19:09
What does "BB" mean? That's a new one on me and there are so many possibilities.BBW. My mistake.
So the BBW African American woman came over last night and it was fantastic. Went right for her pussy and it was cleanly trimmed, smelled good and was all mine. She was moaning and sighing from the get go. Then she starts giving an truly excellent blowjob. I can't take it and I tell her, "Get that pussy over here. " We fuck missionary for a while just making out and fucking. Then I move her to the edge of the bed doggie and it is so, so good. She likes it rough and I really pound her and she can't get enough of it.
We rest and go at it again. Gave her fifty when she left for about 9 hours of play over the last two days.
HollywoodGuy
12-01-15, 20:55
So the BBW African American woman came over last night and it was fantastic. Went right for her pussy and it was cleanly trimmed, smelled good and was all mine. She was moaning and sighing from the get go. Then she starts giving an truly excellent blowjob. I can't take it and I tell her, "Get that pussy over here. " We fuck missionary for a while just making out and fucking. Then I move her to the edge of the bed doggie and it is so, so good. She likes it rough and I really pound her and she can't get enough of it.
We rest and go at it again. Gave her fifty when she left for about 9 hours of play over the last two days.The bigger the cushion, the better the pushin?
DirkMcQuickley
12-02-15, 11:40
BB=bareback as in without condom. See'Mon. Man, basic stuff like this doesn't need to be in a glossary.I know BB can mean bareback but when you read HollywoodGuy's whole post, bareback definitely did not fit the context of the post.
The bigger the cushion, the better the pushin?You got it HG! Ha! For some reason even though she is much taller than me and much bigger, we fit really well in terms of sexual organs. She loves it rough and I have never been so aggressive: pounding her in missionary and grabbing her hair, pulling her towards me and away from me and her just screaming with satisfaction. She would have come over last night as well. I am trying to not see her because I have a weekend planned with a former SB now FWB and want to make certain to be emotionally into it. I can't really do one right after the other. She had my cock between these lovely tits and was licking the top as well.
HollywoodGuy
12-02-15, 21:27
You got it HG! Ha! For some reason even though she is much taller than me and much bigger, we fit really well in terms of sexual organs. She loves it rough and I have never been so aggressive: pounding her in missionary and grabbing her hair, pulling her towards me and away from me and her just screaming with satisfaction. She would have come over last night as well. I am trying to not see her because I have a weekend planned with a former SB now FWB and want to make certain to be emotionally into it. I can't really do one right after the other. She had my cock between these lovely tits and was licking the top as well.It gets to that point rather quickly. I just had to tun down an 18 year old white girl that wanted to come right over to fuck me, she is about an 8 in looks. But I already fucked my ATF this morning for 90 minutes and I have another girl coming over in about an hour that wont be gone till tomorrow morning. Life is tough all over.
Pinche Gringo
12-03-15, 00:40
I am envious of you LA dudes. I am sick and tired of the SB in the OC wanting so much. I am expanding my searches to LA now!
Had a M&G with a really cute 18 year old Latina who lived waaaay up in the Valley over the weekend. We never discussed financial arrangements at the time (my mistake), but she seemed really sweet and kind of naive. We chatted over the next couple of days until financial compensation came up.
Suddenly she was very business like and laid it out -- she wanted 4 k a month or 400 a meet. I politely declined, wished her luck, and we ended the conversation on good terms. I was bummed that such a gem was out of my grasp, but decided ultimately it was for the best as she lived far away.
Today she hits me up and brings up a new offer -- 200 a meet. I talked her down to 1. 5 plus travel costs. We agreed to meet that night at the FC and I had high hopes.
Well, she showed up and we settled into watching a movie and having some drinks. Halfway through the movie she said that her stomach wasn't feeling that great. Huh. I tried the usual stuff of putting my arm around her, but she didn't really cozy up to me and kept her distance.
Three fourths of the way through the movie she declared that she needed to go. I didn't press her, but obviously this was really disappointing. Earlier today I had a lunch date with a girl who ended up not being as good looking as I had thought and a dinner no show. No action at the FC was basically the capper to an unproductive day.
We made out a little while waiting for her uber, but obviously that was far below what I was expecting. The only solace was that I didn't give her the allowance beyond covering uber costs. She said she was interested in meeting up again on Friday night. Hopefully her 'stomach issues' have settled by then and I can see if all this time and effort was worth it.
HollywoodGuy
12-03-15, 12:26
Had a M&G with a really cute 18 year old Latina who lived waaaay up in the Valley over the weekend. We never discussed financial arrangements at the time (my mistake), but she seemed really sweet and kind of naive. We chatted over the next couple of days until financial compensation came up.
Suddenly she was very business like and laid it out -- she wanted 4 k a month or 400 a meet. I politely declined, wished her luck, and we ended the conversation on good terms. I was bummed that such a gem was out of my grasp, but decided ultimately it was for the best as she lived far away.
Today she hits me up and brings up a new offer -- 200 a meet. I talked her down to 1. 5 plus travel costs. We agreed to meet that night at the FC and I had high hopes.
Well, she showed up and we settled into watching a movie and having some drinks. Halfway through the movie she said that her stomach wasn't feeling that great. Huh. I tried the usual stuff of putting my arm around her, but she didn't really cozy up to me and kept her distance.
Three fourths of the way through the movie she declared that she needed to go. I didn't press her, but obviously this was really disappointing. Earlier today I had a lunch date with a girl who ended up not being as good looking as I had thought and a dinner no show. No action at the FC was basically the capper to an unproductive day.
We made out a little while waiting for her uber, but obviously that was far below what I was expecting. The only solace was that I didn't give her the allowance beyond covering uber costs. She said she was interested in meeting up again on Friday night. Hopefully her 'stomach issues' have settled by then and I can see if all this time and effort was worth it.If you only paid for an uber it was just like a civi date. No harm, no foul.
Checking out SA yesterday and a BBW Latina has responded to my email. She said she had gotten a lot of interest but not hooked up by her choice so I thought she could be tough to convince. We email for a bit and then I get her on the phone and run the same routine, very polite, laugh a lot and after about ten minutes ask her something about her sexual background. I do this almost like a tv interview and the women so far completely go for it. I am not asking in a leering way "What are you wearing?" but other things. Turns out this girl has had a wild sexual past. But she said she is also blushing and I can hear it in her voice. We hang up with plans to meet next week. Then she texts me and it's clear that she wants to see me. I do the HG of the M&G but I have stuff to do so I ask her if she can just meet me at my place. She agrees! This is going to be good.
She comes over and immediately starts making out with me. She has tremendous full lips and beautiful, if small breasts. Her nipples and areolas are perfect. She is overweight but so am I so I don't care. I go down on her and give her her first O. Then it is her turn. Damn this girl has skills. Immediately goes for the balls. And teases me. Then up the shaft and DT until she is gagging. Dropping salivia on for lube. Amazing. We make out and I finger fuck her and she has another O. Her pussy is so tight that I am having trouble getting in AND it is contracting pushing me out. Ha! So she goes down on me again. We rest. She is bi. She says that she probably enjoys being with women more but she's got to have dick. Love it. We start fucking and oh my god. Incredible. She also tells me I am her first older man! It was one of her fantasies. She has to leave to be home for family dinner! So we get cleaned up. She leaves. No discussion of gifts, but then she texts me about it and I tell her sue and she comes back. 6. She is already up for setting up a threesome with her friends.
HollywoodGuy
12-03-15, 14:09
Checking out SA yesterday and a BBW Latina has responded to my email. She said she had gotten a lot of interest but not hooked up by her choice so I thought she could be tough to convince. We email for a bit and then I get her on the phone and run the same routine, very polite, laugh a lot and after about ten minutes ask her something about her sexual background. I do this almost like a tv interview and the women so far completely go for it. I am not asking in a leering way "What are you wearing?" but other things. Turns out this girl has had a wild sexual past. But she said she is also blushing and I can hear it in her voice. We hang up with plans to meet next week. Then she texts me and it's clear that she wants to see me. I do the HG of the M&G but I have stuff to do so I ask her if she can just meet me at my place. She agrees! This is going to be good.
She comes over and immediately starts making out with me. She has tremendous full lips and beautiful, if small breasts. Her nipples and areolas are perfect. She is overweight but so am I so I don't care. I go down on her and give her her first O. Then it is her turn. Damn this girl has skills. Immediately goes for the balls. And teases me. Then up the shaft and DT until she is gagging. Dropping salivia on for lube. Amazing. We make out and I finger fuck her and she has another O. Her pussy is so tight that I am having trouble getting in AND it is contracting pushing me out. Ha! So she goes down on me again. We rest. She is bi. She says that she probably enjoys being with women more but she's got to have dick. Love it. We start fucking and oh my god. Incredible. She also tells me I am her first older man! It was one of her fantasies. She has to leave to be home for family dinner! So we get cleaned up. She leaves. No discussion of gifts, but then she texts me about it and I tell her sue and she comes back. 6. She is already up for setting up a threesome with her friends.Keep posting, and I love pics. Girls are a lot less shy about having you take them than you might think. They all want to be models. LOL.
HollywoodGuy
12-07-15, 05:11
I saw a an 18 year old White girls SA profile that said she was overly submissive. Just average looking but very sincere. So we messaged just a little for maybe a week and I went to pick her up today from the closest starbucks to her dorm. She was pretty shy, but said enough after about 10 minutes for me to suggest we should just get a room and she agreed.
She just moved here in the fall from back east to start school. And like all small town girls she realized L. A. can cost a bit more than her folks think it should. I went to a no-tel that I have been to many times in that area. Not cheap but well worth it. All the girls feel like its either cool or classy. Used to be a howard johnsons.
Our shared particular role play led to a good 90 minutes of non stop action. She was happy, I was a gentleman and stopped if she said no to anything. But being the kinky girl she was she still had a big enough bag of tricks to keep it pretty hot.
Also my roommate just got on a plane back to florida tonite, so its official. It was cool while it lasted and ended with zero drama.
So I have been getting some interest form the ladies in the IE. The Latina's I have been trying to hook up with in my previous post are dodging left and right so I kind of gave up on them. I have been chatting with this BBW Latina for the hell of it but did not really have much interest because she seemed flaky and not really my type. Cute face but big body. The one thing she does have is a nice set of DDD's for you boob men out there. I had a 19 yo AA on the hook for Friday night but neither of us could make it happen because of transportation. So late that night I just wanted to see what I could get before the weekend.
She emailed me and asked how I was doing and whether I was available to meet tonight. I replied and we setup something up for about midnight. I picked her up in Fontana and we went and hung out at a local park (pitch black). Had a pretty good conversation as well. At one point we were discussing BJ's and how they don't normally get me off. Out of nowhere she says I bet I can get you off within 30 minutes. Wager was that if she wins she is rewarded as she was not expecting anything from the meet and If I win well the BJ was reward in itself haha. I will say this: She has a very good technique, it needs work but It was a hell of an effort. She came close but no cigar. What I liked about it was that she was genuinely upset she did not "win" the bet. She stopped with 10 min left because her jaws and hands were tired hahaha. She looked at me and said what now!? I pulled those boobies out and got to work. Her nipples are very sensitive and she was very responsive, clutching my head and arms moaning loud. I slowed and explained that next time we should get a room because the backseat was rather small for both of us. She said it will have to work because she was horny. She grabbed my hand and stuck it in her yoga pants. Dayum....drenched. I pulled my fingers out and rubbed them together and put them towards her face and she sucked them with no hesitation. Bingo, just what I was looking for. Off came the Yoga pants, as she was ridding herself of her clothes she started to tell me how she clean and gets tested every two months and she's on the pill so I could cum in her if I want. TBH that slowed me down because I was thinking; every two months? You must be active then! No worries, I always have the gold package with me so I wrapped up which she seemed displeased with since she obviously wanted to be filled with my seed *grin* I told her maybe next time. Pshhh hell no, not locking me in with a little rascal haha. I did however lay a nice string of pearls all over her DDD's. Dropped her off and She was pressing me to make sure I got in touch with her again. Awesome thing is she never asked for a single .01 but I went ahead and handed her. 40 which she seemed pleased with.
Now If I could just get this petite little 19 yo AA to come through. She has a petite little body and plump ass. I manipulated the pics for their anonymity of course.
HollywoodGuy
12-07-15, 17:17
Off came the Yoga pants, as she was ridding herself of her clothes she started to tell me how she clean and gets tested every two months and she's on the pill so I could cum in her if I want. TBH that slowed me down because I was thinking; every two months? You must be active then!Remember, girls 25 and under can get tested for free at planned parenthood for everything except HSV (herpes). And get free BC too. So she coulda just had one or two partners and just wanted to be responsible.
Remember, girls 25 and under can get tested for free at planned parenthood for everything except HSV (herpes). And get free BC too. So she coulda just had one or two partners and just wanted to be responsible.Will keep that in mind. Thanks!
Geneva Guy
12-07-15, 19:20
As I said before, I'm located in NY, but there is no SA board there and this one is full of good tips.
Met up with a 22 year old about 3 months ago, we have had lunch a couple times, she is cute, smart, and doesn't ask for much at all (tells me she can pay her own bills). So, asked her if she wanted to do something more intimate. She said yes. We met for lunch (she is Latina), then off to my place. I started kissing her and she said "lets go upstairs". Now this gal isn't small, but honestly with her clothes on, she doesn't look HUGE either. But. When the clothes came off YIKES. She was a very big girl. Essentially I couldn't even get it up then, and she also seemed uncomfortable, and I think we don't like the same things sexually. Nice girl, I will see her again for lunch. But not to bed again. She sent me a pic of her and an Asian GF (1/2 vietnamese and 1/2 Filipino). Oh. Yum yum. I wonder how I bring up the subject of meeting the girlfriend hehehe.
OK, live and learn. I will stick to girls that are small (I usually spend lots of time in SE Asia and the viets and filipinas are small and yummy). If you want to see those pics. Check the ISG boards under the countries of VN, Singapore and PHIL. I post pics of them there.
I also joined WYP but mostly get contacted by girls hundreds of miles away!
As usual, thanks for the tips.
GG.
Your post triggered me to go check out ISG. Especially the VN, Phil boards. Damn. Every other post there has a sexy naked pic of a girl who is easily a 8, 9 or even 10. Damn. Damn. Damn. I feel like teleporting myself to one of these exotic locales.
If you want to see those pics. Check the ISG boards under the countries of VN, Singapore and PHIL. I post pics of them there.
GG.
HollywoodGuy
12-08-15, 00:39
Your post triggered me to go check out ISG. Especially the VN, Phil boards. Damn. Every other post there has a sexy naked pic of a girl who is easily a 8, 9 or even 10. Damn. Damn. Damn. I feel like teleporting myself to one of these exotic locales.As my job is virtual, I have seriously considered it. One of my doctors went there and never came back. Phillipines.
HollywoodGuy
12-08-15, 00:39
Your post triggered me to go check out ISG. Especially the VN, Phil boards. Damn. Every other post there has a sexy naked pic of a girl who is easily a 8, 9 or even 10. Damn. Damn. Damn. I feel like teleporting myself to one of these exotic locales.As my job is virtual, I have seriously considered it. One of my doctors went there and never came back. Philippines.
Geneva Guy
12-08-15, 07:47
As my job is virtual, I have seriously considered it. One of my doctors went there and never came back. Philippines.Well boys, if you ever want any recommendations / advice on traveling to PHIL or VN just mail me. PHIL is the easiest place to get laid for pennies (compared to US). VN. Takes more work but once you know the system, you are golden. And I mean regular girls, not just P4 P girls. And yes, you can use SA there. If you care to. I don't.
Here is one of my VN sweeties in the North, she asks for little and gives a lot. She is a regular girl, just looking to make a few extra bucks. She is sweet and kind and pretty and always willing to please. Only thing I can't do is anal with her because honestly, he butt hole is about the diameter of a pencil (and not an apple pencil LOL) . Enjoy.
GG.
That sounds very encouraging. I'm going to put in some time to research on travel options to PHIL. What would be your recommendations if someone's traveling on a tight budget.
Well boys, if you ever want any recommendations / advice on traveling to PHIL or VN just mail me. PHIL is the easiest place to get laid for pennies (compared to US). VN. Takes more work but once you know the system, you are golden. Enjoy. GG.
ChrisPoontang
12-09-15, 03:06
Only thing I can't do is anal with her because honestly, he butt hole is about the diameter of a pencil (and not an apple pencil LOL) I got just the thing for small butt holes!
Heard this is the place to be nowadays.
HappyMan4242
12-09-15, 06:01
Heard this is the place to be nowadays.I've been to Thailand (LOS) land of smiles of land of sex 10 times plus. Went alone first time. No issues. Once you go there, it's mongers paradise. But the place has changed in last few years due to the influx of Russians and prices going up. But still worth going at least once in your life. Thailand changed me in so many ways I consider it a second home, and that's outside all the girls.
Geneva Guy
12-09-15, 07:44
That sounds very encouraging. I'm going to put in some time to research on travel options to PHIL. What would be your recommendations if someone's traveling on a tight budget.Hmmm. Tight budget, well flights from the USA are not cheap for sure. That will be the biggest cost for you. Once you get to PHIL, there are less expensive hotels and you can eat for a reasonable price. But coming from US, hard to "cheap it".
GG.
HollywoodGuy
12-09-15, 11:42
I got just the thing for small butt holes!I couldn't help myself. I went to ebay and bought a tube. I will report back later LOL.
This Seeking Arrangements site sounds like the way to go. Whats the cost? Do pay monthly or how does that work Hollywood Guy?
This Seeking Arrangements site sounds like the way to go. Whats the cost? Do pay monthly or how does that work Hollywood Guy?After you create a profile, the pricing options will show up.
HollywoodGuy
12-10-15, 01:19
This Seeking Arrangements site sounds like the way to go. Whats the cost? Do pay monthly or how does that work Hollywood Guy?Its like one seventy for 6 months. As far as I recall. Its such a tiny investment compared to what even a once a weeker might spend on girls, I can't see a reason not to do it.
This Seeking Arrangements site sounds like the way to go. Whats the cost? Do pay monthly or how does that work Hollywood Guy?There's three pricing plans: 1 month for $70,3 months for $180, or 6 months for $300. I've had no problems using vanilla prepaid Visa cards for payment, if that's something that interests you.
There's three pricing plans: 1 month for $70,3 months for $180, or 6 months for $300. I've had no problems using vanilla prepaid Visa cards for payment, if that's something that interests you.They are running a one month for $46. Did that to see if I like it.
My first m&g basically scoffed at my budget. On HX, she'd barely be a $120,5-6 face type who claims her last arrangement was 2 x / month $500/! GTFO! She recommended whatsyourprice.com as "better fitting my needs. ".
HollywoodGuy
12-10-15, 13:22
There's three pricing plans: 1 month for $70,3 months for $180, or 6 months for $300. I've had no problems using vanilla prepaid Visa cards for payment, if that's something that interests you.All I know is I keep renewing the 6 month plan.
HollywoodGuy
12-12-15, 01:30
ATF - On her period.
Church Girl - Depressed and doing her hair.
Hot New White Girl - 18 - got her tongue pierced today.
X GF - Christmas dinner.
Little Girl N - No baby sitter.
X SB - Too far to drive on a Friday night.
X UTR - No reply.
Roommate - Moved back to florida.
So the SB I would have loved to have been my primary girl, the one with the out of this world body and who's polite demeanor metamorphsized into a nasty sex crazed lover, became conflicted and personally I think got coaching from someone about what her value was. At times I felt like I was texting with two different people, has pushed herself out of the picture. I don't argue with her assessement of her value but I wasn't going to spend my entire month's budget on an unknown, especially when I have been getting some great experiences for 50 and less. It's too bad, but the great thing about having more than one SB is that you get over the loss pretty fast.
This past weekend went up north and hung out with my SB that has become a FWB and we fuck like crazy. I give her the best orgasm in her life according to her. She is also trying very hard to please me because at the age of 31, she is the oldest of the bunch and that has thrown her. She mentioned it several times and when giving me head, said "Can your 18 year olds do this? Perfect place to have all of them. Came home and called up the BBW AF and she came over and we fucked for hours. We definitely have chemistry. I gave the FWB 60 for a Christmas tree, nothing to the other.
HollywoodGuy
12-14-15, 21:26
I got just the thing for small butt holes!I actually bought it (the anal-ese). It was like six bucks for a half ounce of 7.5% benzocaine cherry flavored ointment. Good and Bad. The good is that it led me to ebay where the competition sells a one ounce 20% benzocaine cherry flavored ointment for the same price or less. So almost 3 times stronger and twice as much for the same price.
Now the bad. You can not use this stuff and go bare or your dick will numb up and you won't feel a fucking thing. LOL. Butt (and all puns intended) for you guys that always cover up anyway, no big deal.
I actually bought it (the anal-ese). It was like six bucks for a half ounce of 7.5% benzocaine cherry flavored ointment. Good and Bad. The good is that it led me to ebay where the competition sells a one ounce 20% benzocaine cherry flavored ointment for the same price or less. So almost 3 times stronger and twice as much for the same price.
Now the bad. You can not use this stuff and go bare or your dick will numb up and you won't feel a fucking thing. LOL. Butt (and all puns intended) for you guys that always cover up anyway, no big deal.Well I've always said that those that would bareback indiscriminately were a bunch of numb nuts. Now they can have numb dicks as well.
HollywoodGuy
12-16-15, 00:01
Well I've always said that those that would bareback indiscriminately were a bunch of numb nuts. Now they can have numb dicks as well.Indiscriminately? I suppose so. Admittedly I have been a repeat offender in the past. Been working on that lately. 61 years and all tests negative. I have to realize my luck could run out. But I just had to follow up on CP's post. And yours. Thanks for the words of wisdom. Truly.
HollywoodGuy
12-16-15, 02:01
I am really at the most minimum I have been in years. I got my ATF (14 months now) who is the best fuck/kisser in the world hands down. I reunited with my X. But that's like having a real GF. Don"t know what's going to happen there. But we plan to see each other once a week (almost at 3 years with her off and on). And I have one reliable UTR that is bucking for a raise. I may have to give in just to keep her chilled out. After 20 dates I have to admit she gets me off the way I like. So there are 4 guaranteed dates a week. Twice a week with my ATF and once a week for my GF and UTR.
My current SA stats / POTS. 14 favorites I am slowly working on. 8 girls in my inbox (meaning they haven't made it to my favorites yet). 27 girls in my sent box. And 6 that have agreed to my $ a date that I haven't gotten around to actually meeting yet. I could send out 30 more messages, but with the holidays, work, regulars and medical stuff, I don't see the point. I am sure I will cave soon. Maybe even tonite. I think I get bored in like 5 minutes tops. I worked 12 hours today just to keep from going crazy. But there are still 2 more hours till bedtime.
And I have 3,374 girls in my delete box after 9 months on SA with my current membership. That led to about 60 random hook-ups with 24 other girls aside from the 3 mentioned above as of october 30. Some only once or twice, and a few that made it to 5 or a few more. And every one of those hook-ups was at a $ a date.
If a girl shows loyalty and skills I do pay more over time. You cant fuck a girl 50 times and not give in to her needs here and there. I know I am always talking about a $ a date. But they have to be willing to start there to show their sincerity first. Because in a LTR the price is going to go up. Until they get spoiled rotten. Then I have to pull the plug whether I like it or not. And sometimes it's a real shame. But that's life.
If I really do get back for real with my X it will be the first time in my entire life that I broke up with someone and then went back. Because when I leave it's forever.
Discreet1965
12-18-15, 16:41
WhatsYourPrice is another site from SeekingArrangement folks. Basically you bid for a date rather than monthly allowance.
If you bid $100 and the lady accepts, then you can communicate with her. The site docks your account $20 I. E. 1/5 of bid amount.
I generally bid $50, then in communication propose 100-150 for a full (wink wink) date. I have had good luck with this site.
WhatsYourPrice is another site from SeekingArrangement folks. Basically you bid for a date rather than monthly allowance.
If you bid $100 and the lady accepts, then you can communicate with her. The site docks your account $20 I. E. 1/5 of bid amount.
I generally bid $50, then in communication propose 100-150 for a full (wink wink) date. I have had good luck with this site.Are you trying to set up a per visit deal? I haven't pulled the trigger on this one. Sure, I want to spend $_ to negotiate with you. #rolleyes.
Have been working SA for about 2 weeks. To say that it's different than HX is the understatement of the week! I've met with Fresno 6's that talked about $300 per plus a room! These chicks throw out $300+ like it was stale bread to pigeons, never mind the fact that you have the cost and exposure of getting a room. Fuggedaboudit. GPS blurted out by "princesses" who have no idea what we can find here for so much less.
Did get a 40 yo cutie down from $350 into the ones but we would still need a room. May work on that further. If she's willing to drop by almost 50%, I don't think I've hit bottom.
Had a long message chat with an 18 yo who, within a few minutes emailed me underwear and topless shots. We quickly arrived at those same high numbers plus room and she's a long way away. The flirting was interesting and fun.
Did have drinks with a 22 yo, OK-ish cute, but athletic stocky. She's very local and said originally $2-300 per but we were able to discuss it intelligently and, as she doesn't need it to cover bills, something in the $ range was acceptable. She even said I could go to her place.
The big winner was the cute but borderline BBW (Curvy?) 34 yo Hispanic married lady that I met for drinks. After a few, we were both ready to rip each others clothes off but she had to go pick up family. She also said her previous arrangement was $2-300 per but was good with my $. She flat out said her husband has very low sex drive.
So we met at her place today (something she didn't allow her previous to do! Had a few drinks from the vodka I brought, she said "put it in me" and screwed each others brains out for about an hour and a half on her couch. BBFS and I asked her about cumming inside her and she replied that she is on the pill. Told it didn't matter as I got clipped years ago. I asked her how long it's been since she had a good lay and she rolled her eyes. "You don't even want to know. " We will see each other again after the holidays and I do feel I accomplished what I wanted to out of this.
Have to say that, after all the DFK, etc. It was very awkward to hand her money unlike here. She just said, "Then don't make it awkward. " So I gave her her "Christmas present. ".
I will say that I have a better handle on filtering through the BS and may try AFF when my month subscription ends. Maybe more hook ups than LTR. Until then, I have a few serious contenders on SA but limited experience is saying that I'll get the same high numbers.
Such a different world. Unless your wallet it hung like a rhino, you will probably have to lower your standards from the "Holy crap" types.
I will say that the hunt is kinda fun. One thing I did notice is that the ones who never ask for private pics of me get quickly to numbers. Probably semi-pros.
Oh, and create a spreadsheet on Google Docs so you can keep track of it all. Serious numbers game.
My $0. 02.
"Spoiled Model behind bars. Getting out soon I guess I was having too much fun in CA because I caught a DUI and landed in prison:(I get out in March '16. Its pretty lonely and boring in here but we make our own fun. ".
Workin' it from the clink! Guess they have interwebs in jail!
HollywoodGuy
12-18-15, 23:52
Have been working SA for about 2 weeks. To say that it's different than HX is the understatement of the week! I've met with Fresno 6's that talked about $300 per plus a room! These chicks throw out $300+ like it was stale bread to pigeons, never mind the fact that you have the cost and exposure of getting a room. Fuggedaboudit. GPS blurted out by "princesses" who have no idea what we can find here for so much less.
Did get a 40 yo cutie down from $350 into the ones but we would still need a room. May work on that further. If she's willing to drop by almost 50%, I don't think I've hit bottom.
Had a long message chat with an 18 yo who, within a few minutes emailed me underwear and topless shots. We quickly arrived at those same high numbers plus room and she's a long way away. The flirting was interesting and fun.
Did have drinks with a 22 yo, OK-ish cute, but athletic stocky. She's very local and said originally $2-300 per but we were able to discuss it intelligently and, as she doesn't need it to cover bills, something in the $ range was acceptable. She even said I could go to her place.
The big winner was the cute but borderline BBW (Curvy?) 34 yo Hispanic married lady that I met for drinks. After a few, we were both ready to rip each others clothes off but she had to go pick up family. She also said her previous arrangement was $2-300 per but was good with my $. She flat out said her husband has very low sex drive.
So we met at her place today (something she didn't allow her previous to do! Had a few drinks from the vodka I brought, she said "put it in me" and screwed each others brains out for about an hour and a half on her couch. BBFS and I asked her about cumming inside her and she replied that she is on the pill. Told it didn't matter as I got clipped years ago. I asked her how long it's been since she had a good lay and she rolled her eyes. "You don't even want to know. " We will see each other again after the holidays and I do feel I accomplished what I wanted to out of this.
Have to say that, after all the DFK, etc. It was very awkward to hand her money unlike here. She just said, "Then don't make it awkward. " So I gave her her "Christmas present. ".
I will say that I have a better handle on filtering through the BS and may try AFF when my month subscription ends. Maybe more hook ups than LTR. Until then, I have a few serious contenders on SA but limited experience is saying that I'll get the same high numbers.
Such a different world. Unless your wallet it hung like a rhino, you will probably have to lower your standards from the "Holy crap" types.
I will say that the hunt is kinda fun. One thing I did notice is that the ones who never ask for private pics of me get quickly to numbers. Probably semi-pros.
Oh, and create a spreadsheet on Google Docs so you can keep track of it all. Serious numbers game.
My $0. 02.I would keep at it. It really takes time to get in the groove with SA. But over the long haul it always pays off. For me its more about knowing there are exclusive girls on there that only want one guy at a time. Makes me feel a little more special and the STD risk is far far lower if you get to those types of girls.
HippyHippyShak
12-19-15, 01:31
Always stick to the number.
And the number is, 100.
Have been working SA for about 2 weeks. To say that it's different than HX is the understatement of the week! I've met with Fresno 6's that talked about $300 per plus a room! These chicks throw out $300+ like it was stale bread to pigeons, never mind the fact that you have the cost and exposure of getting a room. Fuggedaboudit. GPS blurted out by "princesses" who have no idea what we can find here for so much less.
Did get a 40 yo cutie down from $350 into the ones but we would still need a room. May work on that further. If she's willing to drop by almost 50%, I don't think I've hit bottom.
Had a long message chat with an 18 yo who, within a few minutes emailed me underwear and topless shots. We quickly arrived at those same high numbers plus room and she's a long way away. The flirting was interesting and fun.
Did have drinks with a 22 yo, OK-ish cute, but athletic stocky. She's very local and said originally $2-300 per but we were able to discuss it intelligently and, as she doesn't need it to cover bills, something in the $ range was acceptable. She even said I could go to her place.
The big winner was the cute but borderline BBW (Curvy?) 34 yo Hispanic married lady that I met for drinks. After a few, we were both ready to rip each others clothes off but she had to go pick up family. She also said her previous arrangement was $2-300 per but was good with my $. She flat out said her husband has very low sex drive.
So we met at her place today (something she didn't allow her previous to do! Had a few drinks from the vodka I brought, she said "put it in me" and screwed each others brains out for about an hour and a half on her couch. BBFS and I asked her about cumming inside her and she replied that she is on the pill. Told it didn't matter as I got clipped years ago. I asked her how long it's been since she had a good lay and she rolled her eyes. "You don't even want to know. " We will see each other again after the holidays and I do feel I accomplished what I wanted to out of this.
Have to say that, after all the DFK, etc. It was very awkward to hand her money unlike here. She just said, "Then don't make it awkward. " So I gave her her "Christmas present. ".
I will say that I have a better handle on filtering through the BS and may try AFF when my month subscription ends. Maybe more hook ups than LTR. Until then, I have a few serious contenders on SA but limited experience is saying that I'll get the same high numbers.
Such a different world. Unless your wallet it hung like a rhino, you will probably have to lower your standards from the "Holy crap" types.
I will say that the hunt is kinda fun. One thing I did notice is that the ones who never ask for private pics of me get quickly to numbers. Probably semi-pros.
Oh, and create a spreadsheet on Google Docs so you can keep track of it all. Serious numbers game.
My $0. 02.
Discreet1965
12-19-15, 03:38
Are you trying to set up a per visit deal? I haven't pulled the trigger on this one. Sure, I want to spend $_ to negotiate with you. #rolleyes.If you offer $50 for the date, then you pay the site $10. If she accepts your offer, you are obligated to pay her only $50 for the date. This ($50) normally gets me a lunch+movie date.
Most of the time, I have been able to negotiate to $100-150 for lunch+private time indoors. Still cheaper than SA.
HappyMan4242
12-20-15, 05:42
Decided to try it out for a month. Wow. Met a former playboy model MILF only seeking small amount a month. There's a lot that want 300-500 a meeting. I lmao. Be patient and firm like on CL And woul find them for 150 max.
ChickenHawk88
12-20-15, 16:37
I've tried the 100 but gotten lots of laughs even at 150. I look and send to girls in minimal category. I tried latinas asians Caucasian and even blacks. They were good / decent looking. So far seeing a college asian cutie with booty for $$. 5 for meet. Yeah its high but even few hours of fun with her is cheaper than Hx girl for now. No luck on whisper either.
HollywoodGuy
12-20-15, 22:03
I've tried the 100 but gotten lots of laughs even at 150. I look and send to girls in minimal category. I tried latinas asians Caucasian and even blacks. They were good / decent looking. So far seeing a college asian cutie with booty for $$. 5 for meet. Yeah its high but even few hours of fun with her is cheaper than Hx girl for now. No luck on whisper either.HX and BP etc are for guys that want instant hookups and maximum variety with no cares about the girl fucking 30 different guys a month. This is a different ball game altogether.
Discreet1965
12-21-15, 12:03
I've tried the 100 but gotten lots of laughs even at 150. I look and send to girls in minimal category. I tried latinas asians Caucasian and even blacks. They were good / decent looking. So far seeing a college asian cutie with booty for $$. 5 for meet. Yeah its high but even few hours of fun with her is cheaper than Hx girl for now. No luck on whisper either.Whisper has been great for me. Got to have patience with it. Do not be too obvious with your whisper. Use simple ones like 'do sugarbaby's prefer gifts or allowances' or 'any younger ladies looking to be spoiled'?
Mocospace chatrooms are good too. I generally hang out in the Sugardaddy & Sugarbaby room, or create one if it does not exist.
With Whisper / Mocospace, the ladies are not likely to be seasoned sugar baby's like on SD4 ME or SA. Had 3 first time sugar babies via this route.
HollywoodGuy
12-21-15, 14:51
When starting to question an 18 year old POTS financial requirements (and hinting that mine were below $$) ... here was her reply.
"The men that have offered $300+ have been the most difficult to get along with in my experience. Also, the more money they offer, the more they expect me to do for them physically (which would be great if I were an escort). I'm not just looking for the highest offer. If I'm going to spend time on anyone, I want to grow, learn, and have fun".
I then replied with my $ offer. If she accepts then I will explain to her that there must be some minor physical contact to earn that $. All I ever ask for is a HJ knowing that 50% of the time it will lead to BBFS. And so I await her reply.
HollywoodGuy
12-21-15, 18:37
I have three M&G's set for tomorrow. 18,18 and 19. All of them are 7-9 quality depending on what your hot buttons are. You would think at least one of them will get past a date or two. I have really slowed down and been focusing primarily on my ATF, SB/GF, and my UTR who I am trying to convince to go exclusive. It's tough right before the holiday as I have many last minute work and Dr related appointments to squeeze in. But looking forward to an exciting and Happy New Year. I hope you all are too.
I already got & gave my ATF and GF their pricey ($$$.5) xmas gifts. And my UTR I just paid her .6 cel bill for her xmas gift. Plus I told my UTR she could take the occasional uber from now on and not always have to use public transportation. My ATF and GF only use uber or have me drive them. Three girls and none of them has a car.
So you see how the $ a date is really important when you start to factor in all the extras. Start off at $$ a date and those girls will be expecting those extras immediately. I figure any long term girl is gonna cost her allowance plus about 50% more in incidentals. So $ turns into $.5 and $$ turns into $$$. You get the picture. So even at 20 dates a month I would be at 3k a month. Which is almost exactly where I ended up this year. 36k
I didnt end up exactly at $.5 (it was slightly more), but that was due to having 3 different roommates this year (now all gone) that got paid more due to their 24/7 status. I am really going to try to avoid the roommate relationships for next year. Just the occasional sleep over for a nite or two max.
Now for you part timers. Like 1 or 2 dates a week, if you were paying double what I pay you would still be at 12 to 24 hundred a month potentially. But getting some good looking girls for sure. My current 3 all compliment each other so there is no competition between them. And I tell them that anytime they feel depressed or worried that I may choose one over the other.
I really love the way how you track metrics to speak for itself. A lot of us (me including) spend a lot of money hobbying not really tracking what we spent and what's been our return on investment.
Could you pl. Share some more data as to how many dates / FS did you present yourself in 2015 and with how many girls. Thanks.
So even at 20 dates a month I would be at 3k a month. Which is almost exactly where I ended up this year. 36K
I didnt end up exactly at $.5 (it was slightly more), but that was due to having 3 different roommates this year (now all gone) that got paid more due to their 24/7 status.
HollywoodGuy
12-21-15, 22:28
I really love the way how you track metrics to speak for itself. A lot of us (me including) spend a lot of money hobbying not really tracking what we spent and what's been our return on investment.
Could you pl. Share some more data as to how many dates / FS did you present yourself in 2015 and with how many girls. Thanks.Read back a few posts. I think I messaged over 3,000 girls.I basically spend an hour or two a day hunting for the next deserving girl. Which is a lot less time than these mongers who cruise fig, western, etc for hours in their car. The most vulnerable place you can possibly be.
Hornilius69
12-22-15, 02:42
Read back a few posts. I think I messaged over 3,000 girls.I basically spend an hour or two a day hunting for the next deserving girl. Which is a lot less time than these mongers who cruise fig, western, etc for hours in their car. The most vulnerable place you can possibly be.I cut down mongering a lot. Thanks to SA or SD site! It is much safer to pick up girls.
HeartofaLion
12-22-15, 18:03
When starting to question an 18 year old POTS financial requirements (and hinting that mine were below $$) ... here was her reply.
"The men that have offered $300+ have been the most difficult to get along with in my experience. Also, the more money they offer, the more they expect me to do for them physically (which would be great if I were an escort). I'm not just looking for the highest offer. If I'm going to spend time on anyone,Yes. This is good info.
HollywoodGuy
12-22-15, 18:50
I cut down mongering a lot. Thanks to SA or SD site! It is much safer to pick up girls.I am pretty familiar with the various hoods in L. A. , and back in the day, from my hometown. And the ONLY times I have ever had an encounter (except once) with LE was in my car.
And I understand the thrill of instant gratification that can be achieved through mongering, on the street, at an AMP or BP. But being a little older now I can wait to get what I want.
Plus once you have been sugaring for a while you end up with way more pussy and backup pussy than you can service anyway. So you do have to plan your dates. You cant just instantly have a girl at your house within 30 minutes any time you want, every time you want it. But enough times to make it well worth using this mode of hunting.
Just a couple days ago my ATF txted me the moment she was supposed to arrive and told me she had to cancel. I txted my backup, got lucky she was around, and was inside her an hour later. It doesnt always go as planned, but sometimes it goes better than planned.
HollywoodGuy
12-22-15, 20:07
There is nothing better than having vetted pussy delivered right to your doorstep by uber.
And then driving them home afterwards to show how much you care. Thank you Lord.
HollywoodGuy
12-22-15, 20:56
I currently have the phone number for 8 POTS. And the email for seven of them.
All agreed to the $ except the pro and the virgin.
18 black, a little nervous but willing to meet and talk.
18 black, waiting for her bday to come up first.
22 black, really tall, model body, far away, but ready for the FC.
19 black, in the hood, cute and shy but ready for the FC.
18 black, long shot due to x pro status, seen a post on BP a few months ago.
21 mixed, utr that's ready for the FC.
22 black, a real virgin, beeen talking for months already, no talk of sugar at all.
19 mixed, an average looking student, rockin body, wants to meet first.
I doubt any of them would turn me down when the pedal hits the metal
(except for the pro and the virgin)
First off, apologizes for the long post, I hope it will be as entertaining for readers as it was for me.
Last week, I had a run like I have never had before. I had set up meetings for Wednesday and Thursday. I knew I was repeating with a new addition on Tuesday. On Sunday, as I mentioned before, I drive down from up north where I have a FWB arrangement with a former SB. I was still horny and asked A to come over. BBBW AF who loves, loves, loves to fuck and suck and she likes it rougher than anyone I have been with. We bang it out for several hours having a great time. So good in fact, I invite her over the next day and she is more than happy to oblige.
She has a little patch of hair above her pussy. I love any kind of hair, something that tells me I am with a woman. She is incredibly responsive and I make her come a couple of times. She loves to kiss as well. At this point I had given her a total of. 5. She mentions that she needs to get a plane ticket to NYC and she hasn't done it yet. I offer the 1. And she turns it down! When she is leaving I ask her again and once again she is reluctant but takes it and texts me for the next couple days thanking me.
Tuesday I had already arranged to meet with my BBBW Latina (23) Picture A. She gives mindblowing oral and loves to fuck as well. She asks for the gift before getting here and I tell her I haven't been out to the bank. She is fine with that. When she gets here, I apologize again tell her she can have all that is in my wallet and she says "This (meaning fucking and hanging out) is just as good. " We go at it for a very long time and she is crazy tight. Her pussy squirms and gyrates like a mouth, I swear to God. It is incredible. She ends up letting me come in her mouth, (no swallow) and she loved it. A couple days later, she texts asking if I can help her with a dental bill. I have NEVER given a SB any money without service but I do for two reasons: I have seen her three times for a total of 130. I didn't have to take her out or ever get a hotel. She is also bi and wants to set up a three way with friends of hers. With the help, I am only about one visit short and on average with all the girls, I am running even. Also, Hell, it's the holidays.
Wednesday I had made arrangements to me with a larger Latina / Asian girl with a killer smile. Picture be and see. , I pick her up and she bounces up from the bench like the college girlfriend I always wish I had. We have pastries and coffee and she is bright and really funny. She's tall and has a great rack on her. We chat for a while and then I suggest heading back to know each other and she it completely up for it. She loves my music and that totally sells it. She is very intrigued that I love to eat pussy. These stupid boys are making our lives very easy. When she smiles she is so damn beautiful and she smiles a lot. Unfortunately, she isn't that into kissing and it's her time of the month. She apologizes but I don't really mind because I have been fucking for four days straight. Ha! Upper clothes come off on her, all my clothes come off and I focus on her breasts and body. She does kiss but not like one would want her to. She is ready to give me a BJ but she wants the condom and with all the action I have been having, I know that I am not going to stay hard at all, so I tell her just to give me a handjob. As Hollywood has said, 90% of the time, the HJ offer will lead to much more. She has no idea how to give a HJ, LOL! But she is totally into it. Getting completely turned on by my cock growing and it is like being in a college dorm. She is a bit of a time watcher. We play for a while longer and then call it an morning. She is very much into meeting again and texted me, "I loved when you were sucking on my tits and I cannot wait for you to lick my pussy. ".
Thursday I met up with a sexy Latina Picture DEE. Who I have spoken to on the phone. She is a little bigger than her pics, (no surprise) but sexy as hell and really fun. Although, as I found out, her positive attitude is a coping mechanism for some deep sadness. She wants a nice long romantic time, so we have some wine and relax and kiss for a long time but clothes come off quick. She is really responsive as well and multi-orgasmic. Great at oral too. I spend a lot of time with her and she is telling me just what she needs and damn, she is loud! Ha! She wants me to fuck her so I ride her for a good long time and she is loving it. She says she only gets off when watching porn so she starts watching it on her phone while I finger fuck her. She has the tightest pussy I have ever experienced. Just being one finger is enough. She is sopping wet and then screams so loud I have to cover her mouth. I go back to fucking her and pull off the hat and come on her stomach which she loves! I was supposed to meet someone Sunday, Monday and today, but came down with the flu which may have been a good thing.
HollywoodGuy
12-23-15, 02:48
I love long reports with pictures (the more graphic the better). Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
12-23-15, 03:00
Here is some copy I wrote and will probably never use again. I used it on a very hot girl that wanted $$$ a date. And that is good looking enough to get it here and there. I personally never negotiate but I must have been bored so I wrote her this reply.
"The only kind of girl that ever really gets with me, is someone that either has a good job, or another guy that they are playing for real, to pick up the part of the tab I can't handle. Or Both. So SD #1 is all about spending money and showing you off (because with a girl like you he can).
So if you have that then I would be SD #2 (unless you are really emotionally constructed to only be able to be with one guy at a time). If that's the case then I am SD #0. Because for what I pay ($100) no amount of emotional needs are going to keep you from your goal of getting ahead (and not just giving it)."
So if you like wearing them down throw that into your bag of comeback lines.
BTW... she is still talking to me, but I doubt it will go anywhere.
Pinche Gringo
12-23-15, 12:40
The OC is a difficult place to try to find a SB for 100-150. Here is a response I got recently from a lady. Imbedded in her response she is asking for $1600 a month. They are really full of them selves in the OC.
"Thank you for an actual email as well and for actually addressing my questions and concerns, communication among other factors are imperative to me. I respect your private and personal to say the least but thus far, I think we'd get along well. I don't judge and I'm not single, though I'm not married, the person I want to be with is currently in iraq so as we both pursue our own separate opportunities, its much easier to be supportive as a friend and its not fair to allow time apart to limit sexual pleasure as well, those are all important in any event we go through in life. I'm blunt and forward but I don't know what other word to use but being honest, excess income is my primary reason to be here. I do work a few jobs to support my way through my doctorate program and other goals, but I love what I do and those I get to work with and help, so I'm not looking to give any of that up. I sound busy but I manage and make time very well. I seek / need about 1600 extra monthly, I completely understand if that doesn't work for you, but that is one of a big concern / stress and factor for me here. But I also enjoy meeting new people and helping others although I'm not looking for anything near a relationship, just simple, quality companionship with one person with respect of our personal and professional life, where we can talk, and laugh and destress together. My professional reputation is imperative to me so I'm not open to jeopardizing that to say the least. Just look at me like an added pamper factor to all your hard work that you deserve and need to make time for solely yourself I can't host by the way, I'm sorry, not sure if that will be an issue for you other than an issue overall. My deal breakers for guys here seem to be that I'm not open to beyond nsa, that condom is necessary and that I'm not open to giving oral or anything painful. Again I also respect and understand if either or any is imperative to you. Trying to give you more of an idea of who I am. Friends and family would describe me as sweet, easy going, personable, big heart, ambitious, witty, weird and like one of the guys for me in order for this to work, we need to be one the same page with respect, communication, understanding and both parties should be content, comfortable and get what they need or desire or else why do it right?
HollywoodGuy
12-23-15, 15:49
The OC is a difficult place to try to find a SB for 100-150. Here is a response I got recently from a lady. Imbedded in her response she is asking for $1600 a month. They are really full of them selves in the OC.
"Thank you for an actual email as well and for actually addressing my questions and concerns, communication among other factors are imperative to me. I respect your private and personal to say the least but thus far, I think we'd get along well. I don't judge and I'm not single, though I'm not married, the person I want to be with is currently in iraq so as we both pursue our own separate opportunities, its much easier to be supportive as a friend and its not fair to allow time apart to limit sexual pleasure as well, those are all important in any event we go through in life. I'm blunt and forward but I don't know what other word to use but being honest, excess income is my primary reason to be here. I do work a few jobs to support my way through my doctorate program and other goals, but I love what I do and those I get to work with and help, so I'm not looking to give any of that up. I sound busy but I manage and make time very well. I seek / need about 1600 extra monthly, I completely understand if that doesn't work for you, but that is one of a big concern / stress and factor for me here. But I also enjoy meeting new people and helping others although I'm not looking for anything near a relationship, just simple, quality companionship with one person with respect of our personal and professional life, where we can talk, and laugh and destress together. My professional reputation is imperative to me so I'm not open to jeopardizing that to say the least. Just look at me like an added pamper factor to all your hard work that you deserve and need to make time for solely yourself I can't host by the way, I'm sorry, not sure if that will be an issue for you other than an issue overall. My deal breakers for guys here seem to be that I'm not open to beyond nsa, that condom is necessary and that I'm not open to giving oral or anything painful. Again I also respect and understand if either or any is imperative to you. Trying to give you more of an idea of who I am. Friends and family would describe me as sweet, easy going, personable, big heart, ambitious, witty, weird and like one of the guys for me in order for this to work, we need to be one the same page with respect, communication, understanding and both parties should be content, comfortable and get what they need or desire or else why do it right?First of all any super long response like this needs to be deleted immediately without even reading it. I didn't read it. Real girls don't write novels as a response. And there is action in the OC. Only look in the lower income areas. I mean Anaheim and santa ana alone could keep you busy for life.
HollywoodGuy
12-23-15, 15:56
I remember when I first went on this site. I was in awe of Baldy Cruiser and his many posts. And Cookie Jar, the Richmond SD Crew, and a few others. I don't want to say I am in their league, but I have learned a lot over the years. Thanks guys.
Pinche Gringo
12-23-15, 16:10
This was from a girl from Anaheim! The ladies that have agreed to 100 have all flaked and never showed up at the designated meet place. Oh well, some of us just don't have your game HG.
First of all any super long response like this needs to be deleted immediately without even reading it. I didn't read it. Real girls don't write novels as a response. And there is action in the OC. Only look in the lower income areas. I mean Anaheim and santa ana alone could keep you busy for life.
HollywoodGuy
12-23-15, 20:34
And Christophe1. I feel like I know my way around the AMP scene (due to your posts), or what to expect from asian fobs (if I ever decide to go that route).
And just another shout out to Cookie Jar. I have gotten so many good pics after realizing how much these girls love to pose due to your many insightfull & revealing posts and pics.
And Christophe1. I feel like I know my way around the AMP scene (due to your posts), or what to expect from asian fobs (if I ever decide to go that route).
And just another shout out to Cookie Jar. I have gotten so many good pics after realizing how much these girls love to pose due to your many insightfull & revealing posts and pics.If we are doing shout outs, we shouldn't forget Daddy Lows, the master of the $. 25 car BJ, or Vlad de Sade, who was forced to change his forum name for reasons still unbeknown to me. These were the big two when I first began lurking in the forum. And for photos, who can forget Misfit?
I remember when I first went on this site. I was in awe of Baldy Cruiser and his many posts. And Cookie Jar, the Richmond SD Crew, and a few others. I don't want to say I am in their league, but I have learned a lot over the years. Thanks guys.Wanted to express my thanks to HollywoodGuy for his insights and knowledge into the SB scene. It's been a really fun, wild ride the last couple of months. I've been mongering for a while, but this experience has been as thrilling and fulfilling as when I first started.
Krazeeeyez
12-23-15, 21:37
If you offer $50 for the date, then you pay the site $10. If she accepts your offer, you are obligated to pay her only $50 for the date. This ($50) normally gets me a lunch+movie date.
Most of the time, I have been able to negotiate to $100-150 for lunch+private time indoors. Still cheaper than SA.The success that you've had is that with all different kinds of girls or mostly black girls? I'm just curious. I joined the site yesterday and I've gotten a few offers from pretty hot white girls for $200.
I would never accept an offer that high, but I'm guessing most of the white girls are in that price range. My question is does the offer only lead to messaging? I would have a hard time justifying anything higher than $50 without knowing for sure that we could meet and negotiate in person. I like the talent better on WhatsYourPrice, but at least I know what I'm getting with Sdforme and the messaging is a fixed cost.
It also looks like many of these girls are only looking for free meals. Seems like you really have to do some reading between the lines to distinguish between time wasters and girls who are open to a per meet arrangement.
HollywoodGuy
12-23-15, 22:17
If we are doing shout outs, we shouldn't forget Daddy Lows, the master of the $. 25 car BJ, or Vlad de Sade, who was forced to change his forum name for reasons still unbeknown to me. These were the big two when I first began lurking in the forum. And for photos, who can forget Misfit?They must have all been before my time.
Ivonnahumpalot
12-24-15, 02:04
They must have all been before my time.Generous member who left a couple years ago. Shared info and posted pics routinely. Vetted more girls than anyone and was the driver of the non pro strategy many use. He deserves a hat tip. Too bad about him. I read a lot if the DL adventures in the old archives he was a mongering beast in the day.
The OC is a difficult place to try to find a SB for 100-150. Here is a response I got recently from a lady. Imbedded in her response she is asking for $1600 a month. They are really full of them selves in the OC.
"Thank you for an actual email as well and for actually addressing my questions and concerns, communication among other factors are imperative to me. I respect your private and personal to say the least but thus far, I think we'd get along well. I don't judge and I'm not single, though I'm not married, the person I want to be with is currently in iraq so as we both pursue our own separate opportunities, its much easier to be supportive as a friend and its not fair to allow time apart to limit sexual pleasure as well, those are all important in any event we go through in life. I'm blunt and forward but I don't know what other word to use but being honest, excess income is my primary reason to be here. I do work a few jobs to support my way through my doctorate program and other goals, but I love what I do and those I get to work with and help, so I'm not looking to give any of that up. I sound busy but I manage and make time very well. I seek / need about 1600 extra monthly, I completely understand if that doesn't work for you, but that is one of a big concern / stress and factor for me here. But I also enjoy meeting new people and helping others although I'm not looking for anything near a relationship, just simple, quality companionship with one person with respect of our personal and professional life, where we can talk, and laugh and destress together. My professional reputation is imperative to me so I'm not open to jeopardizing that to say the least. Just look at me like an added pamper factor to all your hard work that you deserve and need to make time for solely yourself I can't host by the way, I'm sorry, not sure if that will be an issue for you other than an issue overall. My deal breakers for guys here seem to be that I'm not open to beyond nsa, that condom is necessary and that I'm not open to giving oral or anything painful. Again I also respect and understand if either or any is imperative to you. Trying to give you more of an idea of who I am. Friends and family would describe me as sweet, easy going, personable, big heart, ambitious, witty, weird and like one of the guys for me in order for this to work, we need to be one the same page with respect, communication, understanding and both parties should be content, comfortable and get what they need or desire or else why do it right?She was busting the thesaurus and found the hardest words she could find. Her use of "imperative" is very funny. Like she's trying to sound smart.
HollywoodGuy
12-24-15, 20:51
I just ubered a 19 year old mixed girl from way out in the valley (like 30 miles one way) for a 3 hour M&G at my place. And ubered her home. So .6 for the uber, but for 120 miles double RT this is the only way for me to go these days. I could have had an FC visit but kept it light (and sans donation) as I am seeing my ATF in a couple more hours. So just some light kissing and feeling up OTC to see if there was any spark there.
She wasnt exactly my type (although close enough), but I do believe I will see her again, as the next time will be just a straight up FC date for a $. She is middle class so she wasnt just pouncing on me like a girl from the hood would be to get the cash. Mommy and Daddy are still footing the bills. So the pressure was off and I told her I had a date later with my ATF, so I had to conserve.
Funny side note. I have yet to meet and don't know a young black girl that is not all in for the Donald. People are going to be surprised if he actually does run when they see the % of the black vote he will get. These girls just see hillary as an uppity white woman trying to tell them what to do, and since they probably are naturally more drawn to the daddy type figure (well you can guess the rest). Just an unscientific observation on my part.
So we chatted and touched and talked about business (as she actually was bright). It always throws me off a little when I don't get right down to the real business with these girls, but we ended it on a sexy note, so we can just pick it up right from there on the next date. Which she seemed very excited about. And I managed to get a one hour foot massage as well. So it was a good way to kill some time until the real fireworks tonite.
Bill D. Cat
12-25-15, 10:52
The success that you've had is that with all different kinds of girls or mostly black girls? I'm just curious. I joined the site yesterday and I've gotten a few offers from pretty hot white girls for $200.
I would never accept an offer that high, but I'm guessing most of the white girls are in that price range. My question is does the offer only lead to messaging? I would have a hard time justifying anything higher than $50 without knowing for sure that we could meet and negotiate in person. I like the talent better on WhatsYourPrice, but at least I know what I'm getting with Sdforme and the messaging is a fixed cost.
It also looks like many of these girls are only looking for free meals. Seems like you really have to do some reading between the lines to distinguish between time wasters and girls who are open to a per meet arrangement.I started to join whatsyourprice but stopped when I got to the background check. With all of the hacking going on out there, I don't need my name, address, phone number, and social security number (WTF?) being out there for all of the bad guys to access if they hacked this site.
Did you use an alias for the background check? Do you feel safe having that info out there on a dating website? Please let me know if there are some obvious work-arounds that you may have used.
Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
12-25-15, 15:41
I started to join whatsyourprice but stopped when I got to the background check. With all of the hacking going on out there, I don't need my name, address, phone number, and social security number (WTF?) being out there for all of the bad guys to access if they hacked this site.
Did you use an alias for the background check? Do you feel safe having that info out there on a dating website? Please let me know if there are some obvious work-arounds that you may have used.
Thanks.SSN? . Never been on that site. But I don't give that out to anyone. Period. If I see it on any form that doesn't have to do with a loan, then there is no reason for anyone to have it ever. Scammy.
HollywoodGuy
12-26-15, 03:30
For foot lovers only.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6028-Photography-getting-her-to-pose&p=2732028&posted=1#post2732028.
Krazeeeyez
12-26-15, 16:56
SSN? . Never been on that site. But I don't give that out to anyone. Period. If I see it on any form that doesn't have to do with a loan, then there is no reason for anyone to have it ever. Scammy.Yeah, I'm not sure how far Bill the. Cat got into the process, but I didn't have to give any info for the basic account I created. No real name, address or credit card number and definitely no SSN.
Did they ask for a background to create a premium account, Bill? I've seen accounts listed as premium and maybe they do a background check on those.
Perhaps Discreet1965 can fill us in on what he needed to do to finalize an offer. I find it hard to believe they'd get very many users if everyone had to give enough info for a full background check. It'd definitely be safer, but not good for business.
Yeah, I'm not sure how far Bill the. Cat got into the process, but I didn't have to give any info for the basic account I created. No real name, address or credit card number and definitely no SSN.
Did they ask for a background to create a premium account, Bill? I've seen accounts listed as premium and maybe they do a background check on those.
Perhaps Discreet1965 can fill us in on what he needed to do to finalize an offer. I find it hard to believe they'd get very many users if everyone had to give enough info for a full background check. It'd definitely be safer, but not good for business.Never had to give SSN. Just had to make sure address (fake) was the same as how I had registered my gift card to pay (also fake).
I created a free basic account couple weeks ago on WYP site. As of this week, I'm sitting on multiple date offers ranging from $5 (yes, five dollars) to $200. I haven't paid any money as yet but I was notified that I'll need to buy credits to move forward from this point. So far they haven't asked me anything remotely connected to SSN. But, I'll keep posted as to how this develops!
Yeah, I'm not sure how far Bill the. Cat got into the process, but I didn't have to give any info for the basic account I created. No real name, address or credit card number and definitely no SSN.
Did they ask for a background to create a premium account, Bill? I've seen accounts listed as premium and maybe they do a background check on those.
Perhaps Discreet1965 can fill us in on what he needed to do to finalize an offer. I find it hard to believe they'd get very many users if everyone had to give enough info for a full background check. It'd definitely be safer, but not good for business.
Bill D. Cat
12-27-15, 13:02
Yeah, I'm not sure how far Bill the. Cat got into the process, but I didn't have to give any info for the basic account I created. No real name, address or credit card number and definitely no SSN.
Did they ask for a background to create a premium account, Bill? I've seen accounts listed as premium and maybe they do a background check on those.
Perhaps Discreet1965 can fill us in on what he needed to do to finalize an offer. I find it hard to believe they'd get very many users if everyone had to give enough info for a full background check. It'd definitely be safer, but not good for business.As soon as I got to the page asking me for my phone number, address, SSN, etc. , I backed the hell out of there and stopped the process. If I recall correctly, I got to that page when I was going to buy some credits to check out the personals. Like I said, I didn't go any further than that.
I might go back and see if there is another way to join without having to giving up my personal info (use fake name and addy perhaps?
Bill D. Cat
12-27-15, 13:04
I created a free basic account couple weeks ago on WYP site. As of this week, I'm sitting on multiple date offers ranging from $5 (yes, five dollars) to $200. I haven't paid any money as yet but I was notified that I'll need to buy credits to move forward from this point. So far they haven't asked me anything remotely connected to SSN. But, I'll keep posted as to how this develops!I also created a free account. Maybe my mistake was trying to buy credits right off the bat. I will check to see if my profile allows me access to the ads like you saw.
Thanks for the info, Lebruno.
Bill D. Cat
12-27-15, 13:13
I guess the background check page showed up when I tried to upgrade to a premium membership for $50. Going back just now, I noticed that the profiles were available for me to view. The only thing I need to do is get my profile approved (first time was denied because I was openly asking for girls in exchange for cash). I've changed the profile and will resume searching soon.
Thanks for the info on this website. Might be a goldmine, might not be. I'll definitely post when I've gotten more info.
Does anyone else find the "Search" function on SA to be a pain? I have saved searches but it never brings me back to that criteria. It's like they are prop buttons in a movie. The site itself has been an amazing resource for inexpensive to free pussy, so no complaints there.
HollywoodGuy
12-27-15, 16:51
Does anyone else find the "Search" function on SA to be a pain? I have saved searches but it never brings me back to that criteria. It's like they are prop buttons in a movie. The site itself has been an amazing resource for inexpensive to free pussy, so no complaints there.I have not had any problems with the saved searches. You may want to delete them and start a new one. Just one to make sure its working correctly.
Spent four hours in the FC between Christmas eve and Christmas with my taller than life black barbie.HG I also spent the Christmas holiday with my super tall currant best FWB. So your picture really caught my eye. I had to look twice at your picture not only because of the see-through dress. But also the electrical cord that seem to snake up between her legs and disappear up her dress. Looking more closely I see its a cord to a blender or some kitchen devise behind her. LOL.
Bottom line got to to love long legs wrapped around you a few times, when you are in the throws of passion.
Happy holidays to you HollywoodGuy.
HollywoodGuy
12-27-15, 17:32
HG I also spent the Christmas holiday with my super tall currant best FWB. So your picture really caught my eye. I had to look twice at your picture not only because of the see-through dress. But also the electrical cord that seem to snake up between her legs and disappear up her dress. Looking more closely I see its a cord to a blender or some kitchen devise behind her. LOL.
Bottom line got to to love long legs wrapped around you a few times, when you are in the throws of passion.
Happy holidays to you HollywoodGuy.Yeah I need to get a couple more pics of her in that dress (and get her a couple more just like it). That cord needs to be out of the way next time (its a humidifier on the counter).
But that shot was sort of spontaneous, and I was just so happy to get it that I didn't think about staging the area first.
HollywoodGuy
12-27-15, 18:52
I have been doing my typical year end budgeting for all of next year, for my business and for my home expenses. As I have now been with my ATF for well over a year, the SB creep has pushed her allowance up to the point of having to make a decision.
Do I keep her or cut her loose?
So I have decided to keep her. Logic tells me its a no brainer. She is reliable, loyal, skillful and very durable. lol. I started her on a monthly allowance of 8 bills a month (plus some extras), but we always seem to go over budget lately. So I have decided to go all in and raise her to 1.5k a month. That will include all transportation costs (which are high due to the distance). And all other costs except straight up gifts of clothing I want her to wear in the FC. She has averaged 8 visits a month since the day we started, but lately as I have spent more she has worked hard to get it up to 10 visits a month.
I don't really want or need to see her more than 10 times a month as I need room for my UTR who is already at about 6 visits a month. That only leaves room for an average of 4 random visits a month if I need them. And I will need them because you never know when the shit can hit the fan. You've got to have a boy scout mentality to stay in this game without any dry spells. Because you can't order up a long term SB like a pizza.
HeartofaLion
12-28-15, 01:15
Your utr girl has good feet. I remember you once brought your Ex to my foot party but I didn't have a chance to session her. Ibremember she was a beautiful girl.
1. 5 K / month sounds like a lot. But considering that you average 10 sessions / month with a skillful, reliable, hot and durable babe is well worth it! LOL.
I have been doing my typical year end budgeting for all of next year, for my business and for my home expenses. As I have now been with my ATF for well over a year, the SB creep has pushed her allowance up to the point of having to make a decision.
Do I keep her or cut her loose?
So I have decided to keep her. Logic tells me its a no brainer. She is reliable, loyal, skillful and very durable. lol. I started her on a monthly allowance of 8 bills a month (plus some extras), but we always seem to go over budget lately. So I have decided to go all in and raise her to 1.5k a month. That will include all transportation costs (which are high due to the distance). And all other costs except straight up gifts of clothing I want her to wear in the FC. She has averaged 8 visits a month since the day we started, but lately as I have spent more she has worked hard to get it up to 10 visits a month.
I don't really want or need to see her more than 10 times a month as I need room for my UTR who is already at about 6 visits a month. That only leaves room for an average of 4 random visits a month if I need them. And I will need them because you never know when the shit can hit the fan. You've got to have a boy scout mentality to stay in this game without any dry spells. Because you can't order up a long term SB like a pizza.
HollywoodGuy
12-28-15, 13:19
Your utr girl has good feet. I remember you once brought your Ex to my foot party but I didn't have a chance to session her. I remember she was a beautiful girl.All true. But today I had to choose, a reliable girl over my x. Who isn't.
HollywoodGuy
12-28-15, 13:22
1. 5 K / month sounds like a lot. But considering that you average 10 sessions / month with a skillful, reliable, hot and durable babe is well worth it! LOL.It is a lot. But I am too tired to go running around these days. I need a someone or two that can jump on very short notice, be on time, and no drama. That has to outweigh the chance for a lot of variety lately. And her price is not low, but not unreasonable. My UTR is at a straight $ a date including the uber. So that helps balance things out a bit.
HG. Uber in Vegas is finally getting cheap and a light bulb went off and I realized it be better to uber a girl over than go out to the hood and get her. Anyhow, I've never actually used uber and was wondering how you let the driver know he won't be picking you up and you don't let them change the destination, this is still Vegas? Thanks.
HG. Uber in Vegas is finally getting cheap and a light bulb went off and I realized it be better to uber a girl over than go out to the hood and get her. Anyhow, I've never actually used uber and was wondering how you let the driver know he won't be picking you up and you don't let them change the destination, this is still Vegas? Thanks.I don't think there's a way for her to use your account unless she had the app on her phone and access to your account info. And I certainty wouldn't be willing to share that with her.
I was talking to a Uber driver and he told me about this chick who got dumped by her BF. She and a GF hopped in a Uber car and they drove out to Vegas. They too a pic infront of the Bellagio fountain and then drove back to LA. It cost the guy something like $1500.
HollywoodGuy
12-28-15, 18:21
HG. Uber in Vegas is finally getting cheap and a light bulb went off and I realized it be better to uber a girl over than go out to the hood and get her. Anyhow, I've never actually used uber and was wondering how you let the driver know he won't be picking you up and you don't let them change the destination, this is still Vegas? Thanks.Once you use it a few times it will all make sense. And yeah, from the hood or where ever. I just can't drive much these days. If you totally calculate the hard money cost alone its worth it. Factor in driving time, places you would rather not be, and the girl feeling all special. And its a no brainer for me.
HollywoodGuy
12-29-15, 11:59
One thing I love about SA is that they drop all the profiles that are inactive after 1 year. I don't recall SD4M ever dropping a profile no matter how old it is.
HeartofaLion
12-30-15, 22:14
Once you use it a few times it will all make sense. And yeah, from the hood or where ever. I just can't drive much these days. If you totally calculate the hard money cost alone its worth it. Factor in driving time, places you would rather not be, and the girl feeling all special. And its a no brainer for me.Yeah. I like that idea. The girl feeling all special.
Discreet1965
12-30-15, 22:40
I always pay for dating sites using USPS money order, since I am married. Sure worked out well for my Ashley Madison account.
I never had to give any information except my yahoo discreet email address. Fake name and real email on the money order.
You just need credits to make an offer. No need for background check.
Yeah, I'm not sure how far Bill the. Cat got into the process, but I didn't have to give any info for the basic account I created. No real name, address or credit card number and definitely no SSN.
Did they ask for a background to create a premium account, Bill? I've seen accounts listed as premium and maybe they do a background check on those.
Perhaps Discreet1965 can fill us in on what he needed to do to finalize an offer. I find it hard to believe they'd get very many users if everyone had to give enough info for a full background check. It'd definitely be safer, but not good for business.
Discreet1965
12-30-15, 22:44
I am in a Latina area (oxnard / ventura) and mostly date latina's. If they do not accept $50 for a coffee / lunch date. You ain't getting it all for less than 150.
The market favors us, so just be patient.
The success that you've had is that with all different kinds of girls or mostly black girls? I'm just curious. I joined the site yesterday and I've gotten a few offers from pretty hot white girls for $200.
I would never accept an offer that high, but I'm guessing most of the white girls are in that price range. My question is does the offer only lead to messaging? I would have a hard time justifying anything higher than $50 without knowing for sure that we could meet and negotiate in person. I like the talent better on WhatsYourPrice, but at least I know what I'm getting with Sdforme and the messaging is a fixed cost.
It also looks like many of these girls are only looking for free meals. Seems like you really have to do some reading between the lines to distinguish between time wasters and girls who are open to a per meet arrangement.
HollywoodGuy
12-31-15, 14:03
I am in a Latina area (oxnard / ventura) and mostly date latina's. If they do not accept $50 for a coffee / lunch date. You ain't getting it all for less than 150.
The market favors us, so just be patient.I have noticed a lot of cute young latinas way out in the west valley or further up to santa barbara. I wish I had a way to get there. But even when I was driving a lot, its just too far from hollywood to make the trip. Glad someone is mining that gold.
I always pay for dating sites using USPS money order, since I am married. Sure worked out well for my Ashley Madison account.
I never had to give any information except my yahoo discreet email address. Fake name and real email on the money order.
You just need credits to make an offer. No need for background check.Ill have to try the money order thing. I was also trying out AM, but of course used a fake email. Hard to believe people would use their real emails or work emails for that.
HollywoodGuy
01-02-16, 15:17
Ill have to try the money order thing. I was also trying out AM, but of course used a fake email. Hard to believe people would use their real emails or work emails for that.And thank god the girls do. About a third of the time their email handle will lead to their FB, IG or what ever.
And thank god the girls do. About a third of the time their email handle will lead to their FB, IG or what ever.Yeah, a lot of them aren't very savvy or careful. Also, consider installing apps like WhatsApp, Line, Kik, and wechat (if they're Asian). If you have their number in your phone and they have an account on any of those apps, they should pop up. Sometimes helps to pick up further info on them (like names, other possible handles, etc.).
I will say you really have to work the numbers espec. If you are on a budget.
Was up north visiting family alone so on the drive home, I contacted a few on SA and gave them the Bat phone number. One was having a rough day with family and we started texting about when we could meet in the coming week.
At one point she mentioned wishing we could meet if only for a quicky in the back of her car "Kidding. (Not really! Wow! Since my arrival time had a large window with SO, I told her, how about when I get back ("Not kidding".
Lot of flirty texting the whole way and she almost backed out, thinking we should do a proper meet first ("But I am way BEYOND worked up! I told her that to not let go would be cruel to both of us and I promised a "from scratch" meet this week.
Got in town, met her in a parking lot and we drove off to find a side street. She said she really needed a diversion from events at home and I obliged. Started with a lot of feeling, groping and eventually she climbed on top of me BB and got herself off twice before blowing me to a stunning conclusion.
Have to say it's been a long time since I've done it in the back seat. Would prefer a hotel but.
I brought her back to her car, we set up the time for the "proper" meet and greet. She said she really had needed that and was glad I didn't let her talk herself out of it. Oh, did I mention that no money exchanged hands??
I have a long list of POT's plus a repeat from my first already scheduled. Bummer is I have to renew and not at the discounted intro rate I got for the first month. Oh well.
HollywoodGuy
01-02-16, 21:37
I ditched all my girls except for two regs and one very random girl. Its weird not having my phone blowing up all day. Scoping out a few pots. One looks really good, actually two. I see all the new year girls. Mostly they are saying substantial. LOL. Unless they are white or 18 I don't even pay attention.
HollywoodGuy
01-03-16, 22:11
The response rate on SA right now is really high, but so are their expectations.
I had such a run a couple weeks ago, I had to put the brakes on. I am not a once a day man at all and I had a different woman four days in a row with one day seeing two women a couple hours apart. This knock out (See pics) contacted me and seemed good to go. She was fine with the meet and if we click HJ for $. She had a great personality thru texts and I thought it would be very fun. We met up at a higher end but not HIGH end restaurant and she looked like a million bucks. She has an incredible body and looked like her pictures. She was picky about her food but we were having a good time. Then she drops that she is looking for 3 grand a month or $$ a session. I tried and tried to get to come back with the limited menu that I had emailed her and at one point she faltered but then stayed firm. It really was one of those moments when I wish I could have seen if HG could have closed the deal. She had texted about gas money which I didn't see until later and glad I didn't respond. So I was out. 5 but really, I had a great dinner and she was very good company. Still, I was revved up and as soon as I got in my car texted all my other SB's and low and behold one was available. So I ubered her over and we had a great time. She is the shyest thing but so, s o sexy. We had a great time and the last time together I felt like she was a bit of a clock watcher, so I asked her not to worry about it this time and she was ready to fall asleep in my arms. Sleep satisfied. Have a ton of ones lined up, I just don't have the stamina. Seeing my 18 yr old artist this weekend and we may have another girl join us.
HollywoodGuy
01-05-16, 16:56
I had such a run a couple weeks ago, I had to put the brakes on. I am not a once a day man at all and I had a different woman four days in a row with one day seeing two women a couple hours apart. This knock out (See pics) contacted me and seemed good to go. She was fine with the meet and if we click HJ for $. She had a great personality thru texts and I thought it would be very fun. We met up at a higher end but not HIGH end restaurant and she looked like a million bucks. She has an incredible body and looked like her pictures. She was picky about her food but we were having a good time. Then she drops that she is looking for 3 grand a month or $$ a session. I tried and tried to get to come back with the limited menu that I had emailed her and at one point she faltered but then stayed firm. It really was one of those moments when I wish I could have seen if HG could have closed the deal. She had texted about gas money which I didn't see until later and glad I didn't respond. So I was out. 5 but really, I had a great dinner and she was very good company. Still, I was revved up and as soon as I got in my car texted all my other SB's and low and behold one was available. So I ubered her over and we had a great time. She is the shyest thing but so, s o sexy. We had a great time and the last time together I felt like she was a bit of a clock watcher, so I asked her not to worry about it this time and she was ready to fall asleep in my arms. Sleep satisfied. Have a ton of ones lined up, I just don't have the stamina. Seeing my 18 yr old artist this weekend and we may have another girl join us.Seems we have opposite taste in women, but I never negotiate dude. Thats all done via email. Once the deal is closed then I do the M&G. They can still opt for the no sex, no money date as it is their prerogative. I did go on 3 of those dates in the last 2 months, but none of them floated my boat. And I am only interested in closing deals with my specific type. None of them were. So I am just sticking to my ATF and UTR for now. That's 20 dates right there a month, I just got word from on high that my recent performance at work has been weak. Being crippled will do that to you. The only upside is all the girls feel sorry for me being in pain all the time. I think its making my UTR show me some real sympathy. And after 20 dates we are starting to hit our groove.
Seems we have opposite taste in women, but I never negotiate dude. Thats all done via email. Once the deal is closed then I do the M&G. They can still opt for the no sex, no money date as it is their prerogative. I did go on 3 of those dates in the last 2 months, but none of them floated my boat. And I am only interested in closing deals with my specific type. None of them were. So I am just sticking to my ATF and UTR for now. That's 20 dates right there a month, I just got word from on high that my recent performance at work has been weak. Being crippled will do that to you. The only upside is all the girls feel sorry for me being in pain all the time. I think its making my UTR show me some real sympathy. And after 20 dates we are starting to hit our groove.That's basically what this was, I just didn't know it. She had her agenda and she freely admitted she would have to be more upfront in her add, so I give her that. I like all sorts of sizes, but a huge rack like that does turn me on. I love spinner, they just don't seem to click with me as much.
Seems we have opposite taste in women, but I never negotiate dude. Thats all done via email. Once the deal is closed then I do the M&G. They can still opt for the no sex, no money date as it is their prerogative. I did go on 3 of those dates in the last 2 months, but none of them floated my boat. And I am only interested in closing deals with my specific type. None of them were. So I am just sticking to my ATF and UTR for now. That's 20 dates right there a month, I just got word from on high that my recent performance at work has been weak. Being crippled will do that to you. The only upside is all the girls feel sorry for me being in pain all the time. I think its making my UTR show me some real sympathy. And after 20 dates we are starting to hit our groove.Aren't you in a position to retire? I did, and my pension pays me as much as when I was working. I can't pick up any extra when I need it like when I was working but my basics are covered and my expenses are lower.
HollywoodGuy
01-06-16, 04:56
Aren't you in a position to retire? I did, and my pension pays me as much as when I was working. I can't pick up any extra when I need it like when I was working but my basics are covered and my expenses are lower.I can not retire. I do have a knack for making money, but I also have one for spending it. So for now I will keep working. It's all at home and I am a partner in the company so its pretty chill. And I love love love my job. My mom is 89 and works everyday. So maybe its in my blood. But I don't see myself ever retiring. There are just too many fun ways to make money. And even if I did retire I would have to tell every girl that I still worked. As I use that as an excuse anytime to be able to schedule around any situation. And we are in a soon to be growing faster economy. I don't want to miss out on that. HC or DT, it doesn't matter. Just get rid of Mr. O and its all going to be fine. But the bottom line is I have been a business owner for 46 years and owned 5 different companys. I never had a retirement account big enough to kick back on. Gonna work on that over the next 10 years. If I kick off before then. No big deal as my income affords me a comfortable life (and I ditched marriage almost 20 years ago). So its just all about having fun, working (which is fun), and being comfortable in my own skin.
Now down to business. One of my saved searches on SA that usually pulls about 6 to 8 new girls a day is up to like 16 new girls a day the last two days in a row. I am telling you that this is the biggest month for internet dating hopefuls. And that's the only caveat. Most of these girls are a little too hopeful. But not all. So happy hunting guys.
Discreet1965
01-06-16, 17:17
I just logged onto AM after more than a year away. Noticed that they have a new gift card trade in. Trade in a walmart or starbucks $50 gift card for 100 credits. I wonder why everyone stopped using credit cards on their site.
Ill have to try the money order thing. I was also trying out AM, but of course used a fake email. Hard to believe people would use their real emails or work emails for that.
HollywoodGuy
01-07-16, 04:08
I just logged onto AM after more than a year away. Noticed that they have a new gift card trade in. Trade in a walmart or starbucks $50 gift card for 100 credits. I wonder why everyone stopped using credit cards on their site.I wonder why any guy would join a site where the men outnumber the women by 10 to 1 ?
I wonder why any guy would join a site where the men outnumber the women by 10 to 1 ?Plus I read, although HG you might have the most accurate information, that AM actually gained more members after the security breach fiasco and the revelations that the site was more phony than real. Why in the fk-ing world would any Man join up under those circumstances? I don't mean that as a rhetorical question. I really would like some insight from any fellow Members who have thoughts about this subject.
HollywoodGuy
01-07-16, 14:29
Plus I read, although HG you might have the most accurate information, that AM actually gained more members after the security breach fiasco and the revelations that the site was more phony than real. Why in the fk-ing world would any Man join up under those circumstances? I don't mean that as a rhetorical question. I really would like some insight from any fellow Members who have thoughts about this subject.It's called desperation. A lot of married guys (not all of them) have it.
No offence to those that are.
HollywoodGuy
01-09-16, 04:26
Batting 8 for 8 so far this month. My ATF and UTR are trying to monopolize all my time. These girls aren't stupid. LOL. I need stability right now and they are providing it in the best possible way. Plus they know all about each other and have sent messages to each other through me. So its all good in the hood.
BbbjAddiction
01-09-16, 10:19
Batting 8 for 8 so far this month. My ATF and UTR are trying to monopolize all my time. These girls aren't stupid. LOL. I need stability right now and they are providing it in the best possible way. Plus they know all about each other and have sent messages to each other through me. So its all good in the hood.Sounds like you got it going on. Teach me your ways LOL.
HollywoodGuy
01-09-16, 15:31
Sounds like you got it going on. Teach me your ways LOL.Go to the richmond va sugar daddy thread and read up.
HollywoodGuy
01-11-16, 05:30
This month looks like another month of ATF and UTR on alternating days. I have my ATF at $.25 and my UTR at a $ flat. But that's not counting uber. Which is coming to about $$$$ a month right now. I can make it up just working harder. So bottom line for everything is 20 dates for 2.5 k a month including uber.
That's with no random dates or civi dating. I am willing to go another $$$$ a month and see what develops So far I am civi dating my x Haitian roommate and I am flying down my lez hawaiin teen for $$ to stay here for a week. I will be lucky to get one maybe two FC dates out her. One for sure and a week of company. I,m lonely so the company is appreciated. I am sure I will civi date my x roomy once a week anyway. So the usual 3k a month for now. Its imperative I stay on budget this year. Still 10 for 10 by the 10th.
Was talking with a very attractive Hispanic chica who was "very interested" and how I'd "be perfect" for her blah blah. So I made her give me a per meet to which she replied $500 (plus she can't host).
At that point I said we'd better part civilly but she pressed for a number. I hit her with the usual $100 to which she replied that I am on the wrong site, that I should search BP under ESCORT (her capitalization).
I told her she might be right that an escort who asks for $100 might be on BP but an escort who asks for $500 would either be on TER or CV and, which one are you on?!
Man, the way these chicks justify. SMH.
HollywoodGuy
01-11-16, 23:20
Was talking with a very attractive Hispanic chica who was "very interested" and how I'd "be perfect" for her blah blah. So I made her give me a per meet to which she replied $500 (plus she can't host).
At that point I said we'd better part civilly but she pressed for a number. I hit her with the usual $100 to which she replied that I am on the wrong site, that I should search BP under ESCORT (her capitalization).
I told her she might be right that an escort who asks for $100 might be on BP but an escort who asks for $500 would either be on TER or CV and, which one are you on?!
Man, the way these chicks justify. SMH.I get way more no's than yes's, that's for sure. Good thing there is an endless supply of affordable pussy on SA. My UTR finally got her period (today), so I don't have to see her till Sunday. And I just did 11 out of 11 days this month anyway. Today I was just going through the motions. I am sexed out (at least for her). I'll see my ATF twice in the next 5 days. So I can either work 12 hours a day in between or maybe find the time for a M&G. And I do have a couple I could go on. But my dick needs a rest. And with a 50% success rate on a first meet I would hate to let anyone down. Tough world we live in. I don't ever remember feeling like this when I was married. The one thing I hate more than anything is waiting on pussy. It can really mess with my mood.
And I started civi dating my x Haitian roommate. She got her own place not too far away. She knows all about my ATF and UTR, etc. She is just happy for some company and conversation. We do a mutual massage (legit) and just chill out. Sex is not guaranteed on the menu with her. And I dont have to pay for anything unless we go out. Which won't be happening tonite. So she can hang till maybe 10, I can go get a little more work done, and then hit the sack and give mine a rest for a day or two.
The Tall Man
01-12-16, 12:46
I am civi dating my X roommate. 34. 5'7" 116 She is very sweet. For now she is my GF.Sweet looking slender gal, good choice!
The Tall Man.
Was talking with a very attractive Hispanic chica who was "very interested" and how I'd "be perfect" for her blah blah. So I made her give me a per meet to which she replied $500 (plus she can't host).
At that point I said we'd better part civilly but she pressed for a number. I hit her with the usual $100 to which she replied that I am on the wrong site, that I should search BP under ESCORT (her capitalization).
I told her she might be right that an escort who asks for $100 might be on BP but an escort who asks for $500 would either be on TER or CV and, which one are you on?!
Man, the way these chicks justify. SMH.I was talking with this one slender (sort of trashy looking) WSB. She hit me up so I played along with no intention of seeing her of course. We chat explicitly about coitus and the like. She gives me access to her priv photos which were all trashy on counter top naked in hotel room type photos. I tell her no more than $ per visit and she tells me, "I am a SB not a HOE" and that I need to learn the difference. So I replied, "Well you did just agree to let me fuck your brains out for the right $ (her words) until you heard the offer. All that really does is make you a high-priced HOE...Right!
She blocked me LMFAO.
Was talking with a very attractive Hispanic chica who was "very interested" and how I'd "be perfect" for her blah blah. So I made her give me a per meet to which she replied $500 (plus she can't host).
At that point I said we'd better part civilly but she pressed for a number. I hit her with the usual $100 to which she replied that I am on the wrong site, that I should search BP under ESCORT (her capitalization).
I told her she might be right that an escort who asks for $100 might be on BP but an escort who asks for $500 would either be on TER or CV and, which one are you on?!
Man, the way these chicks justify. SMH.It's YOUR fault for treating her like an escort in the first place.
Only ESCORTS have hourly rates. A sugar baby should be treated differently.
You shot yourself in the foot.
HollywoodGuy
01-12-16, 21:59
It's YOUR fault for treating her like an escort in the first place.
Only ESCORTS have hourly rates. A sugar baby should be treated differently.
You shot yourself in the foot.Or she could have been an escort trying to pass herself off as something different. There has been a lot of that going around for a few years now and it is actually increasing as awareness of the SD sites is growing in the escort community. Just my opinion. But I encounter similar exchanges at least once a month myself.
Christophe1
01-12-16, 22:29
It's YOUR fault for treating her like an escort in the first place.
Only ESCORTS have hourly rates. A sugar baby should be treated differently.
You shot yourself in the foot.GM is a guru.
HollywoodGuy
01-12-16, 22:37
GM is a guru.I don't doubt that as I have read many of his posts. But working on an SD site and blowing through dozens or even hundreds (in my case thousands) of girls doesn't always leave time for the niceties that would assuage or persuade a prospect to do what you want them to do. Especially on a walmart budget. Love you guys. Lets keep the stories and advice flowing.
I know there are a lot of guys that read this thread but do not contribute, as I get a few PM's here and there from them. So chime in guys. There is no requirement for membership except a desire to bang more pussy.
ESPECIALLY for those of you guys on a WalMart budget, you need to STOP treating sugar babies and non-pros like escorts.
What so many mongers fail to understand is that SBs and NPs offer the best of all worlds, and should be treated so much differently than hookers.
1. You get sex with no strings attached.
2. You get hardcore GFE porn sex.
3. You pay very very little for what you get in return (if you work it correctly).
4. You can get a girl to hang out at your house all weekend sucking your dick, bending over for you at will, showering with you, massaging you, playing dress up for you, massaging your balls, all for the same price or less than a 1-hour date on HX.
Sure occasionally some 'ho will try to pass herself off as an innocent girl, but if you've been in the game for more than 6 months you can spot these ones a mile away.
For the other 99% of girls on sugar daddy websites, just treat her like a normal person. Take her out to dinner, have fun, get her back to your place, fuck her in the mouth, and then AFTER you've drained your balls into her various holes, then you start talking about money.
If you start negotiating hourly rates over email before you've even met her, then you've already lost. You're a mark, and she hates you.
At the risk of alienating most everybody who is reading this, here is how I've heard it going down:
You finally get a girl on seekinng arranngement to answer your ad. You get all excited and start bombarding her with texts and emails, which from her point of view are annoying, especially since all you say is "How much?" You probably even ask her if she offers BBBJ, Greek, and MSOG, and she's starting to wonder why the fuck she ever signed up to this stupid website. She wants a man to sweep her off her feet and help her with her bills, not some undersexed nerd who wants to negotiate sexual positions over email.
The only thing she knows about you is the blurry picture and generic profile, so she hits you with a $500 offer. To both of you, that's a lot of money, and negotiations break down because she knows you can't afford it. You counter with $100, she balks, and you have another night at home alone stroking yourself.
REMEMBER YOU DON'T NEED TO BE RICH, YOU JUST NEED TO BE RICHER THAN HER.
If you want to rent a girl by the hour, go to HX. THere are 1,000 girls who can be had for $300 or less. Per hour.
Or, for the same price or less, you can have a pencil spinner college girl with daddy issues spending a whole weekend with you. But you have to treat her like a human, and not a HX cumdumpster. Keep your audience in mind. Why did this stupid girl sign up to SA? Because she wants to service dozens of horny nerds every week at $100 per hour? OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING DORK, GET IT TOGETHER.
She signed up because she wants the fantasy of dating a man who is going to take care of her financially. So give her the fantasy. Flirt with her, ask her about her favorite restaurant and then TAKE HER THERE. 99% chance it will be something shitty like Red Lobster. Yeah, you might have to pay $50 for dinner and not get laid that night. Try to think long-term, and not just about what your dick is going to be doing that night.
Present yourself as a "rich" boyfriend, but NEVER BRING UP MONEY UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE PUT SOMETHING INSIDE HER.
PRO TIP: If she brings up money, act annoyed and disgusted, and make a point of talking about how you don't want a hooker. You're a busy professional with no time for relationships, and you thought she was better than that.
Oh, and I just realized that all this probably only applies to single guys who have the time, inclination, and social skills to pull it off. If you're married, or if you're a hopeless nerd, you're better off just getting HX girls for 30 minutes at a time.
But if you want the world to be your sexual playground, for relatively little money, then you need to identify your targets and act appropriately.
I recently had a confused young girl spend the entire night at my house with her ankles next to her ears, who thanked me PROFUSELY the next morning because I paid her $63 phone bill. Think back to when you were 19 and broke and how a little bit of help worked wonders.
I've had girls take vacations with me with no expectations other than I pay for things (cheap!) and they rewarded me over and over and over with their bodies.
Seriously, guys. Stop asking non-pros for their hourly rates. You're shooting yourself in the foot.
Ask me anything. I'm all ears. I have no problem sharing everything because I know 99% of people won't act on it. It's the same in my business seminars. I tell people step-by-step how to get rich and everybody ignores it except for one smart guy every few months, because they either lack the stones or they don't want to work for it and would rather get quick results. If you want quick results, go to HX. If you want extremly rewarding and inexpensive experiences, change your game.
OneOfTheBest
01-13-16, 05:00
Walmart budget on Sugar daddy sites is an oxymoron. I read both sides of profiles and a lot of people say NO ESCORTS but lower budget Johns can infiltrate these sites turning them into another BP, CL and HX. Like GM is correct. .
I don't doubt that as I have read many of his posts. But working on an SD site and blowing through dozens or even hundreds (in my case thousands) of girls doesn't always leave time for the niceties that would assuage or persuade a prospect to do what you want them to do. Especially on a walmart budget. Love you guys. Lets keep the stories and advice flowing.
I know there are a lot of guys that read this thread but do not contribute, as I get a few PM's here and there from them. So chime in guys. There is no requirement for membership except a desire to bang more pussy.
I am civi dating my X roommate. 34. 5'7" 116 She is very sweet. For now she is my GF.That is some sweet looking punani.
ESPECIALLY for those of you guys on a WalMart budget, you need to STOP treating sugar babies and non-pros like escorts.
What so many mongers fail to understand is that SBs and NPs offer the best of all worlds, and should be treated so much differently than hookers.
1. You get sex with no strings attached.
2. You get hardcore GFE porn sex.
3. You pay very very little for what you get in return (if you work it correctly).
4. You can get a girl to hang out at your house all weekend sucking your dick, bending over for you at will, showering with you, massaging you, playing dress up for you, massaging your balls, all for the same price or less than a 1-hour date on HX.
Sure occasionally some 'ho will try to pass herself off as an innocent girl, but if you've been in the game for more than 6 months you can spot these ones a mile away.
For the other 99% of girls on sugar daddy websites, just treat her like a normal person. Take her out to dinner, have fun, get her back to your place, fuck her in the mouth, and then AFTER you've drained your balls into her various holes, then you start talking about money.
If you start negotiating hourly rates over email before you've even met her, then you've already lost. You're a mark, and she hates you.
At the risk of alienating most everybody who is reading this, here is how I've heard it going down:
You finally get a girl on seekinng arranngement to answer your ad. You get all excited and start bombarding her with texts and emails, which from her point of view are annoying, especially since all you say is "How much?" You probably even ask her if she offers BBBJ, Greek, and MSOG, and she's starting to wonder why the fuck she ever signed up to this stupid website. She wants a man to sweep her off her feet and help her with her bills, not some undersexed nerd who wants to negotiate sexual positions over email.
The only thing she knows about you is the blurry picture and generic profile, so she hits you with a $500 offer. To both of you, that's a lot of money, and negotiations break down because she knows you can't afford it. You counter with $100, she balks, and you have another night at home alone stroking yourself.
REMEMBER YOU DON'T NEED TO BE RICH, YOU JUST NEED TO BE RICHER THAN HER.
If you want to rent a girl by the hour, go to HX. THere are 1,000 girls who can be had for $300 or less. Per hour.
Or, for the same price or less, you can have a pencil spinner college girl with daddy issues spending a whole weekend with you. But you have to treat her like a human, and not a HX cumdumpster. Keep your audience in mind. Why did this stupid girl sign up to SA? Because she wants to service dozens of horny nerds every week at $100 per hour? OF COURSE NOT YOU FUCKING DORK, GET IT TOGETHER.
She signed up because she wants the fantasy of dating a man who is going to take care of her financially. So give her the fantasy. Flirt with her, ask her about her favorite restaurant and then TAKE HER THERE. 99% chance it will be something shitty like Red Lobster. Yeah, you might have to pay $50 for dinner and not get laid that night. Try to think long-term, and not just about what your dick is going to be doing that night.
Present yourself as a "rich" boyfriend, but NEVER BRING UP MONEY UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE PUT SOMETHING INSIDE HER.
PRO TIP: If she brings up money, act annoyed and disgusted, and make a point of talking about how you don't want a hooker. You're a busy professional with no time for relationships, and you thought she was better than that.
Oh, and I just realized that all this probably only applies to single guys who have the time, inclination, and social skills to pull it off. If you're married, or if you're a hopeless nerd, you're better off just getting HX girls for 30 minutes at a time.
But if you want the world to be your sexual playground, for relatively little money, then you need to identify your targets and act appropriately.
I recently had a confused young girl spend the entire night at my house with her ankles next to her ears, who thanked me PROFUSELY the next morning because I paid her $63 phone bill. Think back to when you were 19 and broke and how a little bit of help worked wonders.
I've had girls take vacations with me with no expectations other than I pay for things (cheap!) and they rewarded me over and over and over with their bodies.
Seriously, guys. Stop asking non-pros for their hourly rates. You're shooting yourself in the foot.
Ask me anything. I'm all ears. I have no problem sharing everything because I know 99% of people won't act on it. It's the same in my business seminars. I tell people step-by-step how to get rich and everybody ignores it except for one smart guy every few months, because they either lack the stones or they don't want to work for it and would rather get quick results. If you want quick results, go to HX. If you want extremly rewarding and inexpensive experiences, change your game.I just have to say that is some fantastic advice. Think long term, not short term gain.
"Present yourself as a "rich" boyfriend, but NEVER BRING UP MONEY UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE PUT SOMETHING INSIDE HER.
PRO TIP: If she brings up money, act annoyed and disgusted, and make a point of talking about how you don't want a hooker. You're a busy professional with no time for relationships, and you thought she was better than that. ".
OK, those are my two favorite lines. In my case, she did bring up money first. Would have loved your second line here at that time.
I must say I get nervous at the backlash if, after we bang and she has her proverbial hand out, the amount is far less than she wanted. That could get ugly.
I had 2 M&G's yesterday. One is a 43 yo white divorcee who is seriously DTF. She pursued me. Not the best looking but, shit, neither am I. I felt it was required so towards the end, I brought up "the ugly subject. " She scoffed, said she hates that aspect, wouldn't give a number as she felt it made her feel like a pro so we dropped it.
I thought I was supposed to ask. LESSON LEARNED!
The other was an absolutely gorgeous 28 yo black girl. We already did the email exchange about numbers (LESSON LEARNED) and she's fine with my cheap ass number. We plan to get naked.
Thanks again for the wisdom! I copied those two phrases into a Google Doc!
ItDoesntMatter
01-13-16, 16:35
I just have to say that is some fantastic advice. Think long term, not short term gain.He's quoting some of the same stuff that was said in the LA NP thread years ago. It's not anything revolutionary. If you scroll back some years, a certain member advocated a "hit it and fish again" mentality. Others said that it wasn't the same type of woman and that you have to have a different mindset. The latter's advice was ignored as the former was a "legend" and CL is now a wasteland. Now you have to pay for connecting with women the same way you used to on CL for free.
Ain't life grand?
HollywoodGuy
01-13-16, 17:30
Now we are getting somewhere. If anyone "ever" takes anything anyone says and thinks that its insulting their intelligence. Then they are on the wrong thread.
This is a place for hard core advice, stupid questions, stories of conquest & glory, and sometime just thinking out loud. Thanks to everyone that contributes to this thread.
Now about those pics.
Christophe1
01-14-16, 02:13
I've had two friends that were sugar babies. The first one had a day job making about 3 K a month, where she worked with an industry person that bought her an Escalade and paid for her $2 k / month rent. He only wanted to see her about 2 x / week in his Hollywood Hills house where she got to spend the night. She got lots of gifts and he helped her advance in her daytime career by referrals. This allowed her to explore her passions. Like dancing, acting, singing, standup, etc. I always admired her freedom to try new things.
Another lady was a massage therapists. She got an admirer who bought her an MP. Then he gave her 10 K / month. I asked her if this guy was crazy? SERIOUSLY, he didn't want her to quit the MP gig. She fucked lots of guys for a hundred and was highly requested when she worked. The guy had been retired forever, and just sat at home alone (her story). Whatever their arrangement, it made them both mutually happy. I always wondered why she continued to work, but never asked her why.
Today, I hung out with a 27 year old single mom that just scrapes by to live. She is smart, okay looks, and her mom told her to get a sugar daddy. I was at a crossroads of sorts. I didn't want her to be used up and spit out by a hardcore monger, but I also thought, what a good mom. Her mom told her that she deserves a better life. Get a sugar daddy and maybe you can...
I'm starting to think this sugar baby thing is a good deal. My 2016 goal is to get a 20 to 30 year old with money to wine and dine my poor ass. I want to be private jetted around and at her beckon command to fuck her everywhere when she wants. I'll eat out her pussy when desired. My personality and hard cock shall prevail.
Namaste
HollywoodGuy
01-14-16, 03:51
I've had two friends that were sugar babies. The first one had a day job making about 3 K a month, where she worked with an industry person that bought her an Escalade and paid for her $2 k / month rent. He only wanted to see her about 2 x / week in his Hollywood Hills house where she got to spend the night. She got lots of gifts and he helped her advance in her daytime career by referrals. This allowed her to explore her passions. Like dancing, acting, singing, standup, etc. I always admired her freedom to try new things.
Another lady was a massage therapists. She got an admirer who bought her an MP. Then he gave her 10 K / month. I asked her if this guy was crazy? SERIOUSLY, he didn't want her to quit the MP gig. She fucked lots of guys for a hundred and was highly requested when she worked. The guy had been retired forever, and just sat at home alone (her story). Whatever their arrangement, it made them both mutually happy. I always wondered why she continued to work, but never asked her why.
Today, I hung out with a 27 year old single mom that just scrapes by to live. She is smart, okay looks, and her mom told her to get a sugar daddy. I was at a crossroads of sorts. I didn't want her to be used up and spit out by a hardcore monger, but I also thought, what a good mom. Her mom told her that she deserves a better life. Get a sugar daddy and maybe you can...
I'm starting to think this sugar baby thing is a good deal. My 2016 goal is to get a 20 to 30 year old with money to wine and dine my poor ass. I want to be private jetted around and at her beckon command to fuck her everywhere when she wants. I'll eat out her pussy when desired. My personality and hard cock shall prevail.
NamasteNo doubt they will. The possibilities are endless. I just saw my new dr for my nerve damage problem. An attractive older but slender and obviously hot at one time blonde. I can't mess up my chance to get her to help me. But I couldn't help myself and dropped a few hints. She didn't bat an eye and I didn't see a ring. We have a mutual friend in common so I am going to find out what her marital status is. If she is married I will keep my big mouth shut. If not I am going to wait until after all the medical care I will be getting and then see if I have a chance. I was a sugar boy once. I think I may have posted about it years ago. It got ugly. I did it for like two years. That's all I'll say about it now or ever.
A few years ago I started to buy a custom made wardrobe with the intention of hitting up older divorced women and widowers. Didn't follow through on that one either as I got scared I might not get it up on command.
OneOfTheBest
01-14-16, 03:56
Those two scenarios are true textbook definition of Sugar daddy. The name of this blog should be titled much differently. I agreed with GMs first reply but second one is just as predatory. Just lying to ladies to get "free to lunch money sex" for unlimited time selling them a dream that can't be bought.
I don't doubt that as I have read many of his posts. But working on an SD site and blowing through dozens or even hundreds (in my case thousands) of girls doesn't always leave time for the niceties that would assuage or persuade a prospect to do what you want them to do. Especially on a walmart budget. Love you guys. Lets keep the stories and advice flowing.
I know there are a lot of guys that read this thread but do not contribute, as I get a few PM's here and there from them. So chime in guys. There is no requirement for membership except a desire to bang more pussy.
I've had two friends that were sugar babies. The first one had a day job making about 3 K a month, where she worked with an industry person that bought her an Escalade and paid for her $2 k / month rent. He only wanted to see her about 2 x / week in his Hollywood Hills house where she got to spend the night. She got lots of gifts and he helped her advance in her daytime career by referrals. This allowed her to explore her passions. Like dancing, acting, singing, standup, etc. I always admired her freedom to try new things.
Another lady was a massage therapists. She got an admirer who bought her an MP. Then he gave her 10 K / month. I asked her if this guy was crazy? SERIOUSLY, he didn't want her to quit the MP gig. She fucked lots of guys for a hundred and was highly requested when she worked. The guy had been retired forever, and just sat at home alone (her story). Whatever their arrangement, it made them both mutually happy. I always wondered why she continued to work, but never asked her why.
Today, I hung out with a 27 year old single mom that just scrapes by to live. She is smart, okay looks, and her mom told her to get a sugar daddy. I was at a crossroads of sorts. I didn't want her to be used up and spit out by a hardcore monger, but I also thought, what a good mom. Her mom told her that she deserves a better life. Get a sugar daddy and maybe you can...
I'm starting to think this sugar baby thing is a good deal. My 2016 goal is to get a 20 to 30 year old with money to wine and dine my poor ass. I want to be private jetted around and at her beckon command to fuck her everywhere when she wants. I'll eat out her pussy when desired. My personality and hard cock shall prevail.
Namaste
HollywoodGuy
01-14-16, 17:00
Those two scenarios are true textbook definition of Sugar daddy. The name of this blog should be titled much differently. I agreed with GMs first reply but second one is just as predatory. Just lying to ladies to get "free to lunch money sex" for unlimited time selling them a dream that can't be bought.I originally named it Sugar Daddy Sites as the focus at the time in my mind was to talk about girls met on an actual SD website. But SB prospecting could be at the mall, a club, in school, etc. As the availability and awareness of the possibilities on the POT side has increased, any and all location sites should be discussed. Online or Offline.
Maybe I should have named it "Sugar Daddy Sites, Sights & Insights".
OneOfTheBest
01-14-16, 18:05
I was being sarcastic since the threads aren't by definition textbook Sugar daddies and the ladies aren't textbook sugarbabies. Splenda / Trick daddy title sounds more fitting.
I originally named it Sugar Daddy Sites as the focus at the time in my mind was to talk about girls met on an actual SD website. But SB prospecting could be at the mall, a club, in school, etc. As the availability and awareness of the possibilities on the POT side has increased, any and all location sites should be discussed. Online or Offline.
Maybe I should have named it "Sugar Daddy Sites, Sights & Insights".
HollywoodGuy
01-15-16, 04:19
I can't really go on SA for a few days due to some dental work I am getting done tomorrow. And there are a ton of new girls in just the last few days. A ton. Like this crazy amount. It's endless. No one could have all those girls, And there is no competition. Practically zero. I have rarely see such an awesome buyers market.
ESPECIALLY for those of you guys on a WalMart budget, you need to STOP treating sugar babies and non-pros like escorts.
What so many mongers fail to understand is that SBs and NPs offer the best of all worlds, and should be treated so much differently than hookers.
.This is excellent advice. I kind of do a combo of this and HG's approach and have been very successful. In the last month I have been with 9 different women and never spent more than $ on average. I have one that has basically become a FWB and it is exactly as GM describes it. I think I will approach more with the long term goal now that I have so many reliable girls that will come over with just a little notice. I am a writer so I am able to pull a lot in by my texts.
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