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HollywoodGuy
08-24-15, 23:28
Got my virgin here for just a few more days. And I also have a hot bikini model quality girl living here as well. I think I am going to let her stay here for a while. She has a car so she can leave anytime I need some privacy for a date.
Got my virgin here for just a few more days.I thinks your virgen is not a virgen no more!
HollywoodGuy
08-25-15, 04:36
I thinks your virgen is not a virgen no more!Yeah, that's just what I call her. We only fucked one time. Maybe I will get lucky one more time, but she just lets me go down on her. She is a lez. She probably did 8 girls in just the last month alone. But she is super cute and very low maintenance. Just helps fill out the day. Today I probably spent 2 hours just kissing her awesome body. She is a project for sure. But I got no shortages of good pussy. I fucked my ATF this morning. And have enough regulars to stay busy daily at this point.
HollywoodGuy
08-26-15, 23:03
Yesterday I got a quick and friendly hit off SA,. So today I decided to go on a real date and take her out to a fancy lunch at a trendy place downtown. The table, food and company were all excellent. She bussed her way to downtown and then I drove her home. We parked just long enough for me to get a taste of her lips and enough fingering to determine her hornyness level. Which she said was high due to not having had sex in 4 months (she knew the exact date).
This girl is a true NP first timer. She should be ubering over in an hour to finish the date. She is 22, very tall, like 5'11' with a nice slender but not skinny shape. A college grad that's home for the summer living with the parents. I love a true first timer.
Sad to say this girl has left town now. She is a firecracker and was great fun in the FC.
HollywoodGuy
08-27-15, 04:19
So the girl in the last post did make it over about 10.30 and stayed to 12.30. More than enough time to know I won't be repeating. It's too bad, but you can't connect with everyone (and I told her that), although I made the best of it and had an good time overall and so did she. I really did break her NP cherry but she was at best a 7 or so. She had some really good qualities but just not enough to keep it going. And she was pushing to stay over. That definitely wasn't going to happen.
Tomorrow I am supposed to see my "little church girl". After 15 dates I say she is a 7/9/10/10. And at 19 still young enough to be fresh. Her body is amazing.
She turns me on effortlessly.She seems familiar or her nipples and body and the church thing, is she in school for lets just say the medical field? And did you meet her on the SD site.
Just wondering out of curiosity.
Yesterday I got a quick and friendly hit off SA,. So today I decided to go on a real date and take her out to a fancy lunch at a trendy place downtown. The table, food and company were all excellent. She bussed her way to downtown and then I drove her home. We parked just long enough for me to get a taste of her lips and enough fingering to determine her hornyness level. Which she said was high due to not having had sex in 4 months (she knew the exact date).
This girl is a true NP first timer. She should be ubering over in an hour to finish the date. She is 22, very tall, like 5'11' with a nice slender but not skinny shape. A college grad that's home for the summer living with the parents. I love a true first timer.What is SA? Also what is the average amount of $$ you spend on these girls?
HollywoodGuy
08-27-15, 13:40
Dang. Aunt flo is viviting my "little church girl". Lets see what the day brings.
Its still pretty early in the day. LOL.
HollywoodGuy
08-27-15, 13:42
Sad to say this girl has left town now. She is a firecracker and was great fun in the FC.Does her name start with a C ?
HollywoodGuy
08-27-15, 21:55
Not much going on today. Messaged a bunch of POTS but they were all GPS so far. Still have a couple in the process. But I do have 8 confirmed POTS at a $. I just need to start getting to them. This was a busy month as I had sex with 10 different girls. Only two of them I will never repeat. So not too shabby. And there are still a few days left in the month to maybe meet one or two more. I only had one M&G that didn't result in any physical contact at all.
Member #5794
08-27-15, 22:01
I love the story of the nonpro who ubered and bussed it to fuck you. That happens all the time in the real world.
HollywoodGuy
08-27-15, 23:11
I love the story of the nonpro who ubered and bussed it to fuck you. That happens all the time in the real world.Most of the girls I date don't have cars.
Just bored and posting. Here is cute tourist I fucked about a month ago. She was saying "Oh for sure I am coming back to L. A." .. I haven't got a txt or email from her since she flew home. Which was the day I fucked her. Pierced nips and clit I think. Too long ago to remember for sure,Beautiful young woman Hollywood. Mind sharing how you met her? Did she post on a site while in LA? We have our share of women wanting the "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" here but perhaps LA has its share as well without the catchy phrase.
HollywoodGuy
08-28-15, 02:11
Here's one more. I met her at my home a few days ago. We just hung out and had a couple drinks and talked. I knew she was a stripper before she came by. But she really is cute so I had to check her out.. She is kind of a tough girl and that's my only worry. And I even told her that. Because I want someone that can be vulnerable on some level or its just a booty call. And I don't really need anymore of those right now. She said maybe if she got to know me better she could be that girl. It's a crap shoot. She txted me today and I still haven't got back to her
HollywoodGuy
08-28-15, 03:23
I love the story of the nonpro who ubered and bussed it to fuck you. That happens all the time in the real world.This is the real world. LOL.
Just bored and posting. Here is a cute tourist I fucked about a month ago. She was saying "Oh for sure I am coming back to L. A." .. I haven't got a txt or email from her since she flew home. Which was the day I fucked her. Pierced nips and clit I think. Too long ago to remember for sure.Jesus christ. How do you do it man. That is one smoking tourist.
HollywoodGuy
08-28-15, 11:38
Jesus christ. How do you do it man. That is one smoking tourist.If you hit up enough pretty girls eventually you find one that's just down for some good fun without all the drama.
ScooterAllCity
08-28-15, 13:37
My SB / GF gained like 8 lbs.
This is her now on the left. The right was her three months ago.
I think she is motivated to go back to her old weight.8 pounds, where? Both look great to me!!
If you hit up enough pretty girls eventually you find one that's just down for some good fun without all the drama.Where do you find them to hit them up?!
HollywoodGuy
08-28-15, 13:53
Beautiful young woman Hollywood. Mind sharing how you met her? Did she post on a site while in LA? We have our share of women wanting the "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" here but perhaps LA has its share as well without the catchy phrase.She just had a profile on SA. I canceled my SD4M profile. SA has become far more popular and SD4M is tanking. Today is ATF nite. If you like tall skinny black girls you would love my ATF. She is maybe a bit under weight but with good proportions. And she is my #1 in the sack as far as pure fucking goes. She can go for 2 hours about half the time. And one hour is definitely the minimum. And tons of sexy taboo role play.
Our one year anniversary is in 5 weeks.
If you hit up enough pretty girls eventually you find one that's just down for some good fun without all the drama.Where did you find her? I'd love to hit those tourists up.
HollywoodGuy
08-28-15, 17:12
Where did you find her? I'd love to hit those tourists up.On seeking arrangement.com. Lots of girls visit L. A. From all over.
Here's one more. I met her at my home a few days ago. We just hung out and had a couple drinks and talked. I knew she was a stripper before she came by. But she really is cute so I had to check her out.. She is kind of a tough girl and that's my only worry. And I even told her that. Because I want someone that can be vulnerable on some level or its just a booty call. And I don't really need anymore of those right now. She said maybe if she got to know me better she could be that girl. It's a crap shoot. She txted me today and I still haven't got back to herI don't tend to like them with that many tattoos. Can't really say why.
HollywoodGuy
08-28-15, 18:17
I don't tend to like them with that many tattoos. Can't really say why.I can't say I am a huge fan unless they are done really artfully. Which most aren't. I hope to see some more posting on here. I am so done with the richmond SD thread. It was fun while it lasted. But way too much talk compared to the amount of action. And they rarely post pics. I love pics and / or graphic stories.
For the $.79 investment for a 6 month membership at SA you get to see more fresh pussy than you could fuck in a lifetime. As far as donations, mine start at a $. Once I find a keeper I start to go up to like $.5 but that's it. At $$ you can immediately start banging the hottest girls on there. At $$$ you could just open your own porno company and have a list of 100 girls within a week.
HWGuy I'm amazed how you do it. Your posts are fun and there's a lot to learn.
Just here on this site I learnt that after the hacking of AM site it was outed that there were only 12000 active women (out of 5 million) and 31 million registered men.
I was thinking the same skewed male-female ratio would be true with other sites too such as SA where the odds are not really in favor of us men.
But your posts seem to defy it. I'm thinking it is either SA in LA is an exception or you have a way with it! What do why'all think?
For the $.79 investment for a 6 month membership at SA you get to see more fresh pussy than you could fuck in a lifetime. As far as donations, mine start at a $.
HollywoodGuy
08-28-15, 21:43
HWGuy I'm amazed how you do it. Your posts are fun and there's a lot to learn.
Just here on this site I learnt that after the hacking of AM site it was outed that there were only 12000 active women (out of 5 million) and 31 million registered men.
I was thinking the same skewed male-female ratio would be true with other sites too such as SA where the odds are not really in favor of us men.
But your posts seem to defy it. I'm thinking it is either SA in LA is an exception or you have a way with it! What do why'all think?I have worked for every dating site on the internet. SA is a legit site. Stacked very heavily in favor of the men. Especially the ones that have something going on personality wise. But even if all you have is the cash, you will score hot girls repeatedly. I am 61 and the average age girl I date is 20 and about an 8 in looks overall. If I wasn't a "broke ass" like some $500 girl called me today, I would only be dating top models. Not wh*res, but models, actresses, dancers, etc. .And I still do, but i need to find the ones that want more than just the cash to do it. C'mon this is L.A. where every small town girl and wanna be whatever pretty girl thinks they are gonna be the next big thing. And we all know how often that happens.
Or maybe they are just a struggling student or single mom. If you cant get off of CL, SW's and AMP's and BP, then you just aren't trying. Married or single, sugaring beats traditional mongering in my book by a mile.
They are out there. Seek and you shall find.
Well, I'm tempted to take the S. A plunge and put it to test. But couple questions. One, $. 79 for 6 months subscription that you mentioned is actually valid only for 3 months. Was that a typo or am I missing something? Two, with the AM site hacking I'm wondering how safe it would be to give away your real credentials and billing address info or are there other safe alternatives for payment? Thanks.
I work for every dating site on the internet. SA is a legit site. Stacked very heavily in favor of the men. Especially the ones that have something going on personality wise. But even if all you have is the cash, you will score hot girls repeatedly. I am 61 and the average age girl I date is 20 and about an 8 in looks overall. If I wasn't a "broke ass" like some $500 girl called me today, I would only be dating models. Not wh*res, but models, actresses, dancers, etc..
And I still do, but i need to find the ones that want more than just the cash to do it.
They are out there. Seek and you shall find.
HollywoodGuy
08-28-15, 22:28
Well, I'm tempted to take the S. A plunge and put it to test. But couple questions. One, $. 79 for 6 months subscription that you mentioned is actually valid only for 3 months. Was that a typo or am I missing something? Two, with the AM site hacking I'm wondering how safe it would be to give away your real credentials and billing address info or are there other safe alternatives for payment? Thanks.You could be right. Its been a while since I paid. Sounds about right. Don't worry about hacking. I don't. But I,m not married.
HollywoodGuy
08-29-15, 01:27
This is a repeat but every post on here until 6 months ago were girls I met on SD4M. Most everything the last six months are girls from SA. And I canceled my SD4M profile. Because SA has way way more girls. Like 20 new ones a day in my tight demographic alone. And maybe 20 more in my looser demographic. Thats a lot.
HollywoodGuy
08-29-15, 01:30
Common Acronyms and Phrases on the USASG Sugar Daddy Sites Thread.
ATF - All Time Favorite
BCG - Booty Call Girl
Bowl - Short for Sugar Bowl
FC - Fuck Chamber
GPS - Golden Pussy Syndrome
HCB - Hot College Babe
HYB - Hot Young Babe
HYM - Hot Young Mom
HG - Hollywood Guy
HWG - Hollywood Guy
M&G - Meet and Greet
POT - A Potential SB
SA - seekingarrangement.com
SD4M - sugardaddyforme.com
SO - Signifigant Other
UTR - Under The Radar (a pro on the down low)
4 level rating system - 8/9/9/8 - face / body / personality / skills
Common Acronyms and Phrases on the USASG Sugar Daddy Sites Thread.
ATF - All Time Favorite
BCG - Booty Call Girl
Bowl - Short for Sugar Bowl
FC - Fuck Chamber
GPS - Golden Pussy Syndrome
HCB - Hot College Babe
HYB - Hot Young Babe
HYM - Hot Young Mom
HG - Hollywood Guy
HWG - Hollywood Guy
M&G - Meet and Greet
POT - A Potential SB
SA - seekingarrangement.com
SD4M - sugardaddyforme.com
SO - Signifigant Other
UTR - Under The Radar (a pro on the down low)
4 level rating system - 8/9/9/8 - face / body / personality / skillsMine is similar to yours but I rate service and price in addition to appearance (combining face and body into one category and annotating girls that are outstanding in either department).
A'd like to first of all thank everyone here for their help. Especially Hollywoodguy for his playbook and PM encouragement. I have a few general observations: this path takes a lot of patience but the rewards are great as well. Young girls are fickle, taciturn, and not prone to make long-term plans. You have to be flexible and go with the flow. I'll also outline my general approach and would like your critical appraisal.
So this is my start in this world. I first used CraigsList. Repeatedly without success. Next used SD4 M and found it full of fake profiles. Last signed up for SA a week ago. I used a CC that I got for miles and plan to cancel next month. I know I could have got a gift card or a GD but I decided to take a one-time risk, a few months down the line, if someone wants to track this down and go through my cancelled card charges. That's a risk I can take.
I registered for the site and set up some private pictures of me to shre with folks I hit up with. These are my pictures and someone who sees them could recognize me in public. These pictures are not searchable online. Not on LI, FB, etc. I only shared them with serious prospects. I find now that most girls don't care. In fact sometimes they ask for a pic after we have been corresponding for a few days and I remind them they already have access. They are getting hit up by a lot of guys and they really are not sorting us by looks as we are them.
First up, I used hollwood guy's suggestion of saved searches. I actually did a 30 min radius around my house and my work and found cities that would work for me with a 10 mile radius which wouldn't overlap with my "home" bases. In these citie, I did a search for 18-23 yr old girls who are slim or athletic and have minimal or negotiable expectations. And I used "unviewed" each time I logged in so I pretty much have a deterministic search algorithm.
Next up I used Hollywoodguy's playbook but I really modified it. He is quite verbose and many girls do a lot of texting. I used the same concepts and some nice turn of phrases. This is a volume game. You do have to customize each message to a girl and say something personal but after that it is pretty generic. I lucked out that the first girl I had a marathon email exchange with according to the playbook and she just dumped me at the end when she wanted 400 and I offered 100. However, this gave me my own version of the playbook and I since then just used modified versions of it.
I contacted / was contacted by 55 girls. About 18 of them led to more contact. Of those. Perhaps 12 led to substantial communications. Of those 4-5 broke down over financial or intimacy expectations. After a few tries, I upped my offer from $100 to $150-200. Of the rest - 3 are ready to go with defined pricing (100,150,200), 1 is scheduled for a M&G (200), 2 are MILFs who contatced me and 1 is pretty ready to go. I have put her off for now.
This takes a lot of time. I exchanged 10's of emails with many of these 12 prospects. In addition, with some of the top prospects I exchanged 50-70 texts and had a 30 minute call with one girl (thankfully she did not email or text too much). I encountered a lot of dead ends and flakiness. In all I estimate I spent 15-20 hours on this in 10 days. I estimate that I could save some of this time going forward since I do have my own streamlined template now, Plus, if I can develop 2-3 of these potentials, I can be picky about who I pursue going forward.
My first in-person meet was awesome. She is one of my top 3 of all time! I will review that separately in in the interests of space here.
I just did an extensive post on my experiences with finding a SB. It takes some investment of time but the rewards are indeed sweet. There is no way to get such fresh and sweet pussy any other way.
My first SB is 24, AA, 5' 6", very slim (looks taller), athletic and firm, sweet see cups, shaved kitty. Awesome labia and clit. Very responsive to DATY.
She contacted me based on my profile. She is new to town and staying with friends, looking for a job. She is clearly non-pro (she uses her real phone number, I dropped her off at her apt, we bare backed on our first date). She also gave me a lot of red flags and I almost did not meet her. She really pushed hard on how much $ she'd get and kept trying to get me to say exactly what she had to do etc. She was really good looking and I did not believe the pictures. Her repeated questions on payment and sex had LE vibes. She tried to postpone the M&G by 2 hours last minute. We had agrred to meet about 30 minutes from her house. Finally I gave in and offered to meet her near her place. However, she met me and I couldn't belive it but she looked great just like her pictures. She also got into my car and agreed to go to a motel.
Here is where the best laid plans go awry. Since I had scoped out where we will meet. Where I can find a hotel nearby etc. The last minute M&G change completely threw my planning off. Also, I had not expected her to come in my car so it was another problem.
Anyhow. The motels take cash and don't require CC. You can give fake car tags. However they copy your I'd. They don't really look at it twice. So I am going to get a fake I'd in my hobby name. I had not done this because I was afraid of what might happen if I ever got caught by LE. A fake I'd can lead to charges, the chances of getting into trouble are low as long as I don't proposition an undercover. Any advice on fake I'd?
Anyway. She has a really firm body. Its been a long time since I had one such as this (not counting the k-girls but they are pros and you know it when you are with them). We started out DFK and spent a lot of time sucking her nice titties. I then did DATY. She came. She proceeded to do great BBBJ with lot of attention to the balls and spit action DT. We then BBFS. Cow girl and girl on top positions. She said she liked that so really did not do Mish. After about 45 minutes, we went back to BBBJ and CIM. We took a shower and then chatted for another hour or so. I dropped her off to her apt and made plans to see her next week. I plan to see her every week unless I am out of town. She is game to come with me on an all-day trip to the back some Saturday. She is sweet sweet sweet. Of course, I know she has met a few other guys off SA. Not sure is she is still seing them. She may realize she is worth more than 150 and cut me off. 150 + 95 for room was the damage plus the $70 Sa membership.
I have a 5' 11" spinner lined up for next week ($100) and a hot little PhD student the week after in another town I am visting on business ($200). I am also M&G an undergrad at a local university who is also PT model ($200 is where we are at. She wants more but I asked her to decide after she meets me if this would work for her).
God! I feel like I died and went to heaven. For what I easily spend on sushi in LA or NYC, I get a somrgasbord of tight, sweet pussies. Why did it take me so long to figure this out?
Vox Out.
HollywoodGuy
08-29-15, 03:34
Mine is similar to yours but I rate service and price in addition to appearance (combining face and body into one category and annotating girls that are outstanding in either department).My price doesn't vary much. But if I was paying more I am sure I would be hyper critical in the skills dept. Thats one reason I don't pay a lot. So if I have an average session I always figure what the hay, it was only a $ anyway. To me the skills is service. And its hard for me to combine face and body together. Mostly cuz I am super picky about their body but less so in the face. I like a pretty girl, but i need a smoking hot body more.
Which in turn helps with the price, cuz a pretty girl will always think she is worth more even if her body is average.
HollywoodGuy
08-29-15, 04:23
Saw my ATF tonite and she drained my dry as always. Got a few anxious pots hovering, so I may see a couple of them over the weekend.
HollywoodGuy
08-29-15, 04:24
Mine is similar to yours but I rate service and price in addition to appearance (combining face and body into one category and annotating girls that are outstanding in either department).I will look forward to your reviews as they come in.
I will look forward to your reviews as they come in.I have a few that you could probably check out if you wanted to. I think that I rate price because I only date SW (a combination of limited funds, and the fact that I am only looking for sex, I don't want any attachments), so the price varies. I don't know why a pretty face matters so much to me, maybe its because CG is my favorite position.
HollywoodGuy
08-29-15, 12:06
Well I just said "good morning baby" to eight confirmed POTS. Average age just under 21. Six black and two white. Lets see who gets interviewed this weekend. I have like no work to do at all (very rare).
HollywoodGuy
08-29-15, 14:50
A'd like to first of all thank everyone here for their help. Especially Hollywoodguy for his playbook and PM encouragement. I have a few general observations: this path takes a lot of patience but the rewards are great as well. Young girls are fickle, taciturn, and not prone to make long-term plans. You have to be flexible and go with the flow. I'll also outline my general approach and would like your critical appraisal.
So this is my start in this world. I first used CraigsList. Repeatedly without success. Next used SD4 M and found it full of fake profiles. Last signed up for SA a week ago. I used a CC that I got for miles and plan to cancel next month. I know I could have got a gift card or a GD but I decided to take a one-time risk, a few months down the line, if someone wants to track this down and go through my cancelled card charges. That's a risk I can take.
I registered for the site and set up some private pictures of me to shre with folks I hit up with. These are my pictures and someone who sees them could recognize me in public. These pictures are not searchable online. Not on LI, FB, etc. I only shared them with serious prospects. I find now that most girls don't care. In fact sometimes they ask for a pic after we have been corresponding for a few days and I remind them they already have access. They are getting hit up by a lot of guys and they really are not sorting us by looks as we are them.
First up, I used hollwood guy's suggestion of saved searches. I actually did a 30 min radius around my house and my work and found cities that would work for me with a 10 mile radius which wouldn't overlap with my "home" bases. In these citie, I did a search for 18-23 yr old girls who are slim or athletic and have minimal or negotiable expectations. And I used "unviewed" each time I logged in so I pretty much have a deterministic search algorithm.
Next up I used Hollywoodguy's playbook but I really modified it. He is quite verbose and many girls do a lot of texting. I used the same concepts and some nice turn of phrases. This is a volume game. You do have to customize each message to a girl and say something personal but after that it is pretty generic. I lucked out that the first girl I had a marathon email exchange with according to the playbook and she just dumped me at the end when she wanted 400 and I offered 100. However, this gave me my own version of the playbook and I since then just used modified versions of it.
I contacted / was contacted by 55 girls. About 18 of them led to more contact. Of those. Perhaps 12 led to substantial communications. Of those 4-5 broke down over financial or intimacy expectations. After a few tries, I upped my offer from $100 to $150-200. Of the rest - 3 are ready to go with defined pricing (100,150,200), 1 is scheduled for a M&G (200), 2 are MILFs who contatced me and 1 is pretty ready to go. I have put her off for now.
This takes a lot of time. I exchanged 10's of emails with many of these 12 prospects. In addition, with some of the top prospects I exchanged 50-70 texts and had a 30 minute call with one girl (thankfully she did not email or text too much). I encountered a lot of dead ends and flakiness. In all I estimate I spent 15-20 hours on this in 10 days. I estimate that I could save some of this time going forward since I do have my own streamlined template now, Plus, if I can develop 2-3 of these potentials, I can be picky about who I pursue going forward.
My first in-person meet was awesome. She is one of my top 3 of all time! I will review that separately in in the interests of space here.Once you have a few regulars at $$ or whatever, then you can start to get a little firmer on the price, because you won't give a shit. And trust me they can catch that "walk away" vibe real fast. Good work dude. Keep posting and post pics. Or pm me a link to who ever you fuck. I am just curious and will not take any cuts in line.
The Situation
08-29-15, 14:58
Hey everyone,
Just a heads up about the many scammers I'm sure you will find on the SB sites. I posted about my situation on the main Richmond forum. Cliff's notes: girl sends me nude photos, wants me to buy her things without having met first, I go cold and block her number. I get texts from various virtual numbers (did reverse search) claiming I will be charged for child pornography. Another claims the client is searching reimbursement for trauma. Just a bunch of bs from many SoCal area codes (760,818, 909,805) using virtual numbers.
My first mistake was giving out my real phone number.
Be careful and think with the big head!
HollywoodGuy
08-29-15, 16:01
Hey everyone,
Just a heads up about the many scammers I'm sure you will find on the SB sites. I posted about my situation on the main Richmond forum. Cliff's notes: girl sends me nude photos, wants me to buy her things without having met first, I go cold and block her number. I get texts from various virtual numbers (did reverse search) claiming I will be charged for child pornography. Another claims the client is searching reimbursement for trauma. Just a bunch of bs from many SoCal area codes (760,818, 909,805) using virtual numbers.
My first mistake was giving out my real phone number.
Be careful and think with the big head!These scams are rare. But just get a burner phone anyway. After 8 years I have never been scammed in the way that you say. Its just part of the game to ward off the unwanted. Not a big deal at all.
HollywoodGuy
08-30-15, 10:28
Had an M&G with a home girl from the hood yesterday. Just a semi-cute 21 year old with a decent body that's DTF. I told her I would pick her up after school on Monday for a test ride. If not Monday then probably one day this week. I made a serious effort last nite to fuck my new roommate the "bikini girl". Long story short it didn't happen. My old roommate the "hawaiian princess" is now officially gone. Meaning she finally got her stuff out of here at midnite last night.
The new roommate has only taken a $ off me in two weeks of living here. She just needs a place to stay and actually starts work monday nearby for 16 an hour. So I am done with trying to convert her. She knows she can get paid anytime. I did get her to finally shave her bush last nite. I told her I dont EVER go there unless its fresh. Cuz it's gotta be smooth for me to make my move. Thats one rule I never bend on for any girl.
Pubic hair makes me cringe.
HollywoodGuy
08-30-15, 10:55
As of today my spreadsheet says I have nine confirmed POTS at a $. I saw the home girl yesterday, three are a little too far away, and so that still leaves five POTS worth meeting. I am going to try to meet two of them today.
Here is my current line up of regulars.
ATF - Been seeing her twice a week for 11 months with no end in site.
Church Girl - Seen her once a week on average for four months with no end in site.
My X - Seen her twice so far in two weeks. Once a week would be great going forward.
So on paper that's 16 guaranteed trips to the FC for next month. Due to issues that come up I can pretty much count on 12 trips for sure. If I take 8 days off that still leaves 10 days to fill in. Not an impossible task. I have three BCG's of which one of them I would like to see maybe twice next month. The other two I am already done with mentally.
HollywoodGuy
08-30-15, 11:33
I just checked my stats for the year. So far I made 132 trips to the FC (16.5 trips per month) for $1.6 per visit on average. And a lot of those visits were for a $ which is the only way I can bonus my regulars and still come out OK. This includes all meals, party favors, ubers, etc. (and all failed M&G's as well). I can also see that about 5% of my total budget went to failed M&G's this year, which is also the same as last year. That's a number I can live with. So overall not as low as I would like, but not unreasonable either.
Last year I averaged 21.5 trips to the FC per month at $.6 per visit. So I am saving money but only due to cutting back on my dating which was due to multiple health issues and a bad first half at work. Now work has picked up and my health is improving so maybe I can at least get back to 20 visits a month starting Tuesday.
This girl is now my new roommate. She is not asking for anything and is also not providing anything except good company for now. LOL. But I am working on her. She is not too comfortable being on my "list". Lets see what happens over the next week. In the meantime I will just keep fucking my regulars. She is 33, 5'7" and 117 lbs.How do you do it? Whats your secret?
As of today my spreadsheet says I have nine confirmed POTS at a $. I saw the home girl yesterday, three are a little too far away, and so that still leaves five POTS worth meeting. I am going to try to meet two of them today.
Here is my current line up of regulars.
ATF - Been seeing her twice a week for 11 months with no end in site.
Church Girl - Seen her once a week on average for four months with no end in site.
My X - Seen her twice so far in two weeks. Once a week would be great going forward.
So on paper that's 16 guaranteed trips to the FC for next month. Due to issues that come up I can pretty much count on 12 trips for sure. If I take 8 days off that still leaves 10 days to fill in. Not an impossible task. I have three BCG's of which one of them I would like to see maybe twice next month. The other two I am already done with mentally.I used one a while back on AM before I bailed. Hard to keep track of communication history because, as you say, it's a game of numbers. Thanks for reminding me. I'll use on on my monger gmail google docs.
HollywoodGuy
08-30-15, 19:08
I used one a while back on AM before I bailed. Hard to keep track of communication history because, as you say, it's a game of numbers. Thanks for reminding me. I'll use on on my monger gmail google docs.Google docs, I like that, its like being at work. And it is work.
HollywoodGuy
08-30-15, 19:10
How do you do it? Whats your secret?No secret really. Just hit up a ton of girls. Let them know you don't pay much, but maybe you can provide some other added value (like being a real friend). That they are your type, and you are just looking for some carefree, no drama, fun times.
Member #5794
08-30-15, 19:12
I think my buddy hit up that "33" year old one. Is she from the valley?
Crazy Jim Wood
08-30-15, 19:22
This girl is now my new roommate. She is not asking for anything and is also not providing anything except good company for now. LOL. But I am working on her. She is not too comfortable being on my "list". Lets see what happens over the next week. In the meantime I will just keep fucking my regulars. She is 33, 5'7" and 117 lbs.I doubt she says "no" to a "c-note" LOL.
HollywoodGuy
08-30-15, 19:29
I think my buddy hit up that "33" year old one. Is she from the valley?No, she was living on the west side.
HollywoodGuy
08-30-15, 19:31
I doubt she says "no" to a "c-note" LOL.So far she has said no. She could get that note everyday if she wanted it. She is making me court her like a civvy girl. Its cool because I don't really have a GF that I see. Just a few regulars for sex but no dating activities.
Now I have a pretty girl to hang out with everyday and that will leave if I need to see one of my regular girls. She starts work tomorrow, a FT 9-5 in an office in DTLA. She has some means, which is why she can keep me at arms length. She doesnt really need my cash. But she does need a safe comfortable place to stay.
Jak Hammer
08-30-15, 20:33
Is she praying to the almighty white penis god for strength & support I surmise?
So far she has said no. She could get that note everyday if she wanted it. She is making me court her like a civvy girl. Its cool because I don't really have a GF that I see. Just a few regulars for sex but no dating activities.
Now I have a pretty girl to hang out with everyday and that will leave if I need to see one of my regular girls. She starts work tomorrow, a FT 9-5 in an office in DTLA. She has some means, which is why she can keep me at arms length. She doesnt really need my cash. But she does need a safe comfortable place to stay.When you finally hit it, please describe it for us and pics of that ass will be greatly appreciated.
After looking through this in more detail. I actually found that about 21 of those profiles I contacted have not logged in to SA in a while and hence, have not read my message.
So it was a miss on my part in not looking at their activity before contacting. This changes things a bit. The funnel is now.
33 contacted - 18 replied - 12 conversed - 7 potentials - 4 scheduled for FC.
These are good for first round. I think as one becomes better at "qualifying" prospects, one can get the hit rate higher. However, spamming a lot of girls can also net more with the rate coming down.
"Teach a man to fish. ".
I contacted / was contacted by 55 girls. About 18 of them led to more contact. Of those. Perhaps 12 led to substantial communications. Of those 4-5 broke down over financial or intimacy expectations. After a few tries, I upped my offer from $100 to $150-200. Of the rest - 3 are ready to go with defined pricing (100,150,200), 1 is scheduled for a M&G (200), 2 are MILFs who contatced me and 1 is pretty ready to go. I have put her off for now.
After looking through this in more detail. I actually found that about 21 of those profiles I contacted have not logged in to SA in a while and hence, have not read my message.
So it was a miss on my part in not looking at their activity before contacting. This changes things a bit. The funnel is now:
33 contacted - 18 replied - 12 conversed - 7 potentials - 4 scheduled for FC.
These are good for first round. I think as one becomes better at "qualifying" prospects, one can get the hit rate higher. However, spamming a lot of girls can also net more with the rate coming down. "Teach a man to fish. ".
I contacted / was contacted by 55 girls. About 18 of them led to more contact. Of those. Perhaps 12 led to substantial communications. Of those 4-5 broke down over financial or intimacy expectations. After a few tries, I upped my offer from $100 to $150-200. Of the rest - 3 are ready to go with defined pricing (100,150,200), 1 is scheduled for a M&G (200), 2 are MILFs who contatced me and 1 is pretty ready to go. I have put her off for now.
Once you have a few regulars at $$ or whatever, then you can start to get a little firmer on the price, because you won't give a shit. And trust me they can catch that "walk away" vibe real fast. Good work dude. Keep posting and post pics. Or pm me a link to who ever you fuck. I am just curious and will not take any cuts in line.
HollywoodGuy
08-31-15, 02:56
When you finally hit it, please describe it for us and pics of that ass will be greatly appreciated.I hate to report this (but being the honest guy that I am) this girl may be a total washout in the FC. Just like the straight guys at the gym that look like Adonis (to overcompensate for their other deficiencies). I think this girl may be a workout fanatic for similar reasons.
She really just has no game at all and I don't think I can change that. Too many emotional issues to just let go and let me take control. A far cry from my regulars that are all daddys little girls looking for approval. And willing to do almost anything to get it.
But she can crash here for now. She is a sweet girl, and as long as she doesn't mess up my schedule I am OK for now. But not what I was expecting. Although I was pretty suspicious at this point and told her so. But no reason to ditch her as she basically pays her own way. I kinda feel sorry for her. She says she wants to change. But I told her you have to be willing, and I dont really see that in her. She has an awesome smile but no spark in her eyes. She is the type that would rather go in the woods for a few days and meditate. On what I am not sure.
This girl is just way too inexperienced, insecure and shy. I have upped a lot of girls game, because they are game. But I dont think she is. The hawaiian virgin was a total **** compared to her (and I already miss her). And I did stuff with her I never did with any girl because she was full of adventure. This is like the opposite. So I will continue my quest for the holy grail. This is why I stick to the youngest girls possible (18-22). They are basically ready for anything. You know the type, they get that wild look in their eyes, or the look of omg I think I died and went to heaven.
HollywoodGuy
08-31-15, 13:41
After looking through this in more detail. I actually found that about 21 of those profiles I contacted have not logged in to SA in a while and hence, have not read my message.
So it was a miss on my part in not looking at their activity before contacting. This changes things a bit. The funnel is now:
33 contacted - 18 replied - 12 conversed - 7 potentials - 4 scheduled for FC.
These are good for first round. I think as one becomes better at "qualifying" prospects, one can get the hit rate higher. However, spamming a lot of girls can also net more with the rate coming down. "Teach a man to fish. ".No matter how you look at it. It's a success so far. Make sure to follow up with the juicy details. LOL
I don't know if I have the patience for this long-term. One girl flaked on M&G last minute. Prob legit. Had to take someone who was sick to the doc. Another said "I am not having sex with you again unless you pay me more" and I said "you seem upset, what's wrong". 20 minutes later. All good. Still on for FC. Same gift. I am learning a lot about the psychology of these girls. Very fickle. Many of these girls use their own emails and phone nos, I can find their facebook. One even sent me her home address. They are both callous and vulnerable. Tender and cruel. All at the same time. If all goes well. Will have 3 more in FC by next week. Will post my notes. I don't take pictures (risk of being found out somehow). The one scheduled for tomorrow is 5 11". Yoga instructor white hippy chick.
If I fuck all three girls this week then I can die and go straight to heaven. I haven't had pussy like this EVER. Even when I was young and 2 X randy.
No matter how you look at it. It's a success so far. Make sure to follow up with the juicy details. LOL
HollywoodGuy
09-01-15, 11:59
You got to keep at it Vox. And I pinky promise you it will all be good in the end. Now for my yesterday. I will skip the relating of the half a dozen girls calling and asking when, where and why with pouty imoge faces. Just on a hunch I went to meet a girl I had literally no time for the day before on Sunday. All we did was talk (about all the right things) and so I gave her .2 and sent her on her way to let her know I was serious. But at least I got to check her out enough to know I wanted to have sex with her. And if she was no good at least I got to find out for .2. Well worth it.
Then Monday I was f-ing swamped with work and family obligations and my new roommates car having to be towed, etc. I finally picked my roomy up so late from her new job that by the time I got to Taylors in K-town and home with the steak and potato, it was already like 8 pm.
I then ate too fast and got sick. So knowing it would take at least 2 hours for my food to go down I made a car date for 11 pm with the 21 year old girl I did the M&G with the day before. She has the sweetest disposition and what turned out to be some good quality sex skills and a very dirty mind.
But due to even more family issues I didn't get to her until it was like 1 am. I picked her up in front of her apt and found a quiet spot about a mile away. I asked her how much she wanted and she said .6. So I countered with .4 just to tease her and said "well I only want a HJ but since you stayed up all night to see me I will give you the .6" (and because she had to be up at 6 am for school this morning).
When we got to the spot I was already hard and she proceeded to rub and tug, I sucked her titties which she liked (as she was softly moaning) so I asked if I could drop her pants and finger her. She willingly obliged and guided me to her first of two O's. All this as she kept strokin me. And she kept clamping down on my fingers and asking me how good her pussy felt. Then she says "don't you want your dick in there?" She says she had a condom. And I said "hey I am not too hot on condoms". But I tried it for like 15 minutes before I stopped. I told her just work my balls and dick and I promised her I would cum. Which I eventually did. She kept telling me how nasty she was and would do anything I asked. So I had her do a couple of things I liked and I did get off in the end after about 45 minutes of her workin it.
It was a car date and I was not in the mood to fuck in the car in a strange place, with a strange girl and a condom after an 18 hour day. But all in all it was fun and I told her I liked her. She loved the role play and all the dirty talk. She made me tell her I wanted her to be my "dirty little girl". It was well well worth the .6 that I paid for her time and she graciously accepted it. I am sure I will see her again. Especially at these bargain prices. She is a really good BCG so far. And she would never be more than that and could care less. She had a cell phone bill to pay.
Lord. There is nothing like driving in L. A. in the middle of the night (I love it). I drove home from the 105 & 110 to Hollywood in under 20 minutes. I finally got home just in time to get like 4 hours sleep before having to get up and take my roomy to her second day of work. It was so wifey. "Goodbye honey, I love you" Kiss Kiss.
Another day another girl. My ATF will be here in two hours for a nooner.
HollywoodGuy
09-02-15, 19:43
"I agree completely, why waste time on short term relationships when you can have something real. $100 sounds reasonable, because it shouldn't be about the pay. It should be about having something real, and the pay is just a bonus. We're on the same page.
I met the tall yoga instructor girl. We met at a bar but she was 45 minutes late. She had an oddly unattractive face (I could'nt pinpoint why but it just did not do anything for me. But she had a hot body. I took her back to the hotel because I had access to the lounge. She had a bit too much to drink. Made out a lot on my bed and told me she had her "flow" so we couldn't do anything else. She was smart and we had some trippy conversations. Finally she split and I did not even pay her.
HollywoodGuy
09-03-15, 01:08
Finally she split and I did not even pay her.Good move on your part.
LadyChaser
09-03-15, 11:13
So what sites do you guys prefer to use? I've worked the Craigslist thing from time to time with some great success but thinking of trying this angle.
HollywoodGuy
09-03-15, 18:06
So what sites do you guys prefer to use? I've worked the Craigslist thing from time to time with some great success but thinking of trying this angle.seekingarrangement.com
HollywoodGuy
09-03-15, 19:49
seekingarrangement.comWell worth the investment.
For the people with SO,. How open are you on these sites. Do you put a picture from neck down. No picture at all.
As with many sites, I'm assuming I will get more hits by having more information open for the females.
Any tips on creating an alluring profile?
Thanks!!
HollywoodGuy
09-04-15, 13:43
For the people with SO,. How open are you on these sites. Do you put a picture from neck down. No picture at all.
As with many sites, I'm assuming I will get more hits by having more information open for the females.
Any tips on creating an alluring profile?
Thanks!!I am single. But you definitely need a picture up there, even if its just close resemblance. Then put your real pics in the private section. Keep the profile short and sweet.
Or even better, just fuzz up a real pic, or photoshop it a little.
Targets:
18-22 - students.
Pros. Low sugar expectations, uninhibited sexually, willing to learn, eager to please, good bodies. In shape, often very impressed with a guy who at 40 is "not old" but successful and worldly.
Cons. Flaky, busy, hot / cold, less in common with me, cannot host, often not mobile, sometimes unrealistic expectations.
22-28 - educated, low-paying entry level office jobs or arts / architecture / entertainment type careers that pay little at that level, grad students.
Pros. Some have low sugar expectations, sexually experimental, appreciate attention, educated and intellectually stimulating, good bodies and in-shape.
Cons. Many are pros / UTR / escorts so need to wade through, many have high expectations and are looking for high rollers, some have issues (emotional, alcohol etc.).
30+ MILFs.
I have had very limited luck with this demographic but the sample size is low, they are really looking for that high roller and will likely keep looking, they also have high logistical issues with kids etc. So can be tough to actually meet.
SOPs:
Profile: need a decent profile, enough details to attract attention.
Pictures- need good pictures, need to privately exchange to build trust and make sure it is not a turnoff, I find this hard because I don't have a lot of selfies, and in the cold light of day many pics are not great if that is the first impression, have had to really look hard at my collection and find something non-traceable.
Contacts. Need a good text game, going back and forth, exchanging enough info, getting to M&G, etc. , I find you need to seal the deal relatively soon or it peters out, so a 3-4 week cycle. Week 1 - make initial contacts, late week 1/ early week 2 - build it up and make contact, week 3 - seal the deal,. No more than a week between building a strong connection through initial communication and meeting in person.
Hotels. I feel very uncomfortable in Motels, while they are cheap and relatively anonymous I prefer my standard hotels. I use points but parking and other charges add up. Girls get very impressed by the concierge level and lounge benefits.
Staying in character. After 6 months I am comfortable with my nickname and backstory. It is close enough to the truth but slightly blurry. I tell them I live in the city I work and am vague about where I work. Professional details close enough not exact. I have moved around quite a bit so it sounds exotic. Living in europe, asia, etc.
Time commitment: I invested some time initially, I intend to develop a girl I can see every week and 2 I can see every other week. I will have to periodically invest time to build the portfolio as girls drop out. If this cannot be done, I cannot sustain time commitment required. I have a CAMP and a AMP which are reliable but I don't like seeing new girls every few weeks and I hate motel 6.
Overall, this thread has been a goldmine of information and I am cautiously optimistic this approach will lead to long-term sustainable arrangements. However, there is a lot of flaking and time wasting.
HollywoodGuy
09-07-15, 01:49
"Fuck off. I'm not a hooker selling my body".
"Fuck off. I'm not a hooker selling my body".Said the "hooker" that just asked for $$.
They are not hookers, we are not johns.
Yet spare us still the Western joke.
When joss-sticks turn to scented smoke.
The little sins of little folk.
That worship at Kamakura—.
Said the "hooker" that just asked for $$.
HollywoodGuy
09-07-15, 09:33
Said the "hooker" that just asked for $$.In her case it was more like five.
Great Report! Thanks for sharing.
BTW, could you share or PM some stats. Like how much time average you invest per week on this?
Also, how many M&Gs (average) has it taken to convert to a qualified SB?
What has been the avg 'sugar' per SB.
Per you experience the rate of return better in which category (18-22; 22-28, etc).
And in which market are you playing. Thanks, again.
Targets:
18-22 - students.
Pros. Low sugar expectations, uninhibited sexually, willing to learn, eager to please, good bodies. In shape, often very impressed with a guy who at 40 is "not old" but successful and worldly.
Cons. Flaky, busy, hot / cold, less in common with me, cannot host, often not mobile, sometimes unrealistic expectations.
22-28 - educated, low-paying entry level office jobs or arts / architecture / entertainment type careers that pay little at that level, grad students.
Pros. Some have low sugar expectations, sexually experimental, appreciate attention, educated and intellectually stimulating, good bodies and in-shape.
Cons. Many are pros / UTR / escorts so need to wade through, many have high expectations and are looking for high rollers, some have issues (emotional, alcohol etc.).
30+ MILFs.
I have had very limited luck with this demographic but the sample size is low, they are really looking for that high roller and will likely keep looking, they also have high logistical issues with kids etc. So can be tough to actually meet.
SOPs:
Profile: need a decent profile, enough details to attract attention.
Pictures- need good pictures, need to privately exchange to build trust and make sure it is not a turnoff, I find this hard because I don't have a lot of selfies, and in the cold light of day many pics are not great if that is the first impression, have had to really look hard at my collection and find something non-traceable.
Contacts. Need a good text game, going back and forth, exchanging enough info, getting to M&G, etc. , I find you need to seal the deal relatively soon or it peters out, so a 3-4 week cycle. Week 1 - make initial contacts, late week 1/ early week 2 - build it up and make contact, week 3 - seal the deal,. No more than a week between building a strong connection through initial communication and meeting in person.
Hotels. I feel very uncomfortable in Motels, while they are cheap and relatively anonymous I prefer my standard hotels. I use points but parking and other charges add up. Girls get very impressed by the concierge level and lounge benefits.
Staying in character. After 6 months I am comfortable with my nickname and backstory. It is close enough to the truth but slightly blurry. I tell them I live in the city I work and am vague about where I work. Professional details close enough not exact. I have moved around quite a bit so it sounds exotic. Living in europe, asia, etc.
Time commitment: I invested some time initially, I intend to develop a girl I can see every week and 2 I can see every other week. I will have to periodically invest time to build the portfolio as girls drop out. If this cannot be done, I cannot sustain time commitment required. I have a CAMP and a AMP which are reliable but I don't like seeing new girls every few weeks and I hate motel 6.
Overall, this thread has been a goldmine of information and I am cautiously optimistic this approach will lead to long-term sustainable arrangements. However, there is a lot of flaking and time wasting.
HollywoodGuy
09-07-15, 12:26
I invest a couple hours a day minimum.
I usually have at least a 50% conversion rate from M&G to the FC.
I try to do at least one M&G a week. This usually results in a few new SB's per year.
Average sugar per SB is $. 5 but I start them all out at a $.
Age doesn't seem to matter as far as sugar amount.
Thanks, HWG. BTW, what's the major reason for non-conversion of 50% of POTs? Is it because of higher sugar expectations?
I invest a couple hours a day minimum.
I usually have at least a 50% conversion rate from M&G to the FC.
I try to do at least one M&G a week. This usually results in a few new SB's per year.
Average sugar per SB is $. 5 but I start them all out at a $.
Age doesn't seem to matter as far as sugar amount.
HollywoodGuy
09-08-15, 00:16
Thanks, HWG. BTW, what's the major reason for non-conversion of 50% of POTs? Is it because of higher sugar expectations?The reason is you just can't or don't want to connect with everyone you meet... right?
I turn pussy down and sometimes pussy turns me down. It's all in the game.
I posted stats here - http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites&p=2599398#post2599398. Also look at my other posts for more details. I invested the most time before I started on this this and the Richmond SD thread. I am in LA but not Hollywood. My areas are SGV and North OC. When I started I invested several hours a day over 3-4 days. Since then I just keep up with it and maybe send out one or two messages when I have time. I think you need to prime the pump and invest time to begin. Assume you need to wade through and contact 50 girls. After that it might be easier. My M&G conversion rate has been 66% and I have several M&G that are taking a while to schedule due to busyness on my part and / or girls scheduling issues. If they have school and a job. They're busy too. I have two girls who agreed to 100 but haven't consummated yet. Others are 150 and one 200. I think it is possible to find people for 100 if you are patient. Pay what you can afford. I say you are worth a lot baby but I am on a budget. I am reliable and I am going to be regular if we hit it off. This is what I can do. Honestly, many of them are busting their ass at minimum wage. If you are guy the won't mind sleeping with anyway. The 150 or 200 is a bonus. It is what they make in a few days. It is their cable bill or cell phone bill or whatever.
Great Report! Thanks for sharing.
BTW, could you share or PM some stats. Like how much time average you invest per week on this?
Also, how many M&Gs (average) has it taken to convert to a qualified SB?
What has been the avg 'sugar' per SB.
Per you experience the rate of return better in which category (18-22; 22-28, etc).
And in which market are you playing. Thanks, again.
HollywoodGuy
09-09-15, 18:58
I ditched all my POTS except for three. I am just going to round up a new group. Already got one today. Never get too needy. L. A. is overflowing with good pussy.
I saw my x GF / SB last night for our third date since we started seeing each other again. It's sad, but I just don't see it working out. I may see her a few more times this month to help her out. But we are just not on the same page in the FC.You are a lucky man if you can afford to kick someone that fine to the curb. Or just much more skilled than me.
HW guy, I shall start each day saying a salutation to you. It is raining pussy is all I can say. Some of the girls who I message 3 weeks ago are coming in now. I have two competing FC girls tomorrow. POT 1 is 5 9 white spinner college athlete. She is coming over at 10 PM. POT 2 is 5 7 AA athletic with great tits. She is canceling her dinner plans so she can come straight to FC at 6 and I told her I have to go to dinner after that and she cannot stay. She is Ok with that. POT3 was GPS who wanted 400 - is back and has been emssaging me daily. I told her I cannot meet until next week. I have 2 girls I can repeat next week and 6 new ones all ready and willing to FC for 100-250.
This has to be an anamoly. It is a run that cannot last but I am going to enjoy it while it lasts. God my budget is out of the window for the month. CPO still reasonable but too many Os per week!
I ditched all my POTS except for three. I am just going to round up a new group. Already got one today. Never get too needy. L. A. is overflowing with good pussy.
HollywoodGuy
09-10-15, 05:00
You are a lucky man if you can afford to kick someone that fine to the curb. Or just much more skilled than me.Not lucky. I work for it. And yeah she is a 10 in looks, but not in the sack. And that has to be my main priority. It's sad because we are in love, as much as two semi-promiscuous people can be. She has two girlfriends that I know of, but I am the only guy. I guess she is just too gay to take a real dick.
I saw my x GF / SB last night for our third date since we started seeing each other again. It's sad, but I just don't see it working out. I may see her a few more times this month to help her out. But we are just not on the same page in the FC.One day I hope to be able to turn down ass like that.
HollywoodGuy
09-10-15, 11:31
HW guy, I shall start each day saying a salutation to you. It is raining pussy is all I can say. Some of the girls who I message 3 weeks ago are coming in now. I have two competing FC girls tomorrow. POT 1 is 5 9 white spinner college athlete. She is coming over at 10 PM. POT 2 is 5 7 AA athletic with great tits. She is canceling her dinner plans so she can come straight to FC at 6 and I told her I have to go to dinner after that and she cannot stay. She is Ok with that. POT3 was GPS who wanted 400 - is back and has been emssaging me daily. I told her I cannot meet until next week. I have 2 girls I can repeat next week and 6 new ones all ready and willing to FC for 100-250.
This has to be an anamoly. It is a run that cannot last but I am going to enjoy it while it lasts. God my budget is out of the window for the month. CPO still reasonable but too many Os per week!Well at $$.5 my budget would be busted too. But when I add in my new Uber addiction it does crank up the price a bit.
So the ones I have done are all 150. I have 3 that agreed to do 100 but for some reason have not been easy to schedule. I have one that wanted 200, I agreed but now I am not so sure. Given the abundance.
However, the amount of time is insane - 60-70 texts before you get anywhere. Also I have many that are in POT category now but sched issues. Many are studrnts and have a job. They are.
Only free 1-2 days a week since I cannot do weekends or evenings.
Usually I pig out on strange when I travel. I have one in the morning and one at night. But now I crave non-pros -.
Well at $$.5 my budget would be busted too. But when I add in my new Uber addiction it does crank up the price a bit.
HollywoodGuy
09-11-15, 00:46
This one seems to get the big picture. She sounds genuinely sweet. So I hope she does.
HollywoodGuy
09-11-15, 01:04
So the ones I have done are all 150. I have 3 that agreed to do 100 but for some reason have not been easy to schedule. I have one that wanted 200, I agreed but now I am not so sure. Given the abundance.
However, the amount of time is insane - 60-70 texts before you get anywhere. Also I have many that are in POT category now but sched issues. Many are studrnts and have a job. They are.
Only free 1-2 days a week since I cannot do weekends or evenings.
Usually I pig out on strange when I travel. I have one in the morning and one at night. But now I crave non-pros -.NP's are the best. Hands down.
It was so funny. A girl who claimed she hadnt had sex in 4 years sends me her # yesterday and it goes to like 10 escort ads. You think they would be smart enough to use a different number. And different pics on their sugar ad. Not the ones they use on BP.
I saw my "lttle church girl / teen angel" today.
She ubered over after school for two hours of lessons in the FC from Daddy.Nice shots sir! The FIA just made me think of the "lollipop song", you know the sound they make when you pop your finger out of your mouth haha.
My new roommate. No sex yet, just a lot of touching.
Probably spend the day with her as we are both home today.If the church girl is truly gone, which would be a Damon shame, your roommate looks like a worthy replacement! Love the pics HWG!
HollywoodGuy
09-12-15, 02:26
If the church girl is truly gone, which would be a Damon shame, your roommate looks like a worthy replacement! Love the pics HWG!The "church girl" could care less about my roommate and I will probably see her again on Sunday night. After 5 months we are very solid. I also have my ATF and everything is cool with her (our one year anniversary is coming up in a couple of weeks).
And the roommate is good company for now as the other two are really just for the FC only (and are both solid 10's in there, and climbing).
Also due to their unending ability to truly satisfy me I did cut off my x SB/GF tonite after only three dates. Way too much drama there no matter how hot she is. And she is a 10 in looks, but unfortunately nowhere else. She is the true definition of a "hot mess".
So two regulars, and a roommate that may or may not become a regular. It's a good base to work off of and keeps me from picking up too many stray cats. So now I can really just focus on finding my next long term regular. And all of this is going on in total detail in front of my roommate. So it is putting the pressure on her to pick up the pace, and today she did, a little.
And I will try to get some good new pics Sunday.
HollywoodGuy
09-12-15, 17:04
The "church girl" could care less about my roommate and I will probably see her again on Sunday night. After 5 months we are very solid. I also have my ATF and everything is cool with her (our one year anniversary is coming up in a couple of weeks).
And the roommate is good company for now as the other two are really just for the FC only (and are both solid 10's in there, and climbing).
Also due to their unending ability to truly satisfy me I did cut off my x SB/GF tonite after only three dates. Way too much drama there no matter how hot she is. And she is a 10 in looks, but unfortunately nowhere else. She is the true definition of a "hot mess".
So two regulars, and a roommate that may or may not become a regular. It's a good base to work off of and keeps me from picking up too many stray cats. So now I can really just focus on finding my next long term regular. And all of this is going on in total detail in front of my roommate. So it is putting the pressure on her to pick up the pace, and today she did, a little.
And I will try to get some good new pics Sunday.My roomy woke me up with a small five minute BJ yesterday morning. That was a first. And very sweet of her to do. But she is starting to see that the girls just come and go, unless they really step up. She has only civvy dated and doesn't understand the level of sexual performance guys like us expect (but she is learning). And its starting to sink in. Its scares her and has her curious at the same time.
Met up with a newly turned 18 year who has only had intercourse twice. She has a nice curvy body big full lips and as we continued to text it went from "maybe a HJ to are you bringing condoms?" LOL. She has had a very limited life experience so just taking her out to a reasonable restaurant was a big deal for her. I realized that she was testing me by mentioning all the pricey items and I responded with "You can have whatever you like. " She ended up with a half a sandwich and soup. We went back to the hotel and had a great time. She has only orgasmed three times in her life (two times by her own hand) and I made her orgasm twice in an afternoon. Got her thick full lips around me and she has natural ability that can be improved. She loves role play and she loves being the nasty girl. Loved watching her as she orgasmed. She was so happy that she was jumping around the room. I also place her in front of a full length mirror so she could see herself sucking me. She loved it. She was very tight and I really only got 1/4 of myself in but it felt really good and my goal was about her this first time. I had bought her some lingerie she wanted. I spent more than Hollywood Guy recommends, but that man clearly has game and looks! We all look to him for guidance and I will get there. I have converted on SB to a non-paid regular. We just spend three days together with a full on fuck fest and she is up for swapping with other couples. So my idea is I spend a little more up front and then lessen it. This new one is definitely up for direction and I am looking forward to seeing her again. As was written about earlier, young NPs are hard to pin down because they have school and jobs and that's the case with this one. She is begging me to get together but our schedules are opposite.
HollywoodGuy
09-12-15, 17:24
Met up with a newly turned 18 year who has only had intercourse twice. She loves role play and she loves being the nasty girl. Loved watching her as she orgasmed. She was so happy that she was jumping around the room. I also place her in front of a full length mirror so she could see herself sucking me. She loved it. Very Nice Indeed!
I have realized I need to (I) only make plans last minute or the day before and (ii) always double book and even then there is a 50% chance both will flake. But how else can I expect a 20 why o tight girl to CIP with for 100-150? Need to put in the time.
Vox out.
NP's are the best. Hands down.
It was so funny. A girl who claimed she hadnt had sex in 4 years sends me her # yesterday and it goes to like 10 escort ads. You think they would be smart enough to use a different number. And different pics on their sugar ad. Not the ones they use on BP.
HollywoodGuy
09-13-15, 17:59
My roommate was looking good on her way to the beach. She woke me up with a 10 minute HJ this morning. Things are slowly progressing. She just has to get used to the idea that she is going to have to share or its not going to work. And my ATF was down for a moment when I told her all about it an hour later. I am actually simplifying everything for everyone. My ATF is great but she has her own complicated life and spends all her time in the FC when she is here. So thats maybe 3 hours max 10 times a month.
That leaves a whole lot of extra time on my hands. And I really like having an SO again (which is really what my roommate is to me now). I am determined to make this work.
HollywoodGuy
09-13-15, 20:05
The girls that put you in their favorites on SA are rarely the girls you are going to meet.
JohnnyTheWad
09-13-15, 22:59
My roommate was looking good on her way to the beach. She woke me up with a 10 minute HJ this morning. Things are slowly progressing. She just has to get used to the idea that she is going to have to share or its not going to work. And my ATF was down for a moment when I told her all about it an hour later. I am actually simplifying everything for everyone. My ATF is great but she has her own complicated life and spends all her time in the FC when she is here. So thats maybe 3 hours max 10 times a month.
That leaves a whole lot of extra time on my hands. And I really like having an SO again (which is really what my roommate is to me now). I am determined to make this work.HG, you cannot imagine the level of jealousy I am experiencing right now LOL. Good luck bro.
HollywoodGuy
09-14-15, 01:34
HG, you cannot imagine the level of jealousy I am experiencing right now LOL. Good luck bro.No reason to be jealous. Just learn to accept rejection. Lots of it.
HollywoodGuy
09-14-15, 01:40
Well I had a long talk with my ATF today after we were done in the FC. And by the end of the conversation she told me to tell my roommate that she has nothing to fear whether she has sex with me or not. She was a little dismayed to hear that she was sleeping in my bed and not on the couch. Which was just an assumption she made knowing we haven't fucked yet. But she left happy and satisfied as usual.
After my ATF left, my little "church girl" txted me and said she missed having my tongue up her ass, so I guess I will have to see her when she gets out of school tomorrow.
HollywoodGuy
09-14-15, 21:58
Since I got my ducks in a row (all three of them) I ditched another half a dozen POTS and I am starting all over again (again). Picky, Picky, Picky. I already have six more.
I think a horny girl can sense a hard dick from across the hood or from the north valley (sorry to the OC and IE girls), because I tell them all the same thing, and it works.
I had to ditch a couple of mine also, might take them back if they get back with the program, but we will have to see, some of these girls get too comfortable.
My "church girl" just ubered home after a healthy dose of daddys big cock.
She is one of the hottest 19 year olds I have ever been with.
A tiny girl with big dreams.
"Don't stop believin ... Hold on to that feelin"
Cuz you never know when lightning may strike. And it's usually when you least expect it.You are my hero!!
HollywoodGuy
09-15-15, 00:40
I love looking into my ATF's eyes. What a body (if you like runway model types).
A six foot black barbie with an FC game to match her height.
JohnnyTheWad
09-15-15, 00:42
No reason to be jealous. Just learn to accept rejection. Lots of it.Oh I'm used to rejection LOL.
HollywoodGuy
09-15-15, 00:56
So there you have it. My ATF, Church Girl, and SO/Roommate. In the civi world this would never happen. Which is why I will never ever go back there.
But I am preaching to the choir. No more posts until my next interview in the FC.
HollywoodGuy
09-15-15, 01:01
Oh I'm used to rejection LOL.And with 1800 posts a lot of good times I am sure.
HollywoodGuy
09-15-15, 13:21
You guys need to get signed up to SA.
But if you like booty call girls then try SD4M.
This is advice for locals only.
My focus is always going to be AA girls.
So all the usual locals will apply.
But there is every type of girl available.
Also I may have deleted a recent post by accident. Tipisil I think. Sorry
You guys need to get signed up to SA.
But if you like booty call girls then try SD4M.
This is advice for locals only.
My focus is always going to be AA girls.
So all the usual locals will apply.
But there is every type of girl available.
Also I may have deleted a recent post by accident. Tipisil I think. SorrySo SA is more for getting a few regulars and SD4 M is more for one timers?
I love looking into my ATF's eyes. What a body (if you like runway model types).
A six foot black barbie with an FC game to match her height.I do indeed like that type. It's exactly what I prefer. Yes, I have had a few, none that I have been able to hang onto for more than a month or so for obvious reasons.
JohnnyTheWad
09-15-15, 23:59
And with 1800 posts a lot of good times I am sure.Yeh I guess so. Had plenty and not burnt too many times. But I believe the best one is still out there somewhere. Sigh. LOL. Although you yourself could write a book I am sure LOL
HollywoodGuy
09-16-15, 01:51
So SA is more for getting a few regulars and SD4 M is more for one timers?More or less.
HollywoodGuy
09-16-15, 01:52
Yeh I guess so. Had plenty and not burnt too many times. But I believe the best one is still out there somewhere. Sigh. LOL. Although you yourself could write a book I am sure LOLI feel the same way. The best is yet to cum.
What is your SB portfolio strategy? How many do you juggle at a time. Well, lhow often do you meet each SB, and how often do you rotate them, I. E. Do you try them in the FC and cut them loose if performance is not great or do you cut them loose if performance deteriorates and how do you keep them motivated?
HollywoodGuy
09-17-15, 03:52
What is your SB portfolio strategy? How many do you juggle at a time. Well, lhow often do you meet each SB, and how often do you rotate them, I. E. Do you try them in the FC and cut them loose if performance is not great or do you cut them loose if performance deteriorates and how do you keep them motivated?To have a few regulars. A couple of BCG's and always hitting up girls whether I will meet them or not. More is better. And try to meet one new one a week.
So what is considered regular? Seeing a girl twice a month, once a month or what? Assuming I am lining her pockets every time I see her, which I guess could vary depending on the relationship.
HollywoodGuy
09-17-15, 17:37
So what is considered regular? Seeing a girl twice a month, once a month or what? Assuming I am lining her pockets every time I see her, which I guess could vary depending on the relationship.To me a regular is at least twice a month. Currently I see my ATF 8 times a month and my Church Girl 4 times a month. Plus my roommate is here everyday.
Church Girl had a financial emergency this afternoon. No time to make arrangements, so she just ubered over after school and sucked me off in the bedroom while my roommate was working at the computer in the living room.
She hasnt said a word about her since she left, but i did massage and vibrate her pussy when we woke up this morning, so I think she is good for today. I still havent fucked her. It's just a slow steady progression from day to day.
To me a regular is at least twice a month. Currently I see my ATF 8 times a month and my Church Girl 4 times a month. Plus my roommate is here everyday.
Church Girl had a financial emergency this afternoon. No time to make arrangements, so she just ubered over after school and sucked me off in the bedroom while my roommate was working at the computer in the living room.
She hasnt said a word about her since she left, but i did massage and vibrate her pussy when we woke up this morning, so I think she is good for today. I still havent fucked her. It's just a slow steady progression from day to day.I think that is something I can work with. You lucky bastage hahaha. Pu-see by the pound hahaah. *hats off*.
HollywoodGuy
09-18-15, 17:51
I think that is something I can work with. You lucky bastage hahaha. Pu-see by the pound hahaah. *hats off*.I don't like to be alone. I am not married and don't have a GF per se.
HollywoodGuy
09-18-15, 21:45
ATF - All Time Favorite
BCG - Booty Call Girl
Bowl - Short for Sugar Bowl
FC - Fuck Chamber
GPS - Golden Pussy Syndrome
HCB - Hot College Babe
HYB - Hot Young Babe
HYM - Hot Young Mom
HG - Hollywood Guy
HWG - Hollywood Guy
M&G - Meet and Greet
POT - A Potential SB
SA - seekingarrangement.com
SD4M - sugardaddyforme.com
SO - Signifigant Other
UTR - Under The Radar (a pro on the down low)
4 level rating system - 8/9/9/8 - face/body/personality/skills
What does NP mean?Non-pro I believe.
HollywoodGuy
09-19-15, 04:17
NP. Non-pro. A girl can only be one once. Kinda like a virgin. I really love taking a girls NP status and making her an SB. I do it a lot.
And I know when I am being fooled and when I am not being fooled. They are out there, you just have to do the work.
A big shout out to HG! We miss you over on the East Coast!
HollywoodGuy
09-22-15, 19:53
A big shout out to HG! We miss you over on the East Coast!Hey. Thanks. I just decided I would be more comfortable in my own backyard.
Beachesnole02
09-23-15, 11:25
Hey. Thanks. I just decided I would be more comfortable in my own backyard.Yeah it seems the posters in your backyard are talking about what they are doing now, not what they did 10 years ago.
Geneva Guy
09-23-15, 16:59
Since I have only found one other SD board (Richmond), thought I would post my experience here since it was this board in LA that stimulated me to join SA. I appreciate all the tips. I'm in the Northeast, Capital district of NY.
After one week, have met 2 ladies, first one was a turn off (very pushy), but second one, I hit the jackpot. Lady in her early 30's, black, who contacted me. We set up a coffee date and then she wrote "why don't you just come to my place and let's see if we hit it off. " She lives in a very safe, very "white" community so this Am I went over. She met me in a nightie and soon the fun started. She said "BJ only and want you to eat me out" but soon she was putting me bare into her pussy and asking me to cum in her. I was a bit hesitant to do that do I blew a load down her throat (first load) and second was was on her ass after a good fucking for some time.
We cleaned up, got dressed, I left a small gift and headed out. What a way to start my day before work, 2 hrs of sucking and fucking!!
So thanks to you guys on this board. It pushed me to join SA.
GG.
HollywoodGuy
09-23-15, 20:51
Since I have only found one other SD board (Richmond), thought I would post my experience here since it was this board in LA that stimulated me to join SA. I appreciate all the tips. I'm in the Northeast, Capital district of NY.
After one week, have met 2 ladies, first one was a turn off (very pushy), but second one, I hit the jackpot. Lady in her early 30's, black, who contacted me. We set up a coffee date and then she wrote "why don't you just come to my place and let's see if we hit it off. " She lives in a very safe, very "white" community so this Am I went over. She met me in a nightie and soon the fun started. She said "BJ only and want you to eat me out" but soon she was putting me bare into her pussy and asking me to cum in her. I was a bit hesitant to do that do I blew a load down her throat (first load) and second was was on her ass after a good fucking for some time.
We cleaned up, got dressed, I left a small gift and headed out. What a way to start my day before work, 2 hrs of sucking and fucking!!
So thanks to you guys on this board. It pushed me to join SA.
GG.Post pics in the future when you can. Good report.
Obviously a UTR girl (or just a sex crazy MILF). But who's judging. Not me.
Context:
So I just recently started looking into all this, registering at sd4 m and Sa. I've gotten a few messages, some real knockouts.
I don't typically go for black girls, and most of my responses have been non-black girls, but all the SB pics I see on here recently are of black girls.
Question.
So have guys had any success with youngish non-black girls on these sites?
Also, how do you suggest that first encounter goes? Do I take her shopping and see where it leads (sounds dumb) or do we run straight to a hotel?
Christophe1
09-24-15, 02:10
Question.
So have guys had any success with youngish non-black girls on these sites?
Also, how do you suggest that first encounter goes? Do I take her shopping and see where it leads (sounds dumb) or do we run straight to a hotel?I'm not a sugar daddy and don't play one on TV, but from reading the boards.
NO!!
You are the Boss. Don't hire anyone until they've proven themselves as a resource. Dress to impress so as to give the impression that you're all that, plus a cherry on top. Have a walk away attitude because you're too busy with real life shit to worry about an idiotic 20 something with no real value to the universe other than a couple orifices to fill.
Seriously.
Hi guys, long time lurker here. Stumbled onto this forum and found it fascinating. Signed up for SA a couple of weeks ago and finally went out on my first date a couple nights ago. She is an 18 year old Latina from the South Bay. While she doesn't have a traditionally beautiful face, she has very striking features and a killer body. We played phone / text tag for a couple weeks (she also flaked on me at the last minute once) until we finally decided on a date and time.
She didn't have a car, so I picked her up. There was a great sense of anticipation as I parked across the street from her residence. I half expected her to flake out on me again. Finally she emerges, wearing short shorts and a very tight halter top. She wasn't the most photogenic girl in her profile, but in person she looked like sex.
She nervously got in my car and I complimented her on her looks. She smiled shyly and looked away, saying she was embarrassed by compliments.
I took her to dinner and she ended up being a real sweetheart, even a little innocent and naive. She claimed this was her first SB / SD meeting, and I think I believe her.
Now for the real test -- getting her back to my designated FC. I asked if she wanted a night cap, which she agreed to. But since she's under 21, bars were obviously out of the question, so I mentioned that I had a place close by. We could have one drink and then I'd drive her home. She hesitated and kind of trailed off. I gently pushed, saying it was just one drink. She hesitated again. I decided not to push the issue and drove her home. I was obviously really looking forward to that drink, but didn't want the situation to devolve into anything regretful or disrespectful.
She promised she would have that drink with me next time -- hopefully not being a pushy jerk won me enough brownie points for some fun the next time.
HollywoodGuy
09-24-15, 03:29
I'm not a sugar daddy and don't play one on TV, but from reading the boards.
NO!!
You are the Boss. Don't hire anyone until they've proven themselves as a resource. Dress to impress so as to give the impression that you're all that, plus a cherry on top. Have a walk away attitude because you're too busy with real life shit to worry about an idiotic 20 something with no real value to the universe other than a couple orifices to fill.
Seriously.The walk away attitude is very important. IDK about the dress code. A nice house and car helps in the long run but they don't get to see that before they greet you. I admit the white girls are a pain and expensive. If you like drama there is plenty of that. I look for the LTR types. They are rare but worth all the tsuris I have to go through to finally land one.
HollywoodGuy
09-24-15, 03:30
Context:
So I just recently started looking into all this, registering at sd4 m and Sa. I've gotten a few messages, some real knockouts.
I don't typically go for black girls, and most of my responses have been non-black girls, but all the SB pics I see on here recently are of black girls.
Question.
So have guys had any success with youngish non-black girls on these sites?
Also, how do you suggest that first encounter goes? Do I take her shopping and see where it leads (sounds dumb) or do we run straight to a hotel?Thats mostly my fault. I have an unending need for chocolate pussy.
I'm not a sugar daddy and don't play one on TV, but from reading the boards.
NO!!
You are the Boss. Don't hire anyone until they've proven themselves as a resource. Dress to impress so as to give the impression that you're all that, plus a cherry on top. Have a walk away attitude because you're too busy with real life shit to worry about an idiotic 20 something with no real value to the universe other than a couple orifices to fill.
Seriously.I agree. Do not take them shopping or that's what you're going to do all the time. It's like shopping for a car. You may want that model, trim, color, or whatever. Guess what! There's a lot of dealers in the area that will have the same car. Your money is what is important. She wants it. Make her earn it.
Been doing this for over 2 months now and it's been a fun but an expensive adventure. These are my observation of how to spot an UTR.
Please add to the list if you like.
1-she gives you her cell number with her first response.
2-She asks you to send her money so she knows you are real and won't waste her time.
3-She asks for minimum of $600 per meeting (after negotiation).
4-She is open to meeting you at your place or hotel or her place on the first meeting.
5-Right away she wants to know how much of an allowance you are going to give her.
6-She wants money for the meet and greet.
7-She complains about too many cheap guys on the site. She accuses you of being cheap.
8-She messages you from another state, expecting airline ticket and hotel plus expenses, because she really likes your profile and wants to spend time with you.
9-She lives in a hotel.
10-She message you and tells you how handsome you are even though you don't have a public photo.
I can think of more but "top 13 or 14 list" does not sound right.
HollywoodGuy
09-24-15, 20:17
Been doing this for over 2 months now and it's been a fun but an expensive adventure. These are my observation of how to spot an UTR.
There are some nice UTR girls on SA and they do come in handy in between SB's or if you just need a quick cheap booty call. I find that its far easier to keep them at a $ as there is no emotional involvement and I never get into or want to hear their personal problems.
I have never paid a BCG more than a $ for any reason. It's the LT SB's that bleed you. And a BCG could be a UTR or just an SB wanna be. And some of those UTR's are very low mileage.
Hey is Sara still around? The blond girl, you're theo only one I know that knows / knew her.
You guys need to get signed up to SA.
But if you like booty call girls then try SD4M.
This is advice for locals only.
My focus is always going to be AA girls.
So all the usual locals will apply.
But there is every type of girl available.
Also I may have deleted a recent post by accident. Tipisil I think. Sorry
HollywoodGuy
09-24-15, 23:38
Hey is Sara still around? The blond girl, you're theo only one I know that knows / knew her.She lives or used to live pretty close to me. And no, I have not seen her. A little too much drama there for me to handle. She is probably still in the same apt she had across from LACC on Vermont.
Had my first SB over last night. Had been texting back and forth with a early 20's latina from the Valley and she was clearly just DTF. Not exactly my type as she was a little thick, but she had a cute face and, again, was DTF.
We agreed on $100 to meet at my FC. When she arrived I was pleasantly surprised. She was very cute, easy going and smart. We drank some wine, go to know each and then got down to business. Lots of making out and then went to the bedroom. While she was a little thick, she had a great ass and huge tits. Fucked twice in two hours (and she was really into it, which obviously was a huge turn on). Really did feel like FWB.
Sweet girl, will definitely call her again. Got to love the willingness to do outcall.
HollywoodGuy
09-26-15, 12:39
Had my first SB over last night. Had been texting back and forth with a early 20's latina from the Valley and she was clearly just DTF. Not exactly my type as she was a little thick, but she had a cute face and, again, was DTF.
We agreed on $100 to meet at my FC. When she arrived I was pleasantly surprised. She was very cute, easy going and smart. We drank some wine, go to know each and then got down to business. Lots of making out and then went to the bedroom. While she was a little thick, she had a great ass and huge tits. Fucked twice in two hours (and she was really into it, which obviously was a huge turn on). Really did feel like FWB.
Sweet girl, will definitely call her again. Got to love the willingness to do outcall.These girls are out there. A slightly think Latina, AA or mixed girl is always a little easier to get to the FC. They want it, they hope you like them, and the price shouldn't creep up. Good work.
These girls are out there. A slightly think Latina, AA or mixed girl is always a little easier to get to the FC. They want it, they hope you like them, and the price shouldn't creep up. Good work.Thanks man, just following your lead. Hopefully one day I'll figure out to how get the 8's and 9's for $ too: the.
HollywoodGuy
09-27-15, 02:37
Thanks man, just following your lead. Hopefully one day I'll figure out to how get the 8's and 9's for $ too: the.Most of the girls I get are 7/9 in looks. I don't need the prettiest girl. Just a hot body. Helps keep the costs down too.
Thanks man, just following your lead. Hopefully one day I'll figure out to how get the 8's and 9's for $ too: the.Congrats on the first success with this game. After you've built a solid rotation of a reliable group, you'll be able to get pickier in the important categories while holding on to your $ limit. Your game will get stronger as you continue to fine tune your approach and interactions. Once the ball gets rolling, you'll be turning them away.
Whatever happened with this one?
Met up with the 18 + 2 months again. Made her come 4 times in less than and hour and 1/2 which is more than she had done in her entire sexual life. Granted, she comes very easy, but it was a blast as I got to go down on her this time. She is very much into role play and I bought her a nurses outfit which she modeled and stockings that had openings for her ass and pussy. I put her on a bench in front of a mirror and did her doggie style. Damn, that young pussy is so tight and wet. We would fuck, suck, make out, rest and start again. She has only had shitty lovers, so that helps! LOL. But she LOVES showing off. The problem in terms of overhead is the hotel. She was surprised when I gave her a picture of Grant and that is exactly what I wanted. Her not to expect it. Next time I see her, a little gift like perfume and nothing else. After that, every other time or so a little gift. She is so happy someone is paying attention to her. I am on SA know, because HG said to go there, as I would like to have some SB closer to home, and I too love AA's.
Largess.
HollywoodGuy
09-28-15, 00:59
Met up with the 18 + 2 months again. Made her come 4 times in less than and hour and 1/2 which is more than she had done in her entire sexual life. Granted, she comes very easy, but it was a blast as I got to go down on her this time. She is very much into role play and I bought her a nurses outfit which she modeled and stockings that had openings for her ass and pussy. I put her on a bench in front of a mirror and did her doggie style. Damn, that young pussy is so tight and wet. We would fuck, suck, make out, rest and start again. She has only had shitty lovers, so that helps! LOL. But she LOVES showing off. The problem in terms of overhead is the hotel. She was surprised when I gave her a picture of Grant and that is exactly what I wanted. Her not to expect it. Next time I see her, a little gift like perfume and nothing else. After that, every other time or so a little gift. She is so happy someone is paying attention to her. I am on SA know, because HG said to go there, as I would like to have some SB closer to home, and I too love AA's.
Largess.I am sure she will have no trouble letting you take some pics. Can't wait to see them.
Joined last night and already have a number of numbers. Met one today for a sensual massage. Worked out paying too much because uber did that surge thing. She is stunning with perfect breasts but unfortunately keeps her head about her. HJ was all I got. She didn't even take her leggings down. But She did get turned on and we made out and I got to suck on those incredible tits. She is also a very good masseuse and will do FS but for three times the price. She is pleasant and I will probably see her at least one more time. She said I was her first SA client. Wasn't a SD / SB deal and wasn't ever meant to be. Her pictures are small and don't do her justice. I thought she was flat chested and she has natural see's maybe even the's on a slim and toned body. Looks like Rosario Dawson who I think is stunning.
HollywoodGuy
09-28-15, 21:41
Joined last night and already have a number of numbers. Met one today for a sensual massage. Worked out paying too much because uber did that surge thing. She is stunning with perfect breasts but unfortunately keeps her head about her. HJ was all I got. She didn't even take her leggings down. But She did get turned on and we made out and I got to suck on those incredible tits. She is also a very good masseuse and will do FS but for three times the price. She is pleasant and I will probably see her at least one more time. She said I was her first SA client. Wasn't a SD / SB deal and wasn't ever meant to be. Her pictures are small and don't do her justice. I thought she was flat chested and she has natural see's maybe even the's on a slim and toned body. Looks like Rosario Dawson who I think is stunning.I do HJ dates with a lot of girls and then try to work my magic. Half the time it works on the first date. If it doesnt work sometimes I will still give them a second chance if I like them. But that's it. And I never offer to pay more. But its good to just get out there and get the lay of the land so to speak.
HollywoodGuy
09-29-15, 19:31
In very short order she was alternately working my dick, balls and ass. And getting all dominant on me. She said she never tried that before but she really liked it. I can go submissive about 10% of the time with the right girl so I was cool with it as well.
Not bad for a first attempt on her part.Today she attacked me. I have unleashed the genie (and not exactly the one I was dreaming of). Be careful what you wish for. LOL. But she did progress to some oral.
Today she attacked me. I have unleashed the genie (and not exactly the one I was dreaming of). Be careful what you wish for. LOL. But she did progress to some oral.I'm curious, what do you think brought this on? Was it the idea of you going to visit that other girl?
HollywoodGuy
09-30-15, 03:00
I'm curious, what do you think brought this on? Was it the idea of you going to visit that other girl?Everytime my ATF comes over she has to leave. Before she is always super nice to me and then after she is depressed. We are dating civi style and slowly ramping up. Its a pretty big deal. This is her home now. But she has to accept my lifestyle. We say I love you many times a day now.
My ATF is pretty worried too, but she has nothing to worry about. They are total opposites. So really no competition. The only other girls in the picture at all are my Church Girl who isn't worried about anyone, my x roommate who is not moving back and I only see once a month, and my x GF that I was considering going back to that doesn't know yet.
So just the normal girl stuff that goes on when you date a lot of girls. Sometimes it gets tiring, but its worth it.
Today was my roommates birthday (34) so I made us a nice dinner. This is one of the few real GF type relationships I have had in the last 7 years. I had a few SB's that were a lot of fun, but this feels different. Which doesn't mean it's going to last. But I am down for another month. And no static from her about changing my lifestyle. I also haven't fucked her yet. But September went by pretty fast. I am trying to slim her 5'7" frame down a bit, so far she is stuck at 119 but if she gets down to 110 I might have to rethink things. As I do have a spinner fetish.
As much as I have tried, overall I have not really lowered my per date average from last year. I am saving a little money but only because of fewer trips to the FC. My per date average including every possible expense except gas is at $.66 so far this year.She looks like one fine piece of ass.
HollywoodGuy
10-01-15, 11:47
She looks like one fine piece of ass.She is a bit on the exotic side and speaks three languages. But there is only one language I am interested in and it doesn't require much speaking other than "Yes Daddy".
I noticed yoou started posting her face pics. Is that because she is ok with it now. You used to post somewhat anaonymized pics before. In general, do you ask them before you post pics. You have had some pretty racy ones here.
She is a bit on the exotic side and speaks three languages. But there is only one language I am interested in and it doesn't require much speaking other than "Yes Daddy".
HollywoodGuy
10-02-15, 10:30
I noticed yoou started posting her face pics. Is that because she is ok with it now. You used to post somewhat anaonymized pics before. In general, do you ask them before you post pics. You have had some pretty racy ones here.The racy ones never show their face. I ones with their face will never be racy. All pics of anyone I have banged are unsearchable as they are from my collection only and not posted anywhere else. And no girl knows about this site from me. Its like fight club on here. Unless you are cookie jar.
Are we eskimo brothers now? I am going to change my name to bollywood. LOL.
The racy ones never show their face. I ones with their face will never be racy. All pics of anyone I have banged are unsearchable as they are from my collection only and not posted anywhere else. And no girl knows about this site from me. Its like fight club on here. Unless you are cookie jar.
This site has been interesting. Lots more girls willing to meet for $ although next week is when I will really know if it comes true. Lots wanting thousands but lots happy with the offer. Always cracked me up when they complain that they're not prostitutes. Yes, you are, you just think that by charging in the thousands it makes you something else. We all know the old joke and it never was more applicable than on that site. The expectation means nothing as some will state one thing and take another. As always the AA and Latinas are the most likely to go with the deal. Would LOVE to find an Asian girl but they don't seem to find me interesting.
HollywoodGuy
10-03-15, 19:01
I celebrated my one year anniversary with my ATF last night. We managed to get 81 trips to the FC in our first year. Her average came to $.34 per visit, not too bad considering all the ubers. She surprised me with her new blue and white hairdo ala farah faucet. She knows I have a teen barbie fetish. Usually by one year I am totally burnt out on any girl. But we are still going strong.
HollywoodGuy
10-05-15, 02:19
Just filling up space tonite. My ATF has me spoiled to the point where every other girl is just an also ran. My new roomy is no exception. I love the company and reminded myself what a real GF acts like in between FC time. Its nice but just can't compare to bomb ass sex. My Church Girl is cool and we have covered some new ground as the months have clicked by. But if I see here more than once a week I know it will get old. Seen her about 20 times now.
Need to find a fresh young thing or two. There really is no shortage (except for time and money). They are both hurdles that can and will be overcome.
Just made an account recently. Any tips from those that have had much luck on that site?
With many contributions from our very own HWG.
Just made an account recently. Any tips from those that have had much luck on that site?
HollywoodGuy
10-05-15, 23:35
Just made an account recently. Any tips from those that have had much luck on that site?Start by being very picky. Also decide on a budget and stick to it. Set up some saved searches so you only see the girls in your demographic. Just cruise for a few days and don't message anyone. PM me a few profiles and I'll tell you what I think. And good luck.
Start by being very picky. Also decide on a budget and stick to it. Set up some saved searches so you only see the girls in your demographic. Just cruise for a few days and don't message anyone. PM me a few profiles and I'll tell you what I think. And good luck.Thanks. Especially about messaging you. Means a lot coming from someone like you.
Went to Vegas for the weekend and did some SA research / reaching out beforehand. Had a few interested girls and I finally settled on a short, petite 19 year old black girl. Although I've been trying to be firm on $100 per meet, I figured I was in Vegas so I anticipated a slightly higher payout. We agreed to $200.
She showed up at my hotel and was dressed a little frumpy -- yoga pants and a blazer (strange combo). I suppose it was better for her to dress down than up, as a lot of the higher end hotels are wary of escorts / hookers. Anyway, we went up to my room and she was refreshingly very normal and sweet. I offered her a drink and we chatted for a few minutes before she asked to use the bathroom.
She came out completely naked except for her panties. Huge natural Cs on a tiny, petite frame. I undressed and we started DFKing like crazy. She gave me a fantastic BBBJ and then I returned the favor with DATY. She was responsive, although laying it on a little thick with the moaning. I appreciated the effort though.
When I came back up, she grabbed my cock and slid me in -- she was soaking wet and felt amazing. We went at it for a while, mixing up the positions. When I told her I was getting close, she told me to cum in her mouth. She sucked me dry and swallowed every drop.
Afterwards we cuddled and chatted -- she's very bright and seems to have a good head on her shoulders.
A great session at an amazing price. I've blown tons of $ on escorts / strippers / AMPs in Vegas (sometimes for little to no pay off), so I'm happy to say that my SA / SB test run worked out like gangbusters. Just something to consider when any of you gents go out of town and need an alternative to the usual sources.
HollywoodGuy
10-06-15, 02:12
Went to Vegas for the weekend and did some SA research / reaching out beforehand. Had a few interested girls and I finally settled on a short, petite 19 year old black girl. Although I've been trying to be firm on $100 per meet, I figured I was in Vegas so I anticipated a slightly higher payout. We agreed to $200.
She showed up at my hotel and was dressed a little frumpy -- yoga pants and a blazer (strange combo). I suppose it was better for her to dress down than up, as a lot of the higher end hotels are wary of escorts / hookers. Anyway, we went up to my room and she was refreshingly very normal and sweet. I offered her a drink and we chatted for a few minutes before she asked to use the bathroom.
She came out completely naked except for her panties. Huge natural Cs on a tiny, petite frame. I undressed and we started DFKing like crazy. She gave me a fantastic BBBJ and then I returned the favor with DATY. She was responsive, although laying it on a little thick with the moaning. I appreciated the effort though.
When I came back up, she grabbed my cock and slid me in -- she was soaking wet and felt amazing. We went at it for a while, mixing up the positions. When I told her I was getting close, she told me to cum in her mouth. She sucked me dry and swallowed every drop.
Afterwards we cuddled and chatted -- she's very bright and seems to have a good head on her shoulders.
A great session at an amazing price. I've blown tons of $ on escorts / strippers / AMPs in Vegas (sometimes for little to no pay off), so I'm happy to say that my SA / SB test run worked out like gangbusters. Just something to consider when any of you gents go out of town and need an alternative to the usual sources.For $$ I could be banging nothing but hot SA AA girls all day. But being the cheap mofo that I am I stick to a $ to get started. And even if they are UTR, a lot of them are pretty low mileage. But I will never go the straight pro, strip club or AMP route with all the good selection available on SA. And sometimes you can get a hot $$ or even $$$ dollar pro for a $. But when they say yes to that you have to literally run over there, because by the next day or two the deal will be off the table. I just missed out on an amazingly good looking porn star for that very reason last month.
Frequency and resources are a factor as well. I hover at about 20 dates a month. So paying the girl $$ and then all the other possible associated costs, (room, booze, food, ubers) it can really add up. I need to average out at about 3k a month and that would never be possible with the $$ girls. I estimate they would push me to close to $$$ a date with those associated expenses. As it is I am at $.6 now. Some gils are at $ flat, but with my ATF or roommate I have to give in to the extra costs. But great report and keep them coming (with pics if possible). Most girls love having their pic taken. Makes em feel like a porn star.
I am not knocking the 99% of guys on USASG that want a different girl everyday. It's just not my thing. I get a much bigger rush from where I am gonna be able to push a regular I am seeing exclusively and over a long period of time. It's the only way for me to be able to get to the intensity of the kind of sex I need, and all the special techniques to accommodate my needs and all the training it takes to get a girl to that place. It just isnt possible any other way than with an SB.
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This probably should be in the PM I guess.
Yes, they should
On a side note on my last trip to LA I picked up a new baby in the Glendale area. I travel to Burbank periodically. I call her my Persian baby.
Which seems to produce more / better results, sd4 m or sa? I have made an sd4 me account but not paid yet because I heard about SA and was wondering which was better. Hell should I just do both? What are yall thoughts?
HollywoodGuy
10-06-15, 16:13
Which seems to produce more / better results, sd4 m or sa? I have made an sd4 me account but not paid yet because I heard about SA and was wondering which was better. Hell should I just do both? What are yall thoughts?At this time SA is way better. I only do SA now.
Went to Vegas for the weekend and did some SA research / reaching out beforehand. Had a few interested girls and I finally settled on a short, petite 19 year old black girl. Although I've been trying to be firm on $100 per meet, I figured I was in Vegas so I anticipated a slightly higher payout. We agreed to $200.
She showed up at my hotel and was dressed a little frumpy -- yoga pants and a blazer (strange combo). I suppose it was better for her to dress down than up, as a lot of the higher end hotels are wary of escorts / hookers. Anyway, we went up to my room and she was refreshingly very normal and sweet. I offered her a drink and we chatted for a few minutes before she asked to use the bathroom.
She came out completely naked except for her panties. Huge natural Cs on a tiny, petite frame. I undressed and we started DFKing like crazy. She gave me a fantastic BBBJ and then I returned the favor with DATY. She was responsive, although laying it on a little thick with the moaning. I appreciated the effort though.
When I came back up, she grabbed my cock and slid me in -- she was soaking wet and felt amazing. We went at it for a while, mixing up the positions. When I told her I was getting close, she told me to cum in her mouth. She sucked me dry and swallowed every drop.
Afterwards we cuddled and chatted -- she's very bright and seems to have a good head on her shoulders.
A great session at an amazing price. I've blown tons of $ on escorts / strippers / AMPs in Vegas (sometimes for little to no pay off), so I'm happy to say that my SA / SB test run worked out like gangbusters. Just something to consider when any of you gents go out of town and need an alternative to the usual sources.Did you pick her from an escort site, or from one of those ubiquitous cards they distribute on the Strip?
HollywoodGuy
10-06-15, 23:55
Did you pick her from an escort site, or from one of those ubiquitous cards they distribute on the Strip?It says in his post he found her on SA. seekingarrangement.com.
This site has been interesting. Lots more girls willing to meet for $ although next week is when I will really know if it comes true. Lots wanting thousands but lots happy with the offer. Always cracked me up when they complain that they're not prostitutes. Yes, you are, you just think that by charging in the thousands it makes you something else. We all know the old joke and it never was more applicable than on that site. The expectation means nothing as some will state one thing and take another. As always the AA and Latinas are the most likely to go with the deal. Would LOVE to find an Asian girl but they don't seem to find me interesting.Yeah it cracks me up too when they say this. I have personally seen girls off HX and BP on there, popular girls on HX, who have the some of the same profile quotes and the whole thing, listed on HX and SA, but on SA she claim she not an escort. The same exact girl. It's a companionship site for people looking to "hook up". Even escort sites say it is for companionship only, but when you arrive, clothes come off and "business" takes place. But yeah I have seen strippers and escorts on their saying they not "working girl" / prostitutes, yet posting ads on escort sites, and / or offering extras in the club. Fake ass girls. Girls usually try to live seperate lives, to one group of people she the biggest "working girl" and everybody hit it, but to another group of people she Ms highly respected and hard to get. And Ms Church girl.
There are many "working girls" in L. A. Who move out of town and become "wifey and Ms respectful" to somebody else. Yet the people out of town don't know she was a "working Girl" in L. A. And everybody had her.
Yeah it cracks me up too when they say this. I have personally seen girls off HX and BP on there, popular girls on HX, who have the some of the same profile quotes and the whole thing, listed on HX and SA, but on SA she claim she not an escort. The same exact girl. It's a companionship site for people looking to "hook up". Even escort sites say it is for companionship only, but when you arrive, clothes come off and "business" takes place. But yeah I have seen strippers and escorts on their saying they not "working girl" / prostitutes, yet posting ads on escort sites, and / or offering extras in the club. Fake ass girls. Girls usually try to live seperate lives, to one group of people she the biggest "working girl" and everybody hit it, but to another group of people she Ms highly respected and hard to get. And Ms Church girl.
There are many "working girls" in L. A. Who move out of town and become "wifey and Ms respectful" to somebody else. Yet the people out of town don't know she was a "working Girl" in L. A. And everybody had her.Any experience with webcam girls? They claim they are not working girls but I am still not sure. I dated one, she played hard to get at first. Was unable to dig into her past.
HollywoodGuy
10-07-15, 10:32
Any experience with webcam girls? They claim they are not working girls but I am still not sure. I dated one, she played hard to get at first. Was unable to dig into her past.I dated a couple of them. I guess being good at masturbating didn't translate into real life skills as well. They were both a little weak in the FC.
Any experience with webcam girls? They claim they are not working girls but I am still not sure. I dated one, she played hard to get at first. Was unable to dig into her past.But I am thinking of hitting up Rose Monroe the porn star who is on Camster, Virgo Peridot, and Gianna Michaels all pornstars who escort. I would love to get Steph kegals, Selena Adams or SpicyJ too. All of them are hottt. Except for the ones who escort, I don't know how to get in touch with any. Also I'm not a paid member of any webcam sites, I don't believe in spending money on "adult ent" when I can't see, feel, touch, etc Live and in person, face to face. Most times you can't message them or chat unless you have tokens to tip.
HollywoodGuy
10-08-15, 10:10
But I am thinking of hitting up Rose Monroe the porn star who is on Camster, Virgo Peridot, and Gianna Michaels all pornstars who escort. I would love to get Steph kegals, Selena Adams or SpicyJ too. All of them are hottt. Except for the ones who escort, I don't know how to get in touch with any. Also I'm not a paid member of any webcam sites, I don't believe in spending money on "adult ent" when I can't see, feel, touch, etc Live and in person, face to face. Most times you can't message them or chat unless you have tokens to tip.The cam girls I met were on SA. But they did both relate experiences to me where a big tipper did convince them to meet them for a date.
ScarletJ089
10-08-15, 11:07
I'm twenty something and still have goals. Needs and wants to get there. Don't judge until you really get to know someone and give. Them a chance. You never no.
Can anyone verify if this is one of the "default response girls" when you create your account. I created my account yesterday and did not even pay yet and this morning this lady sent me two messages.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e70930211/view?conversation-inbox
HollywoodGuy
10-08-15, 12:21
Can anyone verify if this is one of the "default response girls" when you create your account. I created my account yesterday and did not even pay yet and this morning this lady sent me two messages.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e70930211/view?conversation-inboxProbably legit. But you can do way better that that. She should be paying you.
The cam girls I met were on SA. But they did both relate experiences to me where a big tipper did convince them to meet them for a date.Yep you have to tip, but once you got her it is free. But she traveled from LA to Europe and we did all kind of fun stuff.
Probably legit. But you can do way better that that. She should be paying you.Haha thanks! I will look into it and maybe I could user her to get my feet wet. Sort of practice haha. I will find out tomorrow, once I unlock her messages. Thanks again.
So I notice they have levels of expectations. In you guys experience, can you put a $ amount to the expectation level? On another note; some of these chicks are re-fuXXing-diculous hahaha. Read about 50 profiles, I can't count how may times I came across "I am not a h0 e, I will not f**k you for money," or "you are paying me to be your friend, I do not have sex for money. " ***** please! That is my favorite LOL.
ChickenHawk88
10-08-15, 14:46
Do you guys also do the background check to your profile? Just signed up and trying to weed out the pros out. Any tips would be great.
Beachesnole02
10-08-15, 16:07
So I notice they have levels of expectations. In you guys experience, can you put a $ amount to the expectation level? On another note; some of these chicks are re-fuXXing-diculous hahaha. Read about 50 profiles, I can't count how may times I came across "I am not a h0 e, I will not f**k you for money," or "you are paying me to be your friend, I do not have sex for money. " ***** please! That is my favorite LOL.You should not rule those out. They are just tired of the "hey can I come over and fuck your for $100" messages. I have had some wild hot sweaty sex with the "I will not have sex with anyone form this site" profiles.
HollywoodGuy
10-08-15, 18:41
Do you guys also do the background check to your profile? Just signed up and trying to weed out the pros out. Any tips would be great.Google their pictures, phone # and email address, and everything before the @ sign.
Was reading around on the expectations and some of these ladies are stating minimal to substantial be 1 k to 10 k plus. WTF! One guy mentioned he has a $$$ budget and dates regularly for $. 5 LOL that made me happy to see that LOL.
HollywoodGuy
10-09-15, 10:45
Was reading around on the expectations and some of these ladies are stating minimal to substantial be 1 k to 10 k plus. WTF! One guy mentioned he has a $$$ budget and dates regularly for $. 5 LOL that made me happy to see that LOL.Do not let their expectation request throw you. But the ones that say "Negotiable" will be the most likely prospects. Just an FYI, a girl my daughter referred to SA met a guy that spent 90 k in 6 months and then proposed with a 60 k ring. So the crazies are out there.
This thread isn't just about finding, getting and keeping an SB happy. It's more about doing it for a fair price. Because if you can afford $$ and $$$ a date just for the girl plus the extras that go with it (rooms, uber, party favors, dinners) then there is very little game involved in accomplishing that.
Or if you are trying to achieve those $$ and $$$ dates with 10+ model white girls that at least believe they have the skills to please an older man, then that would be an accomplishment as well. I prefer the girl next door types with a wild side that can only gain true satisfaction knowing they have been a good girl for daddy and will do almost anything to achieve that. Most model types arent too worried about that.
In LA, the OC and the IE combined there are about 100 new profiles a day on SA. Most of these girls do not have a clue what to ask for, so many of them go high hoping to win the lottery. With that many newbies (and many are first timers) go make your introduction. Explain the value added benefits of being with you but at a lower amount per date, and you might be surprised at the response from GPS looking girl that really would be happy to just have a date with a nice guy thats not a loser i.e. (you got a job, a decent car, show respect, and spend enough to be respectable).
Do not let their expectation request throw you. But the ones that say "Negotiable" will be the most likely prospects. Just an FYI, a girl my daughter referred to SA met a guy that spent 90 k in 6 months and then proposed with a 60 k ring. So the crazies are out there.
This thread isn't just about finding, getting and keeping an SB happy. It's more about doing it for a fair price. Because if you can afford $$ and $$$ a date just for the girl plus the extras that go with it (rooms, uber, party favors, dinners) then there is very little game involved in accomplishing that.
Or if you are trying to achieve those $$ and $$$ dates with 10+ model white girls that at least believe they have the skills to please an older man, then that would be an accomplishment as well. I prefer the girl next door types with a wild side that can only gain true satisfaction knowing they have been a good girl for daddy and will do almost anything to achieve that. Most model types arent too worried about that.
In LA, the OC and the IE combined there are about 100 new profiles a day on SA. Most of these girls do not have a clue what to ask for, so many of them go high hoping to win the lottery. With that many newbies (and many are first timers) go make your introduction. Explain the value added benefits of being with you but at a lower amount per date, and you might be surprised at the response from GPS looking girl that really would be happy to just have a date with a nice guy thats not a loser i.e. (you got a job, a decent car, show respect, and spend enough to be respectable).More research to be done. I have been kind of checking out the GND types as you mentioned and funny enough those are the ones that are messaging me. We shall see how this goes.
HollywoodGuy
10-09-15, 12:42
More research to be done. I have been kind of checking out the GND types as you mentioned and funny enough those are the ones that are messaging me. We shall see how this goes.I just did my morning saved searches. So this search would only show girls that signed on in the last 12 hours (as I do this twice a day). I got 40 hits off my three saved searches and sent out four messages. That works out to about 200 total messages a month (as I will do it again tonite). That would easily result in one or two new M&G's a week. Do 5 or 10 of those and you will find a keeper for sure. Meaning an attractive sexy girl that likes you, that you like back, is affordable and loves the FC more than a fancy dinner. Over a years time this will result in a small group of reliable girls you can tap while always on the hunt for a new one as all good things do come to an end eventually.
And while you are waiting for a keeper there will be some decent one and two night stands along the way. At my age (61) I am going to get a lot of turn downs due to age. I still manage to score some teens, never (almost never go over 27) and tomorrow I do have 2 M&G's planned, both in their mid twenties. Both petite, one is looking like a real first timer, the other a UTR. But both have been email qualified as to some shared sexual preferences and $ amount prior to meeting. Both will most likely hit the FC. Are they keepers? Maybe the first timer. In the mean time I will continue to look for some teen spinners and fuck my regulars.
One down side you will encounter are girls professing to enjoy the same type of sexual acts and intimacy that you do. At least half of them are lying just to be able to get a M&G with you. They are hoping their other qualities will make up for any deficiencies they may have in the areas you have discussed with them. So yes there is a lot of work and uncertainty. But the results will materialize over time. Like the man says "I guarantee it".
I just did my morning saved searches. So this search would only show girls that signed on in the last 12 hours (as I do this twice a day). I got 40 hits off my three saved searches and sent out four messages. That works out to about 200 total messages a month (as I will do it again tonite). That would easily result in one or two new M&G's a week. Do 5 or 10 of those and you will find a keeper for sure. Meaning an attractive sexy girl that likes you, that you like back, is affordable and loves the FC more than a fancy dinner. Over a years time this will result in a small group of reliable girls you can tap while always on the hunt for a new one as all good things do come to an end eventually.
And while you are waiting for a keeper there will be some decent one and two night stands along the way. At my age (61) I am going to get a lot of turn downs due to age. I still manage to score some teens, never (almost never go over 27) and tomorrow I do have 2 M&G's planned, both in their mid twenties. Both petite, one is looking like a real first timer, the other a UTR. But both have been email qualified as to some shared sexual preferences and $ amount prior to meeting. Both will most likely hit the FC. Are they keepers? Maybe the first timer. In the mean time I will continue to look for some teen spinners and fuck my regulars.
One down side you will encounter girls professing to enjoy the same type of sexual acts and intimacy that you do. At least half of them are lying just to be able to get a M&G with you. They are hoping their other qualities will make up for any deficiencies they may have in the areas you may have discussed with them. So yes there is a lot of work and uncertainty. But the results will materialize over time. Like the man says "I guarantee it".Down to a damn science haha. So on the M&G, is that included in the $ or is that sort of a ok I would like to continue type deal then the $ comes after you have "closed the deal"?
HollywoodGuy
10-09-15, 13:13
Down to a damn science haha. So on the M&G, is that included in the $ or is that sort of a ok I would like to continue type deal then the $ comes after you have "closed the deal"?An M&G should be a starbucks to save time and money. But a couple days ago I did one at Bottega Louie for lunch as I was hungry, eat there all the time anyway and occasionally like some company with my meal. So that girl got lucky as her share of the meal was 30 dollars.
But the $ is for an FC visit only. At most of my starbuck meets (once I get there) I always say "lets just talk in the car". So I really don't spend a dime on those.
Saw this and immediately thought of this thread!
http://imgur.com/gallery/0bOi4NO
ChickenHawk88
10-10-15, 04:06
Thanks HG for the advise. Will send out a lot more messages and see how it goes. I'm kinda like you. I'm not going to Richard Gere their asses but will help them.
Saw this and immediately thought of this thread!
http://imgur.com/gallery/0bOi4NOWhat the hell was I looking at?
HollywoodGuy
10-11-15, 03:55
I totally 100% had the day off work today. So first I did what turned out to be a 2 M&G at a starbucks that led to the FC but nothing happened. A very straight ass girl that could have lost 10 lbs before trying to be so picky.
Later in the afternoon I saw my new UTR girl for a two hour real date. I swear her pussy in indestructible as I savaged it very roughly for at least an hour before we switched to something a little lighter. I cant wait to get some pics of her.
Then this evening I saw my ATF for another 2 hour date. If I have a quarter brain cel left I will find a way not to see anyone tomorrow.
Member #5794
10-14-15, 19:19
These are all black girls right? I would not take a black gal to a starbucks in a nice area. You get really odd looks, and most people know what is going down. I would go to a restaurant.
These are all black girls right? I would not take a black gal to a starbucks in a nice area. You get really odd looks, and most people know what is going down. I would go to a restaurant.I'm curious, how's a restaurant any different? I'd think a casual high traffic starbucks is easier to blend in. Besides, with multiple Meet and Greets, restaurant tabs add up too much. Starbucks M&Gs keeps the costs down, and in HG's case, he skips the coffee and takes the conversations to the car so the cost is zero.
HollywoodGuy
10-14-15, 20:10
I'm curious, how's a restaurant any different? I'd think a casual high traffic starbucks is easier to blend in. Besides, with multiple Meet and Greets, restaurant tabs add up too much. Starbucks M&Gs keeps the costs down, and in HG's case, he skips the coffee and takes the conversations to the car so the cost is zero.I only meet them in my area. Which is mixed. Also I always escort them straight to my car. I usually get there first, spot them, have the car parked in a discreet place, and avoid any looks. Which I could care less about anyway.
Or if they dont drive I have them meet me in DTLA or I just pick them up a block or so from their house. This has never been an issue.
Probably legit. But you can do way better that that. She should be paying you.Turns out this chick is either a pro or utr. I had a conversation with her and she wanted $$ 50 per visit. She initially asked for $$ 50 per visit based on other arrangements. I played the "dumb" roll and she ate it up. I told her I only wanted to spend $ and she LOL and said, "all I would get is nasty skanks and I should be careful. " So I asked what I would get for the $$ 50. She said, "We can have completely covered and safe adult fun for exactly one hour". BEEOCH PLEASE! I told her that I talked to a buddy of mine (did not hehe) and he said that only a Pro or UTR would ask for such things. I did it just for fun and she replied immediately, "you and your buddy sound like jackasses. " Then she blocked me haha. I would have posted the convo but I could not access it because of the block for some reason. Oh well.
On a more positive note. I have about 4 that I am working on. 2 college students (both 19 Latinas) and 2 Latina milfs. One of the milfs will meet next week and literally all she talks about is fucking and is asking for nothing in return. She is a little chubby but not BBW, pretty face. The other MILF is on the fence because of the offer but I sweet talked her and she is supposed to get back to me. She has a nice athletic body. As for the college ladies, one will meet with me and agreed to $. 50 per visit, we are hashing out what the visits will include right now. The other I haven't heard from since the offer so. Idk.
Thanks for encouraging signing up for SA HWG. Hopefully I will be rolling in NANI by the end of the week, next week at the latest.
HollywoodGuy
10-15-15, 15:49
Turns out this chick is either a pro or utr. I had a conversation with her and she wanted $$ 50 per visit. She initially asked for $$ 50 per visit based on other arrangements. I played the "dumb" roll and she ate it up. I told her I only wanted to spend $ and she LOL and said, "all I would get is nasty skanks and I should be careful. " So I asked what I would get for the $$ 50. She said, "We can have completely covered and safe adult fun for exactly one hour". BEEOCH PLEASE! I told her that I talked to a buddy of mine (did not hehe) and he said that only a Pro or UTR would ask for such things. I did it just for fun and she replied immediately, "you and your buddy sound like jackasses. " Then she blocked me haha. I would have posted the convo but I could not access it because of the block for some reason. Oh well.
On a more positive note. I have about 4 that I am working on. 2 college students (both 19 Latinas) and 2 Latina milfs. One of the milfs will meet next week and literally all she talks about is fucking and is asking for nothing in return. She is a little chubby but not BBW, pretty face. The other MILF is on the fence because of the offer but I sweet talked her and she is supposed to get back to me. She has a nice athletic body. As for the college ladies, one will meet with me and agreed to $. 50 per visit, we are hashing out what the visits will include right now. The other I haven't heard from since the offer so. Idk.
Thanks for encouraging signing up for SA HWG. Hopefully I will be rolling in NANI by the end of the week, next week at the latest.There is no doubt that you will be as there is an over abundance of inexpensive, sweet smelling, and willing pussy all over L. A. Will they be super models for a $ ? No. Will they have killer bods, pleasing personalities and at least qualify as cute & sexy ? Yes.
Sa has been much more productive than the other site for me. Next week I am seeing at least two cute Latinas. One is 18 or 19 has a great rack on her and by the texts we have shared an intelligent and interesting girl. Have followed Hollywood Guy's advice and stuck with the $. With just the guarantee of a HJ for me and every time it has ended in FC or a BJ. I am not in shape but I guess I am decent looking and I have a very fun and respectful personality. I was talking about taking her out to dinner and going to a nice place and she texted back "or I could give you a HJ or BJ in your car. " Ha ha! So I pretty much know by going back to a place we will be doing FC. Another is a cute petite MILF with really solid nice petite tits. We have talked on the phone a couple times and she has said she gets freaky so "don't judge". I honestly don't know if I can kept up with her, but I am going to try. Both of these cuties haven't had sex in months.
Then a third who was very much of the "I am not a booty call or prostitute. " Variety. Gorgeous African American. He body is a bit larger from what I can see, but her face is a ten. I have seen a lot of pics. I tend to be a face guy so I am fine with that. We spoke on the phone and she just wants a little help now and then. Her idea of a nice restaurant is Red Lobster. I For me, I do take them to what they think of as a nice dinner because I think it makes them feel special and help them rationalize going back to a place with basically a stranger. There are a number of others. But like HG mentioned there are other costs. Hotels, Ubers. I do not have the income to sustain this at this cost but I have moved at least one to a FWB status and definitely have another that I can lower the cost on because she just really wants someone who values her. She is just 18 and has had shitty sex her whole life so I look like a sex God in comparison. LOL. She loves to fuck, is very good at giving head and takes direction well. She loves role play. Last time together, I started massaging that virgin little asshole and she got crazy turned on. She loves to be spanked. I could definitely film her, but I feel a little bad about doing that to someone so naive. Had her dress up in a nurses outfit and throw on big lashes and deep red lipstick and with her DD's in a push up bra, it was awesome. Threw her back on a desk where she was hanging half way off the other side and fucked her like crazy. For the price of a hotel room, a halloween costume and some cheap lingerie. We were together for four hours. Working out to about. 5 an hour. And I told her we needed to go some place less expensive next time. I put in money upfront and then lower it. If they lose interest before I do, so be it. BUT I have learned a valuable lesson. If they don't think they are pros, you cannot do a meeting to pay response. I lost a fantastic lover because I did that. Will never do it again. When they write "How about buying me some shoes?" I write "Of course. " I don't bring it up again. If they do, then I will deal with it.
HollywoodGuy
10-17-15, 12:22
After a couple of STD scares in the last year that all turned out to be nothing, I am including at some point in my messaging prior to meeting, the date of my last test and asking them when was theirs.
AHF Wellness Center - Hollywood - 1300 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles , CA 90027
Totally free and they test for everything except herpes. For that I pay the $80 at labcorp.
Made contact with a super cute and slim 18 year old Latina and made the usual $ pitch. She countered by asking if I could increase the rate if she brought her friend. After she sent over an almost TGTBT pic of the two of them (two hot 18 year olds in bra and panties posing like pornstars), I offered three bills total. She quickly accepted and we made arrangements to meet at a Starbucks near her area.
I did the usual google / social media research and was wary since her number turned up a cholo looking guy. Maybe a pimp? Maybe her dad's phone? I had a bad feeling, but the price point, pictures and prospect of having my first threesome (with two hot 18 year old girls, no less) seemed way too enticing to pass up immediately. Meeting in a public place during the day also made me feel a little more secure.
Met them both in front of the Starbucks and I was blown away. They were both gorgeous -- a Latina with sharp, cat like features and a killer thin body, while her friend was a curvier, cute white blonde chick. I really couldn't believe they were legit. They both seemed nervous, which was oddly encouraging.
They admitted that this was the first time they had done something like this, but both seemed game for whatever. We got to know each other a little better over lunch and they admitted that they were practically lesbians at this point (mostly due to boys their age being. Well, boys). They began to get very suggestive in conversation and after a while couldn't wait to get to the action.
Went to a hotel and they made a beeline for the bed and started making out. I joined them and we started undressing -- I couldn't believe this was actually happening. I won't go blow for blow (pardon the pun), but it was really intense. They both made sure I was having a great time while they also did stuff to each other that I've only ever seen in porn! They weren't kidding about being borderline lesbians.
The only downer was that they were insistent on protection. I sometimes have issues with condoms and with the kind of chaotic rhythm of a threesome, it was hard to always maintain. It did sound like they were receptive to not using it next time though.
Once the fun ended, they started calling me daddy and seemed to be really excited about the next meetup. I kept wondering to myself, "Is this real life?
By the end of the year my daughter will have moved out. She finally got the dream job. And my current roommate says she is moving out by Thanksgiving. So for the first time in almost 4 years I will have my house all to myself. I am going to redecorate my daughters room into a little princess palace / cam model room. Lots of girls have nowhere to cam and pay people like a third or more of their income for the priveledge of using their studio. Could be a new way to meet some real hotties. I,ll make the fee TGTBT and still make it worth my while. I know my X who now stopped dancing and got a legit job would be my first (but non paying model). Pictured.Good idea to meet cam girls. Some good ones out there but costly to meet. Good luck, keep us posted!
HollywoodGuy
10-19-15, 11:03
Made contact with a super cute and slim 18 year old Latina and made the usual $ pitch. She countered by asking if I could increase the rate if she brought her friend. After she sent over an almost TGTBT pic of the two of them (two hot 18 year olds in bra and panties posing like pornstars), I offered three bills total. She quickly accepted and we made arrangements to meet at a Starbucks near her area.
Once the fun ended, they started calling me daddy and seemed to be really excited about the next meetup. I kept wondering to myself, "Is this real life?You met them on SA? I see lots of GG couples on there now. Usually one is hot and the other not as hot. Good report.
You met them on SA? I see lots of GG couples on there now. Usually one is hot and the other not as hot. Good report.Yeah, they're SA girls, although they have their own, separate profiles. A day earlier I was messaged by one of those pair accounts you wrote about -- two mediocre white girls who were asking for $1000. I wanted to tell them that I could easily hook up a threesome with 2 hot Korean escorts for $500 and then this dream scenario dropped into my lap.
On GG girls: Hey glad you got lucky and it worked out so well just becareful cause it's two on one and sometimes one distracts while the other loots your wallet a favorite trick is to take one credit card in the middle so you don't notice or some of the money.
On Cam girls: great when it works my experience with massage girls is they rarely convert kinda like strippers, and yes this depends on club and area.
I hit the place up. All free even parking. I tried to donate but they won't take cash. Funny thing is the girl went "you have NEVER had an HIV test before? Also, there were two totally hot women together there and looked like pros. The nurse talks to one of them in the hallway and says "I'll need you to give an urine sample for the chlamydia test".
I had to wait for 2 hours but figured it was worth saving the 250 bucks it costs elsewhere.
After a couple of STD scares in the last year that all turned out to be nothing, I am including at some point in my messaging prior to meeting, the date of my last test and asking them when was theirs.
AHF Wellness Center - Hollywood - 1300 N Vermont Ave, Los Angeles , CA 90027
Totally free and they test for everything except herpes. For that I pay the $80 at labcorp.
On GG girls: Hey glad you got lucky and it worked out so well just becareful cause it's two on one and sometimes one distracts while the other loots your wallet a favorite trick is to take one credit card in the middle so you don't notice or some of the money.
Yeah, I was definitely wary of any shady business early on, but they were both so young and shy that I ended up trusting them. Later, they seemed more interested in fucking each other than me, so I wasn't too worried about getting distracted, haha.
BTW, what's a GG?
HollywoodGuy
10-20-15, 01:09
I hit the place up. All free even parking. I tried to donate but they won't take cash. Funny thing is the girl went "you have NEVER had an HIV test before? Also, there were two totally hot women together there and looked like pros. The nurse talks to one of them in the hallway and says "I'll need you to give an urine sample for the chlamydia test".
I had to wait for 2 hours but figured it was worth saving the 250 bucks it costs elsewhere.If you pick the right time. Like Saturday at like noon or 1 you can be in and out in less than an hour. And you can't beat free. Plus results posted privately online, so you can show a girl if you need to.
HollywoodGuy
10-20-15, 01:10
Yeah, I was definitely wary of any shady business early on, but they were both so young and shy that I ended up trusting them. Later, they seemed more interested in fucking each other than me, so I wasn't too worried about getting distracted, haha.
BTW, what's a GG?GG. Girl, Girl. Two girls in the same profile.
Had my first meet with another 18 yr Latina out in riverside. Very cool student. Very into culture. Great rack on her and gorgeous dark skin. Heavier than the pics but I blame that on the Freshman fifteen. Has had a ton of sexually adventures but I found out mostly when she was tipsy or high. Got a deal on a great hotel and thought she would enjoy that. She did, but she was actually a bit intimidated by it. She would not let herself come because she said she gets really loud! LOL. She has the cutest little pussy I have seen in a long, long time. It is just this gorgeous tiny thing. She has beautiful hair and great eyes. Great to talk to. She gave decent head and was up for whatever I suggested. She was really nervous though and so a lot of the time I was trying to make her relax. She got me off but we didn't fuck this time. It was fine. She had to be back to the dorms because of a curfew. Incredible. She is definitely up for meeting again and actually wants to go to a less nice place because she would feel better about letting go. Also have a place out in Palm Springs we could go to, or she is completely up for a road trip.
My other 18 year old (A sentence I never thought I would be writing.) Really wanted to meet this week. But I have two other meets scheduled closer to home. She wants me to buy her a Disney pass which is far beyond the range of what I am willing to do, but she also asked me what I wanted for Christmas! Got to love it. Below is the little gift she sent me this week.
Really wanted to meet this week. But I have two other meets scheduled closer to home. She wants me to buy her a Disney pass which is far beyond the range of what I am willing to do, but she also asked me what I wanted for Christmas! Got to love it. Below is the little gift she sent me this week.Disney pass. Yikes. The price on those went up too.
Maybe if you put it on the monthly payment plan under her name and you gave her the $ on a monthly allowance under terms VERY favorable to you?
HeartofaLion
10-21-15, 20:45
By the end of the year my daughter will have moved out. She finally got the dream job. And my current roommate says she is moving out by Thanksgiving. So for the first time in almost 4 years I will have my house all to myself. I am going to redecorate my daughters room into a little princess palace / cam model room. Lots of girls have nowhere to cam and pay people like a third or more of their income for the priveledge of using their studio. Could be a new way to meet some real hotties. I,ll make the fee TGTBT and still make it worth my while. I know my X who now stopped dancing and got a legit job would be my first (but non paying model). Pictured.Wow, nice, it sounds really good.
HollywoodGuy
10-22-15, 02:25
Had my first meet with another 18 yr Latina out in riverside. Very cool student. Very into culture. Great rack on her and gorgeous dark skin. Heavier than the pics but I blame that on the Freshman fifteen. Has had a ton of sexually adventures but I found out mostly when she was tipsy or high. Got a deal on a great hotel and thought she would enjoy that. She did, but she was actually a bit intimidated by it. She would not let herself come because she said she gets really loud! LOL. She has the cutest little pussy I have seen in a long, long time. It is just this gorgeous tiny thing. She has beautiful hair and great eyes. Great to talk to. She gave decent head and was up for whatever I suggested. She was really nervous though and so a lot of the time I was trying to make her relax. She got me off but we didn't fuck this time. It was fine. She had to be back to the dorms because of a curfew. Incredible. She is definitely up for meeting again and actually wants to go to a less nice place because she would feel better about letting go. Also have a place out in Palm Springs we could go to, or she is completely up for a road trip.
My other 18 year old (A sentence I never thought I would be writing.) Really wanted to meet this week. But I have two other meets scheduled closer to home. She wants me to buy her a Disney pass which is far beyond the range of what I am willing to do, but she also asked me what I wanted for Christmas! Got to love it. Below is the little gift she sent me this week.The amount of good and easy to get pussy in Riverside, Moreno even Hemet. All those way far away places is staggering, because there are no guys. Like none, zero, nada. A $ to these girls is like mana from heaven. I refuse to drive out there anymore. Did it a few times. But now I am so spoiled by uber there is no chance of me going there. I am in hollywood. If I uber a girl from the hood (even down to the 105) its like .4 or so RT on average (slightly more at peak times) and I am saving like an hour and a half to two hours of my time. Plus the actual cost of me driving is at least half of that anyway.
My new UTR girl "N" (who I passed to one happy senior), has moved to pasadena. She is taking public transport to union station (7 minutes from me) and she is quite happy with the $ donation. She is a little tore up from bein a mom, but her pussy and ass rock. Plus I love her sweet and shy demeanor. At the moment I am getting a ton of girls responding, but haven't closed the deal on anyone new. Today I had to jerk it as all 3 of my regulars couldn't make it for a nooner and that was my only opening today.
HollywoodGuy
10-22-15, 02:32
Wow, nice, it sounds really good.Its a win win I hope. If I can get paid for doing nothing, great. I know I can convert a couple of them to UTR status. If they aren't already. Or like "Hey, skip the room fee and just take care of me". Either way I am never pushy. Just not my style.
BigBear818
10-22-15, 07:43
Had my first meet with another 18 yr Latina out in riverside. Very cool student. Very into culture. Great rack on her and gorgeous dark skin. Heavier than the pics but I blame that on the Freshman fifteen. Has had a ton of sexually adventures but I found out mostly when she was tipsy or high. Got a deal on a great hotel and thought she would enjoy that. She did, but she was actually a bit intimidated by it. She would not let herself come because she said she gets really loud! LOL. She has the cutest little pussy I have seen in a long, long time. It is just this gorgeous tiny thing. She has beautiful hair and great eyes. Great to talk to. She gave decent head and was up for whatever I suggested. She was really nervous though and so a lot of the time I was trying to make her relax. She got me off but we didn't fuck this time. It was fine. She had to be back to the dorms because of a curfew. Incredible. She is definitely up for meeting again and actually wants to go to a less nice place because she would feel better about letting go. Also have a place out in Palm Springs we could go to, or she is completely up for a road trip.
My other 18 year old (A sentence I never thought I would be writing.) Really wanted to meet this week. But I have two other meets scheduled closer to home. She wants me to buy her a Disney pass which is far beyond the range of what I am willing to do, but she also asked me what I wanted for Christmas! Got to love it. Below is the little gift she sent me this week.She may not be a 10, but she looks good and young enough to have a good time with, especially for $. It's too bad she's located way out in the IE area.
BigBear818
10-23-15, 07:50
Can't get over my X GF/SB. It's not hard to see why. Once I clear my house out I am going to try to start seeing her once a week. I must be talking to a dozen girls on SA right now, but havent closed the deal officially on anyone I really want. Just a couple UTR's but no first timers. And thats what I really need right now.She looks like she could possibly be a freak between the sheets. I just signed onto SA and SD4 M recently and I've been very impressed with the SB's on both sites. I'm tempted to see some of the SB's that caught my attention, but my time with them would have to be limited because my daughter lives with me and would become suspicious towards what I'm doing.
Beachesnole02
10-23-15, 17:45
What is being used for reverse lookup of phone and email addresses? I have used Spokeo, but it was meeh. Anything better?
JohnnyTheWad
10-24-15, 16:50
She looks like she could possibly be a freak between the sheets. I just signed onto SA and SD4 M recently and I've been very impressed with the SB's on both sites. I'm tempted to see some of the SB's that caught my attention, but my time with them would have to be limited because my daughter lives with me and would become suspicious towards what I'm doing.I am just hearing about SA? Can you tell me what that is and a link? I googled SA and all I got was Sexaholics Anonymous LMAO.
I am just hearing about SA? Can you tell me what that is and a link? I googled SA and all I got was Sexaholics Anonymous LMAO.SA = Seeking Arrangement.
Don in Denver (still trying to find SU = Sexaholics Unanimous 8-.
HollywoodGuy
10-24-15, 20:56
ATF - All Time Favorite.
BCG - Booty Call Girl.
Bowl - Short for sugar bowl.
FC - Fuck Chamber.
GPS - Golden Pussy Syndrome.
HCB - Hot College Babe.
HYB - Hot Young Babe.
HYM - Hot Young Mom.
HG - Hollywood Guy.
HWG - Hollywood Guy.
M&G - Meet and Greet.
NP - Non-pro. Has never taken on dime in exchange for her time. Ever.
POT - A Potential SB.
SA - seekingarrangement.com.
SD4M - sugardaddyforme.com.
SO - Signifigant Other.
UTR - Under The Radar (a pro on the down low).
4 level rating system - 8/9/9/8 - face / body / personality / skills.
HeartofaLion
10-24-15, 22:54
Its a win win I hope. If I can get paid for doing nothing, great. I know I can convert a couple of them to UTR status. If they aren't already. Or like "Hey, skip the room fee and just take care of me". Either way I am never pushy. Just not my style.Sounds fair. If you need a foot guy on camera you know where to find me, I wouldn't mind been on camera, have been in front about 400 times.
Decorating the room will definitely raise up the production value,hehehe that is a place I would love to get a foot session, I wouldn't even care if this was a pre-set up, because all is on the mind and we can make our mind believe that is really happening even for a moment.
HollywoodGuy
10-25-15, 05:10
Sounds fair. If you need a foot guy on camera you know where to find me, I wouldn't mind been on camera, have been in front about 400 times.
Decorating the room will definitely raise up the production value,hehehe that is a place I would love to get a foot session, I wouldn't even care if this was a pre-set up, because all is on the mind and we can make our mind believe that is really happening even for a moment.Anything is possible. I am going to keep it organic though. So whatever way the wind blows.
Why is she moving out? Stunning girl.
Sounds fair. If you need a foot guy on camera you know where to find me, I wouldn't mind been on camera, have been in front about 400 times.
Decorating the room will definitely raise up the production value,hehehe that is a place I would love to get a foot session, I wouldn't even care if this was a pre-set up, because all is on the mind and we can make our mind believe that is really happening even for a moment.Sorry I know this is slightly off subject here on Sugar the's discussion forum, but here goes:
I got a non-descript ride with nice dark tinted windows and camera with 75-300 zoom lens. I find it difficult if not down-right impossible to drive, keep an eye open for uncle LEO and shoot pictures.
Is there a fellow monger / wingman that would be interested in taking an hour or two to cruise Fig and snap some pix while I drive? I figure the end of the month is coming up and the girls will be out in full force and on display.
PM if interested.
JohnnyTheWad
10-25-15, 17:52
SA = Seeking Arrangement.
Don in Denver (still trying to find SU = Sexaholics Unanimous 8-.LOL amen. And I found it. Interesting site which I will most likely pursue. Thanks for the info. JTW in ICT.
ChickenHawk88
10-25-15, 21:50
Seems like lot of the girls / ladies that respond are looking at $400 per meet. Ill keep looking but seems really hard to get the $ to $. 5 range.
This girl is UTR verging on pro. I would bet $ on it. She contacts me. And keeps asking me what I want and when I told her I want NSA sex and a per date arrangement this is what she says.
I won't have any sexual relations with my sugar daddy until he has gained my trust & showed me he's serious about our arrangement. I have no plans on being an escort. My time is valuable and my body is priceless. I first need to see how good you are at valuing my time. If your generous guy from the start that sets the tone. Shows me that your serious and not just about sex. But if you are that's fine! We just won't be continuing our friendship.
Member #5794
10-26-15, 01:13
What is being used for reverse lookup of phone and email addresses? I have used Spokeo, but it was meeh. Anything better?I can find just about anyone with a cell number, unless it is a very new burner. Spokeo is a start.
HollywoodGuy
10-26-15, 03:27
Why is she moving out? Stunning girl.I told her when she got here it was only temporary until she made enough money to get out. She is not my type in the FC, and that always has to be the determining factor for me. I like her and I needed her for certain things, which she provided. But her services will no longer be needed by her exit date which at the moment is just before thanksgiving.
HollywoodGuy
10-26-15, 03:30
Seems like lot of the girls / ladies that respond are looking at $400 per meet. Ill keep looking but seems really hard to get the $ to $. 5 range.You are going to have to give up something to get below the $$ mark. Something. Looks, body, age, race, but something. But never give up on skills. You most likely already have a wife or a GF thats already not up to par on the skills level. In my case I just get bored even when they are 10's in the FC. But anything less is never going to work in the long term.
HollywoodGuy
10-26-15, 03:33
This girl is UTR verging on pro. I would bet $ on it. She contacts me. And keeps asking me what I want and when I told her I want NSA sex and a per date arrangement this is what she says.
I won't have any sexual relations with my sugar daddy until he has gained my trust & showed me he's serious about our arrangement. I have no plans on being an escort. My time is valuable and my body is priceless. I first need to see how good you are at valuing my time. If your generous guy from the start that sets the tone. Shows me that your serious and not just about sex. But if you are that's fine! We just won't be continuing our friendship.You are joking right? There are hundreds of girls on these sites. If you don't get the immediate desired responses, then move on. Unless you just like the challenge. My life is challenging enough. Never get into it with any of these girls. If they are not willing to do what you want then just go to the next one. Never engage in fruitless conversation.
HollywoodGuy
10-26-15, 03:36
I can find just about anyone with a cell number, unless it is a very new burner. Spokeo is a start.Getting their email address is usually even better.
But I always get both or I never agree to meet them.
This girl is UTR verging on pro. I would bet $ on it. She contacts me. And keeps asking me what I want and when I told her I want NSA sex and a per date arrangement this is what she says.
I won't have any sexual relations with my sugar daddy until he has gained my trust & showed me he's serious about our arrangement. I have no plans on being an escort. My time is valuable and my body is priceless. I first need to see how good you are at valuing my time. If your generous guy from the start that sets the tone. Shows me that your serious and not just about sex. But if you are that's fine! We just won't be continuing our friendship.Hilarious. Move on.
I can find just about anyone with a cell number, unless it is a very new burner. Spokeo is a start.To add to this, install messaging apps like kik or whatsapp. Once you enter someone's number into your phone's contact list, they'll pop up in these apps if they have an account. Sometimes they'll use their usual user I'd or even list their name in these apps. Using combinations of phone numbers, email addresses, and info gleaned from social media apps, I can usually find out more information.
For instance, in reference to the threesome I posted about, one of the girls' popped up on kik, where she listed her real name. I then found her on facebook, instagram, and twitter and through those accounts found the other girl's information.
Reverse pic search (like tineye or google image search) can also be a very helpful tool.
I have been lurking and reading with much interest and am jealous of you guys that play the SD game. How is it done with a SO? I would like to get involved but doing a MP or HX girl is a far cry from chasing a SB. How do you married guys get away with it? Please give me some ideas, I so want to give it a try.
Read this http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not
It's like Sugar Daddy 101
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HollywoodGuy
10-27-15, 03:01
Well I did only two M&G's this month so far and they were both kinda meh (as they say on yelp). I spent a lot of time txting with my X this month and once my home is my own I am going to give it another shot. It may be a long shot, I just have no clue. Only hope.
But you can see why. I cant believe she is 22 now. I met her when she was 19. Boy does the time fly by. 5'5" and 105. I have never gone back to an X and have never wanted to until now. But if it doesn't work out I'll survive. My roommate has just made me realize how much I miss having a real GF.
I have talked to so many hotties on SA this month but haven't been able to get any to pull the trigger. And I still refuse to go to $$ a date. At $$ I am sure I would have fucked them all. I really try to just win them over with personality and common sense. I never talk about my house in the hills, my ride, marathon or kinky sex or my package. If they dont want me for my chill attitude and the small carrot of a LTR then oh well. Once they meet me then all that other stuff just sinks the hook deeper as I know they are all on the fence prior to meeting. I know if they like me before they see and experience all that other stuff the chance for success is going to be higher. And a success for me is it lasts for a year or two. I like random pussy, but I also like to have a GF if I can. I have an ATF and she is not my GF but somehow we make it work.
Tomorrow I will go the easy route and see my current BCG "N". She is a straight $ a date including uber and party favors. I will try to get some pics of her lovely lady parts to share online, while on tomorrows date.
HollywoodGuy
10-28-15, 01:05
Tomorrow I will go the easy route and see my current BCG "N". She is a straight $ a date including uber and party favors. I will try to get some pics of her lovely lady parts to share online, while on tomorrows date.As planned I saw my girl "N" today. I think it was our 6th date and definitely our hottest one yet. I told her I wanted to take some pics but I was too busy gettin busy to break the momentum. So next time for sure. Tomorrow I am supposed to spend the day with my X, I hope it goes well. I have a M&G tomorrow night as well with a local hollywood girl that seems TGTBT. But you just never know til you get there.
HeartofaLion
10-28-15, 02:15
Here is my soon to be gone roommate. She is really just here to keep me company because we don't have sex. We have gotten each other off a few times manually. But its really minor and she really is just here because I get lonely with no GF around. She does all the GF stuff except the sex. LOL. And she pays her own way most of the time. But its nice to have someone to go to dinner with, rub my feet and cuddle up to in bed. Plus she keeps me laughing.I can see we both lover ebony girls.
HeartofaLion
10-28-15, 02:16
As planned I saw my girl "N" today. I think it was our 6th date and definitely our hottest one yet. I told her I wanted to take some pics but I was too busy gettin busy to break the momentum. So next time for sure. Tomorrow I am supposed to spend the day with my X, I hope it goes well. I have a M&G tomorrow night as well with a local hollywood girl that seems TGTBT. But you just never know til you get there.Please. Keep us updated.
HeartofaLion
10-28-15, 02:50
Google their pictures, phone # and email address, and everything before the @ sign.I'm sorry my for my lack of research skills but how can I google her pix?
I'm sorry my for my lack of research skills but how can I google her pix?You should be able to add a 'google image search' extension to your browser. Then you can just right click on any photo and select 'Search Image by Google'. There's also a Tineye extension which functions similarly. The old fashioned way is to copy the image url and paste it into google image search (https://www.google.com/imghp).
HeartofaLion
10-29-15, 00:28
You should be able to add a 'google image search' extension to your browser. Then you can just right click on any photo and select 'Search Image by Google'. There's also a Tineye extension which functions similarly. The old fashioned way is to copy the image url and paste it into google image search (https://www.google.com/imghp).Thanks mate.
HollywoodGuy
10-30-15, 04:26
I'm sorry my for my lack of research skills but how can I google her pix?https://images.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl
HeartofaLion
10-30-15, 15:27
https://images.google.com/?gws_rd=sslThank you Mr. Hollywood.
HollywoodGuy
10-30-15, 19:58
Had to ditch my nooner due to just being tired from too little sleep. My M&G girl at 4 is MIA. Thank god for my ATF. She will be here at 8 like clockwork as always for a good 90 minute fuck. I have so many hotties on the edge. It's a little frustrating. This is why I always overbook.
Member #5616
10-31-15, 11:10
Most of you guys use a prepaid credit card for these site like you do with a burner phone for privacy reason? Thank you.
HollywoodGuy
10-31-15, 13:05
Valerie12
18 Los Angeles
Sweetest girl
Hello, as you may know my name is Valerie and I just wanted to tell you a bit about myself and what I am interested in. I'm 16 years old and I'm looking for a man who could spoil me.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb7f90f11/view
First one I have encountered prior to asking for a picture ID. Her message to me above.
I have caught about 6 more after asking.
Valerie12
18 Los Angeles
Sweetest girl
Hello, as you may know my name is Valerie and I just wanted to tell you a bit about myself and what I am interested in. I'm 16 years old and I'm looking for a man who could spoil me.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb7f90f11/view
First one I have encountered prior to asking for a picture ID. Her message to me above.
I have caught about 6 more after asking.I mean, yikes!
Most of you guys use a prepaid credit card for these site like you do with a burner phone for privacy reason? Thank you.Yeah, I use a prepaid Visa and sign up with a fake name. I also have a burner app on my phone.
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