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XJakeRobertsx
02-22-24, 11:49
https://members.seeking.com/member/0240d5e2-a233-4b5c-95f0-84a7da569808

Anyone with a report on her?

UnknownSD
02-22-24, 13:46
She's fine as hell but I'm in OC. LA is too far :(.My current SB lives 2 minutes away from me. Problem is she doesn't want to hang out as much anymore :(. Worried she got a real bfI see. I rarely hear that's a problem. It's usually the SD that doesn't want to hang out as much anymore not the SB LOL. It's easy for an SD to find a new girl. Just keep trying on SA. Last year I had months that I didn't meet any girl I liked but I keep renewing because the next girl can just be right around the corner. Just need to be patient.

UnknownSD
02-22-24, 14:01
Bicoastalbaddie: She's a 22-year-old Korean girl currently studying Art at UCLA. She lives in Westwood and doesn't have a car. She'll need an Uber. It's her first time looking for an SD. She never had an SD or arrangement before. Act quickly if you want to be her first. Her looks are a 6/7 and her body is a 7/8. She has a nice complexion but she has bad teeth. Her teeth are not very straight and many gaps between her teeth. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/431609ed-32f0-4318-8fee-1e6efdf803a5

Bella: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3d88f6b5-5627-4968-8838-523f5bb32ea4

StarryEyes: Possible fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f59bbf9b-2838-4d5d-88d7-6b8266621cc4

FlirtyBeauty: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/be40d70e-eedb-4459-8191-91e9894298b3

SeductiveGambler: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/fffd0ec2-d67c-4f62-a685-a7383bf332c2

LovingGirl: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e5ad6bf0-7e96-449c-b955-bad8fa416c0e

Tylee99: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/97dfe506-8809-46e6-a1f2-7569447e260a

WowU812
02-22-24, 14:46
So, I figured out CMB means Coffee Meets Bagel, and it advertises as a dating app for people looking to get hitched, not hooked up. How in the world does that apply to sugar dating?

And what about Equinox? I am a member, I have actually had a brief arrangement w / a woman who I knew was also a member (at my location) but I didn't disclose that, for my opsec.

There is a girl I see on the treadmill early mornings, she appears to be ripe for a SB and like she can't afford the club. I am tempted to try to exit w / her some day and ask her if she has a 'sponsor' for her expensive membership. LOL.I often stay in Century City, that Equinox is a great place. Great desk girls. Ask them "Do you love nice restaurants" works well for me. I offer dinner, tell them I need some new gym clothes / shoes, get them an outfit as well, dinner and it always ends with sex and someone cool to hang with. Couple hundred in stuff seems better to me than cash, and for whatever reason they don't mind someone 25 years older.

UnknownSD
02-22-24, 14:53
I often stay in Century City, that Equinox is a great place. Great desk girls. Ask them "Do you love nice restaurants" works well for me. I offer dinner, tell them I need some new gym clothes / shoes, get them an outfit as well, dinner and it always ends with sex and someone cool to hang with. Couple hundred in stuff seems better to me than cash, and for whatever reason they don't mind someone 25 years older.You must be pretty good looking and have a nice body.

FarFarAway
02-22-24, 15:35
I often stay in Century City, that Equinox is a great place. Great desk girls. Ask them "Do you love nice restaurants" works well for me. I offer dinner, tell them I need some new gym clothes / shoes, get them an outfit as well, dinner and it always ends with sex and someone cool to hang with. Couple hundred in stuff seems better to me than cash, and for whatever reason they don't mind someone 25 years older.You're a single guy, you must not be worried about your personal info, the staff can obviously learn your identity IRL. For marrieds, estimated to be 40% of the guys on seeking (Anyone hear of a new estimate? You can't really be approaching women in public, especially those who can get your real name.

WowU812
02-23-24, 00:04
You're a single guy, you must not be worried about your personal info, the staff can obviously learn your identity IRL. For marrieds, estimated to be 40% of the guys on seeking (Anyone hear of a new estimate? You can't really be approaching women in public, especially those who can get your real name.Yes I am single. If I see the same girl often I become friendly and see if there is a vibe. Coffee shop, gym, etc. They don't make much money and neither do guys there age, don't be creepy and see what happens.

WowU812
02-23-24, 00:05
You must be pretty good looking and have a nice body.Well, not sure about good looking. I eat well and train daily. I would say I have a great personality and know how to make people interested.

UnknownSD
02-23-24, 11:08
Linda: Eastern European girl in her late 20's or early 30's. Her looks are a 6/7 and her body is a 7. She lives in Glendale and will drive to do an M&G. She's impatient and poor attitude. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b0074cc7-1156-4af8-950c-113c9f2efe54

Rechel: Possibly fake / scammer. Claims she has never been with a guy before and will move to LA in May and will reply to messages then. No other intel.

https://members.seeking.com/member/af8e5bed-814a-4755-9ae9-0ff367a6a904

GorgeousMadame: Fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9c003e98-c414-481c-853c-1c6fd53a1dd0

Adelinexo: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/96075782-2ba6-4c20-aa3f-f209d4298dad

InnocentQueen: Fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/623b1c5e-31e5-4602-a5e0-3660a03bdd3a

RanManCan
02-23-24, 13:01
My 1 yr bi-SB agreed to open a separate SA account and fish for threesomes. She will be primarily running the new account (I'll be able to see).

Your tips, advice, or thoughts are appreciated.

FarFarAway
02-23-24, 15:26
My 1 yr bi-SB agreed to open a separate SA account and fish for threesomes. She will be primarily running the new account (I'll be able to see).

Your tips, advice, or thoughts are appreciated.A past dean on threads like these, I think in Richmond, posted his experience doing something very similar. Perhaps F Scott. They got lots and lots of messages, but were never able to close the deal w / anyone. You may get a lot of opportunity, I hope you can close some deals. Lucky dog.

RanManCan
02-23-24, 18:58
A past dean on threads like these, I think in Richmond, posted his experience doing something very similar. Perhaps F Scott. They got lots and lots of messages, but were never able to close the deal w / anyone. You may get a lot of opportunity, I hope you can close some deals. Lucky dog.I found it, he hasn't been active in over a year, but here it is.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3437101&viewfull=1#post3437101.

His was a touch different in that I already have 1, just looking for others. . .

I've had 3 somes before, but having a girl run a profile to catch more fish is what I'm a bit worried about, we'll see.

RanManCan
02-24-24, 01:21
Itsblaireeeeeee / destiny herzog / destinyherzog@IG wants $1,000 just for dinner, no dessert.

Any takers ?

https://members.seeking.com/member/77e9dcf4-130b-4b9c-bb98-dac3d1d04048

https://www.instagram.com/destinyherzog/

Gidden Lade
02-24-24, 09:02
I've had 3 somes before, but having a girl run a profile to catch more fish is what I'm a bit worried about, we'll see.I've heard that it's easier to get a 3 some if you already have a girl who's onboard with the idea & if she does the selection of the 3rd. Supposedly this makes both girls more comfortable with the initial get together. Then, of course, it's up to you to take it to the end zone. Good luck brother.

Chupacabra
02-24-24, 15:22
I've heard that it's easier to get a 3 some if you already have a girl who's onboard with the idea & if she does the selection of the 3rd. Supposedly this makes both girls more comfortable with the initial get together. Then, of course, it's up to you to take it to the end zone. Good luck brother.It's always better to have the chick do it, unless you're extremely smooth or have a giant bag of coke in your pocket (preferably both). I casually dated a bisexual chick once and she was the best wingman ever. They can get away with shit that men can't. Let her drive the threesome.

Chupacabra
02-24-24, 15:25
Itsblaireeeeeee / destiny herzog / destinyherzog@IG wants $1,000 just for dinner, no dessert.

Any takers ?

https://members.seeking.com/member/77e9dcf4-130b-4b9c-bb98-dac3d1d04048

https://www.instagram.com/destinyherzog/LMAO. Is that a tranny? Who is paying $1 k to sit and look at that for an hour across a dinner table. Come on. I want to start strangling simps, I can't take it any more. LOL.

FarFarAway
02-24-24, 18:51
LMAO. Is that a tranny? Who is paying $1 k to sit and look at that for an hour across a dinner table. Come on. I want to start strangling simps, I can't take it any more. LOL.Just because she is asking for it doesn't mean she gets it. I also don't find her to be all taht.

However, HG has a SB who found a guy who would give her a lot of dough for doing basically nothing.

StevenWalker
02-24-24, 23:08
Still really bummed about Hannah. WHoever got her is a lucky guy.

TooShay
02-24-24, 23:11
https://members.seeking.com/member/f895ccb3-faa0-4b38-bdec-582a2d503728

Here's an Asian for you guys that's ready to go. Just use your skill to talk to her as she's negotiable.

UnknownSD
02-25-24, 03:49
https://members.seeking.com/member/f895ccb3-faa0-4b38-bdec-582a2d503728

Here's an Asian for you guys that's ready to go. Just use your skill to talk to her as she's negotiable.I believe I have reviewed her before. Anyway, she has been on SA for way too long and has way too many profiles. She's always looking for fresh new SDs. Her looks are a 5. She has awful teeth and a poor complexion. Not a pretty scene to look at. I wouldn't even bang her if she was free. Have fun guys!

UnknownSD
02-25-24, 12:42
https://members.seeking.com/member/f895ccb3-faa0-4b38-bdec-582a2d503728

Here's an Asian for you guys that's ready to go. Just use your skill to talk to her as she's negotiable.I believe I have reviewed her before. Anyway, she has been on SA for way too long and has way too many profiles. She's always looking for fresh new SDs. Her looks are a 5. She has awful teeth and a poor complexion. Not a pretty scene to look at. I wouldn't even bang her if she was free. Have fun guys!

UnknownSD
02-25-24, 14:29
Still really bummed about Hannah. WHoever got her is a lucky guy.Did you try to offer her 600 for anal?

HollywoodGuy
02-25-24, 18:16
Just because she is asking for it doesn't mean she gets it. I also don't find her to be all taht.

However, HG has a SB who found a guy who would give her a lot of dough for doing basically nothing.My GF has been rinsing guys from the day I met her. When she was a dancer she could usually get about 2k in dinner date money before they threw in the towel and sometimes more.

StevenWalker
02-25-24, 18:25
Did you try to offer her 600 for anal?She offered me that and I said yes and then she took down her account. I wanted to spank her fartlocker.=(.

BobLove
02-25-24, 18:37
I believe I have reviewed her before. Anyway, she has been on SA for way too long and has way too many profiles. She's always looking for fresh new SDs. Her looks are a 5. She has awful teeth and a poor complexion. Not a pretty scene to look at. I wouldn't even bang her if she was free. Have fun guys!How much PPM?

ChefSolo
02-25-24, 19:57
I believe I have reviewed her before. Anyway, she has been on SA for way too long and has way too many profiles. She's always looking for fresh new SDs. Her looks are a 5. She has awful teeth and a poor complexion. Not a pretty scene to look at. I wouldn't even bang her if she was free. Have fun guys!Before I saw this post, I offered her 500 and she sent me a laughing GIF. If what you're saying is true, I'm glad I dodged a bullet and wow what a delusional slob.

UnknownSD
02-25-24, 20:27
She offered me that and I said yes and then she took down her account. I wanted to spank her fartlocker.=(.Maybe she's fake.

UnknownSD
02-25-24, 23:08
Before I saw this post, I offered her 500 and she sent me a laughing GIF. If what you're saying is true, I'm glad I dodged a bullet and wow what a delusional slob.Yeah, you dodged one. Saved you 500 LOL. She does free M&G for coffee. If you don't believe it's true, then you can meet her for coffee and find out.

UnknownSD
02-26-24, 12:10
True_hottie_: Blonde girl in her late 20's. She's not new to SA. She's been on SA for many years now with different profiles. She's been on and off. She lives in WLA. Her looks are a 6/7 and her body is a 6/7. She has a more athletic body than slim on her profile. Her allowance is negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/06a7e879-d6e4-4170-9c2a-c272a523313d

Stolper
02-26-24, 14:48
Before I saw this post, I offered her 500 and she sent me a laughing GIF. If what you're saying is true, I'm glad I dodged a bullet and wow what a delusional slob.Not sure I would trust Unknown's review here. Search Cherrysia on here. It's the same person. She's actually quite hot (I would say 8-9) and a great time in the bedroom. But she's run by her pimp bf and there have been blackmail issues. I don't know what Unknown's talking about here. See at your own risk, but sex and attractiveness is not her problem.

DavidTheSancho
02-26-24, 15:52
So I went back a couple pages and didn't see anything but maybe I missed it. Is nobody annoyed with this new interface on SA. It's making searches impossible on mobile. Also with it there seems to be an influx of fake profiles. I really don't want to have to use a desktop to browse SA, this interface might kill it for me.

UnknownSD
02-26-24, 18:11
Not sure I would trust Unknown's review here. Search Cherrysia on here. It's the same person. She's actually quite hot (I would say 8-9) and a great time in the bedroom. But she's run by her pimp bf and there have been blackmail issues. I don't know what Unknown's talking about here. See at your own risk, but sex and attractiveness is not her problem.ChefSolo, just do a M&G with her and see for yourself.

UnknownSD
02-26-24, 18:31
Blondevalleybabe: She's back on SA again after a few years. She was first on SA when she was 22 years old. Now she's 25. She lives near Glendale. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 7. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c791ee36-42f4-4b15-b63d-12c72768fc3e

Minnie: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1eb87be5-ee72-4949-ac6b-fc05af6e0652

Lovergirl123: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/04401757-9491-4df4-9740-9eb86472e311

ClassyPunk: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/263fc956-87e4-4447-8f6d-1fbaffc6e199

UnknownSD
02-26-24, 19:21
So I went back a couple pages and didn't see anything but maybe I missed it. Is nobody annoyed with this new interface on SA. It's making searches impossible on mobile. Also with it there seems to be an influx of fake profiles. I really don't want to have to use a desktop to browse SA, this interface might kill it for me.I'm still on the old interface. Yes, I don't like the new interface either. Very difficult to use. They already reverted to the old interface twice.

HollywoodGuy
02-26-24, 21:31
I've seen a lot of reviews lately about girls looks and rates. Any feedback on actual performance would be appreciated as well.

Biggie2001
02-26-24, 22:08
Been chatting with this lady for a few days. She goes by "Lisa. " Pics are legit, pretty face and toned body. Shocker; she's pricey and only does a traditional (. 2) or sensual massage (. 4). Curious if anyone has seen her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/306bc49d-1329-48fa-81cf-05c1cd6ebdf6

Biggie2001
02-26-24, 22:42
Anyone seen this lady from SA? She's older but nice body and face. Was granted access to private photos. I would rate both 7/10. Only thing is, she only does massage (traditional or sensual) and is a bit pricey. Goes by the name of "Lisa".

https://members.seeking.com/member/306bc49d-1329-48fa-81cf-05c1cd6ebdf6

JackMiles
02-26-24, 23:15
Blondevalleybabe: She's back on SA again after a few years. She was first on SA when she was 22 years old. Now she's 25. She lives near Glendale. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 7. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c791ee36-42f4-4b15-b63d-12c72768fc3e

Minnie: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1eb87be5-ee72-4949-ac6b-fc05af6e0652

Lovergirl123: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/04401757-9491-4df4-9740-9eb86472e311

ClassyPunk: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/263fc956-87e4-4447-8f6d-1fbaffc6e199I appreciate the Intel for sure. Just a question. On the profiles in which you give detailed info (enough so that you're rating their looks and body), are you actually meeting these girls and giving them a test drive, or are these just opinions on the photos you've seen on their profiles?

ChefSolo
02-27-24, 10:36
ChefSolo, just do a M&G with her and see for yourself.I offered her 500 and she laughed.

UnknownSD
02-27-24, 10:46
How much PPM?Back then, I believe she was asking for 400-500 ppm.

UnknownSD
02-27-24, 11:32
I offered her 500 and she laughed.It's not hard to ask her out for a M&G. She's easy.

UnknownSD
02-27-24, 12:59
BeautifulBlessing: She's back again on SA. I don't think she's 24. She was 24 years ago LOL. I believe she's in her late 20's or early 30's now. She lives near North Hollywood. She has lots of freckles on her face. Also, she has a wart on her lips, possible herpes and / or HPV. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 7. She has nice natural DD breasts. She's selective about who she meets. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1ce419fc-59e7-4ca8-b936-3a4cbce7b52e

MsMelissa: She's the girl in the Blondie Melissa thread. She's asking for $150 for a M&G for coffee or dinner. She guarantees it's her in the pics she sends or you don't have to pay for the M&G. The photo she sent over text is the same headshot on the Blondie Melissa thread. Also, she will only discuss the intimacy part after meeting up. She says she's very easygoing and goes along with everything. From her pics, she looks like an 8. Anybody want to give her a shot? To me, it seems like she's just going to meet you for 5 minutes to pick up the cash and go LOL.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?36353-Blondie-Melissa

https://members.seeking.com/member/af8532d0-f9d9-453a-9857-c0d584fc2011

Neeka: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/fc9fffa7-3292-457c-b45f-78a35d62d88d

HoneyBun: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/889bf69a-60af-47ba-975d-28b5337597f1

XJakeRobertsx
02-28-24, 08:15
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UnknownSD
02-28-24, 13:19
Urmom_stellaXxx: She's been on SA for many years now and she just became active again on SA. She just lost her job and looking for extra income now. She lives near Hollywood. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 7. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/430ee942-4192-41fd-add5-ed1338177360

LAbaby: She's been on SA for many years now since 2018 or earlier. She had over 4 different profiles already. From her profile photos, she looks like a 6/7. She will only meet if you're DTF. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0dddf23d-7dda-4661-8f6e-17b1d219ce4a

Gypsygirl: Mixed girl in her mid-20's. She lives near Long Beach. From her pics, she looks like a 6. She will do a video call first. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/73337ab5-a2f9-4c17-89ee-17707b21cd81

Honeybee415: White girl in her late 20's or early 30's. She looks mixed to me. From her profile pics, she looks like a 7. She's looking for $1200 ppm and will only meet if you're DTF. Allowance is non-negotiable. She doesn't do video calls or M&G.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ff9ac2ba-49c4-4bf5-b461-120c1527d0be

ElegantPrincess: Fake / Scammer. Selling pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6d2046b4-a02c-4106-a24f-79925b541fbb

SensualBae: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/55d936ef-e6ec-4939-bf04-d11768f1d7db

Frances: Fake / Scammer. Probably love.

https://members.seeking.com/member/50606d2b-5fca-4d5d-bdab-03b46be7b539

Dodger girl: Fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cf10a083-01cc-4e3b-ad25-f2ee930b18c4

UnknownSD
02-28-24, 13:26
Here's the current promo code to get 33% off your subscription on SA. 33% is the highest discount offered on SA that I've seen. Not sure if they ever went 50% off or more.

Promo Code: VWO33 COM.

MidnightDabber
02-28-24, 21:37
I have been with all types but one of my favorites is the regular "vanilla" asian girls. Like a 7-8/10 college type. A lot of the asians and the women in general have been less "normal" and more pros and UTR. There are some because I have seen and met with them but it was a few years ago. Whats your guys experience like? Are they gone for good? LOL. There are still real nonpro girls on the site but you need to scoop them up fast.

UnknownSD
02-29-24, 01:16
I have been with all types but one of my favorites is the regular "vanilla" asian girls. Like a 7-8/10 college type. A lot of the asians and the women in general have been less "normal" and more pros and UTR. There are some because I have seen and met with them but it was a few years ago. Whats your guys experience like? Are they gone for good? LOL. There are still real nonpro girls on the site but you need to scoop them up fast.There was one yesterday. She's already taken and off the site. You have to act fast LOL.

JollyJohnRoger
02-29-24, 10:52
https://members.seeking.com/member/f895ccb3-faa0-4b38-bdec-582a2d503728

Here's an Asian for you guys that's ready to go. Just use your skill to talk to her as she's negotiable.This is Marie in Monrovia.

Search CherrySia. She has a pimp named Randy, and she records sessions. Multiple SDs have been approached by him for blackmail / extortion.

The sex is amazing, and she is a clean freak, but seriously weird dynamic with her pimp / BF / booker who is the one answering texts.

She is a mix of Latina and Japanese, actual age 29, but looks 22 or so.

Murrican
02-29-24, 22:02
Search CherrySia. She has a pimp named Randy, and she records sessions. Multiple SDs have been approached by him for blackmail / extortion.
.That right there is my biggest fear.

Related note: I used to occasionally film dates with a spy cam built into a wall outlet. Keepsakes of my seeking adventures. Don't judge. One girl saw me fiddling with it and I could tell she looked perplexed. Later on after she left I realized she took it. Didn't announce it, just took it. Actually had the audacity to message me later asking how things are, I know to see if I noticed. I never said anything. Just said hi and great to have spent time with her.

To be fair I'd never blackmail someone. It was just for me later to watch and enjoy.

UnknownSD
03-01-24, 10:58
This is Marie in Monrovia.

Search CherrySia. She has a pimp named Randy, and she records sessions. Multiple SDs have been approached by him for blackmail / extortion.

The sex is amazing, and she is a clean freak, but seriously weird dynamic with her pimp / BF / booker who is the one answering texts.

She is a mix of Latina and Japanese, actual age 29, but looks 22 or so.Just curious, how does she record the sessions? Does she use her smartphone or hidden camera? And where can she hide her hidden camera that you can't see? It's very hard for an SB to secretly record it without you knowing. Also, they have to place it at the right angle in a clear line of sight. The only way is if she is doing an incall and she has everything set up already at her place beforehand. That's why I never do an incall to an SB's place or her hotel room. If she's going to your hotel room or meeting at an SD's place, it is very difficult to set up instantly. The only place possible where she can hide it is in her purse or her clothes but still, it is hard to set up last minute.

UnknownSD
03-01-24, 11:51
Tiffslieve: She's a 19-year-old Chinese girl. This is her first time on SA and she never had an SD before this. She has found her first SD and has already deleted her profile. Her looks are an 8 and her body is an 8. There's no link to her profile since it's already deleted. And yes, she's real. You have to act fast to be the first. They come and go quickly.

DivineLuv23: She's back active on SA. She's been on SA since 2018 or earlier. She had previous profiles before. She used to have black hair but now changed to a dirty blonde color. This is probably her 3rd or 4th profile. She's a dance teacher and lives near Calabasas. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 8. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7044e955-fa51-4713-95fb-274885742712

MysticalFan: Don't know if she's real or not. In her first reply message, she's asking for a 100 k+ monthly allowance. Yes, you didn't read that wrong. She's asking for $100,000. 00 per month. This is the highest number I've seen on SA thus far.

https://members.seeking.com/member/110f3f74-9ec6-436c-b507-eae25909e510

Casslynn: Fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d069c35a-85dd-4fca-9847-0b1cceb9138f

Eisa: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e25a4174-f928-4fc1-a249-f4118dd30f15

Prettygirlcarleigh: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8278676d-b3a5-4b72-9dfc-c8c8f5f381ce

Brittany: Fake / scammer. Asking for money upfront. Old scam.

https://members.seeking.com/member/16050e2b-ccd1-4dbe-b8c2-166e8916546d

EnchantingSiren: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0a49bdbc-2c2c-4506-bff1-9ab968de3419

Swasi: Fake / Scammer. Ask you to join SUGAR. LOVE is changed to SUGAR. Same scammers.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2d2b9c15-89ca-4b62-bdb1-145d6e052650

UnknownSD
03-01-24, 14:29
She's a fake / scammer. She claims she's financially independent and doesn't need financial support and not looking for an arrangement but looking for true love and a serious long-term relationship. How many times have I heard this? Too many times. This group of scammers is usually located in the South East Asia region. They will try to get you to wire money to open a crypto or forex account with a bogus trading company that you never heard of.

Sipping
03-01-24, 15:10
I've seen a lot of reviews lately about girls looks and rates. Any feedback on actual performance would be appreciated as well.I'd like to echo this request. For me, performance is way more important than looks. Excellent performance can make up for a lot.

Here are reviews of some Asian girls I've seen over the past year or so; they're all active on Seeking. My taste is towards the tall and *very* slender (like count the ribs slender), so when I describe a girl's body as average of full figured, take it in that context. Also, my standards of performance include good kissing and BBBJ. I don't care much about BBFS.

Miley Osaka: Very tiny Korean-American girl, early 20's. Probably like 5', 90 lbs, maybe even a little smaller. Clean and put-together, a little shy. Good kisser, but everything was covered. Service was rushed, and felt like a service. I think she was hoping for a few pumps and then she'd be out of there. She was charging 500 for a M&G or 750 for straight to the bedroom. Not sure what her thinking is there; obviously I took option 2.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cbbada91-8d89-47b3-a5b6-627f88eea3ca

Also, I was browsing Tryst the other day, and it looks like she's recently gone pro. She still seems quite inexperienced though:

https://tryst.link/escort/mileyosaka

Venus: Chinese-American girl, early 20's, exactly my type: tall, slender and tight, lots of tattoos. Gorgeous and she knows it. Well educated and well spoken. All bare. Very good in bed, extraordinarily good BJs. Pricing variable, but you will likely need to get to know her before you can start talking details. I think her profile makes clear that she wants some time and effort put into the process; I can verify that is the case. Completely a non-pro experience.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8ab0e24a-5a00-4dc1-a0ea-a6a588bbad31

PrincessPeachy: A more full-figured Chinese-American girl, mid-20's, with adorable little titties. Educated, smart, confident, experienced, straightforward. A pleasure to arrange with and be around; fee negotiable (probably starting at 700 though). A hurricane in bed. Voracious and up for anything (except bare FS). Leans towards the kinky / submissive side and is very focused on pleasing. Also nothing like a pro; she seems legit into it. Will want a M&G (unpaid). I get the sense that she's selective.

https://members.seeking.com/member/88e07563-6aee-47dd-af97-1c7d5683e406

Luckygirl25: Another more full-figured Asian-American; similar in a lot of respects to PrincessPeachy above. Also mid-20's. Well-educated, well-spoken, a non-pro but she knows what she wants on Seeking and is not fucking around. Negotiable during a M&G, but I don't think you'll get away for less than 800. She's an unstoppable sex machine. One of the few girls I've been with who could easily outlast me. I felt like I was going to be devoured whole (in a good way).

https://members.seeking.com/member/ca446bfa-e3c1-4789-b669-b2abbf804a91

UnknownSD
03-01-24, 15:30
I'd like to echo this request. For me, performance is way more important than looks. Excellent performance can make up for a lot.

Here are reviews of some Asian girls I've seen over the past year or so; they're all active on Seeking. My taste is towards the tall and *very* slender (like count the ribs slender), so when I describe a girl's body as average of full figured, take it in that context. Also, my standards of performance include good kissing and BBBJ. I don't care much about BBFS.

Miley Osaka: Very tiny Korean-American girl, early 20's. Probably like 5', 90 lbs, maybe even a little smaller. Clean and put-together, a little shy. Good kisser, but everything was covered. Service was rushed, and felt like a service. I think she was hoping for a few pumps and then she'd be out of there. She was charging 500 for a M&G or 750 for straight to the bedroom. Not sure what her thinking is there; obviously I took option 2.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cbbada91-8d89-47b3-a5b6-627f88eea3ca

Also, I was browsing Tryst the other day, and it looks like she's recently gone pro. She still seems quite inexperienced though:.Thanks for sharing! The only one I contacted on your list is Miley Osaka but she never replied me. The rest didn't make my cut LOL.

FarFarAway
03-01-24, 16:35
OK, all of you guys who complain about GPS and 'simps' fucking up the SB market, here is your target. Mr. Sipping is clearly way over what you want to pay SBs. An opportunity to persuade him he is not serving your goals. Sounds like he is having a good time though, too.

Personally, I have paid 600, twice in the past year, to a bona fide white 19 year old coed. Sexy and seductive as hell. My standard is 400, and I try to get girls on allowance for 3 meets per month at 1000 / mo. I just M&G a law student / MILF yesterday, she is quite sub, and she readily agreed to whatever I wanted. If she is the same in bed, I can see converting her to an affair, she seems that needy.

FarFarAway
03-01-24, 16:37
Sometimes, they realize it in retrospect, and admit the error of their ways. This text showed up today from an unknown number.

"I know we kinda left on weird terms. I apologize for that. I guess I wanted more affection. I would have to say I do miss you eating me out."

When they come knocking, obviously the price is dropping. I did figure out who it was, a pretty blond spinner.

FullyHedged
03-01-24, 16:39
I'd like to echo this request. For me, performance is way more important than looks. Excellent performance can make up for a lot.

Here are reviews of some Asian girls I've seen over the past year or so; they're all active on Seeking. My taste is towards the tall and *very* slender (like count the ribs slender), so when I describe a girl's body as average of full figured, take it in that context. Also, my standards of performance include good kissing and BBBJ. I don't care much about BBFS.Thanks for the intel Sipping. Are these PPM meetups for just an hour or is the figure quoted for a somewhat non-clock watching experience?

MidnightDabber
03-01-24, 21:54
Based on the advice from here I try to get to the point very quick and they often ask me what I would be willing to pay bascially. I am a bit worried about offering too low because of being reported and how annoying it is to get back on. Has anyone ever faced this? I want to offer 400, though I often go for 450 or 500 since I don't want to be reported on SA or anything. What is your guys experience?

Sipping
03-01-24, 23:31
OK, all of you guys who complain about GPS and 'simps' fucking up the SB market, here is your target. Mr. Sipping is clearly way over what you want to pay SBs. An opportunity to persuade him he is not serving your goals. Sounds like he is having a good time though, too.Indeed. I doubt nothing you say, but I can only speak to my own experiences. I've been working Seeking for about three years, and I haven't found legit good sex for less than 600. I've certainly tried, but every girl I've had at 400 has been a disappointment. Maybe we have different demographics, or you have better game, or I'm not working hard enough. 6-800 seem to be my sweet spot for finding girls who really want to fuck.


Are these PPM meetups for just an hour or is the figure quoted for a somewhat non-clock watching experience?If you're willing to pay by the hour, just get an escort. There should NEVER be a clock with an SB.

Sipping
03-01-24, 23:50
Thanks for sharing! The only one I contacted on your list is Miley Osaka but she never replied me. The rest didn't make my cut LOL.Ping her again. She's a bit of a flake. It took me 3 tries.

UnknownSD
03-02-24, 00:10
Based on the advice from here I try to get to the point very quick and they often ask me what I would be willing to pay bascially. I am a bit worried about offering too low because of being reported and how annoying it is to get back on. Has anyone ever faced this? I want to offer 400, though I often go for 450 or 500 since I don't want to be reported on SA or anything. What is your guys experience?They can't report you because you offered too low but they can certainly block / ignore you. That's the risk of making low offers that you'll have to accept. Once they turn you down, your chances are basically zero and there's no turning back. You'll just have to move on to the next girl.

UnknownSD
03-02-24, 00:18
Indeed. I doubt nothing you say, but I can only speak to my own experiences. I've been working Seeking for about three years, and I haven't found legit good sex for less than 600. I've certainly tried, but every girl I've had at 400 has been a disappointment. Maybe we have different demographics, or you have better game, or I'm not working hard enough. 6-800 seem to be my sweet spot for finding girls who really want to fuck.

If you're willing to pay by the hour, just get an escort. There should NEVER be a clock with an SB.You're right on the mark. Don't listen to fake / salt daddies. They play a different game and their target SBs are clearly different.

FarFarAway
03-02-24, 01:03
Indeed. I doubt nothing you say, but I can only speak to my own experiences. I've been working Seeking for about three years, and I haven't found legit good sex for less than 600. I've certainly tried, but every girl I've had at 400 has been a disappointment. Maybe we have different demographics, or you have better game, or I'm not working hard enough. 6-800 seem to be my sweet spot for finding girls who really want to fuck.

If you're willing to pay by the hour, just get an escort. There should NEVER be a clock with an SB.I do enjoy the thrill of the hunt, and I am not so horny anymore, now that I am past retirement age, so if I fail it is no big deal. I still can bang teenagers though. So it does take a lot of work to get what I am into. I am limited in funds because of the warden. I have never ever seen a correlation between $ and quality of skills, except in perhaps an inverse way. That is, a girl really wants to fuck me and takes less than her usual because of it.

This is like the old joke. Guy asks a girl in a bar if she would sleep w / him for a million bucks. She says she guesses she would. He then asks if she would sleep with him for 50 - she replies 'what sort of a girl do you think I am? - his snappy comeback - 'we've already established that, now we're just haggling price.'

I only ever talk $ to a POT face to face. If you negotiate online, you'll get her price as if you are the worst person she'll ever sleep with. It takes a lot of work to get a girl to do a public platonic M&G, for free.

Vodka Tonic
03-02-24, 02:47
Thanks for sharing! The only one I contacted on your list is Miley Osaka but she never replied me. The rest didn't make my cut LOL.That's funny because all I did was view her profile just now and she instantly messages me "no strings attached?" LOL. I guess she must've been online at the time and was looking for a quick score. I'm not replying because I'm not looking for a pro. Already got a regular arrangement with a pro whose girlfriend experience is so good that it feels like a SB relationship except that she does charge by the hour unfortunately.

Murrican
03-02-24, 10:56
Sometimes, they realize it in retrospect, and admit the error of their ways. This text showed up today from an unknown number.

"I know we kinda left on weird terms. I apologize for that. I guess I wanted more affection. I would have to say I do miss you eating me out."

When they come knocking, obviously the price is dropping. I did figure out who it was, a pretty blond spinner.What an incredible text to get.

HollywoodGuy
03-02-24, 12:01
Based on the advice from here I try to get to the point very quick and they often ask me what I would be willing to pay bascially. I am a bit worried about offering too low because of being reported and how annoying it is to get back on. Has anyone ever faced this? I want to offer 400, though I often go for 450 or 500 since I don't want to be reported on SA or anything. What is your guys experience?My standard come on to break that ice:

Blah, blah, blah. So let me ask you. Are you just looking for the highest offer? (because if you are, that wouldn't be me).

I am sure you get offers of (whatever) per date, and you may need that much just to tolerate the kind of guys that are offering it. But if you're willing to take less to be with a chill guy you can actually vibe with, then I might be the one for you.

JackMiles
03-02-24, 13:45
My standard come on to break that ice:

Blah, blah, blah. So let me ask you. Are you just looking for the highest offer? (because if you are, that wouldn't be me).

I am sure you get offers of (whatever) per date, and you may need that much just to tolerate the kind of guys that are offering it. But if you're willing to take less to be with a chill guy you can actually vibe with, then I might be the one for you.HG is slick with the rizz! That's why we love him here!

UnknownSD
03-02-24, 15:26
That's funny because all I did was view her profile just now and she instantly messages me "no strings attached?" LOL. I guess she must've been online at the time and was looking for a quick score. I'm not replying because I'm not looking for a pro. Already got a regular arrangement with a pro whose girlfriend experience is so good that it feels like a SB relationship except that she does charge by the hour unfortunately.No worries. I have plenty of options. As you can see, not all girls reply to my messages LOL. Just curious, how much are you paying your current pro per hour? Did you book her from an agency or find her on another platform like Tryst?

UnknownSD
03-02-24, 15:28
Ping her again. She's a bit of a flake. It took me 3 tries.Haha. It's OK. I've plenty of options. Thanks!

Vodka Tonic
03-03-24, 01:37
No worries. I have plenty of options. As you can see, not all girls reply to my messages LOL. Just curious, how much are you paying your current pro per hour? Did you book her from an agency or find her on another platform like Tryst?$350/ hr. Found her on HX where she uses a booker. She's low volume for an HX girl. Typically works about six hours a day, 4-5 days a month. I got her personal cell # and started seeing her on days when she's otherwise not working. I usually end up spending two hours at a time with her, a few times a month.

CuriousVaMan
03-03-24, 02:43
I recently made a lowball offer to an SB who 3 of my fellow Northern Virginia SDs transacted at $500 within the last year. She expressed outrage that I proposed $400, when she required $700. After failing to convince her to be more reasonable, we went our separate ways. Because she didn't block me, I immediately used that nifty "Delete Conversation" button on Seeking to reset our convo back to nothingness. I'll retry hooking her in a month or two from a new burner number. By then, she will have forgotten the failed transaction.


They can't report you because you offered too low but they can certainly block / ignore you. That's the risk of making low offers that you'll have to accept. Once they turn you down, your chances are basically zero and there's no turning back. You'll just have to move on to the next girl.

UnknownSD
03-03-24, 11:49
I recently made a lowball offer to an SB who 3 of my fellow Northern Virginia SDs transacted at $500 within the last year. She expressed outrage that I proposed $400, when she required $700. After failing to convince her to be more reasonable, we went our separate ways. Because she didn't block me, I immediately used that nifty "Delete Conversation" button on Seeking to reset our convo back to nothingness. I'll retry hooking her in a month or two from a new burner number. By then, she will have forgotten the failed transaction.Do you know that when you Delete the conversation on SA you only delete the chat on your side? It doesn't delete the conversation on both sides. It's not like Telegram where you can delete both sides. However, after 6 months, SA automatically deletes inactive chats so you'll have to wait for 6 months.

My friend is a veteran SD on SA. This is his strategy. He has two SA accounts. He uses one to initially see how low the SBs are willing to go. Then he uses his real account to make the real offer. The money he saved is more than the cost of two SA accounts. He also uses the second account to check if his SBs are contacting other SDs. It's pretty useful to have two accounts on SA.

UnknownSD
03-03-24, 12:12
$350/ hr. Found her on HX where she uses a booker. She's low volume for an HX girl. Typically works about six hours a day, 4-5 days a month. I got her personal cell # and started seeing her on days when she's otherwise not working. I usually end up spending two hours at a time with her, a few times a month.I see. That's not bad at all. Cheaper than some ppm. Honestly, 1 hour is more than sufficient.

Drken
03-03-24, 12:36
$350/ hr. Found her on HX where she uses a booker. She's low volume for an HX girl. Typically works about six hours a day, 4-5 days a month. I got her personal cell # and started seeing her on days when she's otherwise not working. I usually end up spending two hours at a time with her, a few times a month.What's her handle on Hx?

FarFarAway
03-03-24, 13:45
I recently made a lowball offer to an SB who 3 of my fellow Northern Virginia SDs transacted at $500 within the last year. She expressed outrage that I proposed $400, when she required $700. After failing to convince her to be more reasonable, we went our separate ways. Because she didn't block me, I immediately used that nifty "Delete Conversation" button on Seeking to reset our convo back to nothingness. I'll retry hooking her in a month or two from a new burner number. By then, she will have forgotten the failed transaction.I am not sure that is going to work. It may delete the convo on your profile, but I am not sure it does so on her end.

I see profiles that I have messaged in the past, w / no responses, and I gave up. But the girl comes back on. I will ask her if she can see our old messages, she'll say no. So, I send her them again, just by copy and paste. It fills her in on where we were earlier. I don't have any problem doing this, I have some initial things I say to most girls on the site.

However, this shows that they can delete my messages to them, but it doesn't deleted them on my account.

CouldntBeMe
03-03-24, 17:28
I recently made a lowball offer to an SB who 3 of my fellow Northern Virginia SDs transacted at $500 within the last year. She expressed outrage that I proposed $400, when she required $700. After failing to convince her to be more reasonable, we went our separate ways. Because she didn't block me, I immediately used that nifty "Delete Conversation" button on Seeking to reset our convo back to nothingness. I'll retry hooking her in a month or two from a new burner number. By then, she will have forgotten the failed transaction.I delete conversations all the time but if I want to start up again I just use the Android app, all I have to do is send a message and then refresh the conversation so the previous Exchange comes back. If they deleted the convo and don't refresh it in-app they won't see previous messages, but if you reply and they didn't delete it'll be the same thread, just you looking like George Costanza did the day after he quit Kruger Industrial Smoothing (KISMET) then showed up the next day like nothing happened. You wouldn't happen to be short fat bald and living with your parents would you?

DropNir
03-03-24, 18:30
That's funny because all I did was view her profile just now and she instantly messages me "no strings attached?" LOL. I guess she must've been online at the time and was looking for a quick score. I'm not replying because I'm not looking for a pro. Already got a regular arrangement with a pro whose girlfriend experience is so good that it feels like a SB relationship except that she does charge by the hour unfortunately.I messaged Miley last night at around 1 am and she asked where I lived and if I wanted her to come over. She cut off the conversation when I asked if I could cum inside her.

RanManCan
03-03-24, 22:22
I am not sure that is going to work. It may delete the convo on your profile, but I am not sure it does so on her end.

I see profiles that I have messaged in the past, w / no responses, and I gave up. But the girl comes back on. I will ask her if she can see our old messages, she'll say no. So, I send her them again, just by copy and paste. It fills her in on where we were earlier. I don't have any problem doing this, I have some initial things I say to most girls on the site.

However, this shows that they can delete my messages to them, but it doesn't deleted them on my account.Seeking customer support verified that it does NOT delete the copy the other party sees. I had an issue 2 years ago where after messaging I realized it was an SB I was already seeing, wanted to delete before she saw, but no luck. . . Kept hitting for another year.

CuriousVaMan
03-04-24, 00:41
A 6 month wait time. OK, didn't know that.

I too have run 2 accounts simultaneously, getting info from interactions on the first account, then tailoring the real approach on the second account.

Btw, thanks guys. I'm always learning from those more experienced!


Do you know that when you Delete the conversation on SA you only delete the chat on your side? It doesn't delete the conversation on both sides. It's not like Telegram where you can delete both sides. However, after 6 months, SA automatically deletes inactive chats so you'll have to wait for 6 months.

My friend is a veteran SD on SA. This is his strategy. He has two SA accounts. He uses one to initially see how low the SBs are willing to go. Then he uses his real account to make the real offer. The money he saved is more than the cost of two SA accounts. He also uses the second account to check if his SBs are contacting other SDs. It's pretty useful to have two accounts on SA.

Murrican
03-04-24, 10:16
A 6 month wait time. OK, didn't know that.

I too have run 2 accounts simultaneously, getting info from interactions on the first account, then tailoring the real approach on the second account.

Btw, thanks guys. I'm always learning from those more experienced!How did you pull that off? There are so many stories of people being banned off seeking and cannot even get back on with a new account due to digits fingerprints or something like that, let alone able to have 2 concurrent accounts. It's smart.

UnknownSD
03-04-24, 11:13
How did you pull that off? There are so many stories of people being banned off seeking and cannot even get back on with a new account due to digits fingerprints or something like that, let alone able to have 2 concurrent accounts. It's smart.It's not hard to get back on SA even after you're banned. Let me explain the details and methods in another post. I guess a lot of members are having trouble with this.

FarFarAway
03-04-24, 11:24
How did you pull that off? There are so many stories of people being banned off seeking and cannot even get back on with a new account due to digits fingerprints or something like that, let alone able to have 2 concurrent accounts. It's smart.I typically don't run both simultaneously. I switch off between them. And yes, if I start to see someone and want her to think we are exclusive, I block her profile on that account. But then I get a hankering for some strange, or am going on a trip, I can use the other account.

CuriousVaMan
03-04-24, 12:26
I too have read those stories. Tbh, I'm not sure how I've been able to do it. I stagger the accounts chronologically. That is, I separate the account start dates by several months if not longer. The first account I learn about the SBs, the second account I use to transact. I got to this point because I had blocked (and been blocked by) more than a few SBs on my first Seeking account, so I opened a second account, running the two in parallel. I recently deleted the first account and will attempt to open a new account here shortly.


How did you pull that off? There are so many stories of people being banned off seeking and cannot even get back on with a new account due to digits fingerprints or something like that, let alone able to have 2 concurrent accounts. It's smart.

MrBlueSea
03-04-24, 14:36
I too have read those stories. Tbh, I'm not sure how I've been able to do it. I stagger the accounts chronologically. That is, I separate the account start dates by several months if not longer. The first account I learn about the SBs, the second account I use to transact. I got to this point because I had blocked (and been blocked by) more than a few SBs on my first Seeking account, so I opened a second account, running the two in parallel. I recently deleted the first account and will attempt to open a new account here shortly.Banned again on seeking, no idea why. Haven't even come close to any friction with anyone on there. Might be time to look for a new site if I can't get back on. Does anyone have a recommendation for a different site?

Chupacabra
03-04-24, 14:46
I too have read those stories. Tbh, I'm not sure how I've been able to do it. I stagger the accounts chronologically. That is, I separate the account start dates by several months if not longer. The first account I learn about the SBs, the second account I use to transact. I got to this point because I had blocked (and been blocked by) more than a few SBs on my first Seeking account, so I opened a second account, running the two in parallel. I recently deleted the first account and will attempt to open a new account here shortly.If the same name and credit card info is on two accounts, that doesn't flag it?

FarFarAway
03-04-24, 16:59
If the same name and credit card info is on two accounts, that doesn't flag it?Like many guys, I do not give my correct IRL personal info to seeking. I do actually use the same sugar name and address, but the prepaid debit cards are different. So, they surely know I have two profiles, with different email addresses for the logins.

Gidden Lade
03-06-24, 12:12
....but the prepaid debit cards are different.May I ask which prepaid card you use?

FarFarAway
03-06-24, 13:41
May I ask which prepaid card you use?Incessantly asked on this site. Search for my posts. If I could find OneVanilla Visa, those still work, however, they are scarce as hens teeth. There is another prepaid card available in 50 and 100 denominations, at this instant I am not 100% sure on the name, perhaps Blackhawk.

UnknownSD
03-07-24, 13:34
There are a few ways to get back onto Seeking after you're banned. I'll share one quick and easy method below.

After you're banned, you'll need to create a new account first. You'll need to register a new email account to use. Also, you need to delete all the cookies and browser data on your browser. It's best to create a new browser profile on Google Chrome. If you want to be extra cautious, you can change your IP Address on your router but it's not necessary. Luckily, SA doesn't check IP Address as of now. Maybe they will in the future. Who knows. Also, don't use any of your previous photos or copy and paste messages again or any of your previously used content. You'll be easily flagged if you do. After you create your account, use the method below to upgrade to Premium.

Method 1: Use Prepaid Credit Card. You can use any prepaid credit card to upgrade your account to premium. If you tried this before and if it didn't work, here's the reason why. You'll need to add at least 5 x of the subscription amount to your prepaid card. Just adding $100-$300 is not going to work. You'll get declined. If you're doing the monthly subscription, you'll need to add at least $600. If you're doing quarterly subscription, you'll need to add at least $1200. Why do you need to add so much? That's because SA automatically adds you to the auto-renewal plan thus when you pay for the current subscription it also checks if your card has enough balance for renewal. If it doesn't it declines the transaction. That's why you need 5 x the amount to be on the safe side. Also, when you enter the credit card information, you can use any fictitious name and address you like. It doesn't check because prepaid card doesn't go through address verification because the funds are guaranteed since you can't dispute a charge on a prepaid card.

That's it. Easy right.

FarFarAway
03-07-24, 16:48
The post from unknownSD is misinformed in several respects.

There are other places on this site, in the sugar threads of other cities, where you can learn what other people have had to do to establish new accounts once being banned. I recommend you search for that information and follow it.

UnknownSD
03-07-24, 20:27
The post from unknownSD is misinformed in several respects.

There are other places on this site, in the sugar threads of other cities, where you can learn what other people have had to do to establish new accounts once being banned. I recommend you search for that information and follow it.Why don't you share the links to those posts so we can all learn from them?

StevenWalker
03-07-24, 21:24
Angelbby and bbazngirl.

Both smoking hot. Both ignored me. Godammb.

StevenWalker
03-07-24, 21:58
Should I lie about my income? I only make 100 k. It used to never matter. I got tons of action in the past with the same profile but now I feel like so many view my profile and then don't respond these days.

FarFarAway
03-07-24, 22:08
Why don't you share the links to those posts so we can all learn from them?Because it's not my job to go find all of them. If you can't find them yourself, that's your cross to bear.

I mean, the idea that you have to have 5 x the amount on the prepaid to get it accepted. That right there is a tip-off you don't know what you are talking about.

I always renew with a prepaid that has 100 on it. That way, when they try to renew at the end of the first month, the charge does not go through. I never have to worry about what sort of a 'plan' they have me on. And, you can always change the plan at the time you buy it anyway.

StevenWalker
03-07-24, 22:33
Lmao caught her redhanded angle frauding.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/a8e74bd01749bc9a

From a 9/10 to a 6. 5.

I love secretB.

Murrican
03-07-24, 23:55
There are a few ways to get back onto Seeking after you're banned. I'll share one quick and easy method below.


Method 1: Use Prepaid Credit Card. You can use any prepaid credit card to upgrade your account to premium. If you tried this before and if it didn't work, here's the reason why. You'll need to add at least 5 x of the subscription amount to your prepaid card. Just adding $100-$300 is not going to work. You'll get declined. If you're doing the monthly subscription, you'll need to add at least $600. If you're doing quarterly subscription, you'll need to add at least $1200. Why do you need to add so much? That's because SA automatically adds you to the auto-renewal plan thus when you pay for the current subscription it also checks if your card has enough balance for renewal. If it doesn't it declines the transaction. That's why you need 5 x the amount to be on the safe side. Also, when you enter the credit card information, you can use any fictitious name and address you like. It doesn't check because prepaid card doesn't go through address verification because the funds are guaranteed since you can't dispute a charge on a prepaid card.

That's it. Easy right.I appreciate that people contribute here. But this is just plain wrong. I always buy a prepaid card for exactly 88 dollars. That's 110 dollars with 20 percent coupon code. Works every time.

HollywoodGuy
03-08-24, 01:30
Should I lie about my income? I only make 100 k. It used to never matter. I got tons of action in the past with the same profile but now I feel like so many view my profile and then don't respond these days.No girl cares how much you earn... only how much you are willing to spend.

StevenWalker
03-08-24, 02:57
No girl cares how much you earn... only how much you are willing to spend.Love to hear it brother.

UnknownSD
03-08-24, 11:36
I appreciate that people contribute here. But this is just plain wrong. I always buy a prepaid card for exactly 88 dollars. That's 110 dollars with 20 percent coupon code. Works every time.I guess SA changed the algorithm. I guess too many prepaid cards were getting declined which was bad for their business. I personally don't use prepaid cards and this method was shared with me by my SD friend. Do you use it to renew your subscription for an old account or a first-time subscription for new accounts?

JollyJohnRoger
03-08-24, 19:34
Just curious, how does she record the sessions? Does she use her smartphone or hidden camera? And where can she hide her hidden camera that you can't see? It's very hard for an SB to secretly record it without you knowing. Also, they have to place it at the right angle in a clear line of sight. The only way is if she is doing an incall and she has everything set up already at her place beforehand. That's why I never do an incall to an SB's place or her hotel room. If she's going to your hotel room or meeting at an SD's place, it is very difficult to set up instantly. The only place possible where she can hide it is in her purse or her clothes but still, it is hard to set up last minute.No hidden camera. Strategically placed smartphone. Only found out when she was sending a video to her pimp / boyfriend and mistakenly sent it to me from her real number.

Murrican
03-09-24, 12:37
I guess SA changed the algorithm. I guess too many prepaid cards were getting declined which was bad for their business. I personally don't use prepaid cards and this method was shared with me by my SD friend. Do you use it to renew your subscription for an old account or a first-time subscription for new accounts?New card every time.

FarFarAway
03-09-24, 13:00
Why don't you share the links to those posts so we can all learn from them?There is a post yesterday from Shampoo55 (my bowl buddy) in the Richmond VA sugar thread.

TheSpius19
03-09-24, 14:53
Flyingkitty: She's looking for $300 ppm for M&G or platonic dates. From her profile pics, she looks like an 8 and her body is an 8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f54584af-9394-46ab-91c1-6f08b467cb4b

I can confirm that Flyingkitty IS the girl in the photos. She's YOUNG, can host in Hollywood and will BBFS with a 1 k donation. Her oral skills are sloppy with a hand twist. Pretty good overall. Very chill. Likes to play video games and then go fuck.

Also, there's a SkywalkerBlueeyes on Seeking who's a straight up Nigerian scammer who'll start hitting you up for money to help "pay for her grandmother's caretaker" so she can go meet up and fuck. TOTAL scam.

Also also it appears that a subset of the "top girls" (LOL) have now all agreed that $3 k ppm is the new number and that $10 k-$15 k per month allowance is the new long term number. And they don't like it when you start laughing at them and link them to TER. LOL.

TheSpius19
03-09-24, 15:12
Rubi: I reviewed her previously in my SB Reviews and she's back again with a brand new profile with the same username. Some of the pics she used in this new profile are from the last profiles and with some new pics. I guess she didn't find anyone with her last profile which was only a few weeks ago. I'm not surprised since she's asking for a very very high allowance. I don't want to put the numbers here because some of you might be terrified. She's real if any of you want to give it a shot. She only does dinners for M&G at fine-dining restaurants in Beverly Hills or WEHO. No coffee meets. She's not afraid to order so be prepared for a large bill. Good luck!

https://members.seeking.com/member/6a8ef05e-127b-4e62-b0b1-f5b2d8cb4893If she's the same Rubi and the NEWEST Rubi on the site then yes. She was asking for $15 k a month and minimum $3 k ppm and she was offended when I told her "There's no such thing as a $3,000 pussy. You want to sell it, you should study the market. ".

MrBlueSea
03-09-24, 15:39
I too have read those stories. Tbh, I'm not sure how I've been able to do it. I stagger the accounts chronologically. That is, I separate the account start dates by several months if not longer. The first account I learn about the SBs, the second account I use to transact. I got to this point because I had blocked (and been blocked by) more than a few SBs on my first Seeking account, so I opened a second account, running the two in parallel. I recently deleted the first account and will attempt to open a new account here shortly.I will for sure give that a try. But any other sites to check out? Need to find an alternative.

StevenWalker
03-09-24, 20:45
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HollywoodGuy
03-09-24, 21:15
I forgot I had my profile on pause. But it automatically restarts after 3 months. Guess I will take a look around but not getting my hopes up in any way.

Chupacabra
03-09-24, 21:21
If she's the same Rubi and the NEWEST Rubi on the site then yes. She was asking for $15 k a month and minimum $3 k ppm and she was offended when I told her "There's no such thing as a $3,000 pussy. You want to sell it, you should study the market. ".LOL I hope you actually said that. These women need a dose of reality. Unfortunately, there's some simp out there with a pocket full of BTC who will meet her asking price and all it takes is one. Those are the guys that need to get lectured even more than the GPS women.

UnknownSD
03-10-24, 02:21
If she's the same Rubi and the NEWEST Rubi on the site then yes. She was asking for $15 k a month and minimum $3 k ppm and she was offended when I told her "There's no such thing as a $3,000 pussy. You want to sell it, you should study the market..That's the same Rubi. Latino girl. She also wanted the money upfront so she could walk out the door on you. She's not that attractive in person anyway. I'm not sure what she is thinking to ask for such a high price. Ridiculous!

UnknownSD
03-10-24, 02:24
No hidden camera. Strategically placed smartphone. Only found out when she was sending a video to her pimp / boyfriend and mistakenly sent it to me from her real number.That's pretty hard to do. The smartphone has to be standing up and right in your point of view. You couldn't see it?

UltraCreamy
03-10-24, 03:35
I can confirm that Flyingkitty IS the girl in the photos. She's YOUNG, can host in Hollywood and will BBFS with a 1 k donation. Her oral skills are sloppy with a hand twist. Pretty good overall. Very chill. Likes to play video games and then go fuck.

Also, there's a SkywalkerBlueeyes on Seeking who's a straight up Nigerian scammer who'll start hitting you up for money to help "pay for her grandmother's caretaker" so she can go meet up and fuck. TOTAL scam.

Also also it appears that a subset of the "top girls" (LOL) have now all agreed that $3 k ppm is the new number and that $10 k-$15 k per month allowance is the new long term number. And they don't like it when you start laughing at them and link them to TER. LOL."Flyingkitty" or whatever her name is used to be on HX. Well known BBFS provider. I have her added on IG.

FarFarAway
03-10-24, 14:09
Seeking just emailed me giving me a free hour on the site over the next 14 hours. I will of course take advantage of this.

I have heard about this in the not-too-distant past. Every once in a while, throw the dogs a bone.

UnknownSD
03-10-24, 18:19
GorgeousGirl: White blonde girl in her late 20's. She's visiting LA for a week and staying near Beverly Hills. She's looking for 1 k ppm. From her profile photos, her looks are an 8/9 and her body is an 8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/27d82252-38d6-4f6b-bcd4-757ab738fde0

Jaeink999: Korean girl in her mid-20's. She lives in Orange County. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b9193253-af8e-4cc9-a1d3-bedd3eeca4e4

Bethleo: White girl in her late 20's. She's short at 5'2" and has prognathism with a longer face. She currently works at a Gentlemen's Club as a waitress. She lives near Hollywood. Her looks are a 6/7 and her body is a 6/7. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bbc9e992-54d9-48ac-9a51-cf410a8b88cf

Maryhoney: She's a 21-year-old white blonde girl currently in college. She doesn't live in LA but out of state. She's not slim as described on her profile but actually thick and has a few extra pounds / overweight. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 5.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b708f240-8522-4c50-8588-626787eba4f7

FunAndFocused: Eastern European white blonde girl in her late 20's. Her photos are accurate. Her body is slightly curvy with a bigger ass. Her looks are a 6/7 and her body is a 5/6. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/71f50382-635a-46ad-a4d6-625933ae8cc1

BeautifulMadame: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/31a4b545-a426-476d-a85b-78137c0f8a91

NiceGurl: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7227a862-e55f-4b70-8e30-b229d1a63830

Ava_k917: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/59ee1818-9f35-4c5c-af3b-97424600ed06

Hannahxo: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0fd1ad64-aa24-440a-a453-b677a44088a7

Cutenspicy69: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5c4a94c0-5dff-4d75-b45f-36ce2b5655b8

SouthernBelleLA: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/676d224c-5077-4f16-881c-e721e1f19298

GingerzOcean: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/24e70af0-2545-4871-b9b1-e751316ebb27

Missthing645: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5b426289-04ff-48d9-bea5-b05774c47227

UnknownSD
03-11-24, 18:06
Landed a hot rice girl. Later gents.Did you find her on SecretBenefits?

StevenWalker
03-11-24, 20:44
Did you find her on SecretBenefits?Seeking. I just use SecretB to see their verification videos LOL.

DogTown997
03-12-24, 20:09
"Flyingkitty" or whatever her name is used to be on HX. Well known BBFS provider. I have her added on IG.Yeah used to be 600 when she was 18 & no tatts, also currently on PD https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Los-Angeles/kendallsworldxx.

UnknownSD
03-15-24, 13:35
LovelyBun: Korean girl in her late 20's or early 30's. She lives near Whittier. She's been on SA before for many years. Her profile pics and private pics are all fake. It's not her. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6. She's looking for 1.5 k ppm but is willing to come down to 1 k ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/09a6b3ae-5803-4559-8854-87da64c82526

GorgeousGorgeous: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/60233566-90c8-41b3-bf4f-6cc073efc157

Portia2 bi: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3bca2a6c-4cb4-4ed7-9570-df873a3bb2ed

StunningHottie: Fake / Scammer. Selling pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/500d5921-24ba-4186-ac6d-e21c673812b7

Nina sapp: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e0179fd3-6b14-4b58-bc01-edc9a7b841f2

ChefSolo
03-15-24, 22:52
https://members.seeking.com/member/70f03f9c-2934-4a2c-b7d2-0cdb50b546e0

Anyone try this one out? She seems pretty active and I've seen her come and go.

Large Ess
03-16-24, 14:43
https://members.seeking.com/member/70f03f9c-2934-4a2c-b7d2-0cdb50b546e0

Anyone try this one out? She seems pretty active and I've seen her come and go.I texted with her and she was up for all but pricey.

FarFarAway
03-17-24, 11:33
I am enjoying a business trip to a well-known party town. Made the connection in advance w / an educated SB who looks very very good. Early 30's, long blond hair. Once in town, we had a phone call, that sealed the deal. We met up at a bar / restaurant w / live music she had aspired to but never sprung for the $. Nice meal, nice company. Likely too much alcohol (for me anyway). Despite the 2 x difference in ages, our interactions were sexy and flirtatious. Her laughing eyes and smile said she wanted to FC. Once outside, I asked her for her preferred destination, and she said she'd be fine w / heading to my hotel. Great.

We get here, she hops right on the bed, at that stage I ask what allowance would make her happy. She started at 7. Various negotiating tactics ensued on each side. We eventually got to 6, which is comparable to my total costs when I am seeing a SB at home and have to pay for a room. Not ideal, but not terrible, and as it has turned out w / other prospects I am working on, the bird in the hand and all that. She was on my bed and prepared to fuck, plenty of other possibilities for this trip have fallen by the wayside. In retrospect, though, I wished I had negotiated allowance at the restaurant.

She started at the exactly perfect spot. Licking the boys, a real favorite for me. She's really gorgeous, smooth skin, petite, kinda small sensitive boobs, but the main course was absolutely spectacular. Gorgeous gorgeous pussy w / large soft lips. My absolute favorite. I spent a great deal of time there. Tasty. I asked her if I could take a photo, even w / out her face, it wasn't crazy considering what I was giving her in allowance, but she declined because of career concerns. I did not push it.

She was talking of her enjoyment of doggie, it's not my preferred starting point because I tend to finish there. Anyway, I encouraged her to take a second round on the oral, and she really gave me a crotch bath. Super enjoyable. The banging was great, she was definitely excited and wet. Interestingly, I am fingering her clit, she wants me to stimulate her above it, rather than right on it. I guess she is very sensitive. Did lots of missionary, she likes her legs wide and high, and it let me rotate her around and get behind her. This seemed to be a good choice for her. Eventually went back to missionary for the finish. We hung out for quite a while chatting, but it was late for her, so she books her Uber home. That late it took a while, I walked her down and waited w / her. Texts from her today super positive. Probably won't see her again, but the memories of this one I take to the grave.

FarFarAway
03-18-24, 13:00
Had a date w a 42 YO lawyer. We had dinner at my hotel, she was a little bit strange, wasn't sure I was going to do anything w / her. After eating I suggested stretching our legs. She was sorta stalling, getting drinks, we finally walk back to the hotel. I didn't think she was up for it, so I said I should send her home unless she told me something different. She did, so we went up to my room. Some nice making out, I got her naked, I got my mouth on everything but her puss, and I even wondered if this would be a freebie. Then she starts negotiating allowance. She thought I would think w / the little head. She made me start, so I said what I wanted. 400. Her counter was 700. I said I could not, and 450. I didn't really hear her but it must have been 500. And then she said was giving me a big discount. And then, we weren't going to agree over $50? I thought about it. Her discount comment suggested to me that she wasn't going to be a good lay. And her body was nothing like my other SB. I just said 'I am going to send you home'. So, she got dressed and left. Some niceties were exchanged. Though, oddly, as she went out the door of the room, she kissed me. Hoping I don't get any blowback from her. I blocked her on GV.

XJakeRobertsx
03-19-24, 11:36
Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?

UnknownSD
03-19-24, 13:20
Charlotte: She's back active on SA again. She's been on SA for many years now. She's a white girl in her late 20's. She has a curvy body with a big ass. Her looks are a 7/8 and her body is a 7. She's looking for $1.5 k ppm. She also has a friend who can join for a threesome for an additional $1.5 k ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a002cf03-540f-4989-b238-6e509076a978

Wildkeeb: White girl in her late 20's. She's tall and slim body. She lives in Reseda. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 7/8. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cc4a5489-6c05-4024-a23e-6265760aab4c

Jasmine: She's looking for $300 for an M&G. Not sure if she's real. Possible scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0afce751-c92d-4846-b90a-8d2dc0437d6e

Yonie: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c46da1b7-613c-47b9-acc7-f9915ec21b9e

Angelmarissa: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/57143c08-6e9c-47e1-b05e-f121a72e984a

PrettyChickie: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0cbdfbad-1862-4d0b-8ea8-88c4e921e6a1

Funtimeswithme: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6c59e9d4-021b-4836-9111-cf739ffbb2a0

RamseyAshlyn: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cc39461d-e189-4d1d-af6f-51d96459404d

Mary86: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0cae8b0a-1f32-4ee4-b2f0-9604aedaa5b3

ElegantPrincess: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b0d04547-18c3-49c5-899a-1a837e94b00a

Trophie sophie: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6b7d2329-e21e-40de-a019-3c868443b0b6

Kat10: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cf3f55a5-93b4-4de7-927c-83f9b7b7b87c

EnchantingDancer: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c87327ad-9034-4cca-b3ed-3389c343004d

UnknownSD
03-19-24, 19:54
Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?Yes, but it's hard to find those now. Most of the girls on SA now are all very experienced and it's the same girls that keep recycling. They get off and get back on with new profiles. There are barely any new girls.

CoolGuy818
03-19-24, 21:51
Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?I've gotten a couple freebies from an OC girl. She's still the only girl I've actually met up with from SA. She's a 28 yo MILF. No fat from the baby though and she's still nice and tight. LOVES BBFS, in fact she says she hates the condom LOL. She was actually contemplating having me not wrap up our first time together. I wore the rubber the first time to ease her nerves, but haven't used protection since. Just no cipbut she's a great fuck and super chill.

Apparently she normally does 1 k per meet but I've been giving her 500. I'll meet with her 2-3 times a month. A couple times she declines the cash, but I'll give her a couple hundred anyways.

Alkalinedio
03-19-24, 23:24
I've got a handful of those. It usually works with the brand new ones, or if there's an attraction. I usually go with 'let's just see if we vibe, what if you don't like me? And vice versa' and say that way there is no pressure, get a drink and the next time we can spoil if there's a connection. The pros if they mention money right away it will not work with, they are too seasoned or have been burned. I'll even say I'll cover your gas, but let's just hang to see if we are attracted and vibe. It doesn't work with the pros, I try to avoid those.

Stay safe.

AD.


Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?

Alkalinedio
03-19-24, 23:25
Good move! Cut your losses.


Had a date w a 42 YO lawyer. We had dinner at my hotel, she was a little bit strange, wasn't sure I was going to do anything w / her. After eating I suggested stretching our legs. She was sorta stalling, getting drinks, we finally walk back to the hotel. I didn't think she was up for it, so I said I should send her home unless she told me something different. She did, so we went up to my room. Some nice making out, I got her naked, I got my mouth on everything but her puss, and I even wondered if this would be a freebie. Then she starts negotiating allowance. She thought I would think w / the little head. She made me start, so I said what I wanted. 400. Her counter was 700. I said I could not, and 450. I didn't really hear her but it must have been 500. And then she said was giving me a big discount. And then, we weren't going to agree over $50? I thought about it. Her discount comment suggested to me that she wasn't going to be a good lay. And her body was nothing like my other SB. I just said 'I am going to send you home'. So, she got dressed and left. Some niceties were exchanged. Though, oddly, as she went out the door of the room, she kissed me. Hoping I don't get any blowback from her. I blocked her on GV.

ColoHobbyist
03-19-24, 23:32
Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?Absolutely, although not since COVID. There was a year stretch during the worst of it where I banged 6 different girls for free (aside from coffees, a,couple pizzas, etc). Apparently there's someplace 20-somethings go during regular times to find 50 year old guys to creampie them that was closed during the pandemic. 😂.

In all honesty though, none of these chicks were above a 6. But I'd rather bang a 4 that's into it for free than an 8 that's bored for $400.

Loafy
03-20-24, 01:30
Miley Osaka: Very tiny Korean-American girl, early 20's. Probably like 5', 90 lbs, maybe even a little smaller. Clean and put-together, a little shy. Good kisser, but everything was covered. Service was rushed, and felt like a service. I think she was hoping for a few pumps and then she'd be out of there. She was charging 500 for a M&G or 750 for straight to the bedroom. Not sure what her thinking is there; obviously I took option 2.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cbbada91-8d89-47b3-a5b6-627f88eea3ca

Also, I was browsing Tryst the other day, and it looks like she's recently gone pro. She still seems quite inexperienced though:

https://tryst.link/escort/mileyosakaDamn, she's up in sf now and quoting 1. 5; idk what her rules are tho. Covered?

Vodka Tonic
03-20-24, 01:31
In the style of UnknownSD.

Lookin4 RichBF: LOL, the username says it all. Looking for long-term arrangement. Allowance negotiable, but I'm guessing she wants a sky-high allowance. I didn't get that far because I only negotiate allowance in person and she wanted $300 for a m&g. I countered with $150 and she got offended. For you big spenders though, she looks pretty hot. Mid-20's, Latina but her makeup makes her look Asian. Face 7, Body 8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e0621bae-55c1-472d-bbe7-32b7e8df18b3

Chupacabra
03-20-24, 02:12
I'm taking a break from sugaring, because I just don't see the value. I realize some of you guys like the illusion of having a gf or the illusion that she isn't really a hooker or prefer the GND look, etc. But I just look at it as value for money and I value personality and looks. Personality is subjective and takes some time to figure out, but looks are objective and right there in your face. It's the reason why apps like Tinder or Bumble are so popular, you can scan quickly and see if you like someone's looks.

Having said that. . . Where are the hotties? I'm seeing girls asking for 1 k, 1. 5 k or more and they are just cute, not hot. You can find a good younger K-girl or even a girl off Humaniplex with equal or even better looks for much, much less. Sure there are girls worth that higher price range, but in my mind they are true model material. Scandinavian blondes, long legged Russians, real top shelf girls like you'd see in a music video or working as eye candy at a top club or pool party in Vegas. I know they exist because when I was younger and prettier I actually dated a couple, and they would blow anyone out of the water on SA right now. Not even exaggerating. They'd probably be asking for 3-5 k or more if I'm just comparing their looks to these girls on SA now. But I don't even see those women on SA at all. Maybe once in a blue moon and it's usually some weird scammy seeming profile like a "LOVE girl" or they want money upfront or they are in Europe, etc.

I know there are real ballers that can toss 3-5 k around like pocket change for models (I knew some young rich jerks from UAE back in the day that did this all the time) but there is nothing for them to throw their shekels at on SA. So I guess I'm back to my original question. . . Where are the hotties? I know they still exist and like all super hot women, I know they are selling their asses for money somewhere. I'm thinking they must be peddling their wares somewhere other than SA or the usual escort sites. Even Russian / Ukrainian escorts seem to be super scarce and hard to find compared to say the 2000's. Is it Instagram? Snapchat? Tiktok? Do you need to "slide into the DMs" these days to actually get in front of a true hottie? Somebody younger and more in touch with social media these days must know, so help a brotha out. Where are they hiding the top shelf?

In my mind, SA is dead and all of the true 8's, 9's and 10's are gone and now all that's left is a bunch of 7's charging wayyy too much for what you get.

FarFarAway
03-20-24, 08:56
I'm taking a break from sugaring, because I just don't see the value. I realize some of you guys like the illusion of having a gf or the illusion that she isn't really a hooker or prefer the GND look, etc. But I just look at it as value for money and I value personality and looks. Personality is subjective and takes some time to figure out, but looks are objective and right there in your face. It's the reason why apps like Tinder or Bumble are so popular, you can scan quickly and see if you like someone's looks.

In my mind, SA is dead and all of the true 8's, 9's and 10's are gone and now all that's left is a bunch of 7's charging wayyy too much for what you get.We'll keep that in mind.

UnknownSD
03-20-24, 10:04
In the style of UnknownSD.

Lookin4 RichBF: LOL, the username says it all. Looking for long-term arrangement. Allowance negotiable, but I'm guessing she wants a sky-high allowance. I didn't get that far because I only negotiate allowance in person and she wanted $300 for a m&g. I countered with $150 and she got offended. For you big spenders though, she looks pretty hot. Mid-20's, Latina but her makeup makes her look Asian. Face 7, Body 8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e0621bae-55c1-472d-bbe7-32b7e8df18b3Haha. Nice style LOL. You're smart. I avoid these because they usually just meet you to pick up the money and walk out the door on you. It's a complete waste of time and money. Good call.

HollywoodGuy
03-20-24, 11:51
In my mind, SA is dead and all of the true 8's, 9's and 10's are gone and now all that's left is a bunch of 7's charging wayyy too much for what you get.Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.

ColoHobbyist
03-20-24, 12:45
Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.Yeah. I can only say that if you've got an income stream that's protected from recession, the next golden age in this will be when the economy eventually tanks. To paraphrase my 90 year old dad "When the economy is crap, there's always some baller with a Lamborghini and a lot of hot ass. ".

SteveTandberg
03-20-24, 13:53
Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.IMHO, much more than doubled. Girls that were comfortably under 400 are 1 k or more.

Girls that were 500 are asking 1. 5 k or more.

The false info spread by these SB coaches is deafening.

Onlyfans only makes it worse. I'm guessing that many of the supply of 8+ went the Onlyfans route.

As long as guys will pay for Onlyfans, why would they come back? Make multiples of what they were raking as a SB and not have to put out?

The 6's and below are a different story but who really wants to pay them?

DavidTheSancho
03-20-24, 14:55
What these girls want nowadays is insane. 1 k for an Asian girl, I'm so close to just saying screw it because she's absolutely my type and gorgeous. She won't budge at all tho. I've had a couple girls accept $400 but they disappear if you don't immediately get them in person before their attention spans goes else where or they have second thoughts about have a new dad. Gah.

FarFarAway
03-20-24, 15:26
IMHO, much more than doubled. Girls that were comfortably under 400 are 1 k or more.

Girls that were 500 are asking 1. 5 k or more.

The false info spread by these SB coaches is deafening.

Onlyfans only makes it worse. I'm guessing that many of the supply of 8+ went the Onlyfans route.

As long as guys will pay for Onlyfans, why would they come back? Make multiples of what they were raking as a SB and not have to put out?

The 6's and below are a different story but who really wants to pay them?I don't think that lore about OF is correct. My bowl buddy, Shampoo55, has looked into this. Something like 98% of the girls on OF are making less than $200 / mo. There are a very small few who are making the thousands of $s. That can't be what happened to all the SBs.

UnknownSD
03-20-24, 19:34
I don't think that lore about OF is correct. My bowl buddy, Shampoo55, has looked into this. Something like 98% of the girls on OF are making less than $200 / mo. There are a very small few who are making the thousands of $s. That can't be what happened to all the SBs.I have to agree with SteveTandberg. FarFarAway is incorrect. There are 16 k+ creators on OF that makes over $50 k per year. These 16 k content creators are you 8, 9, 10's. The ones that make $180/ month on average or less are you 5, 6, and 7's and under girls. Check out the source below for the numbers or Google it.

https://www.usesignhouse.com/blog/onlyfans-users#text=Other%20 interesting%20 stats%20 about%20 OnlyFans, median%20 account%20 makes%20%24180%2 Fmo.

Chupacabra
03-20-24, 22:24
Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.Thanks HG. It seems like SA is over the hill. I'll either have to get better with social media or just stick to the true pros.

Chupacabra
03-20-24, 22:26
IMHO, much more than doubled. Girls that were comfortably under 400 are 1 k or more.

Girls that were 500 are asking 1. 5 k or more.

The false info spread by these SB coaches is deafening.

Onlyfans only makes it worse. I'm guessing that many of the supply of 8+ went the Onlyfans route.

As long as guys will pay for Onlyfans, why would they come back? Make multiples of what they were raking as a SB and not have to put out?

The 6's and below are a different story but who really wants to pay them?This sounds right to me. The real hotties are just milking the simps on OF (I have never used it but have heard about it), and a few toss out a ridiculous ask on SA to see if any other simp bites. Fucking simps are the enemy, for sure.

FarFarAway
03-21-24, 00:37
This sounds right to me. The real hotties are just milking the simps on OF (I have never used it but have heard about it), and a few toss out a ridiculous ask on SA to see if any other simp bites. Fucking simps are the enemy, for sure.So, there was a self-admitted certified one on here just a while back. Was paying exorbitant sugar to SBs. Did you guys take him to task?

We do know from HG that some girls are lucky enough to get hooked up w / someone like that, his former SB has such a setup. I still do not believe that situation is common enough. You guys who are poor and can't pay that are just whiners. I don't have unlimited funds, but read my two recent posts here. I got some top-notch SBs, and it wasnt cheap, but it wasn't insane. And neither of those dates were w / someone who would be on OF.

PantyPatrol1
03-21-24, 12:50
Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.I decided to move on from SA-not enough bang for the subscription buck lately. Not like there weren't a few excellent conquests recently, but not worth what they are charging for the site or what the POTS are trying to get from daddies. If it gets better then maybe will jump back on at a later date.

UnknownSD
03-21-24, 13:46
I decided to move on from SA-not enough bang for the subscription buck lately. Not like there weren't a few excellent conquests recently, but not worth what they are charging for the site or what the POTS are trying to get from daddies. If it gets better then maybe will jump back on at a later date.I don't blame you. It's dead on SA. I'm probably getting off of SA after my subscription expires near the end of the month. I'm tired of dealing with all the fake / scammer profiles on there.

WowU812
03-21-24, 14:11
Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?Not the first, but a few over the years have been free after the first time.

HollywoodGuy
03-21-24, 16:06
Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?I have done that but they were usually just one time car dates. But I had one girl about 10 years ago that I saw at least 6 or 7 times sans sugar. She absolutely refused to take any money at all and said it would ruin it for her. Not even a meal which I offered every time we met. And the sex was pretty good, she went for a good hour to an hour and a half per session.

PantyPatrol1
03-21-24, 20:30
I don't blame you. It's dead on SA. I'm probably getting off of SA after my subscription expires near the end of the month. I'm tired of dealing with all the fake / scammer profiles on there.It was real. Maybe later this year. Good luck to everyone else still on there.

Chupacabra
03-22-24, 02:40
I don't blame you. It's dead on SA. I'm probably getting off of SA after my subscription expires near the end of the month. I'm tired of dealing with all the fake / scammer profiles on there.I'm going to join you. Canceled my subscription. I guess we're just poor whiners who won't step up and overpay for mediocre pussy, like a real man. LOL.

UnknownSD
03-22-24, 12:50
Jillian S: White girl in her mid-20's. From her profile pics, her looks are a 7/8 and her body is a 7/8. She's asking for $2 k ppm but will come down to $1.5 k ppm. She does BBFS.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e372d225-9fe0-4fc5-b591-90394671323b

Funblonde: White blonde girl in her late 20's or early 30's. She's based in Las Vegas and visits LA occasionally. From her profile pics, her looks are a 7 and her body is a 7. She's asking for 2 k ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/443edf42-5486-4c0c-a1dc-c7eb94169e32

Amelia_angel_baby: She's back on SA again. White girl in her late 20's or 30's. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 8. She looks kind of like a Trans. She's asking for 1 k ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a87f695d-031d-483d-a657-df3ef1124bcd

BigTiiddyPrincess: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/66ce73d3-40f9-4200-bad1-7f880913f38b

CuteBae: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6181411a-a518-4501-adcf-094ccbe450ec

Itsskyy: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6a5114cc-a522-4622-be01-7a0ce778644f

NicePrincess: Fake / Scammer. Location is California City. Automatically a red flag.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c3267d3b-c833-4493-9149-8668e3c7bee9

Naughtyone: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8cddaebb-47f1-4494-b3c7-d4f758de353e

EasygoingBeauty: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2a566951-9efb-42d5-9ba7-f299317a6d22

DynamicDancer: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5981df5a-1f85-45b9-b779-e88904fdb12b

UnknownSD
03-23-24, 13:46
Kaylee2344: White girl in her late 20's in San Diego. She's short at 5'. She had sugar experience in the past. Her looks are a 7/8 and her body is a 7/8. She's condom only. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1111fcf3-7040-43be-9c44-a1761f09bbc1

SweetRocker: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/240e1c08-748a-4f9f-b19e-e668c95485f6

ConfidentGirl: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6b3826f1-51bb-4da9-9a5d-ac3bbc9447dc

Mistressflexi: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e8610448-5056-4983-824c-7c7277555b92

Beauty: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ecafd8ad-6ac0-4c98-86c2-aae8a06a1a11

Caligirlb: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/71430192-f0f6-4194-a568-2f80443c0dd5

MrBlueSea
03-23-24, 15:20
I'm going to join you. Canceled my subscription. I guess we're just poor whiners who won't step up and overpay for mediocre pussy, like a real man. LOL.Any other sites besides SB??

Chupacabra
03-24-24, 01:23
Any other sites besides SB??None that I know of. I always used SA off and on, so that's the only "sugar bowl" I know. Back in the day it was good to great, but now I think that what's left on both sides are just too jaded + the true hotties are running off to OF or other social media which has both drained the pool and inflated the sugar rates to ludicrous levels for the 4's-7's that remain. When I can get a better connection and more intimacy from a regular Kgirl or a masseuse at a fraction of the price and without any attitude, it's time to move on from SA. Who knows, maybe it will experience a renaissance but I won't hold my breath.

There's another poster I forget his handle right now, he has gone back to old school ways of just chatting up young cashiers and waitresses and hinting at sugar. I think he hands out business cards too. I may try that route. LOL I think the passive guys who have no game and no balls to use escorts who actually call themselves escorts instead of "sugar babies" (simps) are still on SA chasing a dwindling crop of increasingly cynical talent and the prices are going insane as a result, so the better values now require some legwork like tracking them down on social medial and chatting them up, or even going old school in person. Or if you want to just order up some pussy then stick with Kgirls and maybe Humaniplex. My two cents.

Chupacabra
03-24-24, 01:28
Kaylee2344: White girl in her late 20's in San Diego. She's short at 5'. She had sugar experience in the past. Her looks are a 7/8 and her body is a 7/8. She's condom only. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1111fcf3-7040-43be-9c44-a1761f09bbc1

SweetRocker: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/240e1c08-748a-4f9f-b19e-e668c95485f6

ConfidentGirl: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6b3826f1-51bb-4da9-9a5d-ac3bbc9447dc

Mistressflexi: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e8610448-5056-4983-824c-7c7277555b92

Beauty: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ecafd8ad-6ac0-4c98-86c2-aae8a06a1a11

Caligirlb: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/71430192-f0f6-4194-a568-2f80443c0dd5I think the percentage of fake / scammer in your reviews is pretty telling. It's consistent with what I experienced, too. They are pimping their OF account, they want money for pics, they want money for online chats, they want "findom" where apparently they just berate you for money (I want to strangle the simps who even allowed this to become a thing in the first place. It's like having an ex-wife without even sex or kids WTF is wrong with you), they want money just to go to lunch (payment upfront of course), they don't actually have sex they just are there for companionship or to pose nude without you touching them or to paddle your ass, or they bounce 30 seconds after the deed (basically just pros). The list goes on.

Drken
03-24-24, 11:41
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/offers/new

I'm getting offers from girls from whatsyourprice.com, anyone with experience with the girls on this SD clone?

Alkalinedio
03-24-24, 13:14
Gents,

Got on SA during the pandemic and had a blast. My account finally got deleted by SA (not by me) I think for the cut and paste deal.

I'm not worried as it was really getting worse and worse over the past 1-2 yrs, fake profiles, trans etc.

Question: If they deleted my account, shut it down, does the billing automatically stop? I hit the FAQ's didn't see that one.

Curious if anyone else experienced this and the billing shuts down simultaneously.

Thanks for any intel.

AD.

FarFarAway
03-24-24, 14:30
Gents,

Got on SA during the pandemic and had a blast. My account finally got deleted by SA (not by me) I think for the cut and paste deal.

I'm not worried as it was really getting worse and worse over the past 1-2 yrs, fake profiles, trans etc.

Question: If they deleted my account, shut it down, does the billing automatically stop? I hit the FAQ's didn't see that one.

Curious if anyone else experienced this and the billing shuts down simultaneously.

Thanks for any intel.

AD.IDK specifically, but if you gave them a real credit card #, first of all, shame on you. Most of us go w / prepaid debit cards. It seems likely if you don't have a profile they can't bill you. But if it is your real cc, you can always go to the card issuer if they bill you and dispute the charge.

Yeah, they do sometimes get their back up if the identical message is sent to too many. Say it is spam. However, the first offense of that (which I have endured), they usually just suspend the profile for 24 hours, then give it back to you. You just have to be careful about how many you send. I also, just for my own advantage, typically customize openers, then put in my usual text blocks.

UnknownSD
03-24-24, 15:05
Gents,

Got on SA during the pandemic and had a blast. My account finally got deleted by SA (not by me) I think for the cut and paste deal.

I'm not worried as it was really getting worse and worse over the past 1-2 yrs, fake profiles, trans etc.

Question: If they deleted my account, shut it down, does the billing automatically stop? I hit the FAQ's didn't see that one.

Curious if anyone else experienced this and the billing shuts down simultaneously.

Thanks for any intel.

AD.Yes, if you got blocked / deleted by SA then billing automatically stops. You won't be able to use the same credit card or the name on the credit card for new accounts. It will automatically be declined and your new account will be blocked again.

UnknownSD
03-24-24, 15:07
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/offers/new

I'm getting offers from girls from whatsyourprice.com, anyone with experience with the girls on this SD clone?Not worth it. You have to pay per connection which is costly. Also, most of the profiles are fake or girls just looking for platonic dates.

UnknownSD
03-24-24, 15:11
I think the percentage of fake / scammer in your reviews is pretty telling. It's consistent with what I experienced, too. They are pimping their OF account, they want money for pics, they want money for online chats, they want "findom" where apparently they just berate you for money (I want to strangle the simps who even allowed this to become a thing in the first place. It's like having an ex-wife without even sex or kids WTF is wrong with you), they want money just to go to lunch (payment upfront of course), they don't actually have sex they just are there for companionship or to pose nude without you touching them or to paddle your ass, or they bounce 30 seconds after the deed (basically just pros). The list goes on.The problem is 99.9% of the fake / scammer profiles are not the content created or SB that's selling you the pics / videos. It is some guy in some foreign country who has stolen their content and selling it to you on SA. I have only met one real SB who was selling her content out of the thousands of fake profiles that I have come across. She was able to verify herself through video chat. The rest decline to verify themselves through video chat then you know it's not them in the pics.

UnknownSD
03-24-24, 15:16
Gents,

Got on SA during the pandemic and had a blast. My account finally got deleted by SA (not by me) I think for the cut and paste deal.

I'm not worried as it was really getting worse and worse over the past 1-2 yrs, fake profiles, trans etc.

Question: If they deleted my account, shut it down, does the billing automatically stop? I hit the FAQ's didn't see that one.

Curious if anyone else experienced this and the billing shuts down simultaneously.

Thanks for any intel.

AD.Also, forgot to say. SA cannot delete your account because you copy and paste. You probably violated their TOS. Did you use the words per meet or ppm in your messages?

Also, if enough SB accounts report you, your account will be flagged and sometimes SA will require you to verify yourself before you can use the account again. SA will ask you for your I'd for verification.

RanManCan
03-24-24, 20:19
Gents,

Got on SA during the pandemic and had a blast. My account finally got deleted by SA (not by me) I think for the cut and paste deal.

I'm not worried as it was really getting worse and worse over the past 1-2 yrs, fake profiles, trans etc.

Question: If they deleted my account, shut it down, does the billing automatically stop? I hit the FAQ's didn't see that one.

Curious if anyone else experienced this and the billing shuts down simultaneously.

Thanks for any intel.

AD.They won't bill you, they don't want chargebacks.

Alkalinedio
03-25-24, 02:29
Yep they warned me before for sending the same copy and paste LOL. I would do what you said, customize the first few lines, then paste the bait but I got lazy toward the end and was just mass pasting. Too many fake profiles, but found some gems but the amount of time to weed them out was getting rough.

Thanks for the info, the billing was my biggest concern. I needed a break from it anyway.

Thanks again.

AD.


Also, forgot to say. SA cannot delete your account because you copy and paste. You probably violated their TOS. Did you use the words per meet or ppm in your messages?

Also, if enough SB accounts report you, your account will be flagged and sometimes SA will require you to verify yourself before you can use the account again. SA will ask you for your I'd for verification.

Alkalinedio
03-25-24, 02:30
Understood thank you!


They won't bill you, they don't want chargebacks.

Alkalinedio
03-25-24, 02:33
Yep they suspended me once or twice way back year or so ago, but I was cut and pasting a sweet short opener and I'd send it over and over LOL. I had girls ignore me and finally respond, and we ended up hooking up, more than a few times. So I would be persistent as the reward came through on many occasions.

I used an old card I rarely use so I'll keep an eye on the statement.

Appreciate it!

Thanks.

AD.


IDK specifically, but if you gave them a real credit card #, first of all, shame on you. Most of us go w / prepaid debit cards. It seems likely if you don't have a profile they can't bill you. But if it is your real cc, you can always go to the card issuer if they bill you and dispute the charge.

Yeah, they do sometimes get their back up if the identical message is sent to too many. Say it is spam. However, the first offense of that (which I have endured), they usually just suspend the profile for 24 hours, then give it back to you. You just have to be careful about how many you send. I also, just for my own advantage, typically customize openers, then put in my usual text blocks.

UnknownSD
03-25-24, 09:51
Yep they warned me before for sending the same copy and paste LOL. I would do what you said, customize the first few lines, then paste the bait but I got lazy toward the end and was just mass pasting. Too many fake profiles, but found some gems but the amount of time to weed them out was getting rough.

Thanks for the info, the billing was my biggest concern. I needed a break from it anyway.

Thanks again.

AD.Oh really? That's weird. I have been using the same message and copying and pasting it for years now. I've never gotten a warning before. I've been using the same message and mass-sending it. Did anyone else get this warning message? Can someone share a screenshot of the warning message? Thanks!

UnknownSD
03-25-24, 09:57
Yep they suspended me once or twice way back year or so ago, but I was cut and pasting a sweet short opener and I'd send it over and over LOL. I had girls ignore me and finally respond, and we ended up hooking up, more than a few times. So I would be persistent as the reward came through on many occasions.

I used an old card I rarely use so I'll keep an eye on the statement.

Appreciate it!

Thanks.

AD.I think you send out too many messages at once. If you send out over 20 or 30 messages at once in less than 15 minutes (this is ballpark estimate, not exact) they suspend your account for a period of time, like a few hours. They won't delete your account because you use copy and paste messages.

Alkalinedio
03-27-24, 10:41
That happened a year or two ago, I had to email them saying it was me & not spam, I even admitted I was too lazy to create fresh emails every time LOL, they re-instated me.

I think maybe a pro reported me because I would talk a little shit, not much, but when they would fire prices off at me sometimes I'd come back snarky, probably a culmination of all those.

All good, it was going downhill I'm taking a break back to civi action.


I think you send out too many messages at once. If you send out over 20 or 30 messages at once in less than 15 minutes (this is ballpark estimate, not exact) they suspend your account for a period of time, like a few hours. They won't delete your account because you use copy and paste messages.

FarFarAway
03-27-24, 19:55
Do women (SBs) douche anymore? And is it effective in keeping 'dog breath' at bay? I was in the FC today w / a young latina, and things were seemingly fine, but then we got into some pretty intense finger banging and other sorts of banging, and a whiff became apparent.

I was traveling a couple of years ago, in Chicago, and ended up w / a road baby in my room. She mentioned she had just completed her monthly, and OMG. There was going to be no DATY in that case. It just boggles my mind a gal could come to the FC thinking this would be OK. Especially when we're sugaring them.

This is not something you can gently tell a girl you've taken to the FC. I see no alternative but to ghost when it happens. Which is mostly against my constitution.

I just had a girl in the FC last weekend, and she sported a cold sore. So, no kissing, and no BJ. Again, if a girl knows this, shouldn't she tell you that she is not 100% and say skip the FC this time, rather than show up to get sugared w / a sub-par experience? I mean, I guess they know not to set up a date and then when you get there, she springs that she is on her monthly. In this case, I sent a follow-up text saying I looked forward to doing those things w / her once she was 100% healthy. That I have gotten radio silence suggests to me our 'relationship' will be a short one.

BTW, my FC today, it was in a hotel from dayuse. We were relaxing afterward, and we could hear a couple in the next room going at it. 100% the hotels know what their 'guests' for day rooms are enjoying. Sure hope they change those sheets.

RanManCan
03-28-24, 08:10
Do women (SBs) douche anymore? And is it effective in keeping 'dog breath' at bay? I was in the FC today w / a young latina, and things were seemingly fine, but then we got into some pretty intense finger banging and other sorts of banging, and a whiff became apparent.I've posted about this a number of times. Used to be a real issue for me, but I found the solution.

Yes, it is something you can tell them in the FC, you can even have them fix it right there with the wipes/rinse below. Without judgement or disgust, calmly tell them they have a bit of bacterial vagenosis, a very common condition due to a lack of acidity (ph balance). And the solution is boric acid.

Long term fix: Tell them to insert this nightly before bed until the bottle is gone, even if they miss a night or the odor supposedly disappears, keep going. A few nights will clear it up, all 12 capsules will fix for many months.
https://www.amazon.com/pH-D-Feminine-Health-Suppositories-Alternative/dp/B08SR1699Z/

Same date solutions:
Rinse - https://www.amazon.com/pH-D-Instant-Odor-Rinse-Boric/dp/B0991WVTM7/.
Wipes - https://www.amazon.com/Monistat-Maintain-Feminine-Wipes-Fragrance/dp/B0CFX7XCZ7.

I keep a stack of all the above, very inexpensive solution.

I'm sure hotels change sheets between guests, it's the comforter that's super gross!

DropNir
03-29-24, 00:40
Venus: Chinese-American girl, early 20's, exactly my type: tall, slender and tight, lots of tattoos. Gorgeous and she knows it. Well educated and well spoken. All bare. Very good in bed, extraordinarily good BJs. Pricing variable, but you will likely need to get to know her before you can start talking details. I think her profile makes clear that she wants some time and effort put into the process; I can verify that is the case. Completely a non-pro experience.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8ab0e24a-5a00-4dc1-a0ea-a6a588bbad31
I messaged her a couple of days ago with an introduction. I didn't ask about her monetary needs or give an offer, it was strictly introductory. She responded with "You sound cool, but I'm really expensive to date. Good Luck " and then blocked me.

ReDtoLaunch
03-29-24, 02:39
None that I know of. I always used SA off and on, so that's the only "sugar bowl" I know. Back in the day it was good to great, but now I think that what's left on both sides are just too jaded + the true hotties are running off to OF or other social media which has both drained the pool and inflated the sugar rates to ludicrous levels for the 4's-7's that remain. When I can get a better connection and more intimacy from a regular Kgirl or a masseuse at a fraction of the price and without any attitude, it's time to move on from SA. Who knows, maybe it will experience a renaissance but I won't hold my breath.

There's another poster I forget his handle right now, he has gone back to old school ways of just chatting up young cashiers and waitresses and hinting at sugar. I think he hands out business cards too. I may try that route. LOL I think the passive guys who have no game and no balls to use escorts who actually call themselves escorts instead of "sugar babies" (simps) are still on SA chasing a dwindling crop of increasingly cynical talent and the prices are going insane as a result, so the better values now require some legwork like tracking them down on social medial and chatting them up, or even going old school in person. Or if you want to just order up some pussy then stick with Kgirls and maybe Humaniplex. My two cents.The asking $ per value of SB on SA just don't seem to compute to me from a perspective of "service" provided vs what can be had from the pros which is already YMMV. I suppose the relationship for SD & SB is unique for some that can & are willing to pony up & pay the girls on SA. I've tried SA while traveled to SE Asia, its the same except the rate and exchange rate is favorable for USD spenders. Only had one lucky draw of a PSE nympho and the rest is same as Chupacabra described, demanding a bunch and putting out minimal effort.

What other online sources to find the UTR gems? May be stick to the pros to save time and frustration.

MidnightDabber
03-29-24, 02:42
Is the era of easy sugaring over? I discovered SA 9 years ago and it seemed much better. Anyone have success on other venues like hinge or SA or ig? SA was great for married guys. Harder to do on social media.

Still I did find a real college grad student type from ucla and it didn't last too long but it was within the last month. A lot more trans, not into that. Seems bleak. Where the good ones went I don't know. I am not sure its OF because all the SBs I know who did the OF thing ended up quitting quickly. Hopefully they ban tiktok LOL.

FarFarAway
03-29-24, 10:11
I spent yesterday morning in the FC w / the instagram model I've posted about before. Early 30's, gorgeous, smoking slender fit body, European, blond. When I met her I offered her my max, 500, and she thought that was overly generous. Not the scenario many here complain about. So how did I fall into this? I treat her like someone I want to date, not someone I just want to fuck. And, one of the biggest issues I hear from the quality women I contact on the site, I always use a cover and I have current STD tests. Being nice to them goes a long long way. I don't think this can be faked.

She has no visible means of support, and she is a wild spender. She just got a cosmetic procedure that I am sure cost many many thousands, but that $ didn't come from me. I presume she must have some amazing benefactor that *is* giving her the crazy $ that many girls are requesting of you complainers. She will drive to whatever part of southern California I am working in, away from my home base for safety, to meet me in the FC. Yesterday, I spent an inordinately long time w / her riding me, she has the most pneumatic, perky, firm breasts that I absolutely relished viewing with her on top.

FarFarAway
03-29-24, 13:54
Is the era of easy sugaring over? I discovered SA 9 years ago and it seemed much better. Anyone have success on other venues like hinge or SA or ig? SA was great for married guys. Harder to do on social media.

Still I did find a real college grad student type from ucla and it didn't last too long but it was within the last month. A lot more trans, not into that. Seems bleak. Where the good ones went I don't know. I am not sure its OF because all the SBs I know who did the OF thing ended up quitting quickly. Hopefully they ban tiktok LOL.Your headline is clearly not correct.

There are definitely non-pros on seeking, because I am finding plenty of POTs who are, and sometimes getting them in the boat. As others have said many times before me, everyone gets the sugarbowl they are looking for. If you really want a non-pro, the only way to find one is to be a patron for non-pros, and as soon as you find out you are dealing w / a pro, even one who is under the radar, move on.

I have restrictions on my sugaring (a warden, with corresponding budgetary limits), if I did not, I would be like a kid in a candy store.

HollywoodGuy
03-31-24, 14:17
Hopefully they ban tiktok LOL.Tiktok probably has the most hot young girls I have seen anywhere. And they will speak to you. Currently have one I met there. The biggest issue with tiktok is going to be their location. The girl I have is an NP (so no cash sugar). But by the time you add in airfare and dating costs its still an expense. But well worth the money I spend. Maybe $$ a day but I have her for like 3 and 4 days at a time. At least two sessions a day. Lot of work though with chatting etc.

Large Ess
03-31-24, 15:06
https://members.seeking.com/member/8a493165-811e-48b7-aef4-17ad3158d603

Everything covered. Didn't talk about $.

BigPersian
03-31-24, 21:21
Tiktok probably has the most hot young girls I have seen anywhere. And they will speak to you. Currently have one I met there. The biggest issue with tiktok is going to be their location. The girl I have is an NP (so no cash sugar). But by the time you add in airfare and dating costs its still an expense. But well worth the money I spend. Maybe $$ a day but I have her for like 3 and 4 days at a time. At least two sessions a day. Lot of work though with chatting etc.HG, how are you opening these women on Tik Tok and what did you search to get your algorithm to give you women seeking an SD?

FarFarAway
04-01-24, 14:43
https://members.seeking.com/member/8a493165-811e-48b7-aef4-17ad3158d603

Everything covered. Didn't talk about $.Is she Indian? I have that on my bucket list.

HollywoodGuy
04-01-24, 15:28
https://members.seeking.com/member/8a493165-811e-48b7-aef4-17ad3158d603

Everything covered. Didn't talk about $.Just your type. Good score.

HollywoodGuy
04-01-24, 15:33
HG, how are you opening these women on Tik Tok and what did you search to get your algorithm to give you women seeking an SD?Make a profile that has a leading user name. Like LosAngelesSugarDaddy or not. Then just start scrolling the videos that hit your FYP. Once you see a girl that is your type, follow her and like maybe 3 of her videos. Leave a brief comment like you look amazing or love your outfit. Try to leave your comments on posts that have as few comments as possible so it gets noticed.

Only follow girls that are right in your demographic. Do this until you are following at least 100 girls. BTW you do not need to leave any content of your own. At the bottom of most of the videos you will see a hashtag # that will say something like #asiangirls or #yogagirls or #prettyblackgirls. Search that and find some more girls in your demographic.

At this point tiktok will recognize your preferences and start delivering more similar content to your FYP. If you get sidetracked and start watching a lot of videos about politics or food you will also start seeing more of those videos. Have a real pic or at least one that shows you are older.

Girls will start to follow you back. You can only DM girls that follow you back. Never ask a girl to follow you, this is considered lame. You can add some text to your profile that may give a hint of your intentions. Just add a little. Sometimes random people will leave a comment on your comment. Never reply to those. In fact I don't even read mine (unless it is the creator). But if it is a hot girl I will start to like a few more of her videos. But never like more than 3 at a time. Doing that is like love bombing and also considered simping. Which may or may not work for you. I advise against it.

If a girl really wants to talk to you she will follow you and then DM you. Or you can DM her once she starts following. Also you will get a ton of bots and scammers following you even if you have no content posted. Remove all the followers that do not meet your demographic. Mostly the DM's will start out very brief like hi or how are you or where are you located. Then just go from there.

The girl I am seeing now and who is officially my GF lives in another state. I flew her in for a 3 day weekend after about 2 months of txting and some facetime. It just happened to go really well. But she is in my demographic and we are a personality match on a deep level. I will be seeing her again later this month or next month. This particular girl is not an SB (although she told me she has only dated older guys since she was 17). She has a good job and is still in school. Aside from the ticket, some meals and a sexy outfit I got in advance on shein to fuck her in, no other money was spent.

One of the downsides is that many times they will not be in your area. The investment in time is a lot. So if that's not on your agenda this will never work for you. Admittedly I got lucky, but I put in the work. I was not on there looking to meet girls but as I gained experience I could see the potential. Girls in the 18-28 range meet most of their dates on social media these days. So for them it is pretty natural. And I have turned down more than a few pro SB's as well. Mostly because they were not in my area.

FirstClass1
04-01-24, 21:38
https://members.whatsyourprice.com/offers/new

I'm getting offers from girls from whatsyourprice.com, anyone with experience with the girls on this SD clone?It's the same business model as Secret Benefits: paying to unlock messages, with the cost being determined by the negotiated price for the meet and greet. It's owned by the same company as SA, and many girls on SA also make profiles on WYP.

DavidTheSancho
04-02-24, 06:15
https://members.seeking.com/member/8a493165-811e-48b7-aef4-17ad3158d603

Everything covered. Didn't talk about $.Careful. Little image search sleuthing shows that she's either a pro or this is a fake profile.

SeanTime53
04-02-24, 12:05
Careful. Little image search sleuthing shows that she's either a pro or this is a fake profile.Please share more.

HollywoodGuy
04-02-24, 13:42
My subscription is scheduled for cancelation in a few days. Just got this today.

UnknownSD
04-02-24, 19:53
My subscription is scheduled for cancelation in a few days. Just got this today.Share the code, not the image. The image is useless.

HollywoodGuy
04-02-24, 21:26
Share the code, not the image. The image is useless.Didn't get a code. The point is... if put your profile on pause, before it even takes effect you get this offer.

UnknownSD
04-03-24, 09:43
Didn't get a code. The point is... if put your profile on pause, before it even takes effect you get this offer.If you follow through with the screens and get to the checkout page, the code is in the URL string. They always offer 20% or 33% off now when your membership is about to expire or already expired.

FabioAldeaDiaz
04-03-24, 22:35
What type of prepaid card do you recommend?

Like where do you get a prepaid that it is certain it will work with Seeking?

Thanks.

Boobman76
04-04-24, 00:12
Share the code, not the image. The image is useless.The code is VWO33 COM. No spaces. I've been using it for awhile now. It doesn't seem to expire.

UnknownSD
04-04-24, 13:52
The code is VWO33 COM. No spaces. I've been using it for awhile now. It doesn't seem to expire.That's the same code I posted before. It's usually good for 3-4 months or until they change their promotions.

UnknownSD
04-04-24, 13:55
What type of prepaid card do you recommend?

Like where do you get a prepaid that it is certain it will work with Seeking?

Thanks.Just use the Vanilla prepaid Visa card. You can get it online or at any supermarket or Target. You can try it with the $100 prepaid card first. If it doesn't work, then you need to get one that's higher amount like $200 or $500. Read my previous post on prepaid cards which explains it.

Mac Eat Bright
04-06-24, 05:49
Have talked with her, and it looks like she has a perfect body shape, and her profile feels authentic. But she is only asking for 6 k monthly allowance and non-negotiation. There is no exception for anything separately or each time. If anyone gets lucky or good at bargaining, let us know LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/acf6bb7d-082b-4c7e-9be1-901b597468f7

DogTown997
04-07-24, 20:48
Have talked with her, and it looks like she has a perfect body shape, and her profile feels authentic. But she is only asking for 6 k monthly allowance and non-negotiation. There is no exception for anything separately or each time. If anyone gets lucky or good at bargaining, let us know LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/acf6bb7d-082b-4c7e-9be1-901b597468f7Thats not worth anywhere near 6 K a month & all the pics of her are from Paris, I ask there for a Local pic before I move forward.

FarFarAway
04-09-24, 00:39
It is important to keep up w / what is happening on the facial recognition websites regarding your own OpSec. I have a photo w / the face dotted out that I usually provide to POTs once I decide there's a chance. The last time I checked, it did not trigger anything on the two main sites, facecheck and pimeyes. However, I ran that photo through both sites today. Nothing on one, but on the other, it picked up a public photo (that has been out on the web for more than 18 months). IDK why it hadn't been caught earlier but it was today. I went through the process of that site to specify that I didn't want to be on their hit list. This is possible for both, you don't need to give up too much personal info, and it is worth it in my view.

BTW, facecheck has converted to a paid service, however, you can still run searches, you just can't easily get any info if a picture has a hit.

FarFarAway
04-09-24, 12:40
Is this girl for real in a wheelchair?

FarFarAway
04-11-24, 16:47
Multiple profiles using the same girl's photos. How lazy can a scammer get?

Pdxdtf
04-11-24, 17:05
GorgeousGirl: White blonde girl in her late 20's. She's visiting LA for a week and staying near Beverly Hills. She's looking for 1 k ppm. From her profile photos, her looks are an 8/9 and her body is an 8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/27d82252-38d6-4f6b-bcd4-757ab738fde0

Jaeink999: Korean girl in her mid-20's. She lives in Orange County. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b9193253-af8e-4cc9-a1d3-bedd3eeca4e4

Bethleo: White girl in her late 20's. She's short at 5'2" and has prognathism with a longer face. She currently works at a Gentlemen's Club as a waitress. She lives near Hollywood. Her looks are a 6/7 and her body is a 6/7. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bbc9e992-54d9-48ac-9a51-cf410a8b88cf

Maryhoney: She's a 21-year-old white blonde girl currently in college. She doesn't live in LA but out of state. She's not slim as described on her profile but actually thick and has a few extra pounds / overweight. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 5.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b708f240-8522-4c50-8588-626787eba4f7

FunAndFocused: Eastern European white blonde girl in her late 20's. Her photos are accurate. Her body is slightly curvy with a bigger ass. Her looks are a 6/7 and her body is a 5/6. Allowance negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/71f50382-635a-46ad-a4d6-625933ae8cc1

BeautifulMadame: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/31a4b545-a426-476d-a85b-78137c0f8a91

NiceGurl: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7227a862-e55f-4b70-8e30-b229d1a63830

Ava_k917: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/59ee1818-9f35-4c5c-af3b-97424600ed06

Hannahxo: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0fd1ad64-aa24-440a-a453-b677a44088a7

Cutenspicy69: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5c4a94c0-5dff-4d75-b45f-36ce2b5655b8

SouthernBelleLA: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/676d224c-5077-4f16-881c-e721e1f19298

GingerzOcean: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/24e70af0-2545-4871-b9b1-e751316ebb27

Missthing645: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5b426289-04ff-48d9-bea5-b05774c47227Did you see funandfocused? I'm supposed to play with her on Monday night. I'm hoping I can give her multiple creampies.

FarFarAway
04-12-24, 20:07
Most of the girls who have wish lists have this on them.

CuriousVaMan
04-13-24, 00:46
Yea, I had an SB who had a "Rose. " It applies gentle suction to the clit. . .
Thought it was God awful purse until I clicked on your picture.


Most of the girls who have wish lists have this on them.

TopGun9
04-13-24, 11:50
Most of the girls who have wish lists have this on them.YES 100%.

I have made so many girls cum so hard and fast with that little 'rose'.

Every guy should have it in their toys bag.

Alkalinedio
04-14-24, 13:06
Yes, highly recommend.

I used this during the pandemic when SA was littered with cuties on there. I would tell them I would bring a surprise and say just try this, even if we don't do anything let me make you cum with this. A drink, little kissing and then I would pull this out, almost all came except for one and it almost always led to sex. Once they were turned on, it was game on.

Great investment, I would wash it and just say it was brand new every time LOL.

Stay safe.

AD.


Most of the girls who have wish lists have this on them.

Boobman76
04-15-24, 02:57
Great investment, I would wash it and just say it was brand new every time LOL.

This is one of the funniest, and most disgusting things I've read on here.

EvilTmp
04-15-24, 09:48
This is one of the funniest, and most disgusting things I've read on here.How is it different than you being the 3rd SD she sees that day? That's most 'exclusive' SBs.

Murrican
04-15-24, 10:11
How is it different than you being the 3rd SD she sees that day? That's most 'exclusive' SBs.I've been seeking long enough to know that many of the fresh new girls are not fresh and new at all. I always see the same girls with new accounts under a new name.

Two weeks ago I reached out to a girl in Mexico since I was going to be there. She reminded me that we had, in fact, already met and had sex a few years earlier under her old name. That was more than a little embarrassing. I couldn't bring myself to respond.

UnknownSD
04-15-24, 11:12
Did you see funandfocused? I'm supposed to play with her on Monday night. I'm hoping I can give her multiple creampies.She's very open to many things. Enjoy! Have fun with her!

UnknownSD
04-15-24, 11:22
I've been seeking long enough to know that many of the fresh new girls are not fresh and new at all. I always see the same girls with new accounts under a new name.

Two weeks ago I reached out to a girl in Mexico since I was going to be there. She reminded me that we had, in fact, already met and had sex a few years earlier under her old name. That was more than a little embarrassing. I couldn't bring myself to respond.Yes, most of the new girls with new profiles on SA are not new. They're just recycling and coming back and creating new profiles as you can see in my past SB reviews.

Gidden Lade
04-15-24, 12:37
I've been seeking long enough to know that many of the fresh new girls are not fresh and new at all. I always see the same girls with new accounts under a new name.

Two weeks ago I reached out to a girl in Mexico since I was going to be there. She reminded me that we had, in fact, already met and had sex a few years earlier under her old name. That was more than a little embarrassing. I couldn't bring myself to respond.Don't beat yourself up. It's amazing how easy it is to forget a chick from the past. Especially in this kind of game where there's no emotional attachment, assuming that's the case. I've even forgotten about civilian gals that I've been with; only to remember them later when something jogs my memory. It's kind of funny in a way, especially when it's one that I was hung up on while I was with her. It's kind of a life lesson that shows you truly can get over any chick if you allow yourself the time & space to do so.

I hooked up with an escort once and did not realize I had been with her about a year earlier. The only way I found out was by her reminding me after the deed was done. In my defense, she had gained a little weight, but the bottom line is she was just the lady of that particular evening. We both kind of laughed it off and once more went our separate ways.

I'm sure your Mexican SB won't care either as long as you're giving her what she wants. Don't be embarrassed, go have a good time.

Lexx1
04-15-24, 15:38
How is it different than you being the 3rd SD she sees that day? That's most 'exclusive' SBs.Yup. I do the same with this nice purple vibrator for my girls. LOL I keep the packaging for it in good shape and clean it really well with antibacterial soap. Then right back in the box and ready for the next girl. LOL.

And that's why I let my Seeking subscription expire. To many recycled girls but mainly not enough fresh young girls in the 18-20 range. I'm doing my own thing now in the P4 P game. And still keeping busy with my stable of long established babies.

Yep don't kid yourself thinking your exclusive with that baby. They could have multiple daddies they're tapping. Just like the multiple babies I have on rotation. I've even had babies that were married and I'd be tapping that ass while hubby is away. Just the nature of the game.

FarFarAway
04-15-24, 17:09
How is it different than you being the 3rd SD she sees that day? That's most 'exclusive' SBs.Speak for yourself. As is often discussed here, guys can find whatever sugarbowl they are looking for. If you are basically going w / mostly under-the-radar escorts, who definitely are on seeking, yeah, that is what you should expect. That isn't the only way to operate on the site, it isn't the way I have operated specifically, and I've not had relationships w / women from seeking who I ever suspected were seeing anyone but me.

Lexx1
04-15-24, 18:01
If you think you're exclusive 100% with a baby from any sugar site then you are lying to yourself. There's no way for you to know that unless you are with the girl 24 hours, 7 days a week. You can do all the "research" you think will tell you that she is exclusive. And it doesn't matter if she's a true first timer and fresh. This doesn't apply just to Utrs / Pros. I'd be very naive to think a baby is 100% exclusive to me. Shoot people that are married and have boyfriend / girlfriends cheat. Why would I think a girl I'm basically paying for would be only seeing me. Sugaring is usually a no strings attached type of relationship. You are open to see others by default. So you know going in that you don't have to be exclusive.

While men lie more than women. Women are much better at it and sneakier than us. They know how to cover their tracks. While we thinking were slick and won't get caught. Get caught. So don't fall for the charm and sweet talk that you are the only one. Women will tell you anything you want to hear as long as they're getting what they want. Especially one that's trying to get paid. While we're paying for a fantasy. Real life isn't a fantasy world.

HollywoodGuy
04-16-24, 00:34
Yep don't kid yourself thinking your exclusive with that baby. They could have multiple daddies they're tapping.And if they didn't they would never go for my low ball offers in a million years. The guys that pay $$$ to 1 k definitely pave the way for me to slide in on the cheap. Not always the case. But more times than I can count.

Murrican
04-16-24, 09:09
If you think you're exclusive 100% with a baby from any sugar site then you are lying to yourself. There's no way for you to know that unless you are with the girl 24 hours, 7 days a week. You can do all the "research" you think will tell you that she is exclusive..Totally. I chuckle whenever I read stories of guys referring to their girls on seeking as "she's now my girlfriend. ".

If you paid for it, and you did, it's like a table at a restaurant. It's yours while you're there but you have no idea who was there before you or after you, even on the same day. The waiter might call you by name, and say welcome back, and refer to the table as your special table. But only a fool thinks that means it's his table, or the waiter cares, or that he doesn't say the same thing to the next regular.

Murrican
04-16-24, 09:12
Don't beat yourself up. It's amazing how easy it is to forget a chick from the past. Especially in this kind of game where there's no emotional attachment, assuming that's the case. L.This particular past date went badly though.

All normal till I asked to go anal. She said ok. We did. Then she spent the rest of the night feeling awful about it like she'd given up her virginity. I was afraid she was going to call Sancho to kick my ass or something. I bailed on my airbnb the next night just to be safe.

So I was kind of embarrassed to have not remembered her. It was a pretty traumatic night. But years ago.

FarFarAway
04-16-24, 10:05
I'll just repeat that I know a whole lot about anyone I get involved with, and I am sure I am not seeing the sort of woman who is going to be flat backing a bunch of guys. There is a whole bunch of what you fellows are referring to going on on seeking, I have no doubt of that. These are girls who used to be on craigslist or backpage, and when those got shut down, they needed some place to go. They came to seeking, and their patrons followed them. That is a risk to the site, and the reason there are guys on here all the time crying about how they got banned. I applaud that, because the sort of gal I am looking for, she can only be found on seeking, and I want to continue to have a place I can find that sort of person.

There is a large cadre of women on the site who are interested but too shy, or have challenging logistics, or other hindrances to meeting, and they are very very hard for me to get into the boat (though I usually add about 20 per year to my 'life list' When I succeed, it almost always the sort of experience I am looking for (but there are almisconceptions and miscommunications from any two people planning on doing something together). But I have never believed someone I saw yesterday went on to see others that day, or even week. People can play in the gutter on seeking, but they don't have to do it that way. I have bowl buddies with the same mindset, and experience.

Lexx1
04-16-24, 12:55
Totally. I chuckle whenever I read stories of guys referring to their girls on seeking as "she's now my girlfriend. ".

If you paid for it, and you did, it's like a table at a restaurant. It's yours while you're there but you have no idea who was there before you or after you, even on the same day. The waiter might call you by name, and say welcome back, and refer to the table as your special table. But only a fool thinks that means it's his table, or the waiter cares, or that he doesn't say the same thing to the next regular.Great analogy. Guys think they know everything about a girl. How? Did you hire a PI to follow her? Are you stalking her? LOL That's some pretty creepy stuff. There is NO WAY you can know everything. Unless you're doing creepy paranoid stuff like that. A sugar arrangement is for fun and paying for sex. Some dudes take it way to serious and act like the girl is their actual gf or exclusive. Dude she isn't. You don't pay for love.

Doesn't matter where the girl comes from. I've said this in the past. Nonpro girls that were on Craigslist are the same type of girls that are on Seeking. The only difference is you're paying a lot more on Seeking for the same girl. A baby is a nonpro! Period! And a nonpro when she is fresh. Once a girl starts coming back repeatedly and becomes a career sugarbaby. I have another name for that girl. And it's not nonpro. Once you start making it a habit to be paid for sex. Then you're a pro.

FarFarAway
04-16-24, 13:48
Great analogy. Guys think they know everything about a girl. How? Did you hire a PI to follow her? Are you stalking her? LOL That's some pretty creepy stuff. There is NO WAY you can know everything. Unless you're doing creepy paranoid stuff like that. A sugar arrangement is for fun and paying for sex. Some dudes take it way to serious and act like the girl is their actual gf or exclusive. Dude she isn't. You don't pay for love.

Doesn't matter where the girl comes from. I've said this in the past. Nonpro girls that were on Craigslist are the same type of girls that are on Seeking. The only difference is you're paying a lot more on Seeking for the same girl. A baby is a nonpro! Period! And a nonpro when she is fresh. Once a girl starts coming back repeatedly and becomes a career sugarbaby. I have another name for that girl. And it's not nonpro. Once you start making it a habit to be paid for sex. Then you're a pro.You know everything about every sugar relationship guys on the site have? Wow, your omniscience is magnificent.

I have had several long term relationships from the seeking site. None of those girls / women went back on the site after we stopped meeting. All are still 'friendly' w / me. I would never have called them a GF or whatever; I have my head on straight, and know exactly what I am doing. I and several guys IK who are on the site have had relationships that are more like affairs than escorts.

Your view of what is possible seems impoverished, which entitles you to sympathy. And, this is a point I have made before. IK what having an SO is like, and you definitely *do* pay for love when you have one like mine. And my "ppm" would pale in comparison to what people are giving SBs.

It is stylish for some people to look down on others here who don't have the same worldview. Too much of that in the political realm. No need for it. Like I said, you do you, but that doesn't mean there aren't other ways.

Lexx1
04-16-24, 17:23
You know everything about every sugar relationship guys on the site have? Wow, your omniscience is magnificent.

I have had several long term relationships from the seeking site. None of those girls / women went back on the site after we stopped meeting. All are still 'friendly' w / me. I would never have called them a GF or whatever; I have my head on straight, and know exactly what I am doing. I and several guys IK who are on the site have had relationships that are more like affairs than escorts.

Your view of what is possible seems impoverished, which entitles you to sympathy. And, this is a point I have made before. IK what having an SO is like, and you definitely *do* pay for love when you have one like mine. And my "ppm" would pale in comparison to what people are giving SBs.

It is stylish for some people to look down on others here who don't have the same worldview. Too much of that in the political realm. No need for it. Like I said, you do you, but that doesn't mean there aren't other ways.Never said I knew everything. You seem to think you know everything about the babies you see. If you think about it I'm actually saying I don't know everything. Especially with a baby and what she's doing when I'm not tapping that ass. I don't worry about it. That's her life. And I live mine after the fun. We go our separate ways until the next meetup. Experiences not only in the P4 P world and also real life having a real gf have taught me everything is not always as it seems. Sure you pay for love but it's in an indirect way. Courting a woman, dinners, gifts, movies, flowers, etc. It's not the same though as paying directly for pussy.

I always do me. Because I know what I'm talking about. You're a monger just like the rest of us here. You can sugarcoat it and call yourself a daddy or whatever. But whether you cruise the streets for pussy, find it online in any form, massage parlors, etc. At basics you're a monger. Just that I know not to be delusional and blind that these girls I pay for sex. Are in any way exclusive to me. Once you've paid for the booty and the meet is over. That's it. You go your separate ways and each of you is free to do whatever you want.

Feel free to respond because you probably will. But I've said what I said and done with this subject. No sympathy needed at all.

Murrican
04-16-24, 17:27
Great analogy. Guys think they know everything about a girl. How? Did you hire a PI to follow her? Are you stalking her? LOL That's some pretty creepy stuff. There is NO WAY you can know everything. Unless you're doing creepy paranoid stuff like that. A sugar arrangement is for fun and paying for sex. Some dudes take it way to serious and act like the girl is their actual gf or exclusive. Dude she isn't. You don't pay for love.
You know how I know girls lie? It's not because I hired a private investigator. It's because I lie every time! About my name, about my occupation, about my backstory. About how many times I've done this (Probably 50-75 but every girl hears that it's my first or second or third). And you know what 75 percent of the girls tell me? That this is their first or second or third sugar daddy. Amazing. I seem to always get the new girls. They are always sweet and normal and students and baristas and retail workers. Never career babies. Lucky me. And lucky them because they're linking up with a guy who has only done this a few times before and is totally not just a john looking for non-pro civvy action. Everyone'a lucky day every time I meet a sugar baby. I have an almost uninterrupted string of good fortune. Maybe it's time to buy a lottery ticket. Either that or start to assume girls lie as much as I do. Which they do.

FarFarAway
04-16-24, 18:50
"If you think you're exclusive 100% with a baby from any sugar site then you are lying to yourself. ".

This clearly is saying that you know everything about every other guy's arrangement. You know nothing about me, you know nothing about the women I've seen. Provably false statement.

Name calling. Wow. I graduated junior high many decades ago.

I have offered an opinion earlier, the guys here who whine about simps, and complain about their treatment by seeking, and make categorical statements are those who haven't got any good relationship IRL. You guys judge who's who.


Never said I knew everything. You seem to think you know everything about the babies you see. If you think about it I'm actually saying I don't know everything. Especially with a baby and what she's doing when I'm not tapping that ass. I don't worry about it. That's her life. And I live mine after the fun. We go our separate ways until the next meetup. Experiences not only in the P4 P world and also real life having a real gf have taught me everything is not always as it seems. Sure you pay for love but it's in an indirect way. Courting a woman, dinners, gifts, movies, flowers, etc. It's not the same though as paying directly for pussy.

Feel free to respond because you probably will. But I've said what I said and done with this subject. No sympathy needed at all.

FarFarAway
04-16-24, 20:36
Everyone, men and women, who is playing the arrangement game, needs to be able to keep themselves safe. From crime, from violence, from unwanted disclosure, from extortion. I don't begrudge a girl from having her own alter ego. I have a sugar story too, and name, and all that. Call it my op-sec. I expect no less from others I come into contact with, though I must say, some are pretty cavalier about this, and it is quite easy to find out a lot of personal information about them. There is no utility of that when everything is OK. However, some of these girls are bat-shit crazy and will threaten. It is good to have info to balance the scales.

Read the op-sec thread for Richmond, I related a story there. Because my op-sec / sugar story is iron-clad, there wasn't much she could really do to me. The way it should be. And I don't do anything crazy like go bare and assume the girl is telling the truth about being on BC. I guess once a month, on one sugar thread or another, you read a girl is telling a daddy he knocked her up and she needs $ to take care of it.

All that doesn't mean you can lie to someone about your bedroom routine, or your history w / STDs (which I prove, and demand reciprocation). They aren't the same.

Why is google voice free? It is essential to my op-sec. I am glad it is, but.

Lexx1
04-16-24, 20:56
"If you think you're exclusive 100% with a baby from any sugar site then you are lying to yourself. ".

This clearly is saying that you know everything about every other guy's arrangement. You know nothing about me, you know nothing about the women I've seen. Provably false statement.

Name calling. Wow. I graduated junior high many decades ago.

I have offered an opinion earlier, the guys here who whine about simps, and complain about their treatment by seeking, and make categorical statements are those who haven't got any good relationship IRL. You guys judge who's who.I said I was done with this. Sounds like you're in high school saying that I'm name calling. I wasn't. Just stating the obvious.

Keep up the good work with your exclusive babies! lol

Gidden Lade
04-16-24, 21:53
This particular past date went badly though.

All normal till I asked to go anal. She said ok. We did. Then she spent the rest of the night feeling awful about it like she'd given up her virginity. I was afraid she was going to call Sancho to kick my ass or something. I bailed on my airbnb the next night just to be safe.

So I was kind of embarrassed to have not remembered her. It was a pretty traumatic night. But years ago.I see your point now for sure.

CuriousVaMan
04-18-24, 01:28
OK guys. Many of your exploits are legendary, and FFA, I've enjoyed your posts since reading the Richmond board a couple years ago now.

There's a sugar bowl for every participant. Let's get back to discussing procuring pussy!

Alkalinedio
04-18-24, 02:01
& Cost effective! No way I'm going to spend almost 100 on a Rose for every girl I met during the pandemic and after, it was a great investment. I ended up giving it to one girl I think I promised it to her after a good fxxx session LOL, then I got one more and recycled it, always washed it very good.

I had the other clit stimulator high end one, I would keep in the box. If one didn't work the other did, except for the one girl who could just not cum, I think she was nervous in my car.

Good times.

AD.


This is one of the funniest, and most disgusting things I've read on here.

FarFarAway
04-18-24, 09:54
Everyone, men and women, who is playing the arrangement game, needs to be able to keep themselves safe. From crime, from violence, from unwanted disclosure, from extortion. I don't begrudge a girl from having her own alter ego. I have a sugar story too, and name, and all that. Call it my op-sec. I expect no less from others I come into contact with, though I must say, some are pretty cavalier about this, and it is quite easy to find out a lot of personal information about them. There is no utility of that when everything is OK. However, some of these girls are bat-shit crazy and will threaten. It is good to have info to balance the scales.

Read the op-sec thread for Richmond, I related a story there. Because my op-sec / sugar story is iron-clad, there wasn't much she could really do to me. The way it should be. And I don't do anything crazy like go bare and assume the girl is telling the truth about being on BC. I guess once a month, on one sugar thread or another, you read a girl is telling a daddy he knocked her up and she needs $ to take care of it.

All that doesn't mean you can lie to someone about your bedroom routine, or your history w / STDs (which I prove, and demand reciprocation). They aren't the same.

Why is google voice free? It is essential to my op-sec. I am glad it is, but.Oops, my bad, it is the opsec thread for Northern Virginia.

FarFarAway
04-18-24, 09:55
& Cost effective! No way I'm going to spend almost 100 on a Rose for every girl I met during the pandemic and after, it was a great investment. I ended up giving it to one girl I think I promised it to her after a good fxxx session LOL, then I got one more and recycled it, always washed it very good.

I had the other clit stimulator high end one, I would keep in the box. If one didn't work the other did, except for the one girl who could just not cum, I think she was nervous in my car.

Good times.

AD.No kidding, it costs a c-note? I had no idea. I have never gone to the extent of clicking on the thing to find out what seeking charges for it. IK most of that stuff has a very high markup, if you actually wanted to get a girl something off their wish list, it would be smart to just go buy it yourself and hand it to her.

Lexx1
04-18-24, 13:49
& Cost effective! No way I'm going to spend almost 100 on a Rose for every girl I met during the pandemic and after, it was a great investment. I ended up giving it to one girl I think I promised it to her after a good fxxx session LOL, then I got one more and recycled it, always washed it very good.

I had the other clit stimulator high end one, I would keep in the box. If one didn't work the other did, except for the one girl who could just not cum, I think she was nervous in my car.

Good times.

AD.Good stuff man. LOL I've only given away two vibrators over the many years to two different girls because they loved it so much. Supposedly they didn't have one. But after I started just cleaning them well and repackaging for the next girl. And just telling them I'll hold onto it till our next meetup. They can get pricy. The rose is available directly from the manufacturer's site for half that. $50 Which I still think is pricy for what it does. Really should only be around $30. And there are many copies of it, that ladies that have reviewed them, say works better. And even a version with a thrusting dildo attached. For double the pleasure. LOL I never buy any gifts off the seeking wish list. I may get inspiration from the girls list. But I always buy elsewhere because it's way cheaper.

Alkalinedio
04-18-24, 21:08
That's too funny!

Good stuff. Maybe it was a little less than 100, shipping and tax etc.

LOL, I got the same rose 2. 0 with the vibrator attached with a cord. My housekeeper found it one time, was embarrassing haha.

The other one I highly recommend (very pricy, but works bigtime) is the Satisfyer PRO 2, that one has like 10 settings. Get your Sugarbabies on cloud 9 with this bad boy! Good way to break them in for Greek if that's your thing, they get so turned on by the O's then convince them to try backdoor "just the tip".

Happy Hunting Brethren.

Stay safe,

AD.


Good stuff man. LOL I've only given away two vibrators over the many years to two different girls because they loved it so much. Supposedly they didn't have one. But after I started just cleaning them well and repackaging for the next girl. And just telling them I'll hold onto it till our next meetup. They can get pricy. The rose is available directly from the manufacturer's site for half that. $50 Which I still think is pricy for what it does. Really should only be around $30. And there are many copies of it, that ladies that have reviewed them, say works better. And even a version with a thrusting dildo attached. For double the pleasure. LOL I never buy any gifts off the seeking wish list. I may get inspiration from the girls list. But I always buy elsewhere because it's way cheaper.

Alkalinedio
04-18-24, 21:11
Sorry didn't clarify.

I got all the toys off the Adam and Eve site, they ship discreet and completely agree, no markup.

They come with a cool USB charger, make sure to plug in before bed the night before so it's full. Had a SB one time in the backseat legs spread having fun, and the battery died! Rookie move after that, charge that puppy all night!

AD.


No kidding, it costs a c-note? I had no idea. I have never gone to the extent of clicking on the thing to find out what seeking charges for it. IK most of that stuff has a very high markup, if you actually wanted to get a girl something off their wish list, it would be smart to just go buy it yourself and hand it to her.

Lexx1
04-18-24, 21:59
That's too funny!

Good stuff. Maybe it was a little less than 100, shipping and tax etc.

LOL, I got the same rose 2. 0 with the vibrator attached with a cord. My housekeeper found it one time, was embarrassing haha.

The other one I highly recommend (very pricy, but works bigtime) is the Satisfyer PRO 2, that one has like 10 settings. Get your Sugarbabies on cloud 9 with this bad boy! Good way to break them in for Greek if that's your thing, they get so turned on by the O's then convince them to try backdoor "just the tip".

Happy Hunting Brethren.

Stay safe,

AD.LOL Housekeeper found it? Oh man. That must've been interesting.

I'll check that vibrator out. But I prefer using my oral talents on a girls ass. Of course it has to be clean. But nothing like burying your face into a sweet young thangs ass from the back and eating that ahole and pussy. Freakin heaven! LOL.

I like that you have fun in your car. I've had countless young honeys buck naked in my ride giving me head and also fvcking. Front seats, back seat, door open and standing outside with them doggystyle on the seat ass out the door. It's a little kinky messing around in a car. And also saves on not getting an expensive room sometimes. That you won't always do overnights in.

Stay safe as well man.

StevenWalker
04-20-24, 18:41
Had to fire my ABG for not having enough rizz. Man women these days have no game LOL. It used to be different 6-7 years ago.

Any ABGs left on seeking? Godam.

Lexx1
04-20-24, 22:56
Had to fire my ABG for not having enough rizz. Man women these days have no game LOL. It used to be different 6-7 years ago.

Any ABGs left on seeking? Godam.Variety is the spice of life. Venture out. I like Asian girls too. But I also like Latinas, Black, White, Middle Eastern, etc. All the flavors.

StevenWalker
04-21-24, 15:29
Variety is the spice of life. Venture out. I like Asian girls too. But I also like Latinas, Black, White, Middle Eastern, etc. All the flavors.I know exactly what I want in life and nothing is going to get in the way of me accomplishing my goals.

Large Ess
04-21-24, 15:37
Any advice on this? I have had great chemistry with all other types on the site but I can't get but a few to even respond to my message that has proved very successful in the past. Appreciated.

L.

Lexx1
04-21-24, 15:47
I know exactly what I want in life and nothing is going to get in the way of me accomplishing my goals.Good for you.

I on the other hand don't get stuck on one preference of woman. Women come in so many beautiful and hot flavors. Just being stuck on one flavor is pretty boring. Sure we have preferences but I still mix it up. I love pale redheads which can be a scarcity sometimes. But man all those other colors out there are nice too.

StevenWalker
04-21-24, 20:01
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StevenWalker
04-23-24, 22:58
I'm on a rice only diet these days. Times are definitely tougher than they use to be.

Ace McNasty
04-24-24, 10:37
This is one of the funniest, and most disgusting things I've read on here.Nah, plenty of amusing and at the same time, projectile vomiting reports in every monger-centric sites. However, recycling a clit stimulator, washing it after using it on one girl, then repackaging the toy to be presented as "brand new" on the unsuspecting next girl is the stuff of internet lore. And no, who pays $100 bucks for these MadeInChina things LOL. They go on sale for less than ten dollars each, and if you have Prime Membership, can receive them next day delivery. I buy 5 of them in bulk along with replenishing my supply of Plan-B pills. My mongering and sugaring is like 90% bareback and often CIP.

I can personally attest that this pink rose works. Two hour USB charging for 60 minute non stop lapping and sucking on your girl's clit. Waterproof and I have used it when showering with her. A couple examples I have used on two of my regulars: a skinny ebony named PJ, and her Brazilian mami friend. Usually I let the girl use the rose on her clit while I DFK or suck on her tits, then fingerbang the wet hole while the electric toy goes buzz buzz. On PJ the rose never fails to make her squirt like a fire hydrant. After that, the girl is pretty much silly putty in your hands and will let you do any depraved or perverted stuff you desire on her shaking body.

Go buy one for ten bucks and surprise your SB with a rose. Just like the TV show The Bachelor LOL.

Dildo Baggens
04-24-24, 11:04
Glad you're back. I for one missed your high quality photo documentation.

Baggens.


Nah, plenty of amusing and at the same time, projectile vomiting reports in every monger-centric sites. However, recycling a clit stimulator, washing it after using it on one girl, then repackaging the toy to be presented as "brand new" on the unsuspecting next girl is the stuff of internet lore. And no, who pays $100 bucks for these MadeInChina things LOL. They go on sale for less than ten dollars each, and if you have Prime Membership, can receive them next day delivery. I buy 5 of them in bulk along with replenishing my supply of Plan-B pills. My mongering and sugaring is like 90% bareback and often CIP.

I can personally attest that this pink rose works. Two hour USB charging for 60 minute non stop lapping and sucking on your girl's clit. Waterproof and I have used it when showering with her. A couple examples I have used on two of my regulars: a skinny ebony named PJ, and her Brazilian mami friend. Usually I let the girl use the rose on her clit while I DFK or suck on her tits, then fingerbang the wet hole while the electric toy goes buzz buzz. On PJ the rose never fails to make her squirt like a fire hydrant. After that, the girl is pretty much silly putty in your hands and will let you do any depraved or perverted stuff you desire on her shaking body.

Go buy one for ten bucks and surprise your SB with a rose. Just like the TV show The Bachelor LOL.

TopGun9
04-24-24, 13:46
I can personally attest that this pink rose works. Two hour USB charging for 60 minute non stop lapping and sucking on your girl's clit. .That rose is MAGIC!

Guarantee to make any girl cum and squirt like never before.

You must have this in your monger bag of tools.

Large Ess
04-24-24, 16:46
https://members.seeking.com/member/c478ac47-95e3-4f2b-b215-f4481a0ef7b7

Pushy.

$$$ for an hour.

$$ for GFE.

Passed.

I have a Unicorn at the moment. Every hole available. Gorgeous skin and body.

Lexx1
04-24-24, 17:24
https://members.seeking.com/member/c478ac47-95e3-4f2b-b215-f4481a0ef7b7

Pushy.

$$$ for an hour.

$$ for GFE.

Passed.

I have a Unicorn at the moment. Every hole available. Gorgeous skin and body.Yup. Utr or Pro. A real nonpro / baby doesn't go by the hour. Those are pro terms. There should be no time limit. But you also don't want to be a jerk and take up the girls whole day. On the other hand with some of the crazy prices being asked. Try and get as many hours as you can. I usually spend two or three hours average with my girls. Sometimes I do overnights.

The ahole being available is nice with a girl. But it's not a deal breaker if not available for me. Not going to force a girl to have to be cool with it. I'm way more than happy with swallowing and cip with that true GFE.

Large Ess
04-24-24, 22:53
Yup. Utr or Pro. A real nonpro / baby doesn't go by the hour. Those are pro terms. There should be no time limit. But you also don't want to be a jerk and take up the girls whole day. On the other hand with some of the crazy prices being asked. Try and get as many hours as you can. I usually spend two or three hours average with my girls. Sometimes I do overnights.

The ahole being available is nice with a girl. But it's not a deal breaker if not available for me. Not going to force a girl to have to be cool with it. I'm way more than happy with swallowing and cip with that true GFE.I totally agree. She is the one who brought it up and she was undeniably turned on by it. She swallows and is probably fine with cip as she was fine with me going in uncovered all the times we have met. She got a gorgeous shapely ass and when she offered it up, I had to fulfill desire. She gives great head, taking her time and sticking her tongue everywhere.

Lexx1
04-24-24, 23:25
I totally agree. She is the one who brought it up and she was undeniably turned on by it. She swallows and is probably fine with cip as she was fine with me going in uncovered all the times we have met. She got a gorgeous shapely ass and when she offered it up, I had to fulfill desire. She gives great head, taking her time and sticking her tongue everywhere.Nice you have to love and appreciate the girls that bring up the bootyhole on their own. There are quite a few girls that love it and can actually cum from being fucked there. Definitely sounds like a keeper. Enjoy her as long as you can. Great find.

The main draw for me in finding nonpros/babies is that true GFE in bed. You have a no strings attached girl that you don't have a monogamous commitment to. But she fucks you like she's your girlfriend. Swallowing, CIP, anal sometimes, CIA, making out, all those nasty things a girl that loves you would do for you. But you're not in love. It's a sugar arrangement. And also that you don't have time limits like with a pro. I know some guys still use rubbers with these babies. Which for me defeats the whole purpose of sugaring and the GFE. But I understand that for dudes that may have a SO. You don't want to catch something or bring it home. But for us single guys that have the house to ourselves. Pure GFE man! I have been in this arrangement game for about 13 years now. And have never caught anything or gotten a girl pregnant. And that's going bare with about 98% of my girls. I think only about 2 or 3 girls over all those years asked for rubber for sex only. Bj was always bare. So if you're single. Enjoy it to the max and go raw for goodness sake. Especially with these silly prices nowadays. Make your money count!

ID2468
04-25-24, 01:11
https://members.seeking.com/member/c478ac47-95e3-4f2b-b215-f4481a0ef7b7

Pushy.

$$$ for an hour.

$$ for GFE.

Passed.

I have a Unicorn at the moment. Every hole available. Gorgeous skin and body.O_0 Those pictures are of adult actress Sarah Vandella from a few years ago. They didn't even bother using her younger pictures since the profile claims to be 23.

HollywoodGuy
04-25-24, 11:44
That rose is MAGIC!

Guarantee to make any girl cum and squirt like never before.

You must have this in your monger bag of tools.Just bought one based on all these posts. Will report back after a few demos.

FarFarAway
04-25-24, 15:19
Not.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?14265-quot-Sugar-Babies-quot-and-quot-Arrangements-quot&p=6875854&viewfull=1#post6875854.

He is my bowlbuddy, and IK for a fact what he has. IK there are many things about his setup I could not replicate, though, and most guys could not.

Alkalinedio
04-25-24, 18:59
Have fun, turns them all on!

I've even taken diff ones to MP that aren't known to do extras and I tell them, you lay down let me massage you, and whip that out 15 mins in, then they get to the point of no return and move on in! To each their own.

AD.


Just bought one based on all these posts. Will report back after a few demos.

FarFarAway
04-25-24, 20:19
Not.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?14265-quot-Sugar-Babies-quot-and-quot-Arrangements-quot&p=6875854&viewfull=1#post6875854.

He is my bowlbuddy, and IK for a fact what he has. IK there are many things about his setup I could not replicate, though, and most guys could not.It does not click through correctly. The post is #14343.

HollywoodGuy
04-25-24, 20:56
All the new seeking upgrades are crap.