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TooShay
11-20-23, 13:45
Is she Asian or latina.She's Filipino.

MambaInglewood
11-22-23, 00:24
It only took me a minute to search that tutorial you posted here. Not sure why these guys keep asking the same questions that have already been asked and answered thousands of times since Day 2 of this site. That white rectangle box on the upper right hand corner of the page is your best friend. Unfortunately the search box seems to be the loneliest feature of most hoe boards, since dudes are exceedingly averse to it.

SM has been an invaluable source of hook up for a guy like me who travels constantly for business. Hx is pretty much confined to SoCal. When I go to other states, then I use PD, Seeking, and of course, all SM platforms. You are right, tictactoe can be a source for chicks, but in my experience, IG and SC are the most active and user friendly.

In the end, you will not learn how to use SM to procure vaginas by asking here. The only way to learn SM is to whip out your phone and start using SM. A fraction of my many examples before of girls I hooked up with on SM. Some are from IG and SC, while others are from the popular sites who also use SM as another platform. Maybe you guys will recognize some of these girls who are very active on Hx and PD.Who are pic 1 and 6?

MetalKnight21
11-22-23, 00:27
Does anyone have an Asian or Indian who isn't delusional?

https://members.seeking.com/member/e865370a-5087-4cc2-9908-83a668096d24

Will only meet as a duo with her friend and wants at least 2 k per.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c28ef966-dc77-42df-91c3-cac73441344c

Asks for monthly and says she has "8 k+ monthly costs".

https://members.seeking.com/member/189b48dc-886e-41ab-83ca-65edd0c750ee

Had success with this one, she is definitely not 31 however. Pretty open minded and accommodating if you're into an older eastern European.

Fudgsicle
11-23-23, 01:05
Does anyone have an Asian or Indian who isn't delusional?

https://members.seeking.com/member/e865370a-5087-4cc2-9908-83a668096d24

Will only meet as a duo with her friend and wants at least 2 k per.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c28ef966-dc77-42df-91c3-cac73441344c

Asks for monthly and says she has "8 k+ monthly costs".

https://members.seeking.com/member/189b48dc-886e-41ab-83ca-65edd0c750ee

Had success with this one, she is definitely not 31 however. Pretty open minded and accommodating if you're into an older eastern European.Be thankful these girls only asking 4 figures LOL Sicilainsugarr asked for $30 k a month for visiting once a week LOL. I'd link her profile but she blocked me after I sent back 20 laughing emojis.

I'll be publishing my research shortly after the long weekend. Stay tuned!

Murrican
11-23-23, 10:53
Be thankful these girls only asking 4 figures LOL Sicilainsugarr asked for $30 k a month for visiting once a week LOL. I'd link her profile but she blocked me after I sent back 20 laughing emojis.

I'll be publishing my research shortly after the long weekend. Stay tuned!30 k a month? She wanted 360 k a year. A top 1 percent salary.

I have to ask, what was her story? Was she only delusional or was there something about her on her story that made her think that was even a possibility?

NutritionFacts
11-24-23, 23:08
I met up with an asian I have been talking to since before I was banned from SA. She looked really fit in pics and she was pretty fit but a bit icy / cold. Her ass was a bit too small so I am not sure if I will continue. We just did a meet and greet. Its hard to find asians now so I am not sure. She was international asian which I find harder to relate to. They seem to be more mercenary attitudes.

InterTravlr56
11-25-23, 12:09
https://members.seeking.com/member/f62a93ee-8803-42c1-b59a-9b455cd55bba

This girl is a bit ghetto. She looks like her pictures and the kitty is pretty tight. She is below the going rate and can be negotiated.What is the "going rate" to y'all. Every body has a different opinion.

Ace McNasty
11-25-23, 12:20
Be thankful these girls only asking 4 figures LOL Sicilainsugarr asked for $30 k a month for visiting once a week LOL. I'd link her profile but she blocked me after I sent back 20 laughing emojis!So this chick wants to get paid roughly the same amount that a USC-trained urologist gets paid, except hers would be tax-free. For my pee-pee doc to take home $360 K, he would have to make a pre-tax income of nearly a million bucks, depending on how good his fiduciary and tax accountant is.

30 K a month in 4 dates translates to $7,500 per FC hook up. If I had that kind of money to blow 8 grand for one vagina, I would be living in Dubai wearing a towel on my head, living in a palace with a harem full of 18-19 yo Scandinavian and Norwegian blondes. Not some delusional hoe from Los Angeles.

Shoot I fuck girls like Sicilainsugarr from Hx and PD for $200-300 all the time. Just like this girl below with her tongue out.

HehBigDick
11-26-23, 21:00
Who are pic 1 and 6?Girl from pic one is Sophieraiin on ig with 2. 7 million followers. Hard to believe that he actually got with her.

Girl from pic six is Kittiiie from Hx. People have posted her ig on here before.

Jendabaze
11-27-23, 16:09
Be thankful these girls only asking 4 figures LOL Sicilainsugarr asked for $30 k a month for visiting once a week LOL. I'd link her profile but she blocked me after I sent back 20 laughing emojis.

I'll be publishing my research shortly after the long weekend. Stay tuned!Sicilainsugarr is a stripper and asked me to come and see her. I never asked her where she worked.

RanManCan
11-27-23, 23:25
IDK, but if you're profile says you're 53 and you look a hot 27, maybe you should be nice?

"I really hate you do not really love me".

https://members.seeking.com/member/9932f626-fdc3-46b0-892e-a1e4b3b5b645

Might have been open to older than me. . . But not with hate involved.

Ace McNasty
11-28-23, 12:10
Sicilainsugarr is a stripper and asked me to come and see her. I never asked her where she worked.Well this Sicilain chick is asking a $30 K allowance per month for 4 FC dates, which roughly translates to $7,500 per encounter. And to put it perspective, attached is a picture of what you have to bring to the strip club for the privilege of your dick entering her pussy. That's 75 Benjies surrounding my 10 year old Canon Dig Cam and two brand new condoms that are BARE-ly used LOL. Shit you have to make a few trips to the ATM just to be able to fuck this delusional GPS stripper.

Speaking of which I have had a stripper SB before. Tons of chicks who work at strip clubs also have Seeking profiles. This one goes by Claire and really hot asf, some pics below. And no, my PPM with her was standard and nowhere near 8 grand!

InterTravlr56
11-28-23, 23:13
Well this Sicilain chick is asking a $30 K allowance per month for 4 FC dates, which roughly translates to $7,500 per encounter. And to put it perspective, attached is a picture of what you have to bring to the strip club for the privilege of your dick entering her pussy. That's 75 Benjies surrounding my 10 year old Canon Dig Cam and two brand new condoms that are BARE-ly used LOL. Shit you have to make a few trips to the ATM just to be able to fuck this delusional GPS stripper.

Speaking of which I have had a stripper SB before. Tons of chicks who work at strip clubs also have Seeking profiles. This one goes by Claire and really hot asf, some pics below. And no, my PPM with her was standard and nowhere near 8 grand!What is "standard" ?

HollywoodGuy
11-28-23, 23:15
Speaking of which I have had a stripper SB before. Tons of chicks who work at strip clubs also have Seeking profiles.Having dated ala SB style a few strippers I could say they cost me no more or less than any other SB. Of course there are GPS strippers just like there are GPS SB's. And like you said they frequently have seeking profiles (which is where I met all mine).

The one thing I would add is that they will be more reasonable if you meet them on seeking than in the club. As they tend to view club patrons as more desperate. In vegas quite a few mention it in their profiles. A keyword search on seeking "dancer" in L.A. brought up 260 profiles. "exotic dancer" brought up 20 profiles. I am sure many more of the "dancer" girls meant at the club.

Here is a pic from maybe 6 years ago when I was living with both of these girls at the same time (the one on the right was a stripper)

Jendabaze
11-29-23, 16:33
Be careful with Melodyluvsyou. She came to my place and backed her car into my driveway which was the first red flag.

She promised a lot on text but didn't let me touch her while we were talking on the couch, second red flag.

She said she wanted to start with massaging me and asked me to take off my clothes, but she refused to take off her cloths, third red flag.

She asked me for money first before starting the massage, fourth red flag.

I showed her the money and told her she will get it after we are done, she refused and that's when I asked her to leave. She kept insisting that getting paid first makes her feel comfortable.

I told her that I'm not going to pay her first and told her either start the arrangement or leave.

BTW she asked for 7 k per month but we agreed on $500 per meet.

Jendabaze
11-29-23, 16:40
Having dated ala SB style a few strippers I could say they cost me no more or less than any other SB.

I had a Eastern European stripper at the beginning of Covid when all the clubs were closed. I picked her up from her place and spent 3 hours all uncovered for $400. She just asked not to cum inside her.

TopGun9
11-29-23, 17:07
Just upgraded to PREMIUM a few days ago and got this message today when I log on.

Anyone actually go through this verification process? What did / can you do to get around this verification?

If there's no option to get around this, I am going to email their customer service and demand a full refund or I'll report their site. That should scare the sh*t out of them.

Your Seeking account has been temporarily put on hold.

To encourage and maintain trust between users on Seeking, you will need to confirm your identity to have your account re-activated. If approved, your account will also receive the blue verified badge. On Seeking, the badge lets people know that your account is authentic.

Seeking has partnered with Au10tix.com to securely and privately process verification of identity. To receive the verified badge start the verification with Au10 tix where you will provide a photo of an official government issued identification document, such as your Driver's License or Passport to be verified.

RollDice
11-29-23, 18:48
Be careful with Melodyluvsyou. She came to my place and backed her car into my driveway which was the first red flag.

She promised a lot on text but didn't let me touch her while we were talking on the couch, second red flag.

She said she wanted to start with massaging me and asked me to take off my clothes, but she refused to take off her cloths, third red flag.

She asked me for money first before starting the massage, fourth red flag.

I showed her the money and told her she will get it after we are done, she refused and that's when I asked her to leave. She kept insisting that getting paid first makes her feel comfortable.

I told her that I'm not going to pay her first and told her either start the arrangement or leave.

BTW she asked for 7 k per month but we agreed on $500 per meet.Thanks for the heads up boss. I was planning on meeting her thinking she seemed pretty innocent, going to scratch that off my list now.

HollywoodGuy
11-29-23, 19:32
Just upgraded to PREMIUM a few days ago and got this message today when I log on.

Anyone actually go through this verification process? What did / can you do to get around this verification?

If there's no option to get around this, I am going to email their customer service and demand a full refund or I'll report their site. That should scare the sh*t out of them.

Your Seeking account has been temporarily put on hold.

To encourage and maintain trust between users on Seeking, you will need to confirm your identity to have your account re-activated. If approved, your account will also receive the blue verified badge. On Seeking, the badge lets people know that your account is authentic.

Seeking has partnered with Au10tix.com to securely and privately process verification of identity. To receive the verified badge start the verification with Au10 tix where you will provide a photo of an official government issued identification document, such as your Driver's License or Passport to be verified.I'm verified but I'm single. And I understand the dynamics are a bit different if you are married. I have no opinion or other info to offer. Maybe some one else does?

Sandstorm1373
11-29-23, 19:33
Just upgraded to PREMIUM a few days ago and got this message today when I log on.

Anyone actually go through this verification process? What did / can you do to get around this verification?

If there's no option to get around this, I am going to email their customer service and demand a full refund or I'll report their site. That should scare the sh*t out of them.

Your Seeking account has been temporarily put on hold.

To encourage and maintain trust between users on Seeking, you will need to confirm your identity to have your account re-activated. If approved, your account will also receive the blue verified badge. On Seeking, the badge lets people know that your account is authentic.

Seeking has partnered with Au10tix.com to securely and privately process verification of identity. To receive the verified badge start the verification with Au10 tix where you will provide a photo of an official government issued identification document, such as your Driver's License or Passport to be verified.I would not give them your identification, just ask for a refund and make a new anon account. I can write a post about creating an anon account if anyone wants.

HollywoodGuy
11-29-23, 19:35
Be careful with Melodyluvsyou. She came to my place and backed her car into my driveway which was the first red flag.

She promised a lot on text but didn't let me touch her while we were talking on the couch, second red flag.

She said she wanted to start with massaging me and asked me to take off my clothes, but she refused to take off her cloths, third red flag.

She asked me for money first before starting the massage, fourth red flag.

I showed her the money and told her she will get it after we are done, she refused and that's when I asked her to leave. She kept insisting that getting paid first makes her feel comfortable.

I told her that I'm not going to pay her first and told her either start the arrangement or leave.

BTW she asked for 7 k per month but we agreed on $500 per meet.It has not happened often, but it has happened to me but not exactly the same. I have had a few girls in my place that just couldn't go through with doing the deed. They weren't asking for money, they just chickened out. But good that you stood your ground. I have had girls try to upsell me for more options but I just said no thanks and did whatever it was we agreed upon prior to getting naked.

The reality is once you pay more you can never really go back to the original agreement.

TopGun9
11-29-23, 19:41
I'm verified but I'm single. And I understand the dynamics are a bit different if you are married. I have no opinion or other info to offer. Maybe some one else does?Yeah, I am married with children. No chance in hell I am giving them my information.

Did did talk to CS and got most of my money back, prorated. Will have create new account now and repeat.

TopGun9
11-29-23, 19:42
I can write a post about creating an anon account if anyone wants.I am interested, please do share.

NeedAheRealBad
11-29-23, 20:47
Girl from pic one is Sophieraiin on ig with 2. 7 million followers. Hard to believe that he actually got with her.

Girl from pic six is Kittiiie from Hx. People have posted her ig on here before.Yeah hard to believe he met up with Sophie rain. Her and her twin are pretty popular and are adamant about being virgins til marriage so I find it hard to believe they would advertise anywhere with their pictures. They may be compensating and be utr through PMS but who knows.

NeedAheRealBad
11-29-23, 20:49
What's the going rate for an item or sb here? I'm more familiar with the scene in Florida where it's 300/ hr. Found a pretty consistent utr here but trying to negotiate pricing with her is a struggle since I don't know the standard rate in LA. She did quote me $200 for a quickie though LOL.

HollywoodGuy
11-29-23, 21:24
My current live-in GF (who is an x SB, x stripper, x rinser - in that order) is now an online Domme. No kink shaming here, but these online subs are too much. Tonite I am going on a "cuck dinner date" with her. The sub pays to see pics of us having a $$ dinner. They pay in advance. And you wonder why SB rates are going up up up.

There are just too many easy ways for girls to make money online these days.

InterTravlr56
11-30-23, 00:58
What's the going rate for an item or sb here? I'm more familiar with the scene in Florida where it's 300/ hr. Found a pretty consistent utr here but trying to negotiate pricing with her is a struggle since I don't know the standard rate in LA. She did quote me $200 for a quickie though LOL.Asked this like 3 times and have been ignored. Like some closely guarded secret where people can't even ballpark for you LOL.

FarFarAway
11-30-23, 12:03
What's the going rate for an item or sb here? I'm more familiar with the scene in Florida where it's 300/ hr. Found a pretty consistent utr here but trying to negotiate pricing with her is a struggle since I don't know the standard rate in LA. She did quote me $200 for a quickie though LOL.You are haggling w / an escort, for escort services there. Whatever you pay an escort should be fine. The escort thread should give you a hint of the local market.

I hope you know what you are doing regarding those negotiations, because if the seeking site sees this, you'll get banned, and then you will be back here crying about how you lost your membership payment and can't set up a new profile (because they do seem to be able to tell when someone they banned is trying to get back on).

HollywoodGuy
11-30-23, 12:55
Asked this like 3 times and have been ignored. Like some closely guarded secret where people can't even ballpark for you LOL.If you read enough posts in the last year you will see numbers all over the place. But to generalize. Low ballers are at $$ to $$$. Mid level is 4-6. High rollers are at 7-1 k. Age, race, experience (of the girl), length of date, drive time and game are all variable so YMMV 10% to 50% depending on a variety of factors. Those rates would apply to vegas as well.

Best bet is to just stick with your current game plan and if you are not getting enough responses bump up the rate a $.

The funny thing is sometimes you see average looking girls asking GPS rates and real hotties that can be very reasonable. The amount of time you can invest will also be a factor. Hot looking, affordable and good service. Pick any two out of three.

If you can get all three she's a keeper.

FarFarAway
11-30-23, 18:14
What is the solution to this problem? I have a POT, a 20 year old waif / hippie. Tats + piercings. We had a M&G, have off-scale chemistry. Made out, etc. She would take whatever $ I decided because we get along so well, and that is just her approach. She wants a continuing arrangement, and appears to be just a 1-man girl. I met her months ago from seeking, her profile hasn't been active since then.

Because I have a SO, I always have the girl get the room. To get a decent place, not a no-tel hotel, I use Dayuse, which can get us a room during the daytime when I have a reason to be away from home, at a good price point. I give girls cash for the room in addition to the sugar. I met another girl when I was last active on the site, a CSULB student who is 19, and have FCed w / her twice, and she got the room both times. However, newgirl tried to book a room for today, and sees that you have to be 21 to do so through dayuse. I have no idea how my past SB did this, and I don't think I can concoct a reason to ask her (she is a bit mad at me, we were supposed to FC tomorrow morning, first time since before the holiday, but I had work responsibilities come up). You also need a credit card, and newgirl has only a debit / ATM card.

BTW, I am literally more than 3. 5 times older than these girls. Not just a SD, but a SG (sugar granddaddy), I guess. Both of these are skinny white girls, so yes, I am really living the life.

Murrican
12-03-23, 21:40
I would not give them your identification, just ask for a refund and make a new anon account. I can write a post about creating an anon account if anyone wants.I have a longstanding good account but I'd be interested to know. Just in case.

NitroHX
12-04-23, 01:44
https://members.seeking.com/member/800250cb-8f7d-4f2d-95b5-c433842d93fb

Anyone have any experience with her?

She seems to be very active on SA.

She wanted to meet same night which is kind of a red flag. Most girls want a m&g or they need a few days.

She asked for 800, got her down to 500.

She was ok with being ubered to my place.

Seems to good to be true.

Any info helps. Thanks.

StevenWalker
12-04-23, 03:35
Where did all the ABGs go?? WTF. This hobby sucks some major ass now. I used to clean up with the ABGs. :

UnknownSD
12-04-23, 14:25
I met a few SBs on SA and they're asking for 2 k ppm. Here is one of them.

https://members.seeking.com/member/525dfbcb-bb76-4392-9d4f-8a79c78550f9

She asked for 2 k ppm but I countered with 1 k ppm and she offered back at 1.5 k ppm. I passed. 1.5 k ppm is still a little bit too high for her looks.

UnknownSD
12-04-23, 14:29
She asked for 1 k ppm for a platonic dinner date or $500 for a quick coffee date. I passed. Has anyone been on a platonic date with her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/415501f0-f624-4a79-8878-d6544eca52b5

UnknownSD
12-04-23, 14:33
Here is another one asking for 2 k ppm. I counter with 1 k ppm but she rejected.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ead04cc5-f2a2-402f-bb9f-0ff3ba17a428

She's tall and model looking but still I passed.

FarFarAway
12-04-23, 15:16
I have used a local guy as a source for sildenafil (from India) for a while. Sometimes the quality is not the best. My doc has sold me generic real sildenafil out of his office a couple of times, that was a dream for keeping under the radar. He now is part of a large hospital system, however. No under the table transactions anymore. He has however given me a paper scrip I can take to any pharmacy. I therefore am looking for a pharmacy one of you guys might have used to dodge your warden. They will know my real PII, however, that won't intersect w / any other parts of my life and will presumably be secure from prying eyes. I don't want to go to one of the chains.

SammyGlick
12-04-23, 17:00
How discreet do you need to be? I feel like most of us book our own rooms. Have a credit card the SO doesn't have the login for, use day use to book under your real name with but fake email and phone number, check in and say you want to pay with cash, and then all you have to worry about is a temporary hold on your card for incidentals / deposit that will disappear in a few days. Or just send me your new girl and I'll do her for you.


What is the solution to this problem? I have a POT, a 20 year old waif / hippie. Tats + piercings. We had a M&G, have off-scale chemistry. Made out, etc. She would take whatever $ I decided because we get along so well, and that is just her approach. She wants a continuing arrangement, and appears to be just a 1-man girl. I met her months ago from seeking, her profile hasn't been active since then.

Because I have a SO, I always have the girl get the room. To get a decent place, not a no-tel hotel, I use Dayuse, which can get us a room during the daytime when I have a reason to be away from home, at a good price point. I give girls cash for the room in addition to the sugar. I met another girl when I was last active on the site, a CSULB student who is 19, and have FCed w / her twice, and she got the room both times. However, newgirl tried to book a room for today, and sees that you have to be 21 to do so through dayuse. I have no idea how my past SB did this, and I don't think I can concoct a reason to ask her (she is a bit mad at me, we were supposed to FC tomorrow morning, first time since before the holiday, but I had work responsibilities come up). You also need a credit card, and newgirl has only a debit / ATM card..

RanManCan
12-04-23, 18:13
I have used a local guy as a source for sildenafil (from India) for a while. Sometimes the quality is not the best. My doc has sold me generic real sildenafil out of his office a couple of times, that was a dream for keeping under the radar. He now is part of a large hospital system, however. No under the table transactions anymore. He has however given me a paper scrip I can take to any pharmacy. I therefore am looking for a pharmacy one of you guys might have used to dodge your warden. They will know my real PII, however, that won't intersect w / any other parts of my life and will presumably be secure from prying eyes. I don't want to go to one of the chains.Can you do online like lemonaidhealth.com and have it delivered to your office? Pay with prepaid card?

FarFarAway
12-04-23, 20:07
How discreet do you need to be? I feel like most of us book our own rooms. Have a credit card the SO doesn't have the login for, use day use to book under your real name with but fake email and phone number, check in and say you want to pay with cash, and then all you have to worry about is a temporary hold on your card for incidentals / deposit that will disappear in a few days. Or just send me your new girl and I'll do her for you.I appreciate your SOH, I truly do. .

Yes, I have done that sort of thing before, long ago before the first time I was caught out by the warden. I am not prepared to take that risk again, a second strike would be imminently painful. I do tell SBs that they can pay w / the cash I give them and their card will get credited back.

The girl in question, she has agreed to meet at a hot tub club. I am looking for better of those. I posted a question in the OC thread. And if I like her, well, I will ask when she turns 21 so we can go to dayuse places.

Citrus1999
12-04-23, 21:38
I have used a local guy as a source for sildenafil (from India) for a while. Sometimes the quality is not the best. My doc has sold me generic real sildenafil out of his office a couple of times, that was a dream for keeping under the radar. He now is part of a large hospital system, however. No under the table transactions anymore. He has however given me a paper scrip I can take to any pharmacy. I therefore am looking for a pharmacy one of you guys might have used to dodge your warden. They will know my real PII, however, that won't intersect w / any other parts of my life and will presumably be secure from prying eyes. I don't want to go to one of the chains.Use Hims and ship it to a PO BOX.

I tried Rugient, the chewable that dissolves under the tongue. All the hype is true.

Citrus1999
12-04-23, 21:40
https://members.seeking.com/member/800250cb-8f7d-4f2d-95b5-c433842d93fb

Anyone have any experience with her?

She seems to be very active on SA.

She wanted to meet same night which is kind of a red flag. Most girls want a m&g or they need a few days.

She asked for 800, got her down to 500.

She was ok with being ubered to my place.

Seems to good to be true.

Any info helps. Thanks.Did you meet? Maybe just me but $500 for her doesn't seem too good to be true. Sounds about right to me.

Loafy
12-04-23, 22:27
Where did all the ABGs go?? WTF. This hobby sucks some major ass now. I used to clean up with the ABGs.Came across this one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/71ad892c-b14e-4612-8790-c387595f9fb9

SteveTandberg
12-05-23, 01:28
Did you meet? Maybe just me but $500 for her doesn't seem too good to be true. Sounds about right to me.Agreed. Avg at best. If you're paying more than 300 then you're paying too much.

HollywoodGuy
12-05-23, 06:21
Agreed. Avg at best. If you're paying more than 300 then you're paying too much.Or even less. Just my 2 cents.

Murrican
12-05-23, 09:38
I appreciate your SOH, I truly do. .

Yes, I have done that sort of thing before, long ago before the first time I was caught out by the warden. I am not prepared to take that risk again, a second strike would be imminently painful. I do tell SBs that they can pay w / the cash I give them and their card will get credited back.

The girl in question, she has agreed to meet at a hot tub club. I am looking for better of those. I posted a question in the OC thread. And if I like her, well, I will ask when she turns 21 so we can go to dayuse places.One of my tricks of the trade. Sign up for a PayPal prepaid Mastercard. It doesn't go on your credit report but it's a real card.

Find ways to move money there. Eg when your friends PayPal you or Venmo you, move the money to the card instead of your bank account.

Use that card to book hotels.

RockItAllNite
12-05-23, 11:46
Does anyone know of a hit tub club in LA? Many years ago there was one off of Crescent Heights in WeHo but they are long gone now.

Drooo
12-05-23, 12:22
Your taking about Splash! I've been there many times and always had fun there.

You'd be hard pressed to find anything like it now, I looked around, nothing out there like this legend of a place.


Does anyone know of a hit tub club in LA? Many years ago there was one off of Crescent Heights in WeHo but they are long gone now.

Citrus1999
12-05-23, 19:57
Agreed. Avg at best. If you're paying more than 300 then you're paying too much.LOL agreed, I was trying to be nice w / my previous comment. She's not someone I would meet at all but to each their own.

LadiesChoice
12-05-23, 21:46
It's in the Apple App Store and also available on Android. One of my working lady friends ran my 3 most used numbers through that last night.

My real number came up with nothing, not even my name.

My one working girl number (a paid iPhone app) popped-up as "Possible Spam. ".

And my other app I use mostly for Sugar Babies popped-up with two negatives. One was disparaging comment was obviously from a POT who I foolishly CashApp'd money to to fix her car, and then she refused to meet, so I filed a fraud report with CashApp and got my money back. She obviously retaliated by smearing me on Mr Number. Another SA Sugar Baby POT complained that I was too cheap to pay for an SA membership renewal; I am confident what happened was just as my membership expired, I messaged her with that number saying something to the effect of, "I'm taking time off from this place, but if you're interested, text me. ".

So that number with negatives will be retired and replaced with a new number, even though my working lady friend helped me out with a "thumbs up" sort of comment, two negatives does not look good.

My working lady friend told me she paid like 80 bucks a year for this service, but I did not confirm the price.


I'm pretty sure it's MrNumber, but that only has reviews from other SBs and possibly your name if you are silly enough to use your registered phone.

I've never seen age or socials on there. But, I think the girl posting is saying that if MrNumber shows name or "real phone" she can lookup name, address, age, socials.

If anyone knows anywhere else they are leaving reviews, I'd like to know.

RockItAllNite
12-06-23, 08:42
Your taking about Splash! I've been there many times and always had fun there.

You'd be hard pressed to find anything like it now, I looked around, nothing out there like this legend of a place.Splash! Yup. That's the place. Good times there.

Ace McNasty
12-06-23, 11:59
Where did all the ABGs go?? WTF. This hobby sucks some major ass now. I used to clean up with the ABGs. :


Came across this one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/71ad892c-b14e-4612-8790-c387595f9fb9Not really attracted to Asians. When I do fuck one, I prefer the clean cut American Born Chinese ABC.

Never been a fan of the aznbabygurl ABG silliness. Fake blonde hair, fake tits, fake nails, tattoos, smokes weed, and drinks Henny all the time.

My current ABC SB is only 18, and cute as a bug on a rug. No condoms, all bare, she lets daddy do anything daddy wants. That's a good Asian babygurl LOL.

TopGun9
12-06-23, 14:52
Not really attracted to Asians. When I do fuck one, I prefer the clean cut American Born Chinese ABC.

Never been a fan of the aznbabygurl ABG silliness. Fake blonde hair, fake tits, fake nails, tattoos, smokes weed, and drinks Henny all the time.

My current ABC SB is only 18, and cute as a bug on a rug. No condoms, all bare, she lets daddy do anything daddy wants. That's a good Asian babygurl LOL.Grade A baller LOL.

A girl like this will demand at least 1 k a meet around here, if you can find.

HappyJob
12-06-23, 15:18
It's in the Apple App Store and also available on Android. One of my working lady friends ran my 3 most used numbers through that last night.

My real number came up with nothing, not even my name.

My one working girl number (a paid iPhone app) popped-up as "Possible Spam. ".

And my other app I use mostly for Sugar Babies popped-up with two negatives. One was disparaging comment was obviously from a POT who I foolishly CashApp'd money to to fix her car, and then she refused to meet, so I filed a fraud report with CashApp and got my money back. She obviously retaliated by smearing me on Mr Number. Another SA Sugar Baby POT complained that I was too cheap to pay for an SA membership renewal; I am confident what happened was just as my membership expired, I messaged her with that number saying something to the effect of, "I'm taking time off from this place, but if you're interested, text me. ".

So that number with negatives will be retired and replaced with a new number, even though my working lady friend helped me out with a "thumbs up" sort of comment, two negatives does not look good.

My working lady friend told me she paid like 80 bucks a year for this service, but I did not confirm the price.Yes I was just talking to a pot sb and apparently she ran my number and sent me the screenshot and it said I was a flake, apparently I gave her the day and time and address to hotel and that I never showed up, which is a lie whenever I have to cancel a meet it's always several hours beforehand but whatever, then I was trying to set up a massage off of CL and apparently she ran my number after I had asked her for a pic talked about the same bad review, so I'm going to need to change my number, neither one would tell me what the site was called because they are only meant for "providers".

NitroHX
12-06-23, 18:17
Did you meet? Maybe just me but $500 for her doesn't seem too good to be true. Sounds about right to me.Yeah that's not bad for her caliber of looks. I was just taken back by how fast she wanted to meet up. And her willingness to "have fun". She gave me flight risk vibes.

UnknownSD
12-07-23, 10:47
She's been a member on SA since Dec 2021. She recently got back on SA and I got her number and we texted. Seems like she wasn't interested in my offer. Has anyone met up with her in person or had an arrangement with her before? Please DM me with any intel. Thanks!

https://members.seeking.com/member/7f3de9ca-55e8-430d-96b2-384e22202be2

LadiesChoice
12-07-23, 18:32
Hey, Ace!

Your ABC girl is cute! Will you share her digits?

Asking for a friend!


Not really attracted to Asians. When I do fuck one, I prefer the clean cut American Born Chinese ABC.

Never been a fan of the aznbabygurl ABG silliness. Fake blonde hair, fake tits, fake nails, tattoos, smokes weed, and drinks Henny all the time.

My current ABC SB is only 18, and cute as a bug on a rug. No condoms, all bare, she lets daddy do anything daddy wants. That's a good Asian babygurl LOL.

TopGun9
12-08-23, 13:50
I've found that Google image search is much better than Tineye.

So many times that Tineye gave me ZERO results, Google found a bunch of matches.

Are you guys experiencing the same?

Rocketron1006
12-08-23, 17:28
I've found that Google image search is much better than Tineye.

So many times that Tineye gave me ZERO results, Google found a bunch of matches.

Are you guys experiencing the same?Absolutely. I use both all the time for a magazine I edit and Tineye has become almost useless in comparison--tho I still use both.

WowU812
12-08-23, 21:11
It's in the Apple App Store and also available on Android. One of my working lady friends ran my 3 most used numbers through that last night.

My real number came up with nothing, not even my name.

My one working girl number (a paid iPhone app) popped-up as "Possible Spam. ".

And my other app I use mostly for Sugar Babies popped-up with two negatives. One was disparaging comment was obviously from a POT who I foolishly CashApp'd money to to fix her car, and then she refused to meet, so I filed a fraud report with CashApp and got my money back. She obviously retaliated by smearing me on Mr Number. Another SA Sugar Baby POT complained that I was too cheap to pay for an SA membership renewal; I am confident what happened was just as my membership expired, I messaged her with that number saying something to the effect of, "I'm taking time off from this place, but if you're interested, text me. ".

So that number with negatives will be retired and replaced with a new number, even though my working lady friend helped me out with a "thumbs up" sort of comment, two negatives does not look good.

My working lady friend told me she paid like 80 bucks a year for this service, but I did not confirm the price.You can get reviews taken down from Mr Number. Google it.

UnknownSD
12-10-23, 11:59
Pornstar Nicole Nichols from Foxxxmodeling is on SA. Her rates are flexible depending on what you're looking for. She's visiting LA for a few weeks for her shoot. But, she asks to cover for her Uber.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c7ac9ff1-9135-4546-a638-014f5af93ca8

UnknownSD
12-10-23, 12:17
She's a blonde girl. Her looks are 7 to me. She's asking for $1 k ppm. She will share photos over text. She will only meet up for coffee / drinks if you want to start arrangements after.

https://members.seeking.com/member/004d3daa-d0f9-44db-b2a3-d4ba19343a58

Another blonde girl. Looks is a 6. She says it's her first time on SA. She's asking for $900 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e8484a07-8f94-4fa0-aeff-6dfbce305d66

A mixed girl. Very hot looking from her profile pics. Chatted with her over text. Cannot verify if she's real or not since she's not free to meet up.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2780cd7a-8bee-430d-a00e-b77ef0cc6d84

A Ukraine Blonde girl. Her body is a little thick on the curvy side. Looks a 6. Her allowance is flexible if she likes you. Previously she was platonic now she's open to intimacy.

https://members.seeking.com/member/692ad55c-872a-4883-862a-192525b0983b

Blonde girl. She looks older than 27. Allowance is negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/bcd41ae9-dd6d-4927-a0d3-35e425b39803

She has multiple profiles. Her allowance is negotiable. She's open to $500 ppm for a 1-hour meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8453533f-8658-437e-a466-ea1269037cde

UnknownSD
12-10-23, 18:19
She's Mongolian. Looks is a 6. She wants $800 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/e5eb7525-7f4b-4420-81cb-a915795c548b

She's mixed. Look is a 6. Allowance is negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/132bd48c-bd65-467a-8370-97cf9d897d6a

She's Middle Eastern. Look is a 7. Her body type is curvy. She wants 1 k ppm. She will video chat first.

https://members.seeking.com/member/66a31365-fb1d-4ec8-9b30-0b8d9f684fac

She's Latina / Filipina mix. Her looks is a 8. 5. She ask for $1500-2 k ppm or $200 for coffee.

https://members.seeking.com/member/93102cfd-ba9d-450b-bf2f-862913c22cd3

She's Latino. Looks is a 8. She ask for $800 ppm. Condoms only. She lives between Miami and LA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/593f92ad-aac7-405a-b7dc-1c24c6d4012c

She's White Red Head college girl. She's tall, 5'11". She ask for $1 k ppm Her looks is a 6-7.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a3555f88-11e0-4e8b-8861-2d2fc59a3346

She's from England. She lives in Fullerton. She is a exchange student. She's platonic only and allowance is negotiable. Hugs only. No kisses.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b2a072f2-8447-46b1-a8dc-245062d492f1

She's mixed. She's selective who she connects with. Allowance is negotiable. Looks is a 7. She's very short.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a0d02de6-189d-44ed-aa4b-485939e7ea9c

She's from China. There are reviews of her on this forum previously by other members. Look is a 7. She ask for 1 k ppm. She has a friend that is also on Seeking. Maybe they'll do a threesome.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f32cf88a-5d3d-46f2-8201-5290f4f1c236

She's European. She's selective who she connects and meet up. She ask for monthly allowance. She's not interested in ppm. Looks is a 7.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e4b5e892-8b32-447e-99f3-54d4797310c2

FarFarAway
12-11-23, 14:54
Please post to their profiles, not your messages.


She's Mongolian. Looks is a 6. She wants $800 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/e5eb7525-7f4b-4420-81cb-a915795c548b

She's mixed. Look is a 6. Allowance is negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/132bd48c-bd65-467a-8370-97cf9d897d6a

She's Middle Eastern. Look is a 7. Her body type is curvy. She wants 1 k ppm. She will video chat first.

https://members.seeking.com/member/66a31365-fb1d-4ec8-9b30-0b8d9f684fac

She's Latina / Filipina mix. Her looks is a 8. 5. She ask for $1500-2 k ppm or $200 for coffee.

https://members.seeking.com/member/93102cfd-ba9d-450b-bf2f-862913c22cd3

She's Latino. Looks is a 8. She ask for $800 ppm. Condoms only. She lives between Miami and LA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/593f92ad-aac7-405a-b7dc-1c24c6d4012c

She's White Red Head college girl. She's tall, 5'11". She ask for $1 k ppm Her looks is a 6-7.

UnknownSD
12-11-23, 19:47
What do you mean by post to their profiles?


Please post to their profiles, not your messages.

CouldntBeMe
12-11-23, 22:47
What do you mean by post to their profiles?Post profile links not message links.

Boobman76
12-11-23, 23:26
What do you mean by post to their profiles?Your first two links for the Mongolian and Mixed 6 are links to the messages you've exchanged with those girls, and not their profiles. We can't see the messages, but it takes us to the message page. The other links you provided for the other girls take us directly to their profile.

UnknownSD
12-12-23, 11:10
Whoops! My mistake. Can I edit my post or should I post the links for the two girls? Here are the links for first two girls.

Mongolian girl - https://members.seeking.com/member/75f20d92-e152-48e0-8e35-1a426664fe5f

Mixed girl - https://members.seeking.com/member/9661fabd-ee52-48e3-a4b7-bfece61cef58


Your first two links for the Mongolian and Mixed 6 are links to the messages you've exchanged with those girls, and not their profiles. We can't see the messages, but it takes us to the message page. The other links you provided for the other girls take us directly to their profile.

UnknownSD
12-12-23, 15:49
She asks for $150 before the meeting. She deactivated her account.

https://members.seeking.com/member/eda6c1ed-a48c-49ca-8da4-2ae1fd39485e

She wants to play the long game. Claims to be financially independent and wealthy and not looking for financial support but looking for a serious relationship. How many times have you heard this story? Too many times for me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/01cc4824-c845-4a38-ad3c-6944f31a2e34

She's selling pics. Probably some dude selling other models' nude pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f794ebd7-2ba9-4118-a1b6-5807710e9088

She's fake. Just want to chat. Haven't chatted with her enough to know her game.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d7f4299b-1a6c-4505-b4de-a2b232401887

These are my recent encounters.

FarFarAway
12-12-23, 18:10
https://members.seeking.com/member/5d56df4b-3547-4d9d-aa7e-f59d8d9c9462

I have had a lot of contact w / her, met her a couple of times, we're trying to get set up to FC tomorrow, where she will get an AirB&B (she's too young to get a hotel). Just spidey senses alarming, anyone have experience w / her?

UnknownSD
12-12-23, 18:24
No. I've never met her or been in contact with her before. Her profile is not in my search results. I haven't seen her profile till your post. What does FC stand for? Is there a link to all the abbreviations used on this forum?


https://members.seeking.com/member/5d56df4b-3547-4d9d-aa7e-f59d8d9c9462

I have had a lot of contact w / her, met her a couple of times, we're trying to get set up to FC tomorrow, where she will get an AirB&B (she's too young to get a hotel). Just spidey senses alarming, anyone have experience w / her?

Gidden Lade
12-13-23, 00:32
No. I've never met her or been in contact with her before. Her profile is not in my search results. I haven't seen her profile till your post. What does FC stand for? Is there a link to all the abbreviations used on this forum?FC is "Fuck Chamber. " There is a link to the abbreviations in the blue banner near the top of the webpage, right below the "Log Out" button.

Murrican
12-13-23, 10:17
I've found that Google image search is much better than Tineye.

So many times that Tineye gave me ZERO results, Google found a bunch of matches.

Are you guys experiencing the same?I tried to use Google image search so many times. All it ever finds is things like clothing the girl is wearing. Not matches for the actual person.

Is there some switch you have to flip or something to get picture associations like you do on Pimeyes (like this photo / person also exists on this other site)?

TopGun9
12-13-23, 12:46
I tried to use Google image search so many times. All it ever finds is things like clothing the girl is wearing. Not matches for the actual person.

Is there some switch you have to flip or something to get picture associations like you do on Pimeyes (like this photo / person also exists on this other site)?When you upload the image to Google, it usually try to zoom in on the shirt like you said.

You need to manually zoom out and select the whole photo, then click the "find source" button above the picture.

Murrican
12-13-23, 21:41
When you upload the image to Google, it usually try to zoom in on the shirt like you said.

You need to manually zoom out and select the whole photo, then click the "find source" button above the picture.I see. Thank you. I will try that.

UnknownSD
12-14-23, 11:18
She's ID Verified and her recent login location is the Philippines. She set her location as Pasadena, CA. All the profiles I have encountered on Seeking with recent login locations in the Philippines are fake / scammers. Not sure how this fake / scammer passed Seekings ID Verification. I guess Seeking can't verify whether the document is real or fake if the user uploads a Foreign Passport / ID.

https://members.seeking.com/member/269839fc-4365-43d3-ab2e-d1ae0bbb3002

UnknownSD
12-15-23, 11:36
She's a blonde girl from EU. She's 31 not 29 as on profile. She asks for $2.5-$3 k ppm. Her looks are between an 8 and 9.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6427374f-1170-4a1d-a428-f3d66123bfd5

She's white with a curvy body. She's looking for platonic dates only.

https://members.seeking.com/member/71e91a17-c3d0-4425-9e08-55eef91bf59f

Classyluxx. She's I'd Verified. Looks is an 8. On the day of the meeting, she said she got called in for work and had to reschedule. Afterward, she ghosted. Doesn't reply to messages. Don't know if she's real or fake. If anybody has intel on her, pm me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2780cd7a-8bee-430d-a00e-b77ef0cc6d84

Dovelybaby. She's Bulgarian and lives around the Sherman Oaks area. Currently not working and has no income. Her looks and body are a 6. She asks for 1 k ppm and some allowance for coffee meets.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e1464057-8b61-4216-8fe9-d8f52a697586

UnknownSD
12-15-23, 14:22
Ekelly1122. She's back on Seeking for the 3rd or 4th time. She used similar usernames prior. Before, she was platonic only but after a few SDs she BBFS. She's tall and has an athletic body. She has size A breast and her ass is quite big. She's the cute type. Her face is 7-8. Her body is a 6. Her allowance is negotiable if she connects with you. She lives in OC, around the Huntington Beach area.

https://members.seeking.com/member/73bfd722-26f2-4be3-85fe-73c63253ee01

Mel. She's been on Seeking for many years. She's divorced and has a child. She also tried out as a camgirl before and her video was on xhamster but has been taken down. If you google her name, you can still find her videos on other sites. She's selective about who she meets. Her allowance is negotiable if she connects with you.

https://members.seeking.com/member/815d0992-7a5c-4013-b650-8c2368901a8b

Girl Next Door. She's been on Seeking for over 10 years. She was a teen when she first started sugaring. Before, her breast was size A and now her breast has been enhanced to a DD. She's looking for at least 1 k ppm. She was very skinny before but has gained weight over the years.

https://members.seeking.com/member/20bd11cd-cc66-464f-a5d3-658d8eaa08bf

SweetSunrise. Her profile says 28 but she's over 30. She has been on Seeking for many years as well. She's looking for 1 k ppm. Condoms only. Her looks is an 8. Her body type is athletic / curvy with a big ass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d736b4e4-d087-434b-b6b5-d4b7e38cb9f3

Anastasia. She lives in West LA. She's looking for $1 k to meet up for a platonic dinner date. She didn't say how much for fun times. She says that can be discussed after the first initial dinner date but I wonder if that's even available. Her looks is an 8+.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cafd6e5c-2050-48d7-ac79-bcd0864beb04

Chupacabra
12-16-23, 07:09
Anastasia. She lives in West LA. She's looking for $1 k to meet up for a platonic dinner date. She didn't say how much for fun times. She says that can be discussed after the first initial dinner date but I wonder if that's even available. Her looks is an 8+.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cafd6e5c-2050-48d7-ac79-bcd0864beb04Who the hell would pay $1 k to be ghosted by some chick who doesn't even show her body. Am I taking crazy pills? I could fuck three K-girls for that! You're doing yeoman's work BTW.

Chupacabra
12-16-23, 07:11
https://members.seeking.com/member/5d56df4b-3547-4d9d-aa7e-f59d8d9c9462

I have had a lot of contact w / her, met her a couple of times, we're trying to get set up to FC tomorrow, where she will get an AirB&B (she's too young to get a hotel). Just spidey senses alarming, anyone have experience w / her?Other than the stomach tattoos and the eyes of a serial killer, she looks great! Are you still alive?

UnknownSD
12-16-23, 12:27
Yes. Some SBs ask for ridiculous allowances on SA. She will share more pics over text. She's kinda high maintenance. She will only meet up at upscale high-end restaurants.


Who the hell would pay $1 k to be ghosted by some chick who doesn't even show her body. Am I taking crazy pills? I could fuck three K-girls for that! You're doing yeoman's work BTW.

FarFarAway
12-16-23, 15:46
Other than the stomach tattoos and the eyes of a serial killer, she looks great! Are you still alive?I found the place she booked kinda sketch, so I cancelled. I'd say she is more of a UTR escort, not my prime target.

StevenWalker
12-16-23, 19:17
Came across this one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/71ad892c-b14e-4612-8790-c387595f9fb9She's fine as hell bro. Did you hit?

FarFarAway
12-18-23, 16:32
She's fine as hell bro. Did you hit?She's been on the site since 2017, though she says "Looking to have fun and see what this is all about" I am sure she already knows.

RollDice
12-18-23, 19:06
Pornstar Angel Windell, anybody have any experiences to share? Mostly wondering what's her ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/eb53ce5c-8415-495b-8229-f1263ef43904

SBlover
12-18-23, 21:50
Talked with this one. Sounds more like an escort than. Sugar baby. 1 K. I wouldn't even do half that personally.

SBlover
12-18-23, 21:51
Forgot the link.

https://members.seeking.com/member/66a31365-fb1d-4ec8-9b30-0b8d9f684fac

UnknownSD
12-19-23, 02:57
Try 500 ppm.


Pornstar Angel Windell, anybody have any experiences to share? Mostly wondering what's her ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/eb53ce5c-8415-495b-8229-f1263ef43904

UnknownSD
12-19-23, 11:37
Forgot the link.

https://members.seeking.com/member/66a31365-fb1d-4ec8-9b30-0b8d9f684facI reviewed this one before in my previous post.

UnknownSD
12-19-23, 11:49
https://members.seeking.com/member/822cff69-6964-4f36-8d37-5f270d6c6b9d

This one is a lot of fun. I've enjoyed her enough that it's time to share. Like to meet for dinner and then go back for a couple rounds. Not cheap but worth the experience if you want a slim little redhead. A few rules but nothing unreasonable.She wanted to meet "right away" so I thought she was a fake / scammer profile. Usually, profiles that want to meet "right away" are fake / scammer profiles and they ask for gas money.

UnknownSD
12-19-23, 13:29
Cheekybabe. Blonde girl with an athletic body. She's back on Seeking for the nth time with a new username. There was a previous review on her and the review was very accurate. Her looks is a 7 but her body is a 6. Condom only. No kissing. Her ppm ranges from $400 - $800 depending on your connection with her. If you want the link to her Instagram, send me a pm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7f5042d3-ee13-42f1-a3a3-db425dacf443

FinDomSerenity6. Korean girl in her 30's. She's from Las Vegas and currently visiting LA. I suspect she is one of those girls who work at the Korean BBFS massage parlor. Does anyone recognize her? Her looks are a 7. She kinda looks like NG at CGLA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2036862d-4584-4cec-84e0-723a96e4e540

Brittbaddie. Fake / Scammer profile. Some dude trying to sell other model's nude pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/399fc7b6-4fbe-4094-8425-e4636926e56d

Karen. European blonde girl in her 30's. She asks $300 ppm for a platonic dinner date first.

https://members.seeking.com/member/593eab9b-36f7-4237-919a-a11eb452b830

Sexycupcake. Fake / Scammer profile. Some dude trying to sell other model's nude pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/32da1406-91f3-47ea-bb51-eeae6436c7bf

Bestwifey. Russian blonde girl. She asks for 1 k ppm. Will only meet up if you want to start the arrangement only.

https://members.seeking.com/member/14699c2f-8f81-4411-9583-71f03aa5289a

Amakusa. Japanese / Chinese mix but very Chinese. Her looks are a 5. Her allowance is negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e8267db4-2d85-4950-b8b3-94c9fe8ad0b9

HollywoodGuy
12-19-23, 20:34
She wanted to meet "right away" so I thought she was a fake / scammer profile. Usually, profiles that want to meet "right away" are fake / scammer profiles and they ask for gas money.All the girls I have ever met that wanted to meet "right away" were just broke hoes that needed the money.

Loafy
12-21-23, 09:36
She's fine as hell bro. Did you hit?In Seattle and visiting la soon so thought I'd message around. Swapped numbers and she requested free coffee vibe check. Asking 1 k including "fun". Heh.

UnknownSD
12-21-23, 14:58
Holidaymiracle. She's one of those who wants to meet "right away" and in La Mesa and won't give out her number. Most likely fake / scammer. Not sure what the scam is since I didn't follow through.

https://members.seeking.com/member/35264cf0-5488-4bd6-89ef-d2340d725fa4

ElectricHoney. Slim blonde girl in her 30's. Her looks is a 7. 5 She's asking for $800 ppm. She's ok with BB if you're recently tested. She's non-monogamous so she's seeing multiple SDs.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cf8fd28a-6968-4b3e-b4f6-76537b1d48d3

Babyblue. She's been on SA for many years. She's a pro escort and looking for incall to her place for $1 k ppm. She's unwilling to video chat or meet in person prior so her photos are most likely not recent and inaccurate. Unsure of her looks.

https://members.seeking.com/member/388c6912-f674-f66e-e4b0-694ff64d6ab9

Doll Face. She gives out fake numbers. Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2499fe04-ee7f-4672-b39e-1cbdfd547902

Awakebutnotwoke. She's a blonde girl in her 20's. From pics on her profile, her look is a 7. She's asking for a 10 k-15 k monthly allowance. I've seen her profile before so she's not new to SA. I wonder if she even does ppm. Even so, I'm guessing it will be around 3 k ppm. For her looks, she's definitely not in the 3 k bracket level compared to professional models and IG celebrities that are in that bracket.

https://members.seeking.com/member/dd2a631e-169f-46f7-a34b-91b61ea37f8c

HappyJob
12-21-23, 23:44
Wants 1500 an hour, I had to ask if the sum was right and she said yes, said she has a great body and great in bed, I was like with all due respect not going to happen and told her I've slayed way hotter and probably better fuks for 1/7th of that for multiple hours, told her good luck, claims she was new on the site and I was the first person she talked to hahaha.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6c3f3d17-97d5-40ce-bb03-138df865818f

Going to get off for a while too many scammers and girls wanting to meet right now for ridiculous amounts, I got a couple good leads will posts once they fizzle out.

UnknownSD
12-22-23, 02:06
Wants 1500 an hour, I had to ask if the sum was right and she said yes, said she has a great body and great in bed, I was like with all due respect not going to happen and told her I've slayed way hotter and probably better fuks for 1/7th of that for multiple hours, told her good luck, claims she was new on the site and I was the first person she talked to hahaha.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6c3f3d17-97d5-40ce-bb03-138df865818f

Going to get off for a while too many scammers and girls wanting to meet right now for ridiculous amounts, I got a couple good leads will posts once they fizzle out.Yes. A lot of SBs on SA ask for a ridiculous amount. You just have to weed those out. Their allowance expectations are unrealistic and eventually, they'll get off the site because they won't find any offers or arrangements.

FarFarAway
12-22-23, 11:04
Yes. A lot of SBs on SA ask for a ridiculous amount. You just have to weed those out. Their allowance expectations are unrealistic and eventually, they'll get off the site because they won't find any offers or arrangements.So, apparently, you've reported on so many of these, all of your fact-finding has been by electronic messaging. In that situation, you are always going to get a girl's 'escort' pricing, as if you are the worst ogre she'll ever run into. I always delay the negotiation on allowance as long as possible. There are some guys who are real swordsmen who never have that convo and get all the way to the FC w / no agreement / request for allowance.

You are also eventually going to get banned by the seeking site if any of that discussion of allowance is done on their site so the mods can see it. It is absolutely verboten. Just because you haven't gotten banned yet does not mean it won't happen. Periodically there will be a guy posting here about how to get back on w / a different profile, which is actually very difficult. They have ways to sniff out when the same person is trying to come back.

Ace McNasty
12-22-23, 11:42
Wants 1500 an hour, I had to ask if the sum was right and she said yes, said she has a great body and great in bed, I was like with all due respect not going to happen and told her I've slayed way hotter and probably better fuks for 1/7th of that for multiple hours, told her good luck, claims she was new on the site and I was the first person she talked to hahaha.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6c3f3d17-97d5-40ce-bb03-138df865818fShe looks like these fat hundy dollar AA street hoes walking up and down Figueroa. Did you clarify? Maybe she meant 1500 pesos!

She identifies as a "Medical Doctor". Maybe she needs help paying off all those med school loans ha ha ha!

UnknownSD
12-22-23, 12:08
So, apparently, you've reported on so many of these, all of your fact-finding has been by electronic messaging. In that situation, you are always going to get a girl's 'escort' pricing, as if you are the worst ogre she'll ever run into. I always delay the negotiation on allowance as long as possible. There are some guys who are real swordsmen who never have that convo and get all the way to the FC w / no agreement / request for allowance.

You are also eventually going to get banned by the seeking site if any of that discussion of allowance is done on their site so the mods can see it. It is absolutely verboten. Just because you haven't gotten banned yet does not mean it won't happen. Periodically there will be a guy posting here about how to get back on w / a different profile, which is actually very difficult. They have ways to sniff out when the same person is trying to come back.Seeking is a website where you can be upfront and straightforward as to what you're looking for so you don't have to hide behind the bushes or play games like many "fake daddies" or "salt daddy" does. If you offer a long-term relationship with mutual benefits like a monthly allowance, Seeking welcomes it. However, if you offer "per meet' or "ppm" allowance then you will get banned from Seeking as that is soliciting for prostitution which is a violation of their terms. Also, I've had arrangements where I offered allowances and the SB refuses to take the allowance because they had such a wonderful time with me that they don't want it. The SBs on Seeking are looking for a mutually beneficial arrangement so that's why they're on it. By not discussing or avoiding the topic of allowance or misleading them in ways that they think you're offering allowance, you're simply taking advantage of naive girls who are too afraid to ask or speak up after they have been misled.

UnknownSD
12-22-23, 12:34
It seems to me that members on this site are unappreciative of my post on SB Reviews and receiving negative feedback. Thus, I'm no longer posting SB Reviews and will be removing my previous post.

HappyJob
12-22-23, 14:01
She looks like these fat hundy dollar AA street hoes walking up and down Figueroa. Did you clarify? Maybe she meant 1500 pesos!

She identifies as a "Medical Doctor". Maybe she needs help paying off all those med school loans ha ha ha!I actually vid chatted with her and she recently came from Cuba and that's were she was a doctor apparently here she's a nanny, when she said 1500 I did clarify asking her if she mean US $ and she said yes and I said 1 hr and she's like yes, for a girl that has never been in an arrangement she's requesting like a seasoned pro.

JCoRunner99
12-22-23, 17:14
It seems to me that members on this site are unappreciative of my post on SB Reviews and receiving negative feedback. Thus, I'm no longer posting SB Reviews and will be removing my previous post.Seriously fuck those people. You post some awesome reviews!

Chupacabra
12-22-23, 18:07
Seriously fuck those people. You post some awesome reviews!I agree. Don't let anonymous haters run you off, USD. I appreciate your posts.

StevenWalker
12-22-23, 23:07
In Seattle and visiting la soon so thought I'd message around. Swapped numbers and she requested free coffee vibe check. Asking 1 k including "fun". Heh.She viewed my pictures and ignored me. WTF? What's your looks rating? Maybe I'm too ugly for her.

StevenWalker
12-22-23, 23:11
Any intel on this rice pussy? We were going to meet for 4 big ones but she is being flakey.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7a5c9154-b8c1-41cf-8a47-beb47a5d0707

StevenWalker
12-22-23, 23:14
She looks like these fat hundy dollar AA street hoes walking up and down Figueroa. Did you clarify? Maybe she meant 1500 pesos!

She identifies as a "Medical Doctor". Maybe she needs help paying off all those med school loans ha ha ha!She's ugly as sin LOL.

UnknownSD
12-23-23, 12:21
Any intel on this rice pussy? We were going to meet for 4 big ones but she is being flakey.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7a5c9154-b8c1-41cf-8a47-beb47a5d0707Yes, she's real. She's Korean in her early 20's. She's been on SA for a couple of years now. She lives near Midway City in OC. A few years back before COVID, she already asked for $500+ ppm so maybe that's the reason why she is flakey with you.

StevenWalker
12-23-23, 18:07
Yes, she's real. She's Korean in her early 20's. She's been on SA for a couple of years now. She lives near Midway City in OC. A few years back before COVID, she already asked for $500+ ppm so maybe that's the reason why she is flakey with you.Dang bro. You are a lucky ass dude if you got to see her. She sounds hot as hell.

StevenWalker
12-23-23, 18:15
Not really attracted to Asians. When I do fuck one, I prefer the clean cut American Born Chinese ABC.

Never been a fan of the aznbabygurl ABG silliness. Fake blonde hair, fake tits, fake nails, tattoos, smokes weed, and drinks Henny all the time.

My current ABC SB is only 18, and cute as a bug on a rug. No condoms, all bare, she lets daddy do anything daddy wants. That's a good Asian babygurl LOL.COTDAMN BRO. You're hitting that? Teach me your ways sempai.

StevenWalker
12-23-23, 18:19
Got rejected by smolkitten. She viewed my face pictures and stopped responding LOL! Anyone see her before? She looks trans in the face but has a great ass. Man. I feel bad getting rejected by these sloots.

same story with ricecake. I didn't realize I was this ugly lol.

UnknownSD
12-23-23, 20:00
Dang bro. You are a lucky ass dude if you got to see her. She sounds hot as hell.Her look and body is a 7 so no need to feel that you missed out on a hottie. She's actually in her mid or late 20's now LOL.

UnknownSD
12-23-23, 20:02
Got rejected by smolkitten. She viewed my face pictures and stopped responding LOL! Anyone see her before? She looks trans in the face but has a great ass. Man. I feel bad getting rejected by these sloots.

same story with ricecake. I didn't realize I was this ugly lol.Post her profile link so I can see who.

StevenWalker
12-24-23, 02:52
Post her profile link so I can see who.Kitten.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6728e430-9c53-4fa8-b8a3-00dc698adb31

Ricer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/20414dac-5b76-4d69-bf03-2180af64f246

UnknownSD
12-24-23, 12:06
Kitten.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6728e430-9c53-4fa8-b8a3-00dc698adb31

Ricer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/20414dac-5b76-4d69-bf03-2180af64f246RiceCake has been on SA for many years. Maybe 6+ years. I chatted with her in the past but never met up with her so don't know if she's real or not.

UnknownSD
12-24-23, 12:47
Thanks for the positive feedback. I'll post another SB review and see.

DreamyAphrodite. Fake / Scammer. Gave me another SD number on SA instead of hers.

https://members.seeking.com/member/feb6d4c1-8418-4fdc-996f-a71502dbafb3

Missperfect4 you. Fake / Scammer. Changed her location many times.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3b76da89-e2c0-4614-832c-49f2c47ed926

VictoriaKitty. Fake / Scammer. Just looking to chat online.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6a9d8451-30ed-4185-8daa-7e22c029f2e7

Jaexrae. She's Filipino from Toronto. She's here in LA visiting for her bday until January 1st. She's new to sugar dating and trying it out. Act quickly if you're interested. Her looks are a 7. Her allowance is negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c8568d34-2674-4e45-9b13-3c86e6e1aedb

Skybaby. Fake / Scammer. Selling pics.

https://members.seeking.com/member/340dc5ae-4181-48d5-81c7-69479e170d1d

Jennifer. Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ae643868-5f0e-43ce-ad6b-4471aaac1e3e

Whimsicallyrose. White girl from Missouri in her 20's. She has very bad teeth so kind of a turn-off. Her looks are a 7 if you can get past the bad teeth. Her body is a 6, kind of thick and athletic. Allowance is flexible.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7c8f4238-e104-478c-a427-6cd0948e8a7a

SexySiren. Portuguese girl in her 30's. She's been on SA for many years using different usernames. She's short and has an athletic body. Her looks and body are a 7. She looks better in photos than in person. She has a full-time job so sugaring is only on the side and she's selective as to who she replies to. Allowance is flexible.

https://members.seeking.com/member/704b1273-ff5e-4fb3-8435-b30d03034c4e

Awakebutnotwoke. Review Part 2. We continued our conversation and I was correct. For per meet allowance, she's asking for 3 k ppm. She's definitely not in that tier. However, throughout our conversation, she was nice and friendly even though our allowance expectations differed.

https://members.seeking.com/member/dd2a631e-169f-46f7-a34b-91b61ea37f8c

Jaym4 ds. Fake / Scammer. She will text you and schedule a meetup and on the day of the meetup, she will ghost you. She's unwilling to do a voice call or video chat prior to verify so most likely a fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/45ea1eb2-a769-40e1-ad31-138c37e1e249

StevenWalker
12-24-23, 17:07
RiceCake has been on SA for many years. Maybe 6+ years. I chatted with her in the past but never met up with her so don't know if she's real or not.What would you rate yourself out of 10? I'm suprised I'm not getting responses from some of these girls. I'm average looking but most guys on these websites are ugly so I thought I'd stand out:

HollywoodGuy
12-24-23, 18:26
I agree. Don't let anonymous haters run you off, USD. I appreciate your posts.All legit reviews are greatly appreciated. And 99% of them are. But never judge any guys version of a 10 or what they are willing to pay. There are just too many variables to quantify what is a fair or unfair rate. Another guy on another thread always says in his own way "there are no gold diggers, old gold givers". So pay what you can afford and enjoy the ride.

UnknownSD
12-24-23, 18:49
What would you rate yourself out of 10? I'm suprised I'm not getting responses from some of these girls. I'm average-looking but most guys on these websites are ugly so I thought I'd stand out:You'll probably be surprised if I tell you this. I don't even have a single photo posted on my SA profile. So it's not all about looks but how well you write your first message to the girls. The girls on SA are not looking for hot model-looking guys since they know what SA is about, but looking for sincere mature gentlemen to take care of them. You just have to present yourself as a gentleman and if they're interested in what you have to offer to them then they will respond. So the girls who responded to my messages don't even know what I look like so looks don't matter initially.

StevenWalker
12-25-23, 02:51
You'll probably be surprised if I tell you this. I don't even have a single photo posted on my SA profile. So it's not all about looks but how well you write your first message to the girls. The girls on SA are not looking for hot model-looking guys since they know what SA is about, but looking for sincere mature gentlemen to take care of them. You just have to present yourself as a gentleman and if they're interested in what you have to offer to them then they will respond. So the girls who responded to my messages don't even know what I look like so looks don't matter initially.Dang bro. You are the true master at slaying poonani. I go straight for the kill and ask their ppm. Maybe I should be jestering more. Didn't know this was okcupid LOL.

Chupacabra
12-25-23, 16:15
I left one out in my reviews.

Joy. She's back on SA with a new profile. She's been off for a while. She's been on SA for many years with different usernames. She's a European girl, forgot from where exactly, in her late 20's or early 30's. Her body is a perfect 10. She's tall, 5'9", and skinny with a natural C breast that is soft and in perfect shape. Her body is like one of those nude models you see in Eyes Wide Shut movie. Her looks is a 7 but her body makes up for it. Her allowance is negotiable.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0317aec3-8b89-448b-844e-f7c0ecf3c299I always appreciate your info! Did you meet with this one? If so, what was the damage and how was she? PM if you prefer.

Chupacabra
12-25-23, 16:16
All legit reviews are greatly appreciated. And 99% of them are. But never judge any guys version of a 10 or what they are willing to pay. There are just too many variables to quantify what is a fair or unfair rate. Another guy on another thread always says in his own way "there are no gold diggers, old gold givers". So pay what you can afford and enjoy the ride.Good advice.

FarFarAway
12-25-23, 18:36
What would you rate yourself out of 10? I'm suprised I'm not getting responses from some of these girls. I'm average looking but most guys on these websites are ugly so I thought I'd stand out:So you approach them w / questions about their PPM, and you have race-based stereotypes on your fingertips. Do you send junk pix too? I'd bet they feel you are approaching them like hookers; Asian girls who are NPs / SBs are least likely to respond to such blandishments. That group, in my opinion, is the most in to keeping it above the gutter level. Hence, their huge allowance asks.

UnknownSD
12-25-23, 20:30
I always appreciate your info! Did you meet with this one? If so, what was the damage and how was she? PM if you prefer.I prefer to keep my experiences with the SBs private. In my reviews, if I say allowance negotiable that simply means that she has no set price or specific allowance expectations and she didn't reply with a ppm rate. Thus, she goes with the flow and whatever allowance you offer her if you guys connect. Joy is very easygoing and friendly and has no set allowance.

Blah1337
12-25-23, 22:32
RiceCake has been on SA for many years. Maybe 6+ years. I chatted with her in the past but never met up with her so don't know if she's real or not.I've had dinner with her, but chose not to move forward because I only enter arrangements with those who I actually click with outside of the bedroom. Conversation didn't flow as well as I would've liked.

But she's a nice person. Face isn't as attractive in person as a heads up. Definitely puts on a decent amount of makeup.

StevenWalker
12-25-23, 23:59
So you approach them w / questions about their PPM, and you have race-based stereotypes on your fingertips. Do you send junk pix too? I'd bet they feel you are approaching them like hookers; Asian girls who are NPs / SBs are least likely to respond to such blandishments. That group, in my opinion, is the most in to keeping it above the gutter level. Hence, their huge allowance asks.I tell them how often I want to meet and ask what their ppm is first message. I don't like playing games. It has worked with many girls (I've seen over 20 and all of them were asian LOL) but some girls on these sites really think they are above hookers? Man LOL. What is wrong with this generation of women? If you're going to be a sloot at least own up to it. THat is why I quit dating normies. They are soo full of themselves ggrrr makes my blood boil.

UnknownSD
12-26-23, 10:49
I've had dinner with her, but chose not to move forward because I only enter arrangements with those who I actually click with outside of the bedroom. Conversation didn't flow as well as I would've liked.

But she's a nice person. Face isn't as attractive in person as a heads up. Definitely puts on a decent amount of makeup.Agree. I remember she sent me more pics over text and the pics weren't attractive so I didn't meet up with her in person.

FarFarAway
12-26-23, 10:51
I tell them how often I want to meet and ask what their ppm is first message. I don't like playing games. It has worked with many girls (I've seen over 20 and all of them were asian LOL) but some girls on these sites really think they are above hookers? Man LOL. What is wrong with this generation of women? If you're going to be a sloot at least own up to it. THat is why I quit dating normies. They are soo full of themselves ggrrr makes my blood boil.Sounds like you are breaching the TOS of the seeking site, and as soon as that becomes apparent to the mods, you'll get banned. It is pretty hard to get back on, they have ways to tell it is someone they've seen before trying to get a new profile. So, 'enjoy' it while you can.

Citrus1999
12-26-23, 11:05
Her look and body is a 7 so no need to feel that you missed out on a hottie. She's actually in her mid or late 20's now LOL.Had dinner with this one but had zero chemistry. I usually do really well on m&g's but she has no personality whatsoever. It was exhausting having to keep asking her questions to strike up conversations. F is about a 7, body maybe a 6, tall, nice tits but not toned. She was nice but I did not schedule a second date.

UnknownSD
12-26-23, 12:02
Had dinner with this one but had zero chemistry. I usually do really well on m&g's but she has no personality whatsoever. It was exhausting having to keep asking her questions to strike up conversations. F is about a 7, body maybe a 6, tall, nice tits but not toned. She was nice but I did not schedule a second date.Your review is very accurate. I was more generous and gave her a 7 for her body LOL.

StevenWalker
12-26-23, 13:45
Had dinner with this one but had zero chemistry. I usually do really well on m&g's but she has no personality whatsoever. It was exhausting having to keep asking her questions to strike up conversations. F is about a 7, body maybe a 6, tall, nice tits but not toned. She was nice but I did not schedule a second date.Geez bro. Thanks for helping me dodge a bullet. Personality is HUGE for me. I don't see boring girls. I need a girl who can flirt with me and make me feel like teenagers in love. Not dealing with lame girls. That's why I quit dating apps a long time ago. Too much autism / lack of effort.

Please tell me you didn't pay her for the meet and greet?

Ace McNasty
12-27-23, 11:58
I received a PM to share some of the hotter SBs on SA.

ItsBrittneyBaby. She's a model and has a profile on ModelMayhem. She does nude modeling and has a nude yoga instructional video on truenakedyoga.com. She's not tall at 5'4" and has a very fit body. Her looks are an 8 and her body is an 8. Her allowance is negotiable. She's been inactive on SA for a while so not sure when she will return.

https://members.seeking.com/member/20544ceb-e8e0-4c6b-952c-a27306fd70c7This Brittney looks like my current blonde 19 yo SB.

FarFarAway
12-27-23, 13:04
This Brittney looks like my current blonde 19 yo SB.Is there any young model in the 213 area code who you haven't banged?

UnknownSD
12-27-23, 13:36
This Brittney looks like my current blonde 19 yo SB.Can't tell. Can't see your SB's face LOL.

Citrus1999
12-27-23, 14:39
Geez bro. Thanks for helping me dodge a bullet. Personality is HUGE for me. I don't see boring girls. I need a girl who can flirt with me and make me feel like teenagers in love. Not dealing with lame girls. That's why I quit dating apps a long time ago. Too much autism / lack of effort.

Please tell me you didn't pay her for the meet and greet?I NEVER pay for m&g. I already know it's a bad start if girl insist on getting paid for their "time. " no intimacy, no sugar, period.

HollywoodGuy
12-27-23, 15:24
You'll probably be surprised if I tell you this. I don't even have a single photo posted on my SA profile. So it's not all about looks but how well you write your first message to the girls. The girls on SA are not looking for hot model-looking guys since they know what SA is about, but looking for sincere mature gentlemen to take care of them. You just have to present yourself as a gentleman and if they're interested in what you have to offer to them then they will respond. So the girls who responded to my messages don't even know what I look like so looks don't matter initially.I would say looks matter only in terms of what they are going to ask. Obviously if you excel in the looks or personality dept it's going to help get you a lower rate. But no SB I have ever met has turned down a date based on those two things. If they are in no way attracted to you they are just going to ask more. But they are not totally lame. They know the higher the rate the greater the expectations are going to be.

Which is a ploy I have used many times in reverse. Offer very little but say you respect their boundaries. If the chemistry is there the boundaries get moved pretty fast. And if not or she is just a little more professional, well I will still make the most of whatever they are willing to give and then move on. I have never given in to an upsell, not even once in my life. They can take it or leave it and I can do the same.

Sometimes they will even call back and I just have to politely tell them I pay what I can afford, sorry. Recently lost my most regular regular. She met my live in GF and just decided she didn't want to compete. That was a 3-4 year arrangement. I guess she figured she had no chance of ever getting paid more. And she was right. Also had another great regular in L. A. That raised her rate. Hit it maybe 100+ times in 4 years. But sorry just can't do it anymore.

If money was no object I would probably feel differently. Just my current situation. A classic case of a middling wage earner in a Bidenomics economy.

FarFarAway
12-27-23, 18:30
This perspective, from one of the most experienced SDs on this site, shows that guys who message girls on the site, ask their ppms, and then post them here are wasting their time. Getting to 'yes' w / a SB is a negotiation. Or it should be. The response girls give to those messages (from among the *hundreds* they get) are like the MSRP on a new car. It is their standard, wished-for sugar. That doesn't mean they might not get involved in a much different scenario than they are thinking about for a much different amount.


I would say looks matter only in terms of what they are going to ask. Obviously if you excel in the looks or personality dept it's going to help get you a lower rate. But no SB I have ever met has turned down a date based on those two things. If they are in no way attracted to you they are just going to ask more. But they are not totally lame. They know the higher the rate the greater the expectations are going to be.

Which is a ploy I have used many times in reverse. Offer very little but say you respect their boundaries. If the chemistry is there the boundaries get moved pretty fast. And if not or she is just a little more professional, well I will still make the most of whatever they are willing to give and then move on. I have never given in to an upsell, not even once in my life. They can take it or leave it and I can do the same.

Sometimes they will even call back and I just have to politely tell them I pay what I can afford, sorry. Recently lost my most regular regular. She met my live in GF and just decided she didn't want to compete. That was a 3-4 year arrangement. I guess she figured she had no chance of ever getting paid more. And she was right. Also had another great regular in L. A. That raised her rate. Hit it maybe 100+ times in 4 years. But sorry just can't do it anymore.

If money was no object I would probably feel differently. Just my current situation. A classic case of a middling wage earner in a Bidenomics economy.

WubbaDubz80
12-27-23, 19:45
Hey guys. Visiting from out of town. What is "normal" ppm in LA? 600-700? Thanks.

Uncountable
12-27-23, 20:15
Your review is very accurate. I was more generous and gave her a 7 for her body LOL.Bro, I am not trying to count your pocket or anything like that but do you have a set monthly budget on these SBs or do you just spend whatever? I would go broke if I indulged myself this much. However, I used to pick a month in a year where I would spend almost 10 grand on quality SBs. That lasted until 2 years ago and I am quite frugal now. Anyway, thanks for your contributions to this thread. Much appreciated.

StevenWalker
12-27-23, 20:28
I NEVER pay for m&g. I already know it's a bad start if girl insist on getting paid for their "time. " no intimacy, no sugar, period.Based as hell my dude. Down with simps who pay before getting the fishhole.

StevenWalker
12-27-23, 20:56
Hey guys. Visiting from out of town. What is "normal" ppm in LA? 600-700? Thanks.300-1 k is normal IMO. I never had trouble with 500 (my go to) but definitely have been laughed at by some girls LOL.

UnknownSD
12-27-23, 21:06
Bro, I am not trying to count your pocket or anything like that but do you have a set monthly budget on these SBs or do you just spend whatever? I would go broke if I indulged myself this much. However, I used to pick a month in a year where I would spend almost 10 grand on quality SBs. That lasted until 2 years ago and I am quite frugal now. Anyway, thanks for your contributions to this thread. Much appreciated.You're welcome. I don't have a set budget. Honestly, if you need to set a budget for sugaring, maybe consider focusing on your work and achieving financial freedom before doing sugaring. Sugaring is always around so no need to rush into it.

NitroHX
12-27-23, 23:23
Based as hell my dude. Down with simps who pay before getting the fishhole.I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.

UnknownSD
12-28-23, 11:36
This perspective, from one of the most experienced SDs on this site, shows that guys who message girls on the site, ask their ppms, and then post them here are wasting their time. Getting to 'yes' w / a SB is a negotiation. Or it should be. The response girls give to those messages (from among the *hundreds* they get) are like the MSRP on a new car. It is their standard, wished-for sugar. That doesn't mean they might not get involved in a much different scenario than they are thinking about for a much different amount.I'm guessing your comments are about my reviews since I'm the only one posting SB reviews recently. Maybe my reviews are useless to you but that's unfortunate because other members have found it useful and have shared their support. I agree with you that my reviews on SB's ppm are useless information to those who are fake daddies because they don't offer any and dislike it when other SDs offer it to SBs. After all, it just makes it harder for fake daddies to manipulate them.

FarFarAway
12-28-23, 12:46
I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.YK, seeking has a companion website, whatsyourprice, where you are negotiating w / a girl for just the public date portion. I was recently invited by seeking to transfer my profile over to that site, they were going to give me 50 free credits to message girls. However, as I have a SO, I can't really do too much regular dating, so I haven't seriously considered this.

If anyone wants to TOFTT by getting a WYP membership, I would be interested to know about it. Of course it is possible that once you have had that initial date w / them, it could turn into something more, civvy or sugar.

UnknownSD
12-28-23, 12:48
I paid a Swiss chick 200 for a dinner date and it was the best investment ever. This girl was smoking hot, legit IG influencer. She's an easy 9.

I used to pay her 600 ppm but over time she would come over for 300-400. Saw her 2-3 x a week.

She had trust issues and doing the dinner really made her feel at ease.I'm glad this method has worked out for you. It has worked 0/3 for me so far and hesitant to try again.

GreenB909
12-28-23, 13:55
This Brittney looks like my current blonde 19 yo SB.Yeah so if you ever get tired of her, send over her number!

FarFarAway
12-28-23, 16:58
I'm guessing your comments are about my reviews since I'm the only one posting SB reviews recently. Maybe my reviews are useless to you but that's unfortunate because other members have found it useful and have shared their support. I agree with you that my reviews on SB's ppm are useless information to those who are fake daddies because they don't offer any and dislike it when other SDs offer it to SBs. After all, it just makes it harder for fake daddies to manipulate them.Don't flatter yourself. I read several sugar threads across the US (Atlanta, Vegas, Richmond), to get general information about how people are sugaring, and they do it on all of them.

Lexx1
12-28-23, 17:52
Man hearing some of the numbers being thrown around here lately is loco. 400 to 1000. I make good money and could afford higher ppms. I'm not rich but could still manage them. But why? I started in this game finding non-pros on Craigslist. With some dabbling on SA back then. You could find the same quality of girls on SA back then on CL for around 100-140,200 tops for an overnight. SA was always a bit more back then too. But not the amounts being thrown around now. Straight up asking for a PPM amount is not good. I've always negotiated. And if a chic is expecting a lot more. Then I'm like bye bye. I don't give in as well to buy up. I've said it before. I don't care how hot a girl is. If it's way more than I want to spend. Then bye bye. Had that happen with a hot Persian chic that wanted to upsell right at the meetup. After we had already negotiated beforehand. I was like nope, bye. My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugarbaby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugarbaby. I will keep negotiating.

NitroHX
12-28-23, 20:09
YK, seeking has a companion website, whatsyourprice, where you are negotiating w / a girl for just the public date portion. I was recently invited by seeking to transfer my profile over to that site, they were going to give me 50 free credits to message girls. However, as I have a SO, I can't really do too much regular dating, so I haven't seriously considered this.

If anyone wants to TOFTT by getting a WYP membership, I would be interested to know about it. Of course it is possible that once you have had that initial date w / them, it could turn into something more, civvy or sugar.I am aware of whatsyourprice. The caliber of girls doesn't seem as great. Out of the 80-90 girls I've met from seeking, I've only attempted to do the dinner first thing with 4 girls with whom only one of them was dinner plus payment. All four of these girls were 8,9's and all four became longish term (at least 4 months).

I'm in SF right now and about to have drinks (no payment) with a 7.I'm pretty sure I can get her in my hotel afterwards. BTW, the caliber of girls here in SF is underwhelming compared to LA!

NitroHX
12-28-23, 20:17
Man hearing some of the numbers being thrown around here lately is loco. 400 to 1000. I make good money and could afford higher ppms. I'm not rich but could still manage them. But why? I started in this game finding non-pros on Craigslist. With some dabbling on SA back then. You could find the same quality of girls on SA back then on CL for around 100-140,200 tops for an overnight. SA was always a bit more back then too. But not the amounts being thrown around now. Straight up asking for a PPM amount is not good. I've always negotiated. And if a chic is expecting a lot more. Then I'm like bye bye. I don't give in as well to buy up. I've said it before. I don't care how hot a girl is. If it's way more than I want to spend. Then bye bye. Had that happen with a hot Persian chic that wanted to upsell right at the meetup. After we had already negotiated beforehand. I was like nope, bye. My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugarbaby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugarbaby. I will keep negotiating.You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.

Lexx1
12-28-23, 22:22
You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.I'm not going to say I'm a hot looking or pretty boy type of dude. I have a few extra pounds on me but I lift weights. And I consider myself handsome in a manly way, old school good looks. I still date regular civie girls. But taking them out on dates doesn't always guarantee you'll get into their panties later. Which is why I also do P4 P. You are guaranteed to get that booty and don't spend time / money wining and dining. Which surprised alot of girls when I was finding them on Craigslist. Since you didn't know what each other looked like until you exchanged pics. They would ask why are you doing this. You're good looking and I'd date you in real life. And I'd explain the same thing. That dating doesn't always guarantee desert at the end. And this is the quickest way to it. They were understanding after that.

I like to negotiate. It's a challenge to me to see how low of a price I can get you at. I also grew up knowing the value of a hard earned dollar. Which alot of the younger generation nowadays don't appreciate including these girls. Pussy should be free. These girls give it away all the time, sometimes just for dinner other times for nothing. It's not rocket science to make love. So it shouldn't be that expensive when paying for it.

FarFarAway
12-29-23, 00:59
I am aware of whatsyourprice. The caliber of girls doesn't seem as great. Out of the 80-90 girls I've met from seeking, I've only attempted to do the dinner first thing with 4 girls with whom only one of them was dinner plus payment. All four of these girls were 8,9's and all four became longish term (at least 4 months).

I'm in SF right now and about to have drinks (no payment) with a 7.I'm pretty sure I can get her in my hotel afterwards. BTW, the caliber of girls here in SF is underwhelming compared to LA!Yeah, I spent about 15 years up there. So, their team, it's the 49 ers, right? We used to talk about a lot of the girls being 49 ers also. DYK what that means? It's girls who are really 4's but think they are 9's.

LOL.

FarFarAway
12-29-23, 01:03
You seem to have great negotiating methods or have other things working for you. I'm a very normal looking dude who doesn't like to waste time. I see a girl and I have a price in mind. I used to freely toss out 500-600 and that got me 80% of my picks. This allowed me to see 2-3 new girls per week with 1-2 main weekly girls.Just for curiosity today, I scanned the local talent on tryst. I am not really interested in the escort experience, but I wondered about the lay of the land. There are some women there who are the quality (appearance at least) of my best SBs, but they were wanting 8, 9, or more for a date. So, heck, if you are getting a quality person who you might see again at that price point, it seems like a good deal.

It is a lot less work to go to an escort, w / a corresponding convenience fee. I would also be worried about my OpSec since I have an SO. Some of the girls were wanting real names, photos, etc. I get their concern, but.

Egor2011
12-29-23, 02:45
Here's some more insight for the group:

Twinkle:

https://members.seeking.com/member/3527b9cd-556c-4277-9435-febad01ba8bc

https://twitter.com/twinkleestars_

If you want a tattooed alt barbie type Twinkle is fun. She is a makeup artist so she always wears a lot of makeup. And then all the LA stereotypes. Big fake tits, and injected lips. She doesn't really like people watching her eat so not the type you take to dinner. She's not the best kisser. She's pretty good at BBBJ and likes to choke on it but lacks stamina. She has a wild streak though and we've had some fun in the car which was a good time. She's really really tiny in every way. Good times. Definitely on the pro side and 600.

Tati:

https://members.seeking.com/member/d2ee602b-b711-4b04-851e-c73825272d27

This girl has a handful of profiles. I have seen her when she first joined for 500. Since then I think she's gone off the deep end and had someone managing her account and then maybe got another account of her own. Though that's a bit unclear as she's been a total flake still.

Her booker has a stable of other girls the latest of which is:

https://members.seeking.com/member/19c3cb3b-e0d9-452f-9c59-e10fa438826f

Pass for me.

Francesca:

https://members.seeking.com/member/79eefc57-ab94-48c6-8c2e-957742c49956

Wants a paid dinner to start. I explained that a M&G is unpaid and certainly not a full sugar type deal. Couldn't find a place to meet in the middle as she wouldn't go less than 400 for dinner and a blowjob.

Belle:

https://members.seeking.com/member/f62a93ee-8803-42c1-b59a-9b455cd55bba

Desperate pro. Her profile photos and more photos she sent me look like very different people. She explained she wears all kinds of different wigs and has a bunch of new tattoos. It felt weird to me how different they were. She was down to get together for 400 and was very persistent texting me all the time trying to meet up.

Murrican
12-29-23, 10:26
Yeah, I spent about 15 years up there. So, their team, it's the 49 ers, right? We used to talk about a lot of the girls being 49 ers also. DYK what that means? It's girls who are really 4's but think they are 9's.

LOL.That's fucking funny.

JackMiles
12-29-23, 10:33
Man hearing some of the numbers being thrown around here lately is loco. 400 to 1000. I make good money and could afford higher ppms. I'm not rich but could still manage them. But why? I started in this game finding non-pros on Craigslist. With some dabbling on SA back then. You could find the same quality of girls on SA back then on CL for around 100-140,200 tops for an overnight. SA was always a bit more back then too. But not the amounts being thrown around now. Straight up asking for a PPM amount is not good. I've always negotiated. And if a chic is expecting a lot more. Then I'm like bye bye. I don't give in as well to buy up. I've said it before. I don't care how hot a girl is. If it's way more than I want to spend. Then bye bye. Had that happen with a hot Persian chic that wanted to upsell right at the meetup. After we had already negotiated beforehand. I was like nope, bye. My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugarbaby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugarbaby. I will keep negotiating.Agree 100%. Great post. Wasn't too long ago when 400 used to be considered GPS territory, but now some of you mongers have made that the bare minimum (no pun intended)

UnknownSD
12-29-23, 12:10
Icybabygirl. Mixed girl in her early 20's. She wants 400-500 for a platonic date. Her looks are a 6. Definite pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d8700d1c-6155-4017-866a-0b006da76c62

KindQueen. Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/35921c98-7100-4ec2-b37a-bc64d5170835

Tanlinesbaby. Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6f900201-f850-4350-ab9d-58fe0609a979

Beebia. Blonde girl in her early 20's. First time sugaring and selective. Looks is a 7. Her body is a 6.

https://members.seeking.com/member/333ad8d7-de16-4eac-a250-9050a02178a9

Lamasbella. White girl in her late 20's. Platonic only. Looks is a 7.

https://members.seeking.com/member/de1dd57b-bc4b-44e5-94a6-d05525378257

Suede. Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a01625d3-1807-43f5-b3a2-caa8e6cc55d6

MysteriousRunner. Fake / Scammer. Keeps taunting you for money. Uses an IG model pics and videos for scamming.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a221d613-3eee-4458-8e43-d5e89f3d565c

FeminineBabe. Her profile pics are fake. Blonde girl in her late 30's or possibly early 40's. Asking for 1 k ppm minimum. Definite pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7d295c3f-f5f9-4d92-896d-728904dcb49a

SwedishPrincess. Swedish blonde girl in her mid or late 20's. She's currently here as a student studying at UCI. She lives in Irvine. She's very friendly and easygoing. However, she's asking for 1 k ppm and a condom only. She is willing to drive to meet you. Her looks are a 7.5 and her body is a 7.

https://members.seeking.com/member/335b52b1-21a8-440b-8412-1a860bbb714d

Prettykitty. Fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f79f2d84-c430-480b-994b-ce0596b45125

Jaym4 ds. Review Part 3 Continued. It turns out she's real. She's super flaky. She's currently working at a retail store and works sporadic hours. She's looking for 1 k-1.5 k ppm and condoms only. Looks is a 7. Her body is a 7. Her upper teeth have yellowish stains and tarter around. She needs to get her teeth cleaned. Kind of a turn-off. Not as attractive as her pics look. She looks better in photos.

https://members.seeking.com/member/45ea1eb2-a769-40e1-ad31-138c37e1e249

HollywoodGuy
12-30-23, 14:44
My MO is negotiating before first meet. I don't usually do meet and greets. Only if the girl wants to do one. That way everything is clear and no need to waste time and money on dinners and such. The expectation is clear and we just meet up at the hotel, ready to go.

If you're a rich dude. Then fine I guess you can throw that money around. But just asking straight out for PPM amount. Is like agreeing to a prostitutes hourly amount. Which is not what a sugar baby is normally meant to be. A non-pro. Doing this is what has driven up the price for a sugar baby. I will keep negotiating.Been doing it this way forever. Sometimes I will do a dinner because I just feel like going on a date like that. In L. A. I had girls coming straight to my place maybe 50% of the time and went to pick them up the other 50%. But in vegas I always go to meet them at or near their residence the first time out. The rate is still negotiated upfront but I just don't feel as secure here as I was in L. A.

My house in the hollywood hills was like a fortress. And most of the time there was already another girl or two in the house (those were the days). Just getting in and out of that place was a bit intimidating so I never worried about any funny business. And more than a few times I would get a room in DTLA if they lived too far away. But in vegas I want to get a good look and feel for the situation before bringing them back to my place. But I have never once met a girl without the rate well agreed upon by both parties in advance.

FarFarAway
12-30-23, 17:39
And every SD gets the one he is looking for / fishing in.

HG goes for a very tight window of SBs, and his practices work for that group, and his situation. I am in a completely different realm. So, if you want to play his way, you'll likely get his experiences.

I have a SO I am dodging, so that cuts out all sorts of his practices. I have also had great sugar dating experiences w / anything from 19 year old college students to 64 year old grandmothers. Their common thread. They really have to be amateurs, and they really had to be hot. My goal in life, as I have said, is to nail as much high quality pussy as I can. Emphasis on the quality, both looks and performance. No dumb bunnies. Almost all have been caucasian. I also spend more than he does on allowance. I have memories to take to my grave, which is the whole point.

HollywoodGuy
12-31-23, 01:37
HG goes for a very tight window of SBsAnd I recommend that to anyone. When you are only looking to nail your version of a 10 the girl is going to feel your passion. In the civi world that may be the deciding factor. But in the bowl although they may appreciate it the more pro they are less it will matter. I am pretty strict when it comes to looks and especially body type. But I also search out a very specific personality type. When I find it all in one I am long gone. And those are the ones that end up being long term.

NitroHX
12-31-23, 06:33
Tati:

https://members.seeking.com/member/d2ee602b-b711-4b04-851e-c73825272d27

This girl has a handful of profiles. I have seen her when she first joined for 500. Since then I think she's gone off the deep end and had someone managing her account and then maybe got another account of her own. Though that's a bit unclear as she's been a total flake still.

This is accurate. I think she messed with a booker in the past but now has her own account. Saw her last year a bunch of times at 400-500. We took a break for months but started seeing her again recently. She has that GND look that I like. 24 yo but looks 18-19. Face is 7. 5, body is 7. 5 and she fits really well down there. She's been accepting much less than 5 lately which is great but I think it's bc I've seen her a bunch. One great thing is she accepts video. It's the vids that make me want to see her again but I think I'm done with her.

She's def more pro or escort type, usually doesn't stay longer than 2 hours and that's a big problem for me. I'm sticking with girls that stay at least 4 hrs and can go 2-3 rounds. This definitely ain't her.

Murrican
12-31-23, 11:49
And every SD gets the one he is looking for / fishing in.

HG goes for a very tight window of SBs, and his practices work for that group, and his situation. I am in a completely different realm. So, if you want to play his way, you'll likely get his experiences.

I have a SO I am dodging, so that cuts out all sorts of his practices. I have also had great sugar dating experiences w / anything from 19 year old college students to 64 year old grandmothers. Their common thread. They really have to be amateurs, and they really had to be hot. My goal in life, as I have said, is to nail as much high quality pussy as I can. Emphasis on the quality, both looks and performance. No dumb bunnies. Almost all have been caucasian. I also spend more than he does on allowance. I have memories to take to my grave, which is the whole point.We are quite the same in this regard. I only bang 18-23, hot, no or tiny tattoos, non pro. I would just rather have nothing than something out of my target zone, which is probably owed to being middle aged and married to a middle aged wife and being familiar with the notion of settling in the sex world. I pay generously, and I am willing to take nothing instead of something suboptimal.

On a separate notes, I often wonder what life would be like if I were single and just maintained a harem of sugar babies. Like always had some young girls over when I wanted sex or company.

Then I realize that's stupid. After a night of sex I often just want these dumb girls to go away. And I realize it's like going on a great vacation and wondering why it would be like to buy a second home there and always be able to do it. Which is like the stupidest thing people with resources do. There's a true benefit to novelty and intermittence. Taking those away is like having pizza every night and trying to enjoy it.

Hope I keep this perspective.

UnknownSD
12-31-23, 12:19
Just curious what other member's ratings are like. Care to share some of your 8, 9, 10's? You can just share their username or photo if any. Most of their profile links are probably gone.

I'll share one. Her username is Mia. She's a model 5'9". She's tall and skinny with a perfect complexion and body. Her looks and body are a 10.

AppleSauce87
12-31-23, 13:02
Anyone just get kinda depressed reading these threads? Just a bunch of delusional people asking for absurd amounts. It seems like the delusions have grown over the years. Of course able to negotiate down, I do so a bunch. But the fact these numbers even get asked.

UnknownSD
12-31-23, 13:55
Tati:

https://members.seeking.com/member/d2ee602b-b711-4b04-851e-c73825272d27

This girl has a handful of profiles. I have seen her when she first joined for 500. Since then I think she's gone off the deep end and had someone managing her account and then maybe got another account of her own. Though that's a bit unclear as she's been a total flake still.

This is accurate. I think she messed with a booker in the past but now has her own account. Saw her last year a bunch of times at 400-500. We took a break for months but started seeing her again recently. She has that GND look that I like. 24 yo but looks 18-19. Face is 7. 5, body is 7. 5 and she fits really well down there. She's been accepting much less than 5 lately which is great but I think it's bc I've seen her a bunch. One great thing is she accepts video. It's the vids that make me want to see her again but I think I'm done with her.

She's def more pro or escort type, usually doesn't stay longer than 2 hours and that's a big problem for me. I'm sticking with girls that stay at least 4 hrs and can go 2-3 rounds. This definitely ain't her.I believe I reviewed her before previously. She's asking for $700 ppm now but negotiable. She's BBFS. She lives in Victorville and comes down to LA to do her sugaring. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6-7. She has big warts around her nose and mouth area, possibly she has HPV. That's a turn-off for me. Definite pass.

NitroHX
12-31-23, 15:00
I believe I reviewed her before previously. She's asking for $700 ppm now but negotiable. She's BBFS. She lives in Victorville and comes down to LA to do her sugaring. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6-7. She has big warts around her nose and mouth area, possibly she has HPV. That's a turn-off for me. Definite pass.I'm watching a vid of her rn and don't notice any warts. She does have natural moles around her nose and cheek area. Regardless, I'll get tested soon. She's GND looks which I like so my ratings are slightly higher. Great sized breasts for how small she is.

Murrican
12-31-23, 15:04
Anyone just get kinda depressed reading these threads? Just a bunch of delusional people asking for absurd amounts. It seems like the delusions have grown over the years. Of course able to negotiate down, I do so a bunch. But the fact these numbers even get asked.Don't discount the impact of monetary policy and inflation. Those of us in the business world saw that PPP and ERTC and stimulus checks lifted the tide of monetary supply across the board. When a recession takes hold in 2024, there will be a correction. It's like home prices. Everyone thinks their house is worth what it was worth at the top of some cycle in the past. And it takes a year or so of new comps in your neighborhood to finally make you realize that your home is no longer worth that amount. Girls who asked and got 750-1000 will change once the number of guys willing to pay that much goes down. Or they'll exit and a new crop of young girls (and there's always a new crop. That's the beauty of the passage of time) will not be tethered to a past that no longer exists.

UnknownSD
12-31-23, 15:29
Anyone just get kinda depressed reading these threads? Just a bunch of delusional people asking for absurd amounts. It seems like the delusions have grown over the years. Of course able to negotiate down, I do so a bunch. But the fact these numbers even get asked.Prices have gone way up in the past 2 years. If you're not used to seeing these high numbers, then it can feel uncomfortable / depressing. In a lot of posts, you see members post ppm but they don't post a rating with it so it's really hard to tell if it's overpriced or undervalued. It's like comparing apples with oranges or like a Prius vs Ferrari vs Bugatti. You can still find plenty of 5's and 6's and sometimes 7's in the 300-500 ppm range on Seeking but just not the 8's, 9's, and 10's.

NitroHX
12-31-23, 15:36
I believe I reviewed her before previously. She's asking for $700 ppm now but negotiable. She's BBFS. She lives in Victorville and comes down to LA to do her sugaring. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6-7. She has big warts around her nose and mouth area, possibly she has HPV. That's a turn-off for me. Definite pass.I'm watching a vid of her rn and don't notice any warts. She does have natural moles around her nose and cheek area. Regardless, I'll get tested soon. She's GND looks which I like so my ratings are slightly higher. Great sized breasts for how small she is.

MrBlueSea
12-31-23, 15:41
Just curious what other member's ratings are like. Care to share some of your 8, 9, 10's? You can just share their username or photo if any. Most of their profile links are probably gone.

I'll share one. Her username is Mia. She's a model 5'9". She's tall and skinny with a perfect complexion and body. Her looks and body are a 10.Can you share a link?

UnknownSD
12-31-23, 15:48
Here are some budget SBs.

Lex: She's a short young Latino girl who lives in Palmdale. Before she was platonic only but after her last SD she's now BB. She has an e-commerce store and does social media promotions. She's asking for 700 ppm but is willing to accept 400 ppm if she connects with you. She is willing to drive to meet you. Her looks are 6. 5-7 and her body is a 6.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4e285e47-56a5-4cf9-bfcc-4a3336b5f42c

Vasilyeva: Tall white girl in her 30's. She has been on SA for a few years. She's 500 ppm. She will do a video chat prior. Her looks are a 7 and her body is an 8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a3ee1072-5826-4ec6-b04c-8f2c0495f7d3

Mel24. Latino girl in her late 20's. She's from South America. She's BB. Her looks are a 6. 5 and her body is a 6. Her breasts are enhanced. She's a maid and does house cleaning. She currently has a long-term SD and will return to SA after it ends. She's 500 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3ee21d6f-5515-4fca-abaf-adee862b7aa8

UnknownSD
12-31-23, 15:49
Can you share a link?She has already deleted her profile.

RunRun85
12-31-23, 17:09
Been using seeking for years but seems like the number of actual college girls on there keeps getting smaller. Has anyone tried secret benefits? Any better in terms of number of college girls?

AppleSauce87
12-31-23, 22:53
Don't discount the impact of monetary policy and inflation. Those of us in the business world saw that PPP and ERTC and stimulus checks lifted the tide of monetary supply across the board. When a recession takes hold in 2024, there will be a correction. It's like home prices. Everyone thinks their house is worth what it was worth at the top of some cycle in the past. And it takes a year or so of new comps in your neighborhood to finally make you realize that your home is no longer worth that amount. Girls who asked and got 750-1000 will change once the number of guys willing to pay that much goes down. Or they'll exit and a new crop of young girls (and there's always a new crop. That's the beauty of the passage of time) will not be tethered to a past that no longer exists.Idk, I can see this keep going up without recession. Lots of weird economics going on, heading towards more oligarchy. Even if there was recession, I think some women have capitalized on You can have the entire world population pay you small amounts instead of just a city. Freaking entire companies have formed to manage OF accounts for a cut.

HollywoodGuy
01-01-24, 02:10
On a separate notes, I often wonder what life would be like if I were single and just maintained a harem of sugar babies. Like always had some young girls over when I wanted sex or company.Been there done that. It was fun while it lasted (10 years) and expensive but worth it. Honestly like the most fun I ever had in my life. But settled down now for the foreseeable future.

UnknownSD
01-01-24, 14:25
Been using seeking for years but seems like the number of actual college girls on there keeps getting smaller. Has anyone tried secret benefits? Any better in terms of number of college girls?Most of the girls on SB are on Seeking. There are fewer new SBs on Seeking or on any sugar dating website / app due to the increase in Fake Daddies / Salt Daddies. 2023 was a very slow year for the number of new SBs on Seeking.

UnknownSD
01-01-24, 16:29
Has anyone gotten this message on Seeking? I got it a few times already. Has anyone tried it out? I'm pretty sure it's a scam. The numbers don't add up. They should be bankrupt already running this kind of event. The cost to run such an event is more than what they are making from each member. Has anyone heard of Sanctum from 2014 to 2015? It was unprofitable and was sold off and eventually shut down.

"How are you doing today! Have you been invited to LOVE previously? We invite a select few to LOVE, where we host intimate private themed fantasy events hosted by all sugar girls (LOVE girls) across all major cities of the world which include Dubai, London, Mumbai, Bucharest, NYC, LA, Vegas, Miami, San Francisco, Singapore, HongKong, Bangkok and 75 other cities. These are private individual events (No two members interact with each other, events are both BDSM / Kink and Romantic / Vanilla based). LOVE is for those with extremely deep pockets and for those who only want the absolute best of companions and experiences. Interested? Please reach out on telegram at loveunicorn9 and I shall redirect you to LOVE".

FarFarAway
01-01-24, 16:46
Been there done that. It was fun while it lasted (10 years) and expensive but worth it. Honestly like the most fun I ever had in my life. But settled down now for the foreseeable future.I have also thought of what would happen if a magic wand was waved and my SO didn't exist anymore. I would have some difficulty controlling my ability to get and partake of a wide variety of quite desirable women. I could not overspend my bank account. It is probably a good thing for me this could never happen. I, like HG, would have incredible fun, and take those memories to my grave.

Omfgitzjin
01-01-24, 17:06
Here are some budget SBs.

Lex: She's a short young Latino girl who lives in Palmdale. Before she was platonic only but after her last SD she's now BB. She has an e-commerce store and does social media promotions. She's asking for 700 ppm but is willing to accept 400 ppm if she connects with you. She is willing to drive to meet you. Her looks are 6. 5-7 and her body is a 6.

https://members.seeking.com/member/4e285e47-56a5-4cf9-bfcc-4a3336b5f42c
Lex's tits look huge! I love those on a petite frame. Is she chubby? Or a super push up bra?

UnknownSD
01-01-24, 17:50
Lex's tits look huge! I love those on a petite frame. Is she chubby? Or a super push up bra?She's short and has an athletic / wide frame but her breasts are all natural.

FullyHedged
01-01-24, 22:56
Central LA, near me and seemed very promising (and pretty).

Until she asked for $900 ppm (she can't host, will line up space). I countered $500 and she ghosted me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a36e81f6-5490-418e-a496-f4036603f883

UnknownSD
01-02-24, 10:53
Central LA, near me and seemed very promising (and pretty).

Until she asked for $900 ppm (she can't host, will line up space). I countered $500 and she ghosted me.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a36e81f6-5490-418e-a496-f4036603f883From her profile pics, her look is a 6 to me.

FarFarAway
01-03-24, 13:03
I have been active on SA for a few years. Made contact w / hundreds of women off the site. Sometimes these contacts drop. I have always been nice to people unless they weren't nice to me. This is paying dividends. I thought about getting a new membership w / the new year. However, people have begun appearing in my text inbox who I was in touch w / in the past. Out of the blue. In some cases, a year or two old. I don't have any shortage of POTs these days, why do I need to complicate my life w / more girls to juggle by being active on the site?

Still, I can't resist getting on and browsing. Sometimes, I see someone I was in touch w / before, and given I keep records, I can go back and figure out if I have their number, I can text them to revive the interaction. Obviously, they are now active on the site, IK they are looking for a SD. I had a very nice convo w / a Indian-American girl yesterday, I last messaged her 18 months ago. A real bucket list item for me; I am hoping I can turn that into something.

NitroHX
01-03-24, 20:48
I have been active on SA for a few years. Made contact w / hundreds of women off the site. Sometimes these contacts drop. I have always been nice to people unless they weren't nice to me. This is paying dividends. I thought about getting a new membership w / the new year. However, people have begun appearing in my text inbox who I was in touch w / in the past. Out of the blue. In some cases, a year or two old. I don't have any shortage of POTs these days, why do I need to complicate my life w / more girls to juggle by being active on the site?

Still, I can't resist getting on and browsing. Sometimes, I see someone I was in touch w / before, and given I keep records, I can go back and figure out if I have their number, I can text them to revive the interaction. Obviously, they are now active on the site, IK they are looking for a SD. I had a very nice convo w / a Indian-American girl yesterday, I last messaged her 18 months ago. A real bucket list item for me; I am hoping I can turn that into something.I'm sure your batting average is pretty high so no luck needed.

If she doesn't bite, maybe overpay your usual by 20% to fulfill a dream?

StevenWalker
01-04-24, 01:00
You guys were 100% right. She was a nice girl but definitely lacking in the rizz department and I can't do fobs. There's just no connection with them. I give her face a 5 and body a 6. I do not plan on seeing her again. Give me a hot asian baby girl with a cheerleader personality and a brown asshole please.

StevenWalker
01-04-24, 01:11
Ok guys. How is Chloe? I have a m&g wtih her soon.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a0d02de6-189d-44ed-aa4b-485939e7ea9c

She's hot as hell to me.

UnknownSD
01-04-24, 11:02
Ok guys. How is Chloe? I have a m&g wtih her soon.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a0d02de6-189d-44ed-aa4b-485939e7ea9c

She's hot as hell to me.I have reviewed her before in my reviews. She looks hotter in pics but in person only a 6-7. She's Filipino and very short. She has a full-time job so she's selective as to who she meets.

ChefSolo
01-04-24, 12:05
You guys were 100% right. She was a nice girl but definitely lacking in the rizz department and I can't do fobs. There's just no connection with them. I give her face a 5 and body a 6. I do not plan on seeing her again. Give me a hot asian baby girl with a cheerleader personality and a brown asshole please.Who are you talking about?

FarFarAway
01-04-24, 16:02
I'm sure your batting average is pretty high so no luck needed.

If she doesn't bite, maybe overpay your usual by 20% to fulfill a dream?Aww, I don't think so. I describe it as a lottery ticket problem. The more you buy the better your chances.

That Indian girl, yes I would overextend myself. But I got to get the fish in the boat.

Recently I did something similar w / a girl I have posted about, goes to CSULB. True 19 years old, IK all her personal info. Sexy and seductive at the M&G. Claimed to have gotten 800 per in the past. I never dispute girls on that kind of shit, just said I couldn't do that. Based on what she claimed, though, you can't really low-ball and expect much return, so I said I could do 600. That is the absolute most I have ever given. I also mentioned I wanted to get it down to a reasonable monthly if we wanted to continue. She didn't like that last part. Anyway, I saw her a couple of times, she did permit me to take a totally nude pic that is filed away, no big concerns w / her performance or anything. There is just something about a 19 year old body, though her boobs weren't the perky firm mounds I had hoped. Anyway, I have tried to resurrect our FCs, w / a lower, sustainable allowance, and her response was she was already low for her at 600, so no. Oh well. I did get her in the boat, and have a memory of her I can take to my grave. I didn't piss anyone off, and who knows what is in the future.

Chupacabra
01-04-24, 17:26
Has anyone gotten this message on Seeking? I got it a few times already. Has anyone tried it out? I'm pretty sure it's a scam. The numbers don't add up. They should be bankrupt already running this kind of event. The cost to run such an event is more than what they are making from each member. Has anyone heard of Sanctum from 2014 to 2015? It was unprofitable and was sold off and eventually shut down.

"How are you doing today! Have you been invited to LOVE previously? We invite a select few to LOVE, where we host intimate private themed fantasy events hosted by all sugar girls (LOVE girls) across all major cities of the world which include Dubai, London, Mumbai, Bucharest, NYC, LA, Vegas, Miami, San Francisco, Singapore, HongKong, Bangkok and 75 other cities. These are private individual events (No two members interact with each other, events are both BDSM / Kink and Romantic / Vanilla based). LOVE is for those with extremely deep pockets and for those who only want the absolute best of companions and experiences. Interested? Please reach out on telegram at loveunicorn9 and I shall redirect you to LOVE".Yeah I got it. I just ignored it, seemed scammy or even if it's real, probably Platinum Pussy Syndrome instead of just Gold.

Chupacabra
01-04-24, 17:28
Ok guys. How is Chloe? I have a m&g wtih her soon.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a0d02de6-189d-44ed-aa4b-485939e7ea9c

She's hot as hell to me.I'm blocked so it must not have gone well.

StevenWalker
01-04-24, 22:37
I have reviewed her before in my reviews. She looks hotter in pics but in person only a 6-7. She's Filipino and very short. She has a full-time job so she's selective as to who she meets.Dang bro. I may have to ghost her. The other girl you gave a 7 was a 5 to me so I'm scared she's going to be a 4 in my eyes LOL. How is her personality if you don't mind me asking? Personality is huge for me. I like bubbly cheerleader types. I can't do aspies.

UnknownSD
01-04-24, 23:07
Dang bro. I may have to ghost her. The other girl you gave a 7 was a 5 to me so I'm scared she's going to be a 4 in my eyes LOL. How is her personality if you don't mind me asking? Personality is huge for me. I like bubbly cheerleader types. I can't do aspies.She's fluent in English so she's not fobby but she wasn't my type so it was hard for me to keep the conversation going. I just wanted to leave but had to pretend I was interested because I didn't want to be rude LOL.

StevenWalker
01-04-24, 23:16
Heidikinnns.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8405aced-0866-4726-ac3e-f1e300fb8a69

Been trying to blow her back out for the past 8 years. She always ignores me though. Anyone have any luck with her?

UnknownSD
01-05-24, 12:03
Mulanis: She's a Latino girl in her mid or late 20's. She's been on SA before with different usernames. She does BBFS and CIP for 400 ppm. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 7. She's a pro since she offers incall to her place in DTLA. Will only meet up for arrangements.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8d50984b-aa86-4c3d-b306-88cc5a4bb768

ChefSolo
01-05-24, 13:40
Says she's an adult actress. Wants 800 ppm. Does anyone know what she performs under? Is she worth it?

https://members.seeking.com/member/03bf1aa8-2f91-46a9-9cd9-c4b5fc0f2f03

MrBlueSea
01-06-24, 15:33
Mulanis: She's a Latino girl in her mid or late 20's. She's been on SA before with different usernames. She does BBFS and CIP for 400 ppm. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 7. She's a pro since she offers incall to her place in DTLA. Will only meet up for arrangements.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8d50984b-aa86-4c3d-b306-88cc5a4bb768Think she told me she used to do porn when she was 18.

FistaCuffs
01-06-24, 16:09
Says she's an adult actress. Wants 800 ppm. Does anyone know what she performs under? Is she worth it?

https://members.seeking.com/member/03bf1aa8-2f91-46a9-9cd9-c4b5fc0f2f03https://www.brazzers.com/pornstar/82661/susie-stellar

UnknownSD
01-08-24, 15:17
ClassyGirlie: She's a white dirty blonde girl in her late 20's. She's currently studying to become a therapist. She's very attractive and has a nice complexion. She's looking for 5 k monthly or 1 k ppm. Condom only. Her looks are 8. 5 and her body is 8.5.

https://members.seeking.com/member/09bce2d9-cf2c-44c3-862c-3c553595ae42

UnknownSD
01-08-24, 18:07
List of fake / scammer profiles.

Gorgeousbabe.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ed8c93e8-070d-4a5b-b4fd-f746fcb5ecb7

Blueberries2244.

https://members.seeking.com/member/56c997b2-82f2-4004-b526-795d1f2cea89

VerySubby.

https://members.seeking.com/member/353c0817-a9fa-4e98-be0f-7f19d0727608

Margot.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c671aade-4298-4ebf-ac0e-271cd8d8257d

Hotpsychologist.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e05fdcbe-5215-4c76-92f2-69e51385187f

BeachGal S.

https://members.seeking.com/member/236251db-4477-4a76-a5fa-48f51b399eaf

SBlover
01-08-24, 21:00
Been trying to get this girl with zero response. Anyone here have an experience with her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9b6fb80d-2da1-417b-9a99-dc0a55937eb2

Lexx1
01-08-24, 21:38
Been trying to get this girl with zero response. Anyone here have an experience with her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9b6fb80d-2da1-417b-9a99-dc0a55937eb2Her profile sounds like she's pretty stuck up and has a stick up her ass. One of my peeves with some of these girls profiles is when they say, don't waste my time. My response in my head is fuck you then b*tch. I won't waste my time on you. Read these girls profiles guys carefully first. Don't just look at the pretty pictures and shoot off a message. This one is specific about what she wants and something in your profile, looks or what you messaged her, ain't it.

StevenWalker
01-08-24, 23:58
These broads really think I'm going to pay to jestermax them?? LOL I rather use my right hand.

DogTown997
01-10-24, 00:41
Her profile sounds like she's pretty stuck up and has a stick up her ass. One of my peeves with some of these girls profiles is when they say, don't waste my time. My response in my head is fuck you then b*tch. I won't waste my time on you. Read these girls profiles guys carefully first. Don't just look at the pretty pictures and shoot off a message. This one is specific about what she wants and something in your profile, looks or what you messaged her, ain't it.Also never trust a profile with multiple locations listed, there just fishing for a simp.

TopGun9
01-10-24, 10:10
Anyone aware of a discount / coupon code for SDM? I don't think I've ever seen one.

SA always have 20%-30% coupon for their membership.

MidnightDabber
01-11-24, 16:42
Has anyone met up with her before? I recall maybe seeing someones report on here last year on here?

Ace McNasty
01-12-24, 14:25
Just curious what other member's ratings are like. Care to share some of your 8, 9, 10's? Beauty is totally subjective. You ask 100 Einsteins here what their definition of a 5,6,7,8, or 9 is and you will get 101 different answers.

However, while guys may have different rating methods, the chicks on the other hand all think they are 10's LOL!

I blame this total delusion on run away feminism.

FarFarAway
01-12-24, 15:23
I lived in the bay area a long time. The women there can't hold a candle to the looks of girls in southern California, broadly. They still have a high opinion of themselves, however.

We always used to call those types 49 ers (yeah, like the NFL team). Only, in the case of these girls, they were 4's who thought they were 9's. LOL.

KoolKeith323
01-13-24, 06:56
Use code VWO33 COM for 33% off.

FemTog
01-14-24, 03:26
https://members.seeking.com/member/6dd6b233-5ade-4cf2-87b1-ad4b28ac9c4e

Trying to get her but she laughed at my offer. Anyone have info on her?

Also if anyone knows anything about spasiandoll. Thank you.

JackMiles
01-14-24, 15:36
https://members.seeking.com/member/6dd6b233-5ade-4cf2-87b1-ad4b28ac9c4e

Trying to get her but she laughed at my offer. Anyone have info on her?

Also if anyone knows anything about spasiandoll. Thank you.Not sure if there's a report on "her" but I gather someone has since I see her on the site all the time. Red flag one, and the photos look photoshopped and weird. Red flag two.

R Ryder
01-14-24, 15:44
https://members.seeking.com/member/6dd6b233-5ade-4cf2-87b1-ad4b28ac9c4e

Trying to get her but she laughed at my offer. Anyone have info on her?

Also if anyone knows anything about spasiandoll. Thank you.Curious what was your offer?

HoDough
01-14-24, 17:33
So, obviously I mainly just want one thing out of the site. Does the site ban you for stating on the profile questionaire that you mainly just want sex? Or, should I word it differently, in a more discreet way?

UnknownSD
01-14-24, 23:29
MissMeow: Young Russian blonde girl. She currently attends UCLA but doing hybrid schooling this semester and moved to NY. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 6.

https://members.seeking.com/member/37094f1e-e366-4df5-8e7c-f937dc87f95d

Good girl: White girl in her mid-20's. Looks are a 6 and body is a 7. She's asking for 2 k ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/de564281-7e2a-4c4a-a893-78a717288d0f

Lilyblossom: White girl in her late 20's. She's back on SA again after taking a break. She's a bartender and an actress. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 6. She's $500 ppm and does BBFS.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a6f440ab-a5e4-4780-996b-fe71fb79fb31

Sweetandspicy: White girl in her mid 20's. Looks are a 7 and body is a 7. She's looking for $400 ppm but condoms only. She only meets if you're DTF.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b2651646-fd02-4856-b7bc-9699990dad5f

Blueberries2244: A user PM me to ask about this girl. She's a fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/56c997b2-82f2-4004-b526-795d1f2cea89

Petitebuns: Mixed girl in her late 20's. She says she went to Standard and currently working remotely. Her looks are a 6 and her body is a 7. She has prognathism so not very attractive. She asking for a high allowance, 1 k+ ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d91c58ee-a255-685a-6091-8fc710b88214

FeminineGirl: Ukraine girl in her mid-20's. She's been on SA before and this is her new profile. Looks are a 6 and body is a 7. She's asking for $700 ppm condom only.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cb56b24c-3e93-43a1-b2eb-acbe5b8ebf86

CulturedCharmer: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1d3994e5-efc4-4286-bec4-7e5112bd9f5b

MoonierJoyce: Fake / scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5f3950db-e6ef-4148-ab80-39b26c5ebf6b

ExcitedSocialite: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7f66a716-5841-48a7-bbf6-173b527cc108

FoxyGorgeous: Fake / Scammer.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6ba10e29-fb3f-4339-9751-752ce9eee56c

MetalKnight21
01-14-24, 23:47
Here are some of my recent successes, found a solid one long term so sharing some decent ppm meetups.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9a744541-36eb-4695-82b0-66e5c0bf8561

Nice curves, flakey and hard to get a hold of, BBFS, we agreed on 500. Can host or come to you.

https://members.seeking.com/member/fe12e69e-d214-456d-b254-5fef059d1624

She's been around for a while. Tall, nice body. Asked for 600 but got her to agree to 500, dead fish in bed but bb and decent BBBJ so it evens out. She also hosts but also open to going to you.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a3ee1072-5826-4ec6-b04c-8f2c0495f7d3

Open to 500 ppm, tall and good looks but also another dead fish. Cfs to start off with but can earn her trust.

Lexx1
01-15-24, 01:31
Not sure if there's a report on "her" but I gather someone has since I see her on the site all the time. Red flag one, and the photos look photoshopped and weird. Red flag two.Definitely weird pics. Lots of girls nowadays are using either weird filters, AI to enhance photos or even a completely AI pic. Not even a FaceTime / video call nowadays can be trusted because they can be using a filter while on the video call. Only way to see what they look like 100% is in person.

R Ryder
01-15-24, 14:01
Use code VWO33 COM for 33% off.I'm starting to think SA is just filled with girls GPS. I just resigned up yesterday. I've sent out 99 messages and not a single reply back. I've done this before, I've had 2 long term SB. One ended up being a long term live in GF. But I've been off the site for 4 years and I'm using the same type of messages and nothing. I've even lowered my standards to 3's and 4's and still nothing. WTH is going on? Is the Guy to Girl ratio that bad? Do the SBs have the upper hand now. Is Hoeflation that high? Rant over but any help is appreciated.

PantyPatrol1
01-15-24, 14:07
I'm starting to think SA is just filled with girls GPS. I just resigned up yesterday. I've sent out 99 messages and not a single reply back. I've done this before, I've had 2 long term SB. One ended up being a long term live in GF. But I've been off the site for 4 years and I'm using the same type of messages and nothing. I've even lowered my standards to 3's and 4's and still nothing. WTH is going on? Is the Guy to Girl ratio that bad? Do the SBs have the upper hand now. Is Hoeflation that high? Rant over but any help is appreciated.I noticed the same thing. Many will tell you on here that its you, but I think its morphed into a quasi-dating site due to the crackdown on "human trafficking". I have had 2 pots ask me what a sugar baby is. Also I think pots have gotten more sophisticated and educated and have increased prices accordingly.

Lexx1
01-15-24, 14:18
I'm starting to think SA is just filled with girls GPS. I just resigned up yesterday. I've sent out 99 messages and not a single reply back. I've done this before, I've had 2 long term SB. One ended up being a long term live in GF. But I've been off the site for 4 years and I'm using the same type of messages and nothing. I've even lowered my standards to 3's and 4's and still nothing. WTH is going on? Is the Guy to Girl ratio that bad? Do the SBs have the upper hand now. Is Hoeflation that high? Rant over but any help is appreciated.Yep and all of the above. Just to many dudes just asking for PPM amount straight out and not negotiating. Covid reduced the amount of girls big time. Especially the younger college girls that I work on, 18 to 22, preferably 18-20. That pool is tiny now compared to before covid. Young and new / fresh girls are not as plentiful anymore.

R Ryder
01-15-24, 14:35
I noticed the same thing. Many will tell you on here that its you, but I think its morphed into a quasi-dating site due to the crackdown on "human trafficking". I have had 2 pots ask me what a sugar baby is. Also I think pots have gotten more sophisticated and educated and have increased prices accordingly.So what's the going rate now? I use to get top notch 😸 for 4 with everything available. What's the approach, do I just shoot out numbers? I remember people getting kicked off the site for just saying "$400 for a date".

UnknownSD
01-15-24, 14:48
Miaismia: This is her first time being a SB. She's a Chinese girl in her late 20's from China. She lives in a DTLA apartment. She's currently facing financial difficulties because her parents in China can no longer support her due to the poor economic state China is now. She graduated from NYU with a BS and MS degree. She has no green card and currently looking for a job that provides a work visa. Her looks are a 7 and her body is an 8. She's very nice and friendly. Allowance negotiable. Act quickly if you want to be her 1st SD.

https://members.seeking.com/member/50af780b-8df1-47a4-a2ea-908d94e6d00a

UnknownSD
01-15-24, 15:09
Here are some older SBs that have popped up on SA recently again with a new or older profile.

Dariaa: European blonde girl in her late 20's or early 30's. She used similar usernames prior and has been on SA for a few years now and back again with a new profile. Her looks are 7.5 and her body is 8.5. She's was looking for $700 ppm years before but not sure how much now.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6811b5c7-aafe-4c09-94ec-51539cf41225

SaharaCali: Black girl in her late 20's. She's back on SA again with a new profile but used the same pics as before. She's one of the better-looking black girls in SA. Her looks are an 8 and her body is an 8. Allowance negotiable. She is fine with BB if you have recent test results.

https://members.seeking.com/member/613ac78e-e657-4044-84d5-b4d7acc8d35b

Angelbbabyyy: Black girl in her late 20's. She's been on and off of SA. She used to live in Glendale, CA but her location shows Miami, FL. She's another one of the better-looking black girls. Her looks are 8. 5 and her body is 6.5 since she has a few extra pounds. She's looking for a high allowance, 1 k+ ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cfd94f06-e33a-44be-9dc5-c71ddeb984ae

SensualTemptress. Latino girl in her late 20's or early 30's now. She's been on SA for a very long time with different profiles and usernames. Her looks are a 7 and her body a 7 if you like the slight curvy type. She was $500 ppm before and only meets if you're DTF. She's very pro.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c86d8608-7006-41e8-a10f-b52c1ae8b5c1

HotFunClassy: European blonde girl in her mid or late 30's. She's been on SA for many years now. She works at the Coldwell Banker in Beverly Hills and is a real estate agent. She looks like Chrishell from Selling Sunset. Her looks are a 7 and her body is a 8. She's looking for a very high allowance.

https://members.seeking.com/member/ad85722c-927c-4ef6-9634-1d0b8d432959

UnknownSD
01-15-24, 15:34
I'm starting to think SA is just filled with girls GPS. I just resigned up yesterday. I've sent out 99 messages and not a single reply back. I've done this before, I've had 2 long term SB. One ended up being a long term live in GF. But I've been off the site for 4 years and I'm using the same type of messages and nothing. I've even lowered my standards to 3's and 4's and still nothing. WTH is going on? Is the Guy to Girl ratio that bad? Do the SBs have the upper hand now. Is Hoeflation that high? Rant over but any help is appreciated.It's the increase of Fake / Salt Daddies and the increase of ppm offers that has decreased the supply pool of SBs on SA. More and more members are treating sugar dating as an escort experience using pump and dump style. SBs are not escorts and do not wish to be treated like one so once they encounter a bad experience with an SD they get off the site and quite sugaring. However, there are many escorts on SA but they should not be considered as SBs but pros instead.

UnknownSD
01-15-24, 15:53
Yep and all of the above. Just to many dudes just asking for PPM amount straight out and not negotiating. Covid reduced the amount of girls big time. Especially the younger college girls that I work on, 18 to 22, preferably 18-20. That pool is tiny now compared to before covid. Young and new / fresh girls are not as plentiful anymore.That's not true. Covid didn't decrease the SB pool. From 2020 to 2022, were some of the best years. 2023 was the worst year ever in SA. That's because of inflation and the increase of Fake / Salt daddies. The rising cost of living affects many SDs' ability to spoil generously. As a result, new girls who want to try sugaring are hesitant due to the increased number of horrific sugaring experiences they hear all around.

UnknownSD
01-15-24, 16:04
So what's the going rate now? I use to get top notch 😸 for 4 with everything available. What's the approach, do I just shoot out numbers? I remember people getting kicked off the site for just saying "$400 for a date".Look at my SB reviews to get an idea.

StevenWalker
01-15-24, 17:33
I'm starting to think SA is just filled with girls GPS. I just resigned up yesterday. I've sent out 99 messages and not a single reply back. I've done this before, I've had 2 long term SB. One ended up being a long term live in GF. But I've been off the site for 4 years and I'm using the same type of messages and nothing. I've even lowered my standards to 3's and 4's and still nothing. WTH is going on? Is the Guy to Girl ratio that bad? Do the SBs have the upper hand now. Is Hoeflation that high? Rant over but any help is appreciated.Hoeflation destroyed every avenue to meet the opposite gender in the west. You can't even pay for pussy anymore. Let's go to Thailand before it gets ruined by simps bro. It's the only safehaven left.

R Ryder
01-15-24, 18:31
Hoeflation destroyed every avenue to meet the opposite gender in the west. You can't even pay for pussy anymore. Let's go to Thailand before it gets ruined by simps bro. It's the only safehaven left.I guess that's our avenue for easy pussy. I just had a single mother demand that I pay for her babysitting before we go out to dinner. Damn bitches are out of control. I just signed up for Babbel to learn Spanish. HK here I come. Can anyone help with a decent intro message for SA That won't get me banned?

HollywoodGuy
01-15-24, 18:50
Hoeflation? lol. I believe the #1 killer of SA has been social media. There used to be a plethora of pussie on SA. Moving to vegas cuts the number in half to 2/3 right off the bat. But the number of new girls adding profiles over all is just way off. Way easier to just make a tiktok and get guys drooling over you. The word is def out in my demographic. SA is old news.

I see way less younger girls, way more older girls. Seeing a girl over 40 used to be rare. Not anymore. The game has changed.

Lexx1
01-15-24, 19:23
That's not true. Covid didn't decrease the SB pool. From 2020 to 2022, were some of the best years. 2023 was the worst year ever in SA. That's because of inflation and the increase of Fake / Salt daddies. The rising cost of living affects many SDs' ability to spoil generously. As a result, new girls who want to try sugaring are hesitant due to the increased number of horrific sugaring experiences they hear all around.Respectfully disagree. Covid did reduce the pool. Very easy to check back in those years by doing a general overall search in the age ranges. From what I've seen of the girls you and others bring up. They're older in the mid 20's and up. I don't usually hunt in that age range. Younger girls were very reduced and still are.

SeanTime53
01-15-24, 22:00
Think she told me she used to do porn when she was 18.How is her performance?

UnknownSD
01-15-24, 22:21
How is her performance?Another member PM me a few days ago. He had a really good experience with her.

UnknownSD
01-15-24, 22:26
Respectfully disagree. Covid did reduce the pool. Very easy to check back in those years by doing a general overall search in the age ranges. From what I've seen of the girls you and others bring up. They're older in the mid 20's and up. I don't usually hunt in that age range. Younger girls were very reduced and still are.1st quarter of 2020 was kinda slow on SA. 2nd half picked right up. Overall there wasn't a significant decrease in 2020 from my end. For me, 2023 was by far the slowest year I had since I've been on SA. That's why many members are complaining they are not getting many replies recently because there are not that many new SBs in 2023.

JackMiles
01-15-24, 23:44
Miaismia: This is her first time being a SB. She's a Chinese girl in her late 20's from China. She lives in a DTLA apartment. She's currently facing financial difficulties because her parents in China can no longer support her due to the poor economic state China is now. She graduated from NYU with a BS and MS degree. She has no green card and currently looking for a job that provides a work visa. Her looks are a 7 and her body is an 8. She's very nice and friendly. Allowance negotiable. Act quickly if you want to be her 1st SD.

https://members.seeking.com/member/50af780b-8df1-47a4-a2ea-908d94e6d00aFirst time sugar baby with a join date in 2021? LOL.

UnknownSD
01-15-24, 23:54
First time sugar baby with a join date in 2021? LOL.She created the account back then but never had an arrangement. She just started using the account a month ago according to her.

StudBucket
01-16-24, 02:23
Respectfully disagree. Covid did reduce the pool. Very easy to check back in those years by doing a general overall search in the age ranges. From what I've seen of the girls you and others bring up. They're older in the mid 20's and up. I don't usually hunt in that age range. Younger girls were very reduced and still are.I would agree with this. I find it was more difficult to do meetups during Covid. I had several girls tell me they would not meet up, it was harder for sure. When Covid died down, the ability to access more dates ballooned for me.

StudBucket
01-16-24, 02:26
I'm starting to think SA is just filled with girls GPS. I just resigned up yesterday. I've sent out 99 messages and not a single reply back. I've done this before, I've had 2 long term SB. One ended up being a long term live in GF. But I've been off the site for 4 years and I'm using the same type of messages and nothing. I've even lowered my standards to 3's and 4's and still nothing. WTH is going on? Is the Guy to Girl ratio that bad? Do the SBs have the upper hand now. Is Hoeflation that high? Rant over but any help is appreciated.I would not give up. I am not sure why you are you getting such a high no repsonse rate. Maybe try new photos? On any given week I can pick up 3-5 new numbers to go out with a few hours work. Granted, as many have said, prices have gone up from pre Covid for sure and there are many flakes, GPS, scammers etc but it is still good. Do not give up, I think this is just a fluke thing you experienced.

Ace McNasty
01-16-24, 12:22
First time sugar baby with a join date in 2021? LOL.Yeah noticed that too. Maybe she's still a virgin?

Just like Stormy Daniels LOL.


HotItGirl from Seeking

https://members.seeking.com/member/135ff46d-ab1f-4736-a689-5e6e7c34b670

Easy raw dog, Uber to hotel, shrimp cocktail, vodka soda and $300.This SB is a ham sammich away from fat. But if she allows CIP then $300 ppm is not bad.

UnknownSD
01-16-24, 14:38
Dariaa: Apparently, this is a different Dariaa than the one I stated in my last review. She's looking for 1 k ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6811b5c7-aafe-4c09-94ec-51539cf41225

UnknownSD
01-16-24, 14:54
Please do not PM me to ask me for SB's contact info. Contact them directly on SA. If they're interested in you, they will give you their number.

Boobman76
01-16-24, 17:16
This SB is a ham sammich away from fat. But if she allows CIP then $300 ppm is not bad.I saw her last August and she was a good time. 300 for 2 hours and she is down for BBFS, cip, greek, and filming. She lived in a sobriety home in Orange at the time, so she did have a curfew. She told me she lived in North Carolina, moved to Atlanta where she got on fentanyl, but wanted to get sober and found this sober home in Orange, CA. I never would have guessed as she isn't skinny, but also not out-of-control fat. I'd see her again as she is doing good with her sobriety.

WowU812
01-16-24, 17:37
I would not give up. I am not sure why you are you getting such a high no repsonse rate. Maybe try new photos? On any given week I can pick up 3-5 new numbers to go out with a few hours work. Granted, as many have said, prices have gone up from pre Covid for sure and there are many flakes, GPS, scammers etc but it is still good. Do not give up, I think this is just a fluke thing you experienced.That is very strange. Do you have photos? What are you saying when you message girls?

I am fit, clean and attractive. First message is very nice, but to the point. For example: "Hey, I like that picture of you at the beach! I love the beach. It would be nice to meet someone with a real connection. Let's meet for something casual and fun, maybe once or twice per week. Do you like getting some sort of allowance each time in the beginning as we establish our arrangement. What is your number? I will text to discuss further".

Lexx1
01-16-24, 18:13
I saw her last August and she was a good time. 300 for 2 hours and she is down for BBFS, cip, greek, and filming. She lived in a sobriety home in Orange at the time, so she did have a curfew. She told me she lived in North Carolina, moved to Atlanta where she got on fentanyl, but wanted to get sober and found this sober home in Orange, CA. I never would have guessed as she isn't skinny, but also not out-of-control fat. I'd see her again as she is doing good with her sobriety.Usually a girl that is dealing with substance abuse can be had for much less. I've had a few girls off Seeking and Craigslist in the past that were in sobriety homes. That were just as cute and were open to everything including pics and video for 100/140 average per meetup and a couple hours of fun time. This one being a more recent girl on Seeking nowadays, with GPS / PPS going on, can be probably brought down to 200 max. 300 is a bit high.

HollywoodGuy
01-17-24, 00:14
Yeah noticed that too. Maybe she's still a virgin?

Just like Stormy Daniels LOL.

This SB is a ham sammich away from fat. But if she allows CIP then $300 ppm is not bad.One mans ham sammich is another mans cordon bleu.

StevenWalker
01-17-24, 02:25
Given up on finding an ABG. Whoremaxxing is a dead hobby. Quality is way down. Quantitiy is way down. Prices are way up. Lame. At least I got to experience it when it lasted.

StudBucket
01-17-24, 02:37
That is very strange. Do you have photos? What are you saying when you message girls?

I am fit, clean and attractive. First message is very nice, but to the point. For example: "Hey, I like that picture of you at the beach! I love the beach. It would be nice to meet someone with a real connection. Let's meet for something casual and fun, maybe once or twice per week. Do you like getting some sort of allowance each time in the beginning as we establish our arrangement. What is your number? I will text to discuss further".I actually have good photos, and am above average in looks and build so maybe that helps me. Not saying I am a model or hunk but definitely very appealing. Photos really do mean and say a lot, but you noted that you are fit and attractive so I guess you must be pretty photogenic.

I honestly do not go into long openers with girls whether online or in a bar, club, etc. Most dating coaches, experts will tell you the initial opener means very little. This is a typical thing I use, and it is a direct approach to get her number. My approach I feel shows that you are not needy, gets straight to the point, etc.

I will use one of these approaches normally:

"Hey I found your photos really cute, I was wondering if I could get to know you, so. Please leave you name and number and I will be in touch."

"Hello, you seem like a really interesting person, and would like talking with you and go from there. ".

Also, many girls will eventually hit you up also, and sometimes it is a decent match, so not sure why this has not happened yet but it will.

Lastly, I read your opener, and it is pretty good overall. You start off complementing which is good but I would leave out the part where you say I would be nice to meet someone with a real connection as most of these girls wants NSA and it is too early in your opener without having gone out to discuss this. Also, I would not discuss the allowance in the email, and would save this for once you speak with her because some girls do not want this. Once you gain her trust and speak with her, you can state you want ppm and I like the way you state it, and then tell her we can see how it goes from there.

As I say overall, hang in there, I think you just had a fluke experience. In the beginning it was akward for me and I gave up years ago, and then came back and was a gold mine for me. Now though, the GPS thing and high prices are the big issue for me. Hotter girls want 600-1000 now and my maximum is $400-500.

Good Luck.

UnknownSD
01-17-24, 11:19
I actually have good photos, and am above average in looks and build so maybe that helps me. Not saying I am a model or hunk but definitely very appealing. Photos really do mean and say a lot, but you noted that you are fit and attractive so I guess you must be pretty photogenic.

I honestly do not go into long openers with girls whether online or in a bar, club, etc. Most dating coaches, experts will tell you the initial opener means very little. This is a typical thing I use, and it is a direct approach to get her number. My approach I feel shows that you are not needy, gets straight to the point, etc.

I will use one of these approaches normally:

"Hey I found your photos really cute, I was wondering if I could get to know you, so. Please leave you name and number and I will be in touch."

"Hello, you seem like a really interesting person, and would like talking with you and go from there. ".

Also, many girls will eventually hit you up also, and sometimes it is a decent match, so not sure why this has not happened yet but it will..Good tips.

UnknownSD
01-17-24, 11:37
Given up on finding an ABG. Whoremaxxing is a dead hobby. Quality is way down. Quantitiy is way down. Prices are way up. Lame. At least I got to experience it when it lasted.What's ABG stand for?

Dsteezy
01-17-24, 19:43
SA truly still hits like it did 3-4 years ago. Might take a little bit more work but I still manage to get 7/8's for little to no allowance. Just managed to start meeting up with an Italian girl who's I've been meeting 2-3 x a week for 1500 monthly.

HollywoodGuy
01-17-24, 21:14
SA truly still hits like it did 3-4 years ago. Might take a little bit more work but I still manage to get 7/8's for little to no allowance. Just managed to start meeting up with an Italian girl who's I've been meeting 2-3 x a week for 1500 monthly.That would well received by a lot of girls.

UnknownSD
01-17-24, 22:48
SA truly still hits like it did 3-4 years ago. Might take a little bit more work but I still manage to get 7/8's for little to no allowance. Just managed to start meeting up with an Italian girl who's I've been meeting 2-3 x a week for 1500 monthly.Care to share her profile link or a photo? Not many Italian girls on SA in the LA / OC area. The ones I met that are 7 or 8 are not 1500 monthly to meet 2-3 x a week. That works out to $125 - $187.50 per meet.