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E1775
05-30-14, 16:51
There are way more girls in the last week or so responding.Schools out for summer, I imagine these girls need there $ to go to hard summer, outside lands and EDC.

HollywoodGuy
06-07-14, 00:51
Whats with all the trans genders on SD4 m lately? Way too many. Now you got to look at every pic twice just to be sure.

Area56
06-09-14, 14:05
Not sure how many of you hobbyist know of the website 'reddit'. They have a ton of sub-reddits (I'm not going to try and explain) just take a look and hopefully you find someone.

http://www.reddit.com/r/sugardaddies/

HollywoodGuy
06-14-14, 23:28
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2094395-shortsonata-Lancaster-California-SugarBaby

Only $600 for this one. She accepted my offer of $ the first day she was on the site. You snooze you lose.

Newday53
06-15-14, 01:16
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2094395-shortsonata-Lancaster-California-SugarBaby

Only $600 for this one. She accepted my offer of $ the first day she was on the site. You snooze you lose.Probably trying to raise rent money to move out of the closet she is living in. Anybody else catch the 2nd pic?

ND.

HollywoodGuy
06-15-14, 23:58
Probably trying to raise rent money to move out of the closet she is living in. Anybody else catch the 2nd pic?

ND.And you see where she lives. No one is paying that kind of money out there. I estimate of girls under 25 that fully half are now pros, utr's, gps, trans or lookyloos on SD4 M at this point. The site has really gotten junked up as of late.

Rouleur
06-16-14, 00:04
For Las Vegas I've found SA to be pretty helpful in meeting SB's I tried SD4 Me and didn't find it to be as effective. YMMV.

Mgog1
06-17-14, 04:11
Finally dipping my toe into the SD / SB world and looking for a bit of advice. I messaged a SB, she messaged back asking for pics, I sent pics, she says they were good, she asks me what kind of arrangement I'm looking for, I respond with what days I'm typically available and the frequency that I can meet. I told her I would like to meet in person before we agree to any arrangement in order to ensure we are compatible. She responds saying the schedule works and asks what I'm wanting to do with her "like sex or what". Spidey senses tingling. Not sure if this is a normal exchange. Normally I'd be running for the hills as it sounds like Uncle LE to me. Not sure how (or if) I should respond? Any advice greatly appreciated.

HollywoodGuy
06-17-14, 12:05
I always tell the girl what I expect sexually on a first date if she expects to get paid and how much.

Mgog1
06-17-14, 13:41
I always tell the girl what I expect sexually on a first date if she expects to get paid and how much.So is it best just to avoid her question now and wait until we meet, or just cut bait all together and look for another one?

Got Time
06-17-14, 20:58
i've seen 3 girls that i personally know on sugardaddyforme that i know for a fact are ****. so, just be careful is all.

HollywoodGuy
06-18-14, 00:36
Always ask for identification when you suspect something. Always talk money upfront. Always find out what's NOT on the menu as soon as possible.

Fitibikeco
07-01-14, 20:49
Any of you have used or heard of the site BADOO.

Clutch
07-02-14, 01:34
Any of you have used or heard of the site BADOO.As far as I know, it's a dating site. You might find an occasional girl that is dressed like a hooker but 99% of the pics I see are of civilians. I've used it to set up dates when I go south to Ensenada, Mexico. I'm a Spanish speaker and will chat it up with some local Baja girls before I head down there. I've taken a few out and banged a couple of local girls after a night on the town. If I strike out, I just hit the strip bars and get laid anyways.

Stay safe,

Clutch.

Large Ess
07-02-14, 20:28
Heading out to Palm Springs which I know isn't covered by this thread but the Palm Springs thread is dead. Looking for a good MP or escort. I have hit a couple places further in the desert and they have given happy endings by the women are not that good looking. One had nice breasts, so that was cool. I know I can look at backpage and such but man, it seems so much tougher out here than in LA. Any leads would be appreciated.

Fitibikeco
07-03-14, 18:49
For my experience I got the reply for two girls that offer 45 min hand an pussy job for 60. But No 10 girls, never try so I still trying.


As far as I know, it's a dating site. You might find an occasional girl that is dressed like a hooker but 99% of the pics I see are of civilians. I've used it to set up dates when I go south to Ensenada, Mexico. I'm a Spanish speaker and will chat it up with some local Baja girls before I head down there. I've taken a few out and banged a couple of local girls after a night on the town. If I strike out, I just hit the strip bars and get laid anyways.

Stay safe,

Clutch.

HollywoodGuy
07-24-14, 17:24
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2861237-JuiceeDropz28-glendale-California-SugarBaby

Met her a couple weeks ago. Just a sweet girl honestly looking for a SD. We had a good time on our date but she decided to pass on a second one.

Rainjam
07-25-14, 09:41
Any chance that she might be interested in you sharing her digits with a trusted friend?


http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2861237-JuiceeDropz28-glendale-California-SugarBaby

Met her a couple weeks ago. Just a sweet girl honestly looking for a SD. We had a good time on our date but she decided to pass on a second one.

Jack Reacher
07-25-14, 11:37
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2861237-JuiceeDropz28-glendale-California-SugarBaby

Met her a couple weeks ago. Just a sweet girl honestly looking for a SD. We had a good time on our date but she decided to pass on a second one.How was the sex?

Details please?

HollywoodGuy
07-25-14, 11:42
I don't pass around numbers but I will post a profile link from time to time when I think it is appropriate. If anyone is interested I can post quite a few UTR profiles. I just believe that for girls on SD4 M its up to the individual to contact them, as my success may not be yours and all the girls I see or talk to are usually a YMMV type girl.

Pinche Gringo
07-29-14, 14:36
Anyone seen this girl? She contacted me on SB4 me.

HollywoodGuy
08-05-14, 00:43
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-1796217-momoamour-Montclair-California-SugarBaby

We went on a couple dates a little while back. If you like a thick girl with an upbeat personality, give her shout. Pretty and sexy too.

Large Ess
08-09-14, 14:06
I follow Hollywood Guy's advice and straight up ask for an HJ in my first contact. Cracks me up when the SB's ask "What's a HJ?" Seriously? I know I am talking to a girl who has been in a convent all her life.

Jah Mon
08-09-14, 14:20
I follow Hollywood Guy's advice and straight up ask for an HJ in my first contact. Cracks me up when the SB's ask "What's a HJ?" Seriously? I know I am talking to a girl who has been in a convent all her life.Wait until they blow on your pocket Sergeant. Try not to laugh.

Jah Mon.

Large Ess
08-24-14, 12:46
Have exchange a few emails. Seems promising.

Volcom543
08-24-14, 14:14
Has any one see this girl she look hot. http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-3028360-Yourgirlcoco-Lake-Los-Angeles-California-SugarBaby.

Ocampo2
08-24-14, 23:49
She looks good. That's a great Sunday.

I need to sign up.


Or was that Monday Monday?

Saw my little (or not so little) cup of light brown sugar today. Girls just want to have fun. And we did for four hours. The only damage was the. 75 for the no-tel.

There is a lot of girl packed into this 5 foot sweetie. And she just loves sucking every part of her daddy. Lots of role play and good times all around.

She is a recent find on SD4 M.

HollywoodGuy
08-25-14, 20:08
A very slick fake profile.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-3051686-LoveJazlynn-CampPendleton-California-SugarBaby

Not your typical fake Russian profile.

Poon Hound
08-25-14, 20:40
Saw my little (or not so little) cup of light brown sugar today. Girls just want to have fun. And we did for four hours. The only damage was the 75 for the no-tel. There is a lot of girl packed into this 5 foot sweetie. And she just loves sucking on every part of her daddy. Lots of role play and good times all around. She is a recent find on SD4 M.How exactly is the notel the only danage?

Your the man!

WhenWhen
08-25-14, 23:28
Would love to see some body pics. Love the short dark ones.


Saw my little (or not so little) cup of light brown sugar today. Girls just want to have fun. And we did for four hours. The only damage was the 75 for the no-tel. There is a lot of girl packed into this 5 foot sweetie. And she just loves sucking on every part of her daddy. Lots of role play and good times all around. She is a recent find on SD4 M.

HollywoodGuy
08-26-14, 00:38
How exactly is the notel the only danage?

Your the man!It's the only damage because she won't take my money. No way No how.

HollywoodGuy
08-26-14, 00:39
A very slick fake profile.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-3051686-LoveJazlynn-CampPendleton-California-SugarBaby

Not your typical fake Russian profile.I actually contacted the real girl and she posted on her instagram that someone stole her pics so I reported it to SD4 M. I get tired of fake profiles.

Poon Hound
08-26-14, 18:51
It's the only damage because she won't take my money. No way No how.So she's pretty much 1 of a kind on that site huh? I've seen SW go on sites like that and try to ask for guys w /6 figure incomes LOL.

Jooop
08-27-14, 04:38
Saw my little (or not so little) cup of light brown sugar today. Girls just want to have fun. And we did for four hours. The only damage was the 75 for the no-tel. There is a lot of girl packed into this 5 foot sweetie. And she just loves sucking on every part of her daddy. Lots of role play and good times all around. She is a recent find on SD4 M.Man you should shave your junk.

HollywoodGuy
08-27-14, 14:36
Man you should shave your junk.The girls I date have no problem with that. I am a dominant daddy slender teddy bear type. Its a type. Not all girls want to be with some hairless guy, they think of hair as masculine. Shaved as feminine.

WhenWhen
09-08-14, 01:29
Thanks for the breast pic. Would love to see more as well as her booty.


I went and saw my Baby Girl "S" today. She was so happy to see her Daddy. She missed Daddys lolli so much, she just couldn't get enough of it. After a good hour plus Old Faithful finally erupted.

Zauriel
09-08-14, 09:39
Great pics, Hwood! She's a keeper!


I went and saw my Baby Girl "S" today. She was so happy to see her Daddy. She missed Daddys lolli so much, she just couldn't get enough of it. After a good hour plus Old Faithful finally erupted.

Watnow78
09-08-14, 12:28
I went and saw my Baby Girl "S" today. She was so happy to see her Daddy. She missed Daddys lolli so much, she just couldn't get enough of it. After a good hour plus Old Faithful finally erupted.Nice! What does she charge for that hour? Care to share her info? Or is this a keeper to yourself? Either way good pics.

HollywoodGuy
09-08-14, 14:35
Nice! What does she charge for that hour? Care to share her info? Or is this a keeper to yourself? Either way good pics.No charge. She is a true submissive baby girl that was looking for a Daddy Dom on the SD sites. Just got lucky.

Seephor
09-08-14, 17:29
I went and saw my Baby Girl "S" today. She was so happy to see her Daddy. She missed Daddys lolli so much, she just couldn't get enough of it. After a good hour plus Old Faithful finally erupted.Hey that's a nice catch Hollywood. Cute and pretty nice body.

HollywoodGuy
09-08-14, 18:43
Hey that's a nice catch Hollywood. Cute and pretty nice body.Thanks. You should go read the richmond SB thread. I have read all your posts and you would be a natural for taking the SD route. I believe you would save money and have a more rewarding time as well.

HollywoodGuy
09-11-14, 21:27
Stay away from this one. Don't ask why. Just stay away. As she is quite a bit older I doubt many would be interested in her anyway.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2364103-shoshogirl-ShermanOaks-California-SugarBaby

Normus Johnson
09-12-14, 12:34
Stay away from this one. Don't ask why. Just stay away. As she is quite a bit older I doubt many would be interested in her anyway.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2364103-shoshogirl-ShermanOaks-California-SugarBabyA thin Oprah. I bet just as scary without the makeup.

Normus Johnson.

CreamyBare
09-15-14, 16:14
Just a word for the wise: the site "Seeking Arrangement" is run by the scum of the earth.

1) they lie implicitly to get you to sign up, among other things, they claim you can receive mail for free. LOL, yea, you receive it but can't read it. Loll.

2) they don't allow you to delete your profile for several weeks, during which time your email account is barraged by messages from Seeking Arrangement.

3) once that time has passed and you DO delete your account, Seeking Arrangement sells your email address to spammers, and your email address is then completely filled with spam. I know for certain that it was from Seeking Arrangement because the spam contained the USER NAME that I was using in SA.

FUCK SEEKING ARRANGEMENT! They are creepy scum ass hats.

There are other sugardaddy sites that are far more useful and honest, such as SDFM.

HollywoodGuy
09-15-14, 23:54
Just a word for the wise: the site "Seeking Arrangement" is run by the scum of the earth.

1) they lie implicitly to get you to sign up, among other things, they claim you can receive mail for free. LOL, yea, you receive it but can't read it. Loll.

2) they don't allow you to delete your profile for several weeks, during which time your email account is barraged by messages from Seeking Arrangement.

3) once that time has passed and you DO delete your account, Seeking Arrangement sells your email address to spammers, and your email address is then completely filled with spam. I know for certain that it was from Seeking Arrangement because the spam contained the USER NAME that I was using in SA.

FUCK SEEKING ARRANGEMENT! They are creepy scum ass hats.

There are other sugardaddy sites that are far more useful and honest, such as SDFM.Almost every website that collects your address sells it later. Its clearly stated in the privacy policy. Most people never read them. Never use your "real" email address to sign up to any site you don't trust implicitly. Always use a "disposable" email address. You could have 100 of them. AOL, HM or Yahoo for example. There is no limit on how many email addresses you can have. I wouldn't say SA is any scammyer than eHarmony.

I suspect if you got some good pussy off that site you wouldn't care anyway, so I will assume your travels at SA were less than fruitful. But don't hate the players.

Beachesnole02
09-18-14, 11:11
So I was taking a quick peak at SA this morning to see who the new listers were, and I click on the photos of one, and there I am standing in the background of her picture. Guess I better not email her, if she waters in the same watering whole might get dicy.

Jack Reacher
09-18-14, 13:05
So I was taking a quick peak at SA this morning to see who the new listers were, and I click on the photos of one, and there I am standing in the background of her picture. Guess I better not email her, if she waters in the same watering whole might get dicy.Come again??

Pinche Gringo
09-18-14, 13:20
Maybe it is just me or my luck (or lack there of), I had a terrible time on both sd4 me and SA. I had the misfortune of meeting a few ladies. One turned out to be a call girl who was also on HX. I knew from the beginning after meeting her that she was a working girl (yes, I used that word on purpose). When we met we discussed her do's and don'ts. She said everything had to be covered, HJs. The others I met amounted to stalker types that emailed me for months after we met even though I said I was not interested. One I met up with swore she had never done anything like this before. But when I posted her photos someone recognized her and when I called her on it she would not meet up again until I told her who it was.

My experiences maybe unique and I commend those here who had had good luck. I have left the sites and enjoy my time at AMP's. Still looking for a beautiful Latina that will let me touch and gives a great I rushed HJ and knows how to give a decent massage; for me the trinity!!

CreamyBare
09-18-14, 15:44
Almost every website that collects your address sells it later. Its clearly stated in the privacy policy. Most people never read them. Never use your "real" email address to sign up to any site you don't trust implicitly. Always use a "disposable" email address. You could have 100 of them. AOL, HM or Yahoo for example. There is no limit on how many email addresses you can have. I wouldn't say SA is any scammyer than eHarmony.

I suspect if you got some good pussy off that site you wouldn't care anyway, so I will assume your travels at SA were less than fruitful. But don't hate the players.SA is particularly bad, compared to the others. Enough so that I felt it useful to the community to out them. They can fuck off and die.

Beachesnole02
09-19-14, 11:55
Come again??I have a place that I am a regular at, go hang out with the guys after work and shoot the shit with about football, whatever. It is a fairly popular place. So this attractive youg woman opened a new SA profile, and in her public picture, you can see me there standing in the background. (and yes, I probably was checking out her ass, but I don't recall it).

Mlaven19
09-20-14, 19:51
So I made a SD4 ME account and I have talked to many girls some were cool others ok. I'd say about 5 of them sent me some great pics.

I met up with one took her to lunch. Then a day later we went to a movie. We sat in the back of the movie and she gave me a great DT BBBJ. The only things I paid for was lunch and the movie. Still talking to her and might meet her up later. 20 yo about 5'6" face is 6/10 body is 6/10 attitude 10/10 skills 9/10.

Another one I've been texting has been sending me some amazing things and wants to meet up. I'll write back on here once that happens. 22 yo face is 710 body is 7/10 (great tits) attitude 12/10 skills I'll need to report back.

I know I don't post much, but I usually don't succede. LOL.

HollywoodGuy
09-20-14, 22:34
I met up with one took her to lunch. Then a day later we went to a movie. We sat in the back of the movie and she gave me a great DT BBBJ. The only things I paid for was lunch and the movie. Still talking to her and might meet her up later. 20 yo about 5'6" face is 6/10 body is 6/10 attitude 10/10 skills 9/10.
Sounds like a real keeper.

HollywoodGuy
09-20-14, 22:45
I recommend this one. I low balled her so things didn"t work out. But I did go on two dates with her before she ditched me and she is very sexy. But now she won't return my txt's. Can't say what her regular rates are but at least $$. She does have her own small but clean apt in what seems like a sketchy area but actually its not a problem at all. I only wish she liked me as much as I liked her.

She is prettier than her pick and about 10 lbs heavier. Still a great body and a cool chick IMHO. She also doesn't smoke, drink or do drugs.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2355854-sexyvegan-Beverly-Hills-California-SugarBaby

HollywoodGuy
09-20-14, 22:47
A little more on the last post. Best time to see her seems to be between 6 pm and 9 pm

Jack Reacher
09-21-14, 13:27
I have a place that I am a regular at, go hang out with the guys after work and shoot the shit with about football, whatever. It is a fairly popular place. So this attractive youg woman opened a new SA profile, and in her public picture, you can see me there standing in the background. (and yes, I probably was checking out her ass, but I don't recall it).Hilarious!!

RedMoney
09-21-14, 14:24
My question is do you pay for the SD4 ME account or just have a free account?


So I made a SD4 ME account and I have talked to many girls some were cool others ok. I'd say about 5 of them sent me some great pics.

HollywoodGuy
09-21-14, 14:47
My question is do you pay for the SD4 ME account or just have a free account?You will never meet anyone if you don't have a paid account. A gold one. I have 2.

CreamyBare
09-21-14, 18:59
Or she's retarded.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2969573-bIGSPOON-Montclair-California-SugarBaby

In short, I indicated that I liked hot passionate sex. And I asked her what mind of donation she was looking for.

This is her response:



Fuck you
ROTFLMAO.

Like what kind of questions did you expect, posting on a sugar daddy site? LOL.

CreamyBare
09-21-14, 19:28
You will never meet anyone if you don't have a paid account. A gold one. I have 2.Do you find that the "total, access" is actually useful?

RedMoney
09-21-14, 23:46
Yeah I am not active enough to fork over that much money a month and pay the girl on top of that. I might find a girl once every 2-3 months if it was a sure thing. I will stick to the MILF's that end up giving me freebies or heavy discounts. I am young and good looking so they usually like me. Girls my age are money focused and the younger ones have been hit or miss and mostly miss.


You will never meet anyone if you don't have a paid account. A gold one. I have 2.

HollywoodGuy
09-22-14, 12:41
Do you find that the "total, access" is actually useful?Yes. For me, I budget close to 3 k a month hobbying, so the cost of my 2 memberships is negligible.

Mlaven19
09-23-14, 21:15
Yes. For me, I budget close to 3 k a month hobbying, so the cost of my 2 memberships is negligible.Wow. 3 k?! Your'e the man!

Update on second girl I talked about in my last post. Met her up for coffee this morning. She has really messed up teeth but again all I paid was for coffee and got some loving so I guess I have to look past the teeth.

HollywoodGuy
09-23-14, 23:39
Can someone offer this girl $$ and see if she takes it. I already got turned down for $ so now I can't hit her up again.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-3074846-Jasmine818-North-Hollywood-California-SugarBaby

CreamyBare
09-24-14, 07:19
Can someone offer this girl $$ and see if she takes it. I already got turned down for $ so now I can't hit her up again.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-3074846-Jasmine818-North-Hollywood-California-SugarBabyMeh, she's pretty non-responsive. I'm guessing she's thinking she'll land a full time deal, she doesn't seem to be into one time or occasional flings.

HollywoodGuy
09-24-14, 12:32
Meh, she's pretty non-responsive. I'm guessing she's thinking she'll land a full time deal, she doesn't seem to be into one time or occasional flings.I finally did get her attention. She want 4 bills per date.

CreamyBare
09-24-14, 17:07
I finally did get her attention. She want 4 bills per date.Not sure where these girls come from, LOL. I had some recently that quoted be anywhere from 500 to 1000 to 1500.

"500-1000" seems to be what most of them are asking for. Does anyone really pay this much for a session??

I respond with 200-300 depending, and I think that is probably too much and over spending. Maybe I'm spoiled, but for 200, most girls give me multiple hours, multiple pops, BB anything, kissing, cuddles, GFE.

200 I consider 200 the base rate for a session. If I "really HAVE to have her" (as in I can't get her out of my head) I'll go to 300.

Keeping in mind that in OTHER industrialized nations like Canada, Germany, etc etc. You get what I just described above for US 120 and LESS.

So, I'm probably OVER PAYING with 200, but I like the girl to be happy and look forward to seeing me. But 500? Forget it! For 500 it has better be an OVERNIGHT.

Pufnik
09-25-14, 09:01
Not sure where these girls come from, LOL. I had some recently that quoted be anywhere from 500 to 1000 to 1500.

"500-1000" seems to be what most of them are asking for. Does anyone really pay this much for a session??

I respond with 200-300 depending, and I think that is probably too much and over spending. Maybe I'm spoiled, but for 200, most girls give me multiple hours, multiple pops, BB anything, kissing, cuddles, GFE.

200 I consider 200 the base rate for a session. If I "really HAVE to have her" (as in I can't get her out of my head) I'll go to 300.

Keeping in mind that in OTHER industrialized nations like Canada, Germany, etc etc. You get what I just described above for US 120 and LESS.

So, I'm probably OVER PAYING with 200, but I like the girl to be happy and look forward to seeing me. But 500? Forget it! For 500 it has better be an OVERNIGHT.It has been my experience that many of these ladies will in fact settle for much less and different situations besides a sugar daddy, because they are also posting on sites like BP. Most of what they say is BS and they are just trolling for suckers.

HollywoodGuy
09-25-14, 11:30
Not sure where these girls come from, LOL. I had some recently that quoted be anywhere from 500 to 1000 to 1500.

"500-1000" seems to be what most of them are asking for. Does anyone really pay this much for a session??

I respond with 200-300 depending, and I think that is probably too much and over spending. Maybe I'm spoiled, but for 200, most girls give me multiple hours, multiple pops, BB anything, kissing, cuddles, GFE.

200 I consider 200 the base rate for a session. If I "really HAVE to have her" (as in I can't get her out of my head) I'll go to 300.

Keeping in mind that in OTHER industrialized nations like Canada, Germany, etc etc. You get what I just described above for US 120 and LESS.

So, I'm probably OVER PAYING with 200, but I like the girl to be happy and look forward to seeing me. But 500? Forget it! For 500 it has better be an OVERNIGHT.Never pay over $ a session. That way no matter what you can't really get burned.

CreamyBare
09-25-14, 17:20
Never pay over $ a session. That way no matter what you can't really get burned.Wow, I've never been able to negotiate down to 100, at least not the ones I'm after.

As far as being burned, I never, ever, pay in advance. I only pay at session end. My sessions usually "end up" being multi hour, sometimes even overnight.

HollywoodGuy
09-25-14, 19:06
Wow, I've never been able to negotiate down to 100, at least not the ones I'm after.

As far as being burned, I never, ever, pay in advance. I only pay at session end. My sessions usually "end up" being multi hour, sometimes even overnight.I pay what I can afford.

CreamyBare
09-25-14, 21:26
I pay what I can afford.Well, you got a better game than me! Well done. .

DavidTheSancho
11-05-14, 21:09
Or she's retarded.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2969573-bIGSPOON-Montclair-California-SugarBaby

In short, I indicated that I liked hot passionate sex. And I asked her what mind of donation she was looking for.

This is her response:

ROTFLMAO.

Like what kind of questions did you expect, posting on a sugar daddy site? LOL.Too bad she's a looker.

Anyone have any luck lately?

NeoMatrix
11-06-14, 23:13
Well, you got a better game than me! Well done. .You have to be into black girls to get them at 100 like Hollywood.

HollywoodGuy
11-06-14, 23:29
You have to be into black girls to get them at 100 like Hollywood.I do them out of preference. But they are more reasonable for sure.

Dolato
11-07-14, 19:22
You have to be into black girls to get them at 100 like Hollywood.I've had latinas and a white girl in the past at 100. Good luck trying to get an asian girl at that $ though.

Besides, you can be into black girls and still not get them at 100 like HG if you don't have the game he does.

HeartofaLion
11-07-14, 19:28
Yes, take his word seriously.


Never pay over $ a session. That way no matter what you can't really get burned.

HollywoodGuy
11-07-14, 21:00
It takes game and I get rejected a lot too. But I don't care. And I agree that it would be tough to get any asian girl for $.

FunTrust
11-08-14, 01:28
Of course its impossible to generalize, but most asians on these sites know the guys really want them and they hold out. Would rather no action today then do it below thier worth they think they have. Most seem to be in for the money only, which is fine.

Many black girls want to make the money. They would rather do 3 at 100 then none at 300. And if the guy is hot, they seem to like the sex more. This was told to me by a black hottie who I did a hhr for 120, and she was fine. But her goal was 700 a day, so better 4 guys then maybe none or 1 at 200. She was 25 and admitted that old guys were work, but younger guys was almost fun. She could fake the big O really well.

HollywoodGuy
11-09-14, 14:40
Of course its impossible to generalize, but most asians on these sites know the guys really want them and they hold out. Would rather no action today then do it below thier worth they think they have. Most seem to be in for the money only, which is fine.

Many black girls want to make the money. They would rather do 3 at 100 then none at 300. And if the guy is hot, they seem to like the sex more. This was told to me by a black hottie who I did a hhr for 120, and she was fine. But her goal was 700 a day, so better 4 guys then maybe none or 1 at 200. She was 25 and admitted that old guys were work, but younger guys was almost fun. She could fake the big O really well.Of course they want younger guys that can't hold back for more than 5 or 10 minutes or even less (a one pump chump). They pay for an hour and its over in 15 minutes. LOL. I once had a pro call me at midnite. She says I have fucked four guys today and made 800 and haven't cum once. Can you please come over and fuck me?. (for free) And I did.

Dolato
11-09-14, 23:34
Of course they want younger guys that can't hold back for more than 5 or 10 minutes or even less (a one pump chump). They pay for an hour and its over in 15 minutes. LOL. I once had a pro call me at midnite. She says I have fucked four guys today and made 800 and haven't cum once. Can you please come over and fuck me?. (for free) And I did.You should have charged her for your outcall service.

HollywoodGuy
11-11-14, 22:58
You should have charged her for your outcall service.Lets face it. A lot of the guys on this site can outfuck most of the girls. Thats why I stick to NP's. The pros can get worn out seeing too many guys.

Josh Inyu
11-22-14, 22:53
I have read most of this thread and found it invaluable. As an SD in a small market there is no local thread for me to post to, so if there is no objection, I'd enjoy sharing my experiences on this board. No competition for girls and a chance to exchange techniques for contact.

Took the plunge and signed up for SA as a premium member this past week. I've found sb's 'in the wild' in the past but looking for a more reliable supply of tender, young girls to ravage with my 60+ yo body. Got a few messages from scammers and a transsexual even though I am quite clear about what I need and want. Red Flag: Anyone that 'favorites' you and hasn't even looked at your profile. But things got a lot better quickly. Currently have contact (I initiated) with five girls and have set up meets with all of them over the next two weeks. Took all the advice from here and concentrated on the newer profiles. One redhead, a blonde, 2 brunettes and an Asian. The oldest is 35 the youngest 18 (I'll be checking her I'd for sure). Let them all know early on that sex is a major part of the arrangement and not one prospect lost to being frank. One 23 yo is most likely a utr girl as she seems the most transactional of the group.

So I'm encouraged that even in a small market as opposed to LA there seems to be plenty of availability. I'll post up my experiences if there is any interest.

Josh.

Dolato
11-24-14, 00:36
So I'm encouraged that even in a small market as opposed to LA there seems to be plenty of availability. I'll post up my experiences if there is any interest.

Josh.Best of luck to you in the sugar bowl. We'd all enjoy your input on this board, but for your intel gathering the richmond va section has a thread for the topic that seems to be the SD / SB central for this site.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-...

I hope that link works.

There are guys from all over the country contributing in that thread.

HollywoodGuy
11-24-14, 02:04
Best of luck to you in the sugar bowl. We'd all enjoy your input on this board, but for your intel gathering the richmond va section has a thread for the topic that seems to be the SD / SB central for this site.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-...

I hope that link works.

There are guys from all over the country contributing in that thread.Including me. LOL.

Josh Inyu
11-26-14, 03:17
Thanks for the welcome and the link. I've a lot to learn!

A little update on my last post. Candidate #1 the 35 yo Asian flaked on the m / g, decided she couldn't because I'm married, or something else, who knows? I let her know the door is 'possibly' open for her later. Keeping them a little off-balance is helpful. Candidate #2 22,4'8", petite, a little emo in style, work / school, roommate. Seems sweet and compliant, just the way I like them. A little txt crazy at first but I put a stop to that. I'll be needing to pick her up for coffee and a trip to the FC. Have a m / g after the weekend. She really needs the sugar, $ is the plan for her. Candidate #3 is the 21 yo redhead, student / work, homecoming queen type. I'd searched her FB, MSp (doe's anyone use that anymore?) profiles after I met her. Today, she offers up her real First name, I tactfully decided not to txt back her Last name. LOL. She's about two hours away but wants to drive up on her day off. I'll spot her for the travel but not until we are at the m / g. If the universe is generous she'll visit the FC as well, I mean, why waste the drive and your day off?. LOL. If we do get there I'll be subtracting the travel expenses, she'll be a bargain at $. 5 or $$ in this market. She's txting me a few times a day. Candidate #4 nothing heard from the 19 yo brunette for a while. Just wait and see. Candidate #5 the 21 yo (mistakenly posted before as 23) blonde is only available on the WE's and I'm sure she'll be there if I need her. Strong feeling she is a utr. No problem as she's prime based on her photos and $$ for her would be good as long as it's multi-hour and rule free. She's down the list on need to close, np's take priority. Candidate #6 Sent another new girl a greeting and we've been exchanging messages. AA, 33 yo, divorced, very pretty and a tight looking body, great curves. She seemed relieved finding out my expectations of her and said she's only had one man in the last 4 years. Probably needs the relief! Seems promising, but so did the Asian.

Josh.

Leche
11-27-14, 04:39
A trip to the FC. ? What did you mean by that?


Thanks for the welcome and the link. I've a lot to learn!

A little update on my last post. Candidate #1 the 35 yo Asian flaked on the m / g, decided she couldn't because I'm married, or something else, who knows? I let her know the door is 'possibly' open for her later. Keeping them a little off-balance is helpful. Candidate #2 22,4'8", petite, a little emo in style, work / school, roommate. Seems sweet and compliant, just the way I like them. A little txt crazy at first but I put a stop to that. I'll be needing to pick her up for coffee and a trip to the FC. Have a m / g after the weekend. She really needs the sugar, $ is the plan for her. Candidate #3 is the 21 yo redhead, student / work, homecoming queen type. I'd searched her FB, MSp (doe's anyone use that anymore?) profiles after I met her. Today, she offers up her real First name, I tactfully decided not to txt back her Last name. LOL. She's about two hours away but wants to drive up on her day off. I'll spot her for the travel but not until we are at the m / g. If the universe is generous she'll visit the FC as well, I mean, why waste the drive and your day off?. LOL. If we do get there I'll be subtracting the travel expenses, she'll be a bargain at $. 5 or $$ in this market. She's txting me a few times a day. Candidate #4 nothing heard from the 19 yo brunette for a while. Just wait and see. Candidate #5 the 21 yo (mistakenly posted before as 23) blonde is only available on the WE's and I'm sure she'll be there if I need her. Strong feeling she is a utr. No problem as she's prime based on her photos and $$ for her would be good as long as it's multi-hour and rule free. She's down the list on need to close, np's take priority. Candidate #6 Sent another new girl a greeting and we've been exchanging messages. AA, 33 yo, divorced, very pretty and a tight looking body, great curves. She seemed relieved finding out my expectations of her and said she's only had one man in the last 4 years. Probably needs the relief! Seems promising, but so did the Asian.

Josh.

Josh Inyu
11-27-14, 17:24
A trip to the FC. ? What did you mean by that?The Fuck Chamber, seems to be in the common nomenclature of this thread and the Richmond thread as well. Candidate #2 understands there is no sugar without Daddy getting a dip in the honeypot. She's set up for Tuesday as I don't have time for her before then. No guarantees with any of these girls, but she's under enough financial stress that I don't think she will want me to take her back to her apartment empty handed. She's a SB by circumstance and her circumstances dictate that I hold all the cards.

Josh.

Josh Inyu
12-14-14, 19:37
The week of scheduled M&G's has passed.

Candidate #2, EmoGirl. Did a last minute flake the afternoon we were to meet. This one had seemed the most eager to meet. Now radio silence.

Candidate 3#, GingerGirl. We mutually agreed to cancel the meet as the logistics were just too tough. Maintaining contact but the longer the delay in the M&G the less likely it is to happen.

Candidate's 4, 5, 6 have turned into Vapor-Babies (VB). Dropped off the site, no contact.

Candidate #7, AA, 19 yo, 5' Spinner. Started chatting with her just prior to the interview window. Working student lives with a relative. As things weren't going well with the preplanned schedule I moved her M&G to Thursday from Friday. Had coffee, she had a smoothie. Chatted for about an hour. Heard about SA from a friend. LOL that 'friend' gets around. I'd love to meet her. No direct sugar demands which I like. She is anxious for a second date which would be direct to the FC. Tight little body on the parting hug.

Candidate # 8, HWB, 18, Flaked on the M&G. Still continues to txt. Might give her another chance. See her as a potential booty call girl.

Candidate #9, 27, single mom, I dropped by her work place to scope her out (with permission). 7/7/ She knows what the protocol is and it would be purely transactional which is fine for a booty call baby.

So I txt #7 the next day telling her that her allowance is ready and she should come by and pick it up. She txt's back saying she's at work for another hour before she can come by. I give her the info on where to come and to txt me when she's in the parking lot. She arrives and I talk her up to the room by phone.

I offer her a drink and a seat. She seems a bit nervous which turns me on even more. I ask her to stand up, take her hand and draw her to me. I whisper to her that now I want a real hug as my right hand finds purchase on her tight ass cheek. She literally melts into me, I lean forward, her lips but a cm away. And she closes the gap. Her kisses are tentative at first but the innocence soon gets pushed aside by hunger and her tongue starts to probe for some LFK. I sit down on the bed and have her stand in front of me for Sugar Baby Inspection. She's dressed in a skin tight T and jeans, I have her do a few poses and slowly reveal her full body for the first time. She's awesome. Perfect be tit's firm and proud not a hint of sag. Toned and tight everywhere. Face, striking features with large eyes that look so inviting. Skin soft and smooth no leg hair so she doesn't need to shave, trimmed kitty. I ask her if she likes to play dress-up, surprise! She does. I have an outfit for her to wear, off to the bathroom where she changes. Wow! Mesh partially see through chemise in pink and a set of white fishnet arm stockings. She looked just like the porn star Daddy wanted her to be. I take some documentary photo's of her in the 'fuck me' outfit. She likes how they turn out. She's lying on the bed at this point of the photo shoot I'm telling her what a great model she makes. I pull her to the edge of the bed and have her sit up. She is instructed to undo my belt and pants, she wastes no time and soon they and my underwear are on the floor. I take a pillow and place it on the floor for her to kneel on. She has already spontaneously started to work josh jr. She looks so hot with her on her knees working me with her mouth. She takes direction quite well, when to work the head, when to take and hold it deep. Excellent tongue skills. Needs additional training in the scrotal sector, but that's why I'm here. Yes? Could have busted a nut right then but held off as I wanted a taste of her other charms as well. Drew her up to a standing position she slides me into her thigh gap and starts to rock back and forth, nice. Very deep french at this point as my baby is getting warmed up to our encounter. Put her face down on the bed and give her a sensual massage. This I am good at as I've been the recipient of many while on the road in Asia. Play and tease and help them relax. On the flip they get the special breast and labia massage. IMHO this is where you can really develop a connection with your girl if you're willing to be attentive to her reactions and body language. Now that she is sufficiently aroused I brought her over the edge with oral play. Very hypersensitive after her orgasm I went back to breast play to allow her time to cool off. More oral with some finger banging and pop#2 for her. I move up and straddle her for a little face fucking. Nothing too hard until she has more training. Main event, move her bottom to the edge of the bed, she pulls her legs up and holds on to her ankles (track star) I position myself and work my way into her inch by inch. I fuck her nice and slow at first, sometimes only popping the head in and out, other times long slow strokes to full penetration. As I feel her open up I start to thrust with more conviction. She looks up at me with a beaming smile. Flip her to doggie so I can see that tight ass jumping back on my cock. Pull her on her side and finish in spoon. We lay around on the bed chatting and sharing a drink. Soon she's playing with little josh again and Round 2 follows closely on. This time a little breath play thrown in during missionary brought her to a very intense orgasm. She wants to try more of this and I'll be happy to oblige with her training. This time I finished in her eager little mouth complete with swallow. Her score 4, my score 2. First FC visit 3. 5 hrs absolutely worth it. No discussion of sugar, gave her $$ as I want to keep her exclusive. She already allows non action pics so it's only a small step to action and video shots as well. Think I found a keeper. She's been txting about how much fun she had and wants to have a repeat soon. She curious to know more about Daddy's 'dark side'.

In conclusion, I have one solid AA girl, two girls I've got on the slow walk to the FC and one that's a booty call. All this with a one month sub to SA. Next time I need more leads I'll re-up for another month. Not the best stat-wise and certainly no where near the league of HW or the other esteemed posters here but okay for me in this small market. I now have a very sweet 19 yo SB I didn't have a month ago and life is good.

I'm at page 196 on the Richmond blog.

HollywoodGuy
12-15-14, 02:55
In conclusion, I have one solid AA girl, two girls I've got on the slow walk to the FC and one that's a booty call. All this with a one month sub to SA. Next time I need more leads I'll re-up for another month. Not the best stat-wise and certainly no where near the league of HW or the other esteemed posters here but okay for me in this small market. I now have a very sweet 19 yo SB I didn't have a month ago and life is good.

I'm at page 196 on the Richmond blog.Great post. Next time try using a few more paragraph breaks for easier reading. And post some pics. What state or city you in?

Normus Johnson
12-15-14, 13:05
The week of scheduled M&G's has passed.

Candidate #2, EmoGirl. Did a last minute flake the afternoon we were to meet. This one had seemed the most eager to meet. Now radio silence.

Candidate 3#, GingerGirl. We mutually agreed to cancel the meet as the logistics were just too tough. Maintaining contact but the longer the delay in the M&G the less likely it is to happen.

Candidate's 4, 5, 6 have turned into Vapor-Babies (VB). Dropped off the site, no contact.

Candidate #7, AA, 19 yo, 5' Spinner. Started chatting with her just prior to the interview window. Working student lives with a relative. As things weren't going well with the preplanned schedule I moved her M&G to Thursday from Friday. Had coffee, she had a smoothie. Chatted for about an hour. Heard about SA from a friend. LOL that 'friend' gets around. I'd love to meet her. No direct sugar demands which I like. She is anxious for a second date which would be direct to the FC. Tight little body on the parting hug.

Candidate # 8, HWB, 18, Flaked on the M&G. Still continues to txt. Might give her another chance. See her as a potential booty call girl.

Candidate #9, 27, single mom, I dropped by her work place to scope her out (with permission). 7/7/ She knows what the protocol is and it would be purely transactional which is fine for a booty call baby.

So I txt #7 the next day telling her that her allowance is ready and she should come by and pick it up. She txt's back saying she's at work for another hour before she can come by. I give her the info on where to come and to txt me when she's in the parking lot. She arrives and I talk her up to the room by phone.

I offer her a drink and a seat. She seems a bit nervous which turns me on even more. I ask her to stand up, take her hand and draw her to me. I whisper to her that now I want a real hug as my right hand finds purchase on her tight ass cheek. She literally melts into me, I lean forward, her lips but a cm away. And she closes the gap. Her kisses are tentative at first but the innocence soon gets pushed aside by hunger and her tongue starts to probe for some LFK. I sit down on the bed and have her stand in front of me for Sugar Baby Inspection. She's dressed in a skin tight T and jeans, I have her do a few poses and slowly reveal her full body for the first time. She's awesome. Perfect be tit's firm and proud not a hint of sag. Toned and tight everywhere. Face, striking features with large eyes that look so inviting. Skin soft and smooth no leg hair so she doesn't need to shave, trimmed kitty. I ask her if she likes to play dress-up, surprise! She does. I have an outfit for her to wear, off to the bathroom where she changes. Wow! Mesh partially see through chemise in pink and a set of white fishnet arm stockings. She looked just like the porn star Daddy wanted her to be. I take some documentary photo's of her in the 'fuck me' outfit. She likes how they turn out. She's lying on the bed at this point of the photo shoot I'm telling her what a great model she makes. I pull her to the edge of the bed and have her sit up. She is instructed to undo my belt and pants, she wastes no time and soon they and my underwear are on the floor. I take a pillow and place it on the floor for her to kneel on. She has already spontaneously started to work josh jr. She looks so hot with her on her knees working me with her mouth. She takes direction quite well, when to work the head, when to take and hold it deep. Excellent tongue skills. Needs additional training in the scrotal sector, but that's why I'm here. Yes? Could have busted a nut right then but held off as I wanted a taste of her other charms as well. Drew her up to a standing position she slides me into her thigh gap and starts to rock back and forth, nice. Very deep french at this point as my baby is getting warmed up to our encounter. Put her face down on the bed and give her a sensual massage. This I am good at as I've been the recipient of many while on the road in Asia. Play and tease and help them relax. On the flip they get the special breast and labia massage. IMHO this is where you can really develop a connection with your girl if you're willing to be attentive to her reactions and body language. Now that she is sufficiently aroused I brought her over the edge with oral play. Very hypersensitive after her orgasm I went back to breast play to allow her time to cool off. More oral with some finger banging and pop#2 for her. I move up and straddle her for a little face fucking. Nothing too hard until she has more training. Main event, move her bottom to the edge of the bed, she pulls her legs up and holds on to her ankles (track star) I position myself and work my way into her inch by inch. I fuck her nice and slow at first, sometimes only popping the head in and out, other times long slow strokes to full penetration. As I feel her open up I start to thrust with more conviction. She looks up at me with a beaming smile. Flip her to doggie so I can see that tight ass jumping back on my cock. Pull her on her side and finish in spoon. We lay around on the bed chatting and sharing a drink. Soon she's playing with little josh again and Round 2 follows closely on. This time a little breath play thrown in during missionary brought her to a very intense orgasm. She wants to try more of this and I'll be happy to oblige with her training. This time I finished in her eager little mouth complete with swallow. Her score 4, my score 2. First FC visit 3. 5 hrs absolutely worth it. No discussion of sugar, gave her $$ as I want to keep her exclusive. She already allows non action pics so it's only a small step to action and video shots as well. Think I found a keeper. She's been txting about how much fun she had and wants to have a repeat soon. She curious to know more about Daddy's 'dark side'.

In conclusion, I have one solid AA girl, two girls I've got on the slow walk to the FC and one that's a booty call. All this with a one month sub to SA. Next time I need more leads I'll re-up for another month. Not the best stat-wise and certainly no where near the league of HW or the other esteemed posters here but okay for me in this small market. I now have a very sweet 19 yo SB I didn't have a month ago and life is good.

I'm at page 196 on the Richmond blog.Nice job on the update.

Keep us posted.

Normus Johnson.

WHM69
12-27-14, 12:13
2014 is coming to a close. I've lost track of all the women I banged. I wish I had kept a diary.

This year I tried to concentrate on sugar babies and see where that led me. My 1-year subscription to SA is about to expire, and I have no plans to renew it any time soon.

I got laid with a lot of different girls, but for the most part it wasn't really worth the hassle. These girls on the sugar daddy sites are mostly a huge pain in the ass, and not worth the money.

The really hot and / or young girls get tons of attention and are hard to track down. Even if you do, they want $500 for a date.

Some of the girls act like outright hookers, and I got a few bangs for $100 to $150, but they weren't worth the trouble. I would have been better off getting a lady from HX.

I had one girl say she would hook up with me, but wanted to have lunch first, and that I needed to pay her $200 just to have lunch with her. I just laughed at her.

Almost all of them are flakes. I'll be emailing a girl, trying to set something up then suddenly she disappears and stops responding.

In general though they're just too expensive nowadays. I think the concept of being a Sugar Baby has gone mainstream and all these girls have really high expectations. The ones who are down to fuck for $100 are ugly and not worth it.

But despite all that, I did have some sexual variety from these girls in the last year, and it was an expensive and fun adventure. Also many of them are willing to go bareback on the first date. But for 2015 I'm going back to the true professionals. They're more reliable, more fun, better looking, and less expensive.

I'll leave you with some pictures of a few sugar babies I slayed in 2014. Feel free to compare notes.

357846357854357853357852357851357850357848357847357855.

HollywoodGuy
12-27-14, 12:40
2014 is coming to a close. I've lost track of all the women I banged. I wish I had kept a diary.

This year I tried to concentrate on sugar babies and see where that led me. My 1-year subscription to SA is about to expire, and I have no plans to renew it any time soon.

I got laid with a lot of different girls, but for the most part it wasn't really worth the hassle. These girls on the sugar daddy sites are mostly a huge pain in the ass, and not worth the money.

The really hot and / or young girls get tons of attention and are hard to track down. Even if you do, they want $500 for a date.

Some of the girls act like outright hookers, and I got a few bangs for $100 to $150, but they weren't worth the trouble. I would have been better off getting a lady from HX.

I had one girl say she would hook up with me, but wanted to have lunch first, and that I needed to pay her $200 just to have lunch with her. I just laughed at her.

Almost all of them are flakes. I'll be emailing a girl, trying to set something up then suddenly she disappears and stops responding.

In general though they're just too expensive nowadays. I think the concept of being a Sugar Baby has gone mainstream and all these girls have really high expectations. The ones who are down to fuck for $100 are ugly and not worth it.

But despite all that, I did have some sexual variety from these girls in the last year, and it was an expensive and fun adventure. Also many of them are willing to go bareback on the first date. But for 2015 I'm going back to the true professionals. They're more reliable, more fun, better looking, and less expensive.

I'll leave you with some pictures of a few sugar babies I slayed in 2014. Feel free to compare notes.

357846357854357853357852357851357850357848357847357855.No doubt it is a lot of work. I recognize one girl here. The black french one or whatever she was. She turned me down. LOL. I suppose the main attraction in getting these babes is to find ones that arent fucking anyone but you. A rare find but doable. Also knowing you can go bare without fear, if they are for real. And there is no such thing as clock watching. An average date is going to last for 2 to 3 hours.

As far as looks, the cute ones do want more, more than they are worth for sure. Personally I have a thing for NP first timers and this is the only place I can find them (when I can find them). CL seems much more difficult by comparison.

WHM69
12-27-14, 14:30
For some reason not all my attachments went through. I plowed through a long list.

357873357880357879357878357877357876357874357875357872357881.

WHM69
12-27-14, 14:30
No doubt it is a lot of work. I recognize one girl here. The black french one or whatever she was. She turned me down. LOL. I suppose the main attraction in getting these babes is to find ones that arent fucking anyone but you. A rare find but doable. Also knowing you can go bare without fear, if they are for real. And there is no such thing as clock watching. An average date is going to last for 2 to 3 hours.

As far as looks, the cute ones do want more, more than they are worth for sure. Personally I have a thing for NP first timers and this is the only place I can find them (when I can find them). CL seems much more difficult by comparison.Yeah, French Canadian black girl with a funny accent. You didn't miss much.

Why did she reject you?

HollywoodGuy
12-27-14, 14:33
Yeah, French Canadian black girl with a funny accent. You didn't miss much.

Why did she reject you?Because I only offered her $ a date.

Christophe1
12-27-14, 15:36
1. I've lost track of all the women I banged. I wish I had kept a diary.

2. This year I tried to concentrate on sugar babies and see where that led me. My 1-year subscription to SA is about to expire, and I have no plans to renew it any time soon.
I got laid with a lot of different girls, but for the most part it wasn't really worth the hassle. These girls on the sugar daddy sites are mostly a huge pain in the ass, and not worth the money.
The really hot and / or young girls get tons of attention and are hard to track down. Even if you do, they want $500 for a date.

3. But for 2015 I'm going back to the true professionals. They're more reliable, more fun, better looking, and less expensive.

4.I'll leave you with some pictures of a few sugar babies I slayed in 2014.
1. Hello. That's what I've been doing. The people I admire most always kept track of information by writing it down. Figure someone else may see something useful or at least just compare notes. There are a lot of secret places out there that are just by word of mouth and I get some of those tips too. Thank you.

2. It seems like paying more while allowing less is creating unrealistic expectations that these women can make money solely on good looks alone and just be handed cash forever. Personally, I can't stand people like that. Whatever someone does, they should at least earn it with an endearing trait revealing some character, respect, and/ or gratitude.

3. Professional all the way. Hi. Bye. Damn that was fun.

4. Awesome looking. Good for you, they must of been some wonderful experiences. Number 7 with the dogs looks GREAT.

Thanks for sharing.

HG! How are the BP women working out?

WHM69
12-27-14, 17:20
1. Hello. That's what I've been doing. The people I admire most always kept track of information by writing it down. Figure someone else may see something useful or at least just compare notes. There are a lot of secret places out there that are just by word of mouth and I get some of those tips too. Thank you.

2. It seems like paying more while allowing less is creating unrealistic expectations that these women can make money solely on good looks alone and just be handed cash forever. Personally, I can't stand people like that. Whatever someone does, they should at least earn it with an endearing trait revealing some character, respect, and/ or gratitude.

3. Professional all the way. Hi. Bye. Damn that was fun.

4. Awesome looking. Good for you, they must of been some wonderful experiences. Number 7 with the dogs looks GREAT.

Thanks for sharing.

HG! How are the BP women working out?Yeah, the blonde was a nice trophy fuck and she has her own place in Hollywood. A little expensive but worth the money.

I don't mess with BackPage girls anymore. If I want a pro, I use HX.

HollywoodGuy
12-27-14, 22:12
1. Hello. That's what I've been doing. The people I admire most always kept track of information by writing it down. Figure someone else may see something useful or at least just compare notes. There are a lot of secret places out there that are just by word of mouth and I get some of those tips too. Thank you.

2. It seems like paying more while allowing less is creating unrealistic expectations that these women can make money solely on good looks alone and just be handed cash forever. Personally, I can't stand people like that. Whatever someone does, they should at least earn it with an endearing trait revealing some character, respect, and/ or gratitude.

3. Professional all the way. Hi. Bye. Damn that was fun.

4. Awesome looking. Good for you, they must of been some wonderful experiences. Number 7 with the dogs looks GREAT.

Thanks for sharing.

HG! How are the BP women working out?I ended up meeting this tall spinner on the SD site about 8 weeks ago. Averaging a $ a date for 2 solid hours of sex. Every time we stopped it was because I was done. This girls hips never stop moving even when I stop for a rest. So been seeing her twice a week. The bottom line is I haven't had the time to even see anyone else besides her and my other regs. I actually saw vivian one day, the black barbie girl with boobs from a few years ago. But not going to repeat. I am still bookmarking a few girls, but haven't seen them.

Dog Rice
12-28-14, 03:25
I hear you, bro. I pretty much had similar experience in San Diego area. I had some luck with several nice non-pro SBs 2+ years ago, but after that, most of the gals are just expecting way too much. At least $300+ for date. I have withdrawn from the Sugar Bowl for almost a year now.


2014 is coming to a close. I've lost track of all the women I banged. I wish I had kept a diary.

This year I tried to concentrate on sugar babies and see where that led me. My 1-year subscription to SA is about to expire, and I have no plans to renew it any time soon.

I got laid with a lot of different girls, but for the most part it wasn't really worth the hassle. These girls on the sugar daddy sites are mostly a huge pain in the ass, and not worth the money.

The really hot and / or young girls get tons of attention and are hard to track down. Even if you do, they want $500 for a date.

Some of the girls act like outright hookers, and I got a few bangs for $100 to $150, but they weren't worth the trouble. I would have been better off getting a lady from HX.

I had one girl say she would hook up with me, but wanted to have lunch first, and that I needed to pay her $200 just to have lunch with her. I just laughed at her.

Almost all of them are flakes. I'll be emailing a girl, trying to set something up then suddenly she disappears and stops responding.

In general though they're just too expensive nowadays. I think the concept of being a Sugar Baby has gone mainstream and all these girls have really high expectations. The ones who are down to fuck for $100 are ugly and not worth it.

But despite all that, I did have some sexual variety from these girls in the last year, and it was an expensive and fun adventure. Also many of them are willing to go bareback on the first date. But for 2015 I'm going back to the true professionals. They're more reliable, more fun, better looking, and less expensive.

I'll leave you with some pictures of a few sugar babies I slayed in 2014. Feel free to compare notes.

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HollywoodGuy
12-28-14, 15:56
I hear you, bro. I pretty much had similar experience in San Diego area. I had some luck with several nice non-pro SBs 2+ years ago, but after that, most of the gals are just expecting way too much. At least $300+ for date. I have withdrawn from the Sugar Bowl for almost a year now.So you only date white and asian girls?

Dog Rice
12-28-14, 18:06
Nope. I am into all kind of gals: Hispanic, Black, White and Asian.

Here was overall experience:

- Hispanic pots. Most of them are UTRs or asking for gas money before even meeting.

- I had several black gals, but just no passion on bed.

- Several of my previous SBs (with them for at least several mths) are all either white or mixed.


So you only date white and asian girls?

HollywoodGuy
12-28-14, 18:20
Nope. I am into all kind of gals: Hispanic, Black, White and Asian.

Here was overall experience:

- Hispanic pots. Most of them are UTRs or asking for gas money before even meeting.

- I had several black gals, but just no passion on bed.

- Several of my previous SBs (with them for at least several mths) are all either white or mixed.A little surprised to hear this. Forgetting about getting bargain basement prices. There are numerous black and mixed hotties for $$. Many many many. I don't hit up white girls and don't seem to connect too well with hisp (to me they mostly just act white, LOL). I like asian girls but there arent too many on the sd site. Met very of them few over the years.

I can see why the asian addicted cruise the AMP's.

Dog Rice
12-29-14, 00:07
Thanks!! I tried for 2 months in the beginning of 2014 and had been offering $. 5 per date on most new pots on SDFM, but no luck. Either showing Pros attitude (like asking how long per date) or asking for more than $. 5. I tried to keep $. 5 as my starting point since I need to pay for FC. If going up to $$ + FC fee, I am looking at $$. 5 range. I can get a hot hassle-free escort between $$. 6 and $$ I do admit that non-Pro SB is awesome, but the time & financial trade off do not make sense for me.

Again, this is my own experience in San Diego.


A little surprised to hear this. Forgetting about getting bargain basement prices. There are numerous black and mixed hotties for $$. Many many many. I don't hit up white girls and don't seem to connect too well with hisp (to me they mostly just act white, LOL). I like asian girls but there arent too many on the sd site. Met very of them few over the years.

I can see why the asian addicted cruise the AMP's.

HollywoodGuy
12-29-14, 01:51
Thanks!! I tried for 2 months in the beginning of 2014 and had been offering $. 5 per date on most new pots on SDFM, but no luck. Either showing Pros attitude (like asking how long per date) or asking for more than $. 5. I tried to keep $. 5 as my starting point since I need to pay for FC. If going up to $$ + FC fee, I am looking at $$. 5 range. I can get a hot hassle-free escort between $$. 6 and $$ I do admit that non-Pro SB is awesome, but the time & financial trade off do not make sense for me.

Again, this is my own experience in San Diego.I know san diego is a tougher market but I am sure there are girls for $ or $. 5 for sure a date. And some will be pros or utr but you say you are dating them already. I know when just for the fuck of it I messaged some girls down there I was getting responses.

HollywoodGuy
12-30-14, 12:36
you just got real lucky finding young nave lower echelon girls who don't know any better.You hit the nail right on the head. I spend everyday looking for these girls. They are the best all around. I love being the very first guy ever to stick cash in a girls hand. My new ATF is a guaranteed NP first timer. It's one of the main reasons I love fucking her. Plus I love virgin role play. But since its not likely I,ll get one in real life, having them be a virgin to getting paid is the next best thing.

They are only lower echelon in the context of getting paid. Not in looks, skills or their willingness to please their daddy. I know its a needle in a haystack but its like any form of collecting (and we are collectors), the thrill of discovery and getting something no one else has.

But I have traded away a little in the looks dept here and there to get a newbie with the right attitude that wants and needs proper training. But not always. And I rarely lower my standards in the spinner dept.

Christophe1
12-30-14, 16:28
Sounds like both sides have unrealistic expectations. Some girls have inflated ideas of "arrangements" and some guys want to pay the same amount they pay for hookers for an unlimited amount of time. So many sites are tailored to what anyone is looking for, why mix them. Fake sugar daddies getting frustrated by pros on these sites yet the approach is no different than a john wanting a hooker. Paying a bill does not qualify anyone a sugardaddy, you just got real lucky finding young nave lower echelon girls who don't know any better.Yeah, I'm too young to be a sugar daddy.

I can get the experience for free or the same price as dating, with far less headaches. I did the NP thing for a year which probably isn't comparable. The girls and women back then hadn't really thought about the next level of doing it as a full time SB gig. From reading the board, it appears that the Sugar Baby idea is on BLAST by EVERYWHERE including regular media. A couple years ago, and before that, one could easily find women of different echelons in need of help. For me, a couple $60 or $100 dates turned into FWBs and having hours of sex. Actually, it was pretty great. At the time I didn't grasp the concept of limiting my choices. I wanted to try all the flavors of ice cream and still don't regret the ones I ate. Though for the time and effort, even with lots of free sex, it still wasn't worth it. Too much time, too much real life drama. Plus, I just don't get "selfies. " The mantra of the ages, "Kids TODAY. " I don't get the kick at looking at oneself all the time when there are so much other things to look at. Like myself. (He He. Joking).

It seems like in order to be a good sugar daddy one needs to take care of their choice. And if unable to do that, give enough money so they stick around. For me it would have to be a relationship based on mutual respect of some kind. No women is worth giving your money to if she doesn't respect you for more than your wallet. By doing that you create the very thing I want to destroy. Pretty Lazy Beooches.

Luckily, I can fool myself into thinking that I've never had to pay for pussy. Its so easy to go clubbing and make-out with a slew of girls, start orgies, and fuck all night. Good times. But it's also about refining ones skills. When I'm older, I want to have a vast store house of experienced knowledge to operate in order to maximize returns, while avoiding known and unknown pitfalls. In the future, being a sugar daddy is a strong possibility. Or, I want to have concubines. That's probably a stupid idea, but the greats in China and Arabia had thousands. Thousands!

Men today just aren't built like we used to be.

HollywoodGuy
12-30-14, 18:59
Yeah, I'm too young to be a sugar daddy.

I can get the experience for free or the same price as dating, with far less headaches. I did the NP thing for a year which probably isn't comparable. The girls and women back then hadn't really thought about the next level of doing it as a full time SB gig. From reading the board, it appears that the Sugar Baby idea is on BLAST by EVERYWHERE including regular media. A couple years ago, and before that, one could easily find women of different echelons in need of help. For me, a couple $60 or $100 dates turned into FWBs and having hours of sex. Actually, it was pretty great. At the time I didn't grasp the concept of limiting my choices. I wanted to try all the flavors of ice cream and still don't regret the ones I ate. Though for the time and effort, even with lots of free sex, it still wasn't worth it. Too much time, too much real life drama. Plus, I just don't get "selfies. " The mantra of the ages, "Kids TODAY. " I don't get the kick at looking at oneself all the time when there are so much other things to look at. Like myself. (He He. Joking).

It seems like in order to be a good sugar daddy one needs to take care of their choice. And if unable to do that, give enough money so they stick around. For me it would have to be a relationship based on mutual respect of some kind. No women is worth giving your money to if she doesn't respect you for more than your wallet. By doing that you create the very thing I want to destroy. Pretty Lazy Beooches.

Luckily, I can fool myself into thinking that I've never had to pay for pussy. Its so easy to go clubbing and make-out with a slew of girls, start orgies, and fuck all night. Good times. But it's also about refining ones skills. When I'm older, I want to have a vast store house of experienced knowledge to operate in order to maximize returns, while avoiding known and unknown pitfalls. In the future, being a sugar daddy is a strong possibility. Or, I want to have concubines. That's probably a stupid idea, but the greats in China and Arabia had thousands. Thousands!

Men today just aren't built like we used to be.There is no free pussy or very little. Free. Meaning free of cash, drama of any kind, commitment, having to listen to whatever. When yr paying for it, you are more likely to get it your way or no way. You seem to like Chinese culture. Then you are very aware of the the current trend there to brag about and show off how much you overpay for it. I sugar daddy for a couple reasons. I like heavily scripted sex. That can take multiple dates to learn. I like having a GF or least pretend to have one when we are together. I like companionship. I like the competition between the girls. I like NP's. And I really like little girls that need their daddy. And I don't like menus, clock watching or std's (cuz I only go bare).

Marlowe
12-31-14, 00:57
Yeah, I'm too young to be a sugar daddy.

I can get the experience for free or the same price as dating, with far less headaches. I did the NP thing for a year which probably isn't comparable. The girls and women back then hadn't really thought about the next level of doing it as a full time SB gig. From reading the board, it appears that the Sugar Baby idea is on BLAST by EVERYWHERE including regular media. A couple years ago, and before that, one could easily find women of different echelons in need of help. For me, a couple $60 or $100 dates turned into FWBs and having hours of sex. Actually, it was pretty great. At the time I didn't grasp the concept of limiting my choices. I wanted to try all the flavors of ice cream and still don't regret the ones I ate. Though for the time and effort, even with lots of free sex, it still wasn't worth it. Too much time, too much real life drama. Plus, I just don't get "selfies. " The mantra of the ages, "Kids TODAY. " I don't get the kick at looking at oneself all the time when there are so much other things to look at. Like myself. (He He. Joking).

It seems like in order to be a good sugar daddy one needs to take care of their choice. And if unable to do that, give enough money so they stick around. For me it would have to be a relationship based on mutual respect of some kind. No women is worth giving your money to if she doesn't respect you for more than your wallet. By doing that you create the very thing I want to destroy. Pretty Lazy Beooches.

Luckily, I can fool myself into thinking that I've never had to pay for pussy. Its so easy to go clubbing and make-out with a slew of girls, start orgies, and fuck all night. Good times. But it's also about refining ones skills. When I'm older, I want to have a vast store house of experienced knowledge to operate in order to maximize returns, while avoiding known and unknown pitfalls. In the future, being a sugar daddy is a strong possibility. Or, I want to have concubines. That's probably a stupid idea, but the greats in China and Arabia had thousands. Thousands!

Men today just aren't built like we used to be.I would assert that we aren't any less men than these Chinese or Arabians, but that we have been victimized by the Women's Liberation Movement, which has drastically changed the mindset of the women available to us to serve in such a capacity.

Josh Inyu
01-05-15, 14:38
Last month I took a membership in SA. As you can remember in my previous post the inaugural meet and greet week was a mixture of bitter and sweet. My one AA POT turned SB has been txting like crazy and we are set for an all niter this week. I have a few new fuck-me outfits for her to model with the intention of working towards some action shots once I can loosen her up a bit. So nice when a HCB txts me telling me she is horny and wants me to fill her orgasm quota for the week.

So I opened up a new profile on SA. Keeping tabs on SB#1 (hasn't logged on for over three weeks) and giving me a chance to fish for an additional trophy. Or two.

POT#2: 18, service job. Not a spinner which is more clearly my preference. But a 8. 5/ face; 6. 5/ body and a 7 personality. This is one that I could not connect with during the last interview window. Maybe the second time will be the charm. If she is a sexual dynamo she could break into regular category. But I'm not counting on this little chicken yet.

POT#3: Asian 19: school / work. On and off again correspondence but this week she's been much more engaging and we have a M&G scheduled for Friday. Seems really sweet but she could be GPS.

POT#4 Caucasion, 19, blond with a girl next door look. Also not a spinner so performance in other areas will be make it or break it with her.

I will give an after action report once there has been action to report.

Josh.

P.S. : How do you work the girls that you'd like to see while traveling? As I get to So Cal multiple times every year I would really love to have a UTR or SB for my visits. Do any babies specialize in that type of an arrangement? And if so what kind of profile clues may indicate that possibility.

HollywoodGuy
01-05-15, 18:58
Last month I took a membership in SA. As you can remember in my previous post the inaugural meet and greet week was a mixture of bitter and sweet. My one AA POT turned SB has been txting like crazy and we are set for an all niter this week. I have a few new fuck-me outfits for her to model with the intention of working towards some action shots once I can loosen her up a bit. So nice when a HCB txts me telling me she is horny and wants me to fill her orgasm quota for the week.

So I opened up a new profile on SA. Keeping tabs on SB#1 (hasn't logged on for over three weeks) and giving me a chance to fish for an additional trophy. Or two.

POT#2: 18, service job. Not a spinner which is more clearly my preference. But a 8. 5/ face; 6. 5/ body and a 7 personality. This is one that I could not connect with during the last interview window. Maybe the second time will be the charm. If she is a sexual dynamo she could break into regular category. But I'm not counting on this little chicken yet.

POT#3: Asian 19: school / work. On and off again correspondence but this week she's been much more engaging and we have a M&G scheduled for Friday. Seems really sweet but she could be GPS.

POT#4 Caucasion, 19, blond with a girl next door look. Also not a spinner so performance in other areas will be make it or break it with her.

I will give an after action report once there has been action to report.

Josh.

P.S. : How do you work the girls that you'd like to see while traveling? As I get to So Cal multiple times every year I would really love to have a UTR or SB for my visits. Do any babies specialize in that type of an arrangement? And if so what kind of profile clues may indicate that possibility.Look for girls that always seem to be online. Thats one clue.

WHM69
01-06-15, 13:53
My SA account expired, but had a couple girls text me who I had on the backburner.

They both want $500 just for a hookup. Absolute refusal to negotiate anything better.

This scene is getting ruined.

CreamyBare
01-06-15, 21:14
My SA account expired, but had a couple girls text me who I had on the backburner.

They both want $500 just for a hookup. Absolute refusal to negotiate anything better.

This scene is getting ruined.Seeking Arrangement is a joke. Scam city. Forget SA. SugarDaddyForMe seems better.

HollywoodGuy
01-10-15, 19:34
Seeking Arrangement is a joke. Scam city. Forget SA. SugarDaddyForMe seems better.Been on SD4 M for 7 years now. I have to say I like it.

Member #5794
01-10-15, 21:57
My buddy is on this site constantly. He has had the following results:

About 10 lunches with girls who waste guys' time. He probably paid 50 to 100 per lunch for no action. Lots of women with kids and hanging skin.

He paid a full grand to some girl who gave him a therapeutic massage.

5 k to a girl who he fell for and fucked twice.

2 grand for one girl to take a one day trip with him and quote him a really high price.

500 a toss to fuck girls with bad tits or in their "late 20's".

So, he blew about 10 k in a month for about 6-7 fucks. Guys go on there for the fantasy of having a "girlfriend" because their egos are all fucked up and want someone to kiss their ass and who does not smell like cock. So they over pay for girls who manage to appear legititmate.

CreamyBare
01-10-15, 22:38
My buddy is on this site constantly. He has had the following results:

About 10 lunches with girls who waste guys' time. He probably paid 50 to 100 per lunch for no action. Lots of women with kids and hanging skin.

He paid a full grand to some girl who gave him a therapeutic massage.

5 k to a girl who he fell for and fucked twice.

2 grand for one girl to take a one day trip with him and quote him a really high price.

500 a toss to fuck girls with bad tits or in their "late 20's".

So, he blew about 10 k in a month for about 6-7 fucks. Guys go on there for the fantasy of having a "girlfriend" because their egos are all fucked up and want someone to kiss their ass and who does not smell like cock. So they over pay for girls who manage to appear legititmate.Yup. The site "seeking arrangement" should be renamed "seeking to be played". LOL. Stay away.

Member #5570
01-11-15, 12:16
My buddy is on this site constantly. He has had the following results:

About 10 lunches with girls who waste guys' time. He probably paid 50 to 100 per lunch for no action. Lots of women with kids and hanging skin.

He paid a full grand to some girl who gave him a therapeutic massage.

5 k to a girl who he fell for and fucked twice.

2 grand for one girl to take a one day trip with him and quote him a really high price.

500 a toss to fuck girls with bad tits or in their "late 20's".

So, he blew about 10 k in a month for about 6-7 fucks. Guys go on there for the fantasy of having a "girlfriend" because their egos are all fucked up and want someone to kiss their ass and who does not smell like cock. So they over pay for girls who manage to appear legititmate.Looks like your buddy need to read the Baltimore thread from start to finish before he play in the sugar bowl.

He has lots of learning to do. No mean to offend, but he has no gAmes.

HollywoodGuy
01-11-15, 16:31
My buddy is on this site constantly. He has had the following results:

About 10 lunches with girls who waste guys' time. He probably paid 50 to 100 per lunch for no action. Lots of women with kids and hanging skin.

He paid a full grand to some girl who gave him a therapeutic massage.

5 k to a girl who he fell for and fucked twice.

2 grand for one girl to take a one day trip with him and quote him a really high price.

500 a toss to fuck girls with bad tits or in their "late 20's".

So, he blew about 10 k in a month for about 6-7 fucks. Guys go on there for the fantasy of having a "girlfriend" because their egos are all fucked up and want someone to kiss their ass and who does not smell like cock. So they over pay for girls who manage to appear legititmate.So 10 k the first month. If he cut that to 5 k the next month and then cut it in half again the following month it would be a good learning experience. To have 7 girls at 2. 5 k a month is reasonable. If he fucked all of them at least twice. Got to start somewhere. I was really no better in the beginning. You don't shoot par the first day on the course. But he has to man up for sure. I will venture to say he just came out of a LTR or marriage. That can kill your game.

cheapguy
01-11-15, 19:18
Anyone have any luck with Ashley Madison? I looked through the photos and saw a BP gal I had been with, but I am curious if this is something worthwhile?

HollywoodGuy
01-11-15, 22:19
Anyone have any luck with Ashley Madison? I looked through the photos and saw a BP gal I had been with, but I am curious if this is something worthwhile?Most people will tell you its a ton of work. But you could find classy married NP. But a lot of work.

Dorq01
01-12-15, 03:31
Most people will tell you its a ton of work. But you could find classy married NP. But a lot of work.Yes it takes some effort but if you are seeking a GFE it can be awesome. Especially when she found out her man cheated on her and she wants to pay him back. Weekly. For 6 years now.

HollywoodGuy
01-12-15, 13:09
Yes it takes some effort but if you are seeking a GFE it can be awesome. Especially when she found out her man cheated on her and she wants to pay him back. Weekly. For 6 years now.Makes me want to try it. How old is your steady?

Mankopako
01-12-15, 18:14
I joined AM and 7 months later I still haven't gotten anything out of it. Got 1 meeting out of it so far. This site is a ripoff as they create profiles of women who do not exist. They say so in their disclaimer that this is for the "entertainment" of their members!! What a bunch of BS! There are some legit females but you have to sift through the fake profiles. This makes it a very hit or miss proposition.

HollywoodGuy
01-13-15, 02:49
You really need to get these boxers!

LOL. Target has them.

Perfect for you.Now if they only had a Calvin Klein version.

Member #5794
01-14-15, 16:35
So 10 k the first month. If he cut that to 5 k the next month and then cut it in half again the following month it would be a good learning experience. To have 7 girls at 2. 5 k a month is reasonable. If he fucked all of them at least twice. Got to start somewhere. I was really no better in the beginning. You don't shoot par the first day on the course. But he has to man up for sure. I will venture to say he just came out of a LTR or marriage. That can kill your game.I kind of thought that this site was for the hard boiled monger who did not care for the fluff and sassafras. I stood with that group, and for some time I would not patronize these girls who do not see AA or other such BS. When I heard about the sugardaddy stuff, I saw it for what it was, massive monger exploitation. For many it is hard to be in one's own skin and a wage slave would love the idea of a permanent girlfriend type so that you do not have to deal with the brain damage of scheduling and other crapola.

But when I hear of the fucking guys are getting on these sites, I am actually now all for them. It gets rid of the mongers who are trying to be who they are not, like they are some type of saudi sheik with a harem. Unfortunately, these guys are on a budget and the girls are really not. Most of these girls need 5 k a month to live in a spartan lifestyle and they would rather find one sucker who can shoulder that load. Having multiple guys is just a pain, but there are few guys who can afford the 5 k. So what they do is take a guy downtown for like 2500 buy in, and then cut it off. Maybe they balled him twice or three times if that, and they can move on to another. Meanwhile, at least these gals, most of whom are in their late 30's and up, are off the baseline web, which is nice. These guys, with few exceptions, are overpaying just because they get a girl who does not have all the drama of a BP ad, but they get the drama in other forms.

As I say, there is no such thing as a 1000 dollar hooker, only a 1000 dollar john, and the sugardaddy sites are proving it. Kudos to the gals who are working the angle here.

HollywoodGuy
01-14-15, 17:10
I kind of thought that this site was for the hard boiled monger who did not care for the fluff and sassafras. I stood with that group, and for some time I would not patronize these girls who do not see AA or other such BS. When I heard about the sugardaddy stuff, I saw it for what it was, massive monger exploitation. For many it is hard to be in one's own skin and a wage slave would love the idea of a permanent girlfriend type so that you do not have to deal with the brain damage of scheduling and other crapola.

But when I hear of the fucking guys are getting on these sites, I am actually now all for them. It gets rid of the mongers who are trying to be who they are not, like they are some type of saudi sheik with a harem. Unfortunately, these guys are on a budget and the girls are really not. Most of these girls need 5 k a month to live in a spartan lifestyle and they would rather find one sucker who can shoulder that load. Having multiple guys is just a pain, but there are few guys who can afford the 5 k. So what they do is take a guy downtown for like 2500 buy in, and then cut it off. Maybe they balled him twice or three times if that, and they can move on to another. Meanwhile, at least these gals, most of whom are in their late 30's and up, are off the baseline web, which is nice. These guys, with few exceptions, are overpaying just because they get a girl who does not have all the drama of a BP ad, but they get the drama in other forms.

As I say, there is no such thing as a 1000 dollar hooker, only a 1000 dollar john, and the sugardaddy sites are proving it. Kudos to the gals who are working the angle here.Read the richmond thread to see how the successful SD's are doing. They probably average about $$ a date with no menus or time limits. It's a game that can be played and won. But it takes time to get rolling.

HollywoodGuy
01-15-15, 14:19
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2984956-Mixedcutie24-Los-Angeles-California-SugarBaby

I only saw her once. She was a nice girl, just not for me. I see she is on the site everyday lately. She drives. Can't give out her number but I am sure she responds to any serious member.

HollywoodGuy
01-17-15, 21:07
She was a nice girl. $$ and up? Saw her twice. Has her own clean place near LAX. Sexy girl.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3462856&from=mail_list

Marlowe
01-18-15, 02:28
She was a nice girl. $$ and up? Saw her twice. Has her own clean place near LAX. Sexy girl.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3462856&from=mail_listShe's hot, but way above my price range.

HollywoodGuy
01-19-15, 01:26
She's hot, but way above my price range.I saw her for $. But she wasn't too happy about that. Now she won't return my txt. Oh well, too bad because she was pretty chill. A lot of these girls figure they will take the risk for a $ thinking it could be over in 15-30 minutes. Right?. I would even settle for 45 minutes with her. But some guy or 2 pays way more and then that pretty much kills it for everyone else. I even told her I would see her at least once a week. No deal. I remember she asked me "is your dick always this hard?". I think what she meant to ask was "do you always go this long?" lol. I definitely like to get my hour.

I have lost a few good girls like this in the last year. They figure you will like them enough to offer more. But how can you be a regular at $$ a throw if you date a lot. Not possible for me. Also she is UTR not a NP. And a new NP will take less to get some emotional investment from a guy. This girl is all business.

A few months ago I did meet a nice NP that I am seeing twice a week, as I am more of the steady type guy. And she is right on target at $ a date, And thats a 2 hour date. She would go longer, but I cant. LOL. And the hunt goes on.

HollywoodGuy
01-20-15, 03:33
Her first day on the site so I messaged her. Tried a slightly different approach. But when I told I wouldn't pay $$ she went silent. I am a sucker for these waify types. But her attitude says UTR.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=4460144&from=mail_list

HollywoodGuy
01-20-15, 03:37
This one says she was down for $. Not going to follow up. Half persian. She sounded pretty hard up for cash. Somebody go for it.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-3172286-Rosesforrose-Azusa-California-SugarBaby

HollywoodGuy
01-20-15, 20:58
Hey marlowe. I accidentally deleted your post. To better clarify. Even though I do go bare. That one wasnt. BBBJ but CFS only.

AzMagic
01-20-15, 21:11
So 10 k the first month. If he cut that to 5 k the next month and then cut it in half again the following month it would be a good learning experience. To have 7 girls at 2. 5 k a month is reasonable. If he fucked all of them at least twice. Got to start somewhere. I was really no better in the beginning. You don't shoot par the first day on the course. But he has to man up for sure. I will venture to say he just came out of a LTR or marriage. That can kill your game.I have been a lurker for sometime but have to say this takes a bit of work. I have had contact with other members and have gotten some great advice. I have been in the bowl for 3 months I agree with Hollywood as far as if you can be patient the rewards are there. Last thought I was once the one who let them call the shots but that has changed. Good luck to all.

HollywoodGuy
01-23-15, 20:37
I have been a lurker for sometime but have to say this takes a bit of work. I have had contact with other members and have gotten some great advice. I have been in the bowl for 3 months I agree with Hollywood as far as if you can be patient the rewards are there. Last thought I was once the one who let them call the shots but that has changed. Good luck to all.They can never call the shots. Worst case scenario. I had one that turned into a stalker and had to have the LAPD remove her from my home on three separate occasions.

PaperTiger24
01-24-15, 18:09
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6521266?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

JParkLa
01-24-15, 20:22
I don't believe her "no-sex" policy. I know I don't want a sugar baby just to kiss.


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6521266?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

HollywoodGuy
01-24-15, 22:45
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6521266?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067The sugar baby stuff that hits the media is always bullshit and the girls always look barely fuckable.

BBLover07
01-25-15, 01:01
Yeah right. She's a hooker she can try to make herself look like a decent woman but she isn't. She's a Ho.


http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6521266?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067.

WHM69
01-25-15, 16:12
I was scrolling through the channels on DirectTV the other day and saw a movie on LifeTime called "Sugar Daddies".

The description said something about a college girl gets hooked up with an older rich man by her roommate.

I couldn't bring myself to watch even a single minute on Lifetime so I can't tell you more than that, but the concept has definitely hit the mainstream.

HollywoodGuy
01-25-15, 16:32
I was scrolling through the channels on DirectTV the other day and saw a movie on LifeTime called "Sugar Daddies".

The description said something about a college girl gets hooked up with an older rich man by her roommate.

I couldn't bring myself to watch even a single minute on Lifetime so I can't tell you more than that, but the concept has definitely hit the mainstream.It's definitely mainstream. I love the role as I am a somewhat stereotypical sugar daddy. And going beyond just the normal P2 P I get to pick the little girl types that want to make daddy happy. So much fun.

Livinitup
01-26-15, 01:42
They can never call the shots. Worst case scenario. I had one that turned into a stalker and had to have the LAPD remove her from my home on three separate occasions.Reminds me of an article in the newspaper last year about crazy chick that got stuck in a mongers chimney.

He had hooked-up with her from an ad' on Claigslist and was done with her. But she would not take no for answer and the fire brigade had to dismantle his chimney to get her out.

HollywoodGuy
01-26-15, 03:31
Reminds me of an article in the newspaper last year about crazy chick that got stuck in a mongers chimney.

He had hooked-up with her from an ad' on Claigslist and was done with her. But she would not take no for answer and the fire brigade had to dismantle his chimney to get her out.Yeah, my girl was nuts, but the upside is she probably clued me into what to look out for in the future. LOL. She was living here at one time. Anyway, don't really let anyone stay here any more. I have a roommate that pretty much keeps them in their place. I do the BF / GF thing with some girls but not for 5 months now. I got a new girl that wants to be my GF. But after a few dates she txted me one day and said she knew her place. Big relief. I have seen her over twenty times now.

HollywoodGuy
01-30-15, 14:26
This one quoted me 2 k a week. Very pretty girl. LOL.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-3191543-CollegeGirl28-BradleyInternational-California-SugarBaby

BBLover07
01-30-15, 14:40
LOL jesus talk about being out of your mind!!


This one quoted me 2 k a week. Very pretty girl. LOL.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-3191543-CollegeGirl28-BradleyInternational-California-SugarBaby

HollywoodGuy
02-02-15, 01:58
LOL jesus talk about being out of your mind!!she is model quality. But no biggie. There are so many willing girls. After the super bowl I went right back to the sugar bowl. Found a really nice 19 year old that has her own place. Going to check her out tomorrow.

BBLover07
02-02-15, 03:56
Nice! Please be sure to update us.


she is model quality. But no biggie. There are so many willing girls. After the super bowl I went right back to the sugar bowl. Found a really nice 19 year old that has her own place. Going to check her out tomorrow.

HollywoodGuy
02-03-15, 03:14
"I seek 1 k per visit if your open to that then send me you number k".

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9dd7c2c/view?conversation-inbox

I wonder if anyone is open to that?

CreamyBare
02-03-15, 13:34
"I seek 1 k per visit if your open to that then send me you number k".

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e9dd7c2c/view?conversation-inbox

I wonder if anyone is open to that?Seeking arrangement is such a scam, filled with scammers and scam girls. Stay away.

HollywoodGuy
02-03-15, 17:37
Seeking arrangement is such a scam, filled with scammers and scam girls. Stay away.You have to weed through those to get to the gold. It's well worth it. Here is a funny one though.

Her reply to my donation question.

"How are you. I have a few friends that are into this SB thing and its been something I would love to experience. I am looking for a real Sb that is ok with 800 to 1 k per visit arrangements. I am real with real pics and I am not into games. I am honest, on time, and love having a good time. I am currently a full time student and host at a popular restaurant. I just graduated from high school and on my own so I need all the help I can get right now. Being a freshmen in college is not easy. If you are open to what I seek, then send me your number so we can chat. ".

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1015f2c/view?conversation-inbox

CreamyBare
02-03-15, 18:01
You have to weed through those to get to the gold. It's well worth it. Here is a funny one though.I've had batter luck on SDFM.

HollywoodGuy
02-03-15, 20:35
I've had batter luck on SDFM.I am currently on both. But I have been on SD4 M for like 6 straight years, so I joined SA a week ago.

CreamyBare
02-04-15, 12:34
I am currently on both. But I have been on SD4 M for like 6 straight years, so I joined SA a week ago.I am curious to hear of any successful experiences on SA.

One thing I will, add, is that my spam folder tripled in size withing a week of joining SA for the email account I used.

HollywoodGuy
02-05-15, 20:19
I never want to be one of these.

"Angry White Male".

"Grumpy Old Man".

Or have this "Irritable Male Syndrome".

I would much rather be called a "Dirty Old Man".

Or to be PC, a Sugar Daddy.

HollywoodGuy
02-05-15, 20:30
I am curious to hear of any successful experiences on SA.

One thing I will, add, is that my spam folder tripled in size withing a week of joining SA for the email account I used.I just signed in to SA about 10 days ago. Had my first date last night but it was with a UTR girl. Not repeating. I have not received any spam at all from signing up to SA or SD4 M and I use a special email address only for that, so it would be very noticeable if I got any.

Rouleur
02-05-15, 22:40
I just signed in to SA about 10 days ago. Had my first date last night but it was with a UTR girl. Not repeating. I have not received any spam at all from signing up to SA or SD4 M and I use a special email address only for that, so it would be very noticeable if I got any.I've had the same experience as HG as far as SA goes. Special email just for the site and never a spam of any sort. Creamy, you don't mention how long ago you were a member of SA, perhaps quite some time ago?

CreamyBare
02-05-15, 23:55
I just signed in to SA about 10 days ago. Had my first date last night but it was with a UTR girl. Not repeating. I have not received any spam at all from signing up to SA or SD4 M and I use a special email address only for that, so it would be very noticeable if I got any.Hmm, well, the spam occurred right after I cancelled my account.

Member #5794
02-11-15, 19:25
So my buddy who wants a "girlfriend" who is not a "prostitute" has kind of suspended his SA activities. He is in love.

His story is really instructive to the girls out there who want to find guys who do not want to pay for sex and who really just want to pay too much for sex. I think the difference means that the guy feels like he is not paying for sex because as part of the payment, you have to listed to the guy talk about his problems and generally feather his ego. You have to take his calls as well. Kind of a bummer.

By my estimation, he spent about 12-15 k all in, including hotel rooms (unlike prostitutes, these girls are all outcall to hotels, LOL) to get laid about 8 times in the space of 2 months.

He has finally settled on a model in her high 30's, who looks younger. Natch, and who has agreed on a monthly deal with him. I assume the deal is about 3-5 k a month, and will last about as long as a couple months.

He has proceeded to give her 15 k in the space of a month because he is so taken by her. Like all "arrangements" both sides play the part and because he is paying at least 500 and closer to 1500 per shot, he really is not paying for sex. Sex is available for a much cheaper price. This girl is not on the internet selling sex (although she is), and she pays attention to him and can converse with him (which is something that most girls will do with you if you are in some sort of platonic relationship such as a gym class, work, or volleyball league). For an outrageous fee, he gets both and does not feel all gooey about it.

I think it is wonderful. He is out of the regular system, and girls who specialize in listening to guys will exit the professional field and stop overcharging the general population the real hard boiled mongers will be free to get women without crows feet to go yard.

HollywoodGuy
02-12-15, 00:32
So my buddy who wants a "girlfriend" who is not a "prostitute" has kind of suspended his SA activities. He is in love.

His story is really instructive to the girls out there who want to find guys who do not want to pay for sex and who really just want to pay too much for sex. I think the difference means that the guy feels like he is not paying for sex because as part of the payment, you have to listed to the guy talk about his problems and generally feather his ego. You have to take his calls as well. Kind of a bummer.

By my estimation, he spent about 12-15 k all in, including hotel rooms (unlike prostitutes, these girls are all outcall to hotels, LOL) to get laid about 8 times in the space of 2 months.

He has finally settled on a model in her high 30's, who looks younger. Natch, and who has agreed on a monthly deal with him. I assume the deal is about 3-5 k a month, and will last about as long as a couple months.

He has proceeded to give her 15 k in the space of a month because he is so taken by her. Like all "arrangements" both sides play the part and because he is paying at least 500 and closer to 1500 per shot, he really is not paying for sex. Sex is available for a much cheaper price. This girl is not on the internet selling sex (although she is), and she pays attention to him and can converse with him (which is something that most girls will do with you if you are in some sort of platonic relationship such as a gym class, work, or volleyball league). For an outrageous fee, he gets both and does not feel all gooey about it.

I think it is wonderful. He is out of the regular system, and girls who specialize in listening to guys will exit the professional field and stop overcharging the general population the real hard boiled mongers will be free to get women without crows feet to go yard.So he's an idiot. LOL. Over time he'll wise up. Or he's just rich. Like the guy from france that's been in the news lately. Those guys pay 5 k to 10 k a night with no problem. But they do get multiple girls in a night.

Ddddan218
03-29-15, 03:40
Hey all, I am totally new to SD / SB arrangement sites.

But since I got tired of craigslist and backpage, I recently joined sugardaddyforme site.

And I talked to this 22 years old Mexican chick.

And she already saw my pictures too.

I quoted her 100 but she did not give out specific answer (yes or no) but instead, suggesting we should have dinner together first and do the negotiation when we meet for dinner.

So I said yes and I am supposed to text her with my available date.

What is going on here?

Is she trying to make me paying for nice meal while she has no intention of accepting my 100 offer?

What should I do in this case?

Sorry for the dumb question but I would like to hear from the veterans in this scene.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

HollywoodGuy
03-29-15, 04:20
Hey all, I am totally new to SD / SB arrangement sites.

But since I got tired of craigslist and backpage, I recently joined sugardaddyforme site.

And I talked to this 22 years old Mexican chick.

And she already saw my pictures too.

I quoted her 100 but she did not give out specific answer (yes or no) but instead, suggesting we should have dinner together first and do the negotiation when we meet for dinner.

So I said yes and I am supposed to text her with my available date.

What is going on here?

Is she trying to make me paying for nice meal while she has no intention of accepting my 100 offer?

What should I do in this case?

Sorry for the dumb question but I would like to hear from the veterans in this scene.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!Meet her at a starbucks.

Clitguy
03-29-15, 08:39
Meet her at a starbucks.Meet her at a taco truck.

Ddddan218
03-29-15, 14:10
Great idea!

Thanks!


Meet her at a starbucks.

Ddddan218
03-29-15, 14:11
Sounds awesome except she would not even reply me back. Haha. : the.


Meet her at a taco truck.

Ddddan218
03-29-15, 14:13
This chick is 100% pro.

Asking rose per hour. Lolol.

Of course I declined.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=profile&pmid=4526475&from=mail_list

HollywoodGuy
03-29-15, 15:48
This chick is 100% pro.

Asking rose per hour. Lolol.

Of course I declined.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=profile&pmid=4526475&from=mail_listThe best thing to do is send your intro letter to maybe 20 a day for a week. That will keep you busy. LOL.

Ddddan218
03-29-15, 16:55
It already keeps me busy! lol

But no score yet. (sigh)

I am aiming to find a non-pro with 100 per date arrangement.

My preference at the moment is Latina chicks (my preference can be changed anytime. It's just that I am horny for Latina chicks at the moment.) with great BBBJCIM skill.


The best thing to do is send your intro letter to maybe 20 a day for a week. That will keep you busy. LOL.

HollywoodGuy
03-29-15, 19:22
It already keeps me busy! lol

But no score yet. (sigh)

I am aiming to find a non-pro with 100 per date arrangement.

My preference at the moment is Latina chicks (my preference can be changed anytime. It's just that I am horny for Latina chicks at the moment.) with great BBBJCIM skill.If you are OK with a couple extra lbs there are a lot of pretty latinas to be had for $. And thick ones galore.

Ddddan218
03-30-15, 10:49
That sounds super!

I don't mind extra pounds and I am not looking for petite types.

By any chance, can you PM me with the contact info of those Latina chicks?

(Not the ones you are currently seeing but the ones you got tired and not seeing anymore.).

If so, I can share the contact info of a non-pro, 3 holes access + swallow finish Latina with you.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!


If you are OK with a couple extra lbs there are a lot of pretty latinas to be had for $. And thick ones galore.

HollywoodGuy
03-30-15, 13:06
That sounds super!

I don't mind extra pounds and I am not looking for petite types.

By any chance, can you PM me with the contact info of those Latina chicks?

(Not the ones you are currently seeing but the ones you got tired and not seeing anymore.).

If so, I can share the contact info of a non-pro, 3 holes access + swallow finish Latina with you.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!Girls on SD sites don't normally get passed around unless they are UTR or pro. And I only date NP's. I have one on SA if you are a member.

Ddddan218
03-30-15, 13:39
I am not a member of SA (heard bad stories about them).

Can you share her (Latina from SA) contact info if you got tired of her?

I can share 3 holes, swallow finish Latina with you. .


Girls on SD sites don't normally get passed around unless they are UTR or pro. And I only date NP's. I have one on SA if you are a member.

HollywoodGuy
03-30-15, 22:23
Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps

SCJohn
03-31-15, 01:52
Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsGood info. I haven't taken the plunge yet, but this is helpful Thanks for sharing.

CsJuventus
03-31-15, 02:36
Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsI don't post much and I honestly don't frequent the SugarDaddy sites unless I don't find anything at all that attracts me, since I'm a younger person, but this is probably the best post I've seen on this forum (or actually a lot of forums). The general steps can be applied in multiple date4 money encounters, with certain adjustments of course.

So thank you for the time put in this post and willingness to share your experience and knowledge acquired in time, not only by reviewing girls. Respect to you!

HollywoodGuy
03-31-15, 12:06
Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsDefinitely mix this up if you are in L. A. County. OC and IE. No problem. I don't hit those areas.

BlackBone
03-31-15, 12:51
Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsThat is some good info thanks for the link.

Ddddan218
03-31-15, 16:33
Thanks a bunch for the super info!

Now I can see why you have been successful with girls!

And I didn't even aware that you can use the card of "2 - physical support.

3 - emotional support" as you put it.

I just thought they were seeking after cash, that's all.

This is really intriguing.

Again, thanks!


Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivesteps

Raider1206
03-31-15, 16:34
Looking to get into this whole sd site thing are they all pay to get on or how does it work.

HollywoodGuy
03-31-15, 18:31
Looking to get into this whole sd site thing are they all pay to get on or how does it work.You got to pay to play. Thats for sure.

HollywoodGuy
03-31-15, 18:32
Thanks a bunch for the super info!

Now I can see why you have been successful with girls!

And I didn't even aware that you can use the card of "2 - physical support.

3 - emotional support" as you put it.

I just thought they were seeking after cash, that's all.

This is really intriguing.

Again, thanks!Well, they are girls, not robots. LOL. and mostly NP's, but not all.

Raider1206
03-31-15, 22:14
You got to pay to play. Thats for sure.Ok thanks for the info just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only dumb ass paying while everyone else is on for free.

HollywoodGuy
04-01-15, 01:44
Ok thanks for the info just wanted to make sure I wasn't the only dumb ass paying while everyone else is on for free.I got a membership on SA and SD4M.

TW978
04-01-15, 10:15
Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsGreat info! Marked! Thanks for sharing!

HollywoodGuy
04-01-15, 21:38
Unless the super young ladies you seek, have daddy issues and or very insecure. I don't see them needing some sort of emotional support from someone that could be their grandfather.

If you approach a girl on these sites like a trick for the most part you will be treated as such. That's why I never understood if you have a low budget why not stick to BP and CL trolling for "nps" for less footwork and drama? Not everyone can be a predator like Hollywoodguy and get these ghettobirds for pennies. If you're seeking better quality and other races, you're going to have to pay more than total of everyone's budget on this entire blog LOL.Daddy Issues. My favorite. Its role play or no play. The more twisted the better.

A Trick? - Most say I am a treat. LOL.

Gettobirds. Some are and some aren't. I have never judged pussy by its socioeconomic status.

Predator - "a person or group that ruthlessly exploits others" - I beg to differ. Every girl I fuck knows she can very easily get paid more.

Pennies? - a $ a day for 20-25 days a month ain't pennies. And comparable white or asian girls will be more for sure.

Pay More for Better Quality. You must mean in the facial looks dept. A true statement for black girls or any other race.

Because as far as bodies. I routinely fuck hot spinners. I won't fuck any girl below a 7 or 8 in body and most are closer to 9's.

But lets not forget about another important issue. Going bare with an NP that's exclusive. And overall mileage? Some BP girls are beautiful but take too many dicks to get me interested. And BTW emotional support and real chemistry are big hooks for a lot of these girls. Real big. About equal to the sugar.

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04-01-15, 23:13
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Gassser
04-03-15, 00:53
Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsThank you so much. I have been working on my delivery for a few months. I think CL has some potential. If I use a better flow. Thanks again.

Thresh
04-04-15, 18:18
Ok. Here are my 5 Steps in an easy to read format. Happy hunting.

I will update it from time to time if I get a better approach or find any typos.

http://coach4ula.wix.com/fivestepsHollywood,

This page is SO good, I felt compelled to reply all the way from Raleigh, NC. Having this in place ensures the up-and-aspiring SDs have a 'play book' to success. I mean, the worse case scenario is you can gather enough information to make informed decisions on NOT moving forward with a potential SB.

You my friend win the gold star for such an informative page.

HollywoodGuy
04-04-15, 21:04
Hollywood,

This page is SO good, I felt compelled to reply all the way from Raleigh, NC. Having this in place ensures the up-and-aspiring SDs have a 'play book' to success. I mean, the worse case scenario is you can gather enough information to make informed decisions on NOT moving forward with a potential SB.

You my friend win the gold star for such an informative page.Please use it and then report back here. With pics if possible. And all the graphic details. Thanks.

Ddddan218
04-07-15, 18:26
Be very careful when you sign up sugardaddyforme site.

I found out that after I paid my first monthly fee of 55 dollars for them, 8 fraudulent charges were placed on my card in a row (on the same day).

Mind you that this is not my regular card but a prepaid Visa card that I made from Greendot for this specific purpose.

I charged 200 dollars for this and paid 55 dollars for monthly membership of sugardaddyforme and someone charged all the remaining balance with all kind of different scam charges (one is from Canada!

The investigator from Greendot company working with me is suspecting one of the employees of the company and I believe so too.

The Greendot credit card company is working on the issue but at the same time, I contacted sugardaddyforme and formally complained the issue.

Be very careful when you sign up on their site.

It looks like someone working for that company was stealing money from my card.

HollywoodGuy
04-08-15, 15:18
Be very careful when you sign up sugardaddyforme site.

I found out that after I paid my first monthly fee of 55 dollars for them, 8 fraudulent charges were placed on my card in a row (on the same day).

Mind you that this is not my regular card but a prepaid Visa card that I made from Greendot for this specific purpose.

I charged 200 dollars for this and paid 55 dollars for monthly membership of sugardaddyforme and someone charged all the remaining balance with all kind of different scam charges (one is from Canada!

The investigator from Greendot company working with me is suspecting one of the employees of the company and I believe so too.

The Greendot credit card company is working on the issue but at the same time, I contacted sugardaddyforme and formally complained the issue.

Be very careful when you sign up on their site.

It looks like someone working for that company was stealing money from my card.WOW. Thats the first time I have heard of that. Just a good reminder to always pay for everything with a card the has consumer protection on it. They have been known to bill after a cancellation for a month or two. But that has never happened to me either. But others have complained.

Masteful
04-10-15, 06:02
Daddy Issues. My favorite. Its role play or no play. The more twisted the better.

A Trick? - Most say I am a treat. LOL.

Gettobirds. Some are and some aren't. I have never judged pussy by its socioeconomic status.

Predator - "a person or group that ruthlessly exploits others" - I beg to differ. Every girl I fuck knows she can very easily get paid more.

Pennies? - a $ a day for 20-25 days a month ain't pennies. And comparable white or asian girls will be more for sure.

Pay More for Better Quality. You must mean in the facial looks dept. A true statement for black girls or any other race.

Because as far as bodies. I routinely fuck hot spinners. I won't fuck any girl below a 7 or 8 in body and most are closer to 9's.

But lets not forget about another important issue. Going bare with an NP that's exclusive. And overall mileage? Some BP girls are beautiful but take too many dicks to get me interested. And BTW emotional support and real chemistry are big hooks for a lot of these girls. Real big. About equal to the sugar.He is a hater, does not know what he is talking about.

Marlowe
04-10-15, 06:08
He is a hater, does not know what he is talking about.I totally disagree with you. Did you see his previous post. This guy gets it done. We should all be so lucky to have his contacts. I would definitely hit that.

HollywoodGuy
04-10-15, 12:10
Quote Originally Posted by Masteful.

"HollywoodGuy, you are my Idol, when I grow up I want to be like you. As a matter of fact I have learned quite a lot from you. Thank for commenting. ".

Thanks. I try.

Marlowe
04-10-15, 17:26
Quote Originally Posted by Masteful.

"HollywoodGuy, you are my Idol, when I grow up I want to be like you. As a matter of fact I have learned quite a lot from you. Thank for commenting. ".

Thanks. I try.So what are you saying? That he is two faced, or just bat shit crazy? Or perhaps the quote above was a feeble attempt at sarcasm?

HollywoodGuy
04-10-15, 17:38
So what are you saying? That he is two faced, or just bat shit crazy? Or perhaps the quote above was a feeble attempt at sarcasm?IDK. I just thought it was funny.

Marlowe
04-10-15, 20:14
IDK. I just thought it was funny.Me, too, but in case he was serious, I wanted to back up your creds. , as others have done for me on occasion.

Rouleur
04-10-15, 20:24
Me, too, but in case he was serious, I wanted to back up your creds. , as others have done for me on occasion.With over 2100 posts and overwhelming positive feedback regarding his posts, not to mention HG's willingness to help other Members, my Vegas money is on HollwoodGuy knowing what he is talking about.

IsopMan
04-17-15, 00:54
Saw my barely legal little teen angel tonite, 5'5" and 105. In spite of many camera fumbles I still managed to get off a few shots. She definitely prefers back door action. Tonite it was about 50/50 front to back. A sweet little church girl that goes ass to mouth and back again. She wants daddy to be happy and very little more. Damage was $.Hey can I get info on that Black Teen girl. Just my type. Then again. Anyone who's a **** is my type. Thanks in advance.

Marlowe
04-17-15, 01:10
Hey can I get info on that Black Teen girl. Just my type. Then again. Anyone who's a **** is my type. Thanks in advance.I don't think this is the type of girl that is shared openly. I think the attraction of these sites and paying big bucks (the magnitude depends upon how much game you have, apparently) is that they see a minimum # of guys as opposed to your common street girl or BP CL poster.

HollywoodGuy
04-17-15, 13:07
Hey can I get info on that Black Teen girl. Just my type. Then again. Anyone who's a **** is my type. Thanks in advance.She is exclusive to me for now. As are basically all my regular girls. And if they are not exclusive its usually because they have a same age BF and that's it. But she is all mine for now.

HollywoodGuy
04-17-15, 13:54
There is a non pro thread on this site that is usually reserved for fresh UTR girls. But this thread is for SB's. The step that usually comes before the UTR level. For every girl there is always a first time. Not all SB's I see are first timers but most are and even if they are not they believe in one SD at a time. As game is equal to money for these girls, passing along their info would amount to basically nothing.

Get a membership to SA or SD4M and start fishing.

Marlowe
04-17-15, 20:41
She is exclusive to me for now. As are basically all my regular girls. And if they are not exclusive its usually because they have a same age BF and that's it. But she is all mine for now.As far as you know, LOL. Most of these girls have things going we can only imagine.

CsJuventus
04-18-15, 02:50
As far as you know, LOL. Most of these girls have things going we can only imagine.Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Marlowe. I had similar cases where I was led to believe that I was the only one, yet experience has taught me that once a girl becomes a "working girl", in a certain amount of time, less for some longer for others, they will start thinking about the money way more than what they have promised or arranged with you. Basically the truth is clear, and we should know it, we do pay for 1, 2 , 3 4 hours maybe the whole night, but after that they are going to look to make more money. That's a given and that is how they perceive the situation, since most of them realize that they won't be 20 forever. I made the mistake to catch feelings for one of the girls, just to find out that she was lying to me after a while (meaning maximum a month I was exclusive, maybe even less) and that she was indeed starting to see that she can make more money than what she's getting from me, while I'm not with her. She is now on BP etc, therefore, soon you have to be ready to accept that she will do it, if she's not doing it already. I've learned to realize that the word "honor" or sometimes even "respect" disappears from any woman's vocabulary, once they place the money on the top place of the podium.

I can only hope that HollywoodGuy is right, since in all honesty he seems like a person that offers respect, therefore he should also receive it.

Be safe and enjoy it while it lasts.

OneOfTheBest
04-18-15, 05:14
As far as you know, LOL. Most of these girls have things going we can only imagine.Agreed 100% Unless you're with these chicks 24/7 you really don't know the full "hold" you have on them. Marlowe don't kill the mans dream.

Can we come up with a new term for this type of sport? This is not sugar dating.

HollywoodGuy
04-18-15, 12:24
Agreed 100% Unless you're with these chicks 24/7 you really don't know the full "hold" you have on them. Marlowe don't kill the mans dream.

Can we come up with a new term for this type of sport? This is not sugar dating.I agree every situation is unique. But to say none of these girls is loyal would be an untrue statement. Having dated some for months and even years at a time I usually have a pretty good idea of what's up one way or the other. I don't live in a dream world. LOL.

Marlowe
04-18-15, 17:21
Unfortunately, I do have to agree with Marlowe. I had similar cases where I was led to believe that I was the only one, yet experience has taught me that once a girl becomes a "working girl", in a certain amount of time, less for some longer for others, they will start thinking about the money way more than what they have promised or arranged with you. Basically the truth is clear, and we should know it, we do pay for 1, 2 , 3 4 hours maybe the whole night, but after that they are going to look to make more money. That's a given and that is how they perceive the situation, since most of them realize that they won't be 20 forever. I made the mistake to catch feelings for one of the girls, just to find out that she was lying to me after a while (meaning maximum a month I was exclusive, maybe even less) and that she was indeed starting to see that she can make more money than what she's getting from me, while I'm not with her. She is now on BP etc, therefore, soon you have to be ready to accept that she will do it, if she's not doing it already. I've learned to realize that the word "honor" or sometimes even "respect" disappears from any woman's vocabulary, once they place the money on the top place of the podium.

I can only hope that HollywoodGuy is right, since in all honesty he seems like a person that offers respect, therefore he should also receive it.

Be safe and enjoy it while it lasts.I don't recall HG saying that he was exclusively seeing her. It works both ways. They have a term for that sort of relationship, its called monogamy, which isn't what most of us in this forum are about.

HollywoodGuy
04-18-15, 17:25
I don't recall HG saying that he was exclusively seeing her. It works both ways. They have a term for that sort of relationship, its called monogamy, which isn't what most of us in this forum are about.I do get exclusivity from some girls and they all know I have multiple girls. Take it or leave it. We all do the best we can. But this beats any other form of companionship I can think of.

Marlowe
04-18-15, 18:49
I do get exclusivity from some girls and they all know I have multiple girls. Take it or leave it. We all do the best we can. But this beats any other form of companionship I can think of.Agreed. You obviously have the means and the patience to do what you do. My preference is for street girls, so I can immediately see what I am paying for, and I just want the sex, no attachments. Everyone does what they want to do. The only impediment is LE and their stupid Human Trafficking farce.

HollywoodGuy
04-18-15, 20:30
Agreed. You obviously have the means and the patience to do what you do. My preference is for street girls, so I can immediately see what I am paying for, and I just want the sex, no attachments. Everyone does what they want to do. The only impediment is LE and their stupid Human Trafficking farce.If I wasnt such a wuss I would go for some street girls. LE scares me. And I don't like condoms. The thing is, the street girls on the SD sites are so easy to spot. And many will work for a $. And when they are on the SD sites many times they will not have as many rules either, hoping to get a better quality guy. I used to fuck them regularly a few years ago. As soon as they would give me their number I would google it and voila. There would be their escort ad. Except I was paying a $ an hour for bare service. Now I avoid those girls. And most of the real hotties will ask for $$. But for an hour of GFE its probably not out of line. But still no instant gratification like what you are doing.

Marlowe
04-18-15, 21:56
If I wasnt such a wuss I would go for some street girls. LE scares me. And I don't like condoms. The thing is, the street girls on the SD sites are so easy to spot. And many will work for a $. And when they are on the SD sites many times they will not have as many rules either, hoping to get a better quality guy. I used to fuck them regularly a few years ago. As soon as they would give me their number I would google it and voila. There would be their escort ad. Except I was paying a $ an hour for bare service. Now I avoid those girls. And most of the real hotties will ask for $$. But for an hour of GFE its probably not out of line. But still no instant gratification like what you are doing.I wouldn't consider you to be a wuss, just judicious. I am very careful, and pass up more opportunities than I take advantage of, but yes, the streets are a greater risk. I just can't afford $$ a shot at this time in my life.

HollywoodGuy
04-18-15, 22:22
I wouldn't consider you to be a wuss, just judicious. I am very careful, and pass up more opportunities than I take advantage of, but yes, the streets are a greater risk. I just can't afford $$ a shot at this time in my life.Me neither.

Member #5794
04-19-15, 11:17
Saw my barely legal little teen angel tonite, 5'5" and 105. In spite of many camera fumbles I still managed to get off a few shots. She definitely prefers back door action. Tonite it was about 50/50 front to back. A sweet little church girl that goes ass to mouth and back again. She wants daddy to be happy and very little more. Damage was $.And she is and HX level 5 with 2000 followers and 100 reviews in the LASER club.

HollywoodGuy
04-19-15, 12:18
And she is and HX level 5 with 2000 followers and 100 reviews in the LASER club.The last two days I saw a girl whose father is a minister. On the USA site 99% of all posts are for and about hardened working girls. About 1% are about girls that don't fall into that category. If you think that type of girl doesn't exist there is no convincing you that she does. Many are on the path to that ultimate destination. Some are not. Stereotypes exist for a reason, but there are always exceptions that don't fit the rule. If you look at the world with a madonna–wh**e complex you will miss the nuances that are available to partake in. It has taken me years to search out and identify these types. Many times I fail and settle for the best I can find at the moment. But this is not a dream world I have created to make myself feel better.

JahBless453
04-25-15, 16:45
Having a horrible time with sd4 me. I canceled my 3 day trial after my first day. Or at least I thought I did. I got charged for the month, and even though I had sent multiple emails to site support I have not been responded to or my charge has been reversed. Has anybody else experience this?

Rouleur
04-25-15, 19:31
Having a horrible time with sd4 me. I canceled my 3 day trial after my first day. Or at least I thought I did. I got charged for the month, and even though I had sent multiple emails to site support I have not been responded to or my charge has been reversed. Has anybody else experience this?I occasionally read about other people having their cards charged after having cancelled with Sd4 Me. I've joined twice, canceled both near the very end of the three day grace period, and have not had any charges inadvertently show up. Might be luck of the draw, or is there a chance that some intentionally obscure box isn't being checked off? Only guessing as, again, I've had no trouble with them. I hope you are successful in getting it cleared up. Please let us know either way if you have time.

HollywoodGuy
04-25-15, 19:41
Having a horrible time with sd4 me. I canceled my 3 day trial after my first day. Or at least I thought I did. I got charged for the month, and even though I had sent multiple emails to site support I have not been responded to or my charge has been reversed. Has anybody else experience this?A trial period will never get you pussy. I am always amazed that anyone cares about the monthly fee. You can not talk to anyone on the trial period. Since you got charged, why not go fuck some hot young wet needy pussy? For the cost of a CBJ from a SW you can now meet non pros that only want to pretend they are ho's for the right daddy. Step up dude. And then report back.

HollywoodGuy
04-25-15, 20:43
A trial period will never get you pussy. I am always amazed that anyone cares about the monthly fee. You can not talk to anyone on the trial period. Since you got charged, why not go fuck some hot young wet needy pussy? For the cost of a CBJ from a SW you can now meet non pros that only want to pretend they are ho's for the right daddy. Step up dude. And then report back.Well maybe for the cost of CFS. Still well worth it.

JahBless453
04-25-15, 21:26
A trial period will never get you pussy. I am always amazed that anyone cares about the monthly fee. You can not talk to anyone on the trial period. Since you got charged, why not go fuck some hot young wet needy pussy? For the cost of a CBJ from a SW you can now meet non pros that only want to pretend they are ho's for the right daddy. Step up dude. And then report back.I already have a nonpro who I can call up and have a good time with, for the price of the monthly fee. I just wanted to see what its about. That's what a trial period is supposed to be right?

JahBless453
04-25-15, 22:01
A trial period will never get you pussy. I am always amazed that anyone cares about the monthly fee. You can not talk to anyone on the trial period. Since you got charged, why not go fuck some hot young wet needy pussy? For the cost of a CBJ from a SW you can now meet non pros that only want to pretend they are ho's for the right daddy. Step up dude. And then report back.I already have a nonpro who I can call up and have a good time with, for the price of the monthly fee. I just wanted to see what its about. That's what a trial period is supposed to be right?

HollywoodGuy
04-26-15, 03:47
I already have a nonpro who I can call up and have a good time with, for the price of the monthly fee. I just wanted to see what its about. That's what a trial period is supposed to be right?You know how a free trial works on a dating site. They tease you in, then hold back a few main features hoping you will sign on. They are all the same.

HollywoodGuy
04-30-15, 01:35
This is some good pussy. Been hittin it regularly.

TW978
04-30-15, 11:35
This is some good pussy. Been hittin it regularly.Looking GOOD!

Jooop
05-01-15, 04:22
This is some good pussy. Been hittin it regularly.Damn that's good.

Socal22
05-24-15, 04:38
Saw my teen angel last night. She was looking hotter than usual in her sexy fishnets. There is something so adorable about a grateful teen, that just can't be beat by any other kind of girl. And guys. She is a first time SB. Not the kind of girl you can pass around.I don't think theres anything better than a tight little teen willing to suck and fuck for her allowance money. Awesome work!

Old School 62
05-25-15, 06:52
This girl has the finest pussy I've seen in a very long time. I see you were lucky enough to do her raw. Cum in pussy per chance? Makes me want to book a flight to California. What was the damage?


Saw my teen angel last night. She was looking hotter than usual in her sexy fishnets. There is something so adorable about a grateful teen, that just can't be beat by any other kind of girl. And guys. She is a first time SB. Not the kind of girl you can pass around.

Tipisil
05-25-15, 09:21
Saw my teen angel last night. She was looking hotter than usual in her sexy fishnets. There is something so adorable about a grateful teen, that just can't be beat by any other kind of girl. And guys. She is a first time SB. Not the kind of girl you can pass around.Setting the bar pretty high for everyone. Amazing body.

Diamondman
05-25-15, 12:13
Having a horrible time with sd4 me. I canceled my 3 day trial after my first day. Or at least I thought I did. I got charged for the month, and even though I had sent multiple emails to site support I have not been responded to or my charge has been reversed. Has anybody else experience this?Always use a pre-paid visa card with a set $50 amount. That's what I do with them, pay for the month and then when they try to renew it, it will decline, WE Win!

HollywoodGuy
05-25-15, 21:02
This girl has the finest pussy I've seen in a very long time. I see you were lucky enough to do her raw. Cum in pussy per chance? Makes me want to book a flight to California. What was the damage?I pay every girl the same. $ . And I cum anywhere I want with any girl I date. Pussy, ass or mouth. (well not in the ass for all of them, LOL). But I dont cum that easy, so a good ball sucking (both at once) whilst being jerked and prost massaged all at the same time is a good finish with any girl that has the hands and mouth co-ordination to do it right.

Her pussy is good but her ass is a 10.
Depending on her mood she can go 15 to 45 minutes of anal.

LatinXTony
05-26-15, 17:22
Saw my teen angel last night. She was looking hotter than usual in her sexy fishnets. There is something so adorable about a grateful teen, that just can't be beat by any other kind of girl. And guys. She is a first time SB. Not the kind of girl you can pass around.Props to your scores man, your skills are inspiring but as someone said below you set bar pretty high LOL.

Christophe1
05-27-15, 03:01
Props to your scores man, your skills are inspiring but as someone said below you set bar pretty high LOL.Job well done. You've found your niche and mastered it.

HollywoodGuy
05-27-15, 13:45
Job well done. You've found your niche and mastered it.As you have done as well. LOL. I guess we speak their respective languages so to speak. I was born and raised in motown. Ni hao ma piao liang nu pengyou? and wassup baby girl?

BigTigger
05-29-15, 13:56
I had been working on a SB from SA in San Diego because I knew I would be in town for a week. We texted, talked, Skyped for almost a month.

She was supposed to spend 3 nights in a row with me once I got to town. About a week and 1/2 out, she stopped communicating. I was so busy, I actually didn't notice.

Then two days before my trip, it hit me that she had flaked out.

So literally the day before I was supposed to leave, I hit up a number of POTS on SA.

My basic line was simple. "I'm in town for 3 nights starting tomorrow, I can't be your full time SD, but you will have fun, I'll cover all expenses and provide minimal spending money. If things go well, we could probably meet once every other month, read my profile and let's chat".

I did not expect it would work with the short notice. I was actually very surprised that ended up hitting on two real hotties.

First was a 35 year old beautiful single mom, divorced Latina, 5'5. Body was a 7, face a 9. 5.

Second was 30 years old, white, cute & nerdy, blonde, 5'2, a slim body and natural big boobs.

Had early dinner with one and late M&G with other when I got in the first night. Both dates ended with some serious kissing at the car and some good feeling each other up. That laid the groundwork for the 2nd dates.

Did the TiggaBounce overnight with the hot blonde on 2nd night. She was very much in to sports so the overnight date started at a local sports bar watching games and eating bar food.

Had a super spicy TiggaBounce with the Latina the 3rd night. She was awesome. Started with dinner at a very casual local restaurant. Walked over to a bakery for dessert, then to the room for the grand ending.

San Diego has impressed me. I may have to come back and visit. Reminded me of my St. Louis trip. Both young ladies would like to come visit once I get back to my area.

Like normal, the First meeting I gave small gifts and gas money, 2nd night more of a regular donation. No complaints by either.

I never did hear from the original sb and I had an old flame fly in for the weekend to top the trip off the right way.

BigTigg.

Tipisil
06-20-15, 23:36
Pic a - Sometimes I need a break... but she doesn't.

Pic b - There is nothing quite like the feel of a vibrating pussy.
She gets DP-ed and I get this warm fuzzy (and buzzy) feeling when I stick it in.

Pic c - I didnt post it because I couldn't get the right angle with a hand held camera.
But imagine "pic a" combined with her going down on me. Or any other combination of my dick and two dildos. Three holes in one. She is so sweet. I love my baby girl.

"Girls - they want to have fu-un. Oh girls just want to have fun"One word: Epic and maybe jealous.

HollywoodGuy
06-21-15, 11:47
One word: Epic and maybe jealous.This is why I like the young ones. They are far more adventurous. They want to try everything. I can't count how many Lelo Gigi's and Hitachi Magic Wands I have bought over the years. You give a girl one of those and they will never forget you. And I always have one of each at home. Because they always go for one or the other as they are radically different in their performance. I don't care how big of a stud you are, you can't compete with these toys and there is no reason to feel that you are. It just adds to the fun. Guaranteed.

I have always been a lights on and eyes open kind of guy. I never stop staring at them while I'm doin them. And make them look me in the eye as often as possible or tell them to "look pretty for Daddy". This creeps some girls out at first (even an experienced girl can get nervous), but I just explain and tell them how sexy and beautiful they are and that its what keeps me rock hard. As I mostly date NP's, (and many are the shy types) a lot of them do need reassurance that they really are, so very sexy. And every little girl wants to look pretty for their Daddy. They just need to know that when they are at their most vulnerable, they have nothing to fear. At that point you are likely to get the best sex of your life.

Tipisil
06-21-15, 19:28
This is why I like the young ones. They are far more adventurous. They want to try everything. I can't count how many Lelo Gigi's and Hitachi Magic Wands I have bought over the years. You give a girl one of those and they will never forget you. And I always have one of each at home. Because they always go for one or the other as they are radically different in their performance. I don't care how big of a stud you are, you can't compete with these toys and there is no reason to feel that you are. It just adds to the fun. Guaranteed.

I have always been a lights on and eyes open kind of guy. I never stop staring at them while I'm doin them. And make them look me in the eye as often as possible or tell them to "look pretty for Daddy". This creeps some girls out at first (even an experienced girl can get nervous), but I just explain and tell them how sexy and beautiful they are and that its what keeps me rock hard. As I mostly date NP's, (and many are the shy types) a lot of them do need reassurance that they really are, so very sexy. And every little girl wants to look pretty for their Daddy. They just need to know that when they are at their most vulnerable, they have nothing to fear. At that point you are likely to get the best sex of your life.Wise words. Hope to live up to your record some day.

HollywoodGuy
07-13-15, 18:54
Just sayin hi to everyone. Anyone have any good stories to tell?

Large Ess
07-30-15, 02:19
Haven't been on in a couple years. I still fuck one that I met through the site and now there is no donation ever. We just spent a weekend in Palm Springs with an amazing fuck fest. She is up for going to swing clubs, Strip clubs and more. What I notice when I went on the site tonight was that there were very few women who were signed up to receive messages and lots of prompting to get the up grade so that all the girls who aren't forking out the money can send and receive mail. I don't remember having to to that last time and I thought it would open me up to a lot of spam. Any advice on this would be appreciated.

HollywoodGuy
08-01-15, 22:44
Haven't been on in a couple years. I still fuck one that I met through the site and now there is no donation ever. We just spent a weekend in Palm Springs with an amazing fuck fest. She is up for going to swing clubs, Strip clubs and more. What I notice when I went on the site tonight was that there were very few women who were signed up to receive messages and lots of prompting to get the up grade so that all the girls who aren't forking out the money can send and receive mail. I don't remember having to to that last time and I thought it would open me up to a lot of spam. Any advice on this would be appreciated.Just sign up. I don't get any spam.

Jendabaze
08-07-15, 02:28
I'm new to the SD thing but not to the pay per play thing. I usually go to Tijuana about every 3 weeks I joined SA a month ago and met 10 girls which I had FC with 6 of them after meeting them for coffee and talking to them for an hour. The other 4, I was not interested in 2 of them after the meeting, they either were not my type or they did not look like their photos. The third thought that she was going to get paid for just going on a date with me and when I told her expect sex, she got offended. The fourth was a total Pro that wanted $600 for FC even though my profile states that I'm not looking for an escort type of a girl. My criteria is a girl who has a regular job but needs a little extra to make ends meet.

It started very slow for me, either I didn't get a response or they wanted at least $500 per meeting. I finally figured it out, when you send them a message don't offer them how much money you are going to give them! I started messaging them about meeting for coffee to see if we like each other before discussing any arrangement. And when I met them I dressed up and acted like I was on a regular date. I tried to make them comfortable with me and talk to them like you would talk to a regular girl on a date. I never mentioned money or how much they wanted. After an hour or so I asked them if they wanted to go to my place or somewhere that we can be alone and they all said yes. I usually spend about 3 hours with them and have sex twice in that period. After I'm done I put $200 in their bag, never handed them the money directly. I had one stayed with me the whole night and I left $250 in her bag. She happens to be an aerobics instructor at a gym with an amazing body.

The sex is incredible with all of them, I even did a stupid thing and did 3 of them without protection. CITM or face or tits or on the ass, 2 of them swallow. Everything except anal is available. Some promised anal in the future. . One of them is 18 years and 2 weeks old (I asked to see her I'd) and has to sneak out of her bedroom window while her parents are asleep. They all are texting me about the next meeting. I am meeting 2 new girls on Friday, 1 on Saturday and 1 on Sunday. Now I'm at a point where I can afford to be very picky. I also have to mention that I'm 52 in a good shape and look younger than my age. I dress up all the time and drive a nice car and live in a nice house in a good neighborhood.

My question is am I paying too much? And any advice would be appreciated.

RedMoney
08-07-15, 13:29
My question is am I paying too much? And any advice would be appreciated.You pay what you can afford to pay. You decide what is too much. Everyone on this board swears you should pay 100. If you have quality women and have the funds, then pay what you believe them to be worth. If you want to pay less just give them less, and if they get mad just let them know that's all you have on you at that moment or that's all you want to pay.

CreamyBare
08-07-15, 14:28
did a stupid thing and did 3 of them without protection.
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question is am I paying too much? And any advice would be appreciated.I do all of them without protection, and I let them know ahead of time that I am going to cum inside them.

200 a meeting seems fair to me, as that is what I pay most of mine (and have for a decade). I expect at least an hour or a few, and sex at least twice. For overnights I'll go up to 300 and dinner.

I'll go up to 300 one time only for a known pornstar, as long as it is BBFS.

For a half hour quicky, 100 to 120 max.

These rates are fair and reasonable IMO, though some guys will negotiate for less.

CreamyBare
08-07-15, 14:30
Just sign up. I don't get any spam.Sugar daddy for me didn't seem to cause much of a spam increase.

Joining Seeking arrangement caused a huge flood of spam.

I have my own mail server, so I used different accounts for each, so I know for a fact that SA sold my email to massive spammers. Asshats.

HollywoodGuy
08-07-15, 21:11
I'm new to the SD thing but not to the pay per play thing. I usually go to Tijuana about every 3 weeks I joined SA a month ago and met 10 girls which I had FC with 6 of them after meeting them for coffee and talking to them for an hour. The other 4, I was not interested in 2 of them after the meeting, they either were not my type or they did not look like their photos. The third thought that she was going to get paid for just going on a date with me and when I told her expect sex, she got offended. The fourth was a total Pro that wanted $600 for FC even though my profile states that I'm not looking for an escort type of a girl. My criteria is a girl who has a regular job but needs a little extra to make ends meet.

It started very slow for me, either I didn't get a response or they wanted at least $500 per meeting. I finally figured it out, when you send them a message don't offer them how much money you are going to give them! I started messaging them about meeting for coffee to see if we like each other before discussing any arrangement. And when I met them I dressed up and acted like I was on a regular date. I tried to make them comfortable with me and talk to them like you would talk to a regular girl on a date. I never mentioned money or how much they wanted. After an hour or so I asked them if they wanted to go to my place or somewhere that we can be alone and they all said yes. I usually spend about 3 hours with them and have sex twice in that period. After I'm done I put $200 in their bag, never handed them the money directly. I had one stayed with me the whole night and I left $250 in her bag. She happens to be an aerobics instructor at a gym with an amazing body.

The sex is incredible with all of them, I even did a stupid thing and did 3 of them without protection. CITM or face or tits or on the ass, 2 of them swallow. Everything except anal is available. Some promised anal in the future. . One of them is 18 years and 2 weeks old (I asked to see her I'd) and has to sneak out of her bedroom window while her parents are asleep. They all are texting me about the next meeting. I am meeting 2 new girls on Friday, 1 on Saturday and 1 on Sunday. Now I'm at a point where I can afford to be very picky. I also have to mention that I'm 52 in a good shape and look younger than my age. I dress up all the time and drive a nice car and live in a nice house in a good neighborhood.

My question is am I paying too much? And any advice would be appreciated.You are not paying too much. You did a smart thing and filled up your pipeline. But truthfully you can have any girl you want for $$. So if your budget allows, then no problem. My budget does not allow, so I only date $ girls. It takes more time, but there is really no shortage of girls.

Also if you see any girl regularly, the unexpected expenses start to roll in. So even my $ with a long term girl is going to creep up. If it creeps past $.5 I start to lose interest. But these are long term girls .. meaning I have banged them at least 50 times. A shorter term girl I will allow to creep up to $.3 meaning about 10 dates or so.

But I start them all at a $ as I know the expenses will creep in one way or another eventually. And you cant deny a girl like that. If you keep seeing those $$ girls it will start to creep to something higher than that at some point. But only you know your budget and ultimate end game. Keep up the good work. And post pics when you can, as they are very much appreciated.

A recent example is this virgin I posted about on the richmond SD thread. I went straight to $$ a date. Then the sex stopped completely as the girl began to absorb my multi-girl lifestyle (which I did not hide from her). But she is actually living with me, so its a totally different scenario. Anyway the sex and the sugar have both come to an end, but she is still staying here and staying out of my way when I have a date. So there are a myriad of possibilities.

HollywoodGuy
08-07-15, 21:13
Sugar daddy for me didn't seem to cause much of a spam increase.

Joining Seeking arrangement caused a huge flood of spam.

I have my own mail server, so I used different accounts for each, so I know for a fact that SA sold my email to massive spammers. Asshats.Its weird that I don't get any spam. None. And I have a dedicated account for both SA and SD4M, so it would be obvious to me if it was coming from them.

Jendabaze
08-11-15, 03:51
Has any one had any experience with the girls who on their profile have budget expectation of High, Substantial, Moderate and Practical?

How much did they accept? I only contacted the Negotiable and Minimal expectation girls.

HollywoodGuy
08-23-15, 13:33
Has any one had any experience with the girls who on their profile have budget expectation of High, Substantial, Moderate and Practical?

How much did they accept? I only contacted the Negotiable and Minimal expectation girls.I mostly disregard that part of their profile. But the ones that say "negotiable" are usually the best prospects.

HollywoodGuy
08-23-15, 13:56
1. An 18 year old virgin when I met her that I have had sex with almost 10 times that is living with me for the summer. She will be gone in a week.

2. My ATF the black barbie fucking machine. Fucked her for 2.5 hours last night.
(we daddy / daughter role play. It's hot.)

3. My "church girl". A freak on the DL.

4. My X the stripper. A 10 in looks and a 9 in bed.

5. My new pixie from the hood. 4'11" and 95 lbs. She identifies as "little".
(if you know what that means).

They are all AA. Thats all I really want because they are the best in bed IMHO.

Member #5794
08-23-15, 22:01
1. An 18 year old virgin when I met her that I have had sex with almost 10 times that is living with me for the summer. She will be gone in a week.

2. My ATF the black barbie fucking machine. Fucked her for 2.5 hours last night.
(we daddy / daughter role play. It's hot.)

3. My "church girl". A freak on the DL.

4. My X the stripper. A 10 in looks and a 9 in bed.

5. My new pixie from the hood. 4'11" and 95 lbs. She identifies as "little".
(if you know what that means).

They are all AA. Thats all I really want because they are the best in bed IMHO.Yeah, and so few of them are pros.

Member #5794
08-23-15, 22:05
I bet they target these sites.

HollywoodGuy
08-23-15, 23:04
Yeah, and so few of them are pros.Actually none of these girls are. The stripper shakes down guys at work but that's it. But after many years of doing this I got the real deal. You can believe it or not. Date a few hundred of them and you will find some gems/ A lot of work but well worth the reward.

Member #5794
08-24-15, 00:42
Actually none of these girls are. The stripper shakes down guys at work but that's it. But after many years of doing this I got the real deal. You can believe it or not. Date a few hundred of them and you will find some gems/ A lot of work but well worth the reward.Yeah, I meet my civilian girlfriends on pay sites. This way I know they are nonpros.