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FirstClass1
06-18-21, 02:23
I am just getting into the SB game because I want to be in full control and I wanted to be sure that sugar babies are fine to let you keep the money until after. I was under the impression that somehow johns were not in control, but obviously the SB scene is much different. Mostly because these girls are nonpros. And like most nonpros they want you to uber them to the meet and greet.Men in this game are Sugar Daddies, someone whom young beautiful girls enjoy being with, who can provide feelings of comfort and benefaction as well as opening up new experiences. Good looks and charm will improve your success rate.
If you're approaching sugar dating by referring to yourself as a john, or thinking like a cheap trick, your success rate with beautiful fresh non pros will be marginal. To be sure, there are also UTR pros and outright prostitutes on sugar sites looking for johns and tricks, and these may put out, or just as likely rip you off. Check out the Richmond forum to learn every step of the game.
In my many years, the vast majority of girls have ubered themselves or driven to our first dates, particularly as they're looking out for their own safety in a first encounter. Never send money for an Uber / gas / oil change / etc, as those asking for such money are scammers.
FirstClass1
06-18-21, 02:29
This last year I've seen a girl's advertising their SC on tinder. Once you start following them on SC you see them posting how you have to send them a deposit first before meeting. They will then post messages from men who did it, met them, and will do so again. I'd never give a "deposit" but find it interesting how that try this tactic.That's a scammer. They've pervaded all sugar sites and dating apps. No one who sends a deposit will get a drop of pussy juice on their dick.
A lot of these wh0 res place their SC and Insta details on Tinder or other platforms to build clout and / or rip off, never to meet anyone.
FirstClass1
06-18-21, 02:42
Any intel on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/aac4399b-917b-4812-9cd1-f6c706b1a9ed
Addendum: I don't really like working with pros from SA, im looking more for the civi GND types. Im curious though in terms of pros/ pros from SA, what is the batting average on BB? With civi girls ive honestly been able to just go for it and they never say anything but with pros I feel like they will insist on a rubber. And I don't want to discuss it before hand with a pro because then either its just "no", which is fine, but if its "yes" then theyll just use that as leverage to ask for even more $. Im assuming though I should pretty much assume pros will want rubbers by 90% of the timeI've not interacted with this one, but she looks like a pro. Non pros on SA are just as open to bare as any other civilian, and don't demand a mark-up the way a pro would. I prefer civilian SBs, as they are far more reliable and eager to please.
I do discuss BB before meeting, first moving the conversation offsite, and after getting a feel of the chemistry. I won't waste time and money getting to meet someone only to be told "strictly condoms. " Only high mileage girls would even think to require this.
Avoid this. Has multiple profiles that had different location and time waster. No sign of scam but would tell you willing to meet up then ghost 30 minutes prior to meeting. Gave 2 chances. Got ready for nothing.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c382e5c3-f7d4-4ed0-8196-4eb36fd30581
Haven't met this chick but based on her messages to me and her constantly updating her available date on her profile, seems like a pro if anyone wants to test her out. https://www.seeking.com/member/0119e853-fcff-4ad2-a012-fbe560d38394.
ShowMeHow23
06-18-21, 12:40
Several weeks, more like months where all I've gotten lately are scammers or GPS girls. The minute you share photos, they've already deleted their profiles or they've responded, and then they've disappeared. I keep my standards pretty high on there for who I look for, so it narrows down my selection, but definitely have had a dry spell on SA. The other site, SB has been all strikes. Girl messages and then you respond, wasting your damn 10 points and then they go MIA but then they share their "secret" album? F off.
I'm lucky enough to have a few SB's that I've kept from SA that I rotate through, but still, variety is the spice to life, and I haven't had much luck lately.
TheHuntsman
06-18-21, 22:57
Several weeks, more like months where all I've gotten lately are scammers or GPS girls. The minute you share photos, they've already deleted their profiles or they've responded, and then they've disappeared. I keep my standards pretty high on there for who I look for, so it narrows down my selection, but definitely have had a dry spell on SA. The other site, SB has been all strikes. Girl messages and then you respond, wasting your damn 10 points and then they go MIA but then they share their "secret" album? F off.
I'm lucky enough to have a few SB's that I've kept from SA that I rotate through, but still, variety is the spice to life, and I haven't had much luck lately.The point system on SB is simply awful. I've talked to a few girls but the way they lag in communication is awful. I had spoken to this one girl and she vanished for a few weeks. Randomly sends me a picture last week. I said I had pretty much given up on us getting together. She replied ok take care I mean WTF?
One of my favorite interactions on SDM was this one girl that contacted me but she was too far. So she said how about online. I said I'm not interested in online soon she asks if I'm occurred in phone sex or possibly sending her money so she can go eat.
Several weeks, more like months where all I've gotten lately are scammers or GPS girls. The minute you share photos, they've already deleted their profiles or they've responded, and then they've disappeared. I keep my standards pretty high on there for who I look for, so it narrows down my selection, but definitely have had a dry spell on SA. The other site, SB has been all strikes. Girl messages and then you respond, wasting your damn 10 points and then they go MIA but then they share their "secret" album? F off.
I'm lucky enough to have a few SB's that I've kept from SA that I rotate through, but still, variety is the spice to life, and I haven't had much luck lately.Haven't had much luck either the last few weeks. I had 2 m&g but nothing materialized. Today, I thought I found someone but luckily, I clarified my expectations. This btch thought she was getting full allowance just to have dinner. GTFO here. There was also another one who wanted platonic dinner but bring a male friend for safety. Blocked! I ain't feeding someone's bum bf or pimp. Met some utr pro but that was it.
ShowMeHow23
06-19-21, 00:36
Haven't had much luck either the last few weeks. I had 2 m&g but nothing materialized. Today, I thought I found someone but luckily, I clarified my expectations. This btch thought she was getting full allowance just to have dinner. GTFO here. There was also another one who wanted platonic dinner but bring a male friend for safety. Blocked! I ain't feeding someone's bum bf or pimp. Met some utr pro but that was it.I thought I had luck finding a new SB a couple of weeks ago, but she only allowed 1 pop and that isn't going to cut it for me. As cute as she was, had to let that pass.
TheHuntsman
06-19-21, 01:18
Haven't had much luck either the last few weeks. I had 2 m&g but nothing materialized. Today, I thought I found someone but luckily, I clarified my expectations. This btch thought she was getting full allowance just to have dinner. GTFO here. There was also another one who wanted platonic dinner but bring a male friend for safety. Blocked! I ain't feeding someone's bum bf or pimp. Met some utr pro but that was it.Sorry bro but I have to one up you. This girl on SB actually suggested bringing her male friend over and I could watch them have sex. I said what is in it for me? She said oh you can jack off and cum on me. I turned that down and then she blocked me immediately afterwards. I pray that no one out there is taking her up on that offer.
ShowMeHow23
06-19-21, 13:00
Sorry bro but I have to one up you. This girl on SB actually suggested bringing her male friend over and I could watch them have sex. I said what is in it for me? She said oh you can jack off and cum on me. I turned that down and then she blocked me immediately afterwards. I pray that no one out there is taking her up on that offer.She should have at least offered a TV frame that you can sit in front of as well to make it more voyeuristic.
SunMoonStars11
06-19-21, 16:28
Several weeks, more like months where all I've gotten lately are scammers or GPS girls. The minute you share photos, they've already deleted their profiles or they've responded, and then they've disappeared. I keep my standards pretty high on there for who I look for, so it narrows down my selection, but definitely have had a dry spell on SA. The other site, SB has been all strikes. Girl messages and then you respond, wasting your damn 10 points and then they go MIA but then they share their "secret" album? F off.
I'm lucky enough to have a few SB's that I've kept from SA that I rotate through, but still, variety is the spice to life, and I haven't had much luck lately.SA definitely requires a lot of patience. All I can say is keep your standards, stay at it and be patient. I've definitely had dry spells (and scammer spells) but you'll find someone eventually.
FirstClass1
06-20-21, 00:03
Sorry bro but I have to one up you. This girl on SB actually suggested bringing her male friend over and I could watch them have sex. I said what is in it for me? She said oh you can jack off and cum on me. I turned that down and then she blocked me immediately afterwards. I pray that no one out there is taking her up on that offer.Girls that expect paid introductions, sell pictures, want their pimps to accompany them, limit you to one pop, or expect you to pay while some worthless bum pumps them in front of you, all need to GTFO of sugaring sites. When I come across such a profile, I simply report them and move on.
More egregious hookers do get perma-banned once multiple reports come in.
Scammers, pros and time wasters are endemic in all major cities, but you can still find amazing girls on SA, you just need to be persistent and not compromise your standards.
What's ya'lls opinions on this. Stay away? I think I'm thinking with my small head and not my big head here. She's so hot but has a daughter at 21. As a guy who doesn't wrap it up this is concerning to me. Also she lives like an hour+ away anyway so idk why I'm even asking but do yall think I should just move on?
What's ya'lls opinions on this. Stay away? I think I'm thinking with my small head and not my big head here. She's so hot but has a daughter at 21. As a guy who doesn't wrap it up this is concerning to me. Also she lives like an hour+ away anyway so idk why I'm even asking but do yall think I should just move on?Definitely not marriage material. DO NOT even think about marrying this girl.
Oh! You're talking about getting laid? Who cares then? Is she hot? Is she available? Are you a grown man?
TheHuntsman
06-20-21, 15:55
What's ya'lls opinions on this. Stay away? I think I'm thinking with my small head and not my big head here. She's so hot but has a daughter at 21. As a guy who doesn't wrap it up this is concerning to me. Also she lives like an hour+ away anyway so idk why I'm even asking but do yall think I should just move on?If you don't want kids or to date someone with kids then move on. If you just want sex and don't mind if she has kids then go see her. Just remember if she has a kid then the chances are high that if she gets prego that she will keep them baby.
FirstClass1
06-20-21, 16:43
Definitely not marriage material. DO NOT even think about marrying this girl.
Oh! You're talking about getting laid? Who cares then? Is she hot? Is she available? Are you a grown man?A valid concern is going bare on a chick stupid enough to not use birth control, who doesn't think to take plan B in three whole days after getting filled with a sperm load, and obviously brought some kid to term. She may be even going after the baby daddy for child support.
If you really want to go bare with her, always bring plan B to the FC, and make sure you see her swallow the pill in front of you. Don't give her money to buy the pill herself, she'll just pocket the $50.
TheHuntsman
06-21-21, 19:22
Here are two more funny screenshots from girls on SDM. I had previously mentioned one of them but still wanted to share. The one girl was funny when she asked for $200/ wk before meeting. When I said not till we meet she asked could I give her $30/ day. Hmmm 30*7=210 LOL.
What's ya'lls opinions on this. Stay away? I think I'm thinking with my small head and not my big head here. She's so hot but has a daughter at 21. As a guy who doesn't wrap it up this is concerning to me. Also she lives like an hour+ away anyway so idk why I'm even asking but do yall think I should just move on?I had a Russian-American roommate (I will call him Vladimir) who would drink a lot of Vodka, bang chicks all night (not in the apartment but I knew he was doing that), and act like a model citizen during the day. He even had a girlfriend but I rarely saw her; he was either cheating on her or had an open-relationship. I was a good boy who didn't know anything about getting laid at that time; I was a college student and broke. Now that I look back, Vladimir is genuinely a model citizen- he was minding his own business and making good money; he was banging girls, (probably) cheating with his gf, and drinking vodka at night with his own money.
This upstanding gentleman one night returned very late and intentionally woke me up. That is unusual; he always tried to be very careful about not waking me up. Sometimes I would be awake watching YouTube or texting when he returned after his nightly affairs; I could hear him opening the door very slowly and walking silently. Good roommate. That night of waking me up, Vladimir started telling me that he has fallen in love with a Chinese girl (provider) and he kissed her. He has met her multiple times (that is, she is no longer a one night stand material). Then he calls his gf and spews all the truth. His gf was mad. She was speaking so loudly that I could hear their conversation. I don't remember the entire conversation; one thing I remember is Vladimir was explaining to her gf that the girl (provider) only kissed him on the chick; they didn't French kiss. He was so drunk that the next morning he could barely remember anything about our communion. I came to know later that the Chinese provider could barely speak any English. They we communicating using some App.
Unavoidably he had to break up with his gf. Interestingly, some of my friends also knew about his love for a provider. He probably spilled the beans in his drunken state to a lot of people by texting. He just wasn't the type of person who would speak his heart out with a "friend"; love + alcohol did the magic. Of course he never got to convert his one-sided love for a provider to a relationship.
The point is: Vladimir is the most pro monger I have ever seen. I started mongering couple of years after I amicably separated with him as a roommate. He is my idol. But even he made a big mistake. One-sided love with a provider will fuck any monger up.
In the quoted story, a "girl" has a 21 why / o girl? That's an adult woman; she isn't a "girl". Keep us updated with this love story.
Alkalinedio
06-22-21, 11:44
These leeches are unreal, quite amusing though. I block them when I get those on SA. So tempted to talk shit but I don't want to get banned, so they get a pass.
AD.
Here are two more funny screenshots from girls on SDM. I had previously mentioned one of them but still wanted to share. The one girl was funny when she asked for $200/ wk before meeting. When I said not till we meet she asked could I give her $30/ day. Hmmm 30*7=210 LOL.
Gentlemen, a moment of silence for all the scammers that are going to have to come up with another excuse for doing "online only" and "no meetups" that isn't COVID. Its going to be hard for them to use their remaining 2 braincells to figure out a new scam.
Gentlemen, a moment of silence for all the scammers that are going to have to come up with another excuse for doing "online only" and "no meetups" that isn't COVID. Its going to be hard for them to use their remaining 2 braincells to figure out a new scam.They are just going to keep pushing the same bullshit tactics that they use on dating apps, that you have to venmo some cash or sign up at X.com and buy a memebership to prove YOU aren't the scammer. You would think nobody would be lame enough to fall for it, but a sucker is born every day.
HollywoodGuy
06-24-21, 01:45
Anyone ever use a privacy.com credit card to pay for a seeking membership?
https://www.seeking.com/member/a42f5eec-a7e1-49eb-a5bd-aeea2557affa
OcasianBoy
06-25-21, 21:28
https://www.seeking.com/member/a42f5eec-a7e1-49eb-a5bd-aeea2557affaMiddle eastern and Asians have the worst gps. LOL.
AsianPussy
06-25-21, 22:26
Middle eastern and Asians have the worst gps. LOL.But she has her own business! LOL.
JWalker350
06-26-21, 17:01
What's ya'lls opinions on this. Stay away? I think I'm thinking with my small head and not my big head here. She's so hot but has a daughter at 21. As a guy who doesn't wrap it up this is concerning to me. Also she lives like an hour+ away anyway so idk why I'm even asking but do yall think I should just move on?IMOO, Move on. Why? Too far away, have kid at young age, too many fish out there.
NutritionFacts
07-01-21, 15:51
I've' heard rumors that some only fans girls do "private meetups"? Anyone know if there is legit OF meetups? There is a site to find local OFs near a certain location. Maybe it could work?
Anyone been getting messages from girls lately setting up a time only to get ghosted within 1 hr of confirming? I never ran into this until recently happening multiple times. Is this common or I've just been lucky not running into this situation until now? Normally, it's scammer asking for money transfer to their cashapp, Venmo, etc.
Anyone been getting messages from girls lately setting up a time only to get ghosted within 1 hr of confirming? I never ran into this until recently happening multiple times. Is this common or I've just been lucky not running into this situation until now? Normally, it's scammer asking for money transfer to their cashapp, Venmo, etc.Happens all the time. Both in the sugar bowl and civi life. Women are flaky (if they arent invested in you at all and you're just some random stranger online).
This is why you should never honor dates with women you've met on a random website. For example, I will schedule 3 M&G's at literally the same time under the assumption that probably all 3 of them could fall through anyway. Now, after we've met, the flakery stops, but this is just talking about the M&G. However, you may find different levels of flakery depending on how much $$ you're offering. I offer a very average sum so I likely get more flakes.
ShowMeHow23
07-02-21, 11:44
May have finally found a good one on SB and not SA. SB has never worked for me, but somehow she texted me and we met up that night after I had already seen one of my old sb's earlier that evening. Boy was I glad I waited late at the hotel to see her. 20 yr old spinner with both nips pierced and a tight tight 20 yr old body with the ability to release wherever I wanted. She wasn't $ compared to some others on here, but I'm okay with that. I'm not breaking the bank like having a P.S. Or escort either, so absolutely happy camper.
HollywoodGuy
07-02-21, 13:43
I will schedule 3 M&G's at literally the same time under the assumption that probably all 3 of them could fall through anyway. Always good to have back-up.
FirstClass1
07-02-21, 17:57
Anyone been getting messages from girls lately setting up a time only to get ghosted within 1 hr of confirming? I never ran into this until recently happening multiple times. Is this common or I've just been lucky not running into this situation until now? Normally, it's scammer asking for money transfer to their cashapp, Venmo, etc.If she's flaking on you, you haven't fully convinced her that you're worth meeting. All girls will be flaky when they're uncertain of your character, intentions, or the benefit to them in meeting you.
I like to do a phone or video call beforehand. Most women are reassured by a friendly and attractive voice / face, and are far less likely to flake once chemistry has been determined.
If she still flakes on you after a call or after having met you, it is because she is also overbooking dates, and is opting for her preferred prospect.
FirstClass1
07-02-21, 18:02
I've' heard rumors that some only fans girls do "private meetups"? Anyone know if there is legit OF meetups? There is a site to find local OFs near a certain location. Maybe it could work?I don't use OF, but my understanding is that you can DM the girls there. If that is the case, it would work much the same as messaging on any social media platform: Twitter, Insta, etc. Depending on your game and looks, you may persuade the girl to meet you.
I've fucked gorgeous girls on Insta and Twitter after simply sending a DM.
Alkalinedio
07-02-21, 19:25
For me the flaking seems to have picked up now that schools are out, I had some SB's go back home from college, some are on trips in Tahoe, and the list goes on. Just in my opinion, the flaking, or harder to lock in quick meets has increased due to colleges being done for now & a few other girls taking trips with their families. I'm seeing it but making plans with as many as I can but it's a little drier than say 6 weeks ago for me at least. All good it was pouring rain for a bit, so I'll just keep on rolling and go with the ebb and flow for now.
Have a safe one!
AD.
Anyone been getting messages from girls lately setting up a time only to get ghosted within 1 hr of confirming? I never ran into this until recently happening multiple times. Is this common or I've just been lucky not running into this situation until now? Normally, it's scammer asking for money transfer to their cashapp, Venmo, etc.
Barebacking
07-03-21, 13:58
How much are you guys paying? I've never done a SB type of arrangement so I was wondering what the ballrate is.
How much are you guys paying? I've never done a SB type of arrangement so I was wondering what the ballrate is.I've gotten away with 4 Benjamins w / pretty girls (at least an 8) but do know it took weeks to find a taker. Most seem to be running the 5 to 6 Benji range nowadays if you want an 8 in the looks dept. I haven't gotten lucky as I'm not willing to go those rates. If you want those profiles, I think I still have their messages on my acct. Just pm me if interested. Never met them tho but they told me directly their ppm rate so chances are they're real.
ShowMeHow23
07-03-21, 23:36
I've gotten away with 4 Benjamins w / pretty girls (at least an 8) but do know it took weeks to find a taker. Most seem to be running the 5 to 6 Benji range nowadays if you want an 8 in the looks dept. I haven't gotten lucky as I'm not willing to go those rates. If you want those profiles, I think I still have their messages on my acct. Just pm me if interested. Never met them tho but they told me directly their ppm rate so chances are they're real.4 bennies has been the sweet spot for me. I've never been able to pull off 2 or less. I had one at 3, but that was short lived as she decided to not do it anymore. I have a 5, 6, 7, and 8 that I can see if I chose to as well, but the new 4 has been golden.
TheHuntsman
07-04-21, 00:01
How much are you guys paying? I've never done a SB type of arrangement so I was wondering what the ballrate is.From around before last September I had never done more than 2 to 2. 5, but since then it's been around 3. Was seeing a nice UCR student a few months ago for 2. Great time with her. A girl I'm talking to right now wants 4. 5. Ideally I'd like to keep it at 300 or below.
FarFarAway
07-04-21, 00:57
I've gotten away with 4 Benjamins w / pretty girls (at least an 8) but do know it took weeks to find a taker. Most seem to be running the 5 to 6 Benji range nowadays if you want an 8 in the looks dept. I haven't gotten lucky as I'm not willing to go those rates. If you want those profiles, I think I still have their messages on my acct. Just pm me if interested. Never met them tho but they told me directly their ppm rate so chances are they're real.IK I am a broken record, but if you're negotiating that price electronically instead of face to face, you're getting her 'escort' pricing. You could be an actual creep. Have some game, do a M&G, she might even like you / be attracted to you, and you'll get a better rate. I have had the hottest girls you can imagine, and the most I have ever paid (once) was 600, that was super special. Otherwise, 4 is my limit, I have a great steady SB at 1000/ mo for 3-4 FC meets, but sadly she is moving away. IK, 'that's what they all say,' but in her case it is true.
LooknFobbfscip
07-04-21, 01:32
FirstClass1, when do you free up mailbox space? How often do you free up mailbox space? You replied to 1 of my direct messages and I cannot respond back.
IK I am a broken record, but if you're negotiating that price electronically instead of face to face, you're getting her 'escort' pricing. You could be an actual creep. Have some game, do a M&G, she might even like you / be attracted to you, and you'll get a better rate. I have had the hottest girls you can imagine, and the most I have ever paid (once) was 600, that was super special. Otherwise, 4 is my limit, I have a great steady SB at 1000/ mo for 3-4 FC meets, but sadly she is moving away. IK, 'that's what they all say,' but in her case it is true.Thanks for the insult. Appreciate it. The messages I got with ppm rates are girls directly asking me what I can offer. I am a young looking guy who looks early 20 and so I don't blame them for asking or even someone asking me if I'm using a decade old picture of me. I did a screenshot of ppm msg but for some reason, it keeps giving me an error.
FarFarAway
07-04-21, 14:38
Thanks for the insult. Appreciate it. The messages I got with ppm rates are girls directly asking me what I can offer. I am a young looking guy who looks early 20 and so I don't blame them for asking or even someone asking me if I'm using a decade old picture of me. I did a screenshot of ppm msg but for some reason, it keeps giving me an error.Seriously. I am talking from the girl's perspective. With a lack of complete knowledge of you, you might be. Have you ever thought a girl was hot online and from messaging, and then met up w / her and were like 'OMG, let me out of here'? That is my point. She's pricing you for her worst case scenario, that she doesn't like you much but wants the $.
LooknFobbfscip
07-05-21, 13:07
When using SeekingArrangements, approximately how many women do you meet do not require a condom at any time? Whether the time is the first or not the first. Examples are 100%, 30%, 8/10,3/10, etc.
NutritionFacts
07-05-21, 14:10
I don't use OF, but my understanding is that you can DM the girls there. If that is the case, it would work much the same as messaging on any social media platform: Twitter, Insta, etc. Depending on your game and looks, you may persuade the girl to meet you.
I've fucked gorgeous girls on Insta and Twitter after simply sending a DM.How do you open with DMs on twitter / ig for freestyle sugaring?
When using SeekingArrangements, approximately how many women do you meet do not require a condom at any time? Whether the time is the first or not the first. Examples are 100%, 30%, 8/10,3/10, etc.Recent STD check will always be required from experience but there's always the 1%. At farfaraway. Like I said. Thank you. Not sure why you're assuming I'm negotiating 100% of the time on messages on SA but I certainly don't. There are girls I copy / paste msg though if they got nothing on their profile for me to talk about. 99% of the time, if they got nothing on their profile, they get a copy / paste response from me. Especially the ones with profiles that says be straight to the point or don't waste my time on their about me section. Those definitely respond with their ppm rate.
HollywoodGuy
07-06-21, 01:53
When using SeekingArrangements, approximately how many women do you meet do not require a condom at any time? Whether the time is the first or not the first. Examples are 100%, 30%, 8/10,3/10, etc.50% or more do not require condom.
HollywoodGuy
07-06-21, 01:58
How much are you guys paying? I've never done a SB type of arrangement so I was wondering what the ballrate is.Depends on age, race, their experience level, your game level, their current level of desperation, etc. How much time and energy you are willing to invest? I am a low baller yet consistently get good pussy, mostly AA (black barbie, pretty face, perfect body) as that is my preference, but have done all races.
SunMoonStars11
07-06-21, 14:59
https://www.seeking.com/member/c063f377-7bc2-4eba-9a0a-47c5144b44f3
She is a scammer. Trust me, I know from personal experience. Unfortunately.
HollywoodGuy
07-06-21, 18:45
https://www.seeking.com/member/c063f377-7bc2-4eba-9a0a-47c5144b44f3
She is a scammer. Trust me, I know from personal experience. Unfortunately.Excessively long profiles are usually (and generally speaking) a red flag.
LooknFobbfscip
07-06-21, 19:20
Is M&G meet & greet? If it is not, what is it?
What is FC?
Is SB snapback? If it is not, what is it?
Has anybody met a gal by using SeekingArrangements by sending money to her before meeting her?
Is M&G meet & greet? If it is not, what is it?
What is FC?
Is SB snapback? If it is not, what is it?
Has anybody met a gal by using SeekingArrangements by sending money to her before meeting her?Sup everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster. Thought I start contributing.
MG = meet and greet, FC = Fuck chamber, SB = sugar baby.
For your last question, probably yea. But the chances are also real slim because its prob a scam. You'll learn to almost NEVER send any sort of payment or deposit before meeting. In my experiences, only true SBs will accept payments AFTER the meet / session. The ones that don't are either lookin to scam / rob you, or are pros. Everytime I've paid beforehand I've either been scammed or robbed of services in my experiences (which isn't much tbh).
Things I've learned and red flags as well.
Super photoshopped or doesn't seem legitimate pics = sketch.
No social media = sketch.
Asking for deposits or payments before meeting no matter what excuse they give = sketch.
They shoot you their number quick to also take conversations offline = they've done this before and aren't new to the game.
They offer a crazy menu right off the bat and promise you the world = sketch. This is where I get in trouble the most.
You meet them at a motel / hotel = sketch or a pro.
Longer their bio, higher chance of having GPS (golden pussy syndrome).
For example:
Nataliababyxo (blocked her so no link, location states LA, but really in riverside off tyler / magnolia at a motel).
So I just send everyone pretty much the same basic generic message. Might throw in a twist here or there depending on profile.
Her response: Hey baby you seemed to grab my attention if interested in meeting with me text me at at 657-XXX-4427 xoxo.
Hit her up, ask her ppm, she says 500 for 3 hours full service. And this is where I ask if they're open to other things like BBFS, swallow, CIP, CIA, knowing that either most or all will be denied. If so then ill offer a lower ppm. She said she'd do it all, on birth control, yada yada, so nothing for me to counter. I was all excited thinking "no way did I hit jackpot?" but like they say if its too good to be true it prob is. So my horny dumbass sets up the appt, drives my ass an hour out to riverside to some shady ass motel. I scope out the place first because I'm a paranoid ass, and spidey senses were tingling. Some sketchy people around since the place is already kinda shady, but no activity near the room number she finally gave so said fuck it. Went to her room and the fun begins.
Opened the door in lingerie. Didn't quite look like her pics, but still workable, just like 20 pounds heavier. Fuck it I thought, her face is kinda cute, and not like she's fat, just thick. I could work with this, esp with that menu. She asks and I give her the cash before anything begins or clarifying anything in person because I'm blinded by the menu I thought I was going to get and thought I had already made things clear with her over text. I get on the bed, and she asks if I want to turn over for the massage. I'm like nah I'm good, ill just skip straight to the fun. She gives a bs surprised stare saying she don't do that and only offer massages. I'm like I literally just talked to you earlier, we even snapchat vid called last night for face verification, was it not you I was texting? Etc. She says theres other people / her booker on the number, she doesn't set shit up, and more bs. She says hold on and begins "texting her boy / booker" she gets a call and supposedly talks him down on his crazy ass coming to the room and fucking me up or something. "No don't do that, don't do that to him, don't do anything crazy, if any shit happens the room is in my name" etc. I'm not a big dude at all, but by this point I was so pissed and annoyed on having my time wasted and being scammed again (I've got other stories, and its always getting suckered into some bs menu), I wasn't budging on not having my donation back. Not this time damn it! I just felt if this fucker shows then ill decide then if I want to square up if he's unarmed or just take the L if he is. If I take the L then I'm coming back with a brick through the window later. * can have it charged to her card lmao. I go to the area where I saw her put the donation, tho I don't know where, and she gets between me. Told her I'm leaving with at least some of it (if she gave it all back right then and there I prob would have given her 100), but shit drags on saying she can't do that she'll get in trouble, blah blah blah. I tell her I'm sorry for what her boy / booker set her up, but that's something for her to deal with her boy for putting her in that situation. Either she's honoring the menu that was given, or I'm taking at least half the donation back. She gets on her phone again and does the same trick in trying to scare me into leaving with her fake conversations. Think she was bluffing tho because I never heard a noise on the line, just her talking. This happens a couple times but I'm still standing there waiting for my shit back or someone to come in.
I try sweet talking her into anything past a massage but its still no. Felt her up a little bit mainly trying to move her aside so I can find / grab my cash but she ain't about it. Finally she gives in on giving half the donation back with no services, not even a massage, because she could tell I wasn't getting scared or going to leave empty handed I think. She pulls the cash out from where she hid it and started counting out half. I just snatched that shit right out of her hands, had already put my socks and sandals on, and bounced TF out. Didn't see no booker or whoever outside but wasn't waiting around to find out. Got in my car and left. I got real lucky this time on actually leaving with my full donation. Either case, it was my fault for thinking with my dick on some PSE type menu at a crazy rate.
Point of the story when it comes to SA: never pay for shit before meeting unless you trust her like that. Don't let your dick take over and ignore the red flags if somethings off. Just like how there's an average rate on agencies or HX, there is also one on SA. If you get anything below those rates, you either got lucky (which has happened to me before but never Hollywoodguy lucky at 100, only like 200-250) or have to meet in person first before trying to set shit up (something I've never done. I always just try to set shit up because I'm not really tryna go through the whole M&G).
Happy hunting out there and stay safe.
FirstClass1
07-07-21, 12:29
FirstClass1, when do you free up mailbox space? How often do you free up mailbox space? You replied to 1 of my direct messages and I cannot respond back.I've made more room in my inbox. DM away.
FirstClass1
07-07-21, 12:37
How do you open with DMs on twitter / ig for freestyle sugaring?Exactly the same as any first approach on SA or elsewhere. Remark on their profile, photos and activities to demonstrate interest, convey charm and personality, and propose a meet.
FirstClass1
07-07-21, 12:39
https://www.seeking.com/member/c063f377-7bc2-4eba-9a0a-47c5144b44f3
She is a scammer. Trust me, I know from personal experience. Unfortunately.I recommend taking screenshots and posting them here. Scammer accounts don't last long, and will create new accounts as soon as they get taken down. If you see the crook pop up again, re-share her info.
SunMoonStars11
07-07-21, 12:40
Sup everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster. Thought I start contributing.
MG = meet and greet, FC = Fuck chamber, SB = sugar baby.
For your last question, probably yea. But the chances are also real slim because its prob a scam. You'll learn to almost NEVER send any sort of payment or deposit before meeting. In my experiences, only true SBs will accept payments AFTER the meet / session. The ones that don't are either lookin to scam / rob you, or are pros. Everytime I've paid beforehand I've either been scammed or robbed of services in my experiences (which isn't much tbh).
Things I've learned and red flags as well.
Super photoshopped or doesn't seem legitimate pics = sketch.
No social media = sketch.
Asking for deposits or payments before meeting no matter what excuse they give = sketch.
They shoot you their number quick to also take conversations offline = they've done this before and aren't new to the game.
They offer a crazy menu right off the bat and promise you the world = sketch. This is where I get in trouble the most.
You meet them at a motel / hotel = sketch or a pro.
Longer their bio, higher chance of having GPS (golden pussy syndrome).
For example:
Nataliababyxo (blocked her so no link, location states LA, but really in riverside off tyler / magnolia at a motel)..Unfortunately it worked on me smh. That being said. I agree with everything in this post. I've come to the same conclusions myself. Always trust your gut no matter what.
FirstClass1
07-07-21, 13:16
Sup everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster. Thought I start contributing.Thanks for your contribution, and for sharing your story. While some cretins will try to drag you for what you've shared, I think it's more helpful to see where you can prevent such a scenario from reoccurring.
I strongly recommend any newcomers to the Sugar Bowl to visit the Richmond, Virginia forum's sugaring threads. Contributors from around the country have shared exhaustive, step by step advice on how to have successful sugar dates, as well as how to prevent various unpleasant situations. Knowing this is essential to preventing the countless rob and scam scenarios that are found on all dating platforms today.
Mongering habits don't fully translate into sugaring. When mongering scenarios happen within a sugar context, know that you're dealing with a pro, very likely a rob.
Sugar babies don't have menus, only hardened prostitutes set all sorts of rules. A non pro will have her preferences, and will accommodate you if she's into you.
As you mentioned, never give any money before the action: tricks do this, but not SDs. There's absolutely no reason to send money electronically before a date. Turning down a cash allowance is an obvious red flag.
Trust your instincts: anyone proposing a first date in a shady hotel is a pro, and possibly also a rob. A normal girl will be concerned for her safety, and will often want to meet in a public setting at first. A pro knows her pimp is a phone call away and is used to daily drama.
Mongers may settle for a bait and switch, an SD would immediately end the date. You did well in doing a video call before the date, but it's a pointless measure if you "settle" for a different girl, who is obviously part of a crew.
Thankfully you were able to recover your cash in this situation. I recommend reporting these rob profiles before blocking, so that the crews are kept at least partially in check.
HollywoodGuy
07-07-21, 18:36
Mongering habits don't fully translate into sugaring. When mongering scenarios happen within a sugar context, know that you're dealing with a proThis crosses my mind quite often. So many SD's start off some where else, the AMP, the street, or wherever. While there is a lot of cross over, the goal for most SD's, the guys that don't really partake elsewhere, is to find the newbiest girl possible, the kind you would never meet anywhere else. You really need to come at these girls a bit differently. Trying to explain it all is a bit too much, and there are so many stories on other threads on this platform to learn from. While any girl that accepts money for sex can be referred to as a prostitute. There is a different vibe that can be found sugaring. For me is was just about going on too many dates to count until I found the groove I was looking for. Sometimes they really are the girl next store, or just a wild child raver girl, a broke girl, a girl just sick of young guys, and sometimes an experienced pro with maybe a softer more generous personality. But the best advice I can give is to just dive right in. Get burned a few times. So what? Because once you figure it out, you may find it's exactly what you were really looking for all along.
HollywoodGuy
07-07-21, 19:12
"Have you seen my wishlist? View Here".
So I guess this is defaulting into every profile now.
Everyone I've messaged has GPS it seems. Even the average looking ones. This is just sad, man. How did it get this bad?
FirstClass1
07-08-21, 01:26
Sometimes they really are the girl next store, or just a wild child raver girl, a broke girl, a girl just sick of young guys, and sometimes an experienced pro with maybe a softer more generous personality. But the best advice I can give is to just dive right in. Get burned a few times. So what? Because once you figure it out, you may find it's exactly what you were really looking for all along.Agreed. No two arrangements are alike, as both people bring their different backgrounds and objectives to the table. That being said, when both come together in good faith, looking for the promise of a great connection. Be it purely physical or with good chemistry and compatibility. It is a fantastic experience.
Hardened, soulless tricks like taser guy below may do better with the bargain basement, gutter trash than clean normal girls, but the various sugar platforms will offer something for everyone. Sugaring offers the opportunity to connect with gorgeous young women and have a far more satisfying time than can be offered by any pro.
OcasianBoy
07-08-21, 02:40
Everyone I've messaged has GPS it seems. Even the average looking ones. This is just sad, man. How did it get this bad?There are guys willing to pay the high price. It causes inflation for the average joe.
There are guys willing to pay the high price. It causes inflation for the average joe.You're absolutely right. I mean 5's are asking for 5. Come on now!
PussyPumper
07-08-21, 15:33
Everyone I've messaged has GPS it seems. Even the average looking ones. This is just sad, man. How did it get this bad?Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the problem is an influx of John's, used to the escort scene. There they are trained to never say no. The "p*ssy sets the price" is the mantra.
They take this stupid approach with them to SA, and don't realize that arrangements are negotiable.
Anyone think there is some truth to this?
LooknFobbfscip
07-08-21, 18:44
FirstClass1, instead of decreasing your inbox space I'll tell you here. I should have excluded the word still at the bottom of my latest DM to you.
TheHuntsman
07-08-21, 22:08
I mentioned I've been talking to this girl the last 2 wks and we agreed upon 4. 5. Today we were supposed to get a room. I booked the room this morning and just a few minutes ago went to the ATM. The bank reported unusual activity so it locked my card. I log in to the app and verify recent transactions. Meanwhile I'm texting her that I'm running late do to an issue. Go back to the ATM and my card is locked again. I call the bank and while I'm on hold I text her the situation. She went cold blooded fast. She said this is a red flag, get my money, we agreed upon cash, I'm not going anywhere till you have it, this is so unattractive. Finally I clear it up with the bank the service for booking the room was out of state and that caused it. Anyway after everything she said I told her never mind that I'm going home. She said that's it your blocked and thanks for wasting my time. Maybe it was a blessing instead. No way I'm begging someone to let me pay them.
FirstClass1
07-08-21, 22:24
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the problem is an influx of John's, used to the escort scene. There they are trained to never say no. The "p*ssy sets the price" is the mantra.
They take this stupid approach with them to SA, and don't realize that arrangements are negotiable.
Anyone think there is some truth to this?I believe you are correct.
One can argue that many tricks are a variation of the simp, that is, they allow the girl. Or more specifically, the girl's "boyfriend" pimp. To set the price to play, and the rules to do so. On the other hand, an SD is aware that he has the ultimate say: should the woman truly want the consistent allowance and pleasant company of a successful man, she will accommodate his desires.
That being said, many of us are willing to go with a higher allowance for an especially beautiful and passionate woman, particularly because it means pricing out most of the bottom feeders: the knuckle dragging tricks that want SBs but also go bare with high volume intravenous-using escorts, potbellied streetwalkers on Fig, unwashed homeless on Skid Row, and other dysgenic, high-risk human refuse. It is the same reason why people who can afford it go to Equinox rather than Planet Fitness, or Spago rather than Dominos: the quality and the exclusivity.
There will always be outliers, and you may find a fresh beautiful novice who will agree to a modest allowance. And as always vet the girl to your own standards: plain, fat and frumpy girls with baggage who ask for 500+ deserve to be sent away with laughter.
John HandCock
07-09-21, 00:57
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the problem is an influx of John's, used to the escort scene. There they are trained to never say no. The "p*ssy sets the price" is the mantra.
They take this stupid approach with them to SA, and don't realize that arrangements are negotiable.
Anyone think there is some truth to this?Guys have always ruined everything. Years ago you never heard the escort terminology used from a Sugar baby. Then escort guys show up an you get them asking for specific price for a blow job or how much for an hour. Its been around so long now it's standard. Escorts found their way to the sites and and guys knowing they were escorts immediately dubbed them babies. Working from motels, quoting quickies or specific acts LOL. Yeah guys ruin everything.
FirstClass1
07-10-21, 02:58
I mentioned I've been talking to this girl the last 2 wks and we agreed upon 4. 5. Today we were supposed to get a room. I booked the room this morning and just a few minutes ago went to the ATM. The bank reported unusual activity so it locked my card. I log in to the app and verify recent transactions. Meanwhile I'm texting her that I'm running late do to an issue. Go back to the ATM and my card is locked again. I call the bank and while I'm on hold I text her the situation. She went cold blooded fast. She said this is a red flag, get my money, we agreed upon cash, I'm not going anywhere till you have it, this is so unattractive. Finally I clear it up with the bank the service for booking the room was out of state and that caused it. Anyway after everything she said I told her never mind that I'm going home. She said that's it your blocked and thanks for wasting my time. Maybe it was a blessing instead. No way I'm begging someone to let me pay them.By the mere fact that this girl agreed to show up at a hotel room without having met you, she must be a pro. That being said, her reaction is understandable, as there are tricks that will refuse to provide the allowance after a trip to the FC.
I'd recommend not booking the room until you've actually met the girl and know if you're into each other. Otherwise you have no idea who will show up, and it can become a "bait and switch" or a "cash and dash" situation.
TheHuntsman
07-10-21, 12:38
By the mere fact that this girl agreed to show up at a hotel room without having met you, she must be a pro. That being said, her reaction is understandable, as there are tricks that will refuse to provide the allowance after a trip to the FC.
I'd recommend not booking the room until you've actually met the girl and know if you're into each other. Otherwise you have no idea who will show up, and it can become a "bait and switch" or a "cash and dash" situation.We had actually done a m&g 2 weeks ago and been texting daily. Idk maybe it's just the entitlement idk.
Alkalinedio
07-10-21, 14:04
Some red flags I look for also to weed out these "working pros" are all the hotel selfies, or motel selfies. You can't miss those old school air conditioners near the floor under the window those are classic AC's at the motels I used to use in Compton like the Bradfield, Lark, etc way back in the early 2000's. Any motel or hotel selfie I'm out, any girls with face tattoos I'm out, and if they start shooting off prices from the first few texts I'm out. Those will usually always be a pro-type of encounter. I try to meet for coffee or something first and if they are really newbies they are usually cool with that, then one thing leads to another and it's a non-pro experience. This is purely my encounters I'm sure they are different for everyone but usually, I get a feel after few texts and a mandatory phone call to see how they sound and talk. I had one girl the other day reply to me and sent her number, she was 18 and a barista she claims, was cool on the phone. Her account was made like 3 days prior (but probably had previous accounts based on how she spoke on text later on) claimed she met her first guy the night before and gave him a BBBJ CIM. I said ok let's meet for coffee after she gets off work, she said cool. Then, we hang up and she starts into "what are you looking for" and then said she has a lot of other customers LOLLLLLL hitting her up, as soon as she said that word customer I told her you're not a barista, you are a hooker and I was done and blocked her. Just my recent experience, she was definitely not new to it quoting prices and using the word customer. I told her good luck and blocked her.
Stay safe.
AD.
Guys have always ruined everything. Years ago you never heard the escort terminology used from a Sugar baby. Then escort guys show up an you get them asking for specific price for a blow job or how much for an hour. Its been around so long now it's standard. Escorts found their way to the sites and and guys knowing they were escorts immediately dubbed them babies. Working from motels, quoting quickies or specific acts LOL. Yeah guys ruin everything.
HollywoodGuy
07-10-21, 23:16
By the mere fact that this girl agreed to show up at a hotel room without having met you, she must be a pro. That being said, her reaction is understandable, as there are tricks that will refuse to provide the allowance after a trip to the FC.
I'd recommend not booking the room until you've actually met the girl and know if you're into each other. Otherwise you have no idea who will show up, and it can become a "bait and switch" or a "cash and dash" situation.I have done a few M&G's in the parking lot of a no-tel. Mostly I ended up booking the room after. But a couple times I passed.
HollywoodGuy
07-10-21, 23:27
Some red flags I look for also to weed out these "working pros" are all the hotel selfies, or motel selfies. You can't miss those old school air conditioners near the floor under the window those are classic AC's at the motels I used to use in Compton like the Bradfield, Lark, etc way back in the early 2000's. Any motel or hotel selfie I'm out, any girls with face tattoos I'm out, and if they start shooting off prices from the first few texts I'm out. Those will usually always be a pro-type of encounter. I try to meet for coffee or something first and if they are really newbies they are usually cool with that, then one thing leads to another and it's a non-pro experience. This is purely my encounters I'm sure they are different for everyone but usually, I get a feel after few texts and a mandatory phone call to see how they sound and talk. I had one girl the other day reply to me and sent her number, she was 18 and a barista she claims, was cool on the phone. Her account was made like 3 days prior (but probably had previous accounts based on how she spoke on text later on) claimed she met her first guy the night before and gave him a BBBJ CIM. I said ok let's meet for coffee after she gets off work, she said cool. Then, we hang up and she starts into "what are you looking for" and then said she has a lot of other customers LOLLLLLL hitting her up, as soon as she said that word customer I told her you're not a barista, you are a hooker and I was done and blocked her. Just my recent experience, she was definitely not new to it quoting prices and using the word customer. I told her good luck and blocked her.
Stay safe.
AD.My 2 cents on pros. I have met a few really nice ones on seeking over the years. Non rush, most everything on the menu, sweet nice girls. If they are my type in the face, but mostly the body I don't really care. A few did become regulars for a bit. Not all seasoned pros are alike. And many were one offs but so have a lot of inexperienced girls. I have not met a new girl in maybe a year now due to no funds. But I still have two I see regularly that moved to more of a friend basis. One is more like a PT GF and does sleep overs and the other has her own money from dancing and still lives with the folks. I am kinda stuck with them for now till things pick up. Both have menu limits, but beggars can't be choosers.
I mentioned I've been talking to this girl the last 2 wks and we agreed upon 4. 5. Today we were supposed to get a room. I booked the room this morning and just a few minutes ago went to the ATM. The bank reported unusual activity so it locked my card. I log in to the app and verify recent transactions. Meanwhile I'm texting her that I'm running late do to an issue. Go back to the ATM and my card is locked again. I call the bank and while I'm on hold I text her the situation. She went cold blooded fast. She said this is a red flag, get my money, we agreed upon cash, I'm not going anywhere till you have it, this is so unattractive. Finally I clear it up with the bank the service for booking the room was out of state and that caused it. Anyway after everything she said I told her never mind that I'm going home. She said that's it your blocked and thanks for wasting my time. Maybe it was a blessing instead. No way I'm begging someone to let me pay them.I don't think her reaction was out of line. I'd have made up some other reason I'm running late other than having problems getting access to cash. It does sound like she's a straight-up pro, though.
I'd also recommend NEVER booking a room with an ATM card. Always use a credit card, and never let anything have access directly to your funds.
I once had my ATM card skimmed, and they snagged about $3 K, hitting gas station ATMs over a few days before my bank was smart enough to alert my oblivious ass. Canceled everything, and they put the money back into my account, but it was still a little inconvenient chatting on the phone to get it all straightened out.
Alkalinedio
07-11-21, 21:16
I think you and I are in the exact same boat. If I had the funds to be lavish and sample the pros and NP's alike I probably would to be honest. The truth is, funds for me personally are barely hanging on right now due to the past year and half as well. Some people the past year their business increased, and are doing strong I am so happy for them. Unfortunately, my line of work very different polar opposite but it's ok I'm still happy and as you said, beggars can't be choosers I've learned to improvise! Nice to hear you managed to get a longer term thing with those, good on you.
Stay safe,
AD.
My 2 cents on pros. I have met a few really nice ones on seeking over the years. Non rush, most everything on the menu, sweet nice girls. If they are my type in the face, but mostly the body I don't really care. A few did become regulars for a bit. Not all seasoned pros are alike. And many were one offs but so have a lot of inexperienced girls. I have not met a new girl in maybe a year now due to no funds. But I still have two I see regularly that moved to more of a friend basis. One is more like a PT GF and does sleep overs and the other has her own money from dancing and still lives with the folks. I am kinda stuck with them for now till things pick up. Both have menu limits, but beggars can't be choosers.
This girl lives far from me if anyone is interested. Was going to meet and greet but didn't want to drive far out so I asked what she was seeking. Not my price range but seems real based on the vibe I got from her. Looks hot. Must be baller status, otherwise, don't bother.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d29ab5d7-5a90-4c11-9560-0d6186243097
She seems TGTBT.
This girl lives far from me if anyone is interested. Was going to meet and greet but didn't want to drive far out so I asked what she was seeking. Not my price range but seems real based on the vibe I got from her. Looks hot. Must be baller status, otherwise, don't bother.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d29ab5d7-5a90-4c11-9560-0d6186243097
She seems TGTBT.I would share pic of hot SB I have had but too risky. I have no idea who monitors this site. And recently, I seem to have been followed when I was with a regular SB so definitely not worth it to prove something to people I'll never meet here.
I'd recommend not booking the room until you've actually met the girl and know if you're into each other. Otherwise you have no idea who will show up, and it can become a "bait and switch" or a "cash and dash" situation.Dayuse.com is great for this situation. You can book pretty nice hotels during the day at reasonable rates, often Hiltons and similar chains. Availability has improved compared to pre-Covid times. "Daytime" includes happy hour at many hotels, you can rent until 8 or 9 in the evening.
Say you are doing a M&G at noon, maybe getting lunch. Book a room on Dayuse for a 12-6 slot and tell them you will check-in 2:00. No deposit required on the website, pay at the hotel. Once you meet the girl, you will know pretty quickly if you are going to the FC with her that day. If not, or if she is a no-show, as long as you cancel the hotel by 2:00, no problem and no charge. If you cancel after your check-in time there is still no charge, but if you do it too often, you will have problems with the website and they may cancel your membership. If you tell the hotel you will arrive at 2:00 and show up at 1:00, they always have a room for you, so make the check-in time on your reservation the latest you expect to get to the hotel.
Its very smooth to have the hotel all set and it makes it easier to get your SB there. The girls also are in a much better mood to provide good service in a nice hotel than in some roach motel (which may not be much cheaper anyway).
FarFarAway
07-14-21, 16:53
Dayuse.com is great for this situation. You can book pretty nice hotels during the day at reasonable rates, often Hiltons and similar chains. Availability has improved compared to pre-Covid times. "Daytime" includes happy hour at many hotels, you can rent until 8 or 9 in the evening.
Say you are doing a M&G at noon, maybe getting lunch. Book a room on Dayuse for a 12-6 slot and tell them you will check-in 2:00. No deposit required on the website, pay at the hotel. Once you meet the girl, you will know pretty quickly if you are going to the FC with her that day. If not, or if she is a no-show, as long as you cancel the hotel by 2:00, no problem and no charge. If you cancel after your check-in time there is still no charge, but if you do it too often, you will have problems with the website and they may cancel your membership. If you tell the hotel you will arrive at 2:00 and show up at 1:00, they always have a room for you, so make the check-in time on your reservation the latest you expect to get to the hotel.
Its very smooth to have the hotel all set and it makes it easier to get your SB there. The girls also are in a much better mood to provide good service in a nice hotel than in some roach motel (which may not be much cheaper anyway).Same for hotelsbyday.com. The reservation does not require a credit card, but if you are sure and pay in advance, you get $10 off. Their rates are like 100 for a nice hotel for the 9 or 10 to 3 or 4 time frame. For a Holiday Inn away from the big city, more like 70.
FirstClass1
07-17-21, 19:12
Dayuse.com is great for this situation. You can book pretty nice hotels during the day at reasonable rates, often Hiltons and similar chains. Availability has improved compared to pre-Covid times. "Daytime" includes happy hour at many hotels, you can rent until 8 or 9 in the evening.
Say you are doing a M&G at noon, maybe getting lunch. Book a room on Dayuse for a 12-6 slot and tell them you will check-in 2:00. No deposit required on the website, pay at the hotel. Once you meet the girl, you will know pretty quickly if you are going to the FC with her that day. If not, or if she is a no-show, as long as you cancel the hotel by 2:00, no problem and no charge. If you cancel after your check-in time there is still no charge, but if you do it too often, you will have problems with the website and they may cancel your membership. If you tell the hotel you will arrive at 2:00 and show up at 1:00, they always have a room for you, so make the check-in time on your reservation the latest you expect to get to the hotel.
Its very smooth to have the hotel all set and it makes it easier to get your SB there. The girls also are in a much better mood to provide good service in a nice hotel than in some roach motel (which may not be much cheaper anyway).Agreed, motels in LA can be only $20-30 less than a hotel stay, the latter being magnitudes more comfortable and secure. And as Dogbert mentioned, girls appreciate a a clean and comfortable FC. Dayuse and hotelsbyday are both great services, and work very well as already described.
I've used Hotels Tonight for many years, as they provide a good quality selection at far better rates than most booking sites. Being a regular customer, I get deep discounts and promotional rates, at times $100-200 less than the next lowest competitor. When meeting for an afternoon or evening date, I've often booked the room at the end of the M&G when the girl has consented and is DTF; a few swipes on the app and we're off to the races.
FirstClass1
07-29-21, 16:23
Here are some basic guidelines for newer SDs to save time and money.
1. Never send any money before meeting. Not one cent. Only scammers will ever ask for money before meeting. Never accept "online arrangements until we can meet," gas money requests, etc.
2. Never pay for a meet and greet: no play, no pay. Your time is far more valuable than that of any rinser.
3. Should the profile not have any full body pictures, or use all sorts of wacky filters, request unedited full body photos or a video call before meeting. Fatties and fuglies will zoom in on their face and use deceptive angles and filters to conceal how gross they truly are. Don't let a catfish waste your time.
4. Set expectations ahead of time, be clear and confident about what you are looking for. Never settle for less, or allow her to move the goal posts. Girls appreciate clarity and your direction.
5. Don't get stuck on any one chick, expecting her to be "the one. " Many girls can be fickle, always keep more in the pipeline.
6. Make sure to tell your potential SB that you are looking for a regular that appreciates you and wants to make you happy, whatever it takes to please you. This is to ensure she gives it her all. Whether you actually intend to continue seeing her is up to you, but this keeps away time wasters and discourages bad lays.
7. Meet & greets should be in a setting with an easy out, preferably a casual setting such as meeting for coffee, ice cream, drinks. Lunch or dinner can be awkward if a fat / ugly chick that you don't want to be around shows up. You select the place to meet: don't have a gold digger or rinser drag you to a high end restaurant, or a rob direct you to a place where your defenses are neutralized.
8. Don't be afraid to discuss expectations beforehand, but move this off site as soon as you can. Use neutral terms on the site, and at the beginning of texting to avoid bans and suspensions. Once the girl demonstrates she's DTF, be as transparent as you like.
9. Never pay any cash at the beginning of the date. Always after visiting the FC to avoid cash and dash, or bait and switch situations.
10. Keep talking and texting to an efficient minimum, moving the conversation to an in-person date as soon as you can. Otherwise momentum will be lost, and time wasted.
11. You call the shots, you set the terms, this is your arrangement. You are a sugar daddy, not a trick. There are more WGs on the site since FOSTA made it harder for them to operate elsewhere, but do not let them set the tone. Never accept a prostitute's rules, or more specifically, her pimp's rules. If she drops escort terminology or rules, report her ass and keep her in Skid Row for the chumps.
12. Remain tenacious and alert: online dating is a minefield, but there are still gems to be found. Trust your instincts: if something feels off, it probably is. If things feel great, keep a guarded optimism until reaching the FC.
13. Report all scammers to the site, and post a warning on this forum with pictures, especially if she's a rob or blackmailer.
14. Have fun and stay positive, approaching each interaction on its own terms. Have a friendly and approachable profile: any negativity in your profile can deter a connection with many quality girls. Keeping a comfortable environment and good vibes will increase your chances of success.
Feel free to share more tips here. Happy Hunting.
I'm not sure if it's just me or the women that have been on SA this month but I've been looking for something during the week while my live in situation with my old SB but current roommate (well she lives in my townhome) works Mon. Fri and travels for work.
I've met about 3 absolutely 7/8/9's who were Asians for dinner and got to just take them back to my place for a small amount allowance wise.
Met with a Latina last night. Killer body, ended up and my place. Got nothing from me and wants to meet next Friday.
Tonight have another Asian I'm going to be meeting and she's got that ABG style.
The date I'm looking forward to is this other Latina on Saturday, meeting for sushi and drinks. I didn't believe her photos were real so we FaceTimed (made an excuse that I wanted to get to know her and see how we vibed). Easily a 9 in LA. Down to meet twice a week for 2.5 k.
It's been a run fellas and I hope you're feeling it too.
HollywoodGuy
07-30-21, 13:16
13. Report all scammers to the site, and post a warning on this forum with pictures, especially if she's a rob or blackmailer.I don't agree with this one, only because I do not want to draw any attention to my profile for any reason from admin.
PriscillaM
07-30-21, 17:12
I'm not sure if it's just me or the women that have been on SA this month but I've been looking for something during the week while my live in situation with my old SB but current roommate (well she lives in my townhome) works Mon. Fri and travels for work.
I've met about 3 absolutely 7/8/9's who were Asians for dinner and got to just take them back to my place for a small amount allowance wise.
Met with a Latina last night. Killer body, ended up and my place. Got nothing from me and wants to meet next Friday.
Tonight have another Asian I'm going to be meeting and she's got that ABG style.
The date I'm looking forward to is this other Latina on Saturday, meeting for sushi and drinks. I didn't believe her photos were real so we FaceTimed (made an excuse that I wanted to get to know her and see how we vibed). Easily a 9 in LA. Down to meet twice a week for 2.5 k.
It's been a run fellas and I hope you're feeling it too.Twice a week for $2,500. As they say, there is no $1,250 hooker, only a $1,250 john. Got to love nonpros.
Have a few girls on SA in the LA that are great and only want a nominal allowance. DM for trades.
FarFarAway
07-31-21, 18:05
Have a few girls on SA in the LA that are great and only want a nominal allowance. DM for trades.Seriously?
I wish everyone would follow these guidelines. I agree with HG on #13. I will block people if they turn hostile but I avoid fights. I don't hesitate to block people who I think might try to retaliate on me with a false report to admin. I post my local forum on dangerous people: blackmailers / robbers. I often warn about rinsers, time-wasters and scammer but only via private DM's. I never post successes. In the past, guys have raced to report ME to the SB mentioned screwing up my play.
Just an odd mention: I have turned some of the scammers into penpals. A lot of them are from East Europe. I speak Russian and can spot a slavic accent easily. These guys work in shifts so they can text any time of the day and night and the personality and language skill shifts can be abrupt. I know: too much time on my hands. LOL!
Bam.
13. Report all scammers to the site, and post a warning on this forum with pictures, especially if she's a rob or blackmailer.
Feel free to share more tips here. Happy Hunting.
BigBear818
08-01-21, 15:20
I'm not sure if it's just me or the women that have been on SA this month but I've been looking for something during the week while my live in situation with my old SB but current roommate (well she lives in my townhome) works Mon. Fri and travels for work.
I've met about 3 absolutely 7/8/9's who were Asians for dinner and got to just take them back to my place for a small amount allowance wise.
Met with a Latina last night. Killer body, ended up and my place. Got nothing from me and wants to meet next Friday.
Tonight have another Asian I'm going to be meeting and she's got that ABG style.
The date I'm looking forward to is this other Latina on Saturday, meeting for sushi and drinks. I didn't believe her photos were real so we FaceTimed (made an excuse that I wanted to get to know her and see how we vibed). Easily a 9 in LA. Down to meet twice a week for 2.5 k.
It's been a run fellas and I hope you're feeling it too.She just needs 10-100 more John's to see her for $2500 a week and she's set for life.
PriscillaM
08-01-21, 16:42
She just needs 10-100 more John's to see her for $2500 a week and she's set for life.She is a nonpro?
She just needs 10-100 more John's to see her for $2500 a week and she's set for life.She was a cool chick, only asking for 2500 a month to meet up twice a week. It's a steal on SA. On top of that probably one of the better asses I've ever seen and clapped?
Great week, hopefully everyone else has had some good fortune.
PriscillaM
08-01-21, 17:35
Apparently, seeking has been having undercover crews film meet and greets, fuck chambers, you name it. I hope none of you are in this?
https://crazyshit.com/cnt/medias/82660-the-real-face-of-prostitution-efukt
LMFAO.
HollywoodGuy
08-01-21, 17:43
My SB / GF that I met 8 years ago on seeking came to visit me in vegas for a week. Only my 2nd wife had lasted longer than that. She still looks good, If her body is an 8 her face is a 9. I have given her about a $$ allowance a month for the last year. But in 8 years it's come to about 40 k. That puts her in about maybe 6th place in all time expenditures for any girl I have ever known (both wives included). While she was here she gave me $ so it was just about a wash for this month.
I stopped posting pics, but she looked so good yesterday after her mani/pedi I had to share. Maybe take them down in a week or so.
My SB / GF that I met 8 years ago on seeking came to visit me in vegas for a week. Only my 2nd wife had lasted longer than that. She still looks good, If her body is an 8 her face is a 9. I have given her about a $$ allowance a month for the last year. But in 8 years it's come to about 40 k. That puts her in about maybe 6th place in all time expenditures for any girl I have ever known (both wives included). While she was here she gave me $ so it was just about a wash for this month.
I stopped posting pics, but she looked so good yesterday after her mani/pedi I had to share. Maybe take them down in a week or so.Very, very nice. Thanks for sharing.
Very, very nice. Thanks for sharing.Ditto just wanted to add thanks for them not being just foot shots. LOL.
HollywoodGuy
08-02-21, 16:04
I accidently deleted the last post about the SD apps being banned from the app stores. And yes that is going to happening soon.
PriscillaM
08-02-21, 18:20
I accidently deleted the last post about the SD apps being banned from the app stores. And yes that is going to happening soon.Odd, SD apps are all about dating nonpros. They must be really confused at the app stores and think it is about prostitution.
HollywoodGuy
08-02-21, 21:11
Odd, SD apps are all about dating nonpros. They must be really confused at the app stores and think it is about prostitution.In spite of your continued and sometimes funny sarcasm, there are non-pros on seeking. Just target the 18 and 19 year olds ([Deleted by Admin]). While NP's may be few and far between they do exist. Every girl has a first time (taking money for sex), and many choose to do it on seeking. Most do it prior to posting but some don't. Out of about 300 girls I have had two virgins. I will just assume they were NP's. Either way there are many many very low to low mileage pros. Personally I am of the view that whether it's in the form of an agreed upon cash arrangement or the old school, fancy dinner, party favors and then back to the FC. Or worse yet, getting married. It's still pay to play.
My granny drilled it into my sisters heads "that it's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as a poor one". They both took that to heart, and both married very socially inept but rich guys. Took them both to the cleaners. Slice and dice it any way you like there is no such thing as free pussy unless you are a bona fide rock star fucking groupies (other possibilities include men in uniform and celebrities). On seeking if you are a cock star, have decent looks and some game you will pay less than the going rate if you make the effort.
In spite of your continued and sometimes funny sarcasm, there are non-pros on seeking..But I don't think anyone can deny at this point that SA is simply encouraging financial arrangements for pussy. I can't find any posts on here looking for advice about paying a girl just to hang out and have dinner. That's what is getting them kicked out of the App store.
HollywoodGuy
08-03-21, 14:54
But I don't think anyone can deny at this point that SA is simply encouraging financial arrangements for pussy. I can't find any posts on here looking for advice about paying a girl just to hang out and have dinner. That's what is getting them kicked out of the App store.One here, no. But on the seeking blog you will. Let's hope they can weather the PC storm on this topic. I am sure their legal team is all over it.
PriscillaM
08-03-21, 16:04
One here, no. But on the seeking blog you will. Let's hope they can weather the PC storm on this topic. I am sure their legal team is all over it.Yeah, I bet the legal team will be able to differentiate between (a) cityxguide that was shut down due to Fosta / Sesta and the Travel Act because there were ads for women selling pussy at hotel rooms, versus (b) seeking with women selling pussy at hotel rooms, but only after a meeting in a bar at which the parties discuss the eschatological theories of the tenth avatar of vishnu AND which hotel room they are going to fuck at and for how much.
At least I went to law school and know that as they say in Latin "bullshit is bullshit".
HollywoodGuy
08-03-21, 21:47
Yeah, I bet the legal team will be able to differentiate between (a) cityxguide that was shut down due to Fosta / Sesta and the Travel Act because there were ads for women selling pussy at hotel rooms, versus (b) seeking with women selling pussy at hotel rooms, but only after a meeting in a bar at which the parties discuss the eschatological theories of the tenth avatar of vishnu AND which hotel room they are going to fuck at and for how much.
At least I went to law school and know that as they say in Latin "bullshit is bullshit".Well I'm a H.S. drop out. But I try to keep up with things the best I can.
I had posted that all SD Apps are going to be banned from Google Play store.
Seems like Sept 1, 2021 is the date.
You can still access the sites using web browser, which is actually better.
After being banned from seeking 3 times, I investigated, and found out how much private information is shared and mined by Evil Google.
As long as you do not log in to your google account, and access the website (way more inconvenient then the App), your privacy is maintained.
Yes this means having a burner phone.
But, Seeking is king. We have to bow down, and be oppressed.
I accidently deleted the last post about the SD apps being banned from the app stores. And yes that is going to happening soon.
Has anyone ever posted a public story on the snapchat map thing hinting at a sugar relationship? Feel like it could hit a few under the radars if you don't get banned instantly.
HelloYouAre
08-06-21, 00:16
https://www.seeking.com/member/5cea7ee5-207d-436b-b7fb-ca1285684ac8
Anyone have any info or experience with the hottie? We set the ground rules and said she's on bc, and can host overnight 5 benz TGTBT?
I'm usually only in the San Diego sugar bowl But this cutie caught my attention. Any info would be much appreciated.
TheHuntsman
08-07-21, 16:36
https://www.seeking.com/member/5cea7ee5-207d-436b-b7fb-ca1285684ac8
Anyone have any info or experience with the hottie? We set the ground rules and said she's on bc, and can host overnight 5 benz TGTBT?
I'm usually only in the San Diego sugar bowl But this cutie caught my attention. Any info would be much appreciated.Tbh I would've skipped her profile because of her heading. Read my profile or be blocked.
But I hope your have a good time.
DavidTheSancho
08-10-21, 23:04
Has anyone verified their account on SA via picture, IG, etc. I guess I ask because if a girl is verified is there a pretty safe bet she's real? Or are they still pretty easy to spoof?
Yeah, I bet the legal team will be able to differentiate between (a) cityxguide that was shut down due to Fosta / Sesta and the Travel Act because there were ads for women selling pussy at hotel rooms, versus (b) seeking with women selling pussy at hotel rooms, but only after a meeting in a bar at which the parties discuss the eschatological theories of the tenth avatar of vishnu AND which hotel room they are going to fuck at and for how much.
At least I went to law school and know that as they say in Latin "bullshit is bullshit".Way back in the day my law professor for Wills and Trusts class said if it "smells like bullshit" than it is!
HollywoodGuy
08-11-21, 18:01
Alternative Type of Arrangement. Big Mistake. Just pay her whatever the agreed upon allowance is and let her be responsible for her own shit. That relationship could end tomorrow.
...basically meaning I'm on the hook if she doesn't pay her monthly rent ($3,500 per month).That sounds like a very bad idea. You don't want her lack of financial responsibility to be your problem. Don't do it.
HollywoodGuy
08-11-21, 18:02
VinoVeritas034 - Alternative Type of Arrangement.
Hi gents,
Been a while since I posted here. Wanted to get advice from the community on a different type of arrangement. A few months ago I came across a 10/10 (even by LA standards) on SA. We began a different type of arrangement where she became my dedicated travel companion, so I covered her airfare and meals and we have been traveling the world together for the past almost 3 months. She's drop dead gorgeous, killer body, well-spoken and a total insatiable freak in the sack, so just my type. She's never asked for a dime beyond the airfare and dinners. Well, now we're back in LA and it's time for both of us to go back to our respective jobs after taking leaves of absence. She is moving to a new apartment and has asked me to sign on as guarantor on her new lease, basically meaning I'm on the hook if she doesn't pay her monthly rent ($3,500 per month). She hasn't asked for a monthly allowance or anything else. Anyone ever signed on as a lease guarantor in lieu of a monthly allowance and have views on this type of thing? Thanks in advance.
ChrisHansen92
08-11-21, 18:20
The lease is "The Bible" for what you could be in for if this goes bad. Including trying to get her out to turn the keys back over to them. Read it carefully.
VinoVeritas034 - Alternative Type of Arrangement.
Hi gents,
Been a while since I posted here. Wanted to get advice from the community on a different type of arrangement. A few months ago I came across a 10/10 (even by LA standards) on SA. We began a different type of arrangement where she became my dedicated travel companion, so I covered her airfare and meals and we have been traveling the world together for the past almost 3 months. She's drop dead gorgeous, killer body, well-spoken and a total insatiable freak in the sack, so just my type. She's never asked for a dime beyond the airfare and dinners. Well, now we're back in LA and it's time for both of us to go back to our respective jobs after taking leaves of absence. She is moving to a new apartment and has asked me to sign on as guarantor on her new lease, basically meaning I'm on the hook if she doesn't pay her monthly rent ($3,500 per month). She hasn't asked for a monthly allowance or anything else. Anyone ever signed on as a lease guarantor in lieu of a monthly allowance and have views on this type of thing? Thanks in advance.
Here's my opinion: Your fear of being "on the hook for $3500 a month" should be enough of a red flag but if you've got the cash and $3500 isn't a big deal then go for it. I think this is opening the door for calls of "can you just help me out a little bit this month?" which is a slippery slope.
She sounds wonderful but it's more likely you'll go your separate ways in a few months than you'll be seeing her for the full run of that lease. And money between friends can often end a friendship.
A friend of a mine (hotshot Hollywood producer) has done this on many occasions. He's even bought them cars and paid off student loans, but he's got the cash to burn and he's happy to help out these hotties to keep them all within reach.
Godspeed, my brother.
VinoVeritas034 - Alternative Type of Arrangement.
Hi gents,
Been a while since I posted here. Wanted to get advice from the community on a different type of arrangement. A few months ago I came across a 10/10 (even by LA standards) on SA. We began a different type of arrangement where she became my dedicated travel companion, so I covered her airfare and meals and we have been traveling the world together for the past almost 3 months. She's drop dead gorgeous, killer body, well-spoken and a total insatiable freak in the sack, so just my type. She's never asked for a dime beyond the airfare and dinners. Well, now we're back in LA and it's time for both of us to go back to our respective jobs after taking leaves of absence. She is moving to a new apartment and has asked me to sign on as guarantor on her new lease, basically meaning I'm on the hook if she doesn't pay her monthly rent ($3,500 per month). She hasn't asked for a monthly allowance or anything else. Anyone ever signed on as a lease guarantor in lieu of a monthly allowance and have views on this type of thing? Thanks in advance.
HollywoodGuy
08-11-21, 18:32
Paid my SA membership for a month for the first time in a year (new higher rates. Just like everything else). After reading all the covid era posts you would think that GPS and scamming are the new normal. I'll let you all know how it pans out once I have something to report.
FirstClass1
08-11-21, 21:50
Has anyone verified their account on SA via picture, IG, etc. I guess I ask because if a girl is verified is there a pretty safe bet she's real? Or are they still pretty easy to spoof?Scammer rings tend to create as many fake profiles as possible, with one photo, and maybe one line of text, as it's more time consuming to set up a social media back story. Lately I've come across profiles with one photo and zero text.
That being said, more sophisticated scammers, particularly those girls who have been following "sugar baby influencers" on TikTok and Instagram, will verify their accounts and attempt to get money out of you before meeting.
There's a greater amount of bullshit on the site, but it's still possible to find some gems. I just creampied a gorgeous 20-something year old green-eyed redhead last night who didn't ask for any allowance.
FirstClass1
08-11-21, 22:08
https://www.seeking.com/member/5cea7ee5-207d-436b-b7fb-ca1285684ac8
Anyone have any info or experience with the hottie? We set the ground rules and said she's on bc, and can host overnight 5 benz TGTBT?
I'm usually only in the San Diego sugar bowl But this cutie caught my attention. Any info would be much appreciated.It's another rob account. I reached out and she wants money before meeting.
Uncountable
08-11-21, 23:59
https://www.seeking.com/member/d3e33f54-e4a8-4754-b4a0-be0e78742b37
This lady wrote and I quote, "I am seeking someone who is a mentor and friend, and can offer me their wisdom and advice, in return I hope they might be willing to help fund some of my art practice. ".
In return for what ma'am? They will be a mentor who will offer wisdom and advice, and in return give you money? What exactly are you offering?
Forgive me, I just saw the Platonic label as I re-read her profile. Makes sense!
VinoVeritas034
08-12-21, 11:05
Thank you for all the comments and DMs gentlemen. It has been very helpful. Much appreciate the community's advice.
VinoVeritas034 - Alternative Type of Arrangement.
Hi gents,
Been a while since I posted here. Wanted to get advice from the community on a different type of arrangement. A few months ago I came across a 10/10 (even by LA standards) on SA. We began a different type of arrangement where she became my dedicated travel companion, so I covered her airfare and meals and we have been traveling the world together for the past almost 3 months. She's drop dead gorgeous, killer body, well-spoken and a total insatiable freak in the sack, so just my type. She's never asked for a dime beyond the airfare and dinners. Well, now we're back in LA and it's time for both of us to go back to our respective jobs after taking leaves of absence. She is moving to a new apartment and has asked me to sign on as guarantor on her new lease, basically meaning I'm on the hook if she doesn't pay her monthly rent ($3,500 per month). She hasn't asked for a monthly allowance or anything else. Anyone ever signed on as a lease guarantor in lieu of a monthly allowance and have views on this type of thing? Thanks in advance.
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HollywoodGuy
08-13-21, 02:56
So far all I have seen since re-upping my membership is that there seem to be less girls than a year ago.
So far all I have seen since re-upping my membership is that there seem to be less girls than a year ago.I agree but I'm hoping more girls come back to the site when college starts. I'm going to restart my subscription mid September when they start running low on alcohol money.
HollywoodGuy
08-13-21, 21:58
I agree but I'm hoping more girls come back to the site when college starts. I'm going to restart my subscription mid September when they start running low on alcohol money.It's funny you say that. The first civi style girl I am connecting with is a college girl with a job.
HollywoodGuy
08-15-21, 06:15
I forgot what a numbers game this is. You really have to hit up a lot of girls. Like as many as possible. Especially if you are a low baller like me.
HollywoodGuy
08-15-21, 14:48
You know I would date an older girl. Like 22 and up. But most of them are players. It's like a battle of wits. I prefer the younger ones anyway. Last time I was in the bowl my budget only allowed for one new girl a month. Did a few repeats with the better ones. Two new ones a month would be in my budget these days. Kind of a good thing doing this on a budget as it keeps me from just running out the house to see anyone who says yes. And if you can offer $$ to $$$ a date you are going to get a lot of yes's. Anyone who says otherwise isn't trying.
HollywoodGuy
08-16-21, 02:26
https://www.seeking.com/member/9bc6c789-a554-4dcc-9dbf-f67c5a6ec366
$ for 30 min
$$ for 1 hour
$$$ for 2 hours
Nor for me but maybe for you.
Alkalinedio
08-17-21, 01:50
I concur, but you strike gold every now and then I'll get dry spells from SA for up to a few weeks, then find 2. I agree with another comment I just read the older ones are more seasoned and harder to lowball.
AD.
I forgot what a numbers game this is. You really have to hit up a lot of girls. Like as many as possible. Especially if you are a low baller like me.
Brazuca1979
08-17-21, 21:54
cuddlecomfort.com type it on google don't copy won't work, why no one have you tried that?
I forgot what a numbers game this is. You really have to hit up a lot of girls. Like as many as possible. Especially if you are a low baller like me.It really is but I keep coming back, because when it works out. It really works out LOL.
I've actually been wondering lately, "Has the site changed?" or "has my effort changed?" HollywoodGuy do you usually send out a copy and pasted super short opener? Or you putting some time in to them?
TheHuntsman
08-18-21, 00:41
https://www.seeking.com/member/419c4d2d-36ae-41fe-9f5e-b74a6da06e4d
Met with her a few times last year. Wouldn't repeat. Has like 3 or 4 kids and her body kinda shows it. Only did head for $ allows lots of touching and even kissing. Even though I didn't want to kiss her but she went in to kiss me as soon as she got in my car. Allowed to record session. Turn off is that she smells. I remember her saying she was going to shower and then meet me, but when we met up she still has a strong body odor. Last time I had seen her she didn't swallow and actually let it get on my pants. So no repeat again.
TheHuntsman
08-18-21, 00:51
https://www.seeking.com/member/de556647-0adb-4fef-b586-f5f9ad16e968
I believe I posted about her recently. She had been on SA a few years ago and was trying to scam people for money.
TheHuntsman
08-18-21, 01:12
https://www.seeking.com/member/fb0dfc33-5111-454a-ae44-8be318d88f62
Met up with her 2 xs last year. Was good to hook up right away. No discussion of price. I gave her whatever I felt like and no complaints. Yes, she is chubby. Smaller chest with a chubby body but still a good fuck.
https://www.seeking.com/member/fb0dfc33-5111-454a-ae44-8be318d88f62
Met up with her 2 xs last year. Was good to hook up right away. No discussion of price. I gave her whatever I felt like and no complaints. Yes, she is chubby. Smaller chest with a chubby body but still a good fuck.Thanks for Intel, I wanted to try her but didn't pull the trigger.
TheHuntsman
08-18-21, 20:17
Thanks for Intel, I wanted to try her but didn't pull the trigger.I wouldn't repeat since she let all my man juice get on my pants 2 xs. When I'd seen her previously she swallowed but as I said she had a strong body odor. But she definitely took care of me when I first met her. I don't remember what her profile says but she's definitely into white and Hispanic guys with beards. Kinda like a Dom too.
TheHuntsman
08-18-21, 20:23
Thanks for Intel, I wanted to try her but didn't pull the trigger.Ugh sorry. Please disregard my previous response. I thought you were talking about Kandi.
Yes, this girl was fun but I'd recommend negotiating first. First time we met I messaged her and told her how I used to see her on okcupid a few years ago but never messaged her. We start chatting and she came over that night. I tried to hint at what she wanted but she didn't say anything so afterwards I gave her "gas money"of about $ and she was fine with that and we met up again.
But definitely make sure you hammer out payment because the 2nd time I didn't give her anything since we met by her location. And we have never discussed payment and the 1st time was gas money. Anyway she didn't contact me again after that 2nd time so hammer out a price so there's no confusion.
https://www.seeking.com/member/de556647-0adb-4fef-b586-f5f9ad16e968
I believe I posted about her recently. She had been on SA a few years ago and was trying to scam people for money.I agree. Avoid this one. I picked her up from her dorm room at Fullerton and man she's a chick that's got issues and only wants to scam you.
TheHuntsman
08-18-21, 23:16
I agree. Avoid this one. I picked her up from her dorm room at Fullerton and man she's a chick that's got issues and only wants to scam you.How long ago was this? I remember after my experience with her and what I read on here that I saw on her IG that she moved out of state with her bf. She was basically begging for money on her IG.
Although tbh she must be crazy because she gave me her real name and had messaged me on FB. Which let me see her parents fb page LOL.
TheHuntsman
08-18-21, 23:21
https://www.seeking.com/member/ff3d74c1-2b4d-4767-8ede-77170be4d4ec
I'm talking like running your hands thru the hair on your head bish. I met her last year. She's good to go. Picked her up and even on the drive back to my place she was touching up on me. We were in my driveway and I got a call from my job and she was putting my free hand on her tits. Decent enough fuck, a bit chubby and soft in the middle but a good time. We really didn't connect personality wise. The conversation didn't click. When we were going for round two she said pretend I'm younger than I am. I won't quote the number she used, but she's freaky in that way. Again huge Bush.
TheHuntsman
08-18-21, 23:30
https://www.seeking.com/member/09e8a748-9591-41f8-802b-803ac92708a9
This is Alicia and she's wild af. She likes heavier in these pics but she's been off and on SA since she was like 18. I'm sure someone here has met her. She's into hardcore sex, being degraded, fisting. Not sure if she currently has a bf but I know she had 2 long term bfs during the times she's been on SA.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c45f84ff-b593-432f-930a-c3c05fa258d4
This one messaged me, saying she could only meet up now in LB, wanted $$ and later lowered price, but she can only meet up immediately, I'm thinking she's a scam.
FirstClass1
08-19-21, 16:07
I have not partaken, but she claims to be into creampie, anal and swallowing for 400, and can hang out all day. She claims to be in Garden Grove.
My instincts say its TGTBT, but maybe one of you guys are willing to TOFTT.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7ff77c83-9f4c-4627-a72d-95f7a711e0d8
TheHuntsman
08-19-21, 21:19
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/78d2a59959624b12
Time waster. We talked a bit but she's a total flake ava too busy to meet. Or too busy to meet me. We only met once on my lunch break but this was after multiple times of her flaking. Yes we did make out and she gave me some head but is a flake and terrible at replying in a timely manner. Weeks went by and she randomly text me "hi". I replied, "I had pretty much given up hope you were going to message me again". Her response, "ok, bye". WTF!?
HollywoodGuy
08-20-21, 15:06
It really is but I keep coming back, because when it works out. It really works out LOL.
I've actually been wondering lately, "Has the site changed?" or "has my effort changed?" HollywoodGuy do you usually send out a copy and pasted super short opener? Or you putting some time in to them?All my responses are copy and paste.
https://www.seeking.com/member/09e8a748-9591-41f8-802b-803ac92708a9
This is Alicia and she's wild af. She likes heavier in these pics but she's been off and on SA since she was like 18. I'm sure someone here has met her. She's into hardcore sex, being degraded, fisting. Not sure if she currently has a bf but I know she had 2 long term bfs during the times she's been on SA.Any chance of sharing her contact info for those of us not on SA or *ahem* banned for solicitation?
Pretty please with a cherry on top?
TheHuntsman
08-21-21, 00:05
https://www.seeking.com/member/4611cbfa-e5ab-45fe-959d-bbf5b6b54e3e
Curious if anyone has met her. She's been on SA since she was 18. I had talked to her back then and saw her social media and she always came across as disillusioned and thinks too highly of herself. She used to post on her FB page how she was going to be a model and business woman. When she was 18 she was asking for 400 and that was almost 5 yrs ago. Not sure what she's asking for now but I can tell she sees herself more of a muse or courtesan. I didn't pull the trigger back when she was 18 because 1. She looked a little too young and 2. She had a few pics of her with her bf on FB and I was a little sketchy meeting up with her at her place not knowing if it was a scam. Anyway just curious if anyone has met her and their experiences.
DreamFreez
08-21-21, 16:28
The amount of millennial and gen Z girls who want sugar daddies are very high!
You just need to approach correctly, a lot of dudes in Miami, LA are flying out these girls to hang out with them from Texas and other states. Boomers got all the money tbh! And Arabs, they have that oil bank.
https://youtu.be/LIgt19zJ24k
https://youtu.be/WmRQijrKYAQ Theyre down for 200 lol
Watch that video to get a better understanding! I personally met so many girls who have sugar daddies in OC and LA! They are low key about it. I personally don't investigate, but I just listen to them talk to other girls about the benefits they get from having a sugar daddy!
I personally don't have sugar baby, but I've been with sugar mamas, met her at this dive bar on Beach Blvd close to pch and another one at Red O restaurant at Santa Monica by the pier.
HollywoodGuy
08-21-21, 23:32
The amount of millennial and gen Z girls who want sugar daddies are very high!Every girl wants a sugar daddy. It's just that some are not too realistic about the arrangements.
Every girl wants a sugar daddy. It's just that some are not too realistic about the arrangements.This is really true.
TheHuntsman
08-21-21, 23:47
This is really true.I was talking to this girl and she said she wanted $500 and said she could get that just for talking and no sex. And she's chubby. I love the profiles where they say they're down for anything or will do anything to make the guy happy, but then say platonic only. Clearly they don't understand the term do anything.
HollywoodGuy
08-22-21, 00:43
So I been on SA for about 10 days so far. I got 6 numbers from girls that agreed to my usual offer. Have not done any M&G yet. Three in L. A. And three in vegas. A couple of them are pretty nice. Only one was a straight up pro and I declined (although she probably had the best body). I,m not really in a big hurry, and even with the shortage of girls I would say I am at my usual pace. But I am only looking to hit the FC once or twice a week at this point. Lots of very fine girls in the $$ and $$$ range but oh well.
I still have my two regulars but those are both lacking in one way or another.
So I been on SA for about 10 days so far. I got 6 numbers from girls that agreed to my usual offer. Have not done any M&G yet. Three in L. A. And three in vegas. A couple of them are pretty nice. Only one was a straight up pro and I declined (although she probably had the best body). I,m not really in a big hurry, and even with the shortage of girls I would say I am at my usual pace. But I am only looking to hit the FC once or twice a week at this point. Lots of very fine girls in the $$ and $$$ range but oh well.
I still have my two regulars but those are both lacking in one way or another.Are you driving back and forth between LA and Vegas regularly? I hate that fucking drive. Just jump on a plane and land at LAX or John Wayne airport nowadays.
HollywoodGuy
08-22-21, 14:16
Are you driving back and forth between LA and Vegas regularly? I hate that fucking drive. Just jump on a plane and land at LAX or John Wayne airport nowadays.The cost of flying is about the same as gas, so no problem there. Problem is I need a car in L. A. And the rental rates are a joke these days. Plus I usually have a shit load of things in my car that I could never deal with if I was flying. Been doing this for two years. Probably going to end soon as I am losing my free place(s) to stay in L. A. And I have finally and slowly been able to re-orient my life to vegas in every way. Job, food, doctors, pussy. But since I re-started on SA 2 of the best leads I got are in L.A.
TheHuntsman
08-22-21, 21:23
https://www.seeking.com/member/98942a0f-6597-415b-94cd-1ae73d624b06
Wow, I have not seen her on SA in like forever. Idk what happened to her face though. She looks like she's had work done. Back when she was on here before she wanted like $$ for head and 1 k for sex. She had a bit of an attitude when we talked and tried saying she deserved that much because her head game had a lot of slobber. I'm attaching some photos of her from back when she was on her so you can compare to get current pics. If anyone has seen her or is going to please let me know how it went.
There's even a funny little video of her on YouTube answering some dating questions back when she was in college.
HollywoodGuy
08-26-21, 17:17
https://www.seeking.com/member/3ea534bc-ec8f-482f-ba33-b4930c67190f
https://callescort.org/424-310-4123
Agreed to my usual offer ($). I am going to pass. The phone # in her callescort add is the same one she gave me on SA.
I was talking to this girl and she said she wanted $500 and said she could get that just for talking and no sex. And she's chubby. I love the profiles where they say they're down for anything or will do anything to make the guy happy, but then say platonic only. Clearly they don't understand the term do anything.Huntsman, I tried replying to your message but your inbox is full.
ShowMeHow23
08-27-21, 19:17
Just started an exclusive encounter with a gorgeous 23 yr old Mexican / Argentinian. Never did an allowance based arrangement, but if there was one, this one is it. Still have my 25 yr Mex on the side whom allows no holes barred access now and the 20 yr old French / Chinese girl as well. Was hitting a Brazilian chick as well, but will let that go. I think I have a solid lineup that'll keep me busy.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3ea534bc-ec8f-482f-ba33-b4930c67190f
https://callescort.org/424-310-4123
Agreed to my usual offer ($). I am going to pass. The phone # in her callescort add is the same one she gave me on SA.Not that I'm following all your exploits, but she looks about 40 pounds over your spinner preferences anyway.
HollywoodGuy
08-27-21, 20:55
Not that I'm following all your exploits, but she looks about 40 pounds over your spinner preferences anyway.The only girls I am posting anymore are the ones that don't meet my requirements either by age, weight, allowance amount or whatever. They may work for some one and I am happy to (and feel everyone should when possible) give back.
TheHuntsman
08-27-21, 22:04
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/869d471df0d831c2
I've seen this girl's profile on SA, SB and SDM. She messaged me first on sb and made no small talk. Asked right away if I do ppm and then asked if I was free that night. No discussion of price. She messaged me again the next day and said she lost my number, which I never gave to her. Anyway, gave her number and made small talk and then asked me when I was free. I inquired on price and she quoted me $$ I said that's out of my price range. The norm used to be $$ with $$$ being the high end. Not sure how $$ is the new norm but I refuse to pay that. Well also my pocket book can't do that on regular basis.
Anyway. I met a girl, a little chubby but fun, who took $$.
TheHuntsman
08-28-21, 09:12
https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/869d471df0d831c2
I've seen this girl's profile on SA, SB and SDM. She messaged me first on sb and made no small talk. Asked right away if I do ppm and then asked if I was free that night. No discussion of price. She messaged me again the next day and said she lost my number, which I never gave to her. Anyway, gave her number and made small talk and then asked me when I was free. I inquired on price and she quoted me $$ I said that's out of my price range. The norm used to be $$ with $$$ being the high end. Not sure how $$ is the new norm but I refuse to pay that. Well also my pocket book can't do that on regular basis.
Anyway. I met a girl, a little chubby but fun, who took $$.Let me make a correction to my post. Not sure why the price didn't come out right. She asked asked for 5.
HollywoodGuy
08-29-21, 17:08
Let me make a correction to my post. Not sure why the price didn't come out right. She asked asked for 5.Just an FYI, and most already know this. This site has an auto correct feature that doesn't always come out the way you want it to. After posting, please re-read and make your corrections. Thanks.
TheHuntsman
08-29-21, 18:19
Just an FYI, and most already know this. This site has an auto correct feature that doesn't always come out the way you want it to. After posting, please re-read and make your corrections. Thanks.Thanks. It's even harder typing it out on my phone but yes most girls are looking for 500. That's just out of my range. Even if it wasn't I don't like that prices are going up. They should be more desperate LOL.
HollywoodGuy
08-30-21, 03:01
Thanks. It's even harder typing it out on my phone but yes most girls are looking for 500. That's just out of my range. Even if it wasn't I don't like that prices are going up. They should be more desperate LOL.And some of them are. Tonite I did my first M&G since signing up. It took two weeks but I passed on more than a few. Anyway I went and met the girl at her apt. She was a fair skinned, wavey haired mixed girl. Clean and nice apartment and about 50% more than I pay. Face wise not as good as her pics, body wise, OMG. The perfect little spinner body. Menu wise not what I hoped for but fucking that perfect spinner body will make it worth it. You know when you're paying a $ a date you do have to be willing to give some leeway here and there. The M&G lasted about an hour just talking on her bed and her flashing that pretty little girl coochie at me the whole time. Supposed to pick her up tomorrow after she gets waxed (on her dime not mine).
It felt good to be back in the game after maybe a year off? And especially doing an M&G that went well enough. She did a agree to a 1-2 hour date no problem.
HollywoodGuy
09-02-21, 01:02
Coming back to L. A. And have a two really nice NP's lined up plus one UTR so far. And there is such a thing as an NP. Everyone has a first time.
TheHuntsman
09-02-21, 17:40
Coming back to L. A. And have a two really nice NP's lined up plus one UTR so far. And there is such a thing as an NP. Everyone has a first time.Every girl has their first time. Last year I met this girl, flat earther girl, and the first time she came over all we did was watch a movie. A few days later she text me asking if I wanted to meet again but this time for sex. I said ok. She came over and she was super nervous. We went to my bedroom and started to ease into things but she was really nervous. I told her you can leave at anytime and I'll still pay you what we agreed upon. She was totally taken by surprise. Anyway we banged and we continued to see each other.
JohnRichard
09-02-21, 18:07
Has sa changed something on the pics stored on their site? These days I get zero hits on image searches. And to verify this, I have searched all pics on google and tineye from profiles in all age ranges (18 - 55) and locations (including shanghai and Mexico City LOL). Can't imagine that all the women worldwide suddenly figured out that they should not post images that are posted elsewhere.
I vet a lot of info about the few babies I meet because I have too much concerns about security of personal info. Much of my research starts with an image search. Some may say I spend too much time on research, but I feel more secure knowing.
If you have seen something about this image search issue, please share.
Tia.
Horseman69
09-03-21, 22:07
Has sa changed something on the pics stored on their site? These days I get zero hits on image searches. And to verify this, I have searched all pics on google and tineye from profiles in all age ranges (18 - 55) and locations (including shanghai and Mexico City LOL). Can't imagine that all the women worldwide suddenly figured out that they should not post images that are posted elsewhere.
I vet a lot of info about the few babies I meet because I have too much concerns about security of personal info. Much of my research starts with an image search. Some may say I spend too much time on research, but I feel more secure knowing.
If you have seen something about this image search issue, please share.
Tia.SA has changed for the worst. The options available are not what they used to be and their fees have really gone up. Aside from that, the major issue with SA at the moment is how mercilessly they ban people without any warning or type of 'strike' system. In the past month I have been banned twice. One, was due to my own recklessness on a drunken night. Offered a young chicken head some money and within less than an hour I was banned. Out of HERE! Second time actually has me really thinking they're setting up people and then banning without regard. Who watches the watchmen? If you're in the site and part of the community I recommend you be selective who you engage with and if a girl hints or throws money out. Do not reply or simply ban. SA its a fucking gold mine of sweet young pussy ready to be turned inside out and into complete tricks ready to waggle their tail when they see $. Up until two days ago I was having the most fun talking to a significant amount of girls. I met one by the moniker "La Princessa" out of Hollywood whom just recently arrived to LA via beautiful Nashville, Tennessee YEEEHAAAA Cowboys. 25 yrs Old little cute Latina willing and ready to choke on a cock for the right amount of good Ol Shugga. Yuumm Nashville Pusssy! YEEEHAAAA Cowboys. Striked a deal and within two days of fun back and fourth flirtatious the kitty bit the bait YEEEHAAAA Cowboys. Came over, had a couple seltzers, put on a space movie the rocket was off to WAP planet. GFE experienced. Choked on cock like no other, pussy so wet and warm it would make Ron Jeremy shiver in jail. Had three good rounds, she got a pearl necklace, glazed ass, glazed kitty and one Benjamin hahahahhaah. All Raw because I'm a gentle man with an ungentle cock. YEEEHAAAA Cowboys.
Will I try to get back to SA? Put your money on it. But I got a long list of potential seeds to keep me busy for a bit.
Keep safe, Keep Hunting and stop over paying fuck'and losers. Know the value of your own cock. YEEEHAAAA Cowboys.
HORSEMAN69 OUT!
FirstClass1
09-04-21, 22:03
SA has changed for the worst. The options available are not what they used to be and their fees have really gone up. Aside from that, the major issue with SA at the moment is how mercilessly they ban people without any warning or type of 'strike' system. In the past month I have been banned twice. One, was due to my own recklessness on a drunken night. Offered a young chicken head some money and within less than an hour I was banned. Out of HERE! Second time actually has me really thinking they're setting up people and then banning without regard. Who watches the watchmen? If you're in the site and part of the community I recommend you be selective who you engage with and if a girl hints or throws money out. Do not reply or simply ban. SA its a fucking gold mine of sweet young pussy ready to be turned inside out and into complete tricks ready to waggle their tail when they see $. Up until two days ago I was having the most fun talking to a significant amount of girls. I met one by the moniker "La Princessa" out of Hollywood whom just recently arrived to LA via beautiful Nashville, Tennessee YEEEHAAAA Cowboys. 25 yrs Old little cute Latina willing and ready to choke on a cock for the right amount of good Ol Shugga. Yuumm Nashville Pusssy! YEEEHAAAA Cowboys. Striked a deal and within two days of fun back and fourth flirtatious the kitty bit the bait YEEEHAAAA Cowboys. Came over, had a couple seltzers, put on a space movie the rocket was off to WAP planet. GFE experienced. Choked on cock like no other, pussy so wet and warm it would make Ron Jeremy shiver in jail. Had three good rounds, she got a pearl necklace, glazed ass, glazed kitty and one Benjamin hahahahhaah. All Raw because I'm a gentle man with an ungentle cock. YEEEHAAAA Cowboys.Will I try to get back to SA? Put your money on it. But I got a long list of potential seeds to keep me busy for a bit.
Keep safe, Keep Hunting and stop over paying fuck'and losers. Know the value of your own cock. YEEEHAAAA Cowboys.
HORSEMAN69 OUT!I tried reading this, but my eyes glazed over from all the yeehaws.
SA has implemented an algorithm that trawls all messages for keywords, including "ppm," "incall," GFE / pse, numbers and currency symbols, and other terms which may hint at solicitation. These messages get flagged for analysis, and may result in suspensions and bans. It is very difficult to appeal their decision. They're tightening the screws now that they've been de-platformed from app stores, and are trying to demonstrate that they're a conventional dating site.
Keep your conversations on site as clean as possible, using neutral terms, and take the convo offsite as soon as you can. Once you're offsite, keep using neutral terms until the girl demonstrates she's DTF, at which point you can communicate plainly.
FirstClass1
09-04-21, 22:56
Has sa changed something on the pics stored on their site? These days I get zero hits on image searches. And to verify this, I have searched all pics on google and tineye from profiles in all age ranges (18 - 55) and locations (including shanghai and Mexico City LOL). Can't imagine that all the women worldwide suddenly figured out that they should not post images that are posted elsewhere.
I vet a lot of info about the few babies I meet because I have too much concerns about security of personal info. Much of my research starts with an image search. Some may say I spend too much time on research, but I feel more secure knowing.
If you have seen something about this image search issue, please share.
Tia.Scammers now apply a filter to scraped Instagram photos to throw of reverse image search engines. Have you noticed how a lot of the one-photo scammer profiles photos are somewhat fuzzy?
Another trend is hacking older accounts with weaker passwords. These scammers will then claim to have been experienced babies to disarm novice marks. Be sure to have a strong password in your account, especially if it has any sensitive data such as personal photos.
FirstClass1
09-04-21, 23:00
Here it is if anyone wants to get 33% off:
http://links.email.seeking.com/ctt?ms=MTkxNTQ2MjgS1&kn=4&r=NDcyNTQ3MDE3MTM3S0&b=0&j=MjIwMDIyMTE5NgS2&mt=1&rt=0
I tried reading this, but my eyes glazed over from all the yeehaws.
SA has implemented an algorithm that trawls all messages for keywords, including "ppm," "incall," GFE / pse, numbers and currency symbols, and other terms which may hint at solicitation. These messages get flagged for analysis, and may result in suspensions and bans. It is very difficult to appeal their decision. They're tightening the screws now that they've been de-platformed from app stores, and are trying to demonstrate that they're a conventional dating site.
Keep your conversations on site as clean as possible, using neutral terms, and take the convo offsite as soon as you can. Once you're offsite, keep using neutral terms until the girl demonstrates she's DTF, at which point you can communicate plainly.YEEEHAAAA! I couldn't read that crazy shit either. You've provided good solid advice for anyone messing around with SA. It does sound like if you remotely piss off one of the scammers they drop some bullshit to SA admin and get you dropped. Hard to defend against that.
To be fair, I'm not currently playing on SA, but in the past I got the serious ones off to texting as soon as I could.
TheFiberCable
09-05-21, 14:08
Long time lurker here. First time posting here. I been on SA on and off. Done a few meet ups. Decided to get back into it and see what is out there. Took advantage of the membership sale.
I saw this one a while ago.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6bfec94a-98d7-491c-b4a1-def90722e4b1
Had an interesting experience with a supposed 18 year old.
Hurried texting, she sent me sexy pictures (she looked young). I said meet me at the Mall. Within an hour, she showed up and was standing at a designated spot at the mall.
Lots of red flags, The vibe was off. I texted her to send me a picture of her I'd so I can verify she is 18. She says she does not have an I'd.
Too risky for me. I drove away without a meet.
How would you handle it?
Had an interesting experience with a supposed 18 year old.
Hurried texting, she sent me sexy pictures (she looked young). I said meet me at the Mall. Within an hour, she showed up and was standing at a designated spot at the mall.
Lots of red flags, The vibe was off. I texted her to send me a picture of her I'd so I can verify she is 18. She says she does not have an I'd.
Too risky for me. I drove away without a meet.
How would you handle it?I never would have gone to the mall to meet her if she couldn't prove she was over 18.
Seriously, trying to bang chicks as close to their 18th birthday as possible is fraught with danger imo. I like to stick to drinking age and above.
Xxmishmaxx
09-05-21, 20:55
Here it is if anyone wants to get 33% off:
http://links.email.seeking.com/ctt?ms=MTkxNTQ2MjgS1&kn=4&r=NDcyNTQ3MDE3MTM3S0&b=0&j=MjIwMDIyMTE5NgS2&mt=1&rt=0Can you just use the first month sale and then cancel the subscription? Thought I read before on this thread that it was difficult to get out of the subscription for some reason? Is it easy as just going to the settings and canceling it?
I've been really wanting to try this but paying that much a month is too much.
TheHuntsman
09-05-21, 21:39
Had an interesting experience with a supposed 18 year old.
Hurried texting, she sent me sexy pictures (she looked young). I said meet me at the Mall. Within an hour, she showed up and was standing at a designated spot at the mall.
Lots of red flags, The vibe was off. I texted her to send me a picture of her I'd so I can verify she is 18. She says she does not have an I'd.
Too risky for me. I drove away without a meet.
How would you handle it?It can be hard to determine age with all those filters, the right lighting, and good angles. But if you ever have any doubt then ask for Id.
Can you just use the first month sale and then cancel the subscription? Thought I read before on this thread that it was difficult to get out of the subscription for some reason? Is it easy as just going to the settings and canceling it?
I've been really wanting to try this but paying that much a month is too much.You can go into setting and cancel the auto renewal same day.
PriscillaM
09-05-21, 23:49
Had an interesting experience with a supposed 18 year old.
Hurried texting, she sent me sexy pictures (she looked young). I said meet me at the Mall. Within an hour, she showed up and was standing at a designated spot at the mall.
Lots of red flags, The vibe was off. I texted her to send me a picture of her I'd so I can verify she is 18. She says she does not have an I'd.
Too risky for me. I drove away without a meet.
How would you handle it?I will fuck just about anything these days. There is always a way to find out if a girl is under age 18. Ask her for her ssn. No one under 25 even knows their own ssn. Or ask them who the president is. No one under 30 knows.
FirstClass1
09-06-21, 04:04
I never would have gone to the mall to meet her if she couldn't prove she was over 18.
Seriously, trying to bang chicks as close to their 18th birthday as possible is fraught with danger imo. I like to stick to drinking age and above.I am very selective of my girls, preferring them to be young and beautiful, so this is a common risk for me. I will date girls in their mid to late 20's if they're very beautiful, but never past their early 30's. Gorgeous 18 year old dimes are my absolute ideal.
There is always a danger of minors pretending to be older than they are, so I *always* card them during preliminary conversations. Even if a POT claims to be in their early 20's, and *especially* when they state to be 18 or 19.
Early on in our texting, I'll ask them to send me a photo of their government issued identification, and if they cannot provide it, I don't move forward under any circumstances. It is better to take care of this at the beginning, rather than risk meeting a minor in any setting.
Many girls will cross out sensitive data such as their address, but I require their photo and date of birth remain visible. I'll also double check the identification number to be sure it's not a fake. Once everything looks kosher, I will firm up plans for a date.
I highly recommend everyone incorporate age verification when seeking out POTs. There are millions of delicious girls of lawful age to choose from. There is no need to put our freedom and our lives at risk.
TheHuntsman
09-06-21, 10:48
https://www.seeking.com/member/aae707a2-1d9f-4463-bd7b-9539a75d66ac
Avoid the girl in the profile. I talked to her from SDM and she basically just wants free money. I'll try to sum up my interactions as best as I can. I messaged her on SDM and she gave me her phone number. We had very brief conversation that consisted of "hi" "how are you?" "you're x old? She told me she hadn't had a manicure in a long time. I told her if we met up she would have money to do it. I'm not sure if it was at this point but I did make an offer of how much money to get together. A day or two passes and she texts me that she is free during the day and we should both go get mani-pedis. I state that I work during the day. A few days pass and she texts me that she needs to make a credit card payment and needs help doing it. She tells me it's only 300+ dollars and can I give her the money. I tell her if she comes over and we get together she will have the money to pay for it. I decide for kicks to text her a few days later that I think she is very hot and am very attracted to her. She said it doesn't seem like it since I haven't sent her any gifts or tips yet. I asked her gifts or tips for what?
On SDM you are allowed to leave public comments on someone's profile. I saw that another person left comments that all she did was keep asking him for pics and he believed the profile was fake. Her profile isn't fake as I did find her IG account on accident and I did mention something from her IG page to her to which she reached,"how did you find my IG?
Again avoid her. She is just another girl asking for money for nothing. IDK how the game got so out of wack with women expecting men to just randomly send them money.
I am very selective of my girls, preferring them to be young and beautiful, so this is a common risk for me. I will date girls in their mid to late 20's if they're very beautiful, but never past their early 30's. Gorgeous 18 year old dimes are my absolute ideal.
There is always a danger of minors pretending to be older than they are, so I *always* card them during preliminary conversations. Even if a POT claims to be in their early 20's, and *especially* when they state to be 18 or 19.
Early on in our texting, I'll ask them to send me a photo of their government issued identification, and if they cannot provide it, I don't move forward under any circumstances. It is better to take care of this at the beginning, rather than risk meeting a minor in any setting.
Many girls will cross out sensitive data such as their address, but I require their photo and date of birth remain visible. I'll also double check the identification number to be sure it's not a fake. Once everything looks kosher, I will firm up plans for a date.
I highly recommend everyone incorporate age verification when seeking out POTs. There are millions of delicious girls of lawful age to choose from. There is no need to put our freedom and our lives at risk.I'd offer that no one, least of all law enforcement and the media, will care that you asked for her identification, took a picture of it, got her SSN or anything else if you get popped for putting your pecker in a girl below the age of majority. Your life will be ruined, and saying she lied won't be much of a defense.
TheHuntsman
09-06-21, 11:00
https://www.seeking.com/member/f3ec5ad9-418b-4614-8b0a-af42720e4b95
I spoke with this young lady on SB. She straight out said she is looking for a PPM type of arrangement and said her average offer is 500. Who out there is just offering 500 to her and these other young women? Please stop. You're making it too hard on the rest of us.
Anyway, I told her that was out of my range. A few days later she messaged me that she had a friend that would take 300. I inquired about her friend, but she never replied. I will probably rant later about how annoying the lack of communication is from these girls.
TheHuntsman
09-06-21, 11:10
https://www.seeking.com/member/927f4d3d-cc3b-4382-8758-32652ad2410a
This is Bunny aka Natalie. This is a relatively new profile, but she has been on SA before. Her profile says she is Asian, but I could've sworn she was Latina. Anyway, we never met, but we did text for awhile and I would say to be cautious with her. When we first text she was asking for 300 and her profile only had a pic of her face. I asked for a body pic, but she said no and that when we meet I still have to pay her 300 even if I don't like her body. I eventually got body pics from her (nudes) and she has a nice little body actually. At the time she didn't have a car and said I would have to pick her up or uber her back and forth. She has a lot of drama in home life and is always hinting at the she needs some help even without meeting. She had told me that she had gotten into legal trouble and had to pay her bail or court fees. She went on SA looking for help and someone was nice enough to pay all her fees and didn't want anything in exchange but to be a mentor for her. Fast forward the guy wanted to meet up with her and role play daddy / daughter and she didn't like that and cut them off even after he paid off all her court fees.
FarFarAway
09-06-21, 12:26
https://www.seeking.com/member/f3ec5ad9-418b-4614-8b0a-af42720e4b95
I spoke with this young lady on SB. She straight out said she is looking for a PPM type of arrangement and said her average offer is 500. Who out there is just offering 500 to her and these other young women? Please stop. You're making it too hard on the rest of us.
Anyway, I told her that was out of my range. A few days later she messaged me that she had a friend that would take 300. I inquired about her friend, but she never replied. I will probably rant later about how annoying the lack of communication is from these girls.My common refrain, but if you are negotiating w / these girls online, you will get their 'escort' rate. If you really do want to treat them like an escort, that is what you should expect. If you are going to treat them like a SB, flatter them, promise them some future that may or may not exist, raise their hopes, get them thinking they might even enjoy spending time w / you, inside or outside of the sack, then you have a hope to get a more reasonable amount. I always do my negotiating face-to-face, people hate rejection, their ask will be less, and their take will be less. I know that profile, I've pretty much ignored her, she has been intermittent in even replying when I have messaged her. To me, that indicates she isn't really a pro, maybe she is uncertain if she could really go through w / it, and a high ask is one way to ensure she can engage in the fantasy of being a sugar baby without really having to confront the reality of what she's up to.
TheHuntsman
09-06-21, 12:30
My apologies to the group. I probably should've done this to begin with instead of making multiple posts. Below are a few brief interactions I've had with girls from SA and SB. Most of these girls seem to be asking for 500 which again is beyond my budget. I hope what little information I share helps when deciding on who to see.
https://www.seeking.com/member/18db70ce-535b-4172-909d-0389e7cd82b6
This is Bri. She used to live in Anaheim and currently lives out in the valley after having her bf's baby. Here is my review from my experience with her. Looks wise From her pics you can see she is a bit chubby. She was a little thick back when I used to see her, but obviously she put on additional weight from having a baby. Performance wise she was kinda lame. I only fucked her 1 x but received multiple blow jobs from her (which she allowed me to record). She doesn't like the taste of cum so no cumming in her mouth and she can be kind of a whiner when she begins to taste your pre-cum. With all that being said the only reason I saw her so many times was that, at the time, she was okay with only receiving 40 for head. This was no rush, chilling, talking, making out. So that made it worth it for me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a3db89e0-7fe9-472c-861e-4a7607bc5e76
Flaca. I spoke with her for awhile but did not meet. She is very political and supports BLM and the trans movement and other social causes. She jokingly asked if I would still like talking to her if she had a penis to which I said that I like my women to have a vagina. Her response was that you don't have to have a vagina to be a woman. She doesn't believe in shaving so she does not shave her pits or her vagina, but is willing to shave if you pay. She is also looking for 500 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d867f48c-ab03-4c1a-a8de-8cbabea7e0d3
Anna. She's been on SA for a few years. Actually think she looked prettier a few years ago. Is only able to meet during the day on the weekdays do to school, work and being married. Is asking for 400.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5b310be3-cdcf-442e-a259-24749a177d02
Jess messaged me on SB and said her minimum is 500.
https://www.seeking.com/member/18dad0aa-0f74-403d-956c-8c49ddedd82b
Lyssa. Spoke with her on SB. Her SB profile doesn't say platonic like her SA profile, but yeah definitely platonic and a waste of time. She told me her bf is okay with her having an SD as long as she doesn't send them nudes or any sex. I don't know what the hell they think is in it for the SD then, but yeah waste of time.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1321a20e-fa25-4168-9e6d-613be7b10972
Maggie. Spoke to her last year and she wanted 300. From the private pics she sent me she is a bit heavier than the photos online. Never pulled the trigger, although I had a weird incident with her. As I said never met up with her, but then contacted her online again after some time. Told her I still had her number and she said to text her. I text her and said, "Hi Maggie it's X from X" and the message I got back was how did you get "her" phone number?
https://www.seeking.com/member/6355271b-0119-4509-8cb2-d8e7caa36265
Lucy. Met up with her back when she was 18. She was a lot of fun! I haven't spoken to her in a few years, but at the time she was trying to get her GED and then move out of state. She is a bit of a chola / young hoodlum type, but as I said a lot of fun. Don't know what she is asking for now. If her price is reasonable then I would highly recommend her.
ShowMeHow23
09-06-21, 15:44
https://www.seeking.com/member/f3ec5ad9-418b-4614-8b0a-af42720e4b95
I spoke with this young lady on SB. She straight out said she is looking for a PPM type of arrangement and said her average offer is 500. Who out there is just offering 500 to her and these other young women? Please stop. You're making it too hard on the rest of us.
Anyway, I told her that was out of my range. A few days later she messaged me that she had a friend that would take 300. I inquired about her friend, but she never replied. I will probably rant later about how annoying the lack of communication is from these girls.Someone must be extremely desperate to want to pay $500 for that. I'm at $400 with one of my current SB's but at least that comes with all access pass and now, recordings. Chick is down for it all now.
TheHuntsman
09-06-21, 17:22
My common refrain, but if you are negotiating w / these girls online, you will get their 'escort' rate. If you really do want to treat them like an escort, that is what you should expect. If you are going to treat them like a SB, flatter them, promise them some future that may or may not exist, raise their hopes, get them thinking they might even enjoy spending time w / you, inside or outside of the sack, then you have a hope to get a more reasonable amount. I always do my negotiating face-to-face, people hate rejection, their ask will be less, and their take will be less. I know that profile, I've pretty much ignored her, she has been intermittent in even replying when I have messaged her. To me, that indicates she isn't really a pro, maybe she is uncertain if she could really go through w / it, and a high ask is one way to ensure she can engage in the fantasy of being a sugar baby without really having to confront the reality of what she's up to.I believe she is a pro. I told her I was looking for something fun and discrete and mutually beneficial. She then said ppm. I see you're also experiencing the huge delays in replying to messages. Yesterday a girl asked me to go see her and I said we haven't even talked. I'd prefer to get to know her a little before meeting. She then sent me her phone number and said text her. Sent her a text and nothing LOL.
TheHuntsman
09-06-21, 17:29
My apologies to the group. I probably should've done this to begin with instead of making multiple posts. Below are a few brief interactions I've had with girls from SA and SB. Most of these girls seem to be asking for 500 which again is beyond my budget. I hope what little information I share helps when deciding on who to see.
https://www.seeking.com/member/18db70ce-535b-4172-909d-0389e7cd82b6
This is Bri. She used to live in Anaheim and currently lives out in the valley after having her bf's baby. Here is my review from my experience with her. Looks wise From her pics you can see she is a bit chubby. She was a little thick back when I used to see her, but obviously she put on additional weight from having a baby. Performance wise she was kinda lame. I only fucked her 1 x but received multiple blow jobs from her (which she allowed me to record). She doesn't like the taste of cum so no cumming in her mouth and she can be kind of a whiner when she begins to taste your pre-cum. With all that being said the only reason I saw her so many times was that, at the time, she was okay with only receiving 40 for head. This was no rush, chilling, talking, making out. So that made it worth it for me.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a3db89e0-7fe9-472c-861e-4a7607bc5e76
Flaca. I spoke with her for awhile but did not meet. She is very political and supports BLM and the trans movement and other social causes. She jokingly asked if I would still like talking to her if she had a penis to which I said that I like my women to have a vagina. Her response was that you don't have to have a vagina to be a woman. She doesn't believe in shaving so she does not shave her pits or her vagina, but is willing to shave if you pay. She is also looking for 500 per meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d867f48c-ab03-4c1a-a8de-8cbabea7e0d3
Anna. She's been on SA for a few years. Actually think she looked prettier a few years ago. Is only able to meet during the day on the weekdays do to school, work and being married. Is asking for 400.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5b310be3-cdcf-442e-a259-24749a177d02
Jess messaged me on SB and said her minimum is 500.Came across Jess's IG and SC. I'm curious if she will ask for Jess on there vs sa and sb.
TheHuntsman
09-06-21, 19:47
Review of Sugar Daddy Sites:
Most of the posts on this forum are in regards to the use of Seeking Arrangement (SA), but since I was banned at the end of last year I've used both Sugar Daddy Meet (SDM) and Secret Benefits (SB). In no way am I a professional reviewer, but I will share my experiences with both these sites.
Sugar Daddy Meet (SDM).
Pros:
1. The billing process and overall cost. It's a monthly subscription that you can subscribe to thru the Google Play Store. I believe the price was about 64/ month. Less than SA's fee of 99/ mo. No other hidden fees.
Cons:
1. Must pay monthly subscription to access full features such as browsing profiles in your area. Without a monthly subscription you are not able to filter profiles and are basically left with browsing thru all profiles in all of Southern Cali.
2. Lack of real women. There are a lot of profiles but most seem fake. You will notice many profiles where they use both a first and last name. No one on any kind of dating site ever uses a first and last name as their profile name. It's very suspect.
Experience:
I met a few ladies from the site so they are out there and are willing to meet and have a good time. On SA you will get a few messages from girls located in other countries or will notice them adding you to their favorites. On SDM instead of them being from out of the country they are usually from out of state (or so they claim). I also received a lot of messages from girls trying to set up online relationships and even going so far as asking me to send them money after replying to their message. As if we have now begun interacting with each other LOL.
Secret Benefits (SB).
Pros:
1. Verified video feature. On SA you are able to have your profile verified thru your social media. For SB a profile can be verified thru them holding up a picture with the date and SB written on it or in a video. The video feature is great because you get a better sense of what they look like instead of a picture with great lighting, good angles or a filter.
Cons:
1. Billing process and extra costs. Instead of a monthly subscription you have to buy tokens. They are sold as 200 tokens for 89,500 for 169 and one more tier but can't remember the cost. If you see a profile you like and decide to send a message that will cost you 10 tokens. Once your message is sent you can exchange unlimited messages with this person. If someone initiates communication with you first it's locked and will cost 10 tokens to read it. Again afterwards unlimited messages with this person. Like SA there are private albums. To access a private album you have to request it and once granted permission it costs 10 tokens to view it. You can also send and receive photos while messaging, but again this costs tokens. If a picture is sent to you it's locked and you must unlock it by using 10 tokens, BUT if you send a picture there is no notice that it just cost you 10 tokens.
Experience:
Like SDM there are real girls on there and I have met a few and had a good time. Although I am very suspicious of the site and its costs. I receive quiet a number of messages from girls, but once I reply to them they do not continue the conversation. Also I have never requested to view anyone's private photos, but almost every girl who I have messaged has sent me their private photos to view. Again to view these photos it's another 10 tokens. Basically I receive a message from a girl. Unlock it for 10 tokens. Send reply to them. Nothing. But then receive permission to view their private photos for 10 more tokens. Or if I initiate the communication I will again receive permission to view their private photos, but with no response to my message. Also I notice in a majority of profiles on SB the girls say they are looking for weekly dinner dates, shopping and mentoring. It feels like I see that more on SB than on SA or SDM. Not sure why the girls on SB seem to use the same phrases. Again it makes me suspicious of the site.
Overall I still prefer SA to SDM and SB. Although there is an overlap of girls using all 3 sites, but the girls always seem to be more active on SA than their other profiles. Anyway that's my somewhat brief experience with using those sites. Sorry for all the posts recently but it's been a boring weekend for me.
FirstClass1
09-07-21, 00:29
https://www.seeking.com/member/f3ec5ad9-418b-4614-8b0a-af42720e4b95
I spoke with this young lady on SB. She straight out said she is looking for a PPM type of arrangement and said her average offer is 500. Who out there is just offering 500 to her and these other young women? Please stop. You're making it too hard on the rest of us.
Anyway, I told her that was out of my range. A few days later she messaged me that she had a friend that would take 300. I inquired about her friend, but she never replied. I will probably rant later about how annoying the lack of communication is from these girls.Wow. She's not pretty at all. She can take 100 or leave it.
FirstClass1
09-07-21, 03:09
I'd offer that no one, least of all law enforcement and the media, will care that you asked for her identification, took a picture of it, got her SSN or anything else if you get popped for putting your pecker in a girl below the age of majority. Your life will be ruined, and saying she lied won't be much of a defense.Agreed, that's a situation no one wants to be in. It's a lot easier to accurately confirm a girl's age and identity today than say 30 years ago, thanks to people search engines, social media, plus knowing what to look for during preliminary interactions. Porn producers today shoot content with 18+ year old all the time, and there have been no major incidents in a long while.
That being said, always trust your instincts. If there's any reason to doubt, never go through with it.
Uncountable
09-07-21, 03:59
These are exactly the kinds of women that led me to SA in the first place. They are both real from my investigation. I am tempted to re-subscribe just to try my luck with these women; I know without a shred of a doubt that they-especially the Asian one-will ask for at least $800, and honestly, I'll pay it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/aaa95c30-d1ca-493c-a767-25f8f2e745fe
https://www.seeking.com/member/d164f930-c2ae-4027-8ae1-126cc06e1828
Shout outs to First-class for that 33% discount. SA only offered me 25% labor day sale. Created a burner tho so I could provide links to blocked accounts and they offered 33% to the burner WTF. Glad I only did a month tho. Almost pulled the trigger for 3. Still got a couple pots from the last time I signed up but haven't met them yet. Both are at $400 but bbfscip msog tho.
Anyways, here's some updates. Think next time I sign up on SA again I'm going to create a fresh account because I've already messaged a lot of profiles from before with no response. Maybe I need a better opener or something or they just don't bother because I say I don't do online or payments before meeting on my profile. Figured it'll save me time on scammers or keep them away. Could be that I'm honest about my net worth / annual income as well tho which is 100 k+ for both and also like the lowest option. But as usual, I just start spam messaging every girl I'd consider smashing and go from there. Ill try and provide info along the way.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7ac0e847-5b72-4758-9703-56c6b0de594f
Otherwise known as brookeviolett on HX. Recognized the tat. Never seen her from hx tho due to GPS rates. Got her number but haven't established a ppm yet. Prob be GPS as well considering her current HX rates.
https://www.seeking.com/member/114fc0cc-d614-4dda-8a23-5c82261ce0a0
Another hx account. Think one of the baby crews but forgot the handle. Either way booker never responds to inquiry on HX. Hopefully I can meet her through SA but no response yet tho.
https://www.seeking.com/member/72417b1f-ee9d-4d3d-86c8-e3fb7dc737be
Her response was "$300 for an hr. Includes foreplay and intercourse. $100 foreplay" surprised she hasn't gotten banned yet. Guess SA only goes after SDs. Texted her and she said the foreplay is basically head. +$50 for cim / swallow. Said she had a couple kids so there's stretch marks. Prob won't partake. Maybe some head. She's open to bbfscip tho. Just got to bring a plan b.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ba6e6672-8d3d-47b4-89ea-b84fd043e991
Messaged her with my boring standard copy and pasted message. She responds, "Dude you've been messaging every girl. " uh. Yea its a numbers game. Was I only suppose to only message you? And how could she even have known? I believe its a scam account. What girl uses "dude. " Prob really a dude on the other end but who knows.
https://www.seeking.com/member/020f9e2e-5f34-4a9e-a9d3-12bce7dda491
Stated her ppm was 700, countered 4 and then she blocked me. Wondering if she was connected to the account above.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5961d002-2c71-40ff-b231-0fce1298bdd0 kiwi.
Asked if she was open to an arrangement. That's it, no offer yet or anything. Her response "I'm not your baby. How are you going to afford me when my income is higher than yours? Go put that money into your 401 k. You're welcome for free financial advice you never got. " and then blocked me. Damn. What a c*nt. Wondering if she was connected as well. Honestly don't think she's that cute either if I'm being objective. Hope somebody here can COF for me if she's real LOL. And I'd be willing to bet 99.9% of the SBs aren't making 100 K / yr. F that b*tch, or scramming ass dude most likely.
https://www.seeking.com/member/844d3266-feea-4f51-93e3-97dcdec84c5c
Wanted $1 k ppm. Yea f-ing right. Told her that's a hard ask with no face pic and maybe if she was instafamous LOL. I would drop that high if they were model status with a huge following tho and if the menu was right tbh. Pics look sketchy. Red flags there.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7e4536ed-30cf-4155-a373-b3d86f64ba14
Been posted here before but she now has GPS. Wanted 1. 5 k for an overnight and honestly I would have done it because damn she is banging, instafamous, and ideal body type (slim thick w / a rack). However she wanted payments upfront before the fun so I just couldn't take that ride. Payments are after the meet always, never before. Learned my lesson on that multiple times unfortunately.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2664ed7c-1391-413c-8d9f-e0362d227597
GPS. Asked for 6, I said maybe 4 for an overnight. She replied "lmao" and that was the end of that haha.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5719f8c7-21aa-4ebb-89c9-68eeb619ad4f
Online only. Most likely a scam. Why would I buy pics / vids from you over snapchat? Don't even got an only fans. I don't do only fans but that signals to me that the account is just stealing pics / vids and flippin it to suckers. Pics look a bit fake.
https://www.seeking.com/member/adbd0456-440f-486f-8a02-ccb7697fcdb9
Another one of those "add me on snapchat," and their snapchat is one of those buy my premium if you want to meet. Scammmm.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c60cba28-4bd9-4455-bf03-edfab9de1afc
Met her for $350 bbfscip msog. One and done for me. Nice butt but body a little thicker than I like. BJ nothing to write home about. She's open to overnights tho. Nice girl but not my cup of tea.
https://www.seeking.com/member/56be90de-bf27-4132-99eb-544e8fd422c6
Said her ppm was $400. Didn't see what was on the menu. Face isn't that cute for me. Prob won't partake. Ill take face over body almost always.
Been thinking about going back to HX but a bit tough since I have no network and its slim pickings that are newbie friendly that I find attractive. I'm kinda picky, and also prefer BBFS and daty on girls that's not high mileage. Almost saw Ami4 you since she was having a $250 BBFS special but just couldn't do it because she looks old af and not cute at all. Easy 20 years on top of her stated age at 25. I feel like I'm pretty good at telling other Asians age LOL. Maybe I should just start hitting up k houses instead if I'm offering up to 4 but apprehensive about the screening process, fake ages / pics, and giving out my I'd / info. Also like to take my time. Feel an hour is rushed sometimes too if they are hot. If they aren't hot then an hour is plenty and won't care for msog but then I'll have buyers remorse lmao. Yea I can do hh but if I'm driving out I'd rather just do an hr. Keep waiting for Larissadee to return for me to finally meet but she's been Mia for awhile. Babycrew never responds back either. Thinking about seeing kimberly6969 but just haven't gotten around to it. Woulda saw Bbunny but never pulled the trigger when her hr was at 280, now its at 450. Learning now to catch them while you can because who knows how much longer they'll be around or when rates go up.
TheHuntsman
09-07-21, 17:25
As I reported yesterday I am suspicious of some of the profiles on SB and the whole private photos.
Last night I sent a message to a girl I was interested in, but she didn't message back. Went to check private photo album area of my profile and saw that they had given me access to their album. I'm really starting to believe that SB is trying to get people to purchase more tokens with this method.
ShowMeHow23
09-07-21, 22:45
As I reported yesterday I am suspicious of some of the profiles on SB and the whole private photos.
Last night I sent a message to a girl I was interested in, but she didn't message back. Went to check private photo album area of my profile and saw that they had given me access to their album. I'm really starting to believe that SB is trying to get people to purchase more tokens with this method.Yep. Definitely a tactic I've noticed on that site. She'll say "hey", you'll open to respond, it'll go silent, and days later they'll allow secret photo album access. You'll get suckered in. That site is not good.
Think about trying seeking for a month. Do the girls need premium as well to respond back? If not, best way is to send email in message right?
TheHuntsman
09-08-21, 00:20
Yep. Definitely a tactic I've noticed on that site. She'll say "hey", you'll open to respond, it'll go silent, and days later they'll allow secret photo album access. You'll get suckered in. That site is not good.Yeah, I got a message from a woman that's not really my type but decided to unlock it. Her message said something like. I am beautiful with stunning eyes. I thought WTF?! I just wasted 10 tokens on a girl telling me she has pretty eyes.
OcasianBoy
09-08-21, 22:01
https://www.seeking.com/member/97447e85-9ed9-4dd9-bf97-ca7b91c1cf6a
This one seems like a pro and wants to meet right away. She wants 1 k ppm. I said no and later on she said 8 benz is the lowest. Looks good but no way I'm paying that.
TheHuntsman
09-09-21, 00:33
https://www.seeking.com/member/97447e85-9ed9-4dd9-bf97-ca7b91c1cf6a
This one seems like a pro and wants to meet right away. She wants 1 k ppm. I said no and later on she said 8 benz is the lowest. Looks good but no way I'm paying that.Me personally I don't message any woman with only 1 pic. Also her profile says ethnicity mixed and the what she's looking for section is blank. Maybe it's just me, I know mixed ethnicity can be a lot of things, but I swear I see a lot of mixed profiles where the girls look white or latina. And the what they're looking for section is blank. Maybe I'm dumb or paranoid but I just feel those profiles are scams.
Yep. Definitely a tactic I've noticed on that site. She'll say "hey", you'll open to respond, it'll go silent, and days later they'll allow secret photo album access. You'll get suckered in. That site is not good.And, yet, it's the only site that I've managed to actually find and engage an SB / SD relationship at. It only lasted a couple months, but it at least happened. I haven't found any success at SA, yet, or else I've just keep running into fake profiles there.
TheHuntsman
09-09-21, 10:22
And, yet, it's the only site that I've managed to actually find and engage an SB / SD relationship at. It only lasted a couple months, but it at least happened. I haven't found any success at SA, yet, or else I've just keep running into fake profiles there.I've met girls off all 3 sites but have had way better results on SA.
The current girl I'm seeing, the relic, is from SB. And previously my girl J was from there too.
ScConnoisseur3
09-09-21, 14:20
And, yet, it's the only site that I've managed to actually find and engage an SB / SD relationship at. It only lasted a couple months, but it at least happened. I haven't found any success at SA, yet, or else I've just keep running into fake profiles there.Hello, I've had some success on SA a couple of years ago. Haven't been on there in awhile but I just signed up again and I have one meet with a young AA girl tomorrow afternoon. And another set up for Sunday with a 19 yr old latina. They might flake but it's part of the game.
Don't get me wrong I've had to sort through and text dozens of girls but we'll see how it goes. Like others have said, it's a numbers game, both in how many girls you message and how much you're willing to offer.
For $$ or $$$ I think you have plenty to choose from. I'm always below $$ and it takes awhile to find someone but sometimes things just fall into place. And the right girl just comes around just in time.
Me personally I don't message any woman with only 1 pic. Also her profile says ethnicity mixed and the what she's looking for section is blank. Maybe it's just me, I know mixed ethnicity can be a lot of things, but I swear I see a lot of mixed profiles where the girls look white or latina. And the what they're looking for section is blank. Maybe I'm dumb or paranoid but I just feel those profiles are scams.I messaged and she / he sent me a pic. Google image search showed it was Ruslana Gee, an instagram / youtube star. Highly doubt she needs to be on SA. Scam. Be careful out there fellas. Once again never pay before meeting, no deposits, and no paying for meet and greets. None of that half first half later BS either.
Had a SB before that had only one pic without her face showing. Just got to confirm they are real first through other means like facetime or social media.
https://www.seeking.com/member/69148d77-3b03-4c0e-8fb5-88c0a4173d02
Never met but can do 300 ppm, maybe lower. Lot older than what the age says tho. Claims she's turning 29, I'm thinking maybe 39. A lot thicker too. Open to cfs, swallow, and Greek depending on size. Most likely a pro because she got a hotel room.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d49ce723-d53e-49f6-a76d-1582f031a204
1 k. Countered 4. Said she was open to that but "like any smart business transaction full payment up front. Older men know and respect this boldness from me. " rarely is that a smart business transaction, and maybe naive boomers that ended up getting conned. Scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3d952565-7ebe-444c-8bae-c4552c63e588
GPS. 450. Countered 2. Wasn't about it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7d3aba7c-7f12-4894-9b9d-4ca38915d3ae
"required a 30 dollar fee" for idk what. Pass. Probably a scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/88a79fc8-e51f-46aa-9baa-2ab7c43f8d4d
500 to just meet. GPS.
https://www.seeking.com/member/260acef7-89a4-409d-8d03-a7c4ebf852f2
GPS. Seeking 5 K a month and claims she has suitors in this area. If that's true her suitors have shitty tastes. With that amount you can get way higher quality / looks. And I doubt anyone did it hence the term "suitors. ".
https://www.seeking.com/member/af1f2baf-0dda-431b-921b-08971561c878
GPS. Looking for 4 k monthly to meet 1-2 x weekly. Same as above. If you could drop that much you can get much better.
https://www.seeking.com/member/39e58e73-07a1-42dd-9080-2e339f35ba1f
One of those snapchat profiles that try to get you to buy their OF or premium. Funny thing is its not even of her. Its some like VR shit. Crazy talk. Waste of time.
https://www.seeking.com/member/994dd15d-f37c-413f-9eee-a1f0b0e15f64
Asked if I compensated for a platonic meet and greet. Hell no I don't. Looks like a fake / scam regardless.
https://www.seeking.com/member/112828e4-097b-44f0-876a-bccff28c4f30
Seems real. Asked for 4-5 ppm. Countered 3 and was down. No BBFS tho so I didn't bother. I can just go to HX for cuter / hotter girls if that's the case.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a6d82bd2-5318-48ef-95c0-91e2edd52157
Said 100/ hr, 2 hr minimum. Communication broke off. Las Vegas area code. Shoot your shot but seems TGTBT.
https://www.seeking.com/member/99ba8018-0b7c-4687-a4bf-61cbc567bba9
Her: "Can we just be friends without the benefits & I can get paid. " uh. No.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5719f8c7-21aa-4ebb-89c9-68eeb619ad4f
Online only. Pics have that fake kinda vibe. Most likely a fake or scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/04143e48-f6dd-47f8-92e2-f13131905342
Asking 5. Countered 3. I'm guessing she's a stripper with the pic of the lockers. Strippers are already dangerous meets in themselves as they aren't new to the game. I got conned once by a duo listening to the wrong head.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a053f212-3752-49df-9ade-2421e2881f1e
GPS. Asking 5.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8f3cd55c-6160-45ee-a2e1-2d3c58c36a59
Not even in la. Claims shell be back Oct. Got to take her out to dinner first. Sounds like a rinser.
https://www.seeking.com/member/33e1d78a-205a-47d4-8dc2-f8a74496229c
Claims she's a virgin and 300 to just meet. Calling bs.
https://www.seeking.com/member/54fb51c5-397f-40ef-a506-047241da8570
Gl with this one. Tried but she wouldn't send a pic and just kept wasting my time. Profile pic seems a bit fake.
https://www.seeking.com/member/28281c13-ef90-48ae-ae0e-70c497715ecf
Claims she'll be back in Oct. Convo ended when I wouldn't give her my whatsapp because I don't feel comfortable giving out my info. Never go to an offer but vibes seemed off tho. Don't think she's real.
https://www.seeking.com/member/de1970e8-08e6-643c-708a-3d8b98cc9ce3
GPS. Asking 6.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ace850c4-a5aa-4bec-9dad-b198177d9cda
Tried to get me to pay for her bday nails. Most likely a scam.
Noticed a couple trends are asking if you compensate on the first platonic meet / date from diff profiles. All had like the same wording. These are def scams. Another is claiming they've had a prior ppm / arrangement at a certain price (usually 700) and looking for the same. These girls all have gps as well because if you could drop that you could be getting solid 8/10 to potentially 10/10.
FarFarAway
09-10-21, 00:17
I messaged and she / he sent me a pic. Google image search showed it was Ruslana Gee, an instagram / youtube star. Highly doubt she needs to be on SA. Scam. Be careful out there fellas. Once again never pay before meeting, no deposits, and no paying for meet and greets. None of that half first half later BS either.
Had a SB before that had only one pic without her face showing. Just got to confirm they are real first through other means like facetime or social media.IK you are new here, perhaps not to SA or sugar bowl. I would just say if you are negotiating online you're only ever going to get her highest price as if you are the worst creep she's ever met. I never do it, I get quality, trustworthy SBs out of the deal. I am sure I don't get your volume, but I don't have a lot of time for sugar anyway, I work full time and have a YF at home.
TheHuntsman
09-10-21, 12:01
IK you are new here, perhaps not to SA or sugar bowl. I would just say if you are negotiating online you're only ever going to get her highest price as if you are the worst creep she's ever met. I never do it, I get quality, trustworthy SBs out of the deal. I am sure I don't get your volume, but I don't have a lot of time for sugar anyway, I work full time and have a YF at home.May I ask your approach? I usually negotiate over text but I have a tendency to get right to what I want. But other times I take a longer approach to getting to know them. Or just depends on my mood.
TheHuntsman
09-10-21, 12:35
https://www.seeking.com/member/1f439e79-f540-4087-a7c4-52d722e25301
I think this girl is so sexy. Unfortunately I'm banned on SA. I've tried messaging her on IG but she never reads my messages. I'm pretty sure it goes to her spam folder. I know she's out of state for college but would kill to hook up with her when she comes home to visit.
Anyone any luck let me know LOL. Also from what I've heard from her friend is that maybe she only wants online but for all I know she doesn't want her friend to know the details.
FarFarAway
09-10-21, 16:25
May I ask your approach? I usually negotiate over text but I have a tendency to get right to what I want. But other times I take a longer approach to getting to know them. Or just depends on my mood.If you just want an escort, UTR, but still, that's how you get it. You have to do a M&G if you want something other than her top dollar. I discuss it there. Along w / everything about safe sex, preferences, if she's submissive, etc. I think the meet can be sexy, and as HWG says, if you get them into your car, you have to kiss them (or order them to kiss you, if they are submissive). It is the art of seduction if she's not an escort.
I just did this the other day, w / an older gal I met. Getting into my car, her skirt split and showed her legs. When I got in on the other side, I went right for it, putting my hand up the skirt on the crotch of her panties. It took just a few minutes before she lifted up and pulled the panties off so I could finger her. We're making out, etc. She would have taken me to her place if I had had the time. She wasn't a great find, average / thick body but nice face, and smart / nice. But I'll fuck her and defile her, she's sub. We don't actually have a $ agreement at this time, but I am sure I can get her for 300 initially, and less if she is good enough to repeat.
TheHuntsman
09-10-21, 19:27
If you just want an escort, UTR, but still, that's how you get it. You have to do a M&G if you want something other than her top dollar. I discuss it there. Along w / everything about safe sex, preferences, if she's submissive, etc. I think the meet can be sexy, and as HWG says, if you get them into your car, you have to kiss them (or order them to kiss you, if they are submissive). It is the art of seduction if she's not an escort.
I just did this the other day, w / an older gal I met. Getting into my car, her skirt split and showed her legs. When I got in on the other side, I went right for it, putting my hand up the skirt on the crotch of her panties. It took just a few minutes before she lifted up and pulled the panties off so I could finger her. We're making out, etc. She would have taken me to her place if I had had the time. She wasn't a great find, average / thick body but nice face, and smart / nice. But I'll fuck her and defile her, she's sub. We don't actually have a $ agreement at this time, but I am sure I can get her for 300 initially, and less if she is good enough to repeat.I've been doing SA for the last few years and tbh I have only ever had 3 M&G and only 1 led to anything. Usually my first meeting involves sex in some form. Idk if it's a vibe thing but depending on the girl we can be texting for a bit before meeting.
IK you are new here, perhaps not to SA or sugar bowl. I would just say if you are negotiating online you're only ever going to get her highest price as if you are the worst creep she's ever met. I never do it, I get quality, trustworthy SBs out of the deal. I am sure I don't get your volume, but I don't have a lot of time for sugar anyway, I work full time and have a YF at home.Volume as in the simple spammed messages I send out yea. As far as actually going through with one, extremely slim (like 1% at best). I don't have a lot of time either, plus my car and living situation kinda wack. Yea I could take them out and get a room, but then that becomes an additional cost / time and possibly sets a precedent for the future as well. I agree you'd might get the best deal meet and greet, but I'm not really trying to go through all that tbh, and most of them aren't anyways. I just cast a wide net and then start whittling down whatever comes in. Most times its just sorting through fakes, robs, GPS, or just getting someone acceptable to continue communicating and establishing something offline. Depending on the responses and vibes I get, I'll approach it however seems fit. Even once somethings been established, many times I don't go through with it because I lose interest, busy, tired, or they flake out as well (prob for a better offer).
Hell, I prob shouldn't even be in the bowl tbh. Relatively young and by no means an established SD. At best a fwb ha! I should be using sb money to save for a house / new car and be investing if anything so I can better position myself for the future. 1 sb now could prob be like 5-10 sbs later in like 10 years or something if that makes sense LOL. My whole thing with SA was more so just seeing a civi instead of a pro. And you can figure out who's who already within the first few messages most of the time. If I'm already paying like 3-400 for a young attractive pro for only an hr, I might as well test my luck at finding a civi with less mileage that's down for BBFS and to spend longer than an hr I guess. Will adjust offer according to what's offered, time and attractiveness, but I've never gone over 400 yet. There were times where I woulda went way over, but just didn't end up happening for whatever reason on them or me.
FarFarAway
09-11-21, 16:52
I've been doing SA for the last few years and tbh I have only ever had 3 M&G and only 1 led to anything. Usually my first meeting involves sex in some form. Idk if it's a vibe thing but depending on the girl we can be texting for a bit before meeting.Seriously? I have been in the bowl since 2016. I have had like 3 dozen girls + from SA. I have had 3 durable arrangements that lasted 6+ months each. I have also had some I have FCed only once, for a variety of reasons. I've paid 600 once for a date, I've paid as little as a $25 gift card. Most of my girls have been high quality. I am all about the risk / reward, and for me, getting as much high quality pussy as I can is the key. My budget currently is over 1000/ mo for the sugar, plus other expenses. It is all I can keep hidden from the YF.
TheHuntsman
09-11-21, 21:18
Seriously? I have been in the bowl since 2016. I have had like 3 dozen girls + from SA. I have had 3 durable arrangements that lasted 6+ months each. I have also had some I have FCed only once, for a variety of reasons. I've paid 600 once for a date, I've paid as little as a $25 gift card. Most of my girls have been high quality. I am all about the risk / reward, and for me, getting as much high quality pussy as I can is the key. My budget currently is over 1000/ mo for the sugar, plus other expenses. It is all I can keep hidden from the YF.When I said only 3 M&G that meant just for that. I've met a lot from SA. I just don't ever do the M&G. Usually everything is hammered out over texts. I've only had 2 long term things with girls from SA. Both were 3 yrs each and were actually at the same time. Usually like it said it's hook up a few times and then move on.
Here it is if anyone wants to get 33% off:
http://links.email.seeking.com/ctt?ms=MTkxNTQ2MjgS1&kn=4&r=NDcyNTQ3MDE3MTM3S0&b=0&j=MjIwMDIyMTE5NgS2&mt=1&rt=0I know I just missed out but if anyone has any specials for SA I would appreciate it. I'm in no hurry to get back on SA but I would like to repeat my last years Pacific Nortwest / Utah roadtrip that I basically lined up a SB in every stop while snowboarding. I'm tired of these LA chicks expecting a used car for a MnG. When you can travel a bit, visit new places, and have a baby lined up for $$$ or less. My favorite was a hot Mormon chick that I met up while in DT Salt Lake City who was down to drink and party but due to her religious beliefs can't have sex😂128514;. But man she gave some really awesome toe curling head with multiples for $. 5.
So if anyone has any coupon codes send them my way. But don't let these LA wannabe babies trap you with their BS allowance requirements.
TheHuntsman
09-12-21, 15:17
Earlier this year I met this girl named Desire from SDM. I haven't seen her profile on there since we met, but I would avoid her. She's a nut case. I am attaching photos so you can see what she looks like.
We first spoke and she said how she was a lesbian but how her gf cheated on her and she wanted to fuck a dude. At first we didn't click 'because she was asking too much but then she lowered her asking price from 500 to 300. We were supposed to meet up before work at a motel. This was kind of last minute and I was looking up a motel the night before. Through miscommunication she didn't show up. We then agreed to try it again. Again she didn't show up but I got a text from her "cousin" claiming that Desire's ex gf found out and they got into a fight. Let me add that she was still living with her ex gf as she had no where else to live as she was originally from Texas but was only here for college. Finally we attempted to meet up a 3rd time and this was successful and we fucked. She said how she liked me and if I gave her a little time she would pay me back the 300. She then started getting really weird. She was flirting with me in texts and then got upset that I never called her babe or baby in texts. She then had a doctors appointment and said she needed money to pay for it. I told her no I wasn't giving her the money for it. She then got all upset. A day later I got a text from her "cousin" again claiming that Desire tried to kill herself after our last conversation. Desire was then released from the hospital a few days later and messaged me. A few days went by and she said she found out her mom (who's on Texas) just died from covid and that she needed 400 for a plane ticket. She didn't ask me for it, but was talking about how she was trying to sell her camera and notebook to get the money. Apparently no one was buying so she eventually asked me for the money. I said no. A few days passed and she said she had to leave that day to make the funeral and that she would even come to my job to give me the notebook if I gave her the money for the ticket so she could catch her flight. Again I told her no. That was the last I heard from her up until a few weeks ago. I got a request for some money from her on cashapp, but I declined it. A few days passed and she text me that she had the money to pay me back. I told her send to me on cashapp and she said didn't have a bank account so she could only give me the money face-to-face. I never replied back and haven't heard from her since. That's as a brief of a summary that I can provide. But as I said she started getting really crazy after we hooked up. I would definitely avoid her.
So, my SB have been finally let me CIP a couple times we've met but she would joke about pregnancy randomly the last 2 months when we go to dinner. She don't look pregnant. Is she just saying that to discourage CIP or just joking about it or she really has my baby?
TheHuntsman
09-12-21, 17:24
So, my SB have been finally let me CIP a couple times we've met but she would joke about pregnancy randomly the last 2 months when we go to dinner. She don't look pregnant. Is she just saying that to discourage CIP or just joking about it or she really has my baby?I met a girl on SA who used to let me go raw all the time. She had a little poof in her stomach and she would joke it was the baby. Really it was just her body type plus she loved to eat. I can joke about anything, but that's where I draw the line. I told her please don't joke about that.
Just be straight up with this girl about of she's joking. Is she on bc?
FirstClass1
09-12-21, 19:15
Earlier this year I met this girl named Desire from SDM. I haven't seen her profile on there since we met, but I would avoid her. She's a nut case. I am attaching photos so you can see what she looks like.
We first spoke and she said how she was a lesbian but how her gf cheated on her and she wanted to fuck a dude. At first we didn't click 'because she was asking too much but then she lowered her asking price from 500 to 300. We were supposed to meet up before work at a motel. This was kind of last minute and I was looking up a motel the night before. Through miscommunication she didn't show up. We then agreed to try it again. Again she didn't show up but I got a text from her "cousin" claiming that Desire's ex gf found out and they got into a fight. Let me add that she was still living with her ex gf as she had no where else to live as she was originally from Texas but was only here for college. Finally we attempted to meet up a 3rd time and this was successful and we fucked. She said how she liked me and if I gave her a little time she would pay me back the 300. She then started getting really weird. She was flirting with me in texts and then got upset that I never called her babe or baby in texts. She then had a doctors appointment and said she needed money to pay for it. I told her no I wasn't giving her the money for it. She then got all upset. A day later I got a text from her "cousin" again claiming that Desire tried to kill herself after our last conversation. Desire was then released from the hospital a few days later and messaged me. A few days went by and she said she found out her mom (who's on Texas) just died from covid and that she needed 400 for a plane ticket. She didn't ask me for it, but was talking about how she was trying to sell her camera and notebook to get the money. Apparently no one was buying so she eventually asked me for the money. I said no. A few days passed and she said she had to leave that day to make the funeral and that she would even come to my job to give me the notebook if I gave her the money for the ticket so she could catch her flight. Again I told her no. That was the last I heard from her up until a few weeks ago. I got a request for some money from her on cashapp, but I declined it. A few days passed and she text me that she had the money to pay me back. I told her send to me on cashapp and she said didn't have a bank account so she could only give me the money face-to-face. I never replied back and haven't heard from her since. That's as a brief of a summary that I can provide. But as I said she started getting really crazy after we hooked up. I would definitely avoid her.Thanks for sharing. This is exactly where using a phone app and good OpSec is essential. To cut off basket cases and shake off other degenerates as may be needed.
FirstClass1
09-12-21, 20:18
This one wants 6000 a month, but would also do $500 per date. She's your typical shallow GPS, but you will take your creampie:
https://www.seeking.com/member/fc606d89-0fd0-46bb-bef9-32d06b119172
So, my SB have been finally let me CIP a couple times we've met but she would joke about pregnancy randomly the last 2 months when we go to dinner. She don't look pregnant. Is she just saying that to discourage CIP or just joking about it or she really has my baby?How on earth would we know what she's doing? Either stop filling her up with baby batter or get a vasectomy. I take people at their word, and this would be red flashing light.
https://www.seeking.com/member/69148d77-3b03-4c0e-8fb5-88c0a4173d02
Never met but can do 300 ppm, maybe lower. Lot older than what the age says tho. Claims she's turning 29, I'm thinking maybe 39. A lot thicker too. Open to cfs, swallow, and Greek depending on size. Most likely a pro because she got a hotel room.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d49ce723-d53e-49f6-a76d-1582f031a204
1 k. Countered 4. Said she was open to that but "like any smart business transaction full payment up front. Older men know and respect this boldness from me. " rarely is that a smart business transaction, and maybe naive boomers that ended up getting conned. Scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3d952565-7ebe-444c-8bae-c4552c63e588
GPS. 450. Countered 2. Wasn't about it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7d3aba7c-7f12-4894-9b9d-4ca38915d3ae
"required a 30 dollar fee" for idk what. Pass. Probably a scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/88a79fc8-e51f-46aa-9baa-2ab7c43f8d4d
500 to just meet. GPS.
https://www.seeking.com/member/260acef7-89a4-409d-8d03-a7c4ebf852f2
GPS. Seeking 5 K a month and claims she has suitors in this area. If that's true her suitors have shitty tastes. With that amount you can get way higher quality / looks. And I doubt anyone did it hence the term "suitors. ".
https://www.seeking.com/member/af1f2baf-0dda-431b-921b-08971561c878
GPS. Looking for 4 k monthly to meet 1-2 x weekly. Same as above. If you could drop that much you can get much better.
https://www.seeking.com/member/39e58e73-07a1-42dd-9080-2e339f35ba1f
One of those snapchat profiles that try to get you to buy their OF or premium. Funny thing is its not even of her. Its some like VR shit. Crazy talk. Waste of time.
https://www.seeking.com/member/994dd15d-f37c-413f-9eee-a1f0b0e15f64
Asked if I compensated for a platonic meet and greet. Hell no I don't. Looks like a fake / scam regardless.
https://www.seeking.com/member/112828e4-097b-44f0-876a-bccff28c4f30
Seems real. Asked for 4-5 ppm. Countered 3 and was down. No BBFS tho so I didn't bother. I can just go to HX for cuter / hotter girls if that's the case.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a6d82bd2-5318-48ef-95c0-91e2edd52157
Said 100/ hr, 2 hr minimum. Communication broke off. Las Vegas area code. Shoot your shot but seems TGTBT.
https://www.seeking.com/member/99ba8018-0b7c-4687-a4bf-61cbc567bba9
Her: "Can we just be friends without the benefits & I can get paid. " uh. No.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5719f8c7-21aa-4ebb-89c9-68eeb619ad4f
Online only. Pics have that fake kinda vibe. Most likely a fake or scam.
https://www.seeking.com/member/04143e48-f6dd-47f8-92e2-f13131905342
Asking 5. Countered 3. I'm guessing she's a stripper with the pic of the lockers. Strippers are already dangerous meets in themselves as they aren't new to the game. I got conned once by a duo listening to the wrong head.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a053f212-3752-49df-9ade-2421e2881f1e
GPS. Asking 5.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8f3cd55c-6160-45ee-a2e1-2d3c58c36a59
Not even in la. Claims shell be back Oct. Got to take her out to dinner first. Sounds like a rinser.
https://www.seeking.com/member/33e1d78a-205a-47d4-8dc2-f8a74496229c
Claims she's a virgin and 300 to just meet. Calling bs.
https://www.seeking.com/member/54fb51c5-397f-40ef-a506-047241da8570
Gl with this one. Tried but she wouldn't send a pic and just kept wasting my time. Profile pic seems a bit fake.
https://www.seeking.com/member/28281c13-ef90-48ae-ae0e-70c497715ecf
Claims she'll be back in Oct. Convo ended when I wouldn't give her my whatsapp because I don't feel comfortable giving out my info. Never go to an offer but vibes seemed off tho. Don't think she's real.
https://www.seeking.com/member/de1970e8-08e6-643c-708a-3d8b98cc9ce3
GPS. Asking 6.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ace850c4-a5aa-4bec-9dad-b198177d9cda
Tried to get me to pay for her bday nails. Most likely a scam.
Noticed a couple trends are asking if you compensate on the first platonic meet / date from diff profiles. All had like the same wording. These are def scams. Another is claiming they've had a prior ppm / arrangement at a certain price (usually 700) and looking for the same. These girls all have gps as well because if you could drop that you could be getting solid 8/10 to potentially 10/10.Thanks for the intel that definitely help.
ShowMeHow23
09-12-21, 23:52
She didn't want to come off cocky, is "new" to this but apparently asking $3 k per meet. LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0f22f287-967e-40ac-b7e8-a28545302a44
FirstClass1
09-12-21, 23:57
She didn't want to come off cocky, is "new" to this but apparently asking $3 k per meet. LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0f22f287-967e-40ac-b7e8-a28545302a44JFC. Even the headline is obnoxious and shallow. I stay away from accounts like these, where the wh0 r* has a thousand cock stare.
TheHuntsman
09-13-21, 00:45
JFC. Even the headline is obnoxious and shallow. I stay away from accounts like these, where the wh0 r* has a thousand cock stare.Agree 100%. If there's anything in their heading or profile like that or says treat me like a princess or how I deserve to be treated. That's a hard pass. Also her profile is like I previously mentioned. Caucasian or Latina looking female, ethnicity says mixed and in the what she's looking for section is blank. I'm telling you profiles with that are highly suspect to me. Maybe, I'm just crazy idk.
FirstClass1
09-13-21, 02:09
If you're wondering what's going on with the summary bans in SA, this is what's going on:
https://slate.com/technology/2021/04/matt-gaetz-seeking-arrangement-joel-greenberg-sugar-daddies.html
As I've suggested before, just be mindful of how you word your preliminary conversations. They can't go after you for what you and another consenting adult decide to do on a regular date.
Wondering is anyone has had any luck with this site? I get a lot of replies and hookups with SA but tried this site also. I get lots of emails but maybe 1 or 2 replies out of say 50 emails. Seems like it's a scam. Maybe fake accounts to get guys to buy credits to be able to email girls.
I'm in the LA area.
sugardaddy.com
TheHuntsman
09-20-21, 20:23
This girl wants 500. Wow. Idk what to even say to that.
https://www.seeking.com/member/406dcf66-b3c1-4448-b28e-9f9a4bc66724
Horseman69
09-22-21, 20:35
I tried reading this, but my eyes glazed over from all the yeehaws.
SA has implemented an algorithm that trawls all messages for keywords, including "ppm," "incall," GFE / pse, numbers and currency symbols, and other terms which may hint at solicitation. These messages get flagged for analysis, and may result in suspensions and bans. It is very difficult to appeal their decision. They're tightening the screws now that they've been de-platformed from app stores, and are trying to demonstrate that they're a conventional dating site.
Keep your conversations on site as clean as possible, using neutral terms, and take the convo offsite as soon as you can. Once you're offsite, keep using neutral terms until the girl demonstrates she's DTF, at which point you can communicate plainly.It has been dully noted good sir. I've signed one more time, we shall see what happens. Will follow your sound advice and practice good decorum on the site. Their algorithm can't and won't stop me from young sweet PANOCHA.
Yeeeehhhaaa Cowboys, Giddy UP.
-Horseman.
HollywoodGuy
09-23-21, 00:20
I just passed 30 days in on my new membership at seeking. I currently have a dozen numbers and have only had one M&G. I am being a lot pickier this time around. Something I have never done before. I always just fucked almost any girl that said yes. Knowing that out of that mass of girls a few good ones would rise to the top. But I am on a limited budget so I would rather find just 1 or 2 or 3 that could be regulars. My real #'s in the past were to fuck about 30 girls to find one real keeper. Someone that I would then get 30-100 or even 200 more dates out of. Also got my first burner # that is untraceable to anything. Never did that before and I wish I did but finally popped for the extra bill. So nothing much to report. The game is the same. I am using the same well worn pitch which I have changed very little in about 10 years.
FirstClass1
09-23-21, 18:03
This broad's username is Kokobunny, as in Snowbunny. You know Jamal is having this girl hand over her allowance. That being said, she is young, 5'9" tall, toned body and long legs. She kind of reminds me of Marianne from Gilligan's Island.
She "knows what she's worth," so her initial ask is 2 k a month. I agreed to this proposal, saying I'd want to see her 3 times a week, to which she agreed. Thank the sex gods that Jamal dropped out of elementary school math, as I have been creampieing this sexy little brotha lover msog in all her holes overnight for a 165 allowance.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4639220d-5a64-495e-9d87-817017da1f8e
HollywoodGuy
09-23-21, 20:56
This broad's username is Kokobunny, as in Snowbunny. You know Jamal is having this girl hand over her allowance. That being said, she is young, 5'9" tall, toned body and long legs. She kind of reminds me of Marianne from Gilligan's Island.
She "knows what she's worth," so her initial ask is 2 k a month. I agreed to this proposal, saying I'd want to see her 3 times a week, to which she agreed. Thank the sex gods that Jamal dropped out of elementary school math, as I have been creampieing this sexy little brotha lover msog in all her holes overnight for a 165 allowance.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4639220d-5a64-495e-9d87-817017da1f8eHope you are just paying that weekly.
HollywoodGuy
09-24-21, 14:39
After not having been on SA for a year I have had to re-remind myself of a few things. So just a few quick thoughts.
The first is to log on and sort by "recently active". Do this a couple times a day for about a week. The girls you see over and over as online or recently online are your more seasoned pros as a rule.
Depending on your budget don't waste time with the ones that are obviously GPS for what ever reason.
Stick to your demographic as your for real attraction to them will come out in your personal (not copy & pasted) messages.
Stick to your prospecting format, don't go off message even when you think you can. Do not short cut the process.
Look for the newbies and less seasoned girls. Expect to dither a bit longer with them. If any girl agrees too quickly to your allowance you are either overpaying or they are a bit too seasoned.
*These are generalizations and your individual results may vary.
WhosThirsty
09-24-21, 21:12
I've done some research looking through this and the Richmond board but can't find an answer.
Is it necessary to post a public profile pic or is it ok to just have private photos? If you just have private photos will that minimise the responses you get from SB's?
Thanks all.
TheHuntsman
09-24-21, 22:24
I've done some research looking through this and the Richmond board but can't find an answer.
Is it necessary to post a public profile pic or is it ok to just have private photos? If you just have private photos will that minimise the responses you get from SB's?
Thanks all.You don't need a profile pic. Most my time on SA was without a profile pic. Sometimes I did have a private pic. But either way it never hindered me from meeting anyone.
HollywoodGuy
09-25-21, 02:53
I've done some research looking through this and the Richmond board but can't find an answer.
Is it necessary to post a public profile pic or is it ok to just have private photos? If you just have private photos will that minimise the responses you get from SB's?
Thanks all.Yes it will.
WhosThirsty
09-25-21, 09:35
So far 1 yes and 1 no, who wants to break the tie?
I've done some research looking through this and the Richmond board but can't find an answer.
Is it necessary to post a public profile pic or is it ok to just have private photos? If you just have private photos will that minimise the responses you get from SB's?
Thanks all.
TheHuntsman
09-25-21, 16:16
So far 1 yes and 1 no, who wants to break the tie?I'll add that yes I met a lot of girls without a profile pic and a bare minimal profile. But filling out my profile completely has led to a lot of messages from girls.
FarFarAway
09-25-21, 19:52
So far 1 yes and 1 no, who wants to break the tie?Look at some of my many past posts on this issue. Many ramifications. I am guessing you want discretion, for personal or professional reasons. Of course, many here do, we have YFs, I definitely do. I am not worried about running into someone IK, or getting exposed, but I mostly am trying to keep my identity a secret from the SB.
FirstClass1
09-26-21, 00:12
I'll add that yes I met a lot of girls without a profile pic and a bare minimal profile. But filling out my profile completely has led to a lot of messages from girls.Pictures increase responses substantially. Should discretion be a concern, use a lookalike's photo as your profile pic, keep face pics as private photos to be unlocked to more serious potential SBs, or trim and otherwise edit the profile photo (s) to conceal at least a portion of your face.
A fully fleshed out profile should convey who you are and what you want without risking a ban or violating terms of service. Keep it personable, charming, persuasive, and free of complaints or negativity.
A verified profile will also provide a boost in impressions and improve your closing rate.
HollywoodGuy
09-26-21, 17:44
Pictures increase responses substantially. Should discretion be a concern, use a lookalike's photo as your profile pic, I once used an older male model as my pic, just to see what would happen. Many more responses than normal.
This broad's username is Kokobunny, as in Snowbunny. You know Jamal is having this girl hand over her allowance. That being said, she is young, 5'9" tall, toned body and long legs. She kind of reminds me of Marianne from Gilligan's Island.
She "knows what she's worth," so her initial ask is 2 k a month. I agreed to this proposal, saying I'd want to see her 3 times a week, to which she agreed. Thank the sex gods that Jamal dropped out of elementary school math, as I have been creampieing this sexy little brotha lover msog in all her holes overnight for a 165 allowance.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4639220d-5a64-495e-9d87-817017da1f8eNice move!
AppleSauce87
09-28-21, 23:32
Guys, literally WTF is up with LA?
I met one girl, she was surprised I did $200 each time or even gave her any money. On the other hand, I'm pretty picky on this site and get some fucking girls asking me for $700-$1000 each time?
Usually I'm able to dig through and find someone I like around $200-300, but on the other hand I just find it fucking insane some of these girls ask for that.
Like I know there are definitely guys that throw out higher offers than me, but do they just scam these chicks or something? I don't know, maybe it's the chicks' that are scamming cause it's out of touch narcissism.
Also a lot of these girls don't even have a car over here? Like WTF?? Do they just get guys on this site to cover all their stuff, like this definitely was not the case when I was living in a different city.
AppleSauce87
09-29-21, 14:06
Like its just so crazy. I switch off between Seeking and Tinder / Hinge. Sometimes I'm able to pull girls from Tinder / Hinge just a tad less attractive or even similar, for literally the cost of nothing. Like literally all these girls drive and don't need ubers. I either get them food, or some drinks that probably only loss of 5 dollars. I admit, seems like these girls give somewhat more pushback with sleeping with you and I'm not able to get as many meets, but still. Some of them come straight over to my home!
Like good grief, then on the other hand I have a decent amount asking me for 700-1000 on Seeking. Some of these fuckers even ask me for 700 and then I negotiate down to 300, and they accept (though this only happened like once), but WTF? Its so annoying to go through all these messages and stuff. I'm losing patience with the ROI honestly. Also I feel like the girls have been getting slightly less attractive since pandemic hit, maybe a bunch went over to Miami because they hated Newsome's policies.
SunMoonStars11
09-29-21, 16:06
Guys, literally WTF is up with LA?
I met one girl, she was surprised I did $200 each time or even gave her any money. On the other hand, I'm pretty picky on this site and get some fucking girls asking me for $700-$1000 each time?
Usually I'm able to dig through and find someone I like around $200-300, but on the other hand I just find it fucking insane some of these girls ask for that.
Like I know there are definitely guys that throw out higher offers than me, but do they just scam these chicks or something? I don't know, maybe it's the chicks' that are scamming cause it's out of touch narcissism.
Also a lot of these girls don't even have a car over here? Like WTF?? Do they just get guys on this site to cover all their stuff, like this definitely was not the case when I was living in a different city.Honestly, it's rare nowadays to find someone in the 2-3 range. I generally hover between 3-5 but I need to get what I want. Anything above that is usually not worth it for me. Also, you have to remember that there is a lot of money out here so they can ask for more.
FirstClass1
09-29-21, 23:10
Honestly, it's rare nowadays to find someone in the 2-3 range. I generally hover between 3-5 but I need to get what I want. Anything above that is usually not worth it for me. Also, you have to remember that there is a lot of money out here so they can ask for more.They are still out there.
I shared the 20 yo Marianne lookalike, a "stupid hot" tall, athletic white girl whom I creampie for a little more than $. 5.
You can also creampie / nakadashi this attractive Japanese MILF for 300:
https://members.seeking.com/member/7898e9d0-fe21-47de-9716-07c665ad9812
Met this girl when I first got on SA. She has a good body and is fun, always let me CIP. Currently have my old arrangement living with me and letting me hit for free and have another girl in LA that comes down during the week to get drinks and food. Originally would ask for 3-4 and was a pretty cute white girl but the last 2-3 weeks has asked for nothing but does hit me up often. Not sure what's going on with that but I'm riding the free wave.
Anyways been browsing to spice things up and met up with this girl. She's pretty sure fire I believe and has never flaked for me. Got her for 4 and she's pretty attractive.
Older side but like I mentioned nice body.
https://members.seeking.com/search?limit=25&max-age=28&max-height=172&min-age=18&min-height=137&page=13&radius=25&sortBy=recently-active&user_location=0640086a-bb57-4958-899e-d44e66e7f83a&view=list
Enjoy. Got 3 girls on the hook for this week / weekend. Good luck.
SunMoonStars11
09-30-21, 14:46
Met this girl when I first got on SA. She has a good body and is fun, always let me CIP. Currently have my old arrangement living with me and letting me hit for free and have another girl in LA that comes down during the week to get drinks and food. Originally would ask for 3-4 and was a pretty cute white girl but the last 2-3 weeks has asked for nothing but does hit me up often. Not sure what's going on with that but I'm riding the free wave.
Anyways been browsing to spice things up and met up with this girl. She's pretty sure fire I believe and has never flaked for me. Got her for 4 and she's pretty attractive.
Older side but like I mentioned nice body.
https://members.seeking.com/search?limit=25&max-age=28&max-height=172&min-age=18&min-height=137&page=13&radius=25&sortBy=recently-active&user_location=0640086a-bb57-4958-899e-d44e66e7f83a&view=list
Enjoy. Got 3 girls on the hook for this week / weekend. Good luck.Every now and then you can hit the jackpot LOL. It has happened to me once. Ride the wave my guy.
Met this girl when I first got on SA. She has a good body and is fun, always let me CIP. Currently have my old arrangement living with me and letting me hit for free and have another girl in LA that comes down during the week to get drinks and food. Originally would ask for 3-4 and was a pretty cute white girl but the last 2-3 weeks has asked for nothing but does hit me up often. Not sure what's going on with that but I'm riding the free wave.
Anyways been browsing to spice things up and met up with this girl. She's pretty sure fire I believe and has never flaked for me. Got her for 4 and she's pretty attractive.
Older side but like I mentioned nice body.
https://members.seeking.com/search?limit=25&max-age=28&max-height=172&min-age=18&min-height=137&page=13&radius=25&sortBy=recently-active&user_location=0640086a-bb57-4958-899e-d44e66e7f83a&view=list
Enjoy. Got 3 girls on the hook for this week / weekend. Good luck.Sends to the search but not the profile. Can you update it? Thanks.
Sends to the search but not the profile. Can you update it? Thanks.Here's a few girls then that I have seen.
https://members.seeking.com/member/73d08a6c-519e-4ecb-8878-98e7389f2f49
It's been a while for her but was a good time, always let me hit raw and swallowed.
Here's the other girl. That I mentioned in my previous post.
https://members.seeking.com/member/13741679-63b5-4265-be06-09150cffcf48
Best of luck guys.
They are still out there.
I shared the 20 yo Marianne lookalike, a "stupid hot" tall, athletic white girl whom I creampie for a little more than $. 5.
You can also creampie / nakadashi this attractive Japanese MILF for 300:
https://members.seeking.com/member/7898e9d0-fe21-47de-9716-07c665ad9812I need this Marianne lookalike's number! Fuck me for getting my Seeking account banned!
FirstClass1
10-03-21, 18:44
This one is does not even give the pretence of being a sugar baby, she's a flat out sex worker. I did not partake, as she's turning tricks out of a seedy motel in Riverside, but she offered me creampie, pics and video for 200. Maybe you can bring her allowance down further:
https://members.seeking.com/member/abd0d86e-02a5-454f-997b-12d6fa5ee7e0
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