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Hey guys,
Tried to follow the advice on the board and in the I'm (Thanks HollywoodGuy), and not sure how to proceed with her:
https://www.seeking.com/member/c1b16a33-d4b7-40aa-9266-8d25b083de66
Anybody knows or dealt with her? And what's up with the no contact before, let's meet in a park first?
I've got four unanswered messages somewhere in my group of messages from the last two months and I cannot track them down. That "5" lingering out there is wreaking havoc with my OCD. LOL. Anyone know how to track down messages that got unanswered in the midst of pussy hunting?
ShowMeHow23
11-16-20, 11:11
I've got four unanswered messages somewhere in my group of messages from the last two months and I cannot track them down. That "5" lingering out there is wreaking havoc with my OCD. LOL. Anyone know how to track down messages that got unanswered in the midst of pussy hunting?I have a 4 also. I feel like that's SA trying to get you to renew. I did it before and it was a waste of time looking at the messages. I've got 4 SB's that I've been rotating on so I haven't the urge to need to renew luckily.
Hey guys,
Tried to follow the advice on the board and in the I'm (Thanks HollywoodGuy), and not sure how to proceed with her:
https://www.seeking.com/member/c1b16a33-d4b7-40aa-9266-8d25b083de66
Anybody knows or dealt with her? And what's up with the no contact before, let's meet in a park first?Believe I messaged her a long time ago. Didn't think it was worth it because she wasn't into bare and her asking price was more than $$.
TheHuntsman
11-22-20, 13:21
Anyone else develop feelings for the sb they were seeing? I did and now my heart aches. I believe they caught feelings too and it scared them. Now they haven't text me back in 3 days. I know this isn't a place for love advice but it's hard to share in my normal social groups.
TheHuntsman
11-22-20, 13:28
I really want to try a threesome, any info on sugar couples?What area do you stay? I know of a could on SA that look for 3 some. The guy is an older SD that likes to see the girl fucked by other men.
It happened to me when I was early in the bowl. Nothing good can come of it. Find multiple hot chicks to f at $k and don't spend too much time with any one of them.
BAM.
Anyone else develop feelings for the sb they were seeing? I did and now my heart aches. I believe they caught feelings too and it scared them. Now they haven't text me back in 3 days. I know this isn't a place for love advice but it's hard to share in my normal social groups.
TheHuntsman
11-23-20, 00:51
It happened to me when I was early in the bowl. Nothing good can come of it. Find multiple hot chicks to f at $k and don't spend too much time with any one of them.
BAM.Thanks but it's too late. Sadly I was still fucking other girls but I caught feelings and she did too. It sucks because I know she didn't plan on liking me but I can see it in her eyes. I know it freaked her out. Now it's been a few days since she's messaged me.
DickensCider
11-23-20, 13:57
Anyone else develop feelings for the sb they were seeing? I did and now my heart aches. I believe they caught feelings too and it scared them. Now they haven't text me back in 3 days. I know this isn't a place for love advice but it's hard to share in my normal social groups.Try a three year relationship where it was not SB / SD but more boyfriend / girlfriend. Going on trips together, dinners, met her friends, birthdays, etc. Two to three days a week and then talkingnor texting everyday, not one day would we miss.
I did try to distance myself and would occasionally try to meet other girls but they never matched her. She would even tell me she wanted to stop seeing me but she couldn't because she loved me too much.
It was rough and we both went cold turkey and stopped just one day. We both knew it was for the best. She texted once or twice afterwards but I held firm and didn't respond. It was very painful to say goodbye.
Now I've given up on finding one girl and don't make connections like that anymore.
HollywoodGuy
11-24-20, 00:23
Anyone else develop feelings for the sb they were seeing? I did and now my heart aches. I believe they caught feelings too and it scared them. Now they haven't text me back in 3 days. I know this isn't a place for love advice but it's hard to share in my normal social groups.Having lived with multiple SB's I can say I never regretted the breakups. But it was always me doing the breaking up, except once. I try to stay grateful for the good times we had. The only one to break up with me I lost to a rich SD, and so that made it a bit easier to accept. But the pleasure I get overall from all this SD life is far more than any emotional pain I have suffered. The truth is there is always another, young, hot in bed, crazy in the head, pretty, funny, and loving girl out there. Maybe even better than anyone you had before.
Depending on your budget ($-$$$ per meet) we guys are outnumbered anywhere from 10-30 to one or even way more for the high rollers. With those kind of odds we really are spoiled far more than they are. In 15 years of sugaring I fell in love 3 times so far. Don't regret any of them (one was 18 the other two were 19 when I met them). Considered marrying all three of them. The first one I discovered was mentally ill after 6 months but continued to see her for another year. The second one I realized after 6 months that she was no where as into me as I was into her (but still good friends 7 years later). The last one left me for the rich SD as I really could not provide for her. I am still holding out that she may get back to me one day. But that could have been a civi girl just as easily. Girls want security above all else.
During those 15 years I have only had one civi relationship and that only lasted 3 weeks. lol... Just a hot milf getting back at her husband who was out of town on a work assignment. At this point it would be impossible for me to date anyone even remotely near my age. Even if I met a super hot single 40 year old, her expectation$ would be far higher than any 18-20 year old girls could ever be. So I will gratefully just continue down the path of sugaring until death do us part.
FirstClass1
11-24-20, 11:54
What area do you stay? I know of a could on SA that look for 3 some. The guy is an older SD that likes to see the girl fucked by other men.I know two bisexual girls in a lesbian relationship who want to share a daddy, and will do creampie and swallow. DM if you have dimes to trade.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0e562495-e4cd-4f45-9c74-1054dd0338ad
This one is either (probably) fake or insane. Responded to my generic intro with an insult but then kept on to keep insulting. LOL. I think people should hit her up. She only deals with millionaires.
TheHuntsman
11-27-20, 17:25
Okay so I've been banned again. I have a burner phone from Target that I used But now I think that number cannot be associated with my account also I use Green Dot to pay but using Green Dot you need to have his phone number associated with it I tried using a phone app but it's not recognised any tips.
TheHuntsman
11-27-20, 17:56
I posted recently about catching feelings for a girl I met on SA and how she ghosted me after 4 wks. This is more to vent and maybe get insight. There's too much to this but I think this happened because she caught feelings too and it was too much and too soon for her to get serious so she bailed without a word. This was her first time doing this and she was looking for an SD but I don't think she knew what to expect. I've seen that a lot. She is 20 and attends local university. Her parents are divorced. There's drug addiction in her family and she has trust issues with men and friends. We clicked from the moment we met and she never asked me for anything. Anything I did for her was on my own such as treating her to items for her college apartment or surprising her with a jacket or snacks. I actually treated her good like I would any regular girl that I would go out with. There were times where she needed help (money was not asked for) and I gave her what I thought would be needed to help. She would also return whatever was not needed and a few times gave everything back when she didn't need it at all. One of the last times she saw me she said she was afraid to like me more than she already did. My apologies for venting. I just have to get some of this off myt chest and no t having closure is killing me.
I've been off and on this site a few times and I would say there are a few different types of girls on SA. 1. Full on escorts. 2. Girls needing a little help and willing to give a little to get a little. 3. Girls who picture themselves being spoiled for nothing in return. 4. Girls curious about it but not sure what to expect.
I had two simultaneous 3 yr relationships with girls that were pretty normal. One was a girl at UCI who never once asked me for anything besides a box of frozen waffles. Besides that we would meet up and have great sex. She would even spend the weekend at my place. The other girl started off as PPM but I felt we were both liking each other so one time I gave her nothing and she continued to see me. But that turned into me still helping her out like getting her nails done and miscellaneous expenses.
What area do you stay? I know of a could on SA that look for 3 some. The guy is an older SD that likes to see the girl fucked by other men.I am over at Irvine and might be interested. Appreciate a DM with details if you are ok with connecting. Thanks!
TheHuntsman
11-28-20, 13:46
I'm using a voice text so my apologies for typos and grammar So the conclusion is she has a boyfriend I seen on social media that they have been together for 3 years since high school from age 17 to 20 which is a long time at her age That's a big portion for dating life so far. So I understand the connection that they have and their history to be honest I didn't plan on falling for this girl and I had this so many questions of course if they're talking the whole time and why wasn't she honest with me or they on a break was he out of town because in the military and now he's back I'm still the way she goes with me hurt a lot especially because I thought I had hurt her and if you know me in real life you know I'm a good person I'm just an average guy that loves sex and women. Like I said this has so many questions about what was true and not true You know she never really asked for anything I gave as my own choice. To be honest my sex drive has been killed for the whole last week I've been like that depressed I went pretty far out knowing the campus apartment she stays at but not the room but I found out so much information by her accidentally show me her real name one time and a photo and just piecing everything together honestly don't wish this upon anybody and I know I want to make sure going for that I'm always honest with women.
HollywoodGuy
11-28-20, 18:26
It used to be if you stopped paying on your SA account after about a month or even less they would offer you a free month to get started again. No more.
I'm using a voice text so my apologies for typos and grammar So the conclusion is she has a boyfriend I seen on social media that they have been together for 3 years since high school from age 17 to 20 which is a long time at her age That's a big portion for dating life so far. So I understand the connection that they have and their history to be honest I didn't plan on falling for this girl and I had this so many questions of course if they're talking the whole time and why wasn't she honest with me or they on a break was he out of town because in the military and now he's back I'm still the way she goes with me hurt a lot especially because I thought I had hurt her and if you know me in real life you know I'm a good person I'm just an average guy that loves sex and women. Like I said this has so many questions about what was true and not true You know she never really asked for anything I gave as my own choice. To be honest my sex drive has been killed for the whole last week I've been like that depressed I went pretty far out knowing the campus apartment she stays at but not the room but I found out so much information by her accidentally show me her real name one time and a photo and just piecing everything together honestly don't wish this upon anybody and I know I want to make sure going for that I'm always honest with women.Mongering 101. If you plan to partake in these endeavors whether it be Sugar Daddying or seeing professionals, you have to learn to leave your emotions behind before partaking. Otherwise, as you're experiencing, you will always be the one getting hurt since the girls are rarely and most likely never in it with you for the long haul. And of those I've witnessed actually establishing long term relationships or marriage with these women, it never ends well. So as stated, move on and have enjoy finding a new one but don't get fixated. If you do aspire to seek longer arrangements with someone and have difficulty suppressing your emotions, forego all of this and just go and be active on dating sites and remember this rule, if you have difficulty in acquiring girls of a certain caliber of girl irl, there is no way you will be retain them via mongering or sugar daddying long term so enjoy it while lasts.
I'm using a voice text so my apologies for typos and grammar So the conclusion is she has a boyfriend I seen on social media that they have been together for 3 years since high school from age 17 to 20 which is a long time at her age That's a big portion for dating life so far. So I understand the connection that they have and their history to be honest I didn't plan on falling for this girl and I had this so many questions of course if they're talking the whole time and why wasn't she honest with me or they on a break was he out of town because in the military and now he's back I'm still the way she goes with me hurt a lot especially because I thought I had hurt her and if you know me in real life you know I'm a good person I'm just an average guy that loves sex and women. Like I said this has so many questions about what was true and not true You know she never really asked for anything I gave as my own choice. To be honest my sex drive has been killed for the whole last week I've been like that depressed I went pretty far out knowing the campus apartment she stays at but not the room but I found out so much information by her accidentally show me her real name one time and a photo and just piecing everything together honestly don't wish this upon anybody and I know I want to make sure going for that I'm always honest with women.Dude, don't want to be mean but you knew this girl for a month. She's not special, theres 1000's of girls just like her and better out there. And the hard truth is she didn't like you as much as youd like. Happens to all of us. Girls operate in mysterious ways. They can seem incredibly interested in when you're together but it turns out the next day they found an upgrade and complete forget about it. It happens to all of us. It just sucks cause you found someone you like and its not easy to find another immediately. Thats what the game is all about. Go out and see other girls. Theres always another "the one" out there.
Okay so I've been banned again. I have a burner phone from Target that I used But now I think that number cannot be associated with my account also I use Green Dot to pay but using Green Dot you need to have his phone number associated with it I tried using a phone app but it's not recognised any tips.I recently joined the site. How does someone get banned?
HollywoodGuy
11-30-20, 21:36
I recently joined the site. How does someone get banned?Never talk about lowball money for sex with a white girl.
I posted recently about catching feelings for a girl I met on SA and how she ghosted me after 4 wks. This is more to vent and maybe get insight. There's too much to this but I think this happened because she caught feelings too and it was too much and too soon for her to get serious so she bailed without a word. This was her first time doing this and she was looking for an SD but I don't think she knew what to expect. I've seen that a lot. She is 20 and attends local university. Her parents are divorced. There's drug addiction in her family and she has trust issues with men and friends. We clicked from the moment we met and she never asked me for anything. Anything I did for her was on my own such as treating her to items for her college apartment or surprising her with a jacket or snacks. I actually treated her good like I would any regular girl that I would go out with. There were times where she needed help (money was not asked for) and I gave her what I thought would be needed to help. She would also return whatever was not needed and a few times gave everything back when she didn't need it at all. One of the last times she saw me she said she was afraid to like me more than she already did. My apologies for venting. I just have to get some of this off myt chest and no t having closure is killing me.
Apologies in advance for busting your little bubble but there has never been a girl that will cut it off because she likes you too much. She wanted out and didn't want to hurt your feeling so she came up with some BS she knew you'd fall for. Seriously, you need to see other girls and forget about this one. She is nowhere near what you thought she was and she didn't care much about you. Don't be upset, it's just how girls are. My guess is that you were one of several guys in her life and she just wanted to replace you in her rotation. Always keep in mind: you don't own her, it's just your turn.
Did you only see her for four weeks and this happened? The chances of BOTH people getting hit by lightening bolts of attachment that quick at the same time is vanishingly small. More likely, you were the one who was smitten, you over-reacted and scared her then she made up an excuse to bail. It happens; you will survive; the pain most likely happened because she took the initiative to get out. Try to see yourself a year from now out of the emotional vortex happily doing young, lissome coeds. Two things that have helped me: can you imagine her on the toilet taking an especially noisy dump? Come on, you know that happens. If you cannot imagine it, you are smitten with some unreal vision not a real person. Second, if you were not apart, where do you think you would be with her ten years from now? Those fire are not going to burn hot that long. You would at some point be dumping her. A nice guy would not lead a gal on that long. Own it.
Bam.
I posted recently about catching feelings for a girl I met on SA and how she ghosted me after 4 wks. This is more to vent and maybe get insight. There's too much to this but I think this happened because she caught feelings too and it was too much and too soon for her to get serious so she bailed without a word.
Never talk about ANY money, and sex at or near the same time, with ANY woman, on Seeking. Hollywood is about the only guy to even try to get away with lowball offers. (I know one more but he offers to do them on his yacht while on a boating excursion which is not the same thing at all. He also lets them take home a case of restaurant wine.) Just avoid talk of any quid pro quo until you get them off the site.
Bam.
Never talk about lowball money for sex with a white girl.
Dude, don't want to be mean but you knew this girl for a month. She's not special, theres 1000's of girls just like her and better out there. And the hard truth is she didn't like you as much as youd like. Happens to all of us. Girls operate in mysterious ways. They can seem incredibly interested in when you're together but it turns out the next day they found an upgrade and complete forget about it. It happens to all of us. It just sucks cause you found someone you like and its not easy to find another immediately. Thats what the game is all about. Go out and see other girls. Theres always another "the one" out there.Right on point on how the girls operate. They are mysterious and the best thing to do is look for multiple babes instead of sticking to one, as there will always be a rich SD who will be making moves. Not from the La area but found out from the home page and felt like adding a post. Hollywood Guy, EvilTmp, Tomatillo every one are so nice to stand with you huntsman. Move on and find another girl. It will never be the same but may be even better.
TheHuntsman
12-01-20, 02:16
Did you only see her for four weeks and this happened? The chances of BOTH people getting hit by lightening bolts of attachment that quick at the same time is vanishingly small. More likely, you were the one who was smitten, you over-reacted and scared her then she made up an excuse to bail. It happens; you will survive; the pain most likely happened because she took the initiative to get out. Try to see yourself a year from now out of the emotional vortex happily doing young, lissome coeds. Two things that have helped me: can you imagine her on the toilet taking an especially noisy dump? Come on, you know that happens. If you cannot imagine it, you are smitten with some unreal vision not a real person. Second, if you were not apart, where do you think you would be with her ten years from now? Those fire are not going to burn hot that long. You would at some point be dumping her. A nice guy would not lead a gal on that long. Own it.
Bam.I know everyone is trying to help and I know people have caught up in stuff all the time. But I think she really did like me We really connected. I think it was because she has a boyfriend and from the social media I can season the military they're dating since they were 17 I think maybe he was away and she just wanted some fun. I think she was looking for a way out because the boyfriend was coming back home and I think she did like me I mean I can't describe it the look she gave me her eyes already were together. I know everyone who say hey that's an act or a trick but we had some really good times. I know mostly skeptical. You know there were times like that week where a car broke down and she hasn't come get her and I sent her money to fix it was on my way and she got a jump start and she sent it back. Anyway I know it's over I know mission exactly what I thought she was obviously she lied about the boyfriend. But we did like each other and I think it's what most things were it's short and intense and people get caught up with feelings that they shouldn't get And also on both sides.
Almighty. Everyone's chimed in, and the OP is still convinced in what he believes. Time to turn the page, folks.
TheHuntsman
12-01-20, 22:45
Almighty. Everyone's chimed in, and the OP is still convinced in what he believes. Time to turn the page, folks.You're right. I have to let it go. I just had to vent here that's all.
HollywoodGuy
12-02-20, 03:58
My BFF is an x SB from a long time ago. Now she does only fans. She says she needs to do some POV videos. Just some foot fetish stuff that ends happily with a HJ or FJ. This is about the best my broke ass can do these days. She should be paying me. LOL. But I"ll take what I can get. Got another x that got married a while back but she says she will be in vegas for new years (my current home). She is going to try and sneak off for a bit. Another freebie. I know its pathetic, but until I get rolling again this is all I got, cept for my one regular that I been seeing for a year now (yawn).
And sorry for no more pics, but I got burned big time on the vegas thread by some captain save-a-ho. You know the type. Or maybe he thought he was gonna score some coochie points, either way I lost a real winner because of that a hole.
But I did find a high res video on PH of another one of my discoveries from a few years ago. Not sure If I can post it. but here it is. Its a 3 girl video. The one I am referring to is the last one. The 5'7" 95 lb super spinner. Dated her about 7 times, should have made time for a dozen more. Great attitude, loved sex, loved me...lol... She used to drive to my house like 90 minutes RT for that $.
On second thought, if you wanna see it .. message me. Must love AA super spinners
HollywoodGuy
12-06-20, 16:51
This is usually a great time of year to be sugaring. Girls need money for Christmas and with these new lockdowns jobs are tighter than ever. Look for even bigger lockdowns after Jan 20th. You got like 2 weeks till girls get busy with family.
FarFarAway
12-07-20, 17:23
Help is on the way. I have been super careful since the pandemic began, I have only been to the FC w / one girl I can recall. These vaccines are going to really reduce the risk (down to the usual worries for STDs and getting caught by the SO), I'll be back on SA as soon as I get the 2nd shot. I am lucky to be in group 1 B for California, I should not have to wait forever. I understand there will be 2 million doses available this month in California.
Does anyone have a prepaid card brand they know works with SA? I used to use the one vanilla ones, but those don't seem to be working anymore. I tried 2 different cards and neither worked.
Does anyone have a prepaid card brand they know works with SA? I used to use the one vanilla ones, but those don't seem to be working anymore. I tried 2 different cards and neither worked.Make a one time use Virtual Charge Card if you have cards with Capital One, CitiBank or Bank of America.
FarFarAway
12-09-20, 02:37
Does anyone have a prepaid card brand they know works with SA? I used to use the one vanilla ones, but those don't seem to be working anymore. I tried 2 different cards and neither workedThere is dated information that if you load the app onto your Android phone, you can use Google Play cards (bought for cash) to pay for SA membership. Please check for us currently and report back.
FilmMakr97
12-09-20, 13:54
Does anyone have a prepaid card brand they know works with SA? I used to use the one vanilla ones, but those don't seem to be working anymore. I tried 2 different cards and neither worked.Please excuse my ignorance, I've never used a prepaid card online. On the SA site it asks for "name as it is on card". If you use prepaid, what do you put as name? Also, if I use a card not previously used but the name is the same, my name, I assume it won't be accepted because the name associated with the card was banned, correct? BTW. I was banned from WYP site but it automatically banned me from SA as well.
Uncountable
12-10-20, 17:40
So I received a request for $700 on Venmo with a simple message: Abortion! My mind raced, and I panicked. Whom did I impregnate and when? I looked into our history and realised that I had paid her $200 in February. We only rendezvoused once and she never intimated to me that she was pregnant all these months. I am assuming that she already had the procedure done, if she was ever really pregnant. I don't want to contact her at all. What am I supposed to do? Does she have any legal standing?
HollywoodGuy
12-10-20, 21:27
So I received a request for $700 on Venmo with a simple message: Abortion! My mind raced, and I panicked. Whom did I impregnate and when? I looked into our history and realised that I had paid her $200 in February. We only rendezvoused once and she never intimated to me that she was pregnant all these months. I am assuming that she already had the procedure done, if she was ever really pregnant. I don't want to contact her at all. What am I supposed to do? Does she have any legal standing?Block her number.
So I received a request for $700 on Venmo with a simple message: Abortion! My mind raced, and I panicked. Whom did I impregnate and when? I looked into our history and realised that I had paid her $200 in February. We only rendezvoused once and she never intimated to me that she was pregnant all these months. I am assuming that she already had the procedure done, if she was ever really pregnant. I don't want to contact her at all. What am I supposed to do? Does she have any legal standing?Based on those timelines, you're supposed to toss your burner phone and forget about it. If she had an abortion, there's no DNA to match at this point, and if she's pregnant in a time window that would be eligible for an early term abortion, it's not yours.
Do nothing, or ask her who the father is and why he isn't hitting her with $700.
I assume if she has your venmo, that you paid her that way and she in fact knows who you are?
Block her number.I already did, but she knows where I live. I will never make that mistake again. She also knows my real identity.
Based on those timelines, you're supposed to toss your burner phone and forget about it. If she had an abortion, there's no DNA to match at this point, and if she's pregnant in a time window that would be eligible for an early term abortion, it's not yours.
Do nothing, or ask her who the father is and why he isn't hitting her with $700.
I assume if she has your venmo, that you paid her that way and she in fact knows who you are?Yes, I paid her that way and she does know who I am and where I live.
FarFarAway
12-11-20, 01:06
Based on those timelines, you're supposed to toss your burner phone and forget about it. If she had an abortion, there's no DNA to match at this point, and if she's pregnant in a time window that would be eligible for an early term abortion, it's not yours.
Do nothing, or ask her who the father is and why he isn't hitting her with $700.
I assume if she has your venmo, that you paid her that way and she in fact knows who you are?IDK anything about Venmo specifically, but essentially everything these days for financial transactions requires real personal info, precluding anonymity, and I presume Venmo is the same. So, in retrospect, that wasn't such a good idea to do, was it? Keeping my operational security (married and a professional rep to defend) is paramount. I don't believe anyone has discovered the real me in my 3+ years in the bowl.
Assuming that you had done that, the point about DNA is a decent one. Even if you aren't yourself in any DNA databases, if a close relative is, you could be implicated in something (by someone like LE who has the resources and authority to dig into databases). BTW, the most common retort to a girl saying preggo is 'who's the father? Not me, I've had a vasectomy'. If you'd been with her a bunch, she might know that not to be true, but for a 1-night stand, I can't imagine her info is that good.
You don't have to lose your burner if you've been using Google Voice, you just get a new number if you don't want to be pestered by this chick.
I recently thought I had a good way to get $ transferred that failed. I am lucky enough to have a PayPal with my sugar identity. They haven't require verification for it. I thought I would send $ from several of my old prepaid cards (with odd small $ on them, from paying for SA) through my real PayPal to my sugar me. That part worked OK, but over on my sugar PayPal, to 'save' that $ in my account (to aggregate it), I did have to have my account verified. Dang.
I already did, but she knows where I live. I will never make that mistake again. She also knows my real identity.
Yes, I paid her that way and she does know who I am and where I live.Well, no matter what the consequences, I wouldn't pay her. She'll always come back to that well if you do. You have to make sure she knows you're a waste of time to hit up for cash. If she threatens you with exposure, that's a crime. Might not be too helpful, but that's all I can really think of unless you're willing to make some threats of your own, which have the possibility of turning up the tension.
Hope it all works out. I'm assuming you're married or otherwise hooked up with a SO, or you could just follow Hollywood's advice: Block and forget.
I recently thought I had a good way to get $ transferred that failed. I am lucky enough to have a PayPal with my sugar identity. They haven't require verification for it. I thought I would send $ from several of my old prepaid cards (with odd small $ on them, from paying for SA) through my real PayPal to my sugar me. That part worked OK, but over on my sugar PayPal, to 'save' that $ in my account (to aggregate it), I did have to have my account verified. Dang.Nothing connected to a financial institution is truly anonymous. A Paypal account in another name is still funded by a transactional instrument such as a bank / card, etc.
Cash is king. Even in restaurants. I was plopped at a bar with a SB a few years ago, and when he brought back my AMEX, you know what he said. "Thank you Mr. RogerOver".
She looked at me and said, I'm going home and google "RogerOver" LOL. Had my speaking presentations and all next time I saw her. She was a good kid, so it was a laugh off. But you never know when good times become bad.
FarFarAway
12-11-20, 13:47
Nothing connected to a financial institution is truly anonymous. A Paypal account in another name is still funded by a transactional instrument such as a bank / card, etc.
Cash is king. Even in restaurants. I was plopped at a bar with a SB a few years ago, and when he brought back my AMEX, you know what he said. "Thank you Mr. RogerOver".
She looked at me and said, I'm going home and google "RogerOver" LOL. Had my speaking presentations and all next time I saw her. She was a good kid, so it was a laugh off. But you never know when good times become bad.This has changed over time. A year + ago, I was able to buy prepaid cards and send $ to a SB by my sugar PayPal (to pay for the room she was getting for us). Like lots of these young ones, she didn't have a credit card, she needed $ on her debit card to get the transaction to process. But as I said myself, I don't think this will work currently. So, your first statement may or may not be true. Yes, I am very dedicated to cash whenever. I would never use my personal credit card around a SB. I also know all the security issues w / getting a hotel, that's why I like to have my SB get a room.
So I received a request for $700 on Venmo with a simple message: Abortion! My mind raced, and I panicked. Whom did I impregnate and when? I looked into our history and realised that I had paid her $200 in February. We only rendezvoused once and she never intimated to me that she was pregnant all these months. I am assuming that she already had the procedure done, if she was ever really pregnant. I don't want to contact her at all. What am I supposed to do? Does she have any legal standing?Hmm that was 11 months ago thinking maybe a scam she probably did a text blast to all her numbers. That said if she could actually prove it is your child yes you're on the hook. You should block her number and cease all contact since nothing good can come of it and she tried to scam you.
HollywoodGuy
12-12-20, 02:38
I already did, but she knows where I live. I will never make that mistake again. She also knows my real identity.
Yes, I paid her that way and she does know who I am and where I live.You are just going to have to wait it out. After some length of time it will fade away as most of these things tend to do. It's easy for me to say, but having been in similar threatening situations with SB's and GF's in the past, it's just normally what happens. I am sure every one on this thread is thinking, "There but for the grace of God go I" And good luck.
SushiLover69
12-12-20, 18:27
Do you guys generally make an offer before the meet or after meeting? What is a reasonable offer to make to a thin, young latina in So Cal? Thanks so much.
HollywoodGuy
12-13-20, 03:00
Do you guys generally make an offer before the meet or after meeting? What is a reasonable offer to make to a thin, young latina in So Cal? Thanks so much.I won't even do an M&G without a firm yes to my offer beforehand. As I prefer to do my sweet talking via messaging. I like to get the financials out of the way upfront so the only thing left to think about is the fun. And I am a low baller so even in a not so great outcome I am still gonna cum for a fair price. And many times I will be paying 50%-67% off of prevailing rates for a hottie. The down side is I will get a lot of turn downs. But I would rather get turned down via txt than face to face.
Many others wait till the M&G (as they may offer more or less depending on the perceived value). And some leave it a mystery until after the deed is done.
Try out a few different scenarios and see which one best suites your needs.
HollywoodGuy
12-13-20, 04:33
What kind of of girls take lowball offers?
AA girls are more likely to. But so will latinas and white girls.
Girls that can see something more in you than the $.
Girls in an immediate financial bind.
Girls that usually get far more but are just bored and with nothing to do for the moment.
Girls staying in motels. Girls that need a room.
Maybe you are adding a nice dinner to the date or an attractive location.
New girls that don't know any better.
Girls with low self esteem that are grateful that you even made an offer.
Girls you connect with on a kink level.
Girls that may not fit the prevailing standard of beauty.
Older girls that just got out of a relationship, want revenge, are bored, or just horny.
Just my 2 cents.
Do you guys generally make an offer before the meet or after meeting? What is a reasonable offer to make to a thin, young latina in So Cal? Thanks so much.Here's the thing. I've tried to HG price point, and it can work but you could potentially be waiting around for months with nothing to show for it, just to save a couple $$. Keep in mind it sounds like he mostly goes for black girls and in my experience they will consistently take low balls. Other girls not so much. I make the offer before meeting in most cases, they usually won't even agree to meet until they get an idea of what you're offering. You can deviate from that and get some results, but imo its a waste of time to try to save a bit of money. The best strategy to try to save money is to give your best offers up front, do a couple of meetups, maybe a month or so, then after she gets to know you and trust you, try to lower the allowance.
NeedaBBBJCIM
12-13-20, 16:41
Is there a lot of fake ads?! As I am seeing a lot of that like most dating apps and website as those numbers are higher and other social media etc!
I have tried different approaches over time. The most important thing for me is to make sure they are DTF in some form while chatting on SA. (I never discuss money on SA.) Then I move them to texting. While texting, I share a range. The range varies depending on how hot they look, their distance from me, my relative level of recent success and a few other factors. When we meet, I offer a specific amount. I have a list of excuses I can offer for any adjustments. I will low ball anyone I don't really want to see again. I might overpay for someone really hot. I do them once and then do not reschedule. If they ask me why, I say: "It wasn't really all that good was it?" I have been doing this almost seven years. I have learned a lot from people like Hollywood Guy. It is a numbers game and by now my wrinkled, old ass is impervious to any attitude the POT's might throw at me. Every day there are new ones eager to see me. When I make my offer, I am at my indifference point: if they say yes, I am glad. If they say No, I don't care; I move on.
With regard to Paypal, for several years I had a fully functioning sugar Paypal tied to my sugar gmail. I started it using a prepaid credit card. I was able to use it to send money direct or for gifts from Amazon to SB's. A few years ago, they started demanding a regular credit / debit card or a bank account. It no longer works for me and I have a few hundred stranded there. If anyone knows how to get it out, please DM me.
Bam.
Do you guys generally make an offer before the meet or after meeting? What is a reasonable offer to make to a thin, young latina in So Cal? Thanks so much.
I've mostly been mongering on HX / PD / Backpage when it was around, and am looking to try something new. Ik most of these girls aren't supposed to be pros but is it similar to talking to pros? Also when I mongered I prefered to go to an incall is that something the girls on SA usually have or is it a outcall only thing? Thanks for the help.
What kind of of girls take lowball offers?
AA girls are more likely to. But so will latinas and white girls.
Girls that can see something more in you than the $.
Girls in an immediate financial bind.
Girls that usually get far more but are just bored and with nothing to do for the moment.
Girls staying in motels. Girls that need a room.
Maybe you are adding a nice dinner to the date or an attractive location.
New girls that don't know any better.
Girls with low self esteem that are grateful that you even made an offer.
Girls you connect with on a kink level.
Girls that may not fit the prevailing standard of beauty.
Older girls that just got out of a relationship, want revenge, are bored, or just horny.
Just my 2 cents.I don't want to generalize, but why do you say AA chicks are more open to lower amounts?
What kind of of girls take lowball offers?
AA girls are more likely to. But so will latinas and white girls.
Girls that can see something more in you than the $.
Girls in an immediate financial bind.
Girls that usually get far more but are just bored and with nothing to do for the moment.
Girls staying in motels. Girls that need a room.
Maybe you are adding a nice dinner to the date or an attractive location.
New girls that don't know any better.
Girls with low self esteem that are grateful that you even made an offer.
Girls you connect with on a kink level.
Girls that may not fit the prevailing standard of beauty.
Older girls that just got out of a relationship, want revenge, are bored, or just horny.
Just my 2 cents.Completely sage advice by HG but this also works well for Midballing which is where I'm at since I simply don't have the time and energy to lowball. I focus on girls who are new, young, and insecure about their looks who want to get away from home every once in a while or older hotties who happen to have short term debt that they need to take care of. The common denominator is that they are all new to SA and are apprehensive about being an SB in general and so far, I have gotten good results without much effort. Stay away from young Asian American and Middle Eastern girls and girls who have a large social media following since they all develop serious GPS. The main thing is to work with whatever budget you have and go from there.
MidnightDabber
12-14-20, 03:42
How many times have you guys gotten a "meet" without any damage at all? Any tips?
FarFarAway
12-14-20, 16:03
How many times have you guys gotten a "meet" without any damage at all? Any tips?Whoa, deja vu, man. Same thread as on Orange county. .
HollywoodGuy
12-14-20, 18:10
I don't want to generalize, but why do you say AA chicks are more open to lower amounts?Just my experience from hitting up thousands of girls over the last 15 years.
HollywoodGuy
12-14-20, 18:13
How many times have you guys gotten a "meet" without any damage at all? Any tips?It's rare but it happens. For me maybe 1 out of 50 times. But I did have one girl I saw at least 6 times for 2 hour sessions with no allowance. She said it would ruin the mood.
With regard to Paypal, for several years I had a fully functioning sugar Paypal tied to my sugar gmail. I started it using a prepaid credit card. I was able to use it to send money direct or for gifts from Amazon to SB's. A few years ago, they started demanding a regular credit / debit card or a bank account. It no longer works for me and I have a few hundred stranded there. If anyone knows how to get it out, please DM meGot a friend? Send the balance of your account to that person, then have that person hand you cash. They shouldn't be holding a balance hostage. Been working with Paypal for over 20 years.
Just my experience from hitting up thousands of girls over the last 15 yearsAdmit it HG it's more than just the bang for your buck. There is magic to be found in the pursuit of black girls, not just the discount price.
I've been on SA for about a year on and off.
I had some initial luck. By that I mean I met a girl that I fucked without paying. I've since seen her a few times and we've done the deed each time. The only thing she's asked is that I pay her hotel room once.
A few other experiences were just regular dates. For instance, food or hiking or both.
Most of my experience however has been that the girls on there are 90% online sb with the covid or just wanting a very wealthy man.
For context, I'm younger than the usual, but don't necessarily low ball.
I tried HG's approach and have had only one girl that is down, but only when she wants to.
HG: do you have a big dick?
DougPeterson
12-16-20, 03:41
https://www.seeking.com/member/3c2aa60f-d3d4-4200-a52e-e489573c16d4
I'm working in LA and have been texting this one. Anyone have any contact with her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/b124e27a-26e3-4118-8db9-d97ab6849b39
I love short women. Have anyone every try her and any info?
https://www.seeking.com/member/b124e27a-26e3-4118-8db9-d97ab6849b39
Any info?
HollywoodGuy
12-16-20, 15:01
Admit it HG it's more than just the bang for your buck. There is magic to be found in the pursuit of black girls, not just the discount price.It's my preference. I am old enough to say we weren't allowed to date black girls in H.S. But as soon as I graduated it was on. First wife was white as snow (blond & blue). That pretty much solidified that I only liked darker girls. Second wife was dark but not a black girl. But the last 15 years has been 70% AA, 20% south asian, 5% latina, 5% white. And the last 5 years almost all AA.
HollywoodGuy
12-16-20, 15:05
I've been on SA for about a year on and off.
I had some initial luck. By that I mean I met a girl that I fucked without paying. I've since seen her a few times and we've done the deed each time. The only thing she's asked is that I pay her hotel room once.
A few other experiences were just regular dates. For instance, food or hiking or both.
Most of my experience however has been that the girls on there are 90% online sb with the covid or just wanting a very wealthy man.
For context, I'm younger than the usual, but don't necessarily low ball.
I tried HG's approach and have had only one girl that is down, but only when she wants to.
HG: do you have a big dick?I will say this. I never talk to any girl about dick size and very little about sex before meeting them. So the bigger issue (no pun intended) is how do you get girls to meet you for sex on the budget you are comfortable with. Its more about confidence and being the man, telling them what's up (still no pun intended.). Sugar daddy = strong male presence. Or just paying what they want. It's not that hard (sorry about this pun recurrence).
TheReal Truth
12-16-20, 23:59
Do you guys hit up your SB or do you wait for them to hit you up?
FarFarAway
12-17-20, 10:28
Do you guys hit up your SB or do you wait for them to hit you up?I always initiate, because I keep my SA profile hidden from search. That way I avoid all the scammers, time-wasters, pic-sellers, out-of-towners. Once I have visited a girl's page, she can see my profile, some like or message. When I am not paid on the site, as is the case right now (because of the coronavirus) I sometimes will like a profile and / or show my private pics to her (all my pics are fakes, of the same guy who looks like me, cropped as if they are really me and I want to keep my discretion). That hook smokes out girls who will be interested for sure once I am paid and can message again. I keep some in my 'freezer' this way.
LightHouseMan
12-17-20, 16:14
Anyone met her before?I've met this girl before a couple times near Dtla. She didn't host. PM me for more info.
I know we're not too close to the border, but have any of you considered a SB in TJ?
NutritionFacts
12-25-20, 20:09
If so how do you deal with the women who demand to see more pics of you before meeting up?
FarFarAway
12-26-20, 01:37
If so how do you deal with the women who demand to see more pics of you before meeting up?I crop the top of the head off my fakes (as if they were really me and I am trying to hide my true identity). That is the only sort of photo I have on the SA site. Once I have spoken w / a girl by phone, and think we could be a match and she 's no scammer, I send a real photo of me by text. I have never had one peep of protest that I am not providing a real photo. As to 'demand', if I ever got to that tenor of conversation w / a POT, I don't think I'd be too interested in pursuing them.
Christophe1
12-26-20, 12:40
If so how do you deal with the women who demand to see more pics of you before meeting up?Use an app like, or similar to, FaceApp.
The Ass Man
12-28-20, 14:08
I did a few years back. She would come across the border to see me once a week.
I know we're not too close to the border, but have any of you considered a SB in TJ?
NutritionFacts
12-31-20, 02:50
I mean I do too, but one girl I would text her and she would tell me she was crying all day, wouldn't say why when I offered to listen. Another more recent one I found her social media talking about having borderline and personality disorder. She was pretty insistent on meeting, which always makes me a bit overly cautious. I haven't seen her yet but leaning towards now. There's nothing wrong and I wish them the best but seems like It can go bad really easily no? I try to stay discreet.
I mean I do too, but one girl I would text her and she would tell me she was crying all day, wouldn't say why when I offered to listen. Another more recent one I found her social media talking about having borderline and personality disorder. She was pretty insistent on meeting, which always makes me a bit overly cautious. I haven't seen her yet but leaning towards now. There's nothing wrong and I wish them the best but seems like It can go bad really easily no? I try to stay discreet.If she has Borderline Personality Disorder, don't walk. Run. Unless you want complete chaos in your life.
I mean I do too, but one girl I would text her and she would tell me she was crying all day, wouldn't say why when I offered to listen. Another more recent one I found her social media talking about having borderline and personality disorder. She was pretty insistent on meeting, which always makes me a bit overly cautious. I haven't seen her yet but leaning towards now. There's nothing wrong and I wish them the best but seems like It can go bad really easily no? I try to stay discreet.Every single girl on the site who's willing to meet will have serious mental issues. *No exceptions*. Every single one will be on either medication (e. G. Anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, and other psych meds) or will be an undiagnosed personality disorder or depression. It's not your fault and if you are truly looking for a well-adjusted SB your pool of applicants will be exactly '0'. Having said that, if you pick with some care you can have a great relationship. You get what you want and spend time with someone who's life you make better. Just don't turn this into something it is not -I. E. Finding a great life partner or some other romantic crap.
NutritionFacts
12-31-20, 19:00
If she has Borderline Personality Disorder, don't walk. Run. Unless you want complete chaos in your life.That's what I figured. I meant to say I was leaning towards no. I avoided giving her any personal info and she refused to talk until I sent some. I just deleted her.
FarFarAway
12-31-20, 19:51
Every single girl on the site who's willing to meet will have serious mental issues. *No exceptions*. Every single one will be on either medication (e. G. Anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, and other psych meds) or will be an undiagnosed personality disorder or depression. It's not your fault and if you are truly looking for a well-adjusted SB your pool of applicants will be exactly '0'. Having said that, if you pick with some care you can have a great relationship. You get what you want and spend time with someone who's life you make better. Just don't turn this into something it is not -I. E. Finding a great life partner or some other romantic crap.A rather categorical statement based on flimsy or non-existent actual information, other than the anecdotal experiences you have had. I have had some good luck on the site, and I have run into crazies of all sorts (some of whom I fucked, and made sure to stay far under the radar so they couldn't find me after). I think we agree about that. Exercising the same sort of general caution and operational security one would in any mongering should be adequate for the sugar bowl.
If you go into the posts of other veteran SDs, you find some people who are still in contact w / SBs after several years, I don't think this could be the case if they were as broken as you describe. I was very lucky w / my first SB, truly the proverbial 'heart of gold. ' We couldn't continue because of logistics, and she hasn't spent any more time on SA. Past Playboy model. Yeah, IK, you think it's bullshit, but I've seen the pix.
Every single girl on the site who's willing to meet will have serious mental issues. *No exceptions*. Every single one will be on either medication (e. G. Anti-depressant, anti-anxiety, and other psych meds) or will be an undiagnosed personality disorder or depression. It's not your fault and if you are truly looking for a well-adjusted SB your pool of applicants will be exactly '0'. Having said that, if you pick with some care you can have a great relationship. You get what you want and spend time with someone who's life you make better. Just don't turn this into something it is not -I. E. Finding a great life partner or some other romantic crap.After (or before) you fuck them, if you're at their place, just go the the bathroom and take a second to open the medicine cabinet / drawer, whatever. You'll find their prescribed chill pills in there.
Having said that, that may be what makes a lot of them wonderful pieces of ass. I always miss fucking the crazy ones.
After (or before) you fuck them, if you're at their place, just go the the bathroom and take a second to open the medicine cabinet / drawer, whatever. You'll find their prescribed chill pills in there.
Having said that, that may be what makes a lot of them wonderful pieces of ass. I always miss fucking the crazy ones.To be fair, most people I know, SB or not, have prescriptions for mental shit right now. Its so crazy common these days. This "all SBs are crazy" thing isn't true because I also have met girls that seem pretty normal that I've met up with, and even one I've seen longer term.
I did a few years back. She would come across the border to see me once a week.How was it? Would you recommend? I recently started talking to a few. My goal is to be able to go down to tj and enjoy some of the sights and food with a local but it might as well be a hot local. I've been offering $100 and some seem to think its good. Obviously the hottest ones ask for more. What was your experience?
VinoVeritas034
01-10-21, 11:57
Anyone seen or had an arrangement with FitExoticModel? Had first date and she seems to have a good head on her shoulders, plus she's a 10/10. Being a pessimist and having met a few crazies on SA, thought I'd poll the community to see if anyone had any experiences with her, good or bad.
FarFarAway
01-12-21, 20:28
Anyone seen or had an arrangement with FitExoticModel? Had first date and she seems to have a good head on her shoulders, plus she's a 10/10. Being a pessimist and having met a few crazies on SA, thought I'd poll the community to see if anyone had any experiences with her, good or bad.Never heard of it, and a google search didn't take me to it. Are you sure?.
Bunny Whip
01-12-21, 22:16
Never heard of it, and a google search didn't take me to it. Are you sure?.I believe Vino-V was referring to someone on SA.
FirstClass1
01-13-21, 15:34
A rather categorical statement based on flimsy or non-existent actual information, other than the anecdotal experiences you have had. I have had some good luck on the site, and I have run into crazies of all sorts (some of whom I fucked, and made sure to stay far under the radar so they couldn't find me after). I think we agree about that. Exercising the same sort of general caution and operational security one would in any mongering should be adequate for the sugar bowl.
If you go into the posts of other veteran SDs, you find some people who are still in contact w / SBs after several years, I don't think this could be the case if they were as broken as you describe. I was very lucky w / my first SB, truly the proverbial 'heart of gold. ' We couldn't continue because of logistics, and she hasn't spent any more time on SA. Past Playboy model. Yeah, IK, you think it's bullshit, but I've seen the pix.That's exactly the case. Blanket statements on all SBs (or all SDs for that matter) are useless. As always, exercise better judgment and approach each girl on her own merits.
NutritionFacts
01-15-21, 05:49
Do you post face pics? Sometimes SBs ask for more pics and who knows who they know or what they do with the pics?
So for the new year I decided to try SA again after being off for a few years and have been talking to some different women, already met one a couple of times and it's already paid off. But my question is if anyone has been talking to this girl Mya in Anaheim. Sounds cool and legit and she's sending me great pics, it just seems a little to good to be true and my spidey sense is tingling. Has anyone had any experience with her?Scammer for sure.
So for the new year I decided to try SA again after being off for a few years and have been talking to some different women, already met one a couple of times and it's already paid off. But my question is if anyone has been talking to this girl Mya in Anaheim. Sounds cool and legit and she's sending me great pics, it just seems a little to good to be true and my spidey sense is tingling. Has anyone had any experience with her?Scammer for sure!!
LightHouseMan
01-20-21, 17:00
https://www.seeking.com/member/65a25a75-25f1-43a6-a04d-29b7ef07847e
She's been on the site under different names for a while, finally decided to give her go. She's a little pricey but can be worth it. Absolute freak, like things very rough, tons of stamina, and enthusiastic about BBFSCIP.
https://www.seeking.com/member/65a25a75-25f1-43a6-a04d-29b7ef07847e
She's been on the site under different names for a while, finally decided to give her go. She's a little pricey but can be worth it. Absolute freak, like things very rough, tons of stamina, and enthusiastic about BBFSCIP.Don't think the link matches the pics and description. This is Angel2609.
LightHouseMan
01-20-21, 19:56
Don't think the link matches the pics and description. This is Angel2609.Mistake, here it is. https://www.seeking.com/member/e39e90e0-1485-4386-9458-81daaea53da4.
https://www.seeking.com/member/65a25a75-25f1-43a6-a04d-29b7ef07847e
She's been on the site under different names for a while, finally decided to give her go. She's a little pricey but can be worth it. Absolute freak, like things very rough, tons of stamina, and enthusiastic about BBFSCIP.Whats the damage? Never pillaged an authentic Viking before.
NutritionFacts
01-21-21, 16:49
https://www.seeking.com/member/d995badc-9c88-4eb9-b486-8c013969ff05
Does anyone actually pay that? She's hot but not 1300 a pop hot.
StraightMan
01-21-21, 20:31
Whats the damage? Never pillaged an authentic Viking before.https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/sections/san_fernando_valley_california_escorts.htm
A Swedish woman and Finnish woman are up on the board right now. If you are going to go pricy, why not get what you expect?
JohnTheGreat
01-21-21, 20:34
Cost money and a lot of time weeding out the bad ones from legit SB. I've purchased 2 x and the first one was short arrangement, like only met once. Then my second one (current SB), I think I can pretty much say I hit the jackpot. White girl 9. 5/10 in the looks department. I would like to share pics to show off but she refuses to give any pics or let me take any pics. 400 ppm with bb and couple hrs to chill. She took off her profile after our 2 meetings together.I'm completely new to this sugar daddy scene. Do I just put nice photos of myself on my profile and message a girl and ask her if she'll be able to meet for a certain amount?
LightHouseMan
01-21-21, 21:41
Whats the damage? Never pillaged an authentic Viking before.Sending you a PM.
ShowMeHow23
01-21-21, 23:32
https://www.seeking.com/member/d995badc-9c88-4eb9-b486-8c013969ff05
Does anyone actually pay that? She's hot but not 1300 a pop hot.The most I spent on SA was $1 k. She was a model and absolutely blew me away. That one doesn't do it for me.
DogTown997
01-23-21, 00:50
https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/sections/san_fernando_valley_california_escorts.htm
A Swedish woman and Finnish woman are up on the board right now. If you are going to go pricy, why not get what you expect?If your talking about the Svieta girl on Eros form Finland those are fake pics, cost me 700 to find that out, total bait & switch.
FarFarAway
01-24-21, 02:45
I'm completely new to this sugar daddy scene. Do I just put nice photos of myself on my profile and message a girl and ask her if she'll be able to meet for a certain amount?You need to read the thread for Richmond VA for the sugar bowl. Like the past month or so of regular posts, and then all of the archive. It is the de facto national thread and archive for all things sugar, not just for the Richmond area (though of course some people do post local specifics too). It will take you several days to get through all of that. IDK how in the world you'd get started doing this without that assistance. I certainly used this site a lot when first getting going. Our fearless leader here, Hollywood Guy, used to post a lot about his adventures, but he is mostly in Vegas. HE's a master, you could read the Vegas thread too.
JohnTheGreat
01-24-21, 10:47
You need to read the thread for Richmond VA for the sugar bowl. Like the past month or so of regular posts, and then all of the archive. It is the de facto national thread and archive for all things sugar, not just for the Richmond area (though of course some people do post local specifics too). It will take you several days to get through all of that. IDK how in the world you'd get started doing this without that assistance. I certainly used this site a lot when first getting going. Our fearless leader here, Hollywood Guy, used to post a lot about his adventures, but he is mostly in Vegas. HE's a master, you could read the Vegas thread too.Cool, thanks for the advice. At first, I was interested in seeing pornstar escorts a lot, but in my opinion, there a lot of women on seeking that are just as hot if not hotter. Plus, it's more exciting because it actually takes some work to get the girl and it's a lot cheaper from what I've read so far on this forum.
NutritionFacts
01-24-21, 20:16
Have really high expectations of themselves? Probably lots of men willing to do overpriced.
Have really high expectations of themselves? Probably lots of men willing to do overpriced.It's not just you. Real Asian escorts who barely speak English are willing to do the nastiest of the nasty for the lowest of the low. But the Asian girls in the Suger Baby scene are out of this world level expensive. They expect even more than USDAPrime all American blue eyed big titty blondes, now you know you're rates are too damn high when Beverly Hills white girls are cheaper.
FirstClass1
01-27-21, 22:46
Don't think the link matches the pics and description. This is Angel2609.This is the funniest looking Viking woman ever LOL.
FirstClass1
01-27-21, 23:20
Cool, thanks for the advice. At first, I was interested in seeing pornstar escorts a lot, but in my opinion, there a lot of women on seeking that are just as hot if not hotter. Plus, it's more exciting because it actually takes some work to get the girl and it's a lot cheaper from what I've read so far on this forum.Porn stars are more of a novelty experience: there is a thrill in having a beautiful woman who's craved by thousands direct her passion to you. But there's also drama risk, especially from those who have a suitcase pimp or an addiction to feed. SBs who have been on SA for years can be just as hardened and overpriced as any porn star or escort, but once you navigate through the scam accounts and hustlers, there are many opportunities to get with fresh, hot girls who will do absolutely everything for you.
Have really high expectations of themselves? Probably lots of men willing to do overpriced.2nd to 3rd Gen Asian American Girls have very high standards since they've been pampered and are often help in high esteem by men of all colors hence the GPS. Unless you have deep pockets, avoid them.
FirstClass1
01-28-21, 05:22
2nd to 3rd Gen Asian American Girls have very high standards since they've been pampered and are often help in high esteem by men of all colors hence the GPS. Unless you have deep pockets, avoid them.It can actually be cheaper and less drama to book a flight to East Asia and drain your nuts into all your favorite Asian hotties than it is to deal with spoiled Asian Americans.
FarFarAway
01-28-21, 17:04
Porn stars are more of a novelty experience: there is a thrill in having a beautiful woman who's craved by thousands direct her passion to you. But there's also drama risk, especially from those who have a suitcase pimp or an addiction to feed. SBs who have been on SA for years can be just as hardened and overpriced as any porn star or escort, but once you navigate through the scam accounts and hustlers, there are many opportunities to get with fresh, hot girls who will do absolutely everything for you.This topic comes up periodically on these threads. There are a lot of guys who will tell you that the ex-porn stars want big $ and the experience was one of their worst of the sugar bowl. I have had someone who posed for Playboy at one point, IK this was so b / c we were together for months and I saw the photos, heard the story, and believed it. That was just pix, though, not on-camera sex. Many guys observe an inverse relationship between the quality of the sex and the sugar. Porn stars, models, etc. I M&G once w / a stunning Russian, she wanted 800 for a date (and she hosted). I didn't like her personally, I wouldn't have done it for 200. The most I have ever ever gone was 600, for a very special slender Dutch-heritage blond who I had been seeing / cultivating for a month+. Her puffy nipples and major labia are etched into my memory banks. If a girl is attracted enough to you to not require Fort Knox to go to the FC, doesn't it make sense she'll be into the sex?
On another topic current here, IDK that I would spend much of my energy aiming at Asian girls on SA. My experiences haven't been great. Sometimes they are just very passive. Others may be into it, but personally I find their squealing (like you'll see / hear in porn you can find online) annoying. My two long-term SBs were both Caucasian, and I have had peak experiences with some Hispanic girls.
It can actually be cheaper and less drama to book a flight to East Asia and drain your nuts into all your favorite Asian hotties than it is to deal with spoiled Asian Americans.The Phillipines and Cambodia are my 2 fave places for that!
MrJohnJohn
01-29-21, 12:48
https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/sections/san_fernando_valley_california_escorts.htm
A Swedish woman and Finnish woman are up on the board right now. If you are going to go pricy, why not get what you expect?The standing pics are of Scarlett. She was in LA with her 'twin' Cat. They were both excellent.
So I recently came across an account that I thought was too good to be true. A duo Lesbian SB account that claimed they were step sisters (no blood relation but their parents were married and they hooked up while they were together). Anyway I had to meet with these two, either is a great story to entice people or it's true which they promised it was. Low a behold we got together had a few drinks, got a bite and went back to a hotel. We talked a bit more when we were in private and they had actual proof. Showed photos of their parents marriage, the divorce, some family potraits. Shit was insane and I couldn't believe it. This is like something I feel like guys fantasize about and here I was about the have them night of my life.
Definitely going to keep these 2 on the roster for a while haha. Just thought I'd share.
Just seeking advice here. I have a sb I was seeing for a bit. I inquired one day if she was open to overnight and asked for extra money. I got a bit turned off as I was going to give a little extra even without her asking. Broke it off for a few days as it killed the mood and felt transactional. Went back with her and did overnight w / extra she requested. After a few more times we saw each other, our time is shortened a lot and only seems to want to meet on weekdays even though she knows I can only meet weekends. Is it time for me to move on to another sb?
Just seeking advice here. I have a sb I was seeing for a bit. I inquired one day if she was open to overnight and asked for extra money. I got a bit turned off as I was going to give a little extra even without her asking. Broke it off for a few days as it killed the mood and felt transactional. Went back with her and did overnight w / extra she requested. After a few more times we saw each other, our time is shortened a lot and only seems to want to meet on weekdays even though she knows I can only meet weekends. Is it time for me to move on to another sb?Or take a break.
Just seeking advice here. I have a sb I was seeing for a bit. I inquired one day if she was open to overnight and asked for extra money. I got a bit turned off as I was going to give a little extra even without her asking. Broke it off for a few days as it killed the mood and felt transactional. Went back with her and did overnight w / extra she requested. After a few more times we saw each other, our time is shortened a lot and only seems to want to meet on weekdays even though she knows I can only meet weekends. Is it time for me to move on to another sb?Probably found someone else. If you can afford two, why not keep her around. Just remember this: they like money more than they like you.
BigBoss203
01-31-21, 20:10
Traveling to LA soon, has anybody talked or have some good info on this girl?
https://www.seeking.com/member/66e54886-f6f3-4153-af11-c3800fce79d8
HollywoodGuy
02-01-21, 01:26
Just got a txt from a girl that wanted to tell me she felt totally degraded after meeting me. It must have been a long time ago, because I haven't paid my membership in a long time. She did mention something about getting paid a $ for the meet up. I am sure if I paid her $$$ she would have felt like a queen. I have a feeling I know who it is and I still see her profile up there.
Like most of the guys here I have never forced a girl to do anything, and only proceed with consent (even with a pro). She said she was young and naïve and didn't know any better. But I'm going to rot in hell. I am sure she is getting paid much more now. But that's how it goes sometimes. Like any job you start at the bottom and work your way up.
My current and only girl just started dancing. I doubt she made a $ her first night. But in time she will learn the tricks of the trade and make some real money. So you wonder where all this GPS comes from? Some of it is from urban legends the girls hear, other times they just move their allowance up slowly or quickly over time. Or sometimes they do get lucky with a generous SD, and just don't realize it may have been a one off experience. One of my x's is always complaining about how cheap the guys are, and holds out for the 5 bill dates. Which are far and few between. So yes she does get that amount, but so rarely that she is always broke.
Just got a txt from a girl that wanted to tell me she felt totally degraded after meeting me. It must have been a long time ago, because I haven't paid my membership in a long time. She did mention something about getting paid a $ for the meet up. I am sure if I paid her $$$ she would have felt like a queen. I have a feeling I know who it is and I still see her profile up there.
Like most of the guys here I have never forced a girl to do anything, and only proceed with consent (even with a pro). She said she was young and nave and didn't know any better. But I'm going to rot in hell. I am sure she is getting paid much more now. But that's how it goes sometimes. Like any job you start at the bottom and work your way up.
My current and only girl just started dancing. I doubt she made a $ her first night. But in time she will learn the tricks of the trade and make some real money. So you wonder where all this GPS comes from? Some of it is from urban legends the girls hear, other times they just move their allowance up slowly or quickly over time. Or sometimes they do get lucky with a generous SD, and just don't realize it may have been a one off experience. One of my x's is always complaining about how cheap the guys are, and holds out for the 5 bill dates. Which are far and few between. So yes she does get that amount, but so rarely that she is always broke.Heh. Excuse me while I pull out the worlds smallest violin for her. Maybe I should hit up old providers from years ago when I was a newbies and complain that they gave me shit service at overpriced rates.
Horseman69
02-01-21, 12:28
Hotties currently undergoing some work:
1) Had an interesting date with this girl. She's claims to not be a pro but her requirements and expectations say otherwise. Currently asking for anything higher than $$ YMMV!
https://www.seeking.com/member/b6d5a0be-84a7-4277-a151-d169e1be089e
2) sweet talker looking for anything higher than $$.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/956a19ab-596c-40ac-b0b2-f9c7f4bf85cf
3) cuttie that has me really on the verge of dropping some coins on her. She seems to need lunch money ha ha.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6230afb9-7cb9-4d32-b25e-4d1cf635ca04
More updates to follow.
Da_Horseman.
Just got a txt from a girl that wanted to tell me she felt totally degraded after meeting me. It must have been a long time ago, because I haven't paid my membership in a long time. She did mention something about getting paid a $ for the meet up. I am sure if I paid her $$$ she would have felt like a queen. I have a feeling I know who it is and I still see her profile up there.
Like most of the guys here I have never forced a girl to do anything, and only proceed with consent (even with a pro). She said she was young and nave and didn't know any better. But I'm going to rot in hell. I am sure she is getting paid much more now. But that's how it goes sometimes. Like any job you start at the bottom and work your way up.
In other words she was super bored and wondered what kind of drama she could muster for the day. If you would have replied it would have been like her hitting a homerun. She just wanted to feel some outrage and she got to feel something, anything while she was writing that text. Oh the sweet feeling of those endorphins flooding her brain as she rewrote in her head that encounter you two had many moons ago. So sure, you could jump right in and validate her little fantasy or just do like most experienced guys would do (and I'll bet you did): just shrug, ignore it, and take it for what it really is, a bored little girl.
If I saw that profile, it would have been an immediate 'hide the profile' assuming spammer. Lucky you! What was the damage?
So I recently came across an account that I thought was too good to be true. A duo Lesbian SB account that claimed they were step sisters (no blood relation but their parents were married and they hooked up while they were together). Anyway I had to meet with these two, either is a great story to entice people or it's true which they promised it was. Low a behold we got together had a few drinks, got a bite and went back to a hotel. We talked a bit more when we were in private and they had actual proof. Showed photos of their parents marriage, the divorce, some family potraits. Shit was insane and I couldn't believe it. This is like something I feel like guys fantasize about and here I was about the have them night of my life.
Definitely going to keep these 2 on the roster for a while haha. Just thought I'd share.
HollywoodGuy
02-02-21, 01:37
In other words she was super bored and wondered what kind of drama she could muster for the day. If you would have replied it would have been like her hitting a homerun. She just wanted to feel some outrage and she got to feel something, anything while she was writing that text. Oh the sweet feeling of those endorphins flooding her brain as she rewrote in her head that encounter you two had many moons ago. So sure, you could jump right in and validate her little fantasy or just do like most experienced guys would do (and I'll bet you did): just shrug, ignore it, and take it for what it really is, a bored little girl.I blocked her. Then she txted me from another number, blocked that one. Then I got a random txt from another number asking if I wanted to meet up. Just deleted that one. Never ever ever respond to anything negative. That's one out of a hundred. Usually they are texting back hoping for a second date or whatever. Really been bored since I quit the bowl. Been on this roller coaster before but not for a while. Until I earn more than I spend, I'll be living the quiet life for the time being. Got one regular I see once or twice a month. And an x willing to give me a HJ once in a while. LOL. But nothing lasts forever.
HollywoodGuy
02-02-21, 01:39
Pic of the x. Probably delete it in a few days, as per my no more pics posted policy.
I blocked her. Then she txted me from another number, blocked that one. Then I got a random txt from another number asking if I wanted to meet up. Just deleted that one. Never ever ever respond to anything negative. That's one out of a hundred. Usually they are texting back hoping for a second date or whatever. Really been bored since I quit the bowl. Been on this roller coaster before but not for a while. Until I earn more than I spend, I'll be living the quiet life for the time being. Got one regular I see once or twice a month. And an x willing to give me a HJ once in a while. LOL. But nothing lasts forever.There was Vanessa and Michele and Shana, Julie Lauren Claire Kirsten and Katie. All *** half my age of durations between six months and four years with me. Each would certainly take the cock again for a donation on their nightstand if I called. Each ran out their time and there will surely be a new one after COVID. They serve their purpose and so do we. Don't hate the player; hate the game.
Bubba Love
02-02-21, 13:00
I just created a premium account on seeking.com and want to hear some feedback. Are the girls on there DTF? I have some convos started but I'm not sure my intention of just meeting up to fuck is getting across. I don't want to just say that because I have a feeling my account can be banned.
LightHouseMan
02-02-21, 18:19
Saw this girl some months back. 100% Chinese but a surprisingly plump ass. Likes it very rough (hard spanking, real chocking, face slapping), although her hair is shorter than in the pics (and she's not quite as slim). Overall fun time but not quite worth the cost. BBFS but not on BC. PM for any details.
https://www.seeking.com/member/87a74ebb-1cc9-430d-a100-d26604a6cfc6
-LHM.
FirstClass1
02-02-21, 22:42
Pic of the x. Probably delete it in a few days, as per my no more pics posted policy.That's a delicious figure.
PriscillaM
02-02-21, 23:07
Pic of the x. Probably delete it in a few days, as per my no more pics posted policy.I think I saw the pics now on a craigserotica dot com ad.
I just created a premium account on seeking.com and want to hear some feedback. Are the girls on there DTF? I have some convos started but I'm not sure my intention of just meeting up to fuck is getting across. I don't want to just say that because I have a feeling my account can be banned.You are right to be cautious because they will ban you at the slightest whiff of trying to offer $ for service and as you can already guess there's no refund on the membership fee you paid. I got 5 accts banned in a month before giving up. My only advice is this, 1) take the convo offline asap, deal with girls via phone / text / facetime but never mention much of anything through their PM system. 2) Make your profile as obvious as can be without saying you want sex, so that even the dumbest girl understands your intention. Experience has taught me that the kind of girl you want, who puts out, is also dumb as a door nail and won't read a long written profile with any complex wording. Pretend your talking to someone with a 3rd grade education. Instead make you profile super short and to the point. Not more than a sentence or two. After much trial and error, the acct I finally got to stick and got the kind of inquires I wanted wrote something similar to this:
"Looking for a simple arrangement. The date would be at a hotel or my room for about an hour. If we agree to meet, I'll have your gift ready for you on time. 100% real, no games, serious. NOTE: Looking for a date that's more than just dinner (if you don't know what I mean by that, please move on)" and then in the 2nd section I just rewrote "date will be a romantic hour at my room or yours". Please don't cut / paste that word for word, re-write it in your own words. Put up some decent looking photos of yourself well dressed and the PMs will start coming to you.
Some of these high brow cunts will report you anyway or tell you off, ignore them. Expect serious replies to be in the $400-$500 range. Offers under $200 were almost always complete scams or whales so ugly that they should be paying you for the date.
HollywoodGuy
02-03-21, 02:37
You are right to be cautious because they will ban you at the slightest whiff of trying to offer $ for service and as you can already guess there's no refund on the membership fee you paid. I got 5 accts banned in a month before giving up. My only advice is this, 1) take the convo offline asap, deal with girls via phone / text / facetime but never mention much of anything through their PM system. 2) Make your profile as obvious as can be without saying you want sex, so that even the dumbest girl understands your intention. Experience has taught me that the kind of girl you want, who puts out, is also dumb as a door nail and won't read a long written profile with any complex wording. Pretend your talking to someone with a 3rd grade education. Instead make you profile super short and to the point. Not more than a sentence or two. After much trial and error, the acct I finally got to stick and got the kind of inquires I wanted wrote something similar to this:
"Looking for a simple arrangement. The date would be at a hotel or my room for about an hour. If we agree to meet, I'll have your gift ready for you on time. 100% real, no games, serious. NOTE: Looking for a date that's more than just dinner (if you don't know what I mean by that, please move on)" and then in the 2nd section I just rewrote "date will be a romantic hour at my room or yours". Please don't cut / paste that word for word, re-write it in your own words. Put up some decent looking photos of yourself well dressed and the PMs will start coming to you.
Some of these high brow cunts will report you anyway or tell you off, ignore them. Expect serious replies to be in the $400-$500 range. Offers under $200 were almost always complete scams or whales so ugly that they should be paying you for the date.I am sure you got what you were looking for with that approach. But for the guys that are looking for girls that may be a little fresher / shy / new / etc. Try something a bit less direct. They know its a sugar daddy site and they know that sugar = money from the guy and sex from the girl. The girls looking for the no sugar on their side also know its a shot in the dark. But so are a lot of things. Don't be put off by them, just move on to the next one.
And with the softer and gentler approach you will find about as much pussy as any over sexed guy can handle at $$ a date. But if you are a low baller you will have to put in a little more work, but I can't think of anything I would rather spend my time on, other than the actual date itself.
I am sure you got what you were looking for with that approach. But for the guys that are looking for girls that may be a little fresher / shy / new / etc. Try something a bit less direct. They know its a sugar daddy site and they know that sugar = money from the guy and sex from the girl. The girls looking for the no sugar on their side also know its a shot in the dark. But so are a lot of things. Don't be put off by them, just move on to the next one.
And with the softer and gentler approach you will find about as much pussy as any over sexed guy can handle at $$ a date. But if you are a low baller you will have to put in a little more work, but I can't think of anything I would rather spend my time on, other than the actual date itself.I agree with this. That is the approach a proper Daddy should use and really the site is designed for them. My approach is only for horn dogs who have no interest in a real relationship and only want quick, guaranteed sex for cash upon meeting. I really don't care if a girl is "fresh" or seen a million dicks, because they are all skanks anyway. Women of real integrity aren't selling their ass on a SB website. If I want actual fresh, I'll go to the park or beach and start hitting on girls working out in yoga pants.
HollywoodGuy
02-03-21, 12:21
I agree with this. That is the approach a proper Daddy should use and really the site is designed for them. My approach is only for horn dogs who have no interest in a real relationship and only want quick, guaranteed sex for cash upon meeting. I really don't care if a girl is "fresh" or seen a million dicks, because they are all skanks anyway. Women of real integrity aren't selling their ass on a SB website. If I want actual fresh, I'll go to the park or beach and start hitting on girls working out in yoga pants.I get it. I just though my post made a good contrast to yours. There really is no right or wrong way to get pussy. As everyone's needs, abilities, time management and financial resources are different. And thanks for posting. Love to see more peoples approach to the hunt posted here.
I didn't find this place until a few years floundering around on my own. I could have gotten a jump start if I even knew half of what I have read on this thread and richmond as well.
FarFarAway
02-03-21, 16:10
I just created a premium account on seeking.com and want to hear some feedback. Are the girls on there DTF? I have some convos started but I'm not sure my intention of just meeting up to fuck is getting across. I don't want to just say that because I have a feeling my account can be banned.You need to spend a few days reading this thread back for a while, and also the Richmond VA thread (IK, it's weird, but it is the de facto national sugaring thread). There is an archive of the Richmond threads 'greatest hits', you can learn an immense amount there. I am not an expert in getting what you are looking for, IK some guys roll that way, but it's not my interest.
Bubba Love
02-03-21, 17:06
I get it. I just though my post made a good contrast to yours. There really is no right or wrong way to get pussy. As everyone's needs, abilities, time management and financial resources are different. And thanks for posting. Love to see more peoples approach to the hunt posted here.
I didn't find this place until a few years floundering around on my own. I could have gotten a jump start if I even knew half of what I have read on this thread and richmond as well.I appreciate both of your takes. They offer a viewpoint from the opposite ends of the approach spectrum, and I guess the trick I will adopt is using a sort of happy medium between those two. I already took two conversations to text and told them both right away I want to hook up for cash. I offered 200 to hopefully be countered at 300, but they both quoted 500. That is higher than I expected. Is this a normal rate for an hour? I have gone through plenty of pros, so I'm familiar with those rates. And based on my experience 500 should only be an amount you're going to pay if you're sure that chick is going to rock your world.
Another thing I should mention is that my search radius is between SLO and Santa Barbara, which I imagine is quite different to LA in terms of bargaining and the type of girls. There isn't much feedback for those area's forums so I posted here. I went to this site to try and get at those more fresh college chicks, as opposed to the typical escort on PD and the like. The college chicks in this area are unreal, but likely a bit more on the conservative end. Appreciate both of you.
Bubba Love
02-03-21, 19:40
You need to spend a few days reading this thread back for a while, and also the Richmond VA thread (IK, it's weird, but it is the de facto national sugaring thread). There is an archive of the Richmond threads 'greatest hits', you can learn an immense amount there. I am not an expert in getting what you are looking for, IK some guys roll that way, but it's not my interest.Thanks man, it seems a bit tricky but I'm glad to have finally found an alternative to the main escort sites like PD, HX, Tryst, etc. With a more GND selection, feel me?
HollywoodGuy
02-03-21, 22:58
I appreciate both of your takes. They offer a viewpoint from the opposite ends of the approach spectrum, and I guess the trick I will adopt is using a sort of happy medium between those two. I already took two conversations to text and told them both right away I want to hook up for cash. I offered 200 to hopefully be countered at 300, but they both quoted 500. That is higher than I expected. Is this a normal rate for an hour? I have gone through plenty of pros, so I'm familiar with those rates. And based on my experience 500 should only be an amount you're going to pay if you're sure that chick is going to rock your world.
Another thing I should mention is that my search radius is between SLO and Santa Barbara, which I imagine is quite different to LA in terms of bargaining and the type of girls. There isn't much feedback for those area's forums so I posted here. I went to this site to try and get at those more fresh college chicks, as opposed to the typical escort on PD and the like. The college chicks in this area are unreal, but likely a bit more on the conservative end. Appreciate both of you.Make offers to about 50 girls. That may sound like a lot. But trust me its the way to do it. It shouldn't take more than a month. Make 2 a day. You should have at least 5 done deals out of that at a price you are happy with. You need to get in the groove of making offers and the back and forth. Forget about which ones or when you will actually meet up. It will all come together with this approach fast enough.
Bubba Love
02-04-21, 00:01
Make offers to about 50 girls. That may sound like a lot. But trust me its the way to do it. It shouldn't take more than a month. Make 2 a day. You should have at least 5 done deals out of that at a price you are happy with. You need to get in the groove of making offers and the back and forth. Forget about which ones or when you will actually meet up. It will all come together with this approach fast enough.Thanks man. You and the other guy both eased my concerns surrounding this process. And your suggestions were sort of confirmations of my initial hunch regarding the next steps, which is encouraging. I'm looking forward to the fun.
I appreciate both of your takes. They offer a viewpoint from the opposite ends of the approach spectrum, and I guess the trick I will adopt is using a sort of happy medium between those two. I already took two conversations to text and told them both right away I want to hook up for cash. I offered 200 to hopefully be countered at 300, but they both quoted 500. That is higher than I expected. Is this a normal rate for an hour? I have gone through plenty of pros, so I'm familiar with those rates. And based on my experience 500 should only be an amount you're going to pay if you're sure that chick is going to rock your world.
Another thing I should mention is that my search radius is between SLO and Santa Barbara, which I imagine is quite different to LA in terms of bargaining and the type of girls. There isn't much feedback for those area's forums so I posted here. I went to this site to try and get at those more fresh college chicks, as opposed to the typical escort on PD and the like. The college chicks in this area are unreal, but likely a bit more on the conservative end. Appreciate both of you.I agree with HGuy, you'll need to shoot out a bunch of offers before you find a couple of good deals. Also yes, 400-500 is about the going rate on a sugar baby platform. Most of these girls sign up there under the misconception that the guys there are all wealthy businessmen who have nothing better to do than spoil them with gold and diamonds. That's why I said mentally prepare yourself to get some nasty replies when you hit them with 300 and under rates, ignore / block those GPS brats and move on. I have to be honest, I gave up on the SB scene personally because it was too hard to find what I wanted at the rate I wanted, so yea you'll have to be diligent.
Bubba Love
02-04-21, 14:29
I agree with HGuy, you'll need to shoot out a bunch of offers before you find a couple of good deals. Also yes, 400-500 is about the going rate on a sugar baby platform. Most of these girls sign up there under the misconception that the guys there are all wealthy businessmen who have nothing better to do than spoil them with gold and diamonds. That's why I said mentally prepare yourself to get some nasty replies when you hit them with 300 and under rates, ignore / block those GPS brats and move on. I have to be honest, I gave up on the SB scene personally because it was too hard to find what I wanted at the rate I wanted, so yea you'll have to be diligent.Another thing I would like to know is whether or not LE is anything to worry about on this site? I assume the girls have to pay for their membership and get verified. I've been discussing sex explicitly over text and realized that might have been a naive slip-up.
Another thing I would like to know is whether or not LE is anything to worry about on this site? I assume the girls have to pay for their membership and get verified. I've been discussing sex explicitly over text and realized that might have been a naive slip-up.No, there's zero LE involved with that platform or any platform like it. Never has been, never will be. The reason is obvious, it's too long winded (aka costly) of an endeavor to try to net one guy or girl at a time in that way and the case wouldn't hold water anyway because at it's core it's still a dating platform so even the worst attorney would get a the case dismissed on the basis that you were just giving a gift to your girlfriend and that you also happen to be sexual partners. The only time to think about LE is when trying to pick up SW's right off the street, where cops can watch you do it from a distance make a quick bust on the spot. Also on rare occasion they might run an escort ad on some cheap escort directory, showing a girl that looks ridiculously hot at some stupidly low price with a full BBFS menu, available 24 hrs and always an incall to a motel and always only available for meet one a specific date between some specific hours (of course they aren't open to scheduling other days because they have to have an entire sting squad prepared and are only setup for 1 night). The intention there is net several knuckleheads in a single sting using the same motel room, it's so obvious that you could smell it a mile away and again that's VERY rare. Despite what TV says, there isn't a huge budget or interest in vice operations.
Bubba Love
02-06-21, 12:29
No, there's zero LE involved with that platform or any platform like it. Never has been, never will be. The reason is obvious, it's too long winded (aka costly) of an endeavor to try to net one guy or girl at a time in that way and the case wouldn't hold water anyway because at it's core it's still a dating platform so even the worst attorney would get a the case dismissed on the basis that you were just giving a gift to your girlfriend and that you also happen to be sexual partners. The only time to think about LE is when trying to pick up SW's right off the street, where cops can watch you do it from a distance make a quick bust on the spot. Also on rare occasion they might run an escort ad on some cheap escort directory, showing a girl that looks ridiculously hot at some stupidly low price with a full BBFS menu, available 24 hrs and always an incall to a motel and always only available for meet one a specific date between some specific hours (of course they aren't open to scheduling other days because they have to have an entire sting squad prepared and are only setup for 1 night). The intention there is net several knuckleheads in a single sting using the same motel room, it's so obvious that you could smell it a mile away and again that's VERY rare. Despite what TV says, there isn't a huge budget or interest in vice operations.That makes sense. I've never been paranoid about cops when I go to see chicks from PD, but it has crossed my mind at times that seem kinda seedy. It feels great that now there's absolutely nothing to worry about. Also, after just a few days I have 4 chicks who are DTF right off the bat. I'm in my mid-twenties and attractive, and I wasn't sure if that would play to my advantage or have the opposite effect. Not sure if it has much to do with the response, but regardless it's working. Thanks for the guidance, I really appreciate it.
No, there's zero LE involved with that platform or any platform like it. Never has been, never will be. The reason is obvious, it's too long winded (aka costly) of an endeavor to try to net one guy or girl at a time in that way and the case wouldn't hold water anyway because at it's core it's still a dating platform so even the worst attorney would get a the case dismissed on the basis that you were just giving a gift to your girlfriend and that you also happen to be sexual partners. The only time to think about LE is when trying to pick up SW's right off the street, where cops can watch you do it from a distance make a quick bust on the spot. Also on rare occasion they might run an escort ad on some cheap escort directory, showing a girl that looks ridiculously hot at some stupidly low price with a full BBFS menu, available 24 hrs and always an incall to a motel and always only available for meet one a specific date between some specific hours (of course they aren't open to scheduling other days because they have to have an entire sting squad prepared and are only setup for 1 night). The intention there is net several knuckleheads in a single sting using the same motel room, it's so obvious that you could smell it a mile away and again that's VERY rare. Despite what TV says, there isn't a huge budget or interest in vice operations.
That makes sense. I've never been paranoid about cops when I go to see chicks from PD, but it has crossed my mind at times that seem kinda seedy. It feels great that now there's absolutely nothing to worry about. Also, after just a few days I have 4 chicks who are DTF right off the bat. I'm in my mid-twenties and attractive, and I wasn't sure if that would play to my advantage or have the opposite effect. Not sure if it has much to do with the response, but regardless it's working. Thanks for the guidance, I really appreciate it.I would take any legal advice or thoughts about LE involvement you get on a hooker board with a grain of salt. I've seen reports on this very forum about a guy getting pinned by a police chick when they went back to the car to complete the transaction after an M&G.
I've seen other reports outside of this site of guys enticed by girls who start out saying they are 18 or 19, then declaring they are 17 just before the meet. Good chance that's LEO trying to snatch molesters.
Safer than straight-up mongering, but I wouldn't run headlong into it as if there are zero risks of being arrested. Good luck.
Bubba Love
02-07-21, 14:41
I would take any legal advice or thoughts about LE involvement you get on a hooker board with a grain of salt. I've seen reports on this very forum about a guy getting pinned by a police chick when they went back to the car to complete the transaction after an M&G.
I've seen other reports outside of this site of guys enticed by girls who start out saying they are 18 or 19, then declaring they are 17 just before the meet. Good chance that's LEO trying to snatch molesters.
Safer than straight-up mongering, but I wouldn't run headlong into it as if there are zero risks of being arrested. Good luck.How can a police chick do anything to a guy for simply meeting someone? I assume she didn't fuck him. That sounds like bullshit.
How can a police chick do anything to a guy for simply meeting someone? I assume she didn't fuck him. That sounds like bullshit.I'm not a lawyer or the person that posted the event. But go tell a policewoman that you'll give her $200 bucks for some pussy and see what happens. In fact, be extra clever and call it "sugar" or something like that. Head to the car or FC to do the deed. Let us know if it's bullshit.
I'm not a lawyer or the person that posted the event. But go tell a policewoman that you'll give her $200 bucks for some pussy and see what happens. In fact, be extra clever and call it "sugar" or something like that. Head to the car or FC to do the deed. Let us know if it's bullshit.I'd like to believe cops have much better things to do than arrest an adult paying for legal age pussy. Make it legal already.
FarFarAway
02-09-21, 17:41
How can a police chick do anything to a guy for simply meeting someone? I assume she didn't fuck him. That sounds like bullshit.It absolutely is true that communicating with someone you know to be underage for the purpose of meeting them is illegal. There have been comments on this thread in the past about this by the guru, HG. I *always* ask that a girl promise me that she is at least 18 very very early in the messaging phase, that's even before I exchange contact info and try to get them to message off the site. Sometimes they volunteer the social media to prove themselves, or say I can see their license. IF they go poof, well, that's a good indicator there wasn't something right. IK one dynamic on this site is older / younger, and many guys here have done the half to one-third their age girls, but heck, 19 is plenty young for me (and YK she may have said that but really been 23 - I can't judge age too well anymore), I have no need to dip dangerously close to jail. Anyway, there's plenty of quality young puss on SA, there's no need to tread even slightly onto anything suspect.
Hot as blazes. . . https://www.seeking.com/member/7f180af6-ad05-4698-b374-cdad644e5c23
But, wants to bring a friend. I've tried this several times, every time thinking "It will be different this time" . . . NEVER works out. Dealing with two is beyond my capability. Even tried charming the friend more than the SB, just seems to be a dead end.
Thoughts?
Hot as blazes. . . https://www.seeking.com/member/7f180af6-ad05-4698-b374-cdad644e5c23
But, wants to bring a friend. I've tried this several times, every time thinking "It will be different this time" . . . NEVER works out. Dealing with two is beyond my capability. Even tried charming the friend more than the SB, just seems to be a dead end.
Thoughts?So the 3 of you are going to have an online arrangement? Because this is what her profile says:
"I am seeking a preferably online based relationship, where we can fill one another's expectations"!
HollywoodGuy
02-10-21, 00:08
Hot as blazes. . . https://www.seeking.com/member/7f180af6-ad05-4698-b374-cdad644e5c23
But, wants to bring a friend. I've tried this several times, every time thinking "It will be different this time" . . . NEVER works out. Dealing with two is beyond my capability. Even tried charming the friend more than the SB, just seems to be a dead end.
Thoughts?The only time two at a time has worked out for me is if they were in separate rooms.
The only time two at a time has worked out for me is if they were in separate rooms.I should clarify. . .
1. They are asking if their friend is coming as more of a chaperone "for safety reasons", not to participate. . . But still wants them to participate in the convo.
2. I'm being a little hard on myself with "beyond my capability" . . . I've done this just fine in civvy life (meet two women at a bar, take one home). It just seems to me that POTs who insist on bringing a chaperone who does anything more than sit in the car is just too scared to actually be an SB.
FirstClass1
02-10-21, 02:04
I should clarify. . .
1. They are asking if their friend is coming as more of a chaperone "for safety reasons", not to participate. . . But still wants them to participate in the convo.
2. I'm being a little hard on myself with "beyond my capability" . . . I've done this just fine in civvy life (meet two women at a bar, take one home). It just seems to me that POTs who insist on bringing a chaperone who does anything more than sit in the car is just too scared to actually be an SB."For safety reasons" is code for "We will waste as much of your money and time as we can. " If an SB is genuinely not comfortable to meet or concerned about safety after transparent communication, especially when including a phone or video chat, then they will simply postpone or cancel the date. These two girls aim to get the most expensive dinner and drinks, probably some shopping and other perks, and lead you on until you finally figure out that it's not going anywhere.
If the SB says her friend is into you as well, and all cues point to genuine interest, then that can translate into a fun evening!
CrunchEazy
02-10-21, 02:16
Everyone who favorites me is from Venezuela for some reason. I'm also trying to figure out how open I should be in wanting to hook up when messaging. Appreciate any tips.
FirstClass1
02-10-21, 02:41
SA is offering a Valentines sale this week. This is a good time to sign up at a better rate, and potentially have a fun weekend and beyond.
I had an AMAZING time cumming inside this platinum blonde, pale, blue eyed beauty's young pussy. This girl is voracious!!
Bubba Love
02-10-21, 12:15
It absolutely is true that communicating with someone you know to be underage for the purpose of meeting them is illegal. There have been comments on this thread in the past about this by the guru, HG. I *always* ask that a girl promise me that she is at least 18 very very early in the messaging phase, that's even before I exchange contact info and try to get them to message off the site. Sometimes they volunteer the social media to prove themselves, or say I can see their license. IF they go poof, well, that's a good indicator there wasn't something right. IK one dynamic on this site is older / younger, and many guys here have done the half to one-third their age girls, but heck, 19 is plenty young for me (and YK she may have said that but really been 23 - I can't judge age too well anymore), I have no need to dip dangerously close to jail. Anyway, there's plenty of quality young puss on SA, there's no need to tread even slightly onto anything suspect.Obviously treading in the underage territory is unbelievably stupid, but that wasn't implied in the story that I was addressing. I know this is probably premature, but after a week of navigating the site and having multiple conversations per day, it seems the only concerns should be scammers and blackmailers. The only undercover act worth the time to cops would be an underage predator. So as long as you confirm their age and aren't told, "I'm actually 16", you really shouldn't be worried. There's too much involved to catch one dude at a time from a dating website.
Bubba Love
02-10-21, 12:16
Everyone who favorites me is from Venezuela for some reason. I'm also trying to figure out how open I should be in wanting to hook up when messaging. Appreciate any tips.Yeah this seems to be a common trend. They're looking for green cards.
FirstClass1
02-10-21, 14:43
Everyone who favorites me is from Venezuela for some reason. I'm also trying to figure out how open I should be in wanting to hook up when messaging. Appreciate any tips.The Venezuela profiles are mostly scammers trying to make a quick buck. You can hide or block those profiles if you don't want to see them. While some guys advocate hiding your profile to limit interacting with scam accounts, I keep mine searchable: I've made some great connections by being viewed and favorited by gorgeous girls.
EasyGoingJ
02-10-21, 15:51
Hot as blazes. . . https://www.seeking.com/member/7f180af6-ad05-4698-b374-cdad644e5c23
But, wants to bring a friend. I've tried this several times, every time thinking "It will be different this time" . . . NEVER works out. Dealing with two is beyond my capability. Even tried charming the friend more than the SB, just seems to be a dead end.
Thoughts?I have had many great times, but times when it went wrong as well. With what Seeking has become (scammers and ripoffs } at this point I would only agree after a successful date with the original SB.
But hot as she is I would be very tempted to make an exception !
I have had many great times, but times when it went wrong as well. With what Seeking has become (scammers and ripoffs } at this point I would only agree after a successful date with the original SB.
But hot as she is I would be very tempted to make an exception !Have at it! Post some 'trophie" pics.
SA is offering a Valentines sale this week. This is a good time to sign up at a better rate, and potentially have a fun weekend and beyond.
I had an AMAZING time cumming inside this platinum blonde, pale, blue eyed beauty's young pussy. This girl is voracious!!Care to share a link?
Thanks.
FarFarAway
02-11-21, 14:28
Obviously treading in the underage territory is unbelievably stupid, but that wasn't implied in the story that I was addressing. I know this is probably premature, but after a week of navigating the site and having multiple conversations per day, it seems the only concerns should be scammers and blackmailers. The only undercover act worth the time to cops would be an underage predator. So as long as you confirm their age and aren't told, "I'm actually 16", you really shouldn't be worried. There's too much involved to catch one dude at a time from a dating website.Just responding to this in your post:
I've seen other reports outside of this site of guys enticed by girls who start out saying they are 18 or 19, then declaring they are 17 just before the meet. Good chance that's LEO trying to snatch molesters.
Hot as blazes. . . https://www.seeking.com/member/7f180af6-ad05-4698-b374-cdad644e5c23
But, wants to bring a friend.
Thoughts?I concur. Anytime a pot sb wants to bring her gf / friend / roomate / stepsister / half cousin 2 x removed, etc, they're looking for a nice free dinner + drinks for her & tag along.
Case in point: https://www.seeking.com/member/21cc3d63-7549-49e5-b8e8-bae88e47400f.
I spoke with her over the phone; came off as a nice, down to earth, humble country girl. She was visiting OC with a friend. Long story short, she was chasing a free dinner for her & said friend.
After I luckily scored reservations for 3 on a Sunday night because she wanted a steak dinner, she changed the venue 3 times in 30 min, after first suggesting a high end rooftop bar at a 4+ star hotel on the beach that averages 500/ night for a balcony ocean view.
After the 3rd venue change, I finally wised up & told her I'd pass. In my experience, they all claim safety reasons as to why they insist on bringing a friend with, but in reality, you end up being a third wheel & can barely get a word in as they yap away with each other & order the entire menu.
FirstClass1
02-16-21, 04:59
An account wants to meet as soon as possible. It is a very new account, and I'm pretty sure I've seen these pictures somewhere before. I'm thinking it's TGTBT, and am taking what is said with a grain of salt.
An account wants to meet as soon as possible. It is a very new account, and I'm pretty sure I've seen these pictures somewhere before. I'm thinking it's TGTBT, and am taking what is said with a grain of salt.Your spidey senses are correct since that 2nd pic is a picture of a RL friend of mine from like 10 years ago.
FirstClass1
02-16-21, 10:14
Your spidey senses are correct since that 2nd pic is a picture of a RL friend of mine from like 10 years ago.Thanks for the quick response. The girl in the photos is beautiful. Despite efforts to have marks rely on their smaller head, scammers have a way of showing their hand. In this case, an urgency to meet as quickly as possible for a date at my place, all while *rejecting* standard screening done by many girls (turned down a phone call as well as dinner). These rackets aim to "cash and dash," or more dangerously, resort to blackmail when accessing personal info such as names and addresses. Whoever this scammer was ended up wasting their night waiting in the lobby of a hotel I never checked into, an hour out of their way, saving me and potentially others from a bad night.
I have had many great times, but times when it went wrong as well. With what Seeking has become (scammers and ripoffs } at this point I would only agree after a successful date with the original SB.
But hot as she is I would be very tempted to make an exception !Here is how I have handled these 3 wheel conversations:
Me: Sure, But I will only pay for your dinner.
Girl: No, they have to stay with me the whole time, because I have serious social anxiety / another psycho disorder.
Me: Oh OK. I will contact you later to setup a date.
Then I will block them, no matter how hot and tempting they are.
I am in the SB game for fun: Not to provide a social service or have someone have a nervous breakdown on a Meet.
Looks like my days on SA are coming to a close. I recently posted on the OC SB thread about a little 5'2 French Jewish spinner I've been seeing since Sept. Outside of dinners, drinks, food and an occasional weekend trip. Haven't given her a dime of an allowance, now her lease is running out and while we were out yesterday I jokingly suggested she can stay in one of my spare bedrooms in my TownHouse. I was slightly concerned but she travels 3-4 days a week during the week and she's around only weekends. Had to lock that in though considering she's probably one of the best fucks I've come across. Girls a nymph and does everything. Anyway just wanted to say best of luck to you guys and that sometimes you can get pretty damn lucky.
BTW, I also wanted to mention I've dabbled in a few alternative / goth girls from SA. Might not be your type in terms of how they dress, but they always have 8+ out of 10 bodies and just do anything. Really underrated if you ask me.
FirstClass1
02-23-21, 01:44
Looks like my days on SA are coming to a close. I recently posted on the OC SB thread about a little 5'2 French Jewish spinner I've been seeing since Sept. Outside of dinners, drinks, food and an occasional weekend trip. Haven't given her a dime of an allowance, now her lease is running out and while we were out yesterday I jokingly suggested she can stay in one of my spare bedrooms in my TownHouse. I was slightly concerned but she travels 3-4 days a week during the week and she's around only weekends. Had to lock that in though considering she's probably one of the best fucks I've come across. Girls a nymph and does everything. Anyway just wanted to say best of luck to you guys and that sometimes you can get pretty damn lucky.
BTW, I also wanted to mention I've dabbled in a few alternative / goth girls from SA. Might not be your type in terms of how they dress, but they always have 8+ out of 10 bodies and just do anything. Really underrated if you ask me.Congrats on moving in an instatiable, cute young girl. This is the happy ending no massage parlor can outdo.
PussyDestroyr
02-23-21, 17:52
Congrats on moving in an instatiable, cute young girl. This is the happy ending no massage parlor can outdo.Any chance I can hit that once?
AsenseOfWonder
02-25-21, 01:30
https://www.seeking.com/member/4fae42ed-5c75-414f-81a2-dc28e1058650
Any idea who this is?
https://www.seeking.com/member/4fae42ed-5c75-414f-81a2-dc28e1058650
Any idea who this is?Reads like serious GPS. Expect to be treated like a wallet needing emptying.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4fae42ed-5c75-414f-81a2-dc28e1058650
Any idea who this is?A reverse image search showed Violet Monroe instagram, is that really her? She has been on seeking since 2018, so doubt it's a fake account, but agree that there is a really high risk of GPS.
FirstClass1
02-25-21, 22:12
A reverse image search showed Violet Monroe instagram, is that really her? She has been on seeking since 2018, so doubt it's a fake account, but agree that there is a really high risk of GPS.Yes it's really her. She's met or heard of talent I've previously dated. I just messaged her and she wants a higher end monthly allowance, but still it averages to a reasonable amount when compared to an agency booking rate, considering she's willing to meet 1-2 times a week.
Yes it's really her. She's met or heard of talent I've previously dated. I just messaged her and she wants a higher end monthly allowance, but still it averages to a reasonable amount when compared to an agency booking rate, considering she's willing to meet 1-2 times a week.Watching some of her videos it seems that she can take a serious pounding in the rear end, would be curious to know how it went if you decide to meet her.
TheHuntsman
02-27-21, 22:02
I created an account on SA with pretty decent about me and what I want. I have like 180 unread messages over the last 2 months. Unfortunately I can't get a paid membership since I was previously banned. Any ideas on how to pay for a membership that won't be flagged? Green Dot card? But I know it has to be registered. I know I can probably use a friend's phone number or address for SA, but it's the linking of the two that's has me stumped. Or should I just use another site besides SA?
I created an account on SA with pretty decent about me and what I want. I have like 180 unread messages over the last 2 months. Unfortunately I can't get a paid membership since I was previously banned. Any ideas on how to pay for a membership that won't be flagged? Green Dot card? But I know it has to be registered. I know I can probably use a friend's phone number or address for SA, but it's the linking of the two that's has me stumped. Or should I just use another site besides SA?Use OneVanilla cards.
If you get end up having to create yet another account. . .
Use Ingonito Mode, don't maximize your browser as screen-size is a match-item.
Create new protonmail.com.
Use ProtonVPN (install VPN client provided by ProtonMail / ProtonVPN).
If SA is now requiring Text verification, use free text app on your phone, consider paying for the text app and using it with POTs on SA.
Of course, don't use same pics, DOB, name, etc.
If you don't give them anything to match on, they can't possibly know you're the same person.
I created an account on SA with pretty decent about me and what I want. I have like 180 unread messages over the last 2 months. Unfortunately I can't get a paid membership since I was previously banned. Any ideas on how to pay for a membership that won't be flagged? Green Dot card? But I know it has to be registered. I know I can probably use a friend's phone number or address for SA, but it's the linking of the two that's has me stumped. Or should I just use another site besides SA?If you were able to create an account and can log in without being banned then you have a shot. I personally use Amazon to buy a Google Play card and then just use the number on the card with my other google account that is only used for seeking (make sure to enter the play card number right when you are about to pay on the seeking website, it's almost instant that way), never had an issue. But yes, make sure to use different photos, my second account after I was banned was also banned because they finally recognized me after a few months, I think one of my photos was the same or very similar, didn't know better.
I swear I would pay an extra ten bucks a month not to have to deal with the multiple locations BS. LOL.
FirstClass1
03-04-21, 21:10
Watching some of her videos it seems that she can take a serious pounding in the rear end, would be curious to know how it went if you decide to meet her.We've kept talking. She wants to do a dinner date and take things slow, and get to know one another. She wants someone who appreciates her for her personality, for who she really is.
PussyDestroyr
03-04-21, 22:10
We've kept talking. She wants to do a dinner date and take things slow, and get to know one another. She wants someone who appreciates her for her personality, for who she really is.That's a lot of dick in that ass!
Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too!
Alkalinedio
03-06-21, 17:06
Hello Gents!!
Long time USASG member but a month into the Sugarbaby Seeking Arrangements game. A rookie for sure, hoping I can get some advice from any of you Veteran Sugar Daddys, please *.
Met a few girls already in the 1 month, all fun times.
Random questions not sure if anyone knows the answer. Met a SB last Saturday night, had a bottle of wine at the beach, got a BBBJCIM cute 20 yr old. Got some food after, all good. Have not talked to her since but when I look at her profile shows her last log in Feb 22nd. Does that mean if you can't see their last log-in date change, they blocked you? Or simply she's not been online all week.
Other question, I posted a few pictures in my profile with me and past girls I dated in other countries. Just figured that would disarm them even more if pics with cute girls, a bad idea? Anyone else has that? Maybe I'll delete them.
The last question is one I get the most, "what are you looking for"? I usually say a girl to meet up with to see if we vibe / connect and if so, someone to take on day trip adventures, spoil and make her life a little easier. Curious if you guys can share any better comebacks for the main question most of them always ask. Then comes the PPM talk, etc. I tell them I won't discuss money until we meet, but I'm open to new advice. Definitely takes time to weed through the scams and pros, and also taking it to text and talking, etc. Definitely I agree in all the posts I've seen here where you guys say it takes some work. I had a few girls flake really good. They call, talk on the phone, sound hot, nice pics, agree to meet in a day or two, then boom, silence LOL!! The crazy world this bowl.
Any advice for a rookie is appreciated.
Stay safe.
AD.
Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too!I've friend jumped a few different SBs. They ask if I know anyone that that might want to meet their friend, and I say, yeah. Me. Works pretty well as long as your SB isn't jealous. The ones I've had aren't as long as they still get their end.
Hello Gents!!
Long time USASG member but a month into the Sugarbaby Seeking Arrangements game. A rookie for sure, hoping I can get some advice from any of you Veteran Sugar Daddys, please *.
Met a few girls already in the 1 month, all fun times.
Random questions not sure if anyone knows the answer. Met a SB last Saturday night, had a bottle of wine at the beach, got a BBBJCIM cute 20 yr old. Got some food after, all good. Have not talked to her since but when I look at her profile shows her last log in Feb 22nd. Does that mean if you can't see their last log-in date change, they blocked you? Or simply she's not been online all week.
Other question, I posted a few pictures in my profile with me and past girls I dated in other countries. Just figured that would disarm them even more if pics with cute girls, a bad idea? Anyone else has that? Maybe I'll delete them.
The last question is one I get the most, "what are you looking for"? I usually say a girl to meet up with to see if we vibe / connect and if so, someone to take on day trip adventures, spoil and make her life a little easier. Curious if you guys can share any better comebacks for the main question most of them always ask. Then comes the PPM talk, etc. I tell them I won't discuss money until we meet, but I'm open to new advice. Definitely takes time to weed through the scams and pros, and also taking it to text and talking, etc. Definitely I agree in all the posts I've seen here where you guys say it takes some work. I had a few girls flake really good. They call, talk on the phone, sound hot, nice pics, agree to meet in a day or two, then boom, silence LOL!! The crazy world this bowl.
Any advice for a rookie is appreciated.
Stay safe.
AD.First answer, she just didn't log in. If she blocked you, you would know it because the profile wouldn't be visible to you at all. That's very common, most girls who are not pros aren't hanging around that site too often, they aren't trying to make a full time career of it. They just want to date 2-3 dudes with some money on occasion, not fuck random johns every night.
2nd answer, showing past girlfriends in your profile is about as dumb as them showing past boyfriends in theirs. It has never ever had the effect of making you seem more desirable or safe, just makes you look like a douche. Keep it simple, just show yourself and if you really want to them to swoon for you then take a picture with a cute pet, oldest and most reliable trick in the book.
3rd answer, you mostly nailed it. The part about spoiling their rotten asses and going on "adventures" is exactly what they want to hear. The only thing is, if THEY bring up the topic of PPM then you do need to give them a figure. For a lot of girls if you refuse to talk numbers upfront then they assume you're a game player who's just trying to date hot chicks without paying up the cash. That assumption is usually correct so I wouldn't blame them. Money talks, don't forget that's this is about. Also yeah girls flake in this business, it just comes with the territory. 60% of the time or more expect a no-show, this is why you never go "all in" on getting too excited about an upcoming session. Guys flake just as much, it's game players all the way around until you find the serious people.
Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too!It's more common than you think. Nothing to worry about there, it's not an agency so just flow with it.
PussyDestroyr
03-07-21, 12:20
First answer, she just didn't log in. If she blocked you, you would know it because the profile wouldn't be visible to you at all. That's very common, most girls who are not pros aren't hanging around that site too often, they aren't trying to make a full time career of it. They just want to date 2-3 dudes with some money on occasion, not fuck random johns every night.
2nd answer, showing past girlfriends in your profile is about as dumb as them showing past boyfriends in theirs. It has never ever had the effect of making you seem more desirable or safe, just makes you look like a douche. Keep it simple, just show yourself and if you really want to them to swoon for you then take a picture with a cute pet, oldest and most reliable trick in the book.
3rd answer, you mostly nailed it. The part about spoiling their rotten asses and going on "adventures" is exactly what they want to hear. The only thing is, if THEY bring up the topic of PPM then you do need to give them a figure. For a lot of girls if you refuse to talk numbers upfront then they assume you're a game player who's just trying to date hot chicks without paying up the cash. That assumption is usually correct so I wouldn't blame them. Money talks, don't forget that's this is about. Also yeah girls flake in this business, it just comes with the territory. 60% of the time or more expect a no-show, this is why you never go "all in" on getting too excited about an upcoming session. Guys flake just as much, it's game players all the way around until you find the serious people.
It's more common than you think. Nothing to worry about there, it's not an agency so just flow with it.Listen to Goodboy. The force is strong with him.
FirstClass1
03-08-21, 00:55
Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too!It depends. There are some pro girls who try to fly below the radar after FOSTA made it difficult to operate openly on other sites. Others are semi pro / UTR girls who've done arrangements for years with a girlfriend. I've come across some wild bisexual girls whose friends, sorority sisters, or roommates thought I was cute and also wanted to meet me, either on follow up dates, or in one of my fave experiences, the same night.
A few years ago a cute 19 yo girl I was talking to wanted to meet me but seemingly flaked at the last minute, on the day of our date. I had already booked a room at the Hollywood Roosevelt, checking in at 3 pm, and began to follow up on my backup roster to make the most of the afternoon. By 5 pm I managed to convince a hot dirty blonde 20 year old who worked down the street to meet up for dinner; as we hit it off we went to my room, where I inseminated her super tight pussy for hours (we banged multiple times for weeks after that night). After she leaves by 11 pm, I check my phone, and see a message from the girl who I assumed had flaked, saying she had talked about me with her 18 yo friend, who wanted to meet me, and they convinced each other to share me! After a brief convo I set up an Uber from their apartment in Fairfax, and bring them to my hotel.
By midnight both show up and within minutes, one is sucking on my shaft while the other is sucking my balls; one is riding me cowgirl while the other sits on my face. I cum inside them both, and watch them rub their creampied pussies together into a froth and lick each other's creamed pussies clean. GOD. DAMN. What a night.
Alkalinedio
03-08-21, 02:42
Great advice, well taken and noted!
Advice on the first answer is good intel. I'm starting to notice that too, lots of them don't log in often so I'm getting them to text / phone pretty much quick as possible to keep it warm.
Your spot on.
Yea I took down the pics with the girls a few days ago and all good. Getting used to playing higher volume in terms of how many girls I talk to, to allow for the flake factor and odds of one coming through.
Much appreciated! And stay safe everyone.
AD.
First answer, she just didn't log in. If she blocked you, you would know it because the profile wouldn't be visible to you at all. That's very common, most girls who are not pros aren't hanging around that site too often, they aren't trying to make a full time career of it. They just want to date 2-3 dudes with some money on occasion, not fuck random johns every night.
2nd answer, showing past girlfriends in your profile is about as dumb as them showing past boyfriends in theirs. It has never ever had the effect of making you seem more desirable or safe, just makes you look like a douche. Keep it simple, just show yourself and if you really want to them to swoon for you then take a picture with a cute pet, oldest and most reliable trick in the book.
3rd answer, you mostly nailed it. The part about spoiling their rotten asses and going on "adventures" is exactly what they want to hear. The only thing is, if THEY bring up the topic of PPM then you do need to give them a figure. For a lot of girls if you refuse to talk numbers upfront then they assume you're a game player who's just trying to date hot chicks without paying up the cash. That assumption is usually correct so I wouldn't blame them. Money talks, don't forget that's this is about. Also yeah girls flake in this business, it just comes with the territory. 60% of the time or more expect a no-show, this is why you never go "all in" on getting too excited about an upcoming session. Guys flake just as much, it's game players all the way around until you find the serious people.
It's more common than you think. Nothing to worry about there, it's not an agency so just flow with it.
It depends. There are some pro girls who try to fly below the radar after FOSTA made it difficult to operate openly on other sites. Others are semi pro / UTR girls who've done arrangements for years with a girlfriend. I've come across some wild bisexual girls whose friends, sorority sisters, or roommates thought I was cute and also wanted to meet me, either on follow up dates, or in one of my fave experiences, the same night.
A few years ago a cute 19 yo girl I was talking to wanted to meet me but seemingly flaked at the last minute, on the day of our date. I had already booked a room at the Hollywood Roosevelt, checking in at 3 pm, and began to follow up on my backup roster to make the most of the afternoon. By 5 pm I managed to convince a hot dirty blonde 20 year old who worked down the street to meet up for dinner; as we hit it off we went to my room, where I inseminated her super tight pussy for hours (we banged multiple times for weeks after that night). After she leaves by 11 pm, I check my phone, and see a message from the girl who I assumed had flaked, saying she had talked about me with her 18 yo friend, who wanted to meet me, and they convinced each other to share me! After a brief convo I set up an Uber from their apartment in Fairfax, and bring them to my hotel.
By midnight both show up and within minutes, one is sucking on my shaft while the other is sucking my balls; one is riding me cowgirl while the other sits on my face. I cum inside them both, and watch them rub their creampied pussies together into a froth and lick each other's creamed pussies clean. GOD. DAMN. What a night.Lucky. I never find one that allows cip. I normally ask when I'm almost there, but they say no. Do you ask or you just do it?
Well, the girl is going to be rip shit if she is not on bc and you may regret it paying child support for 18 years. If she is not on bc, then she still might be rip shit depending on her preferences which is usually blowing your load on her body except face and pussy, which in that case might make her even more upset. Best thing to do is be safe and clarify everything beforehand.
Lucky. I never find one that allows cip. I normally ask when I'm almost there, but they say no. Do you ask or you just do it?
FarFarAway
03-08-21, 15:47
Well, the girl is going to be rip shit if she is not on bc and you may regret it paying child support for 18 years. If she is not on bc, then she still might be rip shit depending on her preferences which is usually blowing your load on her body except face and pussy, which in that case might make her even more upset. Best thing to do is be safe and clarify everything beforehand.Well, look, if you aren't exercising operational security and keeping your real identity from the SB, that's your own fault. Don't get me wrong, I don't think you should be irresponsible about that. In my own case, I have a SO and don't mind safes, so I am not looking for BB. However, at the M&G I always talk to the POT about broken condoms and if she'd be willing to use Plan B if that happened. It has never happened to me and I am a dinosaur.
VinoVeritas034
03-08-21, 16:41
So my SB of going on 4 months wants to change up our arrangement. Instead of the generous monthly allowance I am currently giving her, she is willing to forgo her allowance for the next 2-3 months and instead have me pay for plastic surgery (breast augmentation). She's already a DD cup but she wants to upgrade to DDD. Since this has some inherit benefit to me, and the net cost to me is the same, I'm inclined to say yes. Anyone ever dealt with this situation? Probably worth mentioning that I've done quite a bit of my own investigating on this woman's background and, as far as I can tell, she seems like a fundamentally decent person. I also got around to raiding her medicine cabinet and other places where she may store pharmaceuticals, and oddly enough couldn't find anything. Not sure any of these details matter, but thoughts on this scenario are appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
I am not understanding your point. Keeping your identity is a given. The original comment had to do with the issue of communicating cip before the deed. I really don't see much upside and a whole lot of down side from a stealth sperm injection. By the second date, most SBs are going to let you do BBFS or bbfscip if all goes well on 1st date anyway.
Well, look, if you aren't exercising operational security and keeping your real identity from the SB, that's your own fault. Don't get me wrong, I don't think you should be irresponsible about that. In my own case, I have a SO and don't mind safes, so I am not looking for BB. However, at the M&G I always talk to the POT about broken condoms and if she'd be willing to use Plan B if that happened. It has never happened to me and I am a dinosaur.
FarFarAway
03-09-21, 01:17
I am not understanding your point. Keeping your identity is a given. The original comment had to do with the issue of communicating cip before the deed. I really don't see much upside and a whole lot of down side from a stealth sperm injection. By the second date, most SBs are going to let you do BBFS or bbfscip if all goes well on 1st date anyway.You just said he would be paying child support. He wouldn't be if he had not given up his real identity to the SB.
With respect to the rest of your post, I'll just say that there are a wide variety of ways to interact w / SBs, and a wide array of SBs to interact with. You're fishing in a different pond with a different rig than me.
FilmMakr97
03-09-21, 14:16
I don't post often unless I have something to contribute. Years ago I saw a single mom for massage at her apt. Usually ended in BBBJCIM. Saw her twice a month for over a year. She was as normal as normal can be. Good mom, no drugs, drank socially. She needed some new appliances. I told her I'd pay for them as an advance on her massages. Worked out for a month then suddenly her "schedule" got busy and she couldn't make time for our sessions. Clawing and scratching we went another month and I finally threw in the towel. It wasn't worth the hassle. The ghosting, the last minute cancellations, the excuses. There's my story. I will never pay upfront again. I don't care if she's the fuck of a lifetime. Too many women out there to enjoy.
So my SB of going on 4 months wants to change up our arrangement. Instead of the generous monthly allowance I am currently giving her, she is willing to forgo her allowance for the next 2-3 months and instead have me pay for plastic surgery (breast augmentation). She's already a DD cup but she wants to upgrade to DDD. Since this has some inherit benefit to me, and the net cost to me is the same, I'm inclined to say yes. Anyone ever dealt with this situation? Probably worth mentioning that I've done quite a bit of my own investigating on this woman's background and, as far as I can tell, she seems like a fundamentally decent person. I also got around to raiding her medicine cabinet and other places where she may store pharmaceuticals, and oddly enough couldn't find anything. Not sure any of these details matter, but thoughts on this scenario are appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
You just said he would be paying child support. He wouldn't be if he had not given up his real identity to the SB.
With respect to the rest of your post, I'll just say that there are a wide variety of ways to interact w / SBs, and a wide array of SBs to interact with. You're fishing in a different pond with a different rig than me.Pregnancy brings a whole new level of bullshit, and while we can go on and on about airtight "opsec," you better have been anonymous with the girl. If you checked into a hotel, whether she knows your name or not, I promise she can get a lawyer and track you down. Same with a burner phone, unless you use something like Mysudo that doesn't attribute a number or PII.
That said, I wouldn't want to know or think there's a kid out there that's mine and isn't cared for appropriately. But then again, I made sure a few years back that I can't make babies anymore.
Just wondering but has anyone experienced a SB offering friends for an arrangement? I'm not complaining or anything but I'm just wondering if an agency is behind the works or they really are friends at all. I've met 2 of the friends already. All pretty and bb too!Yes, I have. Like IRL its kinda weird. I was in a LTR with a SB and out of nowhere she said 'so, I've got this friend. ' I actually turned it down because her friend was a 8/10 body but a 3/10 face. A friend of mine on SA had the same thing happen. The real problem if you go forward with it is compensation.
I don't post often unless I have something to contribute. Years ago I saw a single mom for massage at her apt. Usually ended in BBBJCIM. Saw her twice a month for over a year. She was as normal as normal can be. Good mom, no drugs, drank socially. She needed some new appliances. I told her I'd pay for them as an advance on her massages. Worked out for a month then suddenly her "schedule" got busy and she couldn't make time for our sessions. Clawing and scratching we went another month and I finally threw in the towel. It wasn't worth the hassle. The ghosting, the last minute cancellations, the excuses. There's my story. I will never pay upfront again. I don't care if she's the fuck of a lifetime. Too many women out there to enjoy.THIS. Never EVER pay up front. EVER.
ShowMeHow23
03-10-21, 15:15
I will say, 2021 was a turn of the page as it seems more SB have been more willing to meet up than I've had since mid to late last year. Maybe it was different from what others have seen, and I'm sure I'd get flamed for spending $400 on a SB when others are seeing some for $ or $$ but I get exactly what I want each time with the ones that agree to terms with me. Either way, my latest SB left back to AR. Petite little spinner that was amazing in the sack. Good luck out there everyone.
VinoVeritas034
03-10-21, 15:32
THIS. Never EVER pay up front. EVER.Thank you gentlemen. After further consideration I will not be doing this advance.
HollywoodGuy
03-12-21, 01:03
This girl favorited me today. She is the epitome of the grandiose thinking that has infected some of these girls.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c33777d0-bab6-4efc-a6df-93cc88649a96
Guys... get what you want and don't settle for less, unless you are paying way less. lol.
$ - you might get lucky or something close to it, or maybe just a bj or hj or daty
$$ - you are definitively getting laid, and it may be awesome, but she wont be a 9 or 10 in looks
$$$ - at this point if you aren't getting it all, then you aren't doing the work.
$$$$ - your time is just too valuable to bother. Money is relative after all
$$$$$ - you want the best and you like to spend money... nothing wrong with that, it can be a high in itself
I will say, 2021 was a turn of the page as it seems more SB have been more willing to meet up than I've had since mid to late last year. Maybe it was different from what others have seen, and I'm sure I'd get flamed for spending $400 on a SB when others are seeing some for $ or $$ but I get exactly what I want each time with the ones that agree to terms with me. Either way, my latest SB left back to AR. Petite little spinner that was amazing in the sack. Good luck out there everyone.I spend the same. It's actually a way better deal than doing bb w / high mileage old kgirls (who for some odd reason, most people think they are young but are really mid 30's if you're lucky) and other bb HX girls since you'll spend pretty much the same or more. Plus you spend more than a HR with a SB w / low mileage and prettier too! At least in my eyes, the ones I've had are no lower than 8. 5 in looks and bb too. Just haven't found one that lets me cip.
Yeah, I understand now where you are coming from. However, like another guy said, if a person is determined enough they will find you.
You just said he would be paying child support. He wouldn't be if he had not given up his real identity to the SB.
With respect to the rest of your post, I'll just say that there are a wide variety of ways to interact w / SBs, and a wide array of SBs to interact with. You're fishing in a different pond with a different rig than me.
This girl favorited me today. She is the epitome of the grandiose thinking that has infected some of these girls.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c33777d0-bab6-4efc-a6df-93cc88649a96
From her profile:
My name is Emely, im into modeling and fashion. im a such a cool person and fun to be around, i like trying new things. i love shopping and eating i love all types of food, i love getting gifts and new stuff, text me to get to know me more and meet me, and Im also okay with distance or something online thats not a problem for me (I have my wishlist available 😊) scammers stay away dont waist my time.
im seeking for a sugar daddy who is caring and respectful, a daddy who is gonna spoil me and take care of me, im expensive baby and im not afraid to show it 🥰, im open to anything but intimacy
Can't fucking spell and she's got crazy GPS. These girls just make me shake my head. This is what we get after a generation of chicks that have spent their lives so far making ducklips at a phone camera all day and getting "liked".
From her profile:
My name is Emely, im into modeling and fashion. im a such a cool person and fun to be around, i like trying new things. i love shopping and eating i love all types of food, i love getting gifts and new stuff, text me to get to know me more and meet me, and Im also okay with distance or something online thats not a problem for me (I have my wishlist available 😊) scammers stay away dont waist my time.
im seeking for a sugar daddy who is caring and respectful, a daddy who is gonna spoil me and take care of me, im expensive baby and im not afraid to show it 🥰, im open to anything but intimacy
Can't fucking spell and she's got crazy GPS. These girls just make me shake my head. This is what we get after a generation of chicks that have spent their lives so far making ducklips at a phone camera all day and getting "liked".And she has that shitty filter that everyone uses these days that tell you right away she is not very attractive. I have been doing this for perhaps a decade and I have had great experiences. My tastes are more for Latinas and African American women and that suits me fine. Most White girls on the site are not attractive to me. The ones that are, are out of my budget and cannot be any better in bed than a number of women I have been with. They may equal them, but it isn't possible for them to be better. I am of the opinion everyone can get what they want on the site if they are patient and know when to walk away. I also wonder if some of these women are knowingly rolling the dice to see if some guy falls for it. Every women that I had negotiated with has dropped hundreds off her asking price. It doesn't always land in my budget and that's fine because there is always, ALWAYS another one waiting. After this year of very little sex, I am playing around with going higher for some but they won't be ones that I will have a long term thing with because they will be more about the money. I like the women that, whether they know it or not, are looking for a connection that feels like a relationship. Even if that is FWB. The ones who are smoking hot and want 6 to a grand don't interest me, not because of their price, but because of what that price represents. I have gone there in the past in Nevada and I don't regret it but the only a certain level of ecstasy that can be reached regardless of attractiveness and ability.
FarFarAway
03-14-21, 13:54
Yeah, I understand now where you are coming from. However, like another guy said, if a person is determined enough they will find you.I have considered this a lot, I would have a lot to lose if a hostile SB tracked me down, so I have been 100% certain not to give them anything they can use. I would be very very surprised if a girl could do it. I never let them see the license plate on my vehicle. I use a burner phone with a google voice #. While I have no doubt that google or the NSA could find out who I am from my electronic messaging use patterns, the question is, could the girl. I use only cash, I have the girl get the rooms. Can you tell me what my vulnerabilities are?
SoCalJimmy
03-14-21, 15:23
I have considered this a lot, I would have a lot to lose if a hostile SB tracked me down, so I have been 100% certain not to give them anything they can use. I would be very very surprised if a girl could do it. I never let them see the license plate on my vehicle. I use a burner phone with a google voice #. While I have no doubt that google or the NSA could find out who I am from my electronic messaging use patterns, the question is, could the girl. I use only cash, I have the girl get the rooms. Can you tell me what my vulnerabilities are?So what is recommended to pay for SA membership? I don't want to use my credit card since that can be tracked back to me? Has anyone tried a prepaid visa without rejection? Any info would be great.
I have considered this a lot, I would have a lot to lose if a hostile SB tracked me down, so I have been 100% certain not to give them anything they can use. I would be very very surprised if a girl could do it. I never let them see the license plate on my vehicle. I use a burner phone with a google voice #. While I have no doubt that google or the NSA could find out who I am from my electronic messaging use patterns, the question is, could the girl. I use only cash, I have the girl get the rooms. Can you tell me what my vulnerabilities are?That's easy.
Your COCK.
One day that little head will slip up and do most of the thinking
It's inevitable.
FarFarAway
03-14-21, 19:06
So what is recommended to pay for SA membership? I don't want to use my credit card since that can be tracked back to me? Has anyone tried a prepaid visa without rejection? Any info would be great.This is a perennial question posted on sugar threads. You should also look back at the archives for the Richmond, VA thread. I have done this recently, the answer is still the same. If you get a OneVanilla Visa prepaid debit card, not reloadable, that can be used to pay for membership. I buy them in pharmacies. I have also heard that if you have the SA app on an Android smartphone and get a GooglePay debit card, you can use the $ on that.
Many other prepaid cards may not work, the payment processor for SA may be outside the US, and allegedly many of the prepaid cards do not permit international charges. I wasn't to emphasize again, you must get THAT EXACT card. No guarantee about others that might have worked in the past, but may not now. If you have a problem, you might be able to contact SA customer service and give them the debit card #, and they run it. That worked some time ago. A couple years.
FarFarAway
03-14-21, 19:08
That's easy.
Your COCK.
One day that little head will slip up and do most of the thinking
It's inevitable.I don't get your point. I've been in the sugar bowl for 3+ years, it hasn't happened yet. What would I do that would reveal my identity to the girl. I am *extremely* disciplined about this. I once allowed a hotel receipt to hang around my house, that was the closest to a screw up, but I ditched it and dodged the SO.
PriscillaM
03-14-21, 19:45
I have considered this a lot, I would have a lot to lose if a hostile SB tracked me down, so I have been 100% certain not to give them anything they can use. I would be very very surprised if a girl could do it. I never let them see the license plate on my vehicle. I use a burner phone with a google voice #. While I have no doubt that google or the NSA could find out who I am from my electronic messaging use patterns, the question is, could the girl. I use only cash, I have the girl get the rooms. Can you tell me what my vulnerabilities are?Here is the problem with "sugar dating" the "nonpros". A pro never talks. You will not hear of a girl on any of the websites with "pros" going after you for blackmail. They are prostitutes and it is part of the code. Now, there are exceptions and you run into those when you start paying over market or attempt a relationship. Witness the 45th president and the hoes that talked.
If you are part of this girl's bread and butter, and you go on a carb free diet and stop paying her, you have a problem and she is not going away easy.
First, if you are ever in the shower washing all of her numerous orgasms off you, she checked your wallet and has your DL.
Second, how does she not see your car? You must be parking far away and in the nile delta.
Third, you have a profile that would identify you.
Fourth, she has your photograph, she must know where you are coming from, and she may have a boyfriend, er, I mean pimp, who followed you after you left.
Fifth, I assume when she gets the room, it is on her credit card for incidentals so it is truly only you doing the cash. I assume you never card any of the expenses, of course, except for your monthly charge for seeking non pros who fuck guys for money.
Any girls on SA who charges 2-3 times the going rate is not stupid. She is just not part of the code of silence of pros, because she is a, wait for it, non pro.
If they charge, they pros. End of
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I have considered this a lot, I would have a lot to lose if a hostile SB tracked me down, so I have been 100% certain not to give them anything they can use. I would be very very surprised if a girl could do it. I never let them see the license plate on my vehicle. I use a burner phone with a google voice #. While I have no doubt that google or the NSA could find out who I am from my electronic messaging use patterns, the question is, could the girl. I use only cash, I have the girl get the rooms. Can you tell me what my vulnerabilities are?If that google number is attached to your real identity in any way, an attorney (or LE) could subpoena google for your info. Assuming all the precautions you say you're taking are, in fact, faithful at all times, that would be the biggest chink in your opsec. Again, they'd need a reason to get it done, like a complaint or paternity suit.
Then there's the whole, have someone besides her get your license plate. Just saying.
That's easy.
Your COCK.
One day that little head will slip up and do most of the thinking
It's inevitable.This is the way.
PussyDestroyr
03-14-21, 20:55
If that google number is attached to your real identity in any way, an attorney (or LE) could subpoena google for your info. Assuming all the precautions you say you're taking are, in fact, faithful at all times, that would be the biggest chink in your opsec. Again, they'd need a reason to get it done, like a complaint or paternity suit.
Then there's the whole, have someone besides her get your license plate. Just saying.Easy solution, get your tubes tied boys. .
FarFarAway
03-15-21, 08:54
First, if you are ever in the shower washing all of her numerous orgasms off you, she checked your wallet and has your DL.
Second, how does she not see your car? You must be parking far away and in the nile delta.
Third, you have a profile that would identify you.
Fourth, she has your photograph, she must know where you are coming from, and she may have a boyfriend, er, I mean pimp, who followed you after you left.
Fifth, I assume when she gets the room, it is on her credit card for incidentals so it is truly only you doing the cash. I assume you never card any of the expenses, of course, except for your monthly charge for seeking non pros who fuck guys for money.
Any girls on SA who charges 2-3 times the going rate is not stupid. She is just not part of the code of silence of pros, because she is a, wait for it, non pro.I guess I am just a lot more careful than you would be. Wallet? In the FC? Never. No jewelry, nothing. Car key, cash for the baby. Part of opsec even for guys seeing professionals. She's not just seen my car, she's been in it. As I posted, I pull my plate before I roll up to the M&G. When I go to the FC, I stop a block away and pull it, so if there are any security cameras, it isn't caught. This does not pose a problem in my jurisdiction, in some other places, it could be risky vis a vis the local constabulary. What do you mean, a 'profile' that would identify me? My SA profile? I don't have my real pictures on that site. I share one with her by text before meeting, I guess that's a risk. I don't see a good way to avoid that though. Everything in my profile is part of my sugar cover story. Every SD needs one. The girls I have had sugar relationships with didn't have any men in their lives so far as I know, and no, no one followed me. I give the SB cash for the room, and she does *everything* - I have no connection to it other than telling her what website to use. Hotelsbyday. There's nothing on my credit card. And as reflected in other nearby posts on this thread, you can effectively pay for SA membership with 'cash', via a specific prepaid debit card. That's the whole point. SA, even if it were hacked like Ashley Madison, has no easy way to know who I am.
If you really think that all members of the worlds oldest profession has a greater code of behavior than a particular woman who I have checked out and vetted, you're due some sympathy. The place I recommend girls book the FC, it always puts the name of the guest on the TV. So, I get her full name and can run a background check on one of these many people search sites on the web. This info isn't really useful to use during the relationship, but if it were to turn sour and she's coming at me with extortion boasts (I've heard it all - 'I know your wife' you have ammunition to shoot back. Seriously, do you think someone with either real $ or professional reputation at stake would get into this game without all sorts of weapons on their side? I am all about calculated risk. And controlling for it.
What is it with these L.A. GPS SB's that want $1000 and block you when you offer 500?
Easy solution, get your tubes tied boys. .I remember the first time I fucked a chick after getting my big V. Didn't have to worry about her being on birth control, didn't have to even think about pulling out. I just loved, and still do, firing my deactivated load inside these little hookers that don't think they're hookers.
Of course, when the big apocalypse happens, I won't be able to help repopulate the planet, so there's that draw-back.
Here is the problem with "sugar dating" the "nonpros". A pro never talks. You will not hear of a girl on any of the websites with "pros" going after you for blackmail. They are prostitutes and it is part of the code. Now, there are exceptions and you run into those when you start paying over market or attempt a relationship. Witness the 45th president and the hoes that talked.
If you are part of this girl's bread and butter, and you go on a carb free diet and stop paying her, you have a problem and she is not going away easy.
First, if you are ever in the shower washing all of her numerous orgasms off you, she checked your wallet and has your DL.This was my favorite part of this post. Thanks for the smirk.
Any girls on SA who charges 2-3 times the going rate is not stupid. She is just not part of the code of silence of pros, because she is a, wait for it, non pro.
If they charge, they pros. End of
A2This is what I keep trying to tell everyone. Why don't they believe it?? I'm not saying you can't pretend they aren't hookers, but at the end of the day (or hour) at least be honest with yourself.
LWashington
03-19-21, 14:26
What is it with these L.A. GPS SB's that want $1000 and block you when you offer 500?Plenty of whales out there who hit the lottery / were born with it and want to waste their money LOL.
Thankfully there's even more girls, so just got to roll on and you'll hit.
Alkalinedio
03-19-21, 14:47
Funny story, buddy of mine (not on here or SA) had his V done and divorced twice, etc. He had a girl on the side he was banging and was smashing her raw. After he had the surgery, she tried to say she was a month preggo and he said, nice try bxxxx and cut her. Girls can be scanless!
Stay safe.
AD.
I remember the first time I fucked a chick after getting my big V. Didn't have to worry about her being on birth control, didn't have to even think about pulling out. I just loved, and still do, firing my deactivated load inside these little hookers that don't think they're hookers.
Of course, when the big apocalypse happens, I won't be able to help repopulate the planet, so there's that draw-back.
PussyPumper
03-20-21, 00:09
Yeah, I understand now where you are coming from. However, like another guy said, if a person is determined enough they will find you.I am very much with FarFarAway on this one!
I use the same security measures he does, with the exception of the license plate removal (not all SA women ever see my car).
The other steps he described are easy to do / arrange. As with him, I use a years old dumb burner phone. Not a smartphone, and paid for with prepaid cards. I have no photos on SA, and never exchange photos that appear anywhere public. So no use of photos from social media, etc. Most of my texting is done on the web using free disposable numbers. I access both web browsers and SA using Tor and/or VPN. So no IP tracking, and no text record even on the burner phone, other than a few last min directions to the door. Nothing with my real name or location.
Those steps all cut risk dramatically. Other than that, lots of women on SA are not that smart. Some are very smart indeed of course, and I tend to favor UC and equivalent students (ha ha). But most, not so much.
Using this approach has saved me from drama on several occasions over the years.
- The date who was wearing an ankle bracelet (tracker), when I got her clothes off! (Did not see her again).
- The dates who turned out to be druggies. Did not see them again.
- One lovely girl I saw, there was a message next day on my burner number from a "police officer". Did not even bother to listen to the rest of the message. No follow-up.
- The odd crazy.
So, thankfully no real issues other than being scammed in my early days, in over 4 years on SA.
PussyPumper
03-20-21, 00:22
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/seeking-arrangement-secret/id1522286546
PussyPumper
03-20-21, 01:21
I have also heard that if you have the SA app on an Android smartphone and get a GooglePay debit card, you can use the $ on that.
This is one detail where I differ!
I avoid Google in all its forms. Google apps, and Google Voice.
Google are infamous as world leading data aggregators.
They put 2 +2 together to come up with well over 5 all the time.
Use Google, and the chances that they will know the "real" you are high.
I have read that they even check who else has a Google phone with you in your car, if you have a Google / Android phone.
FarFarAway
03-20-21, 09:27
This is one detail where I differ!
I avoid Google in all its forms. Google apps, and Google Voice.
Google are infamous as world leading data aggregators.
They put 2 +2 together to come up with well over 5 all the time.
Use Google, and the chances that they will know the "real" you are high.
I have read that they even check who else has a Google phone with you in your car, if you have a Google / Android phone.I do understand this. Yes, it's true, they have ways of identifying that are amazing. Somewhat similar to what happened with David Petraeus, when the NSA figured out that he was having an affair with his biographer b / c their two devices that were connecting to the same email account were in close proximity (same hotel room). They never sent an email, they just logged into the same account and wrote message they saved as drafts.
The issue is, Google voice is just too damn convenient. I guess my thinking is that Google isn't very likely to try to show me up to my SO, whereas a baby might if she was pissed by something I had done and knew my real identity.
I have heard everyone discussing the downsides of many current POTs on SA. I have experienced it to, I do think there are a lot more problems. I absolutely cut those off at the pass. I am blocking every one that is even a slight bit bitchy, or doesn't fit into my deal. I am 60+, if a girl has an age cut off of anything below 55, I just block the profile, never to be seen again, cluttering up my searches, etc.
I mostly don't tell girls off when we have conflicts. In soCal right now there's a pretty blond who says she is pregnant. It's an interest of mine, something I've never done, so we messaged. Eventually she admits she's not even in CA right now, the usual crap, wants to start the 'arrangement' online, once she gets here we'll get together. Yeah right. I told her calmly that I am very experienced and there'll be no allowance until an in person meeting. She gives the 'nice' kiss-off, YK, I hope you can find what you're looking for on here, and I just block her and delete all those messages. She's not very smart when she's trying to pull that shit with someone who has a profile that is a few years old.
TheHuntsman
03-24-21, 23:30
I've been trying to get back into after the huge mess of my previous relationship with a girl from SA. Since I've been banned I've tried 2 other sites, but it's been horrible. The lack of girls on these sites is horrible compared to SA. Also it's as if girls are using covid as an excuse to meet and are asking for online only. WTF!? Girls are also asking for money before ever meeting or even a deposit before. Also girls are quoting prices like 500 just to talk and nothing sexual at meet up.
I've also explored a bit of a reddit forum and feel as if I got roasted for saying I've only done ppm. Everything I've learned about using SA from this site over the years has been ppm. Are we in the minority in not giving weekly allowances? On Reddit it's as if they're making me out to be a monster. When I know every girl I've met has had an enjoyable time with me.
I've also explored a bit of a reddit forum and feel as if I got roasted for saying I've only done ppm. Everything I've learned about using SA from this site over the years has been ppm. Are we in the minority in not giving weekly allowances? On Reddit it's as if they're making me out to be a monster. When I know every girl I've met has had an enjoyable time with me.Reddit sugar forum is mostly a platform for pros and semi-pros SBs. Their whole outlook is how to get the most from men while doing the least possible. So of course all you'll hear is whatever benefits the girls most and they couldn't care less about the men's experience or point of view. Things like monthly allowance and 'how dare you offer less than 2 k a month' are all over the forum. Once you understand where it's coming from you can safely ignore it and just go on your merry way. It's just hoes complaining for the most part.
Reddit sugar forum is mostly a platform for pros and semi-pros SBs. Their whole outlook is how to get the most from men while doing the least possible. So of course all you'll hear is whatever benefits the girls most and they couldn't care less about the men's experience or point of view. Things like monthly allowance and 'how dare you offer less than 2 k a month' are all over the forum. Once you understand where it's coming from you can safely ignore it and just go on your merry way. It's just hoes complaining for the most part.Their entire model is to be a rinser.
Reddit sugar forum is mostly a platform for pros and semi-pros SBs. Their whole outlook is how to get the most from men while doing the least possible. So of course all you'll hear is whatever benefits the girls most and they couldn't care less about the men's experience or point of view. Things like monthly allowance and 'how dare you offer less than 2 k a month' are all over the forum. Once you understand where it's coming from you can safely ignore it and just go on your merry way. It's just hoes complaining for the most part.This explains much as to why newbies are asking so much these days. They think it's market standard rate.
This explains much as to why newbies are asking so much these days. They think it's market standard rate.It is amazing how just a handful of providers are controlling the narrative on Reddit and setting the expectations on what is acceptable for the rest of us. Talk about BBBJ on Reddit and you will be treated like a creepy pervert.
TheHuntsman
03-27-21, 10:48
So I kind of think of this place a family of guys that share information. I haven't been on here as much recently. But when my last postef everyone could see how I fell for a girl I met on SA. So I'm just going to open up and be honest. I hope that's okay here. It miss the days when the legend B Malibu was here and he was such a great guy and open about his experiences and even falling for a provider at an AMP.
So one of my biggest issues coming back into the game is comparing everyone to my previous relationship. I've been off and on SA for a few years and I've had a lot of different experiences. Majority fwb and I've had two long-term arrangements if you will before, but nothing like this girl. The thing is I feel like she kind of declawed me. I spent most my life having casual relations with girls. And now I feel like I don't know how to act how to get girls on these sites anymore. I go in being way too nice. The longer you're in this you're bound to take a loss or two. I've taken two small losses before, but not like this. I've had a few losses recently when trying to get back in it. I never gave money up front before but when I met this previous girl I really just liked her so much I gave her 60 before we met and she was shocked and I was shocked. From there we talked everyday and saw each other every week. We never exchanged money per visit.
But now I find myself without my killer instinct anymore. I talked to these girls online I'm almost trying to recreate the situation or the dynamic me and the other girl had, by trying to be nice. But it never works out. I don't know I just don't have that firmness anymore I'm too much of a simp now. I know I'm just kind of ranting but I had to share this somewhere.
HollywoodGuy
03-27-21, 13:54
So I kind of think of this place a family of guys that share information. I haven't been on here as much recently. But when my last postef everyone could see how I fell for a girl I met on SA. So I'm just going to open up and be honest. I hope that's okay here. It miss the days when the legend B Malibu was here and he was such a great guy and open about his experiences and even falling for a provider at an AMP.
So one of my biggest issues coming back into the game is comparing everyone to my previous relationship. I've been off and on SA for a few years and I've had a lot of different experiences. Majority fwb and I've had two long-term arrangements if you will before, but nothing like this girl. The thing is I feel like she kind of declawed me. I spent most my life having casual relations with girls. And now I feel like I don't know how to act how to get girls on these sites anymore. I go in being way too nice. The longer you're in this you're bound to take a loss or two. I've taken two small losses before, but not like this. I've had a few losses recently when trying to get back in it. I never gave money up front before but when I met this previous girl I really just liked her so much I gave her 60 before we met and she was shocked and I was shocked. From there we talked everyday and saw each other every week. We never exchanged money per visit.
But now I find myself without my killer instinct anymore. I talked to these girls online I'm almost trying to recreate the situation or the dynamic me and the other girl had, by trying to be nice. But it never works out. I don't know I just don't have that firmness anymore I'm too much of a simp now. I know I'm just kind of ranting but I had to share this somewhere.The kids today call it simping.
TheHuntsman
03-27-21, 14:07
The kids today call it simping.I was once I mighty jungle cat. Now I'm a declawed house cat. You know it's hard to find someone you really connect with. Yeah I've said I fell hard for her. Now I'm totally simping with other girls to recreate it. Whatever connection I previously had with her it was unique. Out of all the girls I've met on SA only 3 were different. Two of them we are still friends to this day. I'm just struggling to get back to normal me.
So I kind of think of this place a family of guys that share information. I haven't been on here as much recently. But when my last postef everyone could see how I fell for a girl I met on SA. So I'm just going to open up and be honest. I hope that's okay here. It miss the days when the legend B Malibu was here and he was such a great guy and open about his experiences and even falling for a provider at an AMP.
So one of my biggest issues coming back into the game is comparing everyone to my previous relationship. I've been off and on SA for a few years and I've had a lot of different experiences. Majority fwb and I've had two long-term arrangements if you will before, but nothing like this girl. The thing is I feel like she kind of declawed me. I spent most my life having casual relations with girls. And now I feel like I don't know how to act how to get girls on these sites anymore. I go in being way too nice. The longer you're in this you're bound to take a loss or two. I've taken two small losses before, but not like this. I've had a few losses recently when trying to get back in it. I never gave money up front before but when I met this previous girl I really just liked her so much I gave her 60 before we met and she was shocked and I was shocked. From there we talked everyday and saw each other every week. We never exchanged money per visit.
But now I find myself without my killer instinct anymore. I talked to these girls online I'm almost trying to recreate the situation or the dynamic me and the other girl had, by trying to be nice. But it never works out. I don't know I just don't have that firmness anymore I'm too much of a simp now. I know I'm just kind of ranting but I had to share this somewhere.I feel you buddy. Just curious: are you single? If you are, maybe you should try other traditional dating sites. On SA, if you act like a simp, you will most definitely be treated like one. None of these girls on there are looking for boyfriends. Just keep that in mind.
So I kind of think of this place a family of guys that share information. I haven't been on here as much recently. But when my last postef everyone could see how I fell for a girl I met on SA. So I'm just going to open up and be honest. I hope that's okay here. It miss the days when the legend B Malibu was here and he was such a great guy and open about his experiences and even falling for a provider at an AMP.
So one of my biggest issues coming back into the game is comparing everyone to my previous relationship. I've been off and on SA for a few years and I've had a lot of different experiences. Majority fwb and I've had two long-term arrangements if you will before, but nothing like this girl. The thing is I feel like she kind of declawed me. I spent most my life having casual relations with girls. And now I feel like I don't know how to act how to get girls on these sites anymore. I go in being way too nice. The longer you're in this you're bound to take a loss or two. I've taken two small losses before, but not like this. I've had a few losses recently when trying to get back in it. I never gave money up front before but when I met this previous girl I really just liked her so much I gave her 60 before we met and she was shocked and I was shocked. From there we talked everyday and saw each other every week. We never exchanged money per visit.
But now I find myself without my killer instinct anymore. I talked to these girls online I'm almost trying to recreate the situation or the dynamic me and the other girl had, by trying to be nice. But it never works out. I don't know I just don't have that firmness anymore I'm too much of a simp now. I know I'm just kind of ranting but I had to share this somewhere.It's a tough balancing act to be tough with the right amount of tender. Maybe search out some women that you aren't crazy attracted to and play the game with them. That way you remove some of the risk. I totally empathize with you, I had one long term find someone and one that was probably my unicorn just start a legit relationship this month. Right before the vaccine! Godamnit. But take heart that there are a ton of new girls on the site ever single day. Good luck.
It seems SA is a big waste of time and money these days. I sure missed the good old days of Craiglist.
Curious, where else are you finding young, naive, and amateur pussies?
TheHuntsman
03-27-21, 14:51
It's a tough balancing act to be tough with the right amount of tender. Maybe search out some women that you aren't crazy attracted to and play the game with them. That way you remove some of the risk. I totally empathize with you, I had one long term find someone and one that was probably my unicorn just start a legit relationship this month. Right before the vaccine! Godamnit. But take heart that there are a ton of new girls on the site ever single day. Good luck.As a man you have to be firm and fair with whatever woman you're with. Yes it's hard. Her and I just clicked from the beginning. Yes we met on SA but it wasn't about that. I have to realize like any relationship I can't recreate the past.
I had a 3 yr relationship with a girl from UCI that I met off SA. No money was ever exchanged. She just liked being with an okay man and would spend weekends at my house.
A combination of the game changing a bit and my feelings for that girl have made it hard. Like I said I feel like I've been domesticated LOL. Thanks for the kind words bro.
TheHuntsman
03-27-21, 14:54
It seems SA is a big waste of time and money these days. I sure missed the good old days of Craiglist.
Curious, where else are you finding young, naive, and amateur pussies?I've tried secret benefits and sugar daddy meet. I don't like the way both sites are set up. Very shitty. Although I met a young girl from ucr on sb and have had a nice ppm relationship right now. It's funny when I go to pick her up because she lives in the apt complex directly across the street from my previous arrangement. Every time I go to pick her up I can see my ex bedroom window open and light on.
TheHuntsman
03-27-21, 17:13
I feel you buddy. Just curious: are you single? If you are, maybe you should try other traditional dating sites. On SA, if you act like a simp, you will most definitely be treated like one. None of these girls on there are looking for boyfriends. Just keep that in mind.I'm not looking for a gf either. Just something fun and casual. Or so I'm telling myself. As I said I'm a little mixed up after my previous encounter. I honestly feel declawed.
I was once I mighty jungle cat. Now I'm a declawed house cat. You know it's hard to find someone you really connect with. Yeah I've said I fell hard for her. Now I'm totally simping with other girls to recreate it. Whatever connection I previously had with her it was unique. Out of all the girls I've met on SA only 3 were different. Two of them we are still friends to this day. I'm just struggling to get back to normal me.Not to be harsh, but perhaps you were always really a declawed house cat, and the mighty jungle hunter was the illusion. I don't see how someone can lose perspective like you're describing when it comes to a transactional relationship, particularly when you state that you've had so many.
My advice, pull on your big boy SD pants and get busy. Nothing helps repair a wounded ego or getting overone chick like getting on another one.
Good luck.
TheHuntsman
03-27-21, 23:43
Not to be harsh, but perhaps you were always really a declawed house cat, and the mighty jungle hunter was the illusion. I don't see how someone can lose perspective like you're describing when it comes to a transactional relationship, particularly when you state that you've had so many.
My advice, pull on your big boy SD pants and get busy. Nothing helps repair a wounded ego or getting overone chick like getting on another one.
Good luck.Thank you and your didn't come off harsh at all bro. It wasn't transactional at all. Yes, I do have to put on my big boy sd pants. I'm just working thru this.
HollywoodGuy
03-28-21, 12:37
It seems SA is a big waste of time and money these days. I sure missed the good old days of Craiglist.
Curious, where else are you finding young, naive, and amateur pussies?If you stick to the 18-20 crowd you will always find gold. But if your version of a 10 is in an older age bracket, then idk what to suggest.
TheHuntsman
03-28-21, 13:34
Yesterday I met up with a 21 yr old latina from SDM. She was really chill and the damage was 300. Tight tight little spinner body. Will definitely see her again.
So far she's the only girl on SDM that I've met. Still way too many girls on their asking for online only or 400+ per meet. One girl said 3 for head and 4 for everything. I'll post more later about my experiences on SDM.
FirstClass1
03-28-21, 15:07
This explains much as to why newbies are asking so much these days. They think it's market standard rate.A lot of "newbies" are actually veteran hustlers who constantly set up new profiles, maybe were even booted off the site previously, and are experienced with the shakedown. A true newbie often won't know how much to ask for, and will be happy with any kind of attention and allowance. Keep in mind, there are Zoomers who will fuck a guy their age just for buying them a slice of pizza, or let a rando off of Twitter cum in their ass 20 minutes after a right swipe. These are the girls who can be lots of fun with less hassle. Treat them well enough and they'll give you what you want.
FirstClass1
03-28-21, 16:23
If you stick to the 18-20 crowd you will always find gold. But if your version of a 10 is in an older age bracket, then idk what to suggest.Most definitely. Fresh young girls are absolutely delicious. Even the most promiscuous among 18-20 yo non-pros will very rarely have a triple-digit body account, which becomes a larger possibility among older women, who often after many years of physical wear and tear, bad relationships, drama and baggage, up to and including an STI and single parenthood, will want to take out all of their accumulated psychoses and resentments on you. Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3XkgbOFyJU
Having less experience, younger girls will often have less entitlements or demands, and gladly offer you the prime of their beauty and physical prowess in exchange for great memories. All you need to do is to treat them better than guys their age. If they are very inexperienced in the FC they may need more direction, but that is easily resolved after a few sessions, and by then they will know exactly what you like and happily do it for you. I just love a juicy, tight, super sweet pussy that hungrily takes my sperm.
If you stick to the 18-20 crowd you will always find gold. But if your version of a 10 is in an older age bracket, then idk what to suggest.If there's anyone that know about finding gold, you are the man. Maybe I just need to move out to where you guys are. Even the 18-20 crowd are now demanding outrageous $$ or are only interested in online and selling pics / videos.
Most definitely. Fresh young girls are absolutely delicious. Even the most promiscuous among 18-20 yo non-pros will very rarely have a triple-digit body account, which becomes a larger possibility among older women, who often after many years of physical wear and tear, bad relationships, drama and baggage, up to and including an STI and single parenthood, will want to take out all of their accumulated psychoses and resentments on you. Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3XkgbOFyJU
Having less experience, younger girls will often have less entitlements or demands, and gladly offer you the prime of their beauty and physical prowess in exchange for great memories. All you need to do is to treat them better than guys their age. If they are very inexperienced in the FC they may need more direction, but that is easily resolved after a few sessions, and by then they will know exactly what you like and happily do it for you. I just love a juicy, tight, super sweet pussy that hungrily takes my sperm.That's one lovely find, enjoy buddy.
TheHuntsman
03-29-21, 20:59
It's funny but if you hang around long enough on tinder or instagram you're bound to run across girls who's profiles you've seen on SA.
Most definitely. Fresh young girls are absolutely delicious. Even the most promiscuous among 18-20 yo non-pros will very rarely have a triple-digit body account, which becomes a larger possibility among older women, who often after many years of physical wear and tear, bad relationships, drama and baggage, up to and including an STI and single parenthood, will want to take out all of their accumulated psychoses and resentments on you. Case in point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3XkgbOFyJU
Having less experience, younger girls will often have less entitlements or demands, and gladly offer you the prime of their beauty and physical prowess in exchange for great memories. All you need to do is to treat them better than guys their age. If they are very inexperienced in the FC they may need more direction, but that is easily resolved after a few sessions, and by then they will know exactly what you like and happily do it for you. I just love a juicy, tight, super sweet pussy that hungrily takes my sperm.I fucking hate Steve Harvey and I still watched that because it was so unbelievable. Tell me that chubby chick doesn't need a big cock in her ass to straighten her out.
Anyway, really "first class" girl you got there. Do everything you can to ruin her for the next guy! .
Started following the forum and then COVID hit. Got my second shot so thought it'd be a good time to check out SA.
Any recommendations on profile pics? I'm married and my job requires me to have quite an online presence.
Also, do you guys share your real name with SBs?
FirstClass1
03-30-21, 19:04
Started following the forum and then COVID hit. Got my second shot so thought it'd be a good time to check out SA.
Any recommendations on profile pics? I'm married and my job requires me to have quite an online presence.
Also, do you guys share your real name with SBs?Many guys have already mentioned never to use images that can be linked to your professional or personal social accounts. Some guys will use pictures of men who have enough resemblance to them. Others will crop their public images, or pose in such a way as to conceal one's identity (back shots, etc). These photos are taken solely for use on sugar sites to mitigate the risk that a reverse image search will link to your more sensitive accounts. Check out the Richmond, VA board for more detailed advice on all aspects of OpSec, and any other questions you may have.
Many guys have already mentioned never to use images that can be linked to your professional or personal social accounts. Some guys will use pictures of men who have enough resemblance to them. Others will crop their public images, or pose in such a way as to conceal one's identity (back shots, etc). These photos are taken solely for use on sugar sites to mitigate the risk that a reverse image search will link to your more sensitive accounts. Check out the Richmond, VA board for more detailed advice on all aspects of OpSec, and any other questions you may have.Will check it out. Thanks!
Tried looking on reddit but can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for. So my current SB kept switching time with in the HR everytime we would meet and I got irritated the last time as it kept happening the last few times. I don't mind if it was change a day before but an hour is not acceptable to me. I cancelled our last meeting. I plan on doing it from now on every time she pulls this off on me. My question is, will she get the message or will this inevitably end the arrangement?
Tried looking on reddit but can't seem to find the answer I'm looking for. So my current SB kept switching time with in the HR everytime we would meet and I got irritated the last time as it kept happening the last few times. I don't mind if it was change a day before but an hour is not acceptable to me. I cancelled our last meeting. I plan on doing it from now on every time she pulls this off on me. My question is, will she get the message or will this inevitably end the arrangement?Tell her that you work off your calendar and can't be moving shit around on a whim. Let her know every time she does it that you'll cancel. If you do cancel, don't contact her again until she hits you up. Let her know this is non-negotiable and will result in you replacing her. Tell her replacing her might take a whole afternoon.
Frankly, not putting up with any bullshit is suitable for life advice, not just a bunch of hookers that don't think they are hookers.
Tell her that you work off your calendar and can't be moving shit around on a whim. Let her know every time she does it that you'll cancel. If you do cancel, don't contact her again until she hits you up. Let her know this is non-negotiable and will result in you replacing her. Tell her replacing her might take a whole afternoon.
Frankly, not putting up with any bullshit is suitable for life advice, not just a bunch of hookers that don't think they are hookers.Creamfire:
I second the above. This falls under "life advice". Just don't put up with any bullshit from any woman. Make yourself your own mental point of origin and always be thinking "what's important to me? Anything outside that question is irrelevant. You don't get pissy about it but understand that the less BS you tolerate, the less you'll asked to tolerate. She changes the time on you last minute? Tell her "sorry babe, I have a schedule that I have to respect. Maybe next week". That's it. She gets on the program or she doesn't. Either way you only care about what matters to you. What you realize over time is that more you internalize this lesson the less you have to put with this kind of nonsense.
FirstClass1
03-31-21, 17:15
This is a cross post from the Batimore SB forum. If you guys are wondering why so many garbage accounts have been popping up, there are professional rinsers who are coaching young girls how to make easy money without ever meeting:
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906971371759275270?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906974793422195973?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.tiktok.com/@callikoa/video/6906977999346732294?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v3
https://www.instagram.com/callikoaaa/
This hooker coaches her audience how to lead on their marks on why they can't meet, while collecting allowances. This parasite's socials are dripping with all the things she buys and does with simp money, and she is 22 but claims to be 18 in her SB accounts. Her "boyfriend" is happy to pimp her out as she alledgedly "never meets anyone. ".
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