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HollywoodGuy
05-16-20, 21:07
What works best for me. When it works.

1 - let them know I already have two GF's. sometimes tell them nothing (but only initially)... lots of variables here

2 - only pay them in cash (after the fact and never buy them any gifts).

3 - give them the best fuck and oral they probably ever had (when motivated to do so).

4 - usually just see them for 1 to 2 hours and then it's over.

5 - never let them call me anything but Daddy and I only call them baby, a good little wh**e, Daddy's special princess, little girl, etc. (you get the drift).

6 - make sure the sex is as nasty/kinky as possible. make them pose as dirty as possible.

7 - constantly tell them how pretty they are while doing it. Especially when posing or sucking me off.

8 - get inside their head with the most taboo role play possible

The newer and especially younger girls are more likely to want to fulfill fantasies of prostitution, forced sex, testing limits, etc. (and YMWV from girl to girl)

This model guarantees some pretty strict boundaries that actually helps keep things in line. Once in a blue moon you will meet someone that could be more of a GF over a longer period of time. Personally I am not really looking for that. But I know it will happen when it happens and here and there I've done it but without ever looking for it or pretending monogamy when it does happen.

So what's in it for them? Good sex, a guaranteed paycheck thats always on time (and non-negotiable), and no clingy guy to worry about.

Just my 2 cents.

Large Ess
05-16-20, 23:21
Still interested in comparing notes with anyone who has seen this lady. I was extremely happy with our experiences but then she sent me the oddest message that I have received in my two decades of mongering. She wasn't angry with my actions or anything like that. I don't want to say anything more because I want to see what others have experienced with her. She has been on SA for at least three years and is still active.

HollywoodGuy
05-17-20, 12:54
What the girls figure out soon enough.

1 - low ballers aren't ROB's.

2 - chit chatters / small talkers are time wasters.

3 - most SD's are married.

4 - it's not about how much money a guy has. It's how much is he willing to spend.

5 - it's competitive out there.

6 - newbies are easy targets. Don't be in a rush if you just signed on.

So guys. Just put your offer out there as soon as possible and be ready to meet-up within a reasonable length of time. And don't worry about the competition as there are 5 x more girls than guys willing to date them. And no matter what a girl says, never get angry or riled up. Just move on quietly.

MrmikeUcla
05-17-20, 14:16
What works best for me. When it works.

1 - let them know I already have two GF's. sometimes tell them nothing (but only initially)... lots of variables here

2 - only pay them in cash (after the fact and never buy them any gifts).

3 - give them the best fuck and oral they probably ever had (when motivated to do so).

4 - usually just see them for 1 to 2 hours and then it's over.

5 - never let them call me anything but Daddy and I only call them baby, a good little wh**e, Daddy's special princess, little girl, etc. (you get the drift).

6 - make sure the sex is as nasty/kinky as possible. make them pose as dirty as possible.

7 - constantly tell them how pretty they are while doing it. Especially when posing or sucking me off.

8 - get inside their head with the most taboo role play possible

The newer and especially younger girls are more likely to want to fulfill fantasies of prostitution, forced sex, testing limits, etc. (and YMWV from girl to girl).What do you usually offer these sugar babies? New to this.

StudBucket
05-17-20, 14:21
Hello, recently new to the guide. Long time ago, I started with adult massage parlors because that's all I could afford while attending school. Then recently moved to the LA Kgirl scene which has been very nice but definitely looking for more. I am fairly young (still in my 20's and in great shape albeit a little more round since the gym closures LOL), but definitely have a lucrative job and have amassed a good amount of money over the years. I recently started a profile on SA but have yet to finish it. Joined SA because I can't do the bar, nightclub scene since I am in a relationship. I am essentially looking for a Side piece (I recently had one, would spoil her with food, clothes, perfume, anything she wanted but then tried to cut it off and she threatened to ruin my relationship) so obviously looking for that side piece relationship minus the drama. Was wondering if anyone can give me guidance as whether I will find this on SA. Any thoughts welcomed to be honest.You absolutely can find many girls on SA that will be okay being your side piece. Many of them want a no strings attached setup while some of them want 1 sugar daddy to spoil them and these are the types you want to stay away from. Reading their profiles can sometimes say a lot, you want to stay away from the ones that say I am not an escort, or looking for one daddy to sweep me off my feet. Furthermore, I am direct with them when I speak to them for the first time before the meet up and ask them what they are looking to find and this will tell if they are more liberal or conservative in their thinking. I tell them I want a NSA, friends with benefits type relationship and want to meet them on PPM, pay per meet basis. The girls that are cool with pay per meet are the ones that are not looking for serious or meeting with one guy, will typically see several guys and will not care if you are not able to see them too often. Currently, I have 2 girls now that are on my roster and are not hounding me, being clingy, etc. And I encourage them to see other guys if they want. You also have to limit your communication and not treat them as your girlfriend, although be nice and say good night or the standard hope all is well, etc. Type texts but come to them more as a platonic friend. As Hollywood Guy says, it would not even hurt to tell them you have a girlfriend and see how they respond. If they do not like it, move on. There are too many to choose from. Hope this helps.

Dash
05-17-20, 15:13
What the girls figure out soon enough.

1 - low ballers aren't ROB's.

2 - chit chatters / small talkers are time wasters.

3 - most SD's are married.

4 - it's not about how much money a guy has. It's how much is he willing to spend.

5 - it's competitive out there.

6 - newbies are easy targets. Don't be in a rush if you just signed on.

So guys. Just put your offer out there as soon as possible and be ready to meet-up within a reasonable length of time. And don't worry about the competition as there are 5 x more girls than guys willing to date them. And no matter what a girl says, never get angry or riled up. Just move on quietly.I concur and because I am reading the posts everywhere which are about Seeking I too am sometimes surprised when I read about a nasty reply to some female with unreasonable requests.

Of course they often make absurd unreasonable requests, but that is not surprising to me.

Some girls make unreasonable requests; some guys may make "unreasonable" offers. It's a give and take and I don't take offense.

SFVsag
05-17-20, 15:57
Both sides want to push things to the limit. Every request or offer is unreasonable. Until someone says yes to it.

HollywoodGuy
05-17-20, 18:23
What do you usually offer these sugar babies? New to this.I am a low baller ($) a date guy. But it also depends on the girls age, race & time on the site. If they are older, had a profile for 12 month or more and have blue eyes and blonde hair, expect to pay more. Dark skinned or tan, younger and a new profile you may pay less. But only pay what you can afford. Plenty to choose from. If you pay more you will be able to get the model quality looking girls but with no guarantee of the quality of their skills. I have had bomb GFE/PSE sex for a $ and shitty sex for 5 and even 10 times that amount back in the day. Current income forces me to pay low, but I ain't complaining. If you like AA and latinas you will have no trouble finding amazing body/average to good looking girls for a $... if you have some game. No game? Just add a $ to that and you will pretty much be home free. If you are paying more than that... then maybe you just don't care for the hunt or only fuck 9's and 10's (face and body). But I prefer wholesale pricing to retail. Like the old song says "you better shop around".

JackMiles
05-18-20, 04:50
Longtime lurker here. Anyway just got into SA and I've been getting constantly favorited by profiles from South America LOL. Pretty annoying, of course. Had a nice long exchange with a profile claiming to be from LA. Seemed legit for a while and didn't raise any red flags until she said she was a manager at a salon shop and was working daily from 10 to 4.

My next question was "so your salon is open?

I got blocked immediately after that. Good times.

FarFarAway
05-18-20, 11:50
Longtime lurker here. Anyway just got into SA and I've been getting constantly favorited by profiles from South America LOL. Pretty annoying, of course. Had a nice long exchange with a profile claiming to be from LA. Seemed legit for a while and didn't raise any red flags until she said she was a manager at a salon shop and was working daily from 10 to 4.

My next question was "so your salon is open?

I got blocked immediately after that. Good times.I recommend keeping your profile hidden from search. It's what I do. If you get on her profile she can see yours. But no one can find you if you haven't already been at least interested. If you go to a profile that is obviously just fake, block it.

JackMiles
05-18-20, 17:29
I recommend keeping your profile hidden from search. It's what I do. If you get on her profile she can see yours. But no one can find you if you haven't already been at least interested. If you go to a profile that is obviously just fake, block it.Great advice. I'll be sure to do that.

Another thing I've noticed is that a majority of the SBs are women who had no intention of meeting at all, even pre-COVID. So I've a large uptick in "online babies". Maybe like 90 percent of the ones I've been going back and forth with aren't willing to meet up but would like xx amount for pics, etc. These are just some fucked up times man.

HitNQuit805
05-18-20, 20:05
You absolutely can find many girls on SA that will be okay being your side piece. Many of them want a no strings attached setup while some of them want 1 sugar daddy to spoil them and these are the types you want to stay away from. Reading their profiles can sometimes say a lot, you want to stay away from the ones that say I am not an escort, or looking for one daddy to sweep me off my feet. Furthermore, I am direct with them when I speak to them for the first time before the meet up and ask them what they are looking to find and this will tell if they are more liberal or conservative in their thinking. I tell them I want a NSA, friends with benefits type relationship and want to meet them on PPM, pay per meet basis. The girls that are cool with pay per meet are the ones that are not looking for serious or meeting with one guy, will typically see several guys and will not care if you are not able to see them too often. Currently, I have 2 girls now that are on my roster and are not hounding me, being clingy, etc. And I encourage them to see other guys if they want. You also have to limit your communication and not treat them as your girlfriend, although be nice and say good night or the standard hope all is well, etc. Type texts but come to them more as a platonic friend. As Hollywood Guy says, it would not even hurt to tell them you have a girlfriend and see how they respond. If they do not like it, move on. There are too many to choose from. Hope this helps.Thanks stud bucket for the advice. I still haven't committed to paying the SA monthly fee, but have been looking around the site to see the kind of girls I'm interested in and would be willing to meet up with. I definitely know I'm the ppm type of guy, I don't have much free time and when I am free I spend it with my girl when she isn't working. I am about a 40 minute drive from LA and was wondering how far girls are willing to drive or if you usually drive to them? Or meet somewhere in the middle? Lastly, feel free to message me here or PM me details regarding ppm. Highest I have gone is 800 with a model type in Santa Monica, and 600 a couple times with girls in LA.

JackMiles
05-19-20, 15:32
So I connected with a potential SB last night who went by the screen name of "Rockstar" or something. Can't remember fully since I've already blocked her. But we went back and forth for a couple of days before deciding to meet up. Her pics looked good. Late 20's, Persian, former professional dancer. Or so she claimed. Showed me some YouTube music video from like 13 years ago in which she appeared in as a belly dancer. Looked great, but again this is more than a decade ago. Also sent me some pics that looked pretty good. So, we agreed to meet up after agreeing on a "teaser" of sorts since she was local.

So when I drove onto her street, there she was. Looked a lot thinner than her pics, but it was dark so I decided to let her in my car. As soon as she got in, all I could smell was her awful rank breath. It was if she hadn't brushed in weeks. Also, she just looked like a tweaker. Just strung out, baggy eyes, slurred speech, lots of red flags.

I didn't know what to do at first, so we drove around and I just couldn't get past her odors. So after some small chit chat and whatnot, I said fuck it. I turned the car around and pulled back into her block. I just told her I couldn't do it because I was too nervous. So I told her sorry for wasting her time and I gave her 40 bucks to leave. She felt bad for taking my money at first, but it didn't take her long to bail.

Best 40 I've spent in my life.

HollywoodGuy
05-20-20, 03:04
So I connected with a potential SB last night who went by the screen name of "Rockstar" or something. Can't remember fully since I've already blocked her. But we went back and forth for a couple of days before deciding to meet up. Her pics looked good. Late 20's, Persian, former professional dancer. Or so she claimed. Showed me some YouTube music video from like 13 years ago in which she appeared in as a belly dancer. Looked great, but again this is more than a decade ago. Also sent me some pics that looked pretty good. So, we agreed to meet up after agreeing on a "teaser" of sorts since she was local.

So when I drove onto her street, there she was. Looked a lot thinner than her pics, but it was dark so I decided to let her in my car. As soon as she got in, all I could smell was her awful rank breath. It was if she hadn't brushed in weeks. Also, she just looked like a tweaker. Just strung out, baggy eyes, slurred speech, lots of red flags.

I didn't know what to do at first, so we drove around and I just couldn't get past her odors. So after some small chit chat and whatnot, I said fuck it. I turned the car around and pulled back into her block. I just told her I couldn't do it because I was too nervous. So I told her sorry for wasting her time and I gave her 40 bucks to leave. She felt bad for taking my money at first, but it didn't take her long to bail.

Best 40 I've spent in my life.That will keep her high for another 24 hours. I am sure she was happy.

Luv Big Tetas
05-24-20, 21:22
So I've been on SA for a few years and occasionally I've been reported for "offering money for sex" and I was able to clear my cache, and make a new profile, and no problem. But in March I got booted when I tried to renew my membership, I put in my credit card info and my profile was locked. So I tried using a different card, no dice. Then I tried doing it from a different computer and still got booted, finally I used an ipad and a prepaid credit card with a different name, and somehow they flagged me and booted me on the same day AFTER I had already paid my fee. That one hurt. 90 bucks for nothing. Have any of you had that problem? I haven't used any of these other sites other SA, any advice on other sites?

HollywoodGuy
05-25-20, 01:34
So I've been on SA for a few years and occasionally I've been reported for "offering money for sex" and I was able to clear my cache, and make a new profile, and no problem. But in March I got booted when I tried to renew my membership, I put in my credit card info and my profile was locked. So I tried using a different card, no dice. Then I tried doing it from a different computer and still got booted, finally I used an ipad and a prepaid credit card with a different name, and somehow they flagged me and booted me on the same day AFTER I had already paid my fee. That one hurt. 90 bucks for nothing. Have any of you had that problem? I haven't used any of these other sites other SA, any advice on other sites?This appears to be an ongoing problem, I am in shock and awe that's its never happened to me. I am convinced that all the girls that do this are what they are calling "karens" on social media, (i.e. - privileged white girls)(probably the reason I have been so lucky). Any experienced member care to share their experience on how they circumnavigated this problem?

KeenKeen
05-25-20, 01:45
So I've been on SA for a few years and occasionally I've been reported for "offering money for sex" and I was able to clear my cache, and make a new profile, and no problem. But in March I got booted when I tried to renew my membership, I put in my credit card info and my profile was locked. So I tried using a different card, no dice. Then I tried doing it from a different computer and still got booted, finally I used an ipad and a prepaid credit card with a different name, and somehow they flagged me and booted me on the same day AFTER I had already paid my fee. That one hurt. 90 bucks for nothing. Have any of you had that problem? I haven't used any of these other sites other SA, any advice on other sitesMost site's log IP addresses, so your's is probably flagged. They change once in a while, depending on what rules are implemented by your internet provider. One simple fix is to use our phone's internet. I might be wrong, but it's you $90 =.

Crow999
05-26-20, 04:29
What about using tool or SW that mask your IP address?

Something like IPsharkk?


So I've been on SA for a few years and occasionally I've been reported for "offering money for sex" and I was able to clear my cache, and make a new profile, and no problem. But in March I got booted when I tried to renew my membership, I put in my credit card info and my profile was locked. So I tried using a different card, no dice. Then I tried doing it from a different computer and still got booted, finally I used an ipad and a prepaid credit card with a different name, and somehow they flagged me and booted me on the same day AFTER I had already paid my fee. That one hurt. 90 bucks for nothing. Have any of you had that problem? I haven't used any of these other sites other SA, any advice on other sites?

Trimee1
05-27-20, 07:02
I don't care if it's the Queen of Sheeba, Medusa willing to give me dome with all her heads, all three Charlie's Angels, one of Charlie Sheen's throwaways, or Phoebe Cates stepping out of the pool on a hot summer day in that itty-bitty red bikini.

I never send money up front. Not even a sawbuck for gas. There are always other ways.

It's enough that we all get ripped off from time to time with terrible, lackluster service. I can deal with that. It's part of the game. Being a sacrificial lamb is not.

You are, however, right about all the amateurs trying to get into the game. I have an ad for sugar daddy up on Craigs / Tinder. I get stoooopid replies all day long from 18 year olds. What do I have to do? Is the most common question. Girl, what the fuck do you think you have to do? Anyway, since they are new to the game, they have no idea how to price accordingly. One wanted $1100 in cash app before we met. Another wanted a $1700 allowance to meet (get this) twice a month. Another wanted $2500 a month allowance, plus a capped out credit card. She also told me she didn't want to fuck every time we met.

Ok, so I'll go get a dog, if I want company. Or talk to a priest. On second thought, scratch the priest. He may also want to hit me up for cash. The devil already has my soul.

So, please don't send money. I'm highly convinced all these people are 16 year old boys hiding in their mom's basement somewhere in Flint, Michigan.

I even got a threat from this guy who said he was a member of a Zetas cartel operating in Arizona. He sent me pics of people being beheaded. I told him if he sent me another rpic I would chop off his cock and throw it out to the homeless in skid row. I also told him since he had just threatened an American citizen, the FBI would be contacting him. Crickets after.LOL I got the same exact cartel text message with the pictures of the beheaded people.

FarFarAway
05-27-20, 22:51
What about using tool or SW that mask your IP address?

Something like IPsharkk?For all the ways to keep your self hidden / anonymous, look at the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread. I use a browser that has a built-in VPN. However, that one (Epic) doesn't work w / SA right now. You can use Tor, which bounces your internet signal all around the world, and its different every time you use it (even change it on the fly if you want). It may also be that they are looking at the MAC address of your device. You can spoof that too. Finally, if you are using a home cable internet wireless, you might also try unplugging the modem and then restarting it after a judicious amount of time, that should reset the IP address. Do all of those things, don't reuse photos if they were on a profile that got banned, use a new prepaid you've never used before, change your 'sugar' pretext information (name address, etc.) and you should be good. Oh, yeah, don't use any email addresses you used before. I have a service (hushmail) that gives me unlimited ability to make aliases, so that is pretty easy.

Crow999
05-30-20, 02:46
Nowadays, wireless cards are easily changeable. It will involve buying another wireless card and replacing the one you have installed.


For all the ways to keep your self hidden / anonymous, look at the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread. I use a browser that has a built-in VPN. However, that one (Epic) doesn't work w / SA right now. You can use Tor, which bounces your internet signal all around the world, and its different every time you use it (even change it on the fly if you want). It may also be that they are looking at the MAC address of your device. You can spoof that too. Finally, if you are using a home cable internet wireless, you might also try unplugging the modem and then restarting it after a judicious amount of time, that should reset the IP address. Do all of those things, don't reuse photos if they were on a profile that got banned, use a new prepaid you've never used before, change your 'sugar' pretext information (name address, etc.) and you should be good. Oh, yeah, don't use any email addresses you used before. I have a service (hushmail) that gives me unlimited ability to make aliases, so that is pretty easy.

HollywoodGuy
05-30-20, 14:24
For all the ways to keep your self hidden / anonymous, look at the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread. I use a browser that has a built-in VPN. However, that one (Epic) doesn't work w / SA right now. You can use Tor, which bounces your internet signal all around the world, and its different every time you use it (even change it on the fly if you want). It may also be that they are looking at the MAC address of your device. You can spoof that too. Finally, if you are using a home cable internet wireless, you might also try unplugging the modem and then restarting it after a judicious amount of time, that should reset the IP address. Do all of those things, don't reuse photos if they were on a profile that got banned, use a new prepaid you've never used before, change your 'sugar' pretext information (name address, etc.) and you should be good. Oh, yeah, don't use any email addresses you used before. I have a service (hushmail) that gives me unlimited ability to make aliases, so that is pretty easy.I hope I never have to do any of this, but thanks for the advice. I still believe most of the girls that complain and cause 90% of the problems are white. I also believe that most of the SD's here are dating white. So be careful what you say online. And walk away from any bad attitudes you encounter, do not take it as a challenge. Plenty of fish in the sea.

OhHellYeah
06-03-20, 22:05
A couple weeks in it has been a bust for me. Tons of girls I'm texting with. Only met one girl so far but it wasn't fun. Seems like most of them don't understand the pleasing our needs part of the deal. And the ones that are eager just act like (and are) high priced escorts. Guess I've got a couple more weeks to check it out but overall I've been disappointed. Even though my expectations were low going in.

Domino727
06-03-20, 22:46
A couple weeks in it has been a bust for me. Tons of girls I'm texting with. Only met one girl so far but it wasn't fun. Seems like most of them don't understand the pleasing our needs part of the deal. And the ones that are eager just act like (and are) high priced escorts. Guess I've got a couple more weeks to check it out but overall I've been disappointed. Even though my expectations were low going in.Every time a SB asks me, "What do I have to do?" I immediately cut off contact.

It seems they all just want to hang out and get paid to have coffee. I've had girs that wanted $2500 a month to meet once a week, and not always sex. Other girls wanted $1700 a month to meet, get this, twice.

Don't get me wrong, I've found several keepers, but they are few and far between. You have to target the 18 year olds who are starting out. Ask if they have daddy fantasies, get them to talk about it, then you have them.

Remember, we are the predators!

HollywoodGuy
06-04-20, 22:47
You have to target the 18 year olds who are starting out. Ask if they have daddy fantasies, get them to talk about it, then you have them.Hey... you stealin my playbook. 18-20 .. and ask for ID if you have any suspicions. no ID no sugar. I only broke that rule once but it turned out she was legit. But it took me 3 weeks to know for sure. I wouldn't risk that today. I am sure I have met more than a few that signed up on their 18th bday. And we have all seen the ones that say 18 and their profile is 2 years old. Be careful out there.

PussyDestroyr
06-04-20, 22:56
A couple weeks in it has been a bust for me. Tons of girls I'm texting with. Only met one girl so far but it wasn't fun. Seems like most of them don't understand the pleasing our needs part of the deal. And the ones that are eager just act like (and are) high priced escorts. Guess I've got a couple more weeks to check it out but overall I've been disappointed. Even though my expectations were low going inSame for me, tried a month and had zero success. Either meet up and they are not even close to the pics the took from 2000, or ghosted after a while. Might try again after CV. We'll see.

HepCat096
06-05-20, 01:44
"Seems like most of them don't understand the pleasing our needs part of the deal. And the ones that are eager just act like (and are) high priced escorts. " This.

I've had replies to my arrangement offers say "Let's do 600 ppm. (1 min later) *800. (I politely decline). I can do 700". I wonder how she contracted GPS in that 1 minute?

Anyways there seems to be a pattern lately. First it was 'ONLINE only or No meetups because of covid".

Now, literally every other profile or pm has something along these lines:

" I'm currently taking care of (or living with) my aunt (grandmother / father, uncle, 70 year old dad, great grandmother / father, 2nd cousin twice removed.) & due to covid 19 & looting & rioting can we start something online till everything calms down & is more safe?

Or they really dangle the carrot on the stick & make you "invest" in an online relationship first & meet up that week if we get along. I avoid any profile that has their venmo / cash app / paypal info. I'd manage the expectations like you said, but this is precisely why I still browse the hobbying sites.

Domino727
06-05-20, 05:21
Hey... you stealin my playbook. 18-20 .. and ask for ID if you have any suspicions. no ID no sugar. I only broke that rule once but it turned out she was legit. But it took me 3 weeks to know for sure. I wouldn't risk that today. I am sure I have met more than a few that signed up on their 18th bday. And we have all seen the ones that say 18 and their profile is 2 years old. Be careful out there.Can you imagine having Hillary as a sugar baby? Gross!

I just got home. Banged this petit little waifish black girl, a non pro, up in Lancaster. She wanted $85 for an hour, but she rode me so sweet I gave her a hondo. Same story. No father, she helps her mom raise her 2 siblings. But she was really sweet.

Definitely going to see her once a week. Only problem is, I have to find an hourly motel up in Lancaster / Palmdale.

OhHellYeah
06-05-20, 11:30
"Seems like most of them don't understand the pleasing our needs part of the deal. And the ones that are eager just act like (and are) high priced escorts. " This.

I've had replies to my arrangement offers say "Let's do 600 ppm. (1 min later) *800. (I politely decline). I can do 700". I wonder how she contracted GPS in that 1 minute?

Anyways there seems to be a pattern lately. First it was 'ONLINE only or No meetups because of covid".

Now, literally every other profile or pm has something along these lines:

" I'm currently taking care of (or living with) my aunt (grandmother / father, uncle, 70 year old dad, great grandmother / father, 2nd cousin twice removed.) & due to covid 19 & looting & rioting can we start something online till everything calms down & is more safe?

Or they really dangle the carrot on the stick & make you "invest" in an online relationship first & meet up that week if we get along. I avoid any profile that has their venmo / cash app / paypal info. I'd manage the expectations like you said, but this is precisely why I still browse the hobbying sites.I'm starting to think the folks that post success stories, it's just a marketing campaign for the site.

I've had some interesting text exchanges but it's been boring to be honest. Hasn't supplemented my regular hobbying at all.

JackMiles
06-05-20, 12:04
"Seems like most of them don't understand the pleasing our needs part of the deal. And the ones that are eager just act like (and are) high priced escorts. " This.

I've had replies to my arrangement offers say "Let's do 600 ppm. (1 min later) *800. (I politely decline). I can do 700". I wonder how she contracted GPS in that 1 minute?

Anyways there seems to be a pattern lately. First it was 'ONLINE only or No meetups because of covid".

Now, literally every other profile or pm has something along these lines:

" I'm currently taking care of (or living with) my aunt (grandmother / father, uncle, 70 year old dad, great grandmother / father, 2nd cousin twice removed.) & due to covid 19 & looting & rioting can we start something online till everything calms down & is more safe?

Or they really dangle the carrot on the stick & make you "invest" in an online relationship first & meet up that week if we get along. I avoid any profile that has their venmo / cash app / paypal info. I'd manage the expectations like you said, but this is precisely why I still browse the hobbying sites.If they use the term PPM, they are either UTR or straight up pros. A non pro wouldn't be familiar with that term. Other obvious red flags: "I can host" or someone with an account that dates back two to three years. Plenty of them out there.

HollywoodGuy
06-06-20, 02:21
Can you imagine having Hillary as a sugar baby? Gross!

I just got home. Banged this petit little waifish black girl, a non pro, up in Lancaster. She wanted $85 for an hour, but she rode me so sweet I gave her a hondo. Same story. No father, she helps her mom raise her 2 siblings. But she was really sweet.

Definitely going to see her once a week. Only problem is, I have to find an hourly motel up in Lancaster / Palmdale.So many times I wanted to go up there. So many awesome little hotties for good prices. Just too MFing far. LOL.

PriscillaM
06-06-20, 11:29
A couple weeks in it has been a bust for me. Tons of girls I'm texting with. Only met one girl so far but it wasn't fun. Seems like most of them don't understand the pleasing our needs part of the deal. And the ones that are eager just act like (and are) high priced escorts. Guess I've got a couple more weeks to check it out but overall I've been disappointed. Even though my expectations were low going in.Why would you play on the site when you can just go on skip the game and get an Asian who is an undergrad at CSUN with BBBFS CIP for 100? Let me know if you want digits.

PussyDestroyr
06-07-20, 10:34
Why would you play on the site when you can just go on skip the game and get an Asian who is an undergrad at CSUN with BBBFS CIP for 100? Let me know if you want digits.Can you share digits with me? Sounds really interesting.

Hob411
06-09-20, 01:58
Why would you play on the site when you can just go on skip the game and get an Asian who is an undergrad at CSUN with BBBFS CIP for 100? Let me know if you want digits.


Can you share digits with me? Sounds really interesting.Would appreciate the digits as well sir.

FilmMakr97
06-09-20, 12:09
Why would you play on the site when you can just go on skip the game and get an Asian who is an undergrad at CSUN with BBBFS CIP for 100? Let me know if you want digits.Skip the games (plural) is the site. I spent a few minutes perusing the site. I didn't see nary an ad from any "undergrads" from any university. Fake pics. Prices are ridiculously cheap. Ripe for upsell once you get there if there is a there. All are call or text and we will call you back with location. Daddy used to always tell me "If it's too good to be true, it probably is."

JackMiles
06-10-20, 03:12
Why would you play on the site when you can just go on skip the game and get an Asian who is an undergrad at CSUN with BBBFS CIP for 100? Let me know if you want digits.Does her screen name on SA start with a why? If so.

GentlemanDonny
06-11-20, 06:28
Do sugar daddies who marry an escort fuck raw?

HollywoodGuy
06-11-20, 18:57
Do sugar daddies who marry an escort fuck raw?I,ll let you know. My (I guess now x) GF just got engaged to her SD. Lets see if they even make it to the alter.

Domino727
06-11-20, 21:34
Do sugar daddies who marry an escort fuck raw?Google her. Prime reason you never get serious with these skanks.

PussyDestroyr
06-11-20, 23:51
Google her. Prime reason you never get serious with these skanks.Holy smoke. Noted.

Rockhard 441
06-11-20, 23:53
"Seems like most of them don't understand the pleasing our needs part of the deal. And the ones that are eager just act like (and are) high priced escorts. " This.

I've had replies to my arrangement offers say "Let's do 600 ppm. (1 min later) *800. (I politely decline). I can do 700". I wonder how she contracted GPS in that 1 minute?

Anyways there seems to be a pattern lately. First it was 'ONLINE only or No meetups because of covid".

Now, literally every other profile or pm has something along these lines:

" I'm currently taking care of (or living with) my aunt (grandmother / father, uncle, 70 year old dad, great grandmother / father, 2nd cousin twice removed.) & due to covid 19 & looting & rioting can we start something online till everything calms down & is more safe?

Or they really dangle the carrot on the stick & make you "invest" in an online relationship first & meet up that week if we get along. I avoid any profile that has their venmo / cash app / paypal info. I'd manage the expectations like you said, but this is precisely why I still browse the hobbying sites.I can't even believe how they are all scammers and pros now. Like 90% on SD4 ME. I remember 10-15 years ago when it was literally 90% some local girl needing a little help, would fuck raw, swallow, never ask for $$ and would take $80 after 3 pops and thank you. Then text you 2 days later and say she misses you.

These girls now are all ****** and scammers. They think talking to you on the phone is going to get them a monthly allowance. SMH.

They should have to answer questions when they set up profiles as to what type of sex they will have. The ones that say "no meetups" should be automatically flagged!

SFVsag
06-12-20, 14:01
I can't even believe how they are all scammers and pros now. Like 90% on SD4 ME. I remember 10-15 years ago when it was literally 90% some local girl needing a little help, would fuck raw, swallow, never ask for $$ and would take $80 after 3 pops and thank you. Then text you 2 days later and say she misses you.

These girls now are all ****** and scammers. They think talking to you on the phone is going to get them a monthly allowance. SMH.

They should have to answer questions when they set up profiles as to what type of sex they will have. The ones that say "no meetups" should be automatically flagged!Goes to show you how many suckers are crawling around as SD's. The scammers go to where the suckers are. It's a target-rich environment.

JackMiles
06-12-20, 15:05
I can't even believe how they are all scammers and pros now. Like 90% on SD4 ME. I remember 10-15 years ago when it was literally 90% some local girl needing a little help, would fuck raw, swallow, never ask for $$ and would take $80 after 3 pops and thank you. Then text you 2 days later and say she misses you.

These girls now are all ****** and scammers. They think talking to you on the phone is going to get them a monthly allowance. SMH.

They should have to answer questions when they set up profiles as to what type of sex they will have. The ones that say "no meetups" should be automatically flagged!Yep, I've heard that "taking care of parents / grandparents" bs before. I'd say about 70% of respondents have that same excuse in one form or another. They want to get paid to talk, or just to send you pics. They have no intentions to meet whatsoever.

Also, a lot of the fake profiles appear to be templated. They all go to either UCLA or USC. LOL. Some of the scammers even go to the extent of buying a membership. That was usually the metric for me when deciding if they were real, but nowadays that can't even be trusted.

HollywoodGuy
06-13-20, 01:29
Lets use the 80/20 rule. So if you message 50 girls that means 10 are real (and I believe it is double that). . As in they will fuck for money. Out of those 10 . Maybe 5 are experienced players to some degree. Three are new but not that new and the last 2 are most likely NP's if you are searching correctly. You could easily message that many a month. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. But fuck SD4 M, that site has been a joke for a long time. Stick to seeking.

TylerDurd
06-14-20, 19:28
Hey guys, I may get some hate here but I'm a young guy, 24, and actually starting to get decent success on these SD sites. I'll tell you from my short experience so far (literally 2 weeks), that it's a double edged sword being young. On the one hand, you have a surprising amount of girls that seem to prefer younger guys (which doesn't make sense cause they're on a SD site ffs), but also I do get a lot of passes because there are many girls specifically looking for a older guy (daddy issues / fantasies). So there's pros and cons to being young and old. I think being young can open up more doors with some of the newer, more casual girls (non pros).

But anyway, my question is what ya'lls advice / experience is with knocking girls up. I really just hate wrapping it up and tbh am not as concerned about STD's as I probably should be. My current strategy is to just go raw but pull out. I did this with a civ GF for a long time and had no issues (my pull out game is pretty strong). I'm totally fine with pulling out every time, I just can't wrap it up. I'm curious what ya'll think of this strategy and how safe it is. For the record, I'm not ready to get a vasectomy because I do plan to have kids at some point, just not now and not with some random girl on SA LOL. And has anyone had to deal with child support / abortion stories?

Also, side note, what does FC mean? I see it here a lot.

Zman429
06-15-20, 03:05
My current strategy is to just go raw but pull outThat's how I had my first one. My other 3 were on first attempt which really sucks. P.S. I tried all the fapping, using hottubs, tight underwear etc at same time to avoid this. Not sure of any good strategies otherwise etc for using fake phone numbers, emails and never ever let them come over.

TylerDurd
06-15-20, 13:53
That's how I had my first one. My other 3 were on first attempt which really sucks. P.S. I tried all the fapping, using hottubs, tight underwear etc at same time to avoid this. Not sure of any good strategies otherwise etc for using fake phone numbers, emails and never ever let them come over.Well looks like I already broke all those rules. I'm thinking about just using a condom now until I find a girl I trust on BC. Hope I'm not prying too much but, are you paying support for 4 kids? That sounds like a nightmare. And how many years were you using the pull out start before it failed?

DickensCider
06-15-20, 17:20
Well looks like I already broke all those rules. I'm thinking about just using a condom now until I find a girl I trust on BC. Hope I'm not prying too much but, are you paying support for 4 kids? That sounds like a nightmare. And how many years were you using the pull out start before it failed?Yes, find a girl you trust but take her to get an IUD. Then you can go raw to your heart's content. No fear of her forgetting to take a pill.

HuksAlot
06-15-20, 18:05
My current strategy is to just go raw but pull out.
Also, side note, what does FC mean? I see it here a lot.That's the Catholic strategy. Look at how fast they breed.

FC=Fuck Chamber.

Zman429
06-15-20, 19:53
Well looks like I already broke all those rules. I'm thinking about just using a condom now until I find a girl I trust on BC. Hope I'm not prying too much but, are you paying support for 4 kids? That sounds like a nightmare. And how many years were you using the pull out start before it failed?So I'm 60 and 3 were my kids paying child support may be easy way out LOL and just kidding. And years was months 2 maybe 3. I got curious and started asking the girls that let me go bare and a most of them had there tubes tied (in Thailand) or were on birth control. FYI for me condoms were ok until 6 years or so ago and started using them less and less. Anyhow sounds like you got a better handle on the girls than I did at your age enjoy.

ShowMeHow23
06-15-20, 20:35
Well, I saw b burke last week. $1. 5 k damage per 90. Wish I didn't do it, got to go bb with TTS results, but she was buried in her phone and after the first pop was nearly dressed and ready to leave saying most guys she sees only cum once and she was ready to bail out. I had to tell her I'm not 90 yrs old and was disappointed.

Yep. YMMV.

Domino727
06-15-20, 21:20
Well, I saw b burke last week. $1. 5 k damage per 90. Wish I didn't do it, got to go bb with TTS results, but she was buried in her phone and after the first pop was nearly dressed and ready to leave saying most guys she sees only cum once and she was ready to bail out. I had to tell her I'm not 90 yrs old and was disappointed.

Yep. YMMV.Fuck man, what are you thinking?

JackMiles
06-16-20, 00:02
Well, I saw b burke last week. $1. 5 k damage per 90. Wish I didn't do it, got to go bb with TTS results, but she was buried in her phone and after the first pop was nearly dressed and ready to leave saying most guys she sees only cum once and she was ready to bail out. I had to tell her I'm not 90 yrs old and was disappointed.

Yep. YMMV.Came across her profile as well. I knew her requirements would be far beyond what I would be willing to compensate her for. But Christ almighty!

Dash
06-16-20, 00:57
I'm older than you and I have rarely met a female on birth control, they generally don't seem to like going to the trouble.

Having pulled out hundreds of times with various girls, I never got one pregnant.

I'm not infertile because one girl told me to not pull out and she miscalculated so I paid for an abortion, that was 35 years ago.

I had a Chinese girlfriend who "compensated me" with CIM every time, pretty good.

BigPersian
06-16-20, 19:07
Fuck man, what are you thinking?Pornstars and strippers have the highest GPS you can imagine. There's no point in seeing any of them. Too jaded to really be giving doing anything, especially in the sugar world.

Also talked to Bianca Burke on SA and. Long story short, don't waste your time. Go after everyone else and figure out whose a scam and whose not, the good girls are out there.

DogTown997
06-16-20, 19:40
Well, I saw b burke last week. $1. 5 k damage per 90. Wish I didn't do it, got to go bb with TTS results, but she was buried in her phone and after the first pop was nearly dressed and ready to leave saying most guys she sees only cum once and she was ready to bail out. I had to tell her I'm not 90 yrs old and was disappointed.

Yep. YMMV.Can we get a link of profile name.

BigBear818
06-19-20, 16:17
Hey guys, I may get some hate here but I'm a young guy, 24, and actually starting to get decent success on these SD sites. I'll tell you from my short experience so far (literally 2 weeks), that it's a double edged sword being young. On the one hand, you have a surprising amount of girls that seem to prefer younger guys (which doesn't make sense cause they're on a SD site ffs), but also I do get a lot of passes because there are many girls specifically looking for a older guy (daddy issues / fantasies). So there's pros and cons to being young and old. I think being young can open up more doors with some of the newer, more casual girls (non pros).

But anyway, my question is what ya'lls advice / experience is with knocking girls up. I really just hate wrapping it up and tbh am not as concerned about STD's as I probably should be. My current strategy is to just go raw but pull out. I did this with a civ GF for a long time and had no issues (my pull out game is pretty strong). I'm totally fine with pulling out every time, I just can't wrap it up. I'm curious what ya'll think of this strategy and how safe it is. For the record, I'm not ready to get a vasectomy because I do plan to have kids at some point, just not now and not with some random girl on SA LOL. And has anyone had to deal with child support / abortion stories?

Also, side note, what does FC mean? I see it here a lot.I'm about to go out on a date with a sugar baby from SA and plan to go in raw with a cream pie finish. If you want to avoid paying child support, my advice is to not to let her know your real name, where you live and use a burner phone. Only exception to this rule is if you really like the SA sugar baby and want to marry her after there's a mutual trust over the years. But if you own any real estate properties and showing off your savings or wealth, she will grab you by the nuts and take you to the economic cleaners through child support and will have to deal with that for the next 18 years. Leins on your house when you're trying to sell, wage garnishments, savings accounts being sucked dry by a bank levy from the division of child support. Be careful because that's how a lot of these sugar babies make their living. Think with your big head before taking her to your private fuck chamber.

FarFarAway
06-19-20, 16:21
I'm about to go out on a date with a sugar baby from SA and plan to go in raw with a cream pie finish. If you want to avoid paying child support, my advice is to not to let her know your real name, where you live and use a burner phone. Only exception to this rule is if you really like the SA sugar baby and want to marry her after there's a mutual trust over the years. But if you own any real estate properties and showing off your savings or wealth, she will grab you by the nuts and take you to the economic cleaners through child support and will have to deal with that for the next 18 years. Leins on your house when you're trying to sell, wage garnishments, savings accounts being sucked dry by a bank levy from the division of child support. Be careful because that's how a lot of these sugar babies make their living. Think with your big head before taking her to your private fuck chamber.I am not an aficionado of bare, I am too concerned about my health. Your "that's how a lot of these sugar babies make their living" reflects nothing about the reality that I have experienced in the past 3+ years in the bowl, however.

HollywoodGuy
06-19-20, 19:05
I'm about to go out on a date with a sugar baby from SA and plan to go in raw with a cream pie finish. If you want to avoid paying child support, my advice is to not to let her know your real name, where you live and use a burner phone. Only exception to this rule is if you really like the SA sugar baby and want to marry her after there's a mutual trust over the years. But if you own any real estate properties and showing off your savings or wealth, she will grab you by the nuts and take you to the economic cleaners through child support and will have to deal with that for the next 18 years. Leins on your house when you're trying to sell, wage garnishments, savings accounts being sucked dry by a bank levy from the division of child support. Be careful because that's how a lot of these sugar babies make their living. Think with your big head before taking her to your private fuck chamber.Snipped 15 years ago after a minor scare. Good move for me. Everyone's situation is unique though.

DavidTheSancho
06-20-20, 14:45
Anyone message this girl? LOL. Can't be real can it.

ShowMeHow23
06-20-20, 17:06
Fuck man, what are you thinking?Wasn't thinking logically, that's for sure. Not doing that again.

TylerDurd
06-21-20, 23:38
Let's talk strategy gentlemen. I've seen HG giving some good advice here but I'd like to hear yalls thoughts. So basically, I currently make a ppm offer, and try to get her number ASAP. My issue is this. My flake rate is pretty high with girls who initially are down to meet and everything but ghost a bit after. The variables I think are important are 1) getting her to meet ASAP. I think once they meet you irl they are much less likely to flake in the future. I think a big reason for this is that if they're new to the site (what I usually go for), they don't know what the expect money wise. My offer is probably lower than they can reasonably expect to get from some other desperate guys. There's also a general women issue where they'll change their mind about wanting to be a SB on a whim. So if you can someone get them out ASAP I bet that would work great.

So my question is what is yall's policies / experiences on M&G's? I think I'd have a lot of success if I were to offer girls for a quick meet and greet just to chat for a bit. The thing is I don't want to pay unless I'm for sure getting sugar. Have yall had success just meeting up with girls for a casual chat unpayed? I'm pretty confident in my game to work it into going back to my place but I'd hate to waste my $ on girls just looking for free cash (seems like a pandemic on this site. Like this girl today literally said to me "I'm not looking for a relationship or to meet, just looking to get spoiled LMAO).

But also I'm wondering how you deal with girls that say they want to meet up "in a week or so". There's an unfortunately high flake rate for me for these and I'm wondering if its worth the effort or if I should just move on? How long in general should I expect to wait before a meet up? And also, do yall just open conversation with your money offer out of the gate or wait a little bit later for that?

HollywoodGuy
06-21-20, 23:55
Anyone message this girl? LOL. Can't be real can it.Doesn't look real but she made her point. Probably a good time. Whats the link to her profile?

Rdyn Nvu
06-22-20, 00:22
Was she hot at least? Damn I would feel cheated.


Well, I saw b burke last week. $1. 5 k damage per 90. Wish I didn't do it, got to go bb with TTS results, but she was buried in her phone and after the first pop was nearly dressed and ready to leave saying most guys she sees only cum once and she was ready to bail out. I had to tell her I'm not 90 yrs old and was disappointed.

Yep. YMMV.

Poltergeist
06-22-20, 12:47
Let's talk strategy gentlemen. I've seen HG giving some good advice here but I'd like to hear yalls thoughts. So basically, I currently make a ppm offer, and try to get her number ASAP. My issue is this. My flake rate is pretty high with girls who initially are down to meet and everything but ghost a bit after. The variables I think are important are 1) getting her to meet ASAP. I think once they meet you irl they are much less likely to flake in the future. I think a big reason for this is that if they're new to the site (what I usually go for), they don't know what the expect money wise. My offer is probably lower than they can reasonably expect to get from some other desperate guys. There's also a general women issue where they'll change their mind about wanting to be a SB on a whim. So if you can someone get them out ASAP I bet that would work great.

So my question is what is yall's policies / experiences on M&G's? I think I'd have a lot of success if I were to offer girls for a quick meet and greet just to chat for a bit. The thing is I don't want to pay unless I'm for sure getting sugar. Have yall had success just meeting up with girls for a casual chat unpayed? I'm pretty confident in my game to work it into going back to my place but I'd hate to waste my $ on girls just looking for free cash (seems like a pandemic on this site. Like this girl today literally said to me "I'm not looking for a relationship or to meet, just looking to get spoiled LMAO).

But also I'm wondering how you deal with girls that say they want to meet up "in a week or so". There's an unfortunately high flake rate for me for these and I'm wondering if its worth the effort or if I should just move on? How long in general should I expect to wait before a meet up? And also, do yall just open conversation with your money offer out of the gate or wait a little bit later for that?Never pay for a M&G. However, if you want to make a HOT girl feel good about screwing you for $ but not like a hooker, you should court her like you would a regular date. My strategy is to have a small token gift at the end of the M&G. I like to use gift cards, either Victoria's Secret or Sephora, which let you say something nice about them. You giving this as a 'gift' puts the relationship on a very different footing than your agreeing in advance to pay them to meet for coffee. I only give this is all systems are go, and we're planning the next meet at the FC. I have heard it said if you don't have a sugar agreement at the end of the M&G, you are unlikely to get it. Some very young / inexperienced girls might be more of a project, if you like that type.

LAX310
06-22-20, 13:39
Are ladies able to see your message if you don't pay for the premium version?

I'm just browsing debating if I want to sign up, but it appears I'm either only messaging bots or the messages aren't actually going out.

Rouleur
06-22-20, 16:23
Are ladies able to see your message if you don't pay for the premium version?

I'm just browsing debating if I want to sign up, but it appears I'm either only messaging bots or the messages aren't actually going out.Premium is for messaging and ultimately sharing other contact information. Don't be lured into a Premium membership just because you're receiving.

Pms from hot women. Most are not real and simply the worm on the hook.

ShowMeHow23
06-22-20, 17:38
Was she hot at least? Damn I would feel cheated.She didn't come all dolled up. I would say she's pretty, but not hot like. Angela White or Sophie Dee hot.

FlakeUmms
06-22-20, 18:02
But also I'm wondering how you deal with girls that say they want to meet up "in a week or so". There's an unfortunately high flake rate for me for these and I'm wondering if its worth the effort or if I should just move on? How long in general should I expect to wait before a meet up? And also, do yall just open conversation with your money offer out of the gate or wait a little bit later for that?I don't have any experience with sugaring but I had a girl last year from Club Fantasy who hit with this same line. We seemed to hit it off and discussed meeting up. She gave me her cell number and I texted her when I got home saying that I was serious about wanting to meet up. She agreed that she was too but when I tried to nail something down, I got "Give me a week. " I was cool with that but after a few days figured I'd never hear from her. She wound up texting me exactly a week later saying she needed a few more days. After that I think I never heard from her again. I didn't bring up PPM because I wasn't totally sure about what was going on but I think that was a rookie blunder. In any case, I think give me a week means that she's waffling and probably going to bail. Put her on the back burner and get to work on someone else.

TylerDurd
06-22-20, 19:25
Never pay for a M&G. However, if you want to make a HOT girl feel good about screwing you for $ but not like a hooker, you should court her like you would a regular date. My strategy is to have a small token gift at the end of the M&G. I like to use gift cards, either Victoria's Secret or Sephora, which let you say something nice about them. You giving this as a 'gift' puts the relationship on a very different footing than your agreeing in advance to pay them to meet for coffee. I only give this is all systems are go, and we're planning the next meet at the FC. I have heard it said if you don't have a sugar agreement at the end of the M&G, you are unlikely to get it. Some very young / inexperienced girls might be more of a project, if you like that type.How do you get a freebee M&G then? Seems like many girls won't be down for that. Unless of course you offer a normal date like you said (dinner), in which case you will be paying. Not against that but I'd hate to be used for free food. Do you set up the date as "ill give you a gift afterwards" or do you just go in with no money involved and gift after you've discussed $ plans? This all begs the question on if I should open with my $ offer out of the gate. Itll save time for those not interested but I'm afraid ill lose some high caliber girls if I put it all on the table up front.

OhHellYeah
06-22-20, 23:03
Are ladies able to see your message if you don't pay for the premium version?

I'm just browsing debating if I want to sign up, but it appears I'm either only messaging bots or the messages aren't actually going out.SA is a ripoff. I'd say like 99% fake or scammers or flakes. The rest are high end escorts.

AsenseOfWonder
06-23-20, 04:24
SA is a ripoff. I'd say like 99% fake or scammers or flakes. The rest are high end escorts.What kind of scams do they run? I've been talking to one who claims to be new but was very willing to meet up for a free m&g. Did reverse photo search and found a macth on an Instagram worldofasians. Seems off but wondering what I can / should do to protect myself.

JackMiles
06-23-20, 11:28
What kind of scams do they run? I've been talking to one who claims to be new but was very willing to meet up for a free m&g. Did reverse photo search and found a macth on an Instagram worldofasians. Seems off but wondering what I can / should do to protect myself.One thing that's been common nowadays is the "I'm not actually in LA, I'm in xxxxx taking care of grandparents. I can send pics or vids!" And, many have been using the coronavirus as a reason not to meet (eg I'll definitely meet up when its all over, but until now, send me money for pics). Although this is definitely a legit reason, you really shouldn't be on that site if that is indeed the case.

EvilTmp
06-23-20, 12:29
How do you get a freebee M&G then? Seems like many girls won't be down for that. Unless of course you offer a normal date like you said (dinner), in which case you will be paying. Not against that but I'd hate to be used for free food. Do you set up the date as "ill give you a gift afterwards" or do you just go in with no money involved and gift after you've discussed $ plans? This all begs the question on if I should open with my $ offer out of the gate. Itll save time for those not interested but I'm afraid ill lose some high caliber girls if I put it all on the table up front.If you let the girls set the rules I kindly suggest you do not dive into the sugar world. You'll be rinsed over and over with little to show for it. Read up on here, know what the best practices are, and stick to well-known rules (like never pay for M&G). Good luck.

HobbyVeteran
06-23-20, 13:12
I've been dabbling into the SD world and so far not impressed. I've spoken to 3 women (no they weren't bots and their English appeared to be believable), but my GOD they want a fuck ton of cash. Even for a M&G which I rapidly declined to even consider. They all said they need multiple meetings at 5+ per meeting before they are comfortable. What the fuck ever!

Anyways, this might not be for me. Too much of a chess game it feels like to me.

Thankfully I'm only out the cost of a membership.

PhillUponThese
06-23-20, 13:38
I did the 3 month deal pre covid on SA and had good / moderate success. Met with 10 face-to face and was able to smash five. Three out of the five only cost me a dinner date and some wine and one only wanted gas money since she would drive 45 minutes to the agreed meet spot. In my opinion guys are spending way too much time with the time wasters and GPS chicks! I had to send upwards of over 100 messages a day and the goal was to at least get the digits from one lucky lady and talk business off-line. There are some diamonds out there believe me. And try to stay away from the Pro's if you can. Never buy gifts and never pay for no damn M&G and lastly never come across as desperate! Write a nice message and save it and just cut and paste till you are able to get some actual 2-way communication going


I've been dabbling into the SD world and so far not impressed. I've spoken to 3 women (no they weren't bots and their English appeared to be believable), but my GOD they want a fuck ton of cash. Even for a M&G which I rapidly declined to even consider. They all said they need multiple meetings at 5+ per meeting before they are comfortable. What the fuck ever!

Anyways, this might not be for me. Too much of a chess game it feels like to me.

Thankfully I'm only out the cost of a membership.

PhillUponThese
06-23-20, 13:45
Bro I agree with Evil-This may not be your cup of tea! Guys like you get raked over the coals. You may be better off contacting an high end escort or something. Try EROS.com.

Phil-.


If you let the girls set the rules I kindly suggest you do not dive into the sugar world. You'll be rinsed over and over with little to show for it. Read up on here, know what the best practices are, and stick to well-known rules (like never pay for M&G). Good luck.

HobbyVeteran
06-23-20, 13:54
Bro I agree with Evil-This may not be your cup of tea! Guys like you get raked over the coals. You may be better off contacting an high end escort or something. Try EROS.com.

Phil-.Well I didn't get raked over the coals because I shut those girls down. . 5 for a hookup is insane.

PhillUponThese
06-23-20, 16:01
Well you are in the right place--feel free to send me a PM if you have any further queries. I've been at this for a long time.

Always glad to help a fellow monger.

PHil-.


Well I didn't get raked over the coals because I shut those girls down. . 5 for a hookup is insane.

TylerDurd
06-23-20, 16:10
Bro I agree with Evil-This may not be your cup of tea! Guys like you get raked over the coals. You may be better off contacting an high end escort or something. Try EROS.com.

Phil-.I think I've already sniffed out the BS and know some general rules. I will never pay pre meetup. I was just asking guys experiences with less "straightforward" arrangements. I make good money but obviously don't just want to throw away cash for no reason. Personally I'm still leaning on the safe side and just going to hold my money close to the chest. I'm just more attracted to a SB arrangement than high end escorts. I think it takes more work for sure but as you said, if you keep at it youll find some diamonds in the rough that make it worthwhile. And in general I'm more into the "casual" girls than pros. For example I already have a 18 year old that literally told me "I don't have to pay" after I offered her money. Pretty wild. I don't think you'll find that with escorts.

EvilTmp
06-23-20, 16:42
What kind of scams do they run? I've been talking to one who claims to be new but was very willing to meet up for a free m&g. Did reverse photo search and found a macth on an Instagram worldofasians. Seems off but wondering what I can / should do to protect myself.The most common scam is probably a girl (dude thousands of miles away) who is super quick to M&G with you. She (the dude) will agree to meet anywhere like tonight. An hour before the fateful meet you'll get a request for babysitting / gas / makeup / whatthefuk money. That you pay the amount or not makes little difference on if you'll meet the girl (dude) at the agreed time and place. Hint: there's no girl.

SFVsag
06-23-20, 23:31
There seems to be more sites than I'm willing to spend money on. So, I'd like to get your opinions on which ones offer the best value.

-Most non-pros.

-Most responsive users.

-Least games played.

-Value for money.

I don't want to sink money in a site that offers nothing or too little in return. I appreciate your opinions in advance.

JackMiles
06-24-20, 13:00
There seems to be more sites than I'm willing to spend money on. So, I'd like to get your opinions on which ones offer the best value.

-Most non-pros.

-Most responsive users.

-Least games played.

-Value for money.

I don't want to sink money in a site that offers nothing or too little in return. I appreciate your opinions in advance.Interested in feedback as well. Personally, I've only been on SA and so far its been the true definition of hit and miss.

HollywoodGuy
06-25-20, 19:27
There seems to be more sites than I'm willing to spend money on. So, I'd like to get your opinions on which ones offer the best value.

-Most non-pros.

-Most responsive users.

-Least games played.

-Value for money.

I don't want to sink money in a site that offers nothing or too little in return. I appreciate your opinions in advance.SA only player here.

AsenseOfWonder
06-26-20, 03:15
Well I didn't get raked over the coals because I shut those girls down. . 5 for a hookup is insane.Girls on there were asking for 4-7 k / mo or 1-2 k PPM. Like GTFO what chumps are willing to do that?

Madaboutmax
06-26-20, 08:43
There are definitely legitimate girls on SA, but fewer since COVID. The popularity of the site has attracted a lot more fakes, flakes, scammers, toe dippers, platonic only, online only girls. It takes work, but there are still gems to be found.


SA is a ripoff. I'd say like 99% fake or scammers or flakes. The rest are high end escorts.

HobbyVeteran
06-26-20, 18:30
There are definitely legitimate girls on SA, but fewer since COVID. The popularity of the site has attracted a lot more fakes, flakes, scammers, toe dippers, platonic only, online only girls. It takes work, but there are still gems to be found.I've been trying SB and no not do great.

HollywoodGuy
06-26-20, 19:33
https://www.seeking.com/member/ea517a51-ea79-4494-b6c8-91ccf64e9850

I offered a $. She said $$.5. So I passed.

PussyDestroyr
06-26-20, 19:57
I've been trying SB and no not do great.I think SA is better than SB. I have a Sugar B that I hit on the regular from SA, she isn't posted anymore. Big tits, beautiful face and MILF personality.

JackMiles
06-26-20, 21:08
Girls on there were asking for 4-7 k / mo or 1-2 k PPM. Like GTFO what chumps are willing to do that?There are a few chumps who are willing to do that, which screws it up for the rest of us. Also, I've met a few sugar babies who agree on the aforementioned prices and show up with a check. That check, of course, bounces. I'm not sure if these stories are actually true, but you have to be a real lowlife to be pulling that stunt.

HollywoodGuy
06-27-20, 04:56
https://www.seeking.com/member/01541a89-1f08-4989-ac14-e6d3648c180d

Between $.5 and $$. A real shame I had to pass. She is pretty.

EvilTmp
06-27-20, 09:48
There are a few chumps who are willing to do that, which screws it up for the rest of us. Also, I've met a few sugar babies who agree on the aforementioned prices and show up with a check. That check, of course, bounces. I'm not sure if these stories are actually true, but you have to be a real lowlife to be pulling that stunt.Never, ever believe what a girl tells you she's gotten in the past. Unless you can see an actual proof, it's all in her head. The lying going on by girls on SA is non-stop. For most of these girls every single word out of their mouths are lies. I've been told some amazing tales in my time. Like the girl who had a job and a SD who paid her 3 K a month for most of the last year. She shows up to the meet in beater car worth maybe 1 k. As if she wouldn't get decent wheels if she had any money. Or the one who told me she would meet her married SD every other weekend and he fell in love with her. As if a married guy can leave his wife behind every 2 weeks just like that.

These young girls all like to pretend to a life they only wish was true.

TylerDurd
06-27-20, 12:01
Never, ever believe what a girl tells you she's gotten in the past. Unless you can see an actual proof, it's all in her head. The lying going on by girls on SA is non-stop. For most of these girls every single word out of their mouths are lies. I've been told some amazing tales in my time. Like the girl who had a job and a SD who paid her 3 K a month for most of the last year. She shows up to the meet in beater car worth maybe 1 k. As if she wouldn't get decent wheels if she had any money. Or the one who told me she would meet her married SD every other weekend and he fell in love with her. As if a married guy can leave his wife behind every 2 weeks just like that.

These young girls all like to pretend to a life they only wish was true.I've always wanted to ask these girls going for "online only" relationships (a staggering amount), are ANY guys actually paying you for that, and how much? I'd like to know the real answer. Because if a bunch of guys are actually doing that I've lost my faith in humanity. I'm hoping these girls make an account with this plan and quickly delete it when they realize men actually expect something of real value in return for money.

HollywoodGuy
06-28-20, 13:39
https://www.seeking.com/member/c547cbfb-16f9-4836-b7d5-31ca62d4f1c6

$$$$ per date. Out of my league. Pretty good body though.

HollywoodGuy
06-28-20, 21:47
There is an insane amount of fake profiles, girls that are real but don't live in L. A. , online only girls, GPS, etc. Way more than I have seen before. Vegas is not like this. Still some real girls though. Spent 2 days searching so far.

Large Ess
06-28-20, 21:50
https://www.seeking.com/member/c547cbfb-16f9-4836-b7d5-31ca62d4f1c6

$$$$ per date. Out of my league. Pretty good body though.Very nice body but $$ No way.

OcasianBoy
06-28-20, 23:57
Porn Star on SA. Anyone seen her before?

https://www.seeking.com/member/7e47c69d-11cd-4101-afc2-84c6901ca516

HollywoodGuy
06-29-20, 03:16
https://www.seeking.com/member/d13378ed-99f5-48b1-98f0-d485875907c3

Hot GILF alert. Not my type but def exceptional for her age.

HollywoodGuy
06-29-20, 03:19
https://www.seeking.com/member/db34759c-0e33-49e1-9406-7775c7753faf

This one agreed to my $ offer. But she is too far away from me and she has no car. Lives in costa mesa.

HollywoodGuy
06-29-20, 03:58
https://www.seeking.com/member/21a8c79c-0467-4e3d-a049-80924ceb0103

She says $$$ to hookup.

HollywoodGuy
06-29-20, 04:46
https://www.seeking.com/member/92a9c5ed-2860-4fc9-87ea-6e874be4ef87

Fresh spinner alert. Not sure what she is asking. But turned me down.

HollywoodGuy
06-29-20, 17:07
https://www.seeking.com/member/b36955e9-7630-4b03-b332-82cac36f9a90

Wants over $$$ but says she is GFE. Very pretty asian.

R Ryder
06-29-20, 22:23
https://www.seeking.com/member/b36955e9-7630-4b03-b332-82cac36f9a90

Wants over $$$ but says she is GFE. Very pretty asian.Thanks for bringing these ladies to our attention. It makes me want to get back into the SB world!

Domino727
06-30-20, 00:01
The young ones are sooooo greedy.

Yesterday I had one 18 year old bunny quote me $200 for an hour dinner and nothing else. She told me anything else was extra, but that sex was completely out of the question.

So, she was going to probably upcharge for holding hands, kissing, hugging, even pure conversation, no doubt.

I told her, "I'ma going to' pass. ".

HollywoodGuy
06-30-20, 00:13
Thanks for bringing these ladies to our attention. It makes me want to get back into the SB world!Well these are the GPS girls I turned down. Just a few out of many. But got a few real girls I plan on seeing before I leave back to vegas.

R Ryder
06-30-20, 02:04
Well these are the GPS girls I turned down. Just a few out of many. But got a few real girls I plan on seeing before I leave back to Vegas.GPS? If you got any shorties, Latina, or white you can throw my way, I would appreciate the suggestions.

HuksAlot
06-30-20, 03:05
Strong on you. Guy don't ever pay for meet and greet or dinner dates.


The young ones are sooooo greedy.

Yesterday I had one 18 year old bunny quote me $200 for an hour dinner and nothing else. She told me anything else was extra, but that sex was completely out of the question.

So, she was going to probably upcharge for holding hands, kissing, hugging, even pure conversation, no doubt.

I told her, "I'ma going to' pass. ".

SocalGuy323
06-30-20, 21:02
Porn Star on SA. Anyone seen her before?

https://www.seeking.com/member/7e47c69d-11cd-4101-afc2-84c6901ca516She's on WYP as well. I think she told me 1. 5 large / hr.

HollywoodGuy
06-30-20, 22:51
Having a tough time so far in L. A. Vegas is def easier. Although a lot more hot girls here. Just harder to get. At $$ I think I would be doing OK. Beeen targeting a lot of NP's and they are def skittish overall. But have a couple new ones waiting for me when I go back in a couple weeks.

HollywoodGuy
07-03-20, 03:37
Tonite I officially lost my ATF of the last 2 years. She called to break up and to tell me she wasn't going to contact me for any reason ever again. We fucked 15 times the week before she left for good. She got engaged to a maybe rich SD. Thats what she wanted and she found it. I had a great 2 years. Met her a week after she turned 18. And it was love at first site.The first year was amazing. One of the best of my life. I actually feel kinda sad. But I know deep deep down there will be another one at some point.

Can't wait to get back to vegas. Just so much easier to get laid on the cheap. L. A. is out of control. Not easy to get laid for multiple reasons. I met s stunner today that was looking to have revenge sex as her 2.5k a month SD dropped her like a hot potato. But she had second thoughts about my usual offer. You really have to get them straight out of the gate to get the best overall bang for your buck. Vegas girls are just so chill, I have a few pursuing me.

EvilTmp
07-03-20, 11:02
Tonite I officially lost my ATF of the last 2 years. She called to break up and to tell me she wasn't going to contact me for any reason ever again. We fucked 15 times the week before she left for good. She got engaged to a maybe rich SD. Thats what she wanted and she found it. I had a great 2 years. Met her a week after she turned 18. And it was love at first site.The first year was amazing. One of the best of my life. I actually feel kinda sad. But I know deep deep down there will be another one at some point.

You don't own them, it's just your turn..... And so it goes.

Shyzai
07-03-20, 13:54
https://www.seeking.com/member/4a3089ee-d5fa-47fc-a6b7-544b526291e0

For quite a while, this lady and I had been exchanging messages but we couldn't nail down a date due to our schedules. She claimed she was open to anything and she looked like my kind of girl. She wanted 300 but I convinced her to accept 200, and she also sent me additional pictures. They weren't particularly tantalizing, but she looked very beautiful in them. I normally give the ladies the wrong address-just a couple of houses away from mine (my address is 6210, so I tell them 6214), so I could walk over there and observe them before I approach them. I don't know why I even bother to do that because I have never had the balls to walk away whenever I realized that they had misrepresented themselves. Finally, we locked down a date for last week. On this fateful day, I walked over to 6004 and I noticed this sumo wrestler intensely staring at me. It couldn't be her! But alas, it was. Just much, much, much bigger. She said hi and I replied in kind, albeit awkwardly. I should have walked away but I couldn't. I led her to my house, chit-chatted, and went down to business. She was open to everything, but I could not go through with it. After about 2 minutes of sex, I just made up some stupid excuse about an appointment, gave her 200 and she left.

HollywoodGuy
07-03-20, 14:07
You don't own them, it's just your turn..... And so it goes.Two years is a very long time to have one of these girls. And I have never tried to own them, that's for sure. I only had that attitude with my first SB when I didn't know any better. Actually its better when you are paying them a set allowance, because as soon as they say they are your GF and the allowance stops they figure they can do whatever they want. When payment is made services are always rendered.

TylerDurd
07-03-20, 21:35
Reminder to always verify age. Just got off a 25 min phone call with a girl. Was down to M&G with her in a couple hours. Lots of weird red flags. She had to "bring her sisters with her" to the M&G. Told her fuck that. Her sisters were in the car with her while she was talking to me and asking me question, even though they didn't know that she was talking to a SD. But then she said her sister walked in on her while she was with a guy? WTF. Seemed like a total dimwit. By the end of it I had to ask again what her age was. Said she was 18. Spidey senses said to tell her I would require an I'd. Finally she "burst my bubble" by telling me she's actually 17, but that she's been with "tons of way older guys" and never said anything, and that she "wouldn't tell". Told her stop doing that and we're done and hung up. Moral of the story is always get an I'd boys, especially if you have ANY doubts. Thank god I browse on here and kept my guard up. BTW, she said her mom was a cop. Either this was some weird sting operation or just a dumb girl that could potentially ruin your life. Either way not worth it. She either deleted her profile or blocked me already. Not sure the forum rules and if I can share her name but if I'll can I'll let yall know.

SidVicious
07-04-20, 13:13
Anybody know anything about these 2?

https://www.seeking.com/member/4eebb608-442e-4dca-9d61-9490885719d1

Lotus007
07-04-20, 22:00
Reminder to always verify age. Just got off a 25 min phone call with a girl. Was down to M&G with her in a couple hours. Lots of weird red flags. She had to "bring her sisters with her" to the M&G. Told her fuck that. Her sisters were in the car with her while she was talking to me and asking me question, even though they didn't know that she was talking to a SD. But then she said her sister walked in on her while she was with a guy? WTF. Seemed like a total dimwit. By the end of it I had to ask again what her age was. Said she was 18. Spidey senses said to tell her I would require an I'd. Finally she "burst my bubble" by telling me she's actually 17, but that she's been with "tons of way older guys" and never said anything, and that she "wouldn't tell". Told her stop doing that and we're done and hung up. Moral of the story is always get an I'd boys, especially if you have ANY doubts. Thank god I browse on here and kept my guard up. BTW, she said her mom was a cop. Either this was some weird sting operation or just a dumb girl that could potentially ruin your life. Either way not worth it. She either deleted her profile or blocked me already. Not sure the forum rules and if I can share her name but if I'll can I'll let yall know.I had similar experience before. Profile said 18. She said she is 18 over text. I asked her again when we met in cafe and she confirmed again verbally.

Decided to go fc. Asked her to go get a room at notel who knew me. She said, she can't as she is one month shy of 18. I told her to go home and call me when she actually turns 18. I'm not down for that.

Since then If Profile says 19, I ask them on app, via text that they are over 18 and they have to show I'd to prove that they are. No exceptions. Lost some sbs because they didn't want to reveal their real I'd which is fine with me. Not taking any risks. Not worth it.

Above girl in a week posted a pic on her insta with a guy much older kissing and that she loves her. It's been 2 years and she is still with her based on her stories.

Did I miss out. Yes.

Will I take chance again next time it happens. Absolately NO.

Lotus007
07-04-20, 22:02
Anybody know anything about these 2?

https://www.seeking.com/member/4eebb608-442e-4dca-9d61-9490885719d1Girl in black hair is a pro.

Reached out to my multiple profiles with her offer.

HollywoodGuy
07-05-20, 05:09
I may have broken my record for chatting with girls on seeking this weekend and still don't have an actual date set in L. A. Although I do in vegas.

HollywoodGuy
07-05-20, 13:11
I used to be an NP chaser, then I got tired of the flakiness and just went more for the UTR's. Now I am back to the NP's. This is a full time job. At the moment I do not have one regular in L. A.

SidVicious
07-05-20, 16:00
Girl in black hair is a pro.

Reached out to my multiple profiles with her offer.Thanks for the intel.

Shyzai
07-05-20, 18:04
https://www.seeking.com/member/375fbea7-2e5e-49d9-ad21-ba8b3d8bbc9e

I have a date planned for Saturday with the lady above. She wouldn't budge for anything less than 300, so I agreed to that. I want to know if anyone has had any interactions with her before I potentially make a mistake. If not, I'll take one for the team.

HollywoodGuy
07-06-20, 00:54
https://www.seeking.com/member/375fbea7-2e5e-49d9-ad21-ba8b3d8bbc9e

I have a date planned for Saturday with the lady above. She wouldn't budge for anything less than 300, so I agreed to that. I want to know if anyone has had any interactions with her before I potentially make a mistake. If not, I'll take one for the team.I mean if she floats your boat then go for it. But at that price you can have your pic of the superfine AA girls. All top shelf. 9's and 10's. She is a 7/8 in my book, but I like spinners and prettier for that price (model looks and body).

But as far as her as a date,, She looks perfectly normal and as long as the expectations were clearly spelled out you should have a great time. For that price she should go all out hoping for a repeat

DavidTheSancho
07-06-20, 18:49
Forgot to post this girl from earlier but here is her profile. Someone get her in the fc LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/cbcc2633-f7cc-4b20-a57e-39acd3e346d6

Seems like a lot of profiles came up the last week or so. Going to reup my subscription and have my try at actually getting an asian girl. I have had zero luck with them since I started back in 2015 ish.

HollywoodGuy
07-06-20, 20:23
Forgot to post this girl from earlier but here is her profile. Someone get her in the fc LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/cbcc2633-f7cc-4b20-a57e-39acd3e346d6

Seems like a lot of profiles cameshe has been offline for about 4 days up the last week or so. Going to reup my subscription and have my try at actually getting an asian girl. I have had zero luck with them since I started back in 2015 ish.Just messaged her but she has been offline for about 4 days.

HollywoodGuy
07-07-20, 01:00
https://www.seeking.com/member/46e3891f-e398-4d00-8908-a7f0bcdb9ecf

Stay away from this girl. Saw her once about 3 months ago. Total mess.

Shyzai
07-07-20, 01:58
https://www.seeking.com/member/46e3891f-e398-4d00-8908-a7f0bcdb9ecf

Stay away from this girl. Saw her once about 3 months ago. Total mess.Haha, I remember this lady. Words are not sufficient, for she has to be truly experienced. As per my last post, the girl who wants 300 says that she has to be at home by 9 pm And she can come early with no time limits. I hope it will be worth it, but her words, "I am not leaving my house for anything less than 300" sort of scared me. These young women have balls. I did try other women, but they wanted a minimum of 400, and they were not all that good-looking. Only a fraction of the SDs on SA are on this site, so I figure a lot of men are paying a premium to sample these women. When I offer 250 to some of these women, they seem genuinely angry and dumbfounded. Do they even make that at their jobs in a day?

Tirachinitas
07-07-20, 05:41
https://www.seeking.com/member/4a3089ee-d5fa-47fc-a6b7-544b526291e0

For quite a while, this lady and I had been exchanging messages but we couldn't nail down a date due to our schedules. She claimed she was open to anything and she looked like my kind of girl. She wanted 300 but I convinced her to accept 200, and she also sent me additional pictures. They weren't particularly tantalizing, but she looked very beautiful in them. I normally give the ladies the wrong address-just a couple of houses away from mine (my address is 6210, so I tell them 6214), so I could walk over there and observe them before I approach them. I don't know why I even bother to do that because I have never had the balls to walk away whenever I realized that they had misrepresented themselves. Finally, we locked down a date for last week. On this fateful day, I walked over to 6004 and I noticed this sumo wrestler intensely staring at me. It couldn't be her! But alas, it was. Just much, much, much bigger. She said hi and I replied in kind, albeit awkwardly. I should have walked away but I couldn't. I led her to my house, chit-chatted, and went down to business. She was open to everything, but I could not go through with it. After about 2 minutes of sex, I just made up some stupid excuse about an appointment, gave her 200 and she left.I saw this one a couple years ago when I replied to one of her CL ads. Gave her 100, banged her 3 times, she looked ok back then and wasn't as big as you described her now.

CreativeOne595
07-07-20, 14:42
Hi gents. Making my public service announcement to stay away from this GILF. She runs two different ads, says she is in her 40's but really in her 50's. Lives in Acton and insists on being uber'd everywhere (at your expense). When I came out of the bathroom at the start she had taken off with my money. Bad news and a total nightmare.

https://www.seeking.com/member/bda5cfe3-f983-4bcb-85ec-c03ad77d8a02

https://www.seeking.com/member/d2431158-97e0-4b20-9e73-72b694f91909

HollywoodGuy
07-08-20, 12:46
Haha, I remember this lady. Words are not sufficient, for she has to be truly experienced. As per my last post, the girl who wants 300 says that she has to be at home by 9 pm And she can come early with no time limits. I hope it will be worth it, but her words, "I am not leaving my house for anything less than 300" sort of scared me. These young women have balls. I did try other women, but they wanted a minimum of 400, and they were not all that good-looking. Only a fraction of the SDs on SA are on this site, so I figure a lot of men are paying a premium to sample these women. When I offer 250 to some of these women, they seem genuinely angry and dumbfounded. Do they even make that at their jobs in a day?I did her once for $ plus the no-tel. Disaster. Druggie.

HollywoodGuy
07-08-20, 19:01
I always make sure to seal the deal prior to a M&G. But there is a thing in sales called a double close. This is my double closing line even after she has said yes to the first date/M&G/FC.

"ok. So just to be clear. If we just go eat or hang out. And that's it. Then I will only cover any out of pocket dating expenses. But if it goes beyond that to an intimate date, then I will add in the allowance. So if you are OK with that, then lets txt. 323-111-2222".

I never give out my cell # till then. And sometimes they text and sometimes they don't... And even after they do text they can still flake.

OcasianBoy
07-08-20, 20:08
https://www.seeking.com/member/7cda9a69-5efe-4dcb-9900-4474f69f9a17

Here's a pro straight out says ppm in first message. She will host too.

JackMiles
07-08-20, 23:10
https://www.seeking.com/member/7cda9a69-5efe-4dcb-9900-4474f69f9a17

Here's a pro straight out says ppm in first message. She will host too.Yep. Just look at the join date. She does this for a living.

HollywoodGuy
07-09-20, 04:19
https://www.seeking.com/member/7cda9a69-5efe-4dcb-9900-4474f69f9a17

Here's a pro straight out says ppm in first message. She will host too.Her profile is already 3 years old. Thats a pro.

OcasianBoy
07-09-20, 17:24
https://www.seeking.com/member/81ea9d85-0685-64ae-a679-237061f45742

Asian girl that's not that good looking looking for 8 per date. Haha.

TWill182
07-09-20, 19:22
Her profile is already 3 years old. Thats a pro.Anyone met her before?

OcasianBoy
07-09-20, 20:25
https://www.seeking.com/member/eda11d8e-a93e-45f9-adc2-2c0fae3a5c37

This one is pretty hot but at 1 k a date, hell no. She wonders why most guys are jerks to her.

JackMiles
07-09-20, 20:31
https://www.seeking.com/member/eda11d8e-a93e-45f9-adc2-2c0fae3a5c37

This one is pretty hot but at 1 k a date, hell no. She wonders why most guys are jerks to her.She's in Germany now? LOL. Seems like a BS profile to me.

TWill182
07-09-20, 20:52
https://www.seeking.com/member/eda11d8e-a93e-45f9-adc2-2c0fae3a5c37

This one is pretty hot but at 1 k a date, hell no. She wonders why most guys are jerks to her.Her log in was in Philippines, be aware as well.

HollywoodGuy
07-10-20, 18:07
https://www.seeking.com/member/a763dba1-f27c-4e6d-92a9-386ab6efe827

Pic seller only.

PriscillaM
07-10-20, 18:44
https://www.seeking.com/member/7cda9a69-5efe-4dcb-9900-4474f69f9a17

Here's a pro straight out says ppm in first message. She will host too.There are pros on seeking arrangements? Like church girls, usc girl, uber to my house on the first date and get her into the fuck chamber girl? I can't believe it, I thought SA was all non pros age 18-22 that just like to have sex with guys for money.

HollywoodGuy
07-10-20, 20:22
https://www.seeking.com/member/8759492f-a05a-4b31-aee3-d36c2e8a9164

Scammer. Too bad because she was a cutie.

OcasianBoy
07-11-20, 11:49
https://www.seeking.com/member/fc54a87f-43d4-408c-9058-cfe797b5bb80

This girl just jump to ppm at 6. I think she might do 4 but still too much. You guys can try if you want.

SingleDiver777
07-11-20, 21:28
Hi gents. Making my public service announcement to stay away from this GILF. She runs two different ads, says she is in her 40's but really in her 50's. Lives in Acton and insists on being uber'd everywhere (at your expense). When I came out of the bathroom at the start she had taken off with my money. Bad news and a total nightmare.

https://www.seeking.com/member/bda5cfe3-f983-4bcb-85ec-c03ad77d8a02

https://www.seeking.com/member/d2431158-97e0-4b20-9e73-72b694f91909Agreed. Had a short arrangement with this one. When I wanted it to end she threatened to contact spouse and my (adult) children. Kept yelling "I know where you live. " Had to lawyer up to extricate myself. As bad as they come. AVOID at all cost.

HollywoodGuy
07-12-20, 00:59
Agreed. Had a short arrangement with this one. When I wanted it to end she threatened to contact spouse and my (adult) children. Kept yelling "I know where you live. " Had to lawyer up to extricate myself. As bad as they come. AVOID at all cost.Good thing I don't date anyone over 22.

Domino727
07-12-20, 02:10
https://www.seeking.com/member/fc54a87f-43d4-408c-9058-cfe797b5bb80

This girl just jump to ppm at 6. I think she might do 4 but still too much. You guys can try if you want.Suddenly they all want $300 to $800 for a PPM. It was never like this. I think they are listening to the lies from other girls. No rational explanation; other than greed emboldened by naivete.

HepCat096
07-12-20, 03:04
https://www.seeking.com/member/fc54a87f-43d4-408c-9058-cfe797b5bb80

This girl just jump to ppm at 6. I think she might do 4 but still too much. You guys can try if you want.She must like you. She quoted me 6 oo & then later "*800" less than a minute later. After a polite decline she said she could do 7. (*rolling eyes*.

ChefSolo
07-12-20, 12:05
I'm new to SA. Every link y'all post seems to show profile not available for me. Is that because I don't have a premium account? I can't seem to find any active girls on my search history besides the same ones that constantly show in search. Am I doing something wrong?

OcasianBoy
07-12-20, 19:04
https://www.seeking.com/member/450cc4f9-8795-4c8e-842a-7dbcf5336acf

This one wants you to cashapp the allowance in advance before meeting. Hell no.

HollywoodGuy
07-12-20, 19:52
https://www.seeking.com/member/450cc4f9-8795-4c8e-842a-7dbcf5336acf

This one wants you to cashapp the allowance in advance before meeting. Hell no.I always reply with "I don't have too many rules but one of them is to never send money to a girl I never met". I promise you will never hear from them again, and also avoid any unneeded drama.

Domino727
07-12-20, 21:16
Today I received four different emails from four different girls in various cities in Venezuela. All of them between 23-25. Hmm, my spidey sense detects a possible CashApp scam in the making if I reply.

SamPaul89
07-13-20, 17:42
Hello Guys,

Wanted to check if anyone has any good SB's with max range of 5 $$.

Lately I haven't been able to find any good petite young girls in these range.

HollywoodGuy
07-13-20, 20:19
Today I received four different emails from four different girls in various cities in Venezuela. All of them between 23-25. Hmm, my spidey sense detects a possible CashApp scam in the making if I reply.If any one outside of your normal driving range hits you up, just delete. I always hide their profiles just so I don't ever have to even look at them again.

Shyzai
07-15-20, 10:18
This almost made me cry. $300,000? Jesus Christ!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MacOp3zypMc

Avocat
07-15-20, 10:22
When looking most recent is a good way to search along with limiting the range to 25 miles, but you can find some gems using the text search box. Try tongue, stud, pierced, Korean, UCLA, musician, laugh, wet, almost anything and you will discover some real girls, not bots.

Domino727
07-15-20, 15:56
This almost made me cry. $300,000? Jesus Christ!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MacOp3zypMcWhat have we all been saying all along? Do not send money thru A) paypal B) Venmo C) CashApp D) Western Union E) The USPS F) NEVER.

JackMiles
07-15-20, 19:40
This almost made me cry. $300,000? Jesus Christ!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MacOp3zypMcFor that kind of money, he could've started his own mail order bride website.

R Ryder
07-15-20, 23:40
When looking most recent is a good way to search along with limiting the range to 25 miles, but you can find some gems using the text search box. Try tongue, stud, pierced, Korean, UCLA, musician, laugh, wet, almost anything and you will discover some real girls, not bots.This is great advice. I also limit my distance to specific cities, such as Brea, Pasadena, Fullerton, and for some reason found many in Fontana (lots of girls at a lower rate). Many more bots and fake ads in Los Angeles. Happy hunting and good luck.

HollywoodGuy
07-17-20, 06:12
This is great advice. I also limit my distance to specific cities, such as Brea, Pasadena, Fullerton, and for some reason found many in Fontana (lots of girls at a lower rate). Many more bots and fake ads in Los Angeles. Happy hunting and good luck.Fullerton is a gold mine. IE goldmine. LBC. And the list goes on.

John HandCock
07-17-20, 09:32
Today I received four different emails from four different girls in various cities in Venezuela. All of them between 23-25. Hmm, my spidey sense detects a possible CashApp scam in the making if I reply.If your not getting that amount daily then count yourself lucky.

FarFarAway
07-18-20, 12:44
I am active on SA for a month, messaged many promising POTs, but having a hard time pulling the trigger. I have a Medicare card, and a so, getting coronavirus is not an option. I would pick one SB to stick w / if I found the right one. I am nervous about the single moms who share custody, seems like the kid could be a vector. I M&G a 23 YO yesterday, claims to be pretty safe, but she has a roommate. So if the roommate is dumb, she's at risk. She was late to the M&G, so it was only about 30 min, she didn't wear a mask, but I did. Today, I am nervous as a cat. Checking symptoms, etc. Perhaps I couldn't do this at this time.

RanManCan
07-19-20, 21:24
PICS - 9/10 . . . I agreed on 50% more than my normal allowance.

In Person - 5/10

Not 22, probably 27+ and I wouldn't hang with her for free.

Uber'd her to coffee shope near me, sent her right back.

If I was less of a gentleman, I'd of left her there. Very disappointing

https://www.seeking.com/member/71fd47ca-bf8b-448f-add9-1f2cb56fef77

HollywoodGuy
07-19-20, 22:22
PICS - 9/10 . . . I agreed on 50% more than my normal allowance.

In Person - 5/10

Not 22, probably 27+ and I wouldn't hang with her for free.

Uber'd her to coffee shope near me, sent her right back.

If I was less of a gentleman, I'd of left her there. Very disappointing

https://www.seeking.com/member/71fd47ca-bf8b-448f-add9-1f2cb56fef77I was recently catfished for the second or third time in 15 years. She does look awesome in her pics. The last one was a few days ago. She had a pixie perfect body in her pics, was a whale when I met her. lol

RanManCan
07-19-20, 22:42
I was recently catfished for the second or third time in 15 years. She does look awesome in her pics. The last one was a few days ago. She had a pixie perfect body in her pics, was a whale when I met her. lolI def get catfished way more than every 5 years. . . What are you doing to prevent it that I'm likely not doing?

Newbie1961
07-19-20, 22:47
You have to remember you NEVER know how many guy's these girls are actually seeing. Or what their social lives a like right now. No matter what they tell you.


I am active on SA for a month, messaged many promising POTs, but having a hard time pulling the trigger. I have a Medicare card, and a so, getting coronavirus is not an option. I would pick one SB to stick w / if I found the right one. I am nervous about the single moms who share custody, seems like the kid could be a vector. I M&G a 23 YO yesterday, claims to be pretty safe, but she has a roommate. So if the roommate is dumb, she's at risk. She was late to the M&G, so it was only about 30 min, she didn't wear a mask, but I did. Today, I am nervous as a cat. Checking symptoms, etc. Perhaps I couldn't do this at this time.

John HandCock
07-20-20, 00:03
I am active on SA for a month, messaged many promising POTs, but having a hard time pulling the trigger. I have a Medicare card, and a so, getting coronavirus is not an option. I would pick one SB to stick w / if I found the right one. I am nervous about the single moms who share custody, seems like the kid could be a vector. I M&G a 23 YO yesterday, claims to be pretty safe, but she has a roommate. So if the roommate is dumb, she's at risk. She was late to the M&G, so it was only about 30 min, she didn't wear a mask, but I did. Today, I am nervous as a cat. Checking symptoms, etc. Perhaps I couldn't do this at this timeYeah you should probably out it on hold for now. First people especially the youngest are living their lives so your never going to find someone 100%safe. Also got to realize it's a virus and everyone is going to catch it sooner or later, no way around it. Even if you do everything right somewhere it's going to latch on to ya. Everyone has to do what they feel is right for them.

Cubico
07-20-20, 00:27
PICS - 9/10 . . . I agreed on 50% more than my normal allowance.

In Person - 5/10

Not 22, probably 27+ and I wouldn't hang with her for free.

Uber'd her to coffee shope near me, sent her right back.

If I was less of a gentleman, I'd of left her there. Very disappointing

https://www.seeking.com/member/71fd47ca-bf8b-448f-add9-1f2cb56fef77I'm curious, were the photos not of her at all, or just very old photos and she just aged not so nicely to say the least?

RanManCan
07-20-20, 01:29
I'm curious, were the photos not of her at all, or just very old photos and she just aged not so nicely to say the least?Probably her. . . On her best day, dolled up, 5 yrs ago, with perfect picture angles, selected among 100's of pics.

RanManCan
07-20-20, 01:39
I am active on SA for a month, messaged many promising POTs, but having a hard time pulling the trigger. I have a Medicare card, and a so, getting coronavirus is not an option. I would pick one SB to stick w / if I found the right one. I am nervous about the single moms who share custody, seems like the kid could be a vector. I M&G a 23 YO yesterday, claims to be pretty safe, but she has a roommate. So if the roommate is dumb, she's at risk. She was late to the M&G, so it was only about 30 min, she didn't wear a mask, but I did. Today, I am nervous as a cat. Checking symptoms, etc. Perhaps I couldn't do this at this time.FarFarAway.

10,040 k LA County population (2019).

153 k total confirmed cases in LA County as of today.

1. 52% confirmed infected at some point.

Most of 153 k recovered and non-transmittal at this point.

But, many undiagnosed. . . So lets call it even.

Young SBs probably less susceptible / less contagious. . . But probably interact with more people, so I think that even's out too.

So, 1. 52% (1 in 66) of LA County population probably contagious at this point.

Them's your odds as best I can tell.

HollywoodGuy
07-20-20, 16:39
I def get catfished way more than every 5 years. . . What are you doing to prevent it that I'm likely not doing?I think mostly dating in the 18-20 range helps. If a girl is 18 how much could she have changed since she posted her profile? If the profile is brand new at any age most likely the pics are accurate. You could always ask the girl to txt you a pic prior to meeting. I have just never found it to be an issue. Also I only (like 90%) of the time message girls listed as slender. Usually spinner types or very slender. A naturally tiny girl isn't likely to gain much weight ever. As far as not the girl in the pic... that has never happened to me.

HollywoodGuy
07-20-20, 19:51
https://www.seeking.com/member/bb7be9cb-8f8c-43c7-9252-eff24bca0422

Pretty sure this is a very wack girl that keeps getting new profiles to stay one step ahead of the dissatisfied guys she leaves behind.

RanManCan
07-21-20, 00:07
Came across this, though of you HG. . . But you probably come across already.

https://www.seeking.com/member/395e6f25-ae01-40fe-9908-f7014e4bbea9

SBWestside310
07-21-20, 00:52
Hi guys,

Totally new to all this. Not quite as a hobbyist as between relationships through out the last few years seen a select handleful of ladies.

I'm 40. Single, no kids & owner of a very time consuming business. Try to stay in decent shape, tall, well groomed & decent looking for an average guy.

Anyways been seeing this mature provider, yes you heard me right on that, she's close to 10 years older & physically the chemistry seems to be getting better at least on my end as time goes on. Plus conversing with her is really nice. Compared to others she seems to be fairly open & Idk could be acting taking me for a sucker which I wouldn't 100% doubt but it's all still very nice & appreciated.

Given with how busy I am & with the whole covid pandemic thinking of making it a semi ongoing deal. Few nights a month on a trial basis for couple months & see how that works out. Not looking for anything serious at the moment as got too much on my plate but the familiar company & physical aspect sounds appealing to me these days.

Before I get flamed I prefer the company of women close to my age & older as I feel there is more in common on a connection level. Just my opinion but the real young ones are a very awkward fit for me LOL. Doesn't mean I'm looking for anything serious but stimulating conversion is just as sexy with a woman as the other stuff.

Any advice as we are going to talk later in week & already threw it out there. Don't really have a plan of attack other than what I've stated & paying her in line with what I know would potentially be worth her time. Looking to be fair & want us both to have an even level on comfort if it's going to be a go. Don't have any preconceived notions & just looking for a fun time right now.

Thanks.

FarFarAway
07-21-20, 15:53
Hmmm, maybe you should be doing what I am right now, looking at the women on ourtime.com - the dating website that advertises for over 50's. I have a profile w / no photo and no subscription, so I can't message. I do have a SO, I guess I can't really be putting my full picture up there. I find some hotties there, and they'd be free, presumably. Gravitating toward those who list things like casual dating, not long-term relationship. Anyone else have experience fishing in this pond? I have an over 50 in-law, trying to date these days, she says she often comes across guys who it becomes apparent are actually married. YK, can only meet in the daytime, don't provide a business card, etc.


Hi guys,

Totally new to all this. Not quite as a hobbyist as between relationships through out the last few years seen a select handleful of ladies.

I'm 40. Single, no kids & owner of a very time consuming business. Try to stay in decent shape, tall, well groomed & decent looking for an average guy.

Anyways been seeing this mature provider, yes you heard me right on that, she's close to 10 years older & physically the chemistry seems to be getting better at least on my end as time goes on. Plus conversing with her is really nice. Compared to others she seems to be fairly open & Idk could be acting taking me for a sucker which I wouldn't 100% doubt but it's all still very nice & appreciated.

HollywoodGuy
07-21-20, 16:33
Came across this, though of you HG. . . But you probably come across already.

https://www.seeking.com/member/395e6f25-ae01-40fe-9908-f7014e4bbea9There is no picture on her profile. I never message a girl with no pics.

HollywoodGuy
07-21-20, 16:34
https://www.seeking.com/member/54525f60-915c-4d69-b525-d1b4346b7375

Most likely a con. Asks for money upfront. Stopped messaging her after that request. Russian accent even in her txting. Boston area code.

HollywoodGuy
07-21-20, 16:40
https://www.seeking.com/member/6346ee51-c6c6-466f-a37d-9d8f420a58c4

Older latina. Quickly agreed to a $.

HollywoodGuy
07-21-20, 21:16
Came across this, though of you HG. . . But you probably come across already.

https://www.seeking.com/member/395e6f25-ae01-40fe-9908-f7014e4bbea9Actually I did message her. But her pic is down so I can't recall what she looked like. But I message a lot of girls. Had some real beauties turn me down today as they wanted at least $$. Maybe next year.

HollywoodGuy
07-22-20, 00:43
https://www.seeking.com/member/4edbc459-64c5-43d9-b613-bcf5971a84bf

Very sexy. She turned me down but probably would take $$ if you have some game. Her private pics look really good.

TylerDurd
07-22-20, 20:49
Went against my gut and pushed the envelope (not even by much) with an honestly 7/10 today. She was very frantically asking "what are we going to do at the meeting? To which I told her I wanted a romantic relationship. She was like "what does that mean? Now, learn from me boys but its at this point that you just block and move on. Even telling her I wanted something romantic off the get go is a little risky. Normally I'd go for the number before discussing the details. I tell her "you know what it means" (was a little frustrated), which led her to call me ugly loser, get a prostitute yada yada, and that she was going to report me for soliciting sex (technically did not do this) and they would ban me. Since my month was almost running out, and I didn't want to risk the possibility of not being able to remake an account with the same info, I actually preemptively deleted my account, and ill probably remake it in a week. Hopefully deleting means they won't keep my info on record and perma ban me.

Moral of the story:

1) move things to text before discussing details, if possible.

2) read her vibe. This girl was visibly and through text "unhinged".

3) preemptively block her if you get even slightly suspicious. Not worth getting banned over.

4) my personal advice: be overly nice and friendly. Any chance you give these girls to get pissed at you, they will take.

HollywoodGuy
07-22-20, 21:16
https://www.seeking.com/member/5f401a4f-99f5-42ec-8ea8-e4d83249343b

This girl has a new profile almost everyday. I keep blocking her and she just keeps favorite-ing me every time she gets a new profile.

And it's amazing how many girls are taking care of their aunt, granny or parents and can't go out right now. lol... I always tell them to hmu in a year or two when the covid settles down.

Lotus007
07-23-20, 00:28
Hmmm, maybe you should be doing what I am right now, looking at the women on ourtime.com - the dating website that advertises for over 50's. I have a profile w / no photo and no subscription, so I can't message. I do have a SO, I guess I can't really be putting my full picture up there. I find some hotties there, and they'd be free, presumably. Gravitating toward those who list things like casual dating, not long-term relationship. Anyone else have experience fishing in this pond? I have an over 50 in-law, trying to date these days, she says she often comes across guys who it becomes apparent are actually married. YK, can only meet in the daytime, don't provide a business card, etc.I have been on seeking and other platforms for more then 5 years with a fake pictures of same guy who I know and lives in other country. Other then my long term sb no one noticed that it's not my pictures.

More pots said, I should put better picture of mine as I look more handsome in person that tempts me to put real pic but That's not happening because of SO and large social circle and some of my employees as sb on seeking. (It's hard not to approach them when they are beautiful but there is a line between business and pleasure).

Use google pic search with your picture but meta-data removed and cropped image and it will show you results that matches your face.

Use pic of a guy that looks like you and not celebrity and edit image so facial features are not very clear with sunset or long shot.

No one will notice that you cat-fished them.

Lotus007
07-23-20, 00:29
https://www.seeking.com/member/6346ee51-c6c6-466f-a37d-9d8f420a58c4

Older latina. Quickly agreed to a $.She is a pro working on streets sometimes.

HollywoodGuy
07-23-20, 01:13
I have been on seeking and other platforms for more then 5 years with a fake pictures of same guy who I know and lives in other country. Other then my long term sb no one noticed that it's not my pictures.

More pots said, I should put better picture of mine as I look more handsome in person that tempts me to put real pic but That's not happening because of SO and large social circle and some of my employees as sb on seeking. (It's hard not to approach them when they are beautiful but there is a line between business and pleasure).

Use google pic search with your picture but meta-data removed and cropped image and it will show you results that matches your face.

Use pic of a guy that looks like you and not celebrity and edit image so facial features are not very clear with sunset or long shot.

No one will notice that you cat-fished them.I use my real pics but they were only shot for seeking. I have no social media and the little I do has no pics. Once I used a pic of a model but got way too many replies. LOL.

HollywoodGuy
07-23-20, 04:18
https://www.seeking.com/member/033787d2-888c-49cf-8619-dcc5e151bad5

"All things I sadly can not do at the moment because of covid, especially since I live and take care of my 82 year old grandma and can't take any chances with the current situation. ".

There must be a website somewhere coaching these girls. They all have 82 year old grandmas or aunties. LOL.

HollywoodGuy
07-23-20, 06:39
Her profile tags say:
Investor
Luxury lifestyle
Platonic

ME: My usual introduction. A little about me and what I think about sugar dating. I ask her about her motives.
HER: hi there love! Thank you for this and being so transparent! I actually really appreciate it. I think I would categorize myself as a financial girl? I'm in college and I'm looking to try and make some money so I can save it and help my parents pay for school.

ME: I tell her I don't pay much but I'm a nice guy and the sexual experiences she'll have could be memorable.
HER: Personally for me, the allowance part is somewhat important to me. BUT, having a connection and being able to vibe well with a SD is also a really important factor.

ME: I flatter her, tell her I am looking for something casual, and make her my usual $ offer.
HER: I completely get that, it's understandable.

ME: I flatter her again.
HER: awe, I'm flattered.

ME: I reiterate (so there is no misunderstanding) that if there's no honey then there is no money. And if she agrees then to txt me.
HER: I completely understand that, that makes sense! And I'll text you.

She texted me within a minute or two. Will it all work out? Maybe.
She could have sellers remorse and flake. It's always 50/50 when it goes like this.

RanManCan
07-24-20, 14:17
Didn't realize they were experienced UTRs, but still hot and fun. . . Enjoy.

Allamericansweethart - Redhead w / matching carpet (shaved), hot and fun, drives from Santa Monica area.

** https://www.seeking.com/member/1e39c79a-2815-40c6-9b58-ab9108597a54

NatashaL- 19 w, tad loony, hot w / a touch of thick. Almost never drives.

** https://www.seeking.com/member/fd3bec27-dff1-426e-860c-6b2c4667df9e

HollywoodGuy
07-24-20, 16:18
Didn't realize they were experienced UTRs, but still hot and fun. . . Enjoy.

Allamericansweethart - Redhead w / matching carpet (shaved), hot and fun, drives from Santa Monica area.

** https://www.seeking.com/member/1e39c79a-2815-40c6-9b58-ab9108597a54

NatashaL- 19 w, tad loony, hot w / a touch of thick. Almost never drives.

** https://www.seeking.com/member/fd3bec27-dff1-426e-860c-6b2c4667df9eSo how much were these girls?

Member #6433
07-24-20, 18:06
Why would you play on the site when you can just go on skip the game and get an Asian who is an undergrad at CSUN with BBBFS CIP for 100? Let me know if you want digits.Please send me the digits as well, thank you sir.

SoCalJimmy
07-25-20, 15:55
Please send me the digits as well, thank you sir.May I get digits as well. Sounds great!

HepCat096
07-25-20, 22:29
So I noticed the "script" lately where nearly every LA profile says they go to UCLA / USC, & are studying majors that are, as far as I know, non existent in UCLA's current course catalogue.

When I try to call out girls who do this that they have fake profiles, I immediately get defensive backlash insisting they are not fake. Once I show them just a few profikes similar to their own, I get blocked. Hmm.

So case in point, here are a few prime examples.

https://www.seeking.com/member/677062f1-bbf7-4947-a066-6b6696e34ae9

I go to ucla, I'm getting my doctorate in psychology and going to law school. I love shopping, traveling, going to the gym, going out with my friends and I'm trying to find someone to help me with traveling and shopping sprees.

https://www.seeking.com/member/23c8553b-cea4-44f6-bbfa-f1bf422a7aa7

Hello, I'm Jane! I am a 21 year old student, studying Chemistry at UCLA. I am very athletic and love playing sports, as well as shopping and spending time with my friends!

https://www.seeking.com/member/e4bea176-ca5b-4b46-a5c2-ddbbeb029c50

My name is Lyndsay! I am 24 years old, attending UCLA for my bachelor's in business, and currently living in Northridge! I enjoy hanging out with my friends and going out to some of my favorite restaurants around town.

https://www.seeking.com/member/10af6058-f46b-47c8-bff3-b3ad33db7aab

21 years old looking for a gentleman to spoil me. I'm a full time student at UCLA. Love going out with my best friend since elementary. Shopping is what we love to do ❤65039;.

https://www.seeking.com/member/72cfb46f-401f-47a5-8a3a-59db50f43422

Hi I'm mei (pronounced as may) ! I'm 20 and I'm a marketing major at ucla. I like to hang out with friends and shop hehe. I'm also trying to save up for a new car! I am open to anything, talk to me more through PM! 🤍.

https://www.seeking.com/member/15b56dd6-4ca1-4664-9af5-7d59434d4bac

My name is Aria, I am 23 years old. I live in Los Angeles California. I'm in college at UCLA. I am very athletic great at dancing. Love to shop and hang with friends.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d6e8ffea-1112-4e80-a96b-01cbfa0cce76

I'm Brooke and I am a 21 year-old, college student at UCLA getting a degree in business. I would say that I am a fun, spontaneous, loving, and loyal. My hobbies include reading and painting, and lately I've been trying to get into surfing! I came on this site to help pay for my college tuition, and I am looking for someone to help me with that. You treat me well and I will treat you even better.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f5e900ac-080c-4160-be7b-aea703bab99a

I'm 20 years old attending UCLA. I am very athletic and love to hangout with friends, go shopping and travel.

Yeah you get the picture.

JackMiles
07-25-20, 23:53
So I noticed the "script" lately where nearly every LA profile says they go to UCLA / USC, & are studying majors that are, as far as I know, non existent in UCLA's current course catalogue.

When I try to call out girls who do this that they have fake profiles, I immediately get defensive backlash insisting they are not fake. Once I show them just a few profikes similar to their own, I get blocked. Hmm.

So case in point, here are a few prime examples.

https://www.seeking.com/member/677062f1-bbf7-4947-a066-6b6696e34ae9

I go to ucla, I'm getting my doctorate in psychology and going to law school. I love shopping, traveling, going to the gym, going out with my friends and I'm trying to find someone to help me with traveling and shopping sprees.

https://www.seeking.com/member/23c8553b-cea4-44f6-bbfa-f1bf422a7aa7

Hello, I'm Jane! I am a 21 year old student, studying Chemistry at UCLA. I am very athletic and love playing sports, as well as shopping and spending time with my friends!

https://www.seeking.com/member/e4bea176-ca5b-4b46-a5c2-ddbbeb029c50

My name is Lyndsay! I am 24 years old, attending UCLA for my bachelor's in business, and currently living in Northridge! I enjoy hanging out with my friends and going out to some of my favorite restaurants around town.

https://www.seeking.com/member/10af6058-f46b-47c8-bff3-b3ad33db7aab

21 years old looking for a gentleman to spoil me. I'm a full time student at UCLA. Love going out with my best friend since elementary. Shopping is what we love to do ❤65039;.

https://www.seeking.com/member/72cfb46f-401f-47a5-8a3a-59db50f43422

Hi I'm mei (pronounced as may) ! I'm 20 and I'm a marketing major at ucla. I like to hang out with friends and shop hehe. I'm also trying to save up for a new car! I am open to anything, talk to me more through PM! 🤍.

https://www.seeking.com/member/15b56dd6-4ca1-4664-9af5-7d59434d4bac

My name is Aria, I am 23 years old. I live in Los Angeles California. I'm in college at UCLA. I am very athletic great at dancing. Love to shop and hang with friends.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d6e8ffea-1112-4e80-a96b-01cbfa0cce76

I'm Brooke and I am a 21 year-old, college student at UCLA getting a degree in business. I would say that I am a fun, spontaneous, loving, and loyal. My hobbies include reading and painting, and lately I've been trying to get into surfing! I came on this site to help pay for my college tuition, and I am looking for someone to help me with that. You treat me well and I will treat you even better.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f5e900ac-080c-4160-be7b-aea703bab99a

I'm 20 years old attending UCLA. I am very athletic and love to hangout with friends, go shopping and travel.

Yeah you get the picture.Yeah, definitely templated profiles by some scammer. You know how incredibly hard it is to get into UCLA these days. Laughable that half of the student body are on seeking.

HollywoodGuy
07-26-20, 09:43
So I noticed the "script" lately where nearly every LA profile says they go to UCLA / USC, & are studying majors that are, as far as I know, non existent in UCLA's current course catalogue.

When I try to call out girls who do this that they have fake profiles, I immediately get defensive backlash insisting they are not fake. Once I show them just a few profikes similar to their own, I get blocked. Hmm.

So case in point, here are a few prime examples.

https://www.seeking.com/member/677062f1-bbf7-4947-a066-6b6696e34ae9

I go to ucla, I'm getting my doctorate in psychology and going to law school. I love shopping, traveling, going to the gym, going out with my friends and I'm trying to find someone to help me with traveling and shopping sprees.

https://www.seeking.com/member/23c8553b-cea4-44f6-bbfa-f1bf422a7aa7

Hello, I'm Jane! I am a 21 year old student, studying Chemistry at UCLA. I am very athletic and love playing sports, as well as shopping and spending time with my friends!

https://www.seeking.com/member/e4bea176-ca5b-4b46-a5c2-ddbbeb029c50

My name is Lyndsay! I am 24 years old, attending UCLA for my bachelor's in business, and currently living in Northridge! I enjoy hanging out with my friends and going out to some of my favorite restaurants around town.

https://www.seeking.com/member/10af6058-f46b-47c8-bff3-b3ad33db7aab

21 years old looking for a gentleman to spoil me. I'm a full time student at UCLA. Love going out with my best friend since elementary. Shopping is what we love to do ❤65039;.

https://www.seeking.com/member/72cfb46f-401f-47a5-8a3a-59db50f43422

Hi I'm mei (pronounced as may) ! I'm 20 and I'm a marketing major at ucla. I like to hang out with friends and shop hehe. I'm also trying to save up for a new car! I am open to anything, talk to me more through PM! 🤍.

https://www.seeking.com/member/15b56dd6-4ca1-4664-9af5-7d59434d4bac

My name is Aria, I am 23 years old. I live in Los Angeles California. I'm in college at UCLA. I am very athletic great at dancing. Love to shop and hang with friends.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d6e8ffea-1112-4e80-a96b-01cbfa0cce76

I'm Brooke and I am a 21 year-old, college student at UCLA getting a degree in business. I would say that I am a fun, spontaneous, loving, and loyal. My hobbies include reading and painting, and lately I've been trying to get into surfing! I came on this site to help pay for my college tuition, and I am looking for someone to help me with that. You treat me well and I will treat you even better.

https://www.seeking.com/member/f5e900ac-080c-4160-be7b-aea703bab99a

I'm 20 years old attending UCLA. I am very athletic and love to hangout with friends, go shopping and travel.

Yeah you get the picture.These profiles are about as legit and plain jane as you can get. A little fudge here or there is NBD. Chill out and relax... and you might even get laid.

HollywoodGuy
07-26-20, 09:46
https://www.seeking.com/member/401e8388-8c07-4c58-91ee-f495721b2935

This pro girl says she just moved here and is txting me regularly though not obsessively. She agree to my $ a date. Currently following up on a couple others less seasoned. Inglewood. I didn't ask but wouldn't be shocked if she was staying at a hotel near LAX.

VinoVeritas034
07-26-20, 21:03
Had to post about my horrific experience with this MILF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d2431158-97e0-4b20-9e73-72b694f91909

We met at an upscale hotel in Santa Clarita, which was halfway between us. Negotiated price and duration ahead of time, and I confirmed it again by phone day of meeting. She was very pleasant by text and phone so I felt good going in. Then she arrived at hotel looking and smelling awful. She advertises herself at 45 but that's a lie. Skin like leather. Botox injections and lip fillers gone awry. Personal hygiene atrocious and I will let others fill in the blanks on that one. Glory days are definitely well behind her and pics are years old. I should have bolted then but I was out of pocket for the Lyft she insisted I pay for, so I showed her up to the room. This is where things got even worse. We started at it and as I was pumping away there was a loud banging at the door. Not a knock but an aggressive banging, even though the Do Not Disturb tag was on the door. I should have stopped but the little head was thinking for the big head, so I finished. Things then went from worse to God awful when she hopped up, checked the envelope and demanded twice the amount we pre-negotiated and that I confirmed only hours before. I said no and she grabbed her huge handbag and started to dig around it frantically while swearing at me. She already looked like she was on something when she arrived and I was fearing for my safety, so I paid her off, threw my clothes on, vacated the room and checked out by phone as I literally ran out of the hotel to my car. Worst experience ever.

Boobman76
07-27-20, 01:17
Had to post about my horrific experience with this MILF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d2431158-97e0-4b20-9e73-72b694f91909

We met at an upscale hotel in Santa Clarita, which was halfway between us. Negotiated price and duration ahead of time, and I confirmed it again by phone day of meeting. She was very pleasant by text and phone so I felt good going in. Then she arrived at hotel looking and smelling awful. She advertises herself at 45 but that's a lie. Skin like leather. Botox injections and lip fillers gone awry. Personal hygiene atrocious and I will let others fill in the blanks on that one. Glory days are definitely well behind her and pics are years old. I should have bolted then but I was out of pocket for the Lyft she insisted I pay for, so I showed her up to the room. This is where things got even worse. We started at it and as I was pumping away there was a loud banging at the door. Not a knock but an aggressive banging, even though the Do Not Disturb tag was on the door. I should have stopped but the little head was thinking for the big head, so I finished. Things then went from worse to God awful when she hopped up, checked the envelope and demanded twice the amount we pre-negotiated and that I confirmed only hours before. I said no and she grabbed her huge handbag and started to dig around it frantically while swearing at me. She already looked like she was on something when she arrived and I was fearing for my safety, so I paid her off, threw my clothes on, vacated the room and checked out by phone as I literally ran out of the hotel to my car. Worst experience ever.Check out CreativeOne595's post#4878 from 07/07/20. Same girl.

HollywoodGuy
07-27-20, 03:06
Had to post about my horrific experience with this MILF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d2431158-97e0-4b20-9e73-72b694f91909

We met at an upscale hotel in Santa Clarita, which was halfway between us. Negotiated price and duration ahead of time, and I confirmed it again by phone day of meeting. She was very pleasant by text and phone so I felt good going in. Then she arrived at hotel looking and smelling awful. She advertises herself at 45 but that's a lie. Skin like leather. Botox injections and lip fillers gone awry. Personal hygiene atrocious and I will let others fill in the blanks on that one. Glory days are definitely well behind her and pics are years old. I should have bolted then but I was out of pocket for the Lyft she insisted I pay for, so I showed her up to the room. This is where things got even worse. We started at it and as I was pumping away there was a loud banging at the door. Not a knock but an aggressive banging, even though the Do Not Disturb tag was on the door. I should have stopped but the little head was thinking for the big head, so I finished. Things then went from worse to God awful when she hopped up, checked the envelope and demanded twice the amount we pre-negotiated and that I confirmed only hours before. I said no and she grabbed her huge handbag and started to dig around it frantically while swearing at me. She already looked like she was on something when she arrived and I was fearing for my safety, so I paid her off, threw my clothes on, vacated the room and checked out by phone as I literally ran out of the hotel to my car. Worst experience ever.Not saying you didn't do the right thing. But I never carry more than 20 dollars over the amount of my donation on me.... ever. And always leave my wallet locked in the car before going in the room if i am unsure about things. And only one credit card in my wallet.

Domino727
07-27-20, 11:44
Had to post about my horrific experience with this MILF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d2431158-97e0-4b20-9e73-72b694f91909

We met at an upscale hotel in Santa Clarita, which was halfway between us. Negotiated price and duration ahead of time, and I confirmed it again by phone day of meeting. She was very pleasant by text and phone so I felt good going in. Then she arrived at hotel looking and smelling awful. She advertises herself at 45 but that's a lie. Skin like leather. Botox injections and lip fillers gone awry. Personal hygiene atrocious and I will let others fill in the blanks on that one. Glory days are definitely well behind her and pics are years old. I should have bolted then but I was out of pocket for the Lyft she insisted I pay for, so I showed her up to the room. This is where things got even worse. We started at it and as I was pumping away there was a loud banging at the door. Not a knock but an aggressive banging, even though the Do Not Disturb tag was on the door. I should have stopped but the little head was thinking for the big head, so I finished. Things then went from worse to God awful when she hopped up, checked the envelope and demanded twice the amount we pre-negotiated and that I confirmed only hours before. I said no and she grabbed her huge handbag and started to dig around it frantically while swearing at me. She already looked like she was on something when she arrived and I was fearing for my safety, so I paid her off, threw my clothes on, vacated the room and checked out by phone as I literally ran out of the hotel to my car. Worst experience ever.I would have rapped her across the jaw.

VinoVeritas034
07-27-20, 12:12
I would have rapped her across the jaw.Some good points here guys and I appreciate it. Between the loud banging on the door (which could have been her pimp but who knows) and her rifling around in her handbag for god only knows what, I was just scared sh*tless. But I have learned some valuable lessons from this experience.

RanManCan
07-27-20, 12:16
Had to post about my horrific experience with this MILF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d2431158-97e0-4b20-9e73-72b694f91909

We met at an upscale hotel in Santa Clarita, which was halfway between us. Negotiated price and duration ahead of time, and I confirmed it again by phone day of meeting. She was very pleasant by text and phone so I felt good going in. Then she arrived at hotel looking and smelling awful. She advertises herself at 45 but that's a lie. Skin like leather. Botox injections and lip fillers gone awry. Personal hygiene atrocious and I will let others fill in the blanks on that one. Glory days are definitely well behind her and pics are years old. I should have bolted then but I was out of pocket for the Lyft she insisted I pay for, so I showed her up to the room. This is where things got even worse. We started at it and as I was pumping away there was a loud banging at the door. Not a knock but an aggressive banging, even though the Do Not Disturb tag was on the door. I should have stopped but the little head was thinking for the big head, so I finished. Things then went from worse to God awful when she hopped up, checked the envelope and demanded twice the amount we pre-negotiated and that I confirmed only hours before. I said no and she grabbed her huge handbag and started to dig around it frantically while swearing at me. She already looked like she was on something when she arrived and I was fearing for my safety, so I paid her off, threw my clothes on, vacated the room and checked out by phone as I literally ran out of the hotel to my car. Worst experience ever.1. Shitty, sorry to hear it.

2. Get back on the horse.

3. Increase your standards SUBSTANTIALLY! Even old, ugly guys without much money can bang new 20-somethings on SA on a regular basis.

4. Get enough of them through your system that you're little head doesn't control you into banging crocodiles on meth.

5. Good luck!


I always meet them in public first and have a coffee, juice, quick lunch, if there is mutual attraction, we go to the FC. This way you can verify and have time to think.

Even then, things can go wrong . . . I do believe it is smart policy to solve the problem with cash and be done with it. I learned that lesson by reading about Obama's guys down in Columbia, a few hundo would have saved a lot of embarrassment and problems: https://www.washingtonian.com/2013/03/25/secret-service-prostitution-scandal-one-year-later/

Lotus007
07-28-20, 01:56
Not saying you didn't do the right thing. But I never carry more than 20 dollars over the amount of my donation on me.... ever. And always leave my wallet locked in the car before going in the room if i am unsure about things. And only one credit card in my wallet.I do same thing. If I'm picking up a girl to go fc, I always keep my valuables locked in glovebox including wallet, main phone and all documents that can potentially identify my real name or address.

Even after meeting them few times, I don't make exception to rule.

Always meet at public place first and no allowance for meet and greet. I let go of so many hot SBs who wanted a GIFT for first meet and I declined.

If she talks about how many hours, She is a pro. No gas money or Lyft or Uber. If she doesn't have car, I will pick her up from public place. No online transaction of any kind with them. Always cash in hand ONLY after did is done.

RanManCan
07-28-20, 14:04
Short and Hot, one and done for me. Enhanced, very talkative, not my type of personality, she's experienced but not quite UTR.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8390d94f-edc7-47c5-b718-7ee59664bf99

HollywoodGuy
07-28-20, 18:01
Short and Hot, one and done for me. Enhanced, very talkative, not my type of personality, she's experienced but not quite UTR.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8390d94f-edc7-47c5-b718-7ee59664bf99And what was the damage and for how long? Nice pics.

RanManCan
07-28-20, 18:50
And what was the damage and for how long? Nice pics.She accepted what I offered, which I'm not going to disclose. Would probably accept less.

I'm happy to point out SBs that I'm not going to see anymore, and let you all know if the experience was good / bad / other.

HollywoodGuy
07-28-20, 22:09
https://www.seeking.com/member/81bbcbb1-3161-4680-8b4f-b2dc07e42dd4

Too far and too tired after work right now. Just moved here from arizona? 19 blond white girl accepted my offer of $. Tomorrow it could be double that. North Hills. And she just blocked me. Either way timing is obviously of the essence

RanManCan
07-28-20, 22:48
https://www.seeking.com/member/81bbcbb1-3161-4680-8b4f-b2dc07e42dd4

Too far and too tired after work right now. Just moved here from arizona? 19 blond white girl accepted my offer of $. Tomorrow it could be double that. North Hills. And she just blocked me. Either way timing is obviously of the essence"Profile Not Available" - probably got booted.

OcasianBoy
07-28-20, 23:38
https://www.seeking.com/member/4f8cdd02-763d-4118-9288-c758fbca26a5

This girl is dtf and looks pretty hot. Has anyone seen or have any info on her?

Mmorrison
07-29-20, 01:52
https://www.seeking.com/member/81bbcbb1-3161-4680-8b4f-b2dc07e42dd4

Too far and too tired after work right now. Just moved here from arizona? 19 blond white girl accepted my offer of $. Tomorrow it could be double that. North Hills. And she just blocked me. Either way timing is obviously of the essenceThe basic profile seemed suspect to me and her eagerness a little TGTBT.

CrsYeong
07-29-20, 04:45
Please send me the digits as well, thank you sir.Any luck with the CSUN undergrad?

RanManCan
07-29-20, 14:58
Is this profile still visible to you guys?

https://www.seeking.com/member/b05989fa-102f-407e-8071-affe3ea381f9

Not sure if she blocked me or deleted her account.

Wyerles1
07-29-20, 15:10
Is this profile still visible to you guys?

https://www.seeking.com/member/b05989fa-102f-407e-8071-affe3ea381f9



Not sure if she blocked me or deleted her account.Her account is been deleted.

RanManCan
07-29-20, 15:38
https://www.seeking.com/member/2ab08b20-2b59-4172-b3b8-d6ece7b32c8b

"I am currently in Europe waiting for him to open up the US borders in the meantime, I would like to meet someone special and come to La and stay there with him".

Probably a scam and not my thing anyway (waiting or live-in) . . . But damn that's a bod.

RanManCan
07-29-20, 16:59
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a511aff-7b49-4b54-a906-269648440841

Lilyrosebabe. Quick and Easy, Nice Body, pretty enough. UTR, CFS.

TylerDurd
07-29-20, 19:38
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a511aff-7b49-4b54-a906-269648440841

Lilyrosebabe. Quick and Easy, Nice Body, pretty enough. UTR, CFS.What was the damage?

HollywoodGuy
07-29-20, 21:44
https://www.seeking.com/member/44d85f34-a31c-4c9c-9d2f-8562e517044f

Wants 15 bengi's to play date.

PussyPumper
07-29-20, 23:37
https://www.seeking.com/member/44d85f34-a31c-4c9c-9d2f-8562e517044f

Wants 15 bengi's to play date.Surely not a problem for a gentleman of substance.

Rouleur
07-30-20, 00:35
Surely not a problem for a gentleman of substance.A Gentleman would have to be on a substance to pay that much.

Domino727
07-30-20, 12:05
https://www.seeking.com/member/44d85f34-a31c-4c9c-9d2f-8562e517044f

Wants 15 bengi's to play date.Or as I call them, Barcelona's.

Where in hell do these girls get their pricing? A Restoration Hardware catalogue?

Large Ess
07-30-20, 20:28
I have had pretty good responses to what I post and have met a number of hot women, a number of passionate women and luckily very few scams or crazies. I like AF women and Latinas. In my cicv life as well. I haven't dated a Caucasian woman in 25 years. But I have never been able to have any success with Asian women on the site. 90 percent of the time, not even a nibble. It's a mystery. I tried changing my intro significantly to be more about financial support as in the civi culture financial stability is very important to many Asian women I know. Didn't change a thing. Would love to share tips with anyone who has been doing well in that area but not with AF and Latina women. Fucking covid. There are TONS of hot women bored out of their minds right now, who would be down to having fun.

RanManCan
07-30-20, 21:07
I have had pretty good responses to what I post and have met a number of hot women, a number of passionate women and luckily very few scams or crazies. I like AF women and Latinas. In my cicv life as well. I haven't dated a Caucasian woman in 25 years. But I have never been able to have any success with Asian women on the site. 90 percent of the time, not even a nibble. It's a mystery. I tried changing my intro significantly to be more about financial support as in the civi culture financial stability is very important to many Asian women I know. Didn't change a thing. Would love to share tips with anyone who has been doing well in that area but not with AF and Latina women. Fucking covid. There are TONS of hot women bored out of their minds right now, who would be down to having fun.I've had a similar experience, though I haven't tried that hard. More white, latina, and mixes than I can handle. . . But very few asian. Of course, you should see this post about the virgin korean threesome http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites&p=4273950#post4273950.

My best guess is that they prefer their own.

TylerDurd
07-30-20, 23:36
I have had pretty good responses to what I post and have met a number of hot women, a number of passionate women and luckily very few scams or crazies. I like AF women and Latinas. In my cicv life as well. I haven't dated a Caucasian woman in 25 years. But I have never been able to have any success with Asian women on the site. 90 percent of the time, not even a nibble. It's a mystery. I tried changing my intro significantly to be more about financial support as in the civi culture financial stability is very important to many Asian women I know. Didn't change a thing. Would love to share tips with anyone who has been doing well in that area but not with AF and Latina women. Fucking covid. There are TONS of hot women bored out of their minds right now, who would be down to having fun.My experience has been that AA girls generally are ok with the least, then a tie with Latinas and White women / mix, then with AF demanding the most. You can of course find gems but they're just generally more conservative and used to guys who make good money. They're also far more likely to try the "online only" or "taking care of my grandma during COVID" thing. Anyway, bottom line is you got to keep fishing and be patient but don't expect much. You CAN get an AF but you might need to shell out at least 500 for an honestly pretty mediocre girl. If you put time and work into it daily you can find some gems. Also work on your script so it's less "transactional". The less you make it seem transactional and more like a traditional relationship the more comfortable she'll be.

FarFarAway
07-31-20, 00:32
I have had pretty good responses to what I post and have met a number of hot women, a number of passionate women and luckily very few scams or crazies. I like AF women and Latinas. In my cicv life as well. I haven't dated a Caucasian woman in 25 years. But I have never been able to have any success with Asian women on the site. 90 percent of the time, not even a nibble. It's a mystery. I tried changing my intro significantly to be more about financial support as in the civi culture financial stability is very important to many Asian women I know. Didn't change a thing. Would love to share tips with anyone who has been doing well in that area but not with AF and Latina women. Fucking covid. There are TONS of hot women bored out of their minds right now, who would be down to having fun.My experience, you're not missing anything. I haven't been too into the bodies, and they weren't particularly passionate or good at sex. They just squeal and mew when their tits are sucked. Admittedly, mine is a pretty small sample, like 5, but my best best SBs have been Caucasian, like me. There is an Asian girl on the site right now I'd bet you could score with, with a username like ComeandGo.

Large Ess
07-31-20, 20:04
My experience has been that AA girls generally are ok with the least, then a tie with Latinas and White women / mix, then with AF demanding the most. You can of course find gems but they're just generally more conservative and used to guys who make good money. They're also far more likely to try the "online only" or "taking care of my grandma during COVID" thing. Anyway, bottom line is you got to keep fishing and be patient but don't expect much. You CAN get an AF but you might need to shell out at least 500 for an honestly pretty mediocre girl. If you put time and work into it daily you can find some gems. Also work on your script so it's less "transactional". The less you make it seem transactional and more like a traditional relationship the more comfortable she'll be.I won't ever shell out that kind of $. I have had incredible experiences with the Hollywood Guy approach and don't plan to change that unless I feel it's really worth it. I've had plenty of Asian Pros and and had two or three that were fantastic and didn't ask for much more or about the same that I pay on SA. I haven't had any caucasian and haven't tried for any. Might be fun.

PussyPumper
07-31-20, 20:41
Or as I call them, Barcelona's.

Where in hell do these girls get their pricing? A Restoration Hardware catalogue?I don't think she really expected 1,500. Asking for an extravagant amount is simply the way some women say "NO!

Now there are a few who really are asking for that sort of money, but I doubt she is one of them.

HollywoodGuy
08-01-20, 00:02
Since I am still in the lower income group these days I have been putting most of my effort into the NP search again. I have had a few UTR's at a $ that I have passed on just to stay available for an NP or a UTR with matching sexual desires. So I haven't really had much sex lately. BooHoo. I supposedly have an FC date tomorrow with an NP I have been pursuing for about 9 months. And another with a civi x GF on Sunday. I am currently working in an industry that is unaffected by covid so I am hoping to see greener pastures in the new year (or maybe even this year).

RanManCan
08-01-20, 02:42
Quoted $700/ hr or $1600/ night, I didn't meet, hourly not my thing and obviously not going to pay that.

https://www.seeking.com/member/687fca20-e134-4561-a79a-e998c0aae206

Elena_belle formerly XoLaBunny.

Domino727
08-01-20, 12:36
Since I am still in the lower income group these days I have been putting most of my effort into the NP search again. I have had a few UTR's at a $ that I have passed on just to stay available for an NP or a UTR with matching sexual desires. So I haven't really had much sex lately. BooHoo. I supposedly have an FC date tomorrow with an NP I have been pursuing for about 9 months. And another with a civi x GF on Sunday. I am currently working in an industry that is unaffected by covid so I am hoping to see greener pastures in the new year (or maybe even this year).Ever try your hand at day trading? Or scalping? I've been doing it for 20 years. Last year I made 38% of my bank roll. This year I am already at 45%, with five months left of action. And that's with the huge crash in March factored in.

HollywoodGuy
08-01-20, 17:08
Ever try your hand at day trading? Or scalping? I've been doing it for 20 years. Last year I made 38% of my bank roll. This year I am already at 45%, with five months left of action. And that's with the huge crash in March factored in.Nope. I am just focused on building up my new business. Its all I really have time for.

Cubico
08-01-20, 20:49
Her account is been deleted.When a girl blocks you her profile address just shows as seeking.com when you hover over the profile in your message list, if she deleted her account or got kicked out the address would show as normal, with the number at the end of the address.

HollywoodGuy
08-02-20, 14:54
When a girl blocks you her profile address just shows as seeking.com when you hover over the profile in your message list, if she deleted her account or got kicked out the address would show as normal, with the number at the end of the address.When it says "Sugar Baby" it means her account was deleted. If it still has her profile name then she just blocked you alone but still has her account.

HollywoodGuy
08-02-20, 17:47
Just had a girl tell me she wanted to fuck but needed .4 upfront to meet due to covid. Whatever that means. I told her no guy in their right mind pays in advance. She then told me she ROBed guys of $$$$$ in the last week with her scam. Never pay up front.

RanManCan
08-02-20, 20:14
When a girl blocks you her profile address just shows as seeking.com when you hover over the profile in your message list, if she deleted her account or got kicked out the address would show as normal, with the number at the end of the address.Cool, thanks for the tip.

HepCat096
08-02-20, 20:23
https://www.seeking.com/member/71d9b274-6d55-4d4f-bfba-785c8076ce31

Quick headsup. This one claims to be Vanna Bardot, adult film star. She literally said "I give head too".

I'd certainly hope so at 500/ hour.

She insists upon 200 deposit now, 300 after our "sex meetup".

Domino727
08-02-20, 21:25
Just had a girl tell me she wanted to fuck but needed .4 upfront to meet due to covid. Whatever that means. I told her no guy in their right mind pays in advance. She then told me she ROBed guys of $$$$$ in the last week with her scam. Never pay up front.Would be nice to know who to avoid.

SFVsag
08-02-20, 21:42
Would be nice to know who to avoid.Who?

ANY person that asks for a gift card / prepayment before meeting. No exceptions.

Jendabaze
08-03-20, 17:18
Would be nice to know who to avoid.I avoid these types of profiles.

1-Anyone who replies without viewing your profile. They usually hit you up for gas, Uber money or want a deposit before meeting.

2-Anyone who uses dear in her reply: 'Hello dear" How was your day dear" Usually is someone out of the country who wants to sell pictures or asks for money after talking for a while.

3-Her location is out of the country.

Member #6433
08-03-20, 17:54
What are your experiences on spending. 9 $/ month for messaging and extra time sorting through fakes / scams / time wasters on seeking, versus a fixed hhr / hr from sites like pd, tryst, etc. For 4 $ - 5 $?

I'm new to hobbying, just started a couple of weeks ago. I am very picky about looks, but I also want to optimize my time / money spent setting up successful meetings.

JackMiles
08-03-20, 21:42
I avoid these types of profiles.

1-Anyone who replies without viewing your profile. They usually hit you up for gas, Uber money or want a deposit before meeting.

2-Anyone who uses dear in her reply: 'Hello dear" How was your day dear" Usually is someone out of the country who wants to sell pictures or asks for money after talking for a while.

3-Her location is out of the country.Yep, the profiles will usually say "second location" in them. Just was messaging back and forth with one who wanted me to pay for their uber to meet up. I told her I'd cover them when we met. Obviously I never got a reply back.

FarFarAway
08-04-20, 00:46
What are your experiences on spending. 9 $/ month for messaging and extra time sorting through fakes / scams / time wasters on seeking, versus a fixed hhr / hr from sites like pd, tryst, etc. For 4 $ - 5 $?

I'm new to hobbying, just started a couple of weeks ago. I am very picky about looks, but I also want to optimize my time / money spent setting up successful meetings.You seem like a guy who'd like to get right to the point. I'd say that you could do some of that on SA, there's no effective means of excluding the under-the-radar escorts.

Shyzai
08-04-20, 00:49
I re-upped my membership for the month of August and every woman today wanted online relationships, citing the fear of COVID. Also, they either had siblings and parents or grandparents, whom they need to protect. I even tried offering lots of sugar to get them to meet, but it was no bueno. This is the worst I have ever had it. I know we complain about SA all the time, but this is the worst I have ever experienced. Do these women think that we are irredeemably ugly and lonely beasts? They even suggest that they would talk to me and comfort me for compensation. Sweetheart, I do not lack female companionship in the real world. I have tons of friends and families, both male and female. I just want to fuck you. If I wanted to speak with a woman and pour out my heart, I'd schedule an appointment with my therapist. And what in the name of Jesus could a 20 year old girl do to verbally cheer me up. Sorry for ranting.

Happtrav
08-04-20, 00:54
After being banned on SA, I signed up again with a new email address, different photos and all was well.

Until I tired to buy a membership with a prepaid CC. My account was suspended. After 4 days of emailing SA Customer service, I was told I had a previous account that was banned. Hence they are banning me again.

How did SA connect up the accounts?

I only use the SA App on my android phone, never use SA on a computer.


For all the ways to keep your self hidden / anonymous, look at the archive of the Richmond VA sugar thread. I use a browser that has a built-in VPN. However, that one (Epic) doesn't work w / SA right now. You can use Tor, which bounces your internet signal all around the world, and its different every time you use it (even change it on the fly if you want). It may also be that they are looking at the MAC address of your device. You can spoof that too. Finally, if you are using a home cable internet wireless, you might also try unplugging the modem and then restarting it after a judicious amount of time, that should reset the IP address. Do all of those things, don't reuse photos if they were on a profile that got banned, use a new prepaid you've never used before, change your 'sugar' pretext information (name address, etc.) and you should be good. Oh, yeah, don't use any email addresses you used before. I have a service (hushmail) that gives me unlimited ability to make aliases, so that is pretty easy.

Cubico
08-04-20, 01:29
When it says "Sugar Baby" it means her account was deleted. If it still has her profile name then she just blocked you alone but still has her account.That actually wasn't the case for me, the username change seems random, but the address link trick always worked. I have a second account that I created in case my main one gets banned and used it a few times to check my theory. The address link thing never failed, but I have seen the username change when a girl blocked me and vice-versa.

Cubico
08-04-20, 01:38
After being banned on SA, I signed up again with a new email address, different photos and all was well.

Until I tired to buy a membership with a prepaid CC. My account was suspended. After 4 days of emailing SA Customer service, I was told I had a previous account that was banned. Hence they are banning me again.

How did SA connect up the accounts?

I only use the SA App on my android phone, never use SA on a computer.It could be your IP address or your cache on the app. I'm not sure how one completely cleans the cache on phone apps, maybe uninstalling and reinstalling. But I would just use a browser like chrome or firefox on the phone and make sure to clear the history completely including the cache and cookies (unless it's a browser you just installed for the first time), and wait at least 24 hours before trying again as most IP addresses on devices are changed every 24 h if always on like your wifi router or I think they are changed at each restart of the machine, so make sure to power cycle your router and your phone.

If after that you get banned again then it could either mean that your ISP (if you use the wifi at home on your phone) gave you a static IP but that is very rare. If that's the case, don't use your wifi, if not then I don't know, maybe face recognition software and they were able to find similarities between the old and new ones?

FarFarAway
08-04-20, 02:40
After being banned on SA, I signed up again with a new email address, different photos and all was well.

Until I tired to buy a membership with a prepaid CC. My account was suspended. After 4 days of emailing SA Customer service, I was told I had a previous account that was banned. Hence they are banning me again.

How did SA connect up the accounts?

I only use the SA App on my android phone, never use SA on a computer.You've answered your own question.

PussyPumper
08-04-20, 03:03
After being banned on SA, I signed up again with a new email address, different photos and all was well.

Until I tired to buy a membership with a prepaid CC. My account was suspended. After 4 days of emailing SA Customer service, I was told I had a previous account that was banned. Hence they are banning me again.

How did SA connect up the accounts?

I only use the SA App on my android phone, never use SA on a computer.The obvious questions are:

- Did you reuse the SA app on your phone or reinstall? I am sure that each download will have a unique I'd number. Even if new, it will almost certainly know which phone / android account it was downloaded to. So I use the web interface rather than the app.

- As other poster said, is your IP address the same (if using WiFi)? They 100% monitor / record that.

Happtrav
08-04-20, 10:28
As FarFaraway mentioned, I think my mistake was downloading the App from the same Google account.

I was using a fresh install of the App on my phone.

Either way, I am appalled at the SA monitoring.

I had no troubles for a year, and then the SA banning started.

Sadly, SA is a monopoly. They can do whatever they want.

No other SD App / site comes close to the SA traffic.

I value my freedom. Done with SA for good.

This also explains why a lot of SD websites are based overseas.


The obvious questions are:

- Did you reuse the SA app on your phone or reinstall? I am sure that each download will have a unique I'd number. Even if new, it will almost certainly know which phone / android account it was downloaded to. So I use the web interface rather than the app.

- As other poster said, is your IP address the same (if using WiFi)? They 100% monitor / record that.

HollywoodGuy
08-04-20, 13:35
Would be nice to know who to avoid.Just avoid anyone that wants you to pre-pay.

OhHellYeah
08-04-20, 17:22
I re-upped my membership for the month of August and every woman today wanted online relationships, citing the fear of COVID. Also, they either had siblings and parents or grandparents, whom they need to protect. I even tried offering lots of sugar to get them to meet, but it was no bueno. This is the worst I have ever had it. I know we complain about SA all the time, but this is the worst I have ever experienced. Do these women think that we are irredeemably ugly and lonely beasts? They even suggest that they would talk to me and comfort me for compensation. Sweetheart, I do not lack female companionship in the real world. I have tons of friends and families, both male and female. I just want to fuck you. If I wanted to speak with a woman and pour out my heart, I'd schedule an appointment with my therapist. And what in the name of Jesus could a 20 year old girl do to verbally cheer me up. Sorry for ranting.There must be idiots who fall for it, otherwise more would meet in person. COVID has just given scammers a great excuse to keep guys at arms length. Some guys probably think they can get an online only situation to graduate to in person at some point? SA is a complete waste of money. I tried it and even following the suggestions of the people claiming to do well with it I got zero results. Hours and hours of wasted time and fortunately for me just a little bit of wasted money.

FarFarAway
08-04-20, 18:57
There must be idiots who fall for it, otherwise more would meet in person. COVID has just given scammers a great excuse to keep guys at arms length. Some guys probably think they can get an online only situation to graduate to in person at some point? SA is a complete waste of money. I tried it and even following the suggestions of the people claiming to do well with it I got zero results. Hours and hours of wasted time and fortunately for me just a little bit of wasted money.The most famous last words on a site like this, YMMV. Some people are suited for the sugar bowl, some are not. I have FC tomorrow w / a 10/10 movie star quality girl, foreign doctor, and she'll be my exclusive baby for a little over a kilobuck / mo. I paid for 1 month of SA and found her, as well as a 24 YO sliver of a girl who is a sub. Just wants the pleasure to be defiled by me.

Shyzai
08-04-20, 20:35
The most famous last words on a site like this, YMMV. Some people are suited for the sugar bowl, some are not. I have FC tomorrow w / a 10/10 movie star quality girl, foreign doctor, and she'll be my exclusive baby for a little over a kilobuck / mo. I paid for 1 month of SA and found her, as well as a 24 YO sliver of a girl who is a sub. Just wants the pleasure to be defiled by me.But are these ladies in Los Angeles or in California?

RanManCan
08-04-20, 23:35
The most famous last words on a site like this, YMMV. Some people are suited for the sugar bowl, some are not. I have FC tomorrow w / a 10/10 movie star quality girl, foreign doctor, and she'll be my exclusive baby for a little over a kilobuck / mo. I paid for 1 month of SA and found her, as well as a 24 YO sliver of a girl who is a sub. Just wants the pleasure to be defiled by me.FarFarAway. Do you only go with girls who are exclusive to you? Do you agree to be exclusive to them? If YES / NO, how do you pull that off?

I know HG says he doesn't give a shit what they do when not with him, but I must admit it bugs me to see one of my regulars on the site all the time.