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John G Smith
04-06-13, 04:22
Interesting discussion!
I actually agree with both sides to an extent. I tend to gravitate toward SBs who are in school (even community college) , live at home still, and work. My reasons are for both financial and security reasons.
Girls who are in college, live at home, and work generally have some stability and don't hit me every time just to put gas in their car or feed their "habit". Likewise, they don't need to solely live off my man-teet because their basic expenses are usually taken care of. I've found that girls in the 7/10 range who are college / job stable are usually happy with 150-250 per visit. Sometimes you can get it a little lower depending.
While I don't have SBs coming to my house, I like stable SBs because do they have an incentive to be discrete as well. A girl who works, goes to school, and lives at home isn't going to get too crazy generally. Even with college SBs and pots where it didn't work out, I've never had a stable SB give me any kind of trouble in terms of blackmail or threats. The times I had trouble were always from girls who had no job, not in school, and lived on their friend's sofa.
That's why I do segment SBs into different categories. If you treat and approach every SB the same, you're going to get yourself into trouble depending on your situation.
That said, at least out here in Southern California, you don't have to spend 300-500 per visit to get a stable SB. Granted, if you're aiming for perfect 10 white and asians, then maybe you'll have to spend that much. But there are a ton of very good looking young 20 something girls that can be had for 150-250 out here. It's still a buyer's market, so be careful that you're not over-paying. A lot of girls may come out the gate wanting 400-500 but can be fairly easily talked down to a lower amount if you sound serious and respectful.
Also be aware that many of the "10/10" girls who ask for 500 and above are indeed UTR highend call girls. Many highend call girls have "normal" day lives. So just be aware of that. Paying a premium price doesn't necessarily mean you're not getting a PRO.
I'm also one of the younger SDs on this board and it has both it's advantages and disadvantages. The advantage is that we sometimes have an easier time relating to 18/19 year-olds and the 20 somethings because we're only about a half a generation away from them. The downside is that many SBs don't think the young SDs have that much money and sometimes "quote" us higher amounts to make sure we're for real and not some young guy playing with a bonus check. And as Hollywood Guy said, there's a good chunk of girls who are on those sites simply because they have a thing for older men. SDs who are too close to their age may remind them of all the bad experiences they've had with men their age. It's probably why I've never had a SB over the age of 25. I'm in my 30s, so most SBs my age either want SDs in their 40s+ or they have a lot of baggage and expenses that I can't afford to support.
But overall, I'm believer that the SB game can be played in a many number of ways and with different objectives. I try not to pass too much judgment on any one method or objective. I just try to share my experiences given my own methods / objectives and let others readings determine if it's useful to them or not.
HollywoodGuy
04-06-13, 07:34
Interesting discussion!
That said, at least out here in Southern California, you don't have to spend 300-500 per visit to get a stable SB. Granted, if you're aiming for perfect 10 white and asians, then maybe you'll have to spend that much. But there are a ton of very good looking young 20 something girls that can be had for 150-250 out here.More like 2 tons. LOL. I realize that due to financial constraints I am always talking up the $ girls. But there are many worthy girls at $$. I sometimes get depressed at all my turn downs but being forced into the $ market has made me a better shopper and if and when I can return to the $$ market they would all have to be 9+/9+ with skills to match.
Beautiful face, awesome body, good skills. At $ you should get a minimum of 2 out of 3 but at $$ you should absolutely get 3 out of 3. If not the E volvement as subcomander likes to say is definitely factoring into your decision making. As a side note. I used to be married to the equivalent of one of those HouseWives type women. When I see the drama and expense those guys have to go through to get laid by girls that turn my gut (old, bitchy, demanding) i feel blessed to have lived long enough to have upped my game and slashed the price. My golden years how ever many i get will truly be golden.
Btw.. I am unaware of any other forum with the in depth and informative commentary on this topic on any site, other than this thread and the richmond thread. I want to thank all who contribute and on all the local L.A. threads as well. Super helpful all around.
Member #5570
04-06-13, 11:52
My CPO still comes out pretty good I'm young and so I recover quick and get multiple pops. Even in the California market, I shell about 250-500 for an 8-10 (non blk girl). I pay the premium to avoid Nando's and UTR. I fine girls who are verifiable, normal college educated a job no criminal history. Also I get most my girls off SA, because SA girls seem more normal then sd4me. The allowance publishing on SA causes GPS. You also have those sugar babys on the blogs, who are datig 1% guys and they ifluence others. Example I have a ddate with a latin MILF former fitness model, college educated, low security risk. This is what I pay that premium for. I could get a girl off sd4me for 150, but theres a chance she could be complete crazy nando. I need that piece of mind. Also, I think because I am on the younger end of sugar daddys. I rate girls a little harsher, because I associate with young woman in night clubs all the time. So a 7. 5 to some of you guys is a 5 or lower to me. I'm a lot more picky when it comes to looks is another reason, I pay a premium. But no worries it just like smart phones, some people want cheaper androids and other wants a premium for apple.I have to respectfully disagreed with this. There's nothing an Iphone 5s can do that a Samsung S4, LG Optimus G, or an HTC One X+ can't do.
As a matter of fact, these "cheaper" Android phones can do a few things better than the 5s, once rooted and unlocked. The 5s, raw performance wise, is already behind their competitors.
But getting back to SB. There are lots of values to be had in the 100-150 range. Given, you have to put in some more leg work.
As you can tell, I am a value shopper. I don't pay $3k for brand spanking new 1080p 3D LED HDTV that released on day 1. I wait 6 months later and get it for $1k less, or get last year's model for half the price.
But whatever rocks your boat.
LOL a spirited economics debate sub LOL in regards to Chicago vs LA. When I pay 250-500 in LA. I get away better looking girl or a girl of higher social quality than 250-500 gets me in Chicago. I conceded that the California and Florida markets were superior.
Markets where my money goes further. In regards to the phone arguement smartphones have productvity apps that make my life easier and allow me to get things done or enjoy luxurys that, I only could from my computer a few years ago. There are high end smart phones (Galaxy S4, Iphone 5s) that have the best productivity apps hardware (faster processor) superior software integration.
With faster updates and support. Then you have prepaid android phones with less stellar software and hardware, but your right.
If all you trying to do is text and call and maybe just use apps every once in awhile that is find. There are value phones like the nexus 4 that give you close to comparable functionality of the high end at a discount but they are still more expensive than low end walmart android.
As it applies to girls, I assign value on market research, not blind faith I want a hott normal non flaky chick who is employed.
Educated and good in the sack (anything less and I might as well go back to complete civy dating with a quarterly high end escort.
Hrown in the mix). In my research when I would first offer girls to pay their cell phone bill for a month or two 75-200 bucks on a constant basis the girls that would respond to that were only average to below average in looks and had a high propesity exhibitnando traits. The hott chicks that I wanted kept refusing my offers, so now I do my cell phone payment opening bid, more than likely, the girls I want refuse and I up the price. I find value sometime, thats better than the 250-500 that I usaully score in. I aslo cross reference the quality of my girls vs what other guys say they get on the SB, non pro and escort market. I compare the girls picture to the cheap girls on backpage and the expensive girls on eros or high end agency sites. I determine what she would go for on those markets per hour and make my decision in addition to adding in her security risk. I also compare her to my civy dates and compare cost advantage.
I don't think these girls love me like some of the guys in Richmond, but the sugar is cross between the escort and casual civy dating market. Unlike escorts alot of SB's will refuse certain advances for various reasons. Tom Bradys wife would not marry him if he wasnt a rich football player, but she probably would not marry ray lewis or donald trump either, so there are different factors at work than just economics like the escort market.You do no that up side down the pussy is the same at 500. 00 or 150. 00, I can not my self indulge into this high price pussy.
OMG. I think I found my new "Tag Line"
Now, I would rather fuck a 6 three times than a 10 once.
Gentleman,
Back on SA chatting the women up. Conversations going well but have not closed any deals.
Just got back from being stood up. Hate to admit it but the Commander just got worked. The SA profile is 148716 Nickname Holli. I send her my standard $100 offer which she accepts. Sends me pictures off line. We are good. Sets the initial meeting up at a chic Oceanside bar. Text conversation below:
Me: Are you here? 11:08 PM.
Her: No. 11:19 PM.
Me: What's up Baby? 11:21 PM.
Her: Offering $100 right off the bat seems pretty sketchy. To good to be true I guess. 11:23 PM.
Me: Baby, I was not going to give you $100 for just showing up. Seriously? 11:25 PM.
Her: Yeah. 11:26 PM.
Me: This is not match. Com. We check chemistry and do some private time. $100 is to let you know I am a SD. Not someone trying to date you! 11:27 PM.
Her: You and I are on the same page then. What is your expectation of $100? 11:28 PM.
Me: Whatever you are comfortable with. I expect no more than you are prepared to give. 11:30 PM.
Her: $100 isn't very much. 11:31 PM.
Me: Tell me. What do you want? 11:32 PM.
Her: $500 for max 2hrs. $100 to go down on me for like 10mins. $300 for an hour. I have a friend too if too want a 3some. 11:34 PM.
At this point I'm sitting my my car lmao!
Me: Baby are you a professional? 11:35 PM.
Her: I am well taken care of by gentlemen who have stamina that they need to give to a dirty girl. 11:37 PM.
Her: Me. 11:38 PM.
Her: My friend. 11:38 PM.
Me: Well I don't how well they take care of you if you are talking to me. But I will take your word for it. 11:39 PM.
Me: My needs are different and more modest. Are your friends rates the same? 11:39 PM.
Her: Yes hers are the same. 11:41 PM.
Me: Ok, You too roll in a different market than I do. 11:42 PM.
Me: Although I would appreciated it if you had up let me know you were going to show up. You did pick a nice place. 11:43 PM.
Her: What's your market? 11:44 PM.
Me:. You were not going to show up. 11:44 PM.
Her: What do you want to do? 11:47 PM.
Me: Baby I just want some head mish and doggy style. I want to bust a couple of times. Then we say our goodbyes into the next time. Simple and uncomplicated. 11:48 PM.
Her: What are you looking to spend? 11:49 PM.
Me: Not $500 or even $300 11:53 PM.
Her: Oh ok. .11:54 PM.
Me: How much for just some head? 12:06 AM.
Her: $150 have the play safe and you can nut on my tits. 12:08 AM.
Me: I don't mind CBJ'S but I would prefer $ and I have not even met you yet. The chemistry thing is important to me. 12:12 AM.
Me: $100 I mean 12:14 AM.
And that is it. So, I finish up my evening sexting to Ms. Canada which I'm meeting in Vegas at the end of the month. Her pussy is very wet in anticipation of my dick and she is letting me know.
So, I'm debriefing and completing my after action report. Phone number came back to a local handyman service. Photos were fine no hits on Google. So I can only figure UTR. I suppose her incall is close to the bar or right in the hotel where she directs you and she gets guys to just come on over. If not, she is just chilling in her room and no big deal for her.
HollywoodGuy
04-07-13, 11:41
Gentleman,
Back on SA chatting the garden tools up. Conversations going well but have not closed any deals.
Just got back from being stood up. Hate to admit it but the Commander just got worked. The SA profile is 148716 Nickname Holli. I send her my standard $100 offer which she accepts. Sends me pictures off line. We are good. Sets the initial meeting up at a chic Oceanside bar. Text conversation below:
Me: Are you here? 11:08 PM.
Her: No. 11:19 PM.
Me: What's up Baby? 11:21 PM.
Her: Offering $100 right off the bat seems pretty sketchy. To good to be true I guess. 11:23 PM.
Me: Baby, I was not going to give you $100 for just showing up. Seriously? 11:25 PM.
Her: Yeah. 11:26 PM.
Me: This is not match. Com. We check chemistry and do some private time. $100 is to let you know I am a SD. Not someone trying to date you! 11:27 PM.
Her: You and I are on the same page then. What is your expectation of $100? 11:28 PM.
Me: Whatever you are comfortable with. I expect no more than you are prepared to give. 11:30 PM.
Her: $100 isn't very much. 11:31 PM.
Me: Tell me. What do you want? 11:32 PM.
Her: $500 for max 2hrs. $100 to go down on me for like 10mins. $300 for an hour. I have a friend too if too want a 3some. 11:34 PM.
At this point I'm sitting my my car lmao!
Me: Baby are you a professional? 11:35 PM.
Her: I am well taken care of by gentlemen who have stamina that they need to give to a dirty girl. 11:37 PM.
Her: Me. 11:38 PM.
Her: My friend. 11:38 PM.
Me: Well I don't how well they take care of you if you are talking to me. But I will take your word for it. 11:39 PM.
Me: My needs are different and more modest. Are your friends rates the same? 11:39 PM.
Her: Yes hers are the same. 11:41 PM.
Me: Ok, You too roll in a different market than I do. 11:42 PM.
Me: Although I would appreciated it if you had up let me know you were going to show up. You did pick a nice place. 11:43 PM.
Her: What's your market? 11:44 PM.
Me:. You were not going to show up. 11:44 PM.
Her: What do you want to do? 11:47 PM.
Me: Baby I just want some head mish and doggy style. I want to bust a couple of times. Then we say our goodbyes into the next time. Simple and uncomplicated. 11:48 PM.
Her: What are you looking to spend? 11:49 PM.
Me: Not $500 or even $300 11:53 PM.
Her: Oh ok. .11:54 PM.
Me: How much for just some head? 12:06 AM.
Her: $150 have the play safe and you can nut on my tits. 12:08 AM.
Me: I don't mind CBJ'S but I would prefer $ and I have not even met you yet. The chemistry thing is important to me. 12:12 AM.
Me: $100 I mean 12:14 AM.
And that is it. So, I finish up my evening sexting to Ms. Canada which I'm meeting in Vegas at the end of the month. Her pussy is very wet in anticipation of my dick and she is letting me know.
So, I'm debriefing and completing my after action report. Phone number came back to a local handyman service. Photos were fine no hits on Google. So I can only figure UTR. I suppose her incall is close to the bar or right in the hotel where she directs you and she gets guys to just come on over. If not, she is just chilling in her room and no big deal for her.
There is a first for everything. Garden Tool: 1 v Commander: 0At 11:31 I would have just stopped txting and said f it. And I assume you knew it was over right then. But sometimes it is fun just see how lame the convo can get.
Member #2041
04-07-13, 11:46
At 11:31 I would have just stopped txting and said f it. And I assume you knew it was over right then. But sometimes it is fun just see how lame the convo can get.Just a suggestion. Don't offer or give them money UNTIL they show up. I've actually been on sugardaddie. Com, and a few years ago, had a few meetings, one of which led to a session with a woman looking to experience sex outside of her marriage for the first time, and a few actual dating relationships, but nowadays, I'm only being hit up by actual obvious gold diggers.
At 11:31 I would have just stopped txting and said f it. And I assume you knew it was over right then. But sometimes it is fun just see how lame the convo can get.HG, I realize it was over soon as she didn't show up. I'm good at the game. But I don't have the time in the game that you do. I considered it a learning experience. I had nothing else to do for the evening except text. It was an interesting conversation. That's why I shared.
You have a championship team. I'm still putting work on in and building mine.
I signed up to the SD site and when I looked around the profiles located near me, I found at least 40 that advertise on HX.
And I received a whole bunch of spam mails from the SB's looking for a pay day for nothing.
So far, I've contacted about 8 SB (all under 25yo and white) and 6 of them got back to me within a reasonable timeframe. However. 3 of them wanted some sort of money guarantee upon the 1st meeting which I rejected. I think the 1st meeting is suppose to find out if we're suitable for each other so further actions and move forward. The other 2 are obvious hustlers who wanted 500 and 800 for the day. Let's just say the approach from them reeks of a gold digger that I've tons of experience with. 1 of them 24yo blonde might work out since she didn't ask for anything and after a few back and forth and a nice convo on the phone, she is willing to go on a date on Tuesday, her off day from work. I will meet her for lunch and if that goes well, we'll see.
I think this is going to take some work from me which I don't know if I have the time for. I really don't like any strings attached. I can do the lunch and dinner thing but I just won't do any shopping or stroll on the beach crap. Don't need another SO, just need something non-pro for a fix on a regular basis.
Dirty Old Guy
04-07-13, 18:14
OC,
I don't think that being the sugar daddy should be hard work. SHE should be the one to carry the weight. She's the one who needs someone to support her (part-time or full-time) , she's the one who placed the ad on a site that is sex based and SHE is the one who knows she has to give it up in exchange for you taking care of her. Your job is to relax and enjoy it. Look busy. :D
Websters defines,"Sugar Daddy" as:
: a well-to-do usually older man who supports or spends lavishly on a mistress, girlfriend, or boyfriend
Come on OC. She knows that she's sellin the pussy, and that you're there to buy it. Jump into that thing and get sweaty!
Dirty.
I signed up to the SD site and when I looked around the profiles located near me, I found at least 40 that advertise on HX.
And I received a whole bunch of spam mails from the SB's looking for a pay day for nothing.
So far, I've contacted about 8 SB (all under 25yo and white) and 6 of them got back to me within a reasonable timeframe. However. 3 of them wanted some sort of money guarantee upon the 1st meeting which I rejected. I think the 1st meeting is suppose to find out if we're suitable for each other so further actions and move forward. The other 2 are obvious hustlers who wanted 500 and 800 for the day. Let's just say the approach from them reeks of a gold digger that I've tons of experience with. 1 of them 24yo blonde might work out since she didn't ask for anything and after a few back and forth and a nice convo on the phone, she is willing to go on a date on Tuesday, her off day from work. I will meet her for lunch and if that goes well, we'll see.
I think this is going to take some work from me which I don't know if I have the time for. I really don't like any strings attached. I can do the lunch and dinner thing but I just won't do any shopping or stroll on the beach crap. Don't need another SO, just need something non-pro for a fix on a regular basis.
John G Smith
04-08-13, 04:34
OC,
I don't think that being the sugar daddy should be hard work. SHE should be the one to carry the weight. She's the one who needs someone to support her (part-time or full-time) , she's the one who placed the ad on a site that is sex based and SHE is the one who knows she has to give it up in exchange for you taking care of her. Your job is to relax and enjoy it. Look busy. .Actually it is hard work being a sugar daddy. At least compared to seeing escorts or going to AMPs. Yes, in a successful SD / SB arrangement, the girl should be servicing you on your whims. But being a sugar daddy also requires you to be in deep cover (especially if you're married or have a high profile job). You have to keep track of aliases, hide communications, hide / destroy receipts, keep identifying info away from her at all times, avoid serious emotional attachment, and etc.
The end product with a SB is often far more satisfying than it is with an escort or Pro. But in comparison it takes a lot of work both in acquiring and maintaining. So don't kid yourself. If you under-estimate the work involved, you'll probably get burnt sooner rather than later.
Dirty Old Guy
04-08-13, 07:59
Commander,
I am speaking for myself. I am older, not well-to-do either, and the only garden tool I have is an entrenching tool. There ain't nothin lavish about me.
All I have for income are some investments, Social Security, Marine Corps pension (thanks for paying your taxes guys, so I can get my retirement check every month:D) and a part-time job as a marshal at a golf course, so I have to watch the pennies too. Maybe that's why I only do AMP's, BP and an occasional SW.
As John G. pointed out, there is a lot of CYA when it comes to doing the Sugar Daddy stuff. I guess I don't have the patience for all that. I guess it's nice to have one 'special' honey to go to on a regular basis, but I like more variety and also the ability to hit it and get on to the next one.
Carry on,
Dirty
Mr. Dirty Old Guy,
With all due respect speak for yourself. I am neither, well-to-do, older nor do I spend lavishly on my garden tools (LOL)!
Attention! Commander on deck!
DOG,
Like the initials dude.
It is a fact that the sugar bowl is risky and takes quite a bit of work and frustration. But the payoff can be so much bigger with the right baby. But to each his own. It is important to know who you are. Otherwise you are just lying to yourself and that is not good.
Be careful out there.
Revvo
PartyTimeGuy
04-08-13, 08:33
There are problems and issues with getting tail no matter what. SWs are handy but finding a good one can be a challenge. Escorts the same plus a lot more expensive. In-call places or massage parlors ditto. If you want a true gf experience and are willing to invest some time and energy then I guess having a few SBs is definitely a way to go.
My problem is that I bore easily sexually. So all the time I invest in a SB relationship and then I want something new. It is almost better to try the love them and leave them one-night stand-dating scene. But my experience seems similar to others I have noted on this thread. $ can get you something if you aren't too picky. $$ can get you most of what you want. $$$ can usually get you something prime. I prefer the SBs who are relatively new to this. They are thankful for the extra dough and not so jaded yet that they skate in the sack or want more than you might be willing to part with. SBs are on the menu for sure and IMHO are a lot better than the escorts / in-call / massage parlor scene. So for me it is SWs for a snack and SBs for a more satisfying meal.
HollywoodGuy
04-08-13, 15:40
Actually it is hard work being a sugar daddy. At least compared to seeing escorts or going to AMPs. Yes, in a successful SD / SB arrangement, the girl should be servicing you on your whims. But being a sugar daddy also requires you to be in deep cover (especially if you're married or have a high profile job). You have to keep track of aliases, hide communications, hide / destroy receipts, keep identifying info away from her at all times, avoid serious emotional attachment, and etc.
The end product with a SB is often far more satisfying than it is with an escort or Pro. But in comparison it takes a lot of work both in acquiring and maintaining. So don't kid yourself. If you under-estimate the work involved, you'll probably get burnt sooner rather than later.There is definitely a difference in the SB world based on whether you are married or single. I did it when I was married and got busted everytime. LOL. Now I. M single so it's totally different.
Rockhard 441
04-08-13, 16:32
I got my teen dream the first day she hit the site. A tactic I strongly endorse.Holy fucking Christ! She is absolutely GORGEOUS! Can't wait to hear all about your time with her.
HollywoodGuy
04-08-13, 16:43
Holy fucking Christ! She is absolutely GORGEOUS! Can't wait to hear all about your time with her.She is young, inexperienced and eager to learn. So I ain't going to lie, she needs some time to get comfortable and pick up her skills. But she is physically quite responsive and very loving. Seeing her a few times a week. Averaging less than $ per date including all food, makeup, allowance, etc. she is 5'5' and 102 lbs
Hollywood, How do you know it is the first day they hit the site?
Revvo
PartyTimeGuy
04-08-13, 19:45
She is young, inexperienced and eager to learn. So I ain't going to lie, she needs some time to get comfortable and pick up her skills. But she is physically quite responsive and very loving. Seeing her a few times a week. Averaging less than $ per date including all food, makeup, allowance, etc. she is 5'5' and 102 lbsDude, you hit the SB lottery. It doesn't get any better than that to even find a young rookie SW. I like a gf experience and that is worth paying a premium to me. But it looks like you got all that and at a bargain rate.
HollywoodGuy
04-09-13, 03:26
Hollywood, How do you know it is the first day they hit the site?
RevvoThere are multiple ways. For one thing, everyone is assigned a member ID. Its at the bottom of every profile. Start checking the numbers of all the girls and it will become apparent to you very quickly how long they have been a member. Also you can search by new member in the drop down box. I check for new members everyday. Today its up to about 3, 754, 533. They add about 50, 000 new members a month. Just subtract from there to get an approximate start date.
Or after you hit search then go to the sort tab dropdown and hit "new member first"
HollywoodGuy
04-09-13, 03:29
Dude, you hit the SB lottery. It doesn't get any better than that to even find a young rookie SW. I like a gf experience and that is worth paying a premium to me. But it looks like you got all that and at a bargain rate.At this point. I am spoiled. But still looking. Just being highly selective. My hand is strong and it needs to be as I am soft hearted by nature. I hate suffering.
HollywoodGuy
04-09-13, 03:43
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2597622-miillii3333-riverside-California-SugarBaby
19. No digits. Must contact through the site. She is a utr/pro. And way too far from me. Riverside. Possibly managed.
HollywoodGuy
04-09-13, 04:06
If any good looking hung senior members live near victorville and can pop for $$ I may have a hottie for you. She is a friend in need, so no games please. She is a 8/9/10. Face / body / skills. Way utr. I can attest to her loving nature and naturally submissive desires, and she tastes like candy. Mixed tan skin. SB sensibilities. PM me.
Hornilius69
04-09-13, 09:21
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2597622-miillii3333-riverside-California-SugarBaby
19. No digits. Must contact through the site. She is a utr / pro. And way too far from me. Riverside. Possibly managed.She looks similar to one of the girl stands on 52nd and Western.
Seansunrise
04-09-13, 09:48
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2597622-miillii3333-riverside-California-SugarBaby
19. No digits. Must contact through the site. She is a utr / pro. And way too far from me. Riverside. Possibly managed.That pic and location is on at least one other profile.
HollywoodGuy
04-09-13, 15:32
She looks similar to one of the girl stands on 52nd and Western.That wouldn't surprise me. LOL. She was quite the txter and using words and phrases non pros never use
That wouldn't surprise me. LOL. She was quite the txter and using words and phrases non pros never useActually, I would not be surprised the trend towards mobile social media, the cost of smart phones coming down and pay as you go data plans, you eventually will be able to order a SW online as easily as you can any other product or service.
But statistics show that 97% of all products are still purchased in brick and mortar retail outlets. So let's not count out the SW just yet (LOL)!
HollywoodGuy
04-09-13, 21:14
Actually, I would not be surprised the trend towards mobile social media, the cost of smart phones coming down and pay as you go data plans, you eventually will be able to order a SW online as easily as you can any other product or service.
But statistics show that 97% of all products are still purchased in brick and mortar retail outlets. So let's not count out the SW just yet (LOL)!
ATTENTION! Commander on deck!But for internet buyers the number is now at 39% overall. Mobile optimization is the new hot button phrase in the industry. also sd4me mobile users may appear to be online when they are not due to a slight tech glitch. so if you try IM ing or wondering why they are not getting back to you asap it can be due to the fact that they are logged in and dont even know it
I got my teen dream the first day she hit the site. A tactic I strongly endorse.
240408Fuck. That girl is hot as hell dude, congrats!
HollywoodGuy
04-11-13, 18:06
Fuck. That girl is hot as hell dude, congrats!Opportunity + Preparedness = Good Luck
How much are you guys budgeting for non-sugar costs?
I have:
Motel: $65.
Gas: $5.
Food: $30.
$100 plus sugar. Those other expenses (especially motel) aren't cheap!
WNDE8.
This sport costs money. Ergo the name sugar daddy. Emphasis on the sugar. The benefits can be tremendous. But money has to be spent. When you get to a mastery level you can get your cost per visit down to $100 per. And your CPO down to less than $100 levels. But this takes a lot of experience and a huge amount of work.
And I already have a job and a family. I also sometimes just want to have some fun.
Be careful out there.
Revvo
Member #5570
04-12-13, 18:57
I got my teen dream the first day she hit the site. A tactic I strongly endorse.
240408What tactic is that?
SD4M doesn't indicate when the profile was created. Or are you working SA?
SD4M doesn't indicate when the profile was created.Ah, but it does. A closer read of the forum reveals the following:
There are multiple ways. For one thing, everyone is assigned a member I'd. Its at the bottom of every profile. Start checking the numbers of all the girls and it will become apparent to you very quickly how long they have been a member. Also you can search by new member in the drop down box. I check for new members everyday. Today its up to about 3, 754, 533. They add about 50, 000 new members a month. Just subtract from there to get an approximate start date.
Or after you hit search then go to the sort tab dropdown and hit "new member first"On SA they give the date the profile was put up. Either way, approach while they are new and set up an immediate meeting. It gives the girl the feeling they are successful and you the opportunity to her first SD. My very first ATF came off of SA. I offered her .5 she asked it she could have a little more. I negotiated against myself and said $ and she took it. And that was all she wrote. She is in the wind though. But we did $ overnights for the seven months we hung out. Sometimes when things were tight for her I gave her more. But total allowance was never more than $$$$ for a month for a average of a overnight a week. Total expenses were much higher. But that is why you have to keep the allowance low. Unless you just want to fuck anything over $ plus expenses is going to break the bank. The Commander is not a big baller. At lest when it comes to $. LOL.
Commander,
I am speaking for myself. I am older, not well-to-do either, and the only garden tool I have is an entrenching tool. There ain't nothin lavish about me.
All I have for income are some investments, Social Security, Marine Corps pension (thanks for paying your taxes guys, so I can get my retirement check every month.) and a part-time job as a marshal at a golf course, so I have to watch the pennies too. Maybe that's why I only do AMP's, BP and an occasional SW.
As John G. Pointed out, there is a lot of CYA when it comes to doing the Sugar Daddy stuff. I guess I don't have the patience for all that. I guess it's nice to have one 'special' honey to go to on a regular basis, but I like more variety and also the ability to hit it and get on to the next one.
Carry on,
DirtyTwo government pensions and free golf as a Marshall, your living the good life-
HollywoodGuy
04-13-13, 00:38
What tactic is that?
SD4M doesn't indicate when the profile was created. Or are you working SA?The tactic is to mail them the first day they join the site. And yes sd4me tells you that in 2 different ways. By membership # and by searching by newest members first
Dirty Old Guy
04-13-13, 09:20
Fun,
After I retired from the Corps, I missed yelling at Marines so I thought about where I could get paid, get LOTS of free golf and still get to yell at people. Golf course Marshal seemed to fit the bill.
Of course, I do not let all of the work (2-half days a week) and golf (5 days a week) interfere with finding pussy. I have my priorities straight! :D
Dirty
Two government pensions and free golf as a Marshall, your living the good life-
HollywoodGuy
04-13-13, 13:31
Fun,
After I retired from the Corps, I missed yelling at Marines so I thought about where I could get paid, get LOTS of free golf and still get to yell at people. Golf course Marshal seemed to fit the bill.
Of course, I do not let all of the work (2-half days a week) and golf (5 days a week) interfere with finding pussy. I have my priorities straight! .
DirtyEat, sleep, work, find pussy. Not necessarily in that order. Oh right and maybe golf. (who has time for that?). I guess 3 holes is enough for me.
Eat, sleep, work, find pussy. Not necessarily in that order. Oh right and maybe golf. (who has time for that?). I guess 3 holes is enough for me.Golf is like pussy- if you have a bad hole, just pick up your clubs and move on to the next hole.
HollywoodGuy
04-14-13, 19:50
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2603687-HONEYSOGOOD-857-east90-th--ca-SugarBaby
A provider that lists her address in her ad
Dirty Old Guy
04-14-13, 21:12
Fun,
Now if I could just figure out how play golf and fuck at the same time, life would truly be golden! (Maybe a new caddie? :D)
Dirty
Golf is like pussy- if you have a bad hole, just pick up your clubs and move on to the next hole.
Blak Casper
04-15-13, 01:18
Fun,
Now if I could just figure out how play golf and fuck at the same time, life would truly be golden! (Maybe a new caddie?.)
DirtyA few years ago there was a golf course in OC that had tents setup on the fairway of some holes where girls would service the players. I don't know how long they operated, I didn't hear about until they got busted and it made the news!
John G Smith
04-15-13, 05:19
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2603687-HONEYSOGOOD-857-east90-th--ca-SugarBaby
A provider that lists her address in her adHere's another one.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2603719-Nela24-Irvine-California-SugarBaby
A Pro who thought they were updating their Redbook ad. Haha. Here's the text:
Hello there,
My name is Monica and I'm new to Redbook.
If you are looking for an exceptional exquisite upscale, companion relaxing, clean and fun time. I'll be more than willing to accommodate you. I'm outgoing, addicting & I love excitement. I'm eager to meet you.
MATURE GENTLEMEN ONLY!
- 100% REAL PICS! (Cut my face out for privacy)
- FULL discretion & CONFIDENTIALITY is assured.
- MATURE MEN ONLY. NO BLOCKED CALLS.
CALL ME NOW.
Can't wait to meet you.
PartyTimeGuy
04-15-13, 07:48
Actually, I would not be surprised the trend towards mobile social media, the cost of smart phones coming down and pay as you go data plans, you eventually will be able to order a SW online as easily as you can any other product or service.
But statistics show that 97% of all products are still purchased in brick and mortar retail outlets. So let's not count out the SW just yet (LOL)!
ATTENTION! Commander on deck!I am not yet ordering my SBs on line but I have found dating sites to be an interesting way to find them. They haven't yet even thought about it so you are in un-jaded, unspoiled territory. Once they start advertising you are dealing with a pro if not at least a semi-pro. Developing your own is one way to go.
Dirty Old Guy
04-15-13, 08:02
Blak,
You've got a good memory. That was Hidden Valley in Norco, back in 2002.
They were going strong for a couple of months until (from what I heard) a woman in the Ladies Club caught on to what was going on and called the cops. The general manager, head pro (no pun intended) and the greenskeeper all got arrested and fired.
Gives a whole new meaning to,"The 19th Hole"! :D
Dirty
A few years ago there was a golf course in OC that had tents setup on the fairway of some holes where girls would service the players. I don't know how long they operated, I didn't hear about until they got busted and it made the news!
HollywoodGuy
04-16-13, 03:24
The tactic is to mail them the first day they join the site. And yes sd4me tells you that in 2 different ways. By membership # and by searching by newest members firstChatted up a MILF a few days ago. Her first day on SD4ME. She is a maybe 7/8 or better (face / body) white girl in her thirties. She has since suspended her profile. She doesn't want any cash. Just wine and dine and babysitter. Sounds reasonable. But it's going to cost me more than the usual $ for a play date. I got to laugh when the uninitiated civi daters exclaim in shock "you pay for pussy?".
I should tell me them "yeah, and for less then its costin you in your new ride just to impress" and then you still gotta wine and dine.
So much more stable just cutting to the chase. Because the ncost of chasing a MILF can be nore than just paying cash for a straight up SB
My regular "the little princess" is averaging just .7 a date and its a minimum 4 hour cuddle fest. And an overnite if I see her on the weekend.
HollywoodGuy
04-16-13, 03:33
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=gallery&mid=3487385.
Told her to ecpect calls from nice guy sugar daddies. $$. PM for digits. No flakes or lowballers. She is a friend in need. She is a 9 and even a 10 in the sack. But YMMV depending on chemistry. You wil have to drive to her and right now her time is open
I am not yet ordering my SBs on line but I have found dating sites to be an interesting way to find them. They haven't yet even thought about it so you are in un-jaded, unspoiled territory. Once they start advertising you are dealing with a pro if not at least a semi-pro. Developing your own is one way to go.Mr. PartyTimeGuy,
Any particular sites working out for you? I've often wondered about that. Tell us more my man!
SubCmdr out!
PartyTimeGuy
04-16-13, 08:00
Mr. PartyTimeGuy,
Any particular sites working out for you? I've often wondered about that. Tell us more my man!
SubCmdr out!I have had some success on Zoosk and Datehookup. You have to be very creative and persuasive. You might send out dozens of emails before one works. But it is worth finding a SB who is new to this and unspoiled. The SBs who advertise tend to be picky and demanding.
HollywoodGuy
04-16-13, 11:29
I am not yet ordering my SBs on line but I have found dating sites to be an interesting way to find them. They haven't yet even thought about it so you are in un-jaded, unspoiled territory. Once they start advertising you are dealing with a pro if not at least a semi-pro. Developing your own is one way to go.I like your idea. But with a 35 or 40 year age spread (in my case) I could see that being a lot of work. Please try to post a couple stories with age included
PartyTimeGuy
04-16-13, 14:28
I like your idea. But with a 35 or 40 year age spread (in my case) I could see that being a lot of work. Please try to post a couple stories with age includedI see your point and it can be a lot of work. It's tough enough on a regular dating site to get a female to respond for a regular date. Adding a large age spread and SB relationship in mind makes it more difficult. I am in my 40s so that makes it easier than if I was a lot older. It's a numbers game like anything worthwhile. You send a lot of email inquiries and get a few replies. I get one reply per 10 emails sent. That is enough SB potential for me even though I get bored with them very quickly no matter how good they are.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=gallery&mid=3487385.
Told her to ecpect calls from nice guy sugar daddies. $$. PM for digits. No flakes or lowballers. She is a friend in need. She is a 9 and even a 10 in the sack. But YMMV depending on chemistry. You wil have to drive to her and right now her time is openIf she was and my area and full GFE I would do her. But Victorville is a bit out of the way. Tell her to move to civilization. Must be at least a tank of gas.
HollywoodGuy
04-17-13, 02:50
If she was and my area and full GFE I would do her. But Victorville is a bit out of the way. Tell her to move to civilization. Must be at least a tank of gas.She is a full GFE. If she likes you. So YMMV
This is interesting PartyTimeGuy. Do you actually put in your offer letter that you are looking for an SB? Do you make a dollar offer with the amount? Or are you being real subtle?
On a side note. I have a couple of friends that are not that old. Low forties and not particularly good looking. They have good jobs, not wealthy at all. Good personalities not big time players by any means. But they are well mannered and can carry on a conversation. Good sense of humor. And they were on just the main dating sites like match. Com. And they were killing the pussy.
They both had so many that they were double booking them to come over to their house and fuck them. One in the morning and one in the evening, kind of thing. I could not believe it. And this is no bullshit. I know it for a fact. Some of the girls were just normal women. Some were pretty cute.
They attribute it to just having a personality and being normal. They say there is so much human garbage out there that women get a hold of a normal man. And I emphasize the word MAN. They are just dying to fuck them. And it actually became a competitive thing with some of the women. Because my buddies started to let them know that there were other women dating them.
And this cost a minimum. Per date. Women still want you to pay. And don't be cheap or creepy about it.
Kind of makes me regret being married even more. Wonder if I could have a profile. That shows that I am married and looking for a woman anyway. How many responses would I get?
Revvo
Hollywood. I am addressing you in particular on this one since you have been so successful with the really young ones.
What do you do to address the flaking issue? It seems that I get a lot of flakes no shows, flaky responses to emails and texts. I always try to give them time to respond. I also give them reminders when we are supposed to do a M&G. I never get mad at them or scold them. But still a lot of flakes.
What are some tips?
Anyone else I am all ears. If you guys have any suggestions.
Revvo
HollywoodGuy
04-18-13, 05:09
Kind of makes me regret being married even more. Wonder if I could have a profile. That shows that I am married and looking for a woman anyway. How many responses would I get?
RevvoYou would get a lot less normal girls and a lot mo low hanging fruit.
HollywoodGuy
04-18-13, 05:17
Hollywood. I am addressing you in particular on this one since you have been so successful with the really young ones.
What do you do to address the flaking issue? It seems that I get a lot of flakes no shows, flaky responses to emails and texts. I always try to give them time to respond. I also give them reminders when we are supposed to do a M&G. I never get mad at them or scold them. But still a lot of flakes.
What are some tips?
Anyone else I am all ears. If you guys have any suggestions.
RevvoFlaking is so rare for me I can't even comment. There must be something in your pre-qualifying that is lacking. A yes can easily mean a no when someone just wants you to go away. Sorry. Forget responses to emails and txts. Although even that seems a little weird. Don't sprinkle any pixie dust on your presentation. Be brutally honest and then make them repeat back to you with no uncertainty what they are agreeing to. This may seem harsh but until you get a feel for the nuances involved its a good place to start.
If you have to "talk them into something" which I do on occasion just for the hell of it you are going out on a limb and thats where the flaking begins. Look for a friendly handshake right from the top.
HollywoodGuy
04-18-13, 05:23
If she was and my area and full GFE I would do her. But Victorville is a bit out of the way. Tell her to move to civilization. Must be at least a tank of gas.Actually not a bad suggestion. Tell her $$ but you really got to pay. 4 for the gas. If she likes you who knows. But after hittin it over 200 times its time for me to move on.
PartyTimeGuy
04-18-13, 07:29
This is interesting PartyTimeGuy. Do you actually put in your offer letter that you are looking for an SB? Do you make a dollar offer with the amount? Or are you being real subtle?
On a side note. I have a couple of friends that are not that old. Low forties and not particularly good looking. They have good jobs, not wealthy at all. Good personalities not big time players by any means. But they are well mannered and can carry on a conversation. Good sense of humor. And they were on just the main dating sites like match. Com. And they were killing the pussy.
They both had so many that they were double booking them to come over to their house and fuck them. One in the morning and one in the evening, kind of thing. I could not believe it. And this is no bullshit. I know it for a fact. Some of the girls were just normal women. Some were pretty cute.
They attribute it to just having a personality and being normal. They say there is so much human garbage out there that women get a hold of a normal man. And I emphasize the word MAN. They are just dying to fuck them. And it actually became a competitive thing with some of the women. Because my buddies started to let them know that there were other women dating them.
And this cost a minimum. Per date. Women still want you to pay. And don't be cheap or creepy about it.
Kind of makes me regret being married even more. Wonder if I could have a profile. That shows that I am married and looking for a woman anyway. How many responses would I get?
RevvoI am very subtle about it when I first contact someone. I ask if they ever thought about having a Sugar Daddy and being spoiled like a sugar baby and if so would they like more details. The communication goes from there.
I totally agree with your friend's" experience. If you are single and younger than 50 and have a good personality you can attract just about all the pussy you want If I spend enough time in bars or clubs or even on the internet I can find pussy. I am not the most handsome guy on the planet and am packing a few extra pounds like most of us are but I have a decent personality. That is what you need most of all to attract women. They don't seem to be as hung up on looks as most of us males seem to be as long as you are not butt ugly. But just getting pussy is not the issue for me. I want something with no strings attached and much younger if possible but some mature females can be a lot of fun too. I was already married and I don't intend to do that again. I don't want anything serious. I don't even want anything with any type of emotional commitment. A SB relationship right up front communicates exactly what you want and the expectations are very clear. : you be nice to me and I will be nice to you and we get together occasionally for some fun and lead our separate lives without any drama.
John G Smith
04-18-13, 07:38
What do you do to address the flaking issue? It seems that I get a lot of flakes no shows, flaky responses to emails and texts. I always try to give them time to respond. I also give them reminders when we are supposed to do a M&G. I never get mad at them or scold them. But still a lot of flakes.
What are some tips?
Anyone else I am all ears. If you guys have any suggestions.
RevvoI specialize in the younger babies since I'm too close to the other older ones and they don't want me, LOL. But anyway, I've had a few flakes here and there, but not many at all. I agree with Hollywood, you might have a problem with your pre-qualification process. The younger and inexperienced babies are always going to be a little nervous. If it's just a M&G, then I don't try to push any FC expectations on them. I just act like a gentleman so I don't spook them. I do however make it clear before we meet that I'm looking for a physically intimate arrangement, so they at least know where it's going to lead on subsequent dates. But I keep the M&G light with no expectations.
When the first meet is directly at the FC (I'm actually pretty good at arranging this, maybe 30-40% of the time) , then I don't discuss any graphic details of what we might do. If we're going to the FC on the first date, then we both know what is going to happen. I don't need to be pushy or weird and ask if she's going to do XYZ. Maybe it's fine for a UTR, but that's the perfect way to come off as a creep with a SB.
Also I don't do sexting with the younger babies until after we've actually been in the FC. There's some debate about this, but in my experience, flirty texts are okay, but sexting will often make the girl nervous about doing those things in reality or she feels there's high expectations for both parties to live up to the fantasy. Plus most women like to at least have the allusion of choice and spontaneity even when it's not there. When a girl agrees to go to a hotel, part of her knows she's there's to fuck, but there's another part of her that tries to convince that she might just hang out and talk. It's a mental defensive mechanism for some girls to not feel like a **** or prostitute. So I would go light on the sex chat and fantasies until after the first FC visit. After you've banged her once, then have at it.
Finally, if communication in general is sparse, then there's a very high likelihood of flakiness. I mentioned this on another forum, but if a girl takes longer than 4 hours to respond to a fairly important text without a good excuse, then I pass on her. If she takes a half day to respond or ignores a lot of txt, then it's going to be a huge headache trying to arrange meets. I'm sure I'm missing out on some good SBs but since I'm also married with a tight schedule I just don't have the time for flakes.
Kind of makes me regret being married even more. Wonder if I could have a profile. That shows that I am married and looking for a woman anyway. How many responses would I get?
RevvoRevvo,
I am on the similar boat as you do. I was on some normal dating sites (in profile, saying single) before, and scored some nice gals. However, being married is tough since I can't take gals home. Normal gals questioned why we have to go to hotel. After giving some lame reasons, it usually ends up nowhere. So, I end up quitting the normal dating route. (Too much work and too much hazard!)
I did put "married" in my SDFM and SA profile, and did get some gals. But not as much as HollywoodGuy got. Probably due to San Diego area or myself.
I have a former SB who went from UTR to straight PRO. So, I am using my latitude and giving my fellow Sugar Daddy's first shot at the pussy. You can find her on BP. But then you don't know who you are looking for do you LOL.
AA. 24, HWP covered everything. CBJ, CFS, COF; She is near LAX; In town until Sunday.
PM for digits! Put Hen in subject line.
Subcmdr
P. S. This is not a trade. If you write me asking for details. You won't hear back from me. If I look at your posting history and it is wack. You won't hear back from me. If you can hook a brother up with some quality young 18 to 24 Asian or Latina pussy who does BBBJ it is appreciated. But not required.
HollywoodGuy
04-19-13, 17:37
The Wifey. 46. AA Spinner. Exclusive to me. She is calling me her husband and I am going to get her a wedding ring so everyone knows she is taken. Seeing her one day a week. May increase to two days a week.
The Girlfriend. 26. AA Spinner (but tall. 5'7"). Exclusive to me. Seeing her one day a week.
The Little Princess. 19. AA Spinner. Model Looks. Exclusive to me. She is calling me her boyfriend. Seeing her like 2 or 3 times a week.
The Live In. 22. Asian. Tiny. Non exclusive. She is still my good friend and we hookup when I am in need between regulars.
Fetish Girl. 26. Mexican. Spinner. Non exclusive. Slowly coming around. Hooked up a couple times but no intercourse yet. it has taken me a year for her to get over my multiple girl arrangements to where she is now willing to date me. Hope to see once a week
Stalker. 26. Armenian. Spinner. Model Looks. Exclusive. Says she will wait till every girl is gone and then marry me. LOL. Two minor hookups so far. it has taken me 9 months for her to get over my multiple girl arrangements to where she is now willing to date me. Hope to see once a week
I have cut the interviewing process way back as I now have a full schedule. But I am interviewing a very horny MILF 37 on Sunday. Only wants wine and dine no cash.
So yes I do have a spinner fetish. Gets me up every time. I was over budget this month and could easily handle all of them for 3k a month. Trying to get back to 2k a month. This has taken a lot of time, money and experimenting to get to this point. All girls are aware of each other. Some less happy than others but all sticking to me like glue.
Averaging slightly over $ a day per visit including everything except gas. Sorry no pics at this time. Will post later when I get the time
You are the man!
Maybe you should try to gather them all together to serve you at the same time! If you need a camera man, I volunteer myself! .
The Wifey. 46. AA Spinner. Exclusive to me. She is calling me her husband and I am going to get her a wedding ring so everyone knows she is taken. Seeing her one day a week. May increase to two days a week.
The Girlfriend. 26. AA Spinner (but tall. 5'7"). Exclusive to me. Seeing her one day a week.
The Little Princess. 19. AA Spinner. Model Looks. Exclusive to me. She is calling me her boyfriend. Seeing her like 2 or 3 times a week.
The Live In. 22. Asian. Tiny. Non exclusive. She is still my good friend and we hookup when I am in need between regulars.
Fetish Girl. 26. Mexican. Spinner. Non exclusive. Slowly coming around. Hooked up a couple times but no intercourse yet. It has taken me a year for her to get over my multiple girl arrangements to where she is now willing to date me. Hope to see once a week.
Stalker. 26. Armenian. Spinner. Model Looks. Exclusive. Says she will wait till every girl is gone and then marry me. LOL. Two minor hookups so far. It has taken me 9 months for her to get over my multiple girl arrangements to where she is now willing to date me. Hope to see once a week.
I have cut the interviewing process way back as I now have a full schedule. But I am interviewing a very horny MILF 37 on Sunday. Only wants wine and dine no cash.
So yes I do have a spinner fetish. Gets me up every time. I was over budget this month and could easily handle all of them for 3k a month. Trying to get back to 2k a month. This has taken a lot of time, money and experimenting to get to this point. All girls are aware of each other. Some less happy than others but all sticking to me like glue.
Averaging slightly over $ a day per visit including everything except gas. Sorry no pics at this time. Will post later when I get the time
HollywoodGuy
04-19-13, 19:10
You are the man!
Maybe you should try to gather them all together to serve you at the same time! If you need a camera man, I volunteer myself! .I never was much into the whole 3 some thing (did that in my younger years. First wife was bi). But I am going to have a 3 some with my live in and the fetish girl. I really like to focus on one girl at a time. Just not the same one. LOL. Like the old saying goes "A girl wants everything from one guy and a guy wants one thing from every girl"
PartyTimeGuy
04-20-13, 13:46
I never was much into the whole 3 some thing (did that in my younger years. First wife was bi). But I am going to have a 3 some with my live in and the fetish girl. I really like to focus on one girl at a time. Just not the same one. LOL. Like the old saying goes "A girl wants everything from one guy and a guy wants one thing from every girl"I would tend to agree with you about threesomes. I have trouble focusing my energies on one horny gal. Two tends to be an overload. However, there are exceptions to every rule. I had one SB tryst where she was nervous about it the first time and brought a friend. Both were young (19 and 20) and pretty and into one another. I will have to admit that was a lot of fun. I recently had a similar experience with a young black SB who wanted to bring her white gf. The black SB was chubby and the white gf was very thin. The many contrasts were interesting and fun. I have pics of the encounters and maybe I will get around to posting them one day. I tried a pic posting once with a prime SW pickup a year ago or so when I visited Hartford, CT and all I got was extreme flack from the local "big cahunas." The same thing was true when I tried to get a little local information on the strolls. The unkindness of a few in here seems to stifle the contributory urges of the many.
HollywoodGuy
04-20-13, 16:07
I would tend to agree with you about threesomes. I have trouble focusing my energies on one horny gal. Two tends to be an overload. However, there are exceptions to every rule. I had one SB tryst where she was nervous about it the first time and brought a friend. Both were young (19 and 20) and pretty and into one another. I will have to admit that was a lot of fun. I recently had a similar experience with a young black SB who wanted to bring her white gf. The black SB was chubby and the white gf was very thin. The many contrasts were interesting and fun. I have pics of the encounters and maybe I will get around to posting them one day. I tried a pic posting once with a prime SW pickup a year ago or so when I visited Hartford, CT and all I got was extreme flack from the local "big cahunas." The same thing was true when I tried to get a little local information on the strolls. The unkindness of a few in here seems to stifle the contributory urges of the many.Post without fear. Also on the 3 somes. If you pay too much attention to one girl. The other one seems to get a little jealous. I am not into that kind of drama.
Member #5570
04-20-13, 16:48
I would tend to agree with you about threesomes. I have trouble focusing my energies on one horny gal. Two tends to be an overload. However, there are exceptions to every rule. I had one SB tryst where she was nervous about it the first time and brought a friend. Both were young (19 and 20) and pretty and into one another. I will have to admit that was a lot of fun. I recently had a similar experience with a young black SB who wanted to bring her white gf. The black SB was chubby and the white gf was very thin. The many contrasts were interesting and fun. I have pics of the encounters and maybe I will get around to posting them one day. I tried a pic posting once with a prime SW pickup a year ago or so when I visited Hartford, CT and all I got was extreme flack from the local "big cahunas." The same thing was true when I tried to get a little local information on the strolls. The unkindness of a few in here seems to stifle the contributory urges of the many.LOL. You were in my backyard?
Yeah, I posted pic of an AA spinner I picked up on CL and got crucified because I didn't share digits. It's tough in my neighborhood man.
It has been quite a week. I am going to have to slow down my pace. But I must admit overall I feel energized.
So the week started off with a shock.
REVVOATF: This was bad. Real bad. Things had been going very well. And all of a sudden she up and quit on me. This was a shock! Things were going so well. It was almost erie how well. We really were very well matched. She is 39 knew her way around and did not cause any problems. She was sexy beautiful and fun, and exciting. She had a life and wanted to live it. But she did have a child and wanted to meet on weekends when she could drop her child off at her moms. I could only meet on weekdays when I was in her town. This caused a hardship for her. And she told me she could not do it anymore. She is hurting for money and was giving up the allowance I was giving her. She has either found another SD or she is really comiitted to doing what she wants. I have repeatedly checked her for lies and have found not one inconsistency. This really sucks. I am suprised at how much this affected me. But I must say she has way outdistanced all other babies I have been with. The only other alternative is REVVOSB1, which my ATF beats her but it is closer. Oh well I am getting over it. But it aint fun.
REVVOSB1: My little fortune cookie is going strong. Very different person. Mellow and quite. But quite passionate in the FC. She is willing to do anything I can think of so far. No drama. No bullshit. She is very accommodating and affectionate. She is very cool. But I will say she is not at exciting and fun as my ATF was. She is absolutely beautiful. Dresses real classy and never wears underwear when she is wearing a skirt or dress. Its always nice to be able to sneak a little feel under her dress when we are out. So sexy.
REVVOPOT1: Very nice latina 20YO 8 head. 7 body, and 8 personality. Sweet as can be. Very willing to follow my lead. She is self sufficient and is going to start college in a few weeks. She is also getting her own apartment so she will be able to host soon. We have not visited the FC yet. But we are close. She was very willing. We did some serious making out but no FC. When we left she texted me 10 minutes later wanting to talk about planning the big day. These young babies you have to really go slow. But since I was cool about everything and she was not feeling any pressure, she came around. So we are set for next week.
REVVOPOT2: This was a big bust. Chick was a solid 10 but had a bad case of GPS, even after she agreed to $$. She even wanted to charge me to meet. So we ended it.
REVVOPOT3: This one was a very strong college student Eastern Indian. 23YO 9 head. 9 body. 4 attitude. She had an even worse case of GPS. If you do not get this money thing out of the way up front. It can really bite you wasting your time. So she is out of here. We had a long text exchange about value and the sugar bowl. Here is a little of it:
Aghamora: I've decided I would only meet up with you for 500 bucks 8:37 PM.
Me: Is that 500 just to meet? 8:37 PM.
Aghamora: Ok I am just going to be honest with you. I am attracted to you, I am interested, but I am also looking for money for school. 8:41 PM.
Me: Honesty is good. Lets be honest. I am attracted to you and I am very interested. And this is a sugar daddy dating site so money is a part of it. 8:44 PM.
Me:. So you want 500 just to meet? 8:45 PM.
Aghamora: Yes 8:47 PM.
Me: Well sweetie I cannot do that. And I do want to meet you. But I never pay someone to meet them. You are very attractive and interesting and I can help you out but. 8:50 PM.
Me:. I have met many beautiful women on here and on my own and I never paid anyone money to meet. 8:50 PM.
Me: Ok sweetie. It was very nice meeting you. I enjoyed chatting with you. Please let me know if you change your mind. .9:32 PM.
Aghamora: sorry I am not changing my mind. I have only been with 2 guys my whole life, I'm foreign, I'm sexy and this is the first time I'm doing this. I am definitely not changing my mind. If you change your mind let me know. 3:33 PM.
Me: Sweetie. I would never ask you to do something you do not want to do. But I think you should know a few things. I have had several sugar babies they were all very beautiful and some went on to be long term. 4:18 PM.
Me:. I have friends that have dated many SB's. And I have never paid for someone to just meet me. And the most I have ever paid for a visit is 200 and that is for everything. Yes your are cute and foreign. But for example. 4:20 PM.
Me:. My last SB was Asian, beautiful and she was 25 and had an Ivy League education. And we adored each other and truly had a great time together. Good luck with your search. .4:22 PM.
Aghamora: goodluck to you too. It was great talking to you 5:00 PM.
Aghamora: and I am aerospace engineering major by the way. 200 for everything that is crazyy and cheap, but I guess we are just not for each other. 5:49 PM.
Me: Aghamora. I understnad how you feel. This is a market just like anything else. You are educated so you understand there is supply and there is demand. For every man on the SD site there are 20 women. 6:12 PM.
REVVOPOT4: This is a sweet little 20 yo white baby 8 head. 8 body. 7 attitude. At first had a little attitude but she came around kind of quickly. She is very responsive and sexy. We are still working on schedules but not been able to meet yet. But she seems very willing and wants to meet. Works as a server at night. So it is hard to find a good time to meet.
Much more to write not much time right now. Will come up with an update soon.
Be careful out there,
Revvo
HollywoodGuy
04-21-13, 01:08
It has been quite a week. I am going to have to slow down my pace. But I must admit overall I feel energized.
So the week started off with a shock.
REVVOATF: This was bad. Real bad. Things had been going very well. And all of a sudden she up and quit on me. This was a shock! Things were going so well. It was almost erie how well. We really were very well matched. She is 39 knew her way around and did not cause any problems. She was sexy beautiful and fun, and exciting. She had a life and wanted to live it. But she did have a child and wanted to meet on weekends when she could drop her child off at her moms. I could only meet on weekdays when I was in her town. This caused a hardship for her. And she told me she could not do it anymore. She is hurting for money and was giving up the allowance I was giving her. She has either found another SD or she is really comiitted to doing what she wants. I have repeatedly checked her for lies and have found not one inconsistency. This really sucks. I am suprised at how much this affected me. But I must say she has way outdistanced all other babies I have been with. The only other alternative is REVVOSB1, which my ATF beats her but it is closer. Oh well I am getting over it. But it aint fun.
REVVOSB1: My little fortune cookie is going strong. Very different person. Mellow and quite. But quite passionate in the FC. She is willing to do anything I can think of so far. No drama. No bullshit. She is very accommodating and affectionate. She is very cool. But I will say she is not at exciting and fun as my ATF was. She is absolutely beautiful. Dresses real classy and never wears underwear when she is wearing a skirt or dress. Its always nice to be able to sneak a little feel under her dress when we are out. So sexy.
REVVOPOT1: Very nice latina 20YO 8 head. 7 body, and 8 personality. Sweet as can be. Very willing to follow my lead. She is self sufficient and is going to start college in a few weeks. She is also getting her own apartment so she will be able to host soon. We have not visited the FC yet. But we are close. She was very willing. We did some serious making out but no FC. When we left she texted me 10 minutes later wanting to talk about planning the big day. These young babies you have to really go slow. But since I was cool about everything and she was not feeling any pressure, she came around. So we are set for next week.
REVVOPOT2: This was a big bust. Chick was a solid 10 but had a bad case of GPS, even after she agreed to $$. She even wanted to charge me to meet. So we ended it.
REVVOPOT3: This one was a very strong college student Eastern Indian. 23YO 9 head. 9 body. 4 attitude. She had an even worse case of GPS. If you do not get this money thing out of the way up front. It can really bite you wasting your time. So she is out of here. We had a long text exchange about value and the sugar bowl. Here is a little of it:
Aghamora: I've decided I would only meet up with you for 500 bucks 8:37 PM.
Me: Is that 500 just to meet? 8:37 PM.
Aghamora: Ok I am just going to be honest with you. I am attracted to you, I am interested, but I am also looking for money for school. 8:41 PM.
Me: Honesty is good. Lets be honest. I am attracted to you and I am very interested. And this is a sugar daddy dating site so money is a part of it. 8:44 PM.
Me:. So you want 500 just to meet? 8:45 PM.
Aghamora: Yes 8:47 PM.
Me: Well sweetie I cannot do that. And I do want to meet you. But I never pay someone to meet them. You are very attractive and interesting and I can help you out but. 8:50 PM.
Me:. I have met many beautiful women on here and on my own and I never paid anyone money to meet. 8:50 PM.
Me: Ok sweetie. It was very nice meeting you. I enjoyed chatting with you. Please let me know if you change your mind. .9:32 PM.
Aghamora: sorry I am not changing my mind. I have only been with 2 guys my whole life, I'm foreign, I'm sexy and this is the first time I'm doing this. I am definitely not changing my mind. If you change your mind let me know. 3:33 PM.
Me: Sweetie. I would never ask you to do something you do not want to do. But I think you should know a few things. I have had several sugar babies they were all very beautiful and some went on to be long term. 4:18 PM.
Me:. I have friends that have dated many SB's. And I have never paid for someone to just meet me. And the most I have ever paid for a visit is 200 and that is for everything. Yes your are cute and foreign. But for example. 4:20 PM.
Me:. My last SB was Asian, beautiful and she was 25 and had an Ivy League education. And we adored each other and truly had a great time together. Good luck with your search. .4:22 PM.
Aghamora: goodluck to you too. It was great talking to you 5:00 PM.
Aghamora: and I am aerospace engineering major by the way. 200 for everything that is crazyy and cheap, but I guess we are just not for each other. 5:49 PM.
Me: Aghamora. I understnad how you feel. This is a market just like anything else. You are educated so you understand there is supply and there is demand. For every man on the SD site there are 20 women. 6:12 PM.
REVVOPOT4: This is a sweet little 20 yo white baby 8 head. 8 body. 7 attitude. At first had a little attitude but she came around kind of quickly. She is very responsive and sexy. We are still working on schedules but not been able to meet yet. But she seems very willing and wants to meet. Works as a server at night. So it is hard to find a good time to meet.
Much more to write not much time right now. Will come up with an update soon.
Be careful out there,
RevvoAt this point I really believe that the more they want the more worthless they are. Obviously the donation is always appreciated. But when you know they got their shovel out. Then there is no real intimacy. And at least for me that's why I do sugar over all the other options. I am one needy mf. LOL.
HollywoodGuy
04-21-13, 01:22
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/photos/25/SugarBaby-YBH3225625_6.jpg
Anyone ever tap this. She has been a regular on sd4me for at least a year or two. She is a pro, whatever, really nice sexy look for a white girl. LOL.
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John G Smith
04-21-13, 03:07
If a girl asks for 500 per meet and she's a 10/10, then I just move on. She plays in a different division than me and I can't compete. Sometimes you can grab a 10/10 girl if she's fresh on the market and you're the first person she bonds with. But if she's already quoting 400-500 then she's already out of reach. Either some super rich guy will pay that or some not-so rich guy will go broke trying to pay that. The 10/10 girls (particularly whites and asians) are the very small minority of girls that can actually get the big allowances on those sites.
Now if a 8/8 girl or below is asking for 500 per meet, then I might spend a little time trying to cure her GPS. After all, she most likely will not get that amount and she's mostly living in a fantasy world. This is the gist of the story I tell girls to cure their GPS:
"I'm sorry, I do not like to start out at 500 per meet. I want to make sure we have some physical and personality chemistry first before I commit to that amount. I've had a bad experience where I paid a girl 500 per meet but she wasn't really into me. Since the money was so good for her, she forced a smile essentially and arrangement lasted longer than it should have. We both felt dirty at the end. It was like seeing a high-priced escort, not a sugar baby. So it's important for me to establish some chemistry. If we start out at X amount per meet, it's enough to help you but if you don't like me, you can walk away without feeling the money will tie you down."
If you're going to use this please change the words around. And this works on quite a few girls, at least the ones who have real sugar baby potential. Real sugar babies don't want to feel locked in to sleeping with someone who they find disgusting. And they like the idea of establishing chemistry. So if she has some attraction with you, this spiel I wrote will usually help bring her allowance expectations down and keep things progressing. If she's not attracted to you, then she'll probably just insist on her high rate and move on.
So if you encounter a 8/8 girl or below, you might be able to break their GPS depending. But the top tier girls aren't even worth the effort. And as Hollywood pointed out, unless you're a high-roller, they'll just act like they're doing you a favor.
HollywoodGuy
04-21-13, 15:15
If a girl asks for 500 per meet and she's a 10/10, then I just move on. She plays in a different division than me and I can't compete. Sometimes you can grab a 10/10 girl if she's fresh on the market and you're the first person she bonds with. But if she's already quoting 400-500 then she's already out of reach. Either some super rich guy will pay that or some not-so rich guy will go broke trying to pay that. The 10/10 girls (particularly whites and asians) are the very small minority of girls that can actually get the big allowances on those sites.
Now if a 8/8 girl or below is asking for 500 per meet, then I might spend a little time trying to cure her GPS. After all, she most likely will not get that amount and she's mostly living in a fantasy world. This is the gist of the story I tell girls to cure their GPS:
"I'm sorry, I do not like to start out at 500 per meet. I want to make sure we have some physical and personality chemistry first before I commit to that amount. I've had a bad experience where I paid a girl 500 per meet but she wasn't really into me. Since the money was so good for her, she forced a smile essentially and arrangement lasted longer than it should have. We both felt dirty at the end. It was like seeing a high-priced escort, not a sugar baby. So it's important for me to establish some chemistry. If we start out at X amount per meet, it's enough to help you but if you don't like me, you can walk away without feeling the money will tie you down."
If you're going to use this please change the words around. And this works on quite a few girls, at least the ones who have real sugar baby potential. Real sugar babies don't want to feel locked in to sleeping with someone who they find disgusting. And they like the idea of establishing chemistry. So if she has some attraction with you, this spiel I wrote will usually help bring her allowance expectations down and keep things progressing. If she's not attracted to you, then she'll probably just insist on her high rate and move on.
So if you encounter a 8/8 girl or below, you might be able to break their GPS depending. But the top tier girls aren't even worth the effort. And as Hollywood pointed out, unless you're a high-roller, they'll just act like they're doing you a favor.Good Advise. And the reverse of that is guys offering to pay more to a girl that isn't really into them hoping it will wear them down. I have seen this and done it myself and it doesn't work. An X SB of mine (8/9/10, face/body/skills)was getting $500 a date from a very nice guy and decent looking. But she just wasn't into him and risked poverty over the opportunity to live a beachfront lifestyle with a new car as well.
PartyTimeGuy
04-22-13, 06:54
Post without fear. Also on the 3 somes. If you pay too much attention to one girl. The other one seems to get a little jealous. I am not into that kind of drama.I hear you about posting without fear. I am sure with all the posting you do that you get your share of negative attention. It's the ugly side of human nature to attack someone who has what you want and which they don't or can't have. I will dig through my pics and see if I can find some of the SB threesomes I have enjoyed. After all a picture truly is worth a thousand words.
About threesomes: I am not so worried about one SB in a threesome getting jealous of the attention paid to her buddy. Especially if they suggested it in the first place which is what happened the two times I experienced a SB threesome. Besides that the customer is always right and SBs should know that better than anyone. My issue with threesomes is maybe just about me. I have trouble multi-tasking. LOL
PartyTimeGuy
04-22-13, 07:14
LOL. You were in my backyard?
Yeah, I posted pic of an AA spinner I picked up on CL and got crucified because I didn't share digits. It's tough in my neighborhood man.I travel a lot. SWs were my primary go-to for stress relief before I discovered the higher satisfaction of the GFE with SBs. Even so I have usually been picky about SWs but sometimes you take what's on the shelf to scratch your itch. And sometimes you find a gem where you least expect it. That's what happened to me in your back yard last Spring. I took a bunch of photos of that very willing hot spinner. I only posted two of them but the negative backwash wasn't worth it. I guess you need to look past all the crap you might attract because every neighborhood in here is tough and has its share of bullies.
PartyTimeGuy
04-22-13, 07:28
Good Advise. And the reverse of that is guys offering to pay more to a girl that isn't really into them hoping it will wear them down. I have seen this and done it myself and it doesn't work. An X SB of mine (8/9/10, face/body/skills)was getting $500 a date from a very nice guy and decent looking. But she just wasn't into him and risked poverty over the opportunity to live a beachfront lifestyle with a new car as well.Many SBs do this for more than just the money IMHO. If it was only about the money then even hunchbacks with oozing open sores could get laid if they were rich. Women are definitely wired differently than we are. And some of them are only about the money. If you play the psychology of this right and avoid the jaded money grabbers you can get primo GFE tail at an affordable cost.
HollywoodGuy
04-22-13, 22:20
As of today I will not be interviewing anyone new unless a 10/10/10 (face/body/skills) or close pops into my lap. I now have 6 SB regulars (4 are exclusive). They all have personally met each other or at least all seen the pictures of each other. The interesting part is the dynamic between the girls. Some like each other and some don't. Some don't care one way or another and some want to do the others or watch me do them.
And the constant attention I get keeps the fire burning hotter. I do have to pace myself but am surprised ay my ability to man up on every date. Even if I didn't (which doesn't bother me) it hasn't happened yet. There is definitely a synergy that has been created through these arrangements that I wasn't expecting.
Well, I met my first SB this week. She's a cute little MILF. Very quiet spoken which I guessed rightly would translate to passion behind closed doors. We didn't have a whole lot of time but even so jumped right into oral and she has incredible skills. Of course, success with one makes me want more and usually leads to more success confidence being an aphrodisiac for many women. I tend to be attracting older women, but they don't seem like pros. The older ones have the skills and I am looking forward to having some young ones on the list as well for obvious reasons. Thanks to Hollywood guy for his guidance.
HollywoodGuy
04-23-13, 18:41
Well, I met my first SB this week. She's a cute little MILF. Very quiet spoken which I guessed rightly would translate to passion behind closed doors. We didn't have a whole lot of time but even so jumped right into oral and she has incredible skills. Of course, success with one makes me want more and usually leads to more success confidence being an aphrodisiac for many women. I tend to be attracting older women, but they don't seem like pros. The older ones have the skills and I am looking forward to having some young ones on the list as well for obvious reasons. Thanks to Hollywood guy for his guidance.My hottest girl in bed is a 46 year old MILF.
As of today I will not be interviewing anyone new unless a 10/10/10 (face / body / skills) or close pops into my lap. I now have 6 SB regulars (4 are exclusive). They all have personally met each other or at least all seen the pictures of each other. The interesting part is the dynamic between the girls. Some like each other and some don't. Some don't care one way or another and some want to do the others or watch me do them.
And the constant attention I get keeps the fire burning hotter. I do have to pace myself but am surprised ay my ability to man up on every date. Even if I didn't (which doesn't bother me) it hasn't happened yet. There is definitely a synergy that has been created through these arrangements that I wasn't expecting.Seems like you've created your own personal Bachelor competition. Want to make a reality TV show? The title is obvious. SugarBabies
HollywoodGuy
04-24-13, 12:12
Seems like you've created your own personal Bachelor competition. Want to make a reality TV show? The title is obvious. SugarBabiesI am always telling them there is no competition (and that they are all uniquely special to me). That I need each one of them for a different reason. And that I love them. But it doesn't stop them from asking to move in or to marry them. My girls are managed by me but they only have one client and that's me. Well 4 of them anyway. The others are freelancers.
The main thing is everyone is having fun and the drama level is really low.
HollywoodGuy
04-24-13, 12:44
http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/henry-t-mudd/recent/2
I remember reading about this guy in the local paper and thinking. This is the way to do it. This was about 20 years ago and the seed was planted.
He had 7 SB's that he had ensconced each in their own home and saw each one once a week. He is my role model.
Buster Hymen
04-25-13, 17:35
Don't know if you guys saw this one, almost too weird to be true. SB gets a loser Mexican boyfriend, the two of them get together and duck tape up and rob her SD in the apartment her provided her.
Perhaps the funniest part of the story is that they caught her at the nearby White Castle buying sliders. Woo Hoo!
Guys, don't get your picture in the local paper when your SB goes bad!
In the Indianapolis section of USASG, the guys looked up her FB, which is totally open and interesting to read, check it out. On her FB profile, she talks about getting out of jail and never going back! She is a good christian girl now! Whoops! Spoke too soon, she's going away for awhile.
BTW, the SD is totally delusional, apparently in love with her.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20130424/NEWS02/304240102?odyssey=mod|mostcom
Blak Casper
04-25-13, 19:25
Don't know if you guys saw this one, almost too weird to be true. SB gets a loser Mexican boyfriend, the two of them get together and duck tape up and rob her SD in the apartment her provided her.
Perhaps the funniest part of the story is that they caught her at the nearby White Castle buying sliders. Woo Hoo!
Guys, don't get your picture in the local paper when your SB goes bad!
In the Indianapolis section of USASG, the guys looked up her FB, which is totally open and interesting to read, check it out. On her FB profile, she talks about getting out of jail and never going back! She is a good christian girl now! Whoops! Spoke too soon, she's going away for awhile.
BTW, the SD is totally delusional, apparently in love with her.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20130424/NEWS02/304240102?odyssey=mod
|mostcomHis name was "Coonrod"! That's almost as bad if the girls name was oh "Pussy Galore" or Patty Poontang, hahhaha
Blak Casper
04-25-13, 19:43
A little common sense to ferret out the scammers is a must! I met a girl the other day from AM who said she was an USC student.
What raised my alarm bells was when I asked her if she drove and she said "you can come over her" I asked where is here,
She said 55th and Western!
Now that area doesn't make me feel warm and tingly. She was ready to give up the goods though, come and get it. She said she need 2 books. 1 was $80, the other was $120.
As she seemed to have more professional ways, than I wanted I passed. She then texts me to say she needed $65 by 7:30pm (it was 7:15pm) to pay her rent or she would be evicted as she had been robbed.
She must have been scamming others on AM as they erased her email to me and restored the credits back to my account.
On the bright side the next day a girl I 1st talked to on SD4ME 3 months ago, called after I saw her on POF (plenty of fish,) and wanted to come over for a drink. As she works I let her come by for a drink, after half the drink she wanted a repeat of the hug she gave me coming in, and while that was going on she started grabbing my dick and gave some free head.
No money was discussed.
On the down side, she texts me 2 days later saying she needed gas money, as I'm not intending to see her again (she didn't match her photo recent enough) I have not offered her the gas money.
HollywoodGuy
04-25-13, 21:21
A little common sense to ferret out the scammers is a must! I met a girl the other day from AM who said she was an USC student.
What raised my alarm bells was when I asked her if she drove and she said "you can come over her" I asked where is here,
She said 55th and Western!
Now that area doesn't make me feel warm and tingly. She was ready to give up the goods though, come and get it. She said she need 2 books. 1 was $80, the other was $120.
As she seemed to have more professional ways, than I wanted I passed. She then texts me to say she needed $65 by 7:30pm (it was 7:15pm) to pay her rent or she would be evicted as she had been robbed.
She must have been scamming others on AM as they erased her email to me and restored the credits back to my account.
On the bright side the next day a girl I 1st talked to on SD4ME 3 months ago, called after I saw her on POF (plenty of fish,) and wanted to come over for a drink. As she works I let her come by for a drink, after half the drink she wanted a repeat of the hug she gave me coming in, and while that was going on she started grabbing my dick and gave some free head.
No money was discussed.
On the down side, she texts me 2 days later saying she needed gas money, as I'm not intending to see her again (she didn't match her photo recent enough) I have not offered her the gas money.Poor girl. The SD4ME one. Nothin bad on you. She was just struggling and not cute enough to pull it off.
HollywoodGuy
04-26-13, 14:33
For everyone that PM'd me for this girls digits. Her phone is now turned on.
HollywoodGuy
05-02-13, 15:09
As my dance card is now full I am only hitting up 18 to 20 year olds. Figuring this will cut down on my responses / expenses. But they keep on coming. I will report any successful interviews.
As my dance card is now full I am only hitting up 18 to 20 year olds. Figuring this will cut down on my responses / expenses. But they keep on coming. I will report any successful interviews.Very nice sir. I wish to one day have your success. What in your experience is the main difference between SD4ME and SA? I've just started and have a few promising interviews from SA coming up. I read on here $100 per visit is standard but they all seem to be thinking $200-$500 range, what do you give? I'm about 20 minutes east of LA if that makes a difference.
John G Smith
05-02-13, 18:04
as my dance card is now full i am only hitting up 18 to 20 year olds. figuring this will cut down on my responses / expenses. but they keep on coming. i will report any successful interviews.i pretty much now only exclusively date 18-20 year-olds. if you can find a 18. 20 year-old who likes older men or has daddy issues, they'll treat you like a king while at the same time not have all the baggage and money expectations of the older girls.
if i think back, just about every single young sb i had a good experience with, did not have a father in their life. divorced, separated, estranged, neglected and etc. it's one of the cases where the stereotypes are true. and the times i dealt with sbs who only cared about the money and lifestyle, usually came from dual parent households and had a stable upbringing. in my experience, those girls usually just wanted to be arm candy or had gps. even if i managed an agreeable arrangement, they were never really that into me.
i think i mentioned this before, but i've basically been developing a psyche profile of girls who are prime sb candidates. the sd sites are great, but my hope is that i can pluck out a fresh sb from the general population. girls who don't even know about sugar daddy sites, but are receptive to the concept. these girls will be much easier to hold on to because they're technically not in the market for a bunch of other sds to hit them up.
the young ones do have their downsides though. conversations can sometimes be difficult if she's shy and there's no common point. many of them have limited resources, so you'll often have to pick them up and host yourself. young sbs tend to be more open to bb activities with no questions asked, this could be a good or bad thing depending on your perspective. also make sure you do your due diligence and confirm she's over 18. some **** girls sign up on those sd sites, so you have to be careful. unlike the pro scene, the sugar world is pretty much worry free from le for men. but you could find yourself in huge trouble if you get caught essentially giving money for sex to an **** girl.
young sbs are great as long as you're careful. they are also not always adept yet at being discreet, so be careful what you say over text or email. you don't want a parent or older sibling coming after you.
HollywoodGuy
05-02-13, 22:51
if you can find a 18. 20 year-old who likes older men or has daddy issues, they'll treat you like a king while at the same time not have all the baggage and money expectations of the older girls.
(somewhat agree)
if i think back, just about every single young sb i had a good experience with, did not have a father in their life. divorced, separated, estranged, neglected and etc. it's one of the cases where the stereotypes are true. and the times i dealt with sbs who only cared about the money and lifestyle, usually came from dual parent households and had a stable upbringing. in my experience, those girls usually just wanted to be arm candy or had gps. even if i managed an agreeable arrangement, they were never really that into me.
(disagree, for me it's been all over the map) i think i am the one with daddy issues. lol. he never provided and i have been making up for it ever since)
i think i mentioned this before, but i've basically been developing a psyche profile of girls who are prime sb candidates. the sd sites are great, but my hope is that i can pluck out a fresh sb from the general population. girls who don't even know about sugar daddy sites, but are receptive to the concept. these girls will be much easier to hold on to because they're technically not in the market for a bunch of other sds to hit them up.
(you mean go out in public and humiliate myself, lol. i am more of an internet geek)
the young ones do have their downsides though. conversations can sometimes be difficult if she's shy and there's no common point.
(very important, i always find one common interest before the first interview, super important)
many of them have limited resources, so you'll often have to pick them up and host yourself. (single here so no problem) young sbs tend to be more open to bb activities (i only go bb and exclusive)
with no questions asked, this could be a good or bad thing depending on your perspective. also make sure you do your due diligence and confirm she's over 18.
(been busted once and extorted another time. so definitely)
some **** girls sign up on those sd sites, so you have to be careful. unlike the pro scene, the sugar world is pretty much worry free from le for men. but you could find yourself in huge trouble if you get caught essentially giving money for sex to an **** girl.
(totally agree here)
Her header: I love anal.
TGTBT?
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2622659-SillyBabyEmma-Firestone-Park-California-SugarBaby
HollywoodGuy
05-06-13, 01:36
Her header: I love anal.
TGTBT?
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2622659-SillyBabyEmma-Firestone-Park-California-SugarBabyLooks totally fake. But it can"t hurt to say hi
Looks totally fake. But it can"t hurt to say hiAbsolutely fake. That's Maria Ozawa's photo they stole.
It has been quite a week. I am going to have to slow down my pace. But I must admit overall I feel energized.
So the week started off with a shock.Thank you for the enlightening! I was curious to how some of the gentlemen here go about responding to some of the more ridiculous requests.
Thanks,
Oginla
HollywoodGuy
05-08-13, 03:33
REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO MEETING A TRUE POT SB.
Prefer AA or mixed.
Prefer 18 to 26.
Must be totally shaved.
Must be submissive to start. But will occasionally switch for the right girl later.
Must live within a 45 minutes drive.
Max height 5'5", maybe 5'7' for a real hottie.
Max weight 115.
Must have some similar sexual interests.
Must have a sweet personality and be intelligent.
Must be willing to meet for $
REQUIREMENTS FOR A 2ND or 3RD DATE FOR A TRUE POT SB.
Must be an awesome kisser.
Pussy should taste like candy, or clean, or just a hint of that sexy smell that only a black girl has.
Prefer multi orgasmic.
Must think I am funny.
Must think I am attractive and tell me.
Must have a willingness to improve her bedroom skills to my specific needs and desires.
Must understand I date multiple girls.
Must be ok with my roommate being home.
REQUIREMENTS TO BE ON ALLOWANCE.
Aside from the above.
Generally the quiet type.
Perfect hair, nails, makeup and attire which have to be approved by me.
Very affectionate and touchy.
The word no is used rarely.
Must love cuddling forever.
Must be multi orgasmic and looking to increase on that through regular training.
Must think I am handsome and sexy and tell me that constantly.
Must tell me they love me over and over.
Must be exclusive to me.
Have some kind of a life, school, job.
Be willing to allow for my time with others.
No jealousy or bad mouthing of my other girls. EVER.
Must treat my roommate with respect at all times. They don't have to be friends but sometimes they are.
Mostly the stay at home types. I don't go to clubs or bars. That's what her girls are for.
They also never have to cook, clean or do my laundry. In fact I won't let them.
REQUIREMENTS FOR A BOOTY CALL GIRL.
Any race.
Any age.
Max weight 135.
Same height requirement.
Must be totally shaved.
Must live within a 45 minutes drive.
Must have some similar sexual interests.
Must be willing to meet for $
Must be willing to get me off one way or another.
Rarely repeat booty call girls. But sometimes I do.
They can be a flat out pro. No problem.
Ghetto no problem.
Nando 1 no problem.
On their period. That's a problem.
FINAL THOUGHTS.
These are only my needs not yours.
I am single and have some flexibility and no need to be discreet.
I am sure I could write more, but this isn't a quarterly report.
I break my own rules from time to time
Colorado State
05-08-13, 06:13
Great words to live by.
The poem version to help us remember. Any musicians to make it a song?
REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO MEETING A TRUE POT SB.
Prefer AA or mix.
Prefer 18 to 26 and no problem to suck dicks.
Must be totally shaved, Must be submissive to start.
But will occasionally switch for the right girl if she has heart.
Must live within a 45 minutes drive.
And Max height 5'5",
Max weight 115.
And prefer an upper teen.
Must have some similar sexual interests.
Must have a sweet personality and have some intellegence.
Must be willing to meet for a buck.
Well Maybe a tad more for a truly awesomely good fuck!
Some else please continue.
HollywoodGuy
05-13-13, 16:54
Face / body / attitude / skills.
I am now in the process of just solidifying my best girls by giving them all my time.
1. Wifey. Hot MILF (46) AA . 8/9/10/10+. Seeing her once a week. She claims that starting on the first there will be no more allowance and I can just buy her the occasional gift with no expectations. Been seeing her for 18 months. Will spend about $$$$ a month on her. Best sex of my life bar none.
2. New Girlfriend (19) AA . 10/10/10/8. The Little Princess. Helping her launch her modeling career. She now stays here every weekend and comes over at least one weekday as well. Been seeing her for about 10 weeks. Spending about 1k a month on her. Could keep my face buried between her legs forever.
3. The Friend (22) Asian . 8/8/10+/9. My Live In. We hook up at least once a week. She as been living here for about 6 months now. She is costing me nothing but free rent at this point. So lucky to have a real friend like her.
4. The Stalker (26) 9/7/6/? White . Civi girl I met on SD4ME. Stopped spending money on her. She visits me once a week. No sex at this time. Says she is going to marry me. Spoiled rich girl with a quirky personality.
I am still searching on SD4ME but only came across one or 2 interesting profiles in the last 6 weeks. No urgency to date as I am fully booked in the FC if I want, with girls 1, 2 and 3. I will have done all 3 in the last 36 hours by tonite. I have one other random girl but she has been gone for over a month on vacation.
HollywoodGuy
05-13-13, 22:14
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3769018
gmoneybarbie0
This girl is too funny. I won't relay our conversation. But you'd have to be ready to mortgage the farm to date her. GPS to the 10th power.
HollywoodGuy
05-13-13, 23:19
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2632034-HOtBecky1-Hollywood-California-SugarBaby
Someone recently asked me about her. Her pics are 5 years old and she weighs at least 50 lbs more today. Terrible skills. I TFTT a while back with her. Total waste of money.
HollywoodGuy
05-15-13, 00:16
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3798540&from=mail_list
Total beyotch. Stay away.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2632034-HOtBecky1-Hollywood-California-SugarBaby
Someone recently asked me about her. Her pics are 5 years old and she weighs at least 50 lbs more today. Terrible skills. I TFTT a while back with her. Total waste of money.She actually mailed me yesterday wanting to hook up since its her Bday. Thought that was funny and so ironic.
PC out
Well saw a lady friend of mine post this new dating site on Facebook. The site is called " whatsyourprice" com. Just signed up myself, and was wondering if anyone used it yet?
Looking like a good fishing hole.
HollywoodGuy
05-15-13, 10:23
Fake Russian Ad. You will see her pic on many multiple profiles. All fakes.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2599127-queen02748-Torrance-California-SugarBaby
Fake Russian Ad. You will see her pic on many multiple profiles. All fakes.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2599127-queen02748-Torrance-California-SugarBabyGood Day,
Long time lurker, I got a message also from one out of the country.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3789120
AnalPlay09
05-15-13, 11:20
I joined that site a while back. There are some very hot girls who are open to meeting. Basically, you make an offer to meet a girl. She can accept, decline or make a counter offer. However, the downside is you cannot communicate with the person without an offer being accepted. Thus, someone can accept your offer of X amount. But their idea and your idea of what you are paying for could be completely different. It happened to me three times. After my offer was accepted I asked a sexual question and was rebuffed rather angrily. LOL.
Well saw a lady friend of mine post this new dating site on Facebook. The site is called " whatsyourprice" com. Just signed up myself, and was wondering if anyone used it yet?
Looking like a good fishing hole.
Well saw a lady friend of mine post this new dating site on Facebook. The site is called " whatsyourprice" com. Just signed up myself, and was wondering if anyone used it yet?
Looking like a good fishing hole.I've dabbled on there but haven't had much luck converting dates into an arrangement. If you're anything like me, be ready for sticker shock on some of the counter offers you get. There is some bleed over between that site and some of the more traditional SD sites, and I've found a few Pros using WYP as well (at least in the LA area). I haven't ever bid on a date with one, however. Would be interested in hearing how you do on there, see if it's just me.
Went out with a POT from SA yesterday. Did a typical meet and greet. I usually do it in a restaurant since I still haven't got my "let's go to the FC" language down yet. I think I treated it too much like a normal date, right down to the kiss at the end. She was just off the bus, though, so I didn't want to push too hard too fast. Anyway, she's been radio silent since (even after saying "text me when you have free time". I'll be damned. It was a date LOL) so we'll see how that goes. Got another POT on the hook, but she's even busier than I am apparently and can't get away until "late at night". Not sure how I'll get the Crew Chief to let that one slide.
Oh, while I'm rambling, a little "humor". I started texting back and forth with a stripper who lives in OC about a month ago. She gave me the typical sob story. She hurt herself and can't work (or see me right now. But you know, she still wants the help and will really rock my world when she's all healed up) , her car is busted, etc. I try to negotiate an amount (for when she's able to meet. I'm clear there will be nothing before then) and she tells me she needs more. I say no and she poofs. Well, guess who just texted me asking about when I could start seeing her? Hmm.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=profile&pmid=3800998&from=mail_list
Asking for $$ per visit. During the negotiation to $, she was so flexible to get a room in San Diego so that I don't need to drive despite she can host. Also, her tone (calling me hun on the first message). Smelling something not right. Sure enough, found her posting on RedBook. 1.4 / hr. I then called her out. Radio Silent since then.
HollywoodGuy
05-15-13, 21:30
Good Day,
Long time lurker, I got a message also from one out of the country.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3789120The ones outside the USA are obviously ones to stay away from. But its when they use an american zipcode you have to beware.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=2365409
Obviously very attractive by was shocked (Shocked, I tell you!) by my compensation. Very superior and I just laugh. Brags about her Several degrees and such. Hmm, things are going so well for you that you are on this site? At the same time, I now have two regulars. One a 28 year old with fantastic skills and sexy as anything. She isn't a stunner but she can carry on a conversation and is up for checking out swinger clubs which opens up a whole world for me.
HollywoodGuy
05-16-13, 19:01
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=2365409
Obviously very attractive by was shocked (Shocked, I tell you!) by my compensation. Very superior and I just laugh. Brags about her Several degrees and such. Hmm, things are going so well for you that you are on this site? At the same time, I now have two regulars. One a 28 year old with fantastic skills and sexy as anything. She isn't a stunner but she can carry on a conversation and is up for checking out swinger clubs which opens up a whole world for me.I remember talking her a year or 2 ago. Nice but overpriced.
PaperTiger24
05-16-13, 19:35
I've dabbled on there but haven't had much luck converting dates into an arrangement. If you're anything like me, be ready for sticker shock on some of the counter offers you get. There is some bleed over between that site and some of the more traditional SD sites, and I've found a few Pros using WYP as well (at least in the LA area). I haven't ever bid on a date with one, however. Would be interested in hearing how you do on there, see if it's just me.
Went out with a POT from SA yesterday. Did a typical meet and greet. I usually do it in a restaurant since I still haven't got my "let's go to the FC" language down yet. I think I treated it too much like a normal date, right down to the kiss at the end. She was just off the bus, though, so I didn't want to push too hard too fast. Anyway, she's been radio silent since (even after saying "text me when you have free time". I'll be damned. It was a date LOL) so we'll see how that goes. Got another POT on the hook, but she's even busier than I am apparently and can't get away until "late at night". Not sure how I'll get the Crew Chief to let that one slide.
Oh, while I'm rambling, a little "humor". I started texting back and forth with a stripper who lives in OC about a month ago. She gave me the typical sob story. She hurt herself and can't work (or see me right now. But you know, she still wants the help and will really rock my world when she's all healed up) , her car is busted, etc. I try to negotiate an amount (for when she's able to meet. I'm clear there will be nothing before then) and she tells me she needs more. I say no and she poofs. Well, guess who just texted me asking about when I could start seeing her? Hmm.I'm trying this out as we speak. I don't like that you have to purchase credits to engage in a convo but we'll see. I'll report if I'm successful.
AsianFrosty
05-16-13, 23:06
It definitely seems like some of these girls have already been spoiled by some "Daddies" that are paying way too much. I had one that expected me to pay for $1500 a month to have coffee with her once per week. Another was an overweight black woman that wanted to meet for sex for $400 per session. Insanity.
She actually mailed me yesterday wanting to hook up since its her Bday. Thought that was funny and so ironic.
PC outShe advertises fairly often on CL (casual encounters) and has had at least 3 birthdays already this year. Last several times the ad states thai, but have also seen korean. She usualy sends the same pics so I know its her.
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She advertises fairly often on CL (casual encounters) and has had at least 3 birthdays already this year. Last several times the ad states thai, but have also seen korean. She usualy sends the same pics so I know its her.That doesn't surprise me should it surprise anyone?
It's a minefield these girls put us they on SD4M.
It's actually weighing on my patience with all the investigative work and Tineye and Google Images fake pics they use.
PC out
Since there is no San Diego SD-related forum, posting here. This gal is a scammer. (IMO). Had a M&G, and agreed with the first date. I need to rent a room (her request instead of hosting at her place) , and things changed."Can't kiss since I don't feel like it." blah blah blah. Fuck once, but not enjoying. Watch out for her. BTW, she has a "fat stomach" after she removed her clothes. .
http://www.sugardaddysite.com/index.php?page=profile&id=2644525
So why is this a scam. She showed up, looked like her pics, had some hidden weight and gave up the goodies on the first date for a price you agreed to. She is young and looks hot. So you had sex with a young asian hottie and the quality was bad, but she is far from a scammer. Chalk it up as bad chemistry and either try again and see if things get better or move on and try to ask questions in advance to ensure you get what you want. As long as they know the money is based on your happiness, then you have a better chance of success.
BigTigg.
Since there is no San Diego SD-related forum, posting here. This gal is a scammer. (IMO). Had a M&G, and agreed with the first date. I need to rent a room (her request instead of hosting at her place) , and things changed."Can't kiss since I don't feel like it." blah blah blah. Fuck once, but not enjoying. Watch out for her. BTW, she has a "fat stomach" after she removed her clothes. .
http://www.sugardaddysite.com/index.php?page=profile&id=2644525
Did ask specific questions, but not delivering as she answered.
Again, IMO, she is a scammer. (pure my personal opinion).
So why is this a scam. She showed up, looked like her pics, had some hidden weight and gave up the goodies on the first date for a price you agreed to. She is young and looks hot. So you had sex with a young asian hottie and the quality was bad, but she is far from a scammer. Chalk it up as bad chemistry and either try again and see if things get better or move on and try to ask questions in advance to ensure you get what you want. As long as they know the money is based on your happiness, then you have a better chance of success.
BigTigg.
Socalasian
05-22-13, 11:44
I don't understand how this was a scammer. You met her, she asked you to rent a room, you got in her pants for a fee. That's kinda how the game works, right? I mean "fat stomach" really- her pictures don't exactly look like a skinny chick- there are some definite hips and thighs carrying some weight in those photos that's not a 100lb. Asian model.
I guess maybe it just wasn't to your expectation but calling her a scam is kinda rough. Maybe she just wasn't into you but needed the money- that does happen.
What did she set you back? Is that the problem?
Happy Hunting!
Since there is no San Diego SD-related forum, posting here. This gal is a scammer. (IMO). Had a M&G, and agreed with the first date. I need to rent a room (her request instead of hosting at her place) , and things changed."Can't kiss since I don't feel like it." blah blah blah. Fuck once, but not enjoying. Watch out for her. BTW, she has a "fat stomach" after she removed her clothes. .
http://www.sugardaddysite.com/index.php?page=profile&id=2644525
Since there is no San Diego SD-related forum, posting here. This gal is a scammer. (IMO). Had a M&G, and agreed with the first date. I need to rent a room (her request instead of hosting at her place) , and things changed."Can't kiss since I don't feel like it." blah blah blah. Fuck once, but not enjoying. Watch out for her. BTW, she has a "fat stomach" after she removed her clothes. .
http://www.sugardaddysite.com/index.php?page=profile&id=2644525She's a pro. Used to be on HX.
Does anyone incentivize performance, as in tying daily sugar to "how happy you feel after" (code for how well she fucks but in language that doesn't explicitly frame her as a hooker). For example a base rate of $100 + a bonus $40 if she does ok, $80 if she's awesome, $150 if she blows your mind.
HollywoodGuy
05-28-13, 12:38
Does anyone incentivize performance, as in tying daily sugar to "how happy you feel after" (code for how well she fucks but in language that doesn't explicitly frame her as a hooker). For example a base rate of $100 + a bonus $40 if she does ok, $80 if she's awesome, $150 if she blows your mind.At those prices your dick may never come out of their mouth.
HollywoodGuy
06-10-13, 03:16
When I wish I was rich.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2668362-TheAddiction-Los-Angeles-California-SugarBaby
Rockhard 441
06-10-13, 09:14
Holy FUCK! She is spectacular!
When I wish I was rich.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2668362-TheAddiction-Los-Angeles-California-SugarBaby
When I wish I was rich.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2668362-TheAddiction-Los-Angeles-California-SugarBabyI looked at those pictures.
I am now going to buy a lottery ticket.
HollywoodGuy
06-10-13, 16:02
I looked at those pictures.
I am now going to buy a lottery ticket.Http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/photos/77/SugarBaby-HJH3836677_5.jpg
HollywoodGuy
06-10-13, 16:04
Does anyone incentivize performance, as in tying daily sugar to "how happy you feel after" (code for how well she fucks but in language that doesn't explicitly frame her as a hooker). For example a base rate of $100 + a bonus $40 if she does ok, $80 if she's awesome, $150 if she blows your mind.I would never bonus a girl for a one time performance. Over time the regulars you care about always get more. Unless they really like you in which case they might get less.
How do prices in Orange County compare to LA? I'll be working in Newport and I have a feeling that area will be high priced, but I'm considering the surrounding area also.
HollywoodGuy
06-10-13, 18:08
How do prices in Orange County compare to LA? I'll be working in Newport and I have a feeling that area will be high priced, but I'm considering the surrounding area also.Just scooch over to the Anaheim area.
PaperTiger24
06-16-13, 15:44
So this is a bit overdue but I'll share some quick highlights.
Site is free to sign up, but you have to pay for credits to actually message girls on there. Be selective and the higher the agreed bid, the more credits you'll have to pay. There are some pretty hot girls on the site but not everyone is down for the same thing.
Messaged several girls and pretty easy to get numbers. But like 70% failure rate. Talks didn't go anywhere, or once we got to details, we weren't on the same page. Got bitched at a few times. I'm not a hooker blah blah blah. Piss off.
Went on 3 dates. 1st one was bullshit, just a lunch. 2nd one was a black UTR that I hit for 60 plus hourly notel fee. 3rd had dinner and the upsell came. I thought the agreed amount on the site was agreed amount period. Didn't pay her but I was out for the dinner. Who's going to pay 300 for some poor ratchet girl. Not me.
Anyway I stopped using the site. Wouldn't recommend, stick with SD4me or SA.
HollywoodGuy
06-16-13, 16:01
So this is a bit overdue but I'll share some quick highlights.
Site is free to sign up, but you have to pay for credits to actually message girls on there. Be selective and the higher the agreed bid, the more credits you'll have to pay. There are some pretty hot girls on the site but not everyone is down for the same thing.
Messaged several girls and pretty easy to get numbers. But like 70% failure rate. Talks didn't go anywhere, or once we got to details, we weren't on the same page. Got bitched at a few times. I'm not a hooker blah blah blah. Fuck off.
Went on 3 dates. 1st one was bullshit, just a lunch. 2nd one was a black UTR that I hit for 60 plus hourly notel fee. 3rd had dinner and the upsell came. I thought the agreed amount on the site was agreed amount period. Didn't pay the * but I was out for the dinner. Who's going to pay 300 for some poor ass ratchet. Not me.
Anyway I stopped using the site. Wouldn't recommend, stick with SD4me or SA.I am leery of any site that doesn't charge a flat rate
HollywoodGuy
07-04-13, 15:22
Seems all the action is on the richmond thread. Have moved my posts there for now unless I have a girl to share. Which at the moment I do not
LooknForeU
07-04-13, 15:45
sound advice and well put. i am relatively new to the domestic scene, i see that the p4p game via sb sd platform can to be realized by us "common men".
my friend is a hardworking stiff like me 9-5. he started fowarding emails to me that he was getting from young ladies in need of whatever, any little bit helps when home is hell. sweet girls too.
although i am not a rich man, as is most often portrayed in the media as bonafied sd; there is a spot for guys like me with a young lady tht will appreciate my donation for quality time.
i pretty much now only exclusively date 18-20 year-olds. if you can find a 18. 20 year-old who likes older men or has daddy issues, they'll treat you like a king while at the same time not have all the baggage and money expectations of the older girls.
if i think back, just about every single young sb i had a good experience with, did not have a father in their life. divorced, separated, estranged, neglected and etc. it's one of the cases where the stereotypes are true. and the times i dealt with sbs who only cared about the money and lifestyle, usually came from dual parent households and had a stable upbringing. in my experience, those girls usually just wanted to be arm candy or had gps. even if i managed an agreeable arrangement, they were never really that into me.
i think i mentioned this before, but i've basically been developing a psyche profile of girls who are prime sb candidates. the sd sites are great, but my hope is that i can pluck out a fresh sb from the general population. girls who don't even know about sugar daddy sites, but are receptive to the concept. these girls will be much easier to hold on to because they're technically not in the market for a bunch of other sds to hit them up.
the young ones do have their downsides though. conversations can sometimes be difficult if she's shy and there's no common point. many of them have limited resources, so you'll often have to pick them up and host yourself. young sbs tend to be more open to bb activities with no questions asked, this could be a good or bad thing depending on your perspective. also make sure you do your due diligence and confirm she's over 18. some **** girls sign up on those sd sites, so you have to be careful. unlike the pro scene, the sugar world is pretty much worry free from le for men. but you could find yourself in huge trouble if you get caught essentially giving money for sex to an **** girl.
young sbs are great as long as you're careful. they are also not always adept yet at being discreet, so be careful what you say over text or email. you don't want a parent or older sibling coming after you.
Logged in and the site seemed eerily familiar. Then I realized it's an offshoot of Ashley Madison with the same underlying reason I don't use AM as much. You have to buy credits and use credits up as you contact people. That's not going to work for me. As soon as I realized that, not even 30 minutes after signing up, I cancelled my account. They did a good job of advertising, I immediately saw some pictures I recognized. But in the end, the places that charge a flat monthly fee and let you work your magic are cheaper and better.
BigTigg
Logged in and the site seemed eerily familiar. Then I realized it's an offshoot of Ashley Madison with the same underlying reason I don't use AM as much. You have to buy credits and use credits up as you contact people. That's not going to work for me. As soon as I realized that, not even 30 minutes after signing up, I cancelled my account. They did a good job of advertising, I immediately saw some pictures I recognized. But in the end, the places that charge a flat monthly fee and let you work your magic are cheaper and better.
BigTiggAs long as you didn't upgrade and give them your credit card, why cancel the account. You can browse and narrow the selection, they give you one flirt and one message free on a daily basis, who knows maybe a girl you are interested will respond with her email or # and you can beat their system? As long as no money is spent what's the problem?
As long as you didn't upgrade and give them your credit card, why cancel the account. You can browse and narrow the selection, they give you one flirt and one message free on a daily basis, who knows maybe a girl you are interested will respond with her email or # and you can beat their system? As long as no money is spent what's the problem?Very good point. I'm so biased against the AM model, that I didn't even know those options were there. I'll have to go back login, that will keep the account open and see where it goes from there. Thanks for the good info.
BT
Very good point. I'm so biased against the AM model, that I didn't even know those options were there. I'll have to go back login, that will keep the account open and see where it goes from there. Thanks for the good info.
BTNo problem. As long as you can ignore the constant prompts to upgrade, and use them for your purposes, you are good. I understand the bias, so many of these cites solicit you with emails, hoping that you will take their 3 day trial for $1. 95, and not realize that it becomes a recurring charge at $29. 95. It is ridiculous!
HollywoodGuy
07-15-13, 22:11
Met this girl on SD4ME about 2 months ago. Took her to lunch and that was it. She was a ROB so I told her to leave. Just got a call from her husband (so he claimed). Screaming that he knows she was fucking me and now I got herpes. Good thing I kicked her to the curb. You get some close calls in this game. Good thing almost doesn't count.
Hornilius69
07-15-13, 23:44
Met this girl on SD4ME about 2 months ago. Took her to lunch and that was it. She was a ROB so I told her to leave. Just got a call from her husband (so he claimed). Screaming that he knows she was fucking me and now I got herpes. Good thing I kicked her to the curb. You get some close calls in this game. Good thing almost doesn't count.What does she looks like, so we can avoid her in the future?
What does she looks like, so we can avoid her in the future?HwG put her SDFM name on the title. Just did a search on SDFM. I just did. 29 AA "single".
HwG, her husband checked her phone to get your phone#
HollywoodGuy
07-16-13, 00:44
HwG put her SDFM name on the title. Just did a search on SDFM. I just did. 29 AA "single".
HwG, her husband checked her phone to get your phone#He did see my number on the bill (probably online). He was checking all her txt messages from 2 months ago, this is a girl I never even touched as we could not agree on a price (although price was discussed prior to her visit). After she left she called me from her car and said if I didn't give her $20 she was going to send her "uncle" over to my house to kick my ass, I then gave her the $20 just to avoid bad karma. She got that little Ima sweet MILF pic on the site. When she came over dressed very trashy (in a bad way). She sensed my discomfort and the first words out of her mouth were " I,m not ghetto" and it was all downhill from there. So either she gave her husband an std or he was just angry and venting. And yeah thats her, 29 and she said her husband left her and her kids to rot about 4 months earlier.
Also took her to lunch (kind of embarrassing) and gave her gas money as it was a 100+ mile round trip for her. She wasn't a pro (a pro would have tried to negotiate something), just down on her luck. I was ready to do what I promised for the agreed upon rate. When she didn't put out I didn't pay the balance. Who would?
HollywoodGuy
08-13-13, 04:33
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2153022-Babyxprincess-Hollywood-California-SugarBaby
I know she is at least $$$ a visit.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2153022-Babyxprincess-Hollywood-California-SugarBaby
I know she is at least $$$ a visit.PM me her contact info and I'll take one for the team.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2153022-Babyxprincess-Hollywood-California-SugarBaby
I know she is at least $$$ a visit.Ill TOFTT if you can PM me her digits. Lately I've been scouring el clasificado but feel like venturing out.
HollywoodGuy
08-19-13, 02:07
Ill TOFTT if you can PM me her digits. Lately I've been scouring el clasificado but feel like venturing out.I lost them long ago and now she won't talk to me. Just message her through sd4me if yr a member. Sorry
HollywoodGuy
09-02-13, 19:28
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3928549&from=mail_list
ME: sent original offer ($) which was deleted.
SHE: (10 days later) school starts tomorrow and I m horny and need new SD. Want to go shopping and then bare fuckin. Can you handle it?
ME: I never shop before the panties drop. And BTW. You turned down the offer I made you when you signed up a week or so ago. But if you"re ever in hollywood lmk.
SHE: Pick me up at mcdonands. Take me shopping. Then take me to nice hotel and I will suck you and let you fuck me totally bare. I am horny
Me: I believe you would. But I only visit after a preset amount has been agreed to upfront. No time for shopping. You can do that later.
SHE: (something unitelligible)
Any guys in the OC want to TFTT?
She is listed as a "hot local". Meaning she is messaging every guy on the site. These are girls that are usually desperate to get cash now. But with a lot of GPS attached to it. Go figure
HollywoodGuy
09-07-13, 03:17
Saw her 3 times. Very sweet and nice. She just wasn't exactly what I was looking for in a regular (and I am more the regular type of guy, as opposed to a new girl everyday) but I may see her again. I recommend her for a chill good time. Very nice hard body and very clean. Total damage was $ for FS.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2724167-RonnieBonnie-Altadena--Ca-SugarBaby
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3704112&from=mail_list
This girl is pretty much crazy. She is a ROB and very strange if she doesn't get what she wants. Pretty much a brat. GPS all the way. Wanted some help with groceries initially and I obliged to the tune of 8 at trader joes. She was acting like she was offering head although with attitude about why am I on the site if I can't afford at least 7k a month and that her other offers were up to 20k which she declined. Took the pair for groceries and she said bye I got to go, thanks and kept telling me how awesome her party that I was going to finance on the weekend would be. She had a cool roommate that sang over my tracks that I had been playing in the car that I self produced who later didn't want me using the restroom but eventually let me in after Cece had locked herself out of the house. She wanted to go for sushi on the second meeting and I brought my own yellowtail that I caught deep sea fishing. Initially we had been arguing about how she was just after my money and didn't want to get to know each other and it turns out to be true. The sushi date ended up just being spent hanging out in my car listening to some beats I made and music, how she wanted the grocery money and party money. I kept asking her to telegraph more interest to me and how do I know there is any chemistry and that maybe we could try and kiss. I told her I just wanted to help out as a friend and didn't expect anything but would be open to anything depending on the vibe and our chemistry. Turns out she didn't like the coconut water I brought her and wasn't very organic and natural or my type at all. Got mad when I said I'd sponser her party and go shopping with her in person instead of handing over the money, she wanted half first and half later and I told her I couldn't because she didn't even want to be friendly and I wasn't asking for half a kiss or even anything but wasn't willing to be her sugar daddy until things worked out. I get a text at 7:30 am and subsequent texts telling me to delete her number and that she's deleting mine because I am trying to bribe her. She was highly unappreciative and no way am I willing to pay for a platonic friends situation, got plenty friends who are free and they are my real friends and wouldn't charge me to be there for me. Major attitude problems and no place to hang out, not willing to try or even act considerate. Stay away unless you like giving away free money and want to hear her complain about how she doesn't have an unlimited credit card in your name and free money for hanging out wasting your time.Oh wow, I had one like this. A real stunner, felt that I should give her the whole amount upfront because she's worth it, LOL. Would barely kiss, but didn't like the fact that initially I wanted to pay per date, thought the amounts just seemed too small. Wanted me to pay for her move and furnish her place, but didn't want to show any affection or interest. Got to love these types. They are not even worth a small investment.
BT
HollywoodGuy
09-21-13, 17:18
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3704112&from=mail_list
This girl is pretty much crazy. She is a ROB and very strange if she doesn't get what she wants. Pretty much a brat. GPS all the way. Wanted some help with groceries initially and I obliged to the tune of 8 at trader joes. She was acting like she was offering head although with attitude about why am I on the site if I can't afford at least 7k a month and that her other offers were up to 20k which she declined. Took the pair for groceries and she said bye I got to go, thanks and kept telling me how awesome her party that I was going to finance on the weekend would be. She had a cool roommate that sang over my tracks that I had been playing in the car that I self produced who later didn't want me using the restroom but eventually let me in after Cece had locked herself out of the house. She wanted to go for sushi on the second meeting and I brought my own yellowtail that I caught deep sea fishing. Initially we had been arguing about how she was just after my money and didn't want to get to know each other and it turns out to be true. The sushi date ended up just being spent hanging out in my car listening to some beats I made and music, how she wanted the grocery money and party money. I kept asking her to telegraph more interest to me and how do I know there is any chemistry and that maybe we could try and kiss. I told her I just wanted to help out as a friend and didn't expect anything but would be open to anything depending on the vibe and our chemistry. Turns out she didn't like the coconut water I brought her and wasn't very organic and natural or my type at all. Got mad when I said I'd sponser her party and go shopping with her in person instead of handing over the money, she wanted half first and half later and I told her I couldn't because she didn't even want to be friendly and I wasn't asking for half a kiss or even anything but wasn't willing to be her sugar daddy until things worked out. I get a text at 7:30 am and subsequent texts telling me to delete her number and that she's deleting mine because I am trying to bribe her. She was highly unappreciative and no way am I willing to pay for a platonic friends situation, got plenty friends who are free and they are my real friends and wouldn't charge me to be there for me. Major attitude problems and no place to hang out, not willing to try or even act considerate. Stay away unless you like giving away free money and want to hear her complain about how she doesn't have an unlimited credit card in your name and free money for hanging out wasting your time.She annoyed me so bad I had to block her.
I eventually broke down and paid for a month. I've manage to get a decent amount of conversations and responses. I've been able to get 3 dates out of it. One is my new main SB. One I've had some backseat fun with, kissing-licking the kitty, but no full blown tiggabounce yet. The other did not look as good as her pictures and was too overweight, too ghetto and too expensive. I've had a few that flaked out and one that I put a pause on before we met, because even though she was worth the amount she wanted, I was already gainfully drained by my new SB.
So, like many other sites, if you work it, you can be successful. There is some GPS and there doesn't seem to be as many choices as with the other main SD / SB sites.
BT
HollywoodGuy
09-27-13, 13:05
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3968013
She just signed up. Definitely a pro but looks to be slim enough. Not perfect for sure. In the north east SFV.
Jack Reacher
09-27-13, 13:22
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3968013
She just signed up. Definitely a pro but looks to be slim enough. Not perfect for sure. In the north east SFV.She's on BackPage & MyRedBook.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3968013
She just signed up. Definitely a pro but looks to be slim enough. Not perfect for sure. In the north east SFV.This one just gave me a kiss too. She's not my type though so I blocked her.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3928549&from=mail_list
ME: sent original offer ($) which was deleted.
SHE: (10 days later) school starts tomorrow and I m horny and need new SD. Want to go shopping and then bare fuckin. Can you handle it?
ME: I never shop before the panties drop. And BTW. You turned down the offer I made you when you signed up a week or so ago. But if you"re ever in hollywood lmk.
SHE: Pick me up at mcdonands. Take me shopping. Then take me to nice hotel and I will suck you and let you fuck me totally bare. I am horny
Me: I believe you would. But I only visit after a preset amount has been agreed to upfront. No time for shopping. You can do that later.
SHE: (something unitelligible)
Any guys in the OC want to TFTT?
She is listed as a "hot local". Meaning she is messaging every guy on the site. These are girls that are usually desperate to get cash now. But with a lot of GPS attached to it. Go figureI contacted her but didn't get any response.
HollywoodGuy
09-28-13, 19:45
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=profile&pmid=3250549
This girl was always down for anything for $ (uncovered). Used to see her a couple years ago. Car dates are fine.
Just wanted to say thanks for all this info.
I'm in Orange County, but the Non-Pro thread there seems the closest to this SD / SB thread.
I'm fairly new in the hobby and have only seen escorts.
It's fun and easy, but I'm giving this SB thing a shot.
It won't be for everyone because of the time it takes to get it rolling, but I'm amazed at the results some of you have.
I read through all the posts here and about half on the Richmond thread.
Information overload, but worth reading through again.
Hope I'll be sharing about my success here soon.
Member #5570
09-29-13, 00:38
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=profile&pmid=3250549
This girl was always down for anything for $ (uncovered). Used to see her a couple years ago. Car dates are fine.That's pretty nice for $.
Hollywood, is that you in her pic? The white guy with glasses? .
Hornilius69
09-29-13, 02:03
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/?page=profile&pmid=3250549
This girl was always down for anything for $ (uncovered). Used to see her a couple years ago. Car dates are fine.Will she lets us mongers creampie her for $?
HollywoodGuy
09-29-13, 02:16
That's pretty nice for $.
Hollywood, is that you in her pic? The white guy with glasses? .Hell no dude. I, ll be 60 in a couple months... Also i just re took a look at that pick. she packed on about 20 lbs. she used to be pretty thin
HollywoodGuy
09-30-13, 00:03
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2782208-Pleasurable#1-Pasadena-California-SugarBaby
Can someone TOFTT. I know its a risk.
HollywoodGuy
09-30-13, 00:03
Will she lets us mongers creampie her for $?Ask her. She might say yes
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2782208-Pleasurable#1-Pasadena-California-SugarBaby
Can someone TOFTT. I know its a risk.I saw her about me section and thought she'd be way too much trouble with an attitude like that.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2782208-Pleasurable#1-Pasadena-California-SugarBaby
Can someone TOFTT. I know its a risk.It's a fake account. If you google image search her pics, they appear across dozens of forums / adult sites.
Hook it up with her digits Hollywood would love to see her.
Ask her. She might say yes
HollywoodGuy
09-30-13, 21:55
Hook it up with her digits Hollywood would love to see her.Why not just go on the site and hit her up?
J Martinez
09-30-13, 22:36
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2782208-Pleasurable#1-Pasadena-California-SugarBaby
Can someone TOFTT. I know its a risk.
My name is Janette I am looking for help with school and I will not meet unless we agree to some type of commitment and I receive half upfront and half when we meet, If you email me that means you agree to my terms, if you do and you dont you will be blocked and deleted. I will not change my mind so dont ask. Sorry too many headaches on this siteDid you notice her m&g conditions? Does anyone agree to these crazy terms?
HollywoodGuy
10-01-13, 02:30
Did you notice her m&g conditions? Does anyone agree to these crazy terms?Actually, after closer examination I have determined this is a guy, not a girl.
HollywoodGuy
10-19-13, 03:19
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2791077-metuka4-Hollywood-California-SugarBaby
Very sweet if somewhat big girl. DFK, BBBJ, BBFS all for $. Stayed for 2 hours. Your price may vary depending on timing, game, etc. Great personality as we used to say in HS. Nice apt in a good area.
EnjoyYourself
10-25-13, 11:03
What does it mean if a SB is a "total access gold member"? Is it the same for the girls as the guys? Does that mean she's probably a not a NP? A pro whose just trying to work a new angle, I.e., the SD / SB game?
HollywoodGuy
10-25-13, 20:05
What does it mean if a SB is a "total access gold member"? Is it the same for the girls as the guys? Does that mean she's probably a not a NP? A pro whose just trying to work a new angle, I.e., the SD / SB game?It just means she got tricked into getting a gold membership thinking after the 3 days free pass was up that she would be kicked off the site. Girls get access to all male gold members regardless. So they never have to pay if they don't want to. Men that are not gold access are not considered real SD"s.
HollywoodGuy
11-16-13, 21:03
The last post should say $.
HippyHippyShak
11-17-13, 15:01
Hallmarks of a highly managed working girl.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3704112&from=mail_list
This girl is pretty much crazy. She is a ROB and very strange if she doesn't get what she wants. Pretty much a brat. GPS all the way. Wanted some help with groceries initially and I obliged to the tune of 8 at trader joes. She was acting like she was offering head although with attitude about why am I on the site if I can't afford at least 7k a month and that her other offers were up to 20k which she declined. Took the pair for groceries and she said bye I got to go, thanks and kept telling me how awesome her party that I was going to finance on the weekend would be. She had a cool roommate that sang over my tracks that I had been playing in the car that I self produced who later didn't want me using the restroom but eventually let me in after Cece had locked herself out of the house. She wanted to go for sushi on the second meeting and I brought my own yellowtail that I caught deep sea fishing. Initially we had been arguing about how she was just after my money and didn't want to get to know each other and it turns out to be true. The sushi date ended up just being spent hanging out in my car listening to some beats I made and music, how she wanted the grocery money and party money. I kept asking her to telegraph more interest to me and how do I know there is any chemistry and that maybe we could try and kiss. I told her I just wanted to help out as a friend and didn't expect anything but would be open to anything depending on the vibe and our chemistry. Turns out she didn't like the coconut water I brought her and wasn't very organic and natural or my type at all. Got mad when I said I'd sponser her party and go shopping with her in person instead of handing over the money, she wanted half first and half later and I told her I couldn't because she didn't even want to be friendly and I wasn't asking for half a kiss or even anything but wasn't willing to be her sugar daddy until things worked out. I get a text at 7:30 am and subsequent texts telling me to delete her number and that she's deleting mine because I am trying to bribe her. She was highly unappreciative and no way am I willing to pay for a platonic friends situation, got plenty friends who are free and they are my real friends and wouldn't charge me to be there for me. Major attitude problems and no place to hang out, not willing to try or even act considerate. Stay away unless you like giving away free money and want to hear her complain about how she doesn't have an unlimited credit card in your name and free money for hanging out wasting your time.
HollywoodGuy
11-17-13, 16:00
Hallmarks of a highly managed working girl.OMG... I have this girl blocked.. And I almost never do that.
Met her about six months ago on the site. She is definitely a bigger girl but damn, she loves to suck cock. We have only gotten together a few times because she lives over an hour away but we have been out to Freedom Acres (Swing club) on our second date! LOL. Almost hooked up with another couple, she was going to go with the guy and I was going to go with the smokin' hot wife, so she is an excellent wing woman. Huge tits, loves sex and open to anal but we found out I am too big for her at the moment. We got together a couple weekend ago and she sucked my cock for close to an hour. She can deep throat, licks balls and tongues my ass. She isn't on the site anymore but is still playing around which I am fine with, don't want her thinking are more than what we are. Everytime I see her, regardless of the time, it's $. Sweet. May go back on the site but the truth of it is, I am too busy to cultivate things, which is why I like hx as the go to site.
HollywoodGuy
12-31-13, 02:09
I had been emailing a very sweet and super shy freshman for the last 2 weeks that I could just not convince to see me. Well finally today I picked her up from her home and took her to mine. She was extremely shy and almost didn't say a word. She was a 19 year old AA 5' 4' 115 lb girl with nice see cups and a round ass. Being generous she was a 9/9/9/9. She was wearing a form fitting (but not tight) dress, no bra, a sweater and glasses. Shocked the hell out of me. So pretty and a super body, just very very quiet. When we entered the FC I started to kiss her but she didn't seem to care for that. I was then informed that she was on her period. I wasnt really upset and just figured we would go in some other direction. I tried variously petting, kissing and sweet talking, with little success. I asked her to lay down on the bed, which lasted about 15 seconds. At this point I told myself it's my job to try and understand this girl. She willingly came to the FC and there was no talk of sugar since the original contact message 2 weeks ago. At that moment she says "let me get comfortable" and proceeds to lie face down on the bed fully clothed with her legs together and crossed at the ankles. I am not really sure what to do next, so I just lay next to her and alternate between massaging her ass, cuddling her and grinding from behind. This seems to arouse her as she grinds back and starts squiming a bit, so I pull her panties down just enough to start fingering her ass. This elicits more squirming, so I start to finger her with 2 fingers and very agressively. After about 5 minutes of this I tell her I am going to put something bigger in there and slide right in. We fuck for about 30 minutes until I cum deep in her ass. This entire time she only says a few sexy things that I asked her to repeat. After we are done we take a half hour break. Total silence since the start. She then sits up and I say "well I guess I just have to do things to you without asking". She says simply "yes". This re. Arouses my interest and I have her start her oral, but she soon tires. So I have her suck my balls untill completion by lending a helping hand to each of our respctive private parts. This pleases her and afterward we clean up. Afterwards she gave me many non verbal cues as to feelings, like repeatedly fixing my collar and leaning her head on my shoulder, all without a sound. I take her to get the gift she requests as the sight of the cold hard cash (the agreed upon $) did not sit well with her (the gift cost slightly less). After 5 hours I take her home. She claims to have never dated and only been with one guy before (a BF) and he was only 20. I will definately repeat. From beginning to end she never removed or adjusted her glasses. When I asked if she could come by after school sometime she said "yes".
Long time lurker from back during the Manchester foot spa days. I took a break from the game for a bit but I'm back in now and desire to create my own little hareem of flavors. I plan to share this is go around. I love this section and find the knowledge here to be indispensable. Thank you.
I'm currently working on closing my first and she's on my hook. She's blonde and blue eyed in her 20's and a little overwieght. Just need to reel her in. I'll post more next week after we meet.
Working on a second girl who's young and black. We just started texting today so we'll see how that goes.
HollywoodGuy
02-15-14, 03:12
Met up with a girl I had been txting with for a couple weeks. A 21 year old AA UTR girl with a very positive attitude. About a 7/8/9/9. 5'7' and 125 lbs. Her oral skills were definitely better than her fucking, but both were good. Ended the first round with a BBJCIM. And then about 30 minutes later just went straight for the BBJ minus the fucking, ending with a good ball sucking and ass fingering (mine) while I jerked to completion.
I,ll probably repeat as she drove to my house and the total damage was $.
HollywoodGuy
02-15-14, 03:13
Met up with a girl I had been txting with for a couple weeks. A 21 year old AA UTR girl with a very positive attitude. About a 7/8/9/9. 5'7' and 125 lbs. Her oral skills were definitely better than her fucking, but both were good. Ended the first round with a BBJCIM. And then about 30 minutes later just went straight for the BBJ minus the fucking, ending with a good ball sucking and ass fingering (mine) while I jerked to completion.
I,ll probably repeat as she drove to my house and the total damage was $.Forgot the pic. Here it is.
I did go for a free membership with one SD site, but you don't really get anything for free.
So I cruised Backpage Women Seeking Men. That is a hotbed of SB activity. Scored bigtime and I'm a happy man. Keeping her to myself for now, but if my (unpredictable) income flow takes a dip, I'll put her info in the hands of a few trusted contributors.
My advice: use Backpage Women Seeking Men. No membership fee, and there's a chance you'll get someone super low volume like I did.
I did go for a free membership with one SD site, but you don't really get anything for free.
So I cruised Backpage Women Seeking Men. That is a hotbed of SB activity. Scored bigtime and I'm a happy man. Keeping her to myself for now, but if my (unpredictable) income flow takes a dip, I'll put her info in the hands of a few trusted contributors.
My advice: use Backpage Women Seeking Men. No membership fee, and there's a chance you'll get someone super low volume like I did.That's great but 99.999% chance she has been with many of the regulars here and only god knows who else. I keep girls to myself if it has to do with privacy concerns but if they've put an ad out there then there's really nothing you're keeping from us haha. Just my two cents.
HollywoodGuy
02-16-14, 13:14
I did go for a free membership with one SD site, but you don't really get anything for free.
So I cruised Backpage Women Seeking Men. That is a hotbed of SB activity. Scored bigtime and I'm a happy man. Keeping her to myself for now, but if my (unpredictable) income flow takes a dip, I'll put her info in the hands of a few trusted contributors.
My advice: use Backpage Women Seeking Men. No membership fee, and there's a chance you'll get someone super low volume like I did.Actually and factually its been proven over and over that if you want to be the first older guy in a young girls life your chances are far better on a SD site than CL.
HollywoodGuy
02-17-14, 18:30
Still being somewhat new to USASG, I am now aware that I am the moderator of this thread. The only rules, if we can call them that, is that all posts on here should be sourced from a sugar daddy site. Not CL, BP or any other non sugar daddy sites or random pickups that happen to turn into SB / SD relationships.
Any pics you wish to post are fine as long as the girl has her pics posted on an SD site as well. Stories with graphic detail will also be appreciated as well as any helpful info on how to source, acquire and maintain said relationships.
HollywoodGuy
02-17-14, 18:59
Any pics that are of a lurid nature should have the face blocked somewhat to maintain the girls anonymity.
HollywoodGuy,
I've read your posts with awe. I've been on sugardaddyforme as a Gold member. I have multiple numbers and connections. But when sealing the deal, it gets weird in the back and forth. Any advice on what to say when they ask, "what are you looking for" This is not a review, but I would love to post some.
You really have some stories. Ok, based on your experience, if you had to choose one site, which one would you choose?
I had been emailing a very sweet and super shy freshman for the last 2 weeks that I could just not convince to see me. Well finally today I picked her up from her home and took her to mine. She was extremely shy and almost didn't say a word. She was a 19 year old AA 5' 4' 115 lb girl with nice see cups and a round ass. Being generous she was a 9/9/9/9. She was wearing a form fitting (but not tight) dress, no bra, a sweater and glasses. Shocked the hell out of me. So pretty and a super body, just very very quiet. When we entered the FC I started to.
HollywoodGuy
02-20-14, 06:40
HollywoodGuy,
I've read your posts with awe. I've been on sugardaddyforme as a Gold member. I have multiple numbers and connections. But when sealing the deal, it gets weird in the back and forth. Any advice on what to say when they ask, "what are you looking for" This is not a review, but I would love to post some.Talk about the arrangement first and chit chat later. Girls loves guys that are upfront about what they want and what they are willing to do to get it. Don't fear rejection. Hit up lots of girls. Its a numbers game.
HollywoodGuy
02-20-14, 06:42
You really have some stories. Ok, based on your experience, if you had to choose one site, which one would you choose?I have used SD4 M exclusively for about 5 years.
HollywoodGuy
02-20-14, 06:46
HollywoodGuy,
I've read your posts with awe. I've been on sugardaddyforme as a Gold member. I have multiple numbers and connections. But when sealing the deal, it gets weird in the back and forth. Any advice on what to say when they ask, "what are you looking for" This is not a review, but I would love to post some.Look for girls whose emotional and physical needs are equal to their financial needs.
HollywoodGuy
02-22-14, 21:41
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby
Only 6 bills for an incall... Such a deal.
HollywoodGuy
02-22-14, 21:43
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2797774-blackcvt-Los-Angeles-California-SugarBaby
There must be some rich drunken sailors out there. 1 K a visit?.
J Martinez
02-22-14, 21:51
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby
Only 6 bills for an incall... Such a deal.The sad part is ... Someone is likely to pay this. Such a waste.
Hornilius69
02-22-14, 23:47
The sad part is ... Someone is likely to pay this. Such a waste.Celebrity like Charlie Sheen probably pay that much. Money isn't a problem for him because he's banging porn star everyday.
A couple years ago I flew to China for 6 bills. There you can find plenty of 18 y / o that looks better than she does for less than 30 bucks a pop.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby
Only 6 bills for an incall... Such a deal.
Definitely utr and not a non pro but pictures look hot.
HollywoodGuy
02-23-14, 23:09
Definitely utr and not a non pro but pictures look hot.The best thing is if you can post a link to her SD profile... I am only on SD4 ME.
Jack Reacher
03-02-14, 18:04
One sure fire way to get an all mouth BJ.Nice. Did you Ass Fuck her?
Hooked up with a woman who is actually my age. She is gorgeous for her years and has a body that is out of this world. No pretense that we were doing anything but jumping into bed although I think she does want to be spoiled a bit and that is fine. She is incredible in bed. Looking forward to seeing her again.
HollywoodGuy
03-03-14, 13:38
Nice. Did you Ass Fuck her?I did on our first date as she was on her period. But not since. Can't get it in. LOL. So trying some new stuff out. She is really into bondage.
I did on our first date as she was on her period. But not since. Can't get it in. LOL. So trying some new stuff out. She is really into bondage.You animal!
One day I'll get my senses straight and start digging black beauties.
Member #5570
03-15-14, 14:04
One sure fire way to get an all mouth BJ.Love it. I've done this to most of the girls I dated. Though I usually lack the proper tools and end up using either my tie or belt. Sure way to fuck a mouth the way you want it.
I got to get out there soon, the weather is starting to get warm up here in the Northeast.
HollywoodGuy
03-23-14, 16:34
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2734986-foxyroxxxi-Brea-California-SugarBaby
Wants $600 per date.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby
Wants $500 per date.
The first one lists her ethnicity as "Latino" - the second one is just built like a boy.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2734986-foxyroxxxi-Brea-California-SugarBaby
Wants $600 per date.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby
Wants $500 per date.
HollywoodGuy
03-24-14, 20:54
The first one lists her ethnicity as "Latino" - the second one is just built like a boy.Just a sample of a couple time wasters to avoid. So if anyone wonders why a lot of these girls don't reply to their offers, here are 2 good examples.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2734986-foxyroxxxi-Brea-California-SugarBaby
Wants $600 per date.
http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLprofile-2885282-Sun516-GardenGrove-California-SugarBaby
Wants $500 per date.So is it safe to say she created this site?
http://foxyroxxxi.escortbook.com
HollywoodGuy
04-17-14, 12:58
So is it safe to say she created this site?
http://foxyroxxxi.escortbook.comLooks real to me. Just overpriced. If a girl is a 10 in looks I can understand them asking 3 bills, Not that I am going to ever pay that. But it's understandable. This is just a joke. But these girls would rather get lucky once in a while than get out there and work, which tells you they really don't want to be doing this in the first place.
LiquidLavaLove
04-17-14, 18:11
This recent pornstar ex bodybuilder that looks identical to the girl on SD4 me a while ago, had since deleted her profile and went pro, same big clit, built arms, nose everything to the tee. I can't imagine it not being her but maybe someone else. Talia as she went by on SD4 me wanted at least 5 dates a month for 1.5 each visit and was from texas. Don't know if this girl is her but recently Ericka Liu hit me up saying she would see me after I sent her some detalis a WHILE back, major lag and by now I am not mongering and am in a stabilized relationship. Was looking for experience back then and just getting used to the energy females had but pros all have such a business ethic, poor or not, that felt too contrived to be a meaningful thing. Is what it is. The pros that I would see are always way out of my range price wise as I got to keep on the organic track, and use my charms and youth to not have to pay a dime, however when balancing it out between travel time, dinner dates etc. Albeit almost just as expenise you build a lasting meaningful thing w your significant one (s? (for some)).
Peter Johnson
04-18-14, 00:12
Sound advice and well put. I am relatively new to the domestic scene, I see that the p4p game via SB SD platform can to be realized by us "common men".
My friend is a hardworking stiff like me 9-5. He started fowarding emails to me that he was getting from young ladies in need of whatever, any little bit helps when home is hell. Sweet girls too.
Although I am not a rich man, as is most often portrayed in the media as bonafied SD; there is a spot for guys like me with a young lady tht will appreciate my donation for quality time.Very well said and I am just getting into this as well and have been talking to some cool chicks via email and they sound affordable. I like the idea of getting more of a GFE while still not paying $400 or something like that.of course some of the women want that much, but some are without our less bloated budgets.
Very well said and I am just getting into this as well and have been talking to some cool chicks via email and they sound affordable. I like the idea of getting more of a GFE while still not paying $400 or something like that.of course some of the women want that much, but some are without our less bloated budgets.With a true SB and not some pretend pro, you'll be paying less and getting more time. Marathon sessions or overnights for $ with someone that appreciates that $ and your company.
The numbers are always in your favor, so best of luck to you.
John G Smith
04-18-14, 07:33
With a true SB and not some pretend pro, you'll be paying less and getting more time. Marathon sessions or overnights for $ with someone that appreciates that $ and your company.
The numbers are always in your favor, so best of luck to you.Yes it's true being a Sugar Daddy is within the reach of the "common man", I still think it's a good idea to at least give the image that you're fairly well-off. Sometimes the richer you look, the less you have to pay. Okay forget the GPS and Pros. They want ridiculous allowances no matter how you look or what you do. But there's a large segment of SBs (who BTW are still very attractive) who just want to be treated out by a true gentleman and maybe get some help with a few bills or a little spoiling. After all, most of them are tired of their always-broke 20-something boyfriends that never paid for a full meal outside the first date.
So even if you're a "common man", remember your job is still give the allusion that you're a man of means, financial stability, and class. Remember 95% of those girls will never have a "millionaire" sugar daddy who drop 5 k-10 a month on a SB. The rest must settle for far less. But it's all in the presentation. You can give a girl $ and make her feel like your her "white night" and she feels like your baby or you can give her the same $ and make her feel like a cheap prostitute and you're just blue collar creeper spending his Friday paycheck on a cheap thrill.
All about presentation and your attitude. Here are a few tips to make even the "common man" look like a man of means:
- Get yourself a German car. It doesn't even have to be new. There are quite a few used car lots that specialize in used luxury cars. The vast majority of girls couldn't tell the difference between a 2005 Mercedes or a 2012. Just make sure it has a modern dashboard (that can play iPod music) and the paint job and headlights in good condition. Having a luxury car will make the SB feel like she's with someone who has money and she can brag to her friends about it.
- Even if you have a poor fashion sense, get some nice sunglasses, watch, name-brand wallet, or some quality accessory. You better believe girls notice little things like this. And for goodness sakes, make sure you wear clean shoes! Again even if you have poor fashion taste, you want to look more clean cut than her grungy 20-something boyfriends.
- Save the roach motels for the 4th & 5th dates after you've established yourself as a legit SD. Yes with a Non-Pro off CL any 4-walled enclosure will do for the p4 p transaction, but your FC locations with your SB at least initially should give her comfort and make it feel like a secret rendezvous, not a trip to a crackhead no-tell or truck stop for debasement. Once you've gained her comfort and if she's totally cool with going cheap on the hotels to reduce your cost, then maybe it's okay but I would still avoid it if possible.
- Don't just always give cash. Add a gift certificate or gift when you can. It does three things. It reminds her of you long after your hookup. It makes the arrangement feel less transactional. And it gives something for her to brag about to her friends.
- Yes, she will brag to her friends. She won't talk about how she had your cock in her ass and then took a facial, licking up every last teaspoon of your jizz. No she won't tell her friends that. She will tell them how she has a rich sugar daddy who gives her money and gifts, just for giving him companionship and talking. So giving her little things that she can show off to her friends will pay off down the line.
- Don't over exaggerate. If you're middle-management pulling in 50-60 k, don't try to pretend to be a multi-millionaire. Go for the small business owner angle. It gives you prestige, but explains some of your modest living and she won't be constantly asking to see your big mansion or fly to Paris every weekend.
Personally I think there is a difference between being a sugar daddy looking for a sugar baby, and just being a regular guy looking for cheap Non-Pro / UTR bootycall. There's nothing wrong with the latter, but there is a difference. Yes some girls are just looking for no-strings attached pvp for a few $, but if you're seeking more of a personable connection and to make a real impression, then you have to up your game. IMO, if you do this you'll be able to reach a wider variety of girls. Girls you thought were unattainable will be texting / flirting with you daily, eager for the next sex-romp. And these girls won't just sex the next guy who offers $+1 because you'll be giving them something a little more. You'll be giving them the "taste of the finer things in life" which almost every damn SB profile says they want.
Remember the "finer things" is relative. I once bought a girl a $20 meal with full appetizers and desert and she was completely over the moon like I just bought her a $200 meal. You better believe she showed her full appreciation later that evening. Ironically if I just gave her $200, she probably would have spent it on something stupid she normally does and wouldn't experience anything new except getting fucked by an old guy. But the $20 meal gave her a whole new experience she wouldn't have experienced otherwise, and makes fucking an older guy more appealing when she thinks back on it. Also, the less likely she'll feel dirty and flake on you in the future.
I know this is a long post, but I thought it was important to pass this on. Being a "SD" is more attainable than ever before but if you want success then you still have to present yourself like a SD even if you have modest means. I still think we're in the Golden Era of the Sugar Bowl even if there are a lot of GPSs, but I have a feeling it can all get fucked up if too many supposed "SD"s treat the girls like BP prostitutes. All it will take is a few Dateline or Oprah specials saying how a ton of dirty old men are preying upon college girls, sexing innocent little Alice and turning her into a teenage prostitute. Even if SD / SB arrangements aren't illegal, it would make the public more aware of old men with younger women and society would drive these type of arrangements further underground. That's my fear, so it's why I like to help my newer brethren play the Sugar Bowl the right way, so we can play longer.
Christophe1
04-18-14, 11:00
Yes it's true being a Sugar Daddy is within the reach of the "common man", I still think it's a good idea to at least give the image that you're fairly well-off. Sometimes the richer you look, the less you have to pay. Okay forget the GPS and Pros. They want ridiculous allowances no matter how you look or what you do. But there's a large segment of SBs (who BTW are still very attractive) who just want to be treated out by a true gentleman and maybe get some help with a few bills or a little spoiling. After all, most of them are tired of their always-broke 20-something boyfriends that never paid for a full meal outside the first date.
So even if you're a "common man", remember your job is still give the allusion that you're a man of means, financial stability, and class. Remember 95% of those girls will never have a "millionaire" sugar daddy who drop 5 k-10 a month on a SB. The rest must settle for far less. But it's all in the presentation. You can give a girl $ and make her feel like your her "white night" and she feels like your baby or you can give her the same $ and make her feel like a cheap prostitute and you're just blue collar creeper spending his Friday paycheck on a cheap thrill.
All about presentation and your attitude. Here are a few tips to make even the "common man" look like a man of means:
- Get yourself a German car. It doesn't even have to be new. There are quite a few used car lots that specialize in used luxury cars. The vast majority of girls couldn't tell the difference between a 2005 Mercedes or a 2012. Just make sure it has a modern dashboard (that can play iPod music) and the paint job and headlights in good condition. Having a luxury car will make the SB feel like she's with someone who has money and she can brag to her friends about it.
- Even if you have a poor fashion sense, get some nice sunglasses, watch, name-brand wallet, or some quality accessory. You better believe girls notice little things like this. And for goodness sakes, make sure you wear clean shoes! Again even if you have poor fashion taste, you want to look more clean cut than her grungy 20-something boyfriends.
- Save the roach motels for the 4th & 5th dates after you've established yourself as a legit SD. Yes with a Non-Pro off CL any 4-walled enclosure will do for the p4 p transaction, but your FC locations with your SB at least initially should give her comfort and make it feel like a secret rendezvous, not a trip to a crackhead no-tell or truck stop for debasement. Once you've gained her comfort and if she's totally cool with going cheap on the hotels to reduce your cost, then maybe it's okay but I would still avoid it if possible.
- Don't just always give cash. Add a gift certificate or gift when you can. It does three things. It reminds her of you long after your hookup. It makes the arrangement feel less transactional. And it gives something for her to brag about to her friends.
- Yes, she will brag to her friends. She won't talk about how she had your cock in her ass and then took a facial, licking up every last teaspoon of your jizz. No she won't tell her friends that. She will tell them how she has a rich sugar daddy who gives her money and gifts, just for giving him companionship and talking. So giving her little things that she can show off to her friends will pay off down the line.
- Don't over exaggerate. If you're middle-management pulling in 50-60 k, don't try to pretend to be a multi-millionaire. Go for the small business owner angle. It gives you prestige, but explains some of your modest living and she won't be constantly asking to see your big mansion or fly to Paris every weekend.
Personally I think there is a difference between being a sugar daddy looking for a sugar baby, and just being a regular guy looking for cheap Non-Pro / UTR bootycall. There's nothing wrong with the latter, but there is a difference. Yes some girls are just looking for no-strings attached pvp for a few $, but if you're seeking more of a personable connection and to make a real impression, then you have to up your game. IMO, if you do this you'll be able to reach a wider variety of girls. Girls you thought were unattainable will be texting / flirting with you daily, eager for the next sex-romp. And these girls won't just sex the next guy who offers $+1 because you'll be giving them something a little more. You'll be giving them the "taste of the finer things in life" which almost every damn SB profile says they want.
Remember the "finer things" is relative. I once bought a girl a $20 meal with full appetizers and desert and she was completely over the moon like I just bought her a $200 meal. You better believe she showed her full appreciation later that evening. Ironically if I just gave her $200, she probably would have spent it on something stupid she normally does and wouldn't experience anything new except getting fucked by an old guy. But the $20 meal gave her a whole new experience she wouldn't have experienced otherwise, and makes fucking an older guy more appealing when she thinks back on it. Also, the less likely she'll feel dirty and flake on you in the future.
I know this is a long post, but I thought it was important to pass this on. Being a "SD" is more attainable than ever before but if you want success then you still have to present yourself like a SD even if you have modest means. I still think we're in the Golden Era of the Sugar Bowl even if there are a lot of GPSs, but I have a feeling it can all get fucked up if too many supposed "SD"s treat the girls like BP prostitutes. All it will take is a few Dateline or Oprah specials saying how a ton of dirty old men are preying upon college girls, sexing innocent little Alice and turning her into a teenage prostitute. Even if SD / SB arrangements aren't illegal, it would make the public more aware of old men with younger women and society would drive these type of arrangements further underground. That's my fear, so it's why I like to help my newer brethren play the Sugar Bowl the right way, so we can play longer.Great post! Woke up and read this and already have a smile. Not only is it diabolical, but it's educational as well. I think the USA Has close to a 29% under 25 year old unemployment rate. With 1/3 of Americans unemployed and unemployable. And most of those guys are living at home, smoking pot, don't have a car, don't have a job, don't have much social skill past their online gaming, and don't have any motivation to change. That means there are more young girls out there for guys with a little ambition, a little means, and some knowledge. Don't be that other guy.
I don't know any prostitutes, but I know a lot of women that like to have money.
Yes it's true being a Sugar Daddy is within the reach of the "common man", I still think it's a good idea to at least give the image that you're fairly well-off. Sometimes the richer you look, the less you have to pay. Okay forget the GPS and Pros. They want ridiculous allowances no matter how you look or what you do. But there's a large segment of SBs (who BTW are still very attractive) who just want to be treated out by a true gentleman and maybe get some help with a few bills or a little spoiling. After all, most of them are tired of their always-broke 20-something boyfriends that never paid for a full meal outside the first date.
I hope the others that frequent the Richmond SD thread see your post. Lots of good advice and thanks for taking the time to share what you've learned.
I agree that it's important to present the part when going to a M&G. That doesn't mean talk big and act flashy, but also act like a grown ass man and not some man-child that the girls are used to with guys their age. You don't have to spend big $ at a M&G, but ordering / recommending a good drink or even opening the door can be a big difference from what she's used to.
I don't consider myself to have lived in luxury or priviledge, but have learned first hand how the "finer things" really are relative. There may be the POTs who already have a taste for the luxuries in life and need a SD to finance their ways, but there are also plenty of girls who have lived a much more modest life and each new experience is an eye opening one that can show her the value you can add to her life besides the $/ visit.
HollywoodGuy
04-19-14, 00:56
- Get yourself a German car. It doesn't even have to be new. There are quite a few used car lots that specialize in used luxury cars. The vast majority of girls couldn't tell the difference between a 2005 Mercedes or a 2012. Just make sure it has a modern dashboard (that can play iPod music) and the paint job and headlights in good condition. Having a luxury car will make the SB feel like she's with someone who has money and she can brag to her friends about it.I really had to laugh when I read this. When I first started down the SD road it was in a new, somewhat modest truck that I paid about 30 k for. And a lot of young girls love trucks, but I switched to a german car at about half the price just out of happenstance and the comments about my car increased dramatically.
Christophe1
04-19-14, 11:47
I agree that it's important to present the part when going to a M&G. That doesn't mean talk big and act flashy, but also act like a grown ass man and not some man-child that the girls are used to with guys their age. You don't have to spend big $ at a M&G, but ordering / recommending a good drink or even opening the door can be a big difference from what she's used to.
I don't consider myself to have lived in luxury or priviledge, but have learned first hand how the "finer things" really are relative. There may be the POTs who already have a taste for the luxuries in life and need a SD to finance their ways, but there are also plenty of girls who have lived a much more modest life and each new experience is an eye opening one that can show her the value you can add to her life besides the $/ visit.I'll take women I know to get a foot massage. Cost range from .15 to a full body for .30 plus tip. These places are all over and you'd be surprised that most NPs have never even had a massage. Yeah, totally crazy. IMO the best way to introduce someone to the good life. I just took someone here last week. http://www.yelp.com/biz/win-win-spa-san-gabriel.
Win Win. Got to love the name. About 6-7 older Chinese ladies and 2 that were under 30. Don't think extras can be had but I got my extras later. My tech masseuse was the youngest and about 6-7/10. She was a decent masseuse and was climbing up on my back and getting her knees deep into my muscles. She must of only weighed 90 lbs though. She also got her elbows deep into my shoulders where she went to town. I almost let out a whimper but suppressed it as I didn't want to give her the satisfaction of hearing me squirm. She had her covered pussy up on my forehead, on my shoulder, on my feet (yes I noticed and it was steamy). On the flip she rubbed my chest and thighs. Then jumped on top of me in an almost CG position where she worked on my hips. Her hand was "accidentally" rubbing up on the equipment left and right (I wore tighty whiteys). I got a semi and she said, "All done." Don't know if extras can be had, other than the two younger ones, I don't think I would even want to. Out the door feeling great and only .70 lighter.
Put my date to sleep. I woke her up at the hotel though to get mine. Here are some pics from a previous date I had with one of Baldy Cruiser's friends.
I'm such a Manwhore.
Ahh Monica she was a nice hole. Is she still around?
I'll take women I know to get a foot massage. Cost range from .15 to a full body for .30 plus tip. These places are all over and you'd be surprised that most NPs have never even had a massage. Yeah, totally crazy. IMO the best way to introduce someone to the good life. I just took someone here last week. http://www.yelp.com/biz/win-win-spa-san-gabriel.
Win Win. Got to love the name. About 6-7 older Chinese ladies and 2 that were under 30. Don't think extras can be had but I got my extras later. My tech masseuse was the youngest and about 6-7/10. She was a decent masseuse and was climbing up on my back and getting her knees deep into my muscles. She must of only weighed 90 lbs though. She also got her elbows deep into my shoulders where she went to town. I almost let out a whimper but suppressed it as I didn't want to give her the satisfaction of hearing me squirm. She had her covered pussy up on my forehead, on my shoulder, on my feet (yes I noticed and it was steamy). On the flip she rubbed my chest and thighs. Then jumped on top of me in an almost CG position where she worked on my hips. Her hand was "accidentally" rubbing up on the equipment left and right (I wore tighty whiteys). I got a semi and she said, "All done." Don't know if extras can be had, other than the two younger ones, I don't think I would even want to. Out the door feeling great and only .70 lighter.
Put my date to sleep. I woke her up at the hotel though to get mine. Here are some pics from a previous date I had with one of Baldy Cruiser's friends.
I'm such a Manwhore.
Bingo. The gift card is golden. I just tried it on a "dead" lead. Bingo. Amazing!
John is right on track. I have gotten sloppy on certain details. No more. From now on, play the part.
Yes it's true being a Sugar Daddy is within the reach of the "common man", I still think it's a good idea to at least give the image that you're fairly well-off. Sometimes the richer you look, the less you have to pay. Okay forget the GPS and Pros. They want ridiculous allowances no matter how you look or what you do. But there's a large segment of SBs (who BTW are still very attractive) who just want to be treated out by a true gentleman and maybe get some help with a few bills or a little spoiling. After all, most of them are tired of their always-broke 20-something boyfriends that never paid for a full meal outside the first date.
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HollywoodGuy
04-20-14, 00:26
Isn't L.A. Supposed to be one of the SD capitols of the world? I guess most of them would prefer to stay on the DL. I love to see pics. Of real NP's. Lets try to keep it real. I don't know how many UTR and Pro threads there are on this site. I never counted them. I know it's a little tougher. But quality over quantity. The only game I see in the pro world is to talk them down in the price? Maybe get a chefs special? But to turn a girl for the first time, even if that's what they are looking for. At least there is some thrill beyond the physical. Something ethereal.
And I,m not saying I,m all that. And I know a lot of these sweet innocent things are UTR. But sometimes you do get the real thing.
Pinche Gringo
04-20-14, 21:55
I have let my subscriptions run out on both sb4 and arrangements. All I was able attract were not so UTR's. I even had a few HX ladies contact me on the websites to say they were non-pros. I was just too tired of playing detective on those sites. Good luck to you who are still sticking it out.
HollywoodGuy
04-20-14, 22:27
I have let my subscriptions run out on both sb4 and arrangements. All I was able attract were not so UTR's. I even had a few HX ladies contact me on the websites to say they were non-pros. I was just too tired of playing detective on those sites. Good luck to you who are still sticking it out.Yes there is a lot of detective work involved and it does slow down the process. For me in a way that's good, because I have been known to be overly impulsive at times. But sometimes the only way to know for sure is to meet them. But its a good bet that if they are accepting $ the percentage of pros will go down. But a lot of UTR girls will be happy with that amount. I know I get way more responses at that offer than I could ever follow up on.
Pinche Gringo
04-21-14, 01:19
"I know I get way more responses at that offer than I could ever follow up on". I guess it may because I am not a young stud anymore, or maybe I gave up way too fast. Well. If you ever have too many to handle, I would be willing to take a few off your hands!!
Good luck, play safe.
HollywoodGuy
04-21-14, 02:29
"I know I get way more responses at that offer than I could ever follow up on". I guess it may because I am not a young stud anymore, or maybe I gave up way too fast. Well. If you ever have too many to handle, I would be willing to take a few off your hands!!
Good luck, play safe.I'm 60, far from young. And you probably don't give up too fast. You just don't make contact with enough girls. It's a numbers game. Hit up 90 a girls a month and see what happens. 90. Thats only 3 a day, should take about 15 minutes a day. And you can pass around a pro, cuz thats what they do, but you cant really pass around a non pro. It just doesn't work that way. But I feel ya.
That is one beautiful body and cute face.
Had an awesome time with this girl. She said she was retiring from the game due to family reasons. Too bad. Awesome skills and really sweet. I guess she was too sweet to stay a pro. Found her on SD4 M..
HollywoodGuy
04-26-14, 21:29
That is one beautiful body and cute face.
.Yeah, it was heartbreaking. I won't be forgetting about her anytime soon. She really let her guard down with me the first visit. The second was ok but rushed. Then her just txting me I,m sorry it's over. No upsell. Just gone.
HollywoodGuy
04-27-14, 15:11
http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald...udio-clippers/
This babe has gotten at least a million a year for 4 years.
http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald...udio-clippers/
This babe has gotten at least a million a year for 4 years.Jacking up the going rate on us..bastard just couldn't stick to $/ date.
HollywoodGuy
04-29-14, 02:50
I threw out all the POTS phone #'s I had on March 1st. So far I have at least a dozen more that are all DTF. Didn't meet any last month. Met 2 so far this month. One of whom I am in love with already. Hope she feels the same. Most of the others are a far drive. 25 to 50 miles away. If I ever have to downsize my lifestyle I am moving to the SB capitol of the world. Anywhere from Pomona to San Bernardino. An unlimited supply of super hot young black and mixed girls that take a $ all day and all night. Basically unlimited pussy out there. Grateful unlimited pussy.
HollywoodGuy
04-29-14, 11:23
Pomona, fontana, san bernardino, upland, riverside, ontario, rialto, redlands, highland. Anything off the 210 or 10 and east of the 605. Non stop pussy. All at $. All 18 to 24 mixed, black and some latinas. It's really a goldmine out there. Non pro, UTR or pro. They don't care. $ is all they want and are grateful.
Rockhard 441
04-29-14, 15:05
That looks like Lizette...when was the last time you saw her? I know she kept trying to go down south to live with family.
Had an awesome time with this girl. She said she was retiring from the game due to family reasons. Too bad. Awesome skills and really sweet. I guess she was too sweet to stay a pro. Found her on SD4 M.
HollywoodGuy
04-29-14, 15:06
That looks like Lizette...when was the last time you saw her? I know she kept trying to go down south to live with family.Said her name was Shay... 5'2' about 105.
Pomona, fontana, san bernardino, upland, riverside, ontario, rialto, redlands, highland. Anything off the 210 or 10 and east of the 605. Non stop pussy. All at $. All 18 to 24 mixed, black and some latinas. It's really a goldmine out there. Non pro, UTR or pro. They don't care. $ is all they want and are grateful.It was much easier time with the latinas in the I.e. Or the riverside area with the $/ date compared with the girls in o.see.
It's the economics.
HollywoodGuy
05-05-14, 03:13
Is knowing in your heart that you are gods gift to women, but not saying it out loud.
Member #5257
05-07-14, 13:33
I am complete novice to this stream of ptp, so just googled the term after reading some of the comments in this thread.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/advice/tips/sugar-babies
Interesting article but probably raising expectations of potential SBs. 3-day trips with no commitment, clothes every time. I hope cosmo has a small circulation among our target segment.
George1950
05-07-14, 23:28
http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald...udio-clippers/
This babe has gotten at least a million a year for 4 years.Hell she said they never had a sexual relationship. Her face looks like a transexual. Most comments from women on the internet reflect this. The majority think she or he has had surgery and chances are goid she is transgender.
Hell she said they never had a sexual relationship. Her face looks like a transexual. Most comments from women on the internet reflect this. The majority think she or he has had surgery and chances are goid she is transgender.All of her previous names were female going back 10 years, as well as her arrests reports as reported in the media.
Of course she said no sex, she is trying for her 15 min of fame, however knowing a little about Sterling, she was wide open for him.
She will be a very expensive very UTR screw in about 6 months. She is used to living large. Probably 5 K a pop. Call her lawyer for a modeling secession.
George1950
05-08-14, 02:51
All of her previous names were female going back 10 years, as well as her arrests reports as reported in the media.
Of course she said no sex, she is trying for her 15 min of fame, however knowing a little about Sterling, she was wide open for him.
She will be a very expensive very UTR screw in about 6 months. She is used to living large. Probably 5 K a pop. Call her lawyer for a modeling secession.Sterling has always been a fucking cheap bastard. Thirty years ago a friend of mine was doing phone work in his mansion and he tried to get free work done. Probably offered fucking clipper tickets to do something that would have caused my friend to lose his job. Fuck him. He deserves anything bad that happens to him.
HollywoodGuy
05-08-14, 03:22
I am complete novice to this stream of ptp, so just googled the term after reading some of the comments in this thread.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/advice/tips/sugar-babies
Interesting article but probably raising expectations of potential SBs. 3-day trips with no commitment, clothes every time. I hope cosmo has a small circulation among our target segment.Look for the sugar baby thread in richmond virginia on this site. It is a wealth of information. I post there all the time.
Have been cutting right to the chase and being very pinpoint in my areas and types thanks to Hollywoodguy's directions and have been getting a lot of bites. Did have one call me an asshole and the next from another hottie was where do you want to meet? LOL.
HollywoodGuy
05-09-14, 01:03
Have been cutting right to the chase and being very pinpoint in my areas and types thanks to Hollywoodguy's directions and have been getting a lot of bites. Did have one call me an asshole and the next from another hottie was where do you want to meet? LOL.She is a little ghetto, but definitely cute, when they don't send a body shot, as a rule be prepared for a few extra lbs.
This is the body shot she sent, which is almost indecipherable. She has a pic on SD that is a close up and she has amazing eyes. Who knows.
She is a little ghetto, but definitely cute, when they don't send a body shot, as a rule be prepared for a few extra lbs..
HollywoodGuy
05-09-14, 02:53
This is the body shot she sent, which is almost indecipherable. She has a pic on SD that is a close up and she has amazing eyes. Who knows.
.Don't you hate when they block out the midsection, or do the thing where they lean way forward?. Usually an attempt to cover up some baby fat or pooch.
Yeah, but since I look like I am 9 months pregnant who I am to judge? LOL
Don't you hate when they block out the midsection, or do the thing where they lean way forward?. Usually an attempt to cover up some baby fat or pooch..
HollywoodGuy
05-09-14, 21:14
Yeah, but since I look like I am 9 months pregnant who I am to judge? LOL
.But you"re the one that's paying. It's a buyers market out there.
Shark in OC
05-11-14, 09:43
I really had to laugh when I read this. When I first started down the SD road it was in a new, somewhat modest truck that I paid about 30 k for. And a lot of young girls love trucks, but I switched to a german car at about half the price just out of happenstance and the comments about my car increased dramatically.However, the great thing is that it is totally true that most women are too lazy to do their homework. I got a very modestly priced MBZ E550 (I like the v8). However, the car is 5 years old, but has a perfect paint job and interior. Most girls can't tell the difference between my car and a brand new MBZ, even though it is about 1/3 the price of a new car (less than a brand new Honda Accord). And the girls who do know it is an older model think I am just one of those old farts who likes classic cars, and I left my Ferrari at home for the day.
For my sake, I got the 5 year 50,000 mile extended warranty.
It is hard to believe that girls are so stupid they fall down with their legs open over a used car that costs less than their own Honda.
-Shark-.
John G Smith
05-12-14, 08:19
It is hard to believe that girls are so stupid they fall down with their legs open over a used car that costs less than their own Honda.
-Shark-.Haha this is so true. I've been on my share of M&Gs where the girl's new Honda or Toyota was more expensive than my used MBZ. But they still got starry-eyed at my car and spread their legs.
Yes, it's true some of these girls are too lazy to lookup model numbers, but I'll tell you the real reason they don't dig too deep about your car. The reason is, they WANT to believe the fantasy. They want to have a suspension of disbelief. They want to think they're worth of the attention of a mature well-off gentleman driving a 60-70 k luxury car.
Just like we often like to believe that a very friendly cashier or waitress is giving us that extra long smile because we think we're special or handsome in her eye. But most of the time we don't press the issue (by making overt advances) because deep down we know she's just doing her job, likely just trying to get more tips or promotion. Instead to stroke our ego we just keep it at the surface level by thinking yes the cute bank teller definitely had thoughts for doing the nasty in the bank vault after-hours withing digging deep.
These girls are the same way. They have low self-esteem issues and usually come from modest upbringings, that many of them know deep down a real multi-millionaire wouldn't give them a second glance. So as long as you're not an asshole or completely turn them off in some way, they want to believe in you. They want to feel as if they have attracted a man of means. Like any decent hollywood movie, it's all about maintaining a suspension of disbelief. Aside from the GPSs and scammers, most girls will not look too closely or can be deflected rather easily.
In all honesty, probably about 75% of your SB hookups / dates will be short-term, and you'll rarely see them beyond the 2nd or 3rd date. So you can create your own background story, fantasy, or allusion (within reason of course), and most likely she won't be around long enough to ever really sniff through the details of your fiction. But for a couple of dates you'll allow her to live out her fantasy with being with a man of means while you get to bang young college pussy a few times before moving on to the next.
That's why you gain so much more mileage by dressing the part and having a visually matching car. Because in most cases deep down both parties know they're just doing a form of Role-Playing. We just put on our fireman uniform and get in our fire engine, errr I mean put on our designer watches and get in our german cars, we then fit the role-paying fantasy and the girl gets wet and most moist as the Florida everglades. This is why so often with newer girls, the allowance is almost secondary. The allowance is essentially just another prop in the role-playing fantasy like hand-cuffs or cop baton. As long as the allowance meets whatever threshold the girl has to maintain the fantasy, then the role-playing proceeds and she will give you full access to her body and every orifice. Because that's how the SD / SB role-playing goes. And if she doesn't know that, then you have to educate her.
Sometimes looking at things in a different perspective can make all the difference in the world. It's why right now I'm able to hold to a very hot 22 year-old substitute elementary teacher with just 100-140 a week because I spend most of it on gifts. She just loves having a guy giving her gifts every single week, even if the total dollar value is modest. After all, what boyfriend or husband buys their woman gifts every single week? It doesn't happen, unless they were cheating on them. So with this girl, I was fortunate that she didn't have overly lavish tastes, so I simply had to dress nicely, be a gentleman, and give her modest but well-thought out gifts weekly and that was enough for her to feel she had her own sugar daddy. So for now, the role-playing is going well and should continue to do so until one of us gets bored.
For Pros and UTRs, we're basically just a means for the girls to pay their bills or get high. But for Non-Pros and SBs specifically, we are means to fulfill a role-playing fantasy.
HollywoodGuy
05-12-14, 12:12
Haha this is so true. I've been on my share of M&Gs where the girl's new Honda or Toyota was more expensive than my used MBZ. But they still got starry-eyed at my car and spread their legs.
Yes, it's true some of these girls are too lazy to lookup model numbers, but I'll tell you the real reason they don't dig too deep about your car. The reason is, they WANT to believe the fantasy. They want to have a suspension of disbelief. They want to think they're worth of the attention of a mature well-off gentleman driving a 60-70 k luxury car.
Just like we often like to believe that a very friendly cashier or waitress is giving us that extra long smile because we think we're special or handsome in her eye. But most of the time we don't press the issue (by making overt advances) because deep down we know she's just doing her job, likely just trying to get more tips or promotion. Instead to stroke our ego we just keep it at the surface level by thinking yes the cute bank teller definitely had thoughts for doing the nasty in the bank vault after-hours withing digging deep.
These girls are the same way. They have low self-esteem issues and usually come from modest upbringings, that many of them know deep down a real multi-millionaire wouldn't give them a second glance. So as long as you're not an asshole or completely turn them off in some way, they want to believe in you. They want to feel as if they have attracted a man of means. Like any decent hollywood movie, it's all about maintaining a suspension of disbelief. Aside from the GPSs and scammers, most girls will not look too closely or can be deflected rather easily.
In all honesty, probably about 75% of your SB hookups / dates will be short-term, and you'll rarely see them beyond the 2nd or 3rd date. So you can create your own background story, fantasy, or allusion (within reason of course), and most likely she won't be around long enough to ever really sniff through the details of your fiction. But for a couple of dates you'll allow her to live out her fantasy with being with a man of means while you get to bang young college pussy a few times before moving on to the next.
That's why you gain so much more mileage by dressing the part and having a visually matching car. Because in most cases deep down both parties know they're just doing a form of Role-Playing. We just put on our fireman uniform and get in our fire engine, errr I mean put on our designer watches and get in our german cars, we then fit the role-paying fantasy and the girl gets wet and most moist as the Florida everglades. This is why so often with newer girls, the allowance is almost secondary. The allowance is essentially just another prop in the role-playing fantasy like hand-cuffs or cop baton. As long as the allowance meets whatever threshold the girl has to maintain the fantasy, then the role-playing proceeds and she will give you full access to her body and every orifice. Because that's how the SD / SB role-playing goes. And if she doesn't know that, then you have to educate her.
Sometimes looking at things in a different perspective can make all the difference in the world. It's why right now I'm able to hold to a very hot 22 year-old substitute elementary teacher with just 100-140 a week because I spend most of it on gifts. She just loves having a guy giving her gifts every single week, even if the total dollar value is modest. After all, what boyfriend or husband buys their woman gifts every single week? It doesn't happen, unless they were cheating on them. So with this girl, I was fortunate that she didn't have overly lavish tastes, so I simply had to dress nicely, be a gentleman, and give her modest but well-thought out gifts weekly and that was enough for her to feel she had her own sugar daddy. So for now, the role-playing is going well and should continue to do so until one of us gets bored.
For Pros and UTRs, we're basically just a means for the girls to pay their bills or get high. But for Non-Pros and SBs specifically, we are means to fulfill a role-playing fantasy.Love this info. So true but its nice to get some positive reinforcement on my tactics.
The UTR girl I saw last night was telling me she was getting six bills a meet from one sexually disfunctional obese SD. I sensed her lonelyness and insecurity in the FC. Then explained why I was only going to pay her $ a visit. So now I get to be her PT BF while she gathers up some tricks to pay the bills. And I play my role till it ends. Like you say very quickly or maybe a few months.
HollywoodGuy
05-20-14, 22:45
Profile Name. HazelEyes4 yoou.
Went and saw her last night. Long freakin drive from hollywood. She has a kick ass body and pretty cute. Not the submissive type but gave me what I needed in the end. Hadn't had sex in a few days due to my pursuit of an unwilling NP. This one is past her NP status but did do what I asked after some teasing. You need to have some game or a little xtra coin for this one. 5'8" and 122 lbs. Nice see cups. All natural and young.
HollywoodGuy
05-20-14, 22:48
Profile Name on SD4 M. Envy213.
She already turned down my offer of a $. No big surprise. Can someone offer her 2 bills? I just want to see if she bites.
HollywoodGuy
05-29-14, 03:20
There are way more girls in the last week or so responding.
HeartofaLion
05-29-14, 06:58
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