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HollywoodGuy
12-13-18, 00:42
With over 1,000 guys reading this thread, you think it would get more posts.
With over 1,000 guys reading this thread, you think it would get more posts.Hey HG, I just come here to live through your conquests vicariously, LOL. Keep them coming. You're doing great, and giving the rest of us hope. I'd post my experience, but my 4-month stint on SA resulted in absolute zero, zip, zilch, nada, squat, and a ton of frustration. If one day I manage to bag a SB, you'll read my report here.
Mr. Hollywood Guy:
I just stumbled onto this thread and started reading from the beginning since I like to know at least some background of what I'm reading. That time warp took me back to 2012. I read quite a few pages and then skipped forward to the present.
Thanks for the education. The guy who said if you started a class on this stuff people would flock to it was dead on.
My eyes are bleeding, and I'm pretty sure I'm going blind now, so one thing I missed when I passed through the wormhole to the present; what became of the SD4 M site you used back then? It seems you favor SA now?
Thanks again for all the tips!
Background
Been reading this and the Richmond thread since after SB2. Here is my 1st month's report.
I'm on the younger end of the age scale, higher end of the sugar scale, and middle road on looks. Struggled a bit in civvie dating when younger, but I am much more confident now. Had a 10 yr haitus w / a warden who recently quit / fired. . . And I'm in the candy store.
"Not-SoCal" means I frequent another state to one particular location.
Bought Monkey Brain book, haven't read yet.
SBs
SB1 - SoCal 26 blk looks-7, NANDO-2 / UTR. Messy apartment w / no furniture in living room and another couple leaving as we enter. Fun, but too professional for me.
SB2 - SoCal 19 wht looks-8+ midwest blonde, seemed inexperienced. I think a Nando-2 with a touch of Nando-3 because:
PPM quoted before meet.
we dispensed w / plan for drinks before sitting down, direct to FC.
later texts she (booker?) f'd up and didn't recall parts of in-person convo.
Odd part is that she (booker?) keeps texting me as if SB? I rarely reply, though would repeat if I already have room paid for (this weekend!
** started reading USASG after SB2 ** learned my lesson.
SB3 - Not-SoCal 21 mixed looks-8, thin, perfect+perfect ass. I think Nando3, possibly N2, certainly utr if N2. Did a hot baton dance for me in FC before festivities. While doggy the stench of yeast infection just killed it. Would repeat if fixed and I laid down a few rules of my own.
SB4 - Not-SoCal 20 wht WHOLLY-NANDO-1, actually picked her up at her trailer park. A little thick and dumber than a rock. BLS like it was her last meal, no repeat.
SB5 - Not-SoCal 23 why NANDO-5 BINGO!! Delicious thin wonderful larger tatas and a perfect figure, we got along perfectly, sore pubic bone! She sang me sexy songs in the buff while playing a musical instrument. She's been an SB for a few yrs and has regular job, removed her profile after first meet. We text every day, she sends me nudes nearly every day, and it feels like it's becoming some sort of love affair. . . QUESTION?? I've heard you guys warn against emotional attachment. What are the dangers? How to avoid? She said her GF is also an SB and they had thought about posting together. So I'm sure if I ask about that, the affection will subdue a bit (and 50% chance she'll grant my request).
POTS
I've got a bunch of irons in the fire, in order of likely future meet, and only if meet likelihood at least 50%.
POT 1 - SoCal 19 hsp thin, meet Thr, she's traveling a ways to meet me so I think she's eager, I'd give 75% chance of showing.
POT 2 - SoCal 26 brazil medium, meet Fri (after traffic per her request), likely PITA but I need the practice, 60% chance of showing.
POT 3 - SoCal 26 wht small looks-7, 1 kid, meet Sat at FC - 99% chance she'll show.
POT 4 - Not-SoCal 25 wht HYB easily the hottest (real) girl I've seen on sites, probably closer to 25% chance here, but had to mention as I'd drop about everything else (except SB-5). Likely GPS, but I might go for it anyway.
POT 5 - Not-SoCal 20 wht HCB NANDO-4/5 !! - this one is going to take a lot of work! Thin beautiful sorority hard worker (late night on-campus job). We text nearly every day, can't see her until back to Not-SoCal. She made clear the she "isn't going to prostitute herself" but doesn't like college frat guys but could use some $ help. This one is going to be like courting a HCB civvie. My plan is to keep the "friendly" conversation going while staying well outside the friend zone, then start heating it up 3-4 days before meet which is probably about 2. 5 weeks from now. ALL SUGGESTIONS HERE ARE APPRECIATED !.
OBSERVATIONS
A lot of conversations get started, but drop off and difficult to recover. Often even after they get to text.
A lot of girls refuse to go to text and are just slow as shit to respond on the site.
A lot of them say "yes" when asked to meet and even start to make plans, but it's nearly obvious they have no intention to meet, and then drop off as the day approaches. I think I'm not getting far enough with them (emotionally?) before I ask for the meet. Which is made more difficult by their very slow and sporadic responses, by then the initial interest has worn off. Also made more difficult by the fact that some are just looking for PPM (which I'd do with HxB) and others will sting you if they think you are looking for PPM. I'm open to both but really looking for a few SB / Nando5.
QUESTION
I need to get a "scammer warning" out early in the convo (profile, initial, or after they msg back) but I don't want to be a negative or turn off. I can write it light heartedly enough, but wondering the best stage to put it at (scammers don't read profiles, so likely not there) - so initial message or wait until they respond?
My not so new little girl - photo shoot. 18 - 5'4" - 105Damn dude!
Cabsauv1997
12-13-18, 13:16
"Bought Monkey Brain book, haven't read yet. ".
What's the title of this book? Several on Amazon that could be relevant.
"Bought Monkey Brain book, haven't read yet. ".
What's the title of this book? Several on Amazon that could be relevant.The Chimp Paradox: recommended in Richmond blog http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3844471&highlight=chimp+paradox#post3844471.
If you read it before I and care to offer the cliff notes.
HollywoodGuy
12-13-18, 16:16
Mr. Hollywood Guy:
I just stumbled onto this thread and started reading from the beginning since I like to know at least some background of what I'm reading. That time warp took me back to 2012. I read quite a few pages and then skipped forward to the present.
Thanks for the education. The guy who said if you started a class on this stuff people would flock to it was dead on.
My eyes are bleeding, and I'm pretty sure I'm going blind now, so one thing I missed when I passed through the wormhole to the present; what became of the SD4 M site you used back then? It seems you favor SA now?
Thanks again for all the tips!SA seeking is just a better site.
NobodyYouKnow
12-13-18, 16:47
I have a burner phone for playing in the bowl, but my other phone is loaded w a FMF app and my kid and SO can locate me now.
What is the best way to avoid being tracked while going out to drinks and date in Notel? Leave the phone at work / gym or turn the phone off is not feasible. I can turn share my location off but will they get a alert / message when I do that, or it will simply show as my phone is off / no battery etc- which is easier to explain.
I bet this FMF app must have caused a tons of devoice😉.
Any input or suggestions.And as the author suggests, test it out first. https://micahflee.com/2015/11/some-thoughts-on-faraday-bags-and-operational-security/.
LessnessMan14
12-13-18, 21:21
Not having found those others (and just posted in the Richmond thread w / the question), can you describe using a Google Pay (not play?) card to pay for a membership on SA? Is the card available without personal info?It's just the Google Play (I think that's the name) gift card you can buy at any store. You then load that into the android app store. Now you have say $100 in the app store. If the SA is loaded onto the android phone (or the emulator like I did) you can now pay for a month of SA with the Google Play credit. No personal info needed.
HollywoodGuy
12-14-18, 04:26
weekend roundup
1 - please jesus I promise to be good
2 - hard to read, but we are messaging
3 - still in the game, she can't make up her mind
4 - messages here and there, iffy, lives super close to me
5 - still in the game, says she is down but lives a bit far
6 - UTR tinder girl - may see her tomorrow also kinda far
also a few UTR's not pictured.. just easy pickings.. not cute enough to post... lol
HollywoodGuy
12-14-18, 12:06
I do not share girls phone numbers. Although sometimes I wil post a "seeking" profile link in this thread. In the SB world you are basically on your own. Other threads happily share info usually to senior members, and more often to ones that share back or post a lot.
HollywoodGuy
12-14-18, 22:12
So I finally figures it out. If you see the blocked sign and it says Sugar Baby, that means they canceled their account. If you see the blocked sign and its says their name, that means the account is still active and they just blocked your profile specifically.
Hey HG, I just come here to live through your conquests vicariously, LOL. Keep them coming. You're doing great, and giving the rest of us hope. I'd post my experience, but my 4-month stint on SA resulted in absolute zero, zip, zilch, nada, squat, and a ton of frustration. If one day I manage to bag a SB, you'll read my report here.The last one I was with was the same sugar baby that could not get her act together. Guess it happens when you're 18. Finally got her. Picked her up at 11 pm. Gave me the roundabout and was about to call it a night when I finally picked her up. Drove her home and spent the next 4 hours doing every position and every hole. Absolutely worth the effort I went through. Ill post some pictures as she was totally fine with pictures and video. Total screamer and had to shush her so as not to wake up the entire neighborhood.
HollywoodGuy
12-14-18, 23:35
If you like the tall athletic type, it doesn't really get any better than this.
https://www.seeking.com/member/370add69-afab-4440-86db-7876ebf2c99c
HollywoodGuy
12-14-18, 23:48
The last one I was with was the same sugar baby that could not get her act together. Guess it happens when you're 18. Finally got her. Picked her up at 11 pm. Gave me the roundabout and was about to call it a night when I finally picked her up. Drove her home and spent the next 4 hours doing every position and every hole. Absolutely worth the effort I went through. Ill post some pictures as she was totally fine with pictures and video. Total screamer and had to shush her so as not to wake up the entire neighborhood.Like an entire photo spread please.
FarFarAway
12-15-18, 02:14
It's just the Google Play (I think that's the name) gift card you can buy at any store. You then load that into the android app store. Now you have say $100 in the app store. If the SA is loaded onto the android phone (or the emulator like I did) you can now pay for a month of SA with the Google Play credit. No personal info needed.Thank you. That may help others, or me next time. In the interim, I could not restrain myself, so I tried what I usually do. A Visa Vanilla Gift card, bought at my local pharmacy, a prepaid debit card I load with cash, and the $6 fee. I put $100 on it, got on the website and added the ZIP code of my fake sugar address, and it went through seeking.com with no problem. I had heard others having problems paying for seeking lately, just wanted to check. Note that I have $10 left on my card I can use for burner minutes, but seeking can't charge another month's membership to it when my current one lapses.
HollywoodGuy
12-15-18, 11:06
Thank you. That may help others, or me next time. In the interim, I could not restrain myself, so I tried what I usually do. A Visa Vanilla Gift card, bought at my local pharmacy, a prepaid debit card I load with cash, and the $6 fee. I put $100 on it, got on the website and added the ZIP code of my fake sugar address, and it went through seeking.com with no problem. I had heard others having problems paying for seeking lately, just wanted to check. Note that I have $10 left on my card I can use for burner minutes, but seeking can't charge another month's membership to it when my current one lapses.Good show.
FarFarAway
12-15-18, 12:39
I note here in SoCal that I run into quite a few women who are Russian / Ukrainian, or European of some flavor. Mostly the older ones, 30's. I am guessing the taboo of arrangements aren't so significant in their cultures. I have interacted w / 4 Russians, FC w / 3. They have a reputation for being kinda mercenary / cold, and I see that attitude in some.
There is one you see all the time on SA, a model. She is stunning, and I M&G w / her. At the end, she asked if I wanted to FC at 800 per, and she would host. I had no interest as we had no chemistry.
Another was a fitness model and university graduate. Amazing body, perfect natural firm 38 Ds, sexted me all the time, highly responsive. Very nice person, never a hint of mercenary. I'd still be w / her if I hadn't gotten busted by the SO.
Another was married, evidently a mail-order bride who got K'd up and wanted to stay w / hubby for the kid's sake. Very slender and beautiful, smart. She was either the most sexually responsive woman I've ever fucked, or the greatest actress, b / c she pretty much came continuously. Great for the ego. I'd classify her as a UTR, though. She was nice, but no real connection. I made a mistake offering her too much initially, and when I pleaded financial setbacks and a desire to economize, she offered no flexibility. She's still on the site, in the IE, I can PM her profile.
Another mail order bride was divorced and working locally, hosted at her place. I'd say it was more like the escort experience than a GF experience. Looks good on the site, much less so in person.
HollywoodGuy
12-16-18, 02:07
I like to keep my little girl on a short leash.
DavidTheSancho
12-16-18, 05:43
I do not share girls phone numbers. Although sometimes I wil post a "seeking" profile link in this thread. In the SB world you are basically on your own. Other threads happily share info usually to senior members, and more often to ones that share back or post a lot.I'm still oogling at that Latina chick you posted a while back. Still seeing her?
Also curious, has anyone on here ever had a late time of the month scare with a sb?
HollywoodGuy
12-16-18, 11:49
I'm still oogling at that Latina chick you posted a while back. Still seeing her?
Also curious, has anyone on here ever had a late time of the month scare with a sb?I am not really "seeing" anyone these days. Just my GF and my "not so new little girl". I am always looking, but normally I just do a lot of one or two night stands until I find the next "it girl".
Geneva Guy
12-16-18, 15:01
I like to keep my little girl on a short leash.HG.
I thought you were a BBFS guy, the beauty of SA girls!
GG.
JohnRichard
12-16-18, 19:58
I was wondering how people with late model high end vehicles avoid the issue of their vehicles being tracked.
Our Tesla can be tracked by everyone in the household on a smartphone. Fortunately SO drives it, so it has not been a concern for me so far.
Considering a new vehicle for myself but I am worried that today's vehicles can be easily tracked with their manufacturer apps.
Any thoughts? Has anyone seen a listing of which vehicles can be tracked with their apps? Are there ways to turn off tracking without being noticed for few hours?
JohnRichard
12-16-18, 20:13
I like to keep my little girl on a short leash.And I don't see no raincoats there. Even better.
I was wondering how people with late model high end vehicles avoid the issue of their vehicles being tracked.
Our Tesla can be tracked by everyone in the household on a smartphone. Fortunately SO drives it, so it has not been a concern for me so far.
Considering a new vehicle for myself but I am worried that today's vehicles can be easily tracked with their manufacturer apps.
Any thoughts? Has anyone seen a listing of which vehicles can be tracked with their apps? Are there ways to turn off tracking without being noticed for few hours?Go to safety and security and turn off mobile access that will turn off tracking.
But people will know you turn it off.
I had the same problem plus I got bored of the tesla so I got rid of it and got a 2018 M3.
HollywoodGuy
12-16-18, 21:57
I was wondering how people with late model high end vehicles avoid the issue of their vehicles being tracked.
Our Tesla can be tracked by everyone in the household on a smartphone. Fortunately SO drives it, so it has not been a concern for me so far.
Considering a new vehicle for myself but I am worried that today's vehicles can be easily tracked with their manufacturer apps.
Any thoughts? Has anyone seen a listing of which vehicles can be tracked with their apps? Are there ways to turn off tracking without being noticed for few hours?Any tech geeks on this thread?
Arisvangua
12-17-18, 02:22
Another was a fitness model and university graduate. Amazing body, perfect natural firm 38 Ds, sexted me all the time, highly responsive. Very nice person, never a hint of mercenary. I'd still be w / her if I hadn't gotten busted by the SO.
Another was married, evidently a mail-order bride who got K'd up and wanted to stay w / hubby for the kid's sake. Very slender and beautiful, smart. She was either the most sexually responsive woman I've ever fucked, or the greatest actress, b / c she pretty much came continuously. Great for the ego. I'd classify her as a UTR, though. She was nice, but no real connection. I made a mistake offering her too much initially, and when I pleaded financial setbacks and a desire to economize, she offered no flexibility. She's still on the site, in the IE, I can PM her profile.
I'm in town for a week. I'll see if I can work a deal with these two.
I'm still oogling at that Latina chick you posted a while back. Still seeing her?
Also curious, has anyone on here ever had a late time of the month scare with a sb?I luv Latina girls. Which one are you talking about. I must have missed that post. Was she good?
My wife and I both drive tesla. Both cars have remote access with cool shits, but you can track location even when moving. Obviously bad for our hobby.
So I had to turn it off. She didn't object cause I showed articles about how hackers can get into car's system via remote access. She is kind of clueless about tech.
But the problem was my son who is into cars and he turned it on my wife's car without telling me. Luckily he didn't touch mine LOL.
When it comes to the service center, there is nothing you can do about it. As far as I know. They can access the car even when you have bad cell connection so if wife calls them saying she is worried about your well being and blah blah. You better have a good excuse.
Any tech geeks on this thread?
BoulderBoy
12-17-18, 16:21
If you like the tall athletic type, it doesn't really get any better than this.
https://www.seeking.com/member/370add69-afab-4440-86db-7876ebf2c99cGood God. That's hot. I'm jealous of those of you who have figured the SD thing out and have the money to spend on the membership, etc. If any of you are inspired to share any of your friends with me let me know! LOL.
Yup, it does indeed take time and money to get to F / S with a girl from a hostess club. Sometimes you can make quite a bit of an investment with little return. That said, when it pays off (which more often than not it does) the return on the investment is well worth the time and money.
Only thing that comes close to the level of intimacy I've experienced from a hostess is finding an actual Sugar Baby on SA. Depending on the girl, I think hostess clubs could be cheaper than an SB but given the smaller number of clubs that may not be true anymore (less girls = higher prices). However if anonymity is important to you, hostess clubs are the way to go. Way too exposed on SA unless you invest in a burner phone, Prepaid credit card (for site membership which is way too high relative to 5/6 years ago- when I was doing SBs.), etc. Unless your stupid or don't care about anonymity, hostess clubs and extras are cash transactions so compromising your privacy shouldn't be as much of an issue.
For me, anonymity and a higher level of intimacy are what I want. Can't get the level of intimacy I want from a LMP or AMP and SA isn't anonymous enough for me which makes what's left of the hostess scene more attractive. Plus, as you mentioned, the thrill of the hunt is part of the fun too! Nothing beats the rush I get when a hostess who normally doesn't "date" gives in and the fun that starts when my investment pays off- how wet they get, the actual moans...
Still I spent way too much for a lot less than I wanted on my last trip to Fantasy so it may be time to dip back into SA and the sugar bowl. Could be time to brush up on burner phones, prepaid cards etc. LOL.I want to give SA a try and try my luck there. But anonymity is important to me.
How was your experience with sugar babies? Is it worth it?
Spent the entire morning looking at all the lovely women on the site. A number of POT but many seem to be upping the initial meet costs. Trying to find the young ones who don't know what to ask for. A few pros willing to meet for the minimum. Stringing some a long to see if there will be a reward. May try and focus on unique ones and spend a bit more. It certainly is a lot of work but it has always been rewarding in the long run.
I even offered her $1.5. No reply.She agreed to 2. 5 for a massage. Still too high but wow.
I note here in SoCal that I run into quite a few women who are Russian / Ukrainian, or European of some flavor. Mostly the older ones, 30's. I am guessing the taboo of arrangements aren't so significant in their cultures. I have interacted w / 4 Russians, FC w / 3. They have a reputation for being kinda mercenary / cold, and I see that attitude in some.
There is one you see all the time on SA, a model. She is stunning, and I M&G w / her. At the end, she asked if I wanted to FC at 800 per, and she would host. I had no interest as we had no chemistry.
Another was a fitness model and university graduate. Amazing body, perfect natural firm 38 Ds, sexted me all the time, highly responsive. Very nice person, never a hint of mercenary. I'd still be w / her if I hadn't gotten busted by the SO.
Another was married, evidently a mail-order bride who got K'd up and wanted to stay w / hubby for the kid's sake. Very slender and beautiful, smart. She was either the most sexually responsive woman I've ever fucked, or the greatest actress, b / c she pretty much came continuously. Great for the ego. I'd classify her as a UTR, though. She was nice, but no real connection. I made a mistake offering her too much initially, and when I pleaded financial setbacks and a desire to economize, she offered no flexibility. She's still on the site, in the IE, I can PM her profile.
Another mail order bride was divorced and working locally, hosted at her place. I'd say it was more like the escort experience than a GF experience. Looks good on the site, much less so in person.Would love to know the IE profile. Let me know and I can trade a few in OC / LBC. Mostly HEH, but some quality attempts there.
Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
12-19-18, 02:51
She agreed to 2. 5 for a massage. Still too high but wow.Too much. $$.5 for a HJ, but with enough game it could be the full monty. 50/50 on that. I spend what I can afford. When I get rich I will spend more.
Planned my whole day around seeing my girl at 4 pm today. She flakes and then wants me to come get her at 11 tonite. These girls don't always get that some people have an 8-4 life M-F. Go to bed on time and get up early. And getting mad isn't the solution. But it still sucks.I always tell myself "If they were super reliable people they probably wouldn't need the site" LOL.
HollywoodGuy
12-19-18, 10:37
I always tell myself "If they were super reliable people they probably wouldn't need the site" LOL.For sure some are more reliable than others. But you definitely have to make allowances (no pun intended).
They are all out there but I never get interest. Would love to experience that. Anyone who has had success and has some advice, I welcome it. I do fine with AF's and Latina's.
DavidTheSancho
12-21-18, 04:15
So I joked around with a girl I know about having a arrangement together, she said she could never do that no matter how rich the guy was. She respects herself too much. Fast forward two weeks later, we are hanging out and she asks me for 50 bucks to help complete her rent to move into a new place. End up in the fc that night and I gave her 40 bucks. The logic baffles me.
They are all out there but I never get interest. Would love to experience that. Anyone who has had success and has some advice, I welcome it. I do fine with AF's and Latina's.Abgs! Asian baby girls LOL, no luck here with them either since I started in 2014. White girls, latinas, and ebonys only. I've been close with several of them but they always seem to flake last minute or want redicilous allowances.
They are all out there but I never get interest. Would love to experience that. Anyone who has had success and has some advice, I welcome it. I do fine with AF's and Latina's.Pay more money. You're not going to get many Asians offering $ as Asians tend to command a higher allowance than AFs and Latinas. In general, you'd probably get a lower-end Asian for $$. Average Asians start at $$$ and the higher end ones are looking for $$ and up.
HollywoodGuy
12-21-18, 09:29
Pay more money. You're not going to get many Asians offering $ as Asians tend to command a higher allowance than AFs and Latinas. In general, you'd probably get a lower-end Asian for $$. Average Asians start at $$$ and the higher end ones are looking for $$ and up.I agree. The last one I had was $$$$$ per date and didn't even really do that. She was more the monthly allowance and pay her tuition type. I just caught her in a weird mood, she was feeling a little frisky and let me hit it for .8, one time and then politely declined my future request. (sometimes timing is everything). I am sure I wrote about it a couple months back. Had a 4 hour session. Just the luck of the irish.
I want to give SA a try and try my luck there. But anonymity is important to me.
How was your experience with sugar babies? Is it worth it?My experience was pretty good- but as I mentioned anonymity is important to me and the risk is far too great for me.
I would join for 3 months at a time and the numbers of girls available is a bit overwhelming. It definitely takes work weeding out the true NP SB's from pros or UTR girls. In my experience the numbers of Pros outnumbers the true SB's by at least 5 to 1- but (once you figure the game out) it's not too hard sorting them out. Plenty of flakes, girls selling photos or wanting Skype "dates" and scammers. Thankfully there are so many girls to choose from that its no big deal passing on the ones that aren't working out.
I typically dated around 3 or 4 girls a month (which was 9 to 12 girls per 3 month membership). GF quality intimacy was a given and the average I spent was around 2 per date. I paid one girl 3.5 (talked her down from 5) - which is the most I've paid but sooooo worth it. I would usually connect with 50 or 60 girls during my 3 month membership, weed out the obvious fakes, scammers and pros then let my membership expire. It took a while to sort through the rest but eventually I narrowed it down to the girls I was interested in persuing. After that it took work to proceed and I would eventually date a few (way too expensive to date them all LOL).
Some girls are unrealistic by demanding 10.00(!) or more a month or over 1.00 per date. There are also those who won't commit to intimacy until she's dated you at least 3 or 4 times (at 3 or more per date) - then disappear or flake when she is expected to put out. I never fell for that because the scam is so obvious. There are also those who want money deposited in an online account or western union before the date- which is a recipe to get ripped off. If you get that vibe move on to the next girl.
My preference is Latinas aged 18 - 24 but I also dated white girls. A couple said absolutely no sex but I learned that they were cool with other stuff as long as there was no penetration. One 19 yr old white girl loved to 69 and, while I would have loved to fuck her, I was cool with her limits LOL Half the fun was the chase and getting a girl so sexually aroused that she moved up a level or 2.
The negatives are some girls want to know your real name, job, marital status, address etc; some girls want bank information or access to funds, social media accounts etc. None of that is cool with me.
There are plenty of college girls on there who want discretion as much as I do so it isn't too difficult to find a girl who contacts you minimally and doesn't mind you contacting her only when you want to see her- but even that can be risky. I dated the cutest Latina a couple of times. In her early 20's, tight body (yoga!) and pretty face- only to find out (in a roundabout way) that we work for the same organization. She's a true nonpro but hell if I'm going to throw my career away for a fling- I was so lucky that it never blew up in my face. Its been 4 or 5 years and she left the company a while back but I was pretty worried for a minute there.
The risk is just not worth it for me. A burner phone, email solely for SA action, prepaid CC's etc helps but its not full proof. Like I've mentioned, its been at least 5 years and it was a lot of fun with really good times fooling around with girls I could never score otherwise (being honest) but ultimately the risk is simply too great for me.
HollywoodGuy
12-22-18, 00:02
Booty Lovers?
https://www.seeking.com/member/cb44b834-b90d-467a-9a72-ee60b1ee5224
Asking $$ for intimacy.
HollywoodGuy
12-22-18, 00:34
GF quality intimacy was a given and the average I spent was around 2 per date. There are also those who won't commit to intimacy until she's dated you at least 3 or 4 times (at 3 or more per date) - then disappear or flake when she is expected to put out. I never fell for that because the scam is so obvious.
A couple said absolutely no sex but I learned that they were cool with other stuff as long as there was no penetration. Half the fun was the chase and getting a girl so sexually aroused that she moved up a level or 2.I shortened your message to the relevant sections. In total agreement here except my average is $ a date. But like you say the chase is half the fun and getting them to move up a level or two. If they don't, I just move on after the first and def after the second date.
Booty Lovers?
https://www.seeking.com/member/cb44b834-b90d-467a-9a72-ee60b1ee5224
Asking $$ for intimacy.Fairly sure half her pics aren't hers. The body pics are from Alexandra Johns (https://www.instagram.com/alexxjohns) but the face pics are a different person who looks similar but a little younger.
DavidTheSancho
12-23-18, 01:38
Fairly sure half her pics aren't hers. The body pics are from Alexandra Johns (https://www.instagram.com/alexxjohns) but the face pics are a different person who looks similar but a little younger.Yeah I was texting her a a month or two back. She was sending me different body than face pics as well so it's pretty sketch. Either a scam or a pro utr.
HollywoodGuy
12-23-18, 13:49
Pretty young (19) white girl, says she just wants to civi date to get started. I guess anything is possible. Seems legit based on our convos.
Yeah I was texting her a a month or two back. She was sending me different body than face pics as well so it's pretty sketch. Either a scam or a pro utr.And just like that, she's gone!
HollywoodGuy
12-23-18, 21:06
It kills me to know I already have her at $$. Now I have to get her to $.
HollywoodGuy
12-24-18, 03:27
It kills me to know I already have her at $$. Now I have to get her to $.Of course she never messaged back. So I had to soothe my hurt feelings with an average looking UTR.
I didn't have much going on today and got a call from a UTR that had been wanting to see me. So her good timing led to a quick but satisfying romp at the no-tel. I had her meet me right there and she drove alone. One thing about UTR's, they usually have decent skills, maybe not awesome, but decent (and sometimes they will blow you away). And she fell right into the decent category. Probably never see her again but you never know.
The thing about paying a $ a date is that even if you just have a B quality session you go away feeling good about it. And tonite was just like that. Easy peasy, no drama, on time and with a good finish.
HollywoodGuy
12-26-18, 17:45
Spent Christmas with my not so new little girl. She came over dressed to impress.
Old School 62
12-26-18, 20:45
Spent Christmas with my not so new little girl. She came over dressed to impress.Nice. Does she do BB CIP? Looking for someone while I'm in LA.
HollywoodGuy
12-27-18, 00:04
Nice. Does she do BB CIP? Looking for someone while I'm in LA.Trust me... you can't afford her. She is GPS
Spent Christmas with my not so new little girl. She came over dressed to impress.HG. You are a god among men.
Spent Christmas with my not so new little girl. She came over dressed to impress.Hope she is as fun as she is hot!
HollywoodGuy
12-27-18, 18:02
Tranny?
https://www.seeking.com/member/5094da78-b135-47c4-b39f-195acc26ee72
HollywoodGuy
12-27-18, 18:05
Nice. Does she do BB CIP? Looking for someone while I'm in LA.Think in terms of half a G to a G to get started.
Think in terms of half a G to a G to get started.Iyou can find a bunch of girls that look like her and better in Inglewood south central gardena that will gladly accept a two piece Popeye combo and do whatever you want. As long as your happy I guess. But she's robbing you blindly, a grand. I'm IN AWE.
Tranny?
https://www.seeking.com/member/5094da78-b135-47c4-b39f-195acc26ee72Looks that way to me. Jeez, it would be very bad form if it is to not disclose it on the profile.
HollywoodGuy
12-27-18, 19:31
They're always interested after the intro letter. Want to do the M&G etc. But I never do an M&G until the offer is on the table. I seriously doubt this one will pan out. She is just too hot.
https://www.seeking.com/member/dd63a1de-aeff-44fc-9d77-b1a761ea7c32
HollywoodGuy
12-27-18, 20:14
They're always interested after the intro letter. Want to do the M&G etc. But I never do an M&G until the offer is on the table. I seriously doubt this one will pan out. She is just too hot.
https://www.seeking.com/member/dd63a1de-aeff-44fc-9d77-b1a761ea7c32Her reply when I asked her if she would consider taking less than $$. "Hahahahahahahahah"
At 5'-2" odds are very low. Maybe the private photos will help resolve the question.
Tranny?
https://www.seeking.com/member/5094da78-b135-47c4-b39f-195acc26ee72
HollywoodGuy
12-27-18, 21:47
Passing her along. Dated her twice. The chemistry just wasn't there for me. Felt a little awkward. Generally a nice girl. Nice figure, good looking. YMMV as always.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f6845388-6355-4310-8989-294bc87e346a
HollywoodGuy
12-28-18, 18:45
Looks simple enough. I guess it all comes down to the definition of the word "spoil". But doesn't it always.
https://www.seeking.com/member/43e56af9-1915-4d85-9feb-6bdd9902d7f3
HollywoodGuy
12-28-18, 20:03
ME.
"the usual offer"
HER.
Well I'm really super low on cash right now so I might agree.
You never know when you might get lucky. I have had some amazing looking girls say yes. And I will admit a lot of times they ditch me after one or two times. But I don't really care.
Had some fun planned for $$ when she showed wasn't the girl in the pics she sent but close enough, my instincts told me something was off from the beginning and at one point was about to make an excuse to go to my car and split, should have listened to my gut. She got me into the shower and instead of joining me she ran out the door with the cash.
HollywoodGuy
12-29-18, 01:48
So I set up a M&G with this girl that had one red flag in her profile. (she alluded to having kinky thoughts about older guys). I have said it very recently, the truly kinky girls never talk about it in their profile. Anyway I told her I would take her to dinner in her neighborhood (litttle tokyo). Most of the restaurants there are very reasonable. She says lets meet at the restaurant and then sends me the address of a $250 a couple upscale sushi place in the financial district. Needless to say that was the end of that date.
So tonite I will just hang with my GF and then see my not so new little girl tomorrow and for the rest of the weekend. It could be worse. Its good to have some backup, keeps me from being too needy. I don't care how many girls I disappoint because sooner or later the next keeper will arrive, it's just a matter of when.
HollywoodGuy
12-29-18, 01:51
Had some fun planned for $$ when she showed wasn't the girl in the pics she sent but close enough, my instincts told me something was off from the beginning and at one point was about to make an excuse to go to my car and split, should have listened to my gut. She got me into the shower and instead of joining me she ran out the door with the cash.Dang dude. If I am meeting a UTR right at the no-tel, I always shower at home first, take all the credit cards out of my wallet before I leave, and then leave my wallet in the car when I get there. But it could happen to anyone.
Madaboutmax
12-30-18, 20:12
I assume you haven't read this thread. LOL.
HG isnt paying that. He is sugesting what she may charge others I'm assuming.
I personally like HG's preference.... I prefer chocolate myself.
Iyou can find a bunch of girls that look like her and better in Inglewood south central gardena that will gladly accept a two piece Popeye combo and do whatever you want. As long as your happy I guess. But she's robbing you blindly, a grand. I'm IN AWE.
HollywoodGuy
12-31-18, 17:13
I assume you haven't read this thread. LOL.
HG isnt paying that. He is sugesting what she may charge others I'm assuming.
I personally like HG's preference.... I prefer chocolate myself.Yeah. A grand would be her minimum per week (maybe get you 2 trips to the FC if you're lucky). Just this week some guy gave her the keys to a vacant fully furnished 3 bedroom house. That rents for at least $3000 or more a month. And she didn't even have to give anything up for it (just the pleasure of her company). But some girls know how to play the desperate. Me? . I pay my $ a date as always (all expenses included in that, room, food, etc.), she is no exception.
I may not have my pick of the litter, but at least I get my $ worth.
HollywoodGuy
01-02-19, 04:44
Started out the new year with the tiniest girl I ever dated. She was 5' and 85 lbs and perfectly proportioned with a little doll face. Not everyone's cup of tea I am sure, but it was awesome for me. Supposed to see her again Friday. Did the M&G in the car. That lasted about 10 minutes before she said let's go.
It kills me to know I already have her at $$. Now I have to get her to $.Would love to meet a baby doll like this. You are a rockstar!
Started out the new year with the tiniest girl I ever dated. She was 5' and 85 lbs and perfectly proportioned with a little doll face. Not everyone's cup of tea I am sure, but it was awesome for me. Supposed to see her again Friday. Did the M&G in the car. That lasted about 10 minutes before she said let's go.Got pics or link?
HollywoodGuy
01-02-19, 14:40
Got pics or link?Not yet. Hope she wants to see me again. The problem with paying a $ a date is they will acquiesce when they are in need, but then ditch when they aren't.
HollywoodGuy
01-02-19, 14:41
Would love to meet a baby doll like this. You are a rockstar!This girl laughed me off.
HollywoodGuy
01-02-19, 15:59
Got pics or link?She just txted me back. Says we are on for a date this weekend. The pics are going to be a little tricky. I just don't see her as the type of girl that's going to be down for that all too soon. But if I can I will. What a gem. Good kisser and loves role play. My kind of girl.
HollywoodGuy
01-05-19, 14:21
At this point I am pretty much off the hook with my not so new little girl. She has moved back in with her sugar daddy, who in a panic to keep her around has already dropped about 3 k the first week to keep her happy (new iphone, etc, etc). I am now the officially designated BF. Last month I managed to get 12 trips to the FC for about nine large. About half of that went to pay for the rooms and rest for meals and party favors. Allowance was like $$ at most.
As I am still trying to wiggle out of my financially distressed situation this couldn't have come at a better time. So I have an x SB paying me rent, my GF covering all her expenses (as she is now working FT) and my not so new little girl being sponsored by her SD. I pretty much have it covered.
I only interviewed one new girl last month and that was just a UTR that I most likely won't see again. This month I struck gold with the doll faced girl. But at the moment she is out of the area. She keeps messaging me, so hopefully I will get to see her again soon. She is a cum hard type of girl (to the point of incapacitation) and a unicorn for sure.
HollywoodGuy
01-10-19, 19:44
Started out the new year with the tiniest girl I ever dated. She was 5' and 85 lbs and perfectly proportioned with a little doll face. Not everyone's cup of tea I am sure, but it was awesome for me. Supposed to see her again Friday. Did the M&G in the car. That lasted about 10 minutes before she said let's go.So the doll faced unicorn girl was a hit and run. She tried to hit me up for some advance money. To flush her out I offered her double to come see me. It was a ruse, she had no interest in seeing me again, she was just hoping to play on my sympathy, neediness, whatever. Never advance these girls money.
So if you run across a 20 year old 5" and 85 lb girl. Watch your wallet.
HollywoodGuy
01-10-19, 22:38
Wanted $$$ I passed.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3c57ba3f-c69f-4a86-893d-49114d5cb9f3
HollywoodGuy
01-11-19, 02:26
Weekend Roundup. I am too sick to do shit this week. But I got a good hit on this bangin little shawty. She is packin some serious sensuality in that 5' frame of hers. Lives close by so I may give her a shot in between coughing fits.
When I asked her about her allowance expectations, this was her reply.
"Its not so much about the money its more about getting to experience a different part of life. I mean it would be a plus (getting some GPS money) and I do get high offers but I need something different".
So I hit her up with my offer. Her reply, "No problem, what kind of dates interest you"?
I asked her to email me, and she did. I gave her a choice of two kinds of dates. Her reply, "Everything sounds good. Hopefully we click. Just let me know when you would like to meet".
These are the kind of girls you wanna look for. Its not rocket science, and sometimes it really does go this smooth. Just stay calm, confident and to the point.
HollywoodGuy
01-12-19, 22:06
Today I hit up a hard bodied 18 year old UTR. She seemed overly eager (as they all are) but cool enough. She said she got kicked out of her parents house and needed a room for the night (hence the urgency of her many txts). The way she said it, it sounded believable. So I told her I would get her a room but then I could only pay her .5 for the date. She agreed, so I picked her up nearby, checked her ID, and then off to the no-tel. She also offered to take the bus to DTLA when I balked at driving to her location. So my total RT drive time was only 30 minutes.
We got to the room and she stripped down fast. It was a bit rushed for sure, but I got a little taste of everything (all bare) and she really did have an amazing body (and freshly shaved pussy). The total damage was $.4 (just barely worth it, but it took the edge off). This cold has kinda dampened my libido, but I could have gone longer than the maybe 30 minutes she gave me.
Laughing my ass off at this - "generational wealth" !
"I request a higher allowance because I believe in investing in my future as well as in being able to build generational wealth".
https://www.seeking.com/member/de5ee87b-077d-4152-921c-32b2454731b1
That qualifies for a new term. DPS = Diamond Pussy Syndrome.
HollywoodGuy
01-13-19, 19:27
Wanted $$$ I passed.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3c57ba3f-c69f-4a86-893d-49114d5cb9f3She just went from $$$ down to $$. Just one more to go. Patience.
HollywoodGuy
01-13-19, 19:37
Highly recommended. Very easy website.
https://bluechew.com/
JohnRichard
01-13-19, 20:20
Highly recommended. Very easy website.
https://bluechew.com/Hi hwg. The site is great, delivery is convenient but it is pricey. I have seen discussions on the Atlanta forum about getting online scrip for 25, and using good Rx coupon to get 30 V 20 mg doses for around $16. The scrip allows 12 months total.
Several people confirming it is cost effective.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?25443-Out-of-the-BLUE!&p=3783618&viewfull=1#post3783618
What are the most effective initial messages? I've gone from very specific references to their profiles (which I'm pretty certain they don't even know), to a "Hi, what are you looking for in an arrangement". None of my pitches seem to be that effective, so I'm wondering what others are using that get attention.
I've had girls tell me that some guys quote prices initially, which I think is risky on SA these days, and probably should be taken off line.
Laughing my ass off at this - "generational wealth" !
"I request a higher allowance because I believe in investing in my future as well as in being able to build generational wealth".
https://www.seeking.com/member/de5ee87b-077d-4152-921c-32b2454731b1
That qualifies for a new term. DPS = Diamond Pussy Syndrome.That means she takes apple stocks and treasury bonds.
HollywoodGuy
01-14-19, 05:10
Hi hwg. The site is great, delivery is convenient but it is pricey. I have seen discussions on the Atlanta forum about getting online scrip for 25, and using good Rx coupon to get 30 V 20 mg doses for around $16. The scrip allows 12 months total.
Several people confirming it is cost effective.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?25443-Out-of-the-BLUE!&p=3783618&viewfull=1#post3783618I pay like $70 a month for 30 at my regular pharmacy. But my dr will only prescribe me one pill a day. So I have a second doc. The blewchew dr. to fill in the other one a day I need. This is actually medicinal for me as I have bph. Sex or no sex I take two a day, just to live a semi normal life. One a day just doesn't cut it. And thats on top of the tamsulosin and finasteride. getting older can be a chore sometimes. In TJ they cost like $ for 28 and it says lilly on the box. You can buy as many as you want at a time, but with all the BS down there right now, this is my solution. And I dont trust those online pharmacies, I dont care what anyone says. It's not for me.
And strangely medicare will not cover cialis and either does part D insurance. Total BS. But they cover viagra. Makes no sense at all.
I pay like $70 a month for 30 at my regular pharmacy. But my dr will only prescribe me one pill a day. So I have a second doc. The blewchew dr. to fill in the other one a day I need. This is actually medicinal for me as I have bph. Sex or no sex I take two a day, just to live a semi normal life. One a day just doesn't cut it. And thats on top of the tamsulosin and finasteride. getting older can be a chore sometimes. In TJ they cost like $ for 28 and it says lilly on the box. You can buy as many as you want at a time, but with all the BS down there right now, this is my solution. And I dont trust those online pharmacies, I dont care what anyone says. It's not for me.
And strangely medicare will not cover cialis and either does part D insurance. Total BS. But they cover viagra. Makes no sense at all.If you really want something reliable that doesn't need to be taken around the clock, look into trimix or caverject. Once you get a hang of things you could be ready in like 2 minutes, and it'll last as long as you need. Dose usually comes out to like 2-5 bucks per use. Pm if you need more info.
Fair warning: got to have some mental fortitude. It does involve needles.
Skin.
DSLs.
Tittys.
Face looks great. Nice.
Weekend Roundup. I am too sick to do shit this week. But I got a good hit on this bangin little shawty. She is packin some serious sensuality in that 5' frame of hers. Lives close by so I may give her a shot in between coughing fits.
When I asked her about her allowance expectations, this was her reply.
"Its not so much about the money its more about getting to experience a different part of life. I mean it would be a plus (getting some GPS money) and I do get high offers but I need something different".
So I hit her up with my offer. Her reply, "No problem, what kind of dates interest you"?
I asked her to email me, and she did. I gave her a choice of two kinds of dates. Her reply, "Everything sounds good. Hopefully we click. Just let me know when you would like to meet".
These are the kind of girls you wanna look for. Its not rocket science, and sometimes it really does go this smooth. Just stay calm, confident and to the point.
HollywoodGuy
01-15-19, 01:03
If you really want something reliable that doesn't need to be taken around the clock, look into trimix or caverject. Once you get a hang of things you could be ready in like 2 minutes, and it'll last as long as you need. Dose usually comes out to like 2-5 bucks per use. Pm if you need more info.
Fair warning: got to have some mental fortitude. It does involve needles.I have to look away when I get a blood test. So probably not for me, plus the C's and V's never let me down. Not even once.
If you really want something reliable that doesn't need to be taken around the clock, look into trimix or caverject. Once you get a hang of things you could be ready in like 2 minutes, and it'll last as long as you need. Dose usually comes out to like 2-5 bucks per use. Pm if you need more info.
Fair warning: got to have some mental fortitude. It does involve needles.THIS. Reliable, effective, fast.
Think of the time in your life when you had the single-hardest erection ever. Just a fluke of rock hardness. Trimix gives you 95% of that experience for 1-3 hours, every time. And Trimix doesn't give a flying fuck whether you're turned on or even awake. It's the Honey Badger of ED medicine. Changed my life.
Highly recommended. Very easy website.
https://bluechew.com/Do you do a consultation over the internet or a DR calls you to see if your elgible?
HollywoodGuy
01-15-19, 22:16
Do you do a consultation over the internet or a DR calls you to see if your elgible?Internet only.
Internet only.Okay, Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
01-16-19, 00:11
THIS. Reliable, effective, fast.
Think of the time in your life when you had the single-hardest erection ever. Just a fluke of rock hardness. Trimix gives you 95% of that experience for 1-3 hours, every time. And Trimix doesn't give a flying fuck whether you're turned on or even awake. It's the Honey Badger of ED medicine. Changed my life.If I ever need this I would do it, but still got some life left in me.
HollywoodGuy
01-16-19, 19:41
My GF has now started to refer to herself as my wife (together almost 6 years now, black dress) and my not so new little girl is now calling herself my new GF (side profile). So I am going to do the same.
HollywoodGuy
01-16-19, 20:53
My GF has now started to refer to herself as my wife (together almost 6 years now, black dress) and my not so new little girl is now calling herself my new GF (side profile). So I am going to do the same.The wife pays all her own expenses (but of course she is getting free rent, use of a car, cel phone), and the GF has a SD that's currently on the hook for 4-5 k a month. So far I have hit the FC 6 times this month with the GF for $$$ total. That all went to the no-tel. Hang around long enough as an SD and this stuff will happen.
Posted awhile back just when I got started on SA and got some feedback from HG regarding a few SB potentials (much appreciated). He told me to up my game so I tried.
Since then, have probably messaged with over 100 girls (or more like they have messaged me. Never expected to be this popular), but was always too scared to pull the trigger. Either figured they were too good to be true or was being catfished. Plus it's got to be worth it for me to put things at risk.
Finally saw someone that I felt was worth pulling the trigger for. Her pics were pro so figured she must be kind of a pro, so broke the rules and got down to business to see if she was even in the ballpark. She wanted $6 which was too much but I had some extra so got her down a little and she was willing to host, which helped since I didn't have to get a hotel (I know, most of you are probably laughing at me, especially HG who probably thinks I'm doing too much for my first try. But hey, got to learn somehow).
Met up and just before I got there she texted she didn't have a condom and asked for me to bring one. Keep in mind this is my first time at this (at the SB game, not at the MP or escort) and got the snip recently so told her that but she still insisted I bring one, so went to cvs and did.
Open the door and luckily she's pretty much what's in the pics, maybe a couple years older (she's in her early 30's, pics look like from when she was mid to late 20's). Typical actress type trying to make ends meet. She's clearly been on the site for awhile (maybe some of you have seen her). Anyways, overall it was a fun afternoon but too pricey for me to keep on a regular basis. But at least I broke my SA cherry.
HollywoodGuy
01-17-19, 03:27
Tonite my GF took some allowance money from her SD and popped for a 3.5 star room at a classy hotel in DTLA.
The room was $$ on expedia. The experience was priceless.
If you really want something reliable that doesn't need to be taken around the clock, look into trimix or caverject. Once you get a hang of things you could be ready in like 2 minutes, and it'll last as long as you need. Dose usually comes out to like 2-5 bucks per use. Pm if you need more info.
Fair warning: got to have some mental fortitude. It does involve needles.How big is the needle?
HollywoodGuy
01-17-19, 07:07
Posted awhile back just when I got started on SA and got some feedback from HG regarding a few SB potentials (much appreciated). He told me to up my game so I tried.
Since then, have probably messaged with over 100 girls (or more like they have messaged me. Never expected to be this popular), but was always too scared to pull the trigger. Either figured they were too good to be true or was being catfished. Plus it's got to be worth it for me to put things at risk.
Finally saw someone that I felt was worth pulling the trigger for. Her pics were pro so figured she must be kind of a pro, so broke the rules and got down to business to see if she was even in the ballpark. She wanted $6 which was too much but I had some extra so got her down a little and she was willing to host, which helped since I didn't have to get a hotel (I know, most of you are probably laughing at me, especially HG who probably thinks I'm doing too much for my first try. But hey, got to learn somehow).
Met up and just before I got there she texted she didn't have a condom and asked for me to bring one. Keep in mind this is my first time at this (at the SB game, not at the MP or escort) and got the snip recently so told her that but she still insisted I bring one, so went to cvs and did.
Open the door and luckily she's pretty much what's in the pics, maybe a couple years older (she's in her early 30's, pics look like from when she was mid to late 20's). Typical actress type trying to make ends meet. She's clearly been on the site for awhile (maybe some of you have seen her). Anyways, overall it was a fun afternoon but too pricey for me to keep on a regular basis. But at least I broke my SA cherry.Six large... hmmmm. One suggestion, just immediately go down to $$$ for the next girl, and don't date anyone over 21. And you pick them, not the other way around. Do that once or twice and then drop to $$. Then just stay there till you get the lay of the land. Once you get to girl number 10, pay what they are worth and what you can afford. If it was up to me I would only date $$ girls, I just can't afford it.
I'm brand spanking new to trying SA and I'm trying to piecemeal together the various tips and tricks (mostly from HollywoodGuy). One burning question I have, are there any subtle red flags that immediately make you pass a girls profile? I'm trying to score an agreement that is not costing more than 200/ meet because I wouldn't be able to afford higher. So many of the girls look amazing, but I don't want to be looking like a moron contacting girls that expect huge payouts. Also I want to avoid the awkward situation of them expecting me to pay out just for a greet, I'm expecting to get laid. I really don't know how to convey that without instantly getting banned and losing the money I paid for a membership.
ps. Hollywood your new GF with the blonde braids looks so hot. I hope I can score with someone like that, what do you think it would cost to get with a girl that cute on SA? Oh which reminds me, do that expect like a lump sum allowance upfront? Because there's no way I can do that. I could only pay them per meet, is that even possible on a SD platform or am I kidding myself?
Six large... hmmmm. One suggestion, just immediately go down to $$$ for the next girl, and don't date anyone over 21. And you pick them, not the other way around. Do that once or twice and then drop to $$. Then just stay there till you get the lay of the land. Once you get to girl number 10, pay what they are worth and what you can afford. If it was up to me I would only date $$ girls, I just can't afford it.My buddy has just been fishing on the app where you offer $ for a date to girls posted. Totally weird concept because it not direct negotiation for sex. This is just to date. However he has had some success and currently has a 6 foot tall Persian girl. Hoping he has great stories after date #4!
It is as small as you can get; narrower than a strand of hair; it is hard to believe they can be made that narrow and only 5/16 " long; you can barely feel it go in. It is the same size as is used for insulin injections. Well worth the results!
HollywoodGuy
01-17-19, 22:02
I'm brand spanking new to trying SA and I'm trying to piecemeal together the various tips and tricks (mostly from HollywoodGuy). One burning question I have, are there any subtle red flags that immediately make you pass a girls profile? I'm trying to score an agreement that is not costing more than 200/ meet because I wouldn't be able to afford higher. So many of the girls look amazing, but I don't want to be looking like a moron contacting girls that expect huge payouts. Also I want to avoid the awkward situation of them expecting me to pay out just for a greet, I'm expecting to get laid. I really don't know how to convey that without instantly getting banned and losing the money I paid for a membership.
ps. Hollywood your new GF with the blonde braids looks so hot. I hope I can score with someone like that, what do you think it would cost to get with a girl that cute on SA? Oh which reminds me, do that expect like a lump sum allowance upfront? Because there's no way I can do that. I could only pay them per meet, is that even possible on a SD platform or am I kidding myself?If every newbie just stuck to $$ per date I am sure all their questions would be answered in no time.
If every newbie just stuck to $$ per date I am sure all their questions would be answered in no time.I'm not even sure what that means. Am I just embarking on a fools errand with such low budget to spend?
HollywoodGuy
01-18-19, 00:23
I'm not even sure what that means. Am I just embarking on a fools errand with such low budget to spend?It means don't spend more than $$ a date. Period. Plenty of girls will jump at the chance to date you for that price.
I'm with you I tend to spend a few more bucks than usually mentioned on the model quality girls. You found her on SA? What city?
HollywoodGuy
01-18-19, 14:41
I'm with you I tend to spend a few more bucks than usually mentioned on the model quality girls. You found her on SA? What city?All my girls live in L. A.
HG,
I've heard either here or on the Richmond thread that these girls who say "nothing physical" or "no sex" on their profile are ultimately gettable.
I'm willing to put in *some* work for such a prize.
Any suggestions or experience with this?
HollywoodGuy
01-18-19, 22:43
HG,
I've heard either here or on the Richmond thread that these girls who say "nothing physical" or "no sex" on their profile are ultimately gettable.
I'm willing to put in *some* work for such a prize.
Any suggestions or experience with this?That's a maybe. Why not go after someone a little easier?
That's a maybe. Why not go after someone a little easier?I've had pretty decent luck so far, thought the challenge might be fun and was looking for some pointers in this situation.
For the right one, the hunt could be fun.
HollywoodGuy
01-19-19, 12:48
Also I want to avoid the awkward situation of them expecting me to pay out just for a greet, I'm expecting to get laid. I really don't know how to convey that without instantly getting banned and losing the money I paid for a membership.Here are some suggestions that may be of help and I believe are still within the Seeking guidelines.
"I pay $100 per date once we decide to start an arrangement (which could be the first date)".
"Let's start with a casual date with me only paying for any normal dating expenses, like a meal or whatever".
"I think awesome chemistry is really the key to making these arrangements work... what about you?"
or something like "I am a very affectionate person, love to cuddle, very hands on with everything I do, etc, etc..."
They will usually catch your drift.
Also... never be sarcastic no matter how tempting, just delete and move on.
HollywoodGuy
01-19-19, 13:17
I've had pretty decent luck so far, thought the challenge might be fun and was looking for some pointers in this situation.
For the right one, the hunt could be fun.Life is enough of a challenge for me as it is. Occasionally I will hit those types up, usually with little success. I would rather look for the newbies, the curious types, the shy types, the girl next door types, the bold types, the bored types and the needy (either emotionally, physically or financially). Girls that will be thrilled with the idea of a fun adventure (in the FC of course).
Geographically desirable and that I am naturally attracted to.
HollywoodGuy
01-20-19, 14:02
Saturday Night Fever
So after 2 weeks of back and forth with the girl in pic 2 she finally backs down from $$$ to $$ to "let's stay at $$ but I will bring my GF along as well" (the girl in pic 3). But I was also txting with the girl in pic 1 all day yesterday. She is a UTR near LAX that was doing her best to get me to commit. And much better looking in my opinion than either of the other two (plus girl 3 looked a little scary... lol). So finally I say OK and we agree to meet at the no-tel at 10 pm. I go to the no-tel and very soon realize I had been stood up. No reply to my txt. She was getting back to me all the way up to the point of when it was time for me to drive over there. I never paid for the room, so, oh-well.
So after about 30 minutes I txt this NP in the valley. A skittish little girl that wanted to do an M&G first to get to know me better before she made a decision about hitting the FC. I convinced her to let me come over and do the M&G in the car in a parking lot next to her apartment complex. I drive all the way from DTLA to van nuys, and right on time out comes this skinny but sexy little 19 year old. Within minutes her smiles were broad and frequent, so I went in for the kiss.
I spent the next hour roaming all over her perfect little body. I was squeezing and pulling on her pierced nips so hard that I kept backing off before she could tell me it was too much. But she never flinched once. She liked it rough. As she was wearing no bra and a crop top, access was pretty easy. I rubbed her pussy with equal vigor and she came two or three times (I forget). I never tried for any reciprocation as I knew my GF was going to be getting out of a party right about that time. So we parted ways and agreed to step it up to a paid date today or tonite.
So I called the GF and she said to come get her. I then drove all the way back down to DTLA, picked her up and went straight to the no-tel. Sold Out. Went to five more no-tels, all sold out. At this point my groin was hurting, but it was getting really late and the wifey was txting. So I called an uber for my GF, and then went home and fell asleep faster than a mike tyson knockout.
FarFarAway
01-20-19, 20:57
I'd add a caveat or two to that. For you, in your situation and your target demographic, it is that, HG. I don't know that it is as easy for SDs who have SOs, or who are going for very different types of girls than you are. As several veterans on the Richmond board like to say, you get the bowl you are looking for. And, keep in mind, only some of the reports on that board pertain to Richmond, that has become the de facto national thread where anyone playing in the bowl is posting and reading to get and give expert advice.
You do have vastly more experience and I am sure have FCed w / at least 10 or 30 times as many SBs than I have from the site, but the question for readers is, is your experience generalizable? I have decided that my goal is to fuck as much high quality pussy as I can, and I have stuck to my quality guns with the resources and game that I have. I am not ashamed of a single girl I've taken to the FC, even with those standards. I am 2+ years in, have had only a minor mishap w / the SO, and continue to be satisfied by the girls I can get. Amazed even.
Keying in somewhat to your other post, I M&Ged w / a 25 YO Latina spinner the other day. From the moment we met, her eyes and smile told me she wanted to. We had a good long conversation, including sugar. She claimed a vastly higher past allowance than I would ever consider for almost anyone (Morgan Brennan the exception, in case you watch CNBC) . There was no mistaking the connection though. It's still to be determined if she will accept my offer.
HollywoodGuy
01-21-19, 10:28
but the question for readers is, is your experience generalizable?My experiences, musings, observations and so called advice are generalizable to the best of my ability to do so, although not necessarily applicable to everyone's unique situation.
HollywoodGuy
01-21-19, 10:42
Revised.
So after a month of me posting the same pic of me boning my GF from behind, I got 1100 views on this thread and 900 on the richmond thread. Everyone should read that thread as it does have some very good info. Just disregard all the braggadocio from the pre-internet days as those stories have little to no relevance in today's online SD dating culture. Also their posts (from all over the country) of over priced, and not as many to choose from babies does not relate to the L. A. pool of never ending model quality pussy, and just the sheer volume of girls we have here.
The value we get in L. A. for pussy is probably the best in the USA (irregardless of their age, race, or looks). I have read all the SD threads on this site, and nothing compares to our abundance. We have the home grown Cali girls, plus all the hotties from all over the country (and the world) that move here hoping to make their fortunes. God Bless Us All
HollywoodGuy
01-21-19, 10:57
So after about 30 minutes I txt this NP in the valley. A skittish little girl that wanted to do an M&G first to get to know me better before she made a decision about hitting the FC. I convinced her to let me come over and do the M&G in the car in a parking lot next to her apartment complex. I drive all the way from DTLA to van nuys, and right on time out comes this skinny but sexy little 19 year old. Within minutes her smiles were broad and frequent, so I went in for the kiss.
I spent the next hour roaming all over her perfect little body. I was squeezing and pulling on her pierced nips so hard that I kept backing off before she could tell me it was too much. But she never flinched once. She liked it rough. As she was wearing no bra and a crop top, access was pretty easy. I rubbed her pussy with equal vigor and she came two or three times (I forget). I never tried for any reciprocation as I knew my GF was going to be getting out of a party right about that time. So we parted ways and agreed to step it up to a paid date today or tonite.So I followed up last night with the paid date.
HollywoodGuy
01-21-19, 11:16
It was an interesting experience to say the least. She decided to see me at like 10 pm. By then my energy level had dropped considerably and normally I would have just canceled, but since she gave me the freebie the night before and me wanting to see if she really had any future potential I followed through with the date.
When we got to the room it was hot as hell in there and the bed was way too soft. Between that and my low energy level, junior was just not up to the task. She started asking if I wanted to cancel or was it her fault. I told her not to worry and lets just switch it up a little. So I decided to just go DATY for a while and see what happens. Turns out her pussy and ass are the closest thing to cherry pie this side of marie calenders.
I won't go into the details other than to say it was amazing. A top 10 experience for sure. I then proceeded to bone her until she cried Daddy. At that point I told her it was my turn and moved junior toward her mouth. She then tells me she doesn't do oral. So we finished with a HJ, a prostate massage and some foot play. So in spite of a slow start I had a good finish, and just in time as there was only 10 minutes left on the clock when we left (it was a two hour rental).
Normally I would not consider seeing her again due to her refusal so suck me off. But her pussy was the tastiest I have had since the GPS asian I scored a few months ago and actually about the best since this girl I used to date like 3 or 4 years ago (named neesha from pasadena, a girl whose pussy you could write a book on). I told her I would try to get her over her fear of cocksucking if she was willing the next time. But during all this the 85 lb unicorn girl texted me. So stop the presses. Update to follow.
Team,
So I am visiting your fair city this week and have a date planned with this young treat, any intel on her? Any SA girls I should hit up? Thanks much and I can't wait for warmer weather!
https://www.seeking.com/member/388b919b-5cff-4243-b137-a78cde09be40
Thanks much!
T.
Team,
So I am visiting your fair city this week and have a date planned with this young treat, any intel on her? Any SA girls I should hit up? Thanks much and I can't wait for warmer weather!
https://www.seeking.com/member/388b919b-5cff-4243-b137-a78cde09be40
Thanks much!
T.That's a red-flag profile, careful!
One picture only.
Short sentences.
Just joined yesterday.
Do not send one dime via any cash app. If they ask for money, say you'll bring it to wherever they are.
If you feel it's legit, but not 100% you can offer to pay for uber both ways as soon as she arrives.
HollywoodGuy
01-22-19, 21:58
That's a red-flag profile, careful!
One picture only.
Short sentences.
Just joined yesterday.
Do not send one dime via any cash app. If they ask for money, say you'll bring it to wherever they are.
If you feel it's legit, but not 100% you can offer to pay for uber both ways as soon as she arrives.Actually all those reasons you just listed are exactly the type of girl I would hit up. Very NP looking.
VisitingGent
01-23-19, 01:55
I've been lurking around for some time and soaking up as much info as possible but for the life of me I can't seem to find what FC stands for? Planning to jump into the bowl soon!
Actually all those reasons you just listed are exactly the type of girl I would hit up. Very NP looking.I have to agree with HG here, go for it because that's the type of girl that might be new and naive. But of course any moron should know not to send digital currency to someone they don't know ever. Like if a person don't know that much I don't even know what to say.
I have to agree with HG here, go for it because that's the type of girl that might be new and naive. But of course any moron should know not to send digital currency to someone they don't know ever. Like if a person don't know that much I don't even know what to say.Team,
I had some trouble logging in while out of town and am loving the weather. I am set up to meet with her tomorrow evening and will let you know how it goes. Still feeling out a few other girls on SA, most keep asking for $$ or more, after reading your guys area, should I stick to my guns for the $$ girls? Anyone have a good lead on SA you can pm. I always return the favor, thanks much.
T.
HollywoodGuy
01-23-19, 22:48
Team,
I had some trouble logging in while out of town and am loving the weather. I am set up to meet with her tomorrow evening and will let you know how it goes. Still feeling out a few other girls on SA, most keep asking for $$ or more, after reading your guys area, should I stick to my guns for the $$ girls? Anyone have a good lead on SA you can pm. I always return the favor, thanks much.
T.Go with $$ a few times until you are confident enough to offer less. And don't look for leads, unless you are looking for streetwalkers, develop your own.
Go with $$ a few times until you are confident enough to offer less. And don't look for leads, unless you are looking for streetwalkers, develop your own.HG,
Thanks for the intel, I have done well on the east coast and share what I can, I expected the same here. So I will not follow up with any leads on your thread. Best of luck to you in 2019.
T.
HollywoodGuy
01-24-19, 03:00
HG,
Thanks for the intel, I have done well on the east coast and share what I can, I expected the same here. So I will not follow up with any leads on your thread. Best of luck to you in 2019.
T.Read this thread and you"ll get the gist of it. I have posted a few girls on here over the years. But they weren't SB's... just UTR's trying to sneak into the NP world, and I assume that's what you are actually after (NP's). No one really shares those. Not me, not anyone.
Read this thread and you"ll get the gist of it. I have posted a few girls on here over the years. But they weren't SB's... just UTR's trying to sneak into the NP world, and I assume that's what you are actually after (NP's). No one really shares those. Not me, not anyone.Forgive my ignorance but what the heck does NP and utr stand for?
ScoopDaDrop
01-24-19, 10:16
Forgive my ignorance but what the heck does NP and utr stand for?Non Pros and Under the Radar.
Madaboutmax
01-24-19, 11:02
FC = F*ck Chamber (place to do the deed).
NP = Non Pro (usually new, doesn't see multiple people, charge hourly rates or call everone babe, hun, etc).
UTR = Under the Radar (pro but doesn't advertise).
Forgive my ignorance but what the heck does NP and utr stand for?
HollywoodGuy
01-26-19, 12:54
https://www.seeking.com/member/4e44fd30-3f97-4704-a74d-a161522a32e2
The one the right agreed to a $, but then said I had to cover her GF as well (an average looking blond white girl). But at $ a piece still a good value. Just not what I am looking for. Here is the pic she txted me. Pretty girl w her average looking friend.
HollywoodGuy
01-26-19, 14:39
Todays M&G's.
All of these girls agreed to the $ offer. Pic one was a slam dunk, but she is older and far away. Pic 2 and 3 want to check me out at an M&G first. Saturday is basically my one day off, maybe I'll try to meet both of them today? Both are very close by, I would love to get the girl in pic 2.
Pic 4... the happy couple... going on 9 months.
Pic 5... just popped into my inbox while I was posting. A cute latina.
Also.. got catfished at an M&G a couple days ago... it happens. Wish she would stop txting me.
HollywoodGuy
01-26-19, 20:35
https://www.seeking.com/member/5b88ebc7-8fe5-4a00-87ff-c260742d43cf
So I did the M&G with the girl in pic 2 (in my last post, and here is another pic of her). And for a change of pace the only thing I told her was that I pay $ a date once we decide to start an arrangement. Biggest mistake I ever made, will not do this again, and never ever do it anyway, so not sure why I did it this time. So we had lunch and she thought I was going to tip her a $ for her time. Huh? .
So then she says can I get a room. I am like yes we can get a room. And she gives me this look, and I say, the room is yours, I just need an hour or two with you and that's it. And she is like I am not going to have sex with you until I know you better. So I say OK, take all the time you want, but don't expect any allowance until we hook up. I showed her my two GF's pics so she could see I was not in any way out of my league. She liked them both and really liked the 18 year old (as she is 19 I think)(even though her profile says 21).
Anyway the whole thing went south fast, she said I wasted her time, and she just walked away. I was already in DTLA so I picked up my GF and took her home for a quicky. Any guy that wants to hang with this girl for $ a date? She is desperate for cash, maybe you can spend a few bills and get lucky down the road. She said if I did that, then that's what would happen. I took a pass.
HollywoodGuy
01-27-19, 19:01
https://www.seeking.com/member/c95874a8-4768-43a9-a5e0-070309e7c995
Fit-nessbabyyy about 5 minutes ago.
I need ppm.
ME about 2 minutes ago.
I pay $100 a date once we decide to start an arrangement (for an hour or more of your time).
Fit-nessbabyyy about 2 minutes ago.
I'm at 500 ppm sorry try another girl.
Just an average girl with cavier dreams. For this price you can get the super models.
City Slicker
01-28-19, 14:57
I am new to this game and have messaged with a few. Came across her and she seems very cool. However before we even meet, she came up a few stories of needing me to send her $ urgently due to some unexpected events in her life. Just a heads up bro!
https://www.seeking.com/member/a93dcb9d-c0e4-4744-b52f-ff0575006c0c
City Slicker
01-28-19, 15:01
Todays M&G's.
All of these girls agreed to the $ offer. Pic one was a slam dunk, but she is older and far away. Pic 2 and 3 want to check me out at an M&G first. Saturday is basically my one day off, maybe I'll try to meet both of them today? Both are very close by, I would love to get the girl in pic 2.
Pic 4... the happy couple... going on 9 months.
Pic 5... just popped into my inbox while I was posting. A cute latina.
Also.. got catfished at an M&G a couple days ago... it happens. Wish she would stop txting me.$100 offer for intimacy too or just to meet and hang out? The lowest I have been able to get it $300. I am not sure where you boys are getting it for 100-200. Need to step up my game!
HollywoodGuy
01-29-19, 00:16
$100 offer for intimacy too or just to meet and hang out? The lowest I have been able to get it $300. I am not sure where you boys are getting it for 100-200. Need to step up my game!I don't pay any girl just to meet and hangout. All my play dates are $. Black, white, hispanic, mixed, asian or alien.
Been seeing her a few times lately. The issue is that she is a bit far from me and doesn't have a reliable way to get around. I either have to pick her up or order her an uber. But, she does give an amazing head game and game for anything. She's 18 going on 19 and has quite the daddy issues.
HollywoodGuy
01-29-19, 02:58
Been seeing her a few times lately. The issue is that she is a bit far from me and doesn't have a reliable way to get around. I either have to pick her up or order her an uber. But, she does give an amazing head game and game for anything. She's 18 going on 19 and has quite the daddy issues.Its definitely all in the Daddy issues. The greater the issues... the greater the need to please & obey (and the lower the allowance).
The intel and formula you have created are priceless. Too bad Learning Annex doesn't allow for you to teach and be paid on the methods of Hollywood Guy, Cheers! BTW not a dog in the bunch!
Todays M&G's.
All of these girls agreed to the $ offer. Pic one was a slam dunk, but she is older and far away. Pic 2 and 3 want to check me out at an M&G first. Saturday is basically my one day off, maybe I'll try to meet both of them today? Both are very close by, I would love to get the girl in pic 2.
Pic 4... the happy couple... going on 9 months.
Pic 5... just popped into my inbox while I was posting. A cute latina.
Also.. got catfished at an M&G a couple days ago... it happens. Wish she would stop txting me.
City Slicker
01-30-19, 13:24
I've heard guys getting ban from the site. Do you know or can you see if you've been reported or not? All of a sudden I am not getting response like I used to but I dnt think I have done anything wrong. Maybe a few discussions with the females and we've not completed the transaction after they quote me really high rates.
Cityslicker. AKA newbie to SA game!
I've heard guys getting ban from the site. Do you know or can you see if you've been reported or not? All of a sudden I am not getting response like I used to but I dnt think I have done anything wrong. Maybe a few discussions with the females and we've not completed the transaction after they quote me really high rates.
Cityslicker. AKA newbie to SA game!I gotten banned before.
If you still have access to the site your ok.
But once you can't log in anymore it's a hassle to get back on.
HollywoodGuy
01-31-19, 03:01
I gotten banned before.
If you still have access to the site your ok.
But once you can't log in anymore it's a hassle to get back on.Stop blatantly offering cash for sex. Just say "I pay $100 a date once we decide to start an arrangement (for an hour or more of your time)". There are very few girls that won't catch your drift. If they wanna know more, put them on email or txt to spell it out more clearly.
HollywoodGuy
02-01-19, 01:30
I never seem to tire of the petite spinners. 5'2" Supposed to see her tomorrow night.
HollywoodGuy
02-01-19, 02:48
For as long as I have been keeping records, I don't think I've ever seen anyone more than 12 times in a month, even my last long term ATF. I would consider twice a week a lot for any girl. Broke that record with 16 trips to the FC with my current SB / GF / ATF this month. The total damage including all expenses was 8 benjis. The downside is having any time or energy left over for anyone else. Just completed month 10 with her.
For as long as I have been keeping records, I don't think I've ever seen anyone more than 12 times in a month, even my last long term ATF. I would consider twice a week a lot for any girl. Broke that record with 16 trips to the FC with my current SB / GF / ATF this month. The total damage including all expenses was 8 benjis. The downside is having any time or energy left over for anyone else. Just completed month 10 with her.Damn what a body, and what a mound! I can see the source of your enthusiasm.
HollywoodGuy
02-01-19, 12:57
Damn what a body, and what a mound! I can see the source of your enthusiasm.Not to mention her skills are first rate.
Not to mention her skills are first rate.Skills and chemistry are important as shit. I definitely have a type (and share your enthusiasm for AA girls) but can and have moved outside of that because, as they say in the vernacular of the day, we 'vibe'.
PriscillaM
02-01-19, 17:33
For as long as I have been keeping records, I don't think I've ever seen anyone more than 12 times in a month, even my last long term ATF. I would consider twice a week a lot for any girl. Broke that record with 16 trips to the FC with my current SB / GF / ATF this month. The total damage including all expenses was 8 benjis. The downside is having any time or energy left over for anyone else. Just completed month 10 with her.You can tell she is a non pro from the hair dye.
Good work.
For as long as I have been keeping records, I don't think I've ever seen anyone more than 12 times in a month, even my last long term ATF. I would consider twice a week a lot for any girl. Broke that record with 16 trips to the FC with my current SB / GF / ATF this month. The total damage including all expenses was 8 benjis. The downside is having any time or energy left over for anyone else. Just completed month 10 with her.Damn with those lips and tight body and the pussy mound where do you begin? The Ass I and sure is in order! Nice enjoy!
HollywoodGuy
02-02-19, 02:32
You can tell she is a non pro from the hair dye.
Good work.She is a working SB. Her true NP status is basically gone at this point.
And she's got the rich SD's footing the bill, so I don't have to.
HollywoodGuy
02-02-19, 13:36
Fuck being an SD in the rain. I can see a regular... but meeting a new girl ? ... I don't think so.
So frustrated!!
40% of cooch in my last few months has been smelly. And they never fucking realize it. Even when pointed out they can't seem to smell it (before I point it out, I ask for a BJ to see if they notice the nasty smell on my cock). None of these girls are pro, a few UTR, but mostly plain old SBs (who remove their profiles after meeting me). Rarely had this issue in my old escort days.
AAAAAAHHHHHHH! Driving me bonkers. . . Railing a 22 year old babe that is all but perfect, and out oozes that smell. . . Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
"do you want to do me in the ass?" she asks. . . . "no thanks" I say as I'm thinking "fuck no, I want to keep stay missionary and keep my head well past yours so I don't have to smell that nasty. . . Fuck, I'm going to have to change the sheets before the next girl in a few hours".
8 year civvy relationship and that only happened once, ex warden was properly diagnosed at the time with a yeast infection, took antiobiotics and no problem thereafter.
How can it be that so many can't smell their own nasty?
So frustrated!!
40% of cooch in my last few months has been smelly. And they never fucking realize it. Even when pointed out they can't seem to smell it (before I point it out, I ask for a BJ to see if they notice the nasty smell on my cock). None of these girls are pro, a few UTR, but mostly plain old SBs (who remove their profiles after meeting me). Rarely had this issue in my old escort days.
AAAAAAHHHHHHH! Driving me bonkers. . . Railing a 22 year old babe that is all but perfect, and out oozes that smell. . . Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
"do you want to do me in the ass?" she asks. . . . "no thanks" I say as I'm thinking "fuck no, I want to keep stay missionary and keep my head well past yours so I don't have to smell that nasty. . . Fuck, I'm going to have to change the sheets before the next girl in a few hours".
8 year civvy relationship and that only happened once, ex warden was properly diagnosed at the time with a yeast infection, took antiobiotics and no problem thereafter.
How can it be that so many can't smell their own nasty?Were these girls black? I had one that was like that. Total boner killer!
Were these girls black? I had one that was like that. Total boner killer!Only one of many, mostly white. Smelly doesn't seem to have a racial preference.
HollywoodGuy
02-05-19, 01:39
Only one of many, mostly white. Smelly doesn't seem to have a racial preference.(racial preference?) Not at all. Most of my girls are AA and they seem to go out of their way to adhere to the highest standards of coochie (and every other form) of cleanliness. They also spend more time on their makeup, hair (omg), clothes, etc.. than girls of other races I have dated. Its actually the white girls that are the fishiest. Could just be my experience. And the asian girls I have known were coochie cleanly crazy. lol . I dont go down on every girl I date, as some are tastier that others. But I have found you can never predict which ones those are gonna be. A girl from the projects might taste like cherry pie, and a so called classy college coed from the burbs might need a little something whispered in her ear.
It's impossible for me to use Seeking, I get banned every time I make an account there no matter what. Even if I didn't write anything yet in my profile or even contact anyone I always get banned within a few days. Support is garbage, they never explain why I'm banned, they refuse to even open a dialog with me and then they tell me not to even bother contacting them again because they will just ignore my support ticket anyway. That is so fucking stupid, I've wasted so much time and I lost a ton of progress from all the memebers who sent me PMs.
It's impossible for me to use Seeking, I get banned every time I make an account there no matter what. Even if I didn't write anything yet in my profile or even contact anyone I always get banned within a few days. Support is garbage, they never explain why I'm banned, they refuse to even open a dialog with me and then they tell me not to even bother contacting them again because they will just ignore my support ticket anyway. That is so fucking stupid, I've wasted so much time and I lost a ton of progress from all the memebers who sent me PMs.You may have some luck with secret benefits. I live in a much less populated region than LA and there are some girls available, esp around college areas.
It's impossible for me to use Seeking, I get banned every time I make an account there no matter what. Even if I didn't write anything yet in my profile or even contact anyone I always get banned within a few days. Support is garbage, they never explain why I'm banned, they refuse to even open a dialog with me and then they tell me not to even bother contacting them again because they will just ignore my support ticket anyway. That is so fucking stupid, I've wasted so much time and I lost a ton of progress from all the memebers who sent me PMs.They are matching you based on information you are unaware that you are providing.
Use a VPN service to mask your IP.
Use Incognito Mode in your browser, Chrome or Firefox suggested, not IE / Edge / Safari.
Use a different (new) email address.
Use a Vanilla One card (can also use this same card to buy VPN services).
Use a different phone number, even in messages you send to other members (use a secondary phone app ontop of your phone or a burner phone).
*tracfone can be had for about $100 + $125 for a year of prepaid service OR a few dollars a month for a phone app.
Use a different name.
Use different photos (crop reverse, and rename existing photos so they can't match based on photo contents).
If you do all of the above, they can't match you.
HollywoodGuy
02-05-19, 20:51
It's impossible for me to use Seeking, I get banned every time I make an account there no matter what. Even if I didn't write anything yet in my profile or even contact anyone I always get banned within a few days. Support is garbage, they never explain why I'm banned, they refuse to even open a dialog with me and then they tell me not to even bother contacting them again because they will just ignore my support ticket anyway. That is so fucking stupid, I've wasted so much time and I lost a ton of progress from all the members who sent me PMs.Can anyone provide a turn key solution to this? It seems like if you went to an internet cafe (then your IP would be cool). A no name credit card? I mean what else would you need to go anonymous? No pic and a completely different age and bio. I have never lost an account in 10 years, so I am no expert. There must be some IT guys on here that could help.
Also after checking on google adwords, there is no other site that gets any searches (like maybe 1% or less as many)
BlackCandleJon
02-05-19, 23:19
It's impossible for me to use Seeking, I get banned every time I make an account there no matter what. Even if I didn't write anything yet in my profile or even contact anyone I always get banned within a few days. Support is garbage, they never explain why I'm banned, they refuse to even open a dialog with me and then they tell me not to even bother contacting them again because they will just ignore my support ticket anyway. That is so fucking stupid, I've wasted so much time and I lost a ton of progress from all the memebers who sent me PMs.Secret Benefits worked for me but had to put a lot of effort and $, made around 70 contacts in Memphis and cities within 150 miles. Purchased membership 3 times to be able to communicate with SBs, even if they texted me I could not read their message until I used 10 credits. I'd say out of the 70 I met in person with 8 want to be SB, 7 were good meaning after a date or 2 they were ready for intimacy. Going to checkout Seeking and compare results.
HollywoodGuy
02-06-19, 00:25
Supposed to see this one tomorrow. RN I have too many to choose from, not enough time or cash, and two regulars that basically eat up all my time.
HollywoodGuy
02-06-19, 03:46
https://www.seeking.com/member/489b9a5f-5299-4512-96f2-826858d04399
Hi.
I'm going to be upfront to save us time. I'm new here and don't want to waste either of our time. My ppm is 800. This is not to say if something were to continue and become a regular thing that we both enjoy but one does not know whether or not something is to continue until it happens so that's where I currently stand. Prior to now I wasn't being this upfront with people but I met someone today who wanted to do 300 for ppm and honestly it was a waste of time. As I'm not doing that. So just wanted to not waste your time.
Thank god she didn't waste my time. LOL.
Geneva Guy
02-06-19, 10:09
Can anyone provide a turn key solution to this? It seems like if you went to an internet cafe (then your IP would be cool). A no name credit card? I mean what else would you need to go anonymous? No pic and a completely different age and bio. I have never lost an account in 10 years, so I am no expert. There must be some IT guys on here that could help.
Also after checking on google adwords, there is no other site that gets any searches (like maybe 1% or less as many)Download the EPIC browser (free) you can change the country location or the area of the USA, so it essentially spoofs your IP address. I have tested it and yes, it does change your IP. One Vanilla does not require you to register, you can just use it with a fake name for SA. Use fake address and NEW pictures (blur the face).
This will work.
GG.
A 31 yo fat girl wants 800? There's simply no words for that level of delusion. That's the thing, there's nothing stopping girls from asking for the moon on SA. No matter how many times they claim their time is valuable, in reality it's worth exactly what they get in their shitty jobs working at the mall or waitressing. And that's around minimum wage. So yeah, they can spend hours and hours wasting their time on SA. Why should they care? Their time is worth so little.
https://www.seeking.com/member/489b9a5f-5299-4512-96f2-826858d04399
Hi.
I'm going to be upfront to save us time. I'm new here and don't want to waste either of our time. My ppm is 800. This is not to say if something were to continue and become a regular thing that we both enjoy but one does not know whether or not something is to continue until it happens so that's where I currently stand. Prior to now I wasn't being this upfront with people but I met someone today who wanted to do 300 for ppm and honestly it was a waste of time. As I'm not doing that. So just wanted to not waste your time.
Thank god she didn't waste my time. LOL.
HollywoodGuy
02-06-19, 12:15
My live-in likes to think of herself as a barbie doll. A lot of girls have this fantasy. Here is her latest incarnation.
They are matching you based on information you are unaware that you are providing.
Use a VPN service to mask your IP.
Use Incognito Mode in your browser, Chrome or Firefox suggested, not IE / Edge / Safari.
Use a different (new) email address.
Use a Vanilla One card (can also use this same card to buy VPN services).
Use a different phone number, even in messages you send to other members (use a secondary phone app ontop of your phone or a burner phone).
*tracfone can be had for about $100 + $125 for a year of prepaid service OR a few dollars a month for a phone app.
Use a different name.
Use different photos (crop reverse, and rename existing photos so they can't match based on photo contents).
If you do all of the above, they can't match you.All of the above is good advice. There are some alternate browsers like Brave that block ads by default. I wouldn't suggest Chrome at this point as Google is tracking everything that you do regardless. Not that it would matter in this specific instance, they just aren't a good or transparent player when it comes to privacy. Don't use their email services, either. If you run Firefox, at a minimum install some privacy extensions like Ublock Origin (blocks ads), Privacy Badger (Stops internet trackers), HTTPS Everywhere (Tries to keep you on encrypted sites if they are available), DuckDuckGo has a good privacy advice plugin as well. Use the DuckDuckGo search engine as an alternative to Google / Bing / Yahoo when you can. Install Facebook Containers Plugin to keep their prying eyes out of your business. Remember that Instagram and Whatsapp all belong to Facebook. Hell, at this point I wouldn't even suggest an Android based phone. Go for an Iphone SE or a used iphone6. Apple is much more interested in preserving your privacy. I know Google Voice is convenient, but avoid it if you can.
I never seem to tire of the petite spinners. 5'2" Supposed to see her tomorrow night.Whatever happened with that one, did she flake out or did she go through with the date? If so what was the dmg on that?
All of the above is good advice. There are some alternate browsers like Brave that block ads by default. I wouldn't suggest Chrome at this point as Google is tracking everything that you do regardless. Not that it would matter in this specific instance, they just aren't a good or transparent player when it comes to privacy. Don't use their email services, either. If you run Firefox, at a minimum install some privacy extensions like Ublock Origin (blocks ads), Privacy Badger (Stops internet trackers), HTTPS Everywhere (Tries to keep you on encrypted sites if they are available), DuckDuckGo has a good privacy advice plugin as well. Use the DuckDuckGo search engine as an alternative to Google / Bing / Yahoo when you can. Install Facebook Containers Plugin to keep their prying eyes out of your business. Remember that Instagram and Whatsapp all belong to Facebook. Hell, at this point I wouldn't even suggest an Android based phone. Go for an Iphone SE or a used iphone6. Apple is much more interested in preserving your privacy. I know Google Voice is convenient, but avoid it if you can.This is all super great advice in reply to my problem, thanks guys. I currently have implemented a private VPN and so far so good. Account was immediately approved in all areas so that's a good sign.
HollywoodGuy
02-07-19, 04:22
Whatever happened with that one, did she flake out or did she go through with the date? If so what was the dmg on that?The agreed upon rate is a $ as usual. But she is not exactly next door to me and as a first time date I would need a room. So the bottom line. Due to the extra time and expense I have shined her on for now. She is a UTR... so she is not going anywhere. I can tap that ass anytime. And I would like to, but the girl in post 3668 is in my area and 5 years younger (18). I missed her today, but may try to see her tomorrow at least for an M&G. She is about as fresh as they come.
HollywoodGuy
02-07-19, 04:28
This is all super great advice in reply to my problem, thanks guys. I currently have implemented a private VPN and so far so good. Account was immediately approved in all areas so that's a good sign.Awesome. Please keep us updated and quit being so bold online. Take these girls to email or txt when getting specific.
Awesome. Please keep us updated and quit being so bold online. Take these girls to email or txt when getting specific.Dude I swear literally I never even said anything to anybody. I never gave out any specifics I never did anything, I literally didn't even have a premium account yet so I couldn't even pm anyone. The staff who moderate SA seeking are a pack of monkeys swinging from trees and randomly banning people all over the place for no reason.
The agreed upon rate is a $ as usual. But she is not exactly next door to me and as a first time date I would need a room. So the bottom line. Due to the extra time and expense I have shined her on for now. She is a UTR... so she is not going anywhere. I can tap that ass anytime. And I would like to, but the girl in post 3668 is in my area and 5 years younger (18). I missed her today, but may try to see her tomorrow at least for an M&G. She is about as fresh as they come.Okay I have this one question that's really been burning in my mind. Suppose you set up the date and get the room, usually how much time do you get with the girl? Like are you still only getting an hour or is it more or what is usually implied by a "date"? The reason I ask is because I've only ever used pros and of course with them it's always a rate for a half hour or hour. I'm wondering if things are different when you have a SB?
HollywoodGuy
02-07-19, 12:18
Okay I have this one question that's really been burning in my mind. Suppose you set up the date and get the room, usually how much time do you get with the girl? Like are you still only getting an hour or is it more or what is usually implied by a "date"? The reason I ask is because I've only ever used pros and of course with them it's always a rate for a half hour or hour. I'm wondering if things are different when you have a SB?The rooms I rent are for 2 hours. So I try to use up the the whole two hours. They may be UTR/pro or SB. The UTR/pro is going to go for an hour to 90 minutes. The SB usually the whole two hours. I like to get busy in minutes, so no time wasted. With a regular SB I will get a room for the night to ensure multiple (at least two romps in the sheets) Three if I can manage it.
It's impossible for me to use Seeking, I get banned every time I make an account there no matter what. Even if I didn't write anything yet in my profile or even contact anyone I always get banned within a few days. Support is garbage, they never explain why I'm banned, they refuse to even open a dialog with me and then they tell me not to even bother contacting them again because they will just ignore my support ticket anyway. That is so fucking stupid, I've wasted so much time and I lost a ton of progress from all the memebers who sent me PMs.Maybe you could surf the web using a VPN and that way they won't know that it's you. I think that it's your IP # that gives you away.
HollywoodGuy
02-07-19, 19:34
I think tomorrow I may get a room for the night and just see who shows up. I have at least 2 POTS and my GF to choose from. lol. Kinda risky but my current no-tel of choice is packed like every weekend these days
It's impossible for me to use Seeking, I get banned every time I make an account there no matter what. Even if I didn't write anything yet in my profile or even contact anyone I always get banned within a few days. Support is garbage, they never explain why I'm banned, they refuse to even open a dialog with me and then they tell me not to even bother contacting them again because they will just ignore my support ticket anyway. That is so fucking stupid, I've wasted so much time and I lost a ton of progress from all the memebers who sent me PMs.If you want to get on back on seeking without getting banned do this.
Change your modem / router this would give you a new IP adress (vpn works but there are a hit or miss) just get a new one to be 100 sure. I say buy a used one for cheap.
Seeking keeps record of MAC addresses that have been banned so you might have to get a new phone or computer.
Use target gift cards to pay your subscription don't use your real name or names you used before (I get 100 target visa gift cards).
Don't ask girls directly for sex ask for their numbers or emails.
Idk if other ways work but this will 100% work.
HollywoodGuy
02-08-19, 14:47
My GF / ATF was banned from seeking. Looks like the girls have to be just as cautious as the guys. But I have girls that message me straight up for PPM. I guess the guy would have to complain? Or maybe the sites software can pick up keywords in the messaging? To get a list of banned keywords just put the word (s) in the Profile Text. If they say there are no such profiles, you probably should not be using that word. PPM is a good example. Lots of girls have it in their profile, but if you search for it, it comes up blank.
Signed up the other day I used a 100 Target MasterCard gift card. Works fine on SA just filled in a fake name Address zip. Works like a charm. HG if you got any girls down here in IE on SA that like it raw dog for $ or 1. 5 let me know.
HollywoodGuy
02-08-19, 23:52
Signed up the other day I used a 100 Target MasterCard gift card. Works fine on SA just filled in a fake name Address zip. Works like a charm. HG if you got any girls down here in IE on SA that like it raw dog for $ or 1. 5 let me know.You will have no trouble finding them. From covina / pomona to San B, and everywhere in between. Easy pickings dude. I can't go there. Too far.
I met this crazy hot light skinned or mixed black girl from SA. Truly in college at CSUN. She came over and looking at her I was in heaven. After a few minutes she said "lets go to bed". Natural fantastic body, shaved, etc. She swung around and wanted 69, all of a sudden a whiff of yeast infection nastiness hit me. My little pecker sunk from full mast to nothing. She is like what happened? I should have told her you need to clean yourself and get some treatment. She was so young and nice I just said I realized I have to get t work. In hindsight I should have done us all a public service but felt bad.
I met this crazy hot light skinned or mixed black girl from SA. Truly in college at CSUN. She came over and looking at her I was in heaven. After a few minutes she said "lets go to bed". Natural fantastic body, shaved, etc. She swung around and wanted 69, all of a sudden a whiff of yeast infection nastiness hit me. My little pecker sunk from full mast to nothing. She is like what happened? I should have told her you need to clean yourself and get some treatment. She was so young and nice I just said I realized I have to get t work. In hindsight I should have done us all a public service but felt bad.Yep, seems to be an epidemic! See my post #3659 on the next page.
I met this crazy hot light skinned or mixed black girl from SA. Truly in college at CSUN. She came over and looking at her I was in heaven. After a few minutes she said "lets go to bed". Natural fantastic body, shaved, etc. She swung around and wanted 69, all of a sudden a whiff of yeast infection nastiness hit me. My little pecker sunk from full mast to nothing. She is like what happened? I should have told her you need to clean yourself and get some treatment. She was so young and nice I just said I realized I have to get t work. In hindsight I should have done us all a public service but felt bad.I loled at this report, thanks. Seriously hygiene is important in this business, bad odor will kill the most raging boner. I'm that way and lot of guys I know are that way. I had an AFT that I was crazy for, was horny for her every single session, one time I came over and her ass was booming. Clearly she had just done the nasty nasty and didn't bathe before my session. I told her to hit the shower or I was leaving, she apologized and never did that again. You're clearly a gentlemen but you should have told ms thing to wash her crouch, the situation is unacceptable.
I met this crazy hot light skinned or mixed black girl from SA. Truly in college at CSUN. She came over and looking at her I was in heaven. After a few minutes she said "lets go to bed". Natural fantastic body, shaved, etc. She swung around and wanted 69, all of a sudden a whiff of yeast infection nastiness hit me. My little pecker sunk from full mast to nothing. She is like what happened? I should have told her you need to clean yourself and get some treatment. She was so young and nice I just said I realized I have to get t work. In hindsight I should have done us all a public service but felt bad.Should have touched her puss and let her smell it!
HollywoodGuy
02-16-19, 08:41
Casually working a few profiles. But I already hit the FC 10 times this month with my GF / ATF.
1 - working on her.
2 - GPS. But still talking.
3 - down for a $.
4 - down for $$.
5 - working on her.
6 - GF / ATF.
Casually working a few profiles. But I already hit the FC 10 times this month with my GF / ATF.
1 - working on her.
2 - GPS. But still talking.
3 - down for a $.
4 - down for $$.
5 - working on her.
6 - GF / ATF.#3 said she was down for $ with me last week but then flaked out twice and had crappy communication. I sense that she plays games. Found her reviews on them anyway, she's 140/ hr and going by the reviews I wasn't impressed. #1 IMO is purely bullshitting around based on my communications with her. As for #2, I look forward to hearing if you make any progress with her. Here's hoping.
So far my personal experience on SA hasn't been great. Some of the lesser attractive girls seem to be DTF right away but none of the better looking ones had any follow through. I have tons of interest to go through though and admittedly I haven't reached out to too many pots yet. I blew my hobby cash anyway for this month on HX pros, I couldn't wait around any longer for these game player SB's who aren't sure if they want to fuck or not.
HollywoodGuy
02-16-19, 12:40
#3 said she was down for $ with me last week but then flaked out twice and had crappy communication. I sense that she plays games. Found her reviews on them anyway, she's 140/ hr and going by the reviews I wasn't impressed. #1 IMO is purely bullshitting around based on my communications with her. As for #2, I look forward to hearing if you make any progress with her. Here's hoping.
So far my personal experience on SA hasn't been great. Some of the lesser attractive girls seem to be DTF right away but none of the better looking ones had any follow through. I have tons of interest to go through though and admittedly I haven't reached out to too many pots yet. I blew my hobby cash anyway for this month on HX pros, I couldn't wait around any longer for these game player SB's who aren't sure if they want to fuck or not.I told #3 that if she was going to make me her backup plan please do not make a date with me, as I realize that with a decent looking UTR that that could happen. I actually flaked on her. But I still wouldn't mind getting a taste of that tiny body. 5'2" 100 lbs.
#2 was talking like 5-10 benjis and I was talking like how about less than $$. No reply as of yet.
#1 could be had if you are willing to do an M&G and test your game. She agreed to a $$ per week allowance. But she is far from me (santa monica) and no discussion of what that would require other than her meeting me at the no-tel. No reply yet.
One of the keys to success on SA is to have a regular or two to take the pressure off while you are looking. Otherwise your frustration / anxiety which comes from impatience is going to make you dip below your attractiveness bar to stay on budget (which BTW has gotten me some very hot sex from average looking girls) or you will overspend to get what you want (on SA or where ever).
Another like you said is to reach out to a lot of girls. I am constantly flaking on $ girls just because there are so many. Half the time its because they are too far away (the cute ones) and the other half because they are not cute enough (the close by ones). Living near DTLA makes it tough because the more affordable girls are going to be more in the burbs. (with south central being the exception). Far away being more than a .2 RT uber ride. And at .4 RT its very tough even at a $ including the no-tel (another .4). Now you are up to $.8. At that price they better be hot. And with still no guarantee of the quality of service, it's a lot to think about.
But anywhere past covina, or south central, long beach, inglewood, azuza, fullerton, whittier, san berdu, n sfv, santa clarita, lancaster / palmdale You get the drift. Mostly those are going to be black and latina. Age wise, could be any age, but seems like the older they are the more expensive they get. I have had plenty of hot younger girls when mommy / daddy are still putting a roof over their head.
I told #3 that if she was going to make me her backup plan please do not make a date with me, as I realize that with a decent looking UTR that that could happen. I actually flaked on her. But I still wouldn't mind getting a taste of that tiny body. 5'2" 100 lbs.
#2 was talking like 5-10 benjis and I was talking like how about less than $$. No reply as of yet.
#1 could be had if you are willing to do an M&G and test your game. She agreed to a $$ per week allowance. But she is far from me (santa monica) and no discussion of what that would require other than her meeting me at the no-tel. No reply yet.
One of the keys to success on SA is to have a regular or two to take the pressure off while you are looking. Otherwise your frustration / anxiety which comes from impatience is going to make you dip below your attractiveness bar to stay on budget (which BTW has gotten me some very hot sex from average looking girls) or you will overspend to get what you want (on SA or where ever).
Another like you said is to reach out to a lot of girls. I am constantly flaking on $ girls just because there are so many. Half the time its because they are too far away (the cute ones) and the other half because they are not cute enough (the close by ones). Living near DTLA makes it tough because the more affordable girls are going to be more in the burbs. (with south central being the exception). Far away being more than a .2 RT uber ride. And at .4 RT its very tough even at a $ including the no-tel (another .4). Now you are up to $.8. At that price they better be hot. And with still no guarantee of the quality of service, it's a lot to think about.
But anywhere past covina, or south central, long beach, inglewood, azuza, fullerton, whittier, san berdu, n sfv, santa clarita, lancaster / palmdale You get the drift. Mostly those are going to be black and latina. Age wise, could be any age, but seems like the older they are the more expensive they get. I have had plenty of hot younger girls when mommy / daddy are still putting a roof over their head.Good tips. I have so many PMs open I'm all mixed up, I'm not so sure who #1 was, that's dolce lucia right? (if not who is she?) Oh I wanted to ask, what's your opinion on SB's located in expensive places like Beverly Hills, Malibu, etc? You think it's even worth contacting them or do you not bother due to the fact they probably expect elite SDs?
what's your opinion on SB's located in expensive places like Beverly Hills, Malibu, etc? You think it's even worth contacting them or do you not bother due to the fact they probably expect elite SDs?Girls can put any city they want in SA. Likely they don't live there but like to pretend they do. They're most likely GPS but you can always contact them and see their level of need. You never know, after a long time of no offers they might become more reasonable.
FarFarAway
02-17-19, 11:46
Girls can put any city they want in SA. Likely they don't live there but like to pretend they do. They're most likely GPS but you can always contact them and see their level of need. You never know, after a long time of no offers they might become more reasonable.I agree w / HG. Girls can and do list any city, they do it to select for the kind of guy they fantasize hooking. I always include in early messaging something to the effect of 'IK girls don't always list their actual city, it's a safety thing on the web, but if you weren't at least near me, it would be hard to meet'. I have had people list my local OC upscale city who weren't even in my county. And counties in CA are big!
HollywoodGuy
02-17-19, 12:11
Good tips. I have so many PMs open I'm all mixed up, I'm not so sure who #1 was, that's dolce lucia right? (if not who is she?) Oh I wanted to ask, what's your opinion on SB's located in expensive places like Beverly Hills, Malibu, etc? You think it's even worth contacting them or do you not bother due to the fact they probably expect elite SDs?Each pic has a number associated with it. Just hover your cursor over the pic and you will see the number. The girls that list their address as beverly hills never live there. So go for it. Malibu, I can not say as its too far away for me to think about them. Most likely none of them live there (unless they are white). But somewhere near there. Or maybe they go to pepperdine or SMCC
Each pic has a number associated with it. Just hover your cursor over the pic and you will see the number. The girls that list their address as beverly hills never live there. So go for it. Malibu, I can not say as its too far away for me to think about them. Most likely none of them live there (unless they are white). But somewhere near there. Or maybe they go to pepperdine or SMCCI can't find the account so that must be a different girl, I looked through a every account in the Santa Monica area and didn't come across that image. What's her user name or direct link please. Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
02-19-19, 01:23
I can't find the account so that must be a different girl, I looked through a every account in the Santa Monica area and didn't come across that image. What's her user name or direct link please. Thanks.Her location was listed as Los angeles. And that pic is not in her public profile. Already lost her profile.
Her location was listed as Los angeles. And that pic is not in her public profile. Already lost her profile.You lost the profile of a girl that hot? Well it should be in your email because every time I correspond with anyone there's a copy of who it was in my email box.
HollywoodGuy
02-19-19, 11:01
You lost the profile of a girl that hot? Well it should be in your email because every time I correspond with anyone there's a copy of who it was in my email box.I have so many dozens of girls hitting me up every month, that the only way I can mange them is to hide their profiles when they don't follow through. I looked in my hidden file, but don't see her. She was a noob, so she may have deleted her profile. The only profiles I save are in my inbox (still working on them) or in my favorites (agreed to my terms). I basically delete or hide everyone else.
https://www.seeking.com/settings/hidden-members
Now that's organized!
I have so many dozens of girls hitting me up every month, that the only way I can mange them is to hide their profiles when they don't follow through. I looked in my hidden file, but don't see her. She was a noob, so she may have deleted her profile. The only profiles I save are in my inbox (still working on them) or in my favorites (agreed to my terms). I basically delete or hide everyone else.
https://www.seeking.com/settings/hidden-members
HollywoodGuy
02-20-19, 00:22
Today was the first time in 10 months that my GF / ATF turned me down for sex. She was like "Daddy my pussy is sore". I let her slide with a BJ (like I had a choice). Then I checked my spreadsheet. We hit the FC 14 times in 16 days. I always laugh when a girl says something in her profile like she wants a guy that can keep up with her. And they wonder why we have multiple girls.
It's impossible for me to use Seeking, I get banned every time I make an account there no matter what. Even if I didn't write anything yet in my profile or even contact anyone I always get banned within a few days. Support is garbage, they never explain why I'm banned, they refuse to even open a dialog with me and then they tell me not to even bother contacting them again because they will just ignore my support ticket anyway. That is so fucking stupid, I've wasted so much time and I lost a ton of progress from all the memebers who sent me PMs.Well hopefully this makes it past the moderation babysitting,
[Deleted by Admin]
No, it didn't and it never will so long as you're being a dick.
Why in the hell are you putting them in the command prompt to do something that won't work when all they have to do is unplug the router and take a dump then plug it back in. The IP they are worried about isn't their local IP address it's the public IP addy the modem is sitting on, ipconfig release/refresh doesn't change that.
Here's what you do: Open a browser go here https://www.whatismyip.com/ write down your IP address. On a desktop it will be "public IP 4 address, (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx)on a smart device it will be Public IP 6 address (xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx)
UNPLUG your modem/router. Make a sandwich and sit down and watch an episode of some sitcom and have a beer. Go take a piss. Plug your modem back in or turn your phone back on and go to the above website and see if your public IP will be different.
Better yet spend 100 bucks and get a three year subscription to Nord VPN and change it as often as you want.
A2
Never done SB / SD before; I just monger with K-girls. Can somebody give me the advantages of doing this SB / SD thing over me throwing down 3 bills and getting exactly what I want, when I want from a K-girl? To me, the only downside of K-girls is that they're usually in their 30's.
Thanks and sorry for being a complete noob about the SB / SD scene.
City Slicker
02-20-19, 15:50
I am trying to set up something with her but she is firm at $600. She say it is for 5 hours of fun. So I might just take the dive. My membership will expire in 2 days. Any 411 on this hottie?
https://www.seeking.com/member/8302ba16-310a-4342-b533-2f990224432e
OcasianBoy
02-20-19, 18:07
I am trying to set up something with her but she is firm at $600. She say it is for 5 hours of fun. So I might just take the dive. My membership will expire in 2 days. Any 411 on this hottie?
https://www.seeking.com/member/8302ba16-310a-4342-b533-2f990224432eHer face sure looks like Kim K for sure. She's pretty with a nice body but $600 is high at least for me. If you can go for 5 hours and she does what you like / want, go for it. There's a hot girl in the SD board that a guy found for 3. If you decide to hit her up, let us know how it went.
HollywoodGuy
02-20-19, 21:11
I am trying to set up something with her but she is firm at $600. She say it is for 5 hours of fun. So I might just take the dive. My membership will expire in 2 days. Any 411 on this hottie?
https://www.seeking.com/member/8302ba16-310a-4342-b533-2f990224432eUnless your dick can stay hard for 5 hours. It seems like at least 3 of hours will be wasted.
HollywoodGuy
02-20-19, 21:12
Never done SB / SD before; I just monger with K-girls. Can somebody give me the advantages of doing this SB / SD thing over me throwing down 3 bills and getting exactly what I want, when I want from a K-girl? To me, the only downside of K-girls is that they're usually in their 30's.
Thanks and sorry for being a complete noob about the SB / SD scene.30"s? Ok so you answered your own question. Also if you like GFE or more, like a real GF, that's the difference. Just one of many.
OcasianBoy
02-20-19, 22:03
30"s? Ok so you answered your own question. Also if you like GFE or more, like a real GF, that's the difference. Just one of many.It's for 3. Sorry.
30"s? Ok so you answered your own question. Also if you like GFE or more, like a real GF, that's the difference. Just one of many.Can you book an appointment just once? Or do they all require some sort of guaranteed monthly or weekly amount on an ongoing basis? Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
02-21-19, 03:57
Can you book an appointment just once? Or do they all require some sort of guaranteed monthly or weekly amount on an ongoing basis? Thanks.I only do ppm. But have done monthly in the past when I could afford it (or maybe I was just a little less educated on the subject). Every scenario is different. Today I have a girl paying me rent (but no more benefits, except for some hugs and kisses and her rent paid on time in benji's). A girl that sleeps with me that pays all her own bills (and after 6 years is more like a wife). And a GF that I pay all our expenses (which are high)(rooms, meals, party favors), but no sugar. So basically I have three young hot girls in my life on a daily basis giving, spending (or not spending) varying levels of cash, with varying levels of emotional intimacy and sex... that adds up to a zero $um game.
If I have any extra time or money I do PPM for a $ plus the room and uber if any. And very few girls get past the first date. Either they aren't good enough for me or I am too cheap for them. The ones that do go past a date or two, its because there is a connection. (emotionally, physically, and financially). I know there are ppl that read this and say its BS, that an 18 or 20 year old is not gonna fall in love with a 65 year old. But it happens.
Girls fall in love with guys that regularly beat the crap out them, spend all their money, etc,. etc., so its not too hard to imagine a girl falling for someone that takes care of them (no matter their age). I also only LTR girls that identify as princesses, baby girls, bunnies, kitties, little, etc. Typically fragile all around.
New to posting but have been gaining knowledge and lurking for a while.
Thank you Hollywood Guy and everyone else who has helped me along the way.
Has anyone dated this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/e45abc49-912e-4275-b5ea-cf3753906ab8
Been trying to get her allowance to a reasonable amount and curious if anyone has experience with her?
I only do ppm. But have done monthly in the past when I could afford it (or maybe I was just a little less educated on the subject). Every scenario is different. Today I have a girl paying me rent (but no more benefits, except for some hugs and kisses and her rent paid on time in benji's). A girl that sleeps with me that pays all her own bills (and after 6 years is more like a wife). And a GF that I pay all our expenses (which are high)(rooms, meals, party favors), but no sugar. So basically I have three young hot girls in my life on a daily basis giving, spending (or not spending) varying levels of cash, with varying levels of emotional intimacy and sex... that adds up to a zero $um game.
If I have any extra time or money I do PPM for a $ plus the room and uber if any. And very few girls get past the first date. Either they aren't good enough for me or I am too cheap for them. The ones that do go past a date or two, its because there is a connection. (emotionally, physically, and financially). I know there are ppl that read this and say its BS, that an 18 or 20 year old is not gonna fall in love with a 65 year old. But it happens.
Girls fall in love with guys that regularly beat the crap out them, spend all their money, etc,. etc., so its not too hard to imagine a girl falling for someone that takes care of them (no matter their age). I also only LTR girls that identify as princesses, baby girls, bunnies, kitties, little, etc. Typically fragile all around.Great insights. What is PPM and what is LTR?
Thanks.
Great insights. What is PPM and what is LTR?
Thanks.Pay Per Meet and Long Term Relationship.
OcasianBoy
02-21-19, 18:49
Great insights. What is PPM and what is LTR?
Thanks.PPM is pay per meeting.
LTR is long term relationship.
Luckystonewood
02-21-19, 19:31
PPM is Pay Per Meet and LTR is Long Term Relationship.
Cheers,
LS.
Great insights. What is PPM and what is LTR?
Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
02-21-19, 21:44
New to posting but have been gaining knowledge and lurking for a while.
Thank you Hollywood Guy and everyone else who has helped me along the way.
Has anyone dated this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/e45abc49-912e-4275-b5ea-cf3753906ab8
Been trying to get her allowance to a reasonable amount and curious if anyone has experience with her?A real hottie for sure. Not going to be cheap. Whats her ppm?
PPM is Pay Per Meet and LTR is Long Term Relationship.
Cheers,
LS.What's the price range on PPM? And you guys are talking a lot about hotels. Is there a reason not to have the meet at your house?
Thanks!
Been seeing her a few times lately. The issue is that she is a bit far from me and doesn't have a reliable way to get around. I either have to pick her up or order her an uber. But, she does give an amazing head game and game for anything. She's 18 going on 19 and has quite the daddy issues.Are you willing to share info.
City Slicker
02-22-19, 13:19
Her face sure looks like Kim K for sure. She's pretty with a nice body but $600 is high at least for me. If you can go for 5 hours and she does what you like / want, go for it. There's a hot girl in the SD board that a guy found for 3. If you decide to hit her up, let us know how it went.Well I tried to talk her down to $4 but she said I was cheap and then all of sudden blocked me. Oh well, on to the next. I have something set up with this hottie below. And she is not cheap either but have sent me nudes and can host which is a plus.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6987d6b0-59d6-412d-acbc-d7a9b65f7360
FarFarAway
02-22-19, 14:40
Well I tried to talk her down to $4 but she said I was cheap and then all of sudden blocked me. Oh well, on to the next. I have something set up with this hottie below. And she is not cheap either but have sent me nudes and can host which is a plus.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6987d6b0-59d6-412d-acbc-d7a9b65f7360That girl looks great! And hosting addresses a host of issues. If you can get her for four, I'd jump.
NutritionFacts
02-22-19, 16:52
Always been wanting to tag team / mfm an sb. Anyone know anyone interested?
Well I tried to talk her down to $4 but she said I was cheap and then all of sudden blocked me. Oh well, on to the next. I have something set up with this hottie below. And she is not cheap either but have sent me nudes and can host which is a plus.
https://www.seeking.com/member/6987d6b0-59d6-412d-acbc-d7a9b65f7360She looks decent but $600 seems like a waste to me unless you are on a high roller hobby budget. She said you get 5 hrs but that seems mostly wasted because how long can you fuck really? Maybe 2 hrs tops, nobody fucks longer than that so the rest is all just hanging out talking. That's a lot of cheddar for talk. I say she's greedy and would have done well to take the $400 for a single date, you know damn well she's not making that kind of money at work. These girls must believe the hype that SA is filled with desperate millionaires just looking to give out stacks of cash for a peck on the cheek.
She looks decent but $600 seems like a waste to me unless you are on a high roller hobby budget. She said you get 5 hrs but that seems mostly wasted because how long can you fuck really? Maybe 2 hrs tops, nobody fucks longer than that so the rest is all just hanging out talking. That's a lot of cheddar for talk. I say she's greedy and would have done well to take the $400 for a single date, you know damn well she's not making that kind of money at work. These girls must believe the hype that SA is filled with desperate millionaires just looking to give out stacks of cash for a peck on the cheek.Yes, even Robert Kraft is keeping on eye on his budget by going to spas rather than SD route (what a bummer that is for him, if it's true about the cameras. And I give him props for keeping his irons in the fire despite his age and social status; can't be easy to do when you're that well known).
I am trying to set up something with her but she is firm at $600. She say it is for 5 hours of fun. So I might just take the dive. My membership will expire in 2 days. Any 411 on this hottie?
https://www.seeking.com/member/8302ba16-310a-4342-b533-2f990224432eCan someone screenshot this profile?
Says its disabled for me.
HollywoodGuy
02-23-19, 23:16
Can someone screenshot this profile?
Says its disabled for me.They deactivated their account.
HollywoodGuy
02-24-19, 12:27
I am right handed but almost always finger / feel up girls with my left hand. And most always prefer to position the girl to my left to make that easier.
What about you?
Your story got me very curious and I had to ask. Ofcourse, if its not my business and you can choose not to answer. Of the three girls you're hosting it appears that you are getting favors from only one. Is it because you consider it as a work in progress and you plan on getting more favors as time goes by or you basically enjoy the complex dynamics of the way it is set up? I mean what would be the end game plan out of this situation.
I only do ppm. But have done monthly in the past when I could afford it (or maybe I was just a little less educated on the subject). Every scenario is different. Today I have a girl paying me rent (but no more benefits, except for some hugs and kisses and her rent paid on time in benji's). A girl that sleeps with me that pays all her own bills (and after 6 years is more like a wife). And a GF that I pay all our expenses (which are high)(rooms, meals, party favors), but no sugar. So basically I have three young hot girls in my life on a daily basis giving, spending (or not spending) varying levels of cash, with varying levels of emotional intimacy and sex... that adds up to a zero $um game.
If I have any extra time or money I do PPM for a $ plus the room and uber if any. And very few girls get past the first date. Either they aren't good enough for me or I am too cheap for them. The ones that do go past a date or two, its because there is a connection. (emotionally, physically, and financially). I know there are ppl that read this and say its BS, that an 18 or 20 year old is not gonna fall in love with a 65 year old. But it happens.
Girls fall in love with guys that regularly beat the crap out them, spend all their money, etc,. etc., so its not too hard to imagine a girl falling for someone that takes care of them (no matter their age). I also only LTR girls that identify as princesses, baby girls, bunnies, kitties, little, etc. Typically fragile all around.
I would like to pose this question to the SA veterans like HollywoodGuy who are verysuccessful in squeezing so much honey from SA time and again. I'd imagine they have a working method to the madness. When I had the premium subscription with SA I was hit by hundreds of potential SBs. Then they will go ghost on me at various stages of our conversation or the profile would disappear and the same girl would reappear with a different SA handle. If SA allows to download the contacts and conversations it would be lot easier. Given that they don't allow that and the website can be painfully slow and glitchy what are the golden rules that you abide by? How do you keep yourself sane by not getting drowned into a rabbit hole? Appreciate any useful tips. Thanks.
HollywoodGuy
02-24-19, 18:28
Your story got me very curious and I had to ask. Ofcourse, if its not my business and you can choose not to answer. Of the three girls you're hosting it appears that you are getting favors from only one. Is it because you consider it as a work in progress and you plan on getting more favors as time goes by or you basically enjoy the complex dynamics of the way it is set up? I mean what would be the end game plan out of this situation.The roommate, nothing. But if I really pushed her she would. But hey, she is paying me. We had about 50 trips to the FC before the honeymoon was over. The "wifey", we do it occasionally. She is my best friend. She would not turn me down if I asked, but I rarely ask. Although sometimes in the middle of the nite she will surprise me. The GF, we do it non-stop. Like almost 30 trips to the FC so far this year. And yeah, it's cool the way it is for now. It's mostly a money thing. I don't have much. : ( . When things get better I am sure I will make some adjustments. Also I like the company. There is never a shortage of kissing, cuddling and conversation. And when I am ready for some PSE I go to the GF or try out a new girl.
While conceivably, (I don't like that word) I'd consider $500 for a stunning, smart sexual nympho, you have no idea how someone will vibe with you till you fuck her. Many of the prettier girls will ask for $500, but so long as you are not disgusting or over 60, I think they will all have sex for $400. Many will do $300 + uber if you make them believe it will be a regular hook up.
That is also a secret, make it clear you want a regular thing out of it if you guys get along. And if you don't like her, then you know she should have tried her best on the first date.
Never just send money, always PPM. Look, they are just amateur hookers. The main differnece is they have "feelings" and don't want to feel like they are ******, even if they are.
FarFarAway
02-25-19, 01:10
I would like to pose this question to the SA veterans like HollywoodGuy who are verysuccessful in squeezing so much honey from SA time and again. I'd imagine they have a working method to the madness. When I had the premium subscription with SA I was hit by hundreds of potential SBs. Then they will go ghost on me at various stages of our conversation or the profile would disappear and the same girl would reappear with a different SA handle. If SA allows to download the contacts and conversations it would be lot easier. Given that they don't allow that and the website can be painfully slow and glitchy what are the golden rules that you abide by? How do you keep yourself sane by not getting drowned into a rabbit hole? Appreciate any useful tips. Thanks.Hide your SA profile from search. That way, you pick who you are in contact w / . It cuts way down on the scammer messages. I do it for safety too, I pretty much know I don't know the POT before she ever sees my profile. They only know you viewed them, and then they can see your profile.
While conceivably, (I don't like that word) I'd consider $500 for a stunning, smart sexual nympho, you have no idea how someone will vibe with you till you fuck her. Many of the prettier girls will ask for $500, but so long as you are not disgusting or over 60, I think they will all have sex for $400. Many will do $300 + uber if you make them believe it will be a regular hook up.
That is also a secret, make it clear you want a regular thing out of it if you guys get along. And if you don't like her, then you know she should have tried her best on the first date.
Never just send money, always PPM. Look, they are just amateur hookers. The main differnece is they have "feelings" and don't want to feel like they are ******, even if they are.I assume that you pay cash for PPM, correct? And is there any reason not to use my house as a meet location? Everybody here is talking about hotels and motels, but why not use my nice comfortable house?
Thanks for the insight- much appreciated!
I assume that you pay cash for PPM, correct? And is there any reason not to use my house as a meet location? Everybody here is talking about hotels and motels, but why not use my nice comfortable house?
Thanks for the insight- much appreciated!Dude! Because most of these girls will go batshit insane on you in a heartbeat. Yes, there are a handful of gems on there looking for their daddy and she's always sweet and she's polite and she will not make waves for you and is a great girl all-around. And then there's the majority of girls who have moderate to extreme levels of self-entiltlements, absolutely love to make drama, or are downright cold calculating scammers. Go ahead, place your bet now.
HollywoodGuy
02-25-19, 15:58
I assume that you pay cash for PPM, correct? And is there any reason not to use my house as a meet location? Everybody here is talking about hotels and motels, but why not use my nice comfortable house?
Thanks for the insight- much appreciated!Most girls don't take credit cards. LOL. And I used to use my house all the time, but due to having a live in GF I started using no-tels. I wish I would have done that years ago. No reason for a girl you are going to bang once or twice needing to know where you live.
Most girls don't take credit cards. LOL. And I used to use my house all the time, but due to having a live in GF I started using no-tels. I wish I would have done that years ago. No reason for a girl you are going to bang once or twice needing to know where you live.I didn't mean cc's; I thought these girls would have PayPal or Patreon accounts set up so that dudes could pay them online. Never mind! :) thanks.
Dude! Because most of these girls will go batshit insane on you in a heartbeat. Yes, there are a handful of gems on there looking for their daddy and she's always sweet and she's polite and she will not make waves for you and is a great girl all-around. And then there's the majority of girls who have moderate to extreme levels of self-entiltlements, absolutely love to make drama, or are downright cold calculating scammers. Go ahead, place your bet now.Gotcha. I was thinking more like they were professionals, but they're really (genuinely) civilians. I get it now! It's like taking home a hardcore **** from a bar -- anything can happen.
SirHandsome007
02-26-19, 15:40
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No pimps and you are obviously either a pimp, promoter, or maybe the chick.
In any event fuck off
A2
DavidTheSancho
02-26-19, 18:16
Does anyone else get mad when these girls just want to meet during working hours in the day. What fantasy are they living in where they get $300 just for coffee dates regularly yet claim to live out of their car and expect their SD to just bend to their schedule. Boggles my mind. Okay rant over.
I was intrigued enough to join last night and spent an hour reviewing local L. A. SB's on the site. Damn, now I think I get what you mofos are talking about. There is a lot of hot young pussy on that site. More than I expected. Now it looks like I'm going to find out just how crazy / sleazy / scammy they are! But it's been a while since I fucked a cute 20 year-old, so I guess it's worth the potential of unlocking Pandora's box of craziness.
I also watched a lot of YouTube videos from SB's who complain at great length about Splenda Daddies and Salt Daddies, so it looks like it's a big pileup of drama.
HollywoodGuy
02-27-19, 06:32
Does anyone else get mad when these girls just want to meet during working hours in the day. What fantasy are they living in where they get $300 just for coffee dates regularly yet claim to live out of their car and expect their SD to just bend to their schedule. Boggles my mind. Okay rant over.No reason to get mad when there are so many willing and eager to please girls to choose from.
City Slicker
02-27-19, 16:52
I was intrigued enough to join last night and spent an hour reviewing local L. A. SB's on the site. Damn, now I think I get what you mofos are talking about. There is a lot of hot young pussy on that site. More than I expected. Now it looks like I'm going to find out just how crazy / sleazy / scammy they are! But it's been a while since I fucked a cute 20 year-old, so I guess it's worth the potential of unlocking Pandora's box of craziness.
I also watched a lot of YouTube videos from SB's who complain at great length about Splenda Daddies and Salt Daddies, so it looks like it's a big pileup of drama.Word of advice is take your time to surf the pages for a few days to get familiar with the girls. Don't rush into any arrangement or send $ without meet. Once you play the game a bit then you will see it is not that easy and very time consuming. I dnt know where Hollywood guy is able to find $100 girls but the lowest I've encountered at $200 and it was a quicky. The norm is 300-600 and they are very pretty and non-pro who you can enjoy for a couple of hours. Good luck and happy hunting!
Word of advice is take your time to surf the pages for a few days to get familiar with the girls. Don't rush into any arrangement or send $ without meet. Once you play the game a bit then you will see it is not that easy and very time consuming. I dnt know where Hollywood guy is able to find $100 girls but the lowest I've encountered at $200 and it was a quicky. The norm is 300-600 and they are very pretty and non-pro who you can enjoy for a couple of hours. Good luck and happy hunting!Thanks for the advice. I'm totally willing to spend 3-4 for a cute lady if she's really in her early 20's. At max, I might go 5, but no higher. Two more questions, if you don't mind:
(1) Why is it so time-consuming? Aren't the SB's also trying to minimize the time commitment?
(2) Do all SB's understand that the first meeting is PPM? Or is the first meeting typically just a meet-and-greet for the two people to eyeball each other in person and make sure that each is cool with the other?
Thanks again!
Word of advice is take your time to surf the pages for a few days to get familiar with the girls. Don't rush into any arrangement or send $ without meet. Once you play the game a bit then you will see it is not that easy and very time consuming. I dnt know where Hollywood guy is able to find $100 girls but the lowest I've encountered at $200 and it was a quicky. The norm is 300-600 and they are very pretty and non-pro who you can enjoy for a couple of hours. Good luck and happy hunting!Same experience here. I've been sinking in some serious hours looking high and low for these girls who will take $100-$200 ppm and have had zero success. Any girl I was able to find who wasn't straight up ugly wants big coins, I could go to Eros and skip the drama completely if I had $500-$1000 per date to blow. I was hoping to find some naive young non-pro girls who would be open to a cheap ppm, nope, not even once. Seems they aren't so dumb and desperate after all. They are very aware of what they are worth per hour and actually charge well above the market rate, I hate it. I wasted my money buying a membership on SA, but at least now I've satisfied my curiosity. I always wondered if a decent looking guy could score some action on there for less than the pros charge and now I have my answer, no. HG must be a wizard to keep finding these gems because I haven't run across one, I don't know how he's doing it.
I'll tell you what though if you're into black girls though, there's a bounty of action to be had. I got hit up from them non-stop. Not bad looking either, just not really my taste.
TravelinSD
02-28-19, 00:51
Have you not seen and read what HG's preferences are? He loves AA ladies and makes no bones about it. I was in LA back in the fall on business and scored a chubby, but fun, white girl for $200. So, they are out there.
Same experience here. I've been sinking in some serious hours looking high and low for these girls who will take $100-$200 ppm and have had zero success. Any girl I was able to find who wasn't straight up ugly wants big coins, I could go to Eros and skip the drama completely if I had $500-$1000 per date to blow. I was hoping to find some naive young non-pro girls who would be open to a cheap ppm, nope, not even once. Seems they aren't so dumb and desperate after all. They are very aware of what they are worth per hour and actually charge well above the market rate, I hate it. I wasted my money buying a membership on SA, but at least now I've satisfied my curiosity. I always wondered if a decent looking guy could score some action on there for less than the pros charge and now I have my answer, no. HG must be a wizard to keep finding these gems because I haven't run across one, I don't know how he's doing it.
I'll tell you what though if you're into black girls though, there's a bounty of action to be had. I got hit up from them non-stop. Not bad looking either, just not really my taste.
Same experience here. I've been sinking in some serious hours looking high and low for these girls who will take $100-$200 ppm and have had zero success. Any girl I was able to find who wasn't straight up ugly wants big coins, I could go to Eros and skip the drama completely if I had $500-$1000 per date to blow. I was hoping to find some naive young non-pro girls who would be open to a cheap ppm, nope, not even once. Seems they aren't so dumb and desperate after all. They are very aware of what they are worth per hour and actually charge well above the market rate, I hate it. I wasted my money buying a membership on SA, but at least now I've satisfied my curiosity. I always wondered if a decent looking guy could score some action on there for less than the pros charge and now I have my answer, no. HG must be a wizard to keep finding these gems because I haven't run across one, I don't know how he's doing it.
I'll tell you what though if you're into black girls though, there's a bounty of action to be had. I got hit up from them non-stop. Not bad looking either, just not really my taste.Will you please post a few links with some rates that you heard? I would love to get a feeling for $ vs. Looks as I begin to swim out in these waters. If you're really hearing $1 K from any of these non-pros, I'll be shocked. That is really a fuckton of cash for an hour, especially if they're also expecting us to cover transport and hotel.
Also, are you hearing the $ from them in pre-meeting online conversations or do I have to go have dinner with one of them before she drops the number?
Thanks very much for the intel!
Have you not seen and read what HG's preferences are? He loves AA ladies and makes no bones about it. I was in LA back in the fall on business and scored a chubby, but fun, white girl for $200. So, they are out there.This. It's very obvious that HG's low PPM stories are extremely skewed by the fact that the vast majority of the ones he meets are AA (and he is upfront about this). For the rest of us who don't necessarily have that racial preference, the approximate price ranges are:
Latina: 200+.
Whites and Asians: 300+.
You can adjust these levels up and down a bit depending on how hot the girl is and how good-looking / non-creepy you are, but the absolute floor is usually 200 for any non-AA girl.
This. It's very obvious that HG's low PPM stories are extremely skewed by the fact that the vast majority of the ones he meets are AA (and he is upfront about this). For the rest of us who don't necessarily have that racial preference, the approximate price ranges are:
Latina: 200+.
Whites and Asians: 300+.
You can adjust these levels up and down a bit depending on how hot the girl is and how good-looking / non-creepy you are, but the absolute floor is usually 200 for any non-AA girl.That seems to be the case. I know HG usually scores AA but I also recall HG saying he was scoring more than just AA for $ range (he mentioned Latina and other races or maybe I'm really mistaken?), that is where I got the idea that it might work for me as well, it didn't though. For me the absolute floor has been $400 for non-AA, but my preference is slender girls so I wouldn't even consider contacting anyone chubby. I don't like thick girls even if the price was free.
HollywoodGuy
02-28-19, 05:35
Have you not seen and read what HG's preferences are? He loves AA ladies and makes no bones about it. I was in LA back in the fall on business and scored a chubby, but fun, white girl for $200. So, they are out there.I am sure if I spent the time to target the white girls I would get them. Not as much for $ but for sure at $$. And the black girls that want $$ ... OMG they are super fine. But they will just have to keep waiting. I do have one white girl right now that I had to turn down due to her lack of being able to produce a picture ID. She says she will do that in a few weeks when she gets around to it. All I know is she txts me a few times a day. If she does produce the ID I will let you all know what happens.
HollywoodGuy
02-28-19, 05:40
That seems to be the case. I know HG usually scores AA but I also recall HG saying he was scoring more than just AA for $ range (he mentioned Latina and other races or maybe I'm really mistaken?), that is where I got the idea that it might work for me as well, it didn't though. For me the absolute floor has been $400 for non-AA, but my preference is slender girls so I wouldn't even consider contacting anyone chubby. I don't like thick girls even if the price was free.And yes sometimes I do get a latina or asian, those are the ones that just fall into my lap as I do not court them. Because if a girl favorites me, about half the time I will respond back even if she isn't AA.
And yes sometimes I do get a latina or asian, those are the ones that just fall into my lap as I do not court them. Because if a girl favorites me, about half the time I will respond back even if she isn't AA.You must be hella smoother than me. Well can you give me a lead or something a link to one of these unicorn chicks? How about that white girl. Come on I'm dying of blue balls over here, I'll take anything so long as she's thin. Bro my membership is almost up and haven't heard from a single chick who was even willing to email me off site, nothing but game players, not one of them had any follow through with anything.
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