Sugar Daddy Sites

[HollywoodGuy]

My new little girl is just adorable. I wish my x would stop hating on her.

[Madaboutmax]

I pay attention to expectation levels, but don't let it stop me. I've found many of the younger girls have no understanding of the value of a dollar and can't translate 10,000 a month to a per meet number. Others, set the expectations high hoping to win the lottery, but quickly accept something reasonable if the connection is there. Still others, claim to use the higher expectations as a way to weed out the low ballers.

I usually start by expressing my interest, but letting them known if their expectations are above my budget. Very few decline to continue the conversation because of my limited budget.

I almost always delete any girls with the "I know my worth" claim. That is almost always a "pain in the ass" red flag.

Also, any girl that presses for what my budget is also is red flag that she is only about the money.

My best experiences have been with SB's interested in an experience beyond the maximize dollars they can make. If their focus is on maximum dollars, they are just expensive BP girls IMHO.


I keep my filter set at negotiable but I've had some fun with a couple of "practical" girls over the holidays. It seemed that the college lovelies need some extra Christmas/New Years Eve money so I was willing to help out. Seems the ladies quickly come back out of the stratosphere when they realize guy's aren't going give them what they want. I just take Kevin Hart's advice and stay in my lane. LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

Too bad my chemistry with this one wasn't what I had hoped for. Her body is bangin. But I just wasn't feelin it as much as I wanted too. Not all bad, a nice 18 year old freshman, just missing the mark a little. We still talk, but my plate is pretty full right now. Maybe next month. I need a little more lovin these days, like the emotional kind.

[Member #5794]

Too bad my chemistry with this one wasn't what I had hoped for. Her body is bangin. But I just wasn't feelin it as much as I wanted too. Not all bad, a nice 18 year old freshman, just missing the mark a little. We still talk, but my plate is pretty full right now. Maybe next month. I need a little more lovin these days, like the emotional kind.I had a massage from this girl two months ago at international house.

[BearWithMe]

I had a massage from this girl two months ago at international house.Really? I went there, and all I got were pancakes!

[ScConnoisseur3]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/991ae98d-cfa2-4c1d-8ae3-d2df58b39161

Exchanged a couple of messages and then texts with this Latina from sylmar. Set up a M&G, she backed out because I wasn't going to pay for a M&G. But from every indication she can host, and isn't interested in developing a relationship beyond the money aspect. I'm sure one of you guys can come at her the right way cause she's a lock for the FC. Just I couldn't make it work. Offered $100, and she was down for that. Good luck.

[Member #5794]

Really? I went there, and all I got were pancakes!I go to Dennys for pancakes.

[BigBear818]

I'm kind of new to the game on this website, but I decided to pull the trigger by purchasing a premium membership. As soon as I became a premium member, I was finally able to see the sugar babies pm's. I met up with this sb a few days ago at a public place and she did tell me that she was basically looking for a Captain Save-A-Hoe type of guy that will provide and take her out of the trap lifestyle of dancing at the local strip club. So I set up an arrangement a few days later and we both agreed to the $ donation and what I should expect for her service. When she arrived to meet me at my FC, she wanted the $ donation up front and proceeded to give me a HJ. I was board and disappointed with her actions and told her that I expected more from her. She then tells me that if I want more intimate services, then I would have to pay her an additional $$ I told her that we agreed to $ and the additional $$$ is not what we agreed on, so I ended the session with her and kicked her out of my place. She looks good on her photos, but she is about 60 lbs overweight in person and I felt that it was not worth giving her additional $$ But feel free to try her out if you don't believe me.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/5cfdc796-7275-4e00-b2ea-ff92d38b522a

[John HandCock]

I'm kind of new to the game on this website, but I decided to pull the trigger by purchasing a premium membership. As soon as I became a premium member, I was finally able to see the sugar babies pm's. I met up with this sb a few days ago at a public place and she did tell me that she was basically looking for a Captain Save-A-Hoe type of guy that will provide and take her out of the trap lifestyle of dancing at the local strip club. So I set up an arrangement a few days later and we both agreed to the $ donation and what I should expect for her service. When she arrived to meet me at my FC, she wanted the $ donation up front and proceeded to give me a HJ. I was board and disappointed with her actions and told her that I expected more from her. She then tells me that if I want more intimate services, then I would have to pay her an additional $$ I told her that we agreed to $ and the additional $$$ is not what we agreed on, so I ended the session with her and kicked her out of my place. She looks good on her photos, but she is about 60 lbs overweight in person and I felt that it was not worth giving her additional $$ But feel free to try her out if you don't believe me.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/5cfdc796-7275-4e00-b2ea-ff92d38b522aFirst off you got to know the difference between the sb and a sex worker. You could have picked this girl off of CL, BP or out of the club. Lots of sex workers are posting on SA now and because they have a profile up guys go crazy over the new sb. You got to make better choices or some guys are happy getting a recycled sex worker with a sb title.

[ScConnoisseur3]

I'm new to this but I have had an ok experience so far. I have tried to develop a rapport and treat all the ladies with respect. But some of them are all about the money. And for some reason think I'm automatically enamored with the idea of spending time with them. I set up a m&g with a AA girl yesterday in Downtown LA but turns out she flaked at the last moment. Had this happen a couple of times where I get to the point of a m&g with the understanding of $100 per meet up afterwards. But the girls never follow through. And I'm being very conscientious on which girls I contact. I'm trying to stay in my Lane and it's a good learning experience. Worth the one month subscription I signed up for.

It's eye opening seeing the unmitigated GPS that most basic girls have. Trust me, the girls I've contacted are no where near 9's or 10's. But still there's always a tinge of GPS present. I'm glad I decided to try this out because I'm​ learning a lot. And I am slowly reading through all the great info on the Richmond thread.

[HollywoodGuy]

First off you got to know the difference between the sb and a sex worker. You could have picked this girl off of CL, BP or out of the club. Lots of sex workers are posting on SA now and because they have a profile up guys go crazy over the new sb. You got to make better choices or some guys are happy getting a recycled sex worker with a sb title.Very generally speaking girls from the west valley are going to be GPS unless they are students at CSN. And even then they won't be inexpensive but at least reasonable.

[FarFarAway]

I'm new to this but I have had an ok experience so far. I have tried to develop a rapport and treat all the ladies with respect. But some of them are all about the money. And for some reason think I'm automatically enamored with the idea of spending time with them. I set up a m&g with a AA girl yesterday in Downtown LA but turns out she flaked at the last moment. Had this happen a couple of times where I get to the point of a m&g with the understanding of $100 per meet up afterwards. But the girls never follow through. And I'm being very conscientious on which girls I contact. I'm trying to stay in my Lane and it's a good learning experience. Worth the one month subscription I signed up for.

It's eye opening seeing the unmitigated GPS that most basic girls have. Trust me, the girls I've contacted are no where near 9's or 10's. But still there's always a tinge of GPS present. I'm glad I decided to try this out because I'm​ learning a lot. And I am slowly reading through all the great info on the Richmond thread.I also don't know where you are trolling, but if you already have a broad impression that they ask for the moon, based on the many many you have contacted, maybe your approach is contributing to that. I never, ever talk $ other than in generality (like the SA lifestyle #s) until after meeting them. In my view, if a girl needs to have that $ in specificity, she's just an escort. She is quoting you a price to have sex with you sight unseen. If you are talking hard numbers online without ever having met her, she's going to ask you for top dollar, + - why wouldn't she? She is taking a big risk b / c she knows nothing about you, and if you go for it she scores. There is nothing in her equation about whether you might be someone she'd be interested in seeing. To cut these costs, you have to invest sweat equity. There's a huge amount of info on this on the Richmond thread, both the active one and the Highlights.

[ScConnoisseur3]

I also don't know where you are trolling, but if you already have a broad impression that they ask for the moon, based on the many many you have contacted, maybe your approach is contributing to that. I never, ever talk $ other than in generality (like the SA lifestyle #s) until after meeting them. In my view, if a girl needs to have that $ in specificity, she's just an escort. She is quoting you a price to have sex with you sight unseen. If you are talking hard numbers online without ever having met her, she's going to ask you for top dollar, + - why wouldn't she? She is taking a big risk b / c she knows nothing about you, and if you go for it she scores. There is nothing in her equation about whether you might be someone she'd be interested in seeing. To cut these costs, you have to invest sweat equity. There's a huge amount of info on this on the Richmond thread, both the active one and the Highlights.Sure, I've been using the Richmond thread highlights as a road map since the beginning. And I've never explicitly discussed sex for money on SA. I've just used it to frame where I stand and what my budget is.

[Pinche Gringo]

Hey all. Fir those who come to OC to play, I know of a 18 year old NP who I met on one of the SB sites who is looking for others and have asked me to help. She will not do anal. Likes it a little rough. BJ for 80 and all for 140. Will only share photos of her with those who have a woman to share. She is in the FV area, PM me. The photo is just a preview.

[HollywoodGuy]

She was very quick to tell me she needed $$$. Not my cup of tea.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/3047b34a-602a-4af5-b475-f155514f3818

[HollywoodGuy]

This girl is down for a $. Can't say exactly what for. Gave her my standard pitch. She wanted to do a M&G first. I,ll try to find a way to see her. Timing is good for anyone near santa ana or HB. I just can't get down to the OC right now.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6105b554-cd92-4f82-803b-4bafde8c2be9

[HollywoodGuy]

My new little girl looks damn cute in this pic.

[Large Ess]

My new little girl looks damn cute in this pic.You have hit the jackpot once again.

[Asian_Pimp]

So after reading and browsing for a month now these sugardaddy sites and I FINALLY FINALLY hit JACKPOT! We have been texting back and forth for about 2 weeks now and last night we finally made plans to meet. She's a 21-year-old latina college student who is looking for someone to help her out with her bills. We agreed to spend 1 hour at my place for $100 just to chill and get to know each other. Before she came over, we had talked about what she likes to eat, so I ordered ahead and opened a bottle of wine. We connected really well at dinner laughing and all. Maybe the wine might have something to do with it. Anyhow. We went to the couch to watch the NBA Playoffs. Within less than 10 minutes we were making out like long lost lovers. The rest. I'm sure you already know what happened. This girl has one of the best-looking pussy's I've ever seen and it was very sweet and tight. She stayed for 3 hours and $ was never discussed. Before she left, I handed her $100 and she said: "it's cool babe, I had a great time and I love your company". I just told her to take it for gas or whatever. I just got a text this morning from her asking if we can hang out tonight again. I told her she can stay the night if she like. She said she will think about it. LOL.

I also mentioned that I might have some friends who might be interested in seeing her. She's said she was ok with that and maybe she can bring her BFF and we can all party at my place next time. JACKPOT!

Sorry about the black line on her face. Need to protect her from other people who might know her.

[Venator]

So after reading and browsing for a month now these sugardaddy sites and I FINALLY FINALLY hit JACKPOT! We have been texting back and forth for about 2 weeks now and last night we finally made plans to meet. She's a 21-year-old latina college student who is looking for someone to help her out with her bills. We agreed to spend 1 hour at my place for $100 just to chill and get to know each other. Before she came over, we had talked about what she likes to eat, so I ordered ahead and opened a bottle of wine. We connected really well at dinner laughing and all. Maybe the wine might have something to do with it. Anyhow. We went to the couch to watch the NBA Playoffs. Within less than 10 minutes we were making out like long lost lovers. The rest. I'm sure you already know what happened. This girl has one of the best-looking pussy's I've ever seen and it was very sweet and tight. She stayed for 3 hours and $ was never discussed. Before she left, I handed her $100 and she said: "it's cool babe, I had a great time and I love your company". I just told her to take it for gas or whatever. I just got a text this morning from her asking if we can hang out tonight again. I told her she can stay the night if she like. She said she will think about it. LOL.

I also mentioned that I might have some friends who might be interested in seeing her. She's said she was ok with that and maybe she can bring her BFF and we can all party at my place next time. JACKPOT!

Sorry about the black line on her face. Need to protect her from other people who might know her.Well done sir!

[ChickChasin]

Great job AP!

[Flash911]

She is a Jackpot! I have worked SA for months and never got past a nice dinner and some offers from Pros. Congrats Sir and feel free to pm her info.


So after reading and browsing for a month now these sugardaddy sites and I FINALLY FINALLY hit JACKPOT! We have been texting back and forth for about 2 weeks now and last night we finally made plans to meet. She's a 21-year-old latina college student who is looking for someone to help her out with her bills. We agreed to spend 1 hour at my place for $100 just to chill and get to know each other. Before she came over, we had talked about what she likes to eat, so I ordered ahead and opened a bottle of wine. We connected really well at dinner laughing and all. Maybe the wine might have something to do with it. Anyhow. We went to the couch to watch the NBA Playoffs. Within less than 10 minutes we were making out like long lost lovers. The rest. I'm sure you already know what happened. This girl has one of the best-looking pussy's I've ever seen and it was very sweet and tight. She stayed for 3 hours and $ was never discussed. Before she left, I handed her $100 and she said: "it's cool babe, I had a great time and I love your company". I just told her to take it for gas or whatever. I just got a text this morning from her asking if we can hang out tonight again. I told her she can stay the night if she like. She said she will think about it. LOL.

I also mentioned that I might have some friends who might be interested in seeing her. She's said she was ok with that and maybe she can bring her BFF and we can all party at my place next time. JACKPOT!

Sorry about the black line on her face. Need to protect her from other people who might know her.

[HollywoodGuy]

So after reading and browsing for a month now these sugardaddy sites and I FINALLY FINALLY hit JACKPOT! We have been texting back and forth for about 2 weeks now and last night we finally made plans to meet. She's a 21-year-old latina college student who is looking for someone to help her out with her bills. We agreed to spend 1 hour at my place for $100 just to chill and get to know each other. Before she came over, we had talked about what she likes to eat, so I ordered ahead and opened a bottle of wine. We connected really well at dinner laughing and all. Maybe the wine might have something to do with it. Anyhow. We went to the couch to watch the NBA Playoffs. Within less than 10 minutes we were making out like long lost lovers. The rest. I'm sure you already know what happened. This girl has one of the best-looking pussy's I've ever seen and it was very sweet and tight. She stayed for 3 hours and $ was never discussed. Before she left, I handed her $100 and she said: "it's cool babe, I had a great time and I love your company". I just told her to take it for gas or whatever. I just got a text this morning from her asking if we can hang out tonight again. I told her she can stay the night if she like. She said she will think about it. LOL.

I also mentioned that I might have some friends who might be interested in seeing her. She's said she was ok with that and maybe she can bring her BFF and we can all party at my place next time. JACKPOT!

Sorry about the black line on her face. Need to protect her from other people who might know her.She is the real deal. Girls just wanna have fun.

[Mondo72]

So after reading and browsing for a month now these sugardaddy sites and I FINALLY FINALLY hit JACKPOT! We have been texting back and forth for about 2 weeks now and last night we finally made plans to meet. She's a 21-year-old latina college student who is looking for someone to help her out with her bills. We agreed to spend 1 hour at my place for $100 just to chill and get to know each other. Before she came over, we had talked about what she likes to eat, so I ordered ahead and opened a bottle of wine. We connected really well at dinner laughing and all. Maybe the wine might have something to do with it. Anyhow. We went to the couch to watch the NBA Playoffs. Within less than 10 minutes we were making out like long lost lovers. The rest. I'm sure you already know what happened. This girl has one of the best-looking pussy's I've ever seen and it was very sweet and tight. She stayed for 3 hours and $ was never discussed. Before she left, I handed her $100 and she said: "it's cool babe, I had a great time and I love your company". I just told her to take it for gas or whatever. I just got a text this morning from her asking if we can hang out tonight again. I told her she can stay the night if she like. She said she will think about it. LOL.

I also mentioned that I might have some friends who might be interested in seeing her. She's said she was ok with that and maybe she can bring her BFF and we can all party at my place next time. JACKPOT!

Sorry about the black line on her face. Need to protect her from other people who might know her.Hey A-P.

Thanks for posting, great find, as hot as they come. If available please send me a PM with her info.

Mondo.

[HollywoodGuy]

This one is totally down. She is a bit far away though. Gotta schedule her in. Early twenties, 5.2 and slender. She looks yummy. Most likely UTR, but who cares.

[FarFarAway]

Some days, you are just living right. Like a profile, but a little odd, two bowl buddies think she could be UTR, fake pics (but she is serious about being on the DL - me too, I've got a SO). I messaged w / her over a couple of weeks now. The M&G was Saturday. 23 YO WF, 5'4'', spinner, incredibly pretty brunette. Gave no hints of UTR at all, and we kinda agreed on an arrangement similar to what I've had w / past SBs.

This morning was the first FC. OMFG. Her figure is incredible - 34 DD, 21,35, and the boobs are 100% real. Firm, perky, up in the girl's eyes. Truly she could be on the cover of a fitness magazine. She's a 10 across the board, and I get her twice a week for basically 2 K / mo. I know lots of you like AP's girl, this one puts her to shame (but I don't believe in posting pix or profile links to my SBs - I wouldn't want her doing the same to me). She's super sweet and into the daddy / baby thing. I told her to remove my belt and she did, on her knees. You know where this went. We spent long enough together, w / kind talk at intermission, that I hit it twice. I'm >60, this is the first time I've done 2 pops in over a decade. She finished by asking if I would like her to take her profile off SA. Of course (but also, I'm having buddies check on her, of course). So I've got an exclusive. SMH. I've wondered if I would ever find 'the one' on SA - she's a candidate. Back to the FC Monday am.

[HollywoodGuy]

Some days, you are just living right. Like a profile, but a little odd, two bowl buddies think she could be UTR, fake pics (but she is serious about being on the DL - me too, I've got a SO). I messaged w / her over a couple of weeks now. The M&G was Saturday. 23 YO WF, 5'4'', spinner, incredibly pretty brunette. Gave no hints of UTR at all, and we kinda agreed on an arrangement similar to what I've had w / past SBs.

This morning was the first FC. OMFG. Her figure is incredible - 34 DD, 21,35, and the boobs are 100% real. Firm, perky, up in the girl's eyes. Truly she could be on the cover of a fitness magazine. She's a 10 across the board, and I get her twice a week for basically 2 K / mo. I know lots of you like AP's girl, this one puts her to shame (but I don't believe in posting pix or profile links to my SBs - I wouldn't want her doing the same to me). She's super sweet and into the daddy / baby thing. I told her to remove my belt and she did, on her knees. You know where this went. We spent long enough together, w / kind talk at intermission, that I hit it twice. I'm >60, this is the first time I've done 2 pops in over a decade. She finished by asking if I would like her to take her profile off SA. Of course (but also, I'm having buddies check on her, of course). So I've got an exclusive. SMH. I've wondered if I would ever find 'the one' on SA - she's a candidate. Back to the FC Monday am.Money Talks.

[HollywoodGuy]

UTR for sure. In my experience NP's don't even send topless pics. Same girl as the last post. This Saturday my new little girl and my X will be here at the same time. Will they hook up? Will I get a piece of it? My X had a wet dream about her the other nite, so who knows. My new little girl is basically down for anything. My X ? Thats another story. I will follow up for sure.

[Asian_Pimp]

For $66/ day. This is way cheaper than having a GF or Wife. LOL Great find.

Keep it up!


Some days, you are just living right. Like a profile, but a little odd, two bowl buddies think she could be UTR, fake pics (but she is serious about being on the DL - me too, I've got a SO). I messaged w / her over a couple of weeks now. The M&G was Saturday. 23 YO WF, 5'4'', spinner, incredibly pretty brunette. Gave no hints of UTR at all, and we kinda agreed on an arrangement similar to what I've had w / past SBs.

This morning was the first FC. OMFG. Her figure is incredible - 34 DD, 21,35, and the boobs are 100% real. Firm, perky, up in the girl's eyes. Truly she could be on the cover of a fitness magazine. She's a 10 across the board, and I get her twice a week for basically 2 K / mo. I know lots of you like AP's girl, this one puts her to shame (but I don't believe in posting pix or profile links to my SBs - I wouldn't want her doing the same to me). She's super sweet and into the daddy / baby thing. I told her to remove my belt and she did, on her knees. You know where this went. We spent long enough together, w / kind talk at intermission, that I hit it twice. I'm >60, this is the first time I've done 2 pops in over a decade. She finished by asking if I would like her to take her profile off SA. Of course (but also, I'm having buddies check on her, of course). So I've got an exclusive. SMH. I've wondered if I would ever find 'the one' on SA - she's a candidate. Back to the FC Monday am.

[FarFarAway]

Money Talks.LOL. :) Thanks HWG. We've had the discussion before of what's available at what price points. You asserted any woman on the site could be had, even the hottest model, for 500/ meet. This SB would qualify as that, and I am at like half of that rate, but the sum of my obligation and its continuing nature, meaning she doesn't have to keep looking for someone trustworthy, makes it appealing for her. She likes the sex and the arrangement, it works better for her right now than a relationship.

I also am mindful of the history of other long-time SDs, who find that after some time the $ becomes less important or even goes away, as they develop real relationships w / their SBs. I know that's not been your model, mostly, you only see them once. Anyway, I am hopeful that this can become even more financially tractable for me. I have stocked my coffers for the next few months, which include the SO being off the continent for 2 weeks, which should be a lot of fun. However, generating the cash needed for the bowl without attracting unwanted attention is a significant challenge for me.

[HollywoodGuy]

For $66/ day. This is way cheaper than having a GF or Wife. LOL Great find.

Keep it up!SB's are way cheaper than a wife and maybe even some GF's. And unlike a GF or SO they know they have to keep stepping up or they will be asked to step off. When I was new I did have SB's that had a sense of entitlement, but those days are long gone. I would never giver any girl that impression today.

[HollywoodGuy]

So my X hit me up for some extra cash tonite and I turned her down. She also wanted to spend the weekend but didn't want to drive, and I told her the uber was too expensive. I told her I had over spent this month on her and my new little girl, and she blew up. She had a few hundred that she was keeping here for whatever reason and so I just paypal-ed it back to her. I will be mailing her clothes to her Monday. All good (and not so good things) must come to an end. Perfect timing as I really couldn't afford to keep her around anymore. And you can't really spoil a girl that's already spoiled rotten. I knew her jealousy would eventually get the best of her. So many of these girls self sabotage.

With her out of the picture I am right back on budget. Some girls just don't get it.

[Marlowe]

So my X hit me up for some extra cash tonite and I turned her down. She also wanted to spend the weekend but didn't want to drive, and I told her the uber was too expensive. I told her I had over spent this month on her and my new little girl, and she blew up. She had a few hundred that she was keeping here for whatever reason and so I just paypal-ed it back to her. I will be mailing her clothes to her Monday. All good (and not so good things) must come to an end. Perfect timing as I really couldn't afford to keep her around anymore. And you can't really spoil a girl that's already spoiled rotten. I knew her jealousy would eventually get the best of her. So many of these girls self sabotage.

With her out of the picture I am right back on budget. Some girls just don't get it.Until she begs her way back into your good graces, LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

Until she begs her way back into your good graces, LOL.Not going to happen. In my dreams I can think of a few scenarios where I would be willing, but those are pipe dreams. I will update if anything happens. And begging alone isnt gonna do it.

[HollywoodGuy]

Shipped her clothes back this morning. I couldn't get to the PO fast enough. She has called numerous times today, but I have not answered. If she wants to ask me a basic question she can txt me. I am done.

[Marlowe]

Today my x txted me and said she wished I was dead. Kind of mean coming from a girl that said she wanted to marry me just a few months ago.

Anyway, randomly chatted up a true MILF (except I am sure she has never had any kids) with a model figure and pretty to match. She is early 40's and only lives 2 miles from my house. I told her she could stop by and chat, and I believe she will.That is just how women act. My former fiancee told me to "get the fuck out of her life" and two hours later was begging for makeup sex. Didn't take the bait on that one! Stay strong HWG!

[Rouleur]

Today my x txted me and said she wished I was dead. Kind of mean coming from a girl that said she wanted to marry me just a few months ago.At the very end of my 20 year marriage, my now Ex confided to me that she spent the previous 5 years praying I would die. Seems she and her gutter rat boyfriend thought they would "start fresh" with my life insurance proceeds! LOL I'd say fuck her but I'm too busy banging beautiful young women who are pay to play. Life is good.

[FarFarAway]

Brothers, I have a task I need assistance with. I have a new SB, a slavic name, 20's smoking hot spinner I've posted on. Back in the FC again today. All the info I have on her is her GV #, but I was able to get her license plate this morning. I'd guess there is a way to get info on her this way through a private investigator, but of course want to take the path of least resistance (and cost). Feel free to PM.

[John HandCock]

Brothers, I have a task I need assistance with. I have a new SB, a slavic name, 20's smoking hot spinner I've posted on. Back in the FC again today. All the info I have on her is her GV #, but I was able to get her license plate this morning. I'd guess there is a way to get info on her this way through a private investigator, but of course want to take the path of least resistance (and cost). Feel free to PM.Most girls on the up and up will show you some form of ID if asked straight out. Most of the girls have nothing to hide and think little on the secret squirrel stuff the guys do. Of course she might ask you to reciprocate which might be awkward for you.

[HollywoodGuy]

Now that my x is gone, I guess I won't be too quick to ditch my ATF. Tonite she reminded me why we have been together for the last 2 1/2 years.

[Asian_Pimp]

I was able to find another SB this week. I started talking to her about a week ago and we finally met last night. She came over around 9 pm last night and of course, I was watching the NBA Semi-Finals where the Spurs got their ass handed to them. Anyhow, she arrived at the door and I was surprised she look hotter than in pictures. She was wearing a red plaid shirt and booty shorts. She was hot! We greeted each other with a hug and a peck on the cheeks. I offer her something to drink and we were just talking about her current situation and stuff while the game was on. When by the 3rd quarter and they were down about 30. I say fuck it. Let's just get to the point. I asked her to shower together. And she just stripped in front of me and said where is your shower? Let's go! LOL. Damn. She was hornier than me! LOL. We did our thing and she was wild in bed. Afterwards. I asked if I can snap a pic of her while she was using my laptop in bed. She was cool with it, but no face pic. This is the best shot I got of her that I can post. Enjoy.

[BamBam]

Today my x txted me and said she wished I was dead. Kind of mean coming from a girl that said she wanted to marry me just a few months ago.

Anyway, randomly chatted up a true MILF (except I am sure she has never had any kids) with a model figure and pretty to match. She is early 40's and only lives 2 miles from my house. I told her she could stop by and chat, and I believe she will.Did you search that pic? It links to a fairly well-known celebrity who seems to be living in New York. She could have moved but it is hard to believe she would be on SA.

BAM.

[HollywoodGuy]

Did you search that pic? It links to a fairly well-known celebrity who seems to be living in New York. She could have moved but it is hard to believe she would be on SA.

BAM.Actually that is her (and thanks I deleted that post). And I have seen way more famous than her on SA. I once got a proposal from a famous rappers GF for 3k. lol. Here is an unsearchable photo.

[HollywoodGuy]

Today I am grateful for my new little girl.

[LoveBB]

Most girls on the up and up will show you some form of ID if asked straight out. Most of the girls have nothing to hide and think little on the secret squirrel stuff the guys do. Of course she might ask you to reciprocate which might be awkward for you.This. I have asked younger looking girls for their I'd before heading to the fc because I wanted to be 100% sure they weren't underage and they were happy to oblige.

[Member #5794]

Today I am grateful for my new little girl.Good deal, had a nice roommate too.

[KayBez]

Hey everyone, been reading these posts for a while now, does anyone have any advice for a beginner in my early 20's?

[FarFarAway]

Hey everyone, been reading these posts for a while now, does anyone have any advice for a beginner in my early 20's?The mother lode is the Richmond VA sugarbaby thread, and the highlights thread that archives all the best advice over the years. An icon of that thread, JZLizard, recently had advice for young guys. I know this may seem self-serving, but it is to stay out of the bowl for now. You can likely get plenty of young pussy IRL, you don't need to be in the bowl; the more time and effort you spend on it at this time of your life, the less likely you are going to make it, career-wise, so that you can afford to play in the bowl the way I do at my advanced age ( 60). It's true that some of the GPS girls are also thinking they are going to be meeting 'older' guys who are like 5-10 years older, but you can't afford them anyway. The girls who are made for SA and the sugar bowl (and not just regular or UTR escorts) do have daddy issues somewhere or another, and they're going to want to be with 40's and 50's men.

Succeeding in the bowl does require some game, not unlike dating IRL. If you have trouble there, you'll see the same thing in sugar dating.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hey everyone, been reading these posts for a while now, does anyone have any advice for a beginner in my early 20's?Start offering girls younger than you .5 per date. I am sure you will get a lot of takers. Just go for the average girls to start. And report back your successes or failures. But I hope you at least have a decent car and your own place. A lot of these girls just wanna get out of the house.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hey everyone, been reading these posts for a while now, does anyone have any advice for a beginner in my early 20's?Also, tell them you will take them on a real date. Like dinner and/or a movie. You would be shocked at how many 18-20 year old girls have never been on a real date. Or an all day affair... Broad museum (free to get in, $20 to park), dinner and a movie. With all that you might even be able to go sans sugar. Just stay away from anything you consider a red flag. Hit up like 50 girls and talk to maybe 10. There will be a gem in there. I guarantee it.

[HollywoodGuy]

I met a girl today I had briefly txted with a few times over the last 2 weeks. She seemed a bit hesitant and wanted to make sure she wasn't committed to more than a HJ for a paid date. I let her know I wasn't the pushy type and that a HJ was more than enough for a first date. When she got here (which was only a. 16 Uber RT) she was very much on the dykey side. Short hair, baseball cap, jeans, and a hoody. I mean she was straight up gay on sight.

I was more than a bit turned off, but she was here, so we started making out on the couch. I then suggested we just move to the FC. I was a little worried if I was even going to be turned on, but once I got her clothes off, underneath there was a tight, toned, hot little girl in my bed (and with some pretty good skills). She had a sexy looking and tasty kitty, so I indulged in some extended DATY (something I have been sorely missing as of late). An hour later we were done. She was an honor roll junior at a local college. She wasn't too flirty, but was ready to get down and dirty on a dime, or I should say a $.

Most likely I will see her again when time / funds permit.

And just to update:

My Haitian x roommate has moved back in (platonic and paying rent).

My Stripper x is still x'ed out of the picture (although she calls me 5 times a day on one pretext or another). It's amazing how fast she realized that even a cheap SD is still a SD. Oh well.

My ATF has been nickel and diming me. (got to nip that in the bud now).

And seeing my new little girl last night in juxtaposition to my much older roommate caught us all by surprise. As my roommate is just old enough to be her mom.

[ScConnoisseur3]

Started off a month ago on SA messaging average Hispanic and AA girls. After a lot of back and forth messages, getting to know you type messages, and push for a meet ups I have three AA girls that I've consistently stayed in touch with.

Had a m&g with a thick 24 yr old and the next day had her over to my place. Watched a movie, got to know each other, lot of laughing, establishing some comfort, and turns out we had a lot of things in common and good overall vibe. No FC yet but have plans to meet up and keep this going once our schedules and my budget line up.

Got another thick 23 yr old. Had her over to my place three times in the last three weeks. First date just HJ and BJ. From there on it was straight FC, hanging out, getting to know each other, watching​ movies and she's an overall really down ass chick. She's grateful for my help and no drama so far.

This last chick is younger than the other two (19) so I'm taking my time and really investing in getting to know her. Haven't met up yet but plan to do so soon.

With all three I never came at them with any b. S. I treated them with respect, honest, and overall relaxed and not aggressive. Had good vibes with all three of them and the last thing I want to do is be clingy and suffocating.

But to find these three I had to wade through a lot of other chicks who weren't down for the amount of help I could provide, others it fizzled out real quick, got some to agree to a m&g only to never hear from them, others didn't have any long term perspective and we're about the right now.

Had one girl agree to a nonpaid m&g but bailed because I wouldn't agree to give her some gas money. Told her to think about the long term monetary benefit of coming to an arrangement with me but she wasn't having any of it. She needed her gas money and she needed it at that moment.

So now that my one month subscription is coming to an end I'll take a step back from SA and focus on these three girls for now. And I'll see how it goes because I'll have some big things coming in the Fall career wise and since I'm still pretty young I'll need to focus on that.

[KayBez]

Thanks guys for all the advice, will sit it out a while till I have my own place.

[HollywoodGuy]

Thanks guys for all the advice, will sit it out a while till I have my own place.Unless you can afford a room.

[WHM69]

Hey everyone, been reading these posts for a while now, does anyone have any advice for a beginner in my early 20's?I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.

What the hell are you doing?

I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.

My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.

Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.

That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.

Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.

[Pal5600]

You reap what you sow. You're treating them like BP hookers. You spend no time cultivating them as sugar relationships - these take time - even HWG does this. You are risking getting banned from the site, since you are clearly offering sex for $ - this will eventually bring down sugar dating sites and SA in particular. If a girl makes a specific $ proposal / demand, I'd report her. There is an excellent discussion of this topic on the Richmond sugar thread over the past few days. I recommend it.

FF awayI agree with WHM69, SA have all kind of ladies, in age, size, shape, color, etc. If you want something super, super hot (like 18-22 young, thin, hot, size 1 white college coed girls) it will cost you more. If you want to buy a Ferrari, it will cost you Ferrari price, not Toyota Corolla price. Funny thing is guys on here will tell you their Corolla is a Ferrari, I think not.

[Member #5794]

I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.

What the hell are you doing?

I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.

My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.

Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.

That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.

Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.I concur. Fucken hang out at bars and AA meetings. You are young and have patience and time for drama. This is for old fux who have no rap and get angry with girls who cannot text without a booker.

[FarFarAway]

I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.

What the hell are you doing?

I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.

My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.

Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.

That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.

Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.Sorry to date myself (to the 70's), but right on brother. LOL!!

[HollywoodGuy]

I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.

What the hell are you doing?

I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.

My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.

Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.

That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.

Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.I totally disagree. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. If I had any clue about mongering as a young guy, I am sure I would have been all over it. The many hours wasted searching out pussy, plus I hate clubs/bars and never went to college, and hate the whole pickup line bs. If you are an online addict, then I suppose you could just use tinder if you are a youngun. I never tried it so I wouldn't know. But the whole concept of just shopping for a girl as opposed to actually picking one up. I would rather shop till I drop.

[John HandCock]

I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.

What the hell are you doing?

I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.

My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.

Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.

That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.

Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.Dead on point! If you're a young single man why would one even consider this? If you have game and personality you can score all you want for free. If one doesn't have either then I suggest they get off the computer, get out and start developing it instead of shopping online for what you're ultimately going to wind up with which is pros and UTR girls. You can find these for free without paying an $80 subscription fee. Get out and socialize and develop yourself. Personality goes along way.

[HollywoodGuy]

Dead on point! If you're a young single man why would one even consider this? If you have game and personality you can score all you want for free. If one doesn't have either then I suggest they get off the computer, get out and start developing it instead of shopping online for what you're ultimately going to wind up with which is pros and UTR girls. You can find these for free without paying an $80 subscription fee. Get out and socialize and develop yourself. Personality goes along way.And speaking of pros. I messaged this one on SA. I usually don't go pro but her 20 year old spinner body has me mesmerized.

[HollywoodGuy]

My profile is geared to the submissive types. Its amazing how most of the ones that hmu are little bbw's. And so many 18 and 19 to choose from. Mostly white and latina. If I saw a super cute one I might partake. So I keep looking.

[John HandCock]

My profile is geared to the submissive types. Its amazing how most of the ones that hmu are little bbw's. And so many 18 and 19 to choose from. Mostly white and latina. If I saw a super cute one I might partake. So I keep looking.My profile states that they must be sub. Bbws are freaks for most part, not sure if its an self esteem thing or what but anything goes with most. Oh and thanks to the educational system in this country I have girls responding to the sub part of my profile thinking that its for a temporary position while my regular sb is on vacation or on a temporary absence. Those girls politely disappear when I explain what it means LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

My profile states that they must be sub. Bbws are freaks for most part, not sure if its an self esteem thing or what but anything goes with most. Oh and thanks to the educational system in this country I have girls responding to the sub part of my profile thinking that its for a temporary position while my regular sb is on vacation or on a temporary absence. Those girls politely disappear when I explain what it means LOL.I get like 2 to 5 a day. It's crazy. I don't have the cash for it and I don't really like BBW's, even small ones. But I may have to adjust my thinking a little. Just too swamped as it is to start down a new path. There was one I gave into a few years ago. And like you said she was a total freak. I loved the crazy hour long oral sessions (on me), but when it cam time for me going down on her (which I never did) or the banging, I just wasn't that into it.

[HollywoodGuy]

I am so glad my roommate is back. Third time in 2 years. She keeps me from getting lonely. Perfect timing now that my x is x-ed out for good.

[HollywoodGuy]

This is why I only ask for a HJ on the first date. She is a freshman at UCLA.
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HER: Trust me, I'm all on board for directness, also! It just makes everything so much easier moving forward LOL. I love physical interaction and it's not something I'm uncomfortable with. So, wherever you want to draw the line, whether it be just a hand job or more, I'll leave up to you, just know I have no problem with it if we have chemistry and can respect each other.

I'm convinced you are a sweet guy and I would love to get to know you better.

[BigBadNut]

Just hopped on SA and used a fake pic and email. Always concerned with privacy. With that being sadi I get the feeling that until you pay up there is no real connection to real girls. What is your initial experience? Sounds pretty great but now you have had a moment of reflection. Did you jump on the pay to play immediately?

Best BBN.


Started off a month ago on SA messaging average Hispanic and AA girls. After a lot of back and forth messages, getting to know you type messages, and push for a meet ups I have three AA girls that I've consistently stayed in touch with.

Had a m&g with a thick 24 yr old and the next day had her over to my place. Watched a movie, got to know each other, lot of laughing, establishing some comfort, and turns out we had a lot of things in common and good overall vibe. No FC yet but have plans to meet up and keep this going once our schedules and my budget line up.

Got another thick 23 yr old. Had her over to my place three times in the last three weeks. First date just HJ and BJ. From there on it was straight FC, hanging out, getting to know each other, watching​ movies and she's an overall really down ass chick. She's grateful for my help and no drama so far.

This last chick is younger than the other two (19) so I'm taking my time and really investing in getting to know her. Haven't met up yet but plan to do so soon.

With all three I never came at them with any b. S. I treated them with respect, honest, and overall relaxed and not aggressive. Had good vibes with all three of them and the last thing I want to do is be clingy and suffocating.

But to find these three I had to wade through a lot of other chicks who weren't down for the amount of help I could provide, others it fizzled out real quick, got some to agree to a m&g only to never hear from them, others didn't have any long term perspective and we're about the right now.

Had one girl agree to a nonpaid m&g but bailed because I wouldn't agree to give her some gas money. Told her to think about the long term monetary benefit of coming to an arrangement with me but she wasn't having any of it. She needed her gas money and she needed it at that moment.

So now that my one month subscription is coming to an end I'll take a step back from SA and focus on these three girls for now. And I'll see how it goes because I'll have some big things coming in the Fall career wise and since I'm still pretty young I'll need to focus on that.

[BigBadNut]

Love reading your stuff thoroughly entertaining!


I met a girl today I had briefly txted with a few times over the last 2 weeks. She seemed a bit hesitant and wanted to make sure she wasn't committed to more than a HJ for a paid date. I let her know I wasn't the pushy type and that a HJ was more than enough for a first date. When she got here (which was only a. 16 Uber RT) she was very much on the dykey side. Short hair, baseball cap, jeans, and a hoody. I mean she was straight up gay on sight.

I was more than a bit turned off, but she was here, so we started making out on the couch. I then suggested we just move to the FC. I was a little worried if I was even going to be turned on, but once I got her clothes off, underneath there was a tight, toned, hot little girl in my bed (and with some pretty good skills). She had a sexy looking and tasty kitty, so I indulged in some extended DATY (something I have been sorely missing as of late). An hour later we were done. She was an honor roll junior at a local college. She wasn't too flirty, but was ready to get down and dirty on a dime, or I should say a $.

Most likely I will see her again when time / funds permit.

And just to update:

My Haitian x roommate has moved back in (platonic and paying rent).

My Stripper x is still x'ed out of the picture (although she calls me 5 times a day on one pretext or another). It's amazing how fast she realized that even a cheap SD is still a SD. Oh well.

My ATF has been nickel and diming me. (got to nip that in the bud now).

And seeing my new little girl last night in juxtaposition to my much older roommate caught us all by surprise. As my roommate is just old enough to be her mom.

[HollywoodGuy]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7fbff003-270d-4acc-8fd0-082a9082e849

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ME:
I pay $100 a date once we decide to start an arrangement.

Officialhaleyg
I love what older men do to my body. But I am looking for a higher allowance if you want to get dirty with me, and I will make it worth your while. An inconvenience of mine is that I cannot drive.

ME:
Well that's what uber is for. I have a friend or two that would be willing to pay more. But I get hit on so much that I don't really need to. LMK.

Officialhaleyg
Can I get your friends info? I really am sorry I just need more than that.

ME:
It's cool babe. Let me ask them. They are members of this site (SA). So if they are interested they will contact you directly.

Officialhaleyg
Okay, thank you!

[ScConnoisseur3]

Just hopped on SA and used a fake pic and email. Always concerned with privacy. With that being sadi I get the feeling that until you pay up there is no real connection to real girls. What is your initial experience? Sounds pretty great but now you have had a moment of reflection. Did you jump on the pay to play immediately?

Best BBN.At the end of the day SA is a great place to as HWG puts it shop for girls and have them delivered to your front door. There is an undeniable learning curve involved. But all the best resources to learn are readily available in the Richmond thread. I used a lot of what I read there to achieve a modicum of success in the last month. Personally, I started with the paid subscription and I would have had a lot more success if I had just a little bit more disposable income. But alas, my funds have a non-negotiable cap devoted to this hobby that I'm not really interested in going over.

Furthermore, two of the three AA girls have been slowly fading away back whence they came. One would take a couple of hours to even a day to respond to my texts. Another suddenly developed a bad attitude that she had expertly concealed up to now. Although some only see a girl once and call it quits I am looking for a more long term deal with one of these girls. The 23 year old AA girl that I'm still in contact with has always been the first in line. But I did try to see if the other two would step up but they didn't so I'm going to divest and move on.

My paid subscription to SA ended a couple of days ago. And since I can only afford one SB at a time I'll see how far it goes with my current SB.

[HollywoodGuy]

I had a hot date with my super spinner today, but due to me dropping the ball (without even realizing it until it was too late), I missed my chance. So I went to the sexy lesbian I met a few days ago, but she wanted to see me later tonite, (which didn't fit into my schedule). So I went to my standby (my new little girl), hope she makes it in time (like any minute). Or I am shit out of luck today. And I hate to say it, but I am almost done with the new little girl. She is great for some role play, and not too expensive (under a $), but there are just too many new girls on the horizon.

I am actively talking to the small bbw's now. Mostly they are white and latina. Waiting for a cute one with full lips. lol

update: she is on her way. I need to take care of business before my roommate gets home. lol. but starting tomorrow I am gonna do a few m&g's with some of these subby young bbw's.

[FarFarAway]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7fbff003-270d-4acc-8fd0-082a9082e849

(somewhat edited to save space)

ME:
I pay $100 a date once we decide to start an arrangement.

Officialhaleyg
I love what older men do to my body. But I am looking for a higher allowance if you want to get dirty with me, and I will make it worth your while. An inconvenience of mine is that I cannot drive.

ME:
Well that's what uber is for. I have a friend or two that would be willing to pay more. But I get hit on so much that I don't really need to. LMK.

Officialhaleyg
Can I get your friends info? I really am sorry I just need more than that.

ME:
It's cool babe. Let me ask them. They are members of this site (SA). So if they are interested they will contact you directly.

Officialhaleyg
Okay, thank you!Can you provide the full how-to on ordering an uber for a girl to be delivered to your door (or the M&G) without giving up our personal info to, first, the girl, and second, uber. I have an uber account I use for myself, but I don't want to use that.

[HollywoodGuy]

Can you provide the full how-to on ordering an uber for a girl to be delivered to your door (or the M&G) without giving up our personal info to, first, the girl, and second, uber. I have an uber account I use for myself, but I don't want to use that.Being single. I guess its no big deal for me to call an uber for a girl. But to some what answer your question. The girl would not get my info (except my first name), but of course the uber account is in my name and so there would be a permanent record of that in my uber account. I suppose if you have a burner phone you can have a second account on that, that only you would be privy to.

Also after ordering the uber, I just update the girl as to the minutes to arrival, make and model of the car, and drivers name. And at the last minute the color of the car. Don't want them missing their ride. Occasionally I will call the driver to let them know they are picking up a girl, and give a brief description (like what color top they are wearing).

[Pinay Whisper]

Being single. I guess its no big deal for me to call an uber for a girl. But to some what answer your question. The girl would not get my info (except my first name), but of course the uber account is in my name and so there would be a permanent record of that in my uber account. I suppose if you have a burner phone you can have a second account on that, that only you would be privy to.

Also after ordering the uber, I just update the girl as to the minutes to arrival, make and model of the car, and drivers name. And at the last minute the color of the car. Don't want them missing their ride. Occasionally I will call the driver to let them know they are picking up a girl, and give a brief description (like what color top they are wearing).Uber is better than Lyft. I did Uber many times and the girls never got my real info but Lyft gave one my whole name. You can send the Uber driver a note to tell them your ordering for a friend and give them a description of what she's wearing.

[Dolato]

My paid subscription to SA ended a couple of days ago. And since I can only afford one SB at a time I'll see how far it goes with my current SB.It may be worth the cost to keep the paid subscription so that you can constantly mine the site for POTs. That way if something goes wrong with the current SB, you're not starting from scratch. And since you already have an SB, you can be extra picky with prospects and may find a better option to trade up.

[ScConnoisseur3]

Yeah, I just saw how limited the free site is today.

The other two AA girls I was talking with are MIA thus far. It just seems like I'm always the one that has to try and keep things moving forward. Yet I'm the one with the funds in this arrangement.

The 19 yr old has backed out of m&g repeatedly for one reason or another. I stupidly missed work one day to meet up with her but she never showed. This week she gave me attitude for some random reason. The plus side is that she has a tight 19 yr old spinner body and is hands down the best looking one out of all three.

The 24 yr old is always busy and it seems like she just wants to meet up for quick little meet ups. Thus, she has built in excuses for when she has to take off because she has "things to do later. " I think I'm done with this one.

But the 23 yr old SB is down for everything, chill attitude, cute and thick. We're getting to know each other better and I can see this lasting as long as I want it too. She's grateful for the help I provide and doesn't complain about needing more.

Whatever happens in the next few days to weeks is fine with me though. One thing I have learned about myself is that I hands down prefer AA girls over any others. And I'll move forward with that knowledge in mind. I'll target all my future searches towards AA girls.

[HollywoodGuy]

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6028-Photography-getting-her-to-pose

I listened to JHC and followed up on a 19 year old, Latina, BBW college student. She was super friendly and I realized we had actually only txted prior to meeting today. I was going to see my ATF but she flaked due to the holiday. So anyway I txted the above linked perky sophomore and she was here in like 45 minutes. We went straight to the sofa and began to kiss and she was moaning almost immediately and telling me how horny she was. So I indulged her willing mouth with my already hard member. She got right on her knees and went to work. Once I determined her skills were up to speed we retired to the FC.

There was no way I was going to bang this girl, so I thought I would just see how orally fixated she was. I positioned her to have easy access to her wet and hungry holes, while she went to town on my C&B's accompanied by a pleasurable prostate massage. She loved the two glass dildos I inserted into her and took them eagerly. Within a few minutes she was already squirting, calling me Daddy and saying yes sir to my every demand.

After about a half hour, I had sampled enough of her skills (and the prostate massage was starting to kick in), so rather than go the full hour I just let go. She was thoroughly pleased and smiling from ear to ear. She said she was available most anytime if she wasnt in class and that she aimed to please. There is a good chance I would see her again (as I am sure she would take a little less than the $ to keep me happy, plus she had her own transportation).

For a first time session she had some really good BJ skills, and I am sure I could train her to basically be perfect in that dept. All in all it opened my eyes a little to what more is out there in the sugar world. I have spent the last couple of days messaging these obviously subby/chubby white, latina and asian girls. But as far as the AA girls I am going to stick to the spinners.

[ScConnoisseur3]

Well, I got in touch with the 19 yr old AA spinner and it seemed like we were back on track. I offered to take her out on a date today. She agreed and we were set to met up at 1:30 pm She pushed it back to 2 and at 1:30 texts me if we can meet up closer to where she lives. That it was too far away for her to drive. I'm already at the location we agreed on and she wants me to drive into LA.

This is the second time she flakes on me. Not cool. There's really no reason for me to stubbornly pursue this one chick. When I have another AA chick that's down for everything already.

I'm down to put in work but when a girl makes you wait this long it's never worth it in the end.

[HollywoodGuy]

Well, I got in touch with the 19 yr old AA spinner and it seemed like we were back on track. I offered to take her out on a date today. She agreed and we were set to met up at 1:30 pm She pushed it back to 2 and at 1:30 texts me if we can meet up closer to where she lives. That it was too far away for her to drive. I'm already at the location we agreed on and she wants me to drive into LA.

This is the second time she flakes on me. Not cool. There's really no reason for me to stubbornly pursue this one chick. When I have another AA chick that's down for everything already.

I'm down to put in work but when a girl makes you wait this long it's never worth it in the end.Too many willing girls to get hung up on one, that's for sure.

[Venator]

It's amazing what no interest to a girl's financial expectations will do when approached with a lower offer. Long story short, the girl that said she wasn't "cheap labor, honey" got a dose of reality and brought her expectation waaay down. This one is a definite lock for the FC. Met up last night, checked her ID, bought her some food and drink chatted for over 2 hours just seeing if we click. She was pretty much rubbing her legs like a cricket and really wanted to make out which I obliged. Told me she was glad she took a chance on a guy double her age since she doesn't think she can find anyone around her age to satisfy her "needs". 20 yo average to somewhat thicker bottom end, Latina college student pretty much said she was "wet and ready to go. " On our way to dropping her back off at her place she was telling me next time she was wanting to show me more of herself and what she can do. I am looking forward to seeing how this develops although I hold no expectations. Oh and the braces were a definite turn on. Overall my luck on SA is not the best but since my level of effort is minimum it's to be expected. Like I've heard before "sometimes the sun shines on a dogs ass the somedays" LOL

[Leiterf]

I'm new to the SA website. I haven't paid for the upgrade because I'm just checking it out. Do I need to upgrade to be able to talk to one of these young ladies? I've messaged several and get no response. One girl messaged me but I couldn't read it. All of my messages have my email.

[HollywoodGuy]

I just saw my college sophomore and got one the dirtiest oral experiences of my life. She spent a good half hour with her tongue up my ass while her hands took care of my C&B's. She alternated occasionally to make sure they were sufficiently slobbered up, with as much DT as I wanted. Girls like this are a rarity (at least for me).

There is more I could tell, I even had a first time experience that I will not detail here. This girl gleefully just does it all and with no time limit that I have reached yet. I am sure she could easily go an hour. But I was fine with the half. One benefit of paying a $, it takes the urgency out of worrying about maxing out the time.

[Member #2041]

I'm new to the SA website. I haven't paid for the upgrade because I'm just checking it out. Do I need to upgrade to be able to talk to one of these young ladies? I've messaged several and get no response. One girl messaged me but I couldn't read it. All of my messages have my email.I found that if you include your e-mail, the SA site has software that will detect it and convert your message to the following:

"You caught my attention. Are you interested in an arrangement?

[FarFarAway]

I found that if you include your e-mail, the SA site has software that will detect it and convert your message to the following:

"You caught my attention. Are you interested in an arrangement?I think it does not matter what you type in the message when you haven't paid, they send that same message. And, it *really* doesn't matter, because you can't read any response anyway. The site is absolutely useless w / out a paid membership, and if you are too cheap or too poor to pay $80 for your first month's tryout, I can't forecast any success for you in the sugar bowl.

Our newbie needs to spend a day or three reading the highlights section of the Richmond, VA sugar thread.

[Leiterf]

I think it does not matter what you type in the message when you haven't paid, they send that same message. And, it *really* doesn't matter, because you can't read any response anyway. The site is absolutely useless w / out a paid membership, and if you are too cheap or too poor to pay $80 for your first month's tryout, I can't forecast any success for you in the sugar bowl.

Our newbie needs to spend a day or three reading the highlights section of the Richmond, VA sugar thread.Thanks. I wasn't sure what the deal was. I'm not cheap, I just didn't know you had to pay to see replies.

Let me ask this. Is it worth it? Do you guys get plenty of action? For the last 15 years I have stuck to AAMP or AMP. What's the advantage to the Sugar scene?

[HollywoodGuy]

I do not have sex on the first meeting unless I feel comfortable with you. (LOL).

If that's all you're interested in, don't bother sending me a message. (sounds conflicted).

I'm not into douchebags or trump supporters. (picky picky).

[Member #2041]

I'm not into douchebags or trump supporters. (picky picky).OTOH, she has no problem with redundancy, obviously.

[John HandCock]

Thanks. I wasn't sure what the deal was. I'm not cheap, I just didn't know you had to pay to see replies.

Let me ask this. Is it worth it? Do you guys get plenty of action? For the last 15 years I have stuck to AAMP or AMP. What's the advantage to the Sugar scene?It depends on what your looking for. It has something for everyone including the pros and utr. The term sb usually comes with an increased price. There is also the time and effort spent in finding what your looking for. Its a totally different world than what your used to. . If your not cheap firk over th 80 and try a month. Nothing ventured nothing gained. If your not happy after the month let membership die and back to the AMPs.

[HollywoodGuy]

It depends on what your looking for. It has something for everyone including the pros and utr. The term sb usually comes with an increased price. There is also the time and effort spent in finding what your looking for. Its a totally different world than what your used to. . If your not cheap firk over th 80 and try a month. Nothing ventured nothing gained. If your not happy after the month let membership die and back to the AMPs.Ditto that.

[KingBaby]

I would fucking kill to be in my early 20's again.

What the hell are you doing?

I can't speak for everybody else, but the only reason I do this is because I'm old and ugly and have a lot of extra cash in my wallet.

My advice to you: Go to college. You'll be surrounded by THOUSANDS of young girls, and they will all be available to you. Girls are so slutty these days compared to when I was your age that I can't imagine a young guy like you not being able to get laid with multiple girls all the time. Especially since so many dudes your age are hopelessly addicted to porn and video games.

Once you're out of college, spend the rest of your 20's and 30's working 60-80 hours a week starting up businesses and side gigs and trying to get rich.

That way, when you're in your 40's and college girls think of you as a creepy old man, you'll just be able to buy them like we do.

Seriously. Get the fuck out of here.I agree. I still remember the date that I graduated from college, as if it was yesterday. Because I went to "1 of those schools" in Boston, I thought my life was going to be golden from that point onwards Well, the the All Mighty had different plans:

In 2008, I got laid off from a Fortune 100 company here in Southern California. Along with the Housing Bubble, I lost everything. My bank account at its lowest point had 120.65, that was my networth. Like WHM69 said. I spent most of my 20's & early 30's to recover from that. Now I am in my late 30's, I just bought a condo, which ironically, is 1 block away from the house that I got foreclosed on almost 10 yrs ago.

My advice to any young man is GET LAID in college AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! Times go by fast and once you are out of college, it will be faster than a bullet.

[HollywoodGuy]

I agree. I still remember the date that I graduated from college, as if it was yesterday. Because I went to "1 of those schools" in Boston, I thought my life was going to be golden from that point onwards Well, the the All Mighty had different plans:

In 2008, I got laid off from a Fortune 100 company here in Southern California. Along with the Housing Bubble, I lost everything. My bank account at its lowest point had 120.65, that was my networth. Like WHM69 said. I spent most of my 20's & early 30's to recover from that. Now I am in my late 30's, I just bought a condo, which ironically, is 1 block away from the house that I got foreclosed on almost 10 yrs ago.

My advice to any young man is GET LAID in college AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! Times go by fast and once you are out of college, it will be faster than a bullet.I still beg to differ, but to change the subject a little. How about those Nips? Cam Girl. I know some cam girls sugar. Anyone here ever get lucky with one. I had one once by accident that didn't work out (didn't know she cammed till after I met her). But I admit that one of the items on my bucket list is to woo one or two when I can afford it.

[WHM69]

I still beg to differ, but to change the subject a little. How about those Nips? Cam Girl. I know some cam girls sugar. Anyone here ever get lucky with one. I had one once by accident that didn't work out (didn't know she cammed till after I met her). But I admit that one of the items on my bucket list is to woo one or two when I can afford it."Rachel Evans" from Chaturbate. Love that girl, but she's in Colombia.

Maybe if you flew yourself down there you could woo her.

[Leiterf]

I'm a noob to the SB thing. After too many high priced Asian chicks or non responses. I talked to this 38 year old Latina MILF. Tiny little spinner. We met at a hotel. She was all over me right away. Started DFK and then she was, taking my clothes off and licking the boys and giving a nice wet sloppy BBBJ. She was nude in no time. I was doing DATY for awhile then she wanted CMISH. After awhile she pulled off the cover and went for more BBBJ and DATY. Then she let me do BB MISH. And during one of her many Os she says please CIM and all over my face. So, of course I did. So much went on. T Bagging, RIM etc.

This all went on for 4 hours. I am still wiped out. Think I will send the day resting.

[Member #5570]

I'm a noob to the SB thing. After too many high priced Asian chicks or non responses. I talked to this 38 year old Latina MILF. Tiny little spinner. We met at a hotel. She was all over me right away. Started DFK and then she was, taking my clothes off and licking the boys and giving a nice wet sloppy BBBJ. She was nude in no time. I was doing DATY for awhile then she wanted CMISH. After awhile she pulled off the cover and went for more BBBJ and DATY. Then she let me do BB MISH. And during one of her many Os she says please CIM and all over my face. So, of course I did. So much went on. T Bagging, RIM etc.

This all went on for 4 hours. I am still wiped out. Think I will send the day resting.MILFs are often overlooked. Some of my best experiences are with milfs.

Lonely, horny, and desperate for some hard cocks and just to be treated right for once. They are often neglected and badly treated by their exes. They are often without drama and the $ is low. Unless you run into UTR or semi pro MILFs, then they would be asking for more $$ But of course yiy can easily spot those quickly.

Enjoy my friend, looks like you got a good MILF to bang.

[Madaboutmax]

I dated a girl off SA probably a dozen times over a 2 year period. I found after we had met several times that her primary income was as a Dom Cam Girl. We talked about it a lot because I am dominant and she really enjoyed being submissive.

She explained most guys that like to submissive also like to be verbally mistreated which was easy for her because she actually pittied them. LOL.

It was crazy because she really liked to be spanked, gagged, choked and restrained. She said I was also her first anal. On our first date!!

She knew she could make more money as a Dom, but actually was submissive and really enjoyed it!!

Awww the memories! LOL.


I still beg to differ, but to change the subject a little. How about those Nips? Cam Girl. I know some cam girls sugar. Anyone here ever get lucky with one. I had one once by accident that didn't work out (didn't know she cammed till after I met her). But I admit that one of the items on my bucket list is to woo one or two when I can afford it.

[Venator]

I'm a noob to the SB thing. After too many high priced Asian chicks or non responses. I talked to this 38 year old Latina MILF. Tiny little spinner. We met at a hotel. She was all over me right away. Started DFK and then she was, taking my clothes off and licking the boys and giving a nice wet sloppy BBBJ. She was nude in no time. I was doing DATY for awhile then she wanted CMISH. After awhile she pulled off the cover and went for more BBBJ and DATY. Then she let me do BB MISH. And during one of her many Os she says please CIM and all over my face. So, of course I did. So much went on. T Bagging, RIM etc.

This all went on for 4 hours. I am still wiped out. Think I will send the day resting.Oh man MILFs especially the Latina ones are gold my friend. The first MILF I saw was Latina still hits me up from time to time just needing a little help with hair, nails, a phone bill, etc. Always a freak and always a good time to be had.

[Dsprdo]

Cam Girl. I know some cam girls sugar. Anyone here ever get lucky with one. I had one once by accident that didn't work out (didn't know she cammed till after I met her).One of my first long term girls on SA started out with me as the 3rd guy she had ever been with. We were together almost two years so I got to know her pretty well and believed her. She took her profile down because she said "she didn't want a long list". She was one of the most orgasmic women I have ever known. I had to wash the sheets immediately after every visit because she squirted so much. I introduced her to the Hitachi and other toys and she cam out of her shell. The last time I saw her she told me she had just started cam-ing and it really suited her because she enjoyed coming so much. After that she was always too busy (and didn't need any cash). I feel like I got her out of her shell and set the little bird free to cam.

[Leiterf]

Oh man MILFs especially the Latina ones are gold my friend. The first MILF I saw was Latina still hits me up from time to time just needing a little help with hair, nails, a phone bill, etc. Always a freak and always a good time to be had.Yeah she's cool. 250 donation for 4 hrs.

[HollywoodGuy]

Just finished a M&G with a 20 college student from Pasadena. She drove her own car, got here right on time, and went straight to work. It was pretty hot but I had to settle for a topless HJ and reciprocated with the magic wand. I could tell from the vibe that I wasn't going to talk her out of her jeans, so I didn't even try. But it beats Miller time, anytime.

[Venator]

Yeah she's cool. 250 donation for 4 hrs.Right on brother! Not bad, I saw the 20yo Latina college student on Sunday and it was on like Donkey Kong! Said she wanted 2 initially but afterward said. 80 is fine so we met halfway. After 3 1/2 hours and she was asking when are we going to meet up again and not to worry about helping her out if I didn't want. She was just stoked about being with someone who focused on her. I'd hadn't gone that kind of distance / endurance in quite some time. Definitely going to keep this one around till it runs its course.

[Beachesnole02]

I just saw my college sophomore

There is more I could tell, I even had a first time experience that I will not detail here. .Oh come on HG Given all you have shared over the years, I am wondering what could possibly be a "first time" experience at this state.

[HollywoodGuy]

Oh come on HG Given all you have shared over the years, I am wondering what could possibly be a "first time" experience at this state.I am not going to tell. lol. But I can think of a few things That I still haven't done that I think about. Today I spent my lunch hour with my super spinner. It was only our 4th date but definitely the best one yet. She is so sweet and loves role play. This month I am totally on target. Twelve trips to the FC for 1.2k.... I will say my girls are not always the prettiest (although pretty enough), but they are all sweet, kind and giving. Mostly all AA, mostly all spinners, and not greedy at all. I wish I would have learned all this stuff years ago. Back then I would find one lucky girl and then stick to her like glue. I didn't have the time or money to do much else. But it's in the variety that you start to acquire a sense knowing and a comfort zone that these girls totally pick up on. You're relaxed, they're relaxed and then things just flow naturally.

The student from a few days ago was basically a first timer, so keeping her in her comfort zone was pretty important. My super spinner who is a little older and bolder doesn't need much encouragement (basically none) to do whatever I want. But if you are gonna date the young ones you have to be ready to lead the way and not let things get awkward. The MILF's have all been there and done that. There is probably nothing you could say or do that would throw them off their game (as recent posts have attested to). But there is nothing sweeter than knowing a young girl has given some part of herself to you for the first time. All I know is that it makes my day. Thank you SA, the Internet, this forum, our multi-cultural society, ridiculous tuition, and the absurd cost of living in L.A.

As a side note I was reading an article in a women's magazine about older men and younger women. The age spread was mostly between 10 and 15 years. At 20 years it was like some shocking omg thing. What world do these people live in?

Also a shout out to my friends in the fetish world. Just google "EBF foot party" if you want to know more. If you've got nothing better to do this friday, its a place to relax and even prospect for some SB's. I've met more than a few girls there and at other events willing to sugar date and even civi date.

[HollywoodGuy]

Whats is it with girls taking selfies in my bathroom? Some kind of cultural phenomena.

I have 11 POTS on my radar... average age 20, average height 5.4, average weight 110.

I guess that's my type. 9 AA and 2 latinas

[DrMcNaughty]

Do your homework =).


One of my first long term girls on SA started out with me as the 3rd guy she had ever been with. We were together almost two years so I got to know her pretty well and believed her. She took her profile down because she said "she didn't want a long list". She was one of the most orgasmic women I have ever known. I had to wash the sheets immediately after every visit because she squirted so much. I introduced her to the Hitachi and other toys and she cam out of her shell. The last time I saw her she told me she had just started cam-ing and it really suited her because she enjoyed coming so much. After that she was always too busy (and didn't need any cash). I feel like I got her out of her shell and set the little bird free to cam.

[Leiterf]

Right on brother! Not bad, I saw the 20yo Latina college student on Sunday and it was on like Donkey Kong! Said she wanted 2 initially but afterward said. 80 is fine so we met halfway. After 3 1/2 hours and she was asking when are we going to meet up again and not to worry about helping her out if I didn't want. She was just stoked about being with someone who focused on her. I'd hadn't gone that kind of distance / endurance in quite some time. Definitely going to keep this one around till it runs its course.I need to find one like that!

[Jdb1911]

Follow up report to young LB bare. She's not interested. I just left her place and she got mad this time. So I'm sorry fellas.

I don't know which category this next part belongs in so mods if it needs to be moved then move it for me or delete. If you truly want young bare and you have just a little bit of patience I'd check out SA sugar daddy site. But you have to screen out the backpage broads and the pros masquerading. I go for the ones who have school verified. I met me a nice Filipina. Been in the country for 4 years and studying to get her GED. 150 a meet with 2 pops cip.

I got a sophomore at Dominguez hills. I literally pick her up from the dorms and we go to the dare you inn in Gardena off the 91.2 pops no cip yet but 250.

I got me a Latina who works at waba grill 22 and prob one of the cutest broads I banged ever. All night if I want but no cip. Super freak and tightest pussy ever.

I got me a tsa agent 23 black spinner cute as a button and loves to suck dick. At first it was 250 a meet but talked her down to 175 a meet and I get the motel room. Can cip if I buy plan b.

That initial investment I made 3 months ago has netted me 4 bares none over 250 a meet. And most 150.

[HollywoodGuy]

Follow up report to young LB bare. She's not interested. I just left her place and she got mad this time. So I'm sorry fellas.

I don't know which category this next part belongs in so mods if it needs to be moved then move it for me or delete. If you truly want young bare and you have just a little bit of patience I'd check out SA sugar daddy site. But you have to screen out the backpage broads and the pros masquerading. I go for the ones who have school verified. I met me a nice Filipina. Been in the country for 4 years and studying to get her GED. 150 a meet with 2 pops cip.

I got a sophomore at Dominguez hills. I literally pick her up from the dorms and we go to the dare you inn in Gardena off the 91.2 pops no cip yet but 250.

I got me a Latina who works at waba grill 22 and prob one of the cutest broads I banged ever. All night if I want but no cip. Super freak and tightest pussy ever.

I got me a tsa agent 23 black spinner cute as a button and loves to suck dick. At first it was 250 a meet but talked her down to 175 a meet and I get the motel room. Can cip if I buy plan b.

That initial investment I made 3 months ago has netted me 4 bares none over 250 a meet. And most 150.It's all good. Keep the reports coming, and with pics if possible. Thanks.

[HollywoodGuy]

1 - Introduce yourself and find out her reasons for being on the SD site. Do they worship cash, are they emotionally unbalanced or needy, are they horny, or are they seeking a mentor type relationship? Get them to prioritize their needs for you.

It will be all or some of the above.

2- No matter what they say find out in a general way what their financial needs are.

3- Once you find out, state what you can offer per date without defining what a date is.

4- If they agree to your per date amount... move to txting or email and let them know specifically what your expectations are for them to receive the agreed upon allowance.

5- Make your date or move to the next one.

[Venator]

1 - Introduce yourself and find out her reasons for being on the SD site. Do they worship cash, are they emotionally unbalanced or needy, are they horny, or are they seeking a mentor type relationship? Get them to prioritize their needs for you.

It will be all or some of the above.

2- No matter what they say find out in a general way what their financial needs are.

3- Once you find out, state what you can offer per date without defining what a date is.

4- If they agree to your per date amount... move to txting or email and let them know specifically what your expectations are for them to receive the agreed upon allowance.

5- Make your date or move to the next one.This!

It's more or less the method I've learned to do with some moderate success.

[Venator]

I need to find one like that!They're definitely out there but I found if one doesn't think with the little head you can score some gems. At first this one hit me with $4500 per visit and telling me she wasn't cheap labor. I pretty much acted like I didn't give a shit, shined her on not pay attention to her and then 2 months later she must have been desperate. Unfortunately she's finishing up her school year so she's going to head home for the summer so we'll see if she hits me up next semester. I do have her replacement almost dialed in and she would maybe qualify to Hollywood Guy standards. Fairly pretty, AA, 5'0, slim but 36 C's seems like she's pretty horny but we'll see how that turns out.

[NutSoGood]

New to the forum, but not the hobby, been doing it for a while and wanted to try out the SD sites. CL is getting pretty slim. Was curious which one had better results. I joined both, but only want to get a paid membership to 1 of them. Or is there another site I have not listed?

Thanks in advance for any advice you have.

[HollywoodGuy]

New to the forum, but not the hobby, been doing it for a while and wanted to try out the SD sites. CL is getting pretty slim. Was curious which one had better results. I joined both, but only want to get a paid membership to 1 of them. Or is there another site I have not listed?

Thanks in advance for any advice you have.SA is my preference.

[ChiCity]

How are you all sending the SB your photos?

Before I would just send the girls a Dropbox link to a folder with my images. But the last 2 girls I did this with said they couldn't click the link which tells me that maybe SA is interfering with the link somehow.

I have reservations about putting my photos on the website itself. Is there anyother way to do this?

[TheHuntsman]

I live in the the inland empire area, but since there isn't much action on that page I'll post here.

Jdb1911 I've enjoyed your reports and that you don't mind spending 250. I've seen lots of reports on here of guys trying to keep the rate in the 100 range. I wouldn't mind if it was kept that low but I feel the 200 range is fair considering what we are getting. Most pros on BP want in the 200-300 range for an hour and they deliver shitty service. A nice fresh non pro who will let you bang them multiple times for an hour or two, bare oral, possibly allow you to film or go bare and nut in them is totally work 200+ in my opinion.

[ChiCity]

1 - Introduce yourself and find out her reasons for being on the SD site. Do they worship cash, are they emotionally unbalanced or needy, are they horny, or are they seeking a mentor type relationship? Get them to prioritize their needs for you.

It will be all or some of the above.

2- No matter what they say find out in a general way what their financial needs are.

3- Once you find out, state what you can offer per date without defining what a date is.

4- If they agree to your per date amount... move to txting or email and let them know specifically what your expectations are for them to receive the agreed upon allowance.

5- Make your date or move to the next one.HG, what do you think is the best way to accomplish #1?

Have you been more successful being straight forward there? Or are you more about finding this out over 3-4 messages by just being conversational?

Also, at what point do you usually send them your picture?

[Jdb1911]

I live in the the inland empire area, but since there isn't much action on that page I'll post here.

Jdb1911 I've enjoyed your reports and that you don't mind spending 250. I've seen lots of reports on here of guys trying to keep the rate in the 100 range. I wouldn't mind if it was kept that low but I feel the 200 range is fair considering what we are getting. Most pros on BP want in the 200-300 range for an hour and they deliver shitty service. A nice fresh non pro who will let you bang them multiple times for an hour or two, bare oral, possibly allow you to film or go bare and nut in them is totally work 200+ in my opinion.What I have found is the ones who accept 100 are more than likely backpage broads. In fact, I have caught at least 7 chicks who also post on backpage because they are so dumb they give me the same hooker phone number. I seek out girls who use words like up for adventure and good ole NSA in their profiles.

I have had luck with 2 younger girls for 100-150 range and they were not very good looking. The girls I'm banging for 250 are hot with tight bodies. And we fuck for hours or until I'm done.

[Jdb1911]

These are just a few of the girls I met and fucked from SA. I'll let you decide what I paid 100-150 for and which ones I paid 250 for. But you literally get what you pay for. But truth be told every girl on their I fucked twice in one session and a few bare.

Also as far as pictures. I put a picture of me on a golf course with a hat and sunglasses on. I'm not comfortable with putting a full face pic on the site. When I asked the girls none seemed to mind.

[HollywoodGuy]

HG, what do you think is the best way to accomplish #1?

Have you been more successful being straight forward there? Or are you more about finding this out over 3-4 messages by just being conversational?

Also, at what point do you usually send them your picture?I get pretty direct. And my real pics are in my profile. But I am single.

[TheHuntsman]

These are just a few of the girls I met and fucked from SA. I'll let you decide what I paid 100-150 for and which ones I paid 250 for. But you literally get what you pay for. But truth be told every girl on their I fucked twice in one session and a few bare.

Also as far as pictures. I put a picture of me on a golf course with a hat and sunglasses on. I'm not comfortable with putting a full face pic on the site. When I asked the girls none seemed to mind.Haha I also fucked #7. I better start wrapping it up LOL.

[TheHuntsman]

What I have found is the ones who accept 100 are more than likely backpage broads. In fact, I have caught at least 7 chicks who also post on backpage because they are so dumb they give me the same hooker phone number. I seek out girls who use words like up for adventure and good ole NSA in their profiles.

I have had luck with 2 younger girls for 100-150 range and they were not very good looking. The girls I'm banging for 250 are hot with tight bodies. And we fuck for hours or until I'm done.That's so funny! Just last night I googled this girl's phone number and I saw her BP ads. As much as I don't mind spending in the 200 range a lot of girls throw out 250-350 right off the bat. I've when seen a few girls ask for 500 which is insane to me.

[Jdb1911]

Haha I also fucked #7. I better start wrapping it up LOL.She gives a great bbj but she was kinda weird so I passed on bare. I still fixed though LOL.

[HuksAlot]

These are just a few of the girls I met and fucked from SA. I'll let you decide what I paid 100-150 for and which ones I paid 250 for. But you literally get what you pay for. But truth be told every girl on their I fucked twice in one session and a few bare.

Also as far as pictures. I put a picture of me on a golf course with a hat and sunglasses on. I'm not comfortable with putting a full face pic on the site. When I asked the girls none seemed to mind.SA is a gold mine of pussy. I'm Portland based and 200 or sub a date for raw play is the norm for any lady. Just do your homework, pick carefully and be safe.

[Bucweak]

I still beg to differ, but to change the subject a little. How about those Nips? Cam Girl. I know some cam girls sugar. Anyone here ever get lucky with one. I had one once by accident that didn't work out (didn't know she cammed till after I met her). But I admit that one of the items on my bucket list is to woo one or two when I can afford it.I follow this chick on Chaturbate. I don't even had to see her face, I know her body. On the webcam she claim she from Colombia.

[ShyLover]

Sign up on S. A finding a sugar baby. I send many msgs, got in contact with this sugar baby, after a few msg on the site we exchange phone numbers. We started texting, after a 4 days we decide to meet up.

When we met up, talked for 40 minutes, communication was flowing well. I told her how I'm new to this type of arrangement. She told me she felt comfortable with me and wanted to start an arrangement that same day with me, she ask me for her allowance, we square cash she send me a request of $400. We continue talking in good faith I approved the request, we were getting a room. She was following and then she split LOL. I know I'm such an idiot.

Now she's not answering text of calls, damn it. ! So after searching online with the photo she share with me I found out she's actually an escort. Should have done my homework before hand. I know I'm a rookie.

Anyways I contacted with another number for her escort ad. I started communicating with her and we setup a date for today evening. I'm having second doubts about it, should I go with it and confront her about it or just take the loss. She will be coming to a hotel room I got.

Looking for opinions.

[Leiterf]

Sign up on S. A finding a sugar baby. I send many msgs, got in contact with this sugar baby, after a few msg on the site we exchange phone numbers. We started texting, after a 4 days we decide to meet up.

When we met up, talked for 40 minutes, communication was flowing well. I told her how I'm new to this type of arrangement. She told me she felt comfortable with me and wanted to start an arrangement that same day with me, she ask me for her allowance, we square cash she send me a request of $400. We continue talking in good faith I approved the request, we were getting a room. She was following and then she split LOL. I know I'm such an idiot.

Now she's not answering text of calls, damn it. ! So after searching online with the photo she share with me I found out she's actually an escort. Should have done my homework before hand. I know I'm a rookie.

Anyways I contacted with another number for her escort ad. I started communicating with her and we setup a date for today evening. I'm having second doubts about it, should I go with it and confront her about it or just take the loss. She will be coming to a hotel room I got.

Looking for opinions.First off, I have to agree with you on your comment.

Hell yes get your money or at least bang her.

[HollywoodGuy]

Sign up on S. A finding a sugar baby. I send many msgs, got in contact with this sugar baby, after a few msg on the site we exchange phone numbers. We started texting, after a 4 days we decide to meet up.

When we met up, talked for 40 minutes, communication was flowing well. I told her how I'm new to this type of arrangement. She told me she felt comfortable with me and wanted to start an arrangement that same day with me, she ask me for her allowance, we square cash she send me a request of $400. We continue talking in good faith I approved the request, we were getting a room. She was following and then she split LOL. I know I'm such an idiot.

Now she's not answering text of calls, damn it. ! So after searching online with the photo she share with me I found out she's actually an escort. Should have done my homework before hand. I know I'm a rookie.

Anyways I contacted with another number for her escort ad. I started communicating with her and we setup a date for today evening. I'm having second doubts about it, should I go with it and confront her about it or just take the loss. She will be coming to a hotel room I got.

Looking for opinions.Never pay in advance?

[Leiterf]

OK so I decided to try a second SB. And for the guys that want to message me and ask how to hook up with her. Don't, I'm not sharing my SB, sorry. I do share AMP and AAMP info but that's it.

My second girl is early 30's and Asian. She's a MILF. Trying to provide for her kids and has a regular job. She likes to text a lot and we get a long quite well.

I met her yesterday and picked her up from her job. We went to a local No tell.

She was cute with a decent body after having two kids. She's Asian so she is small.

We made out a lot, BBBJ, DATY, mutual DATO, many positions, and CIM. All BB for two hours.

Allowance was 150. She never asked for an amount and was OK with what I gave her.

She texted almost all night after I got home and today. She seems to really like me. But who knows if it's really an act.

I asked her what she thought about just dating me and not being my SB. She said how does she know that I would only see her? I said same applies to you. Then she said she really needs the money to pay bills. I told her if I was exclusive with her we dated she can't bang other dudes for an allowance. I said we can think on it. Then she said she really likes me and would see me with no allowance. And not see other men.

Do you guys buy it?

[John HandCock]

Never pay in advance?Unless your prepared for it to get ugly write it off as a learning experience. Or you could write a bad review for her as an escort. That would probably hurt her more. Also post a link here on her sa profile so anyone on sa knows.

[Dctator1]

OK so I decided to try a second SB. And for the guys that want to message me and ask how to hook up with her. Don't, I'm not sharing my SB, sorry. I do share AMP and AAMP info but that's it.

My second girl is early 30's and Asian. She's a MILF. Trying to provide for her kids and has a regular job. She likes to text a lot and we get a long quite well.

I met her yesterday and picked her up from her job. We went to a local No tell.

She was cute with a decent body after having two kids. She's Asian so she is small.

We made out a lot, BBBJ, DATY, mutual DATO, many positions, and CIM. All BB for two hours.

Allowance was 150. She never asked for an amount and was OK with what I gave her.

She texted almost all night after I got home and today. She seems to really like me. But who knows if it's really an act.

I asked her what she thought about just dating me and not being my SB. She said how does she know that I would only see her? I said same applies to you. Then she said she really needs the money to pay bills. I told her if I was exclusive with her we dated she can't bang other dudes for an allowance. I said we can think on it. Then she said she really likes me and would see me with no allowance. And not see other men.

Do you guys buy it?First, nice find. Did you meet on SA or another site?

In my experiences, I would not believe her until you get to know her better. But that is just me. Sounds like she is into you, but when it comes down to it, you don't know anything about her and if she get's desperate for cash, she will do what she has to to make money.

But hopefully it will wok out for you, sounds like a great arrangement.

[Jdb1911]

That's so funny! Just last night I googled this girl's phone number and I saw her BP ads. As much as I don't mind spending in the 200 range a lot of girls throw out 250-350 right off the bat. I've when seen a few girls ask for 500 which is insane to me.Yeah you really have to screen these broads out tough. I found at least 10 backpage broads but at least 7 didn't come at me higher than 150 for an hr. My first SB was a backpage broad I banged 2 years ago. She stopped doing backpage and is full time sb. She was a good fuck so I fucked her but not after taking 150 off and paying her 100 LOL.

After that you just got to go with your spidey senses. A chick who moves faster than you is likely a prostitute. The if she answers questions about herself but doesn't even care what you do, she's likely a pro. Not saying pros are bad but don't overpay.

[Falar]

I would definitely move on. It's not worth it. View it as a lesson learnt. It's good that you experience it early in the game. You will be ready and move decisive. When you have you next experience.

[ShyLover]

Unless your prepared for it to get ugly write it off as a learning experience. Or you could write a bad review for her as an escort. That would probably hurt her more. Also post a link here on her sa profile so anyone on sa knows.Don't how things will turn, ill probably have her come to a far hotel from her. Then tell its whom you ran with the allowance I gave you.

She looked so innocent didn't think it was possible. Damn I really do want to bang her though. Hard choice I need for things to cool down then ill pay her escort fee, minus the money I gave her in advance. I won't do that ill pay her the full amount.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d1192d09-ee83-464a-ab92-9d971523aa1b

If any of you guys want to try her.

https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/files/4355043.htm?cat=1

[TheHuntsman]

She gives a great bbj but she was kinda weird so I passed on bare. I still fixed though LOL.I didn't really dig her bbj. She was okay but she looks better in pics. Was disappointed when I saw her ass. I just stayed there for one nut and left. LOL.

[Jdb1911]

Don't how things will turn, ill probably have her come to a far hotel from her. Then tell its whom you ran with the allowance I gave you.

She looked so innocent didn't think it was possible. Damn I really do want to bang her though. Hard choice I need for things to cool down then ill pay her escort fee, minus the money I gave her in advance. I won't do that ill pay her the full amount.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d1192d09-ee83-464a-ab92-9d971523aa1b

If any of you guys want to try her.

https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/files/4355043.htm?cat=1She is hot but you can get better from a real non pro on SA. Just know this I have never ever paid up front with any girl I met on SA. There is no incentive once they have cash in hand. At least that's my point of view. Until you build some sort of rapport with them I wouldn't trust them. Not with 400 before you in the room.

[Leiterf]

First, nice find. Did you meet on SA or another site?

In my experiences, I would not believe her until you get to know her better. But that is just me. Sounds like she is into you, but when it comes down to it, you don't know anything about her and if she get's desperate for cash, she will do what she has to to make money.

But hopefully it will wok out for you, sounds like a great arrangement.Well yesterday she was texting me and I asked why she needed extra cash if she is divorced. I said doesn't your ex pay child support and spousal support? She said no. Said she didn't know why he didn't have to pay. I called BS cause we all know how the courts work in CA. I'm divorced so I know the deal. I then asked are you really divorced and she said will I be mad if she is. And said yes but she's going to divorce him. Who knows what's the truth. She asked me if I would still date her? She said no allowance just dating and she won't see anyone else. I said you are still married. She asked me if I would be ok with it as long as she only fucks her hisband once a week. WTF? If I'm just dating then I expect both sides are loyal. She seemed really upset and kept texting how sorry she is and how I'm the best guy she ever met. Asked me to please thinknit over.

[Jdb1911]

I didn't really dig her bbj. She was okay but she looks better in pics. Was disappointed when I saw her ass. I just stayed there for one nut and left. LOL.I was definitely disappointed with her body and she def looks better in pics. Her BBJ was lots of spitting and no hands. I would never see her again though. I busted 2 one from BBJ LOL.

She's weird though after the bbj she went into her living room to play with her rabbits. Like literally left me in her bedroom alone for 10 minutes. So I went through her stuff. She's clean, had some paperwork from some local free clinic and birth control pills on her bed.

[Dctator1]

Well yesterday she was texting me and I asked why she needed extra cash if she is divorced. I said doesn't your ex pay child support and spousal support? She said no. Said she didn't know why he didn't have to pay. I called BS cause we all know how the courts work in CA. I'm divorced so I know the deal. I then asked are you really divorced and she said will I be mad if she is. And said yes but she's going to divorce him. Who knows what's the truth. She asked me if I would still date her? She said no allowance just dating and she won't see anyone else. I said you are still married. She asked me if I would be ok with it as long as she only fucks her hisband once a week. WTF? If I'm just dating then I expect both sides are loyal. She seemed really upset and kept texting how sorry she is and how I'm the best guy she ever met. Asked me to please thinknit over.Hahaha, just proves my point, most of these girls are all lying about something. Best not to get to emotionally involved with someone off CL or SA, not that it can't happen, but they will always be hiding something. That said if she wants to date you with no allowance, take it. No reason to pass up free good times with an attractive lady. Just be careful about the husband and don't stop seeing other girls no matter what she says.

Good luck and keep us up to date.

[TheHuntsman]

Don't how things will turn, ill probably have her come to a far hotel from her. Then tell its whom you ran with the allowance I gave you.

She looked so innocent didn't think it was possible. Damn I really do want to bang her though. Hard choice I need for things to cool down then ill pay her escort fee, minus the money I gave her in advance. I won't do that ill pay her the full amount.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d1192d09-ee83-464a-ab92-9d971523aa1b

If any of you guys want to try her.

https://www.eros.com/california/los_angeles/files/4355043.htm?cat=1Shylover I don't get why you still want to see her, unless it's for revenge. I've been robbed before doing this hobby and wanted revenge, but I didn't do it. Using violence against a rob will most likely not turn out well for you.

If you want to see her because you think she is hot and want to fuck her, well then you sir are a fool. Basically you'll have paid her 2 xs to fuck her once. Not worth it.

[Leiterf]

Hahaha, just proves my point, most of these girls are all lying about something. Best not to get to emotionally involved with someone off CL or SA, not that it can't happen, but they will always be hiding something. That said if she wants to date you with no allowance, take it. No reason to pass up free good times with an attractive lady. Just be careful about the husband and don't stop seeing other girls no matter what she says.

Good luck and keep us up to date.I'm pretty much taking your advice. I asked her to tell me the truth if she wants to give up the SB life and she said no she needs the cash to pay bills cause her hubby won't put his full pay check in the bank cause he thinks she will blow the money. Sounds like BS to me. What married man won't take care of the family bills? Guess it's possible. She did say she is planning on divorcing him and won't do him if I say but still wants to do guys from SA. So I told her today I won't date her like she wants. And I won't give her any cash. But if she really wants my D that much I will do her. She said OK. LOL so it's on tomorrow again.

[Leiterf]

I was going to meet the girl this morning. She asked me how long I wanted to spend with her and I said I can do 2 to 3.5 hours. She said she wanted to spend lots of time with me. Remember, she is now down for no allowance because she is totally into me. I was planning on 3.5 hours. I arrived and said so 3.5 hours and she said no, 2. I said oh you are busy now, what happened? She said she has to meet a Sd after me. I was kind of pissed but I agreed to let her still do the SB thing. Anyone dated someone that does these types of things for $$?

[SeaTownGuy]

Looking for some LA for Seattle, Portland or Vancouver trades. Send me a PM.

[Dctator1]

I was going to meet the girl this morning. She asked me how long I wanted to spend with her and I said I can do 2 to 3.5 hours. She said she wanted to spend lots of time with me. Remember, she is now down for no allowance because she is totally into me. I was planning on 3.5 hours. I arrived and said so 3.5 hours and she said no, 2. I said oh you are busy now, what happened? She said she has to meet a Sd after me. I was kind of pissed but I agreed to let her still do the SB thing. Anyone dated someone that does these types of things for $$?Are you looking for a girlfriend right now? She is still married and who knows when she will get a divorce. My advice is the ball is in your court. You can enjoy a no allowance situation and let her meet others (which I would do and I would not get emotional involved with her) or you can end it. Anyway you should not get emotionally evolved with someone you just met off Craigslist. Maybe after a few months or more, but not right away. Just the way you met should be a red flag as to not trust her. You can enjoy some free girlfriend type fun anytime you want and be free to keep seeing other potientials. It's the perfect situation. Even if she says she won't see any mor sd's, there is a good chance in the future she will. Just enjoy the sex for free while you have it. You never know how long it will last. Keep us updated.

[ChiCity]

Hey guys,

Can any of you tell me how SA filters emails and links?

I don't want to put my real photos onto SA. What I would like to do instead is put my photos onto a dropbox folder and send the SB the drop box link.

I think SA is filtering the link though because the SB say they can't click on it. Otherwise I would like to send the SB my email. Do you know if SA filters the emails? If I say contact me at JohnDoe at yahoo.com will this get to the SB's?

The reason I am doing it this way is that sometimes I don't want to send the SB my real photos. If it is someone I am not really interested in, I will send them a dummy photo to test lines and price points.

[FarFarAway]

SultrySaneSexyFit, Newport Beach.

Julianna Annalisa, Long Beach.

I have 'her' #s too.

[FarFarAway]

Looking for some LA for Seattle, Portland or Vancouver trades. Send me a PM.For everyone's benefit, SA isn't really the same as BP, and if you don't want it to suffer the same fate as BP, I'd advise against this practice. Keeping escorts off of SA is the only way to do this, and the more we treat SBs like they are escorts the more trouble we will have. A guy who passes around a girl to other guys is going to get shit from the SB, and I'd especially avoid this if I have a SO. This is a public board, the girls can figure out it's here and read it as well as anyone. We put info on these boards that could enable us to be identified without too much trouble.

Again, as someone who is concerned about my discretion, I wouldn't want a SB passing my info on to other girls, and I think the Golden Rule applies.

[FarFarAway]

Hey guys,

Can any of you tell me how SA filters emails and links?

I don't want to put my real photos onto SA. What I would like to do instead is put my photos onto a dropbox folder and send the SB the drop box link.

I think SA is filtering the link though because the SB say they can't click on it. Otherwise I would like to send the SB my email. Do you know if SA filters the emails? If I say contact me at JohnDoe at yahoo.com will this get to the SB's?

The reason I am doing it this way is that sometimes I don't want to send the SB my real photos. If it is someone I am not really interested in, I will send them a dummy photo to test lines and price points.The best idea is to get off SA as quickly as possible so you can send whatever the hell you want. To text or email or snapchat. I can only take 1 month paid membership at a time, I get too obsessed w / contacting POTs, and if I can get them to message me off the site, they last past the membership.

BTW, Snapchat is a great app to have. I have used it to message w / girls who had phone problems (unpaid bills, lost etc. ,) and were using iPads, and also if you let it check your contacts, it can give you a profile name from SC that the girls may be using on other social media. You can check her out that way, get her real name, etc.

[TheHuntsman]

A few days ago I was talking to a girl on sa and from her behavior it seemed like she might be a pro. I was thinking to see her just for some head on my way home from work. I text her when I'm near my home, since she's local, but she didn't reply. Earlier she mentioned she was with family. So while sitting in a parking lot I jump in sa and browse for girls near me that were love. See a 19 yr old local girl. I send her a straight forward message asking to meet up right now. Surprisingly she agrees. I head down to UCR and pick her up as she was at the library studying. We chill in my car and she gives me head for a nominal fee. She was really nervous. Not the best BJ ever, but a very interesting experience.

[Leiterf]

Are you looking for a girlfriend right now? She is still married and who knows when she will get a GFdivorce. My advice is the ball is in your court. You can enjoy a no allowance situation and let her meet others (which I would do and I would not getv emotional involved with her) or you can end it. Anyway you should not get emotionally evolved with someone you just met off Craigslistt. Maybe after a few months or vibd, but not right away. Just the way you met should be a red flag as to not trust her. You can enjoy some free girlfriend type fun anytime you want and be free to keep seeing other potientials. It's the perfect situation. Even if she says she won't see any mor sd's, there is a good chance in the future she will. Just enjoy the sex for free while you have it. You never know how long it will last. Keep us updated.I wasn't looking for a GF. I didn't meet her on CL, I met her on SA. She said she lied about being married because she really like my appearance and how I talked to her. I'm. I'm not emotionally involved but I do like her as a person. Now that I'm banging her at no charge it's just hard to know she's going to be doing others for cash. I asked her what it is that she wants from me and she said all of me. But she knows it's impossible because she's married and still a SB. But said she wants to date me but knows I won't. Cause I told her I can't have a GF that is married and doing guys for cash.

These SB women do not see what they do as a form of prostitution. I do. Am I wrong? What do you think?

[E1775]

I wasn't looking for a GF. I didn't meet her on CL, I met her on SA. She said she lied about being married because she really like my appearance and how I talked to her. I'm. I'm not emotionally involved but I do like her as a person. Now that I'm banging her at no charge it's just hard to know she's going to be doing others for cash. I asked her what it is that she wants from me and she said all of me. But she knows it's impossible because she's married and still a SB. But said she wants to date me but knows I won't. Cause I told her I can't have a GF that is married and doing guys for cash.

These SB women do not see what they do as a form of prostitution. I do. Am I wrong? What do you think?I can't even. Wow. You hit the jackpot man, stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. You met her on SA, don't expect her to change her life after a couple hours with you. She needs $$. She has a deadbeat husband (believe it or not, there are tons of guys who don't take care of their wives", and unless you're going to take care of her $$ issues by yourself, it's unfair to expect her to suddenly be ok being broke again. Good job setting the tone to that of her chasing you, but you sound like you're definitely looking for something emotional. Maybe a girl you met off SA isn't the best candidate for that. If you're not, you just bagged yourself a cutie who can't become too attached, but still wants to be your girl when you're alone. Society has made it hard for girls to admit they just want to hookup, because they don't like coming off like a **** even though they're doing **** shit LOL. Enjoy the ride for now man. Please. Lot of us would be ecstatic to be in your shoes.

[Venator]

I can't even. Wow. You hit the jackpot man, stop looking a gift horse in the mouth. You met her on SA, don't expect her to change her life after a couple hours with you. She needs $$. She has a deadbeat husband (believe it or not, there are tons of guys who don't take care of their wives", and unless you're going to take care of her $$ issues by yourself, it's unfair to expect her to suddenly be ok being broke again. Good job setting the tone to that of her chasing you, but you sound like you're definitely looking for something emotional. Maybe a girl you met off SA isn't the best candidate for that. If you're not, you just bagged yourself a cutie who can't become too attached, but still wants to be your girl when you're alone. Society has made it hard for girls to admit they just want to hookup, because they don't like coming off like a **** even though they're doing **** shit LOL. Enjoy the ride for now man. Please. Lot of us would be ecstatic to be in your shoes.This!

You scored a cutie that's wants to have some fun with you sans sugar. Enjoy it while you can, like he said unless you're willing to lay down the financial help to meet her needs to keep her exclusive, have a blast. Many blasts! LOL!

[John HandCock]

Hey guys,

Can any of you tell me how SA filters emails and links?

I don't want to put my real photos onto SA. What I would like to do instead is put my photos onto a dropbox folder and send the SB the drop box link.

I think SA is filtering the link though because the SB say they can't click on it. Otherwise I would like to send the SB my email. Do you know if SA filters the emails? If I say contact me at JohnDoe at yahoo.com will this get to the SB's?

The reason I am doing it this way is that sometimes I don't want to send the SB my real photos. If it is someone I am not really interested in, I will send them a dummy photo to test lines and price points.You should have no problem sending your email address kik, snapchat ID to anyone as long as your a paying member. Pic wise put them on the site under hidden and only give access to those you want to. If you don't want to do that then get them to text or any of the number of ways to communicate.

[Falar]

You should have no problem sending your email address kik, snapchat ID to anyone as long as your a paying member. Pic wise put them on the site under hidden and only give access to those you want to. If you don't want to do that then get them to text or any of the number of ways to communicate.If I was him. I would just upload a picture and make it private. I use to do the text and email messages with sending pictures. But I started to talk to women, who wasn't comfortable with that. Now I rather just show the women my private picture right away. And if they are interested we move ahead and it's easier to get the phone number. I prefer not to waste time with countless messages before they feel comfortable. It's too many women on the site to do that with. I would show them the private picture and move on quickly. If they are not interested.

[Leiterf]

My FWB who started out as my SB would like to try a 3 some with me and one lucky guy. If we find the right candidate it's on. Must meet all requirements that we set. If we don't find the right one then we just won't do it. Most likely just a one time thing. But you never know.

Qualifications / Rules:

1) Ethnicity- white.

2) Age. Late 40's and up.

3) You must wear a cover, no exceptions.

4) What you are not allowed to do. No kissing, no hickeys. No fisting.

5) Must provide a one time allowance for her. Negotiable.

About her: Early 30's, Asian, 4'11 98 lbs, b cup. Great in bed. Will do BBBJ, all positions, is willing to do Double P.

I can provide a pic if you meet the above.

Will discuss the details if you message me.

[Dctator1]

A few days ago I was talking to a girl on sa and from her behavior it seemed like she might be a pro. I was thinking to see her just for some head on my way home from work. I text her when I'm near my home, since she's local, but she didn't reply. Earlier she mentioned she was with family. So while sitting in a parking lot I jump in sa and browse for girls near me that were love. See a 19 yr old local girl. I send her a straight forward message asking to meet up right now. Surprisingly she agrees. I head down to UCR and pick her up as she was at the library studying. We chill in my car and she gives me head for a nominal fee. She was really nervous. Not the best BJ ever, but a very interesting experience.Hey Huntsman, does the direct "lets meet now" approach work on SA. I thought SA was more for cultivating a SB over a period of time, not for the quick same day service. Is there something you look for in their profile? I am about to join SA to find a SB, but would love to also use it for a quick same day meet ups if I can. CL is almost impossible now for anything.

Thanks for any advice you have.

[John HandCock]

Hey Huntsman, does the direct "lets meet now" approach work on SA. I thought SA was more for cultivating a SB over a period of time, not for the quick same day service. Is there something you look for in their profile? I am about to join SA to find a SB, but would love to also use it for a quick same day meet ups if I can. CL is almost impossible now for anything.

Thanks for any advice you have.You can find anything from the pro to the everyday girl on sa. There is alot of different definitions for a sb so you can find plenty of the utr / pro providing car services or quick meeting s the same as BP / CL. Lots of yhese girls showing up on sa and some guy s pay more for thue title sb.

[HollywoodGuy]

If I was him. I would just upload a picture and make it private. I use to do the text and email messages with sending pictures. But I started to talk to women, who wasn't comfortable with that. Now I rather just show the women my private picture right away. And if they are interested we move ahead and it's easier to get the phone number. I prefer not to waste time with countless messages before they feel comfortable. It's too many women on the site to do that with. I would show them the private picture and move on quickly. If they are not interested.I do basically the same.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hey Huntsman, does the direct "lets meet now" approach work on SA. I thought SA was more for cultivating a SB over a period of time, not for the quick same day service. Is there something you look for in their profile? I am about to join SA to find a SB, but would love to also use it for a quick same day meet ups if I can. CL is almost impossible now for anything.

Thanks for any advice you have.You get both types of girls. But don't confuse a desperate non-pro with a utr or pro just because she wants to meet asap. Over time you will learn how to separate them out.

[TheHuntsman]

That was my first time trying that. Usually I don't attempt something like that as both parties like to build some sort of trust. When she got out of my car I saw pair of scissors on the passenger seat. I asked her and she said she brought them because she hadn't done something like that before and wasn't sure if I was dangerous.

[DavidTheSancho]

I was definitely disappointed with her body and she def looks better in pics. Her BBJ was lots of spitting and no hands. I would never see her again though. I busted 2 one from BBJ LOL.

She's weird though after the bbj she went into her living room to play with her rabbits. Like literally left me in her bedroom alone for 10 minutes. So I went through her stuff. She's clean, had some paperwork from some local free clinic and birth control pills on her bed.Post or pm her profile if you feel like sending her another customer. Ha.

[TheEngine]

I set up ameeting with a baby tomorrow. This will be my first baby. The problem is that neither of us can host and I do not know where to find a no tell motel. Looking for one some where in between beverly hills and ktown. I will apreciate any suggestions. I like to thank the HollywoodGuy for his guidelines.

[Jdb1911]

I set up ameeting with a baby tomorrow. This will be my first baby. The problem is that neither of us can host and I do not know where to find a no tell motel. Looking for one some where in between beverly hills and ktown. I will apreciate any suggestions. I like to thank the HollywoodGuy for his guidelines.Sea Way Motel, 5961 Venice Blvd, Los Angeles.

It's actually nice. I was shocked. They don't offer hourly rates all the time. It's 40 for the hour plus a 5 dollar remote deposit.

Good luck.

[Geneva Guy]

I have been on and off SA for a couple years. Have 2 SBs that I can see when I want, they don't want to go out, just stay in bed and play.

I got back on SA recently to see what was out there again. I live in the Albany NY area. I was contacted by about 25 women in a week, and set up coffee M&Gs with a couple. I have used a lot of the tips on this board and on the Richmond board to make what I want and can offer very clear. But, recently, I find that some of the POTS, even after the discussion about what I can offer (and they say they understand). Change their mind after either a M&G or a few emails. This includes:

-AA girl who asked me to buy her a car after we had coffee (I'm looking for a 1981 YUGO for her now LOL). Talk about her pic not resembling her in real life. YIKES.

-AA girl who basically invited me over to have sex before we meet (actually I have had 2 of these in the past, they actually were regular girls with their own place looking for sex immediately). And then basically begged me to come over (student needing the $).

-Latina who cursed me cause I said I don't pay for M&G. Just my policy as I was burned in the past by doing this (no money, no honey).

-Latina who wanted to meet for coffee and then at the last minute said "can I bring a friend". Of course the answer was no (cause it was a man friend).

Also had these experiences:

-Contacted by a couple blond / brunette either play together or separately. This intrigues me but I suspect its outside my budget.

-Recently divorced women in their 40's. Meeting one next week who has kept in touch. May be too classy for me hahaha.

So, just asking the board. So you get these girls who "swing for the fences", ask for something totally out of your budget even after you tell them what you can do for gifts and they appear to understand.

In any event, ended up with an AA who warned me that she was 'very very dark" (she said some guys contact her on SA and tell her they would never be interested in a girl as dark as she is. What jerks). HG might like her, not a spinner but nice shape, beautiful color and thick lips. Anyway, took her to hotel today and WOW, she hadn't had sex for awhile and was trying to make up for this. Curiously for a 26 year old, had to give her some "education" but my knees were weak after we finished round 2.

GG.

[Dctator1]

I set up ameeting with a baby tomorrow. This will be my first baby. The problem is that neither of us can host and I do not know where to find a no tell motel. Looking for one some where in between beverly hills and ktown. I will apreciate any suggestions. I like to thank the HollywoodGuy for his guidelines.Lots of great advice in the No-tell section of this forum. Check there if you have time and good luck tomorrow. Let us know how it goes.

[HollywoodGuy]

Fullerton, Chino Hills, Corona, Huntington Beach, Irvine and Anaheim. Mostly all Latinas in these areas. But OMG so many nice ones. Good luck to anyone that has the ability to hit those areas.

[HollywoodGuy]

So another bbw randomly hmu last night and I saw her today. I really needed to see someone today and since she was making it so easy, I said "come on down". Uber is running an awesome special right now. Any ride for 6.99 or a pool for 3.99. That's insane. Good for 20 rides. It should save me about $$, at least. In this girls case I only saved 14 dollars total as she was fairly close by.

Anyway we wasted no time in getting right to it. As I had no desire to bone her, we just did a lot of playing around but it got pretty hot and nasty. I did get to fist her after multiple tries, slowly stretching that sophomore pinay pussy as she screamed in ecstacy. lol.

This UTR did her required hour for a $ and left. A perfect mid-day break after an 8 hour work day.

[HollywoodGuy]

Might see this one (pictured) over the weekend (a girl I dated a few times last year). Got a 2 day stay starting today from a different girl I met 8 months ago on SA. Dated her 3 times and then she said she couldn't see me anymore due to her BF. I told her when that ends, call me. She did.

[Leiterf]

I think I have another one hooked from SB. 29 Latina / Apache in OC with a really nice rack. Afte tats which I'm not into but she's sexy as hell. Wants 3 bills but I talked her into BB. And has a place we can play. We might go the first round Saturday. I will report back with details. And tomorrow I have a 4 hour session with the SB that I don't have to pay.

[HollywoodGuy]

Might see this one (pictured) over the weekend (a girl I dated a few times last year). Got a 2 day stay starting today from a different girl I met 8 months ago on SA. Dated her 3 times and then she said she couldn't see me anymore due to her BF. I told her when that ends, call me. She did.The words I love to hear. My BF never did that ! (and few other things as well). But of course he was only her first and same age. (what do they know). lol

[YellowBull]

Are you guys downplaying your wealth on your profile or telling it how it is? If I'm looking for the negotiable / minimal SB's, what would be a normal "wealth" & income figure? Only reason why I ask is that if I look too cheap, then I'll get no loving but if I'm honest, then the SB's with high expectations come out the woodwork.

[Leiterf]

I think I have another one hooked from SB. 29 Latina / Apache in OC with a really nice rack. Afte tats which I'm not into but she's sexy as hell. Wants 3 bills but I talked her into BB. And has a place we can play. We might go the first round Saturday. I will report back with details. And tomorrow I have a 4 hour session with the SB that I don't have to pay.Saw the above 29 year old yesterday. She is a really nice sweet girl. Her Apt smelled like weed and she drinking wine at 11 am.

We had a nice conversation and then on to kissing, BBBJ, DATY, BBCG, BBMISH and a huge shit across the bow.

Some cuddling and TV watching and off I went.

[FarFarAway]

Are you guys downplaying your wealth on your profile or telling it how it is? If I'm looking for the negotiable / minimal SB's, what would be a normal "wealth" & income figure? Only reason why I ask is that if I look too cheap, then I'll get no loving but if I'm honest, then the SB's with high expectations come out the woodwork.You portray the dilemma accurately. IDK that there is a pat answer to this question. You are right, how you list this is going to affect negotiations. I have champagne taste and am not opposed to paying 2 K / mo for unlimited access to a 10's across the board SB, and I list my accurate #s. PM if you want to know what those are. I also tell them honestly that generating the untraceable cash as someone w / a SO is my big challenge.

Flipside: I just negotiated w / a 20 YO GND coed, it was clear to me she was there for the excitement, and summarized herself at the end of the M&G, said 'I like older guys, I like sex, and I like being told what to do', reflecting my thought that she was not primarily there for the cash. And we discussed nothing about sugar. She asked in later messages about what my past SBs got, and I said 1 K / mo. She was initially fine with that, 'whatever you want', however, we were supposed to go to the FC yesterday, I get a text the day before that she can't make it. I surmise, obviously, that she met someone else she is either more attracted to or offered more. Life's hard. Hmm, writing this made me think - I liked this girl, she was smart - perhaps I should go back to her and say 'I'm no fool, I get what transpired, if it is a matter of the sugar, make me a counter offer'.

All that being said, I"ve been in the bowl a year and certainly messaged with hundreds, and M&G with maybe 20-30. No one has ever brought up explicitly the income or net worth #s on my profile. Now, I also do not allow my profile to be searched for by POTs. That's a precaution I take b/c I have a SO. Every now and then I open it up and see what happens. It drives me crazy - women from all over the world (Phillipines, Europe, Africa) contact me, what time-wasters. It likely is the case they are searching based on the dollar figures on profiles.

[HollywoodGuy]

Saw the above 29 year old yesterday. She is a really nice sweet girl. Her Apt smelled like weed and she drinking wine at 11 am.

We had a nice conversation and then on to kissing, BBBJ, DATY, BBCG, BBMISH and a huge shit across the bow.

Some cuddling and TV watching and off I went.Its amazing how all that good sex can make you overlook a few little things

[HollywoodGuy]

Are you guys downplaying your wealth on your profile or telling it how it is? If I'm looking for the negotiable / minimal SB's, what would be a normal "wealth" & income figure? Only reason why I ask is that if I look too cheap, then I'll get no loving but if I'm honest, then the SB's with high expectations come out the woodwork.No girl really cares how much you are worth, only how much you are willing to spend. They have pretty much all experienced "the rich asshole" in one way or another in their life. Maybe they served one at their waitress job, or maybe it was a braggadocio SD, or whatever. I tell girls I am middle class. End of discussion (if they even ask).

[HollywoodGuy]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8ac47ebb-115b-45d9-9bce-337e0a1f44e1

I usually do $500 for a first meet up. Some people that's asking too much. You can choose what we do, in not picky as long as I'm entertained with a cool convo I'm good (: so let me know if that works for you and we can talk more / meet up (:

[John HandCock]

Are you guys downplaying your wealth on your profile or telling it how it is? If I'm looking for the negotiable / minimal SB's, what would be a normal "wealth" & income figure? Only reason why I ask is that if I look too cheap, then I'll get no loving but if I'm honest, then the SB's with high expectations come out the woodwork.Like HG said most don't care as long as you have what they agree to. Some do look at what you put down and if your trying to save a few dollars when their asking price shouldn't matter to you then you get the label of salt or splenda daddy. If your listing high then 300 and up seems reasonable to them.

[Leiterf]

Its amazing how all that good sex can make you overlook a few little thingsYeah, I probably won't repeat.

[Avocat]

I Just don't think this is a real photo. And $500 in LA is just too much for 90% of the girls. $300, $400 works well for some uber hot girls.


https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/8ac47ebb-115b-45d9-9bce-337e0a1f44e1

I usually do $500 for a first meet up. Some people that's asking too much. You can choose what we do, in not picky as long as I'm entertained with a cool convo I'm good (: so let me know if that works for you and we can talk more / meet up (:

[FarFarAway]

No girl really cares how much you are worth, only how much you are willing to spend. They have pretty much all experienced "the rich asshole" in one way or another in their life. Maybe they served one at their waitress job, or maybe it was a braggadocio SD, or whatever. I tell girls I am middle class. End of discussion (if they even ask).Well, speak for yourself. I have been w / some girls who really are interested in the whole idea of having a daddy that takes interest in their lives and development, and it's not all about the $ I provided. When they are looking to me for advice, they want to know that I'm someone who has been successful so my opinions are good. How successful I am in life (indicated by annual income and net worth) is relevant to this point. You may scoff, but this does really work with me. I spend time talking with them about the decisions they are making in their lives, etc. Since you almost never see your girls more than once, this wouldn't be an amenity offered in your arrangements, but I and other people I know do this. They never had to ask my #s, because they are right there on my profile.

[John HandCock]

Well, speak for yourself. I have been w / some girls who really are interested in the whole idea of having a daddy that takes interest in their lives and development, and it's not all about the $ I provided. When they are looking to me for advice, they want to know that I'm someone who has been successful so my opinions are good. How successful I am in life (indicated by annual income and net worth) is relevant to this point. You may scoff, but this does really work with me. I spend time talking with them about the decisions they are making in their lives, etc. Since you almost never see your girls more than once, this wouldn't be an amenity offered in your arrangements, but I and other people I know do this. They never had to ask my #s, because they are right there on my profile.Numbers like lots of stories can be fabricated to however you want them. If your showing big numbers then they know something is wrong when a sd tries to bargain basement them. If they are happy with the arrangement and feel that they got what they wanted or needed is all that matters to them. If your happy with what was settled on its win win. When either party feels taken advantage of its doomed. If your showing big numbers then you need to be able to walk the walk Of course exceptions to every rule.

[HollywoodGuy]

Well, speak for yourself. I have been w / some girls who really are interested in the whole idea of having a daddy that takes interest in their lives and development, and it's not all about the $ I provided. When they are looking to me for advice, they want to know that I'm someone who has been successful so my opinions are good. How successful I am in life (indicated by annual income and net worth) is relevant to this point. You may scoff, but this does really work with me. I spend time talking with them about the decisions they are making in their lives, etc. Since you almost never see your girls more than once, this wouldn't be an amenity offered in your arrangements, but I and other people I know do this. They never had to ask my #s, because they are right there on my profile.The worth I was refering to was strictly financial. But how do you think I get so many girls for a $ ? In some part its race and age. In some part it has to do with the intangible or percieved worth of the relationship. In some part its the experience I provide with my castle in the sky. And some times its just the bomb sex. Also, I do see many of my girls once or twice, as it takes more than a few to find the right ones. Current length of some of my girls.

ATF - 2.5 years. Over 200 trips to the FC

X (picture a) from this evening - 4 years. Slept over maybe 100 times.

Current Roommate - 2 years.

Churchgirl (now gone) - 9 months - 30 dates.

Fav UTR from the recent past - 9 months - 40 dates.

X asian roommate. Lived together for 2 years. Another 200 trips to the FC.

X Blond (picture b). Lived together for 1.5 years and dated for another 1.5 years off and on.

And too many more to mention. But for many SB's cash is king. Another x of mine that I am still friends with after 9 years just broke up with her current SD when he tried to drop her allowance from 6k a month down to 4k a month.

[HollywoodGuy]

And just an addendum to the last post. The only reason I can have so many LTR's with this number of girls is that they are all overlapping. Over the last 10 years I have usually had about 3 LTR's overlapping simultaneously with a few mid-range girls, while the interviews continue at a rate of maybe one new girl a week. Many times the girls are here 2 or 3 at a time, and many have met many of the others. They are generally grateful to be a part of my world as I do show an enormous amount of interest in their lives, and have the patience and understanding to help them with their real life issues. It is time consuming, but with no wife or traditional GF to sneak around, and no family or friends eating up my time, and no other interest outside of work, this is more than a hobby for me. It's a lifestyle.

They all understand I have to continually interview new girls to make up for the ones that will eventually fade away or be dismissed. And yes, those girls I generally only see one or two times. And no one seems to have a problem with that. At least not enough of one to leave me over it. Do they give me some shit over it from time to time? They do. But its usually just over one particular girl they dislike for one reason or another or they are feeling neglected. But the LTR's all understand I have to make time for everyone so it's not as hectic as it may sound. I am an excellent time manager, get my 50+ hours of work in every week, don't require much sleep, work from home, and have the girls co-operation, without which, none of this could be possible.

Now all of this does make it impossible for me to find the "one". But I don't know if the "one" exists. Like many guys on this site, my interests are too varied, my attention span too short, and my need for attention too great to believe that such a girl even exists. And even if she did, part of what would make her the "one" would be her need / desire to allow me to have other girls.

Various therapists have suggested that I have a problem, have never been in a healthy relationship, may have a sex addiction, and that I should find an appropriately aged GF. All I know is that I do my job, pay my bills, take care of my daughter, keep the house clean, feed, clothe and shelter a few deserving girls from time to time, and try to put a good vibe out into the world. As of the beginning of 2016 I basically cut my overall trips to the FC in half, but I was averaging about 25 trips a month before that. So I hope this gives everyone a better understanding of my outlook on the sugar life and my place in it.

[JohnnyTheWad]

And just an addendum to the last post. The only reason I can have so many LTR's with this number of girls is that they are all overlapping. Over the last 10 years I have usually had about 3 LTR's overlapping simultaneously with a few mid-range girls, while the interviews continue at a rate of maybe one new girl a week. Many times the girls are here 2 or 3 at a time, and many have met many of the others. They are generally grateful to be a part of my world as I do show an enormous amount of interest in their lives, and have the patience and understanding to help them with their real life issues. It is time consuming, but with no wife or traditional GF to sneak around, and no family or friends eating up my time, and no other interest outside of work, this is more than a hobby for me. It's a lifestyle.

They all understand I have to continually interview new girls to make up for the ones that will eventually fade away or be dismissed. And yes, those girls I generally only see one or two times. And no one seems to have a problem with that. At least not enough of one to leave me over it. Do they give me some shit over it from time to time? They do. But its usually just over one particular girl they dislike for one reason or another or they are feeling neglected. But the LTR's all understand I have to make time for everyone so it's not as hectic as it may sound. I am an excellent time manager, get my 50+ hours of work in every week, don't require much sleep, work from home, and have the girls co-operation, without which, none of this could be possible.

Now all of this does make it impossible for me to find the "one". But I don't know if the "one" exists. Like many guys on this site, my interests are too varied, my attention span too short, and my need for attention too great to believe that such a girl even exists. And even if she did, part of what would make her the "one" would be her need / desire to allow me to have other girls.

Various therapists have suggested that I have a problem, have never been in a healthy relationship, may have a sex addiction, and that I should find an appropriately aged GF. All I know is that I do my job, pay my bills, take care of my daughter, keep the house clean, feed, clothe and shelter a few deserving girls from time to time, and try to put a good vibe out into the world. As of the beginning of 2016 I basically cut my overall trips to the FC in half, but I was averaging about 25 trips a month before that. So I hope this gives everyone a better understanding of my outlook on the sugar life and my place in it.HG, aside from the jealousy I feel over your life LOL I think you have it done pat. I enjoy reading of your exploits and continue to learn. Half of my regs started as a SB / SD thing and I could not be happier. Carry on my good man. JTW.

[Jdb1911]

She's on SA, I sent her a message but that was the little head talking. I'm not too sure I want to meet with her even if her allowance was reasonable.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c19f8415-0c3e-415d-996e-752af41f16d5

[HollywoodGuy]

She's on SA, I sent her a message but that was the little head talking. I'm not too sure I want to meet with her even if her allowance was reasonable.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c19f8415-0c3e-415d-996e-752af41f16d5I messaged her just now. Maybe I can find out her rates. Nothing I would be willing to pay. I watched a couple of her videos. She can suck half a dick and seems to like kissing. But she just kinda lays there when she's getting dicked. But as pretty as she is I suppose no one cares

[HollywoodGuy]

Also I just read my intro letter, and it says I have a better than average job. But that's it as far as finances go.

[HollywoodGuy]

There is nothing worse than being in love with some one that can't love you back. This girl could be the "one", if only it wasn't for this, this, this, and that. I am too old to compromise.

[Buster Face]

There is nothing worse than being in love with some one that can't love you back. This girl could be the "one", if only it wasn't for this, this, this, and that. I am too old to compromise."When unrequited love is the most expensive thing on the menu, sometimes you settle for the daily special."

Miranda Kenneally,

Adapt, or regress.

It's probably not love but lust.

[Stolper]

She's on SA, I sent her a message but that was the little head talking. I'm not too sure I want to meet with her even if her allowance was reasonable.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c19f8415-0c3e-415d-996e-752af41f16d5Just make sure you pay up and don't insult her.

http://www.laweekly.com/news/a-young-woman-insulted-at-a-house-party-set-up-a-murder-cops-say-7078020

[Jdb1911]

I had a young sb who went to CSUDH and lived off campus. We have been seeing each other every other week or so but the sex was alright. She always complained that I was too large. Mind you I'm not but whatever. We had a good thing going and last week she asked if I had any friends who wanted to see her because she wrecked her car and only had liability insurance.

I said yes but asked what the incentive was for me? She got mad and said she isn't a *****. Mind you I never treated her like a ***** ever. We chilled fucked a couple of times had a few drinks I paid her 200 every visit and I left.

So today she hits me up and asks me about my friends. Mind you I was just about to bring her info to this board. I said I have been swamped at work but I'll get to it sometime this week. She got mad and hung up. So I text her saying that I would be doing this out of the kindness of my heart and that she needs to chill out or give me a reason to do it faster.

Of course the I'm not a ***** and insults came flying out her mouth. I just blocked her. She may still be going as I type this. I would pass her info but honestly I don't wish her on anybody. Lesson learned on my behalf.

[HollywoodGuy]

I had a young sb who went to CSUDH and lived off campus. We have been seeing each other every other week or so but the sex was alright. She always complained that I was too large. Mind you I'm not but whatever. We had a good thing going and last week she asked if I had any friends who wanted to see her because she wrecked her car and only had liability insurance.

I said yes but asked what the incentive was for me? She got mad and said she isn't a *****. Mind you I never treated her like a ***** ever. We chilled fucked a couple of times had a few drinks I paid her 200 every visit and I left.

So today she hits me up and asks me about my friends. Mind you I was just about to bring her info to this board. I said I have been swamped at work but I'll get to it sometime this week. She got mad and hung up. So I text her saying that I would be doing this out of the kindness of my heart and that she needs to chill out or give me a reason to do it faster.

Of course the I'm not a ***** and insults came flying out her mouth. I just blocked her. She may still be going as I type this. I would pass her info but honestly I don't wish her on anybody. Lesson learned on my behalf.You could always post her profile link as a girl to avoid.

[Jdb1911]

You could always post her profile link as a girl to avoid.She must have deactivated her account some time ago because I can't even find it at all. Personally she had all the signs of somebody with mental illnesses so her outburst was not surprising at all. I have noticed on my short time on SA that the younger girls have issues reconciling being a sugar baby. In essence pay for play but not necessarily in a direct way like on backpage or hx.

I have had 3 girls between 18-21 years old meet up with me, we have a great time and then they turn ghost a couple days later. Then pop up a week after like they never stopped responding to messages. Some have boyfriends who find out what they are doing. One family went through her phone. But the other one told me that after she met with 4 guys in a week she felt like a escort.

[HollywoodGuy]

She must have deactivated her account some time ago because I can't even find it at all. Personally she had all the signs of somebody with mental illnesses so her outburst was not surprising at all. I have noticed on my short time on SA that the younger girls have issues reconciling being a sugar baby. In essence pay for play but not necessarily in a direct way like on backpage or hx.

I have had 3 girls between 18-21 years old meet up with me, we have a great time and then they turn ghost a couple days later. Then pop up a week after like they never stopped responding to messages. Some have boyfriends who find out what they are doing. One family went through her phone. But the other one told me that after she met with 4 guys in a week she felt like a escort.I guess the only thing that comes to mind is kinda what I do to soften the blow. Which is to suggest some light play for a first date. HJ only. About half the time it will go further on the first date. Another half will go further on the second date. But it takes the pressure off and seems more organic. So it gives both parties a chance to think about it. Also its a good excuse to start with a lower allowance amount, which may or may not go up when the girl decides to offer more. My last girl said she was ready to step it up if I was, I told her sorry, a $ is all I pay regardless. So she decided she wants another date anyway, but with out the overnite. But I have been turned down, and then I just stop seeing them. Hope this helps.

[Jdb1911]

I guess the only thing that comes to mind is kinda what I do to soften the blow. Which is to suggest some light play for a first date. HJ only. About half the time it will go further on the first date. Another half will go further on the second date. But it takes the pressure off and seems more organic. So it gives both parties a chance to think about it. Also its a good excuse to start with a lower allowance amount, which may or may not go up when the girl decides to offer more. My last girl said she was ready to step it up if I was, I told her sorry, a $ is all I pay regardless. So she decided she wants another date anyway, but with out the overnite. But I have been turned down, and then I just stop seeing them. Hope this helps.You know I actually started taking your approach and I'm not sure it's working. After talking to my Filipina about it she told me that when she got on the site it was overwhelming. SD promising 3-500 to meet and then showing up with 100. One guy stole money from her when she was in the bathroom washing up. He literally paid her then took it back. What an asshole.

So the girls start to feel like regular street walkers. And they become hardened. I don't know who to blame. The fake sd are definitely to blame but these girls get in over their head. Dating 3-5 at a time and then it hits them that they are what they didn't want to become.

I stopped talking to sb's under 21 years old for that reason and I let all the ones I didn't like above a surface level go. Right now I really only have 2. But a lot of these chicks get used to the money and text me asking to meet again and even lowering their allowance to try and convince me to hang out.

I'm going to let my month run out and then I'm taking a break from SA.

[HollywoodGuy]

I broke the cardinal rule and sent a girl an advance to come see me. Only sent a twenty for transportation. Of course she went MIA. A good twenty dollar lesson.

[John HandCock]

I had a young sb who went to CSUDH and lived off campus. We have been seeing each other every other week or so but the sex was alright. She always complained that I was too large. Mind you I'm not but whatever. We had a good thing going and last week she asked if I had any friends who wanted to see her because she wrecked her car and only had liability insurance.

I said yes but asked what the incentive was for me? She got mad and said she isn't a *****. Mind you I never treated her like a ***** ever. We chilled fucked a couple of times had a few drinks I paid her 200 every visit and I left.

So today she hits me up and asks me about my friends. Mind you I was just about to bring her info to this board. I said I have been swamped at work but I'll get to it sometime this week. She got mad and hung up. So I text her saying that I would be doing this out of the kindness of my heart and that she needs to chill out or give me a reason to do it faster.

Of course the I'm not a ***** and insults came flying out her mouth. I just blocked her. She may still be going as I type this. I would pass her info but honestly I don't wish her on anybody. Lesson learned on my behalf.She will do fine on her own, in my book she's utr. Guys put up with alot of crap for pussy so from your post other than being pissed at you for no itroductions guys will take a chance. It sounds like you really didn't want to share her but that's your call. She will find all the help she needs from someone else.

[Dctator1]

I broke the cardinal rule and sent a girl an advance to come see me. Only sent a twenty for transportation. Of course she went MIA. A good twenty dollar lesson.Sorry to hear this. Even the best of us will get bitten every so often. At least it was only a twenty. Any chance you can post some info and picture so more of us don't fall into her web.

[Dctator1]

I guess the only thing that comes to mind is kinda what I do to soften the blow. Which is to suggest some light play for a first date. HJ only. About half the time it will go further on the first date. Another half will go further on the second date. But it takes the pressure off and seems more organic. So it gives both parties a chance to think about it. Also its a good excuse to start with a lower allowance amount, which may or may not go up when the girl decides to offer more. My last girl said she was ready to step it up if I was, I told her sorry, a $ is all I pay regardless. So she decided she wants another date anyway, but with out the overnite. But I have been turned down, and then I just stop seeing them. Hope this helps.You are so right about offering light play to start. Especially if they are new to the hobby. Gives them a chance to get comfortable with the situation and what they are about to get into. Question, do you offer $ no matter what date it is. Or do you have a scale depending on what you have agreed to for the visit?

[HollywoodGuy]

Sorry to hear this. Even the best of us will get bitten every so often. At least it was only a twenty. Any chance you can post some info and picture so more of us don't fall into her web.PM for that info. I think she was 21 AA central LA. Multiple reds flags.

[HollywoodGuy]

She's on SA, I sent her a message but that was the little head talking. I'm not too sure I want to meet with her even if her allowance was reasonable.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c19f8415-0c3e-415d-996e-752af41f16d5Maya bijou: a day ago.
You are very handsome if you google maya bijou on google and watch a video you'll see why I am here LOL.

ME: a day ago.
Oh wow. Ok. Didn't know you were an actress. Don't really keep up with that. You're very cute, but being that you have some experience, I guess I have to ask how much it would be to get a date with you.

Maya bijou: about 2 hours ago.
800 per meet?

[Jdb1911]

She will do fine on her own, in my book she's utr. Guys put up with alot of crap for pussy so from your post other than being pissed at you for no itroductions guys will take a chance. It sounds like you really didn't want to share her but that's your call. She will find all the help she needs from someone else.I actually had every intention on sharing her with people who have shared with me on this board. We are talking less than 2 days from the initial referral conversation with her to her asking about my friends. I'm on this board in spurts. Sometimes 2-3 days in a row and then another month or two off.

I'm pretty sure she will get all the help but truth be told she offered a limited menu could only meet between 9 am and 530 pm because she worked from 7 pm until 2 am at a bar. Prob not a strip club because she was not fat but not fit. I guess semi chubby with big boobs and no butt. And she went home to San Diego every weekend from Friday afternoon to Sunday night. I could go on and on aboutbher and her weird tendencies. Like after we fucked she would send me a text saying God bless you with a bible verse. She definitely had signs of mental illness. I did people on this board a favor but if you want her cell pm me and you deal with her.

[HollywoodGuy]

Seismic shift in the landscape, as of today. My X (pictured) and I are are back together and she has moved in. We are officially calling each other BF & GF. My roommate and her get along just fine, my roommate is in her own room and has her own bathroom. The new little girl has been given permission to come over and hang out by both girls. And my X says I can date a few of my random girls as long as she is at work. I know it all sounds TGTBT, but lets see how it all plays out in the coming weeks and months.

[JohnnyTheWad]

Seismic shift in the landscape, as of today. My X (pictured) and I are are back together and she has moved in. We are officially calling each other BF & GF. My roommate and her get along just fine, my roommate is in her own room and has her own bathroom. The new little girl has been given permission to come over and hang out by both girls. And my X says I can date a few of my random girls as long as she is at work. I know it all sounds TGTBT, but lets see how it all plays out in the coming weeks and months.HG, you are living the dream brother LOL.

[ScConnoisseur3]

I had a SB deal with a AA girl for the last three months or so but she got too comfortable and lazy in the FC so now I'm back to hitting up BP. Like others far wiser than I have advised always be cultivating fresh pots cause you never know when things might go south. I lulled myself into believing this could last for awhile but it didn't. Lesson learned.

[HollywoodGuy]

I had to tell this girl (pictured), who I just started dating again that I now have a live in GF. She was not happy... at all. I waited 6 months for her to breakup with her BF. After our overnite last week we both figured we were on (to some degree), and that we would start to see each other maybe once a week. She was what I call a hangout girl. Admittedly a lot of the girls I see come over for an hour, get their $ and zoom out of here. Strangely or not so strangely they are usually the most skilled in the FC.

The hangout girls like to come over and stay for like 3 to 5 hours. They want to chill, converse, laugh, maybe eat dinner, and of course hit the FC (but there is more of a civi dating quality to it). More like a pretend GF or a FWB. The hour girls can be UTR but many times they are just busy co-eds. Anyway, for the moment, this girl is miffed.

[HollywoodGuy]

I been waiting months to meet this dark skinned beauty. She lives very far away but happened to be in my hood today. What a shame.

[HollywoodGuy]

Having a live in GF costs more than having some random SB's. Today she told me I could date while she was at work, but it just seemed like too much trouble for the ones that were available to me. Not to mention the $, so I passed on that idea. I am not sure what I am going to do going forward. For sure I will see my super spinner a few times a month. She gets me the hottest of the girls I know. My ATF posted a pic of her and her RT BF, I was surprised that I even cared, but I did.

[TheEngine]

This baby agree to meet last Friday around 1 AM. I brought her to my place where we talk for a bit. Then she change to a nice courset and garter set. She did a nice BBBJ. She almost got me to finish. Then we move onto the bedroom for some fun. Cbs. We started in mish than move to doggy than cg. More BBBJ doggy and rcg. Finally I cim. Whike fucking her I had my fingers up her ass. Afterwards we cuddle for about another hour. I drop her off and tokd me that next time I will get to fuck her in the ass. Damage is $$ 5 per meet. I hope I got the allowance right.

[Jdb1911]

This baby agree to meet last Friday around 1 AM. I brought her to my place where we talk for a bit. Then she change to a nice courset and garter set. She did a nice BBBJ. She almost got me to finish. Then we move onto the bedroom for some fun. Cbs. We started in mish than move to doggy than cg. More BBBJ doggy and rcg. Finally I cim. Whike fucking her I had my fingers up her ass. Afterwards we cuddle for about another hour. I drop her off and tokd me that next time I will get to fuck her in the ass. Damage is $$ 5 per meet. I hope I got the allowance right.Congrats on your first SB. I have a love hate affair with that site. The girls are too flaky. But I have had some great times in the past 3 months. In fact one SB doesn't even take my money. We go out to eat laugh joke and back to her place. She goes to USC and her parents are stacked. She genuinely likes older men has a young boyfriend and I'm sure she has a few other daddies because her sex drive is amazing LOL.

[HollywoodGuy]

This baby agree to meet last Friday around 1 AM. I brought her to my place where we talk for a bit. Then she change to a nice courset and garter set. She did a nice BBBJ. She almost got me to finish. Then we move onto the bedroom for some fun. Cbs. We started in mish than move to doggy than cg. More BBBJ doggy and rcg. Finally I cim. Whike fucking her I had my fingers up her ass. Afterwards we cuddle for about another hour. I drop her off and tokd me that next time I will get to fuck her in the ass. Damage is $$ 5 per meet. I hope I got the allowance right.If it's right for your budget, then it's right. Or like we say in the advertising world. "Find the (fill in the words) that's Right for You!

[TheEngine]

Congrats on your first SB. I have a love hate affair with that site. The girls are too flaky. But I have had some great times in the past 3 months. In fact one SB doesn't even take my money. We go out to eat laugh joke and back to her place. She goes to USC and her parents are stacked. She genuinely likes older men has a young boyfriend and I'm sure she has a few other daddies because her sex drive is amazing LOL.Sounds like the type of girl I need to find. I like high sex drive girls.

[TheEngine]

Congrats on your first SB. I have a love hate affair with that site. The girls are too flaky. But I have had some great times in the past 3 months. In fact one SB doesn't even take my money. We go out to eat laugh joke and back to her place. She goes to USC and her parents are stacked. She genuinely likes older men has a young boyfriend and I'm sure she has a few other daddies because her sex drive is amazing LOL.I hear you. I have had the same isue. I almost gave up until I gave tgis girl a chance. Glad I did. Just need to find a wilder and high sex drive girl.

[Ferrrets]

Been reading this thread for a while and appreciate all the helpful posts. Decided to take the plunge and upgraded today. Had a couple of nice email exchanges. This one girl blocked me though after I initially offered $300 per meet LOL. I like asians so maybe that's to be expected. I'll let you guys know if my luck changes.

[Jdb1911]

Been reading this thread for a while and appreciate all the helpful posts. Decided to take the plunge and upgraded today. Had a couple of nice email exchanges. This one girl blocked me though after I initially offered $300 per meet LOL. I like asians so maybe that's to be expected. I'll let you guys know if my luck changes.Honestly don't worry about the block. She did you a favor. Just in my short time I have found my best SB's are within the 200-300 range. I'd did meet up with this beautiful mixed Asian girl. Cambodian and Thai. I gave her 400 for the meet and after the date went back to her place and sex was such a dud. And she knew it. I was pleasant but the next day we had small talk and we never talked again. She sends me texts asking to hang but she's more arm candy if you want I make people stare at you.

Stick to your guns and budget and you'll get more than enough girls to say yes to your allowance.

[TheEngine]

So you was talking to this baby for about 2 weeks or more. Finally we are able to meet. We were supposed to meet just for lunch and to see if we had any chemistry. She decide thay she eathee meet me at my place just to talk since it was to hot to go out. Once she gets to my place we talk discus what we both want. Later she sugest we go to the bedroom and see how our chemistry is. We get to the bed she imidiately starts DFK. I start to play with her kitty and reveal her nice dds. Pierce nipples by the way. Put the cover on and we go for over an hour. Then she suddenly remember she had an apointment with family. Got dress and left. I text her and she replies for a brief second and then stops so I don't know what's going on.

[HollywoodGuy]

So you was talking to this baby for about 2 weeks or more. Finally we are able to meet. We were supposed to meet just for lunch and to see if we had any chemistry. She decide thay she eathee meet me at my place just to talk since it was to hot to go out. Once she gets to my place we talk discus what we both want. Later she sugest we go to the bedroom and see how our chemistry is. We get to the bed she imidiately starts DFK. I start to play with her kitty and reveal her nice dds. Pierce nipples by the way. Put the cover on and we go for over an hour. Then she suddenly remember she had an apointment with family. Got dress and left. I text her and she replies for a brief second and then stops so I don't know what's going on.Nothing to worry about. She's busy but will get back to you.

[TheEngine]

So baby number 2 does not seem to meet up again. She was not the greatest in bed so I'm om with loosing her. Well I found a new baby to replace this one. I think I hit the jackpot. This 19 year redhead (looks okder than she is) is a great laid. She likes talking dirty and calling her ***** ***** **** pretty much what ever you can think off. Small breast but nice pink nipples (pierce). She does have some tattoos but they are not notisable. So we meet up last night around 11. We talk very shortly before she start to rub jr. She startded with a BJ. (Needs to improve). After a few minutes I started to finger her and move for some daty. A few minutes of daty she begings to ask me to fuck her. So I oblidge. We started BBFS in mish then move to doggy flat doggy cw doggy againg then cw. We were at for about 45. The whole time I was talking dirty amd she was begging me finish inside. After 45 minutes she started to get frustrated because I had not cum. I mean I am the engine for a reason. She beggan to HJ and BJ. And I could see she was really getting down because she had being abke to make me finish. I than turn her over and fuck her from behind for another 20 minutes. I was giving it to her like a jackrabbit. She got tire and gave me another by where I came on her body since she does not like cim. Afterwards we lay down talk. Actually got know each other. 2. 5 to 3 hours was our meeting. She wanted to stay latter but had to wake up by 6 so she decided to leave. Probably one of the best girls I ever had. If you guys have ever een woth nana. Thid girl has the same amount of energy. Her kissing was pretty much peks. Until we said goodbye is when we had a brief dfk. I think she will open up more once we get confertable. I am happy that my old baby number 2 didn't want to meet because tgis replacement is my go to baby now.

[FarFarAway]

So baby number 2 does not seem to meet up again. She was not the greatest in bed so I'm om with loosing her. Well I found a new baby to replace this one. I think I hit the jackpot. This 19 year redhead (looks okder than she is) is a great laid. She likes talking dirty and calling her ***** ***** **** pretty much what ever you can think off. Small breast but nice pink nipples (pierce). She does have some tattoos but they are not notisable. So we meet up last night around 11. We talk very shortly before she start to rub jr. She startded with a BJ. (Needs to improve). After a few minutes I started to finger her and move for some daty. A few minutes of daty she begings to ask me to fuck her. So I oblidge. We started BBFS in mish then move to doggy flat doggy cw doggy againg then cw. We were at for about 45. The whole time I was talking dirty amd she was begging me finish inside. After 45 minutes she started to get frustrated because I had not cum. I mean I am the engine for a reason. She beggan to HJ and BJ. And I could see she was really getting down because she had being abke to make me finish. I than turn her over and fuck her from behind for another 20 minutes. I was giving it to her like a jackrabbit. She got tire and gave me another by where I came on her body since she does not like cim. Afterwards we lay down talk. Actually got know each other. 2. 5 to 3 hours was our meeting. She wanted to stay latter but had to wake up by 6 so she decided to leave. Probably one of the best girls I ever had. If you guys have ever een woth nana. Thid girl has the same amount of energy. Her kissing was pretty much peks. Until we said goodbye is when we had a brief dfk. I think she will open up more once we get confertable. I am happy that my old baby number 2 didn't want to meet because tgis replacement is my go to baby now.Any chance you can run this through a modern invention, spellcheck, before posting?

[HollywoodGuy]

UTR on the prowl.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/40105241-8d4a-44de-afd4-ac47d71a96fe

If you like them young and petite and latina. No need for me to respond. Got a full house these days. The most settled down I have been in a while. The roommate, live-in GF and new little girl are all copacetic.

[TheEngine]

Any chance you can run this through a modern invention, spellcheck, before posting?Sorry. I type all that on my phone.

[Venator]

So I got a text from the first girl I had arrangement with. I hit her up on Snapchat seeing how she's doing and hoping she's doing well, a day later she texts me back and it was a helluva message. She tells me she's doing good with her job and she has a man but here's where it gets interesting. She tells me that he's not doing the "job" for her and how she misses how I made her liver quiver and how she misses me along with a certain part of me LOL! Long story short, she says to hit her up because she needs to get done right and doesn't even want any allowance. Goes to show how treating a woman like a lady and with respect and being a gentlemen can do lol! Good times!!!

[Latex]

And just an addendum to the last post. The only reason I can have so many LTR's with this number of girls is that they are all overlapping. Over the last 10 years I have usually had about 3 LTR's overlapping simultaneously with a few mid-range girls, while the interviews continue at a rate of maybe one new girl a week. Many times the girls are here 2 or 3 at a time, and many have met many of the others. They are generally grateful to be a part of my world as I do show an enormous amount of interest in their lives, and have the patience and understanding to help them with their real life issues. It is time consuming, but with no wife or traditional GF to sneak around, and no family or friends eating up my time, and no other interest outside of work, this is more than a hobby for me. It's a lifestyle.

They all understand I have to continually interview new girls to make up for the ones that will eventually fade away or be dismissed. And yes, those girls I generally only see one or two times. And no one seems to have a problem with that. At least not enough of one to leave me over it. Do they give me some shit over it from time to time? They do. But its usually just over one particular girl they dislike for one reason or another or they are feeling neglected. But the LTR's all understand I have to make time for everyone so it's not as hectic as it may sound. I am an excellent time manager, get my 50+ hours of work in every week, don't require much sleep, work from home, and have the girls co-operation, without which, none of this could be possible.

Now all of this does make it impossible for me to find the "one". But I don't know if the "one" exists. Like many guys on this site, my interests are too varied, my attention span too short, and my need for attention too great to believe that such a girl even exists. And even if she did, part of what would make her the "one" would be her need / desire to allow me to have other girls.

Various therapists have suggested that I have a problem, have never been in a healthy relationship, may have a sex addiction, and that I should find an appropriately aged GF. All I know is that I do my job, pay my bills, take care of my daughter, keep the house clean, feed, clothe and shelter a few deserving girls from time to time, and try to put a good vibe out into the world. As of the beginning of 2016 I basically cut my overall trips to the FC in half, but I was averaging about 25 trips a month before that. So I hope this gives everyone a better understanding of my outlook on the sugar life and my place in it.HWG,

I find your trials, tribulations, exploits, and adventures interesting to read. Just curious to ask, with so many trips to the FC how have you managed to dodge the various STDs? The target group you are engaging with generally has a higher than average rate of contraction.

Latex.

[HollywoodGuy]

HWG,

I find your trials, tribulations, exploits, and adventures interesting to read. Just curious to ask, with so many trips to the FC how have you managed to dodge the various STDs? The target group you are engaging with generally has a higher than average rate of contraction.

Latex.I used to go bare. Now I use condoms.

A real UTR beauty for $$, won't budge on the price. So I passed.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f1c84428-2b13-9caa-06de-f93d1adead63

[Madaboutmax]

I got a similar text from a girl I had not been with in almost two years. She has a live in boyfriend now that hasn't been able to satisfy her. She is very submissive and doesn't like having to tell him what to do.

She told she missed our time together and that my dominance just comes naturally.

She agreed to come over yesterday. We spent 3 hours together and went 3 rounds. She orgasmed many times. Can't say how many. No allowance and she text me again this morning asking if we can do it again soon. I'm almost 30 years older than her.

Don't underestimate the value of experience! LOL.


So I got a text from the first girl I had arrangement with. I hit her up on Snapchat seeing how she's doing and hoping she's doing well, a day later she texts me back and it was a helluva message. She tells me she's doing good with her job and she has a man but here's where it gets interesting. She tells me that he's not doing the "job" for her and how she misses how I made her liver quiver and how she misses me along with a certain part of me LOL! Long story short, she says to hit her up because she needs to get done right and doesn't even want any allowance. Goes to show how treating a woman like a lady and with respect and being a gentlemen can do lol! Good times!!!

[HollywoodGuy]

I got a similar text from a girl I had not been with in almost two years. She has a live in boyfriend now that hasn't been able to satisfy her. She is very submissive and doesn't like having to tell him what to do.

She told she missed our time together and that my dominance just comes naturally.

She agreed to come over yesterday. We spent 3 hours together and went 3 rounds. She orgasmed many times. Can't say how many. No allowance and she text me again this morning asking if we can do it again soon. I'm almost 30 years older than her.

Don't underestimate the value of experience! LOL.One of the perks of sugaring. Over the years some girls will stay in touch.

[HollywoodGuy]

One of the perks of sugaring. Over the years some girls will stay in touch.Too much estrogen in my pad lately since my GF moved in. Oh well. It will sort it self out somehow.

[HollywoodGuy]

I managed to see my new little girl today while both my roommate and GF were at some holiday BBQ's. Except for a little sugar I gave her when we first met, there hasn't been any since. I just pay for her uber or any food we may eat. And I don't see that changing for any reason. We have talked about it and at this point she is just happy to have me in her life.

I finally told my ATF that I have my X GF living here and that's why I can't see her for the time being. She was less than thrilled to say the least. But trying to schedule her in at this point would be close to impossible with her demanding schedule of work, school and parenting. Once my GF gets a job I am sure some opportunities will open up, but until then I see no chance of that happening. Also my ATF and GF basically hate each other because they both think I am being played. Also my ATF is from the hood and my GF is not. Another bone of contention.

The only other girls I have any commitment to are my super spinner and this girl I waited months for, to break up with her BF. I told my GF about both of them. She wasn't too happy but there is no way I would miss an opportunity to see my super spinner (who has been MIA for like 3 weeks). The other girl who is smitten is just patiently waiting on the sidelines for now. Here is a pic she sent me today. All 99 lbs of her.

Plus I have about a dozen highly qualified POTS. Its a crying shame I can't really see any of them at this time. Sadly my time time and funds are at a bare minimum.

[The Tall Man]

I managed to see my new little girl today while both my roommate and GF were at some holiday BBQ's. Except for a little sugar I gave her when we first met, there hasn't been any since. I just pay for her uber or any food we may eat. And I don't see that changing for any reason. We have talked about it and at this point she is just happy to have me in her life.

I finally told my ATF that I have my X GF living here and that's why I can't see her for the time being. She was less than thrilled to say the least. But trying to schedule her in at this point would be close to impossible with her demanding schedule of work, school and parenting. Once my GF gets a job I am sure some opportunities will open up, but until then I see no chance of that happening. Also my ATF and GF basically hate each other because they both think I am being played. Also my ATF is from the hood and my GF is not. Another bone of contention.

The only other girls I have any commitment to are my super spinner and this girl I waited months for, to break up with her BF. I told my GF about both of them. She wasn't too happy but there is no way I would miss an opportunity to see my super spinner (who has been MIA for like 3 weeks). The other girl who is smitten is just patiently waiting on the sidelines for now. Here is a pic she sent me today. All 99 lbs of her.

Plus I have about a dozen highly qualified POTS. Its a crying shame I can't really see any of them at this time. Sadly my time time and funds are at a bare minimum.We have very similar tastes in our girls, and I too am strapped for cash at the moment otherwise I have a number of girls in the making including a new 19 yo black 5'-8" spinner that I added to my rotation last week.

Hell I don't know why but when my wallet and life circumstances are perfect right now but I have less opportunities, now being a little strapped for cash and I am getting contacts and meet ups weekly, go figure.

TTM.

[HollywoodGuy]

We have very similar tastes in our girls, and I too am strapped for cash at the moment otherwise I have a number of girls in the making including a new 19 yo black 5'-8" spinner that I added to my rotation last week.

Hell I don't know why but when my wallet and life circumstances are perfect right now but I have less opportunities, now being a little strapped for cash and I am getting contacts and meet ups weekly, go figure.

TTM.All I know is that it is very frustrating at the moment. I am trying to be grateful for my GF and make the best of it. As an entrepreneur that admittedly is and has been pretty irresponsible with my funds I just have to wait for the next financial opportunity to take hold before I can make any moves.

[Large Ess]

Someone on here was talking about success on F*TL**E but as I look through I am not finding the posts. Would love to get some more info from you. I have been using SA to great success and finding a lot of the young women are naturally submissive and really get turned on by light to medium BD. I thought why not tap another source of participants and have joined but its overwhelm as there are so many different clubs and areas. Any help would be appreciated. I have recently contacted a DOM to play with myself and one of my SB's. Have fantasies of her and I teasing and spanking my SB and making her knees quake, her eyes roll and her P*why pour.

[John HandCock]

Someone on here was talking about success on F*TL**E but as I look through I am not finding the posts. Would love to get some more info from you. I have been using SA to great success and finding a lot of the young women are naturally submissive and really get turned on by light to medium BD. I thought why not tap another source of participants and have joined but its overwhelm as there are so many different clubs and areas. Any help would be appreciated. I have recently contacted a DOM to play with myself and one of my SB's. Have fantasies of her and I teasing and spanking my SB and making her knees quake, her eyes roll and her P*why pour.Your best option is to join one of the groups close to ya and make a few meetings to get known and in touch. For some reason that site started a sb thread and lots of the females complain about the cons going on. Without joining and going to meetings to get contacts its going to be tough flying solo. They do have professional doms that charge for their services if that's what your looking for.

[Large Ess]

Your best option is to join one of the groups close to ya and make a few meetings to get known and in touch. For some reason that site started a sb thread and lots of the females complain about the cons going on. Without joining and going to meetings to get contacts its going to be tough flying solo. They do have professional doms that charge for their services if that's what your looking for.Thanks for the advice. I do have a SB that is into exploring a bit of bondage and spanking. That may be route I will have to take. I'm not particularly attractive to most women on those sights through I actually have skills that once they know about would be willing to stick around. Had an older SA woman who's primary reason for hooking up was the $ until I went down on her. Then she was texting me often and didn't care too much about the reward! Ha! Unfortunately, she was pretty unpredictable in terms of behavior and I didn't want her in my place, so I told her I had found someone that wanted to be monogamous. Too bad, she was a great **ck and has incredible t**s for her age. Better than many 18 year olds.

[HollywoodGuy]

Someone on here was talking about success on F*TL**E but as I look through I am not finding the posts. Would love to get some more info from you. I have been using SA to great success and finding a lot of the young women are naturally submissive and really get turned on by light to medium BD. I thought why not tap another source of participants and have joined but its overwhelm as there are so many different clubs and areas. Any help would be appreciated. I have recently contacted a DOM to play with myself and one of my SB's. Have fantasies of her and I teasing and spanking my SB and making her knees quake, her eyes roll and her P*why pour.The subs that contacted me when I went on that site were not very attractive and all had GPS. So I quickly gave up.

[John HandCock]

The subs that contacted me when I went on that site were not very attractive and all had GPS. So I quickly gave up.If your trying to do the the sb / sd on that site the biggest part will white / bbw girls looking for an online sd. It was a stupid idea to incorporate that into the site. If your trying to develop a civy dom / sub relationship then you have to do the time and work plus get kniwn in the fet life community. I saw very few women of color members on the site. And as with sa the last time I visted the site it had started attracting the professional working girls especially in the sb / sd section.

[HollywoodGuy]

If your trying to do the the sb / sd on that site the biggest part will white / bbw girls looking for an online sd. It was a stupid idea to incorporate that into the site. If your trying to develop a civy dom / sub relationship then you have to do the time and work plus get kniwn in the fet life community. I saw very few women of color members on the site. And as with sa the last time I visted the site it had started attracting the professional working girls especially in the sb / sd section.Anyway I gave up, and am not going back, and yes they were all white girls. Also I let my SA membership lapse. It's like going through withdrawal. But I have to face the facts that I have to hang with the girls I know and that's it. And I am dropping most of them pretty fast. I have to simplify my life these days. No time for the SB drama. I will chime in here and there, but there will be no new conquests for the time being.

[Large Ess]

If your trying to do the the sb / sd on that site the biggest part will white / bbw girls looking for an online sd. It was a stupid idea to incorporate that into the site. If your trying to develop a civy dom / sub relationship then you have to do the time and work plus get kniwn in the fet life community. I saw very few women of color members on the site. And as with sa the last time I visted the site it had started attracting the professional working girls especially in the sb / sd section.Yes, I am finding that out quickly. At the moment, I don't have the funds to create ore SB's so it may be back to HX for some quick spinner fixes but even there it's difficult to find what I like. What I like by the way are all the girls HG has as SB's LOL.

[Leiterf]

So after a month of being on SA, I had tried 3 girls. One of them I reported wanted to bang me for free. Sounds perfect right?

After I started seeing her for free she told me she was married with two kids but wants a divorce. She told me she wants no one but me. At our second meeting we were supposed to go for 4 hours. When we get to the hotel she says only two hours. I asked why but she didn't want to say at first. Then she says she told a SD who she's met before that she would meet him. I was pissed cause she said she wasn't going to do that again. So I did her for two hours. I dropped her off and he picked her up 15 min after me and this older man banged her for two hours at another hotel. After a month of seeing her she then tells me she actually has three kids. It was like one lie after another. She kept telling me she only wants me and was going to divorce. But she would still let the husband grope her. Then my ex came into town and I got back together with her. No drama and she's not in that lifestyle.

I told her I'm done and I'm back with her but she still texts me every day. She's a bit crazy. I told her I'd still be her friend but I think I should block her.

Thoughts?

[Rouleur]

So after a month of being on SA, I had tried 3 girls. One of them I reported wanted to bang me for free. Sounds perfect right?

After I started seeing her for free she told me she was married with two kids but wants a divorce. She told me she wants no one but me. At our second meeting we were supposed to go for 4 hours. When we get to the hotel she says only two hours. I asked why but she didn't want to say at first. Then she says she told a SD who she's met before that she would meet him. I was pissed cause she said she wasn't going to do that again. So I did her for two hours. I dropped her off and he picked her up 15 min after me and this older man banged her for two hours at another hotel. After a month of seeing her she then tells me she actually has three kids. It was like one lie after another. She kept telling me she only wants me and was going to divorce. But she would still let the husband grope her. Then my ex came into town and I got back together with her. No drama and she's not in that lifestyle.

I told her I'm done and I'm back with her but she still texts me every day. She's a bit crazy. I told her I'd still be her friend but I think I should block her.

Thoughts?I would cut off completely. It is better for both parties. She won't have the fantasy that, even though you are still friends, you may want to go back to a full relationship.

[Leiterf]

I would cut off completely. It is better for both parties. She won't have the fantasy that, even though you are still friends, you may want to go back to a full relationship.Good advice. I just have a hard time being too cold. She only has my cell. Should I just block her?

[Leronardo]

Test run trying to meet up someone from this site. Met the first date at Starbucks. Going well till her friends car broke down. (maybe) exit stage left gracefully. Still a possibility with this one. Second date was going well till she slammed her finger on the car door. HaHa WTF Trying the high volume contact approach. Seem to be working but cracks me up the notion I would give someone money just because I might chat with you. The adventure to continued. Oh ya almost got killed with a car running a stop sign on the second date. Maybe someone's trying to tell me something.

[Leiterf]

Test run trying to meet up someone from this site. Met the first date at Starbucks. Going well till her friends car broke down. (maybe) exit stage left gracefully. Still a possibility with this one. Second date was going well till she slammed her finger on the car door. HaHa WTF Trying the high volume contact approach. Seem to be working but cracks me up the notion I would give someone money just because I might chat with you. The adventure to continued. Oh ya almost got killed with a car running a stop sign on the second date. Maybe someone's trying to tell me something.Just out of curious, what city did you meet her in? A SB I met also had me meet her at Starbucks. Could be common but I was just seeing if it's the same chick.

[HollywoodGuy]

Test run trying to meet up someone from this site. Met the first date at Starbucks. Going well till her friends car broke down. (maybe) exit stage left gracefully. Still a possibility with this one. Second date was going well till she slammed her finger on the car door. HaHa WTF Trying the high volume contact approach. Seem to be working but cracks me up the notion I would give someone money just because I might chat with you. The adventure to continued. Oh ya almost got killed with a car running a stop sign on the second date. Maybe someone's trying to tell me something.On the way to my first SB date ever (at Kanters of all places), I was so nervous I rear ended a Russian limo driver going north on La Cienega coming up on Wilshire. I gave him my ID and then jetted out of there so as not to miss the date. I ended up living with that girl for a year.

[Dorq01]

On the way to my first SB date ever (at Kanters of all places), I was so nervous I rear ended a Russian limo driver going north on La Cienega coming up on Wilshire. I gave him my ID and then jetted out of there so as not to miss the date. I ended up living with that girl for a year.DAMN! This Russian thing is really getting out of hand!

[HollywoodGuy]

Well my live in GF finally got a job and starts next week. So my opportunities to date will open up a little. Its been a month since I have seen anyone but my new little girl (who isn't so new anymore). My GF does allow her over, but not all the time, today she patiently waited for my GF to leave for a party before I could bring her over drama free. I miss my ATF and my super spinner. But they are still waiting patiently as well. My GF only allows all this because she can't be on the hook for all my needs in the FC. It's just over her ability to provide them. In the meantime she gets to be the happy housewife. And I will do most, if not all of my dating while she is out of the house. We have a don't ask don't tell type of relationship. It's the mutual respect for each others needs that keeps us together.

[HollywoodGuy]

The youngin's (my GF and little girl) go to a pool party in Hollywood while the old folks (me and my roommate) stay home and watch netflix.

[HollywoodGuy]

Roommate, GF and little girl. I had all three of them in my home for the last 24 hours. That was a first (for that long of a time period). Everyone got along, I spent some time with each of them and there was no drama.

[Bbarrett]

I signed up for Seeking Arrangements a few months ago, and it went great. Sent messages to a few super hot women, and got decent responses. Made an arrangement with one girl who was a UCLA student, and we went to NY for a few days and had a great time. Little expensive, though, at $3 k for 4 days. Made another arrangement with another girl who is a model, and we traded STD test info, and had a great time for a couple months. It takes time to sift through the girls and figure which ones you like, and which ones are real. Best bet is to really put effort into your profile, and be honest, and that will make it so you save a lot of time.

[HollywoodGuy]

My SA membership has been expired for a couple of weeks now. My GF has been living here for about a month now. The withdrawal symptoms from not sugaring are pretty painful. I try not to think about it too much. I did see my super spinner last week and will again this week. But it's rough going for now. Lack of time and funds leaves me no other responsible alternative. I just checked out all the slim AA girls that signed up the last 4 weeks. No shortages now or in the future. I guess it's something to look forward to, whenever that is.

[HollywoodGuy]

I haven't met anyone new in a while. But I did build up a pipeline over the years. Today while I was in the FC with my little girl, a latina MILF I haven't seen in almost 2 years hmu for some revenge sex. I guess her and her hubby were having a bad day. It was my third trip to the FC in 17 hours (GF, little girl & MILF. In that order), I think I am set till Sunday night. My little girl was here the entire time the MILF was here, no big deal. But then my roommate came home while we were in the FC and was giving us the evil eye afterward and saying we were too loud.

Follow up. My roomate won't even talk to me tonite. Her loss. She is 34, but really needs to grow up.

[LeChiff]

I met an Asian SB on SA while back. I only gave her 150 for a 2 hr meet. She seemed really into me and would text me all day long after that. Then started saying she wanted to date for free. I agreed cause she will do al out anything and only wanted dick. Of course she lied about being single. She then told me she's married to a deadbeat and said she had two kids. Later on I found out she has three kids. But said she wants to divorce and and marry me. And doesn't want to do the SB thing but said only if I was her BF or married her. I have no interest. Not because of being a SB but I don't want to get serious with some one who has three kids. And she has lied a few time, like how many kids. I told her I would bang her when I can but I wouldn't be serious since she's married. She didn't like it but said ok. Then I got back with my GF and told her I couldn't see her and boy was she pissed. She still, texts me everyday. There's even more to the story but I'm trying to shorten it. What do you guys think? Anyone has a similiar experience? Anyone on here one of her regular SDs? She meets everyone at Starbucks on Azusa in West Covina. If you are one of the guys message me her name and let's compare notes.

[HollywoodGuy]

Slow week. Nothing to post. Maybe some other guys can post a little?