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Jan Fortifore
07-05-12, 22:46
Happy Aloha Thursday, pals! This idea really intrigues me. I see on another state's board that there is a thriving Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby market on the mainland.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

I've read that thread and see that it refers to two pay websites:

http://sugardaddie.com/

http://www.seekingarrangement.com/United_States/Hawaii/

I'm sure there are many others.

Anyone have any experience with this concept? I've read others trolling through Craigslist personals, Backpage adult services, and trying for freebies, but this idea makes sense. Older (typically) men with financial means reaching arrangements with younger women who are amateurs (non-professionals) for favors. I've posed this question to others, but I haven't gotten a response. I look forward to hearing from the brotherhood!

Laaate!

January44

Erotic808
07-06-12, 06:47
I know I'm not a brother but I do use at least one site like this. Sugarsugar. Com so I would think other girls like me do as well.


Happy Aloha Thursday, pals! This idea really intrigues me. I see on another state's board that there is a thriving Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby market on the mainland.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

I've read that thread and see that it refers to two pay websites:

http://sugardaddie.com/

http://www.seekingarrangement.com/United_States/Hawaii/

I'm sure there are many others.

Anyone have any experience with this concept? I've read others trolling through Craigslist personals, Backpage adult services, and trying for freebies, but this idea makes sense. Older (typically) men with financial means reaching arrangements with younger women who are amateurs (non-professionals) for favors. I've posed this question to others, but I haven't gotten a response. I look forward to hearing from the brotherhood!

Laaate!

January44

Ewa Beach
07-07-12, 21:25
Anyone have any experience with this concept? I've read others trolling through Craigslist personals, Backpage adult services, and trying for freebies, but this idea makes sense. Older (typically) men with financial means reaching arrangements with younger women who are amateurs (non-professionals) for favors. I've posed this question to others, but I haven't gotten a response. I look forward to hearing from the brotherhood!

Laaate!

January44If you really want a sugar baby, then you should move to a place like Thailand, P. I. Or the Dominican Republic.

A sugar baby in the USA will cost you a fortune, she will treat you like crap, she will probably have at least one boy friend on the side (and he may beat you up) , she will steal from you whenever she gets a chance, she'll make a mess of your house, she almost certainly won't cook or clean, and she won't hesitate to dump you if / when a better offer comes along. Furthermore, if your USA sugar baby lives with you, then she may have you arrested on bogus DV charges (all she has to do is call 911 and say that you threatened her). It is just too dangerous to get involved with a USA sugar baby.

A sugar baby in Thailand, P. I. Or the Dominican Republic will treat you nice (as long as you treat her nice) , she will cook and clean for you, and she'll expect far less money from you. A foreign sugar baby will still take advantage of you if the opportunity arises, but, in a foreign country, it will be much easier for you to ensure that she never has the opportunity to take advantage of you. Just make sure that she is not under age and get her tested for all STD's including HIV.

Mipene77
07-07-12, 23:23
If you really want a sugar baby, then you should move to a place like Thailand, P. I. Or the Dominican Republic.

A sugar baby in the USA will cost you a fortune, she will treat you like crap, she will probably have at least one boy friend on the side (and he may beat you up) , she will steal from you whenever she gets a chance, she'll make a mess of your house, she almost certainly won't cook or clean, and she won't hesitate to dump you if / when a better offer comes along. Furthermore, if your USA sugar baby lives with you, then she may have you arrested on bogus DV charges (all she has to do is call 911 and say that you threatened her). It is just too dangerous to get involved with a USA sugar baby.

A sugar baby in Thailand, P. I. Or the Dominican Republic will treat you nice (as long as you treat her nice) , she will cook and clean for you, and she'll expect far less money from you. A foreign sugar baby will still take advantage of you if the opportunity arises, but, in a foreign country, it will be much easier for you to ensure that she never has the opportunity to take advantage of you. Just make sure that she is not under age and get her tested for all STD's including HIV.Well said dude, stay far far away from the typical raised in the USA, overweight, bitchy, feminist, entitlement oriented, white and black women. Gone are the days of a good white or black girl. Those girls left us back in the 70's. Feminism absolutely ruined women in America. Asian and other foreign women not influenced by feminism rule. JMO.

Crash9999
07-08-12, 06:54
If you really want a sugar baby, then you should move to a place like Thailand, P. I. Or the Dominican Republic.

A sugar baby in the USA will cost you a fortune, she will treat you like crap, she will probably have at least one boy friend on the side (and he may beat you up) , she will steal from you whenever she gets a chance, she'll make a mess of your house, she almost certainly won't cook or clean, and she won't hesitate to dump you if / when a better offer comes along. Furthermore, if your USA sugar baby lives with you, then she may have you arrested on bogus DV charges (all she has to do is call 911 and say that you threatened her). It is just too dangerous to get involved with a USA sugar baby.

A sugar baby in Thailand, P. I. Or the Dominican Republic will treat you nice (as long as you treat her nice) , she will cook and clean for you, and she'll expect far less money from you. A foreign sugar baby will still take advantage of you if the opportunity arises, but, in a foreign country, it will be much easier for you to ensure that she never has the opportunity to take advantage of you. Just make sure that she is not under age and get her tested for all STD's including HIV.Here in Thailand, a paid / unpaid shorttime girlfriend is called a 'gik' which usually lasts a few months (usually around the time the guy gets bored of having sex with the same girl) When the paid relationship lasts for more then a year or so then the sugarbabe moves up to a lesser wife or "mia noi".

The Thai legal system may protect men's rights through divorce and child support, but this doesn't stop the guys that showup in Thailand to marry bargirls and farmer's daughters only to get everything taken away from them. The majority of foreigners that come here supidly end up paying dowrys, purchase houses and business's for the girl and her family. I am sure you know at least one guy that is doing this from Hawaii and dreams to moving to Thailand in the near future. Well, there are thousands of guys here that are doing this, and not the system of sugarbabes.

In fact, I do not know anyone in a sugarbabe relationship. It's either that they are married, or if they have game, meet girls online or in the clubs and have countless women for free. I say its 70% married. 20% freebies. 9% still go to gogo bars or soapies. 1% sugarbabes.

DT Looker
08-08-14, 15:39
Just asking for advice right now, but recently I was proposed by a non-pro girl to have an arrangement with her.

She was working BP for a little while, but then recently had too much trouble hiding the guys she was meeting. She recently managed to get a normal job, and asked if I would like to have exclusive access with her to help supplement her income. Essentially, when the two of can meet, and I can get everything BB and cum wherever I want to. (She used to do FS and AS covered.) Also, once in a while she is willing to spend the night (at a much cheaper price than the Waikiki girls) and have fun all night. Prices are a bit higher than the SW that I usually go with, but I don't get a crack ho, and she is better looking than all the girls down there.

LilAbner
08-08-14, 16:32
Just asking for advice right now, but recently I was proposed by a non-pro girl to have an arrangement with her.

She was working BP for a little while, but then recently had too much trouble hiding the guys she was meeting. She recently managed to get a normal job, and asked if I would like to have exclusive access with her to help supplement her income. Essentially, when the two of can meet, and I can get everything BB and cum wherever I want to. (She used to do FS and AS covered.) Also, once in a while she is willing to spend the night (at a much cheaper price than the Waikiki girls) and have fun all night. Prices are a bit higher than the SW that I usually go with, but I don't get a crack ho, and she is better looking than all the girls down there.What is the advice that you need? Should you agree to those terms? By all means "yeah". Are you asking if you can share this endeavor with your fellow mongers. Of course!

Cruise808
08-08-14, 19:00
Just asking for advice right now, but recently I was proposed by a non-pro girl to have an arrangement with her.

She was working BP for a little while, but then recently had too much trouble hiding the guys she was meeting. She recently managed to get a normal job, and asked if I would like to have exclusive access with her to help supplement her income. Essentially, when the two of can meet, and I can get everything BB and cum wherever I want to. (She used to do FS and AS covered.) Also, once in a while she is willing to spend the night (at a much cheaper price than the Waikiki girls) and have fun all night. Prices are a bit higher than the SW that I usually go with, but I don't get a crack ho, and she is better looking than all the girls down there.It all depends on the price she charges you.

Hornysamowen
08-08-14, 20:08
Just asking for advice right now, but recently I was proposed by a non-pro girl to have an arrangement with her.

She was working BP for a little while, but then recently had too much trouble hiding the guys she was meeting. She recently managed to get a normal job, and asked if I would like to have exclusive access with her to help supplement her income. Essentially, when the two of can meet, and I can get everything BB and cum wherever I want to. (She used to do FS and AS covered.) Also, once in a while she is willing to spend the night (at a much cheaper price than the Waikiki girls) and have fun all night. Prices are a bit higher than the SW that I usually go with, but I don't get a crack ho, and she is better looking than all the girls down there.You should try it out, some thing different. On a side note, a shout out to the providers that read this forum, seeking a sugar baby, contact me, send me an email.

Jan Fortifore
08-08-14, 22:57
Just asking for advice right now, but recently I was proposed by a non-pro girl to have an arrangement with her.

She was working BP for a little while, but then recently had too much trouble hiding the guys she was meeting. She recently managed to get a normal job, and asked if I would like to have exclusive access with her to help supplement her income. Essentially, when the two of can meet, and I can get everything BB and cum wherever I want to. (She used to do FS and AS covered.) Also, once in a while she is willing to spend the night (at a much cheaper price than the Waikiki girls) and have fun all night. Prices are a bit higher than the SW that I usually go with, but I don't get a crack ho, and she is better looking than all the girls down there.


You should try it out, some thing different. On a side note, a shout out to the providers that read this forum, seeking a sugar baby, contact me, send me an email.I'm glad to read this thread is resurrected. The positives of an arrangement like this is sure sex without the relationship hassle. If you have the disposable income to spend, do it.

At Hornysamowen: This is genius. If any non-pro women read this and seek a sugar daddy, contact me too.

Laaaate!!

Jan Fortifore.

Pau Hana Party
08-08-14, 22:59
Just asking for advice right now, but recently I was proposed by a non-pro girl to have an arrangement with her.

She was working BP for a little while, but then recently had too much trouble hiding the guys she was meeting. She recently managed to get a normal job, and asked if I would like to have exclusive access with her to help supplement her income. Essentially, when the two of can meet, and I can get everything BB and cum wherever I want to. (She used to do FS and AS covered.) Also, once in a while she is willing to spend the night (at a much cheaper price than the Waikiki girls) and have fun all night. Prices are a bit higher than the SW that I usually go with, but I don't get a crack ho, and she is better looking than all the girls down there.Sounds like a good situation, as long as you are in charge of the arrangements. I had a situation with someone like that, she was working her way thru college. She was young 23 at the time, she tried working at volcano girls for a short time. (that's where I met her) about the 3rd time I saw her at VG, I asked her if I could meet her outside the establishment and we exchanged numbers. From that point all of our sessions where at my place and always BB. Then one day she asked if we could have an arrangement because she wanted to stop seeing other people and just focus on a part-time job (legal sec for a small law firm) and school. So for a few months it was cool, we had great sex, made videos, even attended swinger parties. For me it was awesome. Sex with a young pro all to myself. Then one day she called and ask me for "advance money" so she could pay bills and pick up stuff for school. I didn't have a good feeling about it, but I figured she became a friend so I helped. Shortly after I called her to collect on my advancement, our schedules just didn't jive. A short time later she told me she met a man and she wanted out of our arrangement. She has since married and moved to FL. What I learned from this was things got difficult when she needed cash. Your friend is going to look at you to meet her financial needs. I think as long as you are in charge of your arrangement, and it serves you when you want to see her, you should be ok. Other wise let her find her own path. My2 cents. Pau.

Inda719
08-09-14, 14:57
Sounds like a good situation, as long as you are in charge of the arrangements. I had a situation with someone like that, she was working her way thru college. She was young 23 at the time, she tried working at volcano girls for a short time. (that's where I met her) about the 3rd time I saw her at VG, I asked her if I could meet her outside the establishment and we exchanged numbers. From that point all of our sessions where at my place and always BB. Then one day she asked if we could have an arrangement because she wanted to stop seeing other people and just focus on a part-time job (legal sec for a small law firm) and school. So for a few months it was cool, we had great sex, made videos, even attended swinger parties. For me it was awesome. Sex with a young pro all to myself. Then one day she called and ask me for "advance money" so she could pay bills and pick up stuff for school. I didn't have a good feeling about it, but I figured she became a friend so I helped. Shortly after I called her to collect on my advancement, our schedules just didn't jive. A short time later she told me she met a man and she wanted out of our arrangement. She has since married and moved to FL. What I learned from this was things got difficult when she needed cash. Your friend is going to look at you to meet her financial needs. I think as long as you are in charge of your arrangement, and it serves you when you want to see her, you should be ok. Other wise let her find her own path. My2 cents. Pau.Yep I agree never forgot to it and arrangement and you come first. Because apparently you have something they want or feel you can provide so keep it that way don't get it twisted until she take the first step and gives because if you do you'll going to loss. SAVE A HO comes to mind when these situation acquire and you forget that it's business. Sometime you think why is this girl doing this she so fine she could have anybody she wants and she does you just don't know about them. Get your first. Because she's getting hers.

INDA.

Localpopoki
08-09-14, 18:16
Yep I agree never forgot to it and arrangement and you come first. Because apparently you have something they want or feel you can provide so keep it that way don't get it twisted until she take the first step and gives because if you do you'll going to loss. SAVE A HO comes to mind when these situation acquire and you forget that it's business. Sometime you think why is this girl doing this she so fine she could have anybody she wants and she does you just don't know about them. Get your first. Because she's getting hers.

INDA.Yep, get yours first. Don't ever give advances for services to-be-rendered at a later date. Got bit by that one before. Pay and play. FWB is cool, but will the F part remain after the be part ends? The person may be a non-pro, but becomes a pro once the agreement begins.

Have fun, but always get your first and be prepared to kiss the Friend part goodbye if the benefits end.

My nickel's worth.

LP.

Hawaii Boy
08-11-14, 17:05
I have been looking for this exact arrangement and tried online services but nothing comes close to working.

If there any girls reading this forum, please PM me and lets get an arrangement together. I would prefer the same girl every time if she is the right one.

HB.

Kaina2076
08-11-14, 21:15
I have been looking for this exact arrangement and tried online services but nothing comes close to working.

If there any girls reading this forum, please PM me and lets get an arrangement together. I would prefer the same girl every time if she is the right one.

HB.I doubt there is anyone out there that hasn't contemplated an arrangement with benefits in some form or another. Also I am sure that our counterparts also consider "arrangements" as well. The problem lies in how to get the word out and just possibly someone might get lucky by posting their interest on this forum. But I doubt it. However that having been said there are all sorts on arrangements going on all around us and I'm sure most of those involved just stumbled into them. I, for one, did stumble into one a few years ago. I walked into Casino on a busy night on about my 3rd or 4th stop of the evening. While pushing thru the crowd aiming for the single open stool, I literally bumped into a girl. In my state at the time I mistook her for someone I had been trying to meet at another bar and assuming it was that person, I immediately offered to buy a drink. No interview. Nothing. We started talking and I realized she wasn't who I thought she was, but was in no way disappointed to be sitting with her. On drink number 3 she started telling me her tale of woe and how she needed a place to stay within a day or two or she was homeless. She proposed rent to be paid in kind if I happened to have a place she could stay. All this knocked my socks off and I at least had the presence of mind to say that I did have a place but let's both think about it and I will stop by the next night to see her. Anyway, she did move into a room in my house that I sometimes rent and which has a private entrance. All went well for about 2 weeks when she started bringing customers home with her. End of story. 2 points I want to make: 1. If it's going to happen it will when you least expect it and 2. Enjoy it while you can because it will never last despite your best efforts at making all arrangement set up front.

Kaina.

Redneck 1
08-28-14, 11:52
Just asking for advice right now, but recently I was proposed by a non-pro girl to have an arrangement with her.

She was working BP for a little while, but then recently had too much trouble hiding the guys she was meeting. She recently managed to get a normal job, and asked if I would like to have exclusive access with her to help supplement her income. Essentially, when the two of can meet, and I can get everything BB and cum wherever I want to. (She used to do FS and AS covered.) Also, once in a while she is willing to spend the night (at a much cheaper price than the Waikiki girls) and have fun all night. Prices are a bit higher than the SW that I usually go with, but I don't get a crack ho, and she is better looking than all the girls down there.Because you requested advice, here's mine. First, as others have indicated, don't let the "arrangement" include paying for anything in advance. Advance payment can significantly decrease a provider's motivation to be available and to perform to your satisfaction. Second, don't pay anything extra for a promise of "exclusive access". Unless you're with the provider 24/7 you won't know whether you really have "exclusive access". If the price is right and you're not around, the provider most likely won't reject another customer simply because she had promised you "exclusive access".

JustFacts
08-28-14, 12:59
Always pay as you go. My broker bud was "exclusive" fucking a realtor Regina pro yun hee. Same story. She was fuckng for money, became realtor legit, then needed cash so went back to fucking for cash, but was still a realtor. Found out he was one of about a dozen "exclusive" sugar daddies, LOL. (I found out by accident, drinking with a mama one night) She did BBFS and cum anywhere. Face, mouth, etc. But no Greek only fia. Sound familiar, eh? He paid $300 which I thought was fair for BBFS cim cip ws, GFE service from a 35 year old younger looking pro.

She eventually asked for pay in advanced and she skipped town to Korea for a while with his cash, then threatened blackmail when she returned. Be careful pay as you go. A pro is what it is, a girl who fucks for cash. It's like a drug for them.

Pay as you go, because you paying them to go away. I learned my lesson watching my bud go through all the drama. It's a good arrangement if the pro is your flavor, but be wise and pay as you go.


Because you requested advice, here's mine. First, as others have indicated, don't let the "arrangement" include paying for anything in advance. Advance payment can significantly decrease a provider's motivation to be available and to perform to your satisfaction. Second, don't pay anything extra for a promise of "exclusive access". Unless you're with the provider 24/7 you won't know whether you really have "exclusive access". If the price is right and you're not around, the provider most likely won't reject another customer simply because she had promised you "exclusive access".

Gogreen
09-30-14, 16:44
Been dabbling in this area for the past year. Any seniors want to trade intel, PM me.

Definitely stick with pay per encounter as they can be flighty and flakey.

PohakuBoy
10-03-14, 17:59
I too have been looking for this arrangement and online SB / SD services have a fair number of fake & out-of-date profiles.

To any SB girls reading this forum, please PM me and lets get an arrangement together! Be great 2 b with same girl every time if we're good mutual fit.

- PB (with big thanks & sincere appreciation to HB whose ad I 'borrowed', hope it's ok bro! Imitation = sincerest form of flattery).

Pok Gai
10-27-14, 19:03
Part 1 is in the freebies.

So. After 6 weeks with my neighbor. She tells me she's having $ problems, and might have to move back home. She originally had 3 other roommates, but 2 ditched them, so they've been stuck with extra rent ever since. I thought to myself, fun while it lasted- better fuck her as much as I can. Then one day I just sort of did the math, and thought maybe I could make it work. Completely forgot about this thread, and probably should've read it for tips before making an arrangement.

I know her landlord. Told her the situation, and they agreed to drop the rent a bit to help them out until the lease was up next year. She knows it's hard for me to funnel cash w / o my SO knowing, so I buy her house things and expense to my company card. Then I give her cash to cover that extra rent. She didn't want to take it, said we aren't like that. I just told her its to help her out until she can find a job to pay rent. At least she can focus on school and I could visit her more often if she wasn't working.

I'm coming up on month 2, and now I have concerns. I mean its all nice now, its not like she's asking me to buy her bags, jewelry and stuff. I buy like groceries and stuff for the house. But like down the line if she gets smarter / scandalous. That's just a bigger headache?

So I'm posting in this forum to see maybe someone would be interested AFTER I'm done with her. Sorry just not in the mood to be sharing a the same time. Of course she's not a provider, just a regular student. So I'd have to ask her. I don't know how that talk conversation would even be like. But I just thought I'd put this out there. You can read about her in freebies. But if you're lazy. She's like a 6-7 by our AMP standards. Curvy with a nice ass, like a-be cups. Smallish for her weight.

Isle Of Man
10-28-14, 01:00
Part 1 is in the freebies.

So. After 6 weeks with my neighbor. She tells me she's having $ problems, and might have to move back home. She originally had 3 other roommates, but 2 ditched them, so they've been stuck with extra rent ever since. I thought to myself, fun while it lasted- better fuck her as much as I can. Then one day I just sort of did the math, and thought maybe I could make it work. Completely forgot about this thread, and probably should've read it for tips before making an arrangement.

I know her landlord. Told her the situation, and they agreed to drop the rent a bit to help them out until the lease was up next year. She knows it's hard for me to funnel cash w / o my SO knowing, so I buy her house things and expense to my company card. Then I give her cash to cover that extra rent. She didn't want to take it, said we aren't like that. I just told her its to help her out until she can find a job to pay rent. At least she can focus on school and I could visit her more often if she wasn't working.

I'm coming up on month 2, and now I have concerns. I mean its all nice now, its not like she's asking me to buy her bags, jewelry and stuff. I buy like groceries and stuff for the house. But like down the line if she gets smarter / scandalous. That's just a bigger headache?

So I'm posting in this forum to see maybe someone would be interested AFTER I'm done with her. Sorry just not in the mood to be sharing a the same time. Of course she's not a provider, just a regular student. So I'd have to ask her. I don't know how that talk conversation would even be like. But I just thought I'd put this out there. You can read about her in freebies. But if you're lazy. She's like a 6-7 by our AMP standards. Curvy with a nice ass, like a-be cups. Smallish for her weight.I'm guessing she needs around $1000 a month to help her with the expenses. That's five AMP visits. I think most brothers would prefer to pay that kind of money to be with five different providers.

If in your shoes, I would help her out with some money too. But it's not a long term solution, thus shouldn't go into a sugar baby type of arrangement.

But good for you for your lucky freebie. Didn't you have some too while you visited China long time ago? Are you like tall and handsome or something?

Kagasain
10-28-14, 01:06
Part 1 is in the freebies.

So. After 6 weeks with my neighbor. She tells me she's having $ problems, and might have to move back home. She originally had 3 other roommates, but 2 ditched them, so they've been stuck with extra rent ever since. I thought to myself, fun while it lasted- better fuck her as much as I can. Then one day I just sort of did the math, and thought maybe I could make it work. Completely forgot about this thread, and probably should've read it for tips before making an arrangement.

I know her landlord. Told her the situation, and they agreed to drop the rent a bit to help them out until the lease was up next year. She knows it's hard for me to funnel cash w / o my SO knowing, so I buy her house things and expense to my company card. Then I give her cash to cover that extra rent. She didn't want to take it, said we aren't like that. I just told her its to help her out until she can find a job to pay rent. At least she can focus on school and I could visit her more often if she wasn't working.

I'm coming up on month 2, and now I have concerns. I mean its all nice now, its not like she's asking me to buy her bags, jewelry and stuff. I buy like groceries and stuff for the house. But like down the line if she gets smarter / scandalous. That's just a bigger headache?

So I'm posting in this forum to see maybe someone would be interested AFTER I'm done with her. Sorry just not in the mood to be sharing a the same time. Of course she's not a provider, just a regular student. So I'd have to ask her. I don't know how that talk conversation would even be like. But I just thought I'd put this out there. You can read about her in freebies. But if you're lazy. She's like a 6-7 by our AMP standards. Curvy with a nice ass, like a-be cups. Smallish for her weight.A horny 19 year old. Would have to see a picture, figure out how much help she needs and maybe simple the good. Wonder if she cheaper than my AMP fees.

AmpAddict808
10-28-14, 01:22
Part 1 is in the freebies.

So. After 6 weeks with my neighbor. She tells me she's having $ problems, and might have to move back home. She originally had 3 other roommates, but 2 ditched them, so they've been stuck with extra rent ever since. I thought to myself, fun while it lasted- better fuck her as much as I can. Then one day I just sort of did the math, and thought maybe I could make it work. Completely forgot about this thread, and probably should've read it for tips before making an arrangement.

I know her landlord. Told her the situation, and they agreed to drop the rent a bit to help them out until the lease was up next year. She knows it's hard for me to funnel cash w / o my SO knowing, so I buy her house things and expense to my company card. Then I give her cash to cover that extra rent. She didn't want to take it, said we aren't like that. I just told her its to help her out until she can find a job to pay rent. At least she can focus on school and I could visit her more often if she wasn't working.

I'm coming up on month 2, and now I have concerns. I mean its all nice now, its not like she's asking me to buy her bags, jewelry and stuff. I buy like groceries and stuff for the house. But like down the line if she gets smarter / scandalous. That's just a bigger headache?

So I'm posting in this forum to see maybe someone would be interested AFTER I'm done with her. Sorry just not in the mood to be sharing a the same time. Of course she's not a provider, just a regular student. So I'd have to ask her. I don't know how that talk conversation would even be like. But I just thought I'd put this out there. You can read about her in freebies. But if you're lazy. She's like a 6-7 by our AMP standards. Curvy with a nice ass, like a-be cups. Smallish for her weight.Its BBFS and seems exclusive (and low risk for STDs). So why give it up so fast? Teach her some things and give her orgasms that no other lover she ever has can match.

SureYourRight
10-28-14, 02:24
19 year old girls aren't know for their discretion. Plus when it comes to jobs at that age people are only going to really look for one if they need one. Eventually she is going to let something slip to one of her friends and the usual question of "what's the most you think he will give you?" Will come up. Either that or her friend will be willing to pay to play too. I would end it before she gets comfortable. I mean would it be easier for her to walk away from after you've been shelling out 1000 a month for 3-4 months?

Honauc
10-28-14, 03:49
I'm guessing she needs around $1000 a month to help her with the expenses. That's five AMP visits. I think most brothers would prefer to pay that kind of money to be with five different providers.

If in your shoes, I would help her out with some money too. But it's not a long term solution, thus shouldn't go into a sugar baby type of arrangement.

But good for you for your lucky freebie. Didn't you have some too while you visited China long time ago? Are you like tall and handsome or something?Maybe PG can share a pic of him and her. I want to see how PG look to figure out why he is always so lucky!

Comp Dude 35
10-28-14, 04:46
Part 1 is in the freebies.

So. After 6 weeks with my neighbor. She tells me she's having $ problems, and might have to move back home. She originally had 3 other roommates, but 2 ditched them, so they've been stuck with extra rent ever since. I thought to myself, fun while it lasted- better fuck her as much as I can. Then one day I just sort of did the math, and thought maybe I could make it work. Completely forgot about this thread, and probably should've read it for tips before making an arrangement.

I know her landlord. Told her the situation, and they agreed to drop the rent a bit to help them out until the lease was up next year. She knows it's hard for me to funnel cash w / o my SO knowing, so I buy her house things and expense to my company card. Then I give her cash to cover that extra rent. She didn't want to take it, said we aren't like that. I just told her its to help her out until she can find a job to pay rent. At least she can focus on school and I could visit her more often if she wasn't working.

I'm coming up on month 2, and now I have concerns. I mean its all nice now, its not like she's asking me to buy her bags, jewelry and stuff. I buy like groceries and stuff for the house. But like down the line if she gets smarter / scandalous. That's just a bigger headache?

So I'm posting in this forum to see maybe someone would be interested AFTER I'm done with her. Sorry just not in the mood to be sharing a the same time. Of course she's not a provider, just a regular student. So I'd have to ask her. I don't know how that talk conversation would even be like. But I just thought I'd put this out there. You can read about her in freebies. But if you're lazy. She's like a 6-7 by our AMP standards. Curvy with a nice ass, like a-be cups. Smallish for her weight.If she does, I could help her for a couple months!! LOL!

Seriously, I would think most mongers would like the variety instead of the same ole. Then again, if she looks like your typical college student, it could be worth it for the dirty ole man type.

Aloha!

CD35.

Pok Gai
10-28-14, 04:59
Damn the PMs. Sorry only replied to a few names I know. I haven't been on here much so I'll have to check your reports for the brothers I don't know / remember.

CD35 - I'll guess I'll she if she wants some anal. It's not really my thing. But for you, guess I'll take one for the team.

The reason I'm not looking for this to be long term, is how close she lives to me. Knows my SO. Like if I offered to pass her up, I ask that one of you help her move. Not in the mood to meet any of you in RL.

IOM. I'm pretty avg, hell I consider myself under avg TBH. China seemed like it was so long ago. Business has been so tough for us that we don't even send our entire team there. If you've kept up, they've been sending people here, and to Vegas. Hell I haven't even been able to go to Vegas for over a year. I've had to let so many people go, that I'm pretty much stuck on this island.

Pok Gai
11-02-14, 02:29
So yesterday I went to get a quick fix and drop off this months cash. To my surprise, not only did she not want it. She gave me back last months money back. Blah Blah, she doesn't sleep with me for $. But if I want to buy stuff for the house (food and shit) it's ok? I'm like confused. Like am I getting baited into something deeper down the line?

Uki Eater
11-02-14, 04:25
So yesterday I went to get a quick fix and drop off this months cash. To my surprise, not only did she not want it. She gave me back last months money back. Blah Blah, she doesn't sleep with me for $. But if I want to buy stuff for the house (food and shit) it's ok? I'm like confused. Like am I getting baited into something deeper down the line?My thinking is that it makes her feel like a working girl when you do that. The stuff for the house and groceries is fine because things like that doesn't make her feel that way. It's more of a thoughtful / sweet thing to do. Even though your intentions are not to see her in that way, she cannot help but think that you might be thinking that. By giving it back to you, she wants to erase the things that you might be thinking. Heck, she also could be thinking that you're testing her by offering it.

"Hmmm, I wonder if she'll just help herself and just take it or, she would not take it and give it back?"

She probably has other voids to fill and someone her age needs that moral support as well.

Nutmaker
11-02-14, 14:17
My thinking is that it makes her feel like a working girl when you do that. The stuff for the house and groceries is fine because things like that doesn't make her feel that way. It's more of a thoughtful / sweet thing to do. Even though your intentions are not to see her in that way, she cannot help but think that you might be thinking that. By giving it back to you, she wants to erase the things that you might be thinking. Heck, she also could be thinking that you're testing her by offering it.

"Hmmm, I wonder if she'll just help herself and just take it or, she would not take it and give it back?"

She probably has other voids to fill and someone her age needs that moral support as well.Kind of like the difference between leaving money on your SO's nightstand vs. A nice piece of jewelry. She might slap you and get in a big argument if you leave her cash, but diamonds are another story.

Give her what she wants / needs like the food and house goods. She appreciates that and doesn't feel cheapened.

Uki Eater
11-02-14, 20:10
Give her what she wants / needs like the food and house goods. She appreciates that and doesn't feel cheapened.Yeah. But, doing stuff like that, she may end up liking him or already likes him where she may start to get personal and intimate.

Nutmaker
11-02-14, 20:37
Yeah. But, doing stuff like that, she may end up liking him or already likes him where she may start to get personal and intimate.My bad. I wasn't suggesting that he leave her jewelry, just making an analogy.

Uki Eater
11-02-14, 20:43
My bad. I wasn't suggesting that he leave her jewelry, just making an analogy.Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that doing thoughtful things like the groceries and things around the house, the girl cannot help but, eventually like the person.

Punanilicr
11-02-14, 20:56
Yeah, I know. I'm just saying that doing thoughtful things like the groceries and things around the house, the girl cannot help but, eventually like the person.Well, it seems as though that was her suggestion, so, it could be a way for her to be compensated without FEELING compensated.

AmpAddict808
11-03-14, 11:49
So yesterday I went to get a quick fix and drop off this months cash. To my surprise, not only did she not want it. She gave me back last months money back. Blah Blah, she doesn't sleep with me for $. But if I want to buy stuff for the house (food and shit) it's ok? I'm like confused. Like am I getting baited into something deeper down the line?Instead of hard cash, why not give her a gift debit card? Even though it's still money, at least she may not feel like a "kept" woman as with giving hard cash.

Pok Gai
11-06-14, 19:44
Yeah. But, doing stuff like that, she may end up liking him or already likes him where she may start to get personal and intimate.The personal and intimate part is what I worry about. I guess she figured out the money part. But whatever it is, I don't think she's hurting enough to be put out there. Like I don't know how I'd even say want someone else to take care of you. She just wants to fuck. I can stay over if I want. We can talk about random shit. But she seems to want to keep a distance. Which I'm 100% fine with.

Uki Eater
11-06-14, 23:22
The personal and intimate part is what I worry about. I guess she figured out the money part. But whatever it is, I don't think she's hurting enough to be put out there. Like I don't know how I'd even say want someone else to take care of you. She just wants to fuck. I can stay over if I want. We can talk about random shit. But she seems to want to keep a distance. Which I'm 100% fine with.It could also be a means of rebelling because maybe her ex bf left her or there's issues with her current bf. I know this one girl years ago, she was saving herself for marriage with her bf. But, when she found out he cheated on her, she decided to just fuk it and she started sleeping with guys. At one point, she started putting down guys whom she thinks are players but then, later on.

"I no mind sleeping with that guy".

LOL.

Admin2
03-01-15, 00:34
To the guy that started a sugar baby thread today. Is there something wrong with this one?

A2

StickyWeed
08-01-15, 19:42
Hi fellow Mongers.

I don't post here too often, but I have a question that I think a few of you could help me with. I live with my parents, but I just found out that my step-dad is cheating on my mom, or about to. I found some questionable pictures on his phone, without exactly going through it cause he told me to look at a picture and I did and he told me to swipe to see more and I swiped in the wrong direction and stumbled upon them. Anyways, I know that both of them had not had sex in YEARS, because he told me this. I don't want to tell my mom, but I don't want him to pursue this other woman, cause I don't see this ending good. As people say, there's no such thing as cheap / free pussy. As far as I can tell, this can't end on a good note. Somewhere along the way someone is going to want to escalate the relationship, and that's when shit is going to hit the fan. I actually want to suggest to my dad to just go to an AMP. $200 bucks NSA, and hotter chicks than the lady I saw. Its a win / win with an AMP. Please advise!

Kalani69
08-02-15, 04:15
Hi fellow Mongers.

I don't post here too often, but I have a question that I think a few of you could help me with. I live with my parents, but I just found out that my step-dad is cheating on my mom, or about to. I found some questionable pictures on his phone, without exactly going through it cause he told me to look at a picture and I did and he told me to swipe to see more and I swiped in the wrong direction and stumbled upon them. Anyways, I know that both of them had not had sex in YEARS, because he told me this. I don't want to tell my mom, but I don't want him to pursue this other woman, cause I don't see this ending good. As people say, there's no such thing as cheap / free pussy. As far as I can tell, this can't end on a good note. Somewhere along the way someone is going to want to escalate the relationship, and that's when shit is going to hit the fan. I actually want to suggest to my dad to just go to an AMP. $200 bucks NSA, and hotter chicks than the lady I saw. Its a win / win with an AMP. Please advise!Stay out of it.

MidgetMac87
08-02-15, 06:58
Stay out of it.+100, Don't involve yourself in the situation.

Idusixtyning
08-02-15, 12:22
Hi fellow Mongers.

I don't post here too often, but I have a question that I think a few of you could help me with. I live with my parents, but I just found out that my step-dad is cheating on my mom, or about to. I found some questionable pictures on his phone, without exactly going through it cause he told me to look at a picture and I did and he told me to swipe to see more and I swiped in the wrong direction and stumbled upon them. Anyways, I know that both of them had not had sex in YEARS, because he told me this. I don't want to tell my mom, but I don't want him to pursue this other woman, cause I don't see this ending good. As people say, there's no such thing as cheap / free pussy. As far as I can tell, this can't end on a good note. Somewhere along the way someone is going to want to escalate the relationship, and that's when shit is going to hit the fan. I actually want to suggest to my dad to just go to an AMP. $200 bucks NSA, and hotter chicks than the lady I saw. Its a win / win with an AMP. Please advise!

Why don't you take your stepdad on a night out and then treat him to an AMP visit? Maybe he'll see the light.

Incogfilipino
08-02-15, 21:39
+100, Don't involve yourself in the situation.I will throw in another vote in favor of staying out of it. "Not your circus, not your monkeys. ".

InHawaii
08-03-15, 00:19
Hi fellow Mongers.

I don't post here too often, but I have a question that I think a few of you could help me with. I live with my parents, but I just found out that my step-dad is cheating on my mom, or about to. I found some questionable pictures on his phone, without exactly going through it cause he told me to look at a picture and I did and he told me to swipe to see more and I swiped in the wrong direction and stumbled upon them. Anyways, I know that both of them had not had sex in YEARS, because he told me this. I don't want to tell my mom, but I don't want him to pursue this other woman, cause I don't see this ending good. As people say, there's no such thing as cheap / free pussy. As far as I can tell, this can't end on a good note. Somewhere along the way someone is going to want to escalate the relationship, and that's when shit is going to hit the fan. I actually want to suggest to my dad to just go to an AMP. $200 bucks NSA, and hotter chicks than the lady I saw. Its a win / win with an AMP. Please advise!There are obviously a lot of dynamics involved here. If there is no intimacy between them, a AMP visit will not be a cure all. And remember s lack of intimacy takes two. Better to spend the money you would on a AMP and get them to a counselor. Unless your a counselor, not sure you should attempt to take on all the issues here.

Uki Eater
08-03-15, 04:28
I actually want to suggest to my dad to just go to an AMP. $200 bucks NSA, and hotter chicks than the lady I saw. Its a win / win with an AMP. Please advise!This might open up a can of worms by bringing up the AMPs. He could get addicted to it, go on a splurge, get hooked on a particular provider and pick up something by doing bb. Next thing you know, you're going to wish you didn't bring up the AMPs in the first place.

StickyWeed
08-04-15, 02:28
+100, Don't involve yourself in the situation.First of all mahalos for all of the responses so far. Yeah on second thought I don't think I want to bring up the AMP scene. But I do feel like I have the duty at the very least to talk to him. I don't really want to tell my mom, cause then you going to see my family on the 9 o'clock news. Fucking shitty situation to be in. I love my x Dad but I can'thelp myself from being fucking pissed.

Van Deventer
10-24-15, 01:06
These threads are pretty active in other cities, so I was wondering if anyone had any non-pros that they would like to share? I am thinking that there must be some UH or HPU students who have taken a step to the dark side and traded favors for $. You know the type of girl who thinks that doing it just once in a while doesn't make have a pro. Always willing to help someone in need. Sorry I have nothing to trade.

SlappinBellies
10-24-15, 04:41
These threads are pretty active in other cities, so I was wondering if anyone had any non-pros that they would like to share? I am thinking that there must be some UH or HPU students who have taken a step to the dark side and traded favors for $. You know the type of girl who thinks that doing it just once in a while doesn't make have a pro. Always willing to help someone in need. Sorry I have nothing to trade.That's the thrill of the hunt. Finding those coeds willing to pay for play. They are out there at both UH and HPU. Its taken me many rejections to find the right words to encourage them to make the arrangement but it can be done. I've had to learn from many errors in communication I think you should experience the same. Its an awkward situation for those that have found coeds to refer those that play to you as we would be concerned your next question would be what services are offered. Likely you will end up making comparisons with the service we get to the service you receive and complain if your not receiving the same. Seems like more trouble to help you out compared to you finding on your own.

APrivateLife
11-20-15, 18:57
That's the thrill of the hunt. Finding those coeds willing to pay for play. They are out there at both UH and HPU. Its taken me many rejections to find the right words to encourage them to make the arrangement but it can be done. I've had to learn from many errors in communication I think you should experience the same. Its an awkward situation for those that have found coeds to refer those that play to you as we would be concerned your next question would be what services are offered. Likely you will end up making comparisons with the service we get to the service you receive and complain if your not receiving the same. Seems like more trouble to help you out compared to you finding on your own.I agree with SlappinBellies, they are definitely out there. Also some other 20-something year olds that have entered the work world but need a little extra cabbage and are willing. There's websites with real women on them for this thread subject. Still tho. Have to weed thru the flakes and pretenders to get to the real contenders and depends on what you're seeking in your arrangement. Some have an over inflated sense of what they're worth. My experience has been the younger ones are appealing but difficult to deal with. Mid-twenties is a nice sweet spot I find tho YMMV.

It's definitely the thrill of the chase, and if you spend the requisite time to find a good one you won't want to share either (like I don't want to. Sorry, nothing personal toward you).

APL.

Fury907
01-20-16, 05:26
So I set up an account with SA the other day. I've been writing different girls. Getting decent responses. I have several Meet and Greets set up. I'll report back and let you know how it goes. So far its been pretty interesting in that I seem to get far more responses than I ever did with AFF or AM and sites like that. The Richmond forum has a ton of reporting on it. I've been reading up. So far it seems that a low key no picture profile will work fine. Hopefully this won't be a huge time suck with no results.

Fury907
02-11-16, 23:36
Aloha Bradduhs.

So here's my experience so far. It takes a fair amount of time to set things up. And even when they agree to meet for coffee most of them flake out and don't show up. So far I've had 3 meet and greets. What surprised me about all three was that they all had mental health issues. They were all taking prescription meds for their problems. They weren't batshit crazy but they weren't quite right either. Honestly, I felt kind of sorry for them. It was odd I don't think they meant to tell me but in the course of their rambling it came out.

Two weren't bad looking. Not great but not bad. One was really disappointing. I ended up hanging out with two of them. They were fun but had a bit of a jaded attitude. Nowhere near as bad as a pro but definitely not the sweet young girlfriend experience. The advantages I see so far are 1) Time. They are far more willing to have dinner, see a movie, sleep over etc. And 2) Attitude. Far more cooperative and hopeful to set up a continuing arrangement.

Redneck 1
02-13-16, 18:38
What surprised me about all three was that they all had mental health issues. They were all taking prescription meds for their problems. They weren't batshit crazy but they weren't quite right either.


They are far more willing to have dinner, see a movie, sleep over etc. Thanks for the interesting report. One comment: personally, I would be hesitant to have "sleep over" dates with women who have "mental health issues". When a guy is sleeping, he's essentially helpless. Sometimes it can be difficult to accurately predict the behavior of women who have mental illnesses, and even those who are on psychiatric medication may not always properly take it. Just my two cents.

Fury907
02-17-16, 07:19
I agree Redneck. I guess I should clarify that the first gal hung out and then left. The second gal got awfully drunk after an evening on the town and after we fooled around quite a bit she went to sleep and I just kinda laid there with a shiteating grin on my face enjoying the moment and didn't actually go to sleep but just kinda relaxed and took off for a few hours.


Thanks for the interesting report. One comment: personally, I would be hesitant to have "sleep over" dates with women who have "mental health issues". When a guy is sleeping, he's essentially helpless. Sometimes it can be difficult to accurately predict the behavior of women who have mental illnesses, and even those who are on psychiatric medication may not always properly take it. Just my two cents.

Johnny14
02-17-16, 20:51
Thanks for the interesting report. One comment: personally, I would be hesitant to have "sleep over" dates with women who have "mental health issues". When a guy is sleeping, he's essentially helpless. Sometimes it can be difficult to accurately predict the behavior of women who have mental illnesses, and even those who are on psychiatric medication may not always properly take it. Just my two cents.Yeah, you got to watch out for the psycho ones that come out during the full moon. It's like giving women the opportunity to speak her mind and regretting it when a flood of non sense comes your way. Things that were thought to be resolved many years ago, suddenly takes on a new life of emotional non sense.

When you're sleeping she might do the "Lorena" kitchen knife special on your ding dong and flush it down the toilet just to see you suffer for all the bad things done to her from previous dudes who fucked then left her hanging!

Larry Hoover
09-04-16, 03:11
So I set up an account with SA the other day. I've been writing different girls. Getting decent responses. I have several Meet and Greets set up. I'll report back and let you know how it goes. So far its been pretty interesting in that I seem to get far more responses than I ever did with AFF or AM and sites like that. The Richmond forum has a ton of reporting on it. I've been reading up. So far it seems that a low key no picture profile will work fine. Hopefully this won't be a huge time suck with no results.Definitely not a waste of time if you play your cards right. I now have a potential regular after our first encounter. Shit was awesome. Better than any pro I've seen over the past year at least.

Corvette808
10-14-16, 19:33
So I have had great luck with the seeking A. Site. I just was curious what other daddy's were paying by date / week? I have one baby who is 30. That can host and will let me do what ever I want when I Want for 600 a week. It's been a lot of fun. I just don't know if 600 a week is a good deal or not for a SB? She lets be BB greekCIA. Sleep over if I want and anything else you can think of. If I look at a sex / hour then it's sweet but I think for a baby I might be over paying. Thoughts comments or suggestions??

FlyingHawaii
10-14-16, 20:19
That is a lot of money but like you said if you fuck as much as you like its worth it, but $2400 a month is steep. I've hooked up with 7 girls so far in a one month membership. I got burnt on the first one but sex was great, she was hot and young. I met two others who are just looking for a dating thing without the hassles of having a serious gf and we go out for dinner hang out and make out. I also met two crazy ones who just want to fuck and suck cock for nothing in return. The girls I met are young and live with family so I either have to host or fuck in the car.


So I have had great luck with the seeking A. Site. I just was curious what other daddy's were paying by date / week? I have one baby who is 30. That can host and will let me do what ever I want when I Want for 600 a week. It's been a lot of fun. I just don't know if 600 a week is a good deal or not for a SB? She lets be BB greekCIA. Sleep over if I want and anything else you can think of. If I look at a sex / hour then it's sweet but I think for a baby I might be over paying. Thoughts comments or suggestions??

Patronizer
10-18-16, 01:08
That is a lot of money but like you said if you fuck as much as you like its worth it, but $2400 a month is steep. I've hooked up with 7 girls so far in a one month membership. I got burnt on the first one but sex was great, she was hot and young. I met two others who are just looking for a dating thing without the hassles of having a serious gf and we go out for dinner hang out and make out. I also met two crazy ones who just want to fuck and suck cock for nothing in return. The girls I met are young and live with family so I either have to host or fuck in the car.Let us talk in term of income, in order to have a take home net income of $2,400 a month you need to make at least $3,000 gross a month and $36,000 a year. Is it worth to pay a high prize for the dangerous game? (STD)? Social status? Re-think about this! And remember, girls in this kind business is for one purpose only "MONEY". Other things are all fake.

Kumuman
10-18-16, 17:43
So I have had great luck with the seeking A. Site. I just was curious what other daddy's were paying by date / week? I have one baby who is 30. That can host and will let me do what ever I want when I Want for 600 a week. It's been a lot of fun. I just don't know if 600 a week is a good deal or not for a SB? She lets be BB greekCIA. Sleep over if I want and anything else you can think of. If I look at a sex / hour then it's sweet but I think for a baby I might be over paying. Thoughts comments or suggestions??Anytime,

When you think about it, that's just 3 regular sessions per week at an AMP. (chicken fee for you) I'd take that deal in a heartbeat, phuck her 6 days a week (never on a Sunday) then move on but if she is a good lay, then hook up 2 weeks a month. But honestly, eventually would get tired of the same o same o unless she is a smoking young hottie.

Patronizer
10-18-16, 18:40
Anytime,

When you think about it, that's just 3 regular sessions per week at an AMP. (chicken fee for you) I'd take that deal in a heartbeat, phuck her 6 days a week (never on a Sunday) then move on but if she is a good lay, then hook up 2 weeks a month. But honestly, eventually would get tired of the same o same o unless she is a smoking young hottie.If I have that 2,400 to fool around I rather try 12 different girls with no obligation.

Idusixtyning
10-19-16, 20:18
So I have had great luck with the seeking A. Site. I just was curious what other daddy's were paying by date / week? I have one baby who is 30. That can host and will let me do what ever I want when I Want for 600 a week. It's been a lot of fun. I just don't know if 600 a week is a good deal or not for a SB? She lets be BB greekCIA. Sleep over if I want and anything else you can think of. If I look at a sex / hour then it's sweet but I think for a baby I might be over paying. Thoughts comments or suggestions??If she's hot looking and a good lover with GFE and you're fucking her at least 3 times a week, then it's worth it. Besides, you can cut it off anytime. One thing you might consider though is if she is doing this with other guys too at the same time (maybe with guys on different plans or even pay as you go). I think with SA arrangements, exclusivity is what makes them worthwhile. If she's fucking other guys then she's really an escort. Then it would be better to pay as you go.

SureYourRight
10-19-16, 23:35
So I have had great luck with the seeking A. Site. I just was curious what other daddy's were paying by date / week? I have one baby who is 30. That can host and will let me do what ever I want when I Want for 600 a week. It's been a lot of fun. I just don't know if 600 a week is a good deal or not for a SB? She lets be BB greekCIA. Sleep over if I want and anything else you can think of. If I look at a sex / hour then it's sweet but I think for a baby I might be over paying. Thoughts comments or suggestions??Average price for SB is 1 k to 5 k. I'd say for Hawaii you probably want about 2000 per month max (Unless she's a stacked perfect 10). It's a little on the High end but that's still pretty fair. Like another poster said it you are at least getting it 2-3 times a week (and it's just you) that's great. If she has other clients though that's probably a little steep. I wouldn't try to negotiate for a lower price though cause you know service will drop off completely until you eventually get fed up and leave. (She'd probably milk you as long as she could though until you did).

ExitOnly
10-20-16, 00:50
So I have had great luck with the seeking A. Site. I just was curious what other daddy's were paying by date / week? I have one baby who is 30. That can host and will let me do what ever I want when I Want for 600 a week. It's been a lot of fun. I just don't know if 600 a week is a good deal or not for a SB? She lets be BB greekCIA. Sleep over if I want and anything else you can think of. If I look at a sex / hour then it's sweet but I think for a baby I might be over paying. Thoughts comments or suggestions??I have had one who is a smoking hot early 30's korean that l paid $3000 per month plus other expenses. She don't let me do whatever l want like yours and not very GFE. She eventually upgraded to someone who pay her $5000 a month and moved to LA. It was a blessing in disguise for me. Sounds like you have a pretty good deal as long as you think she is hot. You don't have to deal with mama, walk of shame, uncle LEO, other mongers, STD and get to have sex in a private relax setting. Its like fantasy wife on demand. Remember to treat it like a business transaction. I know so many people who fell in love and lost everything.

SlappinBellies
10-20-16, 06:22
So I have had great luck with the seeking A. Site. I just was curious what other daddy's were paying by date / week? I have one baby who is 30. That can host and will let me do what ever I want when I Want for 600 a week. It's been a lot of fun. I just don't know if 600 a week is a good deal or not for a SB? She lets be BB greekCIA. Sleep over if I want and anything else you can think of. If I look at a sex / hour then it's sweet but I think for a baby I might be over paying. Thoughts comments or suggestions??Analyze it by looking at the number of times you have sex with her during the week then compare that to a massage parlor visit. I know some girls under 22 are charging 3 bills while others for two bills.

I would think its a pretty sweet deal if you were having sex with her 4 times a week, 3 times a week your generous to her and 2 times a week getting kind of expensive.

Redneck 1
10-20-16, 10:21
I would rather spend differently.

If I have that 2,400 to fool around I rather try 12 different girls with no obligation.That was also my first thought. For the amount that the original poster is paying, a monger could enjoy a variety of at least 12 different providers per month, about one every 2.5 days. Yet on the other hand, this provider is permitting him to "do whatever I want," including BBCIA Greek, which many providers won't allow. Nonetheless, many mongers would eventually tire of being with the same provider over and over and over again, night after night after night, regardless of how accommodating she may be. So perhaps after he's sufficiently enjoyed every sexual activity she offers, multiple times, he may want to try to convert the $600-per-week payment into a reasonable per-session payment. That could enable him to reduce the cost but still continue to see her now and then, along with a variety of other providers.

Goser
10-20-16, 12:13
That was also my first thought. For the amount that the original poster is paying, a monger could enjoy a variety of at least 12 different providers per month, about one every 2.5 days. Yet on the other hand, this provider is permitting him to "do whatever I want," including BBCIA Greek, which many providers won't allow. Nonetheless, many mongers would eventually tire of being with the same provider over and over and over again, night after night after night, regardless of how accommodating she may be. So perhaps after he's sufficiently enjoyed every sexual activity she offers, multiple times, he may want to try to convert the $600-per-week payment into a reasonable per-session payment. That could enable him to reduce the cost but still continue to see her now and then, along with a variety of other providers.A Sugarbaby is only $2400 per month? She can't live on that if you are her only client. I would love that for the right girl knowing that she is exclusive to me. I don't see it for less than $5000 per month. Maybe $10,000.

Poiuy2
10-20-16, 14:31
Besides the ability to have variety versus getting any action you desire and for more than an hour, you may get some GFE that the AMPs don't always offer. But 3 Gs is way too much IMHO. I would do it for a month and move on. I've had freebies from MTs and a couple of AMP girls, but after a few sessions, it gets a little mundane. I kept seeing them longer Thani wanted just because it was free. Then I eventually ended up back at the AMPs seeking hotter girls.

I registered for SA and got a bunch of inquiries. But after scanning the rest, I couldn't say the girls were hotter than some of the AMP girls. But teho. It's the thrill of the seek and the thrill of the challenge. Just like KBGs. They are rip off, but satisfying when you get action.

Cr Ronaldo
10-20-16, 15:11
I am really surprised with many of you providing allowance and the SBs showing up for their scheduled dates. My experience with SBs from the mainland are many of them are way too entitled and believe that we are paying just to be seen with them, there is no intimacy or they get their allowance and all of sudden they become way to busy to see you. You guys are in a unique situation here in HNL as there are many other means to get your nut, but the allure of getting a SB for your own fantasies is very powerful. I have had a few short arrangements, but my best was a 18 yr old dancer who was a handful, but the sex out was out of this world.

Many of my arrangements are PPM (Pay per meet) as I think it keeps both parties honest. There are just too many scammers and rinsers and ladies with GPS (golden pussy syndrome) , fake Sds that want a free test drive that SDs and SBs usually start at a ppm and allowance can happen when trust is established. As a comment on what is high / low it really depends on the SB, but I say $300-$400 would be an average per meet.

SlappinBellies
10-21-16, 06:55
I am really surprised with many of you providing allowance and the SBs showing up for their scheduled dates. My experience with SBs from the mainland are many of them are way too entitled and believe that we are paying just to be seen with them, there is no intimacy or they get their allowance and all of sudden they become way to busy to see you. You guys are in a unique situation here in HNL as there are many other means to get your nut, but the allure of getting a SB for your own fantasies is very powerful. I have had a few short arrangements, but my best was a 18 yr old dancer who was a handful, but the sex out was out of this world.

Many of my arrangements are PPM (Pay per meet) as I think it keeps both parties honest. There are just too many scammers and rinsers and ladies with GPS (golden pussy syndrome) , fake Sds that want a free test drive that SDs and SBs usually start at a ppm and allowance can happen when trust is established. As a comment on what is high / low it really depends on the SB, but I say $300-$400 would be an average per meet.Is there a reason that surprises you? What part of the mainland are you from that you have those experiences? Also, what makes HNL any different from Chicago, Miami, San Diego, Dallas, Atlanta. Las Vegas, New York. Its all the same. Pay for play is very similar all over the world. In Honolulu, you can find SB's all over. You just need to know where to look and who to talk to.

Kumuman
10-21-16, 16:35
I am really surprised with many of you providing allowance and the SBs showing up for their scheduled dates. My experience with SBs from the mainland are many of them are way too entitled and believe that we are paying just to be seen with them, there is no intimacy or they get their allowance and all of sudden they become way to busy to see you. You guys are in a unique situation here in HNL as there are many other means to get your nut, but the allure of getting a SB for your own fantasies is very powerful. I have had a few short arrangements, but my best was a 18 yr old dancer who was a handful, but the sex out was out of this world.

Many of my arrangements are PPM (Pay per meet) as I think it keeps both parties honest. There are just too many scammers and rinsers and ladies with GPS (golden pussy syndrome) , fake Sds that want a free test drive that SDs and SBs usually start at a ppm and allowance can happen when trust is established. As a comment on what is high / low it really depends on the SB, but I say $300-$400 would be an average per meet.Back in the day, I was flying to vegas 1 -2 times a month to see my sb, a legit 19-21 year old college hottie. My donation was 1 g for the weekend and this lasted for 2 years. She was worth all that and more, damn I still dream of her pink pulsating pussy and how hard her pink nipples would get before she would cum. And when she cums, her whole body would go into a spasm and her screams would have to be muffled by a pillow. The only downfall with her is she could only cum 2 times in an 1/12 hour span and then needed to rest for at least 3-4 hours before she could go again. In the beginning we'd make love 3 times a day but eventually ended up being morning and night cause she would be too exhausted. This girl was smart, mature and a total 10 across the board. After she graduated, instead of finding a job she ended up being a full time sb. She would charge 800 an hour just to be an "eye candy" companion for dinner or convention dates. She once showed me her list of regulars which included a famous LA Lakers BB player, a nascar driver, hockey player. I once asked her,"you let that 6'9" bb players big dick in you " and she said hell no. They pay only for eye candy services. Eventually though, like with the casinos, my luck went unlucky. She hooked up with a millionaire businessman from LA that was donating 10 g for the weekend and he would come up 3 times a month, shutting me out of the picture. I even took off work some to go on the week days but eventually had to end at the risk of losing my job. The last I heard from her she retired from the business at the ripe age of 28, moved back to Arizona and started a legit financial consulting business (with the help of her millionaire SD). I'm sure she has lots of wealthy client accounts, making money of their money but in a different way haha.

Jnglepen
10-22-16, 10:09
Figured I'd check this shit out on a whim. The seeking A. Site Corvette mentioned. Made an account, and exchanged a few messages. At first, activity was pretty dead. I added pic and updated profile. I even paid to upgrade the account.

I was surprised how much interest I got, was getting bites with girls wanting to meet up for coffee dates and exchange numbers. Anyhow, I go to log into my account today and the shit says it has been deleted. WTF. I messaged customer service.

Did some research on the company and they have a history for doing messed up shit like that.

No refund policy, can delete your account at any time for any reason LOL. Funny thing is, I HONESTLY didn't do anything crazy, literally just exchanged messages. Didn't "ask" for anything. Just a little chat and setting up dates.

I doubt customer service will give a shit.

I'm pissed I spent the money.

But even more pissed because I had atleast 6 dates in the bag and all their contact information was on the account.

Would not recommend this BS; it was really fun while it lasted because of the possibilities and the hunt but I'd rather just see my damn regulars or go out on the weekends.

Mac.

Jnglepen
10-22-16, 10:09
Figured I'd check this shit out on a whim. The seeking A. Site Corvette mentioned. Made an account, and exchanged a few messages. At first, activity was pretty dead. I added pic and updated profile. I even paid to upgrade the account.

I was surprised how much interest I got, was getting bites with girls wanting to meet up for coffee dates and exchange numbers. Anyhow, I go to log into my account today and the shit says it has been deleted. WTF. I messaged customer service.

Did some research on the company and they have a history for doing messed up shit like that.

No refund policy, can delete your account at any time for any reason LOL. Funny thing is, I HONESTLY didn't do anything crazy, literally just exchanged messages. Didn't "ask" for anything. Just a little chat and setting up dates.

I doubt customer service will give a shit.

I'm pissed I spent the money.

But even more pissed because I had atleast 6 dates in the bag and all their contact information was on the account.

Would not recommend this BS; it was really fun while it lasted because of the possibilities and the hunt but I'd rather just see my damn regulars or go out on the weekends.

Mac.

John HandCock
10-22-16, 12:53
Figured I'd check this shit out on a whim. The seeking A. Site Corvette mentioned. Made an account, and exchanged a few messages. At first, activity was pretty dead. I added pic and updated profile. I even paid to upgrade the account.

I was surprised how much interest I got, was getting bites with girls wanting to meet up for coffee dates and exchange numbers. Anyhow, I go to log into my account today and the shit says it has been deleted. WTF. I messaged customer service.

Did some research on the company and they have a history for doing messed up shit like that.

No refund policy, can delete your account at any time for any reason LOL. Funny thing is, I HONESTLY didn't do anything crazy, literally just exchanged messages. Didn't "ask" for anything. Just a little chat and setting up dates.

I doubt customer service will give a shit.

I'm pissed I spent the money.

But even more pissed because I had atleast 6 dates in the bag and all their contact information was on the account.

Would not recommend this BS; it was really fun while it lasted because of the possibilities and the hunt but I'd rather just see my damn regulars or go out on the weekends.

Mac.If your talking the seeking arrangement (SA) site I have been a member for over 4 years and your the first I've ever heard off getting bounced. To be bounced from there you would have to been reported for your profile or some type of extreme message to a member that was really offensive. Your the first that I've heard get bounced. Alot of guys get blocked by members for something they don't appreciate but bounced is very rare.

Incogfilipino
10-22-16, 18:50
My friend had a good experience on that seekinga site and told me to try it. So many spam emails and they really set it up so you have to pay. I'm pretty sure most of the "girls" messaging me were bots just to entice me to pay for membership. Either way, not really my cup of tea to begin with.

Jnglepen
10-22-16, 21:35
My friend had a good experience on that seekinga site and told me to try it. So many spam emails and they really set it up so you have to pay. I'm pretty sure most of the "girls" messaging me were bots just to entice me to pay for membership. Either way, not really my cup of tea to begin with.They weren't bots; I know what a conversation with a bot is like. You are right though, it is rigged so you HAVE to pay to play. Did it for shits and giggles. Potential there. Shitty service.

Incogfilipino
10-23-16, 17:03
They weren't bots; I know what a conversation with a bot is like. You are right though, it is rigged so you HAVE to pay to play. Did it for shits and giggles. Potential there. Shitty service.I couldn't see the messages since I didn't bother to pay. I suspected they were bots since they literally messaged me seconds after signing up, without even filling out much information and no picture.

Larry Hoover
11-08-16, 02:30
I couldn't see the messages since I didn't bother to pay. I suspected they were bots since they literally messaged me seconds after signing up, without even filling out much information and no picture.Oh there are some very real girls on there. Trust me on that.

UlanFan
11-08-16, 11:30
My friend had a good experience on that seekinga site and told me to try it. So many spam emails and they really set it up so you have to pay. I'm pretty sure most of the "girls" messaging me were bots just to entice me to pay for membership. Either way, not really my cup of tea to begin with.I just checked it out. Holy crap 99 a month! I'd pay to play if it was 20 or 30 but 99 no way. I've got a bunch of messages but no one local yet just random girls from everywhere but Hawaii.

Larry Hoover
11-09-16, 16:48
I just checked it out. Holy crap 99 a month! I'd pay to play if it was 20 or 30 but 99 no way. I've got a bunch of messages but no one local yet just random girls from everywhere but Hawaii.They raised the prices, probably because it's gaining in popularity. They have an app that has an option to pay for a week for maybe $30 I want to say. If you can't at least get a phone number in a week, your game sucks. I smashed one in less than a week of signing up for premium. Or just ask customer support if they have deals or something.

John HandCock
11-09-16, 18:07
I just checked it out. Holy crap 99 a month! I'd pay to play if it was 20 or 30 but 99 no way. I've got a bunch of messages but no one local yet just random girls from everywhere but Hawaii.They must have just raised it. Your the first that has mentioned it. I signed up around the 15th last month and monthly membership was still $70.

Larry Hoover
11-10-16, 00:59
They must have just raised it. Your the first that has mentioned it. I signed up around the 15th last month and monthly membership was still $70.Scored any good ones yet? I swear it's easier than regular mongering.

BotoMoco
11-24-16, 11:07
Scored any good ones yet? I swear it's easier than regular mongering.Hey Larry. Can you tell me what the name of the website is? I'd like to try this thing out. Aloha.

FutSniffA
12-01-16, 23:10
I joined the other day to see what the hoopla was all about and the price was $79 with some discount that brought it back to $53 or so. I can say it's very interesting to say the least. I had offers from three or four the first night. Some are straight up working girls and some are dream chasers. I guess they see the movies and think guys are really willing to fly them to Paris and not expect sex. So far I've gotten five #s and meet two. I ended up banging a cute Mexican last night for only $100. I would say I'm happy with the results of the $53 sign-up fee so far.

John HandCock
12-02-16, 01:51
I joined the other day to see what the hoopla was all about and the price was $79 with some discount that brought it back to $53 or so. I can say it's very interesting to say the least. I had offers from three or four the first night. Some are straight up working girls and some are dream chasers. I guess they see the movies and think guys are really willing to fly them to Paris and not expect sex. So far I've gotten five #s and meet two. I ended up banging a cute Mexican last night for only $100. I would say I'm happy with the results of the $53 sign-up fee so far.Post the link to that discount. I haven't found one in awhile.

FutSniffA
12-02-16, 12:56
Post the link to that discount. I haven't found one in awhile.There was no link. It took it out at the end.

FutSniffA
12-11-16, 06:05
So I've been on SA two weeks now and I must say I enjoy it better than the AMPs. It's a bit of a hassle dealing with the flakes but there are some real gems there. I'm no Brad Pitt and I've meet 5 in two weeks. I banged three so far. This can be pricy but I think it's still about what I spend at AMPs. My experience is the going rates or allowances as its called there is about $200 per visit. The one from tonight was super hot. Nice thick thighs and ass like I crave. She said she started out at the hostess bars then stripping now this.

BotoMoco
12-13-16, 10:56
So I've been on SA two weeks now and I must say I enjoy it better than the AMPs. It's a bit of a hassle dealing with the flakes but there are some real gems there. I'm no Brad Pitt and I've meet 5 in two weeks. I banged three so far. This can be pricy but I think it's still about what I spend at AMPs. My experience is the going rates or allowances as its called there is about $200 per visit. The one from tonight was super hot. Nice thick thighs and ass like I crave. She said she started out at the hostess bars then stripping now this.I totally agree with you. I doubt if I will visit an AMP again. These girls are not run down like a hot provider at an AMP. I'm fairly new to the site and have scored a bunch of these hotties too. You get what you pay for sometimes but I'm a happy cat right now.

RedRaze
12-13-16, 15:15
Can someone Pm a link to me?

Thank you in advance!

Raze.

Lonely Smiles
12-13-16, 15:56
Post the link to that discount. I haven't found one in awhile.Sometimes these kinds of pay sites will offer a discount after you have been a member for a few months and go to unsubscribe. I've occasionally had paid subscriptions in the past for adult content. Pretty much without fail, I've been offered deep discounts to stay.

For example, one time I paid for a Twistys subscription for a few months. At the time, running $30 per month. When I went to leave, they offered me two discounts, the 2ND offer down to $9. 99 per month. Same thing when I tried out Erito for exclusive JAV content. But 95% of that stuff is available for free now.

I've also tried adultfriendfinder, albeit for only 2 months. When I unsubbed, I was offered a discount as well. I did get a date and a couple of flakes, but by and large it was a waste of time and money. In my experience, unless you are tall, over 5'10"( I'm a shorter guy in good shape and many profiles have condecending messages like "If you are not over X height, don't even waste my time."), handsome, and willing to play the numbers game of sending of dozens of messages in hopes of a handful of real replies, you may have a difficult time connecting with attractive women on AFF. Law of large numbers. Guys out number women like 20 to 1, so the attractive gals are often inundated and jaded. The woman I went out on a date with from AFF was entitled with an attitude like she was doing me a favor and straight up crazy.

Sounds like SA may be different from all the guys relaying success stories. Amazing the difference $$ makes when it comes to sex, makes up for a multitude of imperfections lol.

So if you do pay full Monty for SA, try deactivating after a while, will likely get a discount offer.

APrivateLife
12-13-16, 21:30
Sorry about that but you get the point. I've been on sa and aff for a while and have found a mixed bag. Sa is better than aff in my experience, there are definitely real people on the sa site. I hardly ever get a reply to messages on aff and wouldn't waste time there unless you like looking at pics and watching videos. Then again, maybe aff is more about swinging couples, which I am not.

I live on a small outer island so pickings are slim for me. Sa has helped connect me to a couple of nice women here and for those occasional trips to the city. I've also used it to scope out other places I've visited and had success.

Generally speaking and in my experience, not pros but definitely real women with needs (of one sort or another) on sa, and your mileage will vary depending on who you select. It does take time to separate the wheat from the chaff so if your spontaneous or in a rush then probably better to stick to AMP's or BP, this site won't work well for you. However, if you're willing to put in the time and conduct the market research and to clearly articulate your rules of engagement. I've found sa to be a very rewarding experience. Worth the fee in my opinion.

FutSniffA
12-13-16, 23:03
Sometimes these kinds of pay sites will offer a discount after you have been a member for a few months and go to unsubscribe. I've occasionally had paid subscriptions in the past for adult content. Pretty much without fail, I've been offered deep discounts to stay.

For example, one time I paid for a Twistys subscription for a few months. At the time, running $30 per month. When I went to leave, they offered me two discounts, the 2ND offer down to $9. 99 per month. Same thing when I tried out Erito for exclusive JAV content. But 95% of that stuff is available for free now.

I've also tried adultfriendfinder, albeit for only 2 months. When I unsubbed, I was offered a discount as well. I did get a date and a couple of flakes, but by and large it was a waste of time and money. In my experience, unless you are tall, over 5'10"( I'm a shorter guy in good shape and many profiles have condecending messages like "If you are not over X height, don't even waste my time."), handsome, and willing to play the numbers game of sending of dozens of messages in hopes of a handful of real replies, you may have a difficult time connecting with attractive women on AFF. Law of large numbers. Guys out number women like 20 to 1, so the attractive gals are often inundated and jaded. The woman I went out on a date with from AFF was entitled with an attitude like she was doing me a favor and straight up crazy.

Sounds like SA may be different from all the guys relaying success stories. Amazing the difference $$ makes when it comes to sex, makes up for a multitude of imperfections lol.

So if you do pay full Monty for SA, try deactivating after a while, will likely get a discount offer.Hhaha man you're right. I'm a stud when the wallet opens.

BotoMoco
12-14-16, 11:45
I am leary of recommending anybody in case it could be viewed as promoting etc. I know I got some Pm but sorry guys I'm just paranoid about all of this. My recommendation to you is to sign up because you won't be disappointed. I know you will find someone on that hit list. I'm happy and will take a break from the MPs till I get bored of this. I can tell you this tho. These girls are way more fresh than any of the popular providers you're seeing at the MP. Don't get me wrong I used to bang those hot ones all the time but it gets to mechanical after awhile. With these girls its more personal to me. My two cents anyway. Happy hunting.

FutSniffA
12-15-16, 21:31
I am leary of recommending anybody in case it could be viewed as promoting etc. I know I got some Pm but sorry guys I'm just paranoid about all of this. My recommendation to you is to sign up because you won't be disappointed. I know you will find someone on that hit list. I'm happy and will take a break from the MPs till I get bored of this. I can tell you this tho. These girls are way more fresh than any of the popular providers you're seeing at the MP. Don't get me wrong I used to bang those hot ones all the time but it gets to mechanical after awhile. With these girls its more personal to me. My two cents anyway. Happy hunting.Seems like you took the words out of my mouth. Some have Pm'd me asking for "things" and I didn't want to be a jerk by telling them there is no such thing. Just because I hit it off with a particular girl doesn't mean you will and vice versa. The difference between AMPs and SA is connections and the thrill of the hunt. AMPs are like shooting fish in a barrel IMO.

Blake123
12-17-16, 08:32
So... Lemme get this straight...SA stands for Sugarbaby Arrangements or Sugardaddy Arrangements or something else??? Better yet, what is the URL for SA? I must check this out, based on all these reviews. Mahalo.

Member #5810
12-17-16, 09:41
So... Lemme get this straight...SA stands for Sugarbaby Arrangements or Sugardaddy Arrangements or something else??? Better yet, what is the URL for SA? I must check this out, based on all these reviews. Mahalo.It's seeking arrangements. I actually signed up and I no shit you it works! Expensive though but if you spend the time to put up a decent profile and aren't fugly then it does work. Better looking you are the more hits you'll get. Pretty amazing actually.

Blake123
12-18-16, 04:21
It's seeking arrangements. I actually signed up and I no shit you it works! Expensive though but if you spend the time to put up a decent profile and aren't fugly then it does work. Better looking you are the more hits you'll get. Pretty amazing actually.Thanks much for the info!

RedZhp
12-20-16, 05:52
So after using SA since the summer, I'm starting to prefer it over AMP and even top flight visiting providers.

To keep it short and simple, it's more of a "game" and you feel like you're in the hunt a lot more. As anything, there are a lot of crap, but I've met more than a handful of hot young girls with great attitude and enjoy the game just as much as I do. The "arrangement" feels like an afterthought most times. The downside is it's more time consuming to play the game, but like I said I enjoy the gamesmanship of it. You might not think it's worth the price of admission if the hunt isn't your cup of tea or if you realistically can't put that much time into it.

It definitely helps to not be creepy, the girls all echo that sentiment.

FutSniffA
12-22-16, 07:15
Ok so I'm three weeks in and I have one week left on this subscription. I'm on the fence about doing another month. I have about 10 #s and I've meet seven girls so far and banged four.

Girls so far.

24 Flip / White mix 5. 4 120 nice kinky girl BBBJ / GREEK 1 visit $250.

-25 Mexican 5. 1 120 BDSM type slapping / spanking / BBBJ no GREEK 1 visit $100.

22 Local mix plate 5. 4 super athletic BBBJWS / Great fuck 3 visit at $150 per.

19 Mix Asian / Black / something else. Super tight and kinky too. BBBJ / wRIM / GREEK attempt / swallowed and she's into girls 1 visit (so far) $300.

I've spent $1100 for six visits to my place. I think SA is worth it if you're collecting contact info within the first month and actually meeting girls. I think the biggest thing I've noticed is all these girls have a price for sex and money AND sex is their motivators. I went into this thinking all they wanted was cash from some old guy and I was surprised and wrong. I'll update next week.

Member #5810
12-22-16, 08:52
Ok so I'm three weeks in and I have one week left on this subscription. I'm on the fence about doing another month. I have about 10 #s and I've meet seven girls so far and banged four.

Girls so far.

24 Flip / White mix 5. 4 120 nice kinky girl BBBJ / GREEK 1 visit $250.

-25 Mexican 5. 1 120 BDSM type slapping / spanking / BBBJ no GREEK 1 visit $100.

22 Local mix plate 5. 4 super athletic BBBJWS / Great fuck 3 visit at $150 per.

19 Mix Asian / Black / something else. Super tight and kinky too. BBBJ / wRIM / GREEK attempt / swallowed and she's into girls 1 visit (so far) $300.

I've spent $1100 for six visits to my place. I think SA is worth it if you're collecting contact info within the first month and actually meeting girls. I think the biggest thing I've noticed is all these girls have a price for sex and money AND sex is their motivators. I went into this thinking all they wanted was cash from some old guy and I was surprised and wrong. I'll update next week.Great to hear! I didn't upgrade yet since Christmas time but I have been favorited by 6 girls and have a bunch of messages I can't read till you upgrade.

If you don't mind can you PM me the screen name of the 24 Flip mix girl so I can search her out. Local. Mix plate sounds good too if you want to share.

Much mahalos for your reports.

UlanFan
12-22-16, 11:31
Ok so I'm three weeks in and I have one week left on this subscription. I'm on the fence about doing another month. I have about 10 #s and I've meet seven girls so far and banged four.

Girls so far.

24 Flip / White mix 5. 4 120 nice kinky girl BBBJ / GREEK 1 visit $250.

-25 Mexican 5. 1 120 BDSM type slapping / spanking / BBBJ no GREEK 1 visit $100.

22 Local mix plate 5. 4 super athletic BBBJWS / Great fuck 3 visit at $150 per.

19 Mix Asian / Black / something else. Super tight and kinky too. BBBJ / wRIM / GREEK attempt / swallowed and she's into girls 1 visit (so far) $300.

I've spent $1100 for six visits to my place. I think SA is worth it if you're collecting contact info within the first month and actually meeting girls. I think the biggest thing I've noticed is all these girls have a price for sex and money AND sex is their motivators. I went into this thinking all they wanted was cash from some old guy and I was surprised and wrong. I'll update next week.Sounds good. I tried but did not subscribe. Do any girls host? I go to AMPs because I cannot host. I tried tinder but most girls don't host and wanted me to get a hotel room, which just adds an extra cost and extra hassle. A girl that hosts would be awesome.

Hinode
12-22-16, 11:51
Ok so I'm three weeks in and I have one week left on this subscription. I'm on the fence about doing another month. I have about 10 #s and I've meet seven girls so far and banged four.

Girls so far.

24 Flip / White mix 5. 4 120 nice kinky girl BBBJ / GREEK 1 visit $250.

-25 Mexican 5. 1 120 BDSM type slapping / spanking / BBBJ no GREEK 1 visit $100.

22 Local mix plate 5. 4 super athletic BBBJWS / Great fuck 3 visit at $150 per.

19 Mix Asian / Black / something else. Super tight and kinky too. BBBJ / wRIM / GREEK attempt / swallowed and she's into girls 1 visit (so far) $300.

I've spent $1100 for six visits to my place. I think SA is worth it if you're collecting contact info within the first month and actually meeting girls. I think the biggest thing I've noticed is all these girls have a price for sex and money AND sex is their motivators. I went into this thinking all they wanted was cash from some old guy and I was surprised and wrong. I'll update next week.Cherry bu. Wish I could partake. Sounds like super fun with young, hot, non pros. Only can dream of doing that. Mahalo for the report!

Vino1111
12-22-16, 14:56
Can you post link?

Mahalo.

Redneck 1
12-22-16, 19:15
Sa

Can you post link?

Mahalo.Here you go: http://www.seekingarrangement.com.

UlanFan
12-24-16, 18:12
Jumped into SA. Yes, there are a lot of young hot girls on there. I've got a few messages and replied to a few. I like to cut to the chase but the girls (at least the ones I'm talking with) play like this is a dating app and not an app to arrange a mutual beneficial arrangement! I want sex in exchange for cash, I'm not looking for a movie, hiking or dinner date. If I come out and say that I want to pay them for sex it will spook them. What's the best way to cut through all the vague replies. Donations for time, doesn't do it for me either I want it understood what the expectations are before agreeing to meet. I'm not giving a woman 200 for stimulating conversation.

RedZhp
12-25-16, 06:47
Most don't host but some do. I also can't host, so I get the hotel. For me that adds to the experience tho, mini taboo staycation of you will. But yeah it's an added cost to consider for those of us that can't host.


Sounds good. I tried but did not subscribe. Do any girls host? I go to AMPs because I cannot host. I tried tinder but most girls don't host and wanted me to get a hotel room, which just adds an extra cost and extra hassle. A girl that hosts would be awesome.

John HandCock
12-25-16, 11:18
Jumped into SA. Yes, there are a lot of young hot girls on there. I've got a few messages and replied to a few. I like to cut to the chase but the girls (at least the ones I'm talking with) play like this is a dating app and not an app to arrange a mutual beneficial arrangement! I want sex in exchange for cash, I'm not looking for a movie, hiking or dinner date. If I come out and say that I want to pay them for sex it will spook them. What's the best way to cut through all the vague replies. Donations for time, doesn't do it for me either I want it understood what the expectations are before agreeing to meet. I'm not giving a woman 200 for stimulating conversation.Lots of girls make good coin just being arm candy. Most girls know what's expected so just move on to the next girl. Plenty of girls to chose from. Most usually the arm candy, online arrangement girls state this in their profile. If so don't waste your time messaging or answering their messages. Oh also not everyone on there is a escort so some need to be eased into this rather than being treated as an escort.

FutSniffA
12-25-16, 15:04
I'll try to clarify my take on SA more. I've received several PMs from guys asking for "sure things". First off, I would hope you guys understand that just because a lady and myself hit it off that doesn't mean you and her will. I won't share usernames of the girls without me asking them first.

Secondly, you guys should understand that AMP / Bargirls (although there is quite a bit on here) have a different mentality. AMP girls know that sex is their job. SA girls don't yet. The younger girls get into this for money most of the time so if you accept this going into it you're less likely to be disappointed. This comes down to basic situation awareness.

You must be willing to be patient and weed out the gold diggers. Here are a couple of my rules when deciding who to meet.

1. Never pay them just to meet you.

2. Always stay within your budget.

3. Be careful what you say on the site (they monitor PMs).

4. Don't come off creepy (this will be hard for some of you on this board).

5. Don't ask them shit like "if I give you x $s will you do this or that".

6. Some girls are simply not looking for what I am and that's fine. I wish them good luck and move on.

7. I never talk about the other girls with them. I don't say "well Jane Doe fucked me for x amount, why won't you". This is another reason I don't share user names. I don't want one of you messing up my finds by asking for the same thing I got. After all, this is supposed to be discreet for most of them.

ClintonPortis
12-25-16, 15:51
I'll try to clarify my take on SA more. I've received several PMs from guys asking for "sure things". First off, I would hope you guys understand that just because a lady and myself hit it off that doesn't mean you and her will. I won't share usernames of the girls without me asking them first.

Secondly, you guys should understand that AMP / Bargirls (although there is quite a bit on here) have a different mentality. AMP girls know that sex is their job. SA girls don't yet. The younger girls get into this for money most of the time so if you accept this going into it you're less likely to be disappointed. This comes down to basic situation awareness.

You must be willing to be patient and weed out the gold diggers. Here are a couple of my rules when deciding who to meet.

1. Never pay them just to meet you.

2. Always stay within your budget.

3. Be careful what you say on the site (they monitor PMs).

4. Don't come off creepy (this will be hard for some of you on this board).

5. Don't ask them shit like "if I give you x $s will you do this or that".

6. Some girls are simply not looking for what I am and that's fine. I wish them good luck and move on.

7. I never talk about the other girls with them. I don't say "well Jane Doe fucked me for x amount, why won't you". This is another reason I don't share user names. I don't want one of you messing up my finds by asking for the same thing I got. After all, this is supposed to be discreet for most of them.But I think an important variable here are the characteristics of the guys getting these successful results. Are you tall, medium, or short? What race are you? Do you look like Harrison Ford or Danny Devito? Do you have an ok "dad bod" or are you carrying out too many spare tires or are you still packing washboard abs? I think this information might help all those mongers who are PMing you get a better feel as to their potential in replicating your results. After all, if you're an older version of Jason Momoa, all of the mongers PMing won't stand a chance of attaining the same results! LOL.

RedZhp
12-25-16, 18:28
Great explanation. Couldn't agree more. I find it really is much closer to tinder than AMP or even Indy escorts in terms of how you approach the game.


I'll try to clarify my take on SA more. I've received several PMs from guys asking for "sure things". First off, I would hope you guys understand that just because a lady and myself hit it off that doesn't mean you and her will. I won't share usernames of the girls without me asking them first.

Secondly, you guys should understand that AMP / Bargirls (although there is quite a bit on here) have a different mentality. AMP girls know that sex is their job. SA girls don't yet. The younger girls get into this for money most of the time so if you accept this going into it you're less likely to be disappointed. This comes down to basic situation awareness.

You must be willing to be patient and weed out the gold diggers. Here are a couple of my rules when deciding who to meet.

1. Never pay them just to meet you.

2. Always stay within your budget.

3. Be careful what you say on the site (they monitor PMs).

4. Don't come off creepy (this will be hard for some of you on this board).

5. Don't ask them shit like "if I give you x $s will you do this or that".

6. Some girls are simply not looking for what I am and that's fine. I wish them good luck and move on.

7. I never talk about the other girls with them. I don't say "well Jane Doe fucked me for x amount, why won't you". This is another reason I don't share user names. I don't want one of you messing up my finds by asking for the same thing I got. After all, this is supposed to be discreet for most of them.

SlappinBellies
12-25-16, 19:30
Jumped into SA. Yes, there are a lot of young hot girls on there. I've got a few messages and replied to a few. I like to cut to the chase but the girls (at least the ones I'm talking with) play like this is a dating app and not an app to arrange a mutual beneficial arrangement! I want sex in exchange for cash, I'm not looking for a movie, hiking or dinner date. If I come out and say that I want to pay them for sex it will spook them. What's the best way to cut through all the vague replies. Donations for time, doesn't do it for me either I want it understood what the expectations are before agreeing to meet. I'm not giving a woman 200 for stimulating conversation.Be creative in your requests for what you want in exchange for what they need. Once you have figured that out it shortens the time you waste on useless conversation.

FutSniffA
12-25-16, 21:52
But I think an important variable here are the characteristics of the guys getting these successful results. Are you tall, medium, or short? What race are you? Do you look like Harrison Ford or Danny Devito? Do you have an ok "dad bod" or are you carrying out too many spare tires or are you still packing washboard abs? I think this information might help all those mongers who are PMing you get a better feel as to their potential in replicating your results. After all, if you're an older version of Jason Momoa, all of the mongers PMing won't stand a chance of attaining the same results! LOL.I think I mentioned below that I'm no Brad Pitt. I don't think any of the ones I've banged would bang me for free if that helps LOL.

UlanFan
12-25-16, 22:25
OK so I just happened to talk to a woman last night that was wanting to hook up right away. She also lived close by and could host so it was a win win. It was a Christmas Eve miracle.

Like the other poster I am no Brad Pitt. I'm fit and have been called good looking. Like the previous poster, it is highly unlikely this hottie would have given me the time of day, let alone invited to her home for sex, for free!

She strikes me as a pro, she got right down to business, we exchanged numbers, we talked and then she agreed to meet me at a nearby SB. We had some chemistry, she was flirty and I put my hand on her arm and then knee and she didn't pull away. So we were cool so I went to her place. I won't lie, I was nervous, is this a set up, am I going to get jumped? But no, it was totally cool.

GFE, BBBJ, CFS, finger in ass OK but no anal sex (this time). Hot girl, seemed to enjoy herself and wanted several positions. There was no rush for time, no clock. I was there for longer than an hour. Afterwards, she offered me a beer and some 420, I accepted the beer, declined the 420. Hung out while she smoked and had a good time. I paid $250 it was worth it for the no rush environment and GFE.

I've met a few different types on SA.

The Pro, theses are the ones I like. They get right down to business and it's pay to play.

The Princess, I don't like these girls. They think they deserve an allowance for company. They want trips and lavish gifts. They have this delusion that they are not prostitutes, rather they are young entrepreneurial woman seeeking a mentor and enhanced life experiences. Whatever.

The Rookie, I'm talking to one now, sweet girl, she's a college kid trying to stay out of debt. A bit shy but who knows maybe I'll meet up with her later this week. I don't really have an opinion on the rookie yet, only that they tend to think this is more of a dating app than sex app.

Personally, I'm staying away from the princess and I'll probably steer clear of most rookies. The pros are my best option because there is no confusion we both know what the app is for, why we are talking and why we agreed to meet.

Yes. As stated never pay for a screening meeting, only paid for an agreed upon sexual encounter and only pay when you are done. I paid before I jumped in her shower to wash up before leaving. She was super cool, I'd repeat without an issue.

BoobsMcghee
12-25-16, 23:25
Be creative in your requests for what you want in exchange for what they needExamples??

UlanFan
12-25-16, 23:40
Examples??Arrrrgh! It's so painful being vague but this is what worked for me. Common opening from a woman is, "what are your expectations. ".

I said, I am looking to spend some quality time with a beautiful woman. One that will be mutually beneficial, my needs will be fulfilled and I will generously compensate her for her time.

That seems to be vague enough to not spook them. Seriously, I just want to say sex for cash!

Once I got the phone number things progressed and things got more specific. After my membership I'll probably go back to AMP it's just easier.

Kaina2076
12-26-16, 04:42
CNN just did an episode on the subject of sugar daddies / sugar babies. It's part of a series by Journalist Lisa Ling called Living Life; Sugar Daddies / Sugar Babies. She features the Seeking Arrangements site and even interviews the founder of the site. Search Lisa Ling Living Life on You Tube to watch. Title of episode is Sugar Daddies / Sugar Babies.

Member #5810
12-26-16, 05:33
But I think an important variable here are the characteristics of the guys getting these successful results. Are you tall, medium, or short? What race are you? Do you look like Harrison Ford or Danny Devito? Do you have an ok "dad bod" or are you carrying out too many spare tires or are you still packing washboard abs? I think this information might help all those mongers who are PMing you get a better feel as to their potential in replicating your results. After all, if you're an older version of Jason Momoa, all of the mongers PMing won't stand a chance of attaining the same results! LOL.Very good point and very true. Modestly speaking I'm closer to Harrison Ford and I put up several. Real. Pics. I haven't upgraded yet to Premium because don't want to waste it during the holidays when I'm with family, but I've been on 2 weeks and been "favorited" by 10 hot girls 23 to 37.12 not so hot girls 24 to 44. Got 7 girls. Sent messages but can't view or reply. Till. I upgrade. Been viewed 54 times by members all. Over, even international. So I think it works. Haven't hooked up yet because need to upgrade but hoping I really. Get. A. winner. Just IMHO it's still a dating site and looks etc. Play a big part when they are viewing your profile. So, it is very YMMV.

John HandCock
12-26-16, 07:41
I'll try to clarify my take on SA more. I've received several PMs from guys asking for "sure things". First off, I would hope you guys understand that just because a lady and myself hit it off that doesn't mean you and her will. I won't share usernames of the girls without me asking them first.

Secondly, you guys should understand that AMP / Bargirls (although there is quite a bit on here) have a different mentality. AMP girls know that sex is their job. SA girls don't yet. The younger girls get into this for money most of the time so if you accept this going into it you're less likely to be disappointed. This comes down to basic situation awareness.

You must be willing to be patient and weed out the gold diggers. Here are a couple of my rules when deciding who to meet.

1. Never pay them just to meet you.

2. Always stay within your budget.

3. Be careful what you say on the site (they monitor PMs).

4. Don't come off creepy (this will be hard for some of you on this board).

5. Don't ask them shit like "if I give you x $s will you do this or that".

6. Some girls are simply not looking for what I am and that's fine. I wish them good luck and move on.

7. I never talk about the other girls with them. I don't say "well Jane Doe fucked me for x amount, why won't you". This is another reason I don't share user names. I don't want one of you messing up my finds by asking for the same thing I got. After all, this is supposed to be discreet for most of them.You have a pretty good understanding as to how this works. The only thing I see that you could do is to give a link to the girl and general info. You don't need to be specific as to what you paid. You can say what she asked and we both know that YMMV is more relevant here than anywhere else. What might fuck you might not give me the time of day. Also if the profile is active then they are open for business. Posting links to girls your talking about gives a credibility to the posting as to it being a good story. Also the link is only good for paying members, non paying members can see the profile but can't contact her.

UlanFan
12-26-16, 13:35
Just to echo the previous poster. Please do not PM for names. The girls on SA are not advertising like the girls on CL or BP. They will not just see anyone. Many are very selective. Therefore, I will respect their right to privacy and not share thief name or contact information.

If one tells me it's OK to dhate, then I will gladly share any information I have.

FutSniffA
12-26-16, 14:14
You have a pretty good understanding as to how this works. The only thing I see that you could do is to give a link to the girl and general info. You don't need to be specific as to what you paid. You can say what she asked and we both know that YMMV is more relevant here than anywhere else. What might fuck you might not give me the time of day. Also if the profile is active then they are open for business. Posting links to girls your talking about gives a credibility to the posting as to it being a good story. Also the link is only good for paying members, non paying members can see the profile but can't contact her.This isn't BP, I'm not posting links or giving usernames in the open on here. God knows how many lurkers are on here and how many idiots there are to ruin what I've worked to establish with the girls I've had success with. Posting links will surely lead lazy guys directly to their in boxes asking stupid shit and revealing this board. It's quite simple, either you want to invest the time in finding some new pussy or you don't.

I started my updates to help guys like me who are tired of seeing the same over hyped AMP girls that guys on here give 10/10/10 sent from heaven ratings.

I can give two shits about credibility, several mongers on here have had success on SA. The main issue I see is guys who see FOB AMP / bargirls have no idea of how to hold a conversation with girls who are not FOBs and fully into the sex trade. I don't have some secret magic formula. I'm not Bill Gates with Brad Pitt looks. I can hold a basic conversation without whipping my dick out in public or asking for nude pics on the third email.

SneakyBoto
12-26-16, 14:30
This isn't BP, I'm not posting links or giving usernames in the open on here. God knows how many lurkers are on here and how many idiots there are to ruin what I've worked to establish with the girls I've had success with. Posting links will surely lead lazy guys directly to their in boxes asking stupid shit and revealing this board. It's quite simple, either you want to invest the time in finding some new pussy or you don't.

I started my updates to help guys like me who are tired of seeing the same over hyped AMP girls that guys on here give 10/10/10 sent from heaven ratings.

I can give two shits about credibility, several mongers on here have had success on SA. The main issue I see is guys who see FOB AMP / bargirls have no idea of how to hold a conversation with girls who are not FOBs and fully into the sex trade. I don't have some secret magic formula. I'm not Bill Gates with Brad Pitt looks. I can hold a basic conversation without whipping my dick out in public or asking for nude pics on the third email.This guy is spot on. It ain't backpage or an AMP. You need to be able to communicate and not come off like a desperate creep. YMMV for sure. I don't post much but even I say SA works. But it's just a tool. If you don't know what to do with it then it doesn't matter how good the tool is.

BotoMoco
12-26-16, 19:37
This isn't BP, I'm not posting links or giving usernames in the open on here. God knows how many lurkers are on here and how many idiots there are to ruin what I've worked to establish with the girls I've had success with. Posting links will surely lead lazy guys directly to their in boxes asking stupid shit and revealing this board. It's quite simple, either you want to invest the time in finding some new pussy or you don't.

I started my updates to help guys like me who are tired of seeing the same over hyped AMP girls that guys on here give 10/10/10 sent from heaven ratings.

I can give two shits about credibility, several mongers on here have had success on SA. The main issue I see is guys who see FOB AMP / bargirls have no idea of how to hold a conversation with girls who are not FOBs and fully into the sex trade. I don't have some secret magic formula. I'm not Bill Gates with Brad Pitt looks. I can hold a basic conversation without whipping my dick out in public or asking for nude pics on the third email.Totally agree with you on all counts. SA is I think more for a mature thinker. You have to be kind of smart player or at least hold a conversation. These girls are not your typical MP girls. Who are a dime a dozen. Anybody with 200 bucks can bang a hot provider and you don't even have to speak english or say a word. Its all about money at the MPs. Where in the world can someone off the street bang a hot chick so easily. SA is a different ball game I think. I am very happy where I'm at and will never go back to an MP till this runs out. Its cost a little more but like I said. The hottie I'm seeing is not fucking 8 guys a day every single day. Think about it. All the you guys in love with your hot MP provider just think how many dicks are in her pussy and how many CIMs she goes through in a day. Don't get me wrong I was one of them banging away all those hotties and loving it but. This is the new game for me now and I'm loving it. Happy hunting. So the advise is you get what you pay for and work for what you want. No free rides in this game.

AllNuts
12-26-16, 19:39
This is Lisa Ling's 1st episode, came out in 2014. Quality sux, better if you watch it on a smart phone enjoy LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBB1EiF49iU


CNN just did an episode on the subject of sugar daddies / sugar babies. It's part of a series by Journalist Lisa Ling called Living Life; Sugar Daddies / Sugar Babies. She features the Seeking Arrangements site and even interviews the founder of the site. Search Lisa Ling Living Life on You Tube to watch. Title of episode is Sugar Daddies / Sugar Babies.

Jetli316
12-26-16, 19:51
This isn't BP, I'm not posting links or giving usernames in the open on here. God knows how many lurkers are on here and how many idiots there are to ruin what I've worked to establish with the girls I've had success with. Posting links will surely lead lazy guys directly to their in boxes asking stupid shit and revealing this board. It's quite simple, either you want to invest the time in finding some new pussy or you don't.

I started my updates to help guys like me who are tired of seeing the same over hyped AMP girls that guys on here give 10/10/10 sent from heaven ratings.

I can give two shits about credibility, several mongers on here have had success on SA. The main issue I see is guys who see FOB AMP / bargirls have no idea of how to hold a conversation with girls who are not FOBs and fully into the sex trade. I don't have some secret magic formula. I'm not Bill Gates with Brad Pitt looks. I can hold a basic conversation without whipping my dick out in public or asking for nude pics on the third email.I have to agree with Futsniffa on keeping things down low and not revealing user names, etc. I have found that there are a lot of haters in HI and guys may screw things up for you (intentionally or not intentionally) and others using this board and SA. I started on SA and got some good leads but not have moved beyond to any actual arrangement or meetings. I got really busy this holiday season and had no time away from work and family stuff. But, now that things are settling down I will definitely respond to the ladies that have expressed interest. If I am successful and this is worth the effort, I will report back.

For those using SA, do you post your pic? I wanted to be really anonymous but you probably get way better responses if there was a pic. Anyone use a pic with sunglasses or use the blurring app? Just wondering.

BoobsMcghee
12-26-16, 20:30
Ok so I'm 2 days into SA and my take is this is basically POF or tinder with a finacial agreement involved. I'm working something out with a cute 19 yr old right now. Really all you got to do is hold a basic convo and not be a total creep and you'll be alright. Try to search for the girls who have things on their profile like 'looking for a sugar daddy' or 'paid companionship' or ' college girl looking for someone to take care of me' etc.,

this is not BP and most appear to be regular non-pros so just like the other 2 sites ive mentioned not EVERY single girl is inclined to reply. Some will even stop replying after awhile for whatever reason. Use the shot gun method. also, be sure to mention in your profile you want a 'mutually beneficial arrangement'

RedZhp
12-27-16, 22:38
I don't post public pics & only share private pics after I've vetted the girl a bit. Have I gotten the cold shoulder or lost out on replies because of that? Probably. However, I highly value my privacy, and sunglasses or blurring the face still shows the context of the photo. In this day and age you just never know, and this is compounded by how small Hawaii is.

That's just me though.


I have to agree with Futsniffa on keeping things down low and not revealing user names, etc. I have found that there are a lot of haters in HI and guys may screw things up for you (intentionally or not intentionally) and others using this board and SA. I started on SA and got some good leads but not have moved beyond to any actual arrangement or meetings. I got really busy this holiday season and had no time away from work and family stuff. But, now that things are settling down I will definitely respond to the ladies that have expressed interest. If I am successful and this is worth the effort, I will report back.

For those using SA, do you post your pic? I wanted to be really anonymous but you probably get way better responses if there was a pic. Anyone use a pic with sunglasses or use the blurring app? Just wondering.

BotoMoco
01-04-17, 02:18
I have to agree with Futsniffa on keeping things down low and not revealing user names, etc. I have found that there are a lot of haters in HI and guys may screw things up for you (intentionally or not intentionally) and others using this board and SA. I started on SA and got some good leads but not have moved beyond to any actual arrangement or meetings. I got really busy this holiday season and had no time away from work and family stuff. But, now that things are settling down I will definitely respond to the ladies that have expressed interest. If I am successful and this is worth the effort, I will report back.

For those using SA, do you post your pic? I wanted to be really anonymous but you probably get way better responses if there was a pic. Anyone use a pic with sunglasses or use the blurring app? Just wondering.I never posted a pic and am scoring. Its amazing.

Intence8
01-11-17, 04:52
Gentlemen. I have a sugar baby who is looking for more daddies. Or at least one that can continue to spoil her like I did. PM if interested. Would prefer to trade SB's (one hand washes the other).

Jetli316
01-21-17, 06:46
Most don't host but some do. I also can't host, so I get the hotel. For me that adds to the experience tho, mini taboo staycation of you will. But yeah it's an added cost to consider for those of us that can't host.Do you have any hotel recommendations?

Surfer Ten
01-30-17, 21:16
Do you have any hotel recommendations?Aloha Brother Jetli316.

This is not a hotel recommendation. But, something you might consider, especially if you are wanting to fly under the radar. There is always a risk of being seen by someone you don't want to be seen by together with a woman who is not your wife or SO when you stay at a hotel. There are the hotel employees as well as many local guests who opt for the staycation. So, for a safer alternative, I've stayed at vacation rentals. The last one I stayed at was a beach house in Mokuleia. It was excellent! The back yard was the beach and since the home was fully furnished, complete with a Weber gas grill on the lanai, just a quick trip to Costco for food and drink and we were set for the three days I booked it for! I took a former FWB who was in Hawaii on business. She enjoyed herself so much, she didn't want to leave! It was a small older home but very clean and well kept. The cost was less than what a decent hotel in Waikiki would have cost me and having that beautiful beach in our backyard was amazing! To my FWB, I was "the man", a freaking hero in her eyes and I certainly reaped the benefit of that many many times during our mini vacation! There are tons of vacation rentals all over the island and prices will vary from cheap to insanely expensive. But, if you do some research, you can find many gems where it will be well worth it and much safer for you. Hope this helps! ST.

RedZhp
02-01-17, 18:24
Do you have any hotel recommendations?Honestly I don't have a go-to routine, and it really depends on the date too. Typical would be travel booking sites to find the best deal, sometimes I call them up to check if they get kamaaina rates. I tend to switch hotels a lot, prob overkill in terms of privacy. I've also done things like airbnb like the post below, or aulani staycation. It really depends on the arrangement. The aulani one was a SB who flew in from LA for the weekend. Hands down the hottest girl I've seen. I expected to spend more for that one, but in this game you get out what you put in.

Sorry if that doesn't answer your question, but basically I switch it up based on the arrangement.

Jetli316
02-02-17, 05:46
Aloha Brother Jetli316.

This is not a hotel recommendation. But, something you might consider, especially if you are wanting to fly under the radar. There is always a risk of being seen by someone you don't want to be seen by together with a woman who is not your wife or SO when you stay at a hotel. There are the hotel employees as well as many local guests who opt for the staycation. So, for a safer alternative, I've stayed at vacation rentals. The last one I stayed at was a beach house in Mokuleia. It was excellent! The back yard was the beach and since the home was fully furnished, complete with a Weber gas grill on the lanai, just a quick trip to Costco for food and drink and we were set for the three days I booked it for! I took a former FWB who was in Hawaii on business. She enjoyed herself so much, she didn't want to leave! It was a small older home but very clean and well kept. The cost was less than what a decent hotel in Waikiki would have cost me and having that beautiful beach in our backyard was amazing! To my FWB, I was "the man", a freaking hero in her eyes and I certainly reaped the benefit of that many many times during our mini vacation! There are tons of vacation rentals all over the island and prices will vary from cheap to insanely expensive. But, if you do some research, you can find many gems where it will be well worth it and much safer for you. Hope this helps! ST.Thanks for the tip.

Jetli316
02-02-17, 05:48
Honestly I don't have a go-to routine, and it really depends on the date too. Typical would be travel booking sites to find the best deal, sometimes I call them up to check if they get kamaaina rates. I tend to switch hotels a lot, prob overkill in terms of privacy. I've also done things like airbnb like the post below, or aulani staycation. It really depends on the arrangement. The aulani one was a SB who flew in from LA for the weekend. Hands down the hottest girl I've seen. I expected to spend more for that one, but in this game you get out what you put in.

Sorry if that doesn't answer your question, but basically I switch it up based on the arrangement.I looked at some sites and most are around 150 plus there are all the bs fees to make it 200. I'm a daymonger and was hoping for an hourly hotel or a hotel for layovers.

Corvette808
02-02-17, 10:31
There is a hotel next to the airport that offers a day rate. You get the room from 9 am till 6 pm for about 120 after tax and parking fee. It has a pool and a gift shop that sells booze. I've only taken girl who arnt clock watchers there and it has worked out nice Also used the white sands in waikiki. They allow anytime check in and it's cheap. Also about 120. Anyways if anyone else has info please post. Aloha.


I looked at some sites and most are around 150 plus there are all the bs fees to make it 200. I'm a daymonger and was hoping for an hourly hotel or a hotel for layovers.

RedZhp
02-02-17, 16:10
Hope I'm not violating rules, but since you guys asked, the aqua chain is one of my go tos for "cheap" depending on the day of the week I've gotten it for as low as 95 and consistently around 110 including taxes and fees. Parking is another 25 tho so I just uber.

I don't work for them nor am I advertising.


There is a hotel next to the airport that offers a day rate. You get the room from 9 am till 6 pm for about 120 after tax and parking fee. It has a pool and a gift shop that sells booze. I've only taken girl who arnt clock watchers there and it has worked out nice Also used the white sands in waikiki. They allow anytime check in and it's cheap. Also about 120. Anyways if anyone else has info please post. Aloha.

Jetli316
02-02-17, 23:32
There is a hotel next to the airport that offers a day rate. You get the room from 9 am till 6 pm for about 120 after tax and parking fee. It has a pool and a gift shop that sells booze. I've only taken girl who arnt clock watchers there and it has worked out nice Also used the white sands in waikiki. They allow anytime check in and it's cheap. Also about 120. Anyways if anyone else has info please post. Aloha.Thanks, I'll check it out. It is a bit out of my way but since it isn't in waikiki there should be less chance of getting spotted by someone I know.

FutSniffA
02-18-17, 03:09
So I took a month off because I had quite a few regulars here in Hawaii. I had to travel for work so I signed up for another month and I must say we have it good here in Hawaii. The girls on the mainland were all players and pros. I did meet the hottest / nasty 19 Asian of my life. Anyway, over two months on the site I've fucked 12 ladies and haven't been to an AMP of BP girl since. This can be highly addictive so I try to pace myself. A few new pointers I've noticed.

Never bid against yourself. Some of the girls will turn down $100 at first but after a couple of weeks they come back calling after no one takes them up on the "500 per meet" offer.

Don't be afraid to walk away.

Don't be afraid to offer them $100 (I started out offering 2-250), this might be the reason I got so many hits the first month. I now pay 100-150 and don't budge no matter how hot she is.

If you have the time, don't fuck them on the first meet. I know this sounds odd but it will save you the hassle of having to block one that turns out crazy. For some reason I've meet a few that are not all there mentally.

Most of them have other friends on the site so be careful of what you tell them, be consistent (alias / fake work etc).

Member #5810
02-18-17, 03:30
So I took a month off because I had quite a few regulars here in Hawaii. I had to travel for work so I signed up for another month and I must say we have it good here in Hawaii. The girls on the mainland were all players and pros. I did meet the hottest / nasty 19 Asian of my life. Anyway, over two months on the site I've fucked 12 ladies and haven't been to an AMP of BP girl since. This can be highly addictive so I try to pace myself. A few new pointers I've noticed.

Never bid against yourself. Some of the girls will turn down $100 at first but after a couple of weeks they come back calling after no one takes them up on the "500 per meet" offer.

Don't be afraid to walk away.

Don't be afraid to offer them $100 (I started out offering 2-250), this might be the reason I got so many hits the first month. I now pay 100-150 and don't budge no matter how hot she is.

If you have the time, don't fuck them on the first meet. I know this sounds odd but it will save you the hassle of having to block one that turns out crazy. For some reason I've meet a few that are not all there mentally.

Most of them have other friends on the site so be careful of what you tell them, be consistent (alias / fake work etc).Thanks for the tips. I've got a lot of messages and favoriting by the girls but haven't paid for the upgrade yet so can't reply or read. Been busy but will do over the weekend. Good to know about the $100 -$150 . Will try it out.

SimpleK
02-18-17, 03:37
So I took a month off because I had quite a few regulars here in Hawaii. I had to travel for work so I signed up for another month and I must say we have it good here in Hawaii. The girls on the mainland were all players and pros. I did meet the hottest / nasty 19 Asian of my life. Anyway, over two months on the site I've fucked 12 ladies and haven't been to an AMP of BP girl since. This can be highly addictive so I try to pace myself. A few new pointers I've noticed.

Never bid against yourself. Some of the girls will turn down $100 at first but after a couple of weeks they come back calling after no one takes them up on the "500 per meet" offer.

Don't be afraid to walk away.

Don't be afraid to offer them $100 (I started out offering 2-250), this might be the reason I got so many hits the first month. I now pay 100-150 and don't budge no matter how hot she is.

If you have the time, don't fuck them on the first meet. I know this sounds odd but it will save you the hassle of having to block one that turns out crazy. For some reason I've meet a few that are not all there mentally.

Most of them have other friends on the site so be careful of what you tell them, be consistent (alias / fake work etc).When using this, you don't worry about being setup by an undercover for solicitation or someone putting you on blast?

ClintonPortis
02-20-17, 01:07
So I took a month off because I had quite a few regulars here in Hawaii. I had to travel for work so I signed up for another month and I must say we have it good here in Hawaii. The girls on the mainland were all players and pros. I did meet the hottest / nasty 19 Asian of my life. Anyway, over two months on the site I've fucked 12 ladies and haven't been to an AMP of BP girl since. This can be highly addictive so I try to pace myself. A few new pointers I've noticed.

Never bid against yourself. Some of the girls will turn down $100 at first but after a couple of weeks they come back calling after no one takes them up on the "500 per meet" offer.

Don't be afraid to walk away.

Don't be afraid to offer them $100 (I started out offering 2-250), this might be the reason I got so many hits the first month. I now pay 100-150 and don't budge no matter how hot she is.

If you have the time, don't fuck them on the first meet. I know this sounds odd but it will save you the hassle of having to block one that turns out crazy. For some reason I've meet a few that are not all there mentally.

Most of them have other friends on the site so be careful of what you tell them, be consistent (alias / fake work etc).So based on your posts, I figured what the hell, I signed up. Haven't paid the membership fee, just testing to see what kind of results I get. Put a couple pics (censored of course), viewed a bunch of profiles and favorited a few.

So far in about 20 hours, only a few girls "viewed" my profile and 1 favorited me from Florida LOL. But I I did get a message from my inbox. The weird thing is that the message is from one of the girls I'm sure I favorited. But her profile no longer appears on my "favorites" list. Now, she appears in my message inbox as having sent me a message but without any profile "thumbnail" photo attached to her profile name. Don't know what to make of it.

Member #5810
02-23-17, 02:25
So based on your posts, I figured what the hell, I signed up. Haven't paid the membership fee, just testing to see what kind of results I get. Put a couple pics (censored of course), viewed a bunch of profiles and favorited a few.

So far in about 20 hours, only a few girls "viewed" my profile and 1 favorited me from Florida LOL. But I I did get a message from my inbox. The weird thing is that the message is from one of the girls I'm sure I favorited. But her profile no longer appears on my "favorites" list. Now, she appears in my message inbox as having sent me a message but without any profile "thumbnail" photo attached to her profile name. Don't know what to make of it.I think that means their profile is no longer active. Or that they blocked you. BTW they have a special now 53.00 for one month. I upgraded to try it out as I had a lot of messages but couldn't read or reply.

BallnChain808
02-23-17, 14:42
Fellas,

So I took the plunge and signed up for an account. Posted a couple of public photos (hiding the details) and upgraded my account for a month (why not).

So far, I've been messaging with a bunch of girls, mostly college or mid-20's (sugar babies duh haha). Some of them are straight to the point - $xxx for FS. I've met and made out with a couple of hotties, hopefully will go all the way next time.

It's a fun way for an older (late-30's guy) to relive the good ol' days. There's a couple of older women out there that I may try to get with also. I love me those MILFS.

More info to come later.

FutSniffA
02-23-17, 19:18
So based on your posts, I figured what the hell, I signed up. Haven't paid the membership fee, just testing to see what kind of results I get. Put a couple pics (censored of course), viewed a bunch of profiles and favorited a few.

So far in about 20 hours, only a few girls "viewed" my profile and 1 favorited me from Florida LOL. But I I did get a message from my inbox. The weird thing is that the message is from one of the girls I'm sure I favorited. But her profile no longer appears on my "favorites" list. Now, she appears in my message inbox as having sent me a message but without any profile "thumbnail" photo attached to her profile name. Don't know what to make of it.I honestly think they all have a price. Even the "platonic" ones. The main thing is to not make it seem like you're paying for sex straight up. The website has been acting odd the last few days so the issues you mention might be due to that. The app seems more stable for me as of late.

ClintonPortis
02-24-17, 03:03
I think that means their profile is no longer active. Or that they blocked you. BTW they have a special now 53.00 for one month. I upgraded to try it out as I had a lot of messages but couldn't read or reply.I think that account was deactivated. At least that's the message I got from the site. Too bad since she was damn cute. LOL. I don't know why but I don't get the $53 dollar special showing up when I click on "Premium" - only the standard $79 rate.

I'm thinking about trying it out but I only have 1 real message so far and it's been 4 days. You said you had a lot before you even upgraded, so not sure if it's worth it for me.

ClintonPortis
02-24-17, 03:10
I honestly think they all have a price. Even the "platonic" ones. The main thing is to not make it seem like you're paying for sex straight up. The website has been acting odd the last few days so the issues you mention might be due to that. The app seems more stable for me as of late.I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to sign up for premium membership. Did you get a lot of messages while you were a non-premium member? Or do the girls only bother messaging premium members since they obviously won't be able to truly communicate with non premium members?

Phillybeauties
02-24-17, 15:02
Found this link for those that travel to Japan.

https://universe-club.jp/sphone/en/men/

SlappinBellies
02-25-17, 00:16
I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to sign up for premium membership. Did you get a lot of messages while you were a non-premium member? Or do the girls only bother messaging premium members since they obviously won't be able to truly communicate with non premium members?Its $80 to sign up for 30 days. Less than $3 a day. Its a sugar daddy / sugar baby site. This is a pay per play hobby. If you can't pay $80 how you going to pay $150 multiple times with girls. You'll just end up kicking yourself in the butt for not having available funds to play. I would suggest you pass on this site and continue with what your doing to monger.

ClintonPortis
02-25-17, 02:55
Its $80 to sign up for 30 days. Less than $3 a day. Its a sugar daddy / sugar baby site. This is a pay per play hobby. If you can't pay $80 how you going to pay $150 multiple times with girls. You'll just end up kicking yourself in the butt for not having available funds to play. I would suggest you pass on this site and continue with what your doing to monger.I don't mind paying at all. As long as I get something in return. That's my point. If my profile ain't netting enough interest, then why would I waste my money, whether it's 8 bucks or 80 or 800?

Member #5810
02-26-17, 02:42
I think that account was deactivated. At least that's the message I got from the site. Too bad since she was damn cute. LOL. I don't know why but I don't get the $53 dollar special showing up when I click on "Premium" - only the standard $79 rate.

I'm thinking about trying it out but I only have 1 real message so far and it's been 4 days. You said you had a lot before you even upgraded, so not sure if it's worth it for me.I did have lot of messages and also favorite before upgrading. I also favorited maybe 10 girls too. And lots of views. I think depends what you put in your profile info. I specifically said NSA and was direct in what I was looking for. I put real pics too.

Chatting with a few but no time to hook up. Looks wise they are along the lines of Dallas, Hoshi level and in their 20's. Also made friends. . if you will with some. International girls. Australia, Sweden, Brazil. . other countries. Go figure.

MNick
02-28-17, 15:07
What is link for these sites, I am curious.

SlappinBellies
03-01-17, 03:07
I don't mind paying at all. As long as I get something in return. That's my point. If my profile ain't netting enough interest, then why would I waste my money, whether it's 8 bucks or 80 or 800?Nothing ventured nothing gained!! I guess some guys just need to be dragged to the lake for water.

Blake123
03-01-17, 04:53
What is link for these sites, I am curious.This is the website. You might get lucky. Not hard to do.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/joinfree/?ref=goo~230111017_9660913057_dating%20arrangement&gclid=CjwKEAiA_9nFBRCsurz7y_Px8xoSJAAUqvKC1qzQ8w6SfzQOiOKDgfZFmB20h6ltHnqdu38Whqm03hoCvffw_wcB

John HandCock
03-01-17, 06:11
I don't mind paying at all. As long as I get something in return. That's my point. If my profile ain't netting enough interest, then why would I waste my money, whether it's 8 bucks or 80 or 800?What would you consider a success rate for $80 a month? For me one non pro civy would justify that. Redo your profile and have patience. If its not what you expect after a month don't renew your membership. Not sure what the atmosphere is like there but should be plenty of pros and utr girls that will be interested if you don't mind that.

John HandCock
03-01-17, 06:16
I'm trying to decide if it's worth it to sign up for premium membership. Did you get a lot of messages while you were a non-premium member? Or do the girls only bother messaging premium members since they obviously won't be able to truly communicate with non premium members?Most girls learn quickly that only premium members can reply to their messages so why waste time on guys that cannot respond.

John HandCock
03-01-17, 06:22
I think that account was deactivated. At least that's the message I got from the site. Too bad since she was damn cute. LOL. I don't know why but I don't get the $53 dollar special showing up when I click on "Premium" - only the standard $79 rate.

I'm thinking about trying it out but I only have 1 real message so far and it's been 4 days. You said you had a lot before you even upgraded, so not sure if it's worth it for me.I think the 53 dollar offer is only offered for one time to guys who have signed up through the App. If you go through the main website you don't get that offer. I've been a member for 2 years and only got a discount once by a promo code.

VMan808
03-01-17, 16:12
Let me just saw, these. Girls are real, but you have to work at it. There are pros in there but myself I was looking for that genuine experience. Just had a date with a smoking hot 19 year old JAPANESE Happa from NY she was amazing, 5 $ but worth it, she was the first I took a plunge with CBJ, CFS, but she's a Gem. Had other dates but never took the plunge. Had a date with a 23 year old white girl and we went to dinner I didn't have to pay for more than the dinner. She was really nice but too many options. Another Local girl met with her and she wanted 3 $ but I wasn't really feeling it so I gave her $ for having dinner with me. My first encounter was with a 18 year old at Pacific University, we had a date at her dorm. But got in trouble BC I brought a 6 pack into the dorm, apparently it's a dry dorm, I was short in time so I decided to rain check that one. The fisrt time I hung out with the Japanese girl we simply drove around and and hung out, didn't pay for that, but she made out on our 2nd date.

If you're the typical monger this is not for you, but if you have patience and any sort of game than this is fun, I'm on my 2nd month membership and as someone else mentioned if you're bitching about $80 you're not fit to be a SD.

BallnChain808
03-05-17, 23:07
So I've been on SA for almost a month now. I haven't been going crazy messaging any and every girl that looks f*ckable. Like they said, it takes some work and sometimes for me, I prefer the chase rather than the straight up pay the HF and get it done.

I've met up with a cutie from "the college in downtown". Pics didn't show the body, which ended up being larger than I thought. Still, I would've never had the courage to talk with an 18 yo nor would they have ever talked to me so it was pretty cool. We met at a local coffee shop and had some drinks (non alcoholic haha). I walked with her back to the class area and made out with her in an alley. Wooo weee those young girls sure know how to kiss like pornstars. I'm setting some time with her in privacy. She's asking. 3 for the whole thing which isn't too bad.

The only downside to this whole thing is unless you're someone with their own place (which I'd be wary or anyway) or a stash house, you'd have to fork over at least. 1 for a room in Waikiki.

Be aware though fellas. There are also ripoff girls out there that are almost slick. Almost. I was chatting with a young one and she said she needed to pay her "rent". And promised to f*ck my brains out after I paid it online via PayPal. Red flag. Didn't want to meet up first. And the PayPal account was listed under someone in Texas. Huge red flag. I told her to eff off via message (don't give out your cell number unless you know they're legit) and then her "profile" disappeared on SA.

Phillybeauties
03-07-17, 08:15
https://www.sugarmodels.com/

Chikan San
03-07-17, 19:34
Decided to give SA a try. We'll see how it goes. Does anybody know if an AMP would be willing to rent out a room for a date? Damn, I wish we had Love Hotels here!

BallnChain808
03-07-17, 21:39
Decided to give SA a try. We'll see how it goes. Does anybody know if an AMP would be willing to rent out a room for a date? Damn, I wish we had Love Hotels here!I completely agree! I was thinking of Air BnB but depending on who the owner is. Can't have a shady owner asking questions. "how come just one night? "you pau already?" (hahaha!

I've seen rooms and homes for as low as 90 per night.

GMan808
03-08-17, 00:22
Decided to give SA a try. We'll see how it goes. Does anybody know if an AMP would be willing to rent out a room for a date? Damn, I wish we had Love Hotels here!Good luck with SA. Love motels would be so welcome. Got tons of them in Meguro, Shibuya, and other places in Tokyo why not HNL.

Makana9
03-11-17, 04:22
That I would try something new, but I always gamed within my reasons. SA has been interesting for the last month. Talked with some, connected with a couple, one college student and one diva from Big Island. Will split up the stories over the weekend, but interesting on my fun time search.

ClintonPortis
03-11-17, 13:33
OK, may I respectfully request an honest breakdown of costs vs what you've actually gotten on this site? Trying to compare the cost / benefit of this vs traditional mongering.

Reading this thread, I noticed one guy getting great results and paying only 100-200 per girl. Obviously very cost effective, esp since these girls presumably see a lot less guys than your typical provider.

But then I noticed this other guy who seems super happy with Seeking Arrangements who spent, by my calculation, 860 bucks for basically 1 session, 1 make out session, and a few dates. That sounds like a horrible return on investment.

For me, as a nonpaying member, I've gotten about 10 favorites, 14 views, and 3 messages in 10 days. Only about 4 are good looking enough to respond to, and I suspect 1 or 2 of those are just scammers looking to make gullible dudes pay for "chaturbate" type online sessions.

GMan808
03-11-17, 14:54
That I would try something new, but I always gamed within my reasons. SA has been interesting for the last month. Talked with some, connected with a couple, one college student and one diva from Big Island. Will split up the stories over the weekend, but interesting on my fun time search.It could be that I have very little free time and no place to host but my experience so far:

1. Girls delete their accounts.

2. Girls flake on the meet and greet.

3. Girls want $500 for PPM, $300 is ok and I have paid $300 + nice lunch for PPM.

4. Scam artists that want me to send money electronically.

5. Virtual sugar babies that want me to pay for pictures without their heads on them.

6. Girls that cancel the meet and greet because the location "is too far" (its always near ala moana or waikiki).

I did have several amazing conversations with a few girls but that hasn't turned into anything and one student I met at the meet and greet without realizing it nearly shouted "so what made you sign up for seeking. " and then she caught herself. It would have been too much work for me to schlep her all over town.

And I met one fantastic lady twice but she is busy too so hard to find time.

I'm meeting one more this week that's looking good.

Overall not a waste but certainly more work than I initially anticipated.

BallnChain808
03-12-17, 22:58
It could be that I have very little free time and no place to host but my experience so far:

1. Girls delete their accounts.

2. Girls flake on the meet and greet.

3. Girls want $500 for PPM, $300 is ok and I have paid $300 + nice lunch for PPM.

4. Scam artists that want me to send money electronically.

5. Virtual sugar babies that want me to pay for pictures without their heads on them.

6. Girls that cancel the meet and greet because the location "is too far" (its always near ala moana or waikiki).

I did have several amazing conversations with a few girls but that hasn't turned into anything and one student I met at the meet and greet without realizing it nearly shouted "so what made you sign up for seeking. " and then she caught herself. It would have been too much work for me to schlep her all over town.

And I met one fantastic lady twice but she is busy too so hard to find time.

I'm meeting one more this week that's looking good.

Overall not a waste but certainly more work than I initially anticipated.1. I've had girls that I was chatting with that deleted their accounts. For whatever reason it must be lame because girls can do everything for free on SA.

2. I've met 3 girls so far. But had more than that flake on me too.

3. Like I mentioned in earlier posts, some girls are straight up five benjamins for "intimacy". Others are three bennys just to hang out.

4. Been there with one. She said she "needed to pay rent" so to send greenbacks via Paypal. Lame and major red flag. Don't do it at any cost. No matter what they try to do. They send "real pics". Not. If she says "pay me online first, then we'll f*ck whenever you want" don't fall for that.

5. I had a girl in Australia (sheesh) want 1 K for "videos and sexy pics". What? Nope.

6. See #2.

Overall, SA is cool to check out people that you may normally not talk to but it's a "fun" time waster. My 1-month promo subscription is up and I'm debating whether or not to renew. I already have digits for 2 solid girls that I could see myself continuing to see but no need to stretch it further. Besides this island is way too damn small. You never know if you're connected (or in my case, my SO connected).

And sorry, I won't give out one of my favorites' digits. She's all mine baby. And probably some of yours too hahaha.

SlappinBellies
03-14-17, 08:34
1. I've had girls that I was chatting with that deleted their accounts. For whatever reason it must be lame because girls can do everything for free on SA.

2. I've met 3 girls so far. But had more than that flake on me too.

3. Like I mentioned in earlier posts, some girls are straight up five benjamins for "intimacy". Others are three bennys just to hang out.

4. Been there with one. She said she "needed to pay rent" so to send greenbacks via Paypal. Lame and major red flag. Don't do it at any cost. No matter what they try to do. They send "real pics". Not. If she says "pay me online first, then we'll f*ck whenever you want" don't fall for that.

5. I had a girl in Australia (sheesh) want 1 K for "videos and sexy pics". What? Nope.

6. See #2.

Overall, SA is cool to check out people that you may normally not talk to but it's a "fun" time waster. My 1-month promo subscription is up and I'm debating whether or not to renew. I already have digits for 2 solid girls that I could see myself continuing to see but no need to stretch it further. Besides this island is way too damn small. You never know if you're connected (or in my case, my SO connected).

And sorry, I won't give out one of my favorites' digits. She's all mine baby. And probably some of yours too hahaha.Beware: There are some resentful bitches on the site. I was banned permanently from the site for asking for sex in exchange for money. The one's I flaked on reported me. [Deleted by Admin]. Also, none of the attractive girls that know their worth will accept $150. More like $300 to $500. The nice thing about the site new girls are always signing up.

FutSniffA
03-14-17, 23:17
I made the mistake of bidding against myself early on. I would start with $300 to see if she would bite and sure enough most dropped everything and found time to see me. I started to notice this and put 2+2 together. Then I cut my offer in half and some started to walk which is fine and others went with that realizing something is better than nothing. I think guys fail to see that attraction matters to most of these girls since they're not full time pros. I'm not handsome but do look young for my age. Since December I've banged 14 (10 Hawaii) on average I've paid 175 if my math is correct.

I suspect that most guys on here run directly to the hottest blonde on the site expecting her to take less when she has more offers to decide from. I rarely see white girls in general so we could be after different girls. Lastly, don't come off desperate, girls can sense this and play you. Oh and never send money to them via pay pal or square etc.

LostIn808
03-16-17, 23:43
Trying it out. Will post if get results. Question, does anyone actually post their picture? Opted to pay the premium price to bypass the requirement for a photo for messaging. Tried to post a pic of my dog but didn't fly, got rejected.

Member #5810
03-17-17, 03:44
Trying it out. Will post if get results. Question, does anyone actually post their picture? Opted to pay the premium price to bypass the requirement for a photo for messaging. Tried to post a pic of my dog but didn't fly, got rejected.I posted a real pic but with sunglasses. And put real photos in private. Just IMHO but if you want to get serious returns you got to be real. I have gotten quite a lot of favorite and hook ups by being real. Even the girls do that by putting private pics.

I've gotten really good looking non pro girls but it takes up a lot of time and being that I'm married with family the AMP scene is better for my situation. If I was single then I'd be all. Over this site for sure.

And just my opinion, but your responses and actual hook up will depend a lot. And I mean a lot on how you look. The girls here can choose and to be frank, if you kinda ugly or fat or below average, don't expect to be hooking up with 10's. You better off going to an AMP. Of course there are professional SBs if you got the funds. Then your looks will not be so important. Don't rag on me for this, I'm just giving my opinion from my experiences. More than a few girls I met told me that they choose the best looking guys. Especially the hot girls in their 20's who are just playing around on this site. I just hit up the girls who favorite me. Because it show already they're interested so makes things a whole lot easier. I even met a girl who came here from London. Pretty cool that one.

Blake123
03-17-17, 04:48
Trying it out. Will post if get results. Question, does anyone actually post their picture? Opted to pay the premium price to bypass the requirement for a photo for messaging. Tried to post a pic of my dog but didn't fly, got rejected.Use your own discretion. But, I'd recommend against doing that because your co-workers, neighbors or someone who knows you might see your profile--unless you don't care. It's best to show your face pic to the girl only when it looks like you are actually going to meet up with her.

FutSniffA
03-17-17, 18:03
I posted a real pic but with sunglasses. And put real photos in private. Just IMHO but if you want to get serious returns you got to be real. I have gotten quite a lot of favorite and hook ups by being real. Even the girls do that by putting private pics.

I've gotten really good looking non pro girls but it takes up a lot of time and being that I'm married with family the AMP scene is better for my situation. If I was single then I'd be all. Over this site for sure.

And just my opinion, but your responses and actual hook up will depend a lot. And I mean a lot on how you look. The girls here can choose and to be frank, if you kinda ugly or fat or below average, don't expect to be hooking up with 10's. You better off going to an AMP. Of course there are professional SBs if you got the funds. Then your looks will not be so important. Don't rag on me for this, I'm just giving my opinion from my experiences. More than a few girls I met told me that they choose the best looking guys. Especially the hot girls in their 20's who are just playing around on this site. I just hit up the girls who favorite me. Because it show already they're interested so makes things a whole lot easier. I even met a girl who came here from London. Pretty cool that one.I agree and disagree. I agree that looks matters to most but money and personality matters more in my experience. I say this because I'm not handsome but I do know how to talk to them in a sensible way. I've seem some pretty creepy and disgusting messages that some of the guys send. These girls don't know or understand that they are escorts / hookers so it's all about talking to them in their language.

Member #5810
03-17-17, 20:23
I agree and disagree. I agree that looks matters to most but money and personality matters more in my experience. I say this because I'm not handsome but I do know how to talk to them in a sensible way. I've seem some pretty creepy and disgusting messages that some of the guys send. These girls don't know or understand that they are escorts / hookers so it's all about talking to them in their language.Yes, agree with you on this too. I. try to treat all. Of them with respect. Actually like dating come to think of it. I don't think of them like escorts.

They don't like to think of themselves like this either. I've seen some pretty rude, insulting messages too. NO class at all.

LostIn808
03-17-17, 22:07
I posted a real pic but with sunglasses. And put real photos in private. Just IMHO but if you want to get serious returns you got to be real. I have gotten quite a lot of favorite and hook ups by being real. Even the girls do that by putting private pics.

I've gotten really good looking non pro girls but it takes up a lot of time and being that I'm married with family the AMP scene is better for my situation. If I was single then I'd be all. Over this site for sure.

And just my opinion, but your responses and actual hook up will depend a lot. And I mean a lot on how you look. The girls here can choose and to be frank, if you kinda ugly or fat or below average, don't expect to be hooking up with 10's. You better off going to an AMP. Of course there are professional SBs if you got the funds. Then your looks will not be so important. Don't rag on me for this, I'm just giving my opinion from my experiences. More than a few girls I met told me that they choose the best looking guys. Especially the hot girls in their 20's who are just playing around on this site. I just hit up the girls who favorite me. Because it show already they're interested so makes things a whole lot easier. I even met a girl who came here from London. Pretty cool that one.Yeah, I'm sure you're right. But this is why 99% of women are fundamentally flawed, want their cake and eat it too. It's a SB / SD site. Not only do they want to be financially supported, they want someone who looks good. They should be on Match or Tinder but like I said. Thing is, of course the hotties can get away with anything. Some of it is ridiculous though, pay for pics? Please. Personally I don't really have a problem posting a pic. Just don't want to be recognized on a Island. I know I'm far physically from what any hottie would want, but they should know what they're getting into and not claim to be surprised.

Maybe my goal is a little different. Don't necessarily want to hookup. If I want to fuck a hottie, I'll go to a AMP. Don't want to date somebody either, really don't have the time to invest or the drama. Just would like to enjoy the company of someone younger, nice looking, once in awhile who really does not need to know my life.

Anyway, I do feel like fucking a hottie so probably will hit up Sunflower. And after will go home to my SO for the so called normal life.

FutSniffA
03-23-17, 23:53
Yeah, I'm sure you're right. But this is why 99% of women are fundamentally flawed, want their cake and eat it too. It's a SB / SD site. Not only do they want to be financially supported, they want someone who looks good. They should be on Match or Tinder but like I said. Thing is, of course the hotties can get away with anything. Some of it is ridiculous though, pay for pics? Please. Personally I don't really have a problem posting a pic. Just don't want to be recognized on a Island. I know I'm far physically from what any hottie would want, but they should know what they're getting into and not claim to be surprised.

Maybe my goal is a little different. Don't necessarily want to hookup. If I want to fuck a hottie, I'll go to a AMP. Don't want to date somebody either, really don't have the time to invest or the drama. Just would like to enjoy the company of someone younger, nice looking, once in awhile who really does not need to know my life.

Anyway, I do feel like fucking a hottie so probably will hit up Sunflower. And after will go home to my SO for the so called normal life.Haha Man I get this all the time and I simply ask them, what's more important, my looks or cash? The smart ones jump on the cash and the new ones run from the looks. Talking to some of these girls makes me wonder how they remember to walk up right. I've come to think that most are lazy in general and think their looks and "time" should get them through life.

BotoMoco
03-26-17, 11:48
In my opinion it is all about the money. These are professionals and one told me that it is a dirty job and who in their right mind would do this if the rewards weren't great. So all of us fall for the lines of being led onto this path to believe we really mean something to them haha. But bottom line when the kala dries up I am a 100 percent sure they will too. Also, I never posted a pic on SA but have had very good results. I'm currently hooked up with one and loving it. Hot and hot and no complaints. My advice to get anywhere is to mass email all of them. See who replies and see who consistently replies and you may get lucky. Some of them don't reply for a month but you know when they do they may want something. I notice the rates go anywhere from 3 bills to 2 k. Happy hunting boys and don't fall in love LOL.

BotoPower
03-27-17, 00:16
No need share digits but can you share screen name?


1. I've had girls that I was chatting with that deleted their accounts. For whatever reason it must be lame because girls can do everything for free on SA.

2. I've met 3 girls so far. But had more than that flake on me too.

3. Like I mentioned in earlier posts, some girls are straight up five benjamins for "intimacy". Others are three bennys just to hang out.

4. Been there with one. She said she "needed to pay rent" so to send greenbacks via Paypal. Lame and major red flag. Don't do it at any cost. No matter what they try to do. They send "real pics". Not. If she says "pay me online first, then we'll f*ck whenever you want" don't fall for that.

5. I had a girl in Australia (sheesh) want 1 K for "videos and sexy pics". What? Nope.

6. See #2.

Overall, SA is cool to check out people that you may normally not talk to but it's a "fun" time waster. My 1-month promo subscription is up and I'm debating whether or not to renew. I already have digits for 2 solid girls that I could see myself continuing to see but no need to stretch it further. Besides this island is way too damn small. You never know if you're connected (or in my case, my SO connected).

And sorry, I won't give out one of my favorites' digits. She's all mine baby. And probably some of yours too hahaha.

GMan808
03-27-17, 14:19
In my opinion it is all about the money. These are professionals and one told me that it is a dirty job and who in their right mind would do this if the rewards weren't great. So all of us fall for the lines of being led onto this path to believe we really mean something to them haha. But bottom line when the kala dries up I am a 100 percent sure they will too. Also, I never posted a pic on SA but have had very good results. I'm currently hooked up with one and loving it. Hot and hot and no complaints. My advice to get anywhere is to mass email all of them. See who replies and see who consistently replies and you may get lucky. Some of them don't reply for a month but you know when they do they may want something. I notice the rates go anywhere from 3 bills to 2 k. Happy hunting boys and don't fall in love LOL.Recently the rates have gone to $1,000 or 800 if she thinks your cute. WTH. So I met a cutey yesterday. She's late 20's, mixed Asian / caucasian. A little curvy in terms of body type. She agreed to $500 for pay to play so I agreed to have a meet & greet with her. Then bammm during the discussion she said, so if you're looking for any intimacy, it will be $1,000.

The story line was that she spoke with a "friend" who advised her she wasn't charging enough for her time. Sooooo $500 for someone to have dinner with and $1,000 for bedtime fun. What the hell. Who is advising them in this fashion.

Just the day earlier. I said no to $400 because I thought it was too much. I don't think I'm "cheap" but all of a sudden I'm starting to feel cheap. I guess its because there are a few guys on the island that are way overpaying.

Incidentally the one I described first kept telling me how normal and nice I was to spend time with. I guess the day before she had a really bad experience with a guy. Hmm.

Oh well.

ClintonPortis
03-27-17, 15:29
In my opinion it is all about the money. These are professionals and one told me that it is a dirty job and who in their right mind would do this if the rewards weren't great. So all of us fall for the lines of being led onto this path to believe we really mean something to them haha. But bottom line when the kala dries up I am a 100 percent sure they will too. Also, I never posted a pic on SA but have had very good results. I'm currently hooked up with one and loving it. Hot and hot and no complaints. My advice to get anywhere is to mass email all of them. See who replies and see who consistently replies and you may get lucky. Some of them don't reply for a month but you know when they do they may want something. I notice the rates go anywhere from 3 bills to 2 k. Happy hunting boys and don't fall in love LOL.You've been quoted $300 to $2000? Wow. That's a lot higher than what another monger here has reported (more in the 100-200 range). Those ladies better be perfect 10's for those amounts. LOL.

Thanks for the info. I've been getting a few messages trickling in. One from a hapa girl in Aiea that most of you bruddahs would love but who isn't really my type (not into hapa look). A couple from overseas that are more my type. But since I'm not a premium member, I can't read any of them.

BotoMoco
03-27-17, 22:22
You've been quoted $300 to $2000? Wow. That's a lot higher than what another monger here has reported (more in the 100-200 range). Those ladies better be perfect 10's for those amounts. LOL.

Thanks for the info. I've been getting a few messages trickling in. One from a hapa girl in Aiea that most of you bruddahs would love but who isn't really my type (not into hapa look). A couple from overseas that are more my type. But since I'm not a premium member, I can't read any of them.Believe me the price of admission is worth it. 78 bucks I think to become a premium member? Do it and you won't be sorry. LOL and you want to know something some of those chicks are super hot and not all used up like your typical hot MP girl.

Member #5422
03-27-17, 23:19
So I joined the site and was going to Vegas so looked for some hookups while I was there. I got lucky and found a young Filipino on the site and started talking. She is a nursing student and originally was telling me she is looking for someone to help her through school and some living expenses also to go out on dates with. Well we talked a lot and she eventually told me that she was actually just curious and wasn't going to meet anyone cause she was newly divorced and had some fun while separated dating guys she had met a bars and clubs getting her sexual desires taken care of then found this site and was curious what it was all about, having her sex and getting financial compensation. Well a week later we hit it off and she said she hadn't given her number to anyone from the site except me and I booked a flight to see her. Well she fell in love with me and I her, so we ended up dating and she wanted a committed relationship from me to continue having unlimited sex without financial compensation to her. Yes I didn't pay her one cent and we had sex 4 to 5 times a day. Its been 4 months and I've flown back to Vegas 5 times to see her. Overtime its like seeing her for the first time and the sex is awesome. The only thing that kinda worried me is the fact when she was separated she had dated and slept with 20 guys in a two year span but she said she always used a cover and didn't give anyone head. With me she blows me off and doesn't use a cover from the start. We did get tested and showed each other the results. She said she is reserved and was with her ex for 6 years and when she got separated wanted to experience things she was curious about, hence other ethnicities like white, black, and indian men. She also said she looked for a man with a huge cock, found one but didn't like it cause it hurt her pussy all night. I had to laugh, she is too honest.

HiLife808
03-27-17, 23:29
Recently the rates have gone to $1,000 or 800 if she thinks your cute. WTH. So I met a cutey yesterday. She's late 20's, mixed Asian / caucasian. A little curvy in terms of body type. She agreed to $500 for pay to play so I agreed to have a meet & greet with her. Then bammm during the discussion she said, so if you're looking for any intimacy, it will be $1,000.

The story line was that she spoke with a "friend" who advised her she wasn't charging enough for her time. Sooooo $500 for someone to have dinner with and $1,000 for bedtime fun. What the hell. Who is advising them in this fashion.

Just the day earlier. I said no to $400 because I thought it was too much. I don't think I'm "cheap" but all of a sudden I'm starting to feel cheap. I guess its because there are a few guys on the island that are way overpaying.

Incidentally the one I described first kept telling me how normal and nice I was to spend time with. I guess the day before she had a really bad experience with a guy. Hmm.

Oh well.It shouldn't surprise you. I'm sure a good percentage are millennials in the 20 - 30 something age bracket. It's all about "generation me". For some reason they feel a sense of entitlement and want things handed to them rather than to work for it. The popularity of social media is evidence of their narcissistic traits. Of course I'm generalizing but you get my drift. There's nothing wrong with SB / SD arrangements as long as you can afford it. It's just not for everyone.

GMan808
03-28-17, 00:37
It shouldn't surprise you. I'm sure a good percentage are millennials in the 20 - 30 something age bracket. It's all about "generation me". For some reason they feel a sense of entitlement and want things handed to them rather than to work for it. The popularity of social media is evidence of their narcissistic traits. Of course I'm generalizing but you get my drift. There's nothing wrong with SB / SD arrangements as long as you can afford it. It's just not for everyone.Totally agree. I backtracked and got the one I had passed on earlier and have meet ups with another one. Its just amazing because for $500 some of the girls are totally hot like OMG I could never date her naturally kind of hot to somewhat average and they want more.

This is definitely a supply and demand game so if they demand $$ and someone will supply the $$ they want. Then perfect -its an arrangement.

Do your homework because the girls are.

GMan808
03-28-17, 00:39
Believe me the price of admission is worth it. 78 bucks I think to become a premium member? Do it and you won't be sorry. LOL and you want to know something some of those chicks are super hot and not all used up like your typical hot MP girl.Yes, the $79 is totally worth it and there are new girls joining all the time. Hawaii being a tourist destination also means you could get a hottie from the mainland right in waikiki -- win-win since their vacation is getting paid for and your can spend time with a young gorgeous girl that just wants to see the natural hawaii.

BotoMoco
03-28-17, 11:58
Yes, the $79 is totally worth it and there are new girls joining all the time. Hawaii being a tourist destination also means you could get a hottie from the mainland right in waikiki -- win-win since their vacation is getting paid for and your can spend time with a young gorgeous girl that just wants to see the natural hawaii.I also forgot to add that when you sign up you can check out any city in the US and set up your date beforehand. Worked great for me. Theres more competition on the mainland so its a little easier hooking up. It just takes time and diligence.

JabroniAdams
04-02-17, 18:27
I also forgot to add that when you sign up you can check out any city in the US and set up your date beforehand. Worked great for me. Theres more competition on the mainland so its a little easier hooking up. It just takes time and diligence.Mind letting us know which city you visited to set up dates? I'm planning a trip to LA and anyone that I've messaged that I find attractive (I'm not talking only about the bombshells that are 9's and 10's). Wants a ridiculous PPM arrangement of $1,000+. And the rest of them that aren't asking for four figure meets, seem extremely scorn from "flakes, liars, and d-bags". I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same experience.

Hickory747
04-05-17, 01:56
I have two that are solid. One local mix girl (27) and a UH student (22). We were up front with each other and the arrangements agreed upon suited both parties. Standing pat for now. No need to spread myself too thin.

ClintonPortis
04-05-17, 03:49
I have two that are solid. One local mix girl (27) and a UH student (22). We were up front with each other and the arrangements agreed upon suited both parties. Standing pat for now. No need to spread myself too thin.May I ask how much you agreed to pay? I've seen quotes from as low as 100 to as high as 2000 here.

Communicated with a great looking girl in her 20's. You know how much she felt she was entitled to? 700 freaking dollars.

L (virtually) laughed in her face.

Hickory747
04-05-17, 12:09
The 27 year old:

300 for the act and I cover the hotel, food and drink etc. , which is customary IMHO. And this is overnight / multiple hour type meet ups.

Everything except anal and all BB so far.

The 22 year old:

Same but 200.

Oral is BB but CFS and anal is off the table.

There you have it!


May I ask how much you agreed to pay? I've seen quotes from as low as 100 to as high as 2000 here.

Communicated with a great looking girl in her 20's. You know how much she felt she was entitled to? 700 freaking dollars.

L (virtually) laughed in her face.

BotoMoco
04-05-17, 12:51
Mind letting us know which city you visited to set up dates? I'm planning a trip to LA and anyone that I've messaged that I find attractive (I'm not talking only about the bombshells that are 9's and 10's). Wants a ridiculous PPM arrangement of $1,000+. And the rest of them that aren't asking for four figure meets, seem extremely scorn from "flakes, liars, and d-bags". I'm wondering if anyone else is having the same experience.I was in LA and true they want 1 k but have to weed through them. You just have to mass email and see where it goes. Happy hunting.

BotoPower
04-06-17, 00:24
You've been quoted $300 to $2000? Wow. That's a lot higher than what another monger here has reported (more in the 100-200 range). Those ladies better be perfect 10's for those amounts. LOL.

Thanks for the info. I've been getting a few messages trickling in. One from a hapa girl in Aiea that most of you bruddahs would love but who isn't really my type (not into hapa look). A couple from overseas that are more my type. But since I'm not a premium member, I can't read any of them.From my experiences I don't believe the $100-200 rates. No ways. The lowest I've seen is $300 and it goes up from there. I say good luck to the girl but I guess apparently some guys are paying that? Must be.

Makana9
04-06-17, 14:54
Bc I wanted to explore something else new. Two of you Srs. And I have been talking so this is the same story. Did the SA member thing, ending up conversing with one in LA, another in PI, for the bs scam thing I guessing, but some locals too. Was not sure on one, sounded way too clinging. One other 30's from Kaneohe, local asian and for some of you on SA might know who I talking about. She is cool, did the coffee shop after she done work, single mom, works in Waiks. Did lunch, talked some, will info you all where it goes. The other, a 20 something student for her masters, was on the dance / cheering squad, cute as a button. Solid but 5-2, mixed local, did the same, coffee shop close cause she wanted to meet like asap, so Wth! Talked through lunch, said she needed to get back to class so she hugged and pe ked me on the cheek, told her to text me if she wanted to get together again, she smiled and said definitely. Got to love the educated local girl. Picture her walking away, those washed ripped jeans, dancer legs, calves, and ass. Tight as hell, got horney but needed to get to a mtg. , damn was going to call Junko, but no can. She texted me later that night if we could go out and geta bite to eat, ok my head said, aww well not too late? Because thought she got to study, she said, she needed a break and wanted to see me again. She was dressed to kill, tight ass high butt shorts, and a top that showed off her fit tummy abs. She was tiny, but ate like a guy, we were at the Pig and the Lady. Good conversation, good spirits she was relaxing. We went to Murphys after to cruise, sat, talked and she moved tighter shoulder to shoulder hand on my thigh. Night went by fast, and she wanted to get back to her place up by Maunakea. Walking back grabbed my hand, and she sang and laughed all the way to her place. Deeper hug by the side of elevators, and little kisses, she giggled saying Ithienk I woke him up. She whispered she hasn't had dick in a year because of school, outside work and her practices, plus she said the 2 other guys were fkn. Jerks. I rubbed her back, then we were lfk to baby dfk, started rubbing her Bs, she moaned. She said cannot go up to her place cause of roomate (her dancemate), and I lived too far. We Dfk a bunch more, planned to go out Saturday, after we both were done with our schedules. Gave her some $$ for spend, she said no need because I paid for dinner and drinks. Friday she texted me a pic of her in the bathroom with only her sleep top, see through and her tramp stamp. Texted her you fkn teaser, she laughed. Nd said, see you soon. Saturday evening ended Monday afternoon when I took her to class. It was an adventure, and yupps, she was horny as fk, tight, wet, even had her squirt for the 1st time ever she said, multi cummer shaker.

We have seen each other couple times a week, and said why she love older guys. Good times, got lucky.

Vapor909
04-06-17, 19:29
Bc I wanted to explore something else new. Two of you Srs. And I have been talking so this is the same story. Did the SA member thing, ending up conversing with one in LA, another in PI, for the bs scam thing I guessing, but some locals too. Was not sure on one, sounded way too clinging. One other 30's from Kaneohe, local asian and for some of you on SA might know who I talking about. She is cool, did the coffee shop after she done work, single mom, works in Waiks. Did lunch, talked some, will info you all where it goes. The other, a 20 something student for her masters, was on the dance / cheering squad, cute as a button. Solid but 5-2, mixed local, did the same, coffee shop close cause she wanted to meet like asap, so Wth! Talked through lunch, said she needed to get back to class so she hugged and pe ked me on the cheek, told her to text me if she wanted to get together again, she smiled and said definitely. Got to love the educated local girl. Picture her walking away, those washed ripped jeans, dancer legs, calves, and ass. Tight as hell, got horney but needed to get to a mtg. , damn was going to call Junko, but no can. She texted me later that night if we could go out and geta bite to eat, ok my head said, aww well not too late? Because thought she got to study, she said, she needed a break and wanted to see me again. She was dressed to kill, tight ass high butt shorts, and a top that showed off her fit tummy abs. She was tiny, but ate like a guy, we were at the Pig and the Lady. Good conversation, good spirits she was relaxing. We went to Murphys after to cruise, sat, talked and she moved tighter shoulder to shoulder hand on my thigh. Night went by fast, and she wanted to get back to her place up by Maunakea. Walking back grabbed my hand, and she sang and laughed all the way to her place. Deeper hug by the side of elevators, and little kisses, she giggled saying Ithienk I woke him up. She whispered she hasn't had dick in a year because of school, outside work and her practices, plus she said the 2 other guys were fkn. Jerks. I rubbed her back, then we were lfk to baby dfk, started rubbing her Bs, she moaned. She said cannot go up to her place cause of roomate (her dancemate), and I lived too far. We Dfk a bunch more, planned to go out Saturday, after we both were done with our schedules. Gave her some $$ for spend, she said no need because I paid for dinner and drinks. Friday she texted me a pic of her in the bathroom with only her sleep top, see through and her tramp stamp. Texted her you fkn teaser, she laughed. Nd said, see you soon. Saturday evening ended Monday afternoon when I took her to class. It was an adventure, and yupps, she was horny as fk, tight, wet, even had her squirt for the 1st time ever she said, multi cummer shaker.

We have seen each other couple times a week, and said why she love older guys. Good times, got lucky.Ho Makana you still the Man!

Poiuy2
04-06-17, 22:15
Hi Braddah Makana. You faka. How old you stay? And you can still score college chicks. You must be a local Adonis. I can only get late twenties early thirties. Getting old and not so attractive. LOL.


Bc I wanted to explore something else new. Two of you Srs. And I have been talking so this is the same story. Did the SA member thing, ending up conversing with one in LA, another in PI, for the bs scam thing I guessing, but some locals too. Was not sure on one, sounded way too clinging. One other 30's from Kaneohe, local asian and for some of you on SA might know who I talking about. She is cool, did the coffee shop after she done work, single mom, works in Waiks. Did lunch, talked some, will info you all where it goes. The other, a 20 something student for her masters, was on the dance / cheering squad, cute as a button. Solid but 5-2, mixed local, did the same, coffee shop close cause she wanted to meet like asap, so Wth! Talked through lunch, said she needed to get back to class so she hugged and pe ked me on the cheek, told her to text me if she wanted to get together again, she smiled and said definitely. Got to love the educated local girl. Picture her walking away, those washed ripped jeans, dancer legs, calves, and ass. Tight as hell, got horney but needed to get to a mtg. , damn was going to call Junko, but no can. She texted me later that night if we could go out and geta bite to eat, ok my head said, aww well not too late? Because thought she got to study, she said, she needed a break and wanted to see me again. She was dressed to kill, tight ass high butt shorts, and a top that showed off her fit tummy abs. She was tiny, but ate like a guy, we were at the Pig and the Lady. Good conversation, good spirits she was relaxing. We went to Murphys after to cruise, sat, talked and she moved tighter shoulder to shoulder hand on my thigh. Night went by fast, and she wanted to get back to her place up by Maunakea. Walking back grabbed my hand, and she sang and laughed all the way to her place. Deeper hug by the side of elevators, and little kisses, she giggled saying Ithienk I woke him up. She whispered she hasn't had dick in a year because of school, outside work and her practices, plus she said the 2 other guys were fkn. Jerks. I rubbed her back, then we were lfk to baby dfk, started rubbing her Bs, she moaned. She said cannot go up to her place cause of roomate (her dancemate), and I lived too far. We Dfk a bunch more, planned to go out Saturday, after we both were done with our schedules. Gave her some $$ for spend, she said no need because I paid for dinner and drinks. Friday she texted me a pic of her in the bathroom with only her sleep top, see through and her tramp stamp. Texted her you fkn teaser, she laughed. Nd said, see you soon. Saturday evening ended Monday afternoon when I took her to class. It was an adventure, and yupps, she was horny as fk, tight, wet, even had her squirt for the 1st time ever she said, multi cummer shaker.

We have seen each other couple times a week, and said why she love older guys. Good times, got lucky.

BallnChain808
04-06-17, 23:56
Bc I wanted to explore something else new. Two of you Srs. And I have been talking so this is the same story. Did the SA member thing, ending up conversing with one in LA, another in PI, for the bs scam thing I guessing, but some locals too. Was not sure on one, sounded way too clinging. One other 30's from Kaneohe, local asian and for some of you on SA might know who I talking about. She is cool, did the coffee shop after she done work, single mom, works in Waiks. Did lunch, talked some, will info you all where it goes. The other, a 20 something student for her masters, was on the dance / cheering squad, cute as a button. Solid but 5-2, mixed local, did the same, coffee shop close cause she wanted to meet like asap, so Wth! Talked through lunch, said she needed to get back to class so she hugged and pe ked me on the cheek, told her to text me if she wanted to get together again, she smiled and said definitely. Got to love the educated local girl. Picture her walking away, those washed ripped jeans, dancer legs, calves, and ass. Tight as hell, got horney but needed to get to a mtg. , damn was going to call Junko, but no can. She texted me later that night if we could go out and geta bite to eat, ok my head said, aww well not too late? Because thought she got to study, she said, she needed a break and wanted to see me again. She was dressed to kill, tight ass high butt shorts, and a top that showed off her fit tummy abs. She was tiny, but ate like a guy, we were at the Pig and the Lady..Damn brother. That's some good stuff right there. And I'm freaking jealous because I work in Downtown and probably seen that cutie walking around Fort Street Mall.

Did you know, sharing is caring in Hawaii. Lololol.

I was hesitant to renew my membership to SA but after reading this, I'm going to re-up right away! There's been a few more scammers locally than before. Sucks but that's the game right?

Makana9
04-08-17, 10:16
Hi Braddah Makana. You faka. How old you stay? And you can still score college chicks. You must be a local Adonis. I can only get late twenties early thirties. Getting old and not so attractive. LOL.Just lucky, had my share of scammers, ripoffs, and gold digger so learned through age and business. For some ass reason we clicked the first 15 minutes. Not an adonis, normal guy who does not workout as much as before (BJJ, 24 fitness, and ocean stuff) Still msitaken as a fireman or lifeguard so lucky I guess. Kind of like that pornhub vid with the older guy in his early 50's healthy Whole foods braddah with the young asian his friend talked to on the park bench. If I find the link, I will post. She is sweet, not as experienced as a Angela fame or Coco BBBJ or or msog Eryn, but gamed and horny as fk. My horny ass classmate from elem. School told me I should teach a class on how to msog O'd by just eating kitty, she has had her share as a MILF / cougar. Had acouple of good teachers from hanna butta days that works in my favor plus my waha is a smooth talker, so says my ex. My other friend GK is a better adonis, so he get his share too, just lucky I guess. Like in sales, not afraid when they say no and had my share. But not wierd as they say, just lucky.

Makana9
04-08-17, 10:36
Damn brother. That's some good stuff right there. And I'm freaking jealous because I work in Downtown and probably seen that cutie walking around Fort Street Mall.

Did you know, sharing is caring in Hawaii. Lololol.

I was hesitant to renew my membership to SA but after reading this, I'm going to re-up right away! There's been a few more scammers locally than before. Sucks but that's the game right?A smile goes a long way, and I do say Hi, hope your day is going well? That usually starts a conversation, and the wall comes down, and I do not get weird. Just local biy style, fun, make her laugh I say. Kala wise for the 20 something old from HPU? For the last month? About. 1 K, given to her and FYI. That is way less I would pay for lame massages in CC, AMP action, indy (Junko or eryn or Kaimuki Lani) in a moth. Plus, she is sweet and good to hang around, and she wants to learn about mentor as a business owner, wo its luckby draw. Remember why we seek the ampor cc or indy. After we done fkn our brains out, we pay you to go away and or we leave with nsa. SA and the girl I am seeing, is that, jsut enjoying my good times for now. But, what others might say since our island is so small? Personally I do not care but really careful since the type of businesses I run here and in the Pacific. Real life tv show.

SlappinBellies
04-09-17, 03:54
From my experiences I don't believe the $100-200 rates. No ways. The lowest I've seen is $300 and it goes up from there. I say good luck to the girl but I guess apparently some guys are paying that? Must be.Yah, the $100 rates are BS. The lowest I've gotten quoted was $200. The highest was $10,000 for a month stay in Waiks. I passed.

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Was there a full moon. These posts made around 9 of these

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KidFarian
04-16-17, 23:55
Quick and to the point. I've been on SA for a week and met one got a HJ in my car on the first day, didn't follow up bc she's a bit bigger than I needed. She's probably available if you guys want to PM for her screen name. I'm texting five on my burner so I'll let everyone know how they go. A few have asked straight up how much and I started at $200 per, one said ok, others came back with $300 for a first meeting. I believe theirs some play available but I'm skeptical until I actually meet another and actually complete a mission. I'm supposed to meet one on Tuesday so I'll get back this week with more details. Wish me luck.

The Kid.

Surfer Ten
04-17-17, 22:08
Sad to see that Brother FutSniffA got banned. He shared a lot of info with me and gave me some great advise for scoring on the SA website. I followed his advise and scored big time and for far less than I probably would have spent had he not warned me of the pitfalls and mistakes one could make with some of the more devious women on that site. I was really surprised at how successful I was on this site versus sites like AFF, POF and Tinder. So, while SA is a little pricey, my ROI has been totally worth it compared to those other sites. As far as the selection on SA goes, you can see from so many of the young hottie's profiles, many are just wanting sugar daddies who want companionship or arm candy and they say so straight off the bat that they will not be intimate. While I can't imagine I would ever be interested in paying top dollar for a hot 20 something year old for companionship, I am sure there are many guys who would so that's great for those brothers!

After contacting and corresponding with a few women I still hadn't scored. So, I started playing with the filters on the search function and was able to narrow the field to profiles that I thought had a better indication that they were looking for what I was looking for which was simply a "mutually" beneficial arrangement with no commitments, no strings, no drama, no complications. This really helped and now I was fishing in very productive waters!

As far as cost goes, my experience as been quite similar to the other brothers who have tried this out. There was one absolutely absurd woman who wanted as much as $1,000.00 to go out to dinner with me and be arm candy. WTF? I have to pay you one grand to take you dinner at La Mer which I also get to pay for because you are such an awesome conversationalist and look so pretty? Hahaha! No fucking way! There was another who was married and said her husband knew and accepted what she was doing. She only charged $200.00 per hour to go to dinner or parties as arm candy. She was not bad looking but not worth $200.00 per hour as a dinner or party date. The lowest I paid for a transaction or "pay per play" date was $120.00. It was very simple and straight forward. We met for coffee, had wonderful rapport, ended up having lunch and exchanging phone numbers. She called a couple of days later and told me that she was sorry that she called but needed help making her rent. I asked her what she had in mind and she said I'll massage you and give you a happy ending for $100.00. I said hell yeah! So, she came over to my place, I got naked and she actually gave me a pretty decent massage. While she was giving me a very sensual HJ, I started roaming and by the time I reached her pussy by sliding my hand under her shorts, she was soaking wet. After rubbing her swollen clit a little bit, she was moaning and said, can you please fuck me? Hell yes, I can do that! We had an amazing time and all I had with me was $120.00 which she said was fine as we agreed on $100.00 and the fuck was a bonus! Hahaha! We saw each other several times after that and I paid her $200.00 per session which was a great deal for me as she'd stay for 3 to 4 hours each time. Way cheaper than an AMP and she was an incredible fuck!

Many women on the site want an allowance as opposed to a pay for each play type of "transaction" date. At first I thought I'd never agree to that type of arrangement as it could put me at a disadvantage in trying to "collect". But, I found a real gem and from an initial pay for play deal of $200.00 per play. I now give her an allowance of $500.00 per week. For that allowance, I get one entire day with her plus up to 2 "quickies" a week. On my day with her, we usually fuck, then go get something to eat, cruise around, maybe go to the beach or the movies, come back and fuck again and then fall asleep. Of course, when we wake up, we fuck again, then she goes home and I'm a fucking happy camper! My "quickies" are great because we'll meet up somewhere usually during the day, she'll jump in my truck and I'll drive somewhere, park and get a nice BJ, drop her off and it's back to work for me with a shit eating grin on my face!

Anyway, just wanted to share. Hope you brothers out there are getting some awesome results as well!

Much Aloha!

ST.

KidFarian
04-18-17, 00:17
Sad to see that Brother FutSniffA got banned. He shared a lot of info with me and gave me some great advise for scoring on the SA website. I followed his advise and scored big time and for far less than I probably would have spent had he not warned me of the pitfalls and mistakes one could make with some of the more devious women on that site. I was really surprised at how successful I was on this site versus sites like AFF, POF and Tinder. So, while SA is a little pricey, my ROI has been totally worth it compared to those other sites. As far as the selection on SA goes, you can see from so many of the young hottie's profiles, many are just wanting sugar daddies who want companionship or arm candy and they say so straight off the bat that they will not be intimate. While I can't imagine I would ever be interested in paying top dollar for a hot 20 something year old for companionship, I am sure there are many guys who would so that's great for those brothers!

After contacting and corresponding with a few women I still hadn't scored. So, I started playing with the filters on the search function and was able to narrow the field to profiles that I thought had a better indication that they were looking for what I was looking for which was simply a "mutually" beneficial arrangement with no commitments, no strings, no drama, no complications. This really helped and now I was fishing in very productive waters!

As far as cost goes, my experience as been quite similar to the other brothers who have tried this out. There was one absolutely absurd woman who wanted as much as $1,000.00 to go out to dinner with me and be arm candy. WTF? I have to pay you one grand to take you dinner at La Mer which I also get to pay for because you are such an awesome conversationalist and look so pretty? Hahaha! No fucking way! There was another who was married and said her husband knew and accepted what she was doing. She only charged $200.00 per hour to go to dinner or parties as arm candy. She was not bad looking but not worth $200.00 per hour as a dinner or party date. The lowest I paid for a transaction or "pay per play" date was $120.00. It was very simple and straight forward. We met for coffee, had wonderful rapport, ended up having lunch and exchanging phone numbers. She called a couple of days later and told me that she was sorry that she called but needed help making her rent. I asked her what she had in mind and she said I'll massage you and give you a happy ending for $100.00. I said hell yeah! So, she came over to my place, I got naked and she actually gave me a pretty decent massage. While she was giving me a very sensual HJ, I started roaming and by the time I reached her pussy by sliding my hand under her shorts, she was soaking wet. After rubbing her swollen clit a little bit, she was moaning and said, can you please fuck me? Hell yes, I can do that! We had an amazing time and all I had with me was $120.00 which she said was fine as we agreed on $100.00 and the fuck was a bonus! Hahaha! We saw each other several times after that and I paid her $200.00 per session which was a great deal for me as she'd stay for 3 to 4 hours each time. Way cheaper than an AMP and she was an incredible fuck!

Many women on the site want an allowance as opposed to a pay for each play type of "transaction" date. At first I thought I'd never agree to that type of arrangement as it could put me at a disadvantage in trying to "collect". But, I found a real gem and from an initial pay for play deal of $200.00 per play. I now give her an allowance of $500.00 per week. For that allowance, I get one entire day with her plus up to 2 "quickies" a week. On my day with her, we usually fuck, then go get something to eat, cruise around, maybe go to the beach or the movies, come back and fuck again and then fall asleep. Of course, when we wake up, we fuck again, then she goes home and I'm a fucking happy camper! My "quickies" are great because we'll meet up somewhere usually during the day, she'll jump in my truck and I'll drive somewhere, park and get a nice BJ, drop her off and it's back to work for me with a shit eating grin on my face!

Anyway, just wanted to share. Hope you brothers out there are getting some awesome results as well!

Much Aloha!

ST.Do you use a mobile app or website to filter them out?

Surfer Ten
04-18-17, 01:20
Do you use a mobile app or website to filter them out?Aloha KidFarian,

I just use the profile text on the website. Just type in stuff like mutual, benefits or fwb. It will find profiles with the key word in it. So, since I'm looking for a "mutually beneficial" arrangement, finding profiles with certain key words are so much better than having to go through every one. You can also filter by age, ethnicity, and lifestyle which is especially important if you are looking for more financially reasonable agreements. After a while you can get a pretty good idea of the person by their profile and the photos they post. It's easy to spot the ones who will try to take you to the cleaners. What I thought was interesting is when I ask each person I ended up meeting through this site how they found out about it, all of them said one of their girlfriends recommended it. The only one that said otherwise was that chick I met that offered the massage and HJ that ended up being a full on fuck. She said that she found the website while doing a Google search for "sugar daddy" after she saw an ad on Craigslist from a guy that was seeking a sugar baby. Hahaha!

ST.

Makana9
04-18-17, 11:32
Sad to see that Brother FutSniffA got banned. He shared a lot of info with me and gave me some great advise for scoring on the SA website. I followed his advise and scored big time and for far less than I probably would have spent had he not warned me of the pitfalls and mistakes one could make with some of the more devious women on that site. I was really surprised at how successful I was on this site versus sites like AFF, POF and Tinder. So, while SA is a little pricey, my ROI has been totally worth it compared to those other sites. As far as the selection on SA goes, you can see from so many of the young hottie's profiles, many are just wanting sugar daddies who want companionship or arm candy and they say so straight off the bat that they will not be intimate. While I can't imagine I would ever be interested in paying top dollar for a hot 20 something year old for companionship, I am sure there are many guys who would so that's great for those brothers!

After contacting and corresponding with a few women I still hadn't scored. So, I started playing with the filters on the search function and was able to narrow the field to profiles that I thought had a better indication that they were looking for what I was looking for which was simply a "mutually" beneficial arrangement with no commitments, no strings, no drama, no complications. This really helped and now I was fishing in very productive waters!

As far as cost goes, my experience as been quite similar to the other brothers who have tried this out. There was one absolutely absurd woman who wanted as much as $1,000.00 to go out to dinner with me and be arm candy. WTF? I have to pay you one grand to take you dinner at La Mer which I also get to pay for because you are such an awesome conversationalist and look so pretty? Hahaha! No fucking way! There was another who was married and said her husband knew and accepted what she was doing. She only charged $200.00 per hour to go to dinner or parties as arm candy. She was not bad looking but not worth $200.00 per hour as a dinner or party date. The lowest I paid for a transaction or "pay per play" date was $120.00. It was very simple and straight forward. We met for coffee, had wonderful rapport, ended up having lunch and exchanging phone numbers. She called a couple of days later and told me that she was sorry that she called but needed help making her rent. I asked her what she had in mind and she said I'll massage you and give you a happy ending for $100.00. I said hell yeah! So, she came over to my place, I got naked and she actually gave me a pretty decent massage. While she was giving me a very sensual HJ, I started roaming and by the time I reached her pussy by sliding my hand under her shorts, she was soaking wet. After rubbing her swollen clit a little bit, she was moaning and said, can you please fuck me? Hell yes, I can do that! We had an amazing time and all I had with me was $120.00 which she said was fine as we agreed on $100.00 and the fuck was a bonus! Hahaha! We saw each other several times after that and I paid her $200.00 per session which was a great deal for me as she'd stay for 3 to 4 hours each time. Way cheaper than an AMP and she was an incredible fuck!

Many women on the site want an allowance as opposed to a pay for each play type of "transaction" date. At first I thought I'd never agree to that type of arrangement as it could put me at a disadvantage in trying to "collect". But, I found a real gem and from an initial pay for play deal of $200.00 per play. I now give her an allowance of $500.00 per week. For that allowance, I get one entire day with her plus up to 2 "quickies" a week. On my day with her, we usually fuck, then go get something to eat, cruise around, maybe go to the beach or the movies, come back and fuck again and then fall asleep. Of course, when we wake up, we fuck again, then she goes home and I'm a fucking happy camper! My "quickies" are great because we'll meet up somewhere usually during the day, she'll jump in my truck and I'll drive somewhere, park and get a nice BJ, drop her off and it's back to work for me with a shit eating grin on my face!

Anyway, just wanted to share. Hope you brothers out there are getting some awesome results as well!

Much Aloha!

ST.You found out exactly what I have been trying to say. It can work out, patience, filter like crazy, and some luck. I am still seeing the before mentioned in an earlier post here. I totally understand that the $$ price for most is crazy tough, But I now have a good friend and business cohort Thanking me because he tried and this past month and had the best weekend. I spoke with her too through text and other convo but was not my cup of jamba. He loved the hapamix, 30 something babette. I not. Going give out more info cause those on the SA going figure out easy who I talking about. Sorry SA braddahs, he said they going see each other because mutual, and looking between 400-500/ mo. For some, that is choke change, but for others they spending that much in MT w / he, AMP, indy, kb or vb and sideaction, so I see it the same way. For me, right uf, the stealth Hawaiian. I going 411 here, we see each other about 3 times a week before (more now because she and her roomate) started and now opened a business together and wanted a biz mentor (where I come "no pun intended). Helped them get the correct paperwork, SBA, ALK asst. , and negotiate good space lease w / o getting raped by the Bldg owner. Her friend wanted to put me on as a consultant salary, I said No. We keep business and personal separate, even though we did bang the hell out of each other in her newly painted office. She receives from me $1500/ mo. It is mb fwb. Works for both of us as we spoke. Nsa, fwb, that enjoy each others company, even though her good friend said to me, she never seen her friend so happy, and thinks she is love? Not! Her friend doesn't know, but I think she does. For Easter weekend, it did turn heads when they see a mid age guy with a dressed to the nines tight thigh high mid backless dress for dinner. Enjoying life while I can. Never know when things can change and bs happens. SA not for everyone to me.

YzalMan
04-24-17, 04:01
I recently decided to move from AMP scene to SB & arrangements world. Regardless of how I look, so far I have gotten a good response which really makes me feel good.

The quote I have been getting is normally 3 x if not 2 x more than AMPs. I love the fact that in these arrangements how it is very straight forward and one on one interaction. I would like to ask all the experts here if that price is really worth it? I have an appointment set up for the coming week and my heart is pounding in excitement. What tips can you give me for my first time going in to SD arrangement?

Thank you as always.

Surfer Ten
04-25-17, 22:17
I recently decided to move from AMP scene to SB & arrangements world. Regardless of how I look, so far I have gotten a good response which really makes me feel good.

The quote I have been getting is normally 3 x if not 2 x more than AMPs. I love the fact that in these arrangements how it is very straight forward and one on one interaction. I would like to ask all the experts here if that price is really worth it? I have an appointment set up for the coming week and my heart is pounding in excitement. What tips can you give me for my first time going in to SD arrangement?

Thank you as always.Aloha brother,

First of all, I am by no means an "expert" on SB and Arrangements. But, I did want to respond to your question, is the price really worth it? For me it is. I am looking for an attractive, sane, woman for a couple of hours of safe, discreet, no hassle, no drama pleasure each week. I am perfectly willing to pay more for this than what I would pay at an AMP because I am receiving more. What do I mean by more? For starters, my sugar baby may not be as gorgeous as some of the hot AMP girls. But, I get to play with her for hours, no rush, no mama knocking on the door, no chance of running into a client or colleague when I'm entering or exiting a condo at CC. I also would rather do stuff like DATY on my sugar baby who is only fucking me as opposed to my favorite AMP girls who fuck at least 5 guys a day, 6 days a week.

Sure, there are some really hot women on that site that are asking for "luxury import" prices. Shit, one of them wanted to charge me $500.00 to take her out to dinner and then out for cocktails later with no sex! WTF? And here's the hilarious part, she wasn't even that attractive!! That's definitely not what I am looking for. But, there are a lot of very attractive, down to earth, honest, hard working women on there as well. Many of them have families (husbands, boyfriends, kids) they have jobs, responsibilities, obligations, etc. The cost of living is so high in Hawaii and so many of them are realizing that a sugar daddy or two can make a big difference in their lives and hell, if that sugar daddy happens to be a great fuck, even better! How else are they going to pull in a second "paycheck" worth 2 to 4 grand a month for "working" less than 40 hours a month. Damn, that's better than most of them make if you break it down by the hour.

I've experienced what you have so far with "transactional" prices starting at lows of $300.00 up to $500+ per hour. I've found some that will go lower and if you are lucky, you can catch some who are in tight spot that will do a session for less. I've also found that if you can negotiate an "allowance" type of deal, you will get way more bang for your buck. You need to be careful about allowances as it could be hard to collect if you pay in advance. It all comes down to trust though. If you find a good one, she'll appreciate the relationship and understand that she needs to take care of the goose that's laying all the golden eggs.

Like anything else, it is what you make of it. Spend the time reading profiles, correspond with ones you feel you have a connection with, meet the ones you like face to face and get comfortable with them before you make an offer. What has always worked for me is to be crystal clear about what you want and expect from the relationship and be sure that you completely understand what she wants and expects from the relationship. Have clear ground rules and you will avoid many problems. Never assume she knows or think she should know. Instead, always assume she doesn't know and make sure you tell her stuff like do not call me after 10:00 pm, if you really need to talk to me, text this code: xxxxxx xxxx xxx (or something like that) My sugar baby knows that I have a SO and I'm with her most evenings. If she needs to talk to me and it's after 10:00, she will block her number and send me a code we made up. I will know it's her and she needs to talk to me. At that point, I can make up an excuse to get out of the house (forgot something in my truck and need to get it) or I will text her and tell her I can't talk.

One caveat that a good brother warned me about, make sure they understand that you are not paying them anything on the initial meet and greet. I know it sounds amazing, but there are women who expect to be paid for the time they spend with you on the first meeting. Also, you never want to discuss price via phone, text or email. Always do that face to face and after you are comfortable with her. I have never heard of LE doing a sting on the SA site but they are smart and someday could put out some traps. Some dumb monger will get his ass caught by doing something stupid like texting "how much do you charge for a suck and fuck"? LOL!

Anyway brother, as I said, I am definitely not an expert at this, not handsome and no mo game like brother Makana LOL! But, SA is far better than any of the other (POF, AFF, CL, BP) sites I've tried by a long shot. Sure it does cost more than at the AMP. But, it's a totally different game so it's like comparing apples and oranges. I really enjoy it and still go see my AFTs at the AMPs once in a while.

Hope you find some winnahs!

ST.

BallnChain808
04-26-17, 20:46
Aloha brother,

First of all, I am by no means an "expert" on SB and Arrangements. But, I did want to respond to your question, is the price really worth it? For me it is. I am looking for an attractive, sane, woman for a couple of hours of safe, discreet, no hassle, no drama pleasure each week. I am perfectly willing to pay more for this than what I would pay at an AMP because I am receiving more. What do I mean by more? For starters, my sugar baby may not be as gorgeous as some of the hot AMP girls. But, I get to play with her for hours, no rush, no mama knocking on the door, no chance of running into a client or colleague when I'm entering or exiting a condo at CC. I also would rather do stuff like DATY on my sugar baby who is only fucking me as opposed to my favorite AMP girls who fuck at least 5 guys a day, 6 days a week.

Sure, there are some really hot women on that site that are asking for "luxury import" prices. Shit, one of them wanted to charge me $500.00 to take her out to dinner and then out for cocktails later with no sex! WTF? And here's the hilarious part, she wasn't even that attractive!! That's definitely not what I am looking for. But, there are a lot of very attractive, down to earth, honest, hard working women on there as well. Many of them have families (husbands, boyfriends, kids) they have jobs, responsibilities, obligations, etc. The cost of living is so high in Hawaii and so many of them are realizing that a sugar daddy or two can make a big difference in their lives and hell, if that sugar daddy happens to be a great fuck, even better! How else are they going to pull in a second "paycheck" worth 2 to 4 grand a month for "working" less than 40 hours a month. Damn, that's better than most of them make if you break it down by the hour..That's some good stuff there brother. Fricken Makana is savage bro.

I got to agree with you about the transition from AMP to SA. I still frequent my two favorite AMPs because sometimes a brother needs a good quick fix. But I love the "rush" of meeting someone new that's sane, just a "regular" person that you'd otherwise pass by on the sidewalk. My SO is great, no need to ruin that so just be careful on SA. This island is too damn small.

Good luck guys. Keep us updated.

Makana9
05-02-17, 15:30
That's some good stuff their brother. Fricken Makana is savage bro.

I got to agree with you about the transition from AMP to SA. I still frequent my two favorite AMPs because sometimes a brother needs a good quick fix. But I love the "rush" of meeting someone new that's sane, just a "regular" person that you'd otherwise pass by on the sidewalk. My SO is great, no need to ruin that so just be careful on SA. This island is too damn small.

Good luck guys. Keep us updated.If you check some of my earlier posts in different sections from Freebies to CL to others, always somehow been lucky. Do not get me wrong, I have gone through some bad providers, experiences with MTs, WSW, DTSW, Indies here as well as LA, Dallas, Chicago, and wherevers businesses has taken me. Truthfully like anything in life and especially my love to gamble and play big-time poker. Everything's a gamble, but you can narrow your odds if you trust your instincts and or do it with wisely means. OK, enough BS so called. How has the SA worked out, pretty good still seeing each other 3 times, sometimes more a week. As someone mentioned here, mutually balance with business advice and consultation from me for which their business is thriving in the DT area because of the density of people who use their services (will not divulge then some here will figure out who they are, sorry gang), mutual companionship with fwb where we have spent overnighters at my place and her place. Is it worth it? For me, yes because something different and not going to an Indie, CL, AMP, MT, I like it. Just me, and the sk and fk has been all 10's with lust, adventurist while cruising the island and beach. Trippy when she initiates many a times, but also loves to role play (her thing) from bad student to her wanting a massage to light bdsm. Exploring her naughty wicked wahine side as she tells me, and who am I going to grumble with. As Fluffy (Gabriel Inglesias) says, "SHOOTS" Her 30 m massage I am giving her turns into a sensual rub of kitty till she cumms and we are off to our G & P in the chambers. Enjoying it while I can, never know how fast things can change!

As for my friend, I told him careful, she starting to get clingy (his SA) and little more demanding. But knowing him, as what he likes.

Even had messages from the 2 that wanted to meet, what they would like to do with me, and after just messaging them playfully. Their demands of $5-$8 K a month, yea right! But the naked pics they sent was pretty hot, and not stolen! Those were all them after doing our regular online checks.

SA not for everyone.

Pretender311
05-16-17, 21:32
So I set up a profile on SA and attempted to search for girls before I paid the membership fee. According to SA, there are only four girls on island and that was with a wide open search parameter, literally trying every search option. Now I haven't paid the fee. Do a whole bunch of girls suddenly appear in the search results when you're a paying member?

KidFarian
05-17-17, 02:39
So I set up a profile on SA and attempted to search for girls before I paid the membership fee. According to SA, there are only four girls on island and that was with a wide open search parameter, literally trying every search option. Now I haven't paid the fee. Do a whole bunch of girls suddenly appear in the search results when you're a paying member?There are quite a bit girls available once you pay. I ran out of time but had about 10 good prospects. I work too much and couldn't follow up but I'll try again when I have more time. Good luck. Just be patient and persistent. I believe it will work out for you.

The Kid.

Member #5810
05-17-17, 06:41
I was on it for 3 months and it does really work, but like anything YMMV. I paid and put real pics up and got a lot of favorite and messages. But here it does depend on your looks if you want the hot girls. IMHO. My buddy who is TBH below average in looks got a lot of pros hitting him as well as cam. Girls. And naked pic girls. To get the real people I think it's girls. Choice. I met 7 and did have a great time. But it takes a lot of time. I'm more and AMP guy as I don't have time. To meet and greet. Gifts were 3 bills to 5 bills for a meeting.

Time. Was. About 2 hours for the fun. Greek was on the menu for 2 girls at. The high rate but it was all bb once I proved to them I was married. That qualified me. As a. Safe. Bet since couldn't risk. Catching anything. I only. Did P2 P so I was clear from. The start whaty. Arrangement terms. Were.

I liked the fact that on SA I met up with only white girls. AMP's have Asians so it was a great flavor change. I'm Asian but it was great to have white meat! And the girls I met were young. 22 to 27. Tight bodies of course.

All in all a great experience but too much time involved messaging and shit like that getting to know the person. Bit I did meet a girl from London here on vacation and a Romanian student. Damn. Sweet memories.

Good luck and be patient. Also, weed out the scammer chicks too.

Makana9
05-17-17, 15:36
I was on it for 3 months and it does really work, but like anything YMMV. I paid and put real pics up and got a lot of favorite and messages. But here it does depend on your looks if you want the hot girls. IMHO. My buddy who is TBH below average in looks got a lot of pros hitting him as well as cam. Girls. And naked pic girls. To get the real people I think it's girls. Choice. I met 7 and did have a great time. But it takes a lot of time. I'm more and AMP guy as I don't have time. To meet and greet. Gifts were 3 bills to 5 bills for a meeting.

Time. Was. About 2 hours for the fun. Greek was on the menu for 2 girls at. The high rate but it was all bb once I proved to them I was married. That qualified me. As a. Safe. Bet since couldn't risk. Catching anything. I only. Did P2 P so I was clear from. The start whaty. Arrangement terms. Were.

I liked the fact that on SA I met up with only white girls. AMP's have Asians so it was a great flavor change. I'm Asian but it was great to have white meat! And the girls I met were young. 22 to 27. Tight bodies of course.

All in all a great experience but too much time involved messaging and shit like that getting to know the person. Bit I did meet a girl from London here on vacation and a Romanian student. Damn. Sweet memories.

Good luck and be patient. Also, weed out the scammer chicks too.Braddah Raiden! Glad you enjoying SA. Never thought I would have had fun here, was skeptical. But I like trying new things and as some has mentioned the hunt. Met some really cool ladies, others cam scammers, others as thought all about the kala and companionship. Yea ok, but also boom boom. Luckily met 3, I mentioned 2 here, and one I met over the weekend here on a vaca from college. San Fran Flip with haole spaniglish so she pretty tall nice tight and adventurous, kind of like a visayan Salma Hayek. I'll post later about her, still seeing the regular one I met Few months ago, good action, and as I said she freakish loves to roleplay, haha. The other I met from Windwardside local went to Castle, she cool. She just calls I guess when she need side action from her lame ass hubby, plus she loves anal and Russian which her hubby no like, wtfh, so tapp ths holes. Had small kind ackward moment because was eating lunch same place with friends and ahe comes in with him / her 2 kids, talk about ackward. SA not for everyone, but for others, she go.

Member #5810
05-17-17, 20:23
Braddah Raiden! Glad you enjoying SA. Never thought I would have had fun here, was skeptical. But I like trying new things and as some has mentioned the hunt. Met some really cool ladies, others cam scammers, others as thought all about the kala and companionship. Yea ok, but also boom boom. Luckily met 3, I mentioned 2 here, and one I met over the weekend here on a vaca from college. San Fran Flip with haole spaniglish so she pretty tall nice tight and adventurous, kind of like a visayan Salma Hayek. I'll post later about her, still seeing the regular one I met Few months ago, good action, and as I said she freakish loves to roleplay, haha. The other I met from Windwardside local went to Castle, she cool. She just calls I guess when she need side action from her lame ass hubby, plus she loves anal and Russian which her hubby no like, wtfh, so tapp ths holes. Had small kind ackward moment because was eating lunch same place with friends and ahe comes in with him / her 2 kids, talk about ackward. SA not for everyone, but for others, she go.Haha thanks bruddah Makana. But, you my hero! I wish I had the karma like you. Whenever I read your posts, man oh man how I wish!

Yummy808
05-18-17, 04:05
First off props to braddah Makana and braddah Raiden for putting in work! Like Raiden says, Makana9 is my hero too. He can get action wherever he goes! So anyhow Makanas a good role model and we goin try our best for keep up! And SA. Ya it works. I spent years hunting on Skout and kik and tinder and got so many god damn trannys and cross dressers. Trying to dodge those is a pain. So #1 benefit of SA is that on my 3 month paid membership there were no trans on there that I saw. So thank goodness that real kittys for play with! #2 benefit is because SA is a paid site hopefully no more family or as many co workers on there for fun. Because I had a few close calls with family friends on skout and tinder so I cancelled my accounts. So on SA in three months I had lots of hits, about a dozen 2nd dates, and the five that I'd been banging I repeated with. Most were ok but could tell they were there to get the arrangement. Most was asking 2 x AMP rate. That didn't make sense to me becase still had to buy dinner or drinks at first. But for action they wanted big greenbacks. Might as well go AMP. LOL. But there are three that are solid. Sorry, can't really drop names because of the work we SA mongers got to put in to get them to be down. One is tall skinny filipina, here for college, just left for summer break back home. She cruises at the same places in the mainland where my homies cruise too but different generation, she half my age. About. LOL. We get along good, so we just cruise sometimes, hook up once a week, but we are in the same industry, so we talk about her future plans (I joke with her that she going be my sugar mama after!) thanks to my AMP training I taught her to really enjoy sex and to talk to me about what she likes best. Made me feel good when she said that her college athlete ex boyfriend was shetty in bed LOL. Best thing is that its turned into a real fwb. I'll get her nice things once in a while but it's all good. It doesn't feel like a transaction or like its expected. The other crazy haole girl from SA is here because it's paradise she said, I think she from kansas or kentucky. And its hard to get by here with just her regular waikiki tourist job. That one calls when she needs money I think LOL. And that one is good for maybe once a month, same rate as AMP, but the feeling isn't 100%. Reliable tho, but not as hot as the first one. The 3rd one is a little older and enjoys her sex so much that I can look past her age and body type, she is just a free spirit. That one AMP rates too. So I got what I got on SA while having a live-in SO. Just good planning. I try go to the girls place to cruise. But for all you guys with your own bachelor pad I really recommend SA. Its the best thing since bachelor pad and match dot com over ten years ago. Back then, was easy just buy them dinner and bring them back to the pad. Either some lovey action so theres another date, or its a good bye slam and pau, cya! LOL. Braddah Raiden, make sure that SA girls are on the pill or some kine BC, going BB is cool and all but if you have a SO then you don't want any surprise nine months later. One of them said she wasnt on any BC. And that if she get hapai then she going to keep'm. She got cut from my list! Have fun bros and play smart play safe.

JZLizard
05-18-17, 06:36
Hey guys, I post regularly to the Richmond sugar baby thread, but rarely outside it. This is a special information gathering request for a couple of questions that come up a lot, for SDs that have an SO and need to maintain anonymity in their "side activities".

If the two questions at the link below apply to you, do you mind to take a moment to post a reply in the Richmond thread? I will then include a link to your post in the official index, for the benefit of many.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not&p=3394311&viewfull=1#post3394311

Makana9
05-19-17, 12:45
Haha thanks bruddah Makana. But, you my hero! I wish I had the karma like you. Whenever I read your posts, man oh man how I wish!Nawww, some of you here are my idols! Braddahs SF, Kapalua, Raiden, Reds, and Hinode, I can just imagine what kinds trim they can get your hands on. Sorry if I missed anyone, old age does that BS to you. I have had my share of WTF losers and ripoffs, watching a DTSW run from my truck at the stop light, a pimp showing up at her Waikiki place while I was taking a shower and going off on me because his girl was just laying there all gaga, almost went westside on his ass when security showed up) plus another story when he was with his boys and ran off with his mouth almost lick his ass, like some of you who went to CC and others that got BS service then rushed off, among other ripoffs I rather not remember, but let you all know. And tried most of the online BS, AFF. Met some ok, some psychos, and a couple of gems; One couple back then, wanted to see his wife nailed by another (local girl, older guy) she was normal you know that one working for the state, go starbucks and jamba juice, ended that fwb when she kept calling me behind the husband's back just to get her nani pounded and licked while the husband found out and that ended. Tinder, skout, kik, pof, amongst the weeds you get some flowers. SA, is the same, only thing is as any the time, patience (remember old guy), and willing to sort through the bs and the true. I kind of got tired of AMPs, cause yes it is a business, but I always thought if you take care the customer, you will have one loyal for life. Life goes on, I still in stealth mode, maybe not as much, but still enjoy reading what you all going through, from the Clint Eastwood classic; "The Good, Bad, and the Ugly. " Keep up the good work, adventure, finding that diamond in the rough, jewel, or for me, just the one that will just take a licking and keep on ticking.

BallnChain808
05-19-17, 16:57
Nawww, some of you here are my idols! Braddahs SF, Kapalua, Raiden, Reds, and Hinode, I can just imagine what kinds trim they can get your hands on. Sorry if I missed anyone, old age does that BS to you. I have had my share of WTF losers and ripoffs, watching a DTSW run from my truck at the stop light, a pimp showing up at her Waikiki place while I was taking a shower and going off on me because his girl was just laying there all gaga, almost went westside on his ass when security showed up) plus another story when he was with his boys and ran off with his mouth almost lick his ass, like some of you who went to CC and others that got BS service then rushed off, among other ripoffs I rather not remember, but let you all know. And tried most of the online BS, AFF. Met some ok, some psychos, and a couple of gems; One couple back then, wanted to see his wife nailed by another (local girl, older guy) she was normal you know that one working for the state, go starbucks and jamba juice, ended that fwb when she kept calling me behind the husband's back just to get her nani pounded and licked while the husband found out and that ended. Tinder, skout, kik, pof, amongst the weeds you get some flowers. SA, is the same, only thing is as any the time, patience (remember old guy), and willing to sort through the bs and the true. I kind of got tired of AMPs, cause yes it is a business, but I always thought if you take care the customer, you will have one loyal for life. Life goes on, I still in stealth mode, maybe not as much, but still enjoy reading what you all going through, from the Clint Eastwood classic; "The Good, Bad, and the Ugly. " Keep up the good work, adventure, finding that diamond in the rough, jewel, or for me, just the one that will just take a licking and keep on ticking.Bruh. Those stories would make a killer movie hahaha! Yeah the OGs are heroes man. Started back in the day when there wasn't any fear of Uncle LEO showing up at the AMP, except to see who's available (haha!

Keep on reporting brother. Living vicariously through you!

NoStranger
05-26-17, 19:47
Have met with 8 SA sugar babes in the past year or so. Once each. Average "allowance" 300 to 500. Maybe 5 of the ladies have weighed about 20 pounds more than their pics. Bummer for me as I am just not attracted to larger women. Just the way I am wired. I am older and not able to be in public with "other" women so I am not a prime Daddy. The process does take extra time which is ok with me--I like the hunt. Mostly I have met with women under 25, though I like the 25-35 age group. They tend to want more bucks. Have not found a SB yet who has the refined sensual skills of the some of our MTs. There are a couple SB I could share if you are looking for an attractive and willing young one. I would like to find a perfect 8-8-8. Slim, uninhibited, stripper type who does not smoke. Asians are my preference (Koreans taste the best. . SA has more Haole chicks than other ethnic varieties. I have run into flakes and a few pros (Leah and Jenna Dean currently have profiles). And some very nice women. And some who HIGHLY value their worth. !

Yummy808
07-08-17, 05:50
I didn't try SA in Japan until I only had 10 days left in Tokyo. The girls are same mix as in Hawaii, broke youngins, expensive pros, and of course got cougars. Its a big city but seems like just a hand full are on SA, most speak some english. Its mostly same as regular dating game Japan style, meet at station at whichever exit, go eat or drink and hopefully play after. The youngins, like another member mentioned to me in PM, seemed dead inside, to me they are lost souls. I agree, but get past that awkward moments and they are still fun as hell once you're balls deep. They got issues like youngins anywhere. Paying rent, shltty roommates, job sucks. Best one was a real gem, 22 yo, curvy but dress super business like. Met for dinner and drinks, surprised me with hard PSE, broke the rubber but she didn't care, triple pop BBFSCIP, 30 k JPY but really worth it. Other one was out of it, stoned? 19 yo rocker chick, met her for drinks, in smoke smell hotel room, j-rock full blast from her ipod, fro Bush CFS pulling her hair and biting nipps. About 10 k JPY plus ghetto hotel room fee. Next, me and my Air Max 95's got with this bape wearing, NMD rocking college girl for drinks and got a free BBBJCIMWS on a bench night time in a park, had kids skating the stairs below the brick wall where we was. She said FS next time but our schedules didn't work out damn but I think she wanted big bucks, I would have gave LOL. And the cougars I visited one daytime at her small messy apartment, trade for some fresh made taiyaki omiyage from the station and 10 k JPY. Cheap deals. The other was thin, divorce, always smiling, clean townhouse, 20 k JPY, lazy GFE BBFS and good cuddles. Hell but the pros, they wanted like $700 to $1000 too rich for my taste and not my style. I didn't realize it, but pussy in Hawaii is so convenient. Japan, you got to work to figure out trains, find taxis or uber, and walk til you catch cramp. Then I try speak my crap japanese and pray for action. Was hard work, so funny, the kinda stuff we do just for hook up LOL. But still was fun for me because if didn't have SA those young hotties wouldn't give this local boy time of day. But surprising, good ratio, 5 for 5, lucky me, every meet worked out good. My co worker from Cali was pissed because he got shafted almost every night!

Dajiba55
07-08-17, 11:31
I didn't try SA in Japan until I only had 10 days left in Tokyo. The girls are same mix as in Hawaii, broke youngins, expensive pros, and of course got cougars. Its a big city but seems like just a hand full are on SA, most speak some english. Its mostly same as regular dating game Japan style, meet at station at whichever exit, go eat or drink and hopefully play after. The youngins, like another member mentioned to me in PM, seemed dead inside, to me they are lost souls. I agree, but get past that awkward moments and they are still fun as hell once you're balls deep. They got issues like youngins anywhere. Paying rent, shltty roommates, job sucks. Best one was a real gem, 22 yo, curvy but dress super business like. Met for dinner and drinks, surprised me with hard PSE, broke the rubber but she didn't care, triple pop BBFSCIP, 30 k JPY but really worth it. Other one was out of it, stoned? 19 yo rocker chick, met her for drinks, in smoke smell hotel room, j-rock full blast from her ipod, fro Bush CFS pulling her hair and biting nipps. About 10 k JPY plus ghetto hotel room fee. Next, me and my Air Max 95's got with this bape wearing, NMD rocking college girl for drinks and got a free BBBJCIMWS on a bench night time in a park, had kids skating the stairs below the brick wall where we was. She said FS next time but our schedules didn't work out damn but I think she wanted big bucks, I would have gave LOL. And the cougars I visited one daytime at her small messy apartment, trade for some fresh made taiyaki omiyage from the station and 10 k JPY. Cheap deals. The other was thin, divorce, always smiling, clean townhouse, 20 k JPY, lazy GFE BBFS and good cuddles. Hell but the pros, they wanted like $700 to $1000 too rich for my taste and not my style. I didn't realize it, but pussy in Hawaii is so convenient. Japan, you got to work to figure out trains, find taxis or uber, and walk til you catch cramp. Then I try speak my crap japanese and pray for action. Was hard work, so funny, the kinda stuff we do just for hook up LOL. But still was fun for me because if didn't have SA those young hotties wouldn't give this local boy time of day. But surprising, good ratio, 5 for 5, lucky me, every meet worked out good. My co worker from Cali was pissed because he got shafted almost every night!I was in Tokyo last summer, lots of ads in BP, the Russian girls were bait and switch with fake photos, there were girls from the US, most were for about 300 USD, some more. I saw a nice petite Chinese girl, and a pro from Florida. The hotels rooms were the smallest I've ever been in, about 100 sq ft. The best deals are in Thailand.

DRmjm
07-08-17, 11:31
I met one 19 year old she wanted $200 but she was so shy, it was painful, then she went MIA. I met another 28 year she was 20 lbs heavier than her photos. Then there was the 45 year old that wanted 500, I declined! LOL! I think we all can nail a 45 year old for free! It is called sugar baby after all! I met one nice girl, we hooked up a few times before I wanted to try something different.

Most girls are flakes, many just want a free dinner so always meet for coffee, if you're going to meet first.

A lot of these girls seem to think that men (perhaps some will) will give them exorbitant monthly allowances for nothing more than mentioning and networking.

I've had limited success with the app. Best ones are the girls just looks for extra cash to pay for school. I will only pay to play, no reoccurring allowance. I will only pay when we meet. Just be able to carry a conversation and the rest takes care of itself. Be nice, give compliments, don't scare them with creepy talk, in fact, don't even bring up sex when texting. It's already implied, just have a conversation. That seems to work best.



Have met with 8 SA sugar babes in the past year or so. Once each. Average "allowance" 300 to 500. Maybe 5 of the ladies have weighed about 20 pounds more than their pics. Bummer for me as I am just not attracted to larger women. Just the way I am wired. I am older and not able to be in public with "other" women so I am not a prime Daddy. The process does take extra time which is ok with me--I like the hunt. Mostly I have met with women under 25, though I like the 25-35 age group. They tend to want more bucks. Have not found a SB yet who has the refined sensual skills of the some of our MTs. There are a couple SB I could share if you are looking for an attractive and willing young one. I would like to find a perfect 8-8-8. Slim, uninhibited, stripper type who does not smoke. Asians are my preference (Koreans taste the best. . SA has more Haole chicks than other ethnic varieties. I have run into flakes and a few pros (Leah and Jenna Dean currently have profiles). And some very nice women. And some who HIGHLY value their worth. !

Hinode
07-08-17, 21:43
Nawww, some of you here are my idols! Braddahs SF, Kapalua, Raiden, Reds, and Hinode, I can just imagine what kinds trim they can get your hands on. Sorry if I missed anyone, old age does that BS to you..IMHO Braddahs JR, Kap, RN1, M9, Raiden, too many more (and I forget too LOL) paved the way for me to make this hobby not only safe, but enjoyable as well. I get 3 MILF 40's + on the side, Makana9 is the real hero, for bang YOUNG hotties due to his looks / job / travel. I only wish I could nail that kine! There is one 29 year old that keeps flirting with me, but she only contacts me when she needing attention and her bf flakes out on her. If I ever bang her, ill be sure to let the boys here know. Just keep throwing that smooth Aloha.

Member #5810
07-09-17, 01:18
First off props to braddah Makana and braddah Raiden for putting in work! Like Raiden says, Makana9 is my hero too. He can get action wherever he goes! So anyhow Makanas a good role model and we goin try our best for keep up! And SA. Ya it works. I spent years hunting on Skout and kik and tinder and got so many god damn trannys and cross dressers. Trying to dodge those is a pain. So #1 benefit of SA is that on my 3 month paid membership there were no trans on there that I saw. So thank goodness that real kittys for play with! #2 benefit is because SA is a paid site hopefully no more family or as many co workers on there for fun. Because I had a few close calls with family friends on skout and tinder so I cancelled my accounts. So on SA in three months I had lots of hits, about a dozen 2nd dates, and the five that I'd been banging I repeated with. Most were ok but could tell they were there to get the arrangement. Most was asking 2 x AMP rate. That didn't make sense to me becase still had to buy dinner or drinks at first. But for action they wanted big greenbacks. Might as well go AMP. LOL. But there are three that are solid. Sorry, can't really drop names because of the work we SA mongers got to put in to get them to be down. One is tall skinny filipina, here for college, just left for summer break back home. She cruises at the same places in the mainland where my homies cruise too but different generation, she half my age. About. LOL. We get along good, so we just cruise sometimes, hook up once a week, but we are in the same industry, so we talk about her future plans (I joke with her that she going be my sugar mama after!) thanks to my AMP training I taught her to really enjoy sex and to talk to me about what she likes best. Made me feel good when she said that her college athlete ex boyfriend was shetty in bed LOL. Best thing is that its turned into a real fwb. I'll get her nice things once in a while but it's all good. It doesn't feel like a transaction or like its expected. The other crazy haole girl from SA is here because it's paradise she said, I think she from kansas or kentucky. And its hard to get by here with just her regular waikiki tourist job. That one calls when she needs money I think LOL. And that one is good for maybe once a month, same rate as AMP, but the feeling isn't 100%. Reliable tho, but not as hot as the first one. The 3rd one is a little older and enjoys her sex so much that I can look past her age and body type, she is just a free spirit. That one AMP rates too. So I got what I got on SA while having a live-in SO. Just good planning. I try go to the girls place to cruise. But for all you guys with your own bachelor pad I really recommend SA. Its the best thing since bachelor pad and match dot com over ten years ago. Back then, was easy just buy them dinner and bring them back to the pad. Either some lovey action so theres another date, or its a good bye slam and pau, cya! LOL. Braddah Raiden, make sure that SA girls are on the pill or some kine BC, going BB is cool and all but if you have a SO then you don't want any surprise nine months later. One of them said she wasnt on any BC. And that if she get hapai then she going to keep'm. She got cut from my list! Have fun bros and play smart play safe.Thanks for the info and advice e bruddah Yummy! Yeah, I no like one baby! I liked SA but take up too much time. I did really like the opportunity to meet other ethnicity girls. Actually I tried to meet only non Korean girls. AMP's are main Korean so on SA I met Caucasian and others for different change of pace. Haole girls get the best body. Can't beat a 20 something haole girl. Wowwwww. I'm back to AMP's which is great but I do miss SA. If I had more time I'd still be on. I do meet one girl once a month but that's it. And she's a secret lover for me. Thanks all my bruddahs for sharing and the advice.

Makana9
07-11-17, 23:40
Thanks for the info and advice e bruddah Yummy! Yeah, I no like one baby! I liked SA but take up too much time. I did really like the opportunity to meet other ethnicity girls. Actually, I tried to meet only non-Korean girls. AMP's are main Korean so on SA I met Caucasian and others for a different change of pace. Haole girls get the best body. Can't beat a 20 something haole girl. Wowwwww. I'm back to AMP's which is great but I do miss SA. If I had more time I'd still be on. I do meet one girl once a month but that's it. And she's a secret lover for me. Thanks to all my bruddahs for sharing and the advice.For your guys' thoughts!! BUT, took years of screwing up, mistake after mistake, hit jackpot then lose money. I think we all or most of us go through it, learn and try try again. That is in my nature NO give up!! No fear, why I also got burned a few times, but when hit jackpot, "OH the GLORY!" Like some of your hear, try um all, AFF, Match, EHarmony (Yupss, I one nerd that way), Skout, pof, kik, snaps, tinder, etc. , etc. AFF for a bit was pretty good, truthfully I hooked up with more couples (before they use the "Cuckold" phase) some tourist looking for his girl get nailed by one local until they get frkn jealous and go bonkers, hated that!! Even had the husband come after me when the wife when on her own when the husband was golfing with buddies, and she gets hers without him. Guess was against their rules. SA was cool as Yumms and Raiden mentioned, can but got to be patient. I was kind of getting tired of the AMP and MT of CC BS, and most of the oldies but goodies were gonnasz. The crazy thing is SA was that replacement, but I guessing for now. Until she gets pissed off because because (young immature bs) and not get her way, or usually I get bored. HOW? Can you say I say that? Well, after some traveling for work and with our Athletics playing on the mainland, was time to get home and eat local local, can only handle the food up there so long. Wanted something nice, but was late so went to Annas in PRidge. Was crowded this late evening, but whatevas. Then I hear this HI, where have you been so long? I looked up and was someone I hooked up with by accident (CL post she answered, a few yrs. Ago). Yups, never thought she would be here working still. Caught up some, ordered, and always liked their pot roast with eggs. She was busy, so smiled and said Thanks and nice seeing you again. Went to Starbucks for relax, and lo and behold she shows up for her latte, and told the crew (they know me bc I go there a lot) I will put it on my app acct, but throw away the tag. Thank yous, and she sat to catch up after these years. We talked until they were closing, we both said that it was nice to catch up again, hug turned into a deep sigh hug. She said, "She misses what we had. " I sighed, told her we can catch up another time when she free. Yea, texted back and forth throughout the night. Who was she? We both was seeing each other when we both had a SO, but both relationship sucked. So side action stuff. SA, might go on hold for some. I appreciate all of you guys, yea still great to hear what you guys are doing. I going stay on the sidelines, cause in a chillaxing mood I guess. Well, we never know on my mood. Be safe out there gang.

Member #5810
07-12-17, 02:25
For your guys' thoughts!! BUT, took years of screwing up, mistake after mistake, hit jackpot then lose money. I think we all or most of us go through it, learn and try try again. That is in my nature NO give up!! No fear, why I also got burned a few times, but when hit jackpot, "OH the GLORY!" Like some of your hear, try um all, AFF, Match, EHarmony (Yupss, I one nerd that way), Skout, pof, kik, snaps, tinder, etc. , etc. AFF for a bit was pretty good, truthfully I hooked up with more couples (before they use the "Cuckold" phase) some tourist looking for his girl get nailed by one local until they get frkn jealous and go bonkers, hated that!! Even had the husband come after me when the wife when on her own when the husband was golfing with buddies, and she gets hers without him. Guess was against their rules. SA was cool as Yumms and Raiden mentioned, can but got to be patient. I was kind of getting tired of the AMP and MT of CC BS, and most of the oldies but goodies were gonnasz. The crazy thing is SA was that replacement, but I guessing for now. Until she gets pissed off because because (young immature bs) and not get her way, or usually I get bored. HOW? Can you say I say that? Well, after some traveling for work and with our Athletics playing on the mainland, was time to get home and eat local local, can only handle the food up there so long. Wanted something nice, but was late so went to Annas in PRidge. Was crowded this late evening, but whatevas. Then I hear this HI, where have you been so long? I looked up and was someone I hooked up with by accident (CL post she answered, a few yrs. Ago). Yups, never thought she would be here working still. Caught up some, ordered, and always liked their pot roast with eggs. She was busy, so smiled and said Thanks and nice seeing you again. Went to Starbucks for relax, and lo and behold she shows up for her latte, and told the crew (they know me bc I go there a lot) I will put it on my app acct, but throw away the tag. Thank yous, and she sat to catch up after these years. We talked until they were closing, we both said that it was nice to catch up again, hug turned into a deep sigh hug. She said, "She misses what we had. " I sighed, told her we can catch up another time when she free. Yea, texted back and forth throughout the night. Who was she? We both was seeing each other when we both had a SO, but both relationship sucked. So side action stuff. SA, might go on hold for some. I appreciate all of you guys, yea still great to hear what you guys are doing. I going stay on the sidelines, cause in a chillaxing mood I guess. Well, we never know on my mood. Be safe out there gang.Enjoy your hiatus bruddah Makana! You are the Jedi! Sounds like you have a great thing going. Wish you the best!

SugaFoot
07-12-17, 23:11
I'm chatting with an escort who is masquerading as a sugar baby. Her user name is rebeccaa23. We chatted a bit them moved to text where the escort side came right out. She said she wanted a "donation" up from and that she does not kiss and everything has to be "covered" at all times. I politely declined and told her I'm not in the market for an escort. She replied that she's not an escort and was looking to make extra money while visiting. I didn't bother asking what she expected for "donations".

DRmjm
07-12-17, 23:37
That's the thing that always mad me laugh about SA. The woman are all soliciting sex for money, yet, all will claim they are not escorts, just poor college girls trying to earn extra cash for books. LOL!

I'll never understand it, all this "sugar" thing is doing is adding complications to what was once a simple thing. Well, ok, I understand it, the chicks want to think of themselves as better than hookers and the guys want to think of themselves as better than johns.

If they won't fuck you unless you're paying them they are hookers and you are a john. There's nothing wrong with that, I fucking love hookers and have no shame in being a john, but give it a name.

A2


I'm chatting with an escort who is masquerading as a sugar baby. Her user name is rebeccaa23. We chatted a bit them moved to text where the escort side came right out. She said she wanted a "donation" up from and that she does not kiss and everything has to be "covered" at all times. I politely declined and told her I'm not in the market for an escort. She replied that she's not an escort and was looking to make extra money while visiting. I didn't bother asking what she expected for "donations".

Member #5810
07-13-17, 00:19
I'm chatting with an escort who is masquerading as a sugar baby. Her user name is rebeccaa23. We chatted a bit them moved to text where the escort side came right out. She said she wanted a "donation" up from and that she does not kiss and everything has to be "covered" at all times. I politely declined and told her I'm not in the market for an escort. She replied that she's not an escort and was looking to make extra money while visiting. I didn't bother asking what she expected for "donations".I met a lot of girls on SA who offered escort non sexual services! They wanted 100 hr to accompany me. Some 200 or 300! Admittedly they were super hot but not my thing. Not to stereotype so don't rant on me but these types of girls were exclusively Caucasian. Just saying.

SugaFoot
07-13-17, 23:52
That's the thing that always mad me laugh about SA. The woman are all soliciting sex for money, yet, all will claim they are not escorts, just poor college girls trying to earn extra cash for books. LOL!

I'll never understand it, all this "sugar" thing is doing is adding complications to what was once a simple thing. Well, ok, I understand it, the chicks want to think of themselves as better than hookers and the guys want to think of themselves as better than johns.

If they won't fuck you unless you're paying them they are hookers and you are a john. There's nothing wrong with that, I fucking love hookers and have no shame in being a john, but give it a name.

A2I'm a proud John Trick and any other name they throw at me.

SugaFoot
07-13-17, 23:55
I met a lot of girls on SA who offered escort non sexual services! They wanted 100 hr to accompany me. Some 200 or 300! Admittedly they were super hot but not my thing. Not to stereotype so don't rant on me but these types of girls were exclusively Caucasian. Just saying.I meet a lot who want to be treated as something other than a escort or hooker and that's fine. The escort lingo mad me laugh though and I posted her info (with her permission) here for those who don't mind non GFE and those who love white girls. She's pretty hot IMO.

WesleyPipes773
07-19-17, 21:38
Anyone know how often they have special promotions for membership? Been debating whether I should spend the money on membership. Keep reading the awesome stories on here so it's been tempting.

DRmjm
07-20-17, 00:58
As far as specials, I don't know, but, I did one week and got a ton of numbers. Once you make contact and get the number you no longer need SA. There are not that many active in Honolulu so it won't take long to figure out who's active, who's a princess, who's a fake, who's a flake and who's the real deal. Within a week you should have a few candidates lined up and ready to go.


Anyone know how often they have special promotions for membership? Been debating whether I should spend the money on membership. Keep reading the awesome stories on here so it's been tempting.

SugaFoot
07-21-17, 17:08
Anyone know how often they have special promotions for membership? Been debating whether I should spend the money on membership. Keep reading the awesome stories on here so it's been tempting.The special is only like $20 off. The week deal is OK but these girls are often distracted so the one you're really into might not get back to within the week.

BotoMoco
07-21-17, 21:51
I haven't been on in awhile and searched again. Lots of hotties and lots of flakes too. Damn a maui chick wanted 1500 WTF. I don't think any pussy is worth 1500 for one pop.

SugaFoot
07-21-17, 21:58
I haven't been on in awhile and searched again. Lots of hotties and lots of flakes too. Damn a maui chick wanted 1500 WTF. I don't think any pussy is worth 1500 for one pop.I'm seeing odd behavior also. Flaky girls wanting to get a picture and number then go silent or a ring of friends contacting you all at once. Be careful who you share info with.

BotoMoco
07-22-17, 02:46
I'm seeing odd behavior also. Flaky girls wanting to get a picture and number then go silent or a ring of friends contacting you all at once. Be careful who you share info with.Yeah I know what's up with that. They ask for your number and then nothing. WTF. I signed up for instacheckmate and check their numbers and couple of um were guy numbers so like you said be careful because that hot chick in the pic might be some ass wipe trying to scam something.

Shoots Brah
07-22-17, 21:41
Yeah I know what's up with that. They ask for your number and then nothing. WTF. I signed up for instacheckmate and check their numbers and couple of um were guy numbers so like you said be careful because that hot chick in the pic might be some ass wipe trying to scam something.Or the phone contract could be under their boyfriend, pimp, husbands name. I get a lot of calls that shows up as the guys name but it's usually the lady on the other end.

Then again, with all that cat fishing going around, you never know.

Shamester
07-30-17, 18:45
Totally agree with you on all counts. SA is I think more for a mature thinker. You have to be kind of smart player or at least hold a conversation. These girls are not your typical MP girls. Who are a dime a dozen. Anybody with 200 bucks can bang a hot provider and you don't even have to speak english or say a word. Its all about money at the MPs. Where in the world can someone off the street bang a hot chick so easily. SA is a different ball game I think. I am very happy where I'm at and will never go back to an MP till this runs out. Its cost a little more but like I said. The hottie I'm seeing is not fucking 8 guys a day every single day. Think about it. All the you guys in love with your hot MP provider just think how many dicks are in her pussy and how many CIMs she goes through in a day. Don't get me wrong I was one of them banging away all those hotties and loving it but. This is the new game for me now and I'm loving it. Happy hunting. So the advise is you get what you pay for and work for what you want. No free rides in this game.Naive and wishful thinking. SA are camaflouged ******. Dummies like this are easily conned and manipulated.

Shamester
07-30-17, 18:59
Very good point and very true. Modestly speaking I'm closer to Harrison Ford and I put up several. Real. Pics. I haven't upgraded yet to Premium because don't want to waste it during the holidays when I'm with family, but I've been on 2 weeks and been "favorited" by 10 hot girls 23 to 37.12 not so hot girls 24 to 44. Got 7 girls. Sent messages but can't view or reply. Till. I upgrade. Been viewed 54 times by members all. Over, even international. So I think it works. Haven't hooked up yet because need to upgrade but hoping I really. Get. A. winner. Just IMHO it's still a dating site and looks etc. Play a big part when they are viewing your profile. So, it is very YMMV.Narcissistic and braggadocio behaviors. This idiot will be taken advantage of.

Meet up with the chica and negotiate to pay groceries and other incidentals. Morons are being manipulated by young prostitutes.

Member #5810
07-30-17, 22:24
Anyone can help me out? I need some suggestions on any places that I can rent a room. For short time hook ups. Like and hour or 2. I met some hotties but they can't host and neither can I. And I don't really. Want to pay a whole night for just a couple of hours. Please PM me if you can help with some ideas or places.

Jnglepen
07-30-17, 23:43
Anyone can help me out? I need some suggestions on any places that I can rent a room. For short time hook ups. Like and hour or 2. I met some hotties but they can't host and neither can I. And I don't really. Want to pay a whole night for just a couple of hours. Please PM me if you can help with some ideas or places.It's funny you mentioned this; I met a swinger couple last night that is totally dtf. Problem is. I can't host and neither can they. I'm currently brainstorming some options right now; looking for a cheap solution! If I come up with some stuff I'll send it your way brotha!

Hard808
07-31-17, 03:50
Anyplace still got karaoke rooms? Korean place pucks alley get. Pay for the hour couple beers and pick the first 20 songs in the book. Haha.


It's funny you mentioned this; I met a swinger couple last night that is totally dtf. Problem is. I can't host and neither can they. I'm currently brainstorming some options right now; looking for a cheap solution! If I come up with some stuff I'll send it your way brotha!

Member #5810
07-31-17, 04:01
It's funny you mentioned this; I met a swinger couple last night that is totally dtf. Problem is. I can't host and neither can they. I'm currently brainstorming some options right now; looking for a cheap solution! If I come up with some stuff I'll send it your way brotha!Much thanks. Fucking dilemma! I got 2 hot chicks at AMP rates but no place to go! Arrrggggh.