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Heh, I figure we got a KB tactics and discussions thread. Why not have a discussion thread on AMPs so, it doesn't clutter the MP Thread? Leave the MP Thread to reports as much as possible. I'm sure there's probably alot of miscellaneous things you got to say in regards to these AMP places and AMP girls. There's a ton of subjects I can think of. Examples: Spinner Type girls, Hottest Bodies, Prettiest Faces, Attitude / Rules type girls, Impatient Providers, Mechanical / Dead fish providers, Big bootie providers, Big boob providers, etc, etc, etc.
Splooge going write so much, he'll hit 1000 posts before he becomes Senior Member. LOL.
Heh, I figure we got a KB tactics and discussions thread. Why not have a discussion thread on AMPs so, it doesn't clutter the MP Thread? Leave the MP Thread to reports as much as possible. I'm sure there's probably alot of miscellaneous things you got to say in regards to these AMP places and AMP girls. There's a ton of subjects I can think of. Examples: Spinner Type girls, Hottest Bodies, Prettiest Faces, Attitude / Rules type girls, Impatient Providers, Mechanical / Dead fish providers, Big bootie providers, Big boob providers, etc, etc, etc.
Splooge going write so much, he'll hit 1000 posts before he becomes Senior Member. LOL.Great idea Uki. And another thing us can I have a list of all the AMPs avaliable here in honolulu. Would love to hit up all these place before the year end.
Thanks
(1) We have Brothels, not AMPs, in Honolulu. Full blown brothels. AMPs is a deliberate misnomer.
(2) Lessons learned from the girls and mongering: (a) you must do anything, anything, no matter how degrading by any moral standard, in order to survive and be rich. (2) you are nothing but the size of your wallet (or purse if you are a provider). This is a cold world where any divine spark is missing, and woe to the stupid and romantic fool who buys into any of the lies, make belief, smoke and mirrors, pretension that are central core of this world.
(3) Lessons that should have been known before mongering: If you cannot monger on a viable budget, you are setting yourself up for a world of hurt. And when money runs out, you cannot even say that is when you know who your real friends are. Cause real friendship is alien to this world that is the nexus of lust and commerce.
I think AMPs are great! I just don't want to add AMPaholic to me being already KBholic, hehe. Actually I'm scared of being seen and LE raid stuff. I also think it can get quite expensive if say you go 2 or 3 times a week or more, right? . Some of you that post alot of reports must spend some good amount of kala per month ah? How much?
(1) We have Brothels, not AMPs, in Honolulu. Full blown brothels. AMPs is a deliberate misnomer.AMP sounds more fun hehe.
Alright, I'm sure everyone has their own turnoffs. But, which one would really stand out the most to you? Which one you'd omit and deal with the other 4?
1. No personality / bitchy attitude.
2. Dead fish / Lazy.
3. Too many rules. No DFK / DATY.
4. Smelly breath / nani.
5. Rush service / ask tip upfront.
Damn, I really don't know. LOL. That's a tough one. I guess number 1 would be the worst. The bitchy attitude. But damn, real smelly breath / nani? Hard to get turned on. I guess I'll just have to wear a respirator mask. LOL. I think we're fucked no matter which one is ommited. Hehe. Geez, I've experienced all of the 5 over the years.
Alright, I'm sure everyone has their own turnoffs. But, which one would really stand out the most to you? Which one you'd omit and deal with the other 4?
1. No personality / bitchy attitude.
2. Dead fish / Lazy.
3. Too many rules. No DFK / DATY.
4. Smelly breath / nani.
5. Rush service / ask tip upfront.
Damn, I really don't know. LOL. That's a tough one. I guess number 1 would be the worst. The bitchy attitude. But damn, real smelly breath / nani? Hard to get turned on. I guess I'll just have to wear a respirator mask. LOL. I think we're fucked no matter which one is ommited. Hehe. Geez, I've experienced all of the 5 over the years.My biggest turn off is when they ask for the tip upfront. I can get around most of the other four items you mentioned as the session goes along. But asking for the tip upfront automatically breaks the provider / customer trust agreement with me. Just the fact that they ask upfront kills it for me. Like I mentioned before in an earlier post. I had a situation once where I went to Nirvana back when Joy of Pink was working there. Joy came into the room and I was stunned by her beauty. But instantly she demanded I pay her upfront and kept holding her hand out for the money. I kindly negotiated with her for almost ten minutes telling her why I do not pay upfront but she kept insisting and insisting. I stuck to my rule and walked out of Nirvana totally depressed. I really really wanted to bang her. It is the only time in my whole many years of AMP experiences where I was totally distraught about not being able to see a pretty AMP girl. Well interestingly enough a year or so later I walked into Pink and guess who was there? Yep the gorgeous Joy. I chose her from the lineup and she walked into the room with me at Pink and never once mentioned payment upfront. WTF? I was taken aback. We went on to have a very romantic session and when I went to pay her after I kindly mentioned the fact of what she did to me at Nirvana. She kindly apologized and said I should have tried her anyway. But I told her I had my rules and never broke them no matter how pretty the girl. She respected that. In fact she offered to let me pay her only $100 if I wanted as a consolation but I gave her the standard amount anyway. Pretty cool yea? I went on to see Joy many times after that and each time just got better and better. She even did some BBBJ with me and rimming on one occasion. I kid you not. She never did tell me why she was so persistent that time at Nirvana. Maybe she was having a bad day. Or maybe she got ripped by some other monger who did not pay or something. Who knows? But even then I felt it was one of those things that really "broke the camels back for me"
My point after all the rambling above is that I feel that the lack of trust implied when they ask upfront is the ultimate killer for me. In my opinion they are in a service related business just like restaurants etc. They provide a service that I need. So they should learn to treat their customers with respect and ask for the tip later after the service is provided. A cost of doing business in a restaurant is scrap food. Every day the owners throw away that food and money is lost. The same goes with AMPs. The cost of doing business for an AMP includes the fact that occasional customers will not pay. That is the way it is. They should realize that. But for myself I don't feel that I should be required to pay upfront in a service related business because there are other assholes that don't pay. That would be the equivalent of the owner of the restaurant saying to me as I walked in: "Hey you customer you must pay for the meal first because someone's credit card last night did not charge correctly". Why should I be inconvenienced because of a previous customer? Why should I pay before the service is provided? Do you pay for the meal first before you eat it at a restaurant? No. Do you tip a waiter first or after? After. When you get a haircut do you pay first and then get the haircut? Hell no! In any service related business transaction the customer usually the majority of the time pays after the service is provided. It is as simple as that. It is just logic.
But once again just my opinion based upon many awesome years of mongering. Agree or disagree.
My biggest turn off is when they ask for the tip upfront. I can get around most of the other four items you mentioned as the session goes along. But asking for the tip upfront automatically breaks the provider / customer trust agreement with me. Just the fact that they ask upfront kills it for me. Like I mentioned before in an earlier post. I had a situation once where I went to Nirvana back when Joy of Pink was working there. Joy came into the room and I was stunned by her beauty. But instantly she demanded I pay her upfront and kept holding her hand out for the money. I kindly negotiated with her for almost ten minutes telling her why I do not pay upfront but she kept insisting and insisting. I stuck to my rule and walked out of Nirvana totally depressed. I really really wanted to bang her. It is the only time in my whole many years of AMP experiences where I was totally distraught about not being able to see a pretty AMP girl. Well interestingly enough a year or so later I walked into Pink and guess who was there? Yep the gorgeous Joy. I chose her from the lineup and she walked into the room with me at Pink and never once mentioned payment upfront. WTF? I was taken aback. We went on to have a very romantic session and when I went to pay her after I kindly mentioned the fact of what she did to me at Nirvana. She kindly apologized and said I should have tried her anyway. But I told her I had my rules and never broke them no matter how pretty the girl. She respected that. In fact she offered to let me pay her only $100 if I wanted as a consolation but I gave her the standard amount anyway. Pretty cool yea? I went on to see Joy many times after that and each time just got better and better. She even did some BBBJ with me and rimming on one occasion. I kid you not. She never did tell me why she was so persistent that time at Nirvana. Maybe she was having a bad day. Or maybe she got ripped by some other monger who did not pay or something. Who knows? But even then I felt it was one of those things that really "broke the camels back for me"
My point after all the rambling above is that I feel that the lack of trust implied when they ask upfront is the ultimate killer for me. In my opinion they are in a service related business just like restaurants etc. They provide a service that I need. So they should learn to treat their customers with respect and ask for the tip later after the service is provided. A cost of doing business in a restaurant is scrap food. Every day the owners throw away that food and money is lost. The same goes with AMPs. The cost of doing business for an AMP includes the fact that occasional customers will not pay. That is the way it is. They should realize that. But for myself I don't feel that I should be required to pay upfront in a service related business because there are other assholes that don't pay. That would be the equivalent of the owner of the restaurant saying to me as I walked in: "Hey you customer you must pay for the meal first because someone's credit card last night did not charge correctly". Why should I be inconvenienced because of a previous customer? Why should I pay before the service is provided? Do you pay for the meal first before you eat it at a restaurant? No. Do you tip a waiter first or after? After. When you get a haircut do you pay first and then get the haircut? Hell no! In any service related business transaction the customer usually the majority of the time pays after the service is provided. It is as simple as that. It is just logic.
But once again just my opinion based upon many awesome years of mongering. Agree or disagree.Howzit going Mipene77? I enjoyed your posting and experience. My experience on tipping happened only one time in all those years I've been going. It happened at Pine Tree with Gina. Tanned Korean like Sindi. What surprised me is she asked me: "Baby, can you take care of me first, then I'll take care of you. You take care me, I take care of you" I did not understand what she meant by that. When she later explained, I did hesitate a bit and thought about it but, the way she sounded, I felt she wasn't going to rip me. So, I had no problem handing it first. After the deed, I really enjoyed my experience with her that I wanted to repeat. Unfortunately she's gone and couldn't repeat when I went to Pine Tree again.
In your experience with Joy, I'm not surprised that she may have had a previous customer who had short tipped her. At that time and moment, she may have just had a bad experience before seeing you. She probably assumed that you were going to be another type that would do the same thing. It's pretty obvious why providers are firm on the tip these days because there are those other dudes who would short tip. In time, the AMPs feel tainted by it. I don't even feel upset if they do count it hehe. I'm just smiling and giggling when they do count it. The providers do come out and say why they count it and even why they ask for it up front.
RadioHazard
01-26-12, 19:01
I totally agree here. I think this is generally not a problem for me and many of the frequent mongers as usually the mama will indicate this is a regular. I think the last time a girl asked for the money up front was at the old PT downstairs like 4 years ago. I sad no and was going to walk. Than mama sent Mimi who I already new.
I guess I am lucky it does not happen to me. If it did it would be odd.
My biggest turn off is when they ask for the tip upfront. I can get around most of the other four items you mentioned as the session goes along. But asking for the tip upfront automatically breaks the provider / customer trust agreement with me. Just the fact that they ask upfront kills it for me. Like I mentioned before in an earlier post. I had a situation once where I went to Nirvana back when Joy of Pink was working there. Joy came into the room and I was stunned by her beauty. But instantly she demanded I pay her upfront and kept holding her hand out for the money. I kindly negotiated with her for almost ten minutes telling her why I do not pay upfront but she kept insisting and insisting. I stuck to my rule and walked out of Nirvana totally depressed. I really really wanted to bang her. It is the only time in my whole many years of AMP experiences where I was totally distraught about not being able to see a pretty AMP girl. Well interestingly enough a year or so later I walked into Pink and guess who was there? Yep the gorgeous Joy. I chose her from the lineup and she walked into the room with me at Pink and never once mentioned payment upfront. WTF? I was taken aback. We went on to have a very romantic session and when I went to pay her after I kindly mentioned the fact of what she did to me at Nirvana. She kindly apologized and said I should have tried her anyway. But I told her I had my rules and never broke them no matter how pretty the girl. She respected that. In fact she offered to let me pay her only $100 if I wanted as a consolation but I gave her the standard amount anyway. Pretty cool yea? I went on to see Joy many times after that and each time just got better and better. She even did some BBBJ with me and rimming on one occasion. I kid you not. She never did tell me why she was so persistent that time at Nirvana. Maybe she was having a bad day. Or maybe she got ripped by some other monger who did not pay or something. Who knows? But even then I felt it was one of those things that really "broke the camels back for me"
My point after all the rambling above is that I feel that the lack of trust implied when they ask upfront is the ultimate killer for me. In my opinion they are in a service related business just like restaurants etc. They provide a service that I need. So they should learn to treat their customers with respect and ask for the tip later after the service is provided. A cost of doing business in a restaurant is scrap food. Every day the owners throw away that food and money is lost. The same goes with AMPs. The cost of doing business for an AMP includes the fact that occasional customers will not pay. That is the way it is. They should realize that. But for myself I don't feel that I should be required to pay upfront in a service related business because there are other assholes that don't pay. That would be the equivalent of the owner of the restaurant saying to me as I walked in: "Hey you customer you must pay for the meal first because someone's credit card last night did not charge correctly". Why should I be inconvenienced because of a previous customer? Why should I pay before the service is provided? Do you pay for the meal first before you eat it at a restaurant? No. Do you tip a waiter first or after? After. When you get a haircut do you pay first and then get the haircut? Hell no! In any service related business transaction the customer usually the majority of the time pays after the service is provided. It is as simple as that. It is just logic.
But once again just my opinion based upon many awesome years of mongering. Agree or disagree.
My approach is pretty much the opposite, and in general, it has only backfired on me a couple of times, but not bad enough for me to stop my tendency to do so. When I am at a new place, where the MS doesn't know me, I usually leave the $.5 out in plain site for the provider to see so we get off on the right track and am not jaded by the provider which would mess up my mind set for the rest of the session even if she may be a great provider. Sometimes I get a kick out of some providers who are a bit embarassed when they see the tip out there and tell me to hide it, or put is away for later. I remember the first time that I had Jay at GQ, I put the $ right next to the KY and my watch, she came in, made small talk, looked around, saw the money and said,"Honey, don't leave this out here.". With Mona at Ginza, she came in, and treated me like a long time customer even though I had never seen her or been to Ginza before. At the end of the session, when she started to clean up the place, she looked at the $ and asked,"Honey, is all of this for me?" I told her yes and she smiled and gave me a big hug. As far as negative sessions, I remember going to CC#2404 and left the cash out to see. When Sara came in, she was nice, but I already knew that she and I didn't connect because she was too masculine and Americanized for me. She saw the $ and said,"Is this for me?" I said yes and then she serviced my, but one of the only times I couldn't get hard. If I had know in advance, I would have just gotten a massage, and maybe HJ. The most recent time occurred when I went to Asia Spa. Hoping to get a young Chinese girl, I left the cash out and waited in the room naked, suddenly, this old MILF Korean came in, to my shock, and said she would service me. When I asked about the Chinese girl, she said she went on vacation. I just got a massage, but she already saw the cash and I actually felt sorry for her as she was so old and try to do FS with me that I told her that I was too tired and too old, but she could keep the tip anyway. Since this whole hobby is a gamble anyway, I am just trying to stack the odds in my favor.
My approach is pretty much the opposite, and in general, it has only backfired on me a couple of times, but not bad enough for me to stop my tendency to do so. When I am at a new place, where the MS doesn't know me, I usually leave the $.5 out in plain site for the provider to see so we get off on the right track and am not jaded by the provider which would mess up my mind set for the rest of the session even if she may be a great provider. Sometimes I get a kick out of some providers who are a bit embarassed when they see the tip out there and tell me to hide it, or put is away for later. I remember the first time that I had Jay at GQ, I put the $ right next to the KY and my watch, she came in, made small talk, looked around, saw the money and said,"Honey, don't leave this out here.". With Mona at Ginza, she came in, and treated me like a long time customer even though I had never seen her or been to Ginza before. At the end of the session, when she started to clean up the place, she looked at the $ and asked,"Honey, is all of this for me?" I told her yes and she smiled and gave me a big hug. As far as negative sessions, I remember going to CC#2404 and left the cash out to see. When Sara came in, she was nice, but I already knew that she and I didn't connect because she was too masculine and Americanized for me. She saw the $ and said,"Is this for me?" I said yes and then she serviced my, but one of the only times I couldn't get hard. If I had know in advance, I would have just gotten a massage, and maybe HJ. The most recent time occurred when I went to Asia Spa. Hoping to get a young Chinese girl, I left the cash out and waited in the room naked, suddenly, this old MILF Korean came in, to my shock, and said she would service me. When I asked about the Chinese girl, she said she went on vacation. I just got a massage, but she already saw the cash and I actually felt sorry for her as she was so old and try to do FS with me that I told her that I was too tired and too old, but she could keep the tip anyway. Since this whole hobby is a gamble anyway, I am just trying to stack the odds in my favor.In my 16+ years of AMPing I have been asked to pay first a lot. And I mean a lot. I don't know, maybe it is the fact that I am not local but Spanish and I have that bodybuilder look or something. Hell maybe they think I am a tourist or something. I do not look local and am not Asian so that may be a reason. Just recently Sara at Roses asked me (for the third freaking time). She asked twice when she worked at GQ for the tip upfront. All three times I turned her down. I told her to send me Lily when she did that last time. I frankly told her if she did not want my money then fine I would give it to Lily. In fact I waited till I was out in the lobby and Sara was sitting down while Lily escorted me out. I took out Lily's tip and gave it to Lily so Sara could clearly see. So screw her and her attitude. I don't know you guys may like her but she never gave me a chance. Her loss.
I would also say that the very few times that I was stupid enough to pay upfront (when I was an amateur) many years ago the service has always sucked. Now they have the money and they don't care. If the service is bad the only recourse I have is to whine to Mama but I learned early that is not a good thing. The last thing you want to do is try to settle a logical argument with a Mamasan. That is almost the same as trying to reason logic with Obama. It just don't work.
All I can say is you guys that pay upfront actually make it worse on all of us. You give them the power and take the power away from us the customers. In any business the customer is always right. Just ask any successful business owner.
My approach is pretty much the opposite, and in general, it has only backfired on me a couple of times, but not bad enough for me to stop my tendency to do so. When I am at a new place, where the MS doesn't know me, I usually leave the $.5 out in plain site for the provider to see so we get off on the right track and am not jaded by the provider which would mess up my mind set for the rest of the session even if she may be a great provider. Sometimes I get a kick out of some providers who are a bit embarassed when they see the tip out there and tell me to hide it, or put is away for later. I remember the first time that I had Jay at GQ, I put the $ right next to the KY and my watch, she came in, made small talk, looked around, saw the money and said,"Honey, don't leave this out here.". With Mona at Ginza, she came in, and treated me like a long time customer even though I had never seen her or been to Ginza before. At the end of the session, when she started to clean up the place, she looked at the $ and asked,"Honey, is all of this for me?" I told her yes and she smiled and gave me a big hug. As far as negative sessions, I remember going to CC#2404 and left the cash out to see. When Sara came in, she was nice, but I already knew that she and I didn't connect because she was too masculine and Americanized for me. She saw the $ and said,"Is this for me?" I said yes and then she serviced my, but one of the only times I couldn't get hard. If I had know in advance, I would have just gotten a massage, and maybe HJ. The most recent time occurred when I went to Asia Spa. Hoping to get a young Chinese girl, I left the cash out and waited in the room naked, suddenly, this old MILF Korean came in, to my shock, and said she would service me. When I asked about the Chinese girl, she said she went on vacation. I just got a massage, but she already saw the cash and I actually felt sorry for her as she was so old and try to do FS with me that I told her that I was too tired and too old, but she could keep the tip anyway. Since this whole hobby is a gamble anyway, I am just trying to stack the odds in my favor.Interesting Kurocha. I can understand why you did what you did. The assumption that maybe the provider is going to think that you're someone that may short tip her. Also, by doing that, the service might be better because she knows upfront that you're not the type to short tip. It's cutting through all the short tip concern that a provider may have so there's no need to bother about her worrying and you wondering if she's worried about it. It's like an ice breaker for you doing it and seeing her expression when she sees it.
Personally, I wouldn't bother to do that. Leaving it out in the open like that can also worry a provider. I rather not leave it out and see what she does to please me. I'll use my other methods to ensure / reassure to her that I'm not the type that will short tip her and gain her trust. I feel you have the leverage / control by not leaving the tip. I think leaving a tip in the beginning is like indirectly saying to a provider:
"I'm not cheap ok? I won't short tip you. Look, you don't have to worry. I'm not like the others!"
If she assumes that you might short tip, erase her doubt and prove her wrong. You'll get use to it that you don't need to leave tip upfront anymore. In fact, with Monica for example, I may have left the tip for BBBJCIM. But, I was able to still get it even though I didn't have enough. I just openly / honestly said that I didn't have enough for BBBJCIM but, she let me slide anyway. This is one example of how not tipping upfront can work in your favor. I didn't do this intentionally as I wasn't expecting this to turn out the way it did as I was expecting only HJ from someone else. This has worked in my favor also in my early stages of Amping where I only cared for BJ, but got FS anyway. I said to the girl (s) : "Hey stop! I don't have enough for that" She says: "That's ok, I like you" Damn, I miss that!
The way I look at it, You're the king, have her serve you. Then, reward her later. I look at this the same way with BGs at hostess bars. Why buy LDs for a BG in the beginning to show you're not cheap but, she hasn't done jack for you yet?
(1) We have Brothels, not AMPs, in Honolulu. Full blown brothels. AMPs is a deliberate misnomer.It's a deliberate misnomer because nobody uses the term brothel in Hawaii except maybe LE, and maybe not even them. AMP is the accepted (and commonly used) terminology because everyone knows what they are. Hopefully none of the brothers on here go to a place described as an AMP hoping to get a legit massage. LOL.
My approach is pretty much the opposite, and in general, it has only backfired on me a couple of times, but not bad enough for me to stop my tendency to do so. When I am at a new place, where the MS doesn't know me, I usually leave the $.5 out in plain site for the provider to see so we get off on the right track and am not jaded by the provider which would mess up my mind set for the rest of the session even if she may be a great provider. Sometimes I get a kick out of some providers who are a bit embarassed when they see the tip out there and tell me to hide it, or put is away for later. I remember the first time that I had Jay at GQ, I put the $ right next to the KY and my watch, she came in, made small talk, looked around, saw the money and said,"Honey, don't leave this out here.". With Mona at Ginza, she came in, and treated me like a long time customer even though I had never seen her or been to Ginza before. At the end of the session, when she started to clean up the place, she looked at the $ and asked,"Honey, is all of this for me?" I told her yes and she smiled and gave me a big hug. As far as negative sessions, I remember going to CC#2404 and left the cash out to see. When Sara came in, she was nice, but I already knew that she and I didn't connect because she was too masculine and Americanized for me. She saw the $ and said,"Is this for me?" I said yes and then she serviced my, but one of the only times I couldn't get hard. If I had know in advance, I would have just gotten a massage, and maybe HJ. The most recent time occurred when I went to Asia Spa. Hoping to get a young Chinese girl, I left the cash out and waited in the room naked, suddenly, this old MILF Korean came in, to my shock, and said she would service me. When I asked about the Chinese girl, she said she went on vacation. I just got a massage, but she already saw the cash and I actually felt sorry for her as she was so old and try to do FS with me that I told her that I was too tired and too old, but she could keep the tip anyway. Since this whole hobby is a gamble anyway, I am just trying to stack the odds in my favor.Girls do not want you to put money on the table if they don't you. If you were LE and she took the the money off the table she will be arrested, its just like she is accepting money for service.
Happy Mongering
I was asked for the tip upfront only once. Declined and left for another AMP. In these financially difficult times for me, I am upfront after the flip and the "what you want?" I'm an old fart, so I go for the see-class milfs. IMHO, they don't merit full tip, so I always offer considerably less. I've gotten FS for $ on several occasions. Mipene I think it helps to be asian or local-looking.
Girls do not want you to put money on the table if they don't you. If you were LE and she took the the money off the table she will be arrested, its just like she is accepting money for service.
Happy MongeringYea, forgot about that. An AMP girl told me that once many years ago. And you just reminded me. Of course another reason to not pay upfront. God, I hate being right all the time.
I would also say that the very few times that I was stupid enough to pay upfront (when I was an amateur) many years ago the service has always sucked. Now they have the money and they don't care.Same here; the only (rare) exception is when the girl is genuinely ensuring that I in fact have the money she is expecting to receive, especially if she just got stiffed by the guy right before me.
Most times though, once the girl got the money it was 'no this and no that, what are you doing don't touch me we just met', yada-yada.
I do not tolerate a demand for money upfront, but if the girl asks nicely I might show her that I have it and if she is satisfied (rather than demand it on sight) I stay. I try my best to 'read' the girl but usually I do end up having to leave. Luckily I seldom see this problem.
Girls do not want you to put money on the table if they don't you. If you were LE and she took the the money off the table she will be arrested, its just like she is accepting money for service.
Happy MongeringYup. In fact, even after the deed, some providers wouldn't even take the tip. They said just place it on the table or on the bed. The providers need to be cautious and mongers need to be cautious to for their own safety as well. You never know what might happen.
This can apply to seeing MTs at CC and even mongering in other countries as well. I wouldn't leave the tip upfront as you never know, the girl (civilian, SW, gogo girl) may walk out of your room while you're taking a shower. Fortunately, it hasn't happened to me but, it has happened to others. You never know man. You never know.
My friend who does Backpage. He tried BP several times already as he wanted to try something different other than going AMPs. His excitement / anxiousness to try someone new on BP got the best of him that he assumed it's legit like the others he had on BP. He threw caution to the wind, handed the chick the $ Then, LE stepped in and he got busted.
Fucked up!
I don't think there's political correctness about tipping at an AMP. Unless you're a regular customer, they go by profiling. I don't remember a white provider who didn't ask for the tip first. Is it because of culture, having a pimp, or they tend to attract the customers who dine & dash because they don't stay at the place for long?
Darkman808
01-28-12, 06:00
Tipping up front, before the deed, not good. If a girl is a good provider and 'knows' you'll be happy with her service, she won't worry about getting tipped "after" the experience. A girl who has had customers that have shorted her on tips, is too stupid (or just has a shitty attitude) to understand or make the connection between getting shorted on tips and her crappy service. You will never change that kind of girl. White girls that work in AMPs are known (mostly but NOT all of them) to ask up front. When they do, I make every effort to politely say "no, I never pay before we get started" and leave it at that. If she insist, I again very politely tell her,"Look, I'm sorry, but this isn't going to work. I always pay after, always. So why don't we just forget about it and I'll see somebody else. Ok? We're cool and no hard feelings. I'm sorry." She usually shrugs her shoulders and leaves. Once in a great while, she'll say okay, and will go for it.
Don't mean to over generalize, but I think most mongers have had similar experiences.
Yup. In fact, even after the deed, some providers wouldn't even take the tip. They said just place it on the table or on the bed. The providers need to be cautious and mongers need to be cautious to for their own safety as well. You never know what might happen.
This can apply to seeing MTs at CC and even mongering in other countries as well. I wouldn't leave the tip upfront as you never know, the girl (civilian, SW, gogo girl) may walk out of your room while you're taking a shower. Fortunately, it hasn't happened to me but, it has happened to others. You never know man. You never know.
Fucked up!Yeah I would be more concerned if the girl claims she didn't get the tip and that it got stolen during the TS. Its a unlikely scenario but never can trust.
In my 16+ years of AMPing I have been asked to pay first a lot. And I mean a lot. I don't know, maybe it is the fact that I am not local but Spanish and I have that bodybuilder look or something. Hell maybe they think I am a tourist or something. I do not look local and am not Asian so that may be a reason. Just recently Sara at Roses asked me (for the third freaking time). She asked twice when she worked at GQ for the tip upfront. All three times I turned her down. I told her to send me Lily when she did that last time. I frankly told her if she did not want my money then fine I would give it to Lily. In fact I waited till I was out in the lobby and Sara was sitting down while Lily escorted me out. I took out Lily's tip and gave it to Lily so Sara could clearly see. So screw her and her attitude. I don't know you guys may like her but she never gave me a chance. Her loss.
I would also say that the very few times that I was stupid enough to pay upfront (when I was an amateur) many years ago the service has always sucked. Now they have the money and they don't care. If the service is bad the only recourse I have is to whine to Mama but I learned early that is not a good thing. The last thing you want to do is try to settle a logical argument with a Mamasan. That is almost the same as trying to reason logic with Obama. It just don't work.
All I can say is you guys that pay upfront actually make it worse on all of us. You give them the power and take the power away from us the customers. In any business the customer is always right. Just ask any successful business owner.Bro, sorry to hear about your third $ problem with Sera. I have no idea why she has insisted on getting money upfront from you. I hear the girls would routinely do that in the wee hours of the morning with drunk and new customers. But you seem to be a regular at these AMPs. I cannot see how your body builder or Spanish looks would affect anything. FYI, Sera can be an irritating ***** sometimes. She is really a very proud, arrogant woman, and can be very condescending sometimes. I have learned this about her over time and many sessions, which in hindsight I should have spent on seeing new providers. LOL. She has a lot more money now than she did when she first started in Honolulu in 2010, which makes her inflated head even more inflated. But she is working toward retirement and I would think she would welcome your business without the extra hassles. Lily, on the other hand, has great attitude. I have been with her twice and will see her again when she returns. I would not be surprised if there is an undercurrent of tension between the two women at Roses, the well established Lily with her famous service to regulars. I wonder if Lily was one of the reasons Sera has allowed for BBFS since she started at Roses.
It's a deliberate misnomer because nobody uses the term brothel in Hawaii except maybe LE, and maybe not even them. AMP is the accepted (and commonly used) terminology because everyone knows what they are. Hopefully none of the brothers on here go to a place described as an AMP hoping to get a legit massage. LOL.The thing is that while we have AMPs in Honolulu that fit the accepted and commonly used terminology prevalent on mainland cities, we also have full blown brothels that mainland cities do not have. That is the distinction I want to make. The places on Ward and Keeomoku do not have massage licenses and do not pretend to have massage licenses. They are not AMPs as commonly understood and accepted. These "relaxations" places are what they are, full blown brothels. And thank goodness they are allowed to operate.
The only person in the media I have heard have used the term "brothel" is that witch from PASS, Katherine Xian. She is out to "rescue" all the Korean girls from their fat bank accounts. LOL.
I'm sure we all had various experiences with that 1 provider that we've seen for the first time. It may turn out good for some while for others not so good. I'll go over why it may be good for some and why it won't be good for others.
When It Can Be Good.
1. She's rested and not in an emotionally bad mood.
2. MS puts in a good word to her that you're a good customer.
3. You make her feel comfortable that she lowers her guard down.
4. She hasn't been short tipped or had a bad experience with a previous customer before seeing you.
5. She feels comfortable right away based on her first initial impression of you.
6. Asian Guy? We can do this. It's likely he's not that big. Hehe.
When It Can Be Bad.
1. Provider just woke up from sleeping and is tired and moody.
2. She just had a bad experience before seeing you.
3. Her initial impression of you is not good. She's not attracted to you.
4. She's too cautious about being busted.
5. She really doesn't like what she's doing and it shows by her lack of enthusiasm / laziness.
6. Non Asian Guy? Shit, he might be too big for me!
7. She's just a bad provider. Period! LOL.
This isn't totally accurate where it will apply to everyones experiences. It's just what I think looking at a majority standpoint.
I'm sure a majority of us has done both. But, lets go over several reasons why one would repeat and why one wouldn't. I think some are pretty obvious as you see what I'm going to list.
To Repeat.
1. Looks. Pretty obvious already. She's hot! Damn, how can you not repeat with someone who looks sexy?
2. Service. You had a good time with her and feel you can't go wrong seeing her again.
3. Possible Discounts. Because she trusts you and you're a repeat that's giving her more business.
4. A challenge. You got through lowering her defenses and want to see what else can you get her to do on the next visit.
5. Not many options. You feel there's not many options out there but to repeat again.
To Not Repeat.
1. Shitty Service / Attitude. You tried her and now you know not to bother with a repeat.
2. Same Routine. You feel it will just be a similar experience as before. Boring.
3. Avoid Falling. You feel that if you repeat and repeat, your emotions kick in and you start to fall for her.
4. No Mystery. You already broken the ice already with the provider. You want to try someone new again.
5. Racking The Numbers. You want to try as much different providers and rack up your list first and experience them.
I'm sure a majority of us has done both. But, lets go over several reasons why one would repeat and why one wouldn't. I think some are pretty obvious as you see what I'm going to list.
To Repeat.
1. Looks. Pretty obvious already. She's hot! Damn, how can you not repeat with someone who looks sexy?
2. Service. You had a good time with her and feel you can't go wrong seeing her again.
3. Possible Discounts. Because she trusts you and you're a repeat that's giving her more business.
4. A challenge. You got through lowering her defenses and want to see what else can you get her to do on the next visit.
5. Not many options. You feel there's not many options out there but to repeat again.
To Not Repeat.
1. Shitty Service / Attitude. You tried her and now you know not to bother with a repeat.
2. Same Routine. You feel it will just be a similar experience as before. Boring.
3. Avoid Falling. You feel that if you repeat and repeat, your emotions kick in and you start to fall for her.
4. No Mystery. You already broken the ice already with the provider. You want to try someone new again.
5. Racking The Numbers. You want to try as much different providers and rack up your list first and experience them.I am going to add one under the repeat category that for me would be classified as "investment". I will repeat with a provider if we hit it off can develop a relationship where the sex is still great, but I can take her out periodically to grab a bite to eat, perhaps even a movie together, or whatever, outside of typical AMP activities. I am not talking about GFE necessarily, but more staying in touch and having "sexual encounter" on a regular basis even though she may have long retired from AMPing and has gone on to have a regular life outside of the AMPs. There are currently, three former providers that I see, who have left the AMP scene a couple of years ago that still enjoy the sex, but have either gotten married or have regular boyfriends, but miss certain aspects of their former lives. For me, it is important that they have a stable relationship with someone else as it keeps our relationship comfortable and non threatening towards the others. I still give them a tip for time spent, but it is more for my own peace of mind rather than being a requirement from them.
I am going to add one under the repeat category that for me would be classified as "investment". I will repeat with a provider if we hit it off can develop a relationship where the sex is still great, but I can take her out periodically to grab a bite to eat, perhaps even a movie together, or whatever, outside of typical AMP activities. I am not talking about GFE necessarily, but more staying in touch and having "sexual encounter" on a regular basis even though she may have long retired from AMPing and has gone on to have a regular life outside of the AMPs. There are currently, three former providers that I see, who have left the AMP scene a couple of years ago that still enjoy the sex, but have either gotten married or have regular boyfriends, but miss certain aspects of their former lives. For me, it is important that they have a stable relationship with someone else as it keeps our relationship comfortable and non threatening towards the others. I still give them a tip for time spent, but it is more for my own peace of mind rather than being a requirement from them.I am glad you chose the word "investment." Because an investment may pay off or it could become worthless. I made such an investment, contrary to advise and a better sense of judgment. I guess I did not have the whole scenario planned in my head as it has played out well for you, but I thought I had invested in a "relationship." The investment has blown up and it is totally worthless. It is worse than worthless because of the emotional turmoil it has caused. I curse the day I met that woman and fell for her charms.
That is almost the same as trying to reason logic with Obama. It just don't work.Mipene, please refrain from political posts! You have the right to express your opinion, but this is a monger site. Some of us may feel differently and the last thing this forum needs to do is turn into a political forum, because I won't sit and let comments like that go by when the Republican party is just as fucked up as anybody.
How much tax did Romney pay last year? Why is my tax percentage higher than his? Why does he hide money is Swiss Bank accounts?
These are the kind of things comments like this can lead to.
Let's put a cap on it before it spirals out of control.
Peace!
Mipene, please refrain from political posts! You have the right to express your opinion, but this is a monger site. Some of us may feel differently and the last thing this forum needs to do is turn into a political forum, because I won't sit and let comments like that go by when the Republican party is just as fucked up as anybody.
How much tax did Romney pay last year? Why is my tax percentage higher than his? Why does he hide money is Swiss Bank accounts?
These are the kind of things comments like this can lead to.
Let's put a cap on it before it spirals out of control.
Peace!Its cool dude, will try to keep a cap on it. Don't want to piss you off, we go back a long ways. All the way to the meetingplace. Remember those days?
Bro, sorry to hear about your third $ problem with Sera. I have no idea why she has insisted on getting money upfront from you. I hear the girls would routinely do that in the wee hours of the morning with drunk and new customers. But you seem to be a regular at these AMPs. I cannot see how your body builder or Spanish looks would affect anything. FYI, Sera can be an irritating ***** sometimes. She is really a very proud, arrogant woman, and can be very condescending sometimes. I have learned this about her over time and many sessions, which in hindsight I should have spent on seeing new providers. LOL. She has a lot more money now than she did when she first started in Honolulu in 2010, which makes her inflated head even more inflated. But she is working toward retirement and I would think she would welcome your business without the extra hassles. Lily, on the other hand, has great attitude. I have been with her twice and will see her again when she returns. I would not be surprised if there is an undercurrent of tension between the two women at Roses, the well established Lily with her famous service to regulars. I wonder if Lily was one of the reasons Sera has allowed for BBFS since she started at Roses.I think when Lily shows up to a place she kind of takes over. Since she allows almost anything in the book other girls there have to "up the ante" to get some of the money. I am almost sure that is why Sara started doing BBFS with some customers. When Sara approached me at GQ she seemed to have a "I don't care attitude" with me when I refused to pay her upfront. It was strange because most girls that I turn down for payment upfront try to negotiate and I eventually win them over. But Sara just hightailed it out of there real quick and went and sat down back on the couch in the lobby at GQ like it didn't bother her. Actually to tell you the truth I didn't care either because in reality she is not that attractive to me. She is just OK. I personally think Lily looks much better even though they are both MILF's. Oh well, yea can't wait till Lily gets back. We always have an awesome time together.
I am glad you chose the word "investment." Because an investment may pay off or it could become worthless. I made such an investment, contrary to advise and a better sense of judgment. I guess I did not have the whole scenario planned in my head as it has played out well for you, but I thought I had invested in a "relationship." The investment has blown up and it is totally worthless. It is worse than worthless because of the emotional turmoil it has caused. I curse the day I met that woman and fell for her charms.Don't sweat it dude. Some of us on this forum "feel your pain". The thing is just don't get burned again. I was stupid once many years ago. I repeat once. I learned quickly and ever since then I have never been "ripped off" emotionally or financially. I even had two relationships after that with two other AMP girls and had a great time. I never gave them any money or anything. Well, except for paying for hotel rooms for me and her. I had to sleep after all that crazy sex! We all pay for sex one way or another whether married or single. The trick is to not get "taken" either way. You just got to learn how to think like a woman and be one step ahead of these con artists. I know I sure wised up many years ago. Experience is the worlds greatest teacher.
I think some of you maybe faced with a provider possibly asking for the tip upfront. But why? Why some and not others. Here's my possible listing on what may be the reasons on why they do ask. Some of which are pretty obvious.
1. She's been short tipped before you. At this point, it may not even matter about your color, race and age. She's bothered mentally and emotionally that she expects tip upfront.
2. You fit the profile. You look like someone whom she feels would short tip her based on her past experience with someone who did.
3. You're a foreigner / outsider. She may feel that you're someone that doesn't know the correct tip amount.
4. She asks for a tip upfront to discourage you from picking her. She has her own reason (s). Some of which she may think you're too big for her, rough, demading etc.
I think some of you maybe faced with a provider possibly asking for the tip upfront. But why? Why some and not others. Here's my possible listing on what may be the reasons on why they do ask. Some of which are pretty obvious.
1. She's been short tipped before you. At this point, it may not even matter about your color, race and age. She's bothered mentally and emotionally that she expects tip upfront.
2. You fit the profile. You look like someone whom she feels would short tip her based on her past experience with someone who did.
3. You're a foreigner / outsider. She may feel that you're someone that doesn't know the correct tip amount.
4. She asks for a tip upfront to discourage you from picking her. She has her own reason (s). Some of which she may think you're too big for her, rough, demading etc.In my experience, the key to gaining immediate trust in not appearing suspicious, is to score points with MS before you even meet the provider. I get the feeling that MS will pass on her opinion to the provider which will affect your initial visit. I usually spend time talking story with MS, bring along some snacks or fruits to break the ice with MS until they warm up to you and trust in you. Speaking a bit of Korean or Chinese is also very helpful in trying to make a good impression. The last time that I was asked for a tip upfront was when I was met by an MS who was upset at me for writing things about one of her workers, even after it had been six months. When I tried to buddy up to her, the girl that she sent me still asked for a tip upfront. On the other hand, MS Jun from CHM is the perfect person to score points with. Just walk in say Hello, let her grab your crotch, even helps to grab her hand and stick it into your pants for better access. Then when you get in the room with her, pull down your pants and let her see jr. May even get a quick BBBJ, especially while fingering her crotch. Bingo, never had a girl ask me for a tip upfront at CHM.
Its cool dude, will try to keep a cap on it. Don't want to piss you off, we go back a long ways. All the way to the meetingplace. Remember those days?Ah yeah, when I found that site in 2001, I was like a blind man who could suddenly see! I went from a 20-25% satisfaction rate with my visits to a nearly 100% once I knew who to see! My first conquest from that site was Vanessa! Then from that site, I found the original GAIH.
That was a good time to be mongering mid-90s through mid-'00s. Back when money was a plenty!
I think when Lily shows up to a place she kind of takes over. Since she allows almost anything in the book other girls there have to "up the ante" to get some of the money. I am almost sure that is why Sara started doing BBFS with some customers. When Sara approached me at GQ she seemed to have a "I don't care attitude" with me when I refused to pay her upfront. It was strange because most girls that I turn down for payment upfront try to negotiate and I eventually win them over. But Sara just hightailed it out of there real quick and went and sat down back on the couch in the lobby at GQ like it didn't bother her. Actually to tell you the truth I didn't care either because in reality she is not that attractive to me. She is just OK. I personally think Lily looks much better even though they are both MILF's. Oh well, yea can't wait till Lily gets back. We always have an awesome time together.Yeah, I saw the two of them weeks apart and although I enjoyed Sara, Lily ate her lunch. Not only was there two pops, but she has this uber-sexiness about her. Something as little as her slightly, open-mouthed smile just makes me crazy!
I get the feeling that MS will pass on her opinion to the provider which will affect your initial visit.
MS Jun from CHM is the perfect person to score points with. Just walk in say Hello, let her grab your crotch, even helps to grab her hand and stick it into your pants for better access. Then when you get in the room with her, pull down your pants and let her see jr. Bingo, never had a girl ask me for a tip upfront at CHM.Exactly right IMHO. Though I never opened my pants but did get my hands all over her; she gets hot fast. Then the girl comes in all primed and ready to go.
A provider once told me that a customer wanted to exchange the 200 dollars charge for a good review on this board. This reminded me of a scene in Lost in America. The Albert Brooks' character was trying to convince a Las Vegas casino owner to give back the money he lost gambling in order to get good publicity with this policy.
Yeah, I saw the two of them weeks apart and although I enjoyed Sara, Lily ate her lunch. Not only was there two pops, but she has this uber-sexiness about her. Something as little as her slightly, open-mouthed smile just makes me crazy!I guess Sera bailed with her buddy Rose from GQ to Rose's new place at Lotus. GQ's former team reassembling at Lotus, including Michelle. I guess probably Lexi soon.
I am glad you chose the word "investment." Because an investment may pay off or it could become worthless. I made such an investment, contrary to advise and a better sense of judgment. I guess I did not have the whole scenario planned in my head as it has played out well for you, but I thought I had invested in a "relationship." The investment has blown up and it is totally worthless. It is worse than worthless because of the emotional turmoil it has caused. I curse the day I met that woman and fell for her charms.Hey this might not be the best encouragement, but at least you got robbed. What I'm trying to say is from what you are saying, there was a legit reason on why it didn't work. Some just get into a relationship with a provider as they would with any normal girl. Even though she does not demand anything, the thought of her business is something that could give you a headache. In simple terms, its one thing when things aren't in your control but another when you do have some control. Sorry hope you can comprehend what I'm trying to say, I just don't want to make a long speech on it.
Hey this might not be the best encouragement, but at least you got robbed. What I'm trying to say is from what you are saying, there was a legit reason on why it didn't work. Some just get into a relationship with a provider as they would with any normal girl. Even though she does not demand anything, the thought of her business is something that could give you a headache. In simple terms, its one thing when things aren't in your control but another when you do have some control. Sorry hope you can comprehend what I'm trying to say, I just don't want to make a long speech on it.Yup. Just take it for what it was worth and move on. Better that it happened now than when you fall deeper and the deeper and then get burned later. Imagine if it had been going on for years?
Hey this might not be the best encouragement, but at least you got robbed. What I'm trying to say is from what you are saying, there was a legit reason on why it didn't work. Some just get into a relationship with a provider as they would with any normal girl. Even though she does not demand anything, the thought of her business is something that could give you a headache. In simple terms, its one thing when things aren't in your control but another when you do have some control. Sorry hope you can comprehend what I'm trying to say, I just don't want to make a long speech on it.I never had a BBE or "boy friend experience" in my "relationship," for better or worse. I just had an insane number of sessions with a provider that lasted many months. Thought there was comfort and rapport that led to discount that led to many sessions. Thought we were "friends," not boyfriend / girlfriend, just friends. Thought we would be friends once she left the business or the state due to "shared history." But we were not "friends." We were never going to be friends. I was just a nonthreatening, nonpushy guy that was easy money. When it blew up over stupid misunderstanding and bad or no communication, it became clear that an "investment" in a "relationship" was all just a mirage. Can't believe I ever cared for this person as a human being let alone a friend. Should have treated her like a piece of meat, which in a way that is all she wanted to be treated in a "customer" relationship. Can't believe I ever shown concern and respect to this person, a pro's pro. Fucking unreal.
Yup. Just take it for what it was worth and move on. Better that it happened now than when you fall deeper and the deeper and then get burned later. Imagine if it had been going on for years?Could not agree with you more. Had it continued longer it would have been like feeding my blood to a fucking vampire.
In my experience, the key to gaining immediate trust in not appearing suspicious, is to score points with MS before you even meet the provider. I get the feeling that MS will pass on her opinion to the provider which will affect your initial visit. I usually spend time talking story with MS, bring along some snacks or fruits to break the ice with MS until they warm up to you and trust in you. Speaking a bit of Korean or Chinese is also very helpful in trying to make a good impression. The last time that I was asked for a tip upfront was when I was met by an MS who was upset at me for writing things about one of her workers, even after it had been six months. When I tried to buddy up to her, the girl that she sent me still asked for a tip upfront. On the other hand, MS Jun from CHM is the perfect person to score points with. Just walk in say Hello, let her grab your crotch, even helps to grab her hand and stick it into your pants for better access. Then when you get in the room with her, pull down your pants and let her see jr. May even get a quick BBBJ, especially while fingering her crotch. Bingo, never had a girl ask me for a tip upfront at CHM.Perhaps, but I just keep going back to the same place and never had any problems. They are more afraid of you when you are new because they are LE testing. If you come in like a horndog, they'll be more calm then if you look around nervously like you don't know why you're there.
I am going to add one under the repeat category that for me would be classified as "investment". I will repeat with a provider if we hit it off can develop a relationship where the sex is still great, but I can take her out periodically to grab a bite to eat, perhaps even a movie together, or whatever, outside of typical AMP activities. I am not talking about GFE necessarily, but more staying in touch and having "sexual encounter" on a regular basis even though she may have long retired from AMPing and has gone on to have a regular life outside of the AMPs. There are currently, three former providers that I see, who have left the AMP scene a couple of years ago that still enjoy the sex, but have either gotten married or have regular boyfriends, but miss certain aspects of their former lives. For me, it is important that they have a stable relationship with someone else as it keeps our relationship comfortable and non threatening towards the others. I still give them a tip for time spent, but it is more for my own peace of mind rather than being a requirement from them.I agree. Taking providers out is exciting to me. Its like she's living in a secret world but she trusts you enough to let you take her out into the real world. Some of the things I've seen tripped me out because of how normal there life was yet they still choose to do this profession at night. I've picked AMP girls up at their families home, taken them to movies, had sex with them for at my place for hours, got a call from one of them I was close with that a customer ripped her off by not paying and didn't feel like working that night so I picked her up and we drank beer and I drove her around the island instead. Its weird when they seem normal yet when you're driving them around they answer calls from customers telling them when she'll be back to work and stuff, very strange.
In my experience, the key to gaining immediate trust in not appearing suspicious, is to score points with MS before you even meet the provider. I get the feeling that MS will pass on her opinion to the provider which will affect your initial visit. I usually spend time talking story with MS, bring along some snacks or fruits to break the ice with MS until they warm up to you and trust in you. Speaking a bit of Korean or Chinese is also very helpful in trying to make a good impression. The last time that I was asked for a tip upfront was when I was met by an MS who was upset at me for writing things about one of her workers, even after it had been six months. When I tried to buddy up to her, the girl that she sent me still asked for a tip upfront. On the other hand, MS Jun from CHM is the perfect person to score points with. Just walk in say Hello, let her grab your crotch, even helps to grab her hand and stick it into your pants for better access. Then when you get in the room with her, pull down your pants and let her see jr. May even get a quick BBBJ, especially while fingering her crotch. Bingo, never had a girl ask me for a tip upfront at CHM.Having a good thing with MS does help to your advantage. The providers feel more at ease as you're not a total stranger to the place. But, it still may not be enough though. The girl can still feel bothered by what type of customer she may be servicing and dealing with for the first time. A customer needs to realize that not all AMP providers will be the same and look at you the same way regardless if MS says you're a good customer. The provider maybe emotionally bothered by a previous customer she had a bad experience with and can't turn off her moods. You could be a nice guy but, she doesn't know it yet. I think coming in with a fun, happy and playful attitude does strengthen your chances because it puts MS and the providers at ease. You don't pose a threat to them. I doubt MS and the providers will be complaining that you're too friendly and that you smile too much. LOL. If you feel that the providers interest level in servicing you may appear to not be going in your favor, learn to adapt to the situation and make it work in your favor. It makes it easier on the next customer who sees her because her mood is more calm and she's not as upset / bothered. Well, unless he's another demanding type that gets her all moody / upset again.
RadioHazard
02-03-12, 14:26
Nice advice here. I have a feeling splooge is a good example of this. I used to monger more when I am pissed of or stressed out but I found I had a better time when I go when I am in a happier mood. One of my ATF who I saw a lot actually commented on this with me on how I was in such a good mood which lead to one of the better sessions.
Having a good thing with MS does help to your advantage. The providers feel more at ease as you're not a total stranger to the place. But, it still may not be enough though. The girl can still feel bothered by what type of customer she may be servicing and dealing with for the first time. A customer needs to realize that not all AMP providers will be the same and look at you the same way regardless if MS says you're a good customer. The provider maybe emotionally bothered by a previous customer she had a bad experience with and can't turn off her moods. You could be a nice guy but, she doesn't know it yet. I think coming in with a fun, happy and playful attitude does strengthen your chances because it puts MS and the providers at ease. You don't pose a threat to them. I doubt MS and the providers will be complaining that you're too friendly and that you smile too much. LOL. If you feel that the providers interest level in servicing you may appear to not be going in your favor, learn to adapt to the situation and make it work in your favor. It makes it easier on the next customer who sees her because her mood is more calm and she's not as upset / bothered. Well, unless he's another demanding type that gets her all moody / upset again.
Nice advice here. I have a feeling splooge is a good example of this. I used to monger more when I am pissed of or stressed out but I found I had a better time when I go when I am in a happier mood. One of my ATF who I saw a lot actually commented on this with me on how I was in such a good mood which lead to one of the better sessions.Radio, I'm like you and I'm sure others go AMP because they're stressed on something / someone. I've heard it from providers themselves. But, don't make it obvious to the provider that you are bothered. You bring tension and can make the provider (s) nervous. A provider doesn't want a customer taking out his aggression on her. Therefore, simmer down so, it doesn't happen. It's a good thing because you are calming yourself down so the provider feels more at ease and comfortable with you. She's not intimidated by you. Then, she's more willing to do her thing. As a result, both the customer / providers moods are calm. Then boom focus on the oofing.
It's good that Splooge jokes around and be comical online as I'm sure he does that with the girls to. It will only work in his favor when he does do that. He's not the type that thinks "This * better be good or else I'm going to be pissed!" Heh, guys who think like this are no better than a provider who has an attitude. Who would you rather see as a customer? The bitchy attitude provider or a friendly provider? Who would a provider rather service? A demanding complainer or a fun loving happy customer? Heh, you expect the provider be friendly but, you the customer is not friendly. But wait! You are being friendly but the provider is not? No sweat, your friendly nature will conquer and smother her attitude.
Heh, I thought I bump this thread and talk about PB54. I know, I know, get dramas when he posts things. But, I see his point though. I can understand PBs point of view. I'm not like how PB is and expects this / that etc. But, in regards to his view, he looks at it where if you're someone that goes into an AMP with 2 bills, why do you need to be concerned about YMMV and attraction when it's a business? His perspective is that AMP providers shouldn't be picky and selective on who to DFK and who not to DFK with when in the end, it's all about making the money. This is not a matchmaking hookup / date with a female at an AMP. Why does a customer needs to be charming and attractive to be serviced when he's the one paying? If a female customer were to see a male provider and she's tipping him, then, she can say she wants an attractive male provider. If you're the customer, of course you should be picky because you're the one coughing up the $$. If the staff at a restaurant only caters to attractive customers, how will they stay in business long?
Waiteress at a restaurant: "I'm sorry sir but I just don't feel like giving you good service"
Customer: "Hah? Why not? What's wrong with you?"
Waiter at a restaurant: : "Sir, you seem like the demanding type. Also, I just don't feel attracted to you to really want to serve you. I just don't think you're cute enough.
Customer: "What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm here to eat some food. I have money to pay. So, take my order down."
Waitress at a restaurant: "Sir, you're mean to me. Until you tip me first and make me feel more comfortable, I'm not serving you."
LOL.
But, of course it's always good to try and be kind, nice and respectful also if you're a customer. You be a dick ass customer, the employees will still assist you but, deep down, wants to just tell you off. If you're a good customer that's friendly and patient, then it's likely that employees at a store / restaurant are more willing to want to assist you.
Heh, I thought I bump this thread and talk about PB54. I know, I know, get dramas when he posts things. But, I see his point though. I can understand PBs point of view. I'm not like how PB is and expects this / that etc. But, in regards to his view, he looks at it where if you're someone that goes into an AMP with 2 bills, why do you need to be concerned about YMMV and attraction when it's a business? His perspective is that AMP providers shouldn't be picky and selective on who to DFK and who not to DFK with when in the end, it's all about making the money. This is not a matchmaking hookup / date with a female at an AMP. Why does a customer needs to be charming and attractive to be serviced when he's the one paying? If a female customer were to see a male provider and she's tipping him, then, she can say she wants an attractive male provider. If you're the customer, of course you should be picky because you're the one coughing up the $$. If the staff at a restaurant only caters to attractive customers, how will they stay in business long?
Waiteress at a restaurant: "I'm sorry sir but I just don't feel like giving you good service"
Customer: "Hah? Why not? What's wrong with you?"
Waiter at a restaurant: : "Sir, you seem like the demanding type. Also, I just don't feel attracted to you to really want to serve you. I just don't think you're cute enough.
Customer: "What the hell does that have to do with anything? I'm here to eat some food. I have money to pay. So, take my order down."
Waitress at a restaurant: "Sir, you're mean to me. Until you tip me first and make me feel more comfortable, I'm not serving you."
LOL.
But, of course it's always good to try and be kind, nice and respectful also if you're a customer. You be a dick ass customer, the employees will still assist you but, deep down, wants to just tell you off. If you're a good customer that's friendly and patient, then it's likely that employees at a store / restaurant are more willing to want to assist you.Happy Charlie thinks Uki's logic is flawed and his analogy false. Not only should every provider consider giving DFK as basic service, but she should give discount to the customer who does good DFK in return. And the uglier and the more stinky breath the customer, the bigger the discount. Happy Charlie, his stinky breath notwithstanding, does good DFK.
There is a lot to be said both about seeing new women and seeing your ATFs. Variety is the spice of life, especially the mongering life, but there is comfort in familiar routines that being with ATFs allow. The same go for positions. 69, mish, standing mish, doggie, cowgirl, squat hump (is that "froggie"?). With a new provider there is too much uncertainty to think about trying new or exotic positions. But with your ATFs, how many of you try to spice it up all the time by trying new positions? What new positions? I am looking at websites like sexinfo101. Com and the positions and I am thinking, shit, why have I not tried this or that when doing repeats with ATFs? Which AMPs have the rooms with the "furnitures" that would facilitate experimentation? And which of the providers, ATFs or not, would most likely go for trying new positions? Now, I have not been with Sky / Apple or Jay at GQ very many times but two of them just come to my mind as women who would enjoy not just sex but new positions. And what does it say about an AFT provider that you can think of who does not care to deviate from a vanilla routine? I can think of one right now who told me she did not even like sex and shame on me for having spent big bucks on her session after session, confusing comfort and rapport with boredom and monotany.
Happy Charlie thinks Uki's logic is flawed and his analogy false. Not only should every provider consider giving DFK as basic service, but she should give discount to the customer who does good DFK in return. And the uglier and the more stinky breath the customer, the bigger the discount. Happy Charlie, his stinky breath notwithstanding, does good DFK.Discount? Discount! That was be a dream come true. I would go AMP more offen. LOL.
Handyman808
04-16-12, 01:53
Hey Fellas,
Kinda new to the hobby, I've been to a couple AMPs in the past but have started regularly visiting only this year.
One thing I've noticed in my brief travels is that some AMPs offer a menu of options while others only offer FS (sometimes without massage).
As you can see from my SN & title I prefer a good old fashion HE over FS (don't know why, I just do). So I was hoping you guys could recommend a few places to broaden my horizons.
I've been to Apple & Angel in CC and have enjoyed both.
A place with that also has TS would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
P. S. Sorry if this is in the wrong thread.
Hey Fellas,
Kinda new to the hobby, I've been to a couple AMPs in the past but have started regularly visiting only this year.
One thing I've noticed in my brief travels is that some AMPs offer a menu of options while others only offer FS (sometimes without massage).
As you can see from my SN & title I prefer a good old fashion HE over FS (don't know why, I just do). So I was hoping you guys could recommend a few places to broaden my horizons.
I've been to Apple & Angel in CC and have enjoyed both.
A place with that also has TS would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
P. S. Sorry if this is in the wrong thread.Most of the places that offer massages don't have TS. It's just standing showers.
Where do these women come from, the ones that are way past their prime? Do you think they were somehow involved in the business decades ago in their glory days? From the Kbars? Just civilians who know how to cook and clean?
Where do these women come from, the ones that are way past their prime? Do you think they were somehow involved in the business decades ago in their glory days? From the Kbars? Just civilians who know how to cook and clean?Today its a mix, just depends on how the owner wants to operate. Some are the owners themselves and mostly were providers at one time and some are just hired from classifieds.
There is a lot to be said both about seeing new women and seeing your ATFs. Variety is the spice of life, especially the mongering life, but there is comfort in familiar routines that being with ATFs allow. The same go for positions. 69, mish, standing mish, doggie, cowgirl, squat hump (is that "froggie"?). With a new provider there is too much uncertainty to think about trying new or exotic positions. But with your ATFs, how many of you try to spice it up all the time by trying new positions? What new positions? I am looking at websites like sexinfo101. Com and the positions and I am thinking, shit, why have I not tried this or that when doing repeats with ATFs? Which AMPs have the rooms with the "furnitures" that would facilitate experimentation? And which of the providers, ATFs or not, would most likely go for trying new positions? Now, I have not been with Sky / Apple or Jay at GQ very many times but two of them just come to my mind as women who would enjoy not just sex but new positions. And what does it say about an AFT provider that you can think of who does not care to deviate from a vanilla routine? I can think of one right now who told me she did not even like sex and shame on me for having spent big bucks on her session after session, confusing comfort and rapport with boredom and monotany.Not that I have enough experiences to add much but I thought a bump might get more guys sharing.
For me I'm still pretty shy and not comfortable "giving instructions" like master Splooge. But my session with Sua was super fun doing some different positions besides the basics.
There was one where she did RCG and then wrapped her legs under mine and then leaned forward on her hands. The other one started in DS then she laid flat on her stomach with my legs straddleing her. There were a few more that I can't even begin to describe.
Oh damn just thinking about it I want more of that! Ahhh but there are so many more girls to see.
Later.
Z
Man. I haven't had some Sua since P10 days but my session with her didn't make me want to repeat. She did go "fuck my face" which was nice LOL. May have to TOFTT and try her again.
Not that I have enough experiences to add much but I thought a bump might get more guys sharing.
For me I'm still pretty shy and not comfortable "giving instructions" like master Splooge. But my session with Sua was super fun doing some different positions besides the basics.
There was one where she did RCG and then wrapped her legs under mine and then leaned forward on her hands. The other one started in DS then she laid flat on her stomach with my legs straddleing her. There were a few more that I can't even begin to describe.
Oh damn just thinking about it I want more of that! Ahhh but there are so many more girls to see.
Later.
Z
With everyone moving around, retiring, returning, vacationing. Should we keep a roster? And possible to have this board sticky them on the top where the community can update? I used to think what a dumb idea of having all that info listed for LE to easily find it. But if they wanted the info. They can RTFF also. It's not like an updated list by us. Would make it THAT much easier for big brother to go raid.
Damn, maybe even a girl rating system that takes the avg L / A/S of reports too! Ok. I'm getting lazy to RTFF *sigh* =)
Rico Suave808
06-18-12, 11:46
With everyone moving around, retiring, returning, vacationing. Should we keep a roster?Already have some:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10209-AMP-MT-Names-Changes-and-Locations-Status
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10152-Honolulu-Phone-Book
What I meant was like a roster of the girls.
First post in the 7 thread would have.
Girl#1.
Girl#2.
Girl#3.
Girl#4 (vacation)
Ichiban.
Kelly.
Bobbie (vacation)
Sindi (retired)
Maybe it's a limitation of this board? I can't remember which forum I go to, where the community updates post #2. Which is stickied on the top for the community to update. Of course, I can see it being abused by competitors and butthurt wannabe BFs
Yeah. Too complicated.
Besides, if you want to know who is working just ask Alohaoe LOL. Or call mama.
What I meant was like a roster of the girls.
First post in the 7 thread would have.
Girl#1.
Girl#2.
Girl#3.
Girl#4 (vacation)
Ichiban.
Kelly.
Bobbie (vacation)
Sindi (retired)
Maybe it's a limitation of this board? I can't remember which forum I go to, where the community updates post #2. Which is stickied on the top for the community to update. Of course, I can see it being abused by competitors and butthurt wannabe BFs
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
As RickJames pointed out in the Pine Tree thread our resident disgruntled monger PB54 doesn't seem to get it,"Even when its providers who have been well known for not providing BB services he partakes and, SURPRISE! No BB!"
PB54 if your experiences suck soooo bad then maybe it's time to hang it up? Or why not just stick to the chicks that WILL give you what you want?
I also got to back my buddy Splooge. That guy knows his AMP chicks and if you try and get into a pissing match with him you going to go down. So, no sense get all hot and bothered about stuff because guys like Splooge and now RickJames will put you in your place.
PB54 just report and check the attitude at the forum welcome page. If you do that most guys would appreciate what you have to offer, especially since you've been around for a while. By the way, it would be nice to see some reports from you where you actually got the service you were looking for. That way other dudes who want BBeverthing will have some intel.
Later,
Z
Atmatic123
09-24-12, 02:28
Not sure if this is the right thread but I always wondered about how these girls move on from the AMP life? I know a lot of them live somewhere else and only come here to work, but local ones like Honey for example are stuck right here and will prob run into a past customre (damn that might be awkward LOL) I mean I guess its common sense they do the job and save their money and go an pursue whatever dreams they have or maybe even end up marrying one of their customers? Just rambling right now but if any of you want to chime in please do LOL would love to here others theories or real stories.
First. ZEEMO. You don't tell me what to do. Second, if Spoof is your buddy, you must be a *****. He / her posts are mostly fake or greatly embellished. I do hang it up. I travel overseas all the time. My reports are based on what happened with "chicks" reported to be great. You are posting fake reports hoping the girls will read them and like you after fooking 6-8 guys a day.
Monica is the best girl on the island. But a little to old for me now. Same with Coco. No way that Christy comes close to those two.
Playboy54.
Wow. Chumps defend girls fooking 6-8 times a day who make $8000 a month with no kissing and all covered service and no massage. What a circus.
Splooge McDuck
09-24-12, 15:56
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First. ZEEMO. You don't tell me what to do. Second, if Spoof is your buddy, you must be a. He / her posts are mostly fake or greatly embellished. I do hang it up. I travel overseas all the time. My reports are based on what happened with "chicks" reported to be great. You are posting fake reports hoping the girls will read them and like you after fooking 6-8 guys a day.
Monica is the best girl on the island. But a little to old for me now. Same with Coco. No way that Christy comes close to those two.
Playboy54.
Wow. Chumps defend girls fooking 6-8 times a day who make $8000 a month with no kissing and all covered service and no massage. What a circus.First, wow I bet no one saw that thoughtful response coming.
B. You make me laugh saying I or any dude on this board posts to get girls to "like" them. Awesome. Maybe I should try walking into an AMP and announce,"the Zeemo is in the house ladies!"
And three, Everyone knows about Moinca and Coco. Now instead of trying to prove everyone else wrong how about some other BB reports so that guys that care about that stuff have more options.
Also if you really want to help when you have a bad experience how about some actual details regarding why it was bad. We all get that you want BB but beside that what else was wrong? Was the massage not good? Did the girl have a bad attitude? Did you get shorted on time?
I think I saw a post you wrote about some girl that had "sad" tits? Why were they sad? Saggy? Too small? Too big? It's the details that help.
Honestly if you weren't suck a dick head with the shit you post most guys would appreciate your contributions.
Me love you long time,
Z
By the way, it would be nice to see some reports from you where you actually got the service you were looking for. That way other dudes who want BBeverthing will have some intel.Isn't that the whole point of this forum. That's one of the reasons that drew me here to start off with. I could understand if the provider asks not to mention about the BB service because I've had a few that asked me that also. I figure if they're gracious and willing to give you the royal BB treatment on top of the "usual damage" I'm almost obligated to obey their wishes on not saying anything. But if they have no mind about it share the info.
Bottom Line Up Front: TINA at Golden Queen sucked. If you must know more than that "her tits were sad" because she had none. Plus she had bad breath. Do I need to describe or compare her breath to something or can I just say that? What kind of man spends 45 minutes writing about his AMP experience with a girl who gets banged 6 times a day, or 30 times a week. One who writes fake reports hoping the girl will read it and like him (aka clown).
Playboy54!
All covered service: House Fee $25, plus $100.
Last week had a coupon for Pacific Spa for $15 off so $35 HF. Anyone check this out? Any good looking providers here since the infamous Kim left?
Bottom Line Up Front: TINA at Golden Queen sucked. If you must know more than that "her tits were sad" because she had none. Plus she had bad breath. Do I need to describe or compare her breath to something or can I just say that? What kind of man spends 45 minutes writing about his AMP experience with a girl who gets banged 6 times a day, or 30 times a week. One who writes fake reports hoping the girl will read it and like him (aka clown).
Playboy54!
All covered service: House Fee $25, plus $100.Ok she ain't got no tits that's good info. But there are guys that like small boobs. The bad breath thing oh yeah big turn off. Thanks for sharing and with that I now know that I'll pass on Tina.
Then you got to get all agro about the guys that like to write stuff about their experiences. Some of us enjoy writing and reading those long posts. Is it all true? Hell if I know? Could be all fake. But you know what it's FUN!
When I read stuff I never assume that it's gospel. If the girl sounds good and has had good reports (even if some are fake) I go give her a try. Now I'm not made of money like some dudes and I don't get to go play with international girls like you so I take my time and do as much research as possible before plunking down the $$.
PB54 I know you got lots of info that can help me and a bunch of other guys. So can you just let go of the "fuck you all to hell" attitude?
Yo man if it ain't FUN it ain't worth doing.
Z
RadioHazard
09-25-12, 00:02
The forum was made to review Girls. Not to review other peoples reviews. When we try to analyze another persons review thats when things go south.
Ok she ain't got no tits that's good info. But there are guys that like small boobs. The bad breath thing oh yeah big turn off. Thanks for sharing and with that I now know that I'll pass on Tina.
Then you got to get all agro about the guys that like to write stuff about their experiences. Some of us enjoy writing and reading those long posts. Is it all true? Hell if I know? Could be all fake. But you know what it's FUN!
When I read stuff I never assume that it's gospel. If the girl sounds good and has had good reports (even if some are fake) I go give her a try. Now I'm not made of money like some dudes and I don't get to go play with international girls like you so I take my time and do as much research as possible before plunking down the $$.
PB54 I know you got lots of info that can help me and a bunch of other guys. So can you just let go of the "fuck you all to hell" attitude?
Yo man if it ain't FUN it ain't worth doing.
ZYou speak truth, Z. My sentiments exactly. Thanks for sharing your wisdom. And believe it or not, thank you too, PB54.
RickJames808
09-25-12, 18:02
Still on that "you mongers who disagree with my infantile ravings are really providers" witch hunt. LOL. Sad sack o'shit that one. The way he bashes providers (for legit service no less) and mongers who harbor different opinion it wouldn't surprise me if this ***** was Hana herself.
Rickjames Byatch!
[ Originally Posted by Playboy54 *[View Original Post]
[First. ZEEMO. You don't tell me what to do. Second, if Spoof is your buddy, you must be a. He / her posts are mostly fake or greatly embellished. I do hang it up. I travel overseas all the time. My reports are based on what happened with "chicks" reported to be great. You are posting fake reports hoping the girls will read them and like you after fooking 6-8 guys a day.
Monica is the best girl on the island. But a little to old for me now. Same with Coco. No way that Christy comes close to those two.
Playboy54.
Wow. Chumps defend girls fooking 6-8 times a day who make $8000 a month with no kissing and all covered service and no massage. What a circus.]
This little mongering community is indeed a circus, and you PunkBitch54 are its biggest clown.
Splooge McDuck
09-25-12, 18:40
Haha thats a good conspiracy theory RJ. No wonder VIP Hana is like that & such a horrible ho. Then she posts under her GB54 screen name trying to take all the good providers down with her LOL.
S Mc
Totaly agree, they say its the same with watching porn, you want something more intense and the others become boring, been there done that, thats when attitude and service become more important than looks, you want both, but attitude and service.Service and Attitude is important but, still cannot overlook the part on the looks to. There's no way most guys would want to do a provider who's Service / Attitude is there but, looks / body aren't that great. They got to at least have a certain level of attractiveness in order to get visually excited and turned on. Her attitude maybe nice and service is willing to please but, if the body is real saggy, wrinkly, get cellulite, is pear shaped and face is not pretty, no can. The looks still comes first when looking to try someone new and whether you're going to partake. Then, you hope her attitude/service will follow through.
Service and Attitude is important but, still cannot overlook the part on the looks to. There's no way most guys would want to do a provider who's Service / Attitude is there but, looks / body aren't that great. They got to at least have a certain level of attractiveness in order to get visually excited and turned on. Her attitude maybe nice and service is willing to please but, if the body is real saggy, wrinkly, get cellulite, is pear shaped and face is not pretty, no can. The looks still comes first when looking to try someone new and whether you're going to partake. Then, you hope her attitude/service will follow through.Hard to say because its hard to believe some providers that have been reported in the past. Everyone had their own taste but I personally think a lot of people let their other head do too much thinking, as a result lowering their standards.
Getting Old
09-27-12, 16:39
PB54 is a zealot with a messianic mission to transform mongering in Honolulu along the model of overseas mongering meccas. But since Honolulu is not a Third World shithole, the mongering experience could not be transplanted and replicated in terms of the selection of girls, what the girls would do and for how much. He is the flip side of another zealot with a mission in Honolulu, Katherine Xian of PASS. She has a prohibitionist agenda and is willing to lie, cheat and steal to get her way.
PB54 is also a junkie. His bitterness, anger and negativity are all symptoms, even if he could monger within a reasonable budget for ten years. The bar of satisfaction is being raised all the time, and so is his frustration. He said he had to fuck Cheri at VIP hard and talk nasty and demeaning to her because of bad service. If he does not watch out this behavior may escalate. And for someone who wants to drive away bad providers who he accuses of chasing away good providers, he was conspicuously absent when a good provider at Rose came under attack. But he wasn't the only one.
Both he and Xian are crazy. Both are uncompromising extremists who see the glass as half empty. When in reality the glass is half full and Honolulu has the best AMP system in the country from both the mongering perspective and the militant feminist perspective. And their attitudes and actions undermine the good system we have.I have been lurking on this board for awhile trying to see if my ATF was still working and during that time I have noticed Playboy54 posts are mostly critical of providers as well. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but learned a long time ago if you have nothing nice to say. No say nothing (just facts without the flourishes please).
Brother OC, very well written post good job!
RickJames808
09-28-12, 00:59
Much more mature than my own impassioned anti GB54 rants.
RJ.
PB54 is a zealot with a messianic mission to transform mongering in Honolulu along the model of overseas mongering meccas. But since Honolulu is not a Third World shithole, the mongering experience could not be transplanted and replicated in terms of the selection of girls, what the girls would do and for how much. He is the flip side of another zealot with a mission in Honolulu, Katherine Xian of PASS. She has a prohibitionist agenda and is willing to lie, cheat and steal to get her way.
PB54 is also a junkie. His bitterness, anger and negativity are all symptoms, even if he could monger within a reasonable budget for ten years. The bar of satisfaction is being raised all the time, and so is his frustration. He said he had to fuck Cheri at VIP hard and talk nasty and demeaning to her because of bad service. If he does not watch out this behavior may escalate. And for someone who wants to drive away bad providers who he accuses of chasing away good providers, he was conspicuously absent when a good provider at Rose came under attack. But he wasn't the only one.
Both he and Xian are crazy. Both are uncompromising extremists who see the glass as half empty. When in reality the glass is half full and Honolulu has the best AMP system in the country from both the mongering perspective and the militant feminist perspective. And their attitudes and actions undermine the good system we have.
Splooge McDuck
09-28-12, 01:26
PB54 is a zealot with a messianic mission to transform mongering in Honolulu along the model of overseas mongering meccas. But since Honolulu is not a Third World shithole, the mongering experience could not be transplanted and replicated in terms of the selection of girls, what the girls would do and for how much. He is the flip side of another zealot with a mission in Honolulu, Katherine Xian of PASS. She has a prohibitionist agenda and is willing to lie, cheat and steal to get her way.
PB54 is also a junkie. His bitterness, anger and negativity are all symptoms, even if he could monger within a reasonable budget for ten years. The bar of satisfaction is being raised all the time, and so is his frustration. He said he had to fuck Cheri at VIP hard and talk nasty and demeaning to her because of bad service. If he does not watch out this behavior may escalate. And for someone who wants to drive away bad providers who he accuses of chasing away good providers, he was conspicuously absent when a good provider at Rose came under attack. But he wasn't the only one.
Both he and Xian are crazy. Both are uncompromising extremists who see the glass as half empty. When in reality the glass is half full and Honolulu has the best AMP system in the country from both the mongering perspective and the militant feminist perspective. And their attitudes and actions undermine the good system we have.Yes, this is the most realistic & mature way to describe GB54 LOL. Spot on diagnosis.
S Mc
Last week had a coupon for Pacific Spa for $15 off so $35 HF. Anyone check this out? Any good looking providers here since the infamous Kim left?Just wanted to give my $0. 02 as I haven't been around for a while. Honestly, have not once seen a positive review of the place. I myself can't say that anything was stellar with the place, but when you have other choices on the island. Has anybody had any great experiences at PS?
H
RadioHazard
09-28-12, 18:50
If anyone here every thinks I have become a "junkie". Please let me know.
Yes, this is the most realistic & mature way to describe GB54 LOL. Spot on diagnosis.
S Mc
Splooge McDuck
09-29-12, 05:28
If anyone here every thinks I have become a "junkie". Please let me know.Ey Radi-broHazard, you know you monger too much right? Haha.
S Mc
Splooge McDuck
09-29-12, 16:37
Ey Radi-broHazard, you know you monger too much right? Haha.
S McEy Radi-bro dude, you know you monger too much when your PM box is full. Clear some space.
S Mc
If anyone here every thinks I have become a "junkie". Please let me know.Based on our communication, yes you are, as I am. It is like alcohol. It is not an absolute amount that you drink that would make you an alcoholic. It is how alcohol, regardless of the amount, affects your life. Some people can drink a lot with little effect on his professional and social and family life, whereas others may drink much less but with severe consequences. If mongering has affected your finances or emotions with the girls, and you cannot slow down or stop until things get back on track, then you are a junkie that needs intervention.
[QUOTE=RadioHazard; 1557278]If anyone here every thinks I have become a "junkie". Please let me know. [/QUOTE
You know you monger too much, when you do it Gangnam Style.
Imagine eating with family or friends at the Japanese restaurant near King and Keeaumoku. There are three cute waitresses with tight clothes. They know you are checking them out, and smile at you. Now you have the sudden urge to go AMP. You excuse yourself and dance out of the restaurant and down Koreamoku Street, Gangnam Style!
Hilifter37
09-30-12, 12:49
If mongering has affected your finances or emotions with the girls, and you cannot slow down or stop until things get back on track, then you are a junkie that needs intervention.I guess I need to slow down myself also. Normally, I just monger 1 or 2 times per week max, but I mongered over 25 times this month, burning right through my bonus. Had fun most of the time, but beginning to feel I am just going through the motions, because I am addicted to it, not because of pleasure or enjoyment.
I guess I need to slow down myself also. Normally, I just monger 1 or 2 times per week max, but I mongered over 25 times this month, burning right through my bonus. Had fun most of the time, but beginning to feel I am just going through the motions, because I am addicted to it, not because of pleasure or enjoyment.25 times in a month was why your reservoir was empty with Tammy at 7. If you were on the pill and empty you could be hard and fuck for long time without coming or could not come. It is not worth it. I did twice a week, probably more, for almost two years and this should have never happened. Once the binge got started it was very difficult to stop. I could have stretched out what happened in the binge over five or six years of careful moderation and I would have been much better off financially and psychologically. Now I have to be austere for a long time.
25 times in a month was why your reservoir was empty with Tammy at 7. If you were on the pill and empty you could be hard and fuck for long time without coming or could not come. It is not worth it. I did twice a week, probably more, for almost two years and this should have never happened. Once the binge got started it was very difficult to stop. I could have stretched out what happened in the binge over five or six years of careful moderation and I would have been much better off financially and psychologically. Now I have to be austere for a long time.Damn.. hilifter37 25 times in a month. Perhaps you should um. Get a girlfriend. Then you can go through the motions with her and perhaps save some money? Not to be judgemental but I used to see the same girl like 5 times a month but learned never to do that again.
Hilifter37
10-03-12, 10:05
I used to see the same girl like 5 times a month but learned never to do that again.Yeah, I got a bonus so I overdid it a little last month. Will get back to my normal of 1 to 3 times per week. I tried not to repeat much, but sometimes I did when the girl I was looking for wasn't available. The only girl I repeated consistently in the past with was Nikki Sweet, and it was always more than 1 hr sessions, so it became a little expensive. Funny and sad thing is, I was told by multiple providers I should get a girlfriend and see the other girls in the line up. What did they mean by that? LOL.
Yeah, I got a bonus so I overdid it a little last month. Will get back to my normal of 1 to 3 times per week. I tried not to repeat much, but sometimes I did when the girl I was looking for wasn't available. The only girl I repeated consistently in the past with was Nikki Sweet, and it was always more than 1 hr sessions, so it became a little expensive. Funny and sad thing is, I was told by multiple providers I should get a girlfriend and see the other girls in the line up. What did they mean by that? LOL.The girls are either being kind hearted and trying to spread the wealth, or they probably think you might have an attachment to them. I've been told the same damned thing, except they tell me I should get married and have kids before it's too late. At that point, I just move on.
Ey Radi-bro dude, you know you monger too much when your PM box is full. Clear some space.
S McYup. I think you went off the deep end. Time to come back and clear your inbox unless you're going to wait it out again LOL.
RadioHazard
10-05-12, 01:32
Ug to busy wishing I was mongering. WTF. Sorry I am clear now.
Yup. I think you went off the deep end. Time to come back and clear your inbox unless you're going to wait it out again LOL.
Playboy54.
Wow. Chumps defend girls fooking 6-8 times a day who make $8000 a month with no kissing and all covered service and no massage. What a circus.Someone here doesn't know their math. Pretend she's getting it 6 times a day. What does that equal here if she gets paid 1. 5 everytime? That's $900 a day. At that rate, she'll make $8000 tax free in about 9 days.
So anyone catching feelings for an amp hoe, just let you know, they are high on sex, high on money, not including other addictions including smoking, drinking, shopping, plastic surgery etc. Just letting you know your chances of a meaningful anything with a hoe who is "stuck" in this business is pretty slim.
The girls are either being kind hearted and trying to spread the wealth, or they probably think you might have an attachment to them. I've been told the same damned thing, except they tell me I should get married and have kids before it's too late. At that point, I just move on.When you look young and you see a girl too often, they will say find a girlfriend. When you get a little older they will say get married. When you get older still, they will say come back soon. LOL.
Splooge McDuck
10-10-12, 18:28
You know you monger too much, when you do it Gangnam Style.
Imagine eating with family or friends at the Japanese restaurant near King and Keeaumoku. There are three cute waitresses with tight clothes. They know you are checking them out, and smile at you. Now you have the sudden urge to go AMP. You excuse yourself and dance out of the restaurant and down Koreamoku Street, Gangnam Style!"You know you monger too much when"
"When you are trying to decide, what new cologne to buy / The names of those who provide, cum to your mind."
I'm gunna try out a different cologne & have narrowed it down to 3 choices based on the names LOL.
1) 1 Million (The scent of The Million)
2) Acqua Di Gio (The translation is just so perfect "Water Of Gio" Hehe)
3) Chanel for Men (Yeah she is)
Serious question here. Does anyone use any of these & do the ladies like the scent. (Providers & Civilians) I mean ya know, like, really like the scent like how some colognes are. Are any of these 3 close to being panty droppers?
S Mc
Splooge McDuck
10-12-12, 17:48
"You know you monger too much when"
"When you are trying to decide, what new cologne to buy / The names of those who provide, cum to your mind."
S Mc"You know you monger too much when / You chuckle at the commercial for the cologne 'Playboy VIP For Men' haha"
Playboy. VIP. LMFAO. Classic stuff.
S Mc
Hilifter37
10-13-12, 15:45
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.It could be like eating KFC everyday for dinner. You enjoy it for the first few times with some variety, but once through the menu, things start to be routine. After a few weeks, no more anticipation of something new to come. Without the anticipation you get in a rut. Starve yourself for a few weeks and continue to read the forum. Don't even tug yourself. The anticipation will grow and the horns start to come out again and you'll hopefully start enjoying your encounters again.
Getting Old
10-13-12, 16:51
It could be like eating KFC everyday for dinner. You enjoy it for the first few times with some variety, but once through the menu, things start to be routine. After a few weeks, no more anticipation of something new to come. Without the anticipation you get in a rut. Starve yourself for a few weeks and continue to read the forum. Don't even tug yourself. The anticipation will grow and the horns start to come out again and you'll hopefully start enjoying your encounters again.I was informed I have low T why having problems but if you near 50 or over you may want to check with your doctor. Hopefully abstaining for awhile will do the trick for you but if not males start to loose the T from age 30's and gets more progressive as you get older. If your mojo doesn't come back in a few weeks as suggested it could be symptoms of something else, if you are coming up on your annual exam you should have your self checked out.
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.Interesting topic man. I'm thinking you go to see a girl and have a nice session but, it's not as exciting as you'd want it to be. So, it's just standard where it's not a bad session but also, it's not excitingly great either. There's a need to spice it up and intensify things than just going through the same routine and steps that it becomes predictable because you've been doing it so often. For some, it's more than just simply banging the girl. The other things like fore play, the conversation, teasing, tickle her, being playful, flirting, laughter, complimenting each other, cuddling, caressing and kissing adds to the excitement.
The provider may not always be the one to add to this excitement though because she's in that cautious / guarded mode. So, you need to do your part to where she's going to lower her defenses and feel more comfortable with you faster. The first visit sometimes may not be enough depending on the provider. Bring in some fun, laughter and excitement when you see the next girl. Help make it exciting and don't rely on the girl to simply knock your socks off. Oh, try bringing your own rubber to if the rubber they use is affecting you. See if that helps.
Lowlys One
10-13-12, 18:43
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.Well Hilifter, this only applies if you currently have no s. O, maybe it's time to take the more expensive but equally satisfying (if you're ready) , well more satisfiying if you're ready. Yup maybe you need something deeper more invested. Relationship! Maybe security and companionship is what the soul needs, just saying, just my thoughts.
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.Twice a week or three times a week is too much. You are bound to get jaded and be bored. And it is too much money even if you are rich. Just save your golf and drinking money and go once a week. All things in moderation. Sounds like you are on a binge, and nothing good comes out of going on a binge. I went on one for almost two years and got into financial distress. Binge should have never happened. Plan strategically.
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.Could be a number of things as you mentioned.
Personally, I got 'bored' years ago, especially with the younger k-girls who IMO provide what I call 'cookie-cutter' sex; very systematic and scripted, matching the great majority of posts many of which (no disrespect intended) essentially sound the same.
In my case, I got tired of being ordered to "lie down!" first thing (whilst having the bed pointed-out, like some dog being commanded to "Stay!"), so that she could start her preprogrammed routine on me. Any requests or attempts at deviation from the regimen would be met with a scowl and physical avoidance. My favorite was the antagonistic question, "WOTCHOODOING!?".
I see the phrase "Took direction well" used more frequently these days, but I don't like to have to tell the girl what to do. I prefer when we both understand each other's body language and the session just 'flows'.
I still enjoy Korean women, but tend to go for the older ones or those not in the limelight.
Mostly, I have migrated to Chinese AMP women because for the most part I've found them to be far more spontaneous, playful and very receptive to my gestures of affection.
I also enjoy Chinese MT women, because they tend to be very friendly and I am satisfied with their massage touch.
Thus, I have tended away from young hotties, sacrificing some beauty for a disproportionately large gain in quantity and quality of service and the manner in which it is delivered.
So bottom line, when a monger gets bored with one thing, he tries something else. I used to see a DTSW as part of my 'rotation' but that was when had oriental hotties and little LE presence.
Some people walk their dogs and have to hold the leash tight to keep their dog with them; many don't have to, and some don't even need the leash.
Btw 'Low T' is something your doctor would be happy to answer your questions on, especially if you are in that age group.
Just my two caveman pebbles.
H M
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.I wish I could go as often as some of you. I have a 1 to 2 week space between visits. Not a high roller like many of you guys.
As for boredom, I think it's called the hedonic treadmill. The more often you do something, the harder it is to get that rush.
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.You know you monger too much when you get bored with hot AMP girls. Life is good! If I find a great AMP girl, I wait at least 10 days to repeat, seem to forget the first session and wii be exciting. If you have a habit of going on a certain day or cycle just for the sake of going, try to skip a session, it makes the next one better. Sometimes the AMP is too easy, when I want a challenge, I go to KB, talk about chalenging, pay at least double and get BS, bact to AMP. For motivation, I watch the Korean music video channel, see a hot unit, and go on the hunt.
Monger on.
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.Dude. 2 to 3 days is not enough buffer in between visits. It will defo get boring real fast. You need to taper it down to once a week or so. I doubt its low T or anything medically related.
Sounds like you just got into this hobby and going too fast thus the burn out.
Maybe instead of doing 2-3 a week sessions, do recons instead to build it up until you do a weekly or bi-monthly monger sesh. Once you've been into this hobby for a couple of years it will definitely get boring but there will always be a new hottie or two that comes every now and then.
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.Brother H, if you've got 30. 40 G's to blow, why not try going to Vegas or better yet, Thailand, Korea or the PI. New experiences are always a great thing.
Go to Phuket Thailand, at Patong area. Tons of fun to be had there.
Brother H, if you've got 30. 40 G's to blow, why not try going to Vegas or better yet, Thailand, Korea or the PI. New experiences are always a great thing.
Alohashorts
10-16-12, 05:28
Have any of you bros ever got bored or disinterested during mongering sessions? Recently, I have been going through the motions and feel bored during many of the mongering sessions. I am spacing out at least 2 to 3 days between sessions and also do not jerk off anymore, to have something in the reservoir, but still having lackluster sessions. Is low T something I should be concerned about or talk to my doc about? Any info would be appreciated, as I have been going to the gym more and getting into better shape, but it is not helping as I thought it would.Yeah, I've been bored a few times. Now I've never gone nearly as much as you, but there was a time when I would go to the AMPs at least three times in a month. Thats when I first discovered this new world. Now days, I go maybe once every other month. Anyways, I got bored because it became routine. You know, knock on the door, pay the hf, lame massage, then F. No challenge. I then started changing it up. Going to so called legit massages and trying to get HJ's. It's a hit or miss game with legits, but that's the challenge that made it fun. You hone your charm skills to see how far you can get. Going to massage places that were off of the beaten path would also bring excitement. Haven't hit the street yet, but it has intrigued me. So change it up. If I had your resources, I would go just as much. Can't fault you for that. I would just check out different stuff.
Yup. Sometimes I spend $400 or $600 in one day depending if I get a dud. The boredom is caused by the condom. I get really bored if I get a girl twice (unless its bareback).
Playboy5.
If its a condom, I won't repeat.
My Craigslist girl is off island. I went to Tokyo Spa. In walks Eva. I explained if service is covered. I just want a BJ for $100. She said its the same price for BJ or FS. $150. So I just got to deal with the condom. I said no happening. $100 for BJ that's it. She said no. I starting get dressed. She then promised great BBBJ for $150. I said no deal. I got dressed and got my house fee back. Best thing. I saved $200.
Playboy54.
If its covered, just a BJ for $100. If its a covered BJ, never repeat.
My Craigslist girl is off island. I went to Tokyo Spa. In walks Eva. I explained if service is covered. I just want a BJ for $100. She said its the same price for BJ or FS. $150. So I just got to deal with the condom. I said no happening. $100 for BJ that's it. She said no. I starting get dressed. She then promised great BBBJ for $150. I said no deal. I got dressed and got my house fee back. Best thing. I saved $200.
Playboy54.
If its covered, just a BJ for $100. If its a covered BJ, never repeat.Never understood why you would go through and complain about providers when you knew they would give covered service and its not to your liking. At least this time you had the smarts to walk. Not sure about now but before Eva would give BBBJ with covered service. But if I remember correctly she would do that stupid water trick with her BBBJ which is pretty much the same as covered.
Never understood why you would go through and complain about providers when you knew they would give covered service and its not to your liking.Most customers wouldn't go into an AMP expecting a young provider to just offer BBFS or BBBJ. She could care less if you got BBFS / BBBJ from other providers. Besides, why would she just offer that when she has many other customers that will see her. She doesn't need your money. Besides, your 100 or 200 bucks is just 1 among her many.
Yes. She claimed she would give a great BBBJ. But it would be $150, not $100. So paying $50/150 total for an alleged BBBJ is not worth it, especially because she is older (30 plus). I start the conversation. Is FS covered. If they say YES, I say never mind, lets just do a BJ then for $100. The client should decide what they want to pay for. Just tell the provider up front. Not paying for covered. So lets go BBBJ. If they refuse that, just go to another AMP. I am glad you said she gives a fake BBBJ, so I know she was a liar and I saved $200 plus thousands by never going back. There are a few great girls that go BBFS, it's disrespectful to them to pay the same price to another provider for all covered.
Playboy54. Just pay for BBBJ unless BBFS is available.
The men make the rules.
Most customers wouldn't go into an AMP expecting a young provider to just offer BBFS or BBBJ. She could care less if you got BBFS / BBBJ from other providers. Besides, why would she just offer that when she has many other customers that will see her. She doesn't need your money. Besides, your 100 or 200 bucks is just 1 among her many.True, but thats just the price PB will have to pay for having such a standard. All this time he went into situations where I think he knew the outcome wasn't going to be great but dove into it anyway. As a result writing enless negative reports. Maybe during the moment his other head was thinking, but this time he finally listens to his bigger head. I'm sure thinking with the smaller head is a problem people on the forums and beyond have.
Hilifter37
10-24-12, 10:08
Just pay for BBBJ unless BBFS is available.I would if I can pop with BBBJ, but I can't. Same with HJ / HE, I never go to MT because I can't pop that way also. Only during FS, both covered and bb, lets me pop. However, I respect you asking about services and walking out if that is not what you are seeking, rather than stay and post more negative reviews of girls you know that will not satisfy you.
Howzit bros. After reading the replys to the bored post, I think you guys gave great suggestions and I'm sure the answer is in there somewhere or a combination of some. Here's my 2 cents. When I was younger (20s & 30s) , I got to experience MANY sessions (mostly soaps) in asia, most was free because was hosted by locals. I was a kid in the candy store so to speak. Sometimes I would have 3 girls a day for 4 or 5 days straight. Needless to say, altho was great girls and experiences, got tired kinda quick even tho the chicks were top tier quality. I actually had more fun hunting civilians somehow and was easy back then for me as I was young. I think having balance in your life is good because no matter how good something is, you WILL get tired of it if too much. Also, while you young guys still can, try civilians sometimes because when you get older, you going wish you did it more. Eh, Uki, that means you, LOL.
Howzit bros. After reading the replys to the bored post, I think you guys gave great suggestions and I'm sure the answer is in there somewhere or a combination of some. Here's my 2 cents. When I was younger (20s & 30s) , I got to experience MANY sessions (mostly soaps) in asia, most was free because was hosted by locals. I was a kid in the candy store so to speak. Sometimes I would have 3 girls a day for 4 or 5 days straight. Needless to say, altho was great girls and experiences, got tired kinda quick even tho the chicks were top tier quality. I actually had more fun hunting civilians somehow and was easy back then for me as I was young. I think having balance in your life is good because no matter how good something is, you WILL get tired of it if too much. Also, while you young guys still can, try civilians sometimes because when you get older, you going wish you did it more. Eh, Uki, that means you, LOL.Heh, I know Oldee that you may think I go AMP alot because you see new reports in AMP threads with my SN posted by Uki. You assume based on how much I'm writing that I am spending plenny money going AMP but, nah not really. In fact, I don't go as much as others on this forum. You don't see me posting lots of reports of me doing providers from Mayflower, Sunflower, Ginza, Rappongi, Seven, Ichiban, VIP, escorts on backpage etc. There's a number of other providers I haven't done on the bucket list. I don't even have a bucket list to follow. I haven't even been to the new Mayflower or Sunflower at CC yet. I'm just chiming in info here and there on how the girls look based on what I seen when I pass by and which girls are there or have left when talking to the MS on recons. I PM other member online and they PM me. That's mainly it. There were a time couple of months ago where I was going more often but, it minimized now. Now it's like once every 2 weeks kinda thing. Heh, not no 2-3 times a week like some others do.
As far as hunting civilians and guys who younger etc, yah I know what you're thinking and trying to say. If a guy is younger he should hunt civilians where no need P4P and spend. Take advantage of your youth while you still have it. Yeah that's true and others thinking that to but, if you remember what YG365 posted before on why younger guys go AMPs, sometimes we just don't want to deal with the drama of the girls getting clingy and emotional. I'm sure guys who have FTF / FWB have encountered this. At the moment, the girl may say it's just a fling etc and nothing serious but, in time she gets clingy as me and my friends have dealt with girls we've done as friends who got clingy even though they said beforehand that it was just for fun and nothing serious. Even in foreign countries where we meet up with civilian girls got clingy to where we had to cut them loose.
I think Oldee you feel that if you were in a younger persons position, you'd be like.
"If I was young like him, I'd be doing this, this, this"
I only said the last part about you because I wanted to read your reply, LOL. I didn't really mean you specifically, hehe. After all, You ARE tall, dark and handsome, LOL. Yup guys, Ukister one stud that I seen so myself. Anyhow bro, you should start more topics on this thread since you the daddy. Might take some tension and attention off the tense mood on the forum recenty.
I only said the last part about you because I wanted to read your reply, LOL. I didn't really mean you specifically, hehe. After all, You ARE tall, dark and handsome, LOL. Yup guys, Ukister one stud that I seen so myself. Anyhow bro, you should start more topics on this thread since you the daddy.I'm offended man. Sigh. The Sunglasses, FN shirt and now this. That's why I no go FMs.
HaJames007
11-13-12, 14:43
Do any of the AMP's have Facebook and / or twitter? I would like to contact Nara and Aki from Roses, I have never been to a AMP, so I wish I could preview them.
HaJames007
11-16-12, 04:26
Do AMP's accept credit cards? If so where?
WraithOfGod
11-16-12, 12:28
Do any of the AMP's have Facebook and / or twitter? I would like to contact Nara and Aki from Roses, I have never been to a AMP, so I wish I could preview them.I posted pictures of Aki a while back. And the BP ad pics are pretty accurate. As for FB and Twitter, no way, though some have their own website (albeit, not with pictures of the providers). Oh, and don't give an AMP your credit card, dude. That's just asking for trouble. I've never asked, so I don't know of any places that accept cards, but that's a good way to get a massive bill that you didn't expect. It'd be like opening a tab with a KBG with whom you're hitting it off. Imagine explaining that excess charge to someone. You seem pretty green, my friend, so you might want to spend some time reading the threads before venturing out.
Let us know if we can help!
HaJames007
11-16-12, 21:42
I posted pictures of Aki a while back. And the BP ad pics are pretty accurate. As for FB and Twitter, no way, though some have their own website (albeit, not with pictures of the providers). Oh, and don't give an AMP your credit card, dude. That's just asking for trouble. I've never asked, so I don't know of any places that accept cards, but that's a good way to get a massive bill that you didn't expect. It'd be like opening a tab with a KBG with whom you're hitting it off. Imagine explaining that excess charge to someone. You seem pretty green, my friend, so you might want to spend some time reading the threads before venturing out.
Let us know if we can help!Thanks. I appreciate the info.
HaJames007
11-19-12, 13:43
Who should be my first Asian Massage Girl? Are there any girls at AMP's that look like Jessica Bangkok? I like girls that look like Jessica Bangkok.
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HaJames007
11-19-12, 14:42
I have never been to an AMP, anybody want to show me the ropes and come with me to an AMP. DO AMP allow gang bang? I would like a group sex.
HaJames007
11-20-12, 00:33
I did Nara today, it was super.
WraithOfGod
11-20-12, 05:01
I have never been to an AMP, anybody want to show me the ropes and come with me to an AMP. DO AMP allow gang bang? I would like a group sex.Most AMPs do not allow group sex to customers with which they're unfamiliar. You can get threesomes at some places, though, for double the HF and tip.
I have never been to an AMP, anybody want to show me the ropes and come with me to an AMP. DO AMP allow gang bang? I would like a group sex.I'm not sure what you mean, if you are talking about a whole gangbang like a porn movie then good luck with that, be better off looking for backpage or escorts for that thing. If you are talking about three ways with you, your buddy and the girl. Once again good luck with that. Some of the girls are willing to bring a friend on for fun from what I heard, haven't done it here. In Vegas I had one girl asked me if I wanted the new girl to join us so I agree but all she did was tease me and a HJ.
Do AMP's accept credit cards? If so where?Some of them do I know Vegas does, I don't know any around here typically the business has to pay for each transaction so most of them don't allow it, plus they and you don't want any transaction that can be traced back. So most will only take cash or either have a ATM within or nearby beside it is easy for mama to pay the girls or take the fee if they have cash.
Hilifter37
11-20-12, 17:29
I'm not sure what you mean, if you are talking about a whole gangbang like a porn movie then good luck with that, be better off looking for backpage or escorts for that thing. If you are talking about three ways with you, your buddy and the girl. Once again good luck with that. Some of the girls are willing to bring a friend on for fun from what I heard, haven't done it here. In Vegas I had one girl asked me if I wanted the new girl to join us so I agree but all she did was tease me and a HJ.Didn't JBravo mention that Million and / or Jio like to do 2 guys at once in his posts? I was not sure if he was kidding or serious.
Most AMPs do not allow group sex to customers with which they're unfamiliar. You can get threesomes at some places, though, for double the HF and tip.Back when the superstar Miki of Imperials left and went to Smile, she was nearly begging for me to bring a friend. She said she wanted a threesome very badly. She asked me this multiple times and more than once during a single session. Unfortunately I had only one friend that this would even be a possibility with. But, he was in a precarious place in his marriage and having "side fun" was risky since his wife was on the lookout. Wrong timing! Anyway, This is the only time I've ever had a possibility of B / B/G anywhere. Of course, the B / G/G is more common, especially in the Philippines where I've had it 80% of the time!
WraithOfGod
11-21-12, 04:30
Alright, since we're talking about group sex and threesomes, here's a question: If you could have a threeway with any two providers, who would you choose?
Yo,
Been doing this a long time, and I did 2 hoes at AMP-Junko and Coco on Atkinson, and Realtor hoes Regina (YunHee) and Sophia at CHM. Horny hoes these were, and BBBJ by all-the hoes were into each other and did some kissing but no pussy licking. CFS, and no changing of covers which wuz nice, so could go from pussy to pussy, LOL.
Recents-Sky / Apple will do you with anotha hoe, Jio will, and the Million wanted to do it with Julie / Jackie but dunno if she like any of the VIP hoes.
Did couple escorts too-only once did the hoes dig each other and did pussy eating, which was one turn on-PSE baby. One hoe like me hit her face with my dik too, was pretty kinky I guess.
I'm sure it happens, it does cost double, tho I did negotiate house fee down.
I'd do it again, but only if the hoes dig each other and will eat pussy and DFK. Fantasy would be Jio and Million at the same time-BBBJ and bbjs-das why its fantasy, LOL.
BTW, I did see dem hoes at least 3x before they offered. And I had many offers from other hoes at AMPs, and still do. Even the Viv said she will do it with anotha hoe, but she has to select one she like to eat.
YMMV too. I fuk too many hoes too many times so it happens. Many of dem hoes luv sex-luv it-and want 2 diks in them. More hoes than you think.
Even the Sploogies Candy-not the real Sevens one-but the hidden one by the Duk-that Candy like 2 diks. Report if you kids fuk her group style-she luv hard fuks.
Didn't JBravo mention that Million and / or Jio like to do 2 guys at once in his posts? I was not sure if he was kidding or serious.
Alright, since we're talking about group sex and threesomes, here's a question: If you could have a threeway with any two providers, who would you choose?First choice: Joy of Nirvana and Aki of Rose, clearly the two best attitudes in the business right now.
Second choice: Kelly and Julie of Ichiban, little bit older girls here but still fine by my standards.
Third choice: for the MILF crowd: Viet Lily (when she comes back as she always does) and Didi of GM. Imagine Didi deep rimming your ass, while you are doing BBFSCIP to Viet Lily. Awesome sauce.
AtletaTigre
12-04-12, 15:04
Only tried Joy once but the thought of sharing her sounds like great fun! Haven't tried Aki but may have to sample some soon. Anybody else at Nirvana I could convince Joy to share with?
My only 3some mongering was a huge disappointment (Ebony & Star on BP). Would be willing to try again with the right mix, but who knows if it will be worth it.
So which hoe's want 2 diks in them? I'm definitely down for that if I could find a partner in crime. Used to run with a group in SoCal that specialized in gangbangs and had my share of MFMs with couples I met via an assortment of ways (lifestyle parties, online, etc.). Still a huge fan as long as it's all about the woman (I. E. I'm STRAIGHT). Ok with some incidental contact but not OK with anything beyond that. Anybody else game PM me and maybe we can hook something up with one of these ladies.
Aloha!
Yo,
Been doing this a long time, and I did 2 hoes at AMP-Junko and Coco on Atkinson, and Realtor hoes Regina (YunHee) and Sophia at CHM. Horny hoes these were, and BBBJ by all-the hoes were into each other and did some kissing but no pussy licking. CFS, and no changing of covers which wuz nice, so could go from pussy to pussy, LOL.
Recents-Sky / Apple will do you with anotha hoe, Jio will, and the Million wanted to do it with Julie / Jackie but dunno if she like any of the VIP hoes.
Did couple escorts too-only once did the hoes dig each other and did pussy eating, which was one turn on-PSE baby. One hoe like me hit her face with my dik too, was pretty kinky I guess.
I'm sure it happens, it does cost double, tho I did negotiate house fee down.
I'd do it again, but only if the hoes dig each other and will eat pussy and DFK. Fantasy would be Jio and Million at the same time-BBBJ and bbjs-das why its fantasy, LOL.
BTW, I did see dem hoes at least 3x before they offered. And I had many offers from other hoes at AMPs, and still do. Even the Viv said she will do it with anotha hoe, but she has to select one she like to eat.
YMMV too. I fuk too many hoes too many times so it happens. Many of dem hoes luv sex-luv it-and want 2 diks in them. More hoes than you think.
Even the Sploogies Candy-not the real Sevens one-but the hidden one by the Duk-that Candy like 2 diks. Report if you kids fuk her group style-she luv hard fuks.
If you could have a threeway with any two providers, who would you choose?Shia (Ginza) and Jio (GQ). I think their close friendship would enhance the session. Seeing them DFK each other would send me overboard. Then the pussy-stack in K9 if they would allow it. Followed by some Jio compass twirls while LK and breast play with Shia. Finish off with flirting, laughing, talking. I need a timeout LOL.
Thanks Wraith for that list. Didn't know some of those places even existed.
Or a Big Boob Dream Team of Nara (Rose) and Pie (MF) and Judy (MF) as reserve.
Alright, since we're talking about group sex and threesomes, here's a question: If you could have a threeway with any two providers, who would you choose?That's a tough one. Joy and June, who contrast in types of service (PSE and GFE) BUT are about the same level quirky. June would have to keep her boots on to enhance the session. Or Nara and Aki. Shit, I think I would just get off watching these two DFK queens go at it at each other.
Only tried Joy once but the thought of sharing her sounds like great fun! Haven't tried Aki but may have to sample some soon. Anybody else at Nirvana I could convince Joy to share with?
My only 3some mongering was a huge disappointment (Ebony & Star on BP). Would be willing to try again with the right mix, but who knows if it will be worth it.
So which hoe's want 2 diks in them? I'm definitely down for that if I could find a partner in crime. Used to run with a group in SoCal that specialized in gangbangs and had my share of MFMs with couples I met via an assortment of ways (lifestyle parties, online, etc.). Still a huge fan as long as it's all about the woman (I. E. I'm STRAIGHT). Ok with some incidental contact but not OK with anything beyond that. Anybody else game PM me and maybe we can hook something up with one of these ladies.
Aloha!Good luck with that, Joy doesn't like girls so I doubt that she would want anyone from Nirvana or any where else
HaJames007
12-13-12, 01:42
Anybody has a picture of Hana at Swan Spa?
InnoniniSatan
12-14-12, 06:29
I'd love to do Bella BP and Naomi heaven. But if they must be AMP girls it would be aki Nd hyori aka Judy.
Alright, since we're talking about group sex and threesomes, here's a question: If you could have a threeway with any two providers, who would you choose?Million calling the shots and telling us where to position our bodies. Joy making faces and acting super turned on. Thinking of those two tanned bodies getting it on and DFK three way, I cumming already.
SilverTurbo
01-12-13, 20:21
Anybody knows how I can earn money to go to AMP' s?
Anybody knows how I can earn money to go to AMP' s?If you find one that doesn't require 20-40 hours a week of my time please let me know ASAP.
Thank you for the help.
If you find one that doesn't require 20-40 hours a week of my time please let me know ASAP.
Thank you for the help.Me too please LOL
Anybody knows how I can earn money to go to AMP' s?You will never get "ahead" in this hobby using "job money". Most of these girls make way more an hour than most employees. So you have to have an income source that produces more than $200 an hour on average. Unless you are a doctor / lawyer or other professional type then most people will never make that amount of money per hour. And if you get addicted then eventually you will spend all your money and have nothing left. The only way I have found to produce the kind of money I need for this expensive hobby is through trading. And no I don't mean by doing it the way the public does it. If you are properly schooled and experienced and extremely disciplined you can easily make over $200 an hour almost everyday even after considering losses. But therein lies the problem, most people do not have any discipline! Of course this is just a suggestion since you asked how you can earn extra money. Once again YMMV.
Idusixtyning
01-14-13, 01:37
You will never get "ahead" in this hobby using "job money". Most of these girls make way more an hour than most employees. So you have to have an income source that produces more than $200 an hour on average. Unless you are a doctor / lawyer or other professional type then most people will never make that amount of money per hour. And if you get addicted then eventually you will spend all your money and have nothing left. The only way I have found to produce the kind of money I need for this expensive hobby is through trading. And no I don't mean by doing it the way the public does it. If you are properly schooled and experienced and extremely disciplined you can easily make over $200 an hour almost everyday even after considering losses. But therein lies the problem, most people do not have any discipline! Of course this is just a suggestion since you asked how you can earn extra money. Once again YMMV.Mipene, ever try adding up all the money you spent? In the end, it is still a lot less money for pussy than getting married and then divorced.
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Mipene, ever try adding up all the money you spent? In the end, it is still a lot less money for pussy than getting married and then divorced.No way man, I gave up trying to keep track of the money I spent many years ago. All I know is that I was making money trading just as fast as I was spending it during my most active years in mongering from 1998-2008. After 2008 I just kind of lost interest in the whole AMP thing. You guys will get there, trust me. I still go maybe once or twice a month but like any hobby it just got old and boring. When you become older you look for other more meaningful types of relationships in life. Sex while wonderful is not everything. After a while you want a woman with a "brain" that you can actually have a intelligent conversation with. Women who work at AMPs' usually don't come equipped with a brain.
But yea I agree marriage would suck. I have never been married. Thank God.
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No way man, I gave up trying to keep track of the money I spent many years ago. All I know is that I was making money trading just as fast as I was spending it during my most active years in mongering from 1998-2008. After 2008 I just kind of lost interest in the whole AMP thing. You guys will get there, trust me. I still go maybe once or twice a month but like any hobby it just got old and boring. When you become older you look for other more meaningful types of relationships in life. Sex while wonderful is not everything. After a while you want a woman with a "brain" that you can actually have a intelligent conversation with. Women who work at AMPs' usually don't come equipped with a brain.
But yea I agree marriage would suck. I have never been married. Thank God.I would disagree with you on the brain part. The Korean and Chinese women come from a Confucian education system that requires a level of discipline and rigor that Westerners could begin to understand. Beginning in grade school. Whatever character defect they may have, if it were character defect that has led her to be part of this business, it would not be lack of intelligence via lack of education, even if she is not college educated. You cannot carry on conversation really due to language and cultural barriers.
Loveasianhi
01-14-13, 04:01
No way man, I gave up trying to keep track of the money I spent many years ago. All I know is that I was making money trading just as fast as I was spending it during my most active years in mongering from 1998-2008. After 2008 I just kind of lost interest in the whole AMP thing. You guys will get there, trust me. I still go maybe once or twice a month but like any hobby it just got old and boring. When you become older you look for other more meaningful types of relationships in life. Sex while wonderful is not everything. After a while you want a woman with a "brain" that you can actually have a intelligent conversation with. Women who work at AMPs' usually don't come equipped with a brain.
But yea I agree marriage would suck. I have never been married. Thank God.atMipene 77. I want to learn trading from you so I can monger more. Now you making me think if I ever had a brainy provider.
Mipene, ever try adding up all the money you spent? In the end, it is still a lot less money for pussy than getting married and then divorced.Not true. I was married for 15 years and got divorced but I wasn't raked over the coals. I owned one of my homes already before we met and she is very successful in her occupation (MD) so the financial issue was never a concern. Mongering is the most money I have ever spent in my life getting "pussy." I do it out of the convenience not the monetary gain. When I moved to Oahu I couldn't figure out why guys couldn't find a GF when they are overflowing all over. But I realized that most of them were money hungry or horny. Guess I got to hook up with the horny ones. Learn how to protect your assets and don't get lured into their trap. Just enjoy the ride. Simpler said than done.
Million calling the shots and telling us where to position our bodies. Joy making faces and acting super turned on. Thinking of those two tanned bodies getting it on and DFK three way, I cumming already.For now, I will have to HAVE Julie / ichiban and Chanell / seven. I would live to include Million but she no take order from nobody. LOL.
Then on the other hand, Julie and Seven / TS mama. Yes, that'll do.
Wait, hummm. Damn, I wish Sindi / now retired with Emily / GB. Sindi is one fuken Hawt to trot and Emily. She is very accommodating hehe all the way till I come.
Shit, getting horny and only SO next to me. What the hell, I 'll just do her for now. One thing for sure, BB all the way. LOL
I would disagree with you on the brain part. The Korean and Chinese women come from a Confucian education system that requires a level of discipline and rigor that Westerners could begin to understand. Beginning in grade school. Whatever character defect they may have, if it were character defect that has led her to be part of this business, it would not be lack of intelligence via lack of education, even if she is not college educated. You cannot carry on conversation really due to language and cultural barriers.Yea I would agree. At least with the women that I have met at AMP's that has been the case. I guess it might be due to the fact that they don't know a lot about the subjects that I want to talk about. But heck they may think I don't have a brain for being at the AMP! No, I luv them, they are good girls. Some of them are actually pretty smart. Especially if they save the money they earn and invest it wisely. But their are a lot of not so smart ones also that blow it all and are forced to stay in the business well past their prime. But where would we be without these girls? Just think about it we would actually have to have sex with our wives! Yikes.
I would disagree with you on the brain part. The Korean and Chinese women come from a Confucian education system that requires a level of discipline and rigor that Westerners could begin to understand. Beginning in grade school. Whatever character defect they may have, if it were character defect that has led her to be part of this business, it would not be lack of intelligence via lack of education, even if she is not college educated. You cannot carry on conversation really due to language and cultural barriers.First off confucious education is a Chinese thing not korean. Second you don't need a college education to carry a conversation. Out of all orientals south koreans would probably come closest to american culturally. Lot of differences but also lot of similarities unlike other cultures that are apples and oranges. Why do you think a lot come to the states? Its not like south korea is a 3rd world country. On the otherhand though I don't speak from an american culture perspective so might be easier for me to see.
No way man, I gave up trying to keep track of the money I spent many years ago. All I know is that I was making money trading just as fast as I was spending it during my most active years in mongering from 1998-2008. After 2008 I just kind of lost interest in the whole AMP thing. You guys will get there, trust me. I still go maybe once or twice a month but like any hobby it just got old and boring. When you become older you look for other more meaningful types of relationships in life. Sex while wonderful is not everything. After a while you want a woman with a "brain" that you can actually have a intelligent conversation with. Women who work at AMPs' usually don't come equipped with a brain.
But yea I agree marriage would suck. I have never been married. Thank God.I bet all the duds the past few years played a factor for you. It did for me, so for the past few years my visits decreased to maybe once a month.
I bet all the duds the past few years played a factor for you. It did for me, so for the past few years my visits decreased to maybe once a month.I would not specifically say that all the girls in the last few years have all been duds. I still enjoy girls such as Julie and Kelly from Ichiban. I would say that in general (and this is just my opinion) the girls don't seem as willing or as "hungry" as the girls were during the years of 1998-2008. I don't know maybe it is just me. I will say this, extras were a lot easier to get back then. Sure I still get extras now. But it just seemed like it was a lot more common before.
Hilifter37
01-14-13, 17:53
It would not be lack of intelligence via lack of education, even if she is not college educated. You cannot carry on conversation really due to language and cultural barriers.Exactly. It is very difficult for me to communicate with providers who don't speak English or Korean. Like bro Mipene mentioned, sometimes you want to go to AMPs for more than just fucking. It is nice to talk and have a real conversation with them (sometimes). That's one of the reasons I really liked Kathy (GQ). I talked her ear off, just as she did to me, good times. I only wished the sex part was better, because if it was, she would be my new ATF. Also, I like seeing Korean AMP girls because I like to practice my Korean that I learned at UH. Now, as to how much of what they tell me is the truth or not IHDK. But it is nice to have more than one dimensional experience at AMPs.
First off confucious education is a Chinese thing not korean. Second you don't need a college education to carry a conversation. Out of all orientals south koreans would probably come closest to american culturally. Lot of differences but also lot of similarities unlike other cultures that are apples and oranges. Why do you think a lot come to the states? Its not like south korea is a 3rd world country. On the otherhand though I don't speak from an american culture perspective so might be easier for me to see.Whatever non-American perspective you come from, it is certainly not from Northeast Asia. Confucian notions of the family, the individual with respect to the state, the education system permeate not just China, but Korea and Japan as well. Modernization and infatuation with American culture will not change any of that. As I said the barriers to communication are language and culture, not lack of brains or education.
Whatever non-American perspective you come from, it is certainly not from Northeast Asia. Confucian notions of the family, the individual with respect to the state, the education system permeate not just China, but Korea and Japan as well. Modernization and infatuation with American culture will not change any of that. As I said the barriers to communication are language and culture, not lack of brains or education.You do know a lot of these girls move away from their origins to get away from their tradutional beliefs. As a matter of fact 90% of them have already lived in the states prior to the AMP business. Most of the heavy influenced ones are from NY. Why are they in the biz? Because most have major personal issues such as gambling, marriage, children, etc. Totally not the as you would say the confucious way for a woman on dealing with it. I suppose when comparing their stupidness to western stupidness, they will look smart. Sounds like you learn things from books and other sources as opposed to experience. It would appear their would be a cultural clash with you just with people from the mainland. Personally I don't have problems talking to these girls, but based off of conversations and decisions in public its clear they lack judgement.
I would not specifically say that all the girls in the last few years have all been duds. I still enjoy girls such as Julie and Kelly from Ichiban. I would say that in general (and this is just my opinion) the girls don't seem as willing or as "hungry" as the girls were during the years of 1998-2008. I don't know maybe it is just me. I will say this, extras were a lot easier to get back then. Sure I still get extras now. But it just seemed like it was a lot more common before.Yeah I wouldn't say they are all duds. It just seems you have to be more weary these days of them. Before it wad very rare to get find one, now its seems 50/50 if you go in and get a random girl.
SilverTurbo
01-19-13, 01:11
How come there is no Ambrosia Spa Thread?
How come there is no AMBROSIA SPA Thread?Nobody goes there? I have not seen one report on Ambrosia. And its been in business for 2-3 years already.
WraithOfGod
01-19-13, 19:28
Nobody goes there? I have not seen one report on Ambrosia. And its been in business for 2-3 years already.There have been lots of reports about Ambrosia, actually, scattered all over the place. But it's not a hot spot, so it doesn't need a standalone thread.
There have been lots of reports about Ambrosia, actually, scattered all over the place. But it's not a hot spot, so it doesn't need a standalone thread.I don't recall seeing those reports. Thanks for setting me straight WOG. I've been to the CC many, many times and, while waiting in the elevator lobby, I have never seen a customer enter or exit Ambrosia.
Atmatic123
01-20-13, 06:27
I would not specifically say that all the girls in the last few years have all been duds. I still enjoy girls such as Julie and Kelly from Ichiban. I would say that in general (and this is just my opinion) the girls don't seem as willing or as "hungry" as the girls were during the years of 1998-2008. I don't know maybe it is just me. I will say this, extras were a lot easier to get back then. Sure I still get extras now. But it just seemed like it was a lot more common before.I started mongering in 2006 and I never new of this forum and I would only go about 3x a yr, but from what I saw from about 2006-2008 it seemed that there was more hotties around that gave good service. Now it really is hard! Think about all the providers and the allstars are so few, Nara, Aki, Chanelle (who is gone) , Million and Julie (whom both I don't consider allstars because of the YMMV status and I had bad experiences with both but seem to be the 2 best avail based on the majority) , and a few others that is slim pickings to me. Unless there are hidden gems out there that mongers are withholding. But still can't complain from other reports we got it pretty damn good here compared to other states.
TropicalSex
01-21-13, 07:42
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No way man, I gave up trying to keep track of the money I spent many years ago. All I know is that I was making money trading just as fast as I was spending it during my most active years in mongering from 1998-2008. After 2008 I just kind of lost interest in the whole AMP thing. You guys will get there, trust me. I still go maybe once or twice a month but like any hobby it just got old and boring. When you become older you look for other more meaningful types of relationships in life. Sex while wonderful is not everything. After a while you want a woman with a "brain" that you can actually have a intelligent conversation with. Women who work at AMPs' usually don't come equipped with a brain.
But yea I agree marriage would suck. I have never been married. Thank God.Some of my PMs and posts in the past has addressed my play. Even with having some sort of regular work in Waiks, travels, behind the bar, etc, it was really trading diff. Formats that allowed me to play the way I have.
In the war of the roses days (when I was married to a high up official, who now works for the Popos) I played choke because of like my days on the football and baseball fields. Why I led later in my life to BJJ (retired bc of a bad shoulder & knee injury) for the Rush. My 1st time of mongering was back in the early 80s when I was young and full of testoz. Crazy, if not in the clubs of Bobbys, Point, Bully Hayes, went a knocking on WSW, or dt, or indies, or the early days of the relaxations hales. I was fortunate to already be trading, but really more buy and hold, until a friend showed me in the 90s on the ways of options. Wow! Lucky to have a home, prop, kids with a great education, toys, and of course, letting Akua run loose! Cannot say how much kala$ was spent, but back in 2009-2010, my friend and I over a bottle of Crown tried to figure it out. Possible low to mid 5 figures, to I think in the mid 2000s I probably did a enough to buy a Cherry Vette in cash$. Really. All trading!
Granted at times I do think about the kala, but it is what it is, good times, not only in Hawaii, but Asia, SF, and other parts of the US. Man one crazy story about meeting a creole diva in N. O. During Mardi Gras, insane, paid some good $, but later we just hung out, and she just wanted someone to cruise with during Mardi Gras. Plus I guessing she got to stay at my hotel, eat, and paina, just as good as mongering or bringing an SO without the monku monku.
I trade more steady now, no off the wall, and hold on tight. Older now, but still want some Nani from Julie or Coco, but that is just me.
Good life good times, enough said.
Loveasianhi
01-22-13, 00:14
I don't recall seeing those reports. Thanks for setting me straight WOG. I've been to the CC many, many times and, while waiting in the elevator lobby, I have never seen a customer enter or exit Ambrosia.Went and took a look, had Yuki only, too old for me, korean, looks like over 50, 5'0", manmade cee or dee, lots of makeup, nothing like the photo in the ad. I asked if had Pink or other ladies, she said they out so I left and didn't partake.
Atmatic123
01-22-13, 00:35
Figured I move this topic here since it was starting up on another board. So seems like 2013 will mark the loss of Julie (ichiban) and MIllion (VIP) damn that is a loss if its true. Hell Julie is a MIA again and who knows if she's coming back. Damn those are some real fine hotties prob the hottest I've seen along with Honey (ginza). I mean both Milion and Julie treated me like crap! But they are still fine and seems like they treat all the other mongers on here pretty good, damn if only I got the same service that they give other mongers I would be sad right now hearing that they may be gone soon. Hopefully other hotties pop up to make up for the loss but seems like everything is going downhill over the years.
Wldcat1969
03-08-13, 02:23
I took some time off work next week so will finally have a chance to try some day mongering while SO is at work. Really want to try one of the AMP's because I've spent some time in Korea and have always wanted to try a Korean woman. Any suggestions on a good day location with Korean women (and preferably a Korean MS)?
My question though, is once I negotiate a price, do I tip on top of that? Or do I negotiate a total price? And even though this is the AMP thread, does the same apply to an escort? If the price is listed as $$.5 per hour do I add my tip to that? Just don't want to come off as a schmuck if I'm expected to tip but don't!
I took some time off work next week so will finally have a chance to try some day mongering while SO is at work. Really want to try one of the AMP's because I've spent some time in Korea and have always wanted to try a Korean woman. Any suggestions on a good day location with Korean women (and preferably a Korean MS)?
My question though, is once I negotiate a price, do I tip on top of that? Or do I negotiate a total price? And even though this is the AMP thread, does the same apply to an escort? If the price is listed as $$.5 per hour do I add my tip to that? Just don't want to come off as a schmuck if I'm expected to tip but don't!Do not, I repeat, do not ever negotiate price. That could lead to unwanted consequences by an undercover. I highly doubt that there are undercover girls working in the AMP's here but you never know. Better safe than sorry. As far as tips go, around here the "standard tip" for standard service is usually $150 for the girl and $40 to $50 for the house fee. Of course you are welcome to tip extra to the girl if you feel like it. But I would not do that unless she provides what you think is outstanding service. Be careful about tipping too much over the standard rate because you will be forever scorned on this forum and also seen as a sucker / loverboy by the girls. A good day location is Kison or Rose. I personally prefer Rose because the girls are younger and prettier. But JMO. And finally the most important rule to remember is NEVER EVER tip upfront! Always pay after the service in an AMP. As far as escorts go you will have to look elsewhere for advice as I don't use escorts. Maybe someone else on the forum can help you on escorts.
Good luck
Wldcat1969
03-09-13, 01:39
Do not, I repeat, do not ever negotiate price. That could lead to unwanted consequences by an undercover. I highly doubt that there are undercover girls working in the AMP's here but you never know. Better safe than sorry. As far as tips go, around here the "standard tip" for standard service is usually $150 for the girl and $40 to $50 for the house fee. Of course you are welcome to tip extra to the girl if you feel like it. But I would not do that unless she provides what you think is outstanding service. Be careful about tipping too much over the standard rate because you will be forever scorned on this forum and also seen as a sucker / loverboy by the girls. A good day location is Kison or Rose. I personally prefer Rose because the girls are younger and prettier. But JMO. And finally the most important rule to remember is NEVER EVER tip upfront! Always pay after the service in an AMP. As far as escorts go you will have to look elsewhere for advice as I don't use escorts. Maybe someone else on the forum can help you on escorts.Hmmm. Maybe I didn't read the first timers guide close enough then. I thought it went something like this: you decide on a girl, then pay MS the house fee before you go in the room. Then sometime thereafter (after a brief massage maybe?) the girl will ask what you want. I thought it was at that time that you would negotiate a price for whatever service you wanted. But you're saying I would instead just say what I want and then give the standard tip at the end?
Hmmm. Maybe I didn't read the first timers guide close enough then. I thought it went something like this: you decide on a girl, then pay MS the house fee before you go in the room. Then sometime thereafter (after a brief massage maybe?) the girl will ask what you want. I thought it was at that time that you would negotiate a price for whatever service you wanted. But you're saying I would instead just say what I want and then give the standard tip at the end?A few corrections:
I usually tell Mama who I want while walking to the room. After she confirms the girl is available and you are in the room, then pay Mama the $50. As for the service, I haven't had a provider ask me what I wanted in ages. Usually they can read your body language and know what you came there for. The best advice is to act like you've been there before and don't leave things up in the air. Take charge as soon as the service starts. If she massages you for too long, turn over on your own and start caressing her or go in for the kiss. That'll get the ball rollin'.
Tips are $150 to the girl standard. Do not let her talk you into more unless she a) gave you anal sex, or be) gave you a second pop and had you agree to a higher tip before the second service. If she just gave you a second pop in the flow of things, then you can determine if you want to tip her more if she asks for more.
SilverTurbo
03-20-13, 16:44
How come there is no thread for King Relaxation?
SilverTurbo
03-20-13, 20:52
Anybody tried Pacific Spa? I think it used to be called Smile Spa.
SilverTurbo
03-24-13, 16:03
Anybody got any suggestions? Nara was my ATF but she is gone. I would really appreciate it.
Member #4374
03-24-13, 23:08
Anybody got any suggestions? Nara was my ATF but she is gone. I would really appreciate it.Laila at Roses is a good substitute for Nara.
SilverTurbo
03-25-13, 02:21
Laila at Roses is a good substitute for Nara.Thanks. How is Laila' s personality?
Member #4374
04-09-13, 18:36
That was my point on Big Cherry: she gives great service and as a result posters say she's hot. (Which in my opinion, she's not). So this guy who started the other thread got to just find fuckers who got similar taste as him instead of starting a new lame thread.
That was my point on Big Cherry: she gives great service and as a result posters say she's hot. (Which in my opinion, she's not). So this guy who started the other thread got to just find fuckers who got similar taste as him instead of starting a new lame thread.What would help is to ask and confirm how the providers looks / body compares to other providers he had seen. Then, he'll get a better idea of what to expect. But, what a number of guys do is read reports that are positive with high score on the looks then book appointment w / o confirming and looking at the girl. When they get there and she walks into the room.
"Damn, not what I was expecting. Shit, she not that hot. Oh well, I guess I'll follow through with this since I'm already here" *sigh*
LOL.
Viet Whisperer
04-12-13, 00:10
What would help is to ask and confirm how the providers looks / body compares to other providers he had seen. Then, he'll get a better idea of what to expect. But, what a number of guys do is read reports that are positive with high score on the looks then book appointment w / o confirming and looking at the girl. When they get there and she walks into the room.
"Damn, not what I was expecting. Shit, she not that hot. Oh well, I guess I'll follow through with this since I'm already here" *sigh*
LOL.I have done that many times and it sometimes is a good time I didn't expect but sometimes is just ok. The key thing is that if its not good and I chose to try them I don't whine about it as its my fault for not passing if they weren't my looks preference or type LOL.
Retribution
08-02-13, 05:00
Been reading the forums for a while now and decided its time to take the AMP plunge. Would appreciate any advice or opinions to make the most of it. Who would you recommend for a first visit?
I would prefer a provider in their 20s or younger looking. I have been thinking of visiting Nara, Olivia, Wicky, or LaLa. Looking for a good GFE or PSE.
Mahalo mongers.
Been reading the forums for a while now and decided its time to take the AMP plunge. Would appreciate any advice or opinions to make the most of it. Who would you recommend for a first visit?
I would prefer a provider in their 20s or younger looking. I have been thinking of visiting Nara, Olivia, Wicky, or LaLa. Looking for a good GFE or PSE.
Mahalo mongers.Best advice. JUST GO! Read a little on the forum here to single out some girls you'd want to try. Remember YMMV. I don't even bother to read too much into what a girl may / may not do. Only gets people upset. Girl-01 did BB with Brother-01. Brother-02 DID NOT get the same service. Brother-02 comes here to argue. LOL man seen that too much. What I'm trying to say is. Bring $$ pay the house upfront, tip the girl after. Enjoy YOUR TIME with the girl. Girl may not be comfy with you at first, and if you going expecting BB, CIM, etc and it DOES NOT happen. You'll feel like your $$ wasn't worth it. If you don't feel like you got $$ worth of fun, see another girl next time. If you feel like it was worth it, repeat.
Been reading the forums for a while now and decided its time to take the AMP plunge. Would appreciate any advice or opinions to make the most of it. Who would you recommend for a first visit?
I would prefer a provider in their 20s or younger looking. I have been thinking of visiting Nara, Olivia, Wicky, or LaLa. Looking for a good GFE or PSE.
Mahalo mongers.If you're talking about the 5star spa Wicky, she's already gone. Won't be back until November. Or at least thats what she told me.
Best advice. JUST GO! Read a little on the forum here to single out some girls you'd want to try. Remember YMMV. I don't even bother to read too much into what a girl may / may not do. Only gets people upset. Girl-01 did BB with Brother-01. Brother-02 DID NOT get the same service. Brother-02 comes here to argue. LOL man seen that too much. What I'm trying to say is. Bring $$ pay the house upfront, tip the girl after. Enjoy YOUR TIME with the girl. Girl may not be comfy with you at first, and if you going expecting BB, CIM, etc and it DOES NOT happen. You'll feel like your $$ wasn't worth it. If you don't feel like you got $$ worth of fun, see another girl next time. If you feel like it was worth it, repeat.+1 My advise would be to read as much as you can. There is a wealth of information on the forum to steer you in the right direction. Make a list of the providers who you may be interested in seeing. Narrow it down to the ones with good reviews. Like PG says, go with no expectation otherwise you may may up disappointed. You may find there are some members who share the same taste as you. You may want to follow their reviews on who to see. Sometimes you may have to TOFTT but that's part of the game. Lastly give back to the forum with reviews on who you saw. A lot of the senior will help you out down the line with info but only if you contribute. Good luck.
Lowlys One
08-03-13, 10:04
Been reading the forums for a while now and decided its time to take the AMP plunge. Would appreciate any advice or opinions to make the most of it. Who would you recommend for a first visit?
I would prefer a provider in their 20s or younger looking. I have been thinking of visiting Nara, Olivia, Wicky, or LaLa. Looking for a good GFE or PSE.
Mahalo mongers.When you say "looking for a good GFE or PSE", what kind of service would you define as PSE or GFE? I haven't been to an AMP in about a year now but if you're going there looking for PSE or GFE type service (of course depending on what your consider PSE, GFE) , either be willing to shell out more than the going $$ or be ready to be disappointed. Being this is going to be your first time to an AMP needless to say you will be unfamiliar to all there and in all honesty will be treated as such, meaning you prolly be asked to tip upfront, be given at best the standard service. I'm not telling you to tip up front but nowadays are a little different than 5-10 years ago, where tipping after service rendered even for unfamiliar faces was the norm, today things have changed imo in the AMP, you'll prolly be asked to tip upfront and if you refuse you may not be serviced or be serviced with a suspicious eye, which blows the experience. Consider yourself extremely lucky if you get the PSE or GFE for the standard damage. Bottom line is exactly as another monger told you, the less expectations you carry the less chances of dissapointment and frustration you shall experience. In other words its all on you, make the best of what you have, embrace a healthy attitude and almost nothing else should matter.
NightWing24
08-19-13, 16:57
Looking for some input on a possible "real-world situation", hahaha, this is going to get interesting.
Okay, say you arrive at an AMP with 2 loaded barrels & pocket full of cheese. You, obviously, need a release, but you don't want the usual full-blooded caucasian or asian provider (because its always on your menu). So, that slims down your choices between ebony, and hapa girls. See where this is eventually going? LOL. Your choices end up being between Jasmine & Nara. Who would ou guys choose & why? And if the girls agreed, would you be down for a threesome with them?
I would like to know who are the Top 5 AMP Girls right now in Honolulu. Please, I would gladly appreciate the infomation. Thank You.
Hey all,
Looking to have my second AMP experience. (Hope to make this a regular hobby) Anyway, first place was at Roses with Aki. Been seeing the Roses board and not impressed with what's going on there lately. Went back a few weeks ago to see the line up and only Aki was available. Wasn't feeling her at the time since I'm looking for younger and tighter.
Any of you guys have an opinion of which AMP currently has the hottest young Asian girls?
Mahalo!
I would like to know who are the Top 5 AMP Girls right now in Honolulu. Please, I would gladly appreciate the infomation. Thank You.Pine Tree Mimi.
Kison Happy.
Pongi Nara.
VIP Million.
CMH Monica
TomThumb69
09-02-13, 14:57
Pine Tree Mimi.
Kison Happy.
Pongi Nara.
VIP Million.
CMH MonicaIs this the same million?
Secret Agent
09-02-13, 16:32
I would like to know who are the Top 5 AMP Girls right now in Honolulu. Please, I would gladly appreciate the infomation. Thank You.
Hey all,
Looking to have my second AMP experience.
Any of you guys have an opinion of which AMP currently has the hottest young Asian girls?
Mahalo!The two of you should RTFF, although Local1234 already gave you some great suggestions. Make sure to report back here with your experiences with the girls that you end up seeing.
Pine Tree Mimi.
Kison Happy.
Pongi Nara.
VIP Million.
CMH Monica
Rico Suave808
09-02-13, 17:06
The two of you should RTFF, although Local1234 already gave you some great suggestions. Make sure to report back here with your experiences with the girls that you end up seeing.The search function works really well now. You can go to the thread and click on search tools and enter your subject. The advanced search works well too. The only down side is it works on 4 letters or more not 3 letters so names like ivy, amy etc will not work. Yes, please report, don't be like the lurkers who take and don't give in return.
Shopaholick
09-03-13, 00:42
Is this the same million?Literally and figuratively, there is only one Million.
Can anyone help me earn extra money so I can go to AMP's? Please.
Can anyone help me earn extra money so I can go to AMP's? Please.Haha. Me too.
Extra $$$? You could suck a lot of dick and let someone stick it in your hole. All while telling that person they didn't get hit by the ugly stick, but the best thing they've ever had! =D he he he. That was for the guys who think girls don't really earn the $$ we pay.
Had a nice suck, fuck and massage session with one of my favs, when she asked me when I have free time. Still deciding what to do with this. I'd love to have a date, but have an SO, and its a small island. But damn, the thought of hangin with her has the ego teamin up with junior to make a decision.
Can anyone help me earn extra money so I can go to AMP's? Please.I knew a guy who volunteered at a AMP and got a poke at the end of the shift. But this was before the days it was run by Koreans.
Ass Man808
09-14-13, 04:32
Can anyone please tell me which girls are willing to swallow if any?
Can anyone please tell me which girls are willing to swallow if any?You're going to need to get a lot more posts under your belt before anyone will be willing to give you that information. I suggest you experiment with the search function.
I knew a guy who volunteered at a AMP and got a poke at the end of the shift. But this was before the days it was run by Koreans.That's 200 dollars. But, does that involved cleaning other guys' cum?
Can anyone help me earn extra money so I can go to AMP's? Please.Good luck on earning extra money for AMP visits, but sometimes guys might overlook another method to achieve the same goal. Most people, if they really focus on it, can find one or more ways to moderately reduce their other expenditures. Presuming a total AMP visit cost of two-hundred dollars, reducing other expenditures by an average of merely three dollars and thirty-three cents a day will provide enough money for an extra AMP visit every two months. If that amount can gradually be increased to an average of six dollars and sixty-six cents a day, that's enough for an extra AMP visit every month.
Hello my soon to be brothers. I want to be fully initiated into the fold of mongers but I'm not sure where to do this. Where do you guys suggest is best for first timers? I know that AMPs usually don't give the best service to first time customers but I would love some recommendations before I got out there. I was considering Sunflower or Roses, places with companioned showers or table showers. Any suggestions for a noob on where I should go and who I should ask for? Mahalos in advance for your guys' help.
RickJames808
09-24-13, 13:41
The best advice is to stab out on your own and report back. However;
AkiatRoses.
Nara at Roppongi.
MuniatGQ.
And perhaps Mandy at MF are excellent providers to assist you in popping your AMP cherry. There are plenty of non-performing eyecandy girls who will only leave you frustrated. These chicks are excellent baselines for oustanding providers upon whom you might base your future reports. Start high and then filter out the bottom feeders.
RJ.
Hello my soon to be brothers. I want to be fully initiated into the fold of mongers but I'm not sure where to do this. Where do you guys suggest is best for first timers? I know that AMPs usually don't give the best service to first time customers but I would love some recommendations before I got out there. I was considering Sunflower or Roses, places with companioned showers or table showers. Any suggestions for a noob on where I should go and who I should ask for? Mahalos in advance for your guys' help.
RadioHazard
09-24-13, 21:08
Some peps have reccomended a specific girl. Here is my take. Don't go first time picking out a specific girl from here. What you expect and what you may get could be different. Plus if you go asking for someone and they don't know you they may get nervous or you may may get nervous. Those pics on BP. Often hard to tell.
Roses during peak hours seems to have good lineup, generally nice mamas and overall good service with most girls. Go there and pick one. I am sure you will find one you like. If you don't then you have a higher standard in looks and body and will probably need to go to VIP. But VIP the service is generally not as good as Roses.
Just relax and go with the flow. Those girls are pros and if your cool and relaxed will probably take good care of you. If you do what I say. You will probably start your mongering in the middle vs the bottom or top.
Hello my soon to be brothers. I want to be fully initiated into the fold of mongers but I'm not sure where to do this. Where do you guys suggest is best for first timers? I know that AMPs usually don't give the best service to first time customers but I would love some recommendations before I got out there. I was considering Sunflower or Roses, places with companioned showers or table showers. Any suggestions for a noob on where I should go and who I should ask for? Mahalos in advance for your guys' help.
Member #4466
09-25-13, 00:12
Hello my soon to be brothers. I want to be fully initiated into the fold of mongers but I'm not sure where to do this. Where do you guys suggest is best for first timers? I know that AMPs usually don't give the best service to first time customers but I would love some recommendations before I got out there. I was considering Sunflower or Roses, places with companioned showers or table showers. Any suggestions for a noob on where I should go and who I should ask for? Mahalos in advance for your guys' help.Lots of folks offering advice. I think Radio's advice is best and I'd like to echo it.
The first time I went to an MP, I did a lot of research and I ended up at a little MP that was over near the Convention Center behind where Suzies used to be. I don't remember what it was. Evergreen? Anyway, I asked for a specific girl and that was when I realized my tastes differed considerably from others at the time.
My best advice? Don't be afraid to do 2 things at your first time at an MP. First is to lie about where you've been before. Drop a name of somewhere else that's open if they ask if you've been before. Second is don't be afraid to say no to a girl if you just don't feel right. Trust me. I once spent a whole night going from MP to MP looking for the right girl. I think I ended up at Pine Tree with a girl named Toy. Ended up seeing her once or twice a month every month for like a year and a half.
RadioHazard
09-25-13, 03:44
Toy! I think she was Filipino / Korean right? Real spinner. She was always on my list but back then I was stuck Nina at PT.
Lots of folks offering advice. I think Radio's advice is best and I'd like to echo it.
I think I ended up at Pine Tree with a girl named Toy. Ended up seeing her once or twice a month every month for like a year and a half.
Member #4466
09-25-13, 17:35
Toy! I think she was Filipino / Korean right? Real spinner. She was always on my list but back then I was stuck Nina at PT.I dunno what she was. All I know is she had small tits and treated me good.
Thanks for all the advice RickJames808, Radiohazard, and WalkinFenix. I used what I could and what I read up on other threads. Went to SF and saw Ping Pong, had a damn good time.
Member #4374
09-27-13, 06:25
I think for AMPs, definitely go with your gut. And don't be shame for reject a girl. Becuz it's your 200 dollars. Do U want to reject them and be strong or not have a good time with your 200 dollars? And don't pay upfront. I know, some piece of shit loser assholes rip the girl's off and then they start demanding advance payment. But I've never really had a good time paying upfront at an AMP. (If U go to VIP they'll usually demand payment upfront; CDS too it seems for the out of town working girls). If she asks for payment upfront that's usually a bad sign at an AMP so I would reject her. And reporting here is just about keeping it real with specifics. And some of my positive posts other brotherz don't agree, so YMMV. (Vice versa with my negative posts). And if ever questioned by the cops at an AMP don't lie. Just plead the 5th or say,"I don't answer questions." (Never happened to me, knock knock. Though one time the cops were on the couch talking with mama at Nirvana when I was coming out the shower, that was awkward). And it's good to talk and be cool to the girls when U're getting a shower so they relax and give U good service when U get back to the room. And give specific reports here so we can all maximize our entertainment funds. And give them 150 only but an extra tip is debatable if service is spectacular. And wipe your dick off with a germ killing wipe if U get BBBJ. Also if U go in prime time hours expect less becuz they want to finish U off ASAP to get to the next customer. But don't go before noon either because the girls go to sleep around 6 in the morning so they'll be grouchy. (2:00-7:00 afternoon is when they're fresh well-rested and give U more time and better effort I noticed). That's my opinion on AMPs.
RickJames808
09-27-13, 10:41
Welcome to the club! Keep bangin and reportin!
RJ.
Thanks for all the advice RickJames808, Radiohazard, and WalkinFenix. I used what I could and what I read up on other threads. Went to SF and saw Ping Pong, had a damn good time.
In Da Mixx
09-27-13, 14:27
I know, some piece of shit loser assholes rip the girl's off and then they start demanding advance payment.Some girls have been telling me this has been happening a lot lately, and someone has been passing some fake notes to them as well, fucken losers.
RadioHazard
09-27-13, 14:39
I hope these losers and trouble makers know. They will be in deep shit when the the caught. And I am not taking about HPD.
Some girls have been telling me this has been happening a lot lately, and someone has been passing some fake notes to them as well, fucken losers.
Member #4374
10-06-13, 16:38
The thing with making an appt at the AMP is flakiness. On the part of customers who make the appts and the AMPs themselves. (It's a vicious cycle). So I think the best is to make the appt then call later to confirm.
I don't like making appts, but it's hard to just show up and get the hot girl. (When everybody else like check her oil too).
That's why I miss Sakura. I could just show up and they had a plethora of hot hoes all on the couch with sexy lingerie and bikinis on.
Ass Man808
10-06-13, 16:42
The thing with making an appt at the AMP is flakiness. On the part of customers who make the appts and the AMPs themselves. (It's a vicious cycle). So I think the best is to make the appt then call later to confirm.
I don't like making appts, but it's hard to just show up and get the hot girl. (When everybody else like check her oil too).
That's why I miss Sakura. I could just show up and they had a plethora of hot hoes all on the couch with sexy lingerie and bikinis on.I do miss Sakura. That place was good and they had a lot of hot girls.
I think for AMPs, definitely go with your gut. And don't be shame for reject a girl. Becuz it's your 200 dollars. Do U want to reject them and be strong or not have a good time with your 200 dollars? And don't pay upfront. I know, some piece of shit loser assholes rip the girl's off and then they start demanding advance payment. But I've never really had a good time paying upfront at an AMP. (If U go to VIP they'll usually demand payment upfront; CDS too it seems for the out of town working girls). If she asks for payment upfront that's usually a bad sign at an AMP so I would reject her. And reporting here is just about keeping it real with specifics. And some of my positive posts other brotherz don't agree, so YMMV. (Vice versa with my negative posts). And if ever questioned by the cops at an AMP don't lie. Just plead the 5th or say,"I don't answer questions." (Never happened to me, knock knock. Though one time the cops were on the couch talking with mama at Nirvana when I was coming out the shower, that was awkward). And it's good to talk and be cool to the girls when U're getting a shower so they relax and give U good service when U get back to the room. And give specific reports here so we can all maximize our entertainment funds. And give them 150 only but an extra tip is debatable if service is spectacular. And wipe your dick off with a germ killing wipe if U get BBBJ. Also if U go in prime time hours expect less becuz they want to finish U off ASAP to get to the next customer. But don't go before noon either because the girls go to sleep around 6 in the morning so they'll be grouchy. (2:00-7:00 afternoon is when they're fresh well-rested and give U more time and better effort I noticed). That's my opinion on AMPs.I don't know what you all go to these places for but I only go to talk story with a cute girl.
So my ATF is retiring next spring. I have been seeing her for more than 10 years almost exclusively and have built up a sense of trust where I always get BBBJ, BBFSCIP, BBBJCIM along with a great medium pressure massage. All this and some good conversation make it really hard to go elsewhere especially when I read reports of less than satisfied customers. I will be seeing her until she retires and leaves. She is taking care of her mom and a teenaged daughter so it is getting harder to hide what she does for a living. Does anyone out there have any recommendations on who I can see. MILFs at Kison are fun but lots of turn over and kind of a public place plus they don't all give massages. Not in to the group thing with Monica and Ruby plus I don't care for hard fake titties. If you have someone that can take my ATF's place PM me please. Mahalo!
Idusixtyning
10-11-13, 04:23
So my ATF is retiring next spring. I have been seeing her for more than 10 years almost exclusively and have built up a sense of trust where I always get BBBJ, BBFSCIP, BBBJCIM along with a great medium pressure massage. All this and some good conversation make it really hard to go elsewhere especially when I read reports of less than satisfied customers. I will be seeing her until she retires and leaves. She is taking care of her mom and a teenaged daughter so it is getting harder to hide what she does for a living. Does anyone out there have any recommendations on who I can see. MILFs at Kison are fun but lots of turn over and kind of a public place plus they don't all give massages. Not in to the group thing with Monica and Ruby plus I don't care for hard fake titties. If you have someone that can take my ATF's place PM me please. Mahalo!Gee, can't you make special arrangements with her after she retires. I'm sure she can always use some pocket money from someone she knows and trusts. Just do it at your place. Sort of like a NSA thing but she gets a gift from you. You might have to make it a larger gift than the standard AMP tip to get the exclusive time with her.
So I'm debating between going to an AMP or escort and I need some advice. Can you guys recommend a girl that's easy on the eyes (preferable thinner, maybe spinner type) and offers MSOG and BB (BJ or FS) for $$ or less? This is exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance for the help!
AmpAddict808
10-11-13, 11:16
So I'm debating between going to an AMP or escort and I need some advice. Can you guys recommend a girl that's easy on the eyes (preferable thinner, maybe spinner type) and offers MSOG and BB (BJ or FS) for $$ or less? This is exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks in advance for the help!Just go to the AMPs and look for yourself. You get to choose. Tell them to bring them all by. Tell mama to agree that if there is no girl you like then she is to give the house fee back to you. You want BB then go to Kison. It's like swimming, if you don't jump in the water then you'll never learn.
Gee, can't you make special arrangements with her after she retires. I'm sure she can always use some pocket money from someone she knows and trusts. Just do it at your place. Sort of like a NSA thing but she gets a gift from you. You might have to make it a larger gift than the standard AMP tip to get the exclusive time with her.She is moving back to Korea so.
Captin Crunch
10-11-13, 11:47
So my ATF is retiring next spring. I have been seeing her for more than 10 years almost exclusively and have built up a sense of trust where I always get BBBJ, BBFSCIP, BBBJCIM along with a great medium pressure massage. All this and some good conversation make it really hard to go elsewhere especially when I read reports of less than satisfied customers. I will be seeing her until she retires and leaves. She is taking care of her mom and a teenaged daughter so it is getting harder to hide what she does for a living. Does anyone out there have any recommendations on who I can see. MILFs at Kison are fun but lots of turn over and kind of a public place plus they don't all give massages. Not in to the group thing with Monica and Ruby plus I don't care for hard fake titties. If you have someone that can take my ATF's place PM me please. Mahalo!Who is she?
Who is she?Sorry, she isn't taking new customers, sticking with her old timers till she leaves for the motherland with her family. She saved enough to buy a condo there and even helped send a relative to college in Korea. She may open a small restaurant but getting out of the business for sure.
So my ATF is retiring next spring. I have been seeing her for more than 10 years almost exclusively and have built up a sense of trust where I always get BBBJ, BBFSCIP, BBBJCIM along with a great medium pressure massage. All this and some good conversation make it really hard to go elsewhere especially when I read reports of less than satisfied customers. I will be seeing her until she retires and leaves. She is taking care of her mom and a teenaged daughter so it is getting harder to hide what she does for a living.It must be bittersweet after all these years building a relationship with her. I'm sure you wish her nothing but the best as she starts a new chapter in her life. Best wishes to you too.
Sorry, she isn't taking new customers, sticking with her old timers till she leaves for the motherland with her family. She saved enough to buy a condo there and even helped send a relative to college in Korea. She may open a small restaurant but getting out of the business for sure.I don't know man. How can you expect bros to share if you don't provide info on your current ATF? I don't want the info myself but just sitting on the sidelines watching how this plays out. I guess you just have to find another ATF the old fashioned way, sample girls at MPs until you find her. That's probably how you find the current one anyway. We've all been there man.
I don't know man. How can you expect bros to share if you don't provide info on your current ATF? I don't want the info myself but just sitting on the sidelines watching how this plays out. I guess you just have to find another ATF the old fashioned way, sample girls at MPs until you find her. That's probably how you find the current one anyway. We've all been there man.Just respecting her privacy. If she were hustling for more business I'd be glad to share but it took awhile to build the trust to the point of going fully BB. She is licensed as a masseuse but met her first at an AMP before she took the test. Just trying to save some time when I start looking. I know she has someone else taking over next year but don't know what to expect. Sorry.
Idusixtyning
10-12-13, 01:31
Just respecting her privacy. If she were hustling for more business I'd be glad to share but it took awhile to build the trust to the point of going fully BB. She is licensed as a masseuse but met her first at an AMP before she took the test. Just trying to save some time when I start looking. I know she has someone else taking over next year but don't know what to expect. Sorry.Good thing it sounds like you are grounded and not obsessed with her. Some mongerers can get obsessed with a provider and are so naive that they don't know it's all business and about the money. Sounds like you are aware of that which is good. Which is probably why you and her have had a good understanding as she knows you can separate business from personal. Kind of a platonic business/acquaintance thing you built up but can walk away from. But I'm sure you invested a lot of money. But overall, less than it would be with a wife you may end up divorcing. LOL
Mogo, sorry but, can you repost what you wrote. I accidentally deleted what you wrote. Sorry about that. I wanted to reply to your message not delete it.
TongueLover696
10-15-13, 02:34
Just go to the AMPs and look for yourself. You get to choose. Tell them to bring them all by. Tell mama to agree that if there is no girl you like then she is to give the house fee back to you. You want BB then go to Kison. It's like swimming, if you don't jump in the water then you'll never learn.You got some good advice from AA808. Hope you took it, but I see you are still exploring the BP ads in a later post. You could also go to CHM and tell MS that you want to break your cherry for $ If you crave younger girls than Monica or Ruby, you should go to Kison. If you go after most of the real young ones, you'll find the level of service is lacking. 28-35 is a magical time for women. Old enough to play all of the games you want to play and still very hot looking.
Captin Crunch
10-15-13, 02:51
Anyone know any AMP, mt, or kbg with small titties (nice long nips) that love daty? I just have a craving and fetish.
Anyone know any AMP, mt, or kbg with small titties (nice long nips) that love daty? I just have a craving and fetish.Mimi at TS has small ones with eraser nips. But, I didn't DATU though. So, not sure if she likes DATY.
I haven't been to an AMP for about three months, where should I go to? Which girl should I try? Please give me suggestions. Thank you, I will really appreciate the info. Much Mahalo.
I haven't been to an AMP for about three months, where should I go to? Which girl should I try? Please give me suggestions. Thank you, I will really appreciate the info. Much Mahalo.Best thing to do is just read reports on different providers and then go and see for yourself. Noone on here knows what type of provider you like in terms of her looks, attitude and service to give you a recommendation.
SandPro1981
11-13-13, 17:01
Wondering how to handle "shopping" various AMPs. I have read quite a bit on here about mongers dropping in and "checking out" the lineup then leaving. I have always just been shuffled into a room and asked who I would like to see. How do you guys handle asking to see the girls then leaving if you don't like the menu?
Wondering how to handle "shopping" various AMPs. I have read quite a bit on here about mongers dropping in and "checking out" the lineup then leaving. I have always just been shuffled into a room and asked who I would like to see. How do you guys handle asking to see the girls then leaving if you don't like the menu?This is where you have to be really good at negotiating with the Mamas. Most of the time the mamas will let you look at a lineup or pick the girl as she sends them one by one. Just explain to her upfront that you want the house fee back if you do not like any of the girls she shows you. It all depends on the individual AMP's. If you are new sometimes it is a good idea to take the mamas recommendations occasionally to "build trust" as long as the girl is not hideous. Never, never act like an asshole or get mad at the mama's because Honolulu is a small town and word gets around fast that you are a difficult customer. Do not be too picky or it will hurt you in the long run. Just be nice and respectful but firm. Of course there is the occasional AMP where the mama is a total pain in the ass and does not care about the customers and you will have a hard time (321). Fortunately those places are few and far between.
By the way don't go by looks alone. This forum and Backpage will help a lot to give you ideas but in the end the final decision is up to you. I usually pick the girl that is giving off the "right vibe" when she comes in the room to present herself. How do I know who to pick? Experience, the greatest way to learn. Good luck.
Hi guys I'm a visitor from Sydney and would like some info from you experienced Hawaiian mongers. I'm wanting to visit an AMP and have narrowed my choices down to happy from kison, Skye from ichiban, and Paula from ichiban. Which out of the three would you guys recommend and which of the three looks the youngest? Thanks in advance.
Ewabeachguy
11-15-13, 15:53
Anyone know where Big Cherry is now?
Hi guys I'm a visitor from Sydney and would like some info from you experienced Hawaiian mongers. I'm wanting to visit an AMP and have narrowed my choices down to happy from kison, Skye from ichiban, and Paula from ichiban. Which out of the three would you guys recommend and which of the three looks the youngest? Thanks in advance.If you'd narrowed it down to those three then it sounds like you have matched them to your preferences and any of the three will do. And who looks youngest is probably in the eye of the beholder too. None are real young but there's going to be some disagreement as to which one is older. BTW I'm assuming you mean Paula at Kison. If there's a Paula at Ichiban now, there haven't been any reviews.
Jizzy McDizzy
11-15-13, 18:19
Hi guys I'm a visitor from Sydney and would like some info from you experienced Hawaiian mongers. I'm wanting to visit an AMP and have narrowed my choices down to happy from kison, Skye from ichiban, and Paula from ichiban. Which out of the three would you guys recommend and which of the three looks the youngest? Thanks in advance.I am assuming you mean Paula at Kison too. I can't recommend any since I haven't and probably would not bang any of um. But I can tell you who looks the youngest.
Happy looks about mid to late 40's.
Paula looks early to mid 40's.
Skye looks about 39 and 364 days. Nah but Skye is the "youngest" looking of the 3 IMHO.
Ass Man808
11-15-13, 19:37
Anyone know where Big Cherry is now?Mama said she is on vacation for 3 weeks.
Hi guys I'm a visitor from Sydney and would like some info from you experienced Hawaiian mongers. I'm wanting to visit an AMP and have narrowed my choices down to happy from kison, Skye from ichiban, and Paula from ichiban. Which out of the three would you guys recommend and which of the three looks the youngest? Thanks in advance.They all look about the same age, but all look distinctly different. Can't go wrong with any of them. Have fun and Aloha!
Stangman808
11-21-13, 00:33
Anyone know where Big Cherry is now?She is now at Chi. I stopped by to see her a few days ago, but she had an appointment with another customer.
She is now at Chi. I stopped by to see her a few days ago, but she had an appointment with another customer.
chi king st near don qeehotee & panda express. Big cherry lost weight so she's tall slim cherry now. Super sexy Korean girl. Like pornstar she Squeelz. BBBJ then wanted to 69 but pulled back because her wet pussy prolly dripping wit a BBFS cip splooge job from one of you guys. If I wanted warm egg nog shot would've gone hulas kapahulu.
Well, been around this hobby from day one. I've had them all. The hottest of the hotties.. The Julie, Million, Chanel, Nara, Mini, Kelly, etc. I think K-girls are the best bar none. The Viets and Chins girls, I tried them all out too but I still prefer them K-hotties. I have sampled or recon'd the service over looks girls = kison but they didn't truly satisfy the monger beast in me LOL. Now the hotties seem boring and the BBFS, P.S.E gals seem not hot enough. I recon'd most of the places not long ago and basically decided to go back home. I know I'm not the only veteran monger here with the same problem. How about it fellas? Discuss.
Well, been around this hobby from day one. I've had them all. The hottest of the hotties.. The Julie, Million, Chanel, Nara, Mini, Kelly, etc. I think K-girls are the best bar none. The Viets and Chins girls, I tried them all out too but I still prefer them K-hotties. I have sampled or recon'd the service over looks girls = kison but they didn't truly satisfy the monger beast in me LOL. Now the hotties seem boring and the BBFS, P.S.E gals seem not hot enough. I recon'd most of the places not long ago and basically decided to go back home. I know I'm not the only veteran monger here with the same problem. How about it fellas? Discuss.How about Vivian and Olivia?
Well, been around this hobby from day one. I've had them all. The hottest of the hotties.. The Julie, Million, Chanel, Nara, Mini, Kelly, etc. I think K-girls are the best bar none. The Viets and Chins girls, I tried them all out too but I still prefer them K-hotties. I have sampled or recon'd the service over looks girls = kison but they didn't truly satisfy the monger beast in me LOL. Now the hotties seem boring and the BBFS, P.S.E gals seem not hot enough. I recon'd most of the places not long ago and basically decided to go back home. I know I'm not the only veteran monger here with the same problem. How about it fellas? Discuss.I hear you bro. I've been asking myself the same question too but for different reasons and circumstances. I've been in a funk for the past couple weeks. I know what I should do to get out of it and was ready to do it but everyday I waver on what to do and it's killing me. I thought I was a lot stronger than that, but my resolve is weak. Idk if it's the holidays or not. Maybe I got to find myself a new hobby like lawn bowling or knitting *yawn* LOL.
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