UTR Ladies

[Vbgent4u2c]

With the abundance of UTR ladies in the area I figured they should have their own thread!

What is a "UTR" lady?"UTR" = "Under The Radar". This could mean several things to different people but my definition is a lady that doesn't advertise on escort sites (Backpage, etc) and is low volume. This could include new ladies or ladies that at one time did advertise / post but don't anymore.

Where can they be found? Well, they can be found just about anywhere. Personal ads, chat lines, at the store, massage ads, etc. One of my most recent discoveries was at a local pizza place.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Found a very nice looking. 22 year old, thin, asian / aa mix. Needs some help.

SM's and recent contributors you know what to do.

[Seanrinva]

Nice thread. Hoping to contribute.

[Nymking]

One of my most recent discoveries was at a local pizza place.Nice. I always am assessing the talent at some of the places I go to for lunch. There've been 2-3 I think might have been game, but unfortunately they've all been in places that my SO sometimes frequents with me, and don't want the risk of her or her coworkers letting the cat out of the bag, so I can only dream (and not in the "dream" sense that some use as code).

Kind of in reverse, but one provider from around here (I think recently retired) used to be a bartender where my SO & I used to frequent a few years earlier. I didn't recognize her off the bat because when I knew her, all I saw her was in the bad bar lighting and she was preggo at the time. Took her a few, but she recognized me. Ever since then, I've had my radar up.

[Jwredskins55]

I love the idea of UTR but I always feel weird about putting these girls out there. Like I know we are all in this together as hobbyist but one girl I have who is UTR literally only does is just for some spending money for her kids. She'll hit me up when its like birthday / holidays. She's blonde hair and sexy as hell. A little curvier as of late but I really don't mind. However I have tried to hit her up when she wasn't the one calling me and she has always blown me off. How do you approach giving her info out to other guys without losing her as a every now and then fuck? In reality I would really be helping her and be hooking all of you guys up so well. I just don't know how to approach it.

[Bb2011]

I love the idea of UTR but I always feel weird about putting these girls out there. Like I know we are all in this together as hobbyist but one girl I have who is UTR literally only does is just for some spending money for her kids. She'll hit me up when its like birthday / holidays. She's blonde hair and sexy as hell. A little curvier as of late but I really don't mind. However I have tried to hit her up when she wasn't the one calling me and she has always blown me off. How do you approach giving her info out to other guys without losing her as a every now and then fuck? In reality I would really be helping her and be hooking all of you guys up so well. I just don't know how to approach it.I wouldn't with her! What I normally do is say that I have friends that I trust that want to see you (the utr chick) and wait for her response! If she's game then she's game if not her loss! B

[Nymking]

I love the idea of UTR but I always feel weird about putting these girls out there. Like I know we are all in this together as hobbyist but one girl I have who is UTR literally only does is just for some spending money for her kids. She'll hit me up when its like birthday / holidays. She's blonde hair and sexy as hell. A little curvier as of late but I really don't mind. However I have tried to hit her up when she wasn't the one calling me and she has always blown me off. How do you approach giving her info out to other guys without losing her as a every now and then fuck? In reality I would really be helping her and be hooking all of you guys up so well. I just don't know how to approach it.From the sound of things, the situation with you is probably ideal for her most of the year and she's probably not interested in having a whole bunch of suitors flocking to her all at once. In the back of her mind, she knows what she is trading for the $, but has it justified in her mind with you. Don't make her feel like you think she's a working girl who'd screw anyone out there for some quick cash (even though she might). Just throwing her info out there, then have 50 guys bombard her would not only blow it for yourself, but probably make her rethink a similar arrangement in the future with anyone. If you think she might be interested in pulling in a little more given that it's holiday season, I would approach the subject indirectly and very delicately, maybe talking about her financial needs for this time of year and let her know what of that you could assist with. If there's still a decent gap between what she needs and what you can help with, see if she has any thoughts on how to make that up, slowly build up to a point where you can read if she seems open to finding other guys. If she does, suggest you think you might know how to find someone interested (don't mention there's a board full of mongers foaming at the mouth, LOL). Unless she says she wants to see "X" more guys, assume just one more for starters (somewhere down the road possibly see if she'd be interested in more, but like I said, don't make her feel like a working girl) , then have SMs PM you their email info and give her the info of the first (or "X" number of) SMs interested for her to contact them from there.

Guess is she might want to meet & feel out any potential new guys on neutral turf (assuming since she is ultra UTR, you ran into her in public first and not answering some personal ad or on a site or something) , see if that's the case and of course mention that in your post. This is one situation where I think it'd be ok to be a bit selfish in that, if she doesn't seem at all game at any point, drop the subject, don't ruin it for yourself.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I love the idea of UTR but I always feel weird about putting these girls out there. Like I know we are all in this together as hobbyist but one girl I have who is UTR literally only does is just for some spending money for her kids. She'll hit me up when its like birthday / holidays. She's blonde hair and sexy as hell. A little curvier as of late but I really don't mind. However I have tried to hit her up when she wasn't the one calling me and she has always blown me off. How do you approach giving her info out to other guys without losing her as a every now and then fuck? In reality I would really be helping her and be hooking all of you guys up so well. I just don't know how to approach it.Well, in my opinion, only an idiot would mess up a good thing with a UTR lady. Some UTRL's only want / need one friend on a regular basis. However, in my experience there will come a time when she will need more funds and will ask you if you have any friends that you can send her way. Christmas is right around the corner!

Also, if she is hinting about more money or anything like that you could always suggest it to her and let her make the decision on giving her number out and to whom.

[Roush 427]

Well, in my opinion, only an idiot would mess up a good thing with a UTR lady. Some UTRL's only want / need one friend on a regular basis. However, in my experience there will come a time when she will need more funds and will ask you if you have any friends that you can send her way. Christmas is right around the corner!

Also, if she is hinting about more money or anything like that you could always suggest it to her and let her make the decision on giving her number out and to whom.Ill have to second that my friend, Roush

[ZenExecutive]

Everyone is spot on about not screwing up a good UTR situation. If she wants some extra business and it comes up in conversation than great. Let HER contact the prospective clients.

I got into a situation quite a few years ago where I struck a deal with a UTR to discretely pass out her info and in return she rewarded me with freebies. This turned into her bringing a girlfriend into our freebie sessions and more discrete advertising for both. Before I knew it I was getting 10 or more emails a day! I finally figured out that I had inadvertently turned into their pimp! It was fun for awhile but I eventually came to my senses.

The moral of this story is don't pimp your UTRs. Let them contact prospective clients, or you too might become an accidental pimp. Try explaining to your significant other and LE. "I didn't mean to become a pimp, it just happened".

[Vbgent4u2c]

Ill have to second that my friend, RoushHey Roush!

Welcome to my neighborhood.

Thanks for your opinion. Always well respected.

How is our little MBUTRL? LOL!

[Vbgent4u2c]

This turned into her bringing a girlfriend into our freebie sessions and more discrete advertising for both.Zen has touched on one of the many benefits of UTR relationships. Most of them have a friend (or more) in a similiar situation and can often lead to many more very rewarding encounters!

[Roush 427]

Hey Roush!

Welcome to my neighborhood.

Thanks for your opinion. Always well respected.

How is our little MBUTRL? LOL!Thats what she always wants LOL, don't they all, have fun Roush

[Jwredskins55]

Thanks guys for all of the good advice on my UTR. I knee her in highschool and then kinda bumped into her and found out she had a kid so it is a real delicate situation. I'm always one who loves to share but this one I might just have to keep all to myself.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Thanks guys for all of the good advice on my UTR. I knee her in highschool and then kinda bumped into her and found out she had a kid so it is a real delicate situation. I'm always one who loves to share but this one I might just have to keep all to myself.At least until she needs more help than you can give her. Christmas is right around the corner!

[Vbgent4u2c]

OK SM's and contributors.

Found a nice, cute little blond that I used to see about a year ago. She is back from an all expenses paid vacation on the city. Needs some help getting back on her feet.

And please don't contact me if you haven't posted. Not going to give her number out to someone with 0 or 1 posts. No matter how many times you ask!

[Cckyashell]

Has anyone had luck with any of the mp in Virginia beach. I just wasted 60 plus tip yesterday. Am I doing something wrong?

[Vbgent4u2c]

Has anyone had luck with any of the mp in Virginia beach. I just wasted 60 plus tip yesterday. Am I doing something wrong?Not really the right thread but where did you go? Have you read the massage threads?

[Cckyashell]

Not really the right thread but where did you go? Have you read the massage threads?I did blow it on the wrong thread but to answer you question, Top healing hands.

[Smallville]

Hooked up with an old friend. Used to work in OV but now has a place at Oceanfront. Great BBBJ for. 40. Lots of teasing, playing with the boys, you name it. She said she doesn't do this anymore because of her job, but now she needs your help! Asked if it's cool to share her email with some friends and was fine with it. SM's and peeps I've traded with before, PM me.

[Brohymen]

Have contact info for a cutie on the southside. She will do outs till five on the weekdays. I know she has a kid at home so she won't have ins and she's just trying to get some cash while the old man's at work. Unfortunately for me I'm on the peninsula and won't he able to take advantage of it without time off of work but I have pics and contact info if anyone's interested then pm for details.

[FreeFallin]

I am in the mood to give a good deed or too. Please forward her info.

Thanks


Have contact info for a cutie on the southside. She will do outs till five on the weekdays. I know she has a kid at home so she won't have ins and she's just trying to get some cash while the old man's at work. Unfortunately for me I'm on the peninsula and won't he able to take advantage of it without time off of work but I have pics and contact info if anyone's interested then pm for details.

[Scboi72]

I am in the mood to give a good deed or too. Please forward her info.

ThanksHey I would not mind helping someone out. Just send me her info.

[Vbgent4u2c]

SM's and Contributors,

Found a very sexy 30 year old MILF, with huge tits, nice legs and very talented. Has run into some financial difficulty and is looking for help. She is on the southside and can host.

You know what to do.

[Roush 427]

SM's and Contributors,

Found a very sexy 30 year old MILF, with huge tits, nice legs and very talented. Has run into some financial difficulty and is looking for help. She is on the southside and can host.

You know what to do.Hey my friend how about sending me a few down here, LOL thanks take care and enjoy, Roush

[Vbgent4u2c]

Hey my friend how about sending me a few down here, LOL thanks take care and enjoy, RoushNot til the summer my friend.

You could always take a trip north though!

[Roush 427]

Not til the summer my friend.

You could always take a trip north though!I go to rocky mount some times, so that might be an idea, Roush

[ZenExecutive]

SM's and Contributors,

Found a very sexy 30 year old MILF, with huge tits, nice legs and very talented. Has run into some financial difficulty and is looking for help. She is on the southside and can host.

You know what to do.Thanks Vbgent for the great referral. I emailed her and we agreed on a time, price, and place for the following day. The day of our meeting started us both on a series of very hot, erotic emails that kept me distracted from work all day. I was horny as hell waiting for 5pm to come. I arrived at her place and we proceeded to get comfortable and then we both turned into animals, ripping off each other's clothes. We were on the bed, the floor, the and all over the room. Yes she is extremely talented. What a great porn star experience!

[Vbgent4u2c]

Thanks Vbgent for the great referral. I emailed her and we agreed on a time, price, and place for the following day. The day of our meeting started us both on a series of very hot, erotic emails that kept me distracted from work all day. I was horny as hell waiting for 5pm to come. I arrived at her place and we proceeded to get comfortable and then we both turned into animals, ripping off each other's clothes. We were on the bed, the floor, the and all over the room. Yes she is extremely talented. What a great porn star experience!Glad you had fun!

[TheKing]

My girl Crystal is looking to make a little extra money this holiday season. She's a little ghetto but gets the job done and enjoys herself while she does it. Senior members hit me up for her number.

[OurDogBlue]

Thanks Vbgent for the great referral. I emailed her and we agreed on a time, price, and place for the following day. The day of our meeting started us both on a series of very hot, erotic emails that kept me distracted from work all day. I was horny as hell waiting for 5pm to come. I arrived at her place and we proceeded to get comfortable and then we both turned into animals, ripping off each other's clothes. We were on the bed, the floor, the and all over the room. Yes she is extremely talented. What a great porn star experience!Ditto! True that!

[ZenExecutive]

I have run across a couple of ads for women looking to make some extra holiday cash:

Jonette. She is white. 40 something and resides in VB near Lynnhaven. Her CL ad is about looking for Odd Jobs. I negotiated a full nude massage but then she had to cancel and we were not able to find a time. She seemed really trailer trash, and actually that address she gave me was in a trailer! For those of you into MILF trailer trash this it might be interesting.

Jess. 20 something Is living in a hotel near 664 and 64 and is offering a nice menu of specials:

Condoms for everything.

I don't do anal.

Handjob 60.

Blowjob 80.

Sex 120.

Sex and Handjob starter 135.

Sex and Blowjob Starter 160

Both are on CL if do some searching but PM if you need contact info.

[Jimmie301]

I have run across a couple of ads for women looking to make some extra holiday cash:

Jonette. She is white. 40 something and resides in VB near Lynnhaven. Her CL ad is about looking for Odd Jobs. I negotiated a full nude massage but then she had to cancel and we were not able to find a time. She seemed really trailer trash, and actually that address she gave me was in a trailer! For those of you into MILF trailer trash this it might be interesting.

Jess. 20 something Is living in a hotel near 664 and 64 and is offering a nice menu of specials:

Condoms for everything.

I don't do anal.

Handjob 60.

Blowjob 80.

Sex 120.

Sex and Handjob starter 135.

Sex and Blowjob Starter 160

Both are on CL if do some searching but PM if you need contact info.I've seen Jonette, you hit the nail on the head regarding her level of trailer park status. I was able to negotiate a quick BBBJ which was pretty good actually. Definitely seems to enjoy doing it.

[Kndll]

In the spirit of Christmas.

And because it seems I'm always told I don't share much my girl Cat is a pleaser.

[Telephone Number deleted by Admin]

She goes the extra mile.

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[Vbgent4u2c]

I found another hot UTR lady. She is completely off the grid and never has done anything like this before, but being a single mom has its challenges.

She needs $500 for some car repairs by Monday. She is very attractive with a nice body. Not the best skills as her heart obviously is not into this, but she really needs some help. Very limited availability as she is only going to see 3-4 gentlemen.

SM's and contribs you know what to do.

[Roush 427]

I found another hot UTR lady. She is completely off the grid and never has done anything like this before, but being a single mom has its challenges.

She needs $500 for some car repairs by Monday. She is very attractive with a nice body. Not the best skills as her heart obviously is not into this, but she really needs some help. Very limited availability as she is only going to see 3-4 gentlemen.

SM's and contribs you know what to do.Grow up I hope I can get it goin like you have, LOL enjoy and have fun my friend, Roush

[Johnt8]

Grow up I hope I can get it goin like you have, LOL enjoy and have fun my friend, RoushWas thinking the same thing but didn't post it till I saw what you said LOL. Sent a pm.

[Roush 427]

Was thinking the same thing but didn't post it till I saw what you said LOL. Sent a pm.He is cool a lot of guys don't share there utr ladies, Roush

[Vbgent4u2c]

Grow up I hope I can get it goin like you have, LOL enjoy and have fun my friend, RoushYou the man in Myrtle Beach and you know it Roush. I will clue you in that Facebook is becoming a much more useful tool in finding UTR ladies!

How is our friend Ro doing? Take her to any adult video stores lately? LOL!

[Roush 427]

You the man in Myrtle Beach and you know it Roush. I will clue you in that Facebook is becoming a much more useful tool in finding UTR ladies!

How is our friend Ro doing? Take her to any adult video stores lately? LOL!My friend she's well she's doing it all at her place now and just waiting on you for sure, have fun up there, Roush

[Vbgent4u2c]

He is cool a lot of guys don't share there utr ladies, RoushI have to admit. I didn't want to share this one but she needs more help thanks can offer right now.

[Roush 427]

I have to admit. I didn't want to share this one but she needs more help thanks can offer right now.Like we are human some times, LOL let me know when your comming down and ill see about getting you some numbers to play with, Roush

[VaMassageFan]

I have come across a UTR lady that needs some help. I can't host here nor can she. Things being a little tight I wondered if someone may have a place in Virginia Beach where I could take this lady for a little adult fun? Her price is right, but to give better details, I need to TOFTT. Or if someone else would like first drive, pm me for contact info.

[VaMassageFan]

I have come across a UTR lady that needs some help. I can't host here nor can she. Things being a little tight I wondered if someone may have a place in Virginia Beach where I could take this lady for a little adult fun? Her price is right, but to give better details, I need to TOFTT. Or if someone else would like first drive, pm me for contact info.Ok, I owe all of you an apology. I tried to help this lady and the I tried to set this up the stranger she became. I will obviously do better research in the future. This one turned out to be a flake. Thanks to all of you who offered assistance and showed interest. Again let me apologize for letti8ng this one fool me. I really do know better. LOL.

[Johnt8]

I'm sure we have all been there and done that.


Ok, I owe all of you an apology. I tried to help this lady and the I tried to set this up the stranger she became. I will obviously do better research in the future. This one turned out to be a flake. Thanks to all of you who offered assistance and showed interest. Again let me apologize for letti8ng this one fool me. I really do know better. LOL.

[To Old]

Ok, I owe all of you an apology. I tried to help this lady and the I tried to set this up the stranger she became. I will obviously do better research in the future. This one turned out to be a flake. Thanks to all of you who offered assistance and showed interest. Again let me apologize for letti8ng this one fool me. I really do know better. LOL.It seems to happens every time you try and help someone out, they take advantage of you or the situation. Don, t let if bother you, you did what you thought was right at the time.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I have come across a UTR lady that needs some help. I can't host here nor can she. Things being a little tight I wondered if someone may have a place in Virginia Beach where I could take this lady for a little adult fun? Her price is right, but to give better details, I need to TOFTT. Or if someone else would like first drive, pm me for contact info.I know who you are talking about and trust me you didn't miss anything. She sent me her picture and I couldn't delete it fast enough! I wouldn't have gone to see her if she paid me!

For those of you that feel looks aren't important I have one for you. Will give you her info and all you have to do is tell me about your experience. LOL!

Feeling lucky?

[Johnt8]

I agree. Tried to delete it as fast as a could for all reasons mentioned and some LOL. Goodness knows that was rough to view.


I know who you are talking about and trust me you didn't miss anything. She sent me her picture and I couldn't delete it fast enough! I wouldn't have gone to see her if she paid me!

For those of you that feel looks aren't important I have one for you. Will give you her info and all you have to do is tell me about your experience. LOL!

Feeling lucky?

[Jimmie301]

I saw the pics and agree, definitely not one to brag or even admit to anyone that you ever saw.


I know who you are talking about and trust me you didn't miss anything. She sent me her picture and I couldn't delete it fast enough! I wouldn't have gone to see her if she paid me!

For those of you that feel looks aren't important I have one for you. Will give you her info and all you have to do is tell me about your experience. LOL!

Feeling lucky?

[Jimmie301]

I ran into a short blonde that stays utr. She's not the best but she's good when you want to get one out on short notice. BBBJ for 60 and 100 for everything till you finish. You need to bring your own cover or she'll just take you bare which isn't my thing but maybe it's yours. No kissing, and she's not always into it but she's eager to get more customers. SM please PM for info. Being a regular member working on my senior status I would appreciate any leads you may have.

[FreeFallin]

I haveone thats not UTR but you can have a good time with. PM Please.


I ran into a short blonde that stays utr. She's not the best but she's good when you want to get one out on short notice. BBBJ for 60 and 100 for everything till you finish. You need to bring your own cover or she'll just take you bare which isn't my thing but maybe it's yours. No kissing, and she's not always into it but she's eager to get more customers. SM please PM for info. Being a regular member working on my senior status I would appreciate any leads you may have.

[Johnt8]

Read my previous post and you will find that this is what I am looking for.

Sent you a PM.


I ran into a short blonde that stays utr. She's not the best but she's good when you want to get one out on short notice. BBBJ for 60 and 100 for everything till you finish. You need to bring your own cover or she'll just take you bare which isn't my thing but maybe it's yours. No kissing, and she's not always into it but she's eager to get more customers. SM please PM for info. Being a regular member working on my senior status I would appreciate any leads you may have.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I hear there is a nice lady with awesome oral skills available tonight. She had a massage appt cancel on her and wants to re-coup the room cost.

She has a room on the southside (central area) and can host.

Pretty face, all over tan, huge tits, top notch oral skills and gives a great Nuru massage but that might not be available on short notice. She is a little on the thick side, but not a bbw. One of the best deals in the area.

If you are available tonight to help her out give me a shout.

SM's and contributors only!

[Vbgent4u2c]

The UTR Lady described in post #24 will be available tomorrow and looking for some help.

In a word she is awesome.

SM's and contributors you know what to do.

[Roush 427]

The UTR Lady described in post #24 will be available tomorrow and looking for some help.

In a word she is awesome.

SM's and contributors you know what to do.Heard from you for a while thought some gals husband had done found you in the closet or under the bed, LOL have fun guy Roush

[Vbgent4u2c]

No. Not yet. Not yet. I however did find some guy in a closet when I went to see a lady awhile back.

The lady and I were talking before getting started and the closet "sneezed". LOL.

How about you? Anymore freebies in the adult video stores?


Heard from you for a while thought some gals husband had done found you in the closet or under the bed, LOL have fun guy Roush

[Roush 427]

No. Not yet. Not yet. I however did find some guy in a closet when I went to see a lady awhile back.

The lady and I were talking before getting started and the closet "sneezed". LOL.

How about you? Anymore freebies in the adult video stores?Damn jr would have shrunk up if I heard that sneeze, plus a heart attack, wow, got another freebe a week or so ago trying to keep little one busy with guys she's always needing help, be safe and check the closets first LOL, Roush

[Vbgent4u2c]

Oh yes. My heart skipped a few beats then came the adrenaline rush. I glanced at the lady and she had this look of complete shock on her face. So I open the closet and find an older spindly guy inside. Then the lady basically starts screaming at him, so I just left. My guess is he paid her to watch. LOL.


Damn jr would have shrunk up if I heard that sneeze, plus a heart attack, wow, got another freebe a week or so ago trying to keep little one busy with guys she's always needing help, be safe and check the closets first LOL, Roush

[Roush 427]

Oh yes. My heart skipped a few beats then came the adrenaline rush. I glanced at the lady and she had this look of complete shock on her face. So I open the closet and find an older spindly guy inside. Then the lady basically starts screaming at him, so I just left. My guess is he paid her to watch. LOL.What we guys go thru to help these lonely needy ladies out LOL, have fun Roush

[Steveoo41]

I'm in town for the week. Anyone care to trade some #s? I have a few in Richmond I can share.

[Starrman]

Ok, she advertises on craigslist but not much so I'm not sure she is completely UTR. She is in Great Bridge. Black. Probably 25. AWESOME tits. Shaved / trimmed kitty. Good price of. 5 for FS. I only spent about 15 minutes with her, as it had been a week and I didn't have time to stick around for a second pop.

She was sweet and accomodating, but not to the point that I would repeat. For the price, you can't beat it. SM contact for her email.

[Vbgent4u2c]

One is a young (mid-20's) thick black chick. The other is an older (mid-40's) white lady.

Both are very accomadating and reasonable.

SM's and contributors you know what to do.

To the A-hole that thinks my posts are worthless you know what to do too!

[Johnt8]

Screw them idiots and thanks for your contributions.


One is a young (mid-20's) thick black chick. The other is an older (mid-40's) white lady.

Both are very accomadating and reasonable.

SM's and contributors you know what to do.

To the A-hole that thinks my posts are worthless you know what to do too!

[Roush 427]

One is a young (mid-20's) thick black chick. The other is an older (mid-40's) white lady.

Both are very accomadating and reasonable.

SM's and contributors you know what to do.

To the A-hole that thinks my posts are worthless you know what to do too!Tell it like it like it is my friend, have fun I passed on to karma a message from you, she's gettin warmed up LOL Roush

[TheKing]

I finally have a good number for my girl Ashley (Crystal). Senior members can PM me for the info. She's looking good too.

[TigerBlood2349]

UTR she's in her mid 40's but knows how to take care of a guy. I'll trade info if anybody has to trade for another UTR. She is new to the business but not new to the dirty. Seniors and Regulars PM with possible trade thanks.

[Redleg27]

Hi Senior Members

I know a UTR lady looking in the Va Bech Area- she is a hot Italian MILF with awesome titties. She is experienced and not cheap. PM me for details trades appreciated

[Vbgent4u2c]

Good to know. It she is who I think she is she is worth the premium.

Found 2 more this past weekend (haven't seen them yet so not ready to share info).

Just goes to show they are out there.


Hi Senior Members

I know a UTR lady looking in the Va Bech Area- she is a hot Italian MILF with awesome titties. She is experienced and not cheap. PM me for details trades appreciated

[Vbgent4u2c]

Met a very cute, early 30's lady this weekend for a couple hours of fun in a hotel room.

Fun, sexy and very talented. It was more like a date than anything else. Set the whole thing up through FB over a two week period.

They are out there!

[Roush 427]

Met a very cute, early 30's lady this weekend for a couple hours of fun in a hotel room.

Fun, sexy and very talented. It was more like a date than anything else. Set the whole thing up through FB over a two week period.

They are out there!Some to mb for some southern hospitality, LOL Roush

[Vbgent4u2c]

You have plenty down there! Hard enough to find them here without exporting them!


Some to mb for some southern hospitality, LOL Roush

[Roush 427]

You have plenty down there! Hard enough to find them here without exporting them!Blame a guy for asking LOL, have fun guy Roush

[Gscs Ret]

Does anyone have contact info for a provider who will give a reasonably priced BBBJ? I don't want massage ect. I am a senior member in a slump. Have tried the backpage thing but it is pricey for what I need.

[Tiki80]

I finally have a good number for my girl Ashley (Crystal). Senior members can PM me for the info. She's looking good too.Man it's hard to find utr girls. Looks pretty.

[FreeFallin]

I found 36 year old large breasted lady down on her luck and needs some help. PM for details and don't repost her info wants to stay utr. New to the hobby and eager to learn and meet new friends.

[Exacta Picker]

Wow. I've been looking for a reasonably priced lady for some time and finally found one. I can't afford the higher priced goods available on BP and some of the other websites.

This girl is 22, a bit thick but not fat, is no raving beauty but is extremely pleasant, can actually converse and knows her way around a dick. She'd like some new friends so I told her I'd help her out. Senior members only, PM me for details.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Gentlemen,

The lady I posted about in #53 is available again. She ordered more Nuru massage gel and is ready to go.

She can host or travel. Massage, Nuru massage and extras are available. Very sweet lady and very talented!

SM's you know what to do!

[Vbgent4u2c]

Look guys. I don't require that you be a SM to get some info for me, but I do require you be a contributor. So, if you aren't posting you aren't going to get handed any info on these ladies from me. I have worked hard and put a lot of time into finding them so when Joe Schmoe with a total of 9 posts and nothing really useful wants my info I am going to say no.

Following up with another message insulting me, calling me names and bad mouthing the board in general is a good way to NEVER get info from me and possibly other SM's. I forwarded a rather nasty message I received to some of my trusted SM's from such an individual.

We all have the same tools to work with and yes it is tough. But they are out there. Find something and contribute. You will find it works a lot better than being a "cocky" douchebag begging for info then getting pissed off because you get none.

[Johnt8]

Look guys. I don't require that you be a SM to get some info for me, but I do require you be a contributor. So, if you aren't posting you aren't going to get handed any info on these ladies from me. I have worked hard and put a lot of time into finding them so when Joe Schmoe with a total of 9 posts and nothing really useful wants my info I am going to say no.

Following up with another message insulting me, calling me names and bad mouthing the board in general is a good way to NEVER get info from me and possibly other SM's. I forwarded a rather nasty message I received to some of my trusted SM's from such an individual.

We all have the same tools to work with and yes it is tough. But they are out there. Find something and contribute. You will find it works a lot better than being a "cocky" douchebag begging for info then getting pissed off because you get none.Well said. I have passed on a few of the girls that I have visited and information but thankfully haven't had a negative fool on here yet. I like this site and the few people I have dealt with so far. Sorry that happened to you.

[Styx87]

Have a very attractive UTR I've been seeing for 2 months is having major car issues and I help her out. She's very busty and very discreet because she has a girlfriend and lives with her mom. For more info message me I don't care if your new or a SM as long as you have a good trade.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Another reason to cultivate UTR's!

I was seeing very sexy young brunette on a regular basis just about 2 years ago. She was great. Sexy, pretty, luscious body, enjoyed what she did, great personality, et all. She was so good some young stud swooped in and took her away for himself.

Well, apparently that relationship is over so she contacted me out of the blue wanting to get together again.

Best news I have heard in awhile!

[Roush 427]

Another reason to cultivate UTR's!

I was seeing very sexy young brunette on a regular basis just about 2 years ago. She was great. Sexy, pretty, luscious body, enjoyed what she did, great personality, et all. She was so good some young stud swooped in and took her away for himself.

Well, apparently that relationship is over so she contacted me out of the blue wanting to get together again.

Best news I have heard in awhile!Found out 7 or 8 of the gals in mb you seen last year now have little ones and they are looking for you for child support so be careful when you come back to mb, LOL Roush

[Vbgent4u2c]

Found out 7 or 8 of the gals in mb you seen last year now have little ones and they are looking for you for child support so be careful when you come back to mb, LOL RoushHmmm. Since I only saw 2 ladies last visit I think your math is suspect. Or the rest are little Roush's that you are trying to pass on to me! And the little lady I saw swore she was fixed!

I have been reading about your "adventures" in the Adult Book stores. Man, you have balls of solid steel!

[Roush 427]

Hmmm. Since I only saw 2 ladies last visit I think your math is suspect. Or the rest are little Roush's that you are trying to pass on to me! And the little lady I saw swore she was fixed!

I have been reading about your "adventures" in the Adult Book stores. Man, you have balls of solid steel!A tough job but some body has to do it, o yea you know those ladies some times lie a little LOL, just joking there all waiting on you. Roush

[Knoxgeek]

Ho guys:

I am coming into town on Thursday through Monday for business and I would like to inject a little pleasure. If anyone is willing to help me find a nice utr girl for some fun, or has recommendations on a BP girl, I would greatly appreciate it. I was looking at Ariana in Newport News and could find any reviews of her on this site. Any ideas?

[Exacta Picker]

PM me for details.

[FreeFallin]

UTR needs help, she has been talked about on this board. PM me and I will give you her info, SMs only need apply. She is in OV and bring covers so that you won't miss out.

[Viktor Vaughn]

UTR needs help, she has been talked about on this board. PM me and I will give you her info, SMs only need apply. She is in OV and bring covers so that you won't miss out.I'd have to say your UTR my be one of my ATF's. Don't be a villain & help this girl of you can. I think I've had the best experiences with UTR's & I'd like to start cultivating. Can someone please direct me to a primo guide to UTR's thank you. I have a small few to trade, since I'm still pretty new to this area. I like the spinner & GND types. I'm hoping to meet a few in my lane so that I may be of more assistance to the board.

Thank you,

The Villain

[Redleg27]

She is a sweetheart treat her well. Very pretty and nice rack with ink and piercings.


I'd have to say your UTR my be one of my ATF's. Don't be a villain & help this girl of you can. I think I've had the best experiences with UTR's & I'd like to start cultivating. Can someone please direct me to a primo guide to UTR's thank you. I have a small few to trade, since I'm still pretty new to this area. I like the spinner & GND types. I'm hoping to meet a few in my lane so that I may be of more assistance to the board.

Thank you,

The Villain

[FreeFallin]

From one of the other boards with lots of info on Linda. Went and visited with Linda yesterday and she loves what she does. The only way to contact is email and at times is hard to reach, most often from 8:30am to early afternoon visits are avalible. I think that she thinks we are Maxwell house she loves you to the last drop! Large tatas in Norf and look at 757 for info.

[Vbgent4u2c]

She is a sweetheart treat her well. Very pretty and nice rack with ink and piercings.She is a real sweetheart too. Treat her well and she will do the same. Just wished she didn't smoke!

[Vbgent4u2c]

My UTR friend that does massages and nuru is opening up her own little shop in VB.

SM's and contributors you know what to do. Let's help her out during her opening week.

[Tiki80]

She is a real sweetheart too. Treat her well and she will do the same. Just wished she didn't smoke!She is a sweet heart. I will most def see her again. But I'm looking to build my UTR.

[Redleg27]

I can vouch that she is a sweat heart and the real deal treat her well.


My UTR friend that does massages and nuru is opening up her own little shop in VB.

SM's and contributors you know what to do. Let's help her out during her opening week.

[Puvaren]

My UTR friend that does massages and nuru is opening up her own little shop in VB.

SM's and contributors you know what to do. Let's help her out during her opening week.I love this sweetheart of a lady, but just a word to the wise. Don't park in front of the neighbors at her new place. They complained about it, even though I was only 2 spaces over.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I love this sweetheart of a lady, but just a word to the wise. Don't park in front of the neighbors at her new place. They complained about it, even though I was only 2 spaces over.Really? At her business? It was her first day there!

[Puvaren]

Really? At her business? It was her first day there!Exactly. That's why I figured I'd pass on the warning. Plenty of parking in the lot, so I don't see what the issue was.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Exactly. That's why I figured I'd pass on the warning. Plenty of parking in the lot, so I don't see what the issue was.That is not a good sign of things to come.

[Redleg27]

I saw Angie yesterday at her new place- I have seen her many times. I saw no issue with the parking there was lots of space it and safe. It is in an industrial area- she is still building the room. All I can say is enjoy!


That is not a good sign of things to come.

[Jt1195]

My UTR friend that does massages and nuru is opening up her own little shop in VB.

SM's and contributors you know what to do. Let's help her out during her opening week.I would like to check this out Please send me the info.

Thanks

[Tiki80]

I saw Angie yesterday at her new place- I have seen her many times. I saw no issue with the parking there was lots of space it and safe. It is in an industrial area- she is still building the room. All I can say is enjoy!How was the nura? Never try it before thinking about trying it out?

[FreeFallin]

I have a UTR 22yr white with tats and body art that needs some help, she don't need to broke down and low balled, won't do it free. If we have exchanged before contact me and I will provide. Very sweet and pretty and the lights are on.

[Vbgent4u2c]

One older (late 40's early 50's) blond in VB. Not much on the eyes but very reasonable and needs some assistance.

One younger (mid 20's) rough face, but nice body and very tight. You will need a good trade to get this number!

[Jt1195]

I have a UTR 22yr white with tats and body art that needs some help, she don't need to broke down and low balled, won't do it free. If we have exchanged before contact me and I will provide. Very sweet and pretty and the lights are on.She sounds like something I would be looking for. I love the tats and body art. Thanks for any info.

[OdedIsHere]

One of my absolute faves asked me to help her out so I am giving SM's and contributors the chance to get a shot at one of the hottest providers in the area, about 5'3" 135lbs, blue eyes blonde hair and an awesome rack, she has accrued some minimal belly fat but you will not be dissapointed, She doesn't go for cheap just to let you know, I can't really give you a review since I have known her for about 7yrs now but I can say she keeps herself soft and good.

PM me if your interested.

[Exacta Picker]

If any of you SMs still have Jessica's number she's doing incall this morning, probably through the afternoon. Damn good head. I asked why she didn't reply to a couple of texts I had sent her recently and she told me her phone has been in and out due to funding problems. Whatever.

[Tiki80]

Has anyone been able to reach Jenna these pass couple of days? I been trying to reach her and nothing.

[Redleg27]

I chatted via text with her last evening. She has not been feeling well.


Has anyone been able to reach Jenna these pass couple of days? I been trying to reach her and nothing.

[Jimmie301]

I saw her today, she's back and good as new.


I chatted via text with her last evening. She has not been feeling well.

[Geobuck757]

I saw her today, she's back and good as new.Does she do massages?

[Jimmie301]

I don't know but I doubt that she does.


Does she do massages?

[Vbgent4u2c]

Does she do massages?I know from previous experience she gives a pretty good shouler, neck and back rub.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Found a nice MILF type lady. Has a room in Norfolk. Pretty face, nice body (for her age of course) and very skilled.

SM's and contributors you know what to do.

Would be nice if someone had something to trade that isn't psycho. LOL!

[Viktor Vaughn]

Found a nice MILF type lady. Has a room in Norfolk. Pretty face, nice body (for her age of course) and very skilled.

SM's and contributors you know what to do.

Would be nice if someone had something to trade that isn't psycho. LOL!Which ones where the psycho ones? I'm curious.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Which ones where the psycho ones? I'm curious.A fellow monger gave me the number of some psycho blond in the Deep Creek area.

I try and stay away from those kind of ladies.

[Viktor Vaughn]

Gents,

I have an update to share on Jaimee.

As previously reported, I met her on the streets of OV some weeks ago & liked her freaky disposition plus her "Down for Whatever" attitude. That first night I thought she was reasonably attractive, somewhat like the "Noxema Girl" with a habit. I've seen her a few times since that 1st meeting & Its been Hit or Miss. If she wasn't feening for her next fix, she was fun & lively. Didn't watch the clock or try to get more out of me. The one time I could tell she was in need, I got uninspired service so bad that I told myself I was moving on to the next. Well, I just saw her again after some time & I couldn't believe how much worse she looked than the last time. The monkey has superglued itself to her back & is sucking the life out of her. She looked unclean, told me some story about getting a chemical burn during a visit to a spa recently. She was obviouly under the influence & started nodding off while getting her place ready. She even started nodding off while giving me a BBBJ! I couldn't be upset, due to the amazing suction created by her snoring, I had a wicked idea & took out the celly & started snapping pics. She came to and asked me not to take video, just photos. I complied. She'd go in & out intermittenly, not realizing that I'd only gave. 4 for the 15, but I got a 20 mins on the BBBJ & when I was tired of all the strong sleepy suction, we went to the mish, she complained of overwork & asked me not to stretch her legs too much. As a supervillain, I was compelled not to follow her request & went to town. On the way out, I saw a picture of this very pretty girl with a child on the mantel & asked if that was her sister. She said she was a only child & that was a picture of herself just 2 years ago. I left with a villainous smaile on my face. I almost felt bad for her affliction, almost, but I'd have to say that I probably won't be seeing her again. I like a freaky girl with a habit, but hers seems to be so out of control that I started feeling like adding another hat on top of the one I had.

It's not always worth the risk & even a villain knows when to leave well enough alone.

[Exacta Picker]

Hi guys. My UTR in VB is hurting for cash pretty bad and has asked me to have all of you SMs that have her contact info if you might want to see her tonight or tomorrow am. I told her to be more reasonable on the rates.

[Decivus]

I have a UTR in Chesapeake and the Suffolk area if anyone is interested for a trade. Both are white, first is 26 second is late 30's.

[Bocelli111]

Hi guys. My UTR in VB is hurting for cash pretty bad and has asked me to have all of you SMs that have her contact info if you might want to see her tonight or tomorrow am. I told her to be more reasonable on the rates.I'm feeling generous. Can I get her contact info?

[Johnt8]

Found a hot one the other day and willing to share for an exchange. She is in her 20's, about 5'5 and 110 lbs. B cups and a hot little ass to boot. Would prefer to share her for similar. SM's only need to contact and I will give you her number. Very discrete location that she is in as well.

[Viktor Vaughn]

Gents,

I'd like a respected member to clarify the definition of what a UTR really is again. I know the original OP stated it at the beginning of the thread, but lately I've been hit up with trade requests from members who offer girls who are 1. Well known or post frequently on sites 2. Girls who don't post on sites because they wouldn't get business if they did (horrible experience) please only offer to trade if you've actually had an experience with the girl, she's truly under the radar not someone already on BP or reviewed on oThER boards & actually has all the equipment a woman should. That is all & thank you for sharing, I'll be sure to do the same.

The villain

[Vbgent4u2c]

UTR means exactly that."Under The Radar" meaning that they aren't posting on BP or any of the other sites. They are found through unconventional means such as in a store, at a club / bar or a football game. These are all places I have found them. I recently found a lady that posted 6 months or so ago on BP. Since her ad still came up when you googled her phone number I didn't define her as a UTR. I also came across a young, single mom in a supermarket that obviously needed help which I would define as a UTR.

Like I said before. These ladies are alot harder to find but generally are worth the extra effort when you do find them.


Gents,

I'd like a respected member to clarify the definition of what a UTR really is again. I know the original OP stated it at the beginning of the thread, but lately I've been hit up with trade requests from members who offer girls who are 1. Well known or post frequently on sites 2. Girls who don't post on sites because they wouldn't get business if they did (horrible experience) please only offer to trade if you've actually had an experience with the girl, she's truly under the radar not someone already on BP or reviewed on oThER boards & actually has all the equipment a woman should. That is all & thank you for sharing, I'll be sure to do the same.

The villain

[Roush 427]

UTR means exactly that."Under The Radar" meaning that they aren't posting on BP or any of the other sites. They are found through unconventional means such as in a store, at a club / bar or a football game. These are all places I have found them. I recently found a lady that posted 6 months or so ago on BP. Since her ad still came up when you googled her phone number I didn't define her as a UTR. I also came across a young, single mom in a supermarket that obviously needed help which I would define as a UTR.

Like I said before. These ladies are alot harder to find but generally are worth the extra effort when you do find them.You are the king of utr my friend, enjoy and have fun as always, just sayin Roush

[Viktor Vaughn]

UTR means exactly that."Under The Radar" meaning that they aren't posting on BP or any of the other sites. They are found through unconventional means such as in a store, at a club / bar or a football game. These are all places I have found them. I recently found a lady that posted 6 months or so ago on BP. Since her ad still came up when you googled her phone number I didn't define her as a UTR. I also came across a young, single mom in a supermarket that obviously needed help which I would define as a UTR.

Like I said before. These ladies are alot harder to find but generally are worth the extra effort when you do find them.I'd like to ask a favor. If you ever have the time, could you (or anyone else who's had success) write us a brief FAQ on how to meet & cultivate true UTR's. How to spot a prospect, how to approach, with examples of best practices & past experiences?

You sir are on to something great here. I for one would love to see this grow.

A respectful Villain

[TheKing]

I would love a little advise on UTRs.

[Mr Cookie]

I can't imagine how you go from bumping into a stranger and having her become a UTR in one conversation. Gota be some delicate, smooth talk going on.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I'd like to ask a favor. If you ever have the time, could you (or anyone else who's had success) write us a brief FAQ on how to meet & cultivate true UTR's. How to spot a prospect, how to approach, with examples of best practices & past experiences?

You sir are on to something great here. I for one would love to see this grow.

A respectful VillainI wrote a pretty detailed instruction and sent it to a monger in another city. I will see if I still have it and then post it.

Until then here are a few quick tips.

1. You are going to strike out most of the time so if you are not prepared for her saying "No thanks!" then don't even bother.

2. It all starts with eye contact. Find a lady that is by herself (doesn't work well if her BF / Hubby is around) and make eye contact with her, then if she returns the eye contact strike up a conversation. If she engages in a conversation then ask her if she would like to go get a drink or coffee afterwards to talk more privately. If she says she can't then ask for her number so you can call her later.

3. If she accepts the invite during the drink or even while you are driving somewhere to get a drink her "story" will come out. Single mom, short on rent, car payment due, BF kicked her out, tuition and books are due, etc. Once the issue is uncovered suggest to her how you can help her out.

Readers digest version but it works.

The best one recently was the lady in the discount store. Our first conversation was about Halloween costumes. Less then 24 hours later I was having my way with one of the hottest young ladies I ever met.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I can't imagine how you go from bumping into a stranger and having her become a UTR in one conversation. Gota be some delicate, smooth talk going on.Not really. The key is finding the one that is in need. The rest is actually pretty easy as long as you don't look like an ogre.

[Vbgent4u2c]

You are the king of utr my friend, enjoy and have fun as always, just sayin RoushYes, but it is a far second to your Adult Video Store exploits. Balls of steel!

You know our little lady moved to NY right?

[Roush 427]

Yes, but it is a far second to your Adult Video Store exploits. Balls of steel!

You know our little lady moved to NY right?That she met here is sad and blue for sure, just sayin Roush

[Viktor Vaughn]

She's got a new number & is looking for a few good SM's. If I've traded her number with you before. PM me.

The villain

[Viktor Vaughn]

Gents,

I've had a few experiences in the last few days, started a post on it & lost it. I'll get to that, I promise.

I need to update my thoughts on Jamie. Last time a saw her was a few weeks ago & she looked bad. Told me some story about getting a back face peel or something at a spa. I hadn't heard from her & tonight I get a text from a new number saying its her. With la familia de DOOM absoluta out of town, I had the opportunity to host her in my own setting. I had told myself that I was done, but she was fun before & I gave her another shot. So glad I did. I've learned the hard way not to get too descriptive of my adventures in the open forum due to some brethren distorting my honest words to some UTR's I passed them. So the short version goes as follows.

I pick her up & the first thing I notice is how clear her face got. She actually looked more the the cute girl I found at first. Much healthier. When asked where she's been, she told me out of town for a few weeks. We get comfortable with chat & drinks, head to the shower & I wash her up, I pull out my bag of evil contraptions & oils of no good & she goes in on some really good BBBJ, DATY and mish to doggie to sidewinder. She's really DFWE & extra DKN I enjoyed it immensely. We then drive to Greece for a really hard charging CIG with CP while I took some photos. Probably the best time I've had with her. I think she's in a cleaner place at the moment & she said she needed some help for some time sensitive issues. We brainstormed and came up with an opportunity that she wants to share with just a few SM or members who come highly recommended that are free today & tomorrow until around 1630. PM me for details & SMs that I trust & have shared with PM me for more details of this mornings encounter.

The Illest Villain.

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[Richmond Mas]

Not really. The key is finding the one that is in need. The rest is actually pretty easy as long as you don't look like an ogre.It sounds easy, but I often find it difficult to transit from her need of cash to sex. For example, there was this pretty red head drive thru girl from Long John Silver told me her BF kicked her out and now she was looking for a place to stay and she doesn't have much money until payday. How do you go about asking her if she needed this 150 and all I want in return is a BBBJ for example. That's the part I have problem with.

[Viktor Vaughn]

It sounds easy, but I often find it difficult to transit from her need of cash to sex. For example, there was this pretty red head drive thru girl from Long John Silver told me her BF kicked her out and now she was looking for a place to stay and she doesn't have much money until payday. How do you go about asking her if she needed this 150 and all I want in return is a BBBJ for example. That's the part I have problem with.I second this.

I've spent many a night in the DOOM cave, thinking of a master plan, there ain't nothing but sweat inside my hand. Trying to find the right combination of words to take a girl with no prior history to the life & walking her down the path of villainy subtly, without coming off as a Virginia Slim impersonator. I find the most success with ones who carry monkey's in their handbags. I'd like a class Professor.

[Scorpio22]

It sounds easy, but I often find it difficult to transit from her need of cash to sex. For example, there was this pretty red head drive thru girl from Long John Silver told me her BF kicked her out and now she was looking for a place to stay and she doesn't have much money until payday. How do you go about asking her if she needed this 150 and all I want in return is a BBBJ for example. That's the part I have problem with.First of all you should be asking for everything for 150, that's wayyyy to much for just a BJ that you don't know will be good or not. Assuming your single all you probably had to say was that you had an extra room you could set her up in in exchange for housework etc, then proposition her after a couple of days after she was comfortable, if shacking up with you isn't an option you could just tell her you could have some work for her; give her your email then tell her what the deal is and just be bold with it, just put it out there saying something like "you wouldn't get offended If I offered you some money to take care me would you" you have nothing to lose and ass to gain.

[Richmond Mas]

First of all you should be asking for everything for 150, that's wayyyy to much for just a BJ that you don't know will be good or not. Assuming your single all you probably had to say was that you had an extra room you could set her up in in exchange for housework etc, then proposition her after a couple of days after she was comfortable, if shacking up with you isn't an option you could just tell her you could have some work for her; give her your email then tell her what the deal is and just be bold with it, just put it out there saying something like "you wouldn't get offended If I offered you some money to take care me would you" you have nothing to lose and ass to gain.Thank for the info. As for 150, that's just an example. I pay 150 for FS with some nice looking spinners. For BBBJ, I normally pay. 8. Unfortunately I am not able to host, but would definatelly put her in a motel for a night or two.

But you did give me a line to use,"you wouldn't get offended If I offered you some money to take care me would you". I think I used it once to that effect and one girl said what do you mean by taking care of you? And I chickened out and ended up letting her clean around the warehouse for me. Maybe I need to be more bold next time around. It's not like calling an escort service.

[Vbgent4u2c]

And I chickened out and ended up letting her clean around the warehouse for me. Maybe I need to be more bold next time around. It's not like calling an escort service.First of all I would not even talk about $. This will most likely put her on the defensive right away as she will think you take her for a common street working girl and not a young lady down on her luck. Second, again if you can't take the rejection you might as well not even go this route. Most will reject you. Especially at first! Be surprised how many come around to your way of thinking over time.

What I do is listen intently to her story. Especially the details. This way you can easily figure out if she is BSing you or not. Most are not. They are really just in a bad situation and need some help. Once you hear her story you can offer your assistance. Again. Don't talk $. Just let her know you are there and can help. She will then tell you what she needs / wants.

Once you know what she wants you simply tell her "Well I can help you out and would be glad to do it. What do you think you can do for me?" Her response will dictate what happens next. Most of these ladies aren't stupid or very naive. So if she is in the car with you or at a hotel room with you she pretty much knows what happens next. The most common response is "Well, what do you want?" Then you just basically tell her what you want.

Yes, it is that simple. Again as long as you don't look like an ogre or act like a jerk you will most likely get what you want.

Once it happens I would suggest taking advantage of the situation as much as possible because one thing I know for sure is these hotties don't stay around long, but then 2 more are right around the corner.

[Richmond Mas]

First of all I would not even talk about $. This will most likely put her on the defensive right away as she will think you take her for a common street working girl and not a young lady down on her luck. Second, again if you can't take the rejection you might as well not even go this route. Most will reject you. Especially at first! Be surprised how many come around to your way of thinking over time.Great Lesson from Vbgent. I need to change the mind set. One says no the other will be yes next.

[OldPapa]

Great Lesson from Vbgent. I need to change the mind set. One says no the other will be yes next.Thank you Vbgent! I have learned a lot from this thread and am kicking myself at all the missed opportunities in my lifetime! I can think of 6-8 off the top of my head! One time in my single days an acquaintance had me pick up his lady friend and let her stay overnight. She wanted to sleep in my bed and walked around in bra and panties. I should have used my Monger mindset and done the good deed, but I gave her the bed and took the couch. I am bound and chained now so the motel thing is a great option. With that and the key words you so eloquently stated I am now armed and dangerous! Thank you gentlemen!

[Richmond Mas]

Thank you Vbgent! I have learned a lot from this thread and am kicking myself at all the missed opportunities in my lifetime! I can think of 6-8 off the top of my head! One time in my single days an acquaintance had me pick up his lady friend and let her stay overnight. She wanted to sleep in my bed and walked around in bra and panties. I should have used my Monger mindset and done the good deed, but I gave her the bed and took the couch. I am bound and chained now so the motel thing is a great option. With that and the key words you so eloquently stated I am now armed and dangerous! Thank you gentlemen!That being said, I wonder where are good places to pick up girls like these. Of course I can wait until something comes up or I can go out and seek. They do say seek and you will find.

[Boss302]

Business takes me to the Tidewater area about once a month. Like to find some UTR lady to make my short stays a little more enjoyable. I have 2 UTR friends that said I could share their numbers. I am in the Northern Va area.

[Vbgent4u2c]

That being said, I wonder where are good places to pick up girls like these. Of course I can wait until something comes up or I can go out and seek. They do say seek and you will find.

This is an easy one. They are all over the place. The key is finding one that is alone (preferably) or with her kids and look for signs of distress. The first UTR lady I ever met was in her car parked at a supermarket and crying her eyes out. Very hot 22 year old blond. I noticed she had a toddler in the back seat and I asked if there was anything wrong. She at first said "No, I'm good.", but with a little more persistence she told me her story.

Hubby deployed, not sending any $ home, she hasn't ate in 2 days and her baby hadn't eaten that day and it was noon. Exhausted any resources with family, friends and military. She just tried to buy $60 worth of groceries and her credit card was declined and the store wouldn't take a check. So I took her back in the store, bought the groceries and she invited me back to her apt for lunch.

Ended up seeing her for 2 years.

Most of the UTR ladies I have met I was not actually looking for them, but then again I am always looking for an opportunity to approach one.

[Richmond Mas]

This is an easy one. They are all over the place. The key is finding one that is alone (preferably) or with her kids and look for signs of distress. The first UTR lady I ever met was in her car parked at a supermarket and crying her eyes out. Very hot 22 year old blond. I noticed she had a toddler in the back seat and I asked if there was anything wrong. She at first said "No, I'm good.", but with a little more persistence she told me her story.

Hubby deployed, not sending any $ home, she hasn't ate in 2 days and her baby hadn't eaten that day and it was noon. Exhausted any resources with family, friends and military. She just tried to buy $60 worth of groceries and her credit card was declined and the store wouldn't take a check. So I took her back in the store, bought the groceries and she invited me back to her apt for lunch.

Ended up seeing her for 2 years.

Most of the UTR ladies I have met I was not actually looking for them, but then again I am always looking for an opportunity to approach one.I had a few came my way but too dumb to take advantage of it. I think we just have to keep out eyes open. You just never know what comes your way. Your example is a good one although something this good never come my way, I will be looking though.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I had a few came my way but too dumb to take advantage of it. I think we just have to keep out eyes open. You just never know what comes your way. Your example is a good one although something this good never come my way, I will be looking though.It all starts with some eye contact then a conversation. You will be surprised where some of them lead.

[ZenExecutive]

I found a nice single 30 something mom (kids are in school) that could use some extra cash. She is currently living in a hotel off of Shore Drive. She is very clean, a little MILF baby fat, and has a nice trimmed pussy with a landing strip. She also has a boyfriend so you have to be discrete. I told her I would help her out by sending contact info to a few others. Seniors and contributors only please.

[Gscs Ret]

Met a very sexy blonde girl from Portsmouth in her 20's that needs some help. Her and her man are out of work and are trying to keep their mobile home. Her man knows what she does and is very cool. She has a smoking body and gives great head. She hosts. Well worth the visit. Senior members contact me for her email.

[Richmond Mas]

It all starts with some eye contact then a conversation. You will be surprised where some of them lead.Trying it out. Went to Wal-Mart today and tried the eye contact thing. Had a few smiles back. Nothing good yet, but it is coming.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Trying it out. Went to Wal-Mart today and tried the eye contact thing. Had a few smiles back. Nothing good yet, but it is coming.I have had good success in the place you mention. With the holidays around the corner I expect several more ladies to jump in the game.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Was out at a shopping center close to the oceanfront and as I was going into a store there was a very good looking young lady walking very slowly a few stores down. She had a look of desperation as she was carrying a couple bags and a back pack. I changed my direction to approach her face to face and said Hello to her. She took a few steps and then said "Excuse me sir. Do you have a minute?" I'm thinking BINGO BONGO BIG TIME! This might be the find of the year.

She gives me the story. BF kicked her out. Trying to get enough $ to buy a bus ticket back home to NJ. Really needs a place to stay, etc. Asked if I could get a room for her and $20 toward her bus ticket which she said was $80.

I told her I would be glad to help her and I had a place not too far away where we could talk about it in more detail. She just smiled (she knew where I was coming from) and asked for the $. I again re-iterated about going to my car. No deal. She just wants the $. I then said OK I will get you a room (she was very hot and very pretty). So again motioned toward the car. She came back saying she has an I'd. Just needs the cash for the room. I told her my final offer was the room and $20 for the ticket but she would have to go with me.

She then slowly walked away and ran her game on the next guy.

[Richmond Mas]

Was out at a shopping center close to the oceanfront and as I was going into a store there was a very good looking young lady walking very slowly a few stores down. She had a look of desperation as she was carrying a couple bags and a back pack. I changed my direction to approach her face to face and said Hello to her. She took a few steps and then said "Excuse me sir. Do you have a minute?" I'm thinking BINGO BONGO BIG TIME! This might be the find of the year.

She gives me the story. BF kicked her out. Trying to get enough $ to buy a bus ticket back home to NJ. Really needs a place to stay, etc. Asked if I could get a room for her and $20 toward her bus ticket which she said was $80.

I told her I would be glad to help her and I had a place not too far away where we could talk about it in more detail. She just smiled (she knew where I was coming from) and asked for the $. I again re-iterated about going to my car. No deal. She just wants the $. I then said OK I will get you a room (she was very hot and very pretty). So again motioned toward the car. She came back saying she has an I'd. Just needs the cash for the room. I told her my final offer was the room and $20 for the ticket but she would have to go with me.

She then slowly walked away and ran her game on the next guy.All I got are some big girls smiling back at the moment. Might have to try some women shelter.

[Vbgent4u2c]

All I got are some big girls smiling back at the moment. Might have to try some women shelter.Once you get a smile back you need to start a conversation by saying Hello to her or ask her how she is doing. She is not going to walk up to you most of the time.

[FreeFallin]

I had a great time with A* and want to thank 2 sm. Don't contact me for info contact sm for a trade. Great massage and service. Really cute and I will return. Perfect location very private, no idea on the time frame I was with her and she could hold a conversation and more then her hands have great skill. I would return just for the massage alone.

Happy Thanksgiving

[OldPapa]

Was in the grocery store yesterday and ran in to a possible UTR. She couldn't afford all her groceries. So I was a gentlemen and added her groceries to my bill. They packed her groceries in my bag so I had to walk with her to her car and separate her groceries. Made some small talk and she said thank you, etc. Then she followed up with,"how ever can I repay you". I told her that I didn't know and ask for her digits. She got mine and called me late last night. I was knocked out so I missed the call. I need some help on how to pursue this. I will call her back. I just don't know how to go from thank you to a BBBJ and FS. She is a blondish brunette (highlights and such) in her mid 20's nice body (a little more stomach than I prefer, but makes it up with a nice rack). So, group I need to give her a call. What should I say?

[Vbgent4u2c]

Was in the grocery store yesterday and ran in to a possible UTR. She couldn't afford all her groceries. So I was a gentlemen and added her groceries to my bill. They packed her groceries in my bag so I had to walk with her to her car and separate her groceries. Made some small talk and she said thank you, etc. Then she followed up with,"how ever can I repay you". I told her that I didn't know and ask for her digits. She got mine and called me late last night. I was knocked out so I missed the call. I need some help on how to pursue this. I will call her back. I just don't know how to go from thank you to a BBBJ and FS. She is a blondish brunette (highlights and such) in her mid 20's nice body (a little more stomach than I prefer, but makes it up with a nice rack). So, group I need to give her a call. What should I say?Damn dude. When she said "However can I repay you" that was your cue! Should have asked her if she was available right then to go somewhere more private or go back to her place or your place.

The good news is she is certainly going to need more help and I am pretty sure she is open to just about anything or she would never have mentioned repaying you. She would have just left it at thank you and then drove away.

The bad news is you are probably going to have to shell out more $ for food or car payment or rent or whatever in order to see her again. This time when you help her out make sure you have a place that you can take her to have some privacy.

If you don't know what to do at that point then the UTR route is not for you.

[OldPapa]

Damn dude. When she said "However can I repay you" that was your cue! Should have asked her if she was available right then to go somewhere more private or go back to her place or your place.

The good news is she is certainly going to need more help and I am pretty sure she is open to just about anything or she would never have mentioned repaying you. She would have just left it at thank you and then drove away.

The bad news is you are probably going to have to shell out more $ for food or car payment or rent or whatever in order to see her again. This time when you help her out make sure you have a place that you can take her to have some privacy.

If you don't know what to do at that point then the UTR route is not for you.Thanks guy, I think I have a plan. I will report my updates. I have to tread litely cause of the whole ball and chain thing. Unlikely a provider I actually have to divulge some information about myself.

[Madaboutmax]

Was in the grocery store yesterday and ran in to a possible UTR. She couldn't afford all her groceries. So I was a gentlemen and added her groceries to my bill. They packed her groceries in my bag so I had to walk with her to her car and separate her groceries. Made some small talk and she said thank you, etc. Then she followed up with,"how ever can I repay you". I told her that I didn't know and ask for her digits. She got mine and called me late last night. I was knocked out so I missed the call. I need some help on how to pursue this. I will call her back. I just don't know how to go from thank you to a BBBJ and FS. She is a blondish brunette (highlights and such) in her mid 20's nice body (a little more stomach than I prefer, but makes it up with a nice rack). So, group I need to give her a call. What should I say?Next time you talk to her, if she asks how she can repay you again, tell her you have ideas, but don't want to get slapped.

Other variations could be:

- an attractive young woman like you gives me ideas.

- I have ideas, but don't want to get in trouble.

- I have ideas, but don't want to offend you.

- etc.

You will know by her reaction. If she asks to know more about your ideas your in. Indicate your ideas involve both of you being naked or alone or whatever seems best.

The key is to be humorous, but always a gentlemen.

Max

[Colorado State]

Was in the grocery store yesterday and ran in to a possible UTR. She couldn't afford all her groceries. So I was a gentlemen and added her groceries to my bill. They packed her groceries in my bag so I had to walk with her to her car and separate her groceries. Made some small talk and she said thank you, etc. Then she followed up with,"how ever can I repay you". I told her that I didn't know and ask for her digits. She got mine and called me late last night. I was knocked out so I missed the call. I need some help on how to pursue this. I will call her back. I just don't know how to go from thank you to a BBBJ and FS. She is a blondish brunette (highlights and such) in her mid 20's nice body (a little more stomach than I prefer, but makes it up with a nice rack). So, group I need to give her a call. What should I say?Just don't be shy and don't wait for her to make the moves. You got her on the line already so just reel her in. Make sure you have a place to go, drinks, protection, and some Vitamin V, etc etc. Have the time of your life and it is up to you to make it a GFE.

Make sure U stay in control of it too. You have the dough!

[Richmond Mas]

Damn dude. When she said "However can I repay you" that was your cue! Should have asked her if she was available right then to go somewhere more private or go back to her place or your place.Before I read the UTR girls pick up help here, this happened to me and I didn't know what to say. Since then nothing comes my way.

There is this 50 something year old lady with a sexy body and nice face approached me one day to ask me how much do I think an antique paint set is worth. Of course I have no idea how much it is worth, so I said, I don't know. She was delivering a part to me, so we chat a bit and I asked why she wants to sell this antique. She said she needs the money to pay a fine- traffic ticket, and would need it by the end of this week. I was dumb as a brick and told her that I wish she could sell this soon and get some money for her fine.

Just to say, one has to be always alert because something like this does not come by often. Since then she no longer works for the company, and I cannot locate her.

I don't know if anyone of you can give me some advise on this situation. I met young girls who works at Taco Bell drive thru. She is around 18. I told her she is so pretty that I have to eat at this Taco Bell everyday, so I can see her. She said I made her blush and proceeded to flirt with me some. Now, I am way too old for this 18 year old beauty. Don't want to sound like an old pervert. If you are young, you are cool, but if you are old you are a pervert.

She is still working there, so I wonder what is the best approach as I am old enough to be her grandfather.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I don't know if anyone of you can give me some advise on this situation. I met young girls who works at Taco Bell drive thru. She is around 18. I told her she is so pretty that I have to eat at this Taco Bell everyday, so I can see her. She said I made her blush and proceeded to flirt with me some. Now, I am way too old for this 18 year old beauty. Don't want to sound like an old pervert. If you are young, you are cool, but if you are old you are a pervert.

She is still working there, so I wonder what is the best approach as I am old enough to be her grandfather.This is easy. Buy her a gift card at store or mall for like $20. Next time you use the drive thru give it to her and wish her Happy Holidays. Make sure you put your cell number on the From / To box. I am betting she will call you or text you thanking you for the card. Voila. You have her number and now you can start texting her and find out if she needs anything.

If not you will at least get a big smile from her the next few times she sees you.

If you can't bring yourself to do it PM me her name and which Taco Bell it is she works.

[Geobuck757]

This is easy. Buy her a gift card at store or mall for like $20. Next time you use the drive thru give it to her and wish her Happy Holidays. Make sure you put your cell number on the From / To box. I am betting she will call you or text you thanking you for the card. Voila. You have her number and now you can start texting her and find out if she needs anything.

If not you will at least get a big smile from her the next few times she sees you.

If you can't bring yourself to do it PM me her name and which Taco Bell it is she works.I bet $25 Victoria secret gift card would do the trick.

[Richmond Mas]

This is easy. Buy her a gift card at store or mall for like $20. Next time you use the drive thru give it to her and wish her Happy Holidays. Make sure you put your cell number on the From / To box. I am betting she will call you or text you thanking you for the card. Voila. You have her number and now you can start texting her and find out if she needs anything.

If not you will at least get a big smile from her the next few times she sees you.

If you can't bring yourself to do it PM me her name and which Taco Bell it is she works.Thanks, I will try that. I am just no pro on these UTRaopproaches. Hopefully I will learn the rope one day and have a keen eye on things to come.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Just saw Angie and she is running a great Christmas relaXation eXtravaganza!

Easily the best deal in the area.

For those SM's and contributors that don't know her already you know what to do.

[OldPapa]

Saw Angie yesterday. She was late to the location but was very accommodating and apologetic. She started things off with a oil message which was quite good. She definitely worked out the kinks in the old back. Body to body with those nice D cups felt great. She is a sexy BBW. On the flip. Great massage and body to body. The little man was feeling her slide so he wanted some action. She give a great BBBJ to stiffen things up more. Cover went on an she started with CG. Popping those hips. Moved into K9 then Mish. Stopped to give another BBBJ. Another cover went on and went into Mish and kissing. Right before the explosion she took to the cover off and ended with a BBBJCIM, and took every last drop. Awesome finish, she made sure the sacks were completely empty. Great GFE, and she is really nice overall. I will be repeating.

[Johnt8]

If any of you SM's have a girl that needs some extra this time of the year let me know. Willing to give a great amount of gifts out for a good time. Please pm me if you do. I leave reviews here all the time and can share a few numbers myself.

[FreeFallin]

Jenna has a new number and is looking for some help for Christmas. PM for number.

[Bb2011]

Before I read the UTR girls pick up help here, this happened to me and I didn't know what to say. Since then nothing comes my way.

There is this 50 something year old lady with a sexy body and nice face approached me one day to ask me how much do I think an antique paint set is worth. Of course I have no idea how much it is worth, so I said, I don't know. She was delivering a part to me, so we chat a bit and I asked why she wants to sell this antique. She said she needs the money to pay a fine- traffic ticket, and would need it by the end of this week. I was dumb as a brick and told her that I wish she could sell this soon and get some money for her fine.

Just to say, one has to be always alert because something like this does not come by often. Since then she no longer works for the company, and I cannot locate her.

I don't know if anyone of you can give me some advise on this situation. I met young girls who works at Taco Bell drive thru. She is around 18. I told her she is so pretty that I have to eat at this Taco Bell everyday, so I can see her. She said I made her blush and proceeded to flirt with me some. Now, I am way too old for this 18 year old beauty. Don't want to sound like an old pervert. If you are young, you are cool, but if you are old you are a pervert.

She is still working there, so I wonder what is the best approach as I am old enough to be her grandfather.Any luck? Which store is she at? B

[Reelcool]

Jenna has a new number and is looking for some help for Christmas. PM for number.Hey what up, New to the area (theewater area) , been here about 4months, needs 411 for DT, $ does someone have a recommendation?

[Tiki80]

Jenna has a new number and is looking for some help for Christmas. PM for number.Man that's why I got nothing back. Crap hope she texts me soon

[RichmondDude]

I'm from Richmond, will be at ocean front hotel sat night. Looking for a good time, any info would be greatly appreciated, you ever in 804 are I can hook you up.

[OdedIsHere]

Saw heather last night, she has hazel eyes, some big lips (although no kissing) , brown nicely kept hair, nice ass, not a spinner but not really big either. She liked to talk for a few which I didn't mind because I was warming up the room anyway. Talked chit-chat for a bit then had some fun. Kept it quick but not a clock watcher at all. $ was the damage, she stays in the OV shore drive area.

[Beachj]

Was at the kempsville 7-11 girl was sitting there asked what was wrong. Her bf kicked her ojt. Need money for room or ride. Pm for name. Took to her friends.

Stopped for fun in car BBBJ DATY she moved on top I had covers. On top then doggy in back swat. All in parking lot. Felt sixteen with windows fogged. Looks 7 skills 8. Got number. Willing to share

[Beachj]

Found a gal at the kempsvile 7-11. She needed a ride.

Herbcf dumped her. Could be a tail but shw was cute.

Anyway drove her near a friends. Bbvj, DATY mis then dog. Have number to trade

[AlexR31]

Found a gal at the kempsvile 7-11. She needed a ride.

Herbcf dumped her. Could be a tail but shw was cute.

Anyway drove her near a friends. Bbvj, DATY mis then dog. Have number to tradeHey Beachj,

I sent you a PM with info

Alex

[Abcdefg1950]

Tried to see Jenna the other day but not sure what happened. Exchanged a few texts the day before to set up a morning meeting but then all communication stopped. Not sure if she spooked or what. Maybe another time.

[KanKan]

Found a hot number in VB ready to please.

Willingly to trade for quality finds in turn. New profile as the battle ax has found the old one.

PMs welcome from all new one old members alike if you have something to trade.

[Badboy757]

Guys,

Recently, I have begun placing a simple ad on Craigslist under the M4W section. I don't hide the fact I am looking for a Sugar Babe and the response has been very good. Don't be surprised if your favorite waitress or bank teller replies. Use your own wording and state your own desires. My sample ad is as follows:

I would like to have a fun relationship with a younger woman. You can be a student or career woman, married or single, who would be interested in exploring this kind of relationship. If you respond, I would appreciate a picture and a brief introduction. I'm an educated, successful, mature and considered good looking; single, local businessman. Please be local to the Tidewater area. To avoid spam, I request you put " Dollar Bill" in the title line.

Thanks!

[Vbgent4u2c]

Guys,

Recently, I have begun placing a simple ad on Craigslist under the M4W section. I don't hide the fact I am looking for a Sugar Babe and the response has been very good. Don't be surprised if your favorite waitress or bank teller replies. Use your own wording and state your own desires. My sample ad is as follows:

I would like to have a fun relationship with a younger woman. You can be a student or career woman, married or single, who would be interested in exploring this kind of relationship. If you respond, I would appreciate a picture and a brief introduction. I'm an educated, successful, mature and considered good looking; single, local businessman. Please be local to the Tidewater area. To avoid spam, I request you put " Dollar Bill" in the title line. Thanks!This is a good way to meet some potential UTR's. Only problem is digging through all the spam you get. I have used a similar method with some pretty good success.

[OldPapa]

Was at the kempsville 7-11 girl was sitting there asked what was wrong. Her bf kicked her ojt. Need money for room or ride. Pm for name. Took to her friends.

Stopped for fun in car BBBJ DATY she moved on top I had covers. On top then doggy in back swat. All in parking lot. Felt sixteen with windows fogged. Looks 7 skills 8. Got number. Willing to shareI am continuing to do my UTR research. How did the story play out? Was she just standing there? Did you approach her? How did you get her to do the do? Did she ask for a donation? I am trying to have the same run in experience. Any pointers will be helpful and appreciated.

[KanKan]

Pm me for info.

Blond early 40s.

In need of help.

Must have something quality to trade.

[KanKan]

My utr blonde still looking for help pm me ASAP.

[Beachj]

Hey,

I posted a couple of weeks ago about a UTR named Maria. Yes had some fun with her and she was clean and hot. I got a lot of feedback. But I got the flu and then Well the UTR tried to become OTR. That is why I didn't respond to emails. The girl needs help every every day. I told her I'm DL and yet would call at obvious times. Yeah I didn't use my brain and use my fake phone, but trust me as hot as she might be its not worth the 3 times a day call asking for "help". I am sorry for letting people think I found a UTR, but I figure its better to have a couple of weeks go so you don't give a number to a gal who will call you about 5 times a day.

Sorry,

J

[Richmond Mas]

Posting my first UTR encounter today. Cold as hell and this 20 some year old spinner and her 2 infants were standing on the side of the crub. I am now on the lookout for needy girls, so I can offer my help as pointed out by VBgent and all.

Step on the break and back up to her spot asked if she needs a ride. She said sure as it is ice cold today, and to be real too cold for the babies. I jump out and help her with her two young ones and fold the stroller away.

After she step into my suv, I tried to help her to get the babies positions and touch her legs and waist. She does not move away. I thought hell that's good. After we drive the the road, I make some small talk and eventally ask if she needs money to get by. She says yes, and she doesn't have a job now. So I offer this girl a Grant to really help her out. She says fine. I ask her if she won't mind doing something for me just like the instruction mention here. She asks what I wanted. After a few run around and she acts dumb, I finally say- how about a BJ? She says she cannot do that. I then ask if she mind doing just a hand job. She said no.

I took her to her location which is a soup kitchen. I ask again if she would consider the cash which could help her. She say she does not need it.

Well, so much for the UTL pick up. First attempt, but have not given up yet.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Well, I would have played this differently. She obviously won't do anything with her babies in the car. I would have asked her if she had someone to watch them for an hour or so. Then see what she said. I also would have tried to get some sort of contact info so you can follow up with her from time to time. She might not have been very motivated today, but next week or next month she might be very motivated to help you out.

I also said that when you offer a ride to a lady. That might be all that happens. This happened to me a few times, most of them short rides. Once I gave this very sexy AA chick wearing a leg cast a ride from 17th street all the way to Downtown Ptown because my monger radar was pinging like crazy. Once we got to her place she just thanked me for the ride and started to get out. I then asked her for her cell number and she said she doesn't it give her number to strangers? LOL!

It happens.


Posting my first UTR encounter today. Cold as hell and this 20 some year old spinner and her 2 infants were standing on the side of the crub. I am now on the lookout for needy girls, so I can offer my help as pointed out by VBgent and all.

Step on the break and back up to her spot asked if she needs a ride. She said sure as it is ice cold today, and to be real too cold for the babies. I jump out and help her with her two young ones and fold the stroller away.

After she step into my suv, I tried to help her to get the babies positions and touch her legs and waist. She does not move away. I thought hell that's good. After we drive the the road, I make some small talk and eventally ask if she needs money to get by. She says yes, and she doesn't have a job now. So I offer this girl a Grant to really help her out. She says fine. I ask her if she won't mind doing something for me just like the instruction mention here. She asks what I wanted. After a few run around and she acts dumb, I finally say- how about a BJ? She says she cannot do that. I then ask if she mind doing just a hand job. She said no.

I took her to her location which is a soup kitchen. I ask again if she would consider the cash which could help her. She say she does not need it.

Well, so much for the UTL pick up. First attempt, but have not given up yet.

[Richmond Mas]

Well, I would have played this differently. She obviously won't do anything with her babies in the car. I would have asked her if she had someone to watch them for an hour or so. Then see what she said. I also would have tried to get some sort of contact info so you can follow up with her from time to time. She might not have been very motivated today, but next week or next month she might be very motivated to help you out.

I also said that when you offer a ride to a lady. That might be all that happens. This happened to me a few times, most of them short rides. Once I gave this very sexy AA chick wearing a leg cast a ride from 17th street all the way to Downtown Ptown because my monger radar was pinging like crazy. Once we got to her place she just thanked me for the ride and started to get out. I then asked her for her cell number and she said she doesn't it give her number to strangers? LOL!

It happens.Good advice. Next time.

[WhiteFblk7411]

All,

I am new on here but I am looking for a regular friend I can see from time to time. I prefer black girls that are skinny and don't mind BBBJCIM. If you have anyone that fits the bill and is in need drop me a line, thanks!

[Scorpio22]

Haven't had a white woman in a while and was just wondering if anyone had any white UTR's that they could pass along that offer reasonable prices, it would be ideal if they were the type open to negotiating, my funds are limited right now so anybody over 100 would be a no go for me. I mostly have been on BP finding girls with 40 or 50 quickie specials but can't find one white provider offering the same thing that looks halfway decent (yes I know pickings will be slim at those prices but I should be able to find at least one right) If anyone has info on girls they haven't seen in a while or just don't mind passing along their info I'd appreciate it.

[Mongeroose]

You could try Linda / Elle in Norfolk. She doesn't advertise on BP or CL but posts on 757 reviews. Her services are in your prince range. She's late 40s, white, ok body for her age. E-mail is angelin8864@yahoo.com, no phone (which can be a pain). I'm not sure if she is taking new clients.


Haven't had a white woman in a while and was just wondering if anyone had any white UTR's that they could pass along that offer reasonable prices, it would be ideal if they were the type open to negotiating, my funds are limited right now so anybody over 100 would be a no go for me. I mostly have been on BP finding girls with 40 or 50 quickie specials but can't find one white provider offering the same thing that looks halfway decent (yes I know pickings will be slim at those prices but I should be able to find at least one right) If anyone has info on girls they haven't seen in a while or just don't mind passing along their info I'd appreciate it.

[Richmond Mas]

Recently, I was in Walmart again and saw this 19 year old young beauty. Damn she is so fine and hot, I had to follow her around like a stalker. I finally started up a conversation with her and she was ok with my age being older and no too good looking. I got her digit at the end, and she said I could call her.

She has 2 kids and no job. Did not mention she needs money, but lives in a trailer. She is not the trailer park type. She told me her husband beat her up so badly she finally left him. That's why she is in a trailer now. She married her since she was 16.

It seems she needs cash somewhat. I was thinking she must have known what I am after after all I am older than her father, and niot the best looking guy in Wal-mart that day. When she agrees to give the digit. My question is what should I do now? See we really don't have much in common. I am after one thing, but I don't know what she is after.

Should I visit her at her trailer or just ask her out for a date? Hell I am a bit too old for dating that's why I just hire escort and have a good time, but this url girl stuff is very different for me. I do like the fact this this young beauty would even consider ok for me to call her. Wonder what the deal is? I can use some advice from the expert panel.

[OdedIsHere]

Recently, I was in Walmart again and saw this 19 year old young beauty. Damn she is so fine and hot, I had to follow her around like a stalker. I finally started up a conversation with her and she was ok with my age being older and no too good looking. I got her digit at the end, and she said I could call her.

She has 2 kids and no job. Did not mention she needs money, but lives in a trailer. She is not the trailer park type. She told me her husband beat her up so badly she finally left him. That's why she is in a trailer now. She married her since she was 16.

It seems she needs cash somewhat. I was thinking she must have known what I am after after all I am older than her father, and niot the best looking guy in Wal-mart that day. When she agrees to give the digit. My question is what should I do now? See we really don't have much in common. I am after one thing, but I don't know what she is after.

Should I visit her at her trailer or just ask her out for a date? Hell I am a bit too old for dating that's why I just hire escort and have a good time, but this url girl stuff is very different for me. I do like the fact this this young beauty would even consider ok for me to call her. Wonder what the deal is? I can use some advice from the expert panel.I would simply call her up and see when see was interested in spending time with. She might be the type to thinking she will seduce you into helping her out, just make sure you get your money's worth. If she seems to be leading you on waiting for a payout then I would call her on it. That's my $0. 02.

[Richmond Mas]

I would simply call her up and see when see was interested in spending time with. She might be the type to thinking she will seduce you into helping her out, just make sure you get your money's worth. If she seems to be leading you on waiting for a payout then I would call her on it. That's my $0. 02.Another situation happened to me. This beautiful spinner approached me and told me she has no money to repair this car. The total cost to repair is 225. 00. I said that's no problem, I will pay that, but you can pay me in a different way. She said sure. So, the car was in the shop for 5 days, and I loan her one of my 06 Toyota Scion for the 5 days. So, I told her that she can pay me by taking care of my needs. She said she would.

Well, on day 2 I txted her and ask for a met. She siad her family is coming over so she has to spend time with them and she will hit me up next week for sure. Being a gentleman, I said ok. Came Monday, her car was ready and I paid for the car and I said I will drive it to her to exchange for my car. She said she would bring it to me because it is not fair for me to do all those. I had someone detailed the car and put a full tank of gas for her. Well it was another 100. 00.

I sent my employees out, so I was hoping that we can spend a little time together in the office. She came and was crying said she has to leave at once and she has no money to pay a bill. I ask how much, she said 50. 00. I gave her 50 again, she promised to take care of my needs the next few days but she must go now.

Here I am out almost 3. 75 from my pocket and still haven't got a kiss out of this fool. I called her again, she said she has no time and will do it soon. She also said she cannot talk about this kind of stuff over the phone because bf might over heard, and to wait till she calls me.

Been one week and still no call.

[Scorpio22]

Another situation happened to me. This beautiful spinner approached me and told me she has no money to repair this car. The total cost to repair is 225. 00. I said that's no problem, I will pay that, but you can pay me in a different way. She said sure. So, the car was in the shop for 5 days, and I loan her one of my 06 Toyota Scion for the 5 days. So, I told her that she can pay me by taking care of my needs. She said she would.

Well, on day 2 I txted her and ask for a met. She siad her family is coming over so she has to spend time with them and she will hit me up next week for sure. Being a gentleman, I said ok. Came Monday, her car was ready and I paid for the car and I said I will drive it to her to exchange for my car. She said she would bring it to me because it is not fair for me to do all those. I had someone detailed the car and put a full tank of gas for her. Well it was another 100. 00.

I sent my employees out, so I was hoping that we can spend a little time together in the office. She came and was crying said she has to leave at once and she has no money to pay a bill. I ask how much, she said 50. 00. I gave her 50 again, she promised to take care of my needs the next few days but she must go now.

Here I am out almost 3. 75 from my pocket and still haven't got a kiss out of this fool. I called her again, she said she has no time and will do it soon. She also said she cannot talk about this kind of stuff over the phone because bf might over heard, and to wait till she calls me.

Been one week and still no call.Dude she is taking you for everything you got she put you in the trick bag and is taking you for everything you got how can you not see this? Don't ever go to this extent with a girl your not already fucking and even if you were I wouldn't even entertain the thought unless I'd been fucking her for years! Always I repeat ALWAYS make sure when come up off some money that your getting what YOU want in return.

If she needs money that day those legs better be spreading the same day. This girl has no respect for you and thinks of you as a sucker to be giving her money and loaning your car at that! I would be doing the same thing as well, that's stuff you do for your wife not a complete stranger that has no significance other than a fuck buddy. You've got to be firm with these girls, it's ok to be nice to them but be firm in what you want from them and make sure they fulfill their end of the bargain. Don't be anyone's fool when it comes to your hard earned money always look out for yourself first in this game.

[Richmond Mas]

If she needs money that day those legs better be spreading the same day. This girl has no respect for you and thinks of you as a sucker to be giving her money and loaning your car at that! I would be doing the same thing as well, that's stuff you do for your wife not a complete stranger that has no significance other than a fuck buddy. You've got to be firm with these girls, it's ok to be nice to them but be firm in what you want from them and make sure they fulfill their end of the bargain. Don't be anyone's fool when it comes to your hard earned money always look out for yourself first in this game.Damn, I feel like a sucker. With escort it is easy. You pay and you get lay most of the time. With this UTR, in my case, didn't get any and paid for the stuff.

You are right, have to be firm. Do for me now and you get the $$ is the new me. You know 3 to 4 bills is no big deal to me, but being a sucker is. Now the fool said don't txt or call her because her BF might find out.

Moving on to the new girl who might be willing to meet or may be I should stay with the escort game. At least you know you get what you pay for. Sshit for 3.75, I could have got a nice looking spinner for the matter. These UTR girls seems to develop skills to take you out fast.

[WhiteFblk7411]

Drop her like a bad habit, she sounds like a oxygen thief. Best of luck in your future endeavors.


Damn, I feel like a sucker. With escort it is easy. You pay and you get lay most of the time. With this UTR, in my case, didn't get any and paid for the stuff.

You are right, have to be firm. Do for me now and you get the $$ is the new me. You know 3 to 4 bills is no big deal to me, but being a sucker is. Now the fool said don't txt or call her because her BF might find out.

Moving on to the new girl who might be willing to meet or may be I should stay with the escort game. At least you know you get what you pay for. Sshit for 3. 75, I could have got a nice looking spinner for the matter. These UTR girls seems to develop skills to take you out fast.

[FreeFallin]

Had a dream thanks to Richmond Mas about a 23 young lady with the sweetest pinkest body I have ever seen. $$.5 but the true GFE was worth it. In my dream I was the one that had to call time there was no clock to me seen, I will give more details via PM. She came to my hotel dressed towards the hippy side and drew little attention but once in the room I was hooked. Very low volume but the skills and tight body are out of this world. In a further dream I get a text message with a new number and she let me know that I could dream this weekend in the beach, I am leaving town late this afternoon and told her that I would see if someone wants to have the same dream here and she said sure. PM me to share, IF you are less then a SM unless we have shared info don't ask, you must have prior postings that are helpfull. To the gentleman from VB, you should really try this dream and am happy to share thanks to angie. YMMV but I am still charged up from my visit.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Recently, I was in Walmart again and saw this 19 year old young beauty. Damn she is so fine and hot, I had to follow her around like a stalker. I finally started up a conversation with her and she was ok with my age being older and no too good looking. I got her digit at the end, and she said I could call her.

She has 2 kids and no job. Did not mention she needs money, but lives in a trailer. She is not the trailer park type. She told me her husband beat her up so badly she finally left him. That's why she is in a trailer now. She married her since she was 16.

It seems she needs cash somewhat. I was thinking she must have known what I am after after all I am older than her father, and niot the best looking guy in Wal-mart that day. When she agrees to give the digit. My question is what should I do now? See we really don't have much in common. I am after one thing, but I don't know what she is after.

Should I visit her at her trailer or just ask her out for a date? Hell I am a bit too old for dating that's why I just hire escort and have a good time, but this url girl stuff is very different for me. I do like the fact this this young beauty would even consider ok for me to call her. Wonder what the deal is? I can use some advice from the expert panel.I too have had much success in Wallyworld.

First, she obviously didn't give you her number because she is attracted to you or wants to go on a date. She figures that you might be willing to help her out.

So, what I would do is text her and just ask her how she is doing. She will then tell you what her problems (most likely financial) are and then you can offer your help. I would NOT do anything at her trailer. Could be subject to a scam and just way too many prying eyes in trailer parks. Once she accepts your offer to help her I would just straight out ask her what she will do for you. She might very well tell you to f-off at that point. But then again she might not. If she is down, I would then suggest she get a babysitter that you will pay for then pick her up and take her to a notel or other private place. That way you control the time.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Damn, I feel like a sucker. With escort it is easy. You pay and you get lay most of the time. With this UTR, in my case, didn't get any and paid for the stuff.

You are right, have to be firm. Do for me now and you get the $$ is the new me. You know 3 to 4 bills is no big deal to me, but being a sucker is. Now the fool said don't txt or call her because her BF might find out.

Moving on to the new girl who might be willing to meet or may be I should stay with the escort game. At least you know you get what you pay for. Sshit for 3. 75, I could have got a nice looking spinner for the matter. These UTR girls seems to develop skills to take you out fast.I don't understand this at all. She blew you off for 5 days and you STILL paid for her car AND let her have it before she gave up anything to you at all? I would have got 2 visits with her at least over this time frame. Don't blame the ladies. If you let them take you. They will take you! You should have told her that her car was ready but you were not paying the bill until she gave you what you wanted. And if she didn't just walk away from the situation. You should have had her pick you up in your car and then if she didn't give it up just drive her to the repair shop and drop her ass off.

This is the same as paying an escort up front. Sure some of the well reviewed ones are probably safe to give the money up front too, but most of them won't take it up front. Like anyone I got burned by a lady (luckily it was only 50) , but as I watched her tear ass across the hotel parking lot like a junk yard dog was chasing her I vowed never again. Don't ever, EVER give any type lady the $ upfront.

I just returned from a trip to Vegas and a beautiful young 21 year old coed came to see me and she wanted the $ upfront even after I told her 3 times prior to her coming to see me. I told her that wasn't going to happen and she left. She changed her mind and came back and we had an awesome time but I am sure if I had give her the $ upfront she would have at the very least changed the parameters that we agreed on or might have just left.

[Richmond Mas]

I too have had much success in Wallyworld.

First, she obviously didn't give you her number because she is attracted to you or wants to go on a date. She figures that you might be willing to help her out.

So, what I would do is text her and just ask her how she is doing. She will then tell you what her problems (most likely financial) are and then you can offer your help. I would NOT do anything at her trailer. Could be subject to a scam and just way too many prying eyes in trailer parks. Once she accepts your offer to help her I would just straight out ask her what she will do for you. She might very well tell you to f-off at that point. But then again she might not. If she is down, I would then suggest she get a babysitter that you will pay for then pick her up and take her to a notel or other private place. That way you control the time.I like this approach. Thanks

[WhiteFblk7411]

I met a young girl off CL about a month ago. She said she was needing some help so what could I do. I have seen this girl 4 times and it gets better ever time. She is Black 23yrs. 5'7" 130 A cup. So if you like a lot of meat she is not for you but I love them this way. So starting off she just needed help, but now she is asking for other kinds of help. She is looking for a teacher to teach her things to use with her boyfriend etc. Each time I see her its. 6 no big deal there but she is wanting to explore sexually. She is into forced oral and me taking control in the bedroom. She loves to put on mascara and then wants to tear up so she can see it run all down her face. She also loves to stuff her throat. She loves her head forced down until she can't breath. I love it, I guess my question to all of you is. Have you experienced this type of behavior before from a girl like this. She told me she has a boyfriend and would like for him to do this stuff to her but he won't do it, (glad I can help her out).

I will see if I can get some photos. And also I am moving in 4 months she might need a teacher after I move if she is looking still I will post again if your interested in teaching PM me and we can try to set something up.

[WhiteFblk7411]

I have a baby here that needs some help. If you like her photos let me know I will pm you her email.

[Richmond Mas]

I too have had much success in Wallyworld.

First, she obviously didn't give you her number because she is attracted to you or wants to go on a date. She figures that you might be willing to help her out.

So, what I would do is text her and just ask her how she is doing. She will then tell you what her problems (most likely financial) are and then you can offer your help. I would NOT do anything at her trailer. Could be subject to a scam and just way too many prying eyes in trailer parks. Once she accepts your offer to help her I would just straight out ask her what she will do for you. She might very well tell you to f-off at that point. But then again she might not. If she is down, I would then suggest she get a babysitter that you will pay for then pick her up and take her to a notel or other private place. That way you control the time.Strange thing is that, she will txt back and ask how I am doing so on and so forth. I told her thinking about her, and ask if she needs anything since she is not working now. She said "O no thank you" That's it. This happened twice. I am still txting, but is not going anywhere. Basically, I am running out of things to say.

She got to know what I wanted and she respond indicated she is still interested somewhat. Any psychologist out there can figure this out?

[OdedIsHere]

Strange thing is that, she will txt back and ask how I am doing so on and so forth. I told her thinking about her, and ask if she needs anything since she is not working now. She said "O no thank you" That's it. This happened twice. I am still txting, but is not going anywhere. Basically, I am running out of things to say.

She got to know what I wanted and she respond indicated she is still interested somewhat. Any psychologist out there can figure this out?Don't ask her if she needs help, you're putting her on the spot and she chickens out. Pick her up, make the normal moves as if she is any other girl and help her out in return without her asking. I believe she wants to do the deed but is scared to say the words out of some moral dilemma telling her it isn't right. Some girls will come out and say they need the cash, others are looking to earn it without asking. You must remember different people act differently. Start with just asking when she is coming out to play. And don't mention you're thinking of her all the time, makes you seem clingy, attached, and possibly crazy psycho be / f type. Keep it like you're interested but not infatuated.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Don't ask her if she needs help, you're putting her on the spot and she chickens out. Pick her up, make the normal moves as if she is any other girl and help her out in return without her asking. I believe she wants to do the deed but is scared to say the words out of some moral dilemma telling her it isn't right. Some girls will come out and say they need the cash, others are looking to earn it without asking. You must remember different people act differently. Start with just asking when she is coming out to play. And don't mention you're thinking of her all the time, makes you seem clingy, attached, and possibly crazy psycho be / f type. Keep it like you're interested but not infatuated.I respect Oded's opinion on this but I disagree with his suggestion. Again she gave you her number for a reason and I still say that reason is she needs $ help. I do agree with Oded that she obviously is not ready yet, but she is keeping in touch with you until she is ready or gets in a real jam.

Oded is probably a lot more patient then I am but I would ask her straight up what she needs then tell her I can help her out. If it does scare her away then you probably saved alot of time as she would probably chicken out at some point down the road anyway. This way you cut her loose and find another one ready to go. Be nice to her when you move on as she will still have your number and you might get a text from her in a few days, weeks or even months later when she is ready.

Picking her up and spending more money on her when she hasn't committed to anything will be a good waste of time, $ and fuel.

[Roush 427]

I respect Oded's opinion on this but I disagree with his suggestion. Again she gave you her number for a reason and I still say that reason is she needs $ help. I do agree with Oded that she obviously is not ready yet, but she is keeping in touch with you until she is ready or gets in a real jam.

Oded is probably a lot more patient then I am but I would ask her straight up what she needs then tell her I can help her out. If it does scare her away then you probably saved alot of time as she would probably chicken out at some point down the road anyway. This way you cut her loose and find another one ready to go. Be nice to her when you move on as she will still have your number and you might get a text from her in a few days, weeks or even months later when she is ready.

Picking her up and spending more money on her when she hasn't committed to anything will be a good waste of time, $ and fuel.Dr phil you could make millions, utr specialist we both know you are my friend enjoy, just sayin Roush

[Richmond Mas]

I respect Oded's opinion on this but I disagree with his suggestion. Again she gave you her number for a reason and I still say that reason is she needs $ help. I do agree with Oded that she obviously is not ready yet, but she is keeping in touch with you until she is ready or gets in a real jam.

Oded is probably a lot more patient then I am but I would ask her straight up what she needs then tell her I can help her out. If it does scare her away then you probably saved alot of time as she would probably chicken out at some point down the road anyway. This way you cut her loose and find another one ready to go. Be nice to her when you move on as she will still have your number and you might get a text from her in a few days, weeks or even months later when she is ready.

Picking her up and spending more money on her when she hasn't committed to anything will be a good waste of time, $ and fuel.I have to agree with your advice. I think she wants to, but doesn't know how to approach. Just like I am. When I txted her, if she is not interested, she wouldn't have txted back. I have asked her 3 times from different occasions if she needs anything. Her answers were always no.

She told me she just got a mattress and she just put it on the floor. I told her I can get her a new bed to go along with it. She siad,"oh no, thank you." I didn't know what to say. Hell I can pay $$ and pop a fairly decent hooker, but this utr girls are just tough to deal with.

Told me all these sad story, but when you offer to help she said no. Figure that. I just stay in touch, and hopefully one day she will come around.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Dr phil you could make millions, utr specialist we both know you are my friend enjoy, just sayin RoushWell, I do have a degree in Sociology! LOL!

How have the MB Adult Video stores been treating you these days Mr. Balls of Steel?

[Vbgent4u2c]

I have to agree with your advice. I think she wants to, but doesn't know how to approach. Just like I am. When I txted her, if she is not interested, she wouldn't have txted back. I have asked her 3 times from different occasions if she needs anything. Her answers were always no.

She told me she just got a mattress and she just put it on the floor. I told her I can get her a new bed to go along with it. She siad,"oh no, thank you." I didn't know what to say. Hell I can pay $$ and pop a fairly decent hooker, but this utr girls are just tough to deal with.

Told me all these sad story, but when you offer to help she said no. Figure that. I just stay in touch, and hopefully one day she will come around.Move on, but keep in touch with her. Most are not that difficult. She just isn't completely motivated yet. My guess is she will be in touch one day. Until then there are plenty more out there that are much more motivated!

[Roush 427]

Well, I do have a degree in Sociology! LOL!

How have the MB Adult Video stores been treating you these days Mr. Balls of Steel?It was a degree in pussy hound, LOL the video stores are waiting on you the gals are ready come on down, just sayin Roush

[OldPapa]

Move on, but keep in touch with her. Most are not that difficult. She just isn't completely motivated yet. My guess is she will be in touch one day. Until then there are plenty more out there that are much more motivated!I agree. I had this UTR that moved out of the neighborhood months back and I used to ask her if she needed anything. The answer was no. Every now and again she would stop by to pick out a movie for her kids or ask a question. Not too much more. I asked her if she needed anything for her apartment back in December when she moved. She said no so I pretty much moved on but the last thing I said to her was "if you need anything just give me a ring" and left it at that. Low and behold last week she called and asked for $ so she could pay her light bill. I reminded her what I told her a month or so back. She was so happy. I told her I will bring it by when the kids were in school. She didn't mind. I went over early in the AM and waited for the kids to hop the bus. I knocked on the door and she still in the robe. Nipples, nipples, nipples. I gave her the $ but put an extra .5 on top as icing on the cake. She got so excited and gave me hug. I instantly "accidentally" rubbed down and slid my hand across the butt to get a reaction and she started kissing. I was in and had her pretty much all morning. I even called in and said I was handling a family matter. After that day I haven't heard from her since, but before I left I said,"if you need anything just give me a shout".

[Richmond Mas]

I agree. I had this UTR that moved out of the neighborhood months back and I used to ask her if she needed anything. The answer was no. Every now and again she would stop by to pick out a movie for her kids or ask a question. Not too much more. I asked her if she needed anything for her apartment back in December when she moved. She said no so I pretty much moved on but the last thing I said to her was "if you need anything just give me a ring" and left it at that. Low and behold last week she called and asked for $ so she could pay her light bill. I reminded her what I told her a month or so back. She was so happy. I told her I will bring it by when the kids were in school. She didn't mind. I went over early in the AM and waited for the kids to hop the bus. I knocked on the door and she still in the robe. Nipples, nipples, nipples. I gave her the $ but put an extra .5 on top as icing on the cake. She got so excited and gave me hug. I instantly "accidentally" rubbed down and slid my hand across the butt to get a reaction and she started kissing. I was in and had her pretty much all morning. I even called in and said I was handling a family matter. After that day I haven't heard from her since, but before I left I said,"if you need anything just give me a shout".This seems like what I am experiencing. I will txt her tomorrow and leave it at that. Got to move on.

[WhiteFblk7411]

I have another one looking for a daddy or two. Here is a photo if you want contact info pm me.

[WhiteFblk7411]

This young lady wants to do Dom type of visits she is not Sub so if you like that pm me and I will forward contact information. Make sure you let me know what number she is.

[WhiteFblk7411]

I have another young woman needing some help. She is in NN and can host.

[Vbgent4u2c]

I'm taking a wild guess that these women are not UTR ladies.

And what happened to #16? LOL!

[JustLoookin2]

I'm taking a wild guess that these women are not UTR ladies.

And what happened to #16? LOL!Must be keeping that one for himself. LOL

[WhiteFblk7411]

LOL 16 has a lot of requirements I met her yesterday, I will post soon with info.


Must be keeping that one for himself. LOL

[Richmond Mas]

Not much, but it's a start. Sitting at work and this girl came up wanted something from me. I said it will cost me $35 + time. She said she has no money, so I offer a kiss for the work.

I tell her I have to get the kiss first and it's not going to be a tap. I want tongue and all. She was shy, but I pull her up to me and begin to move my tongue into her. She pushes me away, but I said, for $35, it better be more than that. I move and kiss her again, so this time she allows longer and I roam her body which she did not protest. I pulled away as she was a bit apprehensive in the open view. No one in sign. I told her to do it again. She said she didn't know I have to feel up. So I kiss her again and this time I touch the bird outside. She did not move, so I said ok.

It was only a couple of minutes, but well worth the work I did for her.

I ask her if she needs any money since she cannot even pay the $35. She said she needs $300 for a fine. I said I have it, but it will be $100 each time. She was shy and she said OK.

When she left I told her when it comes time to pay the fine, and she has no money. She knows who to call. She said OK.

I got her number, but I will wait for her to call. She told me she has a BF and she will have to tell him she is cleaning for me if she comes. I said go right ahead. NIce looking spinner about 35. I like them younger, but for a UTR neophyte, I will take whatever I can.

[Richmond Mas]

LOL 16 has a lot of requirements I met her yesterday, I will post soon with info.What type of requirements does she needs?

[WhiteFblk7411]

Gentlemen,

I have SB #16 she is in need, but she is looking for someone with Deep Pockets. She can host in a very safe location. I have been to her home and she has one female roommate. Speaking of which she is Bi and loves women as well as men. She is a pleaser and wants to make you cum she loves making men cum. She is willing to host you 2-3 times a week and in return she is asking for an allowance of 500 on the 1st and 15th of every month. Gentlemen this is the real deal she is smoking hot she is 5'3' about 115-130 very firm body. No stretch marks or anything else on her skin. She does modeling on the side so she is very pretty. Here is one of her photos. I have contact information if you can provide the financial support she is asking. She will come down a little but not that much. So I am asking if you can support this pm me if its too rich for you I understand or I would have keep her for myself but I don't have that kind of money either. Ok guys let me know.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Sounds great. Bet she will be in touch. Congrats. Just remember no $ until you get what you want.

Alot of ladies seem to use that "cleaning" excuse. Long time ago I had a gorgeous, but very inexperienced 19 yr old UTR that would text me "Do you need your office cleaned this week?" when she wanted to come see me. She never cleaned anything except my knob. Since then several have used that excuse when talking to their SO's.


Not much, but it's a start. Sitting at work and this girl came up wanted something from me. I said it will cost me $35 + time. She said she has no money, so I offer a kiss for the work.

I tell her I have to get the kiss first and it's not going to be a tap. I want tongue and all. She was shy, but I pull her up to me and begin to move my tongue into her. She pushes me away, but I said, for $35, it better be more than that. I move and kiss her again, so this time she allows longer and I roam her body which she did not protest. I pulled away as she was a bit apprehensive in the open view. No one in sign. I told her to do it again. She said she didn't know I have to feel up. So I kiss her again and this time I touch the bird outside. She did not move, so I said ok.

It was only a couple of minutes, but well worth the work I did for her.

I ask her if she needs any money since she cannot even pay the $35. She said she needs $300 for a fine. I said I have it, but it will be $100 each time. She was shy and she said OK.

When she left I told her when it comes time to pay the fine, and she has no money. She knows who to call. She said OK.

I got her number, but I will wait for her to call. She told me she has a BF and she will have to tell him she is cleaning for me if she comes. I said go right ahead. NIce looking spinner about 35. I like them younger, but for a UTR neophyte, I will take whatever I can.

[WhiteFblk7411]

All of these girls have requested sugar daddys but since there is no SD section this was closest to that.


I'm taking a wild guess that these women are not UTR ladies.

And what happened to #16? LOL!

[Richmond Mas]

Sounds great. Bet she will be in touch. Congrats. Just remember no $ until you get what you want.

Alot of ladies seem to use that "cleaning" excuse. Long time ago I had a gorgeous, but very inexperienced 19 yr old UTR that would text me "Do you need your office cleaned this week?" when she wanted to come see me. She never cleaned anything except my knob. Since then several have used that excuse when talking to their SO's.I was cleaned from my last UTR baby. Got me for $$$, but not even a kiss on the lips, so I wised up and want things upfront first.

Last week met up with one AA girl. Asked to meet up, but I was late so she left and then she call again wanting to meet. I was late again. She left. She asked for money to be wired to her to Walmart. I said no deal. I need to give her the money in person and I want a BJ before I will release the money. She was mad and said if I do not wrire the money, she will never see me again. I said OK.

Moving on to more deals, I think they are all around just need to look and be firm of what you wanted.

[WhiteFblk7411]

All this is my friend that likes deep throat and needs some friends. Please if you want her info pm me.

[Viktor Vaughn]

Guess who's back.

I've got a few stories to tell from my short time in exile, one happend not to long ago while I was helping a friend tell a female who was tasked with convincing a young woman to cease swatting at his relatives home while said relative was away. This late 20'a blond had a slight ghetto disposition but a really nice behind. I stood by while they talked of how she really had no where to go with her clan. My villainous heart saw this as an opportunity & after dropping my friend off I doubled back to properly introduce myself, I told her that I was willing to help her, help me. She surprised me by saying she hadn't had to do this in a few years & I knew right then she was it. For a sample, I took her in an empty room and preview the goods from the backside for a short time until I exploded with delight. She's a 4 on the scale, body is just above slim & her place isn't the best set up, but you can negotiate a decent time. I didn't partake in her singing skills not do I believe her menu to be grand, but she's UTR & doesn't see anyone at the moment and needs help to keep the lights on. Oh & she said most men don't last 5 min and while she's advertising, I must say it truly is a snug fit. Seniors only, PM me for digits.

Regards,

Your favorite Villains, favorite Villain

[Tiki80]

Guess who's back.

I've got a few stories to tell from my short time in exile, one happend not to long ago while I was helping a friend tell a female who was tasked with convincing a young woman to cease swatting at his relatives home while said relative was away. This late 20'a blond had a slight ghetto disposition but a really nice behind. I stood by while they talked of how she really had no where to go with her clan. My villainous heart saw this as an opportunity & after dropping my friend off I doubled back to properly introduce myself, I told her that I was willing to help her, help me. She surprised me by saying she hadn't had to do this in a few years & I knew right then she was it. For a sample, I took her in an empty room and preview the goods from the backside for a short time until I exploded with delight. She's a 4 on the scale, body is just above slim & her place isn't the best set up, but you can negotiate a decent time. I didn't partake in her singing skills not do I believe her menu to be grand, but she's UTR & doesn't see anyone at the moment and needs help to keep the lights on. Oh & she said most men don't last 5 min and while she's advertising, I must say it truly is a snug fit. Seniors only, PM me for digits.

Regards,

Your favorite Villains, favorite VillainGood to see you back. It's been kind of boring around here.

[OldPapa]

Guess who's back.

I've got a few stories to tell from my short time in exile, one happend not to long ago while I was helping a friend tell a female who was tasked with convincing a young woman to cease swatting at his relatives home while said relative was away. This late 20'a blond had a slight ghetto disposition but a really nice behind. I stood by while they talked of how she really had no where to go with her clan. My villainous heart saw this as an opportunity & after dropping my friend off I doubled back to properly introduce myself, I told her that I was willing to help her, help me. She surprised me by saying she hadn't had to do this in a few years & I knew right then she was it. For a sample, I took her in an empty room and preview the goods from the backside for a short time until I exploded with delight. She's a 4 on the scale, body is just above slim & her place isn't the best set up, but you can negotiate a decent time. I didn't partake in her singing skills not do I believe her menu to be grand, but she's UTR & doesn't see anyone at the moment and needs help to keep the lights on. Oh & she said most men don't last 5 min and while she's advertising, I must say it truly is a snug fit. Seniors only, PM me for digits.

Regards,

Your favorite Villains, favorite VillainGood to see you back Mad! Hadn't been the same without ya.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Hit the jackpot. 22 year old college girl with a cheerleader body that just recently broke up with her BF. Found her on FB and sent her a message offering assistance when she was complaining about her phone being shut off. Went back and forth with messages for 3 days as her initial requirement was way too high, but we reached a mutually beneficial agreement as she really wanted her phone back on.

Took a few weeks but this young lady is beautiful, talented and one of the tightest ever.

They are out there. Just sometimes takes awhile.

When the time is right I will ask her if she is open to a select few of my friends!

[ZenExecutive]

Dude you need to write a book and sell your secrets! We all want some of your mojo!


Hit the jackpot. 22 year old college girl with a cheerleader body that just recently broke up with her BF. Found her on FB and sent her a message offering assistance when she was complaining about her phone being shut off. Went back and forth with messages for 3 days as her initial requirement was way too high, but we reached a mutually beneficial agreement as she really wanted her phone back on.

Took a few weeks but this young lady is beautiful, talented and one of the tightest ever.

They are out there. Just sometimes takes awhile.

When the time is right I will ask her if she is open to a select few of my friends!

[OldPapa]

Dude you need to write a book and sell your secrets! We all want some of your mojo!Wow, sir! How did the Facebook conversation get started. Please assist. You have a student her sitting at his desk with his notebook open ready to take notes! Awesome stuff guy!

[Vbgent4u2c]

Dude you need to write a book and sell your secrets! We all want some of your mojo!This one was just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. Plus many PM's on FB. She is not a cheerleader but definitely has the body of one. Again she has some significant $ issues so might be able to pass her info along at some point.

[Roush 427]

This one was just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. Plus many PM's on FB. She is not a cheerleader but definitely has the body of one. Again she has some significant $ issues so might be able to pass her info along at some point.Bring her with you when you come down and ill see if I can keep her occupied while you play, LOL just sayin Roush

[Viktor Vaughn]

Gents,

Since I've gotten back into our Game of Throes, I've just kind of ran into a good luck streak. Tonight after being stood up by courtney (that stories coming soon) I cruised over to P-Town to check the scene. I was checking out a social network I signed up for recently when I spotted a cute, young lady asking for help. Right away I sent her a friend request & let her know I was in the market to help her out. She replied with "How much you got?" after looking at her photos (there were more, but at the time of this writing, she made a new profile) I told her. 8. She directed me to a Extended Stay in Chesapeake & I made my way over. Once I arrived, I was greeted by a really nice looking, dark haired, young spinner around 5"7'. She said her name was Salina & she'd moved here recently from MIA to "Get away". The room was a mess and she explained that she'd been living out of this place with her two young sons & really had no funds, nor knew anyone in the area. Next I noticed the boys sleeping on the opposite bed & thought "Should I be doing this?" but I'm the Villain & that thought lasted less time than a 12 yr old boys first lay. We didn't waste much time, got confortable and I started feeling up on her slim, smooth body. She's dressed in a black nightgown & nothing else, her legs are long and her waist felt like they were made to be handles just for my hands. Her body is impressive to say the least, she's a 6 on the looks scale & she gets a bonus point for slapping the DFK on a villain without asking. She's into this, she grabs King Geedorah & asks me if I'm DF, I reply the affirmative & add that I'm freshly showered. She kisses the King, moans & says "I can tell" then proceeds to handle a pretty decent BBBJ until I can'twait to throw the King in her Dungeon. She wasn't prepaid with the proper tools but I always am, BYOC on this one gents. I dash for a little DATY but she rejects it to my dismay, no matter, I've got designs on crushing this castle. We start in mish & I'm surprised at just how tight the fit is, I mean, it took me good minute of warming it up just to get my flow going, I'm filled with glee & she's filled with me. I take her long legs and throw them over my shoulders, lift her well shaped behind with my hands and go to work like a roughneck. She's moaning and grabbing for me to kiss her & whispering how good it feels, I'm all in now & the surprise on her face tells me she hasn't run into many villains yet. I want to switch it up, but gents this is too good. After a good 20 minutes of well paced thrashing (I'm trying to get my money's worth) I ask her where does she want me to put it in which she replies in a half laughing, half moaning "Anywhere you want baby" My first thought was that phrase is my ATF Kiki's & my second thought was "Damn, that's it for me" I could no longer take it and glazed her butt cheeks with King Geedorah's hot wax. I've asked her if I can share her number with a few of my friends so trusted SM only (and I mean this) PM me for digits.

"It's V Vaughn not to be confused with V la viper"


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[Viktor Vaughn]

Not much, but it's a start. Sitting at work and this girl came up wanted something from me. I said it will cost me $35 + time. She said she has no money, so I offer a kiss for the work.

*Stuff in the middle*

I got her number, but I will wait for her to call. She told me she has a BF and she will have to tell him she is cleaning for me if she comes. I said go right ahead. NIce looking spinner about 35. I like them younger, but for a UTR neophyte, I will take whatever I can.I'm glad this worked out for you RM. 80% of game is mental. I always joke to friends that I could be 400 pounds & still pull a pretty waitress at an all you can eat buffet. May I suggest some reading.

http://www.amazon.com/Bang-More-Lays-60-Days/dp/1438214235

Good techniques on building the skills you need to connect with all women, but really can be applied to UTR's in such a way if you're slightly nervous talking to the fairer sex. They have a corresponding site if you google Roosh V.

Just remember, even whales have barnacles hanging around.

VV

[Viktor Vaughn]

VBGent4U2C.

Clear your inbox & villainy arrives.

[LexintonLuther]

Sir Viktor,

I happen across your tales of fiction mate, and I am very impressed with your style of story telling. I want to express a bit of thanks for mentioning the All American city (Fayetteville, NC) as a good board to read. I very much enjoyed your work and look forward to hear more tales of action and adventure from a villains favorite villain.

Lex

[Viktor Vaughn]

Sir Viktor,

I happen across your tales of fiction mate, and I am very impressed with your style of story telling. I want to express a bit of thanks for mentioning the All American city (Fayetteville, NC) as a good board to read. I very much enjoyed your work and look forward to hear more tales of action and adventure from a villains favorite villain.

LexYour words honor me Sir, Having traveled to to All American city often, I noticed just how active the scene is there & how many providers there are who travel through. I thought about how a town such as Fayette-Nam could inspire such variety. While I realize the economic situations differ between the two areas, Along with what one provider I contacted about visiting our area said "I don't want to spend time in Jail with no bond", I also know that the monger community seems stronger there & I believe that has to be behind the difference in targets for us to choose from. I've noticed areas with high traffic on these boards have shepherds, Mongers who inspire other mongers to go out and search for gems & return to report to the community. I myself have been inspired by reading your excellent tales, Bunker Buster in N. VA, Nite-timer in Baltimore, CookyJar in Philly, Badly Cruiser in LA and many other excellent members who inspire their local boards to higher levels of infamy. I'll continue to read your fictional tales with delight until I have the chance to vist the All American city again, Sir Lex. My first stop will probably be to visit the bird Pa'Mie, had a wonderful time with her!

VV

[Viktor Vaughn]

Gents,

The young lady I spoke of earlier has told me that she requires assistance tonight to pay her extended room rates. For tonight only I've been asked to relax my SM requirement. Even still I don't feel comfortable giving her information out to just anyone, so please at least be a contributing member of our community before you PM me.

"V brings the beef like a trucker to Fuddrucker"

[LexintonLuther]

Your words honor me Sir, Having traveled to to All American city often, I noticed just how active the scene is there & how many providers there are who travel through. I thought about how a town such as Fayette-Nam could inspire such variety. While I realize the economic situations differ between the two areas, Along with what one provider I contacted about visiting our area said "I don't want to spend time in Jail with no bond", I also know that the monger community seems stronger there & I believe that has to be behind the difference in targets for us to choose from. I've noticed areas with high traffic on these boards have shepherds, Mongers who inspire other mongers to go out and search for gems & return to report to the community. I myself have been inspired by reading your excellent tales, Bunker Buster in N. VA, Nite-timer in Baltimore, CookyJar in Philly, Badly Cruiser in LA and many other excellent members who inspire their local boards to higher levels of infamy. I'll continue to read your fictional tales with delight until I have the chance to vist the All American city again, Sir Lex. My first stop will probably be to visit the bird Pa'Mie, had a wonderful time with her!

VVSir VV,

You Sir, make very valid points about our locations. I also was inspired by those same SM you spoke of, and I am only part of an amazing board. I hope all your visits to the All American city inspire you to write literary works of art. The bird Pa'mie, a true delight and one that I visit often but only wrote of once. Amazingly sexy and talented. Don't forget about my little city, and check on us often mate. Also I added a few pics of Pa'mie and her good mate for good measure.

Lex

[Just757]

Hi guys.

On rare occasions, I will see some females post on CL asking for help with the bills. I inquire as to how much they are asking and I get stuff like $300. I then counter offer with $100 and either never hear from them again or keep getting the "that's not enough." Any tips on convincing them to go lower? In my opinion it seems like a psychological barrier with these utr newbies. They tell themselves "If I get 300 to pay my bills, I'm not a working girl." But, if I wanted to shell out 300 bucks I would go to that one website with the expensive escorts.

[Redleg27]

I have had that response as well: either a high offer such as 300 or no more contact when you counter offer. But some will start haggling and you can get them to a reasonable figure. Keep plugging away 100 is a price point at which many of these ladies will want to meet for help.


Hi guys.

On rare occasions, I will see some females post on CL asking for help with the bills. I inquire as to how much they are asking and I get stuff like $300. I then counter offer with $100 and either never hear from them again or keep getting the "that's not enough." Any tips on convincing them to go lower? In my opinion it seems like a psychological barrier with these utr newbies. They tell themselves "If I get 300 to pay my bills, I'm not a working girl." But, if I wanted to shell out 300 bucks I would go to that one website with the expensive escorts.

[HiddenDesires]

I have a baby here that needs some help. If you like her photos let me know I will pm you her email.Nice body. Anymore Info? Any more pics you can post of her?

[Fireball25]

Ironically I was asked for 3 bills yesterday, but I will write down my overall experiences below with UTR / Sugarbabies;

1. CL- Earlier post, someone posted his words on CL. I took his lead and so far 3 UTR's, all AA ranging from 19-24. I've met two, just once because they were not my style. I did donate each 1 bill for the cause. The 3rd one is probably the hardest girl to pin down, literally. She is the youngest at 19, and its been a txt war for over a month. Little here and little there, why do I drag this on? Because she looks hot in the pics she sends me. She finally asked yesterday for 3 bills to help her rent and meet her last night at mid-night. Couldn't do it, so I'm still trying. Even now.

2. SD4ME- Found this topic on the Richmond boards, joined two weeks ago and you have to pay to join and a little extra for non-members to contact you and for you contact them. This site has proved pretty fruitful. I found a 45yr lady, yes not young I got it, but she is smoking. Looking to meet her two weeks from now in NC. In contact with a 18yr in VA beach. She is just a cutie. And in contact with a 39 yr and 24 yr (Norfolk and other from Richmond) all good looking and so far seem legit, but have not met them yet. All these girls are white for whatever reason, I do get some contact from AA, but nothing that catches my eye. Personally, this site has done me well depite paying a monthly fee. I will stop in a month if these leads provide to a permanent type deal.

But more scammers here than CL. Just use your common sense and don't violate the cardinal rules of meeting / helping distressed women over the net and you will be fine.

3- Walmart / Target / Tacobell or out in the real world- no dice here for me at least. I don't know how you guys do it.

[Redleg27]

There are already pictures posted. Call her she is the real deal. YMMV

Book with confidence.


Nice body. Anymore Info? Any more pics you can post of her?

[HiddenDesires]

There are already pictures posted. Call her she is the real deal. YMMV

Book with confidence.She has a nice body, Is she attractive? Where are the rest of her pictures? I only see one.

[Vbgent4u2c]

Wow, sir! How did the Facebook conversation get started. Please assist. You have a student her sitting at his desk with his notebook open ready to take notes! Awesome stuff guy!Not difficult but does take some time. Have to set up an account on FB and start adding friends. I did this by going to all the strip club pages and sent out requests to the dancers then checked their friends and any that looked like a possible I sent a request.

Most of them accepted the request right away. I still keep adding anything that looks good that FB recommends. I have 92 friends (all women) and have done something with about 16 of them!

From then on it is just waiting til one of them posts about $ problems. Send them a PM and offer to help. If they are receptive to discussing options I get their cell number from them and then it is only a matter of time.

Again. Takes some time but the rewards are well worth the efforts! Young, beautiful and amazing bodies. Plus most of them are surprisingly talented!

[OldPapa]

Not difficult but does take some time. Have to set up an account on FB and start adding friends. I did this by going to all the strip club pages and sent out requests to the dancers then checked their friends and any that looked like a possible I sent a request.

Most of them accepted the request right away. I still keep adding anything that looks good that FB recommends. I have 92 friends (all women) and have done something with about 16 of them!

From then on it is just waiting til one of them posts about $ problems. Send them a PM and offer to help. If they are receptive to discussing options I get their cell number from them and then it is only a matter of time.

Again. Takes some time but the rewards are well worth the efforts! Young, beautiful and amazing bodies. Plus most of them are surprisingly talented!You Sir are a giant among men! That is great advice!

Thanks

[Richmond Mas]

Not difficult but does take some time. Have to set up an account on FB and start adding friends. I did this by going to all the strip club pages and sent out requests to the dancers then checked their friends and any that looked like a possible I sent a request.

Most of them accepted the request right away. I still keep adding anything that looks good that FB recommends. I have 92 friends (all women) and have done something with about 16 of them!

From then on it is just waiting til one of them posts about $ problems. Send them a PM and offer to help. If they are receptive to discussing options I get their cell number from them and then it is only a matter of time.

Again. Takes some time but the rewards are well worth the efforts! Young, beautiful and amazing bodies. Plus most of them are surprisingly talented!You know I thought about that, and in one account I have all these young girls, but they just kept talking away. Right Models and strip club girls are the ones to go. I have hooked up with one model agency and bam, I have so many good looking common friends through that agency. You are the man. Damn hit 16 of them, thats a record. Da hom bre

[Vbgent4u2c]

You know I thought about that, and in one account I have all these young girls, but they just kept talking away. Right Models and strip club girls are the ones to go. I have hooked up with one model agency and bam, I have so many good looking common friends through that agency. You are the man. Damn hit 16 of them, thats a record. Da hom breI haven't had much success with the actual strippers. Had some fun with 4 of them but they want way too much $. Have a lot more success with their friend's friends, etc. I also will stress these relationships take some time.

Haven't hit all 16. I said I have "done stuff" with 16 of them. Actually only hit 14. One consisted only of me DATY on this luscious 20 year old 3 times but she wouldn't even touch me. Good thing is all it cost me was a pretty cheap dinner and an even cheaper bottle of wine. She wanted to get together again but I declined as one case of blue balls is painful enough.

Also had another absolutely beautiful 21 year old all set up after months of conversations. I mean had graphic text conversations, she sent me nude pics of her stunning body and the day before we were going to seal the deal some guy asks her to go steady! Waiting for her to text me that it is over and she is ready to meet. LOL!

[Gray Rider]

I haven't had much success with the actual strippers. Had some fun with 4 of them but they want way too much $. Have a lot more success with their friend's friends, etc. I also will stress these relationships take some time.

Haven't hit all 16. I said I have "done stuff" with 16 of them. Actually only hit 14. One consisted only of me DATY on this luscious 20 year old 3 times but she wouldn't even touch me. Good thing is all it cost me was a pretty cheap dinner and an even cheaper bottle of wine. She wanted to get together again but I declined as one case of blue balls is painful enough.

Also had another absolutely beautiful 21 year old all set up after months of conversations. I mean had graphic text conversations, she sent me nude pics of her stunning body and the day before we were going to seal the deal some guy asks her to go steady! Waiting for her to text me that it is over and she is ready to meet. LOL!Vbgent, If you grow tired of DATY with luscious 20 year olds, send them my way. I will be more than glad to help out, LOL. Thanks for posting the tips, great information!

GR

[Vbgent4u2c]

Vbgent, If you grow tired of DATY with luscious 20 year olds, send them my way. I will be more than glad to help out, LOL. Thanks for posting the tips, great information!

GROh I enjoyed the nectar of the gods thoroughly, but after the 3rd time my monster was looking for a little reciprocation and she wasn't ready for that. Made my monster very uncomfortable having to put him back in his cage.

I might try her again as she keeps asking if we can get together and this time I might just push on. Or in as the case may be.

If not I will gladly forward her number as I won't set a third meeting.

[Gray Rider]

Oh I enjoyed the nectar of the gods thoroughly, but after the 3rd time my monster was looking for a little reciprocation and she wasn't ready for that. Made my monster very uncomfortable having to put him back in his cage.

I might try her again as she keeps asking if we can get together and this time I might just push on. Or in as the case may be.

If not I will gladly forward her number as I won't set a third meeting.Sure would appreciate it. Would love to taste that nectar! I understand your point though, those monsters sure hate to go back in their cages.